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     “You know, the left plays a tougher game. It’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. O.K.? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump. I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.”

As usual, his syntax is disastrous as well as his habit of placing himself at the center of every issue. But, also as usual with Mr. Trump, and because of his filter-less tongue, he lays out matters that should be extremely troubling to all Americans: that the land is full of men with tremendous potential for violence — and most particularly men with military and paramilitary training in killing and warfare, who have, so far, barely expressed in action their discontent with the tactics of their adversaries on the Left. This Pandora’s box of calamity includes the Left’s recent campaign to denigrate men as toxic and without value, especially white men wearing their scarlet letter “P” for privilege.

The Left had better sober up and join an intelligible good faith debate about US immigration policy and the enforcement of existing laws or this will lead to exactly what Brent Tarrant laid out and what Mr. Trump maladroitly hinted at. Instead, of course, we will more likely commence another bootless campaign over guns. Here are some plain facts about that. There are already enough firearms of every sort loose in this land to commence hot civil warfare and they will not be surrendered by their owners. The horses are out of the barn on that one, even if sales of military-style weapons are outlawed. Any effort to confiscate them from people already possessing them will only provoke more overt antagonism between the two poles of American politics — and would probably lead to exactly the sort of violence that sober observers discern on the horizon.

Our battered American common culture and its expression in political consensus ought to start with the foundation of the social contract: the agreement to not slaughter each other. That is, at least, the one principle that ought to stand on its own as self-evident, without any need for equivocation via “diversity” arguments. The Left is playing with fire on this with its dishonest, bad faith approach to debating the immigration question, and the gun debate will only provide a distraction from it.


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  1. malthuss March 18, 2019 at 10:23 am #

    I hope that everyone had a good St Patricks Day.

    The media is having a field day over the 2 actresses [+48 others] facing federal charges over ‘cheating.’ and the NZ killings.

    Meanwhile, as someone here noted,
    In the last three weeks over 130 Coptic Christians have been massacred in Nigeria and not one word of this has been reported by the LSM.
    Why the outrage for one religious groups deaths and not for the other groups death?

    • Neon Vincent March 18, 2019 at 10:33 am #

      Thank you, I had a quiet St. Patrick’s Day, which I celebrated by posting an entry about food, drink, and dance for St. Patrick’s Day in Detroit. I hope the rest of the readers here also had a happy St. Patrick’s Day.

      On a more serious note, thousands of U.S. students held a strike for the climate on Friday. It actually made me hopeful about the future.

      • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 10:34 am #

        Yes, I am aware of the ‘Climate Strike’–foolish young folks.

        • CancelMyCard March 18, 2019 at 11:24 am #

          Malthuss,

          Why do you consider them to be foolish?

          • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

            Because they believe the mainstream news.
            they believe in the democrats, the Dreamers, that diversity is our strength, etc.

            They are too young to have experienced a 1970, 90% white, normal USA.
            No multi cult, no multi lingual, no homeless [a few hobos and winos] etc.

            Then 1 man worked 40 hours to provide for a wife and 2-3 children, at a middle class life and the only debt was a mortgage, yes?

          • gonetohell March 21, 2019 at 10:37 am #

            Maybe someone should inform, or re-inform at least, J. Kunstler that the social contract of not slaughtering each other was broken about 150 years ago. That was When Republican Abe Lincoln decided to declare war on one half the nation, exterminating around five hundred thousand fellow Americans in the process. Of course he did it under the moral pretext of every man being equal, not his strong intention to teach individual states they belong to the union.
            Kunstler is and old white man who now presents one-sided arguments for your consideration. In other words, he’s Fox News.

        • fineline March 18, 2019 at 3:32 pm #

          You may be thinking of the 1950;s. By the time the 70; came along, that white world was already fading from the landscape.

          Why is it every time a story is reported, some ahole from somewhere finds a story that was not reported and then blames the MSM for not reporting that story. Who the hell would watch that much news anyway? If you choose from the multiple sources available, you could make that case every day.

          • libertysghost March 19, 2019 at 10:15 am #

            You confuse the point…and that is that the legacy media’s options for publishing such stories is practically infinite as they could even just re-post the stories from the wires or from other pubs. But they don’t.

            You don’t find that telling whatsoever? You don’t find the tendencies of what is published and what is not a hint at any sort of an agenda? You don’t think that the legacy/MSM could just as easily make a “crisis” out of any such mass killing they choose and get a sizable portion of the dolts to chant in unison for “action”? To offer them such excuses for their selective editorial choices is either wishful or naive.

      • njguy73 March 18, 2019 at 2:40 pm #

        Neon Vincent – you think any on those strikers will decide not to fly in a plane ever again? Or decide not to go to college an instead live on a permaculture site?

      • elysianfield March 18, 2019 at 5:21 pm #

        It actually made me hopeful about the future.

        Neon,
        I believe that you know better.

        Strike for the Climate? Why not strike for No More Wars. Putting a few tens of thousands of ignorant twits on the street will solve neither issue.

        • lbs March 18, 2019 at 5:32 pm #

          Don’t blame the kids, they are just being used as props by their idiot parents.

      • OccamsBeard March 19, 2019 at 11:43 am #

        I’m glad someone is hopeful – it gives me hope.

        TraffickingInDivinity.com

    • SpeedyBB March 18, 2019 at 10:43 am #

      I for one have been pointing this out tirelessly to whoever would listen to me. Don’t forget the churches being destroyed and Coptic Christians assaulted in Egypt as well.

      • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 10:48 am #

        Hint: it’s not about who get’s assaulted, it’s that someone gets assaulted. There’s a bigger game being played here.

        • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 11:42 am #

          I disagree, Scratch. I think the narrative that is being promoted by the msm is, “white men are evil, racist, oppressors who need to have their guns and power stripped from them.” The murder of Christians by black Africans doesn’t fit that narrative, and so doesn’t get coverage.

          Maybe I am just a paranoid conspiracy theorist. Time will tell.

          • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 11:54 am #

            That’s the American MSM, and it plays very well here indeed. But of course the world is much bigger than that and there are many other populations to be influenced out there too. It’s not that you’re “just” a “paranoid conspiracy theorist.” It’s that your conspiracy theory isn’t nearly comprehensive enough. Globalism is all about smashing the will of nation states at this particular point in time, so racial and ethnic vilification is location sensitive. It’s a very fluid strategy in that sense.

          • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 11:59 am #

            That’s fair.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

            Wow Scratch, despite our best efforts you still don’t get it. The assault on the dignity, nay the very existence of the White Man, is under assault everywhere he lives.

            This IS the Big Agenda or at least a fundamental part of it. The Global Elite intend to take down Western Civilization for starters. And unlike their dupes, they know that that can’t be separated from the people who created it – namely the White Race.

          • K-Dog March 18, 2019 at 1:15 pm #

            Maybe the acts of deranged nutball copycats should be seen for the pointless acts they are. Everyone is so busy trying to attach meaning and tying this New Zealand tragedy to American issues they inadvertently honor this criminal madness. Pointless madness that was the product of a sick mind following sick messages because that is what people do.

            Follow.

            I alluded to as much here.

          • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

            Of course. Western Civilization is where the money and power resides, for now. Others will get and are getting there’s too. It won’t stop with the “Great White Race.” Anything or anyone that gets in the way will eventually be taken down by the same method. It’s called The War of All Against All, and it’s a brilliant strategy.

            Believe me, I “get it” alright.

          • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 2:24 pm #

            “The war of all against all” — Old Scratch

            OS, nothing new here.

            Thomas Hobbes wrote of the war of All against all in his political tone ‘The Leviathan’ (1650s) after witnessing the English Civil War and the brutal 30 Years War in Central Europe.

            “Life is short, nasty and brutish”

            Brh

          • fineline March 18, 2019 at 3:36 pm #

            You obviously have not been watching MSM. Most likely you have been listening to those who tell you what the MSM is saying and what to think about it.

          • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 3:48 pm #

            BRH,

            True, the strategy’s been around for quite some time. The implementation’s been advanced by leaps and bounds lately, however. But either way, it never fails to ensnare each new generation it’s deployed on. Humans are “funny” that way.

      • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

        I have to admit, when I read about Ebba Akerlund’s murder in Sweden I was upset too: 11 year handicapped old Swedish girl walking to meet her mother after school deliberately run down by a muzzie in a stolen beer truck, her little body cut in half. And the Swedish govt hardly even acknowledged her death, like they could give a f-k less. Then when the police went to arrest this scumbag in the Muslim neighborhood in Stockholm where he lived they were driven out by organized armed resistance.

        Now I read Ebba’s grave is routinely vandalized by illegals from Africa in the Middle East.

        Hows that make you feel, CFNers?

        Brh

        • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

          Yes. And what we should be saying to the Muslims is “How do you like it? Fuck their hypocrisy: they attack Churches and the Mosques of the Shia all the time. Synagogues when they can’t get them too.

          Future Crusaders should carry her image with them into battle. A little girl Saint. This is how it’s done. This is how our deep psyches work. How do I know? Because that’s what worked before.

        • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

          we know. we are not green like alba.

        • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

          brh

          Do you care how her family feels?

          thedailybeast.com/new-zealand-shooting-who-was-ebba-akerlund-whose-death-mosque-shooter-used-as-pret…

          ‘Her father, Stefan Åkerlund, told the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet that he was mortified when he saw how the latest terrorist had used his daughter’s name. “I broke into a cold sweat as soon as I saw that he had rifles with my daughter’s name,” he said. “How in hell can we ever get to mourn in peace?” ‘

          ‘Since Ebba’s death, she has become a fixture on websites that traffic in hate speech. Her name is regularly invoked in the depths of the deep web, on sites like 8Chan and in white-supremacist anti-immigrant rants.’

          ‘Ebba’s mother, Jeanette Åkerlund, also spoke out. “It gives you chills,” she told Aftonbladet. “It is deeply tragic that Ebba’s name is abused in political propaganda.” ‘

          So, any chance of her family being left in peace and not having their daughter’s memory abused by alt-right propagandists?

          • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 6:21 pm #

            In death, he is more of a Father to her than her own biological Father – who is more interested in making PC capital for himself than getting revenge on those who slaughtered her.

          • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 7:44 pm #

            You are sick.

    • seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 11:35 am #

      Not the people in New Zealand.

      • Majella March 18, 2019 at 5:45 pm #

        Just for the record, the shooter in Christchurch was Australian, not a New Zealander – not that makes any difference.

        Here’s why he went to New Zealand to do this terrible thing…

        In the wake of the Port Arthur massacre on 1996, which was the last of a dozen similar mass shootings in the previous couple of years, the Australian Federal Government put an outright BAN on military-style semi-automatic & automatic weapons.

        It took the Parliament a mere 12 days after that massacre to enact the legislation.

        Over the next 18 months or so, there was an amnesty for people owning now-illegal weapons to surrender them (for which they were fully compensated financially). The whole cache was collected and publically smelted into a lump of metal & plastics.

        They also set up a comprehensive register of both gun owners & guns, so they know how many guns (at least legally) reside in Australia, where they are and who is responsible for them.

        New Zealand’s right-leaning government of the time, never having experienced such an event before, declined to join with Australia in that action. I’m betting they regret it now (if politicians ever allow themselves to feel emotions like regret).

        It was a fecking AR15 that this lunatic used last Friday – who’d have thunk it?

        So, he couldn’t have gotten away with it in Australia – couldn’t have got hold of such a weapon, and would have been confronted by armed police within minutes of starting his heinous rampage.

        The current NZ government has announced that there will be major changes to gun laws and it is expected to take only a couple of weeks to enact – the banning of semi-automatic military-style arms (fully automatic weapons are illegal outside the police & armed forces).

        Oh, and he stated plainly in his Twitter-published ‘manifesto’ that he loves & admires Trump – any surprise there?

    • Luhrenloup March 18, 2019 at 6:08 pm #

      I celebrated St. Paddy’s day by watching a couple of Irish guys, hot as a pistol, the both of them, kick ass, Conor Mcgregor giving a pep talk to Boston Bruin team and Mick Conlan at Madison Square Garden winning all ten rounds against his opponent.

    • Walter B March 18, 2019 at 9:48 pm #

      Christians always seem to have been one group that can be singled out and attacked without much of a backlash from anybody defending them, at least from what I have seen. There are many even here that choose to bash them at every turn without challenge. I am unaware of the term Christianophobe, how about you?

    • S M Tenneshaw March 19, 2019 at 2:20 pm #

      As you said, the MSM just isn’t covering the Nigerian slaughter. But reportage is available at The Christian Post: christianpost.com/news/120-people-killed-140-homes-destroyed-by-nigeria-fulani-since-february.html

      I was unfamiliar with this publication, but it does seem on the up and up.

  2. malthuss March 18, 2019 at 10:24 am #

    Jim,

    Infrastructure going,

    youtube.com/watch?v=MPaFZB_jjQI

  3. RB March 18, 2019 at 10:25 am #

    Oh, were those shootings real in NZ? I thought it was another John Wick movie starring another Hollywood lefties who loves money making violence. My mistake.

  4. OccamsBeard March 18, 2019 at 10:28 am #

    Immigration needs to be addressed – if it isn’t this kind of thing will be the result.

    TraffickingInDivinity.com

    • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 10:37 am #

      too intellectual for me, this TraffickingInDivinity.com

    • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 10:41 am #

      Looks interesting, thanks.

      • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 10:43 am #

        give us the 500 word version, if you care to.

        • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 10:46 am #

          Not this morning. Maybe later.

        • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 11:36 am #

          I pretty much lost interest after the first two articles. WAY too ethereal for me, but maybe the Mountain Finc would go in for this sort of thing. I did like the quotes, however:

          “Secular reason tends to objectify, thus overly narrowing its scope. A person of faith tends toward superstition, thus overly expanding their scope. Both may benefit from an awareness of the other’s flaws as a way of appreciating their own.” Cal Billings

          “The mythos of science creates the comforting image of a linear progression toward truth. This narrative is the functional equivalent of religion, with the proviso that it manifests a staggering motivational deficit in the moral realm.” Cal Billings

          “Academentia can be defined as the distorting influence on perception and intuition that results from sustained interaction with other academics.” Cal Billings

          • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

            t y

          • K-Dog March 18, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

            I found this written there.

            ““dogmatizes like an infallible pope”. I think I’ll use it in a sentence. Nice word. Woof.

            In maladroit dogmatizations across the land from the Orange Cheeto on down, writers and bloggers claimed the twisted helter skelter of the madman as their own.

            Determined to maintain narrow world views dogmatization replaced facts from sea to sea.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

            He needs to change his name to Billings Carl. And name his daughters “Mackenzie”. Their is no limit to the weirdness of the wealthy WASPS.

  5. shotho March 18, 2019 at 10:30 am #

    “. . . . . the foundation of the social contract . . . . ” Yes, indeed, that would be the place to start because, there, you’re talking about one of the bases of culture. But for that foundational aspect of our common culture to work, there must be the values and norms that are taught and believed by the populace and that is not happening. The populace has reached the point of not agreeing on much of anything except, what is my personal interest in the thing before me. The filters that would mitigate this selfishness are now missing; family, church, school, neighborhood, economy. In order for social contract to mean anything again, those institutions must be rebuilt and I don’t see that happening.

    • TPTB-USA March 18, 2019 at 11:23 am #

      “In order for social contract to mean anything again, those institutions must be rebuilt and I don’t see that happening.”

      I think something on the order of a Civil War in reverse ought to do the trick.

      Towards the end of the war, the polarization will moderate, and people will migrate back to rebuilding the institutions you list. But it won’t happen until the two sides are willing to accept something as ludicrous as this:
      christianityboard.com/threads/liberal-canadians-leftists-socialists.25635/

      • njguy73 March 18, 2019 at 3:00 pm #

        “I think something on the order of a Civil War in reverse ought to do the trick.”

        How many cities are you willing to see go down in flames over this?

        • TPTB-USA March 18, 2019 at 11:28 pm #

          I am just a pacifist observer, but what I am observing is a population that is becoming polarized to the extreme.

          My thoughts are that both extremes will need to suffer crushing hardship prior to any kind of amicable reconciliation, and generally speaking, the US population does not know what “tough” is, and from that perspective, events have barely started to bloom.

      • shotho March 18, 2019 at 5:21 pm #

        Of course, generalized war could create conditions for the kind of collapse that would require a renewal of social institutions, even a reset of cultural values and norms. But there is no guarantee that it would do so. Germany had to rebuild its social institutions after WW11, but its culture remained basically the same. Japan, on the other hand, essentially rebuilt its culture along Western lines and thrived under the process. We, in the West, are in the process of cultural change, but have no idea how it will result. There are some trending lines and, at this point, they don’t point toward stable capitalistic economies or democratic institutions.

        • TPTB-USA March 19, 2019 at 12:08 am #

          Stable capitalistic economies and democratic institutions are a product of a civilized society. So you have to take it one step at a time: family, neighbor, community, church, school, etc..

          As Ol’ Scratch points out several posts below, one side is not even willing to have a civil discussion about most issues with the other.

          I believe that “you cannot legislate morality”, that a civilized society is a product of individuals leading by example, but a polarized society needs to experience hardship in order to see the world from another’s perspective, and get back to the basics of treating all things with dignity and respect.

          I’d suggest that Japans success is predicated on wars that essentially re-set the game, and them adopting the basics of treating all living things with dignity and respect. Generally speaking, I see the Japanese as among the most respectful people on the planet.

  6. Hands4u March 18, 2019 at 10:32 am #

    Stock up and save on your guns before big brother tries to take them away! (snark!)
    The shooter wanting to “represent himself” says it all; what he now wants is a podium to justify his rage and offer “the facts”, so others may also “know” its good to kill.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

      His manifesto makes all kinds of sense if you love your Nation. You’re simply babbling the slogos you hear on TV.

  7. Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 10:35 am #

    Great post, Jim!

    As with the firearms themselves, the horses are already out of the barn with regard to the left’s sanctimonious view of history. I just came from a such a discussion with a co-worker of the liberal academic bent, and I can tell you that he honestly believes that people sympathetic to Trump are simply too stupid to even engage in conversation with. I’ve found his views to be typical in the rarefied intellectual air in which I am surrounded. I don’t see any of them moderating or reversing course on their views in that regard any time soon.

    As for our shooter, I’d be very surprised indeed if he wasn’t at least facilitated in some way by those who benefit from these kinds of things, but of course we’ll never know for sure. The fact that he’s so neatly “packaged” with a manifesto and posted videos of the event online is a definite red flag for me, as is his ability to travel the world looking for an optimal target. At the very least it’s an extremely fortuitous coincidence for those who benefit from inciting violence, and I’m not a strong believer in coincidence these days.

    • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 10:38 am #

      The fact that he’s so neatly “packaged” -the spin cycle. create, market, move on.

      • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 10:45 am #

        That’s true, but this guy is straight out of central casting. He’s the Sly Stallone prototype for bad behavior.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

          Anders Breivik is a handsome fellow, but more than a bit of a goof the way he presented himself in pictures. Nonetheless, he laid out in methodical Nordic detail how he planned it for years, slowly gathering materials and weapons and learning how to use them. Simply put: he was/is a very capable man, good at “material life” (making money) and of course possessed of strong convictions.

          I mean you don’t expect White Men to be less than Middle Easterners at these things, do you? Or not better than Africans who set their own balls on fire?

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:33 pm #

      >>> “… people sympathetic to Trump are simply too stupid to even engage in conversation with.”

      You have to admit, to follow a disturbed, derelict like Orange, does bring into question one’s intellectual worth. I mean, unless your avowed position is anarchy, confusion, division, hatred, etc. (then it makes perfect sense), but to support Trump AND hope for a prosperous, fair society, living in harmony is absurd. Ergo the difficulty of the Left in ascribing great intelligence to the run of the mill GGG supporter, who seems to be worse off the longer this stain remains in office.

      I don’t mean to quarrel Scratch, just calling ’em as I seem ’em. He just strikes me as a fairly average conman, with a good line of BS, who knows how to work a room of rubes, but I may be wrong.

      • Farmer Joe March 19, 2019 at 1:44 am #

        I bet the j in jdhines stands for janet

        • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 11:10 am #

          I could never live up to the famous Janet’s exploits. Please! But I do thank you for the compliment.

          • Farmer Joe March 19, 2019 at 11:28 am #

            Great! I’d love to hear a serious and reasonable response to your series of points further down the page.

