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These are the long, dark hours when cis-hetero white patriarchs sit by the hearth chewing over their regrets for the fading year and expectations for the year waiting to be born. I confess, I like Christmas a lot, Hebrew that I am, perhaps the musical and sensual trappings more than the virgin birth business. Something in my mixed Teutonic blood stirs to the paganism of blazing Yule logs, fragrant fir trees, rousing carols, and snow on snow on snow. I hope we can keep these hearty ceremonies… that they are not banished to the same puritanical limbo where the Prairie Home Companion archives were sent to rot.

One surviving old chestnut of the season is the 1946 movie, It’s a Wonderful Life, a movie so thick with gooey holiday sentiment, it’s like bathing in egg nog. It’s larded with messages of good-will-to-all-mankind, of course, but some of the less obvious themes — almost certainly unintended — tell the more interesting story about where America has come from in recent history and where it went. One thing for sure: every year that goes by, the America of It’s a Wonderful Life seems utterly unlike the sordid circus we live in now.

The movie takes place in a town, called Bedford Falls, like many in my corner of the country, upstate New York, or at least the way they used to be: alive, bustling with activity, with several layers of working, middle, and commercial classes employed at real productive work making things, and a thin candy shell of “the rich,” portrayed as unambiguously greedy and wicked — but overwhelmed in numbers by all the other good-hearted townspeople.

The movie depicts an American social structure that no longer exists. It’s both democratic and firmly hierarchical — owing probably to the lingering influence of army life in the recently concluded Second World War. Jimmy Stewart plays George Bailey, the head of an old-style family-owned Savings and Loan bank, a very modest institution dedicate to lending money for new homes. His competitor in town is the wicked old rich banker Henry Potter (Lionel Barrymore), a swindler and thief, who wants to put George out of business.

Bedford Falls is a man’s world. The women in the movie are portrayed as taking care of the “home front” and supporting the male “troops” in the toils of small town commerce — another social holdover from the war years. This depiction of life would surely give a case of the vapors to any post-structuralist college professors who dare to watch the movie.

Now here’s one catch in the story: the main business of George Bailey’s bank is lending money to build the first post-war suburban housing development outside of town, a project called Bailey Park. One of the pivotal scenes concerns the Martini family, immigrants, moving into their new suburban home with great sentimental fanfare. So, what we’re witnessing in that incident is the beginning of the destructive force that will soon blight small town life (and big city life, too) all over the country. Moviegoers in 1946 probably had little intuition of the consequences.

Another catch in the story involves the plot twist in which George Bailey misplaces a large sum of money ($8,000, actually purloined by the wicked villain, Mr. Potter). With his bank facing ruin, George contemplates suicide. He’s saved by his guardian angel, who goes on to show George what Bedford Falls would be like if he had never been born. It would be called Pottersville. Its Main Street would be bustling with gin mills, the sidewalks full of suspiciously available young ladies, the whole scene a sordid nest of vice and wickedness.

The catch is that Pottersville would have been a much better outcome for American small towns like Bedford Falls than what actually happened. Today, the lovely landscape of upstate New York today is dotted with small towns and even small cities that have absolutely nothing going on in them anymore, and stand in such awful desolation that you’d think a long war was fought here. Much of that is due to the activities of good-hearted suburban developers like George Bailey.

The Americans of 1946 must have had no idea where all this was headed, nor of the coming de-industrialization of the country that had won World War Two, or the massive social changes in the divisions of labor, or the annihilation of several layers of the working and middle classes, or the much greater wickedness of the generations of bankers who followed Henry Potter. It’s a Wonderful Life presents an American scene poised to arc toward tragedy. It’s an excellent lesson in the ironies of history and especially the dangers of getting what you wished for.

Readers may agree: we’ve never seen our country in such a state of ugly division, moral confusion, and intellectual disarray. A coherent consensus eludes us. Grievance, resentment, and bitterness boil and sputter everywhere. My Christmas wish is that we might put behind us some of the more idiotic and pointless debates of the past year and get on with tasks that really matter… that will allow us to remain civilized through the hardships to come. That’s how I roll this dark morning, here at the glowing hearth, while the Christmas day ahead, at least, offers some comforting stillness as the snow on snow on snow piles high. And so… to the presents waiting ominously under the twinkling tree.


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  1. Ol' Scratch December 25, 2017 at 9:15 am #

    Very nice Jim! It’s a Wonderful Life does indeed work on so many levels, ironic and otherwise. Watching the around the clock Christmas Story barrage on TBS as we speak, another nice little bit of nostalgia, sarcasm, irony, and sentimental humor all rolled into one, about a time now long gone and almost certainly never to return. It’s good to wax sappy, nostalgic, and sentimental from time to time, whether you fully buy into the illusion or not. A reminder of more innocent times when life’s possibilities seemed truly limitless. For all to soon now, we’ll be “girding our loins” once again for an uncertain future where sentiment is nowhere to be found, as we continue to march resolutely toward the war of all against all that looms ominously just over the horizon.

    Happy Holidays!

    • noel bodie December 25, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

      I watched I W L again last night, not because i wanted to but because I needed to. Capra’s parable is more true than ever with the arch libertarian Potter trying to control the economic lives of all the good folk of Bedford Falls. I would cast David Koch in the role today and Bernie Sanders as Clarence, the angel. Capra gets the politics and economics right in the movie and time and again shows a frame crammed with humanity and the true face of American democracy and egalitarian ideals. Potter’s rent seeking is pitted against George Bailey’s desire to provide Affordable housing to the masses. Act 3becomes a mini oddysey with George trying to get back home to friends and family. Capra’s view shows us the importance of, in JHK’s words, the value of having a place to care about. Regarding the knock that Bailey Park represents the Levittown of its day, true but suddenly we have gone from upstate n y to what is obviously the back lot of a hollywood studio….maybe that is foretelling the great post war migration to the golden state! All best for the season, cfn fans, noel.

      • My Point of View December 25, 2017 at 1:58 pm #

        Noel, my thoughts exactly…the Kochs want to run the country and line their pockets ever more fatly even though they couldn’t spend all their billions in ten thousand lifetimes. They are old bitter men like Mr. Potter in the movie.

        Kochs are harming our Federal, state and local governments via their massively funded political organization. They truly are a danger to us and our nation. No one elected them to a damned thing yet our GOP is busy doing their dirty work.

        Kochs are in cahoots with Bannon (Breitbart / National Enquirer) who stated at the CPAC convention that he had Trump deconstructing the administrative state. This implements the Koch agenda via major cuts to EPA staff and rules so Koch Industries can pollute more without consequences.

        • Walter B December 25, 2017 at 8:30 pm #

          All those that worship wealth be it the KB’s, the Clintons, the Soros’ or Rothchilds can never collect enough wealth. It is the hollow nature of that which has NO actual value. Perceived value is not sustaining and all of those that covet it will never find any real faith in collecting it. Their infatuation in that which has no value is a true impediment to their abilities to transcend the physical nature of this plane of existence. This is often manifest in the desire to extend mortal life forever or even just well beyond the actual useful span of years that we in human form should have. It must suck to be them.

          • sprawlcapital December 28, 2017 at 1:27 am #

            A lot in one brief paragraph, Walter.

            Regarding medical efforts to extend life beyond a useful span of years, this leads, at least for me, to the worst sort of cognitive dissonance, On the one had there is the now highly-developed and enormously expensive organ transplantation industry. On the other hand, there is our taxpayer (richly) -funded military, causing civilian deaths in foreign lands by means of drones and other high-tech weaponry.

            I guess hypocrisy is a necessary precondition for human civilization. On the other hand, Switzerland is very civilized and has a non-interventionist foreign policy.

            By the way, the groupthink mainstream media refer to the transplanted organ as a “new” heart or kidney or whatever. In fact, these organs are not new. They are used.

        • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:02 am #

          @My Point of View

          “Kochs are harming our Federal, state and local governments via their massively funded political organization. They truly are a danger to us and our nation. No one elected them to a damned thing yet our GOP is busy doing their dirty work.”

          Indeed:

          “The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism: ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.”

          FDR

      • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 3:58 pm #

        The “library” is presented as a place of suffering in the anti-intellectual milieu of Bedford Falls. Nothing is worse than Mary ending up as an Old Maid Librarian but for George. Even Clarence isn’t allowed to show him THAT. Everything else, but not THAT.

