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The fog of war has never been so dense, what with the years-long sustained psy-ops of the US Intel “Community” against the American people . . . the lawfare operations of the Democratic Party against innocent patriots. . . the homicidal depredations of the pharma-government complex . . . the Cultural Marxists’ weaponization of language against common sense and common decency . . . the Neocon warhawks’ serial failed crusades to control faraway lands of dubious national interest . . .and the relentless mendacity of the sell-out Big Media. . .
It’s a wonder that anybody might venture a coherent thought, or that such a thought might survive transmission from person to person intact, without a sadistic beat-down or a dishonest, tactical inversion of meaning along the way. A thought such as: the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel. This is now up for debate around the world, whereas it had been accepted as self-evident by many civilized states a few weeks ago.
The military pundit Scott Ritter acted out a spectacular mental melt-down on video the other day. Among the statements he made were: “We need the Israeli army to be destroyed, to suffer defeat” . . . “Israel is the greatest threat to peace in the world” . . . “Political Zionism is a rabid dog and must be killed” . . . “I’m glad Hamas is winning” . . .
It’s far from clear what Scott’s definition of Zionism is, but Dictionary.com says: “a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel and that now supports the state of Israel as a Jewish homeland.” That’s pretty standard across many dictionaries. So, is Scott Ritter calling for the cancellation of Israel? Sounds like it, a little bit. He’s not alone. That has been the dream of most of Islam in the region for seventy-five years. Now, a great multi-nation jihad rises to expel what the Iranians like to call “the Zionist Entity,” as if it were some scaley thing that slithered out of a UFO. Even the American Ivy League is rooting to drive Israel into the sea.
Among the reasons Scott Ritter reviles the Israelis is that they are too weak and incompetent to defend themselves. Their stand-by army of reservists, he says, are too soft and flabby to hump a standard-issue soldier’s kit into a war-zone — and Gaza is the worst sort of urban war-zone. They’ll fall down and have heart attacks the first time they try to run a hundred yards (which could be true, considering Israel’s 90 percent Covid vaxx uptake and the likely resulting non-symptomatic myocarditis present in young men there). Israeli intel sucks, he says. Israel’s sense of superiority, their notion of being the chosen people, must be smashed. Israeli soldiers should go into Gaza and be shot to pieces, he advises. Scott’s intemperance is… something to behold.
Three weeks ago, the Middle East was on the verge of putting through the Abraham Accords that would have “normalized” relations between Israel and several states of the Arabian Peninsula, exchanges of ambassadors, openings to trade and such. Other Islamic nations in North Africa were expected to join anon. And just before the October 7 Hamas attack, Saudi Arabia was about to hold normalization talks with Israel. That’s all out the window.
Scott Ritter’s proposed initiative goes like this: Call a cease-fire and halt the bombing of Gaza. Israel must commence direct face-to-face negotiations with Hamas — no intermediaries! — for the exchange of hostages and prisoners and to begin groundwork toward a two-state solution, that is, the creation of a Palestinian state alongside Israel. For decades, that two state solution has been hung up on two sharp thorns.
One is the practical question of where that Palestinian State would be. The common idea is that it would be the disputed zone called the West Bank (of the Jordan River) plus Gaza. The West Bank was occupied by Israel in the aftermath of the 1967 Six Day War, as was the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights on Israel’s northern border with Syria. Israel eventually returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in 1982, and Israel ended its occupation of the Gaza Strip in 2005. Gaza has been self-governing since, with internal conflict between its Hamas and Fatah factions. Gaza has been used as a launching site for rocket attacks in Israel ever since, regularly upending attempts to negotiate a lasting peace. Israel, on the other hand, has installed over 600,000 settlers in the West Bank, said to be in violation of international agreements.
The second thorn that hangs up any plausible peace is the Palestinians’ overt declarations in the Hamas charter, for instance, that Israel has no right to exist and must be destroyed. Iran, too, has for years notoriously declared its intention to “wipe Israel off the map.” That is hardly a viable pre-condition for settling this long quarrel. “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” goes the chant. Notice that the Islamic nations surrounding Israel refuse to admit any Palestinian settlers. Egypt, Jordan, Syria will not take them. Why is that? I’ll tell you: because they understand that the bellicose, fractious Palestinians will bring them trouble.
Western Civ, weakened, broke, and mind-fucked, now faces a fast-unifying multi-nation Jihad that looks more and more like World War Three. The pressure is on for Israel to re-think its furious response to the savage attacks of October 7. Yet, the threat to its survival has never been so stark. There is little appetite for the US to get involved, though reports out of the war fog indicate that there might be as many as 5,000 US soldiers already inserted into the Gaza campaign alongside IDF soldiers. We have plenty of reason to worry that US towns and cities could be the next target, since no one really knows how many Jihadis have crossed into our country from Mexico under “Joe Biden’s” wide-open border policy. What a moment to be leaderless!
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It’s kind of funny to watch Gen Z flip flop on war now that the draft is on the table. No more standing with Ukraine! Or anyone else! As if these gender confused little boys and girls who aren’t sure of which bathroom to use could defend anyone.
Yes. A draft would definitely focus some young minds.
I can only imagine their looks of horror the first time they got off the bus at the reception center and heard those fateful words: “Form up ladies, you’re in the Army now, buttercups!”
The thing is, a good number of them will be ladies, or men dressed as ladies.
The first words I heard when I got off the bus were “Welcome to hell, maggots”.
LOL! Those were the days, weren’t they? The stories I could tell…
Yes, it was a terror initiation. You were broken down and built up in a new image, with a new self image or inner understanding. Better? That depends, right? On what you were before or could have become. Some guys are able to keep their moral center or get it back afterwards. For some, submission to the State (for some that means the military or the State at that time) is all they have left.
Jimmy seems to have thrown it off, but you never have. Or perhaps your family was like this to begin with so there was no conflict.
But yes, sometimes the result is miraculous. A surly young thug enters and six months later returns as a gentleman with wonderful posture.
A draft would cause an explosion in the US, and neither the public nor the Pentagon is equipped to handle that possibility..Would it include young women, given that most young men are unfit? Too many issues would pop up…
True that.
And Sam Brinton, a non-binary Biden administration nuclear waste official, is out of jail after being caught on video stealing airport luggage containing jewelry, makeup and Louis Vuitton handbags.
The Blob SOP doesn’t have a warm-fuzzy feeling.
How is it that in 1967 and 1973, Israel overcame invasions by multiple neighboring nation-states and drove to victory in a matter of days, but now all the talk is of a long war to take out Hamas.
Hamas must have some serious mojo going on!
Hamas is sheltered in a sea of civilians.
Drafting the current confused generation of multi-vaccinated, obese men (and maybe women?) would create military forces incapable of fulfilling their wartime duties.
However, many of the young men in the current illegal alien invasion seem healthy and they are not required to be injected with experimental gene modification drugs. Offering them US citizenship, combined with generous financial benefits, in exchange for their military enlistment might provide a solution to the problem.
…”offering them U.S. citizenship…” Sure, and training them, and equipping them with weapons…
You are out of your damn mind
The Romans did that. It worked, for awhile.
Perspective, as you read these posts: I posted a respectful,well-reasoned comment… no racism, obscenity or ad hominems. For 2 days it was marked “pending” but, today, was gone. That this is censorship, of the most obvious type, is unarguable. What is very sad is the desperation that required it. Don’t bring up a subject, Jim, if you haven’t got the chops to defend it.
Did you post a link? That happens when you forget to take out the www.
Nothing personal, it’s just WordPress.
Not too sound heartless. I die inside every time I see a child hurt, and every time I see the horrors of war.
That said;
I don’t care about Israel.
I don’t care about Palestine.
I don’t care about Ukraine.
I don’t care about Iran.
I don’t care about Russia.
I could go on.
However it seems the more “we” care, the worse shit gets.
Maybe this is just self chosen distraction.
Definitely easier to armchair quarterback conflicts on the other side of the planet than…ahem..cleaning your room
Looks like Jim has a new Zionist hobby horse to ride for a while. Congrats! It should put butts in the seats.
There’s a real simple test for the idea that the Israeli’s are truly God’s “chosen people.” Withdraw all US support in the region lock stock and barrel ASAP and see how things go from there. Force “the poor Israeli’s” to either learn how to live with their neighbors peacefully or break out their nukes, which they stole the technology for from the US, and get the party started properly.
I’m not going to get into again with your pro-Zionist crowd here, although seeing as you’ve got a country of your very own in Israel, I’m surprised you don’t put your money where your mouth is and just relocate there already. Wouldn’t that make you a whole lot happier?
JW– If by “pro-Zionist” you mean Jews have a right to a homeland in Israel, well, yes, I’m on-board with that. Or do you mean something else? — JHKL Admin
I thought I stated it pretty clearly. No hidden agendas or veiled obnoxiousness on this end.
The US involvement in all this is only aggravating it greatly, although I personally think that’s what’s driving the entire thing in the first place. This is first and foremost a US deep state operation to create another front for Russia and China both to deal with, now that Russia is taking control of the Ukraine situation.
Sometimes I think that the Brits plopping A Jewish homeland on top of people who already were there, will end up doing more harm to the Jewish people than Hitler could of even imagined.
We are all trapped in Gaza..
That’s quite possible.
could of even imagined. – Travis
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could’ve
Yes Jimmy. Personally, I find the the metamorphosis of our host. He was the secular (and PRESCIENT) prophet of doom in the Long Emergency.
Then here on aptly-named CFN, he remains still very interesting and often illuminating. But he often peddles this false optimism about about how that US justice system will stop the globalist “DC blob”. It won’t, as it is part of the blob. But even if it did, that doesn’t address the millions of Americans living in the arid west, as water dwindles; or the “geography of nowhere” of a suburbia that is not viable without affordable oil.
Apparently all that stuff only applies to non-Israelis though.
And now, he’s going to pull a Cadillac. GM’s Cadillac, from inception up through the 1950s, and as late as the 1960s, was considered a proper car for rich people, because it was a superior car, like a Mercedes or a Rolls Royce.
In the 1960s, GM started to let it go. Cadillac coasted on its past reputation for about 10-15 years, but then lost it. Today. One does not drive a Cadillac to show they have “arrived”.
So, JHK has built a solid reputation over a lifetime, but he is going to let it slide, as he mostly echoes the talking points of the Israeli government, and glosses over the WORSE than Jim Crow, Israeli-version of apartheid the natives have been living under.
For an astute reporter to overlook how ALL Israeli governments have used force or legalisms to constantly move the goal posts is disappointing.
But there’s good news for JHK: it is my opinion that this time, Israel is going to change the landscape: they are going to clear Gaza of all Palestinians. This is why they are killing so many of them with indiscriminate bombing. And BTW, the IDF could have killed MANY more up to now. To compel them to leave. Those that don’t will be killed as terrorist accomplices.
The US and Israel will find 3rd countries to take them. The US will pay a couple of billion in “aid” to bribe them. Just like the US bribed Egypt to make peace with Israel.
But, if Israel is so great, fine. Let them go it alone. Why should the US, which JHK is the first to concede is broke, why should we send billions of tax dollars to Israel every year?
If you love Israel, and like their version of the Final Solution, and live in the US, if Americans are free to contribute to both sides, then contribute.
Tucker the other night: You can talk all you like about loving America, but if you want to send a hundred billion dollars out of it, you are wrong.
Or so he apparently said. Can’t find it. It’s been taken down.
“The US & Israel will find 3rd countries to take them.” You think? Apparently Nikki Haley thinks so too. She thinks they can come here. Now I’m trying to visualize millions of angry Palestinians roaming around the US looking for a chance to get even with their favorite ethnic group. Anyone who thinks that’s a viable plan doesn’t know how to think.
There’s 255,000 here already.
Another one sided write up.
We will just ignore the FACT the freedom fighter groups (/sarcasm off) the US labels as terrorists ALSO treat the average people on the west bank, Gaza and Lebanon as human meat shields.
The reality is they don’t care about average people they want the elimination of Israel at all costs regardless of what happens to everyone else living there including fellow Arabs and Muslims.
Consider anyone now trying to flee the area are murdered by the freedom loving groups known as Hamas and Hezbollah.
They have tipped their hands with rapes, beheadings, kidnappings, murders and general mayhem as to their ultimate goal this is not just on Jews but anyone unlucky enough to fall in their grasp. When it first started coming out I assumed it was just propaganda to stir the weak minded A LA the babies thrown from incubators in Iraq…but I have seen some of the videos yet another thing I can’t unsee from these barbarians.
Hiding weapons among them, deploying weapons from crowded areas and literally places consider off limits under “normal” rules of engagement to conduct asymmetrical warfare on Israelis and anyone not supporting their causes.
They are not just firing upon Israelis from trees and melting back into the forest they are firing upon them from crowded areas hospitals and then using the pallywood studios to disseminate at least as much propaganda as Israel is.
Israel would have been better served to find Hamas and selectively target them but it is what it is so we are left with a final solution of sorts in reverse.
I’m a realist. I’m just putting some needed balance.
In a better world, the more moderate Israelis and Palestinians would have prevailed, we’d have some semblance of a two-state solution, and some how, miraculously, these “moderate leaders” on both sides would be able to contain anger whenever some one was killed, and work with the other to catch and imprison or kill the perpetrator. That’s a lot to ask, in this small patch of real estate called Palestine/Israel, where it’s a hard to separate the groups involved.
I skimmed some excerpts of Hamas charter on sonar21.com
Sounds like they probably want wipe Israel off the map, though there is a blurb about “Jerusalem, 1967…”
I think that was the PLO’s position once. Eventually it changed, and the PLO accepted “Israel’s right to exist” and (I think) the Israeli government accepted that the Palestinians should have a “state”.
Arafat the terrorist, whose PLO famously killed the Israeli athletes in Munich in 1972, not to mention dozens or hundreds of other less-famous Israelis the PLO killed, this Arafat fellow got a Nobel Peace Prize.
Just like his (MUCH MORE successful) Jewish counterpart, Menachem Begin, whose Irgun blow up the King David Hotel and killed dozens or hundreds of innocent Palestinians.
But after Oslo, Israel slowly started weaseling out–the “details” of the 2-state solution, and kept moving the goalposts…
And, guess what else they did? To undercut the PLO (the predecessors of today’s Palestinian Authority in the West Bank), they mid-wifed the creation of…Hamas!
Talk about blowback.
Anyway, Israel’s actions over the past 30 years demonstrate that the Israeli governments feel the Palestinians are entitled to few rights and are second-class subjects. That is only slightly better than the stated position of Hamas vis-a-vis Israel.
Israel marginalized the more moderate Palestinians, because they were not deferential enough.
And now, Israel will use the totally predictable reaction which I think Netenyahu knew about (though perhaps not the MAGNITUDE of Oct 07), to pursue his final solution and remove all the Palestinians from Gaza–dead or alive (to 3rd countries).
It’s Israel’s Pearl Harbor! Just like FDR withheld information that might have saved some of the 2500 American dead (who help reverse anti-war sentiment), Bibi was busy and let a few hundred Israelis get taken by surprise. But to Bibi’s surprise, it was BIGGER than a few hundred, if Israel is not lying about the 1400 dead.
The bad blood this disproportionate bombing has already caused will give Israel the “excuse” it needs to do the same to the Palestinians in the West Bank, who are already living in little apartheid hamlets. Over a hundred have been killed in just the past three weeks.
I think Israel will get away with it in the short run. But I don’t think the State of Israel will see a Centennial Independence Day.
So, enjoy the ethnic cleansing to come, for the few years it will hold, as this crime will not go forgotten and unnoticed, just like Versailles did not go unnoticed.
Actually, Jimmy, the war is between Western Enlightenment represented by Israel opposed by 14th Century theocratic despotism represented by the Islamic nations who are responsible for whatever harm results from Israel upholding entitlement to modern democratic government and privileges thereof.
Western “Enlightenment?” Talk about ironic terms. Or is that an oxymoron?
Oh, so when Jimmy will you be traveling to aid your Islamic freedom fighters? Or, otherwise, maybe you’ll join one of the illegal entrant immigrant jihadist groups to conduct a cleansing here in our infidel US.
You first. The Zionists will be glad to have you.
There’s only two side, right Cave? No third side or third parties? No American side, right? You’re either Zionist or Islamic.
And you dare speak for our Culture?
A complete miss! Israel is a Bronze Age tribe with a 2-tiered “justice” system like the US South had, based on whom your parents were (white or black, Jewish or goyim). It is the exact OPPOSITE of Enlightenment Philosophy, premised on politically-equal individuals.
Completely agree.
Me too.
Every people have their myths and legends, Jews among them. The issue is that a politically powerful group of them believe it as fact. Given the vicious self entitlement in their myths, this is bad.
What is calamitous is that they demand that the rest of the world go along with their bullshit.
What bullsh#t, BJ? That the Jews have a Homeland on a little 8500 sq. mi. strip of land on the eastern edge of the Mediterranean? ~ The last outpost of Western Civilization before you cross into the squalid wasteland that is the old Ottoman Empire?
When are we going to get a homeland, BRH? Do you think they care about that? Or have they been on the forefront of mass immigration all over the Western World?
“Once we are through with it, the United States can dry and blow away.”
Netanyahu
Rhodesian and South African politicians were among the biggest supporters of the creation of Israel. Soon after, the Israelis began undermining the Rhodesian and South African governments and slandering them as racist, etc. Thanks, guys.
Ethnostate for me, but not for thee.
You mean like it is now?
That’s the late Leon Uris’ thesis.
People like Einstein, Feynman, Oppenheimer, Fermi (whose wife was Jewish), etc. “stole” the bomb? You’re so dumb you think Shirley Temple is a synagogue.
You do realize that all those people were Americans, or at least loyal to America at the time, don’t you? And at least one of them – Oppenheimer – immediately regretted inventing the damn thing. The fact that the Israeli’s used surreptitious black ops means to later acquire the US’s nuclear technologies – which they still don’t officially admit to having, mind you – is well documented. You pro-Zionists need to hire some better propagandists – Joshua. Now go outside and play.
@jt
I had the same thought but JW appears to be the type that probably thinks the elder protocols of zion is historical fact.
Actually, whole lot of people think its a fact. I’m non-committal so far, but I have to admit it sure fits world events to a T.
I was fooled by the pro-Palestinian propaganda too. I felt that Israel was unfairly targeting innocent Palestinians for extinction just to make space for more settlers. How wrong I was. Events of recent weeks have opened up my eyes to the fact that the events of October 7 were part of a larger well-organized pogrom funded and carried out by Jew-hating fanatics who could care less about the plight of Palestinians and don’t want any compromise when it comes to eliminating every last Jew and Christian from the middle east. Once Israel goes, you can bet the Christian minority in the middle east will be next, Don’t believe me? Just ask the millions of Christians who have been “ethnically cleansed from lands that they inhabited for centuries, It happened after World War Two when Arab nations expelled their Jewish minorities in retaliation for the establishment of Israel. And don’t talk about LGBTQ rights or religious freedom in the Islamic world. The only place they exist in the middle east is in Israel.
Lebanon anyone?
Dhimmitude is no fun.
fanatics who could care less about the plight of Palestinians – hortonz
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For the thousandth time, “could care less” does not equal “couldn’t care less.”
Maybe he meant it literally.
Yeah, it’s hard for Christians to live in a Muslim country. But it’s been the Israelis often stopping the Palestinian Christians from going to mass these last number of years.
And they just blew up one of the oldest Churches.
Specifically, lgbtq should not have special rights, which is what they seem to want, anywhere in the world. They already have the same rights in America as anyone else. Now they even have marriage and other legal rights that I don’t think they deserve. Currently, I am against any aid, military or monetary to either Palestine or Israel. Anyone who joins the U.S. military at this point in history is a fool. America is dead. It is close to the final convulsions. All due to our so called “leaders”, and the stupidity of its citizens.
Syria has religious freedom still, including Christian communities that still speak Aramaic.
The US has done their best for the last 13 years to destroy that, using jihadist terrorists.
They were, and are, vicious beyond belief, but you don’t know about that, because the US supports them.
It’s all one big Psy-Op by the Cabal. All these folks y’all keep talking about are tools of the Cabal. The Cabal wants to stir up things forever. War is Good for Them. They get everything they want from War. Everyone who is all flustered about this current situation in Palestine are suckers.
There’s a simple solution to all this. It should be obvious to anyone visiting Rome as a tourist. Go visit the Arch of Titus, it’s a giant monument celebrating Rome’s victory over Israel and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. You can see in the carvings on the arch the columns of Roman soldiers taking away all the sacred objects of inestimable value out of the Jerusalem temple and hauling all that loot off to Rome. Things of value like a huge golden menorah. It was said a very long time ago that if a Jew wishes to “undo” his/her Jewishness then all they need do is walk under the Arch of Titus. That’s the equivalent of a Christian committing the unforgiveable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. Walk under that arch and Jehovah will be done with you – forever.
So who should we really blame for this mess in the ME? Where does the buck stop? I’ll throw my ideas into this boiling pot of contending claims and blame Italy. The Italians are responsible for destroying Israel and scattering it to the four winds. Italy needs to be tried in an international court and must pay up and bear ultimate responsibility for the past crimes of the Roman Empire. The Arch of Titus has the proof etched in stone of Italy’s guilt in destroying Israel. Why shouldn’t Italy pay for it all? After all, we’re talking about reparations for black people here in the US. It’s time for all Italians to step up to the plate, admit their collective guilt in having done wrong to the Jews 2000 years ago. They should offer up the Italian state as a new homeland for either Jews or Palestinians, it cannot be both. Italians should be kicked out of a large part of Italy and then spend the rest of their lives as refugees in Germany, France, Sweden, or England.
Ok. Let’s see if anyone takes this post seriously. But how is the crap I’ve just written any more crazy than what’s already happened?
Uh, Italians are not Romans, who eventually reaped the whirlwind for their long history of conquest and confiscation.
o who should we really blame for this mess in the ME? Where does the buck stop?
The Cabal stupid. Italy? Come on! This thing is INTERNATIONAL.
“The Cabal”? Just exactly who are these Cabal guys? This sounds too much like “CHAOS” people on the ancient late 60’s show “Get Smart”. Right now we’re seeing various historical narratives being placed under great scrutiny everywhere and determinations are being made as to who the good guys were thousands of years ago. Who was it that deserved to lose their “homelands” and be driven out and who were the groups deemed to have been on the “right side” of a dispute over ownership of land and resources? Fundamentalist Christians will write that Palestine was originally filled with heathen devil worshippers and disciples of Baal. They’ll say that towns like Jericho were abominable cities and civilizations that God deemed worthy of destruction. Looking at history in this fashion brings gods and devils into the debates and leads the combatants into endless mazes of lost verbiage and crazy claims.
We owe reparations to the relatives of those who lived 1000 (give or take) years ago for their suffering!
‘There’s a real simple test for the idea that the Israeli’s are truly God’s “chosen people.” ‘
Jimmy Word, There’s a distinction to be made between believing that Israel has a right to exist and believing that the Israelis (or anyone else) are God’s chosen people. The two sometimes go together, but often not.
The ME is vast, and Israel is minuscule by comparison. It seems reasonable to me that they should have this small place for themselves. At the very least, I don’t think it’s a reason to start WW3.
Agreed. Hence, get the US imperialists the hell out of there and let things work themselves out. Both sides would need to make concessions, but first of all they need to be put on equal footing.
Yeah Jimmy W., I guess you’re right; all the gains of Western cv should be forfeited in favor of 14th Century Islamic culture/social order. Excepting, of course, all the material advantages gained by Western modernity. List there too all the weaponry that should be exclusive to the Mullahs for enforcing Muslim law.
Believe it or not, not everyone in the world is mesmerized by “the material advantages of western modernity.”
“all the material advantages gained by Western modernity” –
These material advantages you speak of are made possible by basically two natural resources – oil and natural gas. Whether you like it or not, a 14th century Islamic culture is sitting and living on, and they manage and produce a large portion of the world’s oil supply. Take all that oil offline and this “Western modernity” will rapidly change into something resembling sub-Saharan Africa. Our entire hopeless and temporary culture depends on substances that are NOT renewable and can be taken away years ahead of the time of “running out”. This can happen easily due to political problems and not just resources simply running out. We’ve created an extremely weak, delusional. and dependent society with a firmly stamped expiration date on it. It seems most don’t care and prefer instead to pass away when trouble arrives. Not much of a plan – but I can understand why.
It’s too small for them. They intend to expand and are doing so.
And even then, not all of them will live there.
There is a big difference between a “homeland” and a “state.”
Much more self-education needed here. Even Balfour quite quickly understood this.
I recommend Morris Jastrow’s
Zionism and the future of Palestine; The fallacies and dangers of political Zionism (Macmillan 1919)
He was Jewish, if that makes any difference. A great scholar of the Near East.
Right here:
httpZ://archive.org/details/zionismandfutur00jastgoog/page/n28/mode/1up
“There is a big difference between a “homeland” and a “state.”
Dimitri Orlov recently published an essay about Israel, homelands, states, etc. He compares Jews and Gypsies. Both groups have the idea of ancient “homelands” they’d lost. The Gypsies seem more content with their particular situation with mythical “homelands”. Orlov writes:
“Jews as an ethnic group are quite peaceful and rather nonviolent. They are basically literate, educated Gypsies. Like Gypsies, they are rarely found in high concentrations but are diffuse within a non-Jewish population, which they call “goyim” (whereas the Gypsies call non-Gypsies “gadje”). Also like Gypsies, they ingratiate themselves with the non-Jews by providing them with various services: the Gypsies concentrate on fortune-telling, musical performances and various sorts of manual labor, which they perform as work communes and for cash; the Jews, on the other hand, tend to be lawyers, doctors, dentists, bankers and so forth.
The similarities between Jews and Gypsies don’t stop there. They both derive their ethnic identity via matrilineal descent: it doesn’t matter who the father is as long as the mother is Gypsy or Jewish. Both of these ethni are essentially nomadic (as are the Arabs): the Arab “beyt” and the Hebrew “beth”, often taken to mean “house”, actually means “tent”. And because of their peaceful, nonviolent nature, both frequently fall victim to repression and violence. When this happens, their response is the same: relocation, this being their main survival strategy in times of great duress.
While the Gypsies were once a settled people in the north of India a mere millennium ago, the Jews haven’t had a place to call home (except for the Jewish Autonomous Region of the USSR and now the Russian Federation) for almost two whole millennia after being scattered to the four winds by the Romans. And while the Gypsies, being non-literate, have long lost all association with their distant homeland on the Indian subcontinent, the Jews, after the horrible experience of the Nazi Holocaust, in which both Gypsies and Jews suffered in equal measure, suddenly were filled with nationalist passion and irredentist fantasies and started to battle for a recolonization of Palestine.”
Gypsies are now called Roma I think, unless they changed it back.
Re Orlov’s thesis:
Definitely thought-provoking and worth more “excavation.”
Although I don’t think all supposed similarities hold up to deeper scrutiny..
A year from now when tens of thousands of INNOCENT children are mangled, murdered and orphaned …our host will channel MADalin Albright and harp….”Yes we think the price was worth it.”
Disgusting.
Yep history began on Oct 7th.
There is a bigger picture at play here and most people are missing it including our illustrious host.
You could just as easily say that Palestinians have a right to a homeland in Israel.
I could say that I (and my relatives) have a right to Tara (I’d settle for the one in Gone with the Wind or the Hill of Tara in Ireland, either one) because I’m part Irish and probably related to one or more of the Kings of Tara of old. I can’t prove this, but I feel in my heart that this is so.
If pressed, I’m willing to compose a song about it, and call it, “This Land is Mine.”
“If pressed, I’m willing to compose a song about it, and call it, “This Land is Mine.” ”
I assume you know of the brilliant animation based on the song ‘This Land is mine, God Gave this Land to MEEEEEE.”
Welcome to the 4th Turning friends. It will all end in tears.
Yes indeedey, and a Happy 4th Turning to you too, RR. It seems that, after 15 years of churning, we’re finally entering the terminal kinetic phase. It could take another decade of this and worse, or through the magic of hypersonic thermonuclear missiles, all be over sometime later this afternoon.
Anybody care to place bets on the timing?
Sooner would probably be better. The longer they wait, the more the mass death technologies develop and proliferate. Russia’s advantage in hypersonics won’t last forever, although US arms manufacturers would have to do a total about face and start producing shit that actually works vs. merely chasing “shareholder value” to ever catch up.
Ha! We (the US) spend Russia’s ANNUAL war budget every month (more, actually)! Yet they have (game-changing) hypersonic missiles, can churn out 100s of thousands of artillery shells a month, and lead in Electronic Warfare (USS Donald Cook incident, Black Sea). Sooo, um…what, exactly has that $850 billion budget been buying? Eyes Wide Shut parties? We re not even allowed to conduct a successful AUDIT! Either p[arty offering a solution??
Rudy, I don’t think you’ve spent much time Washington DC. I mean the “area”, not the touristy parts.
There are hundreds of thousands of highly-paid people–military officers, defense firm employees and even executives, highly paid GS/GM Federal employees.
Did I mention highly paid “professionals”? Well, the moneys gotta come from someplace. It comes from the cost of our bally-hooed weapons.
It’s always been like that. Now it’s worse than ever.
Here’s a simple example: Vietnam. US soldier carried the “neat” M-16. The North Vietnamese Army got the “new AK-47”.
Which one was better? They had Senate hearings about how much the M-16s jammed in combat, and the dead troops clutching jammed weapons. In the few engagements where the NVA “won”, they’d strip everything of use from the dead GIs: utility belts, grenades, helmets, boots–but they left the M-16s.
The original Armalite AR-15, which is what the M-16 was based on, was an excellent weapon. “National Defense” by James Fallows has a whole chapter dedicated to how the US bureaucracy took an excellent weapon and f—ed it up.
Now, over the decades, the M-16s iterations have improved, of course. Today’s M-16s are not the same that US soldiers used in the 1960s.
That’s a metaphor. The USSR made weapons for killing, not profit. The US MIlitary Industrial Complex is racket–it makes weapons to MAKE money first.
That’s why the US can’t help the Ukrainians even if it really wanted to (not that they deserve ANY help). Because US weapons are a “suite”. You need the whole “package”. Example, HIMARS missiles may be great on paper, but they are big and stand out to satellites or even aircraft. No air superiority mean they get taken out. Air superiority is another whole “suite”. See how the “synergism” works?
If the US ramps things up with Iran (and I hope it does not), even if we don’t go to WW3, if the Iranians manage to knock out an aircraft carrier with a missile, and word gets out (or the carrier just can’t launch aircraft) that will be devastating to the US in terms of world prestige.
The purpose of The Department of Defense is to defend real estate values in Northern Virginia and Southern Maryland.
Rich Men North of Richmond.
Socrates give Eugene Stoner some credit. He was one of those mechanical geniuses America used to be full of, came up with the Armelite idea in his garage in an LA suburb.
So-Crates: Every nut and bolt costs ten dollars. Would you go to a hardware store that charged that much?
What the name of that “new’ plane that sucks? It has cost tens of billions to develop, can’t run, can’t jump, can’t fight, can’t fuck.
They spent so much, they couldn’t back out – even if it didn’t work. That doesn’t matter. What matters is the money.
Here’s a list of the Top Ten “defense” contractors.
Number four is Pfizer.
://about.bgov.com/top-defense-contractors/
@rudyspeaks – OK, maybe you’re right but how inclusive are those barbarian Russians? Huh? I’ll bet they can’t even march in high heels! And they call themselves soldiers! We spend more accessorizing than those brutes do on bullets!
Dr. Coyote – I will take the over on this. It’s going to drag on until 2030
BRH, yes, Stone’s AR-15 was brilliant. Curtis LeMay loved it!
But the US Army acquisition system “modified” the weapon to “meet Army standards” which made it prone to jamming.
Which is why hundreds of GIs were killed in action in Vietnam–their guns jammed, in firefights.
And a few years after I read the book, in the military, getting my M-16 training, well, I’ll be darned, but… my weapon jammed. On the range.
“OMG, just like the book!”. National Defense by James Fallows. A whole chapter for the M-16!
Word.
Finishing line:
>>What a moment to be leaderless!
Leaderless, yes, and yet led by a shadowy uniparty cabal, right down the chute into WWIII. This is going to be a very long decade, first into the descent and bottoming-out of this nonsense, and then into the rebuilding phase. IF there can be a rebuilding, following the wars that seem to be on the horizon.
And this time, I think part of it is going to be fought right here on our home soil.
Iran has promised us this. The open border is the guarantor.
Yes, the open border insures that we will have some form of jihad in America. Things appear to be in dire straits, especially with a looming financial apocalypse.
State Governments’ Human Cattle
State borders around their pens are artificial and, as such, can be diddled by their governments to affect the migration patterns their human cattle inside and out.
“IF there can be a rebuilding”………
There most certainly will be a rebuilding, a great reset, whatever you wish to call it. It will be a return to the very same living conditions our forefathers enjoyed and experienced at least a century ago. It means a return to self sufficiency and practical and sustainable living. Most people won’t be able to make the transition due to lack of skills, poor health, drug addictions, mental disabilities, laziness. A lot of others will likely be shot during all the chaos that occurs when life returns to something resembling the 1930’s. My dad was a teenager in the 30’s and told me lots of stories about that decade that I didn’t want to hear about. It sounded very “uncool”, hot, miserable, and no fun at all. I never could figure out why he was telling me all that stuff – I was instead upset because our family car didn’t have a big V8 motor and was the economy model with a six cylinder engine. My dad thought that the best car ever made was a Ford model A and that’s all anyone ever needed. He was correct of course – but extremely uncool and not “with it”.
Have to chalk it up to Satanic influence that so many Westerners have lost their minds over Palestine and somehow have bought the narrative that Islam is somehow righteous and Israel somehow pure evil. In a sea of sand run by Islam how is it so unfair that Israel have a small slice of it? Jews were there before Islam was even a copycat thought of Judaism/Christianity. I’m not lionizing Jews – far from it. They created bad optics by being ruthless bankers in the West and captains of industry with apparently no moral compass whatsoever. But the Jewish PEOPLE have a right to that land. More than any other actor in this sorry play.
You are incorrect. Read the Bible. Jews moved to Palestine and promised to live in peace with the people who were already there.
I think the Jews get along pretty well with the Christians who were there before the present state of Israel existed.
Palestinian Christians, Muslims, and Jews got along fine before the Zionist settler colonists started arriving.
It was Palestine then and it is still Palestine now.
Do individual immigrants to Israel have a legal right to land with a long-held deed held by individual Arabs? Tough question,
And the Jewish PEOPLE will hate you if talk about their control of the media and banking. In other words, they identify with them. In other words, your distinction between the two is false, by and large.
Some do admit it and regret it. And some hate what their people have done to the Palestinians.
Your logic is a little faulty there. In a sea of sand run by Islam, shouldn’t I have a small slice of it? Shouldn’t Sub-Saharan Africans to have a small slice of It? Since China is overwhelmingly populated by Chinese, does that mean that blacks (or Swedes or Italians) should own “a small slice of it”–just to be fair?
Why should the Jewish people have a right to that land? Why shouldn’t the Palestinians have a right to it? For that matter, why shouldn’t the Brazilians have a right to it? Or, if you’re looking for someone who’s suffered a whole lot (or claim they have) why not assert that the LGBT folks have a right to it? By their account, they’ve had it pretty tough. Shouldn’t they get a homeland where they can be free to be who they are without persecution?
They have the western countries, led by the USA.
“Jewish PEOPLE have a right to that land. More than any other actor in this sorry play.”
Using this logic the Native Americans were in North America and they owned this continent some 30,000 years before white Europeans showed up here. Therefore the natives deserve to have it all back. Indians owned this land for 28,0000 years longer than the Jews owned Palestine. So why aren’t we giving them their land back and why aren’t we all moving back to Europe – or maybe just putting bullets in our heads in order to make everything even and simple again.
Dear JHK Admin,
It is funny to see Scott Ritter ideologically on the wrong end of two wars. Your understanding of the Palestinian-Israeli problem is a bit selective. Context matters. Gaza is akin to an outdoor prison, with movement heavily regulated into and out of it by Israelis and Egyptians. The inability of Gazan’s to leave the war zone or be supplied with basic necessities is not a bug of this war, but a feature. Netanyahu is widely seen in Israel as having his desire to pit Hamas against the PA to weaken it, as a major owner of this mess.
Hustled — Maybe Gaza’s should not use their sovereign territory to launch rockets and barbaric ground attacks against their neighbors. They have made their own prison by behaving badly. — JHK-Admin
I agree with you on one thing: The Israelis have always made clear that recognition of the state of Israel is a precondition for any productive talks. Hamas is not interested in it. Neither is Iran. So, until Hamas’ view changes, we are stuck with these cycles of war and revenge. Any two state solution requires partners who believe in each others’ right to exist. Pretty simple.
As for Jewish settlements in the West Bank? Israel had settlements in Sinai. They dismantled them before the Egyptians came back. And the Egyptians came back because Egypt agreed to the basic idea that Israel had a right to exist peaceably with its Arab neighbours. Is Israel prepared to go back to pre-1967 borders to get the peace it wants? Will Hamas change? Or be overthrown?
Each side will have to give something here.
Yes, the barbaric attacks were awful.
But they’re hardly out of character. How exactly did the Irgun and Stern Gang, which were terrorist groups, “clear” Palestine of the indigenous Arabs in 1947/1948? The committed a few thousand atrocities, and the rest left.
Also, as an investigative reporter, who reports facts the main media doesn’t, I’ve read that there is as chance the Palestinian insurgents/terrorists/fighters/guerillas/criminals may not have realized there was a “Rave fest” in the desert, and they got disoriented and distracted.
Also, the “beheaded babies”. Did any Israeli official ever confirm that?
What about the ongoing blockade of Gaza for the past 15 years? What about the killings of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank every day? What about the eviction of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank every day? What about them not being allowed to have water THREE days a week? What about Israelis taking their water, while some “settlers” have swimming pools?
No, not a word about.
Well said. And this war was begun with an Israeli false flag. That can’t be forgotten.
Socrates-Detroit:
For JHK, “history” began on Oct. 7.
Not a day earlier.
Hi Socrates-Detroit,
Benny Morris has an interesting history of Israel–“1948” which is a more nuanced approach than the common hagiography that is common looking at the birth of Israel’s nationhood and, with it, an analysis of the “harassment into flight” of Arabs who were in areas claimed by Israelis. The history of nations are not always derived morally and white-washing Israeli efforts (as self-defence) is not helpful.
@hustled Thanks, good info.
I re-read my 10:59, Oct 30, comment.
Paragraph 2, about the “Rave”. It would have been interesting to see any comments or investigative reporting on whether Hamas deliberately planned to attack it, or whether the Rave was a short-notice party in the desert, and being a festive event with a lot of people, an unplanned target of opportunity.
I read an interesting article which implied that the Hamas terrorists/killers/insurgent/fighters may not have known about the Rave party.
My point being that, the Rave was the source of an inordinate number of casualties. Was that a pre-planned, deliberate target, or one of “opportunity”.
I can’t find the link in sonar21 now.
Like most people, despite the daily abuses suffered by the Palestinians, the killing of civilians is reprehensible and not justified. Ever. Regarding “justice”, my sense is most of these Hamas killers cannot return to Gaza and were or will be killed or caught.
I also think bombing densely populated areas is reprehensible.
To the extent that the Israeli is supposedly better than Hamas, then the Israeli bombs are even more reprehensible than the savage acts of Hamas. But the politicians who ordered the mass bombing will never be “caught”; and the pilots and crews will never be held to account for killing and maiming tens of thousands (so far).
Not that that it matters now. No matter what the talking heads say, the ill well this has engendered on both sides, pretty much makes any settlement impossible. I think the Israelis will forcibly remove the surviving Palestinians (Nakba II).
They’ll get their “pure Israel”. But in the long run, with having to worry about Palestinian captives being collateral damage, who knows what the next cycle of violence will bring to Israel–and the entire Middle East.
Energy, Projection Of Power & Israel In The Balance
” They’ll get their ‘pure Israel’.” ~ Socrates-Detroit
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Time will tell, but I imagine you’ve heard about the Iran-backed Houthis getting involved.
There’re also some 10 or 20 thousand US troops that just popped down in KSA too, apparently. (Although KSA/MBS doesn’t appear too aligned with the US anymore, so unsure how that’s going to pan out. Maybe it’s a booby trap.)
In any case, what with increasing large-scale quality fossil fuel energy constraints, large-scale State governments as we’ve come to know and despise them (except of course for a few of the clueless, including perhaps some of their cannon-fodder) may be approaching their last legs, if they’re not already on them– energy for the projection-of-power and all that.
“Maybe it’s a booby trap…” …or a photo-op.
And I agree with you, JHK-Admin. They shouldn’t be launching weapons into Israel. and committing atrocities. I disagree with you that they “make their own prison by their bad behaviour.” Sure–they are part of the problem. But the Israeli approach to this–including Netanyahu’s is also part of the problem. This is something actively debated in Israel. If you treat people barbarically, well, are you surprised if they behave barbarically?
Maybe Gaza’s should not use their sovereign territory to launch rockets – JHK-Admin
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I’m guessing Gaza’s should be Gazans.
RFKJr has published another blockbuster, this one called “The Wuhan Cover-Up.”
Has he? That’s a good thing. I thought we were just all gonna forget the covid crimes against humanity.
One trick pony.
If the one trick is accounting for crimes against humanity, I’d say that’s a good thing.
You wouldn’t.
Needs to be more than that.
To be president, yes.
In addition to all the new genders on offer, we’ll need a new definition of “winner” to apply when the mayhem has played itself out. With all the nukes now available, Chekov’s Gun Theory takes on very ominous tones.
What is the theory?
What is the theory? – Jar
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If you had performed a simple google search you would have learned this:
Chekhov’s gun is a narrative principle that states that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed.
As I understand it, it is that if there is a gun on the mantel in the first act, it must be used by the final act.
Izzy’s talk about nukes makes me think that that is what he meant.
To wit, Chekhov said that if he described a gun above the mantel, it had better go off at some point in the story.
Updike, on the other hand, wrote novels that stood around picking their noses a lot.
I asked the question in order to facilitate discussion. Do you understand, gas huffer?
As a kid in the 50’s and early 60’s I grew up in a small town that had quite a number of Jewish merchants. Since they had control of most of the daily needs, they took advantage of the people in town. They didn’t associate with other than their tribe in town. They treated other ethnics, Italians, Polish, etc. as second-class people. Even a kid, I knew this wasn’t right.
My Italian parents always told me to deal with them, but don’t trust them.
Have things really changed?
Yes, Israel needs a Country. But at this point, the Muslims will never trust the Jewish people.
In the end, the Jewish people will figure a way for America to pay for their war and make money on the whole deal.
The Muslims are just bat shit crazy…
I recently had to make a deal with an Indian man. Dot, not feather.
I had heard many things about making a deal with an Indian, mostly along the lines of “don’t”.
I knew a man running his own business, when he got a call from and Indian, asking him to come out and give them an estimate on a job, would not return the call.
As it turned out, the man was very nice, made me a very fair offer, and took a great weight off my shoulders.
Just an anecdote.
Which man? The man or the Indian?
Yes Jar, I too was confused by Beryl’s telling of the anecdote.
Ditto.
Sorry, I placed the part about the guy with his own business where it confused the narrative.
I was concerned about making a deal with an Indian, but the Indian turned out to be very nice and also honest.
Scott Ritter is a cunt and so is this Jimmy Word. Note to Mr Kunstler: stop being “ fair” to assholes. It’s YOUR BLOG, not a public forum.
What was the name of that guy who got fired after he said, Our grandfathers used to deal with these people (the Bund) with baseball bats – as if that was the way to deal with critics of Israel.
Funny that my first retort to the imbecile doc above (which was not derogatory) got deleted, while his inane stupidity survives. If I didn’t know better, I’d think that Jim doesn’t like me. LOL!
@Jimmy: You’re doin great, kid.
pardon the colloquialism, I just always wanted to say that..
I wish I could be neutral on the problems of those people, over there, but it’s hard not to take a side, and realistically, why is most of the world sick of Israel’s bs?
Israel, Bibi specifically, brags that he has America as his attack dog. Given that reality, Americans are responsible for making clear that our government is acting without our sanction, in its support, or scratch that: in its advocacy for and promulgation of, Israel.
Israel will likely get its comeuppance, to one degree or another, and this is what Scott Ritter was on about; he is suggesting that the world’s affairs, the likelihood of a stage less fraught with deadly peril, will be better off if when Israel gets knocked down a peg or five, here.
JHK saw the writing on the wall re Russia and Ukraine — namely that the US was the bad guys. But Israel is a more contentious topic. Tho it’s really the same war, just a different front.
