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Did they suppose that no one would ever notice? Or is it just a symptom of the desperation that has gripped the Democratic Party since the stunning election loss of 2016 made it impossible to suppress this titanic, bubbling vessel of fermented misdeeds? It seems more than merely possible that the entire Mueller Investigation was a ruse from the start to conceal all this nefarious activity. It is even more astounding to see exactly what a lame document the Mueller Report turned out to be. It was such a dud that even the Democratic senators and congresspersons who are complaining the loudest have not bothered to visit the special parlor set up  at the Department of Justice for their convenience to read a much more lightly redacted edition of the report.

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753 Responses to “Deeper into the Dark”

  1. Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 10:05 am #

    >>> How about a beheading at the capable hands of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN)?

    I would think Kathy Griffins would be the go-to girl for beheadings. Then again, as a Muslim, Omar has a cultural advantage when it comes to stuff like that.

    • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 10:26 am #

      funny. invitation to a beheading.

      • OccamsBeard May 3, 2019 at 10:39 am #

        Sad. Invitation to a beheading. There, fixed it for you!


      • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 10:59 am #

        How would Omar put it? Oh—that’s right—it would be: Some sword did something…

        • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 11:53 am #

          Tucker Carlson is a dick.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 3, 2019 at 12:01 pm #

            And thus he can penetrate, indeed he’s probably the leading if not the only real journalist on prime time anymore.

            He’s old America and you hate that. You have to understand yourself. This is the bad part of you. The hateful anti-White racist part.

          • cbeard May 3, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

            You are a dick. Tucker is a truth teller. Your ilk can’t stand it. The truth that is.

          • wwg1wga May 3, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

            The moral arc CONTINUES to bend…



          • toktomi May 4, 2019 at 12:55 am #

            Oh, dear, where did I ever get the idea that you were something other than simply another one of the multi-millions of perfectly minted blue chips?


        • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 11:57 am #

          Thanks for the limited exposure to Fox. I can’t bring myself to watch it on my own. Your quick dip in the conservative dickweed pool is all I can take. I’m sure I’d have an easier time with it if I was sufficiently ignorant, but I’m not, so thanks again.

          • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

            The message—dude—not the messenger.

            Would you prefer the same message by Dan Crenshaw? Or is he a dick, too?

          • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

            Fox News isn’t what it used to be; half it’s on air personalities are now liberals. So we conservatives have half a network; you people have the rest of the TV media. And that galls you. You want 100% dominance; you want all other voices silenced. You hate the first amendment as much as you do the second.

            Bad dog, bad dog!

          • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

            Tucker Carlson is a closet faggot. True story.

          • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 1:14 pm #

            Maybe, but I’ll bet when he and Anderson Cooper get together, Carlson in on top.

          • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

            Homosexuality seems to be a prerequisite for tv news personalities these days.

          • benr May 3, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

            Speaking of decorum or lacking there of!
            Clean it up man!

          • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 2:39 pm #

            Speaking of Muslims and beheadings…

            Shocking video of children in Philadelphia Muslim Society: ‘We will chop off their heads’ for Allah

            When you welcome Muslims, you also welcome their culture, which includes the Madrasa suicide factories.

            Of course Dems don’t follow Fox; the news doesn’t fit their “religion of peace” narrative.

          • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 3:11 pm #

            No Exscotticus not at all. Dan Crenshaw said things I don’t agree with but he does seem to be able to have a civil dialog. That is not true with Tucker who is paid to rouse the rabble and that is all the prick is good for.

            Dan Crenshaw, from the clip you had me watch seems like he would consider another’s point of view. Tucker just wants to roll over people and any lie he comes up with is fair in his game.

          • Nightowl May 3, 2019 at 3:47 pm #

            I used to hate the guy. Cheered Jon Stewart on crossfire, etc. Then over the past few years I listened to TC speak off air, watched him be a lone MSM voice on the scandal unfolding now, and I changed my mind.

            He’s quite liberal on social issues, and he has nuanced positions on international relations. You might be quite surprised.

          • shotho May 3, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

            You seem to have ‘dick’ on the mind. H-m-m-m, what’s up with that, a little obsession?

          • gonetohell May 5, 2019 at 6:14 am #

            Notice Kunstler talks of the desperate Dems after the 2016 loss while completely glossing over the complete shellacking of the Republicans in 2018. No desperation there I suppose.

            Kunstler has shown himself a crackpot in a sea of crackpots. If you believe this man to have intellect and insight, keep in mind he now exclusively props up the miscreant in the WH.

          • HowardBeale May 6, 2019 at 5:48 am #

            What, specifically, is your issue with TC?

    • OccamsBeard May 3, 2019 at 10:38 am #

      The political left has certainly lost their heads with this stuff – not yet literally!


      • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 11:08 am #

        Their heads are still on but they have lost their minds. Obviously Russians did not influence the election. But all this talk of a space force by Trump, about it, there is your answer.

        Obviously the Martians influenced the election not the Russians. They must have because somebody did. The idea that America itself was so stupid to elect Trump himself. That is just plain crazy.

        Then again, I don’t see any Americans at the Brandenberg Gate.

        • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 11:09 am #

          http://chasingthesquirrel.com/ <– At the Brandenberg Gate.

        • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 12:50 pm #

          Au contraire my dear canine, there is new evidence that das Russkies penetrated the election system in Florida, although it remains to be seen what the result was, there is a certainty that they were running amok there.

        • Uncle Bob May 3, 2019 at 10:38 pm #

          Uhm, the Chinese are working on establishing a permanent base on the moon, in part to help them trash out telecommunications system. I realize that you’re smarter than anyone else because, well, you’re a progressive fuckwad, and progressive fuckwad tend to believe themselves superior to the peasantry (i.e., Deplorables). However, you douchenozzles fail to appreciate that the loss of telecomm because you hate Trump might have an adverse effect on your Pokemon Go, not to mention reinforce the proletariat’s view that you’re overbearing, self-righteous, condescending prigs. But at least you get to look down on other people, while accusing Trump and his fans of — hating people.

        • gonetohell May 6, 2019 at 5:24 pm #

          Whether the Russians actually managed to influence the election can be debated. That they attempted to sway the election is an accepted fact, even by Republican leaders. As far as Martians go, it is quite evident you communicate with them daily.

    • zetatai May 3, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

      I fear that line, taken out of context, will come back to haunt you Jim.

    • NoLongerHuman May 3, 2019 at 9:21 pm #

      Here’s some real Clinton meddling
      Although Russian Campaigning laws restricted candidate spending to $3 million dollars, in February 1996, at the urging of the United States, the International Monetary Fund (which describes itself as “an organization of 188 countries, working to foster global monetary cooperation”) supplied a $10.2 billion “emergency infusion” to Russia.The money disappeared as Yeltsin used it to shore up his reputation and to buy votes.  He forced the Central Bank of Russia to provide an additional $1 billion for his campaign, too.  Meanwhile, a handful of Russian oligarchs, notably several big contributors residing in Israel, provided more billions for the Yeltsin campaign.

  2. fugeguy May 3, 2019 at 10:07 am #

    “But the next move by the desperate Resistance may be to create so much political disorder in the system that they manage to delegitimize the 2020 election before it is even held, and plunge the nation deeper into unnecessary crisis just to try and save their asses.”

    Their necks are what they should worry about.

    It may sound barbaric but I think we need some very public hangings in this country.

    There are more than few people who need to be reminded that misdeeds in adulthood involve consequences and not do overs and being a member of victimhood does not entitle you to do anything you want to get your imagined victimizer.

    • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 11:25 am #

      I agree. And now Hillary has appeared on Rachel Maddow’s show, calling on China to hack into the IRS database, steal Trump’s tax returns, and release them to the public. What gall!

      She should hang from the neck while gleeful children with baseball bats beat her like a pinata. We came, we saw, she died. Chuckle-chuckle.

      • benr May 3, 2019 at 11:34 am #

        Hillary Clinton has some gall considering most of Haiti wants to hang her and her husband for all the money that was disappeared out of the Haiti hurricane fund.

      • elysianfield May 3, 2019 at 11:37 am #

        She was obviously referencing Trump’s call to the Russians to release missing Emails….

        • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

          As in the e-mails which show her many criminal acts?

          • benr May 3, 2019 at 12:16 pm #

            Yea those.
            You know the very same stuff that Bill wandered over to Loretta lynch’s Jet to discuss the grandkids…wink wink.

          • seawolf77 May 3, 2019 at 8:13 pm #

            Hillary Envy- Symptoms include flaccid member, inability to open pickle or mayonnaise jars, and wistful nostalgia for TV shows like “Get Smart” and “I Love Lucy.”

          • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 3:46 pm #

            Congrats, Seawolf! You got thru an entire posting without displaying Tourette’s-like spasmodic cursing. Maybe they can wash you up and reintroduce you to polite society.

      • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

        Why does that bother you? I rather liked the idea of Hillary asking for Chinese help on getting GGG’s tax returns. I thought that was completely legit and Rudy agrees. You know, good for the goose, good for the gander and all that?

      • Majella May 5, 2019 at 6:16 pm #

        What an egregious and deliberate misrepresentation of what was actually said.

        You are quick to accuse those who disagree with you with distortion but here you go, right out in plain sight – either that or you didn’t actually SEE it and are simply passing on 3rd hand distortion (non-fact-checked, of course, like Fox).

      • Majella May 5, 2019 at 6:59 pm #

        That’s not a defense of HRC, but a defense of accuracy.

        Like so many others with Hillary Derangement Syndrome, your narrative is based on innuendo & outright lies.


        There’s been NOTHING proven against the Clinton Foundation – which is not to say it’s lily-white. But right through the Mueller probe, the right-handed screams of outrage at an investigation where ‘there’s no evidence’ were deafening.

        If only you Trumptards could be even-handed, you wouldn’t look so ridiculous to 61% of the US population and some 90% of the rest of the world.

      • HowardBeale May 6, 2019 at 5:51 am #

        Chainsaws. Give the kids chainsaws.

    • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 11:27 am #

      Pay per view could make a ton of money.

      Dan Carlin has an interesting podcast about public torture and executions. Worth listening to.

      • benr May 3, 2019 at 11:32 am #

        Common sense or Hardcore history?

        • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

          Hardcore history, but both are good.

        • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

          I believe the episode title was ‘Painfotainment.’

          • benr May 3, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

            I will see if I can get it.

    • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

      You sound a lot like Genalismor Francisco Franco (and GGG Trump) and we know how Franco is regarded, historically. The same way Trump will be. Will you still be an ardent supporter at that time?

      • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

        Generalismo, rather

  3. Neon Vincent May 3, 2019 at 10:08 am #

    While you may think this scandal should make the Democrats yell “SOS” and “mayday!” because of the distress they find themselves in, I think they’ll consider it another Benghazi. That means they’ll treat it as partisan BS and ignore it. They would much rather take the lead of Kamala Harris on gun control and promise an emergency declaration on gun violence if they can’t get legislation to deal with the problem. After all, they have to please their primary voters in order to have a chance of running against Trump in the general election.

    • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 10:15 am #

      I do too. Whether or not subpoenas are ever issued, they’ll be summarily ignored.

    • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 10:22 am #

      >>> After all, they have to please their primary voters in order to have a chance of running against Trump in the general election.

      After which, the victor will have to slip, slip, slide to the right to have any chance of beating Trump.

      Trump, meanwhile, can just be Trump.

      • outsider May 3, 2019 at 11:20 am #

        It would be a lot easier to support Trump if he didn’t have John Bolton & SOS Pompeo going around the world sanctioning country after country, and threatening them with “all options on the table” if they don’t bow down and comply. With their threat to prevent Iran from selling any oil, perhaps they’ve gone a Bridge Too Far.

        • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 11:38 am #

          Americans—especially liberals—don’t care about that stuff! They just want a warm and fuzzy feel-good Prez that speaks of one-world kumbaya and shows up on late-night to rap while keeping all the unmentionables, well, unmentionable. No one says you can’t bomb or deport or put kids in cages! Just do it in secret—like Obama did.

          I mean just look at this. So Presidential!

        • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

          Yes, Pompeo and Bolton are just running dogs of the MIC. Trump isn’t smart enough to be a running dog for anyone.

  4. benr May 3, 2019 at 10:08 am #

    This comment is being edited by Admin.
    Certain dumb political tropes are inadmissible here

    All that and more keeps coming out of the corrupt Democrat party.

    Would be nice to see old Obama stuttering and stammering in front of a grand jury about how he authorized all this nonsense to help his hated nemesis Hillary Clinton I bet he regrets it all now.

    • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 10:27 am #

      I understand JK has to keep some semblance of order here BUT
      I always wonder what the removed words were.

      • benr May 3, 2019 at 10:43 am #

        Was a rude comment not worthy of this blog he was right to remove it.

  5. Elrond Hubbard May 3, 2019 at 10:09 am #

    Facebook bans extremist leaders including Louis Farrakhan, Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos for being ‘dangerous’
    The bans are a sign that the social network is more aggressively enforcing its hate speech policies under pressure from civil rights groups.


    “Facebook said on Thursday it has permanently banned several far-right and anti-Semitic figures and organizations, including Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, Infowars host Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos and Laura Loomer, for being “dangerous,” a sign that the social network is more aggressively enforcing its hate-speech policies at a moment when bigoted violence is on the rise around the world.

    “Facebook said it was going to remove the accounts, fan pages, and groups affiliated with these individuals on both Facebook and its sister site, Instagram, after it reevaluated the content that they had posted previously, or had examined their activities outside of Facebook, the company said. The removal also pertains to at least one of the organizations run by these people, Jones’ Infowars.”

    Imagine being so terrible that you get lumped in with Jones and Yiannopoulos. Tsk.

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    • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 10:11 am #

      “Hate speech” = prohibited New Speak. The language will be CLEANSED!

      • City_of_76 May 3, 2019 at 10:29 am #

        Nah, they can still go publish Xerox newsletters and hand them out in the town square. They can still put up a website and comment board to attract their demented fellows for an infinite feedback loop of stupidity and ignorance.

        Facebook isn’t the government, Ol’ Scratch. Facebook is right to send those cretins back into the dark.

        • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 10:42 am #

          It’s quite a bit more than just Facebook, though. We’re seeing a full court press in the media and public opinion in general these days.

          • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 11:42 am #

            >>> We’re seeing a full court press in the media


          • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 11:59 am #

            Stumbled into that one purely by luck!

        • benr May 3, 2019 at 11:23 am #

          Yes we must stomp all over the first amendment!
          Odd considering the people doing it are screaming things like Fascist as they act very much like the fascists they decry!
          Shame the same is only now being applied to true speakers of hate like Screwy Louis Farahkan.

        • outsider May 3, 2019 at 11:30 am #

          Facebook, Google, and Twitter are supposed to be Platforms not Publishers exercising editorial control in order to shut down speech they happen disagree with (which is always right wing speech). They are violating their charters, which, unlike publishers, makes them immune from lawsuits. If Congress and POTUS had any balls they’d be brought to heel under anti-trust laws.

          • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:00 pm #

            Alex Jones, Milo, Trump, et al, WILL be brought to heel. No offense, K-Dog.

          • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

            “Alex Jones, Milo, Trump, et al, WILL be brought to heel.”

            I didn’t realize you were opposed to the first amendment, JD. What is your reasoning?

      • OccamsBeard May 3, 2019 at 10:47 am #

        Question is, who decides what hate is, or what is is? If I hate hate speech am I a hater? Can I love the hater but hate the speech? Oh, I see, this is just another branch of Wittgensteinian philosophical nonsense. Proceed…..


        • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

          Free speech is the First amendment. First because it is that important. I personally hate (there’s that h word) Louis Farahkhan but loathe all those that would restrict his right to speak.

      • Coalclinker May 3, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

        I hate to tell you, but In-Q-Tel provided money to start Facebook.Who is In-Q-Tel? They are the investment arm of the CIA, which last time i looked is a part of the Federal Government.
        If you think this is a conspiracy theory, then go look it up. It’s not a secret at all. The pay off is this: they are a CIA asset.

        • Majella May 5, 2019 at 7:09 pm #


          A quick reading of the Wikipedia entry, which INCLUDES a comprehensive list of the businesses and technologies In-Q-Tel has invested in since 1999, DOES NOT INCLUDE Facebook.


          • Farmer Joe May 5, 2019 at 8:46 pm #

            Maj, you need to dig just a little deeper.

            FB got its seed money from Peter Thiel and Accel Partners. (1)

            Peter Thiel is co-founder of Palantir(2), an In-Q-Tel investment.(3)

            Accel Partners has at least one holding in common with In-Q-Tel, Cloudera. (3) (4)

            A connection definitely exists.

            (1) http://fortune.com/2011/01/11/timeline-where-facebook-got-its-funding/

            (2) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

            (3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel

            (4) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accel_Partners

          • Farmer Joe May 5, 2019 at 11:42 pm #

            “Thiel is a member of the Steering Committee of the Bilderberg Group, a private, annual gathering of intellectual figures, political leaders and business executives.”


            The more I read the better it gets. Who you working for, Majella?

          • Farmer Joe May 5, 2019 at 11:59 pm #

            The more I read about Thiel the more I like him. Here is what he has to say about his involvement with the Bilderberg group:

            Wikipedia says that you’re on the steering committee of the Bilderberg group. Is that true and what does that involve? Are you the one who organises the covert world domination?

            It is true though it’s not so secret and covert that I can’t tell you about it. It’s a good discussion among various business, political, media, finance leaders in the US and western Europe. I would say that I think there is no conspiracy. This is a problem in our society. There isn’t a secret plan. Our leaders do not have a secret plan of how to fix all of our problems. While secret plans might be a bad thing, I find the lack of any plan whatsoever to be far more disturbing.


    • Luhrenloup May 3, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

      I think this banning is all to the good because these mega sites will self-destruct by doing so. They will become so righteous, priggish and boring that it will drive people away. I thought they took a big step in that direction when they banned “learn to code.”
      As it is now a person is taking an awful chance of having all their posted writings erased never to be resuscitated in an eyeblink for inadvertently making an inappropriate comment.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 3, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

      The Truth is hateful and therefore cannot be mentioned it seems. Why hate the righteous hater? Why not hate the perpetrator of the Hateful Deed?

      People like Elrond are so very confused about the simplest things.

  6. Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 10:09 am #

    In times of great domestic political crises, expect foreign crises against “existential enemies” to quickly emerge to save the day. Nothing like a good war to settle things down again. Wag that dog!

    • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 10:26 am #

      de population agenda.

      • Q. Shtik May 3, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

        de population agenda. – malth


        Another of the abstruse incomplete sentences written without benefit of an upper case letter at the left end of the starting word. I am therefore certain this is the commenter formerly known as Asia.

    • AKlein May 4, 2019 at 7:05 am #

      OS, I’ve mentioned that very motive on this blog for the last few years; when all other methods fail, bring on a war to kick over the chessboard. The 0.1% tire of the plebs making a ruckus about inequity, unfairness, etc, etc, etc. There’s an inflection point. And when it is reached, war has always been the answer. The only fly in the ointment that I can see is that, because of technological advancements, overreach in war can easily occur. I think that may be why we have seen only limited war in recent decades. But, as you observe, war has been a great remedy for the ruling class to deal with troublesome populations. It’s one of the reason, I suggest, that it’s always good to have a credible enemy in the wings, whose service can be brought to bear on such internal problems. It’s actually very clever. And all the dead can be declared heroes, posthumously, of course. Reminds me of what the emperor Caracalla declared when he was told his dead brother Geta (whom he had murdered) had been declared a god by the senate; “Deus sit dum mortuus”. Says it all.

      • AKlein May 4, 2019 at 7:12 am #

        Sorry, should have supplied a translation. “Deus sit dum mortuus” in English is “Let him be a god so long as he is dead.”

  7. shotho May 3, 2019 at 10:11 am #

    Human nature seems to oscillate between greed and fear, often at the same time. American politicians have fattened on greed for a long time, so now the time of fear approaches. Critters act strange and unpredictable when stuffed with fear.
    The 2020 election will not be a usual or predictable event. No one knows now what it will really look like, but I think we can predict that it doesn’t portend well for a republic that depends on the good will and appreciation of its citizens.

    • fugeguy May 3, 2019 at 10:36 am #

      In the end, I still think Trump will get the 2020 election as a gift from those who would like to keep their necks un-stretched.

      Plus if we rumble, bumble and stumble through the next 2 years who else would be arrogant enough to inherit what will be by an order of magnitude the largest bubble in human history?

      • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

        You live in a dream world fuse.

        • shotho May 3, 2019 at 4:56 pm #

          No, he may be right. If fear, at that time, is sufficient, then, the ‘loyal’ opposition might be ready to give Trump what he wants. That’s as good as any other scenario that might be conjured.
          But I think you’re right about the largest bubble in human history. It might have busted by then, in which case all hell will have broken out.

  8. malthuss May 3, 2019 at 10:24 am #

    Urban sprawl—-URBAN MALL–

    tattoo places
    pay day loan
    bail bonds
    Collection Agency
    Credit Repair
    Debt Consolidation
    Immigration offices
    fast food joints,
    liquor stores, Bars
    pawn shops,
    we buy gold
    used car lots
    dollar stores,
    gov’t offices,
    storage units
    title loans
    Bail Bonds
    Casinos and Gambling
    empty stores
    Boarded up abandoned
    Cigars, Pipes, Tobaccos
    Electronic Cigarette
    Nail salons
    Dollar stores and walmart
    Diet Programs
    planned parenthood


    • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 10:40 am #

      You’ve basically listed the pioneer species of capitalism—the first to colonize the barren wastelands, from which other less hardy species can then take root, ultimately facilitating a climax community of fragile shopping malls that can’t survive without a complex and diversified ecosystem.

      • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

        Barren wastelands that once were a great nation.

      • Greg May 3, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

        Great analogy! Unfortunately, the shopping malls don’t use local energy sources with maximum efficiency the way biological climax ecosystems would.

    • allyn May 3, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      Military recruitment centers

    • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 10:55 am #

      Nice list Malth.

      Add ‘Methadone Clinic’ to it.


      • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

        yes…how did I forget?

    • matt b in AZ May 3, 2019 at 10:56 am #

      malthuss, I’m from Gary, IN

      Can’t forget the Plasma Donation Centers!

      • MiddlePeninsula May 3, 2019 at 6:11 pm #

        Mr. Matt B,
        While I don’t like the business model of plasma donation centers, they do serve a purpose for some of us unfortunates. A weekly infusion of human immune globulin gives me the antibodies I can’t make for myself. The package insert reminds you that you may get “mad cow disease” from their drug, although the actual language is so obtuse only the truly focused will figure that out. How charming is that? We’ll keep you alive but we may kill you anyway in a most unpleasant manner. It is a routine reminder of how truly screwed I am.
        While on this very blog, I believe James had said more than once that the value of a liberal arts education is to remind folks that life is tragic. I know at some point in the long emergency, I am going to have to call it a “day”.

      • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

        So you’re in AZ now. Can’t imagine why you’d choose to leave beautiful downtown Gary, IN. /S

    • So many liars May 3, 2019 at 11:02 am #

      Fronting on Interstate 81 near the TN/VA line is a building with a sign facing the highway. It says in large bold lettering,


      First amendment.
      Second amendment.

      I imagine that travelers from elsewhere react with horror. Always makes me smile and feel at home.

      • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:02 pm #

        Jesus is a red neck and drives a pick-up truck with a rifle in the back window? I did not know that.

        • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

          I’m not Jesus (I’m not even Hispanic nor do I bowl) but I used to carry two rifles on a window rack in the back window of my old pickup. Still own an F350 but no longer carry weapons where they can be seen. Used to be very common thing. Rifles in their racks was a normal everyday thing back when we had more common sense.

          • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 1:57 pm #

            hey zeus

          • goldpen May 3, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

            Yes I remember those days too. Rifles in the racks of pickups. I also remember in High School just after the Christmas break a fellow student after school showing off his new hunting rifle to a teacher in the parking lot! That was almost forty years ago. Can you imagine that today? No one thought anything of it. And I remember many homes I went into, homes of friends, where there was a rifle or shotgun propped up behind the front door. Can’t be done when too many people are irresponsible and bat shit nuts.

          • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

            Same here. As a teenager had a gunrack. But times changed, now have to lock up Marlin in steel toolbox in bay of truck.


          • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 3:11 pm #

            @ Goldpen Speaking of rifles and high school… My High School (over 40 years ago) had mandatory JROTC for male Sophomore and Junior students. We had to qualify with old surplus M1s. They were retrofitted to fire .22lr. There was a rifle range in the basement of the school. Students could bring their own weapons and shoot there. It was not uncommon to see students with their rifles ON THE SCHOOLBUS! Can you imagine that today?

          • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 4:56 pm #

            I was in JROTC in high school. We shot air rifles. We had M1s, but they had the firing pins removed and were for drill only. The air rifles had to be kept locked in a closet for safety. This was really 2000s. I wouldn’t be surprised if the air rifles were replaced by nerf guns by now.

          • goldpen May 4, 2019 at 10:08 am #

            Yes Sam my high school hat a JROTC, but it was not mandatory. We had a gun range on campus for the Rifle Team. .22 caliber rifles were used. I never competed on the team, but I did practice with them several times.

            Yeah I doubt there’s public school in ‘Murica today that allows real guns to be used on any Rifle Team. Probably no Rifle Teams allowed at all.

            You know, if there ever was an active shooter on my High School’s campus that guy would have been shot himself rather quickly. Both teachers and students would’ve ran out to there cars to retrieve their guns. And the JROTC boys would’ve come out of the practice range locked and loaded.

        • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

          Why not, He came to save the deplorables, not you Pharisees on your moral high horse named “Hypocrisy”.

        • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

          “He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” Luke 22:36 NIV

      • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

        Nice part of the country. Spent many a night at the Davy Crockett truck stop there. I imagine it is long gone now.

    • stelmosfire May 3, 2019 at 11:20 am #

      Don’t forget Pot Shop

      • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

        Pot shops aren’t common in most of the country…yet. Where it is legal you are correct. Pot shops and grow facilities are EVERYWHERE here in Colorado.

      • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2019 at 10:54 am #

        Wacky storefront church.

    • JustSaying May 3, 2019 at 11:21 am #

      Bad Chinese restaurants

    • benr May 3, 2019 at 11:25 am #

      Chinese massage parlors my god they are getting worse then Starbucks in San Diego.

      • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

        Those would be Korean massage parlors.

        • benr May 3, 2019 at 1:44 pm #

          Not in San Diego!

      • Q. Shtik May 3, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

        worse then Starbucks – benr

        • benr May 3, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

          Egads you’re right I should be drawn and quartered for that error.
          No worries as a product of the failed Los Angles public school system you will see many such errors, miss spellings and or typos from me.

          • Majella May 5, 2019 at 7:20 pm #

            “miss spellings”…misspellings?

      • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

        They exist to import people. ever wonder why so many chinks work in a restaurant? they get visas. not much work.


        • montsegur May 3, 2019 at 2:20 pm #

          That gig even worked on an American base in Europe. At some point, the military woke up and removed about 20 Chinese mainlanders from the base and turned them over to the local authorities … they hadn’t legally immigrated (if I need point that out).

          True story.


          • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 4:14 pm #

            T Y

            [THANK YOU]

    • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 11:35 am #

      Grocery store

      • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 11:36 am #


        • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 1:58 pm #

          inside costco.

      • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 11:38 am #

        Gas station / convenience store

        • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

          7-11 run by dot indians who got SBA loan.

          • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 4:17 pm #

            Military recruitment centers
            Plasma Donation Centers
            Pot Shop
            Chinese massage parlors
            –Thanks for these.

    • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 11:44 am #

      Needle exchanges – for addicts too busy to soak their own in bleach.

      • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

        Massage Parlor

        Cable TV pay center

        Pizza joint run by Turks

        • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

          I took a Lyft.
          the driver said that he was a lawyer who lived in Encino
          –when the creature [MJ] was alive–would see The Jacksons
          a bit, in Encino. shopping or whatever.

          Michaels mother would be seen shopping at Ross Store. [cheap prices].

        • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 3:59 pm #

          Add to the list:

          Police Substation

          • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 4:22 pm #

            all to necessary when Majority goes minority.

          • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 7:55 pm #

            oops–too is the spelling.

    • Soloview May 3, 2019 at 11:58 am #

      reverse mortgage authorized providers
      sex doll rental places
      women shelters
      islamic cultural centres
      Apple stores
      authorized marijuana resellers
      late term abortions clinics
      discount sperm banks
      same sex marriage haberdashers & oufitters
      detox centres
      homeless camps in public parks
      crumbling bridges
      S&M sex toys shops
      empty pedestals of statutes of Historical Supporters of White Supremacy
      overweight female fire chiefs
      face threading parlors
      african bees
      credit consolidation experts
      pet grooming salons
      pet cemeteries
      pet bordellos (coming soon)

      • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 2:01 pm #

        empty pedestals of statutes of Historical Supporters of White Supremacy–judged by yr comment I assume that you prefer the good old days. whites built better nations.

      • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 4:23 pm #

        pet bordellos (coming soon)–artificial insemination.

    • Q. Shtik May 3, 2019 at 1:21 pm #



      I will add to your list a negative dollar stores and a negative bail bonds since you’ve already got two of each. Other than that, nice list.

      • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

        oops..and I was in Asia.

      • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 4:23 pm #

        A compliment from you, to me, is indeed rare.

    • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

      Mesican resrants.(sic) Find the right one and you have found heaven. Most are crap.

      • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

        Kabbala centers and ethnic groceries giving out flyers on how to convert to Islam.

    • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2019 at 10:56 am #

      Western Union office to send remittances to Mexico from

  9. So many liars May 3, 2019 at 10:33 am #

    It’s beginning to look like several powerful people in the former administration are in serious legal jeopardy. I sincerely hope that Bill Barr is successful in his efforts to hook these swamp creatures and subject them to the consequences spelled out in the law.

    However, as we’ve all seen, the swamp won’t drain unless the sludge at the bottom is removed. Included in that sludge are many of the unelected “permanent” government bureaucrats, and a large portion of the elite media.

    My question is whether these individuals in gov’t and media have gone beyond merely violating professional ethics and have actually broken the law. Is there recourse against the deliberate lying and misrepresentation we hear regularly in the news reports? Can they be prosecuted?

    • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 10:38 am #

      Insiders assure me ‘we will all hang’ but I doubt it.

    • fugeguy May 3, 2019 at 10:40 am #

      Yea, I don’t think the first amendment covers collusion to intentionally commit sedition to remove a duly elected president even if he is an old white guy who says sh3t that offends your delicate ears. And the marines don’t care about hurt feelings and we might get them involved before all is said and done.

    • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

      serious legal jeopardy? Are you serious? If you are, you are as deluded as Jimb.

      • benr May 3, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

        So sayeth he who has proven to be very delusional.

        • Nightowl May 3, 2019 at 3:20 pm #

          Given the spike in his post count, it would appear he watched the Barr hearing and hit cognitive dissonance level 11.

          The hammer is about to fall. 😀

  10. FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 10:37 am #

    The widespread opinion that the political struggle in the USA is a performance, a wrestling match of Nanai boys, a political show business, or at least a fight of two equally reactionary candidates, is well known.

    But for those who still remember the basics of Dialectical Materialism, within which practice was the criterion of truth, it should be obvious that this point of view is completely hopeless from the point of view of understanding today politics. It paints with a roller the reality of political life in the United States in one color, not allowing distinguishing between shades and finding friends and enemies.

    Moreover, in Russia it makes supporters of this point of view an easy victim of manipulators who instill with them the most rabid anti-Americanism when a group comes to power in the US, set up for real cooperation with Russia, and is forced to admire America when outright Russophobia reigns in the White House.

    The most striking example of such manipulations is undoubtedly the Watergate scandal, as a result of which Richard Nixon – one of the most talented and insightful US presidents who ended the war in Vietnam and started a policy of defusing international tension went into political oblivion under the enthusiastic applause of the progressive public on both sides of the ocean.

    And in the Soviet Union we gladly relieved the details of this disgrace of America, despite the fact that the main motivation for Nixon’s removal was not the love of democracy, but the desire of the “war party” that had arisen at that moment, together with Nixon to send the SALT-1 agreements concluded by him with the USSR into the waste bin of history.

    And it is not by chance that US President Donald Trump, said on the eve of the televised debates in 2016 that he considered himself a follower of Richard Nixon.

    After all, he leads a merciless fight with a woman who 45 years ago destroyed Nixon as a political figure, somehow wrested his resignation from him. And now she is trying to destroy the Institution of the Presidency in the United States itself, turning it into a magical golden cap to summon Flying Monkeys and use their terrible destructive power to finish off all of humanity.

    And although the Rodino Commission, which investigated President Nixon’s participation in the organization of the wiretapping of National Democratic Committee, had no evidence of his guilt, except for one half-hour record, missing from the tape, to which the President was obliged by law to record all his conversations, and the Secretary Hillary Clinton destroyed 33,000 (!) of her emails after receiving the subpoena for the transfer of these emails to the US Congress, but President Nixon resigned in 1974, and Hillary Clinton in 2016 was cleared by the FBI.

    And practically the entire American establishment is literally trying to push her into the White House. At the same time, the young lawyer of the Rodino Commission Hillary Clinton acted illegally in 1974, not allowing the lawyers of President Nixon to advise his client, but his resignation is a resignation, and the winners, as we know, are not judged.

    But this story has its own irony. In 2019, humanity is indeed returning to 1972, when, together with Nixon, defusing international tensions, the peaceful co-existence of the two systems went to the garbage.

    Paradoxically, the topic of Russian-American relations is exploding from the inside the highly sophisticated campaign of Hillary Clinton, which itself initiated the information blockade of Russia, and now speaks of Russia as the main source of the WikiLeaks website.

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    • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 10:46 am #

      Jim, since Biden declared for pres a few weeks ago, you’re the only one I’ve seen who has mentioned his and his families’ deep involvement with Ukraine.

      Where is the MSM on this important matter?


      • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 10:49 am #

        At any rate, when AG Barr begins smoking out Dem colluders in the soft coup they almost pulled off, let’s see if any of them ‘obstruct justice’.


        • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 11:04 am #

          The difference between a Congressional subpoena and one from the DoJ is that the latter also comes with a SWAT team.

      • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 11:04 am #

        Where is the MSM on this important matter?

        They know if they start pulling that thread, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

        It is way worse than you think.

        • elysianfield May 3, 2019 at 11:43 am #

          “It is way worse than you think.”

          Komaradenl Finc!

          …it is ALWAYS worse when you think….

          • elysianfield May 3, 2019 at 11:44 am #

            …As in “Ignorance is bliss”.

          • beantownbill. May 3, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

            The actual phrase is: When ignorance is bliss, ‘tis folly to be wise.

        • Nightowl May 3, 2019 at 3:22 pm #

          “The White House is running this.”

      • benr May 3, 2019 at 11:40 am #

        Mark Levin went in depth on it as has several other podcasts on American conservative university.

      • Jigplate May 3, 2019 at 11:56 am #

        Not exactly msm but check out this great video by Glen beck.


      • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

        Who gives a shit about that? Really?

        • benr May 3, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

          Well it seems to trigger you so that is fun.

          • goldpen May 3, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

            Yep! Loads of fun triggering jdh.

    • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 11:52 am #

      Woe there, Fincaln. What did you mean by:

      ” the tape, to which the President was obliged by law to record all his conversations,”

      Are you saying that Nixon was required by law to record all his conversations in the oval office? Which by the way, he did without telling people they were being recorded.

      These recordings were most certainly not “required by law”. Whether they were legal or not is another issue.

      • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

        Totally unnecessary. They were purely a vanity project of Tricky Dick’s, as he fashioned himself to be a great historical figure. Didn’t quite work out the way he planned.

      • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 12:38 pm #

        I may be wrong about the requirement of the law of keeping the Presidential records, but the ONLY incriminating evidence against Nixon was missing 18 and a half minutes of erased conversation.

        The missing 18 1/2 minutes: Presidential destruction of incriminating evidence


        Compare it to 3000 missing emails of Madam Secretary.

        • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

          I beg to differ, Fincaln. I was 19 yrs old at the time and remember it well, Yes, there was the 18.5 minute gap which aroused a lot of suspicion, but could not be directed used against Nixon.

          His demise came after release of the so-called “smoking gun” tape, in which he appeared to reveal knowledge and complicity in the cover up activities. See:

          • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 1:00 pm #

            I hate to go now into the repetition of the fight we observe today every minute on cable TV, but as applied to Watergate, the only thing I know for sure that after Nixon was gone, the Detente of International tensions with Russia was replaced by a new spiral in nuclear arms race, but on much more dangerous level and the Reigan Star Wars replaced the Apollo-Soyuz program of joint Russian-American space flights.

            Watergate was NOT about saving “American Democracy[deep sigh]”, it was about continuing war with Russia.

          • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

            Oh absolutely. The history about Watergate and much else they teach school children is a load of crap. Nixon ran afoul of those who make and break world leaders. So they broke him. Then their minions gave themselves awards and much praise for being so righteous. Sickening.

          • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

            Tragically funny in retrospect. Ol’ Tricky likely went to his grave never suspecting that he’d been set up. He kept so many plates spinning in the air during his presidency and the story they concocted was so entirely plausible that he bought it hook line and sinker and let John Dean walk him right down the primrose path to his ultimate demise with nary a word of complaint. Poor bastard. As conspiracies go, it was a true masterwork!

  11. woe May 3, 2019 at 10:40 am #

    Keep on talking about it JHK. This issue is extremely important!

  12. RB May 3, 2019 at 11:01 am #

    No democrat will be brought to justice. Democrat federal judges will make sure of that. Trump may well strike a deal with the New York “justice” mob since it seems that lynch mob might have more going for it than Mueller.

    For my part, the government cannot secure the borders, stop the @$%@$# robo calls, simplify the tax code, end the endless wars and fruitless campaigns abroad or much of anything else. Do you really believe that the cabal of crazies will be brought to heel?

    • outsider May 3, 2019 at 11:41 am #

      The democrats are running out the clock as we speak. As Mr. Kunstler said, the wheels of justice run slow. If a democrat wins in 2020, all ongoing investigations will be stopped in their tracks.

    • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

      Unfortunately you are correct. As is “Outsider” right below. I will be flabbergasted if a single person of substance is brought to trial or even indicted. They may, just may, strike some kind of face saving deal and offer up a couple of flunkies no one has heard of to take the fall but even that is very iffy.

  13. JustSaying May 3, 2019 at 11:13 am #

    …But it’s no exaggeration to say that this is the worst and most tangled scandal that the US government has ever seen, and that failing to resolve it successfully really is an existential threat to the project of being a republic. I was a young newspaper reporter during Watergate and that was like a game of animal lotto compared to this garbage barge of malfeasance…

    Absolutely and it now appears to me that the investigation was set up to provide cover as you state.

    Taken together with the Clown Coup this week, sure looks like the wheels are coming off.

    • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 1:53 pm #

      Man, the wheels fell off long ago. We been riding the rims for the last two decades or so.

      • JustSaying May 3, 2019 at 8:39 pm #

        True, maybe the rims are coming off now!

  14. volodya May 3, 2019 at 11:17 am #

    Neo-liberalism has got century-deep roots in political and economic thinking – or maybe they’re even deeper than that – the gist of it being to make the world safe for owners of capital, to make sure of a democratic deficit as to matters affecting capitalist interests. In the words of a recent article in Foreign Affairs, the aim was to make the economy like the weather, something that an ordinary person has no say in and can’t control and had to live with. More specifically, the goal was to unfetter the movement of money, goods, services and people across national borders for the advantage of business interests.

    Present day international arrangements with respect to trade and investment are a reflection of neo-liberal thinking, the formation of the EU in the post-war years seen at the time as a solid step in a neo-liberal direction. It took strides along that road with the opening of national borders of richer European countries to impoverished eastern Europeans with the aim of reducing wage costs.

    What we see in Washington with the election of Trump is a wrench in the neo-liberal disposition of things, the same with the Brexit vote, the same with the French Yellow Vests (who apparently had an especially festive May Day this year and so a tip of the hat to them). The response of the US Deep State was to attempt to extricate Trump and the interests he represented from the machinery of government, in short, to keep the neo-liberal project safe from the grubby hands of folk seen to be beneath contempt, whose wants and needs correspondingly unworthy of reasonable consideration.

    In the matter of the attempted coup we saw in Washington this past couple of years, JHK figures that the machinery of justice will act in the direction of actual justice, bringing coup leaders and various associated malefactors to account. This sounds a bit like the wishes and aspirations of neo-liberals in business and government and the media, whose fondest hope was to prove that Trump won the election by dishonest means, that he was therefore an illegitimate president.

    Well, no matter how much Mueller and his minions tried, they couldn’t come up with a case. This is what I’m afraid will happen here, that JHK and the rest of us are wishing and hoping for something that won’t happen.

    The perps in this situation weren’t worried about covering their tracks figuring, probably rightly, that the will doesn’t exist in the prosecutorial and investigative apparatus to make the criminal case that would be so exceedingly easy to make. Washington is knee deep in incriminating evidence and with prosecutors showing the same zeal as they did against guys like Flynn, you’d see a steady parade of people in cuffs. The problem is that, in my estimation, that same vim and vinegar doesn’t exist to prosecute Flynn’s and Trump’s persecutors.

    Why? For reasons of ideology. Neo-liberalism is deeply rooted in the Deep State and to do the necessary work that JHK envisions, it would require working against ideological fellow travelers. In my view it won’t happen. How do they justify the dereliction of duty? They’ll paint it as the opposite, they’ll paint a picture of officialdom, professional to the core, unbiased in the performance of their duties, performing all the necessary due diligence and concluding for reasons of a lack of necessary evidence and criminal intent, that no action will be taken.

    No criminal intent. That’s it. Nothing to see here folks. Go home.

    • So many liars May 3, 2019 at 11:23 am #

      If it happens as you describe, they’d better get ready to feel the fury of We The People!

      • volodya May 3, 2019 at 11:43 am #

        We’ll see. They haven’t felt the fury yet and I’m pretty sure they’re confident they never will.

        These things take time. Russians lived in execrable conditions yet it took until 1917 before they toppled the czarist regime and its supporting deep-state.

        The communists that replaced the czar were murderous but it took another 70 years before that was removed.

        Electing Trump and voting Brexit were protests for sure but fell short of furious responses even if there was fury underlying those votes.

        The French elite are every bit as contemptuous of French Deplorables as the NY Times is of American Deplorables. I’m surprised that Macron can still take a piss standing up given the number of casual insults he’s handed out. The Yellow Vest protests may portend something like what you expect and may be just the opening act of something far more – cough – vigorous and widespread.

        • Q. Shtik May 3, 2019 at 2:48 pm #

          I’m surprised that Macron can still take a piss standing up given the number of casual insults he’s handed out. – Vol


          I hate to admit that I’m not sharp enough to get what you’re driving at here.

          Here’s the deal: I can’t take a piss standing up either but it’s got nothing to do with politics nor do I have a vagina. It’s because I have, as so many of us old males do, an enlarged prostate ……….. or as my b-i-l Peter would call it: prostrate

          • volodya May 3, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

            meaning that by now, considering the ill-will he’s earned, nobody’s beaten him so bad he can no longer urinate from an upright position. I didn’t make up the expression. I’m just repeating it. Monkey see, monkey do.

            Sorry to hear about your prostrate.

        • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 7:19 pm #

          Wait til Buttplug and Macron get together for a summit meeting — rest assured it will be behind closed doors, and the MSM won’t be making a big issue out of it either like they did at the Trump — Putin meeting.


      • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 11:50 am #

        We The (drug addled, medicated, obese, lazy, deluded, hysterical, divided, incompetent, misdirected) People? I won’t hold my breath.

        • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 11:56 am #

          LOL! Likewise! The “We The People” myth has long since passed its expiration date.

        • So many liars May 3, 2019 at 12:35 pm #

          Are there no more patriots? Is there no one to carry forward the work of the founders, no defenders of our freedom?

          I understand the cynicism. But if there really is no one, if there really is no hope of righting the wrongs – substantially, if not fully, if “America” is just a naive dream, then what’s next?

          • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

            NO, no. GGG will carry forward the work of the founders. Surely, they would embrace him, no?

          • darrell dullnig May 3, 2019 at 3:26 pm #

            So many liars,

            “are there no more patriots?”

            It is obvious you believe (USA) patriots are a good thing. You(we) have never been free; only lucky. Lucky enough to have been born into an age of plenty. A golden age that no one could have predicted and no one has the power to extend.

            Your problem is you have no reference to gauge you or humanity’s insignificance. You, like all people are the center of your universe. All of us born in the waning years of the industrial revolution are utterly spoiled and narcissistic. We naturally love our comparatively easy lives. None of us wants the party to end.

            The only effective way to deal with our disappointment is to attempt to understand ourselves, and thereby reconcile ourselves to reality.

            America is truly a naive dream, and it is best to break out of that dream state for your own sanity. What is next is utter chaos as humanity slumps into the “war of each against all”, in earnest. It has already begun, but not yet blossomed. It will be as exponential as the population explosion, or more so.

            A remnant will likely survive, but it is not known if it will be any the wiser for the experience. Probably not……

          • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 3:29 pm #

            Patriotism? I’m not sure anyone even knows what the word means anymore, it’s been so thoroughly equated with blind loyalty to whatever blatantly illegal policy/act/storyline that’s being imposed. Freedom’s another quite slippery term. Freedom to do what? Support a manifestly unjust, corrupt, and illegal by any fair definition of word, globalist (I’ll forego the Z word today, since I beat that drum pretty soundly the other day) empire?

            What’s next is obvious and we’re seeing it unfold as we speak: collapse and eventual dissolution – the ultimate “market state,” where everyone’s free to shop for whatever government they like – or can afford. After that, who knows? “That’s when the fun begins,” as the marketing phrase goes.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 3, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

        Trump was a release valve. Plenty more where he came from. The People were duped and will be again. TINVOWOOT. There is no voting our way out of this.

