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The New York Times almost wet its panties breaking the pre-dawn news that the president has tested positive for coronavirus. By the end of day, Democrats across the land — or, at least, up and down the east and west coasts — will be gathering unto Santeria shrines, lighting MAGA hats on fire, sacrificing chickens, drawing Wiccan pentangles in the moonlight, and entreating all the other unseen powers of Providence to rapture Mr. Trump into everlasting oblivion somewhere beyond the crab nebula.

The Judeo-Christian God of our fathers must have a special animus for the Golden Golem of Greatness. He / She / It / or They have heaped more tribulation on Mr. Trump than on the biblical Job of Uz, anguishing in Yahweh’s holy whirlwind. RussiaGate, VeryFinePeopleGate, UkraineGate, BoltonGate, now this! It typically takes about four days for Covid-19 symptoms to present, so early next week sometime the world will know if the bug made the president sick or if he shook it off like just another impeachment effort. The ordeal will also be an interesting test of the hydroxychloroquine + zinc regimen Mr. Trump says he’s been on.

The joyful hysteria in the mainstream news is so boisterous this morning that The Times hasn’t even played its obvious next card, which, I guarantee you, will be an effort to postpone the hearings over SCOTUS nominee Amy Coney Barrett on account of coronavirus being on-the-loose among government officials. I’m pretty sure that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will keep a firm hand on the tiller of that ship — even if the darn proceeding has to go full Zoom meeting, they will git’er done (as we say in Deplorable Land).

If the virus doesn’t knock Mr. Trump on his ass, I imagine we’ll be seeing quite a lot of him campaigning by video in quarantine, old game-show performer that he is. I wouldn’t even rule out some updated Oval Office versions of The Apprentice, with the president taking the opportunity to dismiss a few of the seditionists still lurking in government. Gina Haspel, you’re fired! Christopher Wray, you’re fired! Michael Horowitz, take a hike! General Mark Milley, you’re busted to corporal! Remember, the old Chinese word for crisis, weiji, means a combo of danger and opportunity.

Of course, there are small-but-real odds that the disease could make Mr. Trump very ill, or even launch him up to that great boardroom in the sky. What then? Does Veep Mike Pence carry on in his place? Or do the Trump forces in the GOP bring in Rick Grenell or Johnny Ratcliffe as an emergency candidate for president? Just as in the case of mass mail-in voting, this is a scenario the country hasn’t run before.

Technically, Mr. Trump’s two-week quarantine will be over by October 15, just in the nick of time for the second debate with Joe Biden. But Ol’ White Joe is sure to demur on that meet-up for reasons of virus exposure risk — though his peeps seemed less than eager for Round Two even before last night’s announcement of the president’s positive test.  If that happens, and the president comes through his infection in good shape, then Mr. Biden will be seen as a weakling, which, technically, he is on cognitive grounds, apart from his inherent character deformities.

The focus in days ahead surely will be on Mr. Trump’s medical condition, but there’s plenty more action in the offing as October rolls out. There’s the aforementioned Amy Coney Barrett SCOTUS business, there are new rumblings out of John Durham’s office just in the past few days that something consequential may be up there, and there is the stalemate on a coronavirus relief bill in Congress.

The latter matter hints at the catastrophe lurking in the background of the election: the stupendous mass bankruptcy of unemployed or laid-off middle-class people whose rent and mortgage payment holidays will eventually run out, not to mention car payments and all the other overdue, usual, rotating bills each household must pay to stay above water. After half a year of lockdowns, millions are on the brink of financial ruin.

Of all the things that have made Americans anxious and hysterical this year, this horror of middle-class financial ruin has not quite expressed itself overtly in the public arena — at least, not in the streets. For sure, the Antifas and BLM mobs have been active looting, burning, and smashing things up, but many of these are unemployables, and the ones burdened with college debt may be counting on Democratic Party promises of a jubilee on that.

The foundering middle-class may be people most sympathetic to Trump and Trumpism. You can’t sell them on the identity politics nonsense that has become the Dems’ stock-in-trade. Laid-off airline pilots, hair stylists, and insurance adjusters are probably not interested in critical race theory, gender dysphoria, re-imagining law enforcement, able-ism, and the travails of the “neuro-diverse” (the latest term-of-art for the mentally ill). They may also catch a whiff of yet deeper economic calamity in the Democrats’ relish for more lockdowns, and even in the promised “universal basic income” schemes that would pay the able-bodied to not work. The question for this large group is how many will swap their liberty for the very sketchy and conditional security of a Woke nanny state that requires strict obedience to whatever crazy crusade it thinks up next?

There’s your true friction point in the current disposition of things. People used to being busy, productive, and independent may feel a mighty resentment about becoming that kind of society, and they may fight over it. At least they’ll turn out to vote on it. Maybe they’ll do both.


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347 Responses to “Caution: Low-flying Black Swans” Subscribe

  1. RB October 2, 2020 at 10:06 am #

    The Black Swans are a’flyin.

    • RB October 2, 2020 at 10:08 am #

      Are a’flyin in formation. Bombs away. Oh, that’s bird poop.

    • elysianfield October 2, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

      “The Black Swans are a’flyin.”

      …And can the black schwanz be far behind?

    • VictoriusTitus October 4, 2020 at 7:15 pm #

      It’s embarrassing that I ever read this blog. It started as a commentary about new urbanism and devolved into whackadoddle-do. Granted, Most of America has been driven insane now but I thought I’d check in to see if JHK got his bearings and some kind of gravity towards decency would take hold. Nope. Apparently the cardinal sin of being told by a university once that he was crazy was enough to go buy his first case of koolaid.

      It’s sad because I enjoyed the out of left field analysis. Now it’s some kind of conspiracy obsessed congestion of the brain which makes you think any Democrat, including the most center-left middle of the road sleepy Joe is somehow some kind of racial compared with this international embarrassment. After years of reading regularly for the biting architectural commentary I totally give up.

      Good luck to JHK and his 98% angry white male audience.

      • Q. Shtik October 4, 2020 at 7:48 pm #

        In general (and Vic T is a perfect example) people cannot tolerate reading something that does not confirm their own biases.

  2. Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 10:20 am #

    Dunno how many here are familiar with this channel, but Pockets of the Future over on YT has done a great run-down on Tuesday’s debate, including many hilarious Biden gaffes that went unnoticed due to the flow/nature of the format.

    Some real gems in there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Vr4cK-asU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoG02VxL-Ts

    • bluedog October 2, 2020 at 8:20 pm #

      Lol anyone who wasted any time watching the debate must be short on entertainment,two junk yard dogs seeing who can make the biggest ass of himself,and this is the best America can do…we are doomed.doomed I tell you when the people are so dumbed down that they think that was productive, where was health care education wages for the working class,oh I forget thats not important.111

      • benr October 3, 2020 at 8:48 am #

        Well America is pretty resilient.
        Want Proof?
        We survived eight years of GWBush.
        Want even better proof?
        We survived eight years of Obama and his attempted over throw of his immediate predecessor.
        W e will survive four more of Trump.

        What will destroy our country is four years of Biden and Democrat in control of both houses and packing the Supreme court.
        Or the reverse complete Republican control which would be a lot slower decline.

  3. Vadrosaul October 2, 2020 at 10:22 am #

    If DJT shrugs off the vid, the agitprop lemmings will claim he’s downplaying its severity. If it wallops him, they’ll claim it as proof he downplayed the severity.

    Did anyone else see the disgusting display from John Roberts to Kayleigh McEnany over their boogeyman “white supremacy”?

    • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 10:33 am #

      Just another indication of the Left drift at Fox as the election draws near. The evening trio are on thin ice right now, IMHO.

      F Fanatics

      O Opposing

      X Xenophobia, racism, conservatism

      • shotho October 2, 2020 at 4:15 pm #

        OAN and Newsmax are suitable alternatives, even though it’s probably only a matter of time before they go over to the dark side.

    • benr October 2, 2020 at 11:01 am #

      I actually look for this boogeyman and as Trump said the only ones acting out are leftist and anarchists.

      Please tell me where groups like the proud boys have done anything wrong.
      Why is it ok to fly black power bullshit or brown pride bullshit but not white pride bullshit?
      This utter insanity of Democrat led racial and gender bending politics is destroying this country.
      I see one more commercial showing stupid white people but insert some other ethnic make up telling whitey why they are dumb im going to throw my high ball cup through it.

      • feralandroid October 2, 2020 at 11:56 am #

        You still watch commercials?

        • benr October 2, 2020 at 1:07 pm #

          I usually don’t pay much attention but they are everywhere.
          Hulu, youtube, siriusxm…you need to pay more to avoid them.

      • Sredni Vashtar October 2, 2020 at 1:47 pm #

        Nobody really wants to get into – not even Trump or Tucker. Thus they shoot an arrow or drop a hint and then run as fast as they can.

        I can assure you that the Proud Boys are just MARS – or what Sam Francis hoped to see before he died but didn’t – Middle American Radicals. But they aren’t even as radical as he was, eschewing all racial pride. In fact their leaders are mostly non-White from what I can tell. Just guys willing to take on the Leftist street thugs in the name Baseball and Apple Pie. They would be willing to say what you said though, if b pride is good, why not yt pride?

      • Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

        They call Proud Boys racist in the same way they call gay Asians like Andy Ngo “white supremacists.”

        It lowers your IQ to even mull it over.

      • YourEmotionsAreNotReality October 3, 2020 at 7:08 am #

        “Please tell me where groups like the proud boys have done anything wrong.”

        While I wouldn’t call the Proud Boys white nationalists (although their founder has been connected to them), when you ask a question like this, why not do your own research first?

        In the years since 9-11, white supremacist terrorists have killed almost 3 times as many Americans on our soil as Islamic terrorists.

        Now, do me a favor, how many murders is antifa responsible for?

        Keep your hurt feelings out of it and do some real research.

        • benr October 4, 2020 at 9:02 am #

          I have and you’re a liar.
          Or you have severe reading comprehension deficient.
          So which is it?
          White supremacist’s have not murdered anywhere near 3,000 Americans much less 9,000 plus all the Americans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
          Your emotions are not reality should be said facing a mirror.

  4. Mountain gal October 2, 2020 at 10:23 am #

    Yep, the commenters on the NYT website were for the most part, gloating and wishing the president ill. Sad. As much as I dislike the Dems, I wouldn’t wish ill health on any of them. And yes, I’m sure the Dems will try to use Covid as an excuse for why the Supreme court confirmation hearings can’t be held now.

    I do wish Nicki Haley would run for President as a Republican; she’d be awesome!

    • Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 10:33 am #

      Nothing will happen. No worries.

    • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 10:35 am #

      If Trump wins, Nicki Haley needs to be way up in the administration to showcase her for president. Pence?

      • Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 5:30 pm #

        Haley is awful. Another neocon.

    • Sredni Vashtar October 2, 2020 at 1:49 pm #

      She’s a viper in the bosom of the right wing breast, getting to play both sides because she’s non-White. She said that because Black children suffer, White children are going to have to suffer too. A monster. Another power crazed Indian who will say anything to advance. A younger Kamala Harris.

      • hmuller October 2, 2020 at 4:04 pm #

        Nicki Haley has to be about the palest person to ever emerge from the Indian subcontinent. Maybe someone switched babies shortly after birth – like in “THE OMEN – Part One.”

    • sanspeur October 2, 2020 at 2:37 pm #

      Nicki Haley is about as NEOCON as you can get. Wishing her success is asking for more stupid wars in the ME. She is a very nice looking John Bolton.

      If you listened to the BS she spewed about Russia at the UN about his “Land Grab” of Crimea, you would understand.

      For those that don’t know it, Putin had all his nukes on the ready, if we touched a Russian Base that has a history longer than our Constitution.

    • bluedog October 2, 2020 at 8:31 pm #

      Lol is this the same Nicki Haley who met with Trump after the election and in an interview said Trump offered her any job she wanted,even Sec, of State.she said she turned it down saying she didn’t think she was qualified,then he offered her the job as spokes person at the UN and she replied and said “what do they do”.Then they gave her the boot and she wound up on the board of Boeing with all her expertise on building planes.she got the boot there and now I presume is floating some where around the swamp looking for another good gig….

    • YourEmotionsAreNotReality October 3, 2020 at 7:09 am #

      ‘Yep, the commenters on the NYT website were for the most part, gloating and wishing the president ill’

      And when Hillary was ill during the 2016 campaign, plenty of comments were gleeful about her possibly being seriously ill

      And 100,00s of Trump supporters believe in the insane Q-Anon crap, and are eagerly awaiting the military execution of people they disagree with.

      • benr October 3, 2020 at 8:56 am #

        No we are awaiting Justice for an attempted coup, you know Treason.
        The rest of your post is mildly correct.
        I would digress and say not gleeful of Hillary being sick just that she was not fit to be President.

        I was however gleeful when Edward Kennedy died, justice long denied the parents of Mary Joe Kopechne.
        Threw a party in fact.
        Was also happy when lower the age of consent to 12 Ruth Ginsberg croaked.
        Waiting for Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Chuck Schumer to descend to hell as well.
        All the people named have done serious damage to this nation.

        • beantownbill. October 3, 2020 at 11:57 am #

          Is there such a thing as ultimate retribution? I dunno. Answering that seems to be above my pay grade.

          At the time, 1969, I was very pissed about that – waiting for retribution. Kennedy lived a very well-to-do, additional 45 years or so. Yes, he did have tragedy in his life, but it doesn’t feel like he experienced cosmic payback.

          The manly thing to have done was to admit he asked irresponsibly and accept whatever punishment would be meted out. He didn’t, and I always despised him for it. He was the least of the Kennedy brothers.

          The accident happened the next year after the 1968 presidential electon. I had lost a lot of faith in politics after that, but I was salvageable. When Kennedy got away with murder, that was the final straw for me concerning government. I haven’t voted since then, and I intend to not do so for the rest of my life, unless a candidate comes along I can believe in. I seriously doubt that will happen because the system is so rotten.

  5. neurodoc October 2, 2020 at 10:25 am #

    Talking heads on fox early this morning were exhibiting thankfulness that no other admin people had tested positive e.g. the Pences. Unfortunately, the best studies show that with pre-symptom people, the false negative rate is ~48%; after symptoms appear, e.g. fever, the false negative rate drops to 30% or thereabout. Thus, negatives don’t mean a thing (i.e. 50/50; flip a coin), so this thing could get BIG!!!! Or BIGLY!
    🙂

    Back to work.
    ND

    • Northern Neck October 2, 2020 at 11:15 am #

      “youge”

      Pray for his speedy recovery, and ours.

  6. RaymondR October 2, 2020 at 10:33 am #

    To those wishing ill upon Pres. Trump: what follows him will be worse, also, karma is a bitch

    • hmuller October 2, 2020 at 10:38 am #

      Now I’m sorry Trump didn’t shake Biden’s hand at the debate. In fact I wish he had kissed the old grifter.

      • feralandroid October 2, 2020 at 11:58 am #

        I think Trump was yelling loud enough to spray the virus 20 feet. Maybe even Wallace will test positive now.

        • hmuller October 2, 2020 at 4:14 pm #

          Chris Wallace needs some claim to fame to top his legendary father, Mike. “Killed by the viri spewed from a President” would make for an impressive headstone.

  7. sprawlcapital October 2, 2020 at 10:37 am #

    Regarding the president’s testing positive, if he remains asymptomatic, this would illustrate the error of counting every positive test as a “case” of covid.

    • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 10:48 am #

      He is already reported to be mildly symptomatic.

      • sprawlcapital October 2, 2020 at 11:08 am #

        But we know that the media report every positive test as a “case”. They never follow up and report how many of those with positive tests ever show symptoms of the disease. How can there be a case of a disease with no symptoms? (This is not a rhetorical question, John. I sincerely would like to know about this.)

        • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 11:47 am #

          Asymptomatic cases have been noticed, up to 40%, since the beginning.

          A huge contact study in India, just published saying that only 8% of the folks with the crud are spreading it to 60% of the new cases.
          Kids spread it easily and are unlikely to show symptoms. The main spreaders are young adults, 20 to 45. Not a surprise. The researchers found out that age group is out and about much more than others.

          People’s ability to fight off the crud seems to be proportional to the dose of virus they get when infected. The more virus, the more change of being a new case, and heavy doses lead to more serious cases and death. Epidemiology has known this for a long time. The number of organisms transferred determines the intensity of the run of the disease.

          This is one sneaky SOB. It pays to be young!

      • abbybwood October 2, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

        And Melania is positive too.

        Hope Barron is okay.

        Anyone wishing Trump to become seriously ill or to die from Covid is un-American.

