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     The fog of war has never been so dense, what with the years-long sustained psy-ops of the US Intel “Community” against the American people . . . the lawfare operations of the Democratic Party against innocent patriots. . . the homicidal depredations of the pharma-government complex . . . the Cultural Marxists’ weaponization of language against common sense and common decency . . . the Neocon warhawks’ serial failed crusades to control faraway lands of dubious national interest . . .and the relentless mendacity of the sell-out Big Media. . .

     It’s a wonder that anybody might venture a coherent thought, or that such a thought might survive transmission from person to person intact, without a sadistic beat-down or a dishonest, tactical inversion of meaning along the way. A thought such as: the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel. This is now up for debate around the world, whereas it had been accepted as self-evident by many civilized states a few weeks ago.

     The military pundit Scott Ritter acted out a spectacular mental melt-down on video the other day. Among the statements he made were: “We need the Israeli army to be destroyed, to suffer defeat” . . . “Israel is the greatest threat to peace in the world” . . . “Political Zionism is a rabid dog and must be killed” . . . “I’m glad Hamas is winning” . . .

    It’s far from clear what Scott’s definition of Zionism is, but Dictionary.com says: “a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel and that now supports the state of Israel as a Jewish homeland.” That’s pretty standard across many dictionaries. So, is Scott Ritter calling for the cancellation of Israel? Sounds like it, a little bit. He’s not alone. That has been the dream of most of Islam in the region for seventy-five years. Now, a great multi-nation jihad rises to expel what the Iranians like to call “the Zionist Entity,” as if it were some scaley thing that slithered out of a UFO. Even the American Ivy League is rooting to drive Israel into the sea.

     Among the reasons Scott Ritter reviles the Israelis is that they are too weak and incompetent to defend themselves. Their stand-by army of reservists, he says, are too soft and flabby to hump a standard-issue soldier’s kit into a war-zone — and Gaza is the worst sort of urban war-zone. They’ll fall down and have heart attacks the first time they try to run a hundred yards (which could be true, considering Israel’s 90 percent Covid vaxx uptake and the likely resulting non-symptomatic myocarditis present in young men there). Israeli intel sucks, he says. Israel’s sense of superiority, their notion of being the chosen people, must be smashed.  Israeli soldiers should go into Gaza and be shot to pieces, he advises. Scott’s intemperance is… something to behold.

     Three weeks ago, the Middle East was on the verge of putting through the Abraham Accords that would have “normalized” relations between Israel and several states of the Arabian Peninsula, exchanges of ambassadors, openings to trade and such. Other Islamic nations in North Africa were expected to join anon. And just before the October 7 Hamas attack, Saudi Arabia was about to hold normalization talks with Israel. That’s all out the window.

     Scott Ritter’s proposed initiative goes like this: Call a cease-fire and halt the bombing of Gaza. Israel must commence direct face-to-face negotiations with Hamas — no intermediaries! — for the exchange of hostages and prisoners and to begin groundwork toward a two-state solution, that is, the creation of a Palestinian state alongside Israel. For decades, that two state solution has been hung up on two sharp thorns.

     One is the practical question of where that Palestinian State would be. The common idea is that it would be the disputed zone called the West Bank (of the Jordan River) plus Gaza. The West Bank was occupied by Israel in the aftermath of the 1967 Six Day War, as was the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights on Israel’s northern border with Syria. Israel eventually returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in 1982, and Israel ended its occupation of the Gaza Strip in 2005. Gaza has been self-governing since, with internal conflict between its Hamas and Fatah factions. Gaza has been used as a launching site for rocket attacks in Israel ever since, regularly upending attempts to negotiate a lasting peace. Israel, on the other hand, has installed over 600,000 settlers in the West Bank, said to be in violation of international agreements.

     The second thorn that hangs up any plausible peace is the Palestinians’ overt declarations in the Hamas charter, for instance, that Israel has no right to exist and must be destroyed. Iran, too, has for years notoriously declared its intention to “wipe Israel off the map.” That is hardly a viable pre-condition for settling this long quarrel. “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” goes the chant. Notice that the Islamic nations surrounding Israel refuse to admit any Palestinian settlers. Egypt, Jordan, Syria will not take them. Why is that? I’ll tell you: because they understand that the bellicose, fractious Palestinians will bring them trouble.

    Western Civ, weakened, broke, and mind-fucked, now faces a fast-unifying multi-nation Jihad that looks more and more like World War Three. The pressure is on for Israel to re-think its furious response to the savage attacks of October 7. Yet, the threat to its survival has never been so stark. There is little appetite for the US to get involved, though reports out of the war fog indicate that there might be as many as 5,000 US soldiers already inserted into the Gaza campaign alongside IDF soldiers. We have plenty of reason to worry that US towns and cities could be the next target, since no one really knows how many Jihadis have crossed into our country from Mexico under “Joe Biden’s” wide-open border policy. What a moment to be leaderless!

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1,161 Responses to “Jihad, by God!”

  1. lizharmon October 30, 2023 at 9:33 am #

    It’s kind of funny to watch Gen Z flip flop on war now that the draft is on the table. No more standing with Ukraine! Or anyone else! As if these gender confused little boys and girls who aren’t sure of which bathroom to use could defend anyone.

    • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:17 am #

      Yes. A draft would definitely focus some young minds.

      I can only imagine their looks of horror the first time they got off the bus at the reception center and heard those fateful words: “Form up ladies, you’re in the Army now, buttercups!”

      • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2023 at 10:43 am #

        The thing is, a good number of them will be ladies, or men dressed as ladies.

        The first words I heard when I got off the bus were “Welcome to hell, maggots”.

        • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:54 am #

          LOL! Those were the days, weren’t they? The stories I could tell…

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

          Yes, it was a terror initiation. You were broken down and built up in a new image, with a new self image or inner understanding. Better? That depends, right? On what you were before or could have become. Some guys are able to keep their moral center or get it back afterwards. For some, submission to the State (for some that means the military or the State at that time) is all they have left.

          Jimmy seems to have thrown it off, but you never have. Or perhaps your family was like this to begin with so there was no conflict.

          But yes, sometimes the result is miraculous. A surly young thug enters and six months later returns as a gentleman with wonderful posture.

      • pyrrhus October 30, 2023 at 6:28 pm #

        A draft would cause an explosion in the US, and neither the public nor the Pentagon is equipped to handle that possibility..Would it include young women, given that most young men are unfit? Too many issues would pop up…

    • liber8tor October 30, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

      True that.

      And Sam Brinton, a non-binary Biden administration nuclear waste official, is out of jail after being caught on video stealing airport luggage containing jewelry, makeup and Louis Vuitton handbags.

      The Blob SOP doesn’t have a warm-fuzzy feeling.

    • Delcimore October 30, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

      How is it that in 1967 and 1973, Israel overcame invasions by multiple neighboring nation-states and drove to victory in a matter of days, but now all the talk is of a long war to take out Hamas.
      Hamas must have some serious mojo going on!

      • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 8:19 pm #

        Hamas is sheltered in a sea of civilians.

    • Prospero October 30, 2023 at 4:53 pm #

      Drafting the current confused generation of multi-vaccinated, obese men (and maybe women?) would create military forces incapable of fulfilling their wartime duties.

      However, many of the young men in the current illegal alien invasion seem healthy and they are not required to be injected with experimental gene modification drugs. Offering them US citizenship, combined with generous financial benefits, in exchange for their military enlistment might provide a solution to the problem.

      • Grandpa November 1, 2023 at 11:44 pm #

        …”offering them U.S. citizenship…” Sure, and training them, and equipping them with weapons…
        You are out of your damn mind

        • Uncle Bob November 3, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

          The Romans did that. It worked, for awhile.

    • rudyspeaks October 31, 2023 at 11:28 am #

      Perspective, as you read these posts: I posted a respectful,well-reasoned comment… no racism, obscenity or ad hominems. For 2 days it was marked “pending” but, today, was gone. That this is censorship, of the most obvious type, is unarguable. What is very sad is the desperation that required it. Don’t bring up a subject, Jim, if you haven’t got the chops to defend it.

      • Paula D October 31, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

        Did you post a link? That happens when you forget to take out the www.

        Nothing personal, it’s just WordPress.

    • TravisB November 1, 2023 at 11:28 am #

      Not too sound heartless. I die inside every time I see a child hurt, and every time I see the horrors of war.
      That said;

      I don’t care about Israel.
      I don’t care about Palestine.
      I don’t care about Ukraine.
      I don’t care about Iran.
      I don’t care about Russia.
      I could go on.
      However it seems the more “we” care, the worse shit gets.
      Maybe this is just self chosen distraction.
      Definitely easier to armchair quarterback conflicts on the other side of the planet than…ahem..cleaning your room

  2. Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 9:37 am #

    Looks like Jim has a new Zionist hobby horse to ride for a while. Congrats! It should put butts in the seats.

    There’s a real simple test for the idea that the Israeli’s are truly God’s “chosen people.” Withdraw all US support in the region lock stock and barrel ASAP and see how things go from there. Force “the poor Israeli’s” to either learn how to live with their neighbors peacefully or break out their nukes, which they stole the technology for from the US, and get the party started properly.

    I’m not going to get into again with your pro-Zionist crowd here, although seeing as you’ve got a country of your very own in Israel, I’m surprised you don’t put your money where your mouth is and just relocate there already. Wouldn’t that make you a whole lot happier?

    JW– If by “pro-Zionist” you mean Jews have a right to a homeland in Israel, well, yes, I’m on-board with that. Or do you mean something else? — JHKL Admin

    • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:11 am #

      I thought I stated it pretty clearly. No hidden agendas or veiled obnoxiousness on this end.

      The US involvement in all this is only aggravating it greatly, although I personally think that’s what’s driving the entire thing in the first place. This is first and foremost a US deep state operation to create another front for Russia and China both to deal with, now that Russia is taking control of the Ukraine situation.

      • TravisB November 1, 2023 at 11:34 am #

        Sometimes I think that the Brits plopping A Jewish homeland on top of people who already were there, will end up doing more harm to the Jewish people than Hitler could of even imagined.

        We are all trapped in Gaza..

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 7:55 pm #

          That’s quite possible.

        • Q. Shtik November 2, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

          could of even imagined. – Travis



    • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 10:16 am #

      Yes Jimmy. Personally, I find the the metamorphosis of our host. He was the secular (and PRESCIENT) prophet of doom in the Long Emergency.

      Then here on aptly-named CFN, he remains still very interesting and often illuminating. But he often peddles this false optimism about about how that US justice system will stop the globalist “DC blob”. It won’t, as it is part of the blob. But even if it did, that doesn’t address the millions of Americans living in the arid west, as water dwindles; or the “geography of nowhere” of a suburbia that is not viable without affordable oil.

      Apparently all that stuff only applies to non-Israelis though.

      And now, he’s going to pull a Cadillac. GM’s Cadillac, from inception up through the 1950s, and as late as the 1960s, was considered a proper car for rich people, because it was a superior car, like a Mercedes or a Rolls Royce.

      In the 1960s, GM started to let it go. Cadillac coasted on its past reputation for about 10-15 years, but then lost it. Today. One does not drive a Cadillac to show they have “arrived”.

      So, JHK has built a solid reputation over a lifetime, but he is going to let it slide, as he mostly echoes the talking points of the Israeli government, and glosses over the WORSE than Jim Crow, Israeli-version of apartheid the natives have been living under.

      For an astute reporter to overlook how ALL Israeli governments have used force or legalisms to constantly move the goal posts is disappointing.

      But there’s good news for JHK: it is my opinion that this time, Israel is going to change the landscape: they are going to clear Gaza of all Palestinians. This is why they are killing so many of them with indiscriminate bombing. And BTW, the IDF could have killed MANY more up to now. To compel them to leave. Those that don’t will be killed as terrorist accomplices.

      The US and Israel will find 3rd countries to take them. The US will pay a couple of billion in “aid” to bribe them. Just like the US bribed Egypt to make peace with Israel.

      But, if Israel is so great, fine. Let them go it alone. Why should the US, which JHK is the first to concede is broke, why should we send billions of tax dollars to Israel every year?

      If you love Israel, and like their version of the Final Solution, and live in the US, if Americans are free to contribute to both sides, then contribute.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

        Tucker the other night: You can talk all you like about loving America, but if you want to send a hundred billion dollars out of it, you are wrong.

        Or so he apparently said. Can’t find it. It’s been taken down.

      • AreC October 30, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

        “The US & Israel will find 3rd countries to take them.” You think? Apparently Nikki Haley thinks so too. She thinks they can come here. Now I’m trying to visualize millions of angry Palestinians roaming around the US looking for a chance to get even with their favorite ethnic group. Anyone who thinks that’s a viable plan doesn’t know how to think.

        • Izdubar October 31, 2023 at 1:02 am #

          There’s 255,000 here already.

      • benr October 30, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

        Another one sided write up.
        We will just ignore the FACT the freedom fighter groups (/sarcasm off) the US labels as terrorists ALSO treat the average people on the west bank, Gaza and Lebanon as human meat shields.
        The reality is they don’t care about average people they want the elimination of Israel at all costs regardless of what happens to everyone else living there including fellow Arabs and Muslims.
        Consider anyone now trying to flee the area are murdered by the freedom loving groups known as Hamas and Hezbollah.

        They have tipped their hands with rapes, beheadings, kidnappings, murders and general mayhem as to their ultimate goal this is not just on Jews but anyone unlucky enough to fall in their grasp. When it first started coming out I assumed it was just propaganda to stir the weak minded A LA the babies thrown from incubators in Iraq…but I have seen some of the videos yet another thing I can’t unsee from these barbarians.

        Hiding weapons among them, deploying weapons from crowded areas and literally places consider off limits under “normal” rules of engagement to conduct asymmetrical warfare on Israelis and anyone not supporting their causes.
        They are not just firing upon Israelis from trees and melting back into the forest they are firing upon them from crowded areas hospitals and then using the pallywood studios to disseminate at least as much propaganda as Israel is.

        Israel would have been better served to find Hamas and selectively target them but it is what it is so we are left with a final solution of sorts in reverse.

        • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

          I’m a realist. I’m just putting some needed balance.

          In a better world, the more moderate Israelis and Palestinians would have prevailed, we’d have some semblance of a two-state solution, and some how, miraculously, these “moderate leaders” on both sides would be able to contain anger whenever some one was killed, and work with the other to catch and imprison or kill the perpetrator. That’s a lot to ask, in this small patch of real estate called Palestine/Israel, where it’s a hard to separate the groups involved.

          I skimmed some excerpts of Hamas charter on sonar21.com

          Sounds like they probably want wipe Israel off the map, though there is a blurb about “Jerusalem, 1967…”

          I think that was the PLO’s position once. Eventually it changed, and the PLO accepted “Israel’s right to exist” and (I think) the Israeli government accepted that the Palestinians should have a “state”.

          Arafat the terrorist, whose PLO famously killed the Israeli athletes in Munich in 1972, not to mention dozens or hundreds of other less-famous Israelis the PLO killed, this Arafat fellow got a Nobel Peace Prize.

          Just like his (MUCH MORE successful) Jewish counterpart, Menachem Begin, whose Irgun blow up the King David Hotel and killed dozens or hundreds of innocent Palestinians.

          But after Oslo, Israel slowly started weaseling out–the “details” of the 2-state solution, and kept moving the goalposts…

          And, guess what else they did? To undercut the PLO (the predecessors of today’s Palestinian Authority in the West Bank), they mid-wifed the creation of…Hamas!

          Talk about blowback.

          Anyway, Israel’s actions over the past 30 years demonstrate that the Israeli governments feel the Palestinians are entitled to few rights and are second-class subjects. That is only slightly better than the stated position of Hamas vis-a-vis Israel.

          Israel marginalized the more moderate Palestinians, because they were not deferential enough.

          And now, Israel will use the totally predictable reaction which I think Netenyahu knew about (though perhaps not the MAGNITUDE of Oct 07), to pursue his final solution and remove all the Palestinians from Gaza–dead or alive (to 3rd countries).

          It’s Israel’s Pearl Harbor! Just like FDR withheld information that might have saved some of the 2500 American dead (who help reverse anti-war sentiment), Bibi was busy and let a few hundred Israelis get taken by surprise. But to Bibi’s surprise, it was BIGGER than a few hundred, if Israel is not lying about the 1400 dead.

          The bad blood this disproportionate bombing has already caused will give Israel the “excuse” it needs to do the same to the Palestinians in the West Bank, who are already living in little apartheid hamlets. Over a hundred have been killed in just the past three weeks.

          I think Israel will get away with it in the short run. But I don’t think the State of Israel will see a Centennial Independence Day.

          So, enjoy the ethnic cleansing to come, for the few years it will hold, as this crime will not go forgotten and unnoticed, just like Versailles did not go unnoticed.

    • Cavepainter October 30, 2023 at 10:17 am #

      Actually, Jimmy, the war is between Western Enlightenment represented by Israel opposed by 14th Century theocratic despotism represented by the Islamic nations who are responsible for whatever harm results from Israel upholding entitlement to modern democratic government and privileges thereof.

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:25 am #

        Western “Enlightenment?” Talk about ironic terms. Or is that an oxymoron?

        • Cavepainter October 30, 2023 at 10:45 am #

          Oh, so when Jimmy will you be traveling to aid your Islamic freedom fighters? Or, otherwise, maybe you’ll join one of the illegal entrant immigrant jihadist groups to conduct a cleansing here in our infidel US.

          • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:52 am #

            You first. The Zionists will be glad to have you.

          • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

            There’s only two side, right Cave? No third side or third parties? No American side, right? You’re either Zionist or Islamic.

            And you dare speak for our Culture?

      • rudyspeaks October 30, 2023 at 10:28 am #

        A complete miss! Israel is a Bronze Age tribe with a 2-tiered “justice” system like the US South had, based on whom your parents were (white or black, Jewish or goyim). It is the exact OPPOSITE of Enlightenment Philosophy, premised on politically-equal individuals.

        • D from OR October 30, 2023 at 11:08 am #

          Completely agree.

          • AreC October 30, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

            Me too.

        • Bilejones October 30, 2023 at 11:19 am #

          Every people have their myths and legends, Jews among them. The issue is that a politically powerful group of them believe it as fact. Given the vicious self entitlement in their myths, this is bad.
          What is calamitous is that they demand that the rest of the world go along with their bullshit.

          • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

            What bullsh#t, BJ? That the Jews have a Homeland on a little 8500 sq. mi. strip of land on the eastern edge of the Mediterranean? ~ The last outpost of Western Civilization before you cross into the squalid wasteland that is the old Ottoman Empire?

          • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

            When are we going to get a homeland, BRH? Do you think they care about that? Or have they been on the forefront of mass immigration all over the Western World?

            “Once we are through with it, the United States can dry and blow away.”


          • RD3 October 30, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

            Rhodesian and South African politicians were among the biggest supporters of the creation of Israel. Soon after, the Israelis began undermining the Rhodesian and South African governments and slandering them as racist, etc. Thanks, guys.

            Ethnostate for me, but not for thee.

        • tuco22 October 30, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

          You mean like it is now?

      • FGB3 October 31, 2023 at 1:28 am #

        That’s the late Leon Uris’ thesis.

    • JoshuaThompson October 30, 2023 at 10:58 am #

      People like Einstein, Feynman, Oppenheimer, Fermi (whose wife was Jewish), etc. “stole” the bomb? You’re so dumb you think Shirley Temple is a synagogue.

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 11:25 am #

        You do realize that all those people were Americans, or at least loyal to America at the time, don’t you? And at least one of them – Oppenheimer – immediately regretted inventing the damn thing. The fact that the Israeli’s used surreptitious black ops means to later acquire the US’s nuclear technologies – which they still don’t officially admit to having, mind you – is well documented. You pro-Zionists need to hire some better propagandists – Joshua. Now go outside and play.

      • benr October 30, 2023 at 3:03 pm #


        I had the same thought but JW appears to be the type that probably thinks the elder protocols of zion is historical fact.

        • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 4:28 pm #

          Actually, whole lot of people think its a fact. I’m non-committal so far, but I have to admit it sure fits world events to a T.

    • hortonz October 30, 2023 at 11:17 am #

      I was fooled by the pro-Palestinian propaganda too. I felt that Israel was unfairly targeting innocent Palestinians for extinction just to make space for more settlers. How wrong I was. Events of recent weeks have opened up my eyes to the fact that the events of October 7 were part of a larger well-organized pogrom funded and carried out by Jew-hating fanatics who could care less about the plight of Palestinians and don’t want any compromise when it comes to eliminating every last Jew and Christian from the middle east. Once Israel goes, you can bet the Christian minority in the middle east will be next, Don’t believe me? Just ask the millions of Christians who have been “ethnically cleansed from lands that they inhabited for centuries, It happened after World War Two when Arab nations expelled their Jewish minorities in retaliation for the establishment of Israel. And don’t talk about LGBTQ rights or religious freedom in the Islamic world. The only place they exist in the middle east is in Israel.

      • benr October 30, 2023 at 11:57 am #

        Lebanon anyone?
        Dhimmitude is no fun.

      • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

        fanatics who could care less about the plight of Palestinians – hortonz


        For the thousandth time, “could care less” does not equal “couldn’t care less.”

        • Nigel Tufnel October 30, 2023 at 7:57 pm #

          Maybe he meant it literally.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

        Yeah, it’s hard for Christians to live in a Muslim country. But it’s been the Israelis often stopping the Palestinian Christians from going to mass these last number of years.

        And they just blew up one of the oldest Churches.

      • cbeard October 30, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

        Specifically, lgbtq should not have special rights, which is what they seem to want, anywhere in the world. They already have the same rights in America as anyone else. Now they even have marriage and other legal rights that I don’t think they deserve. Currently, I am against any aid, military or monetary to either Palestine or Israel. Anyone who joins the U.S. military at this point in history is a fool. America is dead. It is close to the final convulsions. All due to our so called “leaders”, and the stupidity of its citizens.

      • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

        Syria has religious freedom still, including Christian communities that still speak Aramaic.

        The US has done their best for the last 13 years to destroy that, using jihadist terrorists.

        They were, and are, vicious beyond belief, but you don’t know about that, because the US supports them.

      • FGB3 October 31, 2023 at 1:31 am #

        It’s all one big Psy-Op by the Cabal. All these folks y’all keep talking about are tools of the Cabal. The Cabal wants to stir up things forever. War is Good for Them. They get everything they want from War. Everyone who is all flustered about this current situation in Palestine are suckers.

    • Groundhog October 30, 2023 at 11:50 am #

      There’s a simple solution to all this. It should be obvious to anyone visiting Rome as a tourist. Go visit the Arch of Titus, it’s a giant monument celebrating Rome’s victory over Israel and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. You can see in the carvings on the arch the columns of Roman soldiers taking away all the sacred objects of inestimable value out of the Jerusalem temple and hauling all that loot off to Rome. Things of value like a huge golden menorah. It was said a very long time ago that if a Jew wishes to “undo” his/her Jewishness then all they need do is walk under the Arch of Titus. That’s the equivalent of a Christian committing the unforgiveable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. Walk under that arch and Jehovah will be done with you – forever.

      So who should we really blame for this mess in the ME? Where does the buck stop? I’ll throw my ideas into this boiling pot of contending claims and blame Italy. The Italians are responsible for destroying Israel and scattering it to the four winds. Italy needs to be tried in an international court and must pay up and bear ultimate responsibility for the past crimes of the Roman Empire. The Arch of Titus has the proof etched in stone of Italy’s guilt in destroying Israel. Why shouldn’t Italy pay for it all? After all, we’re talking about reparations for black people here in the US. It’s time for all Italians to step up to the plate, admit their collective guilt in having done wrong to the Jews 2000 years ago. They should offer up the Italian state as a new homeland for either Jews or Palestinians, it cannot be both. Italians should be kicked out of a large part of Italy and then spend the rest of their lives as refugees in Germany, France, Sweden, or England.

      Ok. Let’s see if anyone takes this post seriously. But how is the crap I’ve just written any more crazy than what’s already happened?

      • Mac October 30, 2023 at 11:59 am #

        Uh, Italians are not Romans, who eventually reaped the whirlwind for their long history of conquest and confiscation.

      • FGB3 October 31, 2023 at 1:33 am #

        o who should we really blame for this mess in the ME? Where does the buck stop?

        The Cabal stupid. Italy? Come on! This thing is INTERNATIONAL.

        • Groundhog November 1, 2023 at 5:49 pm #

          “The Cabal”? Just exactly who are these Cabal guys? This sounds too much like “CHAOS” people on the ancient late 60’s show “Get Smart”. Right now we’re seeing various historical narratives being placed under great scrutiny everywhere and determinations are being made as to who the good guys were thousands of years ago. Who was it that deserved to lose their “homelands” and be driven out and who were the groups deemed to have been on the “right side” of a dispute over ownership of land and resources? Fundamentalist Christians will write that Palestine was originally filled with heathen devil worshippers and disciples of Baal. They’ll say that towns like Jericho were abominable cities and civilizations that God deemed worthy of destruction. Looking at history in this fashion brings gods and devils into the debates and leads the combatants into endless mazes of lost verbiage and crazy claims.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 7:59 pm #

            We owe reparations to the relatives of those who lived 1000 (give or take) years ago for their suffering!

    • Rowdypiglet October 30, 2023 at 11:54 am #

      ‘There’s a real simple test for the idea that the Israeli’s are truly God’s “chosen people.” ‘

      Jimmy Word, There’s a distinction to be made between believing that Israel has a right to exist and believing that the Israelis (or anyone else) are God’s chosen people. The two sometimes go together, but often not.

      The ME is vast, and Israel is minuscule by comparison. It seems reasonable to me that they should have this small place for themselves. At the very least, I don’t think it’s a reason to start WW3.

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

        Agreed. Hence, get the US imperialists the hell out of there and let things work themselves out. Both sides would need to make concessions, but first of all they need to be put on equal footing.

        • Cavepainter October 30, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

          Yeah Jimmy W., I guess you’re right; all the gains of Western cv should be forfeited in favor of 14th Century Islamic culture/social order. Excepting, of course, all the material advantages gained by Western modernity. List there too all the weaponry that should be exclusive to the Mullahs for enforcing Muslim law.

          • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

            Believe it or not, not everyone in the world is mesmerized by “the material advantages of western modernity.”

