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Christmas Story

         On Saturday, the town next to us, Cambridge, New York, put on its annual Christmas breakfast in the main theater of its old opera house, Hubbard Hall. Cambridge is a farming town in a farming economy that died and is just beginning to be re-born. The town occupies a landscape of tender hollows and gentle hills that rise toward the Green Mountains of Vermont twenty miles east. This topography allowed a specialty economy of seed husbandry to thrive. Each little hollow, like a little isolation ward, could be used to cultivate pure seed strains of a vegetable untainted by other varieties. 
     The modest red-brick factory in the center of town was never a smokestack industry. It was a seed-sorting and packing operation. Today, the “re-purposed” building occupies a very mixed assortment of activities: a specialty woodworking shop, a health club full of cardio machines, and artist’s studios. The town – indeed, much of Washington County – has attracted bohemians over the years. It is just a little too distant from New York City to have been taken over by weekenders, and my guess is that the way things are going the danger of that is now past.
     Of course, bohemian artists are generally not wealthy and a glance down Main Street shows all the usual signs of distress visible in the shattered economies of small towns around the region. Many of the operating storefronts are antique shops – an effort to wring residual value from emptying the attics and barns of homesteads under-occupied and under utilized, the strip-mining of history. Many of the big wooden houses, typical of the 19th century when large inter-generational families were the norm, are slowly decrepitating. They require a lot of expensive maintenance, which has been impossible for decades now, and it shows.
     Hubbard Hall, a big wooden heap with its Second Empire mansardic tower, was erected in 1878 for the traveling shows and vaudevilles of the day and shuttered in the 1920s. It was rescued from oblivion in the 1970s and has evolved into a very busy center for the lively arts, which now includes two other buildings, freight barns adjacent to the defunct railroad station. There’s a ballet studio, a music rehearsal room, a room for kids’ art classes, and a separate building for contra dances. The programming is very rich. The old theater, where at least four plays and sometimes operas are performed by a capable local troupe each year, is the heart of the operation and that is where last week’s Christmas breakfast was held. 
      It is the kind of gathering place for people that could never be built now under the absurd burden of our construction codes. And that is finally what I want to talk about here: the magnificence of the room itself and how it affects the beating life of this struggling community. Unlike the depressing “facilities” most of our festivals take place in around the USA – the gymnasiums and Holiday Inn “function rooms” with their extraneous furnishings, acoustical ceilings studded with fire-prevention shower heads, off-gassing carpets, and atrocious fluorescent lighting – Hubbard Hall has a lofty painted ceiling and a graceful swooping wooden balcony in the rear. The proscenium arch is decorated in floral motifs out of the William Morris pattern book. The big room smells like old wood and history and the stairs to it creak musically.
      For seventeen years, the town has put on a Christmas breakfast devised to celebrate the culture of a foreign land, mostly for the sake of the children who grow up in a town that is, in the language of social services, ethnically un-diverse. This year it was Poland. Now, it happens that I joined a string band about a year ago that practices every week and plays for the monthly contra dance. I play fiddle, an instrument that is easy to play badly. We practiced four Polish folk dance tunes for the month preceding and rehearsed with the dancers, a troupe of middle school girls, once.
      I was not prepared for how splendid the event turned to be. The theater walls were decorated with pine boughs. Little electric lights and swags of pine edged the apron of the stage and the balcony rail. Many tables were set where the audience usually sits (the chairs are movable), covered with table-cloths, with a big platter of Christmas cookies at the center of each. Children about ten or eleven circulated with platters of pirogies and strudels. The bustle of life in that room was enchanting. There were two seatings at the breakfast, nine and eleven, both of them very full. The program on stage was a mixed bag of dance, story-telling, puppetry, and musical performance, all done surprisingly well and with the wonderful élan of people who know and care about each other. When both seatings were over, our little band broke spontaneously into Christmas carols, which we hadn’t practiced at all, and somehow managed to play pretty well as the townspeople drifted toward the exits.
     I maintain that there is something about the room itself, its small-scale magnificence, that honored the presence of the people in it, and amplified all the pleasures of being together for the purpose of festivity. America these days is mostly composed of places that are not neutral as they seem, but positively hostile and antagonistic to what is most human in us – the mechanism that produces love. To quote myself from a book published some time ago, we built a nation of scary places and became a land of scary people. Thus, we are truly fortunate that the long emergency is upon us, because now circumstances will compel us to do things differently.


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781 Responses to “Christmas Story”

  1. White Indian December 10, 2012 at 9:16 am #

    Christmas, Merry, Merry. One each.

  2. LaughingAsRomeWasBurningDown December 10, 2012 at 9:17 am #

    Excellent columnn!
    Merry Christmas!
    Keep Laughing!

  3. kulturcritic* December 10, 2012 at 9:19 am #

    James, it seems as though the noose around our neck keeps tightening. But, perhaps this expanding political fascism has much deeper roots, and cannot be rooted out.
    Best, as always, Sandy kulturCritic

  4. Dr. Tim December 10, 2012 at 9:19 am #

    To one and all: While recognizing the reality of our cluster world, we should all try to share a bit of positive cheer to those around us for the sake of all religions, creeds, and humanity. Next year, let us try to get our act together. Jim is getting tired of reminding how f**ked up we all are. Cheers.

  5. John T Anderson December 10, 2012 at 9:20 am #

    Jim: This essay deserves to be reprinted (so to speak) elsewhere on the Web. It is a piece of understated, unsentimental, truthful elegance worthy of this time of year. Keep it up.

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  6. Laura Louzader December 10, 2012 at 9:20 am #

    One of your best columns, and a welcome respite from the usual carping about our modern vulgarity and insanity.

  7. OccupyMBA December 10, 2012 at 9:23 am #

    Jim, I sincerely hope you’re encountering – in that breakfast – the sort of deep resilience in small towns and big-city neighborhoods alike that we will need as the climate changes and technical systems fail. Brattleboro, VT, where I live, has an annual free Thanksgiving dinner (over 40 years old) where many people volunteer and socialize. Almost 700 meals were served this year. Things like this bind us together and humanize us to one another.
    Ralph Meima
    Author, “Inter States – A Prospective Novel of 2040”
    (published in installments at http://interstates2040.wikispaces.com)

  8. Barter4Booze December 10, 2012 at 9:27 am #

    Your column was reminiscent of my childhood in Southern Quebec, where the people would gather and the “Jubilee Hall” (built in commemoration of the diamond jubilee of Queen Victoria). In the early Wintertime it was filled with all of the lights, sounds, smells — the ambiance of community.
    What once was old is new again!
    Happy Hannukah! Merry Christmas!

  9. Loveandlight December 10, 2012 at 9:31 am #

    I know what you mean. For the past fifteen years, I have lived in an apartment above a main-street store situated in a building built in 1921. The place is somewhat dilapidated, but I like living in a building with some real old-fashioned character rather than one of the grim “brick-box” apartment buildings built during the peak of the post-war building-boom in which I would likely otherwise be living right now.

  10. siobhan olivia December 10, 2012 at 9:36 am #

    Hostile buildings! Poisonous and sterile. No wonder people are crazy.

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  11. Zev Paiss December 10, 2012 at 9:38 am #

    A very touching reminder that through the death and destruction of our current mega-constructions and inhuman creations an emerging vision of human scaled and relationship centered culture is striving to emerge. What you have described is happening in small towns and some larger communities all over this great land. It is our job to help these shoots of authentic community emerge.
    In my novel there is a touching and powerful scene which takes place in a transformed traffic intersection turned town plaza where “The Governor,” a 75-year-young charismatic woman, offers inspiration and light to a re-birthing of independence that was so desperately needed and so relentlessly fought for.
    You can read it yourself at http://www.fromhere-tothere.org.

  12. Onthego December 10, 2012 at 9:41 am #

    Wonderful word picture of a living place; there are small venues like this studded throughout rural places here in NY that are the beating heart of small towns. Attending events in these places renews the spirit that give one hope for a better life in small towns.

  13. ozone December 10, 2012 at 9:43 am #

    Those type of gatherings are good for reinforcing social skills, constraints and family bonds as well. (Not too much occurrence of drunk-and-disorderly at a Christmas brekkie, I’d imagine.)
    As far as decrepitude goes, I’m hoping that the artisan-scale trade of slate tiles for roofing returns without having to be re-learned from scratch. I’m sure you’ve noticed that the building that last the longest have large timbers, kept dry by either stone (limestone or slate) or clay-tile roofing material. Asphalt may be quick, cheap and convenient, but it just doesn’t last for multi-generations. (Overhangs are also very important, and I don’t see much of that going into modern building practice either.)
    BTW, doesn’t most of our slate occur “locally”; from the shores of Lake Erie?

  14. GAZ December 10, 2012 at 9:43 am #

    When are the predictions for 2013 coming?

  15. BeingThere December 10, 2012 at 9:46 am #

    Knowing what we do about your aesthetic, it’s good to hear you found “home”.
    Isn’t that what this time of year is supposed to be about?

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  16. Neon Vincent December 10, 2012 at 9:47 am #

    Wow, that is the most positive essay I can remember reading from you, and I’ve been following you for at least four years. I should savor the memory; you don’t say this much this nice very often.
    I haven’t started blogging about Christmas in earnest over at Crazy Eddie’s Motie News, but I did post one entry about a winter holiday with lights and gifts–Hanukkah. I found a bunch of offbeat menorahs and posted images of them yesterday. Hey, I can’t be all DOOM all the time, just like our host can’t be either. Speaking of doom and holidays, I also found a cartoon of Rudolph the Red-Nose Reindeer in a gas mask, something he might need to fly through the smog over North Pole, Alaska, which has the worst air quality in the country.
    I’ve also been following the U.N. climate conference in Doha, which managed to eke out what could barely qualify as a successful result under the most charitable criteria. The good news is that a University of Michigan survey found that a majority of Americans now favor governmental action on climate change. Too bad they’re not as aware of Peak Oil. Also, Detroit has made an important step to a future where more people are growing their own food by approving an urban agriculture zoning ordinance. That’s also good news, even if locals are anxious about Hantz Farms. Keep an eye out for that story; it’s a solution that might be exported to the rest of the country.
    I’ve also posted roundups of news on real estate, cars, fuel (business as usual is making a temporary comeback, which should crap out by the end of the decade when peak tight oil comes), biodiversity, pollution, and space.
    As for the rest of the week, I’ll have more sustainability news on the topics I covered already, along with how Right-To-Work (for less) is screwing up metro Detroit’s plans for mass transit. Yes, really.
    Happy Motoring–for now–from Detroit!

  17. djc December 10, 2012 at 9:47 am #

    I’ve read this twice and I’m still smiling. Kudos on a great piece.

  18. Jimmy Drinkwater December 10, 2012 at 9:48 am #

    I took a cross country trip a year ago with my son, now 24. Traveling mostly off the interstates on roads between planned stops we were making, we were met all along the way with cordiality, friendliness and generosity. When we needed help once it came by in the guise of a local guy with his truck and tools. There are a lot of good people out there still, salt of the earth people. It’s easy to forget that under the weight of all the doom and gloom.

  19. ozone December 10, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    Begging the question: Which became crazy first? The populace or the architecture?

  20. Collapse Watch December 10, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    It is the kind of gathering place for people that could never be built now under the absurd burden of our construction codes. And that is finally what I want to talk about here: the magnificence of the room itself and how it affects the beating life of this struggling community. Unlike the depressing “facilities” most of our festivals take place in around the USA – the gymnasiums and Holiday Inn “function rooms” with their extraneous furnishings, acoustical ceilings studded with fire-prevention shower heads, off-gassing carpets, and atrocious fluorescent lighting.

    Yes, this System has been a sure but steady march away from the visceral. Your description of meeting places designed and built to stunt the visceral and preclude vitality goes hand in hand with this article in the NY Times about children, playgrounds and the importance of play in positive development.
    Can a Playground Be Too Safe?

    By gradually exposing themselves to more and more dangers on the playground, children are using the same habituation techniques developed by therapists to help adults conquer phobias, according to Dr. Sandseter and a fellow psychologist, Leif Kennair, of the Norwegian University for Science and Technology.
    “Risky play mirrors effective cognitive behavioral therapy of anxiety,” they write in the journal Evolutionary Psychology, concluding that this “anti-phobic effect” helps explain the evolution of children’s fondness for thrill-seeking. While a youthful zest for exploring heights might not seem adaptive — why would natural selection favor children who risk death before they have a chance to reproduce? — the dangers seemed to be outweighed by the benefits of conquering fear and developing a sense of mastery.
    “Paradoxically,” the psychologists write, “we posit that our fear of children being harmed by mostly harmless injuries may result in more fearful children and increased levels of psychopathology.”

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  21. Smokyjoe December 10, 2012 at 9:52 am #

    Hmmm…a downright upbeat report from my favorite Mr. Scrooge. Happy Something, Jim!
    As odd as it is to comment on CARS in this blog, I cannot resist. I have long been aware that younger collectors of vintage cars treasure “patina,” while Depression-era folks want their old vehicles pristine. In an article about the topic, the author attributed that difference to older folks recalling a time when everything was run down.
    It makes sense that the GIs and the “Silent Generation” would then build a world of smooth Formica, linoleum, manicured lawns, and acoustic tile as the pinnacle of human accomplishment and scientific planning. The Boomers aped this in their own Home-Depot way.
    Many, though certainly not all, younger folks want the authentic, the link to the past that the spaces Jim describes embody (even as they clutch those sleek smart phones). I hope run down and repurposed is the new chic. I suspect we’ll be seeing lots of it in the years to come.

  22. mountaingal December 10, 2012 at 9:56 am #

    I do believe we know beauty when we see it, and we are hardwired to appreciate beauty. Why we have abandoned any attempt to build attractive buildings and great streetscapes is beyond me. People flock to the cities and towns that have lovely (and old) achitecture and walkable streets, in the US, Canada and Europe.
    I was at a conference recently in Chicago and the hotel it was held in had some rooms for presentations that were magnificent; ceilings of murals and all sorts of ornate fixtures. A far cry from the modern approach of acoustic ceiling tiles and blah beige walls.
    I do think that we feel differently in gracious surroundings; compare a multi-plex mall cinema with a rare existing old theatre. We have been building stuff that isn’t worth saving and is dispiriting to look at. Who would want to save a big box store someday? They are built to be torn down after a short useful life.
    I know that people say we can’t afford to build beautiful structures anymore but I’m not sure why that would be true. If we build things worth preserving, and worthy of being around for hundreds of years, why isn’t there value attached to that?

  23. DavidOfCambridge December 10, 2012 at 9:57 am #

    As a member of the Hubbard Hall theater company I appreciate this tossed bouquet for our obscure presence in the theater world. At times Cambridge feels like one of those insects preserved in amber which appear so alive far beyond their era of existence. But in reality, our community succeeds because it does not strive for fame or money, but just the pleasure of hearing a live audience reward our efforts with applause. And I want to add a reference to the Battenkill Chorale which also uses this space and will perform Rossini’s Solemn Mass in January in Greenwich. The Seeds of Cambridge take many forms. Maybe todays column will be one of them.

  24. matthewstruth December 10, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    Jim sir…..thank you for this.
    Tears are rolling down my face. I remember your two new towns there in “the county” with quiet fondness.
    This piece touches many cords in me as I’m also currently learning to allow my cello’s strings to revererate…not well, yet, but sweet solace anyway.
    My re-return to small towns in Maine has me experiencing these very things too. Our wonderful, older, slightly rundown, but “presence”-filled gathering places, where all manner of human inspired events happen. Some hoaky, but many soothing and wondrous, inhabited by ourselves and neighbors.
    My weekend was partially spent reading Too Much Magic. I so appreciate that you are not afraid to use the word “stupid”. But saddened too that it is so appropriate at times within this culture.
    And then……this column rights the stupidity we see. We can right this ship and bring ourselves into “right relationship” with each other by becoming real people. I am pleased to get these small glimpses into what your life is becoming Jim!
    Peace All!

  25. greyghost05 December 10, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    Great post this week. Jim, it sounds like you’ve found a home rather then just a place to live. I think that’s cool.
    And I would like to wish you and your family all the best of this Holiday Season.

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  26. ozone December 10, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    (Sorry, forgot the winky-face thingy! ;o)

  27. bor December 10, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    Thanks James. Lovely and warm column. Happy Hanukkah
    and Marry Christmas to all James’s guests!

  28. k-dog December 10, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    Many of the operating storefronts are antique shops
    You may have nicer old public meeting rooms than we do but I’m real close to Renton WA and our antique shops are going out of buisness faster than yours are.

  29. Steve Szydlowski December 10, 2012 at 10:03 am #

    Great story! I promised myself I’d join after you took a hiatus from doom and gloom and put your formidable skills to the positive side of the long emergency.

  30. Whomeesa December 10, 2012 at 10:08 am #

    deculturate, alienate, reculturate.

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  31. White Indian December 10, 2012 at 10:09 am #

    “…the Fallacy of Reversibility. It is most pronounced in Kunstler…” ~The Fallacy of Reversibility | theoildrum.com/node/3481
    We’re not going back to the The Good Old Days of 150 years ago, but at Christmastime, all is forgiven anyway, Jim.
    Yet Christmas Eve 2050 will be rather more wild.

  32. ozone December 10, 2012 at 10:10 am #

    You probably will not see this, but if’n you do, I highly recommend the Infinity Theater in Norfolk, CT as a venue to see something very special to you. (Quite expensive.) A beautiful place, both inside and out, and when they say there ain’t a bad seat in the house, you can take them at their word. (The setting gives that small, tucked-away New England town feel that’s “warming”. See it late on a summer’s day and it just makes you feel like talking to strangers! Horrors! ;o)

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  35. KT December 10, 2012 at 10:22 am #

    It’s great to hear that you had such a wonderful time. That town sounds enchanting.
    Around here we have lots of holiday parades and gatherings in the old downtowns. People want to congregate in them, yet they do most of their shopping in the usual places. Who could think of having a parade in a big box parking lot?
    I’m glad the old places still exist. I’ve been watching them get remade (slowly) here for the past two decades. I think the antique store motif is the first remaking. One day these stores will again be true stores (sort of like Pinocchio becoming real again) and the downtown streets will be busy daily.
    Holiday cheer and keep playing!

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  36. popcine December 10, 2012 at 10:31 am #

    Yes, thank you, bankers! For an economic crisis that brings down the temple on your own heads, and gives a chance to do something about the other calamities about to crash like asteroids on us, who will be left standing.
    And thank you JHK, for last week’s “Homeless”, one of your best.

  37. Jim Teacher December 10, 2012 at 10:33 am #

    Jim, kudos on your Christmas show. Living in a similar small-town setup (though transplanted to heavily populated and diverse North Jersey), I can say there is a certain magic to those small-fry community halls and centers. I would, however, caution about the utter lack of fire safety in some of those places (I’ll pass on the off-gassing carpets). One only needs to look at some of the catastrophic fires of the past, such as Cocoanut Grove (70 years ago, all ready), to see that, despite the general love that built these places, there was some thought missing when it came to keeping people safe from the flames.

  38. John D. Wheeler December 10, 2012 at 10:39 am #

    You know, it’s great when something old, that’s been a comfort to many and an inspiration to more, can be rehabilitated and put back to good use. But sometimes it’s just too far gone and you have to tear the whole thing down and start fresh.
    And no, I’m not talking about those buildings, I’m talking about what led to the Geography of Nowhere.

  39. hugho December 10, 2012 at 10:58 am #

    nicely done Jim. It felt like a piece from one of your novels.

  40. Widespreadpanic7 December 10, 2012 at 11:08 am #

    Nice post, Jim. It brings me back to Thorton Wilder, or Hawthornes 19th century descripions of the buildings in Stockbridge and Salem.
    Merry Christmas, and Happy Hanukah to all.

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  41. asoka: December 10, 2012 at 11:10 am #

    Many of you will remember when, in mid-2008, crude oil futures climbed above $147 a barrel. There was great crying and gnashing of teeth on CFN that oil would soon hit $200 and society would collapse. The long-awaited SHTF would finally be here. I called bullshit. I was then criticized as a “cornucopian” out of touch with reality. Crunch time was here! The end was near! I called bullshit again. Rinse and repeat endlessly.
    So, now it’s over four years later. Today New York’s main contract for light sweet crude for delivery in January is $88.11 a barrel.
    So not only did you CFN doomers get it wrong about oil going up to $200 a barrel. You got the direction wrong. Oil prices went down, not up.
    I am claiming bragging rights here on CFN. You cannot even say “but the trend is up” because you got the trend line completely wrong. It went down.
    I do get tired of having to speak so loudly, as it were, to the bloggers here who are so very hard of hearing, but what else can I do? I keep effortlessly proving myself to be right and the doomers to be wrong.
    This CFN blog is much more interesting when I take the time to post here because I post in an erudite manner on a variety of subjects, usually with correct grammar, usually concise posts, and always with intelligent content.
    Deal with it.

  42. lancemfoster December 10, 2012 at 11:12 am #

    I’ve been reading Kunstler’s blog for several years now, along with two other favorites, the ones by Dmitry Orlov and the one by John Michael Greer.
    Kunstler’s is the only unmoderated forum/comments section of the three. Notice the difference for example between the comments sections of James Howard Kunstler (unmoderated, and Kunstler hardly ever shows) and John Michael Greer’s and Dmitry Orlov’s very moderated forums, where those two are always in the thick of things.
    I dig James’ work, but is he any busier really than Orlov or Greer? Couldn’t he get somebody (paid/unpaid) to moderate some of the rants and keep the conversation productive and going in some kind of direction? A forum where the writer never addresses comments seems like an afterthought, an unwanted orphan. There is no exchange between the writer and his/her readers. And so here we are, the same exact kinds of rants and ad hominem stuff and horseplay that I saw when I started reading this blog 4 or 5 years ago.
    It’s even sadder now that the Kunstlercast is defunct (or at least I stopped checking for it a couple of weeks ago). I know he is going through some personal/health challenges, but really, I wish he would enlist someone to help him out or stick his head in ever once in a while at least.

  43. PublicPersona December 10, 2012 at 11:14 am #

    Times whan we can return to the simple pleasures and enjoy the gifts of pleasant company are often missing in our lives. Enjoy them when you find them. Take the quiet grace away with you and share it with someone else.

  44. RJGrones December 10, 2012 at 11:19 am #

    I Googled images of the hall; it looks lovely. I’ve been enamored my whole life with historic old wooden Main Street buildings and theaters, etc. (and old photographs), and this love will never die until I do. I have absolutely no doubt that your insistence that we are psychologically, emotionally and spiritually (and physiologically!) affected to great extent by our surroundings, is so very true on a basic brain-stem level (as well as much higher levels of the spirit regarding theater, survival, human connection, history, story-telling, music; the meanings of love, home, and family.) Your underlying message this week, it seems to me, is that there’s quite probably a “second chance” for us, in an end-of-growth scenario, perhaps a better way to live, which we need not fear entirely. I’m all for it. Count me in.

  45. Left Coast December 10, 2012 at 11:27 am #

    Not what I expected but a delightful change. Merry Christmas

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  46. lsjogren December 10, 2012 at 11:40 am #

    My glimmer of hope came from going to Seattle and visiting an old friend I hadn’t seen for decades and attending a concert of the high school jazz band his son plays in, which is nationally renowned.
    It occurred to me that compared to these hard-working young people, we had been derelicts at that age.
    A glimmer of hope for the future.

  47. anti soak December 10, 2012 at 11:55 am #

    Cops at 200k a year! Hows about USA loans Brazil
    100M+ to build aquarium?
    The U.S. Export-Import Bank, an agency of the federal government, is lending $105 million to the Brazilian state of Ceara to help build an aquarium in its capital city of Fortaleza.
    “An anticipated tourist attraction, the aquarium will boast four floors housing 25 large tanks containing approximately 15 million liters of water and showcasing 500 marine species and 35,000 individual specimens,” the Export-Import Bank said in a press release.
    “The aquarium will also feature interactive exhibits, two 4D cinemas, one 3D cinema, and an educational platform dedicated to the research and preservation of aquatic life along the Brazilian coastal regions,” said the U.S.-government-controlled bank.
    NY ‘subway killer’ Muslim Immigrant
    Did ya know Obama has diversity visas, to bring in more of em?

    ‘talking about the New York Post cover photo showing Ki Suk Han about to be killed by the subway train, but the real story here is yet again being ignored by the mainstream media. The real story here is that Naeem Davis is clearly a devout Muslim, and one who displayed behavior characteristic of jihadis after he committed murder.
    “Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give you victory over them, and He will heal the breasts of folk who are believers. And He will remove the anger of their hearts.” — Qur’an 9:14-15
    Naeem Davis, a Muslim immigrant from Sierra Leone sporting a pious Muslim beard, seemed “very calm, not crazy,” after he murdered Ki Suk Han. As is typical of jihadis, he blamed his victim, making up the preposterous story that this man nearly twice his age attacked him.
    His calm after his murder was also typical. Robert Spencer wrote this in February 2012: “Muhammad Parvez called 911 to tell them he had killed his daughter Aqsa after he murdered her for not wearing the hijab. His calm after the killing, and his turning himself in, is common with Islamic honor murders and other killings and attempted killings: one notable example came in February 2009, after moderate Muslim leader Muzzammil Hassan beheaded his wife. He went to a police station, shook an officer’s hand, and then shocked the unsuspecting policeman by telling him: ‘I want to tell you that I just killed my wife and I’m here to turn myself in.’ Similarly, when Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar drove an SUV onto the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and attempted to run over and kill as many students as possible (he killed none but injured nine), he appeared serene and even happy after the attack. Seattle jihad shooter Naveed Haq was calm during a traffic stop just twenty minutes before he starting murdering Jews for Allah at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle.”
    There are others as well. A Muslim in Dubai “slit her throat three times…he stole two mobile phones and Dh200 from the victim and fled…he showed no remorse as he just headed for a mosque and prayed.” The Arkansas jihadist, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, who murdered Pvt. William Long outside a Little Rock military recruiting station, was “calm, not belligerent or hostile.” Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, the Mumbai jihad mass murderer, walked “calmly through the train station with his assault rifle” as he murdered people left and right.
    The Qur’an says that Allah “will heal the breasts of folk who are believers” when they fight the kuffar. That’s why Naeem David was calm.
    ‘Killer’: I blame victim New York Post, December 6, 2012
    If looks could kill!
    Accused killer Naeem Davis, with a chilling, dead-eye stare yesterday, was hit with murder charges for tossing a Queens dad into the path of a subway train in Midtown, authoritie’…..
    [atlas shrugs website]

  48. Jay Schiavone December 10, 2012 at 11:57 am #

    “To quote myself from a book published some time ago, we built a nation of scary places and became a land of scary people.”
    To which you added: “Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.”
    At least, that’s how I remember it.

  49. sevenmmm December 10, 2012 at 11:59 am #

    Very good!

  50. anti soak December 10, 2012 at 11:59 am #

    Maine and Ohio are being ruined by Somalis.
    The Dems bussed em in [including illegals]
    to vote for obama!
    muslim somalis jihad for welfare obama-apartments in ohio!
    17 hours ago – Look no further to the Muslim jihad for welfare apartments that took place in … to quiet the violent herd of over 2000 Somalis jihading for free apartments in the … Columbus keeps the worthless, savage Somalis rioting for free
    google: somalis causing problems in Maine.

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  51. Jimmy Drinkwater December 10, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

    This CFN blog is much more interesting when I take the time to post here because I post in an erudite manner on a variety of subjects, usually with correct grammar, usually concise posts, and always with intelligent content.
    Deal with it.

    Then please start your own blog instead of riding this one like a Remora.

  52. anti soak December 10, 2012 at 12:01 pm #


  53. lsjogren December 10, 2012 at 12:04 pm #

    Asoka, although I am a believer in peak oil, I do believe that most peak oil advocates tend to see everything in peak colored glasses.
    This tends to lead them to make predictions of doom on very short term timetables that turn out to be just plain wrong.
    When I was reading books on peak oil I noticed that even the fossil fuel experts who believe in peak oil have a tendency to focus on the negatives and downplay those factors that may mitigate the problem, at least in the near term.
    I guess the biggest doomer about resource shortage was Malthus, who is now widely considered to have been wrong, but to create perhaps one of the worst metaphors of all time, the demise of the human race doesn’t happen till the fat lady sings.
    I believe that based on the facts at hand it is extremely likely that there will be a dire phase for the human race when fossil fuels fade out as an available energy source to fuel modern civilization.
    I also believe that we well may get a “stay of execution” for a few decades due to new technologies that allow us to squeeze a little more out of existing wells and access sources that were previously noneconomic, with fracking being the primary enabler.
    Furthermore it is conceivable that during this “grace period”, there may be alternatives to fossil fuels that help mitigate the “long emergency”. However, if you just look around as you go about your daily business and think about what is dependent on fossil fuels, it is staggering. Plastics, agricultural chemicals, construction materials, pavement, not just fuel.
    I believe the facts point toward big trouble coming. I also believe that one should not be so blinded by such concerns as to cavalierly dismiss any developments that may lengthen the timetable or blunt the severity of that looming crisis.
    Unfortunately, I think peak oil advocates have largely expressed their concerns in a way that leads to their being perceived as the boy who cries wolf.
    I believe that unfortunately, the wolf will most likely eventually arrive.

  54. anti soak December 10, 2012 at 12:06 pm #

    Im listening to NPR. And I am hearing Fannie /Freddie pay ON AVERAGE 350K/yr to its ‘civil servants’.
    What NPR is not reporting is FF does what it can to
    employ Blacks [40% of its workers are Black].

  55. anti soak December 10, 2012 at 12:07 pm #

    He is the leach we cant get free of.