        Trump said many truths at the debate but one of the best was: “I was never given a peaceful transition to power! I was spied on prior to the election and after and then there was the Russiagate hoax, Ukrainegate, phony impeachment and on and on” (paraphrasing).

        I wish everyone testing positive for Covid 19 a speedy and smooth return to health, even the evil Democrat scum who wish Trump ill.

  8. teddyboy46 October 2, 2020 at 10:39 am #

    I know people who are doing their happy dance right now about Trump and Melania testing positive for covid 19 . These are people that live very well and enjoy all the comforts and amusements of upper middle class life. Little do they know that if their wish is fulfilled they will get the Communism they are pushing for and find themselves the bad guys and girls. They will be forced to watch as they are reduced to the level of the people they claim to care about so much. That should be interesting to watch.

    • Raindogs October 2, 2020 at 10:46 am #

      Wow! All that would happen with a 4 year Biden stint, huh?

      You’re about as histrionic as a 13 year old girl.

      • benr October 2, 2020 at 11:04 am #

        Actually it is a possibility.

        Since you have no rational understanding of anything I suggest you look at how fast Germany went fascist or Russian went Bolshevik.
        I promise the data is there and since it happened there it really can happen here.

      • vengeur October 2, 2020 at 11:05 am #

        Biden is the Democrats version of George Bush Jr., a pliable, malleable, admiration loving puppet .

        • benr October 2, 2020 at 11:07 am #

          Except GWBush was likeable Biden not so much.
          The only similarity is that Biden has always been dumb as a brick.

          • vengeur October 2, 2020 at 11:14 am #

            Yes I’d give the edge to Biden. He’s smart enough to know he’s a puppet. George Bush Jr is too dumb to ever figure it out.

      • Urinthe Village October 2, 2020 at 11:53 am #

        Actually, the timeline in Germany was as follows:

        January 30, 1933 – Hitler named Chancellor, by entirely legal means.
        February 27 – Reicshtag fire.
        February 28- Civil liberties suspended by President Hindenburg
        March 23 – The Enabling Act was passed by the German Parliament, giving Hitler dictatorial powers.

        So a democracy turned into a dictatorship in less than 3 months.

        Read some history, dog.

      • Sredni Vashtar October 2, 2020 at 1:53 pm #

        It doesn’t take long to get hungry, right? Or get cold if you don’t have heat, right? Or become homeless if you can’t pay rent, right? So what was your point again? Leftists use to know these things and campaign on them before they became anti-White racists. Care to retract?

        • benr October 3, 2020 at 8:58 am #

          Three weeks without food and people start thinking about eating each other.

    • draupnir October 2, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

      They may find themselves to be among the first up against the wall when the revolution comes. Intelligentsia and the successful are not highly admired among Communists. Those unable to practice critical thought are much preferred.

  9. shox October 2, 2020 at 10:41 am #

    Great article! As always, full of wit and humor. And the concluding paragraphs are right on. Hopefully “social justice,” after wasting an inordinate amount of people’s time for all these last few years, will die a natural death once the country falls again upon protracted economic hardships. As Ted Kaczynski pointed out in his “Industrial Society and its Future,” leftism is a symptom of life having become too easy, of people being denied the chance to go through difficult obstacles and overcome them. Or as Joe Rogan remarked in a video form years ago, “when it’s too easy to survive, people start attacking each other for nonsense.” Well fate has finally answered their secret wish. I hope the wokesters are blessed with hardships in full measure!! It will give them a chance to understand how much they have taken for granted.

    • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 10:51 am #

      Well said.

      Those who choose security over liberty, deserve neither one.

      Ben Franklin

  10. JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 10:48 am #

    Latest word is that the President is mildly symptomatic.

    If this is the end of the “let ‘er rip” attitude about the crud, that is a good thing. This crud spreads like wildfire without mitigation.

    If mitigation had been practiced by people in general instead of the idiocies we have witnessed, everyone would be respecting social distancing and yes, masking where appropriate. The workplace would be open, people would be respecting each other’s personal space, and the crud would probably be on a severe downtrend.

    Instead, the stupidification of the USA has made it a target for this disease.

    “Let ‘er rip” will overwhelm the US ability to handle the emergency.

    • benr October 2, 2020 at 11:06 am #

      I say let her rip but keep your old and sick people locked up.
      This thing is not going away so eventually EVERYONE is going to get a kiss with the Chinese lab bug.
      Mine as well get it over with and move on.

      • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

        It will happen, 90% of folks are so far uninflected.

        Examine two extremes And a middle road..

        Biden’s lockdown. Does not solve a thing. After the shutdown, the residual sources of the disease just restarts. In the meantime, the country self destructs. Not a good choice. Think about the politics of this. Destroy the small business economy, millions of folks become more dependent on the government, a major long term Democratic goal.

        Total mitigation. A continued low new case creation allowing the economy to run at half speed. Opening up fully surges the spread, so a partial flat curve is desired. Mitigation is middle of the road, aimed at opening up as much of the economy as possible.

        Let ‘er rip. What would happen if we opened the gates? New York, New Jersey. It will overwhelm the health care industry. What effect will that have on the mortality rate if more people are forced to stay at home?

        The politics of this situation will make the decision. In other words, the decision will be made by blithering idiots on both sides. What a nice warm fuzzy feeling that gives me.

        • benr October 2, 2020 at 12:42 pm #

          Here is the crux, the elite ala Georgia guide stone believers are telegraphing the desire to get rid of many people called useless eaters.
          It won’t be through mass murder per se more of increasing amounts of people unable to have babies we already are seeing fertility rates plummeting.
          How many women have been conned into not having children but to pursue a career instead until it becomes to late or they have to spend a fortune to get a test tube baby.

        • draupnir October 2, 2020 at 2:52 pm #

          JohnAZ: Last week I was looking for information on death rates in the US for 2019 and I couldn’t easily find that information. On actuarial tables I found that the death rate for the US in 2019 was 8.782 per 1,000, and has been rising steadily since 2008. In 2018 it was 8.685. In 2020 so for, the death rate has been 8.880, not significantly against the trend.

          https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate

      • farmgal October 2, 2020 at 8:48 pm #

        I’m 67 and hubby is 70. No underlying health issues. We both had it in ear!y August. Worst part was headaches and fatigue, some mild fever. Two weeks in and voila all gone. Worse than a cold not as bad as a flu. If you’re remotely healthy you’re fine. Quit cowering.

        • YourEmotionsAreNotReality October 3, 2020 at 7:04 am #

          farmgal, you realize that’s not a very intelligent way of viewing a disease? Just because YOU were ok, doesn’t mean others will be. Not to mention long-term effects which are still of some potential concern.

          But what am I saying, this place is a swamp of fallacious ‘reasoning’. lol

          • farmgal October 3, 2020 at 9:00 am #

            Are you too obtuse to pick up on my qualifiers?

    • cbeard October 2, 2020 at 11:35 am #

      This crud spreads like wildfire without mitigation. Bullshit, It is no more contagious than any other flu or virus. Just luck of the draw. I may be infected tomorrow, but in the past couple of months I have traveled coast to coast. I do not wear a mask unless absolutely forced to. At first I masked up to humor some folks, and I still don a mask around some old friends who have other health issues and are scared of the virus. The stupidest thing the USA did was to shut down the economy over this. I have a few friends that have contracted the virus and came through with flying colors. Some at the age of 65 or so and some in their 30’s. I personally don’t know anyone who died from covid. It hasn’t spread like wildfire in my community. Here, it has mostly been a problem for more elderly people, (80 yrs. and up). A local nursing home had the most deaths, but there too, some residents who were stricken recovered surprisingly fast.

      • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 12:09 pm #

        You do not wear a mask. Good for you. How your area does depends on how many others do not heed your advice and protect themselves and others from the crud. You ever think that the abundance of folks mitigating causes good results. Conversely, less mitigation causes surges.

        Another item I wish that would be acknowledged and published. What is the effect of mitigation on the incidence of the flu and colds? I do not think the anti-maskers want to hear this.

        • benr October 2, 2020 at 1:01 pm #

          Masks make the sheep feel protected it comes down to not touching your eyes, nose, ears or putting your fingers in your mouth.
          To many people feel ” safe” as a result of masks and forget that touching your environment as much of a conductor for the spread of virus and bacteria as anything else.

        • Sredni Vashtar October 2, 2020 at 1:57 pm #

          Wow, in other words, you wish retrospectively that we had “masked up” long ago. What a twisted mind.

        • draupnir October 2, 2020 at 1:59 pm #

          You actually believe a cotton mask can protect against a virus? Man, those holes between the threads in the weave are like a superhighway to something so small. It functions more like a security blanket than a protective device.

          • RocketDoc October 3, 2020 at 6:18 pm #

            I wish people would wear a mask at appropriate times i.e. inside, with other people you don’t usually hang out with. I wear a mask every day for all patient contacts as I have done for 35 years. I believe it reduces the viral load from me to my patients and if virus is aerosolized in the ambient air, then it will reduce the amount inhaled by me, my staff, and other patients by some percentage. If a level 1 surgical mask is only 1-2% effective (it says it is 90%) then we would not have been wearing them for the last 35 years. Aerosols are different sizes and the mask will trap some of them–not all. This necessarily reduces the viral dose. This is obvious to me.

            Second point. I returned to work May 4th have seen 12-20 patients a day in my office and we have been fortunate as positive tests in my county of 400,000 have run about 50/day since June 1st. We work 16 inches from our patients’ unmasked faces for 45 minutes. Only 1 person has called me to say they have tested positive. If masks are not “helpful” then dentists should be above the curve with infections. That has not happened yet.

        • Rain Waters October 2, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

          I say bring it on, lemme see for myself.

  11. Being Frank October 2, 2020 at 10:56 am #

    ” People used to being busy, productive, and independent”

    Could someone round here please remind me just how many energy slaves the average American is totally dependent on? The Land of the Free? Oh no, the land of the completely deluded.

    Even so, there are quite a few people who don’t want to be told what to think, pushed around, or coerced, and they are justified in feeling that way. — JHK Admin

    • beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 12:12 pm #

      No one is free. Free is like being pregnant. You’re pregnant or not pregnant; you can’t be mostly pregnant. You are free or not free – period.

      Anyone living in a given society must conform to its rules or suffer the consequences. We pay taxes, which means we’re forced to surrender part of our income to the governments, local, state and federal. If I have no school-age children, I must pay for others’ kids’ education; I cannot purchase any weapon I want; I need permission to drive a car; if I have a medical emergency, at the time of treatment I can’t find out how much it will cost me, I have to wait for the bill; I can’t post whatever I want on Twitter and Facebook without content being screened for acceptability; and I must follow thousands upon thousands of obscure laws, rules and regulations I have no idea that exist.

      I could go on and on, but these ought to be enough examples for anyone to realize we are not free. If you want to post more examples, feel free to do so.

      • Sredni Vashtar October 2, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

        And you accept all of this? The not being able to post what you want? The not being informed of the price of treatment?

        Then you really are a slave…..

        You’re not discriminating between the existential and the incidental; the what must be and always is and the what doesn’t have to be.

        You are right that very few examine the nature of freedom, particularly in America. But you have a lot more looking to do as well. Can we posit degrees of freedom as a working hypothesis? And that a very capable and responsible person (like yourself perhaps) is far more free than the opposite type because he works with the Laws of Nature not against them? And knows and works within the Laws of the State as well? Perhaps trying to change the bad ones?

        • hmuller October 2, 2020 at 5:55 pm #

          I disagree with beantownbill that freedom is all or nothing. I see it as a meter. But I agree with him that in this time and place we are getting ever closer to pinning the meter at the “unfree” end of the gauge. I assume he thinks that’s a bad thing as do I.

        • beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 6:19 pm #

          I wrote what I did about freedom because I am concerned that people think that just because they live in America they have all the freedom they’ll ever need. Americans don’t look at trends, apparently, they only think about what is going on now, not about the future. Any thinking person can see our freedoms are gradually and relentlessly being taken away from us.

      • michael October 2, 2020 at 7:33 pm #

        You are not only robbed of your freedom by coercion. More efficiently you are enslaved by manipulation. commercials, propaganda and “education”. There is no way out of a prison you don’t even know you are in.

        • swazimoto October 2, 2020 at 9:59 pm #

          Ha ha!! Right on, michael!!!

      • Mountain gal October 3, 2020 at 8:16 am #

        Americans seem to be willing(mostly) to trade their freedom for the illusion of safety.

        • beantownbill. October 3, 2020 at 11:30 am #

          That is indeed what has happened, but I think Americans aren’t aware they’re doing that. They are awareness-deprived. As a test, ask anyone if they are willing to trade freedom for safety, and I bet they’d emphatically say no.

      • islander800 October 4, 2020 at 7:48 pm #

        I’m afraid that on this site, you’re pissing into the wind.

        For what it’s worth, I completely agree with you.

        Unfortunately, many many Americans live in a world a self-delusion instead of a real-world complex society where citizens have a RESPONSIBILTY to act in a manner that does not negatively affect other citizens, for the common good. Instead, they think they have a God-given right to behave like “sovereign citizens” of their own special little desert islands. Any talk of having a speck of consideration and empathy for others is considered “communism”. Like single-payer health care, as in every other civiiized nation on earth, is “communism”. To quote their God (and I do hope he gets well), “so sad”.

        And frankly, the insane scribblings of blogs like Jim’s here doesn’t help. I used to respect the man for his writings on urban geography. Sadly, he’s descended into his own universe of bat-shit craziness. But I still visit from time to time to see how far he’s gone this time….

  12. daytrip October 2, 2020 at 11:07 am #

    Jim somewhat identifying as a deplorable. Git’in ‘er done! How long before we have a real choice in politics? How long before they take away our money printing press? It won’t matter which party is in the White House at that point.

    • Sredni Vashtar October 2, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

      Have they already started with the coin shortage?

  13. Urinthe Village October 2, 2020 at 11:33 am #

    I’m worried that Trump’s positive Covid test will provide the opportunity for the Deep Staters/CIA/Swamp creatures to slip some hemlock or polonium into his food as the final solution they’ve been hoping for. I hope he has a food taster.

    • beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

      I hear that polonium steaks are very tasty and provide a lot of protein. See, it’s not all bad.

  14. Hands4u October 2, 2020 at 11:58 am #

    “And now the Democrats are politicising the Corona Virus”. “And this is their New Hoax; and we will keep those from entering our country. We have no choice we have no choice… I also created a White House Virus Task force, it’s a big thing, a big thing and so far we have lost nobody in the United States to Corona virus; nobody. It doesn’t mean we won’t, we are totally prepared, so we won’t.” DJT- 2/29/2020

    If Trump truly has COVID-19 then it will be interesting if he floats his “recovery” as a resurrection and sign that God wants him where he’s at.?
    “they want you to gab em by the… (u know what!)”- DJT

    Jim, I really enjoyed the podcast with Charlie Hall; some good reminders about our “stabile move into ongoing instability”.

  15. darrell dullnig October 2, 2020 at 12:16 pm #

    There are apparently a fair representation of otherwise intelligent commentators on this blog who have yet to realize the government has purposefully shut down the economy, using this virus merely as an excuse to do so. The action does not make sense except that it is a tool to reduce this economy to a pile of ruble, somewhat resembling the aftermath of a controlled demolition, such as the infamous buildings in Manhattan on 9/11.

    It is purely a waste of time to continue to discuss the symptoms of a virus that is as much a fake as anything else debated on main stream media. When you find yourself talking about the virus, you have been infected, but it is an infection of the mind.

    • beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 12:40 pm #

      Tell that to the 1+ million people who have died with Covid in their bodies, the 33 million who have it but haven’t died, and the people who are feeling sick and have organ damage months after. Yes, it’s not an extinction level issue, but it’s existence is not a hoax.

      Concerning 9/11, no proof exists that there was a controlled demolition, only hearsay. Anything else is just wild speculative conspiracy theory. Science can explain everything that happened, but this is old news that’s been discussed over and over, and there’s no reason to argue about it now.

      • tlauria October 2, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

        From your post it’s obvious you know nothing of architecture, engineering or construction. There is a slew of evidence and intelligent, educated, experienced opinion that would refute your nonsense regarding 9/11.

        • beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 4:23 pm #

          There’s many, many things I know nothing about, and likewise there’s many, many things I do know. Get on the Skepticalenquirer.com or .org website and look up articles by reputable scientists and/or engineers that totally explain how things happened. I’m afraid you suffer from 9/11 derangement syndrome. BTW, I do know about construction and engineering, I just have a discernible sense of reality.

          • malthuss October 2, 2020 at 11:26 pm #

            a licensed Architect told me planes brought the buildings down.