      • benr March 20, 2019 at 10:18 am #

        And yet I bet you thought Obama was a great President.
        Meaning you have zero common sense and no amount of intelligence will help when common sense can’t be applied.
        See here is the problem the left think they are smart when the actual problem is not smart or even educated it’s brainwashed.
        Shame really brainwashed and most of the left appears to be mentally ill as well.
        Rather be dumb than brainwashed and mentally ill.

    • montsegur March 19, 2019 at 5:26 am #

      I’m not a strong believer in coincidence these days. — Scratch

      Absolutely. This guy was photographed in some camp in North Korea undergoing training, and he wasn’t incandescent-hot on the scope of Australia’s spy and national police forces? It smells, all right.

      Cheers

  8. Paulo March 18, 2019 at 10:39 am #

    It’s not about immigration, it’s about ignorance….

    The rest removed by Admin for idiocy.

    • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 11:46 am #

      Too bad. Would have loved to make fun of it.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:35 pm #

        You and Trump enjoy making fun of others don’t you? Kind of like bullies, no?

        • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 9:22 pm #

          The only bully on here is you, Mr. Name Caller.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:00 pm #

      In other words, you’re a cornucopian who doesn’t believe in limits to resources or that all creatures have territory and compete for resources. In other words, you’ve learned nothing from your environmentalism in terms of applying it to human life. In other words, your brain is segmented into blocks that don’t communicate with each other.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:33 pm #

        Whatever you say Janos…. It’s the Papists, right? OK, I get it.

        • benr March 20, 2019 at 10:19 am #

          Actually he summed you up perfectly.
          The elevator does appear to get stuck half way up.

  9. malthuss March 18, 2019 at 10:44 am #

    Three dead, many injured in Dutch tram shooting; Hunt for Turkish suspect…gokman tanis is being sought.

    • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 11:59 am #

      * Three dead, nine wounded in incident on tram in Utrecht

      • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

        130 Coptic Christians murdered in Nigeria in the past week or so.

        Read anything about it anywhere?

        Brh

        • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 4:21 pm #

          Well I for one am genuinely interested, brh, and condemn it if it’s true, obviously. I’ve tried to find it and all I can see is something about the anniversary of the murder of 21 Coptic Christians killed by Daesh in Egypt in 2014-15. Can you please provide a link?

          This article in CNN surely qualifies as MSM?

          edition.cnn.com/2018/11/04/world/coptic-christians-militants-killed/index.html

          “Egypt security kills 19 militants following attack on Coptic Christians”

          But I can’t find anything about Nigeria by searching under ‘Coptic Christians killed in Nigeria’. Which is odd, because we heard endlessly about the girls kidnapped by Boko Haram in all the MSM.

          • K-Dog March 18, 2019 at 10:52 pm #

            I hope you are not just figuring out ‘they’ just make shit up sometimes.

        • BornToKillPeace March 18, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

          If we are going to mention Coptic Christians, please allow me to direct the subject matter for a moment to something more pleasing than the topic of unfortunate slain.

          Still in the ring, doing the same darn thing, at 82. Recordings from 1967. If you have a spot for Satie or Debussy in your mind and heart, please..

          Pianist Emahoy Maryam Geubrou.
          youtube.com/watch?v=fBbrfTvz78w

      • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

        Backlash. Why didn’t the Media rave about it and warn us?

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:34 pm #

          Because nobody gives a shit about it, really that’s it!

  10. thenuttyneutron March 18, 2019 at 10:49 am #

    I have not watched video and have no intention of watching it. I did catch a glimpse of his rifle. This guy is evil and has really pissed me off. People like him are why governments want to restrict my gun rights. I value my gun rights and will not give in on them easily. Amend the US Constitution and I will abide by gun control laws. Until then, I believe any gun control laws are illegal. One good thing about Trump are his nominations to the SCOTUS.

    It looks like the mad man used an AR15 derivative with a weird stock that I am unfamiliar with and an EOTECH holographic reflex sight. That sight alone costs about $500. If you know how to use it, you can accurately fire many rounds in a short amount of time. It is mostly used for short ranges.

    The longer 20″ barrel used over the more popular 16″ barrel means he was able to maximize the muzzle velocity of the 5.56×45 loads. This is very bad because the bullets are more likely to yaw in the target causing massive damage. The damage is almost as bad as what a HP hunting load would do.

    As bad as this event was, it could be far worst. There are newer calibers that are as powerful as a hunting load for deer being used in the AR15. So far the only caliber used has been the varmint round ( .223 or 5.56×45). You think a varmint round is bad? Take a look at what a hunting load for deer can do. These hunting loads are designed to kill quickly and are many times more powerful than the 5.56×45.

    • Hands4u March 18, 2019 at 11:05 am #

      If ammending the constitution where easy, do you think they could have done already? There is litterally so much (sorry) blow back about this issue already that it may well be near impossible.

      • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 12:25 pm #

        H4U

        Lefty plans include eliminating the electoral college, removing Trumps name from ballots in individual states, and expanding the Supreme Court to 15 members, then packing the court.

        In addition, the 1st and 2nd amendments have to go. These are the plans, and it will take tampering with the constitution to get it done.

        All the above listed are seen as impediments to establishing utopia right here un the USA. So don’t think they won’t do it if they run the table in 2020.

        Brh

        • elysianfield March 18, 2019 at 5:33 pm #

          “Lefty plans include eliminating the electoral college, removing Trumps name from ballots in individual states, and expanding the Supreme Court to 15 members, then packing the court.

          In addition, the 1st and 2nd amendments have to go. These are the plans, and it will take tampering with the constitution to get it done.”

          BRH,
          I believe that they have made a terrible mistake…about 20 years too early, unless they really want civil insurrection….

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

        Under the present structure, you are correct… nearly impossible. It won’t be undone under the current structure. A new paradigm is needed, my man and they come along with amazing regularity if you study a bit of history. 2nd A will be a footnote before all is said and done, I tell you. You’ll see… well none of us alive now will see it actually, but you know what I mean.

    • Exscotticus March 18, 2019 at 11:46 am #

      >>> People like him are why governments want to restrict my gun rights

      People like him are how governments *justify* restrictions to gun rights. The “why” of it is the desire for a total monopoly on the use of violence and terror.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

        Exactly. He has it backwards.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:40 pm #

        They already hold a near-Monopoly on the means of violence. Pea shooters versus bazookas, sling shots versus tanks, bb guns versus Apache gunships, jet fighters, and G_d know what else, etc.

        You’ll beat them with your deer rifle, shotgun, .38 special and a handful of semi-auto assault rifles? Please stay off the opiates, they are clouding your judgement!

        • butter56 March 18, 2019 at 4:24 pm #

          All our boys with all their toys have not been able to defeat lightly armed, rural Muslims on foot in Afghanistan in 18 years

          • Exscotticus March 18, 2019 at 4:42 pm #

            Or the Viet Cong.

          • elysianfield March 18, 2019 at 5:34 pm #

            …or Baltimore.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 6:54 pm #

            We sure killed a bunch of them in Nam and Afghanistan (still killing there). Some folks don’t get the lesson very quickly. It took the South 4 long years before they said, Uncle. I guess it’ll be pretty much the same here until they got tired of dying.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 6:55 pm #

            Maybe not defeat, but we sure keep on the run.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

            keep them on the run…

          • benr March 20, 2019 at 10:23 am #

            Your average American GI or marine is not going to fire on the American public.
            They will need to bring in the UN for that.

    • Q. Shtik March 18, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

      It’s astonishing how many people on this board are so well informed about guns and ammo.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

        It frightens you, doesn’t it?

      • thenuttyneutron March 18, 2019 at 2:40 pm #

        It should not surprise you. Many people read this forum and agree partially with Jim K. We realize things are “not right” or sustainable.

        Firearms are a common tool used by enlightened people as a way to hedge the possible turmoil of the future. I think having a tool that allows 1 man to sucessfully defend the family against a mob home invasion is very valuable. This same tool can be used to kill animals for food.

        Part of me wonders what would happen if the police served an illegal no knock warrant search on someone like they did in Houston who had sn AR-15 with a Bushmaster 450 upper. The BM450 packs as much punch as a Government 45-75. It can shoot a 250 grain .452″ bullet at 2,200 fps. It is capable of killing a Bison almost instantly. It may not defeat all body armor but it will hit the target with so much force that it will likely break ribs and cause serious injury.

        Google how many different calibers the AR15 can be configured to shoot. You will be amazed.

      • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

        You would be too Q if you didnt piddle around in the AF and joined a real military organization.

        Brh

        • elysianfield March 18, 2019 at 5:37 pm #

          Q

          Yeah, what he said….

          But really, what scares me is someone who can explain recapture on my 1040…

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:41 pm #

        Indeed, amazing.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:43 pm #

          “It’s amazing what white trash knows.” That is not my quote, but from a well known white trash type. No disrespect meant.

          • thenuttyneutron March 18, 2019 at 4:53 pm #

            White trash? This is a nebulous description used on many people. If someone has only a HS diploma but can carry out skills such as hunting and harvesting an animal, does that make them white trash? What if they are an INTJ on the Briggs Meyers test? Thsee are the types that can solve problems dealing with complex issues in a massive interconnected system. Think about the master mechanics working on a modem engine.

            Derogatory names are applied to many people based on the inabilities of the name callers many times. I ran into this in college while earning a BS in engineering. My grades were not the best but I finished and used the education to obtain a highly technical “blue collar” job that most people would be unable to handle. I even obtained a federally issued license to operate a very powerful machine. I do recall that many of my class mates were one track mind thinkers that could never handle a fast and fluid problem requiring sudden shifts of attention or prioritization of tasks needed to be completed. They made good grades but would never be able to succeed in stressful situations where seconds count.

            When I hear “white trash”, I think “unconventional talent”.

          • elysianfield March 18, 2019 at 5:40 pm #

            Nutty,

            I, too, had a Federal license to operate very powerful machines.

            Machine guns.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

      That was his intention. He wants them to come after your guns and for you to react. He is the Chess Master and you are his pawn. Read the Manifesto. He’s on our side but knows we are too comfortable to fight back even as we are boiled slowly. Uncomfortable assessment? Sure. But is he wrong?

      Or do you think the 2nd Amendment is just for hunting? That’s what they would have you believe. And you don’t need all that for hunting….

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:36 pm #

      >>> “That sight alone costs about $500. If you know how to use it, you can accurately fire many rounds in a short amount of time. It is mostly used for short ranges.”

      Oh goody, just what we need more of: better accuracy for lunatics!

      • thenuttyneutron March 18, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

        I would say more precise. It will allow you to put rounds on target consistently in a human sized target at short to moderate ranges. If you want accuracy, you must get a scope with optical magnification. Scopes destroy you field of view and slow you down but allow you to be extremely accurate at long ranges.

        The EOTECH sight simply over lays a laser hologram on a glass window. There is no magnification. You shoot with both eyes open so you need to train to make the best use of it and get familiar with it. Put the hologram on the target and you will likely hit it. The main problem with these holographic reflex sights are eye issues like astigmatisms that blur the holigram. It is not as accurate as a scope. It simply allows a person to target quickly and quickly hit somewhere in the torso for “good enough”.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

          Thanks for the explanation Neutron. Who said you can’t learn stuff on CFN!

    • Jigplate March 18, 2019 at 6:52 pm #

      “Amend the US Constitution and I will abide by gun control laws.” You will be one of the few. Tens of millions of other gun owners will hold up a giant middle finger and say ” come and take it”

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 7:04 pm #

        That can be arranged. We can also pry that rifle from your cold dead (middle finger too) hands. You must really love guns to be willing to die for them. Too many GI Joe dolls or John Wayne movies. A gun doesn’t make you tough or a man and more times than not the gun kills the owner or someone they love. Look it up.

        • Jigplate March 18, 2019 at 8:01 pm #

          “That can be arranged”. By who? In NJ, a recent law that required owners of standard capacity magazines to destroy or surrender them resulted in not a single documented case of one being surrendered. In NY , the “safe act” required the registration of previously legally owned semi-automatic rifles, the compliance rate for that law is in the low single digits. The same is true for the registration scheme in CT. I don’t see any doors being kicked down. This is nothing more than jury nullification writ large.

        • Jigplate March 18, 2019 at 8:04 pm #

          “We can also pry that rifle from your cold dead (middle finger too) hands”. What’s this “we” shit? , Who exactly do you purport to represent?

          • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 11:25 am #

            The gubment of course. We The People. Granted, it won’t be happening anytime soon, but it will, in relatively short historical time. People are just not gonna want to live with this shit forever. Do you blame them? Too bad we won’t be alive to see it, eh?

            “Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually. In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons), and 33,636 deaths due to “injury by firearms” (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).”

            “On Wednesday, a gunman opened fire at a Florida high school, leaving 17 people dead and more than a dozen others injured.

            In November, a gunman went on a shooting spree at the Rancho Tehama reserve in Northern California, killing four people and injuring three children.

            A week before that, a man in Sutherland Springs, Texas, stormed a church with a semiautomatic rifle, killing 26 people and injuring 20.

            Note: White House refuses to release photo of Trump signing bill weakening gun laws for mentally ill. EVEN GGG is in on it! WOW!

            A month before that, a gunman in a room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas shot at concertgoers below, killing 59 people and injuring more than 500.”

          • KarlDehrmann March 20, 2019 at 6:53 am #

            JDHines,. While I agree the 2d amendment would be in trouble on a BAU (business as usual) timeline from increasingly urban and liberal voters, you seem to be forgetting the main premise of Mr. Kunstlers work. In a relatively short period of time the conventional oil fields are going to fall off the bumpy plateau. Once that happens no combination of fracking, tar sands, conservation, and unicorn farts is going to stop the oil supply from naturally contracting 2-7% per annum forever. That is going to crush global civilization and the Democratic process. The body count from the chaos that ensures is going to make recent gun deaths look utterly trivial by comparison. Even you are going to want a gun then.

  11. Kafkaesque March 18, 2019 at 10:58 am #

    Well-reasoned, JHK, as is often your wont, as well as well-written.

    “maladroit”………..

    I would offer two other worthy terms: sangfroid and frisson, both ‘immigrant’ terms, adopted to express where English sometimes trivializes: the former brings that wondrous quality of calm amidst external stresses, the latter, the shudder at the former’s absence.

    The great American filmmaker John Carpenter perhaps captured the essence of both limbic tools, in his ‘Starman’:
    “Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you?” as spoken by an (off-world) ‘alien’) to the earthman scientist.
    Imagine if our moral codes taught that as the incipient greeting to strangers vs. ‘Hi’, and other hollow utterances such as ‘paper or plastic’ or ‘can I help you?’ so commercially driven.

    Yep, J.C.’s message, still haunts us, the other JC having become unwitting/unintended savage symbol of the business end of a Roman ‘gun’.

    Only the Bard’s tongue in an Italian Duke’s mouth competes: ‘All are punish-ed!’ in that marvel of anti-tribalism, ‘Romeo & Juliet’, only today trivialized by some dumb commentator as the tired trope of teen death.

    That off worlder’s countervailing comment leaves the true frisson, after noting how many species exist in the universe, describing ours: “…intelligent, but savage….”

    Alas, Babylon…all a-bored, that Babylon Express.

    • beantownbill. March 18, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

      Intelligent but savage – a highly dangerous combination.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:13 pm #

      Yes, tribalism coalesced into the nascent Nationalism of the City State and from there (eventually!) into the Nation State (sometimes!). Of course the Globalists want to take it to the next level – and that simply isn’t viable. Their expansion is mechanical not organic, you see. The Clans could become Tribes could become City States could become Nation States because they were the same People with the same or similar culture. How you get from that to letting Somalis into Sweden is like comparing beautiful lovemaking with rape.

      Mechanical growth vs organic growth, the latter being the “force that drives the green fuse through the flower” as Dylan Thomas put it.

  12. KarlDehrmann March 18, 2019 at 11:05 am #

    Jim was spot on today. Man is tribal, and doesn’t mix well with “others”. It has only kinda sorta worked post-WWII in the USA because of the unbelievable prosperity. That is going away soon. This is our new normal.

    I reject violence as a viable alternative to political discourse in a civilized country. The sad thing is, viewed through a tribal lens, you can see the logic in the terrorism on both sides. The young Muslim sees Western countries bombing and destabilizing Arab lands to maintain access to Arab oil. That has been the Western modus operandi for 75+ years. If my neighbors wedding party got bombed, and my political process got derailed by foreigners, I would be joining ISIS and chopping off heads too. Which is why, when we do this to other people, it doesn’t make sense to then allow them to emigrate to our country. They are understandably aggrieved.

    Likewise, if I am a disaffected young White man, who has no say in government, but sees his economic opportunities disappearing, gets bombarded with messages that he is evil, and then sees foreign men raping “his” women and committing crimes in his country, well, violence against that “other” seems like a solution.

    The political left and emboldened minority groups are going to find that not all of the Western White men are skinny jean wearing metrosexuals. To date, most White men have had too much to lose (economically, culturally, etc.) to fight. As more and more slip out of the middle and working classes, tribalism and violence will increase. This is particularly disconcerting with regards to White men, because, unlike a lot of other groups, they don’t have as strong a cultural tradition to fall back on. When they look back for examples, they are going to default to the rhetoric of the Nazis and the KKK.

    The long emergency, in this country, is almost assuredly going to lead to tribalism and genocide along racial lines. The pragmatic approach to this would be to halt immigration, and push assimilation of the groups already here to the greatest extent possible. The more assimilated Americans are, the less likely they would be to revert to tribalism. Instead, we have been doing the opposite, purposely balkanizing the country with immigrants from all over the world. The end result is going to be horrific for all involved.

    • Hands4u March 18, 2019 at 11:10 am #

      Chaos, confusion can be very effective ways of controlling and subjugating large massesgroups of people.

    • cbeard March 18, 2019 at 11:50 am #

      Good comments. I agree, but due to the sheer number of immigrants, I think assimilation will be impossible. I see nothing in the future but more balkanization. All the different races, nationalities, and cultures will make America ungovernable in the traditional sense. I’m older and have some health issues, so I may or may not live to see it all come crashing down, but I think it is inevitable. Then again, things are deteriorating quite rapidly.

      • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 12:02 pm #

        we are there, and Obama did what he could to bring in as many IQ 70 non Whites as he could.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:39 pm #

          As if all those ridge runners and rednecks are topping the IQ charts. Great stock there.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

      Quite so, Bill, quite so. And White Men make incredible Soldiers, Warriors and Beserkers. Do you really want them to convert to Islam and do it from that point of view?

      We’re going to kick ass one way or another….

    • montsegur March 19, 2019 at 5:40 am #

      Karl, I would add to your description the inability of society’s “elite” to develop a softer economic landing for the many driven out of work by automation. Plenty of ‘disaffected white men’ there, as well as others of many ethnic groups.

      HRC blithely dismissed these people as ‘deplorables’ without devoting even a moment’s thought as to the role people like her played in the economic collapse that has shrunk the middle class and added handsomely to the ranks of poverty.

      And yes, the USA has far too many people who appear to believe that functioning with reality in mind is purely optional. The wishful thinking has gone on too long, and reality wants its pound of flesh.

      Cheers

    • elysianfield March 19, 2019 at 11:04 am #

      “Likewise, if I am a disaffected young White man,”

      Karl,
      Much wisdom for someone who could self describe as “young”.

      • KarlDehrmann March 20, 2019 at 7:21 am #

        Alas, it was rhetorical. I myself am 39. “Newly middle aged” is how I describe it to my wife. I’ve made peace with the fact that my long emergency role isn’t going to be glamorous or long lived. I don’t expect to live long enough to see what comes after. My life’s work is preparing my children as best I can so that they have the best possible chance of carrying our family through the bottleneck. That is my purpose.

  13. Sam Stone March 18, 2019 at 11:09 am #

    You are missing the point Mr. Kunstler. The leaders on the left know exactly what they are doing. They want armed confrontation. They want a revolution and think they’ll accomplish their goals through civil war leading to revolution. If you think they are going to stop or calm down the rhetoric you along with most everyone is missing the point. Look for massive escalation going into 2020. They feel their time has come and they are going for it.

    • Hands4u March 18, 2019 at 11:12 am #

      What makes you thinks its only the left?

    • seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 11:34 am #

      WTF are you talking about? Nobody wants Civil War you gourd head. And even if somebody did, the country would break up like the USSR without firing a shot.

