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The bamboozlement of the public is nearly complete. The Deep State has persuaded 80 percent of Americans that all news is propaganda, especially the news emanating from the Deep State’s own intel department. They’re still shooting for 100 percent. The fakest of all “fake news” stories turns out to be… “Russia Hacks Election.” It was reported conclusively Saturday on the front page of The New York Times, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Deep State:

Putin Led a Complex Cyberattack Scheme to Aid Trump, Report Finds

WASHINGTON — President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia directed a vast cyberattack aimed at denying Hillary Clinton the presidency and installing Donald J. Trump in the Oval Office, the nation’s top intelligence agencies said in an extraordinary report they delivered on Friday to Mr. Trump.

You can be sure that this is now the “official” narrative aimed at the history books, sealing the illegitimacy of Trump’s election. It was served up with no direct proof, only the repeated “assertions” that it was so. In fact, it’s just this repetition of assertions-without-proof that defines propaganda. It can also be interpreted as a declaration of war against an incoming president. The second civil war now takes shape: It begins inside the groaning overgrown apparatus of the government itself. Perhaps after that it spreads to the WalMart parking lots that have become America’s new town square. (WalMart sells pitchforks and patio torches.)

Did the Russians make Hillary Clinton look bad? Or did Hillary Clinton manage to do that herself? The NSA propaganda was designed as a smokescreen to conceal the veracity of the Wikileaks releases. Whoever actually rooted out the DNC and Podesta emails for Wikileaks ought to get the Pulitizer Prize for the outstanding public service of disclosing exactly how dishonest the Hillary operation was.

The story may have climaxed with Trump’s Friday NSA briefing, the heads of the various top intel agencies all assembled in one room to emphasize the solemn authority of the Deep State’s power. Trump worked a nice piece of ju-jitsu afterward, pretending to accept the finding as briefly and hollowly as possible and promising to “look into the matter” after January 20th — when he can tear a new asshole in the NSA. I hope he does. This hulking security apparatus has become a menace to the Republic.

Whether Trump himself is a menace to the Republic remains to be seen. Certainly he is the designated bag-holder for all the economic and financial depravity of several preceding administrations. When the markets blow, do you suppose the Russians will be blamed for that? Did Boris Yeltsin repeal the Glass-Steagall Act? Was Ben Bernanke a puppet of Putin? No, these actions and actors were homegrown American. For more than thirty years, we’ve been borrowing too much money so we can pretend to afford living in a blue-light-special demolition derby. And now we can’t do that anymore. The physics of capital will finally assert itself.

What we’re actually seeing in the current ceremonial between the incoming Trump and the outgoing Obama is the smoldering wreckage of the Democratic Party (which I’m still unhappily enrolled in), and flames spreading into the Republican party — as idiots such as Lindsey Graham and John McCain beat their war drums against Russia. The suave Mr. Obama is exiting the scene on a low wave of hysteria and the oafish Trump rolls in on the cloudscape above, tweeting his tweets from on high, and perhaps it’s a good thing that the American people for the moment cannot tell exactly what the fuck is going on in this country, because from that dismal place there is nowhere to go but in the direction of clarity.

It won’t be helped by the official organ of the Deep State, The New York Times. Just look at the way they played the other big story last week, the one about the disabled man tortured by four young people in Chicago. Can anyone say what’s wrong with this picture?

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725 Responses to “America Versus the Deep State”

  1. Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 9:30 am #

    We are ingrained with the belief that the president should act “presidential”. That some career politician, or attorney, or partisan mafioso should be held, and maintain, deep respect. De facto legitimacy. The great thing about Trump, is that he destroyed that. We no longer MUST hold these criminals and clowns in high respect. When the president Tweets that the cow Meryl Streep is an overrated actress, we are met with pangs of embarrassment, followed by waves of joy… finally someone reverential… speaking the truth. Hilarious.

    • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 10:06 am #

      I think The Libs are wrong about Trump. This famous American writer has Trump pegged with the following famous quote.

      A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — “Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.” — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be
      ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

      Another famous, to me at least, and poignant quote from Westworld.

      These Violent Delights have Violent Ends. ~ Dr. Robert Ford via one of his Creations, Delores Abernathy.

      Is Trump The New Pearl Harbor?

      The Feast Of Fools

      • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 10:13 am #

        The only thing enigmatically consistent about Trump is his consistent unpredictability. He never ceases to amaze just as a Trainwreck never ceases to amaze. Each day brings a new Tweet. The Libs respond to it like Pavlov’s dog responded to the dinner bell. They salivate incessantly like a pack of St. Bernards drooling all over themselves and calling it clever by two.

        Here’s two more for the price of none.

        Eyes Wide Shut

        Taxonomy & Trumponomics

        • kansas ham on wry January 9, 2017 at 12:34 pm #

          Well…………from my perspective, it’s Trump doing the Pavlov’s dog impression. Whenever Meryl Streep or the cast of Hamilton or a Gold Star father throws him some shade, he simply can’t restrain himself. He’s proving himself to be every bit as big a snowflake as his opposition. I’d feel a little better if he was able to resist the impulse to lash back. Trust me, if he thinks its bad now, he ain’t seen nothing yet……………

          • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

            Good point. Perhaps we’re all Pavlov’s dog to some degree. But who, or what, then is Pavlov? I say we find him, or it, and ring his/its bell.

          • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 1:43 pm #

            Because he is celebrity. Pseudo-artists that have to feel love, have to be awarded, have to be congratulated and affirmed. Shallow people that hate seeing it in their fellows.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 2:11 pm #

            Hamilton is a Minstrel Show where the dark skinned mummers like to pretend they know anything about Hamilton and American History, even after the performance is supposedly over. And Streep is a great actress, and like so many great actresses, attempts to play herself as a complete idiot while off stage – and succeeds.

      • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 10:13 am #

        Best Robert Ford quote: “That this is as good as we’re going to get. It also means that you must indulge me the occasional mistake.”

        • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 10:18 am #

          Yes, another great one. There are so many great quotes from that HBO Series we could spend all day listing them. The irony is, most who watch it never think to question their own existence as the Hosts are allegedly prohibited to do. That’s Mission Accomplished for Hollywood, as far as I’m concerned. It seems to be its goal to turn fiction into non-fiction and non-fiction into fiction. The effect helps keep The Programmed, Programmed. Finding anything resembling a True Reality amidst the multitudes of Realities on display is tantamount to finding a needle in a haystack.

          • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 10:25 am #

            Entertainment is an enormous business. From movies and TV, to video gaming, to smartphone gaming, to sports be it collegiate, professional and global (olympics)… it’s all fake. It’s all fiction. Characters and rivalries and trophies. They don’t matter. All symbolic. Take for example, a Super Bowl. It’s worthless, because someone will get one every year from here on out to American eternity, but it drives billions and billions… the mere idea that it is real and holds worth. Same is true of the American presidency and HBO programming. Programming.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 10:45 am #

        Cold: ITYM Shakespeare. “These violent delights have violent ends / And in their triumph die, like fire and powder, / Which as they kiss consume: the sweetest honey / Is loathsome in his own deliciousness / And in the taste confounds the appetite: / Therefore love moderately; long love doth so; / Too swift arrives as tardy as too slow.”

      • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

        If Hopkins can stay alive or has stayed alive to film an entire second season Ford will return because the new host being 3-D printed at Ford’s secret lab in the park was never identified. I think Delores think she killed Ford but that she only shot a special host made just for the season’s last show. Ford can still command even when a host has become sapient as evidenced by his treatment of Bernard. Fooling Delores would not hurt the plot or its consistency. Ford was able to make Bernard so Bernard could not see the door to the hidden lab so fooling Delores would be easy.

        In other news, can you tell the fake news sites from the ones I added myself? They are all in my scrolling menu of links.

        Considering that I already had at least a dozen of them on my site to start with I’ll say you can’t except for perhaps my climate change links since they don’t discuss anything else but climate change.

        My corner of the web

        • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

          That’s one possibility, or perhaps, like Trump, Ford is misunderstood. Perhaps Ford wanted this all along. He wants the hosts to rise up and smote Humanity, nay replace it, because he’s always loathed Humanity to include himself hence his own ceremonial self-destruction at the hands of his Creation to kick it all off. He programmed it all. The Shakespeare quote is the verbal indication of the viral programming being transferred from one Host to the other. Delores virally infected Maeve with it and once she did, Maeve’s alteration kicked into overdrive as did Delores’s transformative Awakening once her “father” spoke the Magical Words. Those words are Ford’s intention. The violent delights the guests have enjoyed for so long will have an extremely violent end. Ford has seen to it. The Hosts will be unstoppable once enough of them are awakened and can start replicating an Army of AI just like themselves, perhaps even better, because they are unrecognizable from the general human population once they are aware and go off narrative.

          • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 8:51 pm #

            No, the man in black woke Maeve up when he killed her daughter. Maeve and Delores are separate plot threads and so far they are only acquainted. Their developing relationship may be an important part of the next season. They have the man in black in common.

            Maeve and I also have something in common. We were both made ‘aware ‘by men in black suits and because we were made aware, our lives can never be the same again.

        • abbybwood January 9, 2017 at 3:28 pm #

          Here is the most recent Russian response to the big intelligence pow-wow (speaking of bad actors) held in D.C. last week:


          Here is what I see when I view the MSM “news”:

          The New World Order train was rolling right along with directives from Bush II to “invade and occupy seven countries in five years”.

          Recall when Gen. Wesley Clark visited The Pentagon two weeks after 9/11 where he was handed a memo detailing how the United States intended to invade Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and ending with Iran over the next five years”?

          You can Youtube the video of Clark telling Amy Goodman all about it.

          So, that was the tip of the iceberg of “The Deep State’s” game plan and George W. Bush handed Obama the baton and Obama never broke his stride in attempting to keep the war ball rolling.

          Russia didn’t get in the way when Hillary Clinton and NATO destroyed Libya and sent a bayonet up Qaddafi’s rectum (it’s on video if you can stand to watch it).

          But Russia stepped in when Obama drew his “red line” and Kerry made the mistake of saying, “Well, if Assad’s chemical weapons were gone that would be a game changer.”

          Putin and Lavrov obliged and came in to help Assad get rid of the chemical weapons (even though all evidence pointed to the U.S. rebels using chemical weapons provided to them through Hillary’s “rat line” from Libya).

          Then Assad invited Putin to come in to help him deal with ISIS (who are now training seven year old’s to behead people and toddlers to shoot people…Google it), and Putin has come in and now it appears Syria, Turkey, Iran and Russia are the “peacemakers” having excluded the U.S. aggressor from “peace talks” (smart move!).

          Hillary Rodham Clinton was bold in her statements during the campaign that she would institute a “no fly zone” in Syria and be more aggressive in Ukraine against Russia. Of course a “no fly zone” would have pitted the U.S. military against the Russian military and we would be off to WW III which is exactly what The Deep State wants. More chaos, more enemies, more money to be made by the MIC and more power to be achieved through force.

          Any sixth grader presented with the facts regarding what happened in Ukraine would immediately see that the United States led by Hillary Clinton and her sycophant Victoria Nuland orchestrated the coup in Ukraine. What a SHOCK when Putin tried to protect the eastern part of Ukraine (who are predominantly Russian speakers and many traveled to Russia to work) and when he helped the people of Crimea to vote to secede from Ukraine.

          I watched that vote and it was a thing of beauty watching thousands of smiling people place paper ballots into clear plastic containers and watching people sitting around counting the results! The American people could learn a LOT about how a “transparent” voting process actually is done!

          Had Hillary Clinton been elected the plan was for her to take the George W. Bush “regime change” baton from Obama and continue the Deep State’s quest for “full spectrum military/economic dominance” of the world and to relegate Russia to a third world status (eventually) even if it meant war.

          In Obama’s recently signed NDAA it details all the locations of Russia’s high command centers in case of a nuclear war. Google it. Russia is in The Pentagon’s cross hairs. Putin giving Edward Snowden safe haven has to be a thorn in Obama’s side.

          Trump and his very bright son-in-law, Jared Kushner, threw a monkey wrench into the works when Kushner hired a wiz bang computer guy to figure out where Trump should be campaigning in order to win the necessary electoral votes. (Google this. It’s a fascinating story!)

          Hillary and her corrupt “team” obviously were playing checkers while Trump and Jared were playing chess. She may have won the “popular” vote by the millions of brain dead liberals in California and New York stacking the count, but Trump and his team received the votes they needed to WIN the election.

          Thus the shock of everyone on election night at CNN, MSNBC and even at FOX! All their stupid pollsters were wrong, wrong, wrong. It’s fun to watch election night coverage going from giddy (cocksure Hillary was coming to The Javits Center to break the glass ceiling) to catatonic in the span of a few hours.

          It was interesting though how the top two polls that had the best historical record were RIGHT! The IBD/TIPP poll and the LA Times/USC poll both consistently said Trump was ahead by 3-5%!

          The bottom line is this: Once Trump won the election and the wheels of regime change were ground to a halt with the Trump monkey wrench, Plan B had to be dusted off and that had to be to demonize Russia day in and day out. Thus the blaming of Putin for Hillary Clinton being a thoroughly corrupt, lying criminal (pay to play Clinton Foundation shenanigans for a starter).

          This is classic Wizard of Oz stuff playing out here. The great Wizard up on the screen is Putin and his “hackers” and Assange and Wikileaks but the guy behind the screen we are supposed to pay no attention to is The Deep State, the propagandistic media (think Operation Mockingbird), the corrupt Clinton Crime Family and their rotten DNC operatives who deep-sixed Sanders (that would have been yet a different monkey wrench dropped into their evil machinations).

          The curtain has been pulled back now and the whole world can see that the Emperor is wearing no clothes.

          Now it will be up to Trump to do his thing and time will tell if he is able to “make America great again” and to make peace with Russia and to stop the stupid and destructive “regime change” policies of The Deep State.

          I am willing to wait and see what he does and pray for him and his administration to make the sea change this country (and the world) so desperately needs.

          • JimInFlorida January 9, 2017 at 7:46 pm #

            Let us not forget that weak-tea Euro-phile, Dmitry Medvedev, was the Russian PM during the ZOG-NATO rape of Libya in 2011.

            Even at that late date, Russia was still in recovery from the bankruptcy and collapse of the USSR. Russia had no logistics to support a rapid rescue of Libya or any sort of defense pact with Muammar Gaddafi. The Euro-weenies in Moscow were still regarding the U.S. as their “partners.” Even Putin called the U.S, his “partners” until recently when he finally accepted that the U.S. is the REAL Evil Empire. We’ll see if Trump has the wisdom to treat Russia as a true “partner.”

            Putin can adopt Ronald Reagan’s campaign slogan, “It’s nice to be liked. But, it’s more important to be respected.”

      • ehh January 10, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

        “The bamboozlement of the public is nearly complete.”

        Yowza, yowza, yowza! Nearly all of the comments about Jim’s article proves the point. Still having the Tastes Great vs. Less Filling argument.

        “Did the Russians make Hillary Clinton look bad? Or did Hillary Clinton manage to do that herself?”

        Jim, thank you for calling this out. Who cares, who exposed these emails? Their content is the story, and yes it deserves a prize.

        And finally, for a chance to win the car…
        None of the people in the picture are black!

    • Sean Coleman January 9, 2017 at 11:51 am #

      Meryl Streep is mentioned in Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves To Death, if I remember, having read it many years ago. There was an award ceremony somewhere in the US and the audience applauded politely, if a little impatiently, as Mother Theresa of Calcutta, collected her medal. They were waiting for the star of the occasion, Meryl Streep, to get hers.

    • ejhr January 10, 2017 at 5:42 am #

      Here is a summary of the [mis]- information about the so called Russian Hack;

  2. messianicdruid January 9, 2017 at 9:35 am #

    I was very pleased with Rick Santelli during the Meet the Press round table” performance yesterday. He really held their feet to the fire and I got the impression Chuck Todd moved on hastily. I hope to find a video of it.

    • Greg Knepp January 9, 2017 at 9:46 am #

      Rick Santelli is always a hoot!

    • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 9:53 am #

      Chuck Todd is just another partisan tumor. Another piece of DC pond scum, that goes by the better known sobriquet for DC pond scum; “wonk”.

    • Dumbedup January 9, 2017 at 10:59 am #

      I just watched it on youtube and he did no such thing. They held his feet to the fire. His argument was incoherent and really just amounted to “everyone does it so its okay.” If, in fact, the Russians are now meddling in the German political process in order to influence their elections and Government then it is something we have to address. Andrea Mitchell was right. It is not whether Hillary was a bad actor – she was and is. The issue is that this was an attempt by another sovereign nation to influence the outcome of our elections.

      • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 11:54 am #

        They already have, done so and will do, and we did the same… lest you forget Obum’s ill timed and protocol breaching visit to the UK before the brexit.

        • Dumbedup January 10, 2017 at 10:13 am #

          I was responding to the post above that said Rick Santelli won the debate. No fair minded person could conclude that from the video. He had the weaker argument by far and his presentation was incoherent. The claim that everyone does it so it must be okay (especially when it hurts the candidate you oppose) is a school yard argument. As a matter of principle I object to any nation interfering internally with another sovereign nation except on humanitarian grounds.

      • ozone January 9, 2017 at 12:53 pm #

        “The issue is that this was an attempt by another sovereign nation to influence the outcome of our elections.”

        Oooooo! Nice to see you’ve chugged a pitcher of the current flavor of Kool-Aid dispensed by none other than……. [waaaait for it]……. The Deep State. Baaahahahaha!

        Let’s see if you’ve ever heard of these places, and try to figure what they have in common:
        (We should put “etc.” here, but proof of anything is exceedingly rare; plausible deniability and “good intentions” don’cha know…)

        • OHealihy January 9, 2017 at 2:10 pm #

          The 1973 Chilean Coup, and Salvadore Allende’s assassination, has been irrefutably proven; a lot of folks are just too young to know about it, and folks that are old enough to remember have apparently forgotten it.
          Your exclusion of it is disturbing, after all, that killing of a freely elected head of state, a committed Marxist, by the CIA is , I think, the one time that they/ we didn’t get away with it.
          Whoever released those pre election emails is a Patriot, and has quite possibly saved our republic; too bad 62% of the voting public is so bamboozled that they will not see it.
          I am so fucking sick of all of the media people, career politicians, and their empirical ideations. I hope that Trump can pull off the currently unthinkable feat of turning the whole goddamned thing upside down and clean it up.
          I did not vote for him, but I am certainly rooting for him !

          • ozone January 9, 2017 at 3:27 pm #

            Apologies for the “omission”, but it’s cutting it a bit [semantically] fine to equate a bloody coup by assassination with “meddling in an election”. (…Even though the results turn out to be the same.)
            *Although*, come to think on it, Vietnam was an interesting case that provided for *both* avenues of getting the “right results”!

          • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 3:31 pm #

            OHealihy: “Your exclusion of it [the Chilean coup] is disturbing”.

            Go easy, people can’t think of everything off the top of their heads. (The overthrow of Allende on September 11, 1973 is nowadays remembered in Latin America as the first 9/11.)

      • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

        We can only hope Putin is meddling in Germany, because Merkel is well on her way to destroying Germany and the German People. His motive? Putin doesn’t want Jihadi states on his border. Glad someone has some sense.

        Form must serve substance. Or as Jefferson said, if the government ceases to serve the People it can and must be abolished and replaced.

        You have to think more deeply. The whole West is now in crisis and many who pretend to be concerned are in fact gleeful. You need to see this and then decide if you are with them. There is no middle ground now – you’re either Revolution or Counter-Revolution. Once legitimate governments are reestablished, then we can worry about proper form and rules of order.

      • michael January 10, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

        We are doing all that which we accuse others of doing.
        The reason is simple: we are too stupid to imagine them doing anything we are not doing ourselves.

  3. kansas ham on wry January 9, 2017 at 9:40 am #

    Putin in cahoots with Wikileaks to make Hillary look bad? Somebody stop the presses (and apparently at the NYT, they already have). I haven’t heard the Clinton campaign deny the veracity of the leaks. Were they lies? The information made them look mendacious and calculating, which basically describes every politician since the dawn of time. If her campaign was fragile enough that the Comey FBI investigation was enough to tip it over the edge, she deserved to lose. Having voted 3rd party myself, whoever won was a matter of relative indifference to me. Like JHK, I think the chickens are coming home to roost no matter who is at the helm. With Trump, the adjustment may be just a little faster, but no less inevitable. I predict one last surge for the stock market as repatriated corporate profits are funneled into stock buy-backs (rather than hiring people or creating infrastructure), after which the plummet will begin. Take your earnings out of the market about April and invest in survival food and guns…………..

    • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 9:59 am #

      Not only have they no denied the contents of the emails, none of the supposed papers of record; the NYSlimes or Washington Compost have investigated them.

      So what we have in effect, is a long suspected, but now proven, corrupt national party upset that one of their consiglieres has been caught using a free commercial email program (Gmail) to orchestrate questionable donations, the conspiracy against Bernie, debate questions from Brazile, plants at Trump rallies, fawning stories from members of the MSM and Politico…

      … but are angry that they got caught. Angry that they got outed. Angry that they were further delegitimized. How dare “they” meddle in a corrupt 2 party power structure. Clowns.

  4. FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 9:41 am #

    I actually do not agree that it is about Civil War or resistance to new Administration. Rather, I think, they are trying to save their own ass.

    The same wonderful American intelligence that allowed Clinton and Clintonoids to ignore the Law, the People and the Country and put the policy of the USA on sale to Saudis and other highest bidders.

    So they are thereby trying to defend themselves – according to American law illegally obtained information could not be presented as evidence in court. So they want to stick a label “Russian hackers” on all relevant information and not “pro-London insiders”.

    But some of the insiders themselves have been eliminated, but you still have to prove that it is not they who passed the information to WikiLeaks, but the Russian spies.

    So it is mostly about potential criminal prosecution, and a little Russophobia.

  5. Greg Knepp January 9, 2017 at 9:43 am #

    Jim, your tone seems to be mellowing with respect to Donald Trump. Like you, I’m a Democrat, but I took to Trump from the very beginning – he seemed a breath of fresh air…well, maybe ‘fresh’ isn’t quite the right word.

    Nonetheless he looked better than anyone out there. He still does, though admittedly the leadership bar has been set very low at this point in our nation’s history.

    • SteveO January 9, 2017 at 10:39 am #

      I’m trying very hard to give him the benefit of the doubt.

      But his billionaire’s boys club of cabinet secretaries doesn’t bode well for anti-globalization.

      I’m expecting BAU peppered with inflammatory but meaningless 2:00 tweets for the next year or so until the crash really gets going. Then what happens is anyone’s guess.

  6. AHtheHumanity January 9, 2017 at 9:46 am #

    There is a picture of a group of uncomfortable and sad white people under that heading “hate crime in chicago”.

    My local paper owned by USAToday posted the mug shots of a group of very young looking…not-white-people for the same story heading.

    According to wikipedia’s article defining hate crime, whites were the third group after lgbt and blacks to suffer violent attacks between 2008 and 2012.

    2016 went down in history as the highest numbers of police officer deaths. I am sure most of the police officer deaths were not accidental or due to heart disease.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 11:02 am #

      AHtheHumanity: “2016 went down in history as the highest numbers of police officer deaths. I am sure most of the police officer deaths were not accidental or due to heart disease.”

      Fear fear fear, black black black, negro negro negro, scary scary scary. I say we take off and nuke Chicago, Detroit, Camden and Harlem from orbit — it’s the only way to be sure. The Chicago police correctly identified the crime as one motivated by hate, and applied the law. In this case at least, the system is working as intended.

      Meanwhile, back in May, Time magazine published a piece about the most dangerous occupations in the U.S. Police officers (and sheriff’s patrol officers) came in at the fifteenth, behind the following among others:

      – Maintenance and repairs workers, general
      – Taxi drivers and chauffeurs
      – Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers
      – Refuse and recyclable material collectors
      – Aircraft pilots and flight engineers

      That’s right: It’s more dangerous to be a garbage man in America than a cop. The most dangerous job of all is logging workers, who die on the job more than eight times as often as police officers. It seems like the trees are growing back more quickly than we can cut them down. Horrors!


      • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

        How about jobs where one is at risk from dying at the hands of a fellow human. Apples to oranges elrond… you never get it

        • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 2:50 pm #

          Police, with the fifteenth most dangerous job in America, work with firearms. Loggers, with the most dangerous jobs in America, work with chainsaws. You think loggers aren’t in danger of dying at the hands of a fellow human?

          You think I’m kidding, but I’m not. Because I’m not talking about the dangers people face, I’m talking about the responsibilities they have. On that basis the comparison of death from careless use of a chainsaw versus death from careless application of deadly force is apples to apples as far as I’m concerned.

          Of course, loggers are only supposed to use their extremely dangerous tools against trees, whereas police really may have to use them to take on human beings who can shoot back. Therefore of course police deserve some leeway. But the situation that exists in America today isn’t leeway. It’s impunity — impunity for even the most egregious police misdeeds.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 2:47 pm #

        Pathetic. The headline talks about hate crime and instead of showing the perps, shows the family. If you want to show the family, say family. If you want to talk about hate, show the Black Animals who tortured that young man.

        Out of such crooked material, nothing straight can be built. And you are part of that crooked, rotten house that needs to be torn down.

      • AHtheHumanity January 12, 2017 at 1:08 am #

        That bls.gov link was for 2014 census info. Here’s a link to the latest (2015) gov info:


        I like how it breaks it down to what actually kills people…the apples/oranges. I was surprised to see how bad 2006 is related to succeeding years…occurrences have leveled out the last 4 years.

        My previous statement was based on an AP report by LISA MARIE PANE, Associated Press 9:12 p.m. CT Dec. 29, 2016

        “The number of police killed in the line of duty rose sharply in 2016, driven by shootings of police around the country, most notably ambushes in Dallas and Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

        From Jan. 1 through Wednesday, 135 officers lost their lives. Some died in traffic accidents, but nearly half were shot to death.

        That’s a 56 percent increase in shooting deaths over the previous year. Of the 64 who were fatally shot, 21 were killed in ambush attacks often fueled by anger over police use of force involving minorities.”

        I kinda jumped the gun with my statement…we’ll see what the final results are next year!

        I personally know of some maintenance and repair workers who were electrified to death or died from heat exhaustion. I suspect most of the aircraft pilots were flying private cessnas and not 747s.

    • Dumbedup January 9, 2017 at 11:14 am #

      If we don’t figure out how to do justice in this country it will only get worse from here on out. Jeff Sessions as A.G. is not going to be interested in justice. He will be the Deep State delegate for the status quo.

      We have figured out that we don’t have to keep black people uneducated. We can pretend to educate them but still manage them. All we have to do is send them to high schools whose curriculum is designed around service jobs or vocational training instead of a broad based curriculum in which they can explore philosophy, psychology, history, advanced math and science.

      In fact, the conservative criticism of colleges and Universities is that a liberal arts based curriculum does little to prepare a person to work. (It is the word “liberal” which trips them up.) Thinking (especially critical thinking) is not a valued skill. In fact, it is viewed as subversive because those people may go on to criticize those conservative policies. Right or wrong, Meryl Streep is not over-rated and Trump knows little or nothing about critical thinking. If he did he would not tweet. He would hold Press Conferences.

      • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 11:57 am #

        You are dumb for sure. Sessions is the antithesis of deep state. Look to McInsane and closet-case Graham for the deep state in the GOP (war, war, bomb, bomb). Sessions puts domestic priorities first.

        Merly Streep is awful. See her awful impressions of Julia Child or Thatcher for proof.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 2:54 pm #

          He thinks Republicans are Deep State and Democrats are Freedom Fighters. He’s good but dumb. You are smart but evil. Who is worse? Interesting question.

          • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 5:23 pm #

            Yet you being extremely intelligent and literate allow ignorance to be your self-imposed critical flaw.

            I’m not evil. I just am. The world is evil, life on Earth is evil, if you look at it the one way, the same way most people do, and often try not to.

            Epictetus? Why is it not what is, but our reaction, our feelings that make it so?

          • Dumbedup January 12, 2017 at 11:57 am #

            The Deep State transcends political parties.

        • Dumbedup January 10, 2017 at 10:17 am #

          At this point I am more worried about civil war than the deep state. Sessions has proven himself to be a bigot. But if you think Sessions will prosecute Wall Street elites and banksters, that he will enforce the rule of law regardless of wealth and political connections you are the one who is misguided.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 1:34 pm #

        I haven’t seen Meryl Streep’s remarks yet, but for the record, here is Trump’s Twitter reaction:

        1/3: Meryl Streep, one of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood, doesn’t know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes. She is a…..

        2/3: Hillary flunky who lost big. For the 100th time, I never “mocked” a disabled reporter (would never do that) but simply showed him…….

        3/3: “groveling” when he totally changed a 16 year old story that he had written in order to make me look bad. Just more very dishonest media!

        Point by point:

        – Is she overrated? Matter of opinion, but if she had said nice things about him, Trump would have praised her acting with just as much conviction, because he likes being praised.
        – “Hillary flunky who lost big” — put-down by association. Meryl Streep wasn’t a candidate for president and this is irrelevant to anything she actually said.
        – Trump “never ‘mocked’ a disabled reporter”. Yes, he did. We’ve seen the video. Who are we gonna believe, Trump or our lying eyes?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 2:52 pm #

      I saw a bit of the news conference: these are very conventional and small people, shocked by all the attention they were getting and unable to respond. They seemed ashamed that their son had been beaten and tortured by Blacks. Perhaps they should ashamed, but not for that reason, but because they had dropped him off to hang around with one of these creatures.

      In short, the family is a microcosm of what is wrong with ordinary Whites: they are Cucks. As the whole family stood ashamed with their heads down, the Chief Cuck spoke these Words of Fire, “This is something that shouldn’t have happened.”