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  56. blowhard December 10, 2012 at 12:10 pm #

    Your post brought to mind a quote from Thomas Wolfe’s “You Can’t go home Again” I read at http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=5913083698007077441#editor/target=post;postID=3479603873165182083
    “A spirit of drunken waste and wild destructiveness was everywhere apparent. The fairest places in town were being mutilated at untold cost. In the center of town there had been a beautiful green hill, opulent with rich lawns and lordly trees , with beds of flowers and banks of honeysuckle, and on top of it there had been an immense, rambling, old wooden hotel.
    It had been one of the pleasantest places in the town, but now it was gone. An army of men and shovels had advanced upon this beautiful green hill and leveled it down to an ugly flat of clay, and had paved it with a desolate horror of white concrete, and had built stores and garages and office buildings and parking spaces – all raw and new – and were now putting up a new hotel on the very spot the old one had stood. It was to be a structure of sixteen stories, of steel and concrete and pressed brick. It was being stamped out of the same mold, as if by some gigantic biscuit-cutter of hotels, that had produced a thousand others like it all over the country….

  57. third_martini_banter December 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm #

    Clearly old Hubbard Hall — built of wood how many decades ago, and likely without any modern fireproofing or sprinkler system — must be bulldozed. I’m sure Dayz Inn would take an interest in the property once it’s cleared of the old fire-trap. As for those lively-arts types, they doubtless would not survive if subjected to the purifying fire of market forces. Perhaps they could get jobs in the Hamptons tending to the pools of the Wall Street Seal-Team Six Wannabes who spend their weekends crawling in cold mud and getting their orchids stung by electrified obstacles as described in today’s NY Times article:

  58. seatrades December 10, 2012 at 12:50 pm #

    Another White Christmas: OK, so Cambridge , New York, celebrates a “traditional” Christmas. Will us people of color at least be able to apply for passes to enter this anticipatory utopia? Still, it must be lovely there, especially when powdery drifts of snow cover the perimeter machine gun nests.

  59. teddyboy46 December 10, 2012 at 12:55 pm #

    ialot about the emotional side aof articture by reading JHKs books and it opened up a whole new world to me. I was a school custodian for 32 years and cared for and maintained in truly beutiful old buildings. you could see and feel the hand of the man who designed the buildings his vision made whole, and the craftmenship of the men who built it.
    We have lost all that because industrialazation have turned us into souless zombies who look at the past with wonder and envy.

  60. teddyboy46 December 10, 2012 at 12:57 pm #

    i learned alot about the emotional side of articture by reading JHKs books and it opened up a whole new world to me. I was a school custodian for 32 years and cared for and maintained in truly beutiful old buildings. you could see and feel the hand of the man who designed the buildings his vision made whole, and the craftmenship of the men who built it.
    We have lost all that because industrialazation have turned us into souless zombies who look at the past with wonder and envy.
    i should look before i hit the submit button.

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  61. Jim Eberle December 10, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    Asoka. You don’t see the big picture. Horizontal drilling and fracking will not save the growth paradigm. Growth is already over on a global scale. Nothing like the 90’s is ever coming back. We will never again see the Dow jump six fold, adjusted for inflation, in a 12 year period as it did 1988-2000. It’s over……forever. Get over it. We will muddle along for awhile before going into steady decline.

  62. dclacy December 10, 2012 at 1:08 pm #

    As much as I enjoyed reading about this town and venue, I wish you would include some images. You’re an artist, so I would think you’d be effective at taking pictures representing your perspective. As colorful as your descriptions are, images reinforce what you are writing about. You know the saying, “A picture’s worth a thousand words.”

  63. Kyooshtik December 10, 2012 at 1:21 pm #

    Oh pulleeeze, Jim! I hate when you get all warm and fuzzy.
    Personally, for these sappy “Happy Holiday” events I’ll take a rectangular cube of space in a cookie-cutter motel function room, painted a generic beige, with the occasionally water-stained standard 2’x4′ acoustic tiles set in a drop-ceiling, along with the off-gassing carpet of nondescript pattern any day. (BTW, back in my day in the military industrial complex the term was out-gassing). We need to get our kids accustomed to toxic fumes in the same way their bodies actually benefit from taking in air and water born germs, otherwise if we are too protective they might be killed by the first bug that comes along. This stuff about hundred-year-old buildings in old up-state NY burgs that have seen better days ain’t what it’s cracked up to be.
    And I prefer a gathering of people who I am not likely to actually know or ever see again so if I get bored I can just split and who’s the wiser. And I don’t want to chance some strange ethnic food (like pirogies, whatever the hell THEY are). Give me a nice egg McMuffin and lukewarm coffee with two little plastic thimble-size containers of imitation milk and a sweet and low. Also, I like being able to slip outside for a smoke with like-minded folks who will not try to make me feel like a pariah and will hopefully avoid making useless small-talk.
    Really Jim, stick to what you’re best at: the scathing downbeat rant dripping with contempt for Nascar, tatts, and southern white trash. And stop trying to generate feelings of warmth, goodwill and hope amongst your readership just because it’s mid-December. It’s all so much phony bullshit. ;o)

  64. RyeBeachBum December 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm #

    I grew up in a town of about 500 people in the 50s and 60s, so I am appreciative of the scene that you present, but the long emergency will not just bring out quite bucolic scenes like this. There are too many people to go back to the land. The world is going to get very messy and dangerous before it gets better. Billions will die in the meantime, and they will not all be in the third world.

  65. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 1:38 pm #

    Exactly. I see the connection: on these sites, and in these theatres, everyone believes the same thing about every issue or pretends to. That’s the price of admission. To disagree is to be ostracized and/or expelled. And they call it Freedom. These are the self conscious good people. They are so, so, so Good. But they are wracked with guilt – where are all the Blacks! Why do the few Blacks in Vermont cause so much of the crime! What have we done to make these wonderful people act this way!

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  66. turkleton December 10, 2012 at 1:38 pm #

    I know, Q. For a minute there I thought that I had accidentally wandered onto Martha Stewart’s blog or something. More doom! More gloom!

  67. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 1:40 pm #

    The pod people are trying to take over. Let’s forget our differences and unite for Freedom. Oh wait, you want me kicked outta here too. Never mind.

  68. keny December 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm #

    JIm– you were unprepared for how splendid the event turned out. I am happy to hear such honesty and a glimmer of optimism. I would like to hear more of your thoughts regarding modern building codes. Any source you can direct me to?

  69. SeaYoung December 10, 2012 at 1:44 pm #

    A couple of comments here. Smokey Joe brought up the fact that younger car guys like patina. Older want pristine. I appreciate your spotlighting something I hadn’t connected until now, and find your explanation/observation profound.
    In response to Jim’s article today: In the small town I was raised in in the Blue Ridge Mountains of NC, there were many small country stores. The one my dad, brother and I frequented had a big wood burning stove in back and the store was as rickety as you can imagine. The store was the evening gathering place for local farmers, saw mill workers, and anyone else who showed up. Conversations turned from politics, to fox hunting, to trout fishing, to manly gossip, and tall tales. My favorite story teller had ridden with Gen Patton in Africa during WWII. He was an excellent teller of tales. As a kid, I felt like I was chasing Rommel beside the General himself, the way Cobb told the stories.
    Cobb was one of our town drunks who in addition to working at the saw mill, also drove our school bus! As MADD began bringing light to the subject of impaired driving, I asked my mother how she could have allowed all three of her children to ride on a bus driven by a known drunk. Her comment: “Cobb always drove pretty good when he was drinking. I’m not sure how he well he would have driven sober.”
    Merry Christmas!

  70. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 1:44 pm #

    I worked at a Catholic Center once, in the bookstore. The priests and nuns were all pod people, the good people. They had a ministry to the street people but they hated having to do it but their self image gave them no choice. Their heart was really in politics. So they would cancel their appointments with street people to go to meeting with refugees from Nicaruagua. Of course they pronounced it in the good people way. Since street people have no phones, they didn’t know they were being cancelled until they got there and I told them.
    You see the good people aren’t.

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  71. turkleton December 10, 2012 at 1:45 pm #

    Freedom. Liberty. Blah blah blah.

  72. Fissile December 10, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    What can I say about most of upstate New York? “Ugh!”. My sister lives next to Woodstock. If it wasn’t for the money that flows into Ulster County from NYC, the entire area would have dried up and blown away years ago.
    It’s comforting to think that upstate was once all bucolic and Norman Rockwell-like, but fact is that upstate was once agriculture AND manufacturing. As late as the 1970s upstate was a manufacturing powerhouse. GE, GM, IBM, you name it, all the big manufacturing companies had operations in upstate New York . All gone now. Even if agriculture made a comeback, upstate will never recover its economic position without manufacturing, and I can’t see manufacturing returning to upstate New York within our lifetimes.

  73. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    Somali women are famous for stomping White women. Like the men, they attack in gangs.
    I think the Korean Man was drunk and was actually the aggressor. Doesn’t change the horrible nature of the crime of course.

  74. turkleton December 10, 2012 at 1:52 pm #

    You’re famous for being a nit wit.

  75. turkleton December 10, 2012 at 1:54 pm #

    I went to school up there. There are many abandoned factories scattered around that no one even bothered to tear down. The cities like Albany, Syracuse, Buffalo, and Rochester all seem pretty desperate, hollowed out downtowns surrounded by rings of more affluent suburbs. Kinda depressing really.

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  76. turkleton December 10, 2012 at 1:56 pm #

    Well, why do you cause most of the trouble on this blog? That’s just how God made you I surpose.

  77. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 1:58 pm #

    It would also make a fine Mosque. What right do White people have to have a good time like this all by themselves while people are starving? Dark skinned people, real people – not pale Ghosts of Europe Past?
    It’s a small world after all. Small and Crowded. People want what you have, folks. You gonna give it to them, or are you gonna fight? No excuses – live or die? Our ancestors said live and that’s why we’re here.

  78. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 2:02 pm #

    Blah, Blah, Blah? Sounds like you’re channeling Dee. But you are very special. No one else is capable of your level of cognitive dissonance. You know that people are unequal by birth but you don’t care: you’re gonna force your beliefs don’t our throats even if they’re not true. If everyone believes them, that will make them true just as O’Brian tells Winston in 1984.

  79. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 2:11 pm #

    Yes, real community is very rare. And to be real, it must be based on shared values. Maybe the good people have it but you and I just don’t belong? In other words, it’s real for them and but not for you. America flourished when people were all White and Christian – and didn’t travel around so much so real community had a chance to develop. And even later, when regionalism began to break down, there was still a generic White Christianity to fall back on.
    The good people have their own version of this of course: White, Liberal, and Non real Christianity. But the contents matter too and the things they believe are suicidal if they have to compete with other groups. The Quakers were the same but they had the Scots Irish Trash to protect them. But now the Liberals have triumphed to such a degree that no one is left who will be willing to step up and protect them.

  80. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 2:16 pm #

    Good. Real Culture means diversity: drunks, old soldiers, and also having parties in old fire traps. The codes makes sense: the place is probably a fire trap. Just like my books were when my Dad told me to throw them away because they were a fire trap. But I guess the couch wasn’t, right Dad?
    Sorry. Real Culture involves risk – fire traps are the least of it. All Libraries are Fire Traps. Let’s ban the wheel while we’re at it, also knives, and guns too.

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  81. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 2:26 pm #

    Yes Malthus was right – technology just delayed his coming for awhile. Instead of millions, billions will die – making him even more right than he would have been.

  82. ront December 10, 2012 at 2:29 pm #

    This essay offers beautiful descriptions that can serve as images on which to base new life for humanity in times that call for creative change. It seems to me that simple, honest, natural lives clear the way for meaning and self-filfillment. There is also the possibility that once we get fed up living in the face of scarcity, we may well discover our true inheritance is abundance.

  83. anti soak December 10, 2012 at 2:48 pm #

    Somali Gang Girls Beat UK White Women, Get No Jail Time …
    Dec 8, 2011 – Somali Girl Gang Stomps White Girl Senseless, No Jail Time Served … Somali Muslim women caught on tape severely beating a white woman .
    Turtle….now go off on me, you nitwit….

  84. coast watcher December 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm #

    Antique shops are a transition business, as you say. In Bath, Maine, the downtown has gone from conventional old-style retail to empty storefronts to antique shops to, now, a new round of active small shops slowly taking over from the marginal enterprises that had kept the downtown from disappearing.
    Perhaps because the big box stores were slower to arrive — and often actively and successfully opposed when they tried to move in — Maine’s small towns seem to be surviving quite nicely of late. I read Bill’s columns and see the future in places like Bath and Belfast and Damariscotta, in all the CSAs and farmers markets and the impromptu musicians who gather at the local coffee shop on Wednesday nights to play Celtic music. And John Michael Greer might be heartened by the stories I hear these days of hilltop bonfires and bumper stickers that proclaim, “My other car is a broom.”

  85. turkleton December 10, 2012 at 2:56 pm #

    It happened….once….some lady also threw her baby over a highway overpass. Does that mean they all do? No.

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  86. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm #

    You smoke? What the hell, what are you doing here? Don’t you care about your health? And what about ours?
    Why not switch to clove or garlic cigarettes?

  87. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

    I caught that baby – and run for a touchdown. I almost spiked it, but caught myself at the last second just like Michael did.

  88. Steve D December 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm #

    whats the matter with you people. Embrace the future! Love my job, since I’ve been bringing in $5600… I sit at home, music playing while I work in front of my new iMac that I got now that I’m making it online.

  89. turkleton December 10, 2012 at 3:10 pm #

    Just stop posting. You’ll thank me later.

  90. Bustin Jay December 10, 2012 at 3:14 pm #

    Ocean pH going from 8.2 to 7.4 by 2050
    I’d say it is as conservative an estimate as 3.6C global temperature rise by 2100.
    No, we’re looking at oceans at or around 7, and temperature rise more like 7-8 degrees C.
    We’re really stomping on the accelerator. The long emergency is here. The skids are greased from here on out with mass environmental destruction just getting started.
    Boy did this generation fuck up.

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  91. wle December 10, 2012 at 3:19 pm #

    JHK plays fiddle?
    why does this sound like fires and ancient rome?? 🙂

  92. Collapse Watch December 10, 2012 at 3:58 pm #

    We’re closing in the time when we need to….
    Just Let Go
    Part of that process is letting it ALL come down.

  93. Grouchy Old Girl December 10, 2012 at 4:05 pm #

    Just lovely. Living on the north shore of Lake Ontario in a two hundred year old town of 18,000, our geography, population type and economic rise and fall have much in common with the area Jim writes about.
    Having that kind of community life that JHK describes so well is why I’ve chosen to stay here where I was born almost all my life. Decided a long time ago you had to be very rich to enjoy city life. I wasn’t, ever. And I don’t like concrete.
    Lovely, thank you JHK.

  94. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 4:18 pm #

    I bet that Santa could stomp-the-shit out of somebody with those big, black boots that he wears?
    After having spent lots of money on buying Xmas presents for other people who won’t give me anything, I bought myself an Xmas present. I spent 14 bucks for a book on Custer’s Last Stand at the Little Bighorn. I can’t wait until I get to the part where “The Injuns” blow Santa (I mean Custer) away…..
    Apparently, they found Santa (I mean Custer) on the grassy plains of the Little Bighorn dead lying across 2 other dead elves (I mean soldiers) with a smile on his face, like he had had a sudden orgasm, or something….

  95. Kyooshtik December 10, 2012 at 4:19 pm #

    You smoke? What the hell, what are you doing here? Don’t you care about your health?
    No, I don’t smoke. If you will re-read my 1:21PM comment you will see a smiley face at the end. The whole thing is a tongue-in-cheek spoof on Kunstler’s essay. I thought that was fairly obvious.

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  96. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 4:34 pm #

    Do you remember the rubber Christmas photo-op turkey that former U.S. president, George W. Bush, Jr. served to the troops in Iraq? (Apparently, W’s press agents felt that a rubber turkey made for a better photo than a real turkey.)
    No one thought that it was a bit strange…..
    I always feel like I’m being served up a Rubber Turkey….

  97. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 4:43 pm #

    Do you remember the old Peanuts Xmas Special in which the kids excoriate Charlie Brown for buying an anaemic, yet real Christmas tree when he “should” have bought a flashy new aluminium Christmas tree?
    “You’re such a ‘Block Head’ Charlie Brown!”

  98. Kyooshtik December 10, 2012 at 4:49 pm #

    A little while after writing a comment at 1:21PM in which I spoofed today’s essay by Kunstler I returned to write another comment and when I clicked on “Sign In” a message appeared that said something like “You do not have permission to comment, Sign Out.”
    I figured Jim was pissed about my earlier comment so I wrote to him at his email address. I asked if he had banned me. I told him my comment was just a spoof and would he please restore my permission to comment. Jim replied that he had NOT banned me but that he had banned some others.
    The sign in box continued to tell me I DID NOT have permission to comment so I figured I’d have to go through the whole rigmarole of establishing a new screen name. Well, I searched through EVERYTHING at the CFN site and I CANNOT find anything about establishing a comment account/screen name.
    Can someone please provide detailed instructions how to do this?
    BTW, it may appear to be a moot point since, as you can see, I subsequently went back to the sign in box and was able to sign in. Thus you are reading this comment. Nevertheless, I would still like to set up a new screen name just in case.
    I note that Bustin J, who has been amongst the missing for quite some time, returned today with the new handle Bustin Jay (welcome back Bustin) so I’m guessing you were either banned or couldn’t post due to some technical glitch. Bustin, please tell me how you set up the new handle.

  99. turkleton December 10, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

    Hey, Q. I think this blog runs on Typepad so this perhaps?
    Not 100% sure though.

  100. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 4:56 pm #

    I read in an Australian health magazine that 85% of corn grown in the U.S. is GMO, and that 95% of the soybeans grown in the U.S. are GMO.
    According to the article, almost no research has been done on GMO crops since “no one will fund such research.”
    True story….

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  101. turkleton December 10, 2012 at 4:57 pm #

    No. I is wrong. It uses Movable Type (a real piece of crap that).
    What you’d do to create a new account is first click on SIGN OUT above the comment box at the bottom of this page. Then that link is replaced by SIGN IN. You click this link which takes you to the login box for the site, and in the lower right of that screen, beneath the text boxes for username + password, is a link saying something like “Create an account” or “New account”. Clicking on this takes you to the form for creating a new account with a different name.
    Makes sense now?
    Have a good one.

  102. flying picket December 10, 2012 at 5:09 pm #

    You get better and better, James. Like those antique buildings. And I’m not disparaging either.
    Another nice concluding paragraph. Quite poignant. And, now I think of it, that’s not a word I use often.

  103. ozone December 10, 2012 at 6:02 pm #

    Masterful, Q.
    I grovel, scrape and kowtow. ;o)
    Thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed the parody while trying to keep the cheap-o box’ted wine in muh mouf’ despite the threatening belly-laughs!

  104. bopdrummer December 10, 2012 at 6:15 pm #

    This was a very excellent piece. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

  105. ozone December 10, 2012 at 6:23 pm #

    Wow! I saw this in passing. What a revealing near-bursting pustule of a “job description” outlined very shortly before the usual racist rant (designed specifically to engender heated distractionary responses).
    “Exactly. I see the connection: on these sites, and in these theatres, everyone believes the same thing about every issue or pretends to. That’s the price of admission. To disagree is to be ostracized and/or expelled. And they call it Freedom.” -littlest laddie
    There, there, little fuckwit. I urge you to desist in whining and talk to the colonel; he’ll tell you how to disguise your pathetic instigational, psychopathic, victimized shell with different shades for “next time”. (You may be pulled off the case soon, but don’t worry, your reassignment to the AF-PAK THEATER will not be forever. Try that practiced keyboard co-intel wizardry on a guy toting an AK who no longer has the capacity to give a shit. Why not think of it as the ultimate patriotic sacrifice of being sent to the Eastern Front as a card-carrying Nazi in WW-fascist-killing-time. Awwww, dry your eyes now; see? All will be well if you just get your mind right… perhaps things will seem clearer in the morning light…
    Fucking jerkwad.)

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  106. progress4spam December 10, 2012 at 6:30 pm #

    Nice week’s work, JHK.
    It was sort of a Currier and Ives meets Norman Rockwell and then mugs the geriatric Yankee version of the Road Warrior – But it was gooood, you know?
    And it’s interesting that pretty much everyone fell into the spirit of the thing except for K/Q, Vlad, antiSoak, and asoka..with his new colon.
    Hate to think what that colonoscopy would reveal, you know?
    And thanks for the heads-up on the recent bannings, K/Q.
    Let’s see if this thing will post.
    Testing. Testing! Is this thing on??

  107. progress4spam December 10, 2012 at 6:33 pm #

    Oops – now one of the Connecticut Yankees is giving a verbal beat-down to the Resident Racist.
    That harmony didn’t last long, you know?

  108. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 6:35 pm #

    “This Christmas, why not buy that special little F….cker a “G.I. Joe”?
    G.I. Joe—Fighting Man…from Head to Toe….”
    And this Christmas…to celebrate Obama’s Gays-in-the-Military policy Hasbro’s selling the new “Gay G.I. Joe”, and his “partner” with the “Kung Fu Grip”.

  109. Collapse Watch December 10, 2012 at 6:42 pm #

    Some of you do have a point. Feel-good Christmas stories amidst the Doom is somewhat analogous to showing It’s a Wonderful Life to a Balkan Brothel full of trafficked young teens. Those poor abused girls can never go back. They are forever damaged. We all are, to one degree or another….damaged.

    Damaged people are dangerous. They know they can survive.
    ~Josephine Hart

  110. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 6:45 pm #

    Do any of you CFNers know if, in the age of the Internet and techno-gadgetry texting, etc., whether people still take the time to write messages on public bathroom walls?

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  111. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 6:50 pm #

    When I was in High School I was once dragged into the Principal’s office and had to endure the obese Principal shouting at me for allegedly writing a dirty message on the bathroom wall.
    To get even with the obese Principal, I egged his car.

  112. helen highwater December 10, 2012 at 7:17 pm #

    Hey Pucker, instead of posting stupid questions like do people still write on bathroom walls why the hell don’t you just go in one and look? And why do you think we give a rats ass about some stupid thing you did in high school? Geez there are a lot of weirdos posting comments on this site.

  113. ozone December 10, 2012 at 7:30 pm #

    Well, I never let a warm fuzzy anecdote get in the way of some good ol’ fashioned spite and ridicule. ;o)
    I must apologize. I try to skim uncomprehendingly over those squirtings of bilious bullshit, but once in a while I accidentally integrate a piece of a posting that happens to be quite revealing. (Thus, an appropriate/in-keeping obscene response to an obscene and repugnant thesis.)
    (And my CT yanqui-ness is highly suspect, as I come from the land of grape farmers on the shores of Erie. Hey-zeus, them folks never forget, and forgiveness is hard-earned and rare.)

  114. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 7:30 pm #

    Yo Helen!
    I don’t live in the U.S., so I’m privy to what’s being written on the U.S. privy.
    I suspect that in-the-good-‘ole-days writing on the bathroom wall was the equivalent of what we refer to today as “Blogging”?
    Incidently, my high school Principal was both obese and a homosexual.

  115. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 7:34 pm #

    Given that homosexuals are obsessed with physical appearances, fashion, sexual stamina, etc., it must have been “weird” for my high school Principal to be a woman trapped inside a fat man’s body?

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  116. Pucker December 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm #

    One Xmas, my obese, homosexual high school Principal got dressed up as Santa.

  117. ozone December 10, 2012 at 7:49 pm #

    BTW, I had meant to mention a book I’m reading that might have a small bit of bearing on my lack of tolerance for out-and-out false effrontery.
    “The Dog Stars”, by Peter Heller.
    Sometimes the depths of heartbreak can destroy the will to live within the prison of another’s construct of reality.
    And, WSP, you’ll find the writing style a bit “stilted” to begin with, but as the story sweeps you along, you’ll no longer notice, or perhaps find a strange enhancement thereby.

  118. jomendi December 10, 2012 at 7:59 pm #

    You BAN some “letters to the editor”? Shame on you. You’re starting to act like our old boss at Rolling Stone.

  119. ozone December 10, 2012 at 8:08 pm #

    …Then again, a better man than me said this:
    “I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate him.” – Booker T. Washington
    [Just seen on ICH]
    I’ll ponder on that a bit and maybe return to reticence and restraint…

  120. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 8:26 pm #

    I don’t remember any smiley. The only smiley I know is Tavis. What’s wrong with smoking? Why is smoking funny?
    The world is ending and you’re worrying about your sign in? Even though you signed in? Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

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  121. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 8:31 pm #

    Really hit home, eh? That’s cuz it’s true dipshit – all effective humour has at least an element of truth in it. And yes, my man Booker T was a better man than you. He advocated industry for Blacks – which lead to a small Black middle class. Of the the big three, Booker T Washington, Marcus Garvey, and W.B Dubois – the first two had value. Needless to say we followed the useless (because untrue) line of racial equality advocated by Du Bois.

  122. asoka.. December 10, 2012 at 8:32 pm #

    And it’s interesting that pretty much everyone fell into the spirit of the thing except for K/Q, Vlad, antiSoak, and asoka..with his new colon. Hate to think what that colonoscopy would reveal, you know?
    I have not yet posted my response to this week’s column.
    Asoka: is not Asoka..
    You are jumping to conclusions, and setting up an opportunity to attack me even though I have not yet posted anything. I am not surprised.

  123. asoka.. December 10, 2012 at 8:40 pm #

    I am very disappointed with this week’s warm and fuzzy post.
    As Bustin Jay said, we are facing a very serious and very severe climate situation. The permafrost is beginning to melt. The scientists are admitting their models underestimated temperature change. What JHK posted today may be a Norman Rockwell feel good Christmas scenario, but it ignores the reality of our situation.

  124. progress4spam December 10, 2012 at 8:42 pm #

    As Paul said off the record, “Titus, if you can’t get away from a Resident Impediment, at least warn the others in the congregation.”

  125. xhalor December 10, 2012 at 8:43 pm #

    “…To disagree is to be ostracized and/or expelled. And they call it Freedom.” -littlest laddie”
    Remember when we had the disagreement about 9/11? That was one thing. But, speaking for myself, trying to persuade a middle-aged person to suddenly become racist…
    Does that EVER work?
    About 9/11; I don’t believe that I ever got across that I’m one of those Knew It/Allowed It people. It’s because of that FBI agent that had been warning the government for months.

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  126. bproman December 10, 2012 at 8:44 pm #

    Thank you for this gift. Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas.

  127. xhalor December 10, 2012 at 9:06 pm #

    Hey Kids!
    Get yer decoder rings out. Here’s this week’s Secret Transmission.
    ,,:.:… .,,: ,,,::..:, .,..:.:::
    (Hint: An old maritime expression)

  128. ozone December 10, 2012 at 9:08 pm #

    “But, speaking for myself, trying to persuade a middle-aged person to suddenly become racist…
    Does that EVER work?” -X.
    Dunno, X.
    If you were to start out with an A-#1 dyed-in-the-wool, common-clay, non-thinking ASSHOLE, it just might; you can never tell.
    ‘Bout that little 9-11 “unpleasantness”? If you should run across someone who doesn’t think there’s SOMETHING a lot hinkier than the official narrative, I’d suspect that person’s critical thinking skills to be “beneath the norm”.

  129. xhalor December 10, 2012 at 9:22 pm #

    “If you should run across someone…”
    I am currently in the home of true believers. But, it’s a big country. I’m sure that there are more than a few candidates.

  130. asoka.. December 10, 2012 at 9:34 pm #

    As Judas said, off the record, “Hey, guys, let’s all join FAIR and NumbersIsrael, and stop this influx of Pharisee immigrants. We got ours, and our families are fine, now let’s keep out the new comers.”

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  131. banana republican December 10, 2012 at 9:46 pm #

    That Pat Boone cover of ‘Smoke on the Water’ was one of the most stunning pieces of kitsch I’ve ever heard.
    As for Daniel Boone’s ‘Beautiful Sunday’ – it works really well when you’re driving across the Navajo Reservation in Fall. But if you’re going 90 per with two or three Tribal police cars on your tail…
    not so good.
    What about the WTC 7 building that also came down on 9/11? Knew it/allowed it? Inside job to be sure. I would say knew it/allowed it/perpetrated it.

  132. xhalor December 10, 2012 at 10:05 pm #

    Tribal Police? Are you Hunter Thompson? I thought you were dead?
    As for the government perpetrating 9/11,
    nah. They knew a timely interception was impossible. Better to look incompetent than homicidal.

  133. k-dog December 10, 2012 at 10:08 pm #

    A dyed-in-the-wool, common-clay, non-thinking ASSHOLE, it just might; you can never tell.
    Sadly I must point out that the DITWCCNTA (CCNTA for short) does have one overriding force which animates the body. The deceptions are endless. Just following orders, everybody does it, that’s not my responsibility. I was just doing what I was supposed to do. We will all do anything to fit in with the tribe. Be they Treblinka guards or hospital staff normal people want to fit in.
    CCNTA’s are normal people without frills of any kind. They are the kind of people from which guards are made. There is no ‘just might’ about it.
    The beginning of wisdom is to speak the truth.

  134. k-dog December 10, 2012 at 10:09 pm #


  135. k-dog December 10, 2012 at 10:31 pm #

    But, speaking for myself, trying to persuade a middle-aged person to suddenly become racist…
    Racial tensions can increase as the minority participation in a population changes. A new racist has to come from somewhere and I see no logical reason why a middle-aged person must be considered exempt from the scourge.
    The basic rule:
    Things which promote cohesion between groups and pull people together. – GOOD
    Things which divide groups and separate people. – BAD
    The situation is dynamic and ever changing.

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  136. Pepp December 10, 2012 at 10:39 pm #

    Thanks, Jim.. a small but powerful glimpse of small town life in Upper New York State, and in an odd way, it was comforting to know. And thankyou for all the essays this year, again, each one a treasure and beautifully written.
    Here, in Sunny Socialist downtown Sydney, the harbour is shining like polished diamonds, the angoraphora gums are releasing their incredible spicy scent all day and night, the folks of Sydney walk tall and tanned with delighted grins, and if you listen carefully you can hear the boom of the surf outside the Harbour. Unemployment is steady at 4.9%, the economy has retained its boom, no foreclosures, trade surplus with China, and of course, a universal health system second only to the French System which is the best in the world..
    Its been a year of being second, Jim. Second to the Finns in overall excellence of education, second to the Frech * see UH* second to the bloody Swiss in being the luckiest place to be born, second to the Danes in being the most happy, second to the oh well… you get my drift, Jim.
    Astonishly, in response to your column there are the usual dingbats who manage to scrape up their racist,sexist, genderist psycopathy and with no originality at all repeat the same old dreary tedious babble yet again. ..
    Looking forward to your usual peceptive forecast for 2013, Jim.