Thanks S_e! I need all the support I can get on this blog.
I wouldn’t much stock in what Scott Ritter has to say, as he is a degenerate who has been 2x arrested for sex crimes directed at underage girls.
Ritter is disqualified.
Interestingly enough, allegations of “sex crimes” are one of globocap’s favorite smear tactics.
One Julian Assange can tell you all bout that.
Not sure I’d go all-in on that viewpoint. The allegations against Ritter came after he spoke out against the fraudulent Iraq war, which, ofc, was tied to the second-greatest hoax in modern history.
I never thought of that.
Good point, Owl.
Good work. Now what else aren’t you thinking about?
IIRC, that particular sex crime was one where no actual victim existed.
Like a word without a referrant or a murder without a body.
Like Jamal Khashoggi?
There are many great hoaxes that have happened. So there is the second-greatest hoax in modern history. What is the first greatest hoax then? Or am I misreading this……
Taking the name “Israel” instead of Judah for their country confused a few but deluded many.
BRH,
I watched the entire Ritter rant…it was like watching a train wreck…he said things that many people believe, but cannot be said, and he said it poorly, with more emotion than was prudent. It was his version of “Kill them all…God will know his own”.
Entirely impolitic.
Ritter has probably seen his last major Podcast. Disqualified? Maybe. But not for his liking of post pubescent girls…who doesn’t?
There, but for the Grace of God, go us.
Thank you. Marrying teenage girls was quite normal up to the 19th century. Past twenty and they’re becoming old maids.
Of course they’re not raised to be wives and mothers anymore, so marrying them is not appropriate – be they teenagers, 20 plus, or 30 plus.
You never grew up in my family. We girls got constantly derided for going to college. Dad and Grandpa saw it as a waste of a guy’s seat in class. I once showed Grandpa a science fiction novel I’d translated into Portuguese (Grandpa sometimes translated things), and he said. “So, when are you going to have children?”
It ticked me off at the time, but now I realize that the old man was largely right. Glad to have not forgotten to have kids because there is no greater joy.
On the other hand, I have paddled my own canoe financially better than Grandpa would have guessed.
Yes, Gramps and I were right. Or Gramps’n me. Glad you finally see it.
Patriarchy is the Way. Take our hand and we will lead you to Paradise.
Oh I smelled out Ritter quite a few months ago. I have pretty good radar for self-destructive individuals who don’t know when enough is enough. They invariably ignore the Line and march on past it. A man always shows his true self in time. Which, by the way, is why I truly love Putin.
I wouldn’t [put] much stock in what Scott Ritter has to say – BRH
Has anyone calling for a cease fire even thought to maybe call upon Hamas to surrender the savage sociopaths who murdered thousands, even babies?
No. Of course not. They want Israel to annihilate the entirety of Gaza, or at least attempt to.
Why else would they overlook the obvious, albeit temporary, end to the harm being inflicted on civilians?
It’s starting to look like the IDF will limit its incursions into Gaza; instead of hundreds of thousands of troops in a massive invasion it will be smaller scale raids searching for specific targets (and destroying them) Hamas will use Palestinian civilians for cover and the last thing Israel needs is an urban combat situation like the found Marines at Fallujah or the US Army in Manila in 1945.
I’m not following it particularly closely , but that is the impression I’m getting ;
The Israelis have already dialed back from the mother of all battles / wars ,
to a thousand and one little , slow , boring , tedious police actions.
Most of the hype appears to be on paper and in front of the cameras.
Not so sure about that. They appear to be bombing night and day. There are plenty of videos on Twatter showing massive destruction.
Whateverone thinks about this conflict, a genocide is taking place.
Can’t and won’t dispute it.
Like I said , I’m not following it closely.
The performance of the Russian Army in Ukraine is my interest , it is going to stay my interest , and that’s just the way things are.
I was fucking bored with Palastine the first day.
Forwarded by a college classmate:
“The numbers are so huge (today 8306 killed, including 3457 children) that humanity blurs in the horror.
Transmitted below is an email which I have just received from my friend. . . Mohammed Omer, who for many years was probably the leading English-language journalist in Gaza but, fortunately, is no longer living there.
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Dear [name],
I must share some profoundly saddening news with you. My cousin Alaa, along with her husband and their five children, tragically lost their lives in an airstrike that hit an entire residential area in the west of Gaza City, Shati camp. They had sought refuge at a UN school, but as the children felt the cold within the shelter, Alaa, though scared for four days to return to her home, returned to get warm clothes. Her husband accompanied her, as they had no one to care for their children, including a 10-month-old baby. Tragically, they were unable to make it out of the house when an airstrike struck a minute after they all got in, leaving their bodies trapped between two floors. So far, ambulance crews have managed to extract her husband’s body, but the children and their mother remain buried, and there are no heavy machines available in Gaza’s most densely populated refugee camp to assist in their rescue.
This loss is nothing short of devastating for our family, and I felt it was important to share this heartbreaking news with you.
Warm regards,
Mohammed”
This is the kind of thing that JHK now seems to think is in the interests of the USA. Weird.
It’s theater however they don’t have a large enough cast or props to do the big invasion “grand finale” so instead will be the usual.
This.
The story is barely on ZeroHedge now.
The narrative petered out because the writers didn’t really know how it was supposed to go.
It was all high drama until it wasn’t.
Seems to happen a lot lately.
Elon Musk also “wrecked things” by providing Starlink.
We need those Chechen peace keepers – Now!
Yes, we live in interesting times. Whatever happens, the CCP seems to always benefit. The dragon is on a roll.
Yup! The dragon is the head of BRICS++. The relationship between Xi and Putin is a good indicator.
The enemy is us.
The simple one-night solution to Palestine is a General Curtis LeMay (RE 09 March 1945) mass MOABing of the Gaza Strip. Dust. Given the blast radius…no more than 50 AREneeded.
A MOAB is a fuel-air bomb based upon a cloud of micronized aluminum and titanium. No carbon dioxide pollution, therefore not reGRETAble.
*Remember! “The first time is never a war crime.”*
Those things are damn impressive from a purely technological standpoint. Most of the explosive power of a nuke with no radioactive regrets afterward.
Here’s how this is probably going to end. A large part of the world’s oil supply passes through the Straits of Hormuz which is next to Iran. A general war in the ME will make all that oil unavailable and the global price of petroleum will double or even triple and destroy industrial economies in the West. Y’all want war? Fine! Be prepared to pay at the pump and at the grocery store. Say goodbye to comfy suburban living and hello to misery and chaos.
Right now, the direction of oil flow is drifting east as China leaves the coal field in favor of ME and Russian oil and gas. Losing Ukraine and Israel will accelerate the movement.
Yeah, don’t they have dam busting underground bombs that could destroy the tunnel systems?
Seems to me everyone seems to be holding back in both wars, not using weapons to do the job. We have feared the Great Bear for 70 years, why? The cannot even beat Ukraine.
The bear has already beaten Ukraine. It’s all over but the shoutin’.
It seems to me that the forever problem with politics is that you want certitudes , blacks and whites ,
and that is precisely what you NEVER get.
For one thing , because politics attracts the very worst people.
It sounds hyperbolic , but I think you are more likely to find good people among drug dealers , or in prison.
In politics , scratch for a hero , and you come up with a fiend.
In my own backyard ,
I have always been a pro – Russian partisan ,
but I would hope that i at least occasionally point out , and if I haven’t , I’ll point it out here ;
Vladimir Putin’s career didn’t begin in a vacuum in 1991.
He was a KGB colonel , and the KGB wasn’t the Girl Scouts.
Maybe the Leopard can change its spots , maybe the Prince of Darkness can become Mary Poppins ,
but it seems reasonable to me to be rather skeptical about it.
In your yard —
Maybe Joe Biden was right that Clarence Thomas was a bad egg and a pervert ?
But I think the evidence is pretty strong now that if that was the case , it was the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.
“Michael Flynn, who Trump says would have a prominent position in his next Admin, says that members of the House and Senate are compromised by globalists who have blackmail on them because they had sex with children.”
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1718421142073917903?s=20
I long ago came to the conclusion that the result of , ” Get tough on crime ” would be paralysis.
It turns out I’m not psychic though , because I never in my wildest dreams would have imagined this degree of paralysis.
It seems the puppet masters have been ensnared in the web of their own strings.
It makes sense , in hindsight.
“Puppet Masters” Classic Heinlein.
Hmmm, Epstein?
The Epstein revelations didn’t deal with children, but with teenaged girls.
That is why you are allowed to talk about them.
No, John, much worse.
What the media called “Pizzagate” (among other things, no doubt).
Child sex-trafficking among elites.
The circumstantial evidence for the DC ring with Podesta and co. was rather copious.
Hey KA most of your posting was in the wee hours of the morning ~ nice to see you mixing it up here during the day. What changed?
Somehow, this really doesn’t surprise me. I read recently that child sex trafficking is a $150 billion a year business in the US; that’s not the hoi polloi spending that kind of money.
Joe Biden protected Clarence Thomas and shepherded him into the Supreme Court.
He defended his own. There is no bigger pervert than Joe Biden.
What the…??
Joe Biden TRASHED Clarence Thomas.
I remember those confirmation hearings quite vividly. I was APPALLED at Joe Biden’s hateful viciousness against Clarence Thomas in those hearings, and have despised Joe Biden ever since.
I stand corrected. I was vague on the memory.
But Joe Biden is an asshole to everyone.
The world is being whipped into a frenzy. Who is doing the whipping and why?
Fingers on the triggers are given guns and marching orders. Marching orders come down from the highest levels of organizations. The highest levels receives directives from the powers that be.
Someone with ability to direct violence and marshal troops globally wants war. And not just any war by the looks of it.
Israelis, Hamas, Iran, America, Jews, Muslims, Christians…whatever. Erase the names and labels. Human beings are killing and being killed with an intent to ramp the ever more killing on a massive scale globally.
Why? Who benefits? Good people?
Global depop. is indeed multi-faceted and modern warfare is the most effective method of depop. You’ve got the explosions and gun-fire itself and then a deluge of trickle-down effects like disease and localized anarchy.
The Four Horsemen have finished their breakfast.
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Who took out the Georgia Guidestones on 7/6/22?
Plus lots of traumatized and maimed survivors! What’s not to love?
In my defense, I didn’t know her name was Georgia. It was only a “one nighter”. Pray for me?
The organizers and controllers of global financial capital (OCGFC) want their democide, and the Covid shots are not killing off people fast enough. WW3 oughtta do it.
leohohmann.com/2023/10/26/why-are-western-leaders-so-eager-to-go-to-war-with-nuclear-armed-russia-and-china-its-about-depopulation-stupid/
Yes, this.
Who benefits?
Who is not involved but benefits from this proxy war, especially if the US through Syria gets involved?
My vote is BRICS++, our real adversary in the world.
China is in favor of the Palestinians, Russia and Iran, another current BRICS++ joinee, are collaborating, their real target is the US. They are pulling the MIC, neocon trick in reverse, let others do the fighting for them. Their goal, getting the US into the fight.
Biden is an enemy of the US with everything that is going on right now. His family and Mob are all heavily invested in the whole BRICS++ side, both financially and politically. Ukraine keeps Russia busy, Dems favorite foe, and China, well, there is China. Better believe there are negotiations concerning the fate of Taiwan going on, my guess is that Taiwan will vote itself into joining China. I wonder how many US companies are deserting this ship currently. I know Taiwan Semiconductors are setting up shop in Phoenix.
The R in BRICS++ is going to negotiate a deal soon with Ukraine, ensuring its security from NATO, or IOW the EU and the USA, the West. Guess who may lose here? I will guarantee the Mob is doing whatever it can to maintain autonomy over Ukraine, much to the detriment of the Ukrainian people. Zelensky should be shot, but I will bet his digs in the US are already picked out.
BRICS++ vs. the WEST. Everything is moving in this direction. The Ukrainians and the Palestinians and IDF are unfortunate victims in the big power struggle.
BTW, Soros has claimed credit for financing the Palestinian protests in the USA. I remember he advertised and paid for the Virginia and BLM riots. Why can’t the government stop them, father and now son?
Because they, the government want them to tear this country apart.
BRICS++ vs the West. Is this actually a race war?
Are the darks of the world ganging up on the white West? Will the European human element be torn down by a coalition of Dark skinned people? BTW, Russia is an exception to this as the animosity between the Europeans and Russia forgets that Russia is white, at least the side west of the Urals. Russia is an anomaly.
Will the race war become the pathway to domination by the Chinese? I would lay money on the bet that is Beijing’s plan.
I think you grant the Chinese wisdom nowhere in evidence. But they’re at least smart enough to stay out of the way so far while the US destroys the last remaining vestiges of its credibility.
Well, Jimmy, is it Chinese wisdom or US stupidity? Or both?
Both, but I think their “wisdom” is being expressed as cautious wait and see, not by meddling. Never interfere while your opponent is busy shooting himself in the foot and all that.
Israel benefits (maybe) if we’re stupid enough to go to war for them. It depends if we win of course.
Palestine, Israel, the middle east in general is and has always been a quagmire. A no win situation. Let them fight it out to the death. What to do about the oil. I don’t know. Alternative fuels not ready for prime time.
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Why Mr Kunstler allows so many jerks to speak their mind on HIS website I will never understand. Most of them are trolls or perma contrarians. They are mean spirited losers empowered by their web anonymity.
I would hazard a guess that JHK firmly believes in the First Amendment. In fact, to me that seems self-evident.
It is a shame that you will “never understand” the First Amendment because it is one of the highest achievements and practices of mankind’s entire history.
God bless Mr K for hosting this public square!
doc’s not real quick on the uptake, but he tries real hard.
I’m empowered by the security of my mommies basement. God bless mommies everywhere.
Mr. Kunstler may be gathering “intelligence.”
Do ya think?
“Egypt, Jordan, Syria, will not take them.”
I can all but guarantee that the USA will take a few hundred thousand no questions asked. We’ll surely pay other countries to take them also. We’re overdue for a homeland attack. Something along a “Day of Wrath” type as spelled out by William Forstchen in the novelette by the same name.
I say, “give the Palestinians everything from River to Sea and give the Israelis New York City for entertainment and Florida for agriculture”.
Oh wait, I forgot we’ve already given NYC and Florida away. Apologies, my bad.
Yeah, BRIC++ vs, the West, homeland style.
Cannot anyone realize that the thing that has saved the US from all the wars that have torn the world apart is its isolation. The isolation that has been protected by the tenets of the Monroe Doctrine.
Well, folks, that isolation is being eaten away by the Dark immigration that is changing America and Europe into Dark countries.
BRICS++ vs, the West, heck why fight war, just absorb them.
Ukraine and Israel are both West proxies.
I believe the divergence of the blog and of the country in general is the result of BRICS++ winning the unfought war.
“We control the United States.”
Netanyahu
Jordan already kicked them out, after they used terrorism to try to overthrow the government and kill the king, back in the 70s.
Syria still has them, but they allied with the terrorists when the US-backed attacks on Syria started in 2011.
I don’t know about Egypt.
“Israel … has installed over 600,000 settlers in the West Bank, said to be in violation of international agreements.” Said?
We have long known that Israel is the blind spot of our host on this forum and that not sharing it invites banishment, but I’ll try – politely – anyway.
Dictionary definitions of “Zionism” do not acknowledge the underlying fact that Israel is controlled by racist radicals whose true Zionist agenda is realizing their cherished goal of a “Greater Israel,” for which many maps can be found online. It would consume about half of the Middle East.
Zoltar — That’s scurrilous propaganda. There’s no evidence of that from anyone close to the center of power in Israel — JHK-Admin
That map and that goal have a great deal in common with the Neocons’ “Project For The New American Century,” which calls for and has already largely achieved the goal of destroying and then confiscating the resources of seven Middle Eastern Countries. For the Neocons, Iran is to be the crown jewel of this project. The Zionists particularly covet the water resources of Lebanon, and much else besides.
Setting aside the past behavior of ”settlers” which might be regarded by a reasonable person as having forfeited the world’s good will toward Israel, both the radicals who actually control Israel and the American Neocons with their grand “Project” are the real threat to stability and peace in the Middle East and beyond.
Most of the world has tried to look the other way as the US and Israel continued to behave as the rogue nations of the world. It appears that they are now realizing that they need to stop doing so.
While I think this is not only JHK’s worst CFN piece ever in relative terms, but bad in absolute terms, I do give him credit for allowing comments here. (At least the ones I see).
The US and Israel are not going to stop. I believe Israel is going physically remove all Palestinians from Gaza by killing them, making their life so unbearable they give up and leave. And the West Bank will follow.
This will make the divisions in the world much sharper, and set us up for WW3, at which time Israel will be Jewish.
The Israelis will have a brief victory lap, and celebrate the riddance of the Palestinians.
The monstrosity of this crime (well, the completion of the commission of this crime, to be precise, it’s ongoing, this is now the final act), will unite much of the “rest of the world”. The non-west, were people are hungry, not soft, and they now can make not only weapons, but hi-tech (where do those “Apple” iPhones come from again?)
The “Greater Israel” maps you refer to, I’ve seen an old one that shows Israel as being from the Med to the Tigris-Euphrates valley. I think that whole region will mark the final battle field of WW3, Armaggedon.
Yes, the Palis of Suez will be the Bashi-Bazouks (Turkish term), the Beserkers of the Final Jihad led by the Mahdi himself.
Once the shield wall is taken down by treachery, they will ride the worms right into Jerusalem itself. They are the Free men or Fremen.
This is not going to be The New American Century by any measure possible. BRICS++ is curtailing American neocons, the Saudis for example. The re-division of the Arabs from negotiations with Israels is a victory dance for the PTB in BRICS++. US Influence is declining and it is accelerating. The 21st century is going to be the rise of the “rest of the world”, not the US.
Is Biden a progenitor of this movement or a victim?
Figure head of who? If he is just representing someone, he is a progenitor.
Jimmy, here is the deal as I see it. Biden’s Mob is interested in promoting the WEF into the NWO with climate change, virus control, global governance, etc.
Problem is the real war is between the WEF and BRICS++. So why are we supporting China all the time? Biden family jewels? Oil?, possession of the African resources?, cobalt? Lithium?
Who exactly is fighting whom? I do not believe the US Mob has a clue.
Another “lost comment.” I’ve counted three so far.
Supporting China? We’re nearly at war with them too now, or haven’t you heard? You sure do repeat a lot of unfounded conjecture, JohnAZ.
“You sure do repeat a lot of unfounded conjecture, JohnAZ.”
Spot on!
If only it were scurrilous propaganda.
“We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.” David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff.
“There are a few hundred thousand Negroes but that is a matter of no significance.” The British authorities to Chaim Weizman on the subject of the Palestinians prior to 1948.“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves…politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.” Speech by David Ben-Gurion, 1938, quoted in Zionism and the Palestinians by Simha Flapan, 1979.
The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates. It includes parts of Syria and Lebanon. Rabbi Fischmann, member of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, in his testimony to the U.N. Special Committee of Enquiry, 1947.
“A partial Jewish State is not the end, but only the beginning. I am certain that we can not be prevented from settling in the other parts of the country and the region.” David Ben Gurion, in a letter to his son, 1937.
“We and they [the Palestinians] want the same thing: we both want Palestine. And that is the fundamental conflict.” David Ben-Gurion, 1936.”“After we become a strong force as the result of the creation of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine.” – David Ben-Gurion.
“It’s not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.” – Ben Gurion.”
Cherry on cake:
“”I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I’ve killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do.” Ariel Sharon, In an interview with General Ouze Merham, 1956.”
Just a sampling
Note Islander’s documentation, below. I stand by my preceding statement.
Israel is controlled today by racist extremists among the ultra orthodox. Their ilk have made it clear many times that they regard non-Jews as subhuman, just as the Nazis once regarded them.
The widow of the late Sheldon Adelson continues her husband’s purchase of key members of Congress, and Israel’s influence upon American foreign policy is correspondingly great.
C’mon now Jim. That Jews should have a right to a homeland is and has been a fatuous meme, believed mostly in the USA since Israel’s recognition, and it resonates nicely. But there’s always been a problem and that’s the fact that implementation of that homeland flies in the face of other values we hold. That would be the idea that a “homeland” in this case involves a democratic state whose freedoms and privileges are reserved exclusively for members of a particular ethno-religious group while others living in the same landscape are consigned to Helot status, a status they’re denied any opportunity to escape from, not them nor their descendants. We, in the west destroyed South Africa as a first world nation, precisely because white South Africans were trying to do the same thing. Israel could solve all its problems by becoming a multi-confessional country, but doing so would would deprive Israeli Jews of their special status as citizens of the “Jewish State”.
But that’s the rub, isn’t it? The eternal volatility of that region is directly derivative of an arrangement for living that’s unfair and always will be.
Then there’s the small problem of American guilt for allowing “the Holocaust” to go on for so long. You see, we didn’t give 2 sh!ts about the Jewry of Europe until it became a good cover story for our involvement (after the fact).
I don’t recall ever hearing an FDR speech that alluded to saving European Jewry from annihilation. Kinda like Lincoln and his regard for “the White Mans Burden” that is, no regard at all unless it was politically beneficial.
I read (probably on Unz) that it wasn’t until the US entered the war that the Germans decided to go ahead with the Holocaust.
Maybe, maybe not, but the timing is right.
The Germans didn’t “go ahead with the Holocaust.” That is, it wasn’t a nifty idea they had in their closet. They came up with the Final Solution to the Jewish Question in early 1942. That is why it was called “final.” Earlier “solutIons’ would not work in the new situation.
The new situation was the conquest of lands in eastern Europe that contained millions of Jews.
I suggest reading the Wannsee Protocol, of March 1942, to understand the “logic” of the Nazis’ “Final Solution to the Jewish Question” (Endloesung der Judenfrage)..
httpZ://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/wannsee.asp
Here:
I’ve read that nobody believed it at first. It was too monstrous. I mean, gas chambers and ovens? Really? Germans? And then when they did, saving Jews wasn’t the mission. The mission was defeating Germany.
There is one problem, of course, and that is the 6 million number. That number surfaced in discussions of dead Jews a number of times prior to the holocaust in Germany in various publications.
The Nazis killed a lot of Jews, but they killed a lot of people in general, particularly, gypsies, the disabled, and anyone who they felt were a burden to what they considered an ideal society.
My point, should it be unclear, is that the technique you are calling into question can and is applied to many situations where the truth can never be revealed–Covid being the most recent example.
There is no hard evidence for a virus, yet look how many not only believe it has to exist, but even more subjected themselves to some of the most absurd “safety” measures (devoid of all logic), and even went so far as to inject themselves with a product for which the informational package insert was left blank.
The mind reels.
It was that or the bleach…
“Trump told me to drink bleach”
—Cargill
Maybe seeing the shithole that SA has become is giving some pause that it’s maybe not the best idea to try to repeat it in the ME.
And the Jews seeing the multicultural paradise that SA has become (and the precarious state of Whites – kill the Boer, anyone?) are probably seeing that as a not the greatest idea either. The world is pissed I tell you, pissed, that the Yids aren’t docilely marching into the gas chambers this time around.
But the bigger issue for you dainties is that “taking” land is as old as walking on two feet. Every swinging dick on the planet is the descendant of colonists and occupiers. When the shooting war starts here, those believing there is some kind of international law that anybody will give a shit about are in for a really rude awakening.
Wasn’t it the Brits who killed the Boers?
Recent chant at a political rally in said shithole:
The political rally was winding down when the brash leader of a leftist South African party grabbed the microphone and began to stomp and chant. Thousands of supporters joined in, and when he reached the climax, they pointed their fingers in the air like guns.
“Kill the Boer!” Julius Malema chanted, referring to white farmers. The crowd in a stadium in Johannesburg on Saturday roared back in approval.
OK, I hadn’t heard of that recent use. I had heard of the use of it at the turn of the last century.
Yes, the Brits killed the Boers. Boer is the Dutch word for farmer, which is what these people mostly were.
Yeah Paula, cuz the Blacks never kill anyone.
More genius from the communist.
Early in its history, planet Earth– yes, the one over there, see it?– had no life on its surface.
It was eventually colonized with flora and fauna, biodiversity, and us.
Now, if the very first plant on the land, let’s say, cooksonia, because I like the name and it looks cool too, decided and successfully enforced that it was going to be the only occupant of the land ever, then we’d all be using the internet underwater right now.
Yeah, Whites are expendable. Hell it’s a good thing. The problem is that sometimes the Chosen get mistaken for Whites.
Ain’t you a peach?
Exploding Races
Did you ever manage to figure out what ‘race’ of your so-called ‘white’ race you are, Jarek?
If so, what is it? If not, can you offer us a ballpark estimate?
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“You might have more in common with some so-called ‘blacks’ than you do with some of your so-called ‘whites’.
Meanwhile, some of your so-called ‘blacks’ might have more in common with some of your so-called ‘whites’ than those whites do with you.
Then what do you do?
I mean, how do you stand, Jarek? Literally. What’s your structure? How would you describe it? Do you think some ‘blacks’ might echo it better than some ‘whites’? Are you ‘white’? Is your neck long or short? Are you pigeon-toed or bow-legged or what? Brown eyes? Blue? Green? What’s your taste in fashion? Music? Do you like button-down collared dress shirts? Turtleneck sweaters?” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/halloween-parable/#comment-834404
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“In any case, further along, I concede about what I might rather call ethnicity unless a good argument can be made for calling it race and/or until new offshoots cannot breed with the old anymore, and/or somethings like those.
But my concession is further qualified here and there in the threads with the idea that you can draw somewhat arbitrary lines/categories through many aspects of what makes a human being and then draw parallels in others based on those arbitrary categories. And so you have an explosion of ‘new’ races/categories/ethnicities that don’t necessarily have anything to do with ‘white’ or ‘black’ or ‘brown’.
And that’s probably part of what some scientists and others like me are talking about when they say that race is a social construct.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/halloween-parable/#comment-834476
The race of men who wear turtlenecks and who have bowed legs. it works! It works!
Just like no Saber Tooth was exactly like another Sabert Tooth. Therefore? There were no Saber tooths. Each moment is completely unique. The universe is recreating itself every second as the Sufis say. Just so women – making it all up as they go along.
Son, that big furry thing comin this way has nothing to do with whatever big furry thing that killed your ma, and brother. Don’t be prejudiced. If we treat it right, it’ll probably treat us right (with hot sauce!)
So what race of the ‘white’ race are you?
Better still, perhaps, what race of that race of the ‘white’ race are you?
Do your knees knock or thighs rub a little when you walk?
What does you ass look like? How would you describe it?
Do you smoke? Do you bite your nails? Don’t be shy.
This is how Tribals talk. You gotta be! The hatred is white hot.
Remember though, race is a social construct.
We’re all fundamentally tribal, so that’s a non-starter. Question is which.
“Remember though, race is a social construct.” ~ Jarek
It is and it isn’t: The question is where you draw your categories. I’ve already mentioned that. I also mentioned overlap and blurring where your ‘whites’ and ‘blacks’ are concerned.
…And that’s probably part of what some scientists and others like me are talking about when they say that race is a social construct.
I agree strongly with your 3rd paragraph. That is why I like to remind people that “might makes right.”
It might.
Gee Erik, I think you are right. Remember the colonial past, when the technologically advanced West, Europe, cashed in on all the resources of the world. Aren’t we just continuing colonialism today as we want more oil, lithium, cobalt, rubber etc. as cheaply as possible? Wasn’t the formation of the US a reaction of a bunch of colonial servants to the British Empire? Since then hasn’t the US been a bastion of colonialism on our own continent with Manifest Destiny the rallying cry.
The US is about to get it up the kazoo by all the servile forces of the world. Biden’s leadership is facilitating the changes.
The Blacks weren’t in South Africa before the Whites. The Bushmen and Khoi peoples were – people who always been treated horribly by the Blacks.
Hot n Tots maybe as well?
Yeah, I think they’re both called “Khoisan”, not completely sure.
Some say that this general people were in all of Southern Africa and that the Bushmen were a small or “dwarf” type adapted for the harsh conditions of the desert.
We’re all out of ‘Africa’ apparently.
” Note to Mr Kunstler: stop being “ fair” to assholes ”
Hee Hee.
I could have been the first post today ,
but I was scared.
Lol.
Here’s an idea. Since the whole premise of Israel is based on a promise from God himself that that land would be forever the home of the son’s of Abraham, then perhaps with todays technological DNA screening we could allow anyone with a certain threshold of Semite genes the right to citizenship. If you come from genetic stock that married into or converted to Judaism or Muslim centuries latter then you must get in line for visa’s/citizenship based on whatever the country wants.
The state of Israel is a European country with little middle eastern roots. In the BRIC++ vs, West war, it is the only Western country in the region. Hamas has succeeded in stopping the negotiations between SA, Qatar, and UAE with Israel. That is a win for BRICS++.
Israel has probably absorbed al the Jews of the Middle East, but Europe was the source of most of them.
Just think of what is happening right now historically. If Ukraine and Israel lose, the US is finished on the world scene, along with its allies in Europe.
Worth fighting for?
“Israel has probably absorbed al the Jews of the Middle East, but Europe was the source of most of them.”
That was the point of my idea. I think the Zionists Scott Ritter went off on has more to do with the spread via all out media blitz these past 50 years of God chose this land for us, further propagated by evangelists such as Hagee than as a diatribe against all Jews in general. But at the end of the day, I say stay the hell out of it and stop sending the $30k per man, woman and child we sent to each citizen of Israel via support. If they want to exterminate all the Palestinian’s, it’s not my fight. I ,as a US citizen am more concerned with the Muslim world taking it out on my country due to it’s largess to Israel.
And you should be.
Jimmy Word seems to think that the USA should be destroyed, so I wonder if he is an American?
Our lives will never be the same after these wars, much like 9/11.
Nope. After “these wars” are over it is likely the USA will lose acess to imported petroleum. That means the automobile culture will fall upon very hard times. People who have their lives centered around cars may discover that their “god” has died. What to do after that – after circumstances force the US into making lifestyle changes that leave everyone bitter, angry, and confused. Why is gasoline being rationed? Why can’t I have my gas?
It will be the biggest temper tantrum we have ever seen in our lives.
BLM has nothing on the way the car devotees will react when the gas stations are empty.
Jimmy Word thinks the US – the DC kleptocracy – is busy destroying itself. And 9/11 was a false flag. You really need to pull your head out, JohnAZ.
JW
Much like 9/11?
Yes, our lives changed a lot because of 9/11, regardless of how it happened.
Now please remove your own cranius invertus.
“One is the practical question of where that Palestinian State would be…”
And then it goes, “blah, blah and blah” to me. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
I have no desire to understand, comprehend and wrestle with this continual tribal “conflict”.
It’s grotesque in more ways than one and I am one of those Americans who just doesn’t care.
A normal reaction by-the-way – to care more about my country than another.
Sure “Jihad” could happen though if it does you can be certain it’s helped along by the U.S. Intel/Deep State apparatus which is our real enemy.
Uhhh,
What happens if Ukraine and Israel are chalked up as victories by BRICS++? Have you even considered what the effect on you might be if the US is relegated to third world status?
That effect will be inevitable either way. The US is virtually third world as we speak, most have just not woken up to that fact. It’s a process first, a destination second.
Have you even visited the third world? The US is not even close to third world status,
YET.
One of the best ways I know of to visit the “third world” in a virtual sense is to follow the adventures of a motorcyclist traveling alone and wandering about taking video of what one will see and experience in the “third world”. It’s the you tube channel “Itchy Boots”. Third world is not such a bad way to live and in some ways it is better than 1st world. 3rd world mostly horrifies the average citizen of Europe or USA due to what they’ll see as “discomforts”.
Many times.
Yikes.
And there are other channels where the reporter travels through that world (South Sudan, Nigeria, Venezuela), and shows videos and interviews of families of eight who live eight to a tattered tent and sleep on three soaked and mouldy mattresses. Then when they awake, they’re greeted by teens looking to steal their yams-for-a-day to trade for drugs.
Not such a bad way, indeed.
Then we can talk about the medical system. Doctors are worked to death and paid shit, which is why well over 90% of African doctors who first get their shingle emigrate to the U.S., Canada, or other 1st world country who’ll take them.
John’s right. And also right to add “YET”.
John spent time in the navy, literally going around the world. I was so glad to get back to America.
@JohnAZ: “The US is not even close to third world status,YET.” John, a third world country trying to become a first world country might have a different look and vibe than a first world country on its way to a third world country? Rome didn’t fall in a day?
Your world view is cartoonish at best JohnAZ.
There’s lots of third world going on a few blocks from here called downtown Portland. See any major “blue” U.S. city.
Also, last I checked BRICS was an Economic Trade Organization and barely that at this point. They have no currency or military force. Their internal trading and organization is nascent at best.
Why would BRICs claim victory in these “military conflicts” when the point is to be outside of the current world order?
They’re just watching the West destroy itself and so they don’t have to say a peep.
Sanity at last from the Democrat. Maybe there is hope.
Yes, what about OUR side? Of course she doesn’t know who we are. But sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. I celebrate this victory, be it ever so small.
“What a moment to be leaderless!”
Someone pointed out that no matter what Republicans we vote for, we get John McCain (regarding the new Speaker). I can’t remember who said it to attribute it.
I also can’t remember who said John McCain is controlling Lindsay Graham from Hell.
We aren’t leaderless, our leaders are in Hell.
Trump showed everyone the system can’t be changed from the inside. It’s either collapse, or the nukes fly, or both. Newsom is already negotiating to make CA a Chinese colony.
Isn’t there a law against Newsom going to China on his own?
Oh yeah, I forgot. The laws do not apply to Democrats.
Seal the borders and cue Covid-24 into Gaza. Simple.
Good point. If the Israelis really wanted to genocide the Palestinians, they could just release a bioweapon into the place.
The Israeli government may not want to “genocide the Palestinians”
But, it wants them gone.
The optics of killing them all are bad. Even in the US, it would look pretty bad–genocide plus economic depression could be a BIG lift for all of “Israel’s allies”.
That’s why they’ve only destroyed 45-50% of the structures according to some Arab news accounts. Now, 45-50% is a lot–but I think they could have taken out many more.
They (the Israeli government) prefer not literally kill the all the Palestinians. But they want them “removed”.
That means those who don’t leave and decide to stay behind are “terrorist accomplices” and need to be “neutralize”.
You’ll see. Gaza first, West Bank next.
Today’s missive brings to mind the scene from “Blazing Saddles” where Cleavon Little’s character holds a gun to his own neck and declares “The next man makes a move the nigger get’s it” followed by the chararacter of a politician assuring the crowd, “Hold it men, he’s not bluffing”. A voice from the crowd cries out, “He’s just crazy enough to do it”.
there is a video of a Palestinian child, a little girl crying,- “I want my momma”
i hear Lonnie Mack singing “You got to reap just what you sow, that old sayin is true”. Further On Up the Road – 1965
Honey, look over the fence, it’s time to mow the lawn again.
“Out damned spot”
“Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam”
I like to look at the strategic side of things and the “New World Order” of Bush I and Ii that is being upended. Erdogan had a lot to say the last few days, including threats to attack Israel. Can you imagine the NATO conundrum with that one? I’d say NATO has unraveled. It’s done.
Now imagine Turkey, instead of attacking Israel, suddenly decides to ally with China. That would change the entire picture in the Middle East and in Ukraine. Checkmate. Erdogan is in the catbird seat.
Last time Erdogan wouldn’t do what he was told (condemn the Russians), there was an earthquake, out of the blue, with unusual characterstics.
What are you saying, GA? 100 & Gus have already firmly established here on CFN that DEWs are crazy talk! They knew that immediately after Lahaina 8/8 had temps hot enough to burn and melt everything except the vegetation and the plastic.
Wait! What?
Newsom caught wind that the Chinese stole the earthquake machine tech from DARPA.. He made an emergency trip to China in an attempt to save California. XI laughed at him.” Why would I do that, California is our new model for the USA.”
I had actually forgotten that. Crazy how fast the news changes these days.
GA, Erdogan had raised the rhetoric with Greece and was on the verge of taking some kind of provocative action, like trying to blockade a Greek island, or perhaps occupying an uninhabited Greek island.
Turkey is an irredentist country, and Erdogan has not been shy about recreating a modern Ottoman Empire.
Even Erdogan’s speech/tirade against the Israeli bombing this past Saturday, Oct 28, was oriented toward that direction. In his speech, he made a point to say how “great” things had been in Palestine under the Turks, but also, the Balkans, the Eastern Mediterranean coast and even Crimea!
The quake, which killed MANY times more Turks than the Israelis have (so far) killed Palestinians, forced Turkey to reduce the bellicose rhetoric, as well as bellicose actions, like overflying Greek Islands temporarily, as the homeless Turks probably could care less about taking Greek islands and wanted help, and there was an election coming up.
That earthquake may have prevented a war. Also, it did a of damage to southern Turkey.
S-D – I’m not a fan of Erdogan and his aspirations, but thanks for the info. about Greece. Not sure if you’re agreeing it was likely a HAARP project and justifying it, if so.
I personally do NOT believe this earthquake was induced by man.
I think it was a natural disaster, an act of God.
There is lots of nefarious scheming going on, and a lot that (I think) we do not know, so I suppose anything is possible.
Some Turks say the Americans did it so Erdogan would not be re-elected. If that was so, I’d say it backfired.
And I know this may sound outlandish, but I think this Turkish irredentism is going to backfire. There is a lot of pent-up anger in the world, and a lot of intractable problems. This is NOT a good time to be coloring outside the lines.
Turkey has some internal political/ethic/social fault lines. The elections Erdogan won, he appears to have won–but the “Red/Blue” divide by county province is even sharper than the US. Erdogan was trounced in the “rich Mediterranean coast”.
The global elites and other world leaders (BRICS) also have big egos and HATE uncertainty and unpredictability. I think they will take their anger out on the Turks.
The US/West will grab/control the rich Mediterranean coast and the straits, to keep the Russians out, and the Russians will be the mid-wife for Kurdistan, which will be beholden to Russia, and together with an expanded Armenia, give Russia direct access to Syria.
It will look eerily reminiscent of the map of the “secret” Sykes-Picot agreement in 1915, while WW1 was going on, to break up the Ottoman Empire and divide Turkey amongst the Western powers.
(and in 1915, Greeks were still a plurality in much of what is now Western Turkey/European Turkey).
I know it sounds outlandish. But I think in the future, you’ll see this happen, and it will “sharpen” the sides, West vs East.
Interesting – thanks, S-D.
NATO= the West’s defense=the US wanting to avoid fighting in Europe anymore.
BRICS++ is going to bring down NATO and the West by infiltration and capitulation. Israel and Ukraine are just the beginning.
Yes, for the past 34 years, there has only been one game in town – the American game. It’s so reflexive for our defense establishment that they’ve lost the ability to consider the unintended consequences of their actions. But times have changed. Hegemony is over.
For years, I’ve been amazed at the self-righteous cluelessness of our foreign-policy establishment. Their supposed job is to UNDERSTAND other nations and cultures, right? I mean, you can’t make policy to deal with things you don’t have some understanding of.
But to the contrary, our State Dept. “experts” seem to actually take PRIDE in how LITTLE they know about anything outside U.S. borders — hell, anything outside the D.C. Beltway!
They are the most small-minded, unimaginative, mentally lazy people on earth. They won’t even exercise a little human imagination to try to conceive of how other people, on the other side of the world, with completely different life experiences and value systems, might look at the world. Indeed, they appear to not even have any interest in learning.
Crucially, since most of these snobbish morons in the State Dept. have no religious beliefs or community ties, they assume that nobody else does either. They idiotically deny the REALITY and the priority of religion and community for the majority of the world’s people.
So, we repeatedly see huge world developments taking these boobs completely by surprise.
Yup!
I’m sure we’re all so glad that we now have BRICS++ to occupy ol’ JohnAZ, rather than hi previous, badly shop-worn tropes of Trump & ‘stupidification”.
Erdogan likes to play both sides. He’s two-faced like that.
He will have to make a decision once and for all, though, when the US tries to send warships through the Straits of Bosporus.
Either he caves to the US, seriously damaging his relationships with Russia, or he upholds the Montreux Convention, seriously damaging his relationship with the US.
Which will he pick?
That TV show that I have been watching sometimes, Servant of The People, has an episode where two of the corrupt oligarch types are having an argument and one calls the other “chosen person” as a pejorative.
I think the mocking reference to God’s chosen people above demonstrates something that has a lot to do with people’s attitudes toward Jews in general than many people realize.
There is a weird form of resentment, almost a form of sibling rivalry, against a group of people who call themselves chosen, and exclude others from their group.
Yes I know, people can and do convert, but that was not always the case.
How many other religions consider themselves “a people”?How many desire a theocratic homeland?
Yes, I know about the Irish. The difference is Ireland is not the homeland of the Catholics.
Jews are different, in that way, and a lot of the hatred directed toward them comes from that difference.
What annoys the shit out of me is that we lost Jerusalem , the West Bank , Gaza , and all that , 800 years ago.
The sky sure is taking a long time to fall.
So to keep the story going that the sky is going to fall in five minutes ,
pretend the Book of Revelation isn’t a Catholic book , when it is ,
and pretend the Bible mentions the United States , when it never does.
Is America the New Babylon? | Matt Chandler
youtube.com/watch?v=OtvGjgOHokU
2 minutes.
When the New Testament was being assembled into the official and authorized version, the Book of Revelation just barely made it in. Some church scholars didn’t want that book included. It’s basically a dream interpretation. Dreams can be notoriously difficult to understand and they can sometimes be legitimately interpreted in multiple and in differing ways.
Your first sentence is puzzling. “We lost Jerusalem?” Who is “we”. What was lost? Are you writing about the Crusades?
Yes.
Myself ; Catholic Christian.
These others running around crying the sky is going to fall ( and doing so pretty much my whole life ) ;
Some hybrid identity I have never wholly fathomed.
Peasantry, you never had it in the 1st place.
The theme of the USA is that diversity is good, that everyone is equal, that there is room for all.
So where the hell is all the anti-semitism coming from?
Or the white black hatred?
Or the have, have not hatred?
Is the real deal here that the US is a pipe dream held together by Wag the Dog mechanisms? Is that why, with no war to unite us, we are falling apart?
I will bet Las Vegas is betting on BRICS++>
BRICS is commodity-based. That is real money.
US$ is fiat (and not even good for ass-wipe).
The smart money will become commodity-based lest they lose it all one day.
OG
The really stupid thing is that the Deep State handed it to them on a silver platter.
Ever think that the USA is no longer needed by the world and that the King of the mountain is about to be deposed?
The really sickening part of it is that the King is destroying itself.
The Deep State will continue to spend, spend, spend trying to control the electorate until something stops it.
Whatever that will be.
“Whatever that will be.” – It ain’t no “whatever”. It’s farily simple to predict what will happen. They’ll spend spend spend and borrow borrow borrow until the dollar is completely and totally rejected worldwide as a very unstable and devaluing medium of exchange.
Other nations selling us stuff will stop accepting dollars and demand some other type of currency for trade to happen. Once the dollar is good only for trade inside US borders the resulting chaos will put an end to all US activities abroad. Our bases everywhere else in the world will close and US troops will all be going home – the resources to support them will no longer exist with a broken and dead dollar. At some point everyone in the former USA begins to understand that it’s over – that there really is no more United States. Instead it’s a disorganized and disunitied collection of confused and individual states trying as best they can to keep a resemblence of civilized living continuing in North America.
When travel ceases due to loss of access to motor fuels and communications break down, North America will become a huge place once again covering impossibly vast distances. Going to California might be the same grand adventure it was in the mid 1800’s. It could be an effort taking months and involving some physical peril and discomfort. Since future living conditions will be no better or even worse than south or central America, most all of the “illegal aliens” in North America will go back home to whatever country they left.
The USA will end just as the old Soviet Union ended – and for a lot of the very same reasons – at least that’s Dimitri Orlov’s view of our future. We’ll know before too long if he has been correct in all his writings about the collapse of the West.
“Once the dollar is good only for trade inside US borders the resulting chaos will put an end to all US activities abroad. Our bases everywhere else in the world will close and US troops will all be going home – the resources to support them will no longer exist…”
Hog,
Do you feel that the US government has no other options to gather whatever wealth is needed, in whatever currency is in vogue, to conduct foreign trade? Food, energy, gold timber, minerals?
Everything will be available, it will just cost more.
Groundhog, elysianfield
If the dollar unravels quickly, to your point, the resources to return US troops home may be in short supply.
And that does not bode well for US troops left behind.
@ elysianfield:
Your question, “Do you feel that the US government has no other options to gather whatever wealth is needed, in whatever currency is in vogue, to conduct foreign trade?” got me to thinking–mainly about the US government’s survival, since, on the surface at least, that seems to depend on the survival of the currency.