        • K-Dog December 25, 2017 at 6:11 pm #

          The “library” is presented as a place of suffering.

          Care to say how? No I did not think you would. And Clarence did show him that.

          I know the movie pretty good. I bought a copy after returning from my trip to ‘Bedford Falls’ last January and watched it. While I was there the movie was playing in an endless loop on the wall behind the reception desk of the Gould Hotel. I mention further down that Bedford Falls is actually Seneca Falls.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 8:14 pm #

            Watch it again, Sam. Clarence doesn’t want to show him Mary as an Old Maid at the Library. You are going to have to apologize to me – but you won’t.

          • K-Dog December 26, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

            But that has nothing to do with the library being a place of suffering. Clarence did not want to show Mary because she was alone in an empty life. That was Clarence’s motivation. Not because the library was a place of suffering.

            If all we are doing is splitting hairs here I do apologize, but I maintain you just like your random bullshit nonsense on this page to see if it can fly.

  2. robert magill December 25, 2017 at 9:30 am #

    The industry was slowly leached from New England and New York to the South where it was short lived on its way to Mexico. Lingered there for a bit until heading East.  It will have a permanent home in Asia until and unless Trump signs on to joining the Belt and Road initiative with the rest of the world. It’s now or never. Keep hoping.

    • Elrond Hubbard December 25, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

      How much would it cost to bridge the Bering Strait? Probably a lot less than Obama was planning to spend on refreshing the USA’s nuclear stockpile (Trump is going ahead with O’s plan), and far less likely to destroy the world in the end.

  3. Mountain gal December 25, 2017 at 9:31 am #

    I’ve never seen “It’s a Wonderful Life” but I get the idea. I’m spending time in Europe right now.While they certainly have their problems, one thing they did get right, probably as a result of being developed at a time that cars had not yet appeared on the scene, was the compact nature of their cities and towns.

    It’s a pure delight to be able to walk on walk-able streets with tons of local stores everywhere. Produce stores, bakeries, fish markets, small pharmacies; block after block. The quality can’t be beat either. As well, their mass transit is a delight. It’s easy to travel by train or bus from city to city and within by metros, light-rails, buses etc. Why anyone would own a car here is beyond me.

    And for those who do own cars, they are nearly all small compact cars. I haven’t seen a pick-up truck the entire time I’ve been here. Vans are reserved for business use and most are the small Ford Connect style ones. Lots of motorcycles, bikes, scooters, skates etc. I haven’t gotten to walk this much since probably the last time I was in Europe.

    That said there are lots of tensions here; the presence of heavily armed military and police evident at shopping areas, public squares, train stations etc. It’s a very uneasy feeling here and I’m not sure what will happen next. They did get the use of land right though; no evidence of sprawl. Farmland is neatly kept and beautifully laid out. Would that we would have done as they did on this.

    • My Point of View December 25, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

      Germany has 82M people living in an area slightly larger than NM, i.e., 137K sq miles for Germany vs 121K sq miles for NM. Land use there is tightly controlled, as you’re seeing, as they have to have agricultural land to feed themselves. There are compact towns and across the street it’s farmland, no sprawling suburbs.

      Rail transit works superbly with that density and compactness, as it sort of does in our own NE Corridor.. After WW-2 Germany got to rebuild much of its rail network.

      I enjoyed visiting there in the early 1980s but don’t think I could live in such tiny quarters as do most Europeans; I like my large SFH in wide open AZ.

      Many Germans buy a basic Mercedes with a ten year note and drive it little around town as public transit is good there. Gasoline runs in the range of $8/gallon or more due to taxes.

      I recall riding buses there and if a woman with a baby stroller needed to embark the driver would stop the bus, exit his seat, and help lift the stroller into the bus for the woman. If that happened here it would get sensational reporting as a rare good samaritan act. Over there it was just basic courtesy to your fellow citizen.

      Best to you and enjoy your trip.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 4:02 pm #

        You only get that in a homogenous society where everyone seems like family. Thus a wallet will sit on a sidewalk in Japan until someone returns for it or it is turned into the police. Family – not forced Marxism – family feeling. It can’t be forced.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 4:04 pm #

          And what do they seem like family? Because they are – compared to alien peoples. You think bringing Black Africans will help Japan? It would utterly destroy the delicacy of feeling and the brotherhood. Blacks are genetic aliens to the Japanese, and thus aliens in every sense.

          • K-Dog December 25, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

            No actually if they fuck they can have kids. Aliens can’t do that.

            You are a legend in your own mind Janos. You did guess right about Japanese being racist. Many a Japanese daughter has been disowned for marrying a white guy.

            Once I was twenty years old working as a bellhop in an upscale hotel. First job I ever had over minimum wage. Tips made the difference since I was only paid a buck fifty an hour.

            One day about a dozen Japanese businessmen were in the lobby. They did not notice me or considered me to be the same as furniture. Some white guy shows up as a spokesman for a meeting they would all have later with some American company. He talks to them briefly. After leaving the group the Japanese contingent figured they were alone and started talking.

            Janos, your vile distemper and hate had nothing on them. Equal filth to what you have ever spewed spewed from them then. But they had a different favorite color. It turns out they hate white people with a passion which they keep to themselves.

          • outsider December 25, 2017 at 7:33 pm #

            Well, K-Dog, since American whites dropped two A-bombs on them after they were already defeated, who could blame them.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 8:16 pm #

            You are utterly lost if you think Blacks could add anything to Japan or to any Asian or European country. You haven’t learned to love yourself in the right way and you hate anyone who can and has.

          • hmuller December 25, 2017 at 11:56 pm #

            K-Dog, good story but I’m a little confused. Were the Japanese businessmen talking with one another in English or do you understand Japanese?
            But yes, I’ve heard the Japanese think very highly of themselves. They see not just whites and blacks but other Asians as their inferiors. I think their national mythology teaches them that they are descended from gods.

          • SpeedyBB December 26, 2017 at 1:29 am #

            I was amused to read an official response to an appeal to build a mosque in a Japanese city, after it was politely rejected.

            ‘Islam is not suitable for Japan.’

            Wow, that’s telling them.

            Unfortunately the birth rate has gone into a flat spin and without immigration they look pretty much doomed – even with a generation of robots to serve the elderly.

          • K-Dog December 26, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

            hmuller good question. I was actually hoping someone would ask.

            The Japanese businessmen were mixing English and Japanese but they were speaking mostly English. They were making fun of what the white guy had said to them and were aping his mannerisms. I also think the group was sensitive about appearances and wanted the whites they were doing business with to think they were they were friendly and kissing ass. Perhaps the group had been told to speak English as mush as they could on their trip (which they all did perfectly abet with accent) to make positive impressions. Japanese are sensitive to such things.

            Many times I have been in the company of native Chinese who have no compunction speaking their language in the mixed company of English speakers. Even if their conversation is private it does not feel good to be in their company knowing they can speak English and that you are being excluded from everything they say. If they don’t know English that is another thing entirely. That is my two cents worth, and if I were a Japanese boss I’d order my people to speak English in America to make a good impression.

            When I was listening to their conversation I paid close attention to see if any of them were aware of my presence. I’m convinced they had mentally disregarded my being within earshot. It was a hotel lobby, exactly the place to mistake that you are not being overheard and I had twenty year old ears.

            Regarding young women who have been disowned by their Japanese families I know of two personally. My family is mixed race so I have an inside track on certain cultural attitudes that most Americans do not have. Neither of these two women that I referred to are part of my family. One was a former neighbor who had met her husband in Tokyo when he was working over there. Even his seven figure bank account was not good enough to win her family over but it was sufficient to win her over, obviously.

          • PeteAtomic December 29, 2017 at 3:26 am #

            Janos, the difference between you and me is that it is -9 F at my house.

            If you came and knocked at my door, I’d let you in. I’d feed you and let you sleep in my house. You were a person struggling to survive.

            You wouldn’t do the same for me. You would see me as a Pole, or a Russian, or some subhuman. You wouldn’t let me in your home. I’d have been struggling to survive.

            That’s the difference between our philosophies. That’s as basic as it gets.