            But what about building 7?

          • benr October 3, 2020 at 9:00 am #

            Building 7 was damaged at the base from the fall and fire from another building.

      • Sredni Vashtar October 2, 2020 at 2:08 pm #

        One British reporter got her timing wrong and reported Bldg 7 had already fallen even as it stood in the background.

        You are tempermentally averse to Conspiracy Theory. That’s a weakness since the world works via conspiracies. The “conspiracy theory” meme was a conspiracy of the Media Giants, an incredibly successful one that dumbed down America.

        • Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

          I am not big on conspiracies in general, but anyone who believes that those 3 buildings fell due to planes and fires is a certified moron.

          • Rain Waters October 2, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

            Exactly.

          • beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 4:29 pm #

            See my post above to to tlauria. I am many things, but one thing I have 100% certainty of is that I am not a moron, nor am I a certified one. Which psychologists do moronic certification, anyway? You can have your own beliefs, just as I do, but there’s no need to be insulting about it.

          • Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 5:03 pm #

            They aren’t beliefs. One building fell in perfect free fall. The others in near free fall. There is no way a free fall collapse can occur unless all of the supports in said buildings are literally pulverized nearly simultaneously. Each floor that has structural integrity slows the falling mass.

            There are many other facts from the collapse that are also revealing, but the above is the smoking gun.

            A/E has laid this out in excruciating detail. Given that your own post was insulting, I would say you reap what you sow.

        • beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 4:39 pm #

          You can have your conspiracy theories if you like paranoia, but I tend to operate on sound reasoning. Yes, there’s been conspiracies throughout history, but that doesn’t mean every conspiracy theory is valid. So, yes, I am adverse to them generally. Don’t you know that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence?

          • SW October 2, 2020 at 5:49 pm #

            “A conspiracy is nothing but a secret agreement of a number of men for the pursuance of policies which they dare not admit in public.”
            ? Ossip Gabrilowitsch, Sedition

            The quote is misattributed to Mark Twain. I have no opinion about the fall of the Twin Towers — planned or attack — but whatever it was, Bush II was not in on it. The look of sheer terror and confusion as he read to a group of preschoolers could not have been faked.

          • SpeedyBB October 3, 2020 at 3:44 am #

            SW, keeping Dubya in the dark about the festive WTC event was an elementary precaution. Would have been interesting however to study Darth Cheney’s reaction, inasmuch as he never cared to fake innocence or surprise.

            Which one of the major network pretty faces blurted out “It looks just like a controlled demolition”? Oops.

            The French, as usual, have their own point of view on the matter.

            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51187970

          • eatabanker October 3, 2020 at 5:51 am #

            “Don’t you know that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence?’

            BTbill, please explain your emphatic claim that any evidence must be extraordinary.

            “If I didn’t believe it I wouldn’t see it”
            -Marshall McLuhan

          • sophia October 3, 2020 at 9:33 am #

            Beantown,

            For three buildings built to withstand fire to go into freefall is an extraordinary claim.
            But your skeptical inquirer site innoculated you against reason by writing sciency sounding articles.

      • hmuller October 2, 2020 at 4:38 pm #

        Science cannot explain building 7 falling into its footprint at free fall speed (like a controlled demolition) after being hit by nothing. You believe some debris fires brought down the building?!

        How about video of owner Larry Silverstein admitting building 7 was a controlled demolition! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq-0JIR38V0 How does a huge 47 story building get wired for a controlled demolition in a few hours while it’s on fire? Or was it wired beforehand?

        Don’t tell me 9-11 has all been explained. I’ve never seen any establishment toady face down an informed “conspiracy theorist” in open debate. Mostly they can’t even present the facts but rely on mockery and questioning someone’s sanity for not believing the official narrative.

        Well, I’ve stopped believing narratives put out by our masters. They are liars; they are monsters. Call me crazy.

        • beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 4:45 pm #

          You aren’t crazy, just probably gullible. Listen, I’m not trying to avoid you, but I’ve posted here 3 times already today about conspiracies, as well as having posted numerous times about them in the past, so I’ve had it for now. Let’s talk about something more current, like the election, Covid or the fact that our civilization stands on very shaky grounds.

          • Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 5:29 pm #

            Our civilization stands on shaky grounds because many give in to obvious lies.

        • hmuller October 2, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

          Gullible? Excuse me. I deal in facts. Admittedly, there are some in the “conspiracy theory community” who will believe anything anyone tells them and require no evidence. They got used to that mindset watching the MSM. And our educational system certainly doesn’t produce sharp, questioning minds able to weight evidence and cut thru the bullshit.

          I’m reminded of the lines from an old song, “Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.” That’s what I see around me all day long, people programmed to believe what the society’s masters want them to believe. So much of which makes no sense, but the hynogogic zombies can only absorb it.

          Maybe life is easier that way. Breaking out of Plato’s cave and seeing a little truth makes one a freak, a danger to the new world order, or labelled “gullible” by those who imagine they grasp all that’s really going on.

      • darrell dullnig October 2, 2020 at 6:25 pm #

        Please notice BTBill, my comments spoke of “otherwise intelligent commentators”

        That does not include yourself, so you can ignore it.

        • malthuss October 2, 2020 at 11:24 pm #

          he is smart?
          are you so smart?

    • cbeard October 2, 2020 at 10:12 pm #

      Yeah, it’s all a big pile of ruble.

  16. getsome October 2, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

    James Howard: Your final summation of a choice between security or liberty is a somewhat false dichotomy in that one can opt out of this agreed upon societal contract. Gov’t provides a modicum of benefits and the populace obeys the gov’t dictates. When one realizes that all laws, rules and the like are an imaginary construct mutually agreed upon one can, if possessing adequate resources of food, land, water etc, ignore that which you do not agree with.
    On a more somber thread, the rapidly approaching implosion of the financial viability of any city of large population with the concurrent degradation of structures which support the ability to live and function safely is a fait accompli. Too many have the cognitive dissonance associated with normalcy bias and will be swept away when the break done occurs and the implosion will take -my read- less than a week.
    I, as yourself, live almost off grid and as such will do nicely, at least physically. Mentally will be much more of a test of intestinal fortitude
    but past traumas will now hold us in, somewhat, good stead. In addition to practice, an inventory of necessary items would be prudent.

    • benr October 2, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

      Tell that to Cliven Bundy.
      Tell that to Richard L McLaren.
      Tell that to the people of Ruby Ridge or Waco.
      As soon as people decide the “laws ” don’t apply they get corrected.
      The only way this works is to have billions to hire enough lawyers to make government afraid of you.
      Normal people don’t stand a chance.
      By the way this is not a post in support of any of the people above nor against it is just a reality check post.

      • beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 12:41 pm #

        I agree.

      • malthuss October 2, 2020 at 11:01 pm #

        House resolution condemning QAnon.

    • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 2:05 pm #

      Good government provides a modicum of benefits.

      Our government is not a good government, it is a nest of vipers craving power.

  17. beantownbill. October 2, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

    Trump’s diagnosis, which I wouldn’t wish on anyone, possibly offers him a great political advantage: If he recovers with no more than mild symptoms he can say, “See, I told you that Covid was no big deal. I was right; it was just like a cold. Some people feel miserable with cold symptoms, some people just get the sniffles. Nothing to have to mess up your life for. The CDC and the Democrats screwed this all up. Etc., etc.

    If Trump gets very ill, he’ll lose the election.

    • cc rider October 2, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

      Well, my bet is that he, Melania, and Hope Hicks will all do well due to the hydroxychloroquine and zinc treatment. Then he will be able to say, “See, if everyone who tests positive will get on this treatment early it will save lives and we can re-open again. No fear! Let’s get on with it!”

      Oh the Dems and the MSM will have a fit that will make all of their other fits look tame by comparison if this happens.

      • Rain Waters October 2, 2020 at 3:34 pm #

        Trumps odds of survival would be better if he did an open limo rally through downtown Portland should he hyper politicize a speedy “recovery”.

    • tucsonspur October 2, 2020 at 4:23 pm #

      ‘If Trump gets very ill, he’ll lose the election’.

      I agree, Bean. An egotist is okay, but who wants a suicidal one?

  18. xxzzy999 October 2, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

    The Democrat Party has become the (Socialist Identity Party) and promise Progressive fantasies, (The Carrot), i.e. Bernie’s unsustainable Socialist programs to further their evolving Marxist/Maoist ideology (The Stick). Maoist methods (Cancel Culture) are used to erase America’s Customs, Religion, History, and Established Ideas in their strategy to destroy America’s current form of government based on the Founding Father’s Constitutional blueprint. Their ultimate goal is to install a Totalitarian atheistic government that starts out as a form of corrupt and unworkable Socialism. The Left’s “Woke Nanny State” requires strict obedience to whatever crazy crusade they promote.

    America endured 8 years of Obama’s criminal political assault and his failed coup called (RussiaGate) to overthrow President Trump. RussiaGate was a conspiracy to overthrow a sitting president (Impeachment Sham) carried out by a coordinated effort of high-ranking government employees across many agencies, who knew exactly what they were doing.

    Americans are starting to understand how the Obama administration weaponized the DOJ, FBI, CIA and IRS to go after his political opponents, and in doing so, he trampled the Constitution and fueled the violent overthrow of cultural norms. America, in her glorious history, has never experienced anything in politics as corrupt as Obama’s RussiaGate. Nixon’s WaterGate political crimes look like an overdue library book by comparison.

    Read “The Permanent Coup”, by: Lee Smith to fully understand the depth of Obama’s RussiaGate crimes.

    • Northern Neck October 2, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

      Why do you keep pushing this book? Are you the author? Is it not selling well? I read the beginning few pages, it is not prose. I became board and haven’t picked up the book since. The gist that President Obama’s legions in government service conspired in mass to unseat President Trump simply can’t be true. President Trump is his own worst enemy, his behavior and commentary invite severe response. I love the guy, but he is an ass. I watched the debate. It was embarrassing.
      This book implies that former President Obama is leading a secret cabal
      of powerful civil-servants in opposition to the White House. That’s nuts.

      • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

        We will see what Durham has to say.

      • Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

        “POTUS wants to know everything we are doing”

        — Peter Strozck, Coupmeister

        Coooonspiwacy theooorieee!

      • draupnir October 2, 2020 at 4:06 pm #

        There have been other intimations that Obama is still running a parallel, shadow government, using a cabal of deep state bureaucrats, and the MSM still call him President Obama, not former President Obama. They can barely bring themselves to give Trump the title.

      • sophia October 3, 2020 at 9:44 am #

        Northern,

        Nuts? The evidence isn’t even controversial. It’s an unfolding story. Are you unfamiliar with it?

  19. toktomi October 2, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

    @algorithm

    Let’s hope that the numerological apical elite don’t take a fancy to ten-ten-twenty-twenty like they did to nine-eleven. I have laundry that needs doin’.

    |.|. 2020

    X X XX XX

    At any rate, while y’all are waiting for James’ latest dose of Kool Aid to take effect…

    We speak a language, Earth human language with its myriad dialects that has evolved only marginally from the language that was spawned in creatures intellectually equivalent to great apes.

    I am; we are; you are; it is; they are; I was; we were; it was; they were; I [we] have been; you have been; it has been; they have been; I [we, you, it, they] will have been.

    We started with the basics and gouged a rut that defies logic and rational intellect to this day.

    The fantasies and apparitions of “what is”, the illusions of knowledge, and the pervasive notions of “seeing things” are among the perception and language fallacies that insure that we continue to willingly down our doses of Kool Aid.

    But maybe “they” have made a good guess; perhaps, these human animals must be dictated “truth”; H.sapiens may be just too fucking dumb to figure out for themselves, even if broadly educated, that the greatest good for the greatest swath of the Universe is likely the only way that makes any sense, given as it may be that even “they” haven’t figured that out.

    ~toktomi~

    • toktomi October 2, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

      The 10-10-2020 reference is to the planned disappearance of both Congress and the Executive.

  20. cc rider October 2, 2020 at 1:17 pm #

    Of course there’s no doubt that Trump, his wife, and Hope Hicks are all doing the hydroxychloroquine + zinc treatment right now. My bet is that it will be successful in keeping all of them from getting really sick. The woke girls will then be back in the streets with their pussy hats on screaming, “Why! Why! Why!”

    Now, wouldn’t it be something if Biden himself gets the infection and doesn’t do so well because, well, hydroxychloroquine is a “fake treatment” after all.

    Oh man, just when this year couldn’t become more of an ongoing and wild Reality Show!

    • shox October 3, 2020 at 7:31 am #

      To my GREAT, GREAT disappointment, Trump is being given Remdesivir, which almost doesn’t work at all. Nowhere as good as hydroxychloroquine. (Chris Martenson did NUMEROUS videos on it.) I’m not sure if he is also taking HCQ and Zinc. The news about Remdesivir left me wondering if, when his life is on the line, he will stand by his assertion that HCQ+Zinc is the way to go (which it indeed IS) instead of caving in to the advice of his doctors, who are under the thumb of the corrupt medical establishment.

      Trump needs to practice what he preaches. Everyone will want him to prove with his own life that HCQ and Zinc are indeed effective. Of course, they can also do Remdesivir and Invermectin, but HCQ and Zinc HAVE to be part of the mix.

      • sophia October 3, 2020 at 9:48 am #

        Also budesonide. IV vitamin C works well.

    • GreenAlba October 4, 2020 at 9:10 am #

      “My bet is that it will be successful in keeping all of them from getting really sick. The woke girls will then be back in the streets with their pussy hats on screaming, “Why! Why! Why!”

      If you explained the post hoc fallacy to the woke girls, cc, do you think they would understand or would it be above their heads? Or their pussy hats?

      Best not tell them the post hoc fallacy is why we have double- (or even quadruple-)blind randomised controlled trials. So that we know whether it was the HCQ, the ground unicorn hooves, or just Old Father Time. Their brains might explode.

      I believe there are some RCTs going on as we speak, involving HCQ and zinc. They will tell us something, but we’ll probably have to wait till next year, mostly. What happens to President Trump (or any other individual) will tell us – and the woke girls – absolutely nothing. But I agree with you that the woke girls probably won’t get any of this. Education isn’t everything we hope it will be.

      • hmuller October 5, 2020 at 11:05 am #

        Hi GreenAlba, “long time, no see” as they say in the Elizabeth Warren teepee.

        Salacious gossip has it that Trump caught the virus by being too, too close to Hope Hicks. I reveal my unabashed bias when I observe that a 31-yr old woman that good looking doesn’t walk the corridors of power based on her brains.

  21. JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

    Hey, if the other 90% of the population gets the crud as is projected all at once by the “let ‘er rip” scenario, who is going to pay for all the medical care?

    What a great ploy to get universal health care.

    • tucsonspur October 2, 2020 at 4:47 pm #

      I’ll take the government over insurance companies running my healthcare any day.

      • GreenAlba October 4, 2020 at 9:26 am #

        TS

        I’ve just been reading an interesting article by Atul Gawande in the New Yorker from about five years ago, called ‘Overkill’, about the monstrous amount of unnecessary and inappropriate ‘care’ that goes on in the system.

        https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/05/11/overkill-atul-gawande

        Walmart gets an honourable mention for doing something right!!

        Yes, really.

        It’s quite shocking, though, the utter waste – and harm. But some of the good practice (and concomitant money-saving) seemed to be spreading back in 2015. I don’t know if it lasted.

  22. Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 2:21 pm #

    “House approves non-binding resolution by Reps. Tom Malinowski (D-NJ) and Denver Riggleman (R-VA) condemning QAnon and rejecting the conspiracy theories it promotes.”

    https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1312068697981423616

    I guess this means that Q Anon is real.

    What a bunch of clowns.

    • JohnAZ October 2, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

      Just like Antifa is an idea. Quote!

      This country’s gap is widening.

      • Q. Shtik October 2, 2020 at 4:35 pm #

        Just like Antifa… – JohnAZ

        =======

        I just wanted to close out a loose end from a couple of days ago concerning the pronunciation of Antifa. I googled it and clicked on the speaker symbol which provides a pronunciation you can listen to. The accent is on the first syllable (An), not the second syllable (tee). Thus it is AN-tee-fah, not An-TEE-fuh.

        Sredni, and President Trump take note.

        The question is: does anyone but me give a shit?

        • zenfugue October 2, 2020 at 4:43 pm #

          And does ‘the guy’ who programmed your ‘speaker symbol’s pronunciation’ have a clue?

          • Q. Shtik October 2, 2020 at 5:11 pm #

            And does ‘the guy’ who programmed your ‘speaker symbol’s pronunciation’ have a clue?

