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Has anyone else noticed how odd it is that the so-called “Resistance” has all along included the state security apparatus in its every sordid iteration — the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, and God knows how many others among the touted “seventeen security agencies” who supposedly ginned up the Russian Meddling story on behalf of the Democratic National Committee. Movements that affect to be revolutionary don’t usually turn to the secret police and their equivalents for aid and comfort.

The Resistance pulled out all the stops last week in its shrieking denunciation of the Nunes Memo, and the various complaints had one thing in common: a complete lack of interest in the facts of the matter, in particular the shenanigans in the upper ranks of the FBI. Give a listen, for instance, to last Thursday’s Slate’s Political Gabfest with David Plotz, John Dickerson, and Emily Bazelon, the three honey-badgers of Resistance Radio (like the fabled honey-badgers of the veldt, they don’t give a shit about any obstacles in pursuit of their quarry: Trump). They’ve even been able to one-up Nassim Taleb’s defined category of “intellectuals-yet-idiots” to intellectuals-yet-useful-idiots.

The New York Times, with its termite-mound of casuistry artists, managed to concoct a completely inside-out “story” alleging that the disclosure in the Nunes memo of official impropriety at the FBI was in itself an “obstruction of justice,” since making the FBI look bad might impede their ability to give Trump the much wished-for bum’s rush from the White House.

There was already enough dishonesty in our national life before the Left side of the political transect decided to ally itself with the worst instincts of the permanent Washington bureaucracy: the faction devoted to ass-covering. The misconduct at the FBI and DOJ around the 2016 election is really quite startling. How is it not disturbing that Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr brokered the Steele Dossier between the Fusion GPS psy-ops company and the FBI, when Fusion GPS was employed by the Clinton campaign, and Ohr’s wife worked for Fusion GPS? How is it okay that this janky dossier was put over on a FISA court judge to get warrants to surveil US citizens in an election campaign? How was it okay for Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe’s wife to accept $700,000 from the Clinton family’s long-time bag-man, Terry McAuliffe, when she ran for a Virginia State Senate seat, a few months before McCabe assumed command of the Hillary email investigation? How was it not fishy that FBI Deputy Assistant Director of the Counterintelligence Division, Peter Strock, and his workplace girlfriend, FBI lawyer (for Andrew McCabe), Lisa Page appeared to plot against Trump in their many cell-phone text exchanges?

These allegations look really bad, and it should be no surprise that they’ve prompted a massive ass-covering campaign by the FBI and especially their allies at the official Resistance news outlets. And, of course, lastly and most perplexingly there is the unappetizing figure at the center of this circus, President Trump himself, the avatar of wished-for return to American greatness, who is looking more and more like Melville’s awful and enigmatic White Whale pursued by single-minded mad men — and, remember, despite all the bloody ire, abuse, and harrassment heaped upon him by the vengeful Ahab, Moby Dick ended up smashing the whaling ship Pequod, and swimming away to legend.

As I have suggested previously, this whole tiresome shootin’ match of counter-allegation and propaganda about Russian Meddling will probably be superseded by upsets in the financial markets. Last week’s market action was a downer for sure. The melodrama of imploding valuations and counterparty obligations has just begun. It’s going to continue through the year, and the nation will face some truly existential dilemmas that may actually require some attention.

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560 Responses to “A Quandary”

  1. Georges1202 February 5, 2018 at 9:56 am #


    This new mantra of yours that we are picking on this slob is getting very tiresome. Any way to remove this carbuncle might mean the very future of this sad republic.

    • Jigplate February 5, 2018 at 10:13 am #

      Be careful what you wish for – What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. I was thinking about this last night while watching the Starz series “Counterpart” – where the world is duplicated in a parallel universe , and otherwise identical people in these different worlds have taken very different life paths. I imagined a parallel universe where Hillary had won the 2016 election , and a cadre of state security apparatchiks believing that she was an existential threat to the republic engaged in the same shenanigans that are going on now. If you are good with one , you have to be good with the other.

      • K-Dog February 5, 2018 at 10:45 am #

        It is still a common refrain among the ignorant that ‘Trump is good for us’. I do not refer to the ignorant here as his supporters though there are plenty of them. I refer to his opponents and many of them are still under the casuistry that having Trump in office will ‘wake people up’ and make them care about things that matter. Thinking this way is delusional but remains common among former Bernie supporters.

        • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 10:56 am #

          It is not that Trump is good for us Dog. it is that the American government is BAD for us.

          • messianicdruid February 5, 2018 at 11:52 am #

            Walter, I’m not picking on you.

            We have a corporate government which is anti-American. Americans love liberty for all. These mattoids hate Liberty. Therefore I cannot call them or the government they are trying to create American.

            America will survive the United States, and we will NEVER forget.

          • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 11:59 am #

            No doubt md, no doubt.

    • shotho February 5, 2018 at 10:18 am #

      “Any way . . . . .”? Well, how about a good old-fashioned military coup? That should pay finis to all pretense of a constitutional republic. Then, we can choose between the scions of identity pollitcs, black man Booker, black and female Harris or native-american female Warren. I’m sure you will like those choices better then the “slob”.

      • patrickd February 5, 2018 at 11:32 am #

        Shotho, whoever is put at the top of this government will make zero difference at all. This is a rogue terror state that murders and steals globally. The government makes it happen, as it serves only the top powers-that-be, who I think are the banking families. There are layers of hierarchy through which the orders are handed down. I don’t think the real powers behind this US government are known. The chore before the American people is to find out who they are, and then do two things simultaneously: 1) set up a new government that excludes bankers, their families, and their representatives, 2) arrest everyone who participated in the murder/genocide of the past 60 years in Latin America, Yugoslavia, and MENA. Put them all in a prison without bail to await trial.
        That’s what has to happen. Will it happen? I doubt it, but that’s what’s necessary. If it does happen, that would make America great. Not great again, but probably great for the first time – a great place to live.

        • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:38 am #

          Nailed it.

        • capt spaulding February 5, 2018 at 3:03 pm #

          Judging by who wound up as president, I don’t think that the public is educated enough to be able to judge anything.

        • Majella February 5, 2018 at 5:37 pm #

          Exactly! Trump is actually GOLD for TPTB – a major distraction and a reliable daily source of it, as well, while the environmental regs are shattered for profit.

          The media obsession with the Clown-President is doing us all a grave disservice and NOT informing the masses of the raping & pillaging going on under our noses.

      • PeteAtomic February 5, 2018 at 11:50 am #

        that’s a great point.

    • tdarr1234 February 5, 2018 at 10:19 am #

      I agree

    • beantownbill. February 5, 2018 at 10:25 am #

      What Jim has written is entirely correct. If you’re tired of this, you have the option of not reading this blog.

      • davidreese2 February 5, 2018 at 11:12 am #

        I am tired of this.

        But Kunstler is such a damn good writer and social critic that I have to read everything he writes.

      • SteveO February 5, 2018 at 2:46 pm #

        Challenge accepted.

      • outsider February 5, 2018 at 5:33 pm #

        My words exactly, Beantown. I applaud a liberal like Mr. Kunstler for not falling for the prevailing narrative that Trump is the incarnation of evil. As for his allusion to Trump being like Moby Dick’s White Whale, who among us did not feel sorry for the outnumbered lone whale? I, for one, hope that Trump gets his revenge on those Deep State Statists who made sure that there would be no rapprochement with Russia.

        • outsider February 5, 2018 at 5:34 pm #

          I meant to say ‘reformed’ liberal.

    • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 10:45 am #

      The last time the forces of evil removed a president from office America was plunged into Eternal War for Profit. Did you volunteer YOUR ass and those of your children in service to this evil cause or did you simply profit from the deaths of countless millions? If the Evil Ones do it again I can only imagine WTF will happen next. Those of us that were sickened by eight years of The Great Divider, Barry Obama, never called for his demise and in fact many of us would have stepped between him and a bullet in order to prevent the chaos that would have surely ensued by an untimely end. Americans do not remove those that are elected by force! That kind of bullshit is supposed to happen in third world shit holes, remember? Are you suggesting that we have become one of these too? Good, maybe there will be a mass exit to somewhere else.

      • Anon1970 February 5, 2018 at 11:59 am #

        “Americans do not remove those that are elected by force!” The first time I read this, I thought, no we don’t elect officials by force, we elect them with huge piles of money. As the late Jesse Unruh said, “Money is the mother’s milk of politicis.” But that’s probably not what you meant to say.

        I am not very concerned about the whole Russia scandal. After all, our oppointed and elected officials approved the sale of American uranium to Russia a few years ago. It seems to me that there was a failure in our national security apparatus in that transaction, and perhaps a liitle bribery, maybe a lot of bribery. When will the Uranium One deal be investigated and when will the little people be told the truth about it?

        • messianicdruid February 5, 2018 at 8:01 pm #

          In seventy five years, if all the perps are dead.

      • BuckP February 5, 2018 at 4:28 pm #

        They removed JFK by force! That coup d’etat brought us their man LBJ and the Vietnam War. After that, they removed RFK by force so their boy Richard Milhouse Nixon could run things. Nixon even sabotaged the Paris peace talks in 1968 so he could get elected. Reagan thwarted Carter’s October surprise by delaying the Iranian hostage release until Inaguration Day. The CIA facilitated the importation of cocaine into the USA during Iran Contra. In 2003 under George W, we invaded Iraq using the phones excuse of WMD’s. We now protect the Afghan poppy fields from being burned by the Taliban.
        I would say we are already and have been a banana republic for some time. The only difference between us and shithole banana republics, who confine their killing to inside their own borders, is that the USA kills millions of foreigners, mostly innocent souls, on their own soil! All to keep us safe in our warm little beds at night. Sure!
        I’m not a Trump fan, but based on his predecessors’ actions he doesn’t look too bad. He is just a little ill-mannered and crude.

        • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 5:18 pm #

          Well America did not remove them by force because I do not consider Allen Dulles, J Edgar Hoover, LBJ or any of those other M-Fer’s to be American, they were Bolsheviks. There is nothing more anti-American as murdering your own elected president at least IMHO. Yes, our military is now guarding poppy fields and I can tell you that right from the mouths of men that were doing it. As to your opinion that we have become a Banana Republic, well if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, a duck it certainly may be.

          • BuckP February 6, 2018 at 1:36 am #

            I was 12 years old on 11/24/63 when, after arriving home from church, saw Jack Ruby “gut shoot” Lee Harvey Oswald live on television as it happened. Right then I knew the whole thing stunk to high heaven. After the Warren Commission Report fiction came out, I realized that what they were teaching me in school about America wasn’t entirely true and that no official government narrative should be implicitly trusted. Years later, after the release of the Pentagon Papers, all my suspicions were confirmed. The sad thing is that the secret/invisible/shadow government, deep state, military industrial intelligence complex, financial oligarchy sends brave, courageous American men and women into meat grinders all over the world to be killed or maimed to further their interests not ours.

          • Walter B February 6, 2018 at 9:19 pm #

            Yes Buck I was 9 on the day that Jack Kennedy was murdered. The nuns told us that the president had been shot and sent us home early to pray for him. I opened the door at home and walked in to see Johnson being sworn in on AF-1 with Jackie behind him in her blood stained suit. I pointed to that rat bastard LBJ and said, “Mommy, HE did it!” Unlike Richard Nixon, I will remember that moment forever and have known from then that it was as bad is it turned out to be. It is something that all of us will take to the grave with us. .

    • Zoltar February 5, 2018 at 1:22 pm #

      You are dangerously wrong, George. The Democratic Party has betrayed its rightful constituency for over a generation and now, as Jim has pointed out, it is so deeply corrupt that it would rather ally itself with the FBI, NSA, etc. than muster a legitimate alternative to the Republicans.
      If that’s what it takes to get rid of Trump, then ALL is lost.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 2:34 pm #

        It’s even deeper than that: the forces for “change”, and that includes both the Democratic Party and the Antifa and everything in between are now simply the tools of the Global Elite – and they complete lack the wit to see it. On the number one issue of immigration: they all want open borders. Even as the Antifa hiss and curse the Elite, they do their bidding. Ditto the Democrats and the large majority of the Republicans. Only once this is recognized can you value Trump properly. He is the revolutionary, not any of these people. Sure he lacks a greater vision, but to the extent he has one, it’s real. He’s not a lackey of the Corporations and Bankers like almost everyone else.

        • hmuller February 5, 2018 at 5:58 pm #

          Agreed Janos. But I think Trump knows more about the secret evil club, their blood rituals, and their agenda than he’s tweeting about. If the American people learned the truth. there would be hysteria and mass emotional breakdowns,

          • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 6:28 pm #

            Always good to see intelligent people see that, understand it and still be able to deal with every day life. Nothing is more depressing than listening to those poor unfortunates that are addicted to denial and fairy tales. Colonel Jessup was absolutely accurate in his assessment.

    • snarkmatic9000 February 5, 2018 at 5:02 pm #

      The whole Deep State paranoia is based on simple lack of recognition of the obvious fact that while it is strictly about the money, as it always is, as boring as it might be there is no great controlling premeditated conspiracy. There is no secret and plotting cabal; the closest thing being Koch Bros and similar patrons of influential think tanks and legalized corporate influence of a corrupt political system.

      Having grown up and lived in the DC orbit for nearly 70 years and with friends and acquaintances pretty well placed at one time or another at DOD, NSA, CIA, USAID, Fed, FannyMae, & the like, all with their own huge and self-serving bureaucracies, regardless of party, and subsidized by greedy corporate executives more than willing to spend whatever it takes to influence a political system of legalized bribery and interested only in self-preservation in a political system that rewards and perpetuates infinite financialization, pyramid schemes, constant wars, and the insane levels of defense spending and empire building that are bringing this country to it’s knees, one can only submit that it’s delusional to think that Trump, of all people, can do a damn thing about it. Not he, if he even understood the problem, not anyone, can get the unlimited amounts of corrupt money being shoveled into a system whose politicians need to be bought in order to survive out of a machine that can’t exist without it.

      • outsider February 5, 2018 at 5:55 pm #

        The Famous Sign at the Gates of Hell:

        “Abandon Hope all Ye who Enter Here!!!” Dante’s Inferno

        Is that where we’re at in the USA today?

      • messianicdruid February 5, 2018 at 8:14 pm #

        This is why hyper inflation may be a good thing – long term. When all they have stolen is worthless it won’t buy allegiance.

  2. Petro February 5, 2018 at 10:03 am #

    Oh Em Gee, you are absolutely obsessed with this Russian investigation! What about some in-depth analysis of the myriad forms of corruption, the dismantling of various agencies that protect public health, safety, national parks, infrastructure (beyond transportation), and the Orwellian proclivities of Trumpian directives? There is so much crazy sh*t going down, and you often have compelling things to say about them.

    • Bro Jobe February 5, 2018 at 10:18 am #

      It’s his idee fixe, until Fundamentalist Christian stormtroopers drag JHK out of Washington County with all the other subversives. At least he might get deported to Israel.

      We have other problems that the Sociopath is stirring up. None of this will end prettily in our broken nation.

    • ozone February 5, 2018 at 10:57 am #

      Not that JHK needs any defending, I believe he alludes to your concerns (which reflect mine), in his windup.

      “As I have suggested previously, this whole tiresome shootin’ match of counter-allegation and propaganda about Russian Meddling will probably be superseded by upsets in the financial markets. Last week’s market action was a downer for sure. The melodrama of imploding valuations and counterparty obligations has just begun. It’s going to continue through the year, and the nation will face some truly existential dilemmas that may actually require some attention.”

      It’s my belief that the struggle between exposure and coverup that holds the power of the shadow “agencies” that really control this country’s foreign crazier-than-a-shithouse-rat policies, will bring this place to a terrible confrontation between the awakened folk who actually recognize this and the gigantic herd of sheep who’ve been conditioned to screen staring and thumb sucking comfort and conformity (these “needs” and “wants” instilled by the same power structures of extraction and manufactured consent).

      Meanwhile… due to willful ignorance, rank stupidity governing the cultural zeitgeist, over-population leading to over-use of natural resources, poisoning for profit, and a wagon load of fraud and mendacity engendered by clinical psychopaths… we live on a knife-edge that no one wishes to see. Enter the political juggling act and the manufacturing of consent; I withdraw mine. Rule by compulsive and sociopathic liars is not my idea of a road to betterment/repair of our home.

  3. Bro Jobe February 5, 2018 at 10:15 am #

    I’m in the odd position of disagreeing about Russia and also not caring too much until obstruction-of-justice or money-laundering comes into play.

    I do think Russia tried to sway the election by a variety of means, but I also think it was a brilliant ploy on Putin’s part to weaken us. And why not? We kicked Mother Russia when she was down.

    The “cyber army” of trolls and hackers is real. So what? Isn’t it a state’s right to use asymmetrical warfare against a foe with more powerful conventional might? Or am I just enamored of having a respectable enemy again, one with a great fur hat, cigarette in one hand, blonde supermodel in the other, posing in front of a T-90 tank in his greatcoat? Much nicer than suicidal guys in flip-flops, wearing tea cozies on their heads.

    The GGG won. I accept (and hate) that, but I don’t think the Ruskies made him King. Disaffected white workers who have not seen wage growth in years, who have seen their jobs exported, who have seen unions abandon them…they voted for the Sociopath. So be it. We have elections and it’s up to the opposition to be rid of the GGG if they can.

