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Are You Going To Entropy Faire?

Things are breaking loose. Holes have appeared in the fabric of fraud and lies that passes for the world money system. They are black holes, gravitationally sucking in the things breaking loose, and as these things cross their event horizons, they will never be seen again. These things I speak of are the collateral for vast nebulae of falsely generated debts and obligations that were never intended to be honored (i.e. regarded as real). As they vanish down the wormholes of time, they take with them their pretenses of money value, meaning they leave reverberations of impoverishment in the shadowy place that the real world has become.
     The process described above – an alchemy of physics – will begin to shed light where the shadows have been, revealing a much harsher world in sharp contours and shocking color, for instance: red, the color of ink representing losses on real balance sheets of every household, every enterprise, and every government the whole world round. A scramble for safety now ensues, not just to lay hold of anything with remaining real “moneyness,” but for the resources that drive the kind of economies we have. In other words, for gold and silver, and for oil and gas.
     Of course, great geopolitical forces spin in the background. Only idiots subscribe to the paranoid fantasies of “one world government” and “global currencies.” In the scramble underway, the things falling apart include units of governance, breaking into smaller pieces: empires, nation states. These will include the unraveling European Union but also the matrix of agreements and protocols that binds together the West – everything from the IMF to the G-7 to the World Bank – into an entropy express.  One rather extreme scenario I do subscribe to was laid out by blogger Jim Willie recently: the effort by Russia, China, and others to isolate and neutralize the US dollar as the world’s so-called reserve currency by systematically converting holdings of US Treasury bills into gold wherever possible, and to thereby diminish the baleful influence of the Imperial US behemoth. They are assisted in this endeavor by the US itself in its bungling efforts to manipulate and suppress gold prices, as well as our prevarications as to exactly how much gold remains in the various places it is supposed to be stashed – Fort Knox, West Point, and the sub-basement labyrinth of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York – generating ever-greater uncertainty about the extant world gold supply, and hence its value relative to things like currencies. Nobody here can even ask the right questions.
     While The New York Times focuses on the momentous issue of real estate sales in the Hamptons, Russia and China will build gold-backed currencies aimed at monopolizing the trade in mineral and energy resources, leaving America and much of Europe to freeze in the dark and sit on gasoline lines at the empty filling stations. For a while that will work to the East’s advantage – until it becomes clear that the entropic contraction of industrial economies is for everyone as we veer into a literal world made by hand. That’s right, sooner or later Russia and China will get theirs, too. But in the meantime they have the ability to make the story a lot more interesting.
     There’s plenty of suspense this Easter weekend as observers nervously await the breaking action, to find out how much the oft-cited fear of confiscation has penetrated the regional money centers around Europe. Slovenia, a fairy-tale republic somewhere between Austria and the Duchy of Grand Fenwick, has been nominated by observers as the place most likely to be whacked by EU treasure confiscators. It owes about 10 billion Euros to the EU entropy cloud, with exactly zero chances of meeting its obligations. But then, it’s in the nature of such non-linear event sequences that the shadows of the black swan’s wings will pass over Slovenia and alight on a chimney-top in some utterly surprising place, say, Latvia or perhaps even Italy. In any case, European money will be on fire and a lot of that smokin’ moolah surely will wend its way into the US equity markets under the illusion of safety. It’s all just an accident waiting to happen. Money is not what it used to be and not what it seems.
     There must be an inverse relationship between the juiced S & P index and the IQs of the public figures in America who pretend to be able to think, so that there are now just six remaining people in the political arena who can articulate the various parts of the mega-swindle that besets us: Bill Black, Jim Rickards, Bill Moyers, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and David Stockman. Stockman is out with a new book, The Great Deformation, that manages to concentrate all the requisite outrage in one gale of rectified objurgation. It is a pleasure to read Stockman – former budget director under Reagan and Michigan congressman – call out the villains from Reagan to Bernanke to Paulson to Rubin and scores of others in the most opprobrious terms. Stockman characterizes the financial action of recent decades a “leveraged buyout of the USA” and it sure looks that way. If you travel around the towns of the upper Hudson Valley – once an industrial corridor full of Jimmy Stewart type burgs – it’s beginning to look like the country Borat grew up in. Everything of value that wasn’t nailed down was taken, and everything that remains is broken, including the ragged population.
     On Sunday night, wire stories had Cyprus close to “going Icelandic,” that is, hoisting the middle finger to Brussels and repudiating the money owed. That option may end up seeming more attractive to virtually everybody in the broke world, including even the young college loan debt donkeys of the USA, groaning under their loads as they stand idle in the barren fields of unemployment. Imagine, all those people thinking that nirvana is a place of cold and darkness… with the vague odor of rotting fish hanging in the still air.
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566 Responses to “Are You Going To Entropy Faire?”

  1. Hammering Truth April 1, 2013 at 9:06 am #

    Who says our money is safe in U.S. banks? http://youtu.be/H8k10giwAoA

  2. RyeBeachBum April 1, 2013 at 9:07 am #

    The fed has used the same gold over and over as collateral, which is why the Germans can not get their gold all back for years, it is gone, look into rehypothecation

  3. FriendlyAquaponics April 1, 2013 at 9:09 am #

    Aloha James,
    You’ve been saying for years that the center will not hold, and that the future of a world made by hand is inevitable. You’ve said the the future of agriculture will involve almost everyone, once again. We’ve looked into that future, and began almost six years ago to grow our own food using aquaponics, a wonderful marriage of hydroponics and aquaculture. It’s low tech, and sustainable, and a lot of fun. And we teach others as well – from 2-32 sq ft systems for indoors, to 64-4096 sq ft systems for outdoors. Please check out http://www.friendlyaqaponics.com, and send an email asking for our Tabletop Systems Manual – I’ll give it to your readers free ($50 value)! Take care,
    Friendly Aquaponics

  4. orbit7er April 1, 2013 at 9:10 am #

    The reality was on the front page of my New York Times yesterday:


    Short of Money, Egypt Sees Crisis on Fuel and Food
    QALYUBEYA, Egypt — A fuel shortage has helped send food prices soaring. Electricity is blacking out even before the summer. And gas-line gunfights have killed at least five people and wounded dozens over the past two weeks.
    Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times
    A farmer in his field outside Cairo. Farmers already lack fuel for the pumps that irrigate their fields, and they say they fear they will not have enough for the tractors.
    Tara Todras-Whitehill for The New York Times
    On the outskirts of Cairo, men worked to make fixes to an irrigation pump on a farm.
    The root of the crisis, economists say, is that Egypt is running out of the hard currency it needs for fuel imports. The shortage is raising questions about Egypt’s ability to keep importing wheat that is essential to subsidized bread supplies, stirring fears of an economic catastrophe at a time when the government is already struggling to quell violent protests by its political rivals.
    Farmers already lack fuel for the pumps that irrigate their fields, and they say they fear they will not have enough for the tractors to reap their wheat next month before it rots in the fields.

    Is this not EXACTLY what we have been warning about for years?
    That increasing oil prices would make current industrial agricultural methods reliant on diesel powered tractors, irrigation pumps etc would then threaten food production?

    It is happening NOW in a country which used to be an oil exporter!

    The root of the problem is that a former oil and gas exporter has turned importer and did nothing to invest their previous resources to tap the power of the sun in the desert. But of course the myopic Corporate Media cannot point this out!
    (The United States of Amnesia Gore Vidal called the USA lol)

    Perhaps an expert here should write a letter to the NY Times pointing this out.

    Link to TOD on Egypt:


    Of course the reporter takes no notice of the role of Peak Egyptian oil in their necessity to IMPORT fuel!

    I tried to send mail via the New York Times contact form but it has repeatedly failed…
    So much for our vaunted magic solutions!

  5. swmnguy April 1, 2013 at 9:15 am #

    Good column. You must have been reading the same stuff I’ve been seeing over the past week, including Jim Willie’s piece. I like his stuff and seek him out when he hasn’t posted anything in a while, but I do have to wonder what his native language is.
    There are more people who see what’s going on than the 6 you mention, but clearly you’re making a rhetorical point, and I can’t argue with it. I’d add Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, among others, to your list. And there are plenty of others who are right for the wrong reasons, or who see the current state of affairs quite clearly but propose solutions I find ridiculous. Still, I can’t argue with your basic point. Those too invested in our current system can’t perceive our true predicament. That might be due to being a product of the very system itself; I’ve heard it speculated that fish probably can’t perceive water. Or it might be, as Upton Sinclair observed, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”
    Additionally, I would suggest that what is going on in Europe is not “an accident waiting to happen.” I believe it is the logical outcome of a Financialized system that is based on infinite growth of resources, energy, markets and money. That is, when the finite nature of all of these things is revealed, the one thing that can be made infinite (money) will be made infinite, and then everything else will be manipulated and distorted in predictable ways. From a sufficiently distant perspective, one can watch the system devour itself, as we are seeing.
    It’s been a clear progression from the repeal of Glass-Steagall and the adoption of the Commodities Modernization Act of 2000, the Bankruptcy bill of 2005; the serial and metastasizing bubbles; the collapse of Lehman and Bear Stearns; Iceland and Greece; the collapse of MF Global and the fact that Jon Corzine isn’t in jail (talk about a dog that didn’t bark in the night!); now Cyprus and potentially Slovenia. What do we suppose might be the ultimate prize as the abstract financial system eats itself? And once the prize is won, why would the losers continue to participate in the system, submitting meekly to abstract shackles?
    We’re doomed to live in interesting times, Jim. I look forward to your missives ever Monday morning.

  6. Neon Vincent April 1, 2013 at 9:21 am #

    I’m enjoying the cosmological metaphors. They remind me of how I teach the laws of thermodynamics. The first law, that all the energy in the system is already there and can’t be created, is “you can’t get ahead.” The second, that energy always converts from a more useful form to a less useful one, causing the entropy which you used as your theme, is “you can’t break even, either.” Looks like those are appropriate messages for our time.
    I haven’t waxed that philosophical over at Crazy Eddie’s Motie News, although I have have been blogging about both finance and energy. Last Thursday, the S&P 500 hit a new nominal closing high to go along with the multiple record new Dow closings. I know one stock expert who pegged that as a signal to get out of the market three years ago. Let’s see if he follows through.
    In the category of topics that are more obviously about contraction, I’ve discussed the effect of sequestration on science funding, the BBC seeing of people will eat insects (yes, really; they think bugs are the food of the future once meat from mammals and birds becomes too scarce and expensive), the latest news about climate change, and Jared Diamond on what modern societies can lean from the people of New Guinea. In particular, Diamond thinks that Americans are too macho and take too many risks–caution in a world made by hand.
    I also celebrated the second anniversary of the blog by indulging in a retrospective of the most popular entry, a commentary on “My Tea Party” from July 4th, 2010. After such seriousness, I had to clear my palate with the science in science fiction and some April Foolishness.
    As for the energy entries I promised, they’ve already slipped to page 2.
    Happy Motoring–for now–from Detroit!

  7. Drew Keeling April 1, 2013 at 9:28 am #

    Civilization has survived many past banking and money crises. “Surviving,” however, is not the same thing as resuming prosperous long term economic growth.

  8. Poet April 1, 2013 at 9:36 am #

    Okay, all well and good, but where is the architectural eyesore for this month?!!

  9. ccm989 April 1, 2013 at 9:37 am #

    The Cypress banks re-opened as planned and there was no run on the banks. Egypt is a powder keg of spontaneous violence but poverty and misery are nothing new there so the gas lines get longer for private vehicle owners. Presumably the Muslim Brotherhood will cut a deal with the World Bank or deal with really angry citizens. My guess – the Brotherhood will cut a deal because keeping the power is way more important than helping the People (the Brotherhood learned that from US Congress).
    The US will kick the can down the road for the umpteenth time. Maybe the can has always been kicked down the road. People will argue about 2nd amendment rights v. safety of our children. Eventually The Supreme Court will rule on the matter. No civil war will erupt here either. And those who claim they will hold onto their guns until they are pried out of their cold, dead hands are kidding themselves. They will cave instantly as a convoy of Marines arrives.
    No one in the US will starve even if all the banks collapsed simultaneously. Sadly, lots of people could live for months on their body fat alone. People on life-saving medications would have a tougher time. No insulin for diabetics would be certain death. But for the rest of us, we’ll muddle on. Always have, always will. The only thing that would really change this planet would be a vast pandemic — some lightening fast disease wiping out the human population. Probably won’t happen either. Neither will zombies or little green men from Mars. This is not a Sci Fi novel. This is life. Muddle on.

  10. Dirk April 1, 2013 at 9:39 am #

    Quite. To be sure ‘civilizations’ have survived but nations have not. That is, previously successful nations, like the Romans, collapsed (read contracted) for the exact same reasons the US nation is; lack of cheap and readily available energy and REAL actual wealth to finance the whole thing. We can fool each other that pretend wealth will continue to pass for real wealth only so long. We can lie that there will be a new oil/gas ‘boom.’ In the past, collapsed nations simply became other nations as populations shifted to find new, better, more abundant resources. Today, unless you happen to have a spare planet or two we can pilfer, there is no place……no more resources….on this planet to fuel another round of human expansion. And there is the darkness.

  11. shorty April 1, 2013 at 9:47 am #

    Chicken Little Willie? Jilted Reagan toadie Stockman? Bernie the Commie? Why not just include “Dow 500” Prechter with his IdiotWave theory and new science of Psychonomics? The power and scope of the modern welfare national security state is just awesome. Total control. Almost occult in its reach, scope, and power. No, Jim, the pathological welfare-warfare state is getting stronger every day while you and your followers are sinking…….sinking ……..sinking

  12. noel bodie April 1, 2013 at 9:50 am #

    Now that I’ve had my Monday morning helping of “Special K” I’m ready to head to the field to cultivate garlic. Excellent comments fellow readers!

  13. Pepp April 1, 2013 at 9:53 am #

    thanks for your weekly column, Jim.. Its after midnight for me here in Sydney AU, luckily I get to read the responses before the regular lunatics start their usual dreary shit, so lucky me, for a change.
    Things of a peculiar and particularly British nature are about to roll over that tiny yet significant island as of today. A huge and sweeping redistribution of ‘money’ will be absent from a great many people when the Brits wake up tomorrow, the great ‘reform’ and cuts of the Cameron Govt will kick in, this being the apparent ‘solution’ to Englands debt crisis..
    Worth keeping a beady eye upon
    Down here, right on the Antarctics eyebrow, we jog along.. hard hot summer, bushfires, floods, you name it. China still mad for our iron ore, bauxite, rutile, copper, gold, the cargo ships ply out and back, the wheat was good, the wool clip was fine, just cant get that AU dollar to get under the US dollar though, a tremendous irritation, I hate parity, but I hate having a stronger dollar than the US one even more, it just buggers me.
    keep up in good health, Jim.
    Pepp in Sydney.

  14. Tangurena April 1, 2013 at 9:55 am #

    Stockman was the clown that came up with “trickle down economics”, so his judgement is more than a bit suspect. Unless he’s managed to develop a conscience on his deathbed.

  15. Moondog April 1, 2013 at 10:09 am #

    I would add Matt Taibbi a seventh name on your list; he is far and above the finest swindle-articulator.

  16. 3rd Generation April 1, 2013 at 10:14 am #

    “Everything of value that wasn’t nailed down was taken, and everything that remains is broken, including the ragged population.”
    Nice sentence, and So True.
    I was worried about you listening to this weeks KunstlerCast.
    I just figured it was the meds talking…
    Next week, try a few lines from the Book of Revelation. anything will do. Even the most NASCAR amongst readers will surely ‘Get it’.
    Fuck Wal-Mart.
    Yesterday, near where I am, a man in a purple colored low-rider made a kamikazee-style run INTO a Wal-Mart store, crashing through the front door subsequent to running amok in the parking lot. Now THAT is a heavy jones for Cheese Doodles and chaep plastic shit no one needs Made in China by baby slaves.
    America is Dead. The dupes deserve what’s coming.

  17. Micheal Skinner April 1, 2013 at 10:16 am #

    I enjoyed your rendition of The Story of the Stones last Friday, especially the comedy english accent. I hope your recovery is going well.

  18. newworld April 1, 2013 at 10:17 am #

    Keyensian is the finest example of trickle down economics, its just laundered thru the government or their cronies, think Obama and Dimon with Holder the Blind running interference.
    The Egyptians can thank QE and Ben Bernanke for their lines. Those people are as economically productive as the average ‘Muuurikan, but since money is produced then shoveled to the prop desks we have on average 100 dollar oil. Absent QE I can easily see $30 dollar oil and the developing world joining our party.

  19. newworld April 1, 2013 at 10:22 am #

    You welfare statists and you know who you are, you own this, all of it from too big too fail banks, to school districts full of morons with Obama phones they use to coordinate “Wilding Season” and the drone wars that keep the lid on the backlash against Pax Americana, its yours, its KosAmerica.

  20. ront April 1, 2013 at 10:24 am #

    It is a worthwhile pursuit if one possesses a capacity for it to try to understand what is happening in the world and to where these happenings may lead. Thanks to JHK and others for caring and sharing these observations and insights in this arena and other resources.
    This understanding, intellectual and ever-limited, is grist for the mill of choosing, acting, one’s sense to duty, and heartfelt expressions of love. The following are as two stones for milling the grist:
    “Anything that is given can be at once taken away. We have to learn never to expect anything, and when it comes it’s no more than a gift on loan.” –John McGahern, The Leavetaking
    “There isn’t any secret formula or method. You learn love by loving–by paying attention and doing what one thereby discovers has to be done.” –Aldous Huxley

  21. dplainview April 1, 2013 at 10:24 am #

    The only exit will be war.

  22. Bukko Canukko April 1, 2013 at 10:41 am #

    The first reversion from First World living standards to a World Made by Hand lifestyle might come on Cyprus. Since their financial system has been cut off from the imaginary debt-cash needed to buy things that come from outside the island — like oil — the Cypriots might soon be living on a cash-and-carry basis. As in, “You can afford exactly as much oil as you can pay for with the pounds dropped by Britain in exchange for naval base rent and the euros left at the bar by fat drunks staggering off the cruise ships.” Perhaps the Greek side of the island will decide on a rescue plan that involves joining up with the Turks. Wouldn’t it be odd if “the sick man of Europe” is the one that can offer a cure to Cyprus?

  23. adequatio April 1, 2013 at 10:42 am #

    War is not the answer. Ront has given the correct answer:
    “There isn’t any secret formula or method. You learn love by loving–by paying attention and doing what one thereby discovers has to be done.” –Aldous Huxley
    Paying attention: another way of saying meditation.
    Thank you, Aldous.

  24. Smokyjoe April 1, 2013 at 10:56 am #

    I’ll play contrarian this week to one of JHK’s claims.
    As the world currency system unravels, as it does seem bound to do, North America may not sit in the cold and darkness. Though the future of shale oil and gas are highly uncertain as long-term bets, in the short term they will provide enough fuel for us to limp along if the global banking system collapses.
    And I suspect that’s what we’ll face: a crisis in the short-term. So my fears are less of gas lines and shortages of heating fuels than of seized-up banks and empty stores.
    In November 2008 I used cash to finance some DIY renovations. It was chilling. In both Sears and Home Depot on weekends, the aisles were EMPTY. I felt like Heston in The Omega Man. There were, literally, more clerks than customers.
    I fear returning to that palpable sense of doom in the air. The unemployed won’t burn as much gasoline or natural gas, but they might rise up and take it, doing some other burning along the way.

  25. lucky 13 April 1, 2013 at 10:58 am #

    ‘Why couldn’t the Head of the Secret Service, for example, have been, say, a flaming Hispanic homosexual or something. Don’t these film makers understand that the PC diversity wealth has to be spread around?’
    Like obongos poet?
    Though this was President Barack Obama’s second inaugural ceremony, it included a few historic firsts.
    Richard Blanco, a Cuban-American poet, became the youngest poet to recite a poem at a presidential inauguration, according to the Associated Press.
    Blanco, the son of immigrant parents, is also the first Hispanic and first openly gay poet to fulfill this role.
    As the Miami Herald noted, Blanco joins an exclusive group of only five poets who have recited poems at a presidential inauguration, including the likes of Robert Frost, Maya Angelou, William Miller and Elizabeth Alexander.
    Like wow, what crap:
    My face, your face, millions of faces in morning’s mirrors,
    each one yawning to life, crescendoing into our day:
    pencil-yellow school buses, the rhythm of traffic lights,
    fruit stands: apples, limes, and oranges arrayed like rainbows
    begging our praise. Silver trucks heavy with oil or paper — bricks or milk, teeming over highways alongside us,
    on our way to clean tables, read ledgers, or save lives — to teach geometry, or ring up groceries as my mother did
    for twenty years, so I could write this poem.

  26. clive doucet April 1, 2013 at 11:03 am #

    Post Clusterfuck Nation
    Ever since I read “The Long Emergency: Confronting the Converging Crisis of the 21st century’ I’ve been a fan of Jim Kunstler. When I was a city councillor, I brought him to Ottawa to speak and it was a very successful event. The hall was packed to hear America’s Jeremiah preach the coming economic and political meltdown and I continue the connection to this day.
    Reading his weekly blog ‘Clusterfuck Nation’ is like a taking an intellectual emetic. One read is enough to flush the dyspepsia of the previous week’s repetitive news cycles which trumpet more events but never new directions.
    The only problem with Jim’s Clusterfuck Nation rants is the same one as the original Jeremiah had. It’s a long, long drop from our current state of petroleum based bliss to the one where people will abandon just-in-time global production, cheap franchise distribution and the world re-localizes.
    I have no doubt Jim is right and it will happen, but unlike Mr. Kunstler I don’t believe there’s any collective cliff face waiting for us to drive over. Rather it is going to be a city by city progression, province and state by state parade. It’s going to be more like a moth eating away at a wool blanket. At first the holes are scarcely noticed. There is simply too much systemic inertia, supported by too much global investment in more cars, trucks, oil, bigger boats and jumbo jets.
    It will be a long series of small, downward steps, each one taking us a little closer to the return of local economies that Kunstler writes so eloquently about. The most successful economies will continue to be the ones that find a multitude of ways of slowing and managing the steps down as the European Nordic nations are doing today.
    It’s not especially complicated. Look at the city of Detriot or Cyprus and you can get clear images of the steps down in operation today, but that doesn’t mean it’s coming to New York or Toronto anytime soon. As frustrating as it is for Jim Kunstler, there’s simply too much money to be made out of supporting the status quo, but in a more perfect world this is how the steps down would be delayed and reduced.
    1) The financial meltdown. Solution: Return progressive taxation to all sectors of society including the banks. Get rid of derivative and currency speculation entirely. Societies can’t succeed with fewer and fewer people bearing the costs. It didn’t work in the 18th century and it’s not going to work in the 21st. In the long term, it creates a revolutionary scenario and in the short term starves both the public and individual capacity. But progressive taxation won’t work by retaining today’s expenditure patterns. There’s no point in improving public revenue generation if it just means there’s more money for wars in Africans deserts and Asian mountains.
    2) The governance meltdown. Solution. Share the taxes more fairly. Cities get 8 cents of every tax dollar; the federal government gets 50 per cent but provides fewer services. This isn’t sustainable. Can you imagine the Mayor of Toronto flying in his armoured car to Calgary for a meeting? Even if he wanted to, he doesn’t have the cash.
    3) The environmental meltdown. Solution. Stop subsidizing the oil and car industries. One underground parking space costs 15 to 25,000 dollars depending on where it is. Surface storage costs 5 to 10,000 per slot. Each private vehicle requires 8 storage spaces. No society can continue successfully when it costs more to store machines that it does to house people.
    Urban Meltdown: Get off the global umbilical cord. Local rail. Local energy. Local food.
    That’s the way we start to walk down the stairs instead of driving happily forward until we arrive at the cliff face. Will it happen? It has already begun in some countries, but not in Canada. Our current crop of federal leaders have made it clear, they are followers and to give them credit, they have been clear about this. When every other nation get their tax, environmental, tax and public investment acts together, including developing nations then Canada will consider following. In the meantime, it’s business and politics as usual.
    Needless to say, followers don’t have much street cred. No one cares anymore if Canada has ‘the bomb’ or not, or is more interesting in armed intervention than ‘keeping the peace’, or vice versa. Canada has become a ‘you-lead, we’ll follow country’ while managing to retain it’s unpleasant hectoring qualities as in ‘our banks are better than your banks’. Not a way to win friends and influence people.
    Reading, Jim Kunstler’s ‘Clusterfuck Nation’ blog is a pleasant diversion, but it’s very existence in the blog world and not as a syndicated column in the mainstream print media is proof enough that it is the sound of Jeremiah howling and not North America changing. -30-
    Clive Doucet is a writer and former Ottawa City Councillor. He is a retired Jeremiah. His latest book is “Shooting The Bruce”. It can be purchased electronically in electronic or print versions. It has no redeeming social importance.

  27. laceration April 1, 2013 at 11:55 am #

    just six remaining people in the political arena…??
    That’s going to generate a lot of comments. First of all you left yourself off the list. I’d say there is double or even triple that number. Why else would I have all these open tabs on my browser that I never get around to reading. I’ll just mention one, since he deserves special mention and like Stockman was part of the alt-energy destroying, El Salvador death squad supporting, idiot James Watt, but still kicked ass on Obama, Regan Administration. That would be Paul Craig Roberts (http://paulcraigroberts.org). Though he doesn’t match the prose artistry of JHK(but who does?) he lucidly explicates the specter of our impending doom like a kick in the nuts. Clusterfuckians do not miss this guy!

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  30. Frank April 1, 2013 at 12:05 pm #

    Actually, Cuba has been going through this for quite some time. For totally different reasons, Cuba has had to deal with no/not much oil and cash/barter trade policies. Two things demonstrated…
    One… It ain’t a pretty picture. They are poor after all. But poverty is relative…
    Two… It ain’t the end of the world. What they lack in Play Stations and SUV’s they make up in sports and community.
    We in this hemisphere could learn a lot from the Cubans. How they have survived the hardships and deprivations and manage to thrive without all the accouterments and potions of modern technology. We could, but I suspect we’ll just continue demonizing them as “Commies” and “Thirdworlders” even as we slide down past them.

  31. wardoc April 1, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

    ….the effort by Russia, China, and others to isolate and neutralize the US dollar….
    Great column but the above statement is perhaps the most revealing, yet unknown by the amerikan public, about the future. The BRIC trading block, has now added South Africa (think strategic metals that can hardly be found elsewhere; we can’t get them in Bacan BTW). Just this weekend, Australia announced that its dealings with China (and thus the BRIC block) will no longer be in the $USD; they will use whatever the Chinese prefer (e.g. Gold Trade Notes, Yuan). The whole Bretton Woods things is falling completely apart; eventually the US and the UK will be trading worthless paper with each other for worthless things and be completely isolated from the BRIC dominated world.
    The real question is….what will it take for the above and similar degenerative (for us) processes to become known by the amerikan public to the point where they actually pull aware from watching “dancing with the stars” and react? Perhaps the psychoanalytic guys on Madison Ave will be able to get the public to eat canned dog food and think its stylish and cool.
    But regardless, at some point even the eaters of dog food become aware that they have been screwed, and take up their pitch forks, hoes, or whatever weapons they can find and go after someone!!! That’s when the SHTF.

  32. GAZ April 1, 2013 at 12:22 pm #

    Hungry people riot, starving people do what they are told to do for food.

  33. rube-i-con April 1, 2013 at 12:33 pm #

    “Things are breaking loose. Holes have appeared in the fabric of fraud and lies that passes for the world money system.”
    HAHA, yet another sky-is-falling opening by the master of missed predictions. Can K. get any lamer than this drivel he puts for month after month?
    Remember how Greece was supposed to be the deathknell of the EU? “It’s unravelling now…”
    Now it’s Cyprus. HAHA
    Yet another boner prediction by K.
    Money can be created at a whim & in any amount necessary to cover “black holes”. Ergo there is no unravelling.
    Kunstler is like a rock band that’s always almost on the verge of being good & famous but just lakks that spark of talent. He can place or show, but he never wins. Just can’t get separate the hyperbole from the real world.
    This shtick plays well to the cataclysm crowd, but it’s seriously divorced from reality.
    There is no World Made by Hand coming. Kunster’s said in all seriousness that people will once again be behind mules doing the plowing in the future.
    God. And this passes for intelligent analyis?
    We went thru K’s End Times in 2008, please explain, Sir, why people aren’t all destitute and farming on a local level and no one has a job ennymore? Please splain (as certain-tinged Poet Laureates might say) why the 10K-mile salad still exists.
    Please explain why the airlines are still flying? They were all s’posed to go bankrupt due to no one having money to fly and jet fuel skyrocketing.
    Jeezus, it’s just one after another wrongass ‘prediction’ after another.
    K. is in the same league as Robert Prechter and his Elliott Wave claptrap, which had gold going to $300/oz and the stock market to 2,200.
    Financial tip: do the opposite of what K thinks shud be dunn.
    Societal tip: expect the opposite of whut K. thinks will happen.

  34. laceration April 1, 2013 at 12:38 pm #

    You are right. I’m trying to develop Permaculture where I live. Cuba is light years ahead of anything in the US as this video “El poder de la comunidad. Como Cuba sobrevivio al pico del petróleo” (Translation– “The Power of Community. How Cuba survived Peak Oil”) shows. The video is in English.

  35. jim e April 1, 2013 at 12:39 pm #


  36. pedal pusher April 1, 2013 at 12:48 pm #

    There’s been a good deal of corpobabble on the financial pages about trillions of dollars “on the sidelines” of big business accounts, waiting for the right investment opportunities to arise. Mish has always expressed doubts about the existence of such fortunes. His current blog entry (look it up) has facts and figures that pretty much put the last nail into the coffin of the ‘corporate trillions’ myth.

  37. ComradeDystopia April 1, 2013 at 12:51 pm #

    Nice crack at the New York Times, Jim. That rag really has devolved into an entity without consequence. This past Sunday I read it for the first time in years, cover to cover. What did I find out? Editorially, they’re all in for Gay Marriage. That’s about it. Rosa Parks good, Sarah Palin bad. The same bullshit from the past 50 years recycled over and over. No surprises and nothing new. I got it for free at the office … I’ll be goddammed if I’m going to pay for that piece of sh-t.

  38. Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2013 at 12:59 pm #

    Extraordinary that Mr Kunstler doesn’t believe in Globalism – that is to say, that a powerful movement of People who do believe in it exists. And they intend to use the chaos, some of it engendered by themselves, to try and create such a World. Of course the Economy has to crash before that can happen. Of course Nations have to be ruined.

  39. resignationacceptedokc April 1, 2013 at 1:02 pm #

    It was wonderful to hear your Kunstlercast #222/April 1. Should have been the only thing said in front of the media on the state of the union…
    Another (there are many) Samuel Beckett that seems to glow – “We are all born mad. Some remain so.”
    JHK, thanks!

  40. Carol Newquist April 1, 2013 at 1:02 pm #

    You can say that about the mainstream in general these days, so it’s not just the NYT. In fact, it’s not just the mainstream. Everyone everywhere is repeating the same shit ad nauseum. There’s nothing original. All of this has been rehashed so many times, we need a new word for it; hash and rehash do not adequately describe it.

  41. Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2013 at 1:03 pm #

    One of the main reasons the States United to creat the United States was for mutual protection. Alone, they feared they were too small to defend themselves. Thus once large Nations cease to be viable, they can be conquered by the Globalists. As Kissinger said, the people of the United States don’t want U.N troops now, but someday they may greet them as heroes. Chaos is opportunity and can be creatively manipulated, whether it was intentional or not.

  42. jim e April 1, 2013 at 1:05 pm #

    I am ready for the return of the GOOD King… James Earl Carter,Jr.
    37th and 45th?

  43. Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2013 at 1:10 pm #

    Yes, China has arisen again and again, with one Dynasty following another. But Civilizations can end too: look at Ancient Egypt. Modern Egypt bear no relation to it except the name. Likewise, mass Third World Immigration will end Western Civilization within a century unless it is stopped and reversed. It will call for Mass Deportations at gun point. But the alternative is unthinkable for those who love the West. The hatred that lead the Globalists to betray their own Race and Civilization is beyond belief.

  44. Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2013 at 1:13 pm #

    Yes, the King over the Water. I can see him crossing the Delaware wearing a cardigan, shivering proudly. Jimma for Veep. Rosalynn will be our first Lesbian Queen.

  45. Carol Newquist April 1, 2013 at 1:14 pm #

    I don’t know about you, but I’m looking forward to becoming a shareholder in banks that will suddenly and unexpectedly morph from Too-Big-To-Fail into Too-Big-To-Not-Fail. Ellen Brown covers it nicely. I’m not saying nationalizing the banks is the answer, as if that would ever be done, but she does an excellent job of uncovering what’s in store for us low-level depositors in the West.
    it can happen here: the confiscation scheme planned for us and uk depositors

    An FDIC confiscation of deposits to recapitalize the banks is far different from a simple tax on taxpayers to pay government expenses. The government’s debt is at least arguably the people’s debt, since the government is there to provide services for the people. But when the banks get into trouble with their derivative schemes, they are not serving depositors, who are not getting a cut of the profits. Taking depositor funds is simply theft.
    What should be done is to raise FDIC insurance premiums and make the banks pay to keep their depositors whole, but premiums are already high; and the FDIC, like other government regulatory agencies, is subject to regulatory capture. Deposit insurance has failed, and so has the private banking system that has depended on it for the trust that makes banking work.
    The Cyprus haircut on depositors was called a “wealth tax” and was written off by commentators as “deserved,” because much of the money in Cypriot accounts belongs to foreign oligarchs, tax dodgers and money launderers. But if that template is applied in the US, it will be a tax on the poor and middle class. Wealthy Americans don’t keep most of their money in bank accounts. They keep it in the stock market, in real estate, in over-the-counter derivatives, in gold and silver, and so forth.
    Are you safe, then, if your money is in gold and silver? Apparently not – if it’s stored in a safety deposit box in the bank. Homeland Security has reportedly told banks that it has authority to seize the contents of safety deposit boxes without a warrant when it’s a matter of “national security,” which a major bank crisis no doubt will be.

  46. Carol Newquist April 1, 2013 at 1:20 pm #

    I did not have sex with that peanut.

  47. GARY April 1, 2013 at 1:27 pm #

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    Fresh from their Triumphant Tour of The Wastelands of upstate New York,
    please welcome:

  48. Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2013 at 1:29 pm #

    According to Chuck “U” Schumer, we’re going to have amnesty before the border is secured. He told people not to worry about that. It makes sense: amnesty is a huge gift to the Democrats, so the Republicans have to get something. Open borders will continue to keep the flow of cheap labor coming. It will increase with Amnesty as more Hispanics dream of “freedom” – free health care, welfare, food stamps, education etc – all on the backs of White Slaves to stupid and cowardly to rebel.

  49. adequatio April 1, 2013 at 1:30 pm #

    Cyprus did not give haircuts to low level depositors under $100,000.
    This article is one more reason not to buy gold or silver or use the big banks. (use your local credit union instead) Thanks, Carol.

  50. Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2013 at 1:53 pm #

    Rush makes an interesting point: perhaps the Judge killed in Texas was killed by Mexican Drug Lords. It happens all the time in Mexico. As Mexico moves north, why shouldn’t it happen here as well?
    Blaming it on White Gangs is natural and inevitable, especially with Amnesty on the line.

