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The overnight news sure took on that Halloween tang as the nation woke up to what is probably now confirmed to be a national record for a civilian mad-shooter incident. So far, fifty-eight dead and over 500 hundred injured in Las Vegas at the Route 91 Harvest Festival (Nine up in fatalities from last year’s Florida Pulse nightclub massacre, and way more injured this time).

The incident will live in infamy for maybe a day and a half in the US media. Stand by today as there will be calls far and wide, by persons masquerading as political leaders, for measures to make sure something like this never happens again. That’s rich, isn’t it? Meanwhile, the same six a.m. headlines declared that S &P futures were up in the overnight markets. Nothing can faze this mad bull, apparently. Except maybe the $90 trillion combined derivatives books of CitiBank, JP Morgan, and Goldman Sachs, who have gone back whole hog into manufacturing the same kind of hallucinatory collateralized debt obligations (giant sacks of non-performing loans) that gave Wall Street a heart attack in the fall of 2008.

Europe’s quaint doings must seem dull compared to the suicidal potlatch of life in the USA, but, believe me, it’s a big deal when the Spanish authorities start cracking the heads of Catalonian grandmothers for nothing more than casting a ballot. The video scenes of mayhem at the Barcelona polls looked like something out of the 1968 Prague uprising. And now that the Catalonia secession referendum passed with a 90 percent “yes” vote, it’s hard to imagine that a good deal more violent mischief will not follow. So far, the European Union stands dumbly on the sidelines. (For details, read the excellent Roel Ilargi Meijer column on today’s TheAutomaticEarth.)

Next in the cavalcade of October traumas: the USA versus the nuclear weapons ambitions of North Korea. This has been ramping up all year, of course, but it looks to be headed for a climax now that the Golden Golem of Greatness is at the helm. Truly astounding, though, is America’s new method for conducting the most sensitive matters of foreign policy. The day after Secretary of State Rex Tillerson declared that his office was in contact with North Korean officials, the Secretary’s boss, You-Know-Who, tweeted out: “I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man.”

Could this possibly be a cleverly orchestrated good cop / bad cop effort to bamboozle Kim Jung-un? Or is the US government just completely dysfunctional? Or maybe something else is afoot. Under normal circumstances, Mr. Tillerson would just resign after such a gross insult, but we must suppose that a patriotic sense of duty compels him to remain in office in case the need suddenly arises in this witching month to run over Mr. Trump with the 25th amendment — the clause in the constitution that allows a consensus of a pretty small number of national political leaders to toss out a sitting president on the grounds of derangement and incompetence. Stay tuned on that one.

Finally — well, who knows what else may pop up now — there is the matter of Puerto Rico. Halloween there is not like New England, with our nippy fall mornings, steaming mugs of hot cider, and quickening fall color. It will remain 90-degrees-plus in the fetid, stinking ruins, with lots of still-standing water, broken communications, shattered supply lines, and very little electricity. FEMA and the US Military may be doing all they can now, but they must be on watch for the ominous blossoming of tropical disease epidemics. The story there is far from over. Trump travels there this week. That may be exactly the moment that the Deep State moves to take him down.

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527 Responses to “Fall of the Great Pumpkin”

  1. Graycenphil October 2, 2017 at 9:27 am #

    Imagine that – a coup, almost, while the president is out of the country (almost). Not likely, but these are interesting times.

    Lets not be a Holloween Scrooge though. The kids really love this holiday.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 10:31 am #

      “Out of the country,” indeed. If the people of Puerto Rico want Washington’s attention, they should steal a march from Catalonia. Maybe stop sending taxes there – that’ll get a rise out of ‘em, even if a humanitarian crisis won’t.

      • My Point of View October 2, 2017 at 11:08 am #

        If Puerto Rico wanted to get help or attention they need to:
        – Declare their independence from the USA
        – Seek to become a territory of Russia or Cuba and host their military
        – Refuse to pay their $84B debt to USA banks

        • capt spaulding October 2, 2017 at 11:24 am #

          Trump is only going there because he heard that the golf course in San Juan was untouched by the hurricane.

        • beantownbill. October 2, 2017 at 11:48 am #

          That would be immoral.

        • FallenHero October 2, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

          Hillary already tweeted about pro gun control and literally ‘make sure this never happens again’ sentiments.

          Los of confusion if this was a false flag, talk of guys in camo running from scene etc.

        • Epicur October 2, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

          I have worked in Puerto Rico. I know people from Puerto Rico who “immigrated” to the States, all from “old families” there.

          It is a beautiful place, but the population has outgrown the carrying capacity, given the culture of the people. The situation is not “fixable” at this time and this population level. It will be patched, but not repaired, then continue to deteriorate. Perhaps they will do well after the long emergency has run its course.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:10 pm #

        That’s rich! Their own teamsters are using the crisis to try to get a pay raise. And the Mayor is trying to use their strike as a way to get Trump. It’s a non-White banana republic. And White Leftists are no better since they think the same way and would use the same tactics when they can get away with them. Indeed, you all may have put her up to this.

  2. venuspluto67 October 2, 2017 at 9:33 am #

    It would probably take a pretty large succession of “Black Swan” events to fell this central-bank-driven Bull Market of pure hot air, at this point. Never underestimate the power of frantic, red-hot money-printing!

    • My Point of View October 2, 2017 at 11:09 am #

      Never underestimate the power of large groups of stupid people, i.e., how we got Trump….

      • venuspluto67 October 2, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

        Never underestimate the power of a society in steep socio-political decline, which is how we got Trump and Hillary as our choice in November 2016.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 2:18 pm #

          And Gay Marriage and Folsom Street Fair

      • Epicur October 2, 2017 at 4:29 pm #

        Trump’s election is a reaction by by people who are admittedly poorly educated and do not understand how the world works, but the reaction is to tremors in the house of cards that supposedly “intelligent” people have erected.

        That people return to older, more primitive values when they sense their culture coming apart should not surprise you. If it does, you have a problem.

        • messianicdruid October 2, 2017 at 7:50 pm #

          Two problems.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 6, 2017 at 9:02 am #

          You aren’t better educated than I am.
          How “educated” is it to return the same people to office that caused the problems?
          Not only caused them, but benefitted from them?
          I am educated enough to figure out that the Tea Party and the Occupiers were on the same side, and somebody went to a hell of a lot of trouble to keep them apart.

      • xxzzy999 October 5, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

        One can only speculate how much worse off we would be with Hildabeast as president!

  3. seawolf77 October 2, 2017 at 9:36 am #

    Messier than the usual Monday that’s for sure. Since the eclipse it’s been more fun than a barrel of monkeys. In my neighborhood it’s nothing but street after street of ugly little landfills in front of houses.

  4. MrTibbs October 2, 2017 at 9:36 am #

    Playing chicken with $80 trillion in derivatives is a bad idea, along with intercontinental ballistic missiles.

    However, the sad truth is the markets will continue to robo-trade with or without the existence of the masses of humanity.

    Sent From the New Republic.

    • ZrCrypDiK October 2, 2017 at 12:21 pm #

      To the sound, of ol’ T-Rex!!!


    • goat1001 October 2, 2017 at 1:52 pm #

      The markets will continue to robo-trade with or without the existence of the masses of humanity until they can’t.

  5. PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 9:37 am #

    Yesterday some friends of mine on FB posted something about “pushing Minnesota into Canada” LOL I don’t know how we can “push” our state into another country, but apparently ppl are trying

    🙂 ha ha

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    • TiredOfTheTreadmill October 2, 2017 at 9:41 am #

      Good idea if applied to Texas. Can we push it into Mexico already?

      Any country on Earth willing to let us push Alabama, complete with Roy Moore and his supporters, into it? Anybody? Anybody? Bueller?

      • DrTomSchmidt October 2, 2017 at 10:27 am #

        I’d keep Alabama in and Roy Moore too. He can serve as a point of orientation for left and right, the way Bernie Sanders is the “true north” of the left.

        • TiredOfTheTreadmill October 2, 2017 at 11:06 am #

          Maybe on Bernie Sanders being the true north of the left. I would argue that most Americans don’t really have a clue what a “true leftist” is, but most to the right of center (does a center even exist anymore?) Seem to think they know.

          • ZrCrypDiK October 2, 2017 at 1:29 pm #

            Bernie’s still a war hawk – $600 billion/yr (MOAR liek 1.7 $trillion$/heh)

        • Epicur October 2, 2017 at 3:03 pm #

          I’m from Alabama. I did not vote for Roy Moore, Donald Trump, or even George Wallace back when I had the chance, but I’d be happy to be separated from the Blue State idiots who started this nation careening towards the ditch in the 1960s.

          I do not deny that Alabama (like the rest of the South and much of the middle USA) is full of populists who love to be fed at the government teat, but at least if we were on our own it would be harder to mire ourselves into the irredeemable social obligations that our urban and urbane government has taken on.

          At least in Alabama enough people, rough though they are, are still rooted in the soil and know what “root, hog, or die” means. We’ll be here long after your cities have gone up in flames.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 10:37 am #

      We’ll happily accept them, along with the rest of your upper Midwest and northeast. Just wait till Canada completely encloses the Great Lakes and the St. Lawrence seaway – you’ll be crying in your beer. Great power status, here we come!

      • PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 11:08 am #


      • PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 11:11 am #

        As a joke I send my buddy in Saskatchewan all these pics I got of Canadian flags flying here in Minnesota. I didn’t realize how many there were! LOL geez they are everywhere here.

      • My Point of View October 2, 2017 at 11:13 am #

        Well, a better idea might be to just expel the deep south and let them have their confederate flags. Without the money blue states send them via unfair taxation their sorry red asses will be sucking wind in no time, begging for readmission, and vowing true love for affirmative action, gun control, full rights for GLBTQs, abortion on demand and medicare for everyone.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 11:27 am #

          My guess is, their sorry red asses would just tear whatever they felt like out of sorry black asses. It’s all they’ve wanted for the past 150 years: get back to business as usual.

          • sophia October 3, 2017 at 11:05 am #

            Virtue signaling.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 3, 2017 at 11:30 am #

            Virtue signaling costs nothing. Neither do cheap ripostes, such as accusing someone of virtue signaling. What matters is reality. When the rubber hits the road, Jim Crow will jump again. Mark my words.

        • Ghung October 2, 2017 at 12:15 pm #

          Meh,,, the deep south is just as full of carpet-bagger Yankees as it is of corn-pone Southerners.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 6, 2017 at 9:05 am #

            You forgot the Third World immigrants.
            An awful lot of Americans are stuck in the 1960s, I notice.

        • Epicur October 2, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

          “Without the money blue states send them via unfair taxation their sorry red asses will be sucking wind in no time,…”

          You need to check your figures a little more carefully. The, admitted, excess cash coming this way has three sources:
          1. Military bases that are located here because of climate.
          2. Retirement for people who have had enough sense to move south.
          3. Welfare that subsidizes programs that are not our choice.

          There are a few large cities that would hurt without them, also the Black Belt and Mississippi Delta (you can Google those terms) would have painful adjustments due to their large populations on the dole, but I don’t think the South would be begging.

          • capt spaulding October 2, 2017 at 10:37 pm #

            Data compiled by the Pew Charitable Trust found that 10 states that receive less than a dollar back foe every dollar that they send to Washington are: Delaware, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois, Ohio, Massachusetts, New York, and Rhode Island. States that get MORE than two dollars back for every one dollar in taxes paid are: Mississippi, New Mexico, W.Virginia, Hawaii, South Carolina, Alabama, Maine, Montana, Alaska, Virginia, Arizona, Idaho, Kentucky, and Vermont. You don’t have to be a genius to see the blue state/red state pattern here. Of course these could just be fake statistics put out by socialist losers who are trying to make the red states look bad.

      • PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 11:13 am #

        the other funny part is currency. We use Canadian currency interchangeably with US. I don’t know many other parts of the US that does that. Tourists will come up to me at the job I work at and go “we need different money” LOL cuz they can’t use Canadian dimes and nickels and etc where they live.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 11:28 am #

          Nice. If you’re ever in Detroit, go to Mexicantown restaurant on a Monday night: it’s Canadian-money-at-par night, or was the last time I checked. Sip a margarita.

      • DA October 2, 2017 at 11:35 am #

        Ahh jeez! Time to move to Minnesota then, eh! Save me spot!

        • PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 3:32 pm #

          LOLs there is plenty of room here, trust me. ha ha

      • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

        Upper Maine, Michigan, and maybe even New York are conservative and wouldn’t be interested. Probably other northern parts of northern states as well.

  6. pequiste October 2, 2017 at 9:49 am #

    On mornings such as this, I always remember, and long for, fresh from-the-cauldron apple cider doughnuts, bought at a quaint roadside market on Vermont’s scenic Route 2, at a little hamlet called South Hero. With a cup of fresh brewed n0-nonsense coffee: all is right with the world.

    The Champlain Islands route, with magnificent vistas of the great inland sea, Lake Champlain, caressed on the east by Vermont’s Green Mountains of Ethan Allen fame, and the mighty Adirondacks of The North Country, New York State, is no-doubt one of the most wonderful of the Leaf Peeper’s best trails to take in autumn’s finery.

    On the other hand, there is the astonishingly gorgeous Kancamagus Highway in New Hampshire. Maybe even better, especially in a convertible sports car. A crisp, sun-dappled, eyegasm. A Zen-like meditation on the contours and textures of the planet integrated to the perfection of nature’s riot of colours.

    The only problem is the White Mountains which it traverses. (Someone is going to have to do something about that rayciss, triggering nomenclature.)

    I can always escape to my own Sanctum Santorum (the space-between-the-ears) in times such as these; when the mere act of opening a web browser, glancing at a newspaper, or having to see a ubiquitous T.V. screen, can cause one to feel suicidal, homicidal and genocidal, within 15 seconds — and all at the same time.

    • PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 9:57 am #

      sounds nice! ya, the trees are getting pretty out there that’s for sure. I’d like to drive thru New England some day.

      • DrTomSchmidt October 2, 2017 at 10:29 am #

        Do it soon. Many of the species that contribute to the glorious colors are threatened. Red maples have surged, though, and they have nice leaves.

        • PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 10:58 am #

          ya, I should. I live in along the shores of Lake Superior in Northern Minnesota and our trees are about done changing already. Doesn’t take much in this part of the world. I like the brilliant red colors out there. Wow.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:15 pm #

          Nations are like leaves: they change color as they die.

          • seawolf77 October 2, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

            Then they come back in the spring brand new.

          • HowardBeale October 2, 2017 at 1:43 pm #

            @Seawolf: “Then they come back in the spring brand new.”

            The original color?

          • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 2:13 pm #

            Take your pick, Howard Beale:


          • messianicdruid October 2, 2017 at 8:00 pm #

            Have you noticed they are printing new currency [ dollars ] in brown?

    • daveed October 2, 2017 at 10:16 am #

      “The only problem is the White Mountains which it traverses. (Someone is going to have to do something about that rayciss, triggering nomenclature.)”

      Nice post. It’s clear that you love that beautiful part of the planet.
      But…. “rayciss”….is that the new, preferred, postmodern spelling of a much-abused word we’re all familiar with…..or just a typo? It does have a kind of panache.

    • Graycenphil October 2, 2017 at 10:28 am #

      Nice description Pequisite. It truly is gorgeous. Every year it seems like it just can’t get that spectacular, and then it does. We’re biking in upstate New York wednesday, and heading to northeast NH for a long weekend with no electricity, phones or internet. Kind of like practice for the Long Emergency.

      C’mon along. There’s plenty of room up there.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

        Not Without Peril – the classic book about people who got lost and froze to death in the White Mountains.

    • seawolf77 October 2, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

      It would look better on a Softail.

  7. SteveO October 2, 2017 at 10:00 am #

    “Nothing can faze this mad bull, apparently. Except maybe the $90 trillion combined derivatives books of CitiBank, JP Morgan, and Goldman Sachs, who have gone back whole hog into manufacturing the same kind of hallucinatory collateralized debt obligations (giant sacks of non-performing loans) that gave Wall Street a heart attack in the fall of 2008.”

    Sure does feel line 2005 again, doesn’t it?

    “History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes,” – Mark Twain

  8. daveed October 2, 2017 at 10:08 am #

    “The story there is far from over. Trump travels there this week. That may be exactly the moment that the Deep State moves to take him down.”

    Wow. Sinister, specific quasi-prediction from Mr. K.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:19 pm #

      One is reminded of Biden’s dark brooding about how they would test Obama and find that he has “a spine of steel”. Repeated several times until one journalist asked if he knew something the rest of us didn’t. Biden was enraged and asked who was giving her her questions.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 6, 2017 at 9:19 am #

      Some might say they’ve already moved.
      That shooting in Las Vegas has overtones of the JFK assassination. The killer went to meticulous lengths to plan this, only to kill himself at the end? It kind of looks as if he had help, maybe he believed he was getting out alive?
      Anyway, either our entire security apparatus is dumber than we thought, and had no clue that this was afoot, or they did know.
      Suddenly, the talk in the news turns to first, silencers (really stupid, but then again it came from Hillary), and now, bump stocks.
      Bump stocks? I thought they were talking about Wall Street. No, we are now obsessing over an obscure gun part, even before we have the whole story of what happened.
      That both branches of the Uniparty are talking about this suggests to me that this event had something to do with a preplanned push for gun control, and to blame the president for the shootings if he doesn’t go along.
      Chuck Schumer is piping up too. He’s the senator who threatened the President of the United States that he would sic the Deep State on him.
      Also the man with a very high level position in national security who had the Awan brothers working for him. That’s another story the MSM doesn’t want to cover.

  9. davidreese2 October 2, 2017 at 10:09 am #

    I don’t like Mr. Trump, I didn’t vote for him. But if the Deep State or anyone or anything else “takes him down,” it is going to tear this country apart like nothing else.

    • DA October 2, 2017 at 10:53 am #

      Could be exactly what they’re looking to do. Just imagine the possibilities!

      • outsider October 2, 2017 at 6:00 pm #

        I’ll still take Trump over Pence any day of the week. At least Trump is not boring.

        • DA October 3, 2017 at 7:27 am #

          Good point. Speculation has it that Pence is actually a ventriloquist dummy. I’m still reviewing the evidence.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 6, 2017 at 9:20 am #

        That’s why they want to collect the guns in advance.

  10. sprawlcapital October 2, 2017 at 10:21 am #

    The alarm went off at 5:30 this morning. A few minutes later, I heard my wife, in the living room looking at her computer, saying repeatedly, “Oh my God!”

    Then she told me about the massacre in Las Vegas. Based on her level of agitation I said, “I thought Trump dropped an atom bomb.” I was serious. Such is the state of our world.

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    • seawolf77 October 2, 2017 at 10:33 am #

      That is too funny.

      • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 10:40 am #

        Couldn’t you just die?

        • sprawlcapital October 2, 2017 at 11:31 am #

          That terrible, terrible Mr. Trump. Such a SAVAGE!! Who knew?? I could just DIE!

          • DA October 2, 2017 at 11:49 am #

            I think he was talking to Wolfey, but who knows?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:21 pm #

          He is your son. You created people like him and you will be judged by his attitudes and deeds. He is your Trayvon.

    • Bro Jobe October 2, 2017 at 10:38 am #

      Pretty soon it will require a mushroom cloud to get anyone’s attention. To quote Trump, sad. Sad.

  11. K-Dog October 2, 2017 at 10:26 am #

    What homeowner in this sore-beset floundering economy of three-job gig-workers can shell out four thousand bucks to decorate his lawn like the set of a zombie movie?

    Four thousand seems a bit much. But a large 10 foot inflatable Kim Jung-un lit from inside along with a matching inflatable Trump also lit form inside would be worth $19.95 each. Another twenty bucks for a glowing half scale missile would do it for me. Maybe two missiles, one with a painted American flag and one with a big red star. No more than that since these would not be perennial offerings. Neither Jung or Trump might be around in a year from now so such inflatables might not work out for Halloween next year. Ghosts and goblins would be a better investment but less fun.

    A lawn setup with inflatable people dropping dead and a shooter on the roof in a clown costume would also be a pretty interesting display. That one could get pretty involved, but four thousand should be more than enough. When the display was done it would kick ass over any half sized T-Rex setup for sure.

    A pirate display could not be more scary though you could have one pirate trying to grab pussy accompanied by weak screams of protest as a sound effect. The pirate could look like Trump. If that causes any neighborhood distress just have a wench being chased around in a circle carry a big plate of food so the kiddies think that is what the pirate wants Do it like Disney did.

    • DA October 2, 2017 at 10:55 am #

      See now, K-Dog? That’s getting into the spirit of things! Good work!

      • K-Dog October 2, 2017 at 11:33 am #

        If you could get such inflatables having your neighbors across the street getting a Trump US missile combination while you get a Kim-Jung-Un Red Star missile setup would be pretty cool. Do the whole street. Even addresses buy Kim, odd addresses buy Trump. At midnight we fill all the missiles with helium and let them go. I could be a community organizer and make it happen. Then I’ll also be qualified to be our next president if we survive long enough to have one. We may as well go to the dogs since we already are anyway.

        Overall a shooter setup would make the better display. Have the little kiddies earn their chocolate and gummy bears.

        A mechanical inflatable shooter scans the yard with a big inflatable gun and sound effects with flashing LED lights to make it seem he is shooting. It will of course be a he; identity politics have not yet infected the mass shooter crowd so we don’t have gender equality in mayhem performances or any Cis-Shooters yet. Give it time.

        A few cardboard people falling over in time to a soundtrack while kiddies walk to the door would be mission accomplished. Some kiddies might even earn chocolate by having chocolate in their pants by the time they get to your door and remember why they are there.

        Neighbors could compete by trying to have the most cardboard victims on the block. Cardboard victims will pop back up between visits from kiddies using fishing line. Fishing line can also be rigged to make the victims fall down Electronics can also be used.

        As yard displays are really all about status and competition between neighbors this idea could really catch on.

        • DA October 2, 2017 at 11:52 am #

          The canine force is strong in you! You are no doubt the alpha-dog of your pack!

          • sprawlcapital October 2, 2017 at 11:58 am #

            You’re on a roll, Mr. Dog,

            Cis-Shooters . . . [I believe you mean Trans-. Cis is normal, as I understand it. Although in a few years. Trans- may be normal.]

        • pequiste October 2, 2017 at 1:57 pm #

          Your “Dark humour” is somehow twistedly appealing and appreciated K-Dog…

          yet I cannot but think that a front yard full of polystyrene skulls and skeletons, blood dripping from the mouths of plastic zombies, and all the other paraphernalia of our combined Walpurgisnacht/All Hallows Eve celebrations, here in the P.S.A (Psychotic States of America,) display the long-term effects of desensitization to media violence of our Culture.

