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It remains to be seen what the impact will be from Mother Nature putting the nation’s fourth largest city out-of-business. And for how long? It’s possible that Houston will never entirely recover from Hurricane Harvey. The event may exceed the physical damage that Hurricane Katrina did to New Orleans. It may bankrupt large insurance companies and dramatically raise the risk of doing business anywhere along the Gulf and Atlantic coasts of the USA — or at least erase the perceived guarantee that losses are recoverable. It may even turn out to be the black swan that reveals the hyper-fragility of a US-driven financial system.

Houston also happens to be the center of the US oil industry. Offices can be moved elsewhere, of course, but not so easily the nine major oil refineries that sprawl between Buffalo Bayou over to Beaumont, Port Arthur, and then Lake Charles, Louisiana. Harvey is inching back out to the Gulf where it will inhale more energy over the warm ocean waters and then return inland in the direction of those refineries.

The economic damage could be epic. Much of the supply for the Colonial Pipeline system emanates from the region around Houston, running through Atlanta and clear up to Philadelphia and New York. There could be lines at the gas stations along the eastern seaboard in early September.

The event is converging with the US government running out of money this fall without new authority to borrow more by congress voting to raise the US debt ceiling. Perhaps the emergency of Hurricane Harvey and its costly aftermath will bludgeon congress into quickly raising the debt ceiling. If that doesn’t happen, and the debt ceiling is not raised, the federal government might have to pretend that it can pay for emergency assistance to Texas and Louisiana. That pretense can only go so far before government contractors balk and maybe even walk.

Ordinarily, failure to raise the debt ceiling would lead to a government shut-down, including hurricane recovery operations, unless the president invoked some kind of emergency powers. That would be decisive action, but it could also be the beginning of something that looks like a full-out dictatorship. Powers assumed are often not surrendered when the original emergency is over. And what would the president use for money if a substantial enough number of congresspersons and senators are prompted by their distaste for Mr. Trump to drag out the process of financially re-liquefying the government? (And nevermind even passing a budget.)

Meanwhile, two other major sources of aggravation are waiting off-stage: one is North Korea. Why wouldn’t Kim Jong-un use the opportunity of political disarray in the US to create more headaches for a distracted US government? Never let a crisis go to waste. Another potential irritant is the return of students to American college campuses. Imagine how the campus Antifa forces would react to Mr. Trump assuming emergency powers. It’s easy to foresee an acceleration of violence between the extreme Left and the Extreme right during what is shaping up to look like a major crisis in governing. If the campus Left had any tactical brains, they’d stop marching around in black uniforms and instead organize a mass renunciation of college loan debt.

Behind all this political strife will be wobbling financial markets. The message from the debt ceiling stalemate to the bond market would be that the US can no longer be relied on to pay its debts. Interest rates on US Treasury paper would have to go up as the long-lost concept of risk returned to the bond scene. People and institutions will not be induced to hold bonds unless the yield is recalibrated to the actual risk. Of course, in the mysterious world of bonds (i.e. securitized debt), the price of bonds goes down as interest rates rise. Meaning a lot of current holders of bonds would be hammered if they tried to sell. Rates rising would also spell big trouble for corporations and governments who have to make regular interest payments to bond-holders. A rate rise to as little as 3 percent on US Treasury bonds could spin the country into comprehensive bankruptcy.

How might stock markets and currency markets react to the scenario above? To me it would look like a drop of at least 1000 points on the S & P. The US dollar might actually rise initially as a whole lot of debt is renounced — which makes money actually disappear — but then you have the Federal Reserve waiting on another flank to roll out their own emergency response: Quantitative Easing No. 4, flooding the system with new “money” that has all the appearance and none of the mojo of value, tanking the dollar anew. As a wise correspondent of mine wrote a while back: “financialization is nothing more than money with its value removed.” (Graham Reinders.)

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460 Responses to “When the Butterfly Flaps Its Wings”

  1. Walter B August 28, 2017 at 9:44 am #

    Quite the dose of morning Doom, but then again, not doom so much as reality. Planning for less than ideal future events may be considered negative or doomsaying by the general populace, but it is critical to plan for the proverbial rainy day when planning is being done by those of us who are charged with such responsibilities. The fact that for the past few decades those tasked with looking and planning ahead chose rather to loot, pillage, and strip the nation of any real savings as well as the financial abilities to recover from such as is happening is a real shame and damned criminal as well. Brace yourselves there are rough roads ahead.

    • CancelMyCard August 28, 2017 at 10:09 am #

      The prophet is never respected in his own country.

      Ask any of us who have been preparing for disaster, what our friends and families have said over these past years.

      But . . . some of them are becoming fearful of the imminent disasters that await us all . . . and a few are starting to listen.

      • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 10:51 am #

        When we had “P’ Nights on Windjammer Cruises, prophets were always the most popular character chosen.

      • lsjogren August 28, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

        Only a few anticipate looming disasters, and even among those, most anticipate ones that are the least likely.

    • ozone August 28, 2017 at 11:02 am #

      Walter B,
      I certainly agree.

      “… it is critical to plan for the proverbial rainy day when planning is being done by those of us who are charged with such responsibilities.”

      As to that, I’d like to add that, in the longest run, we’re also responsible for ourselves, and should plan accordingly. That means ignoring happy-talk from paid happy-talkers… which then means leaving that comfortable movie theater of the mind and thinking of/preparing for some uncomfortable realities… which means that denial is no longer an “option”. (…Which could be why most would rather keep the blinders on and hope and pray someone else will take care of them when a shit-hitting-the-fan moment arrives. Americans have been trained to be mental infants.)

      Thanks for the reminder of where we are, and just how we got here.

      • Walter B August 28, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

        Responsibility for ourselves – you can only guess at how marvelous it is for me to hear such words from people, thank you so much.

    • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 11:40 am #

      “The fact that for the past few decades those tasked with looking and planning ahead chose rather to loot, pillage, and strip the nation of any real savings as well as the financial abilities to recover from such as is happening is a real shame and damned criminal as well. Brace yourselves there are rough roads ahead.”

      Have you ever considered why Jeff Sessions doubled-down on the concepts of asset forfeiture and Marijuana criminality?

      There are currently dozens of states that allow marijuana for medical treatment, and five (at least) that allow recreational use and marijuana grow-for-use by individuals.

      The Federal Government, however, maintains that marijuana growing is a felony. Further, any property on which marijuana is found growing is subject to civil/criminal forfeiture…currently trillions of dollars of property could be at risk if the government so chose to exercise, what is now currently, and has been for years, the law of the land.

      But…they would not do this, because…THIS IS ‘MURICA, DAMMIT!

      • Walter B August 28, 2017 at 1:07 pm #

        Our very own Senator Cory Booker has already introduced “the Marijuana Justice Act” in the US Senate that calls for national legalization of weed. I have been told by Trenton politicians that Mary Jane has not only been planned to be legalized next year but the mechanics are already in place to start the deals rolling. My PD relatives tell me that they have been briefed that it will happen as early as January 2018. It is my guess that the feds will never cave but will withhold the right to Search & Seize as they see fit. There is too much money raked in by them this way for it to ever go national.

        I have absolutely NO issues morally with toking, munching, or consuming the once evil weed in any form. My problem is establishing another cash cow for the political hacks to raid once again for personal profit, and they will. No problems have even been solved by giving sellout politicians access to large sums of cash, sorry.

    • goat1001 August 28, 2017 at 9:52 pm #

      Ah, the “proverbial rainy day” has come literally to the people of South Texas. It will be interesting how the government (and insurance companies and oil companies) deals with what is shaping up to be the greatest natural disaster of all time.

    • ejhr August 29, 2017 at 8:43 am #

      At least The USA can pay its debts with NO PROBLEM! All the government has to do is scrap the debt ceiling and the fed can mark up the numbers in accounts there to reflect whatever the debt is. Remember they already did it in 2008-10 to the tune of $29 Trillion [!] and no one batted an eye over it. They have unlimited power to write cheques, thanks to the constitution!

      So whatever happens to force a catastrophe, it won’t be money wot does it!

    • Iananna August 31, 2017 at 4:41 pm #

      JHK – There seems to be a glitch with Kunstlercast #294, it can be listened to online but I depend on downloading so I can listen when working out in the fields.
      Has anyone else had a problem?

  2. DrTomSchmidt August 28, 2017 at 10:01 am #

    If the campus Left had any tactical brains, they’d stop marching around in black uniforms and instead organize a mass renunciation of college loan debt.

    Yes. As you write, anything goes and nothing matters. It’s easier to march and protest against the handful of Neo-Nazis than it is to do something about the structural problems in American society. Default on your student loans and you’ll be cut off from banking and the modern economy. A real “resistance” would welcome refugees from the dead debt economy and build a support structure for them.

    Freeing Debt slaves cannot be allowed to happen.

    • John Howard August 28, 2017 at 10:22 am #

      The government should get the schools to pay back their students loans. Don’t stick it to tax payers. Make the schools sell properties, cut professor pay and tap into their endowments.

      • shotho August 28, 2017 at 4:32 pm #

        Right! If students march to free themselves from their debt, then taxpayers should march to free themselves from paying for defaulted student loans.

  3. K-Dog August 28, 2017 at 10:06 am #

    Perhaps if rich people paid taxes ????????

    • benr August 28, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

      Globally bums begging for change in Americas streets are rich compared to half of the world.
      Who exactly is to determine who is rich and who is poor.
      Even the poor in America have big screen TV’s now!
      Be careful how you apply that rich/poor have and have not nonsense it can backfire really quick.

      • GreenAlba September 1, 2017 at 7:36 am #

        ‘Who exactly is to determine who is rich and who is poor.’

        I don’t know how things work in the ol’ US of A, but in most advanced countries we have a concept of ‘progressive’ taxation. That means the less you have the lower the rate you pay. A sliding scale of poor to rich isn’t a concept reasonably educated people have trouble with. So when Warren Buffet says, quite rightly, that it’s morally outrageous that his cleaner pays a higher rate of tax on her hard work than he pays on the benefits of what is basically educated gambling, he’s quite both honest and right.

        There was an economic report written a few years ago entitled ‘Spirit Level’. It demonstrated how economies like the US and (mine) the UK with higher levels of inequality are more dysfunctional and less happy societies EVEN FOR THOSE WHO HAVE MORE WEALTH. Societies which are more equal have happier citizens at all levels of wealth. It’s almost like human beings work better when they’re all working together – hey, what a radical notion! (Don’t tell Janos, your resident fascist – his poor head might explode.)

        Trying to explain this to Americans is like trying to ask them why a nation with more self-identifying ‘Christians’ than any other advanced nation believes the exact polar opposite of what their bible tells them, which is that ‘it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle’. They actually have motivational speakers making fortunes from telling the willing that God wants them to be rich (at the expense of everyone else, obviously – how very Christian). Not that I’m making a comment one way or the other on the implications of true Christian belief on an advanced economy but some internal consistency from US ‘Christians’ would be progress.

        Many of them, as they go to Church with guns in their pockets, are mostly concerned that their ‘neighbour’ (see parable of the Samaritan – Janos are you paying attention?), whom they have been instructed to love as they love themselves, doesn’t spend any of their taxes when they’re ill by having the kind of healthcare system that takes care of everyone when they’re at their most vulnerable without them losing the shirt off their back.
        Vast numbers of Amercans call that ‘socialism’ – educated nations call it ‘civilisation’. Chriistians should just think of it as Christian.

        • GreenAlba September 1, 2017 at 7:37 am #

          ‘both honest and right’ – delete ‘quite’…

          • GreenAlba September 1, 2017 at 7:54 am #

            And before those terrified even the word ‘equality’, a more equal society doesn’t mean the old USSR – it just means a less unequal one, so instead of someone earning 50 times your salary they may still earn 35 times your salary 🙂

    • Walter B August 28, 2017 at 3:59 pm #

      Who needs taxes when all they have to do is “print’ money? You know that National Debt of just about $20 trillion dollars? Why that is money that has already been spent without any taxes coming in to cover it. Why tax any of us if printing is all that has to be done in order to spend? What possible downside could there be to endless money printing (Quantitative Easing) (end sarcasm)?

  4. hmuller August 28, 2017 at 10:17 am #

    The San Francisco earthquake of 1906 forced many insurance companies to sell stocks to raise cash to pay claims. In 1907 a financial panic on Wall Street resulted. Will history repeat itself?

    With near zero interest rates, pension funds and insurance companies can only point to a precarious, overvalued, but rising stock market as an indicator of their financial soundness. If that goes, look out.

  5. Georges1202 August 28, 2017 at 10:26 am #

    Even the Orange Monster is not stupid enough to keep insisting on that idiotic Wall now…. Izzy?

    • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 10:42 am #

      Yes he izzy. The Orange One does not shudder or stutter in the face of good taste, moral rectitude, or bad breath. He just plows through them like a bad Charlie Brown character, a cross dressing hermaphrodite cross between Lucy and Linus, sadistic and smelly and reeking of self righteous piety and white privilege.

      • K-Dog August 28, 2017 at 10:55 am #

        A reasonable attempt to bottle the essence. Yet the manifestation of the orange one is an individual abomination and such group faults à la ‘white privilege’ is a dash perhaps of inappropriate spice. Narcissism, the orange ones excessive and erotic interest in himself and his visage is an individual and not a cultural affliction.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 12:28 pm #

          You’re kind of old to be Antifa, aren’t you? They are the paid attack dogs of the Establishment and you’re falling for it.

          • K-Dog August 28, 2017 at 4:03 pm #

            Radom ramblings by our resident racist. Perhaps Janos himself knows what warped thoughts his twisted brain recites, but of that I am not sure. For the rest of us it is certain gibberish.

      • lsjogren August 28, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

        And the Democrats are 100 times as fanatical and delusional as him.

        We are so screwed.

        • benr August 28, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

          Oh come on how can you say that….snicker.
          Yes they are but talk to any of them and they thin they are 100% in the right but if one steps back and tries to talk to them about common sense they all resort to tired DNC talking points and meme’s about everything.

        • Linda August 28, 2017 at 10:30 pm #

          Agreed Isjogren. The Democrats and their attack dog fascists who call themselves antifa are even more destructive, delusional, and fanatical then the Donald. We really are screwed.

    • cbeard August 28, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

      Your so called idiotic wall is the only way short of total militarization of the border, to control illegal immigration.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

      The cost of the Wall is small compared to the cost of illegal immigrants and their spawn. We have invaders stepping over the border, walking into hospitals, and demanding hospital care to give birth. The mother gets to stay and then they demand family reunification. It’s the scam of all scams.

      What can I say to you? Commonsense isn’t common.

      • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

        Numbers, numbers, numbers… The Rubicon Racist always overwhelms with numbers and then accuses others of using wrong numbers. What are the numbers Janos? Supply them. Make an argument. No matter how you slice it these people contribute to the economy. That makes them an asset not a liability. Yes they tax the healthcare system, but so do a lot of white, black, red and yellow people. Your stated facts are nothing of the kind. Show me the numbers, and I’ll show you the money.

        • benr August 28, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

          Seawolf they actually don’t pay federal taxes they don’t pay state taxes they pay consumption taxes or they have stolen someones identity and are causing them hell!
          They drive up the cost of everything they use.
          They use fake id’s to get services turned on and often don’t pay!
          When the service is shut off for non-payment they use another matricular consolar card!
          Yes there are some good people here working hard and sending money home but that still does not make up for the vast damage they do to our car insurance rates, electricity, water and infrastructure!
          I simply don’t understand people like you living in some alternate reality with zero common sense it’s like you have never had to earn a paycheck and work for a living.

          • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

            Again where are the numbers? A lot of them do pay taxes from what I understand. They pay their bills. They send their kids to school. They work hard. They obey the laws. The lazy Mexican is a myth. I’ve never seen one. Six Sigma, as my Chief Engineer used to say, is common sense. They contribute so much to GDP. There is a discrepancy between what they produce and fair market value of their labor. In other words you would pay a lot more for food then if they didn’t. You would pay a lot more for construction and lawn care if they didn’t. You can put a number on their healthcare costs. Do it. You only talk about the harm they do. Quantify it. Don’t tell me it is this and it is that. I know it’s this and that. Show me the numbers, or please STFU.

          • Linda August 28, 2017 at 10:36 pm #

            Agree with cbeard, benr, and even Janos – something I never thought I would do. I find Janos making more and more sense lately. The times we live in.

            I am a legal immigrant who came here when I was seven from The Netherlands with my family. We had to jump through hoops to come here and have been productive citizens since. I am appalled at the Left who think illegal invaders should be allowed to stay here and destroy our social safety net. Deport them.

            I’ve been a socialist most of my life. and I voted for Donald Trump. I am sick of this idiocy the Democrats are pushing down our throats. Be it Obamacare, TPP, and constant wars in countries we have no business in. Bah. We need to take care of Americans firsst.

          • benr August 28, 2017 at 11:36 pm #


            Why is it you tell us to show the number or stfu.
            Seems to me that is the equivalent of a child plugging their ears and yelling la la la la while they kick their feet and scream!
            I live in California and have seen first hand the welfare fraud, wic fraud, long lines in the ER (NO INSURANCE)massive scams many of them run.

            The true cost of illegal immigration.





            How much more you want?

          • Elrond Hubbard August 29, 2017 at 10:53 am #

            seawolf: “There is a discrepancy between what they produce and fair market value of their labor.”

            This is a very polite — almost Canadian, really — way of saying that illegal immigrants are economically exploited. That’s why so many were allowed in to begin with: so that wealthier sectors can profit off a docile underclass with sub-minimal rights. And I do mean docile: you keep your head down and don’t make waves when so much as a parking ticket can get you deported. The myth of illegal immigrants as a source of crime is a scurrilous fantasy of the Camp of the Saints variety.

            Linda: Illegal immigrants are being deported from the USA, and in large numbers. ICE conducted over 3.1 million deportations from 2008-2016 inclusive. If you hear people trying to tell you nothing is being done, they’re lying.

            The question is what to do about people who have been in the USA for longer periods — long enough to buy homes, start businesses, develop roots in the community, raise children. It’s not a matter of whether the southern border should be enforced or not — it is being enforced. The question is whether to uproot and forcibly eject up to 12 million people, many of them brought to the USA as small children who are Americans in every way except technically. The Democrats and Republicans were largely agreed that a path to citizenship was the most reasonable way to address the issue, but moderate Republicans have been held hostage to their bloodthirsty base who prefer the ethnic-cleansing option.

            And make no mistake, ethnic cleansing is exactly what it would amount to, and the Camp of the Saints crowd demand no less. Hard as it may be for some to swallow, a path to citizenship is far to be preferred to a crime against humanity.

        • DrTomSchmidt August 28, 2017 at 4:03 pm #

          How about this:

          “In 2016, there were 8.9 million households headed by a non-citizen. Almost 42 percent of those households received some type of assistance… According to the NAS, 41.8 percent of native households and 55.8 percent of immigrant households receive assistance.”

          In sum, immigrant households are more likely than native households to be sucking off the public teat.

          But wait, there’s more! https://gborjas.org/2016/09/21/nas3/
          “Nationwide, the typical immigrant generates a fiscal shortfall at the state-local level of $1,600 annually. There are 36.1 million such first-generation “households” (see Table 9-13 in the report), so that the total shortfall is over $57 billion (or $1,600 times 36.1 million). This is how the report describes that finding:

          First generation independent person units (which include first and second generation children assigned to independent first generation persons) cost the states on net about $1,600 each…These estimates of the fiscal impact imply that the total annual aggregate impact of the first generation and their dependents, averaged across 2011-13, is a cost of $57.4 billion.

          The data are so unambiguous that it is very easy to summarize what they say. On a year-to-year basis, the taxes that immigrant pay simply do not cover the public expenditures they trigger. And the shortfall seems to be at least $50 billion annually.”

          You can click through and check the numbers yourself.

          • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 6:16 pm #

            If I divide 1 trillion by 300,000,000 I get $3,333 per citizen. 1 trillion is an average annual deficit, and 300,000,000 is minus the 30 million you cite here. So every American citizen runs an annual deficit of $3,333. How is that any different then the Mexican?
            Impressive numbers though I must say. You did not address the difference saved between a Mexican doing the work and an American doing the same work for an higher wage.

          • DrTomSchmidt August 28, 2017 at 6:51 pm #

            Yes, well, some problems are domestic and bad enough, as you point out. Given the fiscal imbalance, do you think it wise to import more fiscal imbalance? Looks like we have enough fiscal deficit already, as you point out.

          • benr August 28, 2017 at 11:42 pm #

            About 15 years ago I applied to a Sys admin job for a major sprinkler manufacturer and when I walked in two Mexicans greeted me who drive six days a week from Mexico.
            Their English was at best worse than my Spanish between us we discovered that they made about $10 dollars an hour and wanted me to work for $8 dollars an hour.
            This was for a windows based network of around 100 workstations five servers and all the assorted nonsense to run a small network. so the other liberal argument of they are doing jobs no else wants to do is utter crap.
            I laughed and walked off the campus after asking them why they worked for peanuts to which they replied they made more in a day then they made in two weeks in Mexico but understood why I couldn’t afford to work in Vista for $8 bucks an hour when McDonalds paid about the same.

          • Ricechex August 29, 2017 at 1:03 am #

            I live in San Diego too, seems as if you are in North County. I concur that the immigrants are costing us fortunes. Did you know that some years ago the Student Body President at Fresno State was an illegal? YUP. Who do you think paid for his college?

            Then some years ago, the scam with the DMV. Giving the illegals Driver’s Licenses. I thought I was seeing things. Hearing things. Couldn’t be true. But it was. Just another ploy from the deep state to make open borders palatable.

            Since Obamacare– the Sharp Rees Steely waiting rooms look like Tijuana. Takes months to get in for an appointment.

            The Deep State can continue to shove this down our throats, but I know what I see.

          • GreenAlba September 1, 2017 at 8:03 am #

            ‘The data are so unambiguous that it is very easy to summarize what they say. On a year-to-year basis, the taxes that immigrant pay simply do not cover the public expenditures they trigger. And the shortfall seems to be at least $50 billion annually.”

            You can click through and check the numbers yourself.’

            And when you’ve done all that, you can start researching the tax money that has gone on all of the US’s military adventures since the second world war and see how that compares with its social spending. Or just look at the military budget for this year and compare it with the federal education budget. That will explain a lot of things… (We won’t even ask you to count the cost of the US’s military adventures to the countries it has ‘affected’. I mean would you really want to pay for what the US and the UK (my country) did to Iraq on the basis of utter lies?)

            When will it actually dawn on the US and similar countries (mine is an offender as well) that if if you make conditions worse in other countries by your military interventions, economic exploitation or carbon emissions, you will end up with more people seeking refuge, physical or economic, on your shores.

        • zizzybalooba August 28, 2017 at 5:07 pm #

          seapup, here is an example and it’s still the same….