    Meanwhile, something Putin cannot manipulate, the Market, continues its tumble. Remember DOW 4,000, Jim? How about DOW 14,000 before this rout stops?

    • K-Dog February 5, 2018 at 10:29 am #

      ‘cigarette in one hand, blonde supermodel in the other, posing in front of a T-90 tank’

      Perish the thought but I think Putin actually goes home to his wife at the end of the day.

      Spending less money than many readers here make in a year trying to influence a national election isn’t a whole lotta influence either. Come to think of it CFN probably influenced the election more than Putin did and not a whole lotta people read come here to read CFN. Probably only a few hundred in a week.

      If you are still wondering what CFN is. You are reading it. ‘C’ stands for ‘cluster’.

    • aibohphobia February 5, 2018 at 4:28 pm #

      Troo Dat Bro Jobe!
      Whatever else you can say about the Russians, you can depend on them to always follow their own best interests. Consistency. I like that in a foe–and it opens the possibility that, at least some of the time if our interests coincide with theirs, we can at least stay the hell out of each others’ way…

      The ROPEs* on the other hand, seem intent on murdering themselves as well as others who do not subscribe to their exact beliefs, and cutting body parts off of some of those who do subscribe. Ya just can’t trust an enemy like that. No common sense!

      If the ROPEs wanted to be popular, they could target the folks who make computer viruses, for example… But no– gotta be civilians…

      ROPEs = followers of the Religion Of Peace and Enlightenment

  4. K-Dog February 5, 2018 at 10:17 am #

    The allegations look really bad only to people who care. Take away the Trump hating and the number of people who will remain concerned about snooping excesses will be down to twelve. The fourth amendment is far too abstract in our land of nothing matters and everything goes for our Uber generations to care about.

    We are a nation of voyeurs who alternate between the big blue screen on the wall or the little blue screen in your hand. The idea of such people becoming concerned with snooping and its propriety or misuse is ludicrous. Pedestrian snooping which takes up at least four hours of an average Americans day is also limited to entertainment where there is no possible participation with the dancing images. The painful mental leap of realizing that more than watching can go on is never made.

  5. Paul Ford O'Neil February 5, 2018 at 10:22 am #

    Hey Jim,

    Is some ‘deep-state’ hacker screwing with your WEBSite this morning? Couldn’t open your blog until I clicked on several lines.

    Nary a peep here at the confluence of the Anacostia & Patomac!

    Sadly, I think ALL of this kabuki theater will swirl down the rat-hole of public memory 20 minutes after ‘THEY’ pull the pin on the DJIA. Stay local – laugh global.

    Stupor Bowl – did Seattle win, or get robbed again?


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    • janet February 5, 2018 at 11:52 am #

      Seattle won. Brady lost.

      • outsider February 5, 2018 at 6:04 pm #

        Are you kidding Janet??? Philadelphia won! And it was a great game even for a very casual fan like myself.

      • hmuller February 5, 2018 at 6:10 pm #

        Seattle? Am I missing some inside joke?

  6. FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 10:23 am #

    No blog title today? Is it a glitch similar to Fox Channel 5 glitch on Sunday?

    President Trump’s declassification of the documents on the assassination of President Kennedy was a preparation for the finale of the drama witnessed yesterday by the Americans as a result of the publication of the Nunes’ memorandum, when the unknown persons brought down the studio equipment 15 minutes before the Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace – main political show of the only pro-Trump television channel FOX5.


    But the show still took place and usually reserved anchor Chris Wallace took a liberty, showing the astonished public all the insanity of the deep state.

    This combination of insanity and Deep State in America was foreseen by the great artists almost forty years ago, becoming the theme of perhaps the two best American movies, one of which thundered all over the world, and the other was trampled in the mud by critics who sold themselves to the Deep Throat.

    And perhaps only now, after the publication of the Nunes’ memorandum and the documents on the murder of Kennedy, this film will be appreciated, including in combination with its half-brother, that became famous more than forty years ago.

    It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (1963)

    The Domino Principle (1977)

  7. lbs February 5, 2018 at 10:25 am #

    Great point that the “resistance” is allied with the secret police. I have had in mind to sport a bumper sticker: “How can you be the resistance when you are the regime?”

    • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 10:36 am #

      Who says Americans don’t do irony?

    • michael February 5, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

      Much like “critical thinking” is the act of debunking “conspiracy theories” to validate “legitimate, mainstream information”.

    • messianicdruid February 5, 2018 at 8:27 pm #

      Good bumper snicker. Here’s another:

      The Flat Earth society has members all over the globe.

  8. tahoe1780 February 5, 2018 at 10:25 am #

    Spot on Jim. How ironic that charges of threats to our democracy are being met with resistance movements to unseat the democratically elected president. I read of approval ratings of 49%. Gonna be a lot of angry deplorables (with guns) if their man is taken out.

    • janet February 5, 2018 at 11:55 am #

      There are plenty of jails to put them in… should the angry men with guns misbehave. #MeToo

  9. tdarr1234 February 5, 2018 at 10:26 am #

    I just wonder how many people took the time to read the memo? There just wasn’t allot of evidence of corruption there. Even if they used the dossier as an essential part of the fisa warrant, I would think not keeping an eye on Carter Page as being a dereliction of duty by the DOJ.

  10. Kafkaesque February 5, 2018 at 10:30 am #

    Nassim Taleb’s also told us that our predictive modalities are hopelessly anthropomorphised (he’d have preferred Brit Eng), alas, Trump, the dark swan…song. Cover yer ears, me boyo.

    He’ll resign from exhaustion, then Schneiderman RICOs his arse; he’ll still have Trump Tower….behind him as he tin cups for spare change.

    J.B. Pravda

    Btw, you’re right about the duplicity rash—-as the Duke’s Jeremiad summed it up in R&J: ‘All are punish-ed!’ As a senior law partner once told this kid lawyer, ‘we ceased to govern ourselves long ago’, as he counted his payola.

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  11. Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 10:32 am #

    Save your ire Jim. No matter your argument or its soundness, at least half the population will reject it out of hand. What we have now is simply a continuation of the deal made with the devil that was thrust upon us when the final “choice” of head numbnut came down to two equally criminal and incompetent choices in 2016. Might as well flip a coin for all it matters, because it’s painfully obvious that the deep state shadow government is the one actually in charge these days.

    All the rest of it is just smoke and mirrors in a half-hearted and failed attempt to obfuscate the fact that since 9-11 the government we think we see is not the one we’re actually getting. Will we the people wake up to this fact anytime soon? Of course not. That’s what big screen TVs and Super Bowls and Daytona 500s and patriotic AF flyovers are for!

    • K-Dog February 5, 2018 at 11:02 am #

      ‘since 9-11 the government we think we see is not the one we’re actually getting’

      Ol’Scratch, if people only knew all kinds of pills would be popped. It would make a shortage. People would have to realize we are all doing 70 in the Thelma & Louise blue ragtop heading for Seneca’s cliff. Yet this is probably expecting far too much from our nations video addled attention span.

      Nobody realizes what kind of government we are actually getting with our nearly invisible deep state. Not even the deep state.

      What we are getting is government inflexibly committed to the status-quo and incapable of implementing good or meaningful solutions. It will be the death of us.

      All the way down.

    • VCS February 5, 2018 at 11:38 am #


      I agree with all you say in the comment above. Often say the same thing myself, degree of confidence 90-95%.

      But I still want Trump gone.

      Illogical?? — Probably — But my gut says the longer he stays in power, the more that 5-10% hope diminishes toward zero.

      • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:43 am #

        Agreed. But it matters how he gets got. Once the anything goes method get let out of the bag this time (it’s been employed many times before), who knows where it will all stop? The cure might very well be much worse than the disease.

        • VCS February 5, 2018 at 11:52 am #

          Good point…I think. But not sure what you mean by “anything goes method…employed many times before.” Elaborate por favor?

          • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 12:13 pm #

            JFK for sure, with a bullet. Nixon allegedly, with a frame up.

  12. Walter B February 5, 2018 at 10:37 am #

    You see Jim, you have done it again, painting the perfect analogy for the shit show now unfolding in America. A Great White Whale pursued by Single Minded Man Men. And scary too as the original tale ended in the deaths of all save the lone naïve newbie clinging to a coffin made for an Indian. Wow, would that be that karma in action or what? I will fall asleep tonight conjuring up images of Moby Trump winding down slowly to the bottom with Hillary Ahab strapped firmly to his rump. Perhaps that is why the president has survived in office so long now, surely a foul demise would be linked back to the Arkansas Angel of Death.

    America today has morphed into what Chicago was under the rule of Al Capone. If Donald Trump has assumed the role of Elliot Ness, all bets are off as to possible outcomes. I cannot honestly say which is worse guys, a continued slow spiral into the crapper or a sudden showdown in the streets, but since all I can do is watch and wait, it is good to be able to share the company of most of you and especially you Jim as it unfolds. In my personal whale hunt, New Jersey’s debt has just been called out as “dangerous” which will give me some steam for the continuation of our Township’s debt pay down and it IS budget time again so good for me. As I battle the four other Committeemen in the dirt, I get the feeling that I am a little bit too late, and it would seem that the national theater can say the same thing. Let’s roll!

    • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:02 am #

      Moby Trump winding down slowly to the bottom with Hillary Ahab strapped firmly to his rump

      LOL!!! An image for the ages!

    • aibohphobia February 5, 2018 at 4:51 pm #

      Great image JHK! You can almost see the whaleboat of mad politicians and social justice warriors, shrilly shouting, “Thar he blows!** The Straight White Male! Harpoons at the ready…”

      And ahead of them swims a great while whale with orange hair on top of his head, muttering things like “those are fake harpoons y’know” and “We’re building a Wall across the Pacific to keep out illegal Halibut.”

      **And he DOES Blow, BTW…

  13. ricksinger February 5, 2018 at 10:44 am #

    James, all your clean country living has apparently sapped your ability to reason. Your ability to send your readers running to their dictionary has not diminished as your bias has increased.

    Your clever use of language doesn’t obfuscate the hypocrisy of your selective use of alternative facts.

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  14. Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter February 5, 2018 at 10:44 am #

    Great article, JH!!! Here is my rant from another website comment section, where the Democrats were accused of “over playing” the classification of the Nunes Memo:

    The Democrats did not “overplay” their statements about the Memo. No, Democrats do what Democrats almost always do, and simply lied about it for political purposes. That is why it is a waste of time to take anything a Democrat says seriously, as if their words and sentences have some sort of meaning, or even a casual relationship to reality.

    Democrats will say anything that they thinks helps them politically. For example, Nancy “Demento” Pelosi’s canard that secure borders and presumably immigration laws in general, are racisssst! But there is a difference when she says it, and a run of the mill Democrat or SJW says it. Nancy Pelosi knows that her statement is bullsh*t, and she that she is saying it for political brownie points.

    But, those Democrats further down the food chain do not really know that at all,. They believe it! They have swallowed the cynical crap hook, line, and sinker as a matter of faith, as sure as that expressed by any backwoods rattlesnake-handling, holy-rolling, speaking in tongues, Pentecostal.

    That is why you can not get a straight answer on this website from the Democrats. They haven’t thought about their positions at all. What you get from them is the same disjointed grunts and disconnected syllables you get from the Pentecostal when the Holy Ghost is moving in him. That is to say, unintelligible garble.”

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 10:54 am #

      Well done Squeeky! That is why the Democrats have chosen a demented geriatric dipshit as a poster child. The blathering drivel that foams out of her pie hole is not only unintelligible, it is pathetic enough to start the rabid minions cheering immediately to drown out the BS which she spews. The Old Age Homes of the US Congress and the US Senate really needs a Giant Enema of Clorox and soapy water to clean out the colon before a colonoscopy becomes the only cure.

      • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:06 am #

        The Old Age Homes of the US Congress and the US Senate really needs a Giant Enema of Clorox and soapy water to clean out the colon before a colonoscopy becomes the only cure.

        You’re on fire today Walter! Talk about an EPA Superfund project!

        • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 11:45 am #

          Thank you Scratch, thank you. I ran into another Committeeman last Friday at school, the one we appointed to serve as Mayor this year. He attended a legislative session in Trenton, that day, and told me of two scary items that were discussed on the agenda. The first was that the State of NJ runs a bank that is now broke and needs funding. We all know where THAT will come from. The second was that NJ debt is now considered “dangerous” which means that entities that are willing to loan monies to municipalities or the state will now be less willing to do so and if they do it will be at much higher rates. Most people do not know that municipal notes go out for bid every year until they are converted into hard bonds or that the rates are strictly up to those making the loans, NOT some entity like the Feral Reserve. Yes Feral. This is NOT good, it is in fact very scary. More details as they unfold.

          • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 12:14 pm #

            Feral Reserve. Yes. Another good one!

      • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter February 5, 2018 at 2:02 pm #

        “The Old Age Homes of the US Congress and the US Senate really needs a Giant Enema of Clorox and soapy water to clean out the colon. . .”

        They tried that a few weeks ago with Pelosi. Didn’t you hear about Montecito Mudslide Disaster???

        Whocuddanode there was that much crap inside her???

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

  15. newworld February 5, 2018 at 10:46 am #

    Mostly you virtue signaling progressive men have given over to the worst impulses of the women who boss you around.

    Now I know your response to this is some intellectual snobbishness, but do a thought experiment how would your life be affected if your women lost access to the medicines they are prescribed for their anxiety, depression or whatever.

    How long would you be able to send out some tweaker meth head like Schiff to placate the anxieties of your women folk before they do a complete meltdown?

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  16. FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 10:50 am #

    since 9-11 the government we think we see is not the one we’re actually getting

    Great observation, Scratch!

    Obviously, the Deep State was created not to combat President Trump, but to combat President Bush Jr., so 2001 is about the right timing.

    Do they have the official Date of Birth?

    Does September 11 sound like a good match?

    • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 10:54 am #

      And just like Bush W, intelligentsia is trying to paint Donald Trump in village-idiot’s colors.


      • outsider February 5, 2018 at 6:28 pm #


        Difference is that W actually WAS a village-idiot!

    • K-Dog February 5, 2018 at 11:26 am #

      Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act – October 25, 1978

      If you want an official birthday take this. Things did not get rolling domestically until after 9-11 so that can be the unofficial birthday. Technology and relaxation of standards had to catch up. Actually many birthdays are possible. I’ll go with the day that our Internet snoopers let British Internet snoopers snoop on Americans thus for them to give our snoopers the results. Thus circumventing FISA rules.

      Q: And who polished the apparatus to the fully intrusive weapon it now is with the power to full direct the path of our nation through tiny micro personal fuckifications on one end and macro media manipulations on the other end.

      A: Obama

      • patrickd February 5, 2018 at 11:57 am #

        Dog, I think the Deep State is an up-to-date tool created to take advantage of the digital age and its technology, and that the powers who rule America have been in power since 1776 – the people who control the money (bankers). That’s my pet theory, and I have no evidence to support it, but my intuition screams it. So I would put the birthday well before 1776, when the men with money realized they had to come up with a good narrative to trick the common people (like you and me) to go die in battle against England, telling them it’s for freedom (blah blah blah), but really so the rich could forego British tribute (taxes), and steal British resources. It’s the same MO today. Come up with a narrative to get richer, make the commoner do the killing…

        • K-Dog February 5, 2018 at 11:32 pm #

          They did not have a secret police that can cancel all your credit cards at once back then. They did not even have credit cards.

  17. JohnAZ February 5, 2018 at 11:00 am #

    Looks like today’s mot de jour is dump Trump, what a bum he is. Wrong! He is the creation of the Main Street media and people who believe the BS that the psycho press writes about him. He has created the most creativity in a national institution that we have seen since the creation of the PC. Imagine the conference room of the New York Times or CNN sitting around creating new baloney and spinning today’s legitimate news. Lord, save your watches! They spend endless resources creating anti-Trump rhetoric, many reporters with their entire job description being the destruction of Trump’s persona. Where were they when Trump was just a normal billionaire entrepreneur? No where to be found. A good question is how did these supposed news organizations become so Leftist, who has stacked the deck and destroyed true current events reporting.

    Imagine the US if the Left succeeds in its coup. We will become a one party country as the RINO finally become there Leftists they are in reality. Two come to mind immediately, war hawks that vote liberal on everything else. They have been very successful selling their phony baloney character to their constituents, myself included. Anyway, what a place America will be if the coup succeeds. Socialism, what a charming thought. Communism on the cusp. Do not worry we will take care of you, just give us your Money and resources. We will take away all those bad rich guys dollars so that you will have money. Yeah, right! We will take away all those rich guys money because we want to control everybody and private enterprise dilutes our power base. It is becoming so bad that Hollywood wants us to believe that the elite governmental types should tell us all how to run our lives. Look at California, Long a bellwether for the country. The results, the highest poverty, homelessness, and a busted budget. And they just continue with their insane agenda. Socialism is horrible what it does to the motivational entrepreneurship of a populace. Approve a socialist agenda and government becomes a blood sucking leech draining the blood of a people. Think about education and what has happened.. Constant liberal, including the supposed “conservative” Bush years, influence has yielded a feckless education system that has dumbed down the children of the country and multigenerationally the teachers themselves. New liberal ideas have negated a few centuries of educational progress in their desire to make us all good little citizens, good little Communists. It is as though Russia and us have changed places, The liberals have had fifty years to pull the wool over the eyes of this country in their insane pursuit of power, it is time to reverse the tide before we all become Venezuela or yes, California. Trump may be an arrogant tough blatant person but at least his compass is pointed North.

    • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:13 am #

      Clearly you haven’t been paying attention John. The D’s are a wholly owned subsidiary of the same political interests as the R’s. Painting them as “liberal” is simply falling into the labeling trap the R’s created at least as far back as the 80’s.

      • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:23 am #

        Sorry, got pulled away. The whole liberal/conservative political spectrum canard is nothing but a political labeling myth created and nourished by the corporate owned media to keep the teeming masses ignorant and shouting at each other about things that don’t matter. The only thing important in politics is whose interests are being served, and if you’re reading this blog or others like it, rest assured it’s not yours.

    • ricksinger February 5, 2018 at 11:20 am #

      When did so many JHK readers swing so hard to the right?

      • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:25 am #

        Conservatism’s always the last bastion of the politically destitute.

      • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 11:30 am #

        There in nothing on the left or on the right that has any value nor does it foster any form of truth. Those that cling to the Red or the blue, the jackass or the Dumbo, the liberal or the conservative labels are lost. The truth is out there and it is in the middle, not the extremes.

        • patrickd February 5, 2018 at 12:08 pm #

          Walter, I am 71, and at least half a dozen times in my life I have sat down and studied all the political terms left/right, conservative/liberal, Red/Blue, and I still don’t get it. I think that’s because these are fictitious labels created by the ruling elite to distract us from the truth of specific things.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 2:46 pm #

            Most people are incapable of that, their minds are not evolved enough to let go of words since they are the very building blocks of thought for them.

            If a Union head wears a suit to work, makes six figures, etc – he’ll soon start feeling more in common with his supposed opponents than the workers he’s supposedly representing. Bigness corrupts everything in just this way. The real question should thus be centralized vs decentralized to avoid bigness as much as possible.

          • outsider February 5, 2018 at 6:58 pm #

            Terms like liberal left and conservative right have no meaning. Hitler is called Far Right, when in actuality he was a National “Socialist.” Stalin is considered a communist so is called Far Left. Yet, wasn’t he, (unlike the original commies of the Russian Revolution), also a National Socialist, since he believed in “Socialism in One Country” instead of worldwide communist revolution? Perhaps it would have been in their best interests to stick to their Non-Aggression Pact, and realize that Western Corporate Global Expansion, based on usury and the subjugation of the masses into endless debt, was their real enemy.

        • cbeard February 6, 2018 at 7:38 am #

          An old adage comes to mind. If you are not of a liberal bent when young, you don’t have a heart. If you don’t have conservative leanings when you’re older, you don’t have a brain.

      • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter February 5, 2018 at 2:46 pm #

        They didn’t. They other side just doesn’t comment as much. The Left has just become so intellectually stunted that most adherents can no longer engage in intelligent debate or argument.

        I mean how long are you going to last when your argument for illegal immigrants is “There are no illegal people!”

        This is why Liberal Democrats try to shut down Conservative speakers on college. They have no response but to throw out canards calling Conservatives racissst!, and White Nationalists.

        That is why Tucker Carlson has to work his ass off to get answers from Liberals to simple questions. Then, they start to spin and throw out irrelevant stock phrases.

        Sooo, here is a joke I just made up:

        Conservative: Hey, Liberal, can you tell me how illegal immigration and cheap labor helps America’s poor people, particularly Black Americans???

        Liberal: Fish.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

      • Petro February 5, 2018 at 7:16 pm #

        That’s just the way it appears from most of the comments here in the bi-weekly food fight. It may also be that a lot of people have just walked away, having concluded that, as one observer put it on Friday, this site has “gone full-retard.”

        • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter February 5, 2018 at 8:10 pm #

          Like I just said, “This is why Liberal Democrats try to shut down Conservative speakers on college. They have no response but to throw out canards calling Conservatives racissst!, and White Nationalists.”

          And still, even after I said that, you responded by calling names!

          Thank you for proving my point! Here, now go fetch this stick. . ..Ohhh, give the stick to Mommy! Now, that’s a good little Democrat!

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

          • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 11:31 am #

            Talking about calling people names, Squeeky, would this be you they’re talking about?


            I was innocently googling who your screen name was and up you popped. You seem to have quite a reputation.

          • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 11:39 am #

            “The Left has just become so intellectually stunted that most adherents can no longer engage in intelligent debate or argument.”

            I enjoyed your ‘intelligent debate/argument’ about gay men in the link above.

            And a birther too. Then a not-birther-any-more. Damascene conversion. They don’t all buy that one, apparently. Maybe your intelligent debate and argument weren’t convincing.

  18. amb February 5, 2018 at 11:01 am #

    What a joke. America is and has been the biggest influencer in the elections of other countries. Interferes with everybody!

    Russia, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Switzerland, Saudi Arabia, Iran, et.al. probably all attempted to influence or interfere with the last US presidential election. SO WHAT!?

    This is all meaningless. If we don’t grow up, stop all of this pettiness and misguided behaviour, clean the corruption out, end the partisan in-fighting, and start paying attention to our actual priorities and issues that matter the USS America is going to sink to the bottom of the ocean.

    • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 11:07 am #

      America does not “influence” foreign election! America just murders the bastards and then puts their patsies in office to serve the needs of those that reap the financial rewards! Surely that is ok, isn’t it? It’s not like they cover it up or anything.

      • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:26 am #

        Keep it up Walter and Jim’s gonna turn the blog over to you! Nice!

      • patrickd February 5, 2018 at 12:10 pm #

        Walter you forgot to mention that America cleans out the gold vaults after murdering the bastards. TPTB in America love gold bullion.

        • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 12:23 pm #

          And why not? They know the currency is ultimately worthless.

      • SpeedyBB February 6, 2018 at 7:53 am #

        ‘Nothing personal… just business…’

        ‘Murder Incorporated’ sounds so quaint, so old-fashioned.

  19. bukowskisghost February 5, 2018 at 11:05 am #

    The deep state started with Operation Paper Clip, the infamous raiding of Nazi scientists, etc after the war. The boys in DC supercharged our defense dept and military research depts with the same monsters that annihlated millions and worshipped a mad man.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 11:15 am #

      Yeah, but back then it was not so secret – it was called The House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC).

  20. Robert White February 5, 2018 at 11:05 am #

    JHK is only human, and we can’t fault him for that, but Trump is the world’s biggest talking sphincter, and the Deep State knows it all too well by now even if JHK is still dreaming in Technicolor(tm) that the talking sphincter is also human, and has value aside from the stench that manifests when he opens his pie hole for a political bowel movement.

    P.S. Anyone watch the Puppy Bowl?


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    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 2:58 pm #

      You only display your ignorance here, Bob.

      • Robert White February 5, 2018 at 3:42 pm #

        The Memo is pure propaganda at this stage due to the fact that it has been declared biased from the outset due to the Dems contracting to get what they wanted. The waters have been muddied, but the dossier constructed by Steel is legitimate enough to warrant impeachment. The judicial process of arms of state attempting to disclose to Congress that the acting president is politically compromised is functionally utilitarian in so far as it allows the GGG to proclaim vindication where none is warranted.

        Just who is it that displays their ignorance if it is not you first, Janos. Trump ain’t vindicated, and I’m not inclined to lend any credence to the false notion that he is. Opposition parties always dig up whatever counterintelligence that they can reasonably get their grubby mitts on. That is not to say that the information is not accurate, or without reasonable biases that such research tends to contain.


        • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:58 pm #

          Your first sentence doesn’t make any sense. Declared biased by the biased? The Dems contracted to get a biased dossier is the truth of the matter. Heads need to roll over this.

          • Robert White February 5, 2018 at 4:28 pm #

            Everyone is biased, and we all need to manage our biases.
            Dems can be accused of being desperately fucked up, yes, I agree, but Trump poses a danger to the entire world given his lack of good judgement. Furthermore, I am a CANUCK, and I have turned against the ‘Conservative’ neocons in my country. I am now fully on board with the Liberal Party of CANADA, and my bias has leaned to the center-left of the political spectrum because of the latest misogyny evidenced in Ontario with respect to the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario.

            USA Republicans are complete anathema to me now, and I despise Trump. JHK is a leftie like moi, but he secretly pines for the Halcion days of America where folks tended to get along better because there were fewer people vying for the necessities of life. JHK is also leftie enough to accept my input here even if Ol’ Scratch is unimpressed where impression management was not meant to impress.


  21. janet February 5, 2018 at 11:06 am #

    Jim, the release of the “Memo” is a classic litigation tactic. Attack the credibility of the evidence against you, create that doubt. We have all seen that tactic used. Remember OJ trying on the glove that wouldn’t fit? They created a doubt and he walked. Don’t buy into propaganda.

    • outsider February 5, 2018 at 7:51 pm #


      Name ONE piece of CONCRETE evidence proving that there was any collusion between Trump and Russia! Just ONE!

  22. bukowskisghost February 5, 2018 at 11:14 am #

    The Civil War started after Trump secured the nomination in 2016. It’s real folks.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 11:17 am #

      The Civil War started after Hillary Clinton, sorry, Al Gore, lost the 2000 elections.

      • DrTomSchmidt February 5, 2018 at 11:42 am #

        Disagree. Whatever the battle over Bush/Gore, it was two wings of the same party arguing over how much more to spend on killing Muslims in the Middle East. Trump is rhetorically different, not a man of the “protected”, to use Peggy Noonan’s phrase but an advocate for the unprotected. I knew he was different when he complained at one Republican debate that we had spent 4Trillion$ on Iraq and Afghanistan, and wouldn’t our country be better off if we had spent that money here on infrastructure?

        Now, he has in fact increased troops and spending on Afghanistan but I do not think the “right big state,” all those military contractors and Beltway bandits, wanted to take a chance on him cutting off the gravy train. The Left Big State was going to oppose in any case, but they did not oppose like they did to W, still imo the worst President ever. W was rhetorically of their caste; Trump is not. It would be like Goldwater having been elected in 1964.

        • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

          One key difference: Gore wasn’t in on the 9-11 conspiracy, which was headed (at least “officially”) by Cheney. The Shrub was mostly a marketing man/spokesman, lending his family name and his “aww shucks” downhome country bumpkin, recovering alky, “born again” routine to the enterprise, the role he was always meant to play.

          But you’re correct, Trump is a rank outsider and total embarrassment to the east coast old money class, and they won’t rest until he’s gone.

        • akmofo February 5, 2018 at 12:34 pm #


          No one ever spent a red cent on Afghanistan or Iraq, and no one ever should. The trillions spent was indeed spent on American infrastructure. American war making infrastructure. And the Americans working in said industry and the towns involved make a very handsome living of it. In fact, better than most.

          Iran will be the next Soviet Jihadist shitholestan ground to dust. You can count on Trump.

  23. bukowskisghost February 5, 2018 at 11:16 am #

    “Grim footage shows a man in an Eagles jersey and scarf stooping down in the street to eat a mouthful of the dung as jubilant supporters cheered him on.”

    Post Superbowl celebration… how symbolic

    • JohnAZ February 5, 2018 at 11:33 am #


      I never labeled the liberals as D or R. Yes parties point in a direction but the problem in DC is not totally the political parties. The problem is the desire to move power to Washington, the Deep State, and both D and R are guilty. Something happens to people when they go to D.C., they become FEderalized and believe that Washington has all the answers and thus should be in charge. Hogwash!

      Those who can do, Do.
      Those who can’t do, teach.
      Those who can’t teach, administrate!

      Watching life for a long time, I sign up to this statement. We have adopted this axiom as fact in America and sent them all to Washington. Incompetence rules. Vote for term limits.

      • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:56 am #

        Those who can do, Do.
        Those who can’t do, teach.
        Those who can’t teach, administrate!

        LOL! I adapt that one to my circumstances by changing the last line to: “Those who can’t do either, manage!” Needless to say, I’m not thought well of by my managers. A fact I take comfort in, as the feeling is assuredly mutual. The real “administrators” are every bit the workers the grunts are (with many actually working harder for less), they just serve their mutual masters a little bit more directly.

        In Pink Floyd Animals terms:

        Workers of every stripe are sheep
        Managers – the most despicable class of all – are the owners’ attack dogs
        Owners are of course pigs

        • elysianfield February 5, 2018 at 12:42 pm #

          “Workers of every stripe are sheep
          Managers – the most despicable class of all – are the owners’ attack dogs
          Owners are of course pigs”

          …Sooo Orwell got it right?

        • Jigplate February 5, 2018 at 1:37 pm #

          Those who can do, Do.
          Those who can’t do, teach.
          Those who can’t teach, administrate!

          In my case, I “did” very well , but I wound up teaching , because it paid more , and allowed me to retire with a 60% pension at 57

          • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:04 pm #

            Those who can’t teach
            Teach gym.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:03 pm #

          And remember, the pigs were originally the leaders of the revolution in Orwell’s Animal Farm. Four legs good, Two legs bad becomes Four legs good, Two legs better once the Pigs stand up and become “men”.

          Try and talk with Bob, he’s embarrassing your embarrassing cause….

        • RobH February 6, 2018 at 9:03 am #

          The clue about managers is in the name… they can only just manage. Like when you see your 90 year old mom carrying a tea tray and ask if she can manage

      • SpeedyBB February 6, 2018 at 9:37 pm #


        Should be ‘Those who can’t teach, admenstruate’.

        With fraternal regard,

        Der Grammar Obersturmbahnführer

    • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 12:04 pm #

      Alcohol’s a helluva drug!

  24. PeteAtomic February 5, 2018 at 11:38 am #

    The ‘Russian meddlers’ remind me of the Wizard of Oz. Specifically, if the democratic party leadership represented the Wizard. The curtain has been pulled away and we are all supposed to ignore what the Wizard is doing.

    Isn’t it true that the Left and democrats are solely upset about “Russian meddling” because the Russians agitated their voter base with a fake BLM poster on social media who wrote under the name “blacktivist”?
    The democrats wouldn’t of cared if it were a fake person agitating for the Tea Party.

    Isn’t it also true that the WikiLeaks info– which Assange has continually and strongly denied Russian government involvement– illustrated how corrupt the DNC and the some members of the MSM are?

    I think the corruption is only going to get worse. Instead of addressing all of these incestuous relationships occurring in DC, the MSM will howl about ‘Russian meddlers’ in 2020, like they are Boris & Natasha from the Bullwinkle Show.

    It’s not that the democrats are upset that the US public was fooled or that there is corruption. The democrats are upset that somebody else did the fooling. For the DNC, it is unacceptable for another power to manipulate & con their base. They believe it is their monopoly to do this. That’s how I see what is really happening.

    • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 11:57 am #

      I think you see it entirely right!

      • PeteAtomic February 5, 2018 at 2:43 pm #

        a broken watch is right twice a day! lol

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:05 pm #

      Some MSM? Why some? There just part of the Democrat/Labor Party at this point.

      • outsider February 5, 2018 at 8:00 pm #

        I never thought I’d say this but:

        Thank God For FOX!!!

      • outsider February 6, 2018 at 8:58 am #

        Where you been, Janos? The Democrats (and their media fools) have not been a pro-labor party since at least Carter, maybe even LBJ. No party can call themselves pro-labor as long as they want to bring in millions of immigrants to cut down labor costs and take jobs away from those American blacks and whites who need decent, entry-level jobs. Barbara Jordan, civil rights and (black) democrat congressional leader from the 60’s knew that, when she campaigned against excessive immigration.

    • SpeedyBB February 6, 2018 at 9:43 pm #

      ‘The democrats are upset that somebody else did the fooling.’

      I thus stoutly maintain we are living in the Irony Age.

      (Even though some hapless members seem to be suffering from Irony Deficiency.)

  25. thwack February 5, 2018 at 11:41 am #

    Moby Dick ended up smashing the whaling ship Pequod, and swimming away to legend.

    White Power!

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    • Jigplate February 5, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

      We should all remember that “Moby dick” is loosely based on the true mis-adventures of the whaling ship Essex. In 1820 the ship was sunk by a sperm whale , and many the surviving crew wound up eating each other. Lets hope that the American experiment can avoid that fate.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

        Yeah Melville only told part of the story. The Whale is the Hero. The rest of the Tale is the Comedy “Man” – and the Hero the Conqueror Worm.

      • capt spaulding February 5, 2018 at 9:06 pm #

        I thought Moby Dick was a venereal disease.

  26. Elrond Hubbard February 5, 2018 at 11:46 am #

    More U.S. Teens Are Identifying as Trans and Gender-Nonconfirming


    “More teenagers are identifying as trans and gender non-conforming than previously thought, according to new research.

    “A new study published in Pediatrics analyzed a 2016 survey of almost 81,000 Minnesota teens, focusing on students in the 9th and 11th grade. The Associated Press reports that the study found that nearly 3 percent of the students surveyed identify as trans or gender non-conforming and don’t identify with the sex they were assigned at birth.

    “The study also found that these teenagers reported more mental and physical health issues than other teens. A study published in the same journal last year found that teenagers whose families support their transition and allow kids to present their gender identity have better mental health than those whose families do not. There are also high suicide and self harm rates among trans youth.”

    Sing it with me now…

    • PeteAtomic February 5, 2018 at 11:53 am #

      Teenagers can’t figure out what their favorite movie is from week to week, nonetheless some life changing part of their life such as gender.

      So, I would take this research very skeptically.