        We await the God haunted Lieutenant to return from Fallujah, much as the Muslims await the Mahdi.

      • RB May 3, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

        Sheep aren’t much of a threat. Many citizens, maybe most, don’t see a problem and if they do, the problem is not enough government to give them free shit.

    • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 11:58 am #

      It would be politically prudent to put Dems on the defensive for a change. The problem is that the midterm elections are a proverbial wildcard. Hard to say what action or inaction will resonate best with the moderates in 2020.

      Pelosi, for example, has calculated that an impeachment show trial she knows she can’t win is not in the Dem’s 2020 interests. Her only hope was that Mueller would turn up something solid and actionable enough to convince RINOs to turn against Trump. That didn’t happen and here we are.

    • montsegur May 3, 2019 at 2:29 pm #

      the formation of the EU in the post-war years seen at the time as a solid step in a neo-liberal direction. It took strides along that road with the opening of national borders of richer European countries to impoverished eastern Europeans with the aim of reducing wage costs.

      As well as allowing the W European countries to destroy what was left of the economies of E European countries in order to replace those operations with – voila! – western European firms. That part of the “EU success story” is neither well known nor widely advertised. The East was gutted so rich Germans (mainly) could get richer.


      • montsegur May 3, 2019 at 2:31 pm #

        Forgot to mention: And with the E European economies gutted, then all of the bright bulbs in western Europe wondered why so many people came from the east to the west looking for work …


      • volodya May 3, 2019 at 3:00 pm #

        You’re right, how soon we forget. As an example, I read that East German industry collapsed like a house of cards. And you’re right, like night follows day, people had to find a way to make a living. Off to the UK they went. Brexit, stage right.

        • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 11:11 am #


          You think lots of East Germans came to the UK? Really?

          I’ll grant you lots of them moved to West Germany, but the UK?

          Why on earth would an East German move to the UK when s/he could get a better job in then ‘West Germany’ and speak their own language?


          I’ve never come across a single one among all the EU migrants I’ve seen. There have always been Germans historically living in the UK, but many of them are the result of intermarriages of British military personnel based in Germany.


          And I’ve tried googling anything about East German migration to the UK and come up with diddly.

          • volodya May 4, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

            I never meant to imply there was an influx of Germans. I was agreeing with what Montsegur said. Read his comment.

            Clear now?

            Oh, all right, I guess you’re right GA. I mean who knows the UK better than you? This immigration thing is just grossly over-stated, the people that complain are a gang of bigots with no legitimate interests, economic or otherwise. Poles, eastern Europeans, where?

            And if there was an influx it was all to the good, yes, no problems, none, not with violent Islam, not with anything, not of the economic variety, that’s for darn sure, at least none that can’t be sorted out with more neo-liberalism in action, more EU, fewer borders impeding all that is good and great, more for the bankers, less for the white van shmuck trying to make an ordinary living, working with his hands.

            See, I’m with you now, you’ve convinced me, it’s all in our stupid, racist heads. We don’ know nuffin’ an’ we don’ wanna know nuffin’. An’ if I wanna know sumpin’ I’ll ask you. OK?

            Lie to yourself all you like GA, live your little fantasy, it’s your turf and you have to live there not me.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 12:56 pm #


            You are certainly an angry guy. And your sentence was pretty ambiguous, if one wants to be generous.

            I never said at any point that people don’t have legitimate grievances. Nor did I say at any point that I approve of unlimited immigration.

            What I have said in the past is that:

            1. Brexit will do most economic harm to those who voted for it, apart from the Rees-Moggs and the Johnsons. Although Boris’s younger brother resigned his ministerial post because of the damage a hard Brexit will do to the country and their sister Rachel is going to stand for the recently formed Independent Group of MPs who’ve abandoned (mostly) the Tory party because it’s being held to ransom by Rees-Mogg’s hardline, hard Brexit ERG. This thing has split families, yet all you want to see is the most simplistic interpretation of everything.

            2. Brexit will not stop immigration. It will only stop internal EU migration, which is the smaller part of overall immigration. There is already an increase in non-EU immigration as a result of the Brexit vote and we haven’t even left yet.

            I have nothing against hard-working Polish people, nor any reason to prefer an increase in Indian immigrants to make up for them not being able to come here. I’d like to see less immigration overall, personally, but with a whole lot of measures taken to make the system work without more immigrants – and you’re not going to see those measures with the current lot in power. And with Scotland having gone a bit SNP, it looks like they’ll be in power forever, because Scotland used to be Labour territory.

            3. I don’t see unlimited immigration to either your country or mine as making any kind of sense (I have said this on many occasions but you’ll find people gloss over what they find uncontroversial and pick up only on what you say that they don’t like). I’m a ‘reformed-EU’ fan, not a non-conditional EU fan. Heck I’m not even that much of an EU fan, but I’m a pragmatist and I don’t enjoy watching my compatriots going to food banks.

            4. Most of the Muslims in the UK are the result of British colonialism and diddly to do with the EU. Unless Pakistan is some kind of honorary member of the EU and we’ve never been told. The EU has f*ck-all to say about immigration from Pakistan.

            5. The UK has exemptions in terms of taking in refugees and the EU can’t tell it to take any it doesn’t want to take.

            6. The UK is not part of Schengen.

            We’ve had Polish people here (and many in Scotland – they like us) since the second world war. We don’t have a problem with Poles. On the other hand, I don’t care for the fact that the Big Issue sellers these days all look like Romanians pimped out by gangmasters. I don’t see anything sensible about people coming from another country (where their lives are not in danger) to virtually beg on someone else’s streets. This is a UK government dereliction, not an EU one, as far as I can see.

            Is it OK for me to express some nuance or do I have to be for or agin’ everything without any detailed thought the way you are?

          • montsegur May 4, 2019 at 1:48 pm #

            I recently heard some East Germans went to … wait for it … (the former) German Southwest Africa [Namibia]. They run hotels and other businesses. Getting back on track after those naughty Brits kicked them out in 1918!

            But mostly, I think they went to the former West Germany. The displacement of population in Germany is more evidence of how miserable the economic policy of the West was regarding the East in the aftermath of the Wall’s fall. Many rural areas of E Germany are now practically depopulated with zero investment. What investment was made in the former East Germany was used to glitz up the big cities like Leipzig and Dresden.

            But yeah, the influx of Poles into the UK after the Wall fell was a direct result of the sweeping away of what remained of the eastern European economies. The large Western retailers still enjoy huge tax breaks in those countries (that the local firms don’t !) and pay depressed wages. The EU firmly believes in keeping its eastern colonies down, although the Eurocrats in Brussels would rather run themselves through before speaking honestly about such things.

            All of the nationalist unrest in various EU countries is neither a passing fad nor accidental in its emergence at this point in the EU’s history. Regrets if I repeat myself, but the leadership of Europe squandered a magnificent opportunity that it was given in 1989.


          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 2:50 pm #


            I never thought it was a good idea to add in the Eastern countries anyway. And we had the choice – under EU rules, specifically – not to allow migration from those regions straight away following accession.

            But one Tony Blair decided they should be allowed to come straight away and waived the dispensation.

            I find it interesting that Yanis Varoufakis, who was Greek Finance Minister when Greece had to get further loans from the EU (Greece lied about its fiscal state to get into the EU in the first place) and who has written books about the EU leaders, for whom he has utter contempt, STILL thinks the UK is barking for choosing to leave, because of what the consequences will be.

            We could have stayed the economic basket case that we were before we joined and no-one would have known any better.

          • montsegur May 4, 2019 at 3:18 pm #

            I never thought it was a good idea to add in the Eastern countries anyway. And we had the choice – under EU rules, specifically – not to allow migration from those regions straight away following accession.

            GreenAlba, this is the precise problem with Europe’s “leadership”, since 1989 at least. They don’t care how much damage they do to any Europeans with their policies. Their politics are about making a small clique richer — MUCH richer — and ordinary Europeans can go to Hell.

            As for eastern Europe, well, the EU, with all of its high ideas and radiant self-admiration, would have looked both timid and brazenly fake had they not brought in the countries east of Germany. For it is all EUROPE — the notions of western Europeans notwithstanding. And if the EU wanted, and still desperately want, for EUROPE to be ‘a thing’, they couldn’t just economically wall it off. Such an act would have not served the wealthy of western Europe, who above all were those that profited from enlargement of the EU into the formerly communist countries.

            This is the great unwashed and unspoken problem of the EU: the Union is about nothing more than making big money for a chosen few. All of the things that were nice for regular folk like slacker borders, fewer currencies, etc. — were simply by-products of the Great Game of Europe’s wealthy. And I call it a ‘problem’ because, now, these rich people want more than simple economic exploitation. They want more political power and clout in international affairs — something that a structure they built to make more money wasn’t designed to deliver. Thus the Union creaks and groans while lending the deafest of ears to the popular discontents.


        • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 11:39 am #

          But I did accidentally come across the origin of that urban myth that Janos is fond of about refugees to the UK being better treated than British pensioners.


          Not just the UK obviously. This is a piece of urban mythology without borders. A truly globalist meme.

          When you read the arithmetical origin of the meme you really do have to wonder how these people could possibly be the same ones who like to cast aspersions on the IQs of other races.

          But the success of the meme certainly does back up that saying about lies making their way half way round the world before the truth has got it trousers on. There’s no reining in this one.

          • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 4:24 pm #


            I just saw a poll for the Euro Parliament elections. Farage’s Brexit Party has 30%. Labor is in second place with 21%.Conservatives 13%; LibDem 10%, etc https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-03/brexit-party-soars-european-parliament-polls-9-points-a

            How does that work? Are there election districts and the plurality winner takes the district, no run-offs?

            Because with 7 partys splitting up the vote; Farage with 30% could win well over 50% of the districts.

            I think that kind of shock would cause Juncker to resign and finally check himself into rehab. LOL

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 12:55 pm #


            Well, leaving aside that I keep being told only idiots pay attention to polls…!

            …there are constituencies (which are quite large since there are only 751 MEPs. For example Scotland has six MEPs, but 59 MPs in Westminster.

            Voting system varies by constituency but has to be some form of proportional representation, so it should be more representative than the Westminster FPTP system (which results in such anomalies as the SNP at one time taking practically the whole of Scotland with only about 50% of the votes – the Scottish parliament uses PR too). Scotland,England and Wales use a party list system while Northern Ireland uses a version of the Single Transferable Vote, for example.

            So, theoretically Farage should get 30% not 50%! Assuming the polls are valid.

            More details here if you’re interested:


  15. Anon1970 May 3, 2019 at 11:32 am #

    What was Victoria Nuland’s role in the Ukrainian Revolution of 2014? At the time, Hillary had already left her Sect. of State post (in Feb. 2013) to run for president. Ms. Nuland has largely stayed under the radar. She worked in both the Bush administration (for Dick Cheney) and in the Obama administration (for Clinton and Kerry).

    My guess is that the US role in the Ukrainian revolution will never be fully investigated by House as too much dirt might rise to the surface.

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    • outsider May 3, 2019 at 11:45 am #

      And it’s too late to prosecute John McCain for his role.

      • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

        Oh what the hell! Let’s do it posthumously anyway. We’ve blown through money on a lot worse things lately. Might be good for what ails us.

        • benr May 3, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

          Ah I like it a weekend at Johnies err bernies we could prop him up like a puppet.
          On the flip side that seems rather disrespectful so never mind.

          • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 3:19 pm #

            I hear the old bird’s appearance improved after embalming. Couldn’t have gotten any worse! I did a drunken riff on Reagan a few years back in the same vein, but it’s lost to history now. Got quite a rise out of the small town university chat board I posted on. Who knew millenials had such thin skins?

    • montsegur May 3, 2019 at 2:40 pm #

      Don’t forget the role of the German State, which conveniently wrapped itself in the flag of the EU while its political blundering provoked revolution and civil war in Ukraine.

      It is no wonder that, when Nuland was overhead saying “F… the EU” … the European politician who took grave offense was Forever Chancellor Merkel, a person who is not an EU official at all. Her response, along with the lack of official response by the EU itself, rather ripped the mask off of the charade in Brussels.

      The whole “Ukraine initiative” of the EU was German-inspired, German-executed, and turned into yet another German diplomatic fiasco … but the EU got to hold the bag for Berlin. In the EU, that’s considered “being partners”.


  16. hmuller May 3, 2019 at 11:33 am #

    God forbid, anyone discuss Barry’s “social life” in Chicago.

    • benr May 3, 2019 at 11:42 am #

      Indeed but anything can be discussed or said about Trump.

  17. elysianfield May 3, 2019 at 11:34 am #

    “Did they suppose that no one would ever notice?”-JHK

    Considering the election of Clinton a given, no one would have….

    Secret crime is successful crime….

  18. ozone May 3, 2019 at 11:41 am #

    “It’s surely true that the public is sick of the RussiaGate spectacle. (I know readers of this blog complain about it.) But it’s no exaggeration to say that this is the worst and most tangled scandal that the US government has ever seen, and that failing to resolve it successfully really is an existential threat to the project of being a republic. I was a young newspaper reporter during Watergate and that was like a game of animal lotto compared to this garbage barge of malfeasance.” — JHK

    Sorry to say, but however [admittedly] “tangled” the RusskieGate scandal is, it’s certainly not the “worst” that’s ever been perpetrated by the mendacious toadies also known as “My Honorable Friends” (American politicians). I’m of a mind that the Kennedy assassination could be an example of a larger “scandal” that left its colluders, conspirators and organizers untouched by the Limp Arm of The Law. (Long for some; limp for others… especially after some back-room compromises and palm-greasing.)

    I’m no longer sure that Mr. Kunstler is really aware of what the status quo consists of or how deep its corruption and powers of diversion. I hold out no hope that the plot to blame Trumpian deals with the Russians for the Poisonous Peripatetic Pantsuit’s electoral faceplant will ever be prosecuted far enough to nab/punish the true (and highest-placed) conspirators. …Sure, I could be wrong, but it will surprise me if I turn out to be.

    Aside: I’m well aware of how deeply the banker’s bag-boy, Biden, is entrenched and rotted by his life in The Swamp; his voting record and co-sponsoring of some key corporate gift bills is proof enough of what he *really* values. Yes, the party machine is out to con its voting base once again. It’s a one-way ticket to Loserville if they should nominate Biden, but hubris can promote some very powerful, historically potent delusions. (Also, look at how Bernie was elbowed to the back of the bus by said machine. We (the pee-pull) are not allowed to have a choice in leaders, especially if it might upset the smooth operation of the grift and skimming operations.)

    • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 11:53 am #

      All true, but the JFK hit is still officially a “conspiracy theory;” aka, things which must never be spoken of in serious company. Likewise 9-11 and the GWoT, of course. No wonder we’re all going collectively insane. We can’t even begin to address the basic untruths underlying all this madness.

      • ozone May 3, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

        I think you’re correct. The general numbness and insanity evinced in the population is the result of a serious case of cognitive dissonance (supported and promoted by the spell-casters of obfuscation…).

        • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 12:37 pm #

          But in the cosmic court who is it that could be held responsible for this boondoggle. Exactly who’s life is it. Is it yours if you just give it away. Do people who voted for trump or Hilary deserve a second chance?

          The better question is will they get one.

          • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 12:40 pm #


            Because even Hitler deserves to be capitalized.

      • Nightowl May 4, 2019 at 2:41 pm #

        9/11 is the core of it for Gen X, Millenials, and Boomers. This was a cultural/societal turning point, IMO.

        The Russia Lie and Spygate rise to nearly the same level, but the first wound was the deepest, and is still gaping.

    • capt spaulding May 3, 2019 at 11:55 am #

      Biden, just another politician who has managed to hang in there and sell out his influence like most of the other long serving members of Congress.

      • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

        Credit where credit is due, Uncle Joe’s peddled influence better than most.

  19. BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 11:41 am #

    Well, every other day for 2 years CNN and MSNBC announced yet another ‘Bombshell’ report that would bring Trump down once and for all.

    Can we expect any ‘Bombshell’ reports on Biden’s $1.5 billion payout from Ukraine? Maybe reporters are in the field — like in days of yore — diggin for the true facts as I type this?


    • benr May 3, 2019 at 11:43 am #

      If they do they might be buried in some field as well.

    • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 11:50 am #

      Question is, will it ever be reported if it exists?

      • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

        They are digging, or someone is. Or someone is making sure tracks stay covered.″,”24.0232″,”49.8383″,”1″,”EU”,”UA”,””,”Lviv”,”L’vivs’ka Oblast

        Visited 55 times in the last week. Friend or foe? Or perhaps like ‘Russian’ influence the actual influence may ping from an entirely different location. Electrons are nimble.

        UA is the country code for Ukraine. Strange I know, it is what it is.

        • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

          Into the Great Wide Open Tom Petty

          Into the great wide open
          Under them skies of blue
          Out in the great wide open
          A rebel without a clue

        • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

          You dogs are good at digging! Do you do gophers right here in the US too?

    • goldpen May 3, 2019 at 11:51 am #

      It is amazing, although no one should be amazed, that Biden is running. I read somewhere yesterday that Obama quietly talked Biden out of throwing his hat in the ring in 2016. Of course that may be because he had a deal with the Clintons that 2016 was to be Hillary’s time since he and the DNC threw her under the bus in 08. But it may be because Obama feared a Biden candidacy might just give the GOP opposition researchers a LOT of ammunition to fire at both Biden and Obama. As in very high crimes and misdeanors ammunition. Hillary was bad enough in that regard for sure, but the MSM and the DC Swamp was a part of the “agreement” that 2016 was to be her time. She could’ve point black shot and killed someone on the streets of NYC and they’d have her back. Wait….Where have I heard that before? Lol… Anyway, I can’t imagine that Obama is happy about this Biden candidacy. Pop up the popcorn. Make that beer run. This will get interesting…..

      • montsegur May 4, 2019 at 1:57 pm #

        It is amazing, although no one should be amazed, that Biden is running.

        One of a large group of sacrificial somethings. I think the serious ones among senior Dem leadership realize Trump will be hard to beat in 2020 and so are playing out political fantasy for lack of any better options. Who they choose to run in 2024 will probably be of a different cut.


  20. S M Tenneshaw May 3, 2019 at 11:43 am #

    Project much?

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  21. jdhines May 3, 2019 at 11:52 am #


    Back to true form I see, delusions and all. Since GGG, your new hero, is able to thumb his nose at the rule of law, you won’t mind when the liberals do the same thing, right? Turn around is fair play. No whining when the liberals declare a national emergency on gun violence and start the confiscations.

    Just as Lindsey and company impeached Slick Bill for lying, it’s not quite the same thing when the shoe is on the other right foot, is it? You are a full ledged Conservative now.

    He’s your boy now and you will have to live with that as best you can. Nice standardbearer you’ve got there!


    • benr May 3, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

      JDHINES what planet do you live on if you think Jim is a fan of Trump he just appears to be a lot more fair on his assessment then say you are.
      As far as rule of law there was NONE of it under Obama-Biden and Eric Holder plenty of stuff happened that a normal functioning DOJ should have gone after.
      Gun running aka operation fast and furious!
      IRS scandals with 501C3 status for Conservative groups.
      The bergdahl affair!
      Hundreds of millions handed over to Iran.

      47 of Mr. Obama’s 73 inspectors general signed an open letter in 2014 decrying the administration’s stonewalling of their investigations but yea Trump is your anti-hero.
      Could it be that you don’t really look into both sides as much as you should or are you just hyper partisan and don’t care because the ends justify the means?

        • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 12:37 pm #


          Yes, I did want to say that Jim is now a Trumpist Conservative, not just a Conservative; there is a difference. He carries water for Trump now, whether or not he admits it, is a different question.

          Anyone who thinks that Imperial Presidential Bill Barr is an honest broker needs a check-up from the neck-up. Please, what a partisan, Iran-Contra, apologizing for, a political hack of the absolute worst kind.

          Shame on you Jim, you should really know better than to throw in with this Breitbart, Alex Jones, Lindsey Graham flip-flopper bunch.

          For a smart guy, you say some….well, there’s no use trying to appeal to your better angels… you are a full-fledged Trumpist, plain and simple.


          • hmuller May 3, 2019 at 1:10 pm #


            You’re saying Bill Barr is not an honest broker. You realize the AG serves the President, so yes he or she will be biased to some degree. That means carrying out the President’s policies without breaking the law.

            Remember Eric Holder, illegally running guns to narco-terrorists and getting paid in big bags of drugs. Now that’s carrying water for the President and breaking a few laws!

            And then there’s the lovely AG Loretta (make me an offer) Lynch. holding illegal, ex-parte meeting with parties to an on going investigation in her plane on the tarmac. We were not supposed to find out about that. I won’t speculate on what was said; but it’s a fact Hillary was cleared a few days later.

          • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

            He serves at the pleasure of the President, but he IS NOT his personal Roy Cohn for G_d’s sake! Wake up cranks!

          • benr May 3, 2019 at 1:59 pm #

            Nice sidestep I see you can’t or won’t answer the simple question and in doing so you have answered.
            You are hyper partisan and don’t care about the rule of law much less our great country.
            Instead you feel more and vindicated when your side wins!
            How vary Saul Alinskyite of you.
            Disgusting really you have zero moral leg to stand on much less point fingers and bark nonsense.

          • seawolf77 May 3, 2019 at 6:52 pm #

            Barr is living proof of the joke what do you call 500 dead lawyers- a good start. What do you call 500 Trumptards- a government.

      • debt May 3, 2019 at 3:26 pm #

        Jdhines is Asoka/Janet – government troll from Arlington, VA

        Everything he/it says is a lie.

        • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 7:43 pm #


        • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 9:47 pm #

          I understand the concept of a government troll. What I don’t get is why. Does the deep state benefit from him making a fool of himself publicly?

          • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 3:34 am #

            You understand the concept of a government troll…

            That makes you one stupid dumbass. The gov’t does what? Pays people to address this ragtag collection of about 12 jackasses who have nothing better to do in life than blubber their thoughts all day? Wouldn’t they be trump’s trolls if they are GOVERNMENT trolls.

            Do you have any teeth? I’m still trying to picture what that woman in the store saw when she looked at you and almost crapped her panties.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 11:10 am #

            What do you get out of insulting strangers on the internet?

          • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 11:59 am #

            Farmer Joe

            A satisfaction similar to whatever it is you get exhibiting the useless and fucked up opinions you spew as if they were facts. You just need to know not everyone agrees that you are as sane as you think you are.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

            You need to take a long hard look in the mirror.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

            And Evelyn, any time you disagree with one of my “crazy opinions” PLEASE present a counter factual. I would love to have an open, honest, and fact based discussion about what reality is.

          • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 4:37 pm #

            Oh Evelyn, you wrote:

            “this ragtag collection of about 12 jackasses who have nothing better to do in life than blubber their thoughts all day?”

            Make that 13 jackasses. You’re here.

          • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 6:31 pm #

            Yer right sort of, 12 jackasses like I mentioned and 1 who pokes her head in once or twice a day to see what jackassery the jackasses are saying.

