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It’s told that Richard Nixon, during the endgame weeks of Watergate, wandered the west wing hallways in the wee hours, fueled on scotch whiskey, conversing with portraits of notable Americans, including many of his predecessors. “Whaddaya say, Millard? Should I stay or should I go?” He was a trapped animal, after a long, grueling, hunt, and he knew the hounds were closing in. Perhaps he took some consolation in hearing that old Abe Lincoln was even more depressed in the final, victorious days of the civil war than he, Nixon, was at the sheer cruelty of history. In the end, he marshaled the remaining shreds of his dignity, and mounted the helicopter to — his pursuers hoped — an oblivion more fathomless than the mystery of the grave.
And now here is Mr. Nixon’s latest successor, the Golden Golem of Greatness, Donald J. Trump, haunting those hallways with the political equivalent of a sucking chest wound, Big Mac in one hand, Big Gulp in the other, wondering who all the people in those oil paintings are… and what are they looking at, anyway, as he storms back to his lonely private quarters for a few last tweets of anguish.
It’s beginning to look like the last round-up at the OK corral for this somewhat accidental president, product of a decrepitating polity that otherwise grudges up a leadership of fretful, craven, corporate catamites and call-girls. Michael Wolff’s juicy book, “Fire and Fury,” would be a career-ender for any self-respecting politician, but the narcissism of Trump is altogether a different mental state. Speaking of which, it sounds like some of the amateur psychologists in congress are taking a deep Talmudic dive into the 25th amendment, to see if they can pound the square peg of Trump’s head through that particular round hole in the constitution.
Is he fit for office? This question hangs in the air of the DC swamp like a necrotic odor that can’t be seen while it can’t be ignored. In a way, the very legitimacy of the republic comes into question — if Trump is the best we can do, maybe the system itself isn’t what it was cracked up to be. And then why would we think that removing him from office would make things better? How’s that for an existential quandary?
We’re informed in The New York Times today that “Everyone in Trumpworld Knows He’s an Idiot,” though “moron” (Rex Tillerson) and “dope” (General H.R. McMaster) figure in there as well. Imagine all the energy it must take for everyone in, say, the cabinet room to pretend that the chief executive belongs in his chair at the center. It reminds me of that old poker game, “Indian,” where each player holds a hole card pressed outward from his forehead for all to see but him.
Ill winds are blowing and dire forces are converging. Do you think that it’s a wonderful thing that the Dow Jones Industrial Average just bashed through the 25,000 gate? The President obviously thinks so. And, of course, he’s egged on by all the fawning economic viziers selling stories about a booming economy of waiters, bartenders, and espresso jockeys. But, I tell you as sure as there is a yesterday, today, and tomorrow, those stock indexes, grand as they seem, are teetering on the brink of something awesomely sickening. And when they go over that no-bid Niagara cascade into the maelstrom, Mr. Trump’s boat will be going over the falls with them.
It’s an unappetizing spectacle to watch such a tragic arc play out. After all, these are the lives of fragile, lonely, human creatures trying hard to fathom their fate. You have to feel a little sorry for them as you would feel sorry even for a sad little peccary going down one of those quicksand holes in the Okeefenokee Swamp. Surely, many feel that these are simply evil times in which goodness and mercy are AWOL. I’m not sure exactly how this story ends, but it is beginning to look like a choice between a bang and a whimper.
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There aren’t any peccaries in the Okeefenokee Swamp, Jim.
Otherwise, keep up the good work.
(Peccaries are a southwest, and into Mexico, animal.)
There are not any because the swamp ate em.
The same may be said about Washington DC, except the pigs are the only survivors.
It’s not the peccaries that are the problem, it’s the peckerheads in DC.
LOL! Now that thar’s funny Cap’n!
Beg to differ…pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered. As to the final question….i’m afraid it will a be a big bang that will shake the so called republic to its knees.
Mixed metaphors are more fun. A stitch in time saves two in the bush.
Or a bird in the bush is better than two in the hand.
What you don’t know won’t help you.
It’s not rocket surgery.
Walter, promise me you won’t let that mixed metaphor anywhere near The Donald.
I promise and I am sorry, but I just could not help myself.
But the genius of it.
This article is JHK at his best.
fred, you’re missing the point. It’s all about the purple prose. Adjectives baby!
‘Why would we think that removing him from office would make things better? How’s that for an existential quandary?
That is an existential quandary that Trump haters are not worried about. The same Lilliputian cogitations are devoted to that issue as Trump himself devotes to wondering if Aunt Alice has the heath insurance to cover her next cancer biopsy.
Feel sorry for him? Are you kidding. He did not have to run for president you know.
The book makes it out that he ran as a lark; intending mostly to cash in on the brand recognition a semi-successful run would provide. Seems intuitively correct.
He had to run, to prove it to his family, followers and mostly to himself as his Narcissistic Ego demanded it. Just as Rayguns did almost 40 years ago.
Scratch,
Maybe Trump’s quixotic quest started as a lark, but it got deadly serious when it became one-on-one with Hillary. If his opponent had been Biden, for example, I doubt if he’d been upset over losing. (BTW, I think that Biden would have won handily.) But lose to a WOMAN, a crook like Hillary no less, would have been unthinkable to a man of The Donald’s pathological ego.
pathological ego seems a more apt description than the various flavors of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), being tossed about by folks who could not possibly know less about it; never mind having actually examined the man.
Case in point:
FEB. 14, 2017
To the Editor:
Fevered media speculation about Donald Trump’s psychological motivations and psychiatric diagnosis has recently encouraged mental health professionals to disregard the usual ethical constraints against diagnosing public figures at a distance. They have sponsored several petitions and a Feb. 14 letter to The New York Times suggesting that Mr. Trump is incapable, on psychiatric grounds, of serving as president.
Most amateur diagnosticians have mislabeled President Trump with the diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder. I wrote the criteria that define this disorder, and Mr. Trump doesn’t meet them. He may be a world-class narcissist, but this doesn’t make him mentally ill, because he does not suffer from the distress and impairment required to diagnose mental disorder.
Mr. Trump causes severe distress rather than experiencing it and has been richly rewarded, rather than punished, for his grandiosity, self-absorption and lack of empathy. It is a stigmatizing insult to the mentally ill (who are mostly well behaved and well meaning) to be lumped with Mr. Trump (who is neither).
Bad behavior is rarely a sign of mental illness, and the mentally ill behave badly only rarely. Psychiatric name-calling is a misguided way of countering Mr. Trump’s attack on democracy. He can, and should, be appropriately denounced for his ignorance, incompetence, impulsivity and pursuit of dictatorial powers.
His psychological motivations are too obvious to be interesting, and analyzing them will not halt his headlong power grab. The antidote to a dystopic Trumpean dark age is political, not psychological.
ALLEN FRANCES
Coronado, Calif.
The writer, professor emeritus of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Duke University Medical College, was chairman of the task force that wrote the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders IV (D.S.M.-IV).
And on to the prescribed Political antidote, we get the desperate deep state diatribe from the latest “fearful, craven, corporate catamite” du jour, Michael Wolff. We’ll see just where that goes. Trump is not as dumb as a lot of people think. I didn’t vote for the guy, but he is POTUS, and that is that.
Many think that HRC is the rightful POTUS , consider this:
“ON SEPTEMBER 03, 2016 AT 8:57 PM.
HUMA ABEDIN @YAHOO.COM WROTE:
SORRY FOR MY LATE REPLY, HASSAN. YES, LET ME
TELL YOU ABOUT HER. THE WOMAN IS SO ODD, SO STARVED FOR
VALIDATION, SO TORMENTED AND VAIN IT IS A CONSTANT
SURPRISE TO ME THAT ANYONE TAKES HER SERIOUSLY.
EVERYONE ON THE TEAM KNOWS HOW UNWELL SHE IS, BUT
THEY’RE MORE DETERMINED THAN EVER TO SEE HER WIN. THIS
WOMAN THAT HAS A DOZEN SEIZURES A DAY. THIS GODLESS
SHRIEKING MALCONTENT PASSED OUT IN HER MEDICAL VAN.
THIS WALKING CADAVER. SHE’S NONFUNCTIONAL. HASSAN,
NOBODY CARES. WE SOBER HER UP FOR SPEECHES AND
INDULGE THE PRESS CORPS WITH CHEAP SENTIMENT. THE FIRST
FEMALE PRESIDENT. THE LAST GLASS CEILING, ETC. THEY TRIP
OVER THEMSELVES LINING UP BEHIND HER. SURELY THEY KNOW
IT IS NOT HER THEY’RE GETTING. IT’S THE ONE IN THE CORNER,
THE QUIET HELPER, YOUR SISTER HUMA. YOU ASKED ME ONCE
HOW I DID IT. HOW DID I TAKE THE CASTLE? HASSAN, I DIDN’T
TAKE IT, THEY GAVE IT TO ME. YES, THERE WAS A COST. I WILL
ADMIT, SUBJECTING MYSELF TO AW (ANTHONY WEINER) AND WJC
(WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON) IS MORTAL TORTURE. BUT I DO IT
GLADLY, BROTHER, EVERYTHING THEY ASK OF ME, HOWEVER
SICK AND DEPRAVED. I DO IT, AND I SMILE, REJOICING AT THE
THOUGHT OF WHOSE GLORY I SERVE.”
T.S. Eliot didn’t give a “choice between a bang & a whimper”,
“This is how the world ends, not with a bang, but a whimper.”
I am betting on a bang, a big fucking bang, even if metaphorical, that will force you idiot doomers to plumb the depths of your convictions. Your traitorous blather will soon end.
What, or who the fuck does everyone think will replace DJT ?
Famous last words: Apres moi, le deluge.
Better cash out before noon Monday.
Thank you for that. The whole Western World is a madhouse. Giving over our Civilization to Muslims and other aliens is the proof of it. Eagerly. Gleefully. Trump is radiantly sane and moral compared to the Cadaverous Establishment.
Good gosh OH, is that actually real? I hope it is satire, please tell me it is fiction, please.
That Abedin “email” has been exposed as fake. Copying and pasting stuff that is false impeaches your whole post.
Winning is everything to Trump. This in itself disproves the book or proves that it is a malicious work of slander.
The sad thing, Janos, is that this tabloid garbage will probably sell like hotcakes. I, for one, won’t be reading, nor would I ever read HRC’s ghost written “What Happened.”
I wouldn’t waste my time either, regardless of my feelings towards Trump. I did hear some joker on (BBC) Radio 4 this morning asking if it was more likely to be read if it was serialised on bumper stickers.
hey, what about the peccary in the White House? The WH is situated in a Swamp. At least Trump and Bannon call it a Swamp. And, he kind of looks like a peccary, or one of those wild hogs they hunt down for raiding crops. And he and his banker buds are raiding the crops and wallets of The Base.
Peccary is a great choice. Too bad it doesn’t rhyme with Golden or Orange.
How about a peccary with a peccadillo with little hands, with a pre-disposition for cheeseburgers and telling lies. MAGA….. Make America Grope Again.
The last to sink into the mud will be his arrogant twitching pink nose. I had been feeling a little sorry for the poor little peccary. Not the cutest of animals but cute enough not to be swallowed up by quicksand.
A celebratory cake for you if it happens – just needs a bit of fine tuning:
http://www.sundaybaking.co.uk/2013/03/31/pigs-in-mud-cake-mississippi-mud-cake-recipe-with-kit-kats/
…species-wise.
It would be hilarious to see Trumps wig(and or head super imposed on one of those critters; though it would be a disservice to- the “pigshttp://www.sundaybaking.co.uk/2013/03/31/pigs-in-mud-cake-mississippi-mud-cake-recipe-with-kit-kats/
Ominous times indeed, Jim! And yet, somehow TPTB are managing to keep things together (so far at least!) with the proverbial bailing wire and duct tape.
It reminds me – on a far, far smaller scale of course – of a unit commander I served under in the USAF in my first Commander’s Staff position. The old bird was paranoid as hell, had a raging temper, and was known for making whimsical, ill-advised, seat of the pants decisions and then blaming the inevitable bad outcomes on his subordinates. Commander’s staff meetings (first thing Monday mornings at 7:00 AM sharp) were torturous, as he would go around the table and humiliate everyone in turn individually for this imagined shortcoming or that.
I learned later from his wife that one of his first assignments out of the academy had been as a General’s aide to a 4 star with the same last name (Kemp), who had been similarly psychotic, as many generals at the time were. The General ended up eventually being undone by a sexual scandal back at a time when such things were almost unheard of and losing 2 stars before retirement, while the poor bastard young Kemp had been so browbeat and demoralized that it evidently scarred him for life. Needless to say, his Command, already late and long overdue by USAF career path standards, was a disaster. To absolutely no one’s surprise he never got picked up for Colonel and retired shortly after that.
Notably, his boss (the Group Commander, Lt Col Philip Breedlove), went on to make 4 stars, becoming the USAF Vice Chief of Staff and then the Supreme Allied Commander for Europe, while Kemp’s Executive Officer (XO), Maj Noel T Jones (who deserved a Medal of Valor for the shit he had to put up with!), went on to make 3 stars, retiring as the Vice Commander for US Air Forces Europe, under Breedlove. Kemp himself has of course since fallen off the public radar altogether, but I rather imagine high blood pressure or heart disease has done him in by now.
Is Dr. Strangelove your favorite movie?
Actually, yes.
If they manage to lynch the POTUS, and it will amount to just that, he will have shown the world, if not the resident polity, exactly what this country has become. Respect for the USA hangs by a threat all over the place and our phony petro-dollar is being rapidly abandoned ASAP. We haven’t competed fairly for trade since 1945 and may have forgotten how. Others haven’t and are steadily eating our lunch without wasting a single bullet in the process. Nobody but Israel and KSA will be sorry to see us go.
I dunno. The Brexiters are counting on you 🙂
An excellent point rm, can the “faith” in the USD survive such a shit show? It could very well be the catalyst that topples the dollar’s death grip on the world.
Respect for the USA “hangs by a threat” — a lot said, with a few words.
Don Jr will avenge him, leading us to Final Victory over the Skraelings.
Mr. Trump has brought the fire and fury upon his own head. The evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia is increasing. It is really a pretty simple case of collusion, going back at least to May 2016.
1) The Russians offered help.
2) The Trump campaign accepted help.
3) The Russians gave help.
4) And the president made full use of that help.
Those details, which have already been thoroughly documented, and are not in dispute, amount to a fairly obvious case of collusion.
When the president is sworn in to testify to a congressional committee, and speaks under oath, under penalty of perjury, then his lies become prosecutable crimes. After the 2018 midterm elections I fully expect Trump will be subpoenaed to testify under oath… if the 25th amendment is not invoked before then.
I have never understood why conversating with Russia is treasonous. It breaks no laws and I can’t see why talking to a citizen of Russia is any different, from any point of view, than talking to a citizen of New Caledonia. Perhaps you can explain it to me.
It makes a lot more sense when someone is a serious candidate for chief executive. Then it depends on the timing: after the election, versus before. Once you’ve been elected, then yes, you should be making contact with the people you’ll shortly be doing business with when you take office (so long as you respect the fact that the country has only one president at a time). But doing so when you’re still no more than a contender is more questionable.
And it becomes really sketchy when a foreign power is offering help getting you elected, in exchange for favours once you get in. A quid pro quo like that, where you’re selling the country’s highest office to foreigners, is just crazy disloyal. (I don’t say ‘treasonous’ because that word has been cheapened so much. As defined in the U.S. constitution, treason means ‘levying war against the United States, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort’.)
As Bannon said, the key issue is money laundering. The allegation is that Trump has been profiting handsomely for decades by helping Russian oligarchs launder money through his real estate. Using money they siphoned out of other people’s pockets, the Russians buy buildings he owns at overinflated prices. Then later they sell them back to him cheap. Trump pockets the difference as his payment for helping them obscure the paper trail, and declares to the world, “Look at me! I’m a genius billionaire!” for this criminality.
Easy peasy, except there’s this thing called the Magnitsky Act, whereby Congress intended to punish the Russian oligarchs for human rights violations by denying them access to their bank accounts. What’s the use, say the Russians, of us stealing all this money if we can’t spend it? They retaliated in part by withdrawing permission for Americans to adopt Russian orphans, but that clearly was more of a gesture than an actual measure. Think of it from their point of view: ‘It sure would be useful if someone high up in the U.S. government would go to bat for us on this. Maybe even someone we have a pre-existing relationship with about all this. Someone golden… and golem-like…’
And that, apparently, was the purpose of the meeting that took place in June 2016 where Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort met with a Russian lawyer in Trump Tower: to discuss just such a quid pro quo. As Bannon further observed, this was a stupid place to meet, and even stupider was the fact that Trump’s family campaign team had no lawyers of their own present. From a legal point of view, it hardly matters if nothing came of it (which it seems nothing did). Just the fact that you did it makes you look guilty as shit. With stakes as high as the sale of the highest office in the land to foreign interests, and all the attention that brings, you don’t take dumb chances like this: you bring a lawyer with you, and you go to the FBI to make it clear you had your own country’s best interests in mind.
I’ll repeat: just the fact that this meeting took place looks guilty as shit. At least when Bill Clinton met with Loretta Lynch, they were both Americans. I find it highly plausible that Trump did indeed launder Russian money. Whether that had a material effect on his conduct of the 2016 election, or whether he made promises to secure office, is debatable. But when the stakes are this high, the actual merits of the case are likely to get tossed out the window.
Trump needed no extra bucks to compete in 2016. The MSM provided him billions of gratis coverage. Lest we forget, it was TRUMP<TRUMP<TRUMP 24/7 for an entire year so they could sell time and papers. His out of pocket costs were chump-change. So no thank you to Russia or any other purchasers, which is extremely rare in elections these days.
I defy anyone to argue how a no experience “community organizer” qualifies as a “serious” candidate for the presidency. And do not bring up Vladimir Lenin or his buddy Trotsky for they were far more experienced and faced a totally different system of decay. As far as “looks” goes, that is one of our big failings today, for when looks and feelings carry far more weight than substance ad truth, we are all toast. Yeah I know the is NO truth, only spin so perhaps appearances, at least in this failed experiment, are all that count. Results sure do not.
It’s amusing that people still trot out ‘community organizer’ as if that term somehow hurts Obama. He ‘community organized’ his way into two terms in the Oval Office. How do ya like them apples? Please.
As for qualifications, Obama had an Ivy League law degree and was a sitting Senator from Illinois when he began his campaign — both credentials that Trump lacks. Trump’s big supposed qualification is that he’s a businessman who gets things done. If that claim all by itself is enough for you, then you’re in complete denial about what a shit-show the Trump campaign is, and how utterly clownish America now looks to anyone who sees it from outside.
Campaign? The Trump presidency, I mean.
Yeah, we still don’t know his grades or anything he wrote. His books were written by someone else, probably Bill Ayers. The Way forward was made smooth for Obama at every turn. This was no rail splitter from the Illinois wilderness, but a privileged Globalist candidate, groomed from boyhood by the Internationalists.
Appointed Senator you mean and I am all too familiar with how those in power utilize the power of appointment to get these patsies into office. I had to fight my ass off myself to overcome the exact situation. And Barry was still unqualified even if being a street Busker counts for anything. No practical experience and did I mention that being a scum sucking lawyer may be a qualification for robbing the public, but NOT for governing them. Yes we have opinions and are allowed to air them but I would never be so obnoxious as to impose mine upon a foreigner and their government, even if I think that Angela Merkel is a CIA shill (yes I know she is not in Canada).
@James: You DO know that Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law Review, don’t you? And that he later taught constitutional law at law school?
These are not the kind of credentials that one acquires by accident. As the product of a science curriculum at a public university, I can’t personally vouch for the expertise those positions entail … but I have a sneaking suspicion they require a more finely-tuned intellect than you or I enjoyed at the age of twenty-something.
Feel free to hate on Obama all you want for his politics or his practices —go ahead, knock yourself out — but kindly cut out the diatribes based on the color of his skin. It’s childish, tiring, and makes you look like a dinosaur from the last century.
Dr. G, I cannot recall anyone bashing Barry because of his race, in fact at this point in time, the only candidate that I can think of myself that is worthy of the job would be Allen West. I also had thoughts that Colin Powell might have made a good president, but I got the feeling that he realizes that the system is too corrupt for a man of his character and did not care to fight it.
I have made a living travelling into New York City and sitting across the desk in the corner office from ridiculously wealthy business owners and negotiating our deals directly with them. You cannot do this for over fifteen years without having a very good ability to judge a man’s character on the fly. Barry O was a snotty little punk and an angry, evil man. He fermented hatred between the races, between the classes, between the sexes and half of the idiots in this nation fell for it. That fact alone makes him a disgrace to the office and a disgrace to America. If you had the good fortune to know some of the people that actually had to deal with Barry on a regular basis as I do, well, I’ll stop right there. Think what you may, believe what you want after all it is your right but please do not go all holier than thou on us. Please.
Let no one get the idea that I’m fond of Barack Obama. His drone program killed countless innocents and fomented terrorist hatred against the West. He perpetuated mass surveillance and allowed the Bush-era torturers off scot-free. He did the same for the Wall Street banksters who not only wrecked the economy but used that wreckage to extort trillions out of the public purse. There’s plenty and to spare to blame him for.
But what you said, Walter B? It’s nonsense. Nonsense, plain and simple.
Walter B: Claiming to have “a very good ability to judge a man’s character on the fly,” you assert that Barack Obama was “was a snotty little punk and an angry, evil man.”
Oh, so you’re a man of the world, are you? Able to plumb the depths of a man’s soul through the TV screen? I call bullshit. Back in the day, George W. Bush claimed that he looked Vladimir Putin in the eye and got a ‘sense of his soul’, finding him ‘very straightforward and trustworthy’. That was fatuous nonsense then, and what you said, Walter B, is fatuous nonsense now. The most it’s good for is a laugh.
Walter B: “He [Obama] fermented hatred between the races, between the classes, between the sexes…”.
More bullshit. I challenge you to make a coherent case for this claim based on things Obama actually said and did during his eight years in office. This claim has no merit; its only motive is your personal antipathy for the man, made patently obvious above, and likely influenced by propaganda from Obama’s political opponents. Do better.
Excellent summary, Elrond. Thanks for your sane posts.
Mueller needs to — and he probably is —following the money. Finally seeing Trump’s oh-so-sacred tax returns would help … but even without those, the money trail will eventually lead right to his family’s front door.
#4 if he made “full use” I don’t think he got his or the Russians money’s worth. Again not much of a deal maker.
