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It’s only taken a week for President Trump to give the body politic an immigration enema. The aim, perhaps, was to flush out a set of bad ideas that Barack Obama had managed over eight years to instate as “normal.” Namely, that it’s unnecessary to enforce the immigration laws, or cruel and unusual to do so, or that national borders are a barbarous anachronism, or that federal laws are optional in certain self-selected jurisdictions.

But Trump’s staff sure fucked up the details carrying out his refugee and immigration ban, most particularly detaining people with green cards, and those already granted visas. The blunder provoked an impressive blowback of airport protests, and finally a stay from a federal judge, which muddied the legality of Trump’s executive order — all in all, a tactical stumble for Prez DT, who apparently omitted to consult with an array of government agencies and their lawyers before issuing the decree at close-of-business Friday. For the record, I’m down with the complaint that Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, and Afghanistan were left off the no-come list, since those lands produce more radical Islamic maniacs than anywhere else.

The reader by now probably detects my ambivalent feelings in this bundle of issues and grievances, so let me try to clarify my basic positions: I think borders matter and they need to be protected. I think our immigration law enforcement under Obama has been deeply dishonest and damaging to our politics in ways that go far beyond the question of who gets to come here. I believe we are under no obligation to take in everybody and anybody who wants to move here. I believe we need an official time out from the high-volume immigration of recent decades. I believe we have good reasons to be picky about who we let in.

The most dishonest and damaging trope of recent years is the widely-accepted idea on the Left that illegal immigrants are merely “undocumented” — as if they were the hapless victims of some clerical error made by the government and therefore deserving of a pass. Language matters. The acceptance and repetition of this lie has in effect given permission to the Left to lie whenever it suits their purposes about all kinds of things, for instance the delusion that Russia stole the election from Hillary Clinton and that Radical Islam doesn’t pose a threat to western values (or even exist). And it is certainly true that they are assisted by legacy media giants such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, and NPR. The Times, especially is keen to provoke a national crisis that might unseat Trump, by simply declaring it so in a three-column headline:

The furor seemed rather out of proportion to the people inconvenienced by Trump’s administrative blundering: about 300 green card holders out of 300,000 travelers admitted over the weekend — even after the White House walked back its green card miscue on Sunday. And it gives the impression even to someone who is allergic to conspiracy theory (yours truly) that some organizing principle is behind it. That principle may be the deep neurosis of the Dem/Prog Left reduced to virtue-signaling in their out-of-power echo chamber. Having no coherent ideas about the immigration issue besides resistance to it, they offer only sentimental narratives: tears on the statue of liberty, “dreamers,” sanctuary cities, nation-of-open-arms, we’re-all-children-of-immigrants, and anyway North America was stolen from the Indians. The hysteria is impressive, as if the Left has come down with ergot poisoning, seeing witches (racists, homophobes, misogynists, white privilege villains, and Russians) behind every juniper shrub in the land.

I’d go as far to say that this neurosis derives from the general psychological boundary problems of the current Dem/Prog ethos. Their zeal to erase categories has resulted in lost categories of thinking — it’s all one big soup of victimization out there now and everybody better rush to cash in their victim brownie points while they still can — or as long as Senator Chuck Schumer can keep the crocodile tears flowing. From my vantage, this country would actually benefit from having firmer categories of thinking and certainly firmer categories of behavior.

What really irks the Left is any defense of Western civilization, especially in something so concrete as demographics. This defensive impulse has been deeply suppressed in the recent political life of Europe and America. On the university campuses, it’s become the equivalent of original sin. Donald Trump turned out to be a peculiar choice to lead a turnaround from all this, and his oafishness may eventually deter an effort to restore something like a self-respecting common culture. But the turnaround is coming to Europe, too, this year in a set of national elections. Expect more civil strife as the battle is joined.

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624 Responses to “Furor Time”

  1. Cold N. Holefield January 30, 2017 at 9:43 am #

    Just as you’ve always asserted how we can’t have an honest discussion about “Race,” we also can’t have an honest discussion about “Immigration.” It’s most unfortunate because this is ONLY THE BEGINNING of THE END and if it’s any indication, we know how this all plays out. Exactly like I knew it would and will. God, if there is one and I kinda doubt there is, help us all. Syria is the future for us all.

    Deferred Emoluments

    Taxonomy & Trumponomics – Revisited

    • Cold N. Holefield January 30, 2017 at 10:01 am #

      I think an equally fitting title would be Führer Time.

      A complete phase out of immigration to America, legal and illegal, is in order if the Liberals are serious about Climate Change and its effects. If they would come clean about the implications of Climate Change and Resource Depletion, then we could start the Honest Discussion we need to have. As a species, we humans have to become less mobile and we need to retract, not grow. Growth means further destruction considering our outdated economics. That also means we can’t keep creating refugees the world over by destabilizing governments and turning countries into failed states. But how do you stop something from doing what’s it’s intended to do and always has done without destroying it? That’s the Million Dollar Question and I’m not sure there’s an answer aside from destroying it.

      • michics January 30, 2017 at 10:12 am #

        Cold, I have been telling friends for a long time that as a species we need to implement some kind of population control worldwide. Maybe similar to what China did a couple decades ago. As Jim has mentioned in the past the middle east is a perfect example of population overshoot. It’s all desert with nothing to support them other than oil.

        • Cold N. Holefield January 30, 2017 at 10:51 am #

          I agree. If we The Little People don’t start discussing this honestly, we can be sure it will be dealt with by those in power in their own unique way, and we both know that unique way won’t have the best interests of we The Little People in mind. So, we The Little People must OWN this issue and many issues just as dire & pressing. Relying on our so-called “Betters” to make it all “good” and “right” is a recipe for an even worse disaster than if we take empowered Egalitarian Action NOW.

          Of course, when you mention Population Control, people freak out and scream Eugenics. Involuntary Eugenics is what we’ll truly get, in one form or another, if we The Little People don’t OWN this & DEAL with it NOW, not LATER.

          I wrote about one dimension of Population Control in this blog post, at least in application to America but I think this equally applies to Europe as well. It will be much tougher to apply this, or any form of Procreation Control, to developed nations and third world countries, obviously. I’m afraid in the case of either of the latter, nature will run its course because those cultures are incredibly recalcitrant when it comes to Procreation Control of any sort.

          Sensible Procreation & Abortion Legislation

          • Cold N. Holefield January 30, 2017 at 10:53 am #

            developing, not developed

          • jackacme February 1, 2017 at 6:00 pm #

            The link between prosperity and not having many kids is pretty well established. All of the developed world is either below replacement or nearly there. And it has nothing to do with race: look at Japan, a country that is deeply opposed to immigration and has a shrinking population. Unfortunately, since our prosperity is tied to an always growing economy we have a bit of a pickle. Continued growth is unsustainable no matter what the cornucopians think, at least long term, but we have no plan for a soft landing to some viable alternative.

          • thwack February 2, 2017 at 10:48 pm #

            “Unfortunately, since our prosperity is tied to an always growing economy we have a bit of a pickle. Continued growth is unsustainable no matter what the cornucopians think, at least long term, but we have no plan for a soft landing to some viable alternative.”


            May be we should generate more types of existence where you can live well without a bunch of wealth…?

            Thats what I got from Jim’s “structured existence” comment.

        • outsider January 30, 2017 at 10:58 am #

          Population control would be fine, but not if only whites agreed to do it. Actually whites world-wide have gone too far with pop. control, since white women are having far less than needed for replacement rate.

          • thwack January 30, 2017 at 12:52 pm #


            I’ll ask you the question no white person seems to be able and/or willing to answer:

            What percentage of the global population should be composed of white people?

        • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 2:24 pm #

          There is no global mechanism to make that happen – unless you accept the machinations of the Globalists to kill Civilization but stay on top as they power it down. There is however such a thing as Nations with borders. If the West enforced its borders, the problem would solve itself. Whites are not the problem after all: Black Africans and Muslims are. Let their populations crash thru war and starvation. Or would you kill everything you love with your weak sympathy? Because they intent to overwhelm us and turn our Nations into the horror that they are.

        • Ishabaka January 30, 2017 at 3:34 pm #

          Fantastic idea – let’s do “what China did a couple decades ago”, and throw our newborn infant girls down wells! And while we’re at it, why not have a Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution and bump off a few tens of millions – then we’d be cooking with gas!

        • JimInFlorida January 30, 2017 at 4:32 pm #

          michics, what had been externally imposed on China was not for population control as we would normally think. It was to reduce the national overhead of raising up children and to extract the maximum labor value out of China for the period of one generation (~40 years). Kissinger and his Jew buddies imposed that little condition in order to bring the Corporate Promised Land of China into reality. The high profits extracted out of China over the past 30 years were precisely from reducing the overhead of raising children.

          While the Chinese people are highly productive, the Arabs and Semites of the Middle East are not. They consume much and produce little, save for the oil infrastructure that the British and American companies developed for them. THEY will have a population overshoot problem!

          If there is a colossal waste of resources, it is in the support and indulgence of the Top 1%. Claw back their ill-gotten gains, impose a No Billionaire Policy, and there will be plenty of money to spend on great projects, like fresh water capture systems in the Greenland ice caps. Capture and distribute all that fresh water to where it’s needed.

      • sooty January 30, 2017 at 11:35 am #

        Agree–population needs to be checked. I’ve done my part by not having kids–and have never had a second’s regret. Let some other species live for chrissakes.

        Immigration also needs rethinking. Emma Lazarus wrote her poem during rapid industrialization of this country, and that no longer applies, nor should it, given the environmental consequences. The US needs to admit its role in causing migrations–environmental, economic, etc.

        Immigration is too often a binary argument: open borders or closed. What if the US:
        a) stops destabilizing other countries, both militarily and financially, through unpayable loans and corporate takeovers/destruction of land, water, etc.;
        b) develops decentralized programs to help people in their own countries. For example, a US town is getting a lot of illegal migrants from a particular area of Country X (and immigrants tend to cluster where there are other people from their region). This US town figures out what they (and their state, etc.) are spending on services to these immigrants. Townspeople also learn from the migrants themselves what the problems are in that region of Country X. The town develops a sister-city relationship that helps with microloans, infrastructure, whatever.

        People generally don’t want to leave their cultures, families, and traditions, but they have to be able to support themselves.There are constructive ways to do that. As for Syrians, I’ve been impressed by the refugees shown on news reports–articulate, many of them skilled. Certainly more so than the average Trumpster. They’re so desperate–people at that level of humanitarian need should be let in.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

          First of all, we are under no obligation to help these people – people who often hate us. Thus all charity should be voluntary and not theft via Federal funded (taxpayer funded) foreign aid. There’s NOTHING in the Constitution about that.

          Secondly, the Hijra or Migration is an integral part of Islam. It works in tandem with Jihad as a way of spreading it with the ultimate goal of world conquest. I mean didn’t all those young men streaming into Europe in designer clothes ring even one warning bell in you head? They aren’t Syrian refugees since most aren’t Syrian and they aren’t fleeing anything. Something like sixty thousand of the two million have gotten jobs btw. Most aren’t literate even in Arabic what to speak of anything else. And there are no jobs anyway. Any jobs they get simply put Europeans out of work. But of course you prefer to believes sob stories. Your sentimentality and your hatred of White Americans make you very easy to fool.

          • outsider January 30, 2017 at 7:59 pm #

            Trump’s idea of giving immigration preference to Christians makes complete sense. That’s why the Leftists snowflakes hate it. To hell with those loons who say we can’t have a religious test to enter here. Obama did nothing for the Christians his whole time in office, even though he “supposedly” was one. The Syrian Christians are probably better educated and will be easier to assimilate. There was so much said and written about the genocide of Christians in Syria that I am surprised that any are still alive.

          • jloughrey January 31, 2017 at 2:53 am #

            There’s also nothing in the Constitution about going around the world and bombing any country we see fit. It used to be that an act of war would be declared and voted on by Congress. Obama set the precedent of drone bombing a country without the formal declaration of war. Under his administration, we were engaged in war in 5-7 countries, depending on your source. So much for his Nobel Peace Prize. Most of these displaced refugees were created by our own government.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 10:44 am #

            Obama had plenty of precedent for his unilateral exercise of executive power. The declaration of war has effectively been a dead letter since the end of WW2, when Truman set up the modern national security state. The rationale was that with the atomic bomb, the president might be called on to react to a nuclear attack with only minutes of warning.

            This was a major change to the constitutional order — read Garry Wills’ Bomb Power if you’re really interested. Also, the just released edition of Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History podcast covers this in some detail.

          • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:05 pm #

            Unless you are willing to extend the concept that all foreign aid should be voluntary charity and not taxpayer-funded, to apply also to the billions that we taxpayers are forced to hand over to Israel every year, I will assume that you are in fact the racist hypocrite you sound like.

          • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

            See my reply below. It should have appeared here.

          • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:09 pm #

            Okay I am replying to Skorenzy but this pos website is not working right.

          • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:11 pm #

            My bad. I see that it worked. Not used to wasting my time here. Sorry.

          • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 10:20 am #

            bentley12, there is simply no point either denouncing Janos for his bigotry or trying to take him on on the merits. The rot runs too deep — he can stay a racist bigot far longer than you can stay sane. I limit myself to speaking for the record, plus the occasional tweak at his expense because mocking him makes me feel good.

            You might think this is unworthy of me, but you’d be wrong. Thomas Aquinas reasoned that the saved in Heaven know perfectly the sufferings of the damned and take pleasure in it. This must be the case, he reasoned, because the bliss of heaven must encompass all perfections, including the knowledge of what they have been saved from. If schadenfreude is good enough for the saved, it’s good enough for me. And on that note: Fuck you, Janos.

      • michigan_native January 30, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

        Yes, why the hell do we open the floodgates and allow all the people from the Phillipines, Nigeria, India, and all these other shit holes and banana republics when there are not enough jobs to go around for the people that have already been here? Many of those sons of bitches go to college in their native countries just to get jobs here and drive down our wages by flooding the labor market. And you know if the situation were reversed and we tried to get jobs over there, they would come swinging out of the trees with spears, blow guns, AKs, RCPs, etc Ban all immigration legal or illegal I say!

        • ffkling January 30, 2017 at 7:50 pm #

          There’s something else being left out of the discussion. The wealth of a society is a direct function of the trust social compact that exists. When you allow waves of immigration to enter from poor areas of the world where fraud and deceit are rampant, these characteristics end up being imported as well and over time begin to erode the amount of social cohesion that exists.

        • JimInFlorida January 31, 2017 at 10:16 am #

          I have mentioned REPEATEDLY about the root cause of our insane Open Door immigration policy from 3rd World countries.

          The *****DIVERSITY VISA PROGRAM****** which is the centerpiece of the 1990 Immigration Act!

          That f-ing globalist, coward, and bootlicker to his Jew minders, GHW Bush Sr, signed that infamous Act into law. People forget what an abomination Bush Sr. was.

          Until President Trump openly addresses and condemns the DIVERSITY VISA PROGRAM, then all of his Exec Orders will eventually fail. He needs to use his E.O. to lock down that Program, then work his way back to nullifying or neutralizing all prior immigration laws that echo the original Anti-White plan: the 1965 Hart-Celler Act.

          • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:35 pm #

            A bit anti-Semitic there, right Jimmy boy?

          • JimInFlorida February 1, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

            With no apologies, Mr. Bentley.

        • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:14 pm #

          Americans are too stupid and poorly educated to qualify for the jobs that foreigners are taking here. Most Americans, especially Trump supporters are functionally illiterate.

      • kulturcritic January 31, 2017 at 8:30 am #

        Jim, Since when are you a defender of Western Civilization? LOL

        • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:32 pm #

          I support Western civilization, but I am also aware that it has plenty to be ashamed of: enslavement of African Americans, genocide of American Indians, colonization and theft of resources of other peoples mainly in Africa, Mid East, India, religious wars and persecutions during the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Holocaust, all perpetrated by the supposedly “civilized” West.

    • orbit7er January 31, 2017 at 8:53 am #

      OK lets be fact based which I know Kunstler respects:

      Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, no one has been killed in the United States in a terrorist attack by anyone who emigrated from or whose parents emigrated from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, the seven countries targeted in the order’s 120-day visa ban, according to Charles Kurzman, a sociology professor at the University of North Carolina.
      Muslim attacks were responsible for only 1/3 of 1% of all US murders in 2016 according to Charles Kurzman’s study
      Read the study here:


      There is NO terrorist threat because it can take 18 months to 2 years for the vetting for these countries already…
      As far as this phrase “the delusion that …Radical Islam doesn’t pose a threat to western values”- the biggest threat to Western values of freedom of speech, religion and freedom from spying has been the endless Wars on Terrorism begun by George W Bush with the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions extended by Obama to the new Wars in Libya, Syria and the coup in Ukraine. Osama Bin Laden succeeded after all in provoking the US Empire into overkill which has led to hate and terrorist attacks ironically by American citizens who served in the military stewed in hate by the relentless bombings and killings of relatives in their background countries.
      I have been friends and worked with Muslims for years – they are no more threats than Christians some of whom like TImothy McVeigh or Dylan Roof have committed horrible atrocities. Indeed it is white Christian males wielding legal assault weapons who have committed almost all the attacks occurring about every month massacring schoolchildren, theater goers, churches for years.
      THAT is the threat!
      When we will stop allowing assault weapons and ammunition to be sold in the US?

      • Ron Anselmo January 31, 2017 at 5:13 pm #

        If we’re being fact based and honest, here’s a threat. The vast majority of “shooters” are on anti-depressants, SSRI’s. I’m certainly no genius, but I have to believe that is a contributing factor. How about we stop allowing wholesale distribution of anti-depressants. What say you Big Pharma? What say you AMA? Nary a word is mentioned about this link in the MSM, as millions and millions of dollars of advertising revenue would simply evaporate. The MSM must obey their corporate masters at all costs, even the costs of our lives.

      • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 10:23 am #

        orbit7er: “OK lets be fact based which I know Kunstler respects.”

        Did you listen to the most recent podcast? JHK pays no attention to the postings on his Facebook page, and I assume the case is pretty much similar here (he may check in for a couple of hours after posting, but that’s it).

        This is pretty much a yelling society.

  2. thwack January 30, 2017 at 9:43 am #

    “Donald Trump turned out to be a peculiar choice to lead a turnaround from all this, and his oafishness may eventually deter an effort to restore something like a self-respecting common culture.”


    Yeah Jim; especially given his propensity to marry women who sound like Dracula.

    • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:16 pm #

      And look like space aliens from Area 51.

  3. lsjogren January 30, 2017 at 9:45 am #

    This is the most intelligent commentary on Trump’s executive order I have seen anywhere.

    • GetAbike January 30, 2017 at 4:22 pm #

      Yes! and with only a hint of the white victim mentality he so persistently accuses the Left of having!

      • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

        Accuses ? Describing the oppression Olympics the Left has been engaging in for the last 15 years is not an empty accusation, it’s an accurate representation of reality.
        In fact I think Jim underplays the intensity of it, if anything.

  4. Walter B January 30, 2017 at 9:48 am #

    Aye Jim, there’s the rub, eh? Change nothing, problems never get solved. Make changes, even more problems arise. There can be no winners here unless you count the army of lawyers who will rake in hundreds of billions on either action OR inaction, and in the end, the problems will be just as bad or worse, the bag of money will be empty, and it will be our problem to fill it back up again with either todays earnings or by leveraging the future to get more today. A corrupt system can only produce corrupt byproducts. What this new administration is certainly accomplishing, and right quickly I might add, is to set the couch and the mattresses on fire to call to attention to the fact that the house is on fire. We can only wonder how long it will take for all of the sellout scumbags to leave the burning building with as much of the valuables they can carry, leaving us, the real and chronic losers, inside to perish. That is how it works and how it always has worked.

    • shotho January 30, 2017 at 11:09 am #

      There are indications they have already left the building. Reports are that there is a rush on buying remote islands and building airstrips on them to accommodate their traffic.

  5. mdl17576 January 30, 2017 at 9:48 am #

    A nation that can’t control it’s sphincters will inevitably get filled up with shit.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 10:04 am #

      People are not shit. No one’s asking you to like immigrants, but give them their due as human beings.

      • mdl17576 January 30, 2017 at 10:31 am #

        Not currently, but in a more sustainable world we will be fertilizing our soils with excrement. Food for the plants that feed us. We are what we eat. I’d rather be shit than petrochemical residue.

        • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 10:45 am #

          It seems I took you to be saying something you weren’t? The context of today’s post suggested you were talking about immigrants. If you were talking about the waste products of industrial society instead, then I agree with you (and apologize for berating you in that case).

          • mdl17576 January 30, 2017 at 10:55 am #

            We should all aspire to be shit, I just prefer locally made shit to imported. My original comment probably came off as shitlording, though mostly was trying to keep the border/sphincter metaphor coherent.

      • messianicdruid January 30, 2017 at 10:47 am #

        Their “due as human beings” is a birthright in a birthplace. If they allow their fellows to screw that up why give them a promotion?

        Sweep your own doorstep before you go sweep ( or put a welcome mat on ) your neighbors.

        • Greg Knepp January 30, 2017 at 2:42 pm #

          Generally, I agree. But the opposite view is expressed thusly:

          “When a foreigner resides in your land, do not mistreat him. He must be treated as your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were once foreigners in Egypt.”
          Leviticus 19: 33-34

          What saith thou?

          • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

            When A foreigner. THE stranger. How do preachers go from these singulars to applying them to the swarms of locusts that now threaten us?

            Judaism or at least modern Orthodoxy, interprets this as Jews from other countries. Non Jews have no such rights or claims on compassion. When asked how they can treat their Palestinian neighbors so poorly, they simply reply, “They aren’t our neighbors.”

          • messianicdruid January 30, 2017 at 5:54 pm #

            That is not an “opposite” view. It means exactly what it says. He has the same right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”, as I, with the same admonitions.

            My contention is that acclimation, or assimulation, if you will, be restricted to the time frame of 3 generations [ or ten ] to avoid undue influence of other gods [ rule – makers ]. The foreigner would serve his own, and long-term himself, by earning wealth and wisdom with which to bless home.

            Worship is mistreatment.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 12:39 am #

            Janos: “swarms of locusts”.

            More dehumanizing, eliminationist language. Casting human beings as vermin is a necessary step toward treating them as vermin, which is the stuff of crimes against humanity. This will never end on this site. I’ll just have to keep calling it out.

        • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

          Their due as human beings begins with recognizing with them as human beings, not as excrement. If we don’t even expect that of ourselves, then our doorstep does indeed need sweeping.

          • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 5:37 pm #

            Elrond, being Canadian, specializes in empty moral posturing.
            Many Canadians have perfected the art of virtue signaling, and Elrond is a shining example.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 12:05 am #

            It’s not empty moral posturing to call people out on bad behaviour. Although in this cesspit, it sometimes feels like trying to sweep water uphill.

          • Walter B February 2, 2017 at 5:05 pm #

            Gee whiz Elmo, you certainly come off as being perhaps overly sensitive to the bantering of words. This is a rather well contained blog IMHO and posters, for the most part show far more respect to one another than we probably all deserve. Immigrants that leave the countries that they were born in to go someplace else that seems more promising often make their new homes better through hard work, and compromise and assimilation into their new cultures. Some bring violence, rape and mayhem and those who do may rightly referred to as excrement again IMHO and in the HO of anyone else that prefers cooperation over occupation. Try not to be so angry, please. You have a lovely country, relax and enjoy it.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 2:52 pm #

        A weed is any plant in a place that you don’t want it. These people are weeds in the Garden of Our Nation. Shit would be far more valuable since it serves a purpose in the Garden. Muslims? Black Africans? East Asians? They serve no purpose and never will.

        Your attempt to conflate the Global Village with individual Nation States is both grotesque and invidious. Their due as human beings? Send them back and stop lying to them about “America” being some kind of grab bag for them.

        • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:49 pm #

          The level of hatred, racism, and ignorance in these discussions is absolutely off the charts. I feel embarrassed for JHK. I wonder if he realizes that he has attracted a clutch of alt-right nationalists and hate mongers by his own more mildly right wing views. At the very least, I don’t see how he tolerates the anti-Semitism he has inadvertently released. Maybe he just refrains from reading this trash.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:01 pm #

            In other words, you believe Whites should have no rights, certainly not the right to have their own nations as all other peoples do. America has zero chance of survival as long as it is in the hands of hate filled fanatics like bentley – who lacks even the pride to capitalize his own name, yet is full of arrogance nonetheless.

            How different is the humble pride of a Janos from the proud humility of a bentley!

      • Cavepainter January 30, 2017 at 9:11 pm #

        OK, OK,……what’s your point, that our immigration policies and laws should default to however many foreign nationals choose to come here in disregard to them? Please, there’s no time for sentimental platitudes about “their due”; the simple fact is that even without a nuclear exchange (which becomes ever more likely as rogue parties gain control of them) human survival is getting ever more improbable. And know what, prospect at all will have nothing to do with (as in country music) “somebody done somebody wrong” in referencing history, but to the cruel coincidence of where ratio of population to sustainable resources remain. Population redistribution will only cancel out those few locations of prospect. It is the advantage of Western Culture though– not happenstace — that accounts for those areas of lingering prospect all being where European influence is dominant.

        • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 8:31 am #

          My point is that calling human beings ‘shit’, or locusts, or any number of other epithets regularly used in this forum, prepares us to treat them as subhuman. Language matters.

    • Yuri Sowryteski January 30, 2017 at 8:05 pm #

      mdl17576 and Elrond ~ really enjoyed this exchange.

    • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:41 pm #

      You sound like a real racist piece of shit yourself. Too bad this country can’t rid itself of you.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:03 pm #

        Define racist – if you can without making a complete ass out of your horrible self.

  6. FincaInTheMountains January 30, 2017 at 9:59 am #

    In US there is a constitutional crisis. Allegedly. President Trump issued a decree on extreme scrutiny of Muslims coming to the US from 7 Muslim countries with a history of terrorism: Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Somalia and Sudan.

    Media represent this as a ban on entry into the United States for refugees arriving from these countries, including those who have a Green Card for legal residence in the United States. Christian refugees from these countries are allowed to enter, the more that the Hillary Clinton administration strongly sabotaged entry of Christians and there accumulated many of them in anticipation of entry permits.

    The judge in Brooklyn has suspended sending back those who were detained at airports and Media reports of mass protests of Muslims.

    A friend of mine living in Brooklyn have not seen any protests, although yesterday specifically went to Union Square for their detection and monitoring. Three men and one woman in a headscarf with some leaflet in hand, he actually saw. Before them stood the square-bearded man in a leather jacket and, poking his index finger in the chest one of the men explained that protests at airports is a federal offence, and he replied something about the Tiananmen Square, although my friend has not seen any tanks ready to crush the protesters.

    Behind the bearded guy there were young men wearing black glasses, which 3 years ago were wearing the protesting students of West Point. As far as my friend could understand from discussion, army supports Trump with both hands, especially his refusal to listen to the CIA and the prohibition for a number of intelligence chiefs to present at the anti-terrorist meeting.

    That’s right, Trump has banned a number of heads of intelligence to be at the meetings on the fight against terrorism!!!

    If something happens to Trump, the building of these intelligence services will be simply taken by storm, and speaking about the torture, Trump was referring to the very people who will go out of those buildings with their hands up.

    Soon there will be tweeted reports of secret prisons for CIA operatives! Unfucking believable how far everything had gone!

    This is due to the fact that the so-called refugees from those countries are in fact ISIS militants returning to the US in order to arrange a civil war. I honestly thought that ban on Muslim entry into United States is pure propaganda campaign on Trump’s behalf on the principle “The man said – the man did,” but I did not notice a shadow of a smile on face of a guy, who explained me about the terrorists.