            ===========

            Based on your skepticism I dug (digged?) further and found this from Merriam-Webster:

            Words We’re Watching: ‘Antifa’
            What it means, where it comes from, and how to say it
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            Update: This word was added in November 2017.

            Antifa. Hmm. How do you say that? English precedent for words ending in fa is largely limited to alfalfa (and, if you squint, loofah), so it’s no surprise that people don’t quite know how to pronounce the word. Currently two English pronunciations appear to be gaining widespread use: \an-?t?-f?\ (an-TEE-fuh), and \?an-t?-?fä\ (AN-tee-fah).

            So, this respected lexicographer has punted and the jury on Antifa pronunciation is still out.

          • zenfugue October 2, 2020 at 8:25 pm #

            Shall we get technical? What the hell…
            First off, it’s not ‘accent’ in question, but ‘stress’. Many words contain a primary & secondary stress, and ‘antifa’, consisting of 3 syllables might qualify.
            But who decides? It’s not objective, but subjective. For example, compare pronunciations between dictionaries, or even between editions of a dictionary.
            In short, the English language, and particularly ‘American English’ is an extreme hybrid, prone to slang and considered by many to be awkward, ambiguous, contradictory and vague. Sorta like Antifa!

            handy guide to pronunciation:
            https://www.merriam-webster.com/assets/mw/static/pdf/help/guide-to-pronunciation.pdf

        • Kim October 2, 2020 at 9:45 pm #

          @ Q.Shtik

          I have previously thought that your were just trolling with this grammar/spelling/pronunication stupidity. It is only now that I realize that you are in fact a real-life idiot.

          As to issues such as these in English, there are no authoritative rules to consult and there are no books you can go to to get the truth. That is because there is only one determining factor and that is usage. In other words, the way that “antifa” is pronounced is determined by the way that people pronounce it. And there is no appeal against that. That is simply how languages work.

          If you want to change how people pronounce it, then you can lead by example. If you are socially persuasive, a major trend-leader, you may change people’s behavior. But no one gives a shit what some fool at a publishing house thinks on the issue.

          • Q. Shtik October 2, 2020 at 10:12 pm #

            It is only now that I realize that you are in fact a real-life idiot. – Kim

            ========

            “So lemme ax you a question” said a Black man from the Bronx.

          • Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 12:23 am #

            And on that note, most people, including they themselves, say AnTEEfa.

            I know how hard this is for you, surrounded as you are by your grimoires and grammatical tomes, and still suffering from your war injury (like Don Knots in the Incredible Mr Limpet) of an Accounting Ledger falling on you from the top shelf.

          • Kim October 3, 2020 at 1:24 am #

            @ Q Shtik

            And in this context, both “lemme” and “ax” are correct. But in an academic paper it would not be accepted. Because language is a social activity. (And look, I have written four sentences each begun with a conjunction including subordinate clauses without main clauses! Am I right or wrong? Well, the answer is “context”.)

            You need to understand that people who are not part of the language community do not get to make its rules.

            This is the problem that JHK has addressed here before: by not speaking or writing in context-appropriate ways, blacks mark themselves as being not part of that community. That is their own stupid choice.

          • Q. Shtik October 3, 2020 at 1:58 am #

            most people, including they themselves, say AnTEEfa. – Sred

            ===========
            Really? How do you know that? Did you take a poll of their membership?

            Anyway, if true I would say “how foolish.”

            The ‘fa’ in Antifa is an abbreviation of fascist. Anti is a prefix meaning ‘against’. There are hundreds of words in the dictionary beginning with the prefix ‘anti’ and all of them are shown as being pronounced ANtee. Even the word ‘antifascist’ (which is in my massive Random House Dictionary although Antifa is not) begins with ‘anti’ being pronounced ANtee, not anTEE as in an-TEE-fuh-scist. I doubt anyone has EVER pronounced antifascist as an-TEE-fuh-scist.

            Accordingly, I would guess that only a handful of verbally challenged idiots (to include Trump, Kim, and my b-i-l, Peter) would pronounce antifa as an-TEE-fuh.

            There are a bunch of words that begin with the letters anti but not as a prefix meaning against. For example ‘antipathy’ where ‘tip’ gets the accent (secondarily known as the ‘stress’).

            I’ll end on that note before I get my assed banned.

          • Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 1:40 pm #

            Now you’re getting snippy. It’s just a general knowledge gained from living where they are numerous. Kind of like your hunch or informed guess that the Jews are far more numerous than we know.

          • Siebert October 3, 2020 at 8:15 pm #

            Sredni Vashtar: “Don Knots in the Incredible Mr Limpet” sealed the deal for me.

          • hmuller October 5, 2020 at 11:20 am #

            “Don Knots in the Incredible Mr Limpet” sealed the deal for me.

            I saw the movie long ago, but don’t get what it means here.

        • eatabanker October 3, 2020 at 6:05 am #

          The question is: does anyone but me give a shit?

          The question isn’t worth a shit, therefore I doubt anybody will give a shit.

          • RocketDoc October 3, 2020 at 10:53 am #

            hey eats-

            I thought it was mildly diversionary. We Southerners like the first syllable — THANKS giving and UM brell ah so might prefer to go with AN tee fa. Others can say what they like…

      • Night Owl October 2, 2020 at 5:13 pm #

        The funny part is, if they just left it alone, few would give it attention. But when they go to these lengths to invalidate it, well ….

        LOL.

    • sophia October 3, 2020 at 9:49 am #

      So the democrats won’t disavow 100 days of felonious violence, but condemn a communication group who have done nothing wrong.

  23. doggersize October 2, 2020 at 3:06 pm #

    it will have to a be a joe rogan moderated 3 hour podcast discussion between biden and trump

    • hmuller October 5, 2020 at 11:23 am #

      Also, they both have to be within Rogan’s reach for slapping, which he will be authorized to do.

  24. tucsonspur October 2, 2020 at 3:40 pm #

    “Of course, there are small-but-real odds that the disease could make Mr. Trump very ill, or even launch him up to that great boardroom in the sky. What then? Does Veep Mike Pence carry on in his place?”

    Just how small are those odds? Not small enough is my take.

    Strange isn’t it? It wasn’t hard to see this coming, yet it still shocked when it arrived. Our wide open freedom calls, balls to the walls, fuck it all mentality has not served us well.

    Many may speak to how brave Trump was, rather than how foolish he was. A martyr for the cause. What cause? Right, re-election.

    It is still to be determined how many in Trump’s family and in the upper echelons of government have been affected, and several questions have already arisen regarding his behavior and that of others after the infection of Hicks was known.

    The magnitude and gravity of the situation can be explained by the possibility that Nancy Pelosi could wind up as president until whoever is inaugurated. Pence tested negative for now, so that scenario is less likely. But the odds are all too real even if small.

    Trump has always been cavalier on the covid. Now we have a covid couple in the WH. Will they both survive? Who knows. Yeah, Trump is tough, but people could be voting for a zombie to be or a dead man walking. Even odds on that.

  25. Ishabaka October 2, 2020 at 4:06 pm #

    I once spent an interesting hour doing a psychiatric assessment of a man in his late twenties, who’d been an engineering student until schizophrenia got hold of him. It was clear he was very intelligent, and an interesting fellow to talk with, and the entire hour he was picking lice out of his hair and eating them. “Neuro-diverse” indeed.

    • Kim October 2, 2020 at 9:49 pm #

      Back in the early 1980s I had a friend who worked at a psychiatric facility. There was a patient there who had to be drugged and restrained lest he or she pull out and expose his/her own lower bowel.

      Back then that was mental illness. Nowadays it is a way to get patrons on Chaturbate.

  26. Ozymandius October 2, 2020 at 4:26 pm #

    Mesoblast have a mesonchymal stem cell product (remestemcel-L ) that ought to be made available to the president, his wife and any of their aides adversely impacted by this pernicious virus. Seems to work by damping down the cytokine storm induced by the virus, which is what disrupts lung function and which appears to be the immediate cause of death in susceptible individuals. Minimal side effects with remestemcel-L given IV. Already available in Japan. Hydroxychloroquine has many nasty side effects; no way I’d take it.

  27. wm5135 October 2, 2020 at 4:53 pm #

    “‘ Tis strange – but true; for truth is always strange;
    Stranger than fiction; if it could be told,
    How much would novels gain by the exchange!
    How differently the world would men behold!
    How oft would vice and virtue places change!
    The new world would be nothing to the old,
    If some Columbus of the moral seas
    Would show mankind their souls’ antipodes.” Lord Byron -Don Juan

    I would readily pay for a fair serving of the truth, even if it be served cold.

  28. EnterpriseSpaceship October 2, 2020 at 5:17 pm #

    “People used to being busy, productive, and independent…”

    Until Economics has introduced and then treated fossil fuels so trivially – it made humans compete against fossil fuels neck to neck.

    Physics rules over Economics – Humans cannot burn fossil fuels so cheaply and then complain productivity has vanished – of course it vanishes!

    Fossil fuels crush the market value of humans’ brain and muscle power under the weight of its energy-density, portability, versatility and synthetic prices – horsepower to horsepower!

    The concern is that not only Productivity vanishes but also depletion might force humans to play a vicious Energy hunger game too.

    Wail.

  29. tucsonspur October 2, 2020 at 5:53 pm #

    Let’s not beat around the bush any longer. Let’s cut to the covid.

    What goes around comes around.

    Play with fire and you get burned.

    Dice with death and you can die.

    Duran said ‘no mas, no mas’, not no mask, no mask.

    Will you disappear, like the virus?

    Do you have a healthy dose of it that will shred your heart and eat your lungs, like so many others?

    Do you still have it ‘totally under control’?

    ‘Anybody who wants a test can get a test’. Of course, you got one.

    How’s your medical care Donald, are you in a room full of sick people and overworked medical staff?

    Rally back Donald, rally back.

  30. Roundball Shaman October 2, 2020 at 6:02 pm #

    “The New York Times almost wet its panties breaking the pre-dawn news that the president has tested positive for coronavirus… The joyful hysteria in the mainstream news is so boisterous…”

    Everyone should think hard about what they’re feeling about this. How one reacts to a misfortune suffered by another exposes one’s own character. You don’t have to like someone. You can even detest someone. But wishing them ill reveals more about one’s self than it does about the other person. They are already whatever they are. Karmic “law” even indicates that what you wish for others is what will fall back upon you.

    Persons of Trump’s nature never want to appear vulnerable in any way. As soon as possible, he will make sure that he appears in front of the World as his usual loud self throwing tweets around with his usual vigor.

    The way the year of 2020 has gone, you almost had to expect something like this to happen. And guess what? We’ve got many weeks yet to go in This Year From Hell. More surprises ahead.

    Everyone is tired and hurting these days. We just want all this to stop. And it will, when “it” has fully had its way with us and not before. And we are just in the early days of both personal and national challenges yet ahead. We’d better catch our breath whenever we can, because there’s Badlands just ahead and our horse is tired and our provisions are running low and storm clouds continue to gather over our heads and we already sold everything else off to buy oats and jerky and there’s no safe harbor town on the horizon.

    • tucsonspur October 2, 2020 at 6:35 pm #

      Trump just had a collision with Karmic ‘law’.

    • BackRowHeckler October 2, 2020 at 8:15 pm #

      Who knows, Biden might come down with Covid-19, too? There’s still plenty of time. Biden has had all kinds of health problems in the past, including a stroke in the mid 90s. I think eventually everyone in the United States will eventually get Covid before this is thru.

      I’ve read a few articles claiming it was the Spanish flu that killed TR in Jan. 1919, and caused President Wilson’s physical collapse in 1922. In 1969 many high ranking govt officials ended up with the Hong Kong flu, including the VP.

      Brh

      • tucsonspur October 2, 2020 at 8:56 pm #

        It could happen. If the worst happened to Trump, who would fill that big, cold, lonely void?

        The man would be sorely missed. Hang on, Donald.

      • Kim October 2, 2020 at 9:54 pm #

        Nobody seems to be discussing the most likely implication: If Trump had to step down, the country would get Pence; but if it were Biden, the result would be Kamala.

        And it is short odds that Biden would have to be put aside not very long after he were elected.

  31. tucsonspur October 2, 2020 at 6:26 pm #

    What if Trump dies? Yes, scary isn’t it? Pence becomes president but does he automatically become candidate? What’s the procedure?

  32. DrGonzo October 2, 2020 at 7:00 pm #

    JHK’s posts would sound better in the original German.

    • John1945 October 2, 2020 at 9:11 pm #

      So rauh der süßen Schwärmerei entrissen,
      Wird eins mir klar: ‘s ist hier wie dort beschissen.
      EJ. ,1918

      Probably it will but Mr.Kunstler posts will remain unread.German and English are on the way out.Spanish & Arabic appear to be the Languages of the Future.

      • Kim October 2, 2020 at 9:58 pm #

        You see no future for ebonics?

        • John1945 October 2, 2020 at 10:39 pm #

          Yo YT, you dissin me?
          Don’t be tellin’ me dat I can’t talk good cuz I speak ebonics.
          You best not talk to me like dat, im liable to be splittin some wigs up in yo mug if you keep disrespectin like that…so ignant
          🙂

      • eatabanker October 3, 2020 at 6:06 am #

        Ebonics

      • RocketDoc October 3, 2020 at 6:36 pm #

        Man ist was er isst. (Man is what he eats)
        -Feuerbach (famous German nutritionist that motivated Marx and Engels to find an alternative to Christianity)

        • hmuller October 5, 2020 at 11:28 am #

          On more than one occasion Catholic critics mockingly noted Martin Luther’s flatulence problem. Some blame raw radishes washed down with beer. I blame the “Diet of Worms”.

    • Night Owl October 4, 2020 at 5:52 am #

      A colony of your emaciated bros lives around the corner from me in the local Autonomisches Zentrum. Out of pity, the city lets them camp there permanently.

      They live in old rusty buses scattered in a muddy field and spend the day handing out flyers about the Red utopia they wish to impose. Sometimes they hang on the street corner begging for pocket change that they then use at the local McDonalds.

      Antifaschistische Aktion, broseph!

  33. wwg1wga October 2, 2020 at 8:10 pm #

    ACTIONS congruent with the teachings….

    http://www.got-truth.com/docs/ACTIONS%20congruent%20with%20the%20teachings.pdf

  34. tom clark October 2, 2020 at 9:26 pm #

    From the asylum:

    Eye halve a spelling chequer
    It came with my pea sea
    It planely marques four my revue
    Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

    Eye strike a key and type a word
    And weight four it two say
    Weather eye am wrong oar write
    It shows me strait a weigh.

    As soon as a mist ache is maid
    It nose bee fore two long
    And eye can put the error rite
    Its rare lea ever wrong.

    Eye have run this poem threw it
    I’m shore your pleased to no
    Its letter perfect awl the weigh
    My chequer tolled me sew.

    • swazimoto October 2, 2020 at 11:31 pm #

      That iz effing prize-less!

    • SpeedyBB October 3, 2020 at 5:30 am #

      The above poem is a triumphant example of the argument against the speech-to-text fancy that has pulled in so many of our chorus sponge dance. First the message, garbled and dashed off; then follows the apology for all the errors contained therein. How often have we seen this?

      A common attitude these days is that learning how to use correct standard English grammar, spelling and choosing adhere to proper usage is elitist. Be that as it may, it’s the standard to which you either rise to or (by choice or fate) do not.

      And I am reliably informed that CVs submitted to corporate recruiters routinely include smileys, SMS slang, emojis and other such contemporary deco.

    • AKlein October 3, 2020 at 7:48 am #

      Whon thot Aprille swithin potrzebie,
      The burgid prillie gives one heebie-jeebie.

  35. Sredni Vashtar October 2, 2020 at 9:29 pm #

    Trump disavows the Proud Boys even though he admits he doesn’t know much about them. So why did he stand with them before? Whites in the public eye are always running scared. What a terrible existential state. But I will vote for him, clothespin on my nose…

    from Amren poster, Ambrose Kane:

    “I condemn the Proud Boys. I don’t know much about the Proud Boys, almost nothing. But I condemn that” – What complete moron! He condemns a groups he knows “almost nothing” about.

    This condemnation proves that claiming to be a “civic nationalist” will NOT exempt one from the current hysteria over “White Supremacy.” Even though the Proud Boys have officially condemned “White Nationalists,” it will NOT save them from being seen as neo-Nazis by the average low-IQ American sheep.

    What they are all collectively saying is this: We do not want Whites to ever unite and advocate on behalf of their racial and cultural interests!

    • Kim October 2, 2020 at 10:07 pm #

      The insanity is everywhere. Sites like Breitbart are vomitous but so too teh comments on supposedly conservative aggregators like Citizen Free Press. But (insert negro face here) really owned dem libs…

      He cain’t be rayciss! He black!