      • TiredOfTheTreadmill March 18, 2019 at 3:28 pm #

        Agreed. The only people screaming for war are the usual right wing idiots who can’t get laid so they make up for it with their guns and big talk and the usual lefty young guys with screaming hormones who don’t know how to get laid yet themselves. Everyone else is ready for these two groups to have at it via George Carlin’s Slugfest idea where they all kill each other off then we put the winner on a podium and shoot him in the head. Then the adults can get on to dealing with the real issues we face like adults, plus our genetic line will vastly improve.

        Thus far the American people are still too well fed and fat too actually show up and get too rough. Now, that may change by a major trigger event, but I’m betting things most likely will remain in the one idiot loses his shit and tries to make a point by shooting up people he doesn’t like category. Then trying to present his case in a disjointed political message for his fellow bandwagon riders.

        • BornToKillPeace March 18, 2019 at 8:44 pm #

          Why so often the emphasis by people on “can’t get laid” ?

          This has got to be the easiest time and place in history to get laid, for anyone. And with all the other evidence of concern for our collective future – to blame these people’s perspectives on assumptions of “not getting laid”.

          Sometimes it feels like I haven’t seen an adult in years..the way people communicate anymore.

          • TiredOfTheTreadmill March 19, 2019 at 9:07 am #

            Biological drive gone wrong. Inability to interact with other humans at a deeper level. Also, it’s mentioned to be insulting. With a name like borntokillpeace are you sure you have reached adulthood yourself? Seriously.

          • BornToKillPeace March 19, 2019 at 5:11 pm #

            Did I touch a sore spot Treadmill?
            (I bet I’ve gotten laid a lot more than you and with finer examples of women)

            Here is where the handle came from. I should of put “button” after Peace.
            youtube.com/watch?v=KMEViYvojtY

          • TiredOfTheTreadmill March 19, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

            Gee, and I was going to say the same thing right back. Must have hit a sore spot on you. I’d compare ladies in my life any day too, but doesn’t that seem childish for a guy like you who is so grown up and adult? Keep swinging if you feel the need. But you were the one to respond to my post, so who’s sore spot got hit?

            The incel issue was part of at least one of these losers losing his shit. So, it does matter in the age range of many of these dudes. And it’s always dudes. Maybe you can teach them to grow up and be adults and how to get laid by finer women than everyone else can even imagine. Although, at this point this whole thread has reached the whatever point.

    • Exscotticus March 18, 2019 at 11:49 am #

      I think the fact that Pelosi is not pushing for impeachment proves otherwise.

      • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

        maybe DT has dirt on her.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:46 pm #

        Get a grip. Pelosi is not pushing for impeachment, at the MOMENT. Can’t you see a setup when it’s staring you in the face? Why do you think GGG is all riled-up? He knows the hammer is about to drop and so does Pelosi. It will be so devastating that even the panty waist Republicans will have to concede, a la Richard Nixon, and then the show can get underway. They will feel a lot better with a backbone! Their balls may even begin to grow back a little!

        Even if Mueller can get him right now due to Herr Barr interfering, the SDNY will get him soon enough. Might even be better, as it could me some time in the big house, which I would truly like to see.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:47 pm #

          can’t get him…..

        • Nightowl March 18, 2019 at 3:48 pm #

          Tell me, is the Russian Collusion in the room with us right now?

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 4:15 pm #

            I’m not sure… let me check under my desk… not there… I guess it doesn’t exist. I wonder why GGG would always kiss Putin’s arse, when he always insults everyone else, hmmm? A simple puzzlement, I suppose.

          • Nightowl March 18, 2019 at 6:21 pm #

            Perhaps John Podesta and Robby Mook can assist you. Wikileaks.org.

            Good luck.

        • benr March 20, 2019 at 10:43 am #

          The sad part Is you actually believe the tripe you post.
          As dumb as you believe Trump is somehow he is always two steps ahead of all the people who insult and go after him.
          Go figure.

      • Nightowl March 18, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

        She’s done pushing impeachment because Strozck’s “insurance policy” is now null and void.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

          A little bit of chit chat between lovers… nothing more. Listen to Steve Bannon, he believes Pelosi is masterful. He said it’s exactly what he would do. Now there is a smart white nationalist.

          • S M Tenneshaw March 19, 2019 at 8:51 am #

            WUT? He told us he was a civic nationalist. Humph!!! Cain’t trust nobody nohow nowadaze!

          • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 11:30 am #

            You got that right SMT!

  14. restless94110 March 18, 2019 at 11:09 am #

    As the years go by, and the shooting events go by, and the Mexican cartel mayhem goes by, and the black on black and black on white violence goes by, I find myself–who has never ever even shot a gun–realizing that the saying “an armed society, is a polite society” the relevant philosophy in the most nations.

    As the years go by, the robotic moronic calls for gun “control” sound more and more like the stupidities they are. It is tiring to hear anyone support gun control at all. Instead there should be a law mandating gun possession for all.

    Likewise tiring is Trump bashing in any form. They guy may not be Wiliam Shakespear, but he’s just saying in his New York way what is patently true. You get it half right, Jim.

    Maybe one day, you’ll get it righter. May that day come sooner.

    • rackslope March 18, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

      Great comment. Very close to my own heart. Feet on the ground clear eyed description of reality. So rare on this board.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

      Some who know the score say the Hispanics will take North America, either legally and the power of the womb, or thru armed conflict. Their savagery equals that of the Muslims and they are well organized and heavily armed. And they are socially disciplined in a way the Blacks never can be and a way Whites have utterly lost.

      Gangs help create viable young men who work for their Clans and Tribes. Mexico hopes to use them, but they may well use Mexico and then boot them out.

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

      Oh yes, who in the f@#king world would want to stop innocent people getting shot-up? What morons, indeed. Imagine a society without gun carnage at every turn. The horror, the horror…

      • Nightowl March 18, 2019 at 3:49 pm #

        It has lots of knife and fist carnage. Nature finds a way!

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 7:10 pm #

          Let’s hope she doesn’t let us down and the carnage continues apace, eh? Great fun all that carnage!

          • Nightowl March 19, 2019 at 5:51 am #

            No carnage in my neighborhood here in Europeland. I don’t get it. Many of my neighbors own firearms, but for some reason, there are no shooting sprees.

            We’ve even got one of the world’s biggest Schützenfeste.

            It’s almost as if there are other factors involved. Hm.

          • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 11:39 am #

            Nice, I love Euroland… used to live there. So you live in Euroland, but think we here in the US ought to have assault weapons available for all and not just target shooting festivals, is that it? Interesting.

        • benr March 20, 2019 at 10:45 am #

          And cars and other nasty devices.
          Humans are ingenious as a whole we have found an awful lot of ways to harm others.

      • elysianfield March 19, 2019 at 11:10 am #

        “Imagine a society without gun carnage at every turn.”

        Kumbaya, M’lord, Kumbaya…

    • BornToKillPeace March 18, 2019 at 9:27 pm #

      Great comment Restless94110,

      Reminds me of an exchange I had with an officer a few years ago while working 3rd shift as a second job at a small all-night grocery that mostly catered to drunk college students buying frozen pizzas after bar hoping.

      A bum had come in three times this particular night to buy cooking wine with his ebt card. He was way gone and on his third visit in we declined him service. He got belligerent and threatened violence to us and the store. At this point I had a hold of the nightstick under the register. We told him we were calling the police and his best bet were to make tracks.

      Anyways, the cops got him and reported back to us. The officer was getting my information and was telling me how upon the arrest, in which they had to handcuff him against the ground as he resisted arrest, a group of college students circled him and the other present officer with their cell phones and yelled police brutality, blah blah blah.

      I looked at the officer and said to him, “When I was 21, I did not have a degree of respect for police myself…then I grew the f*** up.” We both broke into a sincere laughter. After a stressful night for both of us, just trying to keep the stupid order required of our stupid jobs, it felt significant in that moment to relate as two men who realized how chaotic and unnecessarily societal problems can be, when it is often the self proclaimed high and mighty who are often causing or allowing most of these problems in the first place.

  15. fugeguy March 18, 2019 at 11:25 am #

    Jim touches on a good point but only scratches the surface.

    I have been banned from a forum or two even one that was related to this one for pontificating on the following truth.

    Mostly, I am a good American mongrel but a large percentage of my heritage is Scotch-Irish. One part of my family tree was run out of Scotland to Ireland and then run out again to the US. The other half was run out of Ireland during the start of the troubles to the good old. Keep in mind that it is largely accepted that these clans gave us the birth of modern terrorism in the struggle to be Ireland and not the UK.

    Many of us grew up hearing the stories of coming to he US from state sponsored starvation or at the point of a gun. We got off the boats in Manhattan put on the blue and as a side effect freed those of color. Having only recently left our homeland because the Irish held less worth than a slave. In the South you could at least sell a slave. The English only wanted the Irish dead. All of that said we cherish the second amendment and not for hunting. We know why governments desire to disarm the subjects and it is not for their safety. We chose to remain armed citizens and will not negotiate the right. We will when left no other option fight. We will fight dirty and we will not stop until lead is replaced by rope for those who choose to go there.

    In the end, all we can hope for is that those who would rule hear this message because all that awaits them is death, destruction and the rope. In America, there are many who come from not being free- Blacks, Irish, Scots and many others. We will not go back to being subjects.

    We will not start the fight and do not advocate violence but we will not also not be the victim of violence again.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:32 pm #

      They started forcing the Irish to join the “Blue” before they even got off the ships. It was too much – being strangely like the horror the English has foisted on them back home. And being as they were the same or similar tormentors, the Irish immigrants commenced the largest riots ever seen on these shores: the Draft Riots. Hundreds were killed including a lot of Blacks. Probably unfair but what can you expect from half starved, brutalized, conquered peasants who were dreaming of streets of gold only to find more John Bullshit?

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:53 pm #

      >>> “We chose to remain armed citizens and will not negotiate the right. We will when left no other option fight. We will fight dirty and we will not stop until lead is replaced by rope for those who choose to go there.”

      You won’t have a chance to negotiate, as it’s not up to you and your kin. Sounds like y’all might get run out of this place too, if you keep up.

    • wbrown March 18, 2019 at 5:06 pm #

      I had to register just to second this post as my family and I match it so closely in description and proclivities.

      But also to counter jdhines below. He expresses what I have come to realize is a belief of the bi-coastal elites, and I believe it is very much in error. They think that the only ones who will be shooting back are “rednecks,” “hicks in wife-beaters,” “meth-addled,” “opioid addicted,” “hicks,” “stupid,” “deplorable,” “racist,” etc. etc.

      This couldn’t be further from the truth. Among my close family and friends who would be involved are physicians, assistant DAs, upper-level management of large corporations, accountants, hospital CEOs, recently discharged vets, etc.

      I have had interesting discussions with LEOs over a pint at our local pub as well.

      We may never be roused to action and required to “fight dirty” as described above, but to persist in what I feel are misguided beliefs is possibly foolhardy.

      BTW, none of us would need to learn from a board what an EOTECH is, and most own similar.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 7:12 pm #

        Bravo for you!

      • ozone March 18, 2019 at 7:35 pm #

        Electro-Optic.
        Batteries. I say again, batteries.
        Goddamn fools, everywhere I go.
        Scopes; peep-sights; do the best you can ’til you can’t.
        “They” are trained [more and more] to depend on the electro-techno, and soon will be devoid of the skills that don’t depend on such.
        Even a good, well-practiced ‘guess’ can handily prevail over tech dependence that’s gone irrelevant due to battery failure.

        • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 7:53 pm #

          Open, iron, buckhorn sights is the way to go, Oz.

          Or a good Lyman peep if you can afford it.

          Believe it or not they’re making those things down in Middlefield.

          brh

      • benr March 20, 2019 at 10:50 am #

        Indeed most cops and military think EXACTLY as you do.

  16. seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 11:26 am #

    I’m not sure what you mean by this country has to address its immigration problem or how the left is playing the immigration card dangerously. What I see is the right manufacturing a problem, then threatening us if we don’t go along with their proposed solution. Yes Trump is no William Shakespear, he’s more of a cross between PT Barnum and the spokesman for Jimmy Dean sausage. He’s a bodacious bawler with a folksy kind of simple talk resonance. People are enamored with it: it’s endearing like a good shit. But his allegiance to his white supremacy base will ultimately cost him the 2020 election. In 2016 people held their noses and voted Trump. This time you have Beto, Kamala, Elizabeth, Bernie and a host of other top quality candidates. Most importantly you don’t have Hillary Clinton. There just aren’t enough skin heads to carry the day anymore. White suburban woman have had it with Carrot Top. He’s done in 2020.

    • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 11:44 am #

      HRC is rumored to be lying in wait for the herd to thin itself out during the primaries. As is “Uncle Joe” Biden. I could easily see those two sweeping in at the last moment to lock up a brokered convention.

      By the way, you continue to underestimate Trump, the exact same formula that put him in the WH in the first place. At the very least, the Dems should learn to temper their scorn and derision for the people who put him there, even if only electoral purposes.

      • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

        she is old and very ill..maybe has palsy? there are many clips of her shaking, falling, etc.

      • seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

        They’re too old. I’m waiting for the Republicans to dig John McCain up, stuff him with bubble wrap and, and pair him with a Mitt Romney ventriloquist. I’m sorry Hillary, Bernie, Joe go home. Go away. I am not an aegist, but let’s face it at some point you gotta pull off the band aid. Every 4 years it seems I see one of 2 names, Bush and Clinton. Enough already. Trump is too _______ I mean you can fill in that blank till the cows come home, have a family, raise their grandchildren and die. But first and foremost he’s too old. “Pensa antigua!” like Solozzo said to Michael in that Brooklyn restaurant. He thinks old fashioned.

      • Sam Stone March 18, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

        Uncle Joe is just holding Michelle’s place for her. When the time is right he’ll take his place as Veep once again. The press will be ecstatic. Headlines and stories will abound about The Obama/Biden story part two. K riste I’m I’ll just thinking about.

        • Sam Stone March 18, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

          Correction. Not I’ll but ill.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:56 pm #

        You can heap as much scorn, or none at all, on those rubes, they will not change their warped ways. You just have to overwhelm the buggers at the voting booth. Stupid is, as stupid does. Exhibit A = the MIDTERMS.

      • Nightowl March 18, 2019 at 6:27 pm #

        I could, too. But Hillary is an ironclad guarantee for 4 more years of Trump, and Uncle Joe has been filmed and photographed on one too many occasions getting frottagy with children.

      • ozone March 18, 2019 at 7:51 pm #

        Ol’ Scratch,
        No, at the very least, the Dems should put forward an intelligent candidate whose ideas actually have some credibility and basis in reality. …And who is not thumping tiredly on that status quo drum.
        (Ummmm, in other words: Ain’t gonna happen. So, last stop, Loserville, Land of Permanent Limbo!)

        Upshot: RE-election of King Klown. The circus intensifies in weirdness and gets markedly bloodier with bolder acts hired to thrill the crowd! Sounds like big fun to me — how’s about you?

      • venuspluto67 March 18, 2019 at 9:50 pm #

        HRC is such an object of widespread loathing that I think there’s too much of a temptation to imagine her as some kind of undead “thing” that just keeps coming back and coming back until you lob a concussion-grenade at it or something. But nobody with so much as the tiniest lick of sense wants her back on the playing field, so I don’t think it’s going to happen.

        • Ricechex March 19, 2019 at 11:51 pm #

          “as some kind of undead “thing” that just keeps coming back and coming back until you lob a concussion-grenade at it or something. ”

          Very funny!! 🙂

    • cbeard March 18, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

      Your host of top quality candidates are equal to the field of Republican status quo that ran against Trump.

      • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

        Agreed. I bet DJT gets a second term.

        • seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

          Nope. The bloom is off the rose. The verdict is in. It’s not Shinola.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:59 pm #

          You, are a dreamer sir! Never, ever going to happen! You’ll be crying in your beer come November 2020. The country has had enough of this white nationalist/supremacist, racist, nut job. You’ll see.

        • Majella March 18, 2019 at 6:13 pm #

          Unbelievable…I doubt he’ll even be the Republican candidate in 2020. There’s a shitload of water to go under the bridge betwixt now & then.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:48 pm #

        Perhaps so, it won’t take much to beat GGG after everyone has had four years of the prick. He’ll go home to the Orange Tower and lead a life of mediocrity.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:35 pm #

      No, his betrayal of his White base will cost him the election. He played us – his real allegiance is to the Judeo-Masonic power structure. Many of us aren’t true believers – we hoped is all. But those hopes have turned to ashes as per his actions which speak louder than his words.

      • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

        Not defending Trump, but it’s still possible he’s being played, as he’s surrounded by enemies on all sides now. That said, he’s put himself in this position time and time again, so he was almost certainly never up to the job in the first place. I don’t think Trump has any particular allegiance, he’s too impulsive and scattershot in his actions. But the way the Dems and Reps are both imploding right now, I still think it’s possible for him to “snatch victory from the jaws of defeat” and win again in 2020. At which time the deep state will likely throw in the towel and just murder him outright.

    • BornToKillPeace March 18, 2019 at 9:49 pm #

      Funny, Seawolf references Jimmy Dean (country music singer).

      The globalists and radical left keep poking the bear and there are going to be a whole hell of a lot of Big Bad Johns to contend with.

      “Every mornin’ at the mine you could see him arrive
      He stood six-foot-six and weighed two-forty-five
      Kinda broad at the shoulder and narrow at the hip
      And everybody knew ya didn’t give no lip to big John
      (Big John, big John)
      Big bad John (big John)

      Nobody seemed to know where John called home
      He just drifted into town and stayed all alone
      He didn’t say much, kinda quiet and shy
      And if you spoke at all, you just said hi to Big John
      Somebody said he came from New Orleans
      Where he got in a fight over a Cajun Queen
      And a crashin’ blow from a huge right hand
      Sent a Louisiana fellow to the promised land, big John
      (Big John, big John)
      Big bad John (big John)

      Then came the day at the bottom of the mine
      When a timber cracked and men started cryin’
      Miners were prayin’ and hearts beat fast
      And everybody thought that they’d breathed their last, ‘cept John
      Through the dust and the smoke of this man-made hell
      Walked a giant of a man that the miners knew well
      Grabbed a saggin’ timber, gave out with a groan
      And like a giant oak tree he just stood there alone, big John
      (Big John, big John)
      Big bad John (big John)

      And with all of his strength he gave a mighty shove
      Then a miner yelled out “there’s a light up above!”
      And twenty men scrambled from a would-be grave
      Now there’s only one left down there to save, big John
      With jacks and timbers they started back down
      Then came that rumble way down in the ground
      And then smoke and gas belched out of that mine
      Everybody knew it was the end of the line for big John
      (Big John, big John)
      Big bad John (big John)

      Now, they never reopened that worthless pit
      They just placed a marble stand in front of it
      These few words are written on that stand
      At the bottom of this mine lies a big, big man
      Big John”

  17. JohnAZ March 18, 2019 at 11:27 am #

    To all you folks that call America and Trump a fascist totalitarian state.

    A reminder of what would have happened to the anti country folks like AOC, and just about every other Progressive in this country if we were like USSR under Stalin, Germany under Hitler, Japan under Tojo, China under Mao, NOKO today, Syria today, Venezuela today.

    This country where liberal jerks that try to destroy the freedoms of this country are tolerated is very different. Libs that try to label the president with the fascist label are full of s—t. This country remains the bastion of liberty for the world.

    Unless the Libs have their way infusing socialists into the country, illegally giving them the vote, locking in a one party system.

    Which is a dictatorship.

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 11:35 am #

      Here’s your imbecile, enjoy him for a little under two years. I f@#king guarantee you this freak will not win in 2020. Gurant-f@#king-teed.

      JDH

      • Exscotticus March 18, 2019 at 11:52 am #

        Do you have a video of yourself melting down when Trump won in 2016? Please post it!

        • rackslope March 18, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

          LOL, I hope JD is preparing for election night 2020. It’s going to the worst night of his/her life.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

            We will see. I think it will be you crying in your Ripple this time around, but time will tell.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

          Sorry, no video Ex, but I can assure that I was crying in my scotch rocks for the unfortunate turn of events that befell our country. I guess you were whooping it up, eh? Like what you see? Enjoy your imbecile while you can.

          • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

            What’s with the insults? Are ad hominems the only way you can mentally justify your political position? How about next time you debate the facts.

          • Exscotticus March 18, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

            Well I give you points for drinking scotch! Yum!

          • GreenAlba March 20, 2019 at 9:47 am #

            Enjoy your scotch while you can, Exscotticus. Trump might slap a huge tariff on it if we don’t feed the NHS to his cronies.