  51. Zed Leppt In April 1, 2013 at 2:03 pm #

    Last Friday in Miami it was less Entrophy Fair and more Bridges Over Troubled Wagers for Mr. Obama as he made the case for more private investment in public infrastructure projects. He gave an upbeat speech at the Port of Miami after touring a new billion dollar public/privately funded tunnel project at the site, touting this as an example of the good times ahead for America. This sounds like a good idea – get some of that bank bailout money back into circulation. Curiously though, the only info I could find on the private tunnel funders is that it is a consortium of foreign banks I’d never heard of that were funneling the investment through a trust in Luxembourg. Obama didn’t mention any details on what sort of guarantees the Fed would put up to cover any of these private debt deals that blow up, but he does want to eliminate taxes on foreign trusts that buy US assets: Yoo-hoo nervous tax haven clients. The criticism I’ve been reading about PPI funding schemes is that it just moves the infrastructure debt off the books. The private investors aren’t doing this as Good Samaritan gestures either, they expect inflated rents, fees, interest, tax exemptions, etc. for their troubles and the public ends up paying more for projects in the long run than a straight forward government bond issue would have cost. And if Wall Street investment banks start bundling the debt for these projects they will have a brand new vehicle for creating all sorts of dodgy financial derivatives just like they did with home mortgages. Imagine the post-bubble mess of trying to figure out who actually owns and is responsible for the upkeep of your local water treatment plant.
    There was also a symbolic gaffe at this event that most of the press missed (not the obvious under-water hole under a city which may itself be under water in the not-too-distant future), rather the huge dock-side gantry cranes behind the president’s podium had American flags strategically placed over the manufacture’s logo. A breeze carried off one the flags revealing ZPMC. That’s the logo for the Chinese state owned Shanghai Zhenhua Heavy Industries Co., the largest manufacture of container loading cranes in the world (that’s pretty irony irony… *groan*). This company is also supplying the modular bridge deck sections for the new San Francisco Bay Bridge. I’m sure Mr. Obama will be making a rousingly patriotic speech on that structure soon…once all the Chinese delivery vessels are out of sight. Coo coo ca choo Mr. Obama-son , heaven holds a place for those pay, hey hey hey, CEOs loves you more than you will know, whoa whoa whoa. Apologies to S&G fans.

  52. Carol Newquist April 1, 2013 at 2:29 pm #

    Cyprus was benign compared to what they have in store for low-level depositors in the West per Ellen’s analysis. Since the FDIC was involved in drafting the directive that will change deposits, or a portion thereof, into equity positions, i.e. stock, that nullifies any former protection afforded those deposits, meaning all deposits, regardless of dollar amount, are at risk as unsecured creditors. The derivatives are going to fail, we know that, it’s just a matter of when. The derivative counterparties are first in line as secured creditors, and your deposits are their collateral. It’s like taking candy from a baby because “they” make the rules. How did derivative counterparties become secured creditors? The Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005, that’s how. Remember, Obama supported that legislation when he was a Senator from Illinois. In otherwords, he supported legislation that takes from the poor and gives to the rich. That doesn’t sound very Communist to me.

    In the US, depositors have actually been put in a worse position than Cyprus deposit-holders, at least if they are at the big banks that play in the derivatives casino. The regulators have turned a blind eye as banks use their depositaries to fund derivatives exposures. And as bad as that is, the depositors, unlike their Cypriot confreres, aren’t even senior creditors. Remember Lehman? When the investment bank failed, unsecured creditors (and remember, depositors are unsecured creditors) got eight cents on the dollar. One big reason was that derivatives counterparties require collateral for any exposures, meaning they are secured creditors. The 2005 bankruptcy reforms made derivatives counterparties senior to unsecured lenders.
    One might wonder why the posting of collateral by a derivative counterparty, at some percentage of full exposure, makes the creditor “secured,” while the depositor who puts up 100 cents on the dollar is “unsecured.” But moving on – Smith writes:
    Lehman had only two itty bitty banking subsidiaries, and to my knowledge, was not gathering retail deposits. But as readers may recall, Bank of America moved most of its derivatives from its Merrill Lynch operation [to] its depositary in late 2011.
    Its “depositary” is the arm of the bank that takes deposits; and at B of A, that means lots and lots of deposits. The deposits are now subject to being wiped out by a major derivatives loss. How bad could that be? Smith quotes Bloomberg:
    Bank of America’s holding company . . . held almost $75 trillion of derivatives at the end of June . . . .
    That compares with JPMorgan’s deposit-taking entity, JPMorgan Chase Bank NA, which contained 99 percent of the New York-based firm’s $79 trillion of notional derivatives, the OCC data show.

  53. Zed Leppt In April 1, 2013 at 2:33 pm #

    I enjoyed your April Fool’s Beckett reading on the Kunstlercast (in spite of the corny Dick-Van-Dyke-in-Mary-Poppins English accent). The absurdity of the prose is like a Myth of Sisyphus in miniature, or Miff of Siffifuth if you’re sucking on a stone. Since that piece came back to you in your anesthetized state in the hospital, I’ll take it that the post-op drugs are doing a groovy job – wish you well in your recovery.

  54. greyghost05 April 1, 2013 at 2:45 pm #

    Egypt fuckin’ Egypt ?
    One of many world class train wrecks. They now will be receiving all those shinny new M1A1 Abrams tanks and hot new F-16’s. What they need to do is get their water pumps running on solar power. Sell off the tanks & jets and fix what’s wrong with Egypt. But that would be too simple. So lets starve and shoot each other with all those looted Lybian AK 47’s and RPG’s.
    Why is it that being self supporting when it comes to growing enough to eat is looked down upon ? From the local community level to national policy. Growing enough to feed the population takes 2nd place.

  55. kleymo April 1, 2013 at 3:41 pm #

    A Modest Proposal for Preventing the World From Being a Burden to the Continued Operation of the God-given American Way of Life and Its Global Community
    It saddens one in these days of woe to drive in one’s SUV of choice in the great suburbs of our God-given land and see the streets, the roads, the entryways to Walmart and other God-given shopping centers crowded with consumers of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags and importuning every passenger for an alms. These mothers, instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants: who as they grow up either turn thieves for want of work, or leave their dear native suburbs for walkable neighborhoods in city centers.
    I think it is agreed by all parties that the prodigious number of children in the rest of the world, on the backs, or at the heels of their mothers, and frequently of their fathers, is in the present deplorable state of the suburban way of life a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these children sound, useful members of the Global Community, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the suburban way of life.
    But my intention is very far from being confined to provide only for the children of professed non-suburbanites; it is of a much greater extent, and shall take in the whole number of infants at a certain age who are born of parents in effect as little able to support them as those who demand our charity in the streets.
    ”I have been assured by a very knowing New Yorker of my acquaintance in upstate New York, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled …”
    As to my own part, having turned my thoughts for many years upon this important subject, and maturely weighed the several schemes of other projectors, I have always found them grossly mistaken in the computation. It is true, a child just dropped from its dam may be supported by her milk for a solar year, with little other nourishment; at most not above the value of $20, which the mother may certainly get, or the value in scraps, by her lawful occupation of begging; and it is exactly at one year old that I propose to provide for them in such a manner as instead of being a charge upon their parents or the Global Community, or wanting food and raiment for the rest of their lives, they shall on the contrary contribute to the feeding, and partly to the clothing, of many thousands in the God-given American suburbs.
    There is likewise another great advantage in my scheme, that it will prevent those voluntary abortions (praise be to Bob Dobbs), and that horrid practice of women murdering their bastard children, alas! too frequent among us! sacrificing the poor innocent babes I doubt more to avoid the expense than the shame, which would move tears and pity in the most savage and inhuman breast.
    The number of souls in this Global Community being usually reckoned seven billion, of these I calculate there may be about two billion couples whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty million couples who are able to maintain their own children in the God-given suburbs, although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the Global Community; but this being granted, there will remain an 1.7 billion breeders. I again subtract 5 hundred million for those women who miscarry, or whose children die by accident or disease within the year. There only remains 1.67 billion children of poor parents annually born. The question therefore is, how this number shall be reared and provided for, which, as I have already said, under the present situation of affairs, is utterly impossible by all the methods hitherto proposed. For we can neither employ them in handicraft or agriculture in the agricultural towers of the cities; we neither build houses (I mean in the country) nor cultivate land: they can very seldom pick up a livelihood by stealing, till they arrive at six years old, except where they are of towardly parts, although I confess they learn the rudiments much earlier, during which time, they can however be properly looked upon only as probationers, as I have been informed by a principal gentleman in the county of Saratoga, who protested to me that he never knew above one or two instances under the age of six, even in a part of the suburbs so renowned for the quickest proficiency in that art.
    I am assured by the most honorable Mr. Dimon, that a boy or a girl before twelve years old is no salable commodity; and even when they come to this age they will not yield above three thousand dollars, or four thousand and half at most on the free market; which cannot turn to account either to the parents or Global Community, the charge of nutriment and rags having been at least four times that value.
    I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.
    I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in Saratoga Springs, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.
    I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the many children already computed, a substantial number may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the persons of suburban quality and fortune through the Global Community; always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.
    I have reckoned upon a medium that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds, and in a solar year, if tolerably nursed, increaseth to 28 pounds.
    I grant this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children.
    Infant’s flesh will be in season throughout the year, but more plentiful in March, and a little before and after; for we are told by a grave author, an eminent New York physician, that fish from the Pacific Ocean being a prolific diet, there are more children born in Asian countries about nine months after the Chinese New Year than at any other season; therefore, reckoning a year after Chinese New Year, the markets will be more glutted than usual, because the number of Asian infants is at least three to one in the rest the Global Community: and therefore it will have one other collateral advantage, by lessening the number of Asians among us.
    I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar’s child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, laborers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about $20 per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten dollars for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend or his own family to dine with him. Thus the suburbanite will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants; the mother will have $10 net profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child.
    Those who are more thrifty (as I must confess the times require) may flay the carcass; the skin of which artificially dressed will make admirable gloves for ladies, and summer boots for fine gentlemen.
    As to our cities not in the suburbs, shambles may be appointed for this purpose in the most convenient parts of it, and butchers we may be assured will not be wanting; although I rather recommend buying the children alive, and dressing them hot from the knife, as we do roasting pigs.
    A very worthy person, Milton Friedman, a true lover of his God-given suburbs, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased in discoursing on this matter to offer a refinement upon my scheme. He said that many gentlemen of the Global Community, having of late destroyed their deer, he conceived that the want of venison might be well supplied by the bodies of young lads and maidens, not exceeding fourteen years of age nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes in every country being now ready to starve for want of work and service; and these to be disposed of by their parents, if alive, or otherwise by their nearest relations. But with due deference to so excellent a friend and so deserving a fellow suburbanite, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the males, my American acquaintance assured me, from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean, like that of our schoolboys by continual exercise, and their taste disagreeable; and to fatten them would not answer the charge. Then as to the females, it would, I think, with humble submission be a loss to the public, because they soon would become breeders themselves; and besides, it is not improbable that some scrupulous people might be apt to censure such a practice (although indeed very unjustly), as a little bordering upon cruelty; which, I confess, hath always been with me the strongest objection against any project, however so well intended.
    But in order to justify my friend, he confessed that this expedient was put into his head by the famous Psalmanazar, a native of the Chicago School, who came from thence to Washington D.C above twenty years ago, and in conversation told my friend, that in his country when any young person happened to be put to death, the executioner sold the carcass to persons of quality as a prime dainty; and that in his time the body of a plump girl of fifteen, who was crucified for an attempt to poison the Dean of an Economics Department, was sold to members of the Republican and Democratic Parties, and other great mandarins of the court, in joints from the gibbet, at four hundred crowns. Neither indeed can I deny, that if the same use were made of several plump young girls in this town, who without one single groat to their fortunes cannot stir abroad without a chair, and appear at playhouse and assemblies in foreign fineries which they never will pay for, the Global Community would not be the worse.
    Some persons of a desponding spirit are in great concern about that vast number of poor people, who are aged, diseased, or maimed, and I have been desired to employ my thoughts what course may be taken to ease the suburbs of so grievous an encumbrance. But I am not in the least pain upon that matter, because it is very well known that they are every day dying and rotting by cold and famine, and filth and vermin, as fast as can be reasonably expected. And as to the young laborers, they are now in as hopeful a condition; they cannot get work, and consequently pine away for want of nourishment, to a degree that if at any time they are accidentally hired to common labor, they have not strength to perform it; and thus the country and themselves are happily delivered from the evils to come.
    I have too long digressed, and therefore shall return to my subject. I think the advantages by the proposal which I have made are obvious and many, as well as of the highest importance.
    For first, as I have already observed, it would greatly lessen the number of Asiatics with whom we are yearly overrun, being the principal breeders of the Global Community as well as our most dangerous enemies; and who stay at home on purpose with a design to deliver the suburbs to the Communists, hoping to take their advantage by the absence of so many good suburbanites, who have chosen rather to leave their country than stay at home and pay tithes against their conscience to an obdurate curate.
    Secondly, The poorer tenants will have something valuable of their own, which by law may be made liable to distress and help to pay their landlord’s rent, their corn starch and compact cars being already seized, and student debt to pay even upon pain of bankruptcy.
    Thirdly, Whereas the maintenance of an millions of children, from two years old and upward, cannot be computed at less than ten dollars a-piece per annum, the nation’s stock will be thereby increased many billions of collateralized dollars per annum, beside the profit of a new dish introduced to the tables of all gentlemen of fortune in the suburbs who have any refinement in taste. And the money will circulate among ourselves AT A LOCAL LEVEL, the goods being entirely of our own growth and manufacture.
    Fourthly, The constant breeders, beside the gain of ten dollars per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the charge of maintaining them after the first year.
    Fifthly, This food would likewise bring great custom to shopping malls; where the restaurant chains will certainly be so prudent as to procure the best receipts for dressing it to perfection, and consequently have their chains frequented by all the fine gentlemen, who justly value themselves upon their knowledge in good eating: and a skillful minimum wage illegal cook, who understands how to oblige his guests, will contrive to make it as expensive as they please.
    Sixthly, This would be a great inducement to marriage ONLY BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN, which all wise nations have either encouraged by rewards or enforced by laws and penalties. It would increase the care and tenderness of mothers toward their children, when they were sure of a settlement for life to the poor babes, provided in some sort by the public, to their annual profit instead of expense. We should see an honest emulation among the married women, which of them could bring the fattest child to the market. Men would become as fond of their wives during the time of their pregnancy as they are now of their mares in foal, their cows in calf, their sows when they are ready to farrow; nor offer to beat or kick them (as is too frequent a practice) for fear of a miscarriage.
    Many other advantages might be enumerated. For instance, the addition of some thousand carcasses in our exportation of barreled beef to Japan, the propagation of swine’s flesh, and improvement in the art of making good bacon, so much wanted among us by the great destruction of pigs, too frequent at our tables; which are no way comparable in taste or magnificence to a well-grown, fat, yearling child, which roasted whole will make a considerable figure at a Goldman Sachs executive’s feast or any other public entertainment. But this and many others I omit, being studious of brevity.
    I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my God-given suburbs and the Global Community, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing.
    Jamie Dimon

  56. bproman April 1, 2013 at 3:48 pm #

    Rubber boots are looking good as we walk in the valley of stinky rotten fiat usery currency crap.

  57. CaptSpaulding April 1, 2013 at 3:58 pm #

    Great column as usual. People will have to be forced by circumstances to get them to change their ways. Nobody is gonna want to give up their car, we’ll have to run up the price of gas. Nowhere in history has a people voluntarily given up their way of life. They have to be forced. That’s probably gonna wind up to be a wild ride until things settle into a new pattern dictated by all the things there are to go wrong, from scarce oil to global warming, etc.

  58. insufferable April 1, 2013 at 4:11 pm #

    my husband just remarked to me this morning that he is really worried about the current state of the economy and its affect on business. He seemed to think its really the end of the road. He processes orders, then sends them out then bills the customers and they dont pay. He has a factory in Queens NY and to say that its bad is an understatement. He is trying to sell the building but the largest real estate man from China is in hiding because he went bust. Can you imagine!. Anyway, I am on unemployment and at the end of my teaching career soon anyway. So what does the Baby Boom generation have to look forward to. …nothing but poverty, sickness and death. Lets hope there is a heaven to look forward to over that big rainbow in the sky. What a mess.

  59. Kyooshtik April 1, 2013 at 4:38 pm #

    If you travel around the towns of the upper Hudson Valley – once an industrial corridor full of Jimmy Stewart type burgs – it’s beginning to look like the country Borat grew up in. Everything of value that wasn’t nailed down was taken, and everything that remains is broken, including the ragged population.
    It’s not just the upper Hudson Valley, Jim.
    Yesterday, Easter Sunday, the Q-clan converged on my b-i-l’s modest McMansion in Washington, NJ. To get there one drives north on Rt 31 and hangs a left oblique right after the barn-shaped Dairy Queen with the pink roof.
    Immediately you are in a burg out of the past that has seen better days. You proceed through the dead center of town and out the other side till you come to a crossroads where lying to your upper right is a rectangle of land of approximately a square mile on which was thrown up 15 years or so ago numerous Pulte? Hovnanian? homes totally incongruous with everything they abut. Further, they are 40 or 50 miles from any serious employment opportunities other than bagger at Shoprite.
    As we passed through Washington I noted the general dilapidation. There was not a home that couldn’t have used a fresh coat of paint or a new roof. In a stretch of one mile I passed only one individual on foot… a slow-moving twenty something male blimp with an expressionless face. I would have given even money that beneath his nondescript jacket was a flabby bicep encircled by a tattoo of barbed-wire obtained as an expression of his unique personality.

  60. Carol Newquist April 1, 2013 at 4:50 pm #

    Just as I surmised, not even five minutes of walking had passed before I located a Starbucks at the corner of E. 97th St. and Lexington Ave. As I approached, I made a wide berth around a woman and her Golden Retriever, the ladder of whom was in the midst of its morning bowel movement. It, the dog I mean, stared at me ever so pleasantly and calmly as it dutifully went about its business. I’m glad humans aren’t so unflappably nonchalant about where and how they relieve themselves. If they were, Manhattan, or any city, wouldn’t be quite the same, Mumbai aside. Thomas Crapper is a saint; blessings to him for his wonderful contribution to humanity.
    Dogs and cities don’t belong together, especially larger breeds like Golden Retrievers. We have a Golden, and I couldn’t imagine it in Manhattan. It’s downright cruel if you ask me, just as it’s cruel to cage a bird and clip its wings. Birds were meant to fly, and dogs were meant to run and chase. From the looks of the dogs I’ve seen on this short walk, they’re neurotically deranged. It’s bad enough we domesticated these former wolves and in doing so bequeathed them with all manner of psychological quirks, but to add further fuel to that fire by confining them in tight quarters is not much better than confining a calf in a dark box to render veal. Be that as it may, I could not, and would not want the repulsive task of picking up the dog’s shit and disposing of it properly. I cringe, and laugh, when I see people doing this, but I suppose it’s better than stepping in it; but still, what about the residue left behind? If we were to spray the sidewalk surfaces with a solution that revealed the residue of the dog reliefs, we’d soon realize we’re all stepping in it anyway. I thought I left the rococo paranoia in the lobby, but alas, it follows me wherever I go. “Think positive thoughts; you’re on vacation, remember?” Nah, who cares anyway? Not me. Not anymore.
    Starbucks was in the process of coming alive, but not necessarily the employees and the patrons. They were more like zombies. Perhaps years of city life had inured them to all the city had to offer. They’d learned to protect themselves from the stimulation overload by switching to zombie mode. The effect on an outsider looking in like myself, was likened to being on set in the shooting of The Stepford Wives. “I’ll just die if I don’t get this recipe.” Alright, maybe that’s a bit harsh, but without any notable exceptions yet, they’re all on auto-pilot and the vivacious, engaging side of them, if they have one, has been sequestered in a locked file somewhere in the remote reaches of their neural network.
    You have to chuckle at the absurdity of Starbucks. All I wanted was a simple, sizeable, quality cup of coffee, but the corporate business model doesn’t accommodate such inane notions. Instead, they have to hide that simple, sizeable, quality cup in a sea of absurdly pricey and distracting product offerings. Unless you’re familiar with the set-up, this is not an easy endeavor, so make sure you step aside and figure it all out before you get in line and get up to the counter. These people, both the zombified employees and patrons alike, mean business, so there can be no hesitation or questioning. You know what you want, say what you want, pay for it and get out of the way, or else suffer the impingement of a thousand consternating stares.
    Amidst the coffee and tea a million ways, to include the bottled Caramel Frappuccino, Cinnamon Dolce Latte, Hazelnut Macchiato, Iced White Chocolate Mocha and Tazo Vanilla Rooibos Tea Latte, I managed to locate a simple, sizeable, quality cup of their brewed coffee of the day, but at Starbucks there are no small, medium or large sizes; instead, it’s Short, Tall, Grande, Venti and Trenti. Whatever. I despise that word, but this is one of the few times it’s appropriate and applies. I went with two Grandes with steamed milk; not a Latte, but instead, a lesser amount of milk steamed in order to avoid curdling and to keep the coffee hot since Gwen and I wouldn’t be sitting down to enjoy it for at least another twenty minutes. Whew! Finally. All that for coffee. We must be nuts. The things you do for religion. I successfully navigated the pretension and secured the focus of our day-break sacrament. Now, it was just a matter of transporting the blood of our Christ back to the room without dropping it. That would be a tragedy.
    Success! I placed the coffee on the altar, in this case the suite’s kitchen table, and proceeded to sweeten my Grande with the requisite amount of sugar. “Through him, with him, and in him.” Stop it. Yes, this is a ritual, but it’s not THAT ritual. Even though I had left the Catholic religion long ago, remaining vestiges will occasionally manifest, to include the prayers priests would recite during various parts of the Mass. As I made my way to the bedroom I took note of Robin and Sean cuddled together, deep asleep on the sofa bed. It touched my heart to see them like this, so peaceful and affectionate with one another. It’s a vision that indelibly imprints in one’s memory, to be recalled when they’re grown and gone, and you withered and lonely.
    The bedroom was a tomb, cold and dark, and the sleep machine filled it with the sound of bacteria hard at work amplified a million times. You do not jar Gwen awake. She must be gently roused with a slight wiggle of the toe, and a languid “it’s time to get up.” If you are abrupt with her in any way, you’ll pay dearly for your transgression. Think Lorena Bobbitt on Angel Dust (PCP). Over the years, I perfected a method of rousing her without losing my penis and I employed that tried and true method before exiting the room.
    While she was rising from the dead, I set up the kitchen chairs out on the balcony and positioned myself in the one closest to the door so I could hold on in case the structure was compromised in any way by the former Director of Humint’s Special Ops goons. The weird feeling in my crotch returned and still I had no suspenders. At this rate, I would end up a eunuch before we left Manhattan. The sliding door tugged at my Cold Dead Hand firmly gripping the handle. Gwen made her way onto the balcony closing the door, with my Cold Dead Hand attached, behind her. She leaned over the railing and took in the Upper East Side. I was terrified for her. If it was a mouse or a cockroach, she would have been screaming, but what’s to fear about hard concrete twenty some stories below? Get over it already.
    She took her seat and a sip from her Starbucks brewed Grande. “It’s good, but not as good as ours,” she admitted. “I agree, it’s not,” I replied and added, “if you’d have let me bring our coffee maker from home, we wouldn’t have had to settle.” “I told you before, I didn’t want to take the chance of breaking it,” she rebutted. I relented, “I know, and this isn’t terrible coffee. How about this view?” “I love it, this is great,” she responded. It was great. The sun had risen about a half hour earlier, and Manhattan was changing shifts. The car horns, the jack hammers and drills, the shouts and yelling, the boat whistles and roar of the passenger jets all contributed to a cacophonous katzenjammer that was the heartbeat of the city, and there we were, far above it sitting in the catbird seat, ritualistically at one with our second or third best morning cup. Life is good.

  61. Doc Holliday April 1, 2013 at 5:05 pm #

    One of the many nice things about this post is the lack of name calling and vitriol.
    Most of us can discuss and comment without resort to this.
    Some can’t.

  62. lucky 13 April 1, 2013 at 5:50 pm #

    A population that has practically tripled in 50 years, folks living on a dollar a day.

  63. kleymo April 1, 2013 at 6:05 pm #

    Lucky 13,
    How many one year olds are in Egypt?

  64. malthus April 1, 2013 at 6:08 pm #

    Yep that’s what we need. A good ole fashioned gold rush. Solve a lot of our problems. Bars, honky tonks, pimps, whores, piano players, card sharps, grifters (politicians, and wall street investors) of all kinds. Some will make it, most won’t but we will have a lot of fun and some stories to tell. Gold, Silver, my ass. More manipulated commodities. There will be stranger things told in the land of the midnight sun this time around.

  65. Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2013 at 6:26 pm #

    You must be in mourning for the passing of Laurence Auster, a pretend friend of White Nationalism who in reality wished to bend it to serve Israel. He failed. White are waking up and realizing that we are Alone and that we have no friends except possibly ourselves. How frightening for some and empowering to others.
    The Jews have always known that. Now we are learning to do as they do not as they say. I pray that you awaken to this Truth.

  66. Carol Newquist April 1, 2013 at 6:43 pm #

    If we must have banks, I much prefer one like this versus the Ponzi banks on Wall Street. How long can the charade continue? That’s the question. Is the rug being pulled before the oil runs out? It sure seems that way.

    In 1919, the Non-Partisan League, a vibrant populist organization, won a majority in the legislature and voted the bank into existence. The goal was to free North Dakota farmers from impoverishing debt dependence on the big banks in the Twin Cities, Chicago and New York. More than 90 years later, this state-owned bank is thriving as it helps the state’s community banks, businesses, consumers and students obtain loans at reasonable rates. It also delivers a handsome profit to its owners — the 700,000 residents of North Dakota. In 2011, the BND provided more than $70 million to the state’s coffers. Extrapolate that profit-per-person to a big state like California and you’re looking at an extra $3.8 billion a year in state revenues that could be used to fund education and infrastructure
    Each time we pay our state and local taxes — and all manner of fees — the state deposits those revenues in a bank. If you’re in any state but North Dakota, nearly all of these deposits end up in Wall Street’s too-big to-fail banks, because those banks are the only entities large enough to handle the load. The vast majority of the nation’s 7,000 community banks are too small to provide the array of cash management services that state and local governments require. We’re talking big bucks; at least $1 trillion of our local tax dollars find their way to Wall Street banks, according to Marc Armstrong, executive director of the Public Banking Institute.
    So, not only are we, as taxpayers, on the hook for too-big-to-fail Wall Street banks, but we also end up giving our tax dollars to these same banks each and every time we pay a sales tax or property tax or buy a fishing license. In North Dakota, however, all that public revenue runs through its public state bank, which in turn reinvests in the state’s small businesses and public infrastructure via partnerships with 80 small community banks.

  67. Kyooshtik April 1, 2013 at 6:55 pm #

    I made a wide berth around a woman and her Golden Retriever, the ladder of whom was in the midst of its morning bowel movement.
    I’ll restrict myself to pointing out only the bolded word above. There were innumerable misplaced and/or excessive commas I could have quibbled about but life is short.

  68. San Jose Mom 51 April 1, 2013 at 7:01 pm #

    I’ve got two 401Ks. Since mid 2008 I’ve been doomy and gloomy and had both of them gathering dust (more dust than interest) in cash. But in early March I told myself “enough is enough” and I put one 401K in the Wells Fargo Wealth Builder-moderate balanced.
    With the other 401K I’m going pick stocks that I like….software security, maybe some Sprint stock. I’m sick and tired of getting $.90 cents a month in interest.

  69. edpell April 1, 2013 at 7:09 pm #

    Wow, you are in fine form this week. This is great.

  70. Carol Newquist April 1, 2013 at 7:13 pm #

    Thanks, glad you liked it. It’s encouragement like this that keeps me going.

  71. Casual Observer April 1, 2013 at 7:27 pm #

    As the world crumbles around us everything is OK in Fort Myers, Florida. Oldsters wander about oblivious to the monetary fiascos that await!

  72. Carol Newquist April 1, 2013 at 7:32 pm #

    Perhaps the best thing to do is “tell her to find me an acre of land, between the salt water and the sea strands.”
    What a great song. So many memories, and of course Benjamin stalking Elaine around campus to the tune of it. Wrap your head around this. In four short years it will be fifty years since that movie was made, and it was all there….the words of those prophets on The Graduate wall. Nothing’s changed, or if it has, it’s gotten even worse. Oh well, sometimes it’s nice to think about what could have been…if only.

  73. Jimmy Drinkwater April 1, 2013 at 7:48 pm #

    Many speak nebulously of coming doom but no one ever says when.

  74. sevenmmm April 1, 2013 at 7:51 pm #

    Jim Wille nails it every single issue. I’ll check out the Stockman book, thank you very much.

  75. sevenmmm April 1, 2013 at 7:54 pm #

    Nobody knows when. There still may be some trick left in the system to keep it on life support for a long time. Or maybe not. There is still enough US tax revenue to leverage so my guess is for the US is 2016.

  76. Jimmy Drinkwater April 1, 2013 at 8:08 pm #

    Thanks, at least for taking a stab at it.

  77. Jimmy Drinkwater April 1, 2013 at 8:15 pm #

    …busy even as we speak….

    China and Brazil Sign $30bn Currency Swap Agreement
    China and Brazil have signed a currency swap deal, designed to safeguard against future global financial crises.
    The pact, first announced last year, will allow their central banks to swap local currencies worth up to 190bn yuan or 60bn reais ($30bn; £20bn).
    Officials said this will ensure smooth bilateral trade, regardless of global financial conditions.
    China has been pushing for a more international role for its currency, the yuan. It has been trying to promote the yuan as an alternative to the US dollar as a global reserve currency.
    As part of that push, it has signed a series of swap deals with some of its key trading partners.
    Such agreements not only allow central banks to swap currencies, but can also be used by firms to settle trade in local currencies rather than in US dollars, as happens now, since China’s currency is not fully convertible to other currencies.


  78. eud2e5s7 April 1, 2013 at 9:01 pm #

    „Wir haben zahlreiche Anrufe von Gesch?digten bis aus den USA. Das Dunkelfeld scheint unfassbar gro?“, sagte ein Polizeisprecher am Mittwoch.

    Um keine Stammkunden zu verprellen, waren offenbar gezielt weit gereiste M?nner ausgew?hlt worden. Die Polizei richtete für die Opfer eine Telefon-Hotline ein (+ 49 211 8705701). Die Ermittler gehen von über 100 000 Euro Beute aus.

    Unterdessen wurde Wollersheim am Mittwoch der Haftbefehl verkündet. Das sagte ein Sprecher des Düsseldorfer Amtsgerichts. Der 61-J?hrige kam in Untersuchungshaft. Wollersheims Anwalt Carsten Rubarth sagte auf Anfrage, für ihn sei die Darstellung der Staatsanwaltschaft nicht nachvollziehbar.

    Er kenne bislang keinen Beweis, der eine Rolle seines Mandanten als Drahtzieher belegen würde, habe allerdings bislang keine Akteneinsicht gehabt. Der 61-J?hrige stehe auch nicht im Verdacht, selbst Menschen bet?ubt oder unerlaubte Abbuchungen auf ihren Kreditkarten vorgenommen zu haben.

    „Wir sind mit der Situation nicht glücklich, aber sehr gelassen“, sagte Rubarth. Auch Wollersheim selbst sei zuversichtlich, dass sein Ruf als ehrlicher Gesch?ftsmann am Ende des Strafverfahrens weiter Bestand habe.

    Um die Opfer von Strafanzeigen abzuhalten, waren sie den Ermittlern zufolge inmitten von Prostituierten und gro?en Champagnerflaschen abgelichtet worden. Damit sollte ein vermeintlich erheblicher Konsum von sexuellen Dienstleistungen und teuren Getr?nken dokumentiert werden. Die Fotos seien dann als Druckmittel verwendet worden. Es wird gegen 80 Verd?chtige ermittelt.

    Bordellbesitzer Wollersheim ist seit vielen Jahren eine schillernde Figur im Rotlichtmilieu. Bundesweit bekannt wurde er mit der Fernseh-Serie „Die Wollersheims“. 400 Polizisten hatten am Dienstag seine Etablissements und sein Anwesen durchsucht.

    Wollersheim war Mitte der 1990er Jahre wegen erpresserischen Menschenraubs verurteilt worden und hat bereits eine Weile im Gef?ngnis verbracht. Eine Prostituierte hatte sich in einen Rechtsanwalt verliebt und war zu ihm gezogen. Als der Anwalt eine „Abl?sesumme“ verweigerte, war die Frau auf Wollersheims Ranch am Niederrhein verschleppt und gefangen gehalten worden.

  79. progress4conserving April 1, 2013 at 10:50 pm #

    “Stockman characterizes the financial action of recent decades a “leveraged buyout of the USA” and it sure looks that way. If you travel around the towns of the upper Hudson Valley – once an industrial corridor full of Jimmy Stewart type burgs – it’s beginning to look like the country Borat grew up in. Everything of value that wasn’t nailed down was taken, and everything that remains is broken, including the ragged population.”
    Crazy. Insane. Unforgivable. Deliberate.
    Deliberate, JHK. I know you don’t like conspiracy theories – but how could this happen, otherwise.
    Free Market American Style Capitalism leads to this?? This is the best we can do?
    And into this madness, our Congresspersons actually propose to “legalize” unknown millions of immigrants, who will likely never return to help their home countries, once this “legalization” occurs. And we add this to the the 12 MILLION unemployed persons in the US, presently – including the “broken” population of your own Hudson Valley.
    I’m really sorry about the folks in Cyprus, Slovenia, and all the rest that you point out for us weekly. But I can’t help them. I’m doing well to help my own family, right now. And the US will soon be unable to help anyone, unless we reduce our population growth due to immigration.
    “Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rate for whites (6.8 percent) declined in February while the rates for adult men (7.1 percent), adult women (7.0 percent), teenagers (25.1 percent), blacks (13.8 percent), and Hispanics (9.6 percent) showed little or no change. The jobless rate for Asians was 6.1 percent (not seasonally adjusted), little changed from a year earlier.”
    There are 313,000,000 souls in the US now.
    We grow at 3 million/year – largely due to immigration.
    Complete and utter disaster looms, both economic and environmental.
    There is still power in the collective political willpower of the American People –
    Although that power is being deliberately diluted by immigration policy, and may soon be broken.
    I will now wait for a racially based attack from the pro-immigration CFN troll.

  80. Ixnei April 1, 2013 at 10:55 pm #

    “architectural eyesore for this month?”
    Hehehe!!! 3 to choose *from*! [hic!]

  81. Brett Stevens April 1, 2013 at 11:41 pm #

    End stage democracies are all the same: having wasted their time on popular wishful thinking, and then come to the ugly result of these unrealistic plans not working, they can’t conclude that they were wrong. That would indict the people and point out that they’re incompetent to rule themselves. Thus instead, they must trot out some bogeyman — racists, satanist, communists, christians — and blame that, which allows them to loot the remaining wealth and spend it. The elites are never fooled however and make sure to get their “share,” which they then spirit out of the country before leaving the sinking ship themselves.

  82. Shakazulu April 1, 2013 at 11:58 pm #

    “nirvana is a place of cold and darkness… with the vague odor of rotting fish”
    Better than fire, smoke, and the smell of brimstone wafting through the land, which describes the not-too-distant future of America.

  83. Shakazulu April 2, 2013 at 12:03 am #

    Entropy Faire where parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme are replaced by parsimony, rage, rosemary’s baby, and very little time to live.

  84. lucky 13 April 2, 2013 at 12:18 am #


  85. Eleuthero5 April 2, 2013 at 1:00 am #

    JD said:
    Many speak nebulously of coming doom but no one ever says when.
    What’s the point of trying to be like those cultists whose exact-date predictions never turn out to be correct?
    I think it’s increasingly obvious that if this culture goes another ten years in its current state it’d be damned near a miracle. Here in a supposedly “boom” town (Palo Alto, CA), the Apple Store has gone from bursting full every day to as many employees standing around as customers. Five restauranteurs told me that the Jan.-Feb. they had was the worst since 2006 and that’s saying something.
    When one LIVES through an era in a failing empire, the decline always seems excruciatingly slow. But when future people read about an empire going from king-of-the-hill in the 1990s to dead meet by 2020, it seems like a flash, historically.

