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T he climactic uproar in Ferguson, Mo., a week ago took a zany turn when the “we want peace” message of Michael Brown’s family rotated 180 degrees to the imperative command, “burn this bitch down,” hollered repeatedly by stepfather Louis Head outside the grand jury headquarters as the decision was announced. The assembled crowd dutifully obliged and burned down many of the businesses that the local population depends on for routine commerce.

The scripted quality of these events seemed as formally predictable as an 1856 minstrel show, and the parallel is worth reflecting on because the nation appears determined to explode again in some kind of a civil war — bearing in mind Karl Marx’s advisory that “history repeats, first as tragedy, then farce.” As is the case with many show-biz extravaganza’s of our time the script had many authors.

First were the cable TV news venues, led by the race hustlers at CNN, whose limitless pandering to the intemperance of black viewers played a large part in cultivating the mood of injustice that failed to square with the objective reality of Michael Brown’s shooting at the hands of policeman Darren Wilson. Every conceivable delusion generated by the event was nurtured to the max in order to amp up the melodrama at the expense of clarifying what had happened. In the end, CNN celebrities Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper got the explosion of violence that their producers had worked so hard to fuel.

Next were the professional black race hustlers such as the Reverend Al Sharpton, now an MSNBC anchor! It seems generally forgotten that Sharpton fomented the 1988 Tawana Brawley rape farce that occupied the nation’s attention for a good year before all the allegations unwound into a limp skein of falsehoods, and Sharpton along with his race hustler lawyer sidekicks, Alton H. Maddox and Vernon Mason, were found liable for making defamatory claims against a Dutchess County (New York) Assistant District Attorney (alleged to be among several Brawley rapists). Now, 25 years later, a new crop of race hustlers has come along such as Brown family lawyer Benjamin Crump, who previously worked for Trayvon Martin’s family in the 2012 Florida case. In Act 3 of the Ferguson soap opera, you can be sure Crump will be trolling the “deep pockets” of Missouri for a “settlement.”

Next are the two idiots on The New York Times op-ed page: Nicholas Kristoff and Charles M. Blow. Kristoff, in his latest installment of racial self-mystification — When Whites Just Don’t Get It, Part 5 — proposes a “national commission” to study America’s race troubles. Wow, what an original idea! Commissions are so darn effective, don’t you think? Mr. Blow repeatedly makes the point that Americans are not willing to have an honest debate about racial issues. That is true largely because public figures such as Mr. Blow will instantly label as “racist” any idea or opinion that contradicts their own pleadings. Is disproportionate black crime a problem? “Racist!” Don’t go there.

A week after the grand jury decision and the riot that followed, the Michael Brown incident is already disappearing down the national memory hole. Why? Mainly because anyway you cut it Michael Brown was a poor candidate for martyrdom. The generous view of his fate is that he made a series of very poor choices one summer’s day. So now CNN is shopping for a replacement. As of Sunday night, they seemed to have settled on 12-year-old Tamir Rice, who was shot while brandishing a BB gun in Cleveland, Ohio. The media insist on calling it “a toy gun,” though photos depict a BB gun obviously designed to look like a regular automatic pistol. Poor Tamir Rice was foolishly acting out a childish mime show, pretending to shoot at passers-by. Someone in the neighborhood might have advised him that this was a good way to get himself shot. But no one did. Now, why was that?

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648 Responses to “Ferguson”

  1. Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 9:51 am #

    The Times of Israel sees your point Jim.


    Although the victim is a poor poster-child for the issue of police thuggery, just as in Gaza/Hamas, there are Legions of innocent victims without press coverage.

    • outsider December 3, 2014 at 10:52 am #

      I does seem like these race hustlers keep picking poor cases to turn into media circuses. The last big one, of course, involved wanna be cop Zimmerman, who was even told by 911 not to engage Travon Martin. His poor decision resulted in a teenager’s death, but the cops had nothing to do with that one.

      But I wouldn’t equate the killing of the 12 year-old with the Brown case – at least no without hearing more facts. It seems pretty damning that the younger of the two cops shot Tamir Rice within two seconds of arriving at the scene.

  2. Petro December 1, 2014 at 9:54 am #

    I’ve been embarrassed by my white, middle-class “progressive/liberal” friends and acquaintances (who mostly have no first-hand experience with the vast poor black underclass that populates a neighboring city) express knee-jerk outrage at the Ferguson grand jury decision. I’m disappointed and surprised (perhaps naively) that they can’t respect the evidence and its lengthy examination by a legally-impanelled body. They are as easily manipulated as right-wing nuts.

    I think we live in a security state verging on a police state, and agree that the police can get out of control on occasion just as mobs or crazy individuals will sometimes. But individuals and communities (of every color) have to start making better choices and setting better examples for acceptable and sensible behavior.

    • orbit7er December 1, 2014 at 10:00 am #

      Having served on a Grand jury I know the reality is that Grand Juries are all controlled by the prosecutor who is allowed to control the agenda. This was well covered by http://democracynow.org and also 538 which pointed out
      “According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, the most recent year for which we have data. Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.”
      It is one thing if a jury trial after hearing all the evidence and not just the prosecutor decided to acquit Darren Wilson. But to not even indict indicates deliberate sabotage by the prosecutor as in the Trayvon Martin case…

      • James Howard Kunstler December 1, 2014 at 10:38 am #

        The fact that the grand jury is supervised by the DA does not alter the facts of the case, and suggesting that it does only obfuscates the the truth.

        • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 10:52 am #

          Except that a GJ will indict a ‘ham sandwich’ if the DA wants it.

          A four-hour speech by Wilson with no cross-examination perverts the process. It’s not that difficult to skirt untoward aspects of the evidence when there is no counter argument for the jury to hear.

          • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 12:47 pm #

            And completely alters the facts as the grand jury see them.

          • Ted Stosterone December 1, 2014 at 2:12 pm #

            All of the armchair attorneys want to debate the intricacies of this trial, but it doesn’t change the fact that Brown wasn’t killed because of racism, he was killed because he made a series of horrible decisions.

            And with all of the innocent people killed in this country for a variety of reasons, I’m supposed to be outraged and take to the streets because of this guy—who was apparently both a criminal and bully? And after a mixed race grand jury found no cause to prosecute the cop? I think I’ll stay home.

          • outsider December 3, 2014 at 11:21 am #

            Exactly right, Ben. The purpose of a grand jury is to determine whether there is enough evidence to indict, not to determine guilt or innocence. Ted S mentions the “intricacies of this trial” – but that’s the problem, there was no trial. It could be argued that the grand jury went way beyond it’s legal parameters when they shut the door on this case. Grand juries act in secret – we have public trials for good reason.

          • lsjogren December 4, 2014 at 12:38 pm #

            Thus the flaw with grand juries is that they often promiscuously trigger trials that have no merit. And in this case it did not.

            So the fact that the system did justice in this case is an indictment of the system.

            The Orwellian logic of the left knows no bounds.

        • Shining Hector December 1, 2014 at 11:28 am #

          The fact is the GJ was a sham proceeding. It’s not the place to determine innocence or guilt, but that’s what the prosecutor shoehorned it into. As soon as two witnesses disagreed, there was probable cause for a real trial, with little things like cross-examination, jury sequestering, etc. It should have been over in an afternoon and left the thorough examination of the evidence (or “facts”) to a more proper venue.

          I also somehow doubt you’d accept a four hour carefully prepared and rehearsed speech with no cross-examination from, say, the Fed Chairman or Goldman Sachs CEO as the 100% unvarnished “facts” and therefore beyond all questioning and debate on matters you might have a more personal interest in.

          Though that’s the beautiful thing about Ferguson. We have a tarnished martyr killed in questionable circumstances. People can side with him or against him based on their personal expectations and life experiences, with an abundance of material to bolster their position and fuel their attacks on those who take the opposite position. Funny how the absolutely clear-cut cases of police brutality or justifiable homicide never seem to get much attention.

          • Petro December 1, 2014 at 12:04 pm #

            Perhaps a full-fledged trial would have been better, in the end. But I suspect that if the jury returned a “not-guilty” or a “guilty-of-some-lesser charge” verdict, there’d still be burning and looting and smashed windows. The police officer is assumed to be guilty of something, just like so many black teenage males are assumed to be guilty of something.

            What a mess we’re in, race-wise. I am not hopeful for “resolution”—whatever that would be.

        • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 9:33 am #

          I’m sorry. When you are part of the .01 %, orbit has a point. The use of numbers does not obfuscate, it qualifies.

          • MikeN December 3, 2014 at 5:35 am #

            this case itself is a .01% case.

            it may be that the DA privately felt the circumstances didn’t event warrant a referral to the grand jury, but was feeling too much heat not to do it.

        • Exscotticus December 2, 2014 at 10:32 am #

          And what exactly were the facts? I ask because the following chart depicts numerous witnesses all disagreeing on exactly what happened…


          So at what point was the veracity of these witnesses tested by cross-examination? More to the point, who at this GJ proceeding represented the interests of Michael Brown? Certainly not the prosecutor, who was repeatedly asked to recuse himself by Brown’s family, friends, and the community.

          Do you really believe that if Wilson had been a regular average guy—you or me—instead of a cop, that he would have enjoyed a three-month-long GJ proceeding such as the one we witnessed? Recall that George Zimmerman—the guy who shot Trayvon Martin—didn’t even get a GJ! Nope—the prosecutor just skipped it altogether, charged him, and went straight to a criminal trial.

          The fact is that this GJ proceeding was a farce. It was atypical in every respect. The fact is that GJ proceedings don’t work when police are the perps, because of the inherent conflict of interest in having a prosecutor—someone who works with the police every day—lead the GJ. The fact is that Grand Juries are, in general, nothing more than political cover for prosecutors. In many states, a prosecutor can indict with or without a GJ. A prosecutor can even ignore the “verdict” of a GJ and indict anyway. Let’s not pretend that some kind of trial took place and that justice was served. The anger doesn’t come from the “verdict”; it comes from the fact that our system of justice is clearly not being applied equally to all.

          Now please excuse me while I return to reading the news about yet another bank rigging yet another financial indicator for which no one will ever see a day in jail.

          • Shining Hector December 3, 2014 at 4:34 pm #

            Exactly. It’s not about Brown’s personal character, it’s about cops running around with impunity thanks to a having friendly DA to cover for them. A civilian in the same position as Wilson would undoubtedly have gone to trial, just like Zimmerman did.

            Now 2 days later, the cop who choked Eric Garner to death also walks, thanks again to a months-long grand jury farce orchestrated by his friendly neighborhood prosecutor.

            Arrested for selling loose cigarettes, never laid a hand on the cops, the entire episode videotaped, and half dozen cops involved just sat there staring down at him as he breathed his last. After being put in a chokehold that had been expressly banned by the NYPD for its lethality. The GJ returns no indictment for any charges whatsoever.

            I really challenge anyone to defend this one.

      • shabbaranks December 1, 2014 at 2:57 pm #

        Was your decision on the grand jury “controlled” by the prosector assigned to the case for which you heard testimony? If so, why did you permit yourself to be controlled?

    • lsjogren December 1, 2014 at 10:06 am #

      Lefties often talk about how widespread police brutality is.

      How in the hell am I supposed to know one way or another.

      I suspect that they base their views on pure emotion and actually have no factual basis for their stance.

      And I suspect that is also true of those who claim that police brutality is an aberration that almost never happens.

      All I know is that the one issue the establishment left media chose as a showcase for the problem turned out to NOT be a case of police brutality.

      You can see how it happened though. The incident occurred. Several witnesses claimed that Wilson was the aggressor, with stories of him shooting Brown in the back and so on.

      The media, like vultures, swooped in to make this apparent story of police brutality a showcase story. They were so infused with their “if it bleeds it leads” mentality that they suspended any healthy skepticism to withhold judgement until the evidence was more complete.

      In retrospect, it is completely to be expected that some of Brown’s buddies would have lied about the incident in an attempt to prejudice the case in Brown’s favor.

      And in a way they succeeded. The hate mercenaries like Sharpton have no doubt made some good money off this, and while they were unable to lynch the officer in a court of law, they did succeed in destroying his career.

      The one negative for them, however, is that they have made the public increasingly skeptical that police brutality is a problem. If it is so widespread, why is it that whenever they select an example to showcase it turns out to be bogus?

      • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 2:14 pm #

        “How in the hell am I supposed to know one way or another.”

        Do some research?

        “In retrospect, it is completely to be expected that some of Brown’s buddies would have lied about the incident in an attempt to prejudice the case in Brown’s favor.”

        Is it also to be expected that some of Wilson’s “buddies” might do the same?

        • WW December 1, 2014 at 4:49 pm #

          Except that jone of Wilsons buddies were witnesses. The bulk of the witness statements that supported Wilson were black members of yhe community. Many of those supporting MB actually admitted lying under oath. MBs buddy changed his statement no less than four times as it became apparent that other witnesses and forensic evidence did not support his lies.
          It is a scientific fact that MBs blood and fragments of flesh were in the officers car, on his gun and clothing. The position of these demonstrate that the struggle took place in the car as Wilson said. The shell casing were found outside the car in exactly the place Wilson said he got out and pursued MB to. The gunshot wounds all appear in places consistent with a man charging the officer. The witness statements concur with that.
          As in the Zimmerman case the press knowingly published lies and whipped a good old race war for their headlines.
          For and excellent analysis of the Zimmerman case read Masood Ayoobs article.
          it is interesting to note that not one riot, vigil, or statement from Obama has been made about the shooting of Gilbert Collar even after two years. Nor have any occured for the more recent death of Dillon Taylor. Both were unarmed, both substantially smaller than MB and posed not threat to the officer. Yet no column inches.

          • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 5:05 pm #

            “Except that none of Wilsons buddies were witnesses.”

            No, his “buddies” were the people in charge of the proceedings.

      • Helen Highwater December 1, 2014 at 9:14 pm #

        Who are these “lefties” you mention so often – anyone who doesn’t agree with your point of view?

      • outsider December 3, 2014 at 11:37 am #

        Don’t assume that only “lefties” talk about police brutality. Libertarians often make the best case against it, as well as our disintegration into a police state.

    • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 10:11 am #

      And your parallel example would be Tiananmen Sq or Allende’s Chile?

    • wardoc December 1, 2014 at 11:12 am #

      Why would one expect left wing nuts to be any more different from right wing nuts, than are democrats from republicans. It appears that tribal yearnings cloud our vision to the point where we so desire to be part of this team (e.g. progressives, left wing, etc, ad nauseum) or that (right wing, tea party, etc., ad nauseum), that we produce the delusion that these groups, all little more than sociallly adept psychopaths pandering to corporate sponsors and lobby money, are somehow different from each other in a meaningful way. Fact is, the two heads of a two headed snake are both snake.

      Very sad. Social dementia comes in many insidious forms.


    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 12:33 pm #

      “But individuals and communities (of every color) have to start making better choices and setting better examples for acceptable and sensible behavior.”

      Agreed. And I would first like to see this standard applied to those with wealth and power. People who can actually act in and upon the world in which they live.

      Human organizations fall apart from the top down in my view, and Ferguson is, above all, another example of the failure of those with the power to act to do so. The people who live in Ferguson have, as the situation demonstrated, no power. And since many Americans actually believe the poor and powerless will bring America to its knees (because that’s what the demagogues tell them), when those Ferguson residents act out of the frustration and stress that comes from generations of poverty and racism (read the article “The Making of Ferguson” in The American Prospect; then talk about “knee-jerk liberals.”) the finger is pointed at – of course – the victims.

      While the evidence in this situation may support the grand jury decision, the larger question of what happened and why is, as always in America, not even investigated. We continue to obsess on symptoms, which in turn leads to our society’s addiction to violence as the only way out of a problem. It’s like Barnum’s sign, “This way to the egress.” THAT is what I call knee-jerk, and it’s a response manipulated by the folks who can afford to do such things.

      • lsjogren December 1, 2014 at 1:44 pm #

        If we are to dig into root causes, I think we will find that a key aspect of this is that lax border enforcement leads to a flood of foreign workers eager to work hard at low wages, this strips away any hope of those in America at the bottom rung of the economic ladder to work their way up, this leads to the creation of communities such as Ferguson in which a large percentage of the people have no hope for a better future, and that leads to a community that lashes out in frustration and anger.

        • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 4:38 pm #

          ” that lax border enforcement leads to a flood of foreign workers”

          OOPS !

          • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 4:39 pm #

            Next we’ll be subjected to diatribes about lax border enforcement in Gaza.

        • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 5:23 pm #

          Nope. Deeper still. But nice try, dragging in another marginalized minority.

          It’s the system itself. The US economic system itself depends on all that cheap labor. Some industries would literally collapse without them. Industries like what is called the hospitalities industry, and then there’s meat cutting, the most dangerous job in America in terms of deaths and injuries. Plus thousands of small construction companies and the industries like rental housing and small businesses that utilize them.

          Once the US wakes up to the reality of its own economy, its low-wage economy, and is willing to live in terms of that reality, and once folks realize that the violence caused by “people” like Koch Industries in one year is far more damaging than all the urban violence in the last century – then maybe we’ll have a sane society. But as long as people believe propaganda clearly meant to keep them divided the suffering will continue and the dead bodies will continue to pile up.

        • Subvert December 1, 2014 at 8:51 pm #

          So merca’s unemployment problems have nothing to do with the richest of the rich exporting (offshoring) most of the well paying jobs that used to exist here? Wow, what a relief, I used to think that the elites were fucking us all in the ass, now I know they’re truly beneficent overlords with my best interests at heart! I feel SO loved!

          The truth is, the jobs that the immigrants are taking are not well-paying, secure or enjoined by any sort of benefits. These are jobs no pinche gringo wants, as evidenced by the fact that every year, millions of dollars of crops rot in the fields for lack of workers to pick them. Where are all the flag waving Mercans when these jobs are on offer? Would you like to pick veggies, berries or fruit for $3:65 an hour with no benefits, no time off, no contract, no legal recourse if mistreated and with the constant threat of deportation hanging over your head as a means of control? But wait! The deal gets better!! You also get to live in a cardboard shack on the edge of the fields with no running water (drink from the toxic irrigation channels Pedro, it’s a lovely chem-soup!), no toilet (or a porta-potty if you’re lucky), no proper cooking facilities, no laundry, no electricity, no phone, no refrigerator and no transportation. On top of this already luxurious package, you get to spend all day and night bathing in the toxic mélange of pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, insecticides, chemical fertilizers and other biocides that grace our nutritious, safe-as-mother’s-milk produce! Aren’t you the lucky one, precious!

          Turn off Faux Snooze and go to the agricultural areas of this cuntry and witness this glorious package of lavish gifts bestowed upon the poorest of the poor by the richest of the rich. Then tell me all about the poor immigration policies (which never change because the wealthy profit from both sides of the situation – cheap labor for their businesses AND prisoners for their private borderland gulags.)

  3. orbit7er December 1, 2014 at 9:54 am #

    Unfortunately this is off the mark. There is way too much violence to go around in the USA fueled by the NRA and the gun merchants relentless attempt to arm everyone everywhere for their profit.
    The US has 30,000 gun deaths a year, more people in prison than any other country on Earth, and wastes $1 Trillion on endless Wars of violence. There were 400 people killed by police in the US last year which seems a very high percentage of all gun deaths.
    Every other month there is another gun massacre at a school, McDonalds, church, you name it!
    Yet Corporations are making billions off “Homeland Security” against a foreign terrorist threat which does not exist and has never killed as many as all these massacres by predominately white males.
    The focus on race versus class is a classic time-honored strategy since the slave-holders days of pitting working class versus poor while they both get screwed by their Corporate overlords.
    There is certainly still racism but the real problem is the 400 plutocrats who basically own the USA and its politicians lock, stock and barrel.

    • lsjogren December 1, 2014 at 10:10 am #

      Most violence with the use of firearms occurs in the inner cities.

      To have effective gun control, you would not only need strong restrictions on gun ownership, but you would have to have very aggressive policing looking for firearms in the possession of people in inner city neighborhoods, and that would the police would need to hassle black people a lot more than they do now.

      Do you think the left would put up with that?

      The left would never tolerate the actions that would actually need to be taken to actually achieve any substantial reduction in violence committed with the use of firearms.

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 1:00 pm #

        “Most violence with the use of firearms occurs in the inner cities.”

        Still talking about symptoms.

        WHY are there so many guns in America’s inner cities?

        Fun with statistics: The question is not the % of violent deaths caused by guns. The question is why there are so many gun deaths period. Because there are so many guns? Just the beginning of the answer. But then there is a direct correlation between number of guns and the level of violence in a society. Also a correlation between poverty and violence. But then, what does that mean? Maybe another partial answer: Severe income inequality leads to increased violence. Then again, why?

        Another question: Why do all those peace-loving, non-inner-city gun owners feel the need to be armed for the battle field? And why are even school districts adding more guns and ammo to their arsenals? And I don’t even have to present a graphic of the president of the NRA as proof that these folks are plain crazy.

        While everyone is distracted by videos of Black folks doing whatever they can just to get people’s attention.

        • lsjogren December 1, 2014 at 1:46 pm #

          Thus I believe you are acknowledging that gun control is at best an attempt to deal with symptoms rather than root causes.

          • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 5:28 pm #

            Absolutely. Especially when the commitment is so half-hearted, mostly just rhetoric. Even when children’s lives are involved. A society with no backbone.

            But then, that’s all we have in America – rhetoric. Lots of talk and speechifying. The illusion of action.

            Another e.g.: How’s things going with rape in the military? I sure did hear a lot of talk.

            Rhetoric and guns & ammo. That’s America.

    • beantownbill. December 1, 2014 at 11:15 am #

      Do you know for sure that the NRA fuels gun violence? Does it have some mysterious power to possess gun owners’ minds and tell them to shoot people? Or are you stating as fact what in reality is your opinion? Are human beings too irresponsible to own guns, and who makes that decision? Could it be possible that the majority of gun owners are responsible? How would anyone know? Did someone interview every gun owner in the country to determine this?

      Supposedly, 100 million guns are in the country. Even if the average gun owner has 5 guns, that makes for 20 million gun owners in America. Using your figure of 30,000 annual deaths per year, and assuming one murderer per fatal shooting, this means 30,000 out of 20 million gun owners, or only .15 of 1 percent are violent murderers and 99.85% are not. Hardly the Wild Wild West. Also, there are 20,000 or 30,000 annual traffic deaths? Should we ban drivers, too?

      I’m not picking on you, and I mean no disrespect, but I’m big on critical thinking just as Q is big on grammar. Even as Q himself makes an occasional grammatical error, so I, too, sometimes don’t think logically.
      But I try.

      Gun control is not a valid issue, IMO. I’d be willing to discuss it, but not until all drugs are made legal. Who has the right to tell someone what they can put into their body? I wonder how many of those 30,000 deaths have to do with the illegal drug business? I wonder how many jailed prisoners are the result of the so-called war on drugs, which like all our wars since WW2, we have lost.

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 1:18 pm #

        “Do you know for sure that the NRA fuels gun violence?”

        You are way too literal. For the NRA to go so far as to say that the Second Amendment gives every American the right to own battlefield weapons – THAT is what we mean by fueling gun violence. To say that we’re not going to control the presence of these weapons in the general population, even in children’s schools – THAT is what we mean by fueling gun violence. It creates a culture that reinforces irresponsible users by opposing any regulation of what are in fact deadly weapons.

        And just as it doesn’t matter that 90% of us don’t drink and drive, and we still have regulations about when and how to use an auto, it also doesn’t matter that most gun owners are responsible.

        As one US Senator wisely pointed out, we don’t have regulations for saints; we have them for sinners. The NRA won’t even allow that.

        Your brief consideration of drugs is just too simple. It is of course comforting to think of all this as coming down to drugs. These are all just symptoms – symptoms of poverty. But in America poor people do illegal drugs, and Wall Street bankers snort taxpayer-subsidized blow.

        The drug war is a business, and like all wars since WWII it is not to be won. It’s a $50Billion/year business (at least), and it’s permanent unless a whole lot of other things in this country change. A whole lot of things.

        “Made by hand” to me means a whole lot more than how we make stuff. It means a complete change of world view – how we see ourselves and our place in the universe. And THAT is guaranteed to threaten our masters.

        • coast watcher December 1, 2014 at 3:47 pm #

          How do you define “battlefield weapons”? AFAIK military assault rifles, grenade launchers, machine guns, etc. are rather rare in civilian hands. Or are “battlefield weapons” the new scary moniker for the weapons that used to be called “assault rifles”?

          • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 5:30 pm #

            Anything that’s designed to kill something besides a deer! Or can be converted to function as an assault rifle. Or the large ammo capabilities some have.

            Remember, it’s supposed to be all about hunting and sport!

          • newworld December 1, 2014 at 7:07 pm #

            2A is not about sport, damn that Gutenberg is a tard.

      • WW December 1, 2014 at 4:55 pm #

        Beantown Bill, there are over 300 million firearms in circulation in the USA with some 40 percent of households owning at least one. That alone reduces your statistic to minuscule proportions.

        • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 6:13 pm #

          To respond to newworld: Hunting and sport shooting are the basis of the whole NRA argument. Those who want to fantasize about some 2nd Amendment solution, and envision a wild west shoot out with the “Guv’mint” should pay closer attention to how the US government responds to any sort of protest or disagreement.

          And if you can’t wage war for an extended period of time you will lose. Even if you start out with weapons equal to those of the USA!

    • BackRowHeckler December 1, 2014 at 12:00 pm #

      The NRA? What the hell do they have to do with it?

      “Burn this b#tch down”, pretty much sums up the mentality of the ‘Community” in Ferguson, Mo.

      “Burn this b#tch down”, needs to be adopted as the official motto of St Louis, with a huge neon sign hung off the arch near the Mississippi River.


      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 1:34 pm #

        So much lashing out today. Well, unfortunately JHK set the tone.
        He does disturb me at times. I expect folks to see that the industrial madness that has us all trapped, and the way out of it, includes the millions of Americans who live in this country’s Fergusons.

        They are the most extreme example of what is being done to ALL of us. But keeping us divided against each other is the American Way. That way, while we’re constantly worrying about all the things our masters tell us divide us, we don’t see the hands that are picking our pockets.

        Divide and conquer. The basic HR strategy of the American ruling elites. Fight over everything except what’s really important. Rinse and repeat.

        The answer, of course, is to elect a President who doesn’t have a penis!

        • hineshammer December 1, 2014 at 4:47 pm #

          I guess that leaves Hillary Clinton out of it.

          • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 5:30 pm #

            There are those who just might disagree.

      • Exscotticus December 2, 2014 at 11:57 am #

        “Burn this b#tch down”, pretty much sums up the mentality of people for whom extreme injustice is the rule and not the exception, who are poor and marginalized with no significant stake in the system and no hope of ever thriving under the current regime. Not condoning it in any way, but you can’t begin to address it until you understand it.

        It’s sad that Ferguson devolved into a racial issue instead of symbolizing America’s increasing discomfort with the militarization of civilian police, the increasing misuse of SWAT teams and no-knock warrants, the increasing misuse of civil forfeiture, and other issues that affect all of us regardless of race.

    • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 12:29 pm #

      Yeah, I agree with the other commenters that it is difficult to pin urban violence on the NRA and a gun-positive culture.

      Ferguson blacks showed you don’t need guns to be violent and destructive.

      Brown used his own massive body to assault the little Asian storekeeper (why isn’t anyone defending the minority-owned businesses that are terrorized by Ferguson “stitches for snitches” youth?).

      The peaceful protestors did a lot of damage with fire and bottles.

      Here’s a St. Louis story from the weekend about a group of black teenaged who murdered a young white guy by attacking him with hammers. http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/bosnian-community-in-st-louis-outraged-over-fatal-hammer-attack/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

      What are the chances that CNN or the NYTimes will report on the incidence of black on white violence?

      Living in Chicago, I witness black misbehavior on a daily basis. The mainstream papers (the Chicago Tribune, the SunTimes) are too PC to report on it. But the niche is being filled by valuable community blogs (HeyJackass, CrimeinWrigleyvilleandBoystown) that use CPD statistics and police scanner analysis to let residents know who exactly is targeting whom. In the near north side neighborhoods, young black men routinely target whites in robberies and thefts. And of course on the south and west sides, blacks are gunning down blacks at a spectacular rate.

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 1:45 pm #

        I came to this blog to get away from the goobers versus libertards BS at most online discussion sites.

        If you cannot see beyond skin color and acts of violence committed by folks who have absolutely no power in America, then you are really just what many describe as gutless liberals. If you cannot see the acts of violence committed against them every day – in the society in which they live; in this “Beacon of Democracy” called America; where they work, BY their bosses; where they live, BY their own governments; even when they try to vote – where a life they cannot have is held out to them each day; and they know, they know, they are at the bottom of the food chain in this country and that no one cares – If you cannot see all of this then what DO you see?

        Try to put yourself in such a position and imagine what YOU would do. And when you do, remember that the American Dream is DOA for about 75% of us.

        • shabbaranks December 1, 2014 at 3:05 pm #

          Gutenberg, what would you do? What do you do? How do you do it? Recall the following:

          “The only questions that really matter are the ones you ask yourself.”

          Ursula K. Le Guin

          • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 5:33 pm #

            Don’t understand your questions. I’m retired and I read a lot of history, especially WWII.

            And how does Ursula LeGuin’s statement disagree with what I said? If that was your intention.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 3:10 pm #

          Check out some of the discoveries and insights about human evolutionary biology. A good and readable introduction is Nicholas Wade’s book that came out earlier this year, “A Troublesome Inheritance: Genes, Race and Human History.” Wade is the former editor of Nature … you may also recognize him as a long-time genetics reporter from the NYTimes. Ie, not a goober or a libertard.
          Other good “generalist” books on this subject include Stephen Pinker’s “Blank Slate,” and “The Better Angels of Our Nature,” as well as well as anthropologists Cochran and Harpending’s “The 10,000 Year Explosion.” If you like blogs, check out Steve Sailer’s blog on the Unz Review.

          Reading about how the different human groups evolved to meet the demands of their particular environments shines a light on some of the stubborn problems caused by our multiracial society. This fact is widely recognized by sociologists and evolutionary biologists, although there is extreme political pressure for them no to talk about it.

          • coast watcher December 1, 2014 at 3:55 pm #

            Of course they won’t talk about it. James Watson, the man who discovered the structure of DNA and won a Nobel Prize for it, became an unperson after he made a comment about IQ and Africans. He was ostracized by the academic community, stripped of all his board memberships, and is now putting his Nobel up for auction. Who wants to face that kind of punishment for speaking on non-PC issues?

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 4:45 pm #

            Yeah, and last year Jason Richwine got “watsoned.” Nicholas Wade himself retired shortly after the publication of “Troublesome Inheritance.” He’s an old man, but I wonder if it was voluntary. Someone has a list of all the academics who have been professionally damaged for speaking out about group differences in IQ.

            I’m optimistic about advances in genetics and evolutionary anthropology causing a sea change in thinking about race. The orthodoxy that race is constructed, etc., just doesn’t hold any water in the face of study after study showing the heredity, as our ancestors knew, is extremely powerful.

            My worry is that developments in our understanding of the biological basis of group differences will come too late, and that the nation will have been demographically transformed into a nation of perpetually hostile and incompatible groups.