            Lose-lose…

          • Q. Shtik March 20, 2019 at 10:47 am #

            Trump might slap a huge tariff on it – GA

            ==============

            If you do not favor a tariff you refer to it as having been slapped on. If you favor a tariff you might say it has been used or applied.

            Ever notice how a hurricane is always said to have slammed into a coastline?

          • GreenAlba March 20, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

            I suspect you’re right, Q. I’ve also noticed that when people don’t like what someone says, they don’t use ‘say’ to describe it, it often has to be ‘shriek’.

            As for hurricanes courteously approaching coasts and waiting till invited on land, no, ain’t gonna happen.

            But I favour the farmers – they work hard in tough conditions, with high risks (and getting higher), so I’m happy to accept my linguistic bias.

      • fugeguy March 18, 2019 at 11:53 am #

        Many times I have stated that I am not a Trump fan.

        That said you can add your rant here:

        youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=LFSPi3v4cXQ

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

          Thanks, but no thanks.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

          Farmer Joe, hit me up with one of your alternate facts and I’ll be glad to refute it, post haste.

          • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 9:27 pm #

            I’m still waiting for you to post one of yours….

          • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 11:49 am #

            Here’s a fact for you” TRUMP IS A PROVEN LIAR. Your turn.

          • Farmer Joe March 19, 2019 at 4:39 pm #

            For example?

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

      You are still in a state of Fail, John Az. Those who fight for the Red, White, and Blue are fighting and dying for the Gay Disco as Catholic blogger Michael Jones said. Exactly what Westboro Baptist Church said as well, albeit in a more polished way.

      Still misusing the word Fascism as I see. Only Fascism – the Nation mobilized against all Enemies within and without – can save us now.

  18. jdhines March 18, 2019 at 11:29 am #

    Jim,

    >>> “The Left is doing everything possible to confound the issue and muddle it with litigation at every level, from local law enforcement to congress, starting with the longstanding effort to garble the definitions of legal versus illegal immigration.”

    This is an unbelievably one-sided and distorted statement. Have you lost your marbles? The legal asylum seekers at the border are 100% within their rights to apply for asylum. Period. GGG is the one causing a crisis at the border and you, of all people, are well aware of that. You’re fond of taking kids from their moms and locking them in cages? Haven’t you heard ILLEGAL immigration is at a decades long LOW! Of course, you know that.

    >>> “… confound the issue and muddle it…” Are you serious? You are describing GGG to perfection! This ne’er-do-well well is wreaking all kinds of havoc throughout the world and you’ve taken to calling this imbecile Mr. Trump? What happened to the Golden Goblin of Gotham or whatever the hell it was?

    As to guns, I say put the f@#king cat back in the bag. Too many white supremacists. If you think the US of A is going to bow down to a bunch of gun toting, redneck, Right Wing, Republican voting, red state dwelling, idiots, then you’re crazy. If they and Trump are itching for a fight the US military will give it to them and then we’ll see how tough those overweight, opiated, militiamen are. You think they have a propensity for violence, you ought to have seen some of the guys in Viet Nam, Shit.

    This idiot that under half the country saddled us with is a f@#k up, plain and simple and anyone who cannot see that is willfully blind. Sorry, but you should own the shit you espouse.

    JDH

    • KarlDehrmann March 18, 2019 at 11:37 am #

      Illegal immigration is at a low, but over 70,000 people still entered illegally last month alone. That is a lot by any objective standard.

      Also, don’t be so confident about the ability of the “Left” to direct the US military to take action domestically, against civilians. A significant portion of the military is composed of your “gun toting, redneck, Right Wing, Republican voting, red state dwelling, idiots”. My best guess is that turning the military loose domestically would fracture the military. All of America is not New York, D.C., or Los Angeles. You don’t have to like the rest of them, but you marginalize them at your peril.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 11:40 am #

        I’ll take the risk. And the 70,000 applied for asylum, which (please read the law) is legal, very legal – even if you don’t agree with it.

        JDH

        • KarlDehrmann March 18, 2019 at 11:45 am #

          Presumably you are familiar with Mr. Kunstler’s work. You aren’t concerned about increasing the population (particularly a culturally and ethnically different population) when we seem to be on the cusp of peak oil? It seems like an incredibly bad idea to me, given the troubles that are forthcoming.

        • Exscotticus March 18, 2019 at 11:55 am #

          And 2A is the supreme law of the land, and gun ownership is legal—very legal—even if you don’t agree with it.

          Applying for asylum is legal. Getting asylum is another matter.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:26 pm #

            How long do you think society is going to put up with this gun carnage? You don’t they’re getting good and fed-up with the death toll splashed (no pun, etc.) all over every other day? Maybe not our generation, but the younger generation has certainly seen the folly of “assault weapons for all.”

            We should keep the 2nd A, because some lowlifes in the hood or the holler want to be “tough guys?” Or to protect freedom, as if they are going to do that? Soon enough the 2nd A will be a bad dream that we woke up from, and your precious amendment will be no more (as the judge taps his little hammer). Common sense isn’t all that common, but it does happens after enough, is enough. I guess you’ll be a bit upset when that (not if) happens, no?

            You can still be a real tough guy with a bow and arrow. The Comanches were REAL bad asses.

          • Exscotticus March 18, 2019 at 5:31 pm #

            @jdhines,

            Do some homework. Gun-related massacres continue even in nations that don’t allow any civilian gun ownership. Meanwhile, massacres involving bladed weapons and autos take their place. Think being shot is bad? Try being hacked to death with a machete. Your mental malfunction is that you think guns are the problem, and not the criminals and psychos who will easily use other means.

          • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 6:10 pm #

            Maybe JD likes the situation in London better, no guns allowed, but where you’re more likely to get a vat of acid thrown in your face while walking down the street, or stabbed.

            In France you cannot own a gun, but its strange, is it not, that whenever Mustafa needs a Kalashnikov to shoot up say, a newspaper office or a concert venue, he always seems to get hold of one.

            Brh

          • jdhines March 21, 2019 at 11:33 am #

            It’s A LAW of the land; I wouldn’t call it the supreme law. A good many laws have been changed.

          • jdhines March 21, 2019 at 11:44 am #

            Probably the best example of the SUPREME law, or more properly, the supreme sentiment of the land, is

            “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator (G_d his-self) with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

            I would submit to you that the 2nd A is in direct conflict with “LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” for thousands of innocents that have been gunned down by various classes/types of Nutcases.

            The kids in Florida
            The Worshippers in Christchurch and Pittsburgh
            The Sandy Hook kids
            The Denver movie goers
            The Las Vegas concert goers
            The Texas school kids and church goers
            Well, you get the idea….

            However, I do understand how important it is for dudes in the hood and the holler and every other damn place in this union to have their bang bang toys and live in their fantasy worlds, but it does seem contradictory, at least for the folks who are no longer with us through no fault of their own, yeah?

          • Exscotticus March 21, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

            >>> “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator (G_d his-self) with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

            That’s a quote from the Declaration of Independence, which is not a legal document, not legally binding, and not the supreme law of the land.

            And even if it was, are you seriously arguing that everyone should give up their guns? Police, too? Military?

          • jdhines March 22, 2019 at 11:35 am #

            >>> “AR15s are not “super high-velocity military assault rifles”. In fact, they’re not used by any military.”

            Now you are quibbling. “In 1956, ArmaLite designed a lightweight selective fire rifle for military use and designated it the ArmaLite Rifle model 15, or AR-15.”

            and

            “The semi-automatic civilian AR-15 was introduced by Colt in 1963. The primary distinction between civilian semi-automatic rifles and military assault rifles is select fire. Military models were produced with firing modes, semi-automatic fire and either fully automatic fire mode or burst fire mode, in which the rifle fires three rounds in succession when the trigger is depressed. AR-15 Rifles with select fire modes are classified as M16’s.”

            >>> “What amazes me is that you have no problem with civilian police having, “super high-velocity military assault rifles”.

            Well, here you convinced me, let’s leave the ASSAULT STYLE Military weapons to the military, no police use. OK? Feel better?

        • cbeard March 18, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

          Statue of Liberty engravings be damned. Do you really think America can/should take all who want to come here. They should stay home and straighten out their own shithole country instead of coming here. As far as legality of asylum goes, common sense says the law is wrong, just like you.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

            No, I don’t think we should take all comers. But legal asylum seekers are only exercising their rights. Change the law if you don’t like it. As if you wouldn’t try if your kids were getting forced into gangs, etc. Or would just let them be taken?

          • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 2:34 pm #

            And where is “asylum seeking” in the Constitution? Oh it’s legal now? But is legal the same same as right? Obviously hundreds of millions will come here if they can, turning us into a 3rd World country.

            It should be illegal in other words. It’s just a trick, a way of having no borders at all (except to keep out White Europeans).

          • Exscotticus March 18, 2019 at 7:26 pm #

            Applying for asylum is legal; cutting through fences and crossing the border is not. And the latter should automatically disqualify you for the former.

          • jdhines March 21, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

            Ex, hardly. I don’t even want all guns banned, just super high volocity military assault rifles from non-military/police citizens.
            Is the price of AR15s, etc., worth all the senseless killing? It’s not for me and most Americans.

          • Exscotticus March 21, 2019 at 8:54 pm #

            >>> …just super high volocity military assault rifles from non-military/police… Is the price of AR15s,

            AR15s are not “super high volocity military assault rifles”. In fact they’re not used by any military.

            What amazes me is that you have no problem with civilian police having, “super high volocity military assault rifles”.

        • Q. Shtik March 18, 2019 at 5:17 pm #

          And the 70,000 applied for asylum, which (please read the law) is legal, very legal – JDH

          ============

          I have NOT read the law but if one can apply for asylum AFTER crossing the border into the US the law is ridiculous. Common sense tells me the application should/must come BEFORE entry.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 7:22 pm #

            Simple. Change the law. It should tell you something that whenever the Republican Right Wing is in power, you don’t see them even utter a word about changing the law, do you?

            You know why? The corporate masters like cheapo, exploitable labor, that’s why. That’s always been the story. This border crisis is just more hogwash that the rubes are eating-up and begging for more. Red meat, no. Fresh hogwash.

            Now the Dem Left Wing see new voters with ever crossing and they ALSO have to defer to their corporate masters.

            You see no wall, no way. End of story. If there was ever going to be a wall it would have happened decades ago. Even 12 Right Wingers in the Senate voted against it. Come on, read the writing on the wall (sorry, no pun, etc.).

      • Majella March 18, 2019 at 6:19 pm #

        “Illegal immigration is at a low, but over 70,000 people still entered illegally last month alone.”

        Really? How are they counted? Most ‘illegal’ immigration is just people overstaying their visas, and you can’t count them as they ARRIVE – they’re legal at that point.

    • fugeguy March 18, 2019 at 11:38 am #

      Like I said in my post my family never owned slaves and we got off the boats, put on the blue and freed the slaves. Blacks and many whites know what it is to be considered property and even less. It’s not only the stereo-typical redneck who won’t give up the right. If it was only that the right would already be gone.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 11:41 am #

        Ride and die with your gang is what they can do if they love guns more than life. The day will come when the 2nd amendment will be no more than a footnote in history. I don’t know when, but it’s a very safe bet.

        JDH

        • fugeguy March 18, 2019 at 11:44 am #

          You miss the point. We love life. Guns are for defending it. Look at history and see what it means to be disarmed.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

            It might have had a purpose back in the day when everyone was using rifles (muskets), but we are out-gunned now no matter how you slice it. Period. Could you pull a few ‘bushes, cause some havoc? Sure, no problem, but you are not going to beat the US military with the type of weapons available to the public, even if there are a few AR15s and AKs in the mix.

          • fugeguy March 18, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

            Seems the afganies, VC, etc did not get this “fact.”

          • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 2:36 pm #

            Ah the truth come out: Hines doesn’t hate guns or eschew violence at all. He just doesn’t want ordinary people to have them. So much for his “Democracy”.

          • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 9:34 pm #

            No Janos. He doesn’t want YOU to have them.

        • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

          Hey JD I get the feeling you would be happy to see all the amendments no more than a footnote in history. Then you could start building utopia, paradise right here on earth.

          Step 1) outlaw whitey

          Step 2) establish gulags

          Step 3) sentence whitey to 25 year sentence in the gulag for ‘crimes against the climate and humanity.’

          Brh

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

            Narrow minded Brh, very narrow minded. You know I love whitey; I just don’t hate all the others. And, why shit in your nest anyway? Can you ‘splain that one to me please?

          • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

            As Bono said, God has very strange kids.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

            >>> “Seems the afganies, VC, etc did not get this “fact.”

            Good point, but you neglect to state that the Afghanies had Charlie Wilson and the CIA supplying them with Stingers and the VC had China & Russia supplying them with anti-aircraft weapons and tanks, not too mention advisers. Who’s going to arm the redneck rabble? Riddle me that batman….

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

            Janos, heck no I don’t hate guns. I even own a few. I just don’t like hearing about nutcases shooting up innocents.

            Heck, I don’t even think a dog should be shot, let alone 49 humans. Shit, that is TOO cold not to mention disruptive and a real drag for those getting wasted for no good reason.

            But, no, I love my guns, it’s the death I can do without.

          • BornToKillPeace March 18, 2019 at 10:08 pm #

            So an Australian citizen shoots up a New Zealand mosque and this is evidence that American’s need to scrap the 2A?

            This already shows how warped a globalist paradigm is.

            Americans are sitting ducks without the 2A and anybody with two brain cells to rub together knows this.

    • rackslope March 18, 2019 at 1:11 pm #

      Wow, just wow. You have to be getting paid to write this crap. Or, perhaps, you never leave campus.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

        I am paid…. in good feelings countering the BS of the hard right and their idiot stooges who buy their shit hook line and sinker. Enjoy your hogwash and your imbecile while you can! Very well paid, indeed.

        • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 9:36 pm #

          Still waiting for an argument involving facts, and not insults, JD.

        • BornToKillPeace March 18, 2019 at 10:12 pm #

          I’d love to hear what a “hard righter” is in this person’s mind.

          Someone who said the word faggot once without being covered in full body glitter?

          A person who knows how to change their own oil?

          Someone who likes the taste of pimento cheese?

      • Nightowl March 19, 2019 at 6:06 am #

        It really is a sight to behold. I think he has posted more himself on this thread than the rest of us collectively.

        • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

          Well, birds of a feather flock together…. you’ve got me out numbered and Jim, for his own reasons, has decided to add fuel to your fantasies, but it will all be to no avail, you’ll see.

          This Right Wing, White Supremacist, Fascist, gun and apple pie fantasy crap will come to a sudden end, as it always does, and they and their ilk will go back in the shadows where they belong. Just look at history, this is but a minor “flare-up” of tiki torches. I know, it’s painful for you faithful to fathom, but you must face facts or live in LaLa land, right?

          • Nightowl March 20, 2019 at 5:45 pm #

            I am a registered Green. As I see it, the facts are not on your side.

    • elysianfield March 18, 2019 at 5:54 pm #

      “As to guns, I say put the f@#king cat back in the bag.”

      JDH,

      Are you aware of the scope of the problem? Do you know that there are three to six million guns in this country? We gonna need a bigger bag….

      Correction,

      Three hundred million to six hundred million guns, and that might be conservative….

      • Majella March 18, 2019 at 6:37 pm #

        “Correction,

        Three hundred million to six hundred million guns, and that might be conservative….”

        Holy shit. The number for Small Arms in the US is reported to be 393,000,000 which equates to 120 weapons per 100 citizens. Interestingly, only 1.07 million are registered, which I guess means ‘legal’. If so then 392,000,000 are illegal.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 7:31 pm #

        Well, we could start slow and build our way up. Start off with assault weapons and then move down the chain.

        The real trick would be to allow lawsuits against greedy global gun manufacturers. You know, the global elites that you guys are always bitching about? In fact, it was just ruled in Connecticut that a laws suit against the manufacture of that Bushmaster (I believe it was) can proceed.

        So, you see there is light at the end of the tunnel! It just takes time. When they give you a choice of turn in your guns or if we catch you with one its twenty years in the pen, you’ll probably start thinking straight, right?

        • Jigplate March 18, 2019 at 9:04 pm #

          “When they give you a choice of turn in your guns or if we catch you with one its twenty years in the pen, you’ll probably start thinking straight, right?”

          There are not enough prison cells in the entire nation to hold the number of Americans that will refuse to comply with that “law”. Now what are you going to do?

          • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

            Keep dreaming. Folks ALWAYS talk big until they don’t. Just like Roger Stone, what a wimp.

        • elysianfield March 19, 2019 at 11:21 am #

          “So, you see there is light at the end of the tunnel!”

          A muzzle blast….

  19. volodya March 18, 2019 at 11:33 am #

    What’s obvious in this “debate” on immigration is that the elites of US society, whether they mouth the slogans of the Left, or those of the Right, are fully convinced of their own invincibility. They cannot conceive of their own vulnerability to high velocity projectiles or to the deleterious effects of what even the most illiterate people on the planet can produce; the IED, the home-made bomb.

    See, it’s other people that die like dogs, not them. It’s the woebegone, sandal-wearing donkey-rider in the hills of Afghanistan that gets gunned down, it’s the Deplorable twenty-two year old with the high-school certificate and the august rank of corporal that comes home dismembered in a coffin to his weeping mom, but a fate like that is surely not in the cards for the Manhattanite NYU grad.

    You try to disabuse them of the notion but they’re not about to listen, the probability of such a fate for someone so innately superior being something between zero and nada. And so they strive mightily in word and deed to set Americans at one another’s throats as if in the resulting conflagrations the instigators would necessarily remain unscathed.

    The rhetoric of Left and Right provides the smoke screen but in actuality Right is no different from Left on the immigration issue. So-called conservatives want open immigration because they want cheap labor and a disposable workforce for the corporate sector. So-called progressives want open immigration for the exact same reason. When it comes to actual policy when in power, Left and Right are pretty much the same. Both are in the pockets of a handful of billionaire donors who finance their political operations, who provide post-politics careers, who look after the well-being of the senator’s kids, and so both Left and Right do the billionaire’s bidding.

    The Left openly despises Deplorables as fat, toothless, racist, ignoramuses and don’t even try to get their votes, the Right laughs at Deplorables as credulous buffoons. What neither Left nor Right take into account is the reality of the day-to-day circumstances of the people they denigrate. And they don’t figure they have to because they figure they’ve got nothing to fear from them. And so we get this patently fraudulent “debate” on immigration which in fact is no debate whatsoever.

    Nothing to fear? It ain’t so because, as Jim sez, the country is full to bursting with high powered weaponry in the hands of those same people that day-in and day-out get looked down on and spat on by both sides of the political spectrum. It’s like Abe said, you can’t fool all the people all the time, and so if enough of the people wake up, as they appear to be doing given what’s been done to them, there will be hell to pay.

    What’s at issue with immigration are bread and butter and life and death issues. It would highly behoove everyone to pay attention to Trump because what he said was the truth, those guns are no joke and neither are the men that bear them.

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 11:38 am #

      Give me a f@#king break. They are a joke and you’ll see if they ever have the balls to face US regulars. They tried it once before and it didn’t work out too well for them. Dopes will be dopes. Why do you think they call it dope?

      JDH

      • Exscotticus March 18, 2019 at 12:02 pm #

        LOL you assume “US regulars” will be on the side of the Left? Think again. Generals will follow the Constitution—not hothead Lefty revolutionaries. You think soldiers—with guns—are going to give their lives for the “right” to have guns taken from them as civilians?! LOL. You’ve obviously never served.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

          The military guys and gals I know (retired and active) obey orders. I guess the rabble you are talking about don’t obey their superior officers, eh? The same thing was said during the war of northern aggression. They will never fire on their brethren. Right? Read about Gettysburg, where more were killed in three days than ten years of Vietnam. You can see the pictures of the piles of feet and arms. (then you can LOL some more). They’ll obey orders and they will fight.

      • Jigplate March 18, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

        JD, you seem to be of the opinion that President Kamala is going to issue an executive order for the 82nd airborne to start kicking down doors in flyover country to confiscate privately owned firearms, a la Fallujah 2004. You might be interested to know that a not insignificant number of the US military are members of, or at least sympathetic to the oath keepers, so Madame President might just get a great big wet raspberry from the rank and file.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 7:34 pm #

          Well, if they want to give it a try, that is their prerogative. It can be tough poking at the government as Johnny Reb found out pretty quickly. It did take a while for the lesson to sink in, but J. Reb finally got the essence of it.