          • Groundhog November 1, 2023 at 4:46 pm #

            “all the material advantages gained by Western modernity” –

            These material advantages you speak of are made possible by basically two natural resources – oil and natural gas. Whether you like it or not, a 14th century Islamic culture is sitting and living on, and they manage and produce a large portion of the world’s oil supply. Take all that oil offline and this “Western modernity” will rapidly change into something resembling sub-Saharan Africa. Our entire hopeless and temporary culture depends on substances that are NOT renewable and can be taken away years ahead of the time of “running out”. This can happen easily due to political problems and not just resources simply running out. We’ve created an extremely weak, delusional. and dependent society with a firmly stamped expiration date on it. It seems most don’t care and prefer instead to pass away when trouble arrives. Not much of a plan – but I can understand why.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

        It’s too small for them. They intend to expand and are doing so.

        And even then, not all of them will live there.

    • Islander October 30, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

      There is a big difference between a “homeland” and a “state.”

      Much more self-education needed here. Even Balfour quite quickly understood this.

      I recommend Morris Jastrow’s
      Zionism and the future of Palestine; The fallacies and dangers of political Zionism (Macmillan 1919)
      He was Jewish, if that makes any difference. A great scholar of the Near East.

      Right here:

      • Groundhog November 1, 2023 at 4:58 pm #

        “There is a big difference between a “homeland” and a “state.”

        Dimitri Orlov recently published an essay about Israel, homelands, states, etc. He compares Jews and Gypsies. Both groups have the idea of ancient “homelands” they’d lost. The Gypsies seem more content with their particular situation with mythical “homelands”. Orlov writes:

        “Jews as an ethnic group are quite peaceful and rather nonviolent. They are basically literate, educated Gypsies. Like Gypsies, they are rarely found in high concentrations but are diffuse within a non-Jewish population, which they call “goyim” (whereas the Gypsies call non-Gypsies “gadje”). Also like Gypsies, they ingratiate themselves with the non-Jews by providing them with various services: the Gypsies concentrate on fortune-telling, musical performances and various sorts of manual labor, which they perform as work communes and for cash; the Jews, on the other hand, tend to be lawyers, doctors, dentists, bankers and so forth.

        The similarities between Jews and Gypsies don’t stop there. They both derive their ethnic identity via matrilineal descent: it doesn’t matter who the father is as long as the mother is Gypsy or Jewish. Both of these ethni are essentially nomadic (as are the Arabs): the Arab “beyt” and the Hebrew “beth”, often taken to mean “house”, actually means “tent”. And because of their peaceful, nonviolent nature, both frequently fall victim to repression and violence. When this happens, their response is the same: relocation, this being their main survival strategy in times of great duress.

        While the Gypsies were once a settled people in the north of India a mere millennium ago, the Jews haven’t had a place to call home (except for the Jewish Autonomous Region of the USSR and now the Russian Federation) for almost two whole millennia after being scattered to the four winds by the Romans. And while the Gypsies, being non-literate, have long lost all association with their distant homeland on the Indian subcontinent, the Jews, after the horrible experience of the Nazi Holocaust, in which both Gypsies and Jews suffered in equal measure, suddenly were filled with nationalist passion and irredentist fantasies and started to battle for a recolonization of Palestine.”

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 8:06 pm #

          Gypsies are now called Roma I think, unless they changed it back.

        • Islander November 2, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

          Re Orlov’s thesis:
          Definitely thought-provoking and worth more “excavation.”

          Although I don’t think all supposed similarities hold up to deeper scrutiny..

    • timt October 30, 2023 at 4:07 pm #

      A year from now when tens of thousands of INNOCENT children are mangled, murdered and orphaned …our host will channel MADalin Albright and harp….”Yes we think the price was worth it.”
      Yep history began on Oct 7th.
      There is a bigger picture at play here and most people are missing it including our illustrious host.

    • Anthea October 30, 2023 at 6:54 pm #

      You could just as easily say that Palestinians have a right to a homeland in Israel.

      I could say that I (and my relatives) have a right to Tara (I’d settle for the one in Gone with the Wind or the Hill of Tara in Ireland, either one) because I’m part Irish and probably related to one or more of the Kings of Tara of old. I can’t prove this, but I feel in my heart that this is so.

      If pressed, I’m willing to compose a song about it, and call it, “This Land is Mine.”

      • Islander November 2, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

        “If pressed, I’m willing to compose a song about it, and call it, “This Land is Mine.” ”

        I assume you know of the brilliant animation based on the song ‘This Land is mine, God Gave this Land to MEEEEEE.”

  3. RaymondR October 30, 2023 at 9:38 am #

    Welcome to the 4th Turning friends. It will all end in tears.

    • Dr. Coyote October 30, 2023 at 9:53 am #

      Yes indeedey, and a Happy 4th Turning to you too, RR. It seems that, after 15 years of churning, we’re finally entering the terminal kinetic phase. It could take another decade of this and worse, or through the magic of hypersonic thermonuclear missiles, all be over sometime later this afternoon.

      Anybody care to place bets on the timing?

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:06 am #

        Sooner would probably be better. The longer they wait, the more the mass death technologies develop and proliferate. Russia’s advantage in hypersonics won’t last forever, although US arms manufacturers would have to do a total about face and start producing shit that actually works vs. merely chasing “shareholder value” to ever catch up.

        • rudyspeaks October 30, 2023 at 10:22 am #

          Ha! We (the US) spend Russia’s ANNUAL war budget every month (more, actually)! Yet they have (game-changing) hypersonic missiles, can churn out 100s of thousands of artillery shells a month, and lead in Electronic Warfare (USS Donald Cook incident, Black Sea). Sooo, um…what, exactly has that $850 billion budget been buying? Eyes Wide Shut parties? We re not even allowed to conduct a successful AUDIT! Either p[arty offering a solution??

          • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 10:51 am #

            Rudy, I don’t think you’ve spent much time Washington DC. I mean the “area”, not the touristy parts.

            There are hundreds of thousands of highly-paid people–military officers, defense firm employees and even executives, highly paid GS/GM Federal employees.

            Did I mention highly paid “professionals”? Well, the moneys gotta come from someplace. It comes from the cost of our bally-hooed weapons.

            It’s always been like that. Now it’s worse than ever.

            Here’s a simple example: Vietnam. US soldier carried the “neat” M-16. The North Vietnamese Army got the “new AK-47”.

            Which one was better? They had Senate hearings about how much the M-16s jammed in combat, and the dead troops clutching jammed weapons. In the few engagements where the NVA “won”, they’d strip everything of use from the dead GIs: utility belts, grenades, helmets, boots–but they left the M-16s.

            The original Armalite AR-15, which is what the M-16 was based on, was an excellent weapon. “National Defense” by James Fallows has a whole chapter dedicated to how the US bureaucracy took an excellent weapon and f—ed it up.

            Now, over the decades, the M-16s iterations have improved, of course. Today’s M-16s are not the same that US soldiers used in the 1960s.

            That’s a metaphor. The USSR made weapons for killing, not profit. The US MIlitary Industrial Complex is racket–it makes weapons to MAKE money first.

            That’s why the US can’t help the Ukrainians even if it really wanted to (not that they deserve ANY help). Because US weapons are a “suite”. You need the whole “package”. Example, HIMARS missiles may be great on paper, but they are big and stand out to satellites or even aircraft. No air superiority mean they get taken out. Air superiority is another whole “suite”. See how the “synergism” works?

            If the US ramps things up with Iran (and I hope it does not), even if we don’t go to WW3, if the Iranians manage to knock out an aircraft carrier with a missile, and word gets out (or the carrier just can’t launch aircraft) that will be devastating to the US in terms of world prestige.

          • Bilejones October 30, 2023 at 11:24 am #

            The purpose of The Department of Defense is to defend real estate values in Northern Virginia and Southern Maryland.

          • OG October 30, 2023 at 11:48 am #

            Rich Men North of Richmond.

          • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

            Socrates give Eugene Stoner some credit. He was one of those mechanical geniuses America used to be full of, came up with the Armelite idea in his garage in an LA suburb.

          • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            So-Crates: Every nut and bolt costs ten dollars. Would you go to a hardware store that charged that much?

            What the name of that “new’ plane that sucks? It has cost tens of billions to develop, can’t run, can’t jump, can’t fight, can’t fuck.

            They spent so much, they couldn’t back out – even if it didn’t work. That doesn’t matter. What matters is the money.

          • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

            Here’s a list of the Top Ten “defense” contractors.

            Number four is Pfizer.


          • C.O.Jones October 30, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

            @rudyspeaks – OK, maybe you’re right but how inclusive are those barbarian Russians? Huh? I’ll bet they can’t even march in high heels! And they call themselves soldiers! We spend more accessorizing than those brutes do on bullets!

            Dr. Coyote – I will take the over on this. It’s going to drag on until 2030

          • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 5:07 pm #

            BRH, yes, Stone’s AR-15 was brilliant. Curtis LeMay loved it!

            But the US Army acquisition system “modified” the weapon to “meet Army standards” which made it prone to jamming.

            Which is why hundreds of GIs were killed in action in Vietnam–their guns jammed, in firefights.

            And a few years after I read the book, in the military, getting my M-16 training, well, I’ll be darned, but… my weapon jammed. On the range.

            “OMG, just like the book!”. National Defense by James Fallows. A whole chapter for the M-16!

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  5. Dr. Coyote October 30, 2023 at 9:46 am #

    Finishing line:
    >>What a moment to be leaderless!

    Leaderless, yes, and yet led by a shadowy uniparty cabal, right down the chute into WWIII. This is going to be a very long decade, first into the descent and bottoming-out of this nonsense, and then into the rebuilding phase. IF there can be a rebuilding, following the wars that seem to be on the horizon.

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    • draupnir October 30, 2023 at 11:12 am #

      And this time, I think part of it is going to be fought right here on our home soil.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

        Iran has promised us this. The open border is the guarantor.

        • cbeard October 30, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

          Yes, the open border insures that we will have some form of jihad in America. Things appear to be in dire straits, especially with a looming financial apocalypse.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 6:55 pm #

            State Governments’ Human Cattle

            State borders around their pens are artificial and, as such, can be diddled by their governments to affect the migration patterns their human cattle inside and out.

    • Groundhog November 2, 2023 at 2:13 pm #

      “IF there can be a rebuilding”………

      There most certainly will be a rebuilding, a great reset, whatever you wish to call it. It will be a return to the very same living conditions our forefathers enjoyed and experienced at least a century ago. It means a return to self sufficiency and practical and sustainable living. Most people won’t be able to make the transition due to lack of skills, poor health, drug addictions, mental disabilities, laziness. A lot of others will likely be shot during all the chaos that occurs when life returns to something resembling the 1930’s. My dad was a teenager in the 30’s and told me lots of stories about that decade that I didn’t want to hear about. It sounded very “uncool”, hot, miserable, and no fun at all. I never could figure out why he was telling me all that stuff – I was instead upset because our family car didn’t have a big V8 motor and was the economy model with a six cylinder engine. My dad thought that the best car ever made was a Ford model A and that’s all anyone ever needed. He was correct of course – but extremely uncool and not “with it”.

  6. DyersEve October 30, 2023 at 9:51 am #

    Have to chalk it up to Satanic influence that so many Westerners have lost their minds over Palestine and somehow have bought the narrative that Islam is somehow righteous and Israel somehow pure evil. In a sea of sand run by Islam how is it so unfair that Israel have a small slice of it? Jews were there before Islam was even a copycat thought of Judaism/Christianity. I’m not lionizing Jews – far from it. They created bad optics by being ruthless bankers in the West and captains of industry with apparently no moral compass whatsoever. But the Jewish PEOPLE have a right to that land. More than any other actor in this sorry play.

    • White German Shepherd October 30, 2023 at 10:36 am #

      You are incorrect. Read the Bible. Jews moved to Palestine and promised to live in peace with the people who were already there.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 11:43 am #

        I think the Jews get along pretty well with the Christians who were there before the present state of Israel existed.

        • Islander October 30, 2023 at 3:10 pm #

          Palestinian Christians, Muslims, and Jews got along fine before the Zionist settler colonists started arriving.

          It was Palestine then and it is still Palestine now.

    • Mac October 30, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

      Do individual immigrants to Israel have a legal right to land with a long-held deed held by individual Arabs? Tough question,

    • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

      And the Jewish PEOPLE will hate you if talk about their control of the media and banking. In other words, they identify with them. In other words, your distinction between the two is false, by and large.

      Some do admit it and regret it. And some hate what their people have done to the Palestinians.

    • Anthea October 30, 2023 at 7:18 pm #

      Your logic is a little faulty there. In a sea of sand run by Islam, shouldn’t I have a small slice of it? Shouldn’t Sub-Saharan Africans to have a small slice of It? Since China is overwhelmingly populated by Chinese, does that mean that blacks (or Swedes or Italians) should own “a small slice of it”–just to be fair?

      Why should the Jewish people have a right to that land? Why shouldn’t the Palestinians have a right to it? For that matter, why shouldn’t the Brazilians have a right to it? Or, if you’re looking for someone who’s suffered a whole lot (or claim they have) why not assert that the LGBT folks have a right to it? By their account, they’ve had it pretty tough. Shouldn’t they get a homeland where they can be free to be who they are without persecution?

      • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 8:24 pm #

        They have the western countries, led by the USA.

    • Groundhog November 1, 2023 at 5:07 pm #

      “Jewish PEOPLE have a right to that land. More than any other actor in this sorry play.”

      Using this logic the Native Americans were in North America and they owned this continent some 30,000 years before white Europeans showed up here. Therefore the natives deserve to have it all back. Indians owned this land for 28,0000 years longer than the Jews owned Palestine. So why aren’t we giving them their land back and why aren’t we all moving back to Europe – or maybe just putting bullets in our heads in order to make everything even and simple again.

  7. hustled enough October 30, 2023 at 9:54 am #

    Dear JHK Admin,
    It is funny to see Scott Ritter ideologically on the wrong end of two wars. Your understanding of the Palestinian-Israeli problem is a bit selective. Context matters. Gaza is akin to an outdoor prison, with movement heavily regulated into and out of it by Israelis and Egyptians. The inability of Gazan’s to leave the war zone or be supplied with basic necessities is not a bug of this war, but a feature. Netanyahu is widely seen in Israel as having his desire to pit Hamas against the PA to weaken it, as a major owner of this mess.

    Hustled — Maybe Gaza’s should not use their sovereign territory to launch rockets and barbaric ground attacks against their neighbors. They have made their own prison by behaving badly. — JHK-Admin

    I agree with you on one thing: The Israelis have always made clear that recognition of the state of Israel is a precondition for any productive talks. Hamas is not interested in it. Neither is Iran. So, until Hamas’ view changes, we are stuck with these cycles of war and revenge. Any two state solution requires partners who believe in each others’ right to exist. Pretty simple.

    As for Jewish settlements in the West Bank? Israel had settlements in Sinai. They dismantled them before the Egyptians came back. And the Egyptians came back because Egypt agreed to the basic idea that Israel had a right to exist peaceably with its Arab neighbours. Is Israel prepared to go back to pre-1967 borders to get the peace it wants? Will Hamas change? Or be overthrown?

    Each side will have to give something here.

    • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 10:59 am #

      Yes, the barbaric attacks were awful.

      But they’re hardly out of character. How exactly did the Irgun and Stern Gang, which were terrorist groups, “clear” Palestine of the indigenous Arabs in 1947/1948? The committed a few thousand atrocities, and the rest left.

      Also, as an investigative reporter, who reports facts the main media doesn’t, I’ve read that there is as chance the Palestinian insurgents/terrorists/fighters/guerillas/criminals may not have realized there was a “Rave fest” in the desert, and they got disoriented and distracted.

      Also, the “beheaded babies”. Did any Israeli official ever confirm that?

      What about the ongoing blockade of Gaza for the past 15 years? What about the killings of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank every day? What about the eviction of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank every day? What about them not being allowed to have water THREE days a week? What about Israelis taking their water, while some “settlers” have swimming pools?

      No, not a word about.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:12 pm #

        Well said. And this war was begun with an Israeli false flag. That can’t be forgotten.

      • Islander October 30, 2023 at 3:14 pm #


        For JHK, “history” began on Oct. 7.

        Not a day earlier.

      • hustled enough October 30, 2023 at 6:37 pm #

        Hi Socrates-Detroit,
        Benny Morris has an interesting history of Israel–“1948” which is a more nuanced approach than the common hagiography that is common looking at the birth of Israel’s nationhood and, with it, an analysis of the “harassment into flight” of Arabs who were in areas claimed by Israelis. The history of nations are not always derived morally and white-washing Israeli efforts (as self-defence) is not helpful.

      • Socrates-Detroit November 1, 2023 at 1:07 am #

        @hustled Thanks, good info.

        I re-read my 10:59, Oct 30, comment.

        Paragraph 2, about the “Rave”. It would have been interesting to see any comments or investigative reporting on whether Hamas deliberately planned to attack it, or whether the Rave was a short-notice party in the desert, and being a festive event with a lot of people, an unplanned target of opportunity.

        I read an interesting article which implied that the Hamas terrorists/killers/insurgent/fighters may not have known about the Rave party.

        My point being that, the Rave was the source of an inordinate number of casualties. Was that a pre-planned, deliberate target, or one of “opportunity”.

        I can’t find the link in sonar21 now.

        Like most people, despite the daily abuses suffered by the Palestinians, the killing of civilians is reprehensible and not justified. Ever. Regarding “justice”, my sense is most of these Hamas killers cannot return to Gaza and were or will be killed or caught.

        I also think bombing densely populated areas is reprehensible.

        To the extent that the Israeli is supposedly better than Hamas, then the Israeli bombs are even more reprehensible than the savage acts of Hamas. But the politicians who ordered the mass bombing will never be “caught”; and the pilots and crews will never be held to account for killing and maiming tens of thousands (so far).

        Not that that it matters now. No matter what the talking heads say, the ill well this has engendered on both sides, pretty much makes any settlement impossible. I think the Israelis will forcibly remove the surviving Palestinians (Nakba II).

        They’ll get their “pure Israel”. But in the long run, with having to worry about Palestinian captives being collateral damage, who knows what the next cycle of violence will bring to Israel–and the entire Middle East.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

          Energy, Projection Of Power & Israel In The Balance

          ” They’ll get their ‘pure Israel’.” ~ Socrates-Detroit

          Time will tell, but I imagine you’ve heard about the Iran-backed Houthis getting involved.

          There’re also some 10 or 20 thousand US troops that just popped down in KSA too, apparently. (Although KSA/MBS doesn’t appear too aligned with the US anymore, so unsure how that’s going to pan out. Maybe it’s a booby trap.)

          In any case, what with increasing large-scale quality fossil fuel energy constraints, large-scale State governments as we’ve come to know and despise them (except of course for a few of the clueless, including perhaps some of their cannon-fodder) may be approaching their last legs, if they’re not already on them– energy for the projection-of-power and all that.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 3:20 pm #

            “Maybe it’s a booby trap…” …or a photo-op.

    • hustled enough October 30, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

      And I agree with you, JHK-Admin. They shouldn’t be launching weapons into Israel. and committing atrocities. I disagree with you that they “make their own prison by their bad behaviour.” Sure–they are part of the problem. But the Israeli approach to this–including Netanyahu’s is also part of the problem. This is something actively debated in Israel. If you treat people barbarically, well, are you surprised if they behave barbarically?

    • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

      Maybe Gaza’s should not use their sovereign territory to launch rockets – JHK-Admin


      I’m guessing Gaza’s should be Gazans.

  8. Nick Reynolds October 30, 2023 at 10:02 am #

    RFKJr has published another blockbuster, this one called “The Wuhan Cover-Up.”

    • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 10:11 am #

      Has he? That’s a good thing. I thought we were just all gonna forget the covid crimes against humanity.

    • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:13 am #

      One trick pony.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 10:35 am #

        If the one trick is accounting for crimes against humanity, I’d say that’s a good thing.

        You wouldn’t.

        • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:51 am #

          Needs to be more than that.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 11:44 am #

            To be president, yes.

  9. izzy October 30, 2023 at 10:10 am #

    In addition to all the new genders on offer, we’ll need a new definition of “winner” to apply when the mayhem has played itself out. With all the nukes now available, Chekov’s Gun Theory takes on very ominous tones.

    • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

      What is the theory?

      • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

        What is the theory? – Jar


        If you had performed a simple google search you would have learned this:

        Chekhov’s gun is a narrative principle that states that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed.

        • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

          As I understand it, it is that if there is a gun on the mantel in the first act, it must be used by the final act.

          Izzy’s talk about nukes makes me think that that is what he meant.

        • megabeth October 30, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

          To wit, Chekhov said that if he described a gun above the mantel, it had better go off at some point in the story.

          Updike, on the other hand, wrote novels that stood around picking their noses a lot.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 6:37 pm #

          I asked the question in order to facilitate discussion. Do you understand, gas huffer?

  10. BULLITT October 30, 2023 at 10:12 am #

    As a kid in the 50’s and early 60’s I grew up in a small town that had quite a number of Jewish merchants. Since they had control of most of the daily needs, they took advantage of the people in town. They didn’t associate with other than their tribe in town. They treated other ethnics, Italians, Polish, etc. as second-class people. Even a kid, I knew this wasn’t right.
    My Italian parents always told me to deal with them, but don’t trust them.
    Have things really changed?
    Yes, Israel needs a Country. But at this point, the Muslims will never trust the Jewish people.
    In the end, the Jewish people will figure a way for America to pay for their war and make money on the whole deal.
    The Muslims are just bat shit crazy…

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    • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 10:42 am #

      I recently had to make a deal with an Indian man. Dot, not feather.

      I had heard many things about making a deal with an Indian, mostly along the lines of “don’t”.

      I knew a man running his own business, when he got a call from and Indian, asking him to come out and give them an estimate on a job, would not return the call.

      As it turned out, the man was very nice, made me a very fair offer, and took a great weight off my shoulders.

      Just an anecdote.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:15 pm #

        Which man? The man or the Indian?

        • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 1:46 pm #

          Yes Jar, I too was confused by Beryl’s telling of the anecdote.

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          • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 3:03 pm #

            Sorry, I placed the part about the guy with his own business where it confused the narrative.

            I was concerned about making a deal with an Indian, but the Indian turned out to be very nice and also honest.

  11. docmartin October 30, 2023 at 10:13 am #

    Scott Ritter is a cunt and so is this Jimmy Word. Note to Mr Kunstler: stop being “ fair” to assholes. It’s YOUR BLOG, not a public forum.

    • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

      What was the name of that guy who got fired after he said, Our grandfathers used to deal with these people (the Bund) with baseball bats – as if that was the way to deal with critics of Israel.

    • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 7:16 pm #

      Funny that my first retort to the imbecile doc above (which was not derogatory) got deleted, while his inane stupidity survives. If I didn’t know better, I’d think that Jim doesn’t like me. LOL!

      • Suburban_elk October 30, 2023 at 7:39 pm #

        @Jimmy: You’re doin great, kid.

        pardon the colloquialism, I just always wanted to say that..

        I wish I could be neutral on the problems of those people, over there, but it’s hard not to take a side, and realistically, why is most of the world sick of Israel’s bs?

        Israel, Bibi specifically, brags that he has America as his attack dog. Given that reality, Americans are responsible for making clear that our government is acting without our sanction, in its support, or scratch that: in its advocacy for and promulgation of, Israel.

        Israel will likely get its comeuppance, to one degree or another, and this is what Scott Ritter was on about; he is suggesting that the world’s affairs, the likelihood of a stage less fraught with deadly peril, will be better off if when Israel gets knocked down a peg or five, here.

        JHK saw the writing on the wall re Russia and Ukraine — namely that the US was the bad guys. But Israel is a more contentious topic. Tho it’s really the same war, just a different front.

        • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:56 pm #

          Thanks S_e! I need all the support I can get on this blog.

  12. BackRowHeckler October 30, 2023 at 10:13 am #

    I wouldn’t much stock in what Scott Ritter has to say, as he is a degenerate who has been 2x arrested for sex crimes directed at underage girls.

    Ritter is disqualified.

    • Night Owl October 30, 2023 at 11:11 am #

      Interestingly enough, allegations of “sex crimes” are one of globocap’s favorite smear tactics.

      One Julian Assange can tell you all bout that.

      Not sure I’d go all-in on that viewpoint. The allegations against Ritter came after he spoke out against the fraudulent Iraq war, which, ofc, was tied to the second-greatest hoax in modern history.

      • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2023 at 11:21 am #

        I never thought of that.

        Good point, Owl.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

          Good work. Now what else aren’t you thinking about?

      • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 11:48 am #

        IIRC, that particular sex crime was one where no actual victim existed.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

          Like a word without a referrant or a murder without a body.

          • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

            Like Jamal Khashoggi?

      • Groundhog October 30, 2023 at 7:09 pm #

        There are many great hoaxes that have happened. So there is the second-greatest hoax in modern history. What is the first greatest hoax then? Or am I misreading this……

        • messianicdruid October 30, 2023 at 9:55 pm #

          Taking the name “Israel” instead of Judah for their country confused a few but deluded many.

    • elysianfield October 30, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

      I watched the entire Ritter rant…it was like watching a train wreck…he said things that many people believe, but cannot be said, and he said it poorly, with more emotion than was prudent. It was his version of “Kill them all…God will know his own”.

      Entirely impolitic.

      Ritter has probably seen his last major Podcast. Disqualified? Maybe. But not for his liking of post pubescent girls…who doesn’t?

      There, but for the Grace of God, go us.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

        Thank you. Marrying teenage girls was quite normal up to the 19th century. Past twenty and they’re becoming old maids.

        Of course they’re not raised to be wives and mothers anymore, so marrying them is not appropriate – be they teenagers, 20 plus, or 30 plus.

        • megabeth October 30, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

          You never grew up in my family. We girls got constantly derided for going to college. Dad and Grandpa saw it as a waste of a guy’s seat in class. I once showed Grandpa a science fiction novel I’d translated into Portuguese (Grandpa sometimes translated things), and he said. “So, when are you going to have children?”

          It ticked me off at the time, but now I realize that the old man was largely right. Glad to have not forgotten to have kids because there is no greater joy.

          On the other hand, I have paddled my own canoe financially better than Grandpa would have guessed.

          • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

            Yes, Gramps and I were right. Or Gramps’n me. Glad you finally see it.

            Patriarchy is the Way. Take our hand and we will lead you to Paradise.

      • FGB3 October 31, 2023 at 1:54 am #

        Oh I smelled out Ritter quite a few months ago. I have pretty good radar for self-destructive individuals who don’t know when enough is enough. They invariably ignore the Line and march on past it. A man always shows his true self in time. Which, by the way, is why I truly love Putin.

    • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

      I wouldn’t [put] much stock in what Scott Ritter has to say – BRH

  13. Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 10:15 am #

    Has anyone calling for a cease fire even thought to maybe call upon Hamas to surrender the savage sociopaths who murdered thousands, even babies?

    No. Of course not. They want Israel to annihilate the entirety of Gaza, or at least attempt to.

    Why else would they overlook the obvious, albeit temporary, end to the harm being inflicted on civilians?

    • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2023 at 10:23 am #

      It’s starting to look like the IDF will limit its incursions into Gaza; instead of hundreds of thousands of troops in a massive invasion it will be smaller scale raids searching for specific targets (and destroying them) Hamas will use Palestinian civilians for cover and the last thing Israel needs is an urban combat situation like the found Marines at Fallujah or the US Army in Manila in 1945.

      • KesaAnna October 30, 2023 at 10:44 am #

        I’m not following it particularly closely , but that is the impression I’m getting ;

        The Israelis have already dialed back from the mother of all battles / wars ,

        to a thousand and one little , slow , boring , tedious police actions.

        Most of the hype appears to be on paper and in front of the cameras.

        • Night Owl October 30, 2023 at 11:12 am #

          Not so sure about that. They appear to be bombing night and day. There are plenty of videos on Twatter showing massive destruction.

          Whateverone thinks about this conflict, a genocide is taking place.

          • KesaAnna October 30, 2023 at 11:38 am #

            Can’t and won’t dispute it.

            Like I said , I’m not following it closely.

            The performance of the Russian Army in Ukraine is my interest , it is going to stay my interest , and that’s just the way things are.

            I was fucking bored with Palastine the first day.

          • Islander October 30, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

            Forwarded by a college classmate:

            “The numbers are so huge (today 8306 killed, including 3457 children) that humanity blurs in the horror.

            Transmitted below is an email which I have just received from my friend. . . Mohammed Omer, who for many years was probably the leading English-language journalist in Gaza but, fortunately, is no longer living there.


            Dear [name],

            I must share some profoundly saddening news with you. My cousin Alaa, along with her husband and their five children, tragically lost their lives in an airstrike that hit an entire residential area in the west of Gaza City, Shati camp. They had sought refuge at a UN school, but as the children felt the cold within the shelter, Alaa, though scared for four days to return to her home, returned to get warm clothes. Her husband accompanied her, as they had no one to care for their children, including a 10-month-old baby. Tragically, they were unable to make it out of the house when an airstrike struck a minute after they all got in, leaving their bodies trapped between two floors. So far, ambulance crews have managed to extract her husband’s body, but the children and their mother remain buried, and there are no heavy machines available in Gaza’s most densely populated refugee camp to assist in their rescue.

            This loss is nothing short of devastating for our family, and I felt it was important to share this heartbreaking news with you.

            Warm regards,


            This is the kind of thing that JHK now seems to think is in the interests of the USA. Weird.

        • D from OR October 30, 2023 at 11:16 am #

          It’s theater however they don’t have a large enough cast or props to do the big invasion “grand finale” so instead will be the usual.

        • D from OR October 31, 2023 at 9:56 am #


          The story is barely on ZeroHedge now.

          The narrative petered out because the writers didn’t really know how it was supposed to go.

          It was all high drama until it wasn’t.

          Seems to happen a lot lately.

          Elon Musk also “wrecked things” by providing Starlink.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

        We need those Chechen peace keepers – Now!

  14. crudgemudgeon October 30, 2023 at 10:16 am #

    Yes, we live in interesting times. Whatever happens, the CCP seems to always benefit. The dragon is on a roll.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

      Yup! The dragon is the head of BRICS++. The relationship between Xi and Putin is a good indicator.

      The enemy is us.

  15. Uncle.Al October 30, 2023 at 10:23 am #

    The simple one-night solution to Palestine is a General Curtis LeMay (RE 09 March 1945) mass MOABing of the Gaza Strip. Dust. Given the blast radius…no more than 50 AREneeded.

    A MOAB is a fuel-air bomb based upon a cloud of micronized aluminum and titanium. No carbon dioxide pollution, therefore not reGRETAble.

    *Remember! “The first time is never a war crime.”*

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    • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 11:29 am #

      Those things are damn impressive from a purely technological standpoint. Most of the explosive power of a nuke with no radioactive regrets afterward.

    • Groundhog October 30, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

      Here’s how this is probably going to end. A large part of the world’s oil supply passes through the Straits of Hormuz which is next to Iran. A general war in the ME will make all that oil unavailable and the global price of petroleum will double or even triple and destroy industrial economies in the West. Y’all want war? Fine! Be prepared to pay at the pump and at the grocery store. Say goodbye to comfy suburban living and hello to misery and chaos.

      • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        Right now, the direction of oil flow is drifting east as China leaves the coal field in favor of ME and Russian oil and gas. Losing Ukraine and Israel will accelerate the movement.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

      Yeah, don’t they have dam busting underground bombs that could destroy the tunnel systems?

      Seems to me everyone seems to be holding back in both wars, not using weapons to do the job. We have feared the Great Bear for 70 years, why? The cannot even beat Ukraine.

      • Groundhog October 30, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

        The bear has already beaten Ukraine. It’s all over but the shoutin’.

  16. KesaAnna October 30, 2023 at 10:23 am #

    It seems to me that the forever problem with politics is that you want certitudes , blacks and whites ,

    and that is precisely what you NEVER get.

    For one thing , because politics attracts the very worst people.

    It sounds hyperbolic , but I think you are more likely to find good people among drug dealers , or in prison.

    In politics , scratch for a hero , and you come up with a fiend.

    In my own backyard ,

    I have always been a pro – Russian partisan ,

    but I would hope that i at least occasionally point out , and if I haven’t , I’ll point it out here ;

    Vladimir Putin’s career didn’t begin in a vacuum in 1991.

    He was a KGB colonel , and the KGB wasn’t the Girl Scouts.

    Maybe the Leopard can change its spots , maybe the Prince of Darkness can become Mary Poppins ,

    but it seems reasonable to me to be rather skeptical about it.

    In your yard —

    Maybe Joe Biden was right that Clarence Thomas was a bad egg and a pervert ?

    But I think the evidence is pretty strong now that if that was the case , it was the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 10:49 am #

      “Michael Flynn, who Trump says would have a prominent position in his next Admin, says that members of the House and Senate are compromised by globalists who have blackmail on them because they had sex with children.”

      • KesaAnna October 30, 2023 at 11:27 am #

        I long ago came to the conclusion that the result of , ” Get tough on crime ” would be paralysis.

        It turns out I’m not psychic though , because I never in my wildest dreams would have imagined this degree of paralysis.

        It seems the puppet masters have been ensnared in the web of their own strings.

        It makes sense , in hindsight.

        • badberries October 30, 2023 at 11:34 am #

          “Puppet Masters” Classic Heinlein.

          • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

            Hmmm, Epstein?

          • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:18 pm #

            The Epstein revelations didn’t deal with children, but with teenaged girls.

            That is why you are allowed to talk about them.

          • Night Owl October 30, 2023 at 4:39 pm #

            No, John, much worse.

            What the media called “Pizzagate” (among other things, no doubt).

            Child sex-trafficking among elites.

            The circumstantial evidence for the DC ring with Podesta and co. was rather copious.

        • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2023 at 8:09 pm #

          Hey KA most of your posting was in the wee hours of the morning ~ nice to see you mixing it up here during the day. What changed?

      • tuco22 October 30, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

        Somehow, this really doesn’t surprise me. I read recently that child sex trafficking is a $150 billion a year business in the US; that’s not the hoi polloi spending that kind of money.

    • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 2:00 pm #

      Joe Biden protected Clarence Thomas and shepherded him into the Supreme Court.
      He defended his own. There is no bigger pervert than Joe Biden.

      • Heartlander October 30, 2023 at 6:05 pm #

        What the…??

        Joe Biden TRASHED Clarence Thomas.

        I remember those confirmation hearings quite vividly. I was APPALLED at Joe Biden’s hateful viciousness against Clarence Thomas in those hearings, and have despised Joe Biden ever since.

        • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 8:31 pm #

          I stand corrected. I was vague on the memory.

          But Joe Biden is an asshole to everyone.

  17. bobfitz03 October 30, 2023 at 10:26 am #

    The world is being whipped into a frenzy. Who is doing the whipping and why?

    Fingers on the triggers are given guns and marching orders. Marching orders come down from the highest levels of organizations. The highest levels receives directives from the powers that be.

    Someone with ability to direct violence and marshal troops globally wants war. And not just any war by the looks of it.

    Israelis, Hamas, Iran, America, Jews, Muslims, Christians…whatever. Erase the names and labels. Human beings are killing and being killed with an intent to ramp the ever more killing on a massive scale globally.

    Why? Who benefits? Good people?

    • OG October 30, 2023 at 10:54 am #

      Global depop. is indeed multi-faceted and modern warfare is the most effective method of depop. You’ve got the explosions and gun-fire itself and then a deluge of trickle-down effects like disease and localized anarchy.

      The Four Horsemen have finished their breakfast.

      Who took out the Georgia Guidestones on 7/6/22?

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 11:30 am #

        Plus lots of traumatized and maimed survivors! What’s not to love?

      • badberries October 30, 2023 at 11:32 am #

        In my defense, I didn’t know her name was Georgia. It was only a “one nighter”. Pray for me?

      • Heartlander October 30, 2023 at 4:14 pm #

        The organizers and controllers of global financial capital (OCGFC) want their democide, and the Covid shots are not killing off people fast enough. WW3 oughtta do it.


    • smokestack October 30, 2023 at 11:12 am #

      Yes, this.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 11:20 am #

      Who benefits?

      Who is not involved but benefits from this proxy war, especially if the US through Syria gets involved?

      My vote is BRICS++, our real adversary in the world.

      China is in favor of the Palestinians, Russia and Iran, another current BRICS++ joinee, are collaborating, their real target is the US. They are pulling the MIC, neocon trick in reverse, let others do the fighting for them. Their goal, getting the US into the fight.

      Biden is an enemy of the US with everything that is going on right now. His family and Mob are all heavily invested in the whole BRICS++ side, both financially and politically. Ukraine keeps Russia busy, Dems favorite foe, and China, well, there is China. Better believe there are negotiations concerning the fate of Taiwan going on, my guess is that Taiwan will vote itself into joining China. I wonder how many US companies are deserting this ship currently. I know Taiwan Semiconductors are setting up shop in Phoenix.

      The R in BRICS++ is going to negotiate a deal soon with Ukraine, ensuring its security from NATO, or IOW the EU and the USA, the West. Guess who may lose here? I will guarantee the Mob is doing whatever it can to maintain autonomy over Ukraine, much to the detriment of the Ukrainian people. Zelensky should be shot, but I will bet his digs in the US are already picked out.

      BRICS++ vs. the WEST. Everything is moving in this direction. The Ukrainians and the Palestinians and IDF are unfortunate victims in the big power struggle.

      BTW, Soros has claimed credit for financing the Palestinian protests in the USA. I remember he advertised and paid for the Virginia and BLM riots. Why can’t the government stop them, father and now son?

      Because they, the government want them to tear this country apart.

      BRICS++ vs the West. Is this actually a race war?
      Are the darks of the world ganging up on the white West? Will the European human element be torn down by a coalition of Dark skinned people? BTW, Russia is an exception to this as the animosity between the Europeans and Russia forgets that Russia is white, at least the side west of the Urals. Russia is an anomaly.

      Will the race war become the pathway to domination by the Chinese? I would lay money on the bet that is Beijing’s plan.

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 11:33 am #

        I think you grant the Chinese wisdom nowhere in evidence. But they’re at least smart enough to stay out of the way so far while the US destroys the last remaining vestiges of its credibility.

        • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

          Well, Jimmy, is it Chinese wisdom or US stupidity? Or both?

          • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

            Both, but I think their “wisdom” is being expressed as cautious wait and see, not by meddling. Never interfere while your opponent is busy shooting himself in the foot and all that.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

        Israel benefits (maybe) if we’re stupid enough to go to war for them. It depends if we win of course.

        • cbeard October 30, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

          Palestine, Israel, the middle east in general is and has always been a quagmire. A no win situation. Let them fight it out to the death. What to do about the oil. I don’t know. Alternative fuels not ready for prime time.

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  18. docmartin October 30, 2023 at 10:29 am #

    Why Mr Kunstler allows so many jerks to speak their mind on HIS website I will never understand. Most of them are trolls or perma contrarians. They are mean spirited losers empowered by their web anonymity.

    • OG October 30, 2023 at 10:41 am #

      I would hazard a guess that JHK firmly believes in the First Amendment. In fact, to me that seems self-evident.

      It is a shame that you will “never understand” the First Amendment because it is one of the highest achievements and practices of mankind’s entire history.

      God bless Mr K for hosting this public square!

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:49 am #

        doc’s not real quick on the uptake, but he tries real hard.

    • badberries October 30, 2023 at 11:30 am #

      I’m empowered by the security of my mommies basement. God bless mommies everywhere.

    • Islander October 30, 2023 at 3:25 pm #

      Mr. Kunstler may be gathering “intelligence.”

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 7:11 pm #

        Do ya think?

  19. stelmosfire October 30, 2023 at 10:30 am #

    “Egypt, Jordan, Syria, will not take them.”

    I can all but guarantee that the USA will take a few hundred thousand no questions asked. We’ll surely pay other countries to take them also. We’re overdue for a homeland attack. Something along a “Day of Wrath” type as spelled out by William Forstchen in the novelette by the same name.

    • badberries October 30, 2023 at 11:27 am #

      I say, “give the Palestinians everything from River to Sea and give the Israelis New York City for entertainment and Florida for agriculture”.

      • badberries October 30, 2023 at 11:28 am #

        Oh wait, I forgot we’ve already given NYC and Florida away. Apologies, my bad.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 11:28 am #

      Yeah, BRIC++ vs, the West, homeland style.

      Cannot anyone realize that the thing that has saved the US from all the wars that have torn the world apart is its isolation. The isolation that has been protected by the tenets of the Monroe Doctrine.

      Well, folks, that isolation is being eaten away by the Dark immigration that is changing America and Europe into Dark countries.

      BRICS++ vs, the West, heck why fight war, just absorb them.

      Ukraine and Israel are both West proxies.

      I believe the divergence of the blog and of the country in general is the result of BRICS++ winning the unfought war.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

        “We control the United States.”


    • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

      Jordan already kicked them out, after they used terrorism to try to overthrow the government and kill the king, back in the 70s.

      Syria still has them, but they allied with the terrorists when the US-backed attacks on Syria started in 2011.

      I don’t know about Egypt.

  20. Zoltar October 30, 2023 at 10:38 am #

    “Israel … has installed over 600,000 settlers in the West Bank, said to be in violation of international agreements.” Said?

    We have long known that Israel is the blind spot of our host on this forum and that not sharing it invites banishment, but I’ll try – politely – anyway.

    Dictionary definitions of “Zionism” do not acknowledge the underlying fact that Israel is controlled by racist radicals whose true Zionist agenda is realizing their cherished goal of a “Greater Israel,” for which many maps can be found online. It would consume about half of the Middle East.

    Zoltar — That’s scurrilous propaganda. There’s no evidence of that from anyone close to the center of power in Israel — JHK-Admin

    That map and that goal have a great deal in common with the Neocons’ “Project For The New American Century,” which calls for and has already largely achieved the goal of destroying and then confiscating the resources of seven Middle Eastern Countries. For the Neocons, Iran is to be the crown jewel of this project. The Zionists particularly covet the water resources of Lebanon, and much else besides.

    Setting aside the past behavior of ”settlers” which might be regarded by a reasonable person as having forfeited the world’s good will toward Israel, both the radicals who actually control Israel and the American Neocons with their grand “Project” are the real threat to stability and peace in the Middle East and beyond.

    Most of the world has tried to look the other way as the US and Israel continued to behave as the rogue nations of the world. It appears that they are now realizing that they need to stop doing so.

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    • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 11:11 am #

      While I think this is not only JHK’s worst CFN piece ever in relative terms, but bad in absolute terms, I do give him credit for allowing comments here. (At least the ones I see).

      The US and Israel are not going to stop. I believe Israel is going physically remove all Palestinians from Gaza by killing them, making their life so unbearable they give up and leave. And the West Bank will follow.

      This will make the divisions in the world much sharper, and set us up for WW3, at which time Israel will be Jewish.

      The Israelis will have a brief victory lap, and celebrate the riddance of the Palestinians.

      The monstrosity of this crime (well, the completion of the commission of this crime, to be precise, it’s ongoing, this is now the final act), will unite much of the “rest of the world”. The non-west, were people are hungry, not soft, and they now can make not only weapons, but hi-tech (where do those “Apple” iPhones come from again?)

      The “Greater Israel” maps you refer to, I’ve seen an old one that shows Israel as being from the Med to the Tigris-Euphrates valley. I think that whole region will mark the final battle field of WW3, Armaggedon.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

        Yes, the Palis of Suez will be the Bashi-Bazouks (Turkish term), the Beserkers of the Final Jihad led by the Mahdi himself.

        Once the shield wall is taken down by treachery, they will ride the worms right into Jerusalem itself. They are the Free men or Fremen.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 11:39 am #

      This is not going to be The New American Century by any measure possible. BRICS++ is curtailing American neocons, the Saudis for example. The re-division of the Arabs from negotiations with Israels is a victory dance for the PTB in BRICS++. US Influence is declining and it is accelerating. The 21st century is going to be the rise of the “rest of the world”, not the US.

      Is Biden a progenitor of this movement or a victim?

      • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

        Figure head of who? If he is just representing someone, he is a progenitor.

        Jimmy, here is the deal as I see it. Biden’s Mob is interested in promoting the WEF into the NWO with climate change, virus control, global governance, etc.

        Problem is the real war is between the WEF and BRICS++. So why are we supporting China all the time? Biden family jewels? Oil?, possession of the African resources?, cobalt? Lithium?

        Who exactly is fighting whom? I do not believe the US Mob has a clue.

        • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 4:41 pm #

          Another “lost comment.” I’ve counted three so far.

        • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 7:10 pm #

          Supporting China? We’re nearly at war with them too now, or haven’t you heard? You sure do repeat a lot of unfounded conjecture, JohnAZ.

          • D from OR October 31, 2023 at 9:59 am #

            “You sure do repeat a lot of unfounded conjecture, JohnAZ.”

            Spot on!

    • Islander October 30, 2023 at 3:34 pm #

      If only it were scurrilous propaganda.

      “We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.” David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff.

      “There are a few hundred thousand Negroes but that is a matter of no significance.” The British authorities to Chaim Weizman on the subject of the Palestinians prior to 1948.“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves…politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.” Speech by David Ben-Gurion, 1938, quoted in Zionism and the Palestinians by Simha Flapan, 1979.

      The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates. It includes parts of Syria and Lebanon. Rabbi Fischmann, member of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, in his testimony to the U.N. Special Committee of Enquiry, 1947.

      “A partial Jewish State is not the end, but only the beginning. I am certain that we can not be prevented from settling in the other parts of the country and the region.” David Ben Gurion, in a letter to his son, 1937.

      “We and they [the Palestinians] want the same thing: we both want Palestine. And that is the fundamental conflict.” David Ben-Gurion, 1936.”“After we become a strong force as the result of the creation of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine.” – David Ben-Gurion.

      “It’s not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.” – Ben Gurion.”

      Cherry on cake:
      “”I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I’ve killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do.” Ariel Sharon, In an interview with General Ouze Merham, 1956.”

      Just a sampling

    • Zoltar October 30, 2023 at 6:49 pm #

      Note Islander’s documentation, below. I stand by my preceding statement.

      Israel is controlled today by racist extremists among the ultra orthodox. Their ilk have made it clear many times that they regard non-Jews as subhuman, just as the Nazis once regarded them.

      The widow of the late Sheldon Adelson continues her husband’s purchase of key members of Congress, and Israel’s influence upon American foreign policy is correspondingly great.

  21. erik October 30, 2023 at 10:53 am #

    C’mon now Jim. That Jews should have a right to a homeland is and has been a fatuous meme, believed mostly in the USA since Israel’s recognition, and it resonates nicely. But there’s always been a problem and that’s the fact that implementation of that homeland flies in the face of other values we hold. That would be the idea that a “homeland” in this case involves a democratic state whose freedoms and privileges are reserved exclusively for members of a particular ethno-religious group while others living in the same landscape are consigned to Helot status, a status they’re denied any opportunity to escape from, not them nor their descendants. We, in the west destroyed South Africa as a first world nation, precisely because white South Africans were trying to do the same thing. Israel could solve all its problems by becoming a multi-confessional country, but doing so would would deprive Israeli Jews of their special status as citizens of the “Jewish State”.
    But that’s the rub, isn’t it? The eternal volatility of that region is directly derivative of an arrangement for living that’s unfair and always will be.

    • badberries October 30, 2023 at 11:23 am #

      Then there’s the small problem of American guilt for allowing “the Holocaust” to go on for so long. You see, we didn’t give 2 sh!ts about the Jewry of Europe until it became a good cover story for our involvement (after the fact).

      I don’t recall ever hearing an FDR speech that alluded to saving European Jewry from annihilation. Kinda like Lincoln and his regard for “the White Mans Burden” that is, no regard at all unless it was politically beneficial.

      • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

        I read (probably on Unz) that it wasn’t until the US entered the war that the Germans decided to go ahead with the Holocaust.

        Maybe, maybe not, but the timing is right.

        • Islander October 30, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

          The Germans didn’t “go ahead with the Holocaust.” That is, it wasn’t a nifty idea they had in their closet. They came up with the Final Solution to the Jewish Question in early 1942. That is why it was called “final.” Earlier “solutIons’ would not work in the new situation.

          The new situation was the conquest of lands in eastern Europe that contained millions of Jews.

          I suggest reading the Wannsee Protocol, of March 1942, to understand the “logic” of the Nazis’ “Final Solution to the Jewish Question” (Endloesung der Judenfrage)..



      • tuco22 October 30, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

        I’ve read that nobody believed it at first. It was too monstrous. I mean, gas chambers and ovens? Really? Germans? And then when they did, saving Jews wasn’t the mission. The mission was defeating Germany.

        • Night Owl October 30, 2023 at 4:52 pm #

          There is one problem, of course, and that is the 6 million number. That number surfaced in discussions of dead Jews a number of times prior to the holocaust in Germany in various publications.

          The Nazis killed a lot of Jews, but they killed a lot of people in general, particularly, gypsies, the disabled, and anyone who they felt were a burden to what they considered an ideal society.

          My point, should it be unclear, is that the technique you are calling into question can and is applied to many situations where the truth can never be revealed–Covid being the most recent example.

          There is no hard evidence for a virus, yet look how many not only believe it has to exist, but even more subjected themselves to some of the most absurd “safety” measures (devoid of all logic), and even went so far as to inject themselves with a product for which the informational package insert was left blank.

          The mind reels.

          • Rooftop Observer October 31, 2023 at 7:31 pm #

            It was that or the bleach…

          • Night Owl November 1, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

            “Trump told me to drink bleach”


    • King of Comedy October 30, 2023 at 11:47 am #

      Maybe seeing the shithole that SA has become is giving some pause that it’s maybe not the best idea to try to repeat it in the ME.

      And the Jews seeing the multicultural paradise that SA has become (and the precarious state of Whites – kill the Boer, anyone?) are probably seeing that as a not the greatest idea either. The world is pissed I tell you, pissed, that the Yids aren’t docilely marching into the gas chambers this time around.

      But the bigger issue for you dainties is that “taking” land is as old as walking on two feet. Every swinging dick on the planet is the descendant of colonists and occupiers. When the shooting war starts here, those believing there is some kind of international law that anybody will give a shit about are in for a really rude awakening.

      • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

        Wasn’t it the Brits who killed the Boers?

        • King of Comedy October 30, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

          Recent chant at a political rally in said shithole:

          The political rally was winding down when the brash leader of a leftist South African party grabbed the microphone and began to stomp and chant. Thousands of supporters joined in, and when he reached the climax, they pointed their fingers in the air like guns.

          “Kill the Boer!” Julius Malema chanted, referring to white farmers. The crowd in a stadium in Johannesburg on Saturday roared back in approval.

          • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

            OK, I hadn’t heard of that recent use. I had heard of the use of it at the turn of the last century.

          • Linda October 31, 2023 at 9:26 am #

            Yes, the Brits killed the Boers. Boer is the Dutch word for farmer, which is what these people mostly were.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

          Yeah Paula, cuz the Blacks never kill anyone.

          More genius from the communist.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

        Early in its history, planet Earth– yes, the one over there, see it?– had no life on its surface.
        It was eventually colonized with flora and fauna, biodiversity, and us.

        Now, if the very first plant on the land, let’s say, cooksonia, because I like the name and it looks cool too, decided and successfully enforced that it was going to be the only occupant of the land ever, then we’d all be using the internet underwater right now.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

        Yeah, Whites are expendable. Hell it’s a good thing. The problem is that sometimes the Chosen get mistaken for Whites.

        Ain’t you a peach?

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

          Exploding Races

          Did you ever manage to figure out what ‘race’ of your so-called ‘white’ race you are, Jarek?

          If so, what is it? If not, can you offer us a ballpark estimate?

          “You might have more in common with some so-called ‘blacks’ than you do with some of your so-called ‘whites’.

          Meanwhile, some of your so-called ‘blacks’ might have more in common with some of your so-called ‘whites’ than those whites do with you.

          Then what do you do?

          I mean, how do you stand, Jarek? Literally. What’s your structure? How would you describe it? Do you think some ‘blacks’ might echo it better than some ‘whites’? Are you ‘white’? Is your neck long or short? Are you pigeon-toed or bow-legged or what? Brown eyes? Blue? Green? What’s your taste in fashion? Music? Do you like button-down collared dress shirts? Turtleneck sweaters?” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/halloween-parable/#comment-834404

          “In any case, further along, I concede about what I might rather call ethnicity unless a good argument can be made for calling it race and/or until new offshoots cannot breed with the old anymore, and/or somethings like those.

          But my concession is further qualified here and there in the threads with the idea that you can draw somewhat arbitrary lines/categories through many aspects of what makes a human being and then draw parallels in others based on those arbitrary categories. And so you have an explosion of ‘new’ races/categories/ethnicities that don’t necessarily have anything to do with ‘white’ or ‘black’ or ‘brown’.

          And that’s probably part of what some scientists and others like me are talking about when they say that race is a social construct.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/halloween-parable/#comment-834476

          • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

            The race of men who wear turtlenecks and who have bowed legs. it works! It works!