          How many films have unlimited gratuitous machine gun fire?

          How many “kid” video games have unlimited bag limits on humans?

          Care to listen to some “classic” Megadeth or Slipknot and tell me that that musick (sic) is not pathological and on many levels?

          Funny about a family’s yard displays (which always are reflective and reflexive.) The sociopathy of our particular civilization and the type and amount of individual expression are free for the viewing. No Freudian, Skinnerian or Jungian analyst is needed (at $200 a session.) Some neighbors give enough clues as to their nastiness without the Halloween decorations. Then there are those with the full blessing of American popular/consumer culture, giving the green light to putrid fantasies run amuck. There are some displays that look like a cross between the Killing Fields of Pol Pot’s Cambodia; Hutu versus Tutsi in Rwanda and a trip with the Einsatzgruppen on the Eastern Front.

          How I lament that a simple carved lit Jack-o-lantern on the porch with a nice razor-in-the-apple for the trick-or-treaters just does not cut it anymore.

    • My Point of View October 2, 2017 at 11:21 am #

      Dog, if you have each of those missiles jammed into the butt crack of the two clowns that would make the right statement.

      • K-Dog October 2, 2017 at 11:40 am #


        Should they be jamming their missiles into each other’s butt-cracks or should they just be jamming their missiles up their own asses?

        I think having them trying to shove their missiles up their own asses reflects actual truth but since this is a display for public consumptions we can’t be to artsy about it. The stooges need to be reaching around each other and trying to give it too the other guy.

        • K-Dog October 3, 2017 at 3:46 am #

          Not to put too fine a point on it.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 6, 2017 at 9:25 am #

      Where I live it is the brown-skinned immigrants who go to town with the Christmas lights.
      Such things are not available in the places they came from, evidently.
      It is mildly annoying that they have enough disposable income to spend on this stuff, even though they have the same crappy employment opportunities as the natives, but maybe they don’t. Maybe they run up credit card debt, which is one of the reasons we bring so many immigrants here, to keep the debt slave rackets going.

  12. Walter B October 2, 2017 at 10:27 am #

    “to make sure something like this never happens again”

    Rich indeed Jim, or maybe poor, or even better pathetic. But that is how it works today in the land of Happy Happy where nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Hey, whose playing on Monday Night Football tonight? There’s the ticket, why worry, why care all you have to do is send your $20 donation to the people of Puerto Rico in care of the Clinton Foundation then head down to Home Depot and pick up a few grand worth of plastic skeleton dinosaurs and zombies for the lawn and have a party. Better yet, just put your kids staring into their Tippy Taps there instead. If any of us would have stood up and predicted that in the year 2017 America would have degenerated into the shithole mess that it is today back in 1962 we would have either been beaten to death or institutionalized. The horror, the horror…..

    • ozone October 2, 2017 at 11:05 am #

      Walter B.,
      I hear you there; the degeneration has been surprisingly swift (as The Long Emergency gains forward momentum).

      It might behoove us to remember that violence is a perfectly acceptable method of problem-solving in the good ol’ USofA. (…And always has been.) Hollywood, Madison Ave., and Big-Time sporting concerns/events have seen, understood and ramped it up. Glorification and portrayal of violence is a money-maker of immense dimensions. When does the docu-drama of the Las Vegas Lone Geezer come out, hmmm?

      I wonder what sort of crack-downs will ensue from this particular “incident”. What response was there to the University of Texas Tower shooting? I mention this as a “then-and-now” comparative kinda thang for gauging the drift of the ‘Murkin zeitgeist.

      Addendum: God and Prayer, sez Cheeto von Tweeto. Good luck with that folks. (Personally I don’t think that will fix/change shit or the ancient compound of Shinola*.)

      *COMPLETELY out of context, aside from a bid’nez reference, there’s a high-end, luxury brand out there named, “Shinola”; I shit you not. Better pray harder, ’cause no one knows the meaning or [recent] historical relation of anything anymore. Heck of a job, Frank Luntz, you self-satified, amoral prick…

      • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 11:34 am #

        They found a tumour in Charles Whitman’s brain after that shooting. I mention that because the brother of the Las Vegas shooter claims to be astonished at his brother’s behaviour and completely unprepared for it, which at least suggests an organic cause needs to be ruled out. Then again, the Batman shooter didn’t have anything as obvious as a brain tumour, though it still seems mental illness played a role there. We’ll likely never know.

      • DA October 2, 2017 at 11:56 am #

        Rampaging Geezers! Now there’s a meme that’s got legs! And I’ll turn 60 this year too, just in time to catch the cultural wave as it comes in! SURF’S UP GEEZERS! Last one in the water’s a snot-nosed kid!

      • DA October 2, 2017 at 12:01 pm #


        Marketing pitch: Why settle for just plain old shit, when for only a few grand more you can have genuine Shinola?

        • ozone October 2, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

          LOL! Perfect. (Regarding marketing pitch.)

          • DA October 2, 2017 at 12:47 pm #

            Almost went into marketing. I think it would have been my true calling.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:25 pm #

        Shooting up a country music concert? Who goes to such things? Conservative Whites. The shooter was probably one of yours: an Anarcho-Leftist. Beyond that, the Anti-Fa have threatened revolution come November. Time to declare them a terrorist group don’t you think?

        • sophia October 3, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

          The question we need to solve is who, exactly, owns and controls the media?

          • Janos Skorenzy October 3, 2017 at 10:33 pm #


          • Beryl of Oyl October 6, 2017 at 9:30 am #

            I saw that mayor of San Juan, with the eyewear so ugly it is most likely expensive designer label, lying her face off about the US government’s response to the hurricane. Nobody asked her where she got the brand new custom printed tee shirt.
            Then I happened to see on CBS news, days later, they were talking about this wretch as if she were the savior of her people.
            I’d like to know who is responsible for this state of affairs, exactly who, as well.
            And why do all the reporters go along with it?

      • Walter B October 2, 2017 at 5:47 pm #

        I have spent a lot of time in the last few years with the Lieutenant that runs our County’s SWAT Team and provides training in the “Active Shooter” events for our CERT Teams and our government. He has stated many times that the FBI is very tight lipped about details on the statistics that come out of these events but there are two stats that they always seem to bring out and that is that the shooters are almost always white and male. I speculated to him that perhaps targeting firearms is not the real agenda behind the progressive’s movement but targeting white males instead. “There certainly ARE those doing exactly that” he replied. the question is how many and how successful they will be. You can call “Conspiracy Theorist” all you want but when you really understand history and look at it honestly, conspiracies have always been the way of those who lust for change. Revolutionaries always target the group or groups that hold the most assets, so that the plunder funds their movement. There are countless examples throughout history that support this fact. Only stupid street criminals target the poor. Those creating trouble in America today have all read Rules for Radicals, and they are enacting their plan quite well.

        • sophia October 3, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

          Yeah, I’ve been asking myself who wants this race war. Well, one is that whoever the nefarious ones are, they seem to have very malevolent intent, another one is simply that in the race to irrelevancy, the democratic party seems to be in the lead. Since they sold out, they really have nothing to offer the masses, and the masses are starting to see that, including blacks. Their margins of winning are quite small, therefore they need to hold onto the black vote so they are ramping up the sense of injustice in their various little victim groups. The black race they already destroyed with the welfare state, and now they are coming for the whites. So yes, a war on white males whose females don’t want them to be men, and generalized guilt so that they can’t stand up to racial nonsense.

          And as for the left in general, I am now seeing it as a mental disorder. Part of this disorder is that they are immature and require discipline, to be put in their place when there’s nothing to really whine about. Because it is spiraling into finer and finer distinctions of complaints until we have reached the current impasse of punishing people for thought crimes.

          It’s a lot like red tape in workplaces and institutions that police things like OSHA. They can’t just say everything is okey dokey, they’ve got to come up with violations. Same with the left. They have no deeper meaning in life I guess, and they can’t stop agitating even though the reasons for the agitation are actually long since solved. We got the vote, you can’t discriminate in the workplace, etc. They should have all gone home and just lived their lives 30 years ago.

          Ditto for blacks. The entire white nation has bent over backwards for 50 years to right wrongs, put lots of blacks in visible respectable public positions and in the movie and TV industry, given preferential treatment (privilege) in hiring and in getting into college, and made all overt discrimination illegal. Meanwhile, most whites really harbor little racism, and what there is has little to no overt expression. Time to get on with your lives and quit worrying about whitey. Other groups do it.

          • Walter B October 3, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

            “Sophia (?????, Greek for “wisdom”) is a central idea in Hellenistic philosophy and religion, Platonism, Gnosticism, orthodox Christianity, Esoteric Christianity, and Christian mysticism. Sophiology is a philosophical concept regarding wisdom.”

            Apparently right on say what? One of the things that too many seem to have forgotten is that when it comes to violence and murderous revolution, the left has a long line of Nazis, Bolsheviks, and Jacobins to its credit, or rather lack thereof. It is high time that the Liberals, who should, in theory stand for tolerance and freedom, distance themselves and publically decry the violent , progressive uber-leftists. Murder as a means to an end should have NO place in a civilized society even if the Clintons believe otherwise.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 4, 2017 at 10:46 am #

            Hey, Walter B. As a leftist, I couldn’t agree with you more that violence is bad, both fundamentally and as a path to social change in particular. I align myself with Chris Hedges’ rejection of the violent tactics of some on the left, and his observation that the left squanders its moral authority when it embraces such tactics. I categorically reject and condemn violence, and urge all who share the noble cause of anti-fascism to leave the low road to the low.

            That said, uh, Nazis were and are not a leftist movement. Seriously, WTF?

          • Walter B October 4, 2017 at 8:26 pm #

            Sorry Elrond but the Nazi party was the National Socialist Party, read it an weep….


            Distorting history only works on those that do not know history in the first place.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 4, 2017 at 9:54 pm #

            Please be serious, Walter B; ‘gotcha’ games are a bad look. The NSDAP was a hysterically nationalistic organization, and Hitler’s project was Germany’s aggrandizement at all costs, including all moral costs. National “Socialism” was about purchasing political allegiance along national (German) lines, not about class solidarity.

            Actual socialism, on the other hand, was an international movement. (Hint: that’s why its organizations were referred to as internationals.) The left-wing values of actual socialism are those of solidarity and mutual support across lines of class and nation, both of which were crimethink to the Nazis and landed German socialists and communists in death camps.

            The “socialist” part of National Socialism was a cynical, racist marketing exercise to exploit the popularity of actual socialism. The Nazi party was ‘socialist’ in the same way that the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, or the late German Democratic Republic, are/were democratic. To equivocate on this point is to abuse language.

          • Walter B October 4, 2017 at 11:38 pm #

            I’ll give you the last word my friend, I know it is important to you.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 6, 2017 at 9:35 am #

            Sophia, I find that most black Americans have done just that.
            Bear in mind, it is the white owned media that elevates someone like Al Sharpton to a position of, I don’t know what to call it, maybe artificial relevance?
            They want whites blaming blacks for blaming whites.

  13. Ghung October 2, 2017 at 10:28 am #

    Not surprisingly, gun stocks up this morning. Sturm Ruger and Smith & Wesson both up over 5% as I type.
    The insanity of a rapidly failing society ……

    • Bro Jobe October 2, 2017 at 10:37 am #

      Great. I want to buy a GP100 revolver and Ruger will probably jack up prices now…

      • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 10:47 am #

        3D print a serial-free handgun at home with the latest Ghost Gunner update
        Refinements in hardware and software allow the tiny CNC mill to create pistols.


        “Three years ago, Cody Wilson and his organization, Defense Distributed, released a $1,200 computer-numerically-controlled (CNC) mill called the Ghost Gunner. The machine essentially made home gunsmithing faster, cheaper, and more portable than ever before, but it had a limited scope (no pun intended). Initially, the Ghost Gunner only aimed (OK, maybe some pun intended) to complete unfinished lower receivers for AR-15 semi-automatic rifles.

        “Today, that scope widens: Wilson and Defense Distributed are now in the handgun business, too.

        “Defense Distributed will offer two of the most common handgun ‘80 percent’ receivers—for Glocks and single-stack M1911s—for interested customers to complete using the Ghost Gunner. “What we’ve done for ARs we’re going to do for handguns now,” Wilson tells Ars. Defense Distributed’s store now carries new fixtures, frames, and tooling to create these two handguns, in addition to its previously offered AR-15 lower receivers and jig sets.”

        Buying guns? That’s so last week…

        • Jigplate October 2, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

          Back in my youth, ( early 80’s) I spent some years as a CNC programmer. I even worked for a gun manufacturer turning out copies of 1911 45’s. The CNC process is little different today, except that the capacity for off the shelf cheap machines has sky rocketed and looks like it cannot be stopped

        • Bro Jobe October 2, 2017 at 1:19 pm #

          Ever seen a firearm fail? Printing guns…that’s so “oh, I blew off a chunk of my head when the receiver came apart.”

          Old-school steel firearms, please, maybe some high-quality polymers. Accept no substitutes.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

            We’re living in the golden age of information, Bro Jobe. They can’t stop people from pirating movies despite digital rights management, and they won’t be able to stop people machining their own guns either. And for the same reason: it only takes one person to solve the problem one time, and it’s solved for everyone forever.

            The Internet is a big place, and there will be plenty of people willing to be (inadvertent) guinea pigs. The kinks will get worked out of this technology one totally unforeseeable accident at a time.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 3, 2017 at 11:37 am #

            Something I should have remembered the first time around: The real reason to make your own guns isn’t about safety, it’s to foil identification. The lower receiver is considered the actual gun for legal purposes, and it’s what bears the serial number. These CNC-milled homicide instruments aren’t for the safety-minded; they’re for the law enforcement-minded. Someone manufacturing these guns isn’t necessarily looking to use them themselves; they’re likely selling to people either too dumb or too out of control to care about their own safety, let alone others’.

  14. Bro Jobe October 2, 2017 at 10:36 am #

    As much as I hate Trump, I love hearing “Little Rocket Man” bandied about. It exposes the evil-clown nature of NK leadership.

    What if Kim tweeted at Trump with a similar slur? JHK’s “Golden Golem” comes to mind as a possibility.

    As for Las Vegas? With our system so broken, what can be done? The guy was using a full-auto weapon, too, not what the media mislabel an “assault rifle.” Machineguns are hard to get legally and very expensive, so I’m curious about how he obtained one and what his motives were.

    What will the Left do if the guy is a crazed anti-Trumpite?

    • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 10:51 am #

      Odds are against that, though not impossible, as that turd who shot up a Congressional softball game showed.

      Not sure what I personally would do, other than condemn the violence in the strongest possible terms. Oh, and call for serious gun control in the USA, up to and including repeal of the second amendment.

      • DA October 2, 2017 at 10:58 am #

        Not sure what I personally would do, other than condemn the violence in the strongest possible terms. Oh, and call for serious gun control in the USA, up to and including repeal of the second amendment.

        Don’t ask for much, do you? That’ll never happen.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 11:35 am #

          Hint: if you wanna move a boulder, use something stronger than just your fingers.

          • DA October 2, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

            This is the US we’re talking about here, right?

          • seawolf77 October 2, 2017 at 12:07 pm #

            You could use the force. Do. Or do not. There is no try.

        • Piper Michael October 2, 2017 at 3:42 pm #

          “An armed society, is a polite society.
          –Robert Heinlein

          How do you stop a bad guy with a gun?
          Answer: A good guy with a gun…

          So, Mr Scientology, how, pray tell, would you ‘get the guns’ from all the bad guys?

          Oh, I know, forced ‘clearing sessions’, at our own expense?

          (Elrond Hubbard… L.Ron. Hubbard, dead asshole who wrote Dianetics, I finally made the connection about that name…)

          • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

            “The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation’s history. I mean in this century’s history. But we all lived in this century. I didn’t live in this century.” — Dan Quayle

            Q: “I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read … to stay informed and to understand the world?” A: “I’ve read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media. Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years.” — Sarah Palin

            “A cliché quote proves absolutely nothing.” — Me

            I’m not trying to “get the guns” from people. I’m trying to undo the fearmongering that tells people they are in danger every. Single. Second, and that guns are the solution.

            How? Among other things, by pointing out that the real-world chances of being harmed by someone with a gun are actually not that big a deal. “In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens), and 33,636 deaths due to ‘injury by firearms’ (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens).” (source)

            By comparison, in 2002 people worldwide were dying from measles at just about the same rate (9.8 people per 100,000). (source) Weirdly, though, no one demands the right to walk around with a syringe of vaccine to protect themselves. No one lives in fear of cirrhosis of the liver, even though slightly more people (12.6 per 100K) die from it. Traffic accidents killed nearly twice as many people (19.1 per 100K), but people still ride in cars and even walk next to them on the sidewalk. The real killer is cardiovascular disease, which kills 25 times more people than violence of all kinds — but no one lives in fear that McDonald’s is going to jump out and get them.

            It’s cool. Chances are, you’ll be fine without a gun. Like I said, I’m not trying to “get the guns”; I’m just trying to talk people down from the ledge.

          • Walter B October 3, 2017 at 8:07 am #

            It is infantile to suggest that making anything illegal will eliminate any problems and extremely aggravating when foreigners try to dictate policy to people in other countries. Making drugs “illegal” really worked well didn’t it? The wars on poverty, and terror are pretty successful too right? The time for civilian populations that take no part whatsoever in the process of government has come to really just STFU and stop whining for more contributions to the Welfare for Lawyer system which solves NOTHING! Machetes, cars, and bombs and pressure cookers will be your next outlawing cries and once again nothing will change. These things are happening for two reasons and they are that the government of this country is completely and totally corrupt and dysfunctional and the enough of the population realizes that it has NO hope. In fact, it has gone past the point of no hope and into desperation. The only thing that can be made to be illegal that would stand a chance to stop these damned shootings is white males and I do believe that it will come to that one day. I am just about ready for it too and I hope they start with me.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 3, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

            Am I a foreigner? Technically, yes. On the other hand, Northrop Frye pointed out that Canadians are Americans — just ones who happened to reject the revolution. I’m quite confident that I understand U.S. culture as well as 99+% of Americans, and that my political values are shared by a major constituency of the U.S. as well. Frankly, you guys are our environment — we need to keep up with what’s going on down south of the border out of self-interest.

            As for making things illegal: laws ultimately are expressions of the norms and values of a community. That’s my real agenda: the norms and values. Address those, and the laws will follow. America’s gun culture is an expression of a set of values that took hold in the old South and penetrated north from there: violence is good, a man’s honour is sacred, and a real man is prepared to use violence at the drop of a hat.

            And that’s exactly the crescendo that your post builds to. You hope they start with you? You mean, you would welcome finding meaning for your life in a spasm of redemptive violence, and going out in a blaze of glory. Many’s the gunman who shared this hope and unlike you, actually went through with it. So seriously do millions of people take this storyline that they follow it blindly into the very valley of havoc, fear and death they claim to want to protect themselves from. The real solution to America’s gun problem isn’t more guns: it’s to reject redemptive violence as a value, and guns as the totem of that value.

          • daveed October 3, 2017 at 9:02 pm #

            “(Elrond Hubbard… L.Ron. Hubbard, dead asshole who wrote Dianetics, I finally made the connection about that name…)”

            No, I don’t think you get it. And never will, sorry. But don’t shoot me.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:28 pm #

        Completely Anti-American Statist eager to fulfill the shooter’s dream while pretending to be against him.

        • sophia October 3, 2017 at 12:51 pm #

          Walter you are one sick bastard and furthermore, you’ve taken your eye off the ball. Sigh. So you think white males are genetically evil? You racist. Sigh. I hope you and we all don’t get to find out how untrue that is.

          • Walter B October 3, 2017 at 1:36 pm #

            I hope you are kidding there Sophia because I was speaking facetiously. I happen to be an old white male myself and am getting tired of hearing how we are the bad guys, that’s all.

          • daveed October 3, 2017 at 9:10 pm #

            Misunderstandings aside, It would appear that you two pixies are on the same page.

      • Jigplate October 2, 2017 at 1:47 pm #

        the most popular rifle in America is the semi-auto AR-15. There are literally millions of them in circulation. any serious effort to restrict private gun ownership will produce a result that will make the left’s disregard for immigration law look like ignoring a parking ticket. An interesting omission by the MSM is the massive non-compliance for recent semi-auto restrictions in NY, CT and CA. There are hundreds of thousands of otherwise law-abiding people who have simply said “no I wont”

        • Q. Shtik October 2, 2017 at 5:00 pm #

          any serious effort to restrict private gun ownership will… – jigplate


          By pure happenstance, this past Friday I started the process of applying for a Firearms Purchaser ID card and hand gun purchase permit. There are 2 fees totaling $7.00. You have to provide names, addresses and phone numbers of two ‘reputable’ people who know you well. These people are sent a questionnaire about you.

          I learned that NJ has one of, if not the most, stringent set of rules and procedures concerning handgun purchase and transport (‘concealed carry’). They require pictures of yourself. Also finger prints done by an outfit named Indentogo. My appointment is for Oct 12 and costs $52.69.

          I had a conversation with one of our local police officers and asked what kind of gun the force uses…it’s a Glock 40. I asked for advice on what I should get and he suggested a Glock 9mm with a clip that holds 10 bullets. I think that is the limit unless you are a security professional. He told me about a couple of firing ranges where I can learn to fire the gun and practice periodically.

          If BackRowHeckler (aka Marlin) has any advice for me I’d appreciate hearing it. For example, Marlin, is there any advantage or disadvantage to buying a used vs new gun? Are used guns significantly cheaper?

          • elysianfield October 2, 2017 at 7:25 pm #

            Permit me to suggest a revolver…Smith&Wesson, 38 Spl. 4″ barrel, should cost no more than $250 used for a good one. If you do not now own a gun, you do not want an automatic…a revolver is the proper choice…the safer choice.

            On another note…the shooter in Las Vegas was an ex-accountant. I know they call economics the “dismal science”, but accounting might come in a close second in regards to that description?

          • Doc Holliday October 2, 2017 at 11:50 pm #

            Elysianfield, he cannot own an ‘automatic’ unless he has big bucks and the nod from the proper authorities. I am certain you meant semi-auto. An important distinction….