  137. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 10:57 pm #

    Meanwhile Australia declares itself an Asian Nation and opens the door to massive Middle Eastern and Chinese immigration. New Zealand as well with the Chinese. Only the Maoris are Men enough to object. The Abos do too since they hate everyone – especially Black Africans to whom they are no genetic relation at all.
    The prognosis long term is not good. Overpopulation leading to warring minority groups while the few remaining rich Whites live in Gated Communities. Another Brazil/America in the making. A devolving First World Nation going a to a high tech primitive state.

  138. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 11:00 pm #

    So Whites should give up their grouphood and serve other groups – even if it’s unilateral? I mean what can third worlders offer? They have nothing and are beggars. I suppose they can refrain from killing us – let us stay alive to support them. It’s called Slavery.

  139. Radu Voda December 10, 2012 at 11:03 pm #

    Let’s face it Prog – this guy’s a hater. His Yankee Puritanism has become secular hatred for all Whites who disagree with the White Sucide Pact. His is the very essence of the Spirit which animated Sherman’s Army in their Rape of the South. And the Hatred from which the Ku Klux Klan sprang in response.

  140. Kyooshtik December 10, 2012 at 11:11 pm #

    Its been a year of being second, Jim. Second to the Finns in overall excellence of education, second to the Frech * see UH* second to the bloody Swiss in being the luckiest place to be born, second to the Danes in being the most happy, second to the oh well… you get my drift, Jim.
    Astonishly, in response to your column…
    …and second to the Bonobos of the Democratic Republic of Congo in spelling.

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  141. Pepp December 10, 2012 at 11:30 pm #

    and as to be expected the utter embarrassment to the USA of the lunatic Vlad with his reeling speil of complete bullshit about everywhere , all garnered from the shed in his rehab home in Apathy , Alabama….. amusing, idiotic, and predictable. So repetitive. So unoriginal. So dreary. Nothing new. Nothing except the spewing detrius of a mind so far unravelled as to be viewed with the same disgust as the tracks of slimy snails that surround Vlad’s abode.
    oh well. Just once a year, Vladdy, you curdled old pig, try something NEW~~!.. think of it, a NEW ORIGINAL train of thought from you, instead of the weekly excreta of the your usual drooling. The idiotic rants against women, the idiotic rants against blacks, the idiotic ravings against hispanics,muslims, jews,the polka dotted, the Chinese, the idiotic fumings and babblings your poor brain tries, and tries and tries to confabulate into some coherency about all the people in your life who reject you comprehensively, and wisely, too.
    Imagine it, Vladdy. Imagine if you had to actually set yourself the task of typing something that left out the leakings of your addled brain, and commented on Jim’s essay. Imagine if you chose to set aside, for one week, your dreary lame old dribble, and applied what is left of your marbles to some remnant of rationale?….
    What would happen, Vladdy? Could you do it? That is the challenge.

  142. Pepp December 10, 2012 at 11:55 pm #

    just take your time, Vladdy. Dont reject the idea instantly. Think about it, see if you can do it.
    And while you’re at it.. “Only the Maoris are Men enough to object. The Abos do too since they hate everyone – especially Black Africans to whom they are no genetic relation at all.’…
    You claim to read and write Maori AND Pitjinjarra or Arunta, or Wurridgeree, Vladdy? More of your blatant lying dullness? Why would an ‘Abo’ or a Maori be discussing these thoughts with YOU? You are so unimportant and so repellant to any Koori * of which I am one * or Maori it’s rather hard to believe they are contacting YOU with this rubbish. Did you receive this idea thru the fillings in your teeth? I merely enquire.

  143. Pepp December 10, 2012 at 11:58 pm #

    I just want to keep you calm, Vladdy, so you can concentrate on the choice available to you. I assure you, there is no time limit here. I have all day. You just relax, and take your time, I know it’s a HUGE step for you, but you won’t know what you are capabale of until you try.
    Do it in small steps, don’t try it all at once,… take breaks, and rest between the lines.

  144. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 12:07 am #

    I’ve bunged in a few more spelling errors to keep you occupied, also, Kyooshtik.. I wouldn’t want you to feel left out.. see if you can spot them!..
    keep them in alphabetical order for me, if you don’t mind.. I have always wanted a personal secretary all to myself on Jim’s blog.

  145. xhalor December 11, 2012 at 12:25 am #

    “Things which divide groups and separate people. – BAD”
    See! I just knew that the Designated Hitter Rule was BAD.

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  146. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 12:50 am #

    See Takimag, the Somali Article.
    Australia sealed its doom in 74, when it ended
    the Whites only rule.
    Demoncrats control USA.
    In 1970 USA was 92?% White. Now?
    Die-versity is weakness and the death of freedom.

  147. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 12:51 am #

    And it sells its resources to China Inc.

  148. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 12:55 am #

    AWD site:
    Notice all the late-year vehicles being driven on overfed Muslim women talking on cell phones? America is the only country in the world that imports trash to live better than their own tax-paying citizens who are stupid enough to still work! Not only are these obese savages worthless, they are violent to boot! Can anyone tell me what value Somalis bring to America? Violence, ignorance and forced underage prostitution don’t count.
    I copied too much in and got a ban!!!!!!!!!!!! spidey writes books here!!!

  149. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 12:56 am #

    Sheriff reports to Congress on the violent crime wave by Somali MUSLIM Gangs that is endangering Americans

  150. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 12:57 am #

    The un controls who is a refugee. Yep. And notice it’s always black muslims who get in. Never Christians. Seeing how it’s the muslims slaughtering the Christians in every country, why are the muslims needing refuge?
    Like I say I can not c/p 30 lines here…
    But 8man writes books here.

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  151. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 1:01 am #

    and if only the USA had something to sell to the darling Chinese….wouldn’t that make ALL the difference? My god, Americans would sell their mothers to China if there was a market for it… Or, conversely, if only the Chinese would buy stuff from the USA… gosh.. think on it. jobs, taxes, manufacturers, jobs, food, income, jobs, oh golly.. The dream of the USA.
    Actually, antisoak, China is merely 20% of AU’s export market, a large figure, certainly, but not the whole of it. 80%.( thats 100% minus 20%) goes elsewhere, and of that 20% not all of it is what you call resources. But you dont want to know this, it is inconvenient and rather invalidates your fury. And thats not what my post is all about at all. Its about my encouragment to poor Vladdy in the task set before him, and you should encourage him also. You know it makes sense.

  152. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 1:03 am #

    Or the exception proves the rule.
    I wrote that for the pun. I actually agree. The pitcher puts his pants on the same way everybody else does onle leg at a time and should bat like everyone else does too. Stratification of society leads to unhappiness and the designated hitter rule while seemingly a small and inconsequential thing silently corrupts the youth. Unnecessary hierarchy leads to suffering.

  153. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 1:26 am #

    Since he never comments on anything in Jim’s articles he may need some help.
    Shall we:
    “Thus, we are truly fortunate that the long emergency is upon us, because now circumstances will compel us to do things differently.”
    So whites should embrace pain and suffering just because there are shortages of stuff? The third world hordes will be most glad to take our share. A collapsing empire returning to primitive roots. – RV

  154. Mike Hunt December 11, 2012 at 1:42 am #

    What’s a koori?
    Take your time…
    She’ll be right, mate.

  155. Mike Moskos December 11, 2012 at 1:58 am #

    Today, the Miami (Florida) preservation board denied historical preservation status to the Miami Herald building which sits on Biscayne Bay. It will get replaced by some amount of starchitect designed condos/shopping/hotels/retails.
    It is, at first glance, a stupendously ugly building, but I can help but think the new property owners are really missing out on something in their plans to level it. Any architect/landscape designer could readily remake it into something worth caring about, because it really doesn’t need much. The new building that replaces it will lack the joy of being in an old newspaper building, that sense of history. It just be another high end place, that could be in any town anywhere.

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  156. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 2:26 am #

    You don’t know how to look up Koori on the internet??
    good lord.. no wonder the USA is broke arse busted.

  157. Pucker December 11, 2012 at 2:30 am #

    Do you happen to know of any instances when the “patients” in a mental hospital have force ably taken over the mental hospital and then made all kinds of crazy demands?

  158. Pucker December 11, 2012 at 2:43 am #

    What is the name of that Steven Siegal movie where he plays a hard-ass Navy Seal dispatched to save that brain-less, blond chick in a bikini with huge breasts? Thanks.

  159. nameta9 December 11, 2012 at 3:30 am #

    Discover Electricity a Million Times!
    So any system of constraints, of impediments of interdictions that Matter imposes upon itself, imposed upon a subset of itself (a chunk of a slab of Matter acting as an Observer, as the Subject compared to the other parts of itself, of the slab acting as Objects (but they can mixed up, or a monolithic linear slab of continuous Observers and subjects mixing and converting into each other and all cases in between and such)), and the forcing of that subset (in the instantiation of an Observer, a Processor, a kind of Man Brain type and similar, but I mean something trillions of times deeper, more sophisticated and such) to navigate a Universe type can simulate and project upon any Experience Set imaginable: it can also correspond to the experience set of a scientist discovering Electricity all over again and such (or equivalently, as the equivalent Information Relationship Set and such). SO you can imagine an organization of Matter that is flat up to the point of being one bit and such, hence impossible to discover anything, but you can fool it into becoming infinitely deeper than anything our world resembles and such, and all cases in between, so the fake scientist chunk of matter can discover electricity all over again in a certain configuration of matter, or can discover things trillions of times better and more exciting, or can be closed on a flat one bit universe where all is discovered but enjoy deeply anyways, or vice versa and so forth…
    So Matter self programs a part of itself with a Knowledge Set and Possibility Set and lets that subset of itself live a life and experience in an arbitrary Universe according to how the Chunk of Matter representing the Observer is programmed, the memories it has, the Information Set it has and all of the rules of engagements and the arbitrary interdictions and impediments the chunk of matter (acting as the Processor, a kind of Man Brain) must navigate through in order to exist and live, as the opposition to constraints is what defines its experience set and life style and such.
    SO Matter casn self manipulate itself and create any kind of Observer, any kinds of constraints, any kinds of rules of engagements the Observer must follow and overcome in order to navigate the completely arbitrary and programmed Universe Type Matter decides to impose upon itself.
    So imagine discovering Electricity all over again (of course your memory has been erased so you don’t know all the further – future knowledge, but the same way memories are erased to let you lose knowledge, the same way it can be written to to increase your knowledge infinitely, it doesn’t matter what correspondence to truth it has is, it just must have some correspondence to a configuration of Matter inventing itself, being its own boss and such).
    Matter self manipulates itself and creates its own Observers, constraints and Navigation Path Sets, its own impediments to simulate anything even discovering Electricity (and even similar and more incredible things trillions of times higher and over and over again and such).
    We are at the end of Science, now only modified brains will give us new knowledge, unless we erase and rediscover forever old knowledge, but old and new are arbitrarily defined, time is a joke, invent all, lie to all, Matter loves to Lie to itself…
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  160. Yossi December 11, 2012 at 4:12 am #

    You might profit from reading the following:
    “In the struggle to feel superior rather than inferior, we will sacrifice anything, even life itself, for attention, praise, applause. We will climb mountains, career ladders, pop charts. We will write blogs, books, songs, screenplays just so our ego can cock a leg and ‘make a mark’.
    The ultimate problem is that the ego, the idea that we are ‘special’, is a fiction. Because it is a non-existential, thought-based, imagined phenomenon it cannot be satisfied. How can we permanently fulfil that which does not exist? Like any addiction, the more we feed it, the needier, more uncomfortable and poisonous it becomes. We need more of the drug to bring the high we initially felt from a single retweet.
    The ego is above all characterised by seriousness and self-control – it demands respect and admiration. It is constantly fearful that a tiny slip will expose the self-seeking reality. The egotist feels uncomfortable and vulnerable in the presence of self-ridicule and humour. How cringe-making it is to see the celebrity ego – so comfortable when angrily hammering the table about serious issues – bewildered and lost as people start joking and laughing.
    Every effort we make to be ‘special’ – though it might be specially kind, compassionate, politically progressive – is commandeered by the ego that is the deepest cause of suffering. We can only learn to see the pointlessness of trying to be something other than that which we are – ordinary. When we understand that there is in fact nothing to achieve and nowhere to go – because all paths lead to ego – ‘the spring comes and the grass grows by itself’.” – John Edwards. See http://www.medialens.org/ for more.

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  161. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 4:16 am #

    Might I suggest The Middle Path?

  162. nameta9 December 11, 2012 at 4:21 am #

    Then you may want to check out:

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  164. Radu Voda December 11, 2012 at 6:03 am #

    Ever see the Chant of Jimmy Blacksmith? I imagine you as the half breed hero complete with a loyal but dumb full blood abo side kick.
    Also liked The Last Wave. What the Abo says is true: Men don’t matter – the Law does. That’s how things stay good – by Sterness, Rigor, Harshness. You’ve got to be cruel to be kind.
    Go to the Arch Druid Report – the Liberal Whites will worship you as a Non White. They are sick and crazy – but you know that don’t you? Whom the Gods wish to kill they first drive mad. Just go out into the desert and wait – we all might be gone in a couple of decades.

  165. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 6:52 am #

    Fail, Vladdy.. fail fail fail fail fail fail fail…. your weakness and impotence prevented you from any skerrick of success. fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail….
    so weak.. so predictable,.. so frail, so feeble feeble feeble feeble feeeeeeble, Vladdy.. so terminally relentlessly naturally congenitally feeble feeble feeble.. .. ..
    Minyma-ngku tjitji ngayu-lu, Vladdy… !!

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  166. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 7:05 am #

    of course, for those that are curious, you could ask Vladdy to translate for you. He apparently speaks Arunta, Wurridgeree, Greek, Danish, Swedish, French, Polish, Russian, Arabic, Farsi, Burkina Faso, Swahili, Kiswahili, Xhosa,Somali,Ebonics,Cracker,Spanish,Portugese,Armenian,Rumanian, Bulgarian, Slovakian,Slovenian,Italian, Sicilian,Maltese,Hebrew, Russian, Japanese,Mandarin, Cantonese,Polynesian, Micronesian,Maori,Bantu,Finnish, Norwegian,Pidgin,Papuan,Indonesian,Balinese,Thai,Hindu, Urdu,Tibetan,oh there is nowhere he he doesnt claim to be ‘conversant’ with. Years of Vladdy’s dribblings from the signals of places Vladdy can only dream about. Endlessly hilarious.
    and a Merry and Joyful Christmas to any sane American out there, cheer up. Stand up. Be counted. Don’t fold up.

  167. eud2e5s7 December 11, 2012 at 8:35 am #

    Dem kriselnden Fu?ball-Drittligisten SV Babelsberg 03 droht ein noch tieferer sportlicher Fall als bislang angenommen. Der Aufsichtsrat des Klubs sprach sich nach einer Krisensitzung dafür aus, in der n?chsten Saison zwei Klassen tiefer in der Oberliga an den Start zu gehen.

    ?Es scheint im Moment unm?glich, die Forderungen des DFB für die Drittliga-Lizenz zu erfüllen“, hie? es in einer Mitteilung. Die Idee, in der kommenden Saison in der vierten Liga (Regionalliga) anzutreten, sei wegen nahezu identischer Lizenzauflagen keine echte Alternative. Das wesentliche Ziel müsse sein, den Verein in seiner Basis zu erhalten.

    Am Montag hatte Babelsbergs Pr?sident Rainer Speer erkl?rt, dass der geplante Gesamtetat von 2,7 Millionen Euro bislang nur zur H?lfte gedeckt sei. Offenbar fehlen dem Drittligisten, der die vergangene Saison als Tabellen-13. abschloss, 1,5 Millionen Euro. Bis zum 1. Juni muss das fehlende Geld beim Deutschen Fu?ball-Bund (DFB) nachgewiesen werden, ansonsten droht die Er?ffnung eines Insolvenzverfahrens und der damit verbundene Zwangsabstieg.

  168. Collapse Watch December 11, 2012 at 8:58 am #

    A Radu Voda protégé, and she says it more eloquently than Radu.
    I got 15 kids and someone’s gonna pay for me
    laydeelockz15 for president, 2016. She beast Hillary, hands down…and up!!

  169. ccm989 December 11, 2012 at 9:14 am #

    Great, evocative column as usual! Full of hope and holiday cheer! At just the right time. I will be up in Washington County area, visiting colleges with my soon-to-be a college freshman daughter. Wasn’t especially thrilled with the idea of visiting schools but reading your article and looking at some lovely photos, now I am looking forward to see it for myself. The world may run out of oil, the world may run out of money but it will never run out of the human spirit. God bless you everyone!

  170. ozone December 11, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    To your Howl-iday wishes: The same backat’cha!
    To your poking of the lace-lined-lederhosen boy: LOL!

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  171. Mike Hunt December 11, 2012 at 12:08 pm #

    That was humor; sorry you missed it.
    You should hang out with asoka with this need of yours to feel superior.

  172. Kyooshtik December 11, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    your dreary lame old dribble,
    It’s drivel, Pepp.
    When you only use your ears it’s easy to think you have heard dribble when you have heard drivel. Try reading.

  173. wardoc December 11, 2012 at 12:43 pm #

    The performers are finished with their concert. As the townfolk mill about talking and socializing, sipping wine and eating homemade cakes, the sound of horse’s hooves can be heard in the distance. That’s General Bethlemhem’s militia coming to take their cut of the recent harvest, rape several of the more attractive women, and take a half dozen or so new young male recruits away to serve in their militia army. Welcome to the real world made by hand.
    Happy Holidays to all.

  174. Rhino December 11, 2012 at 12:49 pm #

    Mr One Percent (this time appearing as Asoka:), can you please explain to all the economic illiterates why it is that oil is now between 85 and 90 USD per barrel.
    I ask because in November 1998 the price was around 10 US bucks per barrel. In 2002 it was around 23 US bucks per barrel.
    So that means that between 1998 and 2002 the price of oil more than doubled, between 1998 and 2012 it rose roughly ninefold.
    I suppose to One Percenters a ninefold increase in the price of oil doesn’t really hurt. Filling the tank I guess to you is chump change right? Or maybe it is to your mommy and daddy.
    As a matter of fact a nine times increase may be good if the portfolio is freighted with oil stocks. Right? So maybe, College Boy, you can enlighten us on that also.
    Did your mommy and daddy load you up on oil company shares? Did they pay a good dividend yield? Do tell.
    I’ll bet a lot of One Percenters are walking around rich, fat and happy. Aren’t they? Yeah, I’ll bet they are.
    So let’s have a peek at Exxon. In November 1998 the stock price adjusted for dividends and splits was about 27 bucks. As of yesterday the stock price is about 88 bucks. Not bad.
    So tell us, College Boy, did your daddy buy you a heap of Exxon?

  175. The Preservationist December 11, 2012 at 12:54 pm #

    It must have been magical! The “real” people do get it, are getting it, and will continue to “get it” even as the Walmartians march likes lemmings into the abyss.

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  176. bearfoot December 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

    be careful with braggin’ rights,and don’t hold your breath til you have to eat those words … there are many scenarios coming our way that will bring a chaotic world into being, most will cause runaway inflation, and/or a slow down (stop?) in the world-wide chain of commerce. much of which has been discussed here, sometimes by you!

  177. bearfoot December 11, 2012 at 1:12 pm #

    be careful with braggin’ rights,and don’t hold your breath til you have to eat those words … there are many scenarios coming our way that will bring a chaotic world into being, most will cause runaway inflation, and/or a slow down (stop?) in the world-wide chain of commerce. much of which has been discussed here, sometimes by you!

  178. Dwayne Deslatte December 11, 2012 at 1:19 pm #

    “My Grandma Told Me The Good Old Days…Were No DAMN GOOD” – Reflection on the good old days —> http://stuckinthemiddlewithu.com/2012/12/10/my-grandmother-said-the-good-old-days-were-no-damn-good/ Great joke (true story) at the end of the article!

  179. Radu Voda December 11, 2012 at 2:26 pm #

    No, you see that’s what I’m against. So much for your reading comprehension. Wait, did you just call her a beast? Racist? I’m not surprised btw – Liberals tend to be secret racists.

  180. Radu Voda December 11, 2012 at 2:30 pm #

    Ok, do you really want to talk? Why do you want or not care, if Australia becomes an Asian majority Nation? Do you really think the Chinese or Muslims will treat you better than the guilt ridden Whites have? Do you have any idea how racist the Chinese are? Even the dark skinned Southern Chinese are often looked down upon. And the Southeast Asians are just scum to them.

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  181. Radu Voda December 11, 2012 at 2:33 pm #

    You nailed it. He showed up last year briefly. First thing he does is say he’s an Aboriginee. He’s used to getting a certain reaction from Whites – else why bring it up right away?

  182. Radu Voda December 11, 2012 at 2:36 pm #

    The Ozone savage is pleased and full of glee. Leftists are ideological savages so of course they like other savages as long as they have the same enemies.

  183. nameta9 December 11, 2012 at 2:38 pm #

    Mundane Babble (blabber ? ramblings ? or 1965 Rambler …)
    Abstraction Kit. Ape Cock says. So sentences and blocks of text condense always to the very last sentence or word or concept or letter or bit, the condensation of all past events into one item and entity, the conclusion of all is always the very last instantaneous configuration of bits in the Universe, or bits in the Abstraction Kit Set and such. But you can also go backwards or jump around all over the place within all of the blocks of text ever written, you can create any path, any wild and crazy path through all items and entities in the “world” (or even just some, like a pebble and car tire and the word GOD create a new concept and conclusion and such) all bits and numbers and letters, and every point can become the final conclusion, the result of all of the effort, the final number with respect to all of the sequential sequences of entities that finally compose a “conclusion” and such.
    So the final word or concept in the last paragraph is composed of all of the entities in the Universe that lead up to it, reductionism, the decomposing of a word into its constituent parts, but really a word is composed of all of the words that lead up to it, like an atom, they rotate around the final word, but not just metaphorically but actually, really, a true construction and such.
    So all can be composed of all else, reductionism, explosionism and such and so forth. But all is a repetition, but you can invent infinitely different, and assign each bit infinitely different from the previous, or all is a monolithic block of the same, no differences between anything and all cases in between, and extend, project, projections all over the place, invent the craziest, make it all go wild, make it all hang out and such. And this is all nothing compared to what crosses my mind, all of the combinations and all of the extensions and abstractions and recursions.. you would never believe it, I am trillions of times more powerful than GOD or any GOD, I am the ULTRA GOD, Nietzsche would understand, Richard Feynman would have fun with my ideas of Matter creating its own Universe and Laws of Physics and such.
    But such is the case, it isn’t Matter that really creates new Universes and Laws of Physics, it is an Abstraction Kit, a set of symbols and Information Relationships that can create events within itself, a monolithic slab of pure existence that creates universes and never ending surprises and such, and it can go on and on. And abstractions within abstractions ever further removed denotations, ever more abstract and also becoming infinitely real through completely new and powerful sense systems and sense organs and emotion systems, trillions of times more intense than anything you could ever imagine, but also invisible and all possible cases in between and outside of the set and so forth, and ever more, like an atom bomb and my thoughts and concepts explode like an atom bombs with trillions of new things, incredible, you would never know or imagine, not even any GOD could imagine my level, the greatest possible genius of all time, I know all I am infinitely greater than all of civilization I am the ULTIMATE.

  184. Pucker December 11, 2012 at 2:47 pm #

    In this overly-complex, hyper-technical age of techno-gadgets and constant texting, it seems that people are just too busy to take the time to sit down, relax, contemplate and write something thoughtful on the bathroom wall. I feel like society has lost something.

  185. edkerr10 December 11, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    It’s gratifying to hear that you had a pleasing holiday experience in a building that had the charm that is missing in much of today’s architecture. I have read your take on today’s suburbs, cities and places and agree, for the most part, with your assessments.
    I would like to, however, comment on “The Long Emergency” as I just finished reading it. Actually about an hour ago. To digress: I was visiting friends in Oregon a few weeks back and was introduced to a friend of a friend named Mark. It turned out that Mark and I were both concerned about energy (I’ve blogged about it for a while now) and we came to disagree on whether there were any “solutions” that might allow us to avoid the dystopian picture that you paint in TLE. I had never heard of you and Mark gave me TLE to read (he bought 50 copies and gives them to anyone who will read it)
    Anyway on the way home on the plane I was able to get through enough of the book to decide that you might be wrong when you claim that NO solutions were possible. I thought, doesn’t he know that we could generate all of the electricity that we need if we seriously ramped up wind, solar etc??? Perhaps he isn’t aware of the progress in liquid fuels that algae promises? So I decided to write you. So this is that writing and I hope that you read your comments.
    But something happened on the way to the forum. I was subjected to some new information on global warming. In my blog (energyquicksand.com) I mostly avoided the issue thinking that “fossils will become depleted” was reason enough to ramp up alternatives. Then I found Guy McPherson and listened to a talk that he is giving anyplace that they will let him speak. You own comments on climate change were ephemeral, at best, and I attributed that to the fact that (which I believed until a few days ago) it was linear and would not in the end matter all that much. This talk changed that for me.
    Then I found a talk from ’07 ’08 maybe, by Davis Wasdell that increased my understanding of the physics behind climate change or, if you will, AGW.
    If you take the time to research this issue in depth you will become even more despondent than you wrote about in TLE.
    Looks to me that you’ve been one upped on dystopia to the Nth degree. What I get from this is that we have committed suicide and have yet to realize it. Wish that I could live to 2060 to know for sure (I’m 67 now so that’s not likely) However, the writing on the wall should be readable long before then.
    With best personal regards,

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  186. TransitionMom December 11, 2012 at 3:08 pm #

    Thanks for the lovely post. More celebration spaces! More songs and parties and rejoicing!

  187. Pucker December 11, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    HH wrote: “Hey Pucker, instead of posting stupid questions like do people still write on bathroom walls why the hell don’t you just go in one and look? And why do you think we give a rats ass about some stupid thing you did in high school?”
    I agree! And that’s what I told my obese, homosexual high school Principal.
    I said to him: “Look Fat Ass! Nobody gives a rats ass about what I write on the bathroom wall!”
    And yet there he was: This big, huge obese blob-of-shit shouting at me because of something that I allegedly wrote on the bathroom wall. And then just a few weeks later there he was parading around in his Santa Claus costume in front of the whole f…cking school acting like he was Hot-Shit….

  188. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 3:21 pm #

    Did you do it?

  189. cougar_w December 11, 2012 at 3:22 pm #

    Hi Jim, reading about the old building and sensing your love for it suddenly reminded me of a short fictional story I wrote many years ago, about the importance of a similar kind of structure in moving events. We don’t just live within our buildings nearly as much as they come to live within us:
    I hope you enjoy it. I think you might. And do not be alarmed if you recognize the woman; she is in her proper place and playing her usual role, being defender of the truth.

  190. Zed Leppt In December 11, 2012 at 3:24 pm #

    Thanks for the small-town Christmas dispatch James – an unexpected dose of optimism. Did a bell ring and an angel get its wings? And were those kids paying attention or tweeting ‘n’ texting while you sawed on the fiddle? After the spiked egg nog and rum balls kick in it probably doesn’t matter.
    While Cambridge sounds lively, your essay got me thinking of the small town main streets I’ve passed through over the years and of the bleakness an decrepitude of so many of these places, the empty storefronts, rotting facades, rusting gas pumps, fading signage. But then there are those few exceptions which seem to thrive on nothing more than their own quaintness, antique shops, artist studios, yoga retreats, etc. They have an Brigadoon-like aura, happy bustling villages that appear once every century, then vanish.
    Deprived of a fix of Kunstler cynicism this week I started reading Sinclair Lewis’ “Main Street”, a satirical (and occasionally mean-spirited) look at the lives of small townfolk just before the start of the “Roaring 20’s”. The landscape and citizenry are descibed from the point of view of an educated woman from St. Paul, MN after she marries and moves to the home of the doctor from Gopher Prairie, MN, wooed in part by his glowing descriptions of his beloved little town. On the post-honeymoon train trip to her new home she feels a creeping sense of dread as the “towns as planless as a scattering of pasteboard boxes on an attic floor” pass by her window and she wonders what the hell she’s committed herself to.
    Lewis’ prose is full of passages like this, “Here–she meditated–is the newest empire of the world; the Northern Middlewest; a land of dairy herds and exquisite lakes, of new automobiles and tar-paper shanties and silos like red towers, of clumsy speech and a hope that is boundless. An empire which feeds a quarter of
    the world–yet its work is merely begun. They are pioneers, these sweaty wayfarers, for all their telephones and bank-accounts and automatic pianos and co-operative leagues. And for all its fat richness, theirs is a pioneer land. What is its future? she wondered. A future of cities and factory smut where now are loping empty fields? Homes universal and secure? Or placid chateaux ringed with sullen huts? Youth free to find knowledge and laughter? Willingness to sift the sanctified lies? Or creamy-skinned fat women, smeared with grease and chalk, gorgeous in the
    skins of beasts and the bloody feathers of slain birds, playing bridge with puffy pink-nailed jeweled fingers, women who after much expenditure of labor and bad temper still grotesquely resemble their own flatulent lap-dogs? The ancient stale inequalities, or something different in history, unlike the tedious maturity of other empires? What future and what hope?”
    Hmm, change the description of those women to silicone stuffed, Botox injected hedge fund manager’s trophy wives and Lewis’ pessimistic vision sounds spot-on 90 years forward.
    Poor Gopher Prairie gets a good going over too, “It was not only the unsparing unapologetic ugliness and the rigid straightness which overwhelmed her. It was the planlessness, the flimsy temporariness of the buildings, their faded unpleasant colors. The street was cluttered with electric-light poles, telephone poles,
    gasoline pumps for motor cars, boxes of goods. Each man had built with the most valiant disregard of all the others. Between a large new “block” of two-story brick shops on one side, and the fire-brick Overland garage on the other side, was a one-story cottage turned into a millinery shop. The white temple of the Farmers’ Bank was elbowed back by a grocery of glaring yellow brick. One store-building had a patchy galvanized iron cornice; the building beside it was crowned with battlements and pyramids of brick capped with blocks of red sandstone.”
    Now that’s a kindred spirit and fellow architecture critic to JHK.
    On town politics, here is Gopher Prairie’s business titan expounding on the evils of wealth distribution, “All this profit-sharing and welfare work and insurance and old-age pension is simply poppycock. Enfeebles a workman’s independence—and wastes a lot of honest profit. The half-baked thinker that isn’t dry behind the ears yet, and these suffragettes and God knows what all buttinskis there are that are trying to tell a business man how to run his business, and some of these college professors are just about as bad, the whole kit and bilin’ of ’em are nothing in God’s world but socialism in disguise! And it’s my bounden duty as a producer to resist every attack on the integrity of American industry to the last ditch. Yes—SIR!”
    I better double-check that last passage – it may actually have been in one of Paul Ryan’s campaign speeches.
    Well, that’s enough morose sentiment. Lewis’ lengthy geographical descriptions read alot like JHK’s screeds and his unflattering depiction of farm community residents are reminiscent of Jim’s southern-tattooed-NASCAR-fan character assaults. The sharp wit and clever social commentary in “Main Street” will likely appeal to CFN readers looking to kill a wintery afternoon.