Broken record janet.
LMAO. But hey, welcome to the conversation, dear DNC partner Janet. It’s a long way to here from your alternative reality, so I wish you a safe and pleasant journey back to the fiction from whence you come.
Nice!
Great post, JHK.
“wondering who all the people in those oil paintings are… and what are they looking at, anyway…”
I’m still laughing at this one.
I’ll say what I’ve said before (sorry). No impeachment. No early bath (that one’s for Q).
Make him do his time – no excuses.
And why are they all dressed in all those funny clothes?
Will Trump’s picture join them, then? OMG.
There is no style of clothing that is more ridiculous than the modern day suit and tie. Cold in the Winter, hot in the Summer, you can’t put anything in any of the pockets without looking like you have goiters. It is the garb of today’s thief, the grafters, the snake oil salesmen, the evil bankers and the mortgage foreclosing Granny killers. I am at a loss as to why all of the worthless men in society insist on covering themselves in them. As a warning to others perhaps? That at least makes sense.
No civilization was every constructed by a man wearing a suit, nor was a single brain tumor ever removed with a suit garbed surgeon. Those who create value for society do it with their hands and dress accordingly. Those who steal value from others use their mouths. Perhaps there are better uses that we can put those lying tongues to eh?
Nice post, Walter. Although I’m quite partial to a nice, well-cut suit on a man (our weather is less extreme in both directions) and even a waistcoat on special occasions if he doesn’t have Trump’s dimensions. But you’re right. It says ‘surplus value’ that someone else created, most of the time.
GA,
Is that why men are still dressing in such impractical, ridiculous garb (suits) – because of women? As the war of feminists against real men heat up to the boiling point, I wish that men would just put their suits in the closet and save them for funerals. Then throw their ties in the garbage. Are not ties just ropes with which men figuratively hang themselves every day?
outsider
I doubt very much they wear them for women. Over here they wear them if their employer has a dress code that says they have to wear a suit, probably if they work in an office and have to meet important clients. Most workplaces settle for ‘smart casual’ – I’ve never worked anywhere where people wore actual suits on a regular basis. If they did, people immediately asked if they had a job interview. Where I worked it was a lot more casual than smart. Any visitors were dressed likewise, mostly, the important thing being the work that needed to be done.
I wish that (certain) men would get off the ‘look what the feminists have done’ bandwagon.
I’m lucky. I now work from home freelance doing the exact same job for (mostly) the exact same firm, but much less of it, by choice. I could have a teleconference in my dressing gown and slippers and no-one would know. I occasionally do. Then I get dressed and take the dog for a walk. That’s what I call a working life 🙂 Well, I’ve earned it and done my years dutifully, and no-one gets charged a penny for time I’ve not spent working – mostly they get extra time gratis, whatever I’m wearing.
That’s right GA, feminists are not responsible for the degradation of men, men are because they made the choice to be weak rather than strong. I was fortunate just as you are to be able to engineer my systems and prepare my proposals in my home office in my skivvies if I so chose to. The work was what counted, my abilities were what sold my services not my garb. I was never the shallow type (though I may be an AH as some claim) that was impressed with the outer layers when it is the inner layers that have the true value. It may take longer to make a good impression when you are not all dolled up like a window mannequin, but if the quest is a valuable one, the time it takes to do it right will be well spent in any event.
Suits (and especially ties!) are slave clothes, only slightly different from the manacle forged around the neck, they tell the world and the wearer that freedom and volition have been sold to the Massa, and that he/she is capable of anything.
If you think about what is worn by the owners of vast corporations, it is mostly polo shirts, comfortable pants. The doctors who own our local hospital are never seen in suits and never wear ties. It’s a signal that means something.
That’s even better than my prior post. Slave clothes exactly! Just look at Mark Zuckerberg. Runs a billion dollar empire wearing colored t-shirts and hoodies.
For the ties it means they are unhygienic, hanging bits of fabric that shouldn’t be worn in a clinical setting!
I go back to my USAF days once again. Every now and then one of us “maintenance pukes” would have to suit up in our dress blues (hopefully with plenty of notice beforehand, as they were always in disrepair and wrinkled from lying wherever we threw them after we hurriedly peeled them off in revulsion after last wearing them) to meet a board or whatever. The goal was always to take them to work on a hanger, change in some inconspicuous place at the last possible minute, and then get back out of them as soon as possible afterward to avoid being seen altogether. They were hideous things, and to a man, EVERYONE I knew loathed the damn things. I gave mine away promptly to the Airman’s Attic just as soon as I was on retirement leave.
Yes, it’s a relic of the Military Aristocracy, watered down and dolled up as the Industrialism rose. We need a New Civilization and a new dress code. And needless to say, a New Military Aristocracy.
EXCELLENT Walter! I’ve said similar many times!
Well, Walt, tell us what the proper man in America should wear.
Should I wear the oversized, juvenile, throwaway shit that drapes the frames of most men today? Maybe I should put on an overpriced jersey with another man’s name on it, a logo, and some flip-flops? Would that advertise my status to your standards?
Self-righteous working-class-hero-bullshit is a redflag for those angry they never made it- for one reason or another. When suits were the norm for the middle class America was at its best.
Point to Romanmanner.
Just like when school children wear a proper uniform, often with a blazer for both boys and girls, instead of the latest (usually putrid) fashion. It sets a tone, and enhances the environment: quietly saying that one is expected to act in a civilized manner (if not like an adult.)
Yes, I agree, America was better when men wore coat and tie.
Under no circumstance does a self-respecting man wear any nonsensical children’s apparel – yet the short pants baggy look, backward baseball hat is ubiquitous.
Professional sports memorabilia to anyplace but a sporting event, backyard BBQ or bar is usually well indicative of a man with low or no standards.
Yet it is precisely the lowest standards of communications (speaking and writing,) behaviour, dress and attitude that is actively encouraged by many outlets of the mass media.
A tie may be just a tie but remember also that a tie is a discrete signal for a group, be that a fraternity, club, or regiment.
I like to wear a fine rep or school tie with my button-down oxford shirt that fits at the neck, when I wear a blazer. Besides a suit jacket or blazer is just the covering when carrying concealed in a Galco Jackass rig.
Looking one’s best is a prerogative that indicates a man to be a gentleman irrespective of economic position.
If “dressing your best” means that you have to wear the same crap that the other puny sellout rip-off artists are wearing, “your best” is not very good. A suit and tie do not a gentleman make, just ask Harvey Weinstein or Bill Clinton. There are plenty of choices for sharp garb that do not include the uniform of the chronically corrupt.
I’m with Walter. Suits are nothing more than a signal that you do no and have no intention of ever doing any physical labor, since you’d have to change clothes to do it. The “oversized, juvenile, throwaway shit” that many men wear today has many causes, most of them directly attributable to – surprise, surprise! – men who wear suits for a living. When I see a man in a suit I see a crook plain and simple, or at the very least a fool masquerading as one. Suits are little more than the modern uniform/class marker for the professional criminal class, and I work with more than a few of these vermin every day.
Under no circumstance shall I ever wear a “seven-day shitter” as our Yzlamik friends are often attired; nor a flowing, finely embroidered Mandarin robe with prescribed civil service hat.
Both the fine and working apparel of the African usually had something to do with an animal skin with some teeth strung on a cord as a necklace indicating prowess and station and other manly virtues.
I think the opposition here is suggesting something totally utilitarian like the Amish are predisposed to wear or rather more authoritarian as Soviet commissar would hang his Hero medals or, in a similar vein, the official Red CHinese costume of Mao Tse Tung / Mao Zedong (Hillary was wearing something awfully close to that during the campaign, am I right?)
It’s too damned cold to even think about a toga although a military uniform in the Greek Attic style cuts quite the dashing look. Still, at current winter temperatures, a guy has got to cover up with style. That is what a CHesterfield coat is for. Or an expedition parka with some sporty Sorels.
The Polynesians had something wonderful going with a leafy loin cloth but the meteorological conditions in the Continental U.S.A. let alone Canada or the U.K. just don’t warrant it except for Hawaii, the Caribbean and other sun-drenched locales. I wonder what are the, still electricity-less, Puerto Ricans wearing today?
Until such a time that new fashion for menswear arrives it will have to be something classic, flattering and comfortable: a silk Italian suit, maybe an Armani or Brioni. Better than a white wife-beater t-shirt every time. Just ask any Goodfella.
I guess the question being raised here is: what will sartorial splendor look like post The Fourth Turning?
Sorry romanmanner the day of everybody wearing suits, the 1950’s was the generation that spawned the worthless bastard Baby Boomers that sold America out and are now pissing away all of the wealth that our Grandfathers started making. Simple folk may think that the choice is either a suit or a jockstrap, but I assure you there are many options. A smart pair of kakis or Dockers or any other of the many cool style trousers (yes that’s right, women wear pants) combined with any of the many kinds of smart shirts, sweaters turtlenecks and all of the other options offer an man with an imagination and individuality an opportunity to make a statement that he is not just another stupid lemming in a stupid suit.
My goodness. Who knew that so much would come from my innocent enjoyment of JHK’s words about the worthies hanging on the White House walls. I see you guys are really worked up about sartorial appropriateness.
I start from the premise that what men wear is entirely up to men, but as I mentioned, I do like seeing a nicely cut suit on a man. I don’t expect them to suffer at work in one, though, if that’s not their inclination. I think they look nice at weddings, which is the only place you’d catch my husband in one, apart, perhaps from a funeral or a job interview.
At my own very small and informal wedding the groom and best man wore kilts and Highland dress jackets. They looked great. The dickie bows and jackets were abandoned after the speeches and they were entirely comfortable with their waistcoats hanging open and their sleeves rolled up. Better for the ceilidh dancing too.
And I’m with Walter, in terms of the options. There are plenty of reasonably dressy trousers that are still casual and comfortable (my other half goes to work in navy cotton chinos and a casual shirt. No tie (unhygienic) and sleeves rolled up when he gets there (also for hygiene).
I’m not going to classify myself as worthless bastard baby boomer, though, Walter, despite being in the age range. I do my best to contribute as little as possible to the ruination of the generations that will follow me and always have. I’m not the only one.
My parents were the waste-not, want-not generation and it never left me. Nothing in my house gets chucked out/recycled unless it’s absolutely beyond use.
Yet you would have the British Elite deny the Will of the People and defy Brexit? And yet you Still consider yourself a believer in Democracy?
I saw you are a Tory, a follower on the new Global Aristocrats.
Why do you persist in making up nonsense? I’ve asked you repeatedly to stop telling me what I think.
A Tory? Seriously? I’d give up my vote before I’d vote for that self-enriching crew. Never in my long life. But I’m DELIGHTED that you see them as you do. Made my day, it has.
The British Elite who engineered Brexit weren’t even all British. Rupert Murdoch (I’ve already given you the relevant quote twice) who has been engineering this for 40 years, isn’t even British. Neither is the dark money that helped their campaign.
But no, as with Trump, I go with the democratic flow. You elected him – you keep him for four years. The Brexiters voted for a lower standard of living and isolation from things that matter*- let them enjoy it. I have no interest in interfering with the will of the people, however self-harming.
Oddly you’ve never commented on my observation that under your electoral system (votes according to intelligence) Brexit would have lost. The least educated voted for Brexit.
*Once out of Euratom, UK doctors aren’t going to be able to procure what they need to treat their cancer patients, nuclear medicine-wise. Try explaining that to a blowhard Brexit voter.
As in Orwell’s 1984, the proles, being the least educated (conditioned) understand the system the best. And of course the most educated, the least for the most part.
Thankfully we’re not in 1984, then. Here, the least educated spent time on Google AFTER the referendum looking up ‘What is the EU?’ I kid you not. After 40 years. That’s what 40 years of reading Rupert Murdoch’s rags does.
Do ‘We’ get T-shirts so we can tell who we are?
I just had a T-shirt made that says, “Show me your Tweets!”.
Is that wrong?
““Show me your Tweets!”.
Is that wrong?
Daveed,
Only if you fail to copyright it….
Or the New York Times and Michael Wolff are lying liars and those who still read them and believe anything they say are idiots morons and dopes. In my judgement, that is exactly so.
Mofo,
Is Trump a moron? Is the book accurate? I don’t know, and opinions, often snap judgments, while freely offered, are usually subjective and subject to change or at least debate.
We have been dealt a hand…we should just play it out. I would speak to his intelligence if I were to have a few hours around the man to form my own opinion…but that scenario is unlikely.
It is difficult in this Anno 2018, to believe much of what you see, read, or hear.
akmofo,
Why was a celebrity journalist like Wolff, a known liar per sources I’ve read, given such access in the WH anyway? Wasn’t that when Reince Priebus was Chief of Staff? I always questioned his loyalty to the President anyway. I hope that General Kelly kicked his sorry butt out, but the damage had already been done.
Bannon is a traitor to the President. The book makes that clear. And Ivanka is dumb as a brick. Also true. Other than that, it’s nothing but lies. And yeah, why did these people cooperate with this hack?
‘…Gabriel Sherman of Vanity Fair tweeted this, revealing just how easy it would have been for Trump’s allies to have prevented this calamity: “One of the baffling things about Trumpworld giving access to Wolff: all they needed to do was call Murdoch and he would have said don’t cooperate b/c Wolff had written nasty book on him. And Jared/Trump speak to Murdoch all the time!” Michael Wolff responded by quoting that tweet, and deadpanning “I kept waiting for that call to be made…”’
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/wolff-snook/7188/
‘Why did people cooperate with this hack?’
Quite likely – and contrary to a prudent appraisal – they proceeded with the starstruck attitude of ‘There’s no such thing as bad publicity’. We know that time and again Prez ManBaby has talked to media hacks he should have told to get lost – even when he knew they were bad news.
A combination of naïveté and arrogance is the obvious conclusion. Not media-savvy politicos.
An old saw comes to mind: ‘The most dangerous thing in the sky is a doctor in a Bonanza’.
I was surprised to find that it actually is an old saw. I thought SpeedyBB was just messing with us. Check it out on this good website:
http://a4skyhawk.info/article/aviation-humor
The pilot was sitting in his seat and pulled out a .38 revolver.
He placed it on top of the instrument panel, and then asked the navigator, “Do you know what I use this for?”
The navigator replied timidly, “No, what’s it for?”
The pilot responded, “I use this on navigators who get me lost!”
The navigator proceeded to pull out a .45 and place it on his chart table. The pilot asked, “What’s that for?”
“To be honest sir,” the navigator replied, “I’ll know we’re lost before you will.”
A tale full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Trump is going nowhere, the book is just the latest lame attempt, it will be as ineffective as the other attempts. Trump is but a mirror, he is America. Most folks in flyover country could not care less about “qualifications” for office, due to the legions of “qualified” politicians who have condemned this country to it’s looming fate. They want Washington DC torn down at all costs or better yet just blown up, metaphorically or actually will be equally welcomed.
Everyone needs to budget their righteous indignation and opprobrium, it’s going to be a long ride to the end of the line.
Spot on
We’d lend you Guy Fawkes, but they made a bit of a mess of him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKtKK2YXPDU
On November the Fifth people gather on the heath
Point their Roman candles at the sky
From a broken branch and leaf they construct a fiery wreath
Ready for the burning of the Guy…
I suppose in a way GF was the ‘man they couldn’t hang’ because the story is that he kind of hanged himself. Knowing he was about to be drawn and quartered, after being part-hanged (‘the past is another country – they do things differently there…’) he dropped himself sneakily off the ladder and broke his neck, so was dead and gone before they started on the pre-post-mortem. So they chopped him up, but he didn’t feel a thing.
They’re not bad, the band – didn’t know them.
GreenAlba, that reminds me of Chidiock Tichborne. “Tichborne was not pre-eminently a poet but a conspirator. History is not sure of the part he played in the attempt to do away with Queen Elizabeth…On September 14, 1586 he was tried and pled guilty. He was executed on September 20. In a grim finale, history relates, he was ‘disemboweled before life was extinct’, and the news of the barbarity ‘reached the ears of Elizabeth, who forbade the recurrence.’” But it may have been legal at the time.
Anyone curious about the “mesmerizing brutality” of punishments in those days should read “Killers of the King: The Men Who Dared to Execute Charles I” by Charles Spencer, a fascinating book.
Here is the first stanza of Tichborne’s poem “On the Eve of His Execution”. He was twenty-eight years old:
My prime of youth is but a frost of cares,
My feast of joy is but a dish of pain,
My crop of corn is but a field of tares,
And all my good is but vain hope of gain;
The day is past and yet I saw no sun,
And now I live, and now my life is done.
From “The Treasury of Great Poems English and American” [Louis Untermeyer, October 1942]
windward
I see (because I just checked, having suspected it) that Charles S. is indeed the 9th Earl Spencer, brother of Diana. I wonder if Finca will find something intriguing in the coincidence!
It’s something I ponder occasionally, that not only did these brutal punishments take place (pour encourager les autres) but they were occasions of public entertainment.
I know that life was inevitably more brutish, but you still wonder (or at least I do) how humans could watch other humans undergo unspeakable brutality of that sort, whenever it was.
According to this…
https://www.britannica.com/topic/drawing-and-quartering
… it survived in the statutes till as late as 1870, which is pretty shocking. The last actual instance was 1803, and a sentence was passed (but not carried out) in 1867 upon two ‘Fenians’.
So it was still perfectly legal in England under Elizabeth I.
True that. I don’t think Trump can be shamed out of office, and the Republicans in Congress know that ANY apology or concession to the radical left is just the starting point on a negotiation to give up more ground.
We’ve come to the point that compromise, the heart of politics, has become a sucker’s game. There will be no 25th amendment removal unless the Dems sweep Congress.
And if they sweep congress (long odds despite the prevailing media narrative) and vote to impeach, that is when the the street action gets “real” as they say. Trump will refuse to decamp the white house and we are in uncharted territory at that point, but Rome will be burning.
What “radical left”? These are the words of a true Fox News casualty. There is no radical left in U.S. governance anywhere. If George Orwell, who took a bullet in the neck fighting for socialism in Spain, laid eyes on the Democratic Party of 2018, he’d die of scorn.
There is one sole, honourable exception to the above observation, though. He may not have secured the 2016 Dem nomination (which would have secured him the presidency, given his Republican opponent), but Bernie Sanders remains the most popular politician in America by a wide margin. And his policies, also widely popular, are about as “radical” as what was normal for a Republican like Dwight Eisenhower back in the fifties.
Elrond,
If it is true that Sanders is “the most popular politician in America,” then god help us. As president he’d be a disaster, and his whacky economic policies would sink us into a depression. He didn’t even have the backbone to prevent that radical BLM woman from taking the microphone from him during a campaign event.
I’ve never seen video of that microphone incident, but I read about it. And I understand how it could make Sanders look weak — if, that is, your ideal of leadership is a silverback caudillo who inspires fear and trembling, with a sinewy thigh you can stare on. This is the very impulse (bully-worship, Orwell called it) that tipped the last election to the candidate who is now busily reshaping America’s slow decline into an epic nose-dive of the world’s respect.
Democracy is still one of America’s ideals, and a (small-‘d’) democratic leader is supposed to stand for and represent all the people. When the people step up and demand to be heard, such a leader is wise enough to let them speak and to listen attentively, the better to do his job. If he does it right, he makes more allies instead of more enemies, and becomes stronger by it.
A man like this, the one politician in D.C. who actually gives a shit about the problems of real people and acts to fix those problems, is who you could have had as president. You got who you got instead, and god help you. The only reason people aren’t laughing at Trump any louder than they already are is the very real fear that he’ll nuke us all into oblivion in a fit of belligerent senility, like Uncle Junior did to Tony Soprano.
It is certain that Bernie is a politician, but whether he is a good, a decent or an honest one is anyone’s guess at this point. One thing that has been proven about him already is that he just sat there like a gutless coward and took it up the butt at the hands of the Clinton Crime Family without muttering a peep. That if nothing else makes him far too much a gutless weasel to occupy any office that require public trust. Yes I know he did not want to end up like Vince Foster, but he took it like a whipped dog and there is no excuse for that.
Walter B: I don’t take your scorn of Bernie Sanders seriously. I just think it’s partisanship on your part. Let me explain why I think that.
Let’s start by looking at the Democratic party. Democrats still blame Ralph Nader for George Bush’s victory in the 2000 election, saying he siphoned off support from Al Gore. No less a figure than Noam Chomsky (not a Democrat, but a commentator who is very well-informed indeed) added his voice to the blame-Nader chorus. In the 2016 election, it was Jill Stein they blamed for Hillary Clinton’s loss. In both cases, the Democrats point the finger at someone else altogether, instead of the candidate they ran and the Republican they ran against. The idea that the candidates themselves lost their own election doesn’t enter into consideration. The idea that the value proposition the Democrats put forth failed, on its own merits, is not speakable. They’re quite consistent about this: the Democratic party cannot fail. It can only be failed, by those who owe it fealty. The fealty itself is not to be questioned.
I for one am convinced that if Bernie Sanders had won the Dem nomination, he would have trounced Trump in the general. But that’s not what happened. So, did Bernie owe fealty to the Democrats? Absolutely not. He has forged a successful political career separate from them, and a good thing too. So why throw his support behind Hillary Clinton? My guess is two things. One, Bernie also accepts the same logic by which people condemn previous third-party candidates. Two, he abhorred the idea of a Trump presidency more than he fancied tilting at windmills and trying to defeat the system from the outside. So not only did he not want to be the next Ralph Nader, he sacrificed his own ambitions for the greater good as he saw it; or at any rate, he decided not to burn his bridges with the Democrats, such as they were.
You can’t win with people. You just can’t. In the American system, there’s no percentage in trying to storm the gates. Your enemies will denounce you, and your nominal allies will denounce you even more bitterly. And Sanders still has a chance in 2020.
Elrond, I would have voted for Bernie myself had he had the stones to not get screwed by the Bitch From Hell. I really would have, but he did not fight her. Granted he probably did not want to drown himself in his own hot tub, but In the end, Bernie was defeated by Hillary and his own lack of ability to stand up against her. He simply did not make the cut.
And no EH, you cannot win with people. They have become ungovernable IMHO.
I beg to differ. The radical leftists that have taken over much of the “thinking” for the Democratic party , have given us Black lives matter, cultural appropriation, de-colonization of curriculum as well as antifa. Lest you forget, The Democratic Party is made up of a myriad of people who are part of the Academic / Government / Media complex. Case in point:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/style/black-bloc-fashion.html
Please note the one subject those ‘radical leftists’ in the Democratic party avoid with perfect fastidiousness: any policies that address the epic, and increasing, maldistribution of wealth in society. That would be real, actual radicalism.