    By the way, regarding mentioning of the Tiananmen Square: one of the young men in glasses said that if it were not for Tiananmen Square, China today would lay in ruins, the dead would be counted by tens of millions, and China would be ruled by the worst dictator, in comparison with which Mao Zedong is a pussy liberal.

    That is, the guy associates himself and Democracy with the tanks from Inner Mongolia, and not with the students in the square.

    With regard to the tens of millions of losses, in fact that is exactly what happened in the former Soviet Union in the 90s, where the population is much less than in China.

  7. michics January 30, 2017 at 10:01 am #

    I agree Jim. My problem with Trump is his lack of any kind methodical business approach to governing. Instead he just hits everything with a sledge hammer and then watches to see what happens. The general public wants to see changes. Just not sure this is the proper approach. Likely to cause more problems for him in the future. I also believe there will be a major battle with the GOP congress on funding all of his directives. Then watch him throw tantrams because he can’t get his way. Fasten your seat belts, it’s going to be interesting.

    • noel bodie January 30, 2017 at 11:03 am #

      Ian Masters calls it “governing by stunt”. This proclamation is the latest example. Immigration is complicated and varied. M E is diff from Mexico. One size does not fit all…no tube socks here. Mexico has been governed by a one party elite for almost 100 years. Those oligarchs have not seen fit to create a working economy for all their people. Add NAFT and cheap American corn imports that displaced thousands of small farmers and presto..an immigration problem. How about pressuring Mexico to stop exporting oil to US and use that energy to create a working economy?

  8. venuspluto67 January 30, 2017 at 10:04 am #

    A YouTube personality known as “Sargon of Akkad” has an interesting take on the temporary seven-country ban that I hope everybody will hear and consider despite the video’s length (about thirty-six minutes). The upshot is that Trump is utilizing power granted to him by an Obama-era law, and it was Obama who chose the seven countries upon which such a temporary immigration-ban would be imposed. (Let’s face it, Saudi Arabia will always get a free pass because we buy so much oil from them and they use a lot of the oil-money from us to buy many truckloads of US-manufactured arms.)

    While I think there is too much emotional overreaction from the left about this based on “Evil Trump” hysteria, I don’t really agree with the need for the ban. Immigrants from these countries are already subjected to quite a bit of vetting, unlike the waves of migrants from the MENA region that many European countries have admitted to their own great detriment.

    • noel bodie January 30, 2017 at 10:47 am #

      Trump unleashes a shit storm then blames it on Obama. Remember how the reds blamed the meltdown on Clinton? Dejavu baby!

    • outsider January 30, 2017 at 11:15 am #

      Venus – I’m aware of Sargon but haven’t seen the video. It was even reported today on CBS This Morning that Trump was just enforcing the law that Obama refused to implement. But the Left was OK with everything Obama did even though he was the only 8-year president who oversaw nothing but war for his entire tenure. WWIII would even be OK with them as long as Hillary was president and they got to keep their transgender bathrooms.

      • venuspluto67 January 30, 2017 at 2:11 pm #

        I know. I think we need to start making a distinction between “the mind-controlled left” and the “knows-WTF-is-going-on left”. There is a difference!

        If Hillary could have been the perfect midpoint between a hawk and a dove instead of the war-mongering harridan she actually is, I could have been talked into holding my nose while voting Democrat one last time. But no, the Democrats had to shoot themselves and the country in the foot as badly as possible, as per their usual.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

          The Left has always been dominated by useful idiots as Stalin and Lenin admitted. Only the insane believe in egalitarianism or equal treatment for unequal people. It’s Tyranny.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

            “We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

            The words of the Declaration of Independence, or a close paraphrase. Janos is already on record as calling these words a meaningless rhetorical flourish, even though the overwhelming majority of his countrymen since 1776 have been dedicated to realizing them in practice. Here he does so once again and re-affirms his anti-Americanism.

          • JimInFlorida January 30, 2017 at 5:10 pm #

            Even the brilliance of the Founding Fathers could not have foreseen what arose in the late 20th century and the horror that it morphed into in the 21st. The prospect of treating Islam as an equal to Christianity was utterly absurd to them. They had no idea that Christianity would commit suicide and then resurrect itself as Jewdeo-Xtianity.

            Only President John Adams heard his spiritual alarm going off and saw the poison pill buried in the U.S. Constitution:

            “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.”

            The Anglo-Christian identity of the once dominant body-politic is true Americanism. It may have been suppressed over the past 50+ years but, it is still the only legitimate expression of Americanism. Janos is right.

          • messianicdruid January 30, 2017 at 8:42 pm #

            Men are created equal *before the law*. False gods [ rule-makers, ie. Nicolaitans ] would have us believe this is anything they make up. Men do not have authority to make law, only to enforce it.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 12:18 am #

            messianicdruid: “Men do not have authority to make law, only to enforce it.”

            This is likewise a rejection of the founding principles of the USA. Your constitution makes no mention of any higher power or lawgiver and has never required one in order to function. In fact it was written as a repudiation of monarchs who claimed to rule by divine right. It explicitly denies Congress any power to legislate an established religion, and mandates that there shall be no religious tests for public office. If men have no authority to make law, then your constitution might as well be toilet paper, because it sure as hell wasn’t handed down on Mount Sinai.

          • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 8:56 pm #

            That’s rich coming from a right winger, who are the biggest useful idiots of all, for having been conned by the showman Trump.

          • messianicdruid January 31, 2017 at 10:39 pm #

            “If men have no authority to make law, then your constitution might as well be toilet paper, because it sure as hell wasn’t handed down on Mount Sinai.”

            I don’t worship the Constitution. It may be the best government men have ever come up with but it is by no means perfect. It is a covenant between those who rule over those who are aware of no other choice.

            All law is subject to higher law. This is a maxim of law. If a rule, statute, judgement or executive order is contrary to or attempts to set aside a higher law it is null and void from it’s inception.

            There is a lot of null and void stuff going around. My people are destroyed all the day long for lack of knowledge. What you don’t know won’t help you.

    • cbeard January 31, 2017 at 5:57 am #

      Will it ever sink in. Overpopulation IS the problem. It is the only reason needed for an immigration ban. A total moratorium, not for a few months, but for fifty years or so. Vetting be damned.

      • baird January 31, 2017 at 9:40 am #

        Yes , it is the problem, a problem so difficult for most to accept because of the hardwired ideas about growth and expansion embedded in human nature and hence our economic and social systems. Ideas of equilibrium, stewardship, etc are simply dismissed as weak minded drivel. Kicking ass and taking names may have served us at one time but now likely will mean our extinction.

        • outsider January 31, 2017 at 10:15 am #

          Totally agree, Baird. As our host, Mr. K, has been reporting for years, belief in endless “growth and expansion” will spell our doom. Neither monopoly political party yet realizes it. By ignoring the problem, they are bringing about our downfall all the sooner.

  9. K-Dog January 30, 2017 at 10:05 am #

    The common idea for years seems to have been that there is infinite room for any and all that want to come to America. The idea that immigrants actually consume resources, jobs and space and that there are some Americans who might actually want and need the jobs and spaces new residents consume has been heresy to the lotus eaters of power in Washington for far too long.

    I doubt Trumps immigration actions has any sound basis in ideology and is more than a result of irrational fear than anything else but the fact is American has not taken care of its own while bending over backwards to accommodate strangers for years.

    Take care of family first, then friends, and then if you have any love or treasure left over to share, the help everyone else. It is the natural order of things but our privileged elite not thinking our flyover states needed things like jobs or that they were inhabited by other Americans with actual needs ignored this natural order. I hope Trump stops the ridiculous sale of citizenship to anyone with a big enough investment nut to buy there way into American and that he also stops our H1-B programs which has been stealing jobs from qualified Americans for years. Some of these qualified Americans have student loans and would like a job to pay them off.

    Not all billionaires feel as Trump does about immigration and some of the people who financed his campaign are all about getting the cheapest workers into American that they can. This could get more interesting than it already is.

    Regarding the DAPL which Trump has also touched by an executive order I wrote a ‘ premium comment’ on my bulletin board at my website on Saturday.

    • K-Dog January 30, 2017 at 10:08 am #

      Take care of family first, then friends, and then if you have any love or treasure left over to share, then help everyone else.

      A mistake worth fixing because the concept is worth repeating.

  10. goatgirl January 30, 2017 at 10:07 am #

    In his first few days, the big dupe, Trump, issued several extreme executive orders. Two that the press have grabbed and run with are;
    1. That the DAPL and Keystone XS pipelines were approved.
    2. That there be greater security examination of Muslims entering the US.

    Number one was covered last week. That coverage is over.

    The second resulted in huge tie-ups at airports, the detaining of previously vetted immigrants (green card holders, airline staff, and students) and a fresh round of media-hyped protests. Lester Holt and Dan Rather (and all other news stations) are blowing up the TV sets of anyone who will lend an eyeball and an ear. Their story is that T’rump is banning all Muslims based on their religion….Discrimination! Racism! Run for the hills! Forgetting to mention that, aside from the airport mess and the detainment of approved persons mess, there is no news here. Trump is not banning, nor has he said he will be banning, all Muslims. This a huge paper tiger.

    Do you think we’re being distracted from item number one?
    Let them get angry, then redirect it.

    • noel bodie January 30, 2017 at 10:49 am #

      You goat girl. Absofrickinlutely right.

    • bibliomaniac January 30, 2017 at 11:29 am #

      goatgirl–We’re on the same page. Remember the Ogallala Aquifer that supplies 33 percent of the groundwater for irrigation for crops in the US? The Keystone XL pipeline will run over it somewhere in Nevada. What could possibly go wrong?

      Remember Naomi Klein’s theory in “The Shock Doctrine” that one crisis is created to camouflage another? The political class is now prepared to take advantage of the very chaos they created by promoting policies which benefit themselves and their wealthy benefactors–and this includes BOTH parties..

      As Mark Twain remarked “there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress.”

      • noel bodie January 30, 2017 at 11:57 am #


      • HappyMoto66 January 30, 2017 at 12:06 pm #

        Mate we could discus the merit of your post, but you negated that possibility by skipping geography in your school days. I can state emphatically that the Ogalla Aquifer will never be damaged by a pipeline that runs nowhere near Nevada. Oh! Maybe you confuse Nebraska with Nevada? This country is covered with a lattice of pipelines, they are certainly more efficient, and more environmental than Mr Buffet’s rail tank cars.

        The rest of your post, particularly the Mark Twain reference seems spot-on to me.

        • bibliomaniac January 30, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

          HappyMoto66–You got me there! Not much good on geography, but I think you skipped English–



      • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

        bibliomaniac: “Remember the Ogallala Aquifer that supplies 33 percent of the groundwater for irrigation for crops in the US? The Keystone XL pipeline will run over it somewhere in [Nebraska]. What could possibly go wrong?”

        Who knows, it might even be depleted before the oil gets a chance to spill:

        “[A] 2014 USGS study … found there was a drop of 15.4 feet in the system from predevelopment times (before 1950) to 2013, with 2.1 feet of that loss occurring between 2011 and 2013. So, that’s 13.6 percent of the loss occurring in just two out of the 60-plus years studied….”

        Although the timing seems unlikely:

        “[A] 2013 study forecasted that the High Plains Aquifer would be 69 percent depleted by 2060.”


        We’ll definitely be done with petroleum before then.

        Janos: “The Spice must flow, goat.”

        Said Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, and we all know how that fat fuck ended up. Or maybe it was the Emperor, what was his name? Oh yeah: Shaddam. Which one of those parts is Janos volunteering for? Either way, I’d pay to see it.

      • Poolside_at_the_Decline February 1, 2017 at 3:57 am #

        RE:“there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress.”

        “Politics is the entertainment wing of the military-industrial complex”
        –Frank Zappa

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:04 pm #

      The Spice must flow, goat. The Indians had input into where the pipeline would go. The protests were funded from on high because certain billionaires prefer trucks because they own the companies. Pipes are much safer than trucks, btw. Goat grok?

      • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 9:06 pm #

        One truck spill would not poison an entire aquifer. A ruptured pipeline very well could. Pipes are not safer than trucks. We need to move away from fossil fuels altogether. This whole pipes vs trucks argument is moot.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:06 pm #

          You’ve never been cold in your life. Coal is the future – we have enough for centuries. That will give us time enough to find something else, if indeed there is anything else to be found.

          Needless to say, you would burn your own house if that’s what it took to stay warm and alive. Stop being so silly.

  11. troutbum2 January 30, 2017 at 10:12 am #

    Quoting from the article I cited :”Empirically, domestic terrorism is carried out by citizens—not immigrants—with right-wing terrorism, racial hate crimes, and the sovereign-citizen movement making up a majority of domestic terrorist incidents,” said Joel Day, assistant professor of security and global studies at the University of Massachusetts Lowell. “Other domestic incidents have indeed been carried out by those who came here through legal channels.’’

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

      In other words, we have enough problems already without importing more. Or do you agree with replacing the White populations of the West with other races? In which case, the so called right wing terrorism may simply be rational self defense.

      • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 9:10 pm #

        You are so full of shit. Race is a purely cultural construct. Your white nationalism and racism are truly disgusting. You must be late for your Klan meeting.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:10 pm #

          Why are all the sprinting records held by Blacks of West African descent then? And all the distance ones by Blacks of East African descent (I believe)? Why do some medicines work on one race and not another? Why are Blacks the most violent wherever they go – including Great Britain where they went by choice as well as their own lands in Africa? Why did they never invent the wheel or writing? And so forth.

          Race is far closer to being everything than nothing. But we’re not that fanatical. We’re not the reverse image of you environmentalist/blank slaters.

  12. Greg Knepp January 30, 2017 at 10:12 am #

    This is, by far, the most lucid treatment of the immigration crisis that I’ve read…and I’ve read a few!

    You mention ambivalence. There’s a hell of a lot of that going around.
    One might say that we are living in ‘The Age of Ambivalence’. *

    * you saw it here first!

    • GetAbike January 30, 2017 at 4:30 pm #

      Ya, ambivalence.- Kinda reminds me of the adage about “when they came for____ (in this case certain muslims), I did/said nothing…” you could add, “because of my ambivalence.”

  13. sprawlcapital January 30, 2017 at 10:24 am #

    We are a nation of immigrants, that’s true. But it’s also true that times change.

    When my father came to America, in 1938, our population was about 130 million. Today we number over 300 million. And each of us has a larger footprint on the land than 75 years ago. In 1938 we were a nation of compact cities and towns and small farms. We had a superb transportation system consisting of railroads and streetcars. Urban sprawl had not been invented–we would have to wait until after 1945 for that catastrophe.

    Now we have too many people. We do not need more.

    • malthuss January 30, 2017 at 10:36 am #

      We are a nation of immigrants, that’s true.

      NO, THAT IS A LIE.
      The nation was built by settlers and now is being taken by Colonists.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 10:54 am #

        Nonsense. Of course the U.S. is a nation of immigrants. What, did the Mayflower just sprout one day on the shores of Massachusetts?

        • shotho January 30, 2017 at 11:17 am #

          So what? The Mayflower was centuries ago. When do its descendants stop being immigrants and start being citizens? For that matter, when did the Native Americans start coming to these shores from Asia and why aren’t they continuing to be called immigrants?

          • thwack January 30, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

            The reason Native Americans are owners instead of immigrants is because their ancestors were the first people buried on the land.

            The concept is a type of ancient global common law understood and accepted by all;

            except the white man.

            Just sayin.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

            Ah Thwack, that is unworthy of you. The Bantu have been savaging the other peoples of Black Africa for thousands of years as they spread East and South. And what about the endless Muslim Jihad against Black Africa? Only the White Man? Shameless and Shameful.

            Satan is Rex Mundi – King of this World. All are under his sway. All Land is Sword Land!

        • JimInFlorida January 30, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

          EH, the fatal flaw in your reasoning is the assertion that all immigrants are equal in their quality. That is the toxic swill of Jewish academicians and their friends in the media. TV shows have been pushing that New Leftist rhetoric for the past 50 years.

          A nation is like a garden. If one wants to grow quality flowers and vegetables, then the gardeners must first try to PREVENT the intrusion of weeds and pests, then actively remove those that get in. Some kinds of diversity are compatible and a good gardener knows what works. That’s the way it used to be before the 1965 Hart-Celler Act and succeeding anti-White immigration Acts.

          Jewish social engineers have this sick and depraved obsession with introducing weeds, grubs, and other pests into the national garden to satisfy their perverse idea of “DIVERSITY.” The pests have every right to be here and the gardener has no right to stop it. He is not even allowed to even THINK that his now ruined garden is anything but beautiful.

          • elysianfield January 30, 2017 at 6:39 pm #

            “EH, the fatal flaw in your reasoning is the assertion that all immigrants are equal in their quality”

            Negative that. I did suggest, however, that in groups of immigrants from various cultures, there would be, in each, a certain number that might be productive and assimilate…in effect, having the potential to become good citizens, if properly vetted…

            There is NOTHING that I would suggest be equal qualitatively among a group from any culture…please provide a reference to that statement. I suggest that the individual not be colored by the failures of any specific culture…that’s the vetting thang…and it is up to us to judge.

          • elysianfield January 30, 2017 at 6:42 pm #

            EH/EF…my mistake.

          • outsider January 30, 2017 at 8:50 pm #

            Jim – Your analogy of a nation being like a garden brought to mind Peter Sellers, as Chance the Gardener, in the great movie “Being There.” Chance was illiterate and watching TV was his whole life, but, by the mysterious way he talked about gardening every time he was asked a question, the powers-that-be thought he was a genius, and he became vice-president. But I’m in no way comparing you to Chance. Just an observation that I thought might be humorous.

            Btw, the Hart-Celler Act (often attributed to a young Ted Kennedy – who heavily promoted it), has been the ruination of America. If Trump, with his GOP majority in both Houses, does not succeed in repealing it before the mid-terms, it will never get done and it’s good bye Whitey.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 12:47 am #

            JimInFlorida, seriously? By now you should know my reaction to using terms like “weeds and pests” to refer to human beings.

            What’s more, your anti-Semitic bigotry aside, it’s just embarrassingly hypocritical of you to declare a unilateral right to sort out worthy from unworthy human beings on the one hand, while denouncing social engineers on the other, as if those weren’t two ways of saying the same thing.

          • daveed January 31, 2017 at 11:34 am #


            Is there any perceived problem in this world that can’t be blamed on Jews, in your opinion? Dutch Elm Disease? Quagga mussell invasion? Bermuda Triangle? Wow.

          • S M Tenneshaw January 31, 2017 at 5:53 pm #

            Fuck off and die, Nazi filth.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:13 pm #

            In other words, Tenny has no arguments and nothing to contribute. Nor can he fight either. Perfectly useless!

          • JimInFlorida February 1, 2017 at 1:02 pm #

            Mr. Daveed, it has been to my dismay to constantly find Jews in heart of most every social, political, and economic infection that we’ve suffered for the past 50 years. So many data points, and predictable patterns, make it easy to predict Jewish behavior and know where to look.

            Am I supposed to ignore what is plainly in front of me? If I draw back the curtain, am I supposed to see the malefactor who has his hands on the controls of corporate, financial, propaganda, and government power?

            Am I supposed to ignore what I read from the Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, and other Israeli publications?

          • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 4:21 pm #

            JimInFlorida, if you find yourself getting into exactly the same argument with everyone you come across, you ought to consider the one thing they all definitely have in common is the person they’re talking to, namely you.

        • Frankiti January 30, 2017 at 5:54 pm #

          uh… the mayflower predates the nation. they were not emigrating to the US. they were english colonists with corporate land patents…. intolerant religious separatists and corporate raiders.

          you live in a country that is embarrassingly anglophile, but this escapes you. Hmmm.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 12:49 am #

            Gasp! Thine technicality hast spitted me unto the quick! I am undone!


          • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 5:35 am #

            Indeed, facts are merely technicalities that get in the way of good fiction… like news and poor arguments.


        • cbeard January 31, 2017 at 6:17 am #

          Once we were a nation of immigrants. My ancestors came here in the late 1600’s, early 1700’s. How long am I considered an immigrant.

          • thwack January 31, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

            That depends?

            why did they come here?

        • benr February 1, 2017 at 10:17 am #

          I had ancestors that came over on the Mayflower and the land bridge so what does that make me?

      • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 9:14 pm #

        You mean the same way the settlers stole it from the Indians, murdering them all in the process? The ancestors of these pure, wonderful and white, “settlers” were not immigrants? You live in a bubble.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:14 pm #

          So why are you here, Bent?

        • benr February 1, 2017 at 10:21 am #

          Bentley12- As a person with almost a 1/4 Cherokee DNA I demand you go back to where ever your ancestors came from and deed over all your property to me.
          Hurry up go away.
          Even Indians came from somewhere else time for people with your thought process to grow up and stop hating on white people!
          Native American tribes murdered raped and pillaged across this country long before Europeans and their diseases came onto the scene.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:11 pm #

      Just cuz you Whities got her first? That’s unfair! If the Muslims had gotten here first, they would have been good to the Indians or Native Muslims! There are no limits. We are Spirits in the Material World. And billions can dance on the head of a pin. Bill himself said that all the world’s people could fit in a cube a mile square. The Matrix!

  14. Dumbedup January 30, 2017 at 10:26 am #

    JHK said:

    “The reader by now probably detects my ambivalent feelings in this bundle of issues and grievances, so let me try to clarify my basic positions: I think borders matter and they need to be protected.”

    — I agree with this basic position. Borders do matter because they pertain to rules (law) and order.

    “I think our immigration law enforcement under Obama has been deeply dishonest and damaging to our politics in ways that go far beyond the question of who gets to come here.”

    — I don’t follow this statement because it lacks specifics. In what way is this true? If you are referring to taking NAME immigrants due to the crisis in Syria caused by our own actions then I do agree that it is dishonest. If we send our military onto foreign soil (even if it is just bombing) and create a refugee crisis then we have an obligation to assist in their relocation. Anything else is completely dishonest.

    “I believe we are under no obligation to take in everybody and anybody who wants to move here.”

    — Historically this is not accurate. While it may not be an “obligation” we have in fact historically had an open policy with regard to immigration if the immigrants follow the rules regarding visas, employment and citizenship.

    “I believe we need an official time out from the high-volume immigration of recent decades. I believe we have good reasons to be picky about who we let in.”

    — What sort of “high volume” are you referring to? I looked at the numbers and since 1860 and foreign born residents as a percentage of the total population has fluctuated between 13-15%. It is about 14% now. (13.3% in 2014) The population of the world is growing, but the “rate” as reflected in the number of residents does not seem to have changed much. (There were a few periods when it declined for economic and legal reasons so there is some short term fluctuation.) Why would we change the rate of lawful immigration of people who have family here, work here or are here for other legitimate reasons?

    — If you include “illegal immigration” the numbers have actually declined recently as the number of jobs available have declined.



    • malthuss January 30, 2017 at 10:53 am #

      “I believe we are under no obligation to take in everybody and anybody who wants to move here.”

      — Historically this is not accurate. While it may not be an “obligation” we have in fact historically had an open policy with regard to immigration if the immigrants follow the rules regarding visas, employment and citizenship.–you are wrong, Dumb.
      Look at 20th century and USAs immigration policy.
      Then study the year 1965.
      Me thinks that you were dumb ed down, not up.

      • shotho January 30, 2017 at 11:20 am #

        There have also been periods of closed immigration. Much of the 20th Century was of the closed type.
        Stop with the name-calling.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

          C’mon “obligation”? That’s very, very new and very, very Dumb. This guy has no instincts for survival or they have been beaten out of him. And his intellect isn’t sufficient to make up the deficit.

          • GetAbike January 30, 2017 at 4:36 pm #

            Funny how a white nationalist like yourself- who embody the definition of dumb- acuss others.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 9:33 pm #

            Whites are people and have collective rights just like other peoples. Get a brain.

          • thwack January 31, 2017 at 1:54 pm #

            Hey Janos,

            according to professor Andrew Fraser, “whites” are not a race or a NATION…

            Check out one of his presentations of youtube where he describes how the different European nationalities got tricked into classifying themselves as “white”; and thus raised the petard from which you continue to hang yourself daily.

            The interview he does with Tom Sunic is most interesting because each is coming at the “problem” from the opposite direction.

            Sunic (as a Croat) claims the white classification is best because it gives the different European nationalities a propositional category to bond over together; while Fraser argues the white classification strips Europeans of their national identities and leaves them lost in a neutered, ill defined, luke warm, propositional, subject to change at any minute… grab bag of “whiteness”

            About halfway through It looked like it was gonna turn into a fist fight?

            Very rare for academics.

            PS– Fraser can’t get any love despite his great scholarship; I kinda feel sorry for him; oh yeah, he’s Canadian too.

    • GetAbike January 30, 2017 at 4:40 pm #

      Actually Merkle had to explain our obligations- maybe James could benefit from the lesson as well- to Trump:
      Merkel’s said, “The Geneva refugee convention requires the international community to take in war refugees on humanitarian grounds. All signatory states are obligated to do. The German government explained this policy in their call yesterday.”
      But Trump has proven in so many way that if he doesn’t “feel” obligated, then he isn’t obligated to anything.
      Watch out Constitution!

      • outsider January 30, 2017 at 9:04 pm #

        I’m glad you brought up the Constitution, Getabike. There have been many references to the Constitution not being a “Suicide Pact.” Some say that the old tyrant Abe Lincoln said it first. Per Wikipedia, SC Justice Robert H Jackson in a 1949 free speech case, dissented with the majority writing that “the Bill of Rights is not a suicide pact.”

        But I prefer what candidate Trump said last July on “Meet the Press.” When asked about a proposed ban on Muslim immigration, The Donald snorted, “Our Constitution is great, but it doesn’t necessarily give us the right to commit suicide, OK?” To that I say, Amen!

        • Poolside_at_the_Decline February 1, 2017 at 4:09 am #

          “Our Constitution is great, but it doesn’t necessarily give us the right to commit suicide, OK?”

          Immigration touches upon a number of political areas but the constitution is not one of them.

          Foreign nationals not on US soil have >ZERO< constitutional rights. The are ZERO constitutional obstacles to having ZERO immigration.

  15. Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 10:27 am #

    JHK: “The aim, perhaps, was to flush out a set of bad ideas that Barack Obama had managed over eight years to instate as ‘normal.’ Namely, that it’s unnecessary to enforce the immigration laws, or cruel and unusual to do so…”

    Jim, if this is how you’re going to characterize Obama’s immigration policies, it behooves you to address the abundantly documented fact that Obama enforced immigration laws more vigorously during his time in office than any of his predecessors. From ABC News:

    “How many people have been deported under Obama?

    “President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the ‘Deporter in Chief.’
    “Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who ‘self-deported’ or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

    “How does he compare to other presidents?

    According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president’s administration in history.
    “In fact, they have deported more than the sum of all the presidents of the 20th century.
    “President George W. Bush’s administration deported just over two million during his time in office; and Obama’s numbers don’t reflect his last year in office, for which data is not yet available.” [As of August 2016]


    As a Canadian, I don’t set myself up in judgement over how the U.S. deals with its immigration issues. My country is inordinately privileged on this score; being surrounded by three oceans and a superpower, we’re all but immune to illegal immigration. But I do see a country where wealthier sectors have allowed lax border enforcement on a wink-and-a-nod basis. The migrants were offered a tacit bargain, which they accepted: come in and work for crap wages while enjoying reduced rights, and we’ll look the other way. This was very profitable for people in a position to exploit the labour, and very detrimental to ordinary Americans. Will you now renege on the deal? Does the U.S. have any honour?

    • venuspluto67 January 30, 2017 at 11:18 am #

      Yes, thank you. This notion of Obama as this president who let in all these foreigners is just more of the same kind of political tribalism that is making the left behave as though Nazi dictatorship is imminent because of the ban.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:22 pm #

      C’mon Elrond. By definition, it could only go on for so long before it created a crisis. It was always wrong in any case. You’re just mad that it’s ending before it gave you folks the permanent balance of power. Obviously you feel cheated: you played the long game while the Republicans just played the short game of economic profit. But the Deep State was and is comprised of both types and was well aware of what was going on. They wanted America permanently weakened and fractured so they could take us into the Global State, with America as the exemplar of the same. But a Great Man arose to stop them….