      • elysianfield February 5, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

        “So, I would take this research very skeptically.”

        I am sure that, of the research results, you need not be skeptical…rather be skeptical of the society and culture that allows those results.

        • PeteAtomic February 5, 2018 at 2:21 pm #

          well said

    • janet February 5, 2018 at 12:19 pm #

      About time a generation broke out of thr rigid binary and became gender fluid. I don’t feel threatened by freedom.

      • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

        Sounds like gender fluid is something you have gotten plenty of in your travels. Keep the penicillin close by at all times.

      • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 12:36 pm #

        Yeah, biology can be such a bitch sometimes!

        • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 1:04 pm #

          I should not be so hard on the old bat, after all I am gender fluid myself. Sometimes I am a man, and sometimes I am a woman, but when I am a woman I am always a Lesbian. That counts, right?

          • San Jose February 5, 2018 at 2:09 pm #

            My niece, who goes to college in Portland, told me she gets annoyed when some of the people she knows tell her that their gender changes depending on what kind of music they are listening to.

            I am not making this up.

            Jen in San Jose

          • aibohphobia February 5, 2018 at 5:40 pm #

            My brother is a lesbian trapped in a Man’s Body…

          • SpeedyBB February 6, 2018 at 9:48 pm #

            There has of recent times been some degree of concern about shapeshifters, now that you mention it.

            (Pace Carlos Castaneda…)

        • janet February 5, 2018 at 1:49 pm #

          Biology is not destiny.

      • PeteAtomic February 5, 2018 at 2:32 pm #

        These are kids. The article states around 2.7% of this study claims transgender. A cursory look online there of adult TS ppl in the US is around .06%. So, somewhere the majority of these kids realize that their biology is not mutable, and pick male or female.

        It means that they (throwing out another uncomfortable biological slang term here–) grow up. They figure it out.

        • outsider February 5, 2018 at 8:12 pm #

          Then, if you go by the propaganda, all the transgenders must be in the military. Do they all join to get taxpayer paid trans surgery, while the cis-genders are out doing the fighting and dying?

        • PeteAtomic February 6, 2018 at 4:09 pm #

          Green Alba

          Sorry I couldn’t reply right under your post there.

          Fascinating articles. 1% of the males in a remote village have that condition.

          Maybe you’ve missed my point or I haven’t written it cogently enough.

          Biology isn’t magic. You can not suddenly decide spontaneously that tomorrow your eye color will become black, even though its green. The same with your chromosomes & your sexual characteristics. You can not decide that tomorrow you will be a biological female, even though you are a biological male.

          Yes, there are genetic conditions and mutations, and human abnormality. However, these all have scientific causes, and are not based on a person’s subjective opinion, or some magical means somehow.

          I found this to be a particularly telling paragraph from one of the articles that you posted there:
          “A final interesting observation that Imperato-McGinley made was that these boys, despite being brought up as girls, almost all showed strong heterosexual preferences. She concluded in her seminal paper that hormones in the womb matter more than rearing when it comes to your sexual orientation.”

          • Elrond Hubbard February 6, 2018 at 4:48 pm #

            PeteAtomic, your framing of this issue seems unhelpful to me. You’re right that wishing doesn’t make it so. In particular, I agree with you that wishing to be a sex that’s different from your visible characteristics doesn’t make it so. But harping on that point doesn’t lead anywhere, because that’s not the real question.

            The real question begins with the observation that there are, in fact, people who appear to be one sex and feel themselves to be another; or, in some other way (e.g. changing from apparently-female to male around puberty) challenge the gender binary. People like this aren’t abstractions; they’re walking the earth alongside us. So the question is, what’s to be done in regard to them?

            There are several options. JHK’s preferred option is dismissal: they’re ‘sexually confused’, and therefore people of no account. It’s up to them to go away and stop bothering the rest of us. Another option is abuse and oppression: pass laws to tell them which bathrooms they may or may not use; turn a blind eye when bigoted and hateful people attack them for being different; etc. And a third option is to try to understand them. Know what’s useful for understanding things? Science. The more we understand, the more we can be of assistance.

            And being of assistance doesn’t mean changing them if they don’t want to be changed. That’s the same respect you, I or anyone has a right to expect in a free society. If non-binary people are happy just as they are, then helping them means modulating our own expectations, instead of visiting our expectations on people who didn’t ask to be as they are.

            The more I’ve come to understand the realities of biology, the more I personally have been impressed with the enormous complexity of even the simplest organisms, much less something as monumentally complex as a human being. If we accept the validity of science, then it behooves us to respect that complexity, not to insist that reality conform to our expectations. The gender binary, intuitive and obvious as it seems, is a mental shortcut. It’s a generalization that is pretty much always applicable, but real people don’t live in the ‘pretty much always’. Our friends and neighbours deserve our best effort to live with respect and understanding. Sometimes that includes adjusting our own expectations, instead of forcing those expectations upon someone else’s body and soul.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 9:19 pm #

            You yourself cautioned a fellow traveler that our species is obviously “strongly binary” just a few short weeks ago. Maybe you fear where they are taking us? You do well to do so.

            And yes, the incredible complexity of the cell – even ancient ones. Little factories. It doesn’t seem like evolutionary theory can account for it. Where are the simple life forms, the building blocks of the theory of traveling from matter to man?

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 8:46 am #

            “You yourself cautioned a fellow traveler that our species is obviously “strongly binary” just a few short weeks ago. Maybe you fear where they are taking us?”

            Where’s your logic, Janos? If our species is ‘strongly binary’, which it clearly is, that would seem to make your fears about ‘outliers’ simply paranoid, wouldn’t it?

          • PeteAtomic February 7, 2018 at 9:53 am #

            It’s the height of hypocrisy to only accept science in one field, but not the other.

            So, if you accept global climate change, which I certainly do, then you also ought accept biology.

            When people do this (cherry picking science) then it can only lead me to believe they have an axe to grind or some agenda.

            So, what’s the agenda? 🙂

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 11:34 am #


            I don’t know if you’re talking to me because you didn’t say.

            Yes, I accept the consensus of science on climate change.

            Yes, I’ll accept the consensus of biological evidence as well.

            I don’t have an agenda. Trans issues aren’t something I give much thought too. Maybe that makes me selfish, since I’m not trans myself. You’ll have noticed this is pretty much the first time I’ve said anything about it. I don’t know what you think I’ve said that contradicts science.

            Most people are clearly female or clearly male. Some people aren’t. Intersex people certainly aren’t. I don’t know how many aren’t because I take very little interest in it, so I’ll go with whatever good science there is. Nor do I know that much about what makes people who seem male or female feel they’re the opposite or something in between. I suspect science doesn’t either.

            But maybe you were talking to Elrond, who can answer for himself. I suspect he knows a lot more about it than I do. Like I say, it’s not a big thing for me, so having an agenda would be weird.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 2:58 pm #

            Living things can be twisted and blighted. Thus did Sauron create the Orcs: by tormenting Elves in his dungeons and breeding them with Goblins. And the young are most vulnerable: thus are many children made into homosexuals – by abuse by their elders.

            I remind you that most guys who put on women’s clothes have no intention of “transitioning”. And further – most aren’t Gay. Still comfortable? Why? You shouldn’t be….

          • Elrond Hubbard February 7, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

            Thanks, GreenAlba, I’ll tag in now. I don’t think I know all that much, though I take an interest in science in general. So for the sake of argument, let’s say PeteAtomic was addressing me and I’ll respond point by point.

            PA: “It’s the height of hypocrisy to only accept science in one field, but not the other.”

            I agree completely.

            PA: “So, if you accept global climate change, which I certainly do, then you also ought accept biology.”

            So far, so good! We are still in agreement. (For the record, I accept both.)

            PA: “When people do this (cherry picking science) then it can only lead me to believe they have an axe to grind or some agenda.”

            Aaaand you’ve lost me. Cherry picking science? Where and how did I do that? I honestly don’t get it — I was speaking very much in generalities.

            PA: “So, what’s the agenda?”

            The Vagenda of Manocide! To paraphrase Khan Noonien Singh, surely I have made my agenda plain. My agenda is to move the conversation from point A, which I consider to be unproductive, to a potentially productive point B.

            What’s Point A? The point where you insisted that wishing to be a different sex doesn’t make it so. I call that unproductive because it’s a patently obvious statement that no sensible person could disagree with, least of all me. But insisting on the obvious accomplishes nothing. I feel you are treating this as an end point, when it ought to be a starting point.

            So what’s point B? Recognizing the plight of trans and non-binary people and trying to understand how to be of assistance. This is where science comes in, because science helps us understand what is going on.

            Regarding GreenAlba’s article about the Guevedoce children of the Dominican Republic, high-school biology suggests that they inherited a Y chromosome from their fathers. (We all inherit an X chromosome from our mothers; whether we inherit an X or Y from dad determines whether we become female or male, respectively). Under normal circumstances this would make them manifest unambiguously male characteristics from birth — just as I did, and I’m presuming PeteAtomic did as well. But because their bodies don’t produce a certain enzyme, their development doesn’t take the usual course. Instead they begin by exhibiting the default characteristics for human children — which, because the X chromosome is always present, is to appear female. Their Y chromosome only begins to make itself felt because of the changes that come with puberty, and they change to exhibit male characteristics.

            That’s one case. There could be, and likely are, all kinds of other cases that could result in someone not taking the usual journey down exactly one path of sexual development or the other. For example, there could be (and are) people who look entirely male from the outside, but have the sense internally that they are female; or vice versa; or something behind door #3. Guess what, PeteAtomic — it’s all biology. All of it, including the parts that can be seen from outside (genitalia and secondary sexual characteristics) as well as parts that can’t (like brain development). I see no sign so far that you’re prepared to deal with this complexity; and I assure you that dealing with it isn’t contradictory or cherry picking, but recognizing what is in fact the case.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 5:07 pm #

            “I remind you that most guys who put on women’s clothes have no intention of “transitioning”. And further – most aren’t Gay. Still comfortable? Why? You shouldn’t be….”

            Why? Are they going to break into my house and eat my dog?

          • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 5:43 pm #

            No, as you well know, the issue is them having to use feminine public facilities.

            And in case you care, it means the end of Title Nine and Feminine Sports if it keeps going. Radical Feminists are up in arms about ALL of this. They get it. You don’t.

    • Q. Shtik February 5, 2018 at 1:29 pm #

      focusing on students in the 9th and 11th grade. – a quote from a study


      Why not 10th grade too? What is special about grades 9 and 11 but not 10?

    • It’s not like that 3% represents some kind or increase.

      Remember all the chemicals dumped in the air and water?

      Remember the frogs with multiple sets of genitalia?

      Maybe we asked for this, can maybe we caused this. In fact probably did.

      Minnesota for sure.

      But let’s be real. Gender is in fact fluid. It’s hard enough being born with cock & balls & a vagina without a sanctimonious bunch of retards banging on about what’s normal or natural.

      • Elrond Hubbard February 5, 2018 at 4:50 pm #

        Or passing laws to dictate to trans people that genitalia = identity, motivated by wildly exaggerated imaginary threats to children.

        • capt spaulding February 5, 2018 at 9:10 pm #

          You guys are confusing me now. I don’t even remember which one gets tied up anymore.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 9:21 pm #

          Pervs are the pits. And you want to give male pervs access to girls and women.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 8:36 am #

            Don’t go to France, Janos. Lots of cafes only have one toilet for everybody. They don’t all get in at once, though, and the toilet always has a door. Maybe people behave differently over your way.

            In my entire life I’ve come across, to my knowledge, two trans people in the flesh – both MtF. One in a patisserie in Lisbon and the other a few months ago on the top of Craiglockhart Hill, along the road from me. The latter (middle aged) one approached us for a chat about the ancient history of the area and was very knowledgeable. And yes, it was slightly strange talking to her because she still sounded very much like a man and looked fairly masculine too, despite the skirt and the lipstick. Human brains can be thrown slightly by the unexpected.

            Maybe she wasn’t transgender at all. Maybe he was just a cross dresser, like the charming and insightful Grayson Perry, whose wife and children don’t seem to mind his alter ego, Claire. Who knows? Who cares? We just had a chat and carried on back down the hill.

            Obviously where you live they’re under the beds and everywhere. Must be terrifying. Lock up your daughters…

            Here’s part of the dedication from the (surgeon) author of a transgender medicine and surgery book I was asked to work on a year or two ago:

            “This book is dedicated to my mother, ***********, who passed away recently. She taught me to accept everyone for who they are, to never judge, and to simply love thy neighbor. This early teaching enabled me to try to understand and to embrace all individuals, particularly those who are not in the mainstream and have faced external difficulties with their identity and gender expression. I have come to love and admire these individuals, and this has allowed me to care for them with compassion.”

            Compassion. Yes, that’s the word that’s always missing from your posts on just about anything.

            Middle English: via Old French from ecclesiastical Latin compassio(n- ), from compati ‘suffer with’.

            Empathy requires imagination and insight. Dogma and prejudice don’t help in the slightest.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:11 pm #

      And He actually think this is good. In a word, he’s an Anti-Nominalist or Anti-Natural Law. In common parlance, everything that is normal is bad. To quote Mick, All the cops are criminals, and all the criminals, saints. Thus the worship of illegal immigrants.

      I’ve always had a lot of trouble with consensus reality, but I never fell into this particular pit. Other pits perhaps….

      • Elrond Hubbard February 5, 2018 at 4:38 pm #

        Pits, eh? No, please… DO go on…

  27. amb February 5, 2018 at 11:48 am #

    Happening all over the world. A global Populist uprising in its infancy. Awareness is rising in many areas for the masses. The authoritarian government, big government, global government, high taxing government, violators of human rights and liberty government, etc. are all on their way out. Will take time. This is a parallel to the Magna Carta in response to monarchies.

    • Ol' Scratch February 5, 2018 at 12:03 pm #

      That’s the optimistic take. Be careful what you wish for, though. Populist uprisings are not known for being particularly choosy about whose blood gets let once the letting commences, and they’re particularly susceptible to outside infiltration, betrayal, and corruption, especially in today’s information age.

      • PeteAtomic February 5, 2018 at 2:39 pm #

        yeah, how true. Venezuela comes to mind.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:14 pm #

        As Finc’s hero (Stalin) said, the best way to deal with an opposition movement is to lead it. The Globos know what they are doing. And they got you folks eatin’ out of their hands. A strong 2nd amendment and rifles behind every glade of brass is the only thing they really fear.

        • PeteAtomic February 6, 2018 at 3:44 pm #

          I agree with you Janos, for once! ha ha 🙂

          As Stalin also said:…” ..we didn’t allow our enemies to have their guns, so why allow them to have their ideas?”

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 9:22 pm #

            The man was very good with words: “It takes a brave man not to be a hero in my army.”

  28. amb February 5, 2018 at 12:48 pm #

    Sounds like the voice of experience. You must’ve led the French Revolution back around the 5th or 6th of your previous lifetimes.
    (Joke. Then again… maybe not.)

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:16 pm #

      The Pussy hats? The French Revolutionaries wore red bonnets…..
      And the strangely dyed hair? That always arises as well. Ditto colored glasses. This has all happened before. It will all happen again. Do yourself a favor and get off the wheel, the wheel of pain….

  29. Mission Accomplished February 5, 2018 at 1:11 pm #

    “Has anyone else noticed how odd it is that the so-called “Resistance” has all along included the state security apparatus in its every sordid iteration — the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, and God knows how many others..”

    Best line I’ve ever seen written on this site

    • janet February 5, 2018 at 2:02 pm #

      Not odd. Some of our best patriots have infiltrated the deep state and are doing outstanding work to bring down the vulgar short-fingered fascist misogynist (“grab them by the pussy”) with a history of sexual assault and stiffing honest working tradesmen out of their pay. The deep state patriots will succeed.

      • hmuller February 5, 2018 at 6:35 pm #

        You raised an interesting point Janet, regarding how some of your “best patriots” have been infiltrating government, including the Intelligence Community. This must have taken decades. Surely Trump, a recent arrival, was not the motivation.

        Slipping in a few gratuitous barbs about pussy grabbing and denying someone his wages should not distract us from your main point – your admission of government penetration by agents with a hidden agenda to enslave the American people.

        You Janet, represent everything truly vile and loathsome in the world. You are the globalist boot of oppression stomping upon the face of humanity, upon personal freedom and dignity. You belong in a cage in GITMO along with your beloved infiltrators. If there is justice on earth you will be hunted down like the rabid animal you are..

      • Sean Coleman February 6, 2018 at 11:51 am #

        “with a history of sexual assault”

        That should read “alleged sexual assault”.

        Tell us which allegations you found particularly convincing. I looked at the time and found that none were. Not one. There was Jessica Lees. Was that the woman who said that Trump pawed her in the first class section of a plane? Her photo looks presentable but appearances can be deceptive. Then there was the lady whom the Guardian wrote a sympathetic, supportive article about. And they even made a short video. She had been so traumatized that she wrote to Trump for a job on his election campaign team. The others must have been standard me too boilerplate because they haven’t left a mark on my memory.