        • Nightowl May 4, 2019 at 2:49 pm #

          Could also be Media Matters.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

            That makes more sense.

        • jdhines May 6, 2019 at 11:43 am #

          Arlington, VA? Not anymore.

          Janet, I mean, JDH

      • Majella May 5, 2019 at 9:14 pm #


        Let’s apply Ocaam’s Razor here…

        “Gun running aka operation fast and furious!” -Simply put – incompetent FBI managers…

        IRS scandals with 501C3 status for Conservative groups” – if an organization is rorting the tax status of a charitable institution, should it not be investigated?

        “The bergdahl affair!” – he got life imprisonment, which sounds like the sort of outcome you’d expect of a deserter, no?

        “Hundreds of millions handed over to Iran.” – ha! The Government FROZE Iranian cash assets held in US banks. Later, after it got the deal it wanted, it RELEASED the funds, which were Iranian to start with.

        So I call bullshit.

        Don’t let facts get in the way of a good story, benr….

    • Janos Skorenzy May 3, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

      Black/White. Good/Bad. You’re trying to think with that part of the mind that can only see polar opposites – the part that can’t think in other words. Feels not reals.

      • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

        Let me get this straight. Am I reading the nightstalker finally admitting that there are shades of gray?

      • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

        My dear Janos,

        I call them as I see them, but I may be wrong. It seems fairly certain that Jim is firmly in the Trumpist GGG camp now, no?

        • Janos Skorenzy May 3, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

          No, he’s just against the Madness of the Left. Would any Trump lover call Trump, “the Golden Golem of Greatness” as he does regularly?

          But you’re right in a way: Middle America is against the Mad Left too – and that’s why we voted for Trump. So we aren’t for him either. Thus Kunstler finds himself among the great unwashed, hardly a comfortable position for him I imagine.

          I’m done with Trump personally. MAGA just turned out to be MIGA and business as usual. He’s another Reagan, Bush (both), etc.

          • seawolf77 May 3, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

            Make America Moral Again- MAMA.

    • goldpen May 3, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

      Wow JDH….How sophisticated you are! Highlight the word ‘sophist’ within ‘sophisticated.

      Jim is not a full fledged conservative now, and Trump is not “his standard bearer”. I think Jim is both sad and pissed over what his lifelong party, the Democrat Party, has devolved into being. It has been a long time in the making. It is just so much more readily apparent now in the aftermath Trump’s upset of their darling Hillary. They have no moral authority to go after Trump.

      Oh, and the fast track to the devolution of the Dem Party really did begin with “Slick Bill”. This modern era of faux liberals have been thumbing their collective noses at the rule of law long before 2016.

      • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

        golden pen,

        Sorry. Does he carry water for Trump et al? Yes, he does. Ergo, he is a card carrying, fellow traveler, and loyal Trumpist. It is abundantly clear and as a Trumpist yourself, you should rejoice.

        By the way, thanks for the lesson on Sophistry, I’ll take that under advisement… not really.


        • goldpen May 3, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

          LOL! My friends and relatives would find your calling me a Trumpist to be hilarious. I’m about as anti-Trump as they come.

          But unlike you I do not have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Life’s too short to get hysterical over the GGG. Every President in my lifetime has been either a fool at the least, or a pathological crook at the worst.

          We’re fucked with or without the GGG. ‘Murica is circling the drain.

          • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

            Well, perhaps you are just a run of the mill crank? I do agree that ‘Murica is going to the dogs – no offense K-Dog.

          • benr May 3, 2019 at 2:01 pm #

            100% in agreement it just the Democrats in power are slightly more odious and corrupt.
            Both parties have us circling the drain one faster and one slower.

    • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

      >>> No whining when the liberals declare a national emergency on gun violence and start the confiscations.

      Trump has a Constitutional duty to secure the border. Gun confiscations, on the other hand, would violate the Constitution. So that right there is a false equivalency.

      This is the mistake that Dems keep making; you can’t fault the President for carrying out his duties just because you don’t personally like him, or you don’t like certain aspects of the Constitution.

      Now if a future Dem Prez wants to declare a national emergency to stop rampant voter fraud then by all means go for it. That would be an equivalency.

      • jdhines May 3, 2019 at 1:14 pm #

        If that is true, why didn’t he secure it when the corrupt Dems offered him the chance to do it with $25 Billion? Puzzling, no? Spare me the pretzel logic of why he didn’t, OK?

        • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 2:22 pm #

          How does this defend your false equivalency?

          Trump correctly rejected the bill because the $25 billion was in exchange for amnesty for tens of millions of invaders, would not have ended the “visa lottery”, and would have been doled out over ten years (asuming it wasn’t nullified by some future Dem administration).

          The only political solutions Dems offer involve massive amnesty for illegals—encouraging more of the same in the future. Heck, they even want to give illegals free health care.

          • Nightowl May 6, 2019 at 4:23 am #

            Notice JDH’s posting patterns here:

            He does one of two things. Lie or insult people.

            If he insults someone and they respond, he returns to insult again.

            But when he lies and is openly called out with verifiable facts, he disappears.

            As discussed elsewhere, guy is a paid troll. Likely MMFA.

    • Farmer Joe May 3, 2019 at 9:55 pm #

      “No whining when the liberals declare a national emergency on gun violence and start the confiscation.”

      The only way they are disarming me is by killing me.

      • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 8:11 am #

        A win/win for everybody!

        • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 11:13 am #

          Would you say that to my face if you were standing in front of me?

          The truth is Evelyn that you are a coward.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

            A coward, and a fool.

          • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

            Well if I had a Benelli pointed right at you and it was my assignment to take away your gun why wouldn’t I?

            I find you big blowhards who have to huff and puff and proclaim you ain’t takin’ MY gun away as if someone was threatening to cut your nuts off (sort of the same thing) pathetic and laughable.

            You were supposed to smile at “win/win”. It’s just a word contest going on here little man.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 12:25 pm #

            Evelyn, I don’t see how saying a government agent should kill me is funny. Please enlighten me.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

            General public,

            Pay attention!

            This is the democratic party showing its true colors.

          • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

            Huh? What makes you think I’m a democrat? Evidently you’ve missed a few of my anti-Hillary tirades.

            Farmer Joe, enlightenment is out of reach for you, don’t even try.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

            What makes me think you’re a dem is that every thing I’ve read that you’ve written backs their position.

          • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 7:33 pm #

            Farmer Joe

            I seriously doubt you could be enlightened with a keg of hot tar and a bag of feathers but for your sake I’ll make one last attempt before I get out of here. Just a few words that might help you, if they can just penetrate that thick skull of yours…

            People poison themselves by thinking the wrong way about things. Be an optimist. Stop limiting your thought and ideas just because people told you what you should believe as a young dumb fuck. I am not one to tell you this works but I believe it does, and you are not one to tell me it doesn’t just because you were led to believe it doesn’t. Anything is possible if you want it to be. Stop the insults and unnecessary behavior in these comments. People came here for positivity. It is not illegal to a have a free and wandering mind.? I know your mind wanders into the cess pool once in a while but keep trying.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 8:07 pm #

            Again, Ev, you need to look in the mirror. You have been nothing but hostile towards me.

            I came to my opinions on my own after getting bitch slapped by reality. The truth is I was a socialist before it was cool.

          • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 10:04 pm #

            Farmer Joe

            I have been hostile towards you and I’m sorry. I hope you have it in your black heart to forgive me.

            I’m going to try going away now and never coming back. At least until I know you’ve gone away too.

          • Farmer Joe May 5, 2019 at 12:19 am #

            Of course I forgive you, and I will do so without returning your insult.

            Let’s keep it civil from now on, shall we?

  22. oilie May 3, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

    Much as I would like to believe that there would be some retribution for those who created this dumpster fire of collusion delusion, I suspect that it will be stillborn. All that it would take would be a Horowitz report that says that Comey, McCabe et al. were justified in starting a counterintelligence investigation. Follow that with Huber’s report from the dead letter office that there is no evidence that Clapper or Brennan ever leaked anything of significance. The only way Barr gets beyond those hurdles is to find a convincing reason to employ a special counsel with both guts and teeth. But that would delay any real reckoning until after 2020 and thus maybe forever. In the meantime, if I were Barr, I would want more bodyguards.

    • volodya May 3, 2019 at 2:15 pm #

      They could just invoke the greater national interest as the justification for not prosecuting the same way that Holder did. Too big to jail was what he said. In this instance the reasoning could be gosh, it would just be too politically destabilizing, it would decrease America’s standing, it would be debilitating to America’s international credibility to undergo a protracted scouring of its intelligence agencies and law enforcement institutions.

      Besides, the people in question were and are patriots, giving long and selfless service to the country and so what message would that send to young and idealistic aspirants? Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country, right? And so what were Brennan and his ilk up to? They were acting in the defense of the national interest. Right? They were asking what they could do for their country. Right? So doesn’t it follow that there was therefore no criminal intent, but rather pure patriotic motive?

      You can convince yourself of damn near anything if you try and I expect that there will be no effort spared in these instances.

      • tucsonspur May 3, 2019 at 5:15 pm #

        What’s the tolerance level when it comes to truth and justice? If the evidence is there, and it may well be, these perpetraitors could be shown to be just that, rather than patriots with the national interest at heart.

        But that’s a very plausible smoke screen to put up. What we have of the media must blow it away, and zealous prosecution could increase our international standing rather than diminish it.

        If we fail to do this and are left with the rot, cynicism and apathy could soar, but the deplorables could become so hateful and filled with vengeance that public anger carries the day in 2020.

  23. Frank May 3, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

    Good morning James. Good commentary as usual

  24. Beryl of Oyl May 3, 2019 at 12:32 pm #


    I can imagine that those repeating the “with this much smoke…” propaganda talking point, despite all evidence to the contrary, would prefer that Mr. Kunstler just move on.

    Where did that come from in the first place? Someone in the Obama White House?
    Or someone like Alyssa Milano?
    At any rate, it was a stupid thing to say, and a stupid thing to repeat.

  25. Janos Skorenzy May 3, 2019 at 12:44 pm #


    Women, you are so, so very weak compared to us. This is just a timely reminder, one that you do well to heed before the Time of Troubles is upon us. Even I, not the Buck of the Herd by any means, am far stronger than the average frail vessel.

    I’m not in favor of the above garbage, but it is a balance considering that popular movies and shows are replete with young heroines stomping men. And in many quarters it’s considered the height of poor taste to believe or at least say that there’s any difference in the sexes – except the ones that favor Women of course.

    The Radical Feminists have raged about this from the beginning. There is often a core of Truth in the things they believe, but of course they ruin it with their hatred and aversion towards men, which skews any sane conclusion that they could draw from their valid observations.

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  26. FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

    Just got a junk mail from NYT:

    Our paywall is down so you can see the value of an independent press.

    The New Pogrom Times is experiencing some drop in traffic?

    Kunstler.com is on the rise, big time.

  27. seawolf77 May 3, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

    People on this blog think this is over. This is just beginning. And all of you know it. But I do love the Trump twitter silence.

    • goldpen May 3, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

      I agree with you seawolf77 that this is not over. And although I don’t believe that Mr. Kunstler is a Trumpist or a Trumptard, I do think he is mistaken about what is really in the Mueller Report. I also think that Barr has quite cleverly controlled the narrative about the report, but his control will probably slip. It is the ‘obstruction of justice’ evidence in the report that concerns Trump the most. And indeed he is right to be concerned.

      But, I agree with Jim that the Obama crowd including Hillary have some things to be worried about as well. Felonious and treasonous things.

      Is it ironic that Obama was such a big fan of the show House of Cards? He should certainly relate to the House of Cards he helped to build in real life.

      • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

        This will all be electioneering fodder, that’s all. Pelosi has no intention of bringing impeachment charges. WAY too much risk for both sides of the aisle now. Besides, we’ll have a bright shiny new war or two to take our minds off all this before you know it. That always make everything better again.

        • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 3:49 pm #

          LOL! That Archie had what we now refer to as “native intelligence.”

          But actually, there’s a pretty good argument to be made that war’s ARE a natural response to population pressures. Many (most/all?) species will resort to it when they go into overshoot and begin severely depleting their habitat. Technology has been our golden goose – SO FAR. But there are limits – literally – to all exponential functions.

        • goldpen May 3, 2019 at 5:02 pm #

          Well this little gem just popped up on CNN this afternoon. I now retract my earlier view that “this is not over” yet, and that Barr has been “controlling the narrative”. Seems that Herr Mueller told Lyndsey Graham that he doesn’t necessarily have any problems with what Barr has been saying. He’s just not happy with how the MSM has been reporting it.

          Poor MSM. Even Mueller thinks they’re shit! Bwahahahaha….


          • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 8:58 am #

            If Lindsay Graham said the world was flat I’d take out a level and glue it to his forehead. I wouldn’t believe anything that came out of that man’s mouth, except maybe a cock.

          • Majella May 5, 2019 at 9:38 pm #

            Geez, Goldpen – surely, it MUST be bullshit…it’s put out by CNN, your favorite fake-news provider!

    • goldpen May 4, 2019 at 10:14 am #

      Seawolf I bet there have been a few cocks in Lyndsey Graham’s mouth over the years.

  28. malthuss May 3, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

    Farmer Joe–TV personas, diversity quotas and grievance groups.

    I read Roseann [no last name necessary] and Ellen [same] both gave like 1% of income to charity.

    • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 11:36 am #

      Did you know liberals on average give less to charity than conservatives?


      These people love the idea of charity. They just believe it is someone else’s job.

      • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

        I imagine arithmetic wasn’t a strong subject for you.

        Let me explain it for you. If one group of people has 90% of the money, that means anyone not in that group has at most 10% of the money. There is a high probability that certain types of fools will believe that if the 90% group gives up say 5% of their money to charity and the other group gives up only say 40% of their money to charity, jackasses can bray that the 90% group gives more money to charity.

        You rednecks will drink cool-aid even when it tastes like shit won’t you?

        • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

          Evelyn, the fact of the matter is that poor, working class, religious people are the most charitable in the country. I’m sorry that facts don’t comport with what you believe is reality. Time to grow up.

          • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

            Some people don’t believe in a commonly shared reality Joe so you can only get so far with reason and facts.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 2:54 pm #

            I appreciate that fact, SSL. I suppose I have a naive hope that if I can’t get through to people like Evelyn, then maybe at least I can sway the mind of someone who reads this and is undecided.

          • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 6:40 pm #

            Well Farmer dumbfuck Joe, it just happens a majority of poor working class types are not republicans. I was disappointed one time when I learned, in reference to the religious factor (evangelicals) in politics, democrats had more Christians than republicans owing to the preponderance of christianity in the black culture.

            In any case take your oh so meaningful charity statistics and shove them up your ass. The greed and self-serving-ness that oozes from the republican wing in this country is why a few years ago Jim once proclaimed we should declare it was the republican party responsible for destroying this country. He was right then, but has apparently had a stroke or something since trump came onto the scene.

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 8:05 pm #

            The facts don’t support your world view, Ev.

          • Majella May 5, 2019 at 9:43 pm #

            SSL: “Some people don’t believe in a commonly shared reality Joe so you can only get so far with reason and facts.”

            SSL, you’d be surprised…maybe YOU should try some ‘reason and facts’ sometime. It’d be a refreshing change from your usual mealy-mouthed agreement with the last poster…

  29. BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 1:55 pm #

    19 US intel agencies had the goods on Trump, remember that? Probably be a good time to release what they have, don’t you think. Congressman Schiff also had the whole package, we were assured (every nite for 2 years) Is this what you mean when you say its not over?


  30. montsegur May 3, 2019 at 2:10 pm #

    the sainted former president Obama

    LOL! Thanks, Jim.

    If it is at all possible, the “mainstream” media will look even stupider when this emptying of the Obama administration chamber pots into the streets of the public is done.


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  31. FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 2:20 pm #

    Ukraine as the periphery of American Politics and Yuriy Lutsenko as its Epicenter

    While everyone is discussing the prospects for relations between Russia and Ukraine, Medvedev and Zelensky, and even the latter’s failed congratulations on the victory over Potroshenko, almost all the important issues of relations between these two countries and their leaders are not decided in Kiev or even in Moscow, but in Washington and Berlin.

    And not at all because Ukraine wants to become an outpost of the struggle of the West against Russia, and not even because the West wants it.

    The West in the face of Trump’s America has long been reluctant to do this, and is even afraid of being dragged into a conflict with Russia over Ukraine. Moreover, as I showed in a previous post, Putin’s Russia and Trump’s America are allies in solving the most important issues of our time, and the issue of using the territory of Ukraine to attack Russia after the appearance of new Russian weapons systems and the completion of Russian early warning system about nuclear attack is simply not on the agenda.

    Nevertheless, Potroshenko’s Ukraine is an existential threat to Trump’s America and Israel, and it’s not yours truly, an irresponsible blogger, who speaks about it, the President of the United States says so.

    The video below is so comprehensive, and so difficult to understand, that it will take a week or even a month to analyze. And I will focus on the analysis of events, which they say in a patter just a few minutes at the very beginning, but which in my opinion is more important than anything else.

    They talk about the documents proving the collaboration of the election campaign of Hillary Clinton with Ukraine and Russia, which Ukraine should provide to US Attorney General Barr. But more important than documents, in my opinion, the circumstances of their transfer to the Trump administration, which most likely did happen yesterday, that is, three days after Hannity (the interviewer) and Trump discussed it live.

    Moreover, you can consider it physiognomy, or an intuition, but on the Hannity’s forehead has been written surprise from what he learned from these documents, but he cannot yet share this surprise with the public, and only discusses what he has already discussed days ago.


    In my opinion, the circumstances of their transfer are that the Attorney General of Ukraine Yuriy Lutsenko wants, but cannot transfer, these documents through the US Embassy or the US intelligence agencies occupying entire two floors in the Ukrainian Security Building. But he can’t do this because according to the information he has, they all work for Hillary Clinton, who, having received these documents, will undoubtedly destroy them. He is ready to hand over these documents to President Trump, but the State Department will not give him a visa and this visa three days ago had to be issued either by the US Attorney General or by President Trump personally.

    And judging by the reaction of Trump and Hanniti, they do not consider this as Lutsenko’s paranoia, but take his fears quite seriously.

    And for my dear Americans these circumstances must be important because a very simple thing follows from them:

    The US ambassador to Ukraine and the US ambassador to Russia, along with US intelligence agencies in these countries, are conspiring to overthrow the lawfully elected US president, which, according to US law, is punishable by death.

    So they have nothing to lose, but even if only Hillary sits on the electric chair, they still face long years of imprisonment, and attempts by a democratic majority in the House of Representatives to pry for President Trump’s impeachment despite the lack of any chance to approve this decision in the US Senate says that Hillary Clinton still leads the US Democratic Party and she needs impeachment not for sporting interest, but for backdating the coup d’état that the special forces will have to perform in USA.

    And as you understand, it is precisely this inference that makes Yuriy Lutsenko very popular in the White House and even the epicenter of US politics. Since in this interview, Trump says not for the public, but exclusively in working order, that if Hillary’s plans work, then the United States will come to an end.

    He also tells how all his attempts with Hillary to come to an agreement failed and why this time there will be no such attempts.

    Moreover, the bitter struggle has reached such a level that I just don’t understand how he will deal with it, without revealing the fact of a coup d’état in Ukraine in 2014 and the fact that Hillary then, along with Victoria Nuland, continued to govern the United States (that is, ousted Obama from power as well as she has been trying to remove Trump from power for 2 years), guided not by the interests of the United States, but by the interests of the EU.

    And if this happens, then the anti-Russian rhetoric in the United States can be resolved and the phrase “compliance with the Minsk agreements” will acquire a completely different meaning.

    And Trump will have much more opportunities to settle peacefully the situation in Venezuela (now they simply do not exist and all it remains to drag out time)


    • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 3:04 pm #

      Where’ve you been, Wolfy?

      • seawolf77 May 3, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

        Cut by Admin.

        • Nightowl May 3, 2019 at 3:29 pm #

          Barr’s testimony had you worked up enough to return after the ban.


        • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

          left Barr stuttering like a like a gray headed autistic savant

          So Barr must be a PhD too then? LOL!

    • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 4:03 pm #


  32. Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

    >>> I say put Barr in jail if he doesn’t show.

    I’m more interested in exactly how you think Pelosi is going to accomplish that. Also, FYI, to do so would no doubt involve numerous felonies. Pelosi is not the Executive and can’t arrest anyone. But it doesn’t surprise me that she wants to arrest the AG while letting millions of illegals go free.

    • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 3:24 pm #

      >>> A: Contempt of Congress is a federal misdemeanor

      Interfering with the lawful duties of an Attorney General is also a felony. Taking police powers into your own hands is also a felony.

      Pelosi can try to impeach Barr, but only Trump’s executive can arrest him.

      • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

        It would be a tumor. Anybody screaming “It’s not a tumah!” would face consequences.

      • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 5:57 pm #

        >>> You must really think that if Trump really shot somebody on 5th Avenue that there would be no consequences.

        A sign of TDS is when you go from talking about AG Barr to some
        false equivalency comparison involving Trump as an active shooter. Take your TDS meds.

        I don’t recall Pelosi or the Dems raising a hue and cry when former FBI attorney and coup plotter Lisa Page ignored her Congressional subpoena. Or when Clinton’s erase-the-incriminating-email IT guy ignored his subpoena.

        As usual, double standards are the rule with Dems.

        • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

          A coup plotter. She work with chickens.

          • Exscotticus May 4, 2019 at 7:30 pm #

            Coup d’état. And yes she does work with chickens. Proverbial ones.

  33. Q. Shtik May 3, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

    It’s hardly out of the question that Barack Obama himself and Mrs. Clinton may face charges in all this mischief and depravity. – JHK


    Speaking of whom,

    This just rolled into my inbox from a friend. It contains some facts I never knew before. At least I assume they’re facts:

    Here is what Dr. Jack Wheeler wrote about Obama.

    The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract, empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.

    He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.

    What he isn’t, not a genetic drop of, is ‘African-American,’ the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn’t a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.
    Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
    It’s something Hillary doesn’t understand – how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
    Thus Obama has become the white liberals’ Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.
    Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior. He is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American.
    And yet he got elected, not once but twice. Thanks to those who did not think it was important to vote for freedom and those who were willing to give up their freedoms for entitlements.
    Remember you don’t have to be on a southern plantation to be a slave, if you are dependent on government entitlements you just have a different slave owner.

    Let’s never be fooled again.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

      Here is what Dr. Jack Wheeler wrote about Obama

      Typical vile Hillary’s propaganda.

      Obama’s smarter than this entire message board, even including me.

      • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

        Including you?!? Say it ain’t so, Ol’ Finc! But really now old boy, you need to get that Obama crush checked out sometime. Not usually fatal, but it can lead you to spending your remaining years curled up in a fetal position on the floor of a dingy Caribbean island shack muttering unintelligible gibberish with bong smoke coming out of your ears. On second thought…

      • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 4:09 pm #

        How famously Obama in 2008 rolled all over the asphalt two warmongers, Hillary Clinton and McCain, saved the world from the nuclear war which would be undoubtedly unleashed by either one of them and deservedly won the Nobel Peace Prize for this, proving that he is a worthy heir to his grandfather, John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

        • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 4:22 pm #

          I assume you’ve documented your ‘grandfather’ assertion here before at some length already?