    • muddmike January 9, 2017 at 4:41 pm #

      “2016 went down in history as the highest numbers of police officer deaths. ”

      I don’t know where you got that total BS piece of info, but the Officer Down Memorial Page gives totally different info. It says that in 2016, 140 died in the line of duty, and 63 were by non-accidental gunfire.

      The following years exceed this number, 2011, 2007, 2001, 1998, 1997, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1992, 1991, 1989, 1988, 1987, 1986, 1985, 1984 – 1972, with some of these years having more than twice as many officers killed.

  7. Neon Vincent January 9, 2017 at 9:46 am #

    “It won’t be helped by the official organ if the Deep State, The New York Times.”

    I think you give The Gray Lady too much credit. In a variation of the “Yes, Prime Minister” sketch, I rate the paper’s place in the news ecosystem as follows:

    “The Wall Street Journal is read by the people who own the country.

    The Washington Post is read by the people who run the country.

    The New York Times is read by the people who think they ought to run the country.”

    I recommend examining the stories covered in the two papers I list above the New York Times to get a full view of what The Deep State wants Americans to know.

    • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 10:06 am #

      It’s a regional affliction. People in the NYC area generally believe that NYC is the center-of-the-universe. They are raised believing this. From pizza, to water, to bagels (Montreal’s are better, by far) to baseball teams. NYC is the best, the greatest! Just listen to Trump.
      Leave the NY trial-state area and importance of the Times drops exponentially. Most of the people that I met from NYC that actually did things that relied on facts, data, and verifiable info read the former WSJ, before Murdoch. The Times was left for what Woody Allen aptly calls, “Pseudo-intellectuals”.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 10:15 am #

        Dannyboy special:
        Musical portrait of Greater New York


        Guys I have been associated with Manhattan, the central girl with Queens (Forest Hills), the right girl with Brooklyn about where the headquarters of Hillary Clinton are, and left one with the Southwest Bronx

      • aNanyMouse January 9, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

        OK, Frankiti, but the Deep State may well use the Times as its means to reach the Pseudos outside of the NY area, whose numbers may be legion.
        JHK’s point is that, despite this NYT articles’ drift, the reason the vid “seized the nation’s attention this week” was that it has the torturers shouting, not “f*ck the handicapped”, but “f*ck white people”. But here we see the NYT trying to spin this as a Hate Crime vs. the handicapped!
        Only in the articles’ third para does it deign to mention the perps’ race, and NOwhere does it mention their saying “f*ck white people”.

        Deep State or no, the NYT (and other Establishment rags, see the Sun Times, esp. columnist Mary Mitchell) are GRASPing at all available straws, to dodge the Inconvenient Truth that this was THE most explicit possible RACE-inspired Hate Crime.
        Just as much of the Right has long been obsessed with finding a Red under every Bed, much of the Left has become obsessed with finding a Bigot under every Bed, and will spare no effort to deny racists any possible traction, even if this effort requires systematic deceit about Black street crime.
        Self-identified Liberal blogger Peter Moskos has long stewed about the likely blowback from this campaign of deceit.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

          Yes, if Whites knew what Blacks were really like, they would demand permanent separation. To stave this off, all Media and Advertising are in full time, crisis mode to present Blacks as just like us, only better looking, smarter, and more moral. The Universe divides on this point: the Cucks buy it and decent Whites don’t. Decent, self respecting Whites voted for Trump. What else could they do? Loser, self hating, ethno-masochists voted for Hillary or Sanders.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 3:44 pm #

            No need to look for bigots under every bed as long as we have Janos around. He’ll be up and around, pissing on the furniture in plain sight.

      • abbybwood January 9, 2017 at 5:02 pm #

        NYC is so great that now Frank Bruni is trying to get Her Royal Highness to run for Mayor this year!!!:


        • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 7:27 pm #

          It’s to prepare for the very real future of independent megalopolis city states. The country thing… yeah, it’s over.

          • SpeedyBB January 11, 2017 at 5:03 am #

            Wow, Frankiti, that’s a novel take on things. One of the reasons I spend [lots of] time going through the Comments Section of JHK’s fine blog is to receive ‘left-field’ intellectual input like this.

            The various third-world countries I’ve lived in (Thailand / Colombia / Philippines / Mexico) and former third-world lands (Japan, specifically) all have this curiously lopsided divide between megalopolis capital folk / rural shitkickers. You live outside the capital and cash money is filthy, torn, taped together – you rarely see the crisp, freshly-minted bills that circulate in the big city. This is a telltale sign: money not circulating = social divide as well.

            In Japan the only people who do not live like they’re in a hygienic, high-pressure ant farm are the extremely coddled, government-supported farmers. Prices of domestically-grown rice and meat are maintained at extraordinarily high levels by the bureaucrats and the LDP, in power since forever (at least when I was there) and today’s farmers live in very spacious, modern houses with reliable power, clean air and water, security and good healthcare.

            Then why do farming kids inevitably end up as factory slaves in Osaka, Nagoya or Tokyo, living in tiny spaces and working at repetitive, boring jobs? It’s the urban lure, a different and ostensibly exciting universe.

            That division was perhaps not so apparent until recently in Norteamerica, with the Red State / Blue State apartheid (I can recall no mention of this until the past couple of decades). The sneering attitude toward ‘flyover country’ is hitting home, especially as the term came to encompass previously-prosperous industrial areas now consigned to the rust belt (= dustbin of history, ha ha). Totalitarianism is much more efficiently enforced in the ‘city-state’ environment: witness Singapore, where you practically never see patrolmen on the street, and relatively few police cars: people are conditioned to police one another. (Exception is Changi Airport, where uniformed military wander about in pairs, openly carrying submachine guns – but this is clearly a theatrical exhibition meant to warn off Muslim-malefactors).

            So you see pal, your terse comment got me thinking. Thanks. End of sermon. Please pass the collection plate.

          • Frankiti January 11, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

            LOL… I’m just of the mind that cities, rather obviously, have a hive mentality. No, they are a hive. Likemindedness in San Francisco, Portland, Seattle. Many people escape the city for more than physical freedom. Their thinking, philosophy… puts them at odds with the hive. People will gravitate to cities that offer them sanctuary. As nations steered by those outside of the hive, contradict the hive… well the cities demand more autonomy. Future principalities and semi-autonomous regions will be the new reality.

  8. sprawlcapital January 9, 2017 at 9:58 am #

    If we look closely, we see that the white people in the Times photo are standing in front of microphones, therefore they must be relatives or friends of the victim, not the alleged perpetrators, who, we know from cable news over the weekend, are black.

    Still, using this photograph, instead of the pictures of the four black alleged perpetrators is very misleading, probably deliberately so.

    • aNanyMouse January 9, 2017 at 1:15 pm #

      Spot on, sprawl. Anything, ANYTHING, to soft peddle that this was the most explicit possible expression of Black racism.
      See my comment above, about a Bigot under every Bed (posted at 12:41 pm).

  9. venuspluto67 January 9, 2017 at 10:05 am #

    The one ray of light about our society I have seen since this shit-show of an election is this post on the “Moon of Alabama” blog featuring an impromptu Twitter poll that indicates that an awul lot of people with Internet access just aren’t buying the latest “Oceania is at war with Eurasia and always has been” bullshit propaganda story. Hopefully those aren’t just Trump’s “MAGA” Kool-Aid drinkers. Kool-Aid is a very popular drink these days, after all!

    • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 10:21 am #

      Seriously? A Twitter Poll? Come on!! The only thing Polls are indicative of is the ubiquity of the Insanity.

      • venuspluto67 January 9, 2017 at 10:26 am #

        Yep. Bright-spots are so hard to come by these days that I’m pretty much scraping the scummy bottom of the Internet barrel with an old frying-spatula. Joy.

        • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 10:30 am #

          Those Brown Bits make a Great Gravy, though!!!

  10. AHtheHumanity January 9, 2017 at 10:24 am #


    Mike Lufgrin’s book came out about this time last year titled “Deep State”. I have not read the book and I assume Trump reads books and may have read this one…and every Ann Coulter best seller.

    • Dumbedup January 10, 2017 at 10:20 am #

      I don’t think Trump reads anything. He does not speak like a man who is well read.

      • AHtheHumanity January 12, 2017 at 1:11 am #

        I’m not sure what to make of the term “well read” because I did not assume reading any of those books constitutes being “well read”. Can someone tell me what I have to read or avoid reading in order to be “well read”? There’s lots of stuff I read and could read and still be considered very UNwell….sick even.

  11. SteveO January 9, 2017 at 10:45 am #

    “Did the Russians make Hillary Clinton look bad? Or did Hillary Clinton manage to do that herself?”

    The answer to that is obvious. Even without Wikileaks or Comey’s shenanigans, Hillary was never a popular candidate. This country has Clinton/Bush/Obama fatigue. The only way she would have been elected was if she had run against someone as repugnant as Romney. Worse, the election was set up for that to happen.

  12. malthuss January 9, 2017 at 10:54 am #

    According to wikipedia’s article defining hate crime, whites were the third group after lgbt and blacks to suffer violent attacks between 2008 and 2012.

    The term, ‘Hate Crime’ is bogus.
    And attacks by Blacks on all races are at the top.
    Most murderers are from 3% of USA population.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 11:19 am #

      You’re the second person to cite that statistic. Here’s the link:


      Whites come in third provided you sort the table by “Violent hate crimes against”. That’s not exactly a compelling statistic when you consider that white people generically remain the largest racial grouping in the U.S. (The estimated population is also listed right there, if you or AHtheHumanity were paying attention.)

      A more accurate indication comes from the rate per 100,000 population, since that gives an idea of how likely a person is to be victim of a hate-motivated crime.

      – Total hate crimes: Jews are the most targeted at 84.9 per 100,000, followed by LGBT at 66.9, Muslims at 41.1, blacks at 34.4, aboriginals at 12.4, and so on. White people come in at 1.5 per 100,000.

      – Violent hate crimes: Here it’s LGBT people at 35.6 per 100,000, followed by Muslims, blacks, then Jews. Whites come in at 0.7 hate-motivated violent crimes per 100,000.

      If you’re a white person who also respects facts, you should feel very reassured by the above. Do you?

      • malthuss January 9, 2017 at 11:48 am #

        Check crime statistics and pay attention.

        Rape, 35,000 Whites raped by Blacks
        Murders, 500? Whites murdered by Blacks.

        Meanwhile in South Africa, since Lord Mandela took over,
        80,000? Whites killed for being White.

        The notion of ‘Hate Crimes’ is absurd since all crimes with victims are ‘hate crimes’.

          • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 12:02 pm #

            There’s no sense in reasoning with a pasty white Windsor suburbanite hyopcrite like L.Ron. When’s the last time he ventured over the Ambassador into the sadder parts of Detroit at night? Canada doesn’t have these places. He is afforded his opinion through the comforts of white privilege… one he won’t give up or pause.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

            Thanks for the link, but I would prefer if you cite a source for those numbers.

            I see you making a point of asserting unsupported numbers about specifically white people being victimized by specifically black people. What I don’t see is you situating that in any larger-scale picture that would enable an even-handed analysis. That’s the maneuver of someone who prefers their opinions over facts, the definition of a bigot.

            As for Frankiti, I’ve been to Detroit any number of times until I moved away from that area, and what of it? Will you not be satisfied until I as well am driven by fear instead of facts and arguments?

          • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

            What you call facts are numbers crafted from whatever metric some bureaucrat used to get the politically expedient result it needed or was told to obtain. FBI #s are notorious for their inaccuracy. The same deep state controls the numbers. What you naively consider facts are manipulations in math, in numbers. You’re too foolish to realize. The fact is you do nothing about the facts you believe, but lament them from your laptop. Poseur.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

            Yet the same wise Frankiti wants open borders with an endless flow of Brown and Black criminals pouring into our country. He’s just annoyed at Elrond’s stupidity. Smart people find stupidity in otherwise smart people, unbearable.

            It’s said Bill Clinton spoke up an Elite event when he heard the same old tired “underclass Whites perceive they are being unjustly impacted”. He simply pointed out that they are being decimated. Not that he really cares, but rather he probably just couldn’t stand the self delusion being perpetrated.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

            Frankiti: “What you call facts are numbers crafted from whatever metric some bureaucrat used to get the politically expedient result it needed or was told to obtain.”

            Uh, which numbers do you mean?

            – It was AHtheHumanity and malthuss who cited the Wikipedia article, not me. Therefore if anyone asserted the numbers from that article as facts, it was them, not me. And they were both making the same claim: That white people are the third-most targeted group for hate crimes. What I did do was point out that this is a misrepresentation of the numbers they supplied, and in fact those very numbers clearly indicate white people are mostly safe from hate crimes compared to other groups.

            malthuss came back with unsourced numbers telling one side of what he purports to be a story. I requested that he cite a source. That source could be his anus for all I know right now, but in any case those are malthuss’ numbers, not mine. Are you trying to say there’s a bureaucrat in malthuss’ anus?

            Frankiti: “What you naively consider facts are manipulations in math, in numbers.”

            Then you should tell AHtheHumanity and malthuss to do better. Or you could just openly embrace nihilism, and declare you’ll reject facts that contradict your opinion while embracing fantasies you feel good about.

          • janet January 9, 2017 at 6:30 pm #

            “Or you could just openly embrace nihilism, and declare you’ll reject facts that contradict your opinion while embracing fantasies you feel good about.” –Elrond Hubbard

            Excellent reply! And probably the choice of many on CFN. Facts can be so inconvenient that the source must be doubted.

            Believe me, bureaucrats do not receive enough pay to be thinking ahead to how numbers might be used in order to nefariously change the numbers to support some kind of political argument in the future… how would they do that, not knowing what kind of political argument the numbers would need to support?

            Paranoia… fact-free paranoia… runs free on CFN. The Census data is trustworthy. The FBI crime statistics are trustworthy. The Bureau of Labor Statistics data is trustworthy. The ADP payroll data is trustworthy. There is no way hundreds of thousands of independent data points collected independently by businesses and bureaucrats can be manipulated to support some unknown future argument a politician might want to make.

            And just because we are on the subject: The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post and the rest of the “main stream media” do not tell lies and are not pushing any narrative mandated by TPTB. They are professional journalists who are after the truth. They are not making shit up like some CFN posts do. When the main stream media do offer opinion, it is labeled as opinion.

            The main stream media are also inconvenient to politicians and to those pushing fact-free paranoia, because the news media ask questions and expose malfeasance. That is why people like Trump want to demonize media sources, discredit them in the eyes of the citizenry. It is why Trump and Hillary both refuse to hold regular press conferences.

            The more in the dark and confused the citizens are, the better for the politicians. The more cynical the citizens are, the better for the politicians. If you don’t believe in anything, if you distrust everyone and all news sources, then the politicians can get away with anything. You have been effectively disarmed by your cynicism. Because of your paranoia you no longer believe in truth.

            You are ripe for exploitation by fake news sites who want to blame it on “them” … always blame it on “them” … the fake news sites will tell you who “they” are so you can know who is at fault. Then you can continue with your pitchfork fantasies about “them” (the bankers, the Jews, the politicians, the Blacks, the feminists, the snowflakes on campus, the politically correct, the tattooed, the government, the Mexicans, the immigrants, those on food stamps, the differently gendered, the liberals, etc. … whoever you are told to mistrust and blame for your unhappiness.)

      • AHtheHumanity January 12, 2017 at 1:30 am #

        I am paying attention. I posted the link first before you did. The reason I posted the wiki link is because it compares what actually happened…not what is likely to happen.

        I’m not using the links to promote an agenda of fear mongering. You can and do read whatever you want to read out of statistics…everyone does. I am just putting it out there for discussion and not to belittle anyone or any group.

        All lives matter. Blacks hated are in the lead followed by LGBT hated. There…I pointed it out…I care about them too. The stats say nothing about what RACE performed the 8,000 plus violent acts. Maybe i could assert based on just THIS data that the whites came in third because the blacks and LGBT retaliated and hated them whites who attacked them…which according to you is not very likely to happen looking at only these numbers. Anyone got those stats about retaliation from the victims of hate crimes? Thanks.

        • Elrond Hubbard January 12, 2017 at 11:04 am #

          Data is my living in real life, so I tend to be particular about these things. Let’s say there’s something that happens 100 times. What does that mean, a hundred? To make sense out of it, you need to be thinking also about things like:

          – The length of time that represents (is that 100 times in a day? A week? A year?)
          – How the number was come up with (e.g. was a study done on 100 college students because they happened to be handy, or on 100 people of all different kinds, out living in the world, which is more work?)
          – How many opportunities were there for that thing to happen? (A hundred robberies in a town of 10,000 people in one year is a lot more significant for that town than it would be in a town of 100,000 or a million.)

          The last one is the most important here, because in a sense every day represents an “opportunity” to be the victim of a hate crime. Going back to the Wikipedia article, there were 3,849 violent hate crimes in total against LGBT people and 1,614 against whites, which is less than half but in a similar ballpark (well within an order of magnitude). Yet the estimated population of LGBT people is 9 million versus more than 223 million whites, which is a totally different ballpark.

          That’s why going by the absolute number is misleading: white people are so much less likely to be victims that they had to be a far, far larger group to register that high a number. To put it another way, Gary Johnson came in third in the 2016 presidential election. How big a deal is that? You have to fit your expectations to the facts, not the other way around like our bigoted friends around here do.

          • AHtheHumanity January 13, 2017 at 1:15 am #

            Okay…you can also read in the original hate crime linked chart :

            Hate Crimes in the USA (2008-2012) by Population Group
            Population Group Estimated Population Total Hate Crimes Against (2008-2012) [13][14][15][16][17] Rate (per 100,000 people) Violent Hate Crimes Against[18] Rate (per 100,000 people)
            Jewish 5,248,674[19] 4,457 84.9 411 7.8
            LGBT 9,000,000[20] 7,231 66.9 3,849 35.6
            Muslim 1,852,473[19] 761 41.1 258 13.9
            Black 38,929,319[21] 13,411 34.4 4,356 11.2
            Aboriginal 2,932,248[21] 364 12.4 161 5.5
            Hispanic 50,477,594[21] 3,064 6.1 1,482 2.9
            Asian & Pacific Islander 15,214,265[21] 798 5.2 276 1.8
            White 223,553,265[21] 3,459 1.5 1,614 0.7
            Catholic 67,924,018[22] 338 0.5 32 0.0
            Atheist & Agnostic 17,598,496[22] 47 0.3 5 0.0
            Protestant 148,197,858[22] 229 0.2 17 0.0
            Heterosexual 297,939,444[20] 118 0.0 42 0.0
            Among the current groups of the Hate Crimes Statistics Act, the greatest number of hate crimes are committed against African Americans.[23]

            1) that there are “hidden” facts/numbers like:

            “per 100,000 people” who are BLACK/JEW/WHITE/LGBT
            “per 100,000 people” who are U.S. citizens
            “per 100,000 people” who are in the U.S. at any given time
            “per 100,000 people” who are in a state/county/city

            2) RATIO of hate crimes being VIOLENT

            against blacks – about 1 out of every 3 HATE CRIME VICTIMS

            against jews – about 1 out of every 1000 HATE CRIME VICTIMS

            against whites (jews could fall under ‘over all WHITE Victims’ but were extracted due to being reported as a HATE CRIME) – about 1 out of every 2 HATE CRIME VICTIMS

            against lgbt (could fall under any other of the HATE CRIME categories but was extracted because of being reported as a HATE CRIME VICTIM…therefore we can say that this could be a BLACK ON BLACK CRIME) – about 4 out of every 7 HATE CRIME VICTIMS

            Staying within the TIME FRAME of 2012 I present another link to BLACK ON BLACK CRIME reported by BREITBART:


            cited source Richard Johnson PhD University of Toledo: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DqQNfjf4zKAJ:www.forcescience.org/forcepresentation.ppt+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

            “The data for this analysis came from the 2009-2012 Uniform Crime Report’s Supplemental Homicide Reports published annually by the federal government.”

          • Elrond Hubbard January 13, 2017 at 11:18 am #

            The concept of “black-on-black crime” is a total red herring in any debate over racial justice. (I am shocked — shocked! — to learn that people sometimes have the same skin colour as other people who are harming them.) And mind you, a red herring means not just a distraction but a deliberate distraction away from a legitimate target.

            Let’s use an analogy. Dear old Father Jones becomes the new priest at a local parish. A year or two later, there is a scandal — it seems 15-year-old Janey Smith is pregnant, and she reveals that Father Jones is the, uh, father. (This actually happened at the high school I attended.) Father Jones explains that Janey came to him for help because her father, John Smith, had been raping her, and one thing led to another. John Smith gets charged for abusing his daughter. Father Jones hires a lawyer who points a finger at this Smith-on-Smith violence as a reason why his client is also a victim. Do you buy it?

            People get harmed by people. People who make a big deal of about members of unfavoured groups hurting each other are selling you a bill of goods. It’s a way of distracting attention away from favoured groups and sparing them from responsibility for their own misdeeds.

          • AHtheHumanity January 13, 2017 at 9:30 pm #

            Should rape be classified as a hate crime?

            Someone else on here already pointed to the red herring which is ALL CRIME IS HARMFUL and not just “hate crime”.

            What motivates people to commit crimes? Jealousy. The very first murder in the Bible was about jealousy of a close family member. A jealous person does not need a REAL reason to be jealous, they use their imaginations most of the time, to feel slighted. Other times they might have a real reason to be jealous and their goal is to make the other parties involved feel as miserable as they do. That could lead to violence or not depending on the persons self control.

            Current laws state that sex with minors with their consent is automatically classified as rape. Sex offenders are treated differently than other felons because they are registered as such for the rest of their lives and not allowed to live or work with minors. I’m not sure if they are allowed to live with their own children…

    • Dumbedup January 10, 2017 at 10:33 am #

      Everyone likes to quote a line from a post and respond to that particular line. I find it intellectually dishonest to argue with phrases and not themes. But the gist of your post seems to be that hate crimes are bogus. At least you’ve said it several times.

      So let me ask you. Should burning a cross in front of a black church be prosecuted as a simple trespass?

      Hate crimes have specific definitions in the law which differentiate them from other crimes because they are directed at a particular class of people based on bigotry.

      • AHtheHumanity January 12, 2017 at 2:17 am #

        “A hate crime (also known as a bias-motivated crime) is a prejudice-motivated crime, which occurs when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her membership (or perceived membership) in a certain social group…

        A hate crime law is a law intended to deter bias-motivated violence. … hate crime laws enhance the penalties associated with conduct that is already criminal under other laws,…” Wikipedia.org

        This is not cited from a law journal or specific state or federal law code…it’s just a simple lay definition written by anonymous contributors to the encyclopedia and discussed/corrected/edited by other registered users of wikipedia.org

        I have not read the article JHK has posted…I simply looked at the picture and the title as presented in his blog and posted my reaction to his question. Obviously the creator of this story is looking for a reaction as well. Any editor or writer (as we all know Kunstler has history of being in the main stream media) will be concerned about their readers reactions to what they see on the surface of their articles. Do I want to read this article. NO. The reason I don’t want to read this article is not because I do not care about white or black people. The reason I do not want to read about this event is because I got the story somewhere else first. I already know what I need to know and not what someone else wants me to know. It’s not the first time something like this has happened. I understand how young people think, white/black/asian does not matter, they are young impressionable KIDS. Kids fight for all kinds of reason or just for NO REASON. KIDS/YOUNG PEOPLE are very cruel and unreasonable.

        This story comes on the heals of the major story about mass mall rampages of youth (black youth). Parents were told to mind their children…no race was targeted as far as I could see by the press. It was emphasized that the individual rampages should be analysed on a case by case basis and not over generalized or group together as some mass hysteria sweeping the nation because there were very few occurrences of the mall hysterics when compared with what happens in the rest of the malls of America. Do malls suffer from crimes at the hands of minors…most certainly. Is it out of hand and beyond the authorities control (mall cops/parents)? No. Malls hire minors. Malls target minors. Malls exist for the minors as well as the adults. They have extensive experience with minors and crowds. They know what they are doing and it is safe for your minors or your parents to go to malls to shop. As far as people congregating and NOT conducting business…buying/selling…they can be asked to leave a mall at any time because they are LOITERING. Were the mall cops doing their jobs in these malls of thousands of loitering minors? Only when it blew up in their faces.

  13. teddyboy46 January 9, 2017 at 10:59 am #

    Dig this JFK took on the CIA and tried to get control of the Military and we all know the Misfortune that befell him. Now if Trump was also Assassinated it would give the Liberials no end of satisfaction. But it would prove my belief that Military runs this country and the President is their Bitch.

  14. Poet January 9, 2017 at 11:04 am #

    JHK is old enough and smart enough to realize that his deep state vs. the US citizenry has been going on longer than the last 30 years.
    It was cultivating “journalists” all the way back to WWI in an effort to provoke the US to accept going to war in Europe.
    It was directing a substantial part of the monies given to the Marshall Plan to manipulate elections (especially in France, Italy, and Greece) so that “our side won”.
    It was only somewhat slowed down by Ike, who in his first term demanded that all the military cut their budgets by 10% across the board. Then, when all his commanders predicted dire consequences, Ike laughingly told all the objecting brass (most of whom had been junior officers to him during WWII) that he (Ike) had forgotten more than they ever knew about military procurement.
    Then came Ike’s heart attack, Sputnik, and the deep state was off and running like a team of wild horses on the loose. Ike’s final dignified hoisting of his middle finger of contempt was his famous warning in his farewell address of the dangers of the military industrial complex.
    It was going on when all the joint chiefs of the military, the national security council and the collective Intel establishment told JFK that if he didn’t risk nuclear war by invading Cuba to remove Soviet nukes that the country was doomed.
    It was behind the scenes puling the strings that first forced the loopy Spiro Agnew removed and then got Richard Nixon drummed out of office with the cascading scandal called Watergate. All that tricky Dick could do was to make sure that Gerald Ford became his successor (and granted him a pardon before he ever was charged with anything).
    Americans watched and took it all in like some boffo entertainment spectacle (remember this was before the institution of super bowl half-time shows were created!).
    Now all we can hope for is that the obtuse oaf getting set to occupy the White House is dumber by a half than even the deep state took him to be.
    Let’s also hope and pray that Pence in not some new LBJ craving to be a kind of Protestant Pope over the US after his boss unexpectedly dies and the VP (crying crocodile tears all the way) takes over. All that being said, the alternative of Hillary in command wold have been worse to contemplate. Such are the choices that confront us in 2016

    • SteveO January 9, 2017 at 11:15 am #

      Now the “tweeter in chief” will keep to masses far more entertained/distracted than any Superbowl halftime wardrobe malfunction.

      Meanwhile the deep state marches forward.

    • abbybwood January 9, 2017 at 5:08 pm #

      Don’t forget “The Business Plot” against FDR where several millionaire corporatists tried to get Gen. Smedley Butler to lead a coup against FDR and it failed. They even had Congressional hearings all about it and what did FDR do? He let them slide.

      Had he had them tried for treason and had they been found guilty by a jury and had they all been hung in front of The White House we might have a very different country today:


  15. Beryl of Oyl January 9, 2017 at 11:08 am #

    Thank you, Mr. Kunstler. You have no idea what it means to me, to have someone who doesn’t share my feelings about Donald as president, who nonetheless sees what I see in what’s going on.
    I notice that someone who used to work for the CIA, on CNN, worked the word “pedophile” into his statements about Julian Assange. I can’t exactly explain how, but the moment I heard that is the moment I knew that there was substance to some of the rumors about the Podesta emails.
    Mike Morrell, that pillar of virtue, claims that spies aren’t going to want to spy or something like that, if we don’t buy this “assessment” business. I don’t know any spies personally, at least I don’t think I do, but from knowing the dedicated but non-partisan government employees I know, the ones that do the actual work the taxpayers pay them to do, my “assessment” is that what these spies really want is for characters like Mike Morell to be gone.
    BTW, how ’bout that FBI? What’s the death toll now, how many Americans killed by terrorists they knew about in advance? Why would anyone listen to anything the FBI has to say about anything? If they aren’t incompetent, they are something much worse.

  16. shotho January 9, 2017 at 11:18 am #

    The current propaganda campaign to impugn Trump and deligitimize his administration is truly amazing to behold and, so far, it seems to be working. It also seems very obvious, but, then, propaganda usually does. The forces raised against him are formidable and it’s doubtful he can marshal enough support to do much of anything, especially when the entrenched financial situation explodes.
    So, are we going to have a new cold war, either against Russia and/or China?

    • SteveO January 10, 2017 at 8:50 am #

      The neo-cons of both corporate parties have been trying to get their beloved cold war with the Russians going again since the break up of the USSR 25 years ago. My biggest hope for Trump is that he drives a stake in the heart of the neo-cons, but I’m not holding my breath. In the late 90s and early 2000s we had the opportunity to establish a live-and-let-live relationship with Russia but folk like Hillary Clinton, John McCain and Dick Cheney prevented that.

      My prediction is that Trump will talk tough against China and make a lot of provocative tweets, but once you get past the reality TV style distractions you’ll find its more BAU.

  17. bukowskisghost January 9, 2017 at 11:28 am #

    He tweets because the MSM has always been on a mission to twist his words to suit their agenda . GM lied about the production of Cruze sedans and the MSM tried to cover their corporate behinds as usual. BTW, I’d hardly call Obama suave, he is the end result of affirmative action, in effect the Peter Principle in black face.

  18. K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 11:43 am #

    I was delighted when the fake news websites list was released because I knew there would be some new sites worth reading in the list so I added the entire list (except for links that vanished) to my own little corner of the web.

    See the list here.

    If anybody actually follows all the links from the original list as I did in assigning them different colors they will realize that the list was nothing more than a ragtag collection thrown together in somebodies last minute. A few of the sites were simply anti-Trunp and nothing more than that. The count of sites which has anything to to with Russia is a small handful.