        • michael August 28, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

          The situation in America isn’t as bad as in Europe, Germany in particular. Asylum seekers seem to immediately get “pocket money” and demand this in several locations and are succesful
          since their identities are not ascertained nor can be, since they rid themselvers of their papers.

          This information is suppressed and therefore it is not possible to come up with exact numbers and statistics as you demand.
          Now and then a disgrunted insider (civil servant of the social services) will leak information and then, in the noncompliant media, you will find some articles: in one state of Germany it is believed that on average fraudulent pocket money collectors obtain about 10000 EUR (12000 USD).

          Once asylum has been granted, the immigrant qualifies for
          generous welfare (called Hartz 4): housing, health care + 400 EUR per month for each person. You can own an appartmebnt or house woth 500000 EUR and still qualify. Rumours have it that some Lebanese immigrants (large clans in organized drug crime) are quite wealthy while still receiving benefits.

          You will not hear of this in compliant media.

          My favorite though is a story from Switzerland to be detailled in subsequent post.

          • michael August 28, 2017 at 5:57 pm #

            A family from Eritreia (5 kids) obtained asylum in Switzerland and was then assigned to a county to be taken care of.

            The husband absconded and wife and kids were left to fend for themselves.
            Socal services consultants then descended on the family to render assistance: some intruded into the privacy of the bereaved to play with the small kids. Others made their appearance to go shopping with the wife.

            The older kids were entered into a boarding school. From there they were regularly transported back “home” by taxicab.

            Here are some links (sorry in German) but I’ll translate the headlines for you:

            “Municipality driven to ruin: refugee family costs 50000 USD per month”:

            “Dreaded refugee family from eritreia cause civil insurrection
            in new county of residence”:

            Now I don’t blame the family. They didn’t get any of the 50000USD per month. Instead this was pocketed by parasitic social work consultants, these being native swiss citizens more than happy to live off the fat of the land.

            Aren’t you glad you live in America?

          • BackRowHeckler August 28, 2017 at 9:10 pm #

            And ‘Burkha’ Merkel claimed yesterday she would do it all over again. (opening the borders that is. She might get the chance in the near future, who knows)

            Its election time in Germany and ‘Burkha’ Merkel holds a commanding lead in the polls. So the German people themselves, the majority of them, have no problem with the 3rd world rushing into the homeland.


          • GreenAlba September 1, 2017 at 8:11 am #

            Typical disinformation and half truths from the ‘FAKE NEWS!’ shriekers. I suppose you missed this from The Independent’ , whose sources are verifiable:

            It’s in English, but here’s the headline and sub-head anyway (23 January 2016):

            “Germany follows Switzerland and Denmark to seize cash and valuables from arriving refugees.
            Officials said the move enforced federal laws requiring asylum seekers to exhaust their own resources before receiving state welfare”

            What goes on in rightwing America in terms of shameless disinformation is a disgrace to any democratic society.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 6:06 pm #

          I thought we believed in Small is Beautiful here. But no, you’re just another Big Statist – but the new breed, the kind who doesn’t believe in the State to begin with.

        • cbeard August 29, 2017 at 9:17 am #

          What would it take for you seawolf77, to understand overpopulation. Arable land and personal space are finite. We are to the point that any addition to the population whether from immigration or live birth is not an asset but a liability. Ditto for economic growth. Nothing. I repeat. Nothing can sustain perpetual growth. It seems economic growth entirely depends on population growth. All the nations on the planet should strive to control their populations Fat chance of that happening. It will take war, famine and disease to get the population to a sustainable level. I’m not against immigration to the U.S. because they are black, brown, tan, etc. I’m against it because the quality of life goes down in my home country with every new birth and or immigrant. I’ll confess to being somewhat misanthropic, but I don’t buy the more the merrier argument.

  6. michics August 28, 2017 at 10:28 am #

    Long time reader, seldom post. I sympathize with people of Texas regarding the catastrophe unfolding there. The tax payers will again be asked to help through gov’t aid, loans, etc. The problem is that people living and building along this country’s coastlines continue to get blown or washed away from storms and then expect the gov’ts to help them rebuild only to be blown or washed away again a few years in the future. Example: Galvastan got blown away in I think 2011, rebuilt and now got hit again, all be it not as bad. When are our gov’ts going to wake up and say enough of this building on the our coastlines ? Houston’s concrete jungle cannot allow any drainage so this flooding has and will continue with them getting gov’t aid everytime it happens. Enough already!

    • Mountain gal August 28, 2017 at 11:10 am #

      Agreed. I was reading an article about someone there who said it’s the third time in three years his home has flooded. Doesn’t seem like a good spot for a home to me. How can we keep paying for him to do repairs or rebuild?

      • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 11:18 am #

        Ocean front construction should self insure. That would do two things. No more mansions. No more insurance companies.

    • Q. Shtik August 28, 2017 at 1:25 pm #

      Galvastan [sic] got blown away in I think 2011, rebuilt and now got hit again, all be it [sic] not as bad.

  7. Ishabaka August 28, 2017 at 10:32 am #

    It’s astonishing to see the way Antifa, the American Nazi Party, and Black Lives Matter have flocked to the Gulf Coast of Texas, volunteering their services to help with the disaster.

    • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 10:36 am #

      They’re as helpful as hyenas. Am I my brother’s reaper?

    • GreenAlba September 1, 2017 at 8:18 am #

      ‘It’s astonishing to see the way Antifa, the American Nazi Party, and Black Lives Matter have flocked to the Gulf Coast of Texas, volunteering their services to help with the disaster.’

      I don’t imagine Nazis would be into that kind of thing but I’m not sure how you’d know if someone helping was a BLM or Antifa activist while they were helping out – why would they come as a group with a placard when it’s not a demonstration against racism or fascism? We don’t know which ones are plumbers and which are stockmarket traders either.

      The USA must be the only place where ‘anti-fascist’ is considered ‘far left’ – an insult almost. In civilised countries it’s what most people are. Like they are ‘anti-murder’ or ‘anti-rape’ or anti-cruelty’. As in, just ‘normal and decent’. It’s what our countries all fought a war for – Hitler was resisted by the global forces of Antifa and thankfully (except for your co-contributor Janos, who would have preferred a different outcome) Antifa won.

  8. JimInFlorida August 28, 2017 at 10:32 am #

    The solution to a funding shortfall is easy. Mustering up the political will is the hard part.

    An emergency surtax on the Top 0.5% for the 4th quarter is in order. A hard tax in which no loophole can thwart its purpose. MAKE THEM PAY!

    Nobody with any good sense will feel sorry for the super rich. They’ve enjoyed stealing the nation’s wealth for the past 35 years and now it’s time to claw it out of their hides.

    • Q. Shtik August 28, 2017 at 11:19 am #

      the super rich. They’ve enjoyed stealing the nation’s wealth for the past 35 years – JiF


      Why do you assume their wealth is stolen?

      • CancelMyCard August 28, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

        “Behind every great fortune there is a great crime.”

        — Honoré de Balzac

        • Q. Shtik August 28, 2017 at 1:29 pm #

          Words in a book.

          Prove it!

          • CancelMyCard August 28, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

            Our esteemed host, Mr. Kunstler, writes words in a book.

            When was the last time you asked him to “Prove it”?

            “Words in a book” is a meaningless non sequitur.

      • Elrond Hubbard August 28, 2017 at 1:19 pm #

        ‘Stolen’ may be overstating it, although ‘extorted’ certainly is accurate when applied to the bailouts that followed the great financial crisis.

        ‘Sequestered’ might be a better word for what the moneyed classes have done with the nation’s wealth since the mid-1970s: diverting all financial gains to themselves and away from the general public by various means, including:

        – offshoring and outsourcing;
        – allowing cheap foreign labour to infiltrate the U.S. economy via the purposely porous southern border;
        – dismantling and co-opting the labour movement, to deny any bargaining power to people who work for their daily bread;
        – lobbying for bespoke legislation to enable them to privatize all gains while externalizing losses;
        – abandoning the real economy for the sake of paper-pushing financial games.

        The list goes on.

        • Q. Shtik August 28, 2017 at 1:34 pm #

          – abandoning the real economy for the sake of paper-pushing financial games. – Elrond


          I always love this one. Any work that does not cause one to sweat is not really work.

          • messianicdruid August 28, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

            Exaggeration is a form of lieing, but you are just starting to “get it”.

          • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 6:42 pm #

            You ever “sweat” when you sent some “creative accounting” to the IRS? You know, the sweats you get when you wake up at 0300 and stare at the roof of the bedroom for an hour or so? I sweat the IRS when I do everything correctly. I actually overpay a bit…intentionally…still I sweat.

            Work is doing something you don’t want to do, for profit, real or imagined. Sweat is not part of the equation

          • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 6:43 pm #

            ” roof of the bedroom ”

            Ceiling, unless you have a tri-level.

      • JimInFlorida August 28, 2017 at 7:40 pm #

        Q, where were you in the 1970’s and 1980’s?

        *EVERYBODY* saw the great robbery of the nation’s wealth on Wall Street!!! It was out in the open for anybody to see! We ALL saw Reaganomics STEAL the built-in wealth of the people, turn it into hot money to drive up the stock market, and waste on colossal malinvestment.

  9. seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 10:34 am #

    There should be a word for being rained on too much. Houston is being wiped out. I feel like we should seriously start talking arks. Every time I walk outside, gloomy skies and rain and wind. Even my dog is sick of it and knows something is afoot. If that thing heads back out over the gulf and reloads and heads for Texas City and Baytown… Well the only good thing is that the government seems to be functioning. Trump is multi-tweeting, pardoning thugs and gangsters, and unbelievably getting fatter and more odious by the day. And he’s coming down here tomorrow!

    • Q. Shtik August 28, 2017 at 10:53 am #

      Where are you located seawolf?

      Who besides the sheriff has Trump pardoned that could be considered a thug or gangster?

      As for the sheriff, I think ‘profiling’ is one of the most sensible tactics in law enforcement’s quiver. Who do you think the cops should pick on, an old white guy like me with bad knees and no criminal record?

      • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 11:00 am #

        Energy Corridor, NW Houston. Racial profiling is against the law. If you define sensible as something that always eventually works if you do it to enough people, than you are correct. If you pull over or harass enough Mexicans, eventually you will find a law breaker. Unfortunately that also applies to Wall Street bankers in $50,000 dollar suits. Now if you’re suggesting the SEC should only harass brokers who drive $500,000 Ferraris and wear Kiton K-50 suits because those are the kind of guys that steal trillions from the economy, I’m with you baby.

        • Elrond Hubbard August 28, 2017 at 11:22 am #

          Class profiling! “You can always find a millionaire to shovel all the coal. Clap hands…”

          But if you follow that line of thinking where it leads, you end up targeting people for wearing glasses, a la the Khmer Rouge. If that happens, I’m sunk, so I guess I’m against it. Enlightened self-interest for the win.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 12:33 pm #

            So when do you stop supporting them? When does commonsense, self interest, and selfishness make Elrond act human (all too) again?

            As long as its other Whites getting enriched, he’s fine (and more than fine) with it.

        • Q. Shtik August 28, 2017 at 11:58 am #

          Racial profiling is against the law. – seawolf


          Yes, but I’m suggesting maybe it (profiling) shouldn’t be.

          For example, if the cops are within a mile of the Colorado and they see a brown man whose back is wet and who doesn’t speak a word of English, etc. etc.

          BTW wolf, your post is filled with cliche exaggerations (“guys that steal trillions.” Please wolf, cut me a break.). I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a $50,000 suit. If a banker is wearing one let’s throw him in jail if we can prove he bought it with stolen money, not merely because he’s a banker.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

            Yes, we’re not being invaded by generic humans, but specific humans, namely brown looking Hispanics from Mexico.

            The lengths people will go to to confuse themselves and others is simply mind boggling. Sea Wolf should write a book entitled, “How to misuse the human mind”.

          • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 2:10 pm #

            Profiling is merely observing things that might appear out of place…a 13 year old behind the wheel of a sports car, for example. I often wonder how police departments that work in predominately “urban” neighborhoods “racially profile”? If all I see on a shift are Blacks or Latinos, how can I express my racial animus? My obvious hatred for all people non-white? Can I just attack the citizen because he is a shade darker than the norm? Help me out here….

            You see a black person slowly driving down a residential street in a white neighborhood at 0300…it will piqué your interest for a moment, and bear observation.

            You see a white person slowly driving down a residential street in a black neighborhood at 0300…this also, will pique your interest a moment and bear observation.

            “Racial profiling” is a canard and a tool of the Marxist left to disempower law enforcement, and by extension destroy civil order.

          • benr August 28, 2017 at 2:52 pm #

            Actually I am more worried about Chinese people showing up with a big bag of money and buying everything up and then never leaving.
            San Diego is now full up on them.
            They are not assimilating but taking over Las Vegas, Orange county, and San Diego.

          • capt spaulding August 28, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

            It’s just a myth believed in by ordinary people, that rich people have unfair advantages in this country. Politicians don’t hobnob any more with millionaires and heads of corporations than they do with Joe mechanic down the block. We’re all equal here, just like it says in Animal Farm. The very idea that congress would pass legislation that favored the wealthy or corporations over the interests of common citizens is too laughable to even consider. It’s all sour grapes perpetrated by people who are too damn lazy to get out & make their money the honest way, by working two or three part time jobs. Besides, the rich should get tax breaks, they’re the job creators, and they deserve a little consideration for the effort they put forth for the benefit of this country and for the average citizen. For all the bad press they get, they are more to be pitied than scorned. God bless them each and every one.

          • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 6:48 pm #


            Maybe, but they will rarely steal your car, rape your wife, nor eye-fuck you on your way to work. As neighbors, you could do worse…. Of course you will want to keep your dog locked up in the backyard at all times.

          • benr August 28, 2017 at 11:51 pm #


            Ever hear of the triad?
            The Chinese new rich are ghastly they are fleeing China by the millions! The housing market is straight up in the three locations I discussed earlier!
            They drive terrible, walk around with their head in the clouds and are some of the most rude people on the planet.
            They also live 10 to a house so hmm I could contest that argument.
            Their children are even more spoiled and entitled than American kids.

          • elysianfield August 29, 2017 at 12:31 am #


            In Oakland we had the Tongs…gruesome murders with bodies mutilated and hanging from rafters in Industrial Buildings…they never gave anyone other than Orientals any grief.

        • malthuss August 28, 2017 at 2:09 pm #


    • cbeard August 28, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

      He pardoned a real American patriot.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

        Yes, an absolute hero. Compare him to some of the people Clinton and Obama pardoned. Day and Night.

        • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

          What is interesting is that he pardons at month 7 and not at the end of his term. Or is it the end of his term and we just don’t know it yet..

          • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

            Most people have sex after dark, but some also in the light of day. A scheduling issue. An issue of opportunity. An issue of necessity.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

      It’s like that Bay City Roller concert you went to.

      • malthuss August 28, 2017 at 10:54 pm #

        They are Gay.

  10. JimInFlorida August 28, 2017 at 10:47 am #

    As for the debt ceiling, it was created by TPTB in 1913 when the nation’s currency was privatized and surrendered to the newly created Federal Reserve. The debt ceiling was created to protect TPTB and their financial claims on the U.S.A. It is ILLEGAL by reason of the 14th Amendment, Section 4.

    “Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.”

    There is an enormous river of stolen money flowing through Wall Street and LaSalle Street every year. TAX IT.

    There is a mountain of U.S. money stashed away in offshore accounts. BLOCKADE THOSE ACCOUNTS.

    Central banks all over the world are held hostage to Washington because our money is being backed by U.S. bonds held in those banks and secured by assets stolen at gunpoint from the people of those countries. BRING THAT MONEY BACK AND INVEST IT IN THE NATION’S INFRASTRUCTURE.

    The Top 1% has enjoyed a windfall of ill-gotten gain from Reaganomics. Systematically repeal Reaganomics and reinstate the 95% top tax rate. The objective of the 95% top tax rate was NOT for revenue per se but, to force the Robber Barons to invest their ill-gotten gain into projects that benefit the general welfare i.e. the public good. MAKE THEM PAY.

    • Q. Shtik August 28, 2017 at 11:01 am #

      Please document the actual payment of a 95% marginal tax rate by even ONE U.S. citizen from that famous Eisenhower era. Just one!

      • JimInFlorida August 28, 2017 at 12:43 pm #

        Re-read my last paragraph Q. I never implied that anybody actually paid the full freight. I doubt anybody paid at the 95% top tax rate directly.

        The OBJECTIVE was to steer abnormally high incomes into useful projects. The OBJECTIVE was to mitigate cancerous accumulations of wealth that would otherwise be used for buying political power, wasteful consumption, and distorting the political process.

        Mid-century America enjoyed great progress because the rich were given the choice to spend their ill-gotten gains on science, industry, and charity *OR* just see it taxed away. It was one of the few positive aspects of the income tax.

        Reaganomics did some shady figuring and claimed that the Super Rich only paid about 25% AFTER all the donations and tax-reducing investments. So, they pulled the ultimate con-game on We Teh Sheep and told us that simply bringing the 70% top tax rate down to 28% and BY GOOD FAITH, the Super Rich will do a better job of distributing their ill-gotten gains than Congress could do.

        We all know that it never happened and many predicted what would happen by removing the top tax rate like that.

        • beantownbill. August 28, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

          Taxation is immoral in my estimation. Having a tax rate of 95% is ludicrous. A far more honest approach is to admit the very wealthy have taken advantage of us and need to pay restitution to the citizenry. Therefore the government will confiscate a certain amount from each of them. Of course, that will never happen.

          The real issue is that the government spends a ridiculous amount of money, way more than the Constitution originally allowed. By reducing the military budget by 50%, we’d save about $450 billion alone. Fixing the medical care industry, we’d save at least another half trillion dollars, maybe even close to a trillion. Strictly enforcing welfare payments and social security disability would save another several hundred billion.

          The point is that government and those who control it are ultimately responsible for our problems. Reform it. You want to punish uber wealthy people, be honest about it and just take some of their money. Taxation is evil.

      • draupnir August 28, 2017 at 2:34 pm #

        Frank Sinatra used to boast that he paid 91% in income tax and could still live like a king.

  11. Bro Jobe August 28, 2017 at 11:00 am #

    Hyperinflation, here we come.

    Looking at Houston, I wonder how we will respond to a double-whammy on such a city. I suspect Houston will rebuild, as New Orleans did, to a shakier, weaker level than before.

    But once a major coastal city gets hit repeatedly? Talk of abandonment will begin, and in reality, folks left with a slab of concrete and no insurance will simply move away en masse…somewhere.

    That can keep one up at night. I’m thinking 30s Dust-Bowl migration, except we’ll call it something else, the bowls filled with rainwater and ruin.

    • malthuss August 28, 2017 at 2:17 pm #

      Move to Mexico?

      After Katrina, Blacks were moved to various cities, and crime waves happened in that wake.

    • michael August 28, 2017 at 6:46 pm #

      The day of wrath will be when the flood sweeps away the The Old River Control Structure thus rendering the rebuilding of New Orleans in vain.

      • DrTomSchmidt August 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm #

        Is that a possibility? I hadn’t thought about that. When the Atchafalaya captures the main distributary, NEw Orleans is gone.

  12. venuspluto67 August 28, 2017 at 11:04 am #

    A comment from another “cultural outsider” type of blog that I often read:

    I was on a non-politics site today looking at some videos from Houston. Below the article, even as people’s lives were being destroyed in real time, left wing and right wing douchebags were going on and on in the comments just savaging each other. When I commented that they could all just fuck the hell off, I got called a precious snowflake. The country is indeed fucked, and Houston–which will need billions in recovery funds even as the U.S. runs out of operating cash with no debt ceiling increase in place–feels like it could be a potential pivotal moment.

    Even if I didn’t believe that there’s such a thing as karma, which I really do, it would still be pretty obvious to me at the point that we’re just freaking doomed. And no, Religion or Ideology X isn’t going to pull our proverbial chestnuts out of the fire. 🙁

    • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 12:42 pm #

      Did you hear about the hawk that sought shelter from the hurricane in a guy’s cab? The guy brought it inside his house but his youtube showed a Confederate Flag. He is accused of trying to turn the Hawk into a racist.

      Now Mr Resonable, don’t try to make it 50/50. You folks have always been the danger. You’re the ones who attack us, both during the Trump Campaign and now at the protests. Gay Liberation is part of the Grievance Alliance, even if you personally are not involved or supportive of all that they do.

      • venuspluto67 August 28, 2017 at 10:59 pm #

        Thank you for demonstrating yet again that you represent the classic Cure That’s Worse Than The Disease.

    • malthuss August 28, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

      What site? The web invites immature behavior, from angry people.

  13. Ron Anselmo August 28, 2017 at 11:06 am #


    Thanks for the mention on college loan debt. Currently the numbers are $1.35 trillion of debt, spread across roughly 40 million individuals, with about $137 billion currently in default. The subject has started to percolate to the surface, primarily I would guess, as bondholders start to realize they may not get their pound of flesh.

    Many of these kids are suicidal over the strain of the debt. Some heartbreaking stories are found at studentdebtcrisis.org. Few well-paying jobs, garnished wages on those that do find employment, withheld tax refunds, and finally, withheld Social Security benefits, to repay “government guaranteed” student loan debt.

    The lending is clearly a predatory lending racket. I can somewhat understand expecting a 35 year old individual to understand the encumbrances of mortgage documents with simple interest, but an 18 year old understanding a student loan agreement with compound interest, not so much.

    I am an avowed capitalist, but when capitalism becomes cannibalism, and we start eating ourselves, which is where we are today, that’s one thing. But, when we start eating our young, that’s another thing entirely.


    • Q. Shtik August 28, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

      From my perspective the problem seems to be the absurd cost of education and only secondarily the tuition lending racket.

      When I started my freshman year at St Joseph’s College in Sept 1958 a semester’s tuition was $350 (I lived at home and commuted.) The comparable number today is $21,510. If you throw in room and board, books and supplies, and other expenses it comes to $29787/semester. This is ridiculous! St Joe’s does not even support a football program.

      One answer is ‘don’t go to college’……. many or most who go to college are not mentally or emotionally equipped for the rigor of higher education.

      BTW, if you escalate $350 by 3% per year (compounded) for 60 years a semester’s tuition would be $2,062. Why is tuition 10 times greater than that? I think I’ll write to the Pope, he was a Jesuit.

      • draupnir August 28, 2017 at 2:40 pm #

        “Higher education,” has been has been debased to accommodate the abilities of the barely literate.

      • benr August 28, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

        Because the government got involved with loans!
        We are the government we are here to help!

        • Ron Anselmo August 29, 2017 at 7:44 am #

          When the government got involved, they guaranteed the loans, which opened the flood gates for lending, by eliminating risk. If lenders were not guaranteed a backstop, compliments of the US taxpayers, they probably wouldn’t be in such a hurry to underwrite the costs of a degree in the arts, because the risk of default or inability to service the loan is fraught with risk.