It doesn’t matter how ‘radical chic‘ you are on matters of race, sex, identity, etc. etc. — it’s all about the money. If you want to see something travel faster than light, just go to a Democratic party fundraiser and keep your eye on the person who suggests passing single-payer health care, funded by a tax on the wealthy. They’ll be kicked out of there before you can even blink.
It’s not a coincidence that the one person who actually champions such policies is both the most popular politician in America and anathema to the establishment of both major parties. A little of that kind of radicalism would be very good indeed for America.
Excellent, Elrond, I’m with you. Anyone who can seize the moment like he did in “Birdie Sanders” has got a fine head on his shoulders, and we knew that anyway. Those of us who have any sense, that is.
Seconded here too, Elrond. Nail on head. I particularly like your neat distinction between radicalism and ‘radical chic’, which is not sufficiently made elsewhere.
Antifa radical enough for you? The Dems are corporatist shills, but I hadn’t thought of them as radical left.
They’re not radical left – that’s the point. They’re not even conventional left. Anti-fascism per se is a good thing to any normal person – Antifa seem to be a bit of a liability to a respectable cause.
I’m a lowercase antifascist — very much not Antifa. The black bloc idiots with their masks provide an impeccable excuse for state repression of the entire movement, and their violence scares ordinary, apolitical people into supporting the repression. The risk of fascists gaining ascendancy, even if it’s small, is too real and too odious to allow that kind of nonsense.
(Note: If he’s true to form, the above is Janos’ cue to jump in and proclaim that I looove Antifa, that I want to have its babies, and also Bill Ayers this and Tolkien that. So I’ll take this opportunity to pre-but him: Shut up, Janos.)
Well, indeed, Elrond. Your ‘note’ afforded me a giggle, thank you.
After all, Janos has me down as a Jihadist, aristocratic but empireless ‘generic Brit’ who rides with hounds ‘hopefully side saddle’. There’s simply no accounting for a mind like that, other than perhaps having been accidentally dropped on his head during his Christening.
Also, were I partial to conspiracy theories, which I’m not, I could wonder if Antifa were ‘agents provocateurs’ acting on behalf of Janos’ lot.
The French Communist Party, whose musings I endured when I lived in that country in the 70s, were fond of labelling people as ‘objective allies’ of something or other (generally ‘la droite’) – you can see what they meant, though.
GreenAlba, if you know anything about the FBI’s COINTELPRO program, and the report of the Church Committee, then you know that agents provocateurs have been a standard tool used by America’s political police.
The FBI, at least, received serious pushback from the Congress in the 1970s, which limited Richard Nixon’s ability to target his political opponents (African Americans and the left) in the way he wanted to. This led Nixon to invent the War on Drugs as a pretext for doing so, under cover of a law-and-order agenda (as Nixon aide John Ehrlichman later disclosed to a journalist). It’s also purported that ABSCAM, the late-1970s sting operation that netted multiple members of Congress for receiving cash bribes, was institutional pushback from the FBI over the limitations that had been imposed on them.
In the post-9/11 world, of course, it’s a free-for-all. With so much ‘national security’ money sloshing around D.C., the so-called ‘intelligence community’ has metastasized into a mixed-government/private industry hairball devoted to surveillance and political policing. Read this article about how the protest movement against the Dakota Access Pipeline was targeted, by people who stood to profit by repression:
https://theintercept.com/2017/05/27/leaked-documents-reveal-security-firms-counterterrorism-tactics-at-standing-rock-to-defeat-pipeline-insurgencies/
Happy, happy news! 🙂
Thanks Elrond. I’ve bookmarked the article and will read it properly later. I’m old enough to have forgotten that I once knew some of the things I’ve forgotten. My heyday included ITT and Allende, the Red Brigades, the Symbionese Liberation Army and a lot of stuff I can hardly believe ever happened.
I need a refresher course…
Yes, our own movies revel in images of the White House burning as in Independence Day. Or stories like Nathan Hoag and his raiders burning it in The Postman.
The Establishment is unspeakably Evil. Trump’s problem is not his crudity but rather his allegiance to the Establishment.
The Left have taken over the Democratic Party and are one wing of the Establishment now. You’re not going to get any change from them either – except for the worse. Minions of the Deep State. Servants of the Deep Ones! Beware of Dolphins as well. They’re far more intelligent than people believe – and utterly evil.
Beware of Dolphins as well. They’re far more intelligent than people believe – and utterly evil.
OK, I’ll bite. Please expound, oh grandiloquent racist one!
Oh now you want to talk! I challenged you to single combat yet you ignored the challenge. I throw my gloves in your face!
LOL! You’re so chivalrous Janos! I trust that you imagine yourself to be some sort of twisted White Knight of some ill-begotten medieval order? Sorry, I don’t do Dungeons and Dragons.
Now, what about the Dolphins, you freakin’ knucklehead!
I’m also waiting with bated breath to hear what Flipper was really up to all those years ago.
Morning Jim-(“And when they go over that no-bid Niagara cascade into the maelstrom, Mr. Trump’s boat will be going over the falls with them.”) They’ll have to go over on a sled, I hear that its (Niagara) frozen over. But with Trump’s foresight and ingenuity he ‘probably planned it that way’. One thing that cold weather will never freeze in Minnesota is- Sarcasm.
Is it a serious proposition that the President should be impeached over the ramblings of a tell-all book? Sorry, folks, that dog won’t hunt.
Is he fit for office? Seriously Jim, what the hell does that even mean anymore? Nobody is fit for office, the office, the system, all the players (and they are that) is shot, worthless, corrupt beyond salvation. Besides starting (and never stopping) endless wars for profit for this MIC Masters, what does these scumbags accomplish beside getting re-elected and lining their own profits? NOTHING, that is what.
Nixon was forced to run because at the time the nation had laws and rules that applied to everyone not just the peons and morality was not dead yet. I think it is very appropriate that a Reality Show host is at the helm of a reality-less nations of screen-staring dipshits. It is a perfect fit and far better than every other choice, although if I HAD a choice Allen West and/or Catherine Austin-Fitts would be excellent choices. But then in a nation that is far too populated with deviants that cannot take a crap without a legal battle, well Bozo the Clown might even pass as our next president. So your existential quandary is really right where we all find ourselves, isn’t it?
In the end, little piggy’s go down quicksand holes because Natural Selection cannot be outwitted forever. While it is sad to waste a tasty meal in the muck, that system works far better than the one that has been set up by thieving lawyers for profit for them at the expense of others. When greed and avarice are the rules of the day, a quicksand pit is not far down the path and avoiding it is not gonna happen.
Walter B.,
Well-visualized conclusions. (Meaning of course, that I agree. 😉 )
Wish I’d seen your comment before key-tapping; I could have forgone the whole thing! Oh well, it does help coalesce the ramblings of my mind into something faintly resembling coherence. (At least, to me.)
Thanks and Good Luck.
Walter,
Given the piddling nature of his crimes, could you imagine Nixon resigning today? No fucking way!
His biggest crime was walking on the beach in a suit with his penny loafers on. That lost him the election. No, his actual crime was “opening” China so they could take our manufacturing jobs. But the Establishment is so far gone they think that was great.
His biggest crime was walking on the beach in a suit with his penny loafers on. – Janos
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It was worse than penny loafers…he wore wing tips.
“I stepped up on the platform
The man gave me the news
He said, “You must be joking, son.
Where did you get those shoes?”
Jim as you wrote about Nixon and the current resident it reminded me of the Costa Concordia. Just plain “dead in the water”; rolled on its side over-bloated in the shallows due to stupidity… Where’s the Captain?!
I think the idea of the Trumps immediate demise and departure are a bit premature. Bannon’s Book could very well be pure fiction. One look at the guy and you can tell he is crazy.
I am an Independent and think they are all Lying Grafting Politicians. My bet would be Trump will serve the 4 years and then take his walk down Thank You Street [wall street] and Nikki Haley will be the GOP canadaite.
That sounds about right. Two female general election candidates in 2020 for sure. Trump serves a valuable purpose now as the ultimate court jester and rich white male delegitimizer; although, of course it’s all just for show.
With Michelle Obama on the left….
My understanding is/was that Michelle O hasn’t the slightest interest in politicking.
For a republic that sent a monarchy packing, you folks really do like dynasties 🙂
Never can tell O’Greeny. Talk about the ultimate stick in the eye to the Clinton’s!!! I’ll bet that dog would definitely hunt socially and politically!
But the Roosevelt’s, Bushes and Clintons are insisting that dynasty is the way it is. The Kennedys would have too if Allen Dulles was bot as good as he was at murder.
The idiot Nikki Haley? You can’t be serious. If this ultimate hawk is ever elected, get ready for WWIII, that is, if it hadn’t started by then. Why Trump ever appointed her to such a high level position as UN Ambassador remains a mystery to me, although I suspect it was Pence’s doing.
She’s dreadful. At the UN, I was just waiting for her to say ‘ this is going to hurt you much more than it’s going to hurt me. And wait till I tell your parents’.
Yeah why not that Hawaiian babe, Tulsi Gabbard? She’s like Jill Stein but with tits and ass. Not entirely White, but what can you? At least she won’t start WW3. And she does have a nice face, both comely and intelligent.
She’s like Jill Stein but with tits and ass. Not entirely White, but what can you [do]?
Oops! I think you’ve committed a mortal sin there, big boy.
For a wonderful moment, there, Scratch, I thought you meant the sexism. But I see you just meant the lapse from philosophical purity. Or impurity 🙂
Bingo O’Greeny!
If Tulsi runs for potus in 2020 she wins handily – if she can get past the Democrat rigged primary. The American people are sick unto death of all these endless wars. That’s how Trump got in. But, he has let the people down. Tulsi, an Iraq war vet (2 tours I believe), has better anti-war credentials than Trump. And, as Janos said, she’s an “Hawaiian babe,” not an ugly old hag like Hillary. Gabbard’s on the political left, but I’m willing to overlook that if she stops the wars and brings the troops home.
Outsider,
NO mere president will even try to put an end to the GWOT if they know what’s good for them.
Jim,
You write:
“Is he fit for office? This question hangs in the air of the DC swamp like a necrotic odor that can’t be seen while it can’t be ignored. In a way, the very legitimacy of the republic comes into question — if Trump is the best we can do, maybe the system itself isn’t what it was cracked up to be. And then why would we think that removing him from office would make things better? How’s that for an existential quandary?”
Most of those who are brave enough to broach the subject will tell you that the republic is now “illegitimate”, in that it no longer works for the betterment of the average citizen, and that it has been for some time. No question. This is Trump’s only gift to the American people: blatant exposure of that fact. No argument or deep pondering. Suspicion has become conviction.
Now, if the rest of the shysters and grifters (congress-persons) are aware of this (and I do believe they are), they certainly don’t want the news to get out. There’s the “why” of all this posturing about prezdenshul “crimes and misdemeanors”. I think there’s a worry that they’ll *all* be exposed for the venal shitheads and megalomaniacs that they really are. I sure hope they will be — and following the money is a bit easier these days via the intertubes for those interested in such trifles.
As you have many times indicated, when everyone is out to scam everyone else, that “society” no longer deserves the name, as the rot has gone too deep. “A necrotic odor” indeed.
BTW, I always been interested in why it’s a choice between a bang and a whimper? That will probably be just as diversified as the personalities of folks in varied situations and predicaments. …Bangings over here; whimperings over there; forgotten pockets of quietude; swaths of devastation and endemic dangers. Still and all, the ending of a clearly unworkable status quo and the death of bureaucracies whose purpose had devolved into self-propagation and nothing more. What will the next [societal] beginning look like? Guess that will depend on the personalities of those who will be forced to face it.
Exactly, the people ‘forced to face it” will dig the foundations of the new society.
To take a prior example, what do the Ten Commandments look like to you? To me they look like ten easy to remember rules that any illiterate herdsman could commit to memory.
The Ten C’s also look like simple rules cooked up by people on the run in the post-collapse eastern Mediterranean ie when civilization went splat around the 12th century BC.
Nobody back then apparently had the will or wherewithal to administer a complex legal code when cities were being abandoned and people were fleeing inland and huddling around fortified hilltops. The priority was survival and nobody had patience for legalistic intricacies. A total mess IOW.
And even the much storied Exodus led by Charlton Heston may even have had some historical basis ie a segment of Judean society could have been comprised of Egyptian refugees.
They may have had a humble start but those ten simple rules caused history-making reverberations. Be interesting to see what gets cooked up by post-collapse folk on this side of the pond.
And yet Roy Moore was condemned and spat on when he tried to have the Ten Commandments displayed outside a Government building. As Aragorn said, good and evil remain ever the same, equally among Elves, Dwarves, and Men. I mean no sane society is going to endorse Gay Marriage or making little boys into girls any more than murder.
So, are you an Elve or a Dwarf? Or perhaps both?
“And yet Roy Moore was condemned and spat on when he tried to have the Ten Commandments displayed outside a Government building.”
I thought that the separation of Church and State was one of your founding principles. Seems to have created the most intense concentration of religiosity in the western world, nevertheless, which is an amusing paradox. So you’re into theocracies, like the people you least admire – or would that be putting words in your mouth? I wouldn’t want to compete with you in that.
To be fair, the US is a nation of nations, not a single cultural polity composed of by one people/culture. There have been and continues to be, cultures within America that are rational, skeptical, reasoned, and capable of great things. However, this rationality has been largely overwhelmed by the country’s predilection toward magical thinking of all kinds: religion, utopia building, medicinal/health quackery of all sorts, conspiratorial thinking (look at half the comments on here), and just about any other kind of mass delusion. Flat earth is a thing. Think about that for a second.
My long winded and poorly developed point is this: not all of the US is overrun by the crazies. There are plenty of us who do not want magical thinking and sky wizards who ‘wrote’ books 3500 years ago to be anywhere near a courtroom.
Also, Janos is a sad person; either (1) mentally ill or (2) bed bound but w/internet access. Who else would post that much and with that much bile?
Hello romanmanner
Don’t worry, I know you’re not all waiting for the rapture to sweep you up like a thief in the night 🙂
It’s an interesting paradox, nevertheless, that Church and State are legally separate, unlike here, yet (or so the late Joe Bageant tells me) the corridors of power contain a not insignificant number of the alumni of ‘bible colleges/universities’, not really a ‘thing’ in the old country.
Your point was neither long-winded not poorly developed. I entirely agree with all of it and read enough from sensible US sources, excellently researched, to know that the US is not a monolith, either politically or educationally.
We have plenty of magical thinking over here too, albeit not quite so apocalyptic (everything is ‘more’ and ‘bigger’ over your way, obviously!). Our own Francis Wheen (wrote for the Guardian, I think, at one time) produced a book of his articles on the subject, which I had at one time: How Mumbo Jumbo Conquered the World – A Short History of Modern Delusions.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Mumbo-Jumbo-Conquered-World-Delusions/dp/0007140975
A people need a moral code – and for most that will come with a religion. You’ve misunderstood our Constitution. It doesn’t promise freedom from religion, just that the state won’t set up a church or make you go to any particular one. But obviously you can’t have all kind of DIFFERENT religions and cultures (cult being the root of culture) in the same State.
You’re a very devout devotee of the Religion of Diversity. It has beliefs, practices, high priests and priestesses, crusades, and of course a Devil – White Men who won’t bow to it.
Janos
“You’ve misunderstood our Constitution. It doesn’t promise
freedom from religion, just that the state won’t set up a
church or make you go to any particular one.”
I haven’t misunderstood it at all, thanks. That’s exactly what I understand by separation of Church and State. I spent years living in France, remember?
I just said it’s a bit of a paradox, which it is. We have different religions here, and denominations of the same religion. AND a state religion in England, AND a different denomination in Scotland. But less religiosity (thank God, haha).
“But obviously you can’t have all kind of DIFFERENT religions and cultures (cult being the root of culture) in the same State.”
Yes you can.
“You’re a very devout devotee of the Religion of Diversity.”
More cr@p. I’m not a devout devotee of anything. I Devotees have to give up independent thought, and I won’t be doing that for a while.
delete *I*…
Charles Dickens visited the USA a couple of times in the 1840’s. He said that he had “never seen a more downright religious people.” I believe he meant religious fanatics, not practitioners of any decent religious teaching.
Many people support Trump because they think God designated him to bring on the End Times. The Rapture and so on. It looks like the good times will be coming to an end pretty soon – ” your gasoline or your life” – but no one is going to be rapturous about it.
Janos,
The rift between Trump and Bannon widened when Bannon campaigned for Moore while Trump wanted Luther Strange. Strange, unless a few teenage rape victims emerged, would have surely beaten the democrat Jones, whose victory brought the Senate one step closer to control by the Dems. With friends like Bannon….
Thanks for the opportunity to trot out some ideas that occurred to me regarding the Judge Roy Moore phenomenon. I thought I’d missed my window, with the electorate having spoken and whatnot. I’ve used the American West icon Judge Roy Bean as a kind of foil
Judges
Judge Roy Bean………3 on the tree
Judge Roy Moore…….14 on the floor
Judge Roy Bean………Law west of the Pecos
Judge Roy Moore…….Fearful he’ll make us
Judge Roy Bean………Carbs, fat, and protein
Judge Roy Moore…….Just ‘mad about fourteen’
Judge Roy Bean………Pistols and cactus
Judge Roy Moore…….Sketchy law practice
Judge Roy Bean………Wears turquoise pendants
Judge Roy Moore…….Kills pesky amendments
I didn’t get to the part about the Commandments.
Old news now, I suppose.
Best,
-Daveed
Cry, the Beloved Country
Why Trump is not going anywhere while he continues to blow smoke in our faces.
What we are witnessing in this moment of time is a bold move by the oligarchs, donor class to smash the democratic institutions of this country and make it into a very obvious looting operation.
Trump is their smokescreen and he’s not going anywhere.
As I said in another thread, he’s the gift that keeps on giving to a class of owners who’s only national and global interests are money and more money at the expense of humanity and civilization itself.
Today Trump is meeting at Camp David with his Congressional Republicans to outline the agenda for 2018. This will include many unpopular ideas and you and I can do little to change that.
If 95% of the people were opposed it wouldn’t even appear as a blip on the screen. They know they have it made. They can do whatever they please to skew the votes and skew you! These are private servants and not public servants. They have no idea what public service means and they don’t care. If you and I can’t make them rich they don’t care…..
Trump knows that if these oligarchs wanted him out he would never have been there in the first place.
The 2016 election was the perfect storm. The CEO class wanted to lower the value of all labor across the globe in their play for global neoliberalism, using the military to get their way.
But with the white nationalist movement they could capture the votes of those who they screwed by just speaking to their anxieties. Of course we all know their policies destroyed those voters who have walked right into the trap. They still believe and FOX keeps the message going.
There will be no rebalance of the system which is going way out of whack. The Public sector, the Commons that this country was built upon will all be privatized. We spent $Trillions and they will snap it up for pennies on the dollar and make a mint off the rest of us. It’s all taxation, but this will cost more dearly every day.
Wall st goes up in a suckers market. When the bubble blows, you know they can’t lose. They are the First Circle…..
So Trump is their perfect foil. We all react to the tweets, we all react to his autocratic demands. We know he’s awful, but we need to remember that if there is no remedy, then you also have to know that this is what the real power wants.
Ahhhhh. So you say history may rhyme.
“On cue, at about 4:30 p.m. on July 28, 1932, the infantry began a slow, steady march forward. Completing the surreal atmosphere, a machine gun unit unlimbered, and its crew busily set up.
This was no parade, although hundreds of curious office workers had interrupted their daily routines to crowd the sidewalk or hang out of windows along Pennsylvania Avenue between the White House and the Capitol to see what would happen. Up ahead, a group of weary civilians, many dressed in rags and ill-fitting, faded uniforms, waited in anticipation amid their sorry camp of tents and structures made from clapboard and sheets of tin covered in tar paper. Some loitered in the street. They had heard something was afoot — expected it after what happened earlier. Now, a murmur rose from the camp crowd. Upon seeing the Army’s menacing approach, they were momentarily stunned, disbelieving.
Trump haters may be the new Bonus army you say.
Remember when you folks thought South Africa was going to be a paradise under Black rule? Now what have you learned from that farcical farrago? Let’s be frank, shall we? Nothing.
“…if Trump is the best we can do, maybe the system itself isn’t what it was cracked up to be…”
The system of the founding fathers was good, it envisioned spirited debate between candidates taking recognizable stances on issues with voters selecting which way to skin the cat.
The system was perverted and degraded over the years to the current shitstorm we now suffer. Money has steadily been creeping into politics but the true death blows were killing the Fairness Doctrine in 1987 and the Citizens United ruling in 2010.
It only took one year from the fall of the Fairness Doctrine to bring us the 1988 GOP TV ads about Willie Horton.
We now have a fact-free bullshit carnival every election season fueled by unlimited dark money flowing in from rich whores around the globe whom we politely call vested interests.
Further, an army of over 30,000 lobbyists in DC makes damn sure that the only thing coming out of congress is favors, loopholes, tax gimmicks, giveaways, foreign aid and a degraded U.S.Treasury.
We’re doomed until we get a national wake up call and stop falling for the usual politics of lies, mud slinging, racism, homophobia, misogyny, xenophobia, and the many shades of divide and conquer politics we’re so used to.
It is not Your Point of View, what you say is inarguable FACT. The system is shit and it is populated by turds and those that ride the turds round and down. It is not a swamp it is a cesspool and there is nothing that can be done to a cesspool to keep it from stinking like cesspools do. Even those that clean them wind up smelling like cesspools and very quickly at that. If it does not collapse or explode soon it will probably continue to sit there and stink while the mindless minions that feed it continue to walk up to the open lid and jump in dragging their children and grandchildren with them. A fitting end to a witless population.
That’s it! I’m officially commissioning a Book of Walter the next time the Bible’s up for revision. We’ll put it right after Revelations as a an updated 21st century companion piece. Good work!
As we used to say in the U.S.A.F. (Scratch should well remember this:)
Q: How is the Air Force like a cesspool?
A: The biggest chunks float right on to the top!
Donald J. Trump, haunting those hallways with the political equivalent of a sucking chest wound, Big Mac in one hand, Big Gulp in the other
I think that was Bill Clinton.
” Big Mac in one hand, Big Gulp in the other”
I think that was Bill Clinton.