        • toktomi December 25, 2017 at 11:04 pm #

          -> JS

          I cannot begin to imagine what life experiences brought you to freakishly conclude that biological homogeneity is anything other than a disaster in waiting with a hair trigger. The robustness of the Universe is expressed in its ubiquitous heterogeneity.

          For sure, Japan as a tiny niche in the Universe, lacks healthy heterogeneity and it shows in many aspects of their society. Isn’t it JHK that says Japan will probably be the first back to the feudal past?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 26, 2017 at 12:40 am #

            Ever read about how modern race horses came into being? Europeans love the fast, high spirited Arabian horses, but they were very small. So over the centuries, they carefully bred them with larger European horses, trying to get the size without losing the spirit and speed. Do you think the modern racehorse would benefit by being bred with some old nag, little pony, or big workhorse?

            Just so the Japanese. Or the Jews. Or Whites. We all are magnificent works of artful breeding and have much to lose. The first two know that, the last does not by and large. Thus we are being driven to extinction by the previous group.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 27, 2017 at 11:42 am #

            toktomi: “biological homogeneity is … a disaster in waiting with a hair trigger”.

            By ‘biological homogeneity’, I suspect you’re referring to lack of genetic diversity. It’s true that a species with absolutely no variation in its gene pool, where every individual is basically genetically identical, is endangered by the slightest change in environmental conditions.

            But a species can be homogenous while still retaining robust genetic diversity. Such diversity, dispersed far and wide, is a good thing for a species and greatly increases the likelihood of survival in changed conditions. Such a species has lots of genetic tools with which to roll with the punches.

            It’s also frequently assumed that hybridization (mating of individuals with relatively fewer shared genes) decreases diversity. But nature provides counterexamples — here’s a recent one:

            Rare Amazon bird species arose from ancient interspecies sex
            Golden-crowned manakin evolved its colour thousands of years after its parent species mated

            cbc.ca/news/technology/golden-crowned-manakin-1.4462762

            “Hundreds of thousands of years ago, a couple of birds with exotic tastes had an interspecies tryst.

            “Now, a Canadian-led team of scientists has confirmed their descendants are a new species that arose from the hybridization of two separate parent species — which happens very rarely in birds, as far as we know.

            “The golden-crowned manakin, a rare species found in Brazil’s Amazon rainforest, is a descendent of hybridization between the snow-capped manakin and the opal-crowned manakin, according to a team led by Alfredo Barrera-Guzman, who conducted the research during his PhD at the University of Toronto Scarborough.

            “And it appears that after becoming isolated from the parent species, the golden-crowned manakin evolved a very unique feature – bright yellow feathers on its forehead that are distinctly different from the bright white ones on the snow-capped manakin and iridescent bluish feathers on the opal-crowned manakin.

            “Jason Weir, co-author of the paper published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, said people often think of hybridization as something that erodes diversity. But this is an example of hybridization generating more of it.

            “‘That’s really exciting,’ said Weir, a professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at the University of Toronto Scarborough who supervised Barrera-Guzman.”

          • Janos Skorenzy December 27, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

            Thank you for teaching him, Elrond. Now be taught by your own self if not mine. Whites are a viable subspecies and have no need of “enrichment” from any other. Just so the East Asians. The learned Confucian, Lin Yutang, said the Chinese benefited from the genetic influx of the Mongols and Manchu barbarians – but only because they were genetically similar enough to be assimilated into what Chinese ALREADY WERE. To be Whited or Blacked out of existence is not any kind of viable diversity for them.

            The lack of subtlety is simply amazing – the result of endless years of Ideological drubbing by pedants such as yourself.

            Cheetahs have just such a lack of genetic diversity. Perhaps a species created by the Ancient Egyptians who used to hunt with them?

        • Mountain gal December 26, 2017 at 2:35 am #

          Janos

          Yes, that’s true to a great extent. The more I travel the more I see that many people want to live with those who they perceive to be “like them” and I don’t see any problem with it. I’ve been living for such a long time in a state that’s nearly all white and Christian so it’s rather homogeneous in that regard. Those of us who aren’t, such as myself, a Jew, just sort of learn to fit in and do our own thing.

          Here in Europe, for instance France where I am now, there are many tensions due to the influx of Muslims. I well understand that. There are entire areas where one would never realize they were in France other than occasional signage in French, street signs in French etc. Otherwise it’s all halal butchers, kebab shops and streets full of Arab men hanging around, especially in the south such as in Marseilles. I have to admit I’m really uncomfortable as a woman walking in these areas as they have no problem with staring at me. Very different social mores……. I don’t feel very safe in these areas. I understand the Brexit vote and I understand why the far right parties in Europe are gaining voters. They still scare me though as I know too well what the far-right can be capable of in Europe.

          Still, the multi-culturists believe in trying to make everyone live together and get along but in truth I think that the cultural mores are so different it’s not too likely. I see Europe as a powder keg due to this.I’m not saying that one culture is “better” than another although I do have my own thoughts on this that I’ll keep to myself. It’s just that when you try to force people who have very different beliefs and ways of living to live together it can get rather tense. In France’s case it doesn’t help any that one group seems intent on waging jihad on the “infidels” and this needless to say has created a lot of tension.

          I’m not ascribing to your racist views though and I know full well your thoughts on Jews as you express them often(why do you read this blog written by a Jew anyway?). Still, there are often kernels of truth to be found in what you say and I have no problem with acknowledging those.

        • hmuller December 26, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

          Regarding Janos’ thoughts on tribal solidarity.

          I spent nearly 5 years of my life in Korea. Their society still honors Confucian principles to include “the 5 relationships” each of which involves its own obligations, privileges, expectations, codes of behavior, etc. They are:
          1) Ruler & subject
          2) Father &son
          3) Husband and wife
          4) Older and younger brothers
          5) Friends, i.e. equals

          There is no relationship here for man & stranger. You can forget the Christian concept of the good Samaritan. I noticed a surprising lack of general good will and helpfulness among people in public who were strangers. People in America of different races help each other more than members of the Korean DNA family. Perhaps a long history of scarce resources has made them very selective in whom they help.

          To take a mild example:nepotism is a virtue. It goes without saying that you hire and take care of your relatives before strangers. A harsh example is a pedestrian hit by traffic, no one helps except the fortuitous passing Westerner. Korean orphanages – children without family – are in very sorry unfunded shape. (And I’m talking the full-blooded Korean orphans; the ones half white of half black don’t even survive long.)

          Unfortunately, some people will jump on my case and call me racist for my remarks. But I’m only describing my observation of social behaviors – every society functions in its own way.

    • Robert White December 25, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

      One of the greatest cars ever built was a 1949 Merc. When chopped & slammed they are a good ride especially with a Crate 502 & cast iron Powerglide. Add flat black high build primer, and white walls.

      Can’t imagine driving around Europe in a 49 Merc? You go to your church, and i’ll go to mine.

      Look at Art Deco Cars via Google. Art Deco cars started in the EU first. Europe must have a car museum, eh.

      Jane Jacobs was not a car guy!

      RW

    • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 4:00 pm #

      What’s next? Being conquered by Islam of course. But being against that would be “racist”, right?

      • Allamadness December 26, 2017 at 10:35 am #

        For Global Conquest read Caliphate. Islam and it’s teachings leads directly to the desire to form an isolated Islamutopia where non- believers do not exist. There are no national or cultural boundaries that it wishes to recognise. We have many Islamic Cultural Centres in the UK. Most are peaceable but they make it clear that they have little desire to integrate with the indigenous population and it is my belief that when their numbers pass a critical point, they will become even more demanding and belligerent; a situation that has up until now, been nurtured and encouraged by the political and global elites. Those on the left here, are still under the delusion that two diametrically opposed systems can thrive together, despite growing evidence to the contrary. The authorities here are desperate to suppress any protest, dissent or comment about what is obvious to anyone with half a brain remaining. There is a constant stream of propaganda from the media and from the outside, an observer could be forgiven for thinking that the UK is predominately Asian/black in culture. The resentments here that have built up (Brexit leave) because of TPTB and their undemocratic behaviour, have resulted in the rejection of the EU and it’s open and uncontrollable borders and immigration policies.
        Which the globalists are determined to overturn.

        • GreenAlba December 26, 2017 at 6:27 pm #

          “…an observer could be forgiven for thinking that the UK is predominately Asian/black in culture.”