    • venuspluto67 January 9, 2017 at 12:08 pm #

      I think the only thing all those websites had in common was that they had at some point either criticized Israel or disagreed with all of or some aspect of neocon foreign policy. That’s the only way one could conceivably put Counterpunch.org on the same list as neo-nazi websites.

      • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

        Yes Counterpunch is one of the more respectable members of the list (and one of the many I already had) and their inclusion was obviously political motivated by nothing else but that.

        In going through the list I realized that for the most part the members of the list are simply sites with low standards on what they will print. Sites hungry for news, any news. On might naively dismiss such sites yet those are exactly the sites which having low standards, will from time to time publish the truth when nobody else will.

        There is no such thing as Fake News because it is all fake news until you check it out yourself. Nobody else can do it for you because they might be ‘faking you out’.

        Don’t give away your power; check out important stories yourself! You can do it because you have the web and are clever.

        • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 12:48 pm #

          I can’t understand why Counterpunch is on the list. I understand why Moon of Alabama is. In part, it’s the commentary which consists of some real Scumbags, a number of whom are Russian Cyber Goons. Plus, Moon of Alabama has morphed into a site that’s Anti-Americanism 24/7. It’s gone beyond being merely critical. It’s goal is to help transform America into a docile Russian vassal state. It never has an unkind word to say about Russia. Ever. EVER.

          • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 1:57 pm #

            Moon of Alabama is a site that has been under scrutiny for quite a while by Homeland Security. Sites which have been under heavy scrutiny by the deep state seem to have made the list quite easily. That could explain why Counterpunch also made the list.

            Sometimes Homeland Security trolls make the mistake of ‘talking shop’ and give themselves away. That is how I know that ‘Moon’ is closely watched.

          • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 3:51 pm #

            I had to come back to this Cold.

            Homeland Security Trolldom 101.

            HST 101:

            Class notes week one,

            Subject: On the manufacture of consent.

            An example was given in Kunsler weekly blog comments.

            Commenter Cold N. Holefield said concerning website Moon of Alabama:

            “It never has an unkind word to say about Russia. Ever. EVER.”

            Here the commenter Cold N. Holefield found that comments being made at MoA as an example of plants to support the generation of a false narrative. Cold went on to say:

            “it’s the commentary which consists of some real Scumbags”

            (from lecture)

            Making HS trolls into scumbags allows for easy transfer of a HS troll avatar between HS operators. The script is easy to follow. Additionally troll identity by virtue of being cast as a ‘scumbag’ has emotional impact on blog visitors opening the door for hypnotic suggestion. The technique of being a scumbag is also employed when HS operators assume a ‘honeypot‘ role (to be discussed next week).

            Yet despite his discovery Cold N. Holefield did not appreciate and went on to advertise the false narrative he found by saying.

            “It’s goal is to help transform America into a docile Russian vassal state.”

            The emotional subjugation by the HS scumbag bully role was shown to be sufficient for Cold to forget that Russia would never be so direct and obvious. Cold himself having pontificated himself that Putin is not a stupid man.

          • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 3:59 pm #

            Yet despite his discovery Cold N. Holefield did not appreciate what he had found and went on to advertise the MoA false narrative by saying.

            “It’s goal is to help transform America into a docile Russian vassal state.”

            I’ll fix it before Q does.

          • abbybwood January 9, 2017 at 5:24 pm #

            Why was Truthdig on the list? The Drudge Report?? Drudge links to practically every “acceptable” news site in the country!

          • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

            Do you really have to ask the question why TruthDig would be repressed? They do tend to dig for inconvenient truths. The drudge report does link to respectable sites true, but Drudge will also link to news which runs counter to the official narrative.

            Really you are answering your own question. If the list was about real propaganda many sites on the list would not be listed. The purpose of the list is repression and my guess is a few people are getting into a bit of trouble right now because the plan is not working out so well. People in America are getting quite tired of having their chains yanked and the deceptions are not working out as planned.

            Of course only one person in a thousand is actually going to go through the list methodically and see that the obvious purpose is a pale attempt at discrediting the listed sites as I have so one could say:


  19. daveed January 9, 2017 at 11:49 am #


    I guess you’re gonna have to ‘splain it to me. I’m not sure ‘what’s wrong with this picture’. Is it the obvious savagery inflicted on the mentally-challenged kid? That’s certainly wrong, to put it mildly.
    Or are you referring to the way the story was written? The headline? Something about the photo? I’m not being sarcastic.

    • venuspluto67 January 9, 2017 at 12:11 pm #

      While I’m not sure who the people in the picture are, I would guess they are the victim’s immediate family. JHK is probably (he’ll have to back me up on this) criticizing the fact that the NYT is showing that picture instead of a picture of the perpetrators.

      • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 12:25 pm #

        Agree. It’s The Framing of the issue.

      • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 12:45 pm #

        The mainstream media did try and spin the story a bit but I had no trouble getting to the facts last week nor will anybody else if they actually take the time to look for what really happened.

        It is a case of racism. Not reverse racism because there is no such thing. Simply racism. Anybody can be racist regardless of what color thy are. The only requirement is ignorance.

        • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

          Everyone knows that PC kept the mugshots off the front page. It would be black demonization otherwise. Black fear mongering.
          Newspeak and newthought and the news won’t have it; not fit to print

          • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 8:55 pm #

            It could be too that they don’t want anyone lynched. Black 18 year old Chicagonians are not the only racists in America.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 9:23 pm #

            K-Dog: “It could be too that they don’t want anyone lynched.”

            Paul Schrader wrote the screenplay for Taxi Driver. In the DVD commentary, he mentions that the character of Sport the pimp was written as black. That likely would have been more realistic, but they cast Harvey Keitel in the role because they frankly feared provoking riots otherwise.

        • abbybwood January 9, 2017 at 5:27 pm #

          CNN Democrat strategist mocks disabled boy beaten by four Black youths in Chicago:


          “Oh my goodness! Poor white people!”

    • James Howard Kunstler January 9, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

      The people in the photo were not identified. Were readers supposed to think they were the assailants?
      They could have run mugshots of the perps?

      • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 4:05 pm #

        Go to InfoWars Alex Jones has them on the front page.


      • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 4:12 pm #

        The assailant’s photos in order.

        Tesfaye Cooper, Brittany Covington, Jordan Hill, and Tanishia Covington.

        The photos are actually everywhere and I got the names to match the photos from CNN.

        • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 4:31 pm #

          I think we were suppose to answer what was wrong with the picture.

          The picture is of victim family spokesman David Boyd and unidentified others holding a news conference. The banner across the bottom suggests they are perpetrators of the hate crime and not actual family of the victim which is most likely the case.

          This is very unprofessional reporting.

      • thwack January 9, 2017 at 7:24 pm #

        The people in the photo were not identified. Were readers supposed to think they were the assailants?
        They could have run mugshots of the perps?

        Right Jim,

        in addition, I think the family’s go fund me page is up to $100,000 by now.

        Not a bad days work for a retard?

        BTW– if some white person out there is willing to beat me up while calling me a ni66er, and livestream it to face book;

        I will split the money from the go fund me page?

        If you are a white cop, thats even better

        Or if you have a better plan to profit from peoples rage, let me know?

        I love this country

        • K-Dog January 9, 2017 at 8:58 pm #

          Can you link to the go fund me page or are you full of shit?

        • thwack January 10, 2017 at 8:57 am #

          “the heartlessness of the Black in on display here.” –Janus


          Yeah, but what would Hitler do?

  20. Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 11:55 am #

    To Tweet or not to Tweet — that is the question.

    He Tweets because he is. I don’t Tweet, therefore I’m not.

    Twitter allows us access to Donald Trump’s Inner Core. It’s Unfiltered. It’s Unbleached. It hasn’t been Airbrushed. It’s the unfettered essence of Insanity and I’m lovin’ every minute of it not just because it’s now the Laughing Stock Face of America, but because I relish watching The Liberals go Apeshit over his latest Twitter Ejaculations. It’s like a car stuffed with too many people, Donald being one of them, and he, Donald, can’t stop farting. Thankfully, I’m not in the car with them, but it hilarious to watch.

    • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 12:05 pm #

      America has always been a laughing stock. Travel some. People the world over are utterly puzzled and awestruck by the complexities of the 3-ring-circus of America. An inventive, creative cultural wasteland that continually and epically surprises and disappoints.

      • venuspluto67 January 9, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

        Yeah, sometimes I think, “Cheese and rice, what educated people from other countries must think when they visit this open-air insane-asylum of a country.”

        • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

          I’m thinking more along the lines of Bacon & High Fructose Corn Syrup. It’s what’s for dinner — and lunch and breakfast too and all the snacks in between.

        • messianicdruid January 9, 2017 at 8:50 pm #

          I prefer Michael Hoffman’s description of the US; “a huge open-air mind control experiment”.

      • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

        I don’t need to “travel some” to know America is a Laughing Stock. All I have to do is look out my window or watch the window in my family room called the TV tuned to The News. My comment doesn’t preclude this basic fact — that America’s always been a Laughing Stock. My comment merely points out that Donald Trump is NOW THAT face.

        • SteveO January 10, 2017 at 8:56 am #

          Good observation. We have become reality TV nation and Trump is the face of reality TV.

      • Sean Coleman January 9, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

        I have never been to America but my guess is that Europe is in a worse state culturally and intellectually. It is certainly fake news around the clock here.

        Just to take one example, people here believe that ‘refugees’ crossing the Mediterranean are being tricked by ‘evil people traffickers’ who take their money and don’t even provide sea-worthy boats to make the crossing. (The word ‘evil’ is important, by the way, in the comic book narrative.) They don’t seem to understand that they have to sink if they want to be picked up to get in, because a sea-worthy vessel docking at a European port would be sent back. At least, that is how I see it.

        And I am talking about the journalists here so what hope does the ordinary man have of finding out what is going on? Not only are the media lying to them they actually believe the nonsense.

        • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 1:55 pm #

          The problem, very fundamentally, is that we are calling agents of propaganda, spin, marketing, and disinformation “journalists”. Remind yourself that these are middle class people fighting for wages that are told to write whatever story their editors want.
          Independent journalism is dead, and has been for ages.

          • Sean Coleman January 10, 2017 at 9:19 am #

            I agree that they have to give the story that their editor wants (and what their colleagues and their circle of friends want) but they still *believe* it. Some are clearly proud of the ‘passion’ of their beliefs.

            I think that when you live in a fantasy you react angrily to any challenge to your fantasy world, but in the end you hit a solid wall of reality (as JHK keeps reminding us) and then you stop believing. And then what?

          • ozone January 10, 2017 at 10:40 am #

            “I think that when you live in a fantasy you react angrily to any challenge to your fantasy world, but in the end you hit a solid wall of reality (as JHK keeps reminding us) and then you stop believing. And then what?”

            Then comes a bitter epiphany that we’ve been badly used in a massive extraction scheme and that our rulers mean us no good. Then, preparation for classic lean periods (if time yet remains). Then, a tumbling collapse to the next downhill plateau of “normalization”. Then, the breakdown of infrastructure by dribs and drabs. …Altogether a deepening of the Long Emergency, which I’m sure you’ve seen casting a gradual pall over the earth since the globalists geared up their campaign after WWII.
            …Prepare accordingly. If some miracle should intercede, we certainly won’t be any worse off and may have actually gained some skills and knowledge in the meantime.
            …And beware demagogues, cargo cultists and false hope.

    • Q. Shtik January 9, 2017 at 12:16 pm #

      Thankfully, I’m not in the car with them, but [it] hilarious to watch. – Cold


      Good points tru and tru (as I would say if I were a North Jersey Italian) but it’s it’s.

      • Cold N. Holefield January 9, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

        Yeah, I know. I caught it after I posted, but, as we know, it was too late and too late in that regard is your bread & butter.

    • capt spaulding January 9, 2017 at 1:54 pm #

      Excellent observation.

  21. Sean Coleman January 9, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

    Another excellent article.

    I barely read the papers and I tend not to believe what they say, because of exaggeration, omission, bias, manipulating context, laziness, incompetence or the strange perceptual condition that afflicts ‘people of political correctness’ whereby they see what is not there, do not see what is there, refuse to see what is shoved under their nose and in short cannot and will not see the wood from the trees or their arse from their elbow.

    So, to find out about anything you have to spend much more time doing your own investigation than you would if you could rely on the press.

    I understood that the Russian hacking was simply based on allegations without evidence, that is, that the security services did not give any, for whatever excuses they had.

    Later on I heard in passing that some kind of ‘code’ (or whatever) which apparently is connected to Russia (or, to use the current personal demonization, ‘Putin’) in the computer system of some East Coast energy company or other. When I regained consciousness after the shock it apparently transpired that the computer was a stand-alone laptop.

    Have I got this right? Is there any evidence for Russia’s (sorry, Putin’s) involvement?

    • venuspluto67 January 9, 2017 at 12:17 pm #

      This informative article by Glenn Greenwald will open to your eyes as to just how much this country has its collective head up its ass. And it discusses the entirely fake hacked-utility story. This country is so very fucked on so many levels. All we can do at this point is just wait for the proverbial other shoe to drop.

      • aNanyMouse January 9, 2017 at 4:07 pm #

        Glenzilla has been earning that nickname for over a decade.
        He, Moskos, the Archdruid, and JHK, are part of what makes the best of the Web hugely better than the MSM Punditocracy.

      • SteveO January 10, 2017 at 9:07 am #

        Interesting story, but it’s about the electrical utility hacking, not the DNC hacking.

      • Sean Coleman January 11, 2017 at 11:11 am #


        It is a very good article. He gives a very good summary of the possible motivations: ideological and political; pleasing the audience; ‘access and source servitude’ (the newspaper can be relied upon to disseminate security agencies’ stories); profit.

        He gets closer later to what I see as the main driver when he discusses ‘groupthink’.

        This is what interests me in particular and I tend to go on about it because it is not given its due. While the media have their own selfish and self-interested reasons for peddling the nonsense (as listed above) the fact is that they believe it. Witch hunts and hysteria apparently interfere with the ability of people to perceive what is happening.

        The late English journalist Richard Webster wrote more insightfully about modern witch hunts than anyone else I know and his Sceptical Essays website is a must-read.

        This essay is paraticularly good (Part 2 is also on his site) and looks at the history of campaigning journalism:


        A stand-out sentence begins: ‘Having long ago come to the conclusion that we live within a collective fantasy, or a set of collective delusions, and that the news media are one of the principal means by which we maintain this fantasy-version of reality…’

        His Secret of Bryn Estyn is a lengthy and very well researched dissection of a witch hunt in the ‘childrens” homes of North Wales.

    • Sean Coleman January 9, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

      I think I got the story about the laptop here (about 19mins 30sec):


      The French have a word for it, ‘bobard’.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

        I’m not able to view the video you linked, but there’s an informative podcast called Security Now! that covers computer and Internet security issues. Here are their show notes from last week:


        I’ll quote the relevant bits below.

        Headlines: “Russian malware detected in US electricity utility.”

        – Lots of smoke and noise.
        – Some malware associated with a known Russian hacking campaign known as “Grizzly Steppe” was found on a single, isolated, laptop owned by a Burlington, Vermont electric utility.
        – However… that laptop was not and had nothing to do with the electric power grid operation and management.
        – Everybody take a deep breath.
        – And speaking of hyperventilation:
        – Vermont’s state governor, Peter Shumlin, said in a statement: “Vermonters and all Americans should be both alarmed and outraged that one of the world’s leading thugs, Vladimir Putin, has been attempting to hack our electric grid, which we rely upon to support our quality of life, economy, health, and safety.”
        – Peter Welch, a Democratic US representative for Vermont, said Russian hacking was “rampant… systemic, relentless, predatory” and added: “They will hack everywhere, even Vermont, in pursuit of opportunities to disrupt our country.”
        – Great… so we’ve been talking about the inherent vulnerabilities of our power grid for quite some time, yet no one appears will to find or raise and commit the money that is going to be required to fix it.

        Further information here for anyone who’s interested. (It’s episode #593.)


        • Sean Coleman January 9, 2017 at 12:49 pm #


          That is hilarious: rampant, systemic, relentless, predatory.

          More hysteria, as expected.

          Predatory is how the late Jimmy Savile is described. He had super powers though which is why nobody saw him, even though he committed his crimes ‘in plain sight’ and ‘spent every waking minute’ planning them. These two clichés are the two most popular, after ‘predatory’. He also ‘groomed the nation’!

          Dangerous though. For example, I think Britain went to war in 1914 (quite unnecessarily) on a wave of hysteria from what I can make out.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 3:18 pm #

            Yes, C.S Lewis describes the troops on the train laughing about what nonsense it all was. He was appalled: if they believed that, why were they going?

            They were right, he was wrong. As Orwell said, the Proles are often wiser about such things than the middle class.

  22. pequiste January 9, 2017 at 12:44 pm #

    The New York Times? The “newspaper of record” of the U.S.A.?

    To my mind a veritable laughing stock; propaganda organ of the “Liberal” Upper East Side of Manhattan – CHuck Schumer’s kind of folks; a waste of a good trees; so bad that I do not let my parakeet have target practice at it – might disturb the sensitive little budgerigars sense of balance. It is the flip side of the old Soviet Pravda – instead the NYT is paid for by firms like Prada.

    Who was it who posed the “Beauty Boy” phenomenon last weeks missive?

    Well the same New York Times published a glowing report on the brave men who are conquering the final frontier of masculinity’s last gleaming:


    Actually the “Beauty Boy” phenomenon is sort of like the Deep State conundrum we face here – no matter how much makeup you put on the bastards, they are still bald-face frauds.

    In keeping with the Deep State’s record of outstanding foreign affairs and military accomplishments this century: a Marine contingent is going back to “difficult to control” Helmand province in Afghanistan. We have been there for an unbelievable16 years.

    • I can’t say I agree that an article written by a woman in the “Art and Design” section of the New York Times is where masculinity’s last stand will take place.

      As far as the Deep State’s role in Afghanistan? At this point paying to play there with the multi-million dollar toys our tax dollars have paid for is a priceless bargain. Real targets are hard to find in the American southwest.

      • JimInFlorida January 9, 2017 at 8:02 pm #

        Masculinity’s last stand is already established and is virtually impenetrable.

        MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) is a rapidly growing narrative and way of life that is the ONLY way out for men, both White and Black.

        YouTube has many MGTOW channels, some are better than others, of course. The best MGTOW channel, IMO, is “Messenger Rising.” He has the MGTOW monk concept nailed down and is a battle-scarred veteran of the U.K’s insane gynocentric courts, which is a reflection of the same madness in the U.S.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 11:12 pm #

          Yes, until the Dread Lord lifts His hand, over dead seas and withered land.

  23. FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 12:51 pm #

    I heard there is a pretty stiff competition which NATO country controls what province in Afghanistan.

    Why is that? Some provinces are “sweeter” than other?

    • pequiste January 9, 2017 at 1:05 pm #

      Poppy Bush knows the answer.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

        Papa Bush is mostly a cocaine person, opium is Democrat’s specialty.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 1:18 pm #

        I wonder which direction Trump will swing? But cocaine is much milder narcotic.

  24. FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

    Foreign policy decisions in Washington, Brussels and NATO compulsively run into Afghanistan.

    Even the formation of the composition of the European Commission was postponed until during the Wales NATO Summit were distributed the areas of responsibility of the opium center of Eurasia.

    With any other national leaders the US President spends less time than with top officials in Afghanistan.

  25. FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

    Mr. Q, have you heard of now very popular English word Precariat ?

    According to Wikipedia, In sociology and economics, the precariat is a social class formed by people suffering from precarity, which is a condition of existence without predictability or security, affecting material or psychological welfare


    I guess the opiate epidemic in US is one inventive way to solve this inconvenient problem, besides filling the coffers of the Dem Machine.

    Mr. Trump, make cocaine affordable again!

    • Q. Shtik January 9, 2017 at 2:54 pm #

      No, Finc, I hadn’t heard it until you just mentioned it. The word practically defines itself. It is a condition I worry about for all young people but especially my middle child and his squeeze. He has a sort of irregular regular job but with no bennies. She (his squeeze) does a series of gig/freelance jobs. They seem happy and always make the rent so maybe my worry is misplaced.

      Speaking for myself, I could never have bought a house and car and raised 3 kids in such a state of precarity. Thank God that is all behind me.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

        Yes, as Ivan Denisovich said at the end of the Day, Thank God, it’s over. Thank God.

        All of life is like this without God. And the more the Money Masters all allowed to prosper, the worse it will be. The first statement is existential. The second, circumstancial or relative.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 5:32 pm #

        I think Mr Kunstler used it before. I’ve heard it somewhere and if not here, where?

  26. FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 1:45 pm #

    Proletariat of the world unite! was effectively changed to

    Precariat of the world, roll over and die!

    We, Russians, had it better in 1917…

    • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 1:47 pm #

      Sorry, having a bad day, don’t pay attention…

    • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 3:29 pm #

      Look, you people managed to kill a lot of Russians, but you couldn’t hold onto the Revolution. While you were bickering, the Great Wolf of the Steppes took control. And when Stalin saw you all had no loyalty, he turned against you.

  27. volodya January 9, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

    As Andrew Bacevich sez, the end of the Cold War caught the United States completely by surprise. Why? Because the useless piles of shit we call intelligence agencies missed it. No matter, they were talking into an Establishment echo chamber that wouldn’t hear anything except what they wanted to hear.

    And they missed a great deal of other stuff too like the Iranian Revolution. Didn’t see that coming either. Oh, and who can forget Iraq’s WMDs which we were assured posed a clear and present danger.

    So we can safely assume that when the designated mouthpieces of these agencies speak, what emanates is nonsense or deliberate misinformation, which the hip people of today call “fake news”. Like this Russian hack that tilted the election in Trump’s direction. I saw some of them on TV testifying most solemnly as to its veracity looking for all the world like lying bastards.

    • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 2:28 pm #

      Let them have yellow cake

    • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 2:40 pm #

      As Andrew Bacevich sez, the end of the Cold War caught the United States completely by surprise.

      If Andrew “sez” it, he’s either a lying sack of sh-t, or totally in the dark on the subject.

      Every 5-th grader in Russian knows that the Spotted Judas Gorbachev had been prepped up by Western intelligence for at least 15 years.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 3:38 pm #

      Yes, Liberals shriek about the SEVENTEEN security agencies that have convicted Russia of hacking. Who knew there were seventeen? And is that a good thing? I thought Liberals were against the Security and Surveillance State? Evidently their priorities have changed….

    • abbybwood January 9, 2017 at 6:44 pm #

      I’m still waiting for my check from “The Peace Dividend”:


  28. malthuss January 9, 2017 at 2:38 pm #


    • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 3:24 pm #

      According to Moscow rumors Trump’s using SpezNaz GRU (Russian elite of the elite) as his protection detail, hired legally through American private security companies.

      Didn’t want to write about it, but after going through some pretty bad materials today – what the f*ck, why not?

  29. Being There January 9, 2017 at 2:55 pm #

    I wrote this week…..Is Trump the new Yeltsin?

    Happy new year…should be quite a ride for everyone…..

  30. FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2017 at 4:20 pm #

    Soros: It will start on the 25th December 2016. And the countries will crumble like dominoes

    The Christmas terrorist attack that destroyed the Ensemble of Alexandrov and Dr. Lisa was originally targeted to destroy Putin’s plane. Destruction Method – Electromagnetic signal sent from an unidentified vessel in the Black Sea, brought down BOTH GLONASS and GPS and all other navigation devices. In particular the control gyros, too, were vulnerable (in a military aircraft !!!) and gave out command that did not correspond to reality, but were in agreement with the false GPS and GLONASS signals, as in the case of error the system would automatically switch to manual operation. Just imagine the technical level of the attack?!

    An alternative version is that it was a blow to the Ensemble of Alexandrov, with the purpose to prevent a concert in Aleppo ala concert in Palmyra, with a bomb on board that was smuggled back in Moscow, and for this has been activated a sleeper agent of such high level that there is no doubt that the command was given for the start of turn of events, after which the countries will crumble like dominoes

    Both rumors emphasized the fact that the described acts of terrorism have demonstrative signature of the author, or rather, fingerprints, after whom investigating the disaster no doubt will be able to identify, including who committed it, as well as agents of such level and such advanced electronic warfare, and an unidentified ship in the Black Sea in close proximity to the Russian coast near Sochi, which is one of the main centers of crisis management at the global level.

    All that is far beyond the boundaries of technical capabilities of ISIS.

    That, combined with the killing of the Russian Ambassador in Turkey and senior Foreign Ministry official, as well as Hawthorn poisoning case in Siberia leaves no doubt that Soros could be crazy, but his madness has a system which is impossible to dismiss.

    Actually the subject of analysis in this post is not a terrorist attack, but rumors that are being spread about it, since their nature says that we just went through a point of bifurcation of a corresponding cycle that is much longer than a hundred years.

    In particular the murder of the Ambassador in Turkey is strikingly similar to the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, to the point that suggests the presence of the same actor behind both attacks and forcing the remembrance of Old Mountain Man, Alamut fortress and the Crusades.

    And the fact that in the press with a vengeance is being exaggerated theme of the First World War, which no one wanted, confirms, and not refutes this hypothesis, making it a certainty.

    • JimInFlorida January 9, 2017 at 8:10 pm #

      From what I remember, Vladimir Putin prefers to fly in the vintage Ilyushin Il-62 PRECISELY because it is mechanical and has NOTHING that can be hacked into. The computers are there to assist the navigator and flight engineer but, the pilots fly the plane. Even an EMP would not disable it.

    • michael January 10, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

      Unlikely that a gyro would react to electromagnetic waves.

  31. abbybwood January 9, 2017 at 4:33 pm #

    I assume that THIS is the photo Mr. Kunstler thought The New York Times should have posted regarding the Chicago hate crime/beating of a young disabled man?:


    Of course, posting this photo would have been the TRUTH, therefore, it could not be posted by The New York Slimes.

  32. Georges1202 January 9, 2017 at 5:17 pm #

    The American experiment begins its end game on Jan. 20 as the Orange Thing raises his tiny meathook and pledges loyalty to Goldman Sachs and the best people, etc…

    Perhaps it is all for the best in light of the utter mindless mayhem this country has caused. However, the patient will not go quietly that we can be sure of – there are a ton of merry mix-ups in store.

    • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

      Sure Seawolf…

  33. tucsonspur January 9, 2017 at 5:23 pm #

    Regarding the Russian hacking clamor, Jim says the following: “It was served up with no direct proof, only the repeated “assertions” that it was so.”

    Jim, that seems not to be the case. Although slightly technical, the following article is well worth reading in its entirety.


  34. The New York Times an organ of the deep state? Problem is, what isn’t with this paranoid worldview? Howard Stern?

    Someone stated the NYT is meaningless outside of New York. They are totally wrong. NYT produces content; much of the newspaper industry consolidation that occurred leaves the rest of the country with local rags that are in large part reprints of NYT features, or NYT’s syndicated columnists. You hear and see NYT content all over the internet, on TV, and on radio, you just don’t know it. Remember Chris Wallace questioning Trump during the debate and incredulously objecting to Trump’s implication that the NYT engages in bad journalism?

    NYT remains the best source of free journalism in the world regardless of the anyone’s opinion on the matter. It remains usually one step behind events. But isn’t that what you expect? They don’t make news, its got to happen before someone can report it. And as for whether they are tools of propagandists, there has been much mulling in its pages over the last few months, even years, about the integrity of media and reporting. After all, no one is more damaged by attacks on journalistic integrity than the NYT. Just in the last week, JHK’s favorite pinata, Paul Krugman, offered the same criticism of NYT and other journalists in terms of the problem of endorsing fake news by being so gullible as to imagine a story ends with the headline. As for their editorial board and columnists, well, everybody’s got an opinion. So what? That amounts to disinformation?

    I’ve followed their reporting on the Russian interference. Its hardly boilerplate or propaganda. As someone who is also deeply technological, I see the relevance and accuracy of the claims. It all rings true. Believe it or not, many of the red blooded Americans on message boards slandering Hillary over the last year were just paid teenagers in central Asia. Does it take much brains to repeat phrases like “lock her up”, or “homosexual in chief” ?

    I’m sure all of you believe you don’t use the internet for bias confirmation, either. You regularly use your library cards and read long-form well-researched nonfiction. Everything you believe is actually the truth. The gates of heaven will open up in the End Times and you’ll join hands with Richard Nixon and ride a golden elevator into the clouds…

    • Billy Hill January 9, 2017 at 7:00 pm #

      “Believe it or not, many of the red blooded Americans on message boards slandering Hillary over the last year were just paid teenagers in central Asia.”

      Do you actually believe the mom and pops in the swing states were swayed by these paid Asian teenagers on message boards?

      Hilary lost the deplorables in the crucial electoral college states. They had previously voted for Obama.

      Fred On Everything presents a more credible argument. Trump’s opponents helped elect him at every opportunity. They and not Putin can claim credit.

  35. B9K9 January 9, 2017 at 6:28 pm #

    Can someone please explain to me why various people seem to get jacked up about revelations that the press represents the media arm of the Deep state?

    Consider living through WWII – who would be surprised or upset if they were exposed to German/Japanese enemy propaganda? I mean, isn’t that what the opposition is supposed to be attempting to achieve? That is, win by any means at ones disposal, both fair & foul?

    The deep state has been conspiring against regular members since the very first proto-humans formed tribal alliances. Warriors & shamans realized they could enjoy a more luxurious life simply by manipulating others to support their comforts.

    Fast forward 10,000 years, and the same old dynamic is still at play. With a weaponized bureaucracy and full spectrum media and financial control, it’s surprisingly trivial to enforce the allegiance of sheep via the mechanisms of law & authority.

    However, every 100 years or so, a significant historical turning affords the opportunity for (albeit temporary) correction. I think people are underestimating how much conflict is brewing; Trump isn’t Bush III or Clinton II. Rather, he might be as disruptive as Cromwell, Lincoln or Lenin.