        But there is so much to remember. I read in the paper the other day that some famous actress (‘famous’ meaning one I have actually heard of) claimed that Weinstein tried to rape her. Many years ago, of course. And that some film director had tried to murder her. Doesn’t the second claim take the shine off the first one? Oh well, it seems they don’t have to even try to make it look convincing any more.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:20 pm #

      I have. Millions of fake revolutionaries who call themselves Social Justice Warriors. They get their marching orders from late night comedy shows. The higher ups study Critical Theory, Gender, Marxism, and Feminism. Some of them know they are being funded by Soros and the Foundations, but by that point they are so fucking crazy that they don’t even care. They have become Ahab, totally focused on killing the White Whale of White Male Patriarchy – also known as Western Civilization.

  30. JohnAZ February 5, 2018 at 2:39 pm #

    Deep State patriots, also known as authoritative wannabe dictators. What an oxymoron. This country was formed with the mindset that the people can rule themselves and can change their leadership every so often according to the political environment present. These Deep State socialists do not believe that the people are able to rule themselves. This argument has been going on since Washington mediated between Hamilton and Jefferson. I for one favor Jefferson’s viewpoint.

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    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

      Remember though, Jeff wouldn’t want most people voting. Only White Men with property. I agree with him, at least on the White and the Men part.

    • Q. Shtik February 5, 2018 at 5:47 pm #

      I for one favor Jefferson’s viewpoint. – John


      Which was what? That it was OK to boink the black womenfolk?

  31. michael February 5, 2018 at 2:48 pm #

    This is the age of confusion where you don’t know who you are, what you are, whence you came, where you are going or why you should continue to exist at all.

    All you know is that there is nothing you can know or believe.
    You must now make your own world and that you are ill equipped to do.

    The ground beneath you and all around you turns to liquid – the ultimate flood. A spinning vortex with no destination but much sound and fury.

    This condition is bound to last longer than you will live. There is no escape. Nothing to anchor yourself to. In random fashion some are pulled down while others thrown up, the unexpected rules and eventually all are ground to bits.

    Plans come to naught, preparations in vain, illusions destroyed.
    All that is disappears, what is to come nobody knows.

    That is what you all want. Now it seems that is what you will get.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 3:12 pm #

      Weisberg, is that you?

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:24 pm #

      During the Fire Bombing of Dresden, the pavements liquefied, trapping humans like bugs in amber. Evil Nazis? No, the good guys!

      • Q. Shtik February 5, 2018 at 6:15 pm #

        During the Fire Bombing of Dresden, the pavements liquefied, – Janos


        Not that it diminishes the horror but, count me a skeptic. Do concrete or cobblestones melt under application of extreme heat? Sources please.

      • outsider February 6, 2018 at 9:17 am #

        Kurt Vonnegut lived to tell the tale of Dresden in “Slaughterhouse 5.” He and several thousand other Americans were captured by the Germans and became POWs. He was lucky enough to survive the Dresden atrocity by the Allies and became an anti-war hero.

        One thing I wonder, if the Nazis were such bloodthirsty animals, wouldn’t they have just killed all the Americans? Eisenhower had no problem starving tens of thousands of defenseless, defeated Germans after the war, didn’t he?

      • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 9:22 am #

        Janos, I’m not a fan of carpet-bombing anywhere at all, but why do you always mention Dresden without mentioning the bombing of Coventry, for which it was allegedly revenge?

        “Aside from London, Hull and Plymouth, Coventry suffered more damage than any other British city during the Luftwaffe attacks, with huge firestorms devastating most of the city centre.”

        The nazis even had a word for what was done to Coventry and Dresden: Coventrieren.

        Thankfully, Coventry and Dresden are now twin towns, having effected a reconciliation and learned from the experience.



        Proper Christianity, not the perversion you espouse.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

          I made the mistake of clicking on your link and found this,

          Their work is demanding and diverse. It may focus on issues of politics, race, religion, economics, environment, sexual orientation or personal animosity. It can have broad and far-reaching, national consequences, or it can make significant difference to individual lives.

          as well as a picture of a priest who might a male, or a female, or Something Else. Obviously their reconciliation is just sexual perversion and turning Europe over to Islam. In other words, “We have to destroy the village in order to save it”, with Europe being the village.

          • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 1:22 pm #

            “Obviously their reconciliation is just sexual perversion and turning Europe over to Islam. In other words, “We have to destroy the village in order to save it”, with Europe being the village.”

            You have genuinely lost the plot, Janos. Even your own plot, which was lost enough to begin with.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 9:23 pm #

            Even the simplest metaphor is too much for you – since you don’t want to understand….

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 6:12 am #

            That’s right, Janos. Nothing to do with you talking your usual nonsense.

    • Q. Shtik February 5, 2018 at 5:27 pm #

      Nicely written, Mike. You have certainly captured the zeitgeist.

      For my part, I know what I’m going to do:

      As soon as the weather is right I’m going to take a long bike ride northward. The kind where at the end of a day I’m exhausted, have a nice meal, and sleep like a top.

    • aibohphobia February 5, 2018 at 6:09 pm #

      We DO live in an upside-down age of lies and delusions–
      You have a religion masquerading as a political movement (Communism), and a political movement masquerading as a religion (Islam);
      We think Fiat money is treasure, and we think Gold and Silver are barbarous relics;
      Farmers are poor instead of rich, and bureaucrats are rich instead of poor;
      All our politicians think they are actors, and all our actors think they are politicans–

      “Pretenders pretending not to pretend,
      Liars lying about not lying.
      Bitter the path that leads to the end–
      A madness only relieved by dying…”

  32. volodya February 5, 2018 at 3:09 pm #

    As JHK sez, everything is inside out, the opposite of what it’s presented as being.

    For example:

    Facts and evidence matter least to those same people that constantly tell us they value it most.

    Democrats hurl accusations of malfeasance that the Democrats themselves are guilty of.

    Law enforcement agencies do not enforce the law, they do the opposite, they obstruct the enforcement of the law, they cover up wrong-doing by powerful people they favor, they are the chief obstructers of justice.

    Those people that call themselves “progressive” are the opposite, they defend the prerogatives of the richest, they’re apologists for the economically regressive policies of the past two generations, especially those of “progressive” standard bearer Bill Clinton. And they excuse the most egregious law-breaking by the most wealthy and powerful by concocting the most preposterous excuses: “too big to jail” and “no criminal intent”. “Progressives” regularly express contempt for people in lower income brackets and defend their own positions in the caste system that they were complicit in creating.

    The judicial system isn’t impartial, it’s the opposite. Mob-justice prevails. Judges bestow favor and slant judgments to those in their own mob. If it wasn’t mob-justice, political parties wouldn’t contend as fiercely as they do for the right to make judicial nominations, especially to the Supreme Court.

    How many branches of government? Legislative, judicial, executive? No, the judicial branch legislates from the bench, it makes social policy, it tramples on the functions of the other branches by making up legalistic excuses, by reaching for justification in the constitution. The judicial branch should therefore be wary, for if it can stray outside its own boundaries into the functions of the other branches, the opposite can also happen. Actually, given the prevalence of politically based “justice” it’s already happened.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:26 pm #

      Progressives only support the poor if they are the right color – Not White in other words. Trained Seals raised to hate their own people. The triumph of class over organic society. People sure are “flexible”. Hilarious since Marx and Che thought so little of Blacks.

  33. capt spaulding February 5, 2018 at 3:12 pm #

    The fourth turning is looking more & more prescient. What we are witnessing are the death throes of the last dinosaur. What lies ahead? George Orwell said, if you want to know the future, picture a boot stamping on a human face forever.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

      I don’t know if that’s the same Weisberg I used to know in Odessa (the city and not the Nazi organization), but if he is, I could tell you right now he was not the brightest guy around the block.

      Once he bought from the local Gypsies the ruble-printing machine, and when it stopped printing anything at all after a few lousy shekels, he took it to the local Police station and filed a fraud complaint.

      And what do you know, he got charged with attempted currency counterfeit and it cost him quite a few pesos to get off the hook.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

      And you still believe in the dossier. You have done your part to make it real.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 3:48 pm #

        Janos, nobody believes in the dossier – it was the Dems fantasy porn mistakenly handed to the Judge.

        • outsider February 5, 2018 at 8:31 pm #

          Janet believes in it! As does charlatan Adam Schiff.

  34. volodya February 5, 2018 at 3:26 pm #

    Jen sez: My niece, who goes to college in Portland, told me she gets annoyed when some of the people she knows tell her that their gender changes depending on what kind of music they are listening to. I am not making this up.

    Jen, there was no reply button to your post. My ass their gender changes. What these people are is full of shit.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 3:30 pm #

      Two weeks of forced labor cleaning the streets and vegetable diet, and it will safely go away.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 3:33 pm #

      They are devolving. Gender is a social accomplishment attained by very young children, more or less based on biological roles. Instead of moving forward and transcending both biology and social mores, they are refusing the challenge and rotting away.

      Some very feminine women can take charge. Some very masculine men are comfortable with taking care of children and cleaning. They have transcended, not avoided.

      A very tiny percentage of people are biologically compromised. The theorists are using these unfortunates to wreck normal people. Very low people like this are not clearly masculine or feminine. While great people have the best psychological traits of both – without losing their identity at the lower levels of body and emotion.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 3:44 pm #

        In Russia, we call it extra fat madness.

        2 weeks of socially useful labor and it will be cured in a hurry.

        • elysianfield February 5, 2018 at 8:38 pm #

          “2 weeks of socially useful labor and it will be cured in a hurry”

          Komraden Finc,

          You need to make contact with Tibbs and his group…his sheepdogs will be the point of the bayonet!

    • San Jose February 5, 2018 at 11:20 pm #


      Exactly! I don’t know how and why the “reply” button appears below some postings and not others. Oy vey.


  35. Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 4:02 pm #

    -1,174 points. We won’t be seeing Q today. Is the fake bit coin economy strangling the real fake economy? Is this a harder coup to take down Trump? Or just the natural economic activity at the End of Days?

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    • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

      Just burning some extra fat, Janos, nothing to worry about.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 4:19 pm #

      Important thing is that the Bitcoin is flopping faster than the Dow Jones, and Bitcoin is the next best thing to the market valuation of the Deep State – if it were to be taken public (he, he – not a chance!)

      • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 8:11 pm #

        Ah, so. Well that’s one conspiracy that can be put to rest.

  36. ffkling February 5, 2018 at 4:46 pm #

    It finally happened on January 23, 2018. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service declared the eastern puma officially extinct, removing it from the Federal List of Endangered and Threatened Wildlife.

    And a big thanks to all you Republicons for your unwavering efforts to repeal and relegate to the trash bin of history the “job-killing” (versus the extinction of life on Earth, including the most Endangered Species Act. Republicons have vowed to eliminate the act prior to the end of President Dump’s first term.

    I have no doubt there’s a special place in the afterworld reserved for you. I can’t think of more deserving people.

    God bless you and God bless the USA.


    “Man has lost the capacity to foresee and to forestall. He will end by destroying the earth.”~~ Albert Schweitzer

    • tucsonspur February 5, 2018 at 4:54 pm #

      I am emphatically against Trump’s terrible environmental policies, glad you are too.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 7:49 pm #

      I’ve met people who they’ve seen them.

      • James Howard Kunstler February 5, 2018 at 11:21 pm #

        I know people who have seen mountain lions here in Washington County, NY, and in Essex County, where I had a cottage on an Adirondack lake for a few years. — JHK

        • Walter B February 5, 2018 at 11:46 pm #

          As have I and my wife here in Western New Jersey. When I told the guy across the street and he told his next door neighbor by saying that I was crazy he was told, “Of course he saw one you idiot, I see their prints down by my pond all the time”! In fact, the Hunterdon County Democrat, the local newspaper, ran a front page game camera picture of one a couple few years ago although they were “hesitant” about admitting it. My cousin claims that there was a road kill mountain lion lying in the median for about a week in Sparta on Route 15 in Sussex County a couple of years back. And a fellow CERT Team member and his Dad heard one while they were hunting in Holland Township last year.

          I am not so sure why people do not want to believe that such creatures exist when they are attacking and killing bikers and hikers in the hills of California even as we speak. To me it smacks of Watergate, the crime is not that big of a deal, it is the cover up that smells to high Heaven. I keep thinking back to Revelation 6:8 when this subject comes up, but that’s just me.

          • tucsonspur February 6, 2018 at 12:58 am #

            Their natural habitats are shrinking more and more. Human incursion and infringement. Where to go.

            If they had time, maybe they could evolve and take to the oceans, join the seals. Avoid being clubbed.

          • Walter B February 6, 2018 at 11:21 am #

            Perhaps natural ones are tusc, but a lot of us suspect that the Fish & Game people have been quietly importing them as a “solution” to the massive deer/auto problems we are all having in suburbia. It is purported that it was these same people that introduced the coyote/wolf hybrids here as well and that fact comes from the operator of the Wolf Preserve in Knowlton, NJ.

        • PeteAtomic February 7, 2018 at 9:47 am #

          People have seen cougars here in Minnesota for years, and our “DNR”– which is a version of ranger and conservation officer and police officer all rolled into one here (actually the most powerful law enforcement agency in our state, but that’s a different story) continues to deny they even exist here publicly. People even report them in urban areas, and the DNR continues to say they don’t exist.

    • elysianfield February 5, 2018 at 8:43 pm #

      “It finally happened on January 23, 2018. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service declared the eastern puma officially extinct, removing it from the Federal List of Endangered and Threatened Wildlife.”

      I would be glad to have sent to you a large number of our mountain cats…they are common where I live…so common that the hunting season for them is…365 days a year. Puma/Cougar/Mountain Lion…give it a name….

  37. tucsonspur February 5, 2018 at 4:50 pm #

    “The memo lays it out that the very top law enforcement officials knowingly used manufactured information to convince a court to give them warrants to spy. Warrants to in effect frame and blackmail political opponents.

    So, either the FBI told the court the source of their information, or they did not. The best FBI can do is come forward and prove that they did indeed yessiree inform the court that the source of their paid info came from the Hillary campaign and so the criminal here is also the FISC judge(s) that allowed this criminal charade to occur.

    The memo also makes clear that the Mueller probe is based on manufactured fraud.

    What should happen next is very simple. Those that argued before the court and those that have lent their signature to this FRAUD should stand for criminal charges….”

    I’m wondering if a case of fraud could actually be proven according to strict legal requirements. I’m also wondering who would prosecute.

    We seem to be lost in a frightening political dilemma, where the enemy is either unseen or untouchable. A good example of the dilemma of democracy. The structure now appears too fragile and futilitarian to survive and function effectively.

    The wheels of government are spinning furiously in the mud, and they’re splattering the public with so much muck they can’t find any answers. No torque and no traction.

    Is what Obama and Hillary did in 2015 and 2016 anything less than an attempted coup? Yeah, the pen is mightier than the sword, you can always do the fraud.

    Trump must be bold and decisive. It’s war. Let’s win it.

    Hail the Geriatric Gareth of Gotham!

    • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 5:06 pm #

      I’m wondering if a case of fraud could actually be proven according to strict legal requirements

      Should be a no-brainer even for community college graduate who flunked the bar exam.

      Just have the FISA Judge subpoena and put himself under the oath. In legalese that procedure is called “go judge yourself!”.

      • tucsonspur February 5, 2018 at 5:18 pm #

        Forget the old saying, “judge not, lest ye be judged.”

    • akmofo February 5, 2018 at 6:34 pm #

      Lee Stranahan About The Nunes Memo And The Russian Investigation


      This smells so badly of KGB tactics it’s not even funny. Trump is going to figure this out sooner or later, if he hasn’t already.

      In the meantime, Turkey shot down a second Russian fighter plane over Syria. The Turkish armed forces are now inside Syria facing Assad and Putin.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 5, 2018 at 7:54 pm #

        Check you sources, Mofo. Russian plane was shot down by Al Nusra, group “Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham”, and these guys report to Hillary, not to Erdogan.

        • akmofo February 5, 2018 at 8:09 pm #

          Yes, that’s the official line. Al Nusra,engaged the pilot in a firefight on the ground. But Al Nusra doesn’t have the means to shoot down Russian planes, Turkey does.

          • FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 2:06 am #

            In our days “stingers” are dime-a-dozen. You could get one in good condition on Cherkizon market (Just don’t buy any hydrogen bombs there – mostly fake, but vacuum bombs are pretty good).

            It’s a wonder we still have a civil aviation.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 5, 2018 at 7:52 pm #

      Yes, let’s. A preemptive strike: hundreds of arrests at the break of dawn. Mobilization of all loyal National Guard units. De-Mob of the more mob like units from the Urban areas. Martial Law. Control of all major media until the crisis has passed.

  38. tucsonspur February 5, 2018 at 5:03 pm #

    The Kap, and more Democracy in action:

    http://nation.foxnews.com/2018/02/05/kaepernick-raises-20k-celebrity-donations-group-honoring-convicted-cop-killer (Chesimard)

  39. tucsonspur February 5, 2018 at 5:08 pm #

    If only Schumer and Pelosi were so devoted:


  40. tucsonspur February 5, 2018 at 5:11 pm #

    More of democracy in action or, “Adios America!”


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    • outsider February 6, 2018 at 9:40 am #

      Score another one for the wonders of diversity.

  41. Being There February 5, 2018 at 5:49 pm #

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Trump White House Weighing Plans for Private Spies to Counter “Deep State” Enemies
    The Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering “deep state” enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Donald Trump’s presidency.
    The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration’s political agenda.
    “Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,” said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. “It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books,” this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community. “The whole point is this is supposed to report to the president and Pompeo directly.”