The death of a country’s currency isn’t exactly unprecedented, so we should be able to get a fair idea of what happens to the government after that. I don’t keep up on the state of affairs in Venezuela or Zimbabwe, but it looks like the governments of thoses places still exist. I don’t know what they’re running on–or, to put it another way, what they’re using to pay their cops and military or how they’re filling up the tank in the imperial sedan. If somebody here knows, I’d appreciate it if they’d tell us.
I suppose one thing the government could do in that situation would be to “nationalize” any national resources or private enterprises and sell them to foreign nations for some foreign currency that still had value. That’s what I’d expect the US government to do, and that exactly what the government officials in the former USSR did.
As for governments “conducting foreign trade,” the thing to remember here is that governments don’t conduct trade. Private enterprises conduct trade. Even when a nation’s currency becomes worthless, private individuals will find a way to conduct trade.
I was watching a Martin Armstrong video awhile back, and he mentioned that Japan had no national currency–for literally 600 years. That was because, in earlier times, whenever a new emperor took over, he issued new currency and devalued the old currency to one-tenth its former value. After that happened a couple of times, the Japanese refused to accept Japanese coin–for 600 years. Instead, they used Chinese coins or bags of rice for currency.
You can’t get foreign currency unless you sell something of value to that country, and they pay you with that currency.
That is why the petrodollar has kept the US in charge of the world for the last 50 years.
Every country in the world has had to sell their resources and/or labor to get dollars, so that they can buy oil.
When that is gone, the US will have to sell something, and it no longer makes anything but weapons, and now the world knows those weapons suck.
Anthea may be right, it’s down to the resources of the US.
We already do export topsoil and water, in the form of alfalfa, wheat, soy and corn.
That’s going to run out also, though,
@ Paula D:
I was thinking less in terms of corn, soybeans, alfalfa, wheat, and water, and more in terms of major industries, energy resources, mineral resources, and agricultural land. E.g., Zelensky has sold a lot of Ukrainian land to Monsanto, Blackstone, et al. I’m not sure what the former USSR sold off to the oligarchs.
To me, it seems like we are witnessing (and living through) the deliberate destruction of the US by those who have an eye to asset-stripping it, as in the old USSR.
Anthea,
Well…yes and no. Private enterprise conducts international trade, but at the sufferance of the government. The mechanism of payment, currently the dollar, will be converted to a mutually agreed upon fungible instrument. America still has incredible wealth.
But the dollar, having lost reserve currency status, will float on the exchanges…daily variations can produce another level of uncertainty that can drive prices up. If the dollar tanks completely, exchanges will center around commodities.
“BRICS is commodity-based. That is real money.”
The problem is there is no currency tied to their commodities.
At this point they are just a brand.
It will take time before they can create a currency and if they do it doesn’t mean it destroys other internal currencies with its existence.
Things don’t work that way.
So go ahead a wipe your ass with $USD but currently you can earn 5% on your savings. That’s why it isn’t going away anytime soon.
Economics isn’t currency. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Yes, Anthea, except that it started in the 80s, and was called “out-sourcing”.
That is when the major industrial manufacturers moved to places with cheaper labor and no safety regulations.
All that is left of our industrial capacity is old factories kept going with duct tape and worker ingenuity, as far as I know, and Wall Street is fond of asset stripping even those older enterprises.
Like the NWO, proclaimed in 1991 by George H. W. Bush, but continually thought to be in the future, Americans tend to ignore the last 40 years, and think the plunder is all in the future.
Stepping over the bodies of the homeless, and seeing the boarded-up storefronts on Main Street, and now the empty malls, should remind us all that the main looting has already been done.
That was for Anthea. Don’t know how it got here.
You believe that diversity is good? That everyone is equal? That there is room enough for all?
Many do – the fools.
Homogeneity, both racial and cultural, is the real strength.
die veristy
Did you pick that up from the kids in the sandbox earlier today?
Genetic diversity can help protect a species from going extinct.
Furthermore, biodiversity in general is where it’s at, otherwise, why not have just cooksonia on the entire face of the terrestrial landmass.
The Jews are God’s chosen people because of Abraham’s obedience, not because they’re special people.
No real Christian can believe that. The Jews that accepted Christ became the first Christians, the obedient of God. Christians are the Chosen People now.
The Puritans believed they were the Chosen People. So it’s deep in American history. The Politically Correct believe that they are in an utterly perverse, secular way.
White Nationalists (some of them) believe that Whites are because only Whites respect the Image of God inside themselves enough to believe in Freedom of Speech, etc.
Is a real marriage forever? Or only until someone breaks the contract?
Well, according to scripture, Christianity is the New Covenant. I suppose a person could argue about whether the New Covenant voids the Old Covenant.
As best I can figure out, the promises made by God to his people in the Old Covenant were that, if they would abide by his statutes, they would live long and prosper, presumably in Israel, and that they would prevail against their enemies.
The New Covenant promises eternal life in heaven, to the faithful and humankind’s complete redemption from the Fall of Man. It doesn’t have much to say about worldly matters, beyond the expectation that they would be conducted in an honest, dutiful, and lawful way, and that generosity in our treatment of others in material matters would be paramount. (Basically, you still have to abide by the law as set forth in the Old Covenant.) The promised blessings are not necessarily material.
What many people don’t realize is that Jews don’t believe in an afterlife–at all. (Maybe Orthodox Jews do, but I know that Conservative and Reform Jews don’t.) One reason people don’t realize this is that such a view is almost inconceivable to a Christian.
There are conditions attached to both covenants. I can’t think of anything scriptural that would suggest that the Old Covenant is void–though, obviously, humans could break their side of the Covenant. It pertains only to worldly matters. The New Testament is pretty clear that obedience to the law is insufficient to attain eternal life in heaven–the idea being, I think, that no human could achieve perfect obedience to the law. Under the New Convenant, you can attain to the beatific vision in the afterlife. What that means is a level of happiness that is inconceivable to us humans. The afterlife itself is just a given, and failure to conform to the conditions of the New Covenant means that the afterlife could be unpleasant.
No, really? Adultery voids a contract. The Prophets were passionate: Israel is the bride. Israel committed adultery by cheating with false gods.
Christ extended the criticism deeper and wider. He said it was void. Do you believe him – even at the risk of being seen as “an anti-Semite”?
The new wine (teachings) could not be contained in the old wine skin. It would split them. Thus, “Soon you will be expelled from the synagogues. And they will considering killing you a good deed.”
A new wine skin or religion was needed, thus Christianity.
Mohammad agreed with much of this btw, Christ being considered a great prophet in Islam. No people were favored by God as much as the Jews were. All people get a prophet or two, but they had gotten so many! What did they do with what they had received? Did they become a light unto the nations?
God created us all, but chose the Jews because one man was willing to sacrifice his child a couple of millennia ago?: Stupidest myth ever. Tell me the one about the Tooth Fairy.
benr’s Abused-Fetus Anarchy
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The Man They Call Zazelle October 29, 2023 at 3:20 pm:
Somalia and Afghanistan are not in relative anarchy. So let’s not misrepresent them, shall we?
In fact, their State names you use says it all.
Anarchy doesn’t preclude gov’ts, BTW, just illegitimate/non-consentual ones.
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benr October 29, 2023 at 4:09 pm:
They are both in complete Anarchy!
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The Man They Call Zazelle October 29, 2023 at 4:53 pm:
benr, that’s the doublespeak version of anarchy.
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benr October 29, 2023 at 8:50 pm:
No it really is not.
Both countries are the definition of utter and complete Anarchy.
Not mincing words not engaged in double speak.
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benr…
Let’s be fair about this.
The ‘inverted totalitarian’ American empire just pulled out and apparently it was a bad pull-out.
If it’s ‘anarchy’ it’s a very initial form after a years-long corrupt-State occupation and therefore ‘distorted’ or ‘doublespoken-by-example’.
If it’s anarchy, it’s aroundabout fetal or infant in its development and injured by the State to boot.
Neither country has ever had a functioning government and has always been a series of warlords ruling over clans and at war with everyone for control IE complete anarchy.
Are you so obtuse you don’t understand this?
‘Ruling warlords’ is not anarchy. Are you so obtuse you don’t understand this?
its the very definition of anarchy.
Looks like the State really did a number on you.
When India left the British empire post WWII, the Indians had the sense to know that their large Muslim population was incompatible. Thus Pakistan was created, and while the two countries are antagonistic they haven’t started WWIII over it, and both countries have nuclear weapons.
Two state solution is the only answer. Two separate nations free to fuck up at their own discretion.
“Thus Pakistan was created, and while the two countries are antagonistic they haven’t started WWIII over it, and both countries have nuclear weapons.”
AO,
I would suggest that they haven’t started WWIII BECAUSE they both have nuclear weapons.
China and India have an agreement not to use lethal weapons on their disputed border.
Do you remember a couple of years ago, when tensions rose, and fighting commenced, and the mighty armies of China and India were throwing rocks at each other?
Einstein predicted that.
And the last major Sino-India war was in 1962. Several thousand dead, China won, but they used a lot of restraint, just being aggressive enough for India to wave the white flag.
Nehru was castigated internally for weakness, then both sides hashed out a few different lines on the map, and that was that.
Naw they are still fighting and throwing each other off cliffs.
I’m rooting for India.
No Paula, you got it wrong. He meant that for after nuclear war.
But yes, their respect for International Law is amazing.
I said that for ElsyianFields, and his theory that everybody having nuclear weapons is the path to peace.
Obviously, China and India skipped the using the nukes part, and that is a good thing.
Albert Einstein, one of the greatest physicists of all time, once said, “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” This quote dates back to the 1940s, when the first nuclear weapons were being developed.02 Einstein regretted the letter he wrote to President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1947, stating that he would never have lifted a finger if he had known that the Nazis would not succeed in producing an atomic bomb. Six years later, the bombs known as Little Man and Fat Boy were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, which accelerated the end of the Second World War but presaged the Cold War that dominated the latter half of the 20th century.1
Jarek: Yes, you were talking to Ely about Einstein. You got the Einstein part wrong, probably at least. Einstein seems to be talking about nuclear weapons, though he avoids saying so.
A State is rarely if ever a solution.
Usually, the State is a problem looking for a solution.
Like Israel.
The real problem Jordan WAS created to take the few ethnic Arab Muslims who were living in the area when Israel was partitioned.
That two state solution was already done, and a Hashemite king was set over them.
Everyone just ignores this simple fact.
The other reality with Pakistan and India in this the Hindu majority was sick and tired of hundreds of years of Muslims murdering hundreds of millions of Hindus and was busy fighting back. They were now doing to Muslims exactly what Muslims had been doing to them.
Both sides fled across the respective borders knowing if they did not, they would likely be rooted out and murdered.
Has anyone read or heard explanations of the “intelligence failure” in light of the various warnings? Could it be that Hamas was that competent in maintaining operational security? I can understand how a well-conceived and coordinated attack could overwhelm the IDF in immediate range of the border. And apparently the IDF admits to both underestimating their adversary and to deficiencies in the depth of their defenses. So maybe Hamas was in fact that competent — although where did the Egyptians get their information?
Given the timing of the attack — with all the diplomatic activity surrounding the Abraham accords, the rapproachment between Israel and the Saudis, the Saudi-Iran opening, Jake Sullivan declaring the region to be the most peaceful in 20 years (!) — one concludes that some entity wanted a different course of events. Clearly the Palestinians were the odd man out in all the above so perhaps Hamas realizing this decided to act on their own. Except for the fact that planning and logistics would have been in place for some time prior.
Tom Luongo’s latest podcast deals with the geopolitical architecture. No answers, just questions. The guest cited an as yet unverified assertion that a mother (a member of parliament) called her daughter at the rave on the day before the chaos to say “get out of there now an attack is coming.” Speaking of the rave, Larry Johnson noted that these types of event typically do not announce their location until a day or two before (this general rule has been verified). And the rave camped itself in the vicinity of the Kibbutz, which being armed, constituted a de facto military target. So as the paragliders descended they had an “oh shit!” moment when they landed in the midst of drugged revelry and wonderment.
Who knows? The question always remains: cui bono? Certainly not the Gazans themselves. Nor for that matter the Israelis — including the Likud types as well as of course those who are not on board with the Netanyahu way. AIPAC? Some deep differences have been revealed given the predictable reactions from the Ackmans and the Coopermans to the student protests. At least now the students know who is really in charge. Especially as politicians both Red and Blue stumble over themselves vying for the “Who is Most Pro-Israel” prize. (Nikki Haley has a commanding lead.) If CFN is any guide there is zero common ground.
So add another fissure to the pile. But back to cui bono. To think there are not malevolent interests at work in the world, that it’s all conspiracy nonsense is as much an act of faith as believing the Warren Commission Report — particularly in light of the on-going attempt to kill as many humans as possible on behalf of the public health systems.
Speaking of conspiracy nonsense, Scott Adams was being ridiculed for his bizarre theories about the shooter in Maine the other day. He made a prediction that the shooter’s body would be found near a dumpster.
This was from Adams on the 28th:
Me yesterday: “His body will be found near a dumpster.”
https://x.com/cliftonaduncan/status/1718245011966378297?s=20
What made him think that?
Something about that’s how these kinds of psy-ops work. I didn’t listen to his podcast, I just read some things that were being said about it.
https://x.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1717987543931867395?s=20
Scott Adams should never recover from his Covid days.
Guy is horrible.
Scott Adams tells it like it is. The guy pulls no punches. No holds barred.
He is not always right but he is always thought-provoking and entertaining.
Because he told the truth about American Blacks?
American ‘blacks’ with ‘white’ in them you mean?
Those kinds of the other kinds?
Ofc not, Jarek. That is something you would come up with. Low brow.
It is rather because he was a vehmenent clot-shot fascist, but then pretended it was all a game and us “truthers” just got lucky when we chose not to take it.
All a big game for some kind of perceived clout. Because that is all Scott Adams actually cares about.
He pisses on morality and freedom when he thinks he benefits.
Zilch: So you’re saying that Adams didn’t talk about the report that 49% of American Blacks don’t think it’s “ok” to be White?
But he did. You’re losing your tenuous hold on reality there, buddy.
Za: Do German Shepherds exist? Or does that offend you too?
If so, why?
Einstein loved unity so much that he used the same soap to shave and wash with. Perhaps you are infected by some similar species of monism?
It’s a strange universalism that hates particularities, is it not?
As a white-haired poodle, Jarek, you might have some attributes more in common with other dogs than poodles.
Maybe you even have a few patches of black hair here and there that you keep scratching at with your hind leg. Maybe the skin underneath isn’t quite white either.
There are some other questions in these threads that you’ve dodged, but of course we both know that sometimes no answer is an answer, right?
Jarek has now lost any ability to remain composed.
And it is hilarious.
Za: So the only breed of dog is the dog breed of dog?
Zilch: Where are you on Turkish Germans now?
Jarek, let’s not be obtuse.
We can slice and dice you up practically any which way, maybe to place you in some dank Government human breeding program category somewhere.
Kindly pull your head out of your ass unless that is your category you want for yourself and you like to demo it for all to read.
Fog… hmmm… I use the axiom that if the press doesn’t talk about it then you know what it is (think “a crowd of young people” flash-looting.)
In this case, the press is barely interested in dead or captured Americans nor the airbridge underway to bolster “defenses” of our temporary bases that have been there for 20 years. I wager they are laying in offensive capability.
Me thinks Joe is going to fuck this one up too.
Suppose the Jews were to abandon their ‘homeland’, and return to their original homes (according to a narrative) in Europe.
Has anyone noticed that their original European territory just so happens to be awash in Muslims?
Are those Muslims to be “resettled” back where they came from?
I seems to me that there is plenty of “clashing” going on without the excuses of “Israel” and “open air prisons” to fall back on.
I think it would be an epic troll if the Jews did go back, mostly to the US and Russia, at this point. I think most of the immigration in the last decades were from those two places.
Let those 5 million Palestinians “return” to the homes of their ancestors, those 250,000 people who were eking out a living back in 1948, and we’ll see how they peacefully work out who gets what.
Meanwhile, the Jews who left are safe in the US or Russia.
Or maybe the plan really is to depopulate Ukraine for them, instead of Cargill and Monsanto. It really is looking like it at this point.
Either way, it’s a way out of Israel.
Give the Jews Massachusetts. We won’t miss it.
Or maybe Connecticut. Isn’t Connecticut the international measurement for the size of a country anyway? It may as well become a foreign country.
Offer any Indians left in Connecticutt, Massachusetts instead. The Obamas will have to move out.
To get the Obamas out may make it all worthwhile! Lol.
“Give the Jews Massachusetts. ”
I’ll go along with that. Better than the assholes we have now.
Continuing on, should the Europeans that settled the Western Hemisphere go back to Europe and give the keys to the Native Americans?
How about we just let the winner take all here?
Apples and oranges. After our wars of conquest, we set up reservations, but individual Indians could and did leave the res for greener pastures. There was prejudice, but overall we did a decent job of assuring rights. That’s not the case in the disputed territories before 10/7, and certainly is not going to be the case here on out. BTW, as a 16% native American I qualify with my tribe for membership, but I’m a white dude raised and taught. If I declared war war with my tribe to regain land because the great spirit said it was ours, I would be in a converted Jews position with regards to land in dispute. I’m not about to dispute who’s right or wrong, that’s for those there now to decide, just please leave me and my country out of it.
West Asia doesn’t belong to Islam; not too long ago a good percentage of Syria, Lebanon & Jordan was Christian. Christian’s were driven out, a process that is going on in Pakistan right now. Let’s hope Israelis are made of tougher stuff than Christians in the Levant and Boers & Afrikaners in SAfrica.
The Christians of the Middle East are persecuted and even killed for their beliefs every day.
There is still good percentage of the population in Lebanon and Syria that is Christian.
In Iraq, thank to the US toppling the “evil Saddam” (yes, he was bad, but he kept a lid on the pot, and did not single out Christians for execution–only his enemies. His famous foreign minister, Tariq Aziz was Christian), the Iraqi Christian population has been decimated. Killed by fundamentalist Moslems, or fleeing.
If the US had succeeded in toppling Assad in Syria, the Christians there would have the same fate.
In Israel/Palestine, Hamas is hostile to Christian Palestinians (so many have left Gaza), and in the West Bank and Jerusalem, Israel harasses them.
The Christians of the middle East will have eternal life, but in this world, they will continue to suffer, until God intervenes.
Our host has changed since Friday, but I haven’t.
Paula D– That is not so. Dunno where you got that impression. My position remains as it was Friday. –JHK-Admin
On Friday he said that Israel should stop bombing Gaza and switch to going after the actual terrorists responsible for the atrocities on Oct. 7th.
I agree with that.
Bombing women and children is a bad look, as well as a war crime. If your only response to world outrage is to double down, you’re going to lose everything.
The rational Jews in Israel are being out-bred by the radical crazies, just like the rational Muslims are being out-bred by the fundamentalists.
And, truthfully, rational Americans are being out-bred by the “quiver-full” Christians, who are deliberately producing large families with the stated goal of overcoming, and possibly killing, those who don’t go along with their agenda.
What do all these have in common? We know that the US and UK sponsored and promoted the Muslim Brotherhood, and then al Qaeda and ISIS, in order to push their imperial goals.
But at the same time, in the 70s, people like James Dobson were suddenly flush with cash, and being pushed onto the population the way the trannies are now.
I remember my own sister going to Huntington Beach, a public beach, to hear giant rock concerts pushing Jesus, in the 70s.
Where did they get the permits?
Where did they get the money?
And you couldn’t go anywhere without being accosted by young proselytizers. Remember the Jesus Freaks? Who paid them?
Have you ever seen the massive evangelical churches? They cater to the poor, but they have infinite resources to do so.
Where do they get the money?
And the Jews, imo, went through some sort of similar process. The newest settlers, (by all accounts, really nasty people), are the ones breeding like Palestinians, and pushing themselves onto Palestinian land and into their homes, backed by the IDF.
According to an Israeli journalist I saw, the IDF was pulled from the Gazan border to protect one nasty fundamentalist member of the Knesset, who had moved into a Palestinian town in the West Bank, and felt threatened by the people there.
Where did this movement come from? Where did the money come from that pushes it?
Why are so many of them from the USA?
Israel only has 7 million Jews. If the secular, rational ones are outbred by the fundamentalists, they have lost their country anyway.
Netanyahu is a symbol of that.
It looks to me as if there was a world-wide effort, ramping up in the 70s, to turn a certain percentage of each religion into frothing, hateful people,, capable of justifying, and carrying out, mass murder, based on religion.
Let us not forget the Hindus in India, who burned a trainload of Muslims to death, in one of many atrocities. How were they turned into vicious murderers?
Let us not forget that the Afghans and Pakistanis were turned into hate-filled terrorists, with the help of the University of Nebraska, who provided the textbooks for young boys in madrassas.
This has been a decades long agenda to divide and conquer, imo.
My child’s elementary school in the 80s was showing James Dobson to the public.
Why? To me, pushing fundamentalist Christianity in public schools is like pushing drag queens now.
Also, a traveling library that came to my grandmother’s tiny town in Utah, where only Mormons lived, carried the entire selection of James Dobson books in their truck.
Why?
There was clearly an agenda, and big money and power behind the agenda.
I was gonna say ,
no , those are the people with the biggest megaphones.
And where did they get the money for the big megaphones ?
But you apparently already said all of that.
” To me, pushing fundamentalist Christianity in public schools is like pushing drag queens now. ”
Lol , believe it or not I have thought much the same myself before.
— With the priviso that if Fundamentalist Christians , or Drag Queens for that matter , want to set up their own schools I’m all for it.
The permanent , never – ending problem of public schools is they are always run by politicians.
And I doubt , as I said above , that you really need any more evidence that politics attracts the very worst people.
My experiences in public school were very bad. I did spend some years in Catholic school so I was able to compare. I discovered that the 50’s version of Cath school was far superior to and ahead of what public education had to offer. Of course Catholic schools supported the views of the Catholic Church – what else would one expect? In similar manner the public schools promoted their own and different set of values and expectations. Instead of supporting Catholic values and faith in God the public schools supported secular values and faith in government. It was the institution of government that was to be worshipped and that us kids were to have faith in.
In public school we’d stand up first thing in the morning and each day we’d stand up and robotically recite the Pledge Allegiance to the Flag. We’d start out each day by verbally worshipping the state with hand over hearts. Not so in Catholic school. We instead recited prayers and said some Hail Mary’s. The Pledge to the Flag was done last.
Cath school was sorta letting us kids know where the priorities were. God and Roman Catholicism came first – allegiance to the state second. It’s just common sense really when it gets down to it. Nations and states are by historical record unstable and some don’t last very long. The average age of a republic is 250 years. The histories of nations are recorded in terms of centuries. The Catholic Church has outlasted most all of them and we look at that institution now almost in terms of millenia, not centuries. Why should relatively short lived countries have earned the right to be first in line as to being important when educating children the Catholic way?
Catholic schools came about because the public schools taught religion contrary to their faith.
The Supreme Court ruled that public schools could not sponsor prayer or require bible-reading. There may have been public schools that had already stopped doing so, but basically they were forced to drop religious teaching and prayer.
This is something that was often blamed on The Joos, but it was organized atheists who brought it about.
Drag Queens/Christianity – same thing. Grotesque as always, Paula.
Yep, idiocy since they are diametrically opposed.
Paula D wrote:
“rational Americans are being out-bred by the ‘quiver-full’ Christians, who are deliberately producing large families with the stated goal of overcoming, and possibly killing, those who don’t go along with their agenda.”
What a horrid, hateful thing to say. I am appalled.
I know a number of large, happy Catholic families, who have more children than most (selfish, fearful, creature-comfort-addicted) Americans do, simply because they love God and do not close themselves off to His gift of life. They live frugally — big gardens; hand-me-down or home-sewn clothes; eschewing restaurants, Netflix and amusement parks, etc. — and instead play games, play musical instruments, have picnics in public (free) parks, etc., and are happier and healthier than most folks I know.
They are already living the way all of us will be in “a world made by hand” — they’re just doing it because raising a generous number of children on one income so a parent can stay home requires frugality, which means creativity and resourcefulness.
They are not trying to “outbreed” anyone, and they certainly have no supremacy notions. Needless to say, the thought of killing other people has certainly never entered their minds.
I pity you for what a cramped experience of the world you must have had for you to project such outlandish and hideous things onto good, decent, loving people.
And by the way, all these families I’m talking about are also very involved in serving theirocal communities. They’re the furthest thing from insular or self-centered.
Depends who’s having the kids on whether it’s good or not.
CHUMP MAN BLUES
(Blind Blake)
I’m goin’ to the river, take a great big jump
Goin’ to the river, take a great big jump
I used to be a wise man, but a woman made me a chump
It sure is funny how hard a man can fall
It sure is funny how hard a man can fall
When he gets to thinkin’ one woman has got it all
My baby throwed me out and I start walkin’ down the track
My baby throwed me out and I start walkin’ down the track
Then I went home and begged her to take me back
She ain’t no good, but I can’t quit her somehow
She ain’t no good, but I can’t quit her somehow
I used to be a wise cat but this woman has turned me out
She don’t act sweet, she’s the mean and naggin’ kind
She don’t act sweet, she’s the mean and naggin’ kind
She got a new quiver, make a drunk man lose his mind
Meant to go under Jarek’s comment below.
I guess you don’t know any quiverfull people. They aren’t Catholics, they are fundamentalist Christians. My life isn’t “cramped”, I know some of them very well.
It isn’t “hateful” to describe a real movement. And when I went to find an article to educate you, I found that, just as I said above, this started in the 80s.
“The term “Quiverfull” as a description of fundamentalist evangelical Christians with a particular set of beliefs only began in the 1980s”.
.grunge.com/935500/the-untold-truth-of-quiverfull-christianity/
Paula likes to put people in boxes with word wizardry.
””The womb is such a powerful weapon; it’s a weapon against the enemy,”……….Nancy Campbell………….
Quiverfull takes its name from Psalm 127, which states: “Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons born in one’s youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them.” Campbell and other members of the movement encourage families to have as many “arrows,” or children, as is physically possible”.
Yes, women used to proud of how many children they had. Fathers too. Muslims are still this way.
Paula don’t know shit.
Yes, women used to [fill in correct word here] proud of how many children they had. – Jar
Just ignore Paula she is a communist agitator.
One word, Paula.
Ethnocentrism Believe as I do, or I will kill you.
The basis of every religion except Judeo-Christian dogma. Dogma, not practice.
Jesus peached equality for all, the Samaritan parables, and John Locke formed the basis for “all men are created equal”
It just does not work. Ethnocentrism is an “instinct” in the human animal.
And it is getting worse.
Power and ethnocentrism, the opening forces of the “last Days”.
The Antichrist will preach Peace and back it up with War for those who don’t like Peace; who don’t like being made to live with incompatible people. I assume Christ knew this. I assume He has a problem with how his teachings were spread too.
The majority of Jews, Christians, Muslims and Hindus are decent people.
They may believe their religion is the best, but they are willing to tolerate other people, wrong as they may be.
Live and let live.
The 50 year rise of fundamentalist religions has got to be sponsored, imo. It’s too organized, too coddled, and too expensive to be spontaneous.
And there has to be a reason to turn normal people into fanatics ready to kill.
Same as BLM and CRT and the trannie cult, imo.
Self righteous people, convinced of their higher beliefs, ready to kill any heretic.
To me they’re all the same, only their particular beliefs are different.
Sounds like you, TBH.
Take a course in Apologetics and your opinion of Judeo-Christian thought might change
Every religion, John?
I dunno.
Indeed. The monotheistic religions are a lot higher on the bellicosity index than other religions.
Paula makes a false equivalence, and John needs a comparative (rather, contrasting) overview course on world religions.
Like a forced (mandated) State government school curruculum, it seems a bit of a mindfuck to exist with the fusing of a religion with a group, even by some implication, some of its common DNA. But what do I know?
But it does tie in neatly with my comments elsewhere in these threads targeted at Jarek’s white-black dichotomy and my exploding races- entitled comment.
What do you think, Jarek? Am I onto something?
A ‘race’ whose individuals smoke, bite their nails, consume coffee and hold some kind of common religious belief, irrespective of skin color.
Perhaps in a few million years, the Sikhs will begin to develop turban-shaped heads and/or extra blood vessels in the head area for better blood circulation related to cooling.
Well, being a big fan of Jim’s for many years, colour me disappointed as he seems to be solidly in the support camp of Zionist Israel.
Canuck– Want to bring back the good old days of the Levant? Bring back the Ottoman Turks to run the whole shooting match and oppress all the other Muslims there. Fixed it for ya. — JHK-Admin
When the chips are down, America and Americans are solidly behind an Empire created state that has been displacing and killing Palestinians for decades.
Yes, Hamas killing innocents is morally repugnant, regardless of rationalized justification.
But the exponentially greater response is beyond the pale. With a population laden with children unable to seek shelter and facing block eradicating bombs, as Caitlin Johnson notes, there is just no way to spin that genocidal behaviour as justified.
Imo, Jim has come down on the wrong side of history and this undermines his previous support for injustices at home and abroad.
There is no such thing as a nice war.
Period. It is survival of the fittest. The world hates an Israel that can take care of itself.
Trouble is, they can’t. Hence American carrier groups and more.
I seem to recall ‘67 and ‘73 when the Arabs, backed by the Soviets in the Cold War thingie, fighting with Soviet weapons and equipment and outnumbering the Israelis at least 2 to 1 took ass-kickings both times.
I seem to recall ‘47 before Israel was backed by anybody, the Arab armies losing again.
It’s a shame that the IDF is not compromised exclusively of old women and babies… then the Arabs might have a chance.
Have you checked the calendar lately? We’re in the 21st century now. Do try to keep up.
I know, this time will be different because the Jihadis are super-duper oppressed and Zionism and apartheid and all. Just you wait and see.
the IDF is not compromised exclusively of old women and babies – K of C
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comprised
“…exponentially greater response…” You are obviously better at histrionics than math, ay.
It is generally accepted that any response to an assault be stronger than the initiating assault so as to dissuade the attacker from continuing. Unless you think firing your CCW to fend off a guy that just stabbed you is unfair.
Geometrically greater response is a more likely truth.
Even then, any body count provided by Al Jazeera for copy-paste to the NYT is little better than a random number generator.
Even then, any body count provided by Al Jazeera for copy-paste to the NYT is little better than a random number generator.
That reminds me of Vegas Turkey-Shoot Incident Commander [whatever the flip that is!], FBI grad, Maui PD Chief/coroner John Pelletier’s Lahaina 8/8 official death toll of 99.
Sheer bullshit.
Yup. If only the sheer bullshit didn’t have a coefficient of friction exponentially greater than that of the truth.
(See: If ignorance is bliss, wisdom is true folly; and, easier to fool a man than convince him he’s been fooled).
Check out the Hamas charter. The goal of Islam is not peaceful co-existence, the goal is to wipe out All non Islamics and create a world where only they survive.
Plus Palestine has been lobbing rockets at Israel for years, sabotaging any attempt at peace talks. Hamas has placed their extensive tunnel system under schools and hospitals on purpose.
I can one up you simply read the quran if you can actually get through it.
Then understand the abrogation system in place and how later verses override earlier ones and the later verses are always the more violent ones.
Jim,
I’m not sure, but it sounds like you are arguing for the lesser evil here.
Were the Ottomans nasty overlords? Undoubtedly.
However, it is quite the turnaround for the ultimate victims of Hitlers Final Solution to becoming themselves the purveyor of the Palestinians Final Solution.
Might does not make ( moral ) right in my worldview.
That and “power corrupts” goes a long way to explaining historical injustices — and seems particularly relevant to the US and Israeli view of their place on this earth.
But what do I know.
Thanks for the opportunity to voice a dissident opinion Jim.
For the millionth time, you can’t claim a genocide happened when a population increased fivefold (e.g., the Palestinians).
Genocides make populations go down, not up. This has been a public service announcement.
Ok King, noted.
Guess we will have to wait while it happens.
Hopefully the rabid sounding politicians are just ramping up the fervour and are happy with only a few 10s of thousands of children murdered.
What, then, do we call it when you start with one million, two million are born and 1 million are murdered?
1 + 2 – 1 = 2
We started with 1 and now have 2 so the mil slaughtered, according to you, is not genocide. What is it?
It was just King’s comedy.
gen·o·cide
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noun
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
Genocide does not require killing ALL, just a large number.
I call bullshit since the actual murders might even be rained down upon the residents by their own “freedom fighters” just as easily as anyone else.
While we are harping on this these people live in a state of barbarism and are quick to attack each other don’t have the best health care systems, sanitation, water, power and food systems.
What is it? Something that has never happened in the history of genocide. Not a lot of babies being born on the Anatolian plains in 1915 or in Cambodia in 1974, for instance.
A million?
“At least 19,199 Palestinians and 2,746 Israelis have been killed by someone from the other side since 2000.:
//israelpalestinetimeline.org/charts/
Meanwhile, 2,000,000 more Palestinians were born.
Two million born, nineteen thousand die.
Genocide is not anywhere near the correct term.
//worldpopulationreview.com/countries/palestine-population
I wonder if a people can be killed in an embedded sense where they’re still kept alive and if that might still fall under the definition of genocide.
Apparently, women have babies in prison.
JHK should invite Norman Finkelstein onto his podcast, the guy who spent 40 years studying this conflict. That would be a salty episode.
What an interesting notion, perhaps one with Philip Giraldi as well.
Just read up on this guy. Whoo boy, wouldn’t that be an exchange! And he’s a Jew too, so no falling back to the old “antisemite” thought stopper. The Israeli’s, understandably, hate the guy.
That would be great.
A thought such as: the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel.
If this is true, why do those promoting this idea not give equal weight to every other displaced demographic forced to yield over the past 2,000 years? The people who crossed the Bering land bridge 15-20,000 years ago get all of the Americas, right?
This will never end.
They may have wipe out the Cro-Magnon Whites who came over on the ice before them. Or at least the men if you know what I mean.
wiped
Correcting Jarek, or giving us an update?
Thank you. I was trying to tie it in, but it couldn’t pull it together.
We have plenty of reason to worry that US towns and cities could be the next target,
The embedding is strong in the US, including in some unexpected Midwestern sleepy hollows, many without skyscrapers. Peaceful can turn violent at any time. Perhaps the word just has to be given to a small faction.
The assumption is that there has been no reason to do so. But they are creating that reason before our eyes.
They are now giving us pause to wonder about that guy at the next gas pump who looks at you funny. Not the America we grew up in.
Live on as normal, but (as should always be the case), keep your damn eyes open on your surroundings. Weird times may come, or they may vaporize in the next news cycle.
Grr! I made a personal vow to not comment about Jews, Israel, Arabs and so forth. After all, the reality is that every day I go about my own business, do pretty much what I want, and none of this has affected me at present.
I’m trying to live in this present and not worry about what the future will bring, which hasn’t happened yet. After all, that asteroid out there in the Kuiper Belt that has just dislodged itself and is heading toward the inner solar system is still an unknown. Why worry?
I’m very tired of being angry, so I’m trying hard not to be. But it ain’t easy!
Biden wants to protect Israel but destroy the USA.
Trump too is all for Israel.
Please explain how Joe Biden “wants to…destroy the USA.” It’s the same old tired right-wing talking points bullshit. “The border! The vaccine! The trannies!!!!” Utter crap.
How is Biden destroying the USA when the following economic FACTS currently prevail?
Since 20/1/2021:
> 13.9 million new jobs – of which some 800K are in manufacturing
> GDP growth currently of 4.9% (Trump’s ‘greatest economy ever’ saw an average of 2.5% and 6.5 million jobs)
> Inflation is down to 2.4% and still falling.
The US is by far the best-performing economy on the planet. That’s quite a lot of “destroying America” he’s getting away with, fer shure.
@ Rooftop Observer:
Listening to liberal narratives is like listening to someone tell you what they dreamed last night.
@ Anthea & the squiggly little benr:
“Facts is facts, ma’am…” While you poor deluded souls get lost in identity politics, believe that Drumpf is a brilliant businessman and always tells the truth, that everything was better when he was lounging around the White House like a beached whale and spent the rest of his time cheating at golf, in the meantime, the rest of the planet can see the truth of it all. These prosecutions, now well underway, will put the lie to it all. Perhaps, one day, you will see the facts for what they are, not for what The Orange Whale tells you and which you absolutely believe in your cultish playpen.
It’s going to be so delicious when Judge Engoron strips Trump & his clownish children of all their privileges and properties. It’s a story as old as time itself – rags to riches to rags in three generations. Losers follow losers, I guess.
hahahahahaha
Sniff sniff can you smell the bullshit?
Rooftop Koreans: Good
Rooftop Observer: Mashed Potatoes
Who doesn’t love Mashed Potatoes?
They welcome your exhaustion and your compliance and your wish to be left alone. The problem is that they are feeding on your tax dollars.
breeding–fixed that..both sides breeding like rats.
I conduct my life on the assumption that there is an immaterial world from which we came and to which we return, and that there are higher powers to which we’re ultimately answerable.
I don’t think we’re meant to solve these seemingly impossible and unsolvable situations. We’re meant to try to live in a cruel and unfair world in as honest, useful, kind and honorable way as we’re able. It’s, as my mother used to say, not a game you can win but, rather, a test of character.
Perhaps my perception is entirely wrong (though obviously I don’t think so), but it works well as a template for the effort to lead a moral life.
I think that you (and your mother) are right.
“I don’t think we’re meant to solve these seemingly impossible and unsolvable situations. We’re meant to try to live in a cruel and unfair world in as honest, useful, kind and honorable way as we’re able. It’s, as my mother used to say, not a game you can win but, rather, a test of character.”
That is, to my mind, a sensible way to react to those things over which we have no personal control. Thank you.
How has it come about that atavism, by group or individual, has been anointed to victimhood? Could there be some political machination at play?
One reason Gaza is so overcrowded is that the Palestinian birth rate is among the highest on the planet… by design. The Hamas charter states that the role of women is one thing only – to produce and raise as many males as possible, (while living inside a burka.) I wonder whether the feminist libtards even know that. Or that the goal of Islam is the annihilation of all who are not islamic.
Or that the goal of Islam is the annihilation of all who are not islamic.
Can you provide documentation? I’m reading the Qur’an but I haven’t gotten to that part….yet.
I’m no apologist for Muhammed but I do want to deal in primary sources.
9.29 in the Quran?
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
The conquest of all, not their annihilation. Ideally, they would then or at least eventually convert to Islam. Until then they are second class people who have to pay the tax and have few rights.
See the books of Robert Spencer if you want all the quotations anent the bad side of Islam.
”“What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?”
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Looks like the US/west has stirred up some Muslims again. Dima reports that last night rioters in Dagestan, Russia, stirred up by Telegram rumors, attacked Russian police.
This is how the US has destabilized Russia and other countries for decades.
.youtube.com/watch?v=y1DEJd-8X2o
We have posters on this blog who obediently follow the narrative of their owners.
They hate Hamas and Hezbollah with a white hot fury, as instructed, but then they cry crocodile tears over the sainted Chechen and Uyghur terrorists, as instructed.
I have no doubt that they supported the freedom fighting Osama BinLaden and al Qaeda in the 80s and 90s, as instructed, then switched to hating them after 2001, as instructed, and then switched again to lauding them in 2011, when they were used to attack Libya and Syria, as instructed.
They no doubt supported the Kosovo KLA Muslims when instructed, including al Qaeda, who fought with them.
.spyculture.com/clandestime-113-alternative-history-al-qaeda-destruction-yugoslavia/
Pathetically predictable.
Wow Paula, you’ve realized that a predictable proportion of any demographic can be easily manipulated by narrative construed of selected “facts” of history. I salute your sophisticated comprehension of how history is sieved into propaganda. Reminds me of how Wokeness was foisted upon our nation.
As a Communist, Paula hates all religions except Communism.
You are like an annoying heckler, with Tourette’s, to boot, following me around, uttering your vocal tic “She’s a commie”, every time I post.
I note that only benr is stupid enough to believe you.
Poor marxist lil Paula skewered by her own pathetic rhetoric.
If you were forthright, every one would denigrate you for holding such viewpoints. So you hide them.
I spend hours typing out my viewpoints here.
Then you spend hours telling me that I don’t actually think what I think.
Again, only benr is idiotic enough to take your word about what I think.
We see your talking points spewed all over the web site.
You would fit right in with the “squad” of radical leftist idiots.
\\\\https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Squad_(United_States_Congress)
The fact you spend hours a day typing in those opinions tells me you need a hobby.
Congrats Jim – This week’s Monday post was linked to Citizen Free Press!!!
“ Notice that the Islamic nations surrounding Israel refuse to admit any Palestinian settlers. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, will not take them. Why is that?”
el-Sisi to wife: “ Entissar! We have company! Water down the soup and set the table for 2 million, would you dear?”
Syria already has Palestinian refugee camps that have been there for decades. They also had or have Iraqi refugee camps.
Syria continues to be partially occupied by the US, which is there pretending to fight ISIS, while it’s actually serving as a taxi service for them, among other things, as well as stealing Syrian oil and wheat.
While this is going on, ordinary Syrians are suffering hugely under western sanctions. Not sure how many more Palestinians anyone thinks they can cope with, given the food and energy shortages they are suffering.
Funny how no-one applied sanctions to the US or UK for the illegal Iraq war. Sanctions are always a bit one-sided.
Sanctions are always a bit one-sided.
The [other] Golden Rule:
He who has the gold, makes the rules.
Soon BRICS will be making the rules.
Indeed, GA. Sanctions, propaganda, manufactured outrage, UN resolutions……..all a bit one-sided.
You hear a whole lot about Occupied Palestine, but not a damn word about occupied Syria.
Odd, that.
“Syria continues to be partially occupied by the US, which is there pretending to fight ISIS, while it’s actually serving as a taxi service for them, among other things, as well as stealing Syrian oil and wheat.”
One of the biggest wake-up calls I ever had was watching them “accidentally” airdrop sidewinder missiles and other supplies to ISIS (who they created), and watching that band of headchoppers drive their new Toyota trucks arcross the ME on their way to Assad.
Many of the trucks even had the names of US landscaping firms painted on the side (surplus materials).
The Gray Zone
Zionist think tank publishes blueprint for Palestinian genocide
KIT KLARENBERG·OCTOBER 24, 2023
As Israel’s carpet bombing of Gaza entered its third week, leaving over 5000 dead and at least one million residents displaced, a Tel Aviv-based think tank published a blueprint for self-proclaimed Jewish state’s final solution.
In a white paper released over a week after the Hamas-led surprise attack on Israeli military bases and kibbutzes, The Institute for National Security and Zionist Strategy outlined “a plan for resettlement and final rehabilitation in Egypt of the entire population of Gaza,” based on the “unique and rare opportunity to evacuate the entire Gaza Strip” that Israel’s latest assault on the besieged costal enclave provided.
Published in Hebrew on the organization’s website, the paper was authored by Amir Weitman, “an investment manager and visiting researcher” at the Institute who also leads the libertarian caucus of Israel’s ruling Likud Party. The document began by noting that there are 10 million vacant housing units in neighboring Egypt that could be “immediately” filled with Palestinians. Weitman then assured readers that the “sustainable plan…aligns well with the economic and geopolitical interests of the State of Israel, Egypt, the USA and Saudi Arabia.”
Weitman’s ethnic cleansing proposal echoes forced transfer plans advanced in recent days by former Israeli officials while capitalizing on evacuation orders delivered to the entire civilian population of northern Gaza by the Israeli military.
Flyers dropped from Israeli warplanes, Just received this from #Gaza. #Israel literally asked more than 1.1 million from north and central #Gaza city to leave towards the south. This is illegal and absurd. People of Gaza refuse to leave. #GazaUnderAttack#StopIsraeliAggression… pic.twitter.com/pPktoEjKQJ
— Sameh Habeeb (@Samehahabeeb) October 13, 2023
Weitman’s sinister blueprint imagined Israel purchasing these properties at a cost of $5 – 8 billion dollars, a whopping price-tag that reflects just 1 – 1.5 percent of Israel’s GDP.
“These sums of money [required to cleanse Gaza] in relation to the Israeli economy, are minimal,” Weitman posits. “Investing individual billions of dollars to solve this difficult issue is an innovative, cheap and sustainable solution.”
Weitman acknowledged that his plan virtually amounts to Israel “buying the Gaza Strip,” arguing the move would be “a very worthwhile investment” for Zionists because it would “add a lot of value over time.” He asserted local “land conditions” in the area would provide “many” Israeli settlers a high standard of living, therefore allowing for an expansion of settlements in Gush Dan near the Egyptian border, giving “a tremendous impetus to settlement in the Negev.”