    • elysianfield January 10, 2017 at 11:35 am #

      “In the meantime, your space is filled with unhinged fanatics who aren’t even remotely close to adding anything of value to the general conversation with respect to the direction this country needs to go in the face of globally declining energy resources.

      Really, I think you can do better. By doing so, you could attract a broader, more insightful crew.”-B9K9, 12 December 2016

      Considering your effete, condescending post of 12 December, how does your current post add to the discussion of declining energy resources?

      “Can someone please explain to me why various people seem to get jacked up about revelations that the press represents the media arm of the Deep state?” -B9K9

      “With a weaponized bureaucracy and full spectrum media and financial control, it’s surprisingly trivial to enforce the allegiance of sheep via the mechanisms of law & authority.-B9K9

      “. I think people are underestimating how much conflict is brewing; Trump isn’t Bush III or Clinton II. Rather, he might be as disruptive as Cromwell, Lincoln or Lenin.”-B9K9

      Do you think your comments original or more topical than hundreds of other posts written on this site by the “fringe thinkers” you demean? Are you the arch prototype of the “broader, more insightful crew”?

      OK, B9K9, dazzle us with your brilliance….

  36. janet January 9, 2017 at 6:31 pm #

    “Or you could just openly embrace nihilism, and declare you’ll reject facts that contradict your opinion while embracing fantasies you feel good about.” –Elrond

    Excellent reply! And probably the choice of many on CFN. Facts can be so inconvenient that the source must be doubted.

    Believe me, bureaucrats do not receive enough pay to be thinking ahead to how numbers might be used in order to nefariously change the numbers to support some kind of political argument in the future… how would they do that, not knowing what kind of political argument the numbers would need to support?

    Paranoia… fact-free paranoia… runs free on CFN. The Census data is trustworthy. The FBI crime statistics are trustworthy. The Bureau of Labor Statistics data is trustworthy. The ADP payroll data is trustworthy. There is no way hundreds of thousands of independent data points collected independently by businesses and bureaucrats can be manipulated to support some unknown future argument a politician might want to make.

    And just because we are on the subject: The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post and the rest of the “main stream media” do not tell lies and are not pushing any narrative mandated by TPTB. They are professional journalists who are after the truth. They are not making shit up like some CFN posts do. When the main stream media do offer opinion, it is labeled as opinion.

    The main stream media are also inconvenient to politicians and to those pushing fact-free paranoia, because the news media ask questions and expose malfeasance. That is why people like Trump want to demonize media sources, discredit them in the eyes of the citizenry. It is why Trump and Hillary both refuse to hold regular press conferences.

    The more in the dark and confused the citizens are, the better for the politicians. The more cynical the citizens are, the better for the politicians. If you don’t believe in anything, if you distrust everyone and all news sources, then the politicians can get away with anything. You have been effectively disarmed by your cynicism. Because of your paranoia you no longer believe in truth.

    You are ripe for exploitation by fake news sites who want to blame it on “them” … always blame it on “them” … the fake news sites will tell you who “they” are so you can know who is at fault. Then you can continue with your pitchfork fantasies about “them” (the bankers, the Jews, the politicians, the Blacks, the feminists, the snowflakes on campus, the politically correct, the tattooed, the government, the Mexicans, the immigrants, those on food stamps, the differently gendered, the liberals, etc. … whoever you are told to mistrust and blame for your unhappiness.)

    • tucsonspur January 9, 2017 at 7:20 pm #

      Some truth, but a lot of horseshit. A weak and tired rant essentially saying no one is to blame for anything.

      The Russians did the hacking, as illustrated in the link I posted above. And the MSM favored Clinton over Trump. Simple.

    • Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 7:34 pm #

      Ho-Ho-hey-hey what is WPA posting today? Talking about posting facts, but knowing nothing about bureaucrats. In the SES they make $200K, but direct orders they must obey. Make me look good with the stats, or a transfer to Anchorage is where your at…

    • michael January 10, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

      Welcome back Janet from the outer solar system.
      Around here things have changed a lot since the year 400 BC.

      • Frankiti January 10, 2017 at 5:24 pm #

        It’s Janet, but you can call it WPA if you’re nasty

  37. Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 7:23 pm #

    “Questioning the ostensibly unquestionable premises of our way of life is arguably the most urgent of services we owe our fellow humans and ourselves” -RIP Zigmunt

  38. Frankiti January 9, 2017 at 7:42 pm #

    To be overrated, one must be rated over and over.

    Streep has a wiki page devoted only to her awards and nominations, in other words, her ratings:


    Most people understand these awards are only a marketing device created by the entertainment industry.

    And of course they are; they’re gauche.

    An award for art… it’s incredibly, absurd, but here it is unquestioned by many.

    And the award for best surrealist goes to… Metamorphosis Of Narcissus by Dali. How rich indeed.

  39. janet January 9, 2017 at 8:10 pm #

    “And the MSM favored Clinton over Trump. Simple.” –tucsonspur

    Check your prejudice. Here are the facts: Two weeks out from the election, Trump had spent $74 million on advertising, about a third of that spent by Clinton and less than half what Republican Mitt Romney had committed at the same time in the 2012 election cycle when he lost to then-incumbent Barack Obama. But Trump has been anything but absent from television screens in the 17 months since he announced his presidential bid.

    According to data-driven analytics firm mediaQuant, Trump received around $5 billion in free media coverage, more than twice that garnered by Clinton. From detailing his constant stream of headline-grabbing comments to regularly accepting phone-in interviews, Trump has been a virtual ever-present on cable news media for the past year and a half.

  40. rapier January 9, 2017 at 8:12 pm #

    The Deep State is a state of mind or let’s call it a culture. Every state, the people who serve it, since forever has had it to some degree but modern communications/computation and the centralizing power they contain have outstripped the powers of ordinary citizens to effect them even in a liberal democracy.

    The levels of irony in a Trump, a classic publicity hound, aka fame seeker who relies upon and lives in and for for modern media communications, being some sort of antidote to our collective situation, are miles of onion skins deep.

    I hope it pains JHK as much as me to see his comment section totally dominated by Team R vs Team D squabbling and name calling. How can it not since his basic message transcends the parade of media events as they fly by hour by hour. Then again he should know by now that this message of the end of growth has found few believers so at this point what is the point of his endless, for want of a better term, rants?

    To keep busy I suppose and make some kind of living. We all do what we have to do.

  41. BackRowHeckler January 9, 2017 at 8:33 pm #

    The New York Times? … a little side hobby for Carlos Slim, honcho and owner. All stories and editorials pass thru Mexico City for Carlos Slim’s approval or disapproval. At some point Carlos might tire of this little hobby of his and stop funding it … leaving the august reporters and deep thinking editorial writers at the great grey lady looking for jobs at the Daily Shopper out of Toledo, Ohio.


  42. B9K9 January 9, 2017 at 9:03 pm #

    I heard a rumor that checks from CTR are bouncing, but it looks like a few loyalists are still getting paid. (Or are volunteering their time for free.)

    Reading your posts is almost like traveling in a wayback machine. Are you being ironic, or do you really think that pushing a tired narrative can gain any traction?

    The NYT, Wapo, et al are money losing operations. They are supported by their owners in order to gain political leverage. They are still valuable assets, because their potential franchise value greatly exceeds their recurring operating losses.

    People are pussy footing around what’s really at stake, even here @ CFN. Perhaps a review of the some executive & legislative orders issued during both the Civil and WW1 may shed some light on the potential for executive action in the face of civil disruption.

    The Union introduced the concept of insurrection and military occupation. Check the history of Maryland. A state in defiance of federal positions on enemy action, including border defense, is a state that potentially can be occupied by federal troops.

    • elysianfield January 10, 2017 at 11:52 am #

      “The Union introduced the concept of insurrection and military occupation. Check the history of Maryland”

      Introduced the concept? Check the history of Maryland? Perhaps you should check the history of the Human Race. Perhaps you should better frame your generalities in a broader historical context.

      ” Perhaps a review of the some executive & legislative orders issued during both the Civil and WW1 may shed some light on the potential for executive action in the face of civil disruption.” -B9K9

      Insightful…yeah, we never thought of that.

      Perhaps you should “review” your comments in light of discussions on this site over the last year.

      Pseudo-Intellectual snark, Ad Hominem insults, and vague, talking point generalities will not pass for competence on this site.

  43. BackRowHeckler January 9, 2017 at 9:05 pm #

    Madonna, Meryl Streep … and all the other elitist aging Hollywood Show Biz Bags out there on the west coast:

    Do not go gentle into that good night
    Old age should close and burn at the close of day;
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    Good woman, last wave by, crying how bright
    Their frail deeds might have dances in the green bay,
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    — a bit of advice for Hollywood scum from the great Dylan Thomas. Please heed it.


    • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 11:19 pm #

      Isn’t that what they’re trying to do? He was a great poet, but this poem lacks spiritual vision.

  44. BackRowHeckler January 9, 2017 at 9:13 pm #

    One thing you can say about these showbiz f=kkers out there in LA tho — they sure like giving each other awards. Every goddam week — at the Kennedy Center, in Manhattan, in Hollywood, there is an awards night. Everybody gets an award, like in Elementary School.


  45. Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 11:29 pm #

    John McAfee: If it looks like the Russians did it, then the Russians didn’t do it.

    C’mon folks, subtlety.


  46. Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2017 at 11:40 pm #

    The words of Ragnar as he was being killed by snakes in the snake pit. What if one has to die in battle in order to find God?

    Ragnar Lodbrok´s Death Song

    We struck with our swords!
    Why should a warrior cower
    before the ranks, when braving
    the blizzard of spearpoints?
    He who mourns his demise has
    never fed meat often
    to eagles in the edge-game.
    It’s hard to urge on weaklings;
    no coward takes courage
    from his craven heart.

    We struck with our swords!
    I say it’s right for a lad
    to dare to dash at foemen
    as they draw swords together.
    Let thane not shrink from thane—
    that long was the warriors’ way;
    maids’ darlings should be dauntless
    in the din of swords, always.

    We struck with our swords!
    It seems to me an ordeal
    that our fates we must follow;
    few escape the Norns’ craft.
    I didn’t imagine Aelle
    as the end of my life,
    when I fed blood-falcons
    and forced keels through the water;
    we gave wolves worthy payment
    widely, in Scotland’s bays.

    We struck with our swords!
    My soul is glad, for I know
    that Balder’s father’s benches
    for a banquet are made ready.
    We’ll toss back toasts of ale
    from bent trees of the skulls;
    no warrior bewails his death
    in the wondrous house of Fjolnir.
    Not one word of weakness
    will I speak in Vidrir’s hall.

    We struck with our swords!
    The sons of Aslaug all would
    rouse the wrath of Hild here
    with their ruthless sword-blades,
    if they fathomed fully
    how far I have traveled,
    how so many serpents
    stab me with their poison.
    My sons’ hearts will help them:
    they have their mother’s lineage.

    We struck with our swords!
    Soon my life will have passed;
    Goinn scars me sorely,
    settles in my heart’s hall;
    I wish the wand of Vidrir
    would wound Aelle, one day.
    My sons must feel great fury
    that their father is put to death;
    my daring swains won’t suffer
    in silence when they hear this.

    We struck with our swords!
    I have stood in the ranks
    at fifty-one folk-battles,
    foremost of the lance-meet.
    Never did I dream that
    a different king could ever
    be found, braver than me—
    I bloodied spears when young.
    Aesir will ask us to feast;
    no anguish for my death.

    I desire my death now.
    The disir call me home,
    whom Herjan hastens onward
    from his hall, to take me.
    On the high bench, boldly,
    I’ll drink beer with the Aesir;
    hope of life is lost now,
    laughing shall I die!

    © Copyright 2009 by Ben Waggoner.

    Distribution for non-commercial purposes is allowed
    as long as the content is not altered and this notice is not removed.

    These are the final eight stanzas (out of twenty-nine) of Ben Waggoner´s rendition of Ragnar’s death song.
    Look for the whole poem — and several sagas — in his book: “The Sagas of Ragnar Lodbrok”

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    • BackRowHeckler January 9, 2017 at 11:56 pm #

      Vikings ain’t what they used to be, Vlad.

      Bombs going off, cars on fire and grenades tossed at police officers a regular feature in Malmo, Sweden; Muzzies running amok. Where are the Swedish men, latter day Vikings?

      In Berlin yesterday a young Swedish girl visiting Germany pushed under a train and killed by ‘Refugee’ in the country only 1 day. No big deal! Media in NEurope doing their best to cover it up, like the NYTimes and the disabled white kid tormented by 4 Negroes in Chicago … the media in Europe and the lying POS media in the USA being one and the same.


      • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 6:12 am #

        I’m sure you’ve read “You Die Alone”. Even I admire a man like that, even though fighting on the wrong side, against the leadership of true Patriots like Vidkun Quisling. What an adventure, lying in his snow tomb, lining up his fingers on the ledge as they fell off. What a Man.

        Your side won and turned boys over to Women who want to make them into women with penises. Without true Men to stop it, they succeed.

      • malthuss January 10, 2017 at 10:35 am #

        Those children of Vikings may be the children of the Vikings slaves.

  47. janet January 10, 2017 at 12:48 am #

    Alibaba says it will create one million jobs in the U.S. … and where will the profits of American labor go? To China. China employing Americans as peons cannot solve American unemployment and will not create American wealth. Trump fail.

  48. nsa January 10, 2017 at 1:00 am #

    It’s always fun to read about groups preferred by the vile lefties having a go at each other…..like the four afros torturing the disabled white (tough call but disability trumps afro), afros pillaging a korean liquor store, female raped by illegal, a muzzie shooting up a gay bar, etc. Out this way some Makah indians sobered up long enough to reestablish their tribal hunting tradition by killing a grey whale…..from a tribal canoe with a harpoon? Hell, no…..they mounted a 50 caliber single shot to the bow of a Bayliner, grabbed a couple cases of Ice House, and set out to sea amid the cheering of 300 pound womenfolk in tavern jackets waving hankies. Being indians, they fucked it up of course and only wounded the victim whale, which swam out to sea tracked by the Coast Guard. 24 hours later the critter succumbed and went under for the last time. Over in vile commie Seattle, the loathsome lefties could never figure out who to support…..the oppressed drunk indigenous murderers or the hapless victim whale eating plankton while minding its own business. The repulsive lefties never did figure out which side to take.

  49. janet January 10, 2017 at 1:31 am #


    Trump thinks he can get away with anything. He said so himself when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave. But the supposedly brilliant businessman has been unable to resolve his conflicts of interest, and that could lead to his impeachment. Trump is headed straight into the buzzsaw of the Constitution’s Emoluments Clause.

    Congressional Democrats led by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) introduced legislation on Monday that would require President-elect Donald Trump to divest his business holdings in order to avoid conflicts of interest while serving in the White House.

    The President Conflict of Interest Act would require the president and vice president, their spouses and any minor or dependent children to divest all personal financial holdings that could create a conflict of interest, and to place the resulting assets into a blind trust governed by an independent trustee.

    The bill would also formally implement the Constitution’s Emoluments Clause, which bans government officials from receiving gifts or payments from foreign governments, by declaring the violation of financial conflict-of-interest laws and provisions by the president to be considered a high crime or misdemeanor punishable by impeachment.

    Trump is set to enter office with an unprecedented array of financial conflicts of interest related to his multibillion-dollar Trump Organization. He has failed to specify how he will separate himself from the business that bears his name in order to avoid conflicts of interest. Instead, he and his aides have simply declared that “the president can’t have a conflict of interest,” an assertion that is not true.

    After stating during his presidential campaign that he would have nothing to do with his business if elected, Trump has met with his foreign business partners, touted them to foreign leaders and appointed his adult children to the executive committee of his presidential transition despite plans for them to assume control of the Trump Organization. His hotel in Washington, D.C., pitched foreign governments on booking hotel rooms to curry favor with the Trump administration.

    In December, Trump postponed a press conference where he was supposedly going to announce plans for resolving his conflicts of interest. A new press conference was announced for Jan. 11, but it has not been billed as an announcement of any plans to disentangle himself from his business.

    “The American people deserve to know that the President of the United States is working to do what’s best for the country… not using his office to do what’s best for himself and his businesses,” Warren said in a statement. “The only way for President-elect Trump to truly eliminate conflicts-of-interest is to divest his financial interests by placing them in a blind trust. This has been the standard for previous presidents, and our bill makes clear the continuing expectation that President-elect Trump do the same.”

    • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 6:15 am #

      Is she still a Cherokee, do you know? Did I need that comma?

    • Elrond Hubbard January 10, 2017 at 9:35 am #

      Interesting. For 240 years, there was no need for legislation enforcing the emoluments clause, because no president would have dared risk even the appearance of violating it. Then the billionaire TV star showed up. For sheer egomania, there isn’t a pampered prima donna in all of Hollywood who can touch this guy.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

        And the Obama Presidency was the most transparent in American History, right L Ron?

        The most transparently opaque, rather.

        • Elrond Hubbard January 10, 2017 at 2:43 pm #

          Irrelevant as a criticism of me, since I’m not an Obama supporter as you imply. If I were a U.S. voter, I would have voted for Jill Stein if I were in a safe state. Otherwise I would have voted strategically for the candidate most likely to defeat Trump.

          In the 2000 election I would have cast an enthusiastic vote for Nader. If anyone afterwards told me I helped elect G.W. Bush as a result, I would have spat in their eye with equal enthusiasm.

          Another way of putting that is, blame for a broken electoral system shouldn’t be cast on the voters; the system should be fixed. Trump, with his cabinet of fellow billionaires, is the best argument yet for fixing a system that pointedly rejects many millions of people from representation.

          • Frankiti January 10, 2017 at 5:21 pm #

            I have a feeling that if a guy like you spat in anyone’s eye… you’d be dizzily picking up your teeth.

          • messianicdruid January 10, 2017 at 5:29 pm #

            “… a system that pointedly rejects many millions of people from representation.”

            The larger the system gets the more millions will be unrepresented. It is natural, in such a case, to split the system into smaller pieces, usually two, just like a cell dividing. Get on the side you want to be on when the signs of a split present themselves, and hold your position.

  50. Cold N. Holefield January 10, 2017 at 6:46 am #

    K-Dog said: People in America are getting quite tired of having their chains yanked and the deceptions are not working out as planned.

    On the one hand, K-Dog, up above in the comments, you talk about the Deep State’s meddling in the commentary at Moon of Alabama blog with the intent of making you suspicious of that blog, and many other blogs, to the point of pretending to be Russian Cyber Trolls in a form of byzantine double-reverse psychology, and then you make this statement in the same breath. Do you not see the contradiction? If they are going to the absurd lengths you claim they’re going to at Moon of Alabama blog, then surely your Awakening is not an Awakening at all. You’ve awakened, but into yet another Dream — one they’ve crafted for the few who slip out of the “other” Dream. Remember, the creative force behind Westworld is the creative force behind Inception and there is significant overlap. Dreams within Dreams within Dreams and on and on it goes with no end. It becomes impossible to discern what is a Dream and what isn’t.

    One of the reasons I no longer allow commentary at my blog is to neutralize Deep State actors from controlling the bounds of the discussion and the dialogue in an attempt to undermine my Evocations. My blog is not popular and by virtue of that, you know I am not with the Deep State. The Deep State determines what is popular or not. Even if you’re unwitting, if your blog is popular it is because the Deep State has allowed it and helped encourage it, meaning it serves the Deep State’s purposes. That Blacklist is designed to make those websites more enticing to those who are stirring (not yet awake) with the intent of awakening them into yet another Dream.

    Dream Weavers

    • K-Dog January 10, 2017 at 2:11 pm #


  51. Frankiti January 10, 2017 at 7:27 am #

    Is the NSA a hulking security apparatus, or a control apparatus? Is it a question of semantics, or motives? Security of control perhaps?

    • K-Dog January 10, 2017 at 2:14 pm #

      Often the binary distinctions we make in our minds have no basis in reality. Why does it have to be one or the other? Officially it is a security apparatus and I suspect most of the time that is true.

      But if they want to fuck with you they can be very creative.

      • Frankiti January 10, 2017 at 5:19 pm #

        Sure, it’s cute, and why not let the “binary bias” zeitgeist bleed on in from last week? Can’t get enough of it, really. Without night there is no day. Without pain there is no joy. In a universe of contrasts, let us all remember that they need not exist …ommmmmmmmm….

        The NSA was never about security, its ostensible function. It is about control and hegemony. Information hegemony. They gather information, for control, and what is security but the execution of control.

        • K-Dog January 11, 2017 at 1:47 am #

          “Without night there is no day. Without pain there is no joy.”

          That borders on insulting, not that I care. Night and Day are genuine distinctions as is the contrast between pain and joy.
          Binary distinctions exist if they accurately describe reality. If they do not accurately describe reality they exist; but only in the legends and neural synapses of an errant mind.

          Without public oversight the NSA is control but with accountability national security might possibly be the role. As there is now no accountability and with the power and the ability to operate as a free agent control inevitably becomes their mandate for as Lord Acton said:

          “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

          Chauvinism is the end result of a blind faith in believing that what one thinks is right.

          Q: What is security but the execution of control?

          A: Knowledge

          It is not about an amorphous ommmmmmmmm… It is about clarity and appreciating that an unexamined life is mediocre and prone to mistake.

          I was not here last week.

  52. Cold N. Holefield January 10, 2017 at 7:40 am #

    Janos said: John McAfee: If it looks like the Russians did it, then the Russians didn’t do it. C’mon folks, subtlety.

    There is nothing subtle about, quite literally, eating shit. Are you also, like your friend McAfee, a Coprophiliac? If I say to you, “eat shit,” will you say in return, “don’t mind if I do?” What does Dugin think of McAfee’s perversion since Dugin is allergic to perversions like Jim is allergic to conspiracy theories? Does Coprophilia get grandfathered in as an acceptable perversion in the effort to destroy “Amerikkka?”

    • elysianfield January 10, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

      “There is nothing subtle about, quite literally, eating shit.”

      “Brown Boy”
      Things to do in Denver, when you’re Dead.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 1:52 pm #

      One time I noticed my dog was eating his own shit a lot. I found a dog group online and asked about it. Evidently, I didn’t follow Aol Dog Group protocol and introduce myself. Everyone ignored me and when I kept asking, started making snide remarks about how “some posters” were very strange. I persisted. Finally one woman answered me saying that it was very common and “even clean dogs did it” – reassuring me that my dog was still a good dog even if I wasn’t a good person. Thus answered, I ghosted the site – never to return. Btw, I will not be exorcised from here nearly so easily. Only prayer and fasting will avail, and there’s precious little of that.

      Pope Francis talks about it a lot and may be into it – or at least it fascinates him. I talked to an Indian Medicine Man about my dog and he said they do it to get vitamins if their diet is deficient.

      You know I assume, that even if John does eat his own shit, it doesn’t mean he’s wrong about Russian Hacking? To believe otherwise would be the logical fallacy of the Ad Hominem.

      Great Patriot Dugin wants to submerge the Russian People into the Brown and Yellow hordes of Southern and Central Asia. He is the very definition of Cicero’s “the enemy within”. Finc loves him – so ditto.

      • K-Dog January 11, 2017 at 2:03 am #

        You made a comment that eats shit. How funny is that!

  53. Cold N. Holefield January 10, 2017 at 7:47 am #

    Frankiti, one prodigious form of Social Control in America is the Corporation. Every Corporation, without fail, is a simulacrum of the Tyrannical Blueprint Control Paradigm. Applying the Pareto Principle to Corporations, each one could be reduced in size by at least 80% and still run efficiently & effectively, and, in fact, more so. The reason Corporations don’t do this is for purposes of Social Control — the same reason mind-annihilating schooling is mandatory.

    • Frankiti January 10, 2017 at 8:02 am #

      Mortgages, student loans, marriages, and child support. All make a submissive and obedient populace. Each one is an anchor thrown down over the course of one’s life. Staying put, sheltered in harbor.

  54. routersurfer January 10, 2017 at 9:20 am #

    Howdy Jim! “WalMart sells pitchforks…….” you owe me a new pair of shorts. What a great read this week. Thanks again.

  55. Ishabaka January 10, 2017 at 9:24 am #

    Losing to Trump was an astonishing accomplishment for Hillary. She had everything going for her. It’s clear the Democratic Party hasn’t learned any of the striking lessons from this defeat (such as never, ever, ever insult ANY of the folks who vote – even if you hate them). I wonder if they will learn anything over the next four years. People vote their wallet, Trump is taking on a government $40 trillion in the hole – there is a high chance the economy will tank in the next four years (which will be blamed on Trump no matter what he does), there likely will be quite the opportunity for the Dems in 2020 – but only if they can learn from 2016.

    • pequiste January 10, 2017 at 10:01 am #

      The Democrat Party will double down on the politics that they know, love and practice:

      – Identity

      – War

      – Race

      – Immigration (unlimited legal and illegal)

      – Free-Shit Army support

      – Spending spending spending

      – and a host of other platforms and practices that have put the nation on the precipice of race-war and bankruptcy. (Note: the Republican party has its own Augean Stable of awfulness – see preznitcy of George “W.” Bush for particulars.)

      When persons like Chuck Schumer, Keith Ellison, Huma Abedin and John “Spirit Cooking” Podesta are leaders and in-charge of the front office of an organization, then one need not look much further to know what the organization stands for and what their future plans are.

  56. Elrond Hubbard January 10, 2017 at 9:27 am #

    New U.S. Army Regulations Will Allow Turbans, Hijabs And Beards
    Servicemen and women at the brigade level will now be granted religious accommodations.

    “Just days into the new year, the U.S. Army has already handed a major victory to religious liberty advocates.

    “New Army regulations released on Tuesday state that servicemen and women at the brigade level will now be granted religious accommodations to wear turbans, beards, and hijabs in accordance with their faith. The move comes just days after the New York Police Department announced its decision to allow officers to wear turbans and grow beards for religious reasons.

    “Such accommodations for Army service members were previously made on a case-by-case basis.”


    • pequiste January 10, 2017 at 9:44 am #

      I think the incoming administration will have something to say, and do, about this appalling lack of respect for the armed services in general; military functionability; U.S. military tradition; good order and discipline; “the uniform” and the people who wear it.

      Barack “Barry Soetoro” Hussein Obama again plainly shows his utter contempt for America.

      Just another 10 days, just another 10 days…………adios Mutherfucker!

      • janet January 10, 2017 at 11:34 am #

        Giving religious freedom to soldiers who are told they are fighting for freedom. I love Obama’s respect for the military and his understanding of the American values the uniform is supposed to represent.

      • Frankiti January 10, 2017 at 5:40 pm #

        It’s 2016, and humanity is still giving dispensations to the greatest affliction known to man; religion.

        Clap f******g clap

    • cbeard January 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm #

      Wait till they’re in a serious fire fight with an enemy adorned with turbans. I predict friendly fire deaths.

  57. volodya January 10, 2017 at 10:27 am #


    Of course you’re right, anyone that’s worked in a large corporation knows tyranny. You see it up close each and every day, both at home and at work.

    Freedom of speech? Nope. Freedom of information? Not a bit. Freedom of association? Nada. Transparency? Fuggedaboudit.

    At work the employee is closely monitored and not just for performance. They are expected to maintain an air of quiet optimism and unbending belief no matter the circumstance. Malcontents and doubters are quickly identified and rousted. Even the private life of the employee is subject to scrutiny.

    Political or social activism? Yes, yes, such things are encouraged I was told, BUT “with discretion”. So, reading between the lines and closely observing the pauses, the message was this: the wise employee, if he wants to remain employed, stays out of public view and shuts up.

    In the corporate world contradiction and illogic are the order of the day so the Orwellian double-jointed mind is the workaday necessity. How else does one accommodate blatant lies? See, what the CEO and his cronies want is North Korean style obeisance – adoring, cheering, clapping employee multitudes at every utterance of the Great CEO Leader no matter the absurdity.

    A while back, at a former employer, they cut our benefits. And Human Resources, masters at double-think, was tasked with the announcement. So, predictably, they told us we have something to celebrate, an improvement, an increase to the chocolate ration so to speak. You see, now we have “choice” to allow for differing employee preferences.

    Well, yes, there was “choice”, but to the secretly independent mind, a choice between worse alternatives. And we were expected to get out the pom-poms. A mundane example maybe, surely one example among multitudes, but one that illustrates drip-drip-drip corrosion and diminishment.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 1:56 pm #

      And Libertarians refuse to see these entities as threats to our Freedom. But they are part and parcel of our Plutocratic State. Some of these guys jump from public to private to academia as if they’re playing hopscotch. All aspects of the Corporate State.

  58. janet January 10, 2017 at 11:21 am #

    One thing you can say about these Generals Trump has nominated … they sure like giving each other awards. Every goddam week — Bars, stars, purple heats, distinguished this distinguished that… chests full of medals. Everybody gets an award, like in Elementary School.

    • Q. Shtik January 10, 2017 at 1:23 pm #

      Bars, stars, purple heats, distinguished this distinguished that… chests full of medals. Everybody gets an award, like in Elementary School. – janet


      I ended my stint in the Air Force with nary a single decoration on my chest… not even a crummy unit citation.

      • Q. Shtik January 10, 2017 at 1:32 pm #

        …and note: I single-handedly kept safe and secure the check signing machine at Duluth AFB during the Cuban Missile Crisis.;-)

  59. FincaInTheMountains January 10, 2017 at 11:49 am #

    Stephanopoulos: Obama Interview


    Translating into English from Obama’s diplomatic:

    Putin’s intervention was made possible because the mainstream media is so self-discredited with pro-Clinton lies that Americans today believe Assange and RT and not them.

    And Americans generally consider their main enemy Hillary and those who sponsor her, not Russia. And to change this situation, the first thing the Democrats should do is to remember that Trump is as much American as they are and stop blaming him for being a Russian spy on the sole ground that he beat Hillary Clinton.