            I predict geographical racial segregation and the dissolution of the federal government. Which wouldn’t be a terrible thing.

          • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 5:43 pm #

            As long as you don’t use this to reinforce an ideology I’m fine with it. It’s when you suggest that a certain “race’s” “evolutionary biology” is somehow more anti-social than someone else’s that I draw the line. When you say that and do not include the history of Black people in this country, people who lived for over 100 years in fear and terror, and suggest that they are somehow more of a danger than the bankers who continue to steal from us – that I do not get at all.

            Please provide a similar description of the “evolutionary biology” of the behaviors of the mostly white Wall Street bankers who, as I said, continue to destroy this country’s economy.

            Scapegoating poor Black folks is about as primitive a behavior as I can imagine.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 5:53 pm #

            Um, I think you’re going to be really disappointed about what evolutionary biology shows are natural group differences in time preference, IQ, propensity to violence, and fertility. It doesn’t have anything to do with ideology. It’s just reality.

            This is not to say by any means that evolutionary biology supports ideologies of white supremacism. It just shows that Europeans and Asians have evolved over the last 10,000 years with skill sets that are more conducive to complex economies, stable population growth, and non-violence.

            I think it’s really delusional and cruel for westerners to assume that all groups are going to thrive in first world economies.

            I think it’s precisely the corporations and bankers whom you rightfully resent that want to import millions of low-skilled third world immigrants into the first world to keep wages low and consumption high.

            The lower the population to resources ratio, the better off everyone is.

          • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 7:27 pm #

            “It just shows that Europeans and Asians have evolved over the last 10,000 years with skill sets that are more conducive to complex economies, stable population growth, and non-violence.”

            Hahahahaha. Have you taken a look at the past 150 years of European history lately?

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 8:28 pm #

            “Hahahahaha. Have you taken a look at the past 150 years of European history lately?”

            Yes, quite a lot, have you noticed the fertility rate in the first world? Europeans had a big demographic boom after the Industrial revolution, which then levels off, and has even begun to decline.

            The fertility rate for whites has been around replacement rate for a long time, as it was before the Industrial Revolution. All our growth comes from immigration from the hyper-fecund third world.

            You might check out the work of the economic historian, Gregory Clark, at UC Davis. He does economic historian from a Malthusian perspective, with an eye toward fertility and mortality rates, and how they affect quality of life.

            He argues that Europeans are “genetically capitalist.” That for centuries and centuries, European reproductive culture was based on downward mobility. The rich had a lot of kids, the poor had few or zero kids. The result was that upperclass virtues like low time preference, thrift, pacifism, were gradually spread throughout the population.

          • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 10:15 pm #

            Ok, you’ve covered population rates — which can also easily and probably more accurately explained through economic and social factors. Now tell me all about European pacifism.

          • dmeehan December 2, 2014 at 8:08 pm #

            I’m curious as to the implications of this racial genetic theory disparity theory as far as policy goes. For the sake of argument, let’s say you are correct and that there are genetic differences among races that affects certain groups ability to compete in a modern western civilization. (Am I stating your hypothesis correctly?)

            And that the research you’ve read points to certain markers that contribute to this: IQ, propensity to violence, time preference (not sure what that is), and fertility. And that these markers on average, are lower for certain races.

            Is that a fair place to start?

        • newworld December 1, 2014 at 7:10 pm #

          Do you always excuse racist behavior on pampered youths who wear better clothes than I do? There was a hate crime committed in St Louis and you are responsible for creating that climate of hate and you conspire here to cover it up and excuse it. You are one evil human being.

        • Subvert December 1, 2014 at 9:14 pm #

          “you cannot see beyond skin color and acts of violence committed by folks who have absolutely no power in America, then you are really just what many describe as gutless liberals. If you cannot see the acts of violence committed against them every day – in the society in which they live”

          Amen, brother! Thank you for bringing up this point. This condition is termed “Structural Violence” and is rampant in ANY hierarchic system. Violence only flows Down the pyramid, never up it, towards the elites at the top. Should violence flow uphill, the perpetrators are punished in an outrageously disproportionate manner to those who commit violence against those below or laterally. Look what happens if you kill a cop, who are only marginally “above” the slaves. They’re just the Muscle for the elite, but must be protected so they can continue to protect the elites from the masses. There are some good comments about this in “Zeitgeist: Moving Forward” which you can view for free online.

          Mankind’s biggest fault is short sightedness. If we retained the long historical memory of our past and the lessons learned over time, we could avoid most of our problems. None of this stuff is new, it’s been going on as long as we’ve had hierarchal societies. It’s just that every generation forgets while those in power don’t. Hence, nothing changes.

    • DevilsTheory December 1, 2014 at 5:27 pm #

      @ orbit7er- Weren’t you an asshole in a previous remark?

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 5:46 pm #

        Re: IQ and Africans. The issue is never the knowledge itself, it’s what is done with that knowledge.

        Setting aside the whole question of disparities in measuring IQs in different populations. Who asked the questions?

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 8:33 pm #

          IQ is different that knowledge. IQ is just raw cognitive power or intelligence. You can be uneducated and have a high IQ. Knowledge usually refers to learning–to remembered information or skills.

          I agree that the purpose of intelligence is crucial. As an environmentalist and animal welfare activist, my problem with Western society is that we’ve used our intelligence to exploit the environment and nonhuman animals.

          By the way, another reason why our constant “conversation about race” annoys me is because it distracts from real issues, like the carrying capacity of the earth and the horrific things were doing to farm animals. Whenever blacks and hispanics and muslims complain about how awful it is to put up with whites, I want to show them videos of how beautiful and fully sensate animals are treated in factory farms.

          • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 1:06 pm #

            That’s wonderful, but pictures of people living in conditions I wouldn’t subject farm animals to are more about where I would start.

            A society that won’t feed all its children isn’t very likely to be moved by the inhumane treatment of farm animals.

            And the millions of refugees created by our war in Iraq would be another place I’d start. And all the people in the world being treated less than humanely.

            BTW, we could feed them all, but our profit-based food-distribution system is too inefficient.

  4. Neon Vincent December 1, 2014 at 9:56 am #

    After Zimmerman was acquitted, I said I would post “the law is an ass with music by Leonard Cohen.” I found something else to post instead. This time, I followed through. Cohen’s “Everybody Knows” as performed by Concrete Blonde seemed like a good response to the grand jury decision, as well as to the general situation.

    Speaking of the larger context, Saudi Arabia opened a trap door on oil prices on Friday when they decided not to decrease production. Crude oil fell more than 10% in one day, the largest drop since the depths of the Great Recession in 2009. This may be good for consumers now, but it sets up the next recession nicely. All that has to happen is for crude to rise back up to $100 in a year or less for the 50% rise in one year recession trigger to be pulled. That event is entirely within the realm of reasonable expectations.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 1:47 pm #

      Because it is so easy for them to do?

      No “Happy Motoring” in the SF Bay Area BTW.

  5. lsjogren December 1, 2014 at 9:58 am #

    “First were the cable TV news venues, led by the race hustlers at CNN, whose limitless pandering to the intemperance of black viewers played a large part in cultivating the mood of injustice that failed to square with the objective reality of Michael Brown’s shooting at the hands of policeman Darren Wilson.”

    I doubt many black people watch CNN. I think it’s more of a political porno network for some elements of the upscale white yuppie left.

  6. saltydog December 1, 2014 at 9:59 am #

    Correction. There are more than two idiots on The New York Times op-ed page.

    • lsjogren December 1, 2014 at 10:12 am #

      It would be easier to count the non idiots.

      • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 12:55 pm #

        As many as Fox?

        • cornpone2014 December 1, 2014 at 1:13 pm #

          no The New York Times is ahead by a wide margin

          • lsjogren December 1, 2014 at 1:47 pm #

            To answer this question all one would need to do is find out how many employees the New York Times has and how many employees Fox News has.

  7. K-Dog December 1, 2014 at 10:05 am #

    His buddy was surprised they were not stopped by two different cars after the cigars were disappeared. Then when one does Michael Brown gets attitude is non-compliant and puts the officer in fear of his life. The officer responded like anyone else would. Like you would if someone was trying to take a gun away from you.

    End of story, or it would be in a land of brains.

    • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 9:35 am #

      Maybe in a land of simpletons.

  8. lsjogren December 1, 2014 at 10:17 am #

    The main argument lefties make to claim that police brutality is a big problem is the fact that many black people claim that they experience or witness it in their community.

    But now skeptics can argue- “you mean like the people in Ferguson who claim Brown was a victim?”

    So the primary consequence of Ferguson is that the left handed the right a powerful tool in the debate over how big a problem is police brutality in this country.

    • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 12:39 pm #

      You are missing the point. Society went on trial when Wilson didn’t.

  9. Cold N. Holefield December 1, 2014 at 10:25 am #

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, our replacements keep coming. The snake keeps shedding its skin. Some of us are the most recently molted skin.

    Classy Immigration Policy

  10. newworld December 1, 2014 at 10:27 am #

    The taboos of modern life are slipping away, slowly at first but soon to be rather rapid. Once that dreaded word of shame “racist” goes by the wayside it will be like the Berlin Wall of taboos being broken into pieces.

    Thank you CNN and your allies and all your anti-white propaganda (which would be illegal in many countries via their hate speech laws).

    • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 12:33 pm #

      All can carry concealed without a permit in AZ but interestingly, we have few racist jokes.

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 1:56 pm #

        The centrist left, like President Obama, allows itself to be maneuvered and painted into a corner on almost every issue that comes down the pike.

        Combined with Reaganite Democrats like Bill Clinton, this makes for very little presence of even a liberal thought on the political horizon.

        And discussions like this are just further examples of what happens when you focus on symptoms rather than causes. Which is exactly what the right wing wants liberals to do. Keep sparring with your own shadows in that corner and, guess what, nothing will change.

        When you do this sort of thing, you are allowing them to define the terms of the debate.

  11. upstater December 1, 2014 at 10:29 am #

    Militarized police exist to protect the 0.0001% from the rabble and you know that Jim.

    The fact that cops “shoot first – ask questions later” is not a surprise. Wilson could have used a taser but didn’t. Why? Didn’t he shoot Brown 9 times? Does somebody have to look like Swiss cheese before the cops stop shooting.

    Just remember — militarized cops are there to protect the Hamptons and all similar enclaves. How the handled the Occupy movement is the proof.

    • orbit7er December 1, 2014 at 11:26 am #

      Actually the 400 killed by police is the police official number which still seems like a LOT to me! An independent group has been monitoring police deaths and comes up with the following:
      “While independent counts of police killings — such as those at Fatal Encounters, the Gun Violence Archive and Deadspin — develop, the most reliable database continues to be the Killed By Police Facebook page. Using media reports, the page has counted 1,709 police killings since May 1, 2013, and more than 950 so far in 2014.”


      Every black friend of mine has reported being harassed by the police. I was only given a trumped up traffic ticket once by a cop who used to hang outside Bell Labs no doubt trying to make his quota for fines. When I reported to the 99% white courtroom to challenge my ticket I was amazed that in a lily-white suburb over half the tickets were for non-whites. Rather hard to believe that blacks would represent 10x more traffic violations per capita than whites. It was also eye-opening in terms of the operations of the American Justice machine when affluent whites with their lawyers were pleaing down from violations like driving 50 MPH through a school zone. Since I refused to hire a lawyer I of course lost my case as did many blacks who did not want to spend hundreds of dollars to the lawyer’s guild.

      I am surprised that James Kunstler is getting sucked into the latest distraction from the true problems we face which is not about race but the destruction of this planet for all by plutocrats for their own gain. If we are serious about getting Green Transit and a shared public economy then the best allies are the poor who cannot afford “Happy Motoring” now and thus ironically peddle their bicycles to pump gas for those who can afford it. Divide and conquer is an eternal tactic for the rulers – it has been used to divide poor white sharecroppers from black slaves, or white working class from black workers joining unions.

      • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 12:40 pm #

        Oh this is my favorite. The faith in the logic of disparate impact. If there is any disparity in arrests, sentences, homicides, etc., it cannot be due to any real group differences. It has be caused by “structural racism,” legacy of slavery and Jim Crow, etc.

        Doubtless the racist news networks edited out all the white looters and arsonists in their coverage of the Ferguson riots.

        • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 2:12 pm #

          “due to any real group differences”

          What are the real group differences?

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 3:14 pm #

            There are real group differences in pathology (which is why different groups have particular medical issues), time preference, propensity to violence, and IQ, to name a few.

            I just posted this above, but it’s relevant here too: “Check out some of the discoveries and insights about human evolutionary biology. A good and readable introduction is Nicholas Wade’s book that came out earlier this year, “A Troublesome Inheritance: Genes, Race and Human History.” Wade is the former editor of Nature … you may also recognize him as a long-time genetics reporter from the NYTimes. Ie, not a goober or a libertard.
            Other good “generalist” books on this subject include Stephen Pinker’s “Blank Slate,” and “The Better Angels of Our Nature,” as well as well as anthropologists Cochran and Harpending’s “The 10,000 Year Explosion.” If you like blogs, check out Steve Sailer’s blog on the Unz Review.”

            There is a rich and growing literature on human biodiversity. It’s fascinating, but also worrisome given our commitment to having a multiracial society.

        • Ted Stosterone December 1, 2014 at 3:18 pm #

          You’d think they’d pick a better horse to hitch their wagon to than one who’d just gone in to rob a convenience store.

          • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:51 pm #

            That is a problem. Think of the recent OJ revelation.
            We white folks have some real gems as well.

            But this was just the spark. Question is, why was there a fire just sitting there waiting to be lit?

        • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 3:48 pm #

          I can’t seem to reply to your reply, so I’ll respond here.

          I think we have to define some terms here. When you say “group” what exactly are you referring to?

          • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 4:01 pm #

            I mean, scientifically, “black” is not a real thing (neither is “white”), so when you say “group” how are you defining that?

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 8:45 pm #

            Oh! Sorry I didn’t see that.

            When you’re talking about group differences, it’s all relative (literally). You group people according to genealogy and common descent, and you can have different levels of grouping depending on how narrow or wide (or recent or old) you want the grouping to be.

            So at the broadest level, anthropologists usually recognize three major races: Asian, African and European. These are groups of people that were separated geographically for tens of thousands of years, allowing for significant evolution (which is obvious to anyone who looks at them). At the next level, anthropologists will usually add the other continent-based groups, Native Americans and Australian aborigines.

            At boundaries where the populations meet, there’s been admixture. Palestinians are mixtures of African and Caucasians, for instance.

            But you can group people according to nation or ethnic group, or even class. Anytime there has been a lot of interbreeding going on for generations, differentiation occurs.

            By the way, biologists have the same problem with species, sub-species and varieties. It is relative, but that doesn’t mean that these groups aren’t real.

            If you’re dubious about the genetics of race, I really suggest Wade’s new book. It’s super entertaining and readable and fascinating.

            I’m in academia, so I’m familiar with people making the argument that “black” and “white” do not refer to real things. This is simply false. It’s like saying Neanderthal and homo sapiens don’t refer to real things.

          • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 10:10 pm #

            “Black” and “white” are not scientifically real things. Asian, African, European, are moreso — useful in certain ways, but also in a genetic sense, not.

            Someone could be genetically a majority European and look “black”. Someone could be a majority African, and look “white” and pass for white in a white society and avoid the pitfalls of the treatment a person with black skin endures.

        • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:48 pm #

          No, you are trying to edit out history.

          All too often in this country people try to erase the past. They refuse to take the long view of things. You simply cannot do that and survive. (Note: The Islamic world view spans centuries, and in that struggle our short-term mentality will be our undoing.)

          If you cannot acknowledge the violence that is done to the poor in this country, even as that violence is spread to the middle class, then as far as I am concerned you just don’t get it, and those in power will eat you alive – just like they have America’s working poor.

          The worst part about this is the way this country has let white-collar criminals steal us blind – while people are arguing over poor Blacks in Missouri. As usual Americans arguing over something they know nothing about. While our corporate masters pick our pockets. How convenient for them.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 8:47 pm #

            Did you know that the gap between white and black achievement has actually widened since the 60s? Many blame welfare and government aid policies, which encourage poor black women to have more children than they would otherwise. History does matter, and so does culture–but not in the way that you think.

        • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 6:37 pm #

          Define “real group differences.”

          BTW, the disparity in arrests and incarceration rates in this country is well documented.

          If you add selective enforcement, also well documented, then any talk of things like “real group differences” as mentioned above, becomes just another example of that very old issue of WHO is asking the questions.

          Social scientists deal with this issue all the time.

      • DevilsTheory December 1, 2014 at 5:30 pm #

        The FBI’s homicide count is wrong? You really ARE an asshole.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:02 pm #

      Thank you.

      As with the military, we never use just one bullet to ill a person. That’s because of “procurements.” They have to replace all the bullets they shoot. Now, according to TV, the cop would have to justify every one of those bullets. As citizens, we expect the question to be asked, “Why 9 shots?”

      Same for the military. That’s why, e.g., the average cost of each killed enemy soldier in Vietnam was over $2000! 35 years ago! Ka-Ching! Ka-Ching! Spending out money is what this is all about.

  12. JMR December 1, 2014 at 10:29 am #

    Tamir Rice is a completely different situation than Michael Brown. Tamir was a 12 year old kid playing with a toy gun. Most 12 year olds are not very wise in their actions and yes someone should have advised him to not do that — probably the police should have been the ones instead of shooting him within 2 seconds of showing up on the scene. This was the murder of a child; Michael Brown was a thug attacking a police officer.

    • WW December 1, 2014 at 5:11 pm #

      20 year old Dillion Taylor didn’t even have a toy gun or anything in his hands when police shot him dead. No outrage though, but then Dillion wasn’t black and the cop that shot him wasn’t white. Guess we’ll just have to wait on the die ins and chanting protesters……

    • newworld December 1, 2014 at 7:17 pm #

      I agree the cops were seemingly in the wrong, they shot that kid like a dog. I would guess since the kid was black that a good chance he was close to being retarded in the IQ dept, and then to top it off he came from a distinctly dysfunctional culture which celebrates World Star Hip Hop over civility.

      Anyway my favorite picture of Gentle Giant was him pointing a Glock at the camera while chewing a wad of cash, priceless.

  13. SteveO December 1, 2014 at 10:34 am #

    “The media insist on calling it “a toy gun,” though photos depict a BB gun obviously designed to look like a regular automatic pistol”

    I just pulled done of these “Airsoft” guns out of my son’s room. It looks so much like a black Smith&Wesson .357 it could very easily be mistaken for the real thing, even with good lighting.

    As you say, probably another bad choice for at martyr.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:05 pm #

      That a toy manufacturer is even allowed to make such a “toy” is the root of the problem.

      That and the 2 seconds. If that is true then I would think 2nd degree murder.

    • Subvert December 1, 2014 at 10:32 pm #

      SteveO – So because the gun looked real (like most kid’s toy guns these days) the cop couldn’t have possibly pulled up sideways in his car, taken shelter behind the engine block and yelled for the kid to drop it? Or maybe stayed in his bulletproof cruiser and used his bullhorn with speakers behind the front grille to slow down and asses the situation before coming out guns-a-blazing….at a 12 year old boy? He couldn’t have called for backup? He couldn’t have used his tiny, violence-addled brain to THINK before he shot a little kid?

      Where is the call for police to utilize the basic tactics they’re taught at the very least? This is supposed to be standard police policy; determine what the situation is BEFORE reacting to it with violence and deadly force.

      But not anymore! No, it’s now the world of Robocop, Dirty Harry and Judge Dredd – “I am the law, and you must die for appearing to possibly be thinking about maybe, kinda, sorta doing something that may appear to possibly be akin to something that may or may not at some point become somewhat dangerous! ….For your Safety!”

      We must kill you to keep you safe! We must take away all your rights to keep you secure! (rights that can be taken away are not rights, they’re privileges from your overlords) We must, we must , we must! Oh, so full of self-importance and arrogance, we must do all these things because we own you as property and we must keep our property safe and bringing in the money like a prostitute to her pimp.

      What if that was your son with his airsoft pistol out in the street acting like a…..um, normal 12 year old boy? Would he deserve to die for showing a lack of competent adult judgment at that age? The fact is, a cop should act with professional ethics, not road rage or grandiose visions of being Dirty fucking Harry. These borderline-retarded, military-brainwashed, trained killers (cops) work FOR us, we pay their wages and they are answerable to US. Or at least, that’s how it’s supposed to work. We all know they’re just Muscle for the Mobsters that own this cuntry, and apparently, they have carte blanche from Massa to kill the slaves if they get too “uppity.”

      • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 4:39 pm #

        Exactly! Well said. Why do the police kill us? I have yet to see an example of a good killing. Please if someone has a link to one, please post it. In the middle of a bank robbery, about to kill somebody (not himself), raping someone, abusing a child. Please someone post one.

  14. George December 1, 2014 at 10:35 am #

    “As is the case with many show-biz extravaganzas of our time the script had many authors.”

    And, as usually also is the case, there’s more than one director and more attention is paid to the over-the-top craft services contracts negotiated on behalf of the stars cast in the key roles than on the actual production which often winds up decidedly shoddy or kitsch as a consequence. And once the stars walk down the awards banquet red carpet attired in the latest Haute Couture, the production, supposedly the reason for the banquet in the first place, is forgotten.

  15. Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 10:39 am #

    It’s amazing how the landscape of commenters here, has changed in it’s complexion.

    • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 11:59 am #


      Are you feeling like you are in a minority?

      • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 12:05 pm #

        Somewhat, but I do hate an echo-chamber filled with yazoos and being white makes it even more interesting. It is a little disappointing I get few replies, but….the challenge !!!!

        • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

          Come to think about it, everybody is a minority.

  16. noel bodie December 1, 2014 at 10:39 am #

    The shooting of a 12 year old is the result of living in a gun culture. When everyone is armed the police get a little twitchy. Can anyone answer why in Ferguson all the elected power structure is white and the majority of residents are black?

    • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 10:43 am #

      Because all the blacks are too busy being thugs to bother with politics or joining law enforcement.

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:10 pm #

        Ann Coulter?

    • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

      Because Ferguson, a formerly white suburb of St. Louis, has been undergoing dramatic and fast demographic change as blacks have been moving from the urban center into the white suburbs. The demographics of the police force/city officials haven’t had time to catch up. It is certain that the “power structure” will become blacker now, as more Ferguson whites will surely move to the white exurbs, or back into gentrifying parts of St Louis proper.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:09 pm #

      You answered it yourself with the words “power structure.” As in the South during Reconstruction, African Americans in Ferguson are not part of the power structure.

      Kind of puts a twist on the old franchise, doesn’t it?

      • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 3:18 pm #

        Every country where Africans control the power structure is a political catastrophe, with the exceptions of Barbados and Ghana, which have the economic success of Southern Europe (but alas with the homicide rate of the average African-run state!).

        • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 5:57 pm #

          And? There’s a lot of history behind all that. Not as simple as these few facts appear.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 8:20 pm #

            But don’t you think it’s a little interesting that virtually all sub-Saharan African nations, even those that that were not colonies or exposed to racist Europeans, have societies that violent and poor?

            I mean, I agree with you that history is important. I just think of history in terms of evolutionary history, stretching back tens of thousands of years.

            And I even agree that whites are to blame for our current racial fiasco. Ferguson etc is a legacy of our ancestors’ decision to use African slaves rather than European labor. Do you know why they went with African slaves? Because Africans have greater immunity to diseases, like malaria, that made them better laborers than whites, who were dying likes flies in the south. And that’s also why slavery never took off in the north. Africans couldn’t compete with white laborers, since disease wasn’t really an issue.

        • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 6:39 pm #

          Oh, and white people in control are doing such a great job?!

    • Subvert December 1, 2014 at 10:47 pm #

      Noel, would you really want to live in this country with the guv being the only ones with weapons? Sure, it would be great to live in a world where guns weren’t an issue, but that’s not reality. People having guns is one of the few things that keeps any semblance of balance of power in this retard cuntry. If the people had no guns, the 1% would have installed their police state long ago. Guns don’t kill people, States kill people. And the goddamned cops should be “twitchy” – remember, a government should fear it’s people, not the other way round.

      Once again we’ve been sidetracked by the dog-and-pony-show media into arguing about non-issues instead of about the real important ones. How many people does your government kill, maim, repress, exploit, dispossess and impoverish each year all around this globe? (With your tax dollars and at the behest of the super rich) I guarantee it’s a hell of a lot more than the gun deaths in this country. As unfortunate as it is, we need guns, even unused, to act as a silent threat to those who would take what’s left of our freedom. Those 1% rat bastards should remain nervous thinking about a nation full of gun toting yahoos shooting at their pasty hides.

    • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 4:40 pm #

      Gun culture my ass. If he was holding an big red easy button, would you shoot him before he launched the missiles.

  17. Cold N. Holefield December 1, 2014 at 10:40 am #

    You didn’t disappoint, Jim. A great post. I agree with the sentiment and your way with words makes it all the more delectable.

    I think Blow is an appropriate name for that NYT reporter. The only thing more appropriate would be Blowhard. Kristoff’s name is also appropriate in a more cryptic way. The only thing more appropriate would be to substitute Jack for Christ.

  18. artshul December 1, 2014 at 10:46 am #

    Has anyone ever seen an abused woman with no visible injuries get away with a killing, and not even getting prosecuted?

    I hope that, based on the new Ferguson standard of “fearing for one’s life,” abused women start blowing away their abusers when they “fear for their lives” and get away with it.

    I think that Darren Wilson acted rationally, in his self interest, as any sociopath would, to hunt down and kill a witness. There were two up-close witnesses to his initial, unnecessary shooting of Michael Brown.

    He then left his vehicle and killed a severely wounded, unarmed kid who was trying to get away.

    It’s working out perfectly for him. Hooray!

    More power to the militarized sociopaths who will soon be making sure we all kiss their asses.

    • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 12:44 pm #

      Are you serious? Brown had just assaulted Wilson in his vehicle and tried to take his gun. Brown was charging Wilson, ignoring Wilson’s commands to get down, when Wilson shot him.

      I wonder what will be the consequences if we start restricting the police’s ability to defend itself. Fewer officers? More officer deaths?

      Do you live in the suburbs or a majority white neighborhood? In my experience, whites who sympathize with urban blacks live in majority white neighborhoods.

      • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 1:12 pm #

        “Are you serious? Brown had just assaulted Wilson in his vehicle and tried to take his gun. Brown was charging Wilson, ignoring Wilson’s commands to get down, when Wilson shot him.” —

        I have a hard time with this explanation as do many others. I wish there would have been a trial, with a special prosecutor since I also have a hard time with how this DA handled things.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 1:31 pm #

          Have you read the witness testimony and grand jury documents? The NYTimes has them all on their website.

          I was very willing to believe that this was a case of a bad cop who, enraged at a black kid mouthing off, gunned him down.

          But the testimony of so many (black) witnesses backing up Wilson’s story, plus the gun shot in his car and other forensic evidence (showing, for instance, that Wilson did not shoot Brown in the back as Johnson claimed) … all indicate that there is no probable cause for charges to be filed.

          • Shining Hector December 1, 2014 at 3:59 pm #

            If Brown had been dropped 1 foot away from the car, I can absolutely buy the defense that Wilson was in imminent danger of being killed with his own gun had he not fired immediately. The fact that Brown was instead dropped 150 feet away from the car and unarmed, well then, that’s where it’s not quite as clear how urgently he needed to be terminated with extreme prejudice. Panicking and making a monumentally stupid move shouldn’t necessarily mark you for death regardless of what you do afterwards. Wilson could have easily waited for the backup that was 30 seconds away, chasing down Brown and killing him on the spot really seems very far from the only viable option open to Wilson to preserve his own life as the situation developed.

            Sure would have been nice to have a real trial to sort all those niggling questions out.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 4:39 pm #


            I thought that Wilson was pursuing Brown, and that both were at a distance from the car when shots were fired. Wilson says that Brown began charging at him when they were about 15 feet apart, and that has been confirmed by witnesses.

            I don’t understand the procedural matters well enough to appreciate the purpose of a grand jury, and whether it was legally possible to charge and try Wilson. I do know that the USA is one of the few nations to have a grand jury system. So maybe a more productive conversation would be about reforms to grand jury system.

          • WW December 1, 2014 at 5:23 pm #

            Cassandra, Wilson was indeed pursuing MB when he turned and charged him. Facts backed up by both the forensic analysis of the GSW and the positions of the shell casings. The statements of the witnesses, who incidentally were maimly black, also supported Wilsons testimony.
            The fundemental problem lies with the fact those that choose to believe in fantasy will not read the evidence and are often to far divorced from reality to comprehend it even if they did. This was particularly evident after the Zimmerman trial with one talking head announcing that he should be found guilty because he wasn’t a nice person. In this deluded mans mind being liked is necessary to be innocent……

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:13 pm #

        That’s because they have higher incomes.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 3:37 pm #

          You have an ad hominem for everything!

          • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 5:59 pm #

            Simply a socioeconomic fact. Demographics and all that.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 8:11 pm #

            Do you mean the black witnesses that testified that Brown was charging Wilson when Wilson shot him? I have not read anything about their socioeconomic status.

            But their socioeconomic status does not affect their ability to tell the truth. Presumably one’s ability to witness does not depend on their socioeconomic status. It just depends on their mental health, their vision, and their memory.

            An “ad hominem” fallacy refers to an argument that, rather than responding to the facts of the case, makes a personal attack on someone’s character. You do this, by the way, when you call people who disagree with you about race “bigots,” etc.

  19. Greg Knepp December 1, 2014 at 10:58 am #

    A good deal of the problem with the American judicial system lies in the trial-by-jury process. Trusting a jury (grand or trial) to arrive at a just decision presupposes that said jury has been selected from a citizenry that shares a more or less common ethos – a consensus of what constitutes right and wrong – and, as a group, possesses at least an elementary understanding of the law of the land. A working knowledge of the English language would also help.

    But as the nation fractures into parochial and often hostile constituencies and ignorance runs rampant, it will be increasingly more difficult to seat juries capable of arriving at sane, well-reasoned decisions.

    If justice is to continue in any recognizable form, felonies will need to be judged by tribunals and misdemeanors by individual judges. The jury system is kaput!

    • beantownbill. December 1, 2014 at 11:27 am #

      While I agree with you that the jury system doesn’t work well, please take into account the corruption, politicalization and prejudices of judges. The Founding Fathers knew that justice wasn’t perfect when they created the judicial system.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 1, 2014 at 2:16 pm #

        Oh come on Bill. As John Adams said, the Constitution was created for White Christians and for no other. Even other Northern Europeans like Germans and Irish were suspect to Adams and Franklin. Extreme Homogeneity was assumed in other words.

        They would view modern America as a mad house; and the belief that Blacks are our peers to be the purest folly.

        • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:33 pm #

          I prefer to think that the founders had more of a “vision thing” than that.

          Also, they provided for Amendments. They even got that process off with their own – largely clarifications of what they had already said about these rights being “self-evident.”

          So given all the truths about their prejudices, etc., they also were enlightened enough to know that things would change, that “Enlightenment” is an ongoing process, and that “truth” is never frozen in time.

          Not even now.