      I judge a person on the content of his character!

      But I bet you cross the road when you see a group of youfs on the corner, you hypocritical, self-loathing fraud.

      Whites have really become an entire race of eunuchs and cuckolds.

      Here are a couple of very attractive young whites stabbed to death by a feral creature from the jungle. Does this even matter to these cucks, or is it all about how you think people will think about them?

      http://www.nnnforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347542

      • BackRowHeckler October 3, 2020 at 6:12 am #

        Yeah, a terrible weekend ‘in de hood’ inside Ct, plenty of shootings and stabbings, and the recent phenomena of pedestrians being deliberately run down with cars. Beautiful autumn weather, leaves beginning to change color, welfare checks still being sent out, regardless, the blood continues to flow.

        Brh

    • tucsonspur October 2, 2020 at 10:58 pm #

      Kellyanne Conway has it. The WH is now a corona virus hotspot.

      ‘What they are all collectively saying is this: We do not want Whites to ever unite and advocate on behalf of their racial and cultural interests!’ Sred

      Well said. Yes, vote for him, clothespin and all. No other way. I’ll do it even though I strongly disapprove of his handling of the virus, on top of this. One giant clothespin.

    • John1945 October 2, 2020 at 11:36 pm #

      =Trump disavows the Proud Boys=

      Because Pride is one of 7 Deadly Sins.

      “Pride goeth before Destruction, and a Haughty Spirit before a Fall.”
      Book of Proverbs, 16:18

      Proud Boys have a lot to learn from Italians.Or they will be infiltrated,charged with every kind of BS and end up in the federal pen.

      While BLM/Antifa Joint Task Force will keep wreaking havoc with gay abandon.

      In Italian community things are not what they seem.Kindly Priest says “Come closer my Son,confess your sins !” But his crucifix is actually a sheath for a long, sharp,poisoned dagger…

      “I heard you paint houses ?”
      ” I do the carpentry work too ! ”

      This talk is not about construction…

      And I doubt very much that “mechanics” on the Grassy Knoll were puffed up with Pride.Yet their operation was flawless.

      • Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 12:29 am #

        Yes, we need subtlety to cover over our pride. But basic pride or self love is not a sin as “Love your neighbor as yourself”. Whites have trouble with this basic self love now. And our enemies capitalize on this by equating it with pride – as you just did as well. A serious mistake in my book.

        • John1945 October 3, 2020 at 6:08 pm #

          Proud Boys, Black Lives Matter leaders hold joint conference: We ‘denounce White supremacy’

          http://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/1/proud-boys-black-lives-matter-leaders-hold-joint-c/?__twitter_impression=true

          I am glad I am not there.Because when those dumb ugly obese Sisters start yelling I want to plug my ears & do a backward flip.

          There is a book “The Judas Goats” by Michael Collins Piper which describes how controlled opposition is created and run.

          When I see Tea Party,Occupy Wall Street,Proud Boys etc. my BS detector flashes red.

          • Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

            Well that’s a new low. Their leaders are betraying them. What next? Rioting alongside their new friends? BLM good, Antifa bad? Stupid.

  36. malthuss October 2, 2020 at 11:00 pm #

    There is a House resolution condemning QAnon.

    W T H–A house resolution to condemn a blogger.

  37. nclaughlin October 2, 2020 at 11:24 pm #

    Let me start a wild conspiracy theory. Trump is now in the hospital, where he will be medically assassinated.

    • Kim October 3, 2020 at 10:42 am #

      Well the commies did get Forrestal in a hospital.

  38. elysianfield October 3, 2020 at 12:33 am #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    The BBC reports, this PM, that Actor Rick Moranis, 67 year old “Gostbuster” icon, was set upon, and punched in the head by a passerby.

    The police got a good description of the assailant, describing him as “a man”, who, after the sucker punch, walked away from the scene.

    Police are offering a $2500 reward for anyone who can solve this case….

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54396065

    I saw someone yesterday buying a Slurpee at the 7-11 who fit the description perfectly….

    If I get the reward, I/m goin’ to Disneyland….

    • Sean Coleman October 3, 2020 at 5:47 am #

      “A man”, so, and not “a lovely lady”?

      • eatabanker October 3, 2020 at 6:09 am #

        “Anyone who knows anything of history knows that great social changes are impossible without feminine upheaval. Social progress can be measured exactly by the social position of the fair sex, the ugly ones included.”

        -Karl Marx

      • elysianfield October 3, 2020 at 11:24 am #

        Sean,
        Yes, the description narrows the search significantly….

  39. tucsonspur October 3, 2020 at 4:02 am #

    Mexico can do it, why can’t we?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexico-deploys-military-block-migrant-232044329.html

    Get well, Donald.

    • SoftStarLight October 3, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

      Exactly! The President of Mexico has been awesome on immigration and borders. There is no reason our military should not be at the border either except we have so many traitors in office and so many people throughout society making a fortune because of open borders.

    • SoftStarLight October 3, 2020 at 3:22 pm #

      Trump has always said that the establishment hates him because they hate his supporters. That isn’t really a revelation. Is it possible that the establishment is an ever changing phenomenon with competing sets of elites? Is Trump part of a different faction of the elite then someone like Biden? Why does China prefer Biden over Trump? Maybe a narrative phase shift is underway.

  40. YourEmotionsAreNotReality October 3, 2020 at 6:59 am #

    ‘The Judeo-Christian God of our fathers must have a special animus for the Golden Golem of Greatness. He / She / It / or They have heaped more tribulation on Mr. Trump than on the biblical Job of Uz’

    That’s a bizarre claim. He got the virus due to his own actions and negligence. How many events did he attend where people milled about without masks? That is his own fault. Did you see him making fun of Biden for wearing masks too often during the debate?

    Trump has lived a cushy life, inherited a ton of money which he squandered with stupid business decisions . Then he rode on tax fraud and loans. Of course, at some point, you have to pay the piper, but again- its his own fault.

    Kunstler’s rants are really lop-sided and his obvious sympathy for Trump is quite amusing. The high-pitched rhetoric Kunstler uses is because he’s experiencing cognitive dissonance, as the rest of his brain realizes what Trump really is , and what he’s done.

    • Kim October 3, 2020 at 10:28 am #

      You might consult your own handle before you next comment.

    • sophia October 3, 2020 at 11:21 am #

      This mask stuff has turned out just like Fauci said it would. People actually speak as if the masks are the difference between getting infected or not when they do little or nothing. And look how people are blaming him for getting it. They do not blame other people for getting it.

  41. TheRadicalMiddle October 3, 2020 at 7:35 am #

    Even if Trump wins the presidency again, there’s a good chance the dems will control the House and Senate after the election. In that case, Trump will be impeached for something he did, or did not do, and the Senate will find him guilty and remove Trump from office.
    Far fetched ???

    • Kim October 3, 2020 at 10:30 am #

      There is no chance the Rs will lose the Senate.

    • sophia October 3, 2020 at 11:22 am #

      I rather hope that many dems will be replaced, such as governors andm ayors.

      • TheRadicalMiddle October 3, 2020 at 12:25 pm #

        (imho) If Trump is trying to gather more voters under his tent, he would devote 15 minutes of his ‘bully pulpit’ time to teach a quick civics course to explain HOW/WHY Nancy blocks legislation….instead of just saying “Nancy bad”. Looks like low-hanging fruit to me. Unlike 1965, few students now graduate public schools with any exposure to classwork in government functions.

  42. Htruth October 3, 2020 at 11:17 am #

    Donald Trump’s Medical Bill: https://americanyellowvest.wpcomstaging.com/2020/10/03/donald-trumps-medical-bill/

    • SoftStarLight October 3, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

      During the debate Biden uttered “inshallah” when Trump said he was releasing his tax returns after the audit. Inshallah means God willing in Arabic and is a Muslim expression. It was a dog whistle to let the Muslims know a Biden administration will submit to the will of allah and sharia law?

  43. BackRowHeckler October 3, 2020 at 1:18 pm #

    What’s happening on Columbus Day, has it been banned?

    Every Columbus Monument in Ct has been torn down, vandalized severely, or removed by spineless lefty mayors. One of them was was built by Augustus St Gaudens, eminent early 20th century sculpture.It was a valuable piece of American art, but what does that matter? It offended the community, so it had to go.

    Ask 100 Community Members who Augustus St. Gaudens was, or the significance of Christopher Columbus, see what kind of response you get.

    “He be rayciss”.that’s about it.

    Brh

    • stelmosfire October 3, 2020 at 6:34 pm #

      Saint-Gaudens also designed the double eagle $20 dollar gold coin. A beautiful design. I believe a 1933 $20 doulbe eagle sold for over 7 million a few years back. That is some serious inflation.

  44. Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

    https://www.france24.com/en/20201002-turkey-has-a-clear-objective-of-reinstating-the-turkish-empire-armenian-pm-says

    Erdogan is both a Sultan and an Emir. He must be stopped.

  45. Htruth October 3, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

    Picture Of Trump Boarding Helicopter With Oxygen Tank?: https://americanyellowvest.wpcomstaging.com/2020/10/03/trump-boards-helicopter-with-oxygen-tank/

  46. Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

    Tucker Carlson: Trump could make a wine list sound threatening.

    The Democratic strategy is thus revealed. Poor old Uncle Joe makes Communism sound compassionate and easy. Joe is LIKEABLE. That’s huge for average and below average normies – and it’s a fatal flaw of Democracy. That and his good looks are all Biden ever had going for him, but it was enough to keep him in office for half a century despite his obvious mediocrity and character deficit.

    • SoftStarLight October 3, 2020 at 2:57 pm #

      Then so should the average and below average normies be consumed and cut off the vine. A fatal flaw of democracy indeed. And an example of the diminishing returns of uncontrolled population growth.

      • Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 3:43 pm #

        Consumed?! You’re well outside of Christianity now. How about we just keep the dummies from voting!

        Long term I’d agree though. Eugenics can be soft and gradual, focusing on the better people having more kids and the lesser ones having fewer. The really bad ones could be induced to have none at all perhaps. Make all of this voluntary as far as possible, with tax breaks, cultural appreciation, etc. The Enemy has created dysgenics with all kinds of special programs and social conditioning towards sterility and hostility between the sexes. So it’s not like we’d be doing something they weren’t doing – we’d just be doing it to help the nation not destroy it as is their intent.

        • SoftStarLight October 3, 2020 at 6:19 pm #

          Oh, well yeah I guess I get a little too zealous huh. Yes, its more reasonable to simply prevent the dummies from voting. But do you think they will have resentments that would cause problems later because of that? Our enemies have also guided our culture into becoming one that values the lowest common denominators (even if superficially) rather than that which is superior. So for instance telling people they are fat is shaming and basically hate speech even though the reality is that they are fat and unhealthy and essentially killing themselves.

          • Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 11:46 pm #

            Your ferocity is healthy and sign of great aliveness. I love that about you even if it needs to be checked now and then.

            Well what I said would have to do with the next America (if any). The dummies and their handlers are in control now and we’re headed for the cliff. All eugenics are bad according to them, no matter how gentle or wise. The Church is against it too, only focused on the soul (at best), as if the body and brain don’t matter at all.

  47. Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 3:50 pm #

    https://www.amren.com/news/2020/10/harry-and-meghan-demand-end-to-structural-racism-in-britain/

    The red haired bastard demands the end of the White Race. He’s not smart enough to know that’s what he’s asking for, but that IS what he is asking for when he says we can’t have anything of our own.

    • SoftStarLight October 3, 2020 at 6:27 pm #

      But I do wonder if his indoctrination has been so thorough that he would be ok with the extinction of Whites? It follows logically at least that if you believe Whites are the greatest evil on the planet then you would probably conclude the planet would be better off without Whites. Maybe that is why he married Meghan. Maybe he is thinking at least his kids will be better off mixed race than being fully White because of his worldviews?

      • Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 11:41 pm #

        Probably there but unconscious. Man is an iceberg after all, with nine tenths beneath the water (conscious mind) line. He doesn’t seem like the type to ever really examine his thoughts much less struggle with the alien or demonic ones.

        The Enemy is has definitely implanted a death wish into the collective unconscious of the White Race.

      • Night Owl October 4, 2020 at 5:38 am #

        He married Markle because she is much more attractive than him, and he can’t believe she lets him have sex with her.

        She married him because she loves money, attention, and control.

        A tale as old as time.

  48. ed October 3, 2020 at 5:45 pm #

    Jim,

    I have been a loyal follower for 10-12 years. First got my attention when you still published ” dumb pollack ” comments. I get it your ” out there ” and a advanced thinker on many issues. Your claim to fame is being able to see past much of the crap in our society.
    Your semi support of Trump is disturbing. he is a sleeze, liar, uncouth and incompetent. Not at all someone who should be on the world stage as the leader of the USA. So yes, you are right on many things, but the republicans should have teed up a for real presidential candidate instead of Trump.
    He has done so much damage to this country its unimaginable.
    Would love to meet you for a drink if your ever in the New York or northern NJ territory for a event.

    Ed

    Hey, Ed —
    Yes, Mr Trump is uncouth. His opponents, on the other hand, want to tell you what to think and how to act, and coerce you into it, and cancel you if you object. The Democratic Party is the party of chaos and punishment. They are the party of no boundaries and bad faith. I am against them now with all my heart. Therefore, I’m for the president in this election. — JHK ADMIN

    • JohnAZ October 3, 2020 at 6:24 pm #

      Trump has been treated like crap since he announced. The Democrats have thrown every trick at him they could come up with, lying, cheating, blocking almost every thing he has tried to do. In spite of it, we had the best economy of many decades, we are at relative peace with the world, our servicemen are slowly heading home, trade agreements are in place that do not cripple the US, manufacturing is slowly coming back to the US, until the Covid hit we were going along pretty well.

      Take your hatred elsewhere. If you want to ID the bad guys you might try “eyes Left”.

    • SoftStarLight October 3, 2020 at 6:34 pm #

      LOL what is the unimaginable damage? Any detail at all? Can we get some detail on the unimaginable damage done to the country prior to Trump or is he the Destroyer in your urban super progressive bubble?

    • cbeard October 4, 2020 at 2:47 pm #

      A sleeze, liar, uncouth and incompetent. With a couple of exceptions, it sounds like all the previous presidents in my lifetime and the majority of everyone else in D.C. He is the ONLY one who seems to understand what unbridled immigration has done to this country, and the only one who realizes that sending our manufacturing base overseas was a bad idea. The damage to the country was done long before Trump. He is the only one trying to fix it.

      • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2020 at 6:45 pm #

        Lyndon Johnson was pretty uncouth. He’d give interviews sitting on the presidential throne in the White House. He was also known on occasion to whip out his Presidential Member, and tell a reporter in no uncertain terms this is what his political opponents could suck on.

        Nobody was too concerned about Johnson’s uncouthness at the time, apparently.

        Brh

  49. RocketDoc October 3, 2020 at 7:43 pm #

    I thought I would mention that we currently have six justices of the Supreme Court who are Catholic. The nominated Amy Comey is a devout Catholic. Who was the last person neither Catholic or Jewish on the Supreme Court? Asking for an Evangelical friend…..

    • malthuss October 3, 2020 at 8:27 pm #

      Catholic church infiltrated by the Jesuits. They do the work for that other group.

    • Siebert October 3, 2020 at 8:31 pm #

      Spanish Inquisition material IMHO.

    • John1945 October 3, 2020 at 8:43 pm #

      Neil Gorsuch is Episcopalian.
      Most of the Founders were Episcopalian.
      In 200 years that Rich Boys Club degenerated into Sodom and Gomorrah.

      • JohnAZ October 3, 2020 at 9:34 pm #

        Well said. Most were masons. The US was created as a Masonic Lodge.

        • John1945 October 4, 2020 at 11:17 am #

          Back then Church attendance was obligatory so our crafty Founders were both Masons and Episcopalians.

          Why Episcopalians ? One joke explains it better than 100 books:

          -a Baptist is a Christian who learned to wash
          -a Methodist is a Baptist who wears shoes
          -a Presbyterian is a Methodist who’s gone to college
          -an Episcopalian is a Presbyterian who’s investments turned out well

          It is like in good old times-

          Factory worker drove Chevrolet
          His foreman drove Pontiac
          Plant manager drove Oldsmobile
          Doctors and Lawyers drove Buicks
          Hollywood stars and wiseguys drove (or were driven in) Cadillacs

    • Q. Shtik October 3, 2020 at 9:44 pm #

      The nominated Amy Comey is a devout Catholic. – RocketDoc

      ==========

      Why are Catholics always said to be “devout?” You never hear about a lukewarm or wishy washy Catholic.

      • Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 11:37 pm #

        Because Protestants think you only have to believe on Jesus. Catholics have to love Him. Big difference. Fake Catholics – also called Democrats – are a dime a dozen and aren’t worth talking about.

      • Kim October 4, 2020 at 6:07 am #

        Google “lapsed Catholic” and see how many hits you get.

  50. Siebert October 3, 2020 at 8:29 pm #

    I recently watched “Sleeper” the film Woody Allen made with Diane Keaton. Back when all my acid head friends in the 70’s joked about how he wouldn’t shoot the nose, I somehow knew what was ahead.

    Army of the Twelve Monkeys aside, the timing of this so-called infection is immaculate. He will recover and roar. Perfect timing.

    Best part of Sleeper is the Tennessee Williams interpretation of Woody emerging from the orgasmatron, with Dianne as Marlon Brando. Precious.

    Interesting that Marlon was doing “Apocalypse Now” around the time of “Sleeper.”

  51. Kim October 3, 2020 at 9:05 pm #

    That evil white man and his slavery. Especially those evil Christians.

    Reparations now!

    But from whom? And to whom?

    https://www.africanglobe.net/africa/good-muslim-arabs-libya-enslaving-blacks-selling-500/

    The Good Muslim Arabs Of Libya Are Enslaving Blacks And Selling Them For $500

    • Sredni Vashtar October 3, 2020 at 11:30 pm #

      The Caucasians of North Africa are as ferocious as the Blacks. They have a future. The Eloi of Euro-America do not. Good is thus evil since it leads to death.

    • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2020 at 6:35 pm #

      Hmm, that’s interesting.

      Arab slavers supposedly were suppressed around 1890 by the British Navy and to a lesser extent the British Expeditionary Army. Arab slavers had operated primarily out of Zanzibar, BEGINNING IN THE MID 4th CENTURY. An estimated 40 million black Africans were rounded up over a period of 1500 years and brought to the Persian Gulf, Arabian Peninsula, and Barbary Coast.

      Apparently the past century+ was just a hiatus, Arab slavers are at it again, with a vengeance.

      Does Labron know about it?

      Brh

  52. Kim October 3, 2020 at 9:08 pm #

    Another black-on-white murder. An almost daily occurrence. No national news coverage.

    Whose lives matter?

    https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/teens-charged-as-adults-in-slaying-of-south-florida-bartender-in-miramar/2301458/

    Two teenagers will face adult charges in the fatal shooting of a South Florida bartender, police said Friday.

    Gershon Woods, who turns 17 on Saturday, and Nathaniel Williams, 16, are being held without bond on charges of second-degree murder and carjacking. They appeared in court Friday morning online from a detention facility where they are being held without bond.

    Nelson Vega, 39, was killed Sept. 13 when he drove his girlfriend home after finishing a shift at J.P. Mulligan’s sports bar in Pembroke Pines. Police said Woods and Williams had set out to steal a car to go joyriding.

  53. Kim October 3, 2020 at 9:18 pm #

    But ridiculously unbelievable white-on-black hate-hoaxes get gullible/scheming national media play.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/feds-close-investigation-yet-another-hate-crime-hoax

    Eighteen-year-old Althea Bernstein claimed she was the victim of a hate crime attack. Her story was uncritically reported across the nation. CNN, NBC, Good Morning America, and most major print publications told a horrific story.

    Althea Bernstein, 18, told investigators she was stopped at a traffic light in the city at around 1 a.m. Wednesday when she heard someone yell a racial slur through her rolled-down window, according to a police department incident report

    “She looked and saw four men, all white. She says one used a spray bottle to deploy a liquid on her face and neck, and then threw a flaming lighter at her, causing the liquid to ignite,” the report states.

    I always find it strange and remarkable when people say – as if it were a badge of a superior skeptical mindset rather than just a fear of being seen to demur from popular viewpoints – “I don’t believe in conspiracy theories.”

    You don’t believe in conspiracies? Why not? What is it then when news of REAL endemic black-on-white violence gets no media focus but FAKE stories of white-on-black violence get beat up across the nation?

    That isn’t the result of a deliberate, closely-held plan to misinform the public?

    People are idiots.

  54. Kim October 3, 2020 at 9:25 pm #

    Another black-on-white murder.

    https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/10/02/17-year-old-boyfriend-charged-with-manslaughter-after-roseville-high-school-senior-fatally-shot/

    17-year-old boyfriend charged with manslaughter after Roseville High School senior fatally shot: Kira Seymour was shot and killed with her 6-week-old daughter nearby

    So the daughter, I gather, was his. Doing the math on this relationship, that means one less white person in this world and one more black person.

    And she was a redhead too – the silly child – and there are not many of them.

    So much for diversity.

    Anyway, whose lives matter?

  55. JohnAZ October 3, 2020 at 9:40 pm #

    Just looked closely at Trump going to Walter Reed on Marine 1. My wife said he looked pale. I think he looked natural, ie sans make up. The man has silver hair and his normal complexion was not orange. Silver and some blonde mixed in. No reverse raccoon eyes.

    IMHO, much better.

    • Night Owl October 4, 2020 at 4:51 am #

      They forgot to bump up the contrast as they usually do. Trump has a 96% chance of recovering from the Coroneau flu.

      There is nothing to worry about.

  56. JohnAZ October 3, 2020 at 9:45 pm #

    Why did Trump’s doctor try to cover up a serious start up to his symptoms? CYA? The move to WR may have nipped this in the bud. Is immediate action the key to beating the mortality level?

    • Q. Shtik October 3, 2020 at 10:07 pm #

      Speaking of the virus:

      @Green Alba

      Are you monitoring?

      A couple of days ago the NY Times had a picture of PM BoJo and mentioned that he had had the Covid virus but recovered and he now said he was “as fit as a butcher’s dog.” I LMAO!

      • GreenAlba October 4, 2020 at 8:10 am #

        Yes, I saw that quote here too, Q. Butchers’ dogs everywhere cringed.

        I’m sure Mr Trump will be fine. They’re both lardy, although Boris had the advantage of age (about 17 years?). But by all accounts Trump seems to have had a milder dose than Boris to start with. Boris was shaking hands with the world and his wife just before he got Covid. He’s rather more into mitigation now, needless to say – and is trying to get the nation slimmed down too – lots of encouraging ads on the teevee between hearty chunks of The Great British Bake Off.

        • Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

          Mark Steyn (who used to work with him in journalism) said he’s never been the same. That being said, did you see this?

          https://www.yahoo.com/news/scottish-government-coronavirus-advert-spread-101040682.html

          Absolutely disgusting. A terror campaign against its own people. Total positives (whatever that means) since March? 31,000. Nothing in other words, even by their own metric.

          • GreenAlba October 4, 2020 at 1:48 pm #

            No, I hadn’t seen it. It’s a bit gross, but then I’ve seen infection lectures that start with the students unknowingly being given a sheet with stuff on it so that they can see later where it all went on their hands and faces, under untra-violet light or something, albeit not usually slime green. None of them looked terrified, although they were a bit surprised by how much of the stuff was on them. I think calling it a ‘terror campaign’ is over-egging the pudding, just as they have, but you have an agenda too! Maybe silver glitter would have got the point across. 🙂

            I see it says it’s on the Scottish Government website, so I’m not sure why they’d be expecting lots of impressionable children to have seen it. I hadn’t.

            And regarding the English experience, if I may digress, I have to say I’m quite amused to find myself way far off on the libertarian side of BoJo (it’s less of a surprise with Nicola). Not something I’d have predicted.

            I pay no attention to positives and negatives (until such time as I’m likely to be tested myself, or at least someone in my family).

            You’ll recall the huge percentage of false negatives Neurodoc mentioned, just the same (about 48% of pre-symptomatic people and about 30% of symptomatic people, I think).

            Best to just get on, avoid crowds and busy buildings if you’re my age or older, distance where possible, and put a mask on where appropriate, as RocketDoc patiently advised. Less dramatic.

            Boris, according to his own testimony, could have gone either way while in intensive care, and he’s not even 60, so it’s not that much of a surprise that it affected him. I don’t imagine he was much given to speculating on his own mortality. He’s not really the type.

  57. snagglepuss October 4, 2020 at 7:53 am #

    Does anyone know why a full physical including the Montreal Cognitive Assessement test is taken after the election instead of as a prerequisite to get on the ballot for President? Was thinking about Biden during the debate. I think he had something under his shirt near the collar bone area, probably to avoid the appearance of a mic in his ear.
    Why isn’t the physical mandatory before the election to avoid post election surprises?

  58. benr October 4, 2020 at 8:49 am #

    The way forward!

    Everyone starts driving electric cars with bio-diesel generators.
    Throw in regenerative braking and all the latest gadgets.
    Win win!

    https://www.oann.com/u-s-oil-refiners-look-to-leapfrog-canadians-in-making-renewable-diesel/

  59. JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 11:49 am #

    The source of all movement, the source of all life, the source of all energy on this planet is the sun. No product compresses so much energy as oil. Energy in vs. energy out is all that matters. Electric cars are not the future as the reduced energy available from renewable resources will not create near the road mileage that fossil fuels can. All alternatives, however, will be needed to supplant the decreasing supply of oil, already started. Right now, electric cars belong to urbanized, wealthy folks that feel they are doing their part to combat pollution and CO2 buildup. Another example of the stupidification of America. The Long Emergency should be required high school reading. But we would not want to upset all those indulged children, would we?

    • SoftStarLight October 4, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

      Sometimes I feel like it would have been better if we just continued to be cave people. Knowledge brings a lot of evil with any good that it brings.

      • Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 2:06 pm #

        Too late. You opened the box.

        https://www.thoughtco.com/what-was-pandoras-box-118577

        • SoftStarLight October 4, 2020 at 5:25 pm #

          Ah. But did not Zeus instruct that Pandora be created, and the box too? It seems as if all the responsibility is kinda with him. Why must everything be so unfair when I am simply living and trying to do my best. And why is a box created if it isn’t supposed to be open anyway!? Perhaps that is the trickery you are seeking to cast blame at.

          • Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 8:48 pm #

            Maybe you were supposed to open the box since that was what Humanity needed. We had to suffer in order to grow. Living in caves just wasn’t going to cut it.

            The animals are unconscious imperfection. The gods are conscious perfection. Man is conscious imperfection – the most uncomfortable position of the three. Cave life was too close to that of the animals.

          • SoftStarLight October 5, 2020 at 9:42 am #

            You are so nice to me. I appreciate you.

  60. JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

    Watching the debacle of the coverage of the president’s illness. We are not getting the full story from the doctors in charge. The onset of the virus was understated yesterday by the MDs, much more serious than reported. Not deadly, but if the typical White House complacency had been allowed to reign, it could have taken a serious turn.

    The thing I am getting from this is that all the folks getting the crud are NOT following the basic two mitigation rules, no.1 keep your distance ( should be ten feet, not six, IMO) and when you cannot maintain that distance, put on a mask. If people would take the social distancing seriously, masks would hardly ever be necessary.

    I have watched the last couple of days of Trump and his staff interacting, basically no social distancing at all and no masks. Air Force One made a great incubator coming home from Duluth. It is like they were daring the crud to invade their sphere.

    It did!

    • JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 12:10 pm #

      I hope this makes believers of the White House. Too much national security depends on these folks to have all of them come down with the crud.

      • SoftStarLight October 4, 2020 at 1:02 pm #

        John, you worry too much. Didn’t you learn anything from the Final Destination franchise? Death, which can come in the form of an illness, is a stalker. And one day no matter what you do you will have a date with death. Senator Thom Tillis got the virus supposedly despite his compliant mask wearing at the SCOTUS Rose Garden ceremony for ACB. If you live life in fear of death you are already dead. Life is for living and nothing is perfect or totally safe in this plane of existence.

        • JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 1:18 pm #

          OMG, so easy to say when you are young.

          Thom Tillis social distancing does two things. One, it lets droplets fall to the ground when people spit them out before they get to you. Two, distancing in an indoor crowd cuts down on the concentration of the airborne particles. Remember it takes a certain number of viruses to onset the disease. BTW, masks do nothing for airborne transmission, only droplet.

          Let ‘er rip disease control is really good at one thing. Increasing the death rate. Senseless deaths are stupid. Your comments remind me of an old saying.

          Anyone can stop smoking, it takes a man to fight cancer. Stupid thinking then, Let ‘er rip is stupid thinking now.

          BTW, we have no Flu statistics to compare this disease with. However, it seems to me that whatever it takes to knock down all the virus diseases is a good thing. I wonder what the impact of Covid mitigation has had on the incidence of flu or the common cold. We probably will never know.

          Sidebar. The northern states are showing increases in new cases as the southern decreases.

          Turn on those heating units as we turn off the air conditioners.

          • Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 1:40 pm #

            Why stop there? Think of how many lives could be saved if cigarettes were banned? And alcohol too of course.

            Why stop there? Think of how many lives could be saved if we had a 10 pm curfew.

            The sky’s the limit. You’re still thinking small.

            No? Why not? Show your work and then explain why it doesn’t also apply to mandatory masks and the lockdowns.

          • GreenAlba October 4, 2020 at 2:10 pm #

            “Why stop there? Think of how many lives could be saved if cigarettes were banned?”

            Smoking cigarettes doesn’t give OTHER PEOPLE cancer, except in specific circumstances.

            Not that I’d argue for mandatory masks anyway, except in very specific places. I’m just grateful when people abide by the guidance and wear them in shops and on public transport. They’re mandatory here on buses, theoretically, but I sat on the other side of the aisle from a young guy the other day who wasn’t wearing one. He had the soles of his shoes on the seat opposite too, so consideration for other people was never going to be his strong point. Nobody said anything or even glowered at him, and the bus driver certainly must have decided it wasn’t worth the argument.

            From a doc on a doctors’ blog: ‘If you don’t like the mask you’re really not going to like the ventilator’.

          • Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 3:52 pm #

            Having Covid doesn’t give other people Covid except in specific circumstances like proximity and being symptomatic. Just like smoking in proximity to others can cause them cancer. An obvious missed point by you.

            And what about the insurance premiums that others must bear in relation to private covid and smoking? Another easy point.

            You’re off your game because you refused to enter into the spirit of my question. It’s like you’re trying to play football (soccer) during a rugby match. You’re getting squashed.

          • GreenAlba October 4, 2020 at 5:39 pm #

            People smoking can be avoided because you can see them smoking.

            An obvious point missed by you.

            “And what about the insurance premiums that others must bear in relation to private covid and smoking?”

            Huh?

            “You’re getting squashed.”

            Oh, dear. The horror, the horror … 🙂

          • Kim October 4, 2020 at 11:18 pm #

            One sometimes comes across discussions of Covid laws that bring up smoking bans, and compare them to things like mask wearing and forced vacinations.

            The problem is that the analogy is very weak. Given how often one sees this analogy in internet comments, I have been provoked to assemble some thoughts on the matter:

            1. The situations are not analogous at all: a ban on smoking in public places requires

            a) that people refrain from doing something that is not essential to life and

            b) that refraining from doing it CANNOT endanger their health.

            In contrast. mask wearing and in particular submission to vaccination requires that people do or submit to something that in fact MAY – in varying degrees of course – compromise or endanger their health.

            So the two situations are prima facie not analogous. Kind of the opposite in fact.

            2. The anti-smoking laws comply with the precautionary principle but forced-vaccine laws do not:

            The Precautionary Principle is defined as follows:
            When human activities may lead to morally unacceptable harm that is scientifically plausible but uncertain, actions shall be taken to avoid or diminish that harm. Morally unacceptable harm refers to harm to humans or the environment that is

            – threatening to human life or health, or
            – serious and effectively irreversible, or
            – inequitable to present or future generations, or
            – imposed without adequate consideration of the human rights of those affected.

            Over the decades, there has been many and widespread instances of vaccines damaging human health. One need only refer to the autism/vaccines debate.

            3. Different publich attitudes to governmental impositions: when the anti-smoking laws were adopted, the public had a generelly positive attitude towards it. First, it was free of cost to the public and imposed no restrictions on their natural freedom.

            Also the research about smoking and its harms was widely publicly accepted thanks to the very considerable amount of publicity given to the nefarious, corupt and criminal activities of Big Tobacco. They had been saying for years that tobacco was not injurious to the health. Everyone knew that was bs.

            On top of that, legal actions – especially adversarial and criminal legal actions – against Big Tobacco had overthrown the control that Big Tobacco had of corrupt “science” and revealed masses of hidden data on the health damage caused by smoking.