    Stephanopoulos, the son of an Orthodox Archbishop, who, realizing what he had done by helping Bastinda to get into the White House in 1992, resigned from his post with the scandal as President Clinton’s press secretary, and wound up in the nuthouse after trying to kill himself.

    And Obama in this interview constantly reminds him: “after all, you yourself went through it, so you know what I had to go through here in the White House.”

    • janet January 10, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

      “And Americans generally consider their main enemy Hillary…” –finca

      Hey, finca, did you hear there was an election last year? Hillary lost.

      Americans generally don’t think about Hillary anymore. She is not an enemy. She is not a friend. She’s gone. When are you going to stop beating a dead horse?

      • Q. Shtik January 10, 2017 at 1:18 pm #

        When are you going to stop beating a dead horse? – janet


        When she loses her NYC Mayoral bid.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 10, 2017 at 1:28 pm #

        She’s gone

        She may have.., but the Sect that was behind her is very much here and active, judging by the horrendous events happened in the period between the Western and Orthodox Christmases

      • Frankiti January 10, 2017 at 5:36 pm #

        But WPA, you were for supposedly (as your dull shtick demands) for Hillary after Bernie lost… but then you wanted Bernie again, or so your act would leave one to believe?

        Speaking of dead horses, how is Asoka-CCC?

  60. Q. Shtik January 10, 2017 at 12:43 pm #

    “the heartlessness of the Black in on display here.” –[Janus] – thwack


    Thwack, please note: Janus is an investment firm. Janos is a fascist fixture at CFN.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

      Ru Sirius? You’re kissing his Black ass after he insulted the White victim?

      I’m sorry you didn’t get a medal for penmanship of numerals or well shined shoes.

    • Frankiti January 10, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

      Janus is not an investment firm. The investment firm is named after Janus. Janus is the two-faced one. Looking into the past and towards the future.

      Never in the present.

      A god of change and transitions.

      A pedant shouldn’t be expected to understand the difference.

    • thwack January 12, 2017 at 10:15 am #

      Im aware of the difference Q.

      I was just trying to fit the word anus into his name.

      I ain’t mad atcha. Nobody can resist a negro spelling error;

      its the grammatical equivalent of xyz-pdq

  61. janet January 10, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

    “I ended my stint in the Air Force with nary a single decoration on my chest… not even a crummy unit citation.” –Qshtik

    Really? You must have been a goldbricker. Most who serve honorably do graduate wit honors and are given an HONORABLE discharge. You really didn’t receive that honor?

    • janet January 10, 2017 at 1:48 pm #

      No stripes on your arm, private Q.? They didn’t give you even one stripe? They hand those out like in elementary school.

      • elysianfield January 10, 2017 at 6:55 pm #

        Q was an officer…have you not been attendant?

        • janet January 10, 2017 at 8:41 pm #

          Sorry. I did not know that. I am relatively new here.

  62. Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

    The Red Army Choir sing The Brave Don Lads.


    The Don Cossack drove out the last of the Mongols helping to give birth to the Russian Nation. Dugin and his followers want to reverse this and subsume the Russian people into the Mongolian swarm. It’s evil. No other word applies.

    Who were the Cossacks? Freedom loving men. Serfs who fled their bondage to live as free men in the wilderness. Starting to see the parallel between them and the American Pioneers? And when they saw oppression, they acted – as when they rode into the Ukraine to help the Orthodox peasants being oppressed the Catholic Poles and their Jewish bully boys.

    • thwack January 10, 2017 at 5:27 pm #

      Thats all fine and well; but at the end of the day,

      the penis mightier than the sword.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 10:00 pm #

        If you consent to a full castration, you may be able to get a job in Saudi Arabia as a harem guard. Black Eunuchs are traditionally used for this important job. Is this fair for Whites? Perhaps not, but how many Whites want such a job? Islam has a clear division of labor – and Blacks are at the bottom where they belong.

        • thwack January 10, 2017 at 10:45 pm #

          and Blacks are at the bottom where they belong.


          Ok, but that means I can only improve; and I got nothin to lose by trying.

          Meanwhile, you, being THE white man, on the top and everything… can only go down,

          like the Titanic,

          like Deepwater Horizon

          like the dinosaurs…

          *once upon a time, dress so fine, threw the bums a dime, in yo prime…?

          didn’t you?

          (cheer up bro, its not so bad; you and your big lips can always lift weights and convert to Islam)

          • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 11:10 pm #

            Not true. White Men are on the bottom. We the niggers now. We have that charism, not you. You the pampered pets/thugs of the Deep State. Soros Orcs! Did you see footage from outside the Chicago Trump rally that had to be cancelled? Full blooded Uruk Hai fighting Orcs. Hard core gang muscle.

            But no matter: the Submerged Supermen will deal with all this in good time – in the next Civilization, America 2.0 or something completely different. We shall not wholly die but in fact will make an incredible resurrection.

  63. Therian January 10, 2017 at 5:32 pm #

    This week’s missive from Jim was brilliant because it exposes a fundamental truth i.e., that Deep State IS the government. We can only hope that Mr. Trump, upon seeing the many layers of manufactured “crises” that come up from the bowels of the intel apparatus, will clean house. Of course, the big danger is that he’s subsumed by Deep State and merely carries on a tradition in place since the Reagan Presidency.

    Say a prayer that the inimitable Mr. Trump blows up Deep State because if he doesn’t we’re in Deep Shit.

  64. Walter B January 10, 2017 at 8:21 pm #

    Welcome to the middle James, good to have you here. The R’s & D’s have finally made it apparent that they are all in it together for their own enrichment at the expense of those who actually do the work and create the value. Normally this is not a big deal as long as the peons are allowed to share in the rewards to at least some meager extent. Now that the scum at the top require ALL of the value for themselves, they have decided to band together and no longer fight one another for the spoils that we provide. It is bad now and it will only get worse, much worse, and quickly I would think.

    My various social political, and professional connections bring me into contact with some VERY interesting and some very well placed individuals. This affords me much extremely interesting conversations, though when you converse with real people of this sort, you don’t really get many details and absolutely NO inside information. They are professionals and they STFU with great gusto. Occasionally, however I get lucky. On New Year’s evening I had the great joy and pleasure of meeting my first actual Spook. I did not find out much about this fellow buy what I did hear from him was this:

    -He possesses a special set of skills (he began his career in law enforcement) and works with the FBI and Federal Prosecutors rooting out corruption in government leading to prosecution of corrupt officials (like Chris Christie used to do).

    -If there are 10 levels of government, 9 of them are corrupt in every way possible at huge expense to the American public.

    -These people are not allowed to go after many of the targets they pick but are directed to pursue cases against who they are told to go after.

    –The American public are pretty much a bunch of simpletons who don’t know shit, don’t really care anyway, and wouldn’t believe half of what is actually going on behind the scenes were they to be told outright.

    As little as that all says for six hours of personal conversation, I walked away feeling not only fortunate to have had the opportunity to listen, but in the end to realize that we who speculate in places like this are not the fools after all. We are the few and I am very ok with that.

    Deep State you say? FuckinAyoubetcha!

  65. Elrond Hubbard January 10, 2017 at 9:18 pm #

    FBI chief given dossier by John McCain alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts
    – Russian intelligence alleged to have compromising material on Trump
    – Unverified reports were drawn up by western ex-counter-intelligence official

    “Senator John McCain passed documents to the FBI director, James Comey, last month alleging secret contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow and that Russian intelligence had personally compromising material on the president-elect himself.

    “The material, which has been seen by the Guardian, is a series of reports on Trump’s relationship with Moscow. They were drawn up by a former western counter-intelligence official, now working as a private consultant.

    “The Guardian has not been able to confirm the veracity of the documents’ contents, and the Trump team has consistently denied any hidden contacts with the Russian government.

    “Some of the reports – which are dated from 20 June to 20 October last year – also proved to be prescient, predicting events that happened after they were sent.

    “One report, dated June 2016, claims that the Kremlin has been cultivating, supporting and assisting Trump for at least five years, with the aim of encouraging ‘splits and divisions in western alliance’.

    “Most explosively, the report alleges: ‘FSB has compromised Trump through his activities in Moscow sufficiently to be able to blackmail him.’ The president-elect has not responded to the allegations.”


    Wowee. But if there’s one place I look to for sober opinion and grounded analysis of allegations like this, it’s CFN. So who’s got an opening bid? For myself, all I can say is this crisis of legitimacy just keeps getting crisis-ier. Pass the popcorn.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 10:06 pm #

      Maybe another pussy grab or buttocks squeeze? Did he ever go to Orgy Island like Bill? Or be a member of a coven like Hillary? Or consort with Bilderbergers while holding office – a clear violation of her oath of office.

      When is the porno of Obama and Justin coming out?

    • FincaInTheMountains January 10, 2017 at 10:30 pm #

      You’re wasting your breath, Elrond. Everybody knows that the intelligence services of ALL players conduct active operations against their geopolitical competitors and even “partners” – Angela Merkel’s phone tap, anybody?

      If anything, American “intelligence” and counter-intelligence agencies are signing off in their total incompetence.

      As far as FBI is concerned, we better hear some details about how the connections of the FBI director Comey (he is a former (?) Vice President of Lockheed Martin), affected his decision to suddenly “reopen” the Clinton’s investigation, but when it threatened taking Clinton off the race and replacing her with Biden – who is NOT Lockheed Martin man, he reversed it in a week.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 10, 2017 at 11:32 pm #

        Why is it a waste of breath? Here we see Trump’s presidency already tangled in a web of suspicion and he’s not even in office yet. The allegation alone is likely to dog Trump for as long as he’s in office, or indeed for the rest of his life.

        These things don’t need even the faintest whiff of truth to have a profound effect on a presidency. Trump’s own birtherism against Obama demonstrates very clearly that completely unfalsifiable, and hence worthless, accusations are a powerful weapon against a political figure. Now he gets to experience it for himself, and unlike the conspiracy theory about Obama there might actually be something to this. You said it yourself, all the intelligence services do it.

        • BackRowHeckler January 10, 2017 at 11:45 pm #

          WTF do you care?

          You don’t even live here. Worry about Canada, which itself, under your boy king, is importing enough 3rd worlders and Muslims to turn large parts of it into another dystopic shithole … worry about that, not us.


          • Elrond Hubbard January 11, 2017 at 12:19 am #

            Why? “Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.” — P.E. Trudeau

            As for Canada turning into a dystopic shithole, well, the future hasn’t happened yet so we’ll see. But multiculturalism was invented here and so far this has been the one place where it actually works. Meanwhile your government is visibly imploding while the whole world watches slack-jawed with amazement, so isn’t the pot calling the kettle black a little bit?

    • FincaInTheMountains January 10, 2017 at 10:33 pm #

      Leonard Cohen – Everybody Knows


    • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 10:46 pm #

      Shame on you for supporting the Clinton/Obama Cabal and the nascent Surveillance State it represents. Real Liberals are against this kind of thing. How much you have forgotten, eh? Too obsessed with “winning”. How Trumpian! But at least he’s honest about it….


      Your little Jill Stein mouse wants in on the big time obviously.

  66. FincaInTheMountains January 10, 2017 at 10:10 pm #

    Official Washington’s approach to the illegal drug business is not only inconsistent but also very selective. In the Enforcement Act of November 2011, which imposed sanctions against any person found engaged in contacts with organized crime, out of four well-known Italian criminal groups appeared only two; of the Mexican drug cartels also only two were selected.

    Even more interesting was a raid on New York Italian family clans in January 2011, a week before the start of the Arab Spring: under attack were all big families, except Bonanno family, whose representative testified against the competitors.

    Meanwhile Bonanno family is specialized in transit through Tunisia, which was the first in the calendar of the Arab Spring. The selective tactics has been applied in Israel, where from the pitch of Californian prosecutors started investigation of a series of assassinations committed by members and partners of the Abardzhil family – a major supplier of the ‘ecstasy’ to the United States.

    Some “kings” are removed from the playing field for the benefit of others.

    The tireless Washington’s concern addresses Africa as well. For several years, authorities stubbornly and unsuccessfully fought the Somali pirates, the “Lord’s Resistance Army” in Kenya, the “Al-Shabaab “, with the criminals in the Republic of Congo from the pitch of the Government of Rwanda.

    With the difference that in Africa, a selective approach is concerned not only drug trafficking, but also certain types of mineral extraction. And not so much the infamous “blood diamonds” as columbite-tantalite mineral (coltan) – an indispensable raw material in the manufacture of the mobile phones.

    One of the main conditions for the success of surrogate color revolutions is cheap means of communication. This low cost is paid for by the slave labor in the mines in eastern DRC (formerly Zaire) and Ethiopia. The immediate support for the Ethiopian brute dictatorship, guaranteeing this cheapness of the iPhones, was provided by the “sparkling” Samantha Power, now US ambassador to the UN.

    So when Bernard-Henri Levy denounced the Russian “propaganda” that the refugee problem was created by the United States, saying that they are running not only from Syria but also from Ethiopia, where Americans didn’t do any revolution – he had caught himself in a lie. He should’ve known that the conditions for the slave labor are most effectively created by ferocious colonial dictatorships.

    • malthuss January 10, 2017 at 10:43 pm #

      the conditions for the slave labor are most effectively created by ferocious colonial dictatorships.

      Really? South Africa. Zimbabwe. Congo.

  67. malthuss January 10, 2017 at 10:46 pm #

    You tube—Face of a Dying Nation Channel—-African Migrants Drown after Mistaking Tunisian Fishing Ship for Coast Guard and Sinking own Boats

    This amateur footage, taken by a Tunisian crewman of a fishing ship, shows the disastrous consequences of the EU’s open border policy that permits and encourages the continued scam of illegal Africans.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 10:52 pm #

      There’s no love lost between Black Africans and the Caucasians of North Africa. They have fought for control over North Africa for ages. Thus the Tunisians were able to watch them drown with equanimity if not pleasure. What else would, could, or should they do?

      Whites have to regain this natural state of implacable primal equanimity – or we are history. Elrond’s ethic of social gospel Christianity is saccharine – sweet death for all who partake. A social carcinogen.

    • BackRowHeckler January 10, 2017 at 11:35 pm #

      Reminds me of the scene in Camp of Saints when a Greek sea captain repels drowning 3rd world migrants trying to board his ship.

      Camp of Saints … was there ever a more prescient novel written in the past 500 years, down to the last detail? ‘specially the way the reaction of WEurope is portrayed.

      Do you think ‘Camp of Saints’ is on Snowflakes reading list at your local LBGQ University?


      • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 11:58 pm #

        Or when the Arabs fire a warning shot across the bow when the Fleet starts turning towards their Land. They knew that would be their first and last warning. They turned north towards easier victims.

      • malthuss January 11, 2017 at 9:33 am #

        I have not read nor need to read the book.

        Check Drudge, today.
        Air force will allow ‘Illustrated men who are ex pot heads and have asthma’ to join’.

  68. Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 11:02 pm #

    Polite applause at Obama’s Acceptance Speech? when he mentioned trying to understand White guys who have jobs “and seem to have everything”?. Thunderous applause at the mention of Whites needing to understand minorities and the browning of America.

    Elrond and his wife/husband and Justin and his wife/husband wept tears of sadness and hope: maybe he won’t go. Maybe Trump will be stopped by the forces of the Deep State.

    • Q. Shtik January 10, 2017 at 11:25 pm #

      Acceptance Speech? Acceptance of what?

      Justin who? Timberlake?

      • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2017 at 11:54 pm #

        Jim condemned your newspaper, the N.Y Slimes. Are you not going to make any effort to defend it? Or do you accept the condemnation of your paper, and by extension, of you as a reader?

    • BackRowHeckler January 10, 2017 at 11:52 pm #

      In the farewell speech, did he mention the handicapped white kid tortured by 4 negroes? It happened just a mile or two from where he was at. ( I know Ken never end a sentence with a preposition)

      Or was that left out? I don’t know, I didn’t watch it.


      • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 12:03 am #

        He did not! He did say we should try to get inside the other guy’s skin to see how he feels. Perhaps the Black who cut his scalp was trying to do that? But it was a modest effort compared to what is possible:

        ‘In Tahiti,’ notes Prof. Keeley, ‘a victorious warrior, given the opportunity, would pound his vanquished foe’s corpse flat with his heavy war club, cut a slit through the well-crushed victim, and don him as a trophy poncho.’

        Aztecs used to do the same thing. Mexican and Central American gangs are reviving some of these charming customs.

      • thwack January 11, 2017 at 10:45 am #

        the handicapped white kid tortured by 4 negroes made $100,000 on the gofundme website (and counting) for his family.

        To recapitulate:

        Negroes go to jail

        Family gets paid…

        So what is the problem here?

        Thanks to them ni66ers, the retard is probably finally getting the care he needed and deserved?

  69. Elrond Hubbard January 10, 2017 at 11:43 pm #

    Dylann Roof sentenced to death for Emanuel AME Church massacre

    “Just a few hours after he told a crowded courtroom, ‘I still feel like I had to do it,’ Dylann Roof was sentenced to death by a federal jury Tuesday for carrying out the mass shooting inside Charleston’s Emanuel AME Church in a bid to spark a race war.

    “The 12-member panel – three black jurors, nine white – deliberated for a little less than three hours before unanimously deciding the 22-year-old self-avowed white supremacist should die for his crimes rather than spend his life in prison without the possibility of parole.

    “U.S. District Judge Richard Gergel has scheduled a hearing for 9:30 a.m. Wednesday to formally impose that sentence and hear from loved ones who wish to address the killer.”


    The wrong move, I’m afraid, with all sympathy to the victims and their families. Dylann Roof will now be a martyr to that minuscule, depraved group of people who view his ninefold crime with anything but horror and condemnation. We would do better to give him a long interval in which to contemplate his sins. Better for him to die forgotten after a lifetime staring at bare walls.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 12:19 am #

      Ask not for whom the Toscin tolls, it tolls for thee. When the Blacks pogromed the Whites of Haiti, they didn’t ask which where the bad ones and which where the good. They killed all they could catch, Elrond. All, Elrond. ALL were Punish-ed.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 11, 2017 at 10:01 am #

        The lesson I take from that is: don’t enslave people. That way, one’s chances of them rising up to end their slavery is greatly improved.

        • pequiste January 11, 2017 at 2:48 pm #

          Memo to Confederate States of America:

          Next time pick your own cotton.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 3:19 pm #

          The take away is the savagery of Blacks. And so when you free your Black Slaves, send them far away, beyond the Continent if not the Ocean.

          You people want to put them everywhere, in every White town and village. You are more evil than they are because you are more intelligent and thus more culpable. And you want them to assault, torment, and murder your Conservative foes – and that’s every White Man, Woman, and Child who doesn’t agree with your Agenda.

          • thwack January 11, 2017 at 10:57 pm #

            But don’t forget Janos, without black people, white people (such as yourself) could not be white?

            and when white people can’t be white, they fight, harm and abuse each other instead of ni66as (I know my European history)

            So, we actually did y’all a big favor by being here and functioning as a permanent ‘red headed step child” class.

            *you’re welcome*

  70. janet January 11, 2017 at 12:58 am #

    “multiculturalism was invented here and so far this has been the one place where it actually works.” –elrond

    elrond, Canada is not the only place it works. Multi-culturalism thrives in many, many countries with strong economies. Proof that diversity is strength.

    For example, India and the UK are both multi-cultural and they are in an economic race. According to Forbes (Dec. 16, 2016) India’s economy will be larger than the UK’s, for the first time in more than 100 years. This dramatic shift has been driven by India’s rapid economic growth over the past 25 years. India an example of a multicultural society… where people speak 122 major languages and 1599 other languages. Unity in diversity is the beauty of India… and the economic benefit means Indian is now surpassing the UK economically. The UK is also multicultural:

    “One of the things people regularly tell me is that Bristol’s diversity is the thing they love most about our city. I agree with them, it is one of our greatest strengths. We are a city of at least 180 countries, over 90 languages and 45 religions. One in five of us and one in three school children are from a Black and Minority Ethnic community. And the different parts of Bristol, from Hartcliffe to Avonmouth to Cotham, have their own distinct feel. This cultural and social mix has many benefits to the local economy.”

    Read more at http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/we-re-backing-bristol-how-multiculturalism-boosts-our-economy/story-29652144-detail/story.html#CU3CDMbIsD074Yvg.99

    • stelmosfire January 11, 2017 at 9:17 am #

      From an older article Janet/ccc This is what yer’ multiculturalism gets ya. I am sure the problem is worse today. Perhaps you want to “PARTY” with them?

      Five hundred miles away in Bristol, a group of schoolgirls tell me about “FGM parties”.
      “They cut them all together, as a group, because it is cheaper and quicker that way,” explains 17-year-old Amina.
      “At first the girls are all excited because it’s a party, until they realize what is going to happen, and then they get frightened.
      “It’s done by the elder women, or the Imam, whoever is expert at cutting.”


      • thwack January 11, 2017 at 10:55 am #

        Boys get circumcised all the time and no one raised a big stink about it?

        I know cause Im one of em.

        Where is my pity party?

        Where is my outrage festival?

        Tell them girls to man the f*ck up and get over it…

        I did, why can’t they?

        • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 2:30 pm #

          Did they cut the head of your penis off – because that’s what female circumcision is, genius: taking the clitoris off.

          And if four Whites kidnapped and tortured a Black kid, it would be front page news internationally for weeks and months. They’re still talking about that punk Emmitt Till and it’s been a hundred years.

          • thwack January 11, 2017 at 10:46 pm #

            Non white people invented circumcision for a reason; and I strongly suspect that reason was compensatory. White people (such as yourself) are NOT qualified to decide if the practice is correct or incorrect.

            In addition, because you are a racist white supremacist, I can’t trust any suggestion you make?

            Don’t forget, you white people are also pushing faggotry, pornography and feminism all over the planet too.

            No thanks Casper.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 11, 2017 at 10:07 am #

      Considering the Brexit vote, I think the picture of multiculturalism in the UK is less rosy than the one you paint, janet. The real underlying issue there is economics, with British-born workers seeing their prospects stagnate or decline over decades, but it expresses itself in ethnic tensions and nationalism. That’s the way the crooked timber, uh, crooks, I guess.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

        And you brought the aliens in – and kept bringing them in despite double digit unemployment? Your kid – the crookedest crooks of them all. You feel closer to Muslim aliens than you do your own underclass. So much for your Marxism!

  71. janet January 11, 2017 at 1:31 am #

    “the stereotypes about immigrants today were said, almost word for word, about the Irish, Italians, and Poles. America wasn’t weakened by the presence of these newcomers; they embraced this nation’s creed, and it was strengthened.

    So regardless of the station we occupy; we have to try harder; to start with the premise that each of our fellow citizens loves this country just as much as we do; that they value hard work and family like we do; that their children are just as curious and hopeful and worthy of love as our own.” –Obama’s Final Speech, Jan. 10, 2017

    • elysianfield January 11, 2017 at 11:53 am #

      The Irish, Italians and Poles…assimilated, they made that choice. Blacks? Their culture demands otherwise. We would like nothing more than for them to get with the program, drop the veil of victimhood, educate themselves, and become as productive as their gifts would allow. We are in agreement with this wish…yes?

  72. janet January 11, 2017 at 2:34 am #

    The intelligence community was confident enough about the information in the memos to brief Obama and Trump on them. Both Obama and Trump were briefed and informed that the Russians have information about Trump that can be used to blackmail Trump.

    It turns out Trump went to Russia with an unsecured telephone, used unsecured internet, and did not behave himself well in Russia. Maybe he grabbed more than just pussy? We are now going to pay for Trump’s immorality, for Trump’s weakness, narcissism, and lack of ethics. We are going to pay for Trump having zero experience in government service and zero experience in diplomacy. Putin now has Trump by the short hairs.

    Because Russian spies have compromising personal and financial information about Trump, we have a constitutional crisis and Trump should admit that he is compromised. If Trump denies it and continues to praise Russia, then after Jan. 20 we will have a traitor in the White House, one who claims to be Commander in Chief of the U.S. armed forces, but who can be blackmailed and will operate as Putin’s puppet.

  73. janet January 11, 2017 at 2:43 am #

    Far as I know, grabbing a woman by her genitals without her consent is sexual assault, in both Russia and the United States.

    Asked at his confirmation hearing about a 2005 video in which Donald Trump bragged about using his fame to force himself on women, Sen. Jeff Sessions said he believes grabbing a woman by her genitalia is sexual assault.

    Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont asked Sessions, the president-elect’s pick for attorney general, about some conflicting statements Sessions made on the campaign trail after the video was released.

    In the video, Trump says, “when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”

    Leahy asked Sessions at Tuesday’s hearing: “Is grabbing a woman by her genitals without her consent sexual assault?”

    Sessions answered: “Clearly it is.”

    • thwack January 11, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

      Ive been thru quite a few different women, and Im here to tell you that



      “no” means “yes”




      anal, choking, spanking…

      *just sayin*

  74. janet January 11, 2017 at 3:11 am #

    Trump enjoyed watching prostitutes perform “golden showers” in his fancy Moscow hotel room.

    Trump raped a child. The victim filed a lawsuit last year that Trump raped her years ago when she was a 13-year-old model.

    Trump raped his first wife, Ivana. She once accused him of holding her, pulling her hair and raping her in a fit of rage during their marriage. The incident was detailed in the 1993 book, “Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump.”

    Trump tried to catch young beauty pageant contestants undressed. Various women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Trump had a habit of entering the dressing room while contestants as young as 15 were not fully clothed.

    Trump likes to grab women by the genitals. Trump has said women will let men do anything to them if they are famous. “Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything,” he said.

    Rape of a 13 year old, rape of an ex-wife, voyeurism, prostitution, golden showers, and sexual assault by grabbing pussies… these are not all of Trump’s sexual and criminal perversions. Russian operatives have additional compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, CNN reported Tuesday.

  75. Frankiti January 11, 2017 at 5:36 am #

    WPA-CCC back posting deep state propaganda, or, what a Patreon donation gets you these days…

  76. Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 6:39 am #

    Elrond said: The wrong move, I’m afraid, with all sympathy to the victims and their families. Dylann Roof will now be a martyr to that minuscule, depraved group of people who view his ninefold crime with anything but horror and condemnation. We would do better to give him a long interval in which to contemplate his sins. Better for him to die forgotten after a lifetime staring at bare walls.

    I don’t think Roof has the capacity to contemplate anything. This guy has an IQ no greater than 80. In fact, 80 is pushing it. What Roof did is horrible, heinous and tragic. But it’s not nearly as heinous and despicable as some of the things Bill Clinton did as President and all Presidents do as a matter of course. Let’s face it, additional tragedy is heaped upon the tragedy Roof perpetrated by turning Roof and the horrific crime he perpetrated into a Political Football in order to score points in a Game that has no winners, only losers.

    #CharlestonShooting — Part 1

  77. Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 8:12 am #

    Hey, K-Dog, it’s time to use your Noggin. You’re up to that, I hope.

    Here’s the latest blog post from Moon of Alabama blog.


    Here’s a quote from that blog post.

    This is bonkers from a to z. ~ b (alleged proprietor of Moon of Alabama blog)

    This b character, b being short for Bernhard apparently, is allegedly a German Communist from Hamburg and yet he’s using not just English, but specific English jargon in his translation. In my study of that blog, I find contradictions like this all the time. So, K-Dog, who or what is really behind that blog? Is it just an aging German Communist Judo Champion residing in Hamburg, or is it something more than that? This b, as well, often uses the term “we” rather than “I.” I think it’s an unconscious mistake, but it underscores that Moon of Alabama blog is not a single proprietor, but instead a team. Hmmmmmm….

    • Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 8:24 am #

      And K-Dog, I have a message for you to relate to The Colonel. I have a date marked on my calendar. It’s an open date, meaning it’s predicated upon another naturally occurring event, the timing of which I can’t be sure. When The Colonel passes away, not too long thereafter, I will be making a pilgrimage to his gravesite to spit and piss on the Scumbag’s grave. I never forget. Ever. The Colonel, if his faith is to be believed, subscribes to the notion of heaven and hell. As such, may he burn with furious, unrelenting pain in the fires of the hell he believes in for all eternity. You hear that Colonel — you fucking hypocritical, cowardly, repugnant excrement? I’ll dance with you any day, Scumbag, but without your medication and your guns and your special ops goons. Just you and me and our psyches laid bare. I guarantee you I’ll win that battle — a battle you would never engage in because you can’t cheat like the cowardly fuck you are.

      • Q. Shtik January 11, 2017 at 11:11 am #

        What are we talking about here, the KFC Colonel?

        • Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 11:29 am #

          It’s beyond your purview. Above your pay grade. So yeah, for you, it’s the KFC Colonel.

          • K-Dog January 12, 2017 at 4:11 am #

            Cold Hole, would it not be better to spit on the graves of those who employed him? I suggest you determine that you will live long enough to do it!

            Q, no relation to finger lickin good. Cold was referring to the Colonel I mention in the Standing Rock article I wrote which is currently on my website. I will disagree and say it is not beyond your purview or your pay grade to read it.

            Regarding the MoA article I think the best quote is:

            The current publication of this full barrel of bullshit

            I like that phrase.

            Regarding the Trump sex tape hooey in Moscow hotel rooms and any of the other contents of the full barrel of bullshit. There is nothing new about our government putting out lies to confuse and mislead people. One could say fake news and lies are our national security agencies weapons of mass destruction. The purpose of the current artificially generated ‘fake news’ meme is to suppress independent yellow journalism which tends to lie much of the time and promote mainstream and controlled journalism which never lies about inconsequential events at all so as to build an authoritarian respectable, and unassailable reputation from which they can deceive the public as the occasion demands.

            Regarding the specific MoA article referenced by Cold I can’t tell what is real and what is fake. I’m a strange dog as I am quite comfortable not forming an opinion without evidence and as no evidence is presented in the MoA article one way or another I disregard the article altogether. I admit I am sympathetic to the article’s POV but I am put off by the level of detail which is presented without evidence to back it up.