            Just like no Saber Tooth was exactly like another Sabert Tooth. Therefore? There were no Saber tooths. Each moment is completely unique. The universe is recreating itself every second as the Sufis say. Just so women – making it all up as they go along.

            Son, that big furry thing comin this way has nothing to do with whatever big furry thing that killed your ma, and brother. Don’t be prejudiced. If we treat it right, it’ll probably treat us right (with hot sauce!)

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 9:28 pm #

            So what race of the ‘white’ race are you?

            Better still, perhaps, what race of that race of the ‘white’ race are you?

            Do your knees knock or thighs rub a little when you walk?

            What does you ass look like? How would you describe it?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 9:33 pm #

            Do you smoke? Do you bite your nails? Don’t be shy.

          • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 10:57 pm #

            This is how Tribals talk. You gotta be! The hatred is white hot.

            Remember though, race is a social construct.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 11:47 pm #

            We’re all fundamentally tribal, so that’s a non-starter. Question is which.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 11:51 pm #

            “Remember though, race is a social construct.” ~ Jarek

            It is and it isn’t: The question is where you draw your categories. I’ve already mentioned that. I also mentioned overlap and blurring where your ‘whites’ and ‘blacks’ are concerned.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 11:57 pm #

            …And that’s probably part of what some scientists and others like me are talking about when they say that race is a social construct.

      • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

        I agree strongly with your 3rd paragraph. That is why I like to remind people that “might makes right.”

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 9:30 pm #

          It might.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 11:48 am #

      Gee Erik, I think you are right. Remember the colonial past, when the technologically advanced West, Europe, cashed in on all the resources of the world. Aren’t we just continuing colonialism today as we want more oil, lithium, cobalt, rubber etc. as cheaply as possible? Wasn’t the formation of the US a reaction of a bunch of colonial servants to the British Empire? Since then hasn’t the US been a bastion of colonialism on our own continent with Manifest Destiny the rallying cry.

      The US is about to get it up the kazoo by all the servile forces of the world. Biden’s leadership is facilitating the changes.

    • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

      The Blacks weren’t in South Africa before the Whites. The Bushmen and Khoi peoples were – people who always been treated horribly by the Blacks.

      • Mac October 30, 2023 at 3:57 pm #

        Hot n Tots maybe as well?

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 6:53 pm #

          Yeah, I think they’re both called “Khoisan”, not completely sure.

          Some say that this general people were in all of Southern Africa and that the Bushmen were a small or “dwarf” type adapted for the harsh conditions of the desert.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 4:24 pm #

        We’re all out of ‘Africa’ apparently.

  22. KesaAnna October 30, 2023 at 10:56 am #

    ” Note to Mr Kunstler: stop being “ fair” to assholes ”

    Hee Hee.

    I could have been the first post today ,

    but I was scared.


  23. Opie October 30, 2023 at 10:59 am #

    Here’s an idea. Since the whole premise of Israel is based on a promise from God himself that that land would be forever the home of the son’s of Abraham, then perhaps with todays technological DNA screening we could allow anyone with a certain threshold of Semite genes the right to citizenship. If you come from genetic stock that married into or converted to Judaism or Muslim centuries latter then you must get in line for visa’s/citizenship based on whatever the country wants.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 11:55 am #

      The state of Israel is a European country with little middle eastern roots. In the BRIC++ vs, West war, it is the only Western country in the region. Hamas has succeeded in stopping the negotiations between SA, Qatar, and UAE with Israel. That is a win for BRICS++.

      Israel has probably absorbed al the Jews of the Middle East, but Europe was the source of most of them.

      Just think of what is happening right now historically. If Ukraine and Israel lose, the US is finished on the world scene, along with its allies in Europe.

      Worth fighting for?

      • Opie October 30, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

        “Israel has probably absorbed al the Jews of the Middle East, but Europe was the source of most of them.”
        That was the point of my idea. I think the Zionists Scott Ritter went off on has more to do with the spread via all out media blitz these past 50 years of God chose this land for us, further propagated by evangelists such as Hagee than as a diatribe against all Jews in general. But at the end of the day, I say stay the hell out of it and stop sending the $30k per man, woman and child we sent to each citizen of Israel via support. If they want to exterminate all the Palestinian’s, it’s not my fight. I ,as a US citizen am more concerned with the Muslim world taking it out on my country due to it’s largess to Israel.

        • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

          And you should be.

          Jimmy Word seems to think that the USA should be destroyed, so I wonder if he is an American?

          Our lives will never be the same after these wars, much like 9/11.

          • Groundhog October 30, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

            Nope. After “these wars” are over it is likely the USA will lose acess to imported petroleum. That means the automobile culture will fall upon very hard times. People who have their lives centered around cars may discover that their “god” has died. What to do after that – after circumstances force the US into making lifestyle changes that leave everyone bitter, angry, and confused. Why is gasoline being rationed? Why can’t I have my gas?

          • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

            It will be the biggest temper tantrum we have ever seen in our lives.

            BLM has nothing on the way the car devotees will react when the gas stations are empty.

          • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 4:44 pm #

            Jimmy Word thinks the US – the DC kleptocracy – is busy destroying itself. And 9/11 was a false flag. You really need to pull your head out, JohnAZ.

          • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 8:17 pm #


            Much like 9/11?

            Yes, our lives changed a lot because of 9/11, regardless of how it happened.

            Now please remove your own cranius invertus.

  24. D from OR October 30, 2023 at 11:02 am #

    “One is the practical question of where that Palestinian State would be…”

    And then it goes, “blah, blah and blah” to me. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

    I have no desire to understand, comprehend and wrestle with this continual tribal “conflict”.

    It’s grotesque in more ways than one and I am one of those Americans who just doesn’t care.

    A normal reaction by-the-way – to care more about my country than another.

    Sure “Jihad” could happen though if it does you can be certain it’s helped along by the U.S. Intel/Deep State apparatus which is our real enemy.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 11:57 am #


      What happens if Ukraine and Israel are chalked up as victories by BRICS++? Have you even considered what the effect on you might be if the US is relegated to third world status?

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

        That effect will be inevitable either way. The US is virtually third world as we speak, most have just not woken up to that fact. It’s a process first, a destination second.

        • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

          Have you even visited the third world? The US is not even close to third world status,


          • Groundhog October 30, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

            One of the best ways I know of to visit the “third world” in a virtual sense is to follow the adventures of a motorcyclist traveling alone and wandering about taking video of what one will see and experience in the “third world”. It’s the you tube channel “Itchy Boots”. Third world is not such a bad way to live and in some ways it is better than 1st world. 3rd world mostly horrifies the average citizen of Europe or USA due to what they’ll see as “discomforts”.

          • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 4:45 pm #

            Many times.

          • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 6:56 pm #


            And there are other channels where the reporter travels through that world (South Sudan, Nigeria, Venezuela), and shows videos and interviews of families of eight who live eight to a tattered tent and sleep on three soaked and mouldy mattresses. Then when they awake, they’re greeted by teens looking to steal their yams-for-a-day to trade for drugs.

            Not such a bad way, indeed.

            Then we can talk about the medical system. Doctors are worked to death and paid shit, which is why well over 90% of African doctors who first get their shingle emigrate to the U.S., Canada, or other 1st world country who’ll take them.

            John’s right. And also right to add “YET”.

          • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 8:20 pm #

            John spent time in the navy, literally going around the world. I was so glad to get back to America.

          • oldandtired November 1, 2023 at 9:17 am #

            @JohnAZ: “The US is not even close to third world status,YET.” John, a third world country trying to become a first world country might have a different look and vibe than a first world country on its way to a third world country? Rome didn’t fall in a day?

      • D from OR October 31, 2023 at 10:35 am #

        Your world view is cartoonish at best JohnAZ.

        There’s lots of third world going on a few blocks from here called downtown Portland. See any major “blue” U.S. city.

        Also, last I checked BRICS was an Economic Trade Organization and barely that at this point. They have no currency or military force. Their internal trading and organization is nascent at best.

        Why would BRICs claim victory in these “military conflicts” when the point is to be outside of the current world order?

        They’re just watching the West destroy itself and so they don’t have to say a peep.

    • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 2:00 pm #

      Sanity at last from the Democrat. Maybe there is hope.

      Yes, what about OUR side? Of course she doesn’t know who we are. But sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. I celebrate this victory, be it ever so small.

  25. Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 11:04 am #

    “What a moment to be leaderless!”

    Someone pointed out that no matter what Republicans we vote for, we get John McCain (regarding the new Speaker). I can’t remember who said it to attribute it.

    I also can’t remember who said John McCain is controlling Lindsay Graham from Hell.

    We aren’t leaderless, our leaders are in Hell.

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    • reggiezz October 30, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

      Trump showed everyone the system can’t be changed from the inside. It’s either collapse, or the nukes fly, or both. Newsom is already negotiating to make CA a Chinese colony.

      • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 8:21 pm #

        Isn’t there a law against Newsom going to China on his own?

        • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 8:22 pm #

          Oh yeah, I forgot. The laws do not apply to Democrats.

  26. badberries October 30, 2023 at 11:15 am #

    Seal the borders and cue Covid-24 into Gaza. Simple.

    • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:31 pm #

      Good point. If the Israelis really wanted to genocide the Palestinians, they could just release a bioweapon into the place.

      • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 8:44 pm #

        The Israeli government may not want to “genocide the Palestinians”

        But, it wants them gone.

        The optics of killing them all are bad. Even in the US, it would look pretty bad–genocide plus economic depression could be a BIG lift for all of “Israel’s allies”.

        That’s why they’ve only destroyed 45-50% of the structures according to some Arab news accounts. Now, 45-50% is a lot–but I think they could have taken out many more.

        They (the Israeli government) prefer not literally kill the all the Palestinians. But they want them “removed”.

        That means those who don’t leave and decide to stay behind are “terrorist accomplices” and need to be “neutralize”.

        You’ll see. Gaza first, West Bank next.

  27. wm5135 October 30, 2023 at 11:19 am #

    Today’s missive brings to mind the scene from “Blazing Saddles” where Cleavon Little’s character holds a gun to his own neck and declares “The next man makes a move the nigger get’s it” followed by the chararacter of a politician assuring the crowd, “Hold it men, he’s not bluffing”. A voice from the crowd cries out, “He’s just crazy enough to do it”.

    there is a video of a Palestinian child, a little girl crying,- “I want my momma”
    i hear Lonnie Mack singing “You got to reap just what you sow, that old sayin is true”. Further On Up the Road – 1965

    Honey, look over the fence, it’s time to mow the lawn again.

    “Out damned spot”

    “Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam”

  28. reggiezz October 30, 2023 at 11:34 am #

    I like to look at the strategic side of things and the “New World Order” of Bush I and Ii that is being upended. Erdogan had a lot to say the last few days, including threats to attack Israel. Can you imagine the NATO conundrum with that one? I’d say NATO has unraveled. It’s done.

    Now imagine Turkey, instead of attacking Israel, suddenly decides to ally with China. That would change the entire picture in the Middle East and in Ukraine. Checkmate. Erdogan is in the catbird seat.

    • GreenAlba October 30, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

      Last time Erdogan wouldn’t do what he was told (condemn the Russians), there was an earthquake, out of the blue, with unusual characterstics.

      • OG October 30, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

        What are you saying, GA? 100 & Gus have already firmly established here on CFN that DEWs are crazy talk! They knew that immediately after Lahaina 8/8 had temps hot enough to burn and melt everything except the vegetation and the plastic.

        Wait! What?

        • stelmosfire October 30, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

          Newsom caught wind that the Chinese stole the earthquake machine tech from DARPA.. He made an emergency trip to China in an attempt to save California. XI laughed at him.” Why would I do that, California is our new model for the USA.”

      • Night Owl October 30, 2023 at 4:56 pm #

        I had actually forgotten that. Crazy how fast the news changes these days.

      • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 8:54 pm #

        GA, Erdogan had raised the rhetoric with Greece and was on the verge of taking some kind of provocative action, like trying to blockade a Greek island, or perhaps occupying an uninhabited Greek island.

        Turkey is an irredentist country, and Erdogan has not been shy about recreating a modern Ottoman Empire.

        Even Erdogan’s speech/tirade against the Israeli bombing this past Saturday, Oct 28, was oriented toward that direction. In his speech, he made a point to say how “great” things had been in Palestine under the Turks, but also, the Balkans, the Eastern Mediterranean coast and even Crimea!

        The quake, which killed MANY times more Turks than the Israelis have (so far) killed Palestinians, forced Turkey to reduce the bellicose rhetoric, as well as bellicose actions, like overflying Greek Islands temporarily, as the homeless Turks probably could care less about taking Greek islands and wanted help, and there was an election coming up.

        That earthquake may have prevented a war. Also, it did a of damage to southern Turkey.

        • GreenAlba October 30, 2023 at 9:58 pm #

          S-D – I’m not a fan of Erdogan and his aspirations, but thanks for the info. about Greece. Not sure if you’re agreeing it was likely a HAARP project and justifying it, if so.

          • Socrates-Detroit October 31, 2023 at 2:41 am #

            I personally do NOT believe this earthquake was induced by man.

            I think it was a natural disaster, an act of God.

            There is lots of nefarious scheming going on, and a lot that (I think) we do not know, so I suppose anything is possible.

            Some Turks say the Americans did it so Erdogan would not be re-elected. If that was so, I’d say it backfired.

            And I know this may sound outlandish, but I think this Turkish irredentism is going to backfire. There is a lot of pent-up anger in the world, and a lot of intractable problems. This is NOT a good time to be coloring outside the lines.

            Turkey has some internal political/ethic/social fault lines. The elections Erdogan won, he appears to have won–but the “Red/Blue” divide by county province is even sharper than the US. Erdogan was trounced in the “rich Mediterranean coast”.

            The global elites and other world leaders (BRICS) also have big egos and HATE uncertainty and unpredictability. I think they will take their anger out on the Turks.

            The US/West will grab/control the rich Mediterranean coast and the straits, to keep the Russians out, and the Russians will be the mid-wife for Kurdistan, which will be beholden to Russia, and together with an expanded Armenia, give Russia direct access to Syria.

            It will look eerily reminiscent of the map of the “secret” Sykes-Picot agreement in 1915, while WW1 was going on, to break up the Ottoman Empire and divide Turkey amongst the Western powers.

            (and in 1915, Greeks were still a plurality in much of what is now Western Turkey/European Turkey).

            I know it sounds outlandish. But I think in the future, you’ll see this happen, and it will “sharpen” the sides, West vs East.

          • GreenAlba November 1, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

            Interesting – thanks, S-D.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

      NATO= the West’s defense=the US wanting to avoid fighting in Europe anymore.

      BRICS++ is going to bring down NATO and the West by infiltration and capitulation. Israel and Ukraine are just the beginning.

      • reggiezz October 30, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

        Yes, for the past 34 years, there has only been one game in town – the American game. It’s so reflexive for our defense establishment that they’ve lost the ability to consider the unintended consequences of their actions. But times have changed. Hegemony is over.

        • Heartlander October 30, 2023 at 3:26 pm #

          For years, I’ve been amazed at the self-righteous cluelessness of our foreign-policy establishment. Their supposed job is to UNDERSTAND other nations and cultures, right? I mean, you can’t make policy to deal with things you don’t have some understanding of.

          But to the contrary, our State Dept. “experts” seem to actually take PRIDE in how LITTLE they know about anything outside U.S. borders — hell, anything outside the D.C. Beltway!

          They are the most small-minded, unimaginative, mentally lazy people on earth. They won’t even exercise a little human imagination to try to conceive of how other people, on the other side of the world, with completely different life experiences and value systems, might look at the world. Indeed, they appear to not even have any interest in learning.

          Crucially, since most of these snobbish morons in the State Dept. have no religious beliefs or community ties, they assume that nobody else does either. They idiotically deny the REALITY and the priority of religion and community for the majority of the world’s people.

          So, we repeatedly see huge world developments taking these boobs completely by surprise.

          • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 8:23 pm #


      • Tweedledum October 31, 2023 at 7:46 pm #

        I’m sure we’re all so glad that we now have BRICS++ to occupy ol’ JohnAZ, rather than hi previous, badly shop-worn tropes of Trump & ‘stupidification”.

    • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:36 pm #

      Erdogan likes to play both sides. He’s two-faced like that.

      He will have to make a decision once and for all, though, when the US tries to send warships through the Straits of Bosporus.

      Either he caves to the US, seriously damaging his relationships with Russia, or he upholds the Montreux Convention, seriously damaging his relationship with the US.

      Which will he pick?

  29. Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 11:38 am #

    That TV show that I have been watching sometimes, Servant of The People, has an episode where two of the corrupt oligarch types are having an argument and one calls the other “chosen person” as a pejorative.

    I think the mocking reference to God’s chosen people above demonstrates something that has a lot to do with people’s attitudes toward Jews in general than many people realize.

    There is a weird form of resentment, almost a form of sibling rivalry, against a group of people who call themselves chosen, and exclude others from their group.

    Yes I know, people can and do convert, but that was not always the case.

    How many other religions consider themselves “a people”?How many desire a theocratic homeland?

    Yes, I know about the Irish. The difference is Ireland is not the homeland of the Catholics.

    Jews are different, in that way, and a lot of the hatred directed toward them comes from that difference.

    • KesaAnna October 30, 2023 at 11:58 am #

      What annoys the shit out of me is that we lost Jerusalem , the West Bank , Gaza , and all that , 800 years ago.

      The sky sure is taking a long time to fall.

      So to keep the story going that the sky is going to fall in five minutes ,

      pretend the Book of Revelation isn’t a Catholic book , when it is ,

      and pretend the Bible mentions the United States , when it never does.

      • OG October 30, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

        Is America the New Babylon? | Matt Chandler


        2 minutes.

      • Groundhog October 30, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

        When the New Testament was being assembled into the official and authorized version, the Book of Revelation just barely made it in. Some church scholars didn’t want that book included. It’s basically a dream interpretation. Dreams can be notoriously difficult to understand and they can sometimes be legitimately interpreted in multiple and in differing ways.

        Your first sentence is puzzling. “We lost Jerusalem?” Who is “we”. What was lost? Are you writing about the Crusades?

        • KesaAnna October 30, 2023 at 12:41 pm #


          Myself ; Catholic Christian.

          These others running around crying the sky is going to fall ( and doing so pretty much my whole life ) ;

          Some hybrid identity I have never wholly fathomed.

      • Amman November 1, 2023 at 2:31 am #

        Peasantry, you never had it in the 1st place.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

      The theme of the USA is that diversity is good, that everyone is equal, that there is room for all.

      So where the hell is all the anti-semitism coming from?

      Or the white black hatred?

      Or the have, have not hatred?

      Is the real deal here that the US is a pipe dream held together by Wag the Dog mechanisms? Is that why, with no war to unite us, we are falling apart?

      I will bet Las Vegas is betting on BRICS++>

      • OG October 30, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

        BRICS is commodity-based. That is real money.

        US$ is fiat (and not even good for ass-wipe).

        The smart money will become commodity-based lest they lose it all one day.

        • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:43 pm #


          The really stupid thing is that the Deep State handed it to them on a silver platter.

          Ever think that the USA is no longer needed by the world and that the King of the mountain is about to be deposed?

          The really sickening part of it is that the King is destroying itself.

          The Deep State will continue to spend, spend, spend trying to control the electorate until something stops it.

          Whatever that will be.

          • Groundhog October 30, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

            “Whatever that will be.” – It ain’t no “whatever”. It’s farily simple to predict what will happen. They’ll spend spend spend and borrow borrow borrow until the dollar is completely and totally rejected worldwide as a very unstable and devaluing medium of exchange.

            Other nations selling us stuff will stop accepting dollars and demand some other type of currency for trade to happen. Once the dollar is good only for trade inside US borders the resulting chaos will put an end to all US activities abroad. Our bases everywhere else in the world will close and US troops will all be going home – the resources to support them will no longer exist with a broken and dead dollar. At some point everyone in the former USA begins to understand that it’s over – that there really is no more United States. Instead it’s a disorganized and disunitied collection of confused and individual states trying as best they can to keep a resemblence of civilized living continuing in North America.

            When travel ceases due to loss of access to motor fuels and communications break down, North America will become a huge place once again covering impossibly vast distances. Going to California might be the same grand adventure it was in the mid 1800’s. It could be an effort taking months and involving some physical peril and discomfort. Since future living conditions will be no better or even worse than south or central America, most all of the “illegal aliens” in North America will go back home to whatever country they left.

            The USA will end just as the old Soviet Union ended – and for a lot of the very same reasons – at least that’s Dimitri Orlov’s view of our future. We’ll know before too long if he has been correct in all his writings about the collapse of the West.

          • elysianfield October 30, 2023 at 6:11 pm #

            “Once the dollar is good only for trade inside US borders the resulting chaos will put an end to all US activities abroad. Our bases everywhere else in the world will close and US troops will all be going home – the resources to support them will no longer exist…”

            Do you feel that the US government has no other options to gather whatever wealth is needed, in whatever currency is in vogue, to conduct foreign trade? Food, energy, gold timber, minerals?

            Everything will be available, it will just cost more.

          • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 9:24 pm #

            Groundhog, elysianfield

            If the dollar unravels quickly, to your point, the resources to return US troops home may be in short supply.

            And that does not bode well for US troops left behind.

          • Anthea October 30, 2023 at 11:59 pm #

            @ elysianfield:

            Your question, “Do you feel that the US government has no other options to gather whatever wealth is needed, in whatever currency is in vogue, to conduct foreign trade?” got me to thinking–mainly about the US government’s survival, since, on the surface at least, that seems to depend on the survival of the currency.

            The death of a country’s currency isn’t exactly unprecedented, so we should be able to get a fair idea of what happens to the government after that. I don’t keep up on the state of affairs in Venezuela or Zimbabwe, but it looks like the governments of thoses places still exist. I don’t know what they’re running on–or, to put it another way, what they’re using to pay their cops and military or how they’re filling up the tank in the imperial sedan. If somebody here knows, I’d appreciate it if they’d tell us.

            I suppose one thing the government could do in that situation would be to “nationalize” any national resources or private enterprises and sell them to foreign nations for some foreign currency that still had value. That’s what I’d expect the US government to do, and that exactly what the government officials in the former USSR did.

            As for governments “conducting foreign trade,” the thing to remember here is that governments don’t conduct trade. Private enterprises conduct trade. Even when a nation’s currency becomes worthless, private individuals will find a way to conduct trade.

            I was watching a Martin Armstrong video awhile back, and he mentioned that Japan had no national currency–for literally 600 years. That was because, in earlier times, whenever a new emperor took over, he issued new currency and devalued the old currency to one-tenth its former value. After that happened a couple of times, the Japanese refused to accept Japanese coin–for 600 years. Instead, they used Chinese coins or bags of rice for currency.

          • Paula D October 31, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

            You can’t get foreign currency unless you sell something of value to that country, and they pay you with that currency.

            That is why the petrodollar has kept the US in charge of the world for the last 50 years.
            Every country in the world has had to sell their resources and/or labor to get dollars, so that they can buy oil.

            When that is gone, the US will have to sell something, and it no longer makes anything but weapons, and now the world knows those weapons suck.

            Anthea may be right, it’s down to the resources of the US.

            We already do export topsoil and water, in the form of alfalfa, wheat, soy and corn.
            That’s going to run out also, though,

          • Anthea October 31, 2023 at 10:30 pm #

            @ Paula D:

            I was thinking less in terms of corn, soybeans, alfalfa, wheat, and water, and more in terms of major industries, energy resources, mineral resources, and agricultural land. E.g., Zelensky has sold a lot of Ukrainian land to Monsanto, Blackstone, et al. I’m not sure what the former USSR sold off to the oligarchs.

            To me, it seems like we are witnessing (and living through) the deliberate destruction of the US by those who have an eye to asset-stripping it, as in the old USSR.

        • elysianfield October 31, 2023 at 1:52 am #

          Well…yes and no. Private enterprise conducts international trade, but at the sufferance of the government. The mechanism of payment, currently the dollar, will be converted to a mutually agreed upon fungible instrument. America still has incredible wealth.

          But the dollar, having lost reserve currency status, will float on the exchanges…daily variations can produce another level of uncertainty that can drive prices up. If the dollar tanks completely, exchanges will center around commodities.

        • D from OR October 31, 2023 at 10:55 am #

          “BRICS is commodity-based. That is real money.”

          The problem is there is no currency tied to their commodities.

          At this point they are just a brand.

          It will take time before they can create a currency and if they do it doesn’t mean it destroys other internal currencies with its existence.

          Things don’t work that way.

          So go ahead a wipe your ass with $USD but currently you can earn 5% on your savings. That’s why it isn’t going away anytime soon.

          Economics isn’t currency. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

        • Paula D November 1, 2023 at 11:43 am #

          Yes, Anthea, except that it started in the 80s, and was called “out-sourcing”.

          That is when the major industrial manufacturers moved to places with cheaper labor and no safety regulations.

          All that is left of our industrial capacity is old factories kept going with duct tape and worker ingenuity, as far as I know, and Wall Street is fond of asset stripping even those older enterprises.

          Like the NWO, proclaimed in 1991 by George H. W. Bush, but continually thought to be in the future, Americans tend to ignore the last 40 years, and think the plunder is all in the future.

          Stepping over the bodies of the homeless, and seeing the boarded-up storefronts on Main Street, and now the empty malls, should remind us all that the main looting has already been done.

          • Paula D November 1, 2023 at 11:46 am #

            That was for Anthea. Don’t know how it got here.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

        You believe that diversity is good? That everyone is equal? That there is room enough for all?

        Many do – the fools.

        Homogeneity, both racial and cultural, is the real strength.

        • malthuss October 30, 2023 at 4:58 pm #

          die veristy

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 3:44 pm #

            Did you pick that up from the kids in the sandbox earlier today?

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

          Genetic diversity can help protect a species from going extinct.

          Furthermore, biodiversity in general is where it’s at, otherwise, why not have just cooksonia on the entire face of the terrestrial landmass.

    • tuco22 October 30, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

      The Jews are God’s chosen people because of Abraham’s obedience, not because they’re special people.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

        No real Christian can believe that. The Jews that accepted Christ became the first Christians, the obedient of God. Christians are the Chosen People now.

        The Puritans believed they were the Chosen People. So it’s deep in American history. The Politically Correct believe that they are in an utterly perverse, secular way.

        White Nationalists (some of them) believe that Whites are because only Whites respect the Image of God inside themselves enough to believe in Freedom of Speech, etc.

        Is a real marriage forever? Or only until someone breaks the contract?