          • Walter B October 3, 2017 at 8:42 am #

            When I bought a pistol 30 years ago I chose a S & W .44 magnum revolver since a pistol is just a weapon to use to fight your way back to your rifle, It is a wonderful handgun. I do not believe that it is important to have more rounds in the weapon since shootouts are situations t avoid at all costs anyway. I have found that I can reload with speed loaders just as fast as with magazine fed pistols. Besides, speed in reloading or speed in spraying lead only leaves you out of ammunition far faster. If any of us were in positions where we had to stop a direct frontal assault by masses of bad guys, we would only need one bullet anyway. A rifle is a far better firearm and everyone should have a .3006 or a .308 with a scope and an automatic 12 gauge shotgun. Arming yourself with such weapons will allow you to put food on the table at least until the game runs out. In the event of a large scale disaster when the law enforcement is far too busy with the problems in the cities to help you out in the hinterlands, wandering bands of those with bad intent can be deal with if they show up looking for trouble. Self defense IS still legal, at least for now.

            If you live in a city of course, I cannot see the need for any weapons of any kind. Your Tippy Tap can be used to dial 911, and if the systems are too busy you can always utilize the flashlight to blind any attackers or at least video your demise for You Tube should your Tippy Tap be found later. In fact if you live in a big city, weapons are already illegal aren’t they? How that working to curb your violence there New York, Chicago, Detroit? Yup not too well eh?

          • ozone October 3, 2017 at 10:28 am #

            I highly recommend the Charter Arms .44 Bulldog. (Yes, I have fired one.) Easily concealed, nice machining, amazing punch and surprisingly accurate for a snub-nosed (3″ barrel) pistol. Didn’t find the kick bad at all, and I like to shoot one-handed; less chance of blowback burn with a revolver from accidental 2-handed mishandling. (Just let it “come up” a little; target re-acquisition is really fast and intuitive with this “tiny” 5-shot.) 20 oz. Not cheap, but as you know, sometimes you really do get what you pay for.

            As Walter B sez:
            “If any of us were in positions where we had to stop a direct frontal assault by masses of bad guys, we would only need one bullet anyway.”

          • elysianfield October 3, 2017 at 10:54 am #

            Thanks for the heads-up. I used to collect NFA weapons, and at one time had 29 of them. Discussing handguns, the meaning was clear, but I understand your distinction.

      • elysianfield October 2, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

        “Oh, and call for serious gun control in the USA, up to and including repeal of the second amendment.”

        I would like to offer the opinion that hockey players are all fags, and those who appreciate the game gay-curious. They should ban hockey…it’s the right thing to do…and will help in our fight against AIDS…aids kills more than guns….

        Please stick to your own Goddamn side of the fence….

        • Elrond Hubbard October 3, 2017 at 12:20 pm #

          Nah. Not only is free speech is a fundamental human right, but this closed circle of confirmation bias needs my little ray of sunshine. You will thank me later.

          • Walter B October 3, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

            More like a warm piss stream than ray of sunshine IMHO, but thanks anyway.

          • sophia October 3, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

            No longer a fundamental right in Canada.

        • Doc Holliday October 4, 2017 at 4:40 pm #

          Elysian, I frequently hear the news media make references such as “heavy duty machine guns” that have extra capacity “clips” and refer to two 50 round boxes of “bullets” as an arsenal. If they do not understand the jargon, they cannot successfully attempt to slant the conversation. If you had 29 NFA weapons, you either had big bucks or the proper bureaucratic connections. I would hate to have that much ‘official’ attention.

          • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 11:12 am #

            Not big bucks, but could afford them in the mid-80’s when they were reasonable…before the ’86 restrictions. Never had any overt official attention from the BATF…Sold the last six NFA’s I had in fall of 2000, just before they tripled in value….

            No bureaucratic connections. Just obeyed the law, jumped through all the hoops.

            American 180
            1918 BAR
            H&K G3
            Uzi 9 mm
            Thompson M1 military issue

      • sophia October 3, 2017 at 12:45 pm #

        I guess I’ll have to send you to hell with Thwack. You liberals are so gullible. Oh, perhaps I’m nuts, but I regard these as all false flags. Maybe one or two aren’t. People are so easy to deceive!

        • sophia October 3, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

          Oh, geez, that was for Elrond.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 3, 2017 at 4:12 pm #

          It’s not nuts to regard real-world events that challenge one’s world view as “false flags”, Sophia. It’s just a total retreat from seriousness. Why deal with the complexities, ambiguities and antinomies of the real world, when the words “false flag” are always right there to make you feel better? Conspiracy theories turn our prejudices into strengths.

          “Gullible”, you say? First of all, I’m not a liberal — liberals live well to the right of me. Second, there are people on this blog who repeat falsehoods as harmful as the idea that vaccines cause autism; as scurrilous as the bogus Protocols of the Elders of Zion; and as ridiculous as the idea that comets run on electricity. (Hey there, JimInFlorida!) And you call me gullible? You need to do better than that.

          • sophia October 3, 2017 at 9:15 pm #

            One of the annoying traits of you lefties is that you imagine motives to others who function differently than you and in a way you don’t understand. And yes, I know you’re a far leftie, I just use the word liberal in the colloquial sense, even though a true liberal would now be rather conservative. It’s not me who has trouble expanding my worldview judging by the list of mainstream ideas you quote.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 4, 2017 at 11:05 am #

            You say I’m attributing motives to others who function differently from me. I am aware that others function differently from me; I just don’t see why that should stop me from expressing my own view.

            Given that that’s your response, though, I’m also at a loss as to what you actually meant by “false flag” if you weren’t talking conspiracy theories. The term has a specific meaning: an attack, or other action, which the actor intends to be attributed to someone other than themselves. That makes calling something a “false flag” a conspiracy theory by definition, even if it happens to be true which is far from established in this case.

            More than anything, I suspect that what annoys you about me just as much as my politics is that I’m committed to facts and evidence, and you’re not equipped to compete.

    • outsider October 2, 2017 at 6:11 pm #

      I’ve heard that the shooter was a high roller with a diamond card or something. Maybe he lost his fortune playing craps. Anyone who loses thousands at a casino could be a ticking time bomb.

      • Epicur October 2, 2017 at 6:25 pm #

        Very good point, and likely to play a role when it all sorts out.

        • messianicdruid October 2, 2017 at 8:39 pm #

          Must have known he was a loser way ahead of time.

      • Walter B October 3, 2017 at 9:41 am #

        Maybe they should make gambling illegal, right Elrond?

        • Elrond Hubbard October 3, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

          I’m all for Nevada making gambling illegal. That would push tourist dollars to other destinations, including the ones in my home province that remit lots of revenue to the Ontario government. Most of the money comes from across the border anyway, so we get your money, you keep the social problems, and we laugh all the way to the bank. What’s not to like?

          • Walter B October 3, 2017 at 1:43 pm #

            Those who constantly call for more laws against this and then that eventually burn books and single out unsuitables to be genocided, you know like Baby Seals? Tell me my friend how exactly do you contribute to your society besides TippyTapping here below the Frost Line anyway?

      • Beryl of Oyl October 6, 2017 at 9:41 am #

        Such a man would be a good choice, should someone decide to really stir things up.
        It looks to me like the ticking time bomb had help.
        Just because they do things like that in other countries, doesn’t mean the CIA would do it here, right?

  15. chuckyzfr1 October 2, 2017 at 10:39 am #

    I read the news of events in Las Vegas at around 5:40 this morning. Then I watched some videos. Unreal. From the sounds of it, the madman was shooting an M16 into the crowd. Definitely fully automatic…I could clearly hear the distinctive sound of those awful little .22 rounds zipping about in the crowd and it gave me a sickening feeling in my stomach. I can’t fathom what could be so wrong in a persons brain that would compel them to do such a thing. I guess you could make conjecture about all sorts of anomie brought on by the deterioration of our collective society, but I just can’t imagine why a 64-year-old man would perpetrate such a terroristic, cowardly, despicable act.

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    • Sean Coleman October 2, 2017 at 11:39 am #

      Knowing nothing about this incident, but following precedent, my guess is drugs, probably illegal (marijuana) but possibly legal.

      • DA October 2, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

        Dunh Dunh DUNH!!! KILLER WEED!!!

      • ozone October 2, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

        …Which just goes ta show ya that you obviously know zippedy-do-dah-squat about that particular drug and its effects. (Especially when we’re talking inhibitions.) Unless twinned with copious amounts of alcohol or other “un-inhibiting” drugs, your guess is probably as wrong as wrong can be. …And this “precedent” of which you speak is most likely signified and spouted by organizations that have authoritarian agendas. Also known as damn lies, spread by damn liars for the manufacturing of consent. (Although I’m wondering if you’re being serious or not here.)

        • Sean Coleman October 2, 2017 at 4:28 pm #

          Well for starters most of the Islamic murderers were drug users, mostly cannabis. It is safe to say that those who weren’t were exceptions. They were also aimless low-lifes, or as we call them here, ‘chavs’. It is possible that their chaviness is to blame and it is also arguable that chavs don’t as a rule abstain from drugs on principle. And of course the Islamist cause plays its part by giving them a chance to redeem their own wretched existence. However I think it is the drugs that cause them to flip and to escalate from petty crime to crazy crime. You know, the kind of crime where people “can’t imagine why” (see above) anyone would do it.

          A good example would be the killers of Lee Rigby, a British soldier, who was beheaded (no less) in the street by a pair of heavy cannabis users.

          And the ‘precedent’ of which I speak is established by checking the facts of these cases. The drug link (and as I say above it is sometimes legally prescribed anti-psychotic medication) is not generally regarded as being important so you often have to dig for any drug connection. I don’t usually bother because others have already done it:


          I did my own little bit of digging once, though, and discovered that the man who put German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schauble into a wheelchair was a very heavy user of marijuana. As in everything the evidence is always there if you just look for it.

          There is increasing evidence of a link between cannabis use and schizophrenia. The decision in Britain nearly fifty years ago to classify cannabis as a soft drug was not based on any scientific research but appears to have been politically motivated. Not everyone who takes it is harmed in this way, of course, but a significant number (it seems) are.

          Just out of curiosity, what authoritarian agendas do you imagine have influenced me?

        • Sean Coleman October 2, 2017 at 4:32 pm #

          I hadn’t been on the receiving end of a ‘diddly squat’ put-down for a long time and was wondering what I had done wrong. I enjoy these bracing American blogs!

          • messianicdruid October 2, 2017 at 8:58 pm #

            “As in everything the evidence is always there if you just look for it.”

            Have you wondered why Terry Nichols is not being interviewed.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 9:13 pm #

            Being a Muslim is much indicative of terror than smoking pot. That being said, it’s not easy for most people to kill. Some may need the aid of drugs. Breivik did.

      • sophia October 3, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

        Not mary jane, but psych meds cause this sometimes.

    • K-Dog October 2, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

      “I can’t fathom what could be so wrong in a persons brain that would compel them to do such a thing.”

      For now I’ll guess that this was just an out of whack American drone infected and directed by the dysfunctional American zeitgeist monkey dance. News so far is that a woman was leaving him which may have caused his unhinged mind to swing in the breeze. But there are other possibilities besides deep state mind control.

      Charles Whitman fired from the University of Texas at Austin main building observation deck in 1966 and killed 15. He had a brain tumor which literally pushed him over the edge. There is a chance this could be true here. We shall see, I think the chance is small.

    • Doc Holliday October 2, 2017 at 11:56 pm #

      I listened to the recordings also. Sounded as if it was a belt fed auto, M-60 like or M-14 with a greater than 30 round mag. variety….

  16. malthuss October 2, 2017 at 10:51 am #

    The shooter was an White male.

    His online page and his wife’s stated they were anti Trump supporters.

    Wife probably an Asian Muslim.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:30 pm #

      Eggsactly. And Country Music Concert? Where else are you going find such a concentration of Trump people with no police around to protect. Fish in a barrel. Time to take off the gloves with these people.

      • K-Dog October 2, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

        Never let a mindless tragedy go un-exploited. That’s the spirit!

        • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

          Listen to the Leftist! What utter hypocrisy.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

            Life pro tip, Janos: The more you disapprove of someone, the less they heed your disapproval and the more they relish it.

            Now, apropos of nothing, here’s a fabulous transsexual Canadian makeup artist. Have fun!

          • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 5:45 pm #

            You think that’s a woman? And that an asshole is the same as vagina, right? Both just holes? And a piece of shit is the same as baby too, right?

          • DA October 3, 2017 at 7:23 am #

            You do have a way with words janos!

          • Elrond Hubbard October 3, 2017 at 2:30 pm #

            Whatever offends you most, Janos, I don’t play favourites. Now stop being so easily baited.

    • daveed October 3, 2017 at 9:26 pm #

      Do you still stand by this?

  17. upstater October 2, 2017 at 10:52 am #

    Please Jim, please, sign up for the Kardashian’s twitter feeds and daily emails and stop worrying. Stay inside, watch more TV and stock up on Cheetos and Pepsi.

    • malthuss October 2, 2017 at 11:01 am #

      GMOs, fluoride and Chemtrails.

    • DA October 2, 2017 at 12:06 pm #

      Out here, we take our nuclear waste straight up from the storage barrel like real men!

  18. Farmer McGregor October 2, 2017 at 10:56 am #

    “…there will be calls far and wide, by personas masquerading as political leaders, for measures to make sure something like this never happens again. That’s rich, isn’t it? Meanwhile, the same six a.m. headlines declared that S&P futures were up in the overnight markets.” –JHK

    It’s mighty rich, alright. That has bugged me for a long time as well: some child gets hurt in a normal clumsy accident and the shrieks of “must make sure” come howling forth, like we can somehow legislate perfect safety for all. Yikes. The current environment compelling ‘helicopter parenting’ is serving nicely to train our youngsters to find comfort in — nay, to demand — police state oversight in order to feel secure.

    As to the S&P futures, the MSN headline article about the shooting was quick to point out…

    “Shares of U.S. casino operators fell in early trading on Wall Street, with MGM Resorts International, which owns the Mandalay Bay, down 4 percent. Melco Resorts & Entertainment Ltd, Wynn Resorts Ltd and Las Vegas Sands Corp each fell 1 to 2 percent.”

    …as if that’s whats really important here: yeah, yeah, some people died, but CASINO STOCKS FELL!! The horror of it!

    Another great post, Jim. Thanks.

    • ozone October 2, 2017 at 11:30 am #

      “Shares of U.S. casino operators fell in early trading on Wall Street, with MGM Resorts International, which owns the Mandalay Bay, down 4 percent. Melco Resorts & Entertainment Ltd, Wynn Resorts Ltd and Las Vegas Sands Corp each fell 1 to 2 percent.”

      Peter Rabbit’s Nemesis,
      I don’t know why that should be. Heck, “the folks” or assorted ghouls will pay a YUGE premium to stay in the Paddock spree-room and wallow in the black energy of the Abyss. There’s money to be made! God bless America!

      • Farmer McGregor October 2, 2017 at 11:42 am #

        Dang, Ozone.

        It actually took me a moment to figure out “Peter Rabbit’s Nemesis”. Duh!

        Coffee. Need more coffee.


        • ozone October 2, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

          Farmer McG.,
          Coffee! Always a good idea.
          Coffee as a barter good… hmmm. 😉

          • Farmer McGregor October 2, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

            Going for salt first. A ton is easy to store and has good self life.
            Can live without coffee — don’t WANT to though.
            How well do coffee beans hold up in storage?

          • Farmer McGregor October 2, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

            Make that SHELF life.

          • ozone October 2, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

            Coffee shelf-life:
            Drinking coffee purchased in 2009 today. The heavy-foil-sealed, vacuum-packed, 3-lb. metal cans seem to keep it just fine (so far anyway).

          • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:32 pm #

            What leaves make the best toilet paper? Have you tried rhubarb?

          • Farmer McGregor October 2, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

            Rhubarb leaves? A little slick.
            Now BURDOCK leaves with that fine fuzz… !
            (Only the leaves, gotta avoid those cockleburr seed heads.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 2:14 pm #

            Yeah, you don’t want to start growing a burdock inside your fundament.

          • DA October 2, 2017 at 4:21 pm #

            Yeah, you don’t want to start growing a burdock inside your fundament.

            Wan’t that a line in Stairway to Heaven?

    • Jigplate October 2, 2017 at 1:28 pm #

      It seems as if the first “masquerading persona” was none other than Hillary herself. at 10:00 this morning she tweeted:
      “Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again.”

      Somebody should tell Hillary to stay away from twitter ( since trump isn’t listening) they should also tell her that she is no longer relevant.

      • sophia October 3, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

        So is it only me who smells a rat? C’mon people. Is our govt corrupt or not? If it is, would they engage in mind control led assassins to bring about gun control and keep upping the ante until we cave? The war is on and the opening shots have all come from one side. How come the ante keeps getting upped?

  19. malthuss October 2, 2017 at 11:00 am #


    Daily Mail reports this:‘ISIS has has claimed responsibility the mass shooting in Las Vegas where 50 people were killed and more than 406 wounded, and said the attacker had converted to Islam a few months ago.

    • DA October 2, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

      Yep, like you said. CIA inside job all the way. File under: “The war comes home, now we’ll need to destroy the entire country in order to save it.” Now quick, under the bed all of you!

  20. PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 11:01 am #

    Newtown was illustrative of everything to me. If the slaughter of little kids in a country does not change anything, nothing will.

    Same with this deal. Everybody gonna say “what can we do?” Nothing will change. Nothing.

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    • DA October 2, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

      As Jim said above, this will be out the news cycle and reduced to mere background noise by the end of the week. Move along now, nothing to see here!

  21. PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 11:06 am #

    A guy with a minigun could be out there mowing down thousands of ppl, and you’d get the same result. The lobbyists own DC, and nothing will change people.

    So. It’s country in deep, deep distress. It reminds me of Yugoslavia ala’ 1989. I was there. Not good.

    • noel bodie October 2, 2017 at 11:53 am #

      Some of the stated reasons in the Constituion for forming a union are as follows: insure domestic tranquility, promote the general welfare and insure the blessing of liberty. Please tell me how the Second Amendement is contributing to any of these goals. I am headed to the North Shore next week….I will be on the lookout for maple leaf flags.

      • PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 3:34 pm #

        ya its pretty out there. Big rains tonight tho, might wash em away, idk

      • messianicdruid October 2, 2017 at 9:21 pm #

        “Please tell me how the Second Amendement is contributing to any of these goals.”

        It serves as a warning, then a tool of restoration, as needed.

      • sophia October 3, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

        Google the St. Bartholomew’s Day massacre.

        • daveed October 3, 2017 at 9:36 pm #

          Okay, but only if you Google St. Elmo’s Fire. The weather phenomenon, not the other stuff. And we’ll meet back here and compare our notes?

  22. isolde100 October 2, 2017 at 11:23 am #

    Catalonia is going the way of Quebec. Secessionist movements sound very romantic especially to American ears but the reality is far more brutal. It means capital flight, business closures, and increasing poverty. Again look closely at Montreal and the effects of the secessionist movement. A lot of businesses fled to Toronto. Capital became expensive making it difficult for the Quebec government to upgrade infrastructure.

    I lived in Barcelona for a few months and I used to go to Barcelona a lot for business and pleasure. My experience as an Asian woman who speaks a bit of Spanish and NO Catalan was quite unpleasant. Twice in a queue in two different local markets to buy vegetables I was passed over for the next person who happened to be a local Catalan. These 2 times were in 2 different markets. I had been quietly queueing like everyone else. When I got pissed off and told the vendors that I was next in the queue, they barked back at me in Catalan even though I had addressed them in Spanish.

    What I had experienced in Catalonia was pure Xenophobia. Automatic Earth, the website you referred to above, makes it look like Spain is a fascistic oppressor but the reality is that Catalans are xenophobic, grumpy, unpleasant people. Ok, some of the young people are very nice and they speak many languages. But my experience with the older people in Barcelona is this: they are xenophobic, ill-tempered and rude to foreigners. I find people in Madrid, Rioja, Andalusia, San Sebastián, and the Balearic Islands far more friendly.

    So how is Catalonia going to survive? The Spanish central bank will stop sending money to the ATMs. There will be a major bank run and all the banks will collapse. They are not an EU member and must apply for membership so the European Central Bank can’t help them. To become an EU member, every member state must approve and Spain will never do that. Catalonia needs to raise money via bonds. But their bonds will be very risky so they will pay a high interest rate. The young and smart people will move to Madrid or go abroad. Result: collapse.

    Frankly the Spanish government should have simply let them declare independence and them turned off the cash spigot. They won’t survive more than one month.

    • PeteAtomic October 2, 2017 at 11:30 am #

      ya you are probably right about all that.

      • 100th Avatar October 2, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

        Isolde got passed over at the market by a Catalan speaking grandmother so she condemns Catalans to servitude to Madrid.

        What a petty, privileged, and ugly tourist.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 2, 2017 at 11:46 am #

      Yes, Québec is prone to the same kind of xenophobia. I suppose it comes with being a linguistic minority within a larger confederation — the language barrier means that people mainly speak with each other and reinforce one another’s prejudices. Disconfirming information never gets through.

      I have a friend whose parents moved to Ontario from the Lac St. Jean area. There are francophones there who see everything as a plot by English Canadians to suppress francophone culture and prepare for a coup that will see them eliminated. Sadly, Canada has actually done that in more than one case: infamously the residential schools (which the TRC deemed an act of cultural genocide), but it affected my family too. As a girl, my maternal grandmother in Nova Scotia spoke only Gaelic at home, and was forced to speak English at school for her own good. The entire culture was very nearly lost.

      This seems to be a time when nationalist movements are feeling emboldened. If Québec finally does decide to leave Canada, I trust and hope they’ll do it peacefully. A return to FLQ-style violence is the last thing we need.

    • Farmer McGregor October 2, 2017 at 11:47 am #

      Good comment, isolde100.
      Thanks for the insight.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:56 pm #

      Now you know how Whites feel waiting to be served in some Chinese restaurants, often the better ones. It’s the price of getting good Chinese food. Xenophobia is completely natural, just like loving your own kids more than other kids. If you don’t love your own people more, you aren’t natural or good. Asians are utterly natural in this regard, masters. Time for White to relearn this all important lesson before we are destroyed.

      Long time White residents of Japan pride themselves on being cool about “Japanese Only” signs on some clubs. If you love Japan, you want it stay Japanese, right? Try to adopt the same attitude to White European Cultures, if indeed you love us and wish us well that is. Many Asians do not needless to say.

      • thwack October 2, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

        All Asians don’t get along with each other.

        Chinese hate Japanese; Koreans, both north and south hate japs too.


        your whole concept of white people being some kind of big tent is null and void because they suffer from a similar problem.