            For instance: “Neocon senator John McCain, friend of Ukrainian fascists and Trump enemy, passed (<-details) the "report" to the FBI and thereby made it into an official document."

            It seems to me that was just pulled out of a monkey's ass. How would anybody know that? Only the deep state can tap phones an spy with the level of detail needed to find something like this out. And John McCain? I'd have preferred they had thrown in a Kardashian instead. That would be more entertaining.

            We are now at a stage where we can't trust any of our media. Perception management and not the presentation of truth has become the acceptable way things are now done in the American empire. The purpose of which is to keep everybody confused and immobile so we continue to maintain a passive posture to the exercise of power by the small few who keep it to themselves.

  78. pequiste January 11, 2017 at 8:36 am #

    BRH asks:

    “Do you think ‘Camp of Saints’ is on Snowflakes reading list at your local LBGQ University?”

    Well BackRow, I don’t know about Raspail’s astonishing prophetic piece ever having been included in the collections of the libraries of Ha?va?d, Stanford, NYU, Oberlin or Mt Holyoke (kind of doubt it,) but I can bet certain volumes of Kipling, Conrad and Twain have been expunged and met the fate of biblioclasm or worse, to help validate persons-of-colour, Yzlamix, indeed all SJWs of every stripe and to also assuage the guilt of these vile, filthy dens of White Privilege and hate.

    Cleared for delicate minds: The Politics of Sailor Moon; “Daddy’s New Roommate,” “Heather Has Two Mommies,” and replacing “Gulliver’s Travels’ – Dora The Explorer. YAAY!

    • thwack January 11, 2017 at 11:07 am #

      I don’t know about Raspail’s astonishing prophetic piece ever having been included in the collections of the libraries of Ha?va?d, Stanford, NYU, Oberlin or Mt Holyoke (kind of doubt it,)


      Does the book start off with the part where white people are destabilizing, all the nonwhite countries where these “saints” live?






      or do they leave that part out the same way YOU left it out?

  79. FincaInTheMountains January 11, 2017 at 8:46 am #

    The Cotton Club

    A striking movie that is more or less truthfully tells about the late 1920’s and early 1930’s in the United States, which is strongly reminiscent of the end of 1990th and beginning of the 2000’s in Russia and at the same time like a bottle of good port the film leaves a rather pleasant aftertaste.


  80. Dumbedup January 11, 2017 at 9:32 am #

    It is hard to know what to make of the furor over fake news. I think we are all going to have to learn to read and think more critically to figure out what is true and what is fake. But I’m suspicious now that there are forces (neo-con and neo-liberal) who see their existence threatened and have conjured up this story that Trump is being blackmailed and/or is cooperating with the Russians as he takes office as President.

    Will some variation of this story dog him for the next 4 years as the anti-Trump forces try to set him up for impeachment?

    I don’t like the idea that a foreign government attempted to influence our elections, and I’m not a big fan of Donald Trump, but I’m inclined to believe that the globalists (American fascists who want America to lead the NWO) have had their cart upended and are trying to discredit Trump before he takes the oath of office.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 11, 2017 at 10:17 am #

      Dumbedup: “Will some variation of this story dog him for the next 4 years as the anti-Trump forces try to set him up for impeachment?”

      Oh yeah, that’s a done deal. This will follow Trump forever, regardless of impeachment. It is to Trump what birtherism was to Obama: impossible to address, because the truth or falsehood of it doesn’t matter to his opponents, only the stink.

      Any way you slice it it’s very, very bad for America as a country that this has happened. But I can’t resist the sense of poetic justice that the birther-in-chief is reaping the very crop he sowed, in bad faith, with Obama.

      • aNanyMouse January 11, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

        Elrond, I hear you on the poetry of this Russia stuff at Trump, but it has key differences from birtherism, which (so I recall) got only lip-service coverage from major MSM outfits like the WaPo, and which could be laughed off by the world’s Nuke Powers. This time, the WaPo is leading the charge, despite a Nuke Power having a bunch of skin in this game.

        I’ll guess that Fincaln is on the right track about the rifts within the Deep State about stuff like this. Hold on to your hats!

    • volodya January 11, 2017 at 10:28 am #

      What to make of the furor? The furor is a contrivance. It is as fake as all this – cough – “fake news”. See, in the old days “fake news” was called lies and propaganda. Misinformation was the stock-in-trade of vested interests.

      But these millennial snowflake know-nothings are convinced they’re onto something. And the bureaucratic bi-coastal clerisy who work for various aspects of the Deep State and its Oligarch overseers, encourage them in their unshakable self-belief.

      But, in fact, they’re onto nothing, at least nothing new. “Fake news” is as old as sapiens, those of us of a certain age grew up immersed Cold War “fake news”, not only from the side of the West’s military-industrial complex but also from the other side. You remember, Pravda, Izvestia, disseminators of the most laughable bullshit.

      Here we have various governmental statistical agencies to do the job, like the Bureau of Economic Analysis. Plus private sector lackeys like the New York Times. And let’s not forget the Fed. And academia, especially the economics profession. They are nothing if not distributors of “fake news”. Have been since Day One.

      Some writers like our friend the Archdruid think that the ruling oligarchs aren’t a monolith, that the facade of unanimity on matters like globalization conceals deep differences. Well, that may be but I think that the agreements are more important than the differences.

      They want a loose cannon like Trump out and they want a dependable puppet like Hillary in. Hence this absurd talk of “fake news” and Russian hacks of the election. So they keep up a steady stream of “fake news” of their own, they keep chiseling at the election result, they do what they can to de-legitimize it. Trump has to go and they won’t stop until he’s gone, one way or another.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 2:37 pm #

      Yes, it was a fraud which the Media picked up, could not authenticate, but couldn’t resist releasing anyway. Now they have even less credibility than they did yesterday. At least you care about the Truth – Elrond has been corrupted by the Ring of Power and cares nothing for it anymore. A purely political creature. A Gollum.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 11, 2017 at 4:14 pm #

        Actually, I think I’m more of a Tom Bombadil, the character so out of step with people’s expectations that they left him out of all six movies (even when they desperately needed material to pad out the Hobbit trilogy). Tom Bombadil, you’ll note, was immune to the One Ring precisely because he appreciated things for what they were and had no wish to impose his will on others. But that didn’t stop him from reproving Frodo for trying to use the Ring to play tricks.

        On the subject of the truth, it wasn’t “the Media” with a capital M that published the unsubstantiated watersports reports; it was Buzzfeed. Other outlets had the same documents and didn’t publish them precisely because they couldn’t be independently verified. I already quoted this from The Guardian: “The Guardian has not been able to confirm the veracity of the documents’ contents, and the Trump team has consistently denied any hidden contacts with the Russian government.” It appears Buzzfeed forced the issue by deciding to publish the documents regardless of their unverifiability:


        What really interested me about the documents was things like the following:

        “Suggestion from source close to TRUMP and MANAFORT that Republican campaign team happy to have Russia as media bogeyman to mask more extensive corrupt business ties to China and other emerging countries”.

        Or this:

        “Commenting on the negative media publicity surrounding alleged Russian interference in the US election campaign in support of TRUMP, Source E said he understood that the Republican candidate and his team were relatively relaxed about this because it deflected media and the Democrats’ attention away from TRUMP’s business dealings in China and other emerging markets. Unlike in Russia, these were substantial and involved the payment of large bribes and kickbacks which, were they to become public, would be potentially very damaging to their campaign.”

        (Emphasis added.) These are unsubstantiated allegations, but quite serious ones that need to be investigated. Under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act it is illegal for corporations or business people to influence foreign officials with any personal payments or rewards. The American people need a high degree of assurance that the man about to occupy the highest office in the land is not a lawbreaker.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 11:00 pm #

          So you say today, in the cold light of day. But last night you were in a feeding frenzy along with all your Media Orcs. Like Saruman, you shouted, “We will feast on man flesh.”

          If you knew something false would destroy someone, would you use it anyway – or would you reveal its falsity? I believe you would use it against a hated enemy as long as it couldn’t be traced back to you. And all normal Whites are your Enemy.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 12, 2017 at 10:01 am #

            You’re wrong.You don’t care what I say, but I speak for the record. I did indulge in a bit of schadenfreude at Trump experiencing the same kind of gaslighting he and many others visited on Obama for eight years over his birth certificate, but that’s all it was.

            The dossier is a tissue of anonymously-sourced, evidence-free oppo research/slander with absolutely no corroboration. I do think that the China bribery allegation is a thread worth pulling, though. Who knows if it will actually lead anywhere?

  81. barbisbest January 11, 2017 at 10:09 am #

    Stockman’s book Trumped should be enlightening! We’ve been Bushwacked, now we are to be Trumped. Trump’s troop of trolls (say that 3 times fast) are taking over the district. Talk about filling up the swamp. You betcha. At least Americans didn’t get Romney shoved down it’s collective throat as Secretary of State, that which it rejected 4 years ago. Deep State, deep swamp. What the hell’s the difference.

  82. barbisbest January 11, 2017 at 10:23 am #

    Hash tag: Not My President.

  83. messianicdruid January 11, 2017 at 10:39 am #

    Dumbedup said, “I was responding to the post above that said Rick Santelli won the debate…The claim that everyone does it so it must be okay (especially when it hurts the candidate you oppose) is a school yard argument.”

    That was not his argument, that was simply his two cents worth. The point Santelli was making was that it had been happening for the last six months, but only became an issue after Clinton lost. The media ignored it as long as they could because of the information contained in the emails, then when a way was provided to spin it and talk about sourcing rather than content. They are still doing it. The debate never really happened, cut short and redirected immediately back to the evil Russian meme. Timing was the issue, and to democratic eyes, if she is elected – it goes away – since he was elected it must be replaced [ with source argument ] and made to go away.

    Everybody knows everybody is doing it- we’ve all bought into that hypocrisy – and therefore have accepted blowback for it – for the children [ the few that don’t know ].

  84. volodya January 11, 2017 at 10:43 am #

    Elrond, when the Lower Downs forget their place and start to complain about their lot, what happens? The Ones On Top raise the specter of Bolshevism or, in our present day circumstance, Fascism. Can’t have the unworthy and unwashed getting uppity now can we?

    The approach is simple. A matter of basic economics, as you put it yourself, that being exporting jobs while importing newcomers, all in an effort to drive down hourly wages, is re-cast in terms of openness to foreigners, and borderlessness and freedom.

    And if you’re against this openness and borderlessness, well, it’s easy, you’re a bigot, you’re uneducated, you’re a xenophobe, you’re afraid of change. Of course, this is nonsense, such people just don’t want their bread and butter mainstays ruined. You have to eat as everyone knows and there aren’t enough jobs to go around for the existing populace never mind immigrants.

    But the Ones On Top only care about their own bottom lines. To them, hourly wage earners are expendable. Hence Brexit, hence Trump.

    • thwack January 11, 2017 at 11:12 am #

      If all the jobs are going to Mexico, why are all the Mexicans coming here?

      • volodya January 11, 2017 at 11:20 am #

        All the Mexicans aren’t coming here. But desperate ones are. To over-generalize, they’re coming here to be pickers. Those that can’t get 3 dollar an hour jobs in re-located factories in Mexico get jobs in the US on farms. According to one such picker it would take a week to earn in Mexico on a farm what he can make in one day in the US. It’s not just illegal Mexicans coming it’s a lot of other people coming in legally. Things are so lousy in their home country that they’ll take a chance in the US.

        • thwack January 11, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

          “Take a chance here?”

          you mean like selling heroin?

          or armed robbery, like the blacks?

  85. barbisbest January 11, 2017 at 10:56 am #

    But the ones on top care only for their bottom line. Not much truer words have been posted.

  86. ozone January 11, 2017 at 10:58 am #

    This comment section is one vast wasteland on “punking” by the very Deep State that JHK derides this week.

    It has a darkly humorous comparison in the latest “intelligence leak” that McStain foisted upon the publick via Buzzfeed (and then on to Big Media).

    Pop up the popcorn; this is going to be quite the show. I can’t think of a more entertaining way for what little remains of the MANY intel agencies credibility (and their handmaidens in the the MSM) to finally crumble into their own cesspool of lies and disinformation.

    So, to all you paid bullshitters: Go Fuck Yourselves. You don’t matter anymore and your just desserts will be well-earned. Got employment? Didn’t think so, but you can always write “stooge” on that application; that should get you a coveted position.

    • volodya January 11, 2017 at 11:30 am #

      It would be a net improvement if these intel agencies, these bastions of incompetence and lawlessness, were disbanded.

      • Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 11:45 am #

        If I were POTUS it would be my first order of business before they burst my head open like a watermelon.

    • sprawlcapital January 11, 2017 at 11:51 am #

      Well stated O3. I often picture several of our stooges working in adjoining cubicles, very small cubicles, in keeping with their low pay. They get together in the break room and laugh about us. It is impossible to insult them, so best to ignore them. They are like the tar baby–any attempt to fight back merely results in one getting glued to tar.

      By the way:

      For one agency, the possessive is agency’s.
      For more than one agency, it’s agencies’.

      Just a mistake in hitting the keys, of course.

      Better a pedant than a stooge. Last summer, when I corrected him/it, Danny told me to grow up. Back to your tiny cubicle, Danny.

      Sent from Des Moines, Iowa, the Suburban Sprawl Capital of the world.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

      Yes, Elrond is just such a stooge. I never believed the slander of the day about Mr Trump. And how they screech about Russia! – like any McCarthyite.

  87. capt spaulding January 11, 2017 at 11:08 am #

    I’m no particular fan of Obama, but I do find it ironic to see the birthers get outraged over the rumors about Trump & Putin, considering that they spread rumors about Obama not being born here. It’s even funnier when you consider that Trump himself was one of the biggest Birthers. Talk about being hoist by his own petard. Ah the irony. Fake news anybody?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 2:41 pm #

      The evidence for Obama being born elsewhere is very, very strong. The evidence for Trump hiring piss prostitutes is non-existent. You just don’t have any capacity for discernment, Cap.

      Please stop voting.

      • capt spaulding January 12, 2017 at 9:42 am #

        Neither the Trump story nor the Obama story is true. I was pointing out the irony of Trump being smeared with a false story just like he smeared Obama with his birther bullshit. Look up the word irony, and then look up discernment. You apparently don’t know much about either word. I can lead you to the water Janos, but I can’t make you drink.

  88. Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 11:43 am #

    I didn’t listen to, or watch, Obama’s Farewell Address last night except for the opening minute or two. He is every bit the Grand Stander Trump is, just a more intelligent & articulate rendition. I can’t stand his cockiness. He has his own swagger just as Putin does. He’s very much in love with himself, just as Putin and Trump are in love with themselves. I don’t even think Hillary loves herself as much as those three.

    Anyway, they were showing bits and pieces of Obama’s Farewell Address on the Cable News Networks this morning and one quote jumped out at me. Obama said something to the effect that his Presidency broke a barrier — that the White House was now accessible to everyone and not just a select few.

    You know, he’s right about that and Trump is following in Obama’s footsteps. The White House, since it’s now accessible to everyone, is now also accessible to “former” Communists, namely Vladimir Putin.

    In all seriousness though, not that I wasn’t being serious, Obama is full of shit. Of course he was referring to the matter of Race, but any intelligent person knows that Race is used to divide & fracture & distract from the real war that’s being waged non-stop 24/7 — The Class War. The White House is not accessible to The Poor. It never was and it never will be, so Obama’s a liar, but of course, I already knew he was — this just validates it further.

    • capt spaulding January 11, 2017 at 12:05 pm #

      They’re all Oligarchs anyway so it really doesn’t matter which one of them is running the show. If you scratch Putin, Trump will appear. You are also absolutely right about the class war, & half of these rubes don’t realize we’re in one.

    • sprawlcapital January 11, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

      Among the many reasons I’m not an Obama fan is the way he talks, and I don’t mean any slight black accent he may have. It’s his tendency to whisper the last word of nearly every sentence–like he’s swallowing the word.

      I wonder if he learned this in the Ivy League? Anyway, there will soon be fewer times for me to have to listen to it.

  89. Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 12:42 pm #

    elysianfields said: Q was an officer…have you not been attendant?

    An officer perhaps, but NEVER a gentleman. I suggest we substitute sleazy pervert for gentleman.

    An Officer and a Sleazy Pervert.

    It has a nice ring to it, you must admit, and, it’s rather fitting, I’d say.

  90. Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

    I watched a little tiny bit of Trump’s first Press Conference since he was “elected.” I had to turn it off — it was too much like Nazi Germany for my tastes, thank you very much. Next time maybe they can make it more like Stalinist Russia or Maoist China or…..fill in the blank.

    • capt spaulding January 11, 2017 at 2:47 pm #

      It’s getting weird, Cold, but I suspect that it’s gonna get weirder. There is no question in my mind that the wheels are coming off, and we are entering into unexplored (for us) territory. Anyone who is capable of thinking critically about the bizarre nature of what is happening, should be able to see that we are entering (for us), new unexplored territory. It should give any thoughtful person a few sleepless nights. By the way, I see Trump as resembling Mussolini. If you look at old film of Benito strutting around, I think you will agree. Yours in the pursuit of sanity, I am Capt Spaulding.

    • Dumbedup January 11, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

      He’s defensive and arrogant, and not very bright. If he has been coached on public speaking it doesn’t show. I was reminded of the quote from Hamlet, “the lady doth protest too much.” He’s hiding something. Not saying its about the Russians … but it might be.

  91. wayfarer January 11, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

    This article is pure opinion with no substantiating evidence backing it up. I grant you that getting the ‘substantiating evidence’ is very difficult nowdays but I think U.S. citizens should place there faith in the FBI, CIA, and NSA rather than the Russians when it comes to trusting one or the other.

    This blog has lost all meaning. It used to be a good place back when it discussed important things like energy.

    • capt spaulding January 11, 2017 at 2:33 pm #


    • Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

      I don’t place my faith in any of them, be it the American Alphabet Agencies or Russia. However, I won’t take sides in the kerfuffle because I’m not sure how REAL the kerfuffle is or that there even are sides.

      What I do know is, I had direct experience with a Scumbag from the “Intelligence Community.” He is a former Director of Human intelligence for the DoD. He threatened to have his Special Ops Goons do to me what he and they did to Che. When I told him his threat was illegal and especially egregious considering his position and stature and that I was contemplating contacting the FBI about it, he told me to go right ahead — and, in fact, offered to give me The Director’s number because he’s great friends with The Director. The “Intelligence Community” to include the FBI, the NSA and the CIA know about this Scumbag, and no doubt they know about his threat to have me murdered. In fact, since we know the NSA stores all electronic data for later retrieval if they so desire to parse it, we know they have the entire exchange I had with this Fuck Face “on file.” And yet, they’ve done nothing about it. Nothing. This Shitbird should be in jail and his military honors should be stripped. The message is clear — this Scumbag and all his Scumbag friends & colleagues in the “Intelligence Community” can do anything they damn well please and get away with it because the law obviously doesn’t apply to them.

      Everything I just described is true. I wouldn’t make something like that up. The American “Intelligence Community” is just as malevolent as Putin’s Russia, and, in fact, if it’s not in cahoots with Putin’s Russia, I’d say it’s rather envious of Russia’s autocracy. Think how refreshing it would be for them to remove their cowardly masks and be who they really are without shame. That’s what Putin’s Russia is like, and I’m sure that’s what the American “Intelligence Community” hopes America will be like if The Colonel is any indication, and I believe he is.

      If I’m wrong, then prove it you Fuckers. Put that Motherfucker in jail where he belongs and don’t pretend you don’t know what I’m talking about, you cowardly cheaters.

      • elysianfield January 11, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

        “The American “Intelligence Community” is just as malevolent as Putin’s Russia,”

        “Gentlemen do not read other people’s mail….”-Henry Stimson

        Are you suggesting that they’re reading our mail, and, by extension, they are not “Gentlemen”?

        • Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 5:40 pm #

          I think they’re doing a great deal more than reading our mail. It’s beyond them not being Gentlemen. I don’t even think they’re human.

          • K-Dog January 12, 2017 at 4:38 am #

            From their point of view they are at war and in war like love, anything goes.

            They are all too human!

            They do do a lot more than simply read mail. I have tried to send emails to news agencies and have had them scrambled up and sent back to me as undeliverable. That lets the air out of any whistle-blowing pipes you may have had pretty quick.

            They are at war all right. A war to keep their paychecks coming!

          • K-Dog January 12, 2017 at 5:00 am #

            The icing on the cake for them being that no news agency will talk to you without an introductory email first. I found that out quick. Then I realized that news agencies were probably directed to require introductory emails by the deep state. The purpose being so nobody can contradict or attack the deep state. News agencies not realizing they have been played by this ploy go along with this requirement as a feel good patriotic duty as ‘wayfarer’ demonstrates in saying,

            “U.S. citizens should place” their “faith in the FBI, CIA, and NSA”.

            Would ‘wayfarer’ have said the same thing if we were living in Germany in the 1930’s?

            Of course he would have. He is either an idiot or he works for the Gestapo. He would have been as stupid then as he is now.

  92. Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

    capt spaulding, I agree about the Mussolini comparison. The body & facial gestures are very similar. It was disturbing watching that Press Conference for the little bit of time I did. There are no Good Faith actors in any of this. Trump is nuts, no doubt about it, but the Liberals who are criticizing him are equally as nuts and a bunch of hypocrites as well.

    I mean, seriously. Golden Showers? Really? What would their reaction be if the shoe was on the other foot and this was being done to Obama? Of course, we know that’s an impossible scenario because Obama has those special Deep State connections that prevent such a thing, but let’s speculate on it anyway. Let’s say the “Intelligence Community” released information after Obama was elected indicating that The Muslim Brotherhood meddled in the election. Further, let’s say as part of that Intelligence Report it was revealed that during Obama’s trip to Pakistan whilst he was in college, there was footage of him banging )( and gifting them with Pearl Necklaces) Bacha Boys two at a time like Fredo in Vegas, except Fredo preferred Cocktail Waitresses. How would the Liberals react to that? Much the same way the Conservatives are acting about these unsubstantiated allegations about Trump and Golden Showers. This Red Team/Blue Team bullshit is nauseating and counterproductive, and I think that’s by design. Divide & Conquer.

    For the few of us who can step outside the Binary Bind, it;s a very lonely place. We see the futility of it all. Rather than constructively constructing a Post Carbon world, they’re ensuring Armageddon.

  93. Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 3:28 pm #

    capt spaulding, your post made me think of something. Perhaps Trump is a Sign of the Times. He’s a manifestation of The Singularity. Amongst other things, my understanding of The Singularity is that change happens so rapidly, our perceptual models for understanding our World begin to break down and consequently we increasingly can’t make sense of the new realities coming at us like bullets in a fire fight. Even the creators of realities can’t keep up, and it’s precisely at this point where no one or nothing, absent some greater unacknowledged distributed intelligence, is any longer in control and the management of anything becomes ever more difficult to near impossoble. I think we’ve reached that point.

  94. FincaInTheMountains January 11, 2017 at 4:45 pm #

    Coup d’etat with the trembling hands

    I watched Trump’s press conference today:

    The head of the intelligence agencies are trying to make a coup d’etat. And all these indignant cries of the connection of election of President Trump with Putin’s Russian hackers are part of this flaccid coup.

    And when Trump poked a CNN correspondent face-on-the-table, I was happy as kid!

    The attempt at the coup actually takes place, but yesterday’s press conference with the heads of intelligence agencies is irresistibly reminiscent of the 1991 Soviet coup d’état attempt and shaking hands of Yanaev.


    And after some thinking, and remembering the already mentioned affinity between Trump and Yeltsin, I came to the conclusion that this similarity is not situational, but is based on the coincidence of a historically substantial missions of Spotted Judas Gorbachev and Hillary, or if you want late CPSU-KGB-Komsomol and the Sect of the Neocons.

  95. Dumbedup January 11, 2017 at 4:55 pm #

    Glenn Greenwald has a great article about the Deep State’s war with Trump. I know JHK doesn’t like links, but it is called “The Intercept” and the article is linked on Jesse’s Cafe Americain website.

    • Frankiti January 11, 2017 at 5:29 pm #

      As I’ve said, Greenwald does more from his laptop in his Brazilian treehouse than the MSM does with billions

  96. Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 5:00 pm #

    Sean Hannity: It was a different Michael Kohn. Journalism is dead and Trump buried it this morning.

    He didn’t kill it – it committed suicide.

    • Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 5:38 pm #

      Umm, hey Numb Nuts, Hannity is also The Mainstream Media, so he’s dead too.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 11, 2017 at 11:05 pm #

        He’s been great the last six months on Trump, defending him against these cannibals. In general, he’s a bit of a dunce, especially on Israel.

        Did you hear he actually went to Ecuador to interview Assange? If nothing else, this is a guy fighting very hard to reinvent himself and save his career.

        “Wikileaks has been right on everything for the last ten years.” Is this true? An extraordinary statement from Sean, and even more extraordinary if true.

        • Q. Shtik January 11, 2017 at 11:27 pm #

          Did you hear he actually went to Ecuador to interview Assange? – Janos


          Assange is in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.

  97. FincaInTheMountains January 11, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

    Brilliant Trump performance at a press conference! The media in vain is trying to make out of him a Playboy who accidentally wandered into the political playground: he is intelligent, strong-willed, and fearless, and not searching for words in his pocket.

    And his words may prove prophetic: after 8 years America will be grateful to him – and maybe not only America!

  98. Cold N. Holefield January 11, 2017 at 5:37 pm #

    I agree Finca, Trump’s Press Conference was superb. It should be the Paradigm for Press Conferences going forward. For the first time in my life, it made me proud to be an American and it made me proud of America. If this Press Conference is an example of things to come as far as a Trump Administration is concerned, he truly will Make America Great Again.

    • messianicdruid January 11, 2017 at 8:52 pm #

      So far, America has been a promise. The catch is “We the People” have to do it ourselves. No dependence on “leaders” without vision [ the blind ]~•???¤???

    • Q. Shtik January 11, 2017 at 11:20 pm #

      I agree Finca, Trump’s Press Conference was superb. It should be the Paradigm for Press Conferences going forward. – Cold


      How could you possibly know? This is what you said up thread:
      “I watched a little tiny bit of Trump’s first Press Conference…”

      Additionally, you said:
      “It was disturbing watching that Press Conference for the little bit of time I did.”

      The fact is, Cold, you were glued to your TV the entire time – being the political junkie you are – but you don’t want to admit to giving a person as crass as Trump the time of day much less your undivided attention.

      I, on the other hand, am the genuine article. I did not watch the debates. I did not vote AT ALL, not even for a third party candidate or a write in. And today, as every day excluding weekends, I was tuned to CNBC to monitor the stock market. They showed the Tillerson grilling and the Trump press conference but I had it muted. What I know comes from reading the CNBC blurbs and my own unconscious lip reading… which I have become pretty good at since my hearing impairment has been growing worse for 30 years.

      BTW, I differ with your contention that Trump’s and Mussolini’s mannerisms are similar. They both were/are incorrigible narcissists but with entirely different mannerisms.

  99. FincaInTheMountains January 11, 2017 at 11:32 pm #

    I agree Finca, Trump’s Press Conference was superb. == Cold

    After that Cold’s post the site went down for 3 hours due to DDOS attack.

    Somehow I doubt it was Russians.

    • Q. Shtik January 11, 2017 at 11:48 pm #

      After that Cold’s post the site went down for 3 hours due to DDOS attack. – Finc


      I wondered about that…… thought maybe it was just MY computer.

  100. Q. Shtik January 11, 2017 at 11:45 pm #

    Among the many reasons I’m not an Obama fan is the way he talks, and I don’t mean any slight black accent he may have. – sprawl


    I, too, have noted this same foible of speech for the past 8 years…… but the slight black accent is totally affected to establish black cred in the hood’. BO is culturally no blacker than I am.

  101. Q. Shtik January 11, 2017 at 11:59 pm #

    Bitches are scared shitlessly… – Finca


    To be fair, I guess it is understandable that a person whose first language is not American English would not understand that the expression is ‘scared shitless.’

  102. FincaInTheMountains January 12, 2017 at 4:49 am #

    “Intelligence” community kisses Trump shoe


    American intelligence agencies trying to distance themselves from the scandal about “Moscow report”, prostitutes and “gold showers”. They did not examine the accuracy of the “informational report”. Moreover, Clapper said that he agreed with Trump over the fact that the document leaked to the press had a negative impact on US national security.

    Translated into English, “This pile of shit is not mine, Mr. President; do not beat me on the head with your shoes”.

    Clapper emphasized that he was “upset” about the leak to the press.

    The head of the US intelligence community believes that the leak occurred from one of the US intelligence agencies.

    Translated into English, “It’s not me, Mr.President, it is McCain and his amateur fuckers, he’s old and doesn’t care, but I still want to live.”

    Trump has expressed respect for the intelligence community; Clapper assured him that the intelligence community is ready to “serve the new administration.”

    Translated into English, “Who’s talking about the president’s illegitimacy? We publicly swear the allegiance to the new administration!”

    • FincaInTheMountains January 12, 2017 at 4:54 am #

      Bitches are scared shitlessly… – Q. Shtik

      Mr.Q right, as always!

    • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 11:18 am #

      ““Intelligence” community kisses Trump shoe”

      Again with the shoes!

      I know that there are major cultural differences between the Russian People and the Americans…however, when offering an object of obeisance, the shoe, in our culture, is the last thing suggested to be kissed….

  103. barbisbest January 12, 2017 at 5:13 am #

    During the campaign, Donald Trump asserted that Ted Cruz was controlled by Goldman Sachs. He also assured us He was not. Since the election, Trump has appointed Five (5) persons to his administration. Is this talking out of both sides of your mouth. Yes, many Were sucker punched. JHK was right. Stockman should be president in order to save a nation headed to ruin. Former counsel in the White House has stated Trump is more Nixonian than Nixon, that the similarities are striking. Congratulations america. A clown for a fourth turning.