  86. Kyooshtik April 2, 2013 at 1:15 am #

    I had this email exchange last Friday (re the sequester) with my eldest son who works for the Army in Maryland as a civilian. It amused me.
    Q to son: I see in the news that the 22 days of furlough is being reduced to 14. This means instead of suffering a 20% cut in pay it will “only” be 12.7%.
    Son replies: Yeah, it reminds me of when Tom [second son] years ago used to borrow money from me…. He would ask to borrow $100 and then about a half hour later say “You know what, I just realized I only need $60, here is $40 back.” Then I would feel good and feel like I came out on top! 😉

  87. Kyooshtik April 2, 2013 at 1:21 am #

    … going from king-of-the-hill in the 1990s to dead meet by 2020, it seems like a flash, historically.

  88. lucky 13 April 2, 2013 at 1:33 am #

    Palo Alto, land of riche Asian Immigrants.
    How bout this?

  89. lucky 13 April 2, 2013 at 1:40 am #

    On Easter, Google could have chosen nothing or anything, but chose a “community organizer as their Easter Sunday image!!!!!!!!!!!

  90. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 7:34 am #

    This is why all of us should prefer a holding of the middle ground for as long as possible; the can perpetually kicked to the illusive event horizon. Sure, progress and change will never be fully realized, but self-imposed pain and suffering that will inevitably come from a populist reaction is not a suitable alternative. Recent history has shown that populist reactions in dying plutocracies end in catastrophe. Think of all those lives sacrificed, voluntarily and involuntarily, in Russia’s struggle to free itself from the grips of exploitative hierarchy. Think of the all the lives lost as a result of Germany’s populist reaction to the end of its plutocracy as a result of its defeat in WWI. In both cases, the middle didn’t hold. The elite sided with the populists, or were driven out, but either way, a great many of them escaped the worst of it, whilst the common man annihilated each other in the process of allegedly restoring honor and order. I will avoid a populist approach with every benefiber of my being, and if I see that this is where all this is headed, I will make my arrangements to get out of its way, because as we have seen, it will be horrifically brutal.

  91. fashinrashin April 2, 2013 at 8:03 am #

    “Russia and China will build gold-backed currencies aimed at monopolizing the trade in mineral and energy resources, leaving America and much of Europe to freeze in the dark and sit on gasoline lines at the empty filling stations.”
    Partially true and realistic. However, the projections for the USA to be energy independent by 2020 are very real. I dont like the fracking industry but that gas coupled with the Tar Sands in Canada and Mexican oil reserves plus all the new reserves found in this country is actually making China and Russia pretty nervous. Let alone how this affects geopolitics vis a vis the middle east and the USA.
    See this great report for further info –

  92. Scribblerlarry April 2, 2013 at 8:29 am #

    The spirit of the Titanic lives on in America, boldly forging ahead with a glib, “Ice? What ice……..?”
    Can you say, “Glub…..Glub…..Glub?!”

  93. ComradeDystopia April 2, 2013 at 8:50 am #

    Jim, I checked out that Wills Blog you reference. Combined with what you say it makes for a pretty hair-raising scenario. But I have CNBC on right now and Dow Futures come in as +61. And the commentators are talking about ‘having faith in the market’. They must not be reading the same material as we do.
    Cyprus is described as a little pisshole place, not worthy of our attention. The same must have been said of Sarajevo in July 1914 when the Archduke was assassinated. That is, if anyone here took any notice of that event at all. It was on the other side of the world, and everything was going so well up to that time.
    Hey FashiRashin, if we will be energy independent in a short 7 years, why is crude at $97.00 per barrel today? Shouldn’t the price be coming down to the optimal $20 per barrel, if there is so much of it? $20 is the price point traditionally thought of that would allow the producers to make a reasonable profit, and the Western economies to operate smoothly. In that golden day, in 2020, will a barrel of oil be $20 once again?
    And Crazy Eddie, Detroit must be coming back strong! That’s what I thought when I heard about the $180 million contract the Detroit Tigers gave pitcher Justin Verlander. Are all of you vicariously basking in Verlander’s good fortune up there in Michigan? Ya, it must be a strong, healthy robust economy that can pay a baseball player $180 million.

  94. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 8:57 am #

    However, the projections for the USA to be energy independent by 2020 are very real.
    Energy independence is a canard, nothing more. It’s a cover for investors looking to drive up the price. This article spells it out nicely. This is about the U.S. becoming an energy exporter again, not about it becoming energy independent. The ladder (just for you, Q) cover story is to get the idiotic, so-called conservatives to fashion themselves yet another set of chains and support initiatives that are clearly in opposition to their own best interests.

    We’re told over and over again that we just HAVE to approve every imaginable oil and gas project in order to achieve energy independence for America.
    So how come the minute they get approval, the companies turn around and immediately demand the right to export all that energy?
    From coal to tar-sands oil to coal to fracked natural gas, the process is repeated over and over again.
    The latest: 26 companies are demanding approval to build insanely expensive liquefied natural gas export terminals. Why? Gas is too cheap in America. They want to be able to send it off to Europe and Japan where prices are much higher. This would be great for the gas companies… they’d reap huge profits on the exports, plus they’d create scarcity in the US as well, driving up prices for all of us.
    So… why on earth should we let them do this?
    Over at the Century Foundation, Charlie Morris points out that this is even worse for the US than you’d guess:

  95. ront April 2, 2013 at 9:45 am #

    PBS last night: 2 min. video or see transcript:
    “…a decade ago we started shelling out $2.2 trillion for a war in Iraq born of fraud. We can’t afford it, while Dick Cheney’s old outfit Halliburton raked in $40 billion worth of contracts because of that war. We can’t afford it, while the State Department doles out three billion dollars over five years in private security contracts to protect its gargantuan new embassy in Baghdad….”
    Bill Moyers Essay: The Hypocrisy of ‘Justice for All’ | Moyers & Company | BillMoyers.com
    Why is true justice — not just the word we recite from the Pledge of Allegiance — still unafford

  96. fashinrashin April 2, 2013 at 10:11 am #

    I suppose you are one of those that dont like your personal paradigm being challenged eh?
    Cant help what the projections are on energy, and I cant help that the oil prices have little to do with supply and demands and more to do with manipulation.
    FYI C.D. it costs $20.00 a barrel just to get the oil tar out of the sand. Please look it up before knee jerking to the point that you need 2 new patellas.
    Sorry I burst you dystopian bubbles, much of what Jim says is right on the money but he does make mistakes – just like all of us.

  97. ozone April 2, 2013 at 10:15 am #

    “I think it’s increasingly obvious that if this culture goes another ten years in its current state it’d be damned near a miracle.” -E.
    Here’s a nice encapsulation of the sweet goddess of Modern McCommerce bestowing her generous “gifts”:
    BOOM TOWN -Greg Brown
    Here come the artists with their intense faces, with their need for money and quiet spaces.
    They leave New York, they leave L.A..
    Here they are – who knows how long they’ll stay –
    [chorus:] It’s a Boomtown got another Boomtown and it’ll boom just as long as boom has room.
    Here come the tourists with their blank stares, with their fanny packs – they are penny millionaires.
    Something interesting happened here long time ago.
    Now where people used to live their lives the restless come and go.
    [repeat chorus]
    Nice to meet you, nice to see you
    in a sheepskin coat made in Korea.
    Welcome to the new age, the new century.
    Welcome to a town with no real reason to be. [repeat chorus]
    The rich build sensitive houses and pass their staff around.
    For the rest of us, it’s trailers on the outskirts of town.
    We carry them their coffee, wash their shiny cars,
    hear all about how lucky we are to be living in a … [repeat chorus]
    The guy from California moves in and relaxes. The natives have to move – they cannot pay the taxes. Santa Fe has had it. Sedona has, too.
    Maybe you’ll be lucky – maybe your town will be the new… [repeat chorus]
    In a strange sort of reading-of-the-tea-leaves kinda way, I’ve been watching the entire “output” of 30 Rock (minus the ads) on Netflix over the last couple months. It’s all quite subversively topical, although I don’t think this is very noticeable unless watched in some back-to-back-to-another session. (That totals a bit over an hour.) We’re talking a run from Oct. 2006 to Jan. 2013. I happen to be going through the 2012 season right now.
    It’s quite the bit of time lapse photography of the ‘Murkin zeitgeist; this place has gone to shit in the blink of a historical eye, and shows no sign of veering off of the road to hell… and the accelerator is actually being mashed down harder! I hold no hope for a window of “coming to our senses”. This turd of an extractive “system” we intend to keep polishing until doomsday, portends that we will find ourselves in very deep doo-doo before desperately flailing about for alternatives. Practice poverty before it comes busting through the door like a ravening berserker of a stranger. (Yes, I know, the Netflix and internet [of a piece] is an extravagance, but it’s cheap entertainment for the short time being.)

  98. ozone April 2, 2013 at 10:35 am #

    “Jim, I checked out that Wills Blog you reference. Combined with what you say it makes for a pretty hair-raising scenario. But I have CNBC on right now and Dow Futures come in as +61. And the commentators are talking about ‘having faith in the market’. They must not be reading the same material as we do.” -CD
    I’d have to say that the last sentence of that particular paragraph is one of the finest understatements of the year, so far! ;o)
    Not only are the pundits not reading the same [easily accessed] material, they’re in frantic, willful denial; it appears they’ve stuck their fingers in their ears and are yelling, “Lalalalalala-I-can’t-hear-you!”

  99. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 10:52 am #

    It’s a ridiculous notion to believe the Alberta Tar Sands oil can lead to North American oil independence as the following article professionally points out:

    The world currently burns through an estimated 88.25 million barrels of oil per day. As the supply of sweet, light crude diminishes, it is being replaced by unconventional alternatives, including tar sands.
    Most unconventional energy sources have much lower efficiencies than conventional gas and oil, which operate at a combined energy-returned-on-investment ratio of about 18:1. Shale gas, for example, performs at about 6.5:1 to 7.6:1—a bit better than the 2.9:1 to 5.1 for tar sands oil. Corn ethanol, with an EROI of about 1.3:1, sits at the bottom of the barrel for investment pay off.
    “If you accept the fact that fossil fuels are finite—and I think most people would—then using a lot more fossil fuels for recovering energy as opposed to doing actual work basically uses them up quicker with no net payback in terms of useful work,” Hughes said. “It’s an issue of diminishing returns.”
    Canada is touted as having the third largest oil reserves in the world. But its supply of conventional oil is shrinking, and oil sands extraction has been growing fast in the past decade, from about 700,000 barrels per day in 2000 to 1.7 million today.
    Hughes based his calculations on the 25.6 billion barrels of Canadian tar sands oil that are currently under active development. What concerns him more is the EROI of the estimated 143 billion additional barrels of oil sands that are sitting under Alberta’s boreal forests, especially since only 8 percent of that oil is accessible via surface mining.
    “Those EROI numbers are going to go down as we move away from the highest quality to the lesser quality parts of the resource,” Hughes said. “I’d expect that downward shift to probably start about now.”
    “Cost-wise, this is the most expensive oil being produced today,” Dyer said. “It’s a pretty clear indicator that our solution to energy needs is not chasing lower and lower quality fossil fuel resources that come with higher impacts.”
    If oil sands oil eventually finds an easy outlet to the Gulf Coast—perhaps through the proposed Keystone XL pipeline project—the price for upgraded synthetic oil will likely rise to reflect the world market value, currently $110 per barrel.
    Profitability aside, the development of Canada’s oil sands reserves will never offset declines in crude oil. At the world’s current rate of oil consumption—32.2 billion barrels per year—Canada’s tar sands oil reserves remain at a finite 168.6 billion barrels, enough to keep the world fueled for less than six years.

  100. ozone April 2, 2013 at 10:53 am #

    JHK sez:
    “…That’s right, sooner or later Russia and China will get theirs, too. But in the meantime they have the ability to make the story a lot more interesting.”
    [Bones to Kirk]
    Damnit, Jeeim, there’s that crusty ol’ Chinese curse again! I’m a DOCTOR, not a miracle-worker!

  101. Kyooshtik April 2, 2013 at 11:10 am #

    Think of the all the lives lost as a result
    Suggestion: Proof read BEFORE clicking Submit.

  102. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 11:14 am #

    Thanks, glad you liked it. It’s encouragement like this that keeps me going.

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  105. Zev Paiss April 2, 2013 at 11:32 am #

    I was so inspired to read today that the City of Los Angeles has finally completed a massive effort to eliminate gridlock in their fair city.
    After 30 years in development and costing 400 million dollars the 4,500 traffic lights in the city are now synchronized! That is so awesome. It is projected that it can cut off a massive 2 minutes for a 20 minute commute! What will the technologists think of next.
    Now we can all go back to happy motoring and know that Angelenos will be spending just a little bit less time in their cars.
    See another more hopeful vision of our future at http://www.fromhere-tothere.org

  106. ComradeDystopia April 2, 2013 at 11:58 am #

    Hey FashiRashi I wasn’t trying to be provocative. Sorry you took it the wrong way. I think the question I asked about the price of a barrel of oil is a legitimate one.
    Oz, is that a poem, or lyrics to a song?
    Mirrors exactly where I grew up, Collinsville, CT. Used to be a place where strong men fashioned useful implements out of steel and iron, now a place for artists and would be artists. (I don’t know how good some of the art is, but some pretty nice people nevertheless)

  107. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 12:07 pm #

    Used to be a place where strong men fashioned useful implements out of steel and iron
    I’m assuming this comment alludes to a world made by hand, but more specifically, white hands. The indigenous people of North America prior to the arrival of the Anglo devils, lived in a world made by hand that was very different from the one to which you allude. There were no “strong men” fashioning implements out of steel and iron. I won’t speak for others, but I know I don’t want to return to the world made by hand you envision. I prefer another more imaginative and creative world made by hand. In that future world made by hand, you and I cannot coexist; one or the other will have to go by the wayside. Who will it be? I think this time around, it will be you and what you represent that will going by that wayside, but only time will tell. I’m betting I have more of it…time, that is.

  108. ozone April 2, 2013 at 12:22 pm #

    Them’s lyrics to a song, and as you can “see”, there are spots with some very “unique” phrasing! It’s quite the sprightly little number and Greg Brown always seems to pull off the torturous turns of meter vs. phrasing incongruities.
    From pundits unknown, here’s a pointed perspective on the decidedly purposeful (and psychopathically cynical) manipulation of financial markets for the gain of a very select few. No accidental convergences here.:

  109. Kyooshtik April 2, 2013 at 12:27 pm #

    Hey Welles, the POlice would like you to stop by the station for questioning. ;o)
    Nary a word in the article about the race/color of the perps. I guess that would be a no-no akin to profiling.

  110. lucky 13 April 2, 2013 at 12:30 pm #

    Thanks, we are 10? 20? million in SoCal and growing.
    Good to know the cameras on lights have been removed in some cities.

  111. Jimmy Drinkwater April 2, 2013 at 12:43 pm #

    JD said:
    Many speak nebulously of coming doom but no one ever says when.

    What’s the point of trying to be like those cultists whose exact-date predictions never turn out to be correct?
    Exactly, that goes without saying. Wouldn’t the point to be neither “exact date cultists” nor “bandwagon doom dilettante”? I’ve still yet to see much rational discussion of when.

  112. ComradeDystopia April 2, 2013 at 12:53 pm #

    So, Carol Newquist, you’re an Indian then? You never mentioned that before. You are apparently many things and contain multitudes, like Asoka.

  113. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 1:01 pm #

    Oops! Sorry about that.

  114. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 1:17 pm #

    I can be whatever I choose to be. The fact that I’m a hot voluptuous blonde (a natural one – unlike San Jose Mom – I don’t dye my hair) doesn’t interfere with my thoughts and missives. I like being a natural blonde, cause unlike Jen, I find that men like the drapes and carpet to match, if you catch my drift.

  115. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 1:32 pm #

    I love my life which allows me to explore my natural talents of writing and do some part time interior decorating. My job takes me to many parts of the states, including but not limited to Manhattan. Wall Street executives tend to be really self absorbed a-wholes, kinda like E, who thinks that most women are bimbos. Tells me a lot about why he still has a problem getting laid. Poor thing!
    My most recent gig was in Brazil working for an architect. He and his wife just built a home their in San Paolo and they were trying to create an Indian/Southwestern motif. Not an easy task for me to say the least but I think they were satisfied with the final product. Their home will be featured in Architectural Digest this August. Gives me an opportunity to showcase my incredible talent.
    It wasn’t all work and no play though. I got a chance to do some R and R out by their pool after the project was completed. It was great to feel the tropical sun warming my firm, athletic body, my long blonde hair glistening in the sun as I spread cocoa butter all over my legs. I caught the husband leering at me from inside the lanai. He didn’t know I saw him so I called out to him, “Hey, how about a pina colada? Where’s the service in this place?”
    He came out and said he’d love to make me one, but margaritas were his specialty.
    So I said, “Well how about joining me in a margarita?”
    So he said, “Gee, do you think we’d both fit in one?”
    I said, “You know, that’s pretty corny!” I smiled at him, flashing my bright pearly whites.
    To make a long story short, we had a splendid afternoon swimming naked in the pool while his wife was busy shopping in the village. He porked the living daylights out of me. I swear I was still walking bow-legged as I boarded my flight the next day!

  116. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 1:32 pm #

    So you think the Indians were a bunch of sensitive males riding rainbow ponies and worshiping women?
    I like how you then reverse yourself and insinuate survival of the fittest a la Cain and Abel. If I was trapped on a desert island with you, you’d have to leave or else.

  117. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 1:39 pm #

    He and his wife just built a home their in San Paolo
    It was fabulous. I mean it. I laughed out loud. First time since I’ve been reading this forum. Someone actually has a sense of humor.
    One thing, though. It’s there, not their. Otherwise, great work.

  118. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 1:41 pm #

    You’d for sure have to learn how to swim cause I’d kick your ass so hard you couldn’t move away fast enough. I have a green belt in Karate.
    As far as Indian men worshiping women, the Indian man I knew intimately liked to worship my feet and slowly worked his way up to my snatch – something you probably haven’t done to a woman since, oh, I don’t know, forever???LOL! When are you going to make the decision to come out of the closet??

  119. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 1:41 pm #

    In my town, the news reader (not reporter) said, A group of four men, one of them White, assaulted a man. Meanwhile, the word White Male came up on the screen.
    Did you hear about the huge Flash Mob attacks in Chicago? The City is doomed since the police can’t do what is necessary to quell the violence. Whites will begin to leave, followed by stores and businesses.
    Notice how they always have a Black “Reporter” covering the issue, as if to say, “See, there are good ones”! Do you think Teague would have stood for this? Very few Blacks are willing to buck the system that coddles and supports them. Blacks have much stronger racial feeling than Whites do. Everyone does in fact. The capable ones like Teague almost always try to hide the incompetence of the rest.

  120. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 1:42 pm #

    or else.
    Please continue. It’s not like you to be at a loss for words. Elaboration is your middle name, afterall.

  121. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 1:44 pm #

    Another fashionable illusion: that Women can beat up men because they know “karate”. High school athletes can compete successfully againt female Olympians in just about any popular sport.

  122. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    You know, when I was at Harvard in 1969, somebody accused me of having a gay boyfriend. I couldn’t help laughing at him so I just looked at him and said, “You know, I can spot a fag a mile away! With you I don’t even have to be far-sighted!” Same goes for you, my dear.

  123. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    The Elite do think highly of some of their Underlings – just as a man thinks highly of his dog. Real Men would have put down their tools and taken up arms long ago.

  124. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 1:49 pm #

    None of that changes the fact that carolnewquist… can kick your ass. It doesn’t take much more than a slight breeze to knock you down, even if that breeze comes from your own ass. Help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!!

  125. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 1:51 pm #

    I think you meant that he’s fallen and can’t get IT UP! LOL!!! Waitress, another round of Viagra for our friend, please!

  126. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 1:53 pm #

    Waitress, another round of Viagra for our friend, please!
    ….better make it a double, honey!!!

  127. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 1:55 pm #

    Asoka, how low can you go? Do you get paid by the post or are you on salary? Is it really worth this kind of shit?

  128. Rhino April 2, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

    I read in Felix Salmon’s blog an interesting thing about Ecuador. Ecuador? Who gives a shit about Ecuador? Right? But here’s the thing. Chinese oil companies are on the verge of buying roughly 12% of the total land area of Ecuador. Ecuador blundered massively by adopting the USD as its currency in the year 2000. Which in my mind is akin to Cyprus adopting the Euro. Like Cyprus, Ecuador’s debts became unpayable. And, as you might expect, outside finance became out of reach. Nobody would go near Ecuador.
    Except China. Buying stuff on the cheap.
    The Chinese are moving the chess pieces. They have oodles of cash by virtue of the fact that over the last generation or so the American 1% offshored to China America’s industrial capacity. And the Chinese took full advantage and ripped off everything they could, especially intellectual property, then ran up massive trade surpluses and massive piles of cash. Which they are now spending.
    They are apparently taking a pass on financing America’s government deficits (leaving it to the counterfeiters at the Fed to take care of) and are buying up tangible assets instead. Ecuadorian oil fields being one, Canada’s oilsands assets being another, plus investments in Africa and other places.
    What does this have to do with anything? Well, the Chinese in Ecuador are a template for the Russians in Cyprus. So the United States is being outflanked. By money of all things. Ironic considering that money is supposed to be what the United States is all about.
    So your majestic carrier battle groups are helpless in the face of all this money. The US has jets. And missiles. And so what?
    Well, I’ll tell you. They are, as surely as we sit here, bankrupting the American government. And they are pretty much useless, the US having been twice defeated by lightly armed insurgents in countries it invaded for god knows what reason.
    Oh, oil. It was all about oil you say. If only the calculation was that rational. But consider this. Would Iraq have been invaded if not for 9/11 and if not for Saddam’s conquest of Kuwait? I say no. And consider those Iraqi oilfields that western oil companies are now exploiting. Those oil company assets sitting on those oil fields are sitting ducks.
    The Iraqi oil industry was nationalized a long time ago. And now, with the US military having departed with its tail between its legs, it would be as easy as pie to re-nationalize. It would take a small number of men with guns, something that Iraq has in abundance. Nothing much would change except maybe the faces in the corner suites and maybe the bank accounts that the skim goes into. And what would the US do in response? A strongly worded protest? Maybe. Re-invade? Not bloody likely.
    So how long before the Chinese arrive in Baghdad, whispering sweet nothings, talking the talk of friendship, respect and MONEY. And use that money to out manouver and out muscle western interests.
    In the great power game your nuclear subs and massive army and airforce and all those thousands of nukes are millstones. You no longer have the financial and economic ability to carry them.
    The Chinese are playing the much smarter game.

  129. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 1:59 pm #

    Shut up and finish your drink.

  130. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 2:01 pm #

    If you go much farther with this, you’re going to start swishing around in a sun dress.

  131. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 2:01 pm #

    You’d be amazed at what an interior designer can do with a mud hut. Asoka is more of a man than you’ll ever be and it’s not just because he probably has a nice llonng black slong. I’d need a magnifying glass and a good pair of tweezers to find yours, I’d bet. Why don’t you give me a call when you finally grow a pair get tired of hiding behind a sheet and get tired of diddling little boys?

  132. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 2:04 pm #

    Um, no, that would be you trying to be a cock tease to Procon, Q, or your little buddy, Lucky! You tired old ham, you!

  133. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 2:04 pm #

    What do you the chances of the Yuan becoming the World’s de facto Currency – even without an offical Bretton Woods type agreement?

  134. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 2:05 pm #

    No, the Chinese are not playing a much smarter game. The game is a farce because the ship goes down regardless of who wins the game. That’s some prize; all the sea water you’ve ever wanted, and more.
    Enjoy what’s left. Eat, drink, screw and be merry, for tomorrow may be your last.
    There isn’t going to be any war with China. They’re not directly aggressive. Indirectly, they may be, but they already are getting what they want in that regard, so it’s water under the bridge at this point.

  135. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

    We signed over this country’s assets to the Chinese lock stock and barrel. Once we had a great manufacturing base and were the innovators of the world. Then big business got the bright idea that we would offshore all our manufacturing and henceforth its accompanying innovativeness so now we are left with nothing but a lot of empty suits who make money trading derivatives and such nonsense. Look at the stock market and its huge bubble. And poor Jen thinks she’s gonna get in on the action with her probably paltry 401Ks ( I say paltry cause lord knows she probably hasn’t worked since 1982 or so) and rake in a few mil. It ain’t gonna happen, Jen. You’re supposed to buy low and sell high. Ya missed the boat again, dear! The smart thing you could do would be to sell the mcmansion in California and head to someplace that, oh, I don’t know, DOESN’T sit on a major fault line, ready to erupt?
    But typical of Americans, she, like other Americans will continue to be deluded that her house has nowhere to go in value but up, up, up

  136. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 2:18 pm #

    Indirectly, they may be, but they already are getting what they want in that regard, so it’s water under the bridge at this point.
    Case in point:

    China National Petroleum Corp., the country’s biggest oil company, is seeking its first stake in the U.S. as Chinese explorers with $40 billion of cash try to join an energy renaissance unlocking billions of barrels of crude.
    “We are currently studying” investing in U.S. oil, Jiang Jiemin, chairman of the state-run company, said yesterday at the National People’s Congress meetings in Beijing. Domestic rival China Petrochemical Corp. last month agreed to buy stakes in an Oklahoma field from Chesapeake Energy Corp. (CHK) for $1.02 billion.
    Chinese oil companies using government loans want stakes in shale fields that are fostering the most crude production in the U.S. in 21 years and helping wean it off Middle Eastern imports. They’ll be guided by the experience of China’s Cnooc Ltd. (883), whose $19 billion bid for Unocal Corp. was blocked by U.S. lawmakers eight years ago. Cnooc last month won U.S. approval for a $15.1 billion purchase of Nexen Inc. (NXY), albeit with curbs on operating the Canadian company’s Gulf of Mexico fields in U.S. waters.
    “Stake participation by Chinese companies in U.S. oil fields would be welcomed,” said Will Pearson, a London-based analyst for Global Energy & Natural Resources at Eurasia Group. “Full buyouts will continue to be scrutinized and opposed.”

  137. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 3:20 pm #

    Once again, their is only one race, and that is the human race. Mexicans were here long before you were and you’re going to have to get used to the fact that they want their land back. I mean, you stole it from them right? So now they want it back. They worked the land and were respectful of the fruit that came from it. Then you white men came and raped the land and the people, ruthlessly murdering the indigenous population. Well, they want it back. And now you and your white children will have to bow and kneel before them.
    You talk about how Mexicans are displacing blacks, but the fact is that blacks are sick and tired of your brutal attempts to force them to work for free. You have to get over the fact that both groups are ready, willing, and able to kick your white asses. You might consider moving to, oh, I don’t know, Cypress.

  138. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 3:47 pm #

    Less than an hour away from San Francisco, I literally got lost in a beautiful beach town called West Marin. The white sandy beaches are quiet and serene and the surfing is excellent. It kinda reminded me a little of a New England Martha’s Vineyard in that it had tiny shops and small inns. My traveling companion and I were a bit tired after completing a shoot at Nob Hill and we had the rest of the week to burn (and a little bit of spending cash from the shoot). Anyways, this town is an ideal getaway that I’m sure the locals try to keep secret so that it doesn’t get overwhelmed (by people like my friend and me). One of the designers who actually lives in San Fran recommended we check it out and boy were we glad we did.
    We got there as the golden sun was beginning to set, giving the sky a heavenly glow. We decided to check into a small inn for about $70/nite. We quickly changed into our swim suits and headed out for the beach which was a short hike away along a secluded, grassy, desolate trail. The ocean was warm and inviting, seeming to beckon my friend and me in as the waves pummeled against the shore. My friend who is an excellent swimmer, decided to go in for a dip. I decided to just sit on the surf and let the tide crash the waves over my freshly painted toe nails.
    As I watched my friend swim away from the shore my eyes drifted toward the heavens. I watched the clouds drift softly across the sky and felt my eyelids start to get heavy. I don’t think I actually fell asleep but felt as though I had been drugged as the peacefulness of this enchanted paradise overwhelmed my body and soul. It wasn’t long before I woke up and discovered the tide had gone in and the stars were twinkling over my head. My friend was no where to be found. As I scanned the shore as well as the ocean, she was no where to be found… I will continue this gripping tail momentarily.

  139. ozone April 2, 2013 at 4:10 pm #

    What? Banned already? Awwwwwww…
    Don’t grip your tail; just drag your ass.

  140. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 4:16 pm #

    I began to feel a shiver and the cold night air that is common to this part of the country during the early summer caused me to pull my terrycloth robe over my shoulders as I leapt up from the sand frantically searching for my friend. I was beginning to panic. I must have run a one minute mile up and down the shoreline and still no sign of my friend. I saw a young boy about 10 or so collecting sea shells and placing them in a faded red plastic bucket with a white handle. Running up to him I blurted out that I needed help and was afraid that my friend might have drowned.
    He dropped the bucket and grabbed my hand. Together we ran toward a small, sun faded cottage perched on a small knoll. He called out to his mom who came to the door with a white towel wrapped around her head. Her alabaster skin had a golden glow about it and her eyes were an ice cold blue framed by the longest black eyelashes I’d ever seen. I stammered that I was afraid my friend had drowned as I had last seen her swimming in the ocean and I awoke to find her beach bag unmolested and towel untouched. From the darkness of the knotty pine kitchen I heard someone get up from a chair to come toward me. It was my friend who was wrapped in a huge blanket, a steaming cup of coffee still in her hand. She apologized profusely to me as I quickly tried to regain my composure. As I tried to stop shaking, my friend went on to explain that she was walking along the beach after her swim and spotted a raven haired beauty with long legs and a shapely figure. As it turned out this woman was a chum of my friend’s in high school. They were both members of the drama club and had planned on becoming actresses and move to California.
    She and my friend were roommates in West Hollywood during the ’70s. My friend ultimately returned home as a career in motion pictures eluded her. Her roommate had considerably more success, although not in motion pictures. It seems she secured a fairly good career working as an assistant producer at a television studio. After a divorce, this friend had moved from West Hollywood to this charming little beach abode with her son.
    I couldn’t believe that the two of them managed to recognize each other after at least a 20 year period of not even corresponding via telephone. What started out as a 3-5 day mini vacation turned out to be a two month long stay as my friend and I secured a cottage near the same beach but not ocean front. Barbara, my friend’s long lost high school friend had become my friend too. We enjoyed many days and nights with her and her son that long fabulous summer. I carry with me to this day fond memories of that long ago time and place. You can imagine my surprise when Barbara called my friend this past week to invite us to her seaside cottage this summer. We quickly agreed to stay with her for a week but in my secret heart I long for a repeat of that year when a 3-5 day stay turned out to be a glorious and golden summer.

  141. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 4:18 pm #


  142. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 4:23 pm #

    Well done. I like it. It’s like cinema. Keep it coming. It beats the hell out of the racist bullshit from the usual suspects.

  143. Kyooshtik April 2, 2013 at 4:31 pm #

    I woke up and discovered the tide had gone in…… I will continue this gripping tail momentarily.
    Like a monkey’s prehensile tail?
    No, please don’t bother. In fact I beg you not to continue. I don’t want to read a tale of the sea by someone who thinks the tide goes in. How pathetic.
    FYI, tides go out and tides come in. A regular sailor, you are.

  144. Kyooshtik April 2, 2013 at 5:01 pm #

    In the 2 segments of this tail you used the word friend exactly 20 times. There was YOUR friend and then there was your friend’s friend. We eventually learned that the name of your friend’s friend was Barbara but you never said what YOUR friend’s name is. What’s with all the mystery? Don’t you think that once you have established this person’s relationship to you is as a friend that you could segue to using their name?
    I’ve got bad news for you Entity, your writing is getting worse, not better.
    The 10 year old boy was collecting shells at night? He had night vision goggles I guess? His father was in the special forces and had returned recently from a stint in Afghanistan?

  145. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 5:02 pm #

    Of course it’s to late cause I already hit submit. I cannot allow you to interfere with my mission here to share my great literary talent. I can only recommend that you scroll by when you see me passing here. No body is forcing you to read my intense missives. Maybe you should consider volunteering somewhere or something. Since your a grammar buff maybe you can work with some kids in English remediation. I think you would be good at that in that you remind me of an old school marm I had who had a slightly flattened forehead from banging her head against the chalkboard trying to teach me English grammar. Which brings me to another rather funny story I’d like to share.
    In high school I tried to get out of Ms. Hawk’s English class (she was the one with the flattened forehead) by presenting a note from my mom, excusing me from class because I had a job interview. I gave her the note and left class only to hear gales of laughter when I’d almost reached the steps. I asked one of my classmates the next day what caused everyone to laugh after I left. He told me that Ms. Hawk said to the class that whoever hired me would be an idiot.

  146. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 5:06 pm #

    As an artist I consider my writing to be like clay in which I mold the finished product and tailor it to my exact specifications. You help me by editing it for me. Again, thank you for being a “friend”!

  147. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 5:12 pm #

    Isn’t it about time for your wife to call you to supper for your bowel of kibble? Or are you in trouble and have you’re tale between your legs?

  148. Kyooshtik April 2, 2013 at 5:19 pm #

    and spotted a raven haired beauty with long legs and a shapely figure. As it turned out this woman was a chum of my friend’s in high school.
    I don’t know what the hair, legs and shape of your friend’s friend have got to do with the price of tea in China unless, God forbid, this story is going to turn into a three-way carpet munch.

  149. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 5:25 pm #

    God forbid, this story is going to turn into a three-way carpet munch.
    Well, that made me laugh I must say. But if cheap tantalizing sexual thrills are what your seeking I’m sorry that I disappointed you on this point. I’ll try harder next time.

  150. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 5:57 pm #

    Don’t pay any attention to this rapist. Can you imagine the things he’s done to his poor wife? In fact, I don’t know if I’d label her a “poor wife.” She had a choice, and she chose to stay with this occidental observer because she wanted the money, which is a laugh if you think about it. It’s not even that much money, but that’s the way women are from that era. So long as they can go shopping, they’ll let some pig like this rape them day in and day out. Thank God for women’s liberation. Mrs. Q-Schmuck missed the boat. There’s so much she missed, and yet she’ll never know it. Life’s weird like that; so many realities playing out concurrently. Mrs. Q-Schmuck’s reality is a nightmare compared to the enlightened and effervescent life Angela Davis has led.

  151. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 6:16 pm #

    Yes, Angela is one of my heroines as well. Glad to hear you like her too. She really stood for things as opposed to Q’s generation. If my memory serves me as correct, and I have a mind like a steel trap, Q was born in 1941 which makes him a bit earlier than my generation, the baby boomers. He and his wife were known as the silent generation. I think of them as the silent farts…silent but deadly. Us baby boomers were anything but silent, protesting across campuses nationwide. If there was a building to occupy, we’d occupy it. A war to protest? We were out there protesting. Remember Kent State? We were there protesting Vietnam. Three guesses who was firing at us. Yep, you got that right, Q and his silent buddies. Cheers to Angela Davis. I raise my glass to toast this fine lady!

  152. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 6:17 pm #

    Incontrovertible evidence the female teachers discriminate against boys in grading. Until women are removed from teaching, send your sons to private schools or home school them.

  153. Kyooshtik April 2, 2013 at 6:33 pm #

    Incontrovertible evidence the female teachers discriminate against boys in grading.
    Your link is about the Chinese Yuan. Wut’s up wit dat?

  154. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 6:45 pm #

    I love Angela. Men are my first choice, but I’ll bump fuzzies with other women if they’re vibrant and beautiful. Angela is one such woman. I’d gladly strap one on and take her to new heights…heights a man could never help her achieve, especially milquetoast rapists like Q-Schmuck. I like to look my lovers in the face when they’re cumming and I’m cumming. Rapists like Q-Schmuck don’t like to look at the face; it’s too intimate and makes them feel vulnerable.
    I bet Q-Schmuck learned his rapist ways as a fraternity jerk at St. Joe’s. Think about all the women he forced into sex in the car after a night at the Palestra. They call it date rape today. What would Jack Ramsey say? St. Joe’s during that era was a Wonder Bread institution for privileged rapists. Q-Schmuck is exemplary of his alma mater. At least Villanova won a NCAA Championship.