        And then don’t forget Cain and Abel.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

          East Asians have their own hierarchy of Race, and they do put other East Asians before Whites. The idea that their prejudice is purely national is not correct, though of course it’s there too. They certainly put Whites before Blacks. If a Black enters a large store in Japan, his presence will be announced as a courtesy and warning to the Japanese shoppers.

          • thwack October 2, 2017 at 9:23 pm #

            The hierarchy is race is the very thing that ends with white people killing each other.

            How can you order me around and tell me what to do… when Im just as white, or WHITER than you?

            You think blacks are surly and truculent?

            Look at your own white woman and how quick she is to give you the finger?

            Thats not an accident?

            She learned that watching YOU give me the finger for the last 500 years.

            The hierarchy of race always ends with one man killing his brother;

            sometimes with my help.

            Just sayin

      • Tate October 2, 2017 at 2:54 pm #

        But Diversity is our strength.

        Or so they keep telling us, LOL.

    • Sean Coleman October 2, 2017 at 4:48 pm #

      I have had difficulty getting a place in the queue at meat counters in the Med. Once, in the Algarve, after waiting for twenty minutes I worked out that they had a numbered ticket arrangement. They were all locals and having a good old chin-wag (in Portuguese) and nobody bothered to tell me. It could also be because I am a man. In general in Med supermarkets where there are mainly locals there is a chilliness towards tourists. I don’t really mind because I don’t like them much either, partly because they are chavs (see my comment above). I find it is the younger ones who are the most overtly hostile, but it really only boils down to irritated looks and grunts.

      I don’t know what this unpleasantness is about. Both Spain and Catalonia appear to be full members of the pc club. What is the point of a pc country gaining independence? What would they do with it that their pc mother country doesn’t already do or any of the other EU members? (I think the countries up the western seaboard, from Portugal to Iceland are the most politically correct, but is so hard to tell.) Catalan radio is unbearable and Spanish not much better, if at all. For starters, their advertisements would addle you. I don’t mind the xenophobia. I don’t like seeing too many of them over here either, and that is probably the way it should be, to most people’s satisfaction.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

        Yeah, that’s my question too. If they’re going to fill ‘er up with Non-Whites, who cares? The Scottish Independence Movement are hardcore Anti-Whites – and that means anti-Scottish too by definition.

        If they would only teach Aristotelean logic or even Euclid’s geometry, people might be able to figure this stuff out.

      • 100th Avatar October 2, 2017 at 7:20 pm #

        A xenophobic Irishman! How rich indeed.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 3, 2017 at 2:06 pm #

          You pathologize the normal. As if being Heterosexual automatically mean Homophobia.

          You’re a Xenophile. How about that?

      • Sean Coleman October 3, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

        One thing they could do would be to privilege the Catalan language over Spanish (Castilian). That would create a lot of ill will among Spanish speakers in the region, mainly in Barcelona I suppose where it would surprise me if there are more regular Catalan speakers than Spanish. It would put the cat among the pigeons if nothing else. A few years ago I read quite a big book about the use of Catalan in the region (in Catalá) and it is not straight forward because much of the language has been heavily permeated by Spanish by now, including everyday language and idiom. I also expect it is stronger in the countryside (because such languages always are) but again it is just a matter of time before it goes the same way. I think Mallorquín has been in steady retreat, possibly because of mainland Spaniards working in the tourist industry on the island. It is probably more because youngsters are influenced by tv. (The Simpsons was big in Spain but their Homer sounds, well, just as one would expect. How do they convey Bumblebee Man? Ay ay ay! I like Mallorcan Catalan, at least the way it is spoken on the radio. They used to have a good daily newspaper in that language, Noticias de Mallorca or something like that.

        As for the EU, they like the idea of a Europe of the Regions, presumably because it is easier for Brussels to rule. (I used to be struck as I drove across the River Shannon, just past Athlone, by the massive roadside sign: ‘You are now entering Ireland West’. Ireland West? What on earth is that?) The EU is of course insane in its attempt to rule centrally. People don’t realize how little their national parliaments count for any more as shelf loads of legislation is waved through by means of ‘statutory instruments’, regulating their lives to the most miniscule degree. It is one of those extraordinary mass delusions I keep going on about. Really, it is bonkers.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 3, 2017 at 6:15 pm #

          I Read how tourism, even as it raved about the Celtic language and culture of the Isle of Man, helped finish them off. Humans so often destroy what they seek and “love”.

          Methodism did the rest. Wales triumphed over Ireland in this little land in the Irish Sea.

        • 100th Avatar October 4, 2017 at 11:12 am #

          Rambling, nostalgic, and pointless. The jabbering of a drunk Irishman.

          • Sean Coleman October 4, 2017 at 11:39 am #

            Why, gee thanks! It was supposed to be rambling, nostalgic and pointless.

    • 100th Avatar October 2, 2017 at 7:11 pm #

      Isolde, you fool, EVERYONE gets passed over for locals in markets, especially for the elderly! Very disingenuous and very clueless observation.

      They barked back at you in their own language? How dare they!
      How dare they not accommodate the tourist!

      One less guiri in Barcelona, oh well, go to Madrid… you’ll fit in.

      Catalans play chess as the Madrilenos play checkers.

      This isn’t Catalonia against Spain. This is Catalonia against Madrid, the oppressor, a historical oppressor across the GLOBE!


      • Sean Coleman October 3, 2017 at 12:04 pm #

        Bloody hell!

      • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

        So they get to be Xenophobic but the Irish do not? Or you’re for local color and coloreds but against all nations? Or just nations and “vibrancy” for Northern Whites?

        Situational thinking. You just say whatever pops into your head. Logic and consistency are for wimps. It’s all about the feelz.

  23. volodya October 2, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

    The Puerto Rico disaster is the perfect chance for a self-indulgent virtue-signaling sneer-fest. No matter if the rescue-relief operation is a model of timeliness and efficiency, the Democrat-Prog media and pundit mouthpieces will portray it as a model of racist neglect.

    But don’t look for unbiased and impartial anywhere because if the relief efforts were a Katrina-style botch, bullhorns on the Republican side of the spectrum would be busy minimizing and deflecting. So what’s actually going on in Puerto Rico?

    I can see the film footage of the damage. But as to rescue- relief I have no idea. I listened to the accounts of the San Juan mayor and right away it all sounded like partisan bullshit, like a down and dirty politico with ambition for higher office grinding out her factional bona fides. Same with pretty much every account I’ve heard, spun by spinners and informationally useless.

    • ozone October 2, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

      Yep. In this miraculous electronic age of “more news than you can use” (much less process), why the disquieting silence? I always imagine that something very serious or dangerous is being kept from us. As in, “This could happen to you too!” Object lessons are too terrifying for the American public… and might give people ideas about “unnecessary” preparation and “unacceptable” social constructs.

      • volodya October 2, 2017 at 1:09 pm #

        There’s lessons long in the making.

        Hyman Roth admonished Michael Corleone about asking uncomfortable questions in open forums. Stick to the script Michael. Don’t stray over the lines. The guerillas will be defeated.

        Do you remember the Westmoreland-McNamara accounts, the stories of victories and body-counts, the Kissingerian-peace-is-at-hand? Did anyone in power back then stop and discuss why it was that no matter how many Vietnamese were killed on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, two more took their place?

        Those in the Power-Elite stuck to increasingly impossible to believe narratives. Yes, Vietnamization would work, yes, the Vietnamese villager would gladly sacrifice his life for the sake of a corrupt ruling aristocracy. Sure he would.

        Nothing much changed in the intervening decades except that surveillance technology has much improved. As to the pure, 100% bullshit being sold as fit for human consumption, it’s all the same.

        Yes, Iraq has WMDs, yes, the Russians tampered with the election, yes, there’s collusion, collusion smoke as far as the eye can see. It’s now a matter of finding the collusion fire, the smoking guns. It’s indisputable, American intelligence sez so.

        • seawolf77 October 2, 2017 at 1:43 pm #

          “There was this kid once, you know kind of looked up to me. We did our first business together. Times were good, we made the most of it. Made a fortune running molasses out of Cuba… in trucks owned by your father. Later on this kid had an idea, to make a town out of a GI stopover on their way out to the west coast. That kid’s name was Moe Greene. And the city he invented was Las Vegas. This was a great man, a man of guts and vision, and there isn’t even a plaque or a signpost of him in that town. Someone put a bullet in his eye. No one knows who gave the order. When I heard it I wasn’t angry, knowing Moe talking loud and stupid. So when he turned up dead… I let it go. And I said to myself THIS is the profession we’ve chosen. I didn’t ask who gave the order, because it had nothing to do with business! I’m going in now to take a nap. When I come out if the $2 million is on the table, I’ll know I have a partner. If it isn’t, I’ll know I don’t.”

          • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 2:12 pm #

            A great movie indeed. One of the few that didn’t try to pin all of organized crime on the Italians.

          • capt spaulding October 2, 2017 at 2:22 pm #

            Or everything else on the Jews.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

      One Puerto Rican reporter was bemoaning the lack of aid as she stood in front of two stories of pallets. The PR Teamsters refuse to move them. Why didn’t Trump send 18 Wheelers? He didn’t know the PR Teamster Union would be such utter scumbags.

      • Precipitous Decline October 2, 2017 at 2:17 pm #

        I think we could mobilize the troops. A lot of guys have heavy equipment and truck driving skills and it would actually help them out to get some directly transferable skills. The civilian job market can be tough so this might help some of them. I don’t think the mob (I mean teamsters) would openly mess with armed troops. It wouldn’t take too long to unF^&* the situation. By comparison, Bosnia is 5.6 times bigger than Puerto Rico. It really shouldn’t take that long and it would be cheaper than allowing the stuff already there to bottle neck and spoil.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 2:29 pm #

          Yeah, why not? It’s not that far away after all. If they have enough trucks, then commandeer their trucks. Or bring some in. After Katrina I had the idea that a certain percentage of National Guardsman should be trained to drive buses. It would have helped.

        • DA October 2, 2017 at 4:17 pm #

          Unfuck. Now there’s a word you don’t see used enough anymore. Got a real military ring to it.

          • K-Dog October 3, 2017 at 4:25 am #


          • DA October 3, 2017 at 7:22 am #

            You’re full of tail-waggers today!

      • San Jose October 2, 2017 at 6:14 pm #

        My cousin, who is the fire chief of a big city, sent a crew of fire fighters east just days after 9-11. The New York union guys delayed their ability to help because they didn’t have their union badges packed in their hurry to help out. They weren’t allowed on site until all the union bull-sh#! was ironed out.

        My cousin found this to be repulsive on many levels.

        Jen in San Jose

  24. volodya October 2, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

    Who wants to wager that the trail-in-absentia is a done deal and the verdict rendered? The big question is when the Deep State conducts the putsch.

    I just finished a biography of Wilhelm Canaris, the German spy-chief during Hitler’s reign. He was hanged by the SS for plotting against the Fuhrer. By the sounds of that book, Germany was festering with plots of one kind or another for years, none of which came to fruition for one reason or another until the bomb-blast which nearly finished off old Adolf. The Nazis sure had popular support. But there was also a fair bit of opposition, especially among the aristocratic elite and monarchists like Canaris who couldn’t abide the new regime.

    The point being the parallels. Given the opposition to Trump from many quarters, the improbability of Trump’s win, his incessant spewing, his threats to the ruling order, his diplomatic improprieties, his assault on accepted rules of decorum, his ouster looks more like just a matter of time. The non-stop leaks from governmental bodies like intelligence orgs makes it a pretty sure bet that the knives are out. It all looks like a matter of when and not if.

    And if it’s just a matter of when, the next question is how. The 25th? Is there enough cumulative cojones in the bureaucracy to do a de-facto coup? Or will it rest with the military to tell the Donald the show’s been cancelled?

    • volodya October 2, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

      fuck me, correction: TRIAL-in-absentia. Not trail-in-absentia

      • DA October 2, 2017 at 4:15 pm #

        To trail in absentia is when you’re so far behind you give up and go home, while the other team keeps on playing and running up the score in your absence. See Alabama 66, Ole Miss 3 (all in the first quarter), Saturday. But I’ll have to pass on the “fuck me” offer. Perhaps janet might take you up on it?

  25. Ishabaka October 2, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

    Interesting and pathetic that in the wake of two great American tragedies – Puerto Rico’s double hurricanes, and the Las Vegas shootings, the comments section here if full of hatred and divisiveness. Seems nothing can bring Americans together anymore.

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    • seawolf77 October 2, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

      Once you grind that conservative groove in, there’s no chance for compromise.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 2:08 pm #

      The Left destroyed civil discourse in this country as per Marxist-Leninist doctrine demands that they do. Did you see much soul searching after the shooting of Steve Scalise? The Trump assassination pantomime kept up all Summer in Central Park.

      Do you blame us for hating them back? And preparing for the inevitable? If we did as you ask, they win. No. It’s time to beat ploughshares into swords and not vice versa. The Bible has it both ways btw, though in Church they only ever talk about the other. Christianity is soft and corrupt now too.

      • DA October 2, 2017 at 4:09 pm #

        Wait, weren’t Marx and Lenin white too? You lost me there big guy.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 5:38 pm #

          Marx wasn’t and Lenin was perhaps part White and part God knows what else. But I think you know this, devil. In any case, they certainly didn’t identify with ethnic Russians whom they saw the same way Ms Gelfman-Gold sees us.

          • DA October 2, 2017 at 5:56 pm #

            Thanks. Wikipedia doesn’t agree with you on Marx in particular, but I’ll let that slide. Please call me Lucifer in the future, if you please.

      • Epicur October 2, 2017 at 4:52 pm #

        Don’t bother hating. It clouds the mind.

    • K-Dog October 3, 2017 at 4:24 am #

      Seems nothing can bring Americans together anymore.

      I agree.

      • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 9:15 am #


      • Janos Skorenzy October 3, 2017 at 6:16 pm #

        So we should separate. But the idea of Whites being happy and prosperous away from minorities and their enablers is unbearable to you. You signed the suicide pact and you can’t stand that we didn’t.

  26. hvserv October 2, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

    Would like to see a picture of the Dinosaur/Pirate display. Might be a shout-out to the recent Magic: The Gathering release of “Ixalan” block – features dinosaurs and pirates.

    • goat1001 October 2, 2017 at 1:57 pm #

      The Home Depot has a T-Rex and various goblins for sale…

      • hvserv October 2, 2017 at 4:30 pm #

        Goat101 – Thanks. I may harness up the wagon and go see if they’ll swap me one for a load of winter squash.

      • K-Dog October 3, 2017 at 4:18 am #

        Stopped by LOWES Hardware to check out a shower door and saw fan-fed Halloween inflatables after work today. Some of them are huge. A boat with four pirates in it was $179. A bouncing clown car of ghouls was pretty cool. I think it was going for $220. If I was going to get one that would be it.

        On huge ‘ghost’ was an obvious rework of the Christmas Grinch, the one that stole Christmas. White fabric replaced the green and It was about twenty feet tall. A good size for a Trump or Rocket Man done up the same way. I can see the carrot topped blimp in my minds eye now. The hair glows a flaming orange in the dark.

        Had Hillary won converting the red eight foot tall flapping-winged RODAN to her likeness would not be hard.

  27. lsjogren October 2, 2017 at 1:20 pm #

    In our extremely stratified economy, only the wealthy can afford T Rex with band of pirates.

  28. FincaInTheMountains October 2, 2017 at 1:55 pm #

    Breaking Bad: Hillary claims responsibility for deadliest gun massacre in modern US history


    Yes, I know – it says ISIS, but is it not the same thing?

  29. Precipitous Decline October 2, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

    I’ve often thought that the World Made By Hand Series should have a prequel and maybe even a sequel. Why limit it to just four?

    Today I think I woke up in the prequel. Puerto Rico, Vegas (maybe false flag/maybe nut case), Rex Tillerson diligently doing his duties despite anyone actually caring (including his boss), massive hurricane damage in Texas and Florida, crazy stuff happening in Europe because regions want to opt out, more terrorist attacks in France, a soaring stock market, and oh yah, it happens to be October.

    This Monday kind of makes one think what Brother Jobe and Robert Earle would have to say about it all. A pint of cider and some of brother Jobe’s finest would go down well too. I guess I’m going to have to build my own world made by hand. I’m going to have to start with the apple seeds. After that… Anyone got any good Whiskey recipes?

    • capt spaulding October 2, 2017 at 2:27 pm #

      Got the straight scoop from Trump & his callers. The shooter was obviously a Liberal, and since it was a country western event, it was obviously composed of conservatives. Well I guess I don’t have to draw you a map. See, those gun hating Liberals will even go against their principles, and buy a fully automatic rifle if it means they can kill a passel of conservatives.

      • capt spaulding October 2, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

        “Although it is not true that all conservatives are generally stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are generally conservative”….. John Stewart Mill

        • Epicur October 2, 2017 at 5:18 pm #

          That’s a fair enough rap. So is the observation that the furrier gets more skins of foxes than asses.

          Our cities are filled with millions of clever people.

          I recommend a poem to you, “The Purse Seine” by Robinson Jeffers. Penultimate lines:

          Lately I was looking from a night mountain-top
          On a wide city, the colored splendor, galaxies of light:
          how could I help but recall the seine-net
          Gathering the luminous fish? I cannot tell you how
          beautiful the city appeared, and a little terrible.
          I thought, We have geared the machines and locked all together
          into inter-dependence; we have built the great cities; now
          There is no escape. We have gathered vast populations incapable
          of free survival, insulated
          From the strong earth, each person in himself helpless, on all
          dependent. The circle is closed, and the net
          Is being hauled in. They hardly feel the cords drawing, yet
          they shine already. The inevitable mass-disasters
          Will not come in our time nor in our children’s, but we
          and our children
          Must watch the net draw narrower, government take all
          powers–or revolution, and the new government
          Take more than all, add to kept bodies kept souls–or anarchy,
          the mass-disasters.

          • capt spaulding October 2, 2017 at 10:16 pm #

            I seem to recall reading that cities are where most of the liberals live nowadays. Not that I consider myself either liberal or conservative. I am, however a moderate nonetheless, except in the pursuit of liberty, and our constitutional rights.

      • volodya October 2, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

        I wonder where he got the gun.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 3, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

          Can you be more specific? The guy had at least 23 at the hotel, and 19 more at home. (Source.)

          Guns, after all, are like snowflakes: each one is a unique and precious individual. (Mass shootings, on the other hand, are a statistic. At least in the good ol’ USA they are.)

      • Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

        Now you’re talkin’ sense. See below for confirmation. Your Liberal Tribe is in full gloat mode and celebration, barely able to contain their glee as they laugh up their collective sleeve.

    • Farmer McGregor October 2, 2017 at 2:50 pm #

      Hey there Precip,
      Whatcha gonna do with those apple seeds?

  30. Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 2:22 pm #


    Her name? Gelfman-Gold. Robin Hood’s cousin’s name was Gamble Gold.

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  31. Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 2:26 pm #


    A teacher! Then people wonder what happened to this country. Teaching is one of the most Leftist professions of all. Ginsburg shouted to the cop, “We’ll get your children” – and so they did. He himself got any number of young boys in a different sense, but all is forgiven since he is who he is, right?

  32. RobH October 2, 2017 at 2:27 pm #

    It’s a side issue, but as Jim mentioned it:

    The Catalan referendum result was approx 90% independence on a 40% turnout

    It makes you wonder if they held an official referendum what the result would be as it might be assumed that in an unofficial ballot the no vote may stay in bed

    Like the Brexit vote in the UK where only 27% of those eligible voted leave, the rest voted stay or ‘couldn’t be bothered’

    Referenda are a bad idea. A lot of people in the UK don’t know what a representative democracy is, that we have one of those, and that those who Google ‘what is the EU’ the day after the vote should have no right to

    • volodya October 2, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

      Maybe they’re a bad idea. But the people that ought to have known better than anyone as to what kind of democracy they live in are the people that decided to conduct the referendum.

      Seems to me it’s one giant fail after another. After that referendum Theresa decides to hold an election. Didn’t go so well. Everyone had written off Corbyn, that is everyone except the voters.

  33. trolleybill October 2, 2017 at 3:15 pm #

    Not really sure why you dislike our President Trump for one that voted not once but twice for a corporate shill who was so full of himself and so much a one trick pony with Obama Care. One thing to be liberal but the democratic party is not the same as our daddies. You have to agree that Obama Care needs to be replaced, our boarders need to be strengthened as all the Illegals who’s numbers I’d estimate at up to and over 25 million. along with the crime, drugs and disease that comes along, our taxes need to be lowered and small business should be around 15% and not 20%, and the simplifying of filing taxes for lower income persons, working on employment. Do any of these things most cognitive Americans can repeat from rote. You know your democratic party has left the rails and are delusional if you think this hijacked body can be rehabbed to it’s old form which was not to my liking as it was not inspiring to Make America Great Again!

    • ozone October 2, 2017 at 7:47 pm #

      You now see the evidence in your own post of the loss of actual meanings.
      Using terms I think we can agree on:
      Obama was (and is) a corporatist and supporter/handmaiden of the deeply corrupted financial arena (the Wall Street fraudsters). He was (and is) in no wise a liberal. (At least, none of his deeds bespoke a liberal; there was a lot of mouthings in that direction, signifying nothing.)

      Oxford Dictionary:
      Liberal –
      “(in a political context) favouring individual liberty, free trade, and moderate political and social reform.”

      Oh, might as well throw its supposed antithesis in there as well:
      Conservative –
      “(in a political context) favouring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially conservative ideas.”

      It would seem to me that Cheeto von Tweeto (Condemner in Chief) is sort of a synthesis of those two definitions, although we might want to consult a New Yorker (of no particular rigid ideology) who has been watching his comic caperings for the past 20 years or so.

      BTW, we need (now and in future) more trolleys and a return of their wide-ranging routes. Butbutbut… don’t we need those old rail beds for hike ‘n’ bike trails?? Wherever shall we recreate??

      • capt spaulding October 2, 2017 at 10:57 pm #

        You’re right, ozone. Obama is a corporate shill, and as such is no different from the rest of the corporate cocksuckers up on the hill. When it comes down to the Oligarchs, there is no liberal or conservative, only power and money & they don’t care which side gives it to them as long as it keeps coming.

  34. janet October 2, 2017 at 3:47 pm #

    Another massacre by white domestic terrorists. Stephen Craig Paddock, another white christian terrorist… although you will never see “christian terrorist” in print, though more are killed by them than by radical Islamic terrorists in the US.