          Yep, those silent drone attacks sure can be quite peaceful and relaxing when the natives – wherever they might be – get restless. I wonder… Do you think future White House residents or maybe even Obama himself will feel the same way about them when that same technology becomes widely available to ordinary citizens of whatever political stripe who want to exercise their “peaceful” impulses over the grand old palace as well? All in a thoroughly respectful and I’m sure quite patriotic manner, of course.

          By the way, I’m detecting faint wisps of smoke already. Better get it checked out!

      • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 4:18 pm #

        And you all are an ungrateful bunch.

        • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 4:25 pm #

          So this crush is a full blown obsession now, is it?

    • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 3:46 pm #

      A gem, I have not read this yet. It is on my to-do list. When I first saw Moors & Sicilians some time ago I had to find out more. I’m like and Australian sheep dog that way.


      • K-Dog May 3, 2019 at 3:55 pm #


      • Majella May 5, 2019 at 9:49 pm #

        a ‘Blue Heeler’?

    • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 3:50 pm #

      Arabs operating out of Zanzibar and Mozambique were histories biggest African slavers, starting in about the 4th century AD all the way til 1890, when the British Navy finally put an end to it.

      Trouble is, if blacks in say, Saudi Arabia, tried to shake down the Saudi govt like blacks shake down the US Govt over the issue of slavery, the guillotines in Rijhad would be working overtime.


      • Ishabaka May 3, 2019 at 4:29 pm #

        There is an active slave market today in Libya, thank’s to Barry and She Whose Turn It Was (“We came, we saw, he died cackle, cackle, cackle”) overthrow of Ghaddhafi. You can buy a Bantu for as little as $200US.

        • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 4:59 pm #

          Unfortunately, before kicking Hillary screaming out of the State Department, Obama had little control over the US Foreign Policy.

          Even when he finally did kick her out, she still hang over his Presidency till the very end, and – as we do find today – beyond.

          Hillary is an extremely resourceful criminal.

          • Exscotticus May 3, 2019 at 6:04 pm #

            >>> Unfortunately, before kicking Hillary screaming out of the State Department, Obama had little control over the US Foreign Policy.

            You mean except for the part where he drone-killed lots of people?

        • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 7:12 pm #

          Saudi Arabia, Oman and maybe Qatar, slavery wasn’t banned until 1970.

        • Tate May 5, 2019 at 5:27 pm #

          You can buy a Bantu for as little as $200US.

          — Do they come with shots?

    • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

      I say Michael [Barrys name for her] borrowed the 2 children.
      Ask Joan Rivers.

      • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 4:13 pm #

        Sloppy Hillary’s propaganda.

      • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 7:10 pm #

        Hey Malthus

        That ‘Wasteland Ledger’ you started upstream

        That’s the best post you ever made


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    • montsegur May 4, 2019 at 12:36 am #

      Q., I would agree the USA was sold a bill of goods on who Obama is.

      Wheeler is mostly correct that Obama is not African-American. Obama is about as African-American as I am, which is to say, not at all.

      Obama and I share these experiences — having both been expatriates as children and later having spent significant time among African-Americans.

      I assure the Americans among the readers here that the expatriate experience as a child makes one ‘different’ among one’s own people. Obama certainly has more in common with others who grew up as expatriates than he has with average African-Americans.

      Those facts, though, would not have sold well politically. And so, we have Obama, the first “African-American” to have been POTUS.


      • volodya May 4, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

        If I recall correctly, Obama didn’t fool Black people ie African-Americans, who had slave ancestors. If Obama had been the descendant of slaves, his rise to the Presidency would have been one thing. But he wasn’t. He just happened to have dark skin. Having said that, dark skin would have been a disqualifier not long ago. And having said THAT, white liberals could look admiringly at themselves in the mirror once Obama was elected, which is what this was all about in the first place. As for Blacks, once Obama clinched the nomination, it would’ve been a stretch to vote Republican, given that they now had a “black” contender.

    • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

      The Kenyan is a shape shifter like most of them. He is half White when that makes White liberals feel good about themselves embracing a colored who is allegedly eloquent and refined. And he is a Black man when he can be the father of hoodrats and a companion of cop killers and jihadis.

      • Tate May 5, 2019 at 5:38 pm #

        He’s an excuse & poster boy for the black African population explosion’s diaspora to America. Their children & grandchildren are quickly assimilated to American culture, alright. To American Hip Hop culture, that is.

        What could possibly go wrong?

  34. Ishabaka May 3, 2019 at 4:28 pm #

    But, but, but, we already know “What Happened” – She Whose Turn It Was gave us the inscribed tablets…….

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  35. FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 4:30 pm #

    I assume you’ve documented your ‘grandfather’ assertion here before at some length already? Scratch

    You have assumed correctly, sir!

    While all these Shakespearean passions were boiling, the future President of the United States John Kennedy went to school, preparing for his future exploits ala Tom Sawyer, in particular, improving his skills in toilet terrorism (he blew up a school toilet).

    After leaving school in 1935, he lost his favorite training ground and tried to console himself with trips abroad. Taking into account his merits in the field of preventing nuclear war, I believe that as a result of this trip, he can safely be awarded the palm tree not only in toilet terrorism, but also in admiration of beauty, as on the way to London the acute aesthetic perception of reality forced him to visit Kenya in order to enjoy the beauty of Lake Victoria.

    It’s hard to say how much the aesthetic and beneficial presence of the future US President John F. Kennedy influenced the fact that nine months later one of these beauties – a stately girl named Habiba – gave birth to an extremely capable boy.

    Full text is at : https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-national-blues/#comment-302743

    • Ol' Scratch May 3, 2019 at 4:38 pm #

      Well, that JFK did like to circulate. You never know, although I’m guessing it wouldn’t have been a proper subject for Sunday dinner in Hyannis Port. Oh Jackie, have I mentioned the time I…?

    • Tate May 5, 2019 at 5:48 pm #

      There is persuasive evidence that Barack Obama’s biological father was Frank Marshall Davis. First I’ve heard that JFK sired Barack Sr. That silverback bore no family resemblance to JFK, although maybe Teddy.

  36. 100th Avatar May 3, 2019 at 5:37 pm #

    “It’s a further irony of the moment that the suddenly leading Democratic candidate, Joe Biden…”

    Does anyone else find this rather peculiar?

    That Joe Biden, the WASPiest and oldest in a party that has defined itself as the antithesis to this paradigm, has suddenly, from out of nowhere, taken the lead ahead of constituent favorites?

    Who says?
    Who has decided that he is the frontrunner?
    The best to take on Trump?

    Would it be the same people that tell you what to consume, what to watch, what to eat, what to believe, what to support, what to hate, and how to vote?

    • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

      Sorry, wrong. He is NOT running (in the normal sense).

      Hillary is cooking up her next coup, and she needs a cover.

    • tucsonspur May 3, 2019 at 6:05 pm #

      Remember, it’s early. To have any success at all he’ll have to take on some color.

      Touchy feely and Ukrainian dealy.

      Yeah, that’s right, just might be the backer of this cracker.

  37. tucsonspur May 3, 2019 at 5:58 pm #

    Dinocars rule and ruin the Earth.
    Having their moment
    Enjoying their Birth

    We manufacture and pave roads to the fracture
    And to the Day
    The Earth Stands Still.

    It’s an Earth unclean
    During this Holocene
    Dinocars, Climate, Civilization on the Cusp

    Bumper to Bumper
    Where the Rubber meets the Road
    And the Roadkill is us.

    Dinocars drink from the Black Lagoon
    Drink it down
    ‘Till the last Teaspoon

    • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 7:36 pm #

      what was the carbon footprint of the dinosaur farts.

      • elysianfield May 4, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

        “what was the carbon footprint of the dinosaur farts.”

        I read a book of which the subject was water. The book stated as a fact that every drop of water we drink was at one time filtered through the kidneys of a dinosaur.

        Permit me, then to suggest you not only drink Pterodactyl piss, but further that you like it!

        • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

          “The book stated as a fact that every drop of water we drink was at one time filtered through the kidneys of a dinosaur.”

          EF, is there not an entrepreneurial homeopath somewhere who could monetise that?

          • elysianfield May 4, 2019 at 7:21 pm #

            “EF, is there not an entrepreneurial homeopath somewhere who could monetise that?

            Indeed there is…Evian water is naïve spelled backwards…a good start.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 1:15 pm #


            Haha. I’m at the age where I can’t remember if I’ve heard that before or not 🙂 .

    • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

      I like your poem. Imagine the day when the highways are quiet and empty. And when nighttime comes you can see all the stars in the sky. And the dinocars will be history. And we will have to work together again to get by.

      • tucsonspur May 5, 2019 at 3:44 am #

        Thanks, SSL. I get to see a lot of stars out this way and it’s wonderful. Yes, soon they will be like fossils, and return to the earth.

  38. FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 5:59 pm #

    Dems need to push the impeachment through the House not for sporting interest – there is no hope for legally pushing it through the Senate – but for backdating the coup d’état that the special forces under Hillary command will attempt to perform in USA.

    The time draws nigh

    • BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

      In other words, impeachment; nothing more than a big insular circle jerk amongst Dems in Congress. They’ll probably spend at least 18 months on it, or at least until Nov 2020.


      • FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

        No, if they say succeed in a coup, they’ll be able to present impeachment as a “legitimate” cause for changing the government for the “american people[deep sigh]”.

        Senators, after corresponding interviews by Hillary’s Flying Monkeys, will vote accordingly.

        • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 8:54 am #

          Hillary Envy in full bloom.

  39. FincaInTheMountains May 3, 2019 at 6:07 pm #

    And now listen to this Trump’s interview after a phone call to Putin and compare to what I’ve been saying:


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    • tucsonspur May 3, 2019 at 6:21 pm #

      I need more Red Meat!

    • goldpen May 4, 2019 at 10:22 am #

      Ol’ Mike Huckabee has become a big ol’ boy again.

      On a serious note, I hope like hell that John Brennan gets convicted. That snaky son-of-a-bitch. Same for the rest of them, the whole den of vipers.

    • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 1:44 pm #

      And vengeance can be righteous. Thus vengeance is mine saith the Lord.

  40. BackRowHeckler May 3, 2019 at 7:43 pm #

    Had some drama today in Hartford Superior court.

    Last week a 15 year old Hispanic was ventilated by 5 gunshots, found dead inside a stolen car in the North End (the ghetto) Local TV news described him as “a good father”, saying it with a straight face. They tried to interview the family but it didn’t go good because nobody spoke English.

    An arrest was made, an 18 year old black who had shot 2 people a few months ago. Why he wasn’t in jail I don’t know, but there’s a move on in the state not to lock up minority youth no matter what they do. Anyway, when the alleged shooter appeared in court today for arraignment he was attacked by the victims family right inside the courtroom. A huge brawl ensued between the victims family and the alleged shooters family. An army of cops and court marshalls appeared and cleared the room. Needless to say court was adjourned for the day.

    Our formerly prosperous, orderly little Yankee State is taking on a 3rd world hue. Its a sad thing to see.


    • benr May 3, 2019 at 8:04 pm #

      Welcome to the pain we in California have been in for a decade or two.

      • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 11:48 am #

        Wait you live in California. God, now I know why you’re fucked up. Why don’t you put all of us out of our misery and go postal on some poor immigrants? Be a martyr for your orange faced hero. Be a hero benr, not just dogshit.

        • elysianfield May 4, 2019 at 12:14 pm #



          • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

            No. But thank you for asking.

      • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 7:03 pm #

        “Our formerly prosperous, orderly little Yankee State is taking on a 3rd world hue.”

        “Welcome to the pain we in California have been in for a decade or two.”

        The entire country is taking on a third world hue, from what I can tell. Welcome to Long Emergency, USA.

    • malthuss May 3, 2019 at 10:10 pm #

      Blame LBJ [1965].
      Blame Clinton.

      you mentioned that in PR, the sign at airport says ‘go to Massachusetts’–so blame them.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2019 at 7:13 pm #

      Yet you think America triumphed in WW2, dontcha? We lost. This is the the result, same all over the White World. They just implemented the replacement policies gradually and quietly. National Socialism predicted this and fought against it. You fools destroyed your allies.

  41. 100th Avatar May 3, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

    You said it.
    For life.
    Why couldn’t they?

    You’re so dull, it’s painful.

    Like getting stabbed by a silicon spatula.

    • 100th Avatar May 3, 2019 at 10:51 pm #

      Which only proves, dummy, that beyond being criminally stupid, you’re hopelessly cynical.
      You’re saying they have a job for life, so why do what’s right?
      I’m saying they are entrusted with a job for life and should do what is right.



      • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 8:12 am #

        You’re the kind of guy I’d hear bloviating at a bar, going on and on like he knew what he was talking about. I’d walk over and engage the guy and after a few minutes I’d let out a big fart and watch him breathe in what came from my anus. The best part is the look on his face.

        • benr May 4, 2019 at 10:36 am #

          Engage is an odd word considering two minutes of your nonsense combined with your breath would drive away even the nastiest gutter bum.

          • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 10:57 am #

            Sounds like you know what you’re talking about.

        • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 5:16 pm #

          So seawolf, you’re saying that you win arguments by the power of your farts, not your logic. Guess that’s why you’re batting so low in this forum; we can’t smell you..

          • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 6:45 pm #

            You I would have shit on in the bar.

  42. seawolf77 May 3, 2019 at 8:54 pm #

    William Barr is really Rosanne Barr in disguise.Fat is as fat does.

    • benr May 3, 2019 at 9:30 pm #

      Better well fed to get through the long crisis when it hits than to be dishonest and dense ie thick in the skull.
      What new low can you plumb and not get bounced from this site again?
      Seems racism, sexism, bigotry, fat shaming, trolling, hating America are all ok but talking about the last resident in the white house or talking about extremities is a major no no.
      Naughty naughty ah ah ah.
      Please tell me what the magic word is!

      • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 9:39 am #

        benr is the magic word. It turns everything to dogshit.

        • benr May 4, 2019 at 10:29 am #

          Poor lil sea dork it appears I triggered you again.

          • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 10:51 am #

            Like the name says, benr.

  43. Pucker May 3, 2019 at 9:19 pm #

    They’re aggressively pushing Pete Buttigieg who has come out of nowhere like Obama.

    Pete Buttigieg is on the cover of Time magazine with his “Husband”, Chasten whose favorite book is “Harry Potter” pushing the gay lifestyle. Chasten on his Twitter site is advocating that Queer History be taught in the public schools. What’s with the Pastel Blue campaign colors? Weird….

    Pete Buttigieg is Naval Intelligence…. Pete speaks Dari (Afghanistan) and Farsi (Iran). Who learns Dari and Farsi, particularly if he is a Homosexual? I wonder what the Iranian Mullahs do to Homos? Smells Fishy…

    Maybe somebody in the Deep State is just taking-a-piss on the American public?

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  44. benr May 3, 2019 at 9:35 pm #

    Why come back only to insult the man?
    How is that constructive criticism?
    Tell me could you put up two reasoned posts a week?
    Please provide me a link to your blog so I can look at your gift of gab and wordsmithing.

  45. Pucker May 3, 2019 at 10:24 pm #

    The WWII Generation is the “Greatest Generation”. History will probably not be kind in its judgment of the Baby Boomer Generation? When I was a teenager, I was rather embarrassed by the popular cultural fetishes of keg parties, feminism, shopping malls, fast food, marital divorce, pee wee football, low rider and jacked up cars, Disco Dancing and mechanical bull riding. I basically just wanted to escape.


    • Pucker May 3, 2019 at 11:02 pm #

      I read in the book “American Terrorist” that Timothy McVeigh growing up in Upstate New York felt embarrassed and humiliated by his mom who in the 1970’s got a job as a crappy travel agent in a crappy travel agency and who felt “liberated” in fucking a bunch of guys working in her small town travel agency. McVeigh felt embarrassed and humiliated for his dad who just sucked on it.

    • 100th Avatar May 3, 2019 at 11:02 pm #

      Was it?

      A bunch of young simpletons sold into fighting a war in Europe and Asia.


      Yes, the greatest amount of poor Americans deceived.

    • Sam Stone May 3, 2019 at 11:11 pm #

      LOL! I hear ya brother. I think that mechanical bull craze came on when Pac Man video games starting showing up in bars. Always thought both were very strange. That Travolta movie was the really big push for the bull thing. Not one of Travolta’s best.

    • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 11:56 am #

      Greatest Generation my ass. Killed JFK and left us LBJ. For that alone, they should all be tarred and feathered. Faked the atomic bomb. Faked the moon landings. Gave us Korea and, I repeat AND Vietnam. One lousy war for gooks wasn’t enough. No, we had to have two. Paid didly into Social Security and collected it 30 years past when they were supposed to die, and now use every penny they can get their hands on to live every single minute they can, regardless of cost. They didn’t even win World War 2, the Russians did that. Japan. Please.

    • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 1:40 pm #

      And what did you want to escape to? Mayberry or something completely different altogether?

      • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

        We all grew up in Mayberry and then John Travolta movies.

  46. 100th Avatar May 3, 2019 at 10:58 pm #

    These are the lamentations of the defeated.
    When a man surrenders to no mortal construct.
    No abstraction in the synthetic societal realm.
    He who answers only to

    • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

      Or is it simply a surrender to nihilism? After all, if there is no shared moral construct or societal synthesis then each individual can have their own truth. And what a source of conflict. A war of all against all and a return to the brief life of sheer brutality.

  47. Pucker May 4, 2019 at 12:38 am #

    4 May 1982: The French-made Exocet missile slammed into the HMS Sheffield igniting the ship’s aluminum inner skeleton horribly burning its crew. The Royal Navy immediately replaced all aluminum in its ships with traditional iron.


    HMS Sheffield was a Type 42 guided missile destroyer laid down by Vickers Shipbuilding and Engineering at Barrow-in-Furness on 15 January 1970. She was launched by Queen Elizabeth II on 10 June 1971[1] and commissioned on 16 February 1975. She was the second Royal Navy ship to be named after the city of Sheffield in Yorkshire. The ship was part of the Task Force 317 sent to the Falkland Islands during the Falklands War. She was struck by an Exocet air-launched anti-ship missile from a Super Etendard aircraft belonging to the Argentine Navy on 4 May 1982 and foundered on 10 May 1982.

    • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 9:50 am #

      And that was almost 40 years ago.

      The missiles out there now are probably a lot more lethal, lethal enough to pose a real threat to an aircraft carrier, for example.

      They don’t cost that much and are almost impossible to defend against. Could be that massive aircraft carriers — like battleships in 1941 — are obsolete now.


      • ozone May 4, 2019 at 10:42 am #

        Regarding that “floating bullseye” stuff, our Honorable Friend, Lindsey Graham tweets in a perfect WTF? moment:

        ” Cuba, Russia send troops to prop Maduro up in Venezuela…….while we talk/sanction.

        Where is our aircraft carrier?”
        — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) May 3, 2019

        So, my question would be: Is this just showy, spluttering bluster and rhetorical red meat, or is this fucker that dumb/wilfully ignorant about what could happen with that kind of direct provocation?

        • benr May 4, 2019 at 11:13 am #

          The rand corporation put out a white paper around a decade ago on how the US needs to get in a fight with someone that can actually fight back to save the economy.
          I looked for it but was not able to find the link but I suspect the chickenhawks on the right and left are now looking for another fight to rouse the masses and get them to forget the latest round of political kabuki theater gone wrong.

        • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 12:40 pm #

          One wonders what kind of weapons systems the Chinese and the Russians have installed in Venezuela. A few years back when Ukraine and Russia were fighting and a Russian battery shot down that Dutch airliner, one theory is that it was a bunch of young soldiers with a new weapon they were eager to try out, kind of like when you buy a new rifle and cant wait to get to the range and shoot it.


      • Tate May 5, 2019 at 6:09 pm #

        China develops unique heat-resistant material for hypersonic aircraft


  48. seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 9:45 am #

    Next week William “The Fat Man” Barr is going to have his fat ass in the slammer. Let’s hope it gets slammed. Big fluffy white ass in prison. There’s a recipe for pleasure. “Pleasure in Prison,” starring the attorney general of the United States for not complying with the constitution he swore an oath to uphold. The congress shall have oversight over the executive branch to ensure we don’t get a tyrant, even an orange haired one from Queens.

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    • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 9:52 am #

      You’re hatred runs deep. Where’s it come from?

      • beantownbill. May 4, 2019 at 10:29 am #

        Marlin, when someone criticizes someone else, a response is merited if you disagree. But if someone is off-the-wall neurotic, like the above poster, why bother? Seems to me the best course of action is to ignore the post, otherwise you are feeding the poster’s sickness – although that sometimes is hard to do.

        • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 10:34 am #

          Good advice, Bill.

        • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 10:56 am #

          Holier than thou. I wonder where that comes from? Oh wait I know. The orange haired man from Queens.

        • 100th Avatar May 4, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

          Neurotic is a misdiagnosis.
          BPD at a minimum, Cluster A or HPD at the worst.

          But “crazy” nevertheless.

          • beantownbill. May 4, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

            I know that, but I was trying to be generous.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

        It’s existential. He’s not Us, but rather a Mestizo who wants America for his people, not ours.

        • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 5:30 pm #

          I think he’s just plain drunk or on some drugs.

      • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 12:35 pm #

        YOUR not you are/ you’ re.

    • benr May 4, 2019 at 10:32 am #

      All of your predictions come out wrong they are as faulty as your belief system and Eric Holder tried the same thing and guess what?
      Nothing happened to him and now he is busy ruining California with your style of stupid governance.
      The real criminals in government all call themselves Democrats, Socialists or flat our Communist and everyone of them are the scum of the earth.

      • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 10:53 am #

        And you Republicans are there to make things right. How’s that working out comrades?

        • benr May 4, 2019 at 11:10 am #

          Not so well actually but when you use the word comrades just remember your are speaking to your ilk with the hammer and sickle flags.
          That false narrative has zero wings.
          Tell me something and I am being serious for once if you want Socialism or communism so bad why not move to Cuba or Venezuela I’m sure you have some skill to offer them.

          Why do people like you clamor for the poison that is those two flavors of nonsense even with all the proof that it is even worse than capitalism in every statistic you can measure?

          • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 11:32 am #

            Actually, it has 200 wings, all colorful and richly feathered. You just choose to believe in talking points from a soon to be gone attorney general. That is your prerogative. There are plenty of examples of socialism working and you know it. You just pick the dogshit ones because benr turns everything to dogshit.

          • benr May 4, 2019 at 11:38 am #

            You failed to answer the question be honest if Socialism is your goal why not move to the country of your choice and stop being an angry douche?

          • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

            Because he likes to be an angry douche, Ben.

          • 100th Avatar May 4, 2019 at 10:49 pm #

            @farmer joe: that gave me a good laugh.