Dr,
“Big Gulp”…is that what Monica called it?
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Lewinsky
“So Trump is [the First Circle’s] perfect foil. We all react to the tweets, we all react to his autocratic demands. We know he’s awful, but we need to remember that if there is no remedy, then you also have to know that this is what the real power wants.”
BT,
That’s a good, hard lesson; and as we all know, that’s how American’s like it these days; good and hard. (As Billy Hill opined a couple days past, very few are learning from/studying history. I happen to think there’s a huge willful ignorance factor involved as well.)
Being ignorant doesn’t help you, though its been working for Trump. They say he refuses to read a single page of anything.
Does that mean that he refuses, so he can make up reality or is he illiterate….Nobody knows for sure.
But willful ignorance seems to be working like a charm…will reality catch up?
The answer is blowing in the gale force winds I hear outside my window and it says. He’s fine as long as he is useful.
Trump looks like someone that doesn’t know his own limits.
OTOH, having beaten TWO national money machines we laughingly call political parties – and we shouldn’t minimize that achievement which almost nobody saw coming (aside from JM Greer) – it’s easy to see how Trump starts to believe in his own genius.
LOL! Trump looks like someone who doesn’t know his own name!
When a box of fireworks accidentally detonates, can you predict the paths of all the rocket-shaped projectiles that go boom, boom, boom? Does the job get easier when you have a whole bunch of boxes? That’s how it is with the USA with a multitude of such containers hidden in the landscape in various guises.
How many are stuffed in balance sheets of behemoth Wall Street banks? It apparently doesn’t matter that nobody understands the workings of multi-trillion dollar derivatives portfolios.
It’s not just financial detonators. Sooner or later the twenty-something snowflake contingent will take the levers of power so if you think present-day public discourse flows with hallucinogens just wait until those crack-pots ascend to high public office. What preposterous public policy will come out of the august chambers of the senate and the White House?
It’s not like EVERYTHING will change. Roman civilization altered the landscape of Europe bringing Latin and Greek and Judaic thought out of the southern and eastern Mediterranean. Nonetheless, the present-day map of Europe still has the outlines of its pre-Roman peoples and tribes. So will post-United States America have the imprint of pre-collapse societies.
Roman rise and decline covered a span of two thousand years, from Ruma’s start as a cluster of iron age villages to the final demise of Constantinople in the 15th Century.
Given that the USA is two oceans apart, connected to the southern continent by a narrow land bridge, I would expect the trajectory to also be long and messy. Can it take centuries? I think so. I think you can have geographic appendages calling themselves the United States and shadow institutions going through the motions of governing just like the Roman Senate that still met into the seventh Century long after the last western Roman emperor skedaddled. You still have remnants in the form of the Pontifex Maximus, the Roman Catholic Church whose priests use religious garb resembling that of Roman officials 1500 years ago.
But there’s no sustaining the unsustainable so a lot goes bye-bye. The template is taking shape. You can see some parts of the country submerging into blood spattered opioid stupor-doms administered by gun-wielding narco-crats. And others – out of an urge for self preservation, dispensing with pieties about “diversity” and “inclusion” and, a la Sam Goldman, “including out” a lot of people deemed unsuitable for the new polity. Stay tuned.
It was always pathetically stupid for the US to pump money into that south Asian piss-hole commonly referred to as Pakistan. Moronic to be conducting military operations in Afghanistan against a tribal people (Pushtun) that have got safe haven in Pakistan. Utterly retarded for foreign policy heavyweights to deplore Trump’s calling out what is obvious to everyone. They say that China pumps billions into Pakistan. So what. Let them. Give Pakistan to China wrapped in a bow. Giving money to Pakistan isn’t buying “influence”, it’s inviting ridicule. If this is the best of the foreign policy establishment, it’s time to roll up the carpet. They’re doing more harm than good. We know how to do this sez Leon Panetta. No, replies Andrew Bacevich, addressing the blindingly obvious, we DON’T know how to do this.
A failed Pakistan should scare the hell out of China, just as a collapsed Mexico would scare us. So they need to pump in the billions.
Us? Not so much.
I don’t think the PLA wants to move in, either; no matter how repressive the Xi government might be in exterminating the fanatics, they’d have a nuclear arsenal to secure and some of it would be used on them.
Exactly, not so much. The level of national narcissism in the US never ceases to amaze. What happens in the world has got so little to do with Americans. Can you picture Pakistanis spending days and nights dwelling on Washington’s latest policy pronouncements? They’ve got immediate issues of their own. For one, that have a bitter, nuclear-armed adversary to their south, for another, wealthy Pakistanis have got an impoverished and aggrieved multitude to keep their eye on, for another, the Pakistani political establishment have got the Taliban as rivals. IOW the Pakistanis have got worries and priorities of their own. They’re not going to do Washington’s bidding. Washington can say what it likes and pump billions in and barely move the needle.
China, India, Iran and Pakistan are cheek by jowl in that neighborhood. Their business and family and military relationships are what matter. NOT the United States.
Imagine is we have viable borders and could just ignore Mexico? Amazing idea, huh?
All foreign aid is theft from the American People. They Elite are using us as an ATM, giving gifts of cash to get access to new markets.
I agree. By the same token, all foreign US military installations should be shut down and the troops expelled immediately. Then exploitative US based multinationals’ foreign contracts, often negotiated at the point of a gun, should be renegotiated or canceled unilaterally by the host countries as well. For our own good, of course!
In 1978 I read the book The Narcissistic American. It took forty years to seal our fate. And as anyone who had a rudimentary knowledge of psychology, narcissists are immune to therapy let alone actual change. Selfies, tweets, bat shit crazy people arguing with back shit crazy people and no one listens, they only wait to interject their “ proof”. Remember , this is a country who believed that an incremental change in the height of a tailfin held the key to happiness .
It would be worth cheering the fate of the nincompoop but his fall, be it from a burst aneurysm during a tantrum or heart attack from too much junk food, may well pull us over Niagara Falls with him.
I’ll quote JHK at length here:
“The United States is the wealthiest nation in the history of the world, yet its inhabitants are strikingly unhappy. Accordingly, we present to the rest of mankind, on a planet rife with suffering and tragedy, the spectacle of a clown civilization. Sustained on a clown diet rich in sugar and fat, we have developed a clown physiognomy. We dress like clowns. We move about a landscape filled with cartoon buildings in clownmobiles, absorbed in clownish activities. We fill our idle hours enjoying the canned antics of professional clowns… Death, when we acknowledge it, is just another pratfall on the boob tube. Bang! You’re dead!”
So we get what we deserve. Led by a professional clown, “Bang” seems to be our fate, as we already whimper enough.
Exactly. Man is a fallen being and not being able to withstand prosperity is the best proof of it. He needs religion, something to believe in beyond himself. Few can be good without it. And God will not smile upon a Land who do not praise His Name and chant his Naam.
Actually, you’re a fallen “being” (ok, thing) Janos, although no one’s quite sure from what. But whatever it is, I’m damn sure it’s not smiling about it.
Why would God want such ridiculous attentions or pay the slightest attention to them. Surely His ego is not as needly as Donald Trump’s.
Our host makes vizier sound like a dirty word. But then everything the US touches becomes corrupt. The whole world has awakened to the truth that the US is the #1 state sponsor of terrorism and the cause of wars since WWII (and I suspect of the first two wars, although I don’t know history very well). The world is aware the US is an empire of lies and evil intent, that it destroys countries to steal it’s gold bullion and it’s natural resources (including human resources in the form of cheap labor). This is why the world is forming economic alliances that exclude the USD. The world is isolating the US.
The #1 main purpose of the US, from its very beginning, has been to steal. The founding fathers got the masses to fight and die for “democracy” and “freedom” so they could steal English assets in the colonies and stop paying tribute. The noble principles that are the putative backbone of the USA are a fiction, used to disguise the genocide and theft committed against the original Americans, but now against the weak nations of the world.
The evil of the US is becoming common knowledge in the world, and this knowledge is spreading to all the world’s citizens. The isolation of this country is the consequence, and the coming collapse of the empire of chaos is fitting.
The world is smarter than the US. It knows that US collapse will hurt them economically, so it is doing everything gradually, avoiding military confrontation, giving the US daily opportunities to play nice, always extending the hand of partnership. The US always rejects that hand, which ensures that it’s self-imposed isolation will continue. If it were to respect other nations, the US could reverse course, but murder and theft are in its DNA, and it can no more become a respectful nation than Jim’s peccary can become Bambi.
The whole world has awakened to the truth that the US is the #1 state sponsor of terrorism and the cause of wars since WWII…
Great post, but credit where credit is due: The US is the number one generator of state sponsored terrorism since WWII. Yes, like everything else capitalist these days, we’ve taken to outsourcing a lot of it lately through sweet sponsorship deals, but don’t sell the Black Ops community short. They’re still doing much of the gruntwork themselves as well.
Yes, and Germany was the first victim of “Gotham” or The New World Order.
Germany was a very successful trial run for what we have now. Trouble was, the little impulsive mustachioed guy in charge wasn’t much of a strategist and his marketing skills were still a bit primitive. Not to worry: all of that’s been fixed now.
I must say that the struggle with Hillary and other threats of nuclear war, despite their apocalyptic nature, is a tactic, it’s a ripple on the water, but the relationship with Iran and the Kurds in conjunction with the transfer of the American embassy to the Israeli capital Jerusalem is a strategy, these are deep currents, and since we are still living in the era of global dominance of the West, this is a World Project!
The thermonuclear fire has nothing to do with the purifying fire of the Second Coming, and since two days later it would be good for Orthodox Christians to remember that on the their actions depends the response to the question of whether the expulsion of the Jews from the Holy Land has ended, that is, what place in the Holy Scripture it is written about us.
And any US president guided by the true American interests should act not only for improvement relations with Russia, but also for increasing pressure on Iran to force it to recognize the state of Israel and establish diplomatic relations with it.
The tax reform that Trump miraculously managed to pass through the Senate and Congress in the last days of 2017 is undoubtedly Trump’s greatest victory and a masterpiece of world politics for the following reasons (most important last):
1. It is part of the plan to revive the American economy, which the new Cold War with Russia is incompatible with, since the current US position fundamentally differs from the situation in which it was in 1946. Then the US, as a country issuing the world currency, were on the ascending curve, that is, the dollar pyramid expanded, and now it is shrinking.
And it does not shrink in connection with any actions of Russia, but in connection with the fact that after the collapse of the USSR, the US has already reached the maximum of the dollar zone, extending it to the whole planet, and now any war can not help the American economy get out of the crisis of competitiveness.
2. Inside the tax reform, Obamacare is being reformed, since it cancels the individual mandate – the most unpleasant point of Obamacare, which may have been built into the law by Hillary Clinton precisely for its failure, or, perhaps, needed at the initial stage of the reform.
But now, when the Treasury began to receive taxes from the amounts that companies used to buy health insurance for their employees and write them off their taxes, its cancellation has already allowed Trump to equate it with Obamacare and declare it canceled. And all the positive features of Obamacare are now in Trumpcare, which really becomes a key part of his tax reform and his plan to withdraw the US economy from the crisis of overproduction of debts. After all, we are talking about two trillion dollars EVERY 5 years of additional income to the budget!
3. Now try guessing who got those 2 trillion every 5 years for 25 years before Trump’s tax reform?
Ah, you are a smart one indeed – the flying monkeys of Hillary Clinton, since it was in 1992 that she was declared the “Tzar” of medical reform.
In fact, we are talking about even larger amounts, which the group supporting HillBilly Clinton had lost, but this will be discussed in another post. And in this post it will be a question of a golden cap in 2 * (25/5) = 10 trillion dollars – a very convincing argument to subordinate the entire population of the flying monkeys in North America to Hillary!
Opaque as ever, Finc! That Afghani black tar was some good shit, eh?
But I gather from all this mumbo jumbo that you’re definitely a Zionist at least, so that explains a lot.
Personally, I’d worry less about how the US is going to convince anyone to get on board with the Israeli train, as the US is growing less and less influential in the world everyday; and a lot more on how Israel is going to remain a going concern once they’ve milked Uncle Sugar dry good and proper and actually have to fund, build, and maintain their own defense in a region and world that is rapidly catching onto the true nature of their Zionist bullshit.
Scratch, you suffer from what I call a “dry tap syndrome” – if there’s no water in the tap, Jews drank it all up!
Of course not silly Finc. They sold it with an obscene markup first!
Now get back to your bong!
His posts are all convoluted psy-ops to the effect that Jews are the real Christians and founders of Western Civilization and that Whites should commit collective suicide.
Talk about convoluted!
The loss of funding of such magnitude is, of course, a terrible blow, and the Flying Monkeys will be recovering from it long enough, but Hillary herself has already dealt a series of preemptive and retaliatory strikes:
For example the loss of Roy Moore in Alabama and the quarrel of Trump with his main strategist – Steve Bannon over this.
Or the supply of arms to Ukraine: the sale of large-caliber rifles to Ukraine is possibly Trump himself, but anti-tank Javelins is a typical artistry of the State Department = Hillary Clinton. Well, or the New Year attack on the Russian airbase Khemeymim – there’s no need to guess who is behind this – it’s enough to remember the New Year’s greetings of the Russian Federation, handed over to 150 Russian diplomats with families on December 29, 2016.
It is easy enough to distinguish one from another – all it is necessary to see how the incident is used by the American media in the investigation of the relations between Trump’s election campaign and Russians by Mueller’s commission. And Trump only reacts so far, but he reacts all over the frontlines.
In particular, Manafort’s appeal to the court with a complaint that Papa Mueller took him up on charges was out of touch with the official mandate of his commission to investigate Trump’s relations with the Russians.
And the fact that in response to this complaint the very next day Congress concluded a deal with the DOJ on the verification of the limits of Mueller’s investigation says not only about the removal of Clintonoids from the leadership of the Republican Party and the increased influence of Trump after the adoption of tax reforms, but also about the serious concerns regarding targeting by Russian S-300 radars of American fighters in Syria, because Trump understands that Putin will no longer forgive him on the grounds that it’s not him, but Hillary Clinton.
And judging from the fact that Hillary Clinton, in response to this threat, went on a frank attempt at a coup ala “Trump gone nuts” that seems to have just been suppressed in New York and Washington, Putin let Trump know that only a prison cell or a chair for the culprit of all casus belli can satisfy Russia.
And Bastinda intercepted this conversation, and from this, in turn, it follows that Putin intended her to listen in.
And what persuaded her to go to the extreme measures is that Putin hinted in sufficiently transparent way, that he will not think twice before using nuclear weapons in Syria.
In short, Happy New Year, Monkeys!
You don’t have to like Trump to believe that he has been treated very unfairly by the press, the powers-that-be, the military industrial complex, the deep state, whatever you choose to name it. The long knives were out for him the moment he was declared the victor over the massively corrupt Hillary Clinton. We’ll never know if Trump meant what he said about wanting better relations with Russia, which could have changed the world, because the forces colluded to ensure that that was not about to happen. Does anyone think that the True Rulers of this godforsaken country were about to give the Keys to the Kingdom over to an amateur who wanted the War Party to do a 180?
Personally, I wish that Trump had been given half a chance. Unlike most other newly sworn in presidents, he was not given the traditional 100-day honeymoon. Hell, he was not given one day. Now candidate Trump has been broken. And this sinking country is much the poorer for it.
Just after my prior post I happened to read David Stockman’s latest @ antiwar.com. Titled “The War Party’s Desperate Assault on America First.” It begins: “The major – perhaps only – redeeming virtue of the Donald’s ersatz campaign platform was his clear intent to seek a rapprochement with Russia…”
Stockman goes on to say that Trump was never given a chance, exactly what I’ve been saying, though Stockman makes the argument much more lucidly than I. Those who love waking up to another day of the media crudely mocking our legally elected president should ruminate on what Stockman says.
If the Oligarchs can depose the legally elected government of Ukraine without batting an eye, or crying a tear over the thousands killed, why not do the same here? They think their coup of Trump will be bloodless, but they could be wrong. Why Mr. Trump, huge ego and all, even went after the job in a country as evil as ours is a mystery to me.
Are you talking about this man?
‘”You get a black swan in the old days, or maybe you get an orange swan now, the one in the Oval Office who can’t seem to stop tweeting and distracting the whole process from accomplishing anything,” Stockman said of President Donald Trump.
‘Stockman argued [September 2017] that President Donald Trump’s business-friendly tax reform bill, which was unveiled Wednesday, won’t prevent a damaging sell-off. He previously said Wall Street is “delusional” for believing it will even be passed.
‘”This is a fiscal disaster that when they [Wall Street] begin to look at it, they’ll see it’s not even remotely paid for. This bill will go down for the count,” said Stockman.’
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/29/david-stockman-tax-reform-plan-is-pipe-dream-stocks-to-plunge-40-70-percent.html
Stockman, “The Father of Reaganomics”, is greatly responsible for the mess we are in. He did try to half-apologize for it with a half-rationalization. Then Reagan took him to the woodshed. It seems to have permanently scrambled Stockman’s mind. I tried to read one of his latest columns. It was like something that came out of a collaboration between Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin.
We need David Stockman like we need lead poisoning.
David Stockman comes across as a brilliant man who is always wrong but never in doubt.
His extremely bearish views on certain stocks and the market in general as expressed in a put buying strategy have cost me $40-$50K over 2-3 years. My last 7 put holdings (all in the red) expire Jan 19 at which point my nightmare ends.
He also thinks investors in Bitcoin are stupid which tempts me to go long.
Q,
It appears that a rich man like yourself can afford it. Personally, I don’t know a put from a call. And Bears like Stockman are all eventually correct, as they were in 2008. But just like JHK and his predictions, it’s hard to get the timing right or know when to get out of the market. As for Bitcoin, it appears that Stockman and our host are in synch.
A Trump apologist. You deserve whatever comes of this fucking mess. I know, I know, Hitler was misunderstood too.
That’s right Capt, he was. By the same kind of yellow journalism, owned by the same Tribe of People. The strange thing is that Trump loves the Jews and many of the top ones love him too. Division in the Tribe? Or a Psy-Op on everyone even themselves?
Trump loves anyone who can make him money. And who agree not to kill him, of course, too.
Janos, don’t strain your mental powers trying to figure out that puzzle – just stick to the basic clear-cut racism.
LOL! Zing! Did you just pop back into lucidity for a brief moment there, Finc?
“Why was a celebrity journalist like Wolff, a known liar per sources I’ve read…”
Wolff did not lie about the president, who is known to be litigious. If anything Wolff said is not true, the president could sue him. But Wolff did not lie, so Trump did not sue. Time for Trump to put up or shut up.
Once again, the denizens of the red states have expressed their collective wisdom. The first time was with “W”, and now it’s Trump. The triumph of ignorance is complete. We have elected a man who is mentally unfit to run this country. With the exception of the right wing media, everything you read confirms this truth. Don’t believe me? Tell you what, I’ll let the future happenings speak for me, and I doubt that I’ll be proven wrong. The problem is, my kids are gonna have to live through this shit. What we used to think was normal is falling by the wayside. Other than chaos, I can’t imagine what is going to impact us.
I am happy to inform you one way tickets to North Korea have been prepared for you and your children.
…and I am on the way to ensure y’all make the flight.
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I would go, but I don’t think you can get any colveve there.
covfefe.
Richard M. Nixon was an excellent orator that was exceptionally well educated unlike that excrement that is stuck to your shoe in the Whore House stinking up the joint like some sort of cleanest dirty shirt in the collective political closet of choice in ‘Merica today. Frankly, when it came to affairs of state, and especially Foreign Affairs, Tricky Dick was a ray of political light compared to the GGG.
Tricky Dick had the political gravitas to close the gold window, and usher in the Petrodollar, before ‘Merica circled the bowl in Chapter 11 Bankruptcy back in 1971. Orange Jesus Cheeto-head-in-chief thinks DOW 25,000, and nosebleed stock market valuations, are the stuff of legendary leadership at the Whore House helm. Unlike Nixon, Cheeto-head-in-chief, is semi-literate, and cannot read an entire book due to the fact that he lesioned his A-10 Dopaminergic pathways in his atrophied Alzheimer’s riddled Central Nervous System which resulted in a permanent state of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder-ADHD.
Nixon was also a true politician in the true sense of the word whereas Orange Jesus Cheeto-head-in-chief is merely a wannabe stooge in direct comparison. Tricky Dick was undoubtedly one of the slimiest pieces of shit to ever walk the world stage of politics, but there is no God-damned way that he was as bad as Trump, or anywhere near as fucked up psychologically.
P.S. I’m not a Nixon apologist, and the Vietnam War was pure evil.
RW
the Vietnam War was pure evil
Why than you are calling Nixon “slimiest pieces of shit to ever walk the world stage of politics” when he was the one to end it?
I guess you are one of the many who lives under the slogan everything in life is shit, except the urine
everything in life is shit, except the urine
Clever.
Why [than] you are calling Nixon “slimiest pieces of shit to ever walk the world stage of politics”
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But Finc gets a pass since English is not his first language.
Political consciousness ended the Vietnam War when the hippies & peaceniks demanded Nixon’s impeachment. The Peace Movement was responsible for Nixon’s ouster.
I majored in Personality Theory for my Honours B.A. in Experimental Psychology, Fincaln TheMountains. Psychoanalytically, the characterization you leave of ‘life’ being ‘shit’ & ‘urine’, via the defence mechanism of Projection, is telling.
RW
Telling you what? It’s a common Russian joke.
Psychoanalyze that!
Hippies & peaceniks ended the Vietnam war? Like hell they did!
That’s just American urban legend, i.e. propaganda – just like the Watergate Affair being the apotheosis of the Jeffersonian Democracy, and not a CIA special operation staring Hillary Clinton as the Deep Throat.
Just ask Karl – he still remembers the corresponding skill of the very special agent.
http://s3-origin-images.politico.com/2013/05/13/130513_carl_bernstein_ap_605.jpg
The Carl Bernstein I remember from, All The President’s Men, starring Robert Redford, & Dustin Hoffman, is not the same guy. I prefer the Hollywood movie version instead.
RW
“…when he was the one to end it?…” You win the blue ribbon for the most outrageous and specious post of the day.
Although Nixon was president when US participation in the Vietnam War ended, he got that office by extending that war by many years and an incomprehensible amount of suffering and death which continues today. Google Nixon Vietnam treason.
For example, have you ever seen pictures of Vietnamese babies with birth defects caused by Agent Orange?