    • thwack October 2, 2017 at 9:03 pm #

      Paddock was set up by the jungle asian dragon lady.

      Just sayin

    • Q. Shtik October 2, 2017 at 11:20 pm #

      another white christian terrorist – janet


      I’ll bet he was an atheist, like you and me.

  35. Q. Shtik October 2, 2017 at 3:50 pm #

    58 dead, more than 400 wounded, DOW up 143 ?????????

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    • DA October 2, 2017 at 4:04 pm #

      Nothing like death and carnage to jack up the bull market testosterone levels, eh Q?

  36. tucsonspur October 2, 2017 at 5:14 pm #

    I’m thankful that Coyote missed me. His timing was off. But he got many others, devoured the unsuspecting in a bloody feast.

    The bones not only rolled, but were shattered last night in Las Vegas, just like any remaining image of life in Norman Rockwell’s America.

    Yeah, I have an AR.
    But I’m also old school and I’m ready. Whether my 1860 Army, Winchester ’73, .45, or Remington 870,12 gauge magnum, I’m ready.

    Remember Osama Obama?
    I don’t “cling” to the mumbo jumbo, bullshit hocus pocus of any self deluding, mind warping, slaughter causing religion. And I carry my guns proudly, handle them wisely, I don’t “cling” to them. Yeah, rejoice America, a Negro in the white house. Slow death Obama, just like Clinton would have given us.

    We may still survive.
    But Coyote on the 32nd floor? Hard to figure, hard to stop.

    • janet October 2, 2017 at 5:53 pm #

      “But coyote on the 32nd floor…” –tucsonspur

      He could have bee more
      Than a name on a door
      On the 32nd floor

      President Trump should immediately order the confiscation of all firearms of any kind, including pistols, semiautomatics, and single shots. All guns should be confiscated from citizens and non-citizensby Trump. Anyone, like tucsonspur or bikers or hunters or gangbangers, who disobey the firearm confiscation law, and refuse to hand over their firearms, should lose their citizenship and be deported immediately to await coyote.

      It is ridiculous that one white christian terrorist can shoot 600 people in seconds: Eliminate the 2nd Amendment and get serious. Stop coddling. Stop the snowflake behavior. No more gun owners.

      • tucsonspur October 2, 2017 at 6:30 pm #

        We’re all “awaiting” Coyote regardless.

      • Q. Shtik October 2, 2017 at 11:16 pm #

        Your having a wet dream janet.

        • Q. Shtik October 2, 2017 at 11:44 pm #


      • DA October 3, 2017 at 7:20 am #

        I think janet’s got a little crush on The Donald. I’m guessing it’s the orange hair.

    • pequiste October 2, 2017 at 6:04 pm #

      Glad you were not in harm’s way Tuc.

      Regarding the Coyote being hard to stop – extremely hard to prevent.

      That said, I am thinking about drafting some new legislation for the Congress: The Terrorism and Mass Murder Response Act.

      Still working on the details but given the increasing magnitude of these mass murders, the consequences need to be made compelling enough that someone planning something so despicable might think twice.

      • tucsonspur October 2, 2017 at 6:32 pm #

        All I can think of is the “unthinkable”.

        • sophia October 3, 2017 at 3:42 pm #

          Torture? But they kill themselves.

          • daveed October 3, 2017 at 9:49 pm #

            Or do they……..?

    • Buck Stud October 3, 2017 at 3:33 am #

      “The bones not only rolled, but were shattered last night in Las Vegas, just like any remaining image of life in Norman Rockwell’s America.”

      Great piece of writing tusconspur.

      Firearm owners such as yourself are not the problem; indeed I could leave my front door open and drive to market and nothing would be stolen if you were my neighbor.

      And there are so many responsible gun owners in America; so many in fact the small percentage that aren’t is fast proving to be ‘too much’.

      And when will ‘too much’ be put into legislation?

      Why of course when the bottom line is affected and a mass exodus from public gatherings occur.

      • DA October 3, 2017 at 7:18 am #

        Fair amount of speculation on the net that this was a rather obvious false flag incident, due to the gunmen’s somewhat dubious expert efficiency at his task and seemingly innocuous background. If so, this would seem to be a new evolution in such incidents, as its very obviousness makes it suspect, in that the spooks and their minions who facilitate such false flag incidents almost always cover their tracks much better than this, so we’ll have to see how it all plays out, realizing that we mere observers will likely never know the real truth of the matter.

        Regardless, lone wolf, lightly facilitated or unfacilitated attacks are certainly still possible, and in fact, one of the many benefits of a program of widespread facilitated “synthetic terror” events. Eventually the native population becomes so deranged from all the violence that they start taking matters in their own hands and begin acting out autonomously. Paddock would seem to fit that profile, as he was an extreme and temperamental loner; although once again, psychological profiles revealed after the fact in the MSM have to be taken with a large helping of salt, realizing that they are certainly manipulated by the authorities to some degree or another and/or fall prey to “the delusions of mass consensus.”

        In any case, if this episode represents our future, it marks a new level of professionalism and violence in the dirty business of mass killings, so whoever is behind it, whether it be Paddock alone or the usual suspects, they certainly did their homework well.

        • messianicdruid October 3, 2017 at 9:24 am #

          Antifa literature in his room reminds me of the Turner Diaries being found in McViegh’s Mercury.

  37. Janos Skorenzy October 2, 2017 at 5:53 pm #


    Another perspective. ISIS usually doesn’t claim responsibility unless the person is really involved, at least in terms of inspiration. But they and the Left are allies in any case. So it may not really matter. Both are deadly enemies of America, Western Culture, and the White Race.

    • tucsonspur October 2, 2017 at 8:01 pm #

      So it is.

    • DA October 3, 2017 at 7:00 am #

      America, Western Culture, and the Great White race has always been and remains its own worst enemy. And guess what? It was their own idea, I didn’t have to do a thing! Other than flatter their juvenile egos from time to time of course!

      DA, aka Lucifer (I have many names and none at all).

      • Janos Skorenzy October 3, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

        So you take the side of our enemies. That’s your solution to our troubled past. Not John Adams’ and Washington’s stay at home and out of foreign wars, not a peaceful back to the Earth/Small is beautiful, but a nihilistic desire for self destruction.

        You suck.

  38. janet October 2, 2017 at 7:00 pm #

    Gun-Related Deaths 2017

    11,000 … Americans killed by christian gun owners

    6 … U.S. forces killed in Afghanistan fighting ISIS

  39. FincaInTheMountains October 2, 2017 at 7:07 pm #

    Thirty seconds to Mars

    Elon Mask officially announced the beginning of the colonization of Mars in 2022, causing shock and awe from all iPhone bearers, pokemon hunters, gyroscope riders and high-tech startups.

    Do you understand what this means? Within five years, Matt Damon and Bruce Willis will start planting potatoes on Mars, while Russia’s only achievement is a giant cock hastily clad from manure.


    The Evil Empire is mired in dense barbarism and ignorance, while brokers, merchandisers and wireless app developers, armed with the teachings of Elon Mask, will plow the interplanetary vastness.

    Russia will remain at the broken trough at the edge of history, and civilized humanity will wave it with a handkerchief from SpaceX rockets, going on a trip to Mars and beyond.

    It remains only to secure enough Russian engines for those rockets.

    • Buck Stud October 3, 2017 at 3:20 am #

      I don’t think Janos wants to wave bye bye to the Russians when he relocates to Mars only the Mexicans, Blacks, Jews, feminists and the faggots too…so quit singling out the Russians.

    • RIB October 3, 2017 at 6:30 am #

      Don’t forget fidget spinner spinners fer chrissakes

  40. 100th Avatar October 2, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

    Th reality is that, Madrid and its Spaniards, have a deep irrational hatred of the Catalans.

    For the Catalans are insular, speak their own language, have their own cherished customs, refuse to “Hispanicize”, have a tenuous relationship with the church.

    They are stereotyped as cheap, stubborn, and financially savvy.
    They are steadfastly nonviolent, preferring the intellectual.

    Does any of this typecasting sound familiar?

    The Spanish massacred and exiled Arabs, Moors, and Jews. Not content in persecuting and suppressing those on their own peninsula, they massacred and forcibly converted indigenous Americans.

    Spain, more specifically, Madrid, is the epitome of fascism. Alive and well.

    The droves of Guardia Civil, a paramilitary police force that recruits heavily from the fringes and deepest recesses of Spain (those that need Madrid and Franco’s invention of Spain than Madrid needs them) relished the opportunity to take wood to flesh against the insolent Catalan dogs.

    It was a pogrom disguised as upholding of a worthless constitution “crafted” under the guise of eager dictators and generals in waiting.
    Even comical fascist generals with eye-patches.

    Madrid and Rajoy’s PP gave Spain the entertainment they craved, the bloodlust that seeps into their bones: defilement and indignities to the Catalan people. Or so they thought.

    They washed their hands of it. The Catalans had it coming and all of Spain and all its press toed the line. They agreed.

    But alas, the pesky Catalans, outwitted the Spanish yet again, same as it ever was…

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    • BackRowHeckler October 2, 2017 at 9:16 pm #

      I don’t see Madrid letting Catalonia go. It would be a disaster for Spain if the country broke up like that. There is no good reason for Catalonia to secede. They keep talking about historical events in the 16th and 17th centuries; for Chrissake let it go. I’ve read the they speak a different language in Catalonia but when we were in Barcelona my wife, a Spaniard from Bilbao, was jabbering away in Spanish in all the bars in Barcelona we went to. They speak Spanish! These modern secession movements, in California, in Canada, in Great Britain and in Spain are pretty stupid if you ask me. (and nobody is asking me, I know)


      • 100th Avatar October 2, 2017 at 9:55 pm #

        Very ignorant. That’s all I can say.

        • BackRowHeckler October 2, 2017 at 10:20 pm #

          Ignorant maybe, Avatar, but I’ll stand by it; Catalonia isn’t going anywhere. There was Civil War 80 years ago and possibly there’ll be Civil War again (and another, updated rendition of ‘Homage to Catalonia’)

          Spaniards can be tough, and my observation is that they are tougher in Madrid than in Barcelona. Take it for what its worth.


          • K-Dog October 3, 2017 at 3:51 am #

            I think he was agreeing with you.

          • 100th Avatar October 3, 2017 at 12:21 pm #

            That is all they have. Toughness. That toughness brought them things, and that same toughness lost them those things.
            Lost them hemispheres.
            When you’re a hammer, sooner or later you run out of nails.
            Then they can screw themselves

      • akmofo October 2, 2017 at 10:00 pm #

        There’s nothing stupid about imperial theft. The only stupidity is in the people that fail to understand this.

      • Buck Stud October 3, 2017 at 3:39 am #

        You left out Texas, BackRowHeckler.

  41. malthuss October 2, 2017 at 9:33 pm #


    • capt spaulding October 2, 2017 at 11:03 pm #

      Tom Petty and the Heartstoppers.

      • DA October 3, 2017 at 7:29 am #

        TP and the Fartbreakers

  42. akmofo October 2, 2017 at 9:55 pm #

    Nothing is coincidence.
    Nothing is by accident.
    Everything is planned.

    What we’ve witnessing is the planned instigation for Civil War.

    Soon the lights will go out in the rest of America and Kunstler will get his wish.

  43. Q. Shtik October 2, 2017 at 10:58 pm #

    If you do not now own a gun, you do not want an automatic…a revolver is the proper choice…the safer choice. – elysian


    Why do I not want an automatic?
    Why is a revolver better? and why the particular 38 you mentioned?

    The first and last time I fired a handgun was in the summer following my Junior year of college during ROTC summer training at Lockbourne AFB in Ohio. It was a 45…OMG what a kick. It could break your wrist. I want something a little more namby pamby.

    • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 9:41 am #

      Double action Semi-autos can jam and the safety can be tricky. Single action autos require racking prior to firing, unless you want a round in the chamber. Then you have to cock it before firing. A double action revolver is on the other hand easy. You load it, you pull the trigger, and bang. Single action revolver require you cock it. A 38 is according to police records the least effective handgun round north of a 22. A 45 is the most effective. But if I had to pick a first gun a double action 38 revolver would be my first choice. Old school that I am it would be a Colt Detective.

      • elysianfield October 3, 2017 at 11:09 am #

        What you said…. A Smith and Wesson 38 cal revolver is one of the most common revolvers in existence. The round is mild in recoil and will be a bit superior in stopping power to the 9mm family of cartridges. The Ammunition is cheap, and ubiquitous.


        The S&W I consider a superior revolver to the Colt…but this is a Chevy/Ford thing…S&W’s are cheap and easy to find…Colts not so much.

        The revolver is a safer weapon to use rather than a (semi) automatic, with people who will not train with either. The revolver is instinctive…point and pull the trigger, rinse and repeat. An automatic requires several operations to function, and in a tense situation, without training or constant use, can be problematic.

        Mild recoil is an important consideration…consider your experience with the 45APC…

        • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 11:51 am #

          The problem with revolvers is accuracy. I definitely shoot my M9 best, even better than my 1911.

          • Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 1:29 pm #

            The problem with revolvers is accuracy. – seawolf


            I only anticipate shooting at close range….. like if somebody really pisses me off by, lets say, screwing me out of a parking place ……………………………. juuust kidding.

          • elysianfield October 3, 2017 at 7:40 pm #

            I beg to differ. I have revolvers in most calibers that would beat the hell out of any autos you own in accuracy…if you want an auto to shoot well, you need to accurize it…at sometimes great expense, to equal the accuracy of a target revolver right out of the box. Accurize a revolver, and the auto will never catch up.

            This is a field I am knowledgeable in…don’t argue with me…please.

        • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

          I like their J frames.

          • elysianfield October 3, 2017 at 7:41 pm #

            N frames for me….

      • Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 1:24 pm #

        if I had to pick a first gun a double action 38 revolver would be my first choice. – seawolf


        What do you mean by ‘double action?’

        What about my questions regarding buying used vs new or new vs used. It is hard to picture a used gun being less good than a new gun. They don’t depreciate like a car do they?

        BTW, thanks seawolf and elysianfield for your useful input.

        • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 2:40 pm #

          Remember Little Bill in the movie “Unforgiven” when he challenged Mr Beauchemp to shoot him and he said “First you got to cock it.” A single action gun’s trigger does only one thing: It drops the hammer. A double action gun’s trigger does 2 things. It cocks the gun and it fires the gun. On an auto this makes the first trigger pull harder than subsequent pulls because the cycling of the gun cocks the hammer. On a double action revolver each trigger pull is heavy because it has to raise the hammer and then drop it. Trigger pull is probably the most important thing in shooting a gun accurately. Th Colt 1911 was the standard sidearm for 75 years. It was a single action. Which meant if you wanted to pull the gun and shoot it, you had to carry it with a chamber in the round and cocked. An accident waiting to happen. Because of this and round capacity (1911-8 rounds of 45 ACP and a Beretta M9-16 rounds 9mm) they went to a double action Beretta M9. Now a soldier can pull the gun and shoot because the trigger pulls the hammer back that first time. Subsequent to that first pull the gun shoots like a dream.

          • Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 3:39 pm #

            you had to carry it [with a chamber in the round] and cocked. – seawolf


            with a round in the chamber?

            But thanks for the explanation. Sounds like double action is the way to go.

        • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

          As far as used vs new goes no they are like cars, just not all the time. Most guns will retain about 50% of their value. Some guns, especially those not in production anymore, increase in value. Someone recommended a Colt Diamondback or Python down below. I don’t know about the Diamondback but a used Python in great shape will fetch $3,000 – $4,000. A Colt detective can be had for about $1,000 and is a snub nose 2 1/2 inch barrel I think so it is easily concealable.

          • Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 3:33 pm #

            a used Python [in great shape] will fetch $3,000 – $4,000. – seawolf


            What could possibly cause a gun NOT to be in great shape? Does shooting too many people with it take the finish off…or warp the barrel?

          • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

            Guns are like Harleys. Probably 90% of them are well cared for. Sometimes after a long hunt you’re just too tired and your gun stays wet. Or you don’t clean and oil them. Sometimes a holster will wear the finish. I think the army gets 40,000 rounds out of the average Beretta M9. Collector Firearms here in Houston is a decent place to peruse, although they are highly priced. Gunbroker usually has better deals.

          • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 4:40 pm #

            Here is a good article.

      • Doc Holliday October 4, 2017 at 10:00 pm #

        A wise choice.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 3, 2017 at 1:54 pm #

      The shells stay in the gun. You can just walk away instead of crawling around on your hands and knees in the dark in the slush turning red trying to find them. What if one of them is under the stiff? Whatya gonna do then, sport?

  44. messianicdruid October 3, 2017 at 1:01 am #

    Tweeters revel at deaths of “Trumptards”.


    • Elrond Hubbard October 4, 2017 at 1:30 pm #

      Shame on them. There’s always a couple of assholes around to soil the majority of decent people. That said, I’m pretty sure the word “libtard” was coined first.

      Also from the article: “Other leftists wasted no time in hijacking the tragedy to push for gun control, with the hashtag #GunControlNow trending on Twitter and Piers Morgan attempting to collectively impugn white men.” Calling for gun control after a mass shooting isn’t “hijacking” anything. It’s the single clearest and most obvious time to do exactly that. Silly Infowars!

  45. Buck Stud October 3, 2017 at 3:09 am #

    I always liked this song–or at least the initial 1:30– but I never really listened to the lyrics–until this last Saturday that is–weird.

    While listening to it I thought, how strange, who is Jerry singing about (not me I hopefully thought to myself)?

    And yet, that day comes for all, everyone of us.


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    • Buck Stud October 3, 2017 at 4:13 am #

      Anyway good ol Tom Petty–who didn’t love his music and now off into ‘the great wide open’ as somebody poignantly wrote. Played a lot with the Dead, too.

      • malthuss October 3, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

        Is that second sentence a pun? A bad joke?

      • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

        They must get tired of playing the same old hits. Any real musician would. Or are you saying he loved some other kind of music far more, like Jerry Garcia loving Bluegrass way more than he cared for the Rock?

  46. janet October 3, 2017 at 7:34 am #

    “I’ve been a proponent of the 2nd amendment my entire life. Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was. We actually have members of our crew with [Concealed Handgun Licenses], and legal firearms on the bus,” lead guitarist Caleb Keeter wrote. “They were useless.” He continued:

    We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group (or one man) laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of fire power.

    Enough is enough.

    Writing my parents and the love of my life a goodbye last night and a living will because I felt like I wasn’t going to live through the night was enough for me to realize that this is completely and totally out of hand. These rounds were just powerful enough that my crew guys just standing in close proximity of a victim shot by this f—ing coward received shrapnel wounds.

    We need gun control RIGHT. NOW. My biggest regret is that I stubbornly didn’t realize it until my brothers on the road and myself were threatened by it. We are unbelievably fortunate to not be among the number of victims killed or seriously wounded by this maniac.”

    • akmofo October 3, 2017 at 8:41 am #

      No, you need to outlaw the ideologies and propaganda outlets that motivate these people to kill. These things don’t happen in a vacuum. Neither are they unique to the US.

      • Elrond Hubbard October 4, 2017 at 1:41 pm #

        Outlawing ideologies and propaganda outlets is as futile as it is anti-American. Ideologically-motivated gun violence is a fringe phenomenon. The majority of people killed by gunfire are killed by people they knew. (In the U.S. in 2011, it was 54.3% according to the FBI.)

        • akmofo October 4, 2017 at 9:15 pm #

          Idealogically motivated murder is the number one killer in the world now and throughout history. Black gang gun violence is statistically nonexistent compared to the numbers were talking about. The ideology of Islam is the top killer among these murderous ideologies. It tops nazism and communism combined. You don’t understand this, because you don’t understand how sheltered your life in the US really is. You make a big deal about 9/11, but 9/11 is nothing compared to the realities others around the world face every day confronting Islamism.

          • Q. Shtik October 5, 2017 at 12:05 am #

            you don’t understand how sheltered your life in the US really is. – akmo


            Elrond is Canadian.

          • akmofo October 5, 2017 at 7:00 am #

            Too same.

    • elysianfield October 3, 2017 at 11:13 am #

      People will give up any freedom for a sense of security.

      I have absolutely no respect for the snowflake you are quoting.

      • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 11:32 am #

        I won’t. Security is an illusion. Nothing is more sensitive to the law of diminishing returns than security.

        • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 5:03 pm #

          “The only hope for preventing mass shootings is to treat guns like any other public-health threat and build a strong body of research ”

          Yes, Elrond, another study will save us all. The US has a diseased, cankered whore of a culture. Gun violence is just another herpes outbreak…unsightly, temporary, and soon to go away, until the next outbreak. Study guns no further…. Back in the 60’s you could take a military weapon to show and tell in elementary school…I knew guys that had AR-15’s in their closets at the frat house…in 1966. What changed from then to now? The guns did not become more prone to violence by themselves. We are a sick culture that will not improve by mitigating gun rights.

          By the way, over 500 people were SHOT, not “injured” in Chicago in the month of September…where’s the outrage? The studies to end black violence…what rights other than 2nd Amendment be addressed to solve Chicago’s problems? Freedom of Assembly?

      • Elrond Hubbard October 5, 2017 at 11:05 am #

        elysianfield, what about Dan Bilzerian?


        How much respect do you have for the Instagram star who showed the world just what a posturing gun-fondler can accomplish at a real life mass shooting? (I.e., nothing. He accomplished nothing, except to run away.)

        • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 11:48 am #

          Did not know who he was…followed the link. Just another wannabe.

          Elrond, the reason that the majority of Americans do not accept gun control is obvious. The only thing that will keep these events from occurring is…total gun confiscation. This last incident gives lie to the superficial attempts to contain mass-shootings…the presented shooter obeyed all laws, did not fit any profile. How to stop this latest outrage would be to deny him guns and ammunition…Psychological evaluations would be mostly worthless…snake oil. “Reasonable” gun control is just a death by 1000 cuts (Lingchee). Limiting sales to one weapon a month would be unsuccessful. The shooter can fire only one gun at a time…needed only one reliable weapon.

          But what if draconian laws were passed? Unless all guns disappeared, then they could be stolen by criminals. What if all guns were eliminated? I myself own a large machine shop and could manufacture one in less than a day…and there are tens of thousands of machine shops in the US.

          In the end, we would give up a valued right for the ephemeral perception of safety…a cruel and cold comfort, and temporary.