    • aNanyMouse January 30, 2017 at 3:46 pm #

      Mostly good stuff, Elrond, but we Peons have no duty to eat sh*t to honor our Betters’ bargains with illegals, bargains in which we had no say, but which were hidden from us by our Betters’ winks-and-nods.
      Let the Mexicans extract just deserts from those Betters who made the bargain, not from its victims.

    • trolleybill January 30, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

      How many illegals came in between 2009 & 2015?…12 to 30 million may be the reality and 2.5 million how many have been here before 2009 and how many have returned? You see the problem don’t you? We have no idea how many unless we do an Ollie Ollie in come free and register all….Register all by a certain date then if your caught after your out along with the criminal or more criminal ones as being here has to be understood as being illegal not undocumented.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 12:28 am #

        trolleybill, your proposal sounds like an amnesty for illegal immigrants provided they register by a certain date. Those are fighting words in some quarters.

        • benr February 1, 2017 at 10:30 am #

          Simply because it has been done and caused even more problems!
          Unfettered immigration is a disaster, think Roman Empire.

          Has anyone here driven through the once wonderful San Fernando valley in the last ten years?
          It looks like TIJUANA now!
          Mexican flags lying everywhere and no one speaks English.
          Try flying an American stars and stripes in Mexico and demanding freebies and see what happens!
          America as it stands now has an insanity problem and most of it is coming from the left side of the aisle.

    • Greg Knepp January 30, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

      Excellent observations EH. Yes Obama has deported more illegals than any other President. But the bar was always set very low – and for the very reason you outline in your last paragraph: America has always been a slaver nation, be those slaves African abductees, Latino wetbacks toiling in the fields of California or industrial sweatshops scattered about our big cities, or child laborers barely scraping by in unregulated third world hell-holes cranking out cheap shit for Walmart.

      Slavery did not end in the 1860’s: it only changed its style. God help us, we love our slaves.

  16. Bro Jobe January 30, 2017 at 10:28 am #

    You can hate this ban and still think that screening and a careful refugee program can work. Trump is incompetent and looks cruel. Moreover, his order does nothing to curb the source of nearly every attack here–the Somali student in Minnesota excepted–home-grown radicals.

    To track them, I’m confident DT will do something equally stupid. Will we next subject all Muslims to extra surveillance? Will we create that registry that DT talked about before?

    Finally, to exclude Saudi Arabia is laughable. Those Wahabis are the greatest propagators of jihadist thinking on the globe. That nation gave us the 9/11 terrorists.

    • malthuss January 30, 2017 at 10:43 am #

      then what to do?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

      The more Muslims we have, the more terrorism we will have. Those who want more Muslims are simply enablers of Terrorism. And the Women’s March protestors who chanted Allahu Akbar are bat shit crazy.

      • outsider January 30, 2017 at 9:23 pm #

        Janos – Maybe those protesting women are, deep within the recesses of their troubled minds, secretly wanting a Muslim cave man to drag them by the hair into the bedroom where he’ll have rough sex with them. Something they can’t get from the Anglo beta men who hang out with them, attesting to all who can hear that they are Feminists too.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 9:37 pm #

          Indeed, that must be at least an aspect of it. They have been inculcated to have contempt and hatred for their own men ever since they were little girls. So naturally they turn to others. And when such women get finished with their sons, no woman would want anything to do with him outside the friend zone. Thus it’s an accelerating process that will continue until the Crash.

          • outsider January 31, 2017 at 10:36 am #

            Hence pictures of naïve blonde German and Swedish girls holding welcome sign, and giving flowers and cookies to the rough swarthy “migrants,” who, no doubt, are secretly chuckling about what is to come. Is it any wonder why Sweden has become the rape capital of Europe? The women are advised to dye their blonde hair black, cover up, and never go out alone. Now, I’ve read, the Swedish government has had enough and is finally fighting back, no longer accepting endless streams of young Muslim men. But is it too late?

  17. DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 10:28 am #

    This is the best, and most even handed, treatment of this issue I’ve seen and I agree completely with your take on the issue of immigration specifically and boundaries generally.
    The hysteria is quite impressive, and nauseating.
    I think some are missing the trend with Trump and how he works.
    He says or does something outrageous, stands back and lets the Left have it’s millionth nervous breakdown, then quietly dials it back a step to get what he wanted anyway.
    Trump is actually masterfully making both the prestige media and the Left look hysterical and pathetic, which they are.
    He allows them to delegitimize themselves in the eyes of the general public while they think they are delegitimizing him with their outbursts and outrage and moral narcissism.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:35 pm #

      Yes, he can and will take back the mic anytime he wants. He is using blitzkrieg tactics – exactly what is needed. The highly refined type Mr Kunstler wants could never have withstood this onslaught. And in any case, no such type came forward. If any such exist, they didn’t have the money anyway.

      Only ONE MAN was able to do what needed to be done. And he stepped forward and did it and is doing it.

  18. malthuss January 30, 2017 at 10:37 am #

    Justin wants more Syrians.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 11:05 am #

      Two terrorists deciding to murder people at prayer aren’t going to decide a free country’s policies on immigration or refugees.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

        So this is the first Terrorist Strike in Canada? Liar.

        • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 12:24 am #

          I honestly don’t get this. What difference would it make if this right-wing troll had committed the first terrorist attack in Canadian history, or the fiftieth? The point is the same: All us Whos down in Who-ville are going to celebrate Xmas anyway, because it was never about the presents; and we’re gonna stay a free country, because fuck Alexandre Bissonnette.

    • troutbum2 January 30, 2017 at 1:25 pm #

      Story update, the only shooter was a young white French-Canadian male citizen who “liked” Trump on his Facebook page.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

        One of two men arrested in Quebec mosque attack a suspect: police

        “Quebec provincial police say following their investigation, only one of the two people arrested in connection with a deadly shooting at a mosque in Quebec City is considered a suspect.

        “In a tweet, police said that the second person is considered a witness. Police have not named the suspect or the witness.

        “Earlier on Monday, police said one of two suspected gunmen involved in that attack that left six people dead and another 19 wounded at a Quebec City mosque called 911 indicating he wanted to work with authorities.

        “Quebec City police Insp. Denis Turcotte said the man waited for officers to arrest him not long after the shooting at the Centre Culturel Islamique de Quebec in Quebec City’s Ste-Foy neighbourhood.

        “‘He was armed and spoke to us about his acts,’ said Turcotte. ‘He seemed to want to co-operate …The suspect said he was waiting for the police to arrive.'”


        So one shooter instead of two, and he wants to “work with authorities”. Sounds like another affirmative killer like Dylann Roof, who thinks his terrorism is justified and wants a soapbox.

    • cbeard January 31, 2017 at 6:28 am #

      Poetic justice.

      • cbeard January 31, 2017 at 6:28 am #

        Poetic justice for Mr. Trudeau that is.

  19. pequiste January 30, 2017 at 10:37 am #

    ” I believe we need an official time out from the high-volume immigration of recent decades. I believe we have good reasons to be picky about who we let in.” JHK

    Yes,the president stumbled by his tactical error of rolling out his travel visa and refugee moratorium without proper consideration of green card holders and visitors already inbound on airplanes. A minor inconvenience to a few hundred people at most as Jim points out. But as we all know in our Society of the Spectacle, perception is everything, and the frustrated Democrats, legacy Media, apoplectic left and NWO disorder folks, get plenty of mileage and coverage from these kinds of pratfalls. And just think the guy has been in office only 10 days!

    If the new administration can think a little more strategically they would in fact have on the agenda the actions necessary to cancel the Immigration Reform Act of 1965, the monster that has put us where we are: en-route to 400 million persons living in a country that can sustain perhaps half that number. He has shown he has the political will and he has, on-paper, the forces in the Congress to move on it swiftly.

    By stating immigration reform is a top priority in conjunction with keeping America safe, Trump kills two birds with one stone.

    – Declare and institute a complete immigration moratorium (with the exception of persons who have significant impact on national security) until the backlog of persons wishing to come to the U.S.A. is cleared. Then a new, much lower number of yearly immigrants, be formulated to perhaps even match the number of emigrants leaving the country: net zero new growth from immigration. New procedures instituted to protect America from diseases, old and new. from reentering the society as is happening with penicillin-resistant strains of Tuberculosis and other pestilences once thought radicated. Let us permit the latest wave (last 20 years) of immigrants to successfully into into America.

    – As to being picky, with a vastly reduced number of immigrants coming in, America could the time to properly check who wants in and technology can be used to full effect. Nations of origin would need to be cooperative for a more complete assessment process and should the nation of origin not be cooperative than the immigrant would most likely have to look to move somewhere else. Additionally , a guest-worker program can be established to get the jobs done that persons who only want to work and not become citizens could be a boon to the overall program.

    Donald Trump shows why doesn’t need a political “honeymoon;’ he has been married three times and knows how the game is played. Perhaps he can learn how to be less ham-fisted, but on second thought, maybe his madness is part of the method?

    • malthuss January 30, 2017 at 10:51 am #

      – Declare and institute a complete immigration moratorium (with the exception of persons who have significant impact on national security) until the backlog of persons wishing to come to the U.S.A. is cleared.

      Anchor babies. Whole neighborhoods on west coast where pregoo chinks are waiting, to drop their little prince anchor.

      • pequiste January 30, 2017 at 12:15 pm #

        Absolutely Malthuss.

        Whichever part of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution makes this nonsensical policy needs to be overturned as soon as practicable. A new law, U.S. Code or Amendment to the Constitution, replacing it should make babies born to resident aliens and visitors, legal and illegal, visitor babies.

        • malthuss January 30, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

          Whole neighborhoods full of these superstitious people.

          Wonder why an area in LA became so Chinese [Monterey Park]?

        • thwack January 30, 2017 at 1:18 pm #

          “Whichever part of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution makes this nonsensical policy needs to be overturned as soon as practicable.”


          OK, then every black person in the U.S descended from slaves could sue the U.S government for forcing us to become citizens.


          • pequiste January 30, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

            Forcing you?

            Slavery, indentured servitude, and other forms of forced-labor is illegal (other than in corrections,) and has been, for some 150 years.

            All black Americans, indeed all Americans, are free to renounce their U.S.A. citizenship and move (back) to the country of their choice if they want to.

            Would you want to thwack? Would any black Americans?

            The door is open…..

          • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

            pequiste: “Slavery, indentured servitude, and other forms of forced-labor is illegal (other than in corrections,) and has been, for some 150 years.”

            That’s the charitable reading. There’s an equally valid reading that is less charitable and more realistic: Slavery in the United States has always been legal and constitutional. The institution was modified 150 years ago to add a criminal conviction as a prerequisite.

            It’s a very surmountable hurdle to find a crime to convict someone of, especially when you have the ear of people in government to pass convenient laws for you:

            Prison Lobbyists Working For AZ Gov. Brewer Are Set To Profit From Immigration Law She Signed

            And enforce them so as to guarantee you a slave labour force:

            The Prison Industry in the United States: Big Business or a New Form of Slavery?

            This Is How Private Prison Companies Make Millions Even When Crime Rates Fall

            The Thirteenth Amendment, Section1 should be revised to read as follows: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” The except clause is evil.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:47 pm #

            How about we pay for your plane ticket home? Last Monday you were as a god. This week you’re a babbling buffoon. What happened in the interim?

            Rodney King got a few million in damages. He went thru in two years. You all are particularly poor investments. You’d be back in no time with your hands out again.

            You know it’s true!

          • thwack January 31, 2017 at 11:52 am #

            “All black Americans, indeed all Americans, are free to renounce their U.S.A. citizenship and move (back) to the country of their choice if they want to.”


            Alright, calm down white people… let me explain.

            When did we CHOOSE to become citizens?

            When we swam over here?

            After the civil war, black slaves (such as my ancestors) never took ANY oath of citizenship; we were never given the opportunity, it was simply forced upon us by the stroke of a pen.

            But wait, it gets worse.

            Based on the Dred Scott decision, a negro could not become a citizen because only “persons” could become citizens; and the decision handed down by chief justice Roger B Taney said a “negro” is not a person, but a “thing” like a horse, a mule….

            So the question white people have never answered is:

            When did negros become PERSONS?

            Because you gotta be a PERSON in order to be a CITIZEN.

            Some of the people reading this have taken the oath for U.S citizenship and they know the last statement they are REQUIRED to make is:

            “and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”

            Think about why its the last thing you are required to say?

            Then ask yourself when any “Negroes” took this oath?

      • benr February 1, 2017 at 10:36 am #

        Indeed the Chinese are taking over Orange county, parts of San Diego and Las Vegas!
        It happened in the last five years!

  20. malthuss January 30, 2017 at 10:42 am #

    ‘300,000 travelers admitted over the weekend’—70 million visitors to USA a year. NOT GOOD.
    Too heavy a footprint.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:50 pm #

      Yeah really. Wtf? Lao Tzu tells us to stay home and cultivate our own garden. There’s nothing to see. The Far Country will find us before you can say tralfamadore.

  21. Georges1202 January 30, 2017 at 10:53 am #


    I suppose it is impolite to ever mention that the hamfisted meddling of the US in the Middle East has created much of the chaos over there and the resultant ‘refugee crisis’ The ethical thing to do would have been to acknowledge that and do far more to alleviate the suffering.

    Instead we dumped the problem off on Europe and now, with this imbecile con-man calling the shots, we sanctimoniously refuse to bear the responsibility. Well done, America.

    • pequiste January 30, 2017 at 12:43 pm #

      Sorry to tell you Georges, no one who has built a multi-billion dollar real estate empire is an imbecile.

      Plus he won the presidency fair and square on his terms.

      The blood sport in Southwest Asia and North Africa is the legacy of both the former colonial powers – say “hi there!” England, France and Turkey; the Yzlamik state of mind; and the president’s predecesors from at least G.H.W. Bush, and up to and including, Barack Hussein Obama.

      Trump did not cause the awful mess yet he has inherited a Herculean task before him – to clean out the Augean Stables of Washington and beyond.

      To mix a metaphor for you: it is sort of like watching sausages get made Georges. Not pretty.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

        Yeah and who made them conquer half the known world within a hundred years of Mohammad’s death? No one did. They wanted to as per the Koran and Hadith.

        Believe it or not, the Jihad would have started again no matter what we did or didn’t do. It’s very hard for Westerners to admit they aren’t the guilty center of the world, but it’s true nonetheless.

    • troutbum2 January 30, 2017 at 1:28 pm #

      If you terrorize people long enough, eventually they will terrorize you back!

      • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 3:53 pm #

        Exactly. And that’s what the Crusades were: a Counter-Attack.

        • benr February 1, 2017 at 10:39 am #

          How dare you confuse them with the fact the MOOSLIMS had conquered Europe all the way to France!
          The Pope of the time knew they had to do something or lose the world.

  22. shotho January 30, 2017 at 11:03 am #

    In the race to finish off what’s left of Western civilization, which isn’t much, I would suggest that you keep a watchful eye on Pope Bergoglio. He is emerging as the leader of anti-civilization in his policies of anti-capitalism, environmentalism and unfettered migration. I say this, sadly, as a Catholic who has watched the downfall of his Church, which more than anything else, has been the cradle of Western civilization. Without that foundational bulwark, it’s hard to see how the thing can continue to hold together.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 11:08 am #

      Environmentalism and criticism of capitalism are pro-civilization, not anti-. Civilization can hardly exists if our species eats the planet alive, can it?

      • shotho January 30, 2017 at 11:27 am #

        If you like the elitist agenda of global control, then continue to support those who would destroy what has been laboriously built over millennia. It wan’t socialism that did the building.

        • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 4:05 pm #

          The structure that has been laboriously built over millennia didn’t start from zero, and the world we live in today isn’t solely the product of men’s hands. We did it by digesting the value that was already there, namely the natural world: forests, lakes, trees, oceans, and of course the one-time-only bounty of fossil sunlight that delivers pizzas to our doors. Our ancestors inherited a garden — and every generation since has bequeathed to its children something closer to a desert, with some snazzy architecture and a whole lotta garbage discreetly covered under a tarp.

          If I adopt an uncritical attitude toward capitalism and declare all its outcomes equally wonderful, I put out my own eyes. I can no longer tell the difference between art and schlock, between news and pornography. As for socialism, frankly the U.S. could use quite a bit more of it. Start with the way you do health care — there’s literally hundreds of billions of dollars in savings to be had from eliminating waste, fraud and abuse, that could be put toward something useful.

          • benr February 1, 2017 at 10:44 am #

            Have you not heard of abiotic oil?
            I can attest to having seen this in real life.
            Many oil wells in Santa Clarita California went dry to the point the pumps failed and there was no more seep in the normal seep spots.
            They started shutting down the pumping in the 60’s into the 80’s in many areas and now in my lifetime the seeps are not only back BUT you can now find huge chunks of oil running down the creeks again.
            Tell me where that comes from?

          • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 11:30 am #

            benr: “Have you not heard of abiotic oil”?

            Yep, I have, and so has our host.

            KunstlerCast #151: Energy Delusions

            “James Howard Kunstler believes Americans and their leaders are lying to themselves about our current energy predicament. There is a tremendous body of fantasy about how much energy Americans can harvest from shale gas, shale oil, tar sands, running the American truck fleet on natural gas and other forms of alternative fuel for motoring. There is even one fantasy that an endless supply of abiotic oil is located in the earth’s core. Kunstler runs down the list and gives us the score.”

            JHK dismisses the idea of abiotic oil with ridicule, as he did when he appeared on The Colbert Report:

            “Colbert: What oil dilemma? I go [sic] the gas station, I pay money, they put gas in my car. What’s the dilemma?
            “Kunstler: You’re probably one of those people who thinks that the world has a creamy nougat center of oil, but it doesn’t.
            “Colbert: No. When you go past the crust of the Earth you get to the Land of the Lost where the Sleestaks live.
            “Kunstler: That’s right, but the trouble is that they’ve eaten up all the oil.”

            My opinion of the abiotic oil hypothesis is similar to Kunstler’s, without the ridicule. At best it’s unproven, at worst it’s wishful thinking.

      • TiredOfTheTreadmill January 30, 2017 at 11:47 am #

        Yeah, as soon as someone freaks out about any criticism of capitalism, or calls environmentalism anti-civilization I just shut down on listening to anything else they have to say. It’s like trying to make sense of a babbling, backwoods minister handling poisonous snakes. High on potential spectacle, low on content of any worth.

        • benr February 1, 2017 at 10:49 am #

          It might behoove you to pay attention when the pied piper of the new church Al Global warming Gore has bought property in areas that he screamed would be covered in water by now!

          Blood Gore have made billions on carbon credit swap schemes and it has done nothing to improve the lot in life of people globally!
          Follow the money it really is that simple.
          If Carbon Dioxide was really such a problem why have they not used the proceeds to re-green the planet instead they just buy more mc-mansions and gulf streams to make the problem worse.
          Plant trees all over the globe where humankind has chopped them down and not replanted them!
          Till that happens I say it’s all a scam.

      • bibliomaniac January 30, 2017 at 1:00 pm #

        Elrond—So true! Maybe everybody here could read “The Sixth Extinction” and get back to us. Unfettered capitalism is a parasite that is devouring the host.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 4:04 pm #

      They have a point I’m afraid: if real Catholics refuse to talk about over-population, that’s an opening for fake ones like Bergoglio. I used to have a real Catholic friend who would go into towering red faced rages about how the World could support ten times the current population – as if the whole world was arable and resources would be shared equally. That’s utopianism – which the Church rejects. Guess he missed that part. And even if it was possible, what then? THEN at the very limit with no slack whatsoever, Then you would start having to limit the growth of population like you should have done in the first place.

      Christ said He could not teach us everything but would send the Holy Spirit to enlighten our minds. If you won’t even think about things, you’re not going to get any supernatural aid in regards to them. First rate minds left the Church a century ago. The remaining hacks cannot fend off the jackals who use Truth as a weapon. You see, sometimes something New appears in the World. Advanced technology was new as was the environmentalism it made necessary. The Church just didn’t have people capable of taking in the new – which simply means they weren’t graced by the Holy Spirit.

    • JimInFlorida January 30, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

      Pope Francis is only finishing what Vatican II started. Until that is repealed, and Church Doctrine marched all the way back to the standards set by Pope Pius X, then the Church will continue to suffer the effects of toxic shock caused by the mass inclusion of 3rd Worlders into the church body and crypto-Jews in the Vatican.

      It won’t be long before traditional Catholics, “the Resistance,” and sedevacantists will have to come to an agreement and go underground to preserve the Faith.

  23. capt spaulding January 30, 2017 at 11:16 am #

    Most of the problems we encounter today can be traced back to overpopulation. From pollution, to shrinking resources, to global warming, etc. Many millions of people all over the world are fleeing their countries, attempting to find a better life for themselves. I don’t blame them for that, but that doesn’t change the fact that they will fill up this country just as badly as the ones they are leaving. I see the problems in Europe and America as similar to a lifeboat on the Titanic. The lifeboat will only hold so many people. Once you reach that limit, what do you do with the people who are left? There are no “good” choices, and yet you will have to decide whether you are going to take in more of the people and risk capsizing the boat and drowning the people already in it. Nobody said that it would be pleasant. The world isn’t gonna stop fucking, and the population is going to continue to grow wildly out of control. So eventually you or your children will have to make the lifeboat decision whether you want to or not Sometimes reality is not a pleasant thing to have to deal with. There are no politically correct solutions to this dilemma.

    • mdl17576 January 30, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

      Thank you for pointing out that there are motivations for wanting hard borders besides racism and xenophobia.

    • beantownbill. January 30, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

      Shit, Capt., you took the words out of my mouth before I had a chance to post them. I would also add that the whole immigration issue is just another distraction to keep us from thinking about resource and population overshoot. One of two possibilities will probably occur: Since it is almost impossible to stop people from reproducing, humanity wipes itself out as the Earth busts at the seams, or nature takes matters into its own hands. A 3rd possible outcome is population control by fiat, which has been shown not to work – I.e. China. There is a 4th possible outcome: Technological and scientific advancements save us in the nick of time.

      Unless we are accomplished engineers or scientists, there’s really nothing we can do other than sit back and watch the show (try demonstrations urging people to stop reproducing and giving up their toys and see how effective you are.).

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 4:08 pm #

      Whites aren’t overpopulating. We and only We have a chance of coming through this. Possibly the Japanese as well. What do we do? Isn’t it obvious? We keep them out by any and all means – including hitting them with the oars if they try and climb in. The question is an existential and psychological one: Do we love ourselves enough to choose Life? Or do we choose Compassion for the Alien and therefore, Death?

  24. nsa January 30, 2017 at 11:16 am #

    Syllogism time. Vile lefties hate whitey. Most vile lefties are whitey. Ergo, vile whitey lefties hate themselves……….and a possible corrollary: vile whitey lefties are sick and suicidal. Suggestion: since you vile lefties want to live in a turd world hell hole, why not just move to africa or asia or NY or LA and enjoy…instead of importing the turd world into the USA and ruining the country for decent working citizens?

    • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter January 30, 2017 at 1:07 pm #

      Amen! If these silly clowns want “diversity”, then they should move their sorry asses to Nigeria, or Yemen, or even Mexico!

      In fact, they can just drive across the border and set up house in Mexico. Because Mexico has an “open borders” policy. Really. Truly. I promise them this is not a trick, and I assure them that Mexico is not going to lock them up in prison, and beat the crap out of them before they dump them back in the U.S.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      • AHtheHumanity January 30, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

        According to the 2010 census conducted by the National Institute of Statistics and Geography (INEGI), there were 3,700 Muslims in the country,[1] majority are Sunnites, with Shiite and Ahmadiyya[2] minority. – wikipedia

        Who would want to live in such a poverty stricken country as Mexico? Drug addicts and Catholic priests?

        Most visitors are visiting and dropping huge sums of money to experience a less developed part of the world – it is not all cement and cars.

        Why is there not more immigration of oppressed Muslims from Syria (5Million) in Mexico???

    • Dumbedup January 30, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

      nsa, your post is a good example of errant public discourse in comment sections here and elsewhere on the internet; ergo: devolving to name-calling without any substantive discussion of the issue. The strategy you are using is to use adjectives like “vile” and “lefty” to influence the reader and evoke emotion to detour around critical thinking. When people hear words like that they immediately assume what you are describing is evil. You’ve heard or read it done and now you mimic it and propagate the evil.

      Lets all try to tone down the rhetoric a little and instead try to ask and answer pertinent and important questions. “Come, let us reason together.” (Isa. 1:18)

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 4:12 pm #

      But they won’t, you see they’re “the good ones”. And if they sacrifice “the bad Whites”, the sacred minorities will accept them as equals or at least tolerate them as servants.

      Political Correctness is a Religion of Human Sacrifice for White People who fancy themselves as rational and beyond the need of religion.

  25. TiredOfTheTreadmill January 30, 2017 at 11:18 am #

    The immigrant distraction is in Trump’s left hand. All the while I am trying to see what he’s doing with his right hand. I’m keeping my hand on my wallet during the show. After all, he still has a Goldman Sachs pirate in his treasury. I’m also waiting to see what flood gates this crews’ ideologically driven, anti-science stance opens.

    • Georges1202 January 30, 2017 at 11:23 am #

      It is what the fighter pilots call a ‘target-rich environment’ – truly a sad and disgusting time.

    • bibliomaniac January 30, 2017 at 1:15 pm #

      Right! And an Exxon up his sleeve.

  26. Paulo January 30, 2017 at 11:25 am #

    Well, here’s one result of this past week’s furor. I was born in the States but have been Canadian for the last 50 years. We moved here in ’68. My brother also lives in Canada. I was talking with him on the phone Friday night and mentioned that I might forgo any visit to our sister (living near Bellingham WA) for the next while. No particular reason beyond being a bit nervous to cross the border.

    He replied he had already beat me to it. He informed our sister that he would not be visiting the US, “anytime, soon”. I mentioned this to my wife and she told me about her swimming group. They were all talking about Trump and the fiasco he is orchestrating and to a person they have also decided they would not, “Go down to the States”. In fact, most of them were now saying they have decided not to buy any ‘Made in USA’ goods if at all possible. Instead, they have now switched to buying just Canadian produce and products, and if they are seasonally unavailable, they would buy Mexican.

    Obviously, no big deal for a US-centric people/mindset. In fact, I can hear the response now, “Well then stay home you Canadian commie pinko fags”. Sure, I accpt that. But multiply this around the world and what do you have? Certainly, the Clintons were corrupt money grubbers dispensing inside access. But Trump is not only making America supposedly great, again? (hah), he is single-handedly making you into a hated people around the world. How long will it take before a common chant around the world is, “Fuck USA…Fuck Trump”…. And the problem is my friends, you need everyone else more than we need you.

    • shotho January 30, 2017 at 11:32 am #

      Canada doesn’t need the United States? When has that ever been true? Canada loves its trade imbalance with the States. What would it be without it? Listen to them whine if it should ever stop. Turn about’s fair play. I stopped buying products from Canada, China and Mexico long ago.

    • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 11:51 am #

      No Paulo, we don’t need sanctimonious Canadians. You live a very privileged existence up north, and you’ve been protected by having a superpower on your southern border so you’ve never had to deal with 20 million or so “undocumented” immigrants from Mexico.
      My wife is Canadian and I visit Toronto several times a year, and let me tell you there is nothing more exhausting than- holier than thou- Canucks bloviating about the evils of the U.S. while living under the protective bubble of Murrican influence.
      If your so gung ho about playing “We are the world”, then get Justin to accept ALL of the “refugees” that are currently streaming out of the Middle East and Africa, as well as Mexico and Guatemala.
      You’ve already ceded Vancouver to the Chinese, who are also buying up waterfront property all over Toronto, so a few million extra immigrants a year shouldn’t be a big deal for you.
      After all, you’re a moral superpower… or something like that.