        • Anthea October 31, 2023 at 12:33 am #

          Well, according to scripture, Christianity is the New Covenant. I suppose a person could argue about whether the New Covenant voids the Old Covenant.

          As best I can figure out, the promises made by God to his people in the Old Covenant were that, if they would abide by his statutes, they would live long and prosper, presumably in Israel, and that they would prevail against their enemies.

          The New Covenant promises eternal life in heaven, to the faithful and humankind’s complete redemption from the Fall of Man. It doesn’t have much to say about worldly matters, beyond the expectation that they would be conducted in an honest, dutiful, and lawful way, and that generosity in our treatment of others in material matters would be paramount. (Basically, you still have to abide by the law as set forth in the Old Covenant.) The promised blessings are not necessarily material.

          What many people don’t realize is that Jews don’t believe in an afterlife–at all. (Maybe Orthodox Jews do, but I know that Conservative and Reform Jews don’t.) One reason people don’t realize this is that such a view is almost inconceivable to a Christian.

          There are conditions attached to both covenants. I can’t think of anything scriptural that would suggest that the Old Covenant is void–though, obviously, humans could break their side of the Covenant. It pertains only to worldly matters. The New Testament is pretty clear that obedience to the law is insufficient to attain eternal life in heaven–the idea being, I think, that no human could achieve perfect obedience to the law. Under the New Convenant, you can attain to the beatific vision in the afterlife. What that means is a level of happiness that is inconceivable to us humans. The afterlife itself is just a given, and failure to conform to the conditions of the New Covenant means that the afterlife could be unpleasant.

          • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

            No, really? Adultery voids a contract. The Prophets were passionate: Israel is the bride. Israel committed adultery by cheating with false gods.

            Christ extended the criticism deeper and wider. He said it was void. Do you believe him – even at the risk of being seen as “an anti-Semite”?

            The new wine (teachings) could not be contained in the old wine skin. It would split them. Thus, “Soon you will be expelled from the synagogues. And they will considering killing you a good deed.”

            A new wine skin or religion was needed, thus Christianity.

            Mohammad agreed with much of this btw, Christ being considered a great prophet in Islam. No people were favored by God as much as the Jews were. All people get a prophet or two, but they had gotten so many! What did they do with what they had received? Did they become a light unto the nations?

      • Zoltar November 2, 2023 at 9:41 am #

        God created us all, but chose the Jews because one man was willing to sacrifice his child a couple of millennia ago?: Stupidest myth ever. Tell me the one about the Tooth Fairy.

  30. The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

    benr’s Abused-Fetus Anarchy

    The Man They Call Zazelle October 29, 2023 at 3:20 pm:

    Somalia and Afghanistan are not in relative anarchy. So let’s not misrepresent them, shall we?

    In fact, their State names you use says it all.

    Anarchy doesn’t preclude gov’ts, BTW, just illegitimate/non-consentual ones.

    benr October 29, 2023 at 4:09 pm:

    They are both in complete Anarchy!

    The Man They Call Zazelle October 29, 2023 at 4:53 pm:

    benr, that’s the doublespeak version of anarchy.

    benr October 29, 2023 at 8:50 pm:

    No it really is not.

    Both countries are the definition of utter and complete Anarchy.
    Not mincing words not engaged in double speak.


    Let’s be fair about this.

    The ‘inverted totalitarian’ American empire just pulled out and apparently it was a bad pull-out.

    If it’s ‘anarchy’ it’s a very initial form after a years-long corrupt-State occupation and therefore ‘distorted’ or ‘doublespoken-by-example’.

    If it’s anarchy, it’s aroundabout fetal or infant in its development and injured by the State to boot.

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    • benr October 31, 2023 at 7:34 am #

      Neither country has ever had a functioning government and has always been a series of warlords ruling over clans and at war with everyone for control IE complete anarchy.
      Are you so obtuse you don’t understand this?

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

        ‘Ruling warlords’ is not anarchy. Are you so obtuse you don’t understand this?

        • benr October 31, 2023 at 6:02 pm #

          its the very definition of anarchy.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 2, 2023 at 8:26 pm #

            Looks like the State really did a number on you.

  31. AmericanObserver October 30, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

    When India left the British empire post WWII, the Indians had the sense to know that their large Muslim population was incompatible. Thus Pakistan was created, and while the two countries are antagonistic they haven’t started WWIII over it, and both countries have nuclear weapons.

    Two state solution is the only answer. Two separate nations free to fuck up at their own discretion.

    • elysianfield October 30, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

      “Thus Pakistan was created, and while the two countries are antagonistic they haven’t started WWIII over it, and both countries have nuclear weapons.”

      I would suggest that they haven’t started WWIII BECAUSE they both have nuclear weapons.

      • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

        China and India have an agreement not to use lethal weapons on their disputed border.

        Do you remember a couple of years ago, when tensions rose, and fighting commenced, and the mighty armies of China and India were throwing rocks at each other?

        Einstein predicted that.

        • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 7:15 pm #

          And the last major Sino-India war was in 1962. Several thousand dead, China won, but they used a lot of restraint, just being aggressive enough for India to wave the white flag.

          Nehru was castigated internally for weakness, then both sides hashed out a few different lines on the map, and that was that.

          • benr October 31, 2023 at 7:43 am #

            Naw they are still fighting and throwing each other off cliffs.
            I’m rooting for India.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 10:54 pm #

          No Paula, you got it wrong. He meant that for after nuclear war.

          But yes, their respect for International Law is amazing.

          • Paula D October 31, 2023 at 5:29 pm #

            I said that for ElsyianFields, and his theory that everybody having nuclear weapons is the path to peace.

            Obviously, China and India skipped the using the nukes part, and that is a good thing.

          • Jarek November 1, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

            Albert Einstein, one of the greatest physicists of all time, once said, “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” This quote dates back to the 1940s, when the first nuclear weapons were being developed.02 Einstein regretted the letter he wrote to President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1947, stating that he would never have lifted a finger if he had known that the Nazis would not succeed in producing an atomic bomb. Six years later, the bombs known as Little Man and Fat Boy were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, which accelerated the end of the Second World War but presaged the Cold War that dominated the latter half of the 20th century.1

            Jarek: Yes, you were talking to Ely about Einstein. You got the Einstein part wrong, probably at least. Einstein seems to be talking about nuclear weapons, though he avoids saying so.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

      A State is rarely if ever a solution.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 4:36 pm #

      Usually, the State is a problem looking for a solution.

      Like Israel.

    • benr October 31, 2023 at 7:41 am #

      The real problem Jordan WAS created to take the few ethnic Arab Muslims who were living in the area when Israel was partitioned.
      That two state solution was already done, and a Hashemite king was set over them.
      Everyone just ignores this simple fact.
      The other reality with Pakistan and India in this the Hindu majority was sick and tired of hundreds of years of Muslims murdering hundreds of millions of Hindus and was busy fighting back. They were now doing to Muslims exactly what Muslims had been doing to them.
      Both sides fled across the respective borders knowing if they did not, they would likely be rooted out and murdered.

  32. Billy Hill October 30, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

    Has anyone read or heard explanations of the “intelligence failure” in light of the various warnings? Could it be that Hamas was that competent in maintaining operational security? I can understand how a well-conceived and coordinated attack could overwhelm the IDF in immediate range of the border. And apparently the IDF admits to both underestimating their adversary and to deficiencies in the depth of their defenses. So maybe Hamas was in fact that competent — although where did the Egyptians get their information?

    Given the timing of the attack — with all the diplomatic activity surrounding the Abraham accords, the rapproachment between Israel and the Saudis, the Saudi-Iran opening, Jake Sullivan declaring the region to be the most peaceful in 20 years (!) — one concludes that some entity wanted a different course of events. Clearly the Palestinians were the odd man out in all the above so perhaps Hamas realizing this decided to act on their own. Except for the fact that planning and logistics would have been in place for some time prior.

    Tom Luongo’s latest podcast deals with the geopolitical architecture. No answers, just questions. The guest cited an as yet unverified assertion that a mother (a member of parliament) called her daughter at the rave on the day before the chaos to say “get out of there now an attack is coming.” Speaking of the rave, Larry Johnson noted that these types of event typically do not announce their location until a day or two before (this general rule has been verified). And the rave camped itself in the vicinity of the Kibbutz, which being armed, constituted a de facto military target. So as the paragliders descended they had an “oh shit!” moment when they landed in the midst of drugged revelry and wonderment.

    Who knows? The question always remains: cui bono? Certainly not the Gazans themselves. Nor for that matter the Israelis — including the Likud types as well as of course those who are not on board with the Netanyahu way. AIPAC? Some deep differences have been revealed given the predictable reactions from the Ackmans and the Coopermans to the student protests. At least now the students know who is really in charge. Especially as politicians both Red and Blue stumble over themselves vying for the “Who is Most Pro-Israel” prize. (Nikki Haley has a commanding lead.) If CFN is any guide there is zero common ground.

    So add another fissure to the pile. But back to cui bono. To think there are not malevolent interests at work in the world, that it’s all conspiracy nonsense is as much an act of faith as believing the Warren Commission Report — particularly in light of the on-going attempt to kill as many humans as possible on behalf of the public health systems.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

      Speaking of conspiracy nonsense, Scott Adams was being ridiculed for his bizarre theories about the shooter in Maine the other day. He made a prediction that the shooter’s body would be found near a dumpster.

      This was from Adams on the 28th:

      Me yesterday: “His body will be found near a dumpster.”


      • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

        What made him think that?

      • Night Owl October 30, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

        Scott Adams should never recover from his Covid days.

        Guy is horrible.

        • OG October 30, 2023 at 6:56 pm #

          Scott Adams tells it like it is. The guy pulls no punches. No holds barred.

          He is not always right but he is always thought-provoking and entertaining.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 10:47 pm #

          Because he told the truth about American Blacks?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 12:01 am #

            American ‘blacks’ with ‘white’ in them you mean?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 12:02 am #

            Those kinds of the other kinds?

          • Night Owl October 31, 2023 at 5:16 am #

            Ofc not, Jarek. That is something you would come up with. Low brow.

            It is rather because he was a vehmenent clot-shot fascist, but then pretended it was all a game and us “truthers” just got lucky when we chose not to take it.

            All a big game for some kind of perceived clout. Because that is all Scott Adams actually cares about.

            He pisses on morality and freedom when he thinks he benefits.

          • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

            Zilch: So you’re saying that Adams didn’t talk about the report that 49% of American Blacks don’t think it’s “ok” to be White?

            But he did. You’re losing your tenuous hold on reality there, buddy.

          • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

            Za: Do German Shepherds exist? Or does that offend you too?

            If so, why?

            Einstein loved unity so much that he used the same soap to shave and wash with. Perhaps you are infected by some similar species of monism?

            It’s a strange universalism that hates particularities, is it not?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 5:25 pm #

            As a white-haired poodle, Jarek, you might have some attributes more in common with other dogs than poodles.

            Maybe you even have a few patches of black hair here and there that you keep scratching at with your hind leg. Maybe the skin underneath isn’t quite white either.

            There are some other questions in these threads that you’ve dodged, but of course we both know that sometimes no answer is an answer, right?

          • Night Owl October 31, 2023 at 6:26 pm #

            Jarek has now lost any ability to remain composed.

            And it is hilarious.

          • Jarek November 1, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

            Za: So the only breed of dog is the dog breed of dog?

            Zilch: Where are you on Turkish Germans now?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 3:33 pm #

            Jarek, let’s not be obtuse.

            We can slice and dice you up practically any which way, maybe to place you in some dank Government human breeding program category somewhere.

            Kindly pull your head out of your ass unless that is your category you want for yourself and you like to demo it for all to read.

  33. JC Penny October 30, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

    Fog… hmmm… I use the axiom that if the press doesn’t talk about it then you know what it is (think “a crowd of young people” flash-looting.)

    In this case, the press is barely interested in dead or captured Americans nor the airbridge underway to bolster “defenses” of our temporary bases that have been there for 20 years. I wager they are laying in offensive capability.

    Me thinks Joe is going to fuck this one up too.

  34. Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

    Suppose the Jews were to abandon their ‘homeland’, and return to their original homes (according to a narrative) in Europe.

    Has anyone noticed that their original European territory just so happens to be awash in Muslims?

    Are those Muslims to be “resettled” back where they came from?

    I seems to me that there is plenty of “clashing” going on without the excuses of “Israel” and “open air prisons” to fall back on.

    • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

      I think it would be an epic troll if the Jews did go back, mostly to the US and Russia, at this point. I think most of the immigration in the last decades were from those two places.

      Let those 5 million Palestinians “return” to the homes of their ancestors, those 250,000 people who were eking out a living back in 1948, and we’ll see how they peacefully work out who gets what.

      Meanwhile, the Jews who left are safe in the US or Russia.

      Or maybe the plan really is to depopulate Ukraine for them, instead of Cargill and Monsanto. It really is looking like it at this point.
      Either way, it’s a way out of Israel.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

        Give the Jews Massachusetts. We won’t miss it.

        Or maybe Connecticut. Isn’t Connecticut the international measurement for the size of a country anyway? It may as well become a foreign country.

        Offer any Indians left in Connecticutt, Massachusetts instead. The Obamas will have to move out.

        • beantownbill. October 30, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

          To get the Obamas out may make it all worthwhile! Lol.

        • stelmosfire October 30, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

          “Give the Jews Massachusetts. ”
          I’ll go along with that. Better than the assholes we have now.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

      Continuing on, should the Europeans that settled the Western Hemisphere go back to Europe and give the keys to the Native Americans?

      How about we just let the winner take all here?

      • Opie October 30, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

        Apples and oranges. After our wars of conquest, we set up reservations, but individual Indians could and did leave the res for greener pastures. There was prejudice, but overall we did a decent job of assuring rights. That’s not the case in the disputed territories before 10/7, and certainly is not going to be the case here on out. BTW, as a 16% native American I qualify with my tribe for membership, but I’m a white dude raised and taught. If I declared war war with my tribe to regain land because the great spirit said it was ours, I would be in a converted Jews position with regards to land in dispute. I’m not about to dispute who’s right or wrong, that’s for those there now to decide, just please leave me and my country out of it.

    • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

      West Asia doesn’t belong to Islam; not too long ago a good percentage of Syria, Lebanon & Jordan was Christian. Christian’s were driven out, a process that is going on in Pakistan right now. Let’s hope Israelis are made of tougher stuff than Christians in the Levant and Boers & Afrikaners in SAfrica.

      • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 9:44 pm #

        The Christians of the Middle East are persecuted and even killed for their beliefs every day.

        There is still good percentage of the population in Lebanon and Syria that is Christian.

        In Iraq, thank to the US toppling the “evil Saddam” (yes, he was bad, but he kept a lid on the pot, and did not single out Christians for execution–only his enemies. His famous foreign minister, Tariq Aziz was Christian), the Iraqi Christian population has been decimated. Killed by fundamentalist Moslems, or fleeing.

        If the US had succeeded in toppling Assad in Syria, the Christians there would have the same fate.

        In Israel/Palestine, Hamas is hostile to Christian Palestinians (so many have left Gaza), and in the West Bank and Jerusalem, Israel harasses them.

        The Christians of the middle East will have eternal life, but in this world, they will continue to suffer, until God intervenes.

  35. Paula D October 30, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

    Our host has changed since Friday, but I haven’t.

    Paula D– That is not so. Dunno where you got that impression. My position remains as it was Friday. –JHK-Admin

    On Friday he said that Israel should stop bombing Gaza and switch to going after the actual terrorists responsible for the atrocities on Oct. 7th.
    I agree with that.

    Bombing women and children is a bad look, as well as a war crime. If your only response to world outrage is to double down, you’re going to lose everything.

    The rational Jews in Israel are being out-bred by the radical crazies, just like the rational Muslims are being out-bred by the fundamentalists.
    And, truthfully, rational Americans are being out-bred by the “quiver-full” Christians, who are deliberately producing large families with the stated goal of overcoming, and possibly killing, those who don’t go along with their agenda.

    What do all these have in common? We know that the US and UK sponsored and promoted the Muslim Brotherhood, and then al Qaeda and ISIS, in order to push their imperial goals.

    But at the same time, in the 70s, people like James Dobson were suddenly flush with cash, and being pushed onto the population the way the trannies are now.
    I remember my own sister going to Huntington Beach, a public beach, to hear giant rock concerts pushing Jesus, in the 70s.
    Where did they get the permits?
    Where did they get the money?
    And you couldn’t go anywhere without being accosted by young proselytizers. Remember the Jesus Freaks? Who paid them?

    Have you ever seen the massive evangelical churches? They cater to the poor, but they have infinite resources to do so.
    Where do they get the money?

    And the Jews, imo, went through some sort of similar process. The newest settlers, (by all accounts, really nasty people), are the ones breeding like Palestinians, and pushing themselves onto Palestinian land and into their homes, backed by the IDF.
    According to an Israeli journalist I saw, the IDF was pulled from the Gazan border to protect one nasty fundamentalist member of the Knesset, who had moved into a Palestinian town in the West Bank, and felt threatened by the people there.
    Where did this movement come from? Where did the money come from that pushes it?
    Why are so many of them from the USA?

    Israel only has 7 million Jews. If the secular, rational ones are outbred by the fundamentalists, they have lost their country anyway.

    Netanyahu is a symbol of that.

    It looks to me as if there was a world-wide effort, ramping up in the 70s, to turn a certain percentage of each religion into frothing, hateful people,, capable of justifying, and carrying out, mass murder, based on religion.

    Let us not forget the Hindus in India, who burned a trainload of Muslims to death, in one of many atrocities. How were they turned into vicious murderers?

    Let us not forget that the Afghans and Pakistanis were turned into hate-filled terrorists, with the help of the University of Nebraska, who provided the textbooks for young boys in madrassas.

    This has been a decades long agenda to divide and conquer, imo.

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    • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

      My child’s elementary school in the 80s was showing James Dobson to the public.
      Why? To me, pushing fundamentalist Christianity in public schools is like pushing drag queens now.

      Also, a traveling library that came to my grandmother’s tiny town in Utah, where only Mormons lived, carried the entire selection of James Dobson books in their truck.


      There was clearly an agenda, and big money and power behind the agenda.

      • KesaAnna October 30, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

        I was gonna say ,

        no , those are the people with the biggest megaphones.

        And where did they get the money for the big megaphones ?

        But you apparently already said all of that.

        ” To me, pushing fundamentalist Christianity in public schools is like pushing drag queens now. ”

        Lol , believe it or not I have thought much the same myself before.

        • KesaAnna October 30, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

          — With the priviso that if Fundamentalist Christians , or Drag Queens for that matter , want to set up their own schools I’m all for it.

          The permanent , never – ending problem of public schools is they are always run by politicians.

          And I doubt , as I said above , that you really need any more evidence that politics attracts the very worst people.

          • Groundhog October 30, 2023 at 2:03 pm #

            My experiences in public school were very bad. I did spend some years in Catholic school so I was able to compare. I discovered that the 50’s version of Cath school was far superior to and ahead of what public education had to offer. Of course Catholic schools supported the views of the Catholic Church – what else would one expect? In similar manner the public schools promoted their own and different set of values and expectations. Instead of supporting Catholic values and faith in God the public schools supported secular values and faith in government. It was the institution of government that was to be worshipped and that us kids were to have faith in.

            In public school we’d stand up first thing in the morning and each day we’d stand up and robotically recite the Pledge Allegiance to the Flag. We’d start out each day by verbally worshipping the state with hand over hearts. Not so in Catholic school. We instead recited prayers and said some Hail Mary’s. The Pledge to the Flag was done last.

            Cath school was sorta letting us kids know where the priorities were. God and Roman Catholicism came first – allegiance to the state second. It’s just common sense really when it gets down to it. Nations and states are by historical record unstable and some don’t last very long. The average age of a republic is 250 years. The histories of nations are recorded in terms of centuries. The Catholic Church has outlasted most all of them and we look at that institution now almost in terms of millenia, not centuries. Why should relatively short lived countries have earned the right to be first in line as to being important when educating children the Catholic way?

          • Beryl of Oyl October 30, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

            Catholic schools came about because the public schools taught religion contrary to their faith.

            The Supreme Court ruled that public schools could not sponsor prayer or require bible-reading. There may have been public schools that had already stopped doing so, but basically they were forced to drop religious teaching and prayer.

            This is something that was often blamed on The Joos, but it was organized atheists who brought it about.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 2:37 pm #

          Drag Queens/Christianity – same thing. Grotesque as always, Paula.

          • benr October 31, 2023 at 7:52 am #

            Yep, idiocy since they are diametrically opposed.

      • Heartlander October 30, 2023 at 3:47 pm #

        Paula D wrote:

        “rational Americans are being out-bred by the ‘quiver-full’ Christians, who are deliberately producing large families with the stated goal of overcoming, and possibly killing, those who don’t go along with their agenda.”

        What a horrid, hateful thing to say. I am appalled.

        I know a number of large, happy Catholic families, who have more children than most (selfish, fearful, creature-comfort-addicted) Americans do, simply because they love God and do not close themselves off to His gift of life. They live frugally — big gardens; hand-me-down or home-sewn clothes; eschewing restaurants, Netflix and amusement parks, etc. — and instead play games, play musical instruments, have picnics in public (free) parks, etc., and are happier and healthier than most folks I know.

        They are already living the way all of us will be in “a world made by hand” — they’re just doing it because raising a generous number of children on one income so a parent can stay home requires frugality, which means creativity and resourcefulness.

        They are not trying to “outbreed” anyone, and they certainly have no supremacy notions. Needless to say, the thought of killing other people has certainly never entered their minds.

        I pity you for what a cramped experience of the world you must have had for you to project such outlandish and hideous things onto good, decent, loving people.

        • Heartlander October 30, 2023 at 3:56 pm #

          And by the way, all these families I’m talking about are also very involved in serving theirocal communities. They’re the furthest thing from insular or self-centered.

          • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 7:33 pm #

            Depends who’s having the kids on whether it’s good or not.

            CHUMP MAN BLUES
            (Blind Blake)

            I’m goin’ to the river, take a great big jump
            Goin’ to the river, take a great big jump
            I used to be a wise man, but a woman made me a chump

            It sure is funny how hard a man can fall
            It sure is funny how hard a man can fall
            When he gets to thinkin’ one woman has got it all

            My baby throwed me out and I start walkin’ down the track
            My baby throwed me out and I start walkin’ down the track
            Then I went home and begged her to take me back

            She ain’t no good, but I can’t quit her somehow
            She ain’t no good, but I can’t quit her somehow
            I used to be a wise cat but this woman has turned me out

            She don’t act sweet, she’s the mean and naggin’ kind
            She don’t act sweet, she’s the mean and naggin’ kind
            She got a new quiver, make a drunk man lose his mind

          • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

            Meant to go under Jarek’s comment below.

        • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:58 pm #

          I guess you don’t know any quiverfull people. They aren’t Catholics, they are fundamentalist Christians. My life isn’t “cramped”, I know some of them very well.

          It isn’t “hateful” to describe a real movement. And when I went to find an article to educate you, I found that, just as I said above, this started in the 80s.

          “The term “Quiverfull” as a description of fundamentalist evangelical Christians with a particular set of beliefs only began in the 1980s”.


          • Night Owl October 31, 2023 at 5:18 am #

            Paula likes to put people in boxes with word wizardry.

        • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 4:00 pm #

          ””The womb is such a powerful weapon; it’s a weapon against the enemy,”……….Nancy Campbell………….

          Quiverfull takes its name from Psalm 127, which states: “Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons born in one’s youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them.” Campbell and other members of the movement encourage families to have as many “arrows,” or children, as is physically possible”.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 6:22 pm #

          Yes, women used to proud of how many children they had. Fathers too. Muslims are still this way.

          Paula don’t know shit.

          • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 9:58 pm #

            Yes, women used to [fill in correct word here] proud of how many children they had. – Jar

        • benr October 31, 2023 at 7:53 am #

          Just ignore Paula she is a communist agitator.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

      One word, Paula.

      Ethnocentrism Believe as I do, or I will kill you.

      The basis of every religion except Judeo-Christian dogma. Dogma, not practice.

      Jesus peached equality for all, the Samaritan parables, and John Locke formed the basis for “all men are created equal”

      It just does not work. Ethnocentrism is an “instinct” in the human animal.

      And it is getting worse.

      Power and ethnocentrism, the opening forces of the “last Days”.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 2:40 pm #

        The Antichrist will preach Peace and back it up with War for those who don’t like Peace; who don’t like being made to live with incompatible people. I assume Christ knew this. I assume He has a problem with how his teachings were spread too.

      • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 3:52 pm #

        The majority of Jews, Christians, Muslims and Hindus are decent people.
        They may believe their religion is the best, but they are willing to tolerate other people, wrong as they may be.
        Live and let live.

        The 50 year rise of fundamentalist religions has got to be sponsored, imo. It’s too organized, too coddled, and too expensive to be spontaneous.

        And there has to be a reason to turn normal people into fanatics ready to kill.
        Same as BLM and CRT and the trannie cult, imo.

        Self righteous people, convinced of their higher beliefs, ready to kill any heretic.

        To me they’re all the same, only their particular beliefs are different.

        • Night Owl October 31, 2023 at 5:20 am #

          Sounds like you, TBH.

        • CrusherMuldoon October 31, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

          Take a course in Apologetics and your opinion of Judeo-Christian thought might change

      • Night Owl October 30, 2023 at 4:58 pm #

        Every religion, John?

        I dunno.

        • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 7:43 pm #

          Indeed. The monotheistic religions are a lot higher on the bellicosity index than other religions.

          Paula makes a false equivalence, and John needs a comparative (rather, contrasting) overview course on world religions.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 9:53 pm #

        Like a forced (mandated) State government school curruculum, it seems a bit of a mindfuck to exist with the fusing of a religion with a group, even by some implication, some of its common DNA. But what do I know?

        But it does tie in neatly with my comments elsewhere in these threads targeted at Jarek’s white-black dichotomy and my exploding races- entitled comment.

        What do you think, Jarek? Am I onto something?

        A ‘race’ whose individuals smoke, bite their nails, consume coffee and hold some kind of common religious belief, irrespective of skin color.

        Perhaps in a few million years, the Sikhs will begin to develop turban-shaped heads and/or extra blood vessels in the head area for better blood circulation related to cooling.

  36. tinfoilhatted Canuck October 30, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

    Well, being a big fan of Jim’s for many years, colour me disappointed as he seems to be solidly in the support camp of Zionist Israel.