          Perhaps you could just refer them to any internet search engine. Correcting their prejudices would take seconds.

          Population of England and Wales from the latest census:

          White (total) 87.1%
          Asian (total) 6.9%
          Black 3.0%
          Mixed 2.0%

          Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom

          Scotland is 96% white:

          gov.scot/Topics/People/Equality/Equalities/DataGrid/Ethnicity/EthPopMig

          It would be helpful if people would stop spreading nonsense.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 27, 2017 at 3:54 am #

            Yet Mohammad is the most popular boy’s name in England. The future is Islamic as you well know and celebrate. Stop lying.

            It should be 100% White. Of Course! I mean you still haven’t found anything in Blackstone’s books of Common Law that gives the Government the right to give the Country to another people, have you?

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:20 am #

            Wrong again, Janos. The top names in England and Wales are Olivia and Oliver.

            telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/20/oliver-olivia-crowned-countrys-popular-baby-names/

            Muhammed was the eighth most popular boy’s name, after Oliver, Harry, George, Jack, Jacob, Noah and Charlie. And, because you’re not stupid (but are extremely manipulative) you will know that a very large proportion of Muslim boys are called Muhammed or variations of Muhammed, so that further skews the order. If there were an equal distribution of Muslim boys’ names to non-Muslim boys’ names, it would be way, way further down the list. That should be obvious to you, given that the percentage of Muslims in England is 5.2. That’s 5.2 out of an entire hundred, Janos, just to be clear.

            But it makes a good misquoted headline on the kind of sites you quote on here – sites I’d have to wear thick rubber gloves to click on and then use alcohol to clean my hands afterwards, just to be doubly sure.

            The quote you managed to misquote was that Muhammed was the most popular boy’s name in London and the West Midlands. But that still carries the proviso above about the excessive popularity of the name *within* the Muslim community. You are presumably at least slightly acquainted with arithmetic and statistics, in addition to rhetoric.

            “I mean you still haven’t found anything in Blackstone’s books of Common Law that gives the Government the right to give the Country to another people, have you?”

            Stop talking nonsense.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:39 am #

            You made a comment in another context about women being reluctant to apologise.

            So let’s see how good you are at it. I don’t want one with any ifs or buts. Just a simple ‘I’m sorry, I misquoted the statistics for effect’ will do nicely, without the trimmings.

            You owe me another one as well. You said on a previous thread:

            “Likewise, she thinks Muslimas should be able to cover their faces all the time – even for ID photos.”

            This is stupid, and desperately so, even for you. K-Dog already called you out on your totally unjustified assertion, but the apology is owed to me. I’m waiting…

            You don’t know anything about my views on Muslim women’s wear. Having lived and worked for several years in France, I have experience of differing views on the matter and mine are quite nuanced. But your statement above remains utterly stupid. Even in Muslim countries, women’s ID photos show their face. But you knew that, because it’s blindingly obvious that their wouldn’t be any point otherwise.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:40 am #

            “The future is Islamic as you well know and celebrate. Stop lying.”

            Another one requiring an apology.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:55 am #

            Now here’s another of your silly assertions. I don’t require an apology for this one but it really does require a response to its silliness. I answered it last night but you may not have seen it on the other thread, so I will repeat it roughly here.

            Your quote:

            “Offhand I would have said she doesn’t get around much,
            but I think she said she doesn’t have a car.”

            Now, I realise that many Americans can’t move without a car, but you really need to get your head around the fact that in other places people are not thus handicapped. Freedom from car ownership brings the benefit of actually mixing with your community and other communities you visit.

            Perhaps your level of logic requires you to think that people who use public transport most of the time see less than people travelling in their own little hermetically sealed bubble. A little thought would tell you this is nonsense.

            I can get from my home to anywhere in Europe by train. When I visited your country I had to take a plane like everyone else. (As I also did when I visited a couple of Muslim countries, incidentally, including Syria). When I really need a car, which is rarely, I hire one.

            I choose not to keep a car because I prefer not to increase my CO2 footprint any further than I need to. And I really don’t see why a rational person would keep an expensive-to-maintain hunk of steel parked on the street when there’s a bus stop 60 seconds’ walk from their front door or they can walk to the centre of their city, where it’s difficult to park, in 25 minutes.

            My husband doesn’t keep a car either – entirely through choice. He’s rational too. And male.

            We even have taxis in our neck of the woods, because it’s a pretty civilised neck of the woods.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:59 am #

            Apologies for the typo ‘their’ instead of ‘there’ above.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

            PS regarding car ownership, there are two cars in my street, some 20 yards from my home, which I can hire any time by the hour because I’m a member of the City Car Club. I rarely need them.

            Those two cars probably keep 100 notional private cars from clogging up our city even more than it’s already clogged up. And I can hire one online or by phone anywhere else in the city or in any other city that has a branch of the same car club. So that’s a whole lot of unnecessary private cars kept off the road and more parking spaces for the incurably car-dependent.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 27, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

            GreenAlba: Your efforts to discipline Janos back toward some kind of sanity are laudable. Let’s just say I’m pessimistic about the outcome.

            There’s a quote attributed to Daniel Patrick Moynihan: “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” Janos is the kind of person who hears a thing like that and responds, “Oh yeah? Hold my beer.” The dedicated bigot is playing by completely different rules. In his world, his prejudices loom far larger than mere events in actual time and space, no matter how readily verified.

          • Allamadness December 27, 2017 at 3:19 pm #

            If the Wiki statistics are believable, (and as Wikipedia is part of a globalist driven corporation, I doubt their accuracy in comparison to what is a moving target), then why is it that minority representation in the British media exposure is so skewed in the minorities favour?
            Uncontrolled mass immigration has specifically impacted on certain small geograhical areas here in the UK and on certain communities.You should have an awareness of that, because you are on a site that has “Clusterfuck” as its hook.
            An example of where your argument falls short would be if I were to quote average land mass divided by total dwellings in the USA. How much land would each house have? The average would simply tell you nothing about any local conditions.
            Quoting average statistics is irrelevant to the experiences of the individual. I trained in statistical analysis, so I do have some knowledge about how easy it is to present average results in favour of an opinion.
            An ounce of experience is worth more than a pound of theory and my experience with my home town (which I will not name because I still have left some nostalgic affection for it), is that it is now 48% Islamic and increasing. That is a fact. Tell your statistics to an isolated, indigenous resident of a street, where they are now an old rarity. Ask them how they feel about their situation, the ones that earlier had no wings for white flight. The problem with the Islamic community is that they are, by their own rigours, unable to fully integrate into the indigenous cultures that they occupy. A live example of that is the Islamic Cultural Centre which is close to where I rent out an apartment. I walk past the centre regularly and can attest to the fact that not once have the many worshippers given me any acknowledgement of any kind, despite my efforts to make contact. Next time you skate over some one’s concerns, you may want to be a little less dismissive. Your attitude is unfortunately that of the lefties and politicians here. They see the fly on my wall at a thousand yards, but they fail to see the elephant in their room.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 28, 2017 at 2:33 am #

            Thank you for your correction! For the first time I got you to reveal, in your own words and without realizing it, the magnitude of the Muslim threat. It’s like what a brother did to Laurel Southern, an alt-lite chick. He accused her of dating Muslims. She bristled and ON TWITTER – corrected him saying, dating a half Irish, half Black Englishman is not the same as dating a Muslim. Outed and destroyed (in terms of making money by begging from us) by her own hand.

            London is now Londonistan. The Capital! Yet still you slumber….

          • Janos Skorenzy December 28, 2017 at 2:39 am #

            Thanks Allam, for trying to talk some sense into this bird. I fear it’s hopeless, such is her arrogance and Leftist privilege.

            I think it’s worse than you believe. I’ve seen videos where Muslim Leaders say they have no intention of assimilating. They never did. They are colonists, intent on assimilating us. The hijrah (migration) goes hand in hand with the Jihad. Already secret weapon shipments to Europe have been intercepted.

  4. daytrip December 25, 2017 at 9:35 am #

    Funny, I just read (Hegel or Schopenhauer?) that if you adhere to Christianity because you find it reasonal and/or rational, you’ve missed the point. Perhaps, it isn’t to be taken literally, Jim. Not telling you anything you don’t already know. Joseph Campbell says the same thing. Myths (and I hesitate to call religions mere myths) are metaphors (J. Campbell), and not to be taken too literally. But, they give a way to understand the world. JC (Big Joe) stated over and over that the lack of a working mythology in today’s society is why we have become so rudderless. Now you can take that to the bank.