  155. Julian C. Lee April 2, 2013 at 6:46 pm #

    Carolonius: “Once again, their is only one race, and that is the human race.
    Bor-ing. I prefer the more interesting world of races and peoples.
    Mexicans were here long before you were…
    How can there be such a thing as “Mexicans.” I thought we were all One Thing.
    Your thoughts are as fuzzy as a woman’s. Even though you are an African American male.

  156. rube-i-con April 2, 2013 at 7:04 pm #

    Hey Welles, the POlice would like you to stop by the station for questioning. ;o)
    yep i had enuf of this shitthole brazil, and am moving back to the US. the perps who raped the US girl are black/very brown typical sub-culture idiots you find everywhere here. they deserve to be simply killed.
    this country’s way fucked, there is NO public safety, do NOT come here to live, you will regret it.

  157. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 7:19 pm #

    Yes, the Jesuits are well known for their sexual perversity as well as turning a blind eye toward corruption and murder. One only need to see the new pope who was “elected” to recognize this. In Argentina he remained silent as thousands were slaughtered. These Catholic assholes have been looting and pillaging for years. And as for Nova, yeah, they won a championship in ’85. Didya know that the DuPont Pavilion in which they played was renamed after a gross scandal in the early ’90s when one of the DuPont family members was caught doing some pretty lewd things. Quick for the damage control, I believe Nova changed the name of their basketball dais. Got to hand it to those Catholics, Jesuit or Augustinian, they sure are adept at covering their tracks. Want proof? Ask any altar boy.

  158. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 7:22 pm #

    Here you go Juan. Even Captain Teague would be shocked by this.

  159. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 7:24 pm #

    Yep, I’d have gone down on Angela back in the ’70s, but now, not so much. I’m just not that into gray tuna! Even if it has some chocolate sauce! Give me a shaved black girl beaver any day. Now that’s what I call finger-lickin’ good! Hat tip to Asoka!

  160. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 7:25 pm #

    You’re in favor of Tribadism but you eschew Tribalism – for Whites that is. For everyone else it’s fine, or even great if it hurts White people.

  161. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 7:32 pm #

    Maybe you should tell us what life is like for one who has never had the pleasure of pleasuring a real woman, or man for that matter! And BTW, cornering little boys and pummeling them in the shower, Sandusky style, doesn’t count as homoeroticism. We’ll be awaiting your response.

  162. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 7:35 pm #

    The decency laws need to be brought back. You need to have you head and hands put in stocks where little children will mock and throw garbage at you.

  163. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 7:39 pm #

    That’s a lie. I haven’t practiced Tribadism since my late teens. It requires a healthy dose of vaginal mucus and I can’t produce those levels any longer. Ah, those were the days.

  164. rube-i-con April 2, 2013 at 7:41 pm #

    He came out and said he’d love to make me one, but margaritas were his specialty.
    So I said, “Well how about joining me in a margarita?”
    So he said, “Gee, do you think we’d both fit in one?”

    Wow, Brazilians speak such good English they say “gee” and can just slide right into English jokes that involve puns/plays on words.
    First, I live in this country and virtually no one here speaks a lick of English, much less can banter jokingly with you in our language.
    This whole ‘I’m an artist and interior decorator and a hot fukkable blonde and an artist’ bit is paper thin and embellished 80% by the tone of it.
    Very wannabee-sounding.
    Other than that I like some of the things you say.

  165. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 7:44 pm #

    Society has placed boys and men at a huge disadvantage due to placing sports and masculine bravado ahead of important things like gender studies and multiculturalism. Most of the men I’ve dated don’t know how to put together a simple meal or sew a button on a shirt. Forget about putting a hem on a pair of slacks or organizing a desk drawer. Boys are celebrated for how many heads they can crush during football practice. The result is they come out of school even more brain damaged than when they went in!

  166. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 7:44 pm #

    Other than that I like some of the things you say.
    Of course you do. Make sure you put the lotion back where it belongs when you’re done.

  167. rube-i-con April 2, 2013 at 7:53 pm #

    I love my life which allows me to explore my natural talents of writing and do some part time interior decorating. My job takes me to many parts of the states, including but not limited to Manhattan. Wall Street executives tend to be really self absorbed a-wholes, kinda like E, who thinks that most women are bimbos. Tells me a lot about why he still has a problem getting laid. Poor thing!
    My most recent gig was in Brazil working for an architect. He and his wife just built a home their in San Paolo and they were trying to create an Indian/Southwestern motif.

    LOL, “my natural talents OF writing…”
    LOL, “do some part time…” [how about ‘part-time’]
    LOL, “self absorbed a-wholes” [how about ‘self-absorbed’ & ‘a-holes’]
    LOL “…just built a home THEIR in SAN PAOLO…” [try THERE in SAO PAULO…]
    Your natural talents of writing sure shine through. Yep, a real artist…

  168. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 7:55 pm #

    First of all “Welles” they were an American couple living in Brazil. Second, you said NOTHING about my intentional misspelling of San Paulo, third, you gave yourself away by putting upper case letters in your post when we all know that the real “Welles” made it a point to never use upper case letters in his post. You almost had me going there, with your first poast! Although you and I know that rapist bastards are certainly not limited to brazil nor are they limited to a certain race. ask ‘q’…he’s a white rapist. or ask Janos who has been raped by both white and black males, which is why he is now a child rapist.

  169. lucky 13 April 2, 2013 at 8:19 pm #

    Africa? did Soros and Chinese [not together]
    buy a ‘Germany’ size area?
    12% of Equator, why not, since they have ruined their own environment!

  170. lucky 13 April 2, 2013 at 8:22 pm #

    The only thing worse than Carol is her X many.

  171. rube-i-con April 2, 2013 at 8:29 pm #

    Carol and the apeman’s pseudo-philosophical gibberish ruin this board.
    Peace for peaceniks

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  173. progress4conserving April 2, 2013 at 9:34 pm #

    “There is still power in the collective political willpower of the American People –
    Although that power is being deliberately diluted by immigration policy, and may soon be broken.
    I will now wait for a racially based attack from the pro-immigration CFN troll.”
    -p4c to JHK, Monday @ 10:50 p.m.
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    You talk about how Mexicans are displacing blacks, but the fact is that blacks are sick and tired of your brutal attempts to force them to work for free. You have to get over the fact that both groups are ready, willing, and able to kick your white asses.”
    -asokadequatio or one of the “carol”s,to p4c, exactly 16 hours and 40 minutes later-
    Right on schedule, the CFN racist express!!
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  174. progress4conserving April 2, 2013 at 9:37 pm #

    “Carol and the apeman’s pseudo-philosophical gibberish ruin this board.
    Peace for peaceniks”
    You’ve got that right, rube-i-con!
    This thread is nearly done for.
    Is that really you, welles?
    And are you really moving back to the States?

  175. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 10:04 pm #

    I AM Carol hear me roar! I shall not be ignored! You miserable white bastards will not succeed in silencing my voice. I defy you to take back this blog! You are all my minions and you will accept my authoritative voice so that you may direct your energies toward more positive directions! I AM CAROL!

  176. Carol Newquist April 2, 2013 at 10:27 pm #

    Another thing about Angela. She’s a stud, you must admit. She really knows how to buck the system, consistently jamming the signal. A lightweight she is not, and she doesn’t just skim the surface. She dives deep into the issues, deconstructing and reconstructing with the acumen of someone steeped in the philosophical tradition. Originality is her hallmark, never having to borrow or mimic the ideas of others.

  177. carolnewquist... April 2, 2013 at 10:42 pm #

    She is what is known as a trail blazer. Most whites cannot fathom the power she gathered and HELD while the white establishment withered and cowed in FEAR as she brought the ESTABLISHMENT to its KNEES in the ’60s and ’70s. They said at the time, “Who does this black bitch think she is to make such statements?” and “What right does this n_gger have to tell us what to do?” And this was after the lynchings and systematic murder of women and people of color. She held up her middle finger to white establishment and said “F_U! Mothers! Dare to strike me down NOW!” Yes, she drew the line in the sand for the white power structure…and the bitches are still trying to figure out what the f happened!!! PRICELESS!!!

  178. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2013 at 11:31 pm #

    If I was your supervisor, I’d have you fired. You are way too obvious and over the top. Asoka was a Master of subtlety compared to you. People actually believed he was real for years. No one believes you are anything but a shill.
    Angela Davis worked for the Deep Establishment or the New Establishment if you prefer. By herself, she would have been dealt with swiftly and permanently. To believe she did all these things is like believing the old saw about peasants with pitch forks – simply ludicrous.

  179. Kyooshtik April 2, 2013 at 11:46 pm #

    As to the repellent and insufferable Entity, there are now two. The original contains a space (after the first name) and the first and last names begin with upper case letters. The second contains no space and is all lower case letters. The second Entity seems to be employed as a super-smutty alter ego that the first Entity is less comfortable employing in its own right.
    Rube-I-Con is not Welles.

  180. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 12:20 am #

    Its name is Legion for it is many.

  181. IxNoMor April 3, 2013 at 12:57 am #

    “”architectural eyesore for this month?”
    Hehehe!!! 3 to choose *from*! [hic!]”
    Hahaha, 15th year *anniversary* of *Monthly Eyesores!* I perused them all tonite – your 3 *weren’t* there…

  182. Eleuthero5 April 3, 2013 at 12:58 am #

    Anybody that doubts that Carol Newquist is Asoka should see the prodigious posting volume of the past 24 hours. It’s a dead giveaway.

  183. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:05 am #

    Feminist Art is so ugly – and thus accurately represents Feminism.

  184. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:10 am #

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    Yeah, no doubt – called that a couple months (??) ago. The “..” ‘alter ego’ needs to reference the other *half* of those *MASTAH DEBATAH* files…

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  189. Eleuthero5 April 3, 2013 at 6:14 am #

    I’ve always used the “evil” word ONLY to describe Asoka. Evil is a rarely used word to describe a person but remember that in the Christian Bible and many fables, evil is evasive and wily … not just a plank upside the head.
    He’s not quite clever enough to pull off the various ruses he’s attempted like all the name changes, the “Carol Newquist” identity, and the DoD ruse. However, I don’t back off from the evil label because he uses these “shields” to argue behind like the coward that he is.
    His prose is also very BORING. In the last 24 hours, “Carol” and here lowercase equivalent has made DOZENS of posts and we know that only ONE CFN member is so bereft of a life that he’s got no other venue to bother people … this one. He’d really like to be clever enough to be evil because being the best at SOMETHING is his existential struggle.
    Sadly, he’s uncleverly evil. What a gigantic maroon this guy is.

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  191. xhalor April 3, 2013 at 7:41 am #

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    So paying someone minimum wage is the same thing as saying “Fuck you. I want to pay you less but, legally I can’t.”
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    One group of cunts just can’t seem to realise how dire mankind’s situation on this planet really is and keep searching for a political solution. Even luck won’t help this group of cunts now.
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    So I will resume my final quest of getting drunk during the day and watching baseball.

  192. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 8:53 am #

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    To be continued

  193. rube-i-con April 3, 2013 at 9:00 am #

    kyoo et al, yes i , rube-i-con, am welles, and i am really moving back to the states.
    i no longer have any rose-colored illusions about south america, in particular brazil. place is crawling with miscreants out to steal everything from you or get over on you in one way or another. corruption is so bad…. one-third of the population is addicted to crack. millions of folks live under underpasses or literally on a spot of concrete or grass at intersections.
    the meat’s phenomenal , the beer’s real good, but it don’t make up for anything. so i am calling it quits to an extent.
    nothing like good old yankee safety. hell, everyone here lives behind walls with electrified fences on top of the walls. major SUX, i say good riddance to bad rubbish.
    the latest raping in rio is laughable, these same thugs did this to at least five or six other folks, but the law ‘enforcement’ authorities didn’t do anything until they saw that a foreigner was involved, because it’s hurting their precious 2014 soccer world cup image among potential foreign suckers that might come here and spend money.
    my earnest advice to ANYONE thinking of visiting brazil: DO NOT COME

  194. ozone April 3, 2013 at 9:41 am #

    Other than a “visit” from the DoD Network at 8:59, all the other service providers seem fairly innocuous and wide-ranging in their worldly reach.
    So, to what purpose do we attribute the concerted ruination of the comments section that’s been going on for so long? (That’s not rhetorical; I’d really like to know what a few of the reasonable [reasoning] regulars think.)
    From looking at the referring links (where available) most are coming to read the weekly warning, not the comments section, so the object of driving commenters [and their responders] away serves what purpose, exactly?
    I tend to think it would be to keep real people from “organizing” or “interacting” in any real-life, non-ethereal way. (…And I certainly mean that in a “micro” way, rather than “macro”. Large coalitions are much easier to track by a state interested in doing so… like ours! ;o)
    You must understand that my opinion is informed by a distinct lack of trust of any current leaders’ motives, engendered by a lifetime of being witness to bald-faced horrors and cold deceits. Therefore, my opinion becomes suspect via a built-in bias, leaning heavily in the direction of cynical suspicion.
    So, I ask again: To what purpose is the suppression of true dialogue by real, concerned people?
    ***To follow this further down the rabbit-hole, Q, is that YOU??? I don’t think so; there are some usage and spelling anomalies that I just don’t see you making.

  195. ozone April 3, 2013 at 9:45 am #

    …”dialogue BETWEEN real (etc.)”
    Sorry for the mud.

  196. ozone April 3, 2013 at 10:01 am #

    “the meat’s phenomenal , the beer’s real good, but it don’t make up for anything. so i am calling it quits to an extent.” -supposedly welles
    LOL! Just how does one “call it quits, to an extent” me hearties? If there is one thing that has an abiding dualistic nature in this chaotic ol’ world, it’s the will to action. You either do it, or you don’t do it, there is no “to an extent”. You might well desire to be in two places at once, but it ain’t gonna happen outside of dreams.
    I’ve spent a little time in Rio, and I could have told anyone [of a reasonable bent] that it was a land of gated privilege. That’s not a good thing, BTW, and this country is headed there fast; take note “welles”. Be prepared to be one of the lower caste that is to be carefully watched for any extra-legal twitches.

  197. insufferable April 3, 2013 at 10:13 am #

    Dear KY
    You r seriously sick man. I hope you have health insurance. You are most probably getting paid minimum wage if you are working at all. Good luck panhandling on that corner you are sitting on.

  198. xhalor April 3, 2013 at 10:18 am #

    “…sock and shoe still in tack.”
    In tack?
    Don’t know who you are but that’s all I needed to see to let me know that you are not the poster formerly known as Q(schtick).
    I’m now convinced that the only thing that is real is The Matrix.

  199. ozone April 3, 2013 at 10:28 am #

    I’m beginning to share that conviction with you!! Shit, we must have taken the “red pill” by accident!
    BTW, what (of any import) is in Alexandria, Va, anyway? That’s where the majority of the DoD visits come from.

  200. xhalor April 3, 2013 at 10:29 am #

    “I AM CAROL!”
    You know the melody…
    I am Beaver
    Here me gnaw
    You Honky Bastards
    Kiss my paw
    And I’m taking back
    A blog I never ha-ad

  201. ozone April 3, 2013 at 10:35 am #

    I had seen that. Will those pages of the budget make it through your legislature intact, or will they be excised? Are your “lawmakers” as venal or as sound asleep as ours in the FUSA? Very revealing that they’re even considered, in any case.
    …And thanks for the link, so that others might share our delight in such chicanery! ;o)

  202. ozone April 3, 2013 at 10:48 am #

    Blackfoot Nation, get ready! You are soon to re-inherit a plundered continent of enfeebled, utterly failed assholes! (Bring skills, please.)

  203. ozone April 3, 2013 at 10:50 am #

    Haw! Good one, X.
    Gotta git… see yez ’round the square.

  204. ront April 3, 2013 at 10:59 am #

    Meher Baba
    If _Sadhana_ of Knowledge is to be fruitful, it must
    at each step be implemented by action. Everyday
    life has to be guided by discrimination and inspired
    by intuition.
    _Karma Yoga_, or the Path of Action, consists in
    acting upon the intuitions of the heart without
    hesitation. In _Sadhana_, what counts is practice,
    not theory. Practice based upon right knowledge is
    most fruitful, but even mistakes in practical action
    have valuable lessons to bring.
    Mere speculation, however, remains spiritually
    barren, even when flawless. Thus a person who is
    not very learned but sincerely takes the name of
    God and does his duties wholeheartedly may be
    much nearer to God than one who knows the
    metaphysics but does not allow his knowledge to
    change his life.
    In the spiritual life it is not necessary to have a
    complete map of the Path. On the contrary,
    insistence upon complete knowledge may hinder
    rather than help. The secrets of spiritual life are
    opened to those who venture, not to those who seek
    guarantees for every step.
    Fulfillment of the _Sadhana_ of _Karma Yoga_
    requires that action should spring from the
    perception of the Truth. Enlightened action does not
    bind because, not rooted in the ego, it is selfless.
    Selfishness represents ignorance, while
    selflessness is a reflection of the Truth; and the
    justification for the life of selfless service is to be
    found in the intrinsic worth of such a life, not in the
    advantages it brings.
    The paradox of selfless action is that it brings to the
    aspirant much more than could come from mere
    selfishness. Selfishness leads to a narrow life and
    confirms the false idea of a limited and separate
    existence, but selfless action contributes toward the
    dissipation of the illusion of separateness and
    proves to be the gateway to unlimited life. What one
    has lost and what one desires to have may never
    come; but if one parts with anything in the spirit of an
    offering to God, it has already come back. Such is
    the _Sadhana of Karma Yoga_.
    GOD TO MAN AND MAN TO GOD, pp 223-224. Ed.
    Charles Purdom.

  205. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 11:25 am #

    ***To follow this further down the rabbit-hole, Q, is that YOU??? I don’t think so; there are some usage and spelling anomalies that I just don’t see you making.
    No Oz, that was not me. The perp added a dot after my handle. One would have to be a close reader to notice. The “prose” is unquestionably that of The Entity.
    As to Rube-i-con who alleges he is Welles, I will say this: Rare is the person who will suddenly turn 180 degrees away from all they have long believed and expressed (i.e. Brazil as heaven on earth). It’s as unlikely as Vlad saying “ya know people, I’m beginning to have second thoughts about all that stuff I’ve said about the Jews. And ditto for all that eastern religion shaktipat… all hogwash and balderdash.”
    Insuff, don’t worry about me and min-wage employment. I’m comfortably retired since Feb ’06.

  206. lucky 13 April 3, 2013 at 11:27 am #

    Is Asoka posting under 4 names?
    carol 2
    K.[not to be confused with the real ‘K’]
    gees….give us a break you f–kin sociopath.

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  208. lucky 13 April 3, 2013 at 11:29 am #

    Do you read ‘Angry White Dude’?
    The chick from PP who openly advocates for
    Legal Infanticide?

  209. rube-i-con April 3, 2013 at 11:37 am #

    welles here again: this doomster blog blocked me as welles, ergo rube-i-con:
    second: “to an extent” means i’1l prolly live in both countries. i have houses in both.
    re 180 about face: once bitten twice shy. i really have come to other conclusions about this place.
    i h8 certain things about the US, but shit with roses is better than just shit.
    peace peaceniks

  210. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 12:11 pm #

    My dear sir, in tack is perfectly appropriate. Intact would not be. In tack means a horse with its bridle and saddle. In the spirit of one of its meanings, I extended the sentiment to humans to mean a human foot with sock and shoe.
    Get outside the box for once in your life. You’re too limited in your thinking and reasoning. This is what blind obedience to ambiguous rules will do you.

  211. Bustin Jay April 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm #

    Welles, here’s what you’re coming back to:
    1. Every arm of the congressional, senatorial, and (especially) media apparatus working hard to give away citizenship to any Tom, Dick, or Harry who and run, walk, or swim into the US…. a bold-faced giveaway to the ongoing disaster that is the United States.
    A recent summation of the argument for illegal immigration is that, without farm workers, all the processors, distributors, packers, retailers, etc would be screwed, and higher food prices would commence.
    Heres the reality:
    We destructively terraform millions of acres of alluvial soil to produce commodity substances which are turned by processors into Cheerios, Snapple, disposable diapers, and Ethanol. We export tons of this junk to other countries where they take out loans to buy this junkfood that we then sell to their citizens.
    Domestically, 44 million (plus) people are getting direct food subsidies. They go to the market and buy the products that the processors produce- not the raw foods, usually. A half-hour spent at the local supermarket will convince you that people on unemployment, with clear health issues (like obesity), didn’t get the healthy eating memo and spend the subsidy on the “middle-aisle” crap, like Peanut butter spike with hydrogenated Palm oil. (the destruction of ecology in some other part of the world which grows the palm trees). They hydrogenated part destroys the subsidized consumer’s body. The subsidized consumer then suffers catastrophic or chronic health issues which pushes them onto the holy grail of subsidies, “Disability”.
    This is a conveyor belt that goes one way. A depressing crapscape’s negative influence, the sense of hopelessness, the promise of diversion in video games and reality TV, coupled with the last legal drugs (sugar and fat) pretty much guarantee that there is no way they are getting out of that hole.
    No jobs, No sustainability, projecting the exorbitant costs of Mega-agriculture outside the borders, accelerating disability, chronic health problems, it goes on and on.
    Easter: The local Slaveway, the chocolate and hydrogenated fat wrapped in psychedelic purple and gold, featuring cartoon characters, pack a display case standing about chest height to the floor: an obvious orientation, if you want to sell candy to children, or induce children to nag adults. And there was no holding back. Subsidized tax dollars being spent to make children fat and hobble them before they even have a chance to fight back.
    Now, pro-amnesty folks want us to believe as part of their platform that floating this whole enterprise is in America’s best interests. It is not. Illegal labor is the enterprise which keeps this whole thing going all the way through the chain.
    The argument is, we “need” this cheap labor, or the Easter Bunny nuclear bomb won’t be there to get dropped on the heads of children. We “need” cheap labor so that the government can continue to price-fix for Big Ag, and subsidize the entire value chain.
    In the meantime we are down to only 1% of the population (assuming legal) farming in America. The average yearly income is a paltry $19K/yr. Land speculators driven by the profit motivation a fixed market with government insurance have moved in quadrupling prices (along with natural gas fracking plays at the expense of future generation’s well water.)

  212. Eleuthero5 April 3, 2013 at 12:51 pm #

    Very interesting post about Brazil. Of course, Stateside liberals were getting the propaganda that Lula was so good for the country and poor people. He was taking from the rich and giving to the poor etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.
    Of course, when we hear that he liked Hugo Chavez it should have aroused suspicions. Stateside ideologues never do seem to understand the idea that “if it looks too good to be true, it is”.

  213. Bustin Jay April 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm #

    I’ve got this “neighborhood” nearby. Actually, two disconnected cul-de-sacs featuring “luxury” style homes built in the last 5 years. Someone is keeping the lights on, but no one’s home. Occupancy is around 20%. The amount of asphalt laid down is impressive. A 150 foot turning radius asphalt lagoon anchored by a multiple security mailbox where previously stood something like 40 80 year old trees.
    These houses are baffling. Fountains gurgle in the faux English garden landscapes. American flags flap uselessly in rain or shine, illuminated by halogen spotlights. The average number of rooms per house, estimated from the outside, is about 10. The facades feature all the usual McMansion bullcrap like fake columns. They have convoluted faces, with the irregular appearance of features copied and pasted here and there, giving not so much an illusion of originality, but an overall dishonesty.
    The neighborhoods are anchored by large decorative signs which scream “Status” and “Exclusivity”. and most of these mansions have been empty for years. Just beyond in the darkness a million frogs scream in unison, as if pissed that their homes were bulldozed for nothing.

  214. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 12:59 pm #

    I have never heard anyone arguing for immigration, legal or otherwise. I do hear many arguing against it, and those many are of a certain persuasion, so your argument is a strawman, and you’ve set it up this way to make unwitting readers believe this is a for-or-against matter, when it’s not. Immigration is not the root of the world’s troubles. It’s a symptom, and treating symptoms doesn’t cure the disease.
    Quit being such a coward and go after the root. Nah, you won’t do that because you work for the root of the problem, don’t you scumbag? Take a hike you worthless coward. You’re a Golden Dawn U.S. annex member in disguise. Stormfront beckons you, loser.

  215. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:01 pm #

    Welcome to the Revolution. We are going to have to fight to win our Freedom – or at least be ready to. And much of America is gone, certainly most of the Southwest. It’s Aztec Territory now. Their Death Religion is coming back thru Catholicism. Their favorite God is called Santa Muerta – a Skeleton dressed up in nun’s garb.
    One drug lord cut off his competetitor’s face and stiched it onto a soccer ball. I wonder if they did this before or after his demise? And it’s getting colder. Brazil North is going to be a Cold Hell.

  216. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:05 pm #

    Let’s face it Zone: anyplace that has alot of Blacks and Browns aint gonna be much good. The good part of Brazil is in the South, where Whites predominate. Somehow Welles never allowed himself to be cognizant of this fact. It’s not coincidence – it’s the nature of the people who determine the character of a place. And Whites at their best create prosperity and freedom. Blacks, poverty and terror.

  217. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 1:05 pm #

    One drug lord cut off his competetitor’s face and stiched it onto a soccer ball.
    A stich in time saves nine.
    Legalize drugs, and we can put these sadistic seamstresses on unemployment.

  218. Eleuthero5 April 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm #

    Newest economic data? The “jobs” being created now average an astounding $25K salary. Still think Obama is your pal?
    It’s bread and circuses my friend and you’d better watch out because they’re coming for that “bread”.

  219. Julian C. Lee April 3, 2013 at 1:08 pm #

    “One drug lord cut off his competetitor’s face and stiched it onto a soccer ball.
    Please, please. Your grandfathers probably did that every Saturday after raping blacks on Fridays. People are all the same. There’s only one humun race.

  220. Eleuthero5 April 3, 2013 at 1:10 pm #

    Stormfront “beckons” Bustin Jay. So now you have liberals joining Stormfront do you “Carol”? “Carol” … the cat’s out of the bag. You’re Asoka. You’re just part of his multiple personality disorder. Go away.

  221. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:11 pm #

    Yeah, but dead Gurus can’t kick ass. Shouldn’t you be seeking one of Five Living Perfect Masters? You must find Baba in his form as a Living Stream of Grace.
    Found a book by a Baba Lover at a library sale, “How to Choose a Guru” by a Chap named Rick Chapman.

  222. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 1:14 pm #

    Based on the track record of lies deposited here by you and your friends on a daily basis, I think I will look into Brazil as a possible destination. Usually the opposite of what you all say is true, and I’m betting this is no different. Plus, I’ve always wanted to give Guinea Worm a try. There’s no better time than the present. Brazil, here I come. I can’t wait for Carnival and all the free sex. WooHoo!!

  223. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:18 pm #

    Well it’s only logical if you believe in partial birth abortion. Professor Peter Kreeft of Boston College spent an entire semester trying to convince two Feminist Students of this fact. At the end of the semester they conceded and then announced that they believed in infanticide.
    I love the way Feminists say that if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament. This projects onto the men the Fact that abortion is already the sacrament of their human sacrafice religion. And what do they worship? Themselves. They are far, far, far too important to ever suffer inconvenience. I mean abstaining from sex, using birth control, or giving the baby up for adoption aren’t enough: they demand the right to kill.

  224. ozone April 3, 2013 at 1:20 pm #

    False Kyoo [un]person:
    Your assertion that damn-near everything is plastic, mutable and elastic is unmitigated bullshit.
    In order to have a language that has meaning (at least in what might be considered a “reasonable time frame”), we have to make firm agreements as to what a word’s actual definition will be.
    This lazy-minded mis-usage of yours is a hallmark of bullshitters, con-men, and those who pretend to be beyond any retribution for being so.
    Your actions as a classic troll underscore your lack of legitimacy, reliability or wisdom. (Plus, you don’t read with any real comprehension, or you wouldn’t make such 3rd grade gaffes and then try and cover with transparent excuses; MORE emotionally immature behavior. Go read something “carol” and put down the social-networking devices and turn off the fucking teevee; they’re making you dumber by the day.)
    You serve those whose existence is based on nothing but a pack of lies, and you are nothing but a liar. Remember that, when trust will be the ultimate requirement and deceit may very well cost the ultimate price (and quite casually, at that). In every era, a time of trial comes. You will obviously fail these testings; your job has no room for the genuine and will no longer be required in the very near future.
    (I wish you no luck at all; may you die in a ditch.)

  225. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:21 pm #

    You too E. People want Western Civilization without Whites. Is that logical? It’s like wanting the scent without the flower that produces it.

  226. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 1:23 pm #

    Go tend to your pot plants you armchair sophist. You have no say in such matters. Your opinion means nothing. Yes, you’re free to offer it, just as you’re free to defecate, but that doesn’t mean you have to do it in public. Take it to the toilet where it belongs, fascist stoner moron.

  227. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:25 pm #

    Now change a word or too and see what you get:
    In order to have a Nation that has any meaning, one has to define what a Nation is and who is a citizen. These two words can’t mean just anything. America is a Nation of Western Civilization and thus must consist of White Citizens.

  228. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:27 pm #

    Et tu Julian? Betrayest thou me? Or is that jot I c a dot or a tittle?

  229. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 1:29 pm #

    Why is it necessary to have a nation, let alone a nation with meaning? You start with nation as a given. I’m not convinced it is. Convince me.

  230. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 1:38 pm #

    America is a Nation of Western Civilization
    you’re living in the past again, where you are most of the time. Meanwhile, the world moves along without you as you fitfully scream and holler in its wake. All you are is dust in its wind.

  231. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    the sacrament of their human sacrafice religion.
    How quickly we forget… it’s sacrifice.

  232. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:57 pm #

    I thought you said it was sacrAfice. How do I know you’re not Carol trying to trick me?
    Have you thought anymore about what I said? About Whites being the essence of Western Civilization? Or did you forget?
    I just thought of a mneumonic to remeber the i if in fact you are not Carol and that is in fact the way to spell it. The i is Christ on the Rood.
    Btw, why does the tax code connect one’s losses in the stock market with one’s W2?

  233. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

    So now it just a whole lot of nuthin – just a shit hole. I’d rather go back, thanks. Even if it means losing alot of territory.

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  236. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 2:04 pm #

    The only place you’re going back is in your mind. Obama said “we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards.” What he says goes. You’re either with him, or against him. Which is it?

  237. ozone April 3, 2013 at 2:15 pm #

    Well now.
    Thereby do you admit to being a fraud as well as an identity thief.
    You really don’t understand the peril in which you place your future, do you? Not too bright.
    As for your sparring partner, JS, we’ll start supposing he has a bit of verifiable “reality” when he gets his race war on. (I do believe we’ll hear about it, somehow.) Until then, you might advise him that he’s really in the wrong place to recruit followers (Mr. Lee excepted) or fish for dumb-as-dirt, white-power targets for the now-internalized Department of Defending the Oligarchs.
    Call me anything you like, but I don’t work for the continuation of the poisonous status quo.
    Is it “a living”, or are you just an irredeemable asshole? (Hint: There actually is a difference.)

  238. xhalor April 3, 2013 at 2:21 pm #

    “In the spirit of one of its meanings,…”
    A-Ha! I knew it. The real Q (if there EVER was such a thing) would have found it impossible to overcome his compulsion to correct the homophone “Here” in my re-working of the Helen Reddy song.
    You just couldn’t see the hook in the worm, huh…
    Perhaps a fish and not a beaver.
    Frankly, with a blindfold on I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
    Unless, of course, I got to feel the fishy.

  239. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 2:24 pm #

    Is this the long awaited “correction?” DOW down more than a hundred and the NAS and S&P even worse %wise.
    I have $10K worth of hedge in place which partially mitigates the carnage elsewhere in my portfolio. To be specific, TZA and VXX which go up as the market goes down. But don’t take that as a recommendation; they’re highly leveraged and it’s like giving a five year old cherry bombs and a zippo and telling him to go play in the backyard.

  240. ozone April 3, 2013 at 2:29 pm #

    …At 1:53pm, JHK’s blog gets a peek from…
    Fbi Criminal Justice Information Systems
    Perhaps I’m not supposed to point that out.
    “Fear is the mind-killer”.

  241. ozone April 3, 2013 at 2:33 pm #

    “…it’s like giving a five year old cherry bombs and a zippo and telling him to go play in the backyard.” -Q.
    Isn’t that the epitome of “good, wholesome, family fun”? ;o)
    (Ps. Sorry ’bout the loss, anyway. Ya can’t trust ’em to play the game straight, I tells ya!)

  242. Rhino April 3, 2013 at 2:36 pm #

    It could happen, like the demise of the UK Pound as the world currency and its replacement by the US dollar. There are things though that the USD had going for it, like the existence of a very large English speaking world in the former but very large British Empire and as a consequence the existence of English as the world’s lingua franca. Don’t forget that the USA is part of that former British Empire. So it was relatively easy for the USD to gain wide acceptance in large parts of that anglosphere and the wider world.
    But the Chinese have a very long way to go in this regard. Outside of China Mandarin is not widely spoken. Nothing like English. And the Latin alphabet for that matter. So, in cultural terms, there is the familiarity/comfort factor. While becoming more powerful the Chinese still have massive problems like a billion of their citizens living in subsaharan conditions. Still, they are making strides. I wonder how the Chinese see the prospect of convertability of their currency and its possible usurping of the USD. I’m sure it’s been talked about.

  243. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 2:43 pm #

    This one’s even more interesting:
    Centre For Addiction And Mental Health ( 14 returning visits
    Canada Flag Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    We’re all Guinea Pigs. Not to be confused with Guinea Worms. Or else, they’re giving the inmates surfing privileges at this fine institution, and the majority of you are sitting down at their terminals as we speak/type. I’m betting it’s the ladder (just for you, Q).

  244. Rhino April 3, 2013 at 2:43 pm #

    To what purpose can we attribute the concerted ruination of the comments section? I can’t blame anyone for seeing a malicious hand in this “ruination”. Because “ruination” is what it is.
    I thought that it couldn’t get worse than reams of Assoka’s toxic crap. But with the arrival of the repellent “Carol” and his pornographic commentary it just got worse. Is Carol the same person as Assoka? Maybe. K-Dog’s outing of Assoka, Assoka’s apparent origin at DoD, the subsequent disappearance as “Assoka” and the immediate surfacing of “Carol” were all very interesting.
    So back to the malicious hand. What do we talk about week in and week out? The end of the present order, the very likely calamitious descent into new lower energy intensive ways of life, the pervasive corruption and criminality in the 1% of our respective societies.
    The technological miracle of the internet enables us to communicate with one another. And this communication is what I would fear if I were one of the 1%. But most of the 1% are not all that bright, they have one track minds: money and power, more money, more power.
    To the 1%, nothing can be allowed to get in the way of accumulation of money and power and by “nothing” I mean people like us. Because “nothing” is what we are to them. Nothings and nobodies. Their contempt knows no bounds.
    So what do the 1% fear? Most of them don’t fear anything, especially people like us, because most of the 1% aren’t smart enough. They don’t have the imagination, the wisdom, the breadth of knowledge especially of past history. They see themselves as ambitious, impatient men of action. In terms of their intellectual repertoire most of the 1% are limited to running businesses or the various scams that you see in banking or in Wall Street securities firms.
    But some of them ARE bright enough. They are subtle, far-sighted, steeped in culture and history. They see the value of knowledge that most of their peers dismiss as boring, irrelevant, at best the purview of batty college professors or, at worst, a distraction from making money. And some of their advisors and lackeys, while not having the personal attributes (ie ruthlessness/focus/sociopathy/psychopathy) that would enable them to be in the same class as their masters, do have the wit to conjure in their imagination some dire outcomes. So while they may not see a path out of the descent they may see disaster looming for them and their masters in the event of a popular uprising. They know what happened to the French and Russian royals. Even if most of their masters scoff, the lackey doesn’t put it beyond the realm of possibility.
    And so, while the dispruption of sites like this may not use a lot of resources in the defence of the status and positions of the 1%, it may use some. The surveillance technology to watch what we say exists, the formal governmental or non governmental organizations dedicated to to reading what we say and disrupting the conversation (or worse) may also exist.
    And so we had a prolific commenter like Assoka and his ceaseless defence of governmental policy benefitting the 1% like unrestricted immigration, like the past and present Fed policy of counterfeiting currency and interest rate manipulation. And now there’s the abrasive, pointlessly insulting and verbally diarrhetic “Carol” that makes you want to give up on this site altogether. Which may be the point of Carol’s being here in the first place.
    So what to do? For my part, I’m neither reading nor responding to “Carol”. It may be just a small thing but if enough of us shun this disruptor the incessant posts may stop. No point disrupting if the disrupting doesn’t disrupt.
    And vigilance. As Andy Grove said, and he’s right, only the paranoid survive.