In December 2021, Tel Aviv approved plans to establish four settlements in the Negev to house 3,000 settler families.
A genocidal war to end all wars
Though Egypt has so far rejected Israeli pressure for a mass exodus of Gaza residents through the southern Rafah crossing, Weitman argued Cairo will welcome the mass exodus of Palestinian refugees as “an immediate stimulus” that will “provide a tremendous and immediate benefit to al-Sisi’s regime.”
Weitman claimed that Cairo’s major creditors — including France, Germany and Saudi Arabia — are likely to welcome a revitalized Egyptian economy, courtesy of “Israeli investment” in the Palestinians’ permanent removal. He surmizes that Western Europe will welcome “the transfer of the entire Gaza population to Egypt,” because it will significantly “reduce the risk of illegal immigration…a tremendous advantage.” Meanwhile, he expects Riyadh to embrace the move because the “evacuation of the Gaza Strip means the elimination of a significant ally of Iran.”
The ethnic cleansing of Gaza would mean an end to “ceaseless, repeated rounds of fighting, which inflame the fires of hatred against Israel.” Moreover, “closing the Gaza issue will ensure a stable and increased supply of Israeli gas to Egypt and its liquefaction,” from the vast reserves seized by Israel near Gaza’s shores.
Palestinians in turn are expected to jump at the chance to be forcibly transferred from their homes rather than “living in poverty under the rule of Hamas.” It is therefore necessary for Israel to “create the right conditions” for them to “immigrate” from Gaza to Cairo. Weitman noted that Gaza’s two million inhabitants “constitute less than 2% of the total Egyptian population, which today already includes 9 million refugees. A drop in the ocean.”
The paper ominously concluded: “There is no doubt that in order for this plan to come to fruition, many conditions must exist at the same time. Currently, these conditions are met and it is unclear when such an opportunity will arise again, if ever. This is the time to act. Now.”
“If we want to remain alive, we will have to kill and kill and kill”
As barbarous as these proposals might seem, they reflect what many Israeli officials appear to be murmuring in private, and what at least one former government spinmeister has openly pushed as an altruistic solution to the Palestinian “problem.”
“There is a huge expanse, almost endless space in the Sinai Desert, just on the other side of Gaza,” former Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel, Danny Ayalon, echoed the genocidal Zionist logic behind Weitman’s proposal in an interview with Al Jazeera’s Marc Lamont Hill. “The idea is—and this is not the first time it will be done—for them to leave over to the open areas where we and the international community will prepare the infrastructure — you know, 10 cities with food and water — just like for the refugees of Syria.”
“There is almost endless space in the Sinai Desert…this is not the first time it has been done…we & the international community will prepare tent cities…”
Israeli politician Danny Ayalon describes the their vision for another Nakba today in Gaza.
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— Lowkey (@Lowkey0nline) October 14, 2023
In 2004, Zionist demographer Arnon Sofer of Haifa University laid out detailed plans for the isolation of Gaza directly to Ariel Sharon’s government. This entailed withdrawing Israeli forces from the area entirely and constructing a stringent system of surveillance and security to ensure nothing and no one went in or out without Zionist proviso. He predicted a perpetual bloodbath:
“When 2.5 million people live in a closed-off Gaza, it’s going to be a human catastrophe. Those people will become even bigger animals than they are today…The pressure at the border will be awful. It’s going to be a terrible war. So, if we want to remain alive, we will have to kill and kill and kill. All day, every day…the only thing that concerns me is how to ensure the boys and men who are going to have to do the killing will be able to return home to their families and be normal human beings.”
The Institute has put forward a clean and easy fantasy of achieving the same goal put forward by Sofer. For it to succeed, all Palestinians have to do is put down their weapons and head toward the desert of permanent exile.
Arnon Sofer is an academic who helped devise Israel’s siege of Gaza to engineer a one-way peace
Sofer said, “If we want to remain alive, we have to kill and kill and kill, all day, every day. If we don’t kill, we will cease to exist.”
I explain the logic of the siege (2013) pic.twitter.com/il2oCQQG7O
— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) October 10, 2023
Hey Jarek, what is your current assessment of the big picture?
Cabal Factions are Battling for World Control, and ISRAEL IS KEY — Mel K Interview
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It’s the burning fuse of WW3 BECAUSE they control the United States and the Anglosphere, and have great influence in the rest of Western Europe as well.
They’ve lost Russia, thus the stage was set with the rise of Putin and his group.
Actions would support the notion that “Joe Biden” is all in on the 2030 Agenda, and I would agree with your assessment that they’ve lost Russia (and Putin).
But, they delude themselves that Xi is onboard with their 2030 Agenda, and they are still hopeful that they can get Iran to embrace a peaceful Vision 2030.
I am thinking that there are multiple Agendas, and various groups that support each Agenda but want to dictate the final format (the enemy of my enemy is my friend).
Mel K commented that Israel was a key position in the Belt and Road path.
Seems that Israel would embrace the Belt and Road Initiative, and peace; but that doesn’t seem to reconcile with Xi’s relationship with Iran, unless solely for the oil resource.
So, is Xi just playing everyone, with the vision that the Belt and Road Initiative will trump all other agendas, and he will incorporate as many bits and pieces of the other agendas as he sees fit?
Comment on the news this morning was that some Chinese companies have removed Israel and Taiwan from their online world map.
JHK wrote:
“The second thorn that hangs up any plausible peace is the Palestinians’ overt declarations in the Hamas charter, for instance, that Israel has no right to exist and must be destroyed.”
Yup, right there in their charter, for the whole world to see. But the world, alas, prefers not to look.
Muhammad himself, supposedly the role model for all good Muslim men, presided over (and may have even participated in himself, with his own hands) the mass slaughter of more than 800 Jews of Medina in A.D. 627.
answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/qurayza_jews.htm
The problem is Islam.
What to do about it, I have no idea. Other than to pray for miracles and mass conversions. I think of the miraculous apparitions of Mary to Juan Diego in Mexico in 1531, which resulted in the mass conversion of over 8 million people to Christ and away from the demonic human-sacrifice cults that had reigned there for centuries.
Having said all that, though, I’ve always been sympathetic to the Orthodox Jews who, since the beginning, have said that the nation-state of Israel was created in error and even blasphemy. Their belief was that ONLY GOD, not secular man, could re-establish the Jews in the land of Israel. They saw it as a bunch of liberal/secular Jews trying to play Messiah, instead of waiting on God to send the Messiah.
Never widely reported on but there have been demonstrations in of all places NY by Orthodox Jews on that very thing. That’s the difference between Zionism and religion right there.
The Settlers are Orthdox and do NOT believe the above.
“What to do about it, I have no idea. Other than to pray for miracles and mass conversions.” — Heartlander
Unfortunately, that’ll never happen.
The greatest sin in Islam is apostasy. You don’t get to ‘choose’ to not be a Muslim. You’re born into it, and that’s that.
“The fog of war has never been so dense…”
Is it really a ‘fog of war’ when war is everything you want? Looking at the sordid World history of United States Incorporated (and It’s Friends/Partners/Lackeys) you quickly see that War is not seen as Fog but as The Sweet Sun of Fun and Profit. Not seen that way by We the People of course who just want to be left the hell alone and live in peace. But we are never allowed to be that way because… a dense foggy day for us is just another sunny at the beach for all those faux Masters who bring fog to all over the World. An Empire of Fog that casts the pall of its dense dark grey over the Planet.
“It’s a wonder that anybody might venture a coherent thought… without a sadistic beat-down or a dishonest, tactical inversion of meaning along the way.”
This is also an aspect of the ‘Total Spectrum of Control’ which is the publicly-acknowledged mode of operation of the Dark State that rules the Planet with the eager help of willing hands of the Deep State. This is the aspect of a total war on OUR MINDS… our ability to think and communicate… our freedom to discern… to make sense of things… to agree upon a shared meaning of terms… and to probe deeper and find that which They wish to remain hidden when a base foundation has been laid down.
Distort terms. Change the meaning of words. Totally eliminate some words. Introduce Nonsense words into the Public Arena and watch as the clueless public quickly eats them up and puts them into regular use. Garbage words like ‘Conspiracy Theorist’ and ‘Racist!’ and ‘Tear-Roar-Wrist!’ and ‘The Science!’ and ‘Climate Change’ and ‘Anti-Phonetic’ (?) and so many others.
“The second thorn that hangs up any plausible peace is the Palestinians’ overt declarations in the Hamas charter, for instance, that Israel has no right to exist and must be destroyed.”
So – (for those who are tuning in late) – here’s the short version:
Certain Islamic Factions declare that Israel has no right to exist and must be destroyed.
And Israel declares that Palestinians (and Iranians and others?) have no right to exist and must be destroyed.
(OK, you’re all caught up now.)
Have these cultures ever paused for a moment to stop and see how much alike they actually are? Like two brothers in the same family that just want to spend all their days fighting with each other? Various Sides that fervently believe that They Alone are Gods’ Favorites?
‘No, we are NOTHING like Them! How can you SAY that!’
That was said by all those groups at the same time. See the pattern again?
There’s an old cultural saying that comes out of Central Europe that goes something like this: “If They want to go ahead and pull each other’s hair out then go ahead and let Them do it”.
In the case of eternal Middle East Madness… it is clear that all sides live just to pull each other’s hair out…and everything else along the way, with that.
The Rest of the World has one simple request: Go ahead and pull all your hair out if you want to.. but please LEAVE OUR HAIR THE HELL ALONE.
It’s not always pretty, but it’s OURS.
@ Roundball Shaman:
Quite so. I don’t know why anyone’s even talking about this conflict. I suppose it deserves about an equal amount of our attention as the conflict between the Tutsi and the Hutu, but no more.
Just as, “Joggers are gonna jog,” the people in the Middle East are going to fight. To paraphrase Mercutio’s dying speech about “a plague on both your houses,” my view is, “Piss on all y’all.”
Anthea: “I don’t know why anyone’s even talking about this conflict.”
One reason for this is because America’s State Media is obsessed with presenting this ‘Programming’ in front of our noses constantly – and always with a certain spin that greatly favors one side of the conflict. It is being force-fed into our consciousness and the Spirit of the Times.
And why that certain ‘spin’? Because State Media is run by one particular ethnic group… and has been at least since movies and TV came along many years ago and since what used to be the great number of daily newspapers around the Nation began to disappear and leave the whole territory to TV (and now the Anti-Social Media sites).
State Media (and key Websites) have a bully platform and they shove Their thoughts and agendas down our throats with it incessantly. And many of us have learned to eat that crap up and beg for more. And share it with others to pollute their minds as well.
All Cultures are basically narcissistic in their functioning. They see everything their own way and they want everything to go the way they want. As such, multiple cultures are going to be in conflict with all sides demanding things ‘Their Way’. In other words, Cultures are like babies. And World conflicts are like babies fighting each other all trying to get Mommy to do things as they demand.
Messy Babies that now control nuclear weapons.
This coward Jarek (aka several different screen names before) and several other “ regulars” iare in their glory right now Mr Kunstler. You give mini platforms to these little fecal remnants on your comment section and it makes me think you are no different than an assimilated Berliner in 1938. Pathetic .
LOL! You’re that irritating little turd that just won’t pinch off, aren’t you?
Well, doc, I like your comment about fecal remnants, but in all fairness to JHK, he’s trying to maintain an open forum, which means allowing some nasty people the ability to voice their opinions, even if we despise their beliefs. I have to give JHK credit for putting up with this garbage. I know for a fact the crap disgusts him, but that’s the price we have to pay for freedom of speech (the 1st A).
I’ll tell you, I was appalled by Jarek (or whatever he was called when I first began reading this blog in 2008). I emailed JHK to ask him to ban Jarek). He was nice enough to explain to me why he was allowing the nazi crap. I don’t recall his exact answer, but now that I’m 15 years older, I can appreciate why he’s allowing it (that’s why I wrote this first paragraph.
JHK is a better man than I am. If I was running this blog (obviously I’m not) I would have permanently kicked Jarek’s ass out of here 15 years ago.
So, although you are disgusted with all this crap, which is understandable I say please don’t castigate Jim.
You’re right, Bill. The Big Kahuna gets to speak and we can read him or we can scroll on by. Heck, we can even stroll on by as the public square is just too rambunctious for some.
When Howard Stern first started becoming “The King of All Media,” his audience was, in substantial part, comprised of New York-radio listeners who hated him and every word that he uttered.
My Dad was the same years ago with Bill O’Reilly on Fox. My Dad would get so angry at O’Reilly that he would talk about … well, never mind.
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JHK truly is a man of merit and character and integrity and fair
who lanterns one of the final flickers of our dying public square.
While bannings do happen, they are extremely rare
because, for the most part, Mr K is laissez-faire.
I’m trying to be fair. I believe in a two state solution. Yes, I have my sympathies, but I’m not blinded by them.
If the Palis are all put in the Sinai, and are taken care of by the proceeds of the “sale”, they will get even angrier and breed even more ferociously. They will camp out right on the Wall, and the Israelis will hear their chants and curses – and know that they have just kicked the can down the road.
Well now I know who “The Big Kahuna” is at least. Jarek’s a bit extreme and a more than a bit irritating at times, but he’s also well informed and defends his positions very well (whether you agree with them or not), unlike docmartin above, who’s answer for everything is “ban the fecal remnants.”
Right you are, Jimmy. Bans can be necessary but, in a vibrant public square, a ban should be the last resort.
If someone doesn’t like what you or I or BK have to say:
Don’t read us.
P.S.
We miss ya, Dis.
Who’s = whose. Sorry, Q.
Thanks OG. I like your stuff too. Being irritating is a hard row to hoe with a stiff price to be paid, but some of us feel compelled to assume the mantle nonetheless.
The sheep will be with us always, but the shepherds must remain ever vigilant, no matter the lack of reward.
“He was nice enough to explain to me why he was allowing the nazi crap. ”
I believe this question was specifically referred to early in ‘Living in the Long Emergency’, which I read some 3 years ago.
But I have no idea why I remember that from 3 years ago because I learned yesterday, exactly here, that women don’t have memories.
Talking of memories, I can watch a film with my husband and, when it comes back on TV 6 months or a year later, I’ll say ‘we watched this already’. He’ll respond, ‘I’ve never seen it’. I’ll say ‘you watched it with me. You even commented [blah, blah]’. He will repeat, ‘I’ve never seen it’.
Somewhere near the end of the film, he’ll remember a scene that he’s seen before. I’ve lost count of how often this has happened. I don’t even bother responding after the first ‘I’ve never seen it’ now. One spends a lot of time in ‘whatever …’ mode, with people who both have terrible memories but are entirely certain of themselves.
Funny, GA. My wife and I have the same issue. I’m very good at remembering books and movies, and she isn’t. I can remember movies I watched years ago and she watches a movie a few months ago and doesn’t remember seeing it until halfway through it. Oh, well, no big deal.
Well, I don’t mind rewatching something if it’s good (and not too soon after the first viewing). But, as I’ve said to my husband, his bad memory must serve him well, because it’s like a new film each time he sees it!
GA,
I have the same routine (I don’t call it a problem) with my wife. We’ll be watching a movie that we’d seen a year ago. I’ll prompt her on a scene we’ve just witnessed. She’ll say she doesn’t remember it.
Lots of good-natured ribbing. But she’s better than me at predicting the plot outcomes, which perhaps is why she’s drawn (unlike me) to murder mysteries.
What????
My wife can specifically remember everything negative I have said to her for the last thirty years and repeat it exactly as I said it right back to me.
It can be very frustrating.
Haha – I think that dynamic is quite common, benr. Men often wish women’s memories were less good. 🙂
If my husband says something that completely contradicts what he said earlier, I’ll point it out. An example would be him saying, in December 2020 (re the about-to-be EUA’d ‘vaccines’, ‘I won’t be going near it and I don’t think most doctors will either’.
A month later he got vaxxed, and, to this day, he has no recollection of the earlier assertion. I recall it word for word, because it mattered.
Too bad women can’t remember what they themselves said two minutes previously. Or one post up in blog terms.
“I emailed JHK to ask him to ban Jarek”
Of course you did, Bill. I would not have expected you would do anything less to someone you dislike.
Bill the Covid fascist didn’t know where the trains were going, he swears.
Sedition Against The Banality of Top-Down Social-Engineering For The Masses
• State governments/cronies have plopped down their Woke in universities and corporations and the like.
• State governments/cronies have plopped down their ideological indoctrination and drag-queens and the like in elementary schools, libraries and places where our kids go.
• State governments/cronies have plopped down their pseudowomen notions in various places where women go/do, like washroom facilities and sports.
• State governments/cronies have plopped down their rules that authoritize the identities and/or pronouns, etc., of those whose identities are questionable, often at best.
• State governments/cronies have plopped down their abnormal notions for normal and lies for truth.
• State governments/cronies have plopped down chilling effects for those who would question/challenge their notions of reality.
• State governments/cronies have plopped down their cops, social workers, private security personel and/or the like in different and/or socioeconomically-disadvantaged communities. (i.e., LGBT+ [Stonewall], aboriginal, ‘black’)
• State governments/cronies have plopped down an entire State and/or its militaries in the middle of the Middle East.
We are seeing what could possibly go wrong.
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Interview\;
Bill Mollison: “People question me coming through the American frontier these days. They ask, ‘What’s your occupation?’ I say, ‘I’m just a simple gardener.’ And that is deeply seditious. If you’re a simple person today, and want to live simply, that is awfully seditious. And to advise people to live simply is more seditious still.
You see, the worst thing about permaculture is that it’s extremely successful, but it has no center, and no hierarchy.”
Alan: So that’s worst from whose perspective?
Bill: Anybody that wants to extinguish it. It’s something with a million heads. It’s a way of thinking which is already loose, and you can’t put a way of thinking back in the box.
Alan: Is it an anarchist movement?
Bill: …You won’t get cooperation out of a hierarchical system. You get enforced directions from the top, and nothing I know of can run like that. I think the world would function extremely well with millions of little cooperative groups, all in relation to each other.”
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“Everything government touches turns to crap.” – Ringo Starr
” I think the world would function extremely well with millions of little cooperative groups, all in relation to each other.””
Brilliant! He should also think about no more wars, babies not born with crooked backs, and ending world hunger.
Just another superficial, shallow, and unrealizable hope, not understanding that the same human frailty that eventually destroys the state will also destroy their utopia.
Golding’s Lord of the Flies was a roadmap.
“…But…but this time it will be different….”
Babysteps, elysianfield, Even you had to do them.
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We’ve had many who tried their baby steps. They couldn’t even make it outta the crib.
Well that’s exaclty it: You, BackRowHeckler, elysianfield and MrMangoOnMySoulder look like you’re still in your cribs WRT anarchy. Maybe even fetal or zygote.
I’m glad that at least one here — you, apparently — is an adult, and are here to instruct and enlighten us.
Oh, wait. No one else iin the history of Earthlings have been so enlightened either.
Well, Zaz, you’re just going to have to take on that incredibly heavy burden yourself. So what are you wasting time on us obtuse single cell organisms for? You should be out — I don’t know — on a stump on a corner somewhere more promising?
Tribe Of Pangaea
Did you see the link I posted upthread? This one?
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Not every ‘thing’ got out of course.
Still, though, it is not without a sense of irony that we write in the ostensible throes of the decline and/or collapse of large-scale State-based global-industrial civilization…
Which may, as you write, ‘instruct and enlighten us’, if nothing else, school of hard knocks and all that.
Maybe no one will get out this time.
Yours sincerely,
Tribe Of Pangaea- First Member
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No. As I told you, I don’t play “go fetch!” to posted links. If you have an idea, I’d like to see it in your own words, and in concise form.
Fuck your gish galloping.
Even an amoeba must move even if it can’t walk (because it has no shoes!). Thus it “throws” part of itself forward and then pulls the rest of itself with that part.
Is this what Za means by baby steps? The throwing of the pseudopod? If Society or the Human Race is a vast Amoeba, are the Anarchists the pseudopod, the “baby steppers”?
Being past a concept for 25 years since that late-night frat party conversation about how ‘we’re solving the problems of the world, man, if everyone just…’ doesn’t mean one hasn’t worked its potential merits through properly, Dr. Zazelle.
Life experience says the idea is pointless, outside of pockets of a few dozen idealists here and there…that will still call the cops if someone breaks into their car, or complain to the city council if a neighbor builds a shed closer than six feet to their fence.
Please find a new hobby besides trying to push anarchism as a viable structure for actual humans.
Or go start a commune in Bolivia.
“Brilliant! He should also think about no more wars, babies not born with crooked backs, and ending world hunger.”
Under anarchy (can you even say that, or should it be ‘in the vicinity of anarchy?), a bunch of nice people will just decide to be spinal surgeons. They will train for 10 years (or maybe 10 minutes, since there won’t be any regulations) and work for nothing (well, maybe a chicken or two). But if they kill the baby by accident, nobody will be able to sue them, because etc. etc.
That’s why I posted this:
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Nature has solved some biological problems all on its own without the need for human so-called intelligence, like getting a fish out of the water and onto land, and then getting some monkeys out of their trees and into outer-space.
Can we, or at least some of us, figure out better ways to run our societies? Of course.
Anarchy, incidentally, isn’t about no authority but about no illegitimate authority.
But none of that may be neither here nor there if our civilization crashes fast and hard enough that Klaus Schwab et al. loses grip and drops us all into a life of small-scale relative anarchy.
Remember; I’ll get my anarchy one way or another. LOL
“small-scale relative anarchy.”
Zaz,
You have a young daughter? Let us suppose you do. Further, suppose a neighbor, has been found to be supplying fentanyl to your daughter, and then using her for immoral purpose…and several of your other neighbors have participated. Now suppose you find out due to your 12 year old’s obvious pregnancy.
What does one do under small-scale relative anarchy?
I’ve got a bit of a cold here and am finally getting sleepy again, but let’s see what I can crank out anyway…
I recall once chatting with someone about context. They presented some artificial philosophical dilemma and I told them in part that that’s not what would happen in real life. It was artificial and stripped of context or most of it. Sure it was a thought experiment, but it had limited application.
So assuming your case was real, I’d wonder what would be the context in which this happens? What kind of society would we be talking about?
If we have a society with a rotten core and is starting to break down, then we’ll have all kinds of problems along those lines, veering in from different directions like a ‘perfect-storm’.
Anarchy, or its sibling, direct/pure democracy, is in part a kind of preventative medicine and as we’ve already discussed, a kind of solid framework/foundation upon which to build to weather the storms.
If you don’t have that kind of foundation to begin with, my advice would be to simply forget about building on it until you do.
As for your example specifically, if it transpired, its context would in large part determine what I and others who may help, would do and could do.
Oh ya, the other point I wanted to say is based on the classic wisdom of treating the cause rather than, or at least before, the symptom.
“So assuming your case was real, I’d wonder what would be the context in which this happens? What kind of society would we be talking about?” — Zaz
It’s always the society, the unfair society to blame. Never human weakness and evil.
From mother’s tit to the university socialism funnel, the protected youth never see a physical fight, let alone get involved in one. Never get robbed. Never get employed in a factory or dangerous joe job, ruled over by a sadistic hard-hatted satrap.
When they get dumped by a girlfriend, it’s not because they’re Peter Pans, but because they believed her when she said she didn’t want to crowd him, wanted instead to ‘set him free on his life journey’.
Around 30 years of age, the facade, the entire idealist shooting match implodes, and they’re first stunned and disbelieving, then angry as hell, then depressed.
They then become reclusive cynics, or, like the seven protagonists in Filloy’s Caterva, violent but unaffiliated ‘revolutionaries’. Or, just as bad, ineffectual house hubbies — submissive, resentful, and surly.
Tragic, really.
“Remember; I’ll get my anarchy one way or another. LOL”
Well, that’s probably true. But my guess is the local or regional warlords (or just protection racketeers) will have emerged before you can say ‘noble savage’.
@ga
Yes, thank you regional warlords or gangs will always fill the power vacuum and then it’s their rules and their rules typically are not fair to those not in their gang.
That was my exact point about Afghanistan or Somalia barely functioning or non-existent governments with ruling regional warlords running the show and chaos everywhere.
“Reports from Gaza indicate significant breakdowns in civil order, including mass looting of humanitarian aid warehouses, as well as theft of privately owned food, water, and fuel”
“As for your example specifically, if it transpired, its context would in large part determine what I and others who may help, would do and could do.:
“I’ve got a bit of constipation here and am finally getting sleepy again, but let’s see what I can crank out anyway”…deflection, obfuscation, and bullshit….Zaz, you know you have no answers, and reams of convoluted text have had few, if any, on this site aligning with your premise.
You are not an anarchist, but rather a libertine, or at least a libertarian.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own definitions.
Thanks guys for your august insights. Now we can move forward. LOL
Maybe some of us or our progeny can inconspicuously tiptoe on-board the end results of those who’ve actually formulated the ideas, drafted the plans, and done the hard work.
I’d offer a link to my ~3000 word draft manifesto in this regard but Soul Forensics doesn’t do links of/or ‘gish gallop’.
Pass the Fentanyl…
” ‘So assuming your case was real, I’d wonder what would be the context in which this happens? What kind of society would we be talking about?’ — Zaz
It’s always the society, the unfair society to blame. Never human weakness and evil.” ~ Soul Forensics
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Only that’s not really what we’re talking about.
“Maybe some of us or our progeny can inconspicuously tiptoe on-board the end results of those who’ve actually formulated the ideas, drafted the plans, and done the hard work.”
I’m sure it took the formulation of ideas, the drafting of plans, and hard work to formulate and establish NAMBLA.
Ideas, plans and hard work to no good end.
“I’m sure it took the formulation of ideas, the drafting of plans, and hard work to formulate and establish NAMBLA.” ~ elysianfield
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You are speaking out of utter ignorance if you think anarchists can’t/won’t do anything but let whatever coercive transgression happen. Holishit LOL
It has been said, probably by anarchists as well, that it’s the State that, aside from being criminals, protects the criminals.
Your comments– and congrats by the way– add nicely to the idiocy of the threads.
Notable political pundit and spiritual sage Ringo Starr is name-checked in yet another patchwork gish gallop set of non sequiturs.
gish gallop set – Soul F
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Thanks for bringing this term to my attention. It is totally new to me.
It’s an internet plague created by know-nothings.
Know-nothing? Never heard of that before.
youtu.be/REWeBzGuzCc?si=RsfQuVWsmrmdQoV9
Something new that the ladies love? Like “whataboutism” or the challenging of premises with examples that contradict them? Men at their best see this as metal sharpening metal, but very few women will ever attain unto this.
I suspect that Soul Forensics, based on what I’ve read of theirs so far, is just projecting.
Hi Q. Shtik.
I don’t think that qualifies as a gish gallop (my comment-in-question is actually quite tight with one main concept) and Soul Forensics’ stylistic latch-on to Ringo Starr is a riot. LOL
Commenting On That Deliberately-Amusing Green Ringo Maraschino Cherry On Top
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“Notable political pundit and spiritual sage Ringo Starr is name-checked…” ~ Soul Forensics
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The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 11:09 pm:
“No it didn’t download porn onto your computer! Skunks can’t do that! So it was probably you! Or someone– human of course– who has access to your computer!”
“What a moment to be leaderless!”-JHK
Actually, the U.S. has a leader–it’s a cabal run by Obama/Hillary and funded in no small part by George Soros. Biden is just the evil, corrupt, criminal vegetable puppet that the cabal utilizes to effect the destruction of the American Republic.
The Obama/Hillary cabal is a violent, sadistic, murderous coagulate of the worst features of Communist/Socialism and Fascist/Socialism. It’s would be as if Hitler and Stalin got together and birthed a love child that expressed in its being the worst and most evil genes of its parents. Included in that, in the case of Obama, was the gift of oration to be able to sinister bald-face lie in a most convincing manner like Hitler, and in the case of Hillary, to be as ruthless and merciless to a country’s own citizens as Stalin was to Soviet citizens.
Worst of all, the evil of the Obama/Hillary cabal has infected the entire Democrat Party elite, so getting rid of Biden (which will likely happen now that he is becoming a major liability to the cabal) will solve little. There are many vicious Democrat tyrants-in-training to replace Biden . . . and Harris. It’s easy to spot them–just see who is staying in the Party–they are the tyrants. Those who refuse to toe the Democrat elite line are getting drummed out of the Party, one-by-one. Whatever the Democrat Party was, it is now the Party of pure evil.
You sure are correct.
“The Obama/Hillary cabal is a violent, sadistic, murderous coagulate of the worst features of Communist/Socialism and Fascist/Socialism. It’s would be as if Hitler and Stalin got together and birthed a love child that expressed in its being the worst and most evil genes of its parents. Included in that, in the case of Obama, was the gift of oration to be able to sinister bald-face lie in a most convincing manner like Hitler, and in the case of Hillary, to be as ruthless and merciless to a country’s own citizens as Stalin was to Soviet citizens.”
You must be either kidding us or, if you truly believe all that tripe, then you’re headed for a mental institution.
Socialisthater is 100% on point the fact you choose not to admit it is a reflection of your own mental short comings not his.
The takeaway from where I sit concerning this latest bit of middle-east mischief is that it’s obvious that many of Israel’s Jews are like the rest of us – pawns of the puppet masters. Just being Jewish doesn’t guarantee a “seat at the table” or membership of the insider’s club.
Things are going to get messy as part of a script gone awry. The goal was probably a bit of upheaval, fewer citizens on the planet, and firm control over the reigns of power across the globe. But Nature, as the dealer in this game, has a few cards up her sleeve and will be tossing jokers right and left as part of the chaos. The near future will be an echo of 1939 Germany, with a little Mad Max, and not nearly as cheerful ending in six years.
and Christians in Israel get spat on, or worse.
and what of mussies there? no seat at the table.
Malthuss,
You got it all wrong…it seems the Christians were on fire, and the Israelites were trying to help….
Ok, here’s my timeline, there is overlap….
Time of mercy now concluding.
Peace shattered. Ongoing.
Economic collapse. Has begun.
Social collapse. See SF, ongoing.
Minor persecution. Vexx related, racial, sexual, religious, political, financial.
The warning. You are shown the state of your conscience by God.
The reprieve. The eye of the storm. You have 6 to 8 weeks to get good with God.
Time of refuges. Follow the flame, your angel to safety.
Divine chastisements. ..??
Reign of the Antichrist. Will stop the nuclear war, is tall, fit, dark, will be worshiped.
Three days of darkness. Whereby God purifies the earth.
The era of peace. Jesus comes to destroy the beast & reign in your hearts.
Tons more detail at countdowntothekingdom
Wow! Thank you.
No dates? Thank you, Sweet Mountain Jesus.
May His hand be upon you, ani.
Feelin much peace Jar, thnx.
RUfuckingkidding?
Not kidding.
Btw, the 6 to 8 weeks to get good with God follows the Warning immediately.
Also the one world gov + one world $ + major persecution is in there too, certainly when the antichrist steps up but as we can see it is all already in the works.
Israel/Palestine: Not Your Average Neighborhood
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“A thought such as: the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel.” ~ JHK
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Interesting you didn’t write State. You called Israel, at least there, a place.
Of course, people have a right, more or less, to exist in any place they choose, but they have– at least it helps– to get along with their neighbors.
I’m unsure people have a right to ‘affect’ an area with a particular State of affairs or, if they do, like the right to free speech, there will be consequences.
Why whatever could they be?
In any case…
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Mister Rogers Sings It’s You I Like
youtu.be/Mcq5oW0GvD8?si=Qb2QxD20dhvJSAWd
Israel As Mid-East Strategic ‘Panopticon’?
The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 2:26 am:
“If this Israel/Hamas thing is somehow some kind of Russian… ‘proxy chess-play’, say, to get NATO/USA away from Ukraine, then this Hamas-Israel attack will become a protracted/guerrilla/asymmetric war… until US… is sufficiently bankrupted and/or goes home for good.
Time will tell, (such as if ‘this time it’s different’).”
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I still stand by that.
How many Russians, ethnic Russians in Ukraine and Ukrainians died so far by US/NATO/Ukraine?
If I was Russian/Putin, Israel would likely be a target.
That ‘Jews have a right to a place called Israel’ would seem almost irrelevant in this context when your people are being slaughtered not too far away by American proxy while Israel is not only an ally of USA but as some say, a practical annex.
How was Israel’s defenses so easily breached by HAMAS? Maybe because they had a lot of help.
Occam’s razor/means, motive, opportunity.
until US… is sufficiently bankrupted and/or goes home for good
I posted this a while ago but right before a CFN thread expired. It bears repeating:
NATO has completely depleted their stock-piles on Putin’s Ukraine Stalemate (PUS). The American, UK, German, et al war cupboards are now bare. I wonder if a NATO-draining quagmire (PUS) was brilliant by Putin while everyone wonders this, that and the other.
That is, perhaps everyone wrongly assumes that Putin wants to win ASAP and, therefore, “He can’t win ASAP or he would.” On the other hand, what if PUS was his motive?
Putin gave the US every opportunity for peace. Then, finally, “OK, mofos. Let’s go.” BRICS big-time. Drain NATO. Ramp up Russian production of all things war. Battle-hardened military. [There is no amount of pushups in Kansas before going out to Chili’s can hold a candle to months of combat in the mud against NATO-supplied Ukrainian Nazis.] Stronger, growing alliances with the 80% of earth that has about had it with us Five Eyes and our Monopoly money anyway.
Putin is a very clever man.
I dare say smarter, even, than President Potatohead.
Taken at face-value, that seems to square with the razor, means, motive and opportunity.
By about a factor of millions.
The US has been out of weapons for months now, or so they tell us.
And yet, somehow, the Kiev regime still manages to shell both the troops and civilians in the Donbass. Where do they get the shells?
Every day they shell civilian infrastructure, and kill civilians, and yet it goes unremarked upon (unless the Mighty Wurlitzer blames it on Russia.)
No sanctions, no endless denunciations on blogs, no UN resolutions condemning the violence, no students marching around chanting “Death to Kiev/NATO”.
Find out who you are not allowed to criticize seems applicable here.
Good points.
I read and re-read comments above but I still have a feeling that nobody has put the pieces together.
I’ve got the feeling that our friend and former President Obama is knee deep in all of this current development. Biden and Harris are place holders. We aren’t protecting Israel. They are just a pawn in this game. Maybe Israel got suckered into this game with some worthless promises. At this point, either Israel takes out Iran or Iran takes out Israel. I would put my money on Iran. Over the past ten years we have assisted Iran with so many special favors. Why? Take a look at the relationship between the Obama Administration and Iran. Valarie Jarrett’s name comes up quite often as well as John Kerry, and a number of other high-ranking officials who are IRAN friendly. Is the game plan, Iran takes out Israel, then we take out Iran and we win the oil fields and the problem of Gaza, the West Bank etc. goes away.
Soros is funding many of the demonstrations. Why? What’s his M.O. Is the threat of war enough for people in the USA to say the hell with all of them in the Middle East. Are the demonstrations going to cause enough havoc in the U.S. or further lead to a false flag that will overwhelm us. There’s a game plan for all of us. So far, emotions are running the show. We better start looking at the pieces of this puzzle. They are right in front of us!
Venezuela welcomes Russian bombers in show of support for Maduro
“Russia has landed two nuclear-capable “Blackjack” bombers in Venezuela as part of a joint training exercise experts say is designed to showcase Moscow’s growing military prowess and shore up the position of Venezuela’s embattled president, Nicolás Maduro.” ~ The Guardian
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It’s Looking Like Another Failed Coup Attempt by the US and Its Puppet Guaido in Venezuela
The US cannot understand how loathed it is south of the border
“The failure of the latest coup plotted so carefully in the war rooms of the White House, Pentagon and CIA was pre-ordained as soon as it became clear that Washington’s chosen puppet Juan Gerardo Guaido Marquez was nothing more than a creation of theirs, meant to do the bidding of the plotters in DC.” ~ Common Dreams
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“The proven oil reserves in Venezuela are recognized as the largest in the world, totaling 300 billion barrels [2014]” ~ Wikipdia
Venezuelan oil is not light sweet it is sulfur heavy and takes a lot to refine.
Right! The US refineries are tooled to run light sweet from fracked wells.
This is an indication of the ignorance of the Biden Mob. Converting to Venezuelan oil is a high cost adventure and will result in a step back towards other high sulfur energy sources like coal.
BRICS++ 1. West 0
“The average quality of crude oil produced worldwide continues to
become heavier (higher density/more carbon rich) and sourer (higher in sulphur) as the light sweet crude oil fields are depleting…” ~ Petroleum Review, 2007
JHK, remember after 9/11 when you wanted to kill sandniggers?
You never apologized for that and I see you have a good reason for it – you are just as racist and murderous as you were then.
For somebody that keeps blabbing about psyops you really can be stupidly blind, you know?
I left a couple of comments on your podcast suggesting that you should ask questions. I will give you an example:
“Three weeks ago, the Middle East was on the verge of putting through the Abraham Accords that would have “normalized” relations between Israel and several states of the Arabian Peninsula, exchanges of ambassadors, openings to trade and such. Other Islamic nations in North Africa were expected to join anon. And just before the October 7 Hamas attack, Saudi Arabia was about to hold normalization talks with Israel. That’s all out the window.”
How can you have zero self-awareness when writing this? Can you at least ask yourself why this coincidence? Why did Israel’s security state failed EXACTLY like US on 9/11? Or you suddenly don’t believe in psyops anymore?
I give up – all MSM and the fringe media (like you) is either completely bought or made up of bots (AI or people but without any ability to learn).
One problem with the vaunted Abraham Accord plan as presented by Net was that Palestine was simply erased from the picture.
The actual owners of most of the the Zionists’ real estate. The timing was good for Hamas to remind teh world that this little game is not going to forward as Net proposes and fantasizes, “disappearing” the Palestinians and their rights and claims..
The second problem with the sequence of events was the mobbing of the Al Aqsa Mosque on Oct. 5. The Zionist nutters have made it be known that they intend to demolish and (re)build their temple right there. LOL. They are said to have their red heifers already primed and ready in some pens somewhere, for the required blood sacrifice.
[[Reminder: This is the 21st Century. ]]
Although there is no archeological evidence that there ever was a Jewish temple anywhere near there. Anyhow it wouldn’t matter because the mosque that is there now is the third-most holy site in Islam.
They are said to have their red heifers already primed and ready in some pens somewhere, for the required blood sacrifice. Reminder: This is the 21st Century.
What year, do you think, did religion expire?
No but fucking slaughtering cows as a religious practice did expire.
Must be nice to be a normal hard working Israeli when the government pays some of the population to never work, dress like its the 12th century and read the torah all day. Oh yeah and and favor the radical settlers that spit on christians and randomly invade Palestinian farms.
No one’s perfect and it can’t be easy to watch the shit unfolding in Israel and in one’s own backyard and with connections to both.
I’d like to see your consistent bi-weekly blog.
Everyone’s learning.
Barring neurological disorders, we all learn right up until our deaths.
“JHK, remember after 9/11 when you wanted to kill sandniggers?”
OMG.
Plus, LOL..
Because probably it was the Israeli sand niggers.
Well, ya learn something every day.
In Jim’s next life in the next universe, he might be script-writing for Broadway and/or Hollywood and won’t have to bother much with geopolitics, suburban sprawl or peak oil. In the case that he might have to for a particular play or film, they will hire consultants.
Life takes us down paths that aren’t necessarily ideal for our styles and personalities, etc..
Maybe like that film, Cloud Atlas.
I wonder what I’ll be doing in the next iteration of reality…
Also for anybody interested out there, there is solid evidence US and Israel created and supported Hamas. Look for videos from 2019 where Netanyahu begs arab nations to support Hamas: “If you support zionism, you NEED to support Hamas”.
Too bad our host is braindead, I would have asked him to comment on this.
Alastair Crooke on the mad-doggism of Netanyahu and his Amalek raving.
These people are stark raving mad. They think they are living in the world of 3000 years ago that some Babylonian rabbis dreamed up for a holy book.
You cannot make this stuff up.
httpZ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICvVngWFXuM
Congrats, James, you’ve been picked up by ZeroHedge, amongst other places I’ve noticed in the last several months.
Strange timing on the Abraham Accord that was soon to kick in. Golan Heights has never been considered Israeli territory until gas & oil were discovered there.
Interesting definition of Zionism, seems your definition is the accepted one, hard to argue against that, but there always seems to be an International objective of sorts thru international banking that is not even mentioned.
Those attacks against the Israelis sure look coordinated to a wider objective, how is it the intelligence services can pick up communications on the hospital bombing but never a mention of the major assault. Hmmm.
Stand with the citizens, but not a big fan of their government. The innocent are always the first to suffer and be forgotten. Sad days are upon us.
Stand with the citizens, but not a big fan of their government.
Well-said!
The Golan Heights will never be given up. It is the high ground with Syria.
@ PageMarker:
ZeroHedge used to carry JHK all the time, I think it was a few years ago. They stopped carrying him for a couple of years, but now he’s back.
“The pressure is on for Israel to re-think its furious response to the savage attacks of October 7. Yet, the threat to its survival has never been so stark.”
Israel “furious” response – killed 3000 children
Hamas “savage” attack – killed 1000? people, at least some of them probably killed by Israel (see reports from the Israeli prisoners). Not to mention that Hamas is a tool of US/Israel with funding well documented.
JHK, at the very least you should realize that your lizard brain is manipulated. Take some distance, read about the Kindgom of Outremer and realize that Israel’s days are numbered. There is a chance some (or all) Israeli citizens might be saved and relocated (Russia offered, US might help) but the good news is that Christians, Jewish and Moslems lived in relative peace in the middle east for a long time. The only times when they murdered each other is when the western crusaders (aka imperialists) intervened.
Note: this is for other interested readers, I know JHK is not capable of learning. Most people have rigid thought processes after adolescence and this is most visible in people raised in the US empire (followed closely by Brits and Germans).
Bullshit detectors are going off everywhere. Those “peaceful” Muslims invaded and occupied Europe first, almost five centuries before the first Crusade. Not to get all schoolyard on you but they started it.
Israel v. Jihadi is just a sideshow for the main event, the West v Jihadi, the Reconquista, part 2. And last I checked, Outremer didn’t split the atom so if Israel is indeed on borrowed time, there are going to be a healthy sampling of glow-in-the-dark theme parks that used to be Arab capitals. Armageddon bitchez!!!
You do standup too, I take it? I’d like to sit in on one of your shows.
Do you have any money? Most people who think like you are dependent on government transfer payments or student loan forgiveness for their ethnic studies degrees. I would need to see cash up front.
Nah. I’ve humbly served the empire as a low level functionary my entire life.
Western Crusader lol. Mongol hordes swept thru Asia & into the Levant in the mid 13th century putting entire Muslim cities to the sword. Islam was nearly stamped out. Luckily for Europe gallant Teutonic Knights & Knights Templar stopped the Mongols on the Plains of Hungary, keeping them out of Europe.
And we want Constantinople back.
The Mongol hordes.. aren’t they the ancestors of the Turks, and a group called the Khazars?
No, the slaves soldiers of the Egyptian Sultanate, the Mamelukes, defeated them. The European Knights were defeated. Or maybe we’re both right at different times.
The Muslims produced superb slave soldiers, both with Mamelukes and later, the Janissaries. Or are all soldiers slaves?
Is every woman your superior officer or just your wife? In any case, true warriors who choose when and why they fight are very rare. Too rare to really matter in warfare, alas.
The Horde was recalled back to Mongolia after the Khan died. That’s what saved Western Europe.
On the other hand, Western Europe was more powerful than Eastern – with far more castles. Castles were hard for the horsemen to deal with. It took time to get all the siege equipment ready, and they were very far from their power base (China) that would have all that.
Correction: “realize that NOT all jewish people are murderous psychopaths”
Oops, as a jew it seem that I hate myself…
Zilch nada has no clue as to what a fascist is.
Yesterday, when informed of the story that Matthew Perry beat-up Justin Trudeau in Grade 5 in Ottawa, FF opined:
… they both turned out to be fascist pieces of shit.
Trudeau obviously is a fascist. No argument there.
But I had never heard of Matthew Perry being a fascist. So I asked for more.
Zilcher then proudly pointed to the well-known incident of Perry selling T-shirts for charity along with a pro-vaxx message. And that’s it!
Matthew Perry never instituted a mandate. Matthew Perry never said, “No groceries!” No. Duped Matthew Perry shilled for money. Matthew Perry was worth $120mm and still shilling. Matthew Perry is a simple capitalist by any definition.
And yet FF crowed so mindless and confidently.