      • Ron Anselmo August 28, 2017 at 3:16 pm #

        Q –

        Appreciate your thoughts and calculations.

        Just like the healthcare racket, it’s not what it “costs”, it’s what they charge. I think the effect of outrageous tuition, was simply caused by the predatory lenders giving anyone who could fog a mirror, free money. Akin to the mortgage lending practices in the early 2000’s, and how it drove real estate prices. Same game.

        Skimmed through an article on the top 25 law schools, averages were roughly an enrollment of 600 with annual costs around $60K. Thirty-six million a year to run a law school? Really?

        At University of Florida, in 1980, my costs for the year (2 semesters, room & board, etc.) ran about $3K. I know it’s not a comparable metric, but my starting salary was about $30K, or 10 times the annual costs of college.

        Same metric today, kids would need to start out around $400-600K/year. But hey, then maybe they could service the student loan debt, without contemplating suicide.

        Have two sons who will be college age in the next 5 years. Never let them ride their bikes on the interstate, and will not let them take on any unreasonable/unserviceable debt for college.

        • DrTomSchmidt August 28, 2017 at 7:39 pm #

          Gary North says you can get a decent degree for $15k. See:

          If you don’t want to pay, here are the elements: start having your sons do CLEP and PLAC exams. Take a test, get 3 credit hours worth of courses done. Have them take classes at community colleges while living at home and avoiding room and board. In this way, you can cut out the most profitable aspect of college for universities: those freshman and sophomore classes with 400 students in a lecture hall with grad student TAs. Note that they charge the same tuition for each year of college, but the quality varies.

          If,you don’t want your kid to get a generic degree from a place like Empire State College, online, then transferring to a good school like a selective liberal arts college can work well. The major research universities are a waste for undergrad, unless your kid goes to an ivy and meets other members of the upper middle class.


          • Ron Anselmo August 29, 2017 at 7:39 am #

            Thanks Doc.

    • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 2:22 pm #

      What’s the difference between liberals and cannibals? Cannibals only eat their enemies.

  14. ccm989 August 28, 2017 at 11:09 am #

    Having lived through the destruction of Hurricane Sandy, I have nothing but prayers for the people of Texas. No one should have to go thru that hell. Hopefully Trump will get his act together, raise the debt ceiling and let Congress appropriate money to fix all of the things Harvey has broken.

    I like the idea of a temporary tax to be paid for exclusively by the top 1% — of course, that won’t happen, the rich will figure out more ways to steal money and avoid taxes as if they don’t drive on those roads or cross those bridges. Or rely on those workers to make them souls billionaires. Funny how clueless the rich truly are.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 12:44 pm #

      After Katrina, the men of New Orleans, both Black and White, began to rebuild the city. After a week or so they were all laid off, “The Mexicans are here” they were told. That’s the travesty. And why the Wall must be built.

      • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

        You have obviously never lived in Louisiana. That could not, would not ever happen in Louisiana. You lie.

        • malthuss August 28, 2017 at 10:42 pm #

          I read otherwise, if I recall, in the mainstream media. Lots of immigrant and temps working there.

          • seawolf77 August 29, 2017 at 11:56 am #

            Yeah doing all the what we call “n*gg*r” work. Stripping walls of sheet rock and insulation, digging holes and moving mud. I can assure you all the skill work is done by white from around there.

    • Q. Shtik August 28, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

      I like the idea of a temporary tax to be paid for exclusively by the top 1% – ccm989


      I note your use of the word “exclusively.”

      Sorry ccm, this is one of those half-baked ideas that simply can not worked. What about the lucky bastards in the top 1.1% but just outside the 1% cutoff. They get a free pass? Get real ccm.

      The answer, just print up a bunch of new money out of thin air like they always do and we’ll worry about hyper-inflation when it finally raises its ugly head.

      • beantownbill. August 28, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

        And that is what they’ll do after they raise the debt limit.

      • michael August 28, 2017 at 6:36 pm #

        “…and we’ll worry about hyper-inflation when it finally raises its ugly head.”
        But then it is too late.
        And before then it is risky.
        Thanks to our “leaders” for putting us in such a situation.

  15. Mountain gal August 28, 2017 at 11:14 am #

    I was struck by the rationale for not ordering an evacuation of Houston; that the previous one for Rita went so badly and many died on the road during the evacuation. When we have cities that are so large that they cannot be reasonably evacuated even with several days notice of an impending emergency, that seems to me like a very dangerous situation. Maybe we need to take another look at the scale of cities such as Houston which of course are very car dependent.

    • seawolf77 August 28, 2017 at 11:19 am #

      I’ve lived through my share of hurricanes and this one is just weird.

      • Mountain gal August 28, 2017 at 11:54 am #

        Yes, but so many storms are weird now. Where I live we experienced devastation from a storm with homes wiped out that had been there for over a century. Look at what happened in NYC with Sandy. Weather is just plain getting weirder. I suspect this will only get worse. We have to abandon “business as usual”.

        • michael August 28, 2017 at 6:38 pm #

          Surely you have noticed that every effort — and indeed all efforts —
          are made so that business as usal may endure.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 12:47 pm #

        Imagine if the fifty inches of rain were snow – fifty feet of snow. Buried alive. That’s what will happens as the Ice Age comes down. The Global Super Storms usher it in in royal fashion.

        • draupnir August 28, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

          So sorry, in the US, 13 inches of snow is the equivalent of 1 inch of rain. If it’s the very dry, powdery type of snow it can be as much as 50 inches.

          • malthuss August 28, 2017 at 10:43 pm #

            Sorry, but his ‘fifty inches of rain’
            50 x 13 = 650. Yes?

    • capt spaulding August 28, 2017 at 11:27 am #

      What you’re talking about Mountain gal, is looking ahead. That’s something that governments and people aren’t very good at.

  16. Mike Patrick August 28, 2017 at 11:51 am #

    I live in Houston. If you look at the heavy precipitation chart since 1915 there have been equally significant rainfall rainfall events from which Houston always recovered, although Harvey may set a record,.
    Our neighborhood has not flooded past the curb, though we are indeed stranded.
    Houston is too big not to rebuild. Houston is a growing, rich city compared to Rustler’s rust belt perspective, where the cities are expendable.
    I have been to New Orleans twice since since Katrina, and they have done an amazing job or rebuilding.
    Kunstler HOPES Houston will not be rebuilt, but cannot overcome his regional bias and most irritating predilection of predicting outcomes with an irritating, authoritative, certainty things of which he knows little about.
    Houston will be rebuilt, Jimbo boy.

    • Laserninja August 28, 2017 at 12:44 pm #

      Mike, The problem with comparing to the past is that back in the old days we had a government that still had money left, and a financial system not completly built on quicksand, and the oil industry was profitable. Now even Exxon has to borrow money to pay dividends, and most of the small oil companies (especially the frackers) have had negative cash flow for at least 8 years. So I think when the dust settles Houstons image as a “rich” city will be tarnished when they look in the cookie jar and there is nothing left but dust and rat droppings. Remember Rome was once a rich city, Athens was once a rich city and so was Caracas.

      • Mike Patrick August 29, 2017 at 6:18 pm #

        And New Orleans? There were those who thought NOLA would never recover. But I have been there in 2013 and this year and I can assure you that the city has indeed recovered. Gigantic concrete levees have replaced the much smaller earthen ones.
        Texas and California pay more federal taxes than they receive back from the government. The US needs Texas and California more than those states need the US. They both have good cases for secession.
        Houston is one of the economic motors for the US economy. Pew estimates its population has increase by a million i the last 10 years. Besides the port and the hydrocarbon industries, after the oil price crash in 1985, Houston’s manufacturing economy diversified. Within a 3-mile radius from our house are dozens of small factories and shops manufacturing an entire array of items. Metro Houston is the most heavily industrialized major metropolitan area in the country.
        You cannot proclaim your apocalyptic opinions and expect everyone to fall in line behind you. The US industrial economy, what is left of it, is seriously imperiled as long as Houston is out of commission.
        Expect a flood of federal money into Houston for the next five years. TPTB know how important Houston is. THEY cannot live without it. By the 1950’s this was already obvious.

    • The Articulate Infant August 28, 2017 at 6:58 pm #

      Why are you wasting your time telling us all this Mikey? You could be out there right now, paddling about in an inflatable, with some They Might Be Giants playing in your iPod, getting some kids out of a tree, rescuing families from rooftops, saving beloved family pets from drowning. You could be organizing a volunteer labor gang to get out and rebuild flood blighted neighborhoods, filling some sandbags. Get to it Mikey! Chop chop!

      • Mike Patrick August 29, 2017 at 6:23 pm #

        We are on high-level land. The water keeps streaming south down our street, ultimately into the gulf. The gas electric and water all work here.
        But we are stranded. It is pointless to go anywhere until the water recedes.

    • Graycenphil August 28, 2017 at 10:00 pm #

      Thank you Mike, for the first hand report. It’s just a hurricane. A big one, with a lot of rain, but I have extraordianry confidence in the ability of Texas to recover from this. We’ll offer any help we can, but they’ll be just fine.

      Do you folks really think this is going to cause the fall of the US, an antifa vs Trump revolution, the tanking of the stock market or major oil shortages? Really?

      • Mike Patrick August 29, 2017 at 6:59 pm #

        Exactly, Graycenphil. This blog is apocalypse central
        Kunstler jumps to conclusions without all the facts. He already made a fool of himself with his dire warning about how everything would stop on 2000-01-01. If he had asked me, I could have told him that I knew by firsthand experience that there were armies of programmers working to readapt legacy mainframe systems’ code, like COBOL, to allocate extra bytes for Date-Time data. These reprogramming jobs were started as early as 1995. But no, Kunstler tuned in only to what he wanted to hear and made a fool of himself.
        Kunstler does not like Houston because it is too hot and sprawling. For the former, he could consider that residential central air conditioning is neither new nor unusual. Up north next to Lake Erie, where I used to live for 29 years, people tend to stay indoors during the winter. I distinctly remember “cabin fever” resulting from the inconvenience and difficulty of going outdoors. Well it is the same thing in Houston except it is during winter when the temperature is comfortable requiring sometimes a sweater. You only need a heavy overcoat 3-10 days depending on the year. I have acclimatized myself to the heat since I arrived here in 1981. People can adapt to many climatures.
        As for the latter, it is safe to say that Houston does not have a monopoly on sprawl. I remember Toronto in the mid 1960’s when it was a beautiful, compact city with no skyscrapers. Today, Toronto is a sprawling mess with a vast area completely car-dependent. Like Houston, their public transit systems have not kept up with the growth of roadways and it will take decades and $$$ for that to happen.

        • Graycenphil August 30, 2017 at 8:58 am #

          Thanks again Mike. A little bit of sanity among a lot of doomsaying. I just hope nobody is actually rooting for the failure of Houston, or the Long Emergency; sometimes I wonder.

          I think Mr. Kunstler is a great writer. I thoroughly enjoy his fiction. These biweekly blog entries are delightful, and inciteful. It’s refreshing to hear someone so eloquently state what so few are willing to say publicly.

          But his predictions, as you pointed out, are incredibly consistent in their inaccuracy. Practically everything he predicts is wrong. At what point does one say this is silly? I’ve come to question whether he really even believes any of them, or is it just a literary tool? Is he just having fun with the folks who actually believe them?

        • Elrond Hubbard August 30, 2017 at 2:00 pm #

          With regards to transit, Toronto coasted for at least a quarter century on the investments of prior generations. Two mayors back, David Miller understood the issue and by the time he left office had a plan in place to blanket the city in LRTs. The Transit City plan was fully funded, and would have gone a long way toward addressing future needs.


          His replacement, the notorious Rob Ford, tore up the Transit City plan literally on his first day, then started ranting about the need for subways instead. Not on the basis of cost-effectiveness, mind you, nor on the basis of density. No, he demanded subways because his voting base of suburbanites felt left out because all the subways were serving downtown (you know, where so few people live), and because Transit City discriminated against motorists by reallocating road space to build LRT rights of way.

          As a result, the fully-funded plan we had, that would have served people all over the city, is now a more expensive, partially-funded plan to extend the subway by one, glorious stop to a shopping mall. Public transit in Toronto needs more than decades and $$$ (though it needs those as well) — it needs to be protected against spectacularly bad leadership.

  17. pequiste August 28, 2017 at 12:32 pm #

    Butterfly wings flapping?

    More like a giant herd of African elephants farting in unison, the wind wave picking up steam while headed across the Atlantic, building into a mighty gyrating torrent as it boiled over the Gulf of Mexican for landfall, and walloping the Texas coast with one hell of a wet whopper of a hurricane.

    IN other news: the U.S. dollar is falling southward.

    Precious metals are having a fine day with gold strongly breaking above the psychological barrier of $1300.

    And get ready, all you Happy Motoring folks, for higher gas prices as there are nine major oil refineries in the affected area of the Gulf coast. I’m betting on a 50 cents per gallon bump to help everyone’s Labor Day holiday.

    Don’t worry though, the D.O.D. budget for Overseas Contingency Operations for this fiscal year – 2018- is approximately 75 BILLION dollars helping to “bring them Democracy” and the rebuilding of mosques and madrassas in Shitholistan, Somalia, and Yemen.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 2:49 pm #

      Thous canst not stir a flower without troubling a star.


      • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 6:54 pm #

        Do you believe this? The “Butterfly Effect”?

        • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 10:34 pm #

          Who can say? Isn’t one theory of Social Decay called the “broken window” theory or some such thing? Once a broken window isn’t fixed, it leads to more broken widows. People get demoralized, and the people who can move out of the neighborhood. The ones who stay stop trying to keep things up. Thugs become emboldened, etc.

          Or the traditional ditty: For want of a nail, a horse shoe was lost. For want of its shoe, the horse was lost. For want of the horse, the message was lost. For loss of the message, the battle was lost. For want of the battle, the war was lost.

          Of course the theory is postulating far more subtle and indirect modes of causality than these examples.

          • elysianfield August 29, 2017 at 12:45 am #

            “Of course the theory is postulating far more subtle and indirect modes of causality than these examples.”

            Were the “Butterfly Effect” a viable one, what would be said for wind energy’s impact on the environment? Untold energy harvested from the wind, to no perceived effect. Seems to violate the laws of physics/thermodynamics.

            Broken Window Theory? AKA “Sweat the Small Stuff”? Works if there is a sufficiency of personnel, and in a venue that will not attract racial animus as a result of increased activity. Look at Europe…look at Detroit….

          • Elrond Hubbard August 29, 2017 at 9:58 am #

            elysianfield, the butterfly effect is real. The thing is, unlike so many scientific theories that make predictions which we can exploit to our benefit, chaos theory helps us to understand why things like the weather (as opposed to climate) are so hard to predict.

            It took hundreds of millions of tailpipes and smokestacks belching CO2 for centuries to build up to a noticeable difference in the climate. No doubt wind turbines doing what they do make a difference as well, but not enough to notice right now. If and when it does become noticeable, well, I call that a nice problem to have.

          • elysianfield August 29, 2017 at 3:56 pm #

            Who knows what that “nice problem” might provide…?Changing patterns of rainfall, storm vectors, even prevailing winds can cause consequences that were/are unintended and uninvited.

    • draupnir August 28, 2017 at 2:53 pm #

      Good news though, after all that “Democracy building” it appears as though Europe is finally going to get that southern pipeline they’ve been lusting after to free them from the stranglehold of the Russian bear, though not the route through Syria they would have preferred.

  18. trypillian August 28, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

    The US Army Corps of Engineers did a fine job of preventing a flood catastrophe, didn’t they. The Flood Control Act of 1936, obviously has inadequete standards for the region. If you ignore fundamental engineering standards then you pay the price and it blows up, loosing everything in the process. It will cost probably one Trillion to resurrect Houston. Perhaps this time around they will develop a comprehensive regional land use plan as opposed to the existing free for all non-plan, which denies water flows downhill and ponds in relation to gravity.

    Emperor Trump will visit proclaiming only He can recede the foul and pestilent waters like a modern Moses because of His magical ability to conjure mercantile assistance out of thin air.

    • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 6:57 pm #

      The Corps of Engineers proposes…

      Nature disposes….

      In Engineering, the perfect is never the enemy of the good…sometimes the good is just not good enough…there are always trade-offs.

  19. Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 1:09 pm #

    Orpheum theatre in Memphis bans Gone With the Wind. White Supremacy don’t you know!

    One is reminded of the early Christians defacing pagan statues….and of course ISIS.

    • lsjogren August 28, 2017 at 1:18 pm #

      Seems high time for libraries to start burning books that aren’t politically correct.

      • The Articulate Infant August 28, 2017 at 7:07 pm #

        They’ll be getting to that soon enough, count on it. All knowledge in science, history, art etc, it is all seen through the narrow, warped prism of white cis gendered hetero-normative men, and therefore is an affront and must be destroyed, for progress, and bringing peace and justice to us all. Doncha know?

    • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 6:58 pm #

      “Orpheum theatre in Memphis bans Gone With the Wind.”

      Frankly, Janos, I….

      • Janos Skorenzy August 29, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

        Try this then – little things aren’t causing Change, but are the first signs of it. As Blake said:

        A dog starved by its Master’s gate,
        Predicts the ruin of the State.
        A rob red breast in a cage,
        Puts all heaven in a rage.

        The canceling of this classic movie, played every year in this theatre, is a sign of a sea change that will effect everything.

    • GreenAlba September 1, 2017 at 8:27 am #

      ‘One is reminded of the early Christians defacing pagan statues….and of course ISIS.’

      You forgot to mention Nazis burning books.

  20. PeteAtomic August 28, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

    I think I get the point of the article; that we are getting more and more into choppier waters, and that the risk/management curve is getting higher (?) right?

    Couple things I’m personally not too bothered about. N.Korea for example. Whatever. They have been like this for 60 years now. The Chinese aren’t gonna want their craziness any more than we are. So, I don’t know.

    But again, I think I get the point. I think its a “sum” of things. Lots of empires get hammered the same way. Entropy takes over, and all these previously manageable problems become crises.

    What is happening in Houston, and previously in N.O. are great examples. I don’t think that part of the US will ever really recover, and maybe that’s a take away message– the empire will decline by degrees.

  21. robert magill August 28, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

    My fondest hope is that Air Force one scares off a bevy of black swans when it lands in Texas tomorrow. The occupant descends to place one trillion US, 80% private, on the table to rebuilt Houston and the rest of the US starting especially with the coldest part.

  22. volodya August 28, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

    Isjogren, yeah, the next thing is book banning, then burning.

    The High Horse Riders might want to ask themselves where they were during the Obama administration. Didn’t they notice the confederate statutes back then? It wasn’t so long ago after all. They had eight years to tear them down. And during the Clinton administration for that matter. That wasn’t so long ago either.

    That noted White Supremacist Charles Barkley sez don’t waste time on those statues. More important things to do. Words to consider…

  23. volodya August 28, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

    Mountain gal, it was probably the right decision to not evacuate. With so many people on the road you can picture things going sideways and the exodus turning into a Mad Maxian struggle for survival.

    But your point about the scale of these cities is a good one.

    When you look at a lot of large cities in the world, aside maybe from NYC, a city that’s considered large in the US would be considered a neighborhood in places like Japan or China or Mexico. So if city size is a problem in the US….

  24. 100th Avatar August 28, 2017 at 2:58 pm #

    “Ordinarily, failure to raise the debt ceiling would lead to a government shut-down, including hurricane recovery operations, unless the president invoked some kind of emergency powers.”

    Negative. The executive branch has the ability to classify “essential’ and “non-essential” personnel. Your park rangers go home. Your FEMA personnel work, albeit without getting paid.

  25. 100th Avatar August 28, 2017 at 3:06 pm #

    I was hoping to hear more about Houston’s predicament in relation to it being the sprawl capital of the USA. No such luck.

    “They heard me singing and they told me to stop,
    Quit these pretentious things and just punch the clock,
    These days, my life, I feel it has no purpose,
    But late at night the feelings swim to the surface.
    ‘Cause on the suburbs the city lights shine,
    They’re calling at me, ‘come and find your kind.’
    Sometimes I wonder if the world’s so small,
    Then we can never get away from the sprawl,
    Living in the sprawl,
    Dead shopping malls rise like mountains beyond mountains,
    And there’s no end in sight,
    I need the darkness someone please cut the lights.
    We rode our bikes to the nearest park,
    Sat under the swings, we kissed in the dark,
    We shield our eyes from the police lights,
    We run away, but we don’t know why,
    And like a mirror these city lights shine,
    They’re screaming at us, ‘we don’t need your kind’
    Sometimes I wonder if the world’s so small,
    Then we can never get away from the sprawl,
    Living in the sprawl,
    Dead shopping malls rise like mountains beyond mountains,
    And there’s no end in sight,
    I need the darkness someone please cut the lights.
    They heard me singing and they told me to stop,
    Quit these pretentious things and just punch the clock.
    Sometimes I wonder if the world’s so small,
    Can we ever get away from the sprawl?
    Living in the sprawl,
    Dead shopping malls rise like mountains beyond mountains,
    And there’s no end in sight,
    I need the darkness someone please cut the lights.”

    -Regine Chassigne (married to a Houston band frontman).

    The lights have been cut.

    • malthuss August 28, 2017 at 10:36 pm #


  26. volodya August 28, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

    Chris Hedges sees the same thing with the Left and Right heading down the road to widespread fighting. He’s right IMO that the basis for it is a lot of deprivation no matter the side the combatants take. But I think he’s wrong when he’s sez there’s no moral equivalency between the antifa fighters and their counterparts, meaning the Right is the more despicable.

    Not buying it. He’s right, a lot of the Leftists are a gang of witless poseurs. It is a mode of self expression, or virtue signalling. But when your stick breaks someone’s head, when you pull the trigger, who cares, the distinctions disappear.

    Look back at history. Tell me again that Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot were better than the German Nazis. They weren’t. They were mass murderers on an epic scale.

    • malthuss August 28, 2017 at 10:48 pm #

      I was reading about rapist, killer, Che.
      His daddys last name was Lynch.

      And Ches first name was Ernesto.
      Imagine if he had been called Ernie Lynch.

  27. My Point of View August 28, 2017 at 3:54 pm #

    Even before reading this column today I had one thought: Black Swan.

    Houston is out of business for quite some time. I suspect refineries will gradually get back to work shortly after the water recedes but many skilled employees with be living in shelters and off work to deal with losing their homes and cars, not to mention roads washed out, etc. Output of refined products will be diminished for some time and our large national stockpiles of refined products will be drawn down, though the busy summer driving season is largely behind us save for the next two weeks.