    • rackslope May 4, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

      Hmmmm, you haven’t been right yet.

    • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

      I see your vacation didn’t help when it comes to your prevailing delusions. You believe our government hasn’t been tyranical for a long time? Quit being a partisan hack.

  49. volodya May 4, 2019 at 10:20 am #

    Tusconspur, that’s it, you said it about smokescreens and the media. Smokescreens are what we’ve been getting for three years and especially since Trump was inaugurated and even more so since the Mueller investigation started.

    It was a foregone conclusion, based on what people in the media had been broadcasting, that Trump colluded with Russians, that Trump was Putin’s man and all would be laid bare. This was the mother of all smoke-screens.

    Once again, in the aftermath, it’ll be the media that blows thick fog-banks of misdirection and anonymously-sourced misinformation, with deep-thinkers, pundits, former officials, PBS, David Brooks at his most judicious and reasonable, Judy Woodruff sweating sheens of outrage, Rachel Maddow at her most self-assured, both Judy and Rachel interviewing well-spoken and convincing authorities to make the case, and all will be fore-square behind the – LOL – “perpetraitors” as you so aptly put it (did you make that up?).

    The thing is this, will there be a media that can blow the smoke away? It’s not clear to me that they will be.

    As to a zealous prosecution, you’re right that it would increase America’s standing, but I think that the prospect of a zealous prosecution or ANY prosecution is just wishful thinking. And you and I both know why; there’s no greater priority than removing Trump from the White House, hobble him if you can’t. Break knee-caps if you have to, ruin people’s lives (like Mike Flynn’s), just get it done. And the miscreants trying to do all this will get a get-out-of-jail pass

    But we know the real agenda here. Trump and his supporters represent a threat to a carefully built construct of law and inter-national treaties and understandings that safeguard the money and well-being of a self-appointed few. Trump’s offense was to give voice to the interests of not only American Deplorables but also French Yellow Vests and Brexiters and other Europeans of that ilk.

    It may be unbelievable to Judy and Rachel and Brennan and Pelosi and AOC and the campus intellectual avant-garde, but workers have got legitimate interests.

    That it should come as a surprise that these grubby, uneducated people would defend those interests doesn’t say much about the intellectual acuity of either ruling oligarchs nor their perfumed, preening, highly self-regarding clerisy.

    • beantownbill. May 4, 2019 at 10:37 am #

      “Grubby, uneducated (uneducated ought be defined, as Ivy League grads seem really stupid, now) people are always ignored – until they take matters into their own hands. Then they aren’t ignored anymore.

      • volodya May 4, 2019 at 11:06 am #

        “uneducated” is a flexible term of insult that can be fine-tuned to fit the target.

        Start with someone without a college degree. This person is uneducated. Are you someone that has only got vocational training? You’re uneducated. Are you someone that has only got a high-school diploma? Doubly so. No high school diploma? Do you live in fly-over country? Did you vote for Trump?

        Are you someone that fails to abide by current day campus pieties? Do you have awkward questions, for example, in sciences that have been proclaimed throughout the land as “settled”, questions that awkwardly enough seem to have no answers as yet, or for which no consensus exists? You’re uneducated. More than that, you’re stupid by nature, you don’t even have the raw genetic endowment, nor the neurological capability.

        There’s more examples but “uneducated” is particularly the slur for someone whose personal and economic interests don’t square with those of the ruling intelligentsia. That’s how I see it at any rate.

        • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 11:59 am #

          “There’s more examples but “uneducated” is particularly the slur for someone whose personal and economic interests don’t square with those of the ruling intelligentsia. “

          When you say ‘ruling intelligentsia’, do you exclude people like the Eton-educated Jacob Rees-Mogg and his now politically aspiring sibling Annunziata Rees-Mogg, along with the Eton-educated Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson?

          Enquiring minds want to know. I certainly know that, with their respective ancestral piles, their economic interests don’t square with those of anybody I’d like to see protected. I don’t say ‘mine’ because I don’t have any economic interests beyond the economy not collapsing altogether so that I starve. And if we all starve together, fair enough. But Jacob and the Rees-Moglettes, sister Annunziata, and Alexander Boris de P. most certainly won’t starve along with us.

          • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

            Hey GA nobody here knows who those people are. Clue us in.


          • volodya May 4, 2019 at 12:29 pm #

            You would do well to look at what’s right under your nose. Facile bullsitting doesn’t serve you.

            Or, here’s a thought, maybe it does, maybe that’s what we’ve been seeing all this time, someone, for reasons known best to themselves, maybe like the unlamented and now banned Asoka, serving the interests of the employer.

            Asoka, just in case you don’t know, but in fact you probably do, was in the employ of the US government, (ask K-dog how he dug him out) Is that how it is with you? Or is it the UK government? Or some other?

            Or maybe you’re not in the employ of anybody. Maybe you’re just a gosh-darned honest commenter that just seemingly has the honestly held opinions that square with what we loosely call neo-liberalism. In any case, curious minds want to know.

            See, everything Asoka advocated for, when he wasn’t posting distractionary commentary, was to the advantage of the monied elite. How is it with you? We’re just asking. We won’t hold it against you, after all, if the working stiff is allowed to defend his own interests, then surely the same goes for the upper-crust and their defenders in government, whatever government that may be. I mean, there are legitimate interests even for the richest of society.

            It may sound unbelievable that Uncle Sam would see fit to devote resources to disrupting JHK’s comment board, but that’s how it was. How is it with you? We’ve seen it before and so it won’t surprise anyone here.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

            “Asoka, just in case you don’t know, but in fact you probably do, was in the employ of the US government, (ask K-dog how he dug him out) Is that how it is with you? Or is it the UK government? Or some other?”


            You did that before, volodya. It’s unworthy of you.

            I invite you to my humble home, volodya. We can swap emails through our host, since I believe that’s been done before. I’m not afraid of meeting anyone on here.

            You, on the other hand, are trying to tell me that 48% of the UK electorate is on the side of the elites. Even when it was only lies on the side of a bus that meant it was ‘only’ 48%. And you can’t see that that doesn’t make any sense. But I won’t have a diatribe about you being some sort of stooge because I wouldn’t lower myself to your level.

            You don’t believe in free speech at all. It’s pure hypocrisy.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

            And I told you the last time I wrote about Brexit that I don’t want a people’s vote as many do now. I want the hardest Brexit known to man and I’d like it tomorrow.

            But I’m allowed to say what I think about the effect it’s going to have, even though you don’t believe I should be able to, without being accused of being in someone else’s pay.

            Both ignoble and pathetic.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 2:26 pm #


            “Hey GA nobody here knows who those people are. Clue us in.”

            If you don’t know, brh, that’s fine. I don’t think you should make assumptions about everyone else on the board.

            They’re the highest-profile Brexit leaders.

            Let’s start with Boris.

            Johnson. Brexit leader. Owner or at least heavy pusher of the lie on the side of the bus (that there would be an extra £350m a day to spend on the NHS if we left the EU.
            Fact: the NHS costs 9.7% of GDP.
            Projections: ALL projections, even government ones, allow for a significant lowering of GDP. In the event of a no-deal Brexit, this could be as much as 10%. Do the sums. They don’t suggest funds for the NHS.

            Boris was sacked twice for lying. Once in government, once by his newspaper employers.

            Boris also wrote two Brexit articles at the same time for the Telegraph at the time of the vote. Then he chose the side that was more likely to get Boris to be PM. He didn’t expect they would win. He expected to be the maverick that would get to be PM on the back of a failed vote.

            Oh, and he shags everything that moves, preferably half his age. His wife has finally dumped him. But he’s a ‘lovable rascal’ to people of a certain kind and his opting for the Brexit side got them a whole lot of extra votes.

            He gets more for his Telegraph column than for his MP’s or, previously, his government minister’s salary), which he referred to as peanuts or words to that effect.

            He gets paid £50-80,000 a pop for speeches to bankers.

            He’s the kind of Brexit man of the people that volodya thinks will save the UK worker from globalism. Bless.

            Now, Jacob Rees-Mogg

            This is him.


            Eton College, Trinity College, Oxford. Again, the kind of ‘deplorable’ that volodya thinks is on the side of the working man.

            Also investment banker and pursuer of a low regulation working environment that benefits bankers.

            Arch-Brexiter. Leader of the arch-Brexit ERG group.

            Volodya takes an interest in people’s nannies and gardeners too. I know nothing about his gardener
            (I don’t even know if his latest £5m pad in Westminster even has a garden, but I suppose it does.). But I know that his children have the same nanny that he had.

            He doesn’t like nanny states, though, just nannies. Even for women who don’t need to work, like his missus.

            This is the country pile that belonged to his wife’s family:


            Nice, isn’t it? Again volodya thinks Brexiters like this are the working man’s saviour. You couldn’t make it up.

            Or rather you could. And they did.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 2:27 pm #

            Apologies for the unintended bold.

          • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 4:18 pm #

            LORD Rees Mogg is some expert on economics or Int economics.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 6:01 pm #

            The Lord William Rees-Mogg (he was a Baron) was Jacob’s and Annunziata’s daddy.

            Daddy was, among other things, editor of The TImes, Chairman of the Arts Council and Vice Chairman of the BBC’s Board of Governors.

            A real yellow vest, I”m sure, just like Jacob and Annunziata.

          • Q. Shtik May 4, 2019 at 6:22 pm #

            the country pile – Greenie


            When I first saw these words I had no idea…

            An image popped into my head from my last major bike trip – the one where I rode to the bottom of Virginia and attended a NASCAR race at Martinsville Speedway. An incident happened on the return trip northward. I was on the Blue Ridge Parkway negotiating the curves and undulations over hill and dale in this dazzling countryside when I felt the onset of a monstrous and awful BM that just would not be denied. I frantically turned into one of those ‘overlooks’ and fortunately there was only one car there. I drove to the far end away from this other tourist, stopped, put down the kickstand, fished out a partial roll of tissue from a handy compartment where I had placed it for just such an emergency. My hands were shaking. Oh please God…………

            I scampered down a slope full of brambles, sticker bushes and rotting logs toward a wooded area that might lend some privacy. Being a cool day that threatened rain I was over dressed and I knew it was going to be a close call. Some how, behind the first available tree, I unzipped and unbuttoned and unhooked the various layers of bike gear with trembling hands, went into a half-squat position (oh my poor arthritic knees) and let loose with an explosive dump driven by the laxative properties of two breakfast cups of coffee. The half roll of tissue was barely enough to clean myself up. An unusually foul stench floated up from the Pile, the one I will henceforth think of as The Country Pile.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 6:31 pm #

            “Facile bullsitting doesn’t serve you.”

            And here was I considering changing my pseudonym to Green Witch and now you want me to be Sitting Bull.

            I have enough to do with the grandson, though, thanks. I’ll leave the bull sitting to the more adventurous.

            “Maybe you’re just a gosh-darned honest commenter that just seemingly has the honestly held opinions that square with what we loosely call neo-liberalism. “

            You guys aren’t very astute, are you? First I’m a social darwinist; then I’m a neo-liberal. Other days I’m a commie. Very confusing.

            You won’t remember when the anti-EU brigade didn’t like the EU because it was too ‘socialist’, i.e. too fond of the kind of protections for working people that the neo-liberals didn’t like. like a maximum working week and decent paid holidays. The labels you all use are hilarious. But then I forget that I’m talking to people who think not wanting to see your fellow citizens bankrupted because they get cancer is evidence of rabid communism.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 6:41 pm #

            Crikey, Q, you do have some er…picturesque experiences!

          • K-Dog May 5, 2019 at 1:14 am #

            GA in the employ of Uncle Sam yes, absolutely. But he was not the only one and one of them foolishly had a website I was able to probe and I found a diary where he describes a bar-b-q as ASOKA’s washing DC condo.

            Apparently ASOKA gives a real good bar-b-q. He was however described as being ‘one crazy motherfucker.

            This troll was commenting at Dimitry Orlov’s place. He had a link to a personal page that did not look like much. It was wordPress like but with a very nice theme. The diary was not publicly listed but I played a few tricks with his url and got a directory listing for his site. IThe fur on the back of my neck was standing up about this guy. That is where I got onto his private page. I did a search term for ASOKA and 250 or so pages in there he was as the saying goes. bigger than shit. The avatar for the troll was a pic of a space pet from the movie ‘The Fifth Element.

            I also learned that the operation is international; Five Eyes to be exact. I went through a lot of grief to learn what I know. This still pisses me off. What ‘they’ dropped into the Urban Dictionary.

            An asshole, mainly of the canine variety. Often seen committing random acts of fuckery. Acts hood, but is really a pussy. Scared of vacuums, Swiffers, and other small household appliances.
            That asshole K-dog ate the crunchy bits off of my Chic-Fil-A biscuit! What an asshole!

            Yeah, scared of vacuums, Swiffers, and other small household appliances because some of them were belonging to Uncle Sam’s private Internet of Things at the time and doing things to me!

            In the future please capitalize the D.


          • K-Dog May 5, 2019 at 1:15 am #

            Washington DC Condo

          • benr May 5, 2019 at 8:30 am #


            There is a difference between being a paid government worker frittering away time on this or any site while doing their job say in IT and someone employed to refute/plant lies disinformation or plant meme de jour like operation sock puppet.
            I’m not even sure that disinformation campaign survived the replacement of the Obama regime.
            Some people just like to troll and be jerks and do it for free.

            I stand corrected I just look up the history of DI.


            Alex Jones was right again.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 11:39 am #


            My apologies for the careless transcription of your name. Didn’t realise I’d done it.

            I wasn’t doubting the Asoka ‘person’ – I’ve read before that ‘he’ was on here. I even think I saw the name many years ago when I dropped in to read from time to time but didn’t comment, but I didn’t have a handle on all the characters back then so it would have meant nothing to me anyway.

            Your sleuthing skills are admirable. You’re more than welcome to check out my location/origins or however it works. However, I’ll be ditching the desktop before too long and limiting myself to my laptop, so that doesn’t mean there are two of me working from the same place!

          • K-Dog May 5, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

            I’ll only get upset about the ‘d‘ not being capitalized when I am being insulted as I was here . The government psy-op factotum who planted the definition; whoever that may be.

            I hope he/she gets fleas.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 1:26 pm #


            I insulted you? I didn’t even address you. I was responding to volodya for suggesting I was a paid troll. I said nothing about Asoka – it just happened to be in the bit volodya cited.

          • K-Dog May 5, 2019 at 3:35 pm #

            benr – The people you are talking about don’t eavesdrop on your phone convos and then post stuff they heard here to freak you out.

            And GA,I know you did not insult me, You are confused, so chill.

        • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 4:30 pm #

          You do have a way with words.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 6:02 pm #

            Why thank you, Malthuss 🙂

    • benr May 4, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      Some of us angry deplorables have the acumen to see through the brainwashing now called higher education right to the soulless weasels attempting to pull a fast one yet again. For reference AOC is so dense she knows nothing about the degree she claims to have.
      Nothing about real life or even how to speak like a rational human.
      I just wonder who is pulling the strings on her empty little head and funding her end run against common sense.

      • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 10:55 am #

        Wonder all day and all night, on the commode and while tinkling, while in your car and while walking on the sidewalk. She thinks nothing of you. Ever.

        • benr May 4, 2019 at 11:06 am #

          Hurray for small miracles believe me when I tell you if I never heard her name or heard her ridiculous talking points it would be a far better world.
          That simpleton is a one trick pony not near the equal of our imperious leader who drives you into a froth and a funk.

          • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 4:31 pm #

            She is the Republicans best friend, for better or worse.

        • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 4:21 pm #

          I listened this a.m.
          She really is a fool or an idiot or both.


          in her own words,


      • Tate May 5, 2019 at 6:59 pm #

        Who control AOC?

        Meet AOC’s string-puller:


        Her chief of staff is Saikat Chakrabarti, a well-funded radical left wing activist who, with other veterans of the 2016 Sanders campaign, including “Young Turks” host Cenk Uygur … established a web of campaign organizations and LLC’s, including Justice Democrats and Brand New Congress.

        It’s well-known that she actually auditioned for the part of Congresswoman, like any actor would:


        That’s why when she goes off-script, she sounds like the idiot she plainly is.

        If all this sounds like she’s good for the pharisees, she is.

    • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 1:17 pm #

      But at some point soon you are going to have to get yourself squared with the fact that DJT has stepped away from his most important campaign promises. You seriously believe a true nationalist and border hawk would be idle while over 100,000 illegals pour in every month? Do you really think a true believer in small business and Main Street would allow tech monopolies to control the first amendment? DJT might as well be Jeb at this point. Inaction is action whether willfull or not.

  50. FincaInTheMountains May 4, 2019 at 10:26 am #

    From the Ukrainian press:

    Giuliani more than once met with “the carrier of compromising material” Yuriy Lutsenko in New York, where they discussed both the machinations of Biden Jr.’s and his company Burisma in Ukraine, and the corruption of the future US presidential candidate Joe Biden.

    The Ukrainian prosecutor general later told his colleagues that during one of the meetings, Mr. Giuliani enthusiastically called Mr. Trump to inform him of his findings.

    Obviously, in order to continue in politics, Lutsenko spilled so much that Biden better not to go on the electoral finish line – Lutsenko’s talkativeness and his willingness to turn in his former owners, long ago became the talk of the town.

    Also, Trump’s lawyer assured that he had intervened because the Democrats had colluded with the Ukrainians to initiate an investigation by the US special prosecutor Mueller the case of Paul Manafort. So instead of “Russia Gate”, when Trump’s victory was attempted to be tied to the Russian influence, a Ukrainian Gate would soon break out, where the US President himself will be the accuser.

    Apparently, the prosecutor Lutsenko strongly helped the American justice, fearing for his own safety.


    • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

      Is the sky orange in your world?

  51. volodya May 4, 2019 at 10:47 am #

    We await the God haunted Lieutenant to return from Fallujah, much as the Muslims await the Mahdi. – Janos

    It could entirely be that a mentally and physically scarred soldier comes back, realizing that he’s been fighting for a great big Lie, for a country that works against the interests of people like him, that chews guys up and spits them out, that like in Vietnam, it was an exercise in bull-shit, or self-deceiving group-think. Remember Iraqi WMDs? Or like Smedley Butler said, it’s all a racket. And then said soldier decides he has got to do something.

    It’s not like it hasn’t happened before, a coterie of veterans feeling betrayed, sensing that all the blood and muck and misery was for nothing, all because of a gang of mendacious, self-dealing incompetents at the top. And we all know what happened next. The problem is that we don’t learn from history. It’s different this time. And yeah, it’s different, but it’s not THAT different.

    • benr May 4, 2019 at 7:01 pm #

      I hate to break this to you but the old trope about no WMD in Iraq is wrong. he other one was about yellow cake Uranium and I assure you 500 tons of it was pulled out and sent to Canada.
      NONE MEANS NONE AS in zero did not exist in any amount.
      More was found than admitted to and more was burned than they want to admit.
      Ask yourself why the Bush administration lied about no WMD when they could have easily just said we found some and destroyed what we found as well as massive amounts of conventional arm stock piles.

  52. volodya May 4, 2019 at 11:45 am #

    To Soft Star Light,

    “People that speak English eat better than people that don’t.”

    That was what I wrote. Not to say you can’t make a living of sorts if you don’t speak English, but if you DO speak English, it’s to your enormous advantage. Your economic opportunities, your job prospects will be greatly magnified.

    As for the NY Times, I know they’re influential, but as for myself, I wipe my ass with it.

    There’s a push to create a balkanized country, that’s no secret, you just have to look at public policy, listen to politicians, listen to academics, and opinion leaders. The agenda is divide and rule, create a permanent underclass of marginalized non-English speakers and non-citizens, the better to exploit them. This is the Koch Bros wet-dream and that of folk that live in gated communities who need nannies and house-keepers and gardeners who they can pay peanuts, who won’t buck for more money, who they can push around and lord over.

    But there’s a hazard in this and we find an example of it in history in what was a province of the Roman Empire. Right from the start of Rome’s dominion over Britain there existed a group of Teutons living among the predominant Celts. Nothing much happened with them for four centuries while the Legions kept order. When the Legions left, the various Celtic tribes went at it tooth and nail against one another, ignoring the influx of Teutons from across the water.

    And so, for the next two hundred years, that originally existing core of Teutons grew by way of immigration of Angles, Saxons, Kents and Jutes. But the Celts were too busy fighting one another to do anything about it. And so, county by county, the Celts lost Britain. It was a year-by-year process such that even in Shakespeare’s time the farmers outside of Stratford still spoke Welsh. The last Cornish speaker according to what I read died in the 1700s.

    And so, over time, the Germanic tribes took over. This is the lesson of history, the elites that ruled Britain got displaced and that’s the lesson that American elites are ignoring.

    I know it’s fashionable to scorn and look down on those humble campesinos that can barely read and write in their own language. Yet, their not so distant ancestors built spectacular cities and invented a writing script, something that the self-admiring Master Race never did for itself and who never came close to creating monuments and cities on the scale of those little brown folk.

    There exists a huge hazard in under-estimating the capacities of foreign people, especially those with proven historical track-records, or over-estimating your own superiority. This is what American elites are doing now. They see themselves on top of the heap forever. All right, they are sadly mistaken but their demise wouldn’t bother me a bit if they’re going to be that dumb. Given the damage they’ve done who needs ’em?

    • FincaInTheMountains May 4, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

      Celts lost Britain

      But St.Patrick won over Anglo-Saxons by Christianizing them.

      This contradiction was originally “imprinted” into English culture in connection with the legend of King Arthur, who was the Christian king of the Celts, who fought with the Anglo-Saxons pagans.

      And the most important part of English culture is that the Anglo-Saxons, becoming Christians, began to associate themselves with their Celtic enemies.

      And this fundamental feature of English culture only intensified after the invasion of William the Conqueror.

    • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

      There is nothing and I mean nothing that gives a Republican more pleasure than looking down on people. To them, it’s better than sex. Trump rallies are actually communal looking down on others. Like one big nose turn. Think of it as a giant long bony finger pointing at ugliness. Cheers. Applause. Then the man with the orange-colored face from Queens whips them into a frenzy by telling them they’re all white. Then they spew a communal orgasm of Cheetos from their mouths like the volcanos you made in grade school. Then they go home and tell each other they can’t wait for the next “It’s Good to be White Rally.” Then they put on “Not to Touch the Earth” so they can hear Jim Mossison scream “Soon! Soon! Soon! I am the Lizard King. I can do anything.”

      • rackslope May 4, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

        We’re looking down on YOU. The election of Trump was a complete repudiation of you and your kind. We do NOT believe a totalitarian socialist hell will result in a diverse egalitarian utopia. Go pound sand. KYS

        • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 4:32 pm #

          a new acronym for me to search.

      • benr May 4, 2019 at 7:02 pm #

        Are you typing this while looking in the mirror because you are projecting the absolute worst of why people loath leftists.

        • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 7:16 pm #

          I am the orange king. I can do anything.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

      Your people are backing them just as you backed and weaponized the Negroes against Us.

      • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 9:17 pm #

        against US.

    • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

      V, I have never been a supporter of the American Elite. And I have never underesimated the Browns that you speak so highly of. Not at all for one minute. They are successfully colonizing the US with the aid, comfort and support of the Elite and the moralizers who believe helping the foreigner is one thousand percent more righteous than lifting a finger for their own neighbors. And you fail to mention one thing about the White middle and working classes whose fortunes are doomed by such policies and treasons and was the purpose of my response to you. I already understand how we got here. The path forward is what we should talk about. Are you embracing resignation to replacement? You might as well be one of those you rail against incessantly if that is the case.

      • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

        I went to a talk by a school superintendent.
        He warned of ‘fascism’ –he meant Whitey.
        He is from Africa.

        Our School czar, college pres and LA unified czar are all–you guess it–Black.
        The police chief was a black gal.

      • volodya May 4, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

        Are you embracing resignation to replacement? – SSL

        Absolutely not. The opposite. Build the wall, build in machine gun towers. If the influx of people wasn’t semi-literate and impoverished farmers, let’s say it was teachers and lawyers, that wall would be two miles high by now.

        And you fail to mention one thing about the White middle and working classes whose fortunes are doomed by such policies and treasons and was the purpose of my response to you. – SSL

        I’ve been howling about it for years. Maybe you missed my posts in this regard. No matter, none of it is scripture, none is written in stone. At least not that I know of.

        See, in the eyes of the upper-crust, ordinary people – especially and particularly WHITE people – do not have legitimate and valid interests, and if they try to stick up for themselves they’re smeared as low-down racists and cretins. In short, ordinary folk, ESPECIALLY WHITES, aren’t allowed to speak up. They’re supposed to embrace their own ruin. To be fair, it’s not just whites suffering, blacks too and others. Growing up I saw a wide variety of people but it looked to me that nobody was remotely as screwed as Blacks. And just as they were getting a leg up in the 1970s, the oligarchs started offshoring and closing plants where they worked with guys like my own relatives. Blacks never got off the launch pad.

        The big difference of course is that Blacks, unlike Whites, are seen as having interests that they are allowed to defend. Not that elites give a shit, they don’t, they just give lip service, if that.

        And if a country refuses to police its borders, it has no meaning as a country. It’s not as if it MIGHT be over-run, it WILL be.

        The goofs running the place think they’re immune to disruption that incursions entail. They’re not. If history teaches us anything, they’ll be overthrown as sure as we sit here.

        Fly-over America has been ruined by two things, the offshoring of industry to China and Mexico and the onshoring of people, preferably illegals, to keep wage costs down. This is what I’ve been railing against for ages on this blog and others. I’ve been called a lot of names along the way, not that I give a damn, and had comments deleted too.

        I’ve also been railing against the notion that if we think brown people down south are inferior intellectually or any other way, we’re in for a great big shock. I don’t understand it, maybe it’s because elites don’t read history or don’t mix with people not like themselves, but there’s a lot of them in the US that apparently look down on amerindians. Big, big mistake.

        • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 5:33 pm #

          Yes, all big big mistakes and mistakes that we simply can’t afford to ever make again when we regain power. Civic Nationalism has admirable qualities but just doesn’t get to the heart of the matter. A true American Nationalism would recognize the European racial and cultural identity represented from the very founding of the country. There is no Real America without that identity. Yes flyover America has been destroyed by offshoring of production and the importing of millions upon millions of strangers. But the disease started when we gave up on the reality that America was founded as a White country for and by Whites. And so here we are. In a sinking multicultural globalist ship.

    • elysianfield May 4, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

      “As for the NY Times, I know they’re influential, but as for myself, I wipe my ass with it”

      I have long thought of designing and building a machine to…turn newsprint into viable toilet paper. A series of rollers would crush and separate the fiber, perforations would be rolled into the product and produce a relatively soft, absorbent “bathroom tissue”. It would probably be crank operated. What has kept me from building the device is a suggested target retail price of under $100 dollars.

      Will it transfer ink in use? Who’s gonna check?

      • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

        Newsprint is recyclable; we send tons of it out every week. Some of it was going to China but we understand China doesn’t want as much of it anymore so the price we get for it has gone down. It wouldn’t surprise me if a percentage of newsprint is already being made into TP.


      • volodya May 4, 2019 at 1:11 pm #

        Transfering ink in use. Hmm, that’s a problem all right, but as to who’s gonna check? Beats me.

        You know, the old folks used to use newsprint as toilet paper. Not a crazy idea you’ve got, recycling waste paper for bog-wipe.

        • stelmosfire May 4, 2019 at 3:02 pm #

          Well if the ink did rub off on your ass you could always go get it bleached. I guess it is a “thing” recently.

        • elysianfield May 4, 2019 at 7:32 pm #

          Men (Real Men) can get along with most anything…including sandpaper if you are careful. Women, however, do not have a sense of humor about “bathroom tissue”…any lack thereof for any reason and they become…animated.

          Consider if toilet paper becomes difficult to obtain, or inordinately expensive.

          I remember a friend, a then detective on our local police department, that, while deer hunting, took a dump, fell back into it, and used federal reserve notes to clean himself up. I thought it hilarious, even apocryphal, until I did the same thing myself, several years later…thank God I had a fistful of ones….

          • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 8:36 pm #

            I don’t know E.

            If what you say is accurate its gonna be a problem if a major war breaks out, and ladies in the Army infantry and Marines have to dig in and live alongside men in trenches like on the western front in WW1, where ‘bathroom’ facilities will tend to be rather crude to say the least.

            Some say that kind of warfare is over but I can still a envision US troops having to go to ground in the face of invading Chinese or NKorean hordes. I wonder if DoD has arranged special latrine facilities for lady troopers caught in that scenario?


          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

            I’d suggest dock leaves or a handful of grass, brh. Or cabbage or lettuce leaves if you happen to be caught short near Mr McGregor’s garden.

    • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

      “As for the NY Times, I know they’re influential, but as for myself, I wipe my ass with it.”

      That’s expensive toilet paper! I hope you get the ones the library throws away for free.

      • volodya May 4, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

        I meant it figuratively. What’s it cost nowadays? Six bucks or some such?

        • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 4:33 pm #

          Inverse to ad revenue is its price.

      • Sam Stone May 4, 2019 at 3:52 pm #

        That is funny. My wife and I get all the old newspapers from our local branch library.

        • Sam Stone May 4, 2019 at 3:53 pm #

          They go into our wood stove.

      • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 4:25 pm #

        Since we are in a closed system, there is no away.

  53. FincaInTheMountains May 4, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

    On the Question of the Growing popularity of Stalin, Ilovaisky’s anti-Normanism and Attempts to Cook a Soup from the History

    Since the new wave of reasoning about the Stalinist repressions began, I would also like to express myself on the topic.

    The question of the Stalinist repressions is a smoke screen, which task is to hide the really important issues arising from the catastrophic creation of the USSR and its no less, but rather even much more catastrophic death.

    Things reached the point that official history implies that the catastrophe that resulted in the appearance of the USSR was provoked by the Great October Socialist Revolution, and the real revolution that happened in February 1917 that destroyed the Russian Empire and put on the agenda the complete disappearance of the Russians not only as a political nation, but also as people, is nothing, and should not be discussed.

    And personally, I found out that everyone’s brains, including your humble servant, were so thoroughly washed in this place that no progress in this matter is foreseen in the near future, despite the striking similarities between 1917 and 1991.

    And you can also talk about the similarities between 1917 and 1991 with 1598 and 1612, but then we will inevitably stop at the pain points associated with the symbolism of the fire in Notre Dame de Paris and the brains will be switched off for everyone from the word completely, however as you see that I mentioned this in order to talk about the importance of symbolic actions in connection with the topic of the post.

    For example, let’s assume just for argument sake that Rurik was, let’s say, a Dane, or any other Scandinavian. And here Ilovaisky, who was educated with the money of the Russian aristocrat Palen, who was a little connected with the special service, created by Daniel Defoe, the author of Robinson Crusoe, and explained that no Slavs wrote any Scandinavians: “Our land is large and rich, but there is no order in it. Come and reign over us.”

    And the Russian Empire refused its creator.

    Symbolically of course.

    But after all, it worked and the state created by Rurik disappeared in February 1917!

    The election to the Russian throne instead of Rurikovich Prince Pozharsky of Mikhail Romanov, who had no relation to Rurik, the State endured, the honest error of Mikhail Lomonosov, the State of Rurik endured, but Ilovaisky’s “Search for the Beginning of Russia” it did not endure, by the way, in full accordance with the theory of symbolic actions of Daniel Defoe, described in his well-known books, but especially in the “A General History of the Pyrates”.

    Similarly, the USSR failed to survive the broadcast on Soviet television of Kuryokhin’s reflections on the topic “Lenin is a mushroom!”, and the United States recently received several blows below the belt due to the fact that Trump’s supporter Alex Jones is indeed a descendant of one of the pilgrims who arrived on Mayflower.

    I don’t want to talk about symbolic actions in relation to Saint-Denis Abbey, which, unlike Notre-Dame-de-Paris, is indeed a symbolic personification of France, since from this place there is a direct road to the elections of Netanyahu and the telephone conversation between Putin and Trump about the fate of Venezuela and the Monroe Doctrine as applied to the mother of Russian cities (Kiev).

    But since I am an optimist, I did not dedicate this post to Daniel Defoe, but to the rise in popularity of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin and the inevitable improvement of Russia’s position in the world after the inevitable, in my opinion, re-appearance on the map of the city of Stalingrad, which all over the world symbolizing the first defeat of you know who.

    It even occurred to me that Medvedev’s de-Stalinisers are secret Stalinists, and with their attempts to de-stalinize Russia, they finally deliberately provoke Stalin’s popularity and consequently strengthen the Orthodox world project he created on the Crimean peninsula, which never became New Khazaria despite the help of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee in 1941-43, but it became the place where US President Roosevelt outlined the contours of the world in which Stalin’s Orthodox world project should peacefully coexist and even cooperate with the Red and White World Projects of the West.

    And the issue that hides talk of Stalin’s repressions, causing the growth of Stalin’s popularity, is the question of the presence or absence of Stalin’s dictatorial powers.

    The fact of the matter is that the myth of Stalin’s dictatorial powers hides the most important question of responsibility for the “Stalinist” repressions of those who fully in accordance with the theory of Daniel Defoe, described in the discourse of Robinson Crusoe, suffering from fever on a desert island, deliberately flushed down the victory in the Great Patriotic War, throwing the crap all over the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Red Army and the Country that defeated Nazism in its incarnation of the Third Reich of Adolph Hitler.

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  54. SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

    Deeper into the dark we go indeed. And I’ve always preferred the night really anyway. It’s funny too you know. Sure, bad people use the cover of darkness to do their dirty work. But then so do superheros. You really think taking out trash is a clean job? So there isn’t any reason to be afraid of the dark. Good can come from bad. And yeah it is true, sometimes the line between the two seems blurry.

    • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 1:40 pm #

      I appreciate your optimism, SSL. I hope you are right.

    • volodya May 4, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

      Good can come from bad indeed. When the Great depression hit a lot of destructive economic and financial behaviors were stopped in their tracks, maybe not least because a lot of bankers started jumping off buildings. Mind you a lot of people that didn’t deserve it got wrecked as collateral damage.

      It was different ten years ago where a lot of folk that didn’t deserve it were ruined but a lot of people that DID deserve it ie on Wall Street, got their asses saved by the Fed and by Washington.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2019 at 2:08 pm #

      V is not Clan. Not Of the Body and is thus not to be trusted. Last week he happily theorized that in the end people who call themselves Americans may be Brown and be speaking Spanish. It just doesn’t matter to him because he doesn’t identify as one of us.

      Yes the Bad Times are upon Us. But if they cause Us to remember who We are, they will turn out to be good times in the end.


      • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

        Ah ok, I understand. And likewise the old style Civic Nationalism and Libertarianism must not be trusted. A homeland is for a people who are an extended family. I couldn’t agree more. I do believe more people are aware of the problem now compared to the past and the persecution and censorship are only waking more people up.

  55. jdhines May 4, 2019 at 1:18 pm #


    You profess to love the 1st Ammendment, but still engage in censorship? Go ahead, as you have turned into a sad, deplorable crank anyway and you are not worthy of my time. Continue with your well written but, obvious drivel consumed by half literate Trumptards. You deserve each other. You are a disgrace to former Democrats everywhere. To think you once wrote for Rolling Stone. They wouldn’t even let you work in the mail room now. Fuck off, sell-out.


    • volodya May 4, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

      bye-bye, you won’t be missed.

      • jdhines May 6, 2019 at 11:46 am #

        Hello V, I couldn’t stay away from your lengthy and insightful commentary! Jim writes some pretty good stuff too. I may not always agree with it, but it is ALWAYS well written (Jim’s stuff that is)!

    • Farmer Joe May 4, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

      If you hate him so much, then why are you here?

      • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

        T R O L L ing

      • jdhines May 6, 2019 at 11:44 am #

        I love the comments and Jim’s writing IS very good Farmer Joe!

    • Exscotticus May 4, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

      Actually, JHK hardly censors this forum at all. In it, you will find every view from the extreme Right to the extreme Left. I guarantee you that many of these posts would not survive the censors of either Fox or CNN.

      When JHK does censor, it has more to do with the kind of idiocy we see here. Name-calling and such. Trumptard-this and libtard-that. JHK has a particular dislike of cliched political ad hominem portmanteaus.

      It’s JHK’s forum and he doesn’t have many rules. If you can’t see fit to follow the few that exist, then that’s a measure of your lack of discipline and self-control.

      • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 6:04 pm #

        If you want to see real censoring, check out the story of how conservative actor James Woods has been banned from Twitter.


        “Outspoken conservative actor James Woods has been banned from Twitter for more than a week after he tweeted “If you try to kill the King, you best not miss’ #HangThemAll” – an apparent reference to the Mueller report.”

        Twiiter called it “targeted harassment”, without identifying which person was targeted.

        For all you left-wingers celebrating the silencing of conservatives and the violation of the 1st Amendment, let me quote two old cliches “what goes around, comes around” and “payback is a mofo.”

        • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 9:19 pm #

          Listen to you tube–Call for an Uprising channel..he just did something on JW.

      • elysianfield May 4, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

        “Actually, JHK hardly censors this forum at all.”

        True! And I am living proof….

        • K-Dog May 5, 2019 at 12:02 am #

          He clips my fur once a month to let me know he is boss if I need it or not. Sometimes I do piss him off.

          This week I thought ‘Frank Comment’ was kind of clever but after he popped that one I frankly gave some thought to how Frank could have felt. Assuming Frank exists that is.

    • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

      Looks like Asoka getting the boot for about the 10th time. Asoka is like the dude who gets kicked out of the local bar, goes home, puts on one of those groucho marx masks wth the glasses, nose and mustache, then tries to sneak back into the bar, only to be discovered and kicked out again.


      • stelmosfire May 4, 2019 at 3:17 pm #

        Well I guess it’s back to the mud hut for Assoka. What name will he return as?

        • malthuss May 4, 2019 at 4:27 pm #


          • K-Dog May 5, 2019 at 12:06 am #

            No OSHO was the derogatory term ‘they‘ gave me. I’m tall and at the time I had a full beard. OSHO was a way to refer to the target.

      • K-Dog May 5, 2019 at 12:06 am #

        But Brh, it pays the bills!

    • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

      I feel your pain man. But I wouldn’t take his deletions and threats to ban seriously. He does it to everybody. He has veered to the right, but a lot of people have lately. It’s sad to see my country turn so badly to the fascist right, the total disregard for the rule of law, the demagogue who sits in the White House plying our fears like a con man plies our desires. It’s better shooting each other with words right? Every now and then those Trumptards make sense or say something that makes me think. William “Small Hands” Barr is just the latest clown in this circus. Never did I think I would see a more obsequious performance from an attorney general, but what did you expect. His tail is tied to the elephant in front of him. He had to go there, and his criminality was comical. So just laugh. It’ll be over soon. The Apprentice will be gone.

      • Exscotticus May 4, 2019 at 2:24 pm #

        >>> He does it to everybody.

        Speak for yourself.

        Your fixation on Barr is comical. Former disgraced FBI Agent Peter Strzok lied to Congress for hours, claiming he was not biased when every shred of evidence showed overwhelming bias—so much so, that Strzok was booted off Mueller’s investigation and fired from the FBI.

        And I don’t recall any liberal hue and cry, or any posts by seawolf condeming Strzok and demanding that he by “arrested.”

        Double standards. Hypocrisy. A rule for thee but not for me. That’s the Democratic credo.

        • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 3:43 pm #

          Well at least no false equivalency. I was beginning to think your bot was broke.

          • Exscotticus May 4, 2019 at 7:32 pm #

            Hey that’s on you. Someone says 2 + 2 and you say TRUMP! You really ought to get your condition checked out. Increase the meds or something.

      • jdhines May 6, 2019 at 11:47 am #

        Thanks Seawolf77, Wise counsel as always!

    • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 5:55 pm #

      Wow have you ever heard of bowing out gracefully? The projection is literally mystifying. Please do get well JD.

      • jdhines May 6, 2019 at 11:49 am #

        SSL, Thanks so much for your concern for my well being – it is touching. I am a brother caucasian, after all. JDH

  56. FincaInTheMountains May 4, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

    On the Question of a Telephone Conversation Between Putin and Trump

    The main question in the analysis of this conversation, which lasted an unprecedented hour and a half, is whether the American intelligence services, which we now know illegally tapped Trump since June 2016, listened to this conversation.

    And in this regard, a second question arises:

    Why are the people who led the American intelligence services in June 2015 and allowed this wiretapping to be still free and what other capacities do they have now?

    Of course, I understand that the views of the whole world are now riveted on Venezuela, where the Caribbean crisis 2.0 can actually flare up at any moment, and on North Korea, which has again begun to test missiles.

    Meanwhile, the cessation of missile tests was the only result of the negotiations between Trump and Kim-chen-Yn that made allowed Trump a breakthrough in relations with an authoritarian leader who made his country one of the region’s most highly developed and powerful nations, perhaps thanks to the world-class Switzerland’s education that Maduro lacks.

    Meanwhile, I incorrectly formulated the question and in fact it sounds like this: did Putin and Trump think when negotiating that they were listened to by the American special services?

    For example, one thing is if they discussed this wiretapping (and it was impossible not to discuss it while talking about the Russian hoax = Muller investigation) thinking that they were being listened to, because then this conversation was a way to demoralize the common enemy, and if they discussed this question, thinking that it is impossible to listen to them, this conversation was about what now Trump can guarantee Putin, if not fulfillment of those agreements that were reached in Hamburg and in Buenos Aires, then their timely adjustment in connection with the actions of Pence and Rubio in Venezuela and Bolton in North Korea and also in connection with those statements that Trump had to make.

    In this sense, particular attention is drawn to reports that either Trump agreed with Putin’s position on Venezuela, or whether Putin agreed with Trump’s position on the Monroe Doctrine as applied to the mother of Russian cities(Kiev). the latter caused a slight panic in Warsaw, where they heard the mentioning of the Monroe Doctrine as a warning about the US readiness to give them to the mercy of Russia and Germany, who are known to be friends only when carving Poland between each other.

    But Trump’s agreement with Putin on Venezuela is an announcement of a US-Russian union all over the world, and not just in Venezuela, if Putin and Trump knew they were being listened to.

    But if they managed to establish a secure connection that their enemies cannot listen to, then Trump’s agreement with Putin means that if Pence and Rubio succeed in drawing the US into military action in Venezuela, then Trump will be able to prevent this conflict from escalating into a nuclear war with Russia, even if Venezuela turns out to be the second Vietnam or Korea for the USA.

    By the way, Korea for the United States was worse than Vietnam, because after Vietnam, the United States agreed to SALT, and after the defeat of American Air Force in Korea, Stalin began to prepare General Oleshev’s army for military operations in Alaska and the continental US, and this army was to arrive in Seattle and take Boeing factories two weeks after the start of these hostilities.

    And after that, the US lag in jet aircraft would become insurmountable, which is very similar to the situation with hypersonic weapons now.

    And recently one of Trump’s assistants talked about this in connection with the lessons of the Second World War – it looks like he knows about the true lessons of the Korean War!

  57. volodya May 4, 2019 at 2:12 pm #

    GA, pathetic? Hardly. Reality based. This is an anonymous blog. For example, everyone was wondering who this asoka was, given his strident advocacy for policy that happened to benefit the wealthiest. And K-Dog had the moxy to figure it out.

    Who you advocate for, whose interests you support makes inquiring minds even more inquiring, especially given the environment we live in, given the ruin visited on wide swathes of the formerly industrialized world, and given the economic and societal stakes. People that advocate for the status-quo, who support policies that benefit the upper crust, come in for special suspicion.

    Maybe you’re just an ordinary bloke/blokette calling like you see it. Assuming this is the case you would do well to focus less on the filament, more on the fabric, less on the tree and more on the forest. Whether you like it or not, there’s a great deal of stress in the formerly wealthy western world, and doing what the likes of Macron does and insulting people and making light of their situation helps not one bit. Things will change because the financial structures and stresses imposed by this preposterous globalist scheme, of which the EU is one, make it impossible to maintain.

    It WILL come down, and the EU with it, the question being one of controlled demolition versus chaotic collapse.

    The other question is whether one has got the wit to see what’s coming and prepare, if not materially and financially, then at least mentally and psychologically.

    But you seem as self satisfied as can be. Fine, do as you will.

    Am I angry? Yes, as all this was completely avoidable.

    • montsegur May 4, 2019 at 2:35 pm #

      It WILL come down, and the EU with it, the question being one of controlled demolition versus chaotic collapse.

      If it does end, I hope Europe gets a soft landing and a second chance to form, this time, a functional partnership vice what is now offered by the EU. I hope this, not for the sake of the European elites (who deserve a swift kick in the backside more than anything else), but for the sake of the ordinary Europeans.

      The problem is that the absurdly tone-deaf politics of the EU-backed politicians is provoking increasing resentment among the regular people. That anger will out at some point. The Yellow Vests in France are at this point only a mild expression of the popular resentment.


      • volodya May 4, 2019 at 3:33 pm #

        The Yellow Vests in France are at this point only a mild expression of the popular resentment.- Mont

        And that’s the fear, that if reforms aren’t undertaken, that this whole thing goes skyward, because as you say, at this point this is only a MILD expression of popular resentment.

        David Frum, one of the foremost bullshitters of our time (a former political speechwriter) said in a rare moment of reality-acknowledging lucidity that if the US government doesn’t control American borders, that Americans will hire people that will.

        And that goes for many other aspects of current day economic and financial arrangements that benefit an upper-crust but act to debilitate the economic food-chain that ordinary people depend on. Either changes are made or else.

        The “else” part of it this time around was the election of Trump, which is a relatively MILD thing given what’s been foisted this past 30-40 years. It could’ve been a lot worse. Now, of course, the reference was made to “fascists”.

        At first the propaganda was that it has to be the enlightened neo-liberal way of open borders to money and goods and services and people because the alternative was “nationalism” and “fascism”.