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  191. Pucker December 11, 2012 at 3:24 pm #

    Santa thinks that he’s such Hot-F…ck’n-Shit because he wears that red suit in front of those puny elves dressed in green who are always suck’n up to Santa.
    Santa flies around in the fancy sleigh act’n like a Big-Man….

  192. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 3:25 pm #

    Do you have any idea how racist the Chinese are?
    Yes, firshand experiance as a matter of fact.

  193. Treeman December 11, 2012 at 3:28 pm #

    “Fail, Vladdy.. fail fail fail fail fail fail fail…. your weakness and impotence prevented you from any skerrick of success. fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail….”
    Well it’s obvious that Vlad is powerless against your eloquence.
    Just for the record, is it the drugs that make you think that the above constitutes a reasoned argument or is it because you are 12 years old?
    If your going to argue with the Grand Wizard of the CFN branch of the KKK then at least try not to appear to be a prepubescent schoolboy.

  194. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 3:29 pm #

    The interesting thing about your scenario is that there was no mention of violence. A simple matter of tax collection. Rape by definition is violence but that definition won’t count then.

  195. Treeman December 11, 2012 at 3:45 pm #

    I have to say that this weeks column is most out of character against Jim’s usual doom and gloom. Made me quite emotional 😉
    Now is a very busy time for us as we have some acrege of Xmas trees. As you can appreciate they sell like ……. Like Xmas trees at Christmas I suppose. I may not get much time to post this next week or so. So
    Nadolig Llawen A Blwyddyn Newydd dda
    To all.

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  196. Kyooshtik December 11, 2012 at 3:55 pm #

    I have just suffered through lunch and what passes for small talk with my brother-in-law.
    Peter is generous to a fault and whenever he calls to say he is dropping over it’s “what do you want for lunch? How ’bout some Tastee Subs* and chips? Wadda you want? Tuna? Italian? What? Any preference for drinks? How ’bout cream soda?”
    * Tastee Sub is a small joint in Edison, NJ a mile from my home that has done a land office business for decades. A couple years ago Obama was in the area and his operatives arranged for him to drop in for a takeout sub, perfunctory chit chat with the owner about small business, and all the appropriate pix for the evening news. Days in advance, Security made the necessary arrangements. On BO’s arrival the usual line of customers snaking out the front door had been cleared and there was even a sharpshooter on the roof of the little building. For more, Google “Obama visits Tastee Subs.”
    As Peter wolfs down a full size Tuna Sub with cheese in amazingly short order, along with handfuls of potato chips, great swills and refills of soda, a pickle and macaroni salad on which he has inexplicably squirted a large dose of ketchup (when my wife – his sister – says she has never seen anyone put ketchup on macaroni salad he offers as sufficient explanation “I like it.”) he rants insanely about Obama…a mishmash of misunderstood Fox and/or Rush sound bites interspersed with navy level expletives. His poor 90 year old mother sitting at his left elbow is reduced to simply uttering Peter!..PETER!!
    I ask Peter “did you notice the pictures of Obama on display at the Sub Shop?” “Yeahhh, I noticed ’em…I’d like to blow the fucking place up.”
    Somehow he instantly segues from Obama to “Thug Ball,” his name for basketball and in particular the Knicks. He says “ya know, I haven’t watched the Knicks since they got rid of that kid Lin. He scored 38 points last night. I hope Houston wins the whole goddamn thing.”
    Lunch (supposedly) over, Peter’s hands and mouth are freed for full rant mode so it’s back to Obama. He finds three occasions to totally misuse the word “genre” which he pronounces “Johndra.” I want to scream; I want to rip my hair out by the roots; I am beside myself but somehow maintain a Texas Holdem poker face. An assortment of other mispronunciations is sprinkled through the wide-ranging subject matter: hors d’oeuvres becomes or-derbs, chimney is chimley, tiger is tagger.
    As Peter aimlessly wanders the kitchen lifting lids off containers to see what else is available, he downs sugar cookies and dried apricots before coming upon assorted nuts requiring cracking. The words “hunter gatherer” come to my mind.

  197. xport December 11, 2012 at 4:06 pm #

    Excellent example of current culture in USA. I just had a conversation/agrument with my son regarding democracy in America today. He screams at me for being a brainwashed liberal, and I tell him he is a delusional totalitarian republican.
    No progress in understanding the current predicament. Stonewall. We all lose.

  198. xport December 11, 2012 at 4:09 pm #

    Kooyshtik: we need a spell check on this forum.
    I meant argument.

  199. xport December 11, 2012 at 4:14 pm #

    In the mean time our democracy is constantly eroded.
    The wearing away of the everyday participation in the process of making decisions for the good of society. We are nearing a cliff, and it has nothing to do with money. We are willing to let go of all of our humanity for a wiff of extreme pleasure. The pleasure to be rich and famous, the reality show winner, the big man on campus, the tough guy with all the chicks.
    So we sell out all our values in the name of the lord. God bless us, every one.

  200. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 4:21 pm #

    He sounds like a pretty normal nice guy to me. What’s your take on changing all online literature to phonetic spelling? Mr I want to eat my collapse but I want to have it too made the suggestion last week.

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  201. xport December 11, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

    A short history of how America is getting it up the ass: In the city of brotherly love, the cradle of democracy, the powers that be have decided to overturn the will of a man who collected art and established a foundation for the education of future generations. They removed his collection of art from his foundation and placed it into a new setting for the purpose of corporate gain.
    This happend to the Barnes foundation.
    It is happening everywhere.

  202. thomas99 December 11, 2012 at 4:45 pm #

    Jimbo…are you mellowing in your old age? This was a pleasant reprieve from the usual Clusterfuck diatribe. Out here on the frozen tundra of the upper midwest, we had a similar happening of hope last Saturday when St. Paul’s beautifully restored Union Depot (built in the early 1920s) reopened as a multimodal transit center (train, bus, bike and soon, light rail) since being shuttered since 1971. It’s a building that even a new urbanist like yourself, James, would be proud of. It seemed like half the city of St. Paul turned out for last Saturday’s open house. The wife and I took it all in, and sat in the waiting room just to people watch for awhile. There was an interesting contrast between the young families whose generation will reinvent mass transit because they have no choice, and Tom Brokaw’s greatest generation for whom the original depot must have carried many memories. A number of older gentlemen stopped by the now unshuttered windows with views up and down the mighty Mississippi River…I could imagine that at least some of them were WWII vets whose departure from home for places far away might have begun with a train trip from St. Paul. More at http://www.uniondepot.org

  203. xport December 11, 2012 at 4:54 pm #

    The real question facing American and the world is how do we fuel and feed the population.
    Duh. The old answer was we take from the poor to feed the rich seems to be wearing thin. We are facing a tidal wave that will not subside.

  204. dt December 11, 2012 at 5:16 pm #

    The answer seems to be: kick the can.

  205. Collapse Watch December 11, 2012 at 5:16 pm #

    Didn’t Jesus build his church upon Peter the Rock? A good job for guys like Peter are bomb defuser in the military, or clearing a path through mine fields. You can watch them blow their tops twice, figuratively and literally.

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  206. Collapse Watch December 11, 2012 at 5:33 pm #

    Try discussing this theory with older, die-hard Christians. It cannot compute. They can’t do it. They can’t release their minds and let it go there for even a short moment.
    Scientists plan test to see if the entire universe is a simulation created by futuristic supercomputers
    Read more:

    Maybe some posters here are the programmers screwing with us.

  207. dt December 11, 2012 at 5:35 pm #

    Perhaps marijuana legalization will help feed Americans some day. Thousands and thousands of folks have bought grow lights, hydroponic equipment, etc. and have learned how to grow plants. That could help in the LE. Many small growing supply stores have maintained infrastructure to supply these new horticulturists.
    This reminds me of a conversation that I had with a young woman several years ago. She was blown away at her boyfriend’s motivation and enthusiasm for growing the cannabis plant. He is so unmotivated in his college classes, but he’s so involved in the weed growing, she said.
    Her description of this reminded me, and I mentioned to her, the definition of education as proposed by Krishnamurti. He asks if a person in a classroom who is looking out the window, bored, is really participating in “education.” I believe the jist of K’s argument was that education happens when the student is involved seriously in the learning process. “Whatever gets you through the night…”

  208. FrY10cK December 11, 2012 at 5:43 pm #

    This is one of my few comments here. Maybe my first, even though I’m a longtime reader.
    I’m a ten-year USAF vet but not a combat vet. Federal buildings scare the fuck out of me now that I’m out. From the car-bomber blockades (that’s some big government spending if you ask me) to the thug-like blue blazer security guys, federal buildings (supposed to be public places, a commons) remind me of what Jim Kunstler says:
    “To quote myself from a book published some time ago, we built a nation of scary places and became a land of scary people.”
    Every child we blow away with a drone strike, every mother whose arms are blown off by a JDAM, creates a whole family that will hate the U.S. for generations.
    I will never address you again Vlad, but read this and try to understand it. You’re on my ignore list so don’t bother responding. Just try to understand.

  209. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 5:50 pm #

    Indeed, the west coast shipyards are sending
    much to China.
    I did not state nor imply China is AU only
    export market, but a lot of its coal, etc
    go there.

  210. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 5:52 pm #

    u 2 r a lot alike!

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  211. xport December 11, 2012 at 5:52 pm #

    the original ethic is to live and let live.
    Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
    where did we go wrong?

  212. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 5:53 pm #

    perhaps marijuana legalization will help feed Americans some day.
    No, growing food feeds people.

  213. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 5:56 pm #

    Radu /vlad pegged Palin as a ‘Neocon’.
    He has [to my knowledge] never supported a war
    in his posts here.

  214. dt December 11, 2012 at 6:02 pm #

    Right, and having thousands of people learning to grow plants could possibly help that? Also, there is now a large used market for growing indoors that wasn’t there 10 years ago. Growing weed and growing food, they’re cousins.

  215. dt December 11, 2012 at 6:04 pm #

    large used market for equipment for growing indoors.

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  216. cougar_w December 11, 2012 at 6:08 pm #

    Yes the programmers are totally screwing around with you, but not until after we “fix” the global economy:
    That’s my second story-post for the thread. For some reason you people are hitting my buttons. Oh and it’s another about Fortran, the hostess with the mostest. She’s not real, not even close, but she has to be best simulation you’ve ever seen.

  217. xport December 11, 2012 at 6:09 pm #

    so Merry Chistmas everyone.
    Did Jesus Christ bring you an new consciousness?
    If He did, then you are BORN AGAIN Or Maybe not. To be Born Again into what? A new life? How is the new life superior to the old life? What does the new have to offer? Every step seems to be closer to worse.

  218. ozone December 11, 2012 at 6:17 pm #

    Very funny post! (Yeah, in a kinda tragic way, I s’pose, but doesn’t the deepest humor derive from a rather anxious reality?)
    “As Peter aimlessly wanders the kitchen lifting lids off containers to see what else is available, he downs sugar cookies and dried apricots before coming upon assorted nuts requiring cracking. The words “hunter gatherer” come to my mind.”
    That wind-up had me rollin’!
    The image that came to my mind was, “pig, escaped from sty”. Where the truffles at?
    Thanks again.
    Ps. Phonetic conversion don’t confront me; I’m flexible and adaptable. Hell, if’n we can read and understand the [painstakingly accurate] dialectic vagaries of Twain and Stevenson, I really don’t see the big trial here.

  219. ozone December 11, 2012 at 6:20 pm #

    Yes, by gum, X-pee, he did, he did!!
    Unfortunately, I was bornt “old”, so there was no noticeable effect. Damn! I was hoping for more…

  220. xport December 11, 2012 at 6:21 pm #

    So A Christmas Message would be to take up the message of Jesus and overthrow the powers of Rome and the Phillastines and give the political power to the people.
    Are we the people ready to take control?
    Do we need a leader?

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  221. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 6:22 pm #

    The skill may not be transferable. There is a lot of difference between growing indoors or out and at $1.00 a gram for electricity carrots are too expensive to eat.

  222. xport December 11, 2012 at 6:33 pm #

    The myth of Christ is that he was the savior incarnate. And he was rejected by his own tribe.
    Born of a virgin and resurrected after a horrible hanging. The sacrificial lamb of a vengefull god.
    We will be born again if we buy into this show.
    Please help me. O I am not worthy. But this crap was beat in to me year after year by very pious nuns. God help us all. Or is there a God?

  223. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 6:33 pm #

    Speaking for myself I don’t need a leader but if I ever find one I can trust I’ll let you know.
    A man that should call everything by it’s right name would soon be seen as an enemy by all. This makes truth a rare quantity and something to be highly prized.

  224. xport December 11, 2012 at 6:43 pm #

    and the leadership continues to find new ways to deny the truth. We will not call it a lie, just a new way to look at things. Reality has nothing to do with it.

  225. dt December 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm #

    Hey K-Dog:
    I hear you. I just think that certain things are transferable, like pest control, etc…
    If one gets into being productive via horticulture of herbage, it could transfer to similar endeavors. As it is now, it is come up shorticulture.
    formerly daytrip, but in homage to the big tripmaster tripp, shortened for the holidays and thereafter.
    btw, I was a (dog) hair’s breadth away from writing you in, but went Gary Johnson instead. Maybe you could help your fellows out by a courageous run as dog catcher. You could be one of the foxes guarding the henhouse!

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  226. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm #

    Yes it is, horrible to see Satan’s face in the young. I’m remembering an old movie where a Hitler youth turns in his parents. It was all those repeated images of a frying egg that did it
    Any questions?

  227. Radu Voda December 11, 2012 at 6:50 pm #

    Huh? Are you sure you have the right person? I’m a Racist and a Nationalist – like the Founding Fathers. I believe in Washington’s Farewell Adress – to stay out of foreign wars. I believe that most of our wars have been unnecessary and immoral. Certainly the ones in the Middle East fought for Israel and/or big oil.
    If you had to do it all over again, would you? Have you matured in other words? Do you know that the Sodomite Multi this and Multi that Empire is not worth fighting for? That the abominable Rev Phelphs is correct? Sure he’s rude as hell, but you see, certain things trump decorum – even the ultimate one of a military funeral. These rituals reinforce the mindset that keeps us from changing for the better.

  228. Kyooshtik December 11, 2012 at 6:51 pm #

    I just had a conversation/agrument with my son
    Definition of agrument
    A heated discussion between two farmers.

  229. Radu Voda December 11, 2012 at 6:56 pm #

    He’s just sitting up in a tree with his palm pilot, chattering away with his thumbs – a high tech monkey high on hate.

  230. ozone December 11, 2012 at 6:56 pm #

    That’s a reeeeeeally interesting concept, but I don’t think that there are any intelligences up to that kind of massive resource/energy manipulation. (Of course, that could be the deal-breaker right there; a simple lack of imagination on homo-not-so-sapiens part.) Aren’t there far too many countervailing forces and whacky meldings and rending-asunders as it is? Still…

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  231. xport December 11, 2012 at 6:56 pm #

    In an all inclusive democracy you are one of us.
    Please give us a break when we come before your magisty.
    What we want in a democracy is to be considered as a person in a land of persons. This may be too simple for an elite to understand, but we can school you on what it means to be a person.

  232. xport December 11, 2012 at 7:07 pm #

    And to direct your forces to invade any nation at ahy moment in time suits your agenda.
    Shame on you and your mentality.

  233. dt December 11, 2012 at 7:11 pm #

    Definition of agrument
    Couldn’t it be a statue (monument) to farming? Agriculture (vs. Horticulture), which Rousseau was one of the beginnings of the end.
    Perhaps a 10 foot high bronze ear of Iowa gmo #2 corn? Food for the masses, and the cows.
    “But from the moment one man began to stand in need of the help of another; from the moment it appeared advantageous to any one man to have enough provisions for two, equality disappeared, property was introduced, work became indispensable, and vast forests became smiling fields, which man had to water with the sweat of his brow, and where slavery and misery were soon seen to germinate and grow up with the crops.
    Metallurgy and agriculture were the two arts which produced this great revolution. The poets tell us it was gold and silver, but, for the philosophers, it was iron and corn, which first civilised men, and ruined humanity”. Rousseau

  234. Bustin Jay December 11, 2012 at 7:11 pm #

    Asoka(?) said “As Bustin Jay said, we are facing a very serious and very severe climate situation. The permafrost is beginning to melt. The scientists are admitting their models underestimated temperature change.”
    The real world sends new data, and the models are tested. In hindsight, they should have assumed a much larger release of CO2. They should have assumed a greater growth rate in energy intensity. I would have. But this reveals the bias toward a conservative estimate by the modelers. Which is typical.
    I’m afraid the statistics and models are going to have a limited effect in impressing on people the gravity of the situation. They just don’t understand it. It doesn’t matter how accurate the media reports it or what celebrity endorses it.
    The negative logarithm of the hydrogen ion has no referent for the popular imagination.
    The information isn’t going to trickle down and transmogrify into something resembling a new social ethos of enlightened sacrifice.
    Right now we have a “climate cushion”. Thats going away. Its already been dramatically pulled back to reveal the consequences: hurricanes and tornados occuring where they shouldn’t. Droughts more expansive than ever before. Shocks to the economic framework of the FIRE economy will be perceived well before the shocks to the biological community.

  235. ozone December 11, 2012 at 7:14 pm #

    Shame? What is this word you speak, and however will we teach its’ meaning to a tick-like pest?
    -Quintus the Questioner

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  236. ozone December 11, 2012 at 7:21 pm #

    “Perhaps a 10 foot high bronze ear of Iowa gmo #2 corn? Food for the masses, and the cows.” -dt
    “Food for industry; food for the dead!”
    [Bit of unintentional prognostication from Firesign Theater.]

  237. ozone December 11, 2012 at 7:22 pm #

    Original was: SHOES for industry, etc.

  238. Radu Voda December 11, 2012 at 7:30 pm #

    Sounds like a Great Guy – a real brick in the wall/chip of the old block. The kind of guy who landed on the shores of Normandy – or the shores of the next world as Ronaldo Magnus put it.

  239. Radu Voda December 11, 2012 at 7:34 pm #

    A person? What a frail silly thing that sounds. Give me Men to match my Mountains, Califoria says. She also says, “The Cowards never started and the weak died along the way”. Persons indeed. Solzhenitsyn lauds individuals, great personalities – Not persons or biped talking animals or house broken primates.

  240. xport December 11, 2012 at 7:38 pm #

    be afraid.
    Be very afraid.
    The powers that be have just put a hit on our site.
    Everything that you say will be held against you.

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  241. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 7:40 pm #

    I hope I got at least two votes, I know I got one, mine. As for being dog catcher that won’t cut it. I’m thinking supreme leader might though. As for being a fox guarding the henhouse I’m happy to take no more than my fair share. Every man dies but few really ever live. That’s the sort of thing that appeals to me. I actually would get off on doing real substantial good. Attachment to material things motivates the common dog but not me. I’m more enlightened than that for I have learned of the impermanence of all things without loosing my mind.
    Good for voting for Gary, that sends a message. Enough dogs start barking and maybe somebody will start listening.

  242. xport December 11, 2012 at 7:45 pm #

    we know who you are
    we know where you live.
    turn yourself in.

  243. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 7:51 pm #

    It’s drivel, Pepp.
    When you only use your ears it’s easy to think you have heard dribble when you have heard drivel. Try reading.
    When you think you have it nailed, Kyooshtik, thats when you are most likely to fall on your arse..
    drib·ble (drbl)
    v. drib·bled, drib·bling, drib·bles
    1. To flow or fall in drops or an unsteady stream; trickle
    1. A weak, unsteady stream; a trickle.
    2. To let saliva drip from the mouth; drool.
    Dribble I wrote and dribhle is what leaks from Vladdys faulty faucet. Drivel, Dribble, and Drool. Ditto your faucet.
    May I suggest YOU try reading, and your rant about your poor BIL who cant pronounce words was so full of unintentional irony in the light of your clanger that even my little dog laughed .
    When mext you decide to engage me, Ky, make sure you have it ALL lined up. Think it thru, take deep breaths, and take your time.

  244. dt December 11, 2012 at 8:06 pm #

    I was on the fence for quite awhile as far as my vote goes. I took the test online (link from the Libertarian website, though I think it was legit, since I had seen it elsewhere). Based on my answers, it said I agreed with Gary’s party’s platform the most. I figured, what the heck. I wasn’t sure anyone here would even know who K-Dog was. 🙂
    The dog catcher thing was obviously tongue-in-cheek, like your candidacy, no disrespect.
    There were ideas on both sides of the mainstream 2 that I couldn’t vote for. Not really. Had you been on that questionnaire site, I may have had more info to go on. That’s really a big issue for third party candidates, access to ballots, access to media, etc. Even guys in the main system like Ron Paul don’t become media darlings by spouting off about things. Not that I agreed with everything he said, either. Shit, what did I have to lose by voting my conscience?

  245. xport December 11, 2012 at 8:12 pm #

    if you got this far in the story, then you know that there is no happy ending. Sorry to tell you that we ate all the pie and there is nothing left.
    All the oil is gone. All the fish are dead. The ocean is a mass of acid, your land is barren and your children will die. We used to have a song that said happy trails to you, but too bad, we ate your future,but we need you to keep on until it is over. See you later.

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  246. k-dog December 11, 2012 at 8:14 pm #

    Another word choice might be more appropriate. Dribble is morally neutral and does not capture the evil intent behind this whiner.

  247. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 8:15 pm #

    antisoak.. really… a LOT of it’s coal goes there? and from the west coast shipyards, ey?
    and you know this how? some vague something you heard thru your teeth fillings yet again? You’ve flicked thru a tattered atlas on a book store throwout box? You thought it sounded ‘authoritive’..??
    No coal is exported from AU from a ‘west coast’ shipyard, antisoak, for a very good reason. Are you even sure what IS on the west coast of AU? or did you just feel like drooling and dribbling? Since you are such an expert, perhaps you can figure out by now just what is shipped from the western coast of AU.. take your time.
    Iron ore goes from the west coast, coal from the east coast, and there is 2000 miles between those two points at the export shipyards location. And have you figured out why this is, you perceptive ‘researcher’ of resources worldwide?
    Admit it, antisoak. You were making a silly guess that fell flat yet again. FAIL.
    Don’t make me come back to correct you again.

  248. ozone December 11, 2012 at 8:30 pm #

    Perhaps a small modifier might put more of a point on the stick?
    How about, “syphilitic dribble”? Does that up the revulsion factor to a proper tone?

  249. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 8:31 pm #

    ‘Ok, do you really want to talk? Why do you want or not care, if Australia becomes an Asian majority Nation? Do you really think the Chinese or Muslims will treat you better than the guilt ridden Whites have? Do you have any idea how racist the Chinese are? Even the dark skinned Southern Chinese are often looked down upon. And the Southeast Asians are just scum to them.’
    so dribbles Vladdy.
    When you can talk to me about China in Mandarin or Cantonese, both of which I am adequately conversant in, then you may be worth talking to, until then its merely drool that falls from your addled brain. Drool, Dribble and Drivel. A weak drip that falls from a faulty faucet, just in case you are confused as well about what dribble means. Your time is over, Vladdy. Your dribblings are merely the drips of waste that pollute and taint and then vapourise uselessly and are trodden down, kicked into dust by the many feet of those actually living a life.

  250. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm #

    All the tomatos and corn and beans , cucumber, melons, the whole panoply are growing like mad, Jim, and like any gardener at the beginning of summer I am looking skywards, squinting at the horizon to see the rain band, hoping, calling for the rain band, like any vege grower the world over.
    Having survived a 12 year drought, one’s faith in rain has taken a severe jolt, one learns that it is quite possible that rain won’t fall. Not today, and not tomorrow and maybe not this season. An incredible shakeup of the psyche that never quite leaves even when it pours.
    The Govt of AU has asked me and thousands of other wheat growers here to plant more wheat due to severe drought in the USA and Russia, so I have, 3000 extra hectares, a drop in the ocean , so if there is anyone reading this blog who is in a drought area in the USA I would appreciate a line or two in regard to your take on it.

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  251. Kyooshtik December 11, 2012 at 8:51 pm #

    Ah got fitteen keeyuds and ahm disabled as whale…
    Oh, wait a minit…that was the one with the six keeyuds.

  252. Pepp December 11, 2012 at 8:54 pm #

    In Britain, the failure of the wheat crop was due to the exact opposite problem, too much rain and not enough sunlit days, ditto France, etc.. millers in the UK are importing grain at a big cost, hence the price of bread has gone up exponentially.
    My winter wheat was a bumper crop and most of it is sold, or pre-sold actually, that is, sold before it is harvested, to Iraq and Iran, who pay on the knocker and at a good price. And they have no limit to the amount they buy, either.
    Any one here in a wheat growing area of the USA? I might get lucky and get a line from an actual farmer, that would be terrific, one can only cast seed and wait, you know.

  253. Kyooshtik December 11, 2012 at 9:11 pm #

    In November 1998 the stock price adjusted for dividends and splits was about 27 bucks. As of yesterday the stock price is about 88 bucks. Not bad.
    That comes to about 6% per year when compounding annually over 14 years. Not bad but not fantastic. Personally, I would love to make 6% a year in today’s near 0% interest rate environment. Of course it’s paltry when compared to Asoka’s risk free 12.25%…wink wink.

  254. Kyooshtik December 11, 2012 at 9:43 pm #

    Kooyshtik: we need a spell check on this forum.
    I meant argument.
    What operating system do you have on your ‘pyooter? If it’s Windows 7 I may have a quick and easy solution for your problem.

  255. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 10:12 pm #

    ‘Indeed, the west coast shipyards are sending
    much to China.’
    Of the USA!
    Maybe you are the smartest guy here. If so prove it.

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  256. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 10:14 pm #

    Do not use the term ‘Homo’ round here, unless Radu is banned!!!@@@@

  257. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 10:15 pm #

    Hydroponic food is the food of last resort.

  258. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 10:19 pm #

    Id web-search ‘Texas farmers’ or ‘Montana farmers’.

  259. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 10:22 pm #

    Whats the ratio?
    Indoor ‘farms’? If it worked, farmers would be doing it.

  260. progress4spam December 11, 2012 at 10:24 pm #

    ED Kerr # 10-
    I almost skipped completely over your post because the ALLCAPS, followed by any Arabic digits, especially 1 and “0” very nearly triggered by “chinese spam SCROLL OVER defense system.”
    Glad I didn’t scroll over. Glad I clicked the links. That’s some goood dormer porn. Thanks.

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  261. progress4spam December 11, 2012 at 10:36 pm #

    – on the unsustainablility of indoor hydroponics –
    No doubt, antiS, no doubt.
    But, if I had unlimited funds, I’d have a deep limestone cave housing a small nuclear powered electric generator and redundant life support systems.
    Looks like the only way to survive and thrive after Bustin Jay’s projected events.
    Of course, I don’t have unlimited funds.
    Who has unlimited funds?
    Why, the psychopaths. And the politicians, of course – which amounts to the same thing.
    Psychopathic survivors – damn!
    The human race really may be doomed.
    Serves us fscking right, doesn’t it?

  262. Kyooshtik December 11, 2012 at 10:38 pm #

    This happend to the Barnes foundation.
    I am familiar with the situation involving the Barnes foundation. I have been to both the old (original) and new location. (The old location has a common border with the property on which sits some administrative buildings of my alma mater, St Joseph’s University.)
    I don’t know how “the powers that be” finagled things legal wise but, if I may play devils advocate, I think Barnes would be pleased in 50 years time at the far greater number of visitors that will get to see his art collection because of its new location than otherwise would have.
    As you are probably aware, the new location is nestled in an area with many other museums all of which feed off one another (The Philadelphia Museum of Art, the Rodin, the Franklin, etc.).
    Barnes was very particular on the way the art objects were positioned for display and every effort was made at the new location to duplicate the original. One beef is that the modern-ness of the building itself (its outside and its lobby and common areas) is incongruous with the old feel of the art works.
    BTW, if the USA ever makes a switch to a phonetic writing system that Orlov favors, your version of the word happened would be just fine, otherwise no.