      • malthuss January 30, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

        And Canada has UK styled hate speech laws.

      • pequiste January 30, 2017 at 1:11 pm #

        I think Les Quebecois, are a different story Dave. They do not want La Belle Province turned into a Third World shithole.

    • BackRowHeckler January 30, 2017 at 7:33 pm #

      In Canada since ’68?

      Up there evading the draft, you sonnofabitch?


  27. volodya January 30, 2017 at 11:30 am #

    VIrtue signalling, love that term, that’s why I read this blog, you learn something every time.

    And, as for all their alleged “virtue”, as President (can you bloody believe it) Trump sez where was all the outrage from self professed “progressives” when millions of good paying American jobs were being sent overseas?

    There was no outrage because so called progressives have been long since bought and paid for by the plutocracy who told progressives just stick to identity politics and stay away from bread and butter job issues and there will be jobs in academe, government, in corporate bureaucracies.

    So far – until Trump – the arrangement worked for both plutocrats who pillaged at will and the progressive clerisy. That is until Trump and Bernie called bullshit on the whole shitty thing.

    Bill and Hill shouldn’t weep too much, they were paid a king’s ransom to do Wall Street’s bidding.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 4:20 pm #

      Quite so: Race has replaced Class in popular Leftist thought. And even for so called Conservatives, the interest, attention, and love that should go to their own lower class is given to minorities. And then they wonder why we support the Leader?

      At some level they know, because they scream racist at him even though he shows no sign of being a White Nationalist. He doesn’t hate us though – and that is UNBEARABLE to them. All “good” Whites must hate the White Underclass or any White who has any racial consciousness whatsoever. After all, we always hate those whom we have wronged….

    • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 4:25 pm #

      volodya: “There was no outrage because so called progressives have been long since bought and paid for by the plutocracy who told progressives just stick to identity politics and stay away from bread and butter job issues and there will be jobs in academe, government, in corporate bureaucracies.”

      Too true, but there have also been genuine progressives all along who are coming back into their own now that the neoliberal game is up.


      Next step for people who take progressivism and civil liberties seriously is to shake off the cobwebs and stop paying attention to people who have long been part of the problem. Anyone with a TV show would be a good place to start.

      • aNanyMouse January 30, 2017 at 8:51 pm #

        Super, Elrond. The Deep State won’t allow anything of importance (in any quantity) to appear on the Tube.

  28. Petro January 30, 2017 at 11:43 am #

    Glad to see JHK will be posting more than once a week. Always look forward to reading his observations of the current clusterf—, although I don’t always agree with all of them.

    I have to say, just reading the first few dozen comments of his posts, week after week (I give up after that) leaves me feeling very pessimistic about Americans ever coming to agreement on much of anything. There seems to be no common set of values or beliefs that have been settled, accepted by the majority, and serve as a foundation for facing the world and situations/conditions as they arise.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 4:25 pm #

      That’s what mass immigration will do. It was hard enough to bring all the European groups together – but the Hart-Cellar act of 1965 doomed us.

      The rise of Science and Atheism were a strain to be sure, but it was weathered. The influx of 3rd Worlders, who simply aren’t needed either, is the last stroke of doom.

      The Only answer is Trump and his MAGA plan. And yes, that means Whites must be dominant. We are the Builder Race after all – and the Native Americans.

      • JimInFlorida January 30, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

        Whites could win the American Indian tribes over by honoring the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1851, in full, and with all good intention if Amendments are necessary. Until the Treaties with all the Indian tribes are reviewed, harmonized, and implemented, the moral authority of Whites to take back America from Hart-Celler will be constantly challenged.

        With that moral obstacle out of the way, yes, MAGA will be possible. We will then have all political and moral authority to block 3rd World immigration and, by routine police action (arrests), deport them by attrition.

        Rather than the hamfisted way President Trump carried out his immigration promises, he should’ve first invoked the 9th and 10th Amendments and allowed the States to ignore Hart-Celler and all immigration laws evolving from it. Thanks to Bush and Obama, President Trump has inherited enormous executive powers and can thwart judicial mischief IF he knows what they are and how to use them.

        Red States will finally be allowed to cleanse themselves and Blue States will get all the “cultural enrichment” they can stand! Corralling the Muslims and 3rd Worlders into a few States will make the Final Roundup much easier when even *janet-wpa* has had enough!

    • routersurfer February 1, 2017 at 5:57 pm #

      Agreed. Nice to have more JHK. As for the rest of your post…. your correct. Sad to say.

  29. miasmo January 30, 2017 at 11:51 am #

    Obama doubled the border patrol budget during his tenure and also deported more illegals than any previous president. So your opening paragraph is puzzling.

    • Frankiti January 30, 2017 at 5:41 pm #

      uh, I dunno, your argument is, uh, puzzling.
      First, immigration in the US has 2 basic component: legal and illegal. Legals also get deported. In fact many legals get deported.

      Second… your argument has a giant hole. Enormous.
      If Mr. O let in 10 people a year but deported 5, I’m pretty sure there would be more people than if Mr. B let in 6 and deported 4. Sure, Mr. O deported more… but he also let more in.

      it’s all in the net. Always.

      I’d love to be your accountant.

      • miasmo January 31, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

        “If” Obama let in x and “if” Bush let in y. You got any actual numbers? Otherwise your objection is bogus. Bush was very friendly to Mexican immigration. It advanced the conservative goal of lowering wages to increase corporate profits, and was also part of Rove’s strategy to get more hispanic votes for the GOP. And it worked.

        • routersurfer February 1, 2017 at 5:59 pm #

          Point game.

  30. FincaInTheMountains January 30, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

    My problem with Trump is his lack of any kind methodical business approach to governing. == michics

    The most logical explanation of the White House action on immigration ban is an urgent intelligence information received on prepared influx of trained ISIS militants to enter US under the guise of refugees and make uuuuuge trouble.

    I’ve been writing about special training camps, specifically in Jordan, that make a selection of terrorists with special combat skills aimed at American market.

    Given of what we have seen happening in Europe, I think most everybody could agree it is not far stretch of imagination to assume that.

    It also explains a secrecy and “lack of preparedness”, e.g. venting the order by multiple lawyers and federal agencies that could still be infiltrated by the Clinton supporters, specifically the Federal Intelligence agencies.

    It’s quite possible that “rush” and “unprepared” actions of Trump administration saved a lot of American lives.

    • aNanyMouse January 30, 2017 at 1:30 pm #

      Maybe so, Finc, but he’d still have been on firmer grounds (esp. with the Courts) if he’d included the others mentioned by JHK, esp. the Saudis.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 30, 2017 at 1:41 pm #

        Sheiks are completely different ball-game. They are the Islamist ideology and Money masters – they don’t host ISIS training camps on their territory.

        What US together with Russia should do is to push ISIS out of Syria and Iraq into Saudi Arabia – let them finally enjoy their handywork to a full extent.

        • aNanyMouse January 30, 2017 at 2:27 pm #

          I’d give Trump & Putin a standing “O” if they could make Saudis enjoy their handywork.
          But the lack of camps on their territory doesn’t preclude putting them on the list, even if only for political/legal reasons. Besides, sheiks and their progeny could make things here into utter hell, just with their skill at pushing Islamist ideology onto youngsters. So Saudis are still super targets for legit banning.

        • Frankiti January 30, 2017 at 5:32 pm #

          But the Sauds buy American and British weapons… very expensive, and very many, weapons.

          • aNanyMouse January 31, 2017 at 3:04 pm #

            Yeah, and Treasuries!

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 4:26 pm #

      Rush said the same thing. If they knew the timetable, lots of people, including the bad, would have rushed in.

  31. DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

    Some more reasonable analysis amidst the fury of the Progs:https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/255846/

  32. janet January 30, 2017 at 12:20 pm #

    “Their “due as human beings” is a birthright in a birthplace.” –messianicdruid

    Yes. Planet Earth.

    • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

      Right. The Deep State/CIA starts a war in the Mid East and the rest of us have to help clean up the mess or else we’re Nazis.
      I guess you support bailing out the banks at taxpayer expense, same principle involved.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 4:28 pm #

        Yes, America the ATM. Change America the Beautiful to that.

  33. wholy1 January 30, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

    Idiocracy run amok? Mike Judge for [replacement] Prez.

  34. Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter January 30, 2017 at 12:50 pm #

    Fantastic Piece! I really love this part, which is dead-on accurate:

    “That principle may be the deep neurosis of the Dem/Prog Left reduced to virtue-signaling in their out-of-power echo chamber. Having no coherent ideas about the immigration issue besides resistance to it, they offer only sentimental narratives: tears on the statue of liberty, “dreamers,” sanctuary cities, nation-of-open-arms, we’re-all-children-of-immigrants, and anyway North America was stolen from the Indians. The hysteria is impressive, as if the Left has come down with ergot poisoning, seeing witches (racists, homophobes, misogynists, white privilege villains, and Russians) behind every juniper shrub in the land.

    I’d go as far to say that this neurosis derives from the general psychological boundary problems of the current Dem/Prog ethos. Their zeal to erase categories has resulted in lost categories of thinking — it’s all one big soup of victimization out there now and everybody better rush to cash in their victim brownie points while they still can — or as long as Senator Chuck Schumer can keep the crocodile tears flowing. ”

    You hit the nail on the head! The Democratic Left is caught up in a religious-like fervor, and spew out word salads of phrases as if they were actually making arguments.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  35. the camels bell January 30, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

    Führer Time.

    • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter January 30, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

      Yes, Trump is a “leader”! Which is what the word means in German. It probably seems out of place to you, because for 8 years we have not had a “leader”, but trust me, our country needs a leader for a change.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      • the camels bell January 30, 2017 at 1:56 pm #

        the credulous embrace evil because of their deep, impatient ignorance and their profound fear of being alive in the modern world.

        • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter January 30, 2017 at 2:05 pm #

          How true! Maybe that explains all the idiots protesting the ban on terrorist countries? Or all those idiot whites protesting in Black Lives Matter parades.

          Because those people are living in the past. It is still “Freedom Rider” time to those people, and the fact that blacks have a 72% illegitimate birth rate is ignored in the rush to blame white supremacy for black problems,

          Or, the idiots who demand open borders like it’s the 1880’s and the country has plenty of jobs and work to do. Yeah, the Statute of Liberty was fine back then, but it’s now the “Modern World”, and maybe upwards of 40 million Americans want to work, and more want decent paying jobs, and can’t compete with cheap labor from Mexico or China.

          Thank you for pointing that out!

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

          • the camels bell January 30, 2017 at 3:16 pm #

            Some bigots rationalize their prejudices with plausible data because a small part of them still recognizes the falsity of their actions, views, etc.

            Other bigots will try to recruit and their sell their snake oil in a fruitless attempt to bring others into the breach, thus reducing their anxiety by surrounding themselves with supporters.

            Some are psychopathic, traditionally viewed as morally insane, without a conscience or observable empathy. Some only have psychopathic tendencies.

            Is it true, we’ve only recently come down “fromm” the trees, but do try and make a better show of it.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 4:40 pm #

            I’m in love with you, Squeaks. I forgive you for trying to shoot Ronaldus Magnus.

          • elysianfield January 30, 2017 at 6:56 pm #

            “I’m in love with you, Squeaks. I forgive you for trying to shoot Ronaldus Magnus”

            Geraldus Ford?

          • JimInFlorida January 30, 2017 at 8:16 pm #

            Damn Squeeky, you’re HOT!

            How in the world did you escape Orwell’s, “Junior Anti-Sex League?” I can promise you that agents from the Ministry of Truth are lurking here!

            At any rate, welcome aboard the CFN forum!

        • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

          You just said absolutely nothing, although I’m sure it felt really good to you while typing it.

          • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter January 30, 2017 at 2:28 pm #

            No. I said something, but you heard nothing. One has to have an open mind for that. 🙂

            Squeeky Fromm
            Girl Reporter

            PS: You forgot to call me names. You need to use your checklist. The DNC prints those up for a reason.

          • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

            Yeah, I was responding to the camels bell, not you, so please calm down Squeeky.

        • Frankiti January 30, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

          and some people embrace adjectives… many adjectives

  36. robert magill January 30, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

    In an early tweet today Trump stated his decision to do this action without notice was to prevent “bad guys” from rushing to enter. Said there are a lot of bad guys out there. If the decision went to a DC committee it would be sometime in 2019 before it could be implemented.Maybe he was correct to do it this way?

    • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter January 30, 2017 at 3:50 pm #

      What you said sounds suspiciously like common sense.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

  37. fairguy January 30, 2017 at 1:23 pm #

    As someone who has gone through the US immigration system to the point of permanent residency, I feel qualified to remark on this topic.

    When you discuss last week’s executive order and mix into the discussion the overall question of immigration policy, it’s easy to miss the mark and to create false equivalencies.

    For starters, I agree that the US should enforce its immigration laws. If the situation on the ground is broken, then measures should be taken to fix the laws. In the past, Republicans were in favor of this until their boogie man Obama took power. Now, there is no hope for sensible immigration reform.

    This has little to do with the current crisis. The US issued refugee status to people after extreme vetting, and this includes many who worked with our intelligence and military services abroad. Revoking their entry rights, removes an important tool from our arsenal and gives our enemies sustenance. Nobody will want to work with us if we can’t keep our promises.

    Trump is a dangerous and reckless buffoon who should be impeached and removed from office. This should be done only through a legal and democratic process. This won’t happen soon, because the Republican leadership lacks backbone. But it’ll eventually happen, after a lot of damage is done to our economy, national security and standing abroad.

    • thwack January 30, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

      “As someone who has gone through the US immigration system to the point of permanent residency, I feel qualified to remark on this topic.”


      What country you from?

      Is it a country I ever heard of?

      They speak English?

      • elysianfield January 30, 2017 at 7:01 pm #

        “Is it a country I ever heard of?”

        Funny. Beantown Bill take note….

    • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

      fairguy: “For starters, I agree that the US should enforce its immigration laws. If the situation on the ground is broken, then measures should be taken to fix the laws. In the past, Republicans were in favor of this until their boogie man Obama took power. Now, there is no hope for sensible immigration reform.”

      This is correct, and I’ll take this opportunity to reiterate my observation from up-thread: that Obama deported up to 3 million illegal immigrants during his tenure (at least 2.5 million through August 2016), more than the sum of all deportees in the 20th century. Meanwhile, his impressively fact-impervious opponents spent eight years painting him as a disastrous opener of floodgates. It’s not surpising to see some level of hysteria in the response to a movement that has become that immune to reality.

      • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 5:56 pm #

        And if Trump is merely continuing in his footsteps with regards to immigration then why the mindless hysteria ?
        Barack set the precedent and Trump is following through.
        Oh that’s right, when the black guy does it it’s great, or at least acceptable.
        When Trump does it it’s “literally Hitler”.

    • elysianfield January 30, 2017 at 7:03 pm #

      “This won’t happen soon, because the Republican leadership lacks backbone. But it’ll eventually happen, after a lot of damage is done to our economy, national security and standing abroad.”

      What part of “destroy the village to save it” do you not understand?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 7:44 pm #

      In other words, if we’re only nice to the Muslims they’ll stop bombing us. Or as Justin Trudeau says, If you kill them, they win. Does that work the other way around though? They’re killing us in Europe but we still don’t seem to be winning. In fact, they seem to be winning. It’s amazing but true: If one side fights and the other doesn’t, the side that fights, wins. Who would have thought?

  38. troutbum2 January 30, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

    The best summary of these events are found here: https://www.lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas

  39. troutbum2 January 30, 2017 at 1:32 pm #

    From the above cited article :

    “Empirically, domestic terrorism is carried out by citizens—not immigrants—with right-wing terrorism, racial hate crimes, and the sovereign-citizen movement making up a majority of domestic terrorist incidents,” said Joel Day, assistant professor of security and global studies at the University of Massachusetts Lowell. “Other domestic incidents have indeed been carried out by those who came here through legal channels.’’

  40. troutbum2 January 30, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

    Best source of Stats on Immigrants here : http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states

  41. troutbum2 January 30, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

    Best source on Terrorism in America since 911 : https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/

  42. Cab January 30, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

    Dear life in the comments section,

    The self-destructive cyclical myth-based culture you have been born into has shot it’s wad. Your self-soothing masturbatory musings, your moorings of identity and reality, your fear of the Other, your bias, your piety — all illusion.

    Point blame, insult, demonize, deify… your are still in the shit. There are no solutions within, just more shit.

    Humanity (which comprises more than the current dominant culture) will either evolve or it will end. Hint: its continuance lies beyond playing Risk in the same 10,000 year-old shit pile.

    It was a good run, full of miracles and nightmares. Just a story though, one with a bad ending.

    Kill your darlings, time to evolve or die.

    The ship was sinking—and sinking fast. The captain told the passengers and crew, “We’ve got to get the lifeboats in the water right away.”

    But the crew said, “First we have to end capitalist oppression of the working class. Then we’ll take care of the lifeboats.”

    Then the women said, “First we want equal pay for equal work. The lifeboats can wait.”

    The racial minorities said, “First we need to end racial discrimination. Then seating in the lifeboats will be allotted fairly.”

    The captain said, “These are all important issues, but they won’t matter a damn if we don’t survive. We’ve got to lower the lifeboats right away!”

    But the religionists said, “First we need to bring prayer back into the classroom. This is more important than lifeboats.”

    Then the pro-life contingent said, “First we must outlaw abortion. Fetuses have just as much right to be in those lifeboats as anyone else.”

    The right-to-choose contingent said, “First acknowledge our right to abortion, then we’ll help with the lifeboats.”

    The socialists said, “First we must redistribute the wealth. Once that’s done everyone will work equally hard at lowering the lifeboats.”

    The animal-rights activists said, “First we must end the use of animals in medical experiments. We can’t let this be subordinated to lowering the lifeboats.”

    Finally the ship sank, and because none of the lifeboats had been lowered, everyone drowned.

    The last thought of more than one of them was, “I never dreamed that solving humanity’s problems would take so long—or that the ship would sink so SUDDENLY.”

    —Daniel Quinn

    • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

      My God, the profundity.

      • Frankiti January 30, 2017 at 5:27 pm #

        I guess he’s a cAB SOLVINGnone

        • messianicdruid January 30, 2017 at 10:08 pm #

          “All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned – every one – to his own way, and the Lord has laid upon him the iniquity of us all.”

          Jesus IS the lifeboat.

  43. Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter January 30, 2017 at 2:17 pm #

    Sooo, does anybody think the average American wakes up in the morning,and says to him or herself:

    “Oh, I sure wish we had more Muslims in the country! My life would be sooo much better!”

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    • thwack January 30, 2017 at 4:12 pm #

      Not to give Trump any ideas; but maybe we should have a reality tee-vee show where we get to vote refugees into or out of the country from our smart phones?

  44. peak_a_boo January 30, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

    Cannot agree with you on this one Mr Kunstler. Looks like you are in the bag for Trump now. I hope we can all enjoy the new isolated world he is creating.

    • Frankiti January 30, 2017 at 5:21 pm #

      What, exactly, is the world isolated from? Other worlds? The moon.

    • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 6:00 pm #

      Isolated ? Try crawling back under the bed with your teddy bear where it’s safe from “literally Hitler” and his deplorables.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 7:47 pm #

        No, then the Teddy would become “Hitler”. If Hitler wasn’t real, we’d have to invent him. As JFK said, the greatness of this Man would become clear as the furor of the War died down.

        The Tribe made sure the furor never died down. The German people have been beaten to death with the Holocaust Death Cult stuff.

        • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 8:22 am #

          I know. One teensy, weensy little catastrophic genocide and it’s all “boo hoo” this and “never forget” that…

      • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 5:38 am #

        Godwin’s law in no time… no time at all

  45. ccarrick January 30, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

    I disagree.

    1) You seem to think that the only problem with DT’s executive order was with the implementation, as if DT, Bannon et al are not white nationalists. Do you disagree that DT is giving cover to alt Right, neo-nazi elements?

    2) You do not provide any specific criticisms of Obama’s immigration policies. Did Obama not deport more people than his predecessor? If you disagree with DACA, for example, please tell us why. How should we deal with the families and minors who have been here for years?

    3) You do not specify what level of refugees would be acceptable, or provide any specific criticisms of the vetting process as it stands. Isn’t the US accepting far fewer refugees per capita than our allies?

    4) Do you have a problem with the “preferential treatment” that DT has established for Christians from the 7 nations?

    • DaveNYC January 30, 2017 at 6:06 pm #

      I stopped at the 1st sentence where you imply DT and Bannon are white nationalists.
      You are not rational nor deserving of a reasonable response to the matters at hand.
      You need to explain what is wrong with maintaining the Euro American majority in the U.S.
      Do you have a problem with that ? If so, why do you hate Europeans and their descendants and wish to see us reduced to minority status in the society that our ancestors built.

      • thwack January 30, 2017 at 7:39 pm #

        Because thats how you started out here?

        • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

          But we conquered, Thwack. Just as your people have conquered so much of Africa. Believe it or not. much of Southern Africa wasn’t Black, but populated by the high yellow Khoi people once upon a time. Blacks pushed them into the wastelands or genocided them.

          You want us to give America back? Is anyone going to give us back the lands they’ve taken from us – like much of Asia for example?

          • thwack January 31, 2017 at 11:16 am #

            “much of Southern Africa wasn’t Black, but populated by the high yellow Khoi people once upon a time. Blacks pushed them into the wastelands or genocided them.”


            OK, but you whites killed ALL of them that were in Europe. Thats right; white people are NOT native to Europe, “much of Europe wasn’t white, but populated by the high yellow Khoi people once upon a time. whites genocided them.”

            Look up Albert Churchward — Origin and Evolution of Primitive Man (1912) Lecture given at the Royal Societies Club, Feb. 1912.

            PS– please stop trying to divide Africans into various “flavors”; at the end of the day, a racist white supremacist like yourself would hang us all from the same tree anyway; it matters not which of us you hang first.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 2:50 pm #

            So Whites don’t exist (see your post upthread) but Blacks do? Now you’re talking like a classic Hypocrite-Bigot. You’ve learned well from your White Liberal Masters.

            Churchward? Is that the guy who wrote about the lost continent of Mu? In any case, 1912 is hardly current science. Whites have been the residents of Europe since the last Ice Age. Before that it was White Neanderthals. Race is transcends Species in some cases. Likewise, East Asians still show the traces of the race of Homo Erectus that preceded them. Whites may have evolved from another race of Homo Erectus. And Blacks probably backslid and mated with Homo Erectus – the primal sin.

            North Africa is Caucasian. South Africa was high yellow. West Africans are VERY different than the Ethiopians and Somalis, even though they are all classified as Negro. Pygmies are too – though their IQ is even lower and Negroes don’t consider them human. Indeed, some hunt them for food…

            There are many flavors of African, Thwack. And by no means are all of them Black.

          • thwack January 31, 2017 at 3:39 pm #

            “There are many flavors of African, Thwack. And by no means are all of them Black.”


            OK, so which AFRICANS do you allow to marry your daughter?

  46. laceration January 30, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

    Kunstler twice a week! Nice that with the world going downhill all around us, we at least get a little shot in the arm of being able to read Kunstler 2x/week…about the world going downhill…wait a second…

  47. johngalt January 30, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

    In the New Republic, members enjoy resuming the restoration of the Constitutional republic from JFK’s point of interruption, can see for miles and miles, and enjoy Liberty in building out properties and the local means of production, with the capability to sow, nurture, grow, harvest, store, cook, engineer, design, program, automate, construct, process, raise, teach, counsel, hunt, defend, provide, debate, organize, compose, worship, dance, laugh, love, celebrate, and sustain.

    We are the sheepdogs.
    And we are old fashioned and sentimental.
    And we belong to the longest serving Civil Rights organization in the Republic.
    And we don’t require others for border protection or building bridges.
    And we have undying love and devotion to the Constitution.
    And we are happy to participate in the proper pursuit and offering of due process under the Constitution to the NETWORK globalist class charlatans who sold out the old republic in their lust for power and the love of money.
    And we are ready for what’s next.

    Sent from the New Republic.


  48. trolleybill January 30, 2017 at 4:47 pm #

    As a subscriber to the long emergency I truly believe we have a population problem that has to be addressed soon. I also subscribe to peak oil which besides the low price of oil killing oil companies or a high price killing economies has to have a national plan.

    I don’t think any of us will be able to predict the coming months or years to come. My plan is to prepare a suitable lifeboat. My lifestyle is frugal and healthy with just rent and utilities. I have a bicycle for my main transport and can save $400 a month easily on my small pension I started to collect 2 yrs ago. I have a bus stop 5 min away I use my senior free bus pass and can take me downtown Jax or the beach in 20 mins. Right now I’m buying silver eagles as silver is low @ $17.15 an oz as you get no interest in the bank and I will keep 25% for a cushion. I have a bug out kit being added to for peace of mind and my cupboard can sustain me for months. My mantra for everyone is be prepared and get out of debt

    • elysianfield January 30, 2017 at 7:10 pm #

      Didn’t mention guns…silver eagles…hmmm? Where, exactly, do you live?

      • thwack January 30, 2017 at 7:41 pm #

        Medicines and medical supplies will function as currency too

  49. tucsonspur January 30, 2017 at 4:47 pm #

    Jim, like Trump you have risen. Risen above your usual heights.
    Eff the details and eff the lefty blowback.

    Great clarity on borders and immigration. A high administration post should be in the offing.

    Trump Rises as he Leads;

    How high is Trump, mama ?
    Ten feet high and rise’n.

    How high is Trump, papa?
    Fifteen feet and rise’n……


  50. GeoffZ January 30, 2017 at 5:24 pm #

    I am looking to a follow up article titled “Fuhrer Time.”

    • Elrond Hubbard January 30, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

      Okay, now I’ve got that maddeningly repetitive tune stuck in my head…


      Except now with Nazis. Gee, thanks.

      • tucsonspur January 30, 2017 at 6:57 pm #

        Look at it as a pleasant intrusion, allowing one some relief from political drudgery.

        Point is, the water keeps rising, and ultimately layers the land with a rich deposit of fertile soil.

  51. FincaInTheMountains January 30, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

    Most of US intelligence community has gone rogue


    US intelligence agencies are now investigating their own boss! Yes, according to recent reports, the FBI, CIA, National Security Agency and Treasury Department are now investigating the telephone conversations between General Flynn and the Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyk. According to Wikipedia, General Flynn is the former

    – Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency
    – Joint Functional Component Command for Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance
    – Chair of the Military Intelligence Board
    – Assistant Director of National Intelligence
    – Senior intelligence officer for the Joint Special Operations Command.

    He is also Trump’s National Security Advisor. In other words, his security clearance is stratospherically high and he will soon become the boss of all the US intelligence services. And yet, these very same intelligence services are investigating him for his contacts with the Russian Ambassador.

    That is absolutely amazing.

    Even in the bad old Soviet Union, the putatively almighty KGB did not have the right to investigate a member of the Communist Party Central Committee without a special authorization of the Politburo (a big mistake, in my opinion, but never mind that).

    That roughly means that the top 500 members of the Soviet state could not be investigated by the KGB at all. Furthermore, such was the subordination of the KGB to the Party that for common criminal matters the KGB was barred from investigating any member of the entire Soviet Nomenklatura, roughly 3 million people (and even bigger mistake!).

    But in the case of Flynn, several US security agencies can decide to investigate a man who by all standards ought to be considered at least in the top 5 US officials and who clearly has the trust of the new President. And that does not elicit any outrage, apparently.

    By the same logic, the three letter agencies might as well investigate Trump for his telephone conversations with Vladimir Putin.