            It was also clear to the public that this was not some kind of scam and that no one was going to profit from anti-smoking policies. That is, the public could clearly see that not only would Big Tobacco be finanacially damaged by the implementation of no-smoking rules, but that no company or institution would be aggrandized as a result of these new laws, become more profitable, or more powerful.

            This is entirely the opposite of what would happen with forced vaccination laws, wherein

            – Big Pharma and related government institutions, widely acknowledged as deeply dishonest, self-dealing, corrupt, and given to massive scientific frauds that have endangered the publich health for decades, would become more powerful, and

            – governments that enabled such laws would be given even more tyrannical powers.

            These outcomes are the absolute opposite of what happened with the anti-smoking laws.

            There are some other differences as well, but that is enough. Overall I think that it is clear that the anti-smoking laws are in no way analogous to any proposed “public health” laws such as forced vaccinations.

          • GreenAlba October 5, 2020 at 7:00 am #

            Well that was fascinating, but not for the content. More for the neat (well, frankly, a bit unsubtle, if we’re being honest) way the phrase ‘things like mask wearing and forced vaccination’ was used to segue into a diatribe about vaccination. And not just any kind of vaccination, but ‘forced’ vaccination.

            When no-one was talking about vaccination at all, let alone the molesting kind.

            That gets the Manipulative Suggestion Award of the year, along with the previous egregious examples of the same tactic.

            ‘Things like mask wearing and forced vaccination’ … Yes, that’s a great phrase.

            Like ‘things like white bread sandwiches and polonium soup’.

            Well, it’s a tactic, I suppose. And with the less bright sparks it may even work. Heck, it works all over the Interwebz.

  61. Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

    https://www.revolver.news/2020/10/biden-loving-general-is-deploying-military-grade-information-warfare-against-trump-supporters/

    He was against Obama and got thrown out of power. He learned his lesson and jettisoned his conscience. He didn’t like being out of power. Conscience is a big nuisance.

  62. Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

    Let White Men Know

    I have given my life to try to alleviate the sufferings of Africa.

    There is something that all white men who have lived here like I have, must learn and know; that these individuals are a sub-race; they have neither the intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate or share equally with the white man in any of the functions of our civilisation.

    I have given my life to try to bring unto them the advantages which our civilisation must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status: white the superior and they the inferior. For whenever a white man seeks to live among them as equals they will either destroy him or devour him and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing relationship or for any benefit to these people let white men from anywhere in the world who would come to help Africa, remember to continually retain his status: you are the master and they the inferior like children that you would help and teach.

    Never fraternise with them as equals, never accept them as your social equals, or they will devour you, they will destroy you.

    Dr Albert Schweitzer – Nobel Peace Prize Winner 1952.

    From “African Notebook” 1939

    SV: He was a polymath. A concert pianist and a Kantean scholar. He gave it all up to become a doctor and serve Black Africans. Did he regret it in his later years? Almost sound like he did, but obviously I can’t be sure. Christians do lots of strange things at the prompting of the spirit. The point is that he didn’t deny what he had learned, even if he never regretted his choice.

    • SpeedyBB October 4, 2020 at 10:14 pm #

      Re: the Albert Schweitzer passage Janos quoted

      I do wonder how TPTB managed to bury that one or explain it away. Apparently the good doctor had never visited the wondrous Wakanda.

      Black Africa is an ongoing horror – and has the highest birth rate on the planet.

      I say give the PRC a chance to run it. The Chinese “investors” could do no worse than the Africans themselves, even though their objective is clearly to exploit its resources.

  63. Kawika October 4, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

    There are several things I like to say about Trump, and here they are:

    1. Trump is a con man, and the US (not America) is a con, so he is the perfect person to lead the ‘country’ (I don’t really feel that the US is a country in the normal sense, and has not been in decades – it is merely a set of interconnected rackets and profit-skimming operations; it does not have a common culture, a common set of ideals, or really much of anything in common, aside from all agreeing that money is the highest and really the only goal, and technology will help us get it).

    2. Trump achieved more in 1 night than any other president in my lifetime: he decimated not just one, but both corrupt political parties. Neither the GOP nor the Dems really can be said to truly exist any longer, and it’s high time.

    3. Trump is an ugly face on an ugly system, as opposed to Obama (or even Biden), who are pretty faces on an ugly system. Trump has caused ‘damage’ to the US image abroad, and I say ‘Hurrah!’ Whatever de-legitimizes the US Empire is good for Americans and the world.

    4. Trump is in essence the most honest president in my lifetime. Hold on, and read what I have to say… I don’t really see his lies as lies, but rather as bullshit. A lie is when I say something I know to be false and hope you will swallow it. Bullshit is when both you and I know that an assertion is false, but we play along just for show/optics, etc. On things that are unimportant, like his popularity or attendance number or what have you, he bullshits from morning to dusk, and then continues through the wee hours. So, I see him as a Bullshit Artist. But on the two or three most important issues, he say the things no-one in a position of power is supposed to say. Things like ‘these foreign wars were a huge mistake in terms of blood and treasure, we should not be in these countries and never should have been’. Things like “America is bankrupt’ (he of course doesn’t say that anymore, but kudos for saying it at all). And for confronting people and ideas than need to be confronted, like Neocon warmongerers, Maoist academics, white suburban BLM phonies, Cancel Culture, Islamic extremism, Mexican gangs, etc.

    That being said, I certainly plan to vote for Trump next month. The alternative is just too frightening…

    • Kawika October 4, 2020 at 2:05 pm #

      I disagree with Trump more often than I agree (he even disagrees with himself rather often). I dislike 75% of his foreign policy, at least when it comes to Israel, Saudi Arabia, and especially Venezuela (I don’t know if their system is good or bad, and frankly I don’t care – it’s their goddam business). But Trump is the first president in recent memory (going back to maybe Jimmy Carter, and before that back to Grover Cleveland) who did not start a war. Now he certainly made lots of bluster with Kim Jong Eun (after buttering him up), and has increased tensions with China more than I think he should, and blundered by assassinating that Iranian dude. But, he maintained some sort of conversation/detente with Russia, the country with the most nuclear weapons aimed at US soil, so this seems sane to me. A lot of what the Dems spew at Trump seems to be projection, such as when they call him crazy – I think they are not only insane, but criminally so, as they are pushing the world closer to nuclear armageddon for their own narrow political interests. (Trump may be an idiot, but crazy or mentally unstable he is not.) Also, Trump seems to support ISIS somewhat less than Obama did, although we may never really know what goes on in Syria…

    • Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 2:09 pm #

      Well said. Most of his appointees are monsters though – like the director of the FBI who thinks White Patriots are number one problem in America. Of course they are – to the Swamp.

      In any case, the reign of Bullshit was bound to fail sooner or later. What better way than to have a Bullshit Artist tear it down?

  64. tucsonspur October 4, 2020 at 4:06 pm #

    I hope this makes believers of the White House. Too much national security depends on these folks to have all of them come down with the crud. JAZ

    Trump and his handling of the virus, his cavalier attitude towards it, has endangered the nation. Is it three Senators now ill with the virus?
    Will there be more? It’s not much of a stretch to say we could lose both the Senate and the presidency because of Trump’s bumbling.

    We may not get our Supreme Court nominee. Even though it may not happen, we’re coming too close to losing Everything because of Trump’s wimpy handling of the Wuhan.

    Trump did some good things. What good is it when it could all be erased after one term? Someone once said that when the sky is falling they take cover under bullshit. Word, man, word.

    • JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 6:05 pm #

      Your hindsight is amazing. 20/20

      In February when the crud was taking off, there was not a single story from anybody. In Trump’s position he had people saying it was not transmittable human to human, that it was going away in the summer, no one seemed to know how it transferred, ie nobody knew anything about it. Failing said, wear masks, then not wear masks, then oh my God, wear masks. Trump ran with the story he thought was correct, minimum impact to the economy. He, under much guidance and support from staff, made a bad estimation of the situation. In hindsight.

      Trump shut down the incoming people from China and Europe and probably saved lots of folks. The Deep State response was that he was racist and a xenophobe.

      His continued support of the let ‘er rip cadre has been a huge mistake and it may cost him the election. His daring the virus to invade the White House was a colossal blunder.

      It did!

      • tucsonspur October 4, 2020 at 8:18 pm #

        What about my foresight? But okay, like I said, you didn’t have to be a genius to see this coming.

    • JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 6:22 pm #

      One question Tucson. What would you have done different? Shutdown the country? Open it up and ignore the crud? You wanted Trump to not be wimpy, okay, by doing what?

      The blame game is something I do not believe in. Mistakes are when something does not come off as planned. Learn from “mistakes” and go on. Blame finding is BS.

      • tucsonspur October 4, 2020 at 7:37 pm #

        I think that an initial shutdown was okay, maybe a little longer, BUT with everybody following what was known to be helpful, if not totally effective, guidelines.

        Less wimpy is easy. Better use of the DPA, and making a strong recommendation to governors to require mask wearing.
        Don’t belittle testing and contact tracing.

        Most of all, don’t deceive the American public and play down the dangers of the virus.

        It’s not blame finding. It’s telling where the leadership and responsibility should have resided.

  65. tucsonspur October 4, 2020 at 4:43 pm #

    “The WHO created confusion yesterday when it reported that asymptomatic patients rarely spread the disease,” an email from the Harvard Global Health Institute said Tuesday. “All of the best evidence suggests that people without symptoms can and do readily spread SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. In fact, some evidence suggests that people may be most infectious in the days before they become symptomatic — that is, in the presymptomatic phase when they feel well, have no symptoms, but may be shedding substantial amounts of virus.”

    The jury is still out on asymptomatic transmission:

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/

    The covid is crushing us because of Trump’s callosity, he just couldn’t calibrate the consequences, contemplate the casualties.

    His narcissistic ego tried to control the deadly covid chariot, only to catastrophically careen into a chasm of chaos.

    Trump was filled with too much Norman Vincent Peale and Roy Cohn, and a money magnified, distorted sense of his own measure of merit.

    • Night Owl October 4, 2020 at 5:26 pm #

      Someone has been on a Daily Beast bender.

      The Corona Hoax.

      • JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 6:11 pm #

        A hoax to all that have not gotten it.

        • Night Owl October 4, 2020 at 6:21 pm #

          A pneumonia to those that have. Fear porn for the weak of mind.

    • SoftStarLight October 4, 2020 at 5:32 pm #

      DJT will defeat covid and everything is going to be ok. I’m not going to allow negative emotions to get me down and you shouldn’t either. So what if he is a narcissistic egoist. Sometimes that is needed. Better to have that then someone who would have folded more to the enemy. Who btw wants everything shut down forever ok. Anyway I’m sorry ahead of time because I’m not trying to minimize your thoughts and concerns. But everything may turn out fine and may even turn in an unexpected direction in our favor.

      • JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 6:17 pm #

        Think of the list of narcissistic presidents. Start with Obama, Clinton, Reagan, LBJ, Kennedy, Nixon. You have to be an egotist to tolerate that job. Nice guys finish last as the Deep State eats their lunch. Why? Because the Deep State is comprised of the same sort of narcissists.

        Washington DC, the testing ground For narcissists.

        • Night Owl October 4, 2020 at 6:23 pm #

          Trump doesn’t display malignant narcissistic qualities. Those that know what narcissism is recognize it immediately.

      • tucsonspur October 4, 2020 at 7:41 pm #

        So what if he is a narcissistic egoist. Sometimes that is needed. SSL.

        Sometimes. But certainly not in this case.

    • Q. Shtik October 4, 2020 at 5:59 pm #

      His narcissistic ego tried to control the deadly covid chariot, only to catastrophically careen into a chasm of chaos. – tucson

      =========

      You are more obsessed with alliteration than I am with spelling……… but I like it.

    • JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 6:06 pm #

      Agreed.

      • tucsonspur October 4, 2020 at 7:59 pm #

        Thanks to both of you highly intelligent men.

    • SpeedyBB October 4, 2020 at 11:09 pm #

      Norman Vincent Peale and Roy Cohn. Talk about an Odd Couple.

  66. cc rider October 4, 2020 at 5:43 pm #

    I posted this on Friday:

    “Of course there’s no doubt that Trump, his wife, and Hope Hicks are all doing the hydroxychloroquine + zinc treatment right now. My bet is that it will be successful in keeping all of them from getting really sick…..”

    My viewpoint has dramatically changed now on Sunday late afternoon. Obviously he has not been doing the hydroxychloroquine+zinc treatment. Probably because his doctor determined that the virus was already too far along for it to be effective. And I now suspect that he got a large viral load.

    Based on new evidence, as hard as that is to fully get, I now believe that there is a strong chance that he will not survive this infection with COVID 19. If he does survive it he will be far too weakened and sick to carry on in office. In other words, I think his presidency is most likely done for all intents and purposes.

    Boris Johnson, a man close to twenty years younger than Trump, almost died from COVID 19 himself. He was in intensive care for quite a few days. A whole week if I remember correctly. It was very touch and go at times.

    Suffice it to say, this is not good for Trump. I’m not happy about it at all because I don’t like to see any president die in office. And, again, even if he doesn’t pass this month or next he’ll be weakened to the point of not being able to discharge his duties. It stands to reason what this will mean for his re-election chances, which are not good.

    • JohnAZ October 4, 2020 at 6:10 pm #

      Uh, he has left the hospital and gone back to the WH this afternoon. Still under treatment but out of danger.

      My hope is that the experimental treatments he got will be given to the world. Trump got a heavy dose, reacted badly, was treated and apparently has gotten most of the way back.

      Already.

      • GreenAlba October 4, 2020 at 7:19 pm #

        “My hope is that the experimental treatments he got will be given to the world.”

        As I understand it, he was given dexamethasone. Evidence that dexamethasone helps Covid patients experiencing breathing difficulties was given to the world by the UK’s ‘Recovery’ trial.

        And you’re very welcome. Also, we won’t hold all the bloviating against ‘socialised medicine’ against you in these troubled times. 🙂

        • GreenAlba October 5, 2020 at 10:11 am #

          I should have said dexamethasone CAN help Covid patients experiencing breathing difficulties.

          From what I recall of the trial results, about 20% or so of patients were helped by it. Twenty percent is a proportion that gets scientists excited, because it’s ‘significant’, but it doesn’t mean any particular individual will necessarily be helped by dexamethasone. It’s just an extra chance of a good outcome. I was underwhelmed at the time because I’m not an experimental scientist, so my thoughts remained with the 80% who weren’t helped by it.

      • readfreak October 4, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

        No, he took a joyride and is back in the hospital.

        • cc rider October 4, 2020 at 7:54 pm #

          Yeah. Trump is NOT back in the WH. JohnAZ is reading fake news somewhere. He literally took a “joyride”, and I have to say that is really stupid. It is his cavalier stupidity and obsession to appear strong and healthy that will end up killing him. He wanted to drive by his fans outside the hospital, and of course in so doing he’s putting Secret Service agents at risk of infection.

          I’ve given Trump kudos whenever I thought kudos were due, but I’ll call him a fool if he’s being foolish. And he’s been very foolish for about a week now when he knew the virus was in the WH.

          • benr October 4, 2020 at 8:35 pm #

            Or he really feels fine.

          • Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 9:06 pm #

            He was wearing his MASK as were they. It’s their job to take reasonable risks or even unreasonable ones.

            He’s not very sick so why shouldn’t he come and out and wave at people?

          • Q. Shtik October 4, 2020 at 11:43 pm #

            He’s not very sick – Sred

            ===========

            And you know this how?

            Because he says so? Ha haha ha. Let’s be real… we have no idea about this or just about anything.

    • tucsonspur October 4, 2020 at 7:54 pm #

      I think you are right about his re-election chances, cc.

  67. Q. Shtik October 4, 2020 at 6:26 pm #

    As we all know, the NYT reported that “Trump’s taxes show chronic losses and years of income tax avoidance.”

    I’m not an expert on tax law so maybe someone can tell me, is it illegal to avoid taxes? If so the IRS should be advised that I have been trying to avoid taxes on all 62 years on which I’ve had taxable income. Isn’t this what every sane person does?

    • John1945 October 4, 2020 at 8:56 pm #

      There are 2 different legal concepts: “tax evasion” and “tax avoidance”.
      Tax evasion is bad,very very bad.
      Tax avoidance is sort of good for you health but un-patriotic 🙂
      I am an avid reader of Internal Revenue Manual,primarily chapters “Examination”,” Collection” and “Criminal Investigation”.
      Those guys are amazing and,in teen-speak, totally awesome.
      To be more precise,not those faceless GS-7 guys & girls but their TTP-Tactics,Techniques and Procedures.