  263. charliefoxtrot December 11, 2012 at 10:49 pm #

    topic?! what topic?! Merryhappy Chanukwanzaabuddhahindipagamas, evehdy bahdee…! i think that gets everyone…anywhich how, greetings to all and saundry- flad, you know who you aren t, and fuckyoo, you owe me fourteen trillion at last count; populous doesn t begin to take the place and area of populace…!!. so shadda fack ap until put is paid, jackasses….
    zone: koip it ep; they aint n’uther tuh toike’er ploice…

  264. progress4spam December 11, 2012 at 10:53 pm #

    Rainfall is the issue, pepp.
    Without it, most of us are doomed.
    I keep looking at that 3 degree C average global temperature increase – and thinking DAMN, that’s hot! But, maybe survivable, if the rain kept falling.
    I’m in Georgia, USA. I come from a long line of farmers. Up until the 1960’s, these devout Christian men could – in my eyes – make rain fall almost on a schedule. That ended.
    Now, most of north and central Georgia – without irrigation – grows one of two crops:
    1. pine trees or 2. beef cows.
    Mostly pine trees, to be honest.
    And the cows need surface water, or perfectly reliable electrically-pumped water.
    You fly into Atlanta in daylight in the Summer and you see the parched grey/brown carpet of drying, dying plant life in the fields. Except for the amazing, PERFECT, deep-green and verdant – circles marking center-pivot irrigation.
    It is amazing.
    Without technology, most of my countrymen are already dead where they stand. But they sure have fun pretending that they are free.

  265. dt December 11, 2012 at 11:00 pm #

    I really don’t know much about it. I have a few kale plants that I transplanted from the yard to a pot that is in a window. They’ve survived many a freezing day with the heat off when the dog’s water dish iced up. Their exclusive ei is roughly 0. They get nothing special except water. I’m thinking of building a greenhouse along the side of my home which gets nice sunlight even now, though I live in the mountains. After it’s built, the ei will be relatively low, though I may pump some heat from the wood stove out there. I may very well use the greenhouse to help heat my modestly sized home, especially in the back furthest from the stove. With many black jugs filled with water inside the greenhouse, I can retain much heat from the day. I’m looking forward to it. The greenhouse may be 10 x 25 feet , south-facing, and get direct, intense Colorado sun most of the day.
    I’m not using hydroponics, but dirt. Sorry, soil. I think some rabbit shit (ie bunny berries) may help, as well as red wigglers and compost, etc. Again, nothing extra, so more 0 input.
    I do have some plans including aquaponics with a large fish tank or two for a heat sink/thermal mass. This setup could at least extend my season several months. Again, I’m a novice, but you have to start somewhere. I enjoy the process. It’s been a lot of fun up to this point designing stuff with an eye towards further development and enhancement. I know it is small scale, but when the greenhouse is in, with the thermal mass, I could start growing kale out there probably all year. I’ll have other things like tiles, etc. to help retain heat. I could put in a heater at some point, but my stove is right next to a large window where the greenhouse will be. I could get heat out there fairly efficiently. So, considering that my wood comes from largely standing dead beetle killed pine, the main ei is gas for a truck to go get the wood. Once I get my Jean Pain wood compost heap rocking, with my methane digester…… and convert the truck (that I don’t have) to natural gas, I’ll be doing great. Hot water for showers and passive heating, too.

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  266. charliefoxtrot December 11, 2012 at 11:02 pm #

    don t make me go back through the archives; but somebody in the last few weeks referenced the ‘edifice complex’…thought that was beau’ful…and, well, appropriate…

  267. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 11:05 pm #

    are you in USA? What state?
    If you want to see Mind Control…
    go to VigilantCitizen.com
    The Bank Commercialis spooky :
    Until February 2012, Danske Bank was owned by elite financier Peter Straarup who is a member of the Trilateral Commission (created by David Rockefeller) and of the Bilderberg group. The bank’s latest commercial entitled “A New Normal Demands New Standards” is quite odd, not to say deeply disturbing and upsetting. It basically shows a bunch of things that are supposedly considered “the new normal”…And most of these things…not good.
    In fact, they reflect a whole bunch of things part of the New World Order Agenda, whether it be a police state, the repression of free speech, pushing transhumanism or brainwashing children. Yes, all of these things are slyly referred to in the commercial. I guess its message is that the bank recognizes and understands the reality of today’s world and so forth…But the resulting product depicts nevertheless a grim picture of the fuiture

  268. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 11:07 pm #

    I dont mean to ‘date’ you [pun not intended]
    but how many years you been tilling the land?
    ‘Bustin Jay’s projected events’..which are?

  269. anti soak December 11, 2012 at 11:09 pm #

    About 10? years ago I read a piece in the LA times:
    Mr Ryan can make it rain….
    a guy who learned from an injun how to move
    metal poles around to draw/make clouds.
    He really can make it rain, for a price.
    The article featured his verified work in Montana.

  270. dt December 11, 2012 at 11:20 pm #

    I’m in Colorado. Living on a rock, which makes greenhouses necessary for much gardening.

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  271. Kyooshtik December 11, 2012 at 11:44 pm #

    A good job for guys like Peter are bomb defuser in the military, or clearing a path through mine fields.
    Or, better yet, clearing a path through a buffet table. ;o)

  272. Kyooshtik December 11, 2012 at 11:53 pm #

    Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
    I think it was in Elvis’s early movie, Jailhouse Rock, that he said his motto was to “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you only do it first.” Doesn’t make any sense but it sounds cynical as hell.

  273. Kyooshtik December 12, 2012 at 12:00 am #

    Phonetic conversion don’t confront me
    You’re the only one on this blog already doing a first rate job of writing phonetically.

  274. ront December 12, 2012 at 12:01 am #

    My fellow Scamericans,
    How long can we allow that awful stench of partisanshit emanating from our Congress, especially in the OutHouse of Representatives?

  275. Kyooshtik December 12, 2012 at 12:26 am #

    Sounds like a Great Guy – a real brick in the wall/chip of the old block.
    He is. “Uncle Pete” is undoubtedly the most beloved of anyone in our entire extended family and a wide array of friends and acquaintances. He is Godfather to at least a dozen kids of both family and friends even though he is an unabashed non-believer. His Holiday feasts (Christmas, 4th of July, etc.) are legendary. He’ll lend you his truck, no questions asked and give you the shirt off his back.
    He has played Santa to everybody’s kids for 40 years. He has worked the Elk’s Club kitchen at Easter Breakfast for 30 years. He is caring for a wife who is what I refer to as “the most disabled person in the world that is not yet dead.” They have no kids.
    It is not Peter who has a problem with word usage, pronunciation, and ravenous eating, it is me.

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  276. Kyooshtik December 12, 2012 at 12:33 am #

    When mext you decide to engage me
    ha ha… mext… that’s a good one. ;o)

  277. Mike Hunt December 12, 2012 at 2:03 am #

    Something strange is afoot here on the central coast of California. Santa Cruz County…
    Monday I went for a run at low tide and for miles there were hundreds of dead squid lying on the beach. They all came in on the high tide Monday morning.
    I have no idea why and I’ve lived here all my life. All very sad, something not right here.
    Anyone out there who lives by the ocean that knows about something like this?

  278. Pepp December 12, 2012 at 3:24 am #

    ‘Indeed, the west coast shipyards are sending
    much to China.’
    Of the USA! says antisoak..
    Again. Last I saw, Norfolk Virginia, which is and has been the largest coal exporting port in the USA for some time now was on the East Coast.. if you’ve changed it round, I missed it.
    Then, there is Detroit, Michigan. 2nd , then Baltimore, then a couple of ports on the Gulf..then, hooray, Seattle on the West Coast, but its not anywhere near as large an operation, at least until the Powder River coal gets up to speed. Currently the USA ranks 4th in producing coal, of course you will know of coking coal, and steam coal, and which is which and why, yes, I am sure you do, Antisoak..

  279. Pepp December 12, 2012 at 3:46 am #

    Thankyou for your response, progress… ask and ye shall receive, perfect!….
    I just KNEW there would be someone reading Jim’s blog who was sane , articulate, and up to speed.
    The centre pivot , gee I have had them for nearly 20 years now..same ones, too, generally they have a lifespan of about 7 years, but I ‘ve been lucky.. I run them at about 12.55 mm per day, and sometimes at 5.00mm per day, and here, the opinion is divided on the yield per water (YPW) or if it can be done on less water.. same YPW.
    I take on board the technology or death conundrum seriously.. I run mine off actual water pressure, not electricity, with solar power assist, but I am still in the Oil techie loop, no matter which way I go.
    I am presuming the crop you see as you fly in is cotton? peaches? soy? tobacco? turf? thats a lot of money to expend on those crops for the return I would think but hey.. do you know if they run all year? I mean , in this current drought?
    again, my appreciation, progess.

  280. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 3:56 am #

    So one can’t talk about China (which I wasn’t per se) unless one speaks Chinese? What a pompous ass.
    I was talking about the massive Chinese immigration into Austalia which has been foisted upon the People. Surely they have the right to talk about that even if they don’t speak Chinese! English will do just fine.

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  281. nameta9 December 12, 2012 at 4:02 am #

    Bustin Jay, look at how many cars they’re selling in China! cool, atmosphere is being killed, kill it, go man go, kill nature, cool, this is Matter playing with itself, cool. Imagine all thoses cars, all those engines CO2 in the air forever, cool, all you greenies are doomed, we won, we win, those who want to be the boss of nature have won, I have won, there, you see, I win and you loose, cool go man go…
    1 Ford Focus 38,362 1 259,492 2 9
    2 VW Lavida 31,697 2 226,651 4 2
    3 Chevrolet Sail 26,143 6 258,626 3 6
    4 VW Passat 23,910 3 224,678 5 12
    5 Buick Excelle 23,381 4 261,240 1 1
    6 VW Sagitar 22,886 5 177,251 11 25
    7 Chevrolet Cruze 22,216 7 216,573 7 3
    And it goes on and on, the list keeps on going on.
    Anyways, if JHK wants to really talk about DOOM and real Resource Scarcity in a sense, he should really change topics and concentrate on Climate Change and Global Warming, that is where the action is, that will break everything long before we run out of oil (and besides we can use Natural Gas to run cars, there is a glut of that!)
    8 MAN

  282. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 4:44 am #

    In the Palouse, wheat and soybeans grow without irrigation – the climate is perfect. Rain in the spring gradually ceasing to allow the wheat to ripen. At some point, the rain actually gets in the way.

  283. Patrizia December 12, 2012 at 4:58 am #

    Beautiful post, non only for how it is written (you are a great writer as usual) but for the sentiment one can fell and enjoy through it.
    Not only Christmas is THAT, but our life IS that.
    We are born to be human and to be happy, not to consume and make money.

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  285. k-dog December 12, 2012 at 6:00 am #

    No kidding, food grown outdoors organically may look like shit but it has way more vitamins than good looking commercial fare. Hydroponic food would have to be the least nutritious of all.

  286. k-dog December 12, 2012 at 6:04 am #

    A move in the right direction but that’s not brutal enough. Something along the lies of rot death and decay.
    putrid dribble

  287. k-dog December 12, 2012 at 6:15 am #

    Chinese Immigration to Australia
    The skilled worker shortage I think is crap but perhaps the article can provide some authentic perspective.

  288. k-dog December 12, 2012 at 6:19 am #

    The link is a honeypot but you can see the article title and Google it. That should get you there.

  289. Pepp December 12, 2012 at 6:42 am #

    This is Vladdys new whine… ‘So one can’t talk about China (which I wasn’t per se) unless one speaks Chinese? What a pompous ass.’
    What you were attempting to do, vladdy, in your amateur way, was to tell me how the Chinese think. And what they think. This you cannot do unless you speak the language. Which you dont. You are barely coherent in English.
    and Vladdys further whining. .’ I was talking about the massive Chinese immigration into Austalia which has been foisted upon the People. Surely they have the right to talk about that even if they don’t speak Chinese! English will do just fine.’
    Vladdy. You are not the People. You are the Failure. So you have no rights in that regard at all. On any level.
    ‘Massive Chinese Immigration’.. ?? 30,000 ? is that massive in your lexicon of numeracy? Foisted? who is foisted? Chinese immigration has been proceeding in AU for 200 years. We love them. They are brilliant, beautiful and extremely savvy. Excellent citizens and always up for a laugh. They would do you over in a nanosecond.

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  290. Collapse Watch December 12, 2012 at 7:17 am #

    Oh, shut the hell up! Peter’s a prick. This shit gets old….”what a great guy Peter is”…”he would give anybody the shirt off his back.” Guys like Peter are what make this life dull, predictable….not worth living. They induce feelings of suicide, because having to live with Peter day in and day out makes any previously sane person ask themselves, “is this as good as it gets?” The answer to that is yes, that’s as good as Civilization gets.
    Peter is the rock upon which Civilization was built. He’s a pig….a boar, dressed in Brylcreem and a Tux. Learn to live with it, and if you can’t, take your life, because that is as good as it gets.
    It’s always the assholes who don’t have the luxury of having to launder Peter’s detritus-filled underwear that have such nice things to say about him. Nothing good should be said of any person who can’t properly wipe their ass. Think of all the deceits walking amongst us with soiled britches not-so-cleverly concealed. There will come a day when underwear checks will become mandatory, and my oh my, how the Mighty will fall.

  291. Qbala December 12, 2012 at 9:58 am #

    Jim, I enjoy all your pieces but this one was exceptional. Thank you so much!
    One glaring item you left out was the Cambridge Hotel, a classic 1800s wood frame hotel just off lovely Rt.22. As a bicycle sojourner having ridden thousands of miles around New England and NY State, that place has a character unlike any other I’ve stayed at (well, that and maybe Hotel Gunter in Frostburg, MD). Not only was it the birthplace of Pie A La Mode, but the chicken parm with spaghetti was to die for. The portion sizes were HUGE, but not to worry! The leftovers – which I simply could not take in my panniers – went to feed the pigs.
    The wood floors creeked, doors planed to shut, had furniture of the era, and mostly vintage appliances (even the toilets, with the over-sized bowl and curly base!).
    Tho’ I’ve been by it several times since, my last stay was back in 1995, and I was one of only a handful of guests on a Saturday night, so I can only hope much hasn’t changed since then. In any case, check it out.

  292. anti soak December 12, 2012 at 10:34 am #

    India may be the first country with 2 billion.
    I am seeing more [dot not feather] Indians
    in California.
    Mexico had 10? million people in 1912.
    Now the US has 80? million Latinos!
    3 billion Chindians, presently.
    What, me worry?

  293. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 11:13 am #

    if JHK wants to really talk about DOOM and real Resource Scarcity in a sense, he should really change topics and concentrate on Climate Change and Global Warming, that is where the action is, that will break everything long before we run out of oil (and besides we can use Natural Gas to run cars, there is a glut of that!)

    Thank you, nameta9.
    That makes you, me, and Bustin Jay who think this week’s topic should have been climate change, not a warm and fuzzy Christmas story.
    Peak oil pales in comparison.

  294. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 11:20 am #

    Peak oil?
    NEW YORK — The nation’s crude oil supplies increased last week, the government said Wednesday.
    Crude supplies grew by 800,000 barrels, or 0.2 percent, to 372.6 million barrels, which is 11.5 percent above year-ago levels, the Energy Department’s Energy Information Administration said in its weekly report.
    The less happy-motoring we do, the more supply will increase. Be a real conservative. Conserve.
    Embrace and enjoy the downward slope minimalist experience of energy contraction.

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  295. stelmosfire December 12, 2012 at 11:46 am #

    hello clusterfuckers, RT here. This is a test. I got banned from CFN for some reason, go figure ! My comments on large are not that odious. What gives?

  296. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 11:54 am #

    stelmosfire, welcome back. Probably not a banning, probably a technical glitch. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature of CFN. Welcome to the club.

  297. k-dog December 12, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    Ripped Thunder is that you? If so I’ll agree that there is nothing odious about you. If you have been banned I suspect it is not about you or Jim.
    Something else is going on. Another non offensive member of the community reported being banned recently. They contacting Jim and discovered he didn’t do it. Can’t remember right now who it was.
    If someone can figure out screen names and passwords they could turn an account into spam by trying to log in over and over and over again. I don’t know why any resident impediment would do such a thing. Do you?
    Why someone would try and sell things here is also mysterious especially considering the ads have no appeal whatever and are really strange.
    Go figure. Except for a small number we can count on one hand we are all really nice people don’t you know.

  298. ozone December 12, 2012 at 12:26 pm #

    Might be some germane info on this site:
    I’m a bit gobsmacked that most of the search on drought-related issues takes the form of “‘Murkin farmers making money on drought insurance”. Jeezuz, what kind of bullshit is THAT. It has absolutely nothing to do with how to really deal with drought conditions, and everything to do with the insistence that money can buy our way out of anything. This kind of emphasis is truly disgusting. (Of course I understand that large-scale farming must pay for itself, but this back-asswards approach of money over produce is not helpful in the least. How many years of drought can be paid for by insurance before they axe the money-losing policy? People don’t seem to have learned much while in the benevolent clutches of the Corporatocracy.)

  299. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 12:27 pm #

    Puppet masters, schemers, TPTB, defeated once again.
    HOUSTON — A Texas judge has ordered TransCanada to temporarily halt work on a private property where it is building part of an oil pipeline designed to carry tar sands oil from Canada to the Gulf Coast, the latest legal battle to plague a project that has encountered numerous obstacles nationwide.
    Texas landowner Michael Bishop, who is defending himself in his legal battle against the oil giant, filed his lawsuit in the Nacogdoches County courthouse, arguing that TransCanada lied to Texans when it said it would be using the Keystone XL pipeline to transport crude oil.

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  300. ozone December 12, 2012 at 12:57 pm #

    Your comments are odious in the EXTREME… I haven’t the words to express the overwhelming odious-uh-NESS of the odium!
    ;o) (Just kidding.)
    Hey, did you catch the fun of that 3-mile-wide hunk of rock that just buzzed us, betwixt us’nz and the moon? It was spotted 2 days before it hurtled by… not much of a window for preparation. ;o)
    (Oh, maybe, “Prepare to DIE, assholes!”, would be the “preparing”.)
    Enjoy! …and good to see yez.

  301. ozone December 12, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    …Beating a poor, dead animal with a stick, here.
    Read in “Teaming with Microbes” about the soil food web. It’s absolutely the heaving multitudes of organisms in the soil that produce the nutrients. Evolution of cooperative and kill-and-be-killed-in-turn beasties cannot be artificially replicated in their natural intricacies. (But one could die trying, I suppose.)

  302. ozone December 12, 2012 at 1:23 pm #

    Somebody had better edamakate themselves on the Federal Courts of Appeals. Counting chickens before they’re slain is not the wisest course…

  303. stelmosfire December 12, 2012 at 1:23 pm #

    Hey O3 not nearly as close as the moon. It is not if but when!
    Maybe 12/21/2012!
    actually 18 lunar distances. It was 4.5 Km in dia. and the wiseguys figure the Chicxulub mofo was 10-15 km in dia.
    This baby will be a dinosaur killer for sure. It is in the same orbital plane as Giai and will eventually collide bringing the cockroach back to the role of supreme life on the planet. Scientists say it will not occur for hundreds of years so I guess you and me can forgettaboutit. ;o)Oh, Merry Christmas!

  304. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 1:42 pm #

    Construction is stopped in Texas. Obama stopped it on the northern border. Construction is stopped today. The future? Appeals? Meh. Cain’t nobody say nuthin’ ’bout that. You gots a crystal ball? The important thing is that TODAY construction is stopped. Which is not what the puppet masters wanted.

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  305. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    These comments mark you: such contempt for ordinary, good people is the Mark of the Beast. If he was Black, you would be down on your knees in worship, you poor but vicious dupe.
    I agree that the Peters of the World shouldn’t be ruling – but that makes ME an Elitist right? Even though you just said the same thing but in an ugly way…

  306. ozone December 12, 2012 at 1:47 pm #

    Oops! Sorry, mixed up the stats for 2012 XE54, Dec. 11th flyby, which is about 120′ wide; similar to the size guesstimate of the 1908 Tunguska River ‘splosive.
    (Blowed up reeeal good, but not like a 3-mile or a Chicxulub planet-wiper! ;o) It’s coming around again in about 2 1/2 years. (This time it was at 140,000 mi. out; 100,000 closer than Luna.)
    If you scroll down the page on that site, there’s a nice video that includes an animation of the intersecting orbits.
    Happy Holidaze/Apocalypse backat’cha!

  307. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    Who cares what they think? It’s up to Whites to decide who comes into their own Countries…
    Maoris to be outnumbered by Chinese in New Zealand by 2026. Note to Pepp – the Maoris aren’t happy about it. Why would they be? Only a traitor like you would be.

  308. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

    That link was only for registered users. Maybe you could tell us what it says – assuming you’re willing to confront a REAL ABORIGINEE like Pepp.

  309. Collapse Watch December 12, 2012 at 1:59 pm #

    If he was Black, you would be down on your knees in worship, you poor but vicious dupe.

    Not true. The same that was said of Peter can be said of Herman Cain. Misanthropy is Equal Opportunity.
    And Tuna Melt? You have to be kidding. That alone deserves an entire post devoted just to it. Cheese and fish have no business together.

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  310. ozone December 12, 2012 at 2:00 pm #

    Somebody’s still looking for permission to berth in Peppermint Bay. Sorry, the Harbormaster has determined the “Lollipop” to be carrying a virulent pestilence that causes denial unto death. Permission… DENIED; pilot will not be provided. Bon voyage, et Bon Chance. (Plenty of provisions? No? Don’t worry, they’ll think of something.)

  311. bootsugg3s December 12, 2012 at 2:16 pm #

    Lea Michele: The Diva Rumors Aren’t True

    Glee‘s Lea Michele was already a star on Broadway before she hit it big playing Rachel Berry on the hit Fox show, but the road to Hollywood hasn’t always been the easiest — or the most kind. In a new interview with Marie Claire, the 26-year-old singing sensation denies the reports that she’s notoriously difficult to work with, as well as opens up about finding love with her Glee co-star Cory Monteith.

    “I am a very outspoken person, and if something makes me uncomfortable, you will know that it makes me uncomfortable, but that’s as far as it goes,” she tells the magazine about her attitude on set. “I can assure you that [the diva rumors] aren’t real. It’s super-frustrating sometimes, and I used to fight back, but now I feel like, ‘You can think what you want about me — that’s OK.’ I have the most amazing fans, friends, and family members who have stood by me, and I know that my cast and crew really enjoy working with me. That’s all that matters.”

    Video: Lea Michele Shrugs Off Pregnancy Rumors

    The Lea Michele diva rumors recently hit full swing, when reports surfaced that Glee guest star Kate Hudson allegedly found it a “nightmare” to work with her.

    Lea reveals that Kate actually called her up personally to assure her that the comments weren’t true.

    “[Kate Hudson went] straight to the top of my list because it was so classy of her to take a minute to [address the rumor], even though we both knew it was the biggest piece of crap in the whole world. I told her, ‘I love you, and I adore you. Thank you so much for creating a human moment with me,'” she says.

    Video: Lea Michele on Kate Hudson’s ‘Glee’ Stint

    Lea is also now obviously comfortable talking about her recently confirmed relationship with Cory — and it’s clear that she’s smitten with him.

    “I don’t even remember a time when he wasn’t my boyfriend. No one knows me better than Cory. No one knows what it’s been like to go through this more than he does,” she says. “Feeling like you have that net underneath you allows you to jump higher and go farther. He makes me feel like I can do anything. For the first time in my life, I feel really, really settled and happy. I feel like the luckiest girl in the world.”

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  312. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 2:54 pm #

    What about schwa? Is it a corruption of speech or should it be a new vowell?

  313. xport December 12, 2012 at 3:26 pm #

    Hey Wardoc,
    Lock and load. If it comes down to a shoot out, burn out and get it all out, then who do you think will be left standing?

  314. anti soak December 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm #

    Let the Maoris decide, and the Abos decide
    the fate of those lands.
    Ya know the first words the Abos shout at the
    Brits? ‘Go Away’ [thats according to ‘The Fatal Shore’].

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  315. anti soak December 12, 2012 at 3:33 pm #

    30,000 too many!
    The ‘anti White’ agenda is well under way, in the
    It can be viewed on Youtube.

  316. xport December 12, 2012 at 3:41 pm #

    Hello Kyoostik,
    Your reply explains much about you and your concerns. Being trained by the Jesuits has messed up your mind. But we are happy to have you aboard our disfunctional family blog. You keep our toes to the fire and keep us honest. Perhaps you should run for some local election and use your skills to steal a seat on some council.

  317. Kyooshtik December 12, 2012 at 3:48 pm #

    Oh, shut the hell up! Peter’s a prick.
    Seriously, what’s the problem?
    Is it the not-so-thinly-veiled racism against Obama and the other “shvartzes” and “kwanza people” who sold this monitor-reading orator (who never worked a day in his life and “never met a payroll”) their votes in exchange for more welfare?
    Or is it the malapropisms and mispronunciations? God knows I have tried to tell him there is no d in genre, there is no b in hors d’oeuvres, and there is no l in chimney. But he stares at me uncomprehendingly and finally says “whatever.” No, it can’t be that CW; Who but me gives a shit about such things?
    Or maybe it’s the cringe-inducing ravenous compulsive eating, that might be seen among wild animals on the plains of the Serengeti, of which my earlier description barely scratched the surface? One enormous jowl-bulging mouthful follows on another before the previous one has been chewed and swallowed except when a long draft of beverage is used to literally “wash it all down.” Food is smeared around the mouth and even on the cheeks (I think to myself, he must have no sense of feeling in these areas) until I get his attention and wordlessly point at the corresponding spot on my own face to indicate where he should begin napkin mop-up operations.
    Tell me Collapse Watch, which of these traits has so incensed you?

  318. xport December 12, 2012 at 3:51 pm #

    What about “right to work”? Break the back of the unions and give the prole the right to work for sub minimum wage. In New Jersey there were more illegal Mexicans on the payroll than native US citizens. There way a JEFFE, a boss who picked up his crew in the morning and delivered them to the work site, he would get paid and distribute the money to his crew as he saw fit. It was a farce. His crew was really messed up. They would waste time and material and the job would suffer, in fact they were stealing material out the back door, to send back to Mexico, but the owner was thrilled that he had lower payroll.
    Welcome to the globalized economy.

  319. Bustin Jay December 12, 2012 at 3:55 pm #

    “Looks to me that you’ve been one upped on dystopia to the Nth degree. What I get from this is that we have committed suicide and have yet to realize it. ”
    Good point and good video.
    We are so far over the cliff at this point that I find any of the regular babble from posters to be quite like the twaddle one hears from children on a kindergarten playground.

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  320. xport December 12, 2012 at 4:20 pm #

    The Barnes foundation was unique in that it was a property that was endowed with a legacy that included the building that housed a fabulous art collection, a garden and a school to teach both art and horticulture. It was meant to remain so for all time. The board of directors, after mismanaging the endowment, sought to find a way to sell off the art works. So we have another case of corporations co opting the public trust.
    You say that we, as a people are better off with the results. I disagree. The old Barnes was beautiful and unique and free. Now it is corporate and managed and not free. There is no garden, there is no school and the doors are locked to the common man, which is directly opposed to Dr. Barnes main purpose. And if you research the history, it is a slap in the face to Barnes, who had fought with the elites who run the museums along that street that now houses his collection. What could be more wrong? They have overturned his will. Why even have a will?

  321. xport December 12, 2012 at 4:33 pm #

    A book to consider is Democracy Inc. by Seldon S. Wolin. He is a teacher of political science at Princeton U. and in this book he lays out the current situation in the USA. We are now an inverted totalitarian state, having been made so over the years and especially since Reagan and Bush.
    He makes very strong points about how things have devolved to this point, and runs down the history of political systems from ancient Greece.
    The corporate capitalist capture of contemporay culture is complete.

  322. Collapse Watch December 12, 2012 at 4:35 pm #

    We are so far over the cliff at this point that I find any of the regular babble from posters to be quite like the twaddle one hears from children on a kindergarten playground.

    Jesus, chill out. Who cares, anyway? Relax. Enjoy what’s left. So what if the sky is falling? Peter will hold it up for us….until he chokes to death. What she says:
    Fear Mongering

  323. anti soak December 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm #

    Whoa Nelly.

  324. Kyooshtik December 12, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

    The Barnes foundation was unique in that it was a property that was endowed with a legacy that included the building that housed a fabulous art collection, a garden and a school to teach both art and horticulture.
    I defer to you on this issue. You are obviously more informed on the details than I am.
    At least a couple of times a year my wife and I drive down to Philly, hook up with my son and his girlfriend and make in a visit to the Phil. Art Museum. We generally combine that with one or two other museums and then dinner. The visit to the new Barnes was one such day during the first few days of their opening several months ago. I enjoyed it more so than the trip out past City Line Ave to the old location a few years earlier. On that occasion, when I pulled into the parking area behind the museum a Black parking lot attendant directed me to “drive ahead to where the uniformed woman is standing, turn right and pull up at the ticket ‘boof’.” My eyes rolled up in my head.

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  325. xport December 12, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

    F.D.R. was a great leader, and told us that there was nothing to fear, but fear itself. And he led us out or a depression and thru a world war.
    The new venue is to use fear, and to create new fear to control the population.
    If we can regain control of our destiny, then we have nothing to fear, as we will create our future.

  326. xport December 12, 2012 at 5:00 pm #

    The Barnes got co opted, and was mis managed, which is why it flunked. The board of directors put it into the hands of Cheyney State U., which is a black university. Not to be racist, but they made a mess of their responsibility.
    So now the parking situation is even worse, and Dr. Barnes is rolling in his grave.

  327. ozone December 12, 2012 at 5:10 pm #

    I’m “releasing my fear-based program” rah’cheer, raht now. (I feel lighter in my loafers somehow; I want to skip, dance and “discern”. Do I want to be more discern-ING? NOOoooooo, to discern is perfectly gooder than anything else I might dream of dreaming of!)
    What we are in dire need of is a CALM monger. They could say stuff like: “Nothing to see here, folks; move along to your homes, flip on the mass-marketing box, sit yer ass down, and get you a dose of ‘Murka the beautiful-estest. You want Cheez Doodles, or crackers ‘n’ Cheez Whizz with that?”