You see, Zilcher appears to think that entertainment media-whore shills exercising their free speech is fascism if he disagrees with it. Or perhaps he thinks that nurses and medical volunteers are all fascists. Perhaps he even thinks that all those that agreed with Matthew Perry’s free speech and willingly received their jabs (i.e. the duped) are all fascists (i.e. “Fascists everywhere!”).
If that were so, then all Western nations are now vast-majority fascist.
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Zilcher can’t help it. [Well, ok, he should cut down on the soy. I’ll give you that.]
My point is, women and girly-men think purely in terms of, “I like him!” and “I don’t like him!”
That’s it. That’s their basis for everything.
I know it well.
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To those men here on CFN who are roughly JHK’s age and think that I’m out-to-lunch on this, I say:
Easy for you to say with your pre-Kramer vs. Kramer last-generation-of-the-good-ones wife.
Women born before JFK had his head blown apart in Dallas are the bee’s knees. Of those born afterwards, bee’s knees are needles in haystacks.
Cops changed too. They lost all respect for the American people at some point in the 60’s. Kerouac talked about this. And of course the people did get worse. Hitchhiking ceased to be safe.
A comment at Moon of Alabama:
“The creation of Israel after WW2 was an interesting experiment; of course the treatment of Palestinians was shocking and disgraceful, but if it had worked it might be the blueprint for the creation of Apache and Souix states in North America, an Aboriginal State in Australia, hundreds of tribal states in Africa etc…
But it didn’t work because the Israelis failed to integrate with their new neighbours. After nearly 80 years of Israeli genocide and war crimes it is time to call the experiment to a halt.. . .”
… it is time to call the experiment to a halt.
Not likely.
So what do we do about the 80 years of Arab genocide “ We are going to drive the Jews into the Med”, the three wars initiated by the Arabs, the over and over harassment by rockets.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
Have you ever integrated with your neighbor when they had a 30-06 pointed at you?
The one way attribute is all over you and you have lots of company. I cannot believe how anti-Semitic this country is now.
I cannot believe how anti-Semitic this country is now.
OOPS! There it is! The coward’s last canard.
@Jimmy:
Why don’t you tell me you generally like Jews, then. I’ll wait for your answer.
They scream about being anti-Fascist or National Socialist (NAZI) while taking up many of its root belief systems.
If we ever take America back, are we really going to allow Feminism, Marxism, and Libertarian Communism to be taught in our colleges? These are mind viruses. Many will never recover once infected.
Our foolishly “open” society allowed for evil to grow everywhere like weeds. The “Fascists” (could you even define this to save your life?) were and are far wiser.
correction: Libertarian Capitalism
My husband said that same thing the other day, JohnAZ. Who knew?
It’s all out in the open now, though.
I wonder why this country might be becoming more “anti-semitic.”
BTW, you could educate yourself on the origins of this BS word here (at least, check out the cartoons):
httpZ://johnhelmer.net/jewish-anti-semitism-towards-arabs-was-hamass-strategic-opportunity-on-october-7-still-is/
most people don’t know what is really going on. Fortunately this good person has made what is probably the best documentary on the subject I have seen and I hope the whole world sees it. Because we have all been played.
StopWorldControl.com/Israel
Thank you. One person on this site with perspective
Genocide lol
I learned something yesterday I bet few if any here are aware of. NY Jets head coach, Robert Saleh, is a Muslim of Lebanese extraction. He is the first and only NFL Muslim head coach to date.
So what!!
He is a manager and an American. Anything else is divisive.
Good Muslims like football! Anyone who doesn’t isn’t American even if White and supposedly Christian.
How could a Christian not like football?
How could a Christian not like football?
Now that’s funny! I’m still chuckling.
Knew he was Lebanese, but are you sure he’s Muslim? I haven’t heard that.
but are you sure he’s Muslim? – J Word
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I read it on google. I did not see him kneeling down forehead to the ground facing Mecca.
This is a brilliant exposition by Richard Medhurst of the role played by gas and oil politcs in the Oct. 7 event.
As he says, you cannot understand ME politics with out understanding gas and oil: the location of reserves, the plans to find and develop new fields, the plans to cut out some suppliers (Russia, Iran, the two biggest) and invest in others.
That is what Net was up to at the UN as he flourished his big map with the magic marker line on it. That was what Hamas was not going to allow to fly.
Try harder. Look deeper.
httpZ://rumble.com/v3rx4f7-the-hidden-reasons-behind-the-war-on-gaza.html
All the comments are interesting but meaningless.
The owner of the Levant in 2030 is going to be the one with the biggest guns.
History gives a hint of who that might be.
I think the current state of Israel will remove all the Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank, and get the “pure Jewish state” that many, perhaps most, “Jews” (but not all) wanted.
And in the process, this will be, not the straw, but the brick, that breaks the US camel’s back.
The Israeli tail has wagged the US dog for 60 years now, since LBJ took over, and quietly let Israel shoot up the USS Liberty. I’m surprised a good Republican such as yourself doesn’t take umbrage that LBJ did this because he did not wish to offend Jewish donors who provided half the Democrat party’s funds. But I digress….
When the big dog, the USA, gets weak, or even dies, Israel will be finished. As it is, Israel has always gotten massive amounts of outside aid, both public and private. It’s not as stand alone as people like to think.
Now, Israel will NOT have the “problem” of policing the Palestinians. But it will be surrounded by hostile nations, with no US cavalry to save them, just the threat of MAD (mutually assured destruction, as if Israel can nuke their neighbors, but then some one else will nuke Israel. Of course, Israel has foreseen that, so they have their own triad, with a few nuclear-missile equipped subs, which can effectively destroy Russia, China, and also the US). All this in an increasingly resource-constrained world, where, as others here note, BRICS has most of the oil, a lot of food, and most of the productive capacity, while the US military erodes, buying every more pricey weapons in far fewer numbers, and using wokeness as a promotion criteria, and the public and economy grapple with “leverage in reverse” as the financial system breaks down, as the medical system breaks down, as America ages.
That may mean that NO ONE gets the Levant, as a nuclear-armed Israel has the means to end life on the planet as we know it.
That’s probably the time of the 2nd Coming, when God will give the “Levant” to His chosen people and prevent mankind from blowing up earth.
But, between that place and now, things will get more difficult and rougher for most people in the world, and very difficult and rough for some.
I hope I’m wrong on the removal of the Palestinians. But does it matter? This bombing campaign has created so much suffering and hatred, the actual Hamas attack and subsequent demonization of Palestinians have created a lot animosity. Bad feelings on both sides, one side has the power, and that’s why I see the Palestinians being removed now, and I speculate as to the after-effects
You think God will swoop down and yell, “Cut, cut, cut,” to prevent nuclear catastrophe?
He might. He could if He wanted to.
George Clooney, with a little makeup of course, would make a good God I think.
Yes, Morgan Freeman is getting a little old to play God. But my vote is for Sam Bank-Man-Freed, the Bubba Free John of our times.
… a nuclear-armed Israel has the means to end life on the planet as we know it.
Israel has nukes? Are you sure?
OG,
Well, no one knows (wink, wink). Intelligence estimates that they have between 75 and 400 bombs available, and they have the nuclear triad as means of delivery.
Also, their “Samson” gambit, a known part of their warfighting doctrine, suggests access.
But who knows (giggle, snort).
Ef, nobody knows. Except all the giggles and snorts do glow in the dark.
This campaign has created animosity??? Where have you been? Read From Time Immemorial.
God?
‘Who comes as aweful as an army in battle array?’.
In some cases, might does make right. A multitude of European settlers pushed into what is now the USA, populated by a lesser armed and sparse population. Similar is the story of Israel.
Problem is, sometimes things go in reverse. Multitude of people again push into USA, populated by non-breeding fatsos and perverts.
I used to think a fat Israel, from Sinai to Euphrates, would be good for us Hindus in India for various reasons. Could be why the current BJP government is supportive of Israel.
Having seen the Hamas in action though, I feel otherwise. The Arabs, Persians and Anatolians are getting stronger and more united as they have a common enemy (with its sugar daddy).
Maybe Israel should go (Soviets have an oblast just for them), and the Arabs can go back to warring among themselves.
And the Persians and Arabs don’t have their own sugar daddy?
Interesting question.
Expanding a little, has BRICS++ set up funding for their pushes against the West.
Think Iran, what do they want?
Elimination of Israel, yes!!
Elimination of the West, with the Great Satan, from influence in the ME?
With the latter, how far will the West go to protect its oil-gas interests?
Is this conflict the beginning of the BRICS++ – West economic and physical war? China and Russia both are backing the Arab side, although Russia seems busy with another BRICS++ – West confrontation.
This is already a world war, just not a lot of shooting
YET.
Stalin gave them one in Siberia – the southern part, so a climate like southern Canada but for naught. They had no interest once Israel was born. They became “Americans” at that point. Communism was only ever a vehicle. Here’s the big secret: So is Capitalism and America.
I was just thinking about that: Indians are gaining strength in the West and they are all going to be Neo-Conservatives or Neo-Liberals. All for Israel in other words.
But so are Pakistanis. They will not be for Israel, not really.
Who will be for the native Whites? No one. There’s no money in it. Enoch Powell warned us – and even then that made him a pariah. Even then! The Plan is deep and well laid.
It was amazing history to see the first thing the US Congress voted and passed after all the turmoil. Was a bill that Israel had the right to defend itself.
I don’t think this country, the USA, could make a buck without bombing someone. No we really have one export and that’s
MOR WAR
Merica
I’d prefer the U.S. to either stay out of Israel’s conflicts with total neutrality, or to use involvement as a means to then go whole-hog towards suppressing jihadism…one or the other.
I oppose the blank check from the U.S. to Israel, and having Israel-backing being practically the Alpha and Omega of U.S. ME policy.
Otherwise, Israel’s business is Israel’s business.
The ADL controls DC. After being elected to the People’s House, one must swear allegiance to Israel or they will Cynthia McKinney your ass.
A or B.
To the extent this is true, it is significantly enabled by assenting U.S. public opinion and/or U.S. public apathy.
So many love to blame so much on the machinations of the powerful. Few ever blame the dopey and irresponsible mindsets of the public.
[T]he dopey and irresponsible mindsets of the public is such a given now that, tragically, removing the ADL’s vice-like grip on DC is the path of least resistance.
@gus:
Yes, so true.
” The owner of the Levant in 2030 is going to be the one with the biggest guns. ”
No.
The history of the United States , from Vietnam to Ukraine ,
should have demonstrated that ultimately it really doesn’t matter who wins the war.
What matters is , after the guns are laid down , as they inevitably must be ,
who does the primary demographic on the ground consider the legitimate fishing license issuers to be ?
Again , I should think a clearer example would be to go a bit further back in your history ,
and ask why Jim Crow was still a thing a hundred years after your supposed victory in the American Civil War ,
and why , to bring things up to date , why the attempted stigmatization of the Confederacy has so quickly morphed into a stigmatization of White America as a whole.
Again , war , as god – awful as it is , is the easy part.
The peace , specifically legitimacy , is the hard part you have to win.
Returning to the American Civil War ,
the outrageously funny part is that you DID finally win the war , a hundred years later . —-
— And promptly fumbled the ball with that silly , ” The winners write the history books ” bullshit.
They don’t write shit unless the primary demographic identifies them as the legitimate and preferred authority.
It does make a lot of sense. Who do you feel like your authority centers are. Many people, including Mr. K are not seeing the legitimacy of the current regime and so they see the current situation as being leaderless. Others who are ok with the current woketocracy feel like they have a leader in Joe Biden, or whomever “Joe Biden” is.
Good post, Kesa. See, sometimes I do appreciate you.
Back around May JHK opined that Biden would be gone by July 4th. July 4th came and went and Biden was still there. Then Jim said Biden would be gone by Halloween. A few minutes ago Halloween arrived and Biden is still here.
I just wanted to remind you that Jim’s predictions are not good. Should we begin to assume that Biden will last the entire 4 years?
Is Joe Biden really still here with us, Q? He may be here with us physically, I suppose. But mentally. Do you really think he is here with us? You take things so verbatim lol. There are so many levels of understanding that you just need to think a little bit more through things maybe.
“It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
– The Immortal Yogi Berra –
More apropos,
“When you come to a fork in the road, take it”.
In my remaining lifetime, there will not be another Yogi. Too bad, so sad.
Netflix doc on now about him. I watched about half of it last night. Quite the character and quite the athlete as well. He welcomed being made fun of, but it partially eclipsed his athletic talents, which were even more exceptional. One of only three in MLB history (Ruth, DiMaggio, and Berra) with at least 350 HRs and less than 500 strikeouts (361/369).
Yeah, I watched a lot of Yankee-Red Sox games and I don’t remember him striking out.
Wow the uninformed Jew hatred has really bubbled over.
7 million measly jews on 8000 square miles of arid land surrounded by a billion hostile neighbors.
A veneer of legitimacy financed by the Russians, brokered by ion pacepa of Romania and delivered by Egyptian Palestinian shil yassir Arafat and you gullible Jew haters have slurped the whole thing up.
Equating the irgun and king David hotel with the 48000 acts of terrorism by Islamists in the last 40 years- much Muslim on Muslim or directed against innocents with nothing to do with Israel or the great Satan (think boko haram) requires a new level of delusional contortion.
They’re just self congratulatory over achievers and if they’d just Stop being so obstreperous they’d realize they could have a Nice treaty with people sworn to eradicate them.
And to think we ever wondered how the good Germans could’ve ever fallen for Adolf.
My only hope and suspicion is that a god number of you are bots.
Well i’ve never intimated that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist. I also find it quite interesting and suspect too that no Arab nation is willing to take in the Palestinians. So the Palestinians should have a homeland as well. But the true reality is that, like I really don’t want to be caught up in all of this. Nor do I feel like I need to be bundled in with Germans per se.
That’s an interesting expression “a god number of you are bots” lol. You know, bot swarms can destroy your life. So be careful what you wish for. But really, I think emotions and feelings are just at a very intense level so some things need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
Again, Jordan was created for displaced people when Israel was partitioned.
Well, SSL, Israel does not give a damn whether we think they have a right to exist.
The two state solution was rooted in the UN work in 1947 and 1948. The heart of all diplomatic work from 1917 on was the creation of a two state solution.
The Arabs walked away from that in 1948 and decided to settle the issue by driving the Jews into the sea. Abbas, the Palestinian leader, admitted as much saying is was an Arab mistake to walk away and that allowed the Zionists room to fight back against the Arabs. The original charter that a two state Palestine should evolve is now under attack by the Abraham stuff that will cast legitimacy on the Israel state and cast the Palestinians to the winds. Anyone find a home for them under the new accords?
Hence the Arab League plus Iranian attack with Hamas to stop the proceedings and re-polarize the region.
No serious attempt has been made by the Arab League since 1948 to settle the issue. Israel has had it and has told the world right now that it has finished trying to work with a bunch of Arabs and will just take care of itself.
And it will!
Benr
Israel has kicked the hell out of the Arabs plus Iran over and over, acquiring territory with each victory.
Then given it all back, except the Golan Heights, in land for peace deals.
Big mistake, but it shows where Israels heart is.
And it really shows where the Arab heart is as they repudiate every deal or concession they get.
If Israel really wanted all the imperialism that folks are saying they do, right now they would own the Sinai, the West Bank, half of Lebanon, and Gaza. They don’t, having given them all back.
Is Israel like Charlie Brown and the football?
Yup, or maybe they are being dictated to by the USA.
Israel has kicked the hell out of the Arabs ..due to Uncle $am.
The most important thing they gave back was that mosque.
That pissed off the Christans that wanted it for their Armageddon plans.
But now they have the radical Jews on their side, newly immigrated, trying to get it back.
This is not a good thing.
If only everyone who just worship at Lenin’s tomb! Then there could be peace in the world – the peace of death.
measly?
surrounded by a billion hostile neighbors..then why do they move there?
Sounds like imprudence to me.
@chimayred:
Unfortunately that is most likely not true. Sigh.
JHK
what the hell has happened to your readership??
For several years I thought they were well read and informed?
Now they smell like bot infested trolls enamored with fringe history and positively salivating with the thought that the final solution may be revived.
What we have with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is two groups of people fighting over a piece of real estate. In war, a lot of innocent people get killed–on both sides. Usually, whoever kills the most people wins, so it’s silly to complain that one side or the other is killing people.
The legality or otherwise of the real estate ownership is neither here nor there. Legality has never counted for anything with regard to wars or disputed territorial claims by nations, ethnicities, races, or religions.
As far as I can tell from talking with people around here, people are siding with whoever gets to them first with the most pictures of dead children, or who can tell the best sob-story.
I see no tendency in my area for people to go all anti-semitic. But what I do see on internet blogs is that Jews have largely lost the sympathy and support of a lot of people, and the main reason is that Jews have made themselves the most ardent and visible supporters of lawlessness, degeneracy, and wokeness–and they’ve done it “every single time” some such issue comes up. They support BLM, Antifa, the LGBT crowd, and lawlessness and looting in our cities. They supported all the covid measures; they supported the vaccines. They are anti-Second Amendment, and anti-First Amendment. Jews have never seen a liberal cause they didn’t like, and in many cases they were the real and original organizers of such “movements.”
Our widely despised federal government is very heavily over-represented with Jews. So is our widely despised mainstream media. And so is our widely despised entertainment industry.
Maybe Jews of this kind can and should be distinguished from “ordinary Jews”–who, in my experience are mostly conservatives (here in fly-over country). And of course “ordinary Jews” can be annoying, but so can ordinary non-Jews (though Jews may have a slight edge).
I think people are just growing disinclined to be sympathetic towards Jews, mainly because the worst among them are continually in our faces, pushing degeneracy and lawlessness. To put it maybe a little too harshly, maybe Jews should get some moral standards.
Well said.
“… Jews have made themselves the most ardent and visible supporters of lawlessness, degeneracy, and wokeness ….”
That explains THEM in a nutshell and aligns perfectly with Proverbs 6:16-19.
Many years ago, I used to point out and elaborate on such Jewish maliciousness. Particularly the uniquely Jewish hatred against Whites and the ones they hate the most: the Straight White Male. I was booted off of CFN twice.
But, the gods saw how I was silenced for rightly calling out The Guilty. And so it came to pass that the gods caused Mr Kunstler to condemn his own Tribe by calling attention to their countless sins and the actors/actresses who did them. Indeed, the gods COMPELLED him and it won’t be long before HE finally names his own Tribe as Exhibit “A” or, the Common Denominator, in all the aforementioned crimes of the Zionists.
While I have been content to stay in the background, I have been watching how the seeds I planted many years ago are finally bearing sweet fruit. And a special Thank You Hamas for finally breaking the ice.
You have addressed a real conundrum,
Why the heck are Jews predominately Democrat?
It brings up Charlie Brown again. Do they think the GOP is anti-Semitic? No, the Democrats under Obama are anti-Semitic. So why do the Jews trust the Dems with their votes.
We have a Jewish friend that will vote against the GOP until the day she dies. Why? She has no answer, just the Dems are the good guys.
I read a book by the former Israeli ambassador to the USA during Obama times. Boy oh boy, Obama treated Israel like a second class nation, over and over.
We do have a significant portion of our population that are anti-Israel if not anti-Semitic.
How come? The Jews need to address this question.
And Marxism, Bolshevism, and Communism are Jewish in origin. And the oligarchs who stripped Russia of its assets after the fall of the USSR were Jews. And the elements of the US power structure who promoted the destruction of Ukraine are predominantly Jews. The people who’ve fought tooth an nail to destroy virtually all of our public institutions (education, for one), conduct lawfare, and undermine our Constitutional rights (most notably the First and Second Amendments) are ubiquitously Jewish. I could go on and on, but all this has been covered elsewhere.
Some commenters, both here and elsewhere, like to tell us that we need to fight the Muslims because their stated goal is to take over the world, and if we don’t fight them, the US will be ruled by Muslims (kind of like Great Britain). On the other hand, we are already, to quite a large degree, ruled by Jews, with the resulting lawlessness and degeneracy. At least half of our population is aggrieved by that.
I admit that I am puzzled as to why Jewish politcal and social power in the US has been–quite deliberately, it seems–so bent on destruction. I think that one possibility is that there is an intention to reduce it to the condition of the former USSR at the time of its collapse, so the US can likewise be asset-stripped–though there is probably more to it.
I would assume that little benefit from all this will accrue to your normal “little Jew,” running a clothing store or jewelry store, or working as an accountant for some large private or government entity–except maybe quite a bit of preference for employment or acceptance into the more prestigious universities. So they may feel that the “big Jew” has their back. I don’t know. I also don’t know how it ends. Probably kind of like the Middle East, where this crap goes on forever.
Their leaders [ rulers ] lie to them just like our leaders lie to us. Their cultural solidarity keeps them in line through fear [ everyone hates us ] while ours [ to each his own ] keeps us fighting with each other.
The fog of this war is actually a deadly superfog. So it is unfortunate to see so many rushing to quick conclusions and saying things they may very well regret later. You can hear the meltdowns and bursts somewhere out there in the gray misty confusion. It may be better to go really slow. Like barely move. And be willing to negotiate with all sides. Because literally stuff is coming out of nowhere at this point and you can’t see it coming.
> the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel
Presumably, Mr Kunstler means “the Israelis have a right to live in a place called Israel”
Ironically, it’s the exclusion of non-Jewish citizens from equal democratic participation in the entity called “Israel” than many people find repellant, and which contradicts Mr Kunstler’s claim.
@Richardlyon
You might want to research exactly who is serving and elected to the Israeli Senate.
Hint there are Israeli Arabs serving RIGHT now.
Not a perfect country but so few are in fact the Palestinians are given rights in Israel rights NO OTHER ARAB country affords them at this time but you know Israel is evil.
I have been reading about the Arab situation in Israel. They were given Israeli citizenship by the Israeli Declaration of Independence but have settled into a situation where they play poor widdle me and we will drive the Jews into the sea.
Hmmm, does that sound familiar, a minority group that crawls into a gimme hole and tries to influence the government to support them? No wonder Soros picks the BLM to lead the protests in the US.
Jewish 74%, Muslims 21%, the rest others.
Israel, unfortunately, has never separated church and state legally claiming they are a secular nation. The founders saw what happens when religion is allowed to dominate politics, maybe Israel needs to do the same.
You’re right, but that will also never happen. They were founded based on religious belief.
“Israel needs to do the same.”-JAZ
Will Pakistan, SArabia, Iran, Afghanistan be separating Church (Mosque) & State?
Actually in Israel religion doesn’t really dominate its politics the way Islam does in the above mentioned countries. Israel is the Jewish State but its politics remain pretty secular.
Are you sure, Heckler?
Netanyahu’s Holy war: Israeli PM quotes the Bible and says ‘this is a time for war’ as he vows to ‘resign Hamas to the dustbin of history’
‘The Bible says there is a time for peace and a time for war. This is a time for war,’ the Israeli PM told a press conference.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12689749/Netanyahus-Holy-war-Israeli-PM-quotes-Bible-says-time-war-vows-resign-Hamas-dustbin-history.html
Diversity destroys. And Cult is the basis of real Culture. The Jews know how to survive. They KNOW that the Muslims will outbreed them. Thus they are taking action before they lose their nation.
They have wandered far from their religious roots – but not as far as us. They at least remember some of the practical teachings of the Old Testament – even if they don’t want to live by all those commandments. There are over 600 that an Orthodox Jew has to follow.
People who don’t know much talk about Muslims being in the Israeli Sentate like it’s a good thing. That’s a disaster for Israel. Just like our diversity is a disaster for us. Wake up people. The hour is late.
So I suppose every ethnic, racial, or religious group is “entitled to exist” in a country of their choosing? If so, I would presume that the Palestinians also have a “right to exist” in Israel. While we’re at it, we should probably make sure that Paris is restored to the Huguenots, since they were persecuted (massacred) there, back in the 1500s. We should also guarantee the Lakota an autonomous nation in the Black Hills.
This whole idea that Israel or anyone else is “entitled to exist” as a nation in their chosen location is ridiculous on its face.
Mary: Anyone should be able to go anywhere and do anything.
Should. Right. Just like a little Black boy who wants to be an astronaut should be allowed to do so – even if he’ll never be able to understand what a variable is?
“There are some who doubt the authenticity of the [ Pike/Mazinni letter. But regardless of its origin, it has all come to pass. If it were a fake, it was a brilliant fake that was clearly adopted by hidden forces and implemented in the decades after it was written. There was even a comedian in the early 1890’s who took credit for writing the letter as a spoof. Really? If so, he must have been a tremendously gifted prophet without knowing it. It is more likely that the Illuminati were alarmed that the letter came to light and hired the comedian to take credit for it.
The fact that this comedian took credit for the letter proves the existence of that letter. And if it existed before the 1890’s, it is remarkable that the plan called for the Communist Revolution (1917) and also foretold—decades in advance—the rise of the Nazis in Germany in the 1930’s.
The letter anticipated the establishment of an Israeli state (1948) and used political terms that were unknown to the general public until later. Those terms were already in use privately by the top Illuminati leaders who were overseeing the Pike Plan.”
Trust the Plan
godskingdom.org/blog/2023/10/sliding-toward-world-war-3-and-what-you-need-to-know/
First I’ve ever heard of that, thanks. I’ll take a look today.
@OG and @messianicdruid, Thank you for the link. Very interesting.
I’m superficially familiar with Adam Weishaupt and the Illuminati. I understood them to be a conspiracy against the established order of princes and the Catholic Church.
Perhaps you’ve heard of “None Dare Call It Conspiracy” by Larry Abraham.
While anyone can write anything anywhere on-line, I will say the letter makes for interesting reading, and is plausible, since Luciferians is another name for Satanists, and it makes sense they seek to overthrow the ultimate establishment, which is God.
The letter totally omits the role of money. BIG Money. Think Rothschilds and JP Morgan, and the descendants thereof. Not all big money is Jewish, of course, but since it is disproportionately Jewish, it cannot be discussed or questioned, since that is considered “anti-Semitic”
And that works for the globalist, since those pulling the strings, big money, wish to remain secret until it is time.
The globalists (who are also, knowingly or not, Satanists) have LONG sought world domination through financial manipulation.
World domination means “being God”, which is anti-God, and thus Satanic.
The Illuminatti, Karl Marx, Maynard Keynes, in the past, “wokeness” today…they have all been funded by “big capital”, with the intention of sowing confusion and conflict amongst the public, while big capital goes on behind the scenes making money via government debt, and better yet, war.
Look at how divided this space is now! Look at how COVID divided society, by peeling away a good portion of the remaining “awake” minority.
Of the few countries big capital does not control, or have great influence over, the most important is Russia. Hence the war in Ukraine. Even China is, at this time, subordinated to the DOLLAR-DENOMINATED global money system, which is controlled by the (cult-like) globalists.
Why exactly did Balfour issue his famous declaration? To curry favor with England’s Jewish tailors, lawyers, and accountants in 1917? Please!
Why did the US join WW1, an event which, in my opinion, altered the course of European, indeed world, history, more than any event of the past thousand years? To “make the world safe for democracy?” Come on!
The plan is plausible. If it is a genuine letter, your “tremendously gifted prophet” was gifted by the forces of darkness, which are very powerful, but which are ultimately no match for the forces of light (God).
Not all big money is Jewish, of course, but since it is disproportionately Jewish, it cannot be discussed or questioned, since that is considered “anti-Semitic”
Thank you. I had been struggling to say exactly that. Well said!
The much loved little Jewish grocers, tailors and shop keepers will hate you with a passion if you say this. Say goodbye to your shirt.
But why?! Because they identify with them. They, the toes, identify with their own head. They have a Unity as a Body or People that we have never had. Watch and learn, little ones. This is how it’s done. This is a real Nation – one that can exist even without a physical locus, though of course they love having one.
Oh btw, they know. They just don’t want you to know.
We don’t actually know who owns and controls the biggest banks, and the biggest corporations, but you are right, that the accusation is made that it is “Da Joos”, precisely so that looking into it is considered antisemitic.
Personally, I was ripped off mostly by Bank of America, probably because I grew up in California, and it is an Italian bank.
The Vatican Bank is quite powerful, but you will never hear anyone mention that, unless they talk about the Rothchilds, but they don’t actually ever draw the connection.
I agree that we are not allowed to question just who our owners are, but I would disagree that you can draw the conclusion from that, that ” it is disproportionately Jewish”, although that is definitely what our ruling overlords want us to think.
Looks like sleight of hand, to me. “Look over there, not over here.”
Yes, we do know. But yes, there are non-Jews in Capstone too. Politics doesn’t always reduce to just money. People outside the West still value other things.
[Galatians 4:4 NKJV] 4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
Jesus came to earth at exactly the time chosen by God, after 10 of the 12 original tribes of Israel had been conquered and exiled by Assyria and scattered to the diaspora, after the remaining tribes, now known primarily as Judea (was the tribe of Judah) had their temple destroyed and had been conquered and carried into captivity by Babylon, after they returned and rebuilt the temple, after they were conquered by the Greek empire, granting the entire region a common language (Greek), then after they were conquered by the Roman empire. That is the fullness of God’s timing, perfect for Messiah.
Jesus was constantly having to educate His disciples that His kingdom was not of this earth, that He had not come to liberate Israel from the Roman overlords. Jesus predicted the destruction of the rebuilt temple and in fact blamed it on the Jews refusal to repent to God and turn from their sin by following His commands. This is the same reason Assyria and Babylon were sent, and this time Rome did the job.
[Matthew 23:37-39 – 24:2 NKJV] “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under [her] wings, but you were not willing! “See! Your house is left to you desolate; “for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed [is] He who comes in the name of the LORD!’ ”
Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not [one] stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”
When the Jew persecuted Jesus, they convinced the Roman governor to let them crucify Him:
[Matthew 27:22-23, 25 NKJV] 22 Pilate said to them, “What then shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ?” [They] all said to him, “Let Him be crucified!” 23 Then the governor said, “Why, what evil has He done?” But they cried out all the more, saying, “Let Him be crucified!” … 25 And all the people answered and said, “His blood [be] on us and on our children.”
Jesus taught that His kingdom was not of this world. He instructed His disciples not to fight against Roman oppression, but to submit to the earthly government that God had appointed over them, and that they would inherit the whole earth one day.
Abraham himself knew this:
[Hebrews 11:8-10, 12-16 NKJV] By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as [in] a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise; for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker [is] God. … Therefore from one man, and him as good as dead, were born [as many] as the stars of the sky in multitude–innumerable as the sand which is by the seashore. These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced [them] and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. And truly if they had called to mind that [country] from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly [country]. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.
This is why all Christians who are considered the seed of Abraham through faith in Jesus, look forward to inheriting a New Jerusalem, not in this life, but in the next.
[Hebrews 12:18-19, 22-24 NKJV] For you have NOT come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest, and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard [it] begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore. … But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the HEAVENLY Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn [who are] registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than [that of] Abel.
Christian Zionists in the UK and US conceived of and funded modern-day Israel primarily because they misunderstood this truth, just as Jesus’ disciples did while living under Roman occupation. That is not to say that Jews didn’t and don’t have the same desire and right to live in peace as most humans everywhere do. It is to say that motives of Zionist Christians were actually self-serving, thinking Israel needed to exist and have a rebuilt temple before end time prophecy could come to pass. Many Orthodox Jews share this Christian view that Israel does not need “that” highly contested patch of land, but they can practice Judaism faithfully anywhere.
Many countries freely offered land to establish a Jewish state, including some Russian territory that had millions of Jews already living there. Modern-day Israel is a secular state, yet they refer to the biblical scriptures (the supernatural content of which they don’t believe as a nation) as a legitimate claim to the land. This seems hyporcritical.
However, what is done is done. Modern-day Israel was founded on the might of the British Empire and the US dollar in what can only be described as empiric colonialism. This is very similar to the way that the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and many other regions around the world were established by western empire, at the expense of the indigenous people already there. If Israel has no right to exist, then we should be consistent and say the same of the US and Australia. Many western colony nations today still have troubled relations with displaced and dispossessed indigenous people, but giving up and leaving is not being discussed anywhere but Israel.
I meant to say many Orthodox Jews share this Christian view that I described from scripture above, that Israel does not need “that” highly contested and historic patch of land…
@Nathan @OG The Battle of Kosovo. 1389. The Serbs lost, essentially dooming the Orthodox Christians of the Balkans to four centuries of occupation, subjugation, and abuse by the Turks.
Serbian tradition is that Prince Lazar saw a vision of a gray falcon that offered him the eternal kingdom of heaven.
The price for the heavenly reward, however, was defeat and death for the Serb forces. The alternative offered to Lazar was a kingdom on earth and victory over the Ottomans.
Lazar chose the former and ensured a heavenly destination for the Serbian people forever.
Over the next four centuries, hundreds of thousands of Orthodox were killed by the Turks for preaching the word of God, or refusing to renounce their faith. They left the earthly world to live in the Heavenly Kingdom.
Since the 1300s, the Orthodox peoples of this world, for the most part, have known little freedom. After 1945, the Slavs fell under Communism (a Western virus).
The Greeks had have been “independent” longest, for 200 years, but not really free, as the great powers have been meddling since day one, and the Greeks have been unable to unite and expel them. However, in Greece, people stopped being killed for their faith.
At this time, the peoples of the Balkans, are under de facto control of the “West” (except Serbia, which is still subject to considerable Western influence and pressure), but the peoples of the Balkans are not Western.
There is a spiritual dimension to everything going on. While it’s over my head, it seems to me that
battle lines are being drawn: those who write using Latin characters (the West) and their ally Israel vs everyone else.
And, to your point, the Orthodox Christians are closer to the heavenly kingdom based on their sufferings in this world.
My gf is Greek Orthodox. I was raised Roman Catholic but, with study, I prefer the Orthodox branch of the original Church.
Fascinating work, Nate. Thank you for that.
And those same ultra-Orthodox don’t consider gentiles to be human. You left that part out. But yes, they seem to hate their fellow Jews more right now. And that hatred is returned. They had a float in the Boston Israeli Pride parade one year. What a shit show. They were chanting, Who is unrighteous? Who is this? Who is that? And the liberal Jewish crown would yell, You are!
Remember folks: You’ve got Jared K all wrong. He’s (C)habad. He’s been described as devout. And he does not believe the above. But he does believe his father in law is little more than a chimp a la the Talmud. All of this is lost on poor Trump, who thinks in terms of “Judeo-Christianity”. No people are more lost than White Americans.
The Ice Hockey Murder. killed by die versity.
Adam Johnson received a spinning jump kick into his neck and severing his jugular.
The bleep didn’t get tossed into Mr. Johnson.
He skated towards him, squatted down and then proceeded to jump with both feet leaving the ice, spin, and almost decapitate johnson.
[like OJ did to Nicole].
Incredibly johnson got up and skated off the ice. I’m guessing he was dead before he reached the locker room. The media ( fox included) are calling this a “freak accident”.
They are just as guilty as the shitskin who did this.
Police are investigating and they’re asking repeatedly for the public to not speculate on this case.
Most articles are not mentioning the murderers name knowing that a Google search will result in that confirmation bias being confirmed. This was 100% an intent to injure johnson and the media figures if they just keep repeating “freak accident” a billion people will just believe it.
You are 100% correct. I’ve been watching and playing and officiating and coaching hockey since 1970. I have never seen anything like this:
youtube.com/shorts/SCfs1OzaCd4
[Note: This very quick clip is the attack but without the ensuing gore.]
The perp is a Toronto boy:
hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=121883
black boy
Both are true.
His career hockey stats do not have any crazy PIM (penalties in minutes) so he’s not just some meathead out there.
He sure made a bad decision.
As you say, it will be interesting to see how UK law enforcement handles this. It is clear manslaughter on video.
A bad decision, lol. Evil will express itself in one way or another. Smart evil doesn’t do things like this of course. It doesn’t get caught. But smart evil means having a high IQ. That excludes most of the dark ones.
A thought such as: the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel.
OK, Let’s look at this “thought” or statement, as it stands in the context of truth and lies, crime and punishment and blood and fire.
To some people and their supporters, this statement makes sense and is self-evident i.e “the truth.”
To other, like the Palestinians and their supporters, the statement is not at all self-evident, It is far too vague and opaque and is expressed by people and parties who have applied brute and murderous force against Palestinians for a long time…
But wait, do Palestinians even exist?
I wonder…
What do you think?
“Might makes right,” gets a bad rap—with a broad enough view of “might,” who has any other “right” to anything?
If there is any “right” to land, it should go to whoever uses the land best, with all destroyers of land having their “land-rights” disqualified. (This jives with the above if sustainable land use is viewed as a superior form of “might,” which works if self-crippling effects of irresponsible land use are considered, accurately, “weakness.”)
Israel/Palestine is a conflict of two cultures of land-destruction (overcrowded agriculturalization of a delicate climate), making me indifferent to the land-right claims of either party. (Can we give the land to neither group, actually?)
This jives with the above – gustaf
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You wrote this just to draw me in didn’t you?
No, I forgot, lol. If jive is wrong, I’ve always been wrong. Thanks for bringing up. Off to research “jibes with.”
Indeed, “jibes.” Thank you.
You are far from alone, Gus. Much to Q’s dismay, millions say “jives with.”
Jiving was fun as I recall.
Could two ideas do a dance from the 1950’s together? Maybe, but only if they jibe with each other first.
Q is a jibe turkey.
“A thought such as: the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel.”
The name “Israel” belongs to another nation. God divided the nation in the time of Rehaboam. They have been separate ever since. They misappropriated this name to fool the biblically illiterate. Judah is theirs.
“It only took a few years after the death of Solomon (I Kings 11:43) for the Jewish [ error – Israelite ] kingdom to divide and become two irrevocably separate kingdoms. The ten northern tribes made their own government and were called Israel with their capital the city of Samaria. The two southern tribes, Judah and Benjamin, remained loyal to the House of David centered in Jerusalem. They became known and the kingdom of Judea [ Judah is the tribal name – Judea is the location name ] (from whence the word “Jew” was eventually derived).”
Drudge this morning:
BIBI: BATTLE OF CIVILIZATION
HOLY WAR
TROOPS MOVE ON GAZA CITY
URBAN COMBAT
FIGHT IN TUNNELS
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO EGYPT?
Orthodox Church Condemns Israel For Bombing…BR> Russia now sees as enemy…
UPDATE: Mob storms airport to block plane from Tel Aviv… VIDEO…
WSJ: Global War on Jews… New wave of antisemitism…
Envoy wears yellow star at UN…
Netanyahu Under Pressure…
US troops attacked dozens of times…
Mossad chief visits Qatar…
Conflict spilling into Syria…
Yemen and Lebanon fire missiles…
UPDATES…
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Ani’s post yesterday (sans dates) is looking more and more real all the time.
Scoffers gonna scoff because they stopped believing in God decades ago. They were young and impressionable and some weisenheimer said to them, “I can’t believe all these morons ‘belieeeeeve’ that some ‘magic man’ in the clouds with a white beard runs everythingthing like we’re on a chess board!”
The young, intelligent but impressionable child/adolescent became a weisenheimer themselves right then and there. They made up their minds decades ago and there is no amount of scripture fulfilled before their lying eyes will convince them otherwise.
Note to those people: You will be convinced. Honest to God you will. The question is: Will you repent your sins in time to join our Christ Lord’s Thousand-Year Kingdom or will you agonize over your misdeeds in Hell?
VIewPOINTS / Observations
The Islamic-Arab world is rising.
Notions of some Zio-Jesus returning to torch the planet are vain.
Peasants in the US, who believed that such a scenario would ‘come to pass’ will be disappointed. And in more ways than one. Deservedly so.
There will be no “massacre” or ‘genocide’ of the Jewish People in Palestine or anywhere else in the world.
The decades of an Islamic-Arab world that is supine end. Permanently.
Islamic – Arab world = BRICS++ sub group?
Do not wish for things you might regret.
Look at a map, point somewhere and ask if it is Islamic or Arabic.
There’s your answer, P.
Peasant is his word for Whites. Am is jive turkey who supports the Jihad – even against Black African Christians.
Mostly whites, but for some Pretend-whites too.
Interesting… I have a name for people who espouse a comic book version of history, both past and future: Wakandans. I’ll let the discerning reader guess who mostly makes up the population of said group.
Thus you are a racist. Welcome, brother!
You are Black and value Blacks the most.
I am White and value Whites the most.
Jews are Jewish and value Jews the most.
Same. Whites are dying because they can’t be natural like this.
“I am White and value Whites the most.” ~ Jarek
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So what.
Obviously you don’t speak or act for your so-called ‘whites’, otherwise they wouldn’t see themselves in others and/or get together with them.
Also, when was ‘white’ declared and agreed upon as a ‘race’?
The Islamic-Arab world is too far from any primitive roots for my taste. Ruthlessly civilizational. If you folks would loosen grip on ancient-civilization-based pride and look deeper into your histories, more sympathy would follow. But you don’t want sympathy; you want the iron fist. Babylonian luxuries and dominance is where your hearts tend to rest, it seems to me.
Gus,
You mean those wonderful primitives who, e.g., with stones and spears, maimed and killed the same competing ancestral tribe over the adjacent hills in Central Europe in the 14th century just because their daddies did the same?
I know you don’t like any form of evolution, but it seems the definition-of-insanity quote is appropriate here.
I should’ve put quotes around competing. They killed out of lizard brain fear. Often, there was no life competition at all, not even for food.
How do you know this? And If that’s so, what difference is made? Also, there is always competition..
1) Why not? Some tribal warring too much for your digestion? How is our warring an improvement?
2) We are talking about settled hunter-gathererism. Not nomadic mammoth-hunters or explorers.
3) The insanity definition applies much better to application of civilization-based solutions to civilation-caused problems.
“Some tribal warring too much for your digestion?”
Bit of a gratuitous shot.
You’re right. It wouldn’t be good for my digestion. Nor would it be for yours, or anyone’s. We have an ocean of biochemical data on what happens in all organ systems of the body when under stress. Digestion is the most directly affected. Wisely and innately, when under threat from the proverbial saber-toothed tiger, blood is transported away from digestion and to the peripheral limbs and the brain in order to flee, fight, or freeze.
You seem to think you’re the only one on this planet immune to this basic process?
And, evolution’s fine, but devolution’s not. Sometimes progressing requires backtracks.
“How do you know this?”
Fossilized records, migration tracking, diaries.
It was no longer the Dark Ages. (The latter, BTW, gets a pass, but one can conjecture. Lack of knowledge doesn’t equate to peace and co-operation.)
It makes a difference because you seem to think (though with different focus) along with Zazelle’s naive ideas that Man, if not perfectible, could at least get along with a better social set-up. You discount evil, opportunism, lizard brain dominance (scientifically shown to be much more predominant in earlier epochs).
Of course there’s always competition. But the technologically bereft warriors of the 14th century didn’t have the internal pressures that we do now, but still couldn’t refrain from killing each other.
Zazelle is making me look bad, because I’m no utopian. But it is undeniable that many specific hunter-gatherer populations have lived, on the whole, satisfying healthy and comparatively low-stress lives (warring factored in) within fixed territories for tens of thousands of years continuously without excessive population-growth or ecological damage crippling or eroding their cultures.
So yes, there are superior systems, historically, to our agricultural-industrial ones, outscoring ours in most categories.
But I could turn your contention around to you, Gus. How do you know they “lived, on the whole, satisfying healthy and comparatively low-stress lives (warring factored in) within fixed territories for tens of thousands of years continuously”?
Hunter-gatherer populations have even fewer records for us to compare. A lot of speculative paleo-bro bullshit to comb through though.
Because that well-being judgment is based on the many 20th century anthropological studies that evidence that conclusion. And there’s nothing in the archeological or historical records to discount the anthropological conclusions about their quality of life, as a generality.
I’m willing to entertain and read your studies, within time limits of course.
A short hunter-gatherer-overview article written recently for a Yale U anthropology org, citing many late 20th-century studies to support conclusions:
hraf.yale.edu/ehc/summaries/hunter-gatherers
A snippet:
“Why are hunter-gatherer parents generally more affectionate? Ronald Rohner’s (1975, 97–105) research suggests that warmth toward children is more likely when a mother has help in childcare. In the case of hunter-gatherers, fathers are generally much more engaged in infant care compared to food-producing fathers (F. Marlowe 2000; Hewlett and Macfarlan 2010). If fathers or other caretakers provide help, mothers may be less stressed (Rohner 1975). Fathers providing help is consistent with the fact that hunter-gatherer husbands and wives are more likely to engage in all kinds of activities together—eating together, working together, and sleeping together (Hewlett and Macfarlan 2010). Leisure time may also help explain more affection expressed toward children. Leisure time generally decreases with increasing societal complexity, and parents with little leisure time may be more irritable and short-tempered (C. R. Ember and Ember 2019, 60).”