          • Jigplate March 18, 2019 at 8:45 pm #

            “Well, if they want to give it a try, that is their prerogative. It can be tough poking at the government as Johnny Reb found out pretty quickly”

            JD, you have a seriously discombobulated understanding of the modern military. For every ass-kicker with a rifle, there are 3 or more in logistics, life support and HQ/admin. Even in Iraq in 2005 the “Tooth to tail” ratio was nearly 75% in non-combat roles. All it takes is a few percent of the ass-kickers to stand up and say ” No sir, I will not comply with that order” for it all to fall apart. No grand “poking at the government” necessary.

          • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

            >>> “JD, you have a seriously discombobulated understanding of the modern military. For every ass-kicker with a rifle, there are 3 or more in logistics, life support and HQ/admin. Even in Iraq in 2005 the “Tooth to tail” ratio was nearly 75% in non-combat roles. All it takes is a few percent of the ass-kickers to stand up and say ” No sir, I will not comply with that order” for it all to fall apart. No grand “poking at the government” necessary.”

            I hear what you are saying Jigplate, and I am sure you believe it, but I do NOT believe it, as there is scant historical evidence to suggest that a few malcontent soldiers will cause a mutiny of the entire US armed forces. I think you’ll find the our troops are pretty well indoctrinated in following ALL orders, after they have been in their units a few months.

            Of course, there are minor exceptions to this, but they are rare. The US military has been demanding discipline and ACHIEVING it a lot longer than some rabble has been thinking about insurrection and the consequences therein.

            Also, and SO WHAT about the ratios of support troops to line troops? What does that prove?

          • Exscotticus March 20, 2019 at 10:33 am #

            >>> there is scant historical evidence to suggest that a few malcontent soldiers will cause a mutiny of the entire US armed forces

            It won’t be a few soldiers; it will be generals taking their soldiers with them; it will be civil war. And if you need historical evidence for this, try the Civil War.

    • montsegur March 19, 2019 at 5:55 am #

      You try to disabuse them of the notion but they’re not about to listen — volodya

      The, eh, elite have reached the same level of disconnection that proved all too unfortunate for the French and Russian royals.

      those guns are no joke and neither are the men that bear them.

      No, they aren’t. And no matter what may be arrayed against them, once those people figure they having nothing left to lose, many will opt to go down fighting. The interior of the USA is a big place. The Feds, the Army … can’t be everywhere … and in this kind of situation, the loyalty of the Army would not be a given, seeing as once the ‘deplorables’ are removed from the Army, about all one is left with are a few malcontents and a stray yellow dog.

      Cheers

  20. JohnAZ March 18, 2019 at 11:42 am #

    The USA has been a safety valve for the problems of the world. Whenever a regime had a problem with disease, drought, food production, political and religious zealots, war they just emigrated the problem to, you guessed it, the USA.

    Problem is, we are starting to have problems with resource capacity, national debt supporting illegals, and a lousy group of jerks called the Deep State.

    Where do we send our problem children?

    No safety valve?

    Violence!

    The Maoist Communist who shot up Christchurch is a symptom of the lack of a safety valve. There is no where to dump “the tired and poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free”. He blamed all of NZs and the worlds problems on the presence of these folks.

    And by the way, as in all the massacres, tighter guns laws would not have stopped the shooters. A rebirth of political hope that problems can be solved would help. Yeah, right!

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:40 pm #

      >>>” The Maoist Communist who shot up Christchurch…”

      It appears you have misidentified this goon. He’s one of your own, a right wing nut, white supremacist, who adores your Orangeman. You can read his ramblings… it’s all there. Let’s at least keep our facts straight, shall we?

      • JohnAZ March 18, 2019 at 2:55 pm #

        He self identified as a sympathizer to the Chinese Communists. You better get your facts straight!

        • Majella March 18, 2019 at 6:51 pm #

          Clearly, he’s very confused then! A Maoist and a Trumpster? An unlikely combination. Where’d you get the Maoist bit from JohnAZ?

          • JohnAZ March 19, 2019 at 9:58 am #

            The last “revolution” in China was an attempt to make China for the Chinese. Sorta the same aim this guy wrote into his manifesto.

            Part of his manifesto said he was trying to fire up the US Left to Sow discord in he US. If that is considered Pro-Trump, so be it.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 3:00 pm #

      Maoist Communist – oh Lord, what a moron. Why did You create people like “Frank”. Frankly Lord, it’s hard to take sometimes.

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 4:20 pm #

        Janos, that was JohnAZ, not moi.

  21. GhostOfHam March 18, 2019 at 11:49 am #

    The UN-Papacy Roman pagan worship must have its green sacrifices.

    • malthuss March 19, 2019 at 12:35 am #

      The UN is from Rockefeller and the guy who tried to give us the
      LON. Hiss?

      • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 1:00 am #

        The Rockefeller family is deeply involved in the NWO?

        • JohnAZ March 19, 2019 at 10:07 am #

          Yep, and the Mellon’s and Rothschilds. Scary!

          From what I understand, the NWO liberalism started at the end of WW2 as an attempt at stopping future nationalistic wars. Globalize the world and voila, Kumbaya happens.

          What stops the trend is when the economically aggressive nations like Germany, Japan, China and the US get tired of carrying the rest of the world on their shoulders.

          Sorta like the economically active Right Wing of the US getting sick of carrying the Leftist gimmes, who want everything free.

          That will be the story of 2020. Elect Dems and forget about the work ethic, domestically and world wide.

          • JohnAZ March 19, 2019 at 10:12 am #

            Sidebar

            All the freebies that the Dem candidates are espousing to buy the presidency add up to a considerable budget addition and deficit increase.

            No worry, we are only 22 trillion dollars in debt,

            What me worry.

            Alfred E. Newman should be the poster child for the Democrats, just another jackass.

  22. volodya March 18, 2019 at 11:51 am #

    Reality is only so flexible so as to getting fucking breaks, don’t count on it. So, wakey, wakey JD, better smell the coffee. It’s not too late but time is not on your side and always and forever works against the blind and deliberately blind. Just who do you think the “regulars” are? Where do you think they come from? And who do you think they’ll be once they’re chewed up and spat out by the military? Where do you think they’ll go? And as to “balls”, I don’t think there’s any deficiency.

    History is replete with those feeling superior to the common man and history shows it to be a very bad approach. Abusive aristocracies and ruling classes lose and those that do their bidding lose with them.

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

      The regulars I know, which is quite a lot of them actually, obey orders. I know where many of the regulars come from to escape the poverty ridden hills, farm, the hood and industrial towns. Doesn’t matter. They always have and always will obey their superior officers. So V, why don’t you wakey, wakey and smell the coffee, bitter as it may be?

      I agree with you on the abusive aristocrats, by the way. Your Orangeman is a prime example, unless you have bought into the crock that he’s a “man of the people.” I doubt you buy that V.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 3:02 pm #

        And how are they being treated by their “superiors”? As a Commie, you know very well. Hint: the ones who let themselves be known by you or to you aren’t the ones we’re talking about. By definition, they would have nothing to do with your ilk.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:14 pm #

          Commie? Well, if I am, I’m in a world of shit considering the good Capitalist life I’m living. The USA if a nice place if you have enough jack. Pretty rough if you don’t. I like the Capitalists and the USA just fine. I just hate to see it ruined and run into the ground by a schmuck conman like GGG. You know what I mean?

          • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 10:40 pm #

            Please, tell me, what EXACTLY has the president done to earn so much of your contempt.

          • JohnAZ March 19, 2019 at 10:15 am #

            Farmer Joe

            Just keep asking that question. It shuts up the Leftists every time.

            You would think Trump beat up every single one of them personally to listen to them.

          • Farmer Joe March 19, 2019 at 10:36 am #

            The way they act it sure seems that way.

          • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

            >>> “Please, tell me, what EXACTLY has the president done to earn so much of your contempt.”

            Good question Farmer Joe. First off, he is an inveterate LIAR. He is an OPPORTUNIST of the worst sort. He is a NARCISSIST who only cares about himself. He is a proven RACIST who curries favor with the KKK, et al.

            He doesn’t pay his business bills in full and ALWAYS tries to weasel. He is not loyal to ANYONE. He is a DRAFT DODGER. He is the biggest NAME CALLER ever (which you accuse me of, but GGG it’s OK, right?). He is NOT THE SLIGHTEST bit presidential.

            He SOWS CHAOS wherever he goes. You’ll notice that whoever gets close to this prick, there is a good chance their life will turn to shit. You know the names. He is a DIVIDER (remember all the Birther stupidity he pedaled?) He’s is a shitty businessman. How many bankruptcies? Seven, I believe. He won’t share his taxes although he said he would. He kisses dictators and Saudi asses repeatedly. He had to payoff hard working Americans who got suckered by his TRUMP University ($25 million).

            He TWEETS way too much BS.

            Other than the above, I like him just fine.

          • Farmer Joe March 19, 2019 at 4:43 pm #

            I will respond to this when I get a response to your series of points further down.

  23. Beryl of Oyl March 18, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

    I found this interesting column that relates to the after-effects of immigration:
    steynonline.com/9234/two-mile-tailbacks-at-jew-hate-junction
    I found the discussion after the column just as informative and interesting as the column, if not more so.
    Especially the one referred to, March 6, 2019 at 20:51.

    I find that with some people, the intense dislike of Jews is almost more of a superstition, or Jooperstition, if you will. Maybe it should be Jewperstition? Since I’m the one inventing the term, I am going with both, but with Jooperstition as the preferred form.
    Put that in your style book, NYT.

    BTW, an Islamophobe is someone opposed to globalism.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 18, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

      You first need to clarify that Judaism is the religion that Jews practiced before Christ, and Christ himself was an orthodox Jew, and even compared other nations with dogs, and Jews with the children of the God, who appeared to Abraham in the form of the Starry sky, and to Moses in the form of a bush of fire on Mount Sinai.

      Moreover, in theory, this is not necessary to explain, it is the basics, but since nobody now is even slightly educated in religious matters, my mission is to explain such elementary things, as that Christ himself was a Jew and all that you say about the Jews in general, my dear CFNers, applies to him too.

      • Beryl of Oyl March 18, 2019 at 1:35 pm #

        I need to clarify, Finc, or “you” as in the reader?
        I don’t think I need to clarify anything, nor have I said anything in general about the Jews, except that I think some people are superstitious about them.
        I’m not sure I understand your point.
        As for being educated in religious matters, I’ve been hanging out as of late with the Evangelicals, and I’m also part of what they used to call an “interfaith” family, which is probably the reason I’ve avoided being Jooperstitious myself.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 3:04 pm #

        Wrong. Christ loathed the Pharisee sect and they hated in Him in return, conspiring with the Romans to have him crucified. Have you heard about that.

        And being as almost all modern Judaism stems from said Pharisee Sect it is nothing but slander to associate Christ with them. Hope that helps. You’re batting 0 as per usual.

        • JohnAZ March 19, 2019 at 10:19 am #

          Wrong.

          Christ loathed no one. He spent his ministry trying to explain how corrupted the man made Judaism of the time had become. All the guys with vested interests in maintaining the status quo hated him and thought they destroyed him on the cross.

          Boy, were they wrong.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 19, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

            Correction: I said He loathed the Pharisee sect, not the individuals. Indeed, many of his disciples where from that sect as it was the one that was the most alive and expansive.

            Now you have to explain why you bow to that which he hated.
            Is the servant greater than the Master?

      • elysianfield March 18, 2019 at 6:00 pm #

        Komraden Finc!

        BBC reports a massive fireball, perhaps a meteor, exploding off Russia’s Bearing sea coast.

        Unsubstantiated rumor has it that it was one of Russia’s new super weapons…perhaps the “Flying Chernobyl” or some such….

    • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:58 am #

      Well that is also because Islam is intended to be a blueprint for global governance.

  24. capt spaulding March 18, 2019 at 12:33 pm #

    The most alarming thing I have seen lately is the report of Trump basically threatening violence involving the military, police, and bikers. The idea that the President of the country would talk that way is incomprehensible to me. Before Trump, this rhetoric by our leader was unheard of. Absolutely frightening that anyone in a position of responsibility would say this.

    “Authoritarianism is a slip and a slide, inch by inch, as a leader slowly backs an SUV over the republic of which the citizens handed him control. The goal is to move the window of what is acceptable to talk about slowly but decisively, until what you talked about becomes something that can be done.”

    I never dreamed that I would hear the things I am hearing in this country. Apparently the road to totalitarianism is easier to travel than I thought. Put the current state of politics together with the many crises which will inevitably develop from Climate Change, and you have a recipe for a complete Clusterfuck. The title of this blog may well be proven to be prophetic before it’s over. It don’t look good, folks.

    • seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 1:11 pm #

      It is alarming. Almost Brown shirts. In fact I’m surprised no one has made that connection, considering how he’s always talking about cracking heads at his rallies and how “People like that would have been carried out.” Very much like the National Socialist rallies of Adolf Hitler. The thing that is really scary is what will happen if this guy doesn’t leave? His base thinks everything that comes out of his mouth is pure gold. If he says the election was rigged they just might believe him. Ah well maybe it’s time we split up. The blue states have been carrying the red states for so long now it’s almost embarrassing. What would it take? Split the Fed, split the debt. Keep the same currency, the same military. We make our laws, they make their’s. If they want a wall, let em build it. We don’t care. We’re not paying for it. It’ll be the American Union. Maybe split it into 6 regions. New England. The South. The Rust Belt. Texas/OK/NM. The Plain States. The Left Coast. Anyone attacks any of the states we come to the rescue. Otherwise we co-exist peacefully. Live and let live. Estonia is the wealthiest of the former Soviet states and has a thriving electronics business. Tajikistan is the poorest and went through a protracted civil war after the breakup. I would think we would avoid that. Since we’re a service economy, we’re all in the same boat. No one likes this anymore. This way we’re still the United States, but instead of 50 we’re only 6 anymore. Think of the efficiency pop we would get right off the bat. 6 government instead of 50. Re-organize the congress. The Plains States would probably be the poorest. They would screw it up.

      • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 6:24 pm #

        Keep the currency and the military? Surely you jest! Those are the two things that need to be disposed of FIRST! The collapse of the former (coming soon) will be the event that drives the dissolution of the empire. It’ll be funny as hell too, because a lot of the “correct” liberals in their east coast sanctuaries will find out the hard way that they’re not nearly “correct” enough for what’s going to emerge. As in, any new digital currency to come won’t be distributed evenly, and without it, you’ll banished to the wilderness with the rest of us.

    • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 6:32 pm #

      Really Captain, has anybody ever threatened President Trump, or his supporters, with violence?

      Or is it only supposed to work one way, not both ways?

      Brh

      • capt spaulding March 18, 2019 at 8:06 pm #

        I guess you missed the point BRH, I find the talk of potential violence to be alarming and wrong, regardless of the political affiliations of the source. I consider myself a moderate, but it’s not hard to see where this kind of bullshit is headed if it keeps up. I don’t wanna see the kind of shit I saw overseas happening here. I get the impression that you are trying to justify Trump’s rhetoric by saying “Well they did it first.”, which then makes whatever you or someone else does in response all right, which is a recipe for madness.

        Watching this situation go down, reminds me of reading about Jim Jones and the people’s temple. Standing on the outside and neutrally observing the descent into madness, right up to the kool aid. I feel the same way when I read the news every day here in this country, and I honestly think we are being led by a megalomaniac. The solution is to vote him out, and replace him with somebody normal, whoever that might be. When they’re passing out the kool aid, I’ll be at home.

        • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:55 am #

          Um you specifically said this was unheard of before Trump so I don’t think you remember Obama encouraging beating people up and stoking racial tensions. I remember it very well.

    • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:52 am #

      So the continual calls for violence against Trump supporters and administration officials by Congressional leaders like Maxine Waters is not as serious?

      • benr March 21, 2019 at 11:24 am #

        That requires turning off CNN and msnbc and listening to all the fine podcasts from centrist and right of center hosts.
        Many of the centrists and lefties will never hear the truth because all they listen to is the party line full of lies and propaganda.

  25. RZ March 18, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

    The right had plenty of opportunities to change or clarify immigration policy. The fuzziness suits them just fine. Immigrants are easier to exploit that way. Driving down wages is the point. Shooters go after the immigrants but not the ones who set policy. That’s why they don’t care one bit about white terrorism.

    • volodya March 18, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

      All of the above is exactly right.

      If the targets of Muslim terrorist attacks were billionaires and politicians, America would be closed to Muslims, without any apology or any rhetorical back-flips. They’d just say that they can’t separate the good apples from the bad so all the apples will be banned. It’s a public safety issue, they’d say.

      But terrorism, no matter the source, provides the justification for surveillance and repression. It gives the surveillance state the reason for its existence.

  26. RIB March 18, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

    To take Donald Trump literally is ridiculous. Not to take him seriously is merely dangerous.

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

      He (the Orange one) is a disturbed person. To take him anyway at all is a fool’s errand.

      • benr March 21, 2019 at 11:25 am #

        Yet he is somehow two steps ahead of people whop hate him.

  27. RB March 18, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

    There was not this much excitement when a squad size team of Moslems took down the towers, a piece of the Pentagon and 3 airplanes. One must assume that Mr. Trump is the catalyst for much ado about little or nothing regardless of his innocence. There is likely another McVeigh out there with eyes on the prize too. We are wallowing in ugly and there is no way to fix human nature which is a nature of destruction including self-destruction. “Can’t we just along?”

    NO.

    When the left takes over the government it will get worse.

    Bit of irony for the rich who thought NZ was paradise. Always a serpent in the best of gardens.

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

      It’s a real paradise with the RIGHT WING in power, isn’t it? Nice place they’ve made here. Can you say “played for a big fat sucker?”

      • JohnAZ March 18, 2019 at 3:02 pm #

        What?

        The Left wing is in power in DC and always has been. Leftist RINOs have emasculated Trump in the Senate and the House, well everyone knows what a nest of fools that place is. Leftist judiciary controls the courts over most of the country.

        Now Jeb Bush wants someone, wink wink, to run against Trump from the GOP because he is not Conservative enough.

        Right wing in power, my butt.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

          Mussolini himself wouldn’t be right wing enough for you John. Come on now, you’re so far right, you’re almost left!

          • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 6:15 pm #

            LOL! Nice line.

          • benr March 21, 2019 at 11:27 am #

            And you think your not a communist the hutzpah on you.

      • RB March 18, 2019 at 3:08 pm #

        I am not sure what your point is. Trump is hardly right wing. His history of donations to politics also includes democrats. His ego got into the race having been baited by saint obama. He never expected to win. Even the ruskies could not have pulled that one off. Trump took shots at his opponents. He was blunt, unmerciful including with HRC. He was the guy saying stuff that many others wish they could say out of sheer frustration with the national direction. He played to that whether he believed it or not. Any president would be hanging out to dry if the media went after them the way it has with Trump who essentially asked for it. It is unfortunate for the country that the two possible worst candidates in history were running simultaneously. It appears we will have a replay of 2016 in 2020. For the record, I voted for the libertarian. Trump’s presidency has not damaged me in the slightest which is one advantage of being old and retired.

        What do you think paradise ought to look like in Amerika? Free pot? Opioids for everyone? A borderless country where any diseased, no skills, possibly criminal person can just walk into? You might really like the Cuban paradise. Remember the famous boat lift out of there when Carter said, “y’all come”. Cuba sent their criminals with it.

        Again, what is your point?

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:23 pm #

          You are correct: he has no ideology other than “if it is good for Trump then it is good. If it is not good for Trump, then it is bad. Period.”

          >>> “What do you think paradise ought to look like in Amerika?”

          How about not molly coddling the rich for starters? How about not giving the 1%’ers tax breaks at the expense of the rest of us? How bought health care that everyone can afford? How about an infrastructure that isn’t turning into the bloody third world? How about a government that is NOT run for and by the rich and corporations through lobbying? How about a decent standard of living for the middle class and not just the “wealthy” parasites?

          I could live with those for starters. How about the rest of you?

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:25 pm #

            By the way, let me amend what I said. Trump is not a Right Winger, he is merely a TOOL of the Right Wing. Sorry and thanks for allowing me to clarify.

          • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:26 pm #

            Also, how about not having to read about some bunch of kids, worshippers or concert goers getting shot-up on any given f@&king day? Is that asking too much?