        Now, given the economic distress and obvious discontent that’s festering, the talk is that we have to make some changes or the alternative is still this dreaded bogeyman “nationalism” or, heaven forfend, “fascism”. Americans will supposedly get all stiff-armed and goose-steppy and start sieg heiling.

        Apparently the intelligentsia, in this case Atlantic magazine, isn’t too bright thinking we’d fall for this baloney. Because anyone with tenth grade history would know that fascism has had its day, its roots in 19th century and early 20th century European politics and economics and warfare. It’s an nasty thing to say, purely for the shock value.

        Americans are not turning fascist. But they can turn ugly and violent, which isn’t particular to fascism, and they may overturn current ways of governing, which wouldn’t be a surprise given the antics going on in Washington, and they may reconfigure national boundaries if they figure that the current federal regime isn’t serving their interests ie a movement for secession here and there.

        Like you I hope that European leaders get a sudden surge of realism, not for their own sake, but for the sake of ordinary folk like my relatives, a fair number of which are still over yonder. They are having hard time, decent paying work in short supply, the young having the worst time, the cant being that inflation is moribund, not that you’d know it from food prices and rent.

        As you say the gang supporting the idea of the EU is “absurdly tone deaf”, and while I have some hope, I don’t have much of that either given Europe’s past history. The steps towards the EU and the Euro made no sense to me, and I fear that the move away won’t be any more rational. But if they do nothing, as you say, the anger will out at some point.

        • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 4:50 pm #

          Good point about National Socialists in Germany. The movement died in May 1945. It consisted of a bunch of WW1 vets embittered by the loss of the 1914-1918 war. In fact they didn’t think they lost on the battlefield and wanted another go around, scapegoating the Jewish population of Europe in the process.

          Some people say the Nazis were merely a murderous 20th century sideshow, the real evil existed 500 miles to the east in the Soviet Union.


          • benr May 5, 2019 at 8:35 am #

            Or the Nazis and the Communists were both evil.
            So there you have it true evil is Socialism and Communism both do terrible things for the greater good much like modern day Democrats.

      • Sam Stone May 4, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

        The yellow vests are just the end game of socialism. They have simply run out of other people’s money. Almost everyone in France is a Socialist so all the yellow vests are socialists. Socialists come in many different varieties from Nationallist Socialists to Christian Socialists and everything in between. In the end they all want the same thing; to be riding in the cart while everyone else pulls it.

        Socialism never has worked and never will work. It all sounds so good doesn’tn it? We all work together and all get the same benefits. Humans aren’t set up that way and no amount of “we know how to do it right” wishful thinking will ever change that.

        • SoftStarLight May 4, 2019 at 6:09 pm #

          It seems as if there is quite a bit of socialism as it is. The problem lies within the greed and corruption that creates imbalances and sows discord. It’s an issue of the heart and of morality. If human nature is managed so that greed and corruption are kept at bay to the greatest extent possible a National Socialism will work. Theoretically Capitalism and Communism would also succeed in the same conditions, except those systems always end up centralizing power absolutely and thereby reward maximum greed and corruption.

          • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

            Conservatives don’t mind socialism when it benefits them and when they can take credit for it. Obamacare. Nope and nope. But to think they would take healthcare away from millions of America… well that’s just an odd shaped banana, isn’t it?

          • SoftStarLight May 5, 2019 at 11:37 am #

            Please embrace the full circle. In other words, liberals don’t mind the Chamber of Commerce when it benefits them either. America First trade and economic policies. Nope and nope. Both sides and all sides can be blamed for various things and should be. And the sides actually seem a bit contrived upon further examination but anyway. Most ordinary day to day people for example want good healthcare that doesn’t put people into bankruptcy proceedings. But you see at the base level it is greed and corruption that brings us to places like this in society. It’s a human nature problem and must be dealt with as such.

    • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

      So, volodya, what do you think about small businesses that rely on trade with the EU?

      Say, a bloke who didn’t go to Oxford but who started up a company making good-quality steel components for whatever. Let’s say he employs 40 people, all with moderate salaries, families and mortgages.

      That guy doesn’t want to lay off his workers in the even of Brexit. But you think he must be a government stooge or elite bum-kisser if he enthusiastically supports the single market and the customs union that serve his business?

      And you’d rather, in a world of shrinking resources, that he use up a whole lot more of them by trading with China or Korea instead?

      • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 6:09 pm #

        It’s easy to be right when you create the hypothetical situations.

        • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 8:09 pm #

          You know I think I could give you a Penthouse magazine from maybe 1978 or 1979 and some baby lotion or vaseline and you would just be at a loss at what to do. That’s a hypothetical situation.

          • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 8:46 pm #

            And a thought worthy of you, seawolf.

        • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

          “It’s easy to be right when you create the hypothetical situations.”

          You don’t think the country has lots of small business people who depend on the customs union and single market? Like every farmer who exports anything as well? I don’t think they’re feeling very hypothetical at the moment, although I guess the roof over their head might be looking a bit like that. They have no idea what’s going to happen. What are they supposed to say to their bank manager?

      • volodya May 5, 2019 at 3:30 pm #

        I think that once again you’re looking at the tree when the issue of whether to be in the EU was by necessity a question for the entire forest so as to let every tree decide for themselves.

        Of course, if idiocy as expressed as narrow self-interest birthed so many of the deleterious aspects of neo-liberalism, and bringing the western world to the pass it’s in now, it was the idiocy of politicians that spurred the Brexit vote, this time expressed as political self-interest, and not just idiocy but tone-deafness as Montsegur might say.

        This was mind-boggling and monumental tone-deafness by people who ought to have known what was under their noses but were either deliberately deaf or just negligent, Cameron and company figuring the results would buttress their own place in the political firmament, the same tone-deafness that led to Trump’s ascension and Hillary’s loss and the ensuing torrent of nonsense over Russian interference-collusion.

        It’s not difficult to discern broad interests, broad economic trends, or to interpret actions taken, or not taken, throughout the history of the post-war period. Just look at the big stuff. Did the plant close down in your home-town? Did the plants close down all up and down the coast, all up and down the river, all over the state, all over the country? Do you have multitudes of unemployed and homeless and drug addicted? Stuff like that. Or did the opposite happen? In the aftermath of a trade deal, did a multitude of good paying jobs spring up? Are people happy, housed, optimistic, working, with some discernible life-path that doesn’t involve constantly worrying about getting enough hours and getting evicted?

        Looking at particulars doesn’t illuminate any of this. What should such and such a person do in such and such a particular situation? Maybe you know the answer already so maybe you’d care to enlighten us. And, once you’ve done it, so what? The economy encompasses a multitude of interests, some conflicting, some not, some of which have got extra-ordinary influence in the halls of political power, some of which don’t. That’s ostensibly why votes are held on big issues, so that blokes can decide for themselves what’s in their best interest as opposed to their betters deciding for them, or their better’s managerial clerisy, or the clerisy’s smarty-pants mouthpieces.

        Neo-liberalism as a framework of ideas and its real-word offspring like the EU have been around for a while and, as Pat Buchanan would say, the returns are in. I don’t know what others do but when official stats and the accompanying narratives are contradicted by what I see with my own eyes and what I hear with my own ears, I’ll take the officials as liars or incompetents or both.

        Giving Brexit to a Remainer to sort out was tantamount to saying the hell with it, we didn’t intend for this result and we don’t intend to carry it through. The broad strokes aren’t hard to discern here either, Brexit politicians were empty grand-standers, jockeying for political position, never expecting a vote for Brexit, fully expecting a narrow but decisive Remain vote but also a campaign that would burnish credentials as fighters for the little guy, Remainers utterly deaf to anything but their own and their own class interests, never expecting Brits to have the gumption to do what they did. Both sides expected a win for the status-quo and both were stunned by the result. This was meant as an exercise in political posturing, nothing more. The British people took it otherwise apparently.

        I hate to say this but I think your behavior resembles in many ways that of the Asoka character, deliberately misconstruing arguments, countering arguments that were never made, forcing the commenter to waste time to clear up what they actually wrote and meant. Happened many times with Asoka, you’re doing it too, and my patience is at an end.

    • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 3:22 pm #

      And I’m not self-satisfied. I get nothing out of the status quo or out of Brexit. I’ve never had any ‘interests’ to preserve or protect, although I’d like to have seen the NHS survive for all of us.

      With people like you it’s the lack of nuance that’s weird. I can see the downsides of the EU but you steadfastly refuse to see the benefits.

      And you think Brexit-pushing investment bankers have a more valid right to their opinion than i have.

      • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 4:34 pm #

        GA have you ever thought about moving to Londonistan, catch that anti Brexit vibe? You’d be right at home, muzzy mayor, not too many Christians or white men, and the white men extant are most likely gay, including the pols. Its Euro zone utopia!


        • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

          Sorry, brh – out of 33 London boroughs, only five voted for Brexit. Some boroughs were 70% remain. So only five out of 33 giving out that Brexit vibe.


          Where do you guys get your information from?

          Furthermore, the UK isn’t in the Eurozone.

          Lots of new black Christian churches in London too – evangelicals.

          The white men are mostly likely gay? How old are you – five?

          • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 6:12 pm #

            You misunderstood him. He said London was anti-Brexit.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

            My misunderstanding, hm, as you say.

            I’m not sure what he means then, since my own city of Edinburgh voted 75% to remain. Not really worth going all that way for a slightly less strong Remain vibe. Added to which their hotels are a rip-off – definitely better up here, even though we don’t share their standard of living.

            There are estimates that a hard Brexit could cost Scots £2000/year each due to lowering wages, with a loss of up to 80,000 jobs. That may not sound like much to you but we’re a small country and wages are already not high compared to the south of England.

            Scotland overall voted 63% Remain. According to volodya, I guess that means we’re all neo-liberal lackeys. Two thirds of the population are The Elite!!

          • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 7:02 pm #

            People of all political agendas float “scare statistics”. They may be exaggerations or not, but to you they are absolutely real. They’ve already happened.

            Three years ago, the Anti-Brexit crowd warned that even the referendum results would sink Britain. Nothing much happened.

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 7:21 pm #

            Nothing much happened except that the pound sank you mean?

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

            And we’re having to build a third runway at Heathrow (and destroy a couple of villages with real people in them) so that we can sell more stuff on the other side of the world instead of selling to our neighbours. So that we can’t meet out emissions targets.

            Oops, I forgot AGW is a scare story too. Just as well, given that the Thames flood barrier won’t last forever – sometimes it’s better to be up in the cold north than on a flood plain in the wealthy south.

          • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 8:00 pm #

            The pound has gone up and down for many decades, but let’s blame Brexit.
            There have been floods in the south of England throughout history, but let’s blame Brexit.
            Need to build a new runway and piss off environmentalists – let’s blame Brexit.
            My hemorrhoids are acting up – it must be that damn Brexit..

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 8:42 pm #


            Now you’re being silly.

            The pound went down because of the Brexit vote. It hasn’t gone up again. Other times it’s gone up and down for other reasons. If we get a hard Brexit it will go down again. That will help manufacturers sell things – theoretically – but unfortunately it won’t help them buy the raw materials and components they need to make the things they want to sell.

            The Thames has indeed always flooded. It will flood more because flooding is increasing generally.These are things that may be observed.

            The third runway at Heathrow has been specifically planned to meet the new needs of Global Britain post-Brexit. There’s a lot of stuff that’s going to have to be hauled up into the air and sent halfway round the globe when it could have been sent nearer to home. You can ask Boris – he’s explained it all.

          • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 11:00 pm #

            Green Alba,

            Since you mentioned AGW in passing, I’m old enough to remember when we were warned of cataclysmic earth changes – famines, droughts, unendurable heat by 1980, then 1990, OK, definitely by 2000, for sure by 2010, Alright, by 2020 – and you can take that to the bank! The polar ice caps and Himalayan ice should be long gone by now. Didn’t they get the memo?

            You don’t remember any of these dated predictions of doom? You don’t remember the goal posts being moved for a cataclysm always on the horizon, but never quite here.

            Your crowd mocks the Christians who expect Jesus to return. Every date they have set (so far) is a disappointment as well. Global warming is more like a religion than you will ever realize.

            Like everyone else you believe what you read when it accords with what you want to believe – your pre-existing bias. Otherwise, you reject the information as the false narrative of ideologues with an agenda. You know the type – and they are always on the other side of the issue.

            I know what will happen. If one out of ten of those dire Brexit scary statistics comes halfway true, you will squawk like a chicken who just laid the perfect egg. You’ll forget the 9 dire predictions which did not come to pass.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 6:27 am #

            I’d need to see your sources, hm. I suspect they’re similar to the ones who predicted an ice age in the 70s. That is, the media, not the scientists.

            But you believe what you like, hm. I’m not going to lose sleep over it.

          • hmuller May 5, 2019 at 9:53 am #

            At the link below is a long article detailing a long list of failed climate predictions. Remember Al Gore saying the Arctic Ocean would be ice free by 2013? And yes, scientists are involved.

          • hmuller May 5, 2019 at 9:55 am #

            At the link below is a long article detailing a long list of failed climate predictions. Remember Al Gore saying the Arctic Ocean would be ice free by 2013? And yes, scientists are involved. Sorry, forgot to include the link. https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/18888-embarrassing-predictions-haunt-the-global-warming-industry

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 1:50 pm #


            Sometimes I don’t even know there’s a meme until you point it out to me 🙂 .


          • seawolf77 May 5, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

            Gore actually said some models had a 75% chance of ice-free arctic in 5-7 years, but most models say 20-30 years which would be 2028 at the earliest. If you quote someone try and get it right.

        • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 5:52 pm #

          But I’m getting the picture here. You don’t accept that people can have different views so if they do you shout either ‘gay!’ or ‘government troll!’.

          And you lot accuse other people of wanting to silence dissident views. Got it.

          • EvelynV May 4, 2019 at 6:27 pm #

            And don’t forget,
            Farmer Joe likes to glare at wimin in grocery stores until they freak out.

          • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

            Hey GA you take a lot of crap here about Brexit and other issues, but you give as good as you get.

            I love it.

          • hmuller May 4, 2019 at 7:44 pm #

            You know Evelyn, Schopenhauer said “With women everything is personal.” Of course, with that attitude old Schope never got any sugar he didn’t pay for; but the idea still rings true.

        • malthuss May 5, 2019 at 12:55 am #

          The Mayor of London said the mosques are to be protected in UK…….silent after the Christian churches were attacked

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 6:21 am #

            Which UK churches were attacked?

          • malthuss May 5, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

            UK churches –neither stated nor implied in my post.
            Since you mentioned it, can you tell me?

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

            Then I don’t understand why you’re bringing the Mayor of London into it at all, malthuss. I assumed you meant the UK because you thought it was something the Mayor of London should be pontificating on. He’s the Mayor of London, not the Mayor of the World.

          • malthuss May 5, 2019 at 4:00 pm #

            I get that you are the empress of deflection. Thanks.

    • K-Dog May 5, 2019 at 12:44 am #

      Moxy or naivete, take your pick. It was possible because JHK had a tracker on the site that I could get to at the time. It is why I wrote my own tracker and put it up on http://chasingthesquirrel.com/ last week. Now there is an Info Button that gives details at the bottom of an experimental page.

      And that is totally legit and relevant self promotion!

      Going to my website right now there are two visitors besides myself. An unknown visitor from France, so unknown I only can tell it is from France so Macron is a possibility. The other is from the ‘Departamento de San Salvador. is me currently.

      Departamento de San Salvador turns out to be a mountainous region in the middle of San Salvador.

      • K-Dog May 5, 2019 at 12:51 am #

        And the stuff I found out using the tracker (and from consequent and subsequent events)? Take a look at my ears. One of them used to fold forward but now they both stick up straight. The change is permanent.

        • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 6:25 am #

          When you see Edinburgh it’s me, unless there’s someone else, obvs. My paymasters at GCHQ said I could work from home in order to walk the greyhound (Tess, since you ask, but she has a posh racing name from her briefly prestigious past). Which is more than I’ve got (a prestigious past, I mean).

          • malthuss May 5, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

            Dog racing is sick. Was she a rescue?

  58. Pucker May 4, 2019 at 6:47 pm #

    I and The Wife recently did the deluxe “Mekong River Cruise” in Cambodia and “NAM”. There were several middle-aged overweight white passengers from the UK as well as a married middle aged white Queer couple on the cruise. Lots of Angst amongst the group. They were not “Happy Campers.” I asked them about Brexit. They seemed to be Anti-Brexit, but in a very ambivalent sort of way. When I pointed out that the EU is likely to break up and that it may not be prudent to hook your car to a train that’s likely to derail, they seemed to acknowledge that that makes sense, but they seemed to want to avoid any uncertainty and any short term pain even if the long term pain is much greater. Weird…. In any case, the Angst was very palpable. You don’t want to hang around people shrouded in angst as it’s mentally like living in a leper colony….

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    • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 7:00 pm #

      No point in angst, Pucker. Although I think it’s going to do a lot of damage (its own most famous aristo-Brexiteer says it will take the UK 50 years to recover) I personally want to embrace The Hard.

      Bring it on. I’ll be laughing my head off waiting to see what the Tories are going to blame our woes on when they don’t have the EU as a punch bag for every ill known to man.

      Wait till a trade deal with the US brings us McHealthcare through the back door – that’ll give them all something to argue about.

      • Pucker May 4, 2019 at 8:10 pm #

        The “Short Term Thinking” that the British passengers on the Mekong Cruise manifested re: Brexit is basically the mindset of “Fat People”, right? They were all overweight, and they were unrestrained, compulsive eaters at the breakfast and lunch buffet. Americans tend to be fat as well…. Fat = Short Term Thinking? You avoid the short term pain of exercise and self denial, albeit the long term consequences of obesity are devastating….

        • GreenAlba May 4, 2019 at 8:54 pm #

          The strongest proponent of a hard Brexit is Mr Rees-Mogg, who says it will take the UK 50 years to recover. I would respectfully suggest, given what else we know on this forum, that that means it will never recover. So what do you call short term?

          Why is Brexit the mindset of fat people? Or ‘Fat People’?

          I’m not in the same income bracket as people who go on Mekong cruises, but I’m only guessing that a fair number of them would tend to be overweight, your good selves obviously being an exception.

          Maybe I’m being hasty – I think of cruise ships as 24-hour buffets with a few land breaks.

          • Pucker May 4, 2019 at 9:53 pm #

            And free drinks….

            And in Cambodia the cruise ship docks at least once a day so that the mostly overweight white passengers can visit a temple, or an orphanage of Cambodian kids, or a Khmer Rouge mass grave.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 3:57 am #

            I’m not sure it’s not a bit creepy, that mass grave visiting thing. Maybe it’s a case of ‘too soon’ and you’d have to be the generation that doesn’t actually remember it being on the news all the time. Same with Auschwitz, mind you, which is before my time but not by that much. Not sure I could see it as a tourist destination, no matter how sombre people look when they’re being shown around. There’s something ghoulish about wanting to see it. Maybe… not really for me to say.

            I found the catacombs in Palermo bad enough and those people weren’t even murdered.

            A rather unpleasant person at my work, who collected Nazi memorabilia, told me I probably wouldn’t like Auschwitz (like it??) because there were Japanese tourists grinning madly taking pictures of each other (I suppose it would be selfies now) standing in front of ovens. It’s a sick world, so yes, I guess I’d give it a miss.

            My daughter who’s in Sg has been to Cambodia and Vietnam and was persuaded to go through some Vietcong tunnel that’s been turned into a tourist bucket list item. Claustrophobia would prevent me from doing that, even if I could face it aesthetically. I suppose it wouldn’t be an issue for the large folks on your cruise!

          • benr May 5, 2019 at 8:47 am #

            I visited many of the sites in Mexico where human sacrifice was carried out and seeing the blood staining the stone work even to this day is sobering and brings perspective.
            At times for no reason at all the hair on the back of your neck would stand up at some of these sites.

          • hmuller May 5, 2019 at 10:14 am #

            I once visited an exposed mass Indian burial ground at Dixon Mounds, Illinois; (since closed to the public). I had to leave because I felt on the edge of passing out. Is there something hovering over such places which some people tune into?

          • Farmer Joe May 5, 2019 at 10:53 am #

            I felt the same unease when I visited Pompeii.

          • Tate May 5, 2019 at 7:44 pm #

            Many have debunked the Holy Site of Auschwitz. All were branded ‘deniers’ like David Irving & sent to the woodshed. You don’t draw a cartoon of a lunatic Meccan pedophile & you don’t question cold war era Soviet propaganda from WWII.

    • seawolf77 May 4, 2019 at 7:11 pm #

      Interesting. I’m not sure what made you pick that, but interesting nonetheless.

    • Exscotticus May 4, 2019 at 8:56 pm #

      >>> but they seemed to want to avoid any uncertainty and any short term pain even if the long term pain is much greater

      Good observation and summation.

      I find that the desire to delay stress extends even to their language. Consider how Brits pronounce words such as aluminum, controversy, advertisement, etc.

      US: aLUminum.
      UK: aluMINium.

      US: CONtraversy.
      UK: conTRAversy.

      US: ADvertisement.
      UK: adVERtisement.

      Just pushing that stress out a bit for another time.

      Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way…

      • Q. Shtik May 5, 2019 at 12:12 am #

        Consider how Brits pronounce words such as aluminum, controversy, advertisement, etc. – Exsco


        For that third word I would have the US stress falling on the third syllable, not the first. Thus: adverTISEment

        • Exscotticus May 5, 2019 at 12:42 am #

          Not saying you’re wrong, but in my circles it’s ADvertisement. Like this. Just as we say ADvertise and not adverTISE.

          Anyway, why ruin a lovely analogy?

        • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 5:04 am #

          We don’t spell it ‘aluminum’ -we spell it aluminium, so it would obviously be pronounced differently. For the rest, yes…except that people pronounce controversy both ways.

          • Exscotticus May 5, 2019 at 9:57 am #

            Exactly. You had that superfluous letter just so you can delay the inevitable hardship…

      • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 6:20 am #

        Contraversy? I think you mean conTROVersy, Exscotticus. But just as many say CONtroversy.

    • Q. Shtik May 5, 2019 at 12:36 am #

      I and The Wife recently did the deluxe “Mekong River Cruise” – Pucker


      When I was in grammar school we were taught to place ourselves in second position as a courtesy or the humbling of oneself. Thus the above sentence would begin “The wife and I”; but then I noticed that John Steinbeck had the lead character in a novel (Cannery Row, I believe) many times beginning a sentence “I and the boys” no doubt to show that this character considered himself the leader of the pack.

      So, Puck, I take it it is you who wears the pants in your house?

      • GreenAlba May 5, 2019 at 5:17 am #

        “When I was in grammar school we were taught to place ourselves in second position as a courtesy…”

        I was taught that by my mother, who seemed to make it her calling in life to ensure we never thought too much of ourselves. She would recite that trite poem about the ripples in the water, just to make sure we knew how insignificant we were in the scheme of things.

        I was eventually reminded of that attitude in a lengthy diatribe