    Bigger impact IMO may be to auto insurers who are probably looking at half a million vehicles that will be declared total losses. Beware of buying used cars that show signs of being flood cars, they appear all over the country after events like this.

    Insurers of homes and business properties are going to take a huge hit from this storm. Potentially hundreds of billions in losses that will stress the cash reserves this industry keeps around for just such events. The ripples will spread across the business world.

    Will all these losses tip the stock markets into correction or recession? Who knows. There’s going to be one hell of a bull market in goods and services to repair and replace the damages but on balance this storm is a huge aw shit in an otherwise orderly business environment.

    • The Articulate Infant August 28, 2017 at 7:13 pm #

      No, no, no, you got it all wrong, didn’t you read big Mikey Patricks comment? Everything is going to be fine. Fine! No problem I tell you! Just ask Mike. Go on, ask him, he’ll set you straight, my word he will. He said Houston will be rebuilt and everything is fine, not to worry. Houston no problem. Nothing to see there, just move along.

  28. tucsonspur August 28, 2017 at 3:55 pm #

    Who will be this disaster’s Ray Nagin? Remember him, he who said New Orleans will be “chocolate”?

    Disaster brings out both the best and the worst in people. In Ray’s case his sins put him in the slams.


  29. janet August 28, 2017 at 4:25 pm #

    “…and the rebuilding of mosques and madrassas in Shitholistan, Somalia, and Yemen.” –pequiste

    Really? I doubt this is happening, pequiste.

    If the US government is giving money to DoD for rebuilding mosques and madrassas, that kind of constructive activity will probably result in fewer American soldiers being killed. But I doubt the US military is dong that kind of work.

    In my opinion, the US government should be using its funds to rebuild Houston, in our own nation, not giving money to DoD nation-building projects in other nations.

  30. tucsonspur August 28, 2017 at 4:37 pm #

    “When the Butterfly Flaps Its Wings”.

    Most of us have heard of chaos, not as many of “strange attractors”.

    Back in the sixties, Edward Lorenz of MIT found a strange attractor in a certain set of differential equations describing atmospheric air flows. It became known as Lorenz’s butterfly, because of its shape.

    The behavior of a certain path on the surface of these attractors is completely unpredictable, but the path is always on the attractor’s surface. Regarding the weather, this bounds what it can do.

    So, we won’t have snow storms in deserts or temps in the several hundreds in Maine. Not for quite sometime, at least.

    Still,in spite of all the data collected over the years, the weather over time is very much unpredictable and chaotic. But my guess is that Harvey still lies on the “butterfly”, netted by that “strange attractor”.

    • MrTibbs August 28, 2017 at 9:04 pm #

      Got HAARP??
      High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program.

      In the old republic, the effective manipulation of weather is a collateral discovery of what started as a nuclear payload ballistic missile disruption program.

      Y = career politicians x career lobbyists x globalist mainstream media x career unelected Deep State bureaucrats x Hollywood elites x unprosecuted corruption x globalist banking cartels x globalist technocrats

      “God integrates empirically.”
      – Albert Einstein.

      Y = old republic NETWORK globalism = THE SWAMP.

      In the New Republic, all good people in the arena enjoy resuming the restoration of the Constitutional republic from JFK’s point of interruption, can see for miles and miles, and enjoy Liberty in building out properties and the local means of production, with the capability to sow, nurture, grow, harvest, store, cook, engineer, design, program, automate, construct, process, raise, teach, counsel, hunt, defend, provide, debate, organize, compose, perform, worship, dance, laugh, love, celebrate, and sustain.

      We are the sheepdogs.
      And we are old fashioned and sentimental.
      And we belong to the longest serving Civil Rights organization in the Republic.
      And we don’t require others for border protection or building bridges.
      And members are made by undying love, devotion, and loyalty to the Constitution.
      And we are happy to participate in the proper pursuit and offering of due process under the Constitution to the NETWORK globalist class charlatans who sold out the old republic in their lust for power and the love of money.
      And we are ready for what’s next.
      Sent from the New Republic.

  31. janet August 28, 2017 at 4:37 pm #

    “a lot of the Leftists are a gang of witless poseurs.” –volodya

    Snowflakes, right? Leftists hate guns and the 2nd amendment, right? Keep thinking that.

    I happen to know a lot of Leftists who have been trained by US Special Forces, like the hundreds of veterans who showed up at Standing Rock. They have no fear in their bones. They already have combat experience. Defend the KKK, neo-nazis, and white supremacists at your own risk, volodya.

  32. Pucker August 28, 2017 at 6:45 pm #

    “A Prophet is revenue minus expenses. We haven’t seen one of those around here in years!”
    – George W. Bush, Jr.

  33. janet August 28, 2017 at 6:58 pm #

    Texas legislators refused to vote for federal government aid to New Jersey and New York after Sandy hit. Now they are not protesting federal government aid to Texas because it is their constituents who meed help. Government is good. Big government is better.

    Also notice that disaster has not resulted in looting, shooting, and chaos. What we see are neighbors — Black, white, Asian, Hispanic — helping neighbors with no regard for skin color or ethnicity. Diversity is strength.

    Rep. Peter King, whose district encompasses parts of Long Island, tweeted that he wouldn’t “abandon Texas the way Ted Cruz did New York;” New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie called the Texas lawmakers “hypocrites;” and Rep. Frank LoBiondo of the Garden State tweeted that despite the stance of his Texas colleagues on the Sandy relief package, he would support emergency money for their constituents.

    Overall, 23 of the 24 Texas Republicans then in the House voted against the Sandy package. And joining Cruz in opposing it was the state’s other senator, John Cornyn (who’s now that chamber’s majority whip).

    • elysianfield August 28, 2017 at 7:10 pm #

      “”What we see are neighbors — Black, white, Asian, Hispanic — helping neighbors with no regard for skin color or ethnicity. Diversity is strength”

      Kumbaya, My Lord, Kumbaya…

      • The Articulate Infant August 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

        With an encore of They Might Be Giants ‘Racist Friend’

      • janet August 28, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

        Exactly! When the shit hits the fan neighbors help neighbors. It is our nature. Kumbaya!

        • JimInFlorida August 28, 2017 at 8:11 pm #

          What happened to the investments made in the 1950’s-1970’s to address these natural catastrophes i.e. infrastructure, public works, and emergency services?

          Partial answer: Reaganomics and the attendant neglect of the above. Reaganomics says that money should be allowed to go where it wants and find the best “return on investment.”

          Problem is that infrastructure, public works, and emergency services aren’t sexy or generate profits for the elite rentier class. Who remembers hearing how the drainage pumps in New Orleans failed because of neglect? Or that the dikes had been neglected? Or the street drainage systems hadn’t been kept clear? But, Mayor Nagin had friends to pay off and rackets to manage. He was just a tiny symptom of the psychosis unleashed by Reaganomics and the neocons.

          Neighbors helping neighbors in fine for small local problems but, on the scale of the current crisis, the people have a RIGHT to expect that the local infrastructure will handle it. We’ll see how well Texas handles the fallout from decades of poorly planned growth.

          • BackRowHeckler August 28, 2017 at 9:46 pm #

            Hey Jim, if you’re still looking in …

            What do you make of these Naval Vessels crashing into tankers and freighters in the pacific fleet all the sudden?

            Back in the day alls we had was surface radar that projected out about 12 miles and a LORAN navigation system, which at times was none too reliable.

            These freighters mostly are pieces of junk, one screw vessels manned by about a dozen guys from Malaysia; those modern US Destroyers and Fast Frigates cost in the billions.

            Also, that Osprey has to go. 6 have crashed so far since its inception, killing dozens of Marines.


          • JimInFlorida August 29, 2017 at 8:46 am #

            When I was in the Navy, all of the above “accidents” would have been impossible. The radars show all. The OOD had all the information he needed to see a hazard and the authority to either act on it or avoid it. If the Captain wasn’t on the bridge, he was just a call away and could be up on the bridge in minutes or even seconds.

            I’m aware of the “stealth” fad (running dark). To not have the radars and running lights lit up in areas of high maritime traffic is criminal negligence and poor seamanship.

            The Osprey was inherently a failure because the engineers and politicians were locked into a delusion and there was far too much money was already squandered to stop. It failed for the same reason that the Soviet-era ekranoplan (Caspian Sea Monster) failed. Trying to balance a dynamic flying load upon one lifting surface. That’s like trying to sit on a chair with only two legs and both of them are right under your butt. The fore and aft CG is incredibly narrow and is impossible to safely maintain.

            The solution was always around but, we now know it was the common four-propeller DRONE! With that arrangement, you have four lifting points that are equidistant from the center of the mass. That arrangement enables a broad 2-dimensional CG envelope. It is inherently stable for the same reason that a four-legged chair is stable!

            Science and good engineering be damned! Billions are sunk into the V22 Osprey and it has to be kept flying by Congressional decree.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 10:36 pm #

          Blacks are especially good at “getting helped”.

          • JimInFlorida August 29, 2017 at 8:25 am #

            Ah, the hidden factor that is all too easily overlooked. The Black Belt of the South would have behaved in the same way after such natural destruction, whether is was 2005 or 1965.

          • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

            And whites are especially good feeling superior to them when they “hep” them.

        • elysianfield August 29, 2017 at 4:00 pm #

          “When the shit hits the fan neighbors help neighbors. It is our nature. Kumbaya”

          Funny story. I had a house off of 73rd in Oakland while I was on the Department…Two attempted burglaries in three years…shots fired both times…neighbors.

          • Q. Shtik August 29, 2017 at 5:24 pm #

            I had a house off of 73rd in Oakland while I was on the Department – elysian


            When you say off of 73rd does that mean you were not on 73rd or that you were on 73rd? I’m guessing it’s the latter.

            And when you say I was on the Department does that mean you were in the Department. Again, I’m guessing that in Oakland speech on means “in.”

            Where I’m from in Jersey your sentence would have read “I had a house on 73rd in Oakland while I was in the Department.” This seems to constitute a major difference between East and West coast speech.

            Not to be pedantic… just sayin’

          • elysianfield August 30, 2017 at 11:51 am #

            One block North of 73rd …”off” would be common usage, as in…”You can find Holly Street off East 18th around the 8500’s…this would indicate that Holly Street would intersect East 18th Street around the “8500’s”…or the 85th block…(It doesn’t in reality).

            In/on…again common usage acceptable and understandable…”On”, I believe would be the most common to those in the “business”.

            You say “In”, I say “On”,

            You say “On, I say “Off”,

            Let’s call the whole thing off….

        • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

          Not exactly. Everyone wants to be a hero. It’s a tragic tick in humanity’s genes.

  34. Pucker August 28, 2017 at 7:19 pm #

    Did Paul Ryan fart off Trump’s threat to hold the debt ceiling hostage to funding construction of the border Wall by saying that the Congress would just raise the debt ceiling anyway?

  35. janet August 28, 2017 at 7:49 pm #

    And don’t forget the National Guard is mobilized in Texas. More evidence of how big government helps citizens.

    North Korea just slapped Trump in the face by firing a missile over Japan.

    Nort Korea respected Obama, his intelligence, and his strength. They are toying with Trump because they know Trump is a weak paper tiger big mouth bully who does not know how to govern. The US is losing respect under Trump’s clown government.

    The yen increased in value.

  36. BackRowHeckler August 28, 2017 at 9:00 pm #

    In fact NKorea did indeed send two missiles over mainland Japan earlier today, most likely hoping we are too distracted by events in Houston to do anything about it.

    I’ve read Japan could build a nuclear weapon within about 1 year, a real functioning A bomb, not the duds the NKoreans are putting out. In the 30s and 40s the Japanese crushed China, fought the Soviet Union to a standstill in Manchuria and held off the might of the United States for four years. If I were Young Kim I would be a little careful about how much I prodded the Land of the Rising Sun.


    • benr August 29, 2017 at 12:02 am #

      Different much softer Japan today.
      I like the Japanese hard working capable people but they are emasculated compared to the 1900- 1940’s versions.

  37. Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 10:38 pm #

    Janos: The Red Queen rules in Sweden – and increasingly in the West as a whole.

    Three years ago, Aideen Strandsson, an Iranian actress who had converted from Islam to Christianity applied for asylum in Sweden on the grounds that apostasy is a capital offense in her home country. (Don’t ask me why her name sounds Swedish rather than Iranian.) This summer, Swedish authorities turned her down. They were fully prepared to send her back to Iran – and to her death – when the Hungarian government stepped in and agreed to take her. It is just one individual’s story, but it illuminates the dramatic difference between Western and Eastern Europe when it comes to matters that will, before too long, decide the future of the continent.

    Sweden, of course, is one of those Western European countries that have eagerly granted asylum to armies of Muslims who pose as refugees from persecution but who are, in fact, economic migrants, eager to climb onto the welfare-state gravy train. Hungary, meanwhile, is one of those Eastern European countries that refuse to take in Muslims but are willing to accept Christians.

    The logic, in both cases, is clear. Western European politicians and bureaucrats tend to be postmodern multiculturalists – in Sweden, fanatically so. They feel a contempt for their own civilization and they regard this contempt as a mark of sophistication and virtue. They have made a fetish of unqualified respect for other cultures, however objectively undeserving those cultures may be of any decent person’s regard. They are especially fond of cultures that share their own contempt for the West, and hence there is no culture for which they show more deference than that of Islam, which since its founding has been at war with what used to be called the Christian world.

    The postmodernists live, of course, in countries that are – or were, until they started ruining it all – free, prosperous, and safe, and they feel an obligation to share their good fortune with as many Muslims as possible, even if it means, in the long run, destroying that freedom, prosperity, and safety. In the case of Sweden, this self-destructive impulse is so strong that the country has actually opened its arms to returning ISIS terrorists – and given them all kinds of freebies to make them happy.

    When a Muslim such as Strandsson converts to Christianity, however, all bets are off. Her otherness is immediately erased, effaced, nullified. Western officials who reflexively treat everything having to do with Islam with delicacy and respect take an entirely antithetical view of a Muslim who has converted to Christianity. While they regard Islam, the religion of “the other,” as by definition virtuous – as a faith whose adherents should be automatically esteemed, appeased, and rewarded – they view Christianity, the faith of their despised Crusader ancestors, as intrinsically iniquitous, a religion of conquest and oppression. In the eyes of the truly fervent Swedish multiculturalist, sending someone like Strandsson back to a place like Iran to be brutally executed by the merciless enforcers of sharia law is not obscenely immoral but is, rather, the ultimate gesture of respect – and thus an act of virtue.

    What makes Eastern Europe so different from Western Europe in this regard is simple: it is not postmodern. It rejects multiculturalism. Its officials, perversely enough, are actually on their own side. Having been under the Soviet boot within living memory, they have not enjoyed freedom long enough to take it for granted. In their view, their primary duty is not to serve the interests of strangers from distant lands but to preserve the liberty, culture, prosperity, and security of their own people – and to reach out a hand to those who need their help and have embraced their values. “Taking in persecuted Christians,” said Hungary’s Deputy Prime Minister, Zsolt Semjén, about the Strandsson case, “is our moral and constitutional duty all at once.”

    Strandsson’s story is far from unique. Last September it was reported that Sarmad Ozan, an Iraqi engineer and Christian deacon whose home city of Mosul had been overrun by ISIS and cleansed of Christians, had requested asylum in Britain, where he was studying. But the Home Office denied his request, ordering him to return home. Since Ozan is a Christian and his former neighbors in Mosul have all become ISIS supporters, the Home Office’s decision amounted to a death sentence. He appealed; as of last spring, he was still awaiting a reply.

    Then, this past February, Front Page’s Daniel Greenfield told the story of an Iraqi Christian family who were denied asylum in Germany by a headscarf-wearing Muslim official, of which there are apparently many working in that country’s immigration service. A Member of Parliament, Wolfgang Bosbach, complained, pronouncing it ridiculous that a devout Muslim should be in a position to rule on asylum applications by Christians fleeing the Islamic world; but the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees dismissed his concerns.

    Under President Obama, of course, the U.S. government pursued a similar policy toward Middle Eastern Christians. As of the beginning of 2015, reported the Daily Mail in September of that year, the U.S. had granted asylum to 4,200 Muslims but only 727 Christians. Lisa Jones of Christian Freedom International asserted that these numbers made “no sense”: “These are people from a Christian culture like our own that needs protection from ISIS…. While many more Muslims are granted asylum over here, Christians are being systematically exterminated.” In 2016, according to a Pew report, “about 99 percent of Syrian refugees admitted to the U.S. were Muslim, while less than 1 percent were Christian.”

    When Donald Trump announced shortly after his inauguration that he would be reversing this disgraceful policy – giving priority to Christian refugees from Muslim persecution and instituting “extreme vetting” for possible jihadists – all sane, decent Americans should have applauded. Instead, millions reacted in outrage at what their brainwashing by multicultural-minded news media, teachers, and professors led them to see as an expression of bigotry – confirming yet again that if Islam is the number-one enemy of Western freedom today, multicultural indoctrination in our own ranks is Islam’s most potent ally.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 28, 2017 at 10:41 pm #


    • janet August 28, 2017 at 11:28 pm #

      “if Islam is the number-one enemy of Western freedom” –janos

      That’s a big “if” janos … in fact Islam is not our enemy. Three million Muslims live peacefully in the United States. They are not killing us like white supremacists are.

      Muslims support western freedom and enjoy living here. They are our friends. They are my personal friends. This country was founded on the principle of freedom to worship … or not to worship. That includes Muslims.

      • benr August 29, 2017 at 12:07 am #

        Janet how brainwashed are you?
        Have you READ the Koran?
        I defy you to read it and not come away shocked and worried!
        Islam has never had the reformation Christianity did under the new testament.
        Look for the term love they neighbor in the Koran!
        YOU WON’T FIND IT!
        Are their good Muslims of course but ISLAM IS ABOUT WORLD DOMINATION.

        • BackRowHeckler August 29, 2017 at 12:29 am #

          a blood soaked, shitty barracks religion, like Mithraism in Roman times.


        • JimInFlorida August 29, 2017 at 8:21 am #

          Janet is the Triple Play of delusion.
          1. Jewish,
          2. Non-White
          3. Female.

          Only when she gets more “cultural enrichment” than she bargained for is when her eyes may finally be opened. But, somehow, she will blame cis-gendered White Males if it happens.

        • GreenAlba September 1, 2017 at 8:39 am #

          ‘Janet how brainwashed are you?
          Have you READ the Koran?
          I defy you to read it and not come away shocked and worried!
          Islam has never had the reformation Christianity did under the new testament.’

          Have you read your bible? Here’s a snippet:

          “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.…”

          That was supposed to be Jesus speaking, by the way. Telling you that the Old Testament still stands – every jot and tittle.

          Here’s some more:
          “If your hand or your foot causes you to fall into sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than to have two hands and two feet and be thrown into the eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to fall into sin, gouge it out and throw it away.”

          Great stuff, eh, the New Testament? (that was from Matthew – easy to google…but I remember it from my youth anyway. Real forgiving stuff.

          • GreenAlba September 1, 2017 at 8:47 am #


            Read your late, great countryman Joe Bageant’s book: Deer Hunting with Jesus – Guns, Votes, Debt and Delusion in Redneck America’.

            He’s describing ‘his’ people – he was brought up among them and went back to live among them until he died. Read the chapter on fundamentalist Christianity. It’s bloodcurdling. We’re talking 2011, not the Middle Ages. The book is great for explaining why the poorest in America repeatedly vote for the people who most despise them and exploit them.

      • S M Tenneshaw August 29, 2017 at 11:05 pm #

        Now look what you made me do – agree with Janos (or at least his civic nationalist incarnation).

        Ain’t no cure for stupid.

    • aibohphobia August 30, 2017 at 1:12 am #

      Fortunately for all of us, someone has taken the trouble to rewrite the story of Jesus so that it conforms to Muslim doctrine, here;


      Hopefully Janos will read this, and change his mind about the ROPE (Religion Of Peace for Everyone) ….

  38. janet August 28, 2017 at 11:20 pm #

    “…a real functioning A bomb, not the duds the NKoreans are putting out.” –brh

    brh, JHK is talking about the effects of the flapping wings of a butterfly. If a lightweight butterfly can have effects, think how much more effect those heavy “duds” can have.

    They are only duds because the North Koreans have chosen to not arm them and to not target them to land on Guam or Los Angeles, or Japan, or an American military base.

    But with each launch they are learning… so they are not “duds” … They are learning on Trump’s watch how to destroy America.

    They are not deterred by Trump’s empty threats of “fire and fury” and Trump allows them to continue testing. Appeals to Japan and China to do something just highlight how weak and impotent Trump is.

  39. tucsonspur August 28, 2017 at 11:22 pm #

    As the deluge continues in Texas, so it continues in Europe, but there the deluge is a dangerous, toxic, brown flood of people.

    The land of Verrocchio, Michelangelo, Raphael, Botticelli, and Titian is under assault by low forms incapable of appreciating the creative genius of these greats and the wonders they have created.

    They want the West, its wealth, and its women. Their drive is a wretched desire, a wanton mindlessness. Low forms, who see the resplendent riches of the West with envious, empty, dead eyes.


    • BackRowHeckler August 28, 2017 at 11:45 pm #


      The ‘Independent’ doesn’t identify the rapist; from that you get a clue who or what the rapist are.

      The way it works here in New England is, if the rapist were a white guy, that fact is in every sentence. On the other hand if the rapist is a member of this or that venerated ‘minority’ group, it is never mentioned, just that he is a rapist.

      This is an ironclad rule, it never varies.


      • tucsonspur August 29, 2017 at 12:34 am #

        Loud and clear from the back row.

      • janet August 29, 2017 at 12:35 am #

        The way it works here in New England is, if the rapist were a white guy, that fact is in every sentence. — brh

        This is false, brh.I challenge you to provide a link to a single story that contains a reference to white or caucasian “in every sentence” or even in ONE sentence.

        brh, it’s called media because it’s more than text. Stories often show photos. If the photo is of an African-American, it is not necessary to spell that out in the text. For example, this story:


  40. janet August 28, 2017 at 11:42 pm #

    “…under assault by low forms incapable of appreciating the creative genius… ” –tucsonspur

    Here you are showing your own lack of appreciation for Islam’s contribution to European culture. Muslims are indigenous Europeans, who were founding universities, advancing culture in so many ways during Euope’s dark ages when whites couldn’t figure out what to do with their own shit (figuratively and literally).

    Europe later (several hundred years later) built upon Islamic learning and knowlege. Muslims belong in Europe as much as “low form” whites who killed several million whites in 20th century low form white on white violence.

    • tucsonspur August 29, 2017 at 12:52 am #

      Why no mention of the destruction of sculptures, statues, and other works of art thousands of years old by these low life vermin?

      Stop living in the Middle Ages. Even then, who knows what they may have taken from the Babylonians or Greeks or Italians. What are they creating now, with their asses pointing skyward and heads in the dirt, except world wide mayhem?