        • Greg Knepp December 1, 2014 at 4:51 pm #

          No truer words, Janos. In fact, diversity may be seen as the hallmark of a disintegrating civilization. The abject failure of the jury system is but an early symptom.

          • Subvert December 1, 2014 at 11:14 pm #

            “In fact, diversity may be seen as the hallmark of a disintegrating civilization. The abject failure of the jury system is but an early symptom.”

            “Civilization” is the problem Gregg, not diversity. In a functional ecosystem (a forest, desert, jungle, prairie, etc) diversity is strength and resiliency. It is only because “civilization” violates all of the Natural Laws humans were meant to live by that we have these kinds of problems. Get rid of “civilization” and diversity becomes a strength. This is how the entire universe works, but not civilization. As history shows, civilizations rise and fall constantly. This is because they’re not sustainable in any way. They outstrip the carrying capacity of their area, leading to resource wars and empire expansion and eventually, collapse. There’s no escape from this recurring pattern so why maintain civilization as humanities’ goal when it can only fail? It’s time for humans to wise up.

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:36 pm #

        That was their genius. Seeing that human organizations are fraught with imperfections, and thus much wariness is needed, is even built into the system. Well, so far anyway . . .

    • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 11:50 am #

      Well said!

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:23 pm #

      I think it is incorrect to ignore the role of law enforcement and prosecutors in all of this. Not to mention the political system itself.

      E.g., which laws are actually enforced, which cases go to trial and how that is determined, politics, corruption – all of these things make me very wary of seeing such a suggestion as yours adopted. Far too few people are already in control.

      My last jury summons was for a misdemeanor indecent exposure case. And the cops added resisting arrest. Everyone knew it was a ridiculous waste of time and resources.

      I saw it as a young prosecutor working too hard on her career – at the expense of the defendant. I was not on that jury, and I sincerely hope they acquitted.

      • Greg Knepp December 1, 2014 at 4:42 pm #

        In answer to Guttenberg and Beerbarrel, I would say that, no, I am not ignoring the points you make; in fact I’d add media influence, bad law (drug laws, stand your ground, etc.) and questionable Supreme Court rulings to the list. All of this and more has only exacerbated the problems of a system that has clearly rum amok. For these reasons I take issue with the statement “”far too few people are already in control”. To my way of thinking, LACK of control is the real problem.

        This may be illustrated by the fact that the sword of weird justice cuts both ways. Consider, for example, the Reagan assassination attempt trial: John Hinckley was nowhere near psychotic, but he was let off easy on an insanity verdict. The jurors simply didn’t like the imperious Reagan. Or the Patty Hearst trial. She was about as much of a bank robber as the man on the moon, but she was a child of privilege and the jurors were commoners. They voted their resentment. And don’t get me started on the O.J. trial. The victim was just another rich white girl while O.J. was a football hero. So to hell her!

        My point is that without juries there would be no such thing as ‘jury nullification’… Me? I’ll take the judgement of a professional jurist, even if he is a bit of a cad, to that of a rabble of honest fools.

        • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 6:09 pm #

          We will both have to define what we mean by “control.” I tend to think of political and economic control, or power. Who has it and who doesn’t is how I define control.

          When you say “LACK of control is the problem,” do you mean that individuals lack control? Or that the system lacks sufficient controls? Or if your concern is individual behavior: The behavior of individual Blacks in Ferguson or the behavior of individual bankers on Wall Street? The latter did immediate, concrete damage to my life and my family.

          I should not comment on the jury system as I have no faith in the legal system, especially the criminal justice system. How juries vote is like democratic elections to me, and just about as rational. And I have no idea what to do about it, except to do something about the fact that laws are written to target poor folks and enforcement is all against them.

          • Greg Knepp December 1, 2014 at 8:20 pm #

            You answer your own question. Forgive me but you seem as bewildered by the whole legal system as I am. Byzantine though it may be, the apparatus certainly has a level of self-perpetuating ‘process’ control. It’s all very structured, what with its writs, briefs, hearings, pleas, arraignments, objections, continuances, postponements, mistrials, findings, appeals, layer upon grueling layer of opinions, precedents, reversals…well, it’s endless.

            Like Egyptian religion of the Middle Kingdom, it’s all very elaborate and sophisticated – quite beautiful in its own way – but completely irrelevant to the task of the place and time.

            I’m not even certain that it serves the interests of the legal class, though the common assumption is that it does.

            No, the whole friggin’ mess needs to be jettisoned.

  20. BeerBarrel December 1, 2014 at 11:25 am #

    Blacks need to quit bawling about perceived injustices, and consider that had the United States not been a slave-owning nation pre-Civil War, and there had been no imported blacks, the U.S. would be the Great White US. There wouldn’t be hardly any in the US today! Damn shame, that slavery business!

    • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 11:28 am #

      ” Damn shame, that slavery business!”

      You’re in sync with the zeitgeist.

    • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 11:49 am #

      It is not just blacks. Poor whites, browns, and yellows feel this way too.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:24 pm #

      Do you really believe that. REALLY?

      How lucky for them.

  21. Zoltar December 1, 2014 at 11:31 am #

    There are a couple of issues that need teasing apart here. One is cowboys with badges whose notion of law enforcement comes from television programs. Another is differential handling of problematic situations, depending upon the law enforcement culture of a nation and the race of the troublemaker.
    Tamir Rice was a dumb kid, doing a dumb and dangerous stunt. He needed to be stopped. There are many lethal and non-lethal options for handling a situation like this. If he had been white he’d be alive today. If he had been a Jewish kid in Israel he’d be alive today. If he had been a Palestinian kid in Israel he, like Tamir, would be dead. If he had been any sort of kid in Japan or England, he would still be alive.
    The fact that Tamir is a member of a race that engages in a lot of dysfunctional behavior hardly justifies his death. One cannot gainsay the fact that thousands of adult male members of his race languish in prisons for petty drug offences while American bankers commit felonies daily with impunity. For that we expect good attitudes?
    We can prefer that black communities continue to turn the other cheek when cowboy law enforcement unnecessarily kills their young people, but that time is running out. One large part of a solution would be to change police rules of engagement for situations of this sort, but I don’t see that being advocated in this forum.

    • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 11:46 am #

      Zoltar, I agree. Brown didn’t need to be killed if he was running away, The officer didn’t need to get out of his vehicle and shoot him down. They could have picked him up later.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 1, 2014 at 2:18 pm #

        He wasn’t running away. There’s no bullet in his back. What’s wrong with you?

        • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 3:56 pm #

          And if he did, would he have deserved to be shot for running away?

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:34 pm #

      “a member of a race that engages in a lot of dysfunctional behavior”

      Please tell me you didn’t mean that. Racial stereotypes?

      Pull the camera back and look at the whole picture Otherwise the utter disaster implied by JHK’s writings and a thousand others is inevitable.

      There will be many other Fergusons in the months to come, and the radical right will use these, just like Nixon did the urban riots of the sixties, as a “law and order” fear tactic going into the 2016 election.

      When you think about our nation’s “peculiar institution,” please remember that while Black men were being lynched, tortured, burned and disfigured, no one called for “law and order.”

      And remember, there are many kinds of violence. Dumping millions of tons into the environments where poor folks live is a very deadly form of violence, but because it isn’t as good a “product” for the evening news, we don’t hear about it.

      I am really very tired of this whole discussion. I really did expect more intelligence, and less prejudice, from the readers of JHK.

      I am happy you changed this as you wrote, but why that comment?

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:26 pm #

        “millions of tons of toxic waste” that is.

      • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 3:39 pm #

        Racial stereotyping in private speech is not a crime. Yet. And there’s a lot of data backing up most racial stereotypes.

        • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 6:14 pm #

          Do you really believe that? What is the data on Italians, or the Irish, or Europeans, for that matter? – do you even get it?

          And please, a stereotype is by definition NOT supported by scientific research.

          And do not put words in my mouth. Let’s just say that racial stereotyping is intolerable to me.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 9:02 pm #

            I’m not firmly committed to the truth of stereotypes. But my experience of them is that they’re often true. For instance, when I was 23 I moved to Florence for two years and had many stereotypes about Italian men confirmed.

            I think stereotypes are generalizations. They describe averages. How Asians usually drive. How women are usually more emotional. How white men, especially lefties, are usually shrill and insecure.

            What stereotypes do you not think are true?

            I used to think that black criminality was a big myth. And then I looked at the Bureau of Justice’s own statistics. What an eye opener!

          • Q. Shtik December 1, 2014 at 11:14 pm #

            a stereotype is by definition NOT supported by scientific research. – Gutenberg


            I just read the dictionary definition and there is not a word about a stereotype NOT being supported by scientific research. Take this example: The Irish are stereotyped as hard drinking lushes. Now, Google “alcohol consumption and alcoholism by country.” There have been massive studies spanning decades (i.e. scientific research) and guess what…the stereotype fits.

            You also say “that racial stereotyping is intolerable to me.” Why do you limit your intolerance to RACIAL stereotyping. When you’re hiking in the mountains don’t you have a stereotype of brown bears as being far more dangerous than house cats?

            Why is it OK to stereotype everything except races?

      • Zoltar December 1, 2014 at 4:09 pm #

        Why would you presume that I changed something as I wrote? I did no such thing. Like Jim, I am not trying to pretend that there are no behavioral issues here that lead to cops killing black youths. If Tamir hadn’t been farting around with what appeared to be a real gun, he would not have been killed.
        But, unlike Jim, I’m not suggesting that the solution is simply for “those black people to behave themselves.” I say again, if Tamir was white, an alternative to shooting him dead would have been found. My contention is that alternatives to using lethal force should be expected of police officers in situations like this.
        As for dysfunctional behavior, we (white folks) can think whatever we like about it, but it is a manifestation of the corrupt, unjust world we have created.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 4:32 pm #

          Why would you assume that any differences in behavior have environmental, rather than genealogical, causes?

          This is a peculiarity of post-1960s Western ideology. It’s a legacy of postmodernism and social constructionism, and perhaps ultimately the illogical conclusion of Cartesianism. Descartes gave scientific respectability to the idea that the mind and body occupied two distinct realms. Humans differed from other animals because humans had a mind, or soul, that was immortal and immutable, and was responsible for things like reasoning and remembering. For Descartes, it was crucial that all humans were equal in their mental capacities, and any differences in the human mind were the result of postnatal environment.

          In the hands of postmodern philosophers, the idea that the mental world is separate and distinct from the material world has been immensely influential. The assumption is the features of the social world–power structures, group differences–are all artificial, constructed by society.

          By aside and apart from Cartesianism has been the idea, going back to the Greeks, that the mind is embodied and material. And that humans, like other animals, are subject to the laws of nature pertaining to heredity. Darwin’s discovery of natural selection merely confirmed what breeders had known for centuries: that selection could generate differentiation. Some dog breeds are better at guarding and others at hunting not because of postnatal environment, but because they were bred that way.

          If say 50% of behavioral differences were ascribed to heredity rather than environment, the conversation about race in America would be much more productive.

          • Zoltar December 1, 2014 at 5:15 pm #

            That’s a whole lot of Ism’s, Cassandra. Thanks for the philosophy primer. Nice to know your liberal arts degree is being put to good use.
            Of course, both nature and nurture come into play. So, let’s say we arbitrarily agree that the ratio is 50-50. Unless you are suggesting a eugenic “solution,” then surely we can agree that the geneologial part is a given. But in theory, at least, we can nudge the world ever so slightly in a more just direction.
            I happen to think that not shooting people unnecessarily would be a good start.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 5:29 pm #

            Sorry for so much -ism dropping! I’ll try to keep the comments uninformed and unhistorical. 🙂

            Ok, but yet, forgive me, I can’t help pointing out that “Eugenia” is a word coined by the Greeks in classical antiquity to describe “good generation.” The idea was nature and nurture should interact in a way to improve the quality of the population–whether it’s a population of humans, dogs, horses, or wheat. Throughout the Renaissance and modern period, intellectual leaders considered certain laws regarding reproduction — like limiting childbearing to marriage, restricting marriage to people who could afford to raise children, prohibiting cross-class marriage, etc.– as eugenic.

            There is a common misperception that eugenics is a modern, post-Darwin phenomenon. It’s not. It’s as old as agriculture.

            We have a spectacularly dysgenic reproductive culture, where fertility is negatively correlated with intelligence. What are the longterm repercussions of having the least intelligent and poorest members of society having the most children? Well, maybe Ferguson is one such repercussion.

          • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 6:22 pm #

            “Why would you assume that any differences in behavior have environmental, rather than genealogical, causes?”

            Here we are at definitions again. Most people, as far as I know, since early in the last century, had concluded that it was a combination of both. But why does one set of behaviors elicit this response and another a totally different one? A Wall Street banker destroys a whole neighborhood, without a shot fired, and this is not considered violent in America. That was done thousands of times over in this country, and this crime continues unabated.

            I consider that very violent behavior and I wish these folks would just learn to control themselves. Did they all learn these behaviors where they grew up and went to school? Or is it genetic? It’s like a double standard.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 7:01 pm #

            I agree with you that the bankers are doing a lot of damage and it’s shameful that what they’ve done appears to be perfectly legal. It would be easy to test whether banking malfeasance has hereditary or environmental causes by tightening banking regulations and laws and seeing whether it continues. We have laws regulating gun possession, homicide, drug use, property damage, theft, etc., and blacks routinely violate these laws, suggesting that their propensity to criminality is not caused by a lack of laws.

            Also I think you’re wrong in saying that people agree that heredity and environment have equal influences on behavior. The common assumption is that environment (structural racism, legacy of jim crow, poverty, etc., low expectations, etc.) is the cause of black misbehavior.

          • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 7:09 pm #

            That’s a whole lot of psuedo intellectual hot air to basically say “dark skin people bad”.

            You are aware that the average African American is 20-30% European, correct?

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 7:28 pm #

            Yes, African Americans are 20-30% European, and they have higher IQs than sub-Saharan Africans. I don’t know if homicide rates among African Americans are less than sub-Saharans.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 7:34 pm #

            And it’s not to say that “dark skin people bad” at all! All human groups have evolved beautifully for their particular environments. Africans’ disease immunities, high time preference, lower IQ, and propensity to violence reflects the particular demands of tribal warfare and lifestyle.

            What is arguably bad is mixing all kinds of people up in modern state economies and expecting them to do well. Whites would suck at hunting and gathering in tribal societies. Africans aren’t doing so great in modern industrial economies. So what. Everyone doesn’t need to be equal.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 7:34 pm #

            Also, I don’t think you really know what pseudo intellectual hot air is. Go read Zizek.

          • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 8:17 pm #

            You need to read a few more books and articles on the subject. seriously, just read the Wikipedia article on race and you’ll be better informed. You almost have a point, and then your hatred peeps out from behind your pseudo-logical facade. The truth is that the consensus and evidence, although still being debated, actually disputes your conjecture.

            Then, you apply this shaky postulate to a group that you can only possibly judge by the color of their skin. Unless you’ve spent the last week out doing genetic testing on the rioters in Ferguson, you couldn’t possibly being applying your faulty conclusions in any sort of rigorous manner.

            So what are we left with? The only possible conclusion. You, sir, (if you are legitimate and not a troll taking the piss, which is a distinct possibility) are a straight up, old school racist. Nothing more, nothing less.

            If you are a troll, well, hats off to you.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 9:08 pm #

            Lol, but I’m a very nice female millennial and not a troll at all! And I don’t feel any hatred toward blacks. I feel a lot of hatred toward humanity in general, for what they do to the environment and other animals, but while I think black misbehavior has obvious hereditary roots that our society willfully ignores, I don’t hate them for it. I actually find it interesting and entertaining. (except when there are shootings in my neighborhood)

            As for the Wikipedia article on race … I mean, I admit that Wikipedia has improved a lot and has pretty decent articles, including this one. But I’ve done a lot of further reading on the subject–scholarly articles published in peer-reviewed journals, books by respected generalists like Wade and anthropologists–and have many reasons for my conclusion that group differences has to be at least 50% heredity.

            You might try to read more books and scholarly articles and branch out from Wikipedia and Salon/Slate, etc. I think you’d be surprised.

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 9:31 pm #

            “Then, you apply this shaky postulate to a group that you can only possibly judge by the color of their skin. Unless you’ve spent the last week out doing genetic testing on the rioters in Ferguson, you couldn’t possibly being applying your faulty conclusions in any sort of rigorous manner.”

            Are you implying that the Ferguson rioters do not have African ancestry? Really? Not only is it literally self-evident, they also identify as African Americans.

            To be sure, I am not attempting any sort of rigorous analysis of Ferguson. I am merely applying my extensive reading of the subject of race and genetic inheritance (it’s a hobby–my field of research is history) to comment on a current event. You are applying your own reading in a similarly amateurish manner to the same event.

          • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 10:26 pm #

            “Extensive reading” == one book by one researcher that you reference over and over.

            What percentage African are the rioters in Ferguson? Which part of their DNA contributes to their propensity to violence?

            What percentage African do I need to be before my savage DNA overwhelms my ability to control myself? Actually, I think I’ve come up with a brilliant new legal defense.

          • dmeehan December 1, 2014 at 10:35 pm #

            “but while I think black misbehavior has obvious hereditary roots that our society willfully ignores, I don’t hate them for it. I actually find it interesting and entertaining.”

            I know. It’s like a minstrel show, innit?

          • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 6:53 pm #

            Ultimately I agree, but I have to say I have a different of “thug” than several folks here.

            All that philosophical mumbo jumbo is fine but I am more interested in who has power and who thus defines what “differentiation” even means.

            And having worked in oncology research I am only interested in genetics at the cellular level.

            No matter how hard you try there is simply no way you can discuss the “genealogy” of behavior the way a biochemist discusses the genealogy of a cancer cell.

            Of course stereotypes are true to some extent. I’m one myself; a 66-yr-old faggot with cats who likes to garden, loves sixties rock, classical music and Baseball. OOPS!

    • WW December 1, 2014 at 5:44 pm #

      Sorry to bust your bubble but if the Armed Response Unit had attended here in the UK, which they would have to the call of a kid waving a round a gun, and had he pointed it at them he would indeed have been shot. It has happened before as has the shooting of a man armed witha table leg.

  22. wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 11:44 am #

    Jim, I hope you are wrong about this being a ‘climatic moment’. We need a national debate and resultant change to take the pressure off before even greater violence.

    The subject is anything but ‘zany’ to those who feel they have been abused. Many, especially among the poor, see justice as not blind but green.

    Wealth inequality is the largest single factor causing the rising tension and shrinking cohesion of our country.

    • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 11:50 am #

      Nice segue to cause/effect, but there is not much rational discussion possible when logic is driven by the emotion of white fright and mob mentality.

      • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 12:11 pm #

        Thanks Benjamin. I am not sure if we can again become a strong country or if we will disintegrate but I am certain the disintegration will be worse than the healing would be

        • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 12:21 pm #

          Things will have to get a lot worse before they get better.

          Fire-clearing of forests is necessary for new growth.

          • wayfarer December 1, 2014 at 12:28 pm #

            So the process won’t reverse until the elites are in pain, we should encourage violence?????

          • Ben Franklin December 1, 2014 at 12:44 pm #

            Not inciting violence, and human history is replete with examples of overthrown governments that resulted in something worse. (French Revolution followed by Napoleon)

            We are running out of time for glacial, incremental progress.

            It took a century for blacks to receive their day in court on civil liberties after the Emancipation Proclamation and 14th
            amendment. We haven’t gone very far since 1964, and ancillary issues are piling up, making violence as a quick answer/remedy more likely.

  23. baird December 1, 2014 at 11:49 am #

    So look, let’s set aside all the bloviating if possible. I’m an old white republican who’s not insensitive to the law and order side of all this. However I do wonder why mace or a tazer wouldn’t have sufficed against Brown. Ok let it come.

  24. capt spaulding December 1, 2014 at 12:10 pm #

    Prepare yourselves for a very volatile week of name calling on this blog. Nothing brings out the beast better than a dialogue about race. I’m just gonna open this beer now, and sit back for the show.

    • ozone December 1, 2014 at 4:32 pm #

      “Prepare yourselves for a very volatile week of name calling on this blog. Nothing brings out the beast better than a dialogue about race. I’m just gonna open this beer now, and sit back for the show.”

      That’s an intelligent response; guess I’ll do the same.
      As far as a mitigating strategy for this kind of Ferguson shit (Stupid on Stupid), I’d suggest arming up and having as little to do with the police or military personnel as possible. In case anybody’s interested, this is what you do in shaky 3rd world shitholes where casual violence is rampant, politics are deadly and life is extremely cheap. (Hmmmm, those bullet points are becoming more and more familiar as we proceed down this path to 3rd-world-shitholedom that we’re being encouraged not to deviate from. Oh well, it appears to be what both the rulers and the rubes approve of. Let the reapings begin!)

  25. barbisbest December 1, 2014 at 12:10 pm #

    Hope it wasn’t a Red Ryder BB gun designed to look like an automatic. JHK ,thought you would have been at the World in Crisis Forum in San Francisco last weekend. What crisis? Where? Possibly some of your readers should have been there. This month’s National Geographic cover, the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire. Providence or what?

  26. BackRowHeckler December 1, 2014 at 12:20 pm #

    How timely, Jim. What do you know. Al Sharpton is at the White House right now, as you read this. As a trusted advisor to the President of the United States, he is drawing up racial policy and making demands. Even you lefties out there have to be a little taken aback by a criminal and demagogue like Rev. Al Sharpton being so close to the center of power, so much in fact he was he was crucial in choosing the candidate for the new Attorney General. And there is the matter of the $4.5 million he owes the IRS. Maybe while in DC he’ll pay up what he owes.


    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:43 pm #

      Of course with all those crimes Mr. Sharpton is still an awfully small target for such a comment.

      I’m just glad to see the former AG gone. Can’t imagine how HE got selected. Then again, I never did get Rahm Emanuel. Maybe in 2008 we should’ve known that Obama hung out with him!

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:46 pm #

      Isn’t Al Sharpton, even with all those crimes, a small target for such a comment?

      I’m just glad to see the forger AG gone. How was he selected? Then again, I never understood Rahm Emanuel. Maybe in 2008 we should’ve been more concerned that Obama hung out with him.

  27. Cold N. Holefield December 1, 2014 at 12:24 pm #

    So look, let’s set aside all the bloviating if possible. I’m an old white republican who’s not insensitive to the law and order side of all this. However I do wonder why mace or a tazer wouldn’t have sufficed against Brown. Ok let it come.

    Macing and tasering are a bit harsh, don’t you think? Cops need to give up their weapons and come bearing gifts like the three wise men since we’re nearing the Christmas holiday.. Think how differently this all would have turned out if Zimmerman and Wilson offered Martin and Brown brownies instead of lead? Choose your own gift — it doesn’t have to be brownies — it could be Skittles or blood sausage, but the point remains. If Darren Wilson placated the hulking, demonic Brown with brownies, Brown would be alive today and a few punds heavier than he was several months prior. That’s the kind of change we should elicit from our leaders. Brownies versus guns, tasers and tear gas, and if there’s pot in them there brownies, well, that’s all the better.

    • baird December 1, 2014 at 12:46 pm #

      Cold, was hoping for a serious response, should have known better.

      • Q. Shtik December 1, 2014 at 11:52 pm #

        Cold, was hoping for a serious response, should have known better. – baird


        You can’t beat sarcasm for shining a bright light on truth.

  28. Cold N. Holefield December 1, 2014 at 12:32 pm #

    I’m curious if they tested for Angel Dust in Michael Brown’s system, or if a test can be run to detect that.

    PCP and Invincibility

    • BackRowHeckler December 1, 2014 at 1:12 pm #

      Brown and his partner has done some blunts earlier in the morning, as was their habit. In fact the cigarellos he stole in the strong arm robbery were going to be used to make more blunts.

      Brown wasn’t an Eagle Scout, no matter what Don Lemon says.

      I’m curious, when the President holds his big Race Summit today, ‘getting down’ with Jay Z and Reverend Al, is he aware the Russians are flying nuclear armed squadrons of Tu 142 Bombers off the Florida, Louisiana and Texas coasts, for the first time in history?

      Remember in ’08 Obama’s election, all by itself, was going to make the world a garden of eden, that all trouble in the world was caused by the United States, and as soon as we withdrew from the world it was peaches and cream from here on in. Oh ya, and all racial divides were going to be healed. I get a good laugh when I think of all that.


      • malthuss December 1, 2014 at 2:30 pm #

        Why do you laugh?

        I never believed in Barry. His resume was the sketchiest of any contender. The worst of all presidents.
        He must be from Manchuria. He is the Manchurian President.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 1, 2014 at 2:56 pm #

          The great White Hope, Mitt Romney, just said Republicans should “swallow hard” and legalize everyone – which is apparently 34 million or so. All of this just to beat the Democrats and get the credit from the new voters for the Republican Party. So much for America and patriotism.

          In Sweden one politician said Swedes should treat the minorities well so that when they are a minority they will be treated well too. Is this not madness? Why is minority status accepted long before it is the case? Why the proactive status quo? Why is this hideous future assumed to be set in stone?

          The whole White Race seems incapable of thinking outside the box now. We seem to have zero control over our destiny now. Someone else is making the decisions for us – and our visible leaders are just going along with the Agenda.

          • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:20 pm #

            “We seem to have zero control over our destiny now.”

            How does it feel to know what millions of Americans have been experiencing for most of this nation’s history?

            You have that peculiar American disease. You see everything in terms of skin color.

            I would just like to go on record as observing that this hasn’t been working out so well.

            Have you ever wondered what life was like for a 20-year-old white woman working in a factory or office a hundred years ago in any American city? You might want to check that out before you engage in racist remarks.

            Perhaps a change of tune is in order?

          • BackRowHeckler December 1, 2014 at 3:23 pm #

            Time to bust out the old Johnny Rebel CDs

      • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:52 pm #

        Please note: The Candidate Obama 2008, Mr. Hope & Change, is NOT the man who entered the Oval Office in January 2009.

        We will never know if another strategy would have worked. It’s been more George W. Bush and surrendering to Republicans for nearly six years now.

        And if the Democrats conclude from the outcome of the recent election that they need to be more Conservative, it’s game over. And discussions like this will be utterly irrelevant.

      • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 2:39 pm #

        Nuclear weapons don’t exist. Someone else would have used one by now, just like someone else would have gone to the moon by now.

  29. woe December 1, 2014 at 1:19 pm #

    I’m black and I agree with everything JHK posted. The thug culture will be our downfall. The MSM is pouring gasoline on a fire.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 2:55 pm #

      IF you include in the “thug culture” the billionaires, the Koch’s, the Wall Street gangsters who have us all by the throat, and the politicians who do their bidding – even when it means acting against the voters’ wishes – then I agree. But only then.

      • woe December 3, 2014 at 2:26 pm #

        I agree with what you mean about the fact that income inequality is at an all time high, there are no jobs for these young men and women. But the Koch brothers didn’t burn down someone’s livelihood, place of work and place of business. What has happened to this country had taken years, decades to happen. The thing about thug culture is that it acts on young impressionable minds, and it is pervasive, you can see it on tv or the internet all day long. It projects an aberration of how society supposed to work. Kids don’t question the message but they internalize it and start to act out it’s message. That message is destructive to communities and society. Blacks have been oppressed, poor and sometimes on the margins of society for a long time, and we managed to make it and survive. The values that the thug culture promote leaves black youth with no tools on how to persevere, embrace education (I’m not just talking about degrees) have a strong work ethic and have a strong moral code and also responsibilities to families and community. The only difference between Ferguson and Liberia w/ Ebola is that Ferguson is in the US. So blacks have a huge advantage in this country already. What do you think the response of this shooting would have been in a place like Liberia? I understand the anger and frustration quite well, but the way this country is going we are going to have change our response to the anger and frustration. Blind rage doesn’t think. The Koch bros. have whole buildings of people thinking for them. They are playing the long game. Young blacks have to learn to play the long game also.

  30. pequiste December 1, 2014 at 1:25 pm #

    I’m not certain who coined the moniker “Hip-Hop Nation” but it seems to resonate wonderfully (in a very bad way) with the visuals on the Idiot Box (TV) and the true facts in concrete reality.
    I challenge anyone to listen, or better yet view (if you can stomach it,) some “gangsta rap” (and use the following term with great hesitation) music, and see how the philosophy that is woven into the words and images jive nicely with the praxis of hate, contempt and nihilism.
    When “…burn that b!tch down…” is the mantra for multi-generational populations of the “inner city” inhabitants then as a self-fulfilling prophesy and the businesses of Ferguson get torched and the hordes get to loot and shoot in a chorybantic orgy of violence (all with a hip-hop soundtrack.)
    As the Hip-Hop Nation continues to delve the deep ditch of existential dispair and blame “the man,” “the system,” or “whitey,” rather than face the facts then this syndrome of boiling resentment, catalytic event, “….burn dat b1tch down….” will continue.
    I think the fact that 70% out-of-wedlock births in the African-American population does not make for a strong foundation for children is an understatement. It is a key ingredient for social failure.
    I think the fact that black on black killing is much more popular than white on black killing, might lend a creedence to the observation that its just not important for the Black community to regard it as a major problem.
    I also think the abortion called “the education system” (in this country) regarding the Hip-Hop Nation is not a result of racism – just a choice that it – learning- doesn’t matter (in contra-distinction see statistics of Asian students competing against all populations to see where family, education and respect for community come into play.)
    Hating where you live is plenty enough reason to want out but not to defecate there or burn it down. Perhaps timely opportunity to move back to the home continent for a fresh start a la Marcus Garvey.
    That professional race- baiters and the bubble-landers in Manhattan added gasoline to the fire is no surprise. The “Race Show” is “de rigeur” to Minority and Liberal audiences (almost like that other race show – NASCAR – to the lumpenprole white folks) and always a winner in the American, tightly controlled, stupefying media environment.
    The whole affair is disgusting yet instructive and again reinforces my belief about our civilization – my worst fears just scratch the surface of the situation I’m afraid.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:04 pm #

      I would just like to remind you that this is the 21st century and this kind of racial stereotyping is part of what my parents’ generation fought and sacrificed to destroy in WWII and part of what we fought against in the sixties.

      You take one series of incidents, and select pieces of “evidence” from them that support sweeping generalizations you then try to make from all of this.

      I am sick to death of seeing people in this country let themselves be manipulated by right-wing rhetoric. Try a different world view on for size.

      It is because of things like this that this period is far more scary to me than the sixties.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 1, 2014 at 3:54 pm #

        No. You just changed the stereotype object from Blacks to Whites – your own people. The Social Controlers got a large percentage of Whites to hate their own people. An extraordinary victory for the Elite and an extraordinary defeat for America, her people, and the Western Civilization as a whole.

        After all, some degree of xenophobia is normal and from an evolutionary pov, advantageous. But xenophillia? There’s no purpose for that in Nature at all. Liberals are Sickos who are trying to desperately to get the rest of the White Race to join their suicide cult. Old fashioned Liberals didn’t believe such things. It used to mean free thinking but that’s changed a little don’t you think? You people are no more capable of free thought than Al Qaeda Muslims.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 5:18 pm #

          Sometimes my students will assert the idea that humanitarianism is natural because it furthers the “survival of the species.” Thus it behooves us to, say, open our borders, put up with black misbehavior, send oodles of aid to third world countries, because it’s for the good of the species.