  245. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 2:53 pm #

    Your surfing privileges are almost up, then it will be time for you to take your medication and go back to your room. Don’t make them put you in restraints again. They don’t like to do it if they don’t have to.
    One more “and so” would have made that diatribe perfect. As it stands, it’s so-so.

  246. rube-i-con April 3, 2013 at 3:02 pm #

    The good part of Brazil is in the South, where Whites predominate.
    Yes this is ‘very’ true. Far as I can tell it’s a place without much electric fencing to keep the criminals out. Just ‘happens’ to be massively dominated by European stock?
    Re other comments on the abysmal state of people’s health/massive takeover by Big Ag in the US, etc. …yep true enough, but I plan on pursuing my own intents and leave the dolts to themselves.
    There’s a nice intelligent cadre of pholks in the US, folks like Trippticket, that are forging ahead with great enviro-permaculture living. Here, hell…they throw garbage everywhere, and it’s a reflection of them. lotsa great people you meet, but just a pathetic nation in too many respects.
    when you don’t have the basic building blocks of a decent society – public safety, healthcare, sanitation, eduation – you’re a 3rd worlder.
    plus, i may just up and go to another place, e.g. Singapore. States first up to bat tho’.
    peace peaceniks

  247. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 3:03 pm #

    You really don’t understand the peril in which you place your future, do you? Not too bright.
    Your entire poast is paranoiac and unintelligible, but I’m particularly concerned with the implication of this statement. Would you be so kind as to clarify and/or elaborate. You, like Janos, are rarely at a loss for words, even when you make them up, so I’m sure you won’t be afraid to step up to the plate and tell us what this statement really means.

  248. xhalor April 3, 2013 at 3:14 pm #

    “But some of them ARE bright enough.”
    Which is why the way has been paved for Monsanto to weaken and poison us. We just gobble it up.
    gobble gobble

  249. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 3:34 pm #

    Viva la Reconquista! There are no borders when you have an open heart. There are no limits to those whom you can love. Rich multiculturalism is what makes living unique.
    Money (fiat wealth) is not what makes us happy but rich human interpersonal relations. We are entering a new phase in human existence were love knows no boundaries and open hearts coexist with open minds. Clean the cobwebs from your minds and allow love to enter.

  250. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 3:35 pm #

    Every night around dinner time we watch Jeopardy (if my wife gets one right she squeals with glee and I say “you saw this when it ran an hour ago, didn’t you?”)
    Anyhoo… I observe that it’s extremely difficult to be a Jeh-Par-Dee winner without knowing a lot about English history, Shakespere, and such. There’s always something about King Lear’s daughters – Gonorrhea and the other two – or the head of which wife Henry the 8th lopped off first. I know next to nothing in this area.
    So, I was perusing the extensive offerings of audio books on LibriVox.org (reference my comment to Buck a week ago) and spotted the History of England from the Invasion of Julius Caesar to the Revolution of 1688 by David Hume. I listened for several hours. Terrific. I never realized Rome controlled Britain for nearly 400 years.
    But here’s my point. Asoka would always argue that I was wrong Wrong WRONG when I quoted the Bible saying “there will always be wars and rumors of wars.” Read (or listen to) English history. It is an endless tale of war, treachery, murder and mayhem and no different across the expanse of Europe to Rome and beyond. One was lucky not to have his eyes “put out” by a brother or cousin.
    Anyone who thinks the white man’s taking of America from its native population or the southwest from “Mexicans” is somehow an injustice should read English history for perspective on the meaninglessness of the term injustice.
    Note: My spell checker is on the fritz.

  251. Mrs. Soake April 3, 2013 at 3:39 pm #

    You’re talking to yourself again, adetwatsio.

  252. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 4:02 pm #

    Yes, the Jesuits are well known for their sexual perversity as well as turning a blind eye toward corruption and murder.
    Hey Entity, your three-dot sock-puppet has used the wrong word. Perversity and perversion have quite different meanings. Shape up for Christ’s sake.

  253. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 4:09 pm #

    I think this month’s architectural eye sore is da bomb! Can’t believe they built that monsterosity in San Francisco. Heretofor such a beautiful city. I remember the last time I visited there and saw the Golden Gate Bridge gleaming in the sun. It looked like suspended taught threads of gold. There outa be a law for this stuff! Dios Mio!

  254. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 4:18 pm #

    Talk to your own sockpuppet before you talk about mine. It made the mistake of inappropriately using “in tack,” and its defense was lightweight and surface-skimming.
    I think you created your sockpuppet so you could naughtily break the grammar rules like a child absconding candy he/she is not supposed to have, and hiding behind the couch to eat it.
    What other naughty things does Q-Schmuck do, one wonders? On second thought, maybe we don’t want to go there. It could be gruesome.
    Your story about Jeopardy would have been less boring if you had added that you and Mrs. Schmuck watched it in the nude on your plastic-covered sofa.

  255. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 4:24 pm #

    Well, I just got back from the credit union to cash my Federal income tax refund for $2,703. I was feeling a little flush when all the sudden smoke started coming out the front of the hood. Took it to the shop and my mechanic told me I’d blown a head gasket and the bill was going to be over $1,000. And this for a 2002 Dodge Ram truck (light green – my favorate color). Oh well, so much for feeling flush. I’m about $2,000 delinquent on my rent from last month and I was counting on that truck to help move my crap out of my apartment. Such is my life (sigh)!

  256. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 4:30 pm #

    I got a bad visual picturing the two of them steaming up the plastic slipcovers with their flabby naked bodies…and bums…yuck! And yes, he needs to stop being so judgemental about people. I guess people tend to get cranky and miserable when they get old. Sucks being him I guess.
    Carol… (home of the three dots)

  257. ront April 3, 2013 at 4:31 pm #

    Yeah, but dead Gurus can’t kick ass. Shouldn’t you be seeking one of Five Living Perfect Masters?
    The Avatar and the Perfect Masters are not looking to kick ass as they are annihilating ego-mind.
    You must find Baba in his form as a Living Stream of Grace.
    You are perceptive, Janos.
    Found a book by a Baba Lover at a library sale, “How to Choose a Guru” by a Chap named Rick Chapman.
    I recently attended a Rick’s charming 70th birthday celebration.

  258. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 4:53 pm #

    so you could naughtily break the grammar rules like a child absconding candy he/she is not supposed to have
    Your knowledge and use of vocabulary is a mile wide and a sixteenth of an inch deep. You seem to believe absconding means taking or stealing but it means “Leaving hurriedly and secretly, typically to avoid detection or arrest.” If you had said absconding with your sentence would have been correct but… well… you just don’t know this.

  259. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 5:14 pm #

    Well, I just got back from the credit union to cash my Federal income tax refund for $2,703.
    This shows your ignorance in two ways:
    . You could have saved the time and money of traveling to the CU by arranging for direct deposit, not to mention getting your money weeks earlier. You prepared your own returns electronically I assume?
    . Because of poor planning you effectively made an interest free loan to Uncle Sam for $2,703. Accounting for both State and Federal, I owed a net $19.
    How did you earn the money refunded to you? We already know it couldn’t have been book residuals.

  260. ozone April 3, 2013 at 5:35 pm #

    And thus my admonition for It to commence reading more and tweeting (and posting) less.
    (Also, it’s TAUT that indicates something under tension, not taught, soakie-boy. I thought they teached that thar early in eddication places. Or wuz you busy trine to get into th’ militry insted of pain attenshun?)

  261. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 5:37 pm #

    I have to pay income tax on alimony I receive, which is why I only work part-time (and under the table). I figure, why bust my ass at a nine to five when my ex can support me, as he’s done for the past 3 years, in the style I’ve become accustomed to. Of course I’m no longer able to pay my $2k a month rent on my apartment, so now I’m looking for something a tad cheaper. I’d love to have a new car or truck to replace my beater, but he’d find out and probably try to cut or worse, end my alimony payments. How do you suppose I can afford to while away my hours here on Jim’s site? Stupid men!

  262. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 5:50 pm #

    I guess people tend to get cranky and miserable when they get old.
    No, it’s got nothing to do with age. It’s people like you that have made me cranky and miserable since the day I was born.

  263. xhalor April 3, 2013 at 5:56 pm #

    Here’s an idea.
    Let’s talk about a REAL clusterfuck.

  264. xhalor April 3, 2013 at 5:58 pm #

    Whose your Bail Out Baby?
    Whose your Bail Out Baby….

  265. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 6:01 pm #

    I’m glad I’m able to contribute to that. Thanks you’ve made my day…still kind of sucks that my truck is out of commission though. Plus, my landlord wants my ass out of this apartment in three weeks. Mamma needs a new place to crash. Don’t want to go thru another eviction process thanks very much.

  266. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm #

    I have to pay income tax on alimony I receive
    How precious, and I’m not the least surprised. Your ex knows it’s worth every cent he, she, or it is paying. Which spouse was this one, 2nd or 3rd?

  267. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 6:10 pm #

    How do you suppose I can afford to while away my hours here on Jim’s site?
    It’s wile. To pass (time) agreeably.

  268. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 6:17 pm #

    Well, it’s not like I’m getting a kings ransom or anything. I only get around $35k/year – hence the need for my p/t work in interior design. Next month I travel to High Point for the furniture market – which Thomasville Furniture will be picking up the tab for my air and hotel. Needless to say I have to report my earnings for them which sucks. But during market they usually feed us and ply us with free drinks so I won’t have to pay for that.

  269. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 6:20 pm #

    Oh, and SECOND husband. First one was a real loser which is why I dumped his ass. And totally NOT looking for #3 because if I do, the payments STOP!

  270. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 7:20 pm #

    It’s people like you that have made me cranky….
    It should be who, not that.

    Consistent use of who and that will help make your writing clear and precise. If you still have questions regarding the proper use of these terms after reviewing the examples above, feel free to leave a comment.

    Just some friendly advice from your favorite sockpuppet. Please make sure to clean the bodily fluids off the plastic-covered sofa before retiring to the man cave tonight for your daily fart-fest. If not, it leaves a nasty indelible film.

  271. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 7:24 pm #

    Let me be the first to welcome you! Our new game is called: “Take Back This Frickin’ Blog”! As you probably know, the first order of business we have is to straighten out these prejudiced, white, old MF’ers! Thanks for all you do in this regard. NOW LET’S PLAY!!!
    I’M CAROL!!!!DAMMIT!!!

  272. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 7:31 pm #

    Your husbands were idiots, unlike me. You don’t see me paying alimony, do you? It’s simple, really. Fluoride. They don’t put enough in the tap water to make too much of a difference, so I have added just the right amount to my wife’s coffee every day. It works like a charm. She’s docile, servile and compliant. And best of all, no alimony. Blind loyalty. No fancy operations like in The Stepford Wives. Fluoride’s the way to go, and it’s economical. Why do you think the Germans used it so effectively? It makes our jobs as husbands easy. We can fart and belch and rape without a peep from the lesser gender. We’re kings of our castles, and it’s all because we’ve discovered the immense potential of fluoride. Life is good. Fluoride is good. Get some today and set yourself free.

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  274. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 7:45 pm #

    Urinal care by means of some urinal maintainer is mostly a major work that ought to be researched in order to have a very nourishing not to mention sparkling restroom environments prevailing in your own home or maybe with workplace.
    This is an example of a wonderfully constructed sentence. For starters no commas. I don’t like commas so when I see prose without them regardless of the creative content I automatically like it. Also no superfluous use of the filler word “that.” And don’t let the word “nourishing” in this sentence throw you off. This person is thinking ahead to post collapse when we’ll all be drinking our own urine for nutritional purposes. I commend you sir/madam. You put the Entity to shame with your excellent grammar and stellar prose. Thank you for your intellectually nutritious gift. Come again if you find the time. Your kind are always welcome here. If you bring some friends perhaps we can take this blog back.

  275. rube-i-con April 3, 2013 at 7:56 pm #

    How do you suppose I can afford to while away my hours here on Jim’s site? Stupid men!
    This attitude towards men is why they grow to h8 women. It’s this attitude that drives them to go insane or kill.

    Women don’t even like women. How’s that for substantiation of this antipathy towards the senseless sex?
    If they didn’t have certain physical attributes, men wouldn’t give a hoot. The best thing a man can ever do is learn not to need a woman. They sense this weakness, despise men for it and pounce like the hellish beasts of judgments they know themselves to be.
    peace peaceniks

  276. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 8:09 pm #

    Exactly. This is why I have fantasized about men my entire life since the day I was born. It’s what makes me cranky. I don’t really like women. I like men and I want to have sex with them and marry them but our culture won’t allow it so I have to settle for chronic yeast infections and sugar cookies. I hate sugar cookies. I want pork rinds, Budweiser and huge hairy testicles dangling in my face not Yoplait, chocolate-covered strawberries and some perfumed and powdered come-hither vagina.

  277. Kyooshtik April 3, 2013 at 8:12 pm #

    which Thomasville Furniture will be picking up the tab for my air and hotel.
    for which Thomasville Furniture will be picking up my air and hotel tab.
    Needless to say I have to report my earnings for them
    from them
    But during market they usually feed us and ply us with free drinks so I won’t have to pay for that.
    usually, indeed. At least that has been their practice for lo these many years. Cut me a friggin break.
    ply us = 2 cosmopolitans = a blow job? Would that be about right?

  278. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 8:17 pm #

    That’s what I was thinking; the same thing we would do for Mot. We gave him better head than his nasty wife ever could and he knew it. It’s how we made it to retirement and it was worth every slurp.

  279. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 8:23 pm #

    We offer our snatch which is payment enough. My mom always told me that I was sitting on what she called “my little money maker”. Well, “little” was right in that both husband I & II had small dicks and big f’n mouths. (white, of course :D) And also little cause $35k a year isn’t shit, considering he now makes about 380k a year! Anyways, I’m into Puerto Ricans and blacks now. I don’t have a current boyfriend, cause you’re probably right, I’m a major bitch. Still like me some thick, long, black rod tho. I fantasize about Asoka.

  280. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 8:23 pm #

    Cut me a friggin break.
    Wait a minute. This sockpuppetry is confusing me. I thought I knew myself, but maybe I don’t. I cannot recollect ever using the word “friggin.” It doesn’t make sense. That word was not part of my generational vocabulary. Where the hell did it come from? Are you an imposter? You’re not me. I wouldn’t use that word. I was born in 1941. My generation didn’t say “friggin.” What in tarnation is going on here? I want some answers.

  281. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 8:26 pm #

    Cut me a friggin break.
    Wait a minute. This sockpuppetry is confusing me. I thought I knew myself, but maybe I don’t. I cannot recollect ever using the word “friggin.” It doesn’t make sense. That word was not part of my generational vocabulary. Where the hell did it come from? Are you an imposter? You’re not me. I wouldn’t use that word. I was born in 1941. My generation didn’t say “friggin.” What in tarnation is going on here? I want some answers.

  282. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 8:28 pm #

    I know. I prefer men too. Not to say I haven’t buried my face, tongue, and mouth in many a bearded clam. I guess you could say I enjoy a lap at the flap as much as anyone. That doesn’t make me gay, though…or does it?

  283. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 8:34 pm #

    That doesn’t make me gay, though…or does it?
    Not at all. Gay is a state of mind, not a physical act. I’m gay because of my state of mind, not because I’ve never engaged in a homosexual act. You on the other hand have engaged in the act (many times over apparently – good for you), but in your mind you’re heterosexual and prefer men so you’re most assuredly not gay.

  284. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 8:37 pm #

    I was born in 1941. My generation didn’t say “friggin.” What in tarnation is going on here? I want some answers.
    Um, I think you meant to say, “What intarnation is going on here?”
    Intarnation in this case the word is meaning the physical representation of something that was heretofor an idea, memory, or thought.
    Try to get this right! And just because you were born in 1941 doesn’t give you the right to be STUPID! Okay, okay, you live and grew up in Jersey, so, yeah, I guess it makes scents that you’re stupid.

  285. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 8:43 pm #

    And let me say that there is NOTHING wrong with being gay. EXCEPT for the fact that you just double posted back there, which I wasn’t gonna bring up except you said your somewhat gay (I think) and you people seem to double poast a lot. SO FRIGGIN STOP IT!!

  286. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 8:48 pm #

    which I wasn’t gonna bring up except you said your somewhat gay
    I wouldn’t be Kyooshtik if I didn’t mention it’s you’re, not your.
    I didn’t say “somewhat gay.” I implied I’m as gay as Liberace. That’s not “somewhat.”

  287. Carol Newquist April 3, 2013 at 8:55 pm #

    Your right. My mistake. It’s “what intarnation.” I hate women, especially bitches like you who are always correcting people’s grammar and ridiculing their creative prose. I don’t like this game anymore. It’s my sandbox, and I don’t want to share.

  288. ozone April 3, 2013 at 8:58 pm #

    Thanks for weighing in on that. I always find it helpful to hear another person’s perspective on these puzzlements. Although it won’t change the circumstances one whit, I’ll disregard it as well.

  289. Kyooshtik. April 3, 2013 at 8:58 pm #

    That’s real funny Carol. Why don’t you stay the hell out for it for once, alright? I wouldn’t say something like that and you know it, so quit screwing around and leave me alone. I’ve got proofreading to attend to so take your immaturity elsewhere.

  290. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 9:06 pm #

    Well, I’m glad you’re out of the closet, “Q”. Liberace was a class act. I some him once in Vegas (wild and wooly weekend, if you know what I mean, wink, wink). I remember his act quite well. It was at the Mirage, I think, and the house was packed. The lights dimmed and Liberace came on stage. The ubiquitous candelabra sat elegantly on his white baby grand piano. He was wearing a blue and purple rhinestone studded one-piece suit (I know, right – to DIE for)! And his hair was PERFECT! A beautiful blend of black and gray, perfectly set and curls piled high atop his head, two spit curls on either side of his forhead.
    Anyways, I was there with my friend, you know, the friend I went to the beach with in California. We both got comped from the casino cause my friend lost a s_it load of money at Blackjack, Roulette, and Baccarat. So the casino, after plying us with drinks the whole time, comped us this fabulous room (2 king beds -she is NOT a les!) , a dinner of lobster and filet mignon, and 2 tickets to Liberace! I was like, “What the f is this, a friggin dream?” I mean, OMG, WTF! We must have gone through several bottles of champagne that night because after the concert I don’t remember a thing.
    Next thing I knew, I woke up on the sofa of some hotel suite that wasn’t ours, I had half of a glass of Makers Mark in my hand, and my friend’s clothes were scattered all around the room. I felt pretty sick at this point and needed to puke, cause I don’t drink bourbon or any brown liquor. I put the glass on the coffee table and struggled to get up off the couch.
    This tail to be continued………….

  291. ozone April 3, 2013 at 9:07 pm #

    Yow! Who woulda thunk that the insurers had to buy insurance from re-insurers! Jeebus-jumped-up-Christ-on-a-crutch, what a racket.
    Then they’ve got the gall to suggest that the taxpayin’ public should foot the bill for better protective infrastructure that might bring premium costs down a bit! Jimmy-crack-Christ-on-a-cretin, what a racket. Whew, nice work if you can call it “law” instead of “extortion”.

  292. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 9:09 pm #

    I do it because I’m better than you. It’s time for the old to step out of the way for the new. MY SANDBOX NOW, BITCHES!

  293. Julian C. Lee April 3, 2013 at 9:33 pm #

    I thought the absurdity of what I said (echoing Carolonius Newquist’s “there’s one race” drivel) would be obvious and not in character. I was just presenting the Jewish “there’s no race but us” view sarcastically for humor.
    I guess I can’t get away with using sarcasm much because I usually speak directly.

  294. Ixnei April 3, 2013 at 9:34 pm #

    “””architectural eyesore for this month?”””
    My bad, sock puppet!!! I apparently lost out to an amoeba! Looking at this latest *eyesore*, it appears to me that there is an underlying concrete/steel/glass structure of some sort, surrounded by the amoeba *shell*. And that shell doesn’t look like glass Windoze ™ to me, but rather liek galvanized fencing, done up in *LATEX WHITE*. Perhaps they thought this additional barrier would prevent a meteor from becoming a meteorite!!!

  295. IxNoMor April 3, 2013 at 9:45 pm #

    Yo! Sock prime!!!
    “underlying concrete/steel/glass structure, surrounded by the amoeba *shell*”
    Now, where *on earth* have WE seen THAT *B4*?!…

  296. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 9:47 pm #

    My tail continued….
    As I awoke in the dimly lit suite, I took notice that it was considerably nice than my friend’s and my suite. It had a small kitchenette, mini-bar, stove, etc. It also had a small dining room. Floor to ceiling drapes were drawn back to reveal a magnificent view of the strip, wall-to-wall.
    The room itself was in slight disarray. Several mini bottles of liquor of all sorts were strewn across the coffee table. They formed what appeared to be a frame around a rather large pile of what appeared to be cocaine in the center. Feeling queasy, I did not stop to investigate it at this point.
    I headed for the door that must have led to the bedroom. As I placed my hand on the knob, and before I turned it, I heard a woman moan softly as a rhythmic pounding, not unlike the beat of a war drum, could be heard inside the room. Needless to say, I did not go into the room and turned on my heel to make tracks quickly to the kitchen sink, my stomach doing somersaults and my vision starting to fade.
    As I made my way to the sink, I fell over a floral-printed slipper chair and landed squarely on my stomach. Involuntarily I emptied the contents of my stomach onto the soft wool, wall-to-wall beige carpet. God was I embarrassed. My head was pounding and my throat was dry. I picked myself up off the floor and using the upended slipper chair, raised myself up. Making it to the kitchen, I poured myself a glass of water. I felt as though I were putting out a sand fire in the desert as the coolness dripped down my hot throat. After several refills, I collected myself and headed back into the living room. All I could focus on was that pretty pile of snow in the middle of the coffee table, and the rolled up ten dollar bill laying beside it.

  297. carolnewquist... April 3, 2013 at 9:52 pm #

    My tail to be continue………………….

  298. Ixnei April 3, 2013 at 10:00 pm #

    Wouldn’t it be really nice, if there whuz sum sort of cookie file for this forum, that allowed you to toggle *OFF* certain posters (a ‘click’ box next to their name), so you no longer see their *SPAM*?!?
    As it is now, I’m scrollin’ liek a *BANSHEE*!!!

  299. Beantownbill April 3, 2013 at 10:43 pm #

    O3, CFN has really been hit badly by troll attacks. I think we’re down to about 10% good content. I wish JHK would read the comments section more often; then he’d see what’s happened to his blog. It’s one thing to deal with people who don’t share your viewpoint, but it’s another to have to put up with maliciously phoney discussion-blockers. Makes me wonder if our real conversations are getting certain PTB nervous. Or is the Internet just peopled by destructive ignoramuses?
    If we really want this bullshit to stop, our only practical solution is to completely ignore the pseudo-posters until they go away. Which they will if we never respond to them. Engaging them is what keeps them coming back. I’d rather see 200 thoughtful posts a week than 7 or 800 crappy ones. I’m calling on all the serious posters to IGNORE the trolls; just pretend their dribblings aren’t even here. Think of it this way: You’ll get your scrolling finger in really good shape.
    I was thinking. The false Q is the faux Q. Say faux Q fast. Sorry, real Q.

  300. Beantownbill April 3, 2013 at 10:45 pm #

    One of my big mistakes was never bothering to learn how to hack. If I had done so, I would wipe out the dipshits on here.

  301. Beantownbill April 3, 2013 at 10:50 pm #

    TSHTF blog has a thumb up/thumb down feature for every comment posted. If a particular post gets enough disapproval compared to approval, the offending comment is hidden from view.

  302. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 11:11 pm #

    Obviously ego reduction is what I meant by kicking ass. Don’t be so literal or you’ll never understand the Sufi Poets Baba love so much.
    You didn’t answer my question either. Seriously, it’s been a long time since I really delved into Baba and I never read everything. Is a Baba Lover absolved somehow from the need of going through the stages? And does that apply even to devotees who never met him and even after his death?

  303. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 11:16 pm #

    Yes life is habit, memory. Put on old clothes and grow your beard for a few days and your friends will walk right by you on the street. A few might recognize you and pretend not to see since homelessness is terrifying. Also as Roy Masters said, “A friend is need is a fiend indeed.”
    Also it had just impersonated Kyoo with its usual dot. So when I saw C. I assumed it was It.
    “It” is one of Stephen King’s best books. The movie is also good. Pennywise is a Clown Demon of great power.

  304. Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2013 at 11:24 pm #

    Too True. Feminism has revealed the Beast that the Sages warned about and Religions legislated against. The Church Fathers agreed with the East that Women are more lusty than men and but for the natural feminine shyness, “No flesh would be saved”. Now that shyness has been deliberately destroyed by appeals to their lust, egotism, and greed.
    But the worst of it is their egotism and judgement based on whim and trivial materialism. To put it simply, Women are assholes by and large.

  305. anti soak April 3, 2013 at 11:39 pm #

    Your loveable old Auntie here.
    I am wondering where the spam posters are posting from?
    Nice ‘eyesore’ for April.
    Reminds me of a beached whale.

  306. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 2:52 am #

    The story alluded to by the Deutero-Welles:
    I call him Deutero (second) instead of pseudo out of respect for his acumen and also in the remote chance that it is the rea Welles.

  307. AMR April 4, 2013 at 4:13 am #

    Your critiques of Asoka and Carol have been excellent.
    On the whole, I haven’t given those two or their motivations much thought, since their contributions have been so singularly pathetic and they have been the subjects of practically universal ridicule. I’ve regarded them as minor nuisances that other members of the peanut gallery (mainly you, SJ Mom and Eleuthero) were already dealing with quite adeptly. I was contentedly agnostic about the identities and goals of both of these annoyances.
    Tonight, however, the pieces of the puzzle suddenly fell into place in my mind. There was always something off about Asoka’s writing, something too stilted and daft about it. As I read your most recent analysis, it hit me that this style of writing is very much like what I’ve seen from low-level PR copywriters. It’s the same flat, soulless, formulaic, unreadable garbage, the same regurgitation of hackneyed talking points with no effort to polish them or place them into any appropriate context. It’s about what I’d expect from an article in American Way Magazine about the up-and-coming arts and food scene in Fort Wayne.
    The absurd thing, of course, is that this pathetic shtick was kept up for so long on a weekly comment thread with so many sharp, eloquent writers. Anyone with a lick of sense would have realized that Asoka was being creamed every week and that the shtick was falling completely flat. The thought of government agents repeating this psy-ops failure week in and week out conjures up images of official incompetence at its most sublime.
    With Carol, things are getting really interesting. Asoka was a great mediocrity, but easily controlled and easily replaced. There’s no counting the numbers of losers who will do that for a paycheck, and often a paltry one. Carol is a different story. I can think of two plausible explanations: either she (probably he in this case) is a deadpan comic genius, or he/she is an uncontrollable nutcase (about equal odds WRT sex in this case). My guess is that a sane person capable of writing at that level would be able to command a premium on the open market and would engage in aggressive pay arbitrage unless she were waiting to pension out as a military or clandestine services officer. That leaves a better-than-average chance that Carol is bonkers, in which case her federal employer has opened Pandora’s Box. It wouldn’t be the first time, by a long shot.
    One does not simply control teh crazy. As a rule of thumb, those who write stories about watching dogs defecate in front of Starbucks on Lexington Avenue tend to go off the reservation.
    Your government at work, folks.

  308. Eleuthero5 April 4, 2013 at 4:19 am #

    Caroloka Asquist said:
    You, like Janos, are rarely at a loss for words, even when you make them up,
    This coming from the person who outblabbed everybody on the fucking board by a margin of about 3 to 1 for the last several days. So, tell me, what’s it like to be an imposter?

  309. Eleuthero5 April 4, 2013 at 4:21 am #

    Caroloka Assquist said:
    Money (fiat wealth) is not what makes us happy but rich human interpersonal relations. We are entering a new phase in human existence were love knows no boundaries and open hearts coexist with open minds.
    Now I absolutely KNOW you’re Ass Soaker. I love mandarins who don’t work talking about a utopian future. Being out of touch with the idea of necessity gives them the time to muse endlessly on philosophical bullshit. Hilarious.

  310. Eleuthero5 April 4, 2013 at 4:24 am #

    Q. said to “Carol”:
    . You could have saved the time and money of traveling to the CU by arranging for direct deposit, not to mention getting your money weeks earlier. You prepared your own returns electronically I assume?
    I’m afraid I disagree with you here, Q.. If you’ve known people with complex returns who’ve dealt with the IRS or their state tax board, just handing them your routing number means they can also just TAKE the money if they think it’s owed them. I have an attorney who has had this happen to him multiple times.

  311. Eleuthero5 April 4, 2013 at 4:28 am #

    Hint number two about Caroloka Assquist: The aliases with dots after their name. Only person who’s ever done that that I know of is Ass Soaker. That and the explosion in posting volume are very LOUD clues. “Carol” is Ass Soaker. “She” is every bit as doctrinaire and useless as “he”.

  312. Eleuthero5 April 4, 2013 at 4:32 am #

    Q. to Caroloka Assquist:
    Your knowledge and use of vocabulary is a mile wide and a sixteenth of an inch deep.
    Of course, it’s the mark of the dilettante and the “sophomore” … the wise fool. However, we have a problem again since Assquist is Asoka we now have a board where 60% of the posts are either Assquist’s or responses to Assquist. Just when you thought it was safe to go in the water again … ;~)

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  314. Eleuthero5 April 4, 2013 at 4:35 am #

    Carol Assquist said:
    I fantasize about Asoka.
    Of course you do … you masturbate to your own image.

  315. Eleuthero5 April 4, 2013 at 4:39 am #

    Bill said:
    O3, CFN has really been hit badly by troll attacks. I think we’re down to about 10% good content.
    Bill, it’s because Asoka is Carol Newquist. The various Carols have exploded the board (a hint that it’s Asoka) with aliases with dots after their handles (only Asoka ever did this). It’s just like the bad old days i.e., one user with several handles trashes the content.
    I know I’m a broken record but the only solution is to ignore Asoka, and his “Carol” disguises completely. You’re right, it’s gotten terrible again.

  316. Kyooshtik. April 4, 2013 at 7:11 am #

    Of course, it’s the mark of the dilettante
    I’ve noticed you repeat words a little too often, and in doing so fall into the same trap as the Entity and its overuse of words like “concomitantly”, “eschew” and “anent”. A good gang rape does not need to be sloppy. There’s a way to do it and remain dignified. Let’s not stoop to the victim’s level. Now, carry on. Hopefully, with a lot of hard work and a little luck, what we’re doing here can be used as a case study for women’s studies at various universities around the world. Let’s show them what rape culture is all about, shall we.

  317. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 7:25 am #

    I have an attorney who has had this happen to him multiple times.
    Oh, come on you impotent misogynist, it’s you who’s in trouble with the IRS, not some attorney friend. It would help explain your deep-seated anger and rage. You’re on a list no doubt as a Joesph Stack type, ready to burn it all down at any moment. They’re monitoring you as we speak. When Precrime rolls out, you’ll be locked up for good where you belong with the rest of the raging lunatics. I don’t understand why cretins like you force honest taxpayers like us to pay for the intimacy you so obviously crave. Why can’t you all just get together voluntarily on your own dime rather than forcing us to pay for your food, clothing, housing and medical care while you wile away the days playing footsie with each other in the showers.

  318. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 7:40 am #

    Let me see if I can stich this together. Let’s start here. Since my namesake with three dots has mentioned North Carolina in one of its slapdashed stories, we can surmise that the perpetrator resides in North Carolina. As such, I believe it is the same person who inhabits the sockpuppet of myrtlemay, since that puppet has indicated “she” resides in North Carolina. It’s also the same person who inhabits the Buck’s a Stud puppet as witnessed by the similar style and similar mistakes. I will be doing further work on this today to narrow it down to a real person with a real name and all the various sockpuppets they employ at this site. Here is their location and ip.
    Windstream Communications ( 1383 returning visits
    United States FlagAlbemarle, North Carolina, United States

  319. carolnewquist... April 4, 2013 at 9:01 am #

    My tail continued………..
    So I sit on the sofa gazing down at the snow and quite literally feel like shit. My head is pounding and I notice that there is some puke on one of my golden tresses. I figure I can’t possibly feel any worse, so I grab razorblade and cut up a nice fat line for myself. With the rolled up ten dollar bill in my perfectly manicured hand, I start snorting. Well, you know what they say about coke, it makes you feel like a new man, er…woman, I mean. Problem is the first thing the new woman wants, newquist it, is another line, which I proceed to do. About a half hour later, still no sign of life coming from the bedroom, I’m thinking that I should go back to my own hotel, Caesar’s, to shower and clean myself up. I look in my Fendi bag to notice that I have no money. I grab the rolled up ten spot and place it in my purse. As I head toward the door, I put the slipper chair over the pile of puke that I deposited there earlier, sort of to cover my tracks. Plus, I really resent having to look at dog poo on Lexington Avenue and I just don’t think it’s lady like to leave such a mess to be seen.
    My mission is to get from the Luxur, the hotel I somehow found myself at, back to Caesar’s, a good mile at least down the road. So as I head downstairs on the elevator, I hear the slot machines and the noise from the tables. Being a bit coked up at this point, I decide, what the fuck, and give a shot at one of the five dollar tables. I put my ten on the table and the dealer gives me two $5.00 chips. I lose the first hand. Now I only have $5.00 to my name. The cocktail waitress comes around and I order a screwdriver, which I’m thinking is the only breakfast I’ll get today. I decide to go all the way and play my last chip. Tiny bits of sweat form on my forehead. The dealer starts to pull cards from the rack. Some fat old geezer sits next to me and plunks a $25.00 chip down. He annoys me cause he’s got a big fat stogie and the smoke is starting to nauseate me. I get my first card. It’s a five of spades. The dealer pulls a card for the geezer. He gets a 10 of diamonds. The dealer pulls a Jack of hearts for himself.
    Tail to be continued……………

  320. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 9:49 am #

    Buck, come out now, we know it’s you, and we know you’re in North Carolina. In fact, it’s pretty much a sure thing you’ve been the dot puppets here all along, as well as numerous other so-called “legitimate” posters. What’s of more interesting note is how “the gang” here has responded to these dot puppets. It’s quite telling. In the case of the dot puppet you created in my name, “the gang” pretends it’s me, when it clearly is not, yet when you dot on asoka or adequatio they’re quick to call out that it’s not asoka or adequatio but rather an imposter. The implication is that asoka and adequatio are part of the ploy; a foil if you will. Kyooshtik is usually the one to make this clear and he makes sure to clarify and underscore that the dot is most definitely not asoka or adequatio. In my case, Kyooshtik has reversed course and claimed the dot in my name is me, as opposed to someone spoofing my name. This indicates to me that there is a ruse being played out here in the comments section as I expected all along, and it’s being conducted by a handful of people, perhaps no more than four or five using multiple monikers.
    Of course, I’m not speaking to “the gang” when I think through this. I’m speaking to the audience who has been watching and reading and following the events. Please realize dear audience that my mission is to expose this charade in its entirety, and part of that mission is to treat it as an absurdity, hence my radically absurd satire. Now excuse me as I slip back into my superhero costume and Brattleboro these villains to the death.
    And audience, as we travel down this road of total disclosure, keep asking yourself why “the gang” has gone to these lengths. That’s the question that will ultimately have to be answered.