    • messianicdruid August 31, 2017 at 9:09 am #

      All empires go through such cycles. It makes no one superior to accomplish the same steps of build up and dissolution over and over.

      “To derive any useful instruction from
      history, it seems to me essential first of all to
      grasp the principle that history, to be
      meaningful, must be the history of the
      human race. For history is a continuous
      process, gradually developing, changing and
      turning back, but in general moving forward
      in a single mighty stream. Any useful lessons
      to be derived must be learned by the study of
      the whole flow of human development, not
      by the selection of short periods here and
      there in one country or another.

      Every age and culture is derived from its
      predecessors, adds some contribution of its
      own, and passes it on to its successors. If we
      boycott various periods of history, the
      origins of the new cultures which succeeded
      them cannot be explained.”


  41. Pucker August 29, 2017 at 12:28 am #

    Military Industrial Complex


  42. janet August 29, 2017 at 12:43 am #


    The ACLU of Maryland filed a lawsuit Monday on behalf of several transgender service members challenging Trump’s ban on transgender troops joining the military, per the AP. ACLU lawyers said Trump gave “no evidence” that the ban is based on analysis of “actual cost and disruption allegedly caused by allowing men and women who are transgender to serve openly.”

    • JimInFlorida August 29, 2017 at 8:15 am #

      Fags, freaks, flakes, trannies, and dykes should ALL be kicked out!
      Whatever “job” they do is irrelevant. They are a disruption and a distraction. Furthermore, they are a naked insult to the tattered remnant of what’s left of the normal social fabric. Their very existence is SOLELY to enable “You Know Who” to pursue their ongoing social engineering agenda.

      For Trump to argue feckless metrics like “cost” and other financial concerns is to avoid the real argument. In this case, there is no argument. On face value alone, these misfits should be kicked out and a clear message declared. Not only are they not needed, or wanted, but, they are a liability. They can, and will be, replaced.

    • benr August 29, 2017 at 9:55 am #

      I already KNOW the answer to this BUT Janet have you EVER served in the Military…don’t lie.
      I know for a fact you have not.
      Ever had to live with 35- 80 humans packed into a very small smelly area?
      I promise you transgenderism is a form of mental illness (as labeled by the WHO) and it affects the quality of life of everyone around them.
      As someone has said already everything becomes drama about their problems and their mental illness. This drama is even more pronounced when their hormone therapy can’t get regulated!
      There are plenty of reasons people can’t serve in the military mental illness tops the list. The military is not about the individual but the whole and people that have not served don’t understand and never will!

      • JimInFlorida August 29, 2017 at 10:34 am #

        Janet **claims** to be an ex-U.S. Marine. She will even sometimes close her nonsense with, “American by birth, Marine by choice. Semper Fi.”

        She was Affirmative Action Gold (female, non-White, Jewish) and, after boot camp, pushed paper in Washington or some NWO post in Colorado. Janet could be janet and not fear any displeasure from her superiors.

        THAT is how she could be a “veteran” and say the asinine things that she says here on CFN.

        • benr August 29, 2017 at 11:59 am #

          If she ever used the term EX Marine then she is lying you are never an ex only a former.
          The marines beat that firmly into anyone that served for any length of time.
          Close quarters living sure changes minds I have seen died in the wool liberals lose their minds and go staunch conservative after tight quarters living and serving for a few years.

          As the old saying goes “If you aren’t a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart, but if you aren’t a middle-aged conservative, you have no brain.”

          • JimInFlorida August 29, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

            “ex-Marine” was my description. I’d have to dig back into the CFN archives to see how janet claimed to be a U.S. Marine in the past. She DID use the aforementioned closing to some of her absurd comments.

            Again, I smell an EEOC triple play if she actually wore the uniform. Just proves you can put good clothes on ’em but, they’re still who they are.

        • elysianfield August 29, 2017 at 4:06 pm #

          Benr, JIF,

          I would expect that if there is a poster child for stolen valor, it would be…Janet.

  43. FincaInTheMountains August 29, 2017 at 1:01 am #

    US were considering suicide for the sake of Ukraine

    Outgoing US Envoy to Russia Confesses Sanctions on Russia ‘Blunt Instrument’

    The choice that was presented to the [former US President Barack] Obama administration was ‘Do you want war with Russia?’ Nobody wanted war with Russia,” Tefft said


    The way it was presented on Russian TV is stunning:

    Putin knew about this choice presented to Obama administration and ordered all nuclear submarine to the sea and all missiles to be ready for 3 minutes launch. By the way since that time Russia made or repaired 6 nuclear submarines all together capable to launch almost 1000 warheads 200Kt each.

    • JimInFlorida August 29, 2017 at 10:57 am #

      Kill The Billionaires or Billions Will Be Killed, It’s Just That Simple(TM).

      Our psychopathic Top 1% don’t care about nuclear war with Russia because of their luxury bunkers. They believe they can easily ride out the aftermath for 20 years or more.

      If Tsar Vladimir can GUARANTEE that THEY will die FIRST, even preemptively, if Washington pulls some stunt that puts Russia in mortal danger, then the billionaires will DO and PAY ANYTHING to save their own hides and stop the war.

      The Top 1% ALONE have the power to start AND STOP all such talk about agitating for a nuclear war. We Teh Serfs mean nothing to them.

      Didn’t Russia just lose about seven diplomats for unknown reasons? If Putin’s people find out that Washington or Brussels was involved, then seven ZOG-NATO billionaires should be found dead for the same “unknown reasons.”

      Finca has insider connections to Putin himself. I will be happy to review Russia’s defense protocols and show how my Billionaire Extermination Deterrent can be integrated into their plans. The cost-benefit of X’ing 500 billionaires to achieve peace is infinitely superior to launching 500 nuclear missiles.

      • beantownbill. August 29, 2017 at 11:48 am #

        More ludicrous statements from you. You generalize. Every single billionaire is responsible for our current situation? What about someone worth $999,999,999.99? They aren’t a billionaire. Does this mean they’re ok and should be allowed to live? Heaven forbid their net worth doesn’t rise by one penny. Then they should die.

        Saying billionaires don’t care if there’s a nuclear war because they have adequate shelter is totally illogical. What person would rather live indefinitely underground and not lift their face to the sun?

        Oh, yeah. Most billionaires have much of their wealth in real estate, which would end up worthless in a world-wide nuclear conflagration.
        Which begs the question of how, with no legitimate money, do they maintain power in their bunkers? Forget about needing specialists like doctors and surgeons, electricians, plumbers,and the like. You think a billionaire can do much more than change a light bulb?

        You repeatedly state the world is ruled by Jews. How many are billionaires? The rest of us Jews, including Israelis, would be blown away in a nuclear war. Yeah,I’m sure zionists want a war. Where would Zion be – 200 feet underground?

        You try to come across as an intelligent man, but your blind hatred has considerably diminished your brain power.

        • JimInFlorida August 29, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

          I have intentionally kept “the Jews” out for your sake. So, it’s your fault if JHK reads this and is offended.

          “Billionaires” are a cancer on the body-politic and they use their wealth to buy political power. In so doing, they price out We Teh Serfs from being able to buy meaningful input into the political process. Real estate destroyed in a war enables the greatest increase in value i.e. from ruins to fully rebuilt. THAT is the lure of war for these psychotics.

          Billionaires might not, as individuals, be warping space and time but, that job is delegated to their lieutenants who serve them with the utmost rapacity and lust.

          The billionaires who were spawned in the toxic soil of Reaganomics were created to receive the hundreds of trillions in wealth; stolen from the nations. TPTB want the world’s wealth transferred into private hands and AWAY FROM the democratic process where the masses have a say. Let alone have any expectation of receiving the dividends of national progress.

          The empty husk of nation-states are becoming a liability to the elite billionaires and a nuclear war would be a convenient way to remove that burden.

          YOU, beantownbill, are having trouble accepting that such psychopaths exist, let function in capacities far above the Heads of States.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 29, 2017 at 1:00 pm #

          You’re forgetting your basic Marxism: the Billionaires have class consciousness before anyone else does.

          You don’t like his proposal? How about the ancient one of fostering your enemy’s children and they yours. When the Byzantines invaded Italy, they pushed the Germanic rulers out for a time, but the Germans killed their sons. So it doesn’t always work, but no deterrent is 100%.

          • JimInFlorida August 29, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

            Thanks Janos. In my passions, I sometimes forget the important details.

            I have a WW2 story to illustrate my pre-war stage deterrent proposal.

            In one U.S. Army platoon (while on German soil) was a former racketeer’s bodyguard. His favorite stunt was to creep into a German camp and go into a tent where two German soldiers were sleeping. He would slit the throat of ONLY ONE and leave him there for his companion to see in the morning. That stunt would leave the entire camp in terror!

            Going on that example, I am asking Vladimir Putin to leverage it up by taking out some very key billionaires in order to utterly terrorize the rest. Thereby achieving damn near 100% deterrence.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 29, 2017 at 8:54 pm #

            No, I love your memo to Putin. I was addressing Bill, to see if he would object to a much weaker example of the general principle.

  44. FincaInTheMountains August 29, 2017 at 1:04 am #

    American Media was trying to manufacture support for a new HOT war. Several million degrees hot

    This is unacceptable. You don’t get to lie to the American people for nine months, terrify them with fact-free ghost stories that their nation has been taken over by a hostile foreign body, use their terror to manufacture support for a new cold war, and then change the subject to Nazis and Joe Arpaio as soon as evidence emerges that you’ve been reporting blatant falsehoods.


  45. jim e August 29, 2017 at 1:40 am #


    • jim e August 29, 2017 at 1:48 am #

      My Yankee friend!

      • jim e August 29, 2017 at 1:49 am #


          • jim e August 29, 2017 at 1:57 am #


          • jim e August 29, 2017 at 2:18 am #

            I re-entered the car culture a few months ago… I meant no ill will when I posted about Buc-ee’s, It is an easy addiction… My youngest daughter lives near Houston… Cypress… Soon to be Lawyer, married to a great guy that teaches football at a nearby historically Black University. I took the BUS when I went to meet my newborn GRANDSON. I am not the problem. I believe in the flat earth and YAHSUYAH. Jesus soakin”…

  46. jim e August 29, 2017 at 2:48 am #

    May I flap some more?

    • jim e August 29, 2017 at 2:52 am #

      Is it true that the moons shadow is warmer than its light?

      • jim e August 29, 2017 at 3:11 am #

        He kicked me out.

        • jim e August 29, 2017 at 3:17 am #

          hunter s

          • jim e August 29, 2017 at 3:33 am #

            “I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they’ve always worked for me.”

  47. messianicdruid August 29, 2017 at 9:28 am #

    “Only when she [ janet ] gets more “cultural enrichment” than she bargained for is when her eyes may finally be opened. But, somehow, she will blame cis-gendered White Males if it happens.”

    Eyes opening ?! Is the Fakestream News Media finally getting sick on its own poison?


  48. KesaAnna August 29, 2017 at 9:34 am #

    ““Higher education,” has been debased to accommodate the abilities of the barely literate. ”

    No , not at all . The elementary and high school educations we compulsorily pay through the nose for have been debased to serve the ends of the ruling class.

    • volodya August 29, 2017 at 10:56 am #

      And the ends of the ruling class is to keep people barely literate and numerate and ignorant. And impoverished and docile and desperate and easily manipulated.

    • elysianfield August 29, 2017 at 4:27 pm #

      “The elementary and high school educations we compulsorily pay through the nose for have been debased to serve the ends of the ruling class.”

      Very cynical, but…accurate to a degree.

    • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 1:28 pm #

      Yes so true so true. The history they teach is truly tragic. I went to mostly Catholic schools, and they were even worse, if that’s possible. The other stuff like math, english, chemistry, physics weren’t bad.

  49. KesaAnna August 29, 2017 at 9:45 am #

    ” The ACLU of Maryland filed a lawsuit Monday on behalf of several transgender service members challenging Trump’s ban on transgender troops joining the military, per the AP. ACLU lawyers said Trump gave “no evidence” that the ban is based on analysis of “actual cost and disruption allegedly caused by allowing men and women who are transgender to serve openly.” ”

    to speak of transsexuals serving openly is a contradiction in terms.

    The whole idea is to pass as , and be accepted as , the opposite gender.

    it is , at the very least, an exercise in the starkest futility to call yourself Janice , when , behind your back , everyone is still calling you Jim.

    I very much doubt these people are actually transsexuals.

    It is some sort of Potemkin village, and these are agents provocateurs.

  50. KesaAnna August 29, 2017 at 10:07 am #

    ” in fact Islam is not our enemy. Three million Muslims live peacefully in the United States. They are not killing us like white supremacists are.

    Muslims support western freedom and enjoy living here. They are our friends. They are my personal friends. This country was founded on the principle of freedom to worship … or not to worship. That includes Muslims. ”

    Islam is certainly better than , ” He who dies with the most toys wins “.

    Islam is better than secular Humanism , it’s better than Nihilism masquerading as Atheism , it is better than those religions -without – a clue Statism and Etatism.

    But , somehow, I doubt that is what you mean to say.

    As for the rest ; Good Grief ! I had learned by the age of 6 that the most dangerous bully is not the one who punches you in the nose in front of the teacher.

    That alone nixes the leaping unicorns and rainbows.

  51. budizwiser August 29, 2017 at 10:14 am #

    Speaking of “flapping wings” and butterflies – grappling with a true understanding of the enormity of the weather disturbance in the Gulf is currently inestimable.

    I’ve traveled the entire Gulf Coast and spent time in several of the cities that were heavily damaged from the current storm. My experience and touring of the coastal beaches opened my eyes to the incredible amounts of refuse that wash into the Gulf with each storm.

    The effects of the current flooding and subsequent ground-water “float off” generated by the artifacts and garbage of our so-called civilization – “or coastal communities” will be well beyond anything in known history.

    I’m sure most readers already knew the Gulf of Mexico was already severely polluted. But this event may the new measure of what marine damage to expect from all coastal flooding in the future.

    • beantownbill. August 29, 2017 at 12:04 pm #

      The immediate issue is escaping the floodwaters. Once that emergency passes, yeah, they have to deal with the aftermath – major pollution and clean-up – and dealing with the loss of all their possessions and homes. That’s a major psychic shock.

      Although I’ve been to Florida a lot, and visited New Orleans and Baton Rouge 3 times, I never paid attention to or studied the immediate vicinity for garbage and pollution (this is before Katrina and Blackwater). Is it really that bad?

      • budizwiser August 29, 2017 at 7:33 pm #

        The scope of developed real estate being flooded is beyond anything i am aware of. I’m only guessing it will result is an unprecedented flow of debris to the Gulf.

        The Houston metro area is far more populous than most areas along the Gulf.

  52. volodya August 29, 2017 at 10:51 am #

    Malthus, I saw your comment and that’s why I read this blog. You’re exactly right, what if his name was Ernie Lynch. Would his face be plastered on millions of T-Shirts? No way Jose. Ernie Lynch would be at best a footnote to history.

    • KesaAnna August 29, 2017 at 11:42 am #

      Whenever I see a Che T-shirt I think of that old song , ” Lord won’t you buy me a Mercedes-Benz “.

      Sure, he had a cool name , but I think it also helped a lot that he was born with a silver spoon up his ass , that he was handsome ( though the cruelty in his face is as obvious as the cruelty in Hillary Clinton’s face ) that he was screwing the pick of the litter , that he could afford to buy a ticket to Paris one week, and buy a ticket to New York city the next week, and could buy a ticket to Buenes Aires the week after that.

      And they actually gloss over the part where he becomes a stinking corpse that smells .

      And gloss over the part where his “heroic sacrifice ” , consistent with the Atheism he claimed , means ultimately his getting himself killed will be remembered, will be appreciated, will benefit……nobody.
      Dust knows no history or causes.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 29, 2017 at 1:06 pm #

        Yeah, pretty boy got himself a real quick trial by Peruvian authorities and then a firing squad. He thought he was going to get a press conference! Such a non-televised finale must have been hell for pretty boy – or the beginning of it.

        We know Elrond and Seawolf adore him, but where does Ozone stand on Che?

        • elysianfield August 29, 2017 at 4:17 pm #

          “Yeah, pretty boy got himself a real quick trial by Peruvian authorities and then a firing squad.”

          Your statement may be incorrect. I had a close personal friend, now deceased, who met the E-5 special forces operator who killed him. He was given no trial, and further offered his services to remain alive. Personal friend was a retired Captain USA (retired) who was in Army Intelligence and ran operatives in Panama.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 29, 2017 at 8:57 pm #

            Well he got a KKK trial. A few good old Peruvians sit down for a minute and agree, “Si, el esta guiltado.” Excuse my French.

        • Elrond Hubbard August 30, 2017 at 9:57 am #

          Woodwork squeaks and out come the freaks…

          As ever, Janos can be counted on to put words in my mouth. And as ever, anyone who buys what he says deserves the resulting ignominy.

          I’ve heard of Che Guevara, but I’ve never paid him much attention. He sounds like a violent prick from what I know.

          As a joke, I once gifted my girlfriend a T-shirt bearing his famous photo. The joke fell flat because she had no idea who he was. Later, we broke up.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

            “I’ve heard of Che Gueverra” – just like Obama might have met Bill Ayers once. In fact they were close friends and comrades who worked together. Ayers may have written his books.

            Never forget: the Left are Liars from the beginning, just like their Father in Hell.

          • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

            The left are liars. So alliterative, it must be true.

      • malthuss August 29, 2017 at 3:11 pm #

        One rumor is that he was so bad for Castros empire that Fidel C sent him off, hoping he would be killed in Bolivia.

      • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

        He dug motorcycles. He can’t be all bad.

    • malthuss August 29, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

      I have speechless in the face of such praise.

      His dad dropped the Irish last name.

      ‘Che’ had no mestizo blood. None.
      The horror tales of his killing [killing a 14? year old who stole food]
      are brushed aside.
      Instead, ‘The Motor Psycho diaries’…baaaaaa.

  53. thwack August 29, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

    Three rules for a Floyd Maywether fight.

    1. Nobody gets hurt.

    2. Everybody gets paid.

    3. Floyd wins.

    For 2 million I would let Floyd Maywether shoot me point blank in the stomach with a 9mm,

    live pay per view.

    Just sayin

    • seawolf77 August 29, 2017 at 1:19 pm #

      Can’t argue with 50-0. But I see your point. He is a slippery little fuck.

  54. beantownbill. August 29, 2017 at 1:31 pm #


    Please don’t be disingenuous. Your post mentioned ZOG-NATO billionaires, if not Jew outright. What the hell does ZOG mean, anyway? Shishkabob?

    Also, after a nuclear war, the land would remain poisonous for generations, and would have no value. You know that! At least be honest and state you hate Jews.

    • malthuss August 29, 2017 at 3:16 pm #

      You spew plenty of hate here.
      Doubt that? Check your comments.

      ZOG–Zionist Occupied Government.

      How many Trillions does USA fund Israel with?

      AIPAC, mentioned TWICE by NY Times in 50 years. Or was it mentioned 3 times?

      How many Nukes does Israel have? 300? But denies their existence.

      Who programmed you to never see their hidden hand, who owns the media, who runs the un-auditable Fed Reserve, who brings in the illegals and “refugees”, who hypes the race wars, disarms the police, and who wants and benefits from endless war and destruction in the middle east.

      • elysianfield August 29, 2017 at 4:24 pm #

        “Who programmed you to never see their hidden hand, who owns the media, who runs the un-auditable Fed Reserve, who brings in the illegals and “refugees”, who hypes the race wars, disarms the police, and who wants and benefits from endless war and destruction in the middle east”

        There was this book written a thousand or so years ago that gave Jews a bad name…the book followed them around…apparently a lot of people read it…studied it. The rest is the same hatred/envy due anyone more successful than ourselves.

        CHRIST WAS A JEW!~Portnoy’s Complaint

        • capt spaulding August 29, 2017 at 8:13 pm #

          The first Christians were Jews. Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism, one might go so far as to say that it is a Jewish cult that turned out to be very successful.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 29, 2017 at 9:10 pm #

            And do you think the Jews are Ok with that? They thought they were the ones who were going to inherit the World. In any case, God helps those who help themselves and they intend to overthrow our Race, Religion, and Civilization.

          • beantownbill. August 30, 2017 at 12:01 am #

            Capt, I’ve had the exact thought in the same words you just used that Christianity was a Jewish cult. I’ve never posted this viewpoint because I didn’t want to have to defend it from all the Jew haters here. I also always thought that the main difference between Jewish/Christian populations is that Jews generally don’t try to convert others to their religion, whereas Christians do.

          • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

            The idea that the Romans would come to worship a Jew is so farcical on its face that I cannot believe anyone thinks this happened. The Romans hated the Jews. Anti-semitism began with Rome.

  55. wm5135 August 29, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

    and now a brief commercial for the CFN blog –

    Why would you eliminate everything experiencing price inflation from the metric, if price inflation was really the game? Much like true health care, bad for you good for me?

    It has already been established it not your fault, give it a ……. rest.

  56. messianicdruid August 29, 2017 at 5:13 pm #

    “Russia’s President Putin has succeeded in freeing Russia from Rothschild slavery to the international banking system.

    In June last year President Putin banned Jacob Rothschild and his New World Order banking cartel family from entering Russian territory “under any circumstances,” and now, just over one year later, Putin has declared “total independence” from the global banking cartel and Rothschild international money lending organizations.

    Declaring the achievement the “greatest gift” that can be given to future generations, Putin hosted a party in the Kremlin to celebrate the achievement.

    “They said we couldn’t do it, they said we would be destroyed,” Putin told staff and senior associates. “Our future generations will be born without Rothschild chains around their wrists and ankles.”

    “This is the greatest gift we can give them.”


    • FincaInTheMountains August 29, 2017 at 7:46 pm #

      Total and complete BS!

      Russians always have worked and will be working with Western financiers, for example Tsar Alexander III worked with Rothschild, Stalin worked with Rockefeller and not sure of Putin preferences.

      Russian bonds always had an excellent history of repayments and I hope it’ll stay that way.

      Of course one has to be careful and perform a thorough due diligence working with Western Financiers, but you can’t completely abandon external cooperation, especially in new and risky technologies.

      • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

        I have heard China also has no Rothschild central bank. Has anyone lived there to confirm? Russia or China.

  57. janet August 29, 2017 at 5:18 pm #

    CHRIST WAS A JEW! –elysianfield

    And Christ was a leftist who hung out with the transgendered, prostitutes, and people who he convinced to leave their gainful employment … and families … just to hang out with him in his hippy-dippy traveling commune.. Christ was into free stuff … dumpster diving, turning water into wine, feeding multitudes without charging money. I doubt he touched money, like a Digger in that way. He was the original anti-prepper who trusted in existence to provide.

    • Walter B August 29, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

      All science trembles before the searing logic of your fiery intellect.