The snippet you provide doesn’t indicate how it extrapolates into specific contrasts with agricultural life vis-a-vis aggression and war with neighboring tribes.
Humans are infinitely complex. In the 20th century, philosophers and social historians have been flummoxed by the fact that servants of despots could go out in the morning and bash childrens’ heads against a spike, and then go home and lovingly play with their own children. (Humans, within a wide spectrum, have seeds of evil.)
Also, it sounds like a general commentary on home life because of extra hours at hand, not in itself an indicator of non-aggression. (Men, especially, will take any violent propensities they have out on their families rather than the battlefield or work if they’re home too much.)
I requested actual data, Gus.
This article, which is kind of a quick summary of anthropological-study findings to date, covers warring directly if you read it, as do most specific anthropological accounts. This article suggests warring events at an approximate rate of one event every 2 years.
Jared Diamonds books, most of which heavily reference his work in New Guinea, are great for the warring and viplence subject, as the various New Guinean tribes are relatively combative.
“violence.”
I do all my typing on phone keypad with auto-correct off.
Some say that they Abos would on occasion eat their own children. This is different than just abandoning them because they couldn’t feed them as some peoples did. It’s very practical I admit, but there is an evil there…..
And of course they ate people from other groups. Everyone who anyone admits that much.
Or a kind of sacrament, of the “eating of body/drinking of blood” type.
Ironic that the people making the noise know little or nothing about the subject, There is nothing more dangerous than the undereducated, really stupid young people of this country.
A product of wokeism and Progressivism.
No one is going to change a person’s mind as to the goings-on in the ME. If you are anti-Israel, you will still be anti-Israel after this is over, one way or the other. If you are pro-Israel, you will remain pro-Israel.
Therefore, I will not waste any more of my remaining limited time on Earth getting involved in these types of discussions unless some poster REALLY, REALLY irks me a lot. Even then, maybe not.
All I can do in my own little world is to try to set things up to protect myself and my loved ones as best I can against the coming conflict in America.
Just FYI, if you don’t already know, I am pro-Israel, but as long as it doesn’t affect my quotidian life I will remain out of it.
All I can do in my own little world
Like Ani posted, Bill: Get right with God. That is how we will meet, good sir, some sunny day. It won’t be on a street corner in Chicago.
What, Chicago isn’t heaven, OG?
I do not believe so, Bill. The stars will fall from the sky. We will change realms. Heaven is more wonderful than we can possibly imagine.
I hope to see you there.
Can I come too?
Hopefully cynical Lutherans are allowed.
The more, the merrier, Mango!
Does Buffy look European to you?
She looks indian or asian to me.
will she do a DNA test and settle the score? If not, maybe she is fake.
Not to worry, Bill, after the war there will be very few anti-Israel zealots left.
That is worrisome, JAZ. What, do you think, is going to happen to most of the anti-Israel zealots?
JohnAZ – Are you using the name Israel the way God uses it or the way religionists use it?
One would have to know this to agree with you.
godskingdom.org/studies/tracts/who-are-gods-chosen-people/
JAREK
What do you make of Buffy?
LIke Bill O’Reilly, I was much smitten with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. You really can’t do much better than the young Buffy in terms of beauty.
I will rule on St Marie later. STAY TUNED.
Hi Jim:
I think you should invite Scott Ritter to speak on the Kunstler Cast. You might figure out what is happening in Israel.
Scott Ritter is basically a military analyst. Not only, but basically.
For geopolitical analysis and also for insights into what is going on inside Israel, I recommend Alastair Crooke. He writes at Strategic-Culture.org and also appears regularly on Judging Freedom. He was on yesterday. .
John Mearsheimer has also weighed in:
httpZ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62FCVJycwSA
GA:
You forgot to add ‘along with a lot of other people who are not Jewish’. You even listed their family names the other day, most of which were clearly not Jewish.
Think of it as a Venn diagram. Where Jewish and fabulously rich intersects with Anglo-American and fabulously rich and with Irish and fabulously rich (you can complete the gaps), what they all are is simply ‘fabulously rich’. Plus evil.
SocDet:
Not all big money is Jewish, of course, but since it is disproportionately Jewish, it cannot be discussed or questioned, since that is considered “anti-Semitic”
OG:
Check this out vis-à-vis a Venn diagram of who brought us the COVIDs and the jabs:
bitchuteXcom/video/5PeuHgqfFc7D/
Watch 2+ minutes from 51:16-53:36.
Then you can decide for yourself.
For me? Venn diagram my butt.
She refuses to study the structure of the Pyramid that show how the few rule the many. Her argument is: More Whites millionaires than Jewish millionaires. So Whites are in control. What about Billionaires? What about the Great Funds? And the Banks that create the fucking money out of nothing?
From a Pro-Israel e-mail
Iran’s leader has said that Muslim’s must not use any thing that originates from the Jewish people.Summary statement
In short, good and loyal Muslims properly and fittingly should remain afflicted with syphilis, gonorrhea, heart disease, headaches, typhus, diabetes, mental disorders, polio, and TB and be proud to obey the Islamic boycott.
That is because Jews were integral to he development of cures and tests for all these ailments.
Jonas Salk, Erhlich for Salvarsan for syphilis. Digitalis for CHF, Traube., Insulin, Minkowski, Chloral Hydrate for convulsions, Leibreich, Psyche, Freud, Streptomycin, Waxman.
Has the Ayatollah done a genius thing? How to eliminate the terrorists and reduce the Arab population at the same time. He must read the opinions of Bill Gates.
How many Nobel prizes?
Islam. 7
Jews. 129
Jews do not brainwash their kids to kill or blow themselves up, Jews do no hijack planes, kill athletes at Olympics, destroy churches, use their Torah to call for the destruction of all other religions.
Perhaps the Muslim world should consider more standard education and less at blaming the Jews (or Christians) for all their problems.
Two sentences sum it up
If the Arabs put down their weapons, there would be no violence. If the Israelis put down their weapons, there would be no Israel.
Bibi: General Eisenhower warned us. When he found out about the concentration camps, he ordered all forms of photography to document and the German people to walk through the camps and bury the dead. He said, “Get it on record now, get the films, get the witnesses, because down the road of history some bastard will get up and say this did not happen”.
The UK recently debated whether to remove the Holocaust from the school curriculum because it might offend Muslims.
Iran has openly denied the Holocaust and is spreading that disinformation around the world.
Eisenhower was a prophet.
Are you sure, JAZ?
Israel bombs Greek Orthodox Gaza church sheltering displaced people
aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/20/war-crime-israel-bombs-gaza-church-sheltering-displaced-people
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How many Nobel prizes?
Islam. 7
Jews. 129
Venn diagrams everywhere! Why brag about one Venn diagram (Nobel Prize-winners) while the other Venn diagram (Satanic Death Merchants/Bankers) is completely verboten?
I know why. I’ll bet that you do too.
I wonder how many rocket launchers were in that church, or hospitals, or old folks homes, or schools, or how many munitions are stored in them.
Aljazeera, huh, that is a good neutral source of information, no bias at all.
I will agree that Jews are self defeating, their aloofness at being God’s chosen is a crock and hurts them all the time.
Mormon’s are the same, Both want their own territories to practice their beliefs in, by themselves. In both, we are Gentiles, second class people.
I had a friend in Colorado that was Jewish and he told me that the Jewish community, ie synagogue, would sponsor three business startups for young Jews. Mormons do the same. I believe Joe Average considers this collusion unfair.
So why do Jews float to the top of most everything, everywhere? A good question for the rest of us to ask ourselves.
I wonder what percentage of the Democratic Part is Jewish?
I’m guessing this chart puts Jews into the white category, because they don’t have their own.
But, I’m also guessing that most Asians and Indians are not Jewish.
So you’re “float to the top” belief is not right.
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income
Stay tooned.
I think Al-Jazeera is the most objective new source around.
Since you seem to think they are not objective enough, why don’t you give us some “objective” mainstream US new sources?
I’ll help you get started. Here is my list:
I don’t see anything. There is no list. Just blank.
@Zazelle
That’s because there are no objective US MSM sources.
Antiwar.com is the most objective. It’s not mainstream.
Sonar21 is objective. Not mainstream
JAZ:
Jews do not … destroy churches
OG rebuttal:
Israel bombs Greek Orthodox Gaza church sheltering displaced people
JAZ response:
I wonder how many rocket launchers were in that church, or hospitals, or old folks homes, or schools, or how many munitions are stored in them.
OG:
Of course the correct response was, “I stand corrected.”
“OG:
Of course the correct response was, ‘I stand corrected.’ ” ~ OG
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“NEVER!” ~ JAZ (hypothetical) 😉
Well, re Jews “floating to the top,” there is a lot of unacknowledged nepotism, plus you can fill an affirmative action slot with a Jew–which is much more desirable than filling it with, say a black man or woman. Jews thus get preference in both employment and in academic admissions.
When it comes to people getting jobs due to their families’ ability to “use their influence,” Jews are probably no worse than anyone else. With some government jobs, family influence is such a “given” that I suspect nobody’s daddy even has to make a phonecall; if you’re a member of a certain family, you will certainly get the job.
This is as true in rural communities as it is in urban ones. I have often remarked that you could probably trace a lot of geneologies around here by reviewing lists of government job-holders over the years.
Oksana Boyko at Russia Today did an interview a couple of years or so ago with some apparently Jewish guy who at one point seemed to boast that Jews controlled much of this civilization/society or something like that and one of my thoughts was what a joke it was and that I wouldn’t want to be somehow responsible for it, never mind proud of it.
Blood will tell. As does high IQ. Og has it.
High IQ shows itself typically in panopticon vision. Being able to see everything at once and then narrowing down as necessary as per topic or interest. But they never lose the vision even when narrowing. Rather, they will then traces the various networks that connect the topic in question to other topics, to the rest of reality if you will.
Certainly there are geniuses who stay narrow and do not attain unto the panopticon or unto the Eye in their personal pyramid. But such is not OG.
Normal people can only focus on set of facts: Like say, the Orthodox against Israel. They have trouble with reality of the Orthodox for Israel – which is the majority. And immense trouble with the reality that the “good” Orthodox only think that Jews are human, you know just like the “bad” Orthodox. They both follow the same Book of Laws, the Talmud after all.
Many, many Jews seek an escape from all this in Eastern religion. The madness of Talmudism is too much for many good people. Or in regular atheism or agnosticism. That’s the majority right there. Yet the fanatics have taken control. They usually do there and everywhere.
I wonder who is on the Nobel committee? The ones who gave Obama the peace prize?
@OG, JohnAZ has watched too many John Wayne movies. Over the years here, he made progress, but the latest phase of the mid-east conflict has undone all that.
Yeah, Eisenhower got the Holocaust on film. Good call.
No one got the Nakba on film in 1947/48. And in the West, for every Palestinian death at the hands of the Israelis reported in Western media, there are 100 unreported.
So JohnAZ doesn’t get.
He’s constantly railing against the Democrats, who as long ago as 1967 were so contolled by Jewish money that LBJ specifically ordered the US Navy to do nothing and not aid the USS Liberty, as JohnAZ’s Israeli heroes tried to sink it, to keep their surprise attack on the Arabs secret, killing 32 Americans.
He rails against the Democrats, even though the Republicans are just as bad when it comes to foreign policy.
Both parties are controlled by warmongers.
Neither US party spoke out against mRNA vaccine injury; both supported lockdowns and vaccines.
It was the REAGAN administration that immunized “vaccine” manufacturers against lawsuit.
It was “the Donald” who said, “it’s a great vaccine”.
His comments of late are an eloquent testimonial to how uninformed millions of well-meaning, non-Democrat Americans are, and why they are complicit, knowingly or not, in American’s implosion.
No need to watch Fox news–just read most of his comments!
I made progress in your eyes, huh, and it has been undone over Israel?
Like I care what you think.
Sucking up good, Peasant?
What if the sun washed us clean?
I saw an eclipse of the Son.
But time sped up
That a remnant might live.
Not to worry then
Hold your peace
Be the dust of peace
Clutter the world with your dusty peace
Of a piece
In His piercing
Under Her mantle
In the Ark, the womb.
All will be well
You will rise from your tomb.
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Under the old covenant you are bound by it’s statutes
But under the new, not.
Still, we hear that God is one
And loving our neighbour, ourselves, as one.
Not like the communists
For their god is the state
But rather Creator
Who you know, innate.
anmariwakaranai – Have you ever heard [ or preached ] a sermon on 1John 3:4?
Very nice, anmariwakaranai. Thanks for sharing.
Again, I hope you are keeping these somewhere?
I once took a creative writing course and, aside from about two or three more poems on my own after that, it was the only time I wrote any poetry…
I just dug up one from around 30 years ago…
Eidolon Paradigm
An apparition
Anachronist-born
into the present
From an unknown season.
Restless and meandering
Caught in echoes of memory
A sage perceptor
of woken realm, asleep
Primordial eyes
Transcend dream landscapes from
Beginning to end
Prophetic imagist’s
Mystic self-portraits,
Nightmare symbols and
Crystal ball are
Portholes– passages to
Realities redrawn
For withdrawal
Eidolon Paradigm.
Physically ageless,
Spiritually eternal,
A priceless face seen
Only in light
Diffracted through time
By tears of her art
That fall in my hands
As I vanish
Surprise Attack
Snug as a bug in a rug
Tunnel maze
Long before dug
Long before this phase
Death from above
And death from below
Broken-winged dove
Reap. Sew.
Terrorism and media
Decapitated babies
Updated Wikipedia
Angry Israelis
Drones overhead
Artillery in the distance
“You never heard what I said.
We are ‘The Resistance.’”
Steely-eyed resolve
Shot from the hip
Reasoning revolve
At a steady clip
Safe-house discovered
A quarter mile, on your left
The little ones smothered
Sympathy bereft
Dominos all lined up
And precariously so
Tanks all shined up
They’re ready to go
Twenty year-old sniper
Perched in his nest
Part kid, part viper
Gotta pass this test
Scoping his shot
Breathing so steady
Laser-focused dot
Trigger hair ready
“God help me now!
And save my soul!
If You so allow,
Tally my toll.”
It all fell so silent
It all went black
No more violent
Surprise attack
“A thought such as: the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel. This is now up for debate around the world, whereas it had been accepted as self-evident by many civilized states a few weeks ago.”
Yeah, until a few weeks ago I didn’t understand why the guy most obsessed on Jewish conspiracy theories that I personally know was a Jewish guy, but thanks to recent events, his claim that “I must know about these things! They are my people!” makes an awful lot more sense. Especially after Mr Terminator made that ad with the innuendo that anybody that has ever entertained any Jewish conspiracy theory is anti-semitic, and he would know, since he is descended from a Nazi. It’s now obvious to me that the level of clusterfuck that Israel is capable of goes far beyond any other country. So little wonder, really, that people are by now beginning to doubt whether there are any Jews in Israel, and should any Jews actually be there, whether they should remain there.
I want to be around when Zaz declares his Anarchistic Free State — Freedomia — wide open, no laws, anything goes, do whatever you f##k want, no cops, no government … and best of all everything is free, up to and especially beer & weed! I picture it to be like Arizona Territory in 1880, Zaz’s Noble Apaches roaming the hills, raiding stagecoaches and scalping passengers … a magnet for every freebooter, escaped convict, gunslinger, conman & adventurer, gambler, pimp & criminal in NAmerica. No law enforcement to speak of so ranchers & sheepherders hire their own privates armies and wage war on each other, the Pleasant Valley War, which lasts 15 years and takes hundreds of lives. Finally President Cleveland had to send in the Army to simmer things down. I know, I know, citizens of Freedomia won’t be toting sixguns & Winchesters, that’s old school Anarchy. Freedomia will be a Sharing & Caring ‘Community’, no violence only love, peace & understanding, New School Anarchy.
Six-gun anarchy… let’s go!
“Freedomia will be a Sharing & Caring ‘Community’, no violence only love, peace & understanding, New School Anarchy.”
BRH,
In their dreams they see Woodstock, but in reality, they receive Altamont.
^ BackRowAgitprop ^
You’re in fine form today and I see elysianfield has tuned into your channel too.
Sweet.
Hey elysianfield, don’t forget to do what they tell you to, ay?
—
“The Elysian Fields, also called Elysium, are the final resting place of the souls of the heroic and the virtuous…” ~ Wikipedia
LOL
“Sociologically-Decontextualized Inquiry”
“Hey elysianfield, don’t forget to do what they tell you to, ay?”
Must…agree…Zaz…
Suspend…judgment…
Accept…Zaz…bullshit
Zaz…product…current…education
Must…not…question…cut…paste….
This is getting to be a genuine Shit Show.
Yemen’s Houthis enter war on Israel and vow to ramp up attacks as conflict spirals
express.co.uk/news/world/1830070/yemen-houthi-israel-iran-war
Yemen’s Iranian-backed Houthi rebels have waded into the war against Israel after firing missiles and drones at the country over the Red Sea earlier today.
The Houthis are part of Iran’s “Axis of Resistance” and have rallied behind Hamas since the October 7 attacks. They have been at war with Yemen’s internationally recognised government since 2014 and control the capital city of Sana’a.
The Houthis can also block the Red sea and cut off oil and gas shipments to western Europe.
That “brings down the US financial system.” or “can blow up the international financial system” whatever the ‘eff that shit-structure is.
The place in the Red sea which is easily blocked is called the Gate of Tears…. it reminds one of the tears of children.
Wish they would, but one-hundo says they won’t because the money-flow comes first for everyone. All souls sold.
Or Not.
Such as those who reason “Let us not extend the suffering to billions more.”
Yes. Right where the Red Sea joins the Gulf of Aden.
If they closed that gate while Iran shutdown the Persian gulf, us North Americans will be testing these oft discussed anarchy theories right quick.
Good thing President Potatohead’s very first action after his phoney bologna inauguration was to kill the pipelines of Alberta oil to US refineries, eh?
“Joe Biden” repeatedly destroys pipelines to the detriment of peace and security. What a goy!
Standard BLOB fare.
“If they closed that gate while Iran shutdown the Persian gulf, us North Americans will be testing these oft discussed anarchy theories right quick.” ~ OG
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LOL
Might be interesting to see which flavours of Statists do a better anarchy.
“the war is between Western Enlightenment represented by Israel ”
This board is getting better and better for guffaws.
Israel as enlightenment avatar must explain (sn) its
(1)adherence to the promises of their own tribal god of 3,000 years ago and
(2) the ravings of their leaders about Armageddon.
(3) bonus point: the “scientific” decision to jab all of their tribal members with an untested potion containing synthetic mRNA and who knows what else.
If this be enlightenment, let’s just turn out the lights.
Is Israel really the most vaxxed nation on earth? Or is that a lie too? Maybe Israel jabbed up the majority of their citizens with saline solution. Maybe not. Maybe a solution still with Luciferase for compliance tracking, of course, and maybe the nano circuitry but then maybe not the heart-killers or the encapsulated Marburg or …
Or maybe they’re also just sheep to be slaughtered as well as us Five Eyes.
Who knows what these evil mofos are up to? I mean, really?
“Maybe Israel jabbed up the majority of their citizens with saline solution. Maybe not. Maybe a solution still with Luciferase for compliance tracking, of course, and maybe the nano circuitry but then maybe not the heart-killers or the encapsulated Marburg or …” — OG
No, OG.
Video out just after the initial jab campaigns. Many many Israelis, lying in hospital beds or in their own homes, looking like shit, detailing their heart attacks (days after the jab), extreme fatigue, neurological problems, etc. They weren’t spared.
Right. As I said:
Or maybe they’re also just sheep to be slaughtered as well as us Five Eyes.
But in the same numbers as other places? More? Less? I, too, remember the initial reports but have heard surprisingly little since. Is there Ed Dowd-like work done on their disabled and excess deaths?
My point is, the evil mofos run their well-rehearsed playbook and we are left trying to reverse engineer to try and understand what they did while they’re off to Acapulco.
Indeed.
Who would be qualified to answer such a question except higher ups from the other side?
Answers to your questions will take a while to be known.
benr’s Warlords Mantra
“Neither country has ever had a functioning government and has always been a series of warlords ruling over clans and at war with everyone for control…
@ga
Yes, thank you regional warlords or gangs will always fill the power vacuum and then it’s their rules and their rules typically are not fair to those not in their gang.
That was my exact point about Afghanistan or Somalia barely functioning or non-existent governments with ruling regional warlords running the show and chaos everywhere.” ~ benr, October 31, 2023 at 7:34 & 8:33 am
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” ‘Ruling warlords’ is not anarchy.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 1:24 pm
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But Wouldn’t Warlords Take Over?
“APPLES AND ORANGES
When dealing with the warlord objection, we need to keep our comparisons fair. It won’t do to compare society A, which is filled with evil, ignorant savages who live under anarchy, with society B, which is populated by enlightened, law-abiding citizens who live under limited government. The anarchist doesn’t deny that life might be better in society B. What the anarchist does claim is that, for any given population, the imposition of a coercive government will make things worse. The absence of a State is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition to achieve the free society…
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The standard objection that anarchy would lead to battling warlords is unfounded. In those communities where such an outcome would occur, the addition of a State wouldn’t help. Indeed, the precise opposite is true: The voluntary arrangements of a private property society would be far more conducive to peace and the rule of law, than the coercive setup of a parasitical monopoly government.” ~ Robert P. Murphy, Mises
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Somalia, Kenya and the instability of some modern African nations
“To sum up, in general what the media presents as the consequence of ‘weak government’ and irrational violence is anything but. The building of regular bourgeois democracies in Africa as ‘an improvement on the present carnage’ is impossible for the simple reason that most of Africa’s bourgeois live in the imperialist nations. In Africa a normal bourgeois democracy would be impossible to achieve without overturning the global capitalist imperialist system. When that happens we’ll have anarchism and capitalism of any form will be a thing of the past. That’s why, as the comrades of the Awareness League point out so well, for Africa anarchism is the only hope.” ~ Chekov Feeney, 2005, Anarkismo
Where you gonna find your enlightened, law abiding citizens Zaz? That’s the million dollar question. In Hartford, a few years back, some do-gooders set up the ‘Green Bike Program’. The way it worked is bikes were placed at depots thru out the city; you could take one and turn it in after your trip was done. The program was subsidized by the city and was built on trust. Right away bikes started disappearing, showing up on railroad tracks thrown into the Connecticut River, and sold for scrap at the local yard. Many ‘Youths’ simply brought them home. “Whatchya gonna do about it?” Soon the program was ended due to lack of bikes. A few years later a similar endeavor was launched by different do gooders, only with more expensive EV bikes. This time there were security measures, and a subscription was required. But when it was learned ‘Youths’ were riding the electric bikes out into the suburbs to commit armed robberies this enterprise too came to a screeching halt.
So much for your enlightened law abiding citizenry essential for Anarchist Utopia.
Hey BackRowHeckler, fancy you dropping in. How’s your week going so far?
Sorry man your pie in the sky bullshit won’t fly.
This is the real world and people don’t behave without someone to make them behave.
“The greater the mental charlatan, the more definite his insistence on the wickedness and weakness of human nature.‘…” ~ Emma Goldman
Emma is lucky she got out of Russia alive. Lenin had the CHEKA on her tail.
Meanwhile Julian Assange continues to languish in prison.
Benr
YES!!!!!!!!
And in the voting booth also.
Regarding elysianfield’s Sociologically-Decontextualized Inquiry
(continued from kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/jihad-by-god/#comment-836077)
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“You have a young daughter? Let us suppose you do. Further, suppose a neighbor, has been found to be supplying fentanyl to your daughter, and then using her for immoral purpose…and several of your other neighbors have participated. Now suppose you find out due to your 12 year old’s obvious pregnancy.
What does one do under small-scale relative anarchy?” ~ elysianfield
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What about human nature?
Don’t we need laws and police and other authoritarian institutions to protect us from people with ill intent?
“If human beings are not good enough to do without authority, why should they be trusted with it?
Or, if human nature is changeable, why should we seek to make people obedient rather than responsible, servile rather than independent, craven rather than courageous?
Or, if the idea is that some people will always need to be ruled, how can we be sure that it will be the right ones ruling, since the best people are the most hesitant to hold power and the worst people are the most eager for it?
The existence of government and other hierarchies does not protect us; it enables those of ill intent to do more damage than they could otherwise. The question itself is ahistorical: hierarchies were not invented by egalitarian societies seeking to protect themselves against evildoers. Rather, hierarchies are the result of evildoers seizing power and formalizing it. (Where did you think kings came from?) Any generalization we could make about ‘human nature’ in the resulting conditions is sure to be skewed.” ~ CrimethInc., Frequently Asked Questions about Anarchism
““If human beings are not good enough to do without authority, why should they be trusted with it?”
Zaz,
Because…History is awash in blood during times of no authority…less so with. It is a matter of degree.
Government and other hierarchies, to some extent, DO protect us. The weak are allowed to live, sometimes prosper, even breed.
Any generalization we could make about “human nature”…
Here is the truth, a generalization…humans seek their own best interests, and this will never change.
“Or, if human nature is changeable,”, A canard. If human nature is changeable, then, and only then, might your Utopian dreams bear fruit. But Rule #1, is that human nature is NOT changeable.
Your seed falls upon stony ground.
Except in the UK, where that exact scenario played out for years, and the police and other authorities refused to do anything about it, because they didn’t want to look ”racist”.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3465306/Teenager-beaten-brothers-d-abused-Rotherham-grooming-gang-age-12.html
Meanwhile, Tommy Robinson was prosecuted for standing up for the girls. He’s “racist”, doncha know, and is to this day demonized in the press.
And Posey Parker is demonized for taking a photo with him!
Everyone just ignores the fact that he was proven right.
.bbc.com/news/uk-48942411
They believe there is no human nature, just programming and animal instincts. So people can be made into anything, really. Why is one thing better than another thing?
Well some things kill a lot of people.
Yeah, but why is that bad? There is no bad, remember?
When I take the public transportation bus, it almost always looks like that original Star Trek episode where the crew gets transported to an alternative evil universe where everyone’s stabbing everyone else in the back. It’s horrible. Why, only other day, I only narrowly missed a bullet that grazed my ear and went straight through the window and out, killing someone’s dog on the sidewalk.
At least our specialized armour that includes bulletproof vests and helmets, protects us most days along with microhospitals on most corners.
Your facile, smart ass answer implies that we’re already living in a land free of violence, so why do you need a revolutionary “build back better”?
I’d also add that one reason you don’t have to look over your shoulder on every block is because a murder charge will get one 25 to life or even (depending on the U.S. state) the electric chair.
Tends to be an effective deterrent, and hence a safer climate for you, you ungrateful asshole.
My previous mention of ‘Build Back Better’ was for you and/or whoever felt they craved to be babysat by/suck the teet of the nanny State and its ‘operatives’, like the WEF.
Stay in your crib, defend your babysitter, cross your fingers and you might just get it and, if you’re lucky, a wet nappy to dab your mouth after your spoonfeeds.
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“Anarchism is founded on the observation that since few men are wise enough to rule themselves, even fewer are wise enough to rule others.” ~ Edward Abbey
“Grown men do not need leaders.” ~ Edward Abbey
Over-the-air TV channel running ‘The Blob’ right now, a Halloween special feature. In color, with the young, charming Steve McQueen in the lead role. Before my time (1958) but this film must have been a hit at drive-in theaters with the teenage crowd. I think Jim’s ‘The Blob’ theme has given this movie a whole new life!
Up next: ‘Curse of the Demon’, with Dana Andrews.
Turns out ‘The Blob’ can’t operate in cold weather. That’s what does ‘The Blob’ in.
BRH,
Some of those 50s horror movies were a lot of fun. Cheesy fun.
What about “human nature”?
“Anarchists, far from ignoring ‘human nature’, have the only political theory that gives this concept deep thought and reflection. Too often, ‘human nature’ is flung up as the last line of defence in an argument against anarchism, because it is thought to be beyond reply. This is not the case, however. First of all, human nature is a complex thing…
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Of course, what is considered ‘human nature’ can change with changing social circumstances…
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‘Individuals are certainly capable of evil … But individuals are capable of all sorts of things. Human nature has lots of ways of realising itself, humans have lots of capacities and options. Which ones reveal themselves depends to a large extent on the institutional structures. If we had institutions which permitted pathological killers free rein, they’d be running the place. The only way to survive would be to let those elements of your nature manifest themselves…’
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‘If we have institutions which make greed the sole property of human beings and encourage pure greed at the expense of other human emotions and commitments, we’re going to have a society based on greed, with all that follows…
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Therefore, environment plays an important part in defining what ‘human nature’ is, how it develops and what aspects of it are expressed. Indeed, one of the greatest myths about anarchism is the idea that we think human nature is inherently good (rather, we think it is inherently sociable). How it develops and expresses itself is dependent on the kind of society we live in and create. A hierarchical society will shape people in certain (negative) ways and produce a ‘human nature’ radically different from a libertarian one. ‘So when we hear men [and women] saying that Anarchists imagine men [and women] much better than they really are, we merely wonder how intelligent people can repeat that nonsense. Do we not say continually that the only means of rendering men [and women] less rapacious and egotistic, less ambitious and less slavish at the same time, is to eliminate those conditions which favour the growth of egotism and rapacity, of slavishness and ambition?’ [Peter Kropotkin, Act for Yourselves, p. 83]
As such, the use of ‘human nature’ as an argument against anarchism is simply superficial and, ultimately, an evasion. It is an excuse not to think. ‘Every fool’, as Emma Goldman put it, ‘from king to policemen, from the flatheaded parson to the visionless dabbler in science, presumes to speak authoritatively of human nature. The greater the mental charlatan, the more definite his insistence on the wickedness and weakness of human nature.‘…
Change society, create a better social environment and then we can judge what is a product of our natures and what is the product of an authoritarian system.” ~ An Anarchist FAQ, Dave Neal, Ed Boraas, Gary Elkin, Iain McKay
“Flung up as the last line of defense”-Zaz.
What do you mean Flung up as the last line of defense? Anarchism has not made any inroads anywhere? Defend against what? Name one place in the history of the world that has governed itself on Anarchistic principals.
Are other animals anarchists? How did you evolve to your present point? The State? LOL
Better? What is better? Better for whom is the better question.
Help the world? Why? Is there is some unique human nature that compels us to do so – a soul?
Better for those who don’t want State operatives to determine what is better for them.
Looks like Commandant of the Marine Corps, General Smith, had a heart attack today. He’s not too old & looks to be in pretty good shape. Well, his career is over.
I will bet he was well boosted.
Another star bites the dust. They call them cardiac events. Some people are saying that folks really need to be worried about the turbo cancers though. The SV40 connection maybe?
thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/general-hospital-star-tyler-christopher-dead-50-following/
But they’d never use DEWs or HAARP on us. That’s crazy talk. “LOL”
That’s not what I said, OG. Please re-read and reconsider. And I will feel very free to indulge and enjoy humor and laughter.
Apologies that my frustration at people here who can believe that TPTB poisoned billions with toxic injections but not that they’d use DEWs and HAARP on us appeared as a reply to you.
It was intended for these people not to you. I am sorry.
Awww, well I accept your apology, OG 🙂
Cailine Johnstone:
“Merriam-Webster defines gaslighting as “psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories”. It’s when you attack someone’s perception of reality with such sustained aggression that the victim’s psyche just kind of gives up and assumes they’re not mentally competent enough to interpret reality for themselves.”
Fortunately JHK’s gaslighting does not seem to be very effective here.
Caitlin’s pointing out the many surface hypocrisies of the Izraeli operation in Gaza well.
What Caitlin’s not addressing are the questions, “Does Israel have legitimate, understandable motivations to go to war?” and “Is war dirty?”
I’m ticking “yes” on both of those questions.
Actually her name is spelled Caitlin.
She has a lot to say and is very knowledgeable about world affairs and current events. Sometimes her comments can get on my nerves though. Like tonight I saw she posted about how western civilization is the murderers etc. And to be honest with you I wanted to respond and say hello, humans are basically murderers when you boil it all down. But right now I’m trying to preserve as much of my psychic energy as I can because the various factions are literally trying to occupy your mind and soul.
Orwell: It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers?out of unorthodoxy.
Anybody who uses woketardese like “settler colonialism” is a webster’s dictionary grade swallower of slogans.
I’m not sure where this fits in within the context of the discussion. Caitlin Johnstone is middle-aged and is an Australian deep state aware activist anarchist. She has enemies on the Left and the Right. She certainly does not sloganeer.
Caitlin Johnstone is an unrepentant Covid Nazi.
No fire in hell is hot enough …
Exactly my feelings, SSL, about trying to occupy your mind and soul. I literally have to force myself to think about other things.
Yeah, take care of yourself Bill and don’t let yourself get caught up in the whirlwind! I’ve been shopping a little more than usual lately and feel like it is directly connected to world events. The holidays are right around the corner basically at this point but i’ve sort of just been randomly been purchasing stuff. So just be careful with your coping mechanisms but indulge them at least a little bit to give yourself a break. The world is tough and life is hard enough as it is.
SSL,
Hmmm. I’ve been having the urge to spend money, lately. Is that a coping mechanism? My good friend died and I’m waiting on his family to announce the time of his wake.
My wife’s best friend has some sort of dizziness problem. Her ex-husband and father of her children now has Parkinson’s and senility. Her present husband’s ex-wife and the father of his children is now very sickly, is in a nursing home, and is mentally confused.
This is a lot to take in. I’m starting to wait for the other shoe to drop. Yet my wife and I are healthy, for which I’m very grateful. Her cancer is presently under control and she’s feeling good, although it will return, but not for several years.
I’ve been going to several doctors recently to check some things. Everything is fine and I hope that continues.
Because of all my doctors’ visits and with what’s been happening with my friends, I’m now going to have some fun. We’ve decided to go to Foxwoods Casino for a few days in a couple of weeks.
It’s a lot of work to remain positive, but I am.
Oh that is good to hear. A nice trip is always a good break from the routines. Sorry to hear of all of the issues your friends are going through. I hope you and your wife will continue to be healthy and well. It is a lot of work to stay positive for sure but is worth the effort I think!
Paradise, CA. Lahaina, HI. Gaza. Acapulco.
TPTB sure are claiming some top-notch primo real estate for their 15-Minute cities/wet dreams.
TPTB are either super-lucky or super-evil.
A or B.
In other news, big storms often hit coastal areas, and the Israelis and Palestinians do not get along..
Just a GLT 1, checking in. No harm, no foul..
Acapulco is very, very strange, Gus. I suggest that you become informed.
I am 98% ignorant about the Acapulco event right now.
It escalated from a tropical storm to a Cat 5 in a few hours. That never happens with natural hurricanes. Ever.
Then there was NO RAIN! There were 200+ mph winds straight into the city of 500,000 but no moisture!
Then it petered out beyond ASAP. Natural hurricanes meander and linger and damage for days while this bizarre, man-made Cat 5 evil tempest stopped as suddenly as it started.
Media bans. Military blocking all aid. Same old, same old.
Mmmm..
C’mon OG.
Hurricanes have elevated that fast this year, I do not remember the name, but the one that hit NE and Nova Scotia this year went to category five overnight on its way up the Atlantic.
It was a wind storm. Okay, maybe because it hit northeast side first. Do you remember Harvey in Houston, it was a rain storm with little wind.
Storms in the Pacific do not act like Atlantic storms as they do not approach land from the same direction. From the SW instead of the southeast, and what quadrant the storms hits land with first makes a big difference.
The Sierra Madre mountains surround Acapulco, the storm would not last long as all Pacific storms peter out quickly against those mountains.
JAZ, yer talkin’ crazy now. Everybody knows that Dubya used the “Hurricane Machine” for the first time when he directed Katrina into NO in ’05. Back then it wasn’t perfected so he had to have the USAF bomb the levees to flood the city. That project was a fail as Oprah wasn’t really interested in any of the low level swamp area. DARPA’s honed their skills since then. DEW’s and “Earthquake Machines” are their forte as of late.
stelmo – We all still await your explanation as to why the organics always burned first in the downed power-lines videos that you provided but not at all in Paradise and Lahaina. How can that be? 2500F+ melting auto glass but palm leaves untouched.
That dog don’t hunt.
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People with little, tiny GLiTs can simply ignore any amount of smoking guns in order to firm clench their psychological blankies.
“You can ignore reality but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.”
– Ayn Rand
Somewhere around here I have an old floppy disk that has a video of Rita in the Gulf of Mexico approaching NO.
To the west of the storm there a four “fingers”, and judging from the range, were about ten miles long. As you watch the video and the interaction between the storm and these “fingers”, which were colored coded just like the regular storms [ bright red surrounded by lessening intensity ] you could witness the storm itself moving west.
My assessment: a platform in orbit using lasers or some DEW to steer the hurricane right to the bull’s eye.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Rita
What more is there to say than that a cat 5 hurricane hit Acapulco directly?
It’s very strange for sure but doesn’t necessarily indicate geoengineering. Essentially, a hurricane is a megatornado if you think about it. There’s definitely a natural rapid intensification that can happen with hurricanes but conditions have to be right. If the ingredients come together perfectly you better watch out. And they can. But humans are definitely trying to influence weather too. Also I personally feel like there is not enough discussion about the generally recent Honga Tonga volcanic eruption on the Earth’s climate system. It was the largest in at least a century if not more than that. And the effects are still not known or understood.
It was like the coldest Halloween i can remember around here. What’s its GLT score lol?
Right. Nothing says comedy quite like the assassination of a sitting, dually-elected president in a coup d’état. Funny stuff. LOL
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Acapulco is being rid of their poor right now. Just like Lahaina. Exactly like Lahaina.
As I say, these 15-Minute City wet dreamers sure are lucky.
What are you going on about now, OG? Who is this random president you have pulled into the conversation? If I didn’t know better I would think you were trying to overwhelm the argument with random facts that may not fit within the puzzle.
Halloween is a holiday celebrated by people. It is not in itself a person, so it can’t hold views. And not holding views, it can be given the GLiT test. And since it can be tested, it can’t have a score.
What is your score?
Oh. Well Halloween is an event. So I thought events could have GLT scores. Like, was the event a black op or no. I was thinking maybe OG thought the current cold snap could be HAARP or DEW related.
I haven’t scored myself before. But test scores are not always good indicators of understanding. I don’t think everything is a black op, but, I mean, there are a lot of black ops. So its probably a mixed bag situation.
What’s its GLT score lol? – SSL
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SSL, I wish you and all others would stop giving weight to OG’s GLT hobby horse. It is sooo tiresome!
I’m also still waiting for your explanation of the approximate 10,000 Lahaina residents that you admitted that Vegas Turkey-Shoot Incident Commander [whatever the flip that is!], FBI grad and Maui PD Chief/Coroner John Pelletier ordered barricaded from escape. There were 10,000 barricaded in the incineration zone but the official death toll is still only 99!
We got to this point many weeks ago but then you just up and rage-quit.
You had admitted that Ann Williams was right – 10,000 were barricaded. What happened to them, Gus?
I don’t remember this 10,000 issue. Is there a good number out there on missing people from Lahaina, as opposed to confirmed dead? 99 has to be way low.
The most recent update that I can find is dated Sept. 2!
385 missing. 99 dead.
However, Vegas Turkey-Shoot incident Commander [whatever the flip that is], FBI grad and Maui PD Chief/Coroner John Pelletier is a known lying scumbag and is, therefore, not to be trusted.
Oh, thanks, nice. 500-600 deaths seems more legitimate for casualties, to my GLTishly miniscule brain anyway, IDK.
Note: 385 + 99 = 484 (not 500-600).
But you had agreed with eyewitness and survivor Ann Williams that 10,000 were barricaded in the kill zone, Gus.
What happened to them? What happened to the unaccounted 9,516 souls? There was no escape and there was nothing left. Were they raptured?
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People with tiny, little GLiTs can ignore all manner of smoking guns in order to firmly clench their psychological blankies. Sad but true.
Are you saying you believe 10k are missing actually?
I did watch that Ann Williams video, but I don’t remember any hard claim to a 10k number, just her account of that morning.
I’m not saying anything that I don’t say. I say what I mean and I mean what I say.
I’m asking the question of you.
Ann Williams said that the whole town of 10,000 people were stuck in the traffic jam because Vegas Turkey-Shoot Commander [whatever the flip that is!], FBI grad, Maui Police Chief/Coroner John Pelletier’s barricades.
Ann Williams made it out going north right before Pelletier’s police state soldiers “just following orders” barricaded that final exit behind her.
After viewing the video of Ms Williams’ testimony, you said, ‘Yeah! That explains the traffic jam!’
So then I asked you, ‘OK. Where are they? Nobody got out after her and we all agree that is about 10k souls. Where are they?’
Then you rage-quit.
We’ve been waiting for your answer ever since.
Every single resident wasn’t trapped. Plenty got out on foot, at least. Everyone in town was not killed.
I believe the official missing numbers plus the official death toll equals the real death toll at around 500, or perhaps a bit more.
If you want to talk about additional missing people, there should be evidence for it.
Officially: 385 missing + 99 dead = 484 souls
You agreed with Ann Williams that about 10k were trapped in the traffic jam. You now suddenly think that 9,500 people got out of that inferno on foot (even though your video of the one guy who we witnessed getting out on foot was very, very lonely)?
That dog don’t hunt.
There is evidence. Ann Williams’ testimony is evidence. We are discussing evidence while you say that there isn’t any.
Reminder: You were caught red-handed lying to run cover for TPTB in a mass-murder investigation – twice. That, of course, makes your allegiances and open-mindedness suspect to say the least.
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When people with tiny little GLiTs say, “If X, then there’d be evidence,” what they mean is, “If X, my TV would tell me!”
Oh no, OG’s Glit is throbbing uncontrollably now; not my intention.
Dammit, OG, why you gotta lose your mind on these topics.
lol 😛
Yes, GLiT sounds a lot like clit. And what is a clit but a small penis? Just as a tornado is a small hurricane?
I believe the i should be removed as SSL indicated above. If it isn’t, this kind of mockery is what people are going to use against it and against the founder, OG himself. Even OG started talking about people with small GLiTs….!
Gustaph’s riposte is witty in this case.
Yeah I thought it was pretty funny. OG said his social skills are not strong so he likely didn’t consider what people would do with his GLiT acronym. So I do join you in encouraging him to go with GLT. 🙂
My esteemed colleagues on CFN have spoken and have been heard.
GLT it is.
Just read Wikipedias report on the USS Liberty incident.
Talk about FUBAR, both sides screwed up and both sides played CYA. Mistaken identity, maybe, intentional attacks, maybe, US firing on the torpedo boats, confirmed, but by accident.
Who was at fault, the Israelis, admitted as such by the Israelis immediately after the incident. Their central command, who misidentified the Liberty as an Egyptian supply ship, send planes out to intercept. They did and the stupidity on both sides started. BTW, warnings were sent out by Israel to the sixth fleet to stay 100 miles from the coast. The Liberty never got the messages, by their admission.
FUBAR!!!!!!
I do have one question. Most of the senior MIC officials stated that the deliberate attack was done to stop the Liberty from sending word out that the Israel IDF was going to attack the Golan Heights and Syria. They did not want to upset the US as that attack was discouraged by the US at the time.
Huh????
They did not want to piss off the US so they shot a US ship to pieces. Somehow, that does not jibe.
Anyway, I suggest reading the Wikipedia piece to find out how contradictive everything was. Deliberate or friendly fire? Believe what you want, but base your opinions on facts.
FUBAR, also seen sometimes as fubar is both an acronym and an adjective.
Despite what you say John it does seem like Israel does care whether or not I believe they have a right to exist. I also see that the Palestinians care whether or not I believe they have a right to exist. The biggest battles are those for hearts and minds. Would you not agree?
Extend the argument up a notch, SSL. You say the Arabs and Israel seem to have the Western attribute that the individual matters.
Does Iran? Does Russia, does China and yes does the US government?
All the world is a stage and we are merely players, right? The controllers pulling the puppet strings are bloodthirsty SOBs who do not care about what they are doing to the players below.
Nothing pisses me off more than watching the US government, or any government, washing their hands after friendly fire debacles, “Oh we are praying for the victims, we are so sorry.”
Bullshit!!!!! All of it is bullshit.
Yeah, I mean those people are not going to accept responsibility for anything. And they get rewarded for incompetence and mismanagement so its a bad recipe for continual disaster really.
The controllers pulling the puppet strings – JAZ
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Puppets don’t have strings, marionettes do.
In 1987 the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian airliner full of passengers, mistaking it for a hostile enemy aircraft.
In April 1945 a squadron of UA Army Air Force P-51 Mustangs shot down 5 Russian Yak fighters over the skies of Berlin, an incident, if not handled correctly, could have initiated conflict between the US & the Red Army. Apologies were quickly issued and the entire event was smoothed over and quickly buried. I’ll bet most of you here, a pretty savvy bunch when it comes to historical analogies, never heard of it.