    • Ol' Scratch December 25, 2017 at 10:04 am #

      Thanks daytrip. To my mind as well, Campbell had it exactly right. I think Greer made comments to the that effect as well, that as societies grew old and past their expiration dates, their founding myths gradually became entrenched as “facts”, as the people could no longer appreciate them on the subliminal level they were originally intended to speak to. Christianity has long been at that stage, a virtual hero cult of personality, and I expect we’ll be seeing comments here shortly to the effect that that idea is utter bullshit, and that the literal truth of the Holy Bible is incontrovertible and eternal, forever and ever Amen! To each his own I guess. Everyone is searching for meaning and truth somewhere these days, in a land where the gospel truth is either everywhere or nowhere, depending on who you ask. The only founding myth remaining these days is exceptionalism of a myriad various stripes; which, given our current circumstances, is entirely rational as well.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 4:08 pm #

        Myths are things that never were but always are. On that level, Christianity is as real as a short skirt riding high on a nice round feminine rump and as rational as a quadratic equation.

        God became Man that Man might become God.

        • K-Dog December 25, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

          as real as a short skirt riding high on a nice round feminine rump and as rational as a quadratic equation.

          I liked that ! Everything but last four words. There you blew it.

          • K-Dog December 25, 2017 at 5:44 pm #

            Clarification:

            ‘that Man might become God.

            Five words.

        • messianicdruid December 25, 2017 at 6:30 pm #

          The Kingdom of God is a form of government, not a religion, nor a myth. We are being allowed to try everything we can come up with and it has all failed spectacularly.

          It is smorgasbord religion [ “to each his own” ] that has accomplished this. Taking a little here and a little there from every carnal or demon-inspired concoction has created chaos and oppression.

          “ A coherent consensus eludes us.” – because “ ‘we’ will not have this man to rule over us.”

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  1. Ol' Scratch December 25, 2017 at 9:15 am #

    Very nice Jim! It’s a Wonderful Life does indeed work on so many levels, ironic and otherwise. Watching the around the clock Christmas Story barrage on TBS as we speak, another nice little bit of nostalgia, sarcasm, irony, and sentimental humor all rolled into one, about a time now long gone and almost certainly never to return. It’s good to wax sappy, nostalgic, and sentimental from time to time, whether you fully buy into the illusion or not. A reminder of more innocent times when life’s possibilities seemed truly limitless. For all to soon now, we’ll be “girding our loins” once again for an uncertain future where sentiment is nowhere to be found, as we continue to march resolutely toward the war of all against all that looms ominously just over the horizon.

    Happy Holidays!

    • noel bodie December 25, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

      I watched I W L again last night, not because i wanted to but because I needed to. Capra’s parable is more true than ever with the arch libertarian Potter trying to control the economic lives of all the good folk of Bedford Falls. I would cast David Koch in the role today and Bernie Sanders as Clarence, the angel. Capra gets the politics and economics right in the movie and time and again shows a frame crammed with humanity and the true face of American democracy and egalitarian ideals. Potter’s rent seeking is pitted against George Bailey’s desire to provide Affordable housing to the masses. Act 3becomes a mini oddysey with George trying to get back home to friends and family. Capra’s view shows us the importance of, in JHK’s words, the value of having a place to care about. Regarding the knock that Bailey Park represents the Levittown of its day, true but suddenly we have gone from upstate n y to what is obviously the back lot of a hollywood studio….maybe that is foretelling the great post war migration to the golden state! All best for the season, cfn fans, noel.

      • My Point of View December 25, 2017 at 1:58 pm #

        Noel, my thoughts exactly…the Kochs want to run the country and line their pockets ever more fatly even though they couldn’t spend all their billions in ten thousand lifetimes. They are old bitter men like Mr. Potter in the movie.

        Kochs are harming our Federal, state and local governments via their massively funded political organization. They truly are a danger to us and our nation. No one elected them to a damned thing yet our GOP is busy doing their dirty work.

        Kochs are in cahoots with Bannon (Breitbart / National Enquirer) who stated at the CPAC convention that he had Trump deconstructing the administrative state. This implements the Koch agenda via major cuts to EPA staff and rules so Koch Industries can pollute more without consequences.

        • Walter B December 25, 2017 at 8:30 pm #

          All those that worship wealth be it the KB’s, the Clintons, the Soros’ or Rothchilds can never collect enough wealth. It is the hollow nature of that which has NO actual value. Perceived value is not sustaining and all of those that covet it will never find any real faith in collecting it. Their infatuation in that which has no value is a true impediment to their abilities to transcend the physical nature of this plane of existence. This is often manifest in the desire to extend mortal life forever or even just well beyond the actual useful span of years that we in human form should have. It must suck to be them.

          • sprawlcapital December 28, 2017 at 1:27 am #

            A lot in one brief paragraph, Walter.

            Regarding medical efforts to extend life beyond a useful span of years, this leads, at least for me, to the worst sort of cognitive dissonance, On the one had there is the now highly-developed and enormously expensive organ transplantation industry. On the other hand, there is our taxpayer (richly) -funded military, causing civilian deaths in foreign lands by means of drones and other high-tech weaponry.

            I guess hypocrisy is a necessary precondition for human civilization. On the other hand, Switzerland is very civilized and has a non-interventionist foreign policy.

            By the way, the groupthink mainstream media refer to the transplanted organ as a “new” heart or kidney or whatever. In fact, these organs are not new. They are used.

        • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:02 am #

          @My Point of View

          “Kochs are harming our Federal, state and local governments via their massively funded political organization. They truly are a danger to us and our nation. No one elected them to a damned thing yet our GOP is busy doing their dirty work.”

          Indeed:

          “The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism: ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.”

          FDR

      • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 3:58 pm #

        The “library” is presented as a place of suffering in the anti-intellectual milieu of Bedford Falls. Nothing is worse than Mary ending up as an Old Maid Librarian but for George. Even Clarence isn’t allowed to show him THAT. Everything else, but not THAT.

        • K-Dog December 25, 2017 at 6:11 pm #

          The “library” is presented as a place of suffering.

          Care to say how? No I did not think you would. And Clarence did show him that.

          I know the movie pretty good. I bought a copy after returning from my trip to ‘Bedford Falls’ last January and watched it. While I was there the movie was playing in an endless loop on the wall behind the reception desk of the Gould Hotel. I mention further down that Bedford Falls is actually Seneca Falls.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 8:14 pm #

            Watch it again, Sam. Clarence doesn’t want to show him Mary as an Old Maid at the Library. You are going to have to apologize to me – but you won’t.

          • K-Dog December 26, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

            But that has nothing to do with the library being a place of suffering. Clarence did not want to show Mary because she was alone in an empty life. That was Clarence’s motivation. Not because the library was a place of suffering.

            If all we are doing is splitting hairs here I do apologize, but I maintain you just like your random bullshit nonsense on this page to see if it can fly.

  2. robert magill December 25, 2017 at 9:30 am #

    The industry was slowly leached from New England and New York to the South where it was short lived on its way to Mexico. Lingered there for a bit until heading East.  It will have a permanent home in Asia until and unless Trump signs on to joining the Belt and Road initiative with the rest of the world. It’s now or never. Keep hoping.

    • Elrond Hubbard December 25, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

      How much would it cost to bridge the Bering Strait? Probably a lot less than Obama was planning to spend on refreshing the USA’s nuclear stockpile (Trump is going ahead with O’s plan), and far less likely to destroy the world in the end.

  3. Mountain gal December 25, 2017 at 9:31 am #

    I’ve never seen “It’s a Wonderful Life” but I get the idea. I’m spending time in Europe right now.While they certainly have their problems, one thing they did get right, probably as a result of being developed at a time that cars had not yet appeared on the scene, was the compact nature of their cities and towns.

    It’s a pure delight to be able to walk on walk-able streets with tons of local stores everywhere. Produce stores, bakeries, fish markets, small pharmacies; block after block. The quality can’t be beat either. As well, their mass transit is a delight. It’s easy to travel by train or bus from city to city and within by metros, light-rails, buses etc. Why anyone would own a car here is beyond me.