          • RB March 18, 2019 at 6:14 pm #

            JD, Paradise is one thing, fantasyland is another. The rich have always ruled everywhere. It is the nature of humankind. A middle class is an anomaly post WWII. We are headed back into the norm where the gilded age rich own almost everything and a small middle class get squeezed between rich and vast numbers of poor, lower class. Instead of understanding who the enemy of the people really are which are the rich, they focus on white males as the culprit behind all of society’s woes. Break the white males and paradise will come into being. After all, we must have a scapegoat and white males will do. America’s woes existed long before Trump and will continue after he becomes a footnote in a history book which no one will read. The American Dream is getting rich just like the Clintons did and the Obamas.

            My point is THINGS WILL GET WORSE REGARDLESS OF WHAT PERSONALITY OCCUPIES THE WHITE HOUSE. There will never be peace. The pie has been sliced and the part left for most of humanity ain’t big enough.

          • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 10:56 pm #

            JD, Finally an actual argument. I’m impressed!

            I’m happy to respond factually to all of the following, because they have been on my mind a great deal as well.

            “How about not molly coddling the rich for starters?”

            I agree. We need an economic playing field that is fair for all.

            “How about not giving the 1%’ers tax breaks at the expense of the rest of us?”

            Again, I agree completely. I don’t know where you live JD, but here in Washington state we have the worst tax policy in the country. That’s the expert opinion and not my own, but I can tell you the taxes are bad. That tax policy unfairly burdens the poor, and favors the rich just based on how is structured. I have lived in this state my whole life and I am unaware of any time that it has not been run by the democrats. The dems fucked this state with high taxes and excessive regulations. It is a hard state to do business in and the homeless are every where. If you want to see government mismanagement look no further than Seattle – run by democrats.

            “How bought health care that everyone can afford?”

            Every one I know had affordable health care before Obama care.

            “How about an infrastructure that isn’t turning into the bloody third world?”

            Again, I look at how my own state is mismanaged. We have the second highest fuel tax in country, but according to the experts 1/3rd of our roads are not properly paved and nearly 400 of our bridges are structurally deficient….. But it’s all the republicans fault?? I’d love to know what Trump had to do with that.

            “How about a government that is NOT run for and by the rich and corporations through lobbying?”

            Again, I agree. And both sides are guilty.

            “How about a decent standard of living for the middle class and not just the “wealthy” parasites?”

            As I said before, I don’t know where you live, but here in Washington it’s bad tax and economic policy originating from idealistic leftists causing that problem.

          • Farmer Joe March 18, 2019 at 11:50 pm #

            And for the record, JD, based on the way I’ve seen you interact today with the other characters on this forum, I’m not impressed. All you managed to do with your hostility is alienate me further from your cause.

          • elysianfield March 19, 2019 at 11:31 am #

            ” How about an infrastructure that isn’t turning into the bloody third world? How about a government that is NOT run for and by the rich and corporations through lobbying? How about a decent standard of living for the middle class and not just the “wealthy” parasites?”

            JD,
            Yeah, and how about babies not being born with crooked backs, and no more wars?

            The train of rational thought and action has long left the station….

          • benr March 21, 2019 at 11:31 am #

            You fail in not understanding the 1% is YOU and me and the bum begging for change on the street!
            Even our poor have big screen t.v.s!
            You simply don’t get you have bought the lies of Democrats who are part of the problem they push for all the same crap you are against while pretending to push crumbs to the working class dopes and do nothings that support them!
            Why do you think so many Democrats are part of the .50% of the global elite?

    • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 2:35 pm #

      Good point, RB.

      NZ is the sanctuary the billionaire and lefty Hollywood elites were fleeing to to escape from Trump and his deplorables in flyover country.

      And they have the private luxury jet aircraft to get themselves there, don’t think they don’t!

      Haha now where they gonna go?

      Brh

      • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:29 pm #

        Of course they do! Who do you think loves that kind of shit? Right Wing Republicans is who loves that dripping in wealth shit! Just look at the breaks they give them and how they kiss their arses! Hear much talk of “fiscal responsibility” anymore? Of course you don’t, because the rich are feeding at the trough and the Rs love it!

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 3:06 pm #

      It’s a well known refuge of the Super Elite who plan to go there and to Australia, etc when the World goes to Hell. They’ll come back to clean up and take over.

      • RB March 18, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

        Forget Australia. It has about every venomous snake in the world there and also a bad spider that has the run of the place. Mainly though, one day a vast Chinese fleet is going to show up on their coast and “suggest” the Aussies take in say 300 million or so. NZ in the same situation. It has been the USA that has held things together. That is ending I hope because this country is broke. Way past time to tell the Pentagon NO MORE. The waste, fraud and outright incompetence is killing the country that the asses across the Potomac are supposed to be defending.

        • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

          Oh ya China, the wild card.

          NZ and Australia (ANZACS) were good fighters a century ago. Once the Red Army comes a callin’ on 250 Chinese ships flanked by their Elite Marine Division we’ll see if ANZACS are good fighters still.

          Or have they been de balled just enough by PC western culture, white guilt, and #metoo — like Great Britain has — to bend over and take it hard.

          Brh

          • malthuss March 18, 2019 at 4:05 pm #

            NZ is nuke free….Au may have nukes to drop on invading armies.

    • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 4:52 pm #

      “There was not this much excitement when a squad size team of Moslems took down the towers, a piece of the Pentagon and 3 airplanes.”

      Really? It was never off the news over here. Then the anniversaries. Which you’d expect. And there was a war over it, I vaguely recall, albeit aimed at the wrong country, but you can’t get everything right.

    • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:44 am #

      And just as there are more McVeighs waiting in the wings so are there more Islamic radicals. The root causes of the extremism are not being dealt with adequately.

  28. mow March 18, 2019 at 1:15 pm #

    We the Sheeple …

  29. Elrond Hubbard March 18, 2019 at 1:15 pm #

    The Pentagon’s Bottomless Money Pit
    When the Defense Department flunked its first-ever fiscal review, one of our government’s greatest mysteries was exposed: Where does the DoD’s $700 billion annual budget go?

    rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/pentagon-budget-mystery-807276/

    “‘What kind of an organization … doesn’t keep track of $20 billion in inventory?’

    “Despite being the taxpayers’ greatest investment — more than $700 billion a year — the Department of Defense has remained an organizational black box throughout its history. It’s repelled generations of official inquiries, the latest being an audit three decades in the making, mainly by scrambling its accounting into such a mess that it may never be untangled.

    “Ahead of misappropriation, fraud, theft, overruns, contracting corruption and other abuses that are almost certainly still going on, the Pentagon’s first problem is its books. It’s the world’s largest producer of wrong numbers, an ingenious bureaucratic defense system that hides all the other rats’ nests underneath. Meet the Gordian knot of legend, brought to life in modern America.”

    A long read, but well worth it. If you want a visual, the video game Katamari Damacy might do it. Just picture a giant ball of garbage, rolling merrily along, picking up more garbage as it goes unstoppably on its way, until it all collapses into a black hole from which no information can escape.

    • fugeguy March 18, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

      And in the off chance they are caught stealing money they just declare the issue is “national security.”

      A real life get out of jail free card.

    • RB March 18, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

      However bad we think it is, it is worse. The so called superpower is a facade. One day the bluff is going to be called and it will be really ugly.

  30. marcus1 March 18, 2019 at 1:26 pm #

    This crazy f*&K in NZ has more in common with Charlie Manson (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helter_Skelter_(scenario)) than any national majority consensus on immigration or the obsession of gun rights.

    Any group or individual that thinks they’ll have a better result than the family on Ruby Ridge or some crazy gun-obsessed f*&k in a convenience store parking lot, are free to give it a try.

    GGG is just a bad fart in the theater that disturbs the gentry and delights the rabble. The foul smell will probably be expelled in the next election cycle. If not, I have faith in the patience of the gentry to tolerate incivility more than I have faith in the rabble to think and plan strategically.

    The real injustice is done. Convince the rabble that its better to spend 10x the amount of most other countries on incarceration, rather than than educating your children, because child care and early education is socialism, don’t cha know. Transfer the wealth from the middle class to the wealthy, because that’s really just good old Merican Capitalism, ain’t it? The deck is marked and stacked against the rabble and it ain’t the “lefties” that did the cheating, but that’s just another age-old tactic–divide and conquer–and we’re conquered.

  31. seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

    Friday’s killings at two mosques in Christchurch were recorded and posted to social media channels around the world as part of a plan that was seemingly designed to spread the footage online. As the footage made its way around the internet, it was reuploaded repeatedly. Yesterday, Facebook said it removed 1.5 million videos of the attack in the first 24 hours after the shooting.
    Social Media, the tool of serial killers everywhere.

    • JohnAZ March 18, 2019 at 3:03 pm #

      Absolutely correct!!

    • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 6:13 pm #

      And agent provocateurs as well.

  32. revilo March 18, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

    “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government…citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.”
    – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

    • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 2:17 pm #

      Great words….. for the Eighteenth century. The arms are too different now. Pea shooters versus bazookas, as it were. Progress, it’s a bitch, yeah?

      • revilo March 18, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

        Sorry, those words are timeless.

        And progress is a myth. Sorry.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:30 pm #

          If you say so….

          • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:35 am #

            Progress is definitely a myth.

      • revilo March 18, 2019 at 2:23 pm #

        BTW…did anyone find the pot of gold?

      • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

        Ancients tyrannies took away swords so he’s right and you’re wrong.

        The day of taking Whites for granted is over. Just like politicians used to cater to the Irish, the Italians, etc, they will know have to cater to Whites who have coalesced into an Ummah or Super Tribe. Still national at this point, but hopefully becoming International. If they don’t, it will go hard on them. Ditto the Globalists.

        • jdhines March 18, 2019 at 3:54 pm #

          Right, I know.

          • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 4:21 pm #

            JD, you sound a lot like another Poaster here who likes to shill for the NYT. (Who mysteriously is absent today) Might that be you?

            Brh

        • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:34 am #

          Hmmm a White Super Tribe. Very interesting.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 19, 2019 at 1:23 am #

            History is written by the Winners. If we come thru, this man will be seen as a hero. Or do you think that our Heroes never killed “innocent” enemies? George Washington was a famous Indian Fighter. Andrew Jackson? Don’t even ask….

            Liberalism is the drum beat of Western Suicide. Fundamentally we can’t talk with these people because we don’t share the same premises. They want us gone. We want to stay. There is no overlap at the most basic basics, or the starting point. If they are White, like Alba, they are into ethnomasochism and racial suicide for “moral” reasons, lol.

          • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 11:45 am #

            Well I guess innocent people die in any war or conflict really. I don’t really like it but it is a fact of life. I suppose that is why I feel like I can’t get through to many here. Because we are not even coming at the issue from the same starting point. That is a good point. I wish I would have seen your post here earlier as I started getting into it down thread. But I see what you are saying. If you are not coming from the same place in your mind and heart as another person then communication and understanding just isn’t really going to happen. Despite how much you wish it would or could.

          • jdhines March 19, 2019 at 12:02 pm #

            You mean snack cakes? No, I’m just me. Look at the styles, just too different. Lil’ Debbie is far more articulate and nuanced than I am.

    • benr March 21, 2019 at 11:37 am #

      Those darn federalist papers!
      How dare they actually out line reality when Gubberment gets out of control and starts shredding the Constitution and the Bill of rights.
      Remember dear people that some of us swore an oath to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and DOMESTIC.

  33. wm5135 March 18, 2019 at 3:26 pm #

    In the near constant hyperbolic definition of the other little thought is given to what the actual coalition that would do the fighting and create a state of order would look like. Everyone should re-read fugeguy’s first comment of today. Those that WILL carry the day will not be composed of beligerent look at me assholes with a half baked reactionary political agenda.

    Want some idea of how things would shake out and why we should make every attempt to put our house in order? The French Revolution and the breakdown of social mores and the accompanying horrors is probably the best model to examine.

    Janos ol Scratch is the one who “get’s it”. Who is more outraged the right because of MSM portrayal of events or the left because of the nature of the events? That question is of little import because both sides are outraged and as Sonny and Cher obeserved “The Beat Goes On”.

    • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 6:11 pm #

      Thanks wm. I’ll just say this, in the odd event that Friday’s event WASN’T a false flag/facilitated event, the Deep State boys running these things should pay the shooter handsomely for his contributions to their cause. He ticked all the boxes for effectiveness with this one.

      • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:32 am #

        Interesting theory you have. In some sense it all goes back to the Deep State whether it was facilitated or not. They control borders as much as they control anything else IMO.

  34. seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 4:01 pm #

    Railing at a dead man and television reruns.
    Modern day Richard Nixon.?

  35. Pucker March 18, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

    Get your teenage kids addicted to OxyContin and then cheaper black tar heroin. Hire a bunch of dodgy temporary doctors needing a job and open a “Pill Mill” in rural small town America. Get on SSI so that you can get a Medicaid card to buy OxyContin and then sell it to third parties for thousands of bucks.

    Get the old people in on it to sell their pills to young kids.

    It seems that a big part of the opiate economy in rural America is WalMart. People shoplift merchandise from WalMart and trade the goods from WalMart for OxyContin at a 50% discount. (The old fart “Greeters” at WalMart turn a blind eye to the blatant theft because they only get paid $10 bucks an hour, and they aren’t going to confront some deranged desperate opioid addict.) So that if, for example, a Black & Decker Power saw sells for $60 bucks at WalMart the shoplifter can barter it for a 30 mg OxyContin Pill. The going black market rate for OxyContin is $1.00 per each milligram, so that a 30 milligram OxyContin Pill sells for $30 bucks. In some places OxyContin has become an alternative currency to the US dollar. It’s like one of those futuristic James Howard Kunstler post-Collapse novels.

    Sam Quinones
    Dreamland: The True Tale of America’s Opiate Epidemic

    • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 6:07 pm #

      I made a comment on another blog a few years back speculating that eventually recreational pharmaceuticals would be essentially legalized as a final way for anesthetizing and eventually euthanizing large portions of the population. Of course I had no way of knowing at the time exactly how that would come about, but it looks like the prediction was right on the money. This is what collapse looks like, especially when it’s happening to you and yours.

  36. Pucker March 18, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

    A key piece part of the Mexican’s business model for selling Black Tar Heroin to white kids in middle America is open Immigration and a porous border with Mexico so that the heroin traffickers have an abundant supply of impoverished teenage Mexican “runners” willing to drive around all day with their mouths stuffed full of balloons each filled with a tenth of a gram of heroin (“Chiva”). When the cops arrest and deport the Mexican Drivers, there is an endless supply of new drivers willing to work for $500 bucks a week, learn the business and then start their own heroin franchises in other US small towns.

    The US politicians are so disconnected and corrupt that they don’t know what’s going on and they don’t care.

    Sam Quinones
    Dreamland: The True Tale of America’s Opiate Epidemic

  37. SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 4:18 pm #

    The Western Elite and political establishment ultimately bear the blame for this event in my opinion. As they continue to ignore the plight of native born Whites the situation will only grow more dire. Both the Left and the Right of the spectrum are involved in this and are to blame. They have all enriched themselves destroying our countries with unlimited immigration and refugees. They want the cheap labor. They want an uneducated, easily manipulated underclass for votes. And ultimately they want to replace native-born populations. These are not secrets. And the backlash these policies eventually produce should come as no surprise either.

    Ending all immigration and ending all migration is a good start to a new day. It’s pretty clear the Elite won’t listen. And I am fairly certain they still don’t care. In their world people are just numbers. Expendable units that move from one column to another on a screen. Who cares what the real world looks like. And yet shock and horror when it is seen in real time. My guess is they will actually up the ante by increasing immigration, increasing refugee flows, and pursue further economic and political disenfranchisement of native born Whites.

    • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 5:03 pm #

      “The Western Elite and political establishment ultimately bear the blame for this event in my opinion. ”

      So, who ultimately bears the blame for the murders committed by Jihadists? The Crusaders?

      The person to blame for what happened in NZ was the terrorist. Likewise the Islamist terrorists in the UK, France and Belgium.

      In my opinion.

      • SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 5:09 pm #

        Of course they are all responsible for their actions. I agree with you completely in that. However, I do think it is important to understand how these people are shaped and molded by events around them, as well as the contexts in which they live. Again, not to give them excuses. But I do think we would be dishonest to not consider their grievances as potentially legitimate building blocks of their world views. We do the same thing for serial killers. Why are they doing what they do and what led them to this point.

        • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 8:00 pm #

          “But I do think we would be dishonest to not consider their grievances as potentially legitimate building blocks of their world views.”

          So do you do that for the Jihadi terrorists? I don’t. Fuck their grievances. You have grievances? You present them verbally. The Imams in London refused to bury them with Muslim protocol after the last attack beside the Thames. And that’s a big deal for Muslims. Good for them. No excuses.

          • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 8:03 pm #

            And I do believe the Muslim world has valid grievances against the West for its eternal meddling. But I still don’t give the terrorists an iota of a smidgeon of an excuse for killing people who have nothing to do with that.

            And that shit in NZ shot children. One was three, another was four. I believe there were several under the age of six.

            No excuses.

          • capt spaulding March 18, 2019 at 8:19 pm #

            Alba, I think if you go far enough back in history, you find that just about everybody acted like assholes at one point or another, including Muslims. Singling any group out for blame is pointless, since that behavior seems to be what humans do constantly.

          • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 8:19 pm #

            AND I HOPE THE LYING TOAD TAKES NOTE.

          • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 8:26 pm #

            I quite agree, capt spaulding. Barbary pirates took a whole Irish coastal village into slavery one time – every last one of them. Never seen again.

            And the West has been meddling in the Arab world for its own reasons – religious (crusades), then economic (oil) and people whose families have been killed by drones while celebrating weddings have every right to feel more aggrieved than I can even imagine, because nothing evil like that has ever happened to me.

            But there is no human being who has an excuse for not knowing that the response to that is not to shoot innocent people enjoying an evening out by the Thames, or families praying in a mosque.

            But basically I agree with you. Just venting a bit more!

          • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 10:37 pm #

            Right. And evening out on the river or an evening at the Mosque. Same thing?

            There are or at least were videos of the Islamic State having little boys execute prisoners. And you got all mad at me for quoting Mohammad about trannies (ignoring the fact that I was quoting), yet you want this religion to colonize the West. Face it, you are all about reaction against Us, but in itself, your ideas don’t make a lick of sense. Completely incoherent per se, the only principle being whatever can hurt the West the most is the best thing.

          • SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 11:08 pm #

            You missed the point. I am not making excuses for anyone. What I am saying is that some of their grievances are legit. Whether it is drone strikes on civilians in the Middle East that enrage Muslims or a suicide bombing by a refugee in London that enrages Westerners. The overall point being that negative consequences of social policies and political decisions often become reasons to extreme people to do extreme things. And in many cases society could have taken steps to prevent it.

          • SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 11:09 pm #

            Banning immigration is a great start.

          • GreenAlba March 19, 2019 at 6:07 am #

            “Right. And evening out on the river or an evening at the Mosque. Same thing?”

            In the context of having the right to do it without being murdered, yes, entirely. The NZ terrorist chose to kill people (including tiny children) doing something he hated and feared – how dare they? The Jihadis choose people doing things they hate – enjoying themselves with no reference to ‘Allah’ – how dare they?

            “There are or at least were videos of the Islamic State having little boys execute prisoners.”

            So you are basically telling me the terrorist, in addition to being evil, is also stupid. Given that he can’t distinguish between moral agents.

            And you got all mad at me for quoting Mohammad about trannies (ignoring the fact that I was quoting)…

            No idea what you’re talking about, but you do have a habit of making stuff up. Either that or your memory and your comprehension are appalling. I wouldn’t know.

            “yet you want this religion to colonize the West.

            Lying toad lies again.

            Face it, you are all about reaction against Us, but in itself, your ideas don’t make a lick of sense. Completely incoherent per se, the only principle being whatever can hurt the West the most is the best thing.

            Lying toad or slow on the uptake. You choose.

        • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 8:42 pm #

          “We do the same thing for serial killers. ”

          We? You can make whatever excuses you like for serial killers, but please leave me out of it.

          • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

            GA, are you familiar with Chesterson’s poem about the Battle of Lepanto (1571)? The fate of the west hung in the balance. What was Islam doing invading Italy, Venice and Rome. Lepanto, Tours, Muslim corsairs cruising the coastline of Europe all the way to the North Sea kidnapping coastal villagers into white slavery, who then was meddling in whos affairs?