In April 1945 the allies were preparing for the Normandy campaign. US Marines were brought to the UK from the Pacific Theater to train US & British forces in beach landings. During one such training mission a barge of 800 US soldiers and a few Marines were being towed on a barge in the English Channel for simulated assaults on the English coast when the barge was torpedoed by a British submarine, killing all of them. It was of course an accident and also quickly covered up. When you read the casualty list of soldiers killed at Normandy, the names of the 800 men on this barge are included.
The USS Liberty was an unfortunate, accidental incident that occurred in the fog of war that was not covered up. Unfortunately, some people have siezed upon it to cast Israel in a bad light, even almost 60 years after the fact.
That’s April 1944, but ’45.
BRH, what’s your GLT score? C’mon fess up. Are you a one or a ten? A man or an amoeba? OG, needs to know.
I forgot to mention. Yesterday I had a sneezing fit. I blamed the leaf mold in the air from all the dead and decaying leaves on the ground around here. My wife disagreed and said she saw a jet flying over in the morning spraying chemicals. the plane was kinda low, about 25,000 feet I guessed. I do live near an airport but it does seem mighty suspicious. I wish they would stop flying over my house.
It is all coming to pass. Yuck it up, funny boy.
BRH, what’s your GLT score? C’mon fess up. Are you a one or a ten? A man or an amoeba? OG, needs to know.
– stelmo
1) The Gullibility Litmus Test (GLiT) does not separate man from amoeba. People who try to win arguments by presenting strawmen (including joke format) are not to be trusted as they do not argue honourably.
The GLiT does not separate man from amoeba. But it does separate the men from the boys. And it does separate the awoken from the sheep.
2) Interesting how stelmo seems to agree with my hypothesis that people either have little, tiny GLiTs or whoppers. Nobody has a GLiT of, say, 5.
Real world data is sparse [4×10, 1×9, 1×1] but supports my hypothesis. stelmo appears to have inadvertently indicated that he sees that the hypothesis is indeed correct.
3) You’re right. I scope and then build systems to track then analyze and publish. I was the best in Canada in the equity research niche for a couple of decades. I even built systems for fun. I used to joke with my side-kick as I rolled out a new system, in a creepy Igor voice, “Data. I need more data.”
OG, in your opinion, right?
No one cares about your opinion on the big stage.
It is not just my opinion, JAZ. There are millions of us with big GLiTs. We all once had little, tiny GLiTs too … but we got better. And you can too. Just open your mind and let go of the blanky. It’s ok.
bitchuteXcom/video/quYDjrR3RcFD/
My mind is wide open, OG. It is your mind that is closing down on the high GLiT bullshit. Did you ever consider that not to many people are closing down like you? Millions my foot.
You will see, JAZ. God bless you.
The USS Liberty was an unfortunate, accidental incident that occurred in the fog of war
“Yeah, that’s what is was, see? The Israelis weren’t committing a false flag with their plans of later framing their murderous crime upon Egypt in order to dupe Americans of their lives and treasure for Israel’s benefit as Mossad does war by way of deception. A pure accident, see? They couldn’t see the Stars & Stripes and all the eyewitnesses (i.e. survivors) were wrong. Yeah. That’s it. That’s the ticket!”
How’s Morgan, Heckler?
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Americans are the beaten wife who simply will not leave the relationship. “He has such pressures at work and he really does love me!” as she holds a raw steak on her fresh shiner.
““Yeah, that’s what is was, see? The Israelis weren’t committing a false flag with their plans of later framing their murderous crime upon Egypt in order to dupe Americans of their lives and treasure for Israel’s benefit as Mossad does war by way of deception. A pure accident, see?”
OG,
Oh, yesss….
I can feel my glit move….
It’s a special time when a man feels those first stirrings deep in his GLiT.
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People only move up in GLiT. Nobody ever declines.
That alone should tell you something.
They did not want to piss off the US so they shot a US ship to pieces. Somehow, that does not jibe.
Their plan was to sink the USS Liberty, frame Egypt and have no eyewitnesses (i.e. survivors). Their plan failed.
There. All jibed.
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JAZ, what is your GLiT?
For what? To block the US from knowing they attacked the Golan Heights. Really? Like the US did not know with their monitoring that troops were being withdrawn from the Sinai to attack Syria. Like the 6 day war was precipitated by the Arabs as the first attempt to drive Israel.
You people who keep talking about genocide with Israel, how about the declaration by the Ayatollah to kill all the Jews?
As to the Liberty, you obviously have not read the selection I recommended where an excruciatingly detailed description is given well.
As for my GLit? I am not participating in such a child’s game. It makes no difference, I happen to believe some of the incidents being nefarious, but some are not. All have examined to the nth degree with the final result being a political split. So we have really learned nothing except the PTB of the world are evil people.
Just like the Liberty, BRH told stories above of other stupid negligent examples of friendly fire. Read them, are they on your GLiT meter?
I will add one
The allies, after the Normandy invasion, were in a quagmire in the hedge rows of Normandy. A plan was conceived to blanket bomb the line around St. Lo, and then blast on through with tanks and infantry. The first attempt dropped bombs on the American troops killing hundreds. Oops. The second dropped bombs on both the Germans and Americans killing more hundreds of US troops, but enough damage was done to German troops to enable the breakout that eventually won the war in the West. General Eisenhower, after this debacle, banned the use of long range heavy bombers in tactical support of troops.
How does this debacle fit on your GLit meter? Was the high command trying to erase theAmerican lines?
I could never figure out why we bombed Germany during WWII. The USA ” Mighty Eighth” could mount thousand plane raids against the Reich. Wouldn’t it have been easier, cheaper, and safer to just chemtrail the enemy to death?
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The mentality of the Allies was to destroy the war making capability of Germany, and Japan. Any compassion for the “folks” was gone. It led to the blanket bombing of Dresden, et al and finally the two Atomics.
Another way might be to go after the hierarchies responsible for what was happening, Hitler and Tojo’s mob for example, instead of destroying the economy of the entire country.
Enter the CIA after WW2. Too bad US politics have destroyed the “goodness” of that organization. The Deep State is operating on the idea that Trump’s mob is enemy number one and must be destroyed. In the meantime, the BRICS++ crowd are skyrocketing in global approval.
National suicide happens from fighting within.
Saint,
I was once asked why the US never adopted the metric system. I told them it was because the Mighty 8th measured their bomb loads in pounds….
Well if you didn’t know, Germany had vast stocks of chemical weapons. Supposedly they didn’t use them because Hitler saw the affects of chemical warfare as a corporal in World war 1
Hitler saw the affects of chemical warfare – Crusher
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One of the most common errors in the English language.
For what? To block the US from knowing they attacked the Golan Heights. Really?
That is the most blatant strawman ever, JAZ. You’re arguing with yourself and seem to think that it’s with me.
For what? I don’t know the ins and outs of the intel that the USS Liberty had and what was going to happen with it next. I do know that Israel had motive and that they shalt do war by way of deception. I do know that the eyewitness survivors were proudly flying the Stars & Stripes on a clear day. I do know that one Israeli bomber came so close that he and an eyewitness survivor made eye contact while the Stars & Stripes fluttered.
They sink the USS Liberty (as they indisputably tried to do) and the unwanted intel goes away while everyone in the USA would’ve gone complete apeshit on Egypt.
That’s what for.
You people who keep talking about genocide with Israel
I never said that once.
As for my GLit? I am not participating in such a child’s game.
It is not a child’s game, JAZ. It is a Sociological test that measures how awake the subject is.
are they on your GLiT meter?
No. That would be counter-productive for what the GLiT measures.
How does this debacle fit on your GLit meter? Was the high command trying to erase theAmerican lines?
While I’m not familiar with the case, it has as much to do with a GLiT incident as what I had for breakfast this morning does.
The Glitometer sounds much like the famed Britometer or how Brittney was doing publicity wise.
The E meter of Scientology is a crude lie detector. It works, at least a bit.
The Glitometer. I like that.
Are you going to keep the i? It encourages vulgar jokes. I love humor and so do you, obviously. But people use it to escape questions and reality itself. Just one of the symptoms of a corrupt society – constant joking about everything.
I don’t allow it on certain things. Like when I posted a story about a wife chemically castrating her husband with female hormones. As the victim himself said, most women he told found it hilarious. The first poster here, a woman, joked about it. Thankfully Rowdy took it seriously. Beryl didn’t joke, just denied that such a thing ever happened or could happen. I then posted stories to her about wives poisoning their husbands. No response, of course!
“Never trust a man who never laughs or who never stops laughing – Old Persian Proverb
Also consider changing replacing one of the weaker among the ten (perhaps the Hank Paulson one) with the the alleged Hamas attack – at least once people have time to reflect on all this.
You are correct, BK. Thank you.
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GLT:
For each of these 10 big historical events, score a 1 if you believe that it was a black op and a 0 if you believe the official story.
JFK ~ 1963
USS Liberty ~ 1967
MLK ~ 1968
RFK ~ 1968
OKC ~ 1995
9/11 ~ 2001
7/7 London Subway Bombings ~ 2005
Boston Marathon ~ 2013
Vegas Turkey-Shoot ~ 2017
Israel’s 9/11 – 2023
What is your score?
[20231101]
The American Flag was prominently displayed so the Israelis knew it was an American ship. Johnson said to let them sink it rather than embarrass an ally – and such an ally! Luckily his order was ignored.
Badly wounded troops were harangued in their hospital beds, threatened with court martial and ruin if they ever breathed a word about it.
FUBAR? Mistakes were not made in the sense that you mean. It was an attack against our nation, one then supported by traitors in our nation. Why? As you say, America wasn’t entirely properly submissive enough yet and wanted to know what it was supporting.
They did not want to piss off the US so they shot a US ship to pieces. Somehow, that does not jibe. – JAZ
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Congratulations and thank you for correctly using the word jibe.
Many commentators in different places have basically said that Hamas’ initial attack on Israel was a natural result of an overwhelming desperation and exasperation with the conditions endured by the people of Gaza. Do you feel that Hamas owes an explanation as to why the cream of the Hamas crop actually live in luxurious conditions in Qatar. This all the while they plot out the battle occurring in Gaza which is hurting so many Gazans who quite evidently don’t luxuriate in Qatar.
SSL
It is all a crock of crap by the Arab League led by Iran. A peace and economic pact was about to be signed by Israel and Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE. It was not a coincidence that Hamas attacked just in time to derail this agreement.
Again and again, this is a proxy war between the Arabs, BRICS++ and a European colony, the West. Right now the extent of the Of protest, so far, in the West shows how much the global immigration invasion of the West has changed things.
No worry, Israel will kick their butts just like 1948, 1967 and 1973. BRICS++ is not done, however, as they search for other brushfire wars to advance their goals.
A really good question. What happens when BRICS++ wins the global fight? History says that the two top dogs will then duke it out to see who is the TOP DOG.
BRICS is not a military alliance, John, it is an economic alliance.
Your lurid fantasies are unfounded.
The rest of the world looks at the US stealing gold, deposits, and other assets of unfavored countries, which is illegal under international laws, but totally fine under the US-invented “rules-based order”, and they don’t like what they see.
Are you seriously defending the rules-based order? The rules are invented on-the-fly, remain secret until used, and are enforced with violence.
Why would any rational people want to continue under that system, knowing that they could be next to have their wealth confiscated, and sanctions imposed upon them, with the stated goal of impoverishing them and making their citizens suffer until they comply?
Of course, countries want to join BRICS, but it has nothing to do with starting more wars. That is a US-centric point of view.
Paula
Putin has been to NOKO, China, and Iran, documented, to get weapons for Ukraine. This whole world thing right now is the beginnings of the WEF vs. BRICS++ war to come. How many wars starting will it take to convince you?
I don’t like the US centric rules based order for sure. But I’m not super excited about BRICS either. Ultimately the problem is these massive blocs of power in the world. If Russia and China are serious about wanting a multipolar world then why are they establishing yet another monolithic bloc of countries?
They aren’t. They are establishing a multi-polar alliance.
Also, Qatar is the main sponsor of Hamas, not Iran.
Note how the propaganda never mentions that.
John has a habit of letting his emotions be manipulated by the media narrative.
Yeah, I thought Iran supports Hezbollah much more than Hamas.
It seems to be working out well economically for North Korea.
Sanctions ? What sanctions ?
For the first time in a while North Korean factories are working at full capacity and expanding capacity. So non – North Korean sources say.
They say traffic jams in train yards on the North Korean / Russian / Chinese border are becoming routine because the traffic is so heavy.
Russia is paying for the missiles.
The US is strong-arming countries into donating weapons to the Kiev regime.
That is the difference between an economic alliance and a bully-led military blcok.
a bully-led military blcok – Paula
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It is not widely known but Paula suffers from dyslexia 🙂
“It is all a crock of crap by the Arab League led by Iran.”
That argument might hold some water if Iran was a member of the Arab League, but Persians are most assuredly not Arabs.
google.com/search?q=the+arab+league+members&oq=The+Arab+League+member&gs_lcrp
Once again, JohnAZ just rambles on as if he’s some sort of geo-political expert.Pfft!
Humans are hierarchical and like to paid well for their services. The leadership of Hamas is thus like executives who get paid high six figure salaries in the non-profits. Does this mean they aren’t passionate about their cause? No. It means that they are normal people who like luxuries and fine living as compensation for their hard work.
It would be nice to have more warrior saints. And in the charities, more Gandhis and Mother Theresas.
But from a public relations standpoint it seems like a bad move. The impoverished Gazan underlings are taking the bombings and casualties and yet the leadership is saying they are so concerned about the civilians in Gaza. Well, then why don’t they live with them? Perhaps their luxurious living could have improved the economy within Gaza?
So their leaders can be killed too? They need to be there – where they can meet with their Iranian backers and and with Arab potentates to induce them to join in as well.
During the Waco disaster, Janet Reno, head of Homeland Security, didn’t go in to work so as not to give the appearance that a crisis was happening.
Past a certain point, public relations becomes just corruption and madness.
Well it does make sense to be scattered around and not all located in one space.
This will end with the Palestinians ethnically cleansed, the Israelis becoming the Nazis that have defined them for 75 years, or nuclear war in the Middle East (and possibly the world). Maybe not today or tomorrow, but sooner or later.
That the “woke” White liberals and imported minorities favor the Palestinians over the Israelis sometimes stirs an unseemly schadenfreude. Mostly its when I’m drunk and lamenting the state of America, and reflecting on the prominence of Jews in the Progressive movements that have laid America low. It’s base minded, but lately I feel rather like a man adrift and it makes me petty and mean.
My own extended family, my own children, include various ethnic and religious backgrounds. Previous generations shed their German and Irish and English identities, becoming “citizens” of empire. My generation went further and the family now includes bloodlines from all over and no religious convictions at all. Now assimilation has withered and died and along with it the American “Nation” to which I thought I belonged. New comers all remain members of the nations and tribes of their origin. When Israel is challenged American Jews reveal they never really assimilated at all, being Jewish first and American second. And I’m left with the distinct feeling of no longer belonging to any people.
The point of all this being, I no longer have any feelings of fealty to America, my loyalties stopping at the edge of my personal bloodlines. That the Jews (that had a large hand in destroying the American experiment of assimilation) and the Moslems (that come and refuse to assimilate) now appear to be in a fight to the death, is no concern of mine. It’s truly “Not my people, not my problem”.
If the situation explodes inside the US between the Jew and the Progressive have nots, you might realize that it is our problem.
The progressives have increased their influence by keeping the border open AND allowing elements like the Soros group to fan the flames with money. These “protests” are bought and paid for and aimed at the USA jugular.
Your post was solid.
In the meantime, Biden is on his way to Minnesota to sell Bidenomics.
Bidenomics, what exactly is that anyway?
Spend, spend, spend us into inflationary spirals causing interest rates to throttle the economy. We would be getting taxed over and over again to fund all of the spending except Congress doesn’t have the guts to do it.
BTW, corporations and big money people are the Dems targets for their redistribution tax plans. So far, they have been successful at pointing their fingers at these targets and convincing the public that they are evil and not the Deep State itself.
Think about it, who has their hands in your pockets, the richees and corporations or the Deep State. Do not be a US lemming.
Boy, does that sound like a plan!!!!
To destroy the USA!!!!
Do not be a US lemming.
Indeed.
Base? Is the Truth base? Among us, “based” is a compliment.
Shit stinks. People have needs. Just like individuals have needs, so do Peoples – like the need for space and their own territory. From the shit and the sink, comes soil and its wonderful based smell. And from that comes crops.
The good, the delicious, the succulent, and the wonderful smell of flowers (honeysuckle is my favorite) all come from shit. The good depends on the bad. And yes, Whites are so divorced from reality that they have to get shit faced to face the truth.
As Pat B said, the Israelis are National Socialists at their core. They know all the above. What we used to know until they made us forget. Some of them get as soft and deluded as we do, but by and large – they don’t.
If you want to know the basics of nationalist politics and economics, study Fascism. If you want to know the basics of Nationalism itself, the biological basics, study National Socialism.
People want the scent without the flower, Western Culture without the Whites who comprise it and who created it.
It cannot be.
Yes, they don’t really assimilate. And yes, not my circus not my monkeys is the right stance. But don’t just dismiss them, learn from them. They know what it takes. The Muslims of Kosovo smirked at the Serbs of Kosovo and said, We will outbreed you. And guess what? It was no idle boast. Do you think the Jews (who mostly live a Western lifestyle with a very low birthrate) were going to let themselves be outbred by Muslims? They had to do something. This is it. They’re not stuck in silly idealism like we are.
Red honeysuckle is the prettiest imo.
I’ve only ever seen white and gold. Does it smell different? Any other colors down there?
I love the little cord and the drop of nectar. I tried tasting it once but it was bitter and I let it go at that. Plants are tricky. And some of the most beautiful things are poison, pure poison.
It actually doesn’t have a strong scent. The red honeysuckle is poisonous so don’t do that lol. There are many varieties of edible honeysuckle but you should be careful because there are also many that are not and are poisonous. But either way they all appear to attract hummingbirds and I like watching them. They are so neat!
They’re not stuck in silly idealism like we are.
That says a lot. It twigs what bothers me the most about this situations: the hypocrisy.
If Israel would just come out and say, “You’ve got 2mm more refugees to deal with because we have determined that Gaza will be an Israeli paradise 5 years from now.”, then I’d respect them more than this whole ‘war by deception’ bullshit thing that they’ve always got going on.
War is deception – Sun Tzu
What better weapon than fake idealism foisted on others?
The Muslims, lower IQ’s, but just as hard and based. They see thru it. They have their own Idealism – Islam. A Globalist system of Peace based on Victory. Much like the British Empire!
As I said above, It’s a strange Universalism that destroys all particulars. As Calcagas the Celt said of the Romans, They make a desert and call it peace.
Wray says anti-semitism in the US is at historic highs.
No shit, Sherlock.
Also in Canada if OG is an indicator.
I’m not anti-Semitic. How dare you!
lol ha ha
Criticizing Israeli foreign policy is not anti-Semitism, SSL.
Oh yeah, I was laughing with you, not against you. I criticize Israeli foreign policy everyday so.
Oh. Gotcha, SSL. Bear with me, I’m completely clueless at social things.
We’ll learn you the social part, OG lol
An anti-semite used to be a person who disliked Jews. Now it is a person who Jews dislike.
Dr. Hajo Meyer, Holocaust survivor.
So, by that new definition OG, you ARE an anti-semite, because JohnAZ says so, because for many Republicans, and he is one of them, not putting Israel first is anti-American.
Forget Israel for a second.
Yellen has announced that she is doing some sort of consolidated bond sales to create the 700 billion dollars she needs to finish the year.
Get it, folks. We are already out of money.
She says she needs to make bond sales more convenient so that enough money can be generated.
Well, that sounds to me like another step towards the cliff for the American dollar.
BRICS++ reads this with a devilish grin.
Forget Israel for a second.
Yellen …
Hahaha!
It’s not anti-Semitic to point out that Jews have an outsized role at the highest levels of the US gov.
Exactly. It’s anti-truth to not do so.
And not just Jews. Dual-citizenship Jews. Israeli Jews.
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Check this out vis-à-vis who brought us the COVIDs and the jabs:
bitchuteXcom/video/5PeuHgqfFc7D/
Watch the 2:20 from 51:16-53:36.
Sad but true.
wow
That’s what you say. In the real world, it is anti-semitic to point out the obvious. And why shouldn’t it be? It’s probably anti-semitic to say there are only TWO genders, male and female.
“So what? If these people are the best we have, they should be in charge. Don’t’ you like Jewish people?”
That is how bad things are, how cleverly the Jewish lobby and Jewish money have warped the discussion in the US.
Now, at this time, whether Jewish or not, all senior US government official must be “pro-Israel”. Any public statements that even hint a questioning Israel, aka “perhaps that West Bank settlement wasn’t full approved by the Israeli government, so it may be slightly illegal” is grounds for removal.
But still, when the US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, in a war, tells the President of Egypt “I’m Jewish and blah-blah”, instead of saying “As an American…”, I think we Americans need to be aware.
So here is a short list of high-level current and former Jewish Biden Administration members, in addition to Blinken:
Secretary of Treasury, Janet Yellen
Attorney General, Merrick Garland
Secty of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas
Director of National Intelligence, Avril Hanes
White House Chief of Staff, Ron Klain
Director of CIA, David Cohen
Office of Science and Technology Policy, Eric Lander
(I KNOW there are many more, such as undersecretaries, like Victoria Nuland, architect of the Ukraine war, which JHK has fairly objectively described her)
Quite a change from the 1970s when Henry Kissinger was a novelty, as the only Jew in the Nixon’s Cabinet.
I don’t have a dog in the Israel/Hamas/Palestine fight. I only wish for innocent lives to be spared there, just as I do with the Ukraine/Russia fight. That being said, what I notice is that just as we saw with 9/11, Covid, vaccines, and Ukraine, we’re now seeing the EXACT same pattern emerge again over Israel: a simplistic “good vs evil” narrative is created by the establishment, the elite political and media classes repeat and reinforce the narrative with any and all mild questioning is deemed insufficiently supportive and therefore justified in being shouted down, dismissed, suppressed, censored, shadow-banned, and ignored. I’m surprised that JHK seems to be falling for it, right as the Ukraine fiasco seems to be in the beginning stages of being memory-holed and ret-conned by the establishment. Soon, we’ll be treated to the predictable chorus of the elites gaslighting us with statements like “we couldn’t possibly have known that Russia would win” or “we never said that we were defending democracy in Ukraine.”
To identify your master, one need merely discover whom he cannot criticize.
And to identify the lowest of the low simply consider who it is open season on.
Nice corollary.
Whites, of course.
I guess to those who see people, maybe the world, in black and white.
I don’t know ,
my guess is that like Afghanistan and Iraq , they will simply quit talking about Ukraine.
I’m NOT saying the CIA was behind the Hamas attack , in fact I would doubt it.
But it sure came at a convenient time to pivot away from a topic that the powers that be know has little support or interest.
I dare say even if Ukraine was winning , and all indications are that it is either losing , or in a bill trap stalemate ,
when monthly income is $4000 , rent is $ 1000 + , and gasoline is over $ 3 a gallon ,
the support for sending another billion to Ukraine is tissue – thin.
So pivot to yet another crisis somewhere else.
The good news to me is that I think people are growing sick , tired , and indifferent to these crisis’s as a whole.
With each crisis the emotional reaction is less , and of ever – decreasing duration.
Indeed , EXCEPT for talking heads on political message boards ,
my guess is at least 60% of the population tunes it all out automatically . And rightly so.
or in a bill trap stalemate – Kesa
and indifferent to these crisis’s as a whole. – Kesa
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What is a bill trap stalemate?
The plural of crisis is crises. Crisis’s is the possessive of a singular crisis.
I am largely in agreement with TX Hammes, who is a research fellow at the National Defense University, on the present state of this ever dynamic war.
He argues that:
The strategic goal of Hamas is the utter destruction of Israel.
Hamas used both old technology (paragliders) and new technology (drones) to defeat Israel’s forty mile, billion dollar, high-tech Gaza border wall.
Hamas used this technology to focus primarily on massacring Israeli civilians in an apparent effort to stimulate an emotional over-response from Israel.
Hamas hopes that this over-response imagery will reduce aid to Israel and block any further reconciliation between Arab nations and Israel.
Hamas may now be shifting from a terror strategy to a military strategy that focuses on Israeli security forces in Gaza.
Hammes admits, in his analysis, that he underestimated the willingness of Hamas to massacre Israelis to stimulate Israel to kill large numbers of Palestinians.
“Yeah. We were caught napping, see? Fast asleep we were. Yeah. And the outdoor Supernova Love & Peace music festival got moved there a mere two days prior on account of … acoustics. Yeah. And the photographic evidence of the 40 decapitated babies is still in the lab getting developed. Yeah, that’s what it is. So … they’re the bad guys, see? Yeah. That’s the ticket!”
OG, in your analysis of key world events I am always amazed at your determination to eliminate any type of contingency and to always replace it with an almost machine-generated type of certainty.
What do you think the origin of this impulse is?
“I calls ’em as I sees ’em.”
But, it should be noted, I am not a know-it-all as I also stay completely clear of the many, many topics that I am not so certain about.
If you were so inclined to wade in the cesspool of woke leftie websites, you’d be hard pressed to distinguish the horseshit you’d find there from a lot of what is flung around here, particularly after Oct 7. Woketardism and the Mann im Schatten phantasm are both religious in nature and as we know, dogma brooks no rational argument. For the woke, it’s the patched flat tire of racism, for the lifters of the Wizard of Oz’s curtain, it’s knowing things you don’t know or don’t want to know. Nothing in either case though, that Hitchen’s Razor can’t fix…
This is absolutely insane, when and where will it end?!?!
Dozens of Birds Named After Enslavers, Racists To Be Renamed
The American Ornithological Society said Wednesday that it would begin renaming birds in 2024 after years of consultation
Up to eighty birds, mostly in the United States and Canada, will be renamed over their links to “exclusionary and harmful” figures from history, the American Ornithological Society announced Wednesday.
The organization said that scientists had “long grappled” with practices that have excluded Black, Indigenous and other people of color, including when it comes to naming birds.
Between 70 and 80 species will now get new identities to distance them from slave owners and racists. One example is the Bachman’s Sparrow, named after a minister who claimed all humans were a “unified species” and preached to enslaved populations, while also owning slaves himself.
Others include Nuttall’s Woodpecker – named after Thomas Nuttall whose writings on indigenous peoples appeared to encourage their displacement by colonizers, and Scott’s Oriole – after Scott Winfield, a soldier tasked with “ethnic cleansing” in the South in the early 1800s.
“There is power in a name, and some English bird names have associations with the past that continue to be exclusionary and harmful today. We need a much more inclusive and engaging scientific process that focuses attention on the unique features and beauty of the birds themselves,” AOS President Colleen Handel said in a press release.
Between 70 and 80 species will now get new identities to distance them from slave owners and racists. One example is the Bachman’s Sparrow, named after a minister who claimed all humans were a “unified species” and preached to enslaved populations, while also owning slaves himself.
Others include Nuttall’s Woodpecker – named after Thomas Nuttall whose writings on indigenous peoples appeared to encourage their displacement by colonizers, and Scott’s Oriole – after Scott Winfield, a soldier tasked with “ethnic cleansing” in the South in the early 1800s.
“There is power in a name, and some English bird names have associations with the past that continue to be exclusionary and harmful today. We need a much more inclusive and engaging scientific process that focuses attention on the unique features and beauty of the birds themselves,” AOS President Colleen Handel said in a press release.
It will only end when essentially all of these societies and institutions are reduced to nothing. Basically if people want some semblance of western civilization in the future, then the current western civilization must necessarily die for that future to be born.
Another important question. Who is getting paid for this big waste of time?
It’s being spearheaded by the American Ornithological Society, so I am sure they are getting all kinds of huge federal grants for this undertaking. Must be nice….Maybe Zelinsky should offer to help them out and take a cut of the funding! lol
How many birds can you name after George Floyd? Not more than 10, but you also have the Rasheed sparrow, the Quintivarius Robin, and the Taleeb Blue Jay.
Where were you when White Bird Watchers were persecuting Black Bird Watchers?
How do you like it now, gentile man? Yo chickens have come home to roost.
Backrow, you forgot about the “Kamala Sapsucker” which is well known in these parts. I’m sure she will be honored to have a wood PECKER named after her.
Where I live there are many people who feel the Canada Goose should be renamed the New Jersey Goose due to their ubiquity in our parks and waters.
Fuck ‘em. In the unlikely event I ever go birdwatching, I’m using the old names.
Shipping Palestinians
Shipping Palestinians out of Palestine and to every which where neither solves the ‘problem(s)’ of Israel, nor Israel’s problem(s). Doing so, however, while perhaps solving some problems in the interim, may very well exacerbate problems and create new ones.
For example doing so would not only anger people directly involved but those entirely uninvolved, such as myself.
To drive my point home: If IDF and Hamas can kill civilians, then all its representative civilians everywhere are potential targets. And in societies in decline, this issue is potentially magnified.
@Zazelle @OG Removing the Palestinians has ALWAYS been the game plan. Do some research, read what many prominent Israeli Jews said and wrote during the past HUNDRED years.
Unlike the Nazis, whom Israel has emulated to a large degree
(Holocaust survivor Dr. Hajo Meyer argued in 2003 that Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is “almost identical [to] what was done to the German Jews even before the ‘Final Solution.”)
for reasons of optics and the repugnance it would generate among many Jews, the Israeli government could not just carpet bomb all the Gazans, and/or kill all the Palestinians in the West Bank by shooting or stabbing them, as the Turks did to the Armenians and other Christians starting in the late 1800s, and especially, under the cover of WW1 in 1915. A genocide Hitler cited, btw.
So, Israel opted for apartheid and making the lives of Palestinians a nightmare. “To put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger” as Dov Weisglass, senior Israeli official explained in 2006.
Well now, with the Hamas attack of Oct 07, Israel has a pretext to actually be able to kill thousands of Palestinians today without “worry”, since the USA has Israel covered, and lots of people here, including our host, are OK with that.
By killing them, the hope is this will motivate the survivors to leave. If they don’t, they are “terrorist accomplices”. With those two words, it’s OK to kill any Palestinian.
The situation in Gaza is also allowing Israelis to kill and harass more West Bank Palestinians than ever. Once Gaza is “cleared”, the West Bank will be next. Toward that end, Israel is fanning the flames pushing the Palestinians more than EVER.
And then Israel will have a “pure” Jewish* state. But not for long. That will sharpen the lines for WW3. And without Palestinian hostages, while I think Israel definitely has WMD, it becomes a target for WMD. And it would only take one or two WMD getting through to end Greater Israel.
*Are today’s Ashkenazi “Jews” really descended from the 12 tribes of Israel in the old testament? Or, are they Khazars, a warlike Caucasian people from the steppes of Central Asia, who adopted Judaism, and in their migrations made it as far west as the Ukraine (what a coincidence), on the north shore of the Black Sea, before being defeated/absorbed by other evolving peoples….
No one on CFN has used the term Khazar except me. Maybe it’s just a lot of hot air? There is a LOT of knowledge in the comments here, and I was hoping for some one to address the Khazars. I’m reading, but don’t know enough to comment.
If the majority of todays “Jews” in Israel are Khazars, then it would seem to me to be quite a deception of the Caucasian world, from the Persian and Russians to the Europeans to the Arabs and Greeks in between.
Just look up ‘Khazar myth of Ashkenazi origins’ on wikipedia. That’ll tell you all you need to know.
“…all you need to know.”
Who decides this?
“There have been many individuals over the centuries who have converted to Judaism. There are millions of Falashi Jews who are black-skinned. There are Chinese Jews and Japanese Jews, as well as others who are of various shades of color. But the most important are the Khazar Jews, whose ancestors converted to Judaism about 640 A.D. These alone form about 85-95% of today’s Jews.
Of course, the Jews have engaged in a long-running dispute whether they are a race or a religion. Those who believe in a “Jewish race” find themselves undone by the Khazar conversion to Judaism, since the Khazars were not descendants of Israel or Judah at all.
Others, who understand that many Jews are descendants of converts from other ethnicities and races, have a more plausible argument that Jewish identity is religious, not racial. However, since most Christians are unaware of the multi-racial complexion of those claiming Jewish identity, they continue to believe (as I was raised to believe) that the Jews are the purest race on earth.
The Times article says, “In 2012, Israeli researcher, Eran Elhaik published a study claiming to prove that Khazar ancestry is the single largest element in the Ashkenazi gene pool.” Eran Elhaik is a geneticist at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health. His DNA studies show that the vast majority of the world’s Jews—those from Eastern Europe—did not originate in Palestine, nor were they genetically descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but were converts to Judaism around 640 A.D.”
I will decide what I need to know.
godskingdom.org/studies/ffi-newsletter/2015/the-khazars-in-prophecy/
” When Israel is challenged American Jews reveal they never really assimilated at all, being Jewish first and American second. ”
This has shocked me more than pretty much anything else about JHK’s comments.
Where did JHK write this?
Your quoted comment is KarlDehrmann’s on November 1, 2023 at 10:29 am
Yes, this is a later reply to Karl.
Where has JHK written this?
This is IMO very strongly implied in all of the posts he has written since Oct. 7.
The idea that supporting the Zionist state is not really in the USA’s interests has not made an appearance that I am aware of.
JHK seems to be fine with the idea that the USA are joined at the hip, head, and heart.
Hip, head, heart and wallet.
Understood.
The State Versus Grassroots Immigration
“The new [genetic] study puts an end to these debates and it has thus come as a shock to the Hindu right-wing. In a tweet attacking its co-author Prof Reich, ruling party MP and former Harvard University professor Subramanian Swamy said: ‘There are lies, damned lies and (Harvard’s ‘Third’ Reich and Co’s) statistics.’
However, the real message that the new research carries is an exciting and hopeful one: that Indians have created a long-lasting civilisation from a variety of heredities and histories.
The genius of the Indian civilisation during its best periods has been inclusion, not exclusion. Unity in diversity is, indeed, the central theme of India’s genetic make-up.” ~ Tony Joseph, author of Early Indians: The Story of Our Ancestors and Where We Came From, published by Juggernaut
The above assumes, of course, that the genetic study wasn’t somehow doctored. 😉
This from the culture that had the caste system for 4-5 millennia. Sounds like another high quality piece of scholarship coming from Gaza on the Charles
Gaza on the Charles
Hahahaha!!! Good one.
Adding to this piece of Harvard trash.
Indian society has been held in place by its edition of medieval Europe, the caste system and also the threat of reincarnation.
Also, the Muslims showed up and like here in the USA, did not assimilate into Indian society. When the British left with their control, even Ghandi could not prevent India splitting into two parts, religion drive.
The USA finds itself in the same unassimilated posture with pending separation as a distinct possibility.
Genetic diversity a cause of societal stability, my foot.
It is interesting too that all the elements of British control in the empire have violently fallen apart. I guess that colonial Europe’s world plans have been a failure.
JAZ, it’s not Harvard exactly, though. It’s just led by a geneticist from there.
“It is interesting too that all the elements of British control in the empire have violently fallen apart. I guess that colonial Europe’s world plans have been a failure..” ~ JohnAZ
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Looks like a premonition for Israel.
kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/jihad-by-god/#comment-836541
(shrug)
India is 80% Hindu.
Hindus don’t get along with Muslims and Sikhs as is evidenced by their history.
You better demand your money back (or your parents’ money) from that backwater excuse for a University.
Now you’re giving thumbs up to Tony Joseph, supporter of the Aryan Invasion theory?
Gish galloping schizophrenia.
For accounts of actual living, breathing, contemporary human beings, read Aravind Adiga’s novels and short stories. On-the-ground politics and power plays. And, unlike ideological studies, entertaining.
“The most recent study on this subject, led by geneticist David Reich of Harvard University, was published in March 2018 and co-authored by 92 scholars from all over the world – many of them leading names in disciplines as diverse as genetics, history, archaeology and anthropology…”
Looks like you’ve got 92 co-authors to argue with. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
“Looks like you’ve got 92 co-authors to argue with. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.” — Zaz
There’s yer textbook gish gallop, folks!
Face it, fraud. You haven’t read any of the authors you paste, not their books, not even a full article. They’re provided to you by your 200,000K per annum profs at Colonial Studies 101.
It’s one study.
Good luck also with your review of the gish gallop definition.
The Reich study?
No, not “one study.”
“Good luck also with your review of the gish gallop definition.” — Zaz
You got embarressed when I kept hammering you on what you were doing when you posted a flood of wall quotes by different sources, which is the definition of gish gallop.
So you shifted your tactics. You then started separating out your single-post lifted quotes, one at a time, but it just meant that you pasted them more often, i.e. six posts of one quote each over several hours rather than having them all in one long text wall.
So you see, I’ve cottoned on to that, too. Still a gish gallop, in essence. Your easily seen-through transparent dishonesty is quite funny, though.
“The Reich study?
No, not ‘one study.’ ” ~ Islander
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“The most recent study…” ~ quoted article
@Soul Forensics:
kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/jihad-by-god/#comment-836719
The Aryans did invade. That’s not to say there was no culture there before. They sacked cities for god’s sake!
Sanskrit is close to Lithuanian in particular….
Did you have a buffer (Gurdjieff) between these two sets of facts?
From the same article about that:
“As it happens, many 19th Century European ethnographers and, of course, most famously, Adolf Hitler, also considered Aryans the master race who had conquered Europe, although the German leader considered them to be of Nordic lineage.
When scholars use the term Aryan, it refers to a group of people who spoke Indo-European languages and called themselves Aryans. And that is how I have used it in this article. It does not refer to a race, as Hitler used it or as some in the Hindu right wing use it.“
Missed my point, Jarek. Zaz is supporting the “raciss” Reich and Joseph (the author of Zaz’s cut-and-paste who supported Reich).
The irony is superb, but of course his prof, like most, is also too stupid to parse out any detail, let alone complexity.
Also ironic is that Joseph, an atheist, even admits that India’s secular garden of Eden was fractured before the caste system became codified.
And his ancient fields of cross-pollinated bliss occurred during the long Vedic period, beginning 6,000 years BC. Seems he underestimates the ancient gods! Not good karma there, Tony, and makes a hash of your simple thesis.
But above all, imagine the hubris, the sheer arrogance of a know-nothing taking a book that tries to order a million-foot overview of complex genealogies, and crafting an argument that … supports anarchy?
Next gish gallop, please.
Tony Joseph is the author of the article about the study, not the leader of the study, itself.
Can’t you get anything right?
I know, dummy.
Did you talk to any Harappans? Any ground work? Street interviews?
The French Canadians famously went with language as the basis of culture. Now they have gang battles in the streets.
In any case, it was just a pretext for mass invasion of all races and religions.
Genes, followed by Culture is the best basis for immigration. Not language.
Jarek like people in general, many so-called ‘French Canadians’ gave little shit about the politics, including that related to language (although in Quebec’s case it was also politicized as ‘language and culture’.)
Some more from the previously-quoted article:
“Tensions between the two groups backing these opposing theories have only increased in the last few years, especially since the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) came to power in India in 2014.
Into this long-running dispute has now stepped the relatively new discipline of population genetics, which has started using ancient DNA to figure out when people moved where…
The most recent study on this subject, led by geneticist David Reich of Harvard University, was published in March 2018 and co-authored by 92 scholars from all over the world – many of them leading names in disciplines as diverse as genetics, history, archaeology and anthropology…
The study showed that there were two major migrations into India in the last 10,000 years.
The first one originated from the Zagros region in south-western Iran (which has the world’s first evidence for goat domestication) and brought agriculturists, most likely herders, to India.
This would have been between 7,000 and 3,000BCE. These Zagrosian herders mixed with the earlier inhabitants of the subcontinent – the First Indians, descendants of the Out of Africa (OoA) migrants who had reached India around 65,000 years ago – and together, they went on to create the Harappan civilisation.
In the centuries after 2000 BCE came the second set of immigrants (the Aryans) from the Eurasian Steppe, probably from the region now known as Kazakhstan…
Other genetic studies have brought to light more migrations into India, such as that of the speakers of Austro-Asiatic languages who came from south-eastern Asia.
India’s population is made up of a number of layers, according to the research
As I write in my book, the best way to understand the Indian population is to imagine it as a pizza, with the first Indians forming its base. Though the base of this rather irregular pizza is thin in some places and thick in others, it still serves as the support that the rest of the pizza is built upon because studies show that 50% to 65% of the genetic ancestry of Indians derives from the First Indians.
On top of the base comes the sauce that is spread over the pizza – the Harappans. And then come the toppings and the cheese – the Austro-Asiatic, Tibeto-Burman and Indo-European language speakers or Aryans, all of whom found their way into the subcontinent later…
The idea of the mixing of different population groups is also unappealing to Hindu nationalists as they put a premium on racial purity. There is also the additional issue of the migration theory putting Aryans on the same footing as latter-day Muslim conquerors of India – such as the Mughals.”
India is a dump.
China’s a mess.
Yeah.
India is a dump. – gustaf
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V.S. Naipaul essentially confirms ^this^ statement in his book “An Area of Darkness.”
Naipaul is of Indian heritage but was born and raised in Trinadad. As an adult he made his first trip to India and was appalled by things he saw and experienced there.
Naipaul is a great writer. He died in 2018 at 86 y/o.
UNESCO Heritage Superfund Site
(new category)
You cribbed this verbatim from amazon. You realize that these extended blurbs are nothing more than promo-copy, right?
You want debate, or is this a knock-out brawl between competing marketing departments?
biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/03/31/292581.full.pdf
Have at it.
Have at what? LOL! Go fetch, Junior.
And then come the toppings and the cheese – Zaz
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I think you have things out of order here, Zaz. I would have written “And then come the cheese and the toppings.”
I’ve read that Hamas has installed 300 miles of tunnels under the Gaza Strip. Some as deep as 200 feet. Amazing. My state built 2-3 miles of tunnels under Boston and it cost 22 billion dollars and took 25 years from design to completion. After completion the leaks and falling ceiling have been a problem. Good ol’ USA grift and huge cost overuns. Those Hamas guys must be the best civil engineers on Earth. Israel says the only way to dislodge the terrorists is to bomb the living shit out of the place.
No environmental review and if you give them any of that NIMBY shit, they throw you off a roof.
Yes, who could deliver and lay in the most concrete the fastest for the least. A race to the bottom like so much of Capitalism is. Funny the Libertarians never talk about that part.
Those paid to oversee were evidently paid not to see.
See? GOVERNMENT! As if no oversight at all is what’s needed.
See? GOVERNMENT! As if no oversight at all is what’s needed. – Jar
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For most of my career I worked in Finance for a very large defense contractor. The last 10 years or so was in the Government Compliance Department. I interfaced daily with DCAA (Defense Contract Audit Agency) whose personnel were resident in our buildings.
It is a common but absurd belief that these government employees/auditors didn’t take their jobs seriously. People act as if they sat around all day reading comic books and eating bon bons. I can assure you from personal experience that this is not the case.
“All political systems that I know of, and most kings, have moved their whole nation to desert. And the things that we saw as most proud– the cities and the canals and irrigation and so on– are the things that killed their cultures. And it continues, unabated. If people don’t seize power back, and make their own gardens, and sit in their own gardens of Eden, then we’re all doomed, and the whole world ends in dust.” ~ Bill Mollison
Well, you’re not making much of an Eden at CFN, Zaz. In fact, I’d be so bold as to say you’re agitating, and are a big cause of dissension!
Sounds like you need a change of diaper.
That’s not very communal of you.
Well, apparently Hamas have tunneled underground like rats; IDF will need to smoke them out with mustard gas & flame throwers. That’s the only way.
Kind of ironic, gas chambers and all?
Why not just continue to bomb population areas? That seems to be working just fine, unless one cares about genocide.
This is most elucidating/ JohnAZ will certainly love it.
youtube.com/watch?v=g0krNAlEdSA
Tweedledum
I tried, it said it wasn’t available anymore.
What did it say?
Just as a follow-up: re Buffy Saint Marie:
The Boston Globe today had an article on Buffy that said Canadian investigators have found her birth certificate which stated she was born in Stoneham, Ma to a Winifred Santamaria, an Italian American. Just like I intimated several days ago.
In the article, Buffy apparently backtracked somewhat about her indigenous heritage. She said she actually really doesn’t know where she was from.
Bill, what harm was caused by Buffy pretending to be an Indian? It’s all showbiz. And to be fair over the decades she participated in many fundraising campaigns to improve conditions on Reservations. I knew a guy in college who claimed he was from Ireland & spoke with a brogue, turned out he was an Itakian from New Haven. Part of being an American is you can reinvent yourself if you want to.