          It shows complete ignorance of ecology. If we get to 12 billion people by 2100, like the latest UN study indicated is possible given current fertility rates in Africa and Middle East, biodiversity is going to suffer catastrophically.

          How is the progress of the species furthered by outbreeding other organisms? It’s the dumbest confusion of quality and quantity I’ve ever seen.

        • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 7:17 pm #

          I leave suicide cults to religious fundamentalists. I know of two distinctly different religions that believe some sort of Armageddon would actually be salvation.

          And this is what scares me the most, this rewrite of the sixties. Just so you’ll know: The US was presenting itself to the world as a Beacon of Democracy while millions of its own citizens were denied the right to vote simply because of the color of their skin. Just for starters.

          My parents’ generation fought against this sort of thing in WWII, before most Americans even knew what Jim Crow really meant – terror. When America found out, saw the police dogs and the fire hoses aimed at peaceful civil rights marchers, we demanded an end to Jim Crow. Now it’s back.

          For the rest – the anti-war movement – the demonization of dissent that has been the US government’s response to protest since Woodrow Wilson and WWI – a lot of history needs to be digested. But the bottom line is that in the sixties the US government lied, it broke its own laws, all for a country called South Vietnam that only existed on paper. And 58,000+ American boys, most of them 19, plus millions of people were slaughtered for a lie.

    • Q. Shtik December 2, 2014 at 12:02 am #

      woven into the words and images [jive] nicely with the praxis of hate,


      For the hundredth friggin time, the word is JIBE. aarrrrrgh!!

    • Q. Shtik December 2, 2014 at 12:08 am #

      P.S. It’s despair not despair.

      Other than these two beefs I’m in total agreement.

      • Q. Shtik December 2, 2014 at 1:24 am #

        the system re-wrote dispair to read despair.

  31. malthuss December 1, 2014 at 2:28 pm #

    Can anyone hazard a guess as to what the USA will be like ‘Post EBT’?
    if this is how many Blacks act now what will things be like later?

    No EBT, no Section 8 etc. Yikes.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:06 pm #

      Let us all join together now and blame those who have nothing!

      And, you know, in the sixties we called people who engaged in such stereotyping Bigots.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 1, 2014 at 3:33 pm #

        The 60’s were manufactured by the Elite to begin the destruction of Western Civilization. Sorry you’re the last to find out.

        • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 10:18 am #

          Agreed. Tavistock. Not the first time England has done this to a country. How do you think they got Hong Kong. It wasn’t called a British Invasion for nothing. Ever notice how American Rock Stars seem to die mysterious deaths or inexplicably turn into dicks but British rock stars never seem to go away.

        • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 7:22 pm #

          I meant to add this here rather than above, so:

          And this is what scares me the most, this rewrite of the sixties. Just so you’ll know: The US was presenting itself to the world as a Beacon of Democracy while millions of its own citizens were denied the right to vote simply because of the color of their skin. Just for starters.

          My parents’ generation fought against this sort of thing in WWII, before most Americans even knew what Jim Crow really meant – terror. When America found out, saw the police dogs and the fire hoses aimed at peaceful civil rights marchers, we demanded an end to Jim Crow. Now it’s back.

          For the rest – the anti-war movement – the demonization of dissent that has been the US government’s response to protest since Woodrow Wilson and WWI – a lot of history needs to be digested. But the bottom line is that in the sixties the US government lied, it broke its own laws, all for a country called South Vietnam that only existed on paper. And 58,000+ American boys, most of them 19, plus millions of people were slaughtered for a lie.

      • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 3:35 pm #

        Exactly. And way back in the day, they called people who didn’t follow the orthodoxy “heretics” and “witches” and burnt them at the stake. Now they call them “bigots” and “racists” and “haters” and get them fired if they possibly can.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 3:40 pm #

          * “burned at the stake,” not “burnt.” Sorry.

          • Q. Shtik December 2, 2014 at 12:14 am #

            Burnt is a secondary past tense of burn but, like you, I much prefer burned.

      • malthuss December 1, 2014 at 11:56 pm #

        ‘blame those who have nothing!’. That is a weird twisting of what I posted.
        It is the behavior of a certain group I note. That is all.

        And ‘blame those who have nothing!’. Why do they have nothing? Is it the fault of ‘Privileged Whites’ who took it from them?

  32. BrunoGerace December 1, 2014 at 2:36 pm #

    Someone above mentioned “gasoline”. The reaction we see in media news loops has little to do with the “facts” of this case. There is as little connection between Michael Brown’s killing and the subsequent outrages as there was between the killing of an Austrian royal to World War I. In each case the gasoline was ALREADY poured on the floor. The killings were [and are] merely the match that detonated the accumulated frustration. Fix the injustice and the problem solves itself.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:08 pm #

      Thank you.

      I was really beginning to worry about the folks here.

      Oh dear, now look who’s next!

    • Q. Shtik December 2, 2014 at 12:30 am #

      Fix the injustice and the problem solves itself. Bruno


      Yes, let’s piss more money away trying to educate the uneducable and assimilate the immiscible. The hard to swallow fact is that things have grown worse in the past 50 years, not better.

      • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 7:30 pm #

        Your two sentences are unrelated. And American history proves your first sentence about pissing away money wrong.

        I would just want to consider who’s been in the White House since 1964.

        Lots of highly educated guys. Making decisions and spending money.

        Doing a fine job.


  33. Janos Skorenzy December 1, 2014 at 2:47 pm #

    Do Blacks really think that if a White man slammed the car door on a Police Officer, punched him in the face, and then tried to take his gun he wouldn’t get shot? And if he survived, not go to prison for many years? Apparently so, and that’s frightening. I don’t want to live with people so blinded by hate. Or are they just so narcissistic that they never even think about things from our point of view? Stone cold stupid? Or a healthy dose of all three?

    In any case, it’s not working. And as Fred Reed said, if it was going to work, it would have worked by now. Blacks don’t accept White authority. They need to be policed and governed by their own. In other words, they need their own country. And we need to be free of them as well. As Lincoln said, we suffer from each others presence.

    • GutenbergGuy December 1, 2014 at 3:09 pm #

      I do not think President Lincoln meant it in quite the way you’d like.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 1, 2014 at 3:22 pm #

        I’m confident Lincoln meant it precisely that way, like it or not. Remember how Obama channeled Lincoln during his 1st inaugural campaign? What is transpiring under the auspices of his presidency is the fulfillment of Lincoln’s fears and he and his administration have had a strong and active hand in fomenting the discord, so it’s rather ironic Obama and his handlers chose the Lincoln banner.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 1, 2014 at 3:34 pm #

        He wanted the Blacks to go back to Africa. Ever hear of Liberia? You really don’t know much but think you do.

        • AKlein December 1, 2014 at 3:43 pm #

          Janos, I believe that Lincoln actually wanted to repatriate all blacks back to Africa, as you say. This is one of those factoids that are carefully ignored in most histories of Lincoln.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 1, 2014 at 3:56 pm #

            Lincoln was for a voluntary repatriation. Not going to happen. Jefferson was made of sterner stuff. It is to him that we must look to for guidance now in the 11th hour.

          • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 1:42 pm #

            Most people don’t realize slavery is not illegal. Involuntary slavery is illegal.

          • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 7:33 pm #

            Simply not true.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 3:47 pm #

          The back to Africa movement was extremely popular after the Civil War. But they could only get 15,000 African Americans to move to Liberia. Obviously blacks realized that, however racist and evil white Americans were, living in a majority white nation was preferable to living in a majority black one.

          In fact, the conclusion that racist, evil white nations are preferable to more colorful nations is born out by the mass migration from the third world to the white first world.

          My favorite recent example of this is Thomas Duncan, the Liberian with Ebola who traveled to Dallas a few days after coming in contact with the disease. A descendant of African American slaves, his ancestors had repatriated to Africa after the Civil War. The freed American slaves did a really shitty job of nation building, … so shitty that Liberians have been repatriating to the USA en masse, many of them to the American south. The irony is unbearable.

        • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 7:31 pm #

          Totally untrue. Period.

    • Raindogs December 1, 2014 at 8:41 pm #

      Being that some 90% or so of blacks still believe OJ to be innocent tells me that the answer to your question is yes; they do believe a white guy would be alive today if he’d assaulted a cop like Michael Brown did.
      Facts seem to mean nothing to these people; all rational thought thrown out the window when race is involved.

      • Q. Shtik December 2, 2014 at 12:41 am #

        Being that some 90% or so of blacks still believe OJ to be innocent – Raindogs


        No, this simply cannot be true. You must have misread. Probably some 90% of blacks believe OJ is guilty as sin but figure the white bitch, somehow, deserved it.

  34. Cold N. Holefield December 1, 2014 at 3:30 pm #

    There is as little connection between Michael Brown’s killing and the subsequent outrages as there was between the killing of an Austrian royal to World War I.

    I still contend they’re trying to light green wood to build this fire, meaning it’s just not there. It makes for good shootin-the-shit fodder though, that’s for sure. And record gun sales, don’t forget that. Gun sales have never been better. The last thing gun manufacturers want is a Republican Law & Order type in office — it’s bad for gun sales. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re grooming a Muslim for a run in 2020 or 2024. If you thought a Black president was great for gun sales, wait until they put a Muslim in office. What fun that would be, and never say never — not in America where all things are possible.

    • BackRowHeckler December 2, 2014 at 7:21 am #

      A Muslim is already in office

  35. Janos Skorenzy December 1, 2014 at 3:37 pm #

    Farrakhan calls Obama, Holder, and Crump punks working for the Man. He calls for Racial Holy War (RaHoWa) against Whites. He condemned Obama’s takedown of Libya which was a big supporter of the Nation of Islam. Is it possible that he has found new backers, like say the new Isis friendly regime in Libya?


  36. nsa December 1, 2014 at 5:08 pm #

    Common sense: when dealing with a uniformed goon openly armed and licensed to kill….it is wise to be polite and deferential……and park the posturing and attitude. As C. Darwin pointed out, not adapting to reality results in extinction……….be it slow or sudden.

  37. jazzage27 December 1, 2014 at 5:44 pm #

    Why does everyone assume this is about race? True, cops have been shooting and beating up blacks from day one but they have not hesitated to attack white people recently, especially behind closed doors. They know they can get away with it easier with minorities and once people are used to that they attack protesters and eventually anyone they feel like. Just like the famous poem by the German pastor:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    Why would anyone think that a prosecutor would work to indict a cop? It hardly ever happens and for a good reason – prosecutors have a vested interest in pleasing cops, and anyone who went after a cop would find himself with a greatly reduced prosecutorial success rate. Plus they are on the same side, they have the same mindset, we are the government, you are citizens and have no rights. Prosecutors are just as bad as cops when it comes to lying to make themselves look good. There are occasional exceptions – an Hispanic cop who killed a 95 year old white WW2 veteran in a nursing home was just indicted up here in Chicago, but the case was such as obvious case of police wrongdoing and the victim was so sympathetic that they didn’t have much choice.

    Indeed, the prosecutor in the Wilson case went out of his way to make sure that the grand jury would not vote a true bill – he even had Wilson testify! Please, the bar for grand jury indictments is very low – all the prosecutor needs to show is that the would-be defendant may have committed a crime. Guilt or innocence is up to the trial. The fact that Brown was unarmed and shot six times is more than enough to indict. Do you really think that this prosecutor would allow defense evidence to be presented to a grand jury if the accused was a man arrested for possession of cocaine, or any other crime?

    White Americans have allowed themselves to be turned into a bunch of pansies – no one has the balls to question the almighty State. People who complain about the government are a dime a dozen – everyone seems to hate politicians – but then they turn around and worship the expression of their power, the cops and the military. The fools who voluntarily join the military are made into heroes for illegally invading other countries and killing people at the behest of the government and the corporations who profit from war. And of course, many of them come home, inured to violence in their time in Afghanistan or Iraq and join local police forces, where they get to wreck havoc on the local population. The police are an occupying army in our country.

    I am white and middle class and have never gotten in any trouble other than a few traffic tickets and I learned long ago that the police are just a form of criminal enterprise with the force of the government behind them. Bullies in uniforms at best. What is so difficult about that to understand?

  38. debt December 1, 2014 at 6:03 pm #

    Interestingly, the only media outlet that got it right was Fox. And I am usually disgusted with Fox. The whole situation is so sad. Brown’s stepdad should be deeply ashamed that he had any part in raising such a punkass. He actually said “his son respected law enforcement”. What a howl! Lies, denial, victim consciousness…where does it end?

  39. FincaInTheMountains December 1, 2014 at 6:06 pm #

    “Re: IQ and Africans. ”

    When I was working as a CTO of high-tech startup, the smartest guy among pretty bright engineers I had was a black guy.

    He wasn’t born in US, but on some Caribbean Island, Dominica I think.

    I am convinced it is more a social environment issue rather than racial.

    • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 6:35 pm #

      I also have the pleasure of knowing extremely intelligent and talented academics of African ancestry. Most of them are about as African as Obama, though. Half or, more often, a quarter.

      Frederick Douglas called them “the talented tenth.”

      What convinced me that heredity accounts for at least 50% of IQ differences between groups was talking to sociologists familiar with the IQ literature (I’m not a sociologist), and then reading some of summary reviews of the findings.

      Basically, sociologists have been trying, and failing, for decades to show that the persistent IQ gap is caused by environmental differences. If you’re interested in a review of the literature on race and IQ, check out this 2005 paper, “THIRTY YEARS OF RESEARCH ON RACE DIFFERENCES IN COGNITIVE ABILITY,” by Ruston and Jensen, published in Psychology, Public Policy, and Law.

      I was particularly impressed by the adoption studies and the twin studies. In the adoption studies, they study the achievement outcomes of blacks who have been adopted by white parents and raised in a high socioeconomic, privileged environment. The adopted black children still achievement levels consistent with their birth race, rather then their adopted race.

      Another ingenious IQ study is the twin studies. Identical twins are separated at birth and raised in different socioeconomic or racial environments. As adults, their IQs are the same.

      The power of heredity also resonates with me when I think about me and my sisters. The difference in personalities between us seem so obviously innate — they couldn’t be caused by my parents radically changing their parenting approach four times.

      The power of heredity is really apparent in other domesticated animals (of which obviously humans are one). Anyone who has experienced the difference between a border collie and a bull dog knows that the difference between the two is not caused by postnatal environment, but by generations of interbreeding.

      • FincaInTheMountains December 1, 2014 at 6:47 pm #


        Are you kidding me? Thanks, but no, thanks. Those “scientific research” could go anywhere the grant payer wants them to.

        My farther taught me how to read Balzac, Chekhov, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, not how to drink beer. We had a full library of books right in the house.

        So I know a little bit of difference in social upbringing environment.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 7:15 pm #

          Your exposure to Russian literature doubtless improved your quality of life (as it did mine), but it didn’t change your IQ, your work ethic, your time preference, your propensity to violence, etc.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 7:26 pm #

          Sorry, I must say, your automatic dismissal of this peer-reviewed academic journal is really shocking. It’s like pundits and politicians who dispute the consensus among climate scientists about what carbon emissions are doing to the atmosphere and oceans. The study that I linked you to is not a new piece of original research. It’s what’s called a “literature review,” when a set of academic leaders goes and reviews all the relevant studies on a particular subject. Literature reviews are about as conservative and uncontroversial as academic papers come.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 2, 2014 at 1:55 am #

            He’s Jewish. Need I say more? If so, suffice to say they have been passionate foes of any and all racial awareness on the part of Whites for the last century and more. Or perhaps I should say “other Whites” since they believe in it, they just don’t want us to.

            Jared Diamond is a famous hypocrite who preaches loudly about the illusion of race while studying the Jewish genome and marveling at its uniqueness. Whites don’t exist of course, but Jews do.

        • newworld December 1, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

          Do you believe in the blank slate theory? Any proof if you do?

          • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 9:10 pm #

            If you’re addressing me, no of course I don’t believe in the blank slate theory. That was a silly idea of Locke’s that had enormous and terrible repercussions for Western culture.

        • malthuss December 1, 2014 at 11:51 pm #

          farther ??

        • Q. Shtik December 2, 2014 at 1:00 am #

          My farther taught me how to read Balzac, Chekhov, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky……..


          …..but he couldn’t get it through my thick skull how to spell father 😉

      • FincaInTheMountains December 1, 2014 at 6:51 pm #

        And even it is true, it is still false. The society could be stable only on the principle of “social lifts”, independent of race, nationality, legality of your residentship, whatever.

        Everybody must have hope that if they work hard enough, they are going to make it. Even if it is not entirely true.

        Otherwise you are going to have hundreds of Fergusons and disintegrate in couple of years.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 7:14 pm #

          Sorry if the accumulation of decades of independent sociological research, by the most respected sociologists in the field, which also happens to confirm millennia of assumptions about the importance of heredity, seems gloomy to you.

          I think it’s reason for hope, not despair. Western society improved its population over the late middle ages and early modern period by keeping its population stable, and by restricting reproduction to people who were doing well enough to set up a household. The greeks of classical antiquity called this “Eugenia,” or good generation, which has in this century suddenly become reviled as a Darwinist/Nazi horror, when in fact eugenics is as old as agriculture.

          Like you and one assumes all of JHK’s readers, I grew up with a spectacular “nurture.” And obviously as a society we should try to make sure everyone is exposed to the best environment possible.

          But we also need to come to grips with the importance of reproduction and heredity. Right now the poorest and least intelligent members of society are having the most children. We need desperately to reverse this trend. That means encouraging women to go to college and delay childbearing, and, in some cases, to refrain from childbearing. In early modern England, 20% of women never had children because they were too poor, and the culture wasn’t willing to subsidize single moms. And that was a net good not only for society, but also for those women. We also need to make it easier for female professionals to have children.

          It also means a moratorium on immigration. We don’t need any more people in general, and we definitely don’t need anymore people from the third world.

          • malthuss December 2, 2014 at 12:05 am #

            ‘ Right now the poorest and least intelligent members of society are having the most children.’

            Oh really????

            I thought the last 100,000,000 of the USA population increase was mostly due to Immigrants. Legal, Illegal and ‘refugees’ [UN sends us refugees or sets USA policy on, I believe].

            Millions a year.

            And yes Mexicans in USA have LARGER families than those in Mexico.

        • Cassandra December 1, 2014 at 7:21 pm #

          This statement illustrates the insanity and disingenuousness of Obama-era “hope”:

          “And even it is true, it is still false.”

          It’s cruel that we’re telling blacks (and hispanics) that, if they work hard enough, any of them can go to med school or law school. In academia, I see bright black students who would do great in, say, education, marketing, accounting, etc., being pushed to take out massive loans to go to law school and med school, where many of them never graduate. It’s really really sad. It’s also the subject of an interesting book by a law professor, Richard Sander, called “Mismatch.”

          Anyway, we need to policy to be shaped by reality, not delusions.

          • malthuss December 2, 2014 at 12:09 am #

            How do ‘they’ get into Med School? Last I looked those schools were full of Yellows and USA is importing many Indian MDs, hungry for the mega millions a shady MD can make.

            How do they get in? Same as how BHO got into the WH. AA.

    • malthuss December 2, 2014 at 12:02 am #

      Google ‘IKAGO’. Hahahaha.

      And Haitians [blacks] are disliked by their mixed race neighbors on the other side of the Island.

      I forget where I found this,Dominicans don’t want Haitians there as they know how poor, dumb and violent they are.

      poor, victimized Haitians
      (From an NPR sob story on the poor, victimized Haitians)

      “Haitians living and working as illegal immigrants in the Dominican Republic, which shares the island of Hispaniola, have grouped together recently to protest their treatment. The Dominican Republic denies citizenship to Haitians who migrate there to work, and also denies citizenship to Haitian children born in the country.”

      “Look at all black Haiti versus mostly mulatto Dominican Republic. One is desperately poor but at least green.

      The other is a complete disaster, hopelessly savage and ecologically denuded.”
      You are correct, and the Dominicans know why half of the island is better.

      The Dominican Republic has very strict immigration laws against Haitians for that reason. Of course, the Haitians scream that this is racism.

      As is expected, it is not possible for that demographic to be introspective and honest as to why they are not wanted in most lands. Even those lands where the people are only slightly lighter like in the Dominican Republic.

  40. Q. Shtik December 1, 2014 at 6:49 pm #

    Well I’ll be damned, I guess I AM a monkey’s uncle. Not one word about the crash in oil prices.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 1, 2014 at 6:57 pm #

      What about it? Say thanks to Putin for low cost of your tank fill, enjoy it, it aint gona last. They are so hell bent on destroying stability of Russia, that they are ready to destroy their own shale industry,

      Last time that happened after Putin kicked the shit out of Georgia back in August of 2008 – a famous one-day 8.8.8 war. Look at the charts back then, does it remind you of current picture? Than it all went away.

      • Q. Shtik December 2, 2014 at 1:09 am #

        [Than] it all went away.



        • FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 3:50 am #

          Q. Shtik. Finally, an intelligent spell-checker.

  41. Pucker December 1, 2014 at 8:26 pm #

    Over the holiday, I read “Seductive Poison” about Reverend Jim Jones and the People’s Temple cult.

    I learned a new negotiation strategy that, according to the author of ” Seductive Poison”, was one of Reverend Jim Jones’ favorite negotiation strategies. Reverend Jones called it the “Crazy Nigger”. In the “Crazy Nigger”, one party in the negotiation forces the other party to acquiesce by acting really crazy such as, for example, shooting guns in the air, or threatening to commit group suicide. If the People’s Temple couldn’t get want it wanted, then Reverend Jones would instruct his followers (most of whom were black) to start acting “…like a bunch of Crazy Niggers.”

    • newworld December 1, 2014 at 8:58 pm #

      Jones is the model for the Left, America is his cult writ large. That fringe idiot that the Left cannot censor Louis Farrakan has basically called for the group suicide gambit the last couple of days.

  42. newworld December 1, 2014 at 8:50 pm #

    Take notice of that Gutenberg’s rhetoric, he basically exists to shut down any debate, talk about closing down the American mind. You dare not ask any questions or else.

    Why can’t we ask questions, why do we have to tolerate his threats of violence? I mean don’t we have enough speech policing on America’s campuses of group think and political correctness?

    Isn’t the whole concept of “White Guilt” silly and by their own measures “racist?”

    We don’t have to descend into the race war envisioned by such evil people as the gutenbergs of the world we simply have to question the propaganda and rhetoric of “white guilt”, but since the gutenbergs of the world control the legacy media I am not hopeful.

  43. Pucker December 1, 2014 at 8:50 pm #

    At Jonestown in Guyana, Reverend Jones would often pop some prescription drugs and Ludes and then get on the camp loudspeaker to harangue his mostly black slaves with slurred speech about racism in the US and about the need to make a statement by committing group mass “revolutionary suicide” to defend their communist plantation work camp Utopia. The vast majority of the slaves would cheer him and call Reverend Jones “Father”.

    • malthuss December 1, 2014 at 11:53 pm #

      And the cult ws funded by SS and SSI checks from Uncle Sam. I forget the name of the book I read about his ‘hell hole’.

  44. Buck Stud December 1, 2014 at 8:56 pm #

    It’s been disappointing, the lack of quality, prescient analysis regarding Ferguson and other events.

    I ran across this piece which is far better than most at LewRockwell.com of all places:


  45. Q. Shtik December 1, 2014 at 9:42 pm #

    been nice to have a real trial to sort all those [niggling] questions out. – shining hector


    I would advise against using the word [niggling] in a conversation such as this one just as I would advise against using the word niggardly when talking about the alleged propensity of blacks to under-tip. There are folks who just don’t have the vocabulary to handle it.

  46. Pucker December 1, 2014 at 9:43 pm #

    Reverend Jones’ inner circle of leadership cadres were all young white women who Reverend Jones would bone. Basically, they were his wives. Most of the People’s Temple congregation were black people, but Jones relied on young white females for his leadership cadre. According to Tim Reiterman’s book “Raven: The Untold Story of Reverend Jim Jones”, Reverend Jones had a really big dick.

    • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 4:31 pm #

      Reverend Jim “Big Dick” Jones. I like it.

  47. nsa December 1, 2014 at 11:02 pm #

    If you see an afro…..it’s time to move. Ultra stupid ultra violent race….

  48. progress4what December 1, 2014 at 11:15 pm #

    “Poor Tamir Rice was foolishly acting out a childish mime show, pretending to shoot at passers-by. Someone in the neighborhood might have advised him that this was a good way to get himself shot. But no one did. Now, why was that?…” – jhk –

    Great piece of work for the week, JHK. And you’re really attracting the comments. Unfortunately, the comments bifurcate in a way that shows your moniker for our United States of Clusterfuck Nation is, unfortunately, apt.

    I’m really in awe of the quality of comments right now.
    Cassandra has made some of the best I’ve ever seen on CFN, maybe ever.

    And there’s the commenter named Woe, who says, “I’m black and I agree with everything JHK posted. The thug culture will be our downfall. The MSM is pouring gasoline on a fire.”

    Yeah. No doubt, Woe. It seems to be all a game to our “news” organizations and most of the commentariat – they pretend to ignore the fact that this game has serious consequences. Most of these consequences are going to fall on minority communities, especially black ones. I wish this were not so. I devoted a considerable portion of one particular career to making it not be so – but that’s not working out like we all hoped it would back in the ’60’s and ’70’s, is it?

    Because there’s Mr. Gutenberg. Wow! If you wanted to find an entity that advocates for apology and nonstop continuation of disastrous policy – Gutenberg would be the spokesperson.
    I suspect Gutenberg is white, and has no idea of the realities underlying life in a society with constraints on resources.

    Whereas Woe does understand.
    Woe knows.
    Woe is us.

    Thanks for the week’s work, JHK!

  49. Q. Shtik December 1, 2014 at 11:40 pm #

    I know. It’s like a minstrel show, innit? – Dmeehan


    I’ve been following this whole discussion and it is obvious to any thinking person that Cassandra wins the debate HANDS DOWN!!

    • dmeehan December 2, 2014 at 5:43 pm #

      “HANDS DOWN”

      I see what you did there.

  50. Pucker December 2, 2014 at 12:02 am #

    According to James K. Galbraith’s excellent new book “The End of Normal”, the era of high economic growth in the U.S. is now over due to various factors, including “Peak Oil” which means the end of cheap resources necessary for high profits, and oil price stability necessary for capitalists to feel secure enough to invest in future production. Galbraith says that mainstream economics is Lost in that it assumes as Truth an economic model in which a return to stable high economic growth is the norm, and that issues such as rule-of-law and financial fraud are unimportant.

    At the end of the book, Galbraith predicts a future Collapse of the U.S. economy paralleling the Collapse of the former Soviet Union due to an economically outmoded US economic structure of high fixed costs that cannot be paid for at the much lower current rate of economic activity. Galbraith says that the US can now persist largely because the rest of the world is willing to accept US dollars which cost the US government nothing to produce in exchange for imported real goods and resources. It is not clear how long this arrangement can last?

    Galbraith’s solution is to re-engineer the US economy dumping much of the superfluous US military machine (high fixed costs with no return) in favour of expanded social welfare, in particular an early retirement age for US workers.

    • Florida Power December 4, 2014 at 8:54 am #

      US Military Machine: High Fixed Costs with No Return?

      The US Military machine is the reason “the rest of the world is willing to accept US dollars.”

  51. beantownbill. December 2, 2014 at 12:07 am #

    It is interesting to me that a discussion of black-white relations seems to always degenerate into comments of black inferiority. It appears that the commenters are angry about so-called black inferiority, or feel the need to bring it up. Why is that? That really begs the issue. It’s a red herring.

    For the sake of argument, let’s assume it’s true that the average black’s IQ is 80 or 85. That still gives a black person enough intelligence to want to have and to appreciate the nice things our society can offer. So wanting to get these things would seem to be logical and reasonable.

    But our society’s white guilt – which is much discussed here – has tried to make up for blacks’ theoretical lack of ability to compete, and for their oppression by society, by compensating them to try to level the playing field at the expense of whites. I can see why whites would be angry. But the thing is, why take it out on black’s who want good things?

    • beantownbill. December 2, 2014 at 12:22 am #

      Isn’t whites’ anger misplaced? Shouldn’t they be angry at the whites who set up this unfair system, rather than blacks who want what whites want?

      I should say I don’t believe in the whole IQ significance. No one has yet convinced me that IQ has relevance; the argument is vague. My post above just made a statement for the sake of argument about black IQ, not that I believe it.means anything.

      I know many blacks who are successful, wealthy and intelligent. Even if they are outliers on the bell curve, they still have a lot of value to our society. Whatever you think of Jews, imagine if Einstein and his family were eliminated when he was a teenager. The world would have suffered a great loss, and we may still have been In a relatively (pun intended) primitive technological state.o

      • Janos Skorenzy December 2, 2014 at 2:16 am #

        That is also the argument of the authors of The Bell Curve, Murray and Hernstein. Jared Taylor simply pointed out that Blacks are NOT satisfied with the individual’s right to advance and enjoy the fruits of their labor. They are obsessed with collective racial triumph – by hook or by crook. By any means, fair or foul.

        And since they take this tack – and are empowered by Jews and Liberals to do so – Whites are forced to act in a similar way to defend ourselves. To act as mere individuals in the face of this threat is plain suicide.

      • malthuss December 2, 2014 at 12:22 pm #

        ‘I know many blacks who are successful, wealthy and intelligent. ‘
        But they are not in Detrot, Hate-i or Afreaka.

        They prosper in majority White lands not in African lands.
        They use inventions created by White Males [sometimes jews, salk, Einstein, Hedy Lamarr].

        End of conversation.

        Africa = mud huts, one story tall. Then came YT.

  52. Pucker December 2, 2014 at 12:34 am #

    The black Civil Rights Movement assumed a US economy that today no longer exists. As Collapse progresses and as new technologies displace more workers than they replace, the American blacks will not make it. They’ll be overwhelmed by their dire economic circumstances and the Complexity of the world. They look for easy answers, such as White Conspiracy and racism. They’ll Freak Out.

    • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 9:54 am #

      That is true for all of us. No one listened when Ross Perot talked about the giant sucking sound. No one discussed GATT, the piece of legislation that affected the average person more than any other legislation of the time. How can a worker in America compete? You can hire 50 Chinese for every American that gets displaced. What company can resist? That is why countries have tariffs. To protect workers and industries. Corporations are super national now. They have no allegiance any more.

    • malthuss December 2, 2014 at 12:25 pm #

      Then why does our ‘black’ president import so many people with no English and little in the way of job skills?

      In DC a major pathway to the middle class for Blacks was having a Cabbies License.
      The black cook, nanny, janitor is being replaced.
      And Blacks often prefer EBT ETC than a lowly job working for the man.

  53. grouch December 2, 2014 at 2:39 am #

    I hope you watched today’s Daily Show. Your racist screed has forever alienated me. I have followed you for many years, probably from the earliest days of your blog, but this does it for me. I have never commented. I registered today to post this comment. It may never reach the list of comments, but I feel compelled to comment on your execrable remarks. As a Jew, you should feel empathy for the abused and downtrodden of society. Your people were treated as blacks have been for centuries, but now you feel entitled to dump on a segment of society that has been treated as badly as Jews were. But now that the Jews are on top, you think that you can trash the blacks because of something over which they have no control, i.e. the police state that keeps them under the heel of the controllers. Shame on you, James Kunstler, and shame on those who blame the victims of the police state that America has become. Why don’t you just call Rupert Murdoch and see if you can’t get a show on Fox News? I have had your blog bookmarked for years. Today is the day I remove that bookmark and cease reading your recycled rants forever. By the way, you’re a shitty novelist.