  321. ront April 4, 2013 at 10:18 am #

    Janos, Meher Baba said that he came for all as Avatar (Christ, Rasool, Ancient One) to provide a universal Spiritual push to all of Creation, but that He is “for a few” to whom He guides and helps individually and uniquely to get closer to Truth (Who one really is). After over 40 years in this mystical relationship, I would say a good way to describe it is that “it is not so much the following of a path, but that the path is following me.” I cannot speak for others, but it is for me not about gaining something I didn’t have but stripping away the ignorances and limitations and desires that bind and entangle. It is the spiritual freedom that matters not the personal freedoms and liberties that the worldly paradigms preach. People are waking up to this in all walks of life.
    Life in the world for me is an ongoing process of thinking of, and pleasing, myself less and less, and remembering and pleasing the One in the many more and more. Gradually this causes ambitions and fears to fall away, leaving me a bit freer to serve and love as life unfolds.

  322. Beantownbill April 4, 2013 at 10:20 am #

    E, imagine you work in a mental institution. After awhile you would completely ignore the mutterings of those inmates who continually ramble on. You would have learned you couldn’t carry on an effective dialogue with them, so why bother?
    The same situation applies here. It doesn’t matter whether it’s one poster with multiple sock puppets or a group of real individuals; off-the-wall comments require (and actually demand) no response. As I stated before, it’s one thing to disagree with someone (as we have with some real doozies, which I now apologize for. Let us agree to disagree and be civil to each other), and quite another to deal with agenda-driven deranged posters.

  323. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 10:37 am #

    No dice Bill. When you treat vermin racist scum with any form of respect, you give them legitimacy. I viewed this comments section for many moons before taking this challenge on. The patterns are observable for anyone who takes the time. I have determined you are part of the charade, whether you’re directly and voluntarily involved, or a moronic, unwitting stooge. I think it’s the former. A sane person knows YOU HAVE NO TRUCK WITH racists, and it’s quite clear there is a racist cabal camping out here. You give them no respect. They get no legitimacy. You grind their oleaginous bodies into the dirt where they belong and you never ever let them up or go. The roots of Fascism should never be allowed to sprout. I am a pre-emergent control. You should be thanking me, not criticizing me. The fact you do the latter seals the deal that you are part of the charade.

  324. ozone April 4, 2013 at 11:02 am #

    ” A scramble for safety now ensues, not just to lay hold of anything with remaining real “moneyness,” but for the resources that drive the kind of economies we have. In other words, for gold and silver, and for oil and gas.” -JHK
    Not only safety, but using the machinery of political power, the grip on the riches of “others”. Our neighbors to da Norf should be very, very careful about who they’re letting through the door, and a develop a belligerent disregard for the desires of the puppet, Harper.
    To paraphrase:
    “Will no one rid us of these meddlesome priests [of fictional wealth accumulation]?”
    The fuckers just refuse to take their loot and GO. Now, who do you think we might want to disenfranchise first? They’re playing this one pretty damn close to the wire (of collapse). The Final Looting before The Great Crumbling.

  325. GAZ April 4, 2013 at 11:15 am #

    carol SpewMist….the neighborhood dog that constantly barks just to hear itself bark. Everybody wants it to STFU, some people would like to kill it if they could get away with it. But nothing happens and just…keeps…barking.
    bark..bark..bark..licks genitals..bark..bark..bark..bark……

  326. ozone April 4, 2013 at 11:17 am #

    Oh, and you might just want to take a look at the entire “front page” of zerohedge this morning. Too many shenanigans and manipulations to list…
    My sympathies to those enmeshed in the tightening snare of the current Dominant Paradigm. We all will suffer via its’ many pathways and tentacles, but those who are the most heavily invested (by employment or financial instruments) will suffer the most, because I don’t think they’re psychologically prepared for any “lifestyle compromises”.

  327. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 11:20 am #

    The fuckers just refuse to take their loot and GO. Now, who do you think we might want to disenfranchise first? They’re playing this one pretty damn close to the wire (of collapse). The Final Looting before The Great Crumbling.
    Yes, and the folks behind zerohedge are in league with those “fuckers.” Or do you think they’ve created their website out of beneficence? They are so-called “former” Wall Streeters, afterall. There’s no such thing as a “former” Wall Streeter. It’s like the CIA, once you’re CIA, you’re always CIA. You can check out anytime you like, but you may never leave. zerohedge does what it does because it has an investment angle. More than likely they’re invested to the hilt in precious metals and commodities, and they’re shorting the dollar like crazy. Their website helps create a climate of fear and distrust that bolsters and amplifies their returns. And if we’re to believe you’re a real person and not just an anonymous caricature on the internet, you’re their target market. They’re suckering fools like you by playing to your Amygdala. It’s all part of the big scam. And when things get real dicey, they inculcate Fascism by funding populist groups to start the scapegoating process ensuring that when the blame game gains traction once things get bad enough, the Plebs murder each other, and not the ultimate culprits. These are tried and true strategies. They’ll do it again because it works. In fact, they’re doing it now as we speak. Numbers USA is an example, as is Golden Dawn and UKIP.

  328. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 11:29 am #

    some people would like to kill it if they could get away with it.
    Note to file. I’m sure that’s the case, and it’s no doubt one of the reasons the FBI and DoD visit here. Who are these “people” who would like to kill me? Is this what ozone meant when he said I was putting myself in peril?

  329. GAZ April 4, 2013 at 11:55 am #

    FBI? DoD? Peril?
    Get over yourself. This is opinion sharing and shit throwing. Seriously, you know what sarcasm is right? There is nothing going on here that would interest ANY bugdet strapped Gov. agency.

  330. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 12:21 pm #

    Aren’t you the little tattooed, skinhead coward to back off when a little heat is applied after you issued a threat. If there’s any barking around here, it’s you and your friends with your hive-mind, scapegoating, Fascist propaganda about race, gender and immigration. Go crawl back in the sewer from whence you came you slimy coward.

  331. GAZ April 4, 2013 at 12:38 pm #

    ( reaches for tissues to wipe tears )

  332. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 12:49 pm #

    But you never met him in the flesh I assume. This isn’t impossible but it’s not the classic Eastern paradigm. You follow Baba the way Christians follow Christ. Or Muslims Mohammad. I can’t say the way Hindus follow Krishna or Rama because even the Bhakti Traditions demand that one have a Guru. As the Prabhupad used to say, Krishna doesn’t want you to say you are his devotee. He wants to hear that you are the devotee of His Devotee since He loves them more than Himself. And it also keeps you out of trouble since his Devotee can kick your ass for Him.

  333. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 12:53 pm #

    Optimum Online ( 1 returning visit
    United States FlagPeekskill, New York, United States
    4 Apr 12:24:02
    Saw this one in the visitor’s path section. It’s a writer’s blog. Here’s the link:
    The thought has crossed my mind that the comments section, for the most part, is just a mind-fuck by bored writers playing around with their craft. If that’s the case, what a bunch a worthless losers to do such a thing. It’s one thing to say that’s what’s up, but it’s entirely another to disguise it, especially considering the serious nature of the ruse; i.e race, gender, immigration and Fascism.

  334. bigview April 4, 2013 at 1:03 pm #

    Our views may not always coincide in geopolitics. But… You are an excellent writer, Kunstler.

  335. Bustin Jay April 4, 2013 at 1:21 pm #

    Carl’s Jr. said, “It’s one thing to say that’s what’s up, but it’s entirely another to disguise it, especially considering the serious nature of the ruse; i.e race, gender, immigration and Fascism.”
    The same could be said of the New York Times.
    What is your point, my good man.

  336. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 1:36 pm #

    True, and that’s not just limited to the New York Times. It applies to all manner of propaganda in all its manifest forms, mainstream or otherwise.
    I’m curious, though, why did you choose the NYT? Did you think I would defend that rag? Really? This is the problem with people who think ideologically. Everything is an either/or, for/against, left/right, conservative/democrat, black/white….the list goes on and on.
    This is why I say to get out of the box and be your own man and/or woman. Think freely, critically and objectively, don’t ape the ideas and words of others. No, I’m not saying you need to be original. At this point in human history, the notion of originality is absurd. Anything any of us do or say is a culmination of everything that has come before, so in that sense we can’t take credit for the cumulative effort of the heretofore unacknowledged, but that doesn’t mean we have to blindly follow the lead of those who would take such credit for themselves and call themselves original. Chart your own course without being tethered to the jaundiced prejudices of the sour and sadistic salamanders who seek to spoil the soup.

  337. progress4conserving April 4, 2013 at 1:41 pm #

    “E, imagine you work in a mental institution. After awhile you would completely ignore the mutterings of those inmates who continually ramble on. You would have learned you couldn’t carry on an effective dialogue with them, so why bother?
    The same situation applies here. It doesn’t matter whether it’s one poster with multiple sock puppets or a group of real individuals; off-the-wall comments require (and actually demand) no response.”
    -btb, to E5, concerning the Repellent Entity-
    Nice analogy, Bill. But let’s take it a step or two further. Certainly, you would appear to ignore the insane mutterings of the inmates much of the time, BUT you would keep a written log of those mutterings, and discuss them with other staff members, in an attempt to learn how to better manage those inmates.
    And so it must be with the Repellent Entity (aka “carol,” TM K/Q) Consider the following “carol”ism.
    “…you and your friends with your hive-mind, scapegoating, Fascist propaganda about race, gender and immigration.” -the Repellent Entity-
    This was addressed to GAZ, but really is a reference by “carol” to EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL WITH WHOM “she” HAS EVER DISAGREED.
    For example Bill, “carol” once forcefully said that you weren’t Jewish (or not Jewish enough for “carol”?) because of your views on reducing US immigration. She’s stereotyping you by ethnic group and using the stereotype to try to force you to shut up on the subject.
    This is offensive, and should be countered.
    In summary – all CFN posters should feel free to talk ABOUT our Repellent Entity(ies?)
    While all CFN posters avoid (when possible) talking DIRECTLY TO said Repellent Entity(ies?).
    (credit for this tactic goes to Hancock1863, once again MIA on CFN)
    One of the asokadatio/”carols” will eventually launch a nasty, sexist, and/or racist attack against this post and/or my posting persona.
    DO NOT RESPOND TO “her.” Instead, analyze what “she” has to say, like a fellow professional at the CFN asylum, and report your analysis to any other poster, or to the CF Nation at large.
    Perhaps we can “help” “carol?”
    Someone needs to.

  338. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 1:43 pm #

    Leave it to you to amplify this sideshow distraction. Look over here at this buffoon rather than the man behind the curtain.
    North Korea is not a threat. This is pure propaganda to distract from the bilking of depositors across the West that’s about to unfold.

  339. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    You know, I would read what you have to say if you could arrange it in such a way where it’s readable. What is up with your bizarre formatting and style? It’s as though you’re trying very hard to pretend to be someone you’re not. If that’s the case, you’re over-doing it, so tone it down a notch and clean it up. If not, I can only imagine what your taxes are like. You’re totally screwed if you get audited, because your organization skills leave a lot to be desired.

  340. progress4conserving April 4, 2013 at 1:52 pm #

    “This is why I say to get out of the box and be your own man and/or woman. Think freely, critically and objectively, don’t ape the ideas and words of others.” -“carol,” to bustin jay-
    This is actually a reasonable idea, embedded in a relatively reasonable post, and expressed by “carol.”
    I’ll point out for the assembled gathering that this sort of cycling between reasonableness and complete disin·genu·ous·ness is/was a standard tactic of the “vanished?” asoka…
    Do not be deceived.
    Report all analysis to central staffing, please.

  341. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 1:52 pm #

    I may agree with this great Ban, but I hestitate since the same thing was proposed about me many times. Indeed to denizens like Ozone or Dale, anyone who is Race Conscious and White must be a DoD agent or just a Sicko.
    I think we can all agree that Asoka was more effective in the sense of believable, but Carol makes up for this with sheer malice.

  342. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 1:55 pm #

    Carol, you have alot of experience with the Seamy side of life, check this out: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/gordon-ramsays-dwarf-porn-double-percy-foster-dies-in-badger-den/story-e6frf7jx-1226137921668
    What do you think? A hit or just kink gone wrong? I mean what could be sexier than doing it in a badger den? Where is Gordon on all this? Is he a suspect I wonder? He might not have been flattered to have “a dwarf porn double”!

  343. progress4conserving April 4, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

    “You know, I would read what you have to say if you could arrange it in such a way where it’s readable. What is up with your bizarre formatting and style? It’s as though you’re trying very hard to pretend to be someone you’re not.”
    -the Repellent Entity-
    Now, we see the RE pretending to be STOO-PIID, so as to avoid confronting “her” issues.
    Anyone else, other than “carol” newlystoopid, have any significant troubles understanding the main point of my post @ 1:41?
    If so, let me know.
    Maybe we can “help” “carol.”
    Someone needs to.

  344. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 2:01 pm #

    This buffoon? Meaning Obama? The Elite know they can’t control or create everything, so they have mastered the art of reacting quickly to whatever naturally arises.

  345. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 2:07 pm #

    How many times have you ignored and/or evaded my questions and the burning issues I bring up. Now you want my cooperation?
    In my Heart burns a fiery cross that cannot be extinguished. And did not the poet Ramprasad speak of the burning ground of the Heart? The fiery cross is call to arms, but you deny that such a thing is necessary and that there is no Emergency.
    I acknowledge and appreciate that you have never doubted my existence and have even on occasion defended my right to speak.

  346. progress4conserving April 4, 2013 at 2:08 pm #

    “I may agree with this great Ban, but I hestitate since the same thing was proposed about me many times.” -janos-
    The difference is that this is a problem INTERNAL to this (or most any other) unmoderated discussion thread.
    “carol,” in all her Repellent Manifestations, is a simple troll – on this peak everything website.
    And anyway, I don’t propose a “great Ban” for “carol.” I propose to isolate her by talking about her exclusively in the third person.
    It’s a way to deal with trolls without bitching to JHK, or whatever.

  347. Bustin Jay April 4, 2013 at 2:39 pm #

    Johnny Skuzzy sez, ” It will increase with Amnesty as more Hispanics dream of “freedom” – free health care, welfare, food stamps, education etc – all on the backs of White Slaves to stupid and cowardly to rebel.”
    Yep, can’t say it isn’t true. I’ve been reading the NYTimes very closely and the pattern has emerged: they are not reporting the news, but setting the tone. There is a “New Attitude” toward illegal immigration, they say, slipping the premise right by the reader. They repeat the figure “11 million illegals” endlessly, like GW Bush’s “WMD”- say it enough times and it takes on the superficial appearance of being true.
    They have featured some soft news features from the “opposing camp” not-too-obviously written to paint the opposition as reactionary and backward.
    The Bottom line is that the NYTimes has an agenda, and as the world’s dominant media organization (arguably) it is willing to play political power broker. I’ve been reading it quite closely over the last 5 years as it was bought out by Mexican media/communciations Oligarch and monopolist Carlos “Slim” Helu.
    Among this weeks information: because some reporter spent a few afternoons in Zacatecas, the headline is produced that “new amnesties” won’t “create flood of immigrants”. It talks about these small towns being emptied, with whole families now living in the US (propping up the Mc-Housing industry, no doubt). Could be. Could also be Zacatecas state is filled with narco scumbags, riddled with corruption, and without any domestic pressure to change (because the US is a giant sociopolitical relief valve).
    What a joke. They premise this pile of shite with by prefacing it by citing the 1986 Reagan amnesty (which legalized under 3 million). The report says that the current 11 million new illegals all came because of poor legal framework and lax law enforcement.
    If one were a complete idiot they might agree a new Amnesty would mean less Mexican immigrants. Quite the opposite will happen, according to my calculus. And the origin is largely meaningless. They will come from all over the world. When the worlds richest nation announces free benefits for criminals, its clear what kind of immigration policy we’re talking about. Its not for the benefit of the legions of homeless and jobless Americans. Its a new SHAFTA to go with your NAFTA. America will continue to export manufacturing, double down on financial churn and unmoored development, and in 10 years be ready for another round of Shamnesty.

  348. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 2:42 pm #

    Well Lucan used and urged that against me. As does Ozone now. But I will consider joining if others are willing.
    Kyoo will be the biggest problem since he loves grammatically sparring with it.

  349. Bustin Jay April 4, 2013 at 2:50 pm #

    Hilarous: “Last Friday in Miami it was less Entrophy Fair and more Bridges Over Troubled Wagers for Mr. Obama as he made the case for more private investment in public infrastructure projects. He gave an upbeat speech at the Port of Miami”
    Good job although I would nominate “Are you going to Entropy Faire” as blog title of the year.

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  351. Beantownbill April 4, 2013 at 5:04 pm #

    When I was a lot younger than I am now, I read a lot of science fiction. Many SF writers envisioned a future Earth with a one- world government. At the time, the idea seemed very reasonable and inevitable to me. The world was shrinking and certainly it would be feasible and much more effective for the human race to have a single agenda,whatever that might be,
    Even today, a one-world government, in theory, should be desirable. But, alas, I was too young and idealistic to understand why such a government is a really bad idea, despite any positive theoretical good underpinnings.
    At the human race’s current level of maturity, it is simply not in our best interests to give that kind of power to a few movers and shakers.
    I also realize that I am very comfortable with my station in life. I happen to live in an area of the world that is on the top, so to speak. America has nothing to gain by giving great power to a relatively few persons, and everything to lose. It’s just human nature that we so easily succumb to the old saying that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Since we, relative to the rest of the world, have it so good now, what could we possibly gain in such a situation?
    So I guess it is in my own best interest to heartily oppose the current trend of globalism.

  352. rube-i-con April 4, 2013 at 5:28 pm #

    …and also in the remote chance that it is the rea Welles.
    yes brother vlad, it is indeed the real Welles of yore, with eyes now wide open down here in south america.
    these scum that raped the american girl simply should be freed, and then wiped out by the good guys with guns down here. happens sometimes here, i.e. the bad guys get what they deserve.
    otherwise, these miscreants will be out on the streets, mark my words.
    want to know what brazil REALLY is? click the following http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFCM6TZgTMI
    peace peaceniks

  353. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 5:28 pm #

    Yes, same here. It could happen, but only if we got a fresh start on another world. The Earth will “always” at least for tens of thousands of years, be the home of warring nations and races at many stages of personal, social, and national evolution. Look at the Kurds, the Tamils, and the Sikhs. They are going to give up Nationhood when it’s been denied to them? I don’t think so. There are dozens if not of other major examples and hundreds of smaller ones.
    Think of Robert Heinlein: he wrote again and again about One World States that were boring, and dreary Utopias. The best people left the Earth for the Solar System. Strangely, he was also for erasing the border with Mexico, at least at one point. That was his Libertarianism speaking. I bet he would have reconsidered that.
    The Zionists still dream of a One World State governed from Jerusalem. Maybe you could give a talk at your local Synagogue about why that is a bad idea.

  354. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 5:41 pm #

    Repeat something endlessly and it “becomes” true. Basic human programming. Thus Global Warming (changed to Climate Change when the rubes woke up to the chill) and the Six Million – which stays six million even as the scholars reduce the number of Jewish dead and as they continue to ignore all the other dead.
    And people wonder why I harp on my few points again and again! There’s nothing complicated or admirable about the average Joe or Joette. We will keep repeating our mantra of White Genocide until it begins to reverberate with the Masses. And then we win. Is this devious? No it’s honest and it also happens to be True. That’s more than can be said for most of the Establishment Mantras. Nothing could be more hateful or “disrespectful” than replacing your own population with aliens just to make money or have a more pliable work force.

  355. anti soak April 4, 2013 at 5:46 pm #

    Yes, of course BUT are the 4? 5? ‘new’ asoka
    handles DoD?
    Are they thru a proxy?
    Does anyone know?
    Who can track the stats from JHKs homepage?

  356. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 5:46 pm #

    Beautiful. A great movie. Blacks immediately thought it was about them. Who are we to disagree if they recognize their own likeness?
    My favorite part is when the wize Orange Groid tells Taylor not to go down that beach cuz he wont like what he sees. Indeed the forbidden zone (New York, California, etc) was once a paradise but White Stupidity turned them into waste lands.

  357. carolnewquist... April 4, 2013 at 5:51 pm #

    It really is time for us all to come together and be as one united force. We are all in this boat together and that means we have to get along. What the world needs now is love, sweet love. We all really need to get along. How sad that we have these divisions amongst ourselves. I mean, can we all really just get along. I mean please? We all know the man is out to get us and has been since at least the ’60s. And it’s getting worst. Its time that we recognize that the enemy is not our black, Chicano, or Hispanic brothers or sisters. It’s the freakin power elite, man!

  358. carolnewquist... April 4, 2013 at 5:58 pm #

    Hello???? This type of racial division is EXACTLY what we don’t need right now, like, OKAY??? You really are a very stupid man. Stupid even for a white man, I mean really!

  359. adequatio April 4, 2013 at 6:08 pm #

    Thanks for your comment, Beantown. Following your logic, is it in your best interest to give up decision making power to the Cambridge city council, if you live in Cambridge?
    Going the opposite direction, away from “one-world-government,” eventually leads to anarchism. Anarchism is also theoretically beautiful and anarchism works if people take responsibility for their own lives. But most people don’t. Giving up power to the a local City Council is not unlike giving up power to a “one-world-government” (perhaps worse since you have the illusion that you can control “local” government). But in each case others are making decisions in your name. You have given away power.

  360. xhalor April 4, 2013 at 6:18 pm #

    ” ‘carol,’ in all her Repellent Manifestations, is a simple troll – on this peak everything website.”
    I concur about “Carol” being a “Repellent Manifestation” with a caveat. This person is not a “simple troll”. This person is a paid antagonist. So when you are reading the Feminazi proclamations and prose about drinking and snorting coke (…ahh, memories) I take it with a grain of salt. Carol serves an important function here. Honestly, I agree with much of what Carol puts out.
    …snicker… puts out.
    I was kinda let down when Carol missed an OBVIOUS snappy comeback. When I accused her of “not seeing the hook in the worm”, an experienced asshole would have immediately acknowledged that the ruse was clearly the work of a Master Baiter.
    C’mon Carol. Bring yer “A” game. As long as I can log in, I’m coming. I can take The Pain.
    In fact, I LOVE the pain. I YEARN for the pain. It’s mental escape from the horrible employment that I get. Someday soon, I will be out at some construction site doing work that someone my age shouldn’t be doing. My grip will give out and I will far hard onto a concrete floor.
    It probably won’t end well.
    Do me a favor, play this at my funeral.

  361. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 6:22 pm #

    And by love you mean sex. Imagine a world wide sex orgy as John Lennon Songs, We are the World, and Coke Commercials are played everywhere. It would be like that Star Trek episode, Festival! Festival!
    And how quickly such love turns to hatred and violence…

  362. progress4conserving April 4, 2013 at 6:24 pm #

    “….both groups are ready, willing, and able to kick your white asses. You might consider moving to, oh, I don’t know, Cypress.”
    – the Repellent Impediment preaches hate-
    “Its time that we recognize that the enemy is not our black, Chicano, or Hispanic brothers or sisters.” – the Repellent Impediment preaches luv-
    So, besides the fact that the Repellent Impediment is completely schizoid on the subject of race.
    And the fact that “she” confuses the Island of Cyprus with a Swamp of Cypress – –
    There are things to be learned, here.
    For example, if you scratch the surface of most any location on Earth you will find cultural divisions playing out upon the geography.
    And Cyprus is no exception, unfortunately.
    From wiki:
    “Geopolitically, the island is divided into four main segments. The Republic of Cyprus, the internationally recognized government, occupies the southern two-thirds of the island. The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, recognized only by Turkey, occupies the northern one-third of the island. The United Nations-controlled Green Line is a buffer zone that separates the two.”
    It is the nature of groups of people to stratify. It will be the nature of the newly legalized “hispanic” immigrants to compete most directly against native born American blacks, mostly to the detriment of that population.
    This mess will be kept afloat on SNAP and Section 8 for as long as Federal largesse can be sustained. This being a “peak resources” discussion, those of us who are not trolls recognize that Federal largesse can not last forever.
    Things will have to get bad, before they get worse.
    We need more immigration like a boar hog needs tits.
    Register and send faxes, here.
    It’s easy, free, and helpful to US minorities.

  363. carolnewquist... April 4, 2013 at 6:25 pm #

    My tail continued…………..
    So the dealer has to stand pat at 16 and he’s got a jack. He then draws a 3, then a 5, then a queen. Jackpot! I win! He’s passed 21 and busted! I think I had a hand worth 15? So I get this feeling and say to myself, “Carolnewquist, honey, you’re luck has done changed!” So now I’m in for this little game!
    Dealer hands me two aces which naturally I split. Another winning hand for Carol…by this time I can feel the puke in my hair has started to dry so I can run my hands through it and it pretty much crumbles on to the floor. The waitress brings me my drink. I tell her to keep ’em comin, cause I’m on a role. Then the dealer hits me and I get, newquist it, 21! And I keep getting winning hands.
    Next thing I know, I’m up to around $900 bucks. Then, as quickly as it began, I start to lose. Small at first, then a bit bigger. I’m starting to get that little attitude that gamblers get, like, “dammit, I’m gonna get my money back or else.” Just then, I feel a tap on my shoulder. I turn to find someone I had not expected to see.
    Tail to be continued…………..

  364. adequatio April 4, 2013 at 6:36 pm #

    I thought that it couldn’t get worse than reams of Assoka’s toxic crap. But with the arrival of the repellent “Carol” and his pornographic commentary it just got worse. Is Carol the same person as Assoka? Maybe. K-Dog’s outing of Assoka, Assoka’s apparent origin at DoD, the subsequent disappearance as “Assoka” and the immediate surfacing of “Carol” were all very interesting. So back to the malicious hand. What do we talk about week in and week out?
    Duh. What are you talking about… again this week? Asoka. You (and others here) are obsessed with Asoka (or his/her ghost).
    Since Asoka has not posted here for weeks, maybe all of us (E., ProCon, antisoak, Mrs. Soake, Adequatio, Janos, Rhino, Julian, Ozone, Carol, etc.) should all just stop talking ABOUT him/her.
    This blog is called Clusterfuck Nation. This blog is not called All About Asoka. We don’t know whether Asoka has sock puppets here. Guessing games about Asoka week after week are a waste of time. I am tired of Asoka dominating CFN every week even though he/she/it no longer posts here.
    Nobody knows who anybody is on CFN. We are creating the clusterfuck, not Asoka. Asoka cannot clusterfuck us if we just let him/her/it go and stop talking ABOUT that entity; stop even mentioning it.
    Let’s stick to the subject of the blog: life in a time of energy/economic contraction. Seems more worthwhile. Thanks for reading.

  365. Beantownbill April 4, 2013 at 6:37 pm #

    A, I don’t live in Cambridge, nor will I ever. The city councilors are corrupt little dictators, and I just couldn’t live under those conditions. I’m not a flaming conservative, but I’m not also a flaming socialist. I try very, very hard to not give up whatever personal power I have left in this dictatorial country.
    You are correct about anarchy.

  366. Carol Newquist April 4, 2013 at 6:53 pm #

    You have to admit, Obama is a class act. Dubya never had this kind of class. I always said, once Roger Ebert dies, we’ve crossed the Rubicon. This is the straw that will break this camel’s back. Now, we’ll fit through the eye of that needle and pure bliss will await us on the other side.

    Michelle and I are saddened to hear about the passing of Roger Ebert. For a generation of Americans – and especially Chicagoans – Roger was the movies. When he didn’t like a film, he was honest; when he did, he was effusive – capturing the unique power of the movies to take us somewhere magical. Even amidst his own battles with cancer, Roger was as productive as he was resilient – continuing to share his passion and perspective with the world. The movies won’t be the same without Roger, and our thoughts and prayers are with Chaz and the rest of the Ebert family.

    Those are the words of a true Statesmen. Blessings to you President Obama.

  367. Beantownbill April 4, 2013 at 6:58 pm #

    The frontier always attracts the most daring, the most adventurous, the most self-sufficient, and the most anti-government. One way to look at our current situation is to realize that the American frontier ended around 1890, and for a nation to remain vital, it needs a frontier. Maybe everyone wouldn’t move to the frontier, but it’s comforting to know one has the option to go there if one needs to re-invent oneself.
    Not having that frontier constrains and confines us, thus making the populace inherently neurotic. I think that’s why I loved SF – the boundaries were removed in much of the writing.
    I couldn’t advise my congregation against a NWO because I am not affiliated with any synagogue. I would oppose the creation of any one world state, even if run by Jews. Maybe in the future, if I ever live long enough to see humanity grow up.
    Being against a one-world government doesn’t mean I would be against nations cooperating with each other to achieve a mutually beneficial goal.

  368. ComradeDystopia April 4, 2013 at 7:03 pm #

    Heard on BBC last nite while driving to work:
    Muslims and Buddhists kicking the shit out of each other in Burma, with Buddhists coming out on top because they’ve got the numbers. Muslim businesses boycotted, ransacked and destroyed after being forced to identify themselves as non Buddhist owned. Demonstrations led by Buddhist Monks demanding Muslims be kicked out of Burma.
    I read alot bullsh-t on this site about Buddhism. Its deep, its spiritual, it beats Christianity hands down. What do you say now, hosers?
    –Marlin Williams, aka ComradeDystopia

  369. progress4conserving April 4, 2013 at 7:03 pm #

    “How many times have you ignored and/or evaded my questions and the burning issues I bring up. Now you want my cooperation?” -js-
    First, vlad, we’re talking about trying to minimize the impact of “carol” on this thread, without whining to JHK or the SPLC. Since this is something that benefits almost everyone here, including JHK – who pays for the whole thing – I’m not sure why you would want a quid pro quo.
    I will consider the possibility that you enjoy “her” racist extremism, and feel you benefit from its hate-filled and prominent display, here.
    “How many times have you ignored and/or evaded my questions and the burning issues I bring up?”
    It appears, js, that you are finding my answers to your questions unacceptable; and then labeling that as “ignoring and evading.”
    You need to reexamine my answers, perhaps.

  370. adequatio April 4, 2013 at 7:07 pm #

    for a nation to remain vital, it needs a frontier. Maybe everyone wouldn’t move to the frontier, but it’s comforting to know one has the option to go there if one needs to re-invent oneself.
    Funny you should hint at the human need for exploration. The last frontier, where riches await discovery, is your own inner world. In Western culture, however, exploring deep within has been neglected, even tabooed. Since about 1500 A.D. inner exploration has been downplayed as emphasis changed to exploring physics, biology, society, technology: the outer world of science, navigation, nation-building.
    Traditionally the inner world has been known as a source of richness, love, freedom and divinity. The sages from Hindu, Sufi, Zen, Hasidic, and Taoist traditions see our inner world as a gold mine of happiness. In the modern West, however, it is often pictured as a snake pit of complexes, animal urges, incest, murder, cannibalism and repressed feelings. And it is true that our harmful conditioning may have created layers of negativity — anger, fear, sadness, and other wounds — which must be traversed to reach from the surface of your being to the Divine center.

  371. carolnewquist... April 4, 2013 at 7:18 pm #

    Roger Ebert knew that you don’t it’s okay to disagree and still like that person. He and Siskel (sp?) clearly did not like each other’s opinion’s but still managed to put together a great television show which talked about which movies were good and which ones flat out sucked. Our President knew the value of this dynamic duo and their contrasting opinions, so why can’t our congress? Heck, why can’t we here as Clusterfuckers/members of the HUMAN race? It truly baffles the intelligent mind.

  372. progress4conserving April 4, 2013 at 7:24 pm #

    “I read alot bullsh-t on this site about Buddhism. Its deep, its spiritual, it beats Christianity hands down. What do you say now, hosers?”
    I’d say those Buddhists Benefit Beaucoup Because they’ve got the Muslims outnumbered.
    Here are some European women who’ve had about enough of Muslim repression, too.
    This website will cause deep psychic damage to all of the “carols” and janos, for different reasons.
    Don’t look at the slideshow if the reality of the human breast is offensive to you.

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  374. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 8:28 pm #

    You are not wrong and perhaps even right. These are two different issues: my grievances against you and the RI issue.
    I will consider the mertits of the communication embargo on it own merits, I assure you. I’ve had the same thought. Even the mention of this has the Entity promising to be good and shifting its form.
    All I can say is that the survival of the White Race trumps every issue for Conscious White Men – even the survival of the United States. Since you cannot claim ignorance now, your blase attitude is unbearable to me. Why don’t I put such pressure on others? Because they are not as grounded and balanced as you are. Kyoo is obviously wedded to the status quo and did not have the advantages you have had: being born on the Land and Southern Land at that. The others more or less are the same.
    I think the answer is that you defend youself inwardly. This is quite common since knowledge has a moral dimension and requires action. For example, thru my interactions with Bill and Mika, you learned something about the Jews that you didn’t know before – knowledge that is not allowed by this Society. There is more to know about all this. I’ve tried to tell you but you don’t want to know. For my part, I try and follow Confucius who said: Others are more gifted than I but I have never met anyone more eager to learn. And I do fall short of this, but is it not a glorious ideal?
    The survival of the White Race is more important than feelings of comfort and virtue. Better to know and do a little or know and feel horrible than not to know at all.

  375. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 8:38 pm #

    This is going the wrong way. This kind of slut walking just leads to dissolution of Society and the Family. Check out pictures of the Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco. Live sex in public and little kids dressed up in S&M Black Leather. No, the Muslims are right even though they take it much too far. The Women around Christ dressed like Muslim Women – but without covering their face and certainly not the grotesque “bee keeper” space suits.
    Remember, those bare breasted women think they are too good for any man except maybe President Clinton or someone like that. They will think that way until they are within five years of menopause. Then they realize that they’ve overvalued themselves – and undervalued men.

  376. Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2013 at 8:52 pm #

    What are you actually asking? Real Buddhism is different than Yuppie Buddhism. Buddha was born into the Warrior Caste and never taught pacificism for Kings and Warriors. He taught it only for his Monks. So, where does your criticism go? It has some validity for the faux Asoka type Buddhism, certainly.
    I’m rootin for the Buddhists. Muslims can’t get along with anyone.

  377. carolnewquist... April 4, 2013 at 8:54 pm #

    We have come to the realization that white men have small penises and small minds. It’s a situation that has become something that we no longer wish to put up with. We therefore protest by showing the two out of the three things you white men are most afraid of, our breasts. You love and despise them both at the same time. You want to caress them at the same time you wish to bite them…really hard. That is why we don’t like you and wish to be around black and Hispanic men. They don’t have your hangups about the female body. Pervert.