    Canuck– Want to bring back the good old days of the Levant? Bring back the Ottoman Turks to run the whole shooting match and oppress all the other Muslims there. Fixed it for ya. — JHK-Admin

    When the chips are down, America and Americans are solidly behind an Empire created state that has been displacing and killing Palestinians for decades.

    Yes, Hamas killing innocents is morally repugnant, regardless of rationalized justification.

    But the exponentially greater response is beyond the pale. With a population laden with children unable to seek shelter and facing block eradicating bombs, as Caitlin Johnson notes, there is just no way to spin that genocidal behaviour as justified.

    Imo, Jim has come down on the wrong side of history and this undermines his previous support for injustices at home and abroad.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

      There is no such thing as a nice war.

      Period. It is survival of the fittest. The world hates an Israel that can take care of itself.

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 4:50 pm #

        Trouble is, they can’t. Hence American carrier groups and more.

        • King of Comedy October 30, 2023 at 5:55 pm #

          I seem to recall ‘67 and ‘73 when the Arabs, backed by the Soviets in the Cold War thingie, fighting with Soviet weapons and equipment and outnumbering the Israelis at least 2 to 1 took ass-kickings both times.

          I seem to recall ‘47 before Israel was backed by anybody, the Arab armies losing again.

          It’s a shame that the IDF is not compromised exclusively of old women and babies… then the Arabs might have a chance.

          • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 7:06 pm #

            Have you checked the calendar lately? We’re in the 21st century now. Do try to keep up.

          • King of Comedy October 30, 2023 at 7:32 pm #

            I know, this time will be different because the Jihadis are super-duper oppressed and Zionism and apartheid and all. Just you wait and see.

          • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 10:12 pm #

            the IDF is not compromised exclusively of old women and babies – K of C



    • JC Penny October 30, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

      “…exponentially greater response…” You are obviously better at histrionics than math, ay.

      It is generally accepted that any response to an assault be stronger than the initiating assault so as to dissuade the attacker from continuing. Unless you think firing your CCW to fend off a guy that just stabbed you is unfair.

      Geometrically greater response is a more likely truth.

      Even then, any body count provided by Al Jazeera for copy-paste to the NYT is little better than a random number generator.

      • OG October 30, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

        Even then, any body count provided by Al Jazeera for copy-paste to the NYT is little better than a random number generator.

        That reminds me of Vegas Turkey-Shoot Incident Commander [whatever the flip that is!], FBI grad, Maui PD Chief/coroner John Pelletier’s Lahaina 8/8 official death toll of 99.

        Sheer bullshit.

        • JC Penny October 30, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

          Yup. If only the sheer bullshit didn’t have a coefficient of friction exponentially greater than that of the truth.

          (See: If ignorance is bliss, wisdom is true folly; and, easier to fool a man than convince him he’s been fooled).

    • Nigel Tufnel October 30, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

      Check out the Hamas charter. The goal of Islam is not peaceful co-existence, the goal is to wipe out All non Islamics and create a world where only they survive.
      Plus Palestine has been lobbing rockets at Israel for years, sabotaging any attempt at peace talks. Hamas has placed their extensive tunnel system under schools and hospitals on purpose.

      • benr October 31, 2023 at 8:05 am #

        I can one up you simply read the quran if you can actually get through it.
        Then understand the abrogation system in place and how later verses override earlier ones and the later verses are always the more violent ones.

    • tinfoilhatted Canuck October 30, 2023 at 2:57 pm #


      I’m not sure, but it sounds like you are arguing for the lesser evil here.

      Were the Ottomans nasty overlords? Undoubtedly.

      However, it is quite the turnaround for the ultimate victims of Hitlers Final Solution to becoming themselves the purveyor of the Palestinians Final Solution.

      Might does not make ( moral ) right in my worldview.

      That and “power corrupts” goes a long way to explaining historical injustices — and seems particularly relevant to the US and Israeli view of their place on this earth.

      But what do I know.

      Thanks for the opportunity to voice a dissident opinion Jim.

      • King of Comedy October 30, 2023 at 5:45 pm #

        For the millionth time, you can’t claim a genocide happened when a population increased fivefold (e.g., the Palestinians).

        Genocides make populations go down, not up. This has been a public service announcement.

        • tinfoilhatted Canuck October 30, 2023 at 8:35 pm #

          Ok King, noted.

          Guess we will have to wait while it happens.

          Hopefully the rabid sounding politicians are just ramping up the fervour and are happy with only a few 10s of thousands of children murdered.

        • OG October 30, 2023 at 8:42 pm #

          What, then, do we call it when you start with one million, two million are born and 1 million are murdered?

          1 + 2 – 1 = 2

          We started with 1 and now have 2 so the mil slaughtered, according to you, is not genocide. What is it?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 10:01 pm #

            It was just King’s comedy.

          • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 10:25 pm #

            the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

            Genocide does not require killing ALL, just a large number.

          • benr October 31, 2023 at 8:09 am #

            I call bullshit since the actual murders might even be rained down upon the residents by their own “freedom fighters” just as easily as anyone else.
            While we are harping on this these people live in a state of barbarism and are quick to attack each other don’t have the best health care systems, sanitation, water, power and food systems.

          • King of Comedy November 1, 2023 at 8:14 am #

            What is it? Something that has never happened in the history of genocide. Not a lot of babies being born on the Anatolian plains in 1915 or in Cambodia in 1974, for instance.

          • Paula D November 1, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

            A million?

            “At least 19,199 Palestinians and 2,746 Israelis have been killed by someone from the other side since 2000.:


            Meanwhile, 2,000,000 more Palestinians were born.

            Two million born, nineteen thousand die.
            Genocide is not anywhere near the correct term.


          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 3:48 pm #

            I wonder if a people can be killed in an embedded sense where they’re still kept alive and if that might still fall under the definition of genocide.

            Apparently, women have babies in prison.

  37. John K October 30, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

    JHK should invite Norman Finkelstein onto his podcast, the guy who spent 40 years studying this conflict. That would be a salty episode.

    • Opie October 30, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

      What an interesting notion, perhaps one with Philip Giraldi as well.

    • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 7:04 pm #

      Just read up on this guy. Whoo boy, wouldn’t that be an exchange! And he’s a Jew too, so no falling back to the old “antisemite” thought stopper. The Israeli’s, understandably, hate the guy.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 11:31 pm #

      That would be great.

  38. Hardrock October 30, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

    A thought such as: the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel.

    If this is true, why do those promoting this idea not give equal weight to every other displaced demographic forced to yield over the past 2,000 years? The people who crossed the Bering land bridge 15-20,000 years ago get all of the Americas, right?

    This will never end.

    • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

      They may have wipe out the Cro-Magnon Whites who came over on the ice before them. Or at least the men if you know what I mean.

      • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 10:29 pm #


        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 31, 2023 at 10:20 am #

          Correcting Jarek, or giving us an update?

          • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

            Thank you. I was trying to tie it in, but it couldn’t pull it together.

  39. MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 30, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

    We have plenty of reason to worry that US towns and cities could be the next target,

    The embedding is strong in the US, including in some unexpected Midwestern sleepy hollows, many without skyscrapers. Peaceful can turn violent at any time. Perhaps the word just has to be given to a small faction.

    The assumption is that there has been no reason to do so. But they are creating that reason before our eyes.

    They are now giving us pause to wonder about that guy at the next gas pump who looks at you funny. Not the America we grew up in.

    Live on as normal, but (as should always be the case), keep your damn eyes open on your surroundings. Weird times may come, or they may vaporize in the next news cycle.

  40. beantownbill. October 30, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

    Grr! I made a personal vow to not comment about Jews, Israel, Arabs and so forth. After all, the reality is that every day I go about my own business, do pretty much what I want, and none of this has affected me at present.

    I’m trying to live in this present and not worry about what the future will bring, which hasn’t happened yet. After all, that asteroid out there in the Kuiper Belt that has just dislodged itself and is heading toward the inner solar system is still an unknown. Why worry?

    I’m very tired of being angry, so I’m trying hard not to be. But it ain’t easy!

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    • malthuss October 30, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

      Biden wants to protect Israel but destroy the USA.
      Trump too is all for Israel.

      • Rooftop Observer October 30, 2023 at 10:48 pm #

        Please explain how Joe Biden “wants to…destroy the USA.” It’s the same old tired right-wing talking points bullshit. “The border! The vaccine! The trannies!!!!” Utter crap.

        How is Biden destroying the USA when the following economic FACTS currently prevail?

        Since 20/1/2021:

        > 13.9 million new jobs – of which some 800K are in manufacturing
        > GDP growth currently of 4.9% (Trump’s ‘greatest economy ever’ saw an average of 2.5% and 6.5 million jobs)
        > Inflation is down to 2.4% and still falling.

        The US is by far the best-performing economy on the planet. That’s quite a lot of “destroying America” he’s getting away with, fer shure.

        • Anthea October 31, 2023 at 1:13 am #

          @ Rooftop Observer:

          Listening to liberal narratives is like listening to someone tell you what they dreamed last night.

          • Rooftop Observer October 31, 2023 at 7:14 pm #

            @ Anthea & the squiggly little benr:

            “Facts is facts, ma’am…” While you poor deluded souls get lost in identity politics, believe that Drumpf is a brilliant businessman and always tells the truth, that everything was better when he was lounging around the White House like a beached whale and spent the rest of his time cheating at golf, in the meantime, the rest of the planet can see the truth of it all. These prosecutions, now well underway, will put the lie to it all. Perhaps, one day, you will see the facts for what they are, not for what The Orange Whale tells you and which you absolutely believe in your cultish playpen.

            It’s going to be so delicious when Judge Engoron strips Trump & his clownish children of all their privileges and properties. It’s a story as old as time itself – rags to riches to rags in three generations. Losers follow losers, I guess.

        • benr October 31, 2023 at 8:18 am #


          Sniff sniff can you smell the bullshit?

        • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

          Rooftop Koreans: Good
          Rooftop Observer: Mashed Potatoes

          • Rooftop Observer October 31, 2023 at 7:17 pm #

            Who doesn’t love Mashed Potatoes?

    • Nigel Tufnel October 30, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

      They welcome your exhaustion and your compliance and your wish to be left alone. The problem is that they are feeding on your tax dollars.

      • malthuss October 30, 2023 at 5:01 pm #

        breeding–fixed that..both sides breeding like rats.

    • Rowdypiglet October 30, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

      I conduct my life on the assumption that there is an immaterial world from which we came and to which we return, and that there are higher powers to which we’re ultimately answerable.

      I don’t think we’re meant to solve these seemingly impossible and unsolvable situations. We’re meant to try to live in a cruel and unfair world in as honest, useful, kind and honorable way as we’re able. It’s, as my mother used to say, not a game you can win but, rather, a test of character.

      Perhaps my perception is entirely wrong (though obviously I don’t think so), but it works well as a template for the effort to lead a moral life.

      • OG October 30, 2023 at 3:47 pm #

        I think that you (and your mother) are right.

      • Rooftop Observer October 30, 2023 at 10:40 pm #

        “I don’t think we’re meant to solve these seemingly impossible and unsolvable situations. We’re meant to try to live in a cruel and unfair world in as honest, useful, kind and honorable way as we’re able. It’s, as my mother used to say, not a game you can win but, rather, a test of character.”

        That is, to my mind, a sensible way to react to those things over which we have no personal control. Thank you.

  41. Cavepainter October 30, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

    How has it come about that atavism, by group or individual, has been anointed to victimhood? Could there be some political machination at play?

  42. Nigel Tufnel October 30, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

    One reason Gaza is so overcrowded is that the Palestinian birth rate is among the highest on the planet… by design. The Hamas charter states that the role of women is one thing only – to produce and raise as many males as possible, (while living inside a burka.) I wonder whether the feminist libtards even know that. Or that the goal of Islam is the annihilation of all who are not islamic.

    • Hardrock October 30, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

      Or that the goal of Islam is the annihilation of all who are not islamic.

      Can you provide documentation? I’m reading the Qur’an but I haven’t gotten to that part….yet.

      I’m no apologist for Muhammed but I do want to deal in primary sources.

      • benr October 31, 2023 at 8:22 am #

        9.29 in the Quran?
        Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

      • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:33 pm #

        The conquest of all, not their annihilation. Ideally, they would then or at least eventually convert to Islam. Until then they are second class people who have to pay the tax and have few rights.

        See the books of Robert Spencer if you want all the quotations anent the bad side of Islam.

  43. Paula D October 30, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

    ”“What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?”
    Zbigniew Brzezinski

    Looks like the US/west has stirred up some Muslims again. Dima reports that last night rioters in Dagestan, Russia, stirred up by Telegram rumors, attacked Russian police.
    This is how the US has destabilized Russia and other countries for decades.


    We have posters on this blog who obediently follow the narrative of their owners.
    They hate Hamas and Hezbollah with a white hot fury, as instructed, but then they cry crocodile tears over the sainted Chechen and Uyghur terrorists, as instructed.

    I have no doubt that they supported the freedom fighting Osama BinLaden and al Qaeda in the 80s and 90s, as instructed, then switched to hating them after 2001, as instructed, and then switched again to lauding them in 2011, when they were used to attack Libya and Syria, as instructed.

    They no doubt supported the Kosovo KLA Muslims when instructed, including al Qaeda, who fought with them.

    Pathetically predictable.

    • Cavepainter October 30, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

      Wow Paula, you’ve realized that a predictable proportion of any demographic can be easily manipulated by narrative construed of selected “facts” of history. I salute your sophisticated comprehension of how history is sieved into propaganda. Reminds me of how Wokeness was foisted upon our nation.

    • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

      As a Communist, Paula hates all religions except Communism.

      • Paula D October 31, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

        You are like an annoying heckler, with Tourette’s, to boot, following me around, uttering your vocal tic “She’s a commie”, every time I post.

        I note that only benr is stupid enough to believe you.

        • benr October 31, 2023 at 6:06 pm #

          Poor marxist lil Paula skewered by her own pathetic rhetoric.

        • Jarek November 1, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

          If you were forthright, every one would denigrate you for holding such viewpoints. So you hide them.

          • Paula D November 1, 2023 at 3:54 pm #

            I spend hours typing out my viewpoints here.

            Then you spend hours telling me that I don’t actually think what I think.

            Again, only benr is idiotic enough to take your word about what I think.

          • benr November 2, 2023 at 8:28 am #

            We see your talking points spewed all over the web site.
            You would fit right in with the “squad” of radical leftist idiots.


            The fact you spend hours a day typing in those opinions tells me you need a hobby.

  44. cowbell81 October 30, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

    Congrats Jim – This week’s Monday post was linked to Citizen Free Press!!!

  45. oldandtired October 30, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

    “ Notice that the Islamic nations surrounding Israel refuse to admit any Palestinian settlers. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, will not take them. Why is that?”

    el-Sisi to wife: “ Entissar! We have company! Water down the soup and set the table for 2 million, would you dear?”

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    • GreenAlba October 30, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

      Syria already has Palestinian refugee camps that have been there for decades. They also had or have Iraqi refugee camps.

      Syria continues to be partially occupied by the US, which is there pretending to fight ISIS, while it’s actually serving as a taxi service for them, among other things, as well as stealing Syrian oil and wheat.

      While this is going on, ordinary Syrians are suffering hugely under western sanctions. Not sure how many more Palestinians anyone thinks they can cope with, given the food and energy shortages they are suffering.

      Funny how no-one applied sanctions to the US or UK for the illegal Iraq war. Sanctions are always a bit one-sided.

      • OG October 30, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

        Sanctions are always a bit one-sided.

        The [other] Golden Rule:

        He who has the gold, makes the rules.

        Soon BRICS will be making the rules.

      • Paula D October 30, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

        Indeed, GA. Sanctions, propaganda, manufactured outrage, UN resolutions……..all a bit one-sided.

        You hear a whole lot about Occupied Palestine, but not a damn word about occupied Syria.

        Odd, that.

      • Night Owl October 30, 2023 at 5:01 pm #

        “Syria continues to be partially occupied by the US, which is there pretending to fight ISIS, while it’s actually serving as a taxi service for them, among other things, as well as stealing Syrian oil and wheat.”

        One of the biggest wake-up calls I ever had was watching them “accidentally” airdrop sidewinder missiles and other supplies to ISIS (who they created), and watching that band of headchoppers drive their new Toyota trucks arcross the ME on their way to Assad.

        Many of the trucks even had the names of US landscaping firms painted on the side (surplus materials).

  46. Jarek October 30, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

    The Gray Zone

    Zionist think tank publishes blueprint for Palestinian genocide

    As Israel’s carpet bombing of Gaza entered its third week, leaving over 5000 dead and at least one million residents displaced, a Tel Aviv-based think tank published a blueprint for self-proclaimed Jewish state’s final solution.
    In a white paper released over a week after the Hamas-led surprise attack on Israeli military bases and kibbutzes, The Institute for National Security and Zionist Strategy outlined “a plan for resettlement and final rehabilitation in Egypt of the entire population of Gaza,” based on the “unique and rare opportunity to evacuate the entire Gaza Strip” that Israel’s latest assault on the besieged costal enclave provided.

    Published in Hebrew on the organization’s website, the paper was authored by Amir Weitman, “an investment manager and visiting researcher” at the Institute who also leads the libertarian caucus of Israel’s ruling Likud Party. The document began by noting that there are 10 million vacant housing units in neighboring Egypt that could be “immediately” filled with Palestinians. Weitman then assured readers that the “sustainable plan…aligns well with the economic and geopolitical interests of the State of Israel, Egypt, the USA and Saudi Arabia.”

    Weitman’s ethnic cleansing proposal echoes forced transfer plans advanced in recent days by former Israeli officials while capitalizing on evacuation orders delivered to the entire civilian population of northern Gaza by the Israeli military.

    Flyers dropped from Israeli warplanes, Just received this from #Gaza. #Israel literally asked more than 1.1 million from north and central #Gaza city to leave towards the south. This is illegal and absurd. People of Gaza refuse to leave. #GazaUnderAttack#StopIsraeliAggression… pic.twitter.com/pPktoEjKQJ

    — Sameh Habeeb (@Samehahabeeb) October 13, 2023

    Weitman’s sinister blueprint imagined Israel purchasing these properties at a cost of $5 – 8 billion dollars, a whopping price-tag that reflects just 1 – 1.5 percent of Israel’s GDP.

    “These sums of money [required to cleanse Gaza] in relation to the Israeli economy, are minimal,” Weitman posits. “Investing individual billions of dollars to solve this difficult issue is an innovative, cheap and sustainable solution.”

    Weitman acknowledged that his plan virtually amounts to Israel “buying the Gaza Strip,” arguing the move would be “a very worthwhile investment” for Zionists because it would “add a lot of value over time.” He asserted local “land conditions” in the area would provide “many” Israeli settlers a high standard of living, therefore allowing for an expansion of settlements in Gush Dan near the Egyptian border, giving “a tremendous impetus to settlement in the Negev.”

    In December 2021, Tel Aviv approved plans to establish four settlements in the Negev to house 3,000 settler families.

    A genocidal war to end all wars
    Though Egypt has so far rejected Israeli pressure for a mass exodus of Gaza residents through the southern Rafah crossing, Weitman argued Cairo will welcome the mass exodus of Palestinian refugees as “an immediate stimulus” that will “provide a tremendous and immediate benefit to al-Sisi’s regime.”

    Weitman claimed that Cairo’s major creditors — including France, Germany and Saudi Arabia — are likely to welcome a revitalized Egyptian economy, courtesy of “Israeli investment” in the Palestinians’ permanent removal. He surmizes that Western Europe will welcome “the transfer of the entire Gaza population to Egypt,” because it will significantly “reduce the risk of illegal immigration…a tremendous advantage.” Meanwhile, he expects Riyadh to embrace the move because the “evacuation of the Gaza Strip means the elimination of a significant ally of Iran.”

    The ethnic cleansing of Gaza would mean an end to “ceaseless, repeated rounds of fighting, which inflame the fires of hatred against Israel.” Moreover, “closing the Gaza issue will ensure a stable and increased supply of Israeli gas to Egypt and its liquefaction,” from the vast reserves seized by Israel near Gaza’s shores.

    Palestinians in turn are expected to jump at the chance to be forcibly transferred from their homes rather than “living in poverty under the rule of Hamas.” It is therefore necessary for Israel to “create the right conditions” for them to “immigrate” from Gaza to Cairo. Weitman noted that Gaza’s two million inhabitants “constitute less than 2% of the total Egyptian population, which today already includes 9 million refugees. A drop in the ocean.”

    The paper ominously concluded: “There is no doubt that in order for this plan to come to fruition, many conditions must exist at the same time. Currently, these conditions are met and it is unclear when such an opportunity will arise again, if ever. This is the time to act. Now.”

    “If we want to remain alive, we will have to kill and kill and kill”
    As barbarous as these proposals might seem, they reflect what many Israeli officials appear to be murmuring in private, and what at least one former government spinmeister has openly pushed as an altruistic solution to the Palestinian “problem.”

    “There is a huge expanse, almost endless space in the Sinai Desert, just on the other side of Gaza,” former Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel, Danny Ayalon, echoed the genocidal Zionist logic behind Weitman’s proposal in an interview with Al Jazeera’s Marc Lamont Hill. “The idea is—and this is not the first time it will be done—for them to leave over to the open areas where we and the international community will prepare the infrastructure — you know, 10 cities with food and water — just like for the refugees of Syria.”

    “There is almost endless space in the Sinai Desert…this is not the first time it has been done…we & the international community will prepare tent cities…”

    Israeli politician Danny Ayalon describes the their vision for another Nakba today in Gaza.


    — Lowkey (@Lowkey0nline) October 14, 2023

    In 2004, Zionist demographer Arnon Sofer of Haifa University laid out detailed plans for the isolation of Gaza directly to Ariel Sharon’s government. This entailed withdrawing Israeli forces from the area entirely and constructing a stringent system of surveillance and security to ensure nothing and no one went in or out without Zionist proviso. He predicted a perpetual bloodbath:

    “When 2.5 million people live in a closed-off Gaza, it’s going to be a human catastrophe. Those people will become even bigger animals than they are today…The pressure at the border will be awful. It’s going to be a terrible war. So, if we want to remain alive, we will have to kill and kill and kill. All day, every day…the only thing that concerns me is how to ensure the boys and men who are going to have to do the killing will be able to return home to their families and be normal human beings.”

    The Institute has put forward a clean and easy fantasy of achieving the same goal put forward by Sofer. For it to succeed, all Palestinians have to do is put down their weapons and head toward the desert of permanent exile.

    Arnon Sofer is an academic who helped devise Israel’s siege of Gaza to engineer a one-way peace

    Sofer said, “If we want to remain alive, we have to kill and kill and kill, all day, every day. If we don’t kill, we will cease to exist.”

    I explain the logic of the siege (2013) pic.twitter.com/il2oCQQG7O

    — Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) October 10, 2023

    • TPTB-USA October 31, 2023 at 2:32 am #

      Hey Jarek, what is your current assessment of the big picture?

      Cabal Factions are Battling for World Control, and ISRAEL IS KEY — Mel K Interview

      • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

        It’s the burning fuse of WW3 BECAUSE they control the United States and the Anglosphere, and have great influence in the rest of Western Europe as well.

        They’ve lost Russia, thus the stage was set with the rise of Putin and his group.

        • TPTB-USA October 31, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

          Actions would support the notion that “Joe Biden” is all in on the 2030 Agenda, and I would agree with your assessment that they’ve lost Russia (and Putin).

          But, they delude themselves that Xi is onboard with their 2030 Agenda, and they are still hopeful that they can get Iran to embrace a peaceful Vision 2030.

          I am thinking that there are multiple Agendas, and various groups that support each Agenda but want to dictate the final format (the enemy of my enemy is my friend).

          Mel K commented that Israel was a key position in the Belt and Road path.

          Seems that Israel would embrace the Belt and Road Initiative, and peace; but that doesn’t seem to reconcile with Xi’s relationship with Iran, unless solely for the oil resource.

          So, is Xi just playing everyone, with the vision that the Belt and Road Initiative will trump all other agendas, and he will incorporate as many bits and pieces of the other agendas as he sees fit?

          • TPTB-USA November 1, 2023 at 9:34 pm #

            Comment on the news this morning was that some Chinese companies have removed Israel and Taiwan from their online world map.

  47. Heartlander October 30, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

    JHK wrote:
    “The second thorn that hangs up any plausible peace is the Palestinians’ overt declarations in the Hamas charter, for instance, that Israel has no right to exist and must be destroyed.”

    Yup, right there in their charter, for the whole world to see. But the world, alas, prefers not to look.

    Muhammad himself, supposedly the role model for all good Muslim men, presided over (and may have even participated in himself, with his own hands) the mass slaughter of more than 800 Jews of Medina in A.D. 627.


    The problem is Islam.

    What to do about it, I have no idea. Other than to pray for miracles and mass conversions. I think of the miraculous apparitions of Mary to Juan Diego in Mexico in 1531, which resulted in the mass conversion of over 8 million people to Christ and away from the demonic human-sacrifice cults that had reigned there for centuries.

    • Heartlander October 30, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

      Having said all that, though, I’ve always been sympathetic to the Orthodox Jews who, since the beginning, have said that the nation-state of Israel was created in error and even blasphemy. Their belief was that ONLY GOD, not secular man, could re-establish the Jews in the land of Israel. They saw it as a bunch of liberal/secular Jews trying to play Messiah, instead of waiting on God to send the Messiah.

      • Opie October 30, 2023 at 3:38 pm #

        Never widely reported on but there have been demonstrations in of all places NY by Orthodox Jews on that very thing. That’s the difference between Zionism and religion right there.

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 6:25 pm #

        The Settlers are Orthdox and do NOT believe the above.

    • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 7:58 pm #

      “What to do about it, I have no idea. Other than to pray for miracles and mass conversions.” — Heartlander

      Unfortunately, that’ll never happen.

      The greatest sin in Islam is apostasy. You don’t get to ‘choose’ to not be a Muslim. You’re born into it, and that’s that.

  48. Roundball Shaman October 30, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

    “The fog of war has never been so dense…”

    Is it really a ‘fog of war’ when war is everything you want? Looking at the sordid World history of United States Incorporated (and It’s Friends/Partners/Lackeys) you quickly see that War is not seen as Fog but as The Sweet Sun of Fun and Profit. Not seen that way by We the People of course who just want to be left the hell alone and live in peace. But we are never allowed to be that way because… a dense foggy day for us is just another sunny at the beach for all those faux Masters who bring fog to all over the World. An Empire of Fog that casts the pall of its dense dark grey over the Planet.