  328. ozone December 12, 2012 at 5:17 pm #

    Okay then.
    When’s milk and graham cracker time?
    Head-down nap time? (DAMNIT! Forgot my nap pad… again! That stupid, strumpet of an excuse for a mother will pay for this, by gawd.)

  329. xport December 12, 2012 at 5:32 pm #

    When things get really unconfortable, and your underwear is too tight, then the people will feel a need for change. Until then, tv is good enough.
    Corporate reality will see you thru.
    Until you un learn the un reality that you are being subject to.
    Welcome to the brave new world.

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  330. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 5:44 pm #


  331. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 5:53 pm #

    They’ll vote to make Whites leave too. Remember, we conquered them fair and square.

  332. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 6:06 pm #

    So you don’t hate all Whites (just most) but rather all Conservatives? That’s nice but Django hates all and wants to kill all Whites. Why should you be singled out for mercy? Pretend I’m Django: let me hear you plead for your life.

  333. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 6:10 pm #

    Didn’t that fellow Boof kill Lincoln? Or was that just a spoof? Blacks don’t like complex dipthongs at the end of oo – they want to emphasize the ooga, thus the submissive f. Likewise, Black kids say, “I aint goin’ to schoo today”.
    The lazy tongu goes with the lazy everything else.

  334. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 6:25 pm #

    I regret to inform you the good ship “Lollipop” ran into treacherous rocks in foul weather while trying to reach Peppermint Bay and sank.
    All aboard drowned. I know you will join me in sending condolences to the human family of the deceased.

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  335. Buck's A Stud December 12, 2012 at 6:43 pm #

    Yes ClusterFuck is having some sign in issues, but some things shall remain the same (running a hand through my thick mane of hair while admiring my reflection in the sunglasses of the person I’m pretending to have a conversation with).

  336. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 6:51 pm #

    The lazy tongu goes with the lazy everything else.
    Fu u

  337. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 6:52 pm #

    The lazy tongu goes with the lazy everything else.
    Fu u

  338. xport December 12, 2012 at 7:04 pm #

    So a bigot speaks for all the black kids in the world! Let me tell you something. I worked in the inner city and taught school at the secondary level, all of my classes were black kids,and all of them had an attitude.
    Some were doomed to fail, some were smarter than you or me. How dare you condemn an entire race, based on your limited experience.

  339. Barfy Barf December 12, 2012 at 8:33 pm #

    Merry Christmas. Time to put on my badge that says “It’s ok to say Merry Christmas” and get back to reading the Drudge Report and watching Fox News — Hannity is coming up soon and I can get some real news reporting.

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  341. Collapse Watch December 12, 2012 at 9:42 pm #

    So you don’t hate all Whites (just most) but rather all Conservatives?

    What Whites? Don’t know any. There aren’t any. We haven’t had that spirit here since 1969.
    Meet Radu Voda. He thinks he’s White and goes by the name
    Clayton Bigsby

  342. weour7qwnE December 12, 2012 at 9:55 pm #

    NBA trade for Philadelphia
    Philadelphia, PA (Sports Network) – Philadelphia has two superstars on its roster. When team president and general manager Billy King acquired Chris Webber from the Sacramento Kings in a multi-player deal before Thursday’s trade deadline, he gave the Sixers’ fans visions of All-Star Allen Iverson and Webber becoming one of the most exciting one-two scoring punches in the NBA. On Wednesday night, the 76ers traded forwards Kenny Thomas, Corliss Williamson and Brian Skinner to Sacramento for Webber, Michael Bradley and Matt Barnes. Webber made his debut for the 76ers on Saturday evening, as he faced his former team at the Wachovia Center. The Kings knocked off Philadelphia, 101-99, to spoil Webber’s first game in a Sixers’ uniform. The five-time All-Star Webber registered a double-double in Saturday’s loss as he finished with 16 points and a 11 rebounds in 37 minutes of action. Webber was 7-of-20 from the field and 2-for-2 from the foul line. “Chris (Webber) played 37 minutes, that’s probably too many minutes,” said Philadelphia head coach Jim O’Brien after the loss to Sacramento. “He needs to get a break, but I would not disagree that his tempo was down at some points. “I think that was a lot of time to play, considering what has gone on in his life, in the last couple days. He flew from Sacramento to Dallas, got traded, flew from Dallas to Sacramento to DC, got his physical, and then headed to Philadelphia to have practice. I think the fact that he played 37 minutes at the level that he did, is a real tribute to him.” Iverson, who is a six-time All-Star, registered game-highs with 27 points and 14 assists in the loss to Sacramento. Webber enjoyed playing with his new teammate. “He’s (Iverson) incredible,” said Iverson. The one thing I will say is I’m coming from one great point guard to one of the greatest, so that’s another thing, just the movements. Mike (Bibby) is deadly and slow. [Iverson is] quick, sassy… he’s gonna hurt you bad, quick. So there’s differences like learning pacing, learning what guys are like, learning their pet moves, and things like that. I just tried to stay out of A.I.’s way.” Playing in his ninth season in the league, Iverson finally has the second star that he has been asking for during his career. The 29-year-old Iverson is thrilled to have Webber as a teammate. “It’s great,” said Iverson. “Like you said, the atmosphere was great (at the Wachovia Center). Fans showed great support for him (Webber). We were happy to see that, see them embrace him like that. Hopefully it’s the start of something good. “I wish he could have got his first game here a win, start things off right, but hopefully we’ll get that done in Milwaukee (on Tuesday). But it was a lot of positives in this game.” Iverson, who leads Philadelphia in scoring (29.7 ppg) and assists (7.8 apg) is one of the most fearless competitors in the NBA. He will try to prove to the rest of the league that he can get Philadelphia, which last appeared in the NBA Finals in the 2000-2001 season, over the hump now that he has a proven star by his side. The 31-year-old Webber, who turns 32 on March 1st, is not the same athletic player that he was when he entered the league in 1993, but he is still, arguably, one of the top power forwards in the NBA. The Michigan product, who is still hampered by a surgically repaired knee, can knock down the outside shot and will take a lot pressure of his new teammate Iverson. “Obviously, it will help me out,” Iverson said about Webber drawing double-teams. “I’m used to guys double-teaming, triple-teaming me. It’ll be good for a change to have somebody on the floor that’s getting double- teamed. I think it only can help me in the long run.” Webber has played in 47 games this season and is averaging 21.1 points and 9.7 rebounds per game. He has scored in double-digits in 46 contests and has registered four triple-doubles. Iverson and Webber should work out fine in Philly. Both players will make each other better in every aspect of the game. The court will open up for Iverson with Webber on the floor, while the Michigan product will benefit from the attention his new point guard will get when he is handling the ball. Is Philadelphia a serious contender in the East with the addition of Webber? If Webber and Iverson can stay healthy, Philadelphia should be able to earn its way into the playoffs. It will take time for the two to learn each others tendencies, but the fact is that as long as these superstars are on the court together Philadelphia is capable of competing with and beating any team in the Eastern Conference.

  343. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 10:18 pm #

    Oh Whites don’t even exist then? So they can’t have rights since they don’t exist. Go to the front of class, hater. Django is going to take you first. Or why don’t you do him a favor and do it yourself? Since you don’t exist, your very existence is a contradiction. Why not make it right?

  344. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 10:22 pm #

    You “taught schoo”? Taught, yeah right, very funny. You baby sat unemployed thugs who should have been working in the fields and factories as Booker T Washington reccomended. No wonder you are half crazy. Countless young idealistic Whites have been shattered by trying to do the impossible like that.

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  345. progress4spam December 12, 2012 at 10:41 pm #

    That is some very nice prose in your link, Cougar.
    I’m not much on fiction, usually. So when I say in all honesty that I couldn’t stop reading it – it’s a high compliment.
    The CFN Atheists will enjoy it because it’s vague on traditional religion. Yet, it has some good things to say about the Spirit of man, for the religious among the Nation. And you’ve got very good symbolism throughout. There’s an allusion to Hiroshima and Nagasaki in a less than 100% positive light – which will thrill asoka..to no end, as well.
    My reaction to the machine/angel’s name of Fourtran may date me a little bit. It made me keep flashing on the time I wrote a loop in some code and completely froze the IBM 360/370 in the basement of Georgia State University for a couple of endless (to me) minutes. That was when computer time was worth several dollars a second – and when several dollars was a LOT of money.
    I kept waiting for a bill from GSU for years.
    I read pretty closely and found only one tiny typo, in this line here – just FYI: “It blinks a few times as if seeking some ignition point, accompanied by a pronounced ringing like a hammer hitting an anvil, then it bursts into a bright blaze before settling down to a stead glow.”

  346. progress4spam December 12, 2012 at 10:53 pm #

    Bustin Jay – I feel your pain, about the useless talk, and not just on CFN. But whatcha’ gonna’ do, man? Even terminal patients try to keep an interest in daily life.
    I keep hoping that there is some as yet unknown feed-back mechanism that will begin to correct Earth’s climate as CO2 accumulates.
    And I had been hoping that the End of Oil would come before we did our species completely in. But, some of the hard-headed business writers I follow are beginning to say that shale oil and gas fracking really are going to be commercially viable, pushing fossil fuel burning far into the future.
    My hard-headed business writers don’t address H+ ions, acidification of the oceans, methane clathrates, or Earth’s surface becoming unfit for human life. Bad for business, I suppose.

  347. Kyooshtik December 12, 2012 at 11:01 pm #

    Likewise, Black kids say, “I aint goin’ to schoo today”.
    Several weeks ago Rutgers was playing a football game but it was not available in the Cable TV package I have. I was forced to tune in to the game at 1450 AM (radio). As I listened I noted that every 10 or 15 minutes there was a message read very quickly that said “You are listening to Rutgers football” or something like that. I became very annoyed that I couldn’t quite make out what was being said because (1) it was read so quickly and (2) it was poorly enunciated.
    Now I started to lay in wait for this message…bound and determined that I would decipher exactly what was said. Two things were perfectly obvious to me: the speaker was Black and the last word of the message – football – was being pronounced footbaw.
    I began to enunciate footballl in a slow and exaggerated manner so I could figure out what was actually going on with my mouth, tongue and throat. And then I imitated the Black announcer’s quick version – footbaw – and then I slowed it down to f-o-o-t-b-a-w-w-w.
    I noted that there are two basic ways to form the letter L in speech. If the word begins with an L we press our tongue to our palate as in saying the word letter but if the word contains the letter L somewhere in the middle or at or near the end as in the word vulnerable the L sound is formed in the throat and doesn’t involve pressing the tongue to the palate. Many people have difficulty with these guttural L sounds. Vulnerable will come out as vuhnerable.
    Getting back to football, I have concluded that making the guttural L sound in ball is more involved than saying baw just as carefully enunciating every word in a sentence takes more effort than NOT carefully enunciating the words. While failing to form the guttural L sound is not unique to Blacks vs Whites it is certainly more common.
    I know some of you are angrily saying “I call bullshit on that” (or, if you are Black, “I caw booshit on that”) … or, “this fuckin Q is out of his mind.” But this may be easily confirmed or refuted on any Saturday or Sunday when there are a slew of Pro and College games being played. There is endless commentary by both Black and White sports talking heads.
    Laziness, IMHO, is the cause of poor enunciation and footbaw is Exhibit A.
    To confirm your opinion that I am totally off my rocker let me finish the story of the Rutgers game AM radio transmission. With not a little difficulty I found an email address for AM 1450. I wrote a greatly condensed version of what I have told you above. I told 1450 that my guess was that the speaker of the quickie message “You are listening to Rutgers footbaw” was an African American Rutgers student majoring in Communications and if he ever wanted to go anywhere in the business he would take my advice about enunciation.
    I invited an email reply but received none. The next Saturday I tuned in to AM 1450 for the game and lo and behold I heard the young Black voice articulate “You are listening to Rutgers football.”

  348. progress4spam December 12, 2012 at 11:18 pm #

    “I am presuming the crop you see as you fly in is cotton? peaches? soy? tobacco? turf? thats a lot of money to expend on those crops for the return I would think but hey.. do you know if they run all year? I mean , in this current drought?”
    Yep, pepp, all of the above. Rowcrops get more of the center pivot systems. Tree crops will usually have a pipe system of some sort. Neighbors of mine are talking about irrigating their hayfield for winter feed for cattle, that will be the first time I’ve seen that. It’s all about the money. If you don’t irrigate, the banks won’t lend much money.
    One of my last farming cousins went out of production farming in the early 80’s and went to trees and cattle. He talked about irrigation but didn’t want to spend the money. “Damn,” he told me,”If you could grow marijuana or something it would make sense to irrigate. Otherwise it looks like a wash to me.”
    I’m in 100% pine myself, have been for many years. That’s another story of Federal government cost-shares and incentives that seemed like a good idea at the time – but served to completely distort the timber market.
    Of course the housing collapse didn’t help.
    Trees are nice, in that they don’t take near the worry that most things do. If you have to worry about a crop of established pines dying due to drought, you’re talking a BAD drought.
    Sometimes I do worry about that, though.
    Reference Bustin Jay.

  349. Radu Voda December 12, 2012 at 11:19 pm #

    You might enjoy a “Mouthful of Air” by the author of A Clockwork Orange. Yes, I’m forgetting his name right now.
    An inspiring ending. I’m encouraged to write to the Dalai Lama to comment on White Genocide. He has spoken out about the ethnic genocide of Tibet by the Chinese now outnumbering native Tibetans in Tibet. He doesn’t like it.

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  350. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 11:34 pm #

    Oh Whites don’t even exist then? So they can’t have rights since they don’t exist.
    That is correct. Whites doe not exist. Nor do Blacks. We are all mixtures of varying degrees. We are all human beings.
    But you are not correct about rights. Human beings do exist and have human rights.
    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights
    “Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,
    Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,
    Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law”
    As a “white human” you exist and have human rights.

  351. anti soak December 12, 2012 at 11:35 pm #

    He is non White, so his attitude is OK w the PC

  352. progress4spam December 12, 2012 at 11:36 pm #

    Any of y’all with agricultural roots have probably seen this video a time or two.
    I hadn’t watched the video in years but I just did. The main thing that struck me was how massively BIG farm equipment has gotten in the 27 years since the video was made. Hair on men got shorter, too – but I knew that.
    “I grew up like my daddy did, my grandpa cleared this land
    When I was five, I walked a fence while grandpa held my hand”
    -john mellencamp-
    I don’t ever hear those lines that the hair on the back of my neck doesn’t prickle a little bit.

  353. asoka.. December 12, 2012 at 11:50 pm #

    You have human rights as a white, even though the world is run by non-whites. Even though whites will soon become extinct.
    Even as the smallest of minorities whites still have human rights. You just don’t get to impose your values on others anymore. You lost your “white privilege” fair and square.
    The so-called “white” population will be in single-digit territory by 2060, down from 28% in 1950. You cannot stop the power of love. You cannot stop people from falling in love. You cannot stop miscegenation and the end of the “white race.”
    But you will be protected as a minority until the very end.
    Your worry and whining about “whites” and wanting to “preserve” “the white race” are all bogus. You are setting up a straw man argument.
    “Race” is a social and political construct. No one knows their race at birth. You are told what race you are. You believe you are “white” because you have been defined as “white” and you accept that socialization.
    You are a human being first. And human beings have human rights.

  354. Radu Voda December 13, 2012 at 12:43 am #

    Complete nonsense – there are hundreds of thousands of Chinese in Australia. Just more of his monkeyshines. I think that 30,000 figure is the number that came in over 6 months or something. They don’t seem to keep statistics like we do. The European Model: once in they become “Swedes” or whatever. So with that model, there are never hardly any minorities in any formerly White Country.
    Here’s a great 5 part article about the Destruction of the White nation of Australia. It’s a microcosm of what has happened to the whole West. Jews and White capitulation. Now the massive influx of aliens. Again, the Jews go with Muslims even though frightened of them. They just hate Whites more. Abos and Jews are compared. The Abos are Holocaust Victims and utterly sacred. White/Abo mixes are high status so people begin claiming this even when very little. Look at the picture of the White Abos. Interesting difference though: Abo traits are recessive to our’s. After a couple of mixes they begin to look pretty White. They are closer to us despite their alien appearance.
    Good IQ info in part 5 which I link to. Real dumb, far below the Black African 70. All taboo: Australia is now seen as a Paradise before the White Man came. The cannibalism, rape, and warfare are all down to memory hole.
    If any person can absorb this 5 part article, he or she will know the whole story of the Fall of the West.

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  355. Radu Voda December 13, 2012 at 12:49 am #

    So you disagree with Susan Sontag’s, “Whites are the Cancer of Humanity”? You also disagree with U.N’s Declaration of Human Rights which pretends to protect all groups including Whites. And of course you’re at odds with the Dalai Lama as I already stated. And you should have no problem with the Chinese taking Africa since we’re all Africans and Blacks don’t exist.
    Your ideas can be used against you Soak – and they should be.

  356. anti soak December 13, 2012 at 1:56 am #

    I was quoting pepp.

  357. anti soak December 13, 2012 at 2:01 am #

    This is from the AU Gov site:
    National Agenda for a Multicultural Australia
    Australia today
    It is perhaps odd to describe Australia as a young society. After all, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures flourished on this continent for at least 40,000 years before the First Fleet arrived.
    But Australia – like the USA, Canada and Argentina – is ‘modern’ in that the vast majority of its native-born population is descended from immigrants who arrived here in the last two hundred years, and it is their cultures also that form the basis of a nation that has existed for less than a century.
    To that extent Australia is very different from most long-established European and Asian societies. It has a culture which, while already distinctive, continues to develop.
    Since 1788 diverse waves of immigrants have interacted with each other and with the first Australians. Out of that process has emerged a society of enormous and rare cultural variety.
    [wonder if the ‘no Whites Rule is mentioned at
    official site?].

  358. k-dog December 13, 2012 at 2:50 am #

    I received peak education and learned simple programming in high school. I was quite proud of a scalable accumulator which kept enlarging as needed to compute the square root of two to a hundred places by looped calculation using the error to make a better guess each time.
    I called over my instructor told him what I had done and ran the program from my paper tape. The terminal coughed and printed something and the instructor became as pale as the endless roll of terminal paper.
    After running away to make a phone call I learned that the 100 decimal places I had correctly determined had cost about a buck each to calculate.
    Fortunately the company that provided the school district with the computer time had expected this sort of thing from the high school computer class and were prepared to write these things off within reason so long as it did not interfere with legitimate billable jobs.

  359. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 3:17 am #

    You also disagree with U.N’s Declaration of Human Rights which pretends to protect all groups including Whites
    Do you know how to read?
    I just posted a link to the UNDR with emphasis on your rights as a human being, equal to all other human beings.
    As a “white human” you exist and have human rights.

    If you want to think of yourself as “white” (though that is a social-political construct) that is OK. But first you are a human being, and you have rights.

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  360. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 3:20 am #

    So you disagree with Susan Sontag’s, “Whites are the Cancer of Humanity”?
    I haven’t read it. Do you have a link?

  361. dt December 13, 2012 at 7:13 am #

    I’ve been listening to John (Cougar) since I was a youngster. Growing up in Illinois when “American Fool” came out almost guaranteed his music being permanently imprinted on my “young, fragile eggshell mind.”
    Have you ever seen the film he made, “Falling From Grace?” It’s pretty good. I think he also directed it.
    I also commend JCM for his Farm Aid efforts to help save family farms. He’s evolved quite a bit from his self-titled debut album, which is still one of my favorites.

  362. eud2e5s7 December 13, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    Mayer unterlag am Mittwoch in seinem zweiten Viertelfinale im All England Club nach 2004 dem Titelverteidiger und Weltranglisten-Ersten Novak Djokovic. Sein Davis-Cup-Kollege Kohlschreiber war beim berühmtesten Tennisturniers der Welt gegen Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, die franz?sische Nummer sechs der Tenniswelt, beim 6:7 (5:7), 6:4, 6:7 (3:7), 2:6 knapper dran, erster deutscher Wimbledon-Halbfinalist seit Tommy Haas 2009 zu werden. Zwischen Djokovic und Roger Federer kommt es zum Traum-Halbfinale.

    Kohlschreiber, vom Deutschen Olympischen Sportbund (DOSB) als einziger Herren-Einzel-Akteur für Olympia in London nominiert, wird am Montag vom 30. auf den 22. Weltranglistenplatz klettern. Damit egalisiert der 28-J?hrige sein bestes Karriere-Ranking. ?Es ist noch mal ein Ansporn, noch mal wieder nach vorne zu kommen im Ranking. Man hat einfach wieder die Lust darauf, gegen die Gro?en zu gewinnen“, zog auch der 28-j?hrige Mayer eine positive Turnierbilanz.

    Die Tageszeitung ?The Guardian“ hatte am Mittwoch – auf Deutsch – von einer ?Wiedergeburt“ der Deutschen in Wimbledon geschrieben. Allerdings wartet der Deutsche Tennis Bund (DTB) nun weiter seit 1995 auf zwei Profis im Halbfinale der All England Championchips: Damals waren es die sp?teren Turniersiegerin Steffi Graf und der sp?tere Endspielteilnehmer Boris Becker. Nun wandelt nur noch Kerber auf Grafs Spuren. Sie trifft am Donnerstag auf Agnieszka Radwanska.

    ?Standing Ovations“ von Prinz William für FedererMayer hatte gegen Branchenprimus Djokovic im ersten und dritten Satz seine Chancen, machte aber die Big Points nicht und musste sich schlie?lich nach 1:45 Stunden Spielzeit geschlagen geben. ?Wenn du deinen Chancen nicht nutzt, kannst du die Nummer eins der Welt nicht schlagen – so einfach ist das“, sagte Mayer. Das galt vor allem für den ersten Satz: Zun?chst schenkte er ein Break zum 3:2 sofort wieder her. Nach einer kurzen Regenunterbrechung hatte der Oberfranke dann bei 4:4 wieder 0:40 bei Djokovics Aufschlag, nutzte aber alle drei Chancen zum Break nicht. ?Es h?tte heute auch in eine andere Richtung laufen k?nnen“, sagte der erleichterte Djokovic.

    Der 25-J?hrige ging auch im zweiten Duell mit Mayer als Sieger vom Platz. Er fiebert nun seinem ersten Rasen-Aufeinandertreffen mit Federer entgegen. ?Ich freue mich darauf, Roger ist ein gro?artiger Champion“, sagte der Serbe. Der sechsfache Wimbledon-Champion Federer hatte sich im Eiltempo mit 6:1, 6:2, 6:2 gegen den Russen Michail Juschni durchgesetzt. Er hatte dafür ?Standing Ovations“ von Prinz William, dessen Frau Kate sowie Steffi Graf und Andre Agassi aus der Royal Box bekommen. ?Es hilft mir, wenn die Royals sich hier zeigen und auch die gro?en Tennis-Legenden zugucken – das ist inspirierend“, sagte Federer. Seine Bilanz gegen Djokovic: 14:12.

  363. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 11:26 am #

    What do Mika, JHK, XXX5, and a host of other doomsayers have in common? They have all, over a period of years, said Europe is in CRUNCH TIME, on the brink of collapse… taking down the USA with it… oh, my! The end is near. I hope the end of the “Europe is collapsing” refrain is near.
    Europe’s finance ministers hunkered down together for 14 hours yesterday and finally, in the wee hours of this morning, reached a landmark agreement to put Europe’s big banks under the supervision of the European Central Bank.
    Europe seems to know what it is doing. And even if they don’t, they can kick the can for decades.
    This week’s Christmas story is growing on me, upon rereading. Things are just as sweet and light as JHK paints them.
    But wait for JHK’s 2013 Forecast: another 4,000 DOW is coming … soon, “just around the corner,” “things work, until they don’t,” “we are so fucked!” “nature bats last” blah blah blah … CFN has a myriad of empty cliches.

  364. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 11:29 am #

    So you disagree with Susan Sontag’s, “Whites are the Cancer of Humanity”? –Radu to Asoka
    “Whites Are the Cancer of Humanity”!
    I haven’t read it. Do you have a link? –Asoka to Radu

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  365. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 11:33 am #

    So you disagree with Susan Sontag’s, “Whites are the Cancer of Humanity”? –Radu to Asoka
    Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Balanchine ballets, et al. don’t redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history.” –Susan Sontag to Radu
    According to journalist Christopher Hitchens, Sontag later recanted this statement, saying that “it slandered cancer patients”.

  366. Buck's A Stud December 13, 2012 at 11:41 am #

    Calling attention to JHK: the archives on your “Eyesore of the Month” are not working. When hitting previous months it simply redirects you back to your homepage.
    And I do declare: ” Eyesore of the Month” should be used as a weapon against architects; I have threatened more than one with the potential infamy that an inclusion in Kunstler’s gallery of quick turn around artists/hack aesthetes would bring.

  367. Buck's A Stud December 13, 2012 at 11:46 am #

    I saw Mellencamp – he called himself John Cougar back then – wilt on stage as an opening act and never bought into his musical posturing after that. Of course, he was opening for Jethro Tull and The Who…he was out of his league and completely outclassed.

  368. Buck's A Stud December 13, 2012 at 11:49 am #

    Your “macro-view” obsession is insane. You might as well travel full circle in order to count eyebrows on the forehead.

  369. stelmosfire December 13, 2012 at 12:07 pm #

    I think I found Jimbo a new fiddle! ;o)

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  370. k-dog December 13, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

    “Most currently popular ways of trying to put pressure on the American political system presuppose that the politicians will pay attention if the people, or the activists who claim to speak in their name, simply make enough noise. The difficulty is that the activists, or for that matter the people, aren’t actually giving the politicians any reason to pay attention; they’re simply making noise, and the politicians have gotten increasingly confident that the noise can be ignored with impunity.”
    Producing Democracy

  371. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 12:10 pm #

    So you disagree with Susan Sontag’s, “Whites are the Cancer of Humanity”? –Radu to Asoka
    Radu, it may sound harsh, but when one objectively analyzes the myriad of crimes committed by whites against people-of-color, Ms. Sontag’s statement is obvious. for the past 2,000 years, white crimes against people-of-color include: slavery, imperialism & conquest, colonization, theft of resources, racism & discrimination, theft of dignity, robbing of language and culture… the list is endless. Wherever white people settle (ie. invade) they oppress, enslave, and abuse the indigenous non-white population.
    Some have stated that white people are genetically (ie. biologically) “wired” for racism and oppression. I tend to think the problem is culturally rooted. Specifically, the problem with white people is the following: whites are the embodiment of Western civilization and Western civilization is inherently based on greed, selfishness, oppression, racism, anti-Semitism, and murder.
    The history of the Western world is a never-ending sequence of horrific crimes against humanity.
    Yes, other races have committed horrific acts of violence, other races have enslaved. Only whites have institutionalized such abuse and practiced their murder and slavery on a global scale previously unknown in human history.

  372. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    So you disagree with Susan Sontag’s, “Whites are the Cancer of Humanity”? –Radu to Asoka
    It should not need to be said, but before you bring up your objection I want to emphasize: I condemn Muslims, I condemn Native Americans, I condemn anyone who engages in violence, slavery, torture, abuse, etc.
    I am an equal opportunity supporter of nonviolence. But, historically speaking, whites have outdone everyone else in the breadth and depth of violent depravity they have achieved.
    “Learn to Live together as Brothers and Sisters or Perish together as fools.” – Dr. Martin Luther King

  373. HenryMorgan December 13, 2012 at 12:31 pm #

    WideSpreadPanic got kicked out of CFNation. I’m not sure why. Sure, I’ve written a lot of nonsense and stupid sh*t over the years, but so has everybody else. No matter, I’ve been kicked out of better places than this! Truth is, I’m beginning to doubt the veracity of peak oil anyway. Right now we’re at 92 million bpd and I read a recent article saying that will be 98 million bpd by 2020. I don’t doubt oil will be problematic in the future, but who the hell wants to spend any time worrying about something that may or may not happen 30 years down the road!
    I saw today that white people will be a minority in the USA by 2043. Good work, Libs! Mission accomplished! The only thing we have to figure out now is who is going to pay for all the welfare programs. Well, its not my problem. Let somebody else worry about that, too.
    –Happy Kwaanza, and Felice Navidad,
    HenryMorgan (from Mark Twains ‘Connecticut Yankee in King Arthurs Court’, partially written in a house just across the street in 1886)
    Formerly Marlin and WSP7

  374. GAZ December 13, 2012 at 12:35 pm #

    All this arguing about color. Mankind is the ULTIMATE parasitic virus. Every human that has ever livedand alive today is fudamentally flawed in some way, that’s why we do the same shit over and over. Take humans off this earth and nature will sustain itself until the Sun blows up. Nature is perfect, humans?…..not so much.

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  375. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 12:42 pm #

    I am an equal opportunity supporter of nonviolence. –Asoka to Radu
    Here are the two different meanings of nonviolence.
    1. Nonviolence is the life decision to live in harmony with the order of creation by giving up the domination of other people or the planet. Today, when put into community practice, this life decision is called culture of peace or peacebuilding.
    2. Nonviolence is the method of pursuing necessary social change by relying upon the real long-term spiritual power of justice rather than the apparent short-term political power of injustice. Today, when put into community practice, this method is called unarmed struggle.
    The Arabic term for nonviolence as a life decision is islam. Islam is a religion of peace.
    Because of the tremendous influence of Mohandas Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr. on the course of 20th-century liberation efforts, many people, especially Muslims, assume that nonviolence must be a Hindu or a Christian concept.
    However, Gandhi’s great colleague in the struggle for the freedom of Indian peoples from British colonial rule was Abdul-Ghaffar Khan, who developed his nonviolent understanding independently of Gandhi, through reading the Qur’an in jail. Abdul-Ghaffar Khan raised an army of 100,000 unarmed soldiers, the Khudai Khidmatgar, from the same villages that today yield many fewer young men up to the Taliban. (His arguments must have been more convincing than theirs.)