      • janet August 29, 2017 at 5:46 pm #

        Thanks, Walter, but I wasn’t talking about scince. Nontheless, I appreciate the compliment. The credit mus go to my midwest public school education which taught me to question authority and to think critically. Thank God for Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayers, Dorothy Day, Andrea Dworkin, and Frances Fox Pivens!

        Janet Fantifa

        • Walter B August 29, 2017 at 6:28 pm #

          Neither was I. I was fortunate myself in getting a superior education. One that taught me to question everything, especially authority, yet did not leave me with a large void that could be filled by whatever it was that came along afterward. You take good care my dear and be well. The world can only get better if we all do so as best we can.

    • janet August 29, 2017 at 5:31 pm #

      My reference is to the San Francisco Diggers.


    • thwack August 29, 2017 at 5:47 pm #

      Jesus Christ was a Hebrew.

      The Jew is a rejector of Christ.

      Therefore the Jew is a theological construct.

      • janet August 29, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

        “The Jew is a rejector of Christ.” –thwack

        “The Jew”?!?!?!?

        Judaism accepts Jesus. After all Jesus was Jewish… because he had a Jewish mother. Judaism respects Jesus as a learned teacher, but not as the Messiah. Christians got that wrong.

        Jews are great people. I would argue the greatest. They are chosen more than any others as Nobel Prize winners for their marvelous contributions. The world needs millions more Jews!

        Janet Fantifa

        • thwack August 29, 2017 at 6:34 pm #

          “After all Jesus was Jewish… because he had a Jewish mother”



          As per prophecy. The HEBREWS were awaiting the Messiah.

          When the Messiah arrived in the body of Jesus Christ, the HEBREWS had a choice to either accept him, or reject him.

          Those who accepted him became the Catholic Church.

          Those who rejected him became


          The Jew can be anything he wants as long as he is first and foremost a rejector of Christ.

          But if he is not a rejector of Christ, he cannot be a Jew.

          The Jew is a theological construct.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 29, 2017 at 9:18 pm #

            Absolutely True. A Jew can be a Buddhist or a Hindu and still remain a Jew – as the identity is ethnic now and has been for a long time. But Christian? No. An exception is made there.

            On the other hand, things may be changing as many have adopted a kind of Christianity – the kind that makes Christ into a Jew. In other words, they have appropriated Him for themselves. When the Anti-Christ comes, they and their Gentile Zio-Cuck brethren will worship Him along with the regular Jews. So? So it’s a false Christianity that makes God into a Big Jew. In other words, Christ is defined by his Jewishness instead of just happening to be Jewish. Thus He becomes a Tribal Deity in their reinterpretation instead of the Lord of the Universe. Of course they like the idea of a Jew as Lord of the Universe. They would, wouldn’t they?

        • Walter B August 29, 2017 at 6:36 pm #

          You want a real rush? Check out a Messianic Jew such as Johnathan Cahn or Stephen Ben-Nun. It will make a gentile who knows, smile with understanding at the sound of their faith.

    • messianicdruid August 29, 2017 at 9:22 pm #

      Christ was a judahite. See how that works.

      • messianicdruid August 30, 2017 at 11:15 am #

        I made an entry after this one, last night, and received a response from Janos criticizing my supposed inability to generalize.

        We were discussing a dog breed [ Pit Bulls ]. Did I imagine this?

        • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

          Demonic laughter fills the ether of cyber space. Someone is intent on foisting pit bulls on the American People. Or was it that I was making too much sense again? Or do certain people hate analogical thinking – cuz it is just too illuminating? And the Illuminati don’t like the Light.

          • messianicdruid August 30, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

            The problem was your over generalizing. Your reasoning applied to dogs, not a specific breed.

            Like calling a chihuahua a killer. I’m saying – stop attributing characteristics of one kind to all.

          • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 12:53 pm #

            Didn’t Jesus own a pitbull? Or was he a chihuahua kind of guy like Janos? A lot of yapping, and nothing more.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

            No, you have it backwards. Some breeds, like Pit Bulls, are dangerous. Other breeds, like Golden Retrievers tend not to be.

            You are over-generalizing.

            Most dogs when angered will circle around barking. They’re looking for their missing pack mates before they attack. Pit Bulls are quite different: they know their strength and come straight on.

          • messianicdruid August 30, 2017 at 8:25 pm #

            “No, you have it backwards. Some breeds, like Pit Bulls, are dangerous. Other breeds, like Golden Retrievers tend not to be.”

            Some people like banksters [ or the others I mentioned ] are dangerous. Other people [ insert label here ] tend not to be.

            So now that you are saying what I was pointing out to you, * I’m * over generalizing. Got it.

  58. Pucker August 29, 2017 at 7:46 pm #

    I had a layover at the Hilton Garden Inn Hotel at the Washington DC airport near the Pentagon once. I would stand in the hotel room window jet lagged and naked looking out at the shining, grand,imposing, ominous signage of the Lockheed Martin building and think about the fact that Dick Cheney’s wife was on the Board of Directors of Lockheed Martin on 9-11.


    • Walter B August 29, 2017 at 7:59 pm #

      I hope that you took advantage of the opportunity and mooned them. I would have. We may not be allowed to judge them but the occasional display of discontent cannot be all that damning. Those who profit by the deaths of others receive little pity from the Spirit that rules over the next realm. I will not judge them, you may not judge them, but judged they will surely be.

  59. Pucker August 29, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

    The Founding Fathers in the US Constitution gave us a system of government with strong states, which, but for Lincoln’s destruction of that system, would have prevented the rise of US Empire and the Military Industrial Complex. But Empire was more profitable and better able to feed the Power Needs of the Empire Builders. Thanks Honest Abe….

    • Walter B August 29, 2017 at 8:04 pm #

      No matter who did what or what may have happened if this or that was or was not done, where this empire is today was inevitable and I think you know that too. There are no 1,000 foot tall trees in any forest are there? This is because the natural order has limitations and once a thing has reached it’s peak, it grows old, feeble, then falls on its face and dies. Embrace the inevitable, after all it IS inevitable.

      • capt spaulding August 29, 2017 at 8:23 pm #

        All empires fail eventually, and have done so throughout history. It’s a cycle. The one thing that has changed is the hand of technology. As technology advances, it speeds things up, including the life cycle of empires. The Egyptians lasted 6000 years, and in the succeeding centuries as technology slowly advanced, the cycle of empires shortened. There’s nothing new under the sun.

        • Pucker August 29, 2017 at 8:50 pm #

          On Easter Island, did they start cannibalizing their young and begin smashing statues?

          • capt spaulding August 29, 2017 at 9:11 pm #

            What’s your point?

          • thwack August 29, 2017 at 10:21 pm #

            Did they know which bathroom to use?

  60. janet August 29, 2017 at 8:33 pm #

    Jesus was not the Messiah. Just look at the state of the world today for proof. According to The Holy Bible, the Messiah will:

    Ezekiel 37:26-28: Build the Third Temple

    Isaiah 43:5-6: Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel

    Isaiah 2:4: Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore.”

    Zechariah 14:9: Spread universal knowledge of the G-d of Israel – uniting the entire human race as one: “G-d will be King over all the world—on that day, G-d will be One and His Name will be One”

    Jesus fulfilled NONE of these messianic prophecies. Fake messiah. Weak.

    • messianicdruid August 29, 2017 at 9:42 pm #

      “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation. For this they are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the great day of judgement and perdition of ungodly men…The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering [ patient ] towards us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentence [ changed mind ].

      It ain’t over until it’s over.

      • thwack August 29, 2017 at 10:30 pm #

        The Jews were waiting on the Messiah; but their concept of a Messiah was a guy that acts like Donald Trump; Loud, obnoxious, impulsive, rude, narcissistic…

        So when Jesus showed up,

        they killed him.

        at least they thought they did?

        (better luck next time)

  61. janet August 29, 2017 at 8:51 pm #

    “All empires fail eventually…” –capt spaulding

    So what? The British empire “failed” and the UK is thriving. The Roman Empire “failed” yet Italy and Rome are alive and well. Etc.

    The failure of the American Empire would be a good thing, and America will continue to exist and thrive. We will spend less on the military when we don’t have to maintain military bases all over the world … and our quality of life will actually improve.

    • capt spaulding August 29, 2017 at 9:16 pm #

      I never said that the countries evaporated, I simply said that their empires failed. By the way, I honored your request awhile back to stop replying to your tedious posts. Could you perhaps return the favor?

      • janet August 29, 2017 at 9:41 pm #

        Tedious? You have not honored your word, so we are back to commenting on each other’s fascinating and informative posts.

        But when you say “most” who post here will die, I must take exception. We are all guaranteed the death experience.

        And all our toys must stay behind. Friends and family must stay behind. Only one thing we can take with us: awareness.

        If we have cultivated the ability to witness through vipassana practice … the ability to fully embrace, celebrate, and witness what happens in the moment of death and what follows that moment of the dissolution of body/mind.

      • janet August 29, 2017 at 9:45 pm #

        “I never said that the countries evaporated, I simply said that their empires failed.”

        And I asked, “so what?” It’s not a big deal. Like death, it is inevitable. Embrace it. Celebrate it. Or at least give some indication of why you even bothered to make such an obvious comment.

  62. janet August 29, 2017 at 8:59 pm #

    “…once a thing has reached it’s peak, it grows old, feeble, then falls on its face and dies. Embrace the inevitable, after all it IS inevitable.”

    Roger that! I am so looking forward to the experience of a natural and conscious death, and what happens after death. I have fully embraced the inevitable… so exciting!

    • capt spaulding August 29, 2017 at 9:20 pm #

      An event anticipated indeed by most of the people who post here. Godspeed in your efforts.

      • janet August 29, 2017 at 9:49 pm #

        Thank you. Anticipation indeed. The fact of coming death makes every day being alive that much more enjoyable as the day approaches… just the anticipation of such an adventure is exciting.

    • Q. Shtik August 29, 2017 at 10:32 pm #

      I am so looking forward to the experience of a natural and conscious death, and what happens after death. – janet


      Hate to break it to you but NOTHING happens after death. That’s what makes it so scary…all shit stops happening. Every living thing knows this intuitively.

      • janet August 29, 2017 at 11:11 pm #

        “Hate to break it to you but NOTHING happens after death. That’s what makes it so scary…all shit stops happening.” –Q

        Hate to break it to you but all shit stops happening every time you sleep at night and enter a deep dreamless sleep state: no consciousness of body or mind. No guarantee of making it through the night. Not scary at all. Most of us do it every night… again with no guarantee of seeing tomorrow. Scary? No. As natural as death is.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 2:31 am #

        What do you think has become of the young and old men?
        And what do you think has become of the women and the children?

        They are alive and well somewhere.
        The smallest sprout shows there is really no death,
        And if ever there was it led forward life, and does not wait at the end to arrest it,
        And ceas’d the moment life appear’d.

        All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses,
        And to die is different from any one supposed, and luckier.

        Walt Whitman, Song of Myself

      • elysianfield August 30, 2017 at 12:07 pm #

        “Every living thing knows this intuitively”


        Generally agree with your viewpoint, however only man conceptualizes death…and “being”…and religion.

  63. janet August 29, 2017 at 9:06 pm #

    North Korea’s missile launch on Tuesday was a prelude to more military operations directed at the US territory of Guam, North Korean state media said Wednesday. Trump meekly repeated, for the fourth time that all options are glued to the table. Weak. Loser.

    • Dumbedup August 31, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

      I think we should start shooting them down. So what if we miss a few. We will get better at it and refine our anti-missile systems.

  64. routersurfer August 29, 2017 at 10:24 pm #

    Butterflies??? Feels like a huge flock of Black Swans. Great read JHK.

  65. routersurfer August 29, 2017 at 10:27 pm #

    BTW, to all the jerks chanting ” Jews will not replace us” if only we had enough Jews to replace these creatures. The Swans swarm.

  66. Walter B August 29, 2017 at 10:51 pm #

    The horror, the horror…..

  67. janet August 29, 2017 at 11:21 pm #

    “The Jews were waiting on the Messiah; So when Jesus showed up,
    they killed him. at least they thought they did?
    (better luck next time)” — thwack

    oh, he dead… ain’t nobody seen nor heard from him for 2,000 years. Fake messiah.

    But the Jews didn’t kill him. The Romans did. He was a leftist and cosidered dangerous as a rabble rouser among the poor and against the rich like billionaire Trump.

    • elysianfield August 30, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

      “But the Jews didn’t kill him. The Romans did”

      Curiosity did not kill the cat…my Buick did!

      • janet August 30, 2017 at 3:01 pm #


        The Romans killed Jesus by actually being the people who put Jesus on the cross. … If some Jewish leaders had a hand in Jesus’ death, that does not implicate the entire Jewish nation.

        • thwack August 30, 2017 at 7:16 pm #

          “his blood be upon us AND OUR CHILDREN”

          Don’t make me come out the bag on you?

  68. BackRowHeckler August 29, 2017 at 11:36 pm #

    To JiminFlorida,

    Much impressed with your knowledge of the ‘Osprey’ aircraft, and its inherent problems. It seems you have not a little training in aeronautics and engineering. Good post.

    To OzPete,

    Package arrived. Much appreciated, thanks. Some beautiful photos … the fit, form and function of those classic vintage British motorcycles equaled only by the Willys Jeep, Winchester lever rifle, and North American P-51 Mustang.


    • JimInFlorida August 30, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

      Thanx BRH,

      The equally knowledgeable would point out that most all traditional planform aircraft balance across the wing and have a limited fore-aft CG.

      BUT…. the wing and empennage are both flying in the same air and delivering opposing forces that balance across the wing. Plus, there’s usually LOTS of altitude beneath to allow for a correction if something goes wrong!

      The Caspian Sea Monster (ekranoplan) used a special Wing In Ground Effect lifting plane that had a LOT more pressure captured underneath. The empennage was high up and out of ground effect. Two planes experiencing two qualitatively different flying conditions AND… very importantly…. it was flying just a meter or two above the water. If a gust hits it or the water suddenly presents high waves, there’s no cushion for error! The ekranoplan CAN fly out of ground effect IF it’s not fully loaded but, the efficiency is completely lost. On smooth water, the Caspian Sea Monster worked beautifully. It could lift ENORMOUS WEIGHT and be more efficient than anything else considering the fuel vs speed vs payload. But, what good is a machine like that if it can only be safely operated on smooth water?

      Had the Caspian Sea Monster been developed with TWO WIG planes, positioned on the extreme fore and aft parts of the fuselage, THEN it would have succeeded. It would be inherently stable for the same reason as the four-propeller drone. Lift on four far corners and the center of mass in the middle; with a generous CG envelope.

      I just wanted to clarify my earlier comment.

      • messianicdruid August 31, 2017 at 9:22 am #

        For a mere two hundred grand you can get a two-person drone with GPS.

  69. BackRowHeckler August 30, 2017 at 12:41 am #

    It looks like more than a few esteemed Houston residents are using the great flood of 2017 to go on a shopping spree. And what a shopping spree! Flat screen TVs, in fact electronics of all kinds, seem to be the favored commodities. What seems kind of funny is the big screen TVs carried out of the store on the backs of ‘community’ residents aren’t in boxes, and the proud new owners seem to be running down the street with them. I’m assuming they’re in a big hurry to get home and watch PBS Newshour.

    There’s shopping going on in local package and grocery stores too. No receipts issued, none requested.


    • elysianfield August 30, 2017 at 12:11 pm #


      Neighbor helping neighbor…Kumbaya Bitches!

  70. pequiste August 30, 2017 at 1:01 am #

    Wow. Janet never ceases to amaze even little old cynical me.

    Worships the likes of Andrea Dworkin and Bill Ayers and then has the brass to say Jesus Christ is the fake messiah.

    “Janet” (Asoka.Carol/Newquist/WPA-CCC): CFN spokesperson for the Antichrist!

    Congratulations! You will be so very welcome at Lake Cocytus.

    • janet August 30, 2017 at 6:27 am #

      John 3:16

      Everlasting lies.

  71. pequiste August 30, 2017 at 1:04 am #

    Informationally, do any CFNers know that Lake Cocytus itself is formed from the tears of Lucifer himself, and the flapping of his wings keep it frozen. I thought I would include that tidbit as this weeks missive, about Houston’s watery catastrophe suggests the flapping of butterfly wings as the origin for hurricane Harvey.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 2:37 am #

      It’s hard not to love the great storms like Harvey and Katrina. The majesty and power – veritable incarnations of Shiva the Destroyer. Of course if I was in the situation or nearby, I’d feel differently and feel afraid or bad for the suffering people. But from a distance, I am free to admire, nay worship. All of us are going to die from something or other. Why not the Great Storms? Think how many would die without the airlift and aid. A great beginning in solving over population. Wind and Weather shall serve us yet in the War that is to come.

      • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

        You know your hair would look better if you blew dry it while taking a bath.

    • elysianfield August 30, 2017 at 12:14 pm #


      Sooo, there is Ice Water in Hell?…I was concerned….

  72. Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 2:52 am #

    Taking down the statues has caused a profound disturbance in the force – and Harvey is the resultant of unleashed forces. Make no mistake: the Left is playing with fire now. These are American heroes. The Confederates weren’t traitors, but patriots to their America. The Civil War was just American splitting into two Unions instead of one, both fully American. To cast them as traitors? Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread. There’s not a hair’s difference between the early Virginians like Washington and Jefferson and Robert E Lee. Allow Lee to be torn down and you’ll embolden the thugs – who are far more logical (though frightfully unwise and hateful) than many Establishment types who can’t be bothered to think.

    • thwack August 30, 2017 at 5:17 am #

      The Confederates weren’t traitors, but patriots to their America.


      But Janos,

      one of the main causes of the war was the question of the expansion of slavery into the new territories.

      The Confederates wanted to bring black slaves into these new areas; did you want that?

      How were free white men gonna be able to compete with slave labor?

      Or is this an example of a type of paradox that you racists
      routinely CHOOSE to ignore?

      • JimInFlorida August 30, 2017 at 9:02 am #

        Blacks weren’t freed from slavery. They were FIRED.

        That’s why the Corporate Promised Land of China was created. So the Top 1% could recover the rights of their caste AND…as an extra bonus…, not be burdened with the troubles of managing the slaves directly. A double victory.

        Blacks are going to have to really step it up to be worthy of domestic plantation slavery again.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

          Good one. Blacks can’t outwork Mexicans or Chinese work animals. The Chinese never even bothered with slavery, their own peasants were more than sufficient and the bloodlines were kept pure.

          And no man can be a better machine than a machine. How foolish is Kali Yuga humanity!

      • malthuss August 31, 2017 at 10:13 am #

        taki mag—–

        NickGranite ling chow ? • 2 days ago
        I read a story the last couple of days of a 12 year old black kid who hid a knife in the sand at a playground so he could kill a white child. He did, stabbing the 9 year old boy over and over. The photo of that little boy will both break and harden your heart at the same time.

        Sick Dr Joe NickGranite • 2 days ago
        No. People need to know the name of the murdered white child and the feral pickaninny who butchered him.
        The murdered boy was CONNOR VERKERKE and his subhuman murderer is named JAMARION LAWHORN (naturally).
        The Lawhorn boy’s defense was that he was abused at home by his equally-subhuman parents, Anita Lawhorn and Bernard Harrold. That this was doubtless true is still another reason why no white people of any common sense should want to live near blacks.
        As it is, remember this – were his grieving parents to explode in court and describe their son’s butcher, through tears, with the N word:

        -instant walk for perp
        -likely arrest and imprisonment of the bad-word-sayers, and dead son be damned

        – twice and probably ten times the media arriving in Grand Rapids to cover this case where “no one is innocent”, all of them rolling up their Pulitzer shirtsleeves to take their crack at a Portrait of Racism in America feature story, trying to pin the culpability on his parents for teaching their son racism, which as everyone with a tv or SmartPhone now knows, is grounds for justifiable homicide
        -sullen mooncrickets flanked by God knows how many antifa shitbirds follow the media into the city limits, readying their latest violent demonstration, in which the local politicians will make sure to instruct the cops to let the Orcs do what thou wilt, with sufficient space to destroy, taking special care to detain and arrest any whites – sorry, of course I mean white supremacists – daring to defend themselves, followed by

        -those same politicians twisting the grieving family’s arms to denounce white racism and call for “healing”, possibly offering to drop all racism charges in exchange for same
        Paranoia? Maybe. In 1990; possibly in 2000; still barely possible in 2010. But in 2017?

        • malthuss August 31, 2017 at 10:14 am #

          You, Thwack, have been Whacked.

          I remember this story well as there was a NY angle to it as the killer’s mother had legal problems in NY before moving away. The truly depressing part of this story is that after little Jamarion killed Connor, Connor’s parents reached out to Jamarion’s mother with a SYMPATHY card and money!
          They symbolize so much of what’s wrong with Whites today.

      • Dumbedup August 31, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

        Correct. They wanted to surround the slave states with free states and believed that slavery would die on it’s own. Despite its wording even the Corwin Amendment would have isolated slave states. But by then, (1861) the south had already begun to secede and when Lincoln was elected war became inevitable. Anyone who claims that the Civil War was not about slavery is either ignorant or is being intentionally provocative.

        But the effect of forcing the union to stay together cannot be denied. As Thomas Jefferson wrote to James Madison:

        “In your letter to Fisk, you have fairly stated the alternatives between which we are to choose : 1, licentious commerce and gambling speculations for a few, with eternal war for the many; or, 2, restricted commerce, peace, and steady occupations for all. If any State in the Union will declare that it prefers separation with the first alternative, to a continuance in union without it, I have no hesitation in saying, ‘let us separate’. I would rather the States should withdraw, which are for unlimited commerce and war, and confederate with those alone which are for peace and agriculture.”

        Arguably, forcing peoples with such diverse culture (morality aside for the moment) to remain in union together has caused greater mischief than might have been wrought had the South remained independent to wither on the vine. The time would have come when the South, having given up all pretense of the economic benefit and morality of slavery, would have sued for re-entry into the union.

    • venuspluto67 August 30, 2017 at 7:07 am #

      I’m guessing that like Ann Coulter, you don’t believe in climate change. Yes, what is going on is a cosmic re-balancing, but not of the type you seem to believe. You see, life on this plane of existence is supposed to be difficult. In ripping the fossil fuels out of the ground, we incarnate-sentients have been engaging in an ultimately futile attempt to make life in the realm of physicality easier than it was meant to be (for the lucky few who got to enjoy those benefits). But in so doing we have tampered with the balances that keep the natural world hospitable for human life and activity, including and especially the climate.

      And so we are “reaping the whirlwind” in ways both literal and figurative. I take no joy in the human suffering that will result from the natural balances reasserting themselves. It will all just continue making us crazier and crazier both individually and collectively until we understand how the universe really works. I’m not holding my breath about that just now.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

        Can you prove your thesis? No more than I can prove mine. But during these years of supposed terrible climate change, very few hurricanes have hit the mainland United States. That’s a fact, Jack.