    Which, come to think of it, they might well do it soon…

  52. janet January 30, 2017 at 5:50 pm #

    Finca, the bodies are started to pile up as Putin gets rid of anyone with knowledge of Russia’s interference in the American election, knowledge of how Putin put 45 in power and what leverage Putin has over 45.

    Sergei Mikhailov, who worked for the FSB, the successor to the KGB, was arrested in December, along with Ruslan Stoyanov, a top manager for Russia’s largest cybersecurity firm, according to the economic newspaper Kommersant. Stoyanov was also charged with suspicion of treason.

    The Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta says Mikhailov was arrested during an FSB meeting in early December when officers came into the room, put a bag over his head and took him away.

    • FincaInTheMountains January 30, 2017 at 6:12 pm #

      Hardly sound as “piling up the bodies” – arrest of FSB official with the court warrant and publication of the fact in Russian press.

      Besides, unlike the US, Russia does not have a death penalty, even for High crimes.

      • janet January 30, 2017 at 6:22 pm #

        I think the number arrested for treason is up to four or five now. The arrests are a tacit acknowledgment Russia successfully meddled in a U.S. presidential election — a way to take credit and show other foreign governments the Kremlin has the ability to do so again. Analysts also speculated a public treason trial could serve as a venue to air more potentially damaging information gleaned about the United States — and the new 45th U.S. President — without using back channels such as the website WikiLeaks to make it public. Punishment for treason in Russia includes a deprivation of liberty for a term of 12 to 20 years with confiscation of property.

        • FincaInTheMountains January 30, 2017 at 6:32 pm #

          No wonder, Russia is entangled by the Fifth Column placed there from the time of Clintons.

          Trump’s coming to power in US gives Putin an opportunity to clean up the ranks.

          US should do the same thing, and in a hurry, or they will put the entire Republic in danger with their recklessness.

  53. FincaInTheMountains January 30, 2017 at 5:58 pm #

    Trump has powerful weapon he can unleash against the Clintonoids: 9/11


    Whether Trump knew about it before or not, he is now advised by people like Flynn about the details of 911. And if the actual number of people directly implicated in the 9/11 operation itself was relatively small, the number of people which put their full moral and political credibility behind the 9/11 official narrative is immense.

    Let me put it this way: the entire Washington “swamp” has been since “9/11 accomplice after the fact” by helping to maintain the cover-up. If this is brought into light, then thousands of political careers are going to crash and burn into the scandal.

    9/11 was a collective crime par excellence. A few men actually executed it, but then thousands, possibly tens of thousands, have used their position to execute the cover-up and to prevent any real investigation.

    They are ALL guilty of obstruction of justice.

    By opening a new investigation into 911, but one run by the Justice Department and NOT by Congress, Trump could literally place a “political handgun” next to the head of each politician and threaten to pull the trigger if he does not immediately give up on trying to overthrow him.

    • janet January 30, 2017 at 7:50 pm #

      “Trump could literally place a “political handgun” next to the head of each politician” –finca

      Are you suggesting 45 abolish the courts and the congress and declare himself president for life? Is that what you are saying?

  54. janet January 30, 2017 at 6:59 pm #

    Support this blog by visiting Jim’s Patreon Page!

    Great news that we will have two essays per week. Such generosity should be reciprocated by visiting JHK’s Patreon Page.

    • thwack January 30, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

      I would donate if you would stop stinkin up the comments section with your nonstop DNC talking points and Cuck Shumer routine.

      • janet January 30, 2017 at 10:45 pm #

        It is western civilization’s values at stake: “When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself…” (Leviticus 19:33-34)

        So, yes, open the doors to Syrian refugees.

        Or maybe “western civilization” is just a political football here, a way to put down Islam, not something to really be taken seriously.

      • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 6:34 am #

        Exactly! WPAsokaJanet is a posting bot that is left alone, I suspect, on account of its generous Patreon donation. It posts DNC talking points all day every day

  55. Pucker January 30, 2017 at 7:12 pm #

    This is basically what they’ve done to the blacks, right? Obama from Chicago is cover for selling guns and drugs into Chicago? Homan Square…. The Mass Media’s job is to cover it all up.

    “The CIA buys American politicians in the same way. Corrupting the leadership of a country in order to keep it in your pocket is integral to maintaining an empire. It is a well-established colonial policy. The two main facets of Phoenix –controlling the “upper tier” people in a foreign government by corrupting them, and terrorizing the lower tier into submission –come together in the mid-70s in Central America and explode with Iran-Contra in the 1980s.”

    “The illicit drug trade produces some $300 billion a year in cash that exists off the books until it’s deposited in a bank. Everyone wants to have the US $100 bill, so the majority of the narco-dollars end up in banks that hold US dollars. A lot of that money buys arms that are used for political purposes, to overthrow governments, like in Syria. We’re often told that drug money helps support ISIS and other so-called terrorist groups. But it’s impossible for $300 billion, no matter what currency it’s in, to float around the world economy undetected. The great white fathers who control world finances know where it comes from and where it goes. The CIA has a new Digital Division that keeps track of all this. We’re talking about people who can arrange economic sanctions on Iran. It’s amazing to see what they can do, but it is impossible for me to explain how they do it. But that $300 billion has a lot to do with buying people’s loyalty. Controlling that $300 billion is a very high priority of the CIA.”

    Douglas Valentine, “The CIA as Organized Crime”

  56. BackRowHeckler January 30, 2017 at 7:50 pm #

    Meanwhile, in Dallas, a troop of Muzzies in native garb throw down prayer rugs in the airport, face east, and conduct an impromptu prayer meeting, a little Islamic street threatre to shut down operations and show these white infidel dogs who’s boss.

    I was wondering, at the airport in Cairo, Islamabad, or Tehran, how would it go over if a Rabbi or Priest decided to hold public Jewish or Catholic services at the local airport, in public, bringing things to a halt? Would state media fawn over it, proclaiming ‘diversity is our strength’?

    What’s astonishing is the number of Muslims inside the USA there are now, when there used to be none. How many millions did Obama bring in, under the radar that is?

    Sometimes life follows literature. When I was watching protest coverage at our local airport, I saw some young dude with a manbun holding a sign that read ‘We’re all Muslims Now’, reminding me of a sign from ‘Camp of Saints’ ‘We’re all from the Ganges now’. Its remarkable.

  57. FincaInTheMountains January 30, 2017 at 8:05 pm #

    SABOTAGE: Obama DOJ Holdover Won’t Defend Trump’s Executive Order


    thesaker: A “color revolution” is under way in the United States.

    Soros crowd has already chosen a color: pink. We now are witnessing the pussyhat revolution as explained on this website:


    And if you think that this is just a small fringe of lunatic feminists, you would be quite wrong. For the truly lunatic feminists the “subtle” hint about their “pussyhat revolution” is too subtle, so they prefer making their statement less ambiguous as the image shows:


    This would all be rather funny, in a nauseating way I suppose, if it wasn’t for the fact that the media, Congress and Hollywood are fully behind this “100 days of Resistance to Trump” which began by a, quote, “queer dance party” at Mike Pence’s house.

    This would be rather hilarious, if it was not for all gravitas with which the corporate media is treating these otherwise rather pathetic “protests”.

    I am surprised and amazed at the magnitude of struggle which we see taking place before our eyes. It is now clear that the Clintonoids did declare war on Trump and some believe that Trump has now returned them the favor.

  58. BackRowHeckler January 30, 2017 at 8:05 pm #

    Just checked ‘HeyJackass’ for the helluvit, nearly 300 people shot, 51 dead, in Chicago so far this year. And its still January.


    • malthuss January 31, 2017 at 10:32 am #

      Not Your Problem.

      It is Africans being Africans.

      • thwack January 31, 2017 at 10:58 am #

        So when a young white man shoots up a high school or movie theater… is it just “Europeans being Europeans?”

        • DaveNYC January 31, 2017 at 11:12 am #

          The difference is that when whitey engages in the statistical rarity of a mass shooting it’s plastered all over the media for days or weeks.
          When black men do it every hour of every day in every major metropolitan area in the U.S. it’s silence or endless rationalizations and ultimately blaming it on “White America”.
          Big difference.

          • thwack January 31, 2017 at 1:15 pm #

            Blacks own the media?


  59. messianicdruid January 30, 2017 at 8:12 pm #

    thwack: I think we did this once before, but here we go again:

    “The reason Native Americans are owners instead of immigrants is because their ancestors were the first people buried on the land. The concept is a type of ancient global common law understood and accepted by all; except the white man.”

    Who was “first” is certainly open to debate. Immaterial.

    We own [ and are responsible for ] what we create. YHWH owns the heavens and the earth. Me and you making up stuff does not change this. I doubt that “white people” are the only ones that accept this.

    “I’ll ask you the question no white person seems to be able and/or willing to answer: What percentage of the global population should be composed of white people?”

    This is under the authority of the Owner.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 9:49 pm #

      Yes, render unto Caesar (Satan) what is Caesar’s. And he wants us to fight.

      But yes, we are not our own. God owns our souls, but he is renting out our bodies to Satan because of the hostile takeover. Thus the Two Laws are in play. Neither can be discarded. They have to artfully combined. You always try to minimize the Satanic Law even to the point of not letting us defend ourselves.

      • messianicdruid January 30, 2017 at 10:51 pm #

        Ceasar was not Satan. Satan is a usurper. His only power is in having his lies believed. We owe him nothing.

        “Submit yourselves to God, Resist the devil and he will flee from you.”

        Jesus told Pilate that he could have no power over him unless it was given from above. In our case, since it is given from above, the purpose [ cause ] should be searched out, beginning in our own heart.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 11:24 pm #

          “For the King of this world is coming and he hath nothing in me.”

          Satan is Rex Mundi. The Lord said so. Caesar must obey his Law of Battle as well as God’s Commandments if his reign and regime are to last.

          • messianicdruid January 31, 2017 at 5:51 pm #

            “You shall have no other gods [ rule-makers ] before Me.”

            To serve any in addition to the Creator is to deny Him. We were sold into slavery, but the Redeemer of the brethren has set us free. We have become servants of righteousness, which certainly rules out subjection to any so-called law of the Adversary.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:21 pm #

            Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. And since Satan is Caesar or King of this World…..

            Relax Messi. You never thought of it this way and/or forgot about this verse. Everyone who read the New Testament leaves out verses. Suddenly “seeing” is a joy. Don’t deny the joy just to defend your pov.

  60. Yuri Sowryteski January 30, 2017 at 8:38 pm #

    JHK: posting twice a week means I almost have a full daily dose of high quality doom every week! Thanks!

    So far no connection has been made between Trumps list and the countries we are currently bombing; perhaps because the congruence is not perfect.

    Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

    Nor is it perfectly congruent with the list of countries Gen. Wesley Clark related in an interview with Amy Goodwin, draw up in the Bush Whitehouse in 2001, as targets to attack. Unless you count the cyber attack on the Iran uranium enrichment program with the stucknet virus as an attack on the country.

    The standout terrorist organization not included in the travel ban?

    The CIA; but then you couldn’t ban everyone who is paid by the CIA from traveling to or from the USA – to many, and no one knows who they are anyway. Besides I bet alot of those people are really nice.

    That Trump has banned some of them from security briefings seems to me, prudent, subtle, nuanced, just, and appropriate.

    Note to Trump: If you don’t stay in character, you may blow your cover.

  61. FlavianPlot January 30, 2017 at 8:59 pm #

    Here we are, captivated by one of many to follow trial-run constitutional cut-backs tucked amid the default president’s campaign promises. For starters, why not remove the all-in-one immigrant sampler from the future menu while the leftover meatloaf on the American table is re-heated? Seems a more palatable sell to me, for those afraid of zesty shit, and harder to spit out by the identity politic kiddos who think they’d like it spicy. Even so, virtue-signals via mighty tweet as a tasteless bomb drops from the all thumbs prez appear to be what Drumpf is about. Who didn’t see this coming?

    Nah, this ‘blunder’ (ipso facto strategy queue) is owed to our new prez’s attention- seeking compulsion, rather than racist agenda, and it’s clear he’s going to continue to fuck these kinds of things up BIGLY in the eyes of his secretly admired betters. It’s misplaced post-election to say that Donald’s virtue-pandering is necessarily intended for the barking, clapping seals who voted him in, or even intended to antagonize the up-armoring blue-haired SJWs; instead, notice that Trump is boxing himself into a specific set of deep-state derived ambitions, exemplified in this easily foreseen embrace of The Empire’s Middle Eastern hit-list. That’s it… that’s all one needs to see about the president’s desire to complete his onboarding process with the true elite — drawing a new red line between U.S. and 7 hegemon-allergic states to announce whose interests are top priority. He’s now vying for Deep State approval; regardless, his minority 47% base is unquestioningly with him, and the PC rebukes coming from molting war hawks are supposed to fool who exactly?

    Prognostications: Trump’s 1st (and only?) sitting at the head of the table will historically mark the start of expected and encouraged courses of currency, trade and hot war action he didn’t fully intend, but for which will proudly accept credit. Right know, back of the house Iron Chefs are gathering spiked ingredients for a menu of scrumptious hostilities from which Trump will select without much deliberation.

  62. FincaInTheMountains January 30, 2017 at 9:31 pm #


    The forces which are currently trying to impeach, overthrow or murder President Trump are a clear and present danger to the United States as a country and to the US Federal Republic.

    They are, to use a Russian word, a type of “non-system” opposition which does not want to accept the outcome of the elections and which by rejecting this outcome essentially oppose the entire political system.

    It amazes me to see that the US pseudo-elites have as much hatred, contempt and fear of the American masses as the Russian pseudo-elites have hatred, contempt and fear of the Russian masses (the Russian equivalent or Hillary’s “deplorables” would be a hard to pronounce for English speakers word “BIDLO“, roughly “cattle”, “lumpen” or “rabble”).

    It amazes me to see that the very same people which have demonized Putin for years are now demonizing Trump using exactly the same methods.

  63. barbisbest January 30, 2017 at 9:36 pm #

    Trump- you’re fired.a

    • tucsonspur January 30, 2017 at 9:59 pm #

      No Barb, Sally Yates is fired. Praise Trump, along with everything else, he has to take out the trash.

      • janet January 30, 2017 at 10:47 pm #

        It is western civilization’s values at stake: “When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself…” (Leviticus 19:33-34)

        So, yes, open the doors to Syrian refugees.

        Or maybe “western civilization” is just a political football here, a way to put down Islam, not something to really be taken seriously.

        • S M Tenneshaw January 31, 2017 at 6:50 pm #

          Islam ain’t nuthin’ but shit, so it can’t be “put down.”

      • barbisbest January 31, 2017 at 7:24 am #

        The trash taking out the trash. How quaint.

      • barbisbest January 31, 2017 at 7:27 am #

        Trump taking out the trash tucsonspur. The irony!

  64. BackRowHeckler January 30, 2017 at 10:56 pm #

    These non stop Hate Trump protesters, do they have jobs to go to? I remember asking during the trouble in Ferguson, Mo. if the rioters battling the police and burning the city had jobs; how could be out on the streets till 4 in the morning and be at work for 7:00 am? The answer was NO, they didn’t. Everybody lived off the fat o’ the land, aka largesse provided by whitey in the form of EBT payments. That’s the beauty of it: not only is whitey being displaced in his own country, he’s paying for it! The problem is when whitey gets down below 50% of the population, who’s going provide funds for the massive transfer payment welfare grift then? Its a problem.

    The thing is there had to be a plan. White America didn’t go from 92% of the population to less than 60% in 50 years if somebody didn’t have a plan. These changed demographics are the root of the instability we are experiencing right now in the US. I don’t see any way out of it. When the Visigoths kicked in the gates of Rome c404 the whole city was watching gladiators battle at the coliseum; Sunday most of us will be watching the superbowl in Houston.


    • Janos Skorenzy January 30, 2017 at 11:21 pm #

      Almost home, Backrow. Now ask yourself who was behind it. Which group? Who gained? Who had the ability to do it?

      • malthuss January 31, 2017 at 10:31 am #

        The problem is when whitey gets down below 50% of the population, who’s going provide funds for the massive transfer payment welfare graft then? Its a problem.

        No, thats not the PROBLEM. A race and a Nation are much more than an economy.

    • thwack January 31, 2017 at 9:45 am #

      brh- if you are looking for a “boogie man” to blame for this demographic shift, the only place to find one is in the mirror.

      Im not a white person, but I know a lot of white people; and for some reason a lot of them don’t seem to want children? Some of the men married nonwhite women, so theres that; but none of them lack the material resources to raise children?

      I know about the “MGTOW” phenomenon and the way marriage laws favor women…

      But in the final analysis, white people don’t have any excuse nonwhite people don’t have for producing children; actually, white people don’t have ANY excuse; they have the jobs, education, personal connections, generational wealth…

      Janos just wants to blame someone else; don’t fall into his trap.

      • DaveNYC January 31, 2017 at 11:15 am #

        Black people in America have below replacement level fertility rates, so don’t get all excited sweetie.

        • thwack January 31, 2017 at 1:01 pm #


          Then why does Janos see blacks in his sandwich?

          Where is this “white genocide” meme coming from?

          Come to think of it?

          since we lack the jobs, education, personal connections, generational wealth… that you have; that means blacks are in mint condition, i.e, meant to be that way…

          Whats your excuse Casper?

          • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

            Where? Because Whites were 90% of America a few decades ago and now we’re just over 60%. What else would you call it. All our countries are being inundated in the same way. Just by accident? Or a carefully planned long term conspiracy against us? And even if was just by accident, it must be stopped. And those who refuse to stop it, are now conspirators even if they weren’t to begin with.

            Btw, when I talk about White genocide, I’m not just talking about Blacks taking our women in the United States. It’s a log bigger than that and involves many other groups of people.

    • Hands4u January 31, 2017 at 1:30 pm #

      I blame it on the Business and the economic processes that the business climate has encouraged over the past 30 years. In the 80’s and 90’s I worked in hospitals which were in the process of transitioning to a business climate. When one hospital hired a bean counter (MBA) from Scotland to run the hospital. Beds on a psychiatric unit for a private room went from 180 to 400 in 3 months. Over the next 6 months they went to 650+ for a private room and within 3 years were over the 1200 mark around 1991. My income didn’t reflect any of that though I was the one monitoring, counseling and regulating their daily schedules. These prices to be justified divided (compartmentalized) all the expenses and costs. The hospital was no longer an Institution that provided care for these poor souls but created a price gouging, competitive and production environment among hospitals, nursing homes and insurance companies. We were to call the patients “clients” and no longer patients; some even went as far as to call the patients customers.
      Capitalistic business models had taken out the “care” of what were once institutions. This is the same process that is now occurring to our government. It’s about the bottom line and since Trump was elected to maintain the “Bottom Line” we’re not going to get what we paid for. We’re going to get a bed somewhere; where the food is dubious at best; and someone, if they get paid for it will stop by at their convenience to see if we’re still alive sot they can either kick us out or know if they can make more money from someone else with less care provided. If each of us don’t deal with our anger and felt disenfranchisement and Existential anxiety we won’t and can’t help anyone else, because “who-ever” or “whom-ever” else it is it’ll be “their fault” and they’ll be the enemy because we can’t even figure “our-self” out. “We have met the enemy and it is us”
      I’ve been unemployed and under-employed over the past 15 years and its in part because of the economy but it is also because I had difficulty doing some of the same crappy jobs with no headway and other mitigating circumstances along with realizing that I was also trying to have a family at the same time. Trump had stated in the past that he could been more successful if he hadn’t married. (paraphrased)
      So quit blaming others and groups of people whether it is the unemployed, TPTB, history, politicians, religion etc… get up from your computers and make your life better by doing something for someone else. ( so now I have to go see a non-paying client (because their insurance company hasn’t placed me on their “preferred provider list” about their mental health and brokenness due to an avalanche of emotional and physical trauma in their life that they are trying to figure out how to survive.)

      • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 3:41 pm #

        Multiply the above story by millions of people and it’s not hard to see why the electorate erupted this past year. U.S. health care in particular is just an unbearable mess.

        Unfortunately the candidate with the right ideas was excluded from consideration because the Democratic party brass had their thumbs on the scale. Instead the winning candidate represents a party that spent eight years denouncing their own solution because it got taken away from them by a candidate they branded a ‘socialist’, and they have nothing to replace it with. There is no way this mess can fail to get bigger over the next four years, no matter how Lord Dampnut spends his time.

        • Hands4u February 1, 2017 at 1:19 pm #

          My hope and desire is that Humpty Dumpy Trump will fall off his wall.ASAP, But this will probably cause as many problems as it might resolve.

  65. volodya January 30, 2017 at 11:07 pm #

    Elrond, better late than never that genuine “progressives” wake up and smell the coffee. One nit picky point though, given that “progressivism” has so thoroughly covered itself in dishonor and disrepute as the doctrine of thorough and complete sellouts, can we make up another name for the genuine progressives? Progressivism in its current incarnation is all about protecting privilege after all and has got this awful stink of hypocrisy about it.

    One thing though, they did take an awfully long time to wake up. So how many of these progressives are genuine and how many are just low down opportunists like Hillary. And Bill. Bill especially.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 31, 2017 at 8:37 am #

      I wish I knew. The current moment is clearly a turning point where people are ready to let go and try something new that works. We’ll see what happens as a genuine movement coalesces, which I’m now sure it will. Occupy Wall Street was a precursor, but they were operating too much in a vacuum to have any staying power.

      • messianicdruid January 31, 2017 at 11:02 pm #

        666 + 666 + 666 + 6 + 6 + 6 = 2016

        Yes, definitely a turning point.

  66. tucsonspur January 31, 2017 at 12:10 am #

    Yeah, right on brh. I may be watching in Vegas. I’m givin’ 3 points, and taking the Patriots over those rebs.

    Noble gladiators Brady and Trump hopefully carry the day.

    Schumer said that “tears were running down the statue of liberty’s cheeks”. He didn’t say it was because immigrants were fucking her up the ass.

    He himself cried, recognizing the strength he doesn’t have being carried in another man. He weeps for himself, inwardly knowing that it’s not the immigrants’ plight he cries for, but his own weakness.

    The fight is on, and like Terry Malloy, Trump is gonna’ take it out of their skulls.

  67. janet January 31, 2017 at 12:57 am #

    “The problem is when whitey gets down below 50% of the population, who’s going provide funds for the massive transfer payment welfare grift then? Its a problem.” –brh

    Nice racist observation, brh… except more whites receive govt funds than anyone else. For example, nationally, most of the people who receive benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are white… 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American. So, yeah, it’s a problem, brh… for all those on welfare, and whites are the majority, the largest number of recipients of EBT than any other group in the U.S.

    • tucsonspur January 31, 2017 at 1:46 am #

      Does the fact that whites outnumber blacks by roughly 150,000,000 have anything to do with it?

      • janet January 31, 2017 at 2:44 am #

        Yes. There are more whites than Blacks and the largest number of recipients of welfare, food stamps, SNAP, EBT, etc. are whites.

        brh, asked what would happen, how would it all be funded when whites were less than 50% and I said a lot of whites would be affected. Was I wrong?

        Or was brh wrong to make it sound like only whites are funding benefit programs (another racist remark, as if only whites work and pay taxes)?

        • tucsonspur January 31, 2017 at 3:31 am #

          You were wrong in presenting numbers that gave a distorted picture of the situation. You did not mention the much, much larger white population.

  68. janet January 31, 2017 at 1:11 am #

    The ACLU collected an astonishing $24 million in online donations over the weekend after it swooped in to federal court to win a stay against President Donald Trump’s anti-immigrant executive order.

    Besides banking the money, the organization also scooped up another 150,000 members.

    “I’ve never seen anything like this,” ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero told Yahoo News. “People are fired up and want to be engaged. What we’ve seen is an unprecedented public reaction to the challenges of the Trump administration.”

    Some 356,000 donors contributed money to ACLU in 48 hours. The flood of cash broke all records for the civil liberties organization, which usually raises about $4 million a year from online donations.

    Thanks to everyone on CFN who donated to or joined the ACLU.

  69. janet January 31, 2017 at 1:18 am #



    There are already plenty of other grounds for impeachment, including Trump’s putting his own business interests ahead of the country’s and his weird and opportunistic alliance with Vladimir Putin bordering on treason. A lesser-known law that goes beyond the Emoluments Clause is the STOCK Act of 2012, which explicitly prohibits the president and other officials from profiting from non-public knowledge.

    Impeachment, of course, is a political as well as a legal process. The Founders designed it that way deliberately. But after just a week in office, not only has Trump been deserting the Constitution; his partisan allies are deserting him.

    Despite his creepy weirdness, Republicans at first thought they could use Trump for Republican ends. But from his embrace of Putin to his sponsorship of a general trade war, this is no Republican. One can only imagine the alarm and horror being expressed by Republicans privately.

  70. dolph9 January 31, 2017 at 1:53 am #

    Even though I am Canadian by birth, I must disagree with Paulo’s sanguine take on Canada.

    Canada is a disaster waiting to happen. It’s hardly even a country, as the Quebecois have known for some time. It’s crowded with immigrants from every corner of the planet, and the policy is to make it even more so.

    Moreover, if America goes downhill, they will have to deal with an even bigger problem. I see Canada breaking up in the years ahead. In the meantime, sure, there are aspects of Canada that make it more civilized than America.

    • malthuss January 31, 2017 at 10:29 am #

      All White countries are in the same dilemma.
      Canada does have 1/5th? of the worlds fresh water.

      How are the Chem trails?

  71. BackRowHeckler January 31, 2017 at 3:53 am #

    Here’s to hoping President Trump isn’t our own Romulus Augustus. Jim hinted that may be the case last week in an oblique sort of way.

    If so, prepare for the Dark Ages.


  72. FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 6:44 am #

    During the phone conversation with Saudi Arabia King Salman Donald Trump has requested and Salman has agreed to provide safe zones for Syrian refugees.


    Here’s the Washington Times headline from a year ago:

    Saudi Arabia has 100,000 air-conditioned tents sitting empty, still won’t take Syrian refugees


    I guess Mr. Trump has a better negotiating technique than Obama. He knows that you can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.

    • FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 6:46 am #

      Let the sheiks pay for the mess they have created, not the American Taxpayer.

      • thwack January 31, 2017 at 10:02 am #

        Actually, you white people have no one to blame but yourselves, with all the wars you started over there.

        I think there might even be youtube footage of Khaddafi warning y’all about the flood of “migrants” heading for Europe if you removed him from power?

        And here you go again in Syria, trying to repeat the process by getting rid of Assad.

        Ive seen several interviews with him and he seems like a reasonable guy?

        He wears nice suits, his wife was born in the U.K…

        Why are you guys trying to replace him with some towel wearing, bearded, Aluhah Ahkbar type?

        • JimInFlorida January 31, 2017 at 10:35 am #

          Because Bashar Assad is blocking the oil and gas pipelines through his country. The Saudis and Israel want those pipelines in the worst way so they can deliver oil and gas to the E.U. market. If the U.S. wrecks Syria and has it run by Wahhabi and Sunni warlords, they are much easier to deal with. Washington couldn’t care less about the Christians, Alawites, and Shia who will be butchered.

          The E.U. is best served by buying their oil and gas from Russia, anyway. To buy from the Saudis will only open the door to further Arab and Muslim pollution of Europe.

          Israel and Saudi Arabia get along wonderfully. The Saudi royals are Donmeh Jews (jackals in Wahhabi clothing) and Israel is O.K. with that.

  73. barbisbest January 31, 2017 at 8:57 am #

    Then there’s the virtue signalling of the right. “Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious.” Oscar Wilde

    • outsider January 31, 2017 at 11:22 am #

      “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.” Samuel Johnson

      • thwack January 31, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

        “I don’t remember asking you a God damn thing?” — Samuel L. Jackson

  74. FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 9:26 am #

    The time is out of joint – Hamlet

    It’s not that the Soviet Union was a paradise or hell on earth – both are untrue – but that the collapse of the Soviet Union really was a geopolitical catastrophe, comparable only with the Fourth Crusade, part of which were Wendish, Northern and Albigensian Crusades and which were stopped only by the invasion of Genghis Khan.