    • malthuss December 2, 2014 at 12:26 pm #

      Good riddance to the aptly named ‘grouch’.
      You will not be missed.

  54. FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 4:23 am #

    “Look at all black Haiti versus mostly mulatto Dominican Republic. One is desperately poor but at least green.”

    The reason Haiti has gone treeless is that since they are unable to afford cooking gas, most of the trees were cut down to produce charcoal. In Dominican Republic they subsidize purchase of LPG – up to 12 bucks a month.

    Haitians are very good workers, when they have work, much better than Dominicans. When there is no work and they go hungry for months, they do tend to become “crazy” and violent. I wonder how long it will take YOU to go crazy and violent.

    Still, it is all about economic opportunities. When signing a CAFTA (Caribbean Free Trade) Dominican politicians had enough brains to protect with high tariffs their chicken-growing industry and dairy industry. (Probably because large families have interest in chicken-growing farms). Their chickens are still edible, which I can not say about American chickens. The natural milk cost twice less than imported powdered milk and still delicious.

    Haitians were more unlucky and allowed Liberal Economic Model totally destroy their food-growing industry.

    However, give Dominican time and under Liberal policy of Washington Consensus they wont be much better off than Haitians. The interest rates are above 25% a year, which excludes even remote opportunity of any development, aside for foreign “investors”, e.g. modern time slaveholders or government sponsored projects.

    For instance, Dominican Republic have a barter agreement with Venezuela: oil-for-beans. Instead of promoting a bean-growing industry with low-interest loans, help with agricultural “best practices” and guaranteed purchases of produce, they started buying beans abroad to exchange them for oil – of course, King Dollar must be upheld at all costs.

    So don’t look at the skin color, look at the economic policies of the government and existing opportunities of bettering ones life through hard work.

  55. FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 4:59 am #

    Heads and tails: Grossmeister Putin makes a “Turkish move”

    After US put a heavy pressure on Bulgarian government and prohibit them against their best interest to allow Russian “South Stream” gas pipeline to land in Bulgaria after going under the Black Sea, Putin struck a deal with Erdogan to build new 63 bcm Black Sea pipeline to Turkey, from where it is going to be distributed to Southern European countries and to Austria.

    I guess Bulgaria is going to dearly miss few thousand construction and maintenance jobs, as well as billions in transit fees. Too bad, Turkey is now going to have it.

    These days American “friendship” is way too expensive.


  56. FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 5:32 am #

    Russia will play alone and leave the International Space Station Project

    According to Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, Roskosmos will no longer participate in the ISS project. That was announced in an official agency press release.

    According to Mr.Rogozin, collaborating with the International Space Station for Russia is “past stage.” In early 2015 the Federal Space Agency plans to submit a draft of its own space station, which will be launched in two years, by 2017.

    You wanted the economic war, now you are getting it. Americans will have no way of putting their astronauts in space anymore.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 5:45 am #

      By the way, contrary to what most Americans with IQ below average think, Space programs are not for rich tourists, they are crucial for some technological breakthroughs.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 6:00 am #

        So true. Without the Gemini Missions, we never would have discovered Tang. God, I love that stuff.

      • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 9:46 am #

        The space program never generated any technological breakthroughs. I worked on the shuttle. It was a piece of junk. Like Dennis Miller said, “Let me get this straight, the space shuttle was brought down by a piece of FOAM!!!!!” He forgot to add the first was brought down by an o-ring.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 2, 2014 at 2:53 pm #

          I’m surprised a dweeb like you likes Dennis Miller. He’s wrong btw, the o-ring revolutionized sexual technology. And didn’t foam enhance abortion technology? As a Liberal, you’re supposed to be in favor of these things.

          You’re right in the main though: we should have never scrapped Apollo. And what did Fenyman say? NASA had developed a culture where hard questions weren’t allowed.

          • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 3:58 pm #

            I am a political atheist. Wrong again Maude!

    • FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 7:29 am #

      America can not quickly eliminate its lag in manned spaceflights, nor can they rush and develop their own quickly – too much risk of disasters that are very image-harmful.

      So, most likely Americans will simply pretend that they don’t really feel like sending astronauts into space to begin with.

      One of the cornerstones Russophobia propaganda is the claim that Russia is allegedly a backward country, which should learn from the West and, in general, in every possible way obey the West.

      When it becomes clear that the “backward” Russia has its own space station, and the “civilized” West has nothing but humanitarian bombing campaigns and “cultural tolerance” parades it will be very difficult to continue to exploit this myth.

  57. Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 6:22 am #

    Say thanks to Putin for low cost of your tank

    No, say thanks to me. I suggested it back in May and here we are. Putin didn’t ask for low oil prices nor does he want it. But I did (and everyone told me “no way, it can’t happen, it’s not going to happen”), and yet you not only show me no gratitude, but instead give gratitude to a megalomaniac who deplores the current lower oil price and would change it immediately — if he could. Remove your lips from Putin’s ass, Finca — it’s unbecoming. I suppose I’ll have to do a blog post to set the record straight. They do listen, but they never, and I mean never, give proper and gracious attribution to the source, or sources, that motivate(s) and influence(s) their actions.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 6:59 am #

      We do not need low oil prices, or high oil prices, we need fair oil prices set in long-lasting contracts by real supply-and-demand discovery mechanisms, not by derivatives speculators extracting their undue cut out of the world economy without getting their rosy-white Anglo-Saxon hands dirty.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 7:36 am #

        No argument from me with that statement. I agree completely.

      • BackRowHeckler December 2, 2014 at 7:57 am #

        Hey FC Russian hands are pretty rosy white, too. In one of the Federal agencies I worked for I had a black co worker tell me he always dismissed the possibility of Nuclear War with Russia because ‘You’re the same people”.


        • FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 9:12 am #

          Russians are the white race “blacks”. The English word “slave” comes from the word “Slav”.

        • FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 9:17 am #

          No wonder that rosy-white Anglo Saxon “Humans rights” organisations don’t give a flying f*ck about mass murder of Slav civilians in SE Ukraine by Kiev’s Nazi.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 2, 2014 at 2:57 pm #

            And the world still doesn’t care about the millions of Russians and Ukrainians slaughtered by Communism when it was dominated by Jews.

            America was very pro-Russian back then. But after Stalin began to push Jews out of power, America began to become Anti-Russian. Interesting, eh?

        • malthuss December 2, 2014 at 12:30 pm #

          Do not be stoopid.
          Whites have killed other Whites since prehistoric times.

          Here my dear,
          160 million people died in wars during the 20th century


  58. Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 6:24 am #

    How do they get in? Same as how BHO got into the WH. AA.

    I have never trusted Alcoholics Anonymous. Now I know why.

  59. Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 6:38 am #

    It’s like pundits and politicians who dispute the consensus among climate scientists about what carbon emissions are doing to the atmosphere and oceans.

    Uh oh. The angel with cloven hooves. I knew something didn’t seem quite right. Hey Q. Shtik, if Eugenics is properly practiced, your entire family, including you of course first and foremost, will be going to the ovens along with the rest of the rabble, so keep cheering Cassandra on. You and your family would never make the cut for what these creeps have in mind, but you’re so dense, obviously, you can’t see the angle.

    Global Warming: Natural or Manmade?

    • progress4what December 2, 2014 at 8:53 am #

      ” if Eugenics is properly practiced, your entire family, including you of course first and foremost, will be going to the ovens along with the rest of the rabble…” – cold –

      Wrong, cold. Eugenics, properly practiced, had nothing at all to do with sending people to the ovens. Free and effective birth control and wisely applied financial incentives would have accomplished all goals.

      Note the past tense. Discussion of eugenics is another sliding deck chair on a sinking ship, at this point.

  60. Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 6:53 am #

    Burnt is a secondary past tense of burn but, like you, I much prefer burned.

    For me it depends, as does most everything. Substituting “burned” for “burnt” disturbs the rhythm and effect of the following title, so “burned” is definitely not preferable to “burnt” in this instance, and many more instances, most notably in adjectival phrases.

    Burnt Offerings

  61. BackRowHeckler December 2, 2014 at 7:45 am #

    How about the newly married 30 year old Bosnian immigrant dragged from his car at a St Louis intersection the other night and beat to death with claw hammers by a group of Black ‘Youth’ in front of his wife? You think Obama and Sharpton talked that over at their race summit in the White House yesterday? Do white lives matter? Its kind of hard to find in the news but its there for anyone who cares to look.

    Also, I have the local TV news on here, and the networks must have not received the message that Blacks are innocent victims, not vicious assailants. At least 6 home invasions, armed robberies and beat downs last night in Hartford, Bridgeport, Waterbury and New Haven, and all video and photos show suspects in blackface. I can see the day when news reports with video and photos such as these are made illegal, to further obfuscate reality.

    To JHK, i don’t know if you scan this comments section … but yesterday I found this book at the used book store in Niantic, CT (a wonderful place, incidentally) ‘Looking Forward’ by Arthur Bird, written in 1899, predicting what the world would look like in 1999. You have explored this theme, ‘Yesterday’s Tomorrow’. To give you an idea what its all about here’s the 1st sentence of chapter 14, “When the Good Lord created the earth, He reserved the Western Hemisphere for the exclusive use and control of the Yankees”. That’s just one gem in this book.


    • Buck Stud December 2, 2014 at 9:23 am #

      “You think Obama and Sharpton talked that over at their race summit in the White House yesterday? Do white lives matter? ”

      According to the St.Louis Post Dispatch the police termed the murder ‘not racially motivated’. And I’m surprised that you, BRH, didn’t mention that in your post as you were one hundred percent behind the police account of the events in Ferguson.

      Did you somehow miss this even though ‘you cared to look’?

      • BackRowHeckler December 2, 2014 at 10:26 am #

        Ok Buck. But a news story claimed these ‘youths’ were shouting about ‘killing whitey’ before the attack.

        What possibly could be the motive for 15-17 year old boys to beat a man to death with claw hammers, on the street, in front of his young wife? Its a mystery.

        • cornpone2014 December 2, 2014 at 11:05 am #

          BRH & BuckWheat

          Not much of a mystery when you factor in low intelligence.

        • malthuss December 2, 2014 at 12:44 pm #

          What possibly could be the motive for 15-17 year old boys to beat a man to death ??? Duhhhh ….it is called the ‘Knock Out Game’.
          Thrill killing of non Blacks by Blacks.

          • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 2:07 pm #

            I think they asked that same question about Emmett Till. I think he looked at a white woman wrong.

          • Buck Stud December 2, 2014 at 10:04 pm #


            What can I say, what can anybody say about the despicable, execution of Trapuzzio.

            His wife, per the Google link, apparently ‘prayed’ for the demonic scum who murdered her husband. She’s a better person that I am, because that’s the last thing I would do.

            What a beautiful, vibrant lad Trapuzzio appeared to be…I hate to read shit like this. And yet, in a situation like that who could argue against a Trapuzzio being armed and able to defend himself?

        • Buck Stud December 2, 2014 at 2:05 pm #

          Who knows what really happened; I was just yanking your chain a bit since the official police version is the one you adamantly believed in Ferguson but apparently not now.

          Having said that it doesn’t mean I believe it. If you kill another human being with a hammer it’s another level of personal vendetta to my way of thinking. So in my limited knowledge of the event–and it’s very limited–this sort of disgustingly violent crime has the feel of a Reginald Denny brick all over it

          And I I also don’t understand why certain events get swept under the media rug while others are highlighted, The 12 yr old boy’s death didn’t get a lot of media play either in comparison to Ferguson.

          The other day I was driving down the street and a young Latino youth was walking right in the middle of the street in defiance of automobiles. I had to slow down and wait for an oncoming car to pass me before I get around this idiot with an attitude. When I passed him he flipped me off and I thought of the lyrics from that old Bruce Springsteen song: ‘there was a lot of fights between the blacks and whites and there was nothing you could do’.

          And there’s not much somebody like me can do except, perhaps, to realize that for every encounter like that I have hundreds that are civilized, respectful and polite. And yet it’s the ‘occasional’ which stands out by virtue of it’s rarity. To take a page from the art of composition, if a small jagged white shape occupies a small aspect of a large square black space that will be what stands out by virtue of it’s contrast and not unlike the rare and disturbing encounter.

          And while Bruce sang that there is ‘nothing one can do’ perhaps fighting the good fight is trying to keep the composition in perspective if you will. And to do that one has to detach from preconceptions and prejudices in order to better see clearly.

          • malthuss December 3, 2014 at 1:00 pm #

            ‘The other day I was driving down the street and a young Latino youth was walking right in the middle of the street in defiance of automobiles’.

            There are a few reasons for these antics.
            The game where youths lay down on the road [some sort of dare].
            Hopes of being hit slightly but getting big insurance money.
            Youthful folly.
            Being under the influence.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 2, 2014 at 3:02 pm #

        I am well pleased by Fergusson as a whole. Countless Whites have awakened to the Negro Peril or at least stirred in their sleep. This has been a disaster for the Dominant Meme or Racial Equality – one of the most ridiculous and pernicious world views ever promulgated, right up there with Islam as a religion of peace.

        • malthuss December 3, 2014 at 12:54 pm #

          ‘Ferguson’. So you want ‘the war’ sooner than later?

          • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 7:46 pm #

            Janos wants something pretty scary, that’s all I can say. Haven’t heard expressions like “Negro Peril” in many decades.

            I DO remember the Yellow Peril, but that was before that so-called Communist regime in China decided to turn its country into a huge forced-labor camp. Now they’re our buddies!

            And I have NEVER seen or heard someone express such vitriol against several different ethnic groups/races in one rant.

            Awfully bitter about something, and looking for someone to blame.

  62. BackRowHeckler December 2, 2014 at 8:36 am #

    JHKs column is posted over on Alex Jone’s Infowars site.

  63. progress4what December 2, 2014 at 8:43 am #

    “I hope you watched today’s Daily Show. Your racist screed has forever alienated me. (snip) Why don’t you just call Rupert Murdoch and see if you can’t get a show on Fox News? I have had your blog bookmarked for years.” – grouch, to JHK –

    And there you have it, the essence of American “liberalism,” which has become a horrible misnomer, here in 2014. Any upsetting idea is “racist.” Any author with which they disagree has written a “racist screed.” Any one who challenges their thinking should “get a show on Fox News.”

    Wow. No wonder native born American blacks are having a hard time, if people like grouch are trying to “help” them.


    • Janos Skorenzy December 2, 2014 at 4:06 pm #

      Yes one would need the literary talents of a Dickens to describe the modern Liberal mindset. Their self righteousness and foolish pomposity are off the charts. Dickens did describe the beginning of modern Political Correctness: one of his characters, a Mrs Jellaby, would knit wool sweaters for African children who didn’t need them. Meanwhile, the Scots who lived on her vast estate were dying of exposure and being thrown off her land in favor of sheep.

      • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 6:21 pm #

        Dickens was a sorcerer. A Christmas Carol is a rite of passage for a sorcerer. Besides, Dickens was a dick.

      • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 7:50 pm #

        Oh, I get it, stereotype as in caricature!

        “Yes one would need the literary talents of a Dickens to describe the modern Liberal mindset. Their self righteousness and foolish pomposity are off the charts.”

        Name calling is what this is. Oh, and do you think Dickens was a Tory?

  64. Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 9:00 am #

    I have the local TV news on here…

    Come on, brh, you seriously admit to watching the local news? I never watch the local news because that’s all it is, and as JHK notes in his blog post and I’ve noted many times before, that’s for a reason — there’s an agenda at play and in play. Alright, I’m lying, one time not too long ago I watched the local news, but not voluntarily. They had it on at the doctor’s office so I couldn’t tune it out. The entirety of the coverage was violence and murder — reported with smiles on their faces. Why would you watch that crap? It’s not good for the soul. Try chicken soup instead.

    • BackRowHeckler December 2, 2014 at 9:07 am #

      Hey CNH, if you’re still looking in …

      that blog of yours, the latest one, its pretty interesting …

      a lot of thought and work went in to putting it together, that much is clear. And good luck on your new business venture …

      • progress4what December 2, 2014 at 9:11 am #

        Yeah. Ditto from me on both counts, cold.

        I would comment at your place, but I’m not sure I want to give up my email address to you.

        • Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 9:23 am #

          You don’t have to worry about me. I do not betray confidences. I know Q. Shtik’s identity but would never reveal it against his wishes to anyone. I’m curious is all — a benignly fit Columbo who jogs and drinks and wears Sherpa sweaters versus a trench coat.

          Thanks for the good wishes and good will. Every little bit helps.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 9:18 am #

        Thanks, brh. It does take a lot of research and thought to put those posts together — especially the thought part of it. This is how I fill the time when I’m running. I formulate the idea and outline as I gasp for air and before you know it, that 7 or 10 miles has come and gone and Sylvie and I head back to the house.

        I’m confident about the business. For five years, or more, now I haven’t let it drop sometimes to my wife’s chagrin. It’s a big step for her, so I have to challenge her on occasion to keep her chin up and forge ahead. She’s a trooper/trouper though, and if anyone in her family is capable of succeeding at such a venture and adventure, it’s her. My hope is that once we have this up and running and break-even (pay-off the investors), she will be completely self-sustaining should I kick the bucket early. Same goes for the children.

  65. FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 9:04 am #

    Russia’s asymmetrical response to sanctions

    Gradually become clear contours of asymmetrical response to the anti-Russian sanctions, which Russian president warned about. This is an attack on the dollar – obviously planned in advance. The third country after China and Turkey, which will begin settlements in national currencies will be Iran.

    According to Minister of Economic Development Alexei Ulyukayev, the bilateral relations between Iran and Russia will soon include mechanisms for the use of national currencies.

    These mechanisms involve loans in national currencies, the use of contracts in the national currencies. Central banks of the two countries rolled up their sleeves and go full steam ahead. “They have already begun this work,” – said the Minister.

    Supplies from Iran under the “oil-for-goods” will begin in the nearest future – the corresponding memorandum was signed in August. Russia intends to promote new equipment for the oil and gas, agricultural machinery, automobiles, aircraft, rolling stock, power machines, electric generators.

    The traditional way of delivery – water route between Astrakhan and Iranian ports on the Caspian Sea. However, discussions are being made regarding other routes – using the port of Makhachkala, as well as land – even through Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan . It is also possible to use a cargo aircraft.

    Iran is becoming one of the key areas in Middle East politics. It is so important that the West even went to the partial lifting of sanctions in the light of the ISIS threat and the loss of traditional partner to sort out the most complex problems – Moscow.


    • Buck Stud December 2, 2014 at 9:36 am #

      Since you frequently post Russian military capability articles I posted the below link– I found it on the Rockwell site.

      Personally, I have no idea but if true it surprises me somewhat that Russia is perhaps more technologically advanced than the U.S. in some military aspects.

      I’m probably stuck in some first Gulf War time warp when the U.S. first unleashed their ‘smart bombs’ and the Chinese, allegedly, were rudely horrified by the devastating capability of the U.S. military in that type of open desert terrain which also is similar to large swaths of Northern China.

      It does make sense, though, that the technological gap has closed. And BTW, a neighbor who just recently left the Navy told a very similar story of Chinese subs which was also mentioned in the article:


  66. Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 9:09 am #

    Another thing that makes me laugh, I know — there are so many things that do, is resorting to the Black card when trying to defend against charges of racism. For example, Lush Blimpblow yesterday had to quote Charles Barkley. Sorry Lush, I don’t need Charles Barkley to weigh in, or you to weigh in, in my reviewing of the facts and making my own determination. Black or White doesn’t enter into the equation, but apparently it does for you Blimpblow and more than a few others, and that’s telling. In effect, Lush is saying, “see, one of your/their own, Charles Barkley, agrees with us (whoever us is).” The irony is if Sir Charles’ quoted comments are verified as something he actually said, Sir Charles disowns the rioters as his own people and labels them scumbags. Lush’s use of Barkley as a foil undermines and contradicts Barkley’s point and sentiment.

  67. Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 9:26 am #

    JHKs column is posted over on Alex Jone’s Infowars site.

    We ought to start an office pool on how many comments are generated this week. I’m guessing 700+. Anyone else?

    • ZrCrypDiK December 3, 2014 at 5:59 am #

      With this “new” Cassandra, already at 38, it should clearly hit 500-550…


  68. seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 9:42 am #

    There’s a famous Star Trek episode where 2 races are arguing over policy, and finally Kirk says why are you fighting so much when you’re so alike and one of them points out that one race is black on the right side and white on the left, and the other is the exact opposite. Dick Van Dyke had an episode where he comes home from the hospital and thinks he has the wrong baby. So he calls up the other couple and they immediately come over. When he opens the door and the couple is black, has asks why didn’t you just say something over the phone and the guy answers “I just wanted to see your face.” America was literally founded on racist principles, which are essentially Judeo Christian. It is inculcated from youth. It will never end. That is the story. Trying to change it is like everyone on the planet taking a leak in the ocean. It still don’t mean diddly.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 2, 2014 at 3:58 pm #

      America was founded on race? Yes. Thank you. This policy is based Judeo-Christianity? Yes and No. The Judeo but not the Christo. Christianity has lost touch with its Old Testament roots which were grounded in property, fertility, the cycles of nature, nationhood, self defense, etc. It is purely spiritualized (not spiritual) now and considers serving minorities the same as serving God. Indeed, they bring them in by the boat load.

      You talk as if such a founding was a bad thing. How else could America have been founded? Did you expect the White settlers to work and suffer for the Indians? Or for the Blacks? What people would do that? What country was founded on race or ethnic color blindness?

      • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 6:19 pm #

        You have a guilt complex. You know it was wrong to annihilate the Indians so you compensate by going even further to the right. You’re like rectitude squared to the rectum power. I would guess a southerner, probably Alabama or Mississippi. You revel in this technological accomplishment you call an economy. This economy is now killing off species of animals by the boatload. I suppose that’s OK. Kill everything except you and your kind and rename the place Lilly White Land.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 12:48 am #

          If we didn’t conquer the Indians, we wouldn’t even be here having this conversation. You wouldn’t exist, at least not in your current body and personality. Amazing how you are so willing to chop at the roots of your own existence.

          Tone down the idealism. After all, idealism is for the living not the dead or non-existent. Thus the first morality is survival as Tom Jefferson said.

          • seawolf77 December 3, 2014 at 9:03 am #

            Oh that’s deep. Maybe if that comet hadn’t hit we’d all be dinosaurs.

      • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 8:07 pm #

        I seem to recall hearing something about a guy named Jesus Christ whose basic message was “Dump the Old Testament”! Something about a New Dispensation.

        Also interesting considering how you’ve smeared the Jews in this stream.

        Lots of reasons for how America was founded, religious freedom being one frequently cited. “A better life” another.

        Also, about that guy Jesus Christ. Why wouldn’t “serving minorities” come under, “What you do to the least of these,” or some such. Charity, humility, compassion. I’m not a believer, but I’ll take the New Testament.

  69. budizwiser December 2, 2014 at 9:44 am #

    I grew up 5 miles from Ferguson. As a student, I lived next to Ferguson and I routinely commuted through the area.

    Something to understand about “ferguson” – is that as a municipality – it never got the “racially related” press that so many of its neighbors did.

    Talk to people from St Louis about – at the one from north country – and they will all tell you about places like Wellston, Kinloch, Normandy or Berkely.

    All these other hamlets have had bigger problems than this guy. They were all original “white flight” suburbs from the ’40s……..

    Now they have become “mixed” areas – struggling for whatever quality of life they can provide on a “block by block” basis.

    JK – you know the “sprawl routines.” The last people to leave the joint are the white power structures ie, police etc……

  70. FincaInTheMountains December 2, 2014 at 10:55 am #

    Logic of Putin approach to work with internal and external partners, competitors and even enemies have long been known to all who are willing to look at things rationally.

    In the first stage, Putin puts forward a very favorable compromise. This is taken as a sign of weakness and is rejected. In the second stage, the situation for the person who rejected the compromise is deteriorating and Putin proposes a new compromise, but on much less profitable terms. And so it goes on and on up until a compromise is reached or until “discontent partner” chokes up on polonium scarf in London. On the example of the situation of the South Stream we see step number two: the worsening situation of the European Union with a hint of a new compromise in the form of an extended “Blue Stream” to Turkey and gas hub on the border with Greece.

    In fact, Putin is now forcing the EU to recognize that the mess in Ukraine is not Russia’s, but European problem. Reaching agreements on gas, in which the most important was that the EU recognized the debt and Ukraine did not agree with the fact that Russia has every right to demand advance payment, you would expect that out of sheer self-preservation Brussels will either give Kiev money, or pay for Kiev directly, or just turn away and wait for Moscow to put things in order in Kiev.

    For political reasons and under pressure from the US, Brussels decided not to do any of that. Giving money to Kiev to pay for gas – is useless and dangerous for the person who will sign the payment order from the EU – the career of this officer will be ruined. Pay directly for Kiev is a catastrophic humiliation in front of the opposition, business, taxpayers and voters who will not forgive politicians that they had a falling out with Russia just o get privilege to pay for the debts of US puppets in Kiev. To turn away as Moscow brings order to Kiev, European officials don’t want to, because behind them are terrible Americans armed with folders compromising materials NSA collected over the past few decades.

    As a result, an ostrich approach has prevailed in EU – the hope that Moscow will at all costs deliver gas to Europe, even if they have to endure “theft in debt” by the Kiev regime. In recent weeks, even for the most die-hard European politicians became clear that the wait for the Kremlin giving up is not worth it. It is obvious that the Kremlin was very angry at the sanctions and would gladly arrange Europe something worse than the remake of previous “gas wars” just to give a hint to European politicians that their actions against Russia will remain without consequences and that Russia will continue to remain open and accommodating partner.

    The ritual slaughter of South Stream pipeline, made in front of the European press, is sharp and clear message. European politicians hoped that Europe will have to resort to endure a single cold winter without gas and destruction of “Russia’s imperial ambitions” worth the sacrifice. According to European logic (it is not very different from the Ukrainian-logic), Russia is in dire need of European gas market, Gazprom will have to build the South Stream at their expense, give half of it capacity to competitors, as required by the “third energy package of the EU,” and will continue to sponsor gas supplies to Ukraine – all in order to preserve access to the European market.

    Putin has destroyed this logic, marking a new vector of Russia’s energy policy.


  71. Marshall Adams December 2, 2014 at 10:58 am #

    I thought this was a particularly lazy essay lacking any original thought or research. JHK’s method of analysis appears to be: 1.) consume cable TV infotainment, 2.) reaffirm internalized opinions, 3.) rehash the cable TV programming for other people who watch cable news (and follow Alex Jones, apparently) to come and agree with. This essay added literally nothing to the discussion. Really disappointing because he used to have groundbreaking ideas.

    • Ted Stosterone December 2, 2014 at 12:02 pm #

      I disagree. Finding JHK’s column yesterday rejuvenated me—finally someone making sense. Jim thinks for himself and prefers truths to social approval.

  72. nsa December 2, 2014 at 11:28 am #

    WiggerNation crime stat: 60% of the murders in the USA are committed by 2% of the population….any of you wiggers care to guess the age and race demographics of the 2%? Hint: it’s not asians over the age of 25……..

  73. drewkeeling December 2, 2014 at 12:24 pm #

    Patricia Bynes:


    “If [you] can’t stand up to the punks and the hoodlums who are giving the protest a bad name, you’re not ready to stand up to the police…You throw a rock and hide behind a peaceful crowd, you’re a coward…”

    “If they’ve been doing the same tactics for 100 days and absolutely nothing has changed…change the tactics.”

  74. volodya December 2, 2014 at 2:32 pm #

    This Ferguson fiasco was made to order. Listen to the rhetoric coming from Lib-Left fruitcakes and the answering salvos from Neo-assorted-nut-bar opposites. Sadly, a great many people get caught up in it. What’s the point of it?

    It fits into a broader social-economic-political context of divide and conquer. By who? That’s an easy one.

    And it’s not just race hustlers, as JHK calls them, there’s other hustlers with other angles. Political hustlers fomenting regional factionalism, for instance, or hustlers all about the rights and privileges of illegals as if people have the right to cross whatever border they like without so much as a how do you do to people who already live there.

    Imagine if Americans did that, imagine if they crossed into other people’s countries. People recoil. It’s not right, it’s colonialism, it’s an infringement, isn’t it?

    But if people from the south do the same to the US well, that’s ok. Hustlers come out of the wood-work, hustling for some angle on ethnic particularism, all of them looking to hustle out a living, as politicians, in the media (think Univision), or as academics with crack-pot history and junk theories to sell.

    A lot of hustlers make a living out of hustling all these fracture lines. But, if you follow the money, the hustlers are small potatoes. The hustlers may carve out a bit for themselves but they really serve the interests of bigger people with big money to make, with already huge fortunes at stake.

    The Lib-Left hustlers are all about themselves and their comfortable sinecures and they don’t give a damn about wider agendas. Their ideological counterparts are the same, all living in the same pockets, fulfilling the same objectives. Fuck the consequences, they’ll take the money. An easy life it is for sell outs, no busting their ass picking crops for next to nothing, no, that’s for lesser people. You see, the hustler doesn’t give a shit about Latinos or whatever other cause, the hustler only pretends, in the end, the hustler hustles for himself, for his own wallet, for his own aggrandizement.

    What are the objectives? For those relative few it’s money, outlandish money, stupendous fortunes and unbridled, unfettered freedom to indulge in whatever whim, to partake of whatever degeneracy, without the slightest fear of consequence. Laws? What laws? Laws are for little people. That’s the objective, that’s the over-riding agenda. Legislative grid-lock? Are you kidding? What more can they ask? Mass surveillance? Sure, for everybody else but not them.

    And the route from here to there is through witting and unwitting dupes, all playing out their role, all looking out for number one. The relative few, the people at the pinnacle can’t do it all themselves.

    But they can persuade and manipulate, by means of money and reward, they can cater to the base instincts of the hustlers, who see opportunity, hustling for themselves. And they rely on these hustlers and their hangers-on to generate the waves.

    I’ve done some thinking and come to the conclusion that sex is the opposite of money. Why? Because, as they say, sex is dirty only if it’s done right.

  75. edward4432 December 2, 2014 at 3:23 pm #

    Michael Brown did not deserve to die for what he did. The cop was a coward and was frightened by the black man bogyman. What followed was a ugly as it gets with the prosecutor making sure there would be no trial. Everything wrong with America is on display here. And Kunstler’s knee-jerk reaction diminished him no end.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm #

      You think that you could slam a police cruiser door on a cop as he was getting out to talk to you, punch him in the face, and then try and take his gun and not get shot if you were White? Shut up and get lost. Go back to kindergarten – you need to start all over.

      • seawolf77 December 2, 2014 at 9:26 pm #

        You figured all that out how…by twisting what you think you know around a cherry pick tree. Darren Wilson is alive. He can walk around and breathe and shit and fuck and scratch his ass. Mike Brown is dead. You understand? DEAD. He’ll never do anything ever again. All because what? He didn’t listen to the chicken shit cop with the big ass gun.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 12:43 am #

          So we should have no police? Or just no White police? Or you think we should have police and be able to slap them around? That kind of defeats the ability of their being able to keep order.