  42. vanman February 5, 2018 at 6:17 pm #

    I’ve recently read about Adolf Hitler attempting to “influence “ the election in favor of Wendell Wilkie & the Soviets trying to do a bit to get JFK elected. We’ve endeavored to do the same in other countries. Didn’t BHO have an oporative openly work to help Tony Blair?

  43. JohnAZ February 5, 2018 at 7:13 pm #

    The memo. The dossier. I am so sick of hearing the lies of both sides relative to the election of 2016.

    A very basic question emerges from all the diatribe. America stands for free and open elections, or at least it used to. Free and open means that all viewpoints are open for debate. Russia tried to influence the election, so? Israel put in their two cents worth as did England, remember Brexit? No one tried to influence the election with nefarious means as much as the Democratic Party. The GOP did their best too and that is as it should be, all parties should have access to the political process. It is interesting that Trump pounded all the above to get to the Presidency. The question is why? Maybe because I am not the only one who is sick of all the BS that D.C. Throws at the American people.

    Ol’ Scratch. Your comment on management is right on. Observing many managements has given me this:

    The greatest misconception about management is that it exists.

    • outsider February 5, 2018 at 8:56 pm #

      “America stands for free and open elections.”

      Really? How about asking the Greens, the Libertarians, the Constitutionalists, etc what they think about that. Ross Perot was the last third party candidate who was allowed into our presidential debates, and it wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t a billionaire. When he got 19% of the vote in 1992 it made both of our dinosaur parties squirm. Since then they have tightened requirements to get on the ballot and into the debates even more. They’ll do everything within their power to prevent another Perot from happening again. They don’t do free and fair.

  44. StillFarmin February 5, 2018 at 8:09 pm #

    Ahh, another entry in the ‘I hate Hillary more than you ever will’ sweepstakes. So pervasive lately in low-click blogsylvania.

    It isn’t exactly breaking news that vitriolic disappointment in whatever that thing we used to call the Democratic Party is has been the backdrop for much of the crap we swim in these daze in the USA … but:

    “the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, and God knows how many others among the touted “seventeen security agencies” who supposedly ginned up the Russian Meddling story on behalf of the Democratic National Committee”.

    “Supposedly” “ginned up” ?

    Really? The Democrats – led apparently by Republican Robert Mueller – are running the Deep Police State?

    Just take your word for it?

    Jim, you should have just crowed about the high single digit percent drop in equity markets this week and left it at that – after all, you’ve been waiting a decade!

    Cheers, mate …

    • tucsonspur February 6, 2018 at 2:02 am #

      Just scrawl on the stall.

  45. janet February 5, 2018 at 8:55 pm #

    I’ve been saying Trump is going to crash the economy. Today the Dow fell 1,100 points for its largest single-day point decline ever. Thank you, Mr. Trump!

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    • outsider February 5, 2018 at 9:07 pm #

      Only an idiot thinks that the President controls the stock market. A few day blip means nothing. A correction was long overdue anyway, and it would not surprise me if it goes lower before coming back up again.

      Anyway, Janet, I’m glad the market crash made you happy. Did you send the president a thank-you card?

    • akmofo February 5, 2018 at 9:32 pm #

      Not the stock market, Janet, but the US dollar. That means you want to be positioned in Canadian commodity stocks. You’ll benefit both from Canadian currency appreciation and commodity price appreciation.

      • janet February 5, 2018 at 10:28 pm #

        I benefit from a weak dollar, akmofo. I’m grateful to Trump for weakening the US. Blue wave coming midterm 2018 elections democratic control of house and senate impeachment bye bye Trump.

        • BackRowHeckler February 6, 2018 at 1:22 am #

          Then what, Little Jane?

          Deep Personal Fulfillment?


          A New Utopia?

          Or all 3?


        • akmofo February 6, 2018 at 4:56 pm #

          So do the American corporation that sell you their crap.

  46. janet February 5, 2018 at 9:01 pm #

    The House Intelligence Committee voted unanimously Monday evening to make public the Democratic memo rebutting GOP allegations that the FBI abused surveillance laws, the committee’s top Democrat said, a move that will put the issue back on President Donald Trump’s desk this week.

    That means all the Republicans voted for releasing the Democratic memo, and all the Democrats joined the Republicans. Unanimous.

    Ball is in your court, Donald. The Trump-Nunez memo has officially backfired!

    • hmuller February 5, 2018 at 9:48 pm #

      Your own comments prove what a vacuous mind you have, Janet!

      1) If all Republicans joined the Democrats on the committee and voted to release the Demo rebuttal memo, that demonstrates a devotion to fair mindedness and a search for balance and truth. Something entirely lacking in your Saul Alinsky, cultural Marxist addled brain pan.
      2) How in the world could this be interpreted as backfiring? Many more documents will be coming out, including the DOJ Inspector General’s. Spin it all you like, avoid the substance and damning info all you like. Your evil cabal of globalist pedophiles is coming down.

      And don’t even begin to threaten us, Janet. The armed forces, law enforcement, and gun owners of America will stand behind Trump. You and Rachel Maddow can practice giving each other butch haircuts at GITMO.

      • BackRowHeckler February 5, 2018 at 9:51 pm #

        Rachel Maddow, quintessential North Hampton dike.

  47. BackRowHeckler February 5, 2018 at 9:50 pm #

    If you want to see how very deep the hatred is for white, working class Americans, Brits who voted for Brexit, Donald Trump, and Germans and Austrians who object to massive Muslim immigration into their countries, read the American edition of the Financial Time of London for about a week. Its astonishing.

    To their utter surprise a monkey wrench has been thrown into the machinery of globilization. And everything was going so swimmingly, too. They are not happy. Well, the peasants have to be taught a lesson, and the elitists in Davos, Brussels, London, Manhattan, Hollywood, and Washington DC are just the ones to do it.

    First thing, the head of the snake must be cut off, (and they’re working on that now) then these New Kulaks in Europe and North America can be dealt with accordingly. (“We will rub their noses in their nationalism”)


    • tucsonspur February 5, 2018 at 10:24 pm #

      And someone also said they’ll rub the Right’s nose in Diversity.

      Anyway, Putin once said, referring to terrorists, “if we find them in the toilet, we’ll wipe them out in the outhouse.”

      We’ll need Trump to act quickly. A chance he may not be reelected, so better to act now. Take full control now. The Left are terrorists, intent on destroying America.They’re half way in the shithouse already, so let’s give them a shove, close the door, flush the toilet and wipe them out.

      • tucsonspur February 6, 2018 at 1:03 am #

        Ooops! Forget the last part of that last line.

      • janet February 6, 2018 at 10:55 am #

        “so let’s give them a shove, close the door, flush the toilet and wipe them out.” –tucsonspur hallucinating

        In your dreams. Blue wave unstoppable. Impeachment imminent. Re-election a pipe-dream.

    • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 7:31 am #


      I don’t even read the London version of the FT, but I’m curious to know how Brexit harms globalisation. The Brexit leaders (Johnson, Hannan, Davis, Rees-Mogg et al) have very specific plans for a new global future for the UK, wherein it is going to relive its destiny of previous centuries and become a bastion of global free trade, without those pesky EU officials making working conditions any better than they need to be. No working time directives, no health and safety directives, no food safety directives, no environmental directives. How is that going to benefit the white working class? Rees-Mogg was the one who said if Indian regulations were good enough for India, why weren’t they good enough for the UK. Hey nonny nonny -let’s race to the bottom…

      Back to the dirty beaches we had before the EU chased the UK endlessly for not keeping sewage residues away from them? More people suffering (and dying) from respiratory diseases because of polluted air? The air’s bad enough now in big cities – wait till the government has repatriated all those EU laws with its ‘Henry VIII powers’.


      The banks won’t lose out. Some will move headquarters and jobs to Paris or Frankfurt, which are salivating as they count the new Euros coming their way, others even to New York or Hong Kong. The white working class will lose the tax revenues that will go with them, which currently help support the NHS and other public services. (It’s certainly not my choice to see an economy that’s so heavily weighted on the side of financial services and weapons sales, but I don’t think it’s particularly sensible to throw out your financial services industry BEFORE having something more real to replace it with that still pays taxes. We have a national debt not far short of £2 trillion and the UK’s credit rating has gone down since the Brexit vote so it’s costing more to borrow).

      If taxes from the financial services industry aren’t there to keep the deficit under control, then cuts in welfare to the white working class will have to do it instead. The Brexit ideologues of the Tory party are just the men to do it (white but not working class, naturally). Most benefits paid now (leaving aside the very modest state pension) are in-work benefits paid to low-income families, most of whom are white working class.

      The weapons industry will probably do fine, though, given how much it sells to the Saudis. I’m sure Duterte will be happy to sign up too and Liam Fox has been over there already spouting about ‘shared values’. Pass the sick bucket.

      Sadly the other area where the UK does extremely well, scientific and medical research, will lose many of its best brains and best projects to Europe, since joint European co-operation has been a vital part of its achievements. More shrinking activity, more taxes lost, more international standing gone… The car industry (not my favourite, but it puts food on the table for now for the white working class in the NE of England who voted for Brexit) depends on foreign investment and is only here at all because of the lack of restrictions in moving components around Europe.

      Still, the white working class will be entitled to blue passports again, as Nigel promised them. Except that the UK always had the right to blue passports anyway – and it’s costing them a lot more to go anywhere because of the drop in the value of sterling the second the result came in. Their food is costing them more too, for the same reason – that’s hurting a lot more.

      Also, there’s been a 85-90% drop in the number of nurses coming to work from the EU, because they don’t feel welcome any more and would naturally prefer to move to another EU country where they can make a future. The NHS is now desperately short of nurses.


      “NHS to hire more than 5,000 nurses from India and the Philippines”. Hahahaha… Now I’m sure THAT was just what the Brexiters wanted, but if they’d used their brains they’d have seen it coming. The rest of us did. Easier to shout about ‘taking back control’, though. Yes, it would be great if we could train enough nurses in the UK, but that would mean spending money that we won’t have because of the brain drain and the loss of tax revenues. You really couldn’t make this stuff up. What’s that you’re saying, Boris, £350 million a day extra for the NHS????? More like setting the NHS up to make a nice meal for the slobbering American healthcare ‘industry’, which was always the plan.

      Why do people think globalisation is hurt by Brexit? Globalisation will carry on doing fine until it doesn’t – but it won’t be Brexit that does it any harm. Post-Brexit Britain will be proudly global, albeit in a more proudly raggedy way than before. Brexit is only going to do harm to Britain and, first and foremost, to the working and potentially working class. Bankers can live anywhere.

      • RobH February 6, 2018 at 9:00 am #

        That’s a pretty good analysis! …sadly

      • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 12:21 pm #

        Sometimes you seek to teach and other times you seek to confuse. I’m not sure you even know when you are doing one and not the other. Now I’m not up on exactly what Nigel and Co want for Britain, but they do want immigration decreased and that’s a good start.

        Globalists act like there was no international trade before Globalism became an ideology. As if Nations have to cease in order for there to be trade. Now obviously the existence of nations and their various strictures, limitations, tariffs, languages and customs DO get in the way of “free” trade and profits. But who cares what people like that want? The Cell Wall keeps most things OUT after all. And the Japanese are global players despite their absolute refusal to sell out their own people.

        I’m afraid you’d only get it if your public housing was taken away in order to make room for some of the new people. Or since you own, perhaps one of your friends or relatives who don’t.

        • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 12:58 pm #

          I’m not a globalist, Janos. I am just aware of both the advantages and disadvantages of globalism. Globalism will still exist if the EU magically disappears tomorrow. The majority of my colleagues who lost their jobs over the years lost them to other parts of the UK and to India, which is not, to my knowledge, in the EU. Our Indian colleagues are nice, BTW – I’m sure they don’t mean to do us harm. Some of them have visited and we have entertained them.

          The UK does not have to cease to exist as a nation state in order to trade with whomsoever it pleases. The Brexiters have been going on at great length about trading with China post-Brexit, while ignoring the fact that Germany trades far more with China already.

          “Now I’m not up on exactly what Nigel and Co want for Britain,
          but they do want immigration decreased and that’s a good

          You certainly aren’t, are you, Janos? Anyway, please make your mind up. Is the UK to invite more nurses from India and the Philippines because fewer wish to come from the EU, or not? Given that we currently can’t make up the shortfall within our borders and won’t be able to in the foreseeable future. To me, it makes sense to have people come from the EU. I’d have thought India and the Philippines could spare them less, so that would be my choice.

          “Now obviously the existence of nations and their various
          strictures, limitations, tariffs, languages and customs DO get
          in the way of “free” trade and profits. But who cares what
          people like that want?”

          I don’t care particularly what they want either, Janos. I care more about those car workers in Sunderland who voted Brexit while working for Nissan, who will close their factory if they can’t export and import components in a frictionless fashion between the various EU countries contributing to the end product of an actual car. I lived a long time in the north-east of England, about 20 miles from Sunderland. Sunderland was grim and lacking opportunities even before Nissan moved in. But you feel free to wish for those jobs to go if you feel like it, all in the name of your ideology. Sunderland isn’t full of immigrants – it’s full of salt-of-the-earth almost-Geordies. Who are going to lose jobs, post-Brexit, with all the irony that unfortunately entails.

          “I’m afraid you’d only get it if your public housing was taken
          away in order to make room for some of the new people. Or
          since you own, perhaps one of your friends or relatives who

          Janos, I’ve asked you before to stop making up utter nonsense about people having their housing taken away and given to other people. It’s not only untrue, it’s beyond ridiculous. And it proves you live in a fantasy world, if such proof were even needed.

          There’s very little public housing left, thanks to Maggie Thatcher selling it off back when I was working for the Scottish Special Housing Association in the 80s. She did it in the hope of manufacturing a property-owning, Tory-voting base.

          • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 1:26 pm #

            “The UK does not have to cease to exist as a nation state in order to trade with whomsoever it pleases.”

            Sorry, that should have been ‘the UK does not have to leave the EU to be a nation state trading with whomsoever it pleases’.

            It is a nation state within the EU, as are the other EU-27.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 9:28 pm #

            Yes, I remember you boasting about how nice you were to a brown co-worker. OF COURSE you were (points!). I have no doubt of it! The real question is how you would treat a poor White co-worker or a Brexiteer.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 9:30 pm #

            The EU forces excessive and inappropriate immigrants on its member states. That’s why Brexit happened. I asked you before how you differed from Brussels since you said you did. You never answered, or at least not last time I checked.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 6:22 am #

            “The EU forces excessive and inappropriate immigrants on its member states. That’s why Brexit happened.”

            Are you talking about internal immigrants or ex-EU immigrants? You haven’t clarified.

            If it’s ex-EU immigrants coming via the EU-27, you seem to be suggesting that Brexit voters didn’t know the UK wasn’t and isn’t in Schengen. Is that what you’re saying?

            If it’s internal migrants from the other EU-27, the UK was never obliged to keep them here if they hadn’t found work within a given number of months. It was the UK that declined to use its options.

            And if you’re talking about immigrants coming directly from non-EU countries, what has that do do with the EU? It’s well established that the previous Home Secretary (Theresa May) didn’t have proper records kept about ex-EU immigrants and didn’t control numbers as promised. Nothing whatever to do with the EU. And more came from outside the EU than from inside.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 9:14 am #

            “Yes, I remember you boasting about how nice you were to a brown co-worker. OF COURSE you were (points!). I have no doubt of it! The real question is how you would treat a poor White co-worker or a Brexiteer.”

            I don’t get points for anything, Janos – you show your intellectual poverty when you stoop to talking like that. I don’t get points for not owning a car either.

            The only poor-ish co-workers we had when I worked in-house were the cleaners, who came in in the early evening. I was often there so chatted to them more than most. They were Polish. I don’t even know if they were poor – probably not, as they tended to have several jobs. They gave me a box of slightly unusual Polish chocolates one day because the previous evening one of them got stuck in the lift and I phoned around the world and his wife to sort out her escape and waited with them till after 9pm until the designated person came round to fix the lift.

            But then I’d have done that for anyone, even you. Anything else I need to get points for?

          • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

            Very little? Seems you were wrong about that as well according to Wikipedia. I’ve learned you can’t be relied upon except for spelling and grammar. You’re just too passionate to be clear about things. Too big an agenda. As if it matters to the beleaguered Britons where they’re invaders come from or if their replacements have been processed by the EU!

            Public housing in the United Kingdom provided the majority of rented accommodation in the country until 2011. Houses built for public or social housing use are built by local authorities and collectively known as council houses. Before 1865, housing for the poor was provided solely by the private sector. Council houses were built on council estates, where frequently other amenities like schools and shops were provided. From the 1950s, blocks of flats and three- or four-storey blocks of maisonnettes were widely built too. Flats and houses were also built in mixed estates.

            Council homes were built to supply uncrowded, well-built homes on secure tenancies at reasonable rents to primarily working-class people. Public housing in the mid-20th century included many large suburban “council estates”[1] and numerous urban developments featuring tower blocks. Many of these developments did not live up to the hopes of their supporters, and now suffer from urban blight.

            In 1979, the role of council housing was to change. Housing stock has been sold off through Right to Buy legislation, and new social housing has mainly been developed and managed by housing associations. A substantial part of the UK population still lives in council housing: in 2010, about 17% of UK households. Approximately 55% of the country’s social housing stock is owned by local authorities – of which 15% is managed on a day-to-day basis by arms-length management organisations, rather than the authority, and 45% by housing associations.[2] In Scotland, council estates are known as schemes

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

            In what way is 17% of housing a lot? It used to be way over 50% in Scotland.