    And for those who do own cars, they are nearly all small compact cars. I haven’t seen a pick-up truck the entire time I’ve been here. Vans are reserved for business use and most are the small Ford Connect style ones. Lots of motorcycles, bikes, scooters, skates etc. I haven’t gotten to walk this much since probably the last time I was in Europe.

    That said there are lots of tensions here; the presence of heavily armed military and police evident at shopping areas, public squares, train stations etc. It’s a very uneasy feeling here and I’m not sure what will happen next. They did get the use of land right though; no evidence of sprawl. Farmland is neatly kept and beautifully laid out. Would that we would have done as they did on this.

    • My Point of View December 25, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

      Germany has 82M people living in an area slightly larger than NM, i.e., 137K sq miles for Germany vs 121K sq miles for NM. Land use there is tightly controlled, as you’re seeing, as they have to have agricultural land to feed themselves. There are compact towns and across the street it’s farmland, no sprawling suburbs.

      Rail transit works superbly with that density and compactness, as it sort of does in our own NE Corridor.. After WW-2 Germany got to rebuild much of its rail network.

      I enjoyed visiting there in the early 1980s but don’t think I could live in such tiny quarters as do most Europeans; I like my large SFH in wide open AZ.

      Many Germans buy a basic Mercedes with a ten year note and drive it little around town as public transit is good there. Gasoline runs in the range of $8/gallon or more due to taxes.

      I recall riding buses there and if a woman with a baby stroller needed to embark the driver would stop the bus, exit his seat, and help lift the stroller into the bus for the woman. If that happened here it would get sensational reporting as a rare good samaritan act. Over there it was just basic courtesy to your fellow citizen.

      Best to you and enjoy your trip.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 4:02 pm #

        You only get that in a homogenous society where everyone seems like family. Thus a wallet will sit on a sidewalk in Japan until someone returns for it or it is turned into the police. Family – not forced Marxism – family feeling. It can’t be forced.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 4:04 pm #

          And what do they seem like family? Because they are – compared to alien peoples. You think bringing Black Africans will help Japan? It would utterly destroy the delicacy of feeling and the brotherhood. Blacks are genetic aliens to the Japanese, and thus aliens in every sense.

          • K-Dog December 25, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

            No actually if they fuck they can have kids. Aliens can’t do that.

            You are a legend in your own mind Janos. You did guess right about Japanese being racist. Many a Japanese daughter has been disowned for marrying a white guy.

            Once I was twenty years old working as a bellhop in an upscale hotel. First job I ever had over minimum wage. Tips made the difference since I was only paid a buck fifty an hour.

            One day about a dozen Japanese businessmen were in the lobby. They did not notice me or considered me to be the same as furniture. Some white guy shows up as a spokesman for a meeting they would all have later with some American company. He talks to them briefly. After leaving the group the Japanese contingent figured they were alone and started talking.

            Janos, your vile distemper and hate had nothing on them. Equal filth to what you have ever spewed spewed from them then. But they had a different favorite color. It turns out they hate white people with a passion which they keep to themselves.

          • outsider December 25, 2017 at 7:33 pm #

            Well, K-Dog, since American whites dropped two A-bombs on them after they were already defeated, who could blame them.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 8:16 pm #

            You are utterly lost if you think Blacks could add anything to Japan or to any Asian or European country. You haven’t learned to love yourself in the right way and you hate anyone who can and has.

          • hmuller December 25, 2017 at 11:56 pm #

            K-Dog, good story but I’m a little confused. Were the Japanese businessmen talking with one another in English or do you understand Japanese?
            But yes, I’ve heard the Japanese think very highly of themselves. They see not just whites and blacks but other Asians as their inferiors. I think their national mythology teaches them that they are descended from gods.

          • SpeedyBB December 26, 2017 at 1:29 am #

            I was amused to read an official response to an appeal to build a mosque in a Japanese city, after it was politely rejected.

            ‘Islam is not suitable for Japan.’

            Wow, that’s telling them.

            Unfortunately the birth rate has gone into a flat spin and without immigration they look pretty much doomed – even with a generation of robots to serve the elderly.

          • K-Dog December 26, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

            hmuller good question. I was actually hoping someone would ask.

            The Japanese businessmen were mixing English and Japanese but they were speaking mostly English. They were making fun of what the white guy had said to them and were aping his mannerisms. I also think the group was sensitive about appearances and wanted the whites they were doing business with to think they were they were friendly and kissing ass. Perhaps the group had been told to speak English as mush as they could on their trip (which they all did perfectly abet with accent) to make positive impressions. Japanese are sensitive to such things.

            Many times I have been in the company of native Chinese who have no compunction speaking their language in the mixed company of English speakers. Even if their conversation is private it does not feel good to be in their company knowing they can speak English and that you are being excluded from everything they say. If they don’t know English that is another thing entirely. That is my two cents worth, and if I were a Japanese boss I’d order my people to speak English in America to make a good impression.

            When I was listening to their conversation I paid close attention to see if any of them were aware of my presence. I’m convinced they had mentally disregarded my being within earshot. It was a hotel lobby, exactly the place to mistake that you are not being overheard and I had twenty year old ears.

            Regarding young women who have been disowned by their Japanese families I know of two personally. My family is mixed race so I have an inside track on certain cultural attitudes that most Americans do not have. Neither of these two women that I referred to are part of my family. One was a former neighbor who had met her husband in Tokyo when he was working over there. Even his seven figure bank account was not good enough to win her family over but it was sufficient to win her over, obviously.

          • PeteAtomic December 29, 2017 at 3:26 am #

            Janos, the difference between you and me is that it is -9 F at my house.

            If you came and knocked at my door, I’d let you in. I’d feed you and let you sleep in my house. You were a person struggling to survive.

            You wouldn’t do the same for me. You would see me as a Pole, or a Russian, or some subhuman. You wouldn’t let me in your home. I’d have been struggling to survive.

            That’s the difference between our philosophies. That’s as basic as it gets.

        • toktomi December 25, 2017 at 11:04 pm #

          -> JS

          I cannot begin to imagine what life experiences brought you to freakishly conclude that biological homogeneity is anything other than a disaster in waiting with a hair trigger. The robustness of the Universe is expressed in its ubiquitous heterogeneity.

          For sure, Japan as a tiny niche in the Universe, lacks healthy heterogeneity and it shows in many aspects of their society. Isn’t it JHK that says Japan will probably be the first back to the feudal past?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 26, 2017 at 12:40 am #

            Ever read about how modern race horses came into being? Europeans love the fast, high spirited Arabian horses, but they were very small. So over the centuries, they carefully bred them with larger European horses, trying to get the size without losing the spirit and speed. Do you think the modern racehorse would benefit by being bred with some old nag, little pony, or big workhorse?

            Just so the Japanese. Or the Jews. Or Whites. We all are magnificent works of artful breeding and have much to lose. The first two know that, the last does not by and large. Thus we are being driven to extinction by the previous group.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 27, 2017 at 11:42 am #

            toktomi: “biological homogeneity is … a disaster in waiting with a hair trigger”.

            By ‘biological homogeneity’, I suspect you’re referring to lack of genetic diversity. It’s true that a species with absolutely no variation in its gene pool, where every individual is basically genetically identical, is endangered by the slightest change in environmental conditions.

            But a species can be homogenous while still retaining robust genetic diversity. Such diversity, dispersed far and wide, is a good thing for a species and greatly increases the likelihood of survival in changed conditions. Such a species has lots of genetic tools with which to roll with the punches.

            It’s also frequently assumed that hybridization (mating of individuals with relatively fewer shared genes) decreases diversity. But nature provides counterexamples — here’s a recent one:

            Rare Amazon bird species arose from ancient interspecies sex
            Golden-crowned manakin evolved its colour thousands of years after its parent species mated

            cbc.ca/news/technology/golden-crowned-manakin-1.4462762

            “Hundreds of thousands of years ago, a couple of birds with exotic tastes had an interspecies tryst.

            “Now, a Canadian-led team of scientists has confirmed their descendants are a new species that arose from the hybridization of two separate parent species — which happens very rarely in birds, as far as we know.