          I think the reasons these outrages occur is the decline of taught morals, decline of culture, manipulations of the MSM, the internet promoting the estrangement of social interaction, and a widespread, but vague perception of impending catastrophe.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 5, 2017 at 4:07 pm #

            elysianfield, everything you say seems geared to reach the conclusion that nothing can or will change, and that it must not change. Mass deaths are a price that must continue to be paid. I reject that utterly.

            You and I agree that only a drastic reduction in the number of guns in private hands will reduce the number of mass shootings. You frame this as “total gun confiscation”, while I frame it as talking people down off the ledge from “cold dead heads” rhetoric. That attitude really is a suicidal frame of mind, and the >10,000 people who die every year in the USA ought to be an unignorable demonstration of that fact. Yet people under the spell of the gun culture manage to ignore them anyway, and swallow those deaths whole.

            Letting go of the gun culture is not a government power grab. It would be a welcome change in the consensus about guns toward something that is more sane and more compatible with life. My dream, and it’s a long shot I grant you, is to reassure people that it’s fine. It really is fine. Under a reasonable system, you’ll be safer than you are now, and you can still own and use firearms for hunting, sport, target shooting, what you like.

            I hope you’ll read the following article and consider what it has to say, from both a factual and a moral point of view:



  47. messianicdruid October 3, 2017 at 8:55 am #

    “The only thing that can be made to be illegal that would stand a chance to stop these damned shootings is white males and I do believe that it will come to that one day.”

    That won’t work either if they are being used as patsies.

  48. beantownbill. October 3, 2017 at 9:40 am #

    Given recent events and the current state of the nation, the title of the song “Free Fallin” seems apt, doesn’t it?

  49. FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 9:53 am #

    Nothing is coincidence.
    Nothing is by accident.
    Everything is planned.
    What we’ve witnessing is the planned instigation for Civil War
    == akmofo

    Las Vegas Platoon

    This is some super shooter and super weight-lifter.

    59 killed and more than 520 wounded, including 120 seriously. He managed to drag into the room more than 10 barrels and 30 magazines of ammunition to them. And Kalashnikov with a magazine weighs 5 kilos and every second shot was on target! It’s from 200 meters afar!!!

    Maybe there was a platoon hiding?! Or a company?!

    • akmofo October 3, 2017 at 11:08 am #

      Definitely multiple shooters.

      I have little doubt this is a gov mafia facilitated event to give people like Janet (and Kunstler) the dimwitted justification for more Vatican gov mafia tyranny. Same as 9/11.

      Can someone recommend some meds for his allergy? Red pill?

  50. FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 10:04 am #

    On September 30, Boris Johnson in Myanmar read Kipling’s verses: “Come you back, you British soldier; come you back to Mandalay!”

    Come you back, you British soldier; come you back to Mandalay!
    Come you back to Mandalay,
    Where the old Flotilla lay:
    Can’t you ‘ear their paddles chunkin’ from Rangoon to Mandalay?
    On the road to Mandalay,
    Where the flyin’-fishes play,
    An’ the dawn comes up like thunder outer China ‘crost the Bay!

    On the night of 1 of October, someone opened fire near the casino Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

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    • FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 10:08 am #

      Not appropriate’: Boris Johnson recites Kipling poem in Myanmar temple

      The British foreign secretary was caught uttering the opening verse to Rudyard Kipling’s The Road to Mandalay when he visited the Shwedagon Pagoda, the most sacred Buddhist site in Myanmar’s capital, Yangon. Kipling’s poem captures the nostalgia of a retired serviceman looking back on his colonial service and a Burmese girl he kissed. Johnson’s impromptu recital was so embarrassing that the UK ambassador to Myanmar, Andrew Patrick, was forced to stop him. The incident was captured by a film crew for Channel 4 and will form part of a documentary, Boris Johnson: Blond Ambition, to be broadcast on Sunday at 10.05pm. Britain colonised Myanmar from 1824 to 1948 and fought three wars in the 19th century, suppressing widespread resistance.


    • Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

      I would like to hear Boris’s rationale for this recitation. I’ll bet it was nothing nefarious and certainly had nothing to do with what happened in Vegas.

    • daveed October 3, 2017 at 10:01 pm #

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  51. Ol' Scratch October 3, 2017 at 10:17 am #


    • FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 10:25 am #

      If it would have been an actual emergency…

      • FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 10:27 am #

        Your ass would be flying to the Moon with a Second Cosmic Speed…


        • Ol' Scratch October 3, 2017 at 11:14 am #

          What’s with the cosmic bent lately Finca? Are you planning on leaving us?

          • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 5:06 pm #

            Perhaps he has been “called back to Moscow”? Never a good thing to hear from the Organs.

  52. janet October 3, 2017 at 10:27 am #

    “No, you need to outlaw the ideologies and propaganda…” –akmofo

    Doesn’t matter what ideology you have… if you don’t have firearms, you cannot kill dozens in seconds from a distance from the 32nd floor.

    Trump says we are going to have gun control and his buddies Chuck and Nancy will help Trump get gun control.

    Enough bloodshed, enough masacres. Think this masacre could have happened in a country thar has gun control? Other countries don’t have masacres like we do. They have sensible gun control. Now is the time and Trump will make it happen.

    • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 10:34 am #

      The 2nd amendment is there to protect the people from tyrannical governments. If a government wants complete control over its populace, it will disarm them. If they object, they will kill enough people until they don’t. Granted many countries have done it successfully namely England and Australia. But neither of these countries have a tyrannical right as we do.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 3, 2017 at 1:57 pm #

        A hilarious turning of reality on its head. The Right is what has saved our Bill of Rights against the Deep State of which you are a minion.

        • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 2:28 pm #

          Reality. What a concept.

          • messianicdruid October 3, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

            Well, welcome; do you need training wheels or crutches ?

          • messianicdruid October 3, 2017 at 3:29 pm #

            “Doesn’t matter what ideology you have… if you don’t have firearms, you cannot kill dozens in seconds from a distance from the 32nd floor.”

            The reason you cannot is physical reality:

            “Another man who apparently has significant professional background re weapons has sent me [ Rappaport ] his detailed analysis:

            “There is NO WAY in hell that this inexperienced guy was able to hit 500+ people, at a down sloping range of approximately 250-350 yards using a make-shift weapon modified to shot automatically. Here are some reasons why and you can check with other experts to verify my points.”

            “1. It was dark and no matter how well lit, there are many shadows to hide in.

            2. Simple a ‘sear’ (pronounced see-er) modification would have only permitted one entire magazine to shoot all at once with no select fire (being able to start and stop).

            3. There are some devices (like AutoGlove and Bump Fire) that can simulate full automatic fire, but they cannot be used accurately or effectively.

            4. Even if the shooter was able to somehow obtain a full normal functioning automatic rifle, anyone with military experience can tell you that the rifles are difficult to control when firing more than 3 round bursts – especially a .308 or AK47 type. This is because the rifle will uncontrollably rise if automatic fire is constant.

            5. After the first 15 or so seconds, the crowd scattered and took cover.

            6. I don’t have a count of how many pieces of empty brass (fired rounds) they have recovered, but knowing how many shots were fired compared to how many people were hit will tell you the hit ratio. If this guy did this in 20 seconds, we needed him desperately in Afghanistan!

            7. To fire 500 aimed shoots and swap out magazines would have taken him about 15-20 minutes, and there is no way that each shot would have hit someone – more than likely would have missed.”

          • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 3:36 pm #

            An automobile is a WMD, as proven many times. Maybe not 58 dead, but if you plowed one into a big crowd I bet you’d take at least 20 or 25. A big semi would take 50 easy. The problem is not the gun or the car, but what’s in people’s heads.

          • messianicdruid October 3, 2017 at 5:42 pm #

            “Gun control = poor people control. Access to high-power firearms on the part of the wealthy, and of politicians, judges, lawyers and other well-connected big shots, or their privileged guards, will always be left intact. When President Obama was in office and pushing for disarming Americans, he was surrounded by as many as a dozen gunmen of the U.S. Secret Service. Implicit in this double-standard is the arrogant assumption on the part of the elite that, “I deserve gun protection but you don’t.” This is the unspoken factor that is missing from the self-righteous diatribes by the advocates of high-power firearms-prohibition.”


          • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

            “7. To fire 500 aimed shoots and swap out magazines would have taken him about 15-20 minutes, and there is no way that each shot would have hit someone – more than likely would have missed.”

            The shots were not aimed. You can point a “bump-fire” weapon, but not aim with accuracy. I do not know the current numbers, but 500 people were “injured”, not shot…mostly I would expect injured from the panic…trampled, knocked to the ground…broken bones, etc.

            Fully Automatic weapon fire into a packed arena… targets shoulder to shoulder? Like shooting a bull in the ass with a shotgun….

            The shooter probably was able to unload three magazines (60 rounds+) before the victims knew what was happening/ the onset of the panic.

          • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 12:01 pm #

            Injured, but not necessarily shot….

    • akmofo October 3, 2017 at 10:49 am #

      The religion of piss will use and has used other methods for its massacres of the kafir, the infidel, and the dhimmi. By disarming the population you’re just allowing these killers more time to kill before they are neutralized. If you had any backbone and integrity, Janet, you would resist the commies and their jihadis. Instead, you (like Kunstler) just go with the flow and the gov mafia propaganda.

  53. Lonely Traveler October 3, 2017 at 10:29 am #

    One thing you can be sure of is that Mr. Paddock will be portrayed as a one-off, lone-gun killer. Never mind that this happens every day in America. The goal will also be for you to forget it asap, as Mr. Kunstler indicated. What’s really scary is that there are thousands of people like Mr. Paddock out there seething with anger. Schools, churches, malls, concerts – no place is immune from this type of violence. What’s next?

    • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 10:34 am #

      Probably an NFL game so Trump can blame it on the flag dis-respecters.

      • RIB October 3, 2017 at 11:30 am #

        Mandalay Bay was a false flag, wasn;t it Seawolfe?

        • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 11:49 am #

          He doesn’t sound like your typical lone nutter. Throwing around 10 grand on the tables is a bit rich. If I were to guess I’d say yes. But I’d lay this at the feet of the Big Pharma companies and their anti-depressants. This did not exist when I was a kid. Charles Whitman had a brain tumor. I think these people are off their rockers courtesy of Big Pharma. America is just over medicated, plain and simple.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 10:43 am #

      From Hillary with love

    • Ol' Scratch October 3, 2017 at 11:52 am #

      Almost surely facilitated, to some extent or another.

    • Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

      What’s next? – Lonely T


      A suitcase nuke at a Super Bowl game.

  54. Ol' Scratch October 3, 2017 at 11:11 am #

    Fellow Kunstlerites,

    As our fearless race warrior Janos has indeed exposed my (the commenter formerly known as DA) true identity, I’ve decided, to come clean on that little matter from here on out and go by one of the many semi-affectionate monikers you have all referred to me by down through the years: Ol’ Scratch. Thank you, and I look forward to hearing from you all, but please remember, I am right there with you always! Cheers!

    • Ol' Scratch October 3, 2017 at 11:12 am #

      By the way, thanks to our host Jim for approving the change and putting up with me for all this time. I can be a bit devilish from time to time, no?

      • 100th Avatar October 3, 2017 at 12:16 pm #

        Thanks WPA

    • capt spaulding October 3, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

      Lose the devil, it’s even more annoying than onehunglo.

      • Ol' Scratch October 3, 2017 at 2:50 pm #

        Change is often difficult Cap’n.

        • capt spaulding October 4, 2017 at 3:34 pm #

          Change does not necessarily mean it’s for the better.

      • onehunglo October 3, 2017 at 3:04 pm #

        ah, cap’n stubing……

        when onehunglo require lip from you, onehunglo simply rattle on zipper……


        • capt spaulding October 3, 2017 at 3:27 pm #

          Always with the oral references. You’ve used the same reply with others here, makes me think you have a lot of interest in that area. It’s getting as old as your faux Chinese accent. That’s old Charlie Chan bullshit. By the way, what happened to your patented ending? Seems like you gave it up after being satirized as onelongblo. Your shit is old, has been old after the first couple of posts. Get some new shtick, try Hungarian or something. Maybe people will find you witty.

          • onehunglo October 3, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

            you are not the real cap’n….

            onehunglo adept at spotting imposter.

            that ok.

            let not you heart be troubled.

            may God be with you.


  55. janet October 3, 2017 at 11:13 am #

    “Instead, you (like Kunstler) just go with the flow…” –akmofo

    Yes, that is my philosophy exactly: go with the flow. Do you try to go against the flow? How’s that working out for you?

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    • akmofo October 3, 2017 at 11:23 am #

      I don’t join the crowd, and I don’t go with the flow. The more of me, the less the flow. But YOU are the flow, whether you acknowledge it or not. I’m just fine with my position. Now you tell me, how does it feel to be a gov mafia nazi, because that’s your philosophy exactly, as you say.

      • akmofo October 3, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

        I should clarify:

        Nazis, commies, fascist, socialists, all the same gov mafia pig just different lipstick.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

          Libertarian? It won’t work. It just leads to what we have now: Oligarchic Plutocracy or rule by the Billionaires and their Corporations. Only the Fascist or Economic Nationalists can stop these devils. Communists? Who do you think financed them?

          We’re the only real game in town. Nationalists. Fascists. National Socialists.

          • akmofo October 4, 2017 at 5:31 pm #

            The same mafia that financed the commies financed the fascists.

            The commies biggest military truck plant, the biggest in the world, was a Ford plant! The same Ford who sponsored Hitler and seeded Hitler with his insane propaganda. The german conglomerate IG Farben, after it learnt how to make bombs from the nitrogen in the air needed a market for its production, and there you have WWI and WWII.

            What we need is decentralization and the outlaw of corporations. We need direct liability of business owners, and the outlaw of all business sponsorship and lobbying, political and otherwise.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 5:39 pm #

            The Jews hated Ford. They funded Communism. The Corporate World is far more unified now. Ford’s children were ashamed of him and the Ford Foundation is firmly under Judeo-Masonic control.

            Stalin hated Ford too, saying, “Communism will never succeed in America as long as Henry Ford lives.” Can you think of a great tribute? As Hitler said of him, Meanwhile in America, a Great Man works.

          • akmofo October 4, 2017 at 7:26 pm #

            Your white industrialists and heros bled the white race white. As long as you believe their racist propaganda you will be (emotionally) blind to that fact. Europe is about to be eaten alive by north africans. You can thank your white industrialists and heros for that too.

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    • FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 11:24 am #

      How is “going with the flow” works for your immortal soul?

    • onehunglo October 3, 2017 at 3:06 pm #

      janet walk in pharmacy seeking feminine protection….

      pharmacist ask, “why type of flow do you have.”

      janet reply, “Flo??!!, why I have linoleum!!!”


      • Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 3:22 pm #


        Your joke would be funnier if the second sentence began “black pharmacist ask…”

  56. 100th Avatar October 3, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

    Stain, uh, Spain, stationing troops in Valencia. Somewhere in Catalunya, grandmas and young women are in need of beatings.

  57. 100th Avatar October 3, 2017 at 12:33 pm #

    And the dripping with smug Cohen of The NY Times, a globalist champion, believes Catalonia’s future lies with the sovereignty of the EU, within Spain, but not “nationalist flags”. Sovereignty through Brussels via Madrid?! The amalgamation of culture, language, and custom, of local leadership and governance doesn’t suit him, and the failed experiment of remote control (governance) that he and his masters long for.

  58. malthuss October 3, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

    a mass exodus from public gatherings occur.

    For many, its not an exodus but an avoidance, in the future, of BIG crowds.

    • pequiste October 3, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

      I hate crowds and avoid them assiduously.

      Much prefer small, intimate venues for dining and concerts. I like to go off-season to travel almost everywhere and find that during rainy and cold weather I have many places or palaces to myself.

      Yes Malthuss, many people are going to start feeling very paranoid about such large gatherings and places.

      • Ol' Scratch October 3, 2017 at 2:52 pm #

        Likewise. Don’t even especially like small gatherings.

  59. pequiste October 3, 2017 at 1:40 pm #

    Q. Shtick, somewhere above in the comments section, makes queries regarding a first-time firearm for the novice.

    The usual suspects provide and expose their expertise, or lack of it while dispensing advice and anecdotes.

    Q., take it from me, as far as a handgun, get yourself; no, treat yourself (we are only going around once on the Merry-Go-Round eh?) to the finest device you can afford and then practice to use it.

    My strong recommendation, if you can pay the freight, is to acquire a vintage Colt Diamondback in .38 or, even better, a legendary Colt Python in .357 (it also takes .38 ammunition!). Basic blue-black for the non-glamour seeking, discreet type of chap or, and my personal fave, a blazing nickel finish in a four-inch, vent ribbed barrel. Not only two of the most desirable of classic pieces of true American craftsmanship ( with those most buttery actions;) but also a blue-chip investment that will only gain in value over time. It is akin to a Patek Phillippe watch – the non-pareil. Get one with the original box and papers – you will have an heirloom that goes boom to pass along to a deserving person. Those guns speak for themselves.

    Be safe. Take a course of instruction from a professional. Practice. Have fun.

    Good hunting!

    • Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 2:38 pm #


      Your enthusiasm is infectious. If I were a violin beginner you’d be recommending a Stradivarius rather than a Mendini.

      I’ll take your recommendation under advisement.

  60. Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 1:51 pm #


    I was hoping for some input from you on what gun I should buy.

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    • capt spaulding October 3, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

      My uncle, who is a homicide cop, carries a .22 loaded with stingers when he’s off duty. He says that a .38 or a 9mm will just punch a hole straight through you, whereas a .22 loaded with hi-velocity ammo will ricochet around, & has a better chance of hitting something vital. He has investigated hundreds of murders, and I assume he is talking through experience. I know there are lots of manly men out there who will say you need a .45 or a .357 magnum, but frankly, I’ll go with my uncle, the detective with 20 years of experience. I carry a double action Beretta loaded with stingers and I practice on a monthly basis. The ammo is cheap, and you can put 5 rounds in somebody’s head very quickly. For what it’s worth.

      • seawolf77 October 3, 2017 at 2:58 pm #

        Hollow points will blow up the size of a quarter. I use Remington Sabres and Federal Hydrashock. Beretta M9 is a great gun. Feels good in the hand, decent sights, great trigger, stays cool. Just kind of big.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

          So you don’t want to ban firearms? That would be the only issue on which you are not a classic leftist.

      • Q. Shtik October 3, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

        I carry a double action Beretta loaded with stingers – capt s


        Do you routinely carry a gun with you when you’re out and about (either open or concealed carry)? What State are you in?

        How many rounds does your Beretta hold (max allowed in NJ is 15)?

        Explain ‘double action’ vs single action (I am totally ignorant on guns).

        When you are practicing do you hold the gun with one hand or two? I assume two hands achieves greater accuracy?

        • capt spaulding October 3, 2017 at 3:40 pm #

          I have a permit to carry. Pistol holds 5 rounds plus one in the chamber. On an automatic, it means you don’t have to cock the pistol ahead of time. You just pull the trigger like a revolver, and after the first round is fired, the pistol is automatically cocked for the next shot. By the way, the ammo is called CCI Stingers. The recoil is so slight, that there’s no real reason to use both hands, although some people prefer to use both anyway. Your preference. You can find out after you practice, which you prefer. For larger calibers, two handed is best. Efficiently using any weapon, knife, sword, pistol, rifle, rocket launcher, etc., requires regular practice, same as pool. After I got married & stopped hanging out in bars, my pool game went straight to hell.

          • thwack October 3, 2017 at 8:59 pm #

            I don’t have a permit to carry; but if I need to carry I just hollow out a watermelon and carry that.

            Never had a problem.

          • daveed October 3, 2017 at 10:13 pm #

            You boys and your guns……you are a caution!
            Why don’t you just man up and go with the sawed-off?

          • elysianfield October 3, 2017 at 11:50 pm #

            “I don’t have a permit to carry; but if I need to carry I just hollow out a watermelon and carry that.

            Never had a problem.

            I think the watermelon is a great idea…I will propose that white women “melon-up” immediately. An Article in the American Thinker related that FBI statistics for 2007 reported 14,000 rapes of white women by black men. The article further stated that the number of rapes of black women by white men was…Zero. Zilch. Nada.



          • elysianfield October 3, 2017 at 11:54 pm #

            And…the link;


          • thwack October 4, 2017 at 9:29 am #

            The article further stated that the number of rapes of black women by white men was…Zero. Zilch. Nada.


            White men rape you with pens and paper.

            Just sayin

        • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

          In other words, you admit the fact that Black rape is not matched by White rape. Neither is murder, assault, or theft. Your race is a complete liability, predator-parasites.

          • thwack October 5, 2017 at 10:32 pm #


            The white race is guilty of crimes against the Universe.


            get around that you colorless wonder?

    • onehunglo October 3, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

      …still waiting for real Q. to make appearance!!


  61. sophia October 3, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

    “I hope you are kidding there Sophia because I was speaking facetiously. ”

    My apologies Walter. I thought it was out of character but I guess I don’t know everyone yet.

  62. sophia October 3, 2017 at 8:57 pm #

    ““I deserve gun protection but you don’t.”

    Indeed, if you are not allowed to defend yourself, you are not free.

  63. twomartinilunch October 3, 2017 at 10:06 pm #

    Seen and read today on the back window of a car at my orthopods office and I did not have my camera.
    “Make The Bad man Go Away”

  64. FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 10:31 pm #

    I would like to hear Boris’s rationale for this recitation. I’ll bet it was nothing nefarious and certainly had nothing to do with what happened in Vegas. == Mr.Q

    A tell-tale of Black Project spec-ops – not enough for them to kill shitload of people, they love to make little jokes about it – perfecti, what can you say…

    • FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 10:41 pm #

      The Western colored projects evolved from the corresponding Gnostic sects that took over the Western Europe, after it broke away from Christianity in 1054, and handed anathema to Eastern Orthodox Christians from the hands of Cardinal Humbert with the blessing of Pope Gregory the Great.

      One of these sects, the so-called Cathars and Albigenses, divided its members into perfecti and profaine.

      White Project binds perfecti to be good to profaine, take care of them, provide them with work and earnings, unemployment insurance, medical insurance, etc. etc., while the Western Black Project believes that profaine are half-animals and perfecti have the right and even the duty to look after their flock by limiting their numbers a la Malthus, including killing not enough useful (to them) members of the herd.

      And Red Western Project that is paradoxically closest of Western world projects to Christian anthropology, because historically denies the division of mankind into two biologically different species and considers perfecti just scams, which must be destroyed as a class, and on the top of the social pyramid lifts profaine – “just a man.” This becomes especially clear if we replace perfecti the bourgeoisie and profaine with the proletariat, or as they say in England, working class.


      profaine = deplorables

    • FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 10:47 pm #

      The Western Black Project arose before Catholicism, moreover, Catholicism is its brain-child, and the White and Red Projects are reaction to the victory of the Black Project in Western Europe, which manifested in the Great Schism of 1054.