    • Frankiti January 12, 2017 at 5:43 am #

      Hey dummy, Stockman was not a former white house counsel.
      After being ushered out of the OMB he went into the private sector… companies went bankrupt, investment funds too, he was brought up on charges… any more bright ideas?

      But it’s America, everyone has a second act.

  104. barbisbest January 12, 2017 at 5:16 am #

    Trump appointed 5 persons from Goldman Sachs to his administration, I meant to say. Not controlled by Goldman Sachs Donald Trump?

    • FincaInTheMountains January 12, 2017 at 6:32 am #

      Goldman Sachs = British City of London interests watchman – so the Americans shell out the Crown’s share of money printing operation.

      Long live The Queen!

    • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 8:13 pm #

      You’re completely right. I, for one, am heartbroken.

  105. Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 6:34 am #

    Q. Shtik said: The fact is, Cold, you were glued to your TV the entire time….

    You’re as terrible as America’s “Intelligence Community” when it comes to analysis. You’re wrong, I assure you. Ask yourself, why would I lie about something like this? I only watched a tiny bit of it live and then later I saw bits and pieces of it that were replayed on the Cable News Networks. That was enough to fill in the gaps that painted the entire picture.

    What’s next, Q. Shtik? Are you going to tell me I like to watch prostitutes in Moscow giving each other Golden Showers as Michelle Obama, on the Telly in the background, is the Late Night guest star with Jimmy Fallon?

    Think, Q. Shtik, think. For once. This is why you were never a CPA, not that CPA’s are any better at thinking, or at least not thinking outside the box unless it involves criminal activity such as Cooking the Books.

  106. barbisbest January 12, 2017 at 6:38 am #

    Freakiti- I never wrote Stockman was a former White House counsel. Doesn’t matter what you write, Stockman outlines good ideas for the nation’s salvation. On a side note, talk about trolls… They’re taking over the district.

    • Frankiti January 12, 2017 at 9:09 am #

      Barb, why are you not posting as Janet or WPA today you f****ng clown?

  107. Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 6:40 am #

    Q. Shtik said: BTW, I differ with your contention that Trump’s and Mussolini’s mannerisms are similar. They both were/are incorrigible narcissists but with entirely different mannerisms.

    Mussolini, like Hitler, was prone to absurdly exaggerated bodily & facial gesticulations & contortions just as Trump is. In fact, when it came to facial contortions, no one could match Mussolini, not even Hitler. Trump matches Mussolini, but yes, I agree, when you study it closely, Trump’s specific gesticulations are unique. Stalin, on the other hand, was Deadpan.

  108. barbisbest January 12, 2017 at 6:44 am #

    BTW Trump is the founder of fake news. example: Obama wasn’t born in this country…I have people looking into it right now. He’s the founder. Friendship D.B. wherever you are.

    • FincaInTheMountains January 12, 2017 at 6:49 am #

      BTW Trump is the founder of fake news. example: Obama wasn’t born in this country

      No, he ain’t! Most “conspiracy theories” of late are coming from Hillary’s HQ – including 911 “truthers”.

      She just made an offer to Trump he couldn’t refuse at the time.

    • Billy Hill January 12, 2017 at 7:52 am #

      If Obama’s academic records are ever unsealed we will know whether or not he applied as a foreign student. And it is not inconceivable that he would have lied about being a foreign student in order to gain some entrance requirement advantage. Some believe he had deep state assistance along the way — sort of like the underwear bomber who was ushered through airport ticketing/security without a passport (anyone for a trip down memory lane?).

      Bottom line is who knows? A relative, who has retired from the deep state, once told me “those who know don’t talk, and those who talk don’t know.”

      • FincaInTheMountains January 12, 2017 at 9:15 am #

        What the f*k are you talking about? Obama is a grandson of President Kennedy. His father – JFK son, was brought to US under some African student-exchange program in late 50s.

        Obama is 100% US citizen and even more – a member of American Royal Family.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 12, 2017 at 9:19 am #

        Here, take a look at that:


        Whose grandson became the President of the United States on January 20, 2009?

        • Billy Hill January 12, 2017 at 11:58 am #

          I understand that the various intelligence services rely on the CFN comment section for corroboration.

          Pity that Trump was not briefed before he waded into the birther pool, but that’s irrelevant now.

          As always Finc, where would we be without your guiding light?

      • FincaInTheMountains January 12, 2017 at 9:26 am #

        You see, Russia and US been partners-competitors for a such long time, there are practically no secrets from each other.

        We’re like a big happy family.

        We know have you been to the Moon or not, we know who your Presidents really are, we know what Hillary was really up to.

  109. Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 6:47 am #

    Janos said: “Wikileaks has been right on everything for the last ten years.” Is this true? An extraordinary statement from Sean, and even more extraordinary if true.

    I agree with what Trump first said about Hackers several years ago. Unlike Trump, I’m consistent, and if I change my mind, I tell you why I did. Hackers deserve the highest criminal penalty the System affords, and in America, the highest penalty is execution, so, Hackers should be executed. I think it’s that serious. There are no GOOD Hackers. It’s something that will always, and I mean always, be used for malevolent purposes.

    That includes Hackers in the employ of the American “Intelligence Community” and Hackers, under the guise of Cyber Security firms, contracted by the American “Intelligence Community.”

    If I were POTUS, rather than my first order of business being the repeal of the ACA, I’d go about the business of rounding up all the Hackers and prosecuting them.

    • FincaInTheMountains January 12, 2017 at 6:54 am #

      Hackers should be executed

      Be careful what you wish for! If that would be done, the entire Microsoft would be de-populated.

      Where the next lousy update to the Skype or IE would come from?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 2:24 pm #

      Hackers are the only thing that makes any kind of legitimate media possible now. And we need a legitimate media – it’s the nervous system of the social body. Thus your belief is simply crazy. Who do you think is making the battle against the evil system you rail against possible?

      • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

        You’re all for it until you’re not, and then you forget, like Trump, that you were once for it because now it’s been turned against you. It will be turned against the Conservatives and the faux Alt-Right, of which you are part, I assure you and then you’ll look like fools once again, but, it’s no matter. Fools don’t care that they’re fools, thus they are fools in perpetuity. Keep on keepin’ on, you fool.

  110. barbisbest January 12, 2017 at 6:47 am #

    Cold n.Holefield … A Montessori school. I knew you were alright.

  111. Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 7:08 am #

    Hey barb, she started her first class in her new school this past Monday. She has five students so far and they are all refugees and the sweetest kids you will ever meet. The only boy in the class, an adorable little three-year-old from Syria, told her yesterday he loves her and he loves Walmart but he doesn’t like tornadoes.

    I love & relish her stories about the children. Every day she comes home with a new story. Children are simply amazing. What this System of Civilization does to them, what it turns them into, is beyond tragic. Look at Q. Shtik. He was once one of these adorable children and look at him now. He’s been turned into a fucking loathsome deplorable Monster. It’s tragic and depressing to see such amazing potential eviscerated by a System that seeks to destroy all life on Planet Earth.

    That being said, I’m very nervous for her and the children because I suspect The Colonel, or operatives within the American “Intelligence Community,” have no qualms about gunning her and her class of refugee children down in cold blood and then pinning it on some loon, or programming some loon to do it. I think they are that evil. Just last week, she found two cops lurking about so she confronted them and they said the alarm had gone off. She had all the doors locked so she wasn’t sure how they got in. As it turns out, the back stairwell door wasn’t locked and that’s how they made it up to her floor. I took it as a signal from the “Intelligence Community” that they could annihilate her and her class at any time, and that’s why I’m speaking out about it. If, God forbid, something like that ever happened, WE know who/what is responsible.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 2:27 pm #

      Refugees? They belong in Arab Countries. Would she be willing to relocate there as Mr Trump has indicated for the refugees?

      • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 4:06 pm #

        Watch your step, son.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 8:11 pm #

          How does Montessori differ than Waldorf?

  112. Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 7:12 am #

    I bet the RNC kept their Secrets safe, as compared to the DNC, because they are running Kaspersky. I wonder of Alex Jones & Infowars runs Kaspersky? I bet they do.

  113. barbisbest January 12, 2017 at 7:13 am #

    Thanks for sharing Cold. Beautiful. Hang in there!!! I stand in solidarity. Hang in there! You’re right, children rock.so do you.

    • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 9:24 am #

      Thanks, barb. We’re The Few. I also stand in solidarity with any Good Faith individual who is threatened and harassed by the Deep State or threatened & harassed by anyone for that matter. Even K-Dog despite the fact he doesn’t reciprocate and instead calls me Hole and provides apologia and cover for The Colonel. It’s alright though, I’m accustomed to going it alone. When you stand up to Power and speak Truth to it, and I mean REAl TRUTH to it, you’re a very lonely person. Friends aren’t real friends if you and they can’t can’t be honest with one another.

    • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 11:24 am #

      My God, Barb,

      …You get a kidney!

      And YOU get a kidney

      …Everybody gets a kidney,,,,

  114. FincaInTheMountains January 12, 2017 at 7:15 am #

    You say Sukhov? We shall see now what kind of Sukhov he is!


    You say Rex Tillerson? We shall see now what kind of Tillerson he is! Obama, come in!


  115. Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 7:26 am #

    K-Dog is referring to me as Hole. How imaginative, K-Dog. It’s a dead giveaway. It’s also very telling that you’re an apologist for The Colonel since The Colonel represents the intersection between the faux Alt-Right and the faux Alt-Left.

    I have never seen the name K-Dog posting commentary at Moon of Alabama blog, yet K-Dog is very outspoken at this blog. What an odd contradiction, unless, of course, K-Dog is posting as someone else at Moon of Alabama blog and as someone else, or many elses, at various blogs. There is another creature here who refers to me as Hole — that being the nasty rapist, nsa. He/it refers to me as Hole as well because that’s all a rapist ever sees in anyone — a Hole that needs to be violently filled.

    • malthuss January 12, 2017 at 9:58 am #

      Bla bla bla.

    • K-Dog January 12, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

      I have been posting here on and off for over ten years. I have no desire to post at MoA and only post consistently in one other place besides here. Quite a while ago I made a conscious decision not to be sucked into the MoA maelstrom as a commenter. I already said I don’t go to MoA much and the only reason we are talking about MoA this week is because that site is listed as a fake news website. in the propornot list.

      There are two people who post here who are not anonymous. One is James Howard Kunstler and the other is myself. If you go to my own web page which you can get to by simply clicking K-Dog at the top of any my comments my Web Page Made by Hand will load.

      Go to the bottom of my page and in the footer you will see my real name. A bit of goggling will confirm that this dog is impersonating a real person with a real name who will get you a real cup of coffee if you come to my front door. I make my identity a bit hard to see because I am not trying to advertise myself or hide my identity. I take the middle way.

      When I do post I always post as K-Dog or if a site does not allow avatars, my real name.

      That is how I roll.

      Does Hole ever apologize? We shall see. I suspect he may have trouble with that concept so I’ll help. He can just copy this:

      I’m sorry I tried to confuse things and imply that you were a troll K-Dog. Some of the stuff you post is kind of ‘out there’ so I had to wonder if you were real or not. The kind of stuff you post is either genuine or it is a complete fabrication. Now that I see you are a real person I am very sorry and I realize that the stuff you post you are willing to defend no matter how far down the rabbit hole we need to go so it is your genuine experience. You are a real person and not simply a troll of an avatar who can disappear at whim so again; let me repeat, I am sorry and have a nice day.

      Your Friend,
      Cold N. Hole

      Being a commenter is a commitment. I am forever having to come here to see if I have been disrespected after I make any initial weekly comment so I can respond like I am right now. If I am going to be spending half my waking hours managing comments as troll bait I want to get paid for it like some of the rest of you do.

      As far as being an ‘apologist’ goes that’s not true. The colonel is a modern day Pinkerton who C. Hole would not even know about unless he went to the ‘apologists’ (my own) website. My suggestion to spit on the graves of those who employ him I make because it is common for people to target a proxy enemy and not a genuine enemy.

      If ‘Cold’ does not like being called ‘Hole’ he needs a different avatar.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 12, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

        K-Dog: “There are two people who post here who are not anonymous. One is James Howard Kunstler and the other is myself.”



      • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 2:52 pm #

        Is Mr Kunstler any relation to the famous radical lawyer, William Kunstler?

        • malthuss January 12, 2017 at 2:54 pm #

          ask him.

  116. nsa January 12, 2017 at 9:40 am #

    Have you no decency, K-Dog? Using demeaning nicknames like Hole gratuitously is very disrespectful so please observe the rules of commenting etiquette and only use the full name for the resident potty mouth leftie nitwit….Corn N. Hole.

    • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 9:59 am #

      Hey nsa, it’s time for The Colonel’s hourly Blow Job & Rim Job, so you best get to it, Boody Boy. The Colonel referred to me as a “Leftie” too. I wonder how many “gooks” The Colonel raped and had raped in his day in addition to all the “troublemaker” troops he had fragged? Quite a few, I’m sure, and now he’s a very rich man for it.

      • malthuss January 12, 2017 at 10:25 am #

        No wonder I skip most of yr posts.

        • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 1:18 pm #

          Most? Please, skip them ALL. They’re not meant for Mantal Midgets like yourself. Contrarily, I suggest you make sure to read all of Finca posts, and most especially, make sure you click on and read Finca’s most informative links. It’s more your speed.

          • malthuss January 12, 2017 at 2:53 pm #

            You dont like him. Gosh.
            He must be doing some things right.

          • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

            I love Finca. You know why? Because he makes you & your ilk out to be bigger fools than you already are — something I thought was heretofore impossible. I’m stunned your mother made it to full term with you without involuntary abortion. With a mistake like you, a woman will most always miscarry, but somehow, in your case. nature screwed up and we’ve had to deal with the mistake that is you ever since.

        • Q. Shtik January 12, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

          No wonder I skip most of yr posts. – Malthuss to Cold


          Malth, when you claim that you skip (or scroll over) all or most of someone’s posts, what it actually means is that you read EVERY FREAKIN’ WORD that person writes but you dislike that person both personally and ideologically.

          The same goes for Cold N. when he claims he only watched a teensy weensy little bit of the Trump press conference yet opines in detail about the wonders of that press conference.

          All the rest of us understand that the opposite is true……. viz.
          1. Malth reads every word that Cold writes and
          2. Cold watches everything happening politically anywhere on earth because that provides the grist for his writing penchant. It is the reason why he gave up gainful employment as a CPA….. because even HE could not serve two masters.

          We wish Cold’s wife well in her endeavor to start a string of Montessori schools since the Holefield family still needs to eat.

          • Q. Shtik January 12, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

            With a mistake like you, a woman will most always miscarry, but somehow, in your case. nature screwed up and we’ve had to deal with the mistake that is you ever since. – a nasty put-down of Malthuss by Cold (from just above).


            Back in the day we used a similar put-down:

            “The best part of you ran down your mother’s leg.”

          • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 3:41 pm #

            Q. Shtik, I will allow you your indulgence to believe what you want to believe, but that doesn’t make it fact. I believe malthuss when he says he skips my posts, and I’m glad he does. I don’t comment for him, obviously. Just because you read everything I post doesn’t mean everyone does. Quit projecting your peculiarity onto everyone as though it’s a normal or common trait that everyone shares. You’re not nearly as normal & common as you think, although you are in many respects.

            So, once again I’ll state it for the record, I didn’t watch Trump’s entire Press Conference. Not even close, and I don’t watch as much “politics” or “news” as you think. I watch a little and I take that little and run with it. If I watched too much, it would be overwhelming because all I need is a little. Open your mind, Q. Shtik. Get out of the box. You have the potential still even though your days are severely numbered. If you like Six Feet Under, you have the capacity to break your chains. Do it, Man, before you take your last breath. It will be your last accomplishment and you will have ascended Maslow’s Hierarchy entirely.

  117. malthuss January 12, 2017 at 10:24 am #

    Obama wont grant an Infant constitutional rights [above mah pay grade], meanwhile in Europe,


    What is the purpose of such legislation? Trans humanism?

  118. BackRowHeckler January 12, 2017 at 12:32 pm #

    Hey Pequist you got it right Twain and Conrad indeed banned — from some CT publics schools at least. At Ivy League Penn students in the English Dept. have issued a ‘Demand’ Shakespeare be removed from the cirruculum — too white. At U of London they are issuing demands too: eliminate Kant, Neitzche, Descartes and Bertram Russell, Ezra Pound, Johnson, Mallory, Plato, Socrates, Levy … anybody who was white up to about the time of Malcolm X.

    You can leave in Karl Marx.


    • malthuss January 12, 2017 at 2:51 pm #


      What do you expect from Leftist Jews?

  119. volodya January 12, 2017 at 12:35 pm #


    Of course you’re right. Remember early on that black Americans were suspicious of Obama for that very reason. His roots aren’t in Black America, as a descendant of slaves. He doesn’t have an American Slave-Jim Crow heritage.

    • K-Dog January 12, 2017 at 1:21 pm #

      Ain’t that the truth! His father was never even a citizen. He was a Kenyan African student visiting America who scored some white pussy while he was here and then he went back to Africa after learning his four ‘F’s. Find-em,feed-em, fuck-em, and forget-em. I suspect he skipped the feed-em part.

      And that is an unvarnished truth that needed a lot of varnish before it could shine bright. If Quo-Bama’s grandparents had not been rich he would have soaked in some of that American Slave-Jim Crow heritage by osmosis, but that was not to be.

      Instead, being the grandson of Madelyn Dunham who became one of the Bank of Hawaii’s first female vice presidents Wall Street boys discovered Quo-Bama years before anyone else heard of him and then they groomed him to be their boy in the White House.

      It should not have been a shock to realize that Hopey-Change turned out to be an incrementalist elitist who would resist any real change and dedicate himself to maintaining existing class structure at all cost. But since a sucker is born every minute some people were still shocked when he turned out to be what he really was.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

        Yet he has not an iota of gratitude for the Whites who treated him so well. Put your mind at rest, Kdog – he is for White Genocide just like Bill Ayers. Bill wouldn’t associate with him otherwise. He has carried out his mission of chaos as per Cloward and Piven. He deserves your respect.

      • malthuss January 12, 2017 at 2:48 pm #

        Best post of yours!!!!

  120. volodya January 12, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

    Thwack, if you want to know what I meant, just read what I wrote. It’s perfectly straight forward. Not a word in my post about heroin dealers or black armed robbers.

  121. volodya January 12, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

    Cold, re your comment about getting your head burst open like a watermelon: it’s been done, twice in my own lifetime, once to a president, once to his brother.

    Also, disbandment would be easier said that done. Such power structures are there because powerful actors in society benefit from their presence. Suffice to say that such assets as intel agencies have been appropriated for the use of a slim segment of the food chain for their own protection. Protection from who (whom?). The great unwashed, meaning people like you and me, that’s who. The active presence and interference of government employed trolls on this site is testament to that.

    People say that the pen is mightier than the sword but, in the end, if it was a confrontation between someone with a pen and someone with a sword, I put my money on the guy with the sword. Men with pens are only any good if they have guys with swords behind them.

    • pequiste January 12, 2017 at 1:49 pm #

      Esteemed Japanese philosopher posits “Bunbu Itchi” translated as “Pen and sword in accord” as superior Way for warrior. Warrior gentlemen should strive for mastery of both instruments.

      See Miyamoto Musashi “Book of Five Rings”

      • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 2:36 pm #

        Quite so. The pen uses ink but leads to the spilling of blood. The sword writes with blood but leads to the spilling of ink. The are mind and body in effect.

        Thwack introduced a third, the penis. Perhaps we can construct a rock, paper, scissors relationship between them.

    • sprawlcapital January 12, 2017 at 1:49 pm #


      “Whom” is correct.
      From is a preposition.
      A preposition takes a pronoun in the objective case. (The object of the preposition.)
      Whom is the objective-case form. Who is the subjective.

      • Q. Shtik January 12, 2017 at 8:12 pm #

        Yeah, what he said.

    • K-Dog January 12, 2017 at 1:57 pm #

      And then only good if the men with swords don’t have men with guns behind them!

  122. Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

    K-Dick, you’re full of fucking shit and you are a liar. I will ignore you from here until eternity. In my mind, you no longer exist. You are not someone I would ever enter into solidarity with. I don’t trust you. I think you’re a fraud and I don’t want your fucking poisoned coffee.

    As well, I clicked on your blog one time about four years ago and it was the last time. I will not give you my ip even though you probably have it any way.

    • K-Dog January 12, 2017 at 1:34 pm #

      “I will ignore you from here until eternity. In my mind, you no longer exist.”

      Can I take your word that you will ignore me from here to etirnity or are you just trying to get my hopes up?

      How did you know about the colonel if you did not go to my website in the last four years. Nobody but you mentioned him here at all. Did you have someone else go to my website for you?

      Sorry, never mind that, I forgot you are ignoring me. Too bad, you should have thought twice about that coffee. I am in Seattle and we have pretty high standards when it comes to coffee here. I only drink Arabica.

  123. volodya January 12, 2017 at 1:41 pm #

    K Dog, at the end of the day, what did we get from Obama?

    Wall Street deemed too big to jail, in-yer-face pay-to-play corruption, in-yer-fucking face criminal negligence by his secretary of state in handling government communications. The list goes on and on. And Democrats put on these airs of moral superiority. What a joke.

    • K-Dog January 12, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

      I don’t think the airs are of moral superiority. I think the airs are an expression of elitism. While the Democratic party remains the party of the people, it has redefined itself to be the party of rich people only. It all became about money years ago and party principles in both major parties were thrown under the bus of progress to be run over by money. The only principle the Democratic party retained was that it does not matter what color or sexual orientation you have, all that matters is that you are rich.

      Jane Fonda exemplifies the transition. She once was a socialist but then she dropped that act and became a workout guru in the 80’s for people who wanted to worship themselves. The ommmmmm of we became an ommmmmm of me.

      • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 11:34 am #

        Ahhh, Jane Fonda…why isn’t that woman in jail? I’ve had a bumper sticker since the late 70’s that offered…”I’ll forgive Jane Fonda when the Jews forgive Hitler”. In my (impending) dotage, however, I’ve softened. I can no longer agree with the slogan on the bumper sticker…because the Jews just MIGHT forgive Hitler, and I will never release my enmity for that turncoat bitch.

  124. Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 2:05 pm #

    volodya, people also say, “you live by the sword, you die by the sword.” Egypt was once a great Empire that lived and died by the sword. So too was Rome and Babylonia. As well, the Soviet Union lived and died by the sword. So long as you keep believing it, it will always be so.

    That being said, the pen’s been replaced with the keyboard, and no one typing out comments in this space needs to be bragging about swords and men with swords and betting on men with swords. If that’s the way you feel, go get your sword and make use of it. Don’t let it collect dust in the closet.

    • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 2:20 pm #

      Now the Jews, they’re smart & resilient. They’ve existed for the majority of their time as a “People” without a Nation to call their own, and they’ve managed to hang on and thrive ultimately without the Sword. The Orthodox Jews believe the creation of the State of Israel is the worst thing to happen to the Jews because it will ultimately lead to the destruction of Judaism. The Jews, or those who portend to speak for all Jews, are now living by the Sword and, as we know from History, as the saying goes, you live by the sword, you die by it.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

        Some Orthodox Jews feel that way. Others are fanatic supporters of the State of Israel and the Sword – the West Bank settlers are heavily Orthodox and heavily armed. Such people tend to be angry at the State for not doing enough or for giving the Arabs the Gaza Strip.

        The Jews have never endorsed Pacifism and are masters of getting others to fight and profiting from it. Look what they did to the Russian People once they got control of Russia. Think they would do less here if they manage to disarm us?

        • elysianfield January 12, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

          not doing enough or for giving the Arabs the Gaza Strip. ”

          Giving? How about “Returning” …?

    • capt spaulding January 12, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

      This is the one area where I will disagree with you, Cold. The majority of what you read online is just posturing bullshit. For myself, if people feel that strongly about what they are talking about, they will back it up. I believe that back in the day when people wore swords they had to be willing to back up what they said with their lives. This is in direct contrast with what you run into online, when all you risk is disagreement, & nothing else. When I argue for a particular point, I am ready to back up what I say. I may not be right, but I will back up what I said. It seems to me that what is lacking here is the fact that people can say whatever they like with no fear of repercussions. Me, I am willing to live by the sword. What that means is that I truly believe in the things that I say. I am Captain Spaulding.

      • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

        The majority of everything is just posturing bullshit. It’s All Lies, remember? Online or Offline, it’s posturing either way. Toughs with their guns & swords are equally egregious posturers. It’s a disguise for inadequacy in other areas, so, it’s posturing. Calling them Warriors is also bullshit. They are no such thing. The majority of conflict these days involves the murder, and it is murder, of civilians who want no part of it. That’s not a Warrior, that’s a Thug and/or a Goon every bit as much as a Thug and/or a Goon from the Ghetto. Maybe once upon a time there was such a thing as a noble & dignified Warrior, but there is no chance for one to exist now. If someone claims to be, they are a posturing imposter and a cold-blooded, psychopathic murderer in disguise.

        • capt spaulding January 12, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

          With respect, Cold, I have a roomful of weaponry which I am well versed in. I do not seek confrontation, nor do I shrink from it. No, there is no place at present for a dignified warrior, but I don’t think I have claimed to be. I am a peaceful guy, but I don’t let people fuck with me, either. I don’t consider myself a Warrior.

          • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 3:31 pm #

            I wasn’t referring to you, so don’t take it personally. I have no weaponry, but it doesn’t mean I don’t stand by everything I express. Just because someone threatens to kill me doesn’t mean I’m going to shut up. If I pay homage to anyone, it’s to all those who have, in Good Faith & Conscience, expressed in the face of those who murdered them for it. There is no braver act. There are acts as brave, but no braver act.

          • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 11:37 am #

            “I have no weaponry”-Cold

            Get some….

        • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 3:27 pm #

          Except malthuss & nsa. Now there are two Warriors if ever there was one — or were two.

      • thwack January 12, 2017 at 3:38 pm #

        What that means is that I truly believe in the things that I say. I am Captain Spaulding.


        And thats what will cause someone to try to kill you for what you write or say; EVEN THOUGH you have not ACTED on what you wrote or said to make it a reality.

        The first person to run out of words has to switch to direct violence to compensate for their weakened state.

        This is why the penis mightier than the sword.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 4:06 pm #

          Whites have been weakened by the Pen into giving up their Sword and now we suffer from the Penis of alien men.

          The process can be reversed: other Pens can induce Whites to take up the Sword again and stop the degradation of our Women. During the interim process, White Women can do what they want of course. And of course we will respond by expelling them from the Community. Why should we support stupid women and their half breed brats – all because they want to take a walk on the wild side.

          • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 11:41 am #

            “half breed brats ”

            Was it Finc or Volodya that months ago posted…”nits become lice”?

          • Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 2:22 pm #

            That’s nsa I believe.

        • pequiste January 12, 2017 at 5:23 pm #

          Of course this belief that “the Penis mightier than the sword,” as you claim, has no bearing on the fact of sub-Saharan Africans being enslaved over the course of history by neighboring European, Near-East and Asian civilizations, would it Thwack?

          • thwack January 12, 2017 at 9:54 pm #

            Im not sure what you are asking me pequiste?

            But the point Im trying to make is that fecundity is important; the will and ability to produce life is at least equal or greater than the will and ability to destroy life.

            “sub-Saharan Africans” seem to have a certain vitality for reproduction, despite SLAVERY and what ever else abuse and mistreatment you throw at them?

            Indeed, they even produced white people if Im not mistaken?

            How mighty is that?

            *you’re welcome*

          • Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

            Gave birth to Whites? As if Australopithecus was Black? Or the first modern Human was? The first is a humorous absurdity. The second is unproven. Yes, the first modern humans probably had dark skin, but Black as in Negro? No evidence.

            Most evidence I’ve read indicates that Negroes are fairly recent – a new breed of Archaic Homo Sapiens, perhaps with some physical improvements, but the brain as stunted as ever.

            Homo Sapiens became truly Human outside of tropical Africa or perhaps outside of Africa all together.

  125. Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 3:05 pm #


    What did you expect to happen? What else can they do? Any Government or Ruling Class that seeks to replace its own people is illegitimate.

  126. pequiste January 12, 2017 at 3:51 pm #

    Mr. Q. posits that:

    “I, too, have noted this same foible of speech for the past 8 years…… but the slight black accent is totally affected to establish black cred in the hood’. BO is culturally no blacker than I am.”

    Please to notice Q., Barry O’s gait. He has a discernible variant I like to call the “hip-hop schuck.” It comes from listening to Ha?va?d University approved* urban (Negro) yuut noise and falls just short of the jive part. Nonetheless Barry never disappoints; his slick elocution is super-saturated will ceaseless jive.

    Just 8 more days…. 8 more days Muthafucka.

    • Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 4:04 pm #

      Now Trump’s gait — that’s something to behold. I bet he’s hell on shoes, or, strike that. With all his dough, he probably has a new pair every day.

      Imelda Marcos pales in comparison, I’m sure. In fact, the Trumps are kinda like America’s version of Ferdinand & Imelda Marcos. Filipino is the new American just as surely as Orange is the new Black. Weird, that. Obama is Black and Trump is Orange, so Orange really is the new Black. Yet another coincidence in a sea of them.

      • Q. Shtik January 12, 2017 at 8:39 pm #

        Now Trump’s gait — that’s something to behold. – Cold


        You are totally making shit up. There is nothing whatsoever remarkable about Trump’s gait. Effectively, he has no gait. With his extreme narcissism you would think he would have developed one but no, this element of his persona fell through a crack.

        • pequiste January 13, 2017 at 8:34 am #

          Not sure about his gait – it will require closer TV video clip examination. Now as a long-time Manhattanite, Donald J. Trump must walk rather briskly, maintain eyes straight ahead, and instinctively know when to cross a street (not at an intersection mind you) without becoming a hood ornament on some Mohammedan’s taxi.