            It seems whoever is against us, that’s who you’re for. Stalin was the choice in 1950, Mao in 1960, Ho in 1970. Is that pretty much the size of it?

            brh

          • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 9:29 pm #

            Have you actually ready my fucking posts? Sorry, brh, but really I think some people on here are actually blind.

            Please refer me to any post of mine ever in favour of Stalin, Mao or Ho. Or apologise,

            You’re just pissed off because you didn’t get away with making up the story about the 130 Coptic Christians in Nigeria.

            Or rather getting it from the website we both know you got it from.

          • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 9:30 pm #

            *read*

            You’d try the patience of a saint.

          • SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 11:17 pm #

            Again you miss the point entirely. My point is we go through great efforts to understand serial killers. Think of all the books and movies made about them. We need to understand what makes lone wolves and terrorists. Political terrorists have reasons in their own minds as to why they do what they do. Again some of their grievances are real issues and problems. I am not justifying their actions or excusing them. But what could society have done to prevent it if anything?

          • GreenAlba March 19, 2019 at 6:14 am #

            “My point is we go through great efforts to understand serial killers. Think of all the books and movies made about them. ”

            Yes, we’ve noticed that Americans are nothing short of obsessed with serial killers. However, I’d say the films tend not to be about ‘great efforts to understand them’, but rather about gratuitously scaring the shit out of people, to the point where most of them think there are way more serial killers than there actually are.

            But if you want to put out a questionnaire to the American public to establish the in-depth understanding they’ve gained of the psyche of the serial killer, please feel free.

          • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 9:57 am #

            LOL that is funny Alba, you are entertaining when you get on a roll that is for sure. I’ll begin a draft of the questionnaire today :-).

      • Majella March 18, 2019 at 7:19 pm #

        Green Alba – indeed.

        He’s either just a crazy nut-job, or a deluded fool who has been duped by arguments such as those promulgated by Janos. (Also, he’s actually Australian.)

  38. seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 4:31 pm #

    It is like an episode of “The Twilight Zone,” sometimes coming here. Imagine if you will a Muslim TERRORIST, that’s right I said TERRORIST not terrorist since the term has been so enflamed it deserves all caps like one of Trump’s more bizarre tweets where he is rails against SNL or teen acne, a Muslim TERRORIST walks into a Catholic Church and shoots 100 white people in the Deep South. He purposely avoids shooting black people or brown people or green people or purple people. His name is Kahleed Sheek Mohammed and he looks like Fareed Zachira except with bad teeth and a black patch on one eye. He cannot stop chanting “Death to White America,” and he drools when he says “white”. There would be another national emergency. There would be a national address. There would be a mobilization of the National Guard. But instead we had a white terrorist. A white terrorist. A white terrorist. Would Trump pay a white terrorist’s legal bills? That is the question.

    • SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 5:03 pm #

      That isn’t true and you know it seawolf. But you get a gold start for embellishment and exaggeration. Again there are something like 36 ongoing national emergencies btw. And Congress is doing its best to nix Trump’s emergency despite the overwhelming public support for border barriers and tighter immigration controls.

    • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 6:01 pm #

      You almost get it, but as usual stop short to take potshots at your favorite villain. These so-called “terrorists” of which you speak are political actors first and foremost, some whether they know it or not, and most are not at all what they seem. But it’s not Trump who’s facilitating their lunacy. Look deeper, grasshopper, and you will find the truth. It’s all out there, hiding in plain sight.

  39. BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 4:39 pm #

    Meanwhile, Paris is burning, and Algeria is ready to blow.

    Brh

    • SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 5:04 pm #

      Notice how the Yellow Vests have conveniently disappeared from most of the news cycle. Yet as you say. Paris burns.

      • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 7:42 pm #

        bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47609978

        BBC Six hours ago

        dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6821507/French-police-use-resort-chemical-weapon-Yellow-Vest-protesters…

        Daily Mail 13 hours ago

        edition.cnn.com/2019/03/18/europe/yellow-vest-ban-demonstrations-intl/index.html

        CNN Two hours ago.

        I could go on. All I did was search ‘yellow vests’ and up they popped. You could have done the same. There were more, but why should I do your work for you?

        Really, SSL, why do you persist in telling us what the MSM aren’t covering when you don’t even take the time to look at what they’re covering?

        Could it be that you have…an agenda?

        Or that you just lie?

        • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 7:42 pm #

          Or both?

          • SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 11:28 pm #

            Gee excuse me Alba. I should have stated that the yellow vests seemed to have dropped out of the news on the sites I check. I didn’t mention the MSM in my comment to Brh. Deep breaths!

          • GreenAlba March 19, 2019 at 6:20 am #

            You said ‘most of the news cycle’. What’s the news cycle? And what constitutes most of it?

            If you’re going to use terms like that as some sort of accusation, then perhaps you should clarify exactly what you mean, rather than using pointless phrases.

            And you didn’t say ‘seem’. You said ‘conveniently dropped out of…’ suggesting an intention to hide pertinent information.

            “Gee excuse me Alba”

            Fine, you are excused. Try to be clearer next time.

          • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 9:56 am #

            Yes teacher!! I will attempt to do better next time ;-).

        • malthuss March 19, 2019 at 8:03 pm #

          If SSL is in USA [I recall her mentioning living here]
          I assume she means all BIG 6 covering it, as it is major news.

          • SoftStarLight March 20, 2019 at 10:47 pm #

            I’m here. I don’t watch the big six though.

    • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 5:52 pm #

      Feels like the sweet smell of revolution is in the air again!

      • montsegur March 19, 2019 at 6:08 am #

        Followed by the fetid odor of death.

        Why is this age worse than earlier ages?
        In a stupor of grief and dread
        Have we not fingered the foulest wounds
        And left them unhealed by our hands?

        In the west the falling light still glows,
        And the clustered housetops glitter in the sun,
        But here Death is already chalking the doors with crosses,
        And calling the ravens, and the ravens are flying in.
        — Anna Akhmatova, “Why is this Age Worse?”

        Cheers

  40. Pucker March 18, 2019 at 5:00 pm #

    Apparently, the Mexican Xalisco heroin distributors stay clear of Philadelphia because they’re afraid of black people. The Mexicans prefer to sell to white people.

    We should make killing Mexican kids who run heroin “Justfiable Homicide” and then let the white males clean up their communities in self defense?

    • Pucker March 18, 2019 at 5:09 pm #

      The government is in on it so the solution may default to “Self Help”? Maybe we need to turn a blind eye to people who late at night toss a Molotov cocktail through the window of an OxyContin “Pill Mill”. Do you remember the movie “Three Billboards”?

  41. OccamsBeard March 18, 2019 at 5:19 pm #

    This shooting was crazy. Thanks for the perspective, Jim.

    TraffickingInDivinity.com

  42. Pucker March 18, 2019 at 5:25 pm #

    Be sure to save your WalMart receipt since you can then sell it to a heroin junkie for Cash.

    “People in Portsmouth opened stores in their apartments, specializing in certain products, most of which they stole from Walmart: garden supplies, tools, automotive equipment. One recovering addict told me he visited the apartment of a woman who stocked everything a baby needed. “She had a bedroom you could go into set up like a store, diapers in one corner, baby food and formula, clothes on a dresser like a display table,” he said. “Then she’d have boxes of high chairs and strollers. She would go into Walmart to steal shit; or she’d have people go in there with orders and they’d deliver it to her.” Walmart, for a long time, did not require a receipt for returned goods. Anything stolen could be returned for a gift card for the full value of the merchandise. Dealers bought those cards for half their value in pills. A five-hundred-dollar Walmart card was worth three OxyContin 80s—for which the dealer had paid a few dollars with the Medicaid card scam. A vast trade in Walmart cards kept Portsmouth’s army of pill dealers in household necessities. A Walmart receipt, meanwhile, could get you cash. Junkies scoured Walmart parking lots for discarded receipts. They’d steal the items on a receipt, flashing the paper at the greeter as they left. Then they’d return the merchandise, with the receipt, and exchange it for cash.“

    Sam Quinones
    Dreamland: The True Tale of America’s Opiate Epidemic

    • Ol' Scratch March 18, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

      Who says poor people aren’t opportunistic!

      • capt spaulding March 18, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

        I call them entrepreneurs.

  43. 100th Avatar March 18, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

    “…he lays out matters that should be extremely troubling to all Americans: that the land is full of men with tremendous potential for violence”

    And who are these men with all this potential?

    Well, if history is an indicator, they are the advanced civilizations, the highly civilized, entered into an uncivilized state.

    Imperial Japan, post empire Germany, post Edwardian era UK, the New Imperialist era of TR’s USA, etc.

    But we have nothing to fear really. These were nations fighting for their people and their way of life. Those days are far long gone in all but one of the examples above.

    Nobody here is fighting for a nation. They are waging imperialistic wars for a state. In fact, you should have your head examined if you enlist or let a loved-one pursue some basic training or war college contract. Absolute insanity to be selling your life over to this corrupt state on a war contract.

    But we must examine why people do it? You’ll always have the jingoist ‘murican hillbilly types that are so ignorant that they feel compelled out of duty because grandpa and pa served. You have the lower middle-class and working class types that were never accomplished students and have no real trajectory beyond huffing out of a paperboy behind Home Depot. Next, you have the permanent residents that want the quick path to citizenry or at least a GI Bill and some blue collar training (fixing things).

    A volunteer army, particularly one for an immoral and highly corrupt state needs dregs.

    Funny how they always find ways to make them, isn’t it?

    • AKlein March 18, 2019 at 6:31 pm #

      By 150 AD the Roman Empire no longer had need of the patriotism of the masses. They already owned much of the then known world. In fact, they no longer wanted that patriotism because such want might be interpreted as their owing something to those selfsame masses. The latifundia, again around 150 AD, of rural Italy were depopulated because grain was being imported from north Africa, other foodstuffs from other parts of the empire, and there was much less need for farm workers. The rural populace migrated to the cities, especially Rome, and got some kind of employment or got on the dole. Many of the rural towns were devoid of population, so the chroniclers of the late empire wrote. Also, by that time, circa 150 AD, all the old guard patrician families of the old Roman republic had died out. Sic transit gloria mundi. Draw associations as may occur to you.

    • elysianfield March 19, 2019 at 11:48 am #

      ” so ignorant that they feel compelled out of duty because grandpa and pa served….”

      Avatar,

      So dismissive of patriotic feeling…does this give you solace? Perhaps you never served?

      “What did you do in the war, daddy?”

      • 100th Avatar March 19, 2019 at 3:21 pm #

        Absolutely.

        I am dismissive of feelings.

        Particularly the hidebound feelings of allegiances.

        People confound revolutionary soldiers from the 18th century with today’s imperialist pawns.

        “Fightin’ for your freedom” “Protecting your rights and liberty”

        Total and utter bollocks.

        But this is where the deep cowardice lies. Not in the man that turns away, rightly, from this counterfeit “duty”, but the man that forces himself to believe that his loss of limb, mind, or truth from Korea to Vietnam to Iraq and Afghanistan, and Iraq again was for something. That it meant something.

        Because owning up to the fact that it was all for naught, all or politicians, all for the war machine takes the courage they never had when they signed their lives away.

        • 100th Avatar March 19, 2019 at 3:32 pm #

          Romney took a religious sabbatical… in France. Trump deferred. Clinton as well. Cheney too. Ole Dumbya, well, daddy was in the CIA and was a military officer, so he was going to serve… but safely on a US base sometimes flying planes. McCain, well he wasn’t that smart, but he at least used his bigwig daddy to get him in the air… well until he crashed a few times too many. See, he never should have been a pilot.

          Wars are for little people, stupid little people. If we didn’t have so many stupid little people, well, we might have less of the big people’s wars, or maybe they’d have to fight them themselves.

        • elysianfield March 19, 2019 at 8:31 pm #

          “But this is where the deep cowardice lies. Not in the man that turns away, rightly, from this counterfeit “duty”, ”

          Tight, Concise, Convenient…

  44. Pucker March 18, 2019 at 5:45 pm #

    “The selfie-video made by New Zealand shooter Brent Tarrant shows the world once again how shockingly banal an act of mass homicide can be. He went through the various chambers of two mosques in suburban Christchurch exterminating unarmed, helpless worshippers as if they were mere points to be racked up in a video game. ”

    In the Visitors Center to the US Military Academy at West Point, there’s a video game in which a person (usually a teenager) can pick up a life-sized model AR-15 assault rifle and shoot a bunch of people in a video game. There are 2 rifles and, therefore, 2 contestants who can compete with each other as to see who can shoot the most people. The teenage bloke that I was with picked up one of the assault rifles and started shooting. He was much more adept at shooting people in the game than the other teenager. When the “game” ended, he put down the AR 15 and remarked with satisfaction: “I won.”

    • 100th Avatar March 18, 2019 at 6:08 pm #

      Have you seen their recent advertisements?

      All sorts of cinematic shooting from soldiers and vehicles of violence set in some nondescript shanty town in the arid part of developing world.

      So vulgar they made me feel ill.

    • Pucker March 18, 2019 at 6:25 pm #

      During the West Point tour, the tour guide ( an overweight, middle-aged White woman) referred to the AR 15 video game in the West Point Visitors Center, which was a bit weird since it really doesn’t have anything to do with the institution of West Point. Her point was basically: “Be sure to also tour the Visitors Center where you can get your Nut off shooting a bunch of people.”

      Weird….

    • Walter B March 18, 2019 at 9:54 pm #

      Like I said Pucker, the Corp (That’s the Corp of Cadets) has gone to hell. If you are going to hunt right wing terrorists, why not help create more to keep the herd well stocked:

      alternet.org/2013/01/new-west-point-study-highlights-threat-posed-far-right-wing-groups-us/

      The horror, the horror….

      • montsegur March 19, 2019 at 6:11 am #

        Walter, my favorite was the cretin who had himself photographed wearing a Che t-shirt under his cadet uniform.

        Cheers

        • Walter B March 19, 2019 at 9:32 pm #

          Argh, that one was painful for me to see. Fortunately for me, I spent many years as a season ticket holder and attended many of our class reunions as well. I was able to watch the slow degradation of my rockbound highland home and deal with it slowly over time until I had to cut my ties and mourn in peace. It was a great loss that only a very few can understand, fortunately, I suppose.

  45. FincaInTheMountains March 18, 2019 at 6:21 pm #

    The All-Seeing Eye, the World Economic Crisis, the Fourth Crusade and the World War of the Roses

    For those who think that my stories about modern America are more crazy than my excursions into the history of the 12th century, I on this day, when the triumph of Orthodoxy coincided with St. Patrick’s Day, want to tell you that the world before our eyes begins to look like it looked before the Fourth Crusade and what happens in the US illustrate this in the best way.

    You just do not see this, and therefore my stories about the War of the Roses should tell you about the events of the 12th century, which not only define the mentality of Trump’s supporters to a much greater degree than what happened a hundred years ago, but also allow you to hope for improvement in Russian-American relations.

    In particular, I can’t read without laughter the decoding of Masonic symbols, which constantly become not a reason for a comic performance, but an occasion for serious thoughts by serious people who don’t know anything about masons.

    Meanwhile, academic science knows quite a lot about them, and not only the mist, which they put around themselves like a frightened cuttlefish.

    For example, let me introduce you the Philosopher’s Stone of the United States, the economic power of which was originally based on simple, I would even say primitive idea that, from an economic point of view, cut paper is no different than gold, if you apply a certain, hard to forge pattern on it. Moreover, this belief that it must be a certain pattern is so great that a one dollar bill will be accepted for payment even when the Amero is introduced and all the other dollar bills outside the United States will be good only for firing up the wooden stove.

    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/2007_US_%241_Bill_Reverse.jpg/1920px-2007_US_%241_…

    Actually, this is the essence of the conflict between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, who believes that after gaining resource independence, the US can take the rest of the world for a ride regarding the dollars outside the US, simply refusing to accept them for the exchange for Amero.

    But for this, the United States must return to its territory all the industries that the Clintons sent to other countries in the 90s, because otherwise the products of these industries would have to be bought for the Ameros.

    And it’s not a fact that it will be accepted for payment, since the United States will not accept treasury notes of $20 and $100. The most interesting thing is that, paradoxically, the emergence of such an opportunity strengthens the American market, bounces back the dollar and removes the need to introduce the Amero into an uncertain future, in spite of Hillary, who believes that the United States should remain an obedient tool in the hands of globalists and therefore this opportunity to take a joy Amero ride must be taken away from the US.

    I will not describe here the related relations of the party of war and the party of the economic crisis, noting only that, contrary to popular opinion, they were opposite in 1914 and 1939, but given the above described special role of the one-dollar bill, first released in 1690, I want to recommend this article about its symbolism, which seems to have driven a huge number of Orthodox people nuts.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annuit_c%C5%93ptis

    The fact of the matter is that a dollar bill like nothing else shows the unity of World Colored projects and their difference, forcing them to measure the distance from them to Orthodoxy, since the original design of the Great State Seal of William Barton corresponds to the Red World Project, its final design to the White, and the drawing on the one dollar bill to the Black.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barton_(heraldist)

    The customer of the original design of the state seal and therefore the person who defined its symbolism was Sam Adams, who organized the Boston Tea Party in 1773 and, accordingly, separated the North American colonies from King George III of the Hanover dynasty, which many British perceived as foreign occupation.

    The final design of the state seal was determined by the first US Prime Minister, Charles Thomson, but to the uninitiated it is not known who defined the design of the picture on the dollar bill, and I am very glad that I am one of the uninitiated.

    But I know the meaning of the difference in design, which still determines the special position of the one-dollar bill. And I will begin to explain it from the date at the foot of the pyramid – 1776, from which many, but not all the founding fathers of the United States commenced the New Age:

    May 1, 1776 – Adam Weishaupt established a secret Illuminati society in Bavaria.
    July 4, 1776 – The Declaration of Independence was compiled by Thomas Jefferson.

    But the main difference between the pictures on the dollar bill is that the radiant delta of the Illuminati on it lost the circle, the Star of David and the inverted star of Solomon, on the other hand, it found an emphasized two-dimensionality in combination with a no less emphasized three-dimensionality of the pyramid.

    And this eye in the triangle is the omniscience of God depicted on the pediment of the Kazan Cathedral in Leningrad, or if you go into the depths of the centuries Trinity and the Holy Spirit, who will be forced to descend on some human community if its members as bricks are assembled in the correct pyramid.

    This interpretation reflects the conviction of masons that the infallibility of God and absolute loyalty to their prophecies allows them to manipulate the angels of God, facilitating or hindering the fulfillment of these prophecies.

    But the most important thing is that this symbolism leads to Catholics who became Satanists during the Fourth Crusade, as they perfectly understood that they were not the Church, but at first they thought that they would become the Church, forcing the Holy Spirit to descend on such a pyramid as a result of the physical destruction of all these Christians, every single one of them, and then, that they will become an anti-church, forcing the spirit to descend which will NOT be at all holy.

    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Deofavente.jpg

    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Dollarnote_siegel_hq.jpg/200px-Dollarnote_siegel_h…

  46. CancelMyCard March 18, 2019 at 6:21 pm #

    “Mechanical growth vs organic growth, the latter being the “force that drives the green fuse through the flower” as Dylan Thomas put it.”

    — Janos, above

    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    Let me tell you about my day.

    It mostly consisted of several hours in a basement room, that is setup for starting vegetable sprouts, under grow lights.

    The earliest — peppers, celery, lettuces — are already an inch or so tall, reaching mightily for those wonderful LED tubes just beyond their grasp.

    The other seeds, packed into small 4″ x 4″ ziplock bags, lying on misted 3″ x 3″ paper towel inserts, are resting comfortably on 70-dgeree, temperature-controlled heating mats. Awaiting the moment of germination.

    Today, it was mostly brassica groups: Cabbages (2), Broccoli (3), Cauliflowers (2), Collards, Kale (2), Turnip, Kohlrabi, and Mizuna.

    But there were also the other cool-weather starts as well: Swiss Chard (3), Beets, Parsley Root, Perpetual Spinach, and Parsley.

    The Peas, Snap and Snow, are soaking patiently, awaiting planting in the beds a few days hence.

    Followed shortly thereafter by Carrots.

    The Garlic, Shallots, and Onions that were planted last fall, are already sporting top-growth in the 3″ – 4″ range. The Leeks are already 8″ tall.

    Soon, the tomato seeds will garner attention. Followed later by zucchini, cucumbers, beans, and squash.

    I’ve been growing vegetables for 50 years now, and know nothing else which remotely compares to fulfilling the spirit as this avocation.