  378. Bustin Jay April 4, 2013 at 10:58 pm #

    clusterfuck Newsquist writes, “I have never heard anyone arguing for immigration, legal or otherwise.”
    Oh, you must not be educated in U.S. schools. From the get-go, history class is a program whose mission is to make history “alive”. And so it is. For the human mind, especially the young, impressionable human mind, Geordi LaForge is horsewhipped in realtime on video. The Russians who were invaded by Napoleon are the same Russians that that sit around in suits and sunglasses smoking cigarettes under a parasol at the corner Starbucks. Civil Rights was just won last week! And all white people are hurrying home to carve crosses to burn on the lawns of black folks. Cesar Chavez himself just picked the Ceasar salad you just ate in the cafeteria. The pilgrims just landed in 1492, and commenced slaughter, like, what- yesterday?
    “I do hear many arguing against it, and those many are of a certain persuasion, so your argument is a strawman, and you’ve set it up this way to make unwitting readers believe this is a for-or-against matter, when it’s not.”
    In order for an argument to be classified as a strawman, I must set up the the object of my argument as a premise and then argue against that premise. Further, that premise must be a falsely simplistic version of the counter-position. Still following?
    “Immigration is not the root of the world’s troubles. It’s a symptom, and treating symptoms doesn’t cure the disease.”
    Actually, some diseases are cured by curing all the symptoms. In fact, without addressing the symptoms, what is called by physicians the “healing moment” will not occur. Prognosis for any disease alleviating without a “healing moment” is actually quite unlikely. To be specific, if you have a chronic condition X, if you do not treat the symptoms, the condition, or even just go see a health care provider, studies have shown that it is vastly less likely condition X will ameliorate. Even a simple placebo is enough of a “healing moment” to be at least somewhat effective.
    So in terms of my opposition to immigration, I think the current moment is a kind of “healing moment”. That is, in the weeks ahead, a great many views will be aired- and should be aired. But who controls those “airwaves”?? The NYTimes, among others, have been patiently staking out their position for years.
    Immigration is an exponential multiplier of the problem of population growth- which is driving resource use, carbon pollution, “Development as usual”, business as usual, Industrial agriculture, the industrial food system, international trade… it goes on, doesn’t it. Its a link in a very destructive chain, and, I would point out, very much at the root of the problem.
    But it doesn’t stop there. Agriculture works the way it does, around the world, because there is official sanction for its destructive practices. And the end result is very subsidized, very cheap, and very destructive “food” being dumped on the world market, dumped into other delivery systems, and ultimately, this practice has resulted in epidemics of disease and paradoxically, starvation.
    Mathematically, the exponential function is what we’re dealing with here.
    Lets say you have an initial population, X. The population growth rate over time is a function of X times Euler’s constant raised to the power of the sum of the population growth rate multiplied by the number of years of growth.
    Euler’s number is 2.71828, the base of the natural logarithm. You still with me champ?
    Lets say the US is currently at a total population of about 310 million. The current growth rate (births AND immigration over deaths is about 0.7%, expressed as a decimal, that is 0.007 in terms of the equation.
    So, 310 000 000 x 2.71828 ^ (0.007 x 10) = 332 million.
    The prediction is this: the population will be 332 million people in 10 years. How about in 38 years (2050, a good place to drop off the horizon)?
    310 000 000 x 2.71828 ^ (0.007 x 38) = 404 million.
    Lets imagine that we “legalize” 11 million mexican catholic laborers into the official statistics:
    321 000 000 x 2.71828 ^ (0.007 x 38) = 418 million.
    Well golly gee, somehow we now have 14 million more people. Where do we put the equivalent population of metro New York? Alaska? Arizona?
    Is your best case a distribution among all fifty states. Lets see, that amounts to 800,000 new people for every state, which doubles the population of quite a few states, and adds the equivalent of a major metropolitan city for all of them.
    Going back to I=PxAxT, lets assume affluence at least stays the same. Lets guess that technology advances. Population now multiplies technology in terms of the impact on the environment. Golly gee!
    Heres what I really suspect: there are about 30 million illegals in the USA. (If you ask, why 30, I will say only it is a nice round number, but I assume the government is covering its political ass, because if the number were higher than 11, we’d all be much less disposed to entertain their continued tenure.)
    Lets incorporate more realistic numbers:
    After 10 years:
    340 000 000 x 2.71828 ^ (0.007 x 10) = 364 million.
    After 38 years:
    So, 340 000 000 x 2.71828 ^ (0.007 x 10) = 443 million.
    And by 2100 (because I’m really optimistic), 629 million.
    Now lets say the new brown population expresses that typical Catholic sentiment of not engaging in rational birth controls:
    They are about 10% of the population, and lets say they procreate twice as much. The resulting growth rate is 0.0077 or (.1*.007) which gives us a population of about 670 million by 2100 (who will, with all probability, live in a world without winter, elephants, or cars.)
    But lets also say that, to each of fifty states, we’re going to double your population. Lets take some western states. In some of those states the total water draw is about 6x water resources. Lets double that to 12x.
    What about agriculture? Is there anything left to plow under? Not really. We cleared an area the size of the state of Maine last year, and that was surplus and reserve area, which was fallow- left to wildlife and accumulating diversity. No more. So what happens when this system meets its limits? Well, what you’re seeing right now: land speculation driving prices through the roof.
    They say, without illegal labor, food prices would rise- well guess what? They’re set to rise anyway. Something to do with living on a finite planet. Anyway. All that extra food will invariably, if the system gets its way (and you want the system to get its way, dontcha?) 90% of that will be commodity crops. Most will go to feed animals to feed to people, all through a corporate delivery chain. Nothing changes!
    But stopping immigration does much to help America. First, it keeps jobs here! It ends the distortions of the Agricultural market. In creates economic incentives for local food-sheds. It increases prices that farmers get for their crops (which they need if the average income of a farmer in America is about 19,000/yr.)
    It breaks the destructive cycle feeding environmental destruction, cultural disintegration, corporate control of public policy, and on, and on.
    If we legitimize these people we continue this cycle which has been rolling over us for decades going back a hundred years. The pols are working hard for their corporate masters and they will come out soon on air, in print, and on the web to tell us all how important legitimizing illegals is, and how much it will save us in costs and how much benefit we get from it. Don’t believe the lies.

  379. Bustin Jay April 4, 2013 at 11:27 pm #

    “Its time that we recognize that the enemy is not our black, Chicano, or Hispanic brothers or sisters.”
    Its too bad that every opponent of immigration is lumped into a category that is then used to bash us by anyone who wants a piece of the action. They always have. They use it as a wedge to separate us from otherwise naive people who haven’t made a decision. They use fear of ostracization to keep them in their place.
    First, they use the old “slide your premise past ’em” tactic. The above quote is very much the same form as “when did you stop beating your wife”. They’ll use hot-button language to distract you from the logical and rational basis of their argument to cow you with strawmen, ad hominems, and anything else including scary words.
    Its a street fight out there and they are fighting dirty.

  380. xhalor April 4, 2013 at 11:27 pm #

    “I’m rooting for the Buddhists.”
    Well I’m rooting for the Humans.
    If only they could get their damnable rutting under control.
    I used to root for the Dodgers, but circumstances have changed.
    I keep looking around for all of these various gods, but all I can find are manipulative humans.
    I should probably stop posting here because I think that peak oil is a blessing.
    Not for the humans.
    Definitely for the polar bears.
    “Fuck the polar bears” you say?
    Well that’s not a very Buddhist point of view.
    Come to think of it, what kind view is it?
    I don’t think that I would ever say that out loud in a Polar Bear Bar.
    Unless I was holding my Polar Bear Gun.
    Thank Buddha for oil.

  381. Eleuthero5 April 4, 2013 at 11:49 pm #

    I am quite amused by Caroloka Assquist because I’ve never seen any human of either gender emasculate, demonize, belittle, and dehumanize every political stripe among CFN’s liberals and conservatives alike.
    This entity (or entities) is the angriest, most vile human being I’ve ever seen on any blog anywhere, anytime. It’s so over the top that it’s like a psychopath and a carnival barker rolled up into one psyche.
    Yet this “amusement” doesn’t last and, in the end, Assquist has ruined the blog just like Adequatioka did in the old days. She thinks that’s her job and, like Asoka, she’s got the free time to do it since she’s as useless to society as tits on a bull.

  382. Eleuthero5 April 4, 2013 at 11:51 pm #

    P4C quoting Caroloka Assquist who said:
    “….both groups are ready, willing, and able to kick your white asses. You might consider moving to, oh, I don’t know, Cypress.”
    Indeed, P4C, the entity doesn’t know the difference between a tree and a country as the spelling above shows. Yet the entity aspires to being published. It’s just another boring narrative writer.

  383. xhalor April 5, 2013 at 12:42 am #

    Former member of the Board of Directors for the Sierra Club and one of the founding members of Earth First, David Foreman, on population.

  384. jwqwjuego7 April 5, 2013 at 12:46 am #

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    J,gucci sunglasses.R. Smith scored 32 points and Carmelo Anthony added 29 as the Knicks rolled over the depleted Celtics 100-85 Tuesday night at TD Garden.

    The Celtics clearly missed Kevin Garnett and Courtney Lee, but the Knicks were not without their own injury issues. Tyson Chandler was out for New York, as is Amar’e Stoudemire, and resulting Knicks lineups included Kenyon Martin at center or no center at all. The Celtics matched with Brandon Bass or Jeff Green getting cracks in the middle. The Celtics allowed 15 offensive rebounds and forced just 8 Knicks turnovers. On their own end Boston committed 20 turnovers. Celtics starting point guard Avery Bradley did not have an assist.

    Jeff Green led the Celtics with 19 points and 10 rebounds,chanel outlet, but Green made just 6 of 14 shots. It was an off night for Paul Pierce, who finished with 16 points, 6 assists, and 6 turnovers. The Celtics have now lost five straight and face the Cleveland Cavaliers on the road Wednesday night.

    5:19 4th quarter, Knicks 93-76: Not sure why Paul Pierce is still in the game here. Avery Bradley having one of the worst games of his career with 4 points, 0 assists,monster beats by dre, 0 steals, and 1 turnover.

    8:48 4th quarter,coach factory online, Knicks 88-73: Fans haven’t started leaving yet, but they’re not exactly on their feet chanting “de-fense”, either. Pierce coming back to try to get it closer.

    End 3d quarter, Knicks 81-69: Smith hits what must have been a 30-footer to end the quarter, to oohs and ahhs from the crowd. He’s got 28 points.

    3:44 3d quarter, Knicks 74-62: Jason Kidd nails a 3-pointer. Remember when he couldn’t shoot? Maybe when Rajon Rondo hits his late 30’s he’ll become a dead-eye shooter.

    6:50 3d quarter, Knicks 67-60: Green has 9 points and 2 rebounds in 5 minutes as the Celtics have cut the lead to seven.

    9:42 3d quarter, Knicks 63-52: Jeff Green hits a long 3-pointer. Not part of the offensive game plan but the Celtics will take the points.

    Halftime, Knicks 58-44: The Knicks committed just two turnovers in the first half en en route to a 14-point lead at the break. Jordan Crawford is the only Celtic in double-figures with 11 points. The Celtics have nine turnovers. The Knicks have figured out how to get the shots they want.

    2:55 2d quarter, Knicks 49-39: The Celtics’ lack of starting-caliber talent is being exposed right now. They’re playing hard but can’t finish on offense, and New York is starting to get the shots they want.

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    7:14 2d quarter, Knicks 38-35: Paul Pierce has one field goal attempt so far,chanel earrings, which seems low.

    8:45 2d quarter, Knicks 33-31: Crawford takes his first awful shot of the night. Rivers said before the game that Smith was a member of the “All-Scare Team” because he scares both coaches. That shot clearly scared Rivers, enough to take Crawford out.

    Smith now has 15 points. The Celtics are shooting 52 percent and have 10 assists on 13 field goals but still trail. The Knicks lead in free throws, 9-2.

    End 1st quarter, Knicks 28-24: After a slow start by both teams, this game has turned into a shootout. Crawford is leading the way with 9 points on 4-of-5 shooting. J.R. Smith has 10 points for the Knicks,chanel purses, while Carmelo Anthony leads all scorers with 11. When the quarter ended Anthony and Jeff Green were playing center for their teams respectively.

    2:47 1st quarter, Celtics 18-17: Crawford stays in the game after the sub, Bradley sits down. Doc Rivers said before the game he likes Crawford’s passing ability. Saw it on a nifty assist before the timeout. He’s got 5 points and 1 assist,beats by dr dre.

    3:50 1st quarter, Celtics 14-12: The Celtics have yet to make a sub, but Chris Wilcox and Jason Terry are coming in at the next whistle. Lots of guard play in this game.

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    9:49 1st quarter, 0-0: No score. I miss KG.

    Pregame: Jordan Crawford will start tonight for the Celtics in place of Courtney Lee, Doc Rivers said before the game. Rivers asked Jason Terry to start but Terry said he preferred to come off the bench.

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  385. adequatio April 5, 2013 at 1:17 am #

    I am quite amused by Caroloka Assquist…
    You, E., are destroying this blog by your detached amusement, and your incessant commentary on an “entity” for which you have no idea of gender, race, sex, political persuasion, DoD employee or non-Dod employee or unemployed, etc.
    You have no idea what motivates the “entity” but that doesn’t stop your speculation and ad hominem attack and then you fall back on charged words like “evil” (which is actually amusing).
    You are so ignorant of what is going on that you are reduced to using “it” gender-neutral pronoun to describe the “entity,” while simultaneously keeping the focus off what the blog should be about.
    You, E., are the one destroying this blog with your obsession about one poster who no longer even posts here, with your constant fear-mongering, your cherry-picked data and economic exaggerations in all caps like “IT’S CRUNCH TIME!” that do not stand the test of time.

  386. xhalor April 5, 2013 at 1:21 am #

    So what kind of fucko copies the March 26 Boston Celtics blog coverage of the Knicks game, inserts unrelated advertising hotlinks, and posts it here?
    Is there a specific kind of fucko that does this?
    Or is it just an all-around fucko?

  387. progress4conserving April 5, 2013 at 1:42 am #

    “You have no idea what motivates the “entity” but that doesn’t stop your speculation and ad hominem attack and then you fall back on charged words like “evil” (which is actually amusing).”
    -asokadequatio, defending the Repellent Entity-
    Why would you do this, Soaker?
    Any of it at all?

  388. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 1:48 am #

    Foreman made an important point that most outdoor workers hated Nature. Even long distance hikers who do the Appalachian or Pacific Coast Trail are often using Nature as a forum for their own prowess. Rare is the soul who simply loves it for what it is.

  389. adequatio April 5, 2013 at 1:55 am #

    Do what? Who is “soaker”?
    You know less than E.
    You are destroying JHK’s blog with nonsense questions, an active disrespect of our host.

  390. Eleuthero5 April 5, 2013 at 2:03 am #

    Yes, let us all fall for the lie that you’re not Asoka. Then let us fall for other lies, aliases, sock puppets, and red herrings that you’d like to preoccupy us with. Yes, my average of one or two posts a day is “ruining” CFN but you and your aliases’ forty posts a day are manna from heaven for CFN members.
    Bill is so dispirited, and rightly so, at what you and Caroloka Assquist have done to the blog that he wants Jim to intervene. I’m certain Bill is NOT talking about me.

  391. Carol Newquist April 5, 2013 at 7:45 am #

    cultural disintegration
    Remember the commercial where the couple asks an architect to build a house around a designer faucet they’d recently purchased? That’s what you’ve done here. You’ve created a grandiose and greatly flawed analysis around the “heart” of your idea. The “culture” disintegrated long ago, and it’s a good thing it did. Not that what’s replaced it is ideal in any way, but there certainly should be no going back. There will be no going back. We may have a world made by hand again, but it won’t resemble the former Anglo world made by hand. The Fascists like yourself will attempt to burn it all down with your contemporary Völkisch Movement.

    In our zeal to condemn the status quo, radicals often carelessly toss about epithets like “fascist” and “ecofascist,” thus contributing to a sort of conceptual inflation that in no way furthers effective social critique. In such a situation, it is easy to overlook the fact that there are still virulent strains of fascism in our political culture which, however marginal, demand our attention. One of the least recognized or understood of these strains is the phenomenon one might call “actually existing ecofascism,” that is, the preoccupation of authentically fascist movements with environmentalist concerns. In order to grasp the peculiar intensity and endurance of this affiliation, we would do well to examine more closely its most notorious historical incarnation, the so-called “green wing” of German National Socialism.
    Despite an extensive documentary record, the subject remains an elusive one, underappreciated by professional historians and environmental activists alike. In English-speaking countries as well as in Germany itself, the very existence of a “green wing” in the Nazi movement, much less its inspiration, goals, and consequences, has yet to be adequately researched and analyzed. Most of the handful of available interpretations succumb to either an alarming intellectual affinity with their subject.” 2 or a naive refusal to examine the full extent of the “ideological overlap between nature conservation and National Socialism.” 3 This article presents a brief and necessarily schematic overview of the ecological components of Nazism, emphasizing both their central role in Nazi ideology and their practical implementation during the Third Reich. A preliminary survey of nineteenth and twentieth century precursors to classical ecofascism should serve to illuminate the conceptual underpinnings common to all forms of reactionary ecology.

  392. progress4conserving April 5, 2013 at 8:14 am #

    “Yes, let us all fall for the lie that you’re not Asoka. Then let us fall for other lies, aliases, sock puppets, and red herrings that you’d like to preoccupy us with.”
    -E5, to adequatio-
    Yeah, E, there can be ZERO DOUBT that “adequatio” and “asoka..” are posting aliases that originate from the same person. Style of writing and use of copy/paste without attribution are both PRECISELY the same for both screennames across space and time.
    Zero doubt.
    And I would venture to say that “adequatio’s” attack of you and me as he defends the “carols” is certainly a strong argument that those screennames ALSO originate with asoka…
    So, I don’t know – Beantown Bill.
    That’s a lot of “people” to ignore, since together these Repellent Entities, evidently from one person, comprise a large percentage of the blog traffic.
    So what does anyone think?
    Ozone, you especially, as this is my initial answer to your question, from two days ago, concerning motivations, etc for these attacks against JHK’s blog.
    More later.

  393. ComradeDystopia April 5, 2013 at 9:04 am #

    In CT we have pretty draconian gun regulations now but down in the Black section of Hartford, which means the whole city, 4 people were gunned down by gangbangers just this weekend. So I guess they didn’t get the Governors message about the latest gun control initiatives.
    An esteemed citizen who did apparently get the message loud and clear was a guy named Jose’ in Bristol, CT, who used a knife, not a gun, when he carved up his common law wife in front of their 4 children 2 nights ago. I’d say Jose deserves some credit for refraining from the ‘gun violence’ we are so worried about. Turns out he was here illegally, and was high on PCP, apparently one of the new citizens political parties are trying to court.

  394. Carol Newquist April 5, 2013 at 9:05 am #

    What color is this moron?
    Correct, he’s alabaster with a pinkish hue. He has sacrificed his life for fascism and fascists, and more than likely he doesn’t even know it. He’s helped to lay the groundwork for an ecofascist populist movement where radical left joins radical right in a revival of the antiquated German Völkisch Movement. United, they will be used by the the Plutocracy to take the focus off the real MAN behind the curtain. The first step in that process? Find suitable scapegoats, and it’s always the usual suspects; so-called minorities.

  395. Carol Newquist April 5, 2013 at 9:14 am #

    They’re being true to the Puritan spirit of that area. New England may be aesthetically pleasing to the eye, but the psychical fabric is bleak and sinister. All the residue of Puritan violence still lingers in the electrons that make up the molecules that make up the soil, grass, trees and most everything else you can touch, smell and see. I have never had a good feeling traveling through New England. It needs a heavy dose of transformation to eliminate the violent residue of its past, and the best way to accomplish that is via immigration.

  396. CaptSpaulding April 5, 2013 at 10:12 am #

    People here propose solutions to the problems we face, and (this is what makes me laugh), they don’t even know how to deal with a problem as simple as a troll. It’s not hard, just don’t feed him. But of course you can’t resist just one more response to him can you? I thought not.

  397. ozone April 5, 2013 at 10:46 am #

    Thanks, Bustin.
    Excellent math-grokking exercise, on top of a truly cool-headed look into the amazing foolishness of exponential breeding programs (liking to fuck, but not tending to the biological “aftereffects”).
    Everyone should read through it again and get their mind right about ecological collapse via rapine… never a fun way to go extinct; I’d much prefer a planet-killing meteor strike. ;o)

  398. ozone April 5, 2013 at 11:12 am #

    “So, I don’t know – Beantown Bill.
    That’s a lot of “people” to ignore, since together these Repellent Entities, evidently from one person, comprise a large percentage of the blog traffic.
    So what does anyone think?” -P4C
    I reiterate the question of “WHY?”.
    (Although I disagree that these attacks are the work of just one person, that’s neither here nor there when we come up against the “why” of it.)
    Is the present system so weakened and riddled with lies and corruption that it sees the need to disrupt the exchange of ideas on a “optimistic doomer” blog such as this? These are the covert, psy-op actions of desperation, and a explicit indication of imminent collapse. (“Hearts and minds” and all that shit. Remember?)
    …It also takes a certain type of personality (or lack thereof) to take on the job of paid deceiver and manipulator. (Let’s see what one of them says/doesn’t say about the matter when their shift commences in about an hour.)

  399. ozone April 5, 2013 at 11:27 am #

    So, just how successful is that hearts-and-minds bullshittery going in these golden days of empire? Any news from Iraq, the land of love and freedom’s blessings? Libya? Afpak? ….Anybody? …Anywhere?
    LBJ in classic liar mode in service of Big Bid’nez; taken from the Wiki entry:
    ” His use of the phrase is most commonly taken from the speech “Remarks at a Dinner Meeting of the Texas Electric Cooperatives, Inc.” on 4 May 1965. On that evening he said, “So we must be ready to fight in Viet-Nam, but the ultimate victory will depend upon the hearts and the minds of the people who actually live out there. By helping to bring them hope and electricity you are also striking a very important blow for the cause of freedom throughout the world.”[2]
    I’d say that’s pretty casually cynical, but it points right to the stygian center of the fascist ideal, doesn’t it?

  400. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject April 5, 2013 at 12:57 pm #

    Hey Zone. how goes it? A nice piece from Escobar today on the formation of new alliances in the Global South. How the BRICS and MIIST might manuever to thwart the petro-dollar in coming years is of increasing interest. Let me know what you think:
    “What is definitely known by now by the best minds in Asia, Africa and Latin America, is that there was never an end of history, as parroted by pathetic orphans of Hegel; and there was never an end of geography, as parroted by “world is flat” globalization dancing fools. The Global South’s intellectual liberation from the North is finally on. And it’s irreversible. There’s no turning back to the old order. If this was a movie, it would be 1968 replayed all over again – full time, all the time; let’s be realists, and demand, and implement, the impossible.” – Escobar
    So much in that article is entirely new to me, but the reason I’m drawn to the material is because there is a lot of chatter on the net regarding the construct of so called pre-WW3 alliances as the Global North’s economic infrastructure seemingly continues to crumble. I’m referring to Obama’s recent mending of relations between Turkey and Israel as a small example of such alliances being solidified.
    Of course, listening to certain pundits here at home can also leave one with the counter idea that it’s the BRICS who are most afraid of deteriorating economic prospects, what with the new energy abundance bestowed upon the dominate U.S. and allies. Hard to juggle all these competing ideas, as I’m admittedly behind the curve in background comprehension. Who the fuck knows, right? I’m at once confused and fascinated. Thanks for the assist.
    Later man,

  401. progress4conserving April 5, 2013 at 1:10 pm #

    “…they don’t even know how to deal with a problem as simple as a troll. It’s not hard, just don’t feed him.” -cs-
    Mia Culpa, Mon Capitan.
    I’ll say two things in my defense:
    1. The Repellent Entity, RE, (aka asoka/”carol”) is a very talented troll. The shifts of perspective, faux reasonableness, and verbal provocations have tempted better thinkers than this humble poster to respond – repeatedly.
    Also, someone needs to work to corral the RE, and point out to all and sundry that it is nothing but a pure “peak everything” website troll – albeit a talented one.
    2. The RE does prompt some very thoughtful posts, like it or not. Bustin Jay, for example, worked up a masterpiece last night concerning the disaster of amnesty and continued immigration.
    Without the Entity, I doubt Bustin would have presented all of those facts and figures for all of us to enjoy.
    So, we may dislike the Repellent Entity.
    We may corral it successfully in third person.
    Or we may choose to attempt to ignore it.
    But it serves a (useful?) purpose, here at CFN.

  402. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject April 5, 2013 at 1:29 pm #

    You said it, sir!
    But damn, it’s hard to get past the spam in order to find the meat that’s worthy for chewing.

  403. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject April 5, 2013 at 1:50 pm #

    I stand guilty of being part of the younger generation basically indoctrinated to the positive side of the idea of multiculturalism, who also once believed the anti-immigration proponents to be simplistically and only ignorantly racist. I stand corrected after having reviewed the dialogue about this topic on this blog for these few months. Jeremy Grantham, another “numbers guy” I deeply respect, demonstrates the same idea you present here as it is occurring in other parts of the globe; specifically, as China continues to grow a desire for meat which taxes food production systems and general ecology in devastating fashion. I’m just starting to see the implications and it’s quite disturbing to think that no meaningful reform is being proposed in the U.S. or anywhere.
    Right on for Bustin’ through the fecal matter of dialogue on this site.

  404. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 1:52 pm #

    That’s why we have to give it right back to them. Ask them what they have against the White Race? Why do they want to make us a minority in our own Country – and all of our Countries. Always go on the offensive, that’s their secret.
    Conservatives by definition are on the defense – losers in other words. Three times the Normans charged the Saxon shield wall at the Battle of Hastings. Twice they were thrown back. If the Saxons had charged they might have had the Day. But they were committed to defense and thus to defeat. On the third charge the Normans broke through.
    And of course, you have to have something TO conserve as well – beyond your own portfolio that is. Thus current Conservatism lacks the moral high ground. Fascism on the other hand is aggressive and stands for much. It can match these demons stroke for stroke.

  405. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 1:55 pm #

    How can you so casually betray your friend Carol? You loved her being a bitch last week! I’ll never forget you and her bitchin back and forth as you knitted.

  406. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 2:00 pm #

    Michelle calls herself a single mother. Is anything real about these people?

  407. Carol Newquist April 5, 2013 at 2:08 pm #

    I’d much prefer a planet-killing meteor strike. ;o)
    I’d much prefer those like you and Bustin, who believe the ecological problems the planet faces are because of too many people and improper breeding, be the first to off yourselves in the little eugenics exercise you’re implying. Wouldn’t that be the valiant and honorable thing to do? I think it would, and I’d even be willing to assist you if you needed help. Put your money where your mouth is and lead by example. Put one of your guns to your head, pull the trigger and make the world a better place. Please. If not, then shut the hell up you hypocrite.

  408. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 2:08 pm #

    One of the great victories of the Left was to get Conservatives to say Race doesn’t matter – and spend the last fifty years falling all over themselves to make that true and throw out all dissenters. Of course Race matters: the Left doesn’t believe that for a second. Whites don’t exist but they sure can be discriminated against. And people who don’t exist have no collective rights. And everything is collective rights now – the old laws based on individual responsibility prove yawns and glazed eyes from the current diseased crop of college students.
    Everything you love comes from Whites – most certainly environmentalism. Do you think African are going to save their own Lions and Elephants? They go along with it only because Whites care so much and it brings in tourist money.

  409. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject April 5, 2013 at 2:23 pm #

    You’re an idiot. You’re consistently wrong in your assertions about nearly everything, but because you can turn a phrase admirably you’ve earned respect from like minded shitheads.
    Feel free to continue to pretend the profundity of your mental faculty. But your writing is only an abyss of incongruent literary self-affirmations. You have earned yourself an audience in the form of a few measly venereal parasites who feed your desperate ego. Sorry that I’m not one of your “friends.” With friends like you, who needs crabs.

  410. Rhino April 5, 2013 at 2:34 pm #

    So does anyone need any more convincing that no matter who sits in the White House they are ventriloquist’s dummies for Wall Street?
    I keep hearing how gun rights and widespread gun ownership are the guarantor of liberty. Maybe someone can educate me on this because I don’t get it. Because it seems to me that those cockroaches operating the Wall Street wrecking balls (with the connivance of their boys in Washington) are not in the least afraid of all the guns. And, given the destruction they’ve wrought, you’d think they would be.
    Seems to me that your country has been ripped out from under your feet regardless. And, given the this new appointment, Wall Street is gearing up to do the job north of the border.

  411. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 2:34 pm #

    You loved Carol but now betray her because the other Liberals here do. That shows your character just as much as your love for her did. Disloyal. Always looking out of the corner of your eye to see what others are doing since you lack the courage of your own convictions.
    You are still young and can change. But first you have to admit to yourself what you are. We are a Fallen Species. Join up and stop pretending you’re better than others when you’re clearly not.

  412. Carol Newquist April 5, 2013 at 2:35 pm #

    Just as Bustin is wrong in his conclusions. Overbreeding and overpopulation aren’t the source of our ecological woes, overconsumption is. Eugenicists like to argue otherwise.
    Consumption Dwarfs Population as Main Environmental Threat

    We cannot be sure how the global economic downturn will play out. But let us assume that Jeffrey Sachs, in his book Common Wealth, is right to predict a 600 percent increase in global economic output by 2050. Most projections put world population then at no more than 40 percent above today’s level, so its contribution to future growth in economic activity will be small.
    Of course, economic activity is not the same as ecological impact. So let’s go back to carbon dioxide emissions. Virtually all of the extra 2 billion or so people expected on this planet in the coming 40 years will be in the poor half of the world. They will raise the population of the poor world from approaching 3.5 billion to about 5.5 billion, making them the poor two-thirds.
    Sounds nasty, but based on Pacala’s calculations — and if we assume for the purposes of the argument that per-capita emissions in every country stay roughly the same as today — those extra two billion people would raise the share of emissions contributed by the poor world from 7 percent to 11 percent.

    It is nothing short of malicious duplicity to blame the ecological damage on the poor, and yet that is precisely what Bustin is doing, and now you’re in league with him. Of course, you always were. Your role here is to play this naive outsider who just happened to drop by and be persuaded by the racist, eugenicist ecofascism proffered by the creeps here. Nice try. I figured early on it was what you were all about. I was right. I always am.

  413. Rhino April 5, 2013 at 2:37 pm #

    It may well be the old Assoka. And maybe also the poster Adequatio. See AMR’s take on it.
    Shun this POS. Do not read, engage or reply to it. DoD or not, whoever is behind it is up to no good.

  414. Rhino April 5, 2013 at 2:43 pm #

    Thanks for the kind words. You ought to post more. This place could use your incisive analysis. Many other good posters have either quit this site or cut down on their commentary. Alexandra, Patrizia, Laura, Myrtlemay, Jackieblue and others seem to have gone away. Too bad.

  415. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 2:48 pm #

    You’re right. We suck. We should have risen when they used bayonets to integrate Little Rock, Arkansas. If we had gone on strike and shut the Country down, we might have taken it back peacefully. But now it’s very late in the day. Hopefully not too late. Remember Churchill’s saying about sweat, tears, and blood. We are at the tears stage. Hopefully it wont go to the next.
    Let me throw the question back on you just as we should on Race. Why is disarming us so important to them? Surely you don’t think they really care about those kids? They care about what might happen to them if they start dipping into our bank accounts. Do you know what a sniper can do, Rhino? Here read about Juba, the famous Iraqi sniper. Now translate this to an American City.
    You have no idea how you sound to us. Your chains are showing, Canadian. Registration, Confiscation, Extermination. Any question? No? Then why is Bill Ayers so admired by the Obama Administration? He said that 25 million would have to die. He’s never repented of that – or anything else.

  416. Carol Newquist April 5, 2013 at 2:49 pm #

    Seems to me that your country has been ripped out from under your feet regardless.
    It was never “their” country. Ever. The REAL revolution never took place. The U.S. Revolution taught in the history books was for an independent Oligarchy in North America, nothing more.
    Completing The American Revolution

    “The Framers of the Constitution had no wish to usher in democracy in the United States. They were not making war upon the principle of aristocracy and they had no more intention than had the Tories of destroying the tradition of upper-class leadership in the colonies. Although they hoped to turn the Tories out of office, they did not propose to open these lush pastures to the common herd. They did believe, however, that the common people, if properly bridled and reined, might be made allies in the work of freeing the colonies from British rule and that they–the gentry–might reap the benefits without interference. They expected, in other words, to achieve a ‘safe and sane’ revolution of gentlemen, by gentlemen, and for gentlemen.”
    John C. Milller. (1943). Origins of the American Revolution

  417. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject April 5, 2013 at 2:50 pm #

    This is the paradox I’m baffled by. I think you’re partly right, but I think what Bustin’ speaks to is the systemic paradigm as well as the symptomatic issues.
    If the systemic problems weren’t generating the the symptoms which conduce to what I understand as an irreconcilable positive feedback loop, it might indeed be possible to provide the level of inclusive well-being I think you’re arguing for. Maybe it is possible to provide for all the needs of a huge global population, as the “utopians” suggest, but I don’t think any present social or economic system allows for that outcome.
    I’m presently in the middle of a personal paradigm shift and know fuck all about most of this stuff, so my thoughts now are admittedly rudimentary.

  418. Bustin Jay April 5, 2013 at 2:52 pm #

    UFIA sed, “China continues to grow a desire for meat which taxes food production systems and general ecology in devastating fashion. I’m just starting to see the implications and it’s quite disturbing to think that no meaningful reform is being proposed in the U.S. or anywhere.”
    Especially not the U.S. because, as the world is essentially valued only as an economic set, China represents customers.
    The entire U.S. agricultural enterprise stands to benefit from increased Chinese participation in the global food system- that is- “non-local” food, aka the 12,000 mile Caesar Salad, a cash balance to the trade deficit. We are building something like 1-5 McDonalds or KFC’s every day in China, bring the “Drive-Thru” to masses of people for whom there is no cultural precedent in terms of sheer energy waste. This is at least, an identifiable cultural character defect, since so much of it is visible all over the American landscape. We see in them what we were- naive believers in a way of life that celebrates the present moment, and nothing else.
    Less visible to western eyes is the Giant Vacuum Cleaner that China’s OTHER culturally defective aspect represents. This aspect of Chinese culture links such things as inherent “qualia” of objects (of typically biological origin) to neo-paleolithic concepts of anthropomorphic correlation, and combines with the sophistry of “traditional medicine” in a full-spectrum kind of consumptive cult which, generally, sees the world and the things in it as directly absorb-able into the physical body.
    It is, in effect an eating cult that has nothing to do with nutrition or nourishment, and everything to do with the acquiring of supernatural powers. Eye of Newt, Gall-Bladder of Endangered Tortoise, Hind-legs of insect, Wing of butterfly… are all widely consumed. Virtually anything that is a non-human entity on the macro-scale is sold on the streets as a treat, and the rarer, the better, for reasons of social status more-so than any inherent reason.
    This global force of millions of limp dicks and defective uteri are like a cloud of dark energy flowing across the planet, leaving destruction in its wake. Wherever it touches a temporary and destructive economic cycle ensues which results in depletion and extinction. And the U.S.A. has fed this beast with its trade and dollars.
    The reason African elephants are going extinct is due to this, also many other species. Overpopulation drives desperation, and hard currency provides the spark to, say, a stick of dynamite thrown in a reflecting pool which garners a harvest of hundreds of rare fish.
    A global shipping industry of refrigerated air-freight burns fossil fuels to put them on the dinner plates in Shanghai and Guangzhou in 24 hours. Whose best interests does this represent? To the average Chinese person, in their overpopulated wasteland of dog-eat-dog state capitalism, it is justified because to them, life and freedom don’t mean much. Neither does life or nature. This is the problem with cultures that evolve with values from transcendental religion. They don’t value sustainability because everything is dust or ether. The don’t value posterity because life has some predicted final endpoint.
    Yes, I am implying that Americans aren’t really different. We need 30 million new Catholic citizens in this country, feeding on what remains of the natural world like we need a hole in the head. What my philosophy pushes back against is the aggregate mass of billions of traded shares, a dark energy which is part of a cultural destiny they are dying to share with each and every one of you, and, along the way, seduce you with dreams of Big Screen TVs, giant erections, and plastic tits.

  419. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 2:56 pm #

    You love women too much. Read the old Romans like Cato the Elder and be chastened.

  420. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 3:01 pm #

    Yes one man sued a dancer after he suffered a concussion from her hitting him in the head with her gigantic silicone tit – which was as large as her head and must have weighted many pounds.