Your post is nauseating, vile and intolerable. Instead of writing your interminable, incomprehensible screeds here, you ought to spend your time reading history.
‘Why than you are calling Nixon “slimiest pieces of shit to ever walk the world stage of politics” when he was the one to end it?’
Well sir I refer you to the recent revelations that Nixon committed treason by sabotaging an early end to the war in the late 1960s, behind the back of the government, in order to give him a better shot at the White House.
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-vietnam-treason
‘He ended the War’ (along with Henry W.C. Kissinger) is a free pass the creep does not deserve. Several hundred thousand dead Vietnamese and Americans, along with those still suffering from the effects of Agent Orange, napalm and other ‘Made in USA’ delights, would also beg to differ.
…And let’s not leave out that little matter of bombing Cambodia without the knowledge of anyone in the supposed “civilian authority”. About 2.7 *million tons*. More tonnage than the whole of WWII. Another stupid fucker that thought he could kill people into agreeing with him. What did the shithead term it? Peace with honor? HONOR?? Deceit, mass murder, megalomania, Kissinger…… there is no “honor” here, only horror and a terrible lesson — unlearned still.
At best, Finca is a delusional fantasist and revisionist, deserving to be ignored. At worst? Who the fuck knows (or really cares).
That is a good article, SpeedyBB:
“…In the four years between the sabotage and what Kissinger termed ‘peace at hand’ just prior to the 1972 election, more than 20,000 US troops died in Vietnam. More than 100,000 were wounded. More than a million Vietnamese were killed.
“But in 1973, Kissinger was given the Nobel Peace Prize for negotiating the same settlement he helped sabotage in 1968.
“According to Parry, LBJ wanted to go public with Nixon’s treason. But Clark Clifford, an architect of the CIA and a pillar of the Washington establishment, talked Johnson out of it. LBJ’s close confidant warned that the revelation would shake the foundations of the nation.
“In particular, Clifford told Johnson (in a taped conversation) that ‘some elements of the story are so shocking in their nature that I’m wondering whether it would be good for the country to disclose the story and then possibly have [Nixon] elected. It could cast his whole administration under such doubt that I think it would be inimical to our country’s best interests.’
“In other words, Clifford told LBJ that the country couldn’t handle the reality that its president was a certifiable traitor, eligible for legal execution.”
Here is another one:
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/09/08/fleshing-out-nixons-vietnam-treason/
“…However, Nixon’s sabotage of Johnson’s peace talks although it may have extended the war for four years and caused the deaths of some 20,000 U.S. soldiers and a million Vietnamese never received the attention that the Watergate cover-up did. Nor has Official Washington ever come to grips with the new evidence suggesting that the two scandals were actually one.
“…Building on the investigative work of Robert Parry and other researchers, Ken Hughes has written a well-documented, incisive and hard-hitting book. He takes us up close to a man who never should have been president and who appears to have gotten into the White House through an act approaching treason. Nixon then lied about the crime for the rest of his life.”
But, I tell you as sure as there is a yesterday, today, and tomorrow, those stock indexes, grand as they seem, are teetering on the brink of something awesomely sickening. And when they go over that no-bid Niagara cascade into the maelstrom, Mr. Trump’s boat will be going over the falls with them. –JHK
Wiser words never spoken!
148,000 new jobs in the month of December, instead of 190,000 expected.
62.7% labor force participation rate
The economy is in trouble. Dow is in prime pre-cash bubble territory.
Boss, everything is lost!!! Cast is getting removed, the client leaves!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMzK306-j4
Already have.
The Long Emergency is very real for the acolytes of Kunstler who have followed Jim’s failed predictions.
In the New Republic, we’re well armed, well trained, and well sustained.
Losers who quote losers from gossip columns are living in the depths of the Long Emergency and desperation.
…and censuring validates their level of losing…….
Don’t like the country you’re living in?
Great!!
We have prepared one way tickets to North Korea and Venezuela especially for you.
….and I’m am the chosen one to serve the ticket in person.
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My advice – pick Venezuela, women are a lot prettier there.
Excellent point!
We will show mercy to the ingrates and offer the choice of destination…..
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How do I join? How many Blacks do you have? America was only meant for “us and our progeny” – Whites!
Confucius say, internet tuff guy equal real-life yellabelly.
I think Confucius might be on to something there.
Likewise, Janos might really be the beautiful progeny of a handsome Arabian prince and a stunning Nubian princess. And perversely unable to cope with the wonder he sees in the mirror every morning, so he denies it vehemently.
GA, you may be right. I have urged janos to do DNA testing to determine if he has any white ancestry, but his fear of discovering Black ancestry will not permit him.
https://www.top10bestdnatesting.com/
Given that (as I mentioned once before) there is respectable historical evidence that the Queen (ours) is descended from Muhammad, you just never know.
I’m not remotely into the racial purity mumbo jumbo but I’ve occasionally been tempted to get one of these DNA testing kits out of idle curiosity. Apparently, for instance, when they did DNA tests in Iceland, they discovered that 60% of the women were descended from Scots – taken on an involuntary magical mystery tour by the Vikings.
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/iceland/icelandic_women.htm
Things like that are always interesting to find out.
I did. No surprises – 100% Northern European right back to the Ice Ages and Atlantis.
Janos,
You now have TWO women fighting over you. I’m SOO jealous!
Yes Green – the Vikings doomed themselves thereby. Right smack in the middle of their struggle against Christendom, they started giving their kids Christian names. The power of women back on the home front – women stolen by the very Vikings.
Too objectively focused on the outer world and its conquest. Other things matter just as much or more. They couldn’t have conquered Christendom in any case, but maybe they could have held their own if they had marshaled their resources, both inner and outer.
outsider
I don’t think fighting *over* Janos quite gives an accurate picture 🙂
As I’ve said before, though, I’m toying with the idea that in real life, Janos is just someone’s cuddly favourite uncle who feeds his neighbours’ cats when they’re on holiday, even the ones whose cat’s called Ahmed.
“I did. No surprises – 100% Northern European right back to the Ice Ages and Atlantis.”
Sounds so tediously dull when you put it like that. I hope mine’s more interesting if I ever get round to checking it out.
ARE YOU GONNA BARK ALL DAY, LITTLE DOGGIE, OR ARE YOU GONNA BITE??
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I’ll short Captain America & the New Republic by inviting them to CANADA instead.
RW
You’re drinking your own koolaid Kunstler! For gods sake try to get some information from somewhere other then the USOP (US Office of Propaganda), i.e. the NY Times and such. There is such a stink surrounding Comey, the FBI, the Justice department, etc. you would think you would write something about those obvious issues. For christ’s sake our beloved prior FBI director leaked out 7 classified memos through some college professor to the FBI. The FBI accepted a dossier PAID FOR BY THE DNC as the proof that the then democratic president needed to spy on the Trump campaign. Something is PROFOUNDLY wrong and it has little to do with Trump. What you are seeing is the real ‘Deep State’ in a back lash against a legitimately elected president.
try to get some information from somewhere other [then] the USOP – paul
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Agreed. Rule of Law is gone. Reasonableness is rampant. All politicians and citizenry have lost their moral compass. Our government, our country, our media, our corps, are all degraded and fake. We live in a fake world now. Truth and integrity have dove out of sight never to be seen again. That’s the new normal.
GOT TRUTH??
http://www.got-truth.com/
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Kunstler is a censuring loving clown masquerading as a pseudo-intellectual nitwit.
However, he and his acolytes are truly living in the Long Emergency for themselves and their cursed progeny.
…and the forecast for them and the old republic is death, doom, depravity, and destruction for the balance of their meager existence.
In the New Republic, all good people in the arena enjoy resuming the restoration of the Constitutional republic from JFK’s point of interruption, can see for miles and miles, and enjoy Liberty in building out properties and the local means of production, with the capability to sow, nurture, grow, harvest, store, cook, engineer, design, program, automate, construct, process, raise, teach, counsel, hunt, defend, provide, debate, organize, compose, perform, worship, dance, laugh, love, celebrate, and sustain. Members enjoy a career in methods of spontaneous cooperation in the discovery and development of processes that achieve a well-defined whole.
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I thank you for that, Captain. It led me to the Wikipedia article on Heaven’s Gate:
“…According to Applewhite’s writings, the two met in the psychiatric hospital where she worked during his stay there and quickly became close friends. Applewhite later recalled that he felt like he had known Nettles for a long time and concluded that they had met in a past life. She told him their meeting had been foretold to her by extraterrestrials, persuading him that he had a divine assignment…”
I look forward to reading the rest of it.
“In the New Republic, all good people in the arena enjoy resuming the restoration of the Constitutional republic from JFK’s point of interruption, can see for miles and miles, and enjoy Liberty in building out properties and the local means of production, with the capability to sow, nurture, grow, harvest, store, cook, engineer, design, program, automate, construct, process, raise, teach, counsel, hunt, defend, provide, debate, organize, compose, perform, worship, dance, laugh, love, celebrate, and sustain. Members enjoy a career in methods of spontaneous cooperation in the discovery and development of processes that achieve a well-defined whole.”
Sweet Jesus…make it stop….
True wisdom is understanding the depth of one’s ignorance.
Censorship of truth is the desperate attempt of losers to retain power.
Your ballroom days are over.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/npz866gq084fe3l/OUR%20creation.pdf?dl=0
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“Your ballroom days are over.”
Soon, I expect, the Sheepdogs will come a-snarlin’…
GOP Senators Recommend Criminal Investigation Of Trump Dossier Author
It’s the Judiciary Committee’s first public criminal referral in the Russia investigation.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-christopher-steele_us_5a4fccb4e4b003133ec7aa4a?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
The 25th Amendment “Palace Coup” has been suppressed!!
Happy New Year, Monkeys!
Ah, the “melancholy” of the not-yet spiritually, mentally, and, especially . . . physically hunkered-down, SIMPLIFIED, inland RURAL. The first symptom/inkling of a really bad case of “super-DIScomfort/DISease” about to ravage the [DISTRACTED,UNaware/UNprepared] “citYzens/coasters”. So it was, so it IS, so it will be . . . . . .
Holy moly it’s a mess.
Rule of Law is gone. Reasonableness is rampant. All politicians and citizenry have lost their moral compass. Our government, our country, our media, our corps, are all degraded and fake. We live in a fake world now. Truth and integrity have dove out of sight never to be seen again. That’s the new normal.
Boss, everything is lost!!! Cast is getting removed, the client leaves!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMzK306-j4
I have never understood why conversating with Russia is treasonous. It breaks no laws and I can’t see why talking to a citizen of Russia is any different, from any point of view, than talking to a citizen of New Caledonia. –K-Dog
Your canine innocence is charming. One, or two, phone calls by a secretary-of-state-elect would be understandable, but there were at least 12 Trump associates who had contacts with Russians during the campaign or transition. There were at least 19 face-to-face interactions with Russians or Kremlin-linked figures. There were at least 51 communications — meetings, phone calls, email exchanges and more. Contacts with New Caledonia? Zero. Zip. Zilch.
If their “conversating” during the campaign was legal, why have there been at least NINE BLANKET DENIALS from Trump world OF ANY CONTACTS with Russia?
Perhaps you can explain it to me?
No, but I can.
Your favorite female candidate brought things with Russia to a brink of a nuclear conflict by trying to arrest 150 Russian diplomats and members of their families, so the Trump transition team was too busy avoiding the conflict ala President Kennedy during Caribbean Missile Crisis.
You should be grateful.
janet,
You caught k-dog on “conversating.” But you said “phone calls by a secretary-of-state-elect.” I wasn’t aware that there is any such animal.
I see a lot of spewing of bile here today. Is the weather finally getting to everyone? Lord knows, I’m disgusted with the general populace and the elites. But, dammit, America is my country, and I don’t like to see such a barrage of disparagement. We may not practice it like we should, but we have liberty formally written into our founding document. Tell me any other country created on that principle.
As long as we have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as our foundational philosophy, America is worth saving.
Thank you, Bill, for your concern, but let me assure you that I am just fine in the Caribbean enjoying mild 28 degrees evening.
I wish you were here!
That would be 301.15 Kelvin.
In South Florida the Iguanas fall from the trees as it is too cold and they lose their grip.
“I wish you were here”
Reminds my of a wry postcard message I once heard:
Weather is here. Wish you were lovely.
Sorry my friend. The system is broken and irreparable. Infected deeply by a contagion of crime and corruption and incompetence. There will be a reset. Probably not in our lifetimes but soon.
Apparently, the idea that Poverty causes Criminality is specious. In reality, it is Criminality that causes Poverty. The Blacks have a “Gangsta” culture. You could keep the blacks down (way down) if you give them a crappy gangsta culture? And then program everyone into thinking that criticism of criminal gangsta culture is “racist”.
The only Gangsta Rap that I like is “Vanilla”.
Who is that weird-looking Russian Rapper who appeared in that video with the Hot Russian chick who’s going to run against Putin in the next election? She’s “Smoke’n”!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE
During the Spelling Bee, the Chinese judge wanted to rig the competition in favor of the Chinese kid, so he asked the white Christian kid to spell the word “Cheeses”.
What I heard is he asked the kid to spell “Opium Wars”.
When asked about the Chinese kid winning the Spelling Bee over the white Christian kid, Trump remarked:
“We always lose to the Chinese. We have bad trade deals with the Chinese. I don’t blame the Chinese. I would have done the same. I’m a Winner. I know how to Win.”
It ends in collapse with extinction. On a personal level it can end quickly or with prolonged suffering, a bang or a whimper. When the lights go out the universe if it feels anything would be glad that we are gone,as does the polar bear. In our state of non reality dysfunction we fucked up every thing, so don’t be fooled face reality, humans are on the path of life extinction. Bundle up.
What do you mean by a collapse? And how does that end in our extinction?
Collapse is when you turn on the light switch and it remains dark. Collapse is when when you eat your last can of beans and there is no place to go because your car doesn’t have enough gas to get you back. When Mother Nature removes sufficient habitat via abrupt climate change it is a matter of starvation suicide or predation. In the meantime stay comfortable.
Cars with no gas will be the least of it. Collapse for me will be when you turn on the tap and there’s no water. Not even cold. And obviously none in the cistern to flush the toilet. Sadly, my garden (shared with another 7 households) doesn’t have deep enough soil to build a composting loo.
It will come as a shock to people, if this all pans out, to find out that the army isn’t going to rock up with trucks full of Evian in plastic bottles in perpetuity.
I don’t live that far from the sea, and only 50 yards from the Union Canal (which you wouldn’t want to fall in, let alone drink from).
“Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink…”
“Water, water everywhere, [and not a] drop to drink…” – GreenAlba
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Just about everyone gets this wrong. It’s actually:
“Water, water, every where,. [Nor any] drop to drink.”
Thanks Q! I do remember that, now that you mention it. I’ll try to remember it when the water in the taps stops flowing. Well, I won’t need to, actually, because it will be easy to locate on my bookshelves, not too far from ‘The Survivor’s Manual’ or something similar. I’m not sure how much of it I’ll be able to read before my kidneys and other vital organs conk out, though. It’s a pretty long poem.
Although a poetry binge might be a good way to go, along with a bottle of Hendrick’s and the last cans of slimline tonic. Outside, even, so that hypothermia can gently lull me away as the alcohol dilates my blood vessels…
Donald J.Trump is not going anywhere, except to presidential functions, Air Force One flight, meetings, golf outings, state dinners and the usual activities for the American Chief Executive.
Should the Democrats sweep the mid-term election, which I doubt, but anything can happen, and the machinery is somehow engaged in 2019 for removal action via the 25th Amendment or impeachment with a conviction ( as I recall Bill Clinton was impeached for his Celebrity Perv actions and lying about it but didn’t get convicted;) WATCH OUT!
The Noo Yawk City brawler will come right off of his Marine General restraining leash and go for the jugular of his enemies. NO fooling around.
Jeff Sessions should be long gone by the middle of 2018, and the fire and fury will be a Department of Justice that will be mobilized. It will be used as a wrecking ball against all the redoubts of his enemies: the Left, Democrats, and most of all the seemingly untouchable Clintons with their entire retinue starting with Abedin and Wasserman Shultz and ending with the pantsuited Queen of Cackle herself.
The Bannon and Wolf books are just the right publications to start a fresh outbreak of 21st century American biblioclasm.
It is all good and well, but the burning question around Hillary’s house in Chappaqua is – did Bill again attempt to stick her ankle bracelet into microwave oven?
http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/ankle-bracelet.jpg
OK Finc, who’s feeding you material? I’ve never known you to have a sense of humor before.
Captain Russia and Captain America have are joyfully united against the losing globalists…….
….and joyful humor is manifested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQ8xXjfqhg&list=PLl55Zh3U2VW7YD-JKHT0vYIk1ZCrK7c4-&index=15
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CA,
I don’t usually open links, but I’m glad I did this time. That little ditty really lifted my spirits.
Didn’t Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, Jr. have incorrigible childhoods?
“Approaching adolescence, Tom seldom sought permission for anything and refused to say where he was going when he left the house. Mr. and Ms. Patterson felt more like police officers than parents. At the time his mother first met with me, she reported, “He goes into my room whenever he pleases, steals money from my purse, and throws away things that are not his.” She and her husband began locking their bedroom door, and she was careful to hide her purse. Tom regularly reduced his little brother and sister to tears by fighting with them and breaking their toys. He refused to participate in family activities and, if forced to go along, he would ruin the event. Having a hair-trigger temper, he took offense instantly at any reprimand. On one occasion, he became so enraged that he struck his father while Mr. Patterson was driving to church. By seventeen, Tom had been badgering his parents for a driver’s license for more than a year. When they refused to sign for him to obtain one, Tom launched an ongoing war to wear them down so they would change their minds. The Pattersons were adamant; they would not put innocent people at risk or render themselves liable by allowing their irresponsible son to drive. Lacking a license did not deter Tom. He would sneak out at night, grab his parents’ keys, and cruise around. When the Pattersons discovered their car had been moved overnight, they hid the keys.”
Inside the Criminal Mind
by Stanton Samenow
Watch some one losing his mind right before your eyes:
https://catcherinthelie.wordpress.com/2018/01/05/selfish-prick/
True wisdom is understanding the depth of one’s ignorance.
The real fire and fury is the Clinton home fire occurring on the same day as Hillary’s hit job on Seth Rich.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/26kp2jetoes1fvl/fire%20and%20fury.pdf?dl=0
…..and you’ve got another thing coming.
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Q.,
No thanks.
Perhaps Finca could take over that blog space when Cold-and-Hole-filled (crazed crank and semen-saver) finally cooks off what’s left of his syphilitic brain. That would be nice.
Apparently Chelsea’s been initiated into the coven. She’s been seen wearing an upside down cross.
http://i.magaimg.net/img/ekq.jpg
….and Chelsea sends a happy new year tweet to the church of satan:
https://www.infowars.com/chelsea-clinton-sends-happy-new-year-tweet-to-the-church-of-satan/
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True wisdom is understanding the depth of one’s ignorance.
All in the defiled Clinton family:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w2nokl03nvklrxv/defiled.pdf?dl=0
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It seems that a new, real criminal case has been initiated against Hillary. Trump supporters quietly check the 4-hour readiness for assembly in Militia units.
Clinton Foundation Faces New Justice Department Investigation Over ‘Pay-to-Play’ Politics Allegations
https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-foundation-faces-justice-department-114611800.html
Long live the Second Amendment to the US Constitution!
I’m not a Trump fan but he is getting a bum rap! He isn’t a smooth talker nor mild in temperament, but let us compare him to his predecessors.
From 1998 to 2015, $21 trillion dollars of undocumented adjustments were made at the DOD and HUD. Money flowed from the U.S. Treasury (from FED?ESF?) through the DOD and HUD to somewhere unknown. In other words, this is dark money. Three presidents, Clinton, Obama and Bush, didn’t lift a finger to stop or at least investigate this activity. Report can be read at Dr. Mark Skidmore/Solari Report.
Bush pushed the country into an unnecessary war in Iraq based on the lie of WMD’s. Obama the Nobel Peace Prize winner, killed more people with drone attacks in Pakistan, Yemen, and about everywhere else in the Middle East than his predecessor. American citizens, including an 8 and 16 year-old, were killed by American drones in Yemen. The number of wedding parties and tribal elder meetings that were wiped out is unknown.
Obama chose not to prosecute the TBTF bank fraudsters, who received bailouts from the Fed of roughly $29 trillion dollars, because they threatened to tank the economy again. I guess we aren’t a nation of laws. Oh wait! They got Madoff instead.
Some of Trump’s policies I agree with many I do not, but compared to his predecessors, he doesn’t look too bad.
…….THIS COLOR DOES NOT RUN, IT PURSUES. AND OFFERS DUE PROCESS. AND THERE ARE MILLIONS IN OUR DISTRIBUTED RANKS:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0oxkmjieb4xzzuy/DUE%20PROCESS.pdf?dl=0
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https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/new-york-times-celebrates-sexualization-10-year-old-boy/
People are pretending that they are interested because he’s so great at putting on makeup. If it were only that “innocent” – as if that were innocent. Single mothers are encouraging their sons to be gender fluid, not just accepting it.
All the Old Gods and Cults are returning. Artemis, the Goddess of Feminism. Moloch the God of Child Sacrifice or abortion in our culture and now the Cult of Attis – where young men cut of their genitals and run thru the streets holding them and then offer them to the Goddess.
Janos,
Of course, we’re engaged in a substitute for cutting off the entire genitals – male circumcision, which began as a humane alternative to child sacrifice. Genitally intact feminists are fine with that as it makes men their sexual inferiors – sacrificing their foreskins to the Bitch Goddess in exchange for sex.
“…you said “phone calls by a secretary-of-state-elect.” I wasn’t aware that there is any such animal.” –outsider
The president-elect usually has a nominee in mind for secretary of state. That is the person I am referring to. Tillerson was first recommended to Trump for the Secretary of State role by Condoleezza Rice, during her meeting with Trump in late November, during the transition period, before Trump was sworn in.
In this case on December 12, 2016, Rex Tillerson, CEO of ExxonMobil became the secretary-of-state-elect, officially selected by the president-elect to be the Secretary of State after the president was inaugurated. By electing Trump, Tillerson was secretary-of-state-elect until the huge women’s march happened in Washington, DC.
A peccary here a peccary there, pretty soon you are talking about real pigs in the swamp!.