  376. Jam47 December 13, 2012 at 12:47 pm #

    Vlad,if you’ve forgotten the name of the man who wrote “Clockwork Orange” and “A Mouthful of Air” you’ve forgotten the name of England’s most original postwar writer of fiction. It’s Burgess, Anthony Burgess.
    Burgess was truly a polymath: poet, novelist, translator, composer of music, essayist, screenwriter.
    His novel about John Keats dying days in an apartment overlooking the Spanish Steps in Rome is, for me, unforgettable. Burgess was a Catholic, but nevertheless has Keats, on his deathbed, cursing Christianity and all its works in a paroxysm of contempt and rage.
    The name of the novel is ABBA ABBA, which is both the rhyme scheme for the Petrarchian sonnet and, I think, one of Christ’s utterances while he was hanging on the cross. Typical Burgess wordplay. And could he ever play!

  377. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm #

    Felice Navidad
    The correct form is “Feliz Navidad”
    “Felicidad” is happiness.
    “Feliz” is the adjective “happy”.
    So, when you say “Feliz Navidad” what you are saying is “Have a merry christmas” with the verb “have” understood implicitly.
    If you want to include the verb, the construction would be: “Qué tenga una feliz navidad” which translates as: I’m hoping you have a merry Christmas” (the verb form “tenga” is the subjunctive form of the verb “tener”)
    And that kind of explanation you will never get from Google Translator.

  378. HenryMorgan December 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    Jam, Vlad, if you like Anthony Burgess, you’ll like Malcolm Lowry. Check out ”Dark is the Grave Wherein My Friend is Laid’, ‘UltraMarine and ‘specially ‘Under the Volcano’, an unrecognized English Language classic (that is, while we still use English).

  379. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

    The name of the novel is ABBA ABBA, which is both the rhyme scheme for the Petrarchian sonnet and, I think, one of Christ’s utterances while he was hanging on the cross.
    Hubba, hubba, abba, abba.
    Each of the three occurrences of ???? in the NT is followed by the Greek translation ? ?????, “the father.” This translation makes clear its meaning to the writers; the form is a literal translation — “father” plus a definite article — and like abba can also be a vocative. But it is not a diminutive of “babytalk” form. There are Greek diminutives of father (e.g., ?????? [pappas]), and the community chose not to use them.
    –Mary Rose D’Angelo. Journal of Biblical Literature, Vol. 111, No. 4 (Winter, 1992), pp. 615-616

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  380. stelmosfire December 13, 2012 at 1:19 pm #

    Hey Marlin, RT here. I got bumped yesterday also. Like him or not I think Asoka is right (or left)?. It is some sort of software glitch. I thought Henrymorgan was the dude on MASH*** . I think he went to the marble orchard recently. Or are ya’ talkin’ about the pirate?

  381. HenryMorgan December 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm #

    Hey RT HenryMorgan was alot of people apparently.
    Now its me.
    Oz says Tuckers is opened back up but no liquor license yet.
    We all ought to meet up there, after they get that license.

  382. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 1:51 pm #

    Like him or not I think Asoka is right (or left)?.
    Like/dislike is important, as Jesus’ commanded: “Love yourself.” (Love your neighbor as much as you love yourself: neighbors of suicidal mass murderers, beware!)
    If we can manage what Jesus commanded, then there is no limit to the number of people we can love.

  383. Rhino December 13, 2012 at 2:04 pm #

    To Beantown and Myrtlemay
    Great posts last week in reply to my query.
    I agree with a lot of what was said. Like about the hatted, grey suited conformism. Like, if you didn’t smoke, something was funny with you. Remember that cigarette commercial that said “they’re wonderful for you”. Most people smoked. Three or four ashtrays in a living room. When company came the place was full of smoke. And you had to keep a stockpile of liquor because people drank like fish. And then drove home.
    There were good things. Like dads had jobs. And, mostly, adults acted like grown ups.
    I wonder about the 1960s though. By the 1960s I mean the time between the JFK murder and the end of US military action in Vietnam – 1963-1973.
    How would it have been if, for example, the JFK killers had blown it and JFK lived to do another term? Would the 1960s have been the 1960s? Would Vietnam have happened as it did? Would Vietnam have happened at all?
    So would Dylan have amounted to an irritating voiced geek and an obscure musical footnote, would the Summer of Love have been just a dreamy, druggy and largely ignored California episode, would the ’67 Monterey Pop Festival have made such a splash? Maybe Janis and Jimi would have played bars and clubs, known only to a small following. Maybe they would have lived longer or maybe not. Maybe no Woodstock, no Kent State massacre etc. A lot of things would have come out different. And what about Paris 1968?
    But a lot of things would likely have just kept going like, for example, civil rights movement. And maybe the revolt against conformity.
    And the feminist movement. A funny joke – Question: How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb? Answer: That’s not funny.
    Who would have had it otherwise? I mean, maybe other than Radu?
    And the sexual revolution – that really started in the 1940s – and which was propelled by the birth control pill. Great deal for the guys IMO.
    And maybe, if things had happened differently, if JFK had lived, MLK and Bobby might have lived and then it might have been Bobby or someone other than Tricky Dickie. And no Henry Kissinger intoning groaners like “peace is at hand”. Yeah, we could take that to the bank. And maybe no grinning Georgia peanut farmer gumming up the works. And maybe no Ronnie Raygun.

  384. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 2:06 pm #

    The cause of it [the world’s malady] is spiritual. We are suffering from having sold our souls to the pursuit of an objective which is both spiritually wrong and practically unobtainable. We have to reconsider our objective and change it. And until we do this, we shall not have peace, either amongst ourselves or within each of us. –Arnold Toynbee (London Observer, 25 October 1972)
    The reason for Mr. Toynbee’s remark is that, at present, governmental plans for social development around the world rely solely on economics, technology, science, and material education.
    Toynbee’s disapproval of one-sided, materialistic culture finds confirmation in sociologist Pitirim Sorokin’s statistical analysis of the past twenty-five hundred years of human history. Dr. Sorokin writes, We are living in the most scientific, most technological, and most schooled century; and the same century happens to be the bloodiest of all the preceding recorded twenty-five centuries.
    Obviously, then, the materialistic plans for social development are failing. Paradoxically, the materially advanced nations are just as frustrated as the developing nations, if not more so. The people in the few areas where materialism has produced the greatest wealth suffer from the greatest psychological distress and highest crime rates.
    If both the rich man and the poor man are suffering, then clearly their problem is not material, but must stem from the need for something other than material.
    Historian Theodore Roszak defines that need as follows: Technological achievements are… meaningless in the absence of a transcendent correspondence. They leave ungratified that dimension of the self which reaches out into the world for enduring purpose, undying value.
    Psychologist Abraham Maslow shows how a sole reliance on materialistic theories actually inhibits all human progress: …the major motivation theories by which most men live can lead him only to depression and cynicism.
    The alternative to this bleak scene is a spiritually conscious society. This proposal, however, usually provokes two objections: one, that religion is always dogmatic and inevitably leads to “holy wars”, two, that a spiritual society is impractical.
    Those aware of only Western religious history would readily agree with the first objection. However, the history of the Vedic civilization of India proves that people in a genuine spiritual society live in the greatest mood of tolerance.
    Even today, the followers of Vedic culture respect all views, be they Christian, Buddhist, Muhammadan, or whatever. The other objection (that a spiritual society is impractical) also withers before Vedic history.
    In fact, the oldest civilization in the world (the Vedic civilization) is also the most spiritual.
    Dr. Sorokin’s study of history shows that organizations based on a materialistic ideology, whether they be businesses, nations, or any other, have a maximum life span of only a few hundred years.
    On the other hand, he has this to say about spiritual organizations: The longest existing organizations are the great ethical-religious organizations—Taoism, Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Muhammadanism, and the like. They have already lived more than one or two or three millennia.
    Longevity (which means practicality and strength) results from the satisfaction of people’s basic spiritual needs.
    –Dharmadhyaksa dasa

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  385. Rhino December 13, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

    Only whites have institutionalized such abuse and practiced their murder and slavery on a global scale previously unknown in human history. – Assoka
    Maybe because whites had technology previously unkown in human history. You know, that made large scale killing so easy, that made large scale transport of slaves so easy. And do you absolve Africans of their own guilt in the slave trade?
    Your posts are painful to read but they require reply because such howling idiocy has such stong legs, because it appeals to the worst in people. Especially their inner idiot.

  386. Rhino December 13, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    typo: such howling idiocy has such **strong** legs..

  387. Rhino December 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm #

    If we can manage what Jesus commanded, then there is no limit to the number of people we can love. – Assoka
    I see that hypocrisy goes hand in hand with racism. And idiocy.

  388. Rhino December 13, 2012 at 2:23 pm #

    Over and over you prove that idiocy is not the sole preserve of right wing ideologues.

  389. Radu Voda December 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm #

    Have you read the five articles? If so, you will know how (maybe not why) the Elite are destroying not only Australia but Europe and North America as well. Yes, Buck, the big view. What real intellectuals want.
    How is the little book I sent you coming? I mean I know you have a passionate desire to get to the bottom of the Race question and that you weren’t just fucking with me, sending me on a wild goose chase to provide you with something you have no intention of taking seriously or even reading.

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  390. stelmosfire December 13, 2012 at 2:28 pm #

    Hey HM/Widespread/marlin, I used to go to Tucker’s when I was courtin’ the ol’ lady back in ’81. It was called “Gracie Allen’s” then. Named after George’s wife I presume. I think that wuz before O3 moved up to the high country.We should get together for the “Black Fly” days celebration up in Tolland. Why they would celebrate black flies is beyond me. I hate the little sumbitchs!

  391. anti soak December 13, 2012 at 2:30 pm #

    Lots of posters here have gotten ‘403 bans’.
    From ‘copy/paste’ that was rejected.
    I dont know why/how ‘apeman-spidey’ gets a free pass!
    Last time I attempted a ‘copy-paste’ that was rejected, there was no ‘403 ban’.
    Tell Marlin-WSP to try a third name, if he has not
    already attempted to.

  392. anti soak December 13, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

    Do not spank his inner child.

  393. Radu Voda December 13, 2012 at 2:32 pm #

    Mountain Gandhi was considered remarkable BECAUSE the Pathans are so incredible violent. Islam hasn’t changed that, nor has it tried to. Islam attempts to channel the violence of its members against infidels instead of other Muslims. But if there are no infidels handy, they still fight. So in that sense, Islam failed.

  394. Radu Voda December 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm #

    Such a recantation is none at all, but rather a doubling down. The Jew never apologizes.

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  395. HenryMorgan December 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

    Rip, whens Black Fly Days? That’d be in the early summer, no? Did you ever see the Simpsons episode when springfield Celebrates ‘whack a snake’ day? Black Fly Day must be in the same vein. I wouldn’t doubt if Pete isn’t one of the musical acts, maybe the only musical act.

  396. Radu Voda December 13, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    Ah, Tony, of course. You might like the lyrics of Morrissey. A fag, but a good one. He wants the Muslims out of England, the England he loves so much. Orwell too was a great patriot despite his Socialism. Very rare, but unmistable. Are lives are so short. If he had lived to see all this, would he still be a Socialist? He had already rejected the Soviet Union, I believe. His Socialism might have evolved to a more Nationalist kind, like Jack London and He who cannot be named. And then he would have to question all his previous viewpoints and actions. Figthing for Communists in Spain against Spanish Patriots? How could he ever forgive himself once he Knew the Truth?

  397. stelmosfire December 13, 2012 at 2:47 pm #

    Shore nuff’ Black fly celebration be in May I think. Breedin’ season for one of the most loathsome creations of whatever God you believe in. Not quite so bad as the guinea worm but they still suck! Literally!

  398. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 3:07 pm #

    The Hedges channeling the Berrigan Brothers in Troy, NY (courtesy of Jesse’s Cafe Americain).
    If only I could talk him out of that god thing. Alas, his Kung Fu is too powerful and I would surely be slain.

  399. stelmosfire December 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm #

    And people in these parts complain if the cable TV is down!
    There is no vaccine or medicine to treat or prevent Guinea worm disease. To extract the worm, a person must wrap the live worm around a piece of gauze or a stick. The process can be long, taking anywhere from hours to months

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  400. stelmosfire December 13, 2012 at 3:14 pm #

    Sorry for the double post. I think I have Dracunculiasis! Ima gonna get the .44 now. Just kiddink! ;o)

  401. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 3:28 pm #

    Still babes in the woods…er…water

  402. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 4:17 pm #

    Sometime ago I was listening to a radio station in Los Angeles on the eve of a local Morrisey concert. The two on-air DJ’s were discussing this upcoming show. One of them was a notorious LA fag, but a “matter-of-fact” fag in the mold of Leonard Bernstein. He said that they were asking all of the “Morrisey” questions except the important one. The other DJ asked him what the “important” question was.
    Does he have a date?
    Love conquers all.

  403. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 4:24 pm #

    The Smiths

  404. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 5:41 pm #

    All right. I went to the Wiki link:
    “A similar species of the Dracunculus genus, D. insignis, is a parasite which causes Dracunculiasis in dogs, raccoons, minks, foxes, otters, and skunks of North America.”
    Apparently, there is NO escape. Fuckin’ minks. I sought counsel with my spiritual source: Elvis.
    He said unto me “Only the blessed Surgeon acting as my agent will provide the relief that you seek. Until then, the only way to stay in a state of grace is to lay waste to the vile TeeVee with my chosen instrument of destruction:
    The Sacred .44

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  405. progress4spam December 13, 2012 at 7:04 pm #

    The title of this week’s JHK opus keeps catching my eye – as one of the tabs of one of the windows that I keep open 24/7 on my senescent computer.
    “Christmas Story,” by Kunstler is actually a very nice piece of work. I’m glad I acknowledged that, first thing Monday. Because now, that “Christmas Story” has become something like Mondays warmed-over roadkilled reindeer – viewed through the taillights of this runaway comment thread. Sorry about that, JHK. I still appreciate the story, and your work, and this comment thread. Just because the comment thread is fscked up, doesn’t mean your work isn’t valuable and appreciated.
    Weird about all the bannings. And it’s weird how many people take a banning personally – as though JHK took personal affront and personally banned them for something they personally said on here.
    Don’t be paranoid, folks. It’s just screwy software or some low level tech stuff.
    Here’s an early Christmas or Hanukkah or Kwanza/Saturnalia/Whatever present for everybody.
    http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logicalfallacies.aspx In the Spirit (spirit?) of the Joy of the Seasons – may we all stop committing these – and may one of us especially stop doing it deliberately, a…

  406. k-dog December 13, 2012 at 7:17 pm #

    A film that will appeal to most clusterfuckers.
    It moves slow and at times I wished there were more to it but when I did I also realized that there was already too much for most to comprehend. Notions that challenge the fundamental way we see are ourselves have to be made somewhat simple or they won’t fly at all. The brain would crack.
    Someone who calls himself Radu Voda is in the film and he wears a black leather jacket. I don’t think it is real leather and he has problems getting along with neighbors.
    The flick makes the point that debt is not about money but is really about politics. Money is only how it is tracked and often does nothing more than put lipstick on a pig.

  407. k-dog December 13, 2012 at 7:19 pm #

    Notions that challenge the fundamental way we see ourselves.

  408. k-dog December 13, 2012 at 7:35 pm #

    It would be wise not to use your public name for you account name and to use a good secure password.
    I’m not K-Dog when I sign in or I might have been banned already. Beware posters who try to extract personal information from you. Asoka has a habit of this as some (besides myself) may have noticed.
    Just sayin, a hijacked account is worth a hundred distracting polo shirt ads or 8 Man/ Tobor ape man cut and paste jobs any day. I’m a higher life form than this but were that not so and I had log in info about a poster I did not like it would not be hard to make a computer program that would turn the account to spam.

  409. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 7:41 pm #

    I suck at mathematics.
    Still, I would have sworn that:
    If A = B
    and B = C
    then A = C
    Isn’t that the algebraic Distributive Principle?
    My sister REALLY wants me to get off her computer. Rats. My last one just died a premature death due to a faulty replacement power transformer. A quality Chinese replacement that welded itself to my laptop and started a fire.
    Not gonna buy any more. My PC revolution has ended. Besides, I have to leave for Florida in the next 48 hours. I’ve had a revelation about our climate. Yeah. My cousin’s snowplowing contracts for the last ten years have yielded so little that he is on the verge of bankruptcy.
    Maybe we’ll talk again in about 25 million years. Oh, sure. We’ll all be six foot tall cockroaches, but, if everyone else is a cockroach…well…cockroach could be sexy.
    And I’ll just bet that there will be some sharp, three card monte playin’ cockroach that will see the light and say
    “We were made in His image, doncha’ know.”
    So, with THAT thought in mind, and a glass of wine in my hand,
    let me offer up some holiday music.
    Merry XMAS Motherfuckers.

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  410. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 7:45 pm #

    Oops. That would be the algebraic SUBSTITUTION Principle.
    Told ya I sucked.

  411. Pucker December 13, 2012 at 7:53 pm #

    Have you ever heard of a “Family Audit”, where a 3rd party auditor comes in to audit relationships in the family? Thanks.
    “The general definition of an audit is an evaluation of a person, organization, system, process, enterprise, project or product. The term most commonly refers to audits in accounting, but similar concepts also exist in project management, quality management, water management, and energy conservation.”

  412. Pucker December 13, 2012 at 7:58 pm #

    I saw Santa in the airport yesterday. He looked terribly bored. He had on black leather loafer with velcro fasoners rather than boots. He had a look on his face that seemed to suggest: “God, this job really sucks!”

  413. Pucker December 13, 2012 at 8:06 pm #

    Where’s Santa now, this very moment, on-the-Grid”?

  414. Pucker December 13, 2012 at 8:10 pm #

    I’ve got an iPhone “App” to sell you at a bargain price that’ll tell you exactly where Santa is at any particular moment On-the-Grid”.
    Santa’s wife has bought one….

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  416. asoka.. December 13, 2012 at 8:45 pm #

    Maybe because whites had technology previously unkown in human history. You know, that made large scale killing so easy, that made large scale transport of slaves so easy. And do you absolve Africans of their own guilt in the slave trade?

    Whites had ships. Everybody else had ships. It’s not a question of technology. Ships had been around for centuries.
    But only whites laid out a floor plan to stack hundreds of slaves into cubicles 2 foot high, like sardines, like coffins, in order to maximize profit.
    Only whites were driven by greed to such an extent that they used their logic and reason to abuse, enslave, and murder to a degree that far exceeded anyone else.
    Whites conducted 35,000 slaving voyages transporting over 10 million human beings. Can you name one other race or one other culture that compares on that scale?
    Go to lower Manhattan to the Custom House Museum in Liberty Park and look at the invoices for slaves and the blueprints for the ships to see how whites massively mistreated slaves for the long ocean crossing because whites were both greedy and depraved.
    And I already said I condemn slavery by whomever engaged in it, so why do you ask about African slavers? Yes, I condemn African slavers. By definition, when I condemn anyone engaging in slavery, Africans are included. But no one compares to the barbarity of whites.

  417. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 8:58 pm #

    Mr. Kunstler,
    What was I thinking? The wine makes me forgetful. After so many years, thank you so much for providing…gimme a second…a venue for uninhibited expression. Truly a rare and special thing these days.
    And YES, you can play sloppy street fiddle as evidenced by the following link:

  418. progress4spam December 13, 2012 at 9:37 pm #

    You didn’t open my Christmas present?
    Your argument has elements of two logical fallacies:
    Tautology in formal logic refers to a statement that must be true in every interpretation by its very construction. In rhetorical logic, it is an argument that utilizes circular reasoning, which means that the conclusion is also its own premise. Typically the premise is simply restated in the conclusion, without adding additional information or clarification. The structure of such arguments is A=B therefore A=B, although the premise and conclusion might be formulated differently so it is not immediately apparent as such. For example, saying that therapeutic touch works because it manipulates the life force is a tautology because the definition of therapeutic touch is the alleged manipulation (without touching) of the life force.”
    “No True Scotsman
    This fallacy is a form of circular reasoning, in that it attempts to include a conclusion about something in the very definition of the word itself. It is therefore also a semantic argument.
    The term comes from the example: If Ian claims that all Scotsman are brave, and you provide a counter example of a Scotsman who is clearly a coward, Ian might respond, “Well, then, he’s no true Scotsman.” In essence Ian claims that all Scotsman are brave by including bravery in the definition of what it is to be a Scotsman. This argument does not establish and facts or new information, and is limited to Ian’s definition of the word, “Scotsman.””
    -p4s christmas gift to CFN-

  419. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 9:47 pm #

    I think that it is high time that you told us about some barbarism that you have actually WITNESSED.
    What with Christmas coming up and all. Did you hear them cry out? Could you smell the gunpowder and blood? The dust and the diesel? Were they enemies or cohorts? Were you afraid? Could you hear the jets? Ever heard the sharp, piercing whelp of a child who was quickly executed so that they would never speak of the day’s events? Do you carry it around with you…every…single…day
    Tell us

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  420. xhalor December 13, 2012 at 10:46 pm #

    I’m the descendant of raggedy Mics and thug Krauts.
    A legacy I did not choose. I had to live it, and then overcome it.
    Tell ya what Asoka. I will not be shamed by likes of you. It took me a long time to get to where you THINK I am now.
    I remain.

  421. k-dog December 13, 2012 at 11:07 pm #

    Yes, A great place to piss in the wind this is in a virtual way but you need to pay attention to recall the correct physical way. Downwind not upwind is the technique. Don’t let the wine make you forgetful.

  422. Radu Voda December 13, 2012 at 11:28 pm #

    From a conventional point of view, things are what they are because they’re not something else.
    From a more profound point of view, things are what they are because of other things being what they are. If a, then b.
    But the conventional point of view, nations, property, 2nd ammendment etc, must be respected. People are using the profundity of dependent origination in order to destroy all structure; in other words, they use Truth to do Evil. And what can be more despicable than that? After all, all they want to do is set up the Pyramid of the Illuminati or a regular ethnic tribal hierarchy to replace the White one. What’s so great about that?
    So be greatful for the energy of my attack, for the challenge I present which you have yet to meet, for the chance to grow – to become more yourself – or to admit finally that I am right.

  423. Radu Voda December 13, 2012 at 11:32 pm #

    Don’t forget the Muslim slavers and don’t forget the Jews who were huge in both markets and before that the Roman one. People who focus on just the White Slavers reveal themselves to be anti White racists.
    A special onus must attach to the Africans who sold their own people, sometimes even people of their own tribe. They were as evil as the New World Order types who are selling us out today.

  424. anti soak December 14, 2012 at 12:00 am #

    What 5 articles?
    I followed the thread [this one] but did not find
    original reference.
    Morrisey ‘claimed’ to be asexual.
    What song lyrics should I look at???

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  425. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 12:38 am #

    Keep Christ in Christmas. The infinite took up flesh and dwelt among us. Thus Him name is Emmanuel or He is with us.

  426. anti soak December 14, 2012 at 12:46 am #

    what 5 articles?

  427. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 12:58 am #

    Here is part one. From here there is a link at the bottom to the next one. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/08/the-war-on-white-australia-a-case-study-in-the-culture-of-critique-part-1-of-5/
    I don’t know why I said that to WSP. One of the novels he mentioned reminded me of a Morrisey song about a murderer of children in his city. I just pull things out of the ether sometimes. Not knowing is the key to knowing. Emptiness is the root of fullness.
    In any case, his music is decadent and self indulgent. It’s not the Marches, Heroic Classical, Black Metal, and Hypnotic Techno that will inspire us to destroy the Enemy. It will be a long time before we can afford to be innocent, carefree or decadent again. We’ve had enough of that for the next few centuries.

  428. xhalor December 14, 2012 at 1:22 am #

    OK. I seem to have corrected some problems on my sister’s computer. So after I get done pissin’ on yer gums, I shall proceed to instruct you on proper crank bitin’ protocols.

  429. xhalor December 14, 2012 at 1:27 am #

    Name the time and place in a public forum, fucko.
    So I can get a good look.

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  430. xhalor December 14, 2012 at 1:54 am #

    Oh, and for all you slightly bat-like creatures on this blog, I would like to point out that there are NEGROS in my favorite Scottish rock and roll band.
    I don’t want to name NAMES, but
    (and this is most likely a very large BUTT)
    this is dedicated to a certain blood sucking institution within the confines of a wretched literary creation.

  431. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 2:17 am #

    “they use Truth to do Evil. And what can be more despicable than that?”
    Idiotic, truth destroys evil which must hide behind lies.

  432. xhalor December 14, 2012 at 2:20 am #

    There’s an egg. I better go check the hens.

  433. xhalor December 14, 2012 at 2:44 am #

    The problem with you is that you have no “Hair Control”. Asking you about a B-Model is probably a complete waste of time. When I say “draw bars” on a VOX Continental, you will probably look at me like a dog that had been shown a card trick.
    You do know what Concert Pitch is right?
    What the fuck am I thinking of?
    Y’all are redefining our culture.
    Don’t bother. I’ll correct myself.

  434. xhalor December 14, 2012 at 3:03 am #

    Hey! It’s great that you can play an English Horn.
    But now ya gotta play with Ralph.
    Where are you from? Cali? Grass Check!
    Bet you thought we were wasting time….
    Wanna jam?
    Oh wow. So sorry. I’m old. Gimme a break.
    You wanna RAP. Well, it might work.
    Let’s drive….

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  435. eud2e5s7 December 14, 2012 at 4:39 am #

    Abfahrts-Olympiasiegerin Lindsey Vonn hat sich erstmals zu ihrem Streit mit Gesamtweltcup-Gewinnerin Maria Riesch ge?u?ert und den tiefen Riss in der Freundschaft der beiden Konkurrentinnen best?tigt. Sie habe nach dem ersten Slalom-Lauf beim Weltcup in Spindlermühle am 12. M?rz aufgeh?rt, mit Riesch zu sprechen, weil die Partenkirchnerin ?eine Reihe von negativen Interviews“ gegeben und fortw?hrend ?schlecht über mich geredet“ habe, schrieb Vonn in einem Diskussionsbeitrag im sozialen Netzwerk Facebook.

    ?Ich bin wegen ihres Handelns sehr verletzt und wei? ehrlich gesagt nicht, wie es derzeit um unsere Freundschaft steht“, erg?nzte Vonn.

    Dafür, dass sie Rieschs Hochzeit Mitte April trotz Einladung ferngeblieben war, machte die Amerikanerin ebenfalls Riesch verantwortlich. ?Ohne hier alle Details zu nennen: Ich habe mich entschieden, nicht hinzugehen, weil Maria und ihr Lager mir gegenüber immer feindlicher aufgetreten sind – pers?nlich und ?ffentlich. Die Wahrheit ist: Mein Mann und ich fühlten uns nicht willkommen.“ Das habe sie Riesch auch in einem Brief mitgeteilt, schrieb Vonn weiter.

    Die 26-J?hrige lobte Riesch als ?au?ergew?hnliche Athletin“ und betonte, dass die Doppel-Olympiasiegerin den knappen Sieg vor ihr im Gesamtweltcup ?absolut verdient“ habe. Riesch hatte sich nach ihrem Sieg beim Weltcupfinale im Schweizer Lenzerheide beschwert, dass Vonn ihr nicht gratuliert habe. Das wies Vonn nun zurück. ?Ich habe Maria pers?nlich zu all ihren Erfolgen ihrer Karriere gratuliert und der Gesamtweltcup bildet da keine Ausnahme. Ich habe ihr gratuliert, als ich sie auf dem Podium in Lenzerheide umarmt habe.“

    Sie habe niemals den Eindruck erweckt, dass Riesch den Titel nicht verdient gehabt, oder dass der Weltverband FIS ihr die Kristallkugel weggenommen habe, erg?nzte Vonn. Das Regelwerk, das keinen Ersatz für beim Finale ausgefallene Rennen erlaubt, sei jedoch überdenkenswert, meinte sie. Riesch war der Titel zugefallen, weil sie bei der Absage des letzten Saisonrennens in Lenzerheide in der Gesamtwertung mit drei Punkten vor Vonn führte.

  436. eud2e5s7 December 14, 2012 at 4:40 am #

    Der zweimalige russische Meister Rubin Kasan geh?rt zu den fünf Teams, die dem Deutschen Rekordmeister am Freitag in Nyon als Gegner zugelost werden k?nnen. Kasan hatte in der Saison 2008/2009 bereits mit einem Sieg beim FC Barcelona in der K?nigsklasse für Aufsehen gesorgt.

    Twente Entschede, FC Zürich oder Udinese CalcioIm Topf befinden sich zudem die nationalen Vizemeister Twente Entschede (Niederlande), Odense BK (D?nemark) und FC Zürich (Schweiz) sowie Udinese Calcio, in der vergangenen Saison Vierter der italienischen Serie A.

    Dem Fu?ball-Rekordmeister droht damit bei der Auslosung am Freitag (12.00 Uhr) ein unangenehmes Duell mit dem russischen Spitzenclub aus Kasan oder eine Kraftprobe mit Udinese aus Italien. Auch der niederl?ndische Vizemeister Twente Enschede w?re nicht ungef?hrlich. Wunschgegner in den Partien am 16./17. und 23./24. August w?ren Odense BK aus D?nemark mit dem früheren Bayern-Torwart Stefan Wessels oder der FC Zürich.

    ?Der Gegner wird mehr schlucken als wir“Die Münchner Profis reagierten am Donnerstag betont gelassen auf die Gegnerauswahl. ?Wir sind der Favorit, egal auf wen wir treffen“, sagte Kapit?n Philipp Lahm. Torj?ger Mario Gomez musste sich sogar die fünf m?glichen Kontrahenten aufz?hlen lassen.

    Dann stufte er immerhin Kasan als ?sehr unangenehm“ ein, betonte aber wie Lahm: ?Wir sind gegen alle Favorit und müssen die n?chste Runde erreichen.“ Nationalspieler Bastian Schweinsteiger sieht sein Team unabh?ngig vom Gegner in der Rolle des Favoriten. ?Der Gegner, der uns zugelost wird, wird nach der Auslosung mehr schlucken als wir“, sagte Schweinsteiger.