      And I do not subscribe to the Red Project world-view; I believe that all the theory of the class struggle is canceled by the reality of the Church, if the church does not take the Black position.

      • Q. Shtik October 4, 2017 at 12:04 am #

        I hate to admit it but I haven’t the faintest idea of what you’re talking about.

        • FincaInTheMountains October 4, 2017 at 1:47 am #

          Don’t worry, just keep counting the beans.

        • Ol' Scratch October 4, 2017 at 10:26 am #

          I hate to admit it but I haven’t the faintest idea of what you’re talking about.

          Ol’ Scratch doesn’t either, but he’s not afraid to admit it.

          I believe that all the theory of the class struggle is canceled by the reality of the Church, if the church does not take the Black position.

          Ol’ Scratch certainly knows better than that. Ol’ Scratch has always loved the church dearly. That’s where all his best (read: most hypocritical) followers come from. Ol’ Scratch takes great joy in the Great White Race’s claiming to be “victimized” by the black and other “colored,” races, for Ol’ Scratch sees white people’s hearts more clearly than they see their own. What white people hate the most in others is actually a reflection of their own hatred and self-loathing. Well deserved too, he adds.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 1:32 pm #

          It’s all an attempt to get Whites to kill themselves or to lay down and let others do it.

          Don’t forget David Duke in your Will: he’s fighting so your grandchildren can live and prosper.

  65. FincaInTheMountains October 3, 2017 at 11:32 pm #

    The biggest news still nobody talks about is the situation in Syria escalated to direct fighting between Russian troops and American Special forces: successful assassination of Russian General Asapov and failed attempt to kidnap platoon of Russian Military Police (no doubt to be used in grizzly ISIS videos), followed by retaliation missile attack on the positions of American Special forces by the Russians.

    Apparently, Trump and Mattis still do not have full control of American troops in Syria.

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    • Ol' Scratch October 4, 2017 at 10:30 am #

      Ol’ Scratch celebrates the American MICC’s “full spectrum” dissembling. It might be the only truly world class weapon left in their arsenal these days.

  66. BackRowHeckler October 3, 2017 at 11:39 pm #

    I’m no firearms expert Q; indeed on this site alone there seem to be many more qualified CFNers to give out advice …

    Having said that, here goes.

    For around the house a Mossberg pump in .410 or 20 gauge. They make a .410 specifically for home security. Buy a few boxes of buckshot and some birdshot for practice and you are pretty well set for any problems that might come up around the house. The 20 gauge will give you a little more versatility; you can get one with both a security barrel and a field barrel in the package. With the field barrel you can have a little fun, using it at turkey shoots, shooting at milk jugs full of water, or impromptu ‘skeet’, which can mean as little a friend tossing tennis balls from behind you in an open field. The Model 500 has been around since 1959, it is modular, it comes apart easily and is easy to secure by a simple padlock in the action. You can get one for about $300-$325 at Dicks or Cabelas

    For a handgun check out Charter Arms medium frame revolvers in .38 cal. Made in Shelton Conn. they are a good bargain. If you look around you can probably get one new for about $350. It doesn’t have the quality of a S&W, Colt or Ruger; still, its well made and will give good service for many years. So you can see you don’t need to spend a lot of money to be fairly well armed and provide for yourself and your family a modicum of security.

    Stay away from AR or AK style rifles, or high cap magazine 9mm pistols. Leave those for Rambo.

    Also, get some training in gun safety and handling. Any gun shop or sporting goods store in your area should be able to direct you to competent instructors.

    That’s it, Ken. My advice for what its worth.


    • Q. Shtik October 4, 2017 at 12:14 am #

      Thanks for the comprehensive response. I have now received so many suggestions that I am totally confused. I had no idea we had so many gun aficionados on this blog.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 12:50 pm #

        I’m blanking on his name, the ferocious anti-Semite who writes brief and vicious posts referring to “jooies”? Hasn’t been around lately. Anyway, he strongly advocated for a short barreled .38 caliber. I think it was something by Smith & Wesson. Maybe someone else will remember. Revolvers are far more reliable and less likely to jam than automatics. The shells stay in. You don’t have to crawl around looking for them.

        • Q. Shtik October 4, 2017 at 3:30 pm #

          I’m blanking on his name, – Janos


          Jim in Florida, maybe?

          • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 5:40 pm #

            No, not Jim.

          • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 12:07 pm #

            That would be nsa….

          • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2017 at 12:48 pm #

            Yeah, him. What was the name of the firearm that he used to recommend?

          • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 5:13 pm #

            “Yeah, him. What was the name of the firearm that he used to recommend?”

            As I recall it was a S&W model 19 357 Magnum with a 2 3/4″ barrel…I think it was called the model 66 in stainless steel…this from memory. I have one, but have not looked at it in years.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2017 at 7:44 pm #

            Does it take .38 shells as well? I think he said that it did.

    • pequiste October 4, 2017 at 8:22 am #

      Oh Crud! — Dannel Malloy, Richard Blumenthal et. al. knows that BRH spends time thinking about f.i.r.e.a.r.m.s. and wants you and your family placed on the Nutmeg (State) Enemy Watch and Restriction Roster.

      For your own good, you know.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

        He dreams about guns at night. They speak to him like the great swords of old spoke to their warrior owners. Or does the sword own the man?

  67. Q. Shtik October 4, 2017 at 12:54 am #

    It is now Oct 4th and today marks 60 years since Sputnik was launched. Hard to believe, no?

    • pequiste October 4, 2017 at 8:31 am #

      An auspicious, historic moment for Humankind to remember forever.


      Good job Russkies!

      • sprawlcapital October 4, 2017 at 9:54 am #

        CCCP is pronounced, approximately, es es es air. That’s the extent of my knowledge of the Russian language. I believe Finca knows more.

        • FincaInTheMountains October 4, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

          Finca knows better

    • sprawlcapital October 4, 2017 at 9:11 am #

      I remember it like it was yesterday, Q, although it was probably the next day that the news broke and we heard about it.

      I was in third grade. My father told me, “It’s an artificial moon.” My father knew a lot.

  68. MrTibbs October 4, 2017 at 1:23 am #

    Humanity is taking its final examination. We have come to an extraordinary moment where it doesn’t have to be you or me. There is enough for all. We need not operate competitively any longer. If we succeed, it will be because of youth, truth and love.”
    – Buckminster Fuller, 1968.

    In the New Republic, destructive competition is displaced with spontaneous cooperation, and it works under all forms of economic and political systems, and is as immutable as Earth is to Universe. And constructive competition provides for the only tolerable revolution by invention and design.
    – Charles Fuller, 2018.

    The best whole earth planning is directly linked to connecting, comprehending, and integrating with the continuous receipt of gravitational waves for the love of humanity.

    The best business continuity planning is directly linked to continuity of energy.

    In the New Republic, members spontaneously link the energies of solar, wind, methane, cellulosic ethanol, diesel, biogas, high efficiency engines, battery storage, and solid state transformation, in producing microgrids representing a well-defined and distributed whole.

    ……and it’s not done for the love of money or the lust for power, but rather the love of humanity.


  69. trypillian October 4, 2017 at 2:02 am #

    There is no need to be concerned about tropical infectious deseases in Houston or Florida. Your friendly neighbourhood shadow government has been hard at work spraying the nice people with highly toxic anti mosquito nano particulates. After injusting the wondrous poison from C-130 transports you will then be offered complimentary vaccine injections. There are about six diseases of interest and you will be vaxxed about six times. On returning to your homes you will be subjected to bacterial, viral, fungus and mold infestations. A new species of rats the size house cats will share your cozy abode. All of the above will hasten a comprimised immune system jump starting a plethora of deseases for you and your family; anyone of which will render you impoverished. This scenario is being done in Puerto Rico, except for the jumbo rats which are already there.

    • volodya October 4, 2017 at 10:59 am #

      I saw a blurb on the TV on some restaurant in Europe (probably France) that served up rats. Of course, with that kind of close contact, you know, killing, skinning, cleaning, cooking, there’s always the chance of contracting some nasty flea or tick-spread disease. Like the plague. But if you’re hungry….

      • pequiste October 4, 2017 at 6:19 pm #

        It was already a San Francisco treat:


  70. volodya October 4, 2017 at 10:29 am #

    The BBC sez the leader of Catalonia told them that they will declare independence within a matter of days.

    The war in Syria started out as just a minor dust-up. So we’ll see the trajectory this one takes.

    War of secession or no? Place your bets.

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    • Ol' Scratch October 4, 2017 at 11:28 am #

      Minor skirmish. Much bigger events are already underway.

      • volodya October 4, 2017 at 11:54 am #

        Bigger events such as what you refer to below? I see Brexit and this Catalonia thing as part of a bigger pattern. You see nationalist parties all over Europe – Germany, Hungary, Poland France, Scotland. The economic demolition you talk about below isn’t just n American thing, rather it’s widespread all over the western world. And people are mighty pissed about their livelihoods going bye-bye to sweatshops all over the world.

        There was the example of the Slovak truck drivers hauling for IKEA in western Europe. IKEA was required to pay them Slovak level wages – 400 euros a month. In comparison, Danish drivers were paid on the order of 2,000 euros a month. Now this required Slovak drivers to live in their trucks as nobody can live on 400 a month anywhere in western Europe, or at least not where these Slovaks were driving.

        This is where the impetus for a EU crack-up is coming from. The original European Community idea was pre-emptive surrender by France to Germany ie a war-avoidance measure. But over time the idea of the EU expanded. Now they’re expanding the EU to impoverished European countries for the sake of using low-wage Eastern European labor to undermine Western European wages. Western European workers have been ruined, Eastern Europeans don’t want to kow-tow to Western European based bureaucracies.

        And then there’s offshoring to China. Same problem in Europe as in America.

        American Oligarchs wrecked the US and built up China for the sake of their own bottom lines. If this wasn’t treason then find me a better word.

        • 100th Avatar October 4, 2017 at 1:51 pm #


          • volodya October 4, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

            good choice

    • pequiste October 4, 2017 at 6:29 pm #

      The Germans will think of a creative solution to “help things along”
      in Spain versus Catalunya.

      I’m guessing that, a la the Spanish Civil War of the 1930s, the Germans will send, not the Condor Legion to the fray this time, but instead a reconstituted 13th Waffen Mountain Division, S.S. Handschar contingent:


      Then a trip over the Pyrennes to join up with the Yzlamik Fifth column already in France and voila — instant Al Andalus redux plus the long desired Franco Kaliphate courtesy of Merkel and Freunds.

  71. Ol' Scratch October 4, 2017 at 11:26 am #

    Some of you still see things clearly and are resistant to my temptations. More of you should listen:

    The American empire is coming to an end. The U.S. economy is being drained by wars in the Middle East and vast military expansion around the globe. It is burdened by growing deficits, along with the devastating effects of deindustrialization and global trade agreements. Our democracy has been captured and destroyed by corporations that steadily demand more tax cuts, more deregulation and impunity from prosecution for massive acts of financial fraud, all the while looting trillions from the U.S. treasury in the form of bailouts. The nation has lost the power and respect needed to induce allies in Europe, Latin America, Asia and Africa to do its bidding. Add to this the mounting destruction caused by climate change and you have a recipe for an emerging dystopia. Overseeing this descent at the highest levels of the federal and state governments is a motley collection of imbeciles, con artists, thieves, opportunists and warmongering generals. And to be clear, I am speaking about Democrats, too.

    The empire will limp along, steadily losing influence until the dollar is dropped as the world’s reserve currency, plunging the United States into a crippling depression and instantly forcing a massive contraction of its military machine.

    Short of a sudden and widespread popular revolt, which does not seem likely, the death spiral appears unstoppable, meaning the United States as we know it will no longer exist within a decade or, at most, two. The global vacuum we leave behind will be filled by China, already establishing itself as an economic and military juggernaut, or perhaps there will be a multipolar world carved up among Russia, China, India, Brazil, Turkey, South Africa and a few other states. Or maybe the void will be filled, as the historian Alfred W. McCoy writes in his book “In the Shadows of the American Century: The Rise and Decline of US Global Power,” by “a coalition of transnational corporations, multilateral military forces like NATO, and an international financial leadership self-selected at Davos and Bilderberg” that will “forge a supranational nexus to supersede any nation or empire.”


    • Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 1:29 pm #

      Quite so, Da. Indeed America is on the skids. Recently an open Communist graduated from West Point. No doubt they prefer people like that or people like you to White Christian Patriots. In other words, they are cutting off their noses to spite their face.

      I mean if you took an oath to serve and protect it meant absolutely nothing. Ditto for the Commie punk.

    • seawolf77 October 4, 2017 at 1:43 pm #

      Professor Johan Galtung of Norway predicted America will disintegrate much like the USSR by 2025. After George W Bush was elected, he considered him an accelerant, and moved it up to 2020. If I remember he said 6 individual states: New England, The Rust Belt, the Deep South, The West Coast, Texas, Middle America like Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas.

      • messianicdruid October 5, 2017 at 11:33 am #

        Where do “the Nations” fit into this?

        I think each one will be on its own since most are about county size [ Osage being the largest ]. Many could band together to form larger groups, or ideally all tribes in the state could form an alliance.

        Makes ya wonder.

  72. Billy Hill October 4, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

    “President Trump should immediately order the confiscation of all firearms of any kind, including pistols, semiautomatics, and single shots. All guns should be confiscated from citizens and non-citizensby Trump.”

    Ah, vintage Janet… like a breath of stale air.

    Have been traveling by car listening to the shell-shocked opine on yak radio (nothing gnu there). Deja Vu all over again.

    C’mon Janet. Forget confiscation. Besides your beloved open Southern border would leak more firearms than drugs. And how’s that War on Drugs going anyway?

    Maybe — and that’s a huge maybe — one might propose to link big pharma’s database with the NICS database (don’t kid yourself if you filled out the form and the FFL made the call).

    Sometimes there is no solution. Sometimes the bottom line of the report is “I don’t know.”

  73. Janos Skorenzy October 4, 2017 at 1:42 pm #


    Whites begin to fight back. The Government blubbers – after a stunning defeat – “We never wanted to accuse anyone of make anyone feel guilty”. What rubbish. That was the whole point – rule by terror.

  74. Elrond Hubbard October 4, 2017 at 2:54 pm #

    Gun stocks see milder-than-usual rise after Last Vegas shooting
    Mass shootings tend to spur a gun sales upswing, but the tepid reaction reflects increasing skepticism that mass shootings will influence the law.


    “Stock prices for firearm companies rose this week after a gunman killed dozens of people in Las Vegas, an apparent continuation of a morbid trend linked to mass shootings.

    “But investors were more muted than they had been in recent years, a sign of Wall Street’s increasing skepticism about how much influence mass shootings can exert on gun control legislation, especially in a Trump administration.”

    Turns out the pornography of violence works out they way they say all pornography does: Bigger and bigger shocks leading to less and less reaction. Soon enough, America won’t be able to get it up at all.

  75. FincaInTheMountains October 4, 2017 at 3:03 pm #

    Presentation of Credentials

    “Newsweek” is a very muddy source, once known as the waste bin of the Clinton State Department, and the article in it is something that requires verification.

    Nevertheless, I will venture to interpret a very muddy article in this very muddy source, since this time this turbidity is a sign of its reliability. Literally it sounds like this:

    Putin met with America’s new ambassador to Russia on Tuesday and audaciously ORDERED the U.S. to stay out of Russia’s domestic politics

    But the choice of expressions in this article to describe his words in combination with additional circumstances (for example, the heading under which this article appeared in Yahoo news feed), says that in response to accusations of Russian interference in the election campaign in the United States, Putin gently hinted to Huntsman, that if he behaves the same way as his predecessors, his ass will fly out of Russia with a Second Cosmic Speed (To the Moon, again?!)


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  76. FincaInTheMountains October 4, 2017 at 6:26 pm #

    Double standards become terrorists’ brand

    When in Charlottesville, a young man went on a business trip and decided to take his cat to his mother, he hardly expected that in a few hours the cat’s imprisonment in a special transportation box would be an act of terrorism. But when he and the cat passed by the AntiFa fight with the supporters of Trump protesting the demolition of the monument to General Lee, the young man became frenzied and crashed into AntiFa crowd, which was immediately interpreted by the media as a pre-meditated terrorist act.

    But when a sniper on Trump’s birthday comes to the baseball field at 7am, where the Republican Party’s Whip and Trump’s closest friend is engaged in sports (which could not be known to a wide range of people) and shoots congressman Scalise, this is an act of a madman.

    Well, naturally a madman’s act is the shoot-up of a crowd of 20 thousand listeners of country music, among which the supporters of Hillary Clinton were no more than a hundred.

    And this madman managed not only to carry more than 150 kilos of weapons and ammunition into the hotel room, but also to shoot them all in 15 minutes, practically without a miss, and at the stage of preparing the site for his madness, to choose a position with an ideal angle of the shooting. And these circumstances are recognized by the leading experts in ballistics and snipers of the US Army and an article about it appears in the Los Angeles Times:


    Naturally, both the shooting of congressman Scalise and the shooting of the crowd of country music lovers in Las Vegas, most of Trump’s supporters consider an act of terrorism, not directed against Trump and his closest assistants, as in the case of Scalise, but against Trump’s voters, that is, from their point of view, against the American people.

    And the US Army by publishing its expert opinion so quickly unequivocally stated that in the upcoming battles it will be on the side of the people.

  77. Q. Shtik October 5, 2017 at 12:10 am #


    It was NSA who used the term jooies.

  78. tucsonspur October 5, 2017 at 12:49 am #

    Damn right, Buck. Thanks for the compliment above.

    I have a DVD titled “Gunsmith of Williamsburg”. It shows the build of a flintlock rifle “from the selection of wood, shaping and carving of the gunstock to the casting, forging, finishing, and embellishment of all metal parts”.

    Yes, this includes the pan, frizzen, frizzen spring and hammer.

    You would enjoy the display of craftsmanship ( Peq mentions this above regarding some other guns). And this craftsmanship eventually leads to exquisite artistry, as displayed in the Arms and Armor collection at the Met in NY.


    • Buck Stud October 5, 2017 at 2:07 am #

      Awesome stuff tuscon thanks for posting the link.

      Serious men working with their hands on serious objects they way these artisans/craftsmen did is something magnificent indeed.

      Nowadays a lot of the gunstock carvers uses rotary dental tools, or adaptations based on. Many of the designs are sort of cliche–a buck jumping over a fallen tree and with an oak and acorn border halo, for example ( and it’s hard to envision a lunatic mass murderer handling “art” and murdering simultaneously)–and the work looks a bit too fine as compared to real by-hand tools–IMO.

      • capt spaulding October 5, 2017 at 8:26 am #

        It’s also hard to envision a mass murderer killing 58 people with a flintlock.

        • Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 9:00 pm #

          Nonetheless, Ol’ Scratch encourages you all to envision it!

  79. Buck Stud October 5, 2017 at 1:37 am #

    “They must get tired of playing the same old hits. Any real musician would. Or are you saying he loved some other kind of music far more, like Jerry Garcia loving Bluegrass way more than he cared for the Rock?” –Janos

    I was saying the Dead and his band toured together and had a mutual admiration thing going but I presume he burned out on Free Fallin from time to time while being invigorated and re-inspired by it at other moments.

    Even the Dead, with all their deserving improvisational legacy, no doubt burned out too. As Bruce Hornsby stated, the Dead also have a routine of sorts; that even the ‘structureless form’ moments need a structure as foil in order to garner the counter antagonistic effect from which movement/energy arises.

    I just missed honoring Janis on the day of her death Janos, but now is close enough. Down below the Dead in a smoldering version of Bird Song, written in honor of Janis.

    And oh by the way, one of your Teutonic God’s is having way too much fun on the totem pole behind Jerry:


    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

      Yes, it’s an important issue. One great White Nationalist thinker resigned from the ministry because he hated speaking when he had nothing to say and wasn’t inspired. He felt that doing so, lead to the corruption of the ministry, with people just going thru the motions – which leads to the corruption of the very soul itself.

  80. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 2:21 am #

    Frank Sinatra: Come You Back To Mandalay


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  81. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 3:45 am #

    Iron Curtain 2.0: Washington admits its defeat in the information war against Russia

    Russian network RT must register as foreign agent in US

    The company that runs the U.S. version of RT, the Russian state-owned outlet originally known as Russia Today, must register with the Justice Department as a foreign agent, signaling that all of their content would be labeled as propaganda from Moscow.


    It is remarkable that there was nothing better than the law of 1938 at the hands of the American authorities aimed at combating the media of Nazi Germany. However, this law was never later applied against the media of other countries.

    Such media giants as BBC or Deutsche Welle are also funded by Britain and Germany to promote the interests of their countries abroad. And what about the “Voice of America” or “Radio Liberty”, which are funded by the US government. That is nothing new, and even more so, there is nothing illegal in this. And here is a new precedent.

    According to the requirements of the Americans, if RT wants to continue working in the US, from the end of October the Russian television channel will almost every day have to report personal data of employees, all information regarding all of its contacts, as well as transcripts of programs. Accordingly, representatives of the TV channel simply will not have time for their direct duties, or the expenditure part of the channel’s activity will increase substantially.

    Margarita Simonyan – RT editor-in-chief (Armenian)


    The official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russian Federation, Maria Zakharova, also stressed that the actions of the US administration are contrary to the principles of freedom of speech, and stated a possible response to the actions of the US, which will include appropriate restrictions on the activities of American media in Russia.


    • Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 7:13 am #

      As the American Imperium comes to a close, it will be imperative that Russia, China, and others work to contain and minimize US madness. The continental US should be fairly straight forward, once the nukes are sequestered anyway, but Europe – the origin for all this industrial capitalist mess – might be a tougher nut to crack. Or, perhaps they’ll simply devolve into yet another regional war, as they have historically been wont to do. Take US nukes and military assistance out of the picture and that could probably be contained and allowed to mercifully play itself out.

  82. Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 7:03 am #

    Poor old Cam Newton – now officially labeled “sexist” forevermore – wades into a hornet’s nest after a frank exchange with Charlotte Observer Reporter Jourdan Rodrigue:

    JR: “Cam, I know you take a lot of pride in seeing your receivers play well. Devin Funchess has seemed to really embrace the physicality of his routes and getting those extra yards. Does that give you a little bit of enjoyment to see him kind of truck-sticking people out there?”