        It was the Statues. And if Katrina had waited a few more days, it would have hit during a huge Gay and Lesbian convention. Nature gave you people one last chance to reform….

        • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

          “It was the statues, it was the statues, it was the statues!” No it wasn’t: It was Mother Nature saying if you don’t stop I’m going to rain on your parade. Hard.

      • malthuss August 31, 2017 at 10:09 am #

        climate change. –Like Ice Ages.

        • seawolf77 August 31, 2017 at 7:42 pm #

          Ice ages?

    • venuspluto67 August 30, 2017 at 7:17 am #

      Another thing: I wish the “statutory rape” crowd would realize that Lee detested slavery as much as any of the Northern abolitionists. He simply couldn’t bring himself to position himself on the side of the War Between the States (“Civil War” is such a misnomer) that was taking up arms against the state that was his lifelong home.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

        Yes, and he hated it first and foremost because it was so hard on the White working class. This is how a natural man functions: His own people first. And yes you are correct: Virginia was his homeland and he would not lead a force against his land and his people.

      • seawolf77 August 31, 2017 at 8:19 am #

        That is complete and utter rubbish and only a colossal hypocrite would try to push that line. Lee fought to the death to preserve slavery. End of story. End of your fairy tale. Finished. God you people insist on having your cake and eating it too. He was a creep. A creep! A CREEP!!!!!

    • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

      Leave it to the Rubicon Racist to slant Hurricane Harvey in his favor. Not surprisingly, he is repugnantly wrong. Hurricane Harvey skirted the major oil operations in the lower 48. Houston, Port Authur, Lake Charles. If it gets to Baton Rouge and New Orleans, it will have hit them all.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

        It’s going to be hard on you for a few days – not being able to hang around tourist bars in your Panama suit, straw hat, and sandals, fantasizing that the young White men are Nazis. Occasionally hitting on ones who are by themselves, introducing yourself as a writer of course and generally making a nuisance out of yourself. You desperately hope Richard Spencer will appear some day, but you don’t know if you will denounce him or try to seduce him.

        • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 12:48 pm #

          Only an idiot fights for a piece of rock shaped like a man and a horse.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

            You said the same thing about America, the “Union” (a forced union is not a marriage) you supposedly love so much.

            Note to all: Remember all Seawolf’s prescriptions for America are likely to be poison since he’s against Nations to be begin with, and America in particular.

          • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 1:49 pm #

            I’m not a prescription or a pack of cigarettes you imbecile.

    • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 1:52 pm #

      Yeah it caused a disturbance; like a turd dropping in a punch bowl.

  73. FincaInTheMountains August 30, 2017 at 5:31 am #

    If stars are lit
    It means there is someone who needs it,
    It means someone wants them to be,
    That someone deems those specks of spit

    Vladimir Mayakovsky, 1922

    In all this bacchanalia around the crypto-currencies and the digital economy there are three serious rational moments, although they are in the shadows:

    1. If the stars are lit, then there is someone who needs it. Any process always has a master who extracts profit from it at the expense of the believing flock.

    2. Mining crypto-currency is a huge computer network that can solve the problems of incredible complexity from modeling thermonuclear processes inside the stars to emulating the Big Bang.

    And with a probability close to one hundred percent the owner of the process is busy doing exactly this. He runs his task at the expense of millions of bit-coin miners, occasionally throwing them a bit of virtual money. That is for free, although the organization of such process should cost billions of real money.

    The only question is what exactly this Master is trying to solve?

    3. All virtual currencies in addition to diverting the dweebs from real life perform one important function. The issuance of the crypto currency creates a massive monetary demand for them, easing the monetary pressure on the real commodity stock in conditions of large-scale emission of fiat currencies, thereby weakening the rate of inflation.

    For how long? I doubt that for too long now.

    • messianicdruid August 30, 2017 at 10:34 am #

      Burning hundred dollar bills until inflation is controlled.

      • elysianfield August 30, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

        …And the beatings will continue until morale improves….

  74. FincaInTheMountains August 30, 2017 at 7:08 am #

    FBI officials are claiming a lack of public interest justifies their decision to keep Hillary Clinton’s very controversial archived records from being released to the public


    Lack of public interest? Yeah, right.

    This is going to be a long war…

    • Pucker August 30, 2017 at 7:50 am #

      “FBI officials are claiming a lack of public interest justifies their decision to keep Hillary Clinton’s very controversial archived records from being released to the public”

      “That dog don’t hunt!”

  75. Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 12:33 pm #


    Hail Sark. Hail Sargon. Hail Victory!

    • JimInFlorida August 30, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

      The Truth has always been out there. Kudos to State Senator Wagner for falling on the barbed wire. Thus enabling The Truth to advance on the battlefield.

      But, the REAL fight is to reawaken the hypnotized mass of Whites.
      The key is HOW to reawaken such knowledge in the White Mind.

      To carelessly, even haphazardly, “reawaken” a hypnotized White Mind will very likely trigger the Inner Demons, who were inserted to protect the Evil Knowledge embedded by their masters in the media and academia. It’s similar to the Wicked Witch of the West’s musings over how to get Dorothy’s ruby slippers but, with a bit of flip to the script…

      “These things must be done DELICATELY…. or you’ll trigger the demons planted to defend the LIES.”

      That’s what I try to do here on CFN. Always working on developing the message to help awaken the hypnotized White Goy. Every rebuke by beantownbill, Elrond, janet, and even our benevolent host, helps me to refine my thoughts and put a finer point on the threading needle. That finer needle helps me work with finer threads of subtlety, metaphor, and imagery.

      Of course, I rely on Janos and his peers to check my work. No work is complete without peer review. And even then, the work continues.

      • FincaInTheMountains August 30, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

        Just another brick in building the Image of Hell on Earth.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

        Quite right. There a huge debate in the Movement as to how to move forward. Ditch the Nazi stuff? Outwardly sure, but inwardly? Deny the Man and his Movement who stopped the Globalists for a time? That would be unwise, and in any case the Enemy will demonize whatever we love and hold up. How about the Confederate Flag? Ditch it and alienate millions of Southern Whites? But we do need unity at some point – but premature and false outer unity would spell defeat.

        The Nordic Front guys look great on parade in their suits with shield holders on the sides. Surely something like this at some point, but without denying the earlier influences and heroes.

        • JimInFlorida August 30, 2017 at 3:47 pm #

          I think my final day here is a done deal.

          Carry on brave Janos.

          • seawolf77 August 30, 2017 at 3:56 pm #

            You two sound like a couple of pimply faced kids taking oaths in a tree house, and planning your assault on the lemonade stand operating on the corner. Carry on brave soldiers. If you nick your knees, don’t come crying to me.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 8:30 pm #

            Remember Proteus, always changing name and form. A man must be flexible! The Gold remains Gold.

          • seawolf77 August 31, 2017 at 7:53 am #

            Wait a second, I thought you guys were about stick up your ass principles. Now you’re flexible. Which is it Janos? Either you got a spine or you’re limp dick.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

            Inflexible as to Principle. Flexible as to tactics. In between as to strategy.

            Btw, your vileness is evident here as always.

          • seawolf77 August 31, 2017 at 7:42 pm #

            I do believe you could parse spaghetti, with an extended pinky of course.

      • janet August 30, 2017 at 3:30 pm #

        “Always working on developing the message to help awaken the hypnotized White Goy.” –jim

        By making racist, misogynist, and anti-semitic comments … like your constant malicious and false references to “ZOG” … you are only alienating straight white cis-gendered men. You go your own way with other like males, and enjoy your gay life.

    • Elrond Hubbard August 31, 2017 at 11:41 am #

      Supposing I wanted to follow up the above link, I couldn’t. Why? Because the universal wave of revulsion at the Daily Stormer now stretches to Albania:


      Bye-bye, .al top-level domain, we hardly knew ye

      I gather from the rest of the URL that a state legislator somewhere or other said something anti-Semitic. What does that amount to? According to Wikipedia, there are 108 legislatures across the 50 U.S. states and assorted territories: seven thousand, five hundred and seventy-four seats in total.

      And the white supremacists in the room are over the moon because, out of seven thousand, five hundred and seventy-four legislators, they dug up one who is as shitty as they are.

      *slow clap*

      • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 6:15 pm #

        Elrond supports the suppression of free speech and is against net neutrality. Thus he is the Enemy of the American People – and of all free men where so ever they may be.

  76. Janos Skorenzy August 30, 2017 at 1:10 pm #


    The Texas Coast deserved Harvey because they voted Trump. Is this anymore ridiculous than my theory? No, and it far less poetic and profound. My theory is true even if it’s factually false.

  77. FincaInTheMountains August 30, 2017 at 2:09 pm #

    The Secretary of Defense, Mad Dog Mattis just warned those who needed warning, that in case the Army would step in on the Trump’s side, and Hillary in her usual style turned everything upside down to the contrary and announced these words as Mattis plan to overthrow Trump.


    • FincaInTheMountains August 30, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

      The fact is that the role of the individual in history is not absolute, but not zero, and even very large, if this person resonates with some or other objective trends in history.

      But who remembers the difference between objective and subjective idealism?

      Meanwhile, the most powerful of Hillary’s weapons are not the money and secret services, but the ability to manipulate meanings, or sophistry, as people who gave Socrates a bowl with Cicuta called this skill 3000 years ago.

    • janet August 30, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

      Just hang on until we can get this idiot out of the White Supremacy House. Mattis said something like that to his/our multicultural, multiracial troops.

  78. volodya August 30, 2017 at 2:30 pm #

    If the campus Left had any tactical brains. The campus Left has NO brains. They’re witless followers. It’s all “look at me, look at me”. The guys trying to get laid, the chicks looking up adoringly at their flexing knuckle-head class-mates. Pathetic. Pa-thet- ic.

    • janet August 30, 2017 at 2:53 pm #


  79. janet August 30, 2017 at 2:49 pm #

    It is heartening to see people like Christie, Cruz, and Trump all in agreement about the importance of big government and their determination to act together to send big federal government money to Texas.

    Cruz said there will be bipartisan support in Congress for a bill to provide federal aidto those affected in Texas. Trump also promised government help on Monday, “You’re going to see very rapid action from Congress — certainly from the President… We’re going to get your funding.”

    Reagan was wrong about these true words: I’m from the government and I’m here to help. Nice to have conservatives back on board.

  80. FincaInTheMountains August 30, 2017 at 7:14 pm #

    Rumors of evacuation of Russian population are slightly exaggerated

    The Russian Far-East authorities of Primorye have denied the reports that after the N. Korean missile test they allegedly received a Presidential order to evacuate the population from the Khasan region bordering on North Korea. According to the authorities, this is all speculation. These “news” appeared in one popular Telegram channel and were picked up by the media.


    Very brazen and cynical.

    The Japanese and the South Koreans are so openly being bent over on buying US Treasuries (and maybe even the Chinese), that there is hardly any doubt about the pro-American reorientation of the North Korea under Kim Jong-un.

    And the rocket engines they had acquired after the transfer of Yuzhmash (Former Soviet Missile plant, now in Ukraine) under the control of the US hawks, but not before.

  81. elysianfield August 30, 2017 at 7:32 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    The BBC site, this PM, reported that an honest-to-God cure for cancer has been developed and FDA approved. With an 85%+ success rate in trials, the treatment, called CAR-T genetically modifies a patients leucocytes (white blood cells) to seek out and destroy particular forms of cancer. The treatment, currently for a form of leukemia, can and will be modified to apply to other cancers. The price? A modest half a million dollars per patient.

    • elysianfield August 30, 2017 at 7:36 pm #

      And….the link;


    • elysianfield August 30, 2017 at 7:41 pm #

      A note to JIF,
      You understand, of course, that Billionaires can now live forever?

      • Elrond Hubbard August 31, 2017 at 1:53 pm #

        What about Ray Kurzweil? If he really does live forever, it’s going to give JHK fits.

  82. Q. Shtik August 30, 2017 at 8:15 pm #

    however only man conceptualizes death…and “being”…and religion. – elysian


    How do you account for the desperate attempt by every living thing to remain alive? It seems like they know something.

    • elysianfield August 31, 2017 at 11:40 am #

      It is what I believe, I cannot, of course prove that an insect or ptarmigan or dog does not conceptualize his, her, or his/her state of being, nor it’s lack of being.

      All things living are hardwired with a fear of their respective predators…part of the biological imperative….

      When you were very, very young, you feared the “boogieman”…you feared that he was going to “get you”…not kill you…knowledge of “death” and your part in the equation came later.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 8:09 pm #

        You were afraid because you knew you could get hurt or even die. Ditto for animals. As Buddha said, All creatures love life and fear death. The knowledge is subconscious and intrinsic.

        You need to get high. Get higher up and deeper in.

        • elysianfield September 1, 2017 at 11:17 am #

          I know enough not to argue the metaphysical with you…but….

          Babies understand and experience fear and pain…visceral and instinctive…death is a human construct to explain end of life…how does a baby understand the cycle of life? Think…back.

          Budda said all creatures love life and fear death? I would think that they experience life and fear pain.

          Cognito ergo sum isn’t well understood by the majority of humanity….

  83. Pucker August 30, 2017 at 9:57 pm #

    The Secret Societies are enamored with Astrology since Time relates to the material universe (space), which is the realm of Satan in a Gnostic dualistic conception of the universe. Plato: Time is Timelessness in motion. The solar eclipse appears to have literally spawned Hurricane Harvey, which will not be missed on the Secret Societies. Everyone is literally freaking out.

    • messianicdruid August 31, 2017 at 9:44 am #

      Not everyone. People of faith know that God uses evil to chastise His own and that all things work together for the good of those that are called to His purpose.

      Those who work in secret know their time is short, they are indeed “freaking out” so find a quite place and sit this one out.

  84. KesaAnna August 30, 2017 at 10:45 pm #

    ” The rest is the same hatred/envy due anyone more successful than ourselves. ”

    if I had to give a single reason why socialized education seems so often to fail so miserably , it would be this.

    Most people, most of the time , don’t really want you to succeed .

    Both the millionaire , and the ditch-digger , are in accord in wanting you to stay in your place , and preferably that place should be as low and as mean as possible.

    True enough, everyone sucks at the knee caps of the rich , but that is AFTER success is achieved .

    500 years ago peasants despised themselves, and sucked at the knee caps of 5 year olds because the 5 year olds happened to be born in a Dukes , Earls , or Barons cradle. All the propaganda to the contrary, I don’t think it is really any different.

    No amount of dollars and cents , organizational charts, theories or ideologies can overcome what people actually feel.

    Whereas education privately provided for , succeeds so often even when you think it would fail .

    Like the education provided by the half-literate waitress who borrows books from the library to teach her kid because she knows what others really will not do for that kid.

    Or the many , I have lost count , who write such fine criticisms and diatribes against the Catholic Church —- But guess who taught them to write so well ?

    It worked so well because one person did care, one person was concerned , even if the object of that affection and attention did not , and for no other reason.

  85. KesaAnna August 31, 2017 at 12:07 am #

    ” How do you account for the desperate attempt by every living thing to remain alive? It seems like they know something. ”

    What apparently the Atheist will go to Zambia and back to ignore ;

    that , ” Live for, and appreciate, the moment ” , is meaningless , is a lot of quibbling over dates.

    Take away permanence , and good and bad, right and wrong, love or hate , ” 2 + 2 = 4 ” is , in an instant, rendered into meaningless, incoherent, gibberish.

    My brother died last October. As far as the moment is concerned , I dare say he has already been forgotten by all but a handful of people.

    And when that handful of people are dead ? I dare say that, as far as the moment is concerned , it will not make one bit of difference whether he was a saint or a serial killer .

    The unavoidable and undeniable inference must be that if his hobby had been chopping up babies and eating them , it would have been just as well.

    But then Julius Caesar and Adolf Hitler are remembered ……..BUT ARE THEY ??

    What was Julius Caesars favorite color ? Is his biography as known to us , essentially accurate and objective, or is it 9-10ths self-serving Roman spin, not even recognized as spin because , since we are not denizens of first century Rome, , we wouldn’t know the motives and contexts that would make up that spin ?

    While I concede that Caligula was probably not a great ruler , I DO strongly suspect that 9 -10ths of his received biography is character assassination.

    As for Hitler , because of a very few things Hitler said about his youth , it is generally thought that Hitler’s father was a sadistic brute.

    I suspect ( though cannot prove ) that , on the contrary, both of Hitler’s parents doted on him and spoiled him.

    Likewise the commonly held belief that Hitler was some sort of sexual deviant ; based on the thinnest and most spotty of hearsay.
    Everything we are able to solidly substantiate on that score only points to a sexuality that was boringly common, conventional, conformist, normal.

    The moral of such stories seems to be that, in the moment , even , “2+2= 4 ” can be twisted into , ” 2+2 = 5 “.

    Social Darwinists , whatever they call themselves , are always invoking , ” Survival of the fittest” .

    Except, funny thing, that is not what evolutionary theory points to.
    What it points to is that no matter how refined, or crude , no matter how powerful, or weak, the creature, the fate of ALL is extinction , regardless.

    Yet, as you yourself seem to indicate, even cockroaches and clams, no less than humans , strive for permanence and perpetuity.
    Not for a moment, not for a few more moments , but for permanence and perpetuity. And not just permanence and perpetuity , but permanence and perpetuity with air conditioning and great sex.

    So, I suppose, all humans — and cockroaches and clams — and the sun in the sky too — are all either crazy or simply stupid.

    So much for , ” 2 + 2 = 4 “.

    Or the opposite claim is plain shit.

    • ozone August 31, 2017 at 10:04 am #

      “What [evolutionary theory] points to is that no matter how refined, or crude , no matter how powerful, or weak, the creature, the fate of ALL is extinction , regardless.”

      All must expire to provide elements for the next “forms”… and not necessarily what we might consider “life-forms”. Celestial bodies included. As far as the Roamin’ Empire and One-ball Schiklgruber, give ’em TIME (the great eraser); as you indicate, all will be forgotten.

      The afterlife was invented to prevent being forgotten “forever”. Note that “eternity” is a big factor in all the dogma. All your loved ones will be there to welcome you to an “eternal” party where ones twisted consciousness will be there to pester ones neighbor “forever”!

      A brief study of soil microbiology tells us all we should be wanting to know about “The Circle of Life” (and that Death thing that Disney either misinterpreted or left out of the mix completely).

      Is the yearning for an afterlife crazy or stupid? All religious constructs were built by Man; a species well aware of their mortality. The Omnipotent One will save them from this fate if the proper rituals are observed… say those whose livings are provided for by “believers”.

      So, is it crazy or stupid to quite consciously foul ones nest (refineries built, swamplands drained, wetlands destroyed — all on constantly threatened coastlines — in the unshakable belief that one will be taking the great elevator ride to “eternal” pleasures, regardless of these atrocities committed against ones fellow beings?

      • beantownbill. August 31, 2017 at 11:18 am #

        O3, I agree with you. But I’d add one comment – that we don’t really understand how the universe works. For now. Arthur C. Clark said not only is the universe stranger than we know, it’s stranger than we can know. I’m not sure I believe that statement, but I do think we will have many surprises along the way, if we last that long.

  86. KesaAnna August 31, 2017 at 1:37 am #

    ” It is heartening to see people like Christie, Cruz, and Trump all in agreement about the importance of big government and their determination to act together to send big federal government money to Texas.

    Cruz said there will be bipartisan support in Congress for a bill to provide federal aidto those affected in Texas. Trump also promised government help on Monday, “You’re going to see very rapid action from Congress — certainly from the President… We’re going to get your funding.”

    Reagan was wrong about these true words: I’m from the government and I’m here to help. Nice to have conservatives back on board. ”

    What passes for “conservative ” in your curious cosmology is anything but conservative . The only thing conservative about it are the decorations and sometimes the costumes.
    Though, these days , EXCEPT for the politicians, the lawyers, and the used car salesmen, the costuming consists of 40 year olds dressed like 12 year olds headed off to gym class.
    So not even the costumes.

    Likewise, “liberal ” is anything but liberal.

    — But I’m not going to bother to go into that.

    Once again, as usually so, you “criticize ” your “opponents” for doing what you would have them do.

  87. KesaAnna August 31, 2017 at 2:12 am #

    “As ever, Janos can be counted on to put words in my mouth.
    And as ever, anyone who buys what he says deserves the resulting ignominy. ”

    I don’t buy anything he says.

    I remember too many old Nazis who were taken out and shot when Hitler got into power and didn’t need them any more.
    I remember too many Hitler youth who were shot for desertion , not because they ran away from the enemy, but because while fighting Russian tanks with hand grenades and glorified bottle rockets , they forgot to keep track of their identity cards.

    And, Janos or no Janos, I’m pretty sure that, never mind that you don’t give a fuck about those people, but that you don’t even respect them.

    And so I have little doubt your seemingly fine, seemingly fair, seemingly balanced , words are not worth crediting , and almost certainly are a pose.

    ” As a joke, I once gifted my girlfriend a T-shirt bearing his famous photo. The joke fell flat because she had no idea who he was. Later, we broke up. ”

    I had a friend who was on three different drugs proscribed for her by shrinks, and this girl was wound so tight I think she really did need them.
    Her most consuming obsession was having sex with as many people as possible at one time. Indeed, that was why, even though I absolutely adored her , she was the second best friend I have ever had , I cut her loose , because I simply couldn’t handle hanging out with a girl while she screws 6 different guys at one time.
    It’s kinda hard to pretend to watch Wheel of Fortune while that is going on right in front of you.

    Anyway, she had this T-shirt —which she actually wore — with a picture of Hitler on it , and the legend , ” My Che Guevara T-shirt is in the laundry , so I had to wear this. ”

    That was incredibly funny, and I still laugh now ten years later . She was sincere.

    You are not funny, and I doubt you are sincere.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

      Sentimentality never created a nation – or saved one. Hitler, a lover of animals and children, was the most ruthless of men on behalf of the German nation and people. Traitors were in deadly danger, no doubt. Nothing else will do the job. Women (of both physical genders) don’t get this – which is why they shouldn’t be voting.

      Good points about memory and human knowledge of others. Now apply it to yourself. Do you know yourself fully? Isn’t keeping track of yourself over time almost like creating a character in a novel? Yes, you know more than you do about others (hopefully!), but still much is forgotten or left out in order to create a coherent character, to portray yourself to yourself and then to others. Some skip the first stage and change the story to suit the audience or need.

      The Vedanta would say its all confabulation, that we are none of this. Christianity would agree to some extent, saying that we are not immortal as we are or conceive ourselves to be. We are known to God and God alone. If we overcome, he will give us a stone with our real name on it, known to none but Him. But I assume we can share it in Heaven, where we will be known even as we are known.