If you’re part of a favored minority group, it’s incumbent on you to maintain the boundaries of your group and keep outsiders from joining in order to get the gibs.
The more who join, the smaller the pieces of pie the real members will get. I hope you now see why they react so strongly to this kind of poaching.
Now, the real question: If Whites are on top, why are so many so desperate to claim other ancestry no matter how small – or even non-existent? Whites clearly aren’t on top and haven’t been for a very long time.
That’s a good question, Jarek. We thought it was pretty funny when Alex Baldwin’s wife claimed to be a Spaniard from Madrid like Rita Hayworth but turned out to be a Whitebread society girl from Boston.
Yeah, personal fancies are one thing, but there’s a much deeper level. Don’t expect the Blacks or Indians to take this lightly.
How about all those medals the brass wear now. Imaginary valor? Or how about stolen valor? Bet you don’t like that at all.
But back to my point above: The exotic is attractive, that’s always been true. So that ties in with fancies that are rewarded – the carrot.
More and more Whites are going to be running from the horror of what Whites have been made into in the media – and that’s the stick.
Saint,
My favorite character in “Goodfellas” was…Ricky Carbone…I shit you not.
BRH,
An Italian posing as Irish? Goddamned social climber….
I remember the kid was into theater, which apparently spilled over into his real life ~ if you can call life in a dorm real life.
I learned my Great-Great Grandfather, Deshawn Guiseppe Carbone, was born on a plantation in Possumneck, MS back in the mid 1800’s. That be my story and I’m stickin’ wid it. Gimme yo money, Whitey!
RFK Jr.’s donor data reveals his 2024 threat
politico.com/news/2023/11/01/rfk-jr-2024-campaign-donors-00124621
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is collecting checks from past Donald Trump donors at a much higher rate than former Joe Biden contributors, a sign the independent presidential hopeful may pull more from the Republican electorate than Democratic voters.
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I owe an apology to someone here on CFN but I can’t remember who.
When Bobby Jr went Independent, someone here said that that could do more GOP damage than Dem damage. I said, ‘No. He is a Dem, he will split the Dem vote which will aid the GOP.’
It now looks that I might’ve been wrong.
Maybe, OG
I notice that a lot of Trump Supporters are having trouble with his support of the Fauci team and especially the vax. These are probably the folks jumping ship. He, RFK,Jr. Is still primarily a liberal Democrat that will drive most conservatives away as the campaign progresses.
He does not have a chance in Democratic politics as IMHO, I think he blames the Biden/Obama/Clinton side with the demise of his family. These three control the party.
It is interesting. I have heard that less than 20 people control the world. I am starting to believe that wholeheartedly.
Yes, look at the reverse side of the dollar bill. The Capstone is itself a mini-pyramid. There may be a King of the World someday – if there isn’t already.
20 or less.
Anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knew he was going to split the vote for Trump–at best.
Most of his rhetoric is the polar opposite of what the wokester class wants, which naturally makes him appealing to anyone against the Covid Hoax and associated measures.
There is no one to vote for if one cares about the future in view of the unbelievable losses in human rights and freedom over the past few years–and the plans to further consolidate control in a cashless, digitized plantation.
I guess that I don’t have two brain cells to rub together.
But at t least I’m a stand-up guy and can admit to (and even bring attention to) being wrong.
The post wasn’t about you, you stupid fucking deranged attention whore.
The post wasn’t about you, you stupid fucking deranged attention whore.
That is your response to my agreement with you of my thread which I started with the fact that I do not measure up to your response of “[a]nyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knew he was going to split the vote for Trump–at best” is not about me and I am despicable for even going there?
I thank God that I do not have a soyboy brain.
It looks to me like Israel’s response to Hamas has ripped yet another immense gap across the US public, spanning right to left.
I thank our host for his take on the situation.
Bummer of a place to try to build a Homeland!
My own definition of Zionism, though, has come to differ considerably from the dictionary’s and involves words like “corruption,” “victim entitlement” and “psychopathic rule.”
We all knew the cookie was going to crumble, and history shows that cookies tend to crumble in certain ways, many of which we will not like very much.
As yet unanswered questions for Zazelle:
1) How does Tony Joseph resolve the glaring internal contradiction between the fact of his atheism and his ardent admiration for the ancient Vedic/Hindu religion and culture?
2) Also from 5,000 years BC India, what does Zazelle have to say about Ayurveda’s warning of the mixing amongst different tri-dosha combinations, especially out-of-balance pittas with deranged vatas, and how would/could that be resolved in an anarchistic community?
3) Are there any hierarchies of knowledge in an idealistic community, an anarchist one, as is the issue here? How would spiritual knowledge be passed down without the historical miracle of an Indian Advaita Vedanta tradition where the master-student relationship is sacred? And since it’s categorically kaput under the brain-dead democratic decision-making promulgated by fledgling anarchist communities, what would happen to this ancient lineage, one of many lineages that Joseph, in his catch-all thematic, should approve?
4) How would Zazelle manage the inevitable, long-standing, and desperate internal India migration during periods, as now, of joblessness, famine, flood, and cultural persecution. In other words, how would he handle the disaffected internal emigre? Would it be similar to the hunter-gatherers’ response, to politely shun, not offer help, and force the troubled individual to a different location and tribe? If so moved, that must mean that the new tribe is, by definition, lax and unsuccessful. What is the outcome, then, for these failed anarchy communes?
No cut-and-pastes (nor in any responses). No outside quotes. Go to it, Zaz!
Despite your contortions and gish gallops (as one might internalize from other struggles elsewhere/elsewhen and project), the point or hypothesis is/was rather simple:
An ‘insta-State’ plunked down (just add meat and stir) on a land and a people may not work as well as the allowing of natural migration patterns.
I’ve already expressed this sort of thing previously hereon but I guess you missed it.
I was actually looking for something else, if maybe related WRT the India article-in-question, and/but thought to post it anyway.
As for your comment here, I’ll let you soak in it all you want. I’m in peak cold right now and soothing it while posting this from the bathtub in a nice hot bath with the laptop on a footstool just beside it.
Envy’s hidden hand
Namibian hunter-gatherers deride those who stand out. What does this tell us about why, and how, we care about fairness?
“This research also revealed that the Ju/’hoansi were able to make a good living from a sparse environment because they cared little for private property and, above all, were ‘fiercely egalitarian’… It showed that the Ju/’hoansi had no formalised leadership institutions, no formal hierarchies; men and women enjoyed equal decision-making powers; children played largely noncompetitive games in mixed age groups; and the elderly, while treated with great affection, were not afforded any special status or privileges. This research also demonstrated how the Ju/’hoansi’s ‘fierce egalitarianism’ underwrote their affluence. For it… ensured that no-one bothered accumulating wealth and simultaneously enabled limited resources to flow organically through communities, helping to ensure that even in times of episodic scarcity everyone got more or less enough.
There is no question that this dynamic was very effective. If a society is judged by its endurance over time, then this was almost certainly the most successful society in human history – and by a considerable margin. New genomic analyses suggest that the Ju/’hoansi and their ancestors lived continuously in southern Africa from soon after modern H sapiens settled there, most likely around 200,000 years ago…
As importantly, genome mutation-rate analyses suggest that the broader population group from which the Ju/’hoansi descended, the Khoisan, were not only the largest population of H sapiens, but also did not suffer population declines to the same extent as other populations over the past 100,000 years…
Ju/’hoansi egalitarianism was not born of the ideological dogmatism that we associate with 20th-century Marxism or the starry-eyed idealism of New Age ‘communalism’. There was no manifesto of ‘primitive communism’. Rather, it was the organic outcome of interactions between people acting explicitly in their own self-interest in a highly individualistic society. This was because, among foraging Ju/’hoansi, self-interest was always policed by its shadow, envy – which, in turn, ensured that everyone always got a fair share, and that those with the natural charisma and authority to ‘lead’ exercised it with great circumspection. This was best exemplified in the customary ‘insulting’ of the hunter’s meat.
Skilled Ju/’hoansi hunters needed a thick skin. For while a particularly spectacular kill was always cause for celebration, the hunter responsible was insulted rather than flattered.” ~ aeon.co/essays/why-inequality-bothers-people-more-than-poverty
This political setup only works under the specific (or very analagous) physical conditions of this tribe—this exact population-density, environment and economy.
Well who’d have thought that the laws of physics could have produced life and life like us, especially during the universe’s early phase when there wasn’t much more than hydrogen and helium?
Zaz implores us to ‘Go Native’ and adopt a paleolithic way of life as a pathway to Anarchistic Nirvana.
What if this way of life is the mean to which all flights of civilization will inevitably return for as long as humans hang around?
Why would you suppose that this way of life represents any kind of “mean”? Based on what we know of paleolithic peoples, this Namibian culture lies somewhere between highly unusual and unique–if the story you quote is true at all.
The actual paleolithic culture that we know about were usually quite violent, waged continual war with their neighbors, and were often practiced slavery and were into cannibalism. Hunter-gatherer societies have trouble maintaining population. I have even read that some of the Native American tribes were pretty keen of capturing/adopting children, because so many tribes had a shortage of kids. I have never read any analysis as to why that is, but one would tend to think that it wasn’t because of fewer live births, so the assumption would be that the inability to reproduce beyond replacement level was because of high mortality rates–possibly infant mortality, but possibly due to high mortality rates for adults as well.
I don’t think high mortality rates are desirable. I also don’t believe that any resulting population constraints lead to idyllic egalitarian societies. Population constraints are caused by either predation or resource constraints. In the case of humans, predation mostly means war. “Resource constraints” usually means people are going hungry a lot.
We get that you don’t like the modern world. But human societies have always (mostly) been fractious, and they’ve also almost always rested on a slender material basis–if not a precarious one. This idea that humans would be really nice, if only there weren’t so many of them, is a little silly.
I also get that you don’t like people, in which case it sounds to me like you need to move. There are lots of sparsely populated places.
Civilization civilizes people.
A bit triggered, Anthea..
It’s telling how entrenched many people are in attachment to their concepts of hideous prehistoric “barbarity.” Evidence-free, usually, as here.
And of course, to suggest this supposed extreme barbarity is a matter of significant prejudice, supposition and exaggeration is to immediately be tagged a “utopian” or “noble-savagist,” or something like a “people-hater.”
The evidence indicates certain relatively equal amounts of barbarity are a constant through all human social structures. Other criteria, which are not common to all social structures, recommend primitive simplicities over civilization’s complexities.
“Civilization civilizes people.”
One of the most popular myths running.
Okay, evidence?
Anthea, even if we take, for the sake of argument that, say, most human prehistoric organization was violent (whatever that means, but ok, let’s accept an assumption for that too) it doesn’t seem to necessarily stand to reason that the future will be entirely like that. It may be likely but not necessarily written in stone, at least not for everyone, every group, everywhere.
Why? Because there’s evolution for one.
I mean, how are we even communicating right now? What’s up with that? Or our thick skulls.
BTW, for the record, I’m less-than-thrilled by many people, myself, as it is imagined you are.
You only have to read some of the tripe on here and elsewhere and/or look at politics and so on, and as an anarchist no less, to be so inclined.
Wait, what? Anthea is not down for hunting Mastadons with spears, dodging Sabretooth Tigers, and dying at age 29?
Anthea you are off the Anarchist recruitment list.
People want the goodies of civilization without the accompanying downsides, never guessing the two are inseparable.
I hope you’re at least not patting your back for that dorky comment are u?
Says BackRowHeckler on a ‘collapse/clusterfuck’ blog.
There are plenty of collapse-minded/aware people who see nothing wrong with stateism and agricultural paradigms, I’m just not one of them.
Fair enough.
There are only about 100,000 Khoisan people living today. However, 22,000 years ago the Khoisan were the most populous group of humans inhabiting the entire planet
Insulting people while eating the food they provided. Sounds familiar.
Peach – pickers never get any respect.
In this particular case that is a real tragedy .
70 years of glossing over the fact that it was the biggest economy of peach – pickers and small shop – keepers in history that won the biggest war in history in only four years.
One can imagine how well the Khoisan Egalitarians did against the Bantu “big man” Cultures coming down from the north. About as well as the Bonobos would do if the Chimps ever get across the Congo river.
But the Bantus are cruel! And mocking the successful people isn’t? Shades of Nietzsche’s writings anent spiteful losers.
“Live by the sword; die by the sword” could have long-range historical implications.
Good morning CFN 🙂
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I don’t know , the black sun strikes me as kinda ominous.
I prefered the heart.
Maybe more hearts , with maybe an XO , XO thrown in for good measure.
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Was the CFN smilie always this cute , or am I just now noticing it was always cute ?
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Good effort anyways.
Good effort anyways. – Kesa
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Some people say anyway and others, like you, prefer anyways. I’m in the anyway camp.
Lol the smilie is cuter now. I think Word Press updated at some point months ago and the emoticons got a little cuter altogether.
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Good morning Big Kahuna xoxoxox
lol
Good morning, Vietnam. Many flowers there. We need to bring back flower girls – everywhere!
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yay they worked lol
What’s your secret? I’m envious.
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Looks like we’ll be tripping the light fantastic with our emojis ay?
Wow y’all!! It looks like ballot stuffing and election fraud are real after all! But it’s bad and definitely heard by a court only when it impacts Dems?
theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/11/01/connecticut-judge-throws-out-election-results-and-orders-new-primary-after-shocking-evidence-of-democrat-ballot-fraud/
Where is Mike Sherman (Majella)?
We need to hear how this can possibly be.
Majella would probably say that in this case the Judge did everything perfectly. Fairly predictable stuff. Would be fun to be surprised though!
I have always held that American elections are fixed.
Still , I thought stopping the Florida re – count ( Bush / Gore ) was really , really , really bad optics.
And so it has been ever since.
I was too young to get that one totally. Though I remember the take away is that Gore won but they wanted to give the crown to Bush anyway. I do remember seeing lots of Democrats on the news being full fledged “election deniers”.
Speaking of war, oh my God, is he serious?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr
@RobertKennedyJr
White House neocons are deceiving the American people about the Ukraine war. The big question is: are they also lying to President Biden in order to block a diplomatic resolution and keep their “splendid little war” going?
https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1719828085921792174?s=20
I’ll answer these two questions:
1) Biden isn’t aware of anything, you fool.
2) No.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr
@RobertKennedyJr
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Is President Biden aware of all these machinations to prevent peace in Ukraine? Equally important, will the tame White House press corps force him to explain the U.S. role in derailing peace talks?
https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1719836891032453251?s=20
There’s a story in Time Magazine that is attempting to place the blame for Ukraine solely on their president, yet also tries to exonerate him in a way by painting him as overwhelmed and delusional; sort of a well-intentioned Hitler.
Bobby Jr.- Biden is a BAD GUY. He has no redeeming qualities. He is rotten to the core.
So is his entire family. They are no good.
Another thing, people besides me are starting to notice your seeming lack of awareness of what is happening right now to Joe’s political rival.
Does this sound legal to anybody?
“Here’s what happened:
1. Biden asked NARA to remove Trump’s executive privilege over documents
2. NARA granted it
3. Biden declared documents reclassified
4. Biden used new classification to order Mar-A-Lago raid”
https://x.com/imjdsharp/status/1719797408714887619?s=20
It seems like the biggest interest for those who are heavily invested in the Ukraine war is in the upcoming rebuilding effort. Assuming Russia doesn’t take over completely. BlackRock, Vanguard, JP Morgan, etc., already have plans in place to capitalize and profit on those efforts. They wanted all of their biolabs, child trafficking, and organ harvesting operations evidence destroyed by the war and they want to make billions upon billions redeveloping. Personally, I hope Russia completely destroys all of their ambitions. And them.
The Bidens are a crime family and Joe Biden was illegally installed into office. If there were actual justice in the world he and everyone within his regime would be criminally prosecuted and likely also prosecuted for international war crimes and genocide.
Bobby Jr. can’t keep pretending he’s totally unaware of all this. He’s been asked, directly, about it, but so far he hasn’t answered.
It seems lie a fair question for a man who is running for president; what he thinks of what one of his political rivals, the one in power, is doing to their other rival.
“Hey Bobby, what do you think about what he’s doing to Trump? Have you addressed this? Maybe I missed it. Obviously he should provide you SS protection too but I would like to hear you loudly and clearly say your thoughts about this American travesty committed against Trump”
https://x.com/realkarenfitz/status/1718061076296749510?s=20
I personally would like him to sit down with Julie Kelly and learn about the January 6 “insurrection”.
Maybe he believes in the insurrection narrative? I get the sense he dislikes Trump more than he dislikes Biden.
Elon Musk told Joe Rogan that the covid 19 pandemic was really a ventilator pandemic. Well lol, more like ventilators killed millions of the people who “officially” died from covid.
thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/elon-musk-says-ventilators-not-covid-19-virus/
SSL Funny line from your link of the Musk interview and his opinions about the overuse of ventilators.
Musk:
And people yelled at me and said, “You’re not a doctor.” I’m like, “Yeah, but I do make spaceships with life support systems. What do you do?” Musk added.
Yeah lol, Elon often has a dry sense of humor but he is very witty about it 🙂
He is that. He’s merry, too.
Also, Elon is African American. Don’t ever let them forget it!
Ha! You’re right. He’s merry. You never hear of anybody being merry any more … but he is.
A merry African American!!
Elon’s mother was born in Regina, SK. Elon himself spent 1989 on a farm near the Mennonite community of Waldeck, SK.
A fella can learn very different things in Regina vs Waldeck.
Buffy claimed to be born in the Regina area. God’s country!
But she was not.
“An anti-semite used to be a person who disliked Jews. Now it is a person who Jews dislike.”
Dr. Hajo Meyer, Holocaust survivor.
So, by that new definition OG, you ARE an anti-semite, because JohnAZ says so, because for many Republicans, and he is one of them, not putting Israel first is anti-American.”
– SocDet
Thank you, SocDet. That explains a lot.
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Regardless of the slings-and-arrows name-calling, I will continue my quest for the truth and let the chips fall where they may.
” The post wasn’t about you, you stupid fucking deranged attention whore. ”
— Night Owl
I haven’t done a rigorous scientific study ,
but I would roughly guess that the post count would be around 500 ,
if not for OG , JohnAZ , and Zaz.
For the moment that wouldn’t bother me . A post count of 500 might illustrate visibly that Middle Eastern squabbles are not as popular as the powers – that – be make them out to be.
I once built a quick little data system that took a CFN thread and spit-out a ranked list of user handles with with their number of posts on that thread. Like an NHL scoring race (for the Art Ross Trophy – most points in a season).
Maybe I should resurrect that product. And give it a funky name.
Clustometer?
The blah-blah-blah Gauge?
Posterrhea?
lol, Middle Eastern squabbles
It is a little bit crazy. Those Middle Easterners have had centuries to work out their differences and get settled in, accepting one another’s differences and just living life. Instead, they get more and more belligerent, and now here we are, facing yet another threat of armegeddon. At the end of the day, it all gets a little tiring and old hat. Just love one another and do good work here as God intended. Is that too much to ask?
There is no love without vairagya or non-attachment. The process of attaining unto vairagya? Sacrifice. The giving up of things and ultimately, yourself.
Saints can give up everything because others will take of them. Householders can not. Much less politicians whose task is to take of their people.
The Gaza situation has to be resolved by mutual sacrifice. Neither side is very good at that, obviously.
I agree! Simmer down now! That is what they need to do.
Anyone care to post a list of agendas that are vying for power and pecking order?
Sort the list from the one you believe to be the most dominant to least, and add ones that attach to a more primary one. Like so:
(I) China being the Center of the World
(A) The Belt and Road Initiative
(B) BRICS
(1) Make Russia Great again
(2) Iran to control the ME
(II) 2030 Agenda
(A) WEF Great Reset
(1) G-7 Build Back Better
(a) US Build Back Better
(i) Bernie Sanders’ Progressive Priorities
(B) Soros Open Society Foundations
(c) Israel fighting for domination or survival?
Is any of this right? Any other major agendas? Then I suppose there are a bunch that are fighting for pecking order?
It’s a fine start.
Some quick thoughts of things that warrant inclusion:
Climate
Paradise
Lahaina
Acapulco
WHO
Gates Foundation
GAVI
Fauci/DoD
Pfizer/Moderna/AZ/J&J
DEWs/HAARP
Paradise
Lahaina
Acapulco
We have truly entered polycrisis.
Why are the last three mentioned twice?
Because they belong under both headings: Climate & DEWs/HAARP.
I had inserted spaces to have it appear as an outline but WordPress stripped them from me.
January 6 Investigations
White Nationalism
The War Against Men
Tranny/Sex Change Agendas
Digital Currency
5G Advanced or 5.5G Networks (to be rolled out by 2025, just in time for the next scamdemic)
So where do you see all of your agendas fitting in?
Does B1ai (Destruction to make way for BBB) cover most of it?
(I) China being the Center of the World
….(A) The Belt and Road Initiative
……..(1) Saudi Arabia Vision 2030 (straddling the fence, and making a showing for money and power) and similar with the other Vision 2030
….(B) BRICS
……..(1) Make Russia Great again
……..(2) Iran to control the ME
(II) The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development
….(A) The 17 Goals
……..(1) End poverty in all its forms everywhere
……..(2) End hunger, food security, improved nutrition, and promote sustainable agriculture
……..(3) Good Health and Well-Being
…………(a) WHO
……..(4) Quality Education
……..(5) Gender Equality
……..(6) Clean Water and Sanitation
……..(7) Affordable and Clean Energy
……..(8) Decent Work and Economic Growth
……..(9) Industry, Innovation, and Infrastructure
……..(10) Reduced Inequalities
……..(11) Sustainable Cities and Communities
……..(12) Responsible Consumption and Production
……..(13) Climate Action
……..(14) Life Below Water
……..(15) Life on Land
……..(16) Peace, Justice and Strong Institutions
…………(a) Digital Currency?
……..(17) Partnerships
….(B) WEF Great Reset
……..(1) G-7 Build Back Better
…………(a) US Build Back Better
…………….(i) Destruction to make way for BBB
…………….(ii) Bernie Sanders’ Progressive Priorities
……..(2) Population Control
…………(a) Digital Currency
….(C) Soros Open Society Foundations
….(D) Israel fighting for domination or survival?
One more to add:
(III) Restore and Make the Old Format for Life Functional Again
….(A) MAGA
I am trying to gain a vision of the primary and secondary agendas. Does anyone have any to add, promote, or rearrange?
My 2 cents is that China will get to dictate the new format for life, and I have my suspicions that they may have had a significant input on the 2030 Agenda.
(I) China being the Center of the World
….(A) The Belt and Road Initiative
……..(1) Saudi Arabia Vision 2030 (straddling the fence, and making a showing for money and power)
….(B) BRICS
……..(1) Make Russia Great again
……..(2) Iran to control the ME
(II) The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development
….(A) The 17 Goals
……..(1) End poverty in all its forms everywhere
……..(2) End hunger, food security, improved nutrition, and promote sustainable agriculture
……..(3) Good Health and Well-Being
…………(a) WHO
…………(b) GACI
……..(4) Quality Education
……..(5) Gender Equality
……..(6) Clean Water and Sanitation
……..(7) Affordable and Clean Energy
……..(8) Decent Work and Economic Growth
……..(9) Industry, Innovation, and Infrastructure
……..(10) Reduced Inequalities
……..(11) Sustainable Cities and Communities
……..(12) Responsible Consumption and Production
……..(13) Climate Action
……..(14) Life Below Water
……..(15) Life on Land
……..(16) Peace, Justice and Strong Institutions
…………(a) Digital Currency?
……..(17) Partnerships
….(B) WEF Great Reset
……..(1) G-7 Build Back Better
…………(a) “Joe Biden’s” Build Back Better
…………….(i) Destruction to make way for BBB
…………….(ii) Bernie Sanders’ Progressive Priorities
……..(2) Corporate Power Grab
…………(a) Pfizer/Moderna/AZ/J&J
……..(3) Population Conditioning and Control
…………(a) Fauci
…………(b) Digital ID and Currency
…………(c) 5G Advanced or 5.5G Networks
…………(d) 15 Minute Cities
……..(4) “All Nations must Participate”
…………(a) Hence the war in Ukraine
….(C) Soros Open Society Foundations
……..(1) Open Borders
……..(2) Destruction of Law and Order
….(D) Gates Foundation
……..(1) Population Reduction
….(E) Israel fighting for domination or survival?
……..(1) “Joe Biden” / the UN wanting to keep a foothold in the ME in case a country like Iran does not embrace their 2030 Agenda
(III) Restore and Make the Old Format for Life Functional Again
….(A) MAGA
Speaking of the Khoisan people..
When you happen to fall into deep meditation and travel astrally to the home or homes of your genetic memories where do you go?
I always find myself going back home to Tenerife and Hokkaido.
One day this will all be uploaded into the cloud, no need to ever leave the comfort of your bedroom again. Just vegge out and the computer will take you there, mind, body, and soul.
Doubtless you were one of the red haired Cro-Magnons on Tenerife or the proto-Caucasians or Ainus of Ancient Japan. Their last stand was on Hokkaido.
This all comes full circle. I am glad to have finished reading “Guns, Germs, and Steel” just last weekend. It was very interesting and thought provoking.
Glad you got something from it.
Indeed, one of the points I found interesting was that of the continental axes, Asia-Europe being east-west, Africa and the Americas being north-south. Seems so obvious when you think of travel and trade taking place easier along the same length of latitude, but who ever really thinks of this?
Yes, lots of underappreciated, common-sense historical principles and mechanisms described in that one.
And I think the Ainu were among the different people who crossed the Bering Strait a long time ago too
Pope Calls For New Theological Approach me; Oh no!
November 2, 2023 by sd
From Catholic News Agency:
Pope Francis wrote that Catholic theology must experience a “courageous cultural revolution” in order to become a “fundamentally contextual theology.” Guided by Christ’s incarnation into time and space, this approach to theology must be capable of reading and interpreting “the Gospel in the conditions in which men and women live daily, in different geographical, social, and cultural environments,” the pope wrote.
The pope contrasted this approach with a theology that is limited to “abstractly re-proposing formulas and schemes from the past” and repeated his long-standing criticism of “desk bound theology.” Instead, he emphasized that theological studies must be open to the world, not as a “‘tactical’ attitude” but as a profound “turning point” in their method, which he said must be “inductive.”
Geez, this is absolute trash. The Pope is just as deplorable as all other NWO agents. I am pretty sure he derives his power directly from Satan.
Just bought St Pius the 10th Catechism, known for its brevity, depth, and clarity. Going to buy Bishop Athanasius Schneider’s new catechism, “Credo” or I believe.
It would be a fine idea for you to get at least one of these. John Paul’s catechism is ok and easily found in used bookstores, but it too liberal and modern. But better than nothing!
Jarek,
I am impressed with your literary choices. I cannot, however, follow your advice, as immolation would be the direct result of my handling one of those texts.
…And I mean that in the temporal sense.
He wants a living Catechism, one that changes with degenerating human culture. We need one that is safely dead. Life not life! As Thoreau said, read not Times but the Eternities.
Those who, from the start, are the unfortunate, the downtrodden, the broken – these are the ones, the weakest, who most undermine life amongst men, who introduce the deadliest poison and scepticism into our trust in life, in man, in ourselves. Where can we escape the surreptitious glance imparting a deep sadness, the backward glance of the born misfit revealing how such a man communes with himself, – that glance which is a sigh. ‘If only I were some other person!’ is what this glance sighs: ‘but there’s no hope of that. I am who I am: how could I get away from myself ? And oh – I’m fed up with myself!’ . . . In such a soil of self-contempt, such a veritable swamp, every kind of weed and poisonous plant grows, all of them so small, hidden, dissembling and sugary. Here, the worms of revenge and rancour teem all round; here, the air stinks of things unrevealed and unconfessed; here, the web of the most wicked conspiracy is continually being spun, – the conspiracy of those who suffer against those who are successful and victorious, here, the sight of the victorious man is hated. And what mendacity to avoid admitting this hatred as hatred! What expenditure of big words and gestures, what an art of ‘righteous’ slander! These failures: what noble eloquence flows from their lips! How much sugared, slimy, humble humility swims in their eyes! What do they really want? At any rate, to represent justice, love, wisdom, superiority, that is the ambition of these who are ‘the lowest’, these sick people! And how skilful such an ambition makes them! In particular, we have to admire the counterfeiter’s skill with which the stamp of virtue, the ding-a-ling golden ring of virtue is now imitated. They have taken out a lease on virtue to keep it just for themselves, these weak and incurably sick people, there is no doubt about it: ‘Only we are good and just’ is what they say, ‘only we are the homines bonæ voluntatis’. They promenade in our midst like living reproaches, like warnings to us, – as though health, success, strength, pride and the feeling of power were in themselves depravities for which penance, bitter penance will one day be exacted: oh, how ready they themselves are, in the last resort, to make others penitent, how they thirst to be hangmen! Amongst them we find plenty of vengeance-seekers disguised as judges, with the word justice continually in their mouth like poisonous spittle, pursing their lips and always at the ready to spit at anybody who does not look discontented and who cheerfully goes his own way. Among their number there is no lack of that most disgusting type of dandy, the lying freaks who want to impersonate ‘beautiful souls’ and put their wrecked sensuality on the market, swaddled in verses and other nappies, as ‘purity of the heart’: the type of moral onanists and ‘self-gratifiers.’ The will of the sick to appear superior in any way, their instinct for secret paths, which lead to tyranny over the healthy, – where can it not be found, this will to power of precisely the weakest!”
? Friedrich Nietzsche
Well, they’re right: The healthy will be laid low. the beauty of the Beautiful will pass and the intelligent may babble one day. When Emerson didn’t make sense any more, he stopped talking but kept smiling. He had done the same years earlier when his mind became a fallow field. It recovered and he began to talk and write again. The last time it didn’t – of course. There’s always going to be a last time.
But Nietzsche is right too. The ugly were never beautiful – does that make them better? More inwardly beautiful – sometimes, but seldom. Often the opposite as he says.
The Aristocrats should be humble, but not ashamed of their gifts. By all means show them but remember from whence they come and back to whom or what they go. And the egalitarians should be humble too, whether they have any gifts or not. By all means make your demands for fairness. But more than that – No.
Both impulses must be in any society to make it at least viable and beyond that, good.
If we all judged balance versus imbalance accurately, we would all be better-off.
“By all means make your demands for fairness. But more than that – No. ”
The existing format for life is a flawed game.
One can argue that it is a game, because people are preprogrammed to game the system, and do so on a daily basis.
To comprehend flawed, one only needs to contemplate the meaning of generational wealth, whether it is applied to an individual, family, group, city society, Nation, etc.. Generational wealth powers disparity to the point of failure. This is what the world is dealing with at this moment in time.
“Both impulses must be in any society to make it at least viable and beyond that, good.”
A Great Reset would seem to be the ultimate answer, but as your post points out, making everyone equal and getting back to ground zero does not fit with human nature. So, I suppose that we can look at history to determine how the future will play out.
And, for those that don’t believe in human nature, “the early bird gets the worm”.
“The mediocre alone have the prospect of continuing on and propagating themselves — they are the men of the future, the sole survivors; ‘be like them! become mediocre!’ is henceforth the only morality that has any meaning left, that still finds ears to hear it. But it is difficult to preach, this morality of mediocrity — for it can never admit what it is and what it wants! it has to speak of moderation and dignity and duty and love of one’s neighbour — it will scarcely be able to conceal its irony!”
— Nietzsche, from Beyond Good and Evil
Nice little anti-natalist spice and dig from Nietsch.
Tone is very important when reading Nietzsche. He’s often slyly ironic and transparently hyperbolic.
He raged against the dull and mediocre so much because he fervently desired the self-overcoming superior Man (cue up the screams of “Nazi!”). So — quite the opposite of an anti-natalist.
The dig at “mediocres” breeding, and probably at the middle class generally, has contemporary antinatalist energy.
I see.
My understanding is that anti-natalists hate humans and want them gone by way of zero babies. But you probably know more about the movement than me.
Yeah, they probably do.
It’s a bit of a low-IQ contemporary “goth” type idea-set for sad suburban young people, but with some quality criticisms of a kind of “mindless breeder paradigm,” in my opinion.
If the only problem was mediocre people, we would be okay.
We are dealing with sub-mediocre people becoming the majority in this country. Like South Africa, when that happens, the results are inevitable.
I take it as an exhortation to know your place
Last night I watched a movie titled Whiplash on Netflix that originally came out in 2014. It starred J. K. Simmons who has acted in numerous movies and shows and even commercials.
If I had a vote I would have given him a best actor Oscar. The story is about an elite music school where Simmons’s character is an evil, tyrannical, viscous bully, who conducts the schools jazz band.
I was reminded of two bosses I had during my lifetime career in the field of finance/bean counting. As bad as those two bosses were they couldn’t hold a candle to the evilness of Simmons character.
If you have access to Netflix this movie Whiplash is a must see.
I hope they stuffed him head-first into a tuba.
Wow, so funny you should mention this. I just happened to watch this for the first time last week as well! Great minds really do think alike. I was spurred to watch it when I saw the trailer advertised in another film I was watching. I very rarely waste time watching the trailers, but in this case it paid off.
I did find it interesting that even after filing his report against the teacher, the student went back to join the new band his former teacher had formed. Then it was almost like the student overcame his nearly getting screwed over, by showing how good he really was musically, being able to play a song by ear.
Very sad when he reconsidered his relationship with that girl and she had already moved on.
Pushing people to strive for excellence is one thing. When you take it a step too far it can border on abuse.
Anyway, I highly recommend it to all readers here too.
Great movie!
Q,
My wife, who played first Cello in her school orchestra, had a very demanding conductor. She would not even watch the movie, having learned what it was about. Repeated requests failed.
I thought it was a great movie.
What really freaked me out was how GREAT an actor J. K. Simmons is.
Q,
He played prominently in the HBO series “OZ”.
Russia’s Wagner Group Plans to Send Air Defenses to Hezbollah, U.S. Says
Lebanese militant group could potentially create a second front against Israel
“Wagner Group, the Russian paramilitary organization, plans to provide an air-defense system to Hezbollah…
The Russian SA-22 system they plan to send uses antiaircraft missiles and air-defense guns to intercept aircraft…” ~ Wall Street Journal
wow, well that changes things
Heirs Apparent
Looks that way and of course things are changing all the time. Even before this, they landed ~20 000 troops in the Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia, apparently.
Not just ‘BRICS’. but Yemen’s military beyond the Houthis are now involved as well, apparently.
BRICS++ in action. See SSL, they are talking and acting militarily.
May not have been you, SSL, if not sorry. Some one stated that BRICS++ is non military.
Tomato tomahto.
G7 and G20 are non-military while the very same countries in NATO is one of the biggest militaries on earth.
BRICS is an economic alliance but, of course, among geo-political allies.
Economic first, but banding together militarily is beginning. These guys are only a couple of years old, it is just starting.
Ha! Putin does it again. If you have a group that has rebelled against you like the Wagner Group, cut off its head, and point it in another direction.
Putin vs. Biden. HAhahahahahahaha!
Iran-Russia set a western trap in Palestine
“There are no illusions in Moscow. The intel apparatus knows well that Israeli Mossad agents have been advising Kiev while Tel Aviv was supplying weapons to Ukraine under serious US pressure. That infuriated the siloviki, and may have constituted a fatal Israeli mistake.” ~ Pepe Escobar, The Cradle
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Israel has no right to self-defense as an occupying state: Russia
Moscow’s UN envoy blasted western states for allowing the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza using the argument that Israel has a right to defend itself
“The 2004 International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruling decreed that Israel, as ‘an occupying power’, had no right under international law to build a separation wall in occupied Jerusalem. However, as with their usual approach, Tel Aviv ignored the ruling.
Despite Israel’s attempts to ignore international law, many prominent organizations and international bodies — including the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, the UN General Assembly (UNGA), the European Union (EU), the African Union (AU), the International Criminal Court (ICC), Amnesty International (AI), and Human Rights Watch (HRW)— all argue that Israel has occupied Palestinian territories, including Gaza, since 1967…
Since the start of Israel’s ethnic cleansing campaign in Gaza on 7 October, about 8,800 Palestinians have been killed, including 3,648 children and 2,290 women.” ~ The Cradle, News Desk
What is going on behind the scenes? Now multiple New Jersey Democrats have been criminally charged with ballot fraud from the 2020 election!!
Is OG right that there are white hats doing stuff behind the scenes? Why is this all happening now after all this time?
I am imagining white paper hats that are folded like paper boats.
You shouldn’t, Gus. White hats are cowboy hats. Silent movie-era Hollywood Westerns put the good guys in white hats and the bad guys in black hats so that they could be easily and quickly differentiated and identified by their very unsophisticated audiences.
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President Trump said that, ‘We will take our country back from the crooked Biden Administration is less than five months.’
I believe him.
Oh okay.
We’ve got the good guys and the bad guys but what role do the ugly guys play.
(Just wanted to reference The Good, the Bad and fhe Ugly for no particular reason.)
I do not.
I am a Trumper because he is the only swamp drainer that has declared himself thus.
He has no help, even the GOP in DC are Deep Staters, when he looks for help, they are all drawing a knife and stabbing him in the back when he starts to drain the swamp.
He does not stand a chance, but voting for that SOB in the White House with his kill America themes is unthinkable.
The USA is a dead institution, confined to its wheelchair by an anti-people Deep State and a really messed up gimme population.
Think, where is creativity happening now, where are new ideas being generated, where are investments in infrastructure for the people being made. I was appalled at the difference in Europe while visiting there and also or the difference between China and Japan with the railway systems.
It is just about over for the Norte Americanos, I am afraid, 2024 is critical both in the White House and Congress to get people in there whose platform, like Trumps, is to clean house in that swamp. Another election like 2022 may be the final nail in the coffin.
And Canada will follow us off the cliff.
And Canada will follow us off the cliff.
I agree that we are in this together, JAZ. Canada will always be the USA’s little brother. Literal hewers of wood and provider of comedians.
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You called me an anti-Semite, JAZ. You had best explain yourself of apologize toute suite as I am no such thing. Thus, that is Hate Speech, JAZ.
Hey, New Jersey just stopped construction of its off shore wind farms, the numbers just o not match up.
Awwww!! Some wise people there in NJ. The announcer, Watters, made the statement that the Dems will just try to spend more damn money to force them to build them.. other New England states are following suit.
Biden can shove this up his kazoo.
True story, folks.
World Series. Game 5
Diamondbacks pitcher has thrown a perfect game thru 6 innings. Gallen.
One sin that should not be done is for the team or the broadcasters to talk about a potential no hitter. It is considered to be a jinx on the pitcher.
No kidding, Gallen came out in the seventh and down on the right side of the screen the statement was put, Gallen is perfect through six innings, a huge faux pas. The very next pitch was a single followed by a double which scored the first run that broke down the Diamondbacks and won the game for the Rangers.
Wonder if the Fox crew were rooting for Texas?
The same is true for a goalie with a shutout in hockey. True hockey people never say the word, “shutout” with time still on the clock.
Worser and worser.
Newsmax (a site you can trust) is currently running an article stating that Hamas fighters took babies and baked them in an oven!!
https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/israeli-volunteer-hamas/2023/11/02/id/1140779/
I do not believe this account any more than I do of Jews drinking the blood of Christian infants*
*I mean on a regular basis….
Coincidentally, I just posted this in part under one of your other comments upthread:
“Your comments– and congrats by the way– add nicely to the idiocy of the threads.”
Zaz,
Idiocy, in the defense of truth, is no vice.
I think Emma Goldwater said that.
You could look it up…
Well really, what did you expect. They’re not Tartars.
Well criminy, everyone knows that babies are an excellent source of high quality protein as well as being very low in carbs for those watching their waistline. Those in the know say that a covered roasting pan with a basting rack is the way to go, though. Preserves all the succulent juices and tenderizes the meat. Melt in your mouth goodness!
Jjimmy,
Yes, and like a baked turkey, you must position it breast-up if you want a juicy bird.
@ef
I didn’t believe they beheaded babies or ripped the babies from their mother wombs either but there are actual videos of such if one is disturbed enough to look around for them. They even used the victims phones to record these events on their victim’s social media.
If one can cut the head of a baby off or bash its skull into a rock it’s not a far stretch to put it in an oven and roast it.
Not to eat but for the shock value of the still alive mother as she is being gang raped hearing her baby being roasted alive.
Another favorite of dark age Muslims was to kindle a small fire under their victims and slowly roast them to death.
Robert Spencer has a website dedicated to remembering the glories of Islamic conquest. /sarcasm off
Benr,
Well, I don’t doubt the videos exist, but I continue to question ANYTHING on the Internets that I read, see, or hear.
A very interesting 12 minutes covering the Beatles’ final song, Now and Then.
youtu.be/APJAQoSCwuA
Video reveals that shocking number of CDC officials who pushed COVID death jabs are JEWS with dual Israeli-American citizenship
naturalnews.com/2023-11-02-cdc-officials-covid-vaccines-jews-dual-citizenship-israel.html
Despite representing just 0.2 percent of the current global population, Jews overwhelmingly hold many of the top seats in American government, including at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
At a recent Marathon County (Wisconsin) Health & Human Services Committee Meeting, a local citizen listed off all the Jewish-held seats at the CDC who played an instrumental role in unleashing the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) “pandemic” on the world.
“The director of the CDC was Rochelle Walensky, dual citizenship with Israel – she’s a Jew,” the man states – Walensky’s husband is also corrupt, by the way.
“The deputy director of the CDC, Anne Schuchat, dual citizenship with Israel, Jew. CDC chief of staff Sherri Berger, dual citizenship with Israel, Jew. CDC chief medical officer Mitchell Wolfe, dual citizenship with Israel, Jew. CDC director of the Washington office Jeff Reczek, dual citizenship with Israel, Jew. COVID czar Jeff Zients, dual citizenship with Israel, Jew.”
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This the same presentation that I pointed to earlier but this video is better (no Tic Tok flashing graphics all over it).
The man lists 16 people who brought us Covid & the Jabs. Not surprisingly, there are no Palis in the entire bunch.
Let’s be careful, OG. Myself included. We can walk such a fine line that it can’t be reeled in again before it’s too late.
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“Dehumanization is the denial of full humanity in others along with the cruelty and suffering that accompany it. A practical definition refers to it as the viewing and the treatment of other people as though they lack the mental capacities that are commonly attributed to human beings. In this definition, every act or thought that regards a person as “less than” human is dehumanization.
Dehumanization is one form of incitement to genocide.[6] It has also been used to justify war, judicial and extrajudicial killing, slavery, the confiscation of property, denial of suffrage and other rights, and to attack enemies or political opponents.” ~ Wikipedia
I’ve no doubt that all 8,000,000,000 of us are human, Zaz, while I also raise flags about the motives and allegiances of the particular 16 humans mentioned in this man’s presentation in Marathon County, Wisconsin.
OG
Think about this.
The US founding fathers realized that a state run by an individual is only as strong as that one person. This is a fact and the number one weakness of a dictatorship or oligarchy. The Congress is supposed to be the font of knowledge for our government. Yeah, right!?!
Having less than 20 people making all the decisions for the world is one extremely dangerous situation. Just like what the Deep State is driving the US towards in their race towards autocratic socialism. Canada is doing the same thing with Trudeau, Biden’s mob’s younger brother.
The idea that one man, Fauci, drove the entire Covid reaction and may have had a part to do with its initiation sends chills down my spine. The exercise that Obama started, setting up one man czars to run everything is a.disaster. Situations like John Kerry result with his idiocy running climate change reaction and our Iran relations.
One man rules was proved to be disastrous long ago and ere we go again, a bunch of power hungry nincompoops saying, “We know it has never worked before, but we know what to do to make it work.”
A setting for future disaster.
You saw the comparison I did earlier of Jewish vs. Pali Nobel prizes and how much influence the Jews have had on medicine.
I wonder why?
John,
Why? Probably has to do with the intellect to finish Medical School and the cultural drive to put them there in the first place.
You know what? I wonder what the % of Jews are in the Biden Mob and the Deep State?
And why?
They are 2.4% of the US population.
I think Bankman-Fried should be offered a deal of zero jail time if he will submit to getting a quarter inch buzz cut.
Q,
Off what particular appendage should he be buzzed a full 1/4″. Rumor has it that he was “buzzed” soon after birth….
7:25am here on the prairies. A cup of tea and patiently awaiting JHK’s Friday essay. There is a lot going on. It promises to be a doozy.
Thoughts and prayers for the people of Palestine.
Notice all the MAGA hatted Christo-fascists in the “Gas the Jews” marches? Funny, I didn’t either!