    Actually Alexander Nevsky became a saint because he realized that.

    The problem for Russia is that the awareness of the magnitude of that disaster in the public consciousness is at the zero level, meanwhile for Russia, and for the rest of humanity, the story is not over yet.

    Thank God the American people delivered a serious blow to the Black Project by electing President Donald Trump, but if we use the analogy of WWII it is not the Stalingrad or even the battle of Moscow, it is the Battle of Smolensk in July-September 1941. And whether we like it or not the battle of Moscow will again happen near Moscow.

    Rest, rest, perturbed spirit!

    They swear

    So, gentlemen,
    With all my love I do commend me to you:
    And what so poor a man as Hamlet is
    May do, to express his love and friending to you,
    God willing, shall not lack. Let us go in together;
    And still your fingers on your lips, I pray.
    The time is out of joint: O cursed spite,
    That ever I was born to set it right!
    Nay, come, let’s go together.

    • outsider January 31, 2017 at 11:01 am #

      Hamlet – Very Apt.

      Lately my mind has been turning to my favorite poem, WB Yeat’s “The Second Coming.” My favorite line: “Things fall apart: the centre cannot hold.” It brings to mind all the once modern US infrastructure, crumbling and decaying, while what is left of our fortune is frittered away on endless trillion dollar Middle Eastern wars that have never served us peons – only the oligarchs who call all the shots.

      “And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
      Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born.”
      Was Yeats talking about the coming birth of Israel?

      • outsider January 31, 2017 at 11:19 am #

        I almost forgot:

        “The best lack all conviction, while the worst
        Are full of passionate intensity.”

        What better words to describe Hillary and Trump.

  75. FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 10:02 am #

    In Avdeevka, Eastern Ukraine, a humanitarian catastrophe was created as a result of the renewed shelling by Ukrainian Armed forces; in the city was interrupted power supply, heating and plumbing. Under the conditions of -4 degree frost it is virtually guaranteed extinction of people in a matter of hours.

  76. malthuss January 31, 2017 at 10:27 am #

    Yahoo News,

    A 58-story skyscraper in San Francisco is tilting and sinking — but the city says it’s safe to live in.

    An inspection by the city’s Department of Building Inspection concluded that the skyscraper, which has sunk 16 inches and tilted two inches since it opened in 2009, is safe to live in, according to The San Francisco Chronicle.

    The $350 million tower is home to over 400 multimillion-dollar condos and some pretty famous residents, including former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Joe Montana. In December, former tech executive Craig Ramsey scooped up the penthouse for $13 million.

    The building has been embroiled in scandal for months, as its developers, residents, and city officials argued over who was at fault for the building’s surprising vertical settlement.

  77. janet January 31, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

    You were wrong in presenting numbers that gave a distorted picture of the situation. You did not mention the much, much larger white population.

    How do you define “much, much larger” … Are you still living in the 1950s when whites were 90% of the population. Today non-Hispanic whites make up 63 percent of the U.S.

    My point still stands. There are more whites receiving government benefits than any other group.

    Whites are not the only ones working to maintain the benefit funding, which is what brh said. Non-whites work, non-whites pay taxes to support benefits to whites.

    Non-whites have equal rights to government benefits… but the fact is the numerical majority receiving those benefits are whites in spite of the fact that the white population is not “much, much larger”… just a little over half the population…

    Whites will soon be a minority. By 2050, Non-Hispanic white Americans will make up 47% of the population. And whites will still be the majority using government benefits.

  78. Sean Coleman January 31, 2017 at 12:47 pm #

    Excellent article by James. The final paragraph sums it up. There is an enormous problem in the world with thinking. (I have said often that this is because we (ie the liberal majority) are living in a deranged fantasy.) It does not seem likely that Donald is the man to sort it out. He may set things back if the fantasists return with a “We told you so” mandate and that is surely the last thing any sane person wants.

    Peter Hitchens hasn’t fallen in love with him anyway:


    I don’t agree with him (at least not fully) about attributing progress to religion (‘Anglo Christianity’ I think he says). That is a bit like Weber. I am more convinced by the late Raymond Crotty’s (who?) theory about the development of capitalism in the cold forests of western Europe, capitalism having originated as an agricultural system involving (by necessity) investing in future production.

  79. janet January 31, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

    Trump’s anti-immigration playbook was written 100 years ago. In Boston. How a trio of Harvard-educated blue bloods led a crusade to keep the “undesirables” out and make America great again.
    By Neil Swidey

    “The vow to “drain that great swamp.” The prediction that “the race which has made our country great will pass away.” The promise to beat back the “invading hostile army” of “criminal immigrants” that are the “mentally or physically defective” dregs of their homelands and “not the stuff of which patriots are made.”

    Maybe sentiments like these have also jumped out at you, in the news about immigration you’ve been consuming. The difference is that the writings on my reading list are more than a hundred years old.

    These familiar themes about bans, borders, and walls — and especially about how the radical and dangerous new immigrants don’t measure up to the “quality” ones we used to get — weren’t crafted by Donald Trump or his Breitbart consigliere, Steve Bannon, sitting in Trump Tower channeling the grievances of the white working class. Instead, they are part of an immigration Ur-text painstakingly assembled, brick by nativist brick, in Boston, by three Brahmin intellectuals, beginning in 1894. That’s when the trio founded the Immigration Restriction League, the equivalent of a modern-day think tank, just five years after all three had graduated from Harvard.”


  80. janet January 31, 2017 at 1:25 pm #

    Things would be different with Woodrow Wilson in the White House. Prescott Hall was sure of it. After all, in the five-volume history of the United States that Wilson had written when he was a Princeton professor, the future president described eastern and southern European immigrants pretty much the same way Hall had. They were “of the lowest class,” having “neither skill nor energy nor any initiative of quick intelligence.”

    Imagine Hall’s shock in 1915 when, after the literacy test had once more passed Congress, Wilson struck it down with the stroke of his pen. The literacy requirement, Wilson explained, would serve as a test not of an alien’s character but rather of his opportunity.

    Madison Grant’s fury took the form of a Birther cry. “Wilson himself did not come from native American stock,” he fumed, “and consequently had little pride in American antecedents or traditions.” (Wilson was born in the segregated South, but his mother had emigrated from England, and his grandparents were from Ireland and Scotland.)

  81. janet January 31, 2017 at 2:21 pm #


    In 1986, a Senate committee denied Sessions, then a 39-year-old U.S. attorney in Alabama, a federal judgeship. His former colleagues testified Sessions used the n-word and joked about the Ku Klux Klan, saying he thought they were “okay, until he learned that they smoked marijuana.”

    Anybody saying the KKK is OK, like Sessions did, does not understand anything about unlawful domestic terrorism.

    • janet January 31, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

      KKK = unlawful white Christian domestic terrorism

  82. barbisbest January 31, 2017 at 2:30 pm #

    Great comment a couple doors up janet, the one about the blue bloods gathering 100 years ago to hatch a plan to keep undesirables out. As I wrote election eve, don’t forget to set your clocks back 100 year’s tomorrow. The sad thing is, Hillary won the popular vote by a good margin, and remember, many votes for Trump were votes of hate of Hillary, not necessarily pro Trump. So, this is what we got! Hardly a referendum for Trump if you as me.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

      Nutty as usual: the Blue Bluds brought in the Irish – whom they hated and who hated them, all because they wanted cheap labor. The huge Irish influx was very hard on Anglo-Saxon working men, but their Elite had no feeling for them at all for the most part.

      A Nation by definition keeps people out – just like a cell keeps things in and keeps things out. Or on the macro level – like the skin of an organism. You’re not thinking organically, Barb. Your environmentalism is just voodoo, not anything rational or useful.

      • thwack January 31, 2017 at 3:29 pm #

        “A Nation by definition keeps people out – just like a cell keeps things in and keeps things out.” — Janos


        Yeah but a vagina lets things in. You’re not thinking organically Janos; Your racism is just voodoo, not anything rational or useful.

        Now go wash your ass, put on some nice shoes, and go out there and get yourself a Chinese red head. If you get scared, just remember that the penis mightier than the sword.

        White Power!

      • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 7:56 pm #

        Nobody likes the Irish… even the Irish.

  83. barbisbest January 31, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

    If you look at government, the undesirables are here. You can trust ‘ em. Ask the native Indians.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

      There would have been no America without the conquest of the Indians. We are the Native Americans after all. They were just living here.

      • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 6:01 pm #

        Nor a Rome without the Sabines.

        The “they were here first” argument is absurd.
        As is “we are here now”.

        It’s all ephemeral mo*********rs!
        That’s why it matters.
        Here today, gone mañana.

        Can’t wait ’til we bring back modified Dinosaurs… their first words; “you’re on my land”.


        • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 8:17 pm #

          So Israel doesn’t matter? Jews should just open up to the Arabs? Think that will go well? Do you care? I bet you do. I’d tell you to get your feet on the ground, but I think you do. You just don’t want us to have our feet on the ground – This Ground.

          • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 9:08 pm #

            Again with your paranoid dilusions!

            Projecting again.

          • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 9:25 pm #

            My Yoshinos bloom early, not before the apple and pear blossoms, but early, and for a far shorter time.

            I want them to stay. I dread the Spring winds, bringing the warm air… my blossoms fall.

            I know they’ll return, the blossoms, at least for some time, but Yoshinos are short lived trees and the gift bearer too will disappear.

            Haley’s comet… I witnessed it In my youth. Cherished.

  84. barbisbest January 31, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

    Whether or not Trump lives up to his populist sounding rhetoric during the campaign remains to be seen, but his cabinet picks seem to belie all that.

  85. barbisbest January 31, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

    You are not the native American Janos. That’s a ball faced lie! BTW your comment above about Catholics and talking about population control is moronic. The Duggers aren’t Catholic!! Many non Catholic families have a lot of kids. Besides, it wasn’t that long ago that people were freed of sex without worry of pregnancy. Women had no choice but to have as many children as they were to have. The baby boom was bound to happen because of that.

    • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 5:51 pm #

      It’s bold faced, or bare faced… even bald faced, but never does a lie have a face of a ball. Never.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 8:23 pm #

      Well the Church is famous for being against birth control. And as the largest such church, it is the usual target of people like you and Sooty. But you are in such an oppositional state of consciousness now that you won’t even allow agreement. You better check yourself. Did you ever love a man? Even your father?

      The Indians didn’t found the nation of America. Whites did. Thus we are the Native Americans. It sounds strange but that’s just because it’s unfamiliar. You got used to the bald faced lie that the Indians were the Native Americans and that a Nation is just geography. My statement is both logical and correct. In time it will become familiar and feel as right as it is already logically and factually right. Don’t put your feelings above the Truth, Barb. You have to adapt yourself to It, not It to you.

  86. barbisbest January 31, 2017 at 3:16 pm #

    Guess what Janos. America was already here before Columbus! And the indiand bathed regularly and, they say, couldn’t understand why these dirty colonists did not.

    • malthuss January 31, 2017 at 9:43 pm #

      No ‘USA’ was not here. North America was here.

  87. tucsonspur January 31, 2017 at 3:49 pm #

    “How do you define much, much larger?” Janet

    I already defined it.

    150,000,000 more is much, much larger. Understand? Two is greater than one, and so forth. See? Again you are wrong, trying to fog over a clear landscape.

    The reason whites receive the largest number of government benefits is because they outnumber blacks or Hispanics by scores of millions.

    When blacks and Hispanics far outnumber whites the system will implode, if it hasn’t already done so, and whites will be severely beaten by all those angry, empty hands.

    As it looks now, blacks and Hispanics will be the majority by 2050.
    The rest of your argument is specious, does not stand, and is unworthy of further discussion.

    • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 4:54 pm #

      Janet, AKA WPA_CCC, AKA Asoka, AKA Absalom is a propaganda bot.
      Posting all day every day the same propaganda and talking points with the same smug and tongue-in-cheek shtick. It’s best ignored.

  88. tucsonspur January 31, 2017 at 4:23 pm #

    Looking for a good Catholic priest?


    • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 6:25 pm #

      So many Christians, so few tall buildings

    • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 10:03 am #

      Fr. Pizzo is either a heretic, if he’s serious, or not much of a priest if he was kidding. I’ve never found the Church to have much of a sense of humour about suicide, but that’s just me.

      • Frankiti February 1, 2017 at 8:11 pm #

        Ironically their god, or hero, or whatever committed suicide to save everyone. Hypocrisy in religion? C’mon!

  89. FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 4:33 pm #

    Why did the Soviet Union die? And when?

    Coming to power of Gorbachev, and even Yeltsin, was not the cause of the death of the USSR, but its result. Well, for pity’s sake, how could Gorbachev come to power in the USSR? After all, he had a large mark on his forehead – the traitor, Judas. And his wife – First Lady, for God’s sake?

    And I’m not even talking about the demoralization of the Soviet Army.

    Excuse me, but if the US President would try to voluntarily withdraw the troops not even from Germany, but from Afghanistan or Kosovo, not having discussed it with the Congress and the Chiefs of Staff, he immediately would be impeached, and if he tries to take any illegal actions, then he is very lucky, if he lives to impeachment. Just in a normally functioning state such “accidents” are impossible.

    So when did the Soviet Union die? And for me personally it is obvious that States do not die peacefully in its bed. Everyone says that the 1917 February revolution was bloodless, but there was an armed uprising on 27 March with street battles in Petrograd, and then the Kornilov revolt, who arrested the royal family, and I am sure that without the Bolshevik revolution, sooner or later he would have received the order to shoot them and probably would have carried out this order.

    The Soviet Union was finished off by the force of arms. When did it happen? When the army was in Moscow? The combat units with combat-ready weapons and equipment, rather than draftees with holsters stuffed with paper! They were seen by millions of people! When?! Why nobody remembers anything? After all, it’s important! After all, that is what defines our situation now and our position in the future.

  90. FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 4:51 pm #

    By a strange and rather suspicious coincidence, at the same time with deployment of the Soviet troops to Afghanistan, in the Soviet Union began the so-called “five-year stretch of lush funerals”. And, as we know now thanks to “Le Nouvel Observateur” interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, the deployment of Soviet troops to Afghanistan was not a surprise for the United States, and if this relationship does exist, then the above-mentioned five-year stretch, most likely was too, modeled on some computers.

    However, the rapid development of events and their scale suggests that in addition to the operational links were, I would say, meta-historical. And for their sake I want to recall that time and these events, especially when you consider that these meta-historical or if you like mystical connections undoubtedly exist today.

  91. Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 5:18 pm #

    “The reader by now probably detects my ambivalent feelings in this bundle of issues and grievances…”

    The ambivalence comes from cognitive dissonance. Perhaps attributed to approving of some of Trump’s actions, or stances, but not the man, or his delivery.

    This is a common psychological glitch related to confirmation bias.

    The ancients were familiar with this. Particularly the Stoics.

    “Choose as a guide one whom you will admire more when you see him act than when you hear him speak”.

    I am the mind that many people much prefer to have a leader lie to them, or conceal from them, the truth. The dirty truth and the dirty work to get at it.

    Again, humans are programmed to respond to, react to, and embrace optimism, even when they KNOW it to be false.

    Everything WILL get better, it has to, progress of time equates to progress of the human condition… doesn’t it?

    That’s what they promise.

    Cycles. It runs in cycles… and now the rubber is meeting the road, but friction burns, but friction drives…

  92. FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

    The first to die was Kosygin – allegedly the only member of the Politburo, who reportedly voted against the deployment of troops in Afghanistan. Although I personally believe that it is necessary to start counting from the death of Vladimir Vysotsky, who was very symbolically born on that fateful day.

    But for those who are not ready to accept the fact that the Poet plays a greater role for the State than Administrator, no less important than the death of Kosygin was the tragic death of Masherov, who, although not a member of the Politburo, but by the virtue of his moral position, which he took as a leader of the Republic, bordering the rebellious Poland, of course was a key figure that could have turn the flow of events in a different direction.

    And his death proves that the Soviet Union did not go quietly without a fight, and was destroyed by its own “elite” in a desperate, albeit hidden battle by treacherous stab in the back. Which brings the death of Masherov beyond the five-year stretch of magnificent funerals, when most of the top leaders of the Soviet Union died one after the other, in their bed, after a long and protracted illness.

    No, of course the highest Soviet leaders died of diseases before, but after the death of Kosygin they were as attacked by some plague. This was especially felt by those who lived in the center of Moscow. Every 3-4 months the entire center within the Garden Ring at the time of the funeral was cordoned off by a solid chain of soldiers, to go through which was possible only with passport with appropriate registration stamp.

    Ahead on the gun carriage the coffin of politburo member, behind still alive members of the Politburo, then military and finally columns of herded for the funeral public.

    It got to the ridiculous: Gorky Street is full of “grieving people” and on Tverskoy Boulevard, the children are playing and skiing and laughing and the whole procession, including the members of Politburo are looking at them through the military cordon and smile. And children, too, laughing and waving their hands at them. Complete surrealism.

    Additional surrealism to the picture added scraps of paper sticking out of the packed with used newspapers holsters of the military officers, the commanders of the unarmed soldiers. That is, these deaths were either truly natural or just they were all cleaned up one by one, by the group that seized power.

    But there was one night when I saw in Moscow real combat-ready army, men in black uniforms with guns loaded with bullets with the displaced center of gravity, designed for maximum damage to he enemy personnel.

    That is, us, the Muscovites.

    • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 5:47 pm #

      And here is the other spammer… hosting its Russian history blog on someone else’s blog… hosting, like a parasite. Always the last word… from a story nobody cares to hear.

      Get your own f*****g blog

      • FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 6:26 pm #

        Is it just a Russian or our common history?

        The whole concept of this blog, as many others like it, was born out of the idea of “natural death” of “over-stretched” empires.

        • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 7:46 pm #

          Ostensibly, yes, this is your cover.
          But your comments are rarely germane to the discussion at hand… because that’s not the point. The point is to fill, obfuscate… render pointless. drive away

    • elysianfield February 1, 2017 at 10:41 am #

      “guns loaded with bullets with the displaced center of gravity, designed for maximum damage to he enemy personnel.”

      For your edification;
      Bullets with displaced center of gravity would, indeed, disrupt and provide maximum damage. However, those bullets that were not internally symmetrical would be so inaccurate, as to never hit an enemy over say, 50 yards. They would, in the parlance of the shooting community…”spray like a mad-woman’s shit…(ski)”.

  93. FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 6:19 pm #

    On frosty morning of January 25, 1982, I went out and walked toward the subway Pushkinskaya around 8 am. Turning to the Big Bronny street I saw the APC BTR-70 with a turret with automatic double-barreled anti-aircraft gun. Honestly, a few days before I witnessed some of the events which, although not directly linked, but have prepared me for such a turn of events.

    So I was not surprised, and looking down, went forward, but when passing the APC looked up and saw nodules on the lieutenant cheeks, clinging to the gun handle directed towards the courtyard of the Museum of the Border Troops, where was the Office of Chief Directorate of Camps – Gulag. And the bullet belt was loaded in, and the safety was off.

    And according to the ordinance, this means that this lieutenant was ordered to shoot at his discretion – that is, without further orders. Also, I noticed the people in black suits with guns and large-caliber machine gun in front of the entrance to the house where lived Mikhail Suslov and the family of the First Secretary of the Moscow Party Committee Grishin. And many others.

    Well, I did not particularly long time admired all that scenery, and moved briskly to the subway, but passing the entrance to the courtyard of the Museum of Frontier Troops saw in there a few infantry fighting vehicles and armed soldiers in full gear. At the entrance to the subway already stood a cordon, but they had no weapons. But the subway was full of armed soldiers, with guns at the ready and with the safety off. In the subway! You can not imagine, and I can not explain how it was weird!

    Arriving at work, I learned that Suslov has died. I’m afraid that he, who personified the leading role of the Communist Party did not die a natural death.

    It finished the long agony of the Soviet Union that defeated Hitler, but despite the efforts of Brezhnev, was never able to recover from the blow dealt by Khrushchev, and died.

    Party has ceased to be the guiding force in society and state. The era of the 5th Directorate of the KGB has begun.

    What most of all amazes me that these soldiers with AK-74 were seen by millions, but none of them described these events. Although that means that there was no struggle after the Brezhnev death. The struggle for power, which determined the future of the USSR and Russia, took place between 19 and 25 January 1982. And what happened from the 25 January 1982 until the moment when Yeltsin snatched power from Gorbachev was determined by the group, which seized the power in the Soviet Union.

    • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 6:24 pm #

      What a self-absorbed prick.

      All part of the act.

      Post and fill.

      Clutter and redirect.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 2:00 am #

        Reading Finc is like looking out of the wrong side of a telescope. Everything seems farther away and smaller.

  94. Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 6:31 pm #

    900 State Dept Ivy League trust fund appointees dissent.

    Trump is shrinking government in many outstanding ways!

    Thank you Mr. Trump!!

    And please stop kicking so much ass… I can’t keep up.

  95. FincaInTheMountains January 31, 2017 at 6:52 pm #

    From Donetsk coming a lot of unverified information usual at the time of relapse of the conflict. They write that the Ukrainian tanks went on attack, took Kominternovo, wounded Givi and pro-Russian militias in response firing with vengeance. And all that against the backdrop of alleged evacuation of 12 thousand residents of Avdeevka.

    It is clear that Poroshenko executing an emergency scenario that was prepared a long time ago for the ultimate failure of the Minsk armistice and to provoke Russia. It is also clear that we are not going to remain silent, as before, and give up neutral territory.

    They argue, is it right time for escalation or not, good for Trump or should’ve been done under Obama? Never mind. You have to beat the crap out of the junta, as a minimum, forcing a complete ceasefire. At most, crush the Ukro-Army. Well, we did not choose the moment, the aggressor did. Russian world only responds for now.

  96. BackRowHeckler January 31, 2017 at 6:54 pm #

    Big goddam demonstration at the State Capitol yesterday, illegals demanding financial aid, in state tuition and free tuition at state U.

    Dem pols were out leading the charge.

    The question is, what are our obligations to these people? What do we owe them? Are resources here unlimited in this near bankrupt state?

    One of our largest employers, Aetna Insurance, might be leaving the state for greener pastures. They’ve been here since 1846. There might be a billion people in the world who would like to come here and get free tuition at the University of CT. Are they all welcome — all’s you gotta do is find a way to bust your way in here — then the freebees start flowing?


    • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 7:32 pm #

      What the f*** does this have to do with Russia?

      • BackRowHeckler January 31, 2017 at 8:34 pm #

        Hey Frank, it seems everything has to do about Russia nowadays.

        When Hemingway shot himself he was paranoid the FBI was following him around. They were! Turns out in the 40s Papa signed up as an eager KGB spy, Code Name: Argo. People used to wonder why he was f=kking around in the Spanish Civil War so much other than to get between the sheets with Martha Gelhorn. Now we know why.

        See, Russia again.


      • elysianfield February 1, 2017 at 10:47 am #

        “What the f*** does this have to do with Russia”

        Uhhh, to each, according to his needs?

    • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 7:43 pm #

      Why doesn’t Google, Apple, Facebook, etc., simply buy Ocean Liners and freighters and make their journey easier? Imagine, global ports-o-call! The SS Immigration and her fleet can travel the world picking up migrants. Who is against constant and continuous migrant trolling? Why? Why not? Make their journeys easier, quicker, safer… and their numbers exponentially larger. Heck, buy airplanes, fleets of airplanes. No visa, no problem.

      Send them all to San Fran and LA.. Hollywood… and Portland O and Seattle W.
      But wait, the Silicon Plantation masters demand a trained workforce? An Indentured workforce? The H1-B conveniently brings lower wages and fealty.

      Instead of lobbying congress to the tune of hundreds of millions, did you ever ponder why they don’t simply build schools and training grounds? Google U’s and Facebook Academies and Apple Academias? Why? Because they don’t want to PAY market rate. They don’t want open markets. They want controlled labor. Indenture.

      • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

        And nothing makes indenture easier than a fortuitous simpleton from Gujarat who was sh*tting on the street yesterday and is driving a Mazda in Santa Clarita today. Wait, it gets better… they are docile people from a culture bent on passivity, class division, and self restraint! Gold mine baby!!!!!

        • tucsonspur January 31, 2017 at 7:56 pm #

          Yeah, I get all that, but do you think the Russian military budget is overextended?

          Stay sassy.

          • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 8:02 pm #

            Eight Ukrainian troops killed this week… and did you read that Apple is literally sitting on 250 billion… yes $250 BILLION dollars!!!

            Yeah, they can’t build a training ground, a campus (not a flying saucer office park with plants on roof, a real one) to build employees.

            Heck European football is legendary for building employees. Not hard … but, wait, they can leave for better contracts in the FREE market.

            But I digress, the Minsk agreements are in serious jeopardy due to Donetsk’s People’s Republic.

          • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 8:15 pm #

            European futbol clubs literally feed, educate and train future employees from a young tender age. Yes, they identify talent, recruit, and train. Some are it, some don’t… but they do it. Not the Silicon Plantation masters… nah, they have the over 10,000 colleges in India train them, and bring them here and pay them a fraction of the rate of a US worker. Ask Disney! They train princesses and Goofies, but not tech employees, odd, no? Much better to horde cash and pay your C-suite hundreds of millions and billions… but they love the immigrants, they feel their pain brah!

          • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 8:18 pm #


            That’s the sound of my mic dropping

            And I still ain’t half-stepping’! Peace!!!

  97. Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 8:33 pm #

    Trump’s pick for the Supreme Court:


    His appointment will be revenge indeed against the fiends who struck down Neeno Scalia. Enough? No, they should be brought to Justice in the fullest sense of the word.

    As ever with President Donald John Trump, one can only marvel at the Power and the Glory.

    • BackRowHeckler January 31, 2017 at 8:39 pm #

      I’ll say it again.

      The man is Heaven Sent.

      • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 9:22 pm #

        No actually he is not, and he is going to be sent back to Hell where he came from in short order. Just watch.

        • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 9:27 pm #

          Hell is Earth, for heaven is otherworldly.
          Here we roost, and here you wait

          • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 10:39 am #

            Hell is empty, for all the devils are at 1600 Gropecunt Lane.

          • elysianfield February 1, 2017 at 10:52 am #

            “Hell is empty, for all the devils are at 1600 Gropecunt Lane”

            …Not a very Canadian-like thing to post”.

          • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 11:34 am #

            Yeah, I’m a person, not a cliché.

          • elysianfield February 1, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

            “Yeah, I’m a person, not a cliché.”

            Well, thank you for THAT clarification.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:29 pm #

        He may have to declare martial law if this keeps up. Nationalize the media for a time. Invoke the RICO act against the Democrat Party, etc. Only radical surgery can save a patient as sick as America.

        For decades, no – generations, we let Communists educate our kids. What did we expect to happen?

        • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 11:09 am #

          Keep your authoritarian masturbation fantasies private, please. There might be minors reading this.

    • Frankiti January 31, 2017 at 9:16 pm #

      Americans were trained to respect the thumb point measured lies of the bought politician. They prefer it. It hurts them, the truth scares them so. In the back of the mind the grim reaper abides… pushed and buried through frenzy and distraction until dreaded ennui lets him slip through…

      Lie to us, assuage, we eat up fiction and entertainment. It’s a drug. We want our politics the same. Hope. We deserve it.

      Suspend disbelief. That’s what we want from our pols.

      The reality king is here. Breathe the air, come outside again

      • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:46 pm #

        Yes, Trump is the Reality King, the Lion in Winter, saying to us come, come again whoever you are, ours in not a Carivan of Despair.

    • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 9:57 pm #

      You are a conspiracy theorist nutter who is way out of your crawl space and who needs to go back on his meds.

      • bentley12 January 31, 2017 at 10:05 pm #

        I’ve had my fill of the nutters here. Especially Skorenzy. Good night for good. You have turned Jim’s site into a right-wing sewer pit for the alt-right. I’m glad I switched charge cards and did not update my account with Patreon so no more of my donations will be going to Jim. Sad but true.

        • BackRowHeckler January 31, 2017 at 10:47 pm #

          You use the word ‘nutter’.

          Are you from ‘across the pond’?

          Earlier in the week an esteemed poster from Canada, in no uncertain terms, told all of us Americans to go to hell.

          Seems like you foreigners don’t like us too much since the Messiah is no longer in the white House.


          • messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 8:28 pm #

            Who said it?

            “We are a nation of immigrants.. but we are a nation of laws”

            “Our nation is rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country…

            Illegal immigrants take jobs from citizens or legal immigrants, they impose burdens on our taxpayers…

            That is why we are doubling the number of border guards, deporting more illegal immigrants than ever before, cracking down on illegal hiring, barring benefits to illegal aliens, and we will do more to speed the deportation of illegal immigrants arrest for crimes…

            It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws that has occurred in the last few years.. and we must do more to stop it.”

            [Standing Ovation] via Zerohedge

        • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:31 pm #

          Good night, Irene. Your tears turn to gold when they hit the ground. Be sure to gather them up and don’t let the bad fairies get them…..

  98. FlavianPlot January 31, 2017 at 9:34 pm #

    I notice many prominent writers already rethinking their Trump support. Craig Roberts continuously recognizes then quickly excuses Trump’s fatal shortcomings for leading the country through a tragically complex set of perils, writing that, “A strong leader needs to be mean and tough.” Agreed but that doesn’t cut it and is pretty lame justification for unabashed ignorance that too many pass off as brutal honesty. Trump’s not a misunderstood unpolished savant, nor is he the pure villain most need him to be. He is, however, benignly bigoted, if not racist, and inarguably stupid — a rich but also typical American. Funny that Dr. Roberts, having never met a ‘conspiracy’ tale he disbelieved before 2016, is now boggled and inspired by the oddball story of Trump’s regular season sweep and Super Bowl squeaker victory. He can’t imagine why some of us think Trump is a charlatan in one way or another. Just give hope/Trump a chance, Roberts asks. With eyes wide shut, he’s still found no evidence that Trump is an always intended patsy instead named MVP of history, for the time being.

    Trump cheerleaders ignore:

    How unbelievable the obliteration of 17 Republican primary contenders by absurd defeat margins is. Multiple billions in free media buzz given to Trump conveniently moved him cross the goal line every time. Thousands of Wikileaks intercepts exposing HRC’s collusion with big media referees and state governors who helped stiff arm and rob Sanders of primary votes are the true game changers. Nah, ballots weren’t stuffed for Trump though. Foreign media game play coverage and Russian (ahem) diplomacy enabled inside players to handoff Clinton playbook pages to online publishers — material that is promptly dismissed as FAKE NEWS whenever it suits a particular partisan slant (Yeah, Trump probably never attended a squirt party, except that one time on Epstein Island, or possibly that other time overseas). Comey’s 1st congressional ALL CLEAR/no indictment signal to scoundrels is proof of Hillary’s covered-up corruption, yet Comey’s late 2-minute warning to Congress a/k/a The Establishment that 650k emails which were sure to deliver some convictions are now lost to cognitive dissonance. Trump 180-vows not to prosecute per peaceful transfer of power tradition. Fuck YOU.

    The Election was forfeit, Trump the runner up Mr. America, and Paul Craig Roberts can’t wrap his head around it. Yeah, we may get dumb lucky if Trump does some good, but a new shining casino on a hill built on a foundation of lies will still crumble.

    The media consumer is now psychotic to the point of being unable to distinguish Truth from psy-op, even if the agents record themselves with famous dupes (Steve Piecznik/Alex Jones) during acts of misdirection and post to YouTube.

    From American Psychosis:

    [The lies create a climate in which everyone is assumed to be lying. The truth becomes suspect and obscured. Narratives begin to be believed not because they are true, or even sound true, but because they are emotionally appealing. The aim of systematic lying, as Arendt wrote, is the “transformation of human nature itself.”

    The lies eventually foster somnambulism among a population that surrenders to the magical thinking and ceases to care. It checks out. It becomes cynical. It only asks to be entertained and given a vent for its frustration and rage. Demagogues produce enemies the way a magician pulls rabbits out of a hat. They wage constant battles against nonexistent dangers, rapidly replacing one after the other to keep the rhetoric at a fever pitch.

    “Practically speaking, the totalitarian ruler proceeds like a man who persistently insults another man until everybody knows that the latter is his enemy, so that he can, with some plausibility, go out and kill him in self-defense,” Arendt wrote. “This certainly is a little crude, but it works—as everybody will know who has ever watched how certain successful careerists eliminate competitors.” ] — Chris Hedges

    • Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:42 pm #

      Trump doesn’t hate Whites – and that’s just not acceptable to the Elite. That’s it in a nutshell. So of course he becomes the Candidate of Whites who are being ruthlessly persecuted in their own Country. I grant you the haters are often flummoxed when asked “How is Trump a racist?” – caught between the real meaning of the word and the one that has been implanted in their minds by conditioning. Only at the higher levels are the Haters aware of what’s been done to people: minorities taught to hate Whites and Whites taught to hate themselves. And the new Academics know, those who teach all Whites are racist by definition. Thus Whites are being denied Dasein, or their Being in itself and for itself, with the only “good” White defined as one who works against his or her own collective interests and for the collective interests of non-Whites.

      • janet February 1, 2017 at 12:44 am #

        “Thus Whites are being denied Dasein” –janos

        Dasein is universal and has nothing to do with race. You are contorting and misinterpreting Heidegger. Your white philosophy grade is an F.

        Being-in is not a ‘property’ which Dasein sometimes has and sometimes does not have, and without which it could just be just as well as it could be with it. It is not the case that man ‘is’ and then has, by way of an extra, a relationship-of-Being towards the ‘world’–a world with which he provides himself occasionally. Dasein is never ‘proximally’ an entity which is, so to speak, free from Being-in, but which sometimes has the inclination to take up a ‘relationship’ towards the world. Taking up relationships towards the world is possible only because Dasein, as Being-in-the-world, is as it is. This state of Being does not arise just because some entity is present-at-hand outside of Dasein and meets up with it. Such an entity can ‘meet up with’ Dasein only in so far as it can, of its own accord, show itself within a world. (Heidegger, “Being and Time” 12: 84)

        janos, your work is benefiting the collective interest of non-whites, so please don’t stop.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 1:54 am #

          Exactly. Whites have to stop denying the greatness in themselves, their Being-in-the-world. We don’t exist to serve other races, but for “that” and what “it” wants of us.

          • thwack February 1, 2017 at 9:43 am #

            Good grief, is Janos so desperate he’s dragging Heidegger into his racial jihad?


            Look Janos,

            if Heidegger was here he would tell you the same thing I told you:

            “wash your ass, straighten up the front room, put on some nice shoes… and go out and GET you a white woman”

            In other words, TALKING about what a white man is, is not the same as BEING a white man; you are just LARPing on the internet and Heidegger would call that inauthentic and thus the true source of all your problems.

            Being and Time?

            Nigga its TIME for you to stop BEING such a giant crybaby.

            Do me a favor,

            Go out and talk to 5 white girls everyday; can you do that?

            Trust me, it will make you feel a lot better about yourself.

            You waste all this energy being a cyber racist when you could be pouring it into some deserving white girl? Get out there man, let these bitches know that you all well; and scopin and hopin to crack them white legs wide open and hit it with the shaft…

            The key to ALL women is to fuck them like they owe you money, and ain’t got it.

            Now get out there and make it happen!

            White Power!

          • elysianfield February 1, 2017 at 11:05 am #

            ” and scopin and hopin to crack them white legs wide open…”

            Jesse? Is that you? Keep spittin’ them rhymes….

            I’m so down with Hymie Town.

          • thwack February 1, 2017 at 11:25 am #

            ooh look?

            I attracted a faggot?

            Will it go away on it own?

            Or does it need to be beaten?

          • elysianfield February 1, 2017 at 12:01 pm #

            “Or does it need to be beaten?”

            Thank you sir…may I have another?

            …is that all ya got?

          • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

            Actually not, Thwack. If they’re breeding on our dime, how could we beat them in the baby race? It’s like the national debt: if money is loaned into existence with interest accrued, by definition it can never be paid.

            And that’s just assuming the minorities already here, without millions more streaming in, legally or illegally.

            To defeat the penis, we need the sword. And to wield the sword, we must first wield the pen. You see? Sequence and specialization. You don’t just climb Mt Everest. Or go to the Moon. Or build a bridge. Or do any great or big thing. Or have a child – not if you intend to raise it well, which means home schooling.

  99. janet January 31, 2017 at 10:43 pm #

    Frankiti to Finca: “But your comments are rarely germane to the discussion at hand” (El burro llamando al otro orejón.)

    Frankiti, your comments are rarely germane to the discussion at hand. Mostly you engage in name calling. Weird. At least my comments have substance (not DNC talking points).

    It was distressing to watch Hillary Clinton use the Secretary’s office to promote fracking around the world, lead the charge for catastrophic regime change in Libya and support corporate coups in Honduras and Ukraine. We still have time to block Tillerson from even worse actions.

    As head of Exxon, Tillerson conducted his own foreign policy for decades, putting the needs of the oil barons ahead of his country. He devastated critical habitats worldwide, exploited local workers and oppressed Indigenous communities who had lived for innumerable generations in the paths he targeted for his destructive bulldozers and oil rigs. His abusive exploits are well documented (e.g., Steve Coll’s Private Empire)

    Tillerson and Exxon funded the climate denial movement to block restrictions on the use of fossil fuels even as their own scientists warned them of the dangers. Exxon plans to increase the amount of oil and gas burnt worldwide by 2040.

    Tillerson has rampant conflicts of interest. He has refused to recuse himself from cases involving Exxon, such as their human right abuses in Indonesia. Exxon has fossil fuel contracts across the planet, posing massive conflicts of interests. For instance, Exxon has long sought Russia’s vast oil and gas deposits. From 2011 to 2013, Exxon signed deals with Russian to explore the Black Sea, develop shale resources in western Siberia, and drill for oil in the Arctic.

    The level of resistance by the American people to Trump has been inspiring. Action in the streets, in our workplaces and our schools is critical to opposing the Trump agenda. Now we must insist that our elected officials in the US Senate stand up to Trump as well.

    Please call your Senator now. Stop Tillerson’s nomination, and help build an America and a world that works for us all.

    We have the power. People power.

  100. Janos Skorenzy January 31, 2017 at 11:50 pm #

    Where did I hear about Justice Scalia being found with a pillow over his face? What crazy blog or sick website? Why, it was reported on all the mainstream networks.

    Do you understand yet? They wanted us to know. They were mocking us.

    • janet February 1, 2017 at 12:19 am #

      “Where did I hear about Justice Scalia being found with a pillow over his face? Why, it was reported on all the mainstream networks.” –janos

      And you believed it? What kind of sick puppy are you? Now you are citing MSM to support your crazy claims. LOL!

      As usual, janos, you have it all wrong. Your conspiracy theory has been debunked by the guy who first found Scalia dead.

      The owner of the Texas ranch where Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia died struck back against the conspiracy theorists.

      John Poindexter told the Daily News he wants to respond to those running wild with his comments earlier this week — that he found Scalia with “a pillow over his head” in his room at the Cibolo Creek Ranch Saturday morning.

      With even boldfaced names like Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump raising questions, Poindexter, a Houston manufacturing magnate, said the conservative justice’s pillow was above his head and resting against the headboard of the bed.

      “There was a pillow over his head, not over his face,” said Poindexter. “The face was entirely clear.”

      Owner of Texas ranch where Antonin Scalia died clarifies pillow location after ‘pillow over his head’ comments stir theories


      • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 12:39 am #

        Who put it over his head? And in any case, the face is part of the head so he doesn’t necessarily deny it was the face by saying the head. Just so, Hispanics often say they love America – and by America they mean the whole Western Hemisphere not the United States per se.

        • janet February 1, 2017 at 12:47 am #

          “Just so, Hispanics often say they love America – and by America they mean the whole Western Hemisphere not the United States per se.” –janos

          LOL. “the whole western hemisphere” is America. As in North America, Central America, and South America. It is not a difficult concept to grasp. The names are a dead giveaway.

        • Frankiti February 1, 2017 at 8:07 am #

          They also love driving drunk and abusing their spouses.
          See the figures, call your family and domestic courts.

  101. janet February 1, 2017 at 12:13 am #


    The Baltic Dry Index, a measure of commodity shipping costs, surged to a two-year high following the election of Donald Trump, who campaigned to invest as much as $1 trillion on infrastructure in the U.S. The spending would be a boon for owners of vessels ferrying iron ore and other commodities around the world, accelerating the Baltic index’s recovery in the past two weeks.

    Great to see Trump on board with Krugman and Keynesian economics: Trump agrees more government spending is good!

  102. Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 12:36 am #

    Does anyone believe Chucky Schumer’s tears were real (or How stupid are you?)? I doooooo, bentley cries as he falls into the abyss, his voice falling as he accelerates towards his doom.

    • janet February 1, 2017 at 1:09 am #

      Scolding Trump for tweeting insults instead of focusing on his presidential duties, Amy Schumer wrote, “I know Chuck Schumer and HE CANNOT act trust me. He can barely smile on cue. He can’t help but be transparent and genuine. He was hurt for those people and all the people facing such unconstitutional injustice.”

      • Frankiti February 1, 2017 at 8:04 am #

        Amy Scummer can’t act or be funny. She stole Silverman’s shtick of raunchy language and raunchy subject matter and wedded it to her proudly fat figure. Seem familiar? See Lena “Sloppy Pizza Dough” Dunham. These people are not original, are not funny, and don’t matter. Their opinions are worthless

        • elysianfield February 1, 2017 at 11:09 am #

          And further, Amy Schumer claims she is related to Chuck….

        • thwack February 1, 2017 at 11:36 am #

          “Amy Scummer can’t act or be funny. She stole Silverman’s shtick of raunchy language and raunchy subject matter and wedded it to her proudly fat figure.”


          OK, but women in general are not funny because thats not their job.

          There job is to suck all the fun out of the room.

          BTW– Silverman stole Sandra Bernhards shtick and just added an extra thick layer of nihilism and narcissism; its funny for about a minute.

          • malthuss February 1, 2017 at 11:49 am #

            You were mentioning White people, above.

            However there was no ‘reply’ button at your comment.

            While Africans were hunting each other [for food] and hunting Albinos for ‘body parts,’ Whites were building things like the Internet.

            However to obfuscate that, we have;

            The left trying to replace every last bit of White culture with negroes.

            black Santa Clause,
            black superheroes,
            black Annie,
            black Star Wars,
            black James Bond,
            now black Lady Liberty.
            That hideous ape like creature who was to grace [bwaaa] the $20 bill. Ms Tubman.

            Janos, Malcolm Exlax daughter was arrested, in a stolen truck, with a bunch of maimed pit bulls.
            Ya know how jigs love dog fighting. This happened this week.

          • thwack February 1, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

            You forgot to mention “walking on the moon.”

            Im deducting 100 points from your white man credit score.

            Don’t let it happen again or you will be downgraded to negro status.

            White Power!

          • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 3:29 pm #

            And when a plane flies overhead late at night, Thwacks lifts his drunken head and says to himself, “The White Man stole that shit from us.” The porch upon which he sits, remains silent in wooden agreement.

        • seawolf77 February 2, 2017 at 9:55 am #

          She’s bigger than your dumb ass. Not bad for Regan MacNeil all growed up.

  103. Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 1:50 am #


    This guy looks like a younger version of Q. But he stayed true to his religious upbringing, while Q wandered off the road to pick daisies (pool, high yellow gals, grammar, warbucks, etc).

    • BackRowHeckler February 1, 2017 at 2:11 am #

      Maybe 2 more picks after this one, too!

      That’s what winning this election was all about.

      But does Judge Gorsuch have the legal acumen and brilliant mind of the Wise Latina? That’s the question.


      • thwack February 1, 2017 at 9:56 am #

        Yeah, Im not sure Ruth Bader Ginsburg can hold out for 4 more years?

        Maybe they should start allowing the justices to choose their own replacements?

        Also, is it some archaic law that requires their robes to be black?

        What if you wanted to wear cyan or purple…?

        • JimInFlorida February 1, 2017 at 1:11 pm #

          Perhaps Justice Clarence Thomas should show up in Chicago Bulls uniform to justify himself? Some bling around his neck and he’s ready to roundhouse that gavel up somebody’s haid! Lay down da law and shit…

          • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

            He got his self a White Wife. He a real nigga beatin’ the White Man at his own game.

        • elysianfield February 1, 2017 at 8:08 pm #

          “What if you wanted to wear cyan or purple…?”

          You certainly could, if you were bereft of taste, judgment, a sense of history….

  104. tucsonspur February 1, 2017 at 3:34 am #

    One more time on Scalia’s pillow.

    It must have been a “My Pillow”, because they really made him own it.

  105. capt spaulding February 1, 2017 at 8:30 am #

    Just read online that Sally Yates was fired after a copy of the Constitution was found on her computer.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 3:54 pm #

      That’s just pathetic, Cap. She was fired for betraying the Leader whom she is sworn to support in the lawful exercise of his duties.

      • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 4:42 pm #

        The A.G. is sworn to uphold the Constitution and the duties of her office. Her oath is not sworn to any individual. The situation is no different with respect to a temporary acting official than to one approved by Congress.

        The text of the oath follows: “I (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

        All real Americans understand this. If Janos were a real American, he would understand it as well. In fact he may be aware of it but feel entitled to misrepresent it. That would be consistent with the extensive record we already have of his character.

        • messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 10:44 pm #

          “The Attorney General is appointed by the President and takes office afterconfirmation by the United States Senate. He or she serves at the pleasure of the president and can be removed by the president at any time; the attorney general is also subject to impeachment by the House of Representatives and trial in the Senate for “treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors”.[1]” via Wikipedia

          The other two branches of government are to be the checks upon the Executive branch. Their parting was inevitable.

  106. barbisbest February 1, 2017 at 8:33 am #

    Way to go JANET on your telling off. Frankiti. Brilliant. That name calling is weird. I’ve told some off here but never used name calling. Unfortunately you’re right about Tillerson. As JHK wrote the bamboozlement of the public is complete and I fear, the marriage of corporation and state is almost complete with the confirm of Tillerson. He probably will be confirmed. George Orwell take a bow.

    • Frankiti February 1, 2017 at 8:52 am #

      My first name ain’t Barbi, it’s Janet, Miss WPA if you’re nasty

    • capt spaulding February 1, 2017 at 10:10 am #

      “The definition of Fascism is the marriage of corporation and state.”–Benito Mussolini.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

        And the definition of Plutocracy would be the same. So is Fascism and Plutocracy the same then? Or do they have different dominators?

        In the dance between the Sun and the Earth, the Sun leads and dominates. Sometimes He makes her hot and sometimes cold as he spins her to and fro. Likewise among the affairs of men: under Fascism, the State is the Sun and the Corporations, the Earth. Under Plutocracy, the Corporations lead and pretend to be the Sun. But they can’t lead and leave the State spinning into abeyance.

  107. FincaInTheMountains February 1, 2017 at 9:45 am #

    But your comments are rarely germane to the discussion at hand… — Frankiti

    When about three years ago I started posting on this blog, probably most of you where taking my writings about Russia and Russian-American relationship and deep connections of the historical fate of the two Nations as the ravings of a lunatic.

    See how much changed in just three short years?

    Many things we do not understand not because our concepts are weak; but because these things do not belong to the circle of our concepts.

    Kozma Prutkov, 1848.

  108. FincaInTheMountains February 1, 2017 at 11:11 am #

    History is not only material interests, class contradictions and class struggle. This is a war of the MEANINGS, but in terms of the twentieth century, with the beginning of the era of television (TV represents, if not the end of history, than its problematization) History had mingled with Game.

    The ruling classes, which, according to Marx, are inexorably moving to their own end by the laws of materialist dialectics, realizing that, said that if the laws of history are sentencing us to a historical end, why do we not try to destroy the history? Correct it accordingly?

    Rockefellers and others openly discussed the question of whether it is possible to turn the wheel of history backwards. Incidentally, the left-handed swastika means the reversal back. As a result, there was a kind of vague, but a powerful collusion of Soviet and Western elite, that it is necessary to reverse the history.

    And all that is happening now, it is a war with the history itself. We do not exist in space, where there is only one historical dimension and where everything is subordinated to this historical law – or in Marx’s version, where there is a war of interests, or in my version, where there is a war of ideals, meanings and high ideas.

    History is no longer monopolist. There is also Her Majesty GAME that wants to whack the history completely. And there are deep philosophical reasons and very subtle philosophical theories (Hegel, among others), according to which it is possible to do this.

  109. messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 11:15 am #

    Elrond said, “Thomas Aquinas reasoned that the saved in Heaven know perfectly the sufferings of the damned and take pleasure in it.” 

    Thomas Aquinas was wrong.


    • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 11:46 am #

      I’ll take your word for it. I actually care little for theological reasoning; I really just wanted to tee up a nice, juicy


      for my momentary amusement. Mission accomplished!

      • JimInFlorida February 1, 2017 at 1:07 pm #

        C’mon E.H. Even dannyboy wouldn’t stoop to that.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 2:48 pm #

          I’ve defeated him that badly. It’s not necessarily that I’m smarter or a better debater, just that I’m arguing for the Truth and that makes winning easy and natural.

        • malthuss February 1, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

          Let him play.

        • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 4:24 pm #

          The high road gets one nowhere on this blog. Neither does the low road. Entertainment value is really all that’s left.

      • messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

        Don’t take my word for anything. I’ve noticed you are not allergic to theological reasoning when you can use a portion [ smorgasbord religion ] of it to disparage others.

        • Elrond Hubbard February 1, 2017 at 4:27 pm #

          Some people are worth disparaging.

          • messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 7:50 pm #

            So, some people are okay to not respect [ weeds, unequal, unworthy ] and people like yourself are acceptable. Sounds like the line – drawing game to me.

  110. malthuss February 1, 2017 at 11:38 am #


    The BDI reached an all time low last year. So, Janet, define ‘GREAT.’

  111. FincaInTheMountains February 1, 2017 at 11:41 am #

    At Home among Strangers, Stranger at Home – today is the birthday of Boris Yeltsin

    When Clintons, in early 2001, ordered the arrest in New York airport of Pavel Borodin, who at the invitation of George W. Bush arrived at his inauguration, in fact were striking back at President Yeltsin and his family, in particular his daughter Tatiana Yeltsin.


    At that time Yeltsin had recently resigned as president, but not before he reminded President Clinton and his charming wife from Beijing that Russia has nuclear triad.

    And if the elections in 2000 were won by Albert Gore, then Yeltsin would stand before a choice: either use nuclear weapons or give up his daughter for incarceration in a Swiss prison.

    I understand that it was she, who after a massive heart attack suffered by Boris Yeltsin, played a major role in the defeat of Syskovets plot and in fact ruled Russia. And looking for a successor to Yeltsin, who will not betray neither her father nor Russia.

  112. messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

    “When did negros become PERSONS? Because you gotta be a PERSON in order to be a CITIZEN.”

    The 14th Amendment did it. Be careful what you wish for; being a “person” in the legal sense makes you subject to their rules.


    • thwack February 1, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

      “The 14th Amendment did it. Be careful what you wish for; being a “person” in the legal sense makes you subject to their rules” — pissdruid


      and slavery didn’t?

      You need to be more careful with that cowbell and mistletoe; that shit done made your logic null and void.


      • messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 7:44 pm #

        Hey – I ‘m just pointing at your chains, I didn’t put them on you.

        You need to research the legal definition of “person”. It is not what you think. What I am trying to tell you is not a put down. Many of the words we use in normal conversation are interpreted [ defined ] very differently from what normal folks suspect.

        They freed millions of [ chattel ] slaves and enslaved [ economic ] all of us.


    • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 2:53 pm #

      Can you imagine the state of America if tens of millions of Negro babies hadn’t been aborted? We need to be in favor of it for them and against it for us. This is the Dark Wisdom of Hell. Your “goodness” will be the death of us. But Christ said he came to give us life more abundantly. See the contradiction? And did he not say to be as wise as serpents?

      • malthuss February 1, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

        So now you are for abortion.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

          Answer my question first: What would America look like with tens of millions more Blacks? An utter disaster of course. I’m against abortion, but I’m for Life too, not mere “life”. Death is part of Life’s play, right?

          Whites have the right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. All those imply removing the Negro from our presence even as Lincoln and Jefferson and so many others said. We’re in a state of War. What did Krishna say to Arjuna about that?

          • malthuss February 2, 2017 at 12:53 am #


            I m not much for the Gita, Old Testament, Kabbala.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 2, 2017 at 2:00 am #

            Oh, I thought you loved the Hindu Tradition. What are you spiritual roots then?

      • thwack February 1, 2017 at 3:32 pm #

        Hey Janos, you like guns?

        You could probably join the pro Russian rebels in Ukraine and do some actual damage against “the system”; instead of sitting in your moms basement covered in Cheeto dust and ass crack dander, ranting and raving about blaks, muslims and gays…

        Of course you might hafta kill people that are somewhatkindasortamaybe white?

        But Im confident you can come up with some language to justify it.

        Let me know if you need a reference; cause I gotchoo man, I gotchoo.


        • Janos Skorenzy February 1, 2017 at 3:47 pm #

          The gun shoots death and the penis shoots life – as Zardoz said. Both life and death equal parts of Life. I seek the Life that doth abide in Light, yea the Life that abides in Light.

          Visualize the path the Sun lays down in the Sea. Follow that and it will take you to Him.

  113. FincaInTheMountains February 1, 2017 at 12:16 pm #

    What exactly opponents of Trump want? Reparations and blood!


    “Peacefully” protesting lady (teacher by profession by the way) says:

    White people, give your fucking money, your fucking house, your fucking property, we need it fucking all. Fuck white supremacy, fuck the U.S. empire, fuck your imperialist ass lives. That shit gotta go…

    And we need to start killing people. First off, we need to start killing the White House. The White House must die. The White House, your fucking White House, your fucking Presidents, they must go! Fuck the White House”

    • capt spaulding February 1, 2017 at 2:07 pm #

      Ahh. Hope to see you on the barricades.

  114. thwack February 1, 2017 at 2:08 pm #

    About 900 U.S. State Department officials signed an internal dissent memo protesting a travel ban by U.S. President Donald Trump on refugees and travelers from seven Muslim-majority countries, a source familiar with the document said on Tuesday, in a rebellion against the new president’s policies.



    How many air traffic controllers did Reagan fire back in 81?

    • Frankiti February 1, 2017 at 2:17 pm #

      Like I said, the majority are Ivy League, or the wannabes (Colgate, Union, Bucknell, etc) trust funders that got a cushy tooth cutting job with State. The chosen path for American aristocracy that want to dabble in politics and foreign affairs.
      Their loss is our gain.

      • malthuss February 1, 2017 at 6:47 pm #

        If White, live in Virginia.
        If Black, Prince George County is the place to ‘keep it real’ and take to the ‘congo highway’ in a beemer.

  115. janet February 1, 2017 at 3:09 pm #

    The BDI recovered through 2016 thanks to increased demand to ship raw materials into China. Last year the BDI staged a significant recovery. The BDI is around 800 points today, well above its record low of 290 points.

    Malthuss, 800 is bigger than the low of 290. And that is how I define “Great!”