  437. Pucker December 14, 2012 at 5:32 am #

    Santa says that “…Christmas is just a big, f…ck’n Rip Off, but that the people are just too f…ck’n Chicken-Shit to admit it.”

  438. Pucker December 14, 2012 at 5:38 am #

    Is “asoka” pronounced “a soaka”?
    Or is it pronounced “as oaka”?
    Or is it pronounced “aso aka”?
    Or is it pronounced “asoak a”?
    Or is it pronounced as any variation of the above, but with a tonal inflection or stress placed on any particular syllable?
    As for myself, you can call me anything. Just don’t call me “Late-For-Supper”.

  439. HenryMorgan December 14, 2012 at 7:30 am #

    During the recent Presidential Campaign it was stated “President Obama got us out of Iraq”. But then last night I see on the news that there are still 68,000 US troops remaining in Iraq.
    What’s the deal?

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  440. HenryMorgan December 14, 2012 at 7:52 am #

    I stand corrected. That’s the number of troops, including Naval Personnel, in and around the Middle East and Persian Gulf, protecting our Petroleum Interests.

  441. BeingThere December 14, 2012 at 7:57 am #

    The deal, HM is…
    Doublespeak for one. But we should all be used to that by now.
    At this point we have more privatized contractors in Iraq than we have US military forces. I don’t know the date certain that they will be leaving, but just so you know privatized contractors cost the govt. more than US troops would.
    Issues like the private security complex and private contractors are off the table and not discussed in the fiscal cliff shock doctrine.
    ss and medicare are the main targets of the Republicans on a mission to privatize all services given by govt.

  442. BeingThere December 14, 2012 at 8:04 am #

    As I’ve said many times, the banning has nothing to do with any opinion you might have. The software was meant to ban those using abusive language, but isn’t being managed, that’s the simple answer.
    If you don’t use abusive language and you don’t put too many url links you shouldn’t be banned, but it happens anyway.
    You’ll have to ask AI why it doesn’t want you back. JHK cannot enlighten you.

  443. HenryMorgan December 14, 2012 at 8:20 am #

    Point taken, BeingThere. I appreciate the response.
    As far a Government goes, an article appeared in our local paper reporting that a School Superintendant in a nearby small town is retiring and his current salary is $197,000 per year. A Board of Ed salary at that level is typical here so nobody is surprised. But what raised some eyebrows is that his pension will exceed his salary. How that’s possible I don’t know. But can you understand why some of us are skeptical about Govt. & Public Sector unions, and see it as just another scam on ordinary citizens?
    For all you young people out there looking for a career, if you can’t be a Hiphop (artist?) or professional athlete, think about going into one of the various levels of Government Service. That’s where the BIG MONEY$$$ is, and the bennies can’t be beat.

  444. BeingThere December 14, 2012 at 8:32 am #

    Yes, well in a corrupt empire all parts are corrupt. No surprises there.
    If you are ready to wake up this morning I have a 10 minute interview with Michael Hudson who explains the fiscal cliff charade to get your social safety net into the stock market for a feeding frenzy.
    Just to add another insight, I checked out zerohedge the other day and they were discussing the millisecond crashes of stocks where someone’s make a pretty penny.

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  445. progress4spam December 14, 2012 at 11:00 am #

    Here you go, BT, two more early Christmas Present, just for you.
    “As Anthony Michael Sabino, a professor at St. John’s University‘s Peter J. Tobin College of Business, points out, “You can’t handcuff a bank. It’s an entity.” True, but then we should stop playing this game where we threaten with criminal charges, end up settling for a fraction of the alleged illicit profits and then announce we don’t have the ability to prosecute.
    Instead, let’s just call the world’s biggest, most systemically important financial firms what they are: Immune.
    So come on over, bad bankers of the world. Do your business here with the peace of mind that we’ll only just hit you with a fine when you break our laws. And don’t worry, it’s your shareholders that will suffer that fine, not you.” -Forbes article-
    And your second present, you ask?
    It is my acknowledgement that you are nearly 100% right concerning your major thesis.
    I’m not sure what we’re supposed to do about it.
    The idea is too complicated to explain to my senators and my congresscritter. PLUS, they are part of the system, so they will claim they don’t see a problem.
    But anyway, you’ve won a convert in me.
    Merry Christmas!

  446. BeingThere December 14, 2012 at 11:34 am #

    Thanks P4S,
    All I can suggest is to write about and try to get as many people from different teams (red and Blue and Purple) to understand this monstrosity for what it is.
    This is in the words of Max Keiser economic terrorism and it’s all to get all moneys into the stock market to be gleaned from the playas who are gunning to own all the world’s wealth, resources and power and let everyone die for all they care.
    For some it will be like living in the dark age and for them it will be some kind of wonderful–or so they think.
    It’s neo feudalism The world is flat—that is we can all work for a dollar a decade. Our jobs are coming back as they smash the unions and the prestitutes are making sure you don’t catch on, but hey, here’s a dose of reality:
    Let’s talk about guns. This week alone there have been shootings in NYC near a subway station, a mall in Ore. and this morning an elementary school in CT. so here’s the question for all those who use the hollow words of LIBERTY and FREEDOM when talking about no restrictions whatsoever with any kind of gun.
    I call our global economy Murder Inc. where the corportist can be expose the consumer to all kinds of poisons for money. The little guys can commit “Little Murders” killing off a few at a time. Kind of reminds me of the comments I heard years ago about the black on black crime in the ghettos, Let them kill eachother off.
    I guess in the eyes of the elite we’re all niggers now. They are licking their chops for the pension funds and our ss money. Can’t wait for those mini-crashes to suck it all in. COME TO PAPA.

  447. Kyooshtik December 14, 2012 at 11:57 am #

    On Dec 10th I was unable to Sign In to comment on this blog. Words something like “You are denied permission to comment” appeared when I clicked on Sign In. This persisted for several hours, then at 2:18PM that day I sent Jim an email (his address can be found on the CFN site with about an hour’s focused searching; he don’t make it easy; I’ll provide the address if you ask). Earlier, before being banned, I had posted a spoof/parody of Jim’s 12/10 warm and fuzzy essay. Then, all of a sudden, I was banned. I figured Jim took offense. So when I emailed Jim (the email subj line read “I think I’ve been banned”) I said I hoped he realized that what I had written was just a joke and I hoped he would remove the ban.
    Below is a copy and paste of a reply email I received exactly 20 mins later:
    I didn’t ban you but I banned some other people.
    James Howard Kunstler
    “It’s All Good”

    My interpretation of the above is that there was deliberate intention in his banning of other people. But I really DO wonder.
    It would be so simple for Jim to clear this up… let us know if he’s got some unwritten rules or tell us it’s just a technical glitch and he is simply NOT going to get involved with it.

  448. stelmosfire December 14, 2012 at 12:06 pm #

    Mornin’ Marlin(or is it afternoon?). I did my 33 years with the city and the bennies are really not that great. I pay 75 bucks a week for health insurance for myself and my wife. I suppose that may be better than some folks have it. Thats about all I get except for the $111.00 I collect every morning for gettin’ out of bed!

  449. BeingThere December 14, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

    ANSWER #2
    Go with technical glitch after some attempt to get the site under control. The software isn’t the best, let’s put it that way. JHK doesn’t really want to deal with it.

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  450. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 12:44 pm #

    The deal is he is a playah thats what.

  451. stelmosfire December 14, 2012 at 12:58 pm #

    Addendum: I am not eligible for SS and I paid 8% of my earnings since ’79. I took a big hit when I left the factory ( Bendix in Chester, MA) to work as a civil servant. The mill has since burnt to the ground. It was right next to the Boston-Albany Line in the Westfield River valley. I could look out the window and watch the 150 car trains pass. I used to count them. 4-5 engines chugging up through the Berkshires. There are no factory jobs around to speak of now. Mostly warehouse work. Shuffling Chinese goods.

  452. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 1:05 pm #

    Remember William Blake’s, “A Truth told with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent”. You don’t like the idea of intent – you want the universe to conform to your moral ideas a priori. Thus the Abos have to be equal to Whites in your universe. And thus you are willing to do enormous evil to punish and silence those who speak the truth of that matter, namely that they are not equal, not by a country mile.

  453. BeingThere December 14, 2012 at 1:08 pm #

    Before I have to leave one more little beauty for you re: privatization of ss.:

  454. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 1:09 pm #

    You’re drinking the kool aid. Guns help keep us free. They’re terrified that we still have the ultimate veto. But you’d vote that away – most women would. Women have a history of bad choices like prohibition. Today’s shooting is probably a psy op – they know this is how they will outlaw guns.

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  455. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

    I agree with B: he just doesn’t care. You’re projecting meaning where there is none. If you believed in God, you’d have all the meaning you need and wouldn’t have to do this.

  456. progress4spam December 14, 2012 at 1:12 pm #

    Good points, K/Q.
    You would think, though, if JHK was offended by a post that he would do more than just ban that poster from future posts, right?
    IOW, why wouldn’t JHK take down the offending post, too? And he didn’t take down your satirical post, did he?.
    We’ve both seen him take down “notyourmommy’s” posts, and ban the screenname that that poster was using at that particular time. So, IMO, the explanation is to be found in the “technical glitch” department, or else in “poor instructions to the blog software,” on the part of JHK or his tech guy.
    Does JHK have a tech guy, anyway?
    And does that tech guy have JHK’s best interest fully in mind?
    For the answer to these and other questions, please call 1-800-WHO-KNOW. Extension “S”
    Speaking of technical issues – K/Q, were there ever archives for CFN comments prior to April, 2009? Were there even comments prior to then?
    Those comment threads are still open, which indicates to me that “chinese spam boy” is a current human being – not a spambot – because a spambot would have filled those threads to the point that JHK’s ISP had to shut him down.
    BTW, to prove my point, I just left a message for you on “The Coming Age of Austerity.”

  457. stelmosfire December 14, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

    WTF is goin’ on in Danbury? These miscreants give the responsible gun owners a bad name! Kids? this is just fu’in wrong!

  458. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

    Exactly. Scotland will only be real and deserve to exist once it is full of non Whites. Reminds me of a few high school kids who wanted to form a White Club. They took alot of heat for this, so finally one of the girls said of the guy – he’s gay. What a defence! And what a Society where one would be motivated to make it.

  459. BeingThere December 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm #

    Vlad:Guns help keep us free. They’re terrified that we still have the ultimate veto.
    I hate canards and that’s what you are indulging in.
    I have no interest in banning guns. They could come in handy, but somethings gotta give or people will stop going to public places. We can’t all be shut-ins for fear that a nut is going to go crazy after losing a custody battle.

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  460. progress?conserve December 14, 2012 at 1:27 pm #

    K-dog and many others –
    I don’t think handles are being hacked, then used for spam, and then shut down by JHK.
    It’s too easy to create a new handle –
    Far easier than stealing one.
    So now I’ve got a back-up handle, again.
    I’ll probably start using progress?conserve.
    RT – couple of points.
    Yeah – I concur. I suspect we’re about to start seeing some new pushes for gun control when the new congress goes into session.
    And, as a suggestion – why not make a yourself a new handle like ripped!thunder and go back to posting under that. Otherwise, it’s like you’re a whole new poster to folks who may have missed your initial st.elmo’s post.
    Just a suggestion. Goes for you, too, marlin/wsp.
    Now, let’s see if this thing will let me post under this new handle.
    Testing. Testing!!

  461. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 1:29 pm #

    WW1 destoyed the last Aristocracies – and strengthened the Banks and Central Goverments of the Democracies. WW2 destroyed the Fascist States, while making the Democracies more like them in terms of centralization. WW3 will be between Islam and the “Liberal Democracies”. The Elite are hoping to destroy Islam and basically end Liberal Democracy with one stroke. Thus they are strengthening Islam for the struggle. No? Then why are they doing it?

  462. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 1:34 pm #

    Typical female evasion. You want guns effectively banned. Consider Ireland’s feminine logic: Guns are not banned, but allowed with a permit from the Gardai (police). The problem is that the Gardai issues no such permits. Sweet, eh? I’m sure you can appreciate it.
    What sane person would put there child into a “schoo” or minimum security prison in this day and age? They are just sitting ducks for both programming and/or violence from other students and the occasional lone nut.
    I remind you all, this is how England lost their right to self defence. The Obamas in both Goverment and Media are going to make the most of this to that end.

  463. Scotty December 14, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

    Nice to see the usual suspects on here spouting their insanity after an horrific mass shooting at an elementary school. At least 27 dead, including at least 18 children, and nary a peep of condolence or shock or dismay, merely a bunch of right-wing paranoia and handwringing about the possible attempts at gun control legislation that this atrocity might provoke! As if today’s massacre isn’t yet further evidence that our country’s gun and death cult has gone to a freakish extreme and needs to be reined in (without, of course, relieving sane, law abiding citizens of a right to bear reasonable arms–not assault weapons–for hunting or self-defense after a sensible waiting period, background check, and training course). Keep it classy, d-bags!

  464. Rhino December 14, 2012 at 2:03 pm #

    “Only whites were driven by greed to such an extent that they used their logic and reason to abuse, enslave, and murder to a degree that far exceeded anyone else.” Assoka
    “… far exceeded anyone else…” Really? And you know this how?
    So wrt to slavery you ask what culture compares to European in terms of the extent.
    Here’s a possible answer: 1) African 2) Muslim.
    According to what I’ve read, the slave trade you so gleefully talk about (because it gives you a chance to exhibit your hip, intellectual bona fides by zestfully condemning Europeans) would not have existed without African and Muslim participation and complicity.
    So why don’t you quote records kept by Muslim and African slave traders and owners? Why do I ask such a question? Because if you want to point the finger and emphasize the cruelty of one civilization over that of others it would be helpful to have as complete a historical record as possible. Why? For the sake of accuracy, fairness, academic integrity, to avoid distortions of history, to avoid accusations of bias. That’s why. You can’t just say that white folks were the worst when you’ve only got records left by white people and no one else.
    And I ask because apparently the Africans in chains crossing the Atlantic had on them the fingerprints of African/Muslim slavers.
    So did you look at records of Muslim and African slave traders and owners? You couldn’t have compared the records of various civilizations without looking up and assessing documentary evidence left by all of them. Right? So you must have reliable numbers from reputable studies. Right? So do tell. African/Muslim slave traders and owners didn’t keep records? They no longer exist? You didn’t look? What’s the story?
    Aren’t we interested in what actually happened?
    According to various sources I’ve read, slavery in Africa ie of Africans by Africans, was widespread and a part of everyday life. What were the numbers? I don’t know. You tell me. You’re the one saying such and such people are the most cruel and most vile.
    You focus on those beastly transport ships built by Europeans (and they were beastly) and, in doing so, you go for the easy, sleazy ideological score and ignore the millions (?) who suffered in bondage for centuries in Africa under African overlords. And in other places under Muslim overlords. Not to mention other civilizations. Why is this?
    Could your post be another moronic recitation of moronic talking points compiled by morons to push moronic ideological agendas?
    “…because whites were both greedy and depraved…” – Assoka
    I would submit for your consideration what is readily obvious to most of us, that is, in terms of neurological wiring, behavioral tendencies and character attributes the various cultures and colorations that characterize humanity are pretty much alike.
    Think about it asshole.
    One other thing: everyone had ships did they? Did Africans have ocean going ships? Did Muslim kingdoms? Did they cross the Atlantic? Did they try? No?

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  465. Scotty December 14, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

    And as for the idea that “guns keep us free”, get over your moronic selves. Your government has a massive standing army armed with everything from machine guns to shoulder-mounted rocket launchers, tanks to APCs, self-propelled howitzers to land mines, Apache helicopters to mobile missile batteries. Your government has an air force filled with heavily armed fighter-bombers, stealth bombers, bunker busting bombs, etc. The navy and air force have thousands of powerful and precise cruise missiles in their inventories, as well as enough nukes to destroy world civilization several times over. Your country’s armed forces also stockpile chemical and biological weapons in spite of public assurances and treaty obligations to the contrary. Finally, your government operates the world’s most intrusive and comprehensive surveillance infrastructure, that sucks up, records, and scans your calls, texts, emails, Internet activity, and the like and compiles massive databases on anyone of “interest”.
    Against all that, if the government turned against you and wanted to “take away your freedom” or whatever, I’m sure that assault rifle you have stowed away in your closet would be a real match. That would clearly be an even fight, a fight you could win! I’m sure the government would be quaking in its boots at the thought of sending a company of Rangers or an elite cell of special ops to take you out.
    Get a grip, people. FOR REAL.

  466. Kyooshtik December 14, 2012 at 2:20 pm #

    You’re projecting meaning where there is none.
    Let me get this straight Vlad…when Jim says I didn’t ban you but “I banned some other people” you somehow interpret that this ACTUALLY means “I didn’t ban YOU – I haven’t the foggiest idea about that notice you got at Sign In – but I know for a fact that this friggin meshuga software of mine automatically banned some OTHER people for god only knows what reason. And not only do I NOT know why, I haven’t the least inclination to look into it. I’m a busy man. I got things to do and places to go. If I may coin a phrase.”
    Vlad, I wish to hell some of these other people who were banned (Buck Stud, Ripped Thunder, WSP7, etc) would describe the nature of their banning. Did they click on Sign In and get the same sort of message that I received?

  467. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 2:20 pm #

    “150 car trains pass. I used to count them.”
    Remember to say it was on your lunch break next time.

  468. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm #

    You won’t infect me with your tattered spiderweb of reasoning. I won’t be shattered. I don’t remember William Blake, never met him. His truth told with bad intent is a disguised lie thus it resembles the truth and it is the most powerful of lies but the real deal wraps right around it like a blanket.

  469. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

    And I bet the memory of her saying that to you sears your brain to this day.

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  470. Rhino December 14, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

    You only get “freedom” if you exercise self restraint. And I hate to say it but freedom of expression only works with a modicum of self censorship. And yeah I’m referring to the racist and anti-south, anti-rural hatemongering you see on this site.
    So you don’t get to keep guns if the kind of shit you see happening like this latest shootemup keeps happening.
    The govt runs a really big army. With all kinds of weaponry and vehicles. But I would submit that if the govt doesn’t get its finances in order and if offshoring US productive capacity stays the order of the day that huge military will be mothballed and melted down. And besides, you are 310 million and the military is 2 million.

  471. anti soak December 14, 2012 at 2:38 pm #

    Guns help keep us free!
    Tell that to Ryan Lanzas 30? victims.

  472. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 2:38 pm #

    Good point.

  473. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 2:43 pm #

    “I would submit for your consideration what is readily obvious to most of us, that is, in terms of neurological wiring, behavioral tendencies and character attributes the various cultures and colorations that characterize humanity are pretty much alike.”

  474. Kyooshtik December 14, 2012 at 2:47 pm #

    Nice to see the usual suspects on here spouting their insanity after an horrific mass shooting at an elementary school…..and nary a peep of condolence or shock or dismay
    I wish no ill-will on anyone but too bad all those fathers up there in CT didn’t have vasectomies like I did, then they wouldn’t have to suffer such grief. – Asoka..
    School shootings and Hurricane Sandys are losing their power to shock us…that’s how fucked up WE are. – Q

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  475. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 2:49 pm #

    Being as the shooting just happened and there has not been time for the news to propagate your post is way off base.

  476. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    Whats the odds? Looks like an evil cosmic ray went right through the earth. It hit us passed right through and came out the other side.
    Knife-wielding man slashed 22 children.
    Sandy Hook

  477. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm #

    Imagine that:
    “There have been a series of attacks on schools and schoolchildren around China in recent years, some by people who have lost their jobs or felt left out of the country’s economic boom.”

  478. Collapse Watch December 14, 2012 at 3:03 pm #


  479. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 3:16 pm #

    Ryan Lanza
    This guy is freaking out that he has been identified as the shooter.

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  481. progress?conserve December 14, 2012 at 3:38 pm #

    “Being as the shooting just happened and there has not been time for the news to propagate your post is way off base.”
    -k-dog to scotty-
    You are correct, K9.
    Also, the terrible number of victims is just now hitting the news.

  482. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm #

    It is a horrible thing.

  483. BeingThere December 14, 2012 at 4:03 pm #

    The last thing I’ll say to you is that putting words in my mouth or telling me what I really think cuz I’m a female is not going to obfuscate the issue.
    Again gun control is not the same as banning unless you have a record of mental illness. Then maybe it’s banning and obviously for good reason.
    A civilized society has to protect it’s people against the kind of wanton violence we see repeated again and again and for the 3rd time this week.
    27 people woke up on a beautiful day, went to school and lost their lives. How many more people have to be sacrificed for an extreme position?
    Every issue in this country is countered by an extreme black and white response. It’s like dealing with 5 year-olds with no common sense.
    Just keep saying the same nonsense over and over again. That’s why I don’t try to reason with you, but for the record I am not against responsible gun ownership. That’s it for me.
    Now all I can do is mourn for innocent children. It could have been people we love.

  484. progress?conserve December 14, 2012 at 4:21 pm #

    Concur, K-dog – one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. The number, the age and the innocence of most of the victims is what’s so hard-rending and so impossible to accept.
    Personally, I resolve not to discuss it any further on CFN, or anywhere else online, except to respond where appropriate to those who offer condolences to the victims.
    There is nothing to be gained by having an emotional discussion when all of our hearts should be already torn by this tragedy.
    It’s part of JHK’s job to address these sorts of wounds to the national spirit, at a time of his choosing. At that point, we can all thrash it out in this discussion space if we feel so inclined.
    Take care of yourselves and your families, fellow Clusterfuckers.

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  485. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm #


  486. ozone December 14, 2012 at 4:38 pm #

    “Today’s shooting is probably a psy op – they know this is how they will outlaw guns.”
    Alrighty, you Asshole.
    We might have figured this self-evident abomination by a twisted individual from a twisted society would prompt you to accuse others of what is your OCCUPATION. How Rovian of you.
    Psy-ops indeed.
    You are one sick fuck.
    Now busy yourself with living, you piece of shit. There’s not much of it left.

  487. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

    I maintain that there is something about the room itself, its small-scale magnificence, that honored the presence of the people in it.

    The presence of people of good cheer interacting honored the room and the room honored them.

  488. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 4:45 pm #

    self-evident abomination
    Well put.

  489. Collapse Watch December 14, 2012 at 4:50 pm #

    Take care of yourselves and your families, fellow Clusterfuckers.

    Sounds like a threat. Special Ops cowards. Kindergarten children!!! What’s next for you brave warriors….an old folks home?

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  490. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 5:00 pm #

    Rovian you say, as in C.R. I’m thinking?
    The public corn pone is chock full of pundits pushing the fear button right now. Only a sick fuck would call this a Psy-op but it is being exploited like it was one right now. The shock doctrine is in full swing and the blue glow is dishing it out.
    Looks like Collapse Watch threw some mud at you. Good for you it was not the kind that sticks.

  491. stelmosfire December 14, 2012 at 5:06 pm #

    Hey Q, I actually cried when I heard about this insanity in CT. Little kids for Christ-Sakes!Usually this stuff was out west or down south, not that it really makes a differance. This was fairly close to home. I wish the MF that did this lived to go to jail. The real ciminals would have seen to justice then. Just like Dahmer. This crime will touch thousands. I feel for the families and the emergency workers. Can you imagine going into a room and finding 18 kids with their brains blown out. These EMS workers will NEVER get over it. Good luck trying to sleep. I don’t know how this a-hole got in there. In my town the school doors are locked going in after school is in session. As extreme as it may sound I think the Principal or janitor should have a glass cabinet with an M4 carbine and vest in it. Break the glass and an alarm goes to the PD just like a fire alarm. I know the FD is on-scene in 3-4 minutes where I live. I would welcome the oppurtunity to shoot this a-hole in the head.

  492. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 5:07 pm #

    My bad, the meat in my head wasn’t working right. My last line in my post to O3 actually belongs to you.

  493. progress?conserve December 14, 2012 at 5:16 pm #

    Collapse’s “mud,” as you call it K, was a complete non sequiteur. Just didn’t make any sense. I begin to think CW is ’bout half-crackers, to put it politely, while gently insulting crackers.
    And RT, wanting to kill that shooter before he was able to act is definitely a sort of condolence for the victims, expressed by someone such as yourself, who has been a man of action his entire working life – so I will tell you that I know exactly where you are coming from, man. And I agree.

  494. stelmosfire December 14, 2012 at 5:26 pm #

    Thanks PC, This grotesque event just got to me. I like kids and puppies. I am too emotional these days. I should probably think first before I spew my thoughts all over a public blog.

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  495. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 5:41 pm #

    Exactly. Now you’re talking. An armed society is a polite society.

  496. Jam47 December 14, 2012 at 5:42 pm #

    If JFK had served two full terms and had kept America out of Vietnam, the sixties counterculture would likely have been less vigorous than it turned out to be. No war overseas, less energy for a revolt at home.
    The Vietnam impetus aside, the sixties revolt seems to have been a case of the the bourgeois having taken on and expanded the things that the Beats had been doing in the fifties. Ginsberg, Burroughs, and Kerouac, have therefore to be reckoned men of enormous influence. If America eventually acquires, like France, the habit of publicly honouring its writers in bronze, and if America eventually outgrows its puritanism, comemerative statues of the Beat writers will be all over the place.
    But let’s go back to an earlier Kennedy, the real Kennedy, the patriarch. I don’t know if Joseph Kennedy had presidential ambitions, but let’s suppose he did. Let’s suppose he served two terms, from 1936 to 1944, say, served them in place of Roosevelt. Unlike Roosevelt, Kennedy was in good health. Unlike Roosevelt, he was a compulsive womanizer. Unlike Roosevelt, he wasn’t born into money, but made his own, and lots of it. The personal differences between the two men were great, and would have translated into a distinctively different presidency. Also, as Joe Kennedy was an isolationist, he would likely have tried hard to keep America out of the war in Europe. But what would he have done about Japan? Or about Stalin? Being one of capitalism’s great beneficiaries, he may not have shrugged away Stalin’s end-of-war predations in Eastern Europe, as Roosevelt and Churchill seemed to have done, though Roosevelt and Churchill might be excused on the basis of their body-and-brain infirmities.

  497. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 5:43 pm #

    I’m surprised you didn’t accuse me of doing it – Turk did when Gabby Giffords got shot. Zone, you’re still a creature of the media. What about the countless people that guns save every year? Why doesn’t the media talk about that? You’ve got to try harder to control your emotions and be objective. Your hatred is blinding you.

  498. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 5:47 pm #

    Thank you. As JFK said, his father was the smartest man he ever met. After the war he told his son the Truth: the Jews won. I don’t like these people but you’re going to have to get along with them if you want to get into politics.

  499. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 5:53 pm #

    We already have laws on the books against the mentally ill getting guns. What more do you want? We’re have produced a sick Culture where people hate their parents and everyone else. There are many White Areas and Nations where gun ownership is common and the misuse very low. Switzerland and rural Canada for example. It’s the Culture, not the Implement. Or for you 60’s types: it’s the Institution.
    Horrible to see the Rolling Stones still plugging along. What next? Mick in a wheelchair? They are a shell, a shadow of their former selves. As someone once said, time is a way of keeping Elvis and Sammy D from playing in Las Vegas 500 years from now. The Stones must end and soon. But gun ownernship must go on…

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  500. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 6:01 pm #

    Yeah I’d say that’s his attitude. When he says he banned people, he probably meant the Asshole, OEO, or me months ago – the kind of offhand answer people give when they don’t care much.
    Why do you? The Universe is a chaos of joy – imprecison is its instrument. The randomness sometimes deceptively so (karma) and sometimes the apparent meaning deceptive and just randomness. Hum Rambling Roads to yourself replacing it with Random.
    Or try this: Oh the tangled webs we weave when first we practice to percieve.

  501. Kyooshtik December 14, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

    the innocence of most of the victims is what’s so hard-rending
    In case you’re tempted to express this same sentiment among family or friends over the next couple of days, be advised that the expression is heart-rending.
    Hard-rending is having a boner you could cut glass with but the gorgeous chick at the bar tells you to get lost.

  502. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 6:10 pm #

    Gun grabbers call for the assasination of the President of the NRA and simulataneously a repeal of the 2nd Ammendment. Read the Twitters and weep. Also I want an apology.

  503. Radu Voda December 14, 2012 at 6:12 pm #

    I missed that, a true Freudian slip on Prog’s part. You’ve earned your nut for the week.

  504. stelmosfire December 14, 2012 at 6:14 pm #

    To replay an old saw, “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” When guns are outlawed “Only outlaws will have guns.” I Have a gun, and if you mess with my family, neighbors, or myself I will shoot you. Any Questions?

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  505. progress?conserve December 14, 2012 at 6:15 pm #

    yeah, OK, nice catch
    Now, what about those thread archives?
    I’ve seen people imply that they existed at one time. Any ideas, K/Q?
    There are a couple of personalities still extant around CFN that I’d like to watch in development and psychoanalyze, if you get my drift.

  506. Buck's A Stud December 14, 2012 at 7:07 pm #

    You’re missing the point. I know you covert order in your own life and have been termed by observant neighbors as the anal one willing polish his own sidewalks while others simply pick up a broom but like the writer who deliberately leaves his prose bereft of commas in order to formally embody the idea of hurried haste you must know that JHK will not oversee his own sight with the type of vigilance that would suggest anything other than a mirror image of ClusterFuck nation; would you?

  507. Kyooshtik December 14, 2012 at 7:26 pm #

    he probably meant the Asshole, OEO, or me months ago
    I thought it was clear he was talking about that day, Monday, 12/10. Maybe RT, WSP7, etc will let us know whether they were banned on Monday.
    But it’s all mox nix, over the dam, under the bridge, anyway.

  508. k-dog December 14, 2012 at 7:43 pm #

    But if she says get lost nothing gets rendered.

  509. anti soak December 14, 2012 at 7:45 pm #

    dang, you got there first!
    heart rending

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