Jim it seems you’ve come down with a bad case of “Trump Derangement Syndrome”….Again like always you put your predictor in the dirt enough to plow the lower 40. If you take enough shots one day you may predict something of no importance
Again with childish name calling to demean probably the best President ever is shameful for someone hawking books your lowering yourself to the Wolff level.
Trumps accomplishments speak for themselves as a very successful builder, TV show and now President. Why you who voted for a empty suit mulatto twice even speak is about on par with the Clintons who have no shame either. The main story will be the Clintons going down and dragging everyone around them down including the Boyfriend and buddy to you leftist the magical mulatto.
trolleybill: By “probably the best President ever”, are you actually referring to Donald John Trump?
Sam Nunberg, one of his advisors, tried to teach Donald Trump about the constitution. Result: “I got as far as the Fourth Amendment, before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back in his head.” Nunberg later said widely of Trump, “He’s just a fucking fool.”
After a phone call with Trump about immigration, Rupert Murdoch called Trump a “fucking idiot.”
Quote: “For Rex Tillerson, he was a moron. For Gary Cohn, he was dumb as shit. For H.R. McMaster, he was a hopeless idiot. For Steve Bannon, he had lost his mind.”
I could go on, and on, and on. Spare everyone the effort and just watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRGOAkiZZLk
Anyone who spends any time at all in the Trump White House comes away disparaging his intelligence and competence in the most vulgar terms. The only way to have any respect for Donald Trump as president is through some combination of stupidity, desperation, and most important of all, distance from the man himself.
I pity the country that has come to such a pass, and I pity the fool desperate enough to pin their hopes on Donald Trump.
Trump has the right instincts, which counts for a lot. Like the beloved Ronald Reagan, he is a big picture guy. It makes no matter if he knows much about the Constitution. That’s what he has all those advisors for. And a big part of their job is to make the president look good, not go blabbing to the press over his faults. If the president has the right vision, which I think candidate Trump had (but not necessarily President Trump) then the ship of state has a direction. Under the four prior presidents, at least, the ship was badly foundering.
Elrond, your statement is either a blatant lie or simply incorrect about the people that deal directly in the WH with President Trump. I have posted previously as you may recall, an incident when an associate of mine, that I get together with every week twice a week, spoke to me in the highest terms on how intelligent the president is, how well he runs his meetings, and how quickly he absorbs the briefing information that he is presented. This person was on the transition team and now does weekly briefings and everything that I am being told reflects the highest degree of respect and appreciation of the smarts of the president. Sorry, consider your remark corrected.!
Walter,
Do you trust this man to be apolitical in his description? If you do, I would trust his/your judgment.
I won’t pretend to be apolitical, or that I find much to admire in Donald Trump. On the other hand, I’m quite capable of civil discourse and friendliness with people I disagree with politically. There are only two modest requirements: they shouldn’t be too disagreeable personally, and they must be living in a fact-based world. Donald Trump is a vehement failure on both counts.
Baby seals are crying to you for attention…
Maybe Trump is more Harding and less Truman and much less Roosevelt. Recall “To Err is Truman.” Recall also one of FDR’s cabinet members (i don’t remember whom) referred to him as “a third-rate intellect but a first-rate temperament.” And blah blah blah. This has been going on forever. At least GreenAlba is willing to give Trump his four years instead of indulging in smug dismissiveness.
Of more interest is “Fire and Fury.” The phrase appears in Tom Waits’ Way Down in the Hole which was used by The Wire HBO series. The context in the Waits song suggests a biblical reference but google Fire and Fury and all you get (at least on page one — which is the limit of my interest) is the Wolff book.
“At least GreenAlba is willing to give Trump his four years instead of indulging in smug dismissiveness.”
Hello Billy
I’d be lying if I said my reasons were anything to do with admiration for the GGG. I think he’s a walking disaster. I just want total transparency, i.e. he should live or die politically by what he achieves – or breaks – in a full term.
I’m curious as to what will come out of the Russian thing. If Enterprise Trump has been laundering Russian oligarchic cash, then I want it out in the open – at some point – and I want his petulant nose rubbed in it. And I really, really wish those tax returns would come to light too. But I’m patient. I can wait another couple of years. He’s not my president, for starters.
I just wish there was some way it could all be separated from the aspirations of the Dems to impeach him *for anything whatever they can find*.
I don’t even believe in the ‘amazing businessman’ schtick. If he hadn’t inherited his cash, I have no reason to believe he could *legitimately and without unseemly practices, like not paying people who work for him* organise the proverbial piss-up in a brewery. And his towers are grotesque. The gold lift demands a sacrifice to the taste gods.
Yes James – and I do find myself feeling sorry for Trump – he stands alone – I admire that. His policies – some actually make sense – others ?
A slave trader wrote “Amazing Grace”, and slave owner wrote the Declaration of Independence.
I’ll tell you this – real change is happening because the people elected Trump – the people saw the need – Trump answered the call.
Leadership is one tough gig – and my sense is that Trump is actually growing into his job, strange as that sounds.
Yes – a mirror – fragile human beings seeking the truth, as you say.
Character assassination is never a good thing.
We should examine ourselves – and rectify that if possible.
Trump’s wall is visual – its how he manifests. But as the migrations around the world intensify – it is timely to think on ‘walls’.
Merkel found that out – we will all find that out, who live in the liveable spaces in a soon to be largely uninhabitable world.
“But as the migrations around the world intensify – it is timely to think on ‘walls’.”
I’d have thought that as the migrations around the world intensify, the last thing you’d want to do is continue to exacerbate climate change by blowing the tops of mountains to burn coal, and extract yourself from the climate agreement that the rest of the world is engaged in. Because to do so is to increase the intensity of those migrations. Trump disrespectfully disagrees, since he can’t see beyond the end of his wallet.
He thinks exploiting the world’s resources and then pulling up the drawbridge is just fine and dandy. Trump digs coal.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/american-consumption-habits/
But walls won’t save the US from the climate payback of being the biggest consumer and biggest waster on the planet. I have in-laws right on the banks of the Hudson. Their house has the date 1835 on it. The last floods saw all their neighbours’ homes condemned and presumably now demolished. Add the increase in frequency and intensity of wildfires (Australia, oh great coal exporter, look out too – and Fort McMurray, oh the irony…). That’s just the start. How are your aquifers doing?
I am a little surprised that my little accounting math regarding 10 trillion dollars over 25 years that went into the pockets of various health care asshole brokers – various HMOs, PPOs, instead of medical providers – hospitals, nursing homes, doctors and nurses, went totally unnoticed.
Not to say that American medical doctors are not mostly assholes themselves – I know first–hand their billing shenanigans (used to be a medical IT consultant).
And I thought that money is the most important thing in life for you.
There’s a lot of delusional thinking in the USA as Romanmanner sez, not least in the bastions of allegedly rational thought, those being the places and institutions full of people that tell us all the time how smart and evidence-based they are.
Look at the US and what’s been foisted by these supposed intellectuals: they sent the productive capacity of the country to China, giving it the economic wherewithal to become a world power.
AND, if that wasn’t enough, simultaneously impoverishing a great swathe of people in the middle of the USA.
AND, if that wasn’t enough, branding those impoverished Americans as racists and morons.
Brilliant, don’t you think? AND, all the while, painting such bizarrist economic strategies as being the epitome of progress and enlightenment.
The foregoing would be enough to put the USA and its supposedly rational thought-leaders as front-runners in the contest to be history’s biggest laughing-stock. But, sadly, there’s more.
On the international front, these titans of rational thought embroiled the USA in multiple wars with donkey-riding tribesmen and farmers. And lost. Multiple times.
Think of it, the most technologically advanced military, equipped with mega-buck jets and satellites and tanks and rifles against illiterate, impoverished, malnourished, gap-toothed villagers in black pyjamas and turbans and flip-flops. And the villagers win.
Wait, wait, there’s more.
These highly degreed and credentialed people, with long resumes full of high-powered posts in business and government and universities, STILL can’t figure out what powered Trump’s win.
Could Trump have won because he was up against a singularly incompetent, corrupt, criminally negligent, catastrophe-as-usual opponent?
No, Trump’s ascension to the Oval office couldn’t possibly have been the result of decades of abject failure as outlined. Nor could Trump’s win have been because of his opposition; vocal proponents of more calamity.
Nope, it was the Russians, according to our intellectual “betters”.
Are we supposed to laugh at this? Or cry?
Of course it was us, the Russians!
If we in 2014 just bend over and spread wide, Hillary would’ve entered the WH(White House) on a WH(White Horse)
Far be it from a simple mule-skinner like me to get into way-over-my-head issues like separation of church and state.
But I thought the whole idea of this separation was to keep the government’s clammy fist out of church business, regardless of denomination. Maybe I’m wrong.
Now, I’m not the religious sort. But if that’s what you want, have at it. I see no problem with religiously inclined people and organizations weighing in on matters of public import. Maybe it’s just me and some inadequately developed views ( I do after all only have ONE degree), but it does seem that things are veering perilously close to the suppression of religion.
See, the most intelligent of society, as arbiters of thought and attitude, require anyone who aspires to their level to believe a number of impossible to believe fairly tales, things which are on their face laughable. So laughable that they make the accounts given in Genesis sound reasonable.
So, while the religion I’m most familiar with is full of ghosts and magic, it looks to me like the heads of our intellectual elite are full of ghosts and magic too. Different ghosts and magic maybe, but ghosts and magic all the same.
The heads of our intellectual elite are mostly full of cockroaches – just ask any decent entomologist.
They are the ones who fell victim to their own propaganda.
Time to say “we are sorry” and ask E2 (Elizabeth the Second) to take you back!
And I am sure Trump and Bannon have the blessing of Her Majesty.
“And I am sure Trump and Bannon have the blessing of Her Majesty.”
Her Maj has rather more refined tastes, although her stately duties oblige her to shake the hand of some pretty terrible people.
Theresa May’s grovelling and desperately precocious invitation to the GGG to visit us has caused no end of objections. He has already been demoted from the state visit that would see him ride in a golden carriage down The Mall (the kind of grandiosity he lives for – that must be disappointing). It’s becoming a quieter affair by the minute, in its planning.
Re Bannon, I heard him described rather delightfully on the radio this morning as ‘think Michael Douglas, but created by Build-a-Bear’. I know one shouldn’t laugh in such serious times, but it did afford me a few seconds of wry amusement.
Maj was asked and she offered her opinion: Leave the EU.
Maj has no constitutional right to say anything on the subject. Nor does she does have a vote on anything. There was some fake news to the effect that she was pro-Brexit, but it was proved to be exactly that.
Maj has 60-odd years of professional discretion behind her. She does not express her opinions out of turn.
And in any case, Janos, I don’t know why your non-point about Brexit has anything whatever to do with the GGG visiting the UK.
Nevertheless she is a person and has the right to express her opinion if asked. She was and she said she was for Brexit. It’s not anything shameful – most Britons agreed with it after all. Now it’s up to Britain to prove if it’s still a Democracy or not. The whole world is watching.
“Nevertheless she is a person and has the right to express
her opinion if asked.”
Constitutionally she hasn’t. And if she repeatedly makes political pronouncements she will put the monarchy at risk. That’s because, while she might think the monarchy tolerates the people, constitutionally the people tolerate the monarchy. And if they don’t behave themselves, constitutionally speaking, they are likely to find themselves out on their ar*ses.
“It’s not anything shameful…”
No it isn’t – it’s just a bit foolish in the present circumstances. If the EU is one day going to fold, it’s going to fold. It makes no sense whatsoever for a country to stab itself in the foot by leaving before that happens. Ask Yannis Varoufakis. He has written an entire book on the nefarious dealings of the EU, but he still thinks the Brexit vote was insane. Which is it most certainly turning out to be.
” – most Britons agreed with it after all.”
Not any more they don’t. If the Brexiters thought they did they’d be begging for that second referendum, you know, the one some have recommended now that the British electorate actually have some information before them about the effects of withdrawal. But they’re not. They are most definitely not.
“Now it’s up to Britain to prove if it’s still a Democracy or
not. The whole world is watching.”
Most of the world thinks the UK has utterly lost its senses with the Brexit vote (Trumpland is not the whole world.)
Binding referenda are in any case an unconstitutional tool in a representative democracy, which is what the UK is. If the British electorate were to change its mind in a second referendum (not that one is on the cards) how on earth would you argue its result was not the will of the British people?
Even without a further referendum, the primary duty of the UK parliament is to defend the best interests of the British people, not kowtow to a one-off referendum that was legally only advisory in the first place.
Incidentally, Janos, what is your solution to the problem of the Irish border and the maintenance of the peace process, if the UK leaves the Customs Union? Any ideas? Because they’re pretty thin on the ground over here.
oops…unnecessary asterisk as I accidentally inserted the notional missing letter anyway. Ah well, worse things have been printed on these pages.
I would politely disagree.
The British Royalty has a well-established tradition of promoting the most outrageous, and most successful, privateers (pirates, High Sea robbers) into the Admirals of Her Majesty Navy.
That was some time ago, Finca. I totally agree re piracy, but the monarchy wasn’t a constitutional monarchy back then. Then they did as they pleased. Now they are straitjacketed, except that they can spend lots of taxpayers’ money.
Allegedly Elizabeth I used the booty stolen from the Spanish (who stole it from the Incas) to pay off the national debt. She used the remainder to set up the Levant Company, which morphed into the East India Company, which morphed into the British Empire.
Obviously there’s a bit more to it than that 🙂
But you’re right about the royally sanctioned piracy (which, along with other maritime adventures, cost England its oak forests as well). And poor old Raleigh ended up losing his head anyway in the end. His distraught wife had it embalmed and kept it on the mantelpiece. Allegedly. How are the mighty fallen…
“But you’re right about the royally sanctioned piracy”
Alba,
In the Colonies it was represented by letters of “Marque and Reprisal”.
“Now, I’m not the religious sort. But if that’s what you want, have at it. I see no problem with religiously inclined people and organizations weighing in on matters of public import.”
V.,
I possess no degrees or educational credentials whatsoever (other than a high school diploma), but can tell you how to build a septic system and what kind of material it should be contained in. Therefore, I feel eminently qualified to address your concern here. 😉
No problem with believers of all stripes (or polka-dots) helping to work through real-life, down-to-earth problems pertaining to their fellows and their ecosystem. What gives me the “skeeves” is when these same folk insist this, that or the other would please their invisible being[s], regardless of the benefit (for some) or hurt (for others) it might cause. That would be a good reason to keep the two disciplines at a reasonable remove, IMHO.
I do take your point about different shades (pun intended) of woo-woo applied to different “priesthoods”, though.
Point taken about the likes and wants of the invisible, unknowable deity.
Big problem is when issues like the right-to-life or right-to-die or marriage rights become enmeshed in contending religious ideologies.
Liberal protestant sects are so drained of religious conviction that pretty much anything goes in their rule-book.
But, in contrast, mosques would sooner issue marriage certificates for a dog and a man to have and to hold until death to they part than a man and a man for instance. What then when two gay Muslims insist that it is their right that a mosque oblige their wish to marry.
Well, maybe not to worry too much about the Muslim angle. It will be an unseasonably cool day in the infernal realms when an American court, packed as the justice system is with – cough – “progressives”, orders a Mosque to marry two gay men. Ironic you say? Hmmmm…
What about a bakery? Well, that’s different.
See, we can insist until we’re blue in the face that rights are rights are rights, but it ain’t really so. Consistency? Symmetry? It depends on who the plaintiffs and defendants are.
We can also insist that justice is blind. But it ain’t. If there’s the prospect of bearded zealots intervening in a lethal way on the legal proceedings, you can bet your bottom dollar that the learned justices will take that fact into account in their deliberations. In fact, I think they’d move both earthly and celestial foundations to avoid dealing with such an eventuality.
I’m waiting for the day that a Muslim plaintiff comes to the courthouse and sez how is it that gay rights are respected but not age-old Muslim traditions with respect to marriage? Are we not citizens too? Why can’t I have more than one wife? What about the second wife I married back in the old-country? What about her? Where does she stand in the American legal firmament?
Then again, I don’t read all the legal journals. Maybe it already happened and I didn’t hear about it.
Ozone’s seemingly rough (actually exalted in his Book(s)) view of himself and down to shit common sense won’t help at all. Where does he stand on little boys being turned into girls? He won’t say and the shit won’t tell him neither.
My Book(s) tell me, Thou shalt not suffer a Witch to live. That might give these evil single mothers pause before they start queering their sons.
And yes, the despicable attacks (which he never criticizes) against Christian businessmen could just as well be made against Muslims and Orthodox Jews – but never are. Equal rights? Like hell. Both of those groups are allies against the Christians, so they will be left alone at least for now.
Every society as a “religion” or ruling philosophy of Value, be it sacred or secular. Even if secular, it is sacred to those for whom it serves as a de facto religion. Social Justice (so called), also called Political Correctness, is the new secular religion of our Day. And many of its believers are utter fanatics, quite willing to imprison, burn books and who knows, perhaps execute. That Ozone is completely comfortable with Alba speaks volumes about where he is – even if he refuses to say.
V.,
Well, most of what you’re outlining concerns “that’s-what-gawd-sez” issues worming their way into constructs of civil law (and most importantly, attendant *punishments*). That is no small matter, even though all that lawyerly humbuggery goes right out the pneumonia hatch when survival is paramount.
Now, I don’t care what folks do if it doesn’t hurt others, but if we go by some of the “that’s-what-gawd-sez” stuff, marrying off a 9-year-old girl to a lecherous old geezer is perfectly okey-dokey with said gawd — encouraged even. Is that going to hurt the girl? You bet your engorged fornication tool it is! Whose benefit is served? Whose ox is being gored (in a [very crude] manner of speaking)?
Guess it all depends on what kind of society you want to live in and what general mores you’d like to abide by and promote. (As we had hinted at before concerning, “what next?”.)
BTW, if two people fervently wish to bind themselves to one another for life, a civil certificate to state their legal rights (as any others so bound) should more than suffice. Here is a glaring example of where religious binding and legal binding should be kept as far apart as possible. Insisting otherwise is nothing more than a profoundly stupid stick-in-the-eye of those you’d enjoy oppressing (by any ‘side’ of the ‘argument’).
V.,
Ps. If the sanctimonious baker prefers to shun “the gay”, I’d say that’s perfectly within their rights and privileges to do so. If his/her business is adversely affected by boycotts, public protests, etc., well, turnabout is fair play, ain’t it?
The creation of bad blood is incredibly easy. Trying to end a blood feud, incredibly hard. Unnecessarily making enemies is the work of sociopaths and rank fools bent on suicide. It doesn’t take a whole lot of looking to see this.
Thank you for explaining yourself. My fears are vindicated. You support your allies in their attempt to destroy Christians. There are plenty of bakers, photographers, and caterers who would love their business. But they go looking for Christians to destroy – and not Muslims or Jews.
All the while self righteously pretending not to be talking to me. You Secular Pharisee!
I want a Swastika Cake when I get married. Think I’ll have any trouble getting served? I’ll take it all the way to the Supreme Court. No one will marry me you say? I’ll find some desperate immigrant and we’ll trade. Green card for Nazi cake. She won’t be entirely White so it will be a mind fuck for the Liberals. I’ll try to stay racially pure of course. I may fail of course. But I am already forgiven because it’s for the Old Cause, which gave us our freedom, religion, and laws.
You’re right it’s about general mores. Like you say, you don’t want to make enemies. And, like all things, the devil is in the details. The example with respect to gays wanting to marry could just as easily apply to a Muslim owned bakery or caterer.
What would our exalted thought-leaders-thought-police say, if anything, if a gay Muslim couple were denied service and decided to go public with a complaint? My bet is the exalted ones would call in sick. Comment? Sorry, cough, cough, laryngitis, in bed, no, can’t even raise my aching head.
What would courts do if there was the very real prospect of violent retribution from friskier elements in the Muslim community in the event of an adverse (in their view) judgement?
Do you know of any cases prosecuted in American courts over the forced genital mutilation of young girls ie an American MD spots an obvious case and ringy-dingies the cops and child protection. What about some 50 year old wanting to sponsor his foreign born “wife” and it turns out she’s ten years old?
These issues are where the law runs at 100 mph into cultural-religious lamp-posts. Does the law apply evenly or no? For certain groups do we turn a blind eye?
But, as you say, what happened circa 1200 BC in the general collapse of Mediterranean civilization could just as easily apply here. It forces a re-set. In that case our/my hair-splitting won’t even qualify for fire-side speculation. Because when you’re sleeping behind a tent-flap the primary topic for discussion will be how to get food. Survival refocuses the mind.
volodya
“Do you know of any cases prosecuted in American courts over the forced genital mutilation of young girls ie an American MD spots an obvious case and ringy-dingies the cops and child protection.”
They’d certainly be prosecuted over here. Strenuous efforts are made, even at school level, to monitor young girls possibly being taken out of the country on ‘holiday’ for such purposes. And there are groups, made up of young Muslim (and other) girls and women themselves, to oppose the practice and educate the families.
Any NHS doctor discovering that this had been done to a girl would be obliged to report it and prosecution, even if only of the parents, would the the order of the day. Despite whatever Janos might think or say.
“I want a Swastika Cake when I get married. Think I’ll have any trouble getting served? I’ll take it all the way to the Supreme Court. No one will marry me you say? I’ll find some desperate immigrant and we’ll trade. Green card for Nazi cake. She won’t be entirely White so it will be a mind fuck for the Liberals. I’ll try to stay racially pure of course. I may fail of course. But I am already forgiven because it’s for the Old Cause, which gave us our freedom, religion, and laws.”
Even knowing that’s just in your mind shows how sick you are.
” want a Swastika Cake when I get married. Think I’ll have any trouble getting served? I’ll take it all the way to the Supreme Court. No one will marry me you say? I’ll find some desperate immigrant and we’ll trade. Green card for Nazi cake. She won’t be entirely White so it will be a mind fuck for the Liberals. I’ll try to stay racially pure of course. I may fail of course. But I am already forgiven because it’s for the Old Cause, which gave us our freedom, religion, and laws.”
“………(sound of head exploding)….
“Even knowing that’s just in your mind shows how sick you are.”
Alba,
But… But now it is in yours….
I think the Brit’s have a sense of humor…I know Janos does.
Indeed, elysianfield, but you just never know with Janos. Sometimes you think it must be satire, then you remember it’s him.
“I’m waiting for the day that a Muslim plaintiff comes to the courthouse and sez how is it that gay rights are respected but not age-old Muslim traditions with respect to marriage? Are we not citizens too? Why can’t I have more than one wife? What about the second wife I married back in the old-country? What about her? Where does she stand in the American legal firmament?”