    “It’s a wonder that anybody might venture a coherent thought… without a sadistic beat-down or a dishonest, tactical inversion of meaning along the way.”

    This is also an aspect of the ‘Total Spectrum of Control’ which is the publicly-acknowledged mode of operation of the Dark State that rules the Planet with the eager help of willing hands of the Deep State. This is the aspect of a total war on OUR MINDS… our ability to think and communicate… our freedom to discern… to make sense of things… to agree upon a shared meaning of terms… and to probe deeper and find that which They wish to remain hidden when a base foundation has been laid down.

    Distort terms. Change the meaning of words. Totally eliminate some words. Introduce Nonsense words into the Public Arena and watch as the clueless public quickly eats them up and puts them into regular use. Garbage words like ‘Conspiracy Theorist’ and ‘Racist!’ and ‘Tear-Roar-Wrist!’ and ‘The Science!’ and ‘Climate Change’ and ‘Anti-Phonetic’ (?) and so many others.

    “The second thorn that hangs up any plausible peace is the Palestinians’ overt declarations in the Hamas charter, for instance, that Israel has no right to exist and must be destroyed.”

    So – (for those who are tuning in late) – here’s the short version:

    Certain Islamic Factions declare that Israel has no right to exist and must be destroyed.

    And Israel declares that Palestinians (and Iranians and others?) have no right to exist and must be destroyed.

    (OK, you’re all caught up now.)

    Have these cultures ever paused for a moment to stop and see how much alike they actually are? Like two brothers in the same family that just want to spend all their days fighting with each other? Various Sides that fervently believe that They Alone are Gods’ Favorites?

    ‘No, we are NOTHING like Them! How can you SAY that!’

    That was said by all those groups at the same time. See the pattern again?

    There’s an old cultural saying that comes out of Central Europe that goes something like this: “If They want to go ahead and pull each other’s hair out then go ahead and let Them do it”.

    In the case of eternal Middle East Madness… it is clear that all sides live just to pull each other’s hair out…and everything else along the way, with that.

    The Rest of the World has one simple request: Go ahead and pull all your hair out if you want to.. but please LEAVE OUR HAIR THE HELL ALONE.

    It’s not always pretty, but it’s OURS.

    • Anthea October 31, 2023 at 1:42 am #

      @ Roundball Shaman:

      Quite so. I don’t know why anyone’s even talking about this conflict. I suppose it deserves about an equal amount of our attention as the conflict between the Tutsi and the Hutu, but no more.

      Just as, “Joggers are gonna jog,” the people in the Middle East are going to fight. To paraphrase Mercutio’s dying speech about “a plague on both your houses,” my view is, “Piss on all y’all.”

      • Roundball Shaman October 31, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

        Anthea: “I don’t know why anyone’s even talking about this conflict.”

        One reason for this is because America’s State Media is obsessed with presenting this ‘Programming’ in front of our noses constantly – and always with a certain spin that greatly favors one side of the conflict. It is being force-fed into our consciousness and the Spirit of the Times.

        And why that certain ‘spin’? Because State Media is run by one particular ethnic group… and has been at least since movies and TV came along many years ago and since what used to be the great number of daily newspapers around the Nation began to disappear and leave the whole territory to TV (and now the Anti-Social Media sites).

        State Media (and key Websites) have a bully platform and they shove Their thoughts and agendas down our throats with it incessantly. And many of us have learned to eat that crap up and beg for more. And share it with others to pollute their minds as well.

        All Cultures are basically narcissistic in their functioning. They see everything their own way and they want everything to go the way they want. As such, multiple cultures are going to be in conflict with all sides demanding things ‘Their Way’. In other words, Cultures are like babies. And World conflicts are like babies fighting each other all trying to get Mommy to do things as they demand.

        Messy Babies that now control nuclear weapons.

  49. docmartin October 30, 2023 at 3:57 pm #

    This coward Jarek (aka several different screen names before) and several other “ regulars” iare in their glory right now Mr Kunstler. You give mini platforms to these little fecal remnants on your comment section and it makes me think you are no different than an assimilated Berliner in 1938. Pathetic .

    • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 5:01 pm #

      LOL! You’re that irritating little turd that just won’t pinch off, aren’t you?

    • beantownbill. October 30, 2023 at 5:30 pm #

      Well, doc, I like your comment about fecal remnants, but in all fairness to JHK, he’s trying to maintain an open forum, which means allowing some nasty people the ability to voice their opinions, even if we despise their beliefs. I have to give JHK credit for putting up with this garbage. I know for a fact the crap disgusts him, but that’s the price we have to pay for freedom of speech (the 1st A).

      I’ll tell you, I was appalled by Jarek (or whatever he was called when I first began reading this blog in 2008). I emailed JHK to ask him to ban Jarek). He was nice enough to explain to me why he was allowing the nazi crap. I don’t recall his exact answer, but now that I’m 15 years older, I can appreciate why he’s allowing it (that’s why I wrote this first paragraph.

      JHK is a better man than I am. If I was running this blog (obviously I’m not) I would have permanently kicked Jarek’s ass out of here 15 years ago.

      So, although you are disgusted with all this crap, which is understandable I say please don’t castigate Jim.

      • OG October 30, 2023 at 6:10 pm #

        You’re right, Bill. The Big Kahuna gets to speak and we can read him or we can scroll on by. Heck, we can even stroll on by as the public square is just too rambunctious for some.

        When Howard Stern first started becoming “The King of All Media,” his audience was, in substantial part, comprised of New York-radio listeners who hated him and every word that he uttered.

        My Dad was the same years ago with Bill O’Reilly on Fox. My Dad would get so angry at O’Reilly that he would talk about … well, never mind.

        JHK truly is a man of merit and character and integrity and fair
        who lanterns one of the final flickers of our dying public square.
        While bannings do happen, they are extremely rare
        because, for the most part, Mr K is laissez-faire.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 6:34 pm #

          I’m trying to be fair. I believe in a two state solution. Yes, I have my sympathies, but I’m not blinded by them.

          If the Palis are all put in the Sinai, and are taken care of by the proceeds of the “sale”, they will get even angrier and breed even more ferociously. They will camp out right on the Wall, and the Israelis will hear their chants and curses – and know that they have just kicked the can down the road.

        • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 7:00 pm #

          Well now I know who “The Big Kahuna” is at least. Jarek’s a bit extreme and a more than a bit irritating at times, but he’s also well informed and defends his positions very well (whether you agree with them or not), unlike docmartin above, who’s answer for everything is “ban the fecal remnants.”

          • OG October 30, 2023 at 8:17 pm #

            Right you are, Jimmy. Bans can be necessary but, in a vibrant public square, a ban should be the last resort.

            If someone doesn’t like what you or I or BK have to say:

            Don’t read us.

            We miss ya, Dis.

          • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:46 pm #

            Who’s = whose. Sorry, Q.

            Thanks OG. I like your stuff too. Being irritating is a hard row to hoe with a stiff price to be paid, but some of us feel compelled to assume the mantle nonetheless.

            The sheep will be with us always, but the shepherds must remain ever vigilant, no matter the lack of reward.

      • GreenAlba October 30, 2023 at 8:07 pm #

        “He was nice enough to explain to me why he was allowing the nazi crap. ”

        I believe this question was specifically referred to early in ‘Living in the Long Emergency’, which I read some 3 years ago.

        But I have no idea why I remember that from 3 years ago because I learned yesterday, exactly here, that women don’t have memories.

        • GreenAlba October 30, 2023 at 8:16 pm #

          Talking of memories, I can watch a film with my husband and, when it comes back on TV 6 months or a year later, I’ll say ‘we watched this already’. He’ll respond, ‘I’ve never seen it’. I’ll say ‘you watched it with me. You even commented [blah, blah]’. He will repeat, ‘I’ve never seen it’.

          Somewhere near the end of the film, he’ll remember a scene that he’s seen before. I’ve lost count of how often this has happened. I don’t even bother responding after the first ‘I’ve never seen it’ now. One spends a lot of time in ‘whatever …’ mode, with people who both have terrible memories but are entirely certain of themselves.

          • beantownbill. October 30, 2023 at 9:35 pm #

            Funny, GA. My wife and I have the same issue. I’m very good at remembering books and movies, and she isn’t. I can remember movies I watched years ago and she watches a movie a few months ago and doesn’t remember seeing it until halfway through it. Oh, well, no big deal.

          • GreenAlba October 30, 2023 at 10:01 pm #

            Well, I don’t mind rewatching something if it’s good (and not too soon after the first viewing). But, as I’ve said to my husband, his bad memory must serve him well, because it’s like a new film each time he sees it!

          • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 10:59 pm #


            I have the same routine (I don’t call it a problem) with my wife. We’ll be watching a movie that we’d seen a year ago. I’ll prompt her on a scene we’ve just witnessed. She’ll say she doesn’t remember it.

            Lots of good-natured ribbing. But she’s better than me at predicting the plot outcomes, which perhaps is why she’s drawn (unlike me) to murder mysteries.

        • benr October 31, 2023 at 8:28 am #


          My wife can specifically remember everything negative I have said to her for the last thirty years and repeat it exactly as I said it right back to me.

          It can be very frustrating.

          • GreenAlba October 31, 2023 at 9:49 am #

            Haha – I think that dynamic is quite common, benr. Men often wish women’s memories were less good. 🙂

            If my husband says something that completely contradicts what he said earlier, I’ll point it out. An example would be him saying, in December 2020 (re the about-to-be EUA’d ‘vaccines’, ‘I won’t be going near it and I don’t think most doctors will either’.

            A month later he got vaxxed, and, to this day, he has no recollection of the earlier assertion. I recall it word for word, because it mattered.

          • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

            Too bad women can’t remember what they themselves said two minutes previously. Or one post up in blog terms.

      • Night Owl October 31, 2023 at 5:25 am #

        “I emailed JHK to ask him to ban Jarek”

        Of course you did, Bill. I would not have expected you would do anything less to someone you dislike.

        Bill the Covid fascist didn’t know where the trains were going, he swears.

  50. The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

    Sedition Against The Banality of Top-Down Social-Engineering For The Masses

    • State governments/cronies have plopped down their Woke in universities and corporations and the like.

    • State governments/cronies have plopped down their ideological indoctrination and drag-queens and the like in elementary schools, libraries and places where our kids go.

    • State governments/cronies have plopped down their pseudowomen notions in various places where women go/do, like washroom facilities and sports.

    • State governments/cronies have plopped down their rules that authoritize the identities and/or pronouns, etc., of those whose identities are questionable, often at best.

    • State governments/cronies have plopped down their abnormal notions for normal and lies for truth.

    • State governments/cronies have plopped down chilling effects for those who would question/challenge their notions of reality.

    • State governments/cronies have plopped down their cops, social workers, private security personel and/or the like in different and/or socioeconomically-disadvantaged communities. (i.e., LGBT+ [Stonewall], aboriginal, ‘black’)

    • State governments/cronies have plopped down an entire State and/or its militaries in the middle of the Middle East.

    We are seeing what could possibly go wrong.


    Bill Mollison: “People question me coming through the American frontier these days. They ask, ‘What’s your occupation?’ I say, ‘I’m just a simple gardener.’ And that is deeply seditious. If you’re a simple person today, and want to live simply, that is awfully seditious. And to advise people to live simply is more seditious still.

    You see, the worst thing about permaculture is that it’s extremely successful, but it has no center, and no hierarchy.”

    Alan: So that’s worst from whose perspective?

    Bill: Anybody that wants to extinguish it. It’s something with a million heads. It’s a way of thinking which is already loose, and you can’t put a way of thinking back in the box.

    Alan: Is it an anarchist movement?

    Bill: …You won’t get cooperation out of a hierarchical system. You get enforced directions from the top, and nothing I know of can run like that. I think the world would function extremely well with millions of little cooperative groups, all in relation to each other.”

    Everything government touches turns to crap.” – Ringo Starr

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    • elysianfield October 30, 2023 at 5:56 pm #

      ” I think the world would function extremely well with millions of little cooperative groups, all in relation to each other.””

      Brilliant! He should also think about no more wars, babies not born with crooked backs, and ending world hunger.

      Just another superficial, shallow, and unrealizable hope, not understanding that the same human frailty that eventually destroys the state will also destroy their utopia.

      Golding’s Lord of the Flies was a roadmap.

      “…But…but this time it will be different….”

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 6:17 pm #

        Babysteps, elysianfield, Even you had to do them.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 6:41 pm #


      • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 8:03 pm #

        We’ve had many who tried their baby steps. They couldn’t even make it outta the crib.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 8:32 pm #

          Well that’s exaclty it: You, BackRowHeckler, elysianfield and MrMangoOnMySoulder look like you’re still in your cribs WRT anarchy. Maybe even fetal or zygote.

          • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 10:00 pm #

            I’m glad that at least one here — you, apparently — is an adult, and are here to instruct and enlighten us.

            Oh, wait. No one else iin the history of Earthlings have been so enlightened either.

            Well, Zaz, you’re just going to have to take on that incredibly heavy burden yourself. So what are you wasting time on us obtuse single cell organisms for? You should be out — I don’t know — on a stump on a corner somewhere more promising?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 12:23 am #

            Tribe Of Pangaea

            Did you see the link I posted upthread? This one?


            Not every ‘thing’ got out of course.

            Still, though, it is not without a sense of irony that we write in the ostensible throes of the decline and/or collapse of large-scale State-based global-industrial civilization…

            Which may, as you write, ‘instruct and enlighten us’, if nothing else, school of hard knocks and all that.

            Maybe no one will get out this time.

            Yours sincerely,

            Tribe Of Pangaea- First Member

          • Soul Forensics October 31, 2023 at 2:35 am #

            No. As I told you, I don’t play “go fetch!” to posted links. If you have an idea, I’d like to see it in your own words, and in concise form.

            Fuck your gish galloping.

          • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

            Even an amoeba must move even if it can’t walk (because it has no shoes!). Thus it “throws” part of itself forward and then pulls the rest of itself with that part.

            Is this what Za means by baby steps? The throwing of the pseudopod? If Society or the Human Race is a vast Amoeba, are the Anarchists the pseudopod, the “baby steppers”?

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 31, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

            Being past a concept for 25 years since that late-night frat party conversation about how ‘we’re solving the problems of the world, man, if everyone just…’ doesn’t mean one hasn’t worked its potential merits through properly, Dr. Zazelle.

            Life experience says the idea is pointless, outside of pockets of a few dozen idealists here and there…that will still call the cops if someone breaks into their car, or complain to the city council if a neighbor builds a shed closer than six feet to their fence.

            Please find a new hobby besides trying to push anarchism as a viable structure for actual humans.

            Or go start a commune in Bolivia.

      • GreenAlba October 30, 2023 at 10:49 pm #

        “Brilliant! He should also think about no more wars, babies not born with crooked backs, and ending world hunger.”

        Under anarchy (can you even say that, or should it be ‘in the vicinity of anarchy?), a bunch of nice people will just decide to be spinal surgeons. They will train for 10 years (or maybe 10 minutes, since there won’t be any regulations) and work for nothing (well, maybe a chicken or two). But if they kill the baby by accident, nobody will be able to sue them, because etc. etc.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 12:45 am #

          That’s why I posted this:


          Nature has solved some biological problems all on its own without the need for human so-called intelligence, like getting a fish out of the water and onto land, and then getting some monkeys out of their trees and into outer-space.

          Can we, or at least some of us, figure out better ways to run our societies? Of course.

          Anarchy, incidentally, isn’t about no authority but about no illegitimate authority.

          But none of that may be neither here nor there if our civilization crashes fast and hard enough that Klaus Schwab et al. loses grip and drops us all into a life of small-scale relative anarchy.

          Remember; I’ll get my anarchy one way or another. LOL

          • elysianfield October 31, 2023 at 2:03 am #

            “small-scale relative anarchy.”


            You have a young daughter? Let us suppose you do. Further, suppose a neighbor, has been found to be supplying fentanyl to your daughter, and then using her for immoral purpose…and several of your other neighbors have participated. Now suppose you find out due to your 12 year old’s obvious pregnancy.

            What does one do under small-scale relative anarchy?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 2:59 am #

            I’ve got a bit of a cold here and am finally getting sleepy again, but let’s see what I can crank out anyway…

            I recall once chatting with someone about context. They presented some artificial philosophical dilemma and I told them in part that that’s not what would happen in real life. It was artificial and stripped of context or most of it. Sure it was a thought experiment, but it had limited application.

            So assuming your case was real, I’d wonder what would be the context in which this happens? What kind of society would we be talking about?
            If we have a society with a rotten core and is starting to break down, then we’ll have all kinds of problems along those lines, veering in from different directions like a ‘perfect-storm’.

            Anarchy, or its sibling, direct/pure democracy, is in part a kind of preventative medicine and as we’ve already discussed, a kind of solid framework/foundation upon which to build to weather the storms.

            If you don’t have that kind of foundation to begin with, my advice would be to simply forget about building on it until you do.

            As for your example specifically, if it transpired, its context would in large part determine what I and others who may help, would do and could do.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 3:16 am #

            Oh ya, the other point I wanted to say is based on the classic wisdom of treating the cause rather than, or at least before, the symptom.

          • Soul Forensics October 31, 2023 at 4:02 am #

            “So assuming your case was real, I’d wonder what would be the context in which this happens? What kind of society would we be talking about?” — Zaz

            It’s always the society, the unfair society to blame. Never human weakness and evil.

            From mother’s tit to the university socialism funnel, the protected youth never see a physical fight, let alone get involved in one. Never get robbed. Never get employed in a factory or dangerous joe job, ruled over by a sadistic hard-hatted satrap.

            When they get dumped by a girlfriend, it’s not because they’re Peter Pans, but because they believed her when she said she didn’t want to crowd him, wanted instead to ‘set him free on his life journey’.

            Around 30 years of age, the facade, the entire idealist shooting match implodes, and they’re first stunned and disbelieving, then angry as hell, then depressed.

            They then become reclusive cynics, or, like the seven protagonists in Filloy’s Caterva, violent but unaffiliated ‘revolutionaries’. Or, just as bad, ineffectual house hubbies — submissive, resentful, and surly.

            Tragic, really.

          • GreenAlba October 31, 2023 at 5:21 am #

            “Remember; I’ll get my anarchy one way or another. LOL”

            Well, that’s probably true. But my guess is the local or regional warlords (or just protection racketeers) will have emerged before you can say ‘noble savage’.

          • benr October 31, 2023 at 8:33 am #


            Yes, thank you regional warlords or gangs will always fill the power vacuum and then it’s their rules and their rules typically are not fair to those not in their gang.

            That was my exact point about Afghanistan or Somalia barely functioning or non-existent governments with ruling regional warlords running the show and chaos everywhere.

          • elysianfield October 31, 2023 at 11:44 am #

            “Reports from Gaza indicate significant breakdowns in civil order, including mass looting of humanitarian aid warehouses, as well as theft of privately owned food, water, and fuel”

            “As for your example specifically, if it transpired, its context would in large part determine what I and others who may help, would do and could do.:

            “I’ve got a bit of constipation here and am finally getting sleepy again, but let’s see what I can crank out anyway”…deflection, obfuscation, and bullshit….Zaz, you know you have no answers, and reams of convoluted text have had few, if any, on this site aligning with your premise.

            You are not an anarchist, but rather a libertine, or at least a libertarian.

            You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own definitions.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

            Thanks guys for your august insights. Now we can move forward. LOL

            Maybe some of us or our progeny can inconspicuously tiptoe on-board the end results of those who’ve actually formulated the ideas, drafted the plans, and done the hard work.

            I’d offer a link to my ~3000 word draft manifesto in this regard but Soul Forensics doesn’t do links of/or ‘gish gallop’.

            Pass the Fentanyl…

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 6:13 pm #

            ” ‘So assuming your case was real, I’d wonder what would be the context in which this happens? What kind of society would we be talking about?’ — Zaz

            It’s always the society, the unfair society to blame. Never human weakness and evil.” ~ Soul Forensics

            Only that’s not really what we’re talking about.

          • elysianfield November 2, 2023 at 2:54 pm #

            “Maybe some of us or our progeny can inconspicuously tiptoe on-board the end results of those who’ve actually formulated the ideas, drafted the plans, and done the hard work.”

            I’m sure it took the formulation of ideas, the drafting of plans, and hard work to formulate and establish NAMBLA.

            Ideas, plans and hard work to no good end.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 2, 2023 at 8:40 pm #

            I’m sure it took the formulation of ideas, the drafting of plans, and hard work to formulate and establish NAMBLA.” ~ elysianfield

            You are speaking out of utter ignorance if you think anarchists can’t/won’t do anything but let whatever coercive transgression happen. Holishit LOL

            It has been said, probably by anarchists as well, that it’s the State that, aside from being criminals, protects the criminals.

            Your comments– and congrats by the way– add nicely to the idiocy of the threads.

    • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 10:02 pm #

      Notable political pundit and spiritual sage Ringo Starr is name-checked in yet another patchwork gish gallop set of non sequiturs.

      • Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 11:16 pm #

        gish gallop set – Soul F


        Thanks for bringing this term to my attention. It is totally new to me.

        • Soul Forensics October 30, 2023 at 11:59 pm #

          It’s an internet plague created by know-nothings.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 1:34 am #

            Know-nothing? Never heard of that before.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 1:47 am #


          • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

            Something new that the ladies love? Like “whataboutism” or the challenging of premises with examples that contradict them? Men at their best see this as metal sharpening metal, but very few women will ever attain unto this.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 6:18 pm #

            I suspect that Soul Forensics, based on what I’ve read of theirs so far, is just projecting.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 1:33 am #

          Hi Q. Shtik.

          I don’t think that qualifies as a gish gallop (my comment-in-question is actually quite tight with one main concept) and Soul Forensics’ stylistic latch-on to Ringo Starr is a riot. LOL

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

        Commenting On That Deliberately-Amusing Green Ringo Maraschino Cherry On Top

        Notable political pundit and spiritual sage Ringo Starr is name-checked…” ~ Soul Forensics

        The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 11:09 pm:

        “No it didn’t download porn onto your computer! Skunks can’t do that! So it was probably you! Or someone– human of course– who has access to your computer!”

  51. socialisthater October 30, 2023 at 4:33 pm #

    “What a moment to be leaderless!”-JHK

    Actually, the U.S. has a leader–it’s a cabal run by Obama/Hillary and funded in no small part by George Soros. Biden is just the evil, corrupt, criminal vegetable puppet that the cabal utilizes to effect the destruction of the American Republic.

    The Obama/Hillary cabal is a violent, sadistic, murderous coagulate of the worst features of Communist/Socialism and Fascist/Socialism. It’s would be as if Hitler and Stalin got together and birthed a love child that expressed in its being the worst and most evil genes of its parents. Included in that, in the case of Obama, was the gift of oration to be able to sinister bald-face lie in a most convincing manner like Hitler, and in the case of Hillary, to be as ruthless and merciless to a country’s own citizens as Stalin was to Soviet citizens.

    Worst of all, the evil of the Obama/Hillary cabal has infected the entire Democrat Party elite, so getting rid of Biden (which will likely happen now that he is becoming a major liability to the cabal) will solve little. There are many vicious Democrat tyrants-in-training to replace Biden . . . and Harris. It’s easy to spot them–just see who is staying in the Party–they are the tyrants. Those who refuse to toe the Democrat elite line are getting drummed out of the Party, one-by-one. Whatever the Democrat Party was, it is now the Party of pure evil.

    • beantownbill. October 30, 2023 at 4:58 pm #

      You sure are correct.

    • RUfuckinKidding? October 30, 2023 at 10:00 pm #

      “The Obama/Hillary cabal is a violent, sadistic, murderous coagulate of the worst features of Communist/Socialism and Fascist/Socialism. It’s would be as if Hitler and Stalin got together and birthed a love child that expressed in its being the worst and most evil genes of its parents. Included in that, in the case of Obama, was the gift of oration to be able to sinister bald-face lie in a most convincing manner like Hitler, and in the case of Hillary, to be as ruthless and merciless to a country’s own citizens as Stalin was to Soviet citizens.

      You must be either kidding us or, if you truly believe all that tripe, then you’re headed for a mental institution.

      • benr October 31, 2023 at 8:46 am #

        Socialisthater is 100% on point the fact you choose not to admit it is a reflection of your own mental short comings not his.

  52. drhooves October 30, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

    The takeaway from where I sit concerning this latest bit of middle-east mischief is that it’s obvious that many of Israel’s Jews are like the rest of us – pawns of the puppet masters. Just being Jewish doesn’t guarantee a “seat at the table” or membership of the insider’s club.

    Things are going to get messy as part of a script gone awry. The goal was probably a bit of upheaval, fewer citizens on the planet, and firm control over the reigns of power across the globe. But Nature, as the dealer in this game, has a few cards up her sleeve and will be tossing jokers right and left as part of the chaos. The near future will be an echo of 1939 Germany, with a little Mad Max, and not nearly as cheerful ending in six years.

    • malthuss October 30, 2023 at 5:05 pm #

      and Christians in Israel get spat on, or worse.

      and what of mussies there? no seat at the table.

      • elysianfield October 31, 2023 at 1:35 am #

        You got it all wrong…it seems the Christians were on fire, and the Israelites were trying to help….

  53. anmariwakaranai October 30, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

    Ok, here’s my timeline, there is overlap….

    Time of mercy now concluding.

    Peace shattered. Ongoing.

    Economic collapse. Has begun.

    Social collapse. See SF, ongoing.

    Minor persecution. Vexx related, racial, sexual, religious, political, financial.

    The warning. You are shown the state of your conscience by God.

    The reprieve. The eye of the storm. You have 6 to 8 weeks to get good with God.

    Time of refuges. Follow the flame, your angel to safety.

    Divine chastisements. ..??

    Reign of the Antichrist. Will stop the nuclear war, is tall, fit, dark, will be worshiped.

    Three days of darkness. Whereby God purifies the earth.

    The era of peace. Jesus comes to destroy the beast & reign in your hearts.

    Tons more detail at countdowntothekingdom

    • OG October 30, 2023 at 5:31 pm #

      Wow! Thank you.

    • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 8:05 pm #

      No dates? Thank you, Sweet Mountain Jesus.

      May His hand be upon you, ani.

      • anmariwakaranai October 31, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

        Feelin much peace Jar, thnx.

    • RUfuckinKidding? October 30, 2023 at 9:58 pm #


      • anmariwakaranai October 31, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

        Not kidding.
        Btw, the 6 to 8 weeks to get good with God follows the Warning immediately.

        Also the one world gov + one world $ + major persecution is in there too, certainly when the antichrist steps up but as we can see it is all already in the works.