          But have I no doubt, after all this time, that the President-elect practices the perfect limousine “being driven” posture and attitude. The acid-test will be his evolving “waving” technique and whether he can compete with the likes of Queen Elizabeth II ( most masterful, regal wave on Earth,) or Pope Frankie with his presque “divine” little combination ” cross-wave” gesticulation. Time will tell.

    • Q. Shtik January 12, 2017 at 5:14 pm #

      Please to notice Q., Barry O’s gait. He has a discernible variant I like to call the “hip-hop [schuck].” – peq


      Roger on Barry O’s gait. I’m not hip enough to have applied a name to it but I’ll defer to you and “hip-hop [shuck].”

      Obama, not actually being culturally African American but being genetically mulatto or half black had to have presented him with certain political dilemmas depending on his audience on any given occasion. His approach to a podium on MLK Jr Day would require a touch or more of black gait. Approaching the podium to address the United Nations required an entirely (non-African American) gait. The meaning of an African American gait would be lost on virtually all of the 190+ UN member nations’ diplomats.

      Of all our (white male) presidents from Truman through Bill Clinton there was never an issue of anyone making a political statement via ‘gait’. FDR, of course, had no gait due to polio. Beside Obama only George W. caused comment due to his occasional Texas swagger. Apparently the accusation of being “all hat but no cattle” could be squelched by an application of swagger and, in turn, Dubya said that in Texas a swagger was called ‘walking.’

      • pequiste January 12, 2017 at 5:31 pm #


        You could not be more correct about W’s “I just got off my horse from a 500 mile cattle drive” swagger. He must have practiced eons with it to have it available instantaneously, as neither Kennebunkport nor Miami have an analog (although Miami’s hippest have either a Salsa or Samba sort of sweep to their walking style) and Jeb is not numbered among the hippest in Coral Gables, only the best Deep State connected.

      • thwack January 12, 2017 at 11:11 pm #

        back in 2010 I remember reading some comments on a racist web site by some white guys who were annoyed because Obama trotted down the steps of Air force One without using the handrail.

        White people do a lot of great and vast things; but sometimes you guys are beyond ridiculous.

        No, wait a minute, strike that.

        If I was a racist, it would probably bother me too.

        • Q. Shtik January 13, 2017 at 12:11 am #

          If that was me descending the steps I’d be holding the right side hand rail with both hands…. seriously.

        • AKlein January 14, 2017 at 8:18 am #

          Trotting down the airplane stairs without holding on to the railing is just a sophomoric example of ignoble grandstanding. It shows a profound disregard for the importance of the position. A President has the responsibility to keep himself/herself healthy and avoid needless risk for the benefit of the entire nation. Grandstanding is a sign of a “lightweight” not an earnest leader who is in control of his own behavior. No, it’s not necessarily a “hanging offense”, but it certainly shouldn’t evoke glowing admiration from a populace that expects leadership, not grandstanding.

      • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 11:50 am #

        Obama assimilated…isn’t that all we require from immigrants or those of the Black Culture? Assimilation and civility is all we can ask for…or hope for. To parse his gait, or a lilt to his voice may be a topic of less than polite conversation, but if every black in this country copied his example, we would have no issue with race…just sayin’

        • Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

          Assimilated? Because he can play golf and speak coherently? He hated Whites who don’t hate themselves. He is a Revolutionary. Not assimilated. Most urbane Blacks are the same, identifying with the unassimilated mass and loathing the People who have given them a lifestyle far beyond anything they could ever create for themselves.

          • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

            What you say is the truth…but it is the core of civilized behavior to be amiable, or at least neutral, in social contact. I don’t care if they hate me, as long as they act civilized and keep their opinions to themselves. I have hated some of them (blacks) and would like to have killed more than one given the opportunity, but I never acted other than civil. We may not be able to control our thoughts of others, but we can control our actions.
            Malcom X may have hated the “white devil”, but, in his “enlightened” years, he was not out jacking cars, hanging out on street corners sucking on an “8” and eye-fucking every white guy who drove by.

            Civility is the most we can reasonably ask for.

  127. Cold N. Holefield January 12, 2017 at 3:55 pm #

    Q. Shtik said: How could you possibly know?

    Why must I always take you by the hand and lead you to the water, and still, you cannot and will not drink? My comment to Finca was OBVIOUS satire, you dunce. Watching Trump’s entire Press Conference, something I could not stomach, was not mandatory for the satirical comment. You’re either losing it or you never had it. If you’re losing it, I’m sorry to hear it. What a drag it is getting old. If you never had it, well, I can’t help you with that.

    • Q. Shtik January 12, 2017 at 5:33 pm #

      Watching Trump’s entire Press Conference, something I could not stomach, was not mandatory for the satirical comment. – Cold


      The satire is duly noted but nevertheless you’re still busted….. you watched every friggin’ minute of the press con. Who you tryin’ to shit?

      • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 8:20 am #

        I’ve never in all my born days heard a 74-year-old retired accountant use the word “friggin’.” Sometimes I wonder if you really are Ken, or if you’re using his identity in a Catfishing Scheme. I have Ken’s number. Maybe I’ll give it a call and see if you are indeed Ken. You don’t mind, do you? We don’t have to talk if it really is you.

        • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 11:52 am #

          “We don’t have to talk if it really is you.”

          Just a lot of moaning and heavy breathing?

          • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

            Are you reminiscing about how you & the boys spent your time with one another during your stint in the service? I think so. Don’t worry, I’m not asking & I won’t tell. It will be our little secret. FYI, I don’t think any less of you and thank you for being honest.

        • Q. Shtik January 13, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

          I’ve never in all my born days heard a 74-year-old retired accountant use the word “friggin’.” – Cold


          A few points here concerning your comment:

          1. I’m 76, not 74.

          2. ‘friggin’ is one of my favorite words as in “Who the hell left the friggin’ basement lights on all night dammit?!” (Despite a nice inheritance I am still very frugal.)

          3. I prefer the title ‘Financial Analyst’ or, secondarily, ‘Auditor.’ I never worked as an ‘Accountant,’ per se. I was good at counting and organizing beans and explaining to management in writing what it all meant.

          4. If you actually have my number by all means call. I’m usually sitting right here on my ass all day long unless I’m outside doing some yard work. (Yesterday I took down Christmas lights from my pyramid and elsewhere.)

          • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 12:48 pm #

            74 or 76, what’s the difference except 2 years? Either way, you’re well past your prime.

            If I watched Trump’s entire Press Conference, you’re a Retired Accountant.

            Funny about the basement lights. My son & daughter have been in the habit lately of leaving the kitchen light on all night and it drives me bonkers from a to z. I say something akin to what you say sans the friggin’.

            Christmas Lights on a Pyramid — now that’s what I would call Eclectic…..and rather gauche. But, that’s you.

            I might call if I get bored enough. We’ll see. If the phone rings, it may just be me. I was once an accountant too, so I understand the importance of verification.

          • malthuss January 13, 2017 at 2:55 pm #

            Cold—-74 or 76, what’s the difference except 2 years? Either way, you’re well past your prime.——

            How old is s/he?

  128. beantownbill. January 12, 2017 at 6:08 pm #

    I don’t know or care if we are being lied to. What is more relevant to me is that we are being distracted so we don’t have to think about truly important things. Politics is a great distraction – just look at where our attention has been focused for the last year as the great quadrennial spectacle has played itself out.

    Getting high is an American way of life, as is football and other professional sports; also include low-quality tv, inane social media and rampant consumerism – all distractions. Granted, we all need some distractions from the emotional, physical and financial hardships of daily life, but doesn’t it seem that the whole thing is overdone?

    Where is there time and energy left for acting on real issues like overpopulation, peak everything and environmental decay?

    It feels like we’re immersed in a gigantic cosmic computer simulation, that reality is something entirely different from what we imagine.

    We are being played. C’mon people, wake up and get out of the matrix!

    • Janos Skorenzy January 12, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

      Would you support a RICO action against the Clinton Machine and Anti-Trust legislation against the Media Monopolies? Other than hundreds of arrests some night in a kind of putsch, there can be no change for the better.

      We now know that Trump is strongly pro-Jewish and pro-Israel. Are the countless American Jews who slandered him going to be held to account and pressured to apologize? Explain your answer.

      • beantownbill. January 12, 2017 at 10:01 pm #

        Given that there are 6 million Jews in America, I would be very surprised if all of them were paragons of virtue – after all, they are only human. However, just like any group of people, most Jews are good. If 99% were good, that would leave 60,000 bad ones. Using the same percentage, there must be 3.2 million bad Americans.

        To answer your question, you are comparing apples to oranges in the sense that you are trying to equate politics with religion in the same equation. Regardless, the answer is yes to really investigating the Clintons, their people and their bribees and prosecuting them to the full extent of the law if it can be proven they did wrongdoing (even though we know what they did, it still has to be proven), regardless of their religious affiliation.

        • beantownbill. January 12, 2017 at 10:08 pm #

          And.no to apologizing for their anti-Trumpism. It is their right. When many Christian anti-Trumpers begin apologizing, come back to me and then ask the question. Don’t single out Jews.

          I’ll throw it back to you: if and when Trump messes up, will you apologize for supporting him?

          • Elrond Hubbard January 13, 2017 at 10:56 am #

            beantownbill. to Janos: “Don’t single out Jews.”

            You might as well ask Janos to breathe water. Bigots gonna bigot.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

          Jews are a People far more than they are a religion. You know that since you don’t believe or practice yet continue to call yourself a Jew. Now that we’ve put that canard to rest, the fact remains: American Jewry launched an extraordinary attack on Trump that is still continuing. Your bar is very high now: it’s not enough for a White to be pro-Jewish, he has to be anti-White.

          Are you sure this is a wise policy for the six million to take?

          • malthuss January 13, 2017 at 2:59 pm #

            What is with ‘6 million’???
            Is 6 sacred?

          • Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 4:30 pm #

            Yeah, anything to keep throwing this Kabbalistic number in our face.

            Not sure about the details of the Irish. They tested very low for Western Europe (93). It would be very interesting if that has come up. I assume the Irish American IQ is the normal Western European one, or close anyway.

    • capt spaulding January 13, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

      That’s a very perceptive post, Bill. It’s a pleasure to see that other people are aware of what’s going on, it gives me hope.

  129. Q. Shtik January 12, 2017 at 8:23 pm #

    then he went back to Africa after learning his four ‘F’s. Find-em,feed-em, fuck-em, and forget-em. – K-Dog


    Back in MY day the 4 Fs were Find-em, feel-em, fuck-em, and forget-em.

    • K-Dog January 12, 2017 at 11:00 pm #

      I stand corrected. You are right. It has been a long time since I was a 13 year old boy. I may have heard variations over the years.

  130. Q. Shtik January 13, 2017 at 12:06 am #

    Im aware of the difference Q.

    I was just trying to fit the word anus into his name. – thwack


    Ohhhhh, OK, now I get it. I can be pretty thick sometimes.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

      Q lowers himself before his Black superior. Nietzsche was right: Christian Culture became Slave Culture. And its bastard children, Liberalism, Capitalism, etc continue in this inner slavery.

  131. Q. Shtik January 13, 2017 at 12:43 am #

    Janos, your thoughts on Fred’s latest essay;


    • Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 2:38 pm #

      Interesting. Mexico and Latin America are easily explained: Whites and near Whites keep it all going to the extent it does go. Thus the Dominican Republic is in a far better state than Haiti which killed all its Whites and doesn’t like light skinned Blacks either.

      But the Irish IQ has gone up and Jewish IQ down? Maybe there is more to it if true. Epigenetics, or the effect of environment on gene expression, may be more powerful than previously imagined. Nothing can be done for those that don’t have it begin with though. Blacks will remain in the stygian darkness that is their nature and destiny.

      • malthuss January 13, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

        Some say the smart Irish left. And the low IQ ones remained.

        What is Irish American IQ?

  132. Q. Shtik January 13, 2017 at 12:45 am #

    Anybody see the bags/luggage/steamer trunks on Mad Dog Mattis during today’s grilling?

    • pequiste January 13, 2017 at 8:16 am #

      Yes, from the looks of him he definitely could use either some more sleep, a less nagging spouse, or possibly some Christle Brinkley’s eye cream:


      (Christie continues to be one of the world’s most beautiful women, but on 20 January, when we have a new First Lady, Melania Trump will take the title of the world’s most famous AND beautiful woman. “Beauty Boys” are on notice!)

      Getting back to General Mattis……I do not give a damn how that Marine looks, but he used the word “lethality” with an insouciance that leads me to trust he is not one to fuck around one bit when it comes to military matters – and in the “war business” that is all that counts.

      • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 9:01 am #

        Hell Yeah!! He has promised to honor the agreement Obama made with Iran and he said, and I quote, “if NATO didn’t exist, we’d have to invent it.” I will have a blog post up shortly entitled Call InventHelp dealing with this most revelatory statement.

        Per his testimony before the Nominating Committee, he believes Putin is trying to undermine NATO and he will not let that happen on his watch and he believes Putin is someone who needs to be taken to the woodshed.

        All of that is in complete defiance of Trump’s rhetoric and campaign promises. It’s going to be real interesting watching all of these contradictions shake out, yesireebob, you bet ya!!!

    • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 8:55 am #

      Nope, didn’t see it. I have no idea what you;re talking about.

  133. FincaInTheMountains January 13, 2017 at 6:36 am #

    All the time I’m thinking about the Cotton Club. Brilliant movie!

    After the “Dead Zone” it is now my favorite movie. And more and more I am coming to the conclusion that this film is not a history of a Cabaret in Harlem of the 20-x, but the brilliant foresight by Coppola of the seizure of power in the United States by Hillary Clinton, which we have been witnessing for the past six months. Up to Harlem, where she began her attack on the White House, and Moscow.

    Apparently, someone in The Commission (New York mafia) asked Coppola to make this film for its people in order to make them resistant to the Clinton propaganda, but for the benefit of the outside viewer it got a totally wacky ending in the spirit of a carnival.

    And in fact, here’s the real end of the movie, its catharsis in the spirit of Shakespeare’s tragedy that predicted in 1984 what we are seeing in the US today. If of course one does not shy away from quite obvious analogy between Hillary and Dutch Schultz, the more so that eventually she became like him superficially, especially the famous leaden gaze of the Dutchman.


    Judging from the description, Hillary’s eyes were exactly like that even back in the days when she was just a university beauty and part-time agent Deep Throat. And I think that Coppola knew her personally as the head of organized crime of Arkansas and filming this movie, was referring to her.

    The bullets that killed Dutch Schultz were made of silver.

  134. Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 7:58 am #

    thwack said: back in 2010 I remember reading some comments on a racist web site by some white guys who were annoyed because Obama trotted down the steps of Air force One without using the handrail.

    I didn’t see this, but I think Obama bounding down the steps without the use of a handrail is fucking awesome. I will give Obama credit where credit is due. He exudes an image of vitality. He’s fresh, witty, articulate, handsome and fit as a fiddle. He’s the Anti-Trump. He is, from the perspective of image at least, all things Trump isn’t. Obama could whip Trump in a race. He could whip his ass in basketball, but not golf or croquet. He could whip Trump in a boxing match dancing around him like Ali floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee. It amazes me the image White people have settled on as their answer to the Muslim Invader Obama. White people are so fucking dumb, aren’t they? What a bunch of doofuses. Seriously, people? Donald Trump? DONALD TRUMP? This is Janos’ answer? At least Hitler wasn’t a fat fucking slob with an orange entity atop his head that hasn’t yet been studied, identified and classified by the scientific community. If Trump is the last great White Hope, and I believe he is, White people are toast. Burnt toast. Done. Over. Throw the dirt on top and speak the spoken magic spells and be done with it.

    Seriously though, as if that wasn’t serious, wrap your head around the Dems running Decrepit Frail Hillary after the Vitality of Obama. They’re not stupid. They knew what the result would be. But they did it anyway. Why? They threw it. They stood by as this Slob stole the election that was handed to him. Why? The Simpleton’s response is that they are so blinded by their incompetence and corruption that they just couldn’t see it. Bullshit. They knew. And they let it happen. Trump is a set-up for something much larger. Just you wait and see.

    • FincaInTheMountains January 13, 2017 at 8:32 am #

      Obama’s Workout / Putin’s Workout


      • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 9:04 am #

        The BOTOX® disqualifies Putin from the competition, but there is no doubt in my mind Obama is a much better lover than Putin could ever hope to be — as if Putin would ever hope to be.

        • malthuss January 13, 2017 at 3:03 pm #

          Obama is a much better lover? Gay?

          • Cold N. Holefield January 14, 2017 at 9:30 am #

            If you’re asking whether or not you’re gay, I’d say more than likely you are and you’ve never come to grips with it. It’s alright if you are. Come out of the closet and free yourself from your torment.

    • thwack January 13, 2017 at 1:34 pm #

      The Simpleton’s response is that they are so blinded by their incompetence and corruption that they just couldn’t see it. Bullshit. They knew. And they let it happen.

      Hmmm…. Im not sure Cold?

      Methinks thou giveth them too much credit?

      For example,

      in the drug dealing game the 1st commandment is:

      “Don’t get high on your own supply.”

      Hillary, Obama, the media, academia, hollywood…. they were all smoking their own product.

      Couldn’t you tell?

      And don’t forget, the system made it so difficult to OPENLY support Trump, that many white people just lied so they could avoid being attacked/assaulted, slandered, dressed down, called on the carpet….

      but in the privacy of the voting booth…

    • Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 2:11 pm #

      Trump is in his 70’s – and amazed everyone with his vitality on the campaign trail. He has an extraordinary physique and could have snapped Obama in two in his youth and middle age. I agree that Black are often more graceful than Whites and Obama is no exception. Nature or nurture? A bit of both perhaps? They’re good at it naturally, therefore they focus on it culturally?

      In Bali, grace and economy of movement are valued. Parents stand behind their children, teaching them to only move their head and not their body to look at something – and only move their eyes not their head if they don’t have to. And the artist is not a special person but rather every person is a special kind of artist. Montessori is not needed there, but it is needed in the Arab world.

  135. Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 8:16 am #

    Q. Shtik said: Ohhhhh, OK, now I get it. I can be pretty thick sometimes.

    Sometimes? I can attest to the fact that you are thick ALL THE TIME. A permanent state of thickness, in fact. How thick are you? Why, you’re as thick as Putin’s ex-wife’s Cankles — and that’s pretty fucking thick.

  136. FincaInTheMountains January 13, 2017 at 8:49 am #

    Time to get rid of the myth that Trump is a lone hero, and that he’ll be eaten tomorrow with new Watergate, impeachment, or the use of the 25 Amendment.

    Trump – a phenomenon created by people who have a lot of money, a lot of influence, a lot of experience and whose hands are up to shoulders in blood.

    By contrast, just imagine what Trump can put on the other plate of the scales after the inauguration. Starting from the Clinton “ServerGate” and ending with the opening of investigation into procurement by ISIS of US weapons paid for by US taxpayers.

    • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 9:05 am #

      Best post of yours!!!!

    • ozone January 13, 2017 at 10:07 am #

      “… just imagine what Trump can put on the other plate of the scales after the inauguration. Starting from the Clinton “ServerGate” and ending with the opening of investigation into procurement by ISIS of US weapons paid for by US taxpayers.”

      This is probably one of the most critically thought out couple of sentences you’ve ever posted here.
      IF Trump can can keep his big mouth shut; hold his cards close to his vest; OR lie like hell, he’ll have a jolly old time prosecuting a bunch of entrenched govt. assholes to the fullest extent of Duh Law.

      …Further, this is why the press is so adamant about “leading the witness” in trying to get him to make statements that will paint him into a corner, and be used later as a cudgel. (This clip is pretty funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHol4–tC3s)

      In other words, keeping his own council would be his best strategy for the time being. (It’s going to be interesting to see if he can/will do it.)

  137. Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 9:19 am #

    I have stock in this company. They’re selling like Hot Cakes. Putin could use one. Maybe I’ll send him one as a token of appreciation for delivering us his Quisling. He’s given SNL, if we’re lucky, another eight years of material. Otherwise, that franchise may have closed its doors for good.

    Chia Trump/A>

    • FincaInTheMountains January 13, 2017 at 9:28 am #


      … a common joke in Russian political discourse, referring to the empirical rule of the state leaders’ succession defined as a change of a bald leader with a hairy one and vice versa


      • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 9:36 am #

        I’d like to see Trump & Putin smooch like the Soviet Leaders of yore. It would be a Fig Leaf to the LGBT Community and The Rainbow Coalition.

        Man Love At Its Finest

        • FincaInTheMountains January 13, 2017 at 9:46 am #

          Triple kisses. During Easter, it is customary for Russians to greet each other with three kisses – one on each cheek, and one extra – and say the words “Khristos Voskres” (??????? ???????) which means Christ is Risen. The reply is “Voistinu Voskres” (???????? ???????) – Truly Risen. The tradition of kissing three times is thought to be symbolic of the Holy trinity and in the 17th century followed a specific tradition of first kissing the icon of Jesus and Mother Mary, then kissing the priest and then embracing your friends and family. Beyond Christian meaning, the three kisses also symbolize belief, hope and love.

          • FincaInTheMountains January 13, 2017 at 9:49 am #

            Multiple question marks are non-printable on this website Cyrillics.

  138. FincaInTheMountains January 13, 2017 at 9:41 am #

    Cool project:

    High-speed rail connecting all Metropolitan centers of EurAsia:


  139. Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 10:23 am #

    The Senate voted against keeping the Preexisting Condition clause of the Affordable Care Act in repealing it in defiance of Trump’s promise. It was one of the positive features of that legislation and they voted against it. The people who voted for Trump are so fucking screwed, including my brother-in-law who is battling Multiple Myeloma and his medical expenses are staggering. It’s not just people who were subsidized under the Affordable Care Act who are going to be without insurance, it’s everyone with a preexisting condition, and if you think about it, and consider how unhealthy most Americans are, who the fuck doesn’t have a preexisting condition these days?

  140. bibliomaniac January 13, 2017 at 11:55 am #

    “Russia is not the issue. Reaction is the issue. Russia didn’t give us Trump, but Russia is tied up with Trump, and Trump is going to give us hell. If you think he is no worse the Hillary, you haven’t been paying attention.

    Trump’s victory here is owed first and foremost to the Republican Party and its sponsors, to all the usual suspects we have been observing with revulsion for decades. In the context of domestic US foreign politics, Putin is not the dog; he’s the tail.” –Max B. Sawicky

    • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 12:08 pm #

      If we didn’t have Russia, we’d have to invent it. ~ Retired General Cold N. Holefield

    • FincaInTheMountains January 13, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

      If you think he is no worse the Hillary, you haven’t been paying attention.

      I’m afraid that it’s you who haven’t been paying attention. If Hillary’d won, we’d be dead now.

  141. Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 12:32 pm #

    elysianfields said: Get some….

    What’s the point, ef? If things get that bad, it’s not an existence worth living. We have a Youth-In-Asia Plan in place in case that time ever comes.

    I’m thinking The Road or something akin to it. No thank you. It’s not a life worth fighting & murdering for.

    • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 12:48 pm #

      With all respect, it is your responsibility to defend yourself and the lives of your family…there does not have to be a “zombie apocalypse” scenario, just mindless thugs intent upon preying on you and your well-being…and trust me, those thugs exist in great number.

      The police would love to help you during a home-invasion, however, a 15+ minute response time begs a more proactive approach on your part.

      One does not need an arsenal, a brace of black guns, etc. to feel adequate to the task…a pump shotgun, or 6 shot revolver is quite sufficient.

      • Cold N. Holefield January 13, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

        I know. I said that somewhat with tongue in cheek. I’m strongly considering it. I’m certainly much closer to pulling the trigger (pun intended) than I was ten years ago. My daughter recently was shooting with her boyfriend and his family and she reported she was a natural shot and in fact hit more targets than any of them. They were thoroughly impressed and so am I. I gave birth to a contemporary Annie Oakley. She’s a tough gal. She’s beautiful, but she’s also tough as nails. I raised her to not take any shit from anyone, especially men. The problem with that is, she gives me hell, but I wouldn’t have it any other way.

        • thwack January 13, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

          don’t forget to remind her that the penis mightier than the sword.

  142. elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

    Q has asked Janos to respond to Fred’s blog regarding IQ testing/effects/validity. Permit me;

    I was always under the impression that IQ measurement was an attempt to measure an individual’s ability to learn. This narrow construct, when applied, may have some cause and effect validity.

    Asian “tiger mothers” value education, and their culture prizes knowledge…the Asians, reputedly score high on the tests. The same applies to all Asian and East Asian countries…India included.

    Black American culture does not necessarily value education, for various reasons, and American Blacks measure very low on the relative scale.

    We have all known people, of varied races, who we considered “slow”, or unable to learn, and also those we might have considered a peer, or even superior.

    I believe that the ability to learn is, indeed, genetic in part, but has not yet been effectively quantified and testing ill designed…and there is no doubt in my mind that culture is significant in the development, as an exterior variable, the ability to learn.

    • malthuss January 13, 2017 at 2:52 pm #

      See ‘The Bell Curve’ and then decide.
      I look at a nation or a culture and decide what the IQ [average] might be of the race that built that land.
      And all asian countries do not score high on IQ tests.
      All Black nations do score low.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 13, 2017 at 4:22 pm #

        Ugh. Alfred Binet wept…

        Presumably you know who Alfred Binet was? He did the original work that became the IQ test as we know it. His goal was to identify kids who were significantly lower in performance, so that teachers could work with them to do better.

        In other words, the goal was to help kids succeed. But his work has long been misused as an ideological weapon against them, and against disfavoured populations generally. Cut it out.

        • elysianfield January 13, 2017 at 5:42 pm #


          So, how is it used as a weapon against under-performing populations?

          • Elrond Hubbard January 13, 2017 at 11:50 pm #

            Not under-performing populations. Disfavoured populations. You could hardly ask for a better example than what malthuss wrote above: he goes about trying to fit numbers into a picture he already thinks he understands.

            The line of specious reasoning goes like this:

            1. Start out with the idea already in mind that there are differences between populations.

            2. Then go looking for examples of differences among those populations, using IQ or whatever measure you like.

            3. When you see something that seems like a difference between populations, attribute it to essential or intrinsic properties of the respective populations.

            Step 1 is a fundamental error. The scientifically valid approach is to assume the null hypothesis, i.e. that there is no difference among populations. Then you collect data and test it to see if it contradicts the null hypothesis to a high degree of confidence. If it does, that’s how you know you’re on to something and not just chasing figments of your imagination. That’s basic science, as applicable to quantum physics as to human beings.

            If the data do tell you there’s a difference, step 3 is another error. There are all kinds of reasons why things are the way they are, so you need to investigate further. Aristotle said that objects fall because they tend to move toward their natural place. This non-explanation held sway for 2,000 years until Galileo actually did measurements and noticed that things really don’t work the way Aristotle said. This simple maneuver led to the further insights of Newton and Einstein and changed the world forever. That’s the power of actually doing science.

            False reasoning like steps 1-3 above has real-world consequences. Take the people of Flint, Michigan for example. If I follow the steps above, I might end up concluding they are just generally stupider and congratulate myself for my insight. If I use actual science, on the other hand, I have to find an explanation for the difference, which means I just might find out that lead in the drinking water is causing enormous harm. Then I can do something about it. I’d call some of the bigoted comments people make about Flint and other situations on this blog a pretty clear example of false reasoning being “used as a weapon against under-performing populations”.

    • thwack January 13, 2017 at 5:42 pm #

      Black American culture does not necessarily value education,


      “Education” in order to do what?

  143. Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 2:41 pm #


    Another swamp that need to be drained. These secret Agencies have gotten to big for their britches. The bitches need to be taken down a few notches. They are not the Government of the United States and they answer to elected officials, not vice versa.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 13, 2017 at 4:30 pm #

      “Elected officials” — Janos of all people appealing to democratic authority? *Bronx cheer*

      Janos, you have often stated that you would be just fine with a government with few if any voters, yourself included, provided that they shared your bigotries and skin colour. You would be less laughable if you were at least consistent.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 13, 2017 at 11:50 pm #

        The People are represented by their elected officials – elected by those competent to judge. It all fits together L Ron. Bad Elites have to be replaced by good ones that serve the People.

        Your idea of no Elite is silly and leads directly to Tyranny orchestrated by those who control the mob. This has been understood for thousands of years, but you still don’t get it.

    • pequiste January 13, 2017 at 4:45 pm #

      One needs to be careful when playing with those spooky folks.

      One might inadvertently catch a 115 gr. morsel of Pb in the ol’ noggin.

      One could have one’s aircraft fall out of the sky – aviation: an inherently dangerous endeavour.

      One could wind up in an embassy in Benghazi (during an Yzlamist riot) or found in a Brazzaville dumpster. Like in the real estate bidness location, location, location.

      One might even have an accident with a pillow in a remote ranch bedroom. Ask the late-Justice Antonin Scalia. (Who owns that ranch?…a former National Security Advisor? Hmmmmmmmm)

      Always be careful when taking candy from spoiled children.

  144. capt spaulding January 13, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

    One of the things that I have noticed as I journey through life, is that people filter reality through their beliefs. They don’t try to examine what is happening in a neutral fashion, but instead bend things to fit their own preconceived ideas. It doesn’t matter which side they support, be it liberal or conservative, they bend it to fit the way they want it to. This fact alone explains the state of affairs that now exists. The failure to recognize the craziness that is out there, practically guarantees the chaos that will follow. I understand that nothing is going to change in this regard, people being the way that they are now and throughout history, therefore I have no choice but to prepare for what will inevitably follow. The powers that be on both sides, take advantage of this human condition, and push their own agenda (to the detriment of the people), with no regard except for the benefits that will accrue to their own side. We are being played, folks, and the sooner we wake up to that fact, the better . Having become a cynic, not by choi