    There comes with this activity — a sense of serenity, of purpose, of accomplishment, of the start on the annual journey towards the growing, nurturing, and eventual harvesting of the clean food that will nourish you: body, mind, soul, and spirit.

    This break in the mental and physical violence of our present world, is brought to you by Mother Nature.

    Respect Her, and she will respond in kind.

    May you all sleep in peace tonight.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 18, 2019 at 6:33 pm #

      Very fine. You have found a path with a heart. You will be in charge of agriculture on my plantation after the Revolution when I have become a Hegemon. You won’t have to do stoop labor but rather just supervise while I sit like Effendi on the porch in the shade. Who knows? Maybe I’ll invite you up for a drink now and then. Give your own little house in the back, free run of the servant girls, etc. An acre or two for yourself as a hobby or to supplement your rations, etc. A good life for both of us.

      Technical question: What about human waste as fertilizer? Uncle Ted in Montana used it to grow potatoes apparently. But I’ve heard you have to wait a long time or you can still taste it or even get sick. Have you tried it?

      • CancelMyCard March 18, 2019 at 7:24 pm #

        Janos,

        Human waste really only works well, substantiated in studies, in a controlled dry composting environment.

        These composting toilets have been around for at least 5-10 years now, and the technology is proven and perfectly acceptable in the organic growing world for vegetable beds. This technology is quite remarkable, actually, however you still have to get beyond the local building commission for approval in single-family homes. YMMV.

        As for your offer of a position in your hegemony plantation, you may well remember the situation in The Long Emergency where the wealthy overlord employed numerous individuals who were highly-regarded in their fields, and he kept them safe and sustained within his own compound. And the community kept together against all intruders.

        If/when, you achieve this objective, please take the time to look me up.

  47. Walter B March 18, 2019 at 6:38 pm #

    A busy day for me today Jim and a late start here, sorry to say. What a powerful assessment you have made here James, well done! So a murdering asshole chooses to wreak havoc in New Zealand and take the lives of 49 Muslims to somehow lead to the disarmament of the American public? That’s a bit of a stretch even for the CIA don’t you think? How the minds of the mindless work, or fails to work baffles me. I suppose it all goes to prove your idea that we live in a world where anything goes and nothing really matters. Damn!

    • James Howard Kunstler March 19, 2019 at 3:50 am #

      Not a stretch if you read his manifesto, which I did. — JHK

      • Walter B March 19, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

        I am having a hard time gaining access to that Jim. Any hints?

        • malthuss March 19, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

          Has anyone read the manifesto?
          milnenews.com/2019/03/15/christchurch-mosque-shooter-brenton-tarrants-full-manifesto/

          • Walter B March 19, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

            Wow and a big thank you malthuss! That was clearly thought out and logical as hell. (Though demented and so dammed self serving that the little bastard should be given the Peking Wire Jacket slow death!) I thought I smelled the ghost of Allen Dulles lurking on every page. You were right once again Jim, no surprise there.

            Frankly, I am getting bored with all of this cloak and dagger horseshit and their backdoor attempts to have us all beg for disarmament. Our government clearly hates us and fears us. Maybe it is time they just started killing us off. Legally of course.

  48. Jigplate March 18, 2019 at 6:39 pm #

    “There are already enough firearms of every sort loose in this land to commence hot civil warfare and they will not be surrendered by their owners.” You don’t know how right you are. Last week, in my new home in the south, I attended the biggest gun show I have ever seen. Hundreds of men buying and selling rifles, shotguns and handguns of every color and description, along with mountains of bullets. There was a decidedly antagonistic attitude prevalent towards the current crop of leftist politicians as evidenced by the various entrepreneurs selling bumper stickers and T shirts denigrating Hillary, AOC, Kamala, et al. The leftists however are currently “playing their tougher game”. They are not interested in bumper stickers, they are more interested in disenfranchising all of those immiserated white devils in fly-over country by negating their presidential vote:

    cnn.com/2019/03/16/politics/colorado-presidential-vote-electoral-college-law/index.html

    This is how revolutions are made. I am reminded of a quote from Ken Burn’s The Civil War – “… There is a rancor in our hearts…which you little dream of. We hate you, sir.”

    • SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 11:57 pm #

      Absolutely the disenfranchisement will continue. The Elite are benefiting from open borders and globalism. Why stop now for a bunch of whining peasants?

  49. seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

    You know Trumptards…

    The rest deleted by admin for stupidity.

    • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 7:45 pm #

      Shooting took place on the other side of the world, in a foreign country.

      He’s President of the United States, not the world.

      America first!

      Not his portfolio.

      brh

      • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 8:34 pm #

        “Shooting took place on the other side of the world, in a foreign country.”

        brh

        He’s as quick to comment on Muslim terrorist attacks in Europe as you are. He even had to be upbraided by Theresa May for retweeting lies by Britain First without bothering to check.

        Not his portfolio? Seems to be a bit elastic, that portfolio.

        • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 9:13 pm #

          Muzzies seem to have a champion in you, GA.

          Have you converted?

          nrh

          • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 9:17 pm #

            Could you point to some posts on this thread where I’ve specifically championed Muslims, brh? Over anyone else?

          • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 10:41 pm #

            Not really, GA.

            Just yankin’ your chain, as we used to say.

            You’re a good sport. I really shouldn’t be trying to get a rise out of you, but I just love those sharp retorts of yours. You are a fighter, I’ll give you that much.

            And I can’t believe I sitting here on a loading dock in Hartford, CT having a conversation with someone in Scotland. Its a kind of miracle, is what it is.

            brh

          • malthuss March 19, 2019 at 12:42 am #

            Janos,
            ‘,yet you [G A ] want this religion to colonize the West. Face it, you are all about reaction against Us, but in itself, your ideas don’t make a lick of sense.’

          • GreenAlba March 19, 2019 at 6:25 am #

            malthuss, are you reduced to an echo? Will it get gradually quieter till it disappears altogether? Enquiring minds want to know.

          • GreenAlba March 19, 2019 at 6:53 am #

            “And I can’t believe I sitting here on a loading dock in Hartford, CT having a conversation with someone in Scotland. Its a kind of miracle, is what it is.”

            Well, that’s true, brh. And it might surprise you to know that I have learned a lot about how Americans of various different types and from different places think and why, since I’ve been on here. I mean that as an entirely neutral statement. And I value that.

            For what it’s worth I’m sitting in a rented house on a hillside overlooking the historic Border town of Jedburgh.

            Border Reiver country. The Border towns are very fond of their annual ‘Common Riding’ events, which celebrate the days of the Reivers.

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Riding

            Wrong time of year, though, unfortunately!

          • BackRowHeckler March 19, 2019 at 11:10 am #

            GA

            Glad to see those old traditions being carried on.

            GB has this deep history one just cannot get enough of. Look at this site alone and Fincas constant references to the Wars of the Roses. Thats one small sliver but you could spend 2 lifetimes studying it and still not know all there is to know. In the past 2 years Ive collected an entire shelf of books about Elizabethan Sea Dogs, Drake and Hawkins, Raliegh and Cavendish. I haven’t even scratched the surface.

            Brh

        • GreenAlba March 18, 2019 at 9:16 pm #

          He basically told her to fuck off, of course.

          But not in those exact words. A great omen for our future trade deal…

          • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:25 am #

            Since we have been talking about mouthwash so much I can’t help but notice you have had a potty mouth today. No worries :-). I’ve been in my moods before as well. We are only human after all. I forgive you.

          • GreenAlba March 19, 2019 at 6:32 am #

            The thing is, SSL, I’m not the one who’s spent time on here advising people to wash out their mouths.

            And while it’s terribly kind of you to offer, I didn’t ask for your forgiveness, thanks.

            On previous threads I wrote f*ck a few times. The light of your online life said ‘why can’t you say ‘fuck’ – with some impatience. So I did, noting that the word is already fairly common on here and imagining you could all cope, especially given the name of the site is not Clusterpoop Nation.

            It’s not a word I use much in real life, although living with an Irish person can have an effect on one’s vocabulary.

          • GreenAlba March 19, 2019 at 7:57 am #

            …only *can* have an effect. I wouldn’t want to cast aspersions regarding any Irish persons who are less potty mouthed than my own nearest and dearest.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 18, 2019 at 8:14 pm #

      Why would Trump comment on the Hillary operation?

      What happened? They had their oxigen cut off in US so they had to it to int the Kangaroo-land?

  50. FincaInTheMountains March 18, 2019 at 7:55 pm #

    Debt, serious?

    this is the essence of the conflict between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, who believes that after gaining resource independence, the US can take the rest of the world for a ride regarding the dollars outside the US, simply refusing to accept them for the exchange for Amero.

    Trump: Debt is such a big beautiful thing! I’m the king of debt. I’m great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me.

  51. FincaInTheMountains March 18, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

    I am not saying that 100% Trump going to revive old Bush’s Amero project, but it is a nice starting negotiating position.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 18, 2019 at 8:02 pm #

      Now let’s hear from the idiots who would say how awful that would be!

      The globalists stole untold trillion of dollars putting them on the US Credit Card – Hillary wants you, deplorables, to pay it back with an interest, Trump wants to negotiate.

      • FincaInTheMountains March 18, 2019 at 8:07 pm #

        Cancel My Card k Ebenyam!!!

        • CancelMyCard March 18, 2019 at 8:14 pm #

          Finc,

          Same to you!

          (I think . . . ?)

          • FincaInTheMountains March 18, 2019 at 8:18 pm #

            I said it literally, not meaning your screen name.

            All similarities to known personalities are purely accidental.

            No animals have been slaughtered during that particular batch of moonshine!

          • CancelMyCard March 18, 2019 at 10:20 pm #

            Hey Finc,

            You’re OK.

            It’s all good.

            Well, most of it anyway.

  52. Pucker March 18, 2019 at 9:20 pm #

    Baltimore or Baltiless?

    Did you know that 10% of the residents of the City of Baltimore are heroin addicts?

    “J.P. Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimonsaid that the U.S. economy has essentially been split into those benefiting from thriving corporations and those who are left behind.

    “I don’t want to be a tone deaf CEO; while the company is doing fine, it is absolutely obvious that a big chunk of [people] have been left behind,” Dimon said. “Forty percent of Americans make less than $15 an hour. Forty percent of Americans can’t afford a $400 bill, whether it’s medical or fixing their car. Fifteen percent of Americans make minimum wages, 70,000 die from opioids” annually.”

    • Pucker March 18, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

      The good news is that you can make a quick buck by finagling a Medicaid card by getting on SSI and then using your Medicaid card to get the government to buy you OxyContin pills that you can then sell to third parties for thousands of dollars and trade for merchandise shoplifted from WalMart.

    • BackRowHeckler March 18, 2019 at 10:47 pm #

      WSJ, Monday, March 18, 2019

      Front page,

      ‘Big Firms Pay CEOs $1 million a month’

      Article basically states 132 CEOs of fortune 500 companies have seen their pay boosted to an average $12.4 million per year.

      “Pay for Performance” is the byline here.

      brh

  53. Pucker March 18, 2019 at 9:28 pm #

    I think that Dr. Huxtable was freely dispensing OxyContin to his patients. He justified it by frequently citing Jick and Porter’s alleged research finings that Opiates have only a 1% addiction rate.

    Dr. Huxtable’s patients would crush up the OxyContin pills and dissolve them in water and then shoot up the solution intravenously.

    “I need some more back pain pills, Dr. Huxtable. I don’t get the same buzz at work like before.”

    Sam Quinones
    Dreamland: The True Tale of America’s Opiate Epidemic

  54. revilo March 18, 2019 at 9:55 pm #

    Is seawolf a chick or just your run-of-the-mill cucked bugman?

    • malthuss March 19, 2019 at 12:44 am #

      Who cares? Not me.
      Yet, Id like to see photos of Janos, Green Alba and ….YOU!

  55. venuspluto67 March 18, 2019 at 10:17 pm #

    Eh, I figure whatever is going to happen is simply going to happen, people will do whatever they are going to do, and, as this comment section proves time and again, peeps be crayzee. C’est la vie! 😀

  56. seawolf77 March 18, 2019 at 10:19 pm #

    Coming this fall… “The Racist Races” where we put starving spicks, chinks, gooks, wops, niggers, and orange colored trolls in a maze and in the center a piece of cheese, Wisconsin made from grass-fed cow’s milk- top notch, top notch. And the winner will be able to apply for citizenship to the United States of America. They’ll all be crying for just a chance, just one chance… to come to America. And all you Nascar folk can cheer your asses off watching them squirm for the cheese. Yeeeeehaaaaa!

    • SoftStarLight March 18, 2019 at 11:45 pm #

      You need to get a grip seawolf. This downward spiral is scary.

  57. Clare March 18, 2019 at 10:40 pm #

    Mr Kunstler,
    I’m a long-time reader of your blog, a New Zealander and a retired librarian. I came across you when I read your book Too Much Magic. I enjoyed it very much.
    I read your blog because I am trying to understand how Americans think. I must admit to being more confused now than when I started. Let me say firstly that the lady Green Alba usually says exactly what I would, if I were as talented a communicator. So you know where I’m coming from.
    Referring to your article. You are right to condemn the callous inhumanity of the white supremacist as he performed his massacre. I hate that so many have watched those poor people get slaughtered like it was a game. That’s exactly what the terrorist wanted.
    What I really object to is the twisting of their murders into the narrative that they shouldn’t have been here in the first place, which again is exactly what he wanted.
    Why play into his disgusting hands?
    We’re all immigrants in this country, including Maori whose blood is also in me. We can and are misidentified sometimes as other nationalities. That terrorist could have murdered me, or my family, thinking I was Muslim. I also have English blood, one of my ancestors fought at Waterloo. The thing is that I couldn’t give a rat’s arse where people come from. We’re all citizens of the world. Human. Homo Sapiens.
    The sort of anti immigration, white supremacist bullshit that led to this massacre is to blame. None of us are any better or worse for our sex, colour or creed, or history.
    I can see how bravely and well Green Alba stands up for her principles. I’d like to say I applaud and agree with her. She’s not alone.
    It’s just really sad that this atrocity has motivated me to finally get off my arse and say so.
    So I don’t agree that the left is playing with fire over the immigration issue. People have always moved around the globe for millenia and it will only increase with planetwide disruption. The sooner we embrace each other and tolerate our differences the better. As a librarian I lived that philosophy and did my best to educate myself and advocate for free speech and democracy.
    I am truly grieving about what has happened and I stand with my Prime Minister in banning semi automatics. To the fifty New Zealanders who were murdered I can only express my shame and sorrow at what happened to them.

    • K-Dog March 18, 2019 at 11:19 pm #

      I’ll try not to chase you away. Thank you for writing what you did. Very refreshing.

      White supremacist bullshit has been tolerated because Joe Six Pack has not been getting his say. The bullshit has been confused with the voice of Joe Six Pack but it is really only the voice of a small confused minority of all the Joes.

      It should not be allowed any more at all. The proof why is here. It is hate, twisted hate, with no basis in fact. A fantastical fiction promulgated by men who basically don’t measure up. Men who can’t accomplish anything on their own who have to identify with a ’cause’ however deranged their ’cause’ may be.

      It is all to avoid the bottomless void of knowing we are nothing except what we make of ourselves. To those who can do something in life or are willing to try, this truth does not have to be so scary. But to the inadequate and those who have wasted more life than they can face up to; it is a terror they will murder to avoid.

      What easier way to run from the knowledge that you are shit than to decide other people who are different than you are shit. It is an ideology tailor made for the lazy and mediocre. Lazy because doing unto others as you’d have them do unto you and thus making something of yourself is about as hard as eating a piece of cherry pie. Mediocre because the big dog in the sky hates racists.

      Racists are too dumb to figure this out.

      • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:07 am #

        Do you believe this holds true for racists of all colors or just “White supremacists”?

        • K-Dog March 19, 2019 at 1:56 am #

          ALL

          • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 9:09 am #

            Very good! At least you aren’t one-sided. Now you definitely get some doggie treats :-). Just messin with you K-dog ;-).

      • Janos Skorenzy March 19, 2019 at 12:57 am #

        Mid 20th Century Jewish (Frankfurt School) propaganda. The Founders would have laughed this to scorn. Men do not stand alone. The individual is a vanishing point without his culture – and that means “group”. We could have never taken this continent from the Indians thinking like that. Shame on you for this foolishness.

        • venuspluto67 March 19, 2019 at 5:41 am #

          We could never have taken this continent from the Natives without smallpox and the black death, end of fucking story.

          • Ol' Scratch March 19, 2019 at 10:25 am #

            The Gatling Gun certainly didn’t hamper the cause either. Readily available cheap corn whiskey sealed the deal later.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 19, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

            Part Injun? Of course we would have conquered them, one way or another. They were Stone Age Hunter Gatherers or early Agriculturalists. The Sioux allowed a few of their young men to go East with some kind of Wild West Show. Gave them instructions to carefully count how many Whites they saw.

            They came back after a few months and reported: We stopped counting the first day. The Whites are as numerous as locusts and we are doomed.

            The Sioux fought bravely nonetheless and won themselves a home. Their enemies, the Pawnee (whom they despised as dirty cannibals) acquiesced early and lost everything. They were on a higher level from a conventional technical pov – already starting to build crude Pyramids and perform human sacrifice. Indian Civilization always seemed to go in this direction. The barbaric Sioux were higher from a spiritual point of view.

    • Walter B March 19, 2019 at 12:05 am #

      Excuse me, but didn’t New Zealand have some of the strictest laws and even visiting policies on the planet? Has that changed? Are you now embracing the open borders, no laws governing immigration policies agenda that seems to have been accepted by so many nations in the world? Can you not see any serious problems with the ignoring of the laws and policies that govern immigration across national borders? Are you one of those supporting the anything goes and nothing really matters movement that is so often discussed here? I am aware that there are certain societies that promote the idea that chaos can be utilized to usher in “change” to our somewhat organized societies as a means to an end but do you understand and accept that chaos as a goal will certainly be a very bumpy road to that “final solution”? Enlighten me please.

    • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 12:20 am #

      We’re all citizens of the world. Really? That honestly sounds so 1990’s with all due respect. What a great ideal. Nothing at all wrong with wanting a world like that. But it is just that…an ideal. Populations are fighting over a shrinking supply of resources and living space. Racial and ethnic tensions naturally result. As they have throughout human history as you know. Humans are tribal and always have been. That you lack that proclivity does not mean it is virtuous, nor does it mean that others should embrace it. Clearly you are proud to display perceived virtue. Clap clap!!!!

      • Clare March 19, 2019 at 1:45 am #

        Well thankyou I try. Why don’t you?

        • SoftStarLight March 19, 2019 at 9:15 am #

          Because it is impractical in the real world. And it is not a virtuous position in my opinion.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 19, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

      Well said. The NZ State has disempowered Maori storytellers since they tell of how the Maori were not the first in New Zealand, and how they conquered a race of Red Haired Giants and genocided them. Their skeletons are everywhere. The Maori told Anthropologists to leave their dead alone, but said they didn’t care what they did to the bones of the fallen aliens.

      Yeah people have always moved around. And Natives have always fought such invaders. How simple it is, and how simple one must be to try and impose political correctness on human history.

  58. Q. Shtik March 19, 2019 at 12:27 am #

    “How about not molly coddling the rich for starters?” – Farmer Joe

    =============

    I am trying to figure how mollycoddling differs from plain ol’ coddling. A Google search showed that coddle is a synonym for mollycoddle so what’s up with molly?

    I figure if anyone can shed light on this it will be Green Alba. After all, she quickly got to the heart of the use vs utilize issue.

    As to Joe’s point, however, I don’t agree with soaking the rich simply because they have more than enough money, although who’s to say how much is enough. When Woody Allen married his adopted daughter he explained that “the heart wants what the heart wants.” There are people who feel this way about money.

    The assumption seems to be that the wealth of the rich was come by illegally. If so, prove it and take ALL of it away. Or that it is somehow a crime or unfair to pass on accumulated wealth to your children. I vehemently disagree. Give the inheritors enough time and they will piss it all away anyway and be in the soup with the rest of us. A fool and his money are soon parted.

    • malthuss March 19, 2019 at 12:45 am #

      WHO IS MOLLY ANYWAY?

    • GreenAlba March 19, 2019 at 9:18 am #

      “I figure if anyone can shed light on this it will be Green Alba…”

      Or Google, Q.

      But here’s a present for you from some Revolting Peasants…

      i.imgur.com/v4fHXei.jpg

      • Q. Shtik March 19, 2019 at 11:44 am #