  54. The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 5:34 pm #

    Israel/Palestine: Not Your Average Neighborhood

    “A thought such as: the Jews have a right to exist in a place called Israel.” ~ JHK

    Interesting you didn’t write State. You called Israel, at least there, a place.

    Of course, people have a right, more or less, to exist in any place they choose, but they have– at least it helps– to get along with their neighbors.

    I’m unsure people have a right to ‘affect’ an area with a particular State of affairs or, if they do, like the right to free speech, there will be consequences.

    Why whatever could they be?

    In any case…

    Mister Rogers Sings It’s You I Like


  55. The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

    Israel As Mid-East Strategic ‘Panopticon’?

    The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 2:26 am:

    “If this Israel/Hamas thing is somehow some kind of Russian… ‘proxy chess-play’, say, to get NATO/USA away from Ukraine, then this Hamas-Israel attack will become a protracted/guerrilla/asymmetric war… until US… is sufficiently bankrupted and/or goes home for good.

    Time will tell, (such as if ‘this time it’s different’).”

    I still stand by that.

    How many Russians, ethnic Russians in Ukraine and Ukrainians died so far by US/NATO/Ukraine?

    If I was Russian/Putin, Israel would likely be a target.

    That ‘Jews have a right to a place called Israel’ would seem almost irrelevant in this context when your people are being slaughtered not too far away by American proxy while Israel is not only an ally of USA but as some say, a practical annex.

    How was Israel’s defenses so easily breached by HAMAS? Maybe because they had a lot of help.

    Occam’s razor/means, motive, opportunity.

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    • OG October 30, 2023 at 7:14 pm #

      until US… is sufficiently bankrupted and/or goes home for good

      I posted this a while ago but right before a CFN thread expired. It bears repeating:

      NATO has completely depleted their stock-piles on Putin’s Ukraine Stalemate (PUS). The American, UK, German, et al war cupboards are now bare. I wonder if a NATO-draining quagmire (PUS) was brilliant by Putin while everyone wonders this, that and the other.

      That is, perhaps everyone wrongly assumes that Putin wants to win ASAP and, therefore, “He can’t win ASAP or he would.” On the other hand, what if PUS was his motive?

      Putin gave the US every opportunity for peace. Then, finally, “OK, mofos. Let’s go.” BRICS big-time. Drain NATO. Ramp up Russian production of all things war. Battle-hardened military. [There is no amount of pushups in Kansas before going out to Chili’s can hold a candle to months of combat in the mud against NATO-supplied Ukrainian Nazis.] Stronger, growing alliances with the 80% of earth that has about had it with us Five Eyes and our Monopoly money anyway.

      Putin is a very clever man.

      I dare say smarter, even, than President Potatohead.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 7:26 pm #

        Taken at face-value, that seems to square with the razor, means, motive and opportunity.

      • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 9:44 pm #

        By about a factor of millions.

      • Paula D October 31, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

        The US has been out of weapons for months now, or so they tell us.

        And yet, somehow, the Kiev regime still manages to shell both the troops and civilians in the Donbass. Where do they get the shells?

        Every day they shell civilian infrastructure, and kill civilians, and yet it goes unremarked upon (unless the Mighty Wurlitzer blames it on Russia.)

        No sanctions, no endless denunciations on blogs, no UN resolutions condemning the violence, no students marching around chanting “Death to Kiev/NATO”.

        Find out who you are not allowed to criticize seems applicable here.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 1, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

          Good points.

  56. BULLITT October 30, 2023 at 6:39 pm #

    I read and re-read comments above but I still have a feeling that nobody has put the pieces together.
    I’ve got the feeling that our friend and former President Obama is knee deep in all of this current development. Biden and Harris are place holders. We aren’t protecting Israel. They are just a pawn in this game. Maybe Israel got suckered into this game with some worthless promises. At this point, either Israel takes out Iran or Iran takes out Israel. I would put my money on Iran. Over the past ten years we have assisted Iran with so many special favors. Why? Take a look at the relationship between the Obama Administration and Iran. Valarie Jarrett’s name comes up quite often as well as John Kerry, and a number of other high-ranking officials who are IRAN friendly. Is the game plan, Iran takes out Israel, then we take out Iran and we win the oil fields and the problem of Gaza, the West Bank etc. goes away.
    Soros is funding many of the demonstrations. Why? What’s his M.O. Is the threat of war enough for people in the USA to say the hell with all of them in the Middle East. Are the demonstrations going to cause enough havoc in the U.S. or further lead to a false flag that will overwhelm us. There’s a game plan for all of us. So far, emotions are running the show. We better start looking at the pieces of this puzzle. They are right in front of us!

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 7:11 pm #

      Venezuela welcomes Russian bombers in show of support for Maduro

      “Russia has landed two nuclear-capable “Blackjack” bombers in Venezuela as part of a joint training exercise experts say is designed to showcase Moscow’s growing military prowess and shore up the position of Venezuela’s embattled president, Nicolás Maduro.” ~ The Guardian

      It’s Looking Like Another Failed Coup Attempt by the US and Its Puppet Guaido in Venezuela
      The US cannot understand how loathed it is south of the border

      “The failure of the latest coup plotted so carefully in the war rooms of the White House, Pentagon and CIA was pre-ordained as soon as it became clear that Washington’s chosen puppet Juan Gerardo Guaido Marquez was nothing more than a creation of theirs, meant to do the bidding of the plotters in DC.” ~ Common Dreams

      “The proven oil reserves in Venezuela are recognized as the largest in the world, totaling 300 billion barrels [2014]” ~ Wikipdia

      • benr October 31, 2023 at 8:49 am #

        Venezuelan oil is not light sweet it is sulfur heavy and takes a lot to refine.

        • JohnAZ October 31, 2023 at 9:19 am #

          Right! The US refineries are tooled to run light sweet from fracked wells.

          This is an indication of the ignorance of the Biden Mob. Converting to Venezuelan oil is a high cost adventure and will result in a step back towards other high sulfur energy sources like coal.

          BRICS++ 1. West 0

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 31, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

          “The average quality of crude oil produced worldwide continues to
          become heavier (higher density/more carbon rich) and sourer (higher in sulphur) as the light sweet crude oil fields are depleting…” ~ Petroleum Review, 2007

  57. HabeamVinum October 30, 2023 at 6:57 pm #

    JHK, remember after 9/11 when you wanted to kill sandniggers?
    You never apologized for that and I see you have a good reason for it – you are just as racist and murderous as you were then.

    For somebody that keeps blabbing about psyops you really can be stupidly blind, you know?

    I left a couple of comments on your podcast suggesting that you should ask questions. I will give you an example:

    “Three weeks ago, the Middle East was on the verge of putting through the Abraham Accords that would have “normalized” relations between Israel and several states of the Arabian Peninsula, exchanges of ambassadors, openings to trade and such. Other Islamic nations in North Africa were expected to join anon. And just before the October 7 Hamas attack, Saudi Arabia was about to hold normalization talks with Israel. That’s all out the window.”

    How can you have zero self-awareness when writing this? Can you at least ask yourself why this coincidence? Why did Israel’s security state failed EXACTLY like US on 9/11? Or you suddenly don’t believe in psyops anymore?

    I give up – all MSM and the fringe media (like you) is either completely bought or made up of bots (AI or people but without any ability to learn).

    • Islander October 30, 2023 at 7:17 pm #

      One problem with the vaunted Abraham Accord plan as presented by Net was that Palestine was simply erased from the picture.

      The actual owners of most of the the Zionists’ real estate. The timing was good for Hamas to remind teh world that this little game is not going to forward as Net proposes and fantasizes, “disappearing” the Palestinians and their rights and claims..

      The second problem with the sequence of events was the mobbing of the Al Aqsa Mosque on Oct. 5. The Zionist nutters have made it be known that they intend to demolish and (re)build their temple right there. LOL. They are said to have their red heifers already primed and ready in some pens somewhere, for the required blood sacrifice.

      [[Reminder: This is the 21st Century. ]]

      Although there is no archeological evidence that there ever was a Jewish temple anywhere near there. Anyhow it wouldn’t matter because the mosque that is there now is the third-most holy site in Islam.

      • OG October 30, 2023 at 7:40 pm #

        They are said to have their red heifers already primed and ready in some pens somewhere, for the required blood sacrifice. Reminder: This is the 21st Century.

        What year, do you think, did religion expire?

        • Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth October 30, 2023 at 10:32 pm #

          No but fucking slaughtering cows as a religious practice did expire.

          Must be nice to be a normal hard working Israeli when the government pays some of the population to never work, dress like its the 12th century and read the torah all day. Oh yeah and and favor the radical settlers that spit on christians and randomly invade Palestinian farms.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

      No one’s perfect and it can’t be easy to watch the shit unfolding in Israel and in one’s own backyard and with connections to both.

      I’d like to see your consistent bi-weekly blog.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

      Everyone’s learning.

      Barring neurological disorders, we all learn right up until our deaths.

    • Islander October 30, 2023 at 7:32 pm #

      “JHK, remember after 9/11 when you wanted to kill sandniggers?”

      Plus, LOL..
      Because probably it was the Israeli sand niggers.
      Well, ya learn something every day.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 30, 2023 at 7:55 pm #

        In Jim’s next life in the next universe, he might be script-writing for Broadway and/or Hollywood and won’t have to bother much with geopolitics, suburban sprawl or peak oil. In the case that he might have to for a particular play or film, they will hire consultants.

        Life takes us down paths that aren’t necessarily ideal for our styles and personalities, etc..

        Maybe like that film, Cloud Atlas.

        I wonder what I’ll be doing in the next iteration of reality…

  58. HabeamVinum October 30, 2023 at 7:00 pm #

    Also for anybody interested out there, there is solid evidence US and Israel created and supported Hamas. Look for videos from 2019 where Netanyahu begs arab nations to support Hamas: “If you support zionism, you NEED to support Hamas”.

    Too bad our host is braindead, I would have asked him to comment on this.

  59. Islander October 30, 2023 at 7:08 pm #

    Alastair Crooke on the mad-doggism of Netanyahu and his Amalek raving.

    These people are stark raving mad. They think they are living in the world of 3000 years ago that some Babylonian rabbis dreamed up for a holy book.

    You cannot make this stuff up.


  60. PageMarker October 30, 2023 at 7:15 pm #

    Congrats, James, you’ve been picked up by ZeroHedge, amongst other places I’ve noticed in the last several months.

    Strange timing on the Abraham Accord that was soon to kick in. Golan Heights has never been considered Israeli territory until gas & oil were discovered there.

    Interesting definition of Zionism, seems your definition is the accepted one, hard to argue against that, but there always seems to be an International objective of sorts thru international banking that is not even mentioned.

    Those attacks against the Israelis sure look coordinated to a wider objective, how is it the intelligence services can pick up communications on the hospital bombing but never a mention of the major assault. Hmmm.

    Stand with the citizens, but not a big fan of their government. The innocent are always the first to suffer and be forgotten. Sad days are upon us.

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    • OG October 30, 2023 at 7:34 pm #

      Stand with the citizens, but not a big fan of their government.


    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 9:40 pm #

      The Golan Heights will never be given up. It is the high ground with Syria.

    • Anthea October 31, 2023 at 2:09 am #

      @ PageMarker:

      ZeroHedge used to carry JHK all the time, I think it was a few years ago. They stopped carrying him for a couple of years, but now he’s back.

  61. HabeamVinum October 30, 2023 at 7:53 pm #

    “The pressure is on for Israel to re-think its furious response to the savage attacks of October 7. Yet, the threat to its survival has never been so stark.”

    Israel “furious” response – killed 3000 children
    Hamas “savage” attack – killed 1000? people, at least some of them probably killed by Israel (see reports from the Israeli prisoners). Not to mention that Hamas is a tool of US/Israel with funding well documented.

    JHK, at the very least you should realize that your lizard brain is manipulated. Take some distance, read about the Kindgom of Outremer and realize that Israel’s days are numbered. There is a chance some (or all) Israeli citizens might be saved and relocated (Russia offered, US might help) but the good news is that Christians, Jewish and Moslems lived in relative peace in the middle east for a long time. The only times when they murdered each other is when the western crusaders (aka imperialists) intervened.

    Note: this is for other interested readers, I know JHK is not capable of learning. Most people have rigid thought processes after adolescence and this is most visible in people raised in the US empire (followed closely by Brits and Germans).

    • King of Comedy October 30, 2023 at 8:16 pm #

      Bullshit detectors are going off everywhere. Those “peaceful” Muslims invaded and occupied Europe first, almost five centuries before the first Crusade. Not to get all schoolyard on you but they started it.

      Israel v. Jihadi is just a sideshow for the main event, the West v Jihadi, the Reconquista, part 2. And last I checked, Outremer didn’t split the atom so if Israel is indeed on borrowed time, there are going to be a healthy sampling of glow-in-the-dark theme parks that used to be Arab capitals. Armageddon bitchez!!!

      • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:35 pm #

        You do standup too, I take it? I’d like to sit in on one of your shows.

        • King of Comedy October 31, 2023 at 12:19 am #

          Do you have any money? Most people who think like you are dependent on government transfer payments or student loan forgiveness for their ethnic studies degrees. I would need to see cash up front.

          • Jimmy Word October 31, 2023 at 11:35 am #

            Nah. I’ve humbly served the empire as a low level functionary my entire life.

    • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2023 at 8:28 pm #

      Western Crusader lol. Mongol hordes swept thru Asia & into the Levant in the mid 13th century putting entire Muslim cities to the sword. Islam was nearly stamped out. Luckily for Europe gallant Teutonic Knights & Knights Templar stopped the Mongols on the Plains of Hungary, keeping them out of Europe.

      And we want Constantinople back.

      • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 9:57 pm #

        The Mongol hordes.. aren’t they the ancestors of the Turks, and a group called the Khazars?

      • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 10:39 pm #

        No, the slaves soldiers of the Egyptian Sultanate, the Mamelukes, defeated them. The European Knights were defeated. Or maybe we’re both right at different times.

        The Muslims produced superb slave soldiers, both with Mamelukes and later, the Janissaries. Or are all soldiers slaves?

        Is every woman your superior officer or just your wife? In any case, true warriors who choose when and why they fight are very rare. Too rare to really matter in warfare, alas.

        • Jarek October 30, 2023 at 10:42 pm #

          The Horde was recalled back to Mongolia after the Khan died. That’s what saved Western Europe.

          On the other hand, Western Europe was more powerful than Eastern – with far more castles. Castles were hard for the horsemen to deal with. It took time to get all the siege equipment ready, and they were very far from their power base (China) that would have all that.

  62. HabeamVinum October 30, 2023 at 8:16 pm #

    Correction: “realize that NOT all jewish people are murderous psychopaths”
    Oops, as a jew it seem that I hate myself…

  63. OG October 30, 2023 at 9:01 pm #

    Zilch nada has no clue as to what a fascist is.

    Yesterday, when informed of the story that Matthew Perry beat-up Justin Trudeau in Grade 5 in Ottawa, FF opined:

    … they both turned out to be fascist pieces of shit.

    Trudeau obviously is a fascist. No argument there.

    But I had never heard of Matthew Perry being a fascist. So I asked for more.

    Zilcher then proudly pointed to the well-known incident of Perry selling T-shirts for charity along with a pro-vaxx message. And that’s it!

    Matthew Perry never instituted a mandate. Matthew Perry never said, “No groceries!” No. Duped Matthew Perry shilled for money. Matthew Perry was worth $120mm and still shilling. Matthew Perry is a simple capitalist by any definition.

    And yet FF crowed so mindless and confidently.

    You see, Zilcher appears to think that entertainment media-whore shills exercising their free speech is fascism if he disagrees with it. Or perhaps he thinks that nurses and medical volunteers are all fascists. Perhaps he even thinks that all those that agreed with Matthew Perry’s free speech and willingly received their jabs (i.e. the duped) are all fascists (i.e. “Fascists everywhere!”).

    If that were so, then all Western nations are now vast-majority fascist.

    Zilcher can’t help it. [Well, ok, he should cut down on the soy. I’ll give you that.]

    My point is, women and girly-men think purely in terms of, “I like him!” and “I don’t like him!”

    That’s it. That’s their basis for everything.

    I know it well.

    To those men here on CFN who are roughly JHK’s age and think that I’m out-to-lunch on this, I say:

    Easy for you to say with your pre-Kramer vs. Kramer last-generation-of-the-good-ones wife.

    Women born before JFK had his head blown apart in Dallas are the bee’s knees. Of those born afterwards, bee’s knees are needles in haystacks.

    • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

      Cops changed too. They lost all respect for the American people at some point in the 60’s. Kerouac talked about this. And of course the people did get worse. Hitchhiking ceased to be safe.

  64. Islander October 30, 2023 at 9:05 pm #

    A comment at Moon of Alabama:

    “The creation of Israel after WW2 was an interesting experiment; of course the treatment of Palestinians was shocking and disgraceful, but if it had worked it might be the blueprint for the creation of Apache and Souix states in North America, an Aboriginal State in Australia, hundreds of tribal states in Africa etc…

    But it didn’t work because the Israelis failed to integrate with their new neighbours. After nearly 80 years of Israeli genocide and war crimes it is time to call the experiment to a halt.. . .”

    • OG October 30, 2023 at 9:17 pm #

      … it is time to call the experiment to a halt.

      Not likely.

    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 9:32 pm #

      So what do we do about the 80 years of Arab genocide “ We are going to drive the Jews into the Med”, the three wars initiated by the Arabs, the over and over harassment by rockets.

      What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

      Have you ever integrated with your neighbor when they had a 30-06 pointed at you?

      • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 9:36 pm #

        The one way attribute is all over you and you have lots of company. I cannot believe how anti-Semitic this country is now.

        • Jimmy Word October 30, 2023 at 10:34 pm #

          I cannot believe how anti-Semitic this country is now.

          OOPS! There it is! The coward’s last canard.

          • beantownbill. October 31, 2023 at 11:52 am #


            Why don’t you tell me you generally like Jews, then. I’ll wait for your answer.

        • benr October 31, 2023 at 9:00 am #

          They scream about being anti-Fascist or National Socialist (NAZI) while taking up many of its root belief systems.

          • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

            If we ever take America back, are we really going to allow Feminism, Marxism, and Libertarian Communism to be taught in our colleges? These are mind viruses. Many will never recover once infected.

            Our foolishly “open” society allowed for evil to grow everywhere like weeds. The “Fascists” (could you even define this to save your life?) were and are far wiser.

          • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

            correction: Libertarian Capitalism

        • Paula D November 1, 2023 at 11:59 am #

          My husband said that same thing the other day, JohnAZ. Who knew?

          It’s all out in the open now, though.

        • Islander November 2, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

          I wonder why this country might be becoming more “anti-semitic.”

          BTW, you could educate yourself on the origins of this BS word here (at least, check out the cartoons):


      • GeoffDu October 30, 2023 at 9:37 pm #

        most people don’t know what is really going on. Fortunately this good person has made what is probably the best documentary on the subject I have seen and I hope the whole world sees it. Because we have all been played.

      • chimayred October 31, 2023 at 12:40 am #

        Thank you. One person on this site with perspective

    • King of Comedy October 30, 2023 at 9:39 pm #

      Genocide lol

  65. Q. Shtik October 30, 2023 at 9:29 pm #

    I learned something yesterday I bet few if any here are aware of. NY Jets head coach, Robert Saleh, is a Muslim of Lebanese extraction. He is the first and only NFL Muslim head coach to date.

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    • JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 9:34 pm #

      So what!!

      He is a manager and an American. Anything else is divisive.

      • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

        Good Muslims like football! Anyone who doesn’t isn’t American even if White and supposedly Christian.

        How could a Christian not like football?

        • OG October 31, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

          How could a Christian not like football?

          Now that’s funny! I’m still chuckling.

    • Jimmy Word October 31, 2023 at 10:49 am #

      Knew he was Lebanese, but are you sure he’s Muslim? I haven’t heard that.

      • Q. Shtik October 31, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

        but are you sure he’s Muslim? – J Word


        I read it on google. I did not see him kneeling down forehead to the ground facing Mecca.

  66. Islander October 30, 2023 at 9:47 pm #

    This is a brilliant exposition by Richard Medhurst of the role played by gas and oil politcs in the Oct. 7 event.

    As he says, you cannot understand ME politics with out understanding gas and oil: the location of reserves, the plans to find and develop new fields, the plans to cut out some suppliers (Russia, Iran, the two biggest) and invest in others.

    That is what Net was up to at the UN as he flourished his big map with the magic marker line on it. That was what Hamas was not going to allow to fly.

    Try harder. Look deeper.


  67. JohnAZ October 30, 2023 at 9:53 pm #

    All the comments are interesting but meaningless.

    The owner of the Levant in 2030 is going to be the one with the biggest guns.

    History gives a hint of who that might be.

    • Socrates-Detroit October 30, 2023 at 10:19 pm #

      I think the current state of Israel will remove all the Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank, and get the “pure Jewish state” that many, perhaps most, “Jews” (but not all) wanted.

      And in the process, this will be, not the straw, but the brick, that breaks the US camel’s back.

      The Israeli tail has wagged the US dog for 60 years now, since LBJ took over, and quietly let Israel shoot up the USS Liberty. I’m surprised a good Republican such as yourself doesn’t take umbrage that LBJ did this because he did not wish to offend Jewish donors who provided half the Democrat party’s funds. But I digress….

      When the big dog, the USA, gets weak, or even dies, Israel will be finished. As it is, Israel has always gotten massive amounts of outside aid, both public and private. It’s not as stand alone as people like to think.

      Now, Israel will NOT have the “problem” of policing the Palestinians. But it will be surrounded by hostile nations, with no US cavalry to save them, just the threat of MAD (mutually assured destruction, as if Israel can nuke their neighbors, but then some one else will nuke Israel. Of course, Israel has foreseen that, so they have their own triad, with a few nuclear-missile equipped subs, which can effectively destroy Russia, China, and also the US). All this in an increasingly resource-constrained world, where, as others here note, BRICS has most of the oil, a lot of food, and most of the productive capacity, while the US military erodes, buying every more pricey weapons in far fewer numbers, and using wokeness as a promotion criteria, and the public and economy grapple with “leverage in reverse” as the financial system breaks down, as the medical system breaks down, as America ages.

      That may mean that NO ONE gets the Levant, as a nuclear-armed Israel has the means to end life on the planet as we know it.

      That’s probably the time of the 2nd Coming, when God will give the “Levant” to His chosen people and prevent mankind from blowing up earth.

      But, between that place and now, things will get more difficult and rougher for most people in the world, and very difficult and rough for some.

      I hope I’m wrong on the removal of the Palestinians. But does it matter? This bombing campaign has created so much suffering and hatred, the actual Hamas attack and subsequent demonization of Palestinians have created a lot animosity. Bad feelings on both sides, one side has the power, and that’s why I see the Palestinians being removed now, and I speculate as to the after-effects

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 30, 2023 at 10:51 pm #

        You think God will swoop down and yell, “Cut, cut, cut,” to prevent nuclear catastrophe?

        • OG October 30, 2023 at 11:18 pm #

          He might. He could if He wanted to.

        • Jimmy Word October 31, 2023 at 10:48 am #

          George Clooney, with a little makeup of course, would make a good God I think.

        • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

          Yes, Morgan Freeman is getting a little old to play God. But my vote is for Sam Bank-Man-Freed, the Bubba Free John of our times.

      • OG October 30, 2023 at 11:08 pm #

        … a nuclear-armed Israel has the means to end life on the planet as we know it.

        Israel has nukes? Are you sure?

        • elysianfield October 31, 2023 at 1:29 am #

          Well, no one knows (wink, wink). Intelligence estimates that they have between 75 and 400 bombs available, and they have the nuclear triad as means of delivery.

          Also, their “Samson” gambit, a known part of their warfighting doctrine, suggests access.

          But who knows (giggle, snort).

          • beantownbill. October 31, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

            Ef, nobody knows. Except all the giggles and snorts do glow in the dark.

      • chimayred October 31, 2023 at 12:39 am #

        This campaign has created animosity??? Where have you been? Read From Time Immemorial.

    • anmariwakaranai October 31, 2023 at 2:23 pm #


      ‘Who comes as aweful as an army in battle array?’.

  68. chola3 October 30, 2023 at 10:03 pm #

    In some cases, might does make right. A multitude of European settlers pushed into what is now the USA, populated by a lesser armed and sparse population. Similar is the story of Israel.

    Problem is, sometimes things go in reverse. Multitude of people again push into USA, populated by non-breeding fatsos and perverts.

    I used to think a fat Israel, from Sinai to Euphrates, would be good for us Hindus in India for various reasons. Could be why the current BJP government is supportive of Israel.

    Having seen the Hamas in action though, I feel otherwise. The Arabs, Persians and Anatolians are getting stronger and more united as they have a common enemy (with its sugar daddy).

    Maybe Israel should go (Soviets have an oblast just for them), and the Arabs can go back to warring among themselves.

    • chimayred October 31, 2023 at 12:37 am #

      And the Persians and Arabs don’t have their own sugar daddy?

      • JohnAZ October 31, 2023 at 10:30 am #

        Interesting question.

        Expanding a little, has BRICS++ set up funding for their pushes against the West.

        Think Iran, what do they want?

        Elimination of Israel, yes!!

        Elimination of the West, with the Great Satan, from influence in the ME?

        With the latter, how far will the West go to protect its oil-gas interests?

        Is this conflict the beginning of the BRICS++ – West economic and physical war? China and Russia both are backing the Arab side, although Russia seems busy with another BRICS++ – West confrontation.
        This is already a world war, just not a lot of shooting


    • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

      Stalin gave them one in Siberia – the southern part, so a climate like southern Canada but for naught. They had no interest once Israel was born. They became “Americans” at that point. Communism was only ever a vehicle. Here’s the big secret: So is Capitalism and America.

    • Jarek October 31, 2023 at 2:22 pm #

      I was just thinking about that: Indians are gaining strength in the West and they are all going to be Neo-Conservatives or Neo-Liberals. All for Israel in other words.

      But so are Pakistanis. They will not be for Israel, not really.

      Who will be for the native Whites? No one. There’s no money in it. Enoch Powell warned us – and even then that made him a pariah. Even then! The Plan is deep and well laid.

  69. Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth October 30, 2023 at 10:11 pm #

    It was amazing history to see the first thing the US Congress voted and passed after all the turmoil. Was a bill that Israel had the right to defend itself.

    I don’t think this country, the USA, could make a buck without bombing someone. No we really have one export and that’s