          You feel bad about the Gentle Giant? Go visit his grave along with Krugs and Buck. Wear you white gown and bring poetry to read to your Black Prince.

          • seawolf77 December 3, 2014 at 9:01 am #

            I sure as hell have never had use for one. I’m sure you probably have one in bed with you now, or at the least a copy of “Police Magazine” for your viewing pleasure.

    • cornpone2014 December 2, 2014 at 4:03 pm #

      Mikey was a hip-hop punk-ass bully. And on that special day he did deserve to die; his way of living got him killed. The cop did exactly the right thing.

      As for cowards, my vote goes to those worthless apes that beat that poor man to death with hammers!

      • edward4432 December 2, 2014 at 5:36 pm #

        Hitting a police officer = death. Right. You my fellow Americans are ready and willing for a fascist takeover. You deserve all that that will bring.

  76. Cold N. Holefield December 2, 2014 at 5:46 pm #

    Is CFN offering “grief” counseling like the University of California Irvine to help us deal with the psychological impact of the Ferguson grand jury decision? It would be a nice gesture. I’ll take my on-the-house grief counseling session in the form of a nice bottle of Scotch, thank you.

    California school’s Ferguson ‘grief’ sessions blasted by former regent

  77. Pucker December 2, 2014 at 6:29 pm #

    Don’t buy into the racial harmony Utopia propaganda!

    Don’t drink the Kool Aid….


  78. Pucker December 2, 2014 at 9:56 pm #

    The US government obviously views the American people not as a demos to be “represented”, but rather as subjects to be manipulated.

    I wonder if degraded people with low IQs are more easily manipulated?

  79. Buck Stud December 2, 2014 at 10:33 pm #

    Up thread some of the posting has turned into a sort of tit for tit: ‘this black guy killed this white guy; this black person was murdered by so and so white guy’.

    Around and around it goes and on and on it will no doubt. The upshot for me: potential for deadly violence lurks behind far too many corners in this country. Thus, awareness of surroundings needs to be a very intentional mental discipline. Not unlike what Don Juan tried to teach Carlos Casteneda ( I know, many believe Casteneda was a fraud and yet a lesson is a lesson even if Casteneda received his lessons from the library and not in the desert under the tutelage of a Yaqui mystic/sorcerer).

    Personally, I can practice this type of disciplined awareness on a consistent basis, but I fear for the young folks more susceptible to advertising and products that severely compromise the senses. Just the other day I saw a television commercial in which the Cincinnati wide receiver A.J. Greene hops of of his car sporting some wireless headphones. He walks nonchalantly out into an area of the parking garage that a car could pass through all the while deaf (presumably, he’s jammin!) to a potentially ominous aural forewarning such as squealing brakes.

    Eyes buried into smart phones, ears tuned deaf, minds dumbed- down–we are so fucked!

    • malthuss December 3, 2014 at 1:03 pm #

      I actually knew a scholar [or wanna be] who knew Carlos at UCLA and implied CC was a fraud.

  80. Pucker December 2, 2014 at 10:41 pm #

    JHK wrote: “Next are the two idiots on The New York Times op-ed page: Nicholas Kristoff and Charles M. Blow. Kristoff, in his latest installment of racial self-mystification — When Whites Just Don’t Get It, Part 5 — proposes a “national commission” to study America’s race troubles.”

    What if the examples of unconscious, subtle systemic racism cited by Nicholas Kristof in his op-ed, such as the example of the picture of the white bloke holding a knife on a black bloke, are fake and are used to manipulate gullible people, like faith healings in evangelical churches?

  81. johngalt333 December 2, 2014 at 10:52 pm #

    Did anyone notice the action President Obama took yesterday after a review performed in response to Ferguson? Here they are:

    1. Creating a new task force to promote the expansion of 21st century community-oriented policing.

    2. Reforming how the federal government equips local law enforcement, particularly with military-style equipment.

    3. Advancing the use of body-worn cameras and promoting proven community policing initiatives.

    I support Obama’s action for reform. At least Obama is not promoting fear or casting blame. He is proposing positive solutions that will benefit both police and citizens.

  82. Karah December 2, 2014 at 11:22 pm #

    I checked the census for info on black poverty and highest concentration and its nowhere near ferguson, mo.
    in mo the highest concentration of poor blacks is in one, Jackson, county.

    then i checked for other counties like jackson and one or two pop up in the well known cities like chicago, cleveland, oakland, etc. but the majority of poor black counties hang around the mid section of the usa like a belt. you have entire states overflowing with poor black communities nowhere near st. louis, mo.

    now, i have to ask myself…if the blacks involved in the recent shootins are not poor and from well off families…why are they being targeted and not those in the black belt of america?

    i think the answer is st. louis cty has a long history of open segregation and whenever black youth assert their rights due to inexperience and foolishnes and naivete, they are put in their place in a vicious way.

    • Pucker December 2, 2014 at 11:42 pm #

      Karah, For some reason, your mind does not seem to be functioning properly.

      You might want to start over again by identifying the specific premises through which you reach your conclusion that that the “blacks involved in the recent shootins…are…being targeted”?

      Conclusions must follow logically from the premises. Thanks.

      • Pucker December 3, 2014 at 12:16 am #

        If the “blacks involved in the recent shootins” are being shot, it may be because they are committing crimes and otherwise engaging in conduct which is likely to result in them being shot rather than because they are being “targeted” by police?

        • Pucker December 3, 2014 at 12:22 am #

          The blacks might be better off in identifying the problem not so much as “White Racism” and “White Privilege”, but rather as generalized police tactics such as “Stop and Frisk”? They may be better off protesting the police state tactic of “Stop and Frisk” rather than clamouring for the lynching of Officer Wilson because he justifiably shot Michael Brown in that particular instance?

          • Pucker December 3, 2014 at 12:58 am #

            The American people generally may be too stupid to grasp the Constitutional problems inherent in the police policy of “Stop and Frisk”? American stupidity may guarantee that every problem involving black people is a problem of “racism”? Most Americans may not even know about “Stop and Frisk”, or the 4th and 5th amendments of the US Constitution?

        • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 1:15 am #

          No! Blacks are perfect. If they seem otherwise, it’s just your racism that is making you see that. If you are mugged by Blacks, consider it a test of your Faith. Or perhaps you deserved it as a punishment for your White Privilege. You mustn’t judge them – except positively. Anything else is otherizing – and that should only be done to other Whites. Get it, other Whites!


      • Karah December 3, 2014 at 5:42 am #

        the complaint isn’t about the cops doing their jobs, it’s the way they are doing it, quite harshly and heavily on the “black n brown” community.

        i have no doubt that officers and wanna be security officers have reasons for stopping black people. what’s in question is how they are going about stopping people and correcting the misbehavior.

        why shoot? why not mace or tazer? why didn’t the guy in florida follow directions when the cops told him to stay where he was and not approach the kid?

        why did a cop shoot a boy with a toy gun in a crowded place?

        i come to the conclusion in my mind that some things are like oil and water and will never mix. there are vast swaths of citizens of America that have a great disdain for authority figures of every stripe no matter what their color.

      • Karah December 3, 2014 at 5:49 am #

        why would a guy who’s not poor be robbing stores?

        why would a kid who is not poor be walking down the streets at night instead of borrowing his dads car?

        why would black kids with toy guns be more dangerous than white kids with toy guns?

        what makes wealthier black kids more dangerous than poor black kids?

        why aren’t we seeing situations like the one in ferguson more often in the black ghettos of America? Is it just a matter of time?

  83. Pucker December 3, 2014 at 1:54 am #

    This Sunday, December 7th, I’m going to watch a DVD of the classic movie “Tora! Tora! Tora!”. The acting in the movie is abysmal, but the attack action scenes are quite good.

    I may even go over to the local Chinese hobby shop and buy some miniature plastic WWII Japanese model fighter planes (Zeros) and torpedo planes to play with as I watch the movie while my Taiwanese massage chair massages my testicles.

  84. Pucker December 3, 2014 at 3:29 am #

    Sunday, December 7, 1941 got the whole Thang roll’n Baby!

  85. Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 6:20 am #

    Black kid drop kicks a Hispanic woman holding a baby – just to get her cellphone. Hispanic woman refuses to accept his apology after he got caught. Refreshing. A White woman would not only accept but probably make excuses for him and fund his “college” education.

    Hispanics have no illusions about what Blacks are. God help the Blacks once the Hispanics attain power.


    • malthuss December 3, 2014 at 1:07 pm #

      ‘ A White woman would not only accept but probably make excuses for him and fund his “college” education.’

      So White women have no common sense? Just Christian forgiveness to offer?
      How many White wimmen have you spoken to lately?

  86. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 6:27 am #

    Up thread some of the posting has turned into a sort of tit for tit: ‘this black guy killed this white guy; this black person was murdered by so and so white guy’.

    Buck, I don’t think you’re grasping Marlin’s point. It’s not Marlin who wants the tit for tat, he’s merely pointing out the bias and contradictory behavior of the agenda-driven press (redundant term, I know). He’s correct about the local news — in most locales almost the entirety of the news coverage is concerning violence, whether it be murder or rape, where the perpetrators are mostly colored people, be they black or brown. Unlike the national news, the only agenda that seems to be in place is to make anyone watching feel insecure and horrible about the world in which we live, and then, magically, they flip a switch for the official designated holidays like Thanksgiving and imply we should all be thankful. If you’re one of their devoted viewers and your life is so small the local news comprises the highlight of the day, what exactly are you supposed to be thankful for considering the nature of their coverage?

    As for the national news, anytime they cover local violence, there is a larger, more specific narrative at play, and that narrative is always, and I mean always, race relations, and more specifically how Blacks are forever the victims in perpetuity. The stories they choose to exploit for this agenda-driven purpose never fit quite right as we’ve seen with both the Zimmerman-Martin and Wilson-Brown spectacles. With the Zimmerman-Martin spectacle, they turned Zimmerman, obviously a brown Hispanic, into a White. He isn’t White, at least according to the color of his skin, but that basic fact didn’t seem to get in the way of the flawed and disingenuous narrative. And by the way, if the more intellectual argument is that Zimmerman may not have white skin but was raised by White parents in a White culture, well, the same holds true for the esteemed president — he’s not Black, he’s White because he was raised by White people in a White culture and he’s pretending to be Black.

    Everything you say about reforming policing in America is worthy and should be considered, but it has nothing to do with the Wilson-Brown spectacle. The appropriate venue for such a national discussion is Chicago or Newark, and not Ferguson, but we’re all intelligent enough here to know why it is not Chicago or Newark and will never be Chicago or Newark. But it should be — and what would be even more daring and noble is if our esteemed president spent an entire evening unannounced and unidentified on the streets of South Chicago or Newark without any protection from his entourage, and then the day after, if he’s still breathing and hasn’t been shot to death or beaten to a bloody pulp with claw hammers, smugly tell Americans, and the world, about race relations in America. Then and only then will he have any credibility.

    • Buck Stud December 3, 2014 at 1:16 pm #


      Up the thread Malthuss and others were citing other black on white crimes along with Marlin, hence my comment. And I believe I mentioned that I also see that some news stories are swept under the rug.

      I’m not sure if the narrative should be” how Blacks are forever the victims in perpetuity” as much as how the lingering aftereffects of institutional racism/oppression over centuries are supposed to simply vanish after five or six decades. After all, a common thread that runs through just about any successful winning team or organization is “tradition” and lineage” and the ‘culture of success’: The ‘glorious winning tradition of Notre Dame, West Point’ etc,etc,etc.

      So on one hand, an entire historically subjugated/oppressed ethnic group is supposed to just ‘shake it off’ on one hand, while, on the other, “lineage and tradition is rightfully recognized as a potent force in ‘success begetting success’.

      As far as ‘having credibility’ in terms of discussing race who really has any? After all, that requires wading into the deep recesses of the most demonic aspects of the human psyche or as the lyrics in one song so succinctly put it:

      “A peaceful place or so it looks from space, a closer look reveals the human race”

      • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:00 pm #

        So in other words, since Race, Culture, Tradition, and Success are the enemies that keep people down. So naturally these have to go one way or another – and then the Raceless, Cultureless, Loser Mongrels will live in peace and plenty supplied by the Government. Only then, after the Revolution that sweeps these things away. This is hardcore Leftism – the philosophy of Marat-Sade, Robiespierre, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao, Pol Pot, Jim Jones, Pam Africa, etc.

        You stand condemned by your own words. People are either willing and able to fit in or they aren’t. They can’t demand that we change for them. Nor can they demand centuries and the creation of an Anti-Tradition of trans-generational victimization. So you aren’t against traditions after all – only natural, healthy ones.

  87. FincaInTheMountains December 3, 2014 at 6:56 am #

    US are preparing Ukraine for war with Russia

    Ukraine, most likely, will not be included in NATO (in order for countries of NATO to formally stay away from armed conflict with Russia). However, the absence of NATO membership does not prevent arming the country and build military bases, as evidenced by the example of the Middle East, where the US has military bases and finances, trains and manages the radical Islamists.

    The US has an incredibly large arsenal of weapons and equipment from Iraq and Afghanistan after 10 years of military campaign. Arsenal is so huge that it has nowhere to go. The supply of arms to be predominantly (80-90%) come from weapons (formerly in use), which were involved in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Arms shipments will begin (presumably) after March of 2015 after the integration of the CIA headquarters in Ukraine and all law enforcement agencies in Ukraine are subordinated under the military command. Until now, the supply of weapons was halted because of the fear of the Pentagon, the CIA and the administration in Washington that the weapons will go to Novorossia army because of corrupt Kiev management. Primary integration of CIA headquarters is usually occurs during the first year (plus or minus a few months). Point of reference is February 2014, so that by March 2015 the process should be completed.

    US strategic military complex can be deployed before the end of 2015. Not a full military base, but fortified structure, which will be training Ukrainian nationalists for war with Russia.

    Brainwashing through the media will only increase. The continuation of the military conflict in the Donbass is advantageous to US and Kiev. For junta it gives a cover story to write off the economic collapse, and for the US war is needed to provoke and catalyze the growth of radical nationalism in Ukraine. The war will fuel aggression and anger in society. In this respect, cynical bombings of schools, hospitals and kindergartens will continue. The more picture is terrible, the better for the junta and the United States.

    For the US, it is essential to maintain Ukraine in a state of economic collapse and social disaster. Well-fed and happy do not go to war. Brainwashed , hungry, angry, aggressive and resentful are needed for war effort. Ukraine is being transformed to Somalia in economic terms, and to Afghanistan, as a hotbed of tension and terror.
    Presumably, at the beginning in 2016 there will be about 500-600 thousand Ukrainians radicals under arms, ready to kill the Russians. Radicals brainwashed and under influence of drugs (the kind that suppresses the will, instinct of self-preservation and increase aggression).

    By May of 2016 an attack on the Crimea and large-scale war between Russia and Ukraine is possible. Now Ukraine has only 50 thousand untrained half-fighters with outdated weapons without a clear command against having in nearest future about 500 thousand well-trained radical terrorists at the US military base with modern weapons and under command of the Pentagon.


    • Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 2:02 pm #

      By May of 2016 an attack on [the] Crimea and large-scale war between Russia and Ukraine is possible.


      Just as [the] Ukraine is incorrect, so is [the] Crimea. It’s just plain old Crimea.

      • FincaInTheMountains December 3, 2014 at 5:09 pm #

        Thank you, Shtik, keep it up.

  88. ramonrivero493 December 3, 2014 at 8:34 am #

    Fergusons in Perpetuity (by Fred Reed)
    Thoughts on the Unfixable
    November 27, 2014
    Two questions, methinks, arise from Ferguson’s latest outburst. The first, political, is “Why does the country tolerate it?” The second, more anthropologically interesting, is “Why the eerie incapacity of underclass blacks to understand evidence, or law, or much of anything?” Of the countless explanations given for the poor performance and poor behavior of blacks in the US, one of them dares not speak its name: Low intelligence.
    Yet it fits all the evidence. It explains why Africa never built cities, why it did not invent writing, why there was no African Fifth-Century Athens. It explains why Rhodesia, prosperous and an exporter of food when run by whites, fell immediately into hunger and barbarism when whites left. It explains the dysfunction of black societies from Africa to Haiti to Detroit. It explains why blacks invariably score far below whites and Asians on tests of IQ, on the SATs, GREs, on entrance and promotion exams for fire and police departments.
    It explains the need for affirmative action and for departments of Black Studies in universities when black students can’t handle real courses. It explains why the gap in academic achievement never closes. It explains the criminality, the violence, the poor impulse control, the dependency on welfare, the unemployment, and the inability to integrate themselves into a high-tech society. It explains the constant scandals involving teachers in black schools giving students the answers on standardized tests.
    Further, it explains why none of the programs intended to raise performance of blacks in the schools ever work. Head Start didn’t work. Integrated schools didn’t work, nor segregated schools, nor black schools with white teachers nor black schools with black teachers. Expensive laboratories and free computers didn’t work. Schools run entirely by blacks with very high per-student expenditure (Washington, DC for example) didn’t work. There is no indication that anything at all will ever work. Low intelligence is the obvious explanation. There is precious little counterevidence.
    Endless evasions seek to avoid the unavoidable. Tests are biased, all tests without exception. Africa is primitive because of colonialism, or for geographic reasons, or because the natives liked hunting and gathering. Detroit is largely illiterate because of slavery, or low self-esteem, or institutional racism, which seems to mean undetectable racism. On and on.
    If the consequences didn’t affect others, it would be needless, even cruel, to mention cognitive deficits. But they do affect society, very damagingly. They result in the enstuipidation of schools to which the bright go, and cripple the high-end brains upon which the prosperity of the United States depends. They result in Fergusons.
    Among people who study intelligence, the racial disparity is not debated. It is evident, accepted. I suspect that it is evident also to many thoughtful liberals who fear the question: If we admit the obvious, what now? And would they be invited to any more cocktail parties of the politically correct?
    And so, if psychometrists state the truth publicly, they are shouted down and said to be racists, bigots, and “pseudo-scientists.” They are not. Rather they are highly intelligent and competent statisticians, far more aware than the public of possible sources of error. The achievements of blacks closely fit the predictions that come out of psychometrics.
    These scholars are worth reading. Try Social consequences of group differences in cognitive ability, by Linda Gottfredson of the University of Delaware, long but comprehensive. Daniel Seligman is short and clear.
    Unfortunately, understanding their writings (should one want to) requires some faint memory of eighth-grade algebra, such as what a curve means, and some mathematics barely beyond arithmetic. This eliminates most of those who dispute the evidence.
    A glance at the data reveals that there will be a small number of very smart blacks and a larger number of fairly smart blacks. This we see. They are engineers and lprogrammers. They appear on television as well-educated talking-heads speaking good English. To whites who never see any other blacks, this gives the impression that, since these blacks are like white people, all would be if it weren’t for discrimination. Would that it were so. It isn’t.
    What are the implications?
    First, we will see a continuation of hostility by blacks toward whites. This often amounts to outright hatred, as seen in the intermittent riots that never cease, and in the frequent, though carefully under-reported, racial attacks on whites. If blacks cannot rise, and it seems they cannot, they will remain angry in perpetuity. Then what?
    If you believe the hostiility does not exist, or is not intense, read rap lyrics. Many examples could be adduced. Here is one:
    “Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long … the white man is the devil … the CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I’m recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant … let’s go and kill some rednecks … Menace Clan ain’t afraid … I got the .380; the homies think I’m crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said: kill whitey all night long … a nigga dumping on your white ass; fuck this rap shit, nigga, I’m gonna blast … I beat a white boy to the motherfucking ground….””
    (“Kill Whitey”; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of what was called Thorn EMI and now is called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)
    Not encouraging.
    Second, things will get—are getting—worse. First-world countries are brain-intensive. Automation eats rapidly away at the low-end jobs for which blacks are usually qualified. So do Mexicans. In a technological society, people at the bottom at some point become economically unnecessary, unemployable for anything at any wage. This happens now to blacks, and soon will to unintelligent whites. The unnecessary will need, do need, to be kept in custodial care, however disguised. The alternative is starvation.
    Third, serious conflict is likely between blacks and Hispanics. There is no love between the two. Today when Latinos move into a neighborhood, they tend to drive blacks out. They are brighter and work harder. For the moment blacks hold the political upper-hand, but Latinos grow in number and in their proportion of voters. A train-wreck is on the way.
    Fourth, the danger will grow of serious conflict between whites and blacks. I suspect that even now only heavy federal pressure and dissimulation by the media keep the cork in the bottle. Among whites a large proportion loathe affirmative action, degraded educational standards, toleration of crime, and compulsory integration.
    As the economy declines and jobs become scarcer, the likelihood grows that jobless whites will rebel against racial preferences. The hidden rock in the current is that if affirmative action were eliminated, blacks would almost disappear except in sports and entertainment. There will be hell to pay, though in what currency is not clear.
    What in god’s name to do?
    Arguably the best we can do is to continue as now, regard affirmative action as a tax on efficiency, tolerate the racial attacks as preferable to the riots that would follow on not tolerating them, and clean up after the riots that happen anyway. Temporize, hold the lid on, and let other people worry about it later. This is certainly the course that the feds and the major media will advocate. The question is whether they can make it stick.
    Another approach, conceivable but barely so, is quietly to institute segregation in the more combustible areas of society. One of these is law-enforcement. If none but black policemen worked in black regions, fewer cities would burn. The schools are another sensitive spot. If segregated schools were allowed, and blacks given more money per student than whites to avoid complaints about unequal resources, each race could teach its young, or not teach them, as it saw fit. Finally, letting people live where they like would reduce friction. These measures, though stop-gaps, might work, for a while.
    The third—“solution” isn’t exactly the word, but maybe “possibility” fits—is carefully called “civil unrest” when what is meant is “race war.” Black extremists have often called for it, thoughtful blacks have worried about it, and a lot of whites think “bring it on.” (Read Black Mobs and the Coming Race War, a column by Thomas Sowell. Also The Coming Race War in America, a bookd by the (deceased) black columnist Carl Rowan.)
    The big media outlets have little idea of what is going on. Their reporters live in a bubble of political correctness, policing each other stringently, and have little contact with the black underclass or with America outside the Beltway. Books (e.g. Face to Face with Race) detail the underclass, but few read them.)
    Such a race “war” would be a spontaneous and simultaneous, though uncoordinated, burning of many cities. Blacks would quickly lose. Whites are much more numerous, food comes not from Safeway but from remote farms belonging to whites, welfare checks do not materialize magically in post-offfice boxes, and so on. The danger is that blacks, accustomed to intimidating whites, may push too far and find that they have made a very serious mistake.
    Afterward, what? Blacks as Palestinians and whites as Israelis? The country would never recover.

    • BackRowHeckler December 3, 2014 at 9:31 am #


      There it is, all laid out.

      • Buck Stud December 3, 2014 at 10:46 am #

        So it basically boils down to low intelligence and unalterable genetics?

        But what if that isn’t the case or doesn’t prove true, that if you really do ‘believe it you can conceive it’ ? For instance, epigenetics:

        ‘ Epigenetics is defined as the study of changes in gene expression caused by mechanisms other than changes in the underlying DNA structure. In other words, it is possible that environmental factors can alter the way our genes are expressed, making even identical twins look dramatically different. ”


        The /ChineseTaoists intuitively understood and methodologically guided their training along this line: I, Li, Chi or Mind->Body-> Energetic manifestation. They believe the body can elevate the mind and reciprocally, the mind elevate the body: ‘Mind Leading Body, Body Following Mind to a less intentional and more spontaneous circuit integration of Body Leading Mind, Mind Following Body. The ancient Greeks followed a similar dictum.

        The worst think any person could do is believe they are doomed by genetics/IQ because then the pathways for transformation–perhaps on levels that science does not yet recognize–are frozen and ossified by disbelief. Ironically, this leads back to the ‘power of faith’ etc.

        On the other hand if the cause of crime is low intelligence as cited by the Reeds and Janos types–and you as well apparently–then traditional punishment is an unjust practice because one would be punishing a person for an influence beyond their control–genetics. As Socrates famously argued, justice is ‘to make better’ and how is throwing a criminal in jail as a result of low intelligence ‘making them better’?

        At the end of the day you and your type have to answer these questions or modify your belief systems because you can’t have it both ways, ethically speaking. Or just admit your agenda for what it is:Hate and Fear driven.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:09 pm #

          If your cat jumps on a hot stove, he’ll never do it again. Even the low men understand pain. That may well be all they will ever understand. Thus the need for public executions to bring home the reality of retribution to primitive minds. To expect reform is to expect too much, though of course it is to be desired and worked for if the individual seems sincere. Thus the existence of prison ministries of all kinds – even Odinism for Whites.

          Your mind is just more of the body like the foam of beer. An epiphenomenon. This is not the Taoist point of view in case you care. I grant you that the Taoist understanding has been watered down in Chinese medicine and martial arts though. The Chinese are a very materialistic people on the whole, and have been for a long time. So your error is not yours alone.

  89. seawolf77 December 3, 2014 at 9:37 am #

    The bottom line is that bankers, the Venetians, are famous for playing one side off another. In fact it has become a management style vis-à-vis Jack Welch at GE. They played us like a fiddle and got us to kill each other in droves in the Civil War. They’re doing it again, specifically by working that muscle that conservatives have in spades, the I’m better than you muscle. We need to identify our real enemy, and stop being led by the nose to the enemies they create.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:10 pm #

      You mean the Black Nobility? The Jews are the biggest players, but yes, there are other groups.

  90. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 12:17 pm #

    Where do Hispanics rank on Fred’s intelligence scale? A notch, barely, above Blacks? How about the Chinese and the Asian Indians? The Indians and the Chinese are whipping White ass academically, at least in America, yet they’re not very creative in comparison. They’re excellent at mimicry and regurgitation, though. Have China and India landed a man on the moon? I don’t think so, yet the intelligence tests tell us they’re more intelligent than Whites, so what gives? FYI, African Blacks who have not yet been tainted by American Black culture, or American culture in general, excel academically — every bit as successfully as Indians and Chinese, but if they reside in America long enough and they came early in their development, that pernicious American Black culture will inevitably grab a hold of them much to the chagrin of their concerned parents who tried so desperately to give them every opportunity.

    • Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 12:37 pm #

      FYI, African Blacks who have not yet been tainted by American Black culture, or American culture in general, excel academically – Cold


      This^ statement does not *jive* with what Janos has been telling us for lo these many years.

      • malthuss December 3, 2014 at 12:54 pm #

        Its ‘Jibe’ unless you jive was a pun.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:16 pm #

      Hispanics average about 90. East Asians are in the low 100s. East Indians are surprisingly dumb at 85 – but there is tremendous ethnic diversity in India. Obviously the crème de la crème, the brightest of the bright groups have come to the West. Ditto Black Africans. And btw, in America they get business loans Whites don’t get as do East and South Asians.

      And again, what’s a Hispanic? That’s a geo-culture. Fred wont admit it, but the Mestizos, Mulattoes, and Zambos didn’t build modern Latin America to the extent it exists. That was planned, built, and funded by White Hispanics. The mixed breeds just did the grunt work.

      • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 8:27 pm #

        You just never stop, do you? Only white people are civilized and have built up monuments to culture like the homicidal dictatorships of Latin America!

        And everyone not white is beneath you and is just a grunt.

        And you think liberals are self-righteous!

        Now it’s not just Negroes who haven’t done anything of value, it’s the entire indigenous population of Latin America!!!

    • malthuss December 3, 2014 at 9:18 pm #

      Bill Gates looks for employees in China but there are four ? times as many people there than in USA. Hence more chances to find IQ 140 and above.

      Also many Chinese are poor, submissive and desperate.

      India may be the first country with TWO Billion people. When I see more Indians [call center not casino / dot not feather] here its like
      ‘we have opened the floodgate’ byebye USA.

  91. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 12:37 pm #

    They’re doing it again, specifically by working that muscle that conservatives have in spades, the I’m better than you muscle.

    According to the bevy of allegations, Bill Cosby’s been working that muscle — the pudding pop muscle.

    So much so, I’m beginning to wonder if I was raped by him. Anyone else feel the same way?

  92. Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 12:42 pm #

    Where do Hispanics rank on Fred’s intelligence scale? – Cold


    If you have read his many blogs on this exact question you would know that he has had high praise for them…at least for the Mexicans in Mexico where he lives.

  93. GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 12:49 pm #

    This is one of the most disturbing discussions I have seen at this site. So much old ground. No wonder we keep having to fight the same old fights in this country.

    It does not bode well for the world, made by hand or otherwise.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:21 pm #

      Did you read the novels? The Christian group that helped restore order to Unionville was heavily armed and full of military veterans. They fled the South and Pennsylvania because of racial strife.

      Mr Kunstler addresses Black Nihilism (MLK’s phrase) for several pages at the end of his book “The Long Emergency”. His conclusion? It will not be tolerated during the Long Emergency.

      • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 8:41 pm #

        No I haven’t, but I’m not interested in undefined Christian groups or what exactly is meant by “Black Nihilism.” Unless of course it sits beside “White Nihilism.”

        I only read the blog, and from it I cannot imagine that JHK is as ahistorical as what I have seen you say.

        Though as I said, today’s more-than-hint of racism disturbed me greatly.

        Though I’d rather let JHK speak for himself than rely on your representation of him.

        Finally, also disturbing was JHK’s apparent rejection of the fact, really, that prosecutors et al. manipulate evidence, that laws are also selectively enforced, and this means innocent people are put in jail.

        But to say that people with no power are the only ones responsible for all the terrible things that happen, and that a “Negro” has apparently never accomplished anything, is intolerable to me.

      • malthuss December 4, 2014 at 1:40 am #

        What about a ‘Black Swan’? In the form of a Black President?
        [Not that Obama is Black but thats beyond the grasp of many].

        How does a BS change JHK predictions?

  94. malthuss December 3, 2014 at 1:12 pm #

    How much longer can the USA frack its way thru happy motoring?
    What of [whats left of] our economy?
    How cheap will oil get and what does that mean for the USA?

    • BackRowHeckler December 3, 2014 at 1:35 pm #

      Much in the news about oil of late, Malthus.

      Last night Charley Rose interviewed Daniel Yergin, the media’s go to guy having anything to do with petroleum. Yergin’s message was positive; low prices were here to stay, and fracked American oil has changed the equation.

      Today I saw an article that many contracts for new wells in NDakota are being cancelled; last night on NBR there was a story that people in Williston are worried the oil boom is coming to an end in their part of the world. I’ve also seen worries about the effect of low oil prices on the Middle East, Russia and Venezuela.

      Apparently, almost overnight, big SUVs and pickup trucks are selling well again.

      When it comes to oil it seems like too much, not enough, cheap, expensive, whatever, its all a problem.


  95. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 1:13 pm #

    If you have read his many blogs on this exact question you would know that he has had high praise for them…at least for the Mexicans in Mexico where he lives.

    I haven’t read his many blogs, that’s why I asked.

    I have high praise for my pet dog, but that doesn’t say anything about my dog’s intelligence.