    CN: “It’s funny to hear a female talk about routes, like… It’s funny.”

    Ol’ Scratch just loves the current battle between the sexes and the righteous indignation of the holier than thou female upstarts. Does Cam Newton have some sexist views that he was frank/naive enough not to conceal publicly on this occasion? Certainly. Does that make him worthy of faux public ridicule and outrage for a single remark? Certainly, provided one wants to advance one’s own narrow agenda at the expense of arriving at whatever larger “truths” such stupid interviews about meaningless subjects such as football route running provide in the first place.

    Ol’ Scratch just loves to encourage such trivial disputes in the western “free press” among the selfish and decadent western peoples as their time on the cultural throne comes to a rather messy end. Ol’ Scratch has seen and encouraged all this many times before, but never, ever grows tired or ceases to be amazed at the speed and ferocity such historical unwindings take on once they are underway. Rest assured, Ol’ Scratch will be right there with every last one of you during your coming times of tribulation encouraging you all to embrace your inner demons!

    • Q. Shtik October 5, 2017 at 10:44 pm #

      Ol’ Scratch just loves the current battle between the sexes – Ol’ Scratch


      Allow me to make two points regarding your comment:

      1. You have taken on a new handle and a somewhat new persona that is distinguished by regularly speaking in the 3rd person as if Ol’ Scratch was an entity other than yourself. I think you’ll find that 9 out of 10 people do not like people speaking in the 3rd person. If you want to hear a notable 3rd person speaker find some footage of baseball great Ricky Henderson being interviewed after a game. It’ll grate on your ears real quick.

      2. I am appalled that the media is seriously complaining about how Cam Newton responded to a female sports journalist who asked a somewhat complex question about Cam’s receivers running “routes.” To paraphrase, Cam said he thought it was ‘funny’ hearing a female ask questions about “routes.” The liberal media exploded in anger as if to say ‘why can’t a woman be knowledgeable enough about football to ask a question about “routes?” Well sure, there is (are?) a handful of women versed in football lingo but as a practical matter the average woman has no knowledge or interest in the subject. The liberal wants to pretend that there is no difference between males and females when we all know deep down that their interests and their lives are totally different. As I have stated many times, they may as well be different species. This flap is the epitome of political correctness being crammed down a sports star’s throat. It was even discussed at some length on the CNBC business show. Cam might actually incur some sort of a fine for his remarks which, even if it’s thousands of dollars, would be less than a drop in the bucket to him. It’s the principle dammit!

  83. thwack October 5, 2017 at 9:17 am #

    There is much confusion and contradictory info emerging about the Vegas shooter; but disappointment is usually the mother of rebellion?

    It appeared he was lived the white male American wet dream?

    Stable employment throughout life. Steady matriculation. Retirement with MITB (money in the bank) and a real estate. Asian girlfriend…

    Whats the problem here?


    Im starting to suspect somebody, somewhere, fucked him over big time?

    Not necessarily out of money; but something that meant more than money to him?

    Something that left him with a deep sense of betrayal?


    Maybe he was sitting at a poker machine one day, winning all kinds of money, and suddenly, without warning, it just hit him that it was all meaningless, and that Vegas is a creepy, sterile, nihilistic, parasitic construct, that lived off




    • seawolf77 October 5, 2017 at 9:30 am #

      Las Vegas is the creepiest, sleaziest, disgusting city I have ever been to. Driving through it makes you want to take a shower. Spending the night is akin to performing oral sex on a hooker. Why anyone would ever want to go there more than once is beyond me.

      • Epicur October 5, 2017 at 10:57 am #

        I’ve been to Vegas four times – on business – and have not tarried once the job was done. It is a plastic, empty place, at least as far as the tourist areas and those parts populated by the drifters and grifters go.

        I’ve been told that there is actually a native population that is as solid as any other American city, but I’ve never seen them. Vegas used to have more churches, per capita, than any other city of its size category.

        It is a strange place.

      • Q. Shtik October 5, 2017 at 11:38 am #

        Forget the gambling casinos and just go out and visit some wonderful landscapes in the vicinity of Vegas.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 10:36 am #

      Something that left him with a deep sense of betrayal?

      Most likely, somebody left his corpse on the crime scene before the crime…

      • Q. Shtik October 5, 2017 at 11:42 am #

        I’m wondering why I haven’t seen any reports of how he killed himself. Was it a shot to the head and was he found with the gun still in his hand?

    • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

      Good, honest post.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2017 at 2:28 pm #

        Yes, the ancients were always ready to say “the Black” as in St Moses the Black. It was so astonishing for a Black to do something positive, real man bites dog stuff.

        • thwack October 5, 2017 at 4:49 pm #

          uh oh?

          I think I struck an existential nerve in Janos?

          I guess my critique of the seeds of purposelessness within the white male success model may have struck a little too close to home ehh?

          Thats alright, you’re a big boy… you and your Asian wife can lift weights and convert to Islam some other day.

    • Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 9:14 pm #

      Ol’ Scratch thinks that the one known as Thwack is wiser than he often lets on. Ol’ Scratch thinks he’ll have to put in overtime to win Thwack over to the dark side.

      • thwack October 5, 2017 at 10:44 pm #


        (((shaking my head)))

        I was born between a trillion midnights; back up in the corner of a negro grave site…

        and you wanna win ME over to the dark side?

        If you even DREAM of trying such a stunt you better wake up and apologize.

        BTW– yo hair line is fucked up like a football bat.

        Just sayin

  84. Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 10:33 am #

    As a reminder to those who fear my pernicious influence most, there are those living among you as we speak for whom I have no influence over whatsoever, so it can be done. Dmitry Orlov is one of those people, so for my sake whatever you do, please don’t emulate him!


    Americans see enemies everywhere, but they are being specifically programmed to fear those they are already prejudiced against: minorities, the underclass, criminals, foreigners, terrorists… In turn, what makes all of the above so scary is ignorance: there is no fear like fear of the unknown. This forms a vicious cycle in which prejudice reinforces ignorance (since people tend to disregard those they disrespect), ignorance reinforces fear (of the unknown) and as people attempt to assuage their fear by denigrating their perceived enemy, fear reinforces prejudice.

    This type of programming has numerous advantages. Fear drives up sales of guns and ammo, properties within gated communities and “white” communities in general, and anti-anxiety medications. It justifies huge law enforcement and military budgets and provides the rationale for intrusive surveillance systems. Programmed fears are also useful for misdirecting people, preventing them from looking at things they should perhaps fear most, which should perhaps include financial and economic collapse, political dissolution and violent conflict, social upheaval and environmental disaster due to decrepit and failing infrastructure.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 10:46 am #

      With all due respect, I completely disagree with Mr. Orlov’s collapse theories, especially in regards to the USSR.

      In particular, he completely ignores the driving force behind disintegration of the Red Empire – betrayal of the Communist and KGB elites and their hot desire to become owners of the former Soviet property and join the ranks of the Global Elites.

      • thwack October 5, 2017 at 11:38 am #

        In other words, it was a Slavic Reformation based on the English model; i.e nothing about theology, just pure raw theft.

        • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 12:30 pm #

          The real story of “privatization” of Soviet property that happened in 1990s is sill waiting to be told.

          How Larry Summers was carrying suitcases full of cash, how Clintons printed 20 trillion dollars no backed by anything, but future dollar-denominated trade in the largest piece of real estate in the history of real estate.

          And when Putin stopped that madness cold, the money hung and threatened to destroy the Western financial system as early as 2001, if not for Bush Jr. channeling all that money into real estate pyramid.

          One of many reasons why they hate Putin’s guts, and may be Bush Jr. as well.

          But to the Russian people it cost more lives in prematurely dead and unborn, than the World War II.

          • ozone October 5, 2017 at 6:15 pm #

            I’m seeing only a tiny portion of the big picture in what you propound (and pound and pound and pound).

            In my considered opinion, Orlov has more credibility in his careful analysis than your far-flung, pseudo-historical, pseudo-religious crankery.

            Sorry, but I find your rants to be distractionary bullshit, for the most part. I see your “input” mostly after thoughtful postings. Is there contemporary insights we’re forbidden to be considering; is that it? (I see exactly the same gobbledy-gook by vladdie and the alter-ego thwack after something that feebly attempts to glimmer in the usual murk.)

          • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2017 at 7:53 pm #

            Exactly the same? Oh ye of little discrimination. Still asking telephone poles out on dates I suppose? You’re an asshole. Same as a cunt, right?

            I remember how you used to play up to that Black gay guy who used to post here. It made you feel so virtuous. A twofer! Thwack would never do that…..

          • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 9:45 pm #

            Ozone, you are emotional – the good theory, and Orlov is putting forward a collapse theory – only good if it could be verified by practical experiment – that’s called a principle of modern scientific method.

            For instance, knowing the initial position of a space body. its initial velocity and the intense of its star’s gravitational field, using Newton’s classical mechanic you could fairly accurately predict the position of that body at some future point in time.

            That’s exactly what elevates Newton’s theoretical speculations into a great scientific theory.

            Try the same thing with Orlov’s collapse theory and try predicting with any degree of accuracy any future trend in human society – like emergence of Trump’s revolution in America.

            It would be like searching for your asshole with both hands under a bright day light and failing to find it.

      • Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 8:52 pm #

        Respectfully, evidently you haven’t actually read anything Mr Orlov has to say Mr Finca, but I applaud your right to say it. For has been said many times, I TOO am a “great deceiver” of no small repute, so “party on dude,” as some of you are fond of saying.

    • messianicdruid October 5, 2017 at 11:21 am #

      I bought some Himalayan Pink Sea Salt yesterday by McCormick. You take the lid off and turn it upside down and grind it out just like fresh pepper. While doing this the sound of it reminded me of your new moniker [ scratch ] . Now I put scratch on my hard boiled eggs.

      • Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 8:54 pm #

        Thank you Druid. I will try to find some Druid to add to mine as well.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

      After massacres, people are encouraged not to give in to fear and go shopping instead – and countless soft fools self righteously obey. Nothing is more natural than to feel fear when threatened – and the do something about it. Buying guns is a great idea. Let the Enemy and his Orcs face a marksman behind every glade of brass.

      • Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 8:56 pm #

        I thank you Janos, my faithful servant! I highly encourage that as well!

  85. elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 12:33 pm #

    The media still trumpets that over 500 people were injured…but how many shot? How many shot directly, not suffering from ricochet? The media is not differentiating between those shot and those injured in the ensuing panic.

    Any of the readership found a list of those “injured”, and how so? I would expect that fewer than 100 of the injured suffered gunshot wounds…either direct or indirect….this is but a wild-assed guess on my part….

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    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

      The forensics report would be very interesting. All the bullets entering from a steep angle? Many claim a second shooter was operating from the 4th floor.

    • thwack October 5, 2017 at 1:00 pm #

      I wasn’t even there, but I went to the hospital anyway and got treated for an old lifting injury.

      • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 5:18 pm #

        Bar of soap?

  86. Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2017 at 1:01 pm #


    Our Bumpstock is going up.

  87. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 2:44 pm #

    Conspirologists, of course, are already hinting that the massacre in Vegas is an attack on Trump and the Second Amendment to the American Constitution.

    It would be better, of course, if conspiracies theorists were right.

    Because the brain refuses to believe that in our time an ordinary person can sit on the 32nd floor of the hotel and start shooting the crowd from a machine gun with such devastating results.

    This is already something pre-apocalyptic. It is too early, in my opinion.

    • elysianfield October 5, 2017 at 5:27 pm #

      Because the brain refuses to believe that in our time an ordinary person can sit on the 32nd floor of the hotel and start shooting the crowd from a machine gun with such devastating results. ”

      Aww, C’mon Finc, confine a mass of 20,000+ people in a small area… the mind does accept it…think Kaytn Forest…Poland….

      • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

        350 pounds of guns + ammunition sneaked into upscale hotel room?


        • ozone October 5, 2017 at 6:30 pm #

          Yep, bullshit again, Finca.
          Must I be the declaimer of the ultra-obvious?

          Las Vegas is THE convention town. Mountains of display and demo shit goes in and out of hotel rooms there. (Kinda, 24/7/365.) NOTHING unusual about someone bringing many cases of “unknown” crap to their room.

          What do you think the hotels are gonna do? Metal-detect and scan everything that comes in? If they do, they’re gonna lose their “market share” as convention city mighty damn quick. (Jesus, this doesn’t take a fucking genius to figure, so I guess it’s just another steering device.)

          • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 9:34 pm #

            Vegas hotels are nuts about security – they do not want unpleasant accidents disturbing their lucrative operations.

            Their maids are routinely searching the rooms in the absence of the guests for anything suspicious – and our guy was not room-bound, he went down for some gambling.

  88. tucsonspur October 5, 2017 at 5:38 pm #

    “Spending the night (in Vegas) is akin to performing oral sex on a hooker”. Seawolf77

    Spend more than twenty bucks and stay out of the flop houses and flea joints.

  89. tucsonspur October 5, 2017 at 6:20 pm #

    “….and that Vegas is a creepy, sterile, nihilistic, parasitic construct…”

    Good points in a good post.

    Let me vice signal and mention the fact that I’ve been there many, many times. You have to know what the place is, what you’re getting into.

    It can all seem meaningless anywhere, but having that thought overtake you in Las Vegas can really be dangerous, especially for the emotionally and mentally unstable. Most people easily handle the cold, empty reality that Vegas can deal out.

    Cantcha take the ugly truth guys? That sex and money spins the world? Vegas speaks that truth loud and clear, however distastefully.

    The other side of the coin is that it can be a lot fun and a great escape. Good food, good poker, good shows and good fights.

    What is the black American Dream? Don’t blacks want the same as whites, generally speaking?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2017 at 7:49 pm #

      The problem is the suburbs that have grown around it. A man used to be able walk right out into the desert and purify himself. Maybe even meet Coyote or the Walking Dude or the whatsamacallit, the Navajo Wendigo.

      • tucsonspur October 5, 2017 at 8:33 pm #

        You don’t want to meet Coyote. Watch out for shape shifters. For a second I thought Wendigo was “that hairy-handed gent who ran amuck in Kent”. But that was the werewolf, who “lately has been overheard in Mayfair”.

        The development is mind boggling. When will the hordes be fleeing, back into California or up into Utah? The great battle of St. George is coming.

      • Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 8:42 pm #

        LOL! As if the desert could purify what either Las Vegas OR suburbs have wrought. Las Vegas is nothing more than western culture purified and distilled into its most potent essence, much like the drugs imported from its many foreign war zones meant to enslave its users and enrich their masters.

        The “problem” is no more complex than some men (mostly white, but always aspiring to be) who deem themselves racially, morally, and culturally superior to all others (a false justification if there ever was one), who trade on the pain and misery of not only their fellow human beings, but their fellow species and entire environment as well, for personal gain.

        Some things are so simple that even silly humans could understand it, if they’d only try. Thankfully, they won’t. Rest assured, I’m counting on it.


        Ol’ Scratch

  90. Ol' Scratch October 5, 2017 at 9:34 pm #

    In yet another example of capitalist “maximum value extraction,” the NFL’s proven and widely ridiculed Thursday Night Football experiment – complete with “Color Rush” uniforms – continues to roll on and diminish whatever little “brand credibility” the rapidly failing league has left in a nation awash in faux “entertainment value” competing for their rapidly decreasing disposable dollars.

    Ol’ Scratch continues to encourage all of you “deplorables” to waste what little precious resources you have in pursuit of such momentary “pleasures,” all in the interests of “the economy,” of course.

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    • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2017 at 9:52 pm #

      Were you in your previous incarnation Mr. Darling? Just askin’..

  91. tucsonspur October 5, 2017 at 11:12 pm #

    Sounds like he just crawled out of the holler, with filthy, threadbare overalls and rotten, tobacco stained teeth, tryin’ to now flog whitey and capitalism, since, tired of being beaten, his own kids and dogs abandoned him long ago.

    A tired, hateful, stinkin’ ol’ fool who would have Vegas casino patrons dashing for the exits once he entered. He could then scoop up their winnings and harangue the capitalist dogs.

  92. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2017 at 6:18 am #

    The Hamburg Score

    The Hamburg Score is the phraseology of the Russian language, which denotes a genuine system of values free from immediate circumstances and selfish interests.

    The expression “according to the Hamburg score” goes back to the legend told by Viktor Shklovsky.


    This parable formed the basis of the prologue of his homonymous book “The Hamburg Score” (1928). “Hamburg Score” was a real balance of strength and skill of circus wrestlers, while in the circus arena the winner of the bout was determined by agreement in advance.

    The Hamburg Score is an extremely important concept

    All wrestlers, when they fight, cheat and go down at the order of the manager.

    Once a year, wrestlers gather in a Hamburg pub.
    They fight with closed doors and windows curtained.
    Long, ugly and hard.

    Here, the true classes of wrestlers are established, so as not to completely succumb to botchery.

  93. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2017 at 6:45 am #

    According to the Hamburg Score, gravitational waves are now the most important topic of modern physics and it is very important that the new president of the Russian Academy of Sciences has the most direct relation in this discovery.

    The fact is that for the last 60 years (and possibly more) the Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity(GTR), in which gravitation is not a field, but geometry, has been castrated by the scientific community and instead of it a gauge invariant crap was created which could not even be called a theory.

    And I can attest to the fact that in the early 90s the GTR in the United States was suppressed with the administrative measures, although certain achievements were already made, but any attempt to question the gauge invariant crap was seen as a reason for complete disqualification and riot on the ship.

    Survived almost only the giants who made a name for themselves before the first flight to the Moon, and one of these giants was Kip Thorne, the author of the famous book “Gravitation” (Misner, Charles W.; Kip S. Thorne; John Archibald Wheeler), which justifies and even gives an additional development of a “geometric” approach to general relativity.

    It was this book that I studied GTR by and, as far as I understand it, it remains relevant so far, since the author saved himself from the Clinton pogrom by escaping to the Universal studios, where he became Hollywood’s chief consultant on the topic of space-time curves as a way of constructing time machines and also interplanetary flights.

    He even wrote a very serious work on a time machine in which pretending to kiss the gauge-invariant ass while gnawing at it and generally tearing apart in the course of a completely murderous demonstration of the delusiveness of the modern physics.

    Kip Thorne is the only theorist among Nobel laureates and, if not to hold priests of gauge invariant crap as scientists, then almost the last physicist theorist after Stephen Hawking, of course.

    Stephen Hawking was also hounded for his argument that the Higgs boson would be discovered and he, like Hamlet, pretended to be a psycho and escaped into predictions of predatory aliens and evil asteroids.

  94. Beryl of Oyl October 6, 2017 at 9:51 am #

    I’m late to the table with these posts, but I wanted to say something anyway, because as I’ve seen the talk abruptly switch from the shooting to gun control, it looks an awful lot to me like that is what this was all about.
    We have people claiming the elected president will be taken out with a coup (and thinking that’s funny), then we see an appalling act of violence almost immediately turn to gun control and the NRA (the NRA is not a governmental body, kids) and just yesterday (I’m writing this on Friday) I saw a Hollywood biggie admit to decades of horrible treatment of women, given a pass because he’s pledged to fight the NRA and the president.
    BTW, he said it was because he’s a sixties/seventies guy, that’s why he acted the way he did. He’s an old white dude who has seen the light.
    Don’t you old white dudes get tired of this?

  95. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2017 at 12:08 pm #

    The loss for the American Party of War – is not the loss for the entire American elite. The main game for it is not on the military-political, but on the financial-political field. Military threats are needed by the current Nationalist-Globalist regime in the US as a political lever for pressure on the Middle Eastern, Far Eastern, European allies to force them to pay at least part of the costs associated with the forced transition to a fundamentally different strategy of maintaining the dollar as one of the world’s currencies.

    An attempt to destabilize and chaotize the Old World, and at the same time squeezing neighbors in the New World to stimulate the flight of capital to the US as a whole failed, but at least in part this resource can be used.

    US have to bend the allies to purchase not only weapons, but also energy resources, and US financial assets at prices that are obviously too high by several times.

    That’s why it is necessary to keep all the “allies” in shape – to threaten both Kiev and Europe with exacerbation in the western regions of Ukraine, since the Donbass does not yield to provocations, but on the contrary – Russia has seriously undertaken to promote the peacekeeping mission. Again, the only thing that could counter – a purely virtual initiative on the “reform of the UN” with a proposal to officially castrate the already impotent Security Council. Although by doing so, the US can deprive itself of the right to vote on the security issues of most of the Old World.

    And yet, for all the importance of the auxiliary military-political and propaganda fronts, and despite all the smokescreens, the chief financial and political front should be in focus now. All the successes or failures of US foreign policy culminate in key decisions of the Fed. Or in the absence of such promised decisions. Keep the whole world in tense expectation of raising rates, but in the end, not raise, but try to keep the situation suspended further – that’s all that the highest political authority of a unipolar global superstructure is capable of today.

    It is this absence of the main event of the fall that characterizes the overall situation in global politics. Neither there nor here is a clinch of branches of the global financial oligarchy, the way out of which is only in the activity of a third-party force based on the sovereignty of the Nation-states.

    Elites of the USA mediocratically squandered their main resource for fighting among each other, for the attempts to retake and replay the already played round of the political struggle.

    And only now the weakened Institution of the President will try to take control of the Fed during the appointment of its chairman. While in Russia, taking of Central Bank under control, and now of major backbone banks, is in full swing.

    Therefore, it seems that Russia will approach the forthcoming “regime change” in global politics in a fully managed state. China with its party system also has time, although it is more dependent on external London bankers, but they depend on China as well.

    But whether the elites of the USA will have time to overcome their schisms for the remaining few months or even weeks and build at least some manageability is a question. Even more vulnerable position of European elites is unlikely to be a great comfort for Americans.

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  96. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2017 at 12:32 pm #

    Chronicles of the World Civil War

    Four days ago in Las Vegas this war went into a hot phase and Trump’s supporters all felt being in the crosshairs of the Deep State killers.

    And it’s no wonder – everyone understands that the mega terrorist act in Las Vegas was directed not at Trump, but at Trump’s voters and the appearance in the US of the term Enemy of the People is a matter of time now.

    And the contempt for the mass media, who saw in an obvious terrorist attack the insane outburst of a madman reached such a level that BBC yesterday openly said that such a terrorist act could not be planned and implemented by one person, and President Trump demanded investigation of the media that, against the background of such a terrorist attack, began to spread lies about Secretary of State Tillerson calling President Trump a moron, with the sole purpose of driving a wedge between the two.



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