I can’t answer for America (and I don’t read any of the legal journals) but I do know of a British female doctor who is married to an Egyptian, who has a wife and family in Cairo. It is a weird situation, which certainly wouldn’t appeal to me, but she’s an educated woman, so I suppose it’s up to her.
She wanted a man in her life but not under feet (her words, I believe). The wife seems to be fine with it and the doctor ‘wife’ has done a lot, financially for the family, I gather.
The British doctor goes less to Egypt than she used to but the Egyptian husband spends about half of the year over here. They are ‘married’ but not married. They had some kind of religious ceremony (she’s Catholic, amusingly), but their marriage has no more legal currency in Egypt than it does in the UK. People assume polygamy is legal in Muslim countries, but even where it is practised, it isn’t necessarily legal. It depends on the country and I don’t know which allow it – presumably the less secular/more theocratic ones.
It is my understanding that American Mormons who practise polygamy practise it illegally as well, I await correction if that’s not so.
“That Ozone is completely comfortable with Alba speaks volumes about where he is – even if he refuses to say.”
That’s got to be the funniest thing I’ve read on this website.
Monty Python was an accurate barometer of the English consciousness towards the end of the 20th Century. It’s only gotten worse since then.
Recently Dr Who went back to the 19th Century. The streets were filled with Blacks. He said to his companion, History is a whitewash. This kind of revisionism destroys the mind of the young – every bit as much as the Israelis broadcasting porn from a captured Gaza station.
Never watched either of them, Janos, so I couldn’t possibly say – not since the daleks about 50 years ago anyway.
I think I saw the dead parrot sketch once, many years after the event.
Not very English, are you? Just a generic upper class Brit sans Empire. Do you at least have the decency to ride side saddle when you ride with the hounds?
I’m not remotely English, Janos. I thought you knew that. Although, you never know. Maybe if I get that DNA test done, they’ll find a modicum of Anglo-saxon or Viking from somewhere. Who knows? Who cares, except for the fun of it? But no, for the moment I’m unaware of any Englishness. I don’t think my two brothers living in England (where I lived for some 20 years) counts in terms of the racial rigour that you require. But we get on with everyone on these islands so we don’t worry about which bit they’re from.
I hope to get an Irish passport at some point, though, not because of my Irish husband – I’d have to live in Ireland for a year for that – but because I had an Irish grandfather I never met, born in 1874 in what is now NI but wasn’t then. Could be useful for avoiding queues at airports, although I avoid those as much as possible, but also it would just be fun to retain an EU passport and have two for choice.
Sorry to disappoint you, but my antecedents appear to be entirely proletarian. (You do have some very bizarre ideas, but I realise they are born of desperation.)
Some of them may not have been too far from the ones who hopped across the Pond and became your rednecks. But I don’t know. Maybe there’s Highlander blood, which I’d like better than Border Reivers. There’s definitely some Ulster Scot (now married to ex-Catholic Irish – the horror, the horror…) We’ll just have to wait and see. Or maybe it’s not that precise – I wouldn’t know.
My only connection with hounds is that we have an adopted rescue greyhound. Here she is…
http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?d=Da+Vinci+Mist&sex=f&color=BK&birthyear=201x&birthland=IE
…the only one in the family with any pedigree. Goes back to 1812 or so. She’s called Tess now, though – we’ve proletarianised her as well.
Your attempted insults are so wide ranging they’re amusing, but you’ll have to find another one. I’m sure you will – and I await with baited breath because it will have to be the exact opposite of the last one now that you know my humble origins 🙂
Water off a duck’s back, though, chum.
You have the fanaticism of the convert. Eager to adopt the ideology of your new class, you are the Sir Edmund Hillary of social climbers.
Hillary is named after Sir Edmund Hillary in honor of his ascent of Everest she said – even though it didn’t happen until years later. Another confabulation from a confused, evil, old woman.
“You have the fanaticism of the convert. Eager to adopt the ideology of your new class, you are the Sir Edmund Hillary of social climbers.”
My new class? I live in a one-bedroom flat. You’re too funny.
And Janos, you’d do a lot better if you stopped trying to read between the lines, around the lines, under the lines and behind the lines and just read the bl**dy lines.
And I’m still waiting with trepidation to hear about your solution to the problem of the Irish border post-Brexit, which is rather more important than my humble domestic arrangements and lack of servants (you just can’t get the staff these days – you offer them the broom cupboard as residential quarters and they look at you in total incomprehension).
I simply can’t believe you don’t have view on it. Perhaps amren has some useful tips. No?
Theresa May and David Davis are entirely out of their depth (not that that would take much) and will be simply gushing with delight to hear your proposals.
And once you’ve resolved this delicate constitutional and political impasse (currently filed under ‘I’ for Intractable) there are s-o-o-o-o-o many more I’m sure you could help us with.
What to do? Does it really matter that much now in reality? The Irish Republic is ruled by Liberal Globalists now, just as is Great Britain. As is the Catholic Church. What do Liberal Protestants have to fear now? Of course the Protestant Fundamentalists may not understand the Great Equality of all this now. But no one cares what they think, certainly not you. They have far more in common with Traditional Irish Catholics than with their own supposed co-religionists and countrymen.
Non Sequitir or Lateral move to illuminate: The Scottish National Party are more batshit crazy about bringing in 3rd World immigrants than the British Government.
“What to do? Does it really matter that much now in reality? ”
Yes it does, so thanks for your non-answer.
Re the Scots Nats (not my party, as you’d imagine, since nationalism isn’t really my thing – I voted to stay in the UK), there are only 5 million of us, half the size of London and with a large geographical area. We have room in our economy and our country.
We have been very welcoming to the people who have come to work with us from the EU, including in the NHS, but the English electorate has told us that has to stop, despite the People of Scotland (you like caps) and the People of Ireland voting against Brexit. You only like the Will of the People when you can choose The People.
The Irish border problem still needs to be solved. Or it does for people who value peace and don’t have broader agendas that do not involve the wellbeing of the people concerned. The peace process took a lot of hard work. It deserves support.
“Of course the Protestant Fundamentalists may not understand the Great Equality of all this now. But no one cares what they think, certainly not you. ”
The DUP, if that’s who you’re talking about, are the political wing of Protestant thuggery (think SInn Fein/IRA but without a belief in transsubstantiation or an interest in how many angels can be accommodated on the point of a needle). Both sides like baseball bats, but not for playing baseball.
Theresay May, having famously told a nurse, on prime-time TV, that there was ‘no magic money-tree’, lost an election she didn’t even need to have, then shook down the non-existent magic money tree and found a billion pounds with no obvious other uses in order to pay the DUP to keep her venal government afloat. If these people didn’t exist, we’d have to invent them.
“Well, maybe not to worry too much about the Muslim angle. It will be an unseasonably cool day in the infernal realms when an American court, packed as the justice system is with – cough – “progressives”, orders a Mosque to marry two gay men. Ironic you say? Hmmmm…”
My understanding is that even Anglican clergy – certainly in this country – can’t personally be obliged to marry a gay couple, which seems fair enough. The gay couple have the legal right to be married, nevertheless, either in a civil marriage (a system many of us common or garden heterosexual folks use) or in a church where the vicar/minister is happy to marry them Not yet in the Catholic church, obviously, as they ain’t havin’ any of it at this point. Cripes, they haven’t even got their heads round contraception yet.
WE arrive at the Party early, as it is of OUR Creation:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/npz866gq084fe3l/OUR%20creation.pdf?dl=0
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The 5 richest counties in America are surround Washington DC. Once upon a time Flint, Michigan had the highest per capita income. Once upon a time men who made stuff earned a decent wage and lifestyle. Today the men who spend other people’s tax dollars and who dole out favors from the power of their public office accumulate obscene amounts of wealth, though they produce nothing.
Trump didn’t do that. The so called professional, refined, mainstream, insider politicians did that. And so now America figures they’ll go with an outsider.
Cant’s blame them.
The 5 richest counties in America are surround Washington DC. Mike
The swamp IOW, by the numbers.
If you’re like me and have a severe sensory impediment that causes you to smell bullshit in every official stat then the remedy for that is to go look and see. What do your eyes say? Trust your lyin’ eyes.
About places like Flint there’s no doubt.
When the presidential choices are limited you go with the one that stinks the least.
This theme of US relations with Iran is bottomless, so I have to simplify.
The topic of US relations with Iran goes very deep first because Iran represents at least two world religions: Islam and Zoroastrianism. And the USA is founded by Freemasons, who are distant descendants of Zoroastrians. No comments necessary. I will only note that everything that the media and most of people say about this topic is simply not true.
To begin with, the book of Esther does not tell us about the conflict between the Aryans and the Jews, it talks about the providential, everlasting friendship of the religious Jews with the Aryans (Zoroastrians) against the common enemy Amalek(Satanist).
And this is written in plain text in the Bible, including that the first Messiah (the savior of the Jewish people) became great leader of the Aryans, the Persian (Iranian) Tsar Cyrus the Great, Zoroastrian by his religious affiliation.
As you can see everything is exactly upside down, and one can only regret that the great many people write about it without reading the Book of Esther.
Secondly, this issue is strategic because now in the world there is a religious rise everywhere and I would even say rise of apocalyptic consciousness, including in the US.
And among the forces that supported Trump in the elections and brought him to the White House, perhaps the most significant role was played by the Evangelical Christians, for whom the concept called the Shield of Israel plays a huge role. According to this concept, the US is guaranteed a victory in the last battle between the military forces of Good and Evil (Armageddon) in this capacity.
Moreover, if you remember that Donald Trump initially was forced by Hillary Clinton to participate in the election as a Republican spoiler, then on this issue to evangelical Christians should be added the Neocons, which with a high degree of accuracy can be considered as the Flying Monkeys of Bastinda.
But here there is one subtlety – the understanding of the very concept of the “Shield of Israel” by evangelical Christians and the Neocons, I would say, is completely opposite and goes back to the depths of the centuries, almost to the times of Esther, Mordecai, Artaxerxes and Haman.
But in more recent times Russia could fully experience this difference in the 80-90s. The fact is that the president of the United States Ronald Reagan in the 80s declared the USSR an Evil Empire (which according to the legend won the Cold War and disintegrated the USSR) at a meeting of evangelical Christians, but the Neocon leader Hillary Clinton took advantage of this “victory”, resulting in the damned 90s in Russia.
One can argue as much as possible about what privatization of the Soviet property would be like if in 1992 President Bush was elected for a second term, but the difference in the attitude of Neocons and evangelical Christians to the very concept of the “Shield of Israel”, as well as to both Testaments, Hillary Clinton demonstrated, forcing victorious Israel to withdraw its troops from Lebanon and betraying its Maronite Christian allies and by signing the Oslo agreement “Land for Peace”, peace which Israel is still waiting for, and having given up the land, nearly collapsed in 2006 in Lebanon, when had to face Hezbollah supported by Iran.
Well, with Evangelical Christians, Hillary Clinton entered into a fundamental conflict when during the campaign in 2016 she stated that after becoming president she would force all churches in the US to comply with US laws that prohibit discrimination of homosexuals, including their right to ritual services, such as, the right to a wedding in evangelical churches.
I understand that in Russia many people would have enjoyed watching Hillary Clinton forcing the evangelical Christians who supported Reagan and his war against the “Empire of Evil”, to pray in churches where homosexuals were wed, but I must note that such gloating contradicts Christianity in principle.
That is why it is of fundamental importance for President Trump to contribute to the restoration of the original concept of the Shield of Israel, especially when it is considered the best time to put pressure on Iran, which not only repeatedly denied Israel’s right to exist, but also threatened to destroy it, presumably with the help of a nuclear bomb.
Meanwhile, Iran’s refusal to build a nuclear bomb is the essence of the agreement concluded by Iran with the United States. Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton put her paws on this agreement, and Israel remembering her artistry in Oslo, Lebanon and in Israel itself is ready to preemptively strike Iran independently of the US, without any Shield, which means the collapse of the very concept that brought the US victory in the Cold War (in the eyes of the global West of course).
In addition, Iran is not just Islam, Iran is Shiite Islam, and it got involved in the Holy War with Israel, claiming leadership in the Islamic Ummah, which has since ceased to exist, and Sunnis in Syria on camera were eating the hearts of still living Shiites, and the militants of the PLO took an active part in this.
That is, the struggle with Israel for Iran now is a pure inertia of thinking and support for Hezbollah, which appeared in Lebanon and the Gaza Strip thanks to agreements in Oslo, that is, thanks to Hillary Clinton. To them to proclaim slogans in the UN is one thing, but to fight with the US … or to become the object of a preemptive strike by Israel, most likely nuclear, it’s quite another.
I think that in light of these very prospects, Trump has attacked Pakistan right now. Pakistan is the only Islamic state officially possessing nuclear weapons and it should have no doubt about what will happen if, in this situation, it decides to fish in muddy waters, especially since Iran is a Shia state and Pakistan is Sunni.
Anyway, a very poorly controlled chaos turned out by Zbigniew Brzezinski!
But the Orthodox Christmas for the first time in 25 years will be celebrated without the triumphant Bastinda!!!
Every Iranian I met abroad, and interestingly there were quite a few, (mainly in Newport, California, and Toronto, Canada), insisted they were Persians of Zoroastrian ancestry, even though they were culturally Muslim. They were quite embarrassed of their Muslim culture, and when I asked them how is it that the Ayatollahs are time and again popularly elected, they just shrug their shoulders. It seems to me that the same voting system that got Stalin elected, and Assad elected, and people like Killary elected, is the same voting system they have in Iran.
Intelligent people do not trust and believe the media, The same should apply to the voting system. Is it just as compromised. Even though Trump got elected, it is very likely Trump won by a very substantial majority. I would guess by at least a 60-40 margin.
The media edits every news event the way they want, instead of just reporting what actually happened. A mal-informed society is an ignorant society, just what TPTB want. Living in today’s world is living on the holodeck of the USS Enterprise.
It’s even scarier when you know that almost every news event is scripted and staged in advance.
Amalek = Amu = Hyksos = Arabs from the Saudi peninsula
When the Jews left Egypt during the Exodus they met the Amalekites in the Sinai, and bloody battle ensued. Following a stalemate in the skirmishes, the Amalekites continued to Egypt and took it over. This is because the Egyptian army was sunk in the Red Sea. It was the end of the old Egyptian period, and the beginning of the middle Egyptian period. The Amalekites ruled over Egypt for 400 years and their rule was quite brutal on the Egyptians. When King Saul conquered their fort city Avaris, their power collapsed and they were quickly replaced by the Egyptians of the South. Some Amalekites escaped to Israel and were chased out. They were not killed as was instructed by God, and now we can only wonder what Arab tribe(s) are of Amalek.
I think the Hyksos were proto-Jews. The way they pretended to be Egyptian when they took up residence in the Delta is profoundly un-Arab and un-Aryan, but very Jewish, mimicry being one of the strategies in Nature, one which the Jews took up very early on.
Again, you’re talking nonsense. The Hyksos ruled Egypt for 400 years. They were Egyptian Pharaohs! This was during the Judges period in Israel, up until the first king of Israel, King Saul. After the Amalekites/Hyksos lost their main and controlling fort at Avaris to King Saul, it was all over for them and back to Arabia they went.
Israel = Isis+Ra+El
More ignorant nonsense.
Ee = he who is
Sar = minister
El = of strength (god)
Israel = he who is the minister of god
Alternatively,
Eesra = he who will seed
El = of strength (god)
Israel = he who seeds god
— https://youtu.be/rwHyg-WBL7M
Although the alternative meaning I provided is spelled differently in Hebrew, phonetically it sounds the same. It’s a kind of a play on words, which Hebrew speakers often encounter in the TaNaKh.
He [fermented] hatred between the races, – Walter
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OMG, I cannot let this go uncorrected (sorry Jim).
[fomented]
I noticed it too, but I showed (admirable?) restraint.
You missed one, though, Q. Further up, I used ‘await’ – entirely accidentally and in haste – as an intransitive verb, when it is transitive. Even those of us who mostly know our Ps and Qs (pardon the pun) sometimes commit typographical errors, often because we’re exceedingly fast touch typists too.
I’m disappointed in you, Q – I thought you’d notice it more quickly than I did 🙂
I’m disappointed in you, Q – I thought you’d notice it more quickly than I did – Green
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I notice all kinds of things but I have to be sparing in mentioning them to avoid being bounced out of here by our host.
I wouldn’t know an intransitive verb if I tripped over it. I DO notice, however, that this sentence
It is my understanding that American Mormons who practise polygamy practise it illegally as well, I await correction if that’s not so.
should be two sentences, not one. The comma should be a period.
You are quite right, Q. I noticed that one too at the same time – a slip of the finger, not a misunderstanding of the punctuation. It annoys me how many people use ‘however’ in the middle of a sentence, when they should start a new one or use a semi-colon.
He had forgotten his briefcase, however he kept on driving. NOOOOO…
He had forgotten his briefcase; however, he kept on driving. YEEEES….
A transitive verb is merely one that requires an object, hence:
I wait with trepidation (intransitive verb, no object);
I await your judgement with trepidation (transitive verb; object: your judgement).
My view on these things, as one who has to keep a tight *rein* on/try not to give free *rein* to her pedantry is that this stuff is fun and important at some level, but it’s a lot less important than the really important stuff, which is the avoidance of famine, war, pestilence and civil strife.
Before Samuel Johnson, English was spelled according to the fancy of the speller and no-one died. Well, not as a direct result of the spelling anyway.
One point of vocabulary (not English this time) or spelling that I do find interesting, just in passing, is that some scholars apparently suggest that the word ‘virgins’, 72 of whom are expected by those martyred in pursuit of glory within the religion that takes up so much space on this website, is possibly a mistranslation of the word for ‘raisins’.
So it may well be that a bowl of raisins is all they might expect in the circumstance. That would certainly offer less incentive for the horrors that have been undertaken in pursuit of said glory.
And Janos, don’t even start.
I have to say, though, Q, that I wish the abomination that is ‘for free’ had not passed by contagion from your country to mine, where it is now, sadly, established.
‘Free’ (i.e. free of charge) is good. ‘For nothing’ is also good. But ‘for free’?? Never will it pass my lips.
Hey Keeds!
Do not be perturbed pertaining to the piffle I post to these pages because I happen to be “a very stable genius”! 😀
Phew. Is everyone else as reassured as I am?
Sounds like the husband who exclaimed, “Those flowers were for you, honey!” Or the CEO who insists, “This corporation is the strongest it has ever been,” just as soon as the last of his shares have been sold.
Elrond,
Scary, isn’t it?
Now, any reasonable chief of staff would surreptitiously lift that phone and destroy it, as well as the twatster account. …But that might make the Triple G angry and in a firin’ mood! lol
HOWEVER, the exposure and entertainment factors would be destroyed, and now that we’re used to it, it would be sorely missed.
Tweet on, oh Gilded One!
Oh, THOSE PIGEONS!!
Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over all the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around the table looking victorious.
….then censor the truth in a desperate attempt to hold on to power.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/04ji1jyftqf9ccx/Pigeons.pdf?dl=0
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And if by some (remotely possible) twist of fate, Donald J. Trump is successfully removed from the office of president, he would do nothing less than tell the whole world:
1. Why the U.S. still has troops fighting Yzlamik jihadis in Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Yemen, Somalia, Djibouti…..and of course, Shitholistan.
2. How much U.S. Government gold is actually present and stored Ft. Knox. (Not much)
3. Who the Federal Reserve actually answers to and serves. Maybe throw in the Trilateral Commission, Club of Rome and the Council On Foreign Relations for good measure.
4. All about the Aliens – – the outer space kind not the illegals.
That would be the press conference to end all press conferences.
Getting back to reality, The Donald would have a national state of emergency declared with appropriate martial law powers instituted before any kind of removal action against his person from the Oval Office.
All good.
…..and a much more likely scenario is the accelerated reduction of Deep State to JFK desired levels.
Trump has 5% control of the federal government after 1 year of service.
The Deep State’s scorched Earth policy is to be reckoned with.
…..and so are WE.
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Trouble is, no one would believe him. You can lead an idiot to the truth, but you can’t make him believe it.
Trump has made believers of the former 11,000+ federal workers.
http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2017/08/trump-administration-reversing-trend-sheds-11000-feds-six-months/140025/
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Wasn’t George HW Bush, Sr. always setting up businesses for his son, George W. Bush, Jr. to run that all went bust, except for the Texas Rangers Baseball team, which was really just a real estate play exploiting tax payer giveaways?
The American Dream
“I have asked many men behind bars what kind of work they want to do when they are released. Many responded that they desired to run their own business. One can hardly fault them for aspiring to achieve what, for many people, is the American dream. When asked what being an entrepreneur involves, most haven’t a clue. Dwelling in the world of their own pretensions, they imagine themselves barking orders while others scurry to do their bidding. Rather than anticipating the endless problems that plague even the most conscientious people as they build and operate a business day to day, criminals focus on the enormous wealth that they are certain will be theirs. It is the “big score” notion—a huge bonanza obtained easily.
Inside the Criminal Mind
by Stanton Samenow
That’s a heluva price to pay for being stylish:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhgcznole5pph6z/HELUVA%20PRICE.pdf?dl=0
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According to the US Federal Government’s own auditor’s reports, there are US$21 Trillion in undocumented accounting adjustments. In other words, US$21 Trillion that is unaccounted for and “Missing”.
“Criminals often establish their own businesses through which they purport to provide services or deliver products and then do neither. The home-repair business is one of many that are plagued by fly-by-night operations. A contractor drives around a neighborhood, offers homeowners a good price for driveway resurfacing, pockets a deposit, and is never seen again.”
Inside the Criminal Mind
by Stanton Samenow
Kleptocracy….
“Criminals often utilize jobs directly for crime. Businesses suffer more from insider theft than from pilferage by customers. Employees abscond with millions of dollars’ worth of merchandise and embezzle substantial amounts of cash. It has been estimated that between 30 to 60 percent of small business failures are attributable to employee theft.”
Inside the Criminal Mind
by Stanton Samenow
Some don’t even try to find a cover. My husband was once taking a medical history from a petty criminal in a police cell.
When asked for his profession, he answered ‘housebreaker’ without a hint of irony. He saw it as his job, as he would ‘plumber’.
One would have to presume his conscientiousness on the job left something to be desired, otherwise he would have been at home enjoying the fruits of his ‘labours’.