    Is the implication of your recounting of his sentiment towards Hispanics that they are as equally intelligent as Whites? If so, how does that account for the fact that Mexico is a corrupt cesspool? How does it account for the fact that Mexicans have been relegated to permanent janitorial status — on average of course? The same holds true for any South American country. The majority of Latin American and South American countries are barely civilized, and that “barely” loose grip on civilization is slipping fast.

    • Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 1:21 pm #

      I will not try to paraphrase Fred’s many excellent blog posts…in his own way he’s as excellent a writer as JHK. If you don’t have the link I would just Google “Fred Reed blog.”

  96. Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 1:14 pm #

    So it basically boils down to low intelligence and unalterable genetics? – Buck


    Yes, except that “unalterable” is probably too strong a word. I suspect genetics is/are alterable but only over a verrrry long time period. Certainly, you and I won’t notice any improvement in our lifetimes nor, alas, our grandchildren’s lifetimes. And who’s to say the genetics would improve? Why not get worse?

    ramonrivero493 has written THE manifesto on the anti-political correctness side of the issue.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:25 pm #

      Individuals vary. Those with favorable variations pass on more of their genes than others. Thus over time, groups of such individuals come to vary in accordance with the environment and the values of the group. If they value intelligence, then that will be selected for. If not, then not.

      • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 8:42 pm #

        And of course, you would also tell us that Negroes do not value intelligence.

        This group thing is really hateful.

  97. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 1:19 pm #

    This^ statement does not *jive* with what Janos has been telling us for lo these many years.

    Fancy that. Janos hasn’t been teaching an international contingent of children from ages 2-7 years of age, has he? I know someone who does, in fact many who do, and this is their confident and measured objective observation.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:32 pm #

      Buck’s point about epigenetics is interesting and valid. I don’t know much about it though I have heard the term before. In my own defense though – and that of the Eugenicists in general – we have never denied the importance of environment or nurture for the full unfolding of innate potential. Cassandra brought this point up earlier in the week.

      You can’t make a silk purse out of sow’s ear. You can’t unfold what’s not there. Negroes are Negroes and will be until the slow process of Evolution makes them something different. As Arthur Jenson said in his famous article: Nothing can be done for Black Children that will make them equal to Whites. Wisdom would dictate vocational training as Booker T Washington concluded. If we got rid of the Mexicans, we could use Blacks out in the fields again since the factories are gone……

      • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 8:47 pm #

        How utterly inhuman.

        “A sow’s ear.”

        And people wonder how the Nazis did what they did.

        Can’t wait to see the word “vermin” in your upcoming screed.

        The thing is, most of this bilge was dumped overboard a hundred years ago.

  98. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 1:22 pm #

    ramonrivero493 has written THE manifesto on the anti-political correctness side of the issue.

    He’s written nothing — he’s copied and pasted Fred Reed’s words without providing a proper link, unless ramonrivero493 is Fred Reed. If he is, why not just indicate it?

    • Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 3:21 pm #

      Sorry, I didn’t notice it was directly from Fred. Should’ve known some newbie commenter wouldn’t just come along with a gem like that.

  99. seawolf77 December 3, 2014 at 1:44 pm #

    It’s not even a dangerous job. I am so sick of hearing about how police risk their lives everyday to protect me. There are not even in the top 10, and most die in traffic accidents, not in shootouts with the bad guys. Construction workers have a higher rick of death. So do firemen, pilots, fishermen and even garbage men for Pete’s sake. And now we’re giving them tanks. Are there more Waco’s around the corner?

    • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:36 pm #

      I actually agree. They get paid great money to take the risk – and they don’t want to anymore. They want to shoot first and ask questions later.

      After the White public defended Darrin Wilson so strongly, the St Louis Chief said that there was no racial bias in the death of the Bosnian immigrant beaten to death with hammers. He also assured us that he wasn’t killed for being Bosnian. Ridiculous.

    • Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 2:50 pm #

      a higher [rick] of death.


      rick, hahahah

  100. Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 2:45 pm #

    You know it was wrong to annihilate the Indians so you compensate by going even further to the right. – Seawolf77


    I’ve already built a couple of pyramids and now I’m researching (the idea having been suggested by Cold N. Holefield) building a replica of the Gateway Arch (a far more complicated task, BTW, than a pyramid). You know, that arch in St. Louis not too far from Ferguson?

    My point?, you ask. The Gateway Arch faces almost due West and the complex includes a museum dedicated to and memorializing our countries “western expansion” under the blessing of “manifest destiny.” And what a marvel of engineering it is. The building of the Arch began around 1965. Just think about that. As recently as 1965 when we were passing civil rights law, we were patting ourselves on the back for expanding into the west…….which is a euphemism for annihilating the Indians and taking their land fair and square.

    The terrible truth, so hard for liberals to admit, is that this is how ALL lands become occupied. The strong march in and take it from the weak. Might makes right.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:51 pm #

      But first, right makes might. Christianity united us and made us morally superior – thus making for military might.

      This is why the Elite came to favor Monotheism over Polytheism. Get everyone on the same page.

      • seawolf77 December 4, 2014 at 1:35 pm #

        Moral superiority is an oxymoron.

    • Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 3:00 pm #


  101. Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 2:48 pm #

    Arab has it right: Officer Krupke, you’ve done it again. This boy don’t need a job, he needs a year in the pen. It aint just a question of misunderstood. Deep down inside him, he’s no good.

    TIGER (spoken)
    (imitating Officer Krupke)
    Hey, you!

    RIFF (spoken)
    Me, Officer Krupke?

    TIGER (spoken)
    (as Krupke)
    Yeah, you! Gimme one good reason
    For not draggin’ ya down to the
    Stationhouse, ya punk.

    RIFF (sings)
    Dear kindly Sergeant Krupke,
    Ya gotta understand–
    It’s just our bringin’ upke
    That gets us outta hand.
    Our mothers all are junkies,
    Our fathers all are drunks.
    Golly Moses — natcherly we’re punks.

    Gee, Officer Krupke, we’re very upset;
    We never had the love that every
    Child oughta get.
    We ain’t no delinquents,
    We’re misunderstood.
    Deep down inside us there is good!

    There is good!

    There is good, there is good,
    There is untapped good.
    Like inside, the worse of us is good.

    TIGER (imitating Krupke)
    That’s a touchin’ good story.

    Lemme tell it to the world!

    TIGER (imitating Krupke)
    Just tell it to the Judge.

    RIFF (**to Snowboy)
    Dear kindly Judge, your Honor,
    My parents treat me rough.
    With all their marijuana,
    They won’t give me a puff.
    They didn’t wanna have me,
    But somehow I was had.
    Leapin’ lizards –that’s what I’m so bad!

    SNOWBOY (imitating a Judge)
    Officer Krupke, you’re really a square;
    This boy don’t need a judge, he
    Needs a analysis’s care!
    It’s just his neurosis that oughta be curbed–
    **He’s psychologically disturbed.

    I’m disturbed!

    We’re disturbed, we’re disturbed,
    We’re the most disturbed,
    Like we’re psychologically disturbed.

    SNOWBOY (still acting part of Judge)(spoken)
    Hear ye, Her ye! In the opinion
    Of this court, this child is
    Depraved on account he ain’t had a normal home.

    RIFF (spoken)
    Hey, I’m depraved on account I’m deprived!

    SNOWBOY (as judge – spoken)
    So take him to a headshrinker.

    RIFF (to Action)(sings)
    My Daddy beats my Mommy,
    My Mommy clobbers me,
    My Grandpa is a Commie,
    My Grandma pushes tea.
    My sister wears a mustache,
    My brother wears a dress.
    Goodness Gracious, that’s why I’m a mess!

    ACTION (as psychiatrist)
    Officer Krupke, he shouldn’t be here.
    This boy don’t need a couch, he needs
    A useful career.
    Society’s played him a terrible trick,
    And sociologically he’s sick!

    I am sick!

    We are sick, we are sick,
    We are sick sick sick
    Like we’re sociologically sick!

    ACTION (speaks as psychiatrist)
    In my opinion, this child does not need
    To have his head shrunk at all.
    Juvenile delinquency is purely a
    Social disease.

    RIFF (spoken)
    Hey, I got a social disease!

    ACTION (spoken as psychiatrist)
    So take him to a social worker!

    RIFF (to ARAB)(sings)
    Dear kindly social worker,
    They tell me get a job,
    Like be a soda-jerker,
    Which means like be a slob.
    It’s not I’m anti-social,
    I’m only anti-work.
    Gloryosky, that’s why I’m a jerk!

    ARAB (as social worker)
    Officer Krupke, you’ve done it again.
    This boy don’t need a job, he needs a
    Year in the pen.
    It ain’t just a question of misunderstood;
    Deep down inside him, he’s no good!

    I’m no good!

    We’re no good, we’re no good,
    We’re no earthly good,
    Like the best of us is no damn good!

    The trouble is he’s lazy.

    The trouble is he drinks

    The trouble is he’s crazy.

    The trouble is he stinks,

    The trouble is he’s growing.

    The trouble is he’s grown!

    Krupke, we got troubles of our own!
    Gee, Officer Krupke,
    We’re down on our knees.
    ‘Cause no one wants a fella with
    A social disease.
    Gee, Officer Krupke,
    What are we to do?
    Gee, Officer Krupke —
    Krup you!

    Music by Leonard Bernstein, lyrics by Stephen Sondheim.
    © 1956, 1957 Amberson Holdings LLC and Stephen Sondheim. Copyright renewed.
    Leonard Bernstein Music Publishing Company LLC, Publisher.

    Buy the Gee Officer Krupke vocal selections online! price: $4.25

    Click here to purchase the West Side Story Vocal Score
    Leonard Bernstein Music Publishing Company / Boosey & Hawkes

    • GutenbergGuy December 3, 2014 at 9:12 pm #

      In the movie version Natalie Wood played a Puerto Rican!!

      Not sure what else to say. It’s very dated, that’s all.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 1:15 am #

        Right. And everything old is false and bad, right Gute? That’s why you named yourself after an old book of lies.

    • malthuss December 4, 2014 at 1:45 am #

      Bernstein, a gay [closeted] Jewish man.

  102. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 2:54 pm #

    the St Louis Chief said that there was no racial bias in the death of the Bosnian immigrant beaten to death with hammers. He also assured us that he wasn’t killed for being Bosnian. Ridiculous.

    If there was racial bias, what was it? The reason I ask is because more than likely this poor Bosnian fella was Muslim, and if so, he is not White. Muslims are not White, don’t you know? So if it was a racially-charged beating of a Muslim, perhaps the colored perpetrators were doing their patriotic duty in killing Muslims considering the IS factor.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 3:07 pm #

      They wouldn’t know a Bosnian from a hole in the wall. He was White and they hated him. You know this but are just being a contrarian because you don’t like race messing up your Libertarian pipe dreams.

      Right. Mix all the colors to make mud and then praise the rainbow of different shades of mud. You make a desert and call it peace. You would open a hot dog stand on top of Q’s pyramid.

  103. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 2:58 pm #

    As Arthur Jenson said in his famous article: Nothing can be done for Black Children that will make them equal to Whites.

    There is one thing — mix them all up until there are no more Whites, Blacks, Browns, Yellows or Reds. Then equality will reign. As if equality would ever reign.

    • cornpone2014 December 3, 2014 at 5:40 pm #

      Hey CNH,

      Groovy plan. Let’s start with your daughters!

  104. Janos Skorenzy December 3, 2014 at 3:04 pm #

    The Officer who choked the big fat Black guy in New York to death gets off. I think this was a clear case of police brutality so the media wont make as big a deal about it.

    • cornpone2014 December 3, 2014 at 5:42 pm #

      Uh huh. Cops are mostly bullies with badges.

  105. pkrugman December 3, 2014 at 3:06 pm #


    A grand jury voted Wednesday not to indict New York City police officer Daniel Pantaleo in the death of Eric Garner, multiple sources confirm.

    Pantaleo put 47-year-old Garner into a chokehold during an arrest for selling untaxed cigarettes on July 17. In a viral video of the arrest, Garner can be seen screaming “I can’t breathe!” multiple times until his body goes limp. A medical examiner later ruled his death a homicide.

    Chokeholds are banned by NYPD guidelines, and Garner’s death prompted large protests across the city.

    Looks like P4W cannot excuse this murder by saying police are simply following their “training” … The officer violated NYPD training in killing an unarmed businessman.

    Still no indictment. I am seeing a pattern in all these police assassinations of unarmed Black men. The results are exactly the same. Police walk. Blacks remain dead.

  106. beantownbill. December 3, 2014 at 3:07 pm #

    Just a few questions on the Fred Reed article (I’ve never read his blog):

    Is he or anyone taking into account that American blacks are not purebred Negroid blood (I use use the word anthropologically)? Most of them have white ancestors, hence they have white genes. Shouldn’t that have an effect on their intelligence? Have there been studies comparing 100% black Africans to American blacks? There should be significant differences in IQ then, if the low IQ theory is true.

    Also, shouldn’t climate and physical environment make a cultural difference? It seems that in tropical climes local civilizations have plenty of easy-to-gather food. The natives have to move more slowly cause of the heat. There is not a strong need to develop technology. In Europe, when the climate was cold, the natives had a tougher time surviving, and had to go out to hunt. Technology, cooperation among individuals and aggressiveness were more of a necessary factor for them as compared to tropical (black) cultures.

    Reed gives Mongoloid Asians (anthropologically, again) high marks in
    intelligence. Yet Native-Americans, who are what is called attenuated Mongoloids, a subset of the mongoloid race, never invented the wheel.

    I submit that racial (some anthropologists even deny the existence of “race”) traits are not accurately described, and that environmental factors contribute to a significant percentage of these perceived differences.


    • malthuss December 3, 2014 at 9:12 pm #

      Read ‘The Bell Curve’. USA Blacks were long thought to be mixed race from White devils raping those poor slave girls.

      Nope. The 13% [disputed] ‘White’ gene is from White females needing BBC.

      Lowest IQs on the planet? Aborigines [Blacks that got to Au 70,000? years ago] and some Africans, IQ 60.

      African Blacks [pure] do have much lower IQs that Afro Americans [by 15? points] so there.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 2:52 am #

        White women and Black men account for most of our mulatto population? Citation please.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 2:57 am #

      It’s a big dumb world out there. Note: Israel is brought down by the Sephardic and Oriental Jews. The Turko/Slavic Ashkenazi are the smartest people in the world in terms of IQ.


  107. pkrugman December 3, 2014 at 3:24 pm #

    U.S. oil production is up to almost 9 million barrels per day and expected to hit the highest levels in four decades next year.

    Didn’t this blog focus on “peak oil” in years past? Didn’t US oil production peak in 1970 … according to peak oil theorists? Wasn’t shale supposed to be a one-year boomlet … that was going to crash several years ago?

    Doesn’t anyone change their mind when presented with a changed reality? Or does CFN still believe this drop in oil prices is just a temporary blip in a long term downward slope… from a supposed peak in 1970?

    Or is this now a blog dedicated to showcasing racists who want to blame our ills on Blacks and immigrants?

    • edward4432 December 3, 2014 at 3:45 pm #

      Yeah, Jimbo has been real quite on peak oil of late preferring to focus on the coming collapse of world currency. It’s a wonder he still can snag speaking engagements on his blovating about events that never arrive.

      • malthuss December 3, 2014 at 9:14 pm #


  108. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 3:29 pm #

    Speaking of police brutality, this is a prime example. In fact, it’s murder. These guys should have been charged with murder. I think a good investigative reporter should do a report on steroid use among police officers, because these authoritarians were roid ragin and looking to kick someone’s ass.

    Movie Night Goes Terribly Wrong

  109. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 3:51 pm #

    Is he or anyone taking into account that American blacks are not purebred Negroid blood (I use use the word anthropologically)? Most of them have white ancestors, hence they have white genes. Shouldn’t that have an effect on their intelligence? Have there been studies comparing 100% black Africans to American blacks? There should be significant differences in IQ then, if the low IQ theory is true.

    Excellent point. In doing some research I found the following blog and he throws Jews in with the lot, but are Jews a race? Certainly, Jews are a people and culture as well as adherents to a religion, but they’re not a race. Ashkenazis are Eastern European genetically — mostly White with a little bit of Asian mixed in there somewhere probably, so why would this guy single Jews out as though they are a separate race? Since they’re not a race, and since they’re more intelligent than Whites on average, the only way to account for the intelligence gap is cultural (i.e. nurture versus nature). IMO, genetics accounts for very little of this, if it contributes at all.

    Beyond Highbrow

  110. BackRowHeckler December 3, 2014 at 4:39 pm #

    You got me wrong, Buck. I don’t hate anybody. Most of the guys I work with are from the Caribbean, Trinidad, Jamaica, Virgin Islands. I get along with them OK. Last summer one of out co workers passed away; I wanted to go pay my respects at the funeral home. My co workers told me flat out not to go, it was dangerous. They ended up meeting me at an agreed location and accompanying me into the city.

    I have to say these guys from the Caribbean are reliable and good workers. Basically they’re here to work and make money; many plan on returning home when they’ve saved up enough to live comfortably back in the Islands.


  111. BackRowHeckler December 3, 2014 at 4:44 pm #

    And there is going to be trouble in NYC. It seems like a different situation from Ferguson. The guy selling cigarettes for Chrissake!


    • dmeehan December 3, 2014 at 5:25 pm #

      I’d like to respond to those who are proposing the genetic argument as a basis for explanation of events/policy making/.

      Lets assume for sake of argument that certain races are genetically inferior, and lets use IQ as a proxy for the argument. So, for instance, statistically African-Americans have lower IQ that European Americans. Lets agree that this is genetically determined.

      Now lets look at what this means. It means that the statistical average is lower for African Americans than European Americans. And, we educated folks know, a statistical distribution is a curve with a clustering in the middle and a long tail at either end.

      What does this mean? It means that even if the averages for two groups go not coincide, their is SIGNIFICANT OVERLAP between the two curves.

      This also means, in this specific example, that there are large numbers of European Americans that fall below the average African American.

      So, if low IQ is the problem, then low IQ is the problem. Race is irrelevant. The issue is IQ. And what are we to do with all these low IQ trouble-makers who are hopelessly trapped by their genetics?

      Now we need to determine an IQ below which, a person is unable to properly integrate and contribute to our great society. And we need to segregate and treat specially all of these poor low IQ people, who are a danger to themselves and others.

      Janos, Spell Check – I mean Q. Schik, Cassandra — lets put our heads together and determine a cutoff. I’ll suggest a starting point — somewhere below our IQs.

      • cornpone2014 December 3, 2014 at 5:45 pm #

        “And we need to segregate and treat specially all of these poor low IQ people”

        Cool, how bout we do it by color?

        • dmeehan December 3, 2014 at 5:47 pm #

          I like you cornhole2014. You don’t try to hide your hatred behind science.

          • cornpone2014 December 3, 2014 at 6:21 pm #

            I like you too dimmy

            Deluding yourself with self-important pseudo science sets you apart from the rest of the wiggers.

          • dmeehan December 3, 2014 at 6:31 pm #

            oops, sounds like your below the IQ threshold.

          • cornpone2014 December 3, 2014 at 6:59 pm #

            your clever retorts are killing me.

            what a brilliant mind

          • dmeehan December 3, 2014 at 7:18 pm #


          • dmeehan December 3, 2014 at 7:20 pm #

            you missed a good one though. I wrote “your” instead of “you’re”. Come on, that was a layup.

            I guess spell checking is more up Q. Schtik’s alley.

          • cornpone2014 December 5, 2014 at 6:18 am #

            “you missed a good one though. I wrote “your” instead of “you’re”. Come on, that was a layup.”

            Uh huh, saw dat. Only egg-sucking Liberals jump a man for grammar mistakes, right?

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 2:50 am #

        I’d say 90 should be our bargain basement, our Epsilon Moron. And no one below 120 gets to vote at the State or Federal level. People below 90 get to be thralls or slaves. They are anyway so it’s no big deal. We must be good Masters! Not like the current crop of Chappies.

        • dmeehan December 4, 2014 at 6:12 pm #

          Lots of black folk above 90. You ok with that, bro?

  112. pkrugman December 3, 2014 at 5:52 pm #

    “The guy selling cigarettes for Chrissake!” — BRH

    Have you heard of any white street vendors being choked to death by police?

    The problem in this case is that the guy was selling cigarettes while being Black.

    If it is not about race, how come this week and last week and the weeks before all the men and children who were killed by police were Black? Have police been killing white children and white street vendors? Are the media not reporting police violence against whites?

    Nope, that is not the case. No unarmed white children have been killed by police within two seconds of arriving. No unarmed white street vendors have been choked to death by police.

    When official police authority is used to single out one race and commit extrajudicial executions of unarmed persons, with no legal consequences, that is institutional racism. Lethal police violence just does not happen to unarmed white children.

  113. Ted Stosterone December 3, 2014 at 6:48 pm #

    It happens:


    I’ve read that over 60% of the people killed by cops are white. That’s disproportionately low by population, but probably not so when you take into account crime rates and such.

    But a much bigger problem than white cops killing blacks would be blacks killing blacks—or even blacks killing whites. This Ferguson drama is like worrying more about shark attacks than swimming lessons.

    • dmeehan December 3, 2014 at 6:54 pm #

      Why do people obsess about Black-on-Black murders? What’s so hard to understand about the fact that murdered people (of any category) are killed by people that they know or live near?

      • cornpone2014 December 3, 2014 at 7:03 pm #

        it’s the shear number that people have trouble with

        decent people don’t kill each other by the score every weekend

        • dmeehan December 3, 2014 at 7:16 pm #

          then they should talk about the number.

          • cornpone2014 December 3, 2014 at 7:35 pm #

            if they do much of that they’ll be needing an explanation. Fred Reed can help with that:

            “Of the countless explanations given for the poor performance and poor behavior of blacks in the US, one of them dares not speak its name: Low intelligence.”

          • dmeehan December 3, 2014 at 9:19 pm #

            This one baffles me as well. If low intelligence is the problem, if low intelligence causes violent behavior, why aren’t we discussing low intelligence?

      • malthuss December 4, 2014 at 1:47 am #

        Because there is so much spin in the media in hopes the facts are obscured.

        Here,Here is a fun fact that the liberal media cannot dispute. In 2013 blacks killed 409 whites, while only 189 blacks were killed by whites. There are more whites killed by blacks than blacks killed by whites. And this is true with blacks being only 13% of the population.

        If blacks were as populous as whites, the number of whites killed would skyrocket. The data is available anytime at the FBI.gov crime statistics: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

        Draw yr own conclusions. Why is there such spin in the media?
        So much about Trayvon and the Gentle Giant?

        • dmeehan December 4, 2014 at 12:11 pm #

          Ok, but that’s not black on black violence is it. Its black on white. My question specifically addressed the obsession on black on black violence. Also media spin?

          You are right, we should talk about why there is that disparity.

          Here’s something else we can talk about:

          Percentage of women murdered by whites: 59%
          Percentage of women murdered by blacks: 36%

          What is wrong with white people (genetics, culture?) that makes them murder women at such a high rate?

        • dmeehan December 4, 2014 at 1:54 pm #

          If you are going to take population percentage into account, you have to do it in both directions. Both for perpetrators and victims.

        • dmeehan December 4, 2014 at 3:01 pm #

          “Here,Here is a fun fact that the liberal media cannot dispute. In 2013 blacks killed 409 whites, while only 189 blacks were killed by whites. There are more whites killed by blacks than blacks killed by whites. And this is true with blacks being only 13% of the population.”


          You are right. This is true.

          “If blacks were as populous as whites, the number of whites killed would skyrocket.”


          This is not.

          7% of white murder victims are black
          14% of black murder victims are white.

          Looks bad for blacks so far doesn’t it. Now lets take population percentage into account:

          63% of potential victims are white.
          14% of potential victims are black.

          So if every murderer was “equal opportunity”, we’d expect:63% of victims to be white and 14% of victims to be black, regardless of race of the perp.

          The percentage of Black victims of white murderers is half of the black percentage of the population.

          The percentage of white victims of black murderers is less than a quarter of the white percentage of the population.

          Blacks are less than half as likely as whites to kill someone of the other race.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm #

            Blacks kill at seven times the White rate. How often do they choose White victims? Don’t know – obviously sometimes. Certainly not always. In the case of armed robbery, race is secondary to wealth. In any case, the main victim of Blacks is other Blacks.

          • dmeehan December 4, 2014 at 3:39 pm #

            “How often do they choose White victims? Don’t know – obviously sometimes. Certainly not always.”

            Don’t know? Actually we do. 14% of the time. So certainly very far from always.

            “Blacks kill at seven times the White rate.”

            What do you mean by this? Murders per capita?

            In any case, the main victim of Blacks is other Blacks

            Yes and the main victims of whites is whites. (90% vs 84%)

            Both races commit the same percentage of all murders. 48% whites, 47% blacks. When viewed in terms of population percentage, this is an anomaly we can’t dispute

            Its the only statistic that is even somewhat relevant to a discussion. All the others are bogus.

    • BackRowHeckler December 4, 2014 at 7:32 am #

      We had a white guy shot and killed by cops here in town about a year ago. His mother had died the day before and he was acting out; somebody called the police. They say he was carrying a revolver. We haven’t heard anything about the incident since it happened. This was in a nice neighborhood too.

      • dmeehan December 10, 2014 at 5:59 pm #

        I guys white people don’t do a very good job of sticking up for their own.

        • dmeehan December 10, 2014 at 6:01 pm #


  114. Cold N. Holefield December 3, 2014 at 7:59 pm #

    decent people don’t kill each other by the score every weekend

    True dat. Decent people also don’t shave their white heads, tattoo swastikas all over their bodies and salute Hitler, wouldn’t you agree?

    About the daughter, you don’t have to worry about her “mixing.” She told us today she thinks she’s mildly racist. This after telling us (my wife and I) the other day we were low-key racists and homophobes.

    Still, if she wanted to date and/or marry a Black man I wouldn’t object because of the color of his skin. It would be the culture I would evaluate before passing judgment and giving my blessing. If the guy was ghetto in any way or had ties to ghetto in any way, and I mean any way, then I would not give my blessing and avail my daughter of my severe misgivings and condemnation. Considering she doesn’t find Black guys particularly attractive (their demeanors), at least currently, coupled with the whole cultural divide, I don’t think there’s much chance of her mixing.

    FYI, it was a satirical dig aimed at Janos, but apparently that went right over your head.

    • cornpone2014 December 4, 2014 at 3:18 pm #

      “Decent people also don’t shave their white heads, tattoo swastikas all over their bodies and salute Hitler, wouldn’t you agree?”

      Mostly I would agree with that. However, I don’t recall hearing of skin heads killing each other over weekend on the south-side of Chicago.

      By the way, I’m on here mostly to amuse myself; don’t take any of my comments too serious.

  115. Buck Stud December 3, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

    “The salvation of the state is watchfulness in the citizen” – Hartley Burr Alexander, Professor of Philosophy.

    Q’s comment up thread about might makes right in reference to Native Americans along with his pyramid construction projects reminded me of the great sculptor Lee Lawrie and the Nebraska State Capital building.

    And what an amazing building it is. The sculpture/carving is pure architectonic beauty and not embellished decoration: the carved motifs emerge from the matrix harmoniously and structurally as opposed to laminated afterthoughts.

    And it’s a building that inclusively pays tribute to various cultures via beautifully carved incised/prismatic lettering:

    Pawnee Ritual Song


    • Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 9:53 pm #

      And what an amazing building it is. – Buck


      Wow, surely ONE man didn’t do all that. Was he directing a crew? Was this a depression era WPA project?

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 1:29 am #

        When are you going to post a picture of the Pyramid?

        What will you do if Big Dumb Hans (Thom) brings a Black Woman home for the Holidays. Not a pretty high yellow Quadroon like the ones you used to “date” when you were a Bank Examiner, but a Coal Black, Heart of Darkness type straight from the bush? Will you a: Give a big toothy Wasp smile during dinner but give him hell later. b: Refuse them entry at all or c: Slap him heartily on the back and exclaim, “Drilling for oil, son? You are chip of the old block.”

      • Buck Stud December 4, 2014 at 11:16 am #

        No doubt he had a crew/assistants. It was not a WPA project as construction started in the twenties and rapped up in the early thirties.

        IMO, the building is an American cultural treasure, although its not well publicized or particularity recognized by the general public, or at least outside of the region. The key word for the building is ” architectonic”. The manner is which the sculptures emerge from architectural matrix evokes Egyptian and Meso-American sculpture/architecture which unite as one harmonious whole as opposed to applied decoration/ornamentation. But to say that many of the sculptures were carved is a bit of a misnomer as much of the work was sculpted out of bricks not yet fired so a true stone carver might cringe as this being termed purely “glyptic” in approach and spirit. (As an aside, one of the most critical aspects of ‘carved brick’ is marking and stacking the bricks accordingly all through the process: immediately after sculpting, in the firing, and then when laying the brick to mortar. In many ways, it is the MOST important aspect because placing a carved brick in the wrong place in a complex sculptural puzzle is a major fuck up. It’s the little things as they say!)

        I was introduced to the work of Lawrie by a great and now deceased architect who was among the last of a dying breed of architects. He wore a bow tie to work everyday and asked me to write an essay on architectural carving before awarding me a particular commission. He must have liked what he read because he gave me the job. He then allowed to to read pages and pages of his own notes and field sketches from an architectural study trip in France and Italy and then queried me in the aftermath. Years later it occurred to me that he did not want mechanical work but productions that resulted from an understanding of the the greater architectural purpose They don’t make em like that anymore.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 2:44 am #

      Yes, the Pawnee surrendered and the Sioux fought. Guess who is still there?

      Your arch is a monument to bigotry, racism, and patriarchy. Shame on you for finding it beautiful.

      The Pawnee were technically more developed with huge towns and even small pyramids. The Sioux despised them for the filth of their towns and their human sacrifice. Positing a one to one relationship between culture and technology may be a mistake – certainly one that both Traditional and Marxist Anthropology fell into.

  116. Pucker December 3, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

    Does anyone know of any research studying the issue of the relationship between low IQ and ignorance and the ability to discern Reality? Here, I note that Reverend JIm Jones of the People’s Temple cult intentionally targeted high school drop outs, drug addicts, and black people. In fact, Reverend Jones decided to move his church to Guyana because Guyana is an English-speaking country with a predominately black population.

    My concern is that if low IQ and ignorance are closely related to delusion, then perhaps American negroes may be inherently disposed to blaming all of their problems on non-existent racism? The black and left leadership in the US would be organically inclined to fabricate fake evidence of racism in the form of easily manipulated statistics to confirm their black following’s need to feel victimized. (This phenomenon would be similar to evangelical preachers using fake faith-healings to maintain control over their congregations.) American blacks would find themselves in the iron grip of Stop-and-Frisk strike hard police tactics, but would be unable to deal with this Reality because of their ignorance of Stop-and-Frisk and the 4th and 5th Amendments of the US Constitution. Instead, the low IQ blacks would just blame everything on a White Conspiracy and racism. Does this make sense? Thank you.

    • beantownbill. December 3, 2014 at 11:53 pm #

      No, it doesn’t Pucker. I had a cat for 15 years. It obviously had a much lower IQ than humans, but it sure did seem to know reality. His philosophy of life was to live each moment in the present. When something bad happened to him, he didn’t dwell on it because the next moment might be good, so who cares what happened in the past? He was a supreme realist.