            “The number of council homes in Britain has fallen to a new record low, with fewer properties to rent from local authorities than at any point in almost 50 years, analysis of official data by The Independent has revealed.

            “Stock of council houses across England, Scotland and Wales has dropped to just two million and has now more than halved in the last 20 years, according to new government statistics. The figures do not include Northern Ireland because it stopped collecting the data in 2014.

            *More than 170,000 council homes have been lost since 2010 alone*.”

            Your 2010 information is out of date. 2 million council properties. There are 65 million people in the UK. You can call 2 million a lot if you want to.

  48. 100th Avatar February 5, 2018 at 11:31 pm #

    Agony is the expectation of better
    From man

    “As far as I am concerned, I resign from humanity. I no longer want to be, nor can still be, a man. What should I do? Work for a social and political system, make a girl miserable? Hunt for weaknesses in philosophical systems, fight for moral and esthetic ideals? It’s all too little. I renounce my humanity even though I may find myself alone. But am I not already alone in this world from which I no longer expect anything?” -Cioran

    • K-Dog February 5, 2018 at 11:39 pm #

      Always we rebel. Be glad you are not yet a revenant.

    • tucsonspur February 6, 2018 at 1:40 am #

      I bet he didn’t own a cat.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 12:24 pm #

      Why was he writing then if he Really felt that way? He was trying to make money on existential angst and anomie. Or that may be too cynical – maybe he was trying to survive by writing about his inner agony.

      • K-Dog February 8, 2018 at 10:51 am #

        Perhaps he is smart enough to realize that by writing his own thoughts down he can examine himself and understand who and what he is?

        It works for some people, not all.

  49. pequiste February 6, 2018 at 12:52 am #

    Quandry? What quandary?

    The high-minded of both political parties, of course, want what’s best for America, well don’t they? Cue John “Brain Rot” McCain for a response here.

    The State’s security apparatus is busy protecting the U.S.A!, U.S.A!, U.S.A!, and its citizens, residents and illegal aliens, from themselves. Why wouldn’t a fabricated bit of gossip be adequate justification for a FISA court wiretap? Let’s ask Andy McCabe”s opinion on the matter. All those Senior Executive Service types always had a ready smooth answer, as well as big plans for lunch when I was kind of close to the Mandarin establishment.

    And the legacy media only want to get the real information to the people.

    The big lesson here is that this time it IS different. Can only hope jail or better for the miscreants responsible for shitting the bed.

    And speaking of shitting the bed…
    stock markets are going to the basement as the phony baloney from Wall Street is now front and center, along with the Bitcoin bullshit. And hold on when the bond market coughs up its gigantic hairball.
    JHK’s prediction of Dow 4000 could be in the cards this time. It’s going to be a whopper of a correction. Maybe even a depression.

    It is a great time to be alive: to be able to see the Lie exposed for what it is: the Truth.

    ( Buy the dip)

    • tucsonspur February 6, 2018 at 1:33 am #

      I already did, but it’s all gone after the game. But thanks.

      It is different this time, big time. What do those FISA hearings’ transcripts hold? If anything at all now, capable of accurate disclosure. What else is out there?

      McCabe, McCain, the guy whose really blowing my brain now is Adam Schiff, and I don’t mean the late Law and Order DA.

      I say it’s time for Trump to strike in unconventional fashion.

      • janet February 6, 2018 at 2:18 am #

        “the guy whose really blowing my brain now is Adam Schiff” –tucsonspur

        You mean because he has a ten-point Democratic MEMO countering everything in the fake Trump-Nunez memo? Or because of the unanimous vote that the Democratic MEMO should be released?

        • outsider February 6, 2018 at 9:51 am #

          BRING IT ON, Janet!

  50. janet February 6, 2018 at 1:26 am #

    “Only an idiot thinks that the President controls the stock market.” –outsider

    Only an idiot takes credit for the stock market going up.

    “Unprecedented success for our Country, in so many ways, since the Election. Record Stock Market” –Donald J. Trump

    “Record fastest 1000 point move in history. This is all about the Make America Great Again agenda!” –Donald J. Trump

    “If the Dems (Crooked Hillary) got elected, your stocks would be down 50% from values on Election Day.” –Donald J. Trump

    “Stock market at an all-time high. That doesn’t just happen!” –Donald J. Trump


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  51. tucsonspur February 6, 2018 at 1:55 am #

    Hail the Great Ghibeline Ghost of Gotham!

    Attempted coups d’ etat have consequences!

    Arrest Obama and Hillary and all their corrupt, fawning, traitorous toadies!

    MAGA not MAKA.

  52. janet February 6, 2018 at 2:27 am #

    Trump is crashing the USA economy. Trump passed a tax bill that blew a $1.5 Trillion dollar hole in the economy. Then the Dow plummeted more than 1,800 points over two trading sessions.

    Monday February 5 was particularly brutal: the index tumbled a record 1,175 points. Dow futures slumped more than 400 points, or 1.7%, early Tuesday morning Feb. 6, suggesting the turmoil of the past few days is set to deepen. Earlier in the night, they were down more than 800 points.

    Trump and his biggest boosters have frequently touted the performance of stock indices as evidence of the success of his slash-and-burn approach to tax policy and industry regulation.

    “The reason our stock market is so successful is because of me,” Trump said in November. “I’ve always been great with money, I’ve always been great with jobs, that’s what I do. And I’ve done it well, I’ve done it really well, much better than people understand and they understand I’ve done well.”

    Ummm, no, you had six bankruptcies and now you are crashing the USA economy. LIVE BY THE DOW, DIE BY THE DOW. BLUE WAVE GATHERING.

    • outsider February 6, 2018 at 10:07 am #

      To clarify some of my prior comments, I only support Trump on certain things. I’ve never been a Trump-bot. That HUGE tax reduction was insane, and will come back to bite us in the ass Big Time. Trump was stupid for taking credit for the market going way up, when he knows damn well that he’ll then have to take the blame when it goes down.

      As for the market tanking, Michael Savage, on his radio show, puts the blame on Janet Yellen. On her way out as Fed chair, she raised interest rates and said the market was too high. And Savage said that the “Resistance” will do ANYTHING to get Trump out of office, even if they have to tank the economy to do it.

    • Q. Shtik February 6, 2018 at 10:21 am #

      “The reason our stock market is so successful is because of me,” Trump said in November. “I’ve always been great with money, I’ve always been great with jobs, that’s what I do. And I’ve done it well, I’ve done it really well, much better than people understand and they understand I’ve done well.” – janet quoting Trump


      Personally, I would not say such things about myself even if they were true. Immodesty is a repulsive personal trait.

      • elysianfield February 6, 2018 at 10:51 am #

        Could you not say that “politics” is the essence of immodesty”

        • Q. Shtik February 6, 2018 at 11:33 am #

          Yes, agreed.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 12:29 pm #

        You’ve jointed the upper class. Not talking about money is their personal religion. Trump is a Barbarian – exactly what we needed. You think you are too good to leap from table to table at a feast! Or to kneel and pray to HE who created you. Or did you create yourself? Buy a body? Prove it – show me the receipt.

        • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 1:35 pm #

          “You’ve jointed the upper class.”

          Are we invited to a barbecue?

          “Or did you create yourself? Buy a body? Prove it – show me the receipt.”

          Is this what American education does to people?

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 9:34 pm #

            A slip of the finger, Greenie. Really, this is beneath you. I expect real spelling and grammatical correction, not obvious slip ups. As for the rest, I don’t expect a materialist like you to get it.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 6:23 am #

            I like a joke, Janos, that’s all. And if you offer me one, I’ll take it, thanks.

  53. FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 2:42 am #

    Everyone went completely crazy –
    Even who was insane already,
    And then the shrink-in-chief Margulies
    Cut the news cable

    Finca reporting from the nuthouse.

    Putin to Trump: My Deep State is Deeper than Yours!

    For some insane reason Americans are sure that they hold a copyright to a “Deep State”.

    Gowdy: Memo has no impact on Russia probe

    Rep. Trey Gowdy said the recently released, controversial GOP memo alleging FBI abuses of its surveillance authority does not have “any impact on the Russia probe,” and even without the Steele dossier, there would be a Russia investigation.


    Nunes’ interview, showed that his memorandum, as expected, is the tip of the Weisberg (Iceberg), and the underwater part of the Weisberg(Iceberg), is so huge that I’ve been scouring the Internet for 6 hours trying to find confirmation of Nunes’ hints, and as a result I find irrefutable confirmation of my long-standing suspicions of which I had a mystical precognition many years ago.

    In particular, in addition to the memorandum, he accused Hillary Clinton of cooperating with Russian intelligence, and I first realized that these accusations are not the kind “you too” accusations that she makes quite officially against Donald Trump, but the very conscientious statements of a very informed man whose duty is to control all American intelligence and counterintelligence.

    It is another matter that, with the closest examination of the Nunes’ words, this Russian intelligence service, with which Hillary Clinton collaborated, was the organizer of anti-Putin protests in 2011-2012, known as the revolution of the pussy fur coats, the ritual sacrifice-assassination of Boris Nemtsov and the liquidation of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

  54. tucsonspur February 6, 2018 at 3:16 am #

    Another view of the intelligence behemoth:

    5 corporations dominate privatized intelligence.


  55. FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 4:46 am #

    Unfortunately last month my back hurt so much that I could not write normally, but now the pain has started to decrease and I will try to make up for lost time, especially since the situation begins to acquire certainty.

    With these thoughts in mind, I went to the diner, and then it began: yesterday, the Dow Jones collapsed by 1175 points, and around this event Hillary Clinton’s fingerprint are all over.

    That’s right, President Trump, you yourself boasted of economic growth, even used it to enhance the effect of the Nunes’ memorandum – “see, the good people how they’re belittling your president, who provided such remarkable economic growth.”

    “And here is no growth and Dow returned to the level at which it was before your tax reform, Mr. President, and you will have to answer questions from the special prosecutor Mueller!”

    The Flying Monkeys had a real party yesterday, when Trump performed in Cincinnati, and his speech on the remarkable growth of the economy was accompanied by a picture of the falling Dow Jones plastered all over the CNN screen.

    Only it was a trap, Democratic “gentlemen”, because the whole country saw your party and now you will have to answer questions about the similarity of the current situation with 2008 when Hillary confessed during the televised debates that it was she who for ideological reasons refused to bail the Lehman Brothers, a very critical bank in dealing with crisis.

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    • outsider February 6, 2018 at 10:19 am #


      The President does NOT have to answer Mueller’s questions and would be crazy to do so. One of the dumbest things he ever said was that he would sit down and talk to the man. Trump is often his own worst enemy.

    • Q. Shtik February 6, 2018 at 10:39 am #

      Unfortunately last month my back hurt so much that I could not write normally, but now the pain has started to decrease and I will try to make up for lost time, – Finca


      Oh, God, NO! Please bring his back pain back before he starts cranking out more lengthy and incomprehensible essays. And BTW Finc, I doubt there are 10 Americans who would know Boris Nemtsov if they tripped over him.

      Just sayin’

  56. Ol' Scratch February 6, 2018 at 7:21 am #

    You’re hurting back was trying to tell you to get out of the funny money inflated, HFT driven, American casino market. You should have listened to it.

    • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 8:22 am #

      Finc’s back was telling him to go out for more long walks and leave the computer behind for a while. 🙂

      “Severe spinal damage at 0 mph” [(c) The Back Pain Association].


      Great pic.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 9:34 am #

        Pledge to walk every day to the beach – only 5 minutes – and have a 30 min swim!

        Stay warm up there!

        • GreenAlba February 6, 2018 at 11:00 am #

          Glad to hear it Finca. I need to take my own advice as well. Went to the doctor’s surgery for a ‘flu jab (some 30% effective this year, by estimation). I only darken their door about once every five years, having had a lucky life health-wise, but the nurse who did the jab sneakily took my blood pressure while she had me in her clutches. It’s up a bit so it’s time for me to spend less time in front of the computer too. And less wine and chocolate. 🙁

          Won’t be swimming in the North Sea in Feb, though – that would be suicide. Stay well.

        • Q. Shtik February 6, 2018 at 11:21 am #

          OK, so 5 mins each way plus a 30 min swim means we all get a 40 min respite.

          • ozone February 6, 2018 at 11:43 am #

            I’ll take whatever respite I can get!

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 1:27 pm #

            You’re a serious gardener, what do you think about planting by the phases of the moon? Anything to it?

    • elysianfield February 6, 2018 at 10:55 am #

      Nick O Demus,
      Finc’s back pain can be traced to the enormously over-stuffed wallet he is sitting on. A cure for his condition would be for him to invest heavily in the stock market….

      • akmofo February 6, 2018 at 4:12 pm #


        All chronic dis-ease is a result of malnutrition. Mountain Finc is simply starving his body on shit Cuban food and alcohol.

  57. 100th Avatar February 6, 2018 at 9:00 am #

    nothing is going to happen, save the last entries to the fiesta over the past six months realizing that the exorbitant cover-charge didn’t get them many dances on the floor.

    skimming the late money. it’s chum, not a meal.

    • Ol' Scratch February 6, 2018 at 10:41 am #

      Agreed. Just taking down the easy marks. Probably initially driven by just one or two HFT’ers.

  58. FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 9:26 am #

    If, this time, suddenly – despite the position of Trump, the US Treasury, and the entire financial sector – the Fed will decide to collapse the financial market, it will probably be the first such case in the last several decades, and it is not very clear where the Fed suddenly will acquire political will for such a painful decision, except that the Hillary Flying Monkeys have some serious “lever” there and are ready to bring down the US economy today to have a chance to rule over it tomorrow.

    While such a scenario is possible, but highly unlikely.

    • Ol' Scratch February 6, 2018 at 10:37 am #

      This feels like a warning shot to me as well. A preview of coming attractions if you will. The Wall St sector telling anyone who will listen that they have the power to continue the party and they have the power to taketh the punch bowl away. For most of the baby boom generation this is “real money,” since their putative retirement money is tied up in the undecipherable financial circuses and inflated home prices. Were either or both of those markets to collapse, we’d hear unprecedented wailing and gnashing of teeth, as the tide would go out on their collective American Dreams, revealing only the rusted and decaying flotsam and jetsam underpinning what is actually the great American scam. The Fed is purely a monkey on string, if you will, being manipulated by persons whose identities and purposes (other than profit taking of course) are not precisely known at this time. No intel on whether that monkey also flies just yet, but I’ll let you know if I find out anything.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 10:46 am #

        The Fed is purely a monkey on string

        I agree, bro, but who’s pulling that string?

        I maintain that BOTH main branches of Financial Hierarchy – the Manhattan Pirates and City of London Money Changers are removed from the controls of that main financial lever and Obama’s Financial Control – the State Security Apparatus + Financial Bureaucracy – are ruling the show.

        That’s why the Battle for Washington is the Battle for FBI and DOJ.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 12:32 pm #

        The power to tax is the power to destroy – as is the power to create or cease to create money.

        • FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 12:39 pm #

          You don’t get it Janos, do you? It’s not about taxation, it’s about they tell you how you can spend “your” money and how you can’t.

          Of course when I say “money” I don’t mean a few hundred thousand, that’s not money.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 1:25 pm #

            Your arrogance is palpable. A hundred thousand is a lot of money, as even Trump has said. Or do you know more about it than him?

  59. akmofo February 6, 2018 at 9:48 am #

    Bob Dylan:


    Already in 1964 Bob Dylan was calling Time Magazine and Newsweek fake news. The dynamics remain the same. Large institutions cannot tell the truth about the establishments they are socially, logistically and financially integrated with.

  60. FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 10:04 am #

    Have you, son of a bitch, forgotten for a minute what Russia is?


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  61. FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 10:28 am #

    Fox News is so Frigging Intelligent, it Hurts my Feelings!

    It Was Clinton + Russians + FBI Against Trump


    The Russians! The Russians! The Russians!

    • FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 10:34 am #

      100th Avatar
      December 15, 2017 at 8:18 pm #
      The homeless guy screaming at the sidewalk… and hearing the same sidewalk’s replies.

      So crazy and fried in his own self-absorbed world.

      Cray-cray yo

      just cray-cray
      December 15, 2017 at 7:17 pm #
      Knock the thread


      off-track much?

      December 16, 2017 at 10:27 am #
      Finca is deleriously happy when musing upon the incisive and incomparably intelligent “internal dialogue” he endlessly indulges in.
      (…And I do mean, delerious.)
      December 15, 2017 at 10:50 pm #

      True happiness is when you’re being understood!

      • 100th Avatar February 6, 2018 at 8:33 pm #

        Not sure what this proves.
        That you constantly highjack this blog with non-germane entries that involve something involving Russia?

        You could be posting a rebuttal to a study in the American Journal of Pediatrics, and be perfectly correct, but that doesn’t mean it is germane to the f*****g convo at hand.

  62. janet February 6, 2018 at 11:06 am #


    “They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, ‘Treasonous.’ I mean, yeah, I guess, why not,” Trump said, adding, “Can we call that treason? Why not.”

    “We don’t live in a dictatorship or a monarchy. I swore an oath—in the military and in the Senate—to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, not to mindlessly cater to the whims of Cadet Bone Spurs and clap when he demands I clap,” Sen. Tammy Duckworth tweeted Monday evening.