“Fake it until you make it.” Hillary Clinton, Former US Secretary of State
“Status and authority are far more important to the criminal than the quality of the work he does.”
Inside the Criminal Mind
by Stanton Samenow
“One Adam 12, One Adam 12…2-11 in Progress. Handle Code 3.”
“One Adam 12, One Adam 12…2-11 in Progress. Handle Code 3.”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CfY3Mp82s
ZUMA produces spontaneous cooperation.
…..didn’t want to deploy it, but felt we owed it to you.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lp31vwc1ej8awmo/ZUMA.pdf?dl=0
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“It makes no matter if he knows much about the Constitution. That’s what he has all those advisors for.” –outsider
Trump has proven this past year that he does not listen to advisors (those remaining who have not been either fired by Trump or indicted).
Trump will also not read what advisors write down on paper, even when they use illustrations and simple words. He didn’t want to be president, is bored with the duties, and has spent more money on travel and golf in one year than Obama did in eight years. But…
As Trump said during the campaign: “I ALONE CAN FIX IT!”
Stinkin’ advisors like Bannon are not needed! His Lowliness King Trump “alone,” (**wink, wink** as Putin’s puppet) …. Trump is enough to destroy America, all by hisself.
And it does matter that Trump is an ignorant ass who does not know the Constitution from a hole in the ground.
President Trump said he’s “hopeful” for a deal with Democrats to protect Dreamers
I am so glad Trump has seen the light and now sings Kumbayah with his friends Chuck and Nancy. Halelujah! Go Trump Go!
Chuck and Nancy are the advisors Trump listens to.
Merry Orthodox Christmas!
The Word born from Flame and Light
Mikhail Lermontov
Today will be Christmas,
The city in the expectation of mystery,
It’s dozing in a crystal frost
And waits: the magic will come to pass.
Blizzards took possession of it,
Just like a dream.
In the cathedrals, the trembling of candles and singing,
And incense silvery smoke.
With unison to bells
The heart beats as well.
And from its fate can not escape –
From birth of magic words.
The spring of heaven – The spring of words,
They are from flame and light.
And in the world, in poet’s soul,
And in the Word the God is reborn.
The blizzard-wizard put a spell,
Your magic power
Will change to something other,
The earth, the city, and the people.
In crowd of passers-bys,
The miracles will show
And suddenly the music like
The voices will become.
This is how this verse sounds in Russian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=72&v=RfHyeTeK3x8
The author and performer Irina Afonskaya
Christmas: a shameless appropriation of pagan solstice celebrations, which in turn, capitalism appropriated and turned into an even more shameless celebration of greed and avarice. Time to turn the page on the whole sordid mess and put it to bed forever. For many working stiffs (but growing fewer every year), it’s nothing more than a paid day off work.
My other half often works on Christmas Day, albeit generally a short shift which still allows for a late Christmas dinner. One year, he worked a double shift and, as coincidence would have it, both my sprogs* were, unusually, celebrating elsewhere. So I had a Christmas-free Christmas. Splendid it was; a glass and some modest nibbles in hand, I worked my way through a boxed set of something classically delightful and totally un-Christmassy and let the world go on its merry way, totally ignored.
*to save Q the trouble:
spr??
[BRITISH, informal, humorous]
noun
1.a child.
2.a military recruit or trainee.
oops
The phonetic version of ‘sprog’ seems to have been too much for the copy-paste function. Question marks were the best it could do.
With Trump putting the world at risk, our government in charge is taking the predictable and incremental steps, preparing for our nuclear destruction, this one in the form of a recently announced CDC campaign.
Public Health Response to a Nuclear Detonation
https://www.cdc.gov/cdcgrandrounds/archives/2018/January2018.htm
“While a nuclear detonation is unlikely, it would have devastating results and there would be limited time to take critical protection steps. Despite the fear surrounding such an event, planning and preparation can lessen deaths and illness….”
The longer Donald Trump is in office, the more he shocks and alarms us with his strange and extremely unpresidential behavior.
From the incoherent, fallacious interview he gave the New York Times on December 28 to Tuesday’s tweet about his “nuclear button” to his Saturday morning assertion that he is a “very stable genius,” the remarks keep getting more menacing, bizarre, and portentous of disaster.
There is a growing call from a group of psychiatrists — the best medical experts at interpreting aberrant human behavior — for an emergency evaluation of the president’s mental capacity, by force if necessary.
Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over all the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around the table looking victorious.
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“No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over all the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around the table looking victorious.”
Captain,
And I expect, under the New Republic Chess Rules, you beat the pigeon 3 out of 4 matches?
We are not playing chess. We are talking about a mad man with control over a nuclear arsenal who says he has a bigger button on his desk than anyone else … and it works. Fuck chess.
How about psychiatric evaluations of all Cat Ladies across the US Little Jane? Facebook would collapse.
brh
What is it with you and cats?
We are not playing with pussies.
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Time for Sessions to expire.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vgcf7w55tqg9lv8/sessions.pdf?dl=0
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Re: President Trump’s mental health.
Andrew Jackson was a sordid bigamist and whore monger.
Lincoln was the ‘original orangutang’, an alienist who belonged in an asylum.
Teddy Roosevelt was a maniac who would drag us into war with Imperial Germany and Great Britain.
Reagan was a doddering old fool.
Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper had great fun speculating on the Presidents mental health in between sessions sucking their ‘husbands’ rock back in the green room.
Green Alba, yeah I’ve been all over courtesy of the US Navy.
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And I’ve read that Ulysses Grant regularly sought oblivion in alcohol.
“…And I recommend whatever he is drinking….” ~ Abraham Lincoln (paraphrased)
Traveled in packs to the nearest bar? Or traveled alone and actually interacted with locals?
“I joined the Navy to see the sea
And what did you see? I saw the sea. 🙂
Travel only broadens the mind in certain circumstances.
Sorry!
I joined the Navy to see the world – of course…
The thing is, BRH, and I’m being serious now, you’ve asked me pretty much the same question about three times. But you’ve asked it rudely, ignorantly and arrogantly. With malice and intent.
And the way you talk, you make me think you’re the kind of person I wouldn’t want to meet up a dark alley – and yet there are other people you want me to be afraid of.
I’m going to reiterate what I said in response to your rather naive post about the enchanted green island of Ireland. Your compatriots helped bankroll the IRA. We had years of not knowing whose city centre was going to be blown up next – how many body bags would be needed, how many limbs would need to be amputated, how many faces would need the shards of glass removed from them from the blown-up shop fronts and how many people would never recover psychologically.
So have some humility, BRH, and be something better than a back row heckler. The problems of mass migration, currently caused by geopolitics in which your country and mine are both complicit, and in future to be caused by the devastation of climate change, for which, per capita, your country is more complicit than any other, are complicated. Bigotry will not help solve them.
Do you really think that’s why the Muslims are pouring? Climate Change? Or how about “the War in Syria”? As if they wouldn’t have poured in no matter what the weather was like if they could. As if they haven’t tried to conquer Europe again and again.
During the Famine, the British were exporting food FROM Ireland. The only defense you people have is that the British Elite often treated its own people just as badly.
I had four green fields. Each one was a jewel. But strangers came, and tried to take them from me. You still have one of my jewels (Ulster) – and you’re going to have to give it back.
“Do you really think that’s why the Muslims are pouring? Climate Change?”
You really are incapable of reading what people actually say, aren’t you? Actually I know you’re not – you’re just just plain dishonest.
“During the Famine, the British were exporting food FROM Ireland. The only defense you people have is that the British Elite often treated its own people just as badly.”
I’m not ‘you people’. I don’t make any excuse for ‘them’ at all. Any more than I excuse Churchill starving the Bengalis. You didn’t mention that one, bizarrely.
Did you really think you needed to explain the four green fields? I’m happy and always have been happy for the fourth green field to go exactly where its people choose for it to go. Unhappily there is a difference of opinion between the ‘Protestant Fundamentalists’ you were lauding yesterday and the Catholic Nationalists whose cause you seem to be espousing today. Make your mind up.
It seems a no-brainer to me that the island of Ireland should one day be reunited. That has to be managed within the context of the expectations and wishes of all its people. However, it has always been a fear of certain members of the protestant population of NI (the ones whose opinion you claimed yesterday I didn’t listen to) that the catholics would one day outbreed them – a fear similar to your own in a different context. As I’ve said before, your principles tend to change depending on which ‘People’ you’re talking about.
You will find that despite the rhetoric of some, most of the people of the other three green fields have more recently taken the view that they wish they could just dig a big moat between themselves and the bigots of both sides in the north and see it float off into the Atlantic. You and BRH have some odd views about the enchanted isle and its inhabitants.
For the record, I’d be happy to see the Falklands eventually run by Argentina and Gibraltar run by Spain, which seems logical, given the geography, but in both cases it’s not up to me – it’s up to ‘The People’ who live there.
One can only go so far back, though, and I don’t think the French have any interest in disputing Les Iles Normandes.
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“During the Famine, the British were exporting food FROM Ireland”
Monocultures (as well as nasty colonial rulers) leave you vulnerable – proponents of permaculture know what they’re talking about. Not that the poor Irish had much choice in the matter of spuds versus a forest garden. But do stop talking about them as if you gave a toss. You recently referred to Celts in terms of their racial inferiority. Perhaps the Anglo-Saxons or, more likely, Norman robber barons, who got the exported food, were a step up in your revolting hierarchy of human value.
You remain an opportunist who lacks basic humanity.
And please, give it a rest with the insane assumptions about who I am, class-wise or anything else-wise. You make yourself ridiculous and desperate with your arrant nonsense about riding with hounds and social climbing. I don’t know who you are, where you you come from, what you do for a living (if anything), whether you are 32 or 72, rich or poor, white collar or blue collar or any other of the trappings that don’t really matter. And I have neither asked nor presumed. You just flail around trying to find things you think will insult or offend me.
As I quoted on Hogmanay:
“The rank is but the guinea stamp
The man’s the gowd* for a’ that.”
Oor Rabbie
*gold
one *you*
PPS ENGLAND invaded Ireland, not Britain. But you obviously know that. So even my antecedents had nowt to do with it.
Not that we’re responsible for what our antecedents did anyway, but their doings, insofar as they damaged other people, should at least make us more measured and humble. Perhaps (in fact almost certainly) one reason why the Germans thought they had something to make up for, in humanitarian terms.
“For the record, I’d be happy to see the Falklands eventually run by Argentina and Gibraltar run by Spain, which seems logical, given the geography, but in both cases it’s not up to me – it’s up to ‘The People’ who live there.’
Alba,
In what distant World, in what Dimension, are the people to decide who rules them? A nice and oft held concept, but one little observed in reality.
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My people were asked 🙂 We chose to stay in the UK.
Green Alba:
The fact remains Islam is devouring western Europe. Your posturing, virtue signaling, running flak for EU Commissars and blaming the United States isn’t going to change that.
One has to wonder what happened since European armies were able to fight off Muslim invasions of Europe at Tours and Lepanto. One answer might be in a PBS series I watched recently about the Vikings, stalwart men wielding broadswords with horned helmets on their heads, conquering half the world. Compare that with a photo from a few years ago of a Swedish man at a train station in Stockholm with a vagina hat on his head holding a sign reading ‘Refugees Welcome’.
Be warned we’re not going to bail your asses out like we did in 1918 and 1944. This time you are on your own. Good luck.
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“Be warned we’re not going to bail your asses out like we did in 1918 and 1944. This time you are on your own. Good luck.”
You didn’t join the last world war to bail out anyone’s ass except your own. You reluctantly joined in, having refused earlier, when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour. Don’t talk nonsense.
And here’s an interesting statistic for you:
Military deaths in WWII:
US 416,800
Soviet Union 8,800,000
Have some perspective.
And I don’t ‘blame the US’ for everything, but it has blood on its hands for a lot more than you are even willing to remember or contemplate. As does my own country. You’ve had decades of being able to kill people with impunity far from your own borders and you don’t like the fact that there are consequences.
My country has blood on its hands too. And if you colonise two thirds of the world, take their stuff and teach them English, their first port of call when they are looking for a better life, which is why pretty much everyone in the US since forever is there too, you can’t expect them to head for Norway or Iceland as their first port of call. And you have obligations (I’m talking about earlier immigration, not the current influx).
Re ‘seeing the world’ courtesy of the Federal dollar, I remember Lynndie England saw it that way too. She sent us back postcards. Although in her case it was her superior officers who should take the blame for what was allowed to happen. I don’t remember if they were ever made to.
“Anthem ’84”
If you’re looking for a fighter who’ll defend you
And love you for your Freedom. I’m your man.
And I ain’t gonna leave you for the crazy things you’re doing
But don’t ask me to lend a helping hand.
You were such a pretty dream as I remember
You were young and strong and God was on your side.
But vision slowly faded like the wonder from your eyes
And you traded your compassion for your pride.
But I still believe in all that we believed in.
And I pray to God that you will in the end.
And you’ll see the golden chances that you’re wasting.
And be the loving beauty that you can.
Kristofferson.
White. Christian. American. Ex-Army.
PS I find you rarely get a worthy argument from people who have to rely on accusations of ‘virtue signalling’ or ‘political correctness’. They aren’t generally honest about their motives and often just want the right to vilify other people they don’t like.
Any views I might have (and don’t presume you know them) which might accord with what people like you see as political correctness do so coincidentally. They are my views because they are my views. They may change, because I think. And very few people at all actually know much about my views, because, apart from writing on here and some comments below the line on the ‘Graun’ – both anonymous – I tend to be short on political diatribes.
And there isn’t a single Muslim in the entire world who knows me or what I think, other than the owners of the local shops, who know I’m a customer but haven’t the slightest clue what I think about anything. They know I treat them politely, as they do me. Although I did meet Mohamed, many years ago – the Egyptian ‘husband’ of the Scottish Catholic doctor. He’s as boring as anything – don’t know what she sees in him.
” He’s as boring as anything – don’t know what she sees in him.”
Many hidden attributes, no doubt….
They’re well into their 60s now 🙂
Christmas: a shameless appropriation of pagan solstice celebrations, which in turn, capitalism appropriated and turned into an even more shameless celebration of greed and avarice. == Ol’ Scratch
At the Caribbean Shore. Finca and Ol’ Scratch
Finca:
Demon, I’m bored.
Scratch:
What’s to be done,
Finca? Man’s not without limits, is he?
And to be bored, like it or not,
Is every rational being’s lot:
Some are too idle, some too busy,
Have too much or too little faith;
Some find no joy, while some are dizzy
With it, enjoying themselves to death.
You yawn your lives out, till you fall
Into the grave that yawns for all.
Why shouldn’t you yawn too?
Finca:
The joke is stale. Distraction’s what I want, so find me some.
What’s that white spot on the water?
Scratch:
A Spanish three-master, clearing the sound,
Fully laden, Holland-bound;
Three hundred sordid souls aboard her,
Two monkeys, chests of gold, a lot
Of fine expensive chocolate,
And a fashionable malady
Bestowed on your kind recently.
Finca:
Sink it.
Scratch:
Right away.
(Inspired by Pushkin’s Little Tragedies)
How about Keith X, Imam Keith Ellison, DNC Vice Chair, a Farrakhan acolyte, for president, once Deep State scumbags force out President Trump.
All you stupid sonsabitches who voted for Donald Trump, 66 million of you, you think your vote mattered? Your vote doesn’t amount to sh-t unless elites get the desired results. So go back to hunting geese, going to church, and working on your pick up trucks, you dumb deluded bastards. We’re in charge here.
Thaddeus Braithwaite
Dept. of State
Scratch: Three hundred sordid souls aboard escaping the US and Trump.
Finca: Sink it.
Scratch: Right away.
Mountains Finc,
Is this yours? And is it really as big as it looks?
— https://youtu.be/b_991mPlpaw
76 million did NOT vote for Trump, a majority of 10 million.
Finca: suck it.
Janet: right away.
Mountains Finc,
Is this yours? And is it really as big as it looks?
— youtu.be/b_991mPlpaw
Actually, of the 231 million eligible voters in 2016, only 66 million voted for Trump. 165 million did not vote for Trump. What about us?
Vote with your feet.
States Rights rule over the Federal Government, in the New Republic.
Can’t find a State of the Union that meets your needs??
Great!
We have procured one way airline tickets to Venezuela and North Korea for you.
….and I am the chosen one to deliver the ticket and on boarding, in person.
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Anyplace in Venezuela? Venezuela has four distinctive regions. Venezuelas are wonderful people and there are wonderful sights, like the highest waterfall in the world.
You say you are paying one-way airline tickets and will give them to me personally? Please provide your address. I will go pick them up at your place, if you are not just blowing smoke out your ass.
Hello “Janet”.
GREAT!!
We are assembling the deportees at the Westin/Atlanta Hartsfield on Sunday, January 28, with outbound flights booked throughout the week.
4736 Best Road, Atlanta, GA, 30337
Please respond with your email address, so we may properly enroll you in the program.
Thank You,
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Sent from the New Republic.
Great! I want premium economy seats on Delta to Valencia, Venezuela.
One-way, $2,368, Delta 981 · Premium Economy · Boeing 757.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g316069-Valencia_Central_Region-Vacations.html
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You’re doing/have done no such thing. (What, no one is capable of contacting Atlanta by phone?)
But, continue lying, it ups your credibility quotient and ensures that everyone here will read and seriously consider your entirely credible broadsides from your entirely credible broadsheets.
Stick to the cranky threats and empty, honeytrap promises; they’re more fun.
Hello “Janet” and “ozone”,
The blocks of tickets are pre-purchased.
Ingrates with hands out don’t get to pick their seats or class of travel.
January 28
4736 Best Road, Atlanta, GA, 30337
Please respond with your respective email addresses, so we may properly enroll you in the deportation program.
Unlike Israel, we are much more compassionate.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-africans/israel-rounds-up-african-migrants-for-deportation-idUSBRE85A0VI20120611
You see, we offer 50 States of the Union for residency.
It’s only after the ingrate has professed no location meets their needs, that WE step in for proper and humane deportation services.
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…..and I’m happy to report the council is offering a modest stipend ($1000 USD) to supplement the one way ticket.
However, the stipend becomes progressively smaller on a weekly basis, and expires March 31, 2018.
The stipend is handed to the successful candidate on the jet bridge during the boarding of the aircraft.
Based upon historical success of the privately funded program, we are sharing the model with the government of Israel.
We believe the program is best managed privately, not as a government mandate.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-migrants/israel-offers-to-pay-african-migrants-to-leave-threatens-jail-idUSKBN1ES0UY
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Craptain Amreeka,
Once you and vladdie the laddie (he of the encrusted lederhosen) have come to a final, definitive consensus in your schizo mind, let us know what your manifesto looks like for the New Foxfire Republic and we’ll be sure to read it and be all a’fear’d and a-tremble. (You might want to include some special strictures about specific shadings of complexion in there; that will be a helpful guide for us ignoranti.) How would that be? Okay, dandy, now we have no need to “discuss” it further!
It’s simple math, which is color blind.
Y = career politicians x career lobbyists x globalist mainstream media x career unelected Deep State bureaucrats x Hollywood elites x unprosecuted corruption x globalist banking cartels x globalist technocrats x pharmacological reprogramming x gross incompetence x lust for power x love of money
“God integrates empirically.” – Albert Einstein.
Y = old republic COLLECTIVIST NETWORK globalism = THE SWAMP.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/nv8sko6hpqm6tir/New%20Republic%20rev123.pdf?dl=0
“All you stupid sonsabitches who voted for Donald Trump, 66 million of you” –brh
You got it backwards, brh. 66 million voted for Clinton. Only 63 million voted for Trump. Gotta watch you more closely. You are providing false information. That is 63 million versus the 168 million eligible voters who were NOT motivated to vote for Trump.
“Re: President Trump’s mental health.” –brh
No president in our history has made jokes about how big his nuclear button is to incinerate millions of people, insulting foreign leaders to provoke a retaliatory nuclear attack from nuclear nations he has antagonized. Who do you think is going to “win” in a confrontation of the USA versus Russia, Pakistan, and China? Or do you think the nuclear bombs are only going to explode “over there” … and not in Connecticut?
Bernie Sanders says Trump is a ‘pathological liar’ whose policies are more dangerous than his words
“He’s so offensive. A few weeks ago, he attacked a United States senator with sexual innuendo. He talks about prison for his former opponent in a presidential election. This is not what presidents of the United States do,” Sanders said.
“But I am more worried about what this president’s policies are in terms of telling the working people of this country, during his campaign that he was going to stand with them. And yet, he governs now as a representative of the billionaire class. Tax breaks for the wealthy, cutting people off of health insurance, ignoring the needs of children, not dealing with the prescription drug crisis in the country that he said he would deal with. I worry about him being a pathological liar. Those are some of the concerns I have.”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bernie-sanders-trump-is-a-pathological-liar-whose-policies-are-more-dangerous-than-his-words/article/2645220
“We are not playing with pussies.” –C A
Just grabbing them?
I an not sure if you should lay off of the Crack or smoke more. You choose.
Easy choice, since I don’t use drugs. Not even drugs from CVS.
In 2018 GGG’s day is now starting around 11 a.m. and he is holding far fewer meetings during his workday, according to Trump’s private schedule.
The first part of der fuhrer’s day is known as “Executive Time.” According to the schedule, it takes place in the Oval Office, but WH officials said it actually takes place in the White House residence and consists of Trump watching TV and tweeting.
His Lowliness is really amazing. Golf, TV, Twitter, (no Melania), and Big Macs. He is truly a populist billionaire!…
But Mr. Stable Genius and his policies are harmful to the working people who voted for him, and his days are numbered due to his lack of nutrition, poor health, and the stress of being president. He will likely not finish his first term, but his hair will probably change color anyway, to a color resistant to dyes.
history buffs, with this scumbag elitist and deep state talk about removing President Trump from office for mental illness, do any of you know why President Wilson was not removed from the presidency after suffering from a debilitating stroke in 1920, leaving him paralyzed and unable to speak? He served out his term until 1924, his young wife and a Colonel House taking up most of the duties.
the bar must be high.
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brh, there is no bar higher than treason. None dare call it treason.
brh, did Wilson go to Russia, contract prostitutes for golden showers, and end up owned by Russian leaders? You cannot find any historical antecedents for the Putin puppet now in the White House.
Trump’s property sales to wealthy Russians, his hundreds of millions in credit from Deutsche Bank, his criminal involvement in massive Russian money-laundering operations…. no previous American president has committed ongoing financial crimes for personal benefit with a foreign power hostile to the United States. Treason.