      The only exception I can remember was his irrational fear of fire alarms. We have central station fire alarms (not smoke detectors) which make a very loud noise when set off. Our Fire Department requests annual testing. My cat was terrified of the noise and always ran under the bed when testing occurred. The reality was that of course the noise was harmless, but the cat didn’t know that, so technically speaking, he was not facing reality – even though it was just through ignorance.

      I bring this example up because a cat can’t compare to a human in terms of IQ, but he was quite realistic. This shows, despite cross species differences, reality-based behavior isn’t dependent on high IQ.

      • beantownbill. December 4, 2014 at 12:37 am #

        And bad behavior isn’t related to IQ. Everyone, in some manner “acts out” occasionally. Could the commission of black violen be more of an impulse-control issue than an intelligence issue?

        Given that there are 35 million or more blacks in America, what percentage of that population acts violently? Let’s say 10%. Since almost all violent acts are illegal, that would mean that 3.5 million violent crimes are perpetrated by blacks. I haven’t read or heard of more than this number happening each year. So, assuming my 10% assumption is accurate – which is probably an overstatement – then at least 9 out of 10 blacks are not violent. This is hardly a violent race, then. In fact, the most one could say is that blacks are more violent than whites because they commit more violent crimes. But that’s not even very accurate because whites have killed more persons throughout recorded history than blacks ever have.

        When a black rapes a white woman, it tends to be featured in the news more than when a white man rapes a white woman. When an unknown rapist is identified as a black male we hear something along the lines of “that damn black bastard, he oughta be shot”, but when the rapist is described as a white male, we hear, “they oughta shoot that guy”, not saying “they oughta shoot this white guy”. See the slight difference in both sets of statements?

        And obviously blacks notice the difference, and it just adds one more racial slur to the already piled-high tower of prejudice that the 90% of non-violent blacks have to experience.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 2:39 am #

          The good ones are no prizes either – and they stand by the really bad ones. Poor Black neighborhoods are far more dangerous than poor Whites ones because Blacks are a far more violent race man for man. So if you go where they are concentrated, it’s very dangerous indeed, particularly for Non Blacks.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 3:37 pm #

        Condolences for your cat. Did he die nobly? Did he know he was dying? My dog went into ecstasy towards the end. Animals can have mystical experiences. Who knew? I for one, didn’t.

      • stelmosfire December 4, 2014 at 5:01 pm #

        Good Day BTB, I can appreciate your cats realistic response to the fire alarms. I’ve been to hundreds (if not thousands) of false alarms. Most people haven’t the sense to find out why the alarm is sounding even if there is not a reason. I’ll be damned if I roll over and ignore it. The worst perps are college kids and low income housing residents. We literally had to rouse them out of their comfy beds. I took somewhat of a warped and bizarre pleasure at 3 am on a NE January morning. Some of the more pissed officers would make them all wait outside ( except for the kids and elderly). The college kids thought it was a big joke until their teeth were chattering like a popcorn popper. Ever see a 100 pond co-ed with bare feet and a cotton sheet at -5F standing in an ice covered parking lot? Every detector needed to be checked and cleared. My detectors at home sometimes go off at night. It bugs me but the ol’ lady makes me get up and search the house, usually with a flashlight and the aluminum B-bat I keep by the bed ;o) Stupid is as Stupid Does!

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 1:41 am #

      Yes Puck. Thank you for being serious for a change about a serious issue. Dumb people are by definition easily confused. Many of the so called mentally ill are just really dumb people who were raised poorly and/or got into drugs and got screwed up. Add some institutionalization and psych meds, and you have the usual mess.

      Jared Taylor described the opposite: Political Correctness is so absurd that only really smart people, capable of rationalizing anything, could possibly believe it. It takes a lot of mental power to be so deluded.

    • malthuss December 4, 2014 at 6:53 pm #

      Check a book called ‘The Myth of Self Esteem’.
      It has been duly noted Blacks have H_U_G_E Self Esteem.

      Some teachers have noted ‘my dumbest students are the most proud’ [hi self esteem].

      ‘the relationship between low IQ and ignorance and the ability to discern Reality? ‘
      Low IQ of itself is not ‘ignorance’. It is the inability to get free of ignorance.

  117. Pucker December 3, 2014 at 9:51 pm #

    I still like Reverend Jesse Jackson. At least, he’s holding true to Dr. King’s message of non-violence, and he is advocating for the end of US empire, and more healthcare, education, and jobs, which will improve the lives of American blacks.

    This is in contrast to Reverend Farrakhan who recently told an audience of blacks that they should teach their babies to throw their milk bottles at white people. True story….

  118. johngalt333 December 3, 2014 at 10:16 pm #

    “Of the countless explanations given for the poor performance and poor behavior of blacks in the US, one of them dares not speak its name: Low intelligence. Yet it fits all the evidence. It explains why Africa never built cities, why it did not invent writing, why there was no African Fifth-Century Athens.” — Fred Reed

    Apparently Mr. Reed is unaware of the great African civilizations. For example the Nubian civilization, blacker than black.

    Apparently Mr. Reed has never heard of ancient Egyptian civilization or hieroglyphics … Or perhaps Mr. Reed, being American, does not realize Egypt is found on the African continent, which did build cities, and went on to involuntarily build the United States economy under a reign of white terror. (I suppose people like Reed and Qshtik find nothing wrong with genocide and forced slavery because they believe “might makes right.”)

    When Mr. Reed begins by making several significant errors regarding Africa, and shows his ignorance of Africa, it diminishes his credibility when he speaks about IQ and who has “low” IQ, much less IQ’s relevance or explanatory power.

    • Pucker December 3, 2014 at 11:07 pm #

      One doesn’t want to fabricate certain facts about the Nubian civilization in order to create fake evidence. Yes, Nubian and Egyptian civilizations were located in North Africa and there were negro inhabitants of these civilizations, but that is not to say that they were black. What’s more interesting is that Egyptian civilization spread north, but it did not spread to Southern Africa. In other words, low IQ may be an inherent barrier to the spread of civilization?

    • cornpone2014 December 4, 2014 at 3:01 pm #

      as I recall it Fred is/was a member of Mensa – pretty smart fellow

      Just assume Fred knows what the hell he is talking about.

    • malthuss December 4, 2014 at 7:01 pm #

      ‘great African civilizations’???
      If every African is not just a ‘magical Negro’ but also a genius why are there no great African countries?

      With a BILLION+ Africans in Africa why is the place a train wreck of murder, rape, genocide etc?

      Where are the African scientists, inventors, civilization builders?

  119. Q. Shtik December 3, 2014 at 11:07 pm #


    What are your thoughts on this?


    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 1:47 am #

      What jumps out at me is the lie that minorities are a small percentage of Sweden. Muslims will be a majority there by 2050 unless it is stopped.

      Girls often develop a fascination with large animals before puberty. Obviously Nature is getting them ready for Men.

      The debate itself is the same as our debate over Mark Twain. I’m for real literature not bowdlerized versions.

    • malthuss December 4, 2014 at 7:06 pm #

      Are you going to see ‘Annie’ once it opens?

      The new ‘Captain America’ [Marvel] is Black.

  120. FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2014 at 2:50 am #

    New York City Protests Eric Garner Decision

    Two similar decisions by Grand Jury just one week apart? Now that looks like conspiracy. Their could by multiple reasons, but most obvious is to conduct Police readiness drills to suppress large urban riots.


  121. FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2014 at 3:08 am #

    Zero Hedge is mistaken – Russia is NOT planning to reinstate the Gold Standard

    “The hypothesis that follows, if carried through, is certain to have a significant effect on gold and the relationship between gold and all government-issued currencies.

    The successful remonetisation of gold by a major power such as Russia would draw attention to the fault-lines between fiat currencies issued by governments unable or unwilling to do the same and those that can follow in due course. It would be a schism in the world’s dollar-based monetary order.”


    If not for reintroduction of Direct Gold Standard, why than Russia is buying up so much gold?

    Russia is preparing for war. It is a war chest.

  122. FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2014 at 5:33 am #

    Cutting Russian Banks off SWIFT Will Mean War, Warns Head of Russia’s Second Largest Bank

    Andrei Kostin, chief of the VTB Bank, says that if Russian banks access to the international payment system will be prohibited as sanctions over Ukraine war, “the U.S ambassador to Moscow should leave the same day.”


  123. FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2014 at 6:28 am #

    Putin: Crimea means the same to Russians as Temple Mount in Jerusalem for the followers of Islam and Judaism

    It was an event of special significance for the country and the people, because Crimea is populated by our people and the peninsula is of strategic importance for Russia as the spiritual source of the development of a multifaceted but solid Russian nation and a centralized Russian state. It was in Crimea, in the ancient city of Chersonesus or Korsun, as ancient Russian chroniclers called it, that Grand Prince Vladimir was baptised before bringing Christianity to Rus.

    In addition to ethnic similarity, a common language, common elements of their material culture, a common territory, even though its borders were not marked then, and a nascent common economy and government, Christianity was a powerful spiritual unifying force that helped involve various tribes and tribal unions of the vast Eastern Slavic world in the creation of a Russian nation and Russian state. It was thanks to this spiritual unity that our forefathers for the first time and forevermore saw themselves as a united nation. All of this allows us to say that Crimea, the ancient Korsun or Chersonesus, and Sevastopol have invaluable civilisational and even sacral importance for Russia, like the Temple Mount in Jerusalem for the followers of Islam and Judaism.


    • beantownbill. December 4, 2014 at 11:25 am #

      If you want your Crimea, you can have your Crimea.

      What the hell are we doing getting involved there, anyway? We almost blew up the world in 1962 because Russia placed missiles 90 miles from the American border. What’s fair is fair. If we still are behind the Ukraine mess, then Russia ought to re-place missiles in Cuba. The American people are really getting under my skin by letting our politicians get away with murder (literally). Are we really that dumb? And some people castigate blacks because of low IQ. Whites aren’t really too smart either.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 2:48 pm #

      Listen to this guy. Christianity is very useful in unifying vast numbers of people. Now how to take it over and make it serve his people. It will be more difficult because Orthodoxy is not monolithic the way Catholicism is. It’s separated into National Churches and they aren’t ruled by a single Emperor or Pope.

      Sure. The Temple Mount is really “unifying” Palestine? How, by being the burning wick of WW3? Same thing in Crimea – it has lots of Muslims who have no business being in Russia at all.

  124. Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2014 at 3:13 pm #

    Remember folks, Finc is a Jewish guy living in the Caribbean. That’s about how Russian he is. This is what he is trying to do:


    Trying to (Neo) Con the Russians into giving away their Civilization the way they did to America and Western Europe.

    • Buck Stud December 4, 2014 at 8:54 pm #

      From your linked essay in which Havers cites distinguishes the ethnic/ historical/Christian view of liberalism from the universalism of Strauss:

      “Christian charity from a political perspective is a state of being wherein one seeks a sympathetic understanding of ideas and beliefs that are different to one’s own. Charitable Christians seek to understand other viewpoints and are willing to engage alternative ideas and political proposals rather than oppose them without open dialogue.”

      Are there any of these types left in America? After all, many self- described “Christians” refuse to investigate “Obamacare” beyond the propagandist myth of “socialism” when, in fact, it was conceived in a right-wing/conservative think tank. Indeed, their vehement opposition seems more directed against the ‘black guy’ than any rational and liberal Christian objection. Or as The Boss sang:

      “Yeah, me and Frankie laughing and drinking, nothing feels better than blood on blood.”

      Which supports the authors view that “liberalism” can only flourish among people of shared genetic, historical background. Out of this he further asserts that the human qualities of liberalism naturally blossom among family members–I will die for my kids; I will give my brother my last dime–and that shared ethnicity is a natural extension of family which provides the homogeneous societal soil in which liberalism can flourish.

      But once the ‘weeds’ of disparate cultures begin to infest the ‘familial garden’ so to speak, all bets for liberalism are off and humans naturally revert to a ‘we got ours and all others get lost’ stance.

      It’s hard to argue against this given the evidence our current society, and I suppose, past ones as well, After all, as pointed out in the article, very few would choose, much less understand a Greek universal/a-priori notion of a greater good a la Strauss beyond the concerns of the immediate tribe. (Of course, the author eagerly points out that this very philosophy does not apply to Strauss/Jews.)

      And yet, how can the author–or you– logically situate the historical/ethnic view of liberalism when say, for instance, the evidence points to A Strauss’ universal influence in the most extreme cases? For example, the beautiful Chinese or African America classical musician being far more representative of the best of European culture than an Appalachian hick drinking beer at the NASCAR track?

      In other words, chalk one up for the ancient Greeks and Strauss column, or at least on this particular line.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2014 at 1:46 pm #

        Well yes Buck, as the author points out it IS hypocrisy on the part of the people who are pushing it. It would still be true if he said it reluctantly. And a White can become a Master of Japanese or Chinese arts, such as Acupuncture or Kung Fu – but he will not then be considered a native by the natives. I’m all for the spread of ideas, techniques, and arts – why do you people demand more than that? As always, it comes down to White guilt and the secret desire (even to yourselves) to be better than other Whites by purifying us out of existence.

        And your hatred of Whites who don’t sign on to the Suicide Cult is red hot and has been for generations. And Jews have no such self hatred but they are all for the self hatred of Whites. That would make you very angry if you were a normal person btw.

  125. johngalt333 December 4, 2014 at 3:38 pm #

    Yes, Janos, I love Christianity’s diversity and inclusiveness. Jesus was a model hippie, all about peace and love. Modern day Christians follow Christ’s example and are pro-civil rights, pro-immigration, pro-peace, help the poor, pro-racial integration, etc. I also love the new Pope and his Christian reforms. Whether Orthodox, Protestant, Catholic, etc. Christians are great liberals.

    Still, Islam is the fastest growing religion and best unifier of people. Muslim theology is much simpler… nondualistic. La illaha il Allah!

  126. johngalt333 December 4, 2014 at 3:46 pm #

    Janos, “La ilaha” means “nothing exists”, i. e. nothing is worthy of consideration except that which stands by itself and is not in need of consideration. And how do we isolate that Being? By eliminating from our consciousness (mind) all that can be eliminated, even and including all mental concepts (of God), until there is only pure existence itself, pulsing through our bodies and flowing through our veins.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2014 at 12:48 am #

      It means There is no God but Allah. Not the same as what you are saying – though some Sufis lineages do sound almost Buddhist sometimes. Oh hi Soak.

  127. Cold N. Holefield December 4, 2014 at 3:54 pm #

    as I recall it Fred is/was a member of Mensa – pretty smart fellow

    What a terrible name for a terribly pretentious organization. Or maybe it’s appropriate since its members are a bunch of morose menstruators, or they should be with a name like that. I have no idea how intelligent I am, nor do I want to know. What I do know is I’m intelligent enough to avoid “clubs” and the genius of the crowd, and that’s good enough for me.

    Moody & the Menstruators

  128. Cold N. Holefield December 4, 2014 at 3:56 pm #

    And how do we isolate that Being? By eliminating from our consciousness (mind) all that can be eliminated, even and including all mental concepts (of God), until there is only pure existence itself, pulsing through our bodies and flowing through our veins.

    What a fancy city way of saying lobotomy.

  129. Cold N. Holefield December 4, 2014 at 4:01 pm #

    By the way, I’m on here mostly to amuse myself; don’t take any of my comments too serious.

    Thanks for the heads up. I don’t take any of this too seriously. By the way, I loves me some cornpone. The wife has a kick-ass recipe and I always have a second piece. Lots of folks up North, the Yankees if you will, haven’t had cornpone, and those who have had it, don’t really care for it. I’m not one of those people. I like cornpone every bit as much as I like rotten shark.

  130. Cold N. Holefield December 4, 2014 at 4:03 pm #

    Still, Islam is the fastest growing religion and best unifier of people. Muslim theology is much simpler… nondualistic. La illaha il Allah!

    What’s the best way we can join up and become terrorists?

  131. johngalt333 December 4, 2014 at 4:30 pm #

    “What’s the best way we can join up and become terrorists?” — StoneCold

    Join the Navy Seals or Delta Force or some other military unit. They will train you in the use of weapons, explosives, etc. Paid for by taxpayers if you are serious.

    Islam is a religion of peace.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 4, 2014 at 6:41 pm #

      I should have clarified, how do we join up and become heterosexual terrorists. Last I heard, the outfits you mentioned are increasingly LGBT hangs. Call me old-fashioned, but terrorism shouldn’t be equal opportunity. I think Sharia Law agrees, don’t you?

  132. Cold N. Holefield December 4, 2014 at 7:01 pm #

    Lots of black folk above 90. You ok with that, bro?

    Not to mention, I bet these “impartial” scientists studying the intelligence test results aren’t factoring in the fluoride effect. A majority of Blacks reside in urban areas and those urban areas fluoridate their water and we all know fluoridation not only destroys precious bodily fluids and life essence, but it also saps intelligence.

    • cornpone2014 December 5, 2014 at 6:26 am #

      “All 23,000 Liberian Students Fail University Admission Exam”

      So from what you’re saying they must fluoridate the hell out of the water in Liberia, right?


  133. Pucker December 4, 2014 at 9:13 pm #

    According to Tim Reiterman’s book “Raven: The Untold Story of Reverend Jim Jones”, Reverend Jones, in addition to fake faith healings, also found that he could easily manipulate white people’s feelings of guilt over past “racism”. Reverend Jones was a Manchiavellian who believed that “The End Justifies the Means”. Reverend Jones used religion and the social gospel to further communism, which was a vehicle to maximize his personal power and control.

    According to Sheldin Wolin’s excellent book “Democracy Incorporated”, the core philosophical leaders in the U.S. are Machiavellians who follow some weirdo named “Leo Strauss”. Apparently, Leo Strauss was a follower of Plato and early Greek philosophers who believed that the common people are f..ck’n stupid and hopelessly deluded such that the leadership has to pander to the people’s delusions while recognizing a higher reality. Basically, the leadership is like Reverend Jim Jones. Don’t Drink the Kool Aid!

  134. progress4what December 4, 2014 at 9:15 pm #

    “Two similar decisions by Grand Jury just one week apart? Now that looks like conspiracy. Their could by multiple reasons, but most obvious is to conduct Police readiness drills to suppress large urban riots.” – fincain –

    That’s interesting, fm. Another reason would be to shake the system so as to make violent people float to the top of the internet where they can be skimmed off, like these two fellows:

    “Several days ago the FBI arrested two men belonging to the New Black Panthers who were plotting to detonate explosives during protests in Ferguson, Missouri. Via New York Post.”


  135. progress4what December 4, 2014 at 9:28 pm #

    “….the common people are f..ck’n stupid and hopelessly deluded such that the leadership has to pander to the people’s delusions while recognizing a higher reality…” – pucker –

    Something weird is going on here, that’s for sure, pucker.

    The question of excessive police use of force and of unjustifiable deaths at the hands of police should be an issue that all Americans take an interest in. And it’s interesting that many of the protesters in many cities appear to be white.

    Why is it, then, that the “news” media, led by Pres. Obama, Attorney General Al Sharpton, and others seem DETERMINED that these issues be seen thru a lens of race, and ONLY thru a lens of race. I don’t get it. It as as though this thing were being manipulated as a deliberate distraction or something.

    Weird. I’m telling you.

  136. progress4what December 4, 2014 at 9:44 pm #

    “Last summer one of out co workers passed away; I wanted to go pay my respects at the funeral home. My co workers told me flat out not to go, it was dangerous. They ended up meeting me at an agreed location and accompanying me into the city.”
    – backrow, concerning his black co-workers –

    Yeah, backrow, sounds like you work with a good bunch of guys with good street smarts. It’s cool that they were able to escort you to that funeral home.

    I keep seeing pics and video clips of all these “hands up/I can’t breathe” protesters. There are large numbers of idealistic and young looking white kids out there. Who’s escorting them and what’s keeping them safe. ‘Cause you know there’s a rough element among the protesters, and the protests are spilling into some rough areas.

    Are these young idealists being kept safe because of the power of the protest? Is “Hands up/ don’t rob or rape me” a sufficient counterspell to ensure safety? If so, then cops could stop carrying weapons – instead affecting arrests by raising their hands and shouting “Hands up/don’t shoot, please search yourself and get in the back of that police car.”

    • beantownbill. December 4, 2014 at 11:00 pm #

      Kinda reminds me of the good ol’ days of the ’60’s, Procon. Police are part of “government” and hence the establishment. If you stay around long enough everything comes full circle. Maybe this time protests might produce real change. One can hope. I would like to see more and more demonstrations. You think that could happen?

  137. progress4what December 4, 2014 at 9:58 pm #

    It’s like the internet is trolling itself.

    Ferguson looks like a justifiable shooting.
    Staten Island looks like police brutality leading to accidental death.
    The MSM seems determined to sell them both as due to racism.

    Meanwhile, plenty of whites die at the hands of police.
    And we’ve got a black president who could address all this.
    He could address it in a way that didn’t pander to old racist fears.

    That’s not what he’s doing though, is it?

    • ZrCrypDiK December 5, 2014 at 12:07 am #

      Damn, d00d – srsly? 4 in a row?!?

      How ’bout that Cass. She been back, after her 38 poast *FLOOD*? I’m pretty sure NOT.

      Toodle pip!!!

  138. beantownbill. December 4, 2014 at 10:27 pm #


    My cat suddenly got kidney failure at age 20 (we got him at age 5). He was very sick when we put him down. I don’t think he knew he was dying, but who really knows? Putting him down was the hardest thing I ever did. I still think of him every day, 3 years later, and I miss him very much.

    I was always a dog person until I took in my cat. I learned so very much from him. Cats are amazing creatures. Watching him at rest, I just knew he was in another dimension. Every day watching him was a mystical experience. I don’t know how to explain it otherwise. You. Know my belief system is so very empirical, but if I were ever to believe otherwise, I know my cat, even now would guide me on a long, strange journey.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2014 at 12:53 am #

      Yes I used to walk home late at night and see a Black cat lying in the middle of sidewalk, almost stepping on him. He was totally the centre of his own existence. Very beautiful.

  139. beantownbill. December 4, 2014 at 10:46 pm #

    @ St. Elmo’s Fire:

    Howdy, RT. Just last month a fire alarm went off in the evening. I knew the FD would be there promptly, so my wife and I went outside to wait. There’s 24 condos in my building and the PD had to check each one of them before they’d let us back in. Some of my neighbors were really stupid – they stayed inside. Yeah, I knew it was just a heat detector going off and there probably wasn’t a fire, but you have to play it conservatively when your life could be at risk. Growing up I had 2 different fires in my house, so I’m a little sensitive about it. Oh, well, at least I got to meet with some of my neighbors while I waited.

  140. Pucker December 4, 2014 at 10:56 pm #

    The use of Symbols seems to be a mind control technique used to shut off thought. Symbols are absolutes with no independent reality behind them. For example, the Flag evokes the emotion of nationalism without asking the subject to think about all of the annoying, over-paid, lazy nincumpoop bureaucrats who work for the government, or the welfare mothers with 15 kids milking the system, etc.

    Is Michael Brown a Symbol, rather than a person? Have they used mind control to elevate Michael Brown to an unassailable Symbol such that low IQ black people can’t grasp the legal issues underlying the Grand Jury inquiry?

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2014 at 1:04 am #

      Two gentle giants, one real and one fake. But Blacks only see color as Fred said. Even when they are smart, they choose solidarity with the stupid Black majority in general – for that way lies power and goodies.

  141. Pucker December 5, 2014 at 12:58 am #


    “Social psychology has shown the “power of the crowd” for decades. For example, in the 1960s, psychologists Stanley Milgram, PhD, Leonard Bickman, PhD, and Lawrence Berkowitz, EdD, demonstrated social influence by having a group of people on a busy New York City sidewalk gaze up at nothing in the sky. When one man looked up at nothing, only 4 percent of passersby joined him. When five people stood on the sidewalk looking up at nothing, 18 percent of passersby joined them. And when a group of 15 gazed upward, 40 percent of passersby then joined, nearly stopping traffic in one minute.
    As other cult leaders have done, Jim Jones used this “power of the crowd” influence in controlling others’ behavior, intellect, thoughts and emotions, says Steven Hassan, a licensed mental health counselor with the counseling group Freedom of Mind and a former cult member. This includes instituting rigid rules and regulations, withholding or distorting information, using hypnotic trances, and generating guilt and fear among followers.”

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2014 at 1:06 am #

      The Big Lie is the same technique. We are herd animals by and large. Fifty million Frenchmen can’t be wrong? Oh yes they can and usually are.

  142. Pucker December 5, 2014 at 1:13 am #

    Do black children get more presents or less on Christmas? On the one hand, the higher poverty rates of blacks would suggest that black kids may not receive many presents on Christmas morning. On the other hand, it is common for a black teenage girl to have numerous black boyfriends, and they can’t figure out which one fathered which particular kid. In such a situation, the black girl could conceivably hit up multiple men for presents for the same kid.

  143. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2014 at 4:54 am #

    Ukraine nuclear power plant fault adds to electricity shortages

    Country forced to introduce power cuts amid short circuit at Zaporizhya facility and falling coal supplies


    Congratulations, America. You just turned yet another country into a failed state. One of potential reasons for failure is replacement of Russian-made nuclear fuel assemblies with one produced by American Westinghouse company, which are not 100% compatible with Russian-made nuclear reactors.

  144. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2014 at 5:09 am #

    In Diplomatic Defeat, Putin Diverts Pipeline to Turkey

    The decision also seemed to be a rare victory for the European Union and the Obama administration, which have appeared largely impotent this year as Mr. Putin annexed Crimea and stirred rebellion in eastern Ukraine.


    Defeat, really?

    Shipping Chokepoint Strangles Ukraine Hopes for U.S. LNG

    Ukraine’s plan to diminish its energy dependence on Russia is adrift in the Bosporus Strait.

    The nation, which gets half its gas from Russia, wants to build a liquefied natural gas terminal on the Black Sea and held talks with Cheniere Energy Inc. (LNG) to import U.S. cargoes. The only path to the terminal is through Istanbul’s 17-mile waterway.

    Turkey doesn’t allow LNG shipments through the Bosporus because of safety concerns and congestion. The strait is about half a mile wide at its narrowest point and classified as a maritime chokepoint, among the most difficult to navigate.

    “If Turkey were to agree to LNG ships transiting the Bosporus to deliver fuel to Ukraine, other states in the Black Sea would also want to invest in their own terminals,” Michelle Berman, the head of shipping and freight research at Business Monitor International in London, wrote in an e-mail Nov. 27. “This would lead to a considerable ramp up in the volume of traffic passing through the already congested Bosporus.”


    Now Turkey just got a mufti-billion dollar incentive to discover a “Seagull sickness” from exposure to American LNG and that they need to protect the environment by blocking LNG tankers from passing through Bosporus.

    Plan also envisions building a gas hub on the border between Turkey and Greece – so if EU wants to keep their European asses warm, they will have to pay for construction of gas pipeline to take it from there. Under the original, now cancelled South Stream project, Russia was supposed to pay for it.

  145. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2014 at 5:48 am #

    Court Orders School District to Pay $75,000 for Denying Boy Use of Girls’ Restroom

    AUGUSTA, Maine – A superior court has ordered a Maine school district to pay $75,000 to the attorneys of a male student who identifies as a female after it was declared that officials discriminated against him by denying the use of the girls’ restroom.

    As previously reported, Wyatt Maines is an identical twin who, according to his parents, has exhibited feminine behavior since he was a preschooler. By the time he reached fifth grade, Wyatt legally changed his name to “Nicole,” let his hair grow long, and began regularly wearing feminine clothing.


    Things like “gender agenda”, Juvenile Justice and similar are being consistently pushed by Finance International over the past 50 years using “Overton Windows” technology uniformly in all Western Countries.

    The goal is obvious: to weaken the Nation State by weakening its basic building block – The Traditional Family.

    Things are bad in US, but they are disastrous in European Union. US at least pretends to resist the Cartel’s agenda.

    So far Russia has managed to successfully resist introducing Juvenile Justice and other anti-family agenda in the country and debates are going openly, even in the mainstream media.

  146. johngalt333 December 5, 2014 at 7:45 am #

    “The goal is obvious: to weaken the Nation State by weakening its basic building block – The Traditional Family.”

    Good riddance to both! Nation states are always at war and traditional families are the means of brainwashing children that it is honorable to go to war.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2014 at 8:04 am #

      Please do not forget to tell that to emergency responders next time you call ambulance, Police or Fire.

  147. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2014 at 8:08 am #

    Russian Spy Chief Blames U.S., EU for Ruble, Oil Price Collapse

    The U.S. and its allies are seeking to change the regime in Moscow through sanctions and attacks on the ruble and the oil price, Russia’s spy chief said.

    A decline of more than 30 percent in the oil price this year is caused partly by U.S. actions, Mikhail Fradkov, the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service, said after President Vladimir Putin’s annual address to parliament.

    Foreign investment funds are “taking part” in ruble speculation via intermediaries, Fradkov, a former prime minister, said in an interview in the Kremlin. “Any speculation has specific schemes and the schemes have a number of participants,” he said.

    The ruble has lost 39 percent of its value against the dollar this year, the world’s worst performance after the Ukrainian hryvnia, as the U.S. and the European Union imposed sanctions after Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea peninsula in March. They also accuse Russia of providing military support to separatists in Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions, a charge Russia denies.


    Anybody still believes in “Free Market”?

    • FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2014 at 8:41 am #

      If I was in Obama’s shoes, I’d nominate Mr.Fradkov to Attorney General – he’d efficiently clean the Wall Street from marauders. The guy is real professional.

  148. Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2014 at 8:28 am #

    “All 23,000 Liberian Students Fail University Admission Exam”

    So from what you’re saying they must fluoridate the hell out of the water in Liberia, right?


    Maybe it’s the latex.

    So, from what you’re saying this guy, similar to Q. Shtik and by virtue of his obvious racially superior intelligence, has been too busy building a cutting edge thorium reactor and particle accelerator in his backyard as well as conducting ground-breaking research in nuclear fusion to figure out a way to permanently remove the hair from his back, right?


  149. Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2014 at 10:10 am #

    In Europe they take a different approach, rather than “protesting,” to dealing with thug cops who like to beat on people for no good reason. Also, do a video search on police brutality. The examples seem endless and it’s clear police brutality is equal opportunity and racially blind.

    Guards that Beat Fan are then Beaten by More Fans

  150. johngalt333 December 5, 2014 at 10:15 am #

    “Please do not forget to tell that to emergency responders next time you call ambulance, Police or Fire.” –Finca

    I will tell them not to interfere. My order is DNR.

    Most of human history there were no government paid first responders. First responders are a 20th century invention.

    95% of government oil consumption is DoD preparation for or execution of war, which is what nation states do 365/24/7, bleeding taxpayers dry, wasting trillions of dollars. Nation states are war making death producing, property destroying, blood sucking … War is the health of the State.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2014 at 12:34 pm #

      Napoleon once said: you always feed an army, either your own or your enemy’s. Would you prefer your taxes to go to feed Chineese or Russian army?

    • BackRowHeckler December 5, 2014 at 4:32 pm #