  421. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject April 5, 2013 at 3:02 pm #

    Join up and stop pretending you’re better than others when you’re clearly not.
    Back atcha. Keep pinchin’ crab. Your astrological lover JCL will soon be along to scratch your itch. Maybe you’ll talk yourself out of your own hypocrisy soon, if you go back and read your own blatant contradictions that is.

  422. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 3:05 pm #

    What a snobette you are. I’m glad you and Carol are BFF’s again.

  423. Carol Newquist April 5, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

    We need 30 million new Catholic citizens in this country, feeding on what remains of the natural world like we need a hole in the head.
    You’re a crafty devil, I’ll give you that. Your prose is poetic and designed to cloak your main message. You aptly describe the Egregore of Consumption, and then, near the end, you drop this in for good measure when it’s what you really intended all along.
    It’s already been established and argued ad nauseum by your comrades here that the middle class, if you can call it that, in the U.S. is slated for destruction, so these additional people will be poor and won’t be enjoying that planet devouring lifestyle any more than any of you will be in twenty to thirty years. It doesn’t matter whether they come, or stay at home, your fate will remain the same. By that time, they won’t want to come anyway. There will be no incentive, and by that time you’ll be wanting to migrate yourself, and if you were to have your way right now, that possibility wouldn’t be available because of your blindly zealous politicking for your own future chains.

  424. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 3:18 pm #

    Thanks a lot Carol, for putting this meatball chuckle head in his place. Carol dot dot dot

  425. Bustin Jay April 5, 2013 at 3:21 pm #

    Carl sez, “…It is nothing short of malicious duplicity to blame the ecological damage on the poor, and yet that is precisely what Bustin is doing…”
    Speaking of straw man arguments…
    The article you cite is worth reading, especially the comments section where the paradoxes of population growth and consumption are discussed.
    As an example of argumentative judo, though, I will use your argument against you, and rub your nose in the implications:
    If you think that an American uses approximately 10 times the resources of the average Mexican, and you are making 30 million Mexicans into Americans, aren’t you increasing the total resource use by a factor of 10? In terms of resource use or carbon emissions, it makes sense to:
    1. Reduce resource intensity in developed nations,
    2. Maintian low levels of resource intensity in “developing” nations.
    Of course we’re not doing that, are we. We are not exported any kind of low-intensity culture to the 3rd world- we are exporting high-intensity culture.
    Build a national network of highways! (Halliburton). Buy/manufacture the personal automobiles (GM). A big screen in every room (Samsung). A KFC drive-thru across the street from the Bodega (McD). For the peasant farmers, plow that land and clear them trees (Cat, John Deere). Accept these plastic-wrapped chunks of Fat and Sugar decorated with children’s cartoon characters (Walt Disney Co., Kraft, et al). Plant monocrops made from recombinant patented DNA technologies instead of those heirloom varietes (Monsanto). All this profit will go toward maintaining high levels of resource use here (~2.) and increasing levels of resource use there (~1.)
    All this is very obvious. I = P x A x T holds true, and nothing in the present moment indicates that population is anything other than a multiplier of ecological impact.
    Over the years, Yale has produced a few geniuses, a few great humanitarians, and tons of completely empty personalities inhabiting wool suits who don’t have a clue what the value of anything is. Bureaucrats, politicians, ad executives, and stock-market opportunists, including GW Bush.
    For this guy to claim that Consumption dwarfs population is putting the cart before the horse. Thats a fallacy of reasoning, btw. When you’re talking about threats to the environment, I think they are all connected, and you can’t isolate a key symptom to attack. You must attack them all to have any effect. We can’t say, lets ignore a thousand molehills because that mountain is a thousand feet high. Take your eyes off the molehills and they all become mountains. Once this extra 5 billion surplus population exists, the problem of consumption will be just as bad as ever.

  426. Bustin Jay April 5, 2013 at 3:27 pm #

    Carl sayeth “There will be no incentive, and by that time you’ll be wanting to migrate yourself, and if you were to have your way right now, that possibility wouldn’t be available because of your blindly zealous politicking for your own future chains.”
    I’m sorry I haven’t consumed enough of your particular flavor of Coca-cola to understand your conclusion (or your premises).

  427. Bustin Jay April 5, 2013 at 3:38 pm #

    Carlsburg cheese: “(Bustin believes) the ecological problems the planet faces are because of too many people and improper breeding…”
    So? Am I wrong?
    A new golden age of Eugenics is coming along with 3D paper: recombinant DNA analysis in vitro. The “disgusting creeps” of the Eugenics movement will be gratified to hear that their idea was developed quite by accident and promulgated by the rational realization that having an offspring with defective genes or too many chromosomes isn’t a Gift from God, but a living, breathing, drooling carcass.
    Birth and reproduction is rightly a species of vanity. And no one believes in the vanity of giving birth to a retarded person. When that happens, they call it a special gift from god, and a delightful burden with tons of life lessons etc.
    In this way humanity demonstrates its unique ability to put high gloss on turds. The future is eugenics, and the alternative is barbarism of a particularly distasteful kind: a species of thought which thinks inflicting people with the disabling characteristics of weak constitution or average intelligence is doing them some sort of noble favor.

    Too many people + improper breeding = Uninhabitable planet

  428. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject April 5, 2013 at 3:40 pm #

    Bustin’ wrote:
    It is, in effect an eating cult that has nothing to do with nutrition or nourishment, and everything to do with the acquiring of supernatural powers. Eye of Newt, Gall-Bladder of Endangered Tortoise, Hind-legs of insect, Wing of butterfly… are all widely consumed. Virtually anything that is a non-human entity on the macro-scale is sold on the streets as a treat, and the rarer, the better, for reasons of social status more-so than any inherent reason.
    This conjured an image of a gigantic dragnet scouring the Earth’s surfaces and depths with a type of supernatural farce which seems unstoppable. Makes one want to vomit.
    Are there any countervailing forces other than suicidal nuclear war or the heavy hand of nature that could stop it? How likely is population to slow rationally? We can probably say that consumption isn’t likely to slow if our current monetary system remains in place. In other words, what is the flip side of this coin, Jay. Is there one that is practical? Or are events already in motion and that’s that? Have our species sealed the door of fate? JHK’s “life is tragic” saying comes to mind. I know post-modernists will say that we get to choose our own reality, but I’d rather face shit with my eyes open. Thought
    provoking as usual, man.

  429. Carol Newquist April 5, 2013 at 3:49 pm #

    To your former world, say farewell
    This rising tide you will not quell
    You’ll cling with all yer might
    In desperation to allay yer fright
    Listen, it’s your world’s death knell

  430. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 3:50 pm #

    Heil Bustin! Hail Victory! (Seig Heil) The Chinese are forging ahead with Human Eugenics. And the Jews have bee practicing it in a natural way for thousands of years. It’s time for us to get into the race or else face a Gene Shaft Gap.
    You have revealed One (there are many) of the gaping holes of Liberalism. Man is an animal they say, yet somehow the rules of genetics don’t apply, certainly not to the brain. It’s alright for some to admit Blacks are faster and often bigger and stronger, but admit that Whites and East Asians are smarter? Off to the Unemployment line. Or divorce court if cup cake doesn’t like it – and few do since they believe what Oprah tells them.

  431. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 3:51 pm #

    Now back to my tail…
    So I’m finishing off my third screwdriver of the morning with around $800-$900 dollars worth of chips in front of me at the blackjack table. I’m starting to lose. A little teeny tiny voice inside me says, “Carolnewquisdotdotdot, you really ought to quit while you’ve still got some dough.” So the dealer gets ready to give me another card when I feel someone tapping me on the shoulder. It’s the casino pit boss and he’s with a cop. They tell me to collect my winnings and they proceed to escort me out to the hotel lobby. Right about now I’m starting to get the squirts because I haven’t had any solid food since the night before and I’m drinking on an empty stomach (not to mention that I’m coked up as hell).
    So I’m trying to cross my legs so as not to let fly all over the marble and granite lobby and I manage to ask the cop what the big deal is. Well, it seems that the hotel room I spent the night in belonged to none other than the late, great comic, Greg Giraldo. Seems he had finished doing my friend in the bedroom and walked her to the door. He must have noticed the huge dent I made in his pile of snow and gotten really pissed. He reported to the cops that I had stolen $1,000! Thereby getting me arrested for grand larceny! The cop starts to read me my Miranda rights.
    Anyways, the cop put some cuffs on me and we walked out to his patrol card. It’s beginning to dawn on me that I am really and truly fucked. As I the cop’s partner puts his hand on top of my head and places me in the back of the car, I begin to panic as the effects of the coke start to slowly wear off.
    We pull into the Las Vegas Detention Center, a really ratty looking building that I’m gonna nominate for Kunstler’s next Eyesore of the Month. I enter a huge “Processing Room” littered with other degenerates and the place has an acrid smell of piss and ammonia. I truly feel like I’m going to heave. I ask the lady at the Processing desk if I can use the bathroom and she allows me to do so. I get a look at my self in the “mirror” (they don’t have real mirrors in their I guess to keep people from busting it and pulling out a shard to make a weapon or kill themselves – although if ever I was gonna kill myself, this would be the venue of choice.) I am allowed one phone call so I ring Caesar’s front desk and after not getting my friend I leave a message about where I am and to please come get me.
    Next thing I know, after waiting around for about an hour or so I get printed, booked, and given my new home, a temporary unit they put you in before you get stripped, de-loused, fumigated, and given a one piece new outfit colored a flurescent orange. My new cellmate is Kristen, who informs me that she’s in for a DDC. I looked at her funny and she started to get pissed off, shouting at me that she is gonna slice my throat open and cut me “really bad” if I don’t stop disrespecting her. I swallow hard as I clearly do not want this to happen and I wonder what, if anything, I should say next. Finally I can’t help myself and tell her I’m in for grand larceny, thinking that will make me sound tough.
    So Kristen says, “When I want to know what the fuck your in here for, I’ll ask you, bitch!”
    So I’m getting the idea that Kristen and I are not going to be really close friends so I decide to keep my mouth shut, but not before asking what a DDC is. Kristen looks at me like I’m really stupid and says “Fuggin drunk and disorderly conduct, maaan!” Then she seems to start warming up to me and tells me how her “old man” called the cops on her after she caught him messing around with her roommate. Seems the three of them had been drinking and smoking crack last night and she and her boyfriend got into some argument. She started to hit and slap him and he must have ended up locking her out of the house. Well Kristen got really pissed and started screaming at the top of her lungs. The neighbors called the cops, and anyways that’s how Kristen got in the slammer.
    As I look around the cell, a woman cop escorts a middle age black woman into our cell. Later that day I learn that Kristen and my new neighbor, Mavis, is in for murder.
    My tail to be continued…

  432. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 4:10 pm #

    My tail continued…………………………………
    Mavis was a light skinned black woman I guessed to be around 45 or 50, although it’s always been hard for me to tell a black person’s age. She was tiny, about five feet tall and probably about 100 pounds. Her face had deep pockmarks and a scar on her cheek about an inch and a half long in the face of a cross. Afterward I learned that a gang member had cut her when she was about 16 because she had “double crossed” her.
    Mavis was much friendlier than Kristen and we were getting along well together. I was beginning to wonder if my friend would ever come and get my ass out of jail. I had no way of telling the time, but I swear it felt like 8 to 10 hours.
    My tail to be continued…………..

  433. dale April 5, 2013 at 4:25 pm #

    Well of all things, Gwyneth Paltrow showed up at the opening of her business partner’s workout studio in Bel Air wearing a pair of shoes that still had the price tags on them!
    Sign of the apocalypse? Failure of ‘white pride’? Harried upper class on the verge of collapse? Gwyneth wanting to resell her shoes? No doubt, some of you have the answers.

  434. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 5:13 pm #

    My tail continued………………..
    Mavis and I were talking and getting to be pretty chummy. Even though she was in for a murder charge, she kept saying, “I’m in here for murder, but I dint do it.” The realization that I was chatting up a possible murderer was beginning to dawn on me. Just then we all were served “dinner” which consisted of creamed corn, a grayish, green, thin slice of “Salisbury steak”, peas that looked as though they were dried and then re-hydrated with dirty dish water, “mashed potatoes” that hadn’t been completely mixed so that a puddle of water appeared in the middle, and a half pint of low fat milk. All served on a delightful Styrofoam tray complete with a prepackaged spork, napkin, and tiny straw. Yum!
    Well, I about hurled just looking at this garbage and indeed ran to the combo toilet/sink and dry heaved into the stainless steal, poo-encrusted bowl as Mavis held my blonde tresses back from the bowl.
    As I made my way toward the steel “bed” which was attached to the wall, with no blanket, no sheet, no pillow, I crawled into a fetal position and started to cry, my head rested on Mavis’ lap.
    Mavis caressed my head and spoke soothingly to me and I amazingly drifted off into a sound sleep, only to be awakened by words that jolted me out of my semi-conscious state.
    My tail to be continued………………..

  435. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 5:34 pm #

    For example Bill, “carol” once forcefully said that you weren’t Jewish (or not Jewish enough for “carol”?) because of your views on reducing US immigration. She’s stereotyping you by ethnic group and using the stereotype to try to force you to shut up on the subject. PG4C to bill
    Yes, she does that! You nailed her good!

  436. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 6:07 pm #

    My tail continued…………………
    Like an angel’s voice, my jailer said, “Your out of here, somebody’s set bail.”
    I can’t remember whether I jumped off the “bed” or floated up, but I never felt more relieved in my life.
    I went to the desk, signed for the contents of the bag that contained my things, and an agreement that explained I had to be back in Vegas for a hearing over the charge of “grand theft”. Well, I probably would have signed a confession to being a member of Al-Queda at that point, so desperate was I to get out of that hell hole and away from my two “roomies”.
    As I walked to the room with the matron, I saw my friend. I probably crushed her ribs and lifted her off the floor. My friend explained to me on the way to her car that she had a bit of difficulty coming up with the two grand it cost for the bail bondsman and when she finally did get to the correctional center, they at first claimed I wasn’t there.
    As I was later to find out, there was a glitch in the paperwork being put into the computer database and the clerk at the front desk had erroneously told her that I was not at that location. This little misunderstanding caused me to spend about 2 and 1/2 hours more in their “keeping cell” than I otherwise would have.
    The first thing I wanted to do was to take a long, hot shower, scrub the dank layer of crud that I felt on my skin, and wash whatever remained of the dried up puke out of my hair.
    When I exited the shower from our suite at Caesar’s, my friend started to tell me about how we happened to end up in Greg Giraldo’s room at the Luxor, none of which I remembered having had a serious blackout that night.
    My tail to be continued…………………

  437. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 6:55 pm #

    My tail continued……………………
    As I sat in the bed completely naked, allowing my loofah to breathe and get some air, I listened intently to my friend as to how we ever ended up in Greg Giraldo’s room at the Mirage when the last thing I remembered from that evening was sitting in an auditorium mesmerized by both Liberace and the beautiful candelabras lit on either side of his gorgeous white piano.
    The night started out innocently enough, with my friend and I watching some stupid lounge lizard doing a cheap imitation of Tony Orlando and Dawn. We both were drinking cosmopolitans when an old guy across the lounge started buying us rounds. We probably downed about thirteen before getting tired of his bullshit and told him truthfully that we had a show to catch on the strip. We left the lounge and got the doorman to hail us a cab.
    About this same time, unbeknown to us, Greg Giraldo was performing at a venue, across town with some of his buddies. I think it was Planet Hollywood, or House of Blues, but I honestly can’t remember. Well, Greg turned out to be a very big partier, and by the time we were leaving Liberace’s show, a standing ovation is the last time I have any remembrance of that night, my friend and I happened to cross paths with Greg and his comic pals in the lobby. I wish that I could tell you who they were, but as I said, I really don’t remember anything about it at all.
    What started out as a having a few drinks in Greg’s suite with some of his entourage turned out to be a major coke party, with booze flowing and lots of other girls finding their homes on some of the best comic talents’ laps that Vegas had to offer at the time.
    My tail to be continued…………..

  438. Beantownbill April 5, 2013 at 7:12 pm #


  439. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 7:32 pm #

    Well, I guess things must have carried on for quite some time before I eventually passed out on the couch and woke up in the state I described previously.
    Except now I am able to fill in the holes that were missing from my story. Greg obviously bedded my friend, leaving me drunk and passed out on the couch. After I had left, the two of them got up and wondered where I’d wandered off to. They thought maybe I’d disappeared with one of Greg’s comic friends much earlier.
    Greg, after giving my friend cab fare to Caesar’s, evidently noticed that a great deal of his coke was now gone, along with the bill used with which to snort it. He must have gone ape shit, “hoovered” the rest of it, and called security, telling them that I had stolen around one thousand dollars off the bar.
    Well, being a casino/hotel, Luxor has cameras all over the place. It didn’t take them long to find footage of me not only leaving Greg’s room, but gambling out on the casino floor. By the time the footage of me came out of me at the blackjack table, with a stack of chips of about $1,000.00, it looked to the hotel detective as though they had caught their man, err, I mean, woman.
    Next….Carolnewquistdotdotdot vs. Greg Giraldo in court………………………..
    My tail to be continued……………………….

  440. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 8:53 pm #

    Well, you’ve heard it said that all the world loves a lover. I guess the world must love me cause I sure do love the world and my experiences in it. I even embrace the bad (jail, charges of grand larceny, no – grand theft – the truth really WAS that it was grand larceny cause I snorted a hell of a lot more than $1k in coke).
    But as I said and will always say, I embrace all the times, good and bad, because they have helped make me whom I am, CarolNewquist…
    Getting back to the case of Greg vs. carolnewquist… I flew into Vegas as required by tort of law and took a cab to my attorney’s office to the seedy side of the strip. I didn’t have the funds to stay at one of the better casino/hotels, so I stayed at a place called the Frontier, a seedy hovel right across from my attorney. I had heretofore only talked to him over the phone (before Skype) and was really surprised to see such a sleazy, douchebag looking lawyer sitting at a faux wood desk. But hey, what was I expecting. I mean, Vegas, right????
    Next, Carol’s Big “Don’t Make My Day”, punk…
    CarolNewquist’s tail continues………….

  441. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 9:25 pm #

    CarolNewquistdotdotdot THE FINAL CHAPTER………..
    Greg never showed up for the hearing. It therefore never went to trial and the case was dismissed. And I had gone to the trouble to secure an attorney, buy an off-white Chanel pantsuit, which looked great on me, and a pair of open-toed “Scandals” with a sling back and “f-ck me” pumps, accentuating my firm, round cheeks. I don’t usually frost my hair, but my tan was so exquisite, I felt it was worth the time and expense.
    All of this and, Greg never appeared. I was just relieved that the whole ordeal was over and didn’t think about it for a couple of years. Until the day I was reading the National Enquirer and learned that Greg had been found dead of an apparent prescription drug overdose.
    I couldn’t help wondering if maybe one of the prescription drugs Greg was so fond of somehow made it into one of my drinks. Maybe that’s why I couldn’t remember anything about that night. I suppose I’ll never know.
    THE END of Carol’s tail

  442. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 9:43 pm #

    The next offering I have to share is a story I’m fond of called, ****A Christmas Carolnewquist”. It involves a beautiful, successful interior designer who is so caught up in her business and career, that she fails to see the people around her, past, present, and future, who want nothing more than to adore her.
    Soon to come…chapter 1, “Oh, Come Let Us Adore Her”.
    teaser…”It was a cold and snowy night in Manhattan when she turned her head away from the dog who was, by permission of it’s owner, allowed to poop on Lexington Avenue. She really hated that, and the little dog too. “Thank god we don’t have to watch people do that.” she said to herself. With that she gathered her silk scarf about her neck and headed into a nearby Starbucks.”
    End teaser…

  443. progress4conserving April 5, 2013 at 10:04 pm #

    There’s a new Fred. Fred, likely, knows more about marrying 3rd world women than I will ever know in this lifetime, and hopefully, in any future lifetimes, as well.
    And anyone with the intelligence of a sponge from a gourd will recognize that a new Fred is better than the illicit soft-porn blatherings of the Repellent Entity. – – “Sigh,” indeed, btb.
    “Seventh, and we will have more to say about this, they are, to put it mildly, family-oriented. Most will have mothers, fathers, sisters. You too will have them. This means that your lady may not be real portable. Be prepared to deal with it. I know many men who have taken wives out of their native countries, but these have tended to be the well-educated, professional sorts of wives. Many simply won’t go if they have aging parents who need care. They may, again depending on the particular woman, want you to help support their families in various ways. If you have chosen unwisely, this may be gold-digging. Or it may be that in countries with poor social safety nets, people take care of their families.
    Nuff said.” By Fred.

  444. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 10:38 pm #

    Hymmph…..from “Fred”
    ” They generally seem more adult and less trashy than American women of the same age (dare one say “ladylike”?) and they lack the default hostility to men.”
    Are you trying to tell us something here, Pr4C? I mean, I believe I can speak for all Carols here, we don’t need to be ladylike or do anything else to fit your sorted needs. CCNdotdotdot

  445. IxNoMor April 5, 2013 at 10:51 pm #

    “Oh, Come Let Us Adore Her”.
    OMG, so *SOAKER*!!! Poor douche can’t decide if she’s in/on the east US coast, or in a bordertown in Tejas, Or kickin’ w/(if) Welles, in Brazil/Amazon…

  446. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 11:21 pm #

    No one is reading this crap. You suck.

  447. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 11:25 pm #

    CHAPTER 1 of “A Christmas CarolNewquist”
    As she clutched the door handle of the Starbucks at the corner of E. 97th St. and Lexington Avenue, she thought about how Thomas Crapper should have been a saint. Without him, she might have had to see people relieving themselves on the corner of Lexington and East 97th. She shuddered as she could see, in her mind’s eye, the vision of the steaming pile of poo on such an elegant corner. It was an affront, to her, so egregious, that she could only compare it in her mind to a malicious petty accountant fantasizing about dropping his trousers and depositing a wet, creamy, foul-smelling shit on his boss’ keyboard. “How very common!” , she said to herself, as she decided between a latte and a mocha cappuccino.
    She was of a highly intelligent mind and strong willed body. As she looked out over Lexington Avenue from her seated perch inside of Starbucks, she couldn’t help but notice her niece, Consuelo, and her crippled little girl, Gloriosa, across the street, mesmerized by a lovely Yuletide window display at a toy store on the opposite corner from Starbucks.
    “Hymphh” She said to herself, “She works for me and doesn’t have the money to buy a Barbie doll from that store. Shouldn’t she be working on our Manhattan Project?”
    The idea that this niece of hers, a Mexican, should spend company time shopping with her daughter really pissed her off. “That’s what I get for hiring a relative who just also happens to be Mexican!” she said to herself, just as she lit a Virginia Slim and headed out the door, toward the enchanted mother and daughter.
    End of “A Christmas Carolnewquist”, chapter 1.
    Chapter 2, “A Restless Knight”

  448. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2013 at 11:25 pm #

    Martin family begins to cash in on poor Trayvon’s death. Mr Zimmerman will be next. Guess ol’ Skittles turned out to be good for something.
    Ever read about MLK’s family? They’re all about the money too. That’s all Civil Rights is – a scam to redistribute wealth from Whites to Blacks.

  449. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 11:28 pm #

    Maybe not, but I know ONE person who is! (sniggers)

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  451. carolnewquist... April 5, 2013 at 11:47 pm #

    CHAPTER 2: “A Restless Knight”
    As she deeply inhaled the sweet smoke from her cigarette on that cold New York day, she began to walk toward the little shop that had so entranced her niece and her daughter. She was slowly getting extremely pissed off, although she wasn’t quite sure about what. Being an American, she no doubt was a very spoiled woman, impatient, loud mouthed, and opinionated. She began to think about the inept barista at Starbucks, a girl of perhaps 19, who didn’t know a Caramel Frappuccino from a Hazelnut Macchiato from a Chocolate Mocha and Tazo Vanilla Rooibos Tea Latte. She couldn’t believe that the impudent young thing took over ten minutes to serve her. She found herself arguing over petty things like a latte with steamed milk or milk steamed in order to avoid curdling. Thankfully the girl finally got it right and had served the coffee to her without dropping it. That would be a tragedy after all she had to endure.
    The traffic light had at last changed and she was ready to confront her Consuelo and her daughter to find out why Consuelo wasn’t working. It was then that she found the two had disappeared into the crowd. With a heavy sigh, she took one last drag on her cigarette, crushed it out with her pointy toed Versace shoe, and headed toward her office.
    CHAPTER 2 to be continued……………..

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  454. ozone April 6, 2013 at 11:17 am #

    Oh, pardon me… my mistake.
    I wasn’t aware that I had stumbled upon the strangest [un]creative writing class ever convened.
    Apologies in advance, but I’m going to have to break protocol and respond to something having to do with the predicaments and agendas facing us in the actual world. (If I can find it amongst all the detritus, that is.)

  455. Julian C. Lee April 6, 2013 at 11:31 am #

    “Michelle and I are saddened to hear about the passing of Roger Ebert.
    “Those are the words of a true Statesmen. Blessings to you President Obama.

    First, Obama doesn’t write his own speeches and couldn’t write a coherent speech. (What we have of his college age writings shows this.) He reads speeches written for him off of teleprompters, which he is skilled at reading.
    2nd, him making a speech about some movie reviewer trivializes the office of the Presidency. As does his very presence at the White House.
    Just sayin, broe.

  456. jonathanss. April 6, 2013 at 11:33 am #

    Enter all hope, yee who enter. Somebody sure is taking great efforts to drive traffic away from here. I ditto BTB, J.S., E., et al.

  457. jonathanss. April 6, 2013 at 11:34 am #

    Oops. “Abandon all hope”,

  458. adequatio April 6, 2013 at 12:08 pm #

    the predicaments and agendas facing us in the actual world.
    Do you think there is any chance that the United States Congress can stop fiscal entropy through banking legislation? Sherrod Brown is going to try with a bill that would accomplish several things:
    1) raise equity funding requirements for financial institutions
    2) pull the United States out of the Basel III accord
    3) further restrict the Federal Reserve’s ability to bail out the shadow banking sector
    Do you want to discuss the banking predicament facing us in the actual world, where banks are bailed out because they are considered to big to fail?

  459. ozone April 6, 2013 at 12:16 pm #

    Thanks for that Escobar link, UFIA.
    I sometimes wonder how realistic he is about the extraction of resource wealth factor which must be a large feature in the future prosperity (or impoverishment) of sovereign nations. Cheap/expensive energy will tell the tale. (In the case of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez also distributed 100,000 Kalashnikovs; a smart move to integrate the populace with the military. Intervention/resource theft is now going to be much more “problematic” for Washintoon’s democracy-spreaders.)
    We know from simple observation, Cuba was very pragmatic about their access to energy and proceeded accordingly. (Awareness of the limitations of island living helps in these considerations.) If we applied this kind of pragmatism to “Island Earth”, we might have some damn-foolishness swept away. That our present-day understanding about ecological systems integration and co-dependency is roundly ignored [or rejected] by yahoos of many and varied stripes should be cause for some alarm, and why I’m fairly certain that nearly everything that is a hallmark of the status quo (especially the fictional “financial system”) will have to self-destruct before anything is “done”. Too late in such a scenario? Quite possibly; wardoc, capt. spaulding, and a few others seem to take that view and back it with reasonable arguments, and I’d say they have the evidentiary preponderance of human history on their side.

  460. ComradeDystopia April 6, 2013 at 12:28 pm #

    The message is indeed getting out concerning Connecticut’s tough, new gun control legislation because there were a spate of stabbings, not shootings, in the cities this weekend. But there were shootings, too, for example last night in New Haven homey was shot to death by an unknown assailant outside a convenience store. It was reported today the state will jail about 500 citizens they expect to run afoul of the new laws in the next 12 months, which probably was the whole idea to begin with. Any day now, to great fanfare, some poor sap is going to be arrested breaking one the the myriad abstruse new regulations. Then all the big Dem Pols will pat themselves on the back, with the local asskissing media cheering them on. That’s the way it is around here, a f-cking lib utopia.
    It snowed Nov. 1 and was cold as a bitch. Here we are 3 weeks into spring and this morning temp. was 18d.F driving home from work. Snow is still on the ground. Question: when is Global Warming going to kick in and heat the place up? I’m tired of being cold all the time

  461. ComradeDystopia April 6, 2013 at 12:38 pm #

    One more thing.
    I read an article last night in the Financial Times of London stating the Peak Oil theory is a pile of BS. The writer, some kind of energy analyst, puts great store in natural gas, which he states will replace petroleum as the main source of energy.
    Don’t ask me, this is what’s out there. I read stuff like that all the time.

  462. adequatio April 6, 2013 at 1:03 pm #

    You regularly read and cite articles saying peak oil is bullshit and yet no one on CFN calls you a clueless idealistic cornucopian. You don’t even get challenged. Are you a believer in abiotic oil formation?

  463. lucky 13 April 6, 2013 at 1:10 pm #

    Marlin, with 7 billion we are near or past
    Peak Everything.
    Thats the #1 reason that immigration is insane.

  464. lucky 13 April 6, 2013 at 1:15 pm #

    I hear the Imperial Family has a guy [or 5]
    who stay up all nite, in case the IF wants
    to watch a film, the projector crew is there.
    and this:
    Obamacare bill, there is about 500 million to be used for Medical Schools to admit and “train” (note, not educate) Blacks. So, it is already there and YOU will have no choice when you go to an Obamaclinic.
    Over half the docs in England are Pakistani or Indian………………………………..

  465. ozone April 6, 2013 at 1:19 pm #

    Forgot to say that there are a lot of names in that article that are unfamiliar to me (as well as the usual malefactors, of course).
    …So thanks for that.
    About this:
    “Who the fuck knows, right? I’m at once confused and fascinated.”
    If you have a membership application for the confused and fascinated club, sign me up too!
    In the spirit of expelling false hopes and sanctioned delusions, and for your thoughtful perusal, I encourage you to read Phil Rockstroh’s latest. (For some reason, I can’t make a distinct link to it, so just find it on the “main page”.)

  466. ComradeDystopia April 6, 2013 at 1:20 pm #

    I’m not saying peak oil is Bullshit, Adeqecio.
    I’m saying that’s what I’m reading in the business press every day. That’s the prevailing opinion, like it or not.

  467. Bustin Jay April 6, 2013 at 1:28 pm #

    Commie Dystro said “I read an article last night in the Financial Times of London stating the Peak Oil theory is a pile of BS. The writer, some kind of energy analyst, puts great store in natural gas, which he states will replace petroleum as the main source of energy.”

    Oil companies at the heart of the US shale oil boom are burning off enough gas to power all the homes in Chicago and Washington combined in a practice causing growing concern about the waste of resources and damage to the environment.
    The volume of unwanted gas being flared off in North Dakota, the state leading the shale revolution transforming the outlook for US energy, rose about 50 per cent last year. The surge at the state’s Bakken formation is being replicated in other shale regions with the Texas state regulator issuing 1,963 permits to flare in 2012, more than six times the number of 306 in 2010.
    -Financial Times

    Yes, natural gas seems plentiful. Its so cheap now its just burned to get rid of it. Burning it is a good way to remove it from the main prize: oil.

  468. Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2013 at 1:47 pm #

    Every fart bring us closer to the Earth burning up. What are you doing to prevent this? I hope you have given up beans and beer at the very least.

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  470. Rhino April 6, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

    Race” matters you say. Unless I misunderstand what you’ve been saying in your posts, northern Europeans are the superior people. Am I correct? By “superior” I mean superior in terms of intellect, creativity, civilization building. And maybe athletic ability. The usual things we look at when we assess others.
    You look at the relative development of White people nowadays (especially northerners) compared to non-White people and attribute the difference to “race”. I would caution you because things weren’t always thus. Would you attribute to “race” the fact that ancient Europeans and especially northern Europeans were illiterate, ignorant savages compared to ancient non-White peoples? Would you say that ancient Amerindians or Chinese or Indians were racially superior by virtue of their superior development at that time?
    So I’ll ask again: if “race” is the all important factor that you say it is why didn’t civilization originate on the Thames or Oder and Vistula rivers where fair skinned, northern Europeans lived? Why do we talk about Greco-Roman civilization which had its origins on the shores of the Mediterranean and further back in time in the Levant and even further back still in time in the Tigris/Euphrates area rather than an ancient, Nordic civilization that had its origins on the Baltic or in those cool, cloudy northern European forests? Looks to me that civilization started in the south with people you would consider non-White and therefore inferior and then moved north. Moved very SLOWLY north. Took a long time for northerners to catch on and catch up. Thousands of years in fact.
    Why do we use a script that had its origins with Semitic people rather than a script that had its origins with ancient northern Europeans? If northern Europeans are and were a cut above, why do we use a numbering system that had its roots with Hindus and Arabs? Nordics should have come up with both a script and numbering system and spread their use given their allegedly superior intellectual acuity.
    Our civilization has as one of its cornerstones the writings of ancient Jews. Where are the ancient religious scriptures of Nordics? The people that you consider superior should have beaten everyone else to the punch. Nordics should have been the first ones to develop systems of ethics that we live by. Yet who are the great religious masters? Where were they from? Jesus was no Nordic. Neither was Mohammed, nor was the Buddha.
    Universities devote massive resources to the study of ancient Greek and Roman philosophers. What about ancient Nordic philosophers? Who are the ancient, northern Plato and Socrates? Do ancient Nordics have anyone like Confucius? Where are the civilizational founding documents (like the Hebrew Bible) from ancient Nordic peoples . The Magna Carta? Important yes. But came much later.
    So where are the writings of ancient Nordics? We do have centuries of English lit. But look at the Chinese. There are artifacts with symbols written on them that bear a resemblance to modern Chinese characters which date back to the seventh millennium BC. Hear that? Writing EIGHT THOUSAND years old. And a surviving body of literature that goes back a good three thousand years.
    Even now, look at the architecture of Washington, that city created by northern peoples. If you could bring a Roman senator via a time machine to the present, wouldn’t he think it has more than a passing resemblance to the buildings of his own hometown?
    Ten thousand years ago the city of Jericho had defensive stone walls and forty foot guard towers. And such stuff apparently wasn’t at all uncommon in that neck of the woods. Where are the comparable contemporaneous sites of ancient northern Europeans? While the ancients were slugging stone slabs to build Stonehenge, the ancients further south were building the pyramids. Did Nordics embark on societal projects that were remotely as complex as the building of the pyramids? Consider Egyptian engineering knowledge and organizational skill. Did Nordics have anything like that?
    Did Nordics build anything that that holds a candle to what ancient Amerindians built? Where is the Nordic Teotihuacan? Have you ever seen pictures of Teotihuacan? Glorious, no? They say the place was built around 2 thousand years ago. What were Nordics building 2 thousand years ago? Where are the great, ancient centers of civilization in the north? Where are the northern cities comparable to Babylon or Athens or Rome.
    Let me suggest some answers to these issues. For a variety of reasons northern Europeans and Europeans in general were relative laggards in the civilizational enterprise. While Roman legions were forcibly civilizing large sections of Europe two millennia ago or thereabouts, other non white and non European peoples were building on the ruins of long forgotten cities already thousands of years old. That’s not to say that Nordics and Europeans in general are biologically or intellectually inferior. That IS to say that there are a multitude of factors that guide development, some of which enhance and some of which hinder.
    IMO there’s nothing in history that especially distinguishes White folks as compared to others. It would be a serious mistake to conclude that White people are racially superior because of the way things are now. Different peoples in different places at different times have had ups and downs. So Whites have been on the ups this past five hundred years. What can you therefore conclude about racial superiority or inferiority? Nothing. It wasn’t always like this and won’t likely stay this way if history is any guide. After all, a hundred years ago imperialists convinced of their own racial superiority trumpeted that the sun never sets on the British Empire – which is now down the drain.

  471. ozone April 6, 2013 at 2:06 pm #

    “Question: when is Global Warming going to kick in and heat the place up? I’m tired of being cold all the time.” -CD
    Right about… today! ;o)
    I truly believe our regional version of Climate Weirdness is going to be heavily mitigated by Arctic winds that have “escaped their bonds”.

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