      I’ve been reading August Kubizek’s “The Young Hitler I Knew”. All agree this is genuine and the best source about the early Hitler. His father was a strong man who wanted him to follow in his footsteps into civil service. Hitler refused and the war was on. No hatred though. He respected his dad, but loved his mom.

      • malthuss September 1, 2017 at 12:59 am #

        Hitler killed off retarded, handicapped and jewish children.

    • Elrond Hubbard August 31, 2017 at 1:40 pm #

      *shrug* What do you want from me, KesaAnna? Got a machine-gun nest I can charge? A baby to save from drowning? How many strokes of self-flagellation to earn your sterling approval?

      I’m some rando on the Internet with an opinion. So are you, and everyone else around here. JHK himself is no different, except that enough people are interested in his opinions to make him a living. For as long as I still feel like showing up here, I know which side of the fight I’m on. Whether that’s good enough for you or not is beside the point.

  88. FincaInTheMountains August 31, 2017 at 5:33 am #

    Advance of the Black Project in Russia

    The whole Hegelian philosophy and society of the Illuminati, whose main ideologue was Braginsky, arose out of a desire to hide the true history of Jomsborg – a semi-legendary Viking stronghold – and this desire makes the “democrats” related not only with the “liberals”, but also to the Nazis – it is enough to look at the numbers of losses in Norway in the Second World War and what was done to Norway now.

    And Russia will never have a National Idea until she understands the connection between Jomsborg and the Vikings and Hamlet, the Prince of Denmark.

    In the meantime, Russia will not have its own National Idea and will have to join one of the Western Colored Projects, with all that follows.

    And a hundred years ago, Russia joined the Western Red Project and we all know what came of it, and now it seems it’s going to join the Black, because what is happening now in Russia is the February 1917 Revolution 2.0 – blacker than black.

    That is, Putin is trying to join the White Project, but everything can not hang on one person.

    As far as I understand, the dismissal of Rector of the RSUH Evgeny Ivakhnenko and howl about Serebrennikov is the fourth stage of the “February Revolution 2.0”, which should overthrow Putin, and soon we will recognize that Orthodoxy within the framework of the Red Project differs from Orthodoxy in the framework of the Black.

    As they say, do not be afraid of those who destroy the body, but can not do anything with the soul, but be afraid of those who destroy both the soul and the body.

  89. FincaInTheMountains August 31, 2017 at 6:02 am #

    I am afraid that the History is about to repeat itself: when General Omar Bradley and the US Army stopped the spreading of Black Project in the USA:


    White President Eisenhower, who replaced the Black Truman, found that he has nobody in Russia to negotiate with, since the Black Khrushchev in November 1952 overthrew Stalin, who died in 1953 due to lack of qualified medical help – the famous Doctor’s Plot in Russia.


    The unexpected rise of American National consciousness in 2016 Election campaign has already dealt a mortal blow to Black Project in US, now they’re planning to jump onto the Russian soil.

  90. messianicdruid August 31, 2017 at 9:33 am #

    venuspluto67 guessed, “I’m guessing that like Ann Coulter, you don’t believe in climate change. Yes, what is going on is a cosmic re-balancing…”

    But the tools being weilded are unaware that they will be held accountable for taking the weather of our fine planet into their hands as a weapon.

    I used radar for three decades and can assure you that temerature inversions show up “on screen” and when you see returns that dont fit into normal patterns they stand out like a sore thumb. The wind farm near DDC [ Dodge City Kansas ] casts a permenant echo.


  91. messianicdruid August 31, 2017 at 10:23 am #

    “Of course, I rely on Janos and his peers to check my work. No work is complete without peer review. And even then, the work continues.”

    I was at work in the break room, by myself, and one of the senior men came in joking that I was there “with all my friends”. I looked up at him and said, “No, these are my peers”., and got up and walked out.

    My contention has been that we must not embrace the same tactics that our opponents use. To demean others, on the basis of any supposed deficiency of the flesh, putting them in a lower class reserved for oppression by any other class is hypocritical and unworthy of our King.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 1:24 pm #

      In the Mahabharata War, the good guys were reduced to using trickery, a violation of the code of chivalry. Krishna explained, that the Demons were too strong to be defeated without it. This is a world of compromise, but sometimes victory is absolutely required and other considerations have to be put aside. After all, moral problems are for the living – a luxury in other words, to be indulged in only after survival (the first morality as Jefferson said) is secured.

      Considering how the South was treated towards the end of the War and after, maybe Lee should have sent guerillas into the North to cause terror behind the Northern lines. You disagree. Ok, then you must accept that the terror they used to secure their existence after the War was morally justified. Still disagree? Then you aren’t a serious person and not a friend of the South or any people.

      • malthuss September 1, 2017 at 1:00 am #

        Krishna is in Mahabarata?

    • thwack August 31, 2017 at 1:32 pm #

      “I looked up at him and said, “No, these are my peers”., and got up and walked out.”



      • elysianfield August 31, 2017 at 6:51 pm #


        You are in no position to deny praise…however faint….

  92. elysianfield August 31, 2017 at 11:54 am #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    The BBC site, this AM, reports that the Mexican Government has offered the use of the Mexican Army and food relief to the unfortunates of Houston, Texas. The Governor of Texas has…graciously accepted. Rex Tillerson, our Secretary of State has thanked the Government of Mexico for it’s generous offer.

    • elysianfield August 31, 2017 at 11:58 am #

      And…the link;


    • thwack August 31, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

      Manuel Labor to the rescue!

      BTW — did y’all see how fat people are in Houston?

      Canibal porn I tell ya

  93. Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

    Rush: Some of the more canny Democrats are worried about Antifa – like Pelosi who has repudiated them. The kids have believed their bought and paid for professors 100%. So naturally revolution and mass murder are the only answers. In other words, they took Zinn’s lies too literally.

  94. Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 2:20 pm #


    “To him that overcometh will I give…a white stone, and
    in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth
    save he that receiveth it.”–Rev. 2:17.

    IN ANCIENT TIMES the Greeks and the Romans had a custom of noting and perpetuating friendship by means of a white stone. This stone was divided into halves, and each person inscribed his name on the flat surface, after which the parts of the stone were exchanged. The production of either half was sufficient to insure friendly aid, even from the descendants of those who first divided the stone. A similar custom was sometimes observed by a king, who would break a white stone into two parts, one of which he would retain and the other part give to a special ambassador. That part could be sent to the king at any time and would insure aid. Thus the divided stone became a mark of identification.

    Rev. 2:17seems to refer to this ancient custom. The white stone signifies a precious token of the Lord’s love, and the new name written in the stone suggests the Bridegroom’s name. The statement indicates a special acquaintance with the great King of kings, secret between Himself and the individual. The overcomers are not to be recognized merely as a class–the Bride class–but each will have the personal favor of the Lord. Of this no one will know save himself and the King. There is an individual and personal relationship between the Lord and the overcomers, who may be said to receive the mark of identification–the antitypical white stone–now, in this life.

    This mark is the sealing of the Holy Spirit by which the Lord identifies the overcomers. While this is said to be a part of the final reward of the Church, yet from the very beginning of our experience we have this personal acquaintance with the Lord. The full seal of the Holy Spirit will be given in the Resurrection, when we receive the new body. Then we shall have the complete knowledge of the name by which we shall be known to the Lord and He to us forever.

    • capt spaulding August 31, 2017 at 3:31 pm #

      When an ass peers into the bible, do not expect a wise man to look back out.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

        “The lukewarm (moderates and conservatives and buriers of talents of all kinds) I shall spew out.”

        As Warren Buffet said in regards to stocks, people who buy a little bit of this and a little bit of that just show they don’t know what they’re doing.

    • Q. Shtik August 31, 2017 at 5:51 pm #

      the name by which we shall be known to the Lord – Janos


      I want to be known as Willie, as in Mosconi.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 6:39 pm #

        Why not Drofus? Then people can say, FO Drofo.

      • elysianfield August 31, 2017 at 6:59 pm #

        “I want to be known as Willie, as in Mosconi.”

        As I recall, Willie Mosconi did the trick shooting in the movie “The Hustler”.

    • DA August 31, 2017 at 10:59 pm #

      Never understood why such a highly politicized and internally inconsistent document allegedly written by a handful of primitive desert nomads two thousand years ago, based on an even more primitive desert religion, which MAY or may not form the basis for the most virulent psychosis (Zionism) unleashed on the world today, could IN ANY WAY be considered “the word of God.” When I hear the words “Lord, God, and/or Jesus,” I know one thing, and one thing only. It’s time to get up and leave, because the BULLSHIT is about to flow freely.

  95. FincaInTheMountains August 31, 2017 at 4:51 pm #

    Sevastopol – Pyongyang bhai-bhai!

    North Korea shed light on the causes of Russia’s survival.

    I will not go into details now, but on the basis of indirect evidence, I came to the conclusion that the US specialists reported to Trump that North Korea is already capable of inflicting unacceptable damage on the United States. A couple of days ago on NPR, an expert said that North Korea tested the warhead while having a sufficiently large number of such warheads – about 60. And this test looked so blurry because it was a very advanced warhead, that is very small, like the one that a few days ago was tested by the US, provoking a sincere, not ostentatious concern from Russia.


    It came to the point that Kim Jong-un, who had graduated from the Swedish University, holding the newly born son in his arms, allows himself to troll the USA in the best traditions of English humor.

    He threatens to “strike Guam” while the mental continuation of the trajectory over which the North-Korean missile flew over Japan rests in the city of Seattle and the Boeing factories. And the height at which it rose makes us realize that Seattle is no longer the ultimate range for North Korean missiles. By the way about the madness of the dictator – he has the intelligence to understand that if he threatens Seattle and Boeing, it can provoke undesirable consequences, and negotiations with Trump never stopped and there they cut the truth as it is.

    It is from this point of view that one should evaluate the statement of another expert who stated that the North Korean problem does not have a military solution, sanctions do not work and one should think about normalizing relations in order to change the regime in conditions of peaceful coexistence.

    Obviously, this kind of considerations was involved in relation to the Russian Federation in 1991, when the eternally drunk Yeltsin finally convinced the Clintonoids that to finish off Russia does not make sense. Russia was even allowed to collect all its nuclear weapons, and the payment for this permission was the Crimea and Sevastopol.

  96. FincaInTheMountains August 31, 2017 at 6:39 pm #

    Hillary drove the entire American “elite” out of its friggin mind

    To begin with, the American court during the judicial investigation conceded that Hillary Clinton forged the results of the 2016 primaries, after which the court ruled that this is a private matter of the Democratic Party and if the party leadership wants to support the favorite candidate in the primaries by the method of falsifying the election results, then it certainly has all right to do that.


    But the law in the US has a precedent character!

    Supporters of Bernie Sanders are delighted and try to recall their congressmen for the organization of a new party in which they can forge the election results in their favor.

    And another court tries to cancel pardon by President Trump of Sheriff Arpaio, although the right of the US President to pardon is recorded in the second article of the US Constitution!


    Well, the investigation of Trump’s relations with Russia a circus with horses.

    You just imagine how the CIA representatives come to Trump (if they do) and start inform him about the Korean nuclear program, and he sits and listens to them, and thinks about how these same people are investigating him as a Russian spy and can very much manipulate him to provoke a nuclear war.

    And after the testimony under the oath of the former director of the FBI Comey about how he had leaked secret, but false data to initiate this investigation, it seemed to me that everything was over.

    But the witches do not just surrender so easily and this time after the State Department, the Democratic and Republican parties, 16 US intelligence services, the Presidency, the judiciary, she decided to end the Senate Investigation Institution as well.

  97. Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 6:40 pm #

    The good guys fight back against a hate group:


  98. tucsonspur August 31, 2017 at 7:13 pm #

    With the Chinese lying in wait, a military option opens the door to the vast destruction contemplated by the doomsdayers for some time. All we need is an unleashed, modern day MacArthur to cause it.

    We met the Chinese in 1950, and who can forget the Chosin retreat, Koto-ri to Hangaru-ri through “Hell Fire Valley”, “bloody George”, and the evacuation at Hungnam. The Chinese stopped us then, and they’re stopping us now.

    The shadow of the Russian Bear is also there, large and dark, looming over our shoulder.

    And as nuclear weapons become more precise and tactical, their use becomes dangerously more “ethical” to the war hawks.

    This is on US submarine nukes:


    Can the human intellect and spirit, with its limited capacity for negotiation and reason, contain all the world’s mighty, destructive, deadly power much longer?

    Or will we be like Dr. Morbius, who saw his evil self at the door, melting through Krell metal, unable to stop it?

  99. Pucker August 31, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

    What do you think about “Channelers”?

    Channelers are middle-aged white women who think that they communicate with spirits and Aliens from Outer Space?

  100. Pucker August 31, 2017 at 8:00 pm #

    I recall that Nancy Reagan consulted her own personal Channeler before telling Ronnie what to do.

    • San Jose August 31, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

      Florence Harding used psychics to assist her in planning President Harding’s administration.

      Jen in San Jose

    • DA August 31, 2017 at 10:06 pm #

      Jean Dixon was a favorite of both Nancy Reagan and Richard Nixon. Regardless of what their interpretation of their source is, if it yields accurate/valuable results more often than not, what’s the harm? Could be that they’re merely channeling an intuitive feel for human events that we ALL have to a greater or lesser degree, but who the hell really knows?

  101. Pucker August 31, 2017 at 8:01 pm #

    Are there Channelers who can beat the S&P?

    • FincaInTheMountains August 31, 2017 at 8:25 pm #

      No, S&P don’t give no shit about no frigging Channelers, and neither should you.

      • Pucker August 31, 2017 at 8:36 pm #

        Janet Yellen

    • DA August 31, 2017 at 10:29 pm #

      I think that greed either does not occur in channelers when they’re acting in that capacity, or if it does, it prevents them from “channeling” in the first place. Think about it, if “channeling” were a mere parlor trick to be mastered by the most opportunistic among us to take advantage of everyone else, wouldn’t a channeling “arms race” be quite likely to ensue? And further, wouldn’t someone(s), like say, oh, the fucking CIA among others, be tempted to try? Oh that’s right! THEY FUCKING DID!


      A famous alumnus:


  102. Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 8:29 pm #


    A Black found a banana peel in a tree or saw a White Greek throw it. This precipitated a crisis, with many students feeling unsafe or disrespected. There was weeping! The Frat Bro apologized obsequiously for his sin.

    I don’t get it, but let’s not over think it. Did the Blacks think that they were being made into monkeys by the White guy? Why? Or how? Or more importantly, do they feel like monkeys and the banana peel reminded them of it? And they just assumed the White was trying to make them feel this way?

    Puck, will you weigh in?

    • DA August 31, 2017 at 10:15 pm #

      I understand your racism as a STRONG personal preference Janos, but really now, where does all the hate and vitriol come from? Have you ever shared that before? I think that’s a fair question to ask.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 11:02 pm #

        Ok, what’s your interpretation of banana gate then?

  103. Pucker August 31, 2017 at 8:50 pm #

    Satisfying Power Needs: Sadism or Masochism?

    People actually think that debating whether to desecrate and deface historic monuments, statues, and graves is a reasonable, rational topic of discussion rather than something that should be relegated to the mental hospital.

    • DA August 31, 2017 at 10:11 pm #

      Focusing on alleged past “crimes” keeps the focus firmly off all the crimes that are occurring right now. All the current identical politics bullshit is little more than neo-lib string pulling, and all the miscreants in the streets reacting it to it are but puppets. Same as it ever was.

  104. Pucker August 31, 2017 at 9:04 pm #

    “I feel so guilty for my White Privilege. Spank Me! Give it to me! Call me a whore!”

    • DA August 31, 2017 at 10:12 pm #

      OK, you’re a whore! Feel better now?

  105. KesaAnna August 31, 2017 at 10:24 pm #

    ” Sentimentality never created a nation – or saved one ”

    I approach, or try to approach , any practical political question , the same way I approach religious questions .

    To put not too fine a point on it ;

    What is in it FOR ME ?

    If my fate is to become manure ……well, what will be my relation to the state, or to God, when I am manure ?

    I think that question IS very much relevant TO THE PRESENT , and to defer it or not consider it is to DODGE it.

    Sentimentality ? No, I think you will find that in , for example, this , “circle of life ” clap trap . A lot of Ivory Tower dwellers pretending that the prospect of becoming manure sits fine with them , when they prove by their every action that it does not sit fine with them at all .

    ( And I would assert ; FOR GOOD REASON. Because it is bullshit. )

    ” *shrug* What do you want from me, KesaAnna? Got a machine-gun nest I can charge? A baby to save from drowning? How many strokes of self-flagellation to earn your sterling approval? ”

    uh huh.

    i like to personalize things .Because, as Stalin supposedly once said , ” If three people die it is a tragedy. If three million die it is a statistic. ”

    That is, sophistries tend to begin with abstractions.

    So , no, fuck all your talk about “people” .

    Who the fuck is this People fellow?

    Noooo , lets talk about YOU and ME .

    Or, for example, lets talk about the 18 year old Southerner who didn’t own any shoes, much less any slaves , who went off and got his head blown off to defend his home, or simply because it was what his peers expected of him .
    ( ” What his peers expected of him ” — You are into all that ” general welfare” stuff right ? )

    Whose memory you want to piss on, never mind Robert E. Fucking Lee , for , ” a good cause ” .

    And fuck your slavery crap.

    ” Whether that’s good enough for you or not is beside the point. ”

    Nooo, that is entirely the point.

    And if you don’t like it ; Tough titty said the kitty.

    Elementary school is over, and you aren’t the teacher anymore.

    We are equals , whether you like it or not.

    ( It always makes me laugh ; I’m the Monarchist, and take equality to heart. Certainly not your kind. Your kind are all about status, and nothing but status . )

    ” I know which side of the fight I’m on. ”

    The same side as Janos , with a different flag .

    Well……..Janos is all blood and guts , and that’s pretty obvious , I suppose, even to the kiddies.

    You’re like those sniveling two-faced , back-stabbing school teachers with their line of shit about what they are going to do for you.

    The truth, of course, is that YOU are NOT THEIR KID , and if , 20 years hence , you wind up face down in a ditch, it is no skin off their nose.
    And what they do is no noble cause . They do it because it beats digging ditches and no pension.

    Hey, nothing wrong with filling you own rice bowl. We all gotta eat whether we like it or not.

    But ;

    I’m not asking you to charge machine gun nests or save drowning babies. The pathetic little I do ask of you is too much for you !

    • DA August 31, 2017 at 10:44 pm #

      Just ridiculously hard to keep track of where the head of a thread is on this blog, but I think I’m up to speed now. Janos will just flat out wear you out with sophistry there KesaAnna, although I still think he’s sincere. I guess that would make him, what? Deluded in some respects, dare I say it?

    • ozone September 1, 2017 at 9:27 am #

      As a lifelong, low-caste ditch-digger with the benefit of a fine grammar-school education, I find your “stances” (for the most part) unconvincing and unnecessarily provocative. …And as a person who values experience over belief, we shall never agree. (Not that you would/should care.)

      ***This is not an invitation to conversation/engagement, so please, go on ahead with the boring (and usually vituperative) last-wordism and get it over with…

  106. KesaAnna August 31, 2017 at 10:41 pm #

    ” ( Women ) shouldn’t be voting. ”

    You wishy -washy panty – waist. 😛

    In my world, the only voting going on would be in the College of Cardinals ( 60 year old celibates basically )

    And among the Electors of the Holy Roman Empire . ( Not because they deserve it, or are entitled to it. But because God put them in that particular cradle. Or, if you prefer, because fucking put them in that particular cradle. Would -be pagans like yourself, Sophia , or ozone , should like that last idea. )

    • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 11:11 pm #

      It comes down to swords or guns. As Charles Fort said, “It’s steam engines when it’s steam engine time.” Why? Because this is the Devil’s Kingdom. Everything you have, had, or will have is a direct result of the Conquest of the Continent by Godly and God like White Men. If you aren’t performing ancestor type worship or praying for their souls, then you are out of balance. If you don’t feel a shred of gratitude at least, then you yourself are a sinner thereby.

      Women just don’t get these things. Thus I call them Male Mysteries. We’ve listened to women (even ones stuck in male bodies) so long that we’ve almost lost our nation. Enough. We need a return to sanity and the male only franchise.

      Even the New Guinea savages who wanted more cargo where better. At least they Acknowledged their benefactors. Women and African American Blacks? Never. I’ve met a few African Blacks who did though.

      • KesaAnna September 1, 2017 at 12:26 am #

        ” We’ve listened to women (even ones stuck in male bodies) so long that we’ve almost lost our nation. ”

        I agree.

        ” We need a return to sanity and the male only franchise. ”

        We need a return to Christianity, and not the kind that gets on its knees and sucks the secular states , with its secular humanist pagans , cock.

        The kind that recognizes God as first authority , parents as second, and the state in distant third . ( The State ; all those greedy strangers who don’t even know the kid. )

        No ?

        then I reckon you will get Islam , or some other, inferior product.

  107. KesaAnna August 31, 2017 at 11:05 pm #

    ” I understand your racism as a STRONG personal preference Janos, but really now, where does all the hate and vitriol come from? Have you ever shared that before? I think that’s a fair question to ask. ”

    And the unsatisfying answer may be ;

    WHAT hate and vitriol ?

    To reference Stalin again, if , ” 3 million is a statistic ” ?

    Notice that Janos routinely criticizes me for excessive FEELING .

    And his Doppelganger Elrond condescends to me on account of excessive FEELING.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 11:12 pm #

      You’re high on Outrage porn and have the Rage virus. Women are great at demonstrations because they have more emotion and THEY HAVE NO DOUBTS.

      • KesaAnna September 1, 2017 at 12:44 am #

        Outrage ?

        I thought I was saying that, very like Hitler, you don’t have an illness .

        So there is nothing to cure.

        You are not pissed off . So there is nothing to placate.

        You are not just another object in this material world , like a dog or a car, to be tinkered with , or fixed.

  108. Pucker August 31, 2017 at 11:10 pm #

    Do you remember when the teacher gave you a cold stare when you were getting out of line in school? I spent a lot of time getting berated in the school Principal’s office. Of course, they all want you to fuck ’em.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 31, 2017 at 11:16 pm #

      Yes, high school teacher women seducing male students is now an epidemic. They don’t want men their own age – they want to be “better” than their partner or in control.

      • KesaAnna September 1, 2017 at 12:53 am #

        Hence home schooling.

        The actual proper authorities will take back their authority one way or another , sooner or later. The hard way or the easy way , under good terms, or under bad terms.

        By the way, believe it or not , I told a feminist friend of mine 12 years ago over lunch one day that women seducing little boys would eventually be a commonplace.

        She looked at me like i was crazy of course.

        I suppose she had to chalk it up to insanity because she couldn’t reckon which side I was on, as if my tastes in football teams has anything to do with it.


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