            “The golden-crowned manakin, a rare species found in Brazil’s Amazon rainforest, is a descendent of hybridization between the snow-capped manakin and the opal-crowned manakin, according to a team led by Alfredo Barrera-Guzman, who conducted the research during his PhD at the University of Toronto Scarborough.

            “And it appears that after becoming isolated from the parent species, the golden-crowned manakin evolved a very unique feature – bright yellow feathers on its forehead that are distinctly different from the bright white ones on the snow-capped manakin and iridescent bluish feathers on the opal-crowned manakin.

            “Jason Weir, co-author of the paper published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, said people often think of hybridization as something that erodes diversity. But this is an example of hybridization generating more of it.

            “‘That’s really exciting,’ said Weir, a professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at the University of Toronto Scarborough who supervised Barrera-Guzman.”

          • Janos Skorenzy December 27, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

            Thank you for teaching him, Elrond. Now be taught by your own self if not mine. Whites are a viable subspecies and have no need of “enrichment” from any other. Just so the East Asians. The learned Confucian, Lin Yutang, said the Chinese benefited from the genetic influx of the Mongols and Manchu barbarians – but only because they were genetically similar enough to be assimilated into what Chinese ALREADY WERE. To be Whited or Blacked out of existence is not any kind of viable diversity for them.

            The lack of subtlety is simply amazing – the result of endless years of Ideological drubbing by pedants such as yourself.

            Cheetahs have just such a lack of genetic diversity. Perhaps a species created by the Ancient Egyptians who used to hunt with them?

        • Mountain gal December 26, 2017 at 2:35 am #

          Janos

          Yes, that’s true to a great extent. The more I travel the more I see that many people want to live with those who they perceive to be “like them” and I don’t see any problem with it. I’ve been living for such a long time in a state that’s nearly all white and Christian so it’s rather homogeneous in that regard. Those of us who aren’t, such as myself, a Jew, just sort of learn to fit in and do our own thing.

          Here in Europe, for instance France where I am now, there are many tensions due to the influx of Muslims. I well understand that. There are entire areas where one would never realize they were in France other than occasional signage in French, street signs in French etc. Otherwise it’s all halal butchers, kebab shops and streets full of Arab men hanging around, especially in the south such as in Marseilles. I have to admit I’m really uncomfortable as a woman walking in these areas as they have no problem with staring at me. Very different social mores……. I don’t feel very safe in these areas. I understand the Brexit vote and I understand why the far right parties in Europe are gaining voters. They still scare me though as I know too well what the far-right can be capable of in Europe.

          Still, the multi-culturists believe in trying to make everyone live together and get along but in truth I think that the cultural mores are so different it’s not too likely. I see Europe as a powder keg due to this.I’m not saying that one culture is “better” than another although I do have my own thoughts on this that I’ll keep to myself. It’s just that when you try to force people who have very different beliefs and ways of living to live together it can get rather tense. In France’s case it doesn’t help any that one group seems intent on waging jihad on the “infidels” and this needless to say has created a lot of tension.

          I’m not ascribing to your racist views though and I know full well your thoughts on Jews as you express them often(why do you read this blog written by a Jew anyway?). Still, there are often kernels of truth to be found in what you say and I have no problem with acknowledging those.

        • hmuller December 26, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

          Regarding Janos’ thoughts on tribal solidarity.

          I spent nearly 5 years of my life in Korea. Their society still honors Confucian principles to include “the 5 relationships” each of which involves its own obligations, privileges, expectations, codes of behavior, etc. They are:
          1) Ruler & subject
          2) Father &son
          3) Husband and wife
          4) Older and younger brothers
          5) Friends, i.e. equals

          There is no relationship here for man & stranger. You can forget the Christian concept of the good Samaritan. I noticed a surprising lack of general good will and helpfulness among people in public who were strangers. People in America of different races help each other more than members of the Korean DNA family. Perhaps a long history of scarce resources has made them very selective in whom they help.

          To take a mild example:nepotism is a virtue. It goes without saying that you hire and take care of your relatives before strangers. A harsh example is a pedestrian hit by traffic, no one helps except the fortuitous passing Westerner. Korean orphanages – children without family – are in very sorry unfunded shape. (And I’m talking the full-blooded Korean orphans; the ones half white of half black don’t even survive long.)

          Unfortunately, some people will jump on my case and call me racist for my remarks. But I’m only describing my observation of social behaviors – every society functions in its own way.

    • Robert White December 25, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

      One of the greatest cars ever built was a 1949 Merc. When chopped & slammed they are a good ride especially with a Crate 502 & cast iron Powerglide. Add flat black high build primer, and white walls.

      Can’t imagine driving around Europe in a 49 Merc? You go to your church, and i’ll go to mine.

      Look at Art Deco Cars via Google. Art Deco cars started in the EU first. Europe must have a car museum, eh.

      Jane Jacobs was not a car guy!

      RW

    • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 4:00 pm #

      What’s next? Being conquered by Islam of course. But being against that would be “racist”, right?

      • Allamadness December 26, 2017 at 10:35 am #

        For Global Conquest read Caliphate. Islam and it’s teachings leads directly to the desire to form an isolated Islamutopia where non- believers do not exist. There are no national or cultural boundaries that it wishes to recognise. We have many Islamic Cultural Centres in the UK. Most are peaceable but they make it clear that they have little desire to integrate with the indigenous population and it is my belief that when their numbers pass a critical point, they will become even more demanding and belligerent; a situation that has up until now, been nurtured and encouraged by the political and global elites. Those on the left here, are still under the delusion that two diametrically opposed systems can thrive together, despite growing evidence to the contrary. The authorities here are desperate to suppress any protest, dissent or comment about what is obvious to anyone with half a brain remaining. There is a constant stream of propaganda from the media and from the outside, an observer could be forgiven for thinking that the UK is predominately Asian/black in culture. The resentments here that have built up (Brexit leave) because of TPTB and their undemocratic behaviour, have resulted in the rejection of the EU and it’s open and uncontrollable borders and immigration policies.
        Which the globalists are determined to overturn.

        • GreenAlba December 26, 2017 at 6:27 pm #

          “…an observer could be forgiven for thinking that the UK is predominately Asian/black in culture.”

          Perhaps you could just refer them to any internet search engine. Correcting their prejudices would take seconds.

          Population of England and Wales from the latest census:

          White (total) 87.1%
          Asian (total) 6.9%
          Black 3.0%
          Mixed 2.0%

          Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom

          Scotland is 96% white:

          gov.scot/Topics/People/Equality/Equalities/DataGrid/Ethnicity/EthPopMig

          It would be helpful if people would stop spreading nonsense.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 27, 2017 at 3:54 am #

            Yet Mohammad is the most popular boy’s name in England. The future is Islamic as you well know and celebrate. Stop lying.

            It should be 100% White. Of Course! I mean you still haven’t found anything in Blackstone’s books of Common Law that gives the Government the right to give the Country to another people, have you?

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:20 am #

            Wrong again, Janos. The top names in England and Wales are Olivia and Oliver.

            telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/20/oliver-olivia-crowned-countrys-popular-baby-names/

            Muhammed was the eighth most popular boy’s name, after Oliver, Harry, George, Jack, Jacob, Noah and Charlie. And, because you’re not stupid (but are extremely manipulative) you will know that a very large proportion of Muslim boys are called Muhammed or variations of Muhammed, so that further skews the order. If there were an equal distribution of Muslim boys’ names to non-Muslim boys’ names, it would be way, way further down the list. That should be obvious to you, given that the percentage of Muslims in England is 5.2. That’s 5.2 out of an entire hundred, Janos, just to be clear.

            But it makes a good misquoted headline on the kind of sites you quote on here – sites I’d have to wear thick rubber gloves to click on and then use alcohol to clean my hands afterwards, just to be doubly sure.

            The quote you managed to misquote was that Muhammed was the most popular boy’s name in London and the West Midlands. But that still carries the proviso above about the excessive popularity of the name *within* the Muslim community. You are presumably at least slightly acquainted with arithmetic and statistics, in addition to rhetoric.

            “I mean you still haven’t found anything in Blackstone’s books of Common Law that gives the Government the right to give the Country to another people, have you?”

            Stop talking nonsense.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:39 am #

            You made a comment in another context about women being reluctant to apologise.