      • elysianfield October 4, 2020 at 9:19 pm #

        John,
        In a few words, could you define “recapture”? The concept? The reality?

        • John1945 October 4, 2020 at 9:37 pm #

          I do apologize for not being more specific.

          Tax avoidance is the legal usage of the tax regime in a single territory to one’s own advantage to reduce the amount of tax that is payable by means that are within the law. Tax sheltering is very similar. Tax havens are jurisdictions which facilitate reduced taxes.

          Tax evasion is the illegal evasion of taxes by individuals, corporations, and trusts. Tax evasion often entails taxpayers deliberately misrepresenting the true state of their affairs to the tax authorities to reduce their tax liability and includes dishonest tax reporting, such as declaring less income, profits or gains than the amounts actually earned, or overstating deductions.

          I was especially impressed with part of IRM Manual dealing with how they choose people for audits.In very broad terms what matters most is 2 things:amount of unpaid taxes to be ACTUALLY recovered and you readiness to cooperate.

          Thats why IRS is not interestes in friendly homeless people,lawyered-up billionaries living offshore and wholesale drug dealers 🙂

          • Q. Shtik October 4, 2020 at 10:55 pm #

            Tax avoidance is the legal usage of the tax regime in a single territory to one’s own advantage to reduce the amount of tax that is payable by means that are within the law. – John1945

            =======

            And so, John, given what you have just said ^above^ it was the cheapest of cheap shots by the NYT to even mention the term tax avoidance. They were deliberately trying to give the typically tax-non-expert reader the impression that ‘avoidance’ is illegal. As stated earlier I have been trying to avoid taxes all my life. Put me in cuffs and take me away.

          • John1945 October 4, 2020 at 11:36 pm #

            =Put me in cuffs and take me away.=

            Thats the Spirit !!!

            “Take me to the Brig. I want to see the REAL MARINES !.”
            Major General Chesty Puller, USMC

            🙂 🙂 🙂

          • GreenAlba October 5, 2020 at 8:53 am #

            “They were deliberately trying to give the typically tax-non-expert reader the impression that ‘avoidance’ is illegal. ”

            Maybe they were just giving the impression that he puts his own interests over those of his country, while bloviating about patriotism? Maybe patriotism is just for the little people, as well as taxes. The big house he’s currently living and working in is maintained out of taxes (that the little people pay), as are his expenses, even when he just fancies a round of golf.

            Like when he had (has?) his products manufactured in China, Mexico, Honduras, Bangladesh etc., which isn’t and wasn’t illegal either but it certainly didn’t do any Americans any good. The ones who bought his pricey shirts and ties could still have bought them at American-labour prices.

            And the bit of his tax affairs that involved paying Ivanka huge consultancy fees while she was employed by his company may well be tax fraud.

    • elysianfield October 4, 2020 at 9:28 pm #

      Q,
      You are, or have been, a CPA, Yes? What do you know about “Forensic Accounting”? I have nothing but respect for those that are able to stare at P/L’s, balance sheets, quarterly reports and other lies and come to the truth of the matter. I have no idea how the hell it is done, other than “follow the money” type suggestions.

      Can the truly clever get away with cooking the books, or is it the stupid ones that always get caught?

      (Asking for a friend…)

      • John1945 October 4, 2020 at 9:52 pm #

        If you dont mind my butting in-why dont you visit your local library and borrow “Forensic Accounting for Dummies” ?

        At least you’ll get the Big Bicture.

        • elysianfield October 5, 2020 at 11:36 am #

          John,
          does that book really exist? Will check online, and purchase one if available.

      • Q. Shtik October 4, 2020 at 11:08 pm #

        Q,
        You are, or have been, a CPA, Yes? – ely

        ========

        No. I have a bachelor of science majoring in Accounting and an MBA in Finance but never a CPA. I have no knowledge of “Forensic Accounting” per se but I’d guess my many years of auditing comes close.

        • John1945 October 4, 2020 at 11:54 pm #

          =Forensic Accounting”

          Nowadays it is primarily done by the very sophisticated and very expensive AI-based software which has access to every kind of records,including one’s emails and text messages.

          Strong encryption and crypto currencies threw a wrench into this smoothly operating machine.

          If you google “biggest bitcoin wallet” you’ll see top wallet holding $2.6B.Second biggest wallet holding $2.2B

          Then $100M out of this wallet are exchanged for Monero.And Monero is a black hole.Thats why IRS offered $640K to crack Monero but thank you,no takers.I am getting high from Schadenfreude.

          Like in good old times, to avoid being charged with “fraudulent transfer of assets”, you go to Las Vegas,empty your accounts and buy $5K platinum casino chips.

          Oh,and next day you seek treatment for gambling addiction which must be properly documented 🙂

        • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2020 at 6:17 pm #

          “Years of auditing” — Q

          Holy sh#t you were even a ball buster in real life!!

          Brh

  68. getsome October 4, 2020 at 6:40 pm #

    Kawika: Your analysis of the president’s actions re all former occupants of said office is brilliant! His bringing together the formerly disparate segments of our “society” into a controllable (by him only) voting bloc greatly threatens the mainly democratic Deep State. Being comprised to a large degree of white folks would somewhat explain the current “white people devils” narrative being pushed. The powers that are conducting this foray into chaos take note; If the deplorables ever reach consensus on the real enemy depriving them of their former “life”, it will be magnitudes greater destructive power focused on any identified Deep Stater. Some of us actually have touched the Tiger. Nuff said.

  69. Q. Shtik October 4, 2020 at 7:34 pm #

    A headline today says “Trump stricken with Covid 19, DOW futures rise 100 + points.” What should we conclude from this?

    • tucsonspur October 4, 2020 at 7:52 pm #

      That it’s all gone batshit crazy!

    • cc rider October 4, 2020 at 8:09 pm #

      100 pts is absolutely nothing in today’s market. A mere blip. Now back in the 1980s and earlier 100 pts moving in either direction would’ve been noteworthy. Divide 100 by today’s DOW average. It is nothing.

      But, it is perfectly normal for the DOW to go up or down a bit because of current news. But then it resumes its “behavior”, whether in a bull or bear market. I expect it to mostly go sideways this month. If Trump dies or has to leave office due to illness then it’ll go down probably a few thousand points. Maybe. But then it’ll rebound until the bubble finally pops. Probably next year, or the next.

      • Q. Shtik October 5, 2020 at 12:45 am #

        100 pts is absolutely nothing in today’s market. A mere blip. – cc rider

        ===========

        Very true.

        My comment could have been funny if it read: “Trump stricken with Covid 19, DOW futures rise 2000 points.”

  70. benr October 4, 2020 at 8:33 pm #

    Can we discuss the elephant in the room?

    Covid and our morbidly obese President.
    Word is he is being released from the hospital on Monday.
    If true this is yet another indication that in most cases this virus is not near as devastating to the average American as they have been hyping it up to be.
    Time to move on from the narrative and enough of the mask bullshit already.

    • cc rider October 4, 2020 at 8:47 pm #

      If Trump leaves the hospital on Monday it will be because he insists on being released. It won’t be because he is discharged per doctor’s recommendations or direction. He’ll then be right back in, or be dead.

      Today I think I know why he felt good enough to go on his little “joy ride” to show his supporters he’s “well”. He was given the steroid dexamethasone. Even when quite ill it can temporarily make you feel good. A month ago my Dad was hospitalized with Sepsis and almost died. He’s been on prescription steroids for many years due to Addison’s Disease, which John F. Kennedy had, btw. (Addison’s destroys the adrenal glands which is why you have to take steroids in order to live. This is why JFK went from being quite thin like his brother RFK to being bulked up with a thicker neck). Anyway, long story short, my Dad’s doctor temporarily quadrupled his steroid intake in order to help his body handle the stress of being in such bad shape with the Sepsis. He quickly felt much, much better. Stronger even. I’m betting this happened with Trump today.

      From the LA Times today:

      “Like other steroids, dexamethasone can have significant side effects that could have an impact on Trump’s ability to work. Those can include irritability, mood swings and trouble sleeping, according to medical experts. By reducing fever and discomfort, it can also make patients feel temporarily better even if their illness and risk haven’t changed, Dr. Robert M. Wachter, head of the Department of Medicine at UC San Francisco, said on Twitter.”

      I believe this is going to ultimately do Trump in. Maybe not right away, but due to his cavalier Benr type mentality probably will be pretty soon. If not, complications from COVID will keep dogging him until it finally kills him. He has several risk factors. And I believe he has had a mini-stroke or two that he has successfully kept hidden from the public.

      From the same LA Times article:

      “The disclosure that Trump is receiving dexamethasone is a clear signal that his illness is a serious one, said Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health. In an interview Saturday, Jha said he would watch for use of dexamethasone, which would be a “very clear signal that he has a more severe disease.””

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/trump-receiving-powerful-lung-drug-doctors-disclose-revealing-more-serious-symptoms/ar-BB19GQAM

      • benr October 5, 2020 at 12:22 am #

        Your first mistake is reading the LA times and msnbc and the second is believing anything the say about Trump.
        Trump is a serious germaphobe and in being so a fair chance of also being a hypochondriac.

        My conspiracy theory is he does not have covid and is pretending so he can say see HCQ , zinc, and this other stuff works.

        • Q. Shtik October 5, 2020 at 12:30 am #

          My conspiracy theory is he does not have covid and is pretending so he can say see HCQ , zinc, and this other stuff works. – benr

          =========

          And the fact that all those other people were infected simultaneously was nothing more than a huge co-inky-dink.

          • benr October 5, 2020 at 9:34 am #

            I would have said not my belief just putting out what someone will say very soon and whamo someone on MSNBC is actually saying it.

      • Night Owl October 5, 2020 at 5:48 am #

        You have been lied to on an unprecedented scale for some 4 years now by the sources you cite.

        Yet, you act as if the information they are providing you here is accurate.

        LOL.

        Just beyond parody.

    • Q. Shtik October 4, 2020 at 11:35 pm #

      Covid and our morbidly obese President. – benr

      ==========

      Google the term morbidly obese for a definition. I doubt that Trump is technically MO. Now, the woman in the house next door to me is another proposition and her 22 year old daughter is well on her way, too.

      • benr October 5, 2020 at 12:24 am #

        Yea Q I know it was fodder for the fools.

    • GreenAlba October 5, 2020 at 9:42 am #

      “If true this is yet another indication that in most cases this virus is not near as devastating to the average American as they have been hyping it up to be.”

      It’s not actually an indication of anything at all, other than that Trump (if he is released) is lucky not to have had as bad a dose as Boris. And is lucky to have had it in October and not in March/April, when much less was known about effective ways to treat it.

      Why do people keep wanting to infer things that aren’t inferable?

      In most cases the virus is not devastating. That, all by itself, is a fact.

      If Trump were to die of it, it would still be a fact. And yet people want to link the two things, as if a 74-year-old man carrying too much weight was ‘the average American’. Or as if a very rich and powerful man with the best healthcare money and status can buy is the same as the ‘average American’. Or indeed as if anyone’s personal reaction to anything were necessarily typical or ‘average’.

      Somebody on here suggested a few days ago that this site is awash with false reasoning. He wasn’t kidding.

      I continue to *believe* Trump will be perfectly fine (without any particular evidence, other than that rich, powerful people tend to get the best treatment for pretty much anything and have better health outcomes than, say, poor people). But it won’t tell you anything one way or the other about Covid and ‘average Americans’ that we don’t know already.

      Likewise if he were to die (which he won’t – well not at the moment anyway) – that wouldn’t tell us anything either, and people hyperventilating about how dangerous Covid is because Trump died of it would be demonstrating an equal penchant for false reasoning.

      • benr October 7, 2020 at 8:56 am #

        More to the point its about hope.
        I am sick unto death of masks, social distancing and panicking morons.
        I want to see kids out being kids playing.
        I want the damn beaches to go back to normal where people are actually at work working so I can have a moment of peace on a Tuesday afternoon without the parking lot being jammed full of people who should be at work or school.
        I want to go for a swim when I want to in the pool and work out in the gym. The pool is by appointment only and only has three time slots 10am – 4:00pm only.
        The gym is still closed and our bbq pits are as well.
        What we are going through is not how life in modern society is supposed to be.
        This for all practical terms is largely political and the one country that just lived through it is now on the other side and back to normal life.
        Sweden had it right all along.

  71. elysianfield October 4, 2020 at 9:10 pm #

    A big break in the Case!

    UPI, reports, this PM, that there was a video that captured the assault on Rick Moranis…and the description of the assailant, clearly seen on video, has been upgraded to…”a man”.

    In law enforcement circles, we call that a “clue”….

    • Kim October 5, 2020 at 3:59 am #

      There was a stabbing on the subway yesterday. The New York Post made it very clear that the suspect was a “blonde man”.

      The headline might have read, in 48 point type, “At long last…!”

  72. Sredni Vashtar October 4, 2020 at 9:41 pm #

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/ahead-of-november-election-growing-numbers-of-jews-consider-leaving-us/

    Huge numbers of Jews are beginning to bags after Hitler/Trump refused to condemn the Proud Boys. They don’t want to get caught behind enemy lines!

    Needless to say, the Proud Boys repudiate White Nationalism what to speak of Nazism. There is a Proud Boys chapter in Israel. The whole thing is probably controlled by Jews, like similar things in England. Their meme of “Western Chauvinism” is suspicious – not the way guys like this think or talk.

    Can’t Israel call these people and tell them to stop freaking out?

    • Kim October 4, 2020 at 11:24 pm #

      There are very few “nationalist” or “patriot” organizations that are not fronts for people with entirely the opposite goals.

      How many “natiionaist” or”patriot” organizations call for Trump to flood the country with low-wage-visa replacements for the US middle class?

    • Q. Shtik October 4, 2020 at 11:52 pm #

      (pack their)

      • SoftStarLight October 5, 2020 at 9:48 am #

        The Proud Boys are actually just BLM in a different outfit. They are actually “anti-racists”. Which means they are essentially anti-White. So good luck with the whole protecting Western civ thing. And chauvinists don’t call themselves chauvinists. They just are what they are. That is another sign that Proud Boys are fake news. They are probably an intelligence operation of the truth be known.

  73. Q. Shtik October 5, 2020 at 12:21 am #

    NYT op-ed columnist, Nicholas Kristof had a funny bit in his piece on Sunday………

    after the announcement that they had tested positive for the coronavirus, I tweeted that I hope we can all remain civil, avoid snark, seek lessons and wish the Trumps a swift recovery. The result was an outpouring of gloating and snark — one person responded that “my thoughts and prayers go out to the virus.”

  74. Christoph Becker October 5, 2020 at 12:35 am #

    To me, the news that Trump got Covid-19 was inspiration to write him a letter with some interesting news and facts about Covid-19: https://www.freizahn.de/2020/10/dear-mr-president/

    My conclusion is, that the pandemic can still be ended before the the election on Nov. 3, 2020.

  75. Kim October 5, 2020 at 3:56 am #

    How vulnerable are people to even the most absurd and transparent bullshit? How easily are they hoodwinked?

    How much of people’s political beliefs are reason-based, or based on some ethics, or experience, or even mere pragmatism, and how much is nothing more than an expression of a desire to belong to a group, or to follow a leader or an ideal?

    This documentary does not paint a pretty picture of human credulity and the herd impulse and confirms me in my disbelief in any and all ideologies:

    https://yts.mx/movies/going-clear-scientology-the-prison-of-belief-2015

  76. benr October 5, 2020 at 9:18 am #

    Yep knew this was coming even posted somewhere on here it was coming.

    UNREAL! MSNBC’s Joy Reid Suggests Trump Faking Positive Covid Test | Saturday LIVE Stream

    • SoftStarLight October 5, 2020 at 9:46 am #

      They are doing this because they know the optics are ultimately terrible for them. DJT catches and gets over corona and comes out swinging as he always does. This is going to put his poll numbers through the roof in reality but of course fakestream will continue to say Biden is 14 points ahead. Like Hillary was 🙂

      • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2020 at 6:11 pm #

        Yeah SSL, that was the news today, down 14 pts and the campaign out of money.

        Discouraging to say the least.

        We’ll see, when things begin to go bad for the Biden admin, whether or not the media takes him to task, or runs flak and provides cover for him.

  77. redrock October 5, 2020 at 11:07 am #

    WHERE IS TODAYS MISSIVE? I AM HAVING WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS.

  78. BackRowHeckler October 5, 2020 at 5:33 pm #

    For Columbus Day, a nice paella, cannoli for dessert, washed down with a tall glass of Sangria. I’ve got a few Spanish flags around here — Franco, Monarchist, Basque, National … hoist one up the pole right underneath old Glory.

    Who’s with me??!!!

    Brh

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