  116. janet February 1, 2017 at 3:18 pm #

    “How many air traffic controllers did Reagan fire back in 81?” –thwack

    Reagan started out bad and got steadily worse. The presidency of Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any U.S. president. I wouldn’t be holding Reagan up as a shining example. Dude was corrupt.

    • routersurfer February 1, 2017 at 6:11 pm #

      Truth. But he gave great script. Not my hero.

    • JimInFlorida February 2, 2017 at 1:40 pm #

      This is one of the rare times that I agree with you but, not for the same reasons.

      Reagan fired the air traffic controllers to satisfy the anti-Labor neocon doctrine. PATCO was wrecked to put American Labor on notice that the Plantation was coming back. Reagan was just a front man for the Bush Crime Syndicate and his Jewish handlers who leveraged him to push their perverse neocon politics and neoliberal economic agenda.

      Without Labor Rights and Economic Rights, NONE of the Civil Rights and “social justice” causes will amount to anything. Civil Rights is just a battering ram against the legitimate White social order and nothing good is gained. Labor Rights and Economic Rights bring benefits to all and without social friction.

      Only the Top 1% (mostly Jews) hate Labor and Economic Rights because if frustrates their social engineering agenda (Kalergi Plan, Cloward and Piven, Hart-Celler, etc.).

  117. ozone February 1, 2017 at 5:03 pm #

    Exclusive communique for K-dog:
    Please advise when the multiple “Jan”s can no longer be afforded by the ruling agencies. You know where to find me. Thanks in advance, and yours in clarity and understanding,
    — A disinterested party who is interested in the continuation of earthbound life

  118. volodya February 1, 2017 at 5:12 pm #

    Mr Ozone, why shit, said agencies will just get the Fed sock puppet to issue forth more QE. After all, said agencies work night and day to protect the fortunes of the ruling classes. And the Fed is owned by said ruling classes. Oops this was in response to an exclusive communique. Sorry…

    • ozone February 1, 2017 at 5:41 pm #

      No worries; *you* can let me know when aforesaid “agencies” are finally driven out of Afghanistan (from whence their burgeoning drug-fueled slushfunds come).
      — just me

  119. routersurfer February 1, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

    We need a sane policy. We would not have had a nuke ready in time for WWII without those damn people from overseas. Einstein comes to mind. If any country has a new Einstein please President Trump let him in. A few artists would be fine also. Pick the cream of the crop. We have a ton of bankers to pick the crops while in prison labor camps.

    • JimInFlorida February 2, 2017 at 1:47 pm #

      Thanks to Hart-Celler and follow-on immigration Acts, we are taking in tons of human waste to get maybe that one pearl. The cost-benefit is not acceptable.

      We did far better by controlling immigration at the source (before 1965) and nobody can argue otherwise. The United States SHOULD exist for the ones already here! If we allow anybody in, it MUST be at OUR PLEASURE.

      What we’ve suffered for the past 50 years is illegitimate by reason of malevolent intent by Jews WHO HAVE MADE NO SECRET of their anti-White and anti-Christian agenda. President Trump is dealing with it in a hamfisted manner but, at least he is doing something about it!

  120. messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 7:23 pm #

    “How many air traffic controllers did Reagan fire back in 81?” –thwack

    Aug. 3, 1981 – 11,000 out of about 15,000. Does anyone remember why?

    • thwack February 1, 2017 at 7:52 pm #

      they were black and Latino?

      • messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 7:59 pm #

        They were people who chose not to keep their oath. I can’t give you any percentages.

        • thwack February 1, 2017 at 9:12 pm #

          Bless your hearts…

          you guys take me so seriously

          Don’t you know any real black people?


          Tonight Im serving gooseberry fool, and if you think they’re any gooseberries in it?

          You’re the fool.

          Speaking of which, where is Janos?

          I want you guys to leave him alone.

          And don’t touch my dog either.

          • malthuss February 2, 2017 at 12:52 am #


            If Black, Prince George County is the place to ‘keep it real’ and take to the ‘congo highway’ in a beemer.

        • JimInFlorida February 2, 2017 at 1:56 pm #

          Have to disagree with you regarding the air traffic controllers.
          Failure to uphold their oath is the fake story to justify the opening shots of war against American Labor.

          The air traffic controllers were protesting the gross safety violations that came about from Jimmy Carter’s hamfisted deregulation of the airline industry. The traffic controllers were working excessive hours and having to manage traffic with equipment that wasn’t being maintained properly. PATCO repeatedly sent reports and requests to the Feds and got nothing.

          Fatigue, deferred maintenance, and unsafe work practices on the ground are reasons enough to strike if nothing else would get the Fed’s attention.

          • messianicdruid February 2, 2017 at 10:18 pm #

            What ever happened to Robert Poli?

      • elysianfield February 1, 2017 at 8:15 pm #

        “they were black and Latino?”

        Nooo, Mostly white…just another example of cultural appropriation of air traffic control procedure.

        • thwack February 1, 2017 at 10:01 pm #

          Nooo, Mostly white…just another example of cultural appropriation of air traffic control procedure.



          just another example of ritz CRACKERS that suffer from poor reading comprehension;

          Didn’t you see that question mark?


          I hope you guys don’t drive like you read?

          • messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 10:58 pm #

            “I hope you guys don’t drive like you read?”

            I hope you don’t drive like you punctuate.

            Example of an actual question; “Q, where are you?”

          • elysianfield February 2, 2017 at 10:07 am #

            Leave Thwack alone…his befuddlement is the result of 200 years of slavery…and shit.

            Question proffered,
            Answer offered.

  121. Frankiti February 1, 2017 at 8:15 pm #

    Rex confirmed!

    Thank you CFN readers for calling your elected leaders and urging their support.

    It’s mornin’ in ‘murica… a glorious orange sunrise

  122. volodya February 1, 2017 at 9:07 pm #

    Mr Ozone, you raised a good point. The amount of money to be made in the drug trade is immense. I have a sneaking suspicion that the quantity of illicit drugs crossing the border wouldn’t happen without official behind the scenes cooperation ie a bunch of them on the take. And just think of all the cops, judges, lawyers, social workers that would be out of work without dealers, buyers and addicts. A vast food chain exists around the business. And I’ve got to imagine that a few Afghan warlords are ok with it given the fortunes they’re acquiring. This is a long way of agreeing that it’s a good bet that said agencies are embedded in Afghanistan for a healthy share of the moolah.

  123. tucsonspur February 1, 2017 at 10:21 pm #

    Protesters at UC Berkeley shut down free speech again by forcing Milo Yiannopoulos(?) to flee the Violence.

    Once one of the bastions of civil rights, it no longer allows free speech. The usual signs and banners were in evidence. One said “this is war”.

    On top of it all, the speaker’s supporters had to pay for the extra security!

    Institute of fire and burning!

  124. FincaInTheMountains February 1, 2017 at 10:27 pm #

    Al-Qaeda Fighters in Yemen were tipped off of the coming raid

    Al-Qaeda Fighters in Yemen Seemed Ready for SEAL Raid

    The killing of Osama bin Laden meant the most radical change in US foreign policy from the time of arrival to power of Truman and the beginning of the real, rather than a toy war of the United States with those who helped them defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan.

    And the significance of this event for the internal policy of the USA is best seen from the famous photograph, which depicted all the top leaders of the US, watching the monitor with live coverage of the US Marine Seals killing Osama bin Laden from cameras installed on the head.

    And in this picture you could clearly see those who prepared this action, and those who were invited to watch the event in the situation room at the very last minute.


  125. tucsonspur February 1, 2017 at 10:39 pm #

    Trump may roll into Mexico! Let’s take over the fucking cesspool, kill all the druggies, clean it up and expand our borders. Then we won’t have to build a wall, but we’ll make Mexico pay for it anyway.

    • messianicdruid February 1, 2017 at 11:00 pm #

      I always wondered why we stopped at 50.

      • tucsonspur February 1, 2017 at 11:31 pm #

        Roughly speaking, I guess it could be either way. 30 or 50?

      • Janos Skorenzy February 2, 2017 at 2:15 am #

        Some of the Confederates had plans to spread into the Caribbean and/or Central America. Most people were wise enough not to want to rule over a vast, alien population. Being human and weak, we would have ended up mixing with them and corrupting our genotype. The upper classes of Latin America have maintained their genotype, strengthened by new blood from Europe. Otherwise, there would be no advanced infrastructure there at all.

        • malthuss February 2, 2017 at 11:01 am #

          Are you aware of how much Dominican Republic fights to keep
          Haitians out of their land?
          Are you aware of the DNA differences in the 2 peoples?
          [95% Afro, Haitians, 40% Afro, Dominicans].

          Also the Dominicans White DNA is form female ‘White Slaves’–if I recall.

          Yes? No?

          • Janos Skorenzy February 2, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

            Thank you for these dubia questions.

            1. Yes, a bit
            2. Yes, but I didn’t know that percentages – more different than I thought. No doubt the rulers are the lightest. Perhaps some from the French who fled the Black pogrom?
            3. No, didn’t know that.

    • janet February 1, 2017 at 11:23 pm #

      “Trump may roll into Mexico! Let’s take over the fucking cesspool…” –tucsonspur

      While 45’s at it, has he said we should take Canada, too? Canada has more natural resources than Mexico… resources the USA needs.

      Canada’s large Muslim population may be trickling down into the USA… or gushing like a golden shower. By taking over Canada no wall on the northern border would be needed. If anyone could militarily invade and take over Canada, it would be 45. /s

      Where is Melania? Twelve days without being seen… hmmm…

      • tucsonspur February 1, 2017 at 11:54 pm #

        What’s with the golden showers? Have you been in one that gushed? Or was it just a trickle? What’s with this stuff?

        In all seriousness, we’ll replace Trudeau and put in our own people. The Muzzies will mysteriously disappear overtime.

        Then life really gets good. Summer in Canada, winter in Cabo.

        • janet February 2, 2017 at 12:04 am #

          Tucsonspur, 45 orchestrated a Russian-prostitute pee party in an expensive Moscow hotel (and the Russians have it on tape, leverage of their puppet).

          45, who said Hillary Clinton “got schlonged” after taking a bathroom break during a debate: “I know where she went,” he said, face screwed with distaste. “It’s disgusting! I don’t want to talk about it. No, it’s too disgusting. Don’t say it, it’s disgusting!”

          Donald Trump, a man who doth protest quite a bit about corporeal disgust. Donald Trump. Loves. Pee.

          • tucsonspur February 2, 2017 at 1:16 am #

            You’ve seen the tape? And I thought Trump was referring to her taking a dump and accidentally fouling herself, proving to her aides once and for all, that her shit really wasn’t ice cream.

          • elysianfield February 2, 2017 at 10:16 am #

            “corporeal disgust”

            Nice phrase…see with what a little effort can be wrought?

        • Elrond Hubbard February 2, 2017 at 9:47 am #

          tucsonspur: “In all seriousness, we’ll replace Trudeau and put in our own people. The Muzzies will mysteriously disappear overtime.”

          Please don’t be an asshole.

          • tucsonspur February 2, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

            I try not to take myself too seriously, and neither should you on things that are said in a lighthearted and admittedly frivolous way.

            So, speaking of assholes, get your head out of yours, and start working to enhance the limited perception that you appear to have.

    • malthuss February 2, 2017 at 12:49 am #


      • janet February 2, 2017 at 1:09 am #


        Donald Trump. Loves. Pee.

        Donald Trump. Loves. Mexico.

        Donald Trump. Loves. Leaks.

        A leaked report says Trump flexed his muscles in a phone conversation with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

        Why stop at taking over the western hemisphere? Why not take over Australia, too?

        • malthuss February 2, 2017 at 11:18 am #

          Why not take over Australia, too?

          Mexican Australians? Like the Mexican Americans?

  126. janet February 2, 2017 at 12:13 am #

    “In all seriousness, we’ll replace Trudeau and put in our own people.” –tucsonspur

    Why stop at taking over Mexico and Canada? Shouldn’t we take over the entire western hemisphere, from the north pole to the south pole? You could call it Trump’s colonial golden shower or “Lebensraum” or “Manifest Destiny”

    • tucsonspur February 2, 2017 at 1:02 am #

      Canada and Mexico are enough. We’re not a greedy people. We’ll build the wall at Guatemala.

      And who’ll pay for the wall? Right, Mexico!

      We won’t mind polar bears entering from the Northwest Territories.

      • janet February 2, 2017 at 1:15 am #

        “Canada and Mexico are enough. We’re not a greedy people. We’ll build the wall at Guatemala. … We won’t mind polar bears entering from the Northwest Territories.” –tucsonspur

        Good! The Muslim population of Guatemala is approximately 1,200 and we have to stop them from getting into the USA.

        But you are putting our white Christian nation in danger by not building a wall on the northern border. There are 1,053,945 Muslims in Canada. Islam is the second largest religion in Canada.

        It is treasonous of you to ignore the greater threat and refuse to build a wall all along the northern border. Make it 40′ high of concrete with rebar or you are a traitor and muzzie lover.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 2, 2017 at 2:07 am #

        The Leader is going to nix an absolutely bizarre deal with Australia to take some of their illegal alien Muslims in exchange for some of our illegals from Central America. The big question: Why? Trump described it as a plot to bring in the next Boston Marathon Bomber.


        • Frankiti February 2, 2017 at 5:35 am #

          Wrong, the exchange is four 3 Rwandans that were extradited to US as suspects in the murder of 2 oregonians. The criminal prosecution failed, and Rwanda won’t take them back.

          Australia will take them… in exchange

  127. janet February 2, 2017 at 1:20 am #

    Russian Spy Linked to Trump’s Dirty ‘Golden Showers’ Dossier Found Dead in Moscow

    Bodies are piling up. Anybody who knows about Trump’s hiring of prostitutes and Trump’s golden showers is being arrested or murdered.

    Oleg Erovinkin acted as a ‘go-between’ for Russian Presdident Vladimir Putin and Mr Sechin who is now head of the state-owned oil company Rosneft. He was found dead in the back of his car in Moscow, as a result of foul play.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 2, 2017 at 2:09 am #

      It’s dangerous to tell lies like that in Russia, evidently. If you ever travel to Russia, don’t act like that and you should be alright.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 2, 2017 at 6:08 am #

      Since the time I was serving my draft in the Soviet military, I remember the joke popular among soldiers:

      — How do you protect yourself in case of a nuclear blast nearby?

      Among many other things the soldier must do is:

      — Turn your personal weapon as far away from your body as you can
      — And why is that?
      — So that the melted steel from your machine gun won’t drip on your shoes and ruin them

  128. janet February 2, 2017 at 1:38 am #

    Milo Yiannopoulos event at UC Berkeley canceled after protests

    The university blamed “150 masked [Trump-paid] agitators” for the violence, saying they had come from off-campus to disturb an otherwise peaceful protest.

    Black-clad alt-right members wearing masks threw commercial grade fireworks and rocks at police in their false flag operation. Some even hurled Molotov cocktails that ignited fires. The Steve Bannon brown shirts also smashed windows of the student union center on the Berkeley campus where the Breitbart editor’s event was to be held.

    Trump’s Kristallnacht attempt will fail.

    Two-thirds of Trump’ wives were immigrants, proving once again we need immigrants to do jobs Americans will not do.

  129. janet February 2, 2017 at 1:41 am #

    Washington — The Trump administration is easing restrictions on legal permanent residents who were initially affected by the President’s executive order largely banning entry to the US by citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries.

    After nearly a week of claiming it wouldn’t change the executive order, the administration is retreating on how the order affects so-called green card holders. The seven countries affected are Iran, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Libya, Sudan and Yemen.

    Airlines were briefed on some of the changes beginning on Wednesday.

    • janet February 2, 2017 at 2:09 am #

      Trump drew a red line with his executive order. So much for 45 and red lines. Now he is backing down.

      Thank you Mr. Trump! … for allowing those from the seven Muslim-majority countries into the USA.

  130. FincaInTheMountains February 2, 2017 at 4:40 am #

    Draft Of Trump ‘Religious Freedom’ Executive Order Signals Major Win For Conservative Christians

    It would protect the tax-exempt status of any religious organization or privately held company that “believes, speaks, or acts (or declines to act) in accordance with the belief that marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, sexual relations are properly reserved for such a marriage, male and female and their equivalents refer to an individual’s immutable biological sex as objectively determined by anatomy, physiology, or genetics at or before birth, and that human life begins at conception and merits protection at all stages of life.”


    The Church marriage of homosexuals is particularly important, all the rest, even the adoption of children, in comparison with it – playing in the sandbox! The resistance to all other freedoms is only a preparation for this truly decisive battle.

    And the Church will definitely win it, because the wedding of man and woman, the bride and groom, symbolizes the relationship between Christ and his Church, God and humanity, and therefore of God and all Creation.

    And you understand what symbolizes the Church “marriage” of two homosexuals.

  131. FincaInTheMountains February 2, 2017 at 5:01 am #

    Ever wondered how representatives of the LGBT community with fanatical tenacity believe in the power of rites. Or may be those who are behind them and pull the strings believe very strongly in virtue of the rites.

    Rite of “a gay parade.” This rite is opposite in its inner essence to Procession under the Cross.
    The aim of the Procession under the Cross is to change the spiritual atmosphere of a place from minus to plus, to create an invisible spiritual barrier that protects all persons in the inside from the external threat. Under the external threat is understood mainly protection against Otherworldly spiritual beings – demons.

    The purpose of the ceremony “a gay parade” is completely opposite: it acts as a can opener to crack the spiritual protective cover and open access to the forces of evil.

    Rite of “The conclusion of the official marriage between gays.” The goal is the destruction of normal family relations. Marriage between man and woman in Christian society is, above all, a spiritual union. Of the two halves creates a whole – the family, which is considered incomplete if there are no children.

    Rite of “Adoption of children by a gay couple.” This rite creates a surrogate family: parents (parent ?1 and ?2), a child or more. It appears as an ordinary family, but in fact – a parody of the family. Family value drops to the lowest level. The meaning of the spiritual union of the two halves is completely destroyed.

    But to complete the destruction of the human spirit fully, it is necessary to carry out another very important rite …

    Rite of Church “Gay Wedding”. In Christianity, the wedding ceremony has a special meaning. A man and a woman before God vow of mutual love and loyalty for life. Therefore, the meaning of the ritual “Gay Wedding” is clear – this desacralization of religious rites, and the destruction of the Church as a spiritual institution. In fact, the church that conducted such ritual within its walls ceases to be a Church.

    This is the goal.

  132. KesaAnna February 2, 2017 at 7:02 am #

    “I support Western civilization, but I am also aware that it has plenty to be ashamed of: enslavement of African Americans, ”

    Most Caucasians, heck, any immigrant group you care to examine, came to North America , or were driven to North America, for essentially the same reasons as Africans ; So that this or that ruling class could profit off of rock bottom cheap labor.
    That ” whites” and others have subsequently re-written history into a fairytale where they appear special and heroic is neither here nor there.

    And, by the way, it is STILL an economy largely underwritten or propped up by slave labor.
    It’s a safe bet all of those shirts from El Salvador and toaster ovens from China are not being manufactured by folks making 15 dollars an hour, with three weeks paid vacation, and pensions to look forward to.
    And as has already ben referred to in this comment section, one reason the American prison population is the largest on earth almost certainly has to do with the profits from prison labor / the profits incidental to a parasitical bureaucracy devoted to the task of pointlessly torturing people.

    “genocide of American Indians, ”

    300 years after Columbus made landfall in America , the best weapon the Europeans had was still the smoothbore flintlock ; really not much better than a spear that can go ” bang ! ”
    As much as people might love their militarism, it wasn’t armies or fancy weaponry that subdued the Indians.

    We don’t know exactly how many Indians were killed by smallpox, syphilis, and other recently introduced diseases, because they didn’t keep records, but what we do know clearly suggests it was as bad, or worse, than the famous Black Death of the old world.
    It was catastrophic — and nobodies fault.

    Then there was the unavoidable fact that hunter -gatherer and nomadic societies were as good as done for anyway when they started accepting bags of coffee and cast iron pots.

    “colonization and theft of resources of other peoples mainly in Africa, Mid East, India, ”

    For the record , I think imperialism is basically a dead end process for those who engage in it.
    That said, the imperialists built roads, bridges, railroads , and a ton of other infrastructure in these places that very likely they still would not have even now if not for the imperialists.
    Namibia ( former German Southwest Africa ) is still basically functioning on infrastructure built 100 years ago by some crack-brained Germans.
    Crack-brained , because Namibia is such a barren and poor place it hardly warrants such investment, then, or now.
    Afghanistan, which was never successfully colonized, still has less than ten miles of rail.

    ” religious wars ”

    *sigh* WHERE do people get this crap? From which comic book?

    WHAT religious wars ?

    Do you refer to the crusades ? That any supposedly secular type, or religious type, would get their panties in a twist over the crusades is mystifying.
    Most of the crusades were fiascos.
    As for the ones that were in any way , uh, “successful ” ;

    – They destroyed the Christian bulwark that was the Byzantine Empire. If you are a supposedly a secular type, a non-Christian religious type, or a might-as-well-be-secular Protestant , why should that bother you or concern you ??

    – The Christian Kingdoms of Jerusalem and Antioch barely lasted 100 years, and that was a long time ago .
    The most men I ever recall them putting into the field was 10,000 , at Hattin — and they got stomped.
    Here again the big deal is……..what?

    Maybe you are referring to the 30 years war? Catholic Princes leading Protestant armies against Catholic states and allied to other Protestant states .
    Calling the 30 years war a religious war would make a cat laugh.

    So, again, what are these religious wars referred to?

    But, ok, lets accept that description for a moment , and ask again what your gripe is ?
    A lot of religious people got killed, lost their fortunes , were otherwise ruined, and your heart bleeds for these religious people?
    The same people you otherwise dismiss out of hand and ridicule?

    Ok, maybe not. So what about the non-religious people who were killed ? It was 1603. You cannot guess their number or name them.
    And even if for the sake of argument such non-religious people existed in 1603 , you would scarcely recognize them as your own.
    In 1603 you had secularists who believed in Alchemy and Astrology , and you had atheists who thought faireys and dragons were real.

    ” and persecutions during the Inquisition, ”

    You are aware that the Spanish and Portuguese Inquisitions were orchestrated by their respective SECULAR STATES right??

    Ok, maybe the suppression of the Cathars ? Sorry, the only cases we have of the lives of Cathars being spared was at the hands of Church Inquisitors.
    SECULAR officials spared NONE, slaughtered ALL.

    ” the Holocaust, ”

    See , you don’t need a religious motive. Half-baked economic , social, and population control ideas, which, to use JHK’s phrase, ” don’t really pencil in ” are quite sufficient. ^-^

    • malthuss February 2, 2017 at 11:24 am #

      You mystify me.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 2, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

      Thanks for the History Lesson – most of it accurate too. The Crusaders did get around to killing a lot of Muslims at times. At its best (you brought up its worst), it can be considered a Counter-Attack against that most predatory religion, Islam.

      And some real fighting was required against the Indians – many Whites died in the Conquest of America.

      But my main point is existential: you write as an omniscient, disembodied narrator; no pov except moral outrage – almost as if you weren’t a person with needs, a person who is part of a Race and Culture, a White person in other words.

      Stop it. It’s disingenuous. Or are you still subconsciously accepting the Left’s demonization of us? Or do you deny Jefferson’s “Survival is the first morality”. After all, all moral problems belong to people who exist. People, either individuals or the a collective, who don’t exist don’t have any problems, moral or otherwise.

  133. FincaInTheMountains February 2, 2017 at 8:56 am #

    Trump’s White House adds “telecommute” seats for remote journalists via Skype

    ‘Skype seats’ to be added to White House press briefings

    White House press secretary Sean Spicer said at his first press briefing Monday that future briefings will include four “Skype seats” for reporters who are outside of the Washington, D.C., area.


    Very nice touch! Good way to break the “News Monopoly” from Mainstream Media.

    What’s next? Trump’s very own 24-hours Trump News Channel?

  134. bibliomaniac February 2, 2017 at 10:01 am #

    “Billionaires arrive in Davos on private jets to ‘solve’ inequality while starving children eat ashes in Madagascar.”

    Buzzfeed, Jan 30, 2017

    The drought in Madagascar, a result of human-caused climate change has caused starving children to spend their days searching for cactus leaves. “Sometimes they take the chalky rocks and break them up for soup, and sometimes they eat ashes from cooking fires.”

    But “I’m not a big believer in man-made climate change, .. nobody knows for sure,’ said Donald Trump.

    Enjoy your lunch.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 2, 2017 at 10:28 am #

      The biggest danger for Western Elites in little warming (man-made or not?) is in fact that in 3-5 years the shortest, cheapest trade route from Asia to Europe will be Northern Sea Route in Arctic Ocean, 100% under Russian control.

    • Frankiti February 2, 2017 at 10:38 am #

      Everything changes, and you, Gore, and Tony Blair’s scuttled carbon exchange companies are not going to stop it.

      • bibliomaniac February 2, 2017 at 11:54 am #

        Unfortunately not. Prepare for extinction.

        • Frankiti February 2, 2017 at 6:09 pm #


          “Why, then, has mankind not long ago gone extinct during great epidemics of madness? Why do only a fairly minor number of individuals perish because they fail to endure the strain of living – because cognition gives them more than they can carry?

          Cultural history, as well as observation of ourselves and others, allow the following answer: Most people learn to save themselves by artificially limiting the content of consciousness.’

          You’re asleep and in a dream

  135. FincaInTheMountains February 2, 2017 at 10:20 am #

    World War against entrenched Deep State

    Putin sacked 16 generals of MOE (Equivalent of American DHS), the Ministry of Interior and the Investigative Committee

    Trump Fires Acting Attorney General

  136. FincaInTheMountains February 2, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

    Unfortunately not. Prepare for extinction. == bibliomaniac


    A pregnant woman in white suburban neighborhood wakes up her husband every night for a month, screaming and then complains that she had a dream in which she gave birth to a negro with two heads.

    The poor husband is exhausted to the limit, and now comes the time of birth, the husband running from corner to corner in the hospital, and the nurse finally comes out with a strange expression on her face and says:

    – Congratulations you have a son!
    – Negro?
    – Negro!
    – With two heads?
    – No one.
    – Oh …. Thank God!

    In this regard, once again I want to draw your attention that conspiracy theory is usually not the result of imagination gone wild, but a carefully planned psychological operation to obtain desired ideological effect ala in the above anecdote.

    • bibliomaniac February 2, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

      Prepare for extinction. You can laugh on the way down.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 2, 2017 at 3:06 pm #

        Bibi, there is no world without us. The animals and plants were created for us. As were the minerals, the rocks and mountains. Your kind are going extinct. You need but change – adapt – and live in this new age, this Age of Trump.

        • Frankiti February 2, 2017 at 6:11 pm #

          You’re not separate from the animals, plants, rocks, and mountains.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 2, 2017 at 7:45 pm #

            They are part of me. Indeed my body and lower mind are comprised of these. But I also beyond them in my highest aspects. If we weren’t, we wouldn’t even be able to have this conversation or even ask the question.

          • Frankiti February 2, 2017 at 7:55 pm #

            the higher faculties are not man’s, they are the earth’s, born from the earth, birthed by the earth, from this planet, this universe. Your eyes are not their own, as your brain is not it’s own, they belong to something bigger, and you bigger yet.

          • ozone February 2, 2017 at 8:36 pm #

            The Dominionist’s credo and attitude ensure that they understand (and expound) exactly *nothing*. This is their most bloated conceit and most glaring source of dissonance. — Their most risible weakness as well, as it all stems from a shocking disrespect (perhaps even a loathing) for their miraculous origins.

        • thwack February 2, 2017 at 6:37 pm #

          “The animals and plants were created for us. As were the minerals, the rocks and mountains.”


          What about the blacks?

          were they created for you too?