            So let’s see how good you are at it. I don’t want one with any ifs or buts. Just a simple ‘I’m sorry, I misquoted the statistics for effect’ will do nicely, without the trimmings.

            You owe me another one as well. You said on a previous thread:

            “Likewise, she thinks Muslimas should be able to cover their faces all the time – even for ID photos.”

            This is stupid, and desperately so, even for you. K-Dog already called you out on your totally unjustified assertion, but the apology is owed to me. I’m waiting…

            You don’t know anything about my views on Muslim women’s wear. Having lived and worked for several years in France, I have experience of differing views on the matter and mine are quite nuanced. But your statement above remains utterly stupid. Even in Muslim countries, women’s ID photos show their face. But you knew that, because it’s blindingly obvious that their wouldn’t be any point otherwise.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:40 am #

            “The future is Islamic as you well know and celebrate. Stop lying.”

            Another one requiring an apology.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:55 am #

            Now here’s another of your silly assertions. I don’t require an apology for this one but it really does require a response to its silliness. I answered it last night but you may not have seen it on the other thread, so I will repeat it roughly here.

            Your quote:

            “Offhand I would have said she doesn’t get around much,
            but I think she said she doesn’t have a car.”

            Now, I realise that many Americans can’t move without a car, but you really need to get your head around the fact that in other places people are not thus handicapped. Freedom from car ownership brings the benefit of actually mixing with your community and other communities you visit.

            Perhaps your level of logic requires you to think that people who use public transport most of the time see less than people travelling in their own little hermetically sealed bubble. A little thought would tell you this is nonsense.

            I can get from my home to anywhere in Europe by train. When I visited your country I had to take a plane like everyone else. (As I also did when I visited a couple of Muslim countries, incidentally, including Syria). When I really need a car, which is rarely, I hire one.

            I choose not to keep a car because I prefer not to increase my CO2 footprint any further than I need to. And I really don’t see why a rational person would keep an expensive-to-maintain hunk of steel parked on the street when there’s a bus stop 60 seconds’ walk from their front door or they can walk to the centre of their city, where it’s difficult to park, in 25 minutes.

            My husband doesn’t keep a car either – entirely through choice. He’s rational too. And male.

            We even have taxis in our neck of the woods, because it’s a pretty civilised neck of the woods.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 11:59 am #

            Apologies for the typo ‘their’ instead of ‘there’ above.

          • GreenAlba December 27, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

            PS regarding car ownership, there are two cars in my street, some 20 yards from my home, which I can hire any time by the hour because I’m a member of the City Car Club. I rarely need them.

            Those two cars probably keep 100 notional private cars from clogging up our city even more than it’s already clogged up. And I can hire one online or by phone anywhere else in the city or in any other city that has a branch of the same car club. So that’s a whole lot of unnecessary private cars kept off the road and more parking spaces for the incurably car-dependent.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 27, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

            GreenAlba: Your efforts to discipline Janos back toward some kind of sanity are laudable. Let’s just say I’m pessimistic about the outcome.

            There’s a quote attributed to Daniel Patrick Moynihan: “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” Janos is the kind of person who hears a thing like that and responds, “Oh yeah? Hold my beer.” The dedicated bigot is playing by completely different rules. In his world, his prejudices loom far larger than mere events in actual time and space, no matter how readily verified.

          • Allamadness December 27, 2017 at 3:19 pm #

            If the Wiki statistics are believable, (and as Wikipedia is part of a globalist driven corporation, I doubt their accuracy in comparison to what is a moving target), then why is it that minority representation in the British media exposure is so skewed in the minorities favour?
            Uncontrolled mass immigration has specifically impacted on certain small geograhical areas here in the UK and on certain communities.You should have an awareness of that, because you are on a site that has “Clusterfuck” as its hook.
            An example of where your argument falls short would be if I were to quote average land mass divided by total dwellings in the USA. How much land would each house have? The average would simply tell you nothing about any local conditions.
            Quoting average statistics is irrelevant to the experiences of the individual. I trained in statistical analysis, so I do have some knowledge about how easy it is to present average results in favour of an opinion.
            An ounce of experience is worth more than a pound of theory and my experience with my home town (which I will not name because I still have left some nostalgic affection for it), is that it is now 48% Islamic and increasing. That is a fact. Tell your statistics to an isolated, indigenous resident of a street, where they are now an old rarity. Ask them how they feel about their situation, the ones that earlier had no wings for white flight. The problem with the Islamic community is that they are, by their own rigours, unable to fully integrate into the indigenous cultures that they occupy. A live example of that is the Islamic Cultural Centre which is close to where I rent out an apartment. I walk past the centre regularly and can attest to the fact that not once have the many worshippers given me any acknowledgement of any kind, despite my efforts to make contact. Next time you skate over some one’s concerns, you may want to be a little less dismissive. Your attitude is unfortunately that of the lefties and politicians here. They see the fly on my wall at a thousand yards, but they fail to see the elephant in their room.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 28, 2017 at 2:33 am #

            Thank you for your correction! For the first time I got you to reveal, in your own words and without realizing it, the magnitude of the Muslim threat. It’s like what a brother did to Laurel Southern, an alt-lite chick. He accused her of dating Muslims. She bristled and ON TWITTER – corrected him saying, dating a half Irish, half Black Englishman is not the same as dating a Muslim. Outed and destroyed (in terms of making money by begging from us) by her own hand.

            London is now Londonistan. The Capital! Yet still you slumber….

          • Janos Skorenzy December 28, 2017 at 2:39 am #

            Thanks Allam, for trying to talk some sense into this bird. I fear it’s hopeless, such is her arrogance and Leftist privilege.

            I think it’s worse than you believe. I’ve seen videos where Muslim Leaders say they have no intention of assimilating. They never did. They are colonists, intent on assimilating us. The hijrah (migration) goes hand in hand with the Jihad. Already secret weapon shipments to Europe have been intercepted.

  4. daytrip December 25, 2017 at 9:35 am #

    Funny, I just read (Hegel or Schopenhauer?) that if you adhere to Christianity because you find it reasonal and/or rational, you’ve missed the point. Perhaps, it isn’t to be taken literally, Jim. Not telling you anything you don’t already know. Joseph Campbell says the same thing. Myths (and I hesitate to call religions mere myths) are metaphors (J. Campbell), and not to be taken too literally. But, they give a way to understand the world. JC (Big Joe) stated over and over that the lack of a working mythology in today’s society is why we have become so rudderless. Now you can take that to the bank.

    • Ol' Scratch December 25, 2017 at 10:04 am #

      Thanks daytrip. To my mind as well, Campbell had it exactly right. I think Greer made comments to the that effect as well, that as societies grew old and past their expiration dates, their founding myths gradually became entrenched as “facts”, as the people could no longer appreciate them on the subliminal level they were originally intended to speak to. Christianity has long been at that stage, a virtual hero cult of personality, and I expect we’ll be seeing comments here shortly to the effect that that idea is utter bullshit, and that the literal truth of the Holy Bible is incontrovertible and eternal, forever and ever Amen! To each his own I guess. Everyone is searching for meaning and truth somewhere these days, in a land where the gospel truth is either everywhere or nowhere, depending on who you ask. The only founding myth remaining these days is exceptionalism of a myriad various stripes; which, given our current circumstances, is entirely rational as well.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 25, 2017 at 4:08 pm #

        Myths are things that never were but always are. On that level, Christianity is as real as a short skirt riding high on a nice round feminine rump and as rational as a quadratic equation.

        God became Man that Man might become God.

        • K-Dog December 25, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

          as real as a short skirt riding high on a nice round feminine rump and as rational as a quadratic equation.

          I liked that ! Everything but last four words. There you blew it.

          • K-Dog December 25, 2017 at 5:44 pm #

            Clarification:

            ‘that Man might become God.

            Five words.

        • messianicdruid December 25, 2017 at 6:30 pm #

          The Kingdom of God is a form of government, not a religion, nor a myth. We are being allowed to try everything we can come up with and it has all failed spectacularly.

          It is smorgasbord religion [ “to each his own” ] that has accomplished this. Taking a little here and a little there from every carnal or demon-inspired concoction has created chaos and oppression.

          “ A coherent consensus eludes us.” – because “ ‘we’ will not have this man to rule over us.”

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