    Duckworth, an Army veteran who lost her legs while serving in Iraq, appeared to be referencing Trump’s draft deferments. Trump received five draft deferments throughout the Vietnam War, and on one occasion, Trump received a deferment because of bone spurs.

    • Q. Shtik February 6, 2018 at 11:51 am #

      The other four deferments were for what? Terminal narcissism?

      • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

        You are not entirely to blame in your atheism. Your Church betrayed you. As one Brother says:

        It was a good system

        But even back then, even Chaucer – who was writing about Middle Ages England – hints at gays hiding in the clergy in the Canterbury Tales.

        The Pardoner’s Tale:

        With hym ther rood a gentil Pardoner
        Of Rouncivale, his freend and his compeer,
        That streight was comen fro the court of Rome.
        Ful loude he soong “Com hider, love, to me!”
        This Somonour bar to hym a stif burdoun …
        A voys he hadde as smal as hath a goot.
        No berd hadde he, ne nevere sholde have;
        As smothe it was as it were late shave.
        I trowe he were a geldyng or a mare.

        Basically Chaucer hints that the church guy who goes around preaching about sin and selling fake relics/indulgences is a homosexual.

        A quick PSA

        Try reading the medieval classics. Our ancestors were red-pilled on a lot of topics. This is ancient knowledge. Chaucer even talks about Jewish ritual murder of Christian children, proto-Feminism, corruption and all sorts of shit that just wouldn’t fly in today’s society.

        But the Great Men always knew these red-pill truths, and they hid them in their literature for us to find them and be comforted in the knowledge that we aren’t alone in our beliefs.


        So the problem was around even then, although probably to a much lesser degree. In general, Europeans were much less forgiving and priests were occasionally killed if they overstepped their authority from time to time.

        In my personal opinion, Christianity was at its best when it was a mix of native European paganism and Greek logos-based Theology.

        It kept the virility of the old ways, but clamped down on the worst of the superstitious witch-doctory and in general, helped uplift the European peoples.

        Nowadays though, no one can say that the Church – either Protestant or Catholic – is taking care of the European peoples.

        It is a sad state of affairs indeed. I can only sympathize with the hardcore faithful. An anti-White, Marxist, pedo is sitting in the papal seat and ruining a once great religion. These are trying times for any White man, faithful or not.

        • San Jose February 6, 2018 at 5:37 pm #


          At church on Sunday, our new, queer pastor sermonized about “Anglo-Saxon First” problems. Ugh.

          I’m scheduled to teach two adult education classes on Ken Wilber’s 2017 book, “The Religion of Tomorrow–A Vision for the Future of the Great Traditions.” After that, I’m going to skip church and get more sleep on Sunday mornings.

          Of course, if by some miracle the choir manages to put on Verdi’s Requiem, or some other fabulous work, I’ll be back in the pews temporarily.

          Jen in San Jose

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 6:26 pm #

            Oh I haven’t seen that one. I’ll have to browse thru it in a bookstore or buy it used. I’m pretty much done with Wilber after he freaked out about the Dalai Lama refusing to endorse anal sex. And of course, he’s an ultra Liberal who hates “Natsies”. Friendly with the Clintons, at least at one time, first name dropping them in his published journals.

            But he was a big influence on me and I respect his intelligence. No one can take that away. His failings are to do with his character by and large, not his IQ.

          • San Jose February 6, 2018 at 8:19 pm #


            Before you go out and buy Wilber’s “Religion of Tomorrow,” be sure and read/buy his essay, “Trump and a Post-Truth World.” I got to read it free when it was first published (check out his website) but ended up buying a hard copy because it is an awesome essay. He skewers the left–so I think you’d like it.

            As for “Religion of Tomorrow” — I’m guessing 60% of it is cut/pasted from “Sex, Ecology and Spirituality,” (which remains my favorite Wilber book).

            That being said, I found an error in the new book. He talked about Meister Eckhart being hassled by the Spanish Inquisition. (Eckhart died in the 1300’s, the Spanish Inquisition didn’t get going until the 1470’s?) Eckhart definitely got in trouble with the pope, but in Paris, not Spain.


          • BackRowHeckler February 6, 2018 at 10:23 pm #

            Wait a minute. Your Minister is a blow brother?


          • San Jose February 6, 2018 at 10:40 pm #

            She is…..whatever two girls do together? A recent Princeton Theological Grad, she identifies as “queer.” She’s a girly, girl. Long hair, curled–and one of the few woman at church (besides myself) who wears high heels.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 11:40 pm #

            Tribadism! Tribe is Bad but this is good?

            I read SES so I guess I’m up to speed. He never has dared to touch race. He is honest about not believing in Democracy and wants to force a non-White world onto Western Civilization. He is one of the Evil Brahmins predicted to arise in Kali Yuga.

          • San Jose February 7, 2018 at 10:22 pm #

            Thankfully, Ken Wilber is not a racist.


  63. FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 11:07 am #

    Mihail Lermontov, Borodino

    – HEY tell, old man, had we a cause
    When Moscow, razed by fire, once was
    Given up to Frenchman’s blow?
    Old-timers talk about some frays,
    And they remember well those days!
    With cause all Russia fashions lays
    About Borodino!

    – Yea, were there men when I was young,
    Whose songs your tribe is not to ‘ve sung:
    They’d fight,– you ‘re none as good!
    An evil lot have they been drawn:
    Few left the grounds to which they had gone…
    Had it not been God’s will alone,
    Old Moscow should have stood!

    Retreating this day and the next,
    We wonder’d when ‘s our battle, vext;
    The veterans talk’d upset:
    “What then? we ‘re off to winter dorms?
    Go the commanders by new norms;
    Daren’t they rip foreign uniforms
    On Russian bayonet?”

    • capt spaulding February 6, 2018 at 2:13 pm #

      Perhaps you should consider starting your own blog since you have so much to say. You comment so much, it just turns into noise, rather than being a considered opinion. I hear people shout their asshole opinions all the time, and it doesn’t affect me in the least. I guess if you like hearing yourself talk, keep posting. I just find it annoying, like bird shit on a pump handle. Just sayin’.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 3:53 pm #

        Oh, comrade capt’n, comrade capt’n…

        If just you would’ve said three hamburgers, I would’ve had such a story to tell you!

        • capt spaulding February 6, 2018 at 9:08 pm #

          I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

  64. elysianfield February 6, 2018 at 12:00 pm #

    I knew it! I knew that the theories of dark matter/dark energy were fantasies of inductive reasoning…


    • tucsonspur February 6, 2018 at 2:57 pm #

      The diameter of a proton is a bit less than 1 femtometer.(?) These ligo instruments have to measure distances around 1/1000 the diameter of said proton.

      I always question the validity of these measurements. And things like Fabry-Perot cavities are used to increase sensitivity, so it seems to me that on these scales, somebody breaking wind a mile away could cause these instruments to think they’ve detected gravity waves from colliding neutron stars billions of light years out.

      Maybe today’s technology is that precise. The Nobel Prize in physics has been awarded for their detection.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 3:04 pm #

      least in regard to the equivalence principle, it has to act exactly the way Einstein proposed

      Yes, Bingo!

      Einstein’s main conclusion about the equivalence of gravity and geometry, which found its logical development in the solutions of Einstein’s equations by Russian scientist Alexander Friedmann and subsequently confirmed by Stephen Hawking, contrary to Gauge Theory which is being pushed through a system of scientific grants by the Black Project, shows that such solutions inevitably have a singularity point in the past, meaning that the Universe, as a collection of matter, energy and space-time in forms accessible to our observation, did not exist earlier than a certain moment.

      This conclusion of the Einstein theory of relativity coincides with the Judeo-Christian concept of creatio ex nihilo – the creation of the world from nothing – and practically denies the fundamental axiom of materialism and atheism – an assertion about the primordial, eternal existence of matter.

  65. Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 1:55 pm #

    Birthday parties for Trayvon are breaking out on the Rightwing Net. He would have been 23 today, probly getting ready to go to graduate school and shit. Here’s one post from Western Rifle Shooters. JS

    Let’s not forget another aspect of Trayvon Martin’s life which has been disappeared down the memory hole – his drug addiction. Specifically, Martin – like many young and underage urban teen males – was into “Lean,” also called (sic) “purple drank.” Two of its most-common ingredients are a drink called “Arizona Watermellon,” and Skittles candy. These ingredients are mixed with OTC cough syrups, many of which contain codeine or other narotics – and are often spiked with alcohol.

    “Purple drank is confirmed or suspected to have caused the deaths of several prominent users. Respiratory depression is a potentially serious or fatal adverse drug reaction associated with the use of codeine, but mainly the danger lies in the much more potent and CNS-depressing phenothiazine-related antihistamine promethazine. This depression is dose-related and is the mechanism for the potentially fatal consequences of overdose: respiratory or cardiac arrest. As with most CNS depressants, mixing with alcohol greatly increases the risk of respiratory failure and other complications.

    DJ Screw, who popularized the codeine-based drink, died of a codeine-promethazine-alcohol overdose on November 16, 2000, several months after the video to Three 6 Mafia’s single debuted.

    Big Moe, a DJ Screw protegé whose albums City of Syrup and Purple World were based on the drink and who has been described as having “rapped obsessively about the drug,” died at age 33 on October 14, 2007, after suffering a heart attackone week earlier that left him in a coma. There was speculation that purple drank may have contributed to his death.

    Pimp C, widely influential Port Arthur, Texas rapper and a member of rap duo UGK, was found dead on December 4, 2007, at the Mondrian Hotel in West Hollywood, California. The Los Angeles County Coroner’s office reported that the rapper’s death was “due to promethazine/codeine effects and other unestablished factors.” Ed Winter, assistant chief of the coroner’s office, said the levels of the medication were elevated, but not enough to deem the death an overdose. However, Pimp C had a history of sleep apnea, a condition that causes one to stop breathing for short periods during sleep. A spokesman for the coroner’s office said that the combination of sleep apnea and cough medication probably suppressed Pimp C’s breathing long enough to bring on his death.”

    In short, Trayvon Martin wasn’t an innocent teenager, but a junkie looking to score. A fact that the MSM-propaganda ministry conveniently left out of the stories on Martin and George Zimmerman, the man who nearly lost his life at Martin’s hands.

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    • thwack February 6, 2018 at 2:34 pm #

      Did lawrence EAGLEburger watch the Souperbowl?

      It was a text book case of German idealism defeating British empiricism.

      Just sayin

  66. FincaInTheMountains February 6, 2018 at 3:12 pm #

    Academician Sergei Glazyev: We have a monstrous economic disaster in Russia

    If the goal was to make Russia a colony for Western capital, then the policy pursued for 25 years is very successful. But it has nothing to do with either national interests or the tasks of economic development.

    It is necessary to implement not the recommendations of the IMF, but the recommendations of scientists of the Russian Academy of Sciences, which are based on an understanding of the laws of economic development, knowledge of international experience and brilliantly proved experimentally.

    We have an excellent experiment, unique in economic history: we simultaneously with China started reforms on the transition from a command to a market economy. China has achieved an economic miracle, today it produces six times more products than we do, and we have the most monstrous economic catastrophe in the world history of peacetime.

    There are obvious confirmations on which one can say which concept is correct and which is not.

    The inconsistency of the libertarian concept of the Washington consensus has been experimentally confirmed in Russia, and the concept of an integrated economic policy combining planning and market mechanisms has produced brilliant results.


  67. janet February 6, 2018 at 3:57 pm #


    Trump’s wounded economy has added about 169,000 jobs a month since the 2016 election.

    Compare that to the 185,000 jobs per month that the Obama economy added over the previous seven years.

    Trump cannot even produce as many jobs as Obama produced monthly, consistently, for seven years.

  68. janet February 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

    Trump says wages are rising, and that is true. Wages are rising.

    But the thing is… wages are rising at a slower rate than they were at the end of Obama’s second term.

    Obama did a better job at getting workers higher wages, though it took him until the last part of his second term. Trump has not been able to equal Obama on wage increases for workers.

  69. janet February 6, 2018 at 4:25 pm #

    “I would shut [government] down over this issue. I can’t speak for everybody at the table but I will tell you, I would shut it down over this issue,” he said, adding that if the US doesn’t straighten out its borders “we don’t have a country. Without borders we don’t have a country.”

    Hogwash. We have had a country for over 200 years with a porous border which allowed immigrants to come in and later become citizens through amnesty programs, like Reagan’s in 1986. We had a country before and after Reagan’s amnesty. A sealed border is not necessary to have a country, as the last 200 years has demonstrated.

  70. elysianfield February 6, 2018 at 6:29 pm #

    Where is Kesa?

    Where is our “Prickly Prussian”? Our “Stasi Sweetheart”? Our “Frau Blucher?” I feel the need for…correction…scorn and derision. Many in the readership stand ready to provide for my comeuppance, but Frau Blucher excoriates with a tongue equal to the barbed lash.

    Many have been the target of her invectives, none are safe, as Janos earlier opined…who will be next to have their friendship face-stomped by the jackboot? …Maybe Elrond…yeah….

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    • BackRowHeckler February 6, 2018 at 9:35 pm #

      She was hittin’ the schnopps pretty hard a few weeks ago; maybe still on a bender.


    • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm #

      It was fun when she drunk posted. Maybe at some pre-appointed time we should all do that. Most of you including you are too tightly wound. The reason that Me and Keesh are better writers is because we are looser. Dry drunks so to speak. I combine that with an incredible consistency. The only way I can manage that is because of decades of truth seeking and meditation. I have a Centre. A North Star. Kesa may as well, but she loses sight of it in the clouds of her unconscious, and of course in the storms of vitriol that follow. Is that dark twister on the horizon coming this way her?

    • PeteAtomic February 7, 2018 at 9:40 am #

      She was from East Germany? what? lol

  71. janet February 6, 2018 at 7:27 pm #

    “Only mobsters plead the 5th” –Donald J. Trump

    Trump wants to avoid answering Mueller questioning him under oath (though earlier he had said he was “looking forward to it”). Trump is confirming he is a mobster and indicting himself as a mobster.

  72. janet February 6, 2018 at 7:31 pm #

    To get a FISA warrant renewed the FISA judges have to be shown evidence. The warrants were renewed four times. There was no conspiracy, no fraud… there was a legitimate process with oversight. The Trump-Nunez MEMO was simply wrong. There was no “fraud” on the court. Nunez even conceded that Monday on FoxNews.

  73. janet February 6, 2018 at 7:43 pm #

    Mueller is thoroughly investigating Trump’s criminal activities, including prior business deals, money laundering, collusion with Russian government social media information operations (treason), active cyber intrusions into state level election databases, actual contacts between Russian officials and Trump campaign staff (there are guilty pleas already), and Trump’s subsequent criminal obstruction of justice in the attempt to cover up his substantial criminal activity.

    • BackRowHeckler February 6, 2018 at 9:39 pm #

      Little Jane, not sure what time zone you are in …

      … time to feed the cats, break open a box of cheap wine, and pop in a Murphy Brown re run. Life is good.

      give yourself a break, more anti Trump screeds can wait till tomorrow.


      • ozone February 7, 2018 at 8:54 am #

        Mmmm, nothing like a fine cardboardeaux. 😉
        Stay warm, here comes a February sky-dump!

  74. BackRowHeckler February 6, 2018 at 8:52 pm #

    Hey Green Alba its pretty clear the people in GB who voted for Brexit weren’t thinking about the economics of it but objected to open borders and their former ‘Christian Kingdom’ being overrun by Islam, in fact an attempt to salvage a vestige of traditional England before it was too late. Maybe the fact that in the ancient city of London English people are a minority in their own capital and the Lord Mayor is a muzzy names khan has something to do with it too. You may not have a problem with that, you may know some nice muzzies who live down the street, who have cute kids, who you see in the park in a rare sunny afternoon, that’s all well and good. But many others apparently consider muslims outlanders and invaders, incompatible with an historical and Christian England. Its always astonished me that the British fought so hard to keep out the Germans in 1940 but in modern times have opened up their borders to millions of africans, arabs, and muzzies.

    I figure there are about a billion muzzies in the world who would like to get into GB (or Germany or Sweden) and hook in with your social services system, which would give them a better life than the one they left behind in their shithole home countries. Are they all welcome? And how are open borders and a comprehensive welfare system like which exists in GB at all compatible?

    So IMO this is why patriotic citizens in GB voted to leave Europe; it was cultural, about blood and family,not economic; they loved a homeland where their national history can be traced back 100 generations, the bullsh-t globalist phony construct called the EU and its elitist commissars they had no use for.



    • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 9:49 pm #

      Well said. The Marxists have never been able to think about anything except jobs, guns, and butter. They are tone deaf to the mystic chords of memory and oblivious to the realities of Blood and Soil. And now that they have “diversified” into non-economical issues like Race, they are even more utterly destructive than they were before.

      As Chief Joseph said, any man unwilling to defend his father’s grave is no better than a beast. Or I might add, his people’s genotype. Leftists recently condemned a tribe for trying to stay racially pure.

      • janet February 7, 2018 at 10:13 am #

        “trying to stay racially pure”

        Racial purity does not exist.

      • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 11:18 am #

        “As Chief Joseph said, any man unwilling to defend his father’s grave is no better than a beast.”

        But you’re a Christian, Janos, so you’ll prefer what Jesus said:

        “‘Follow me.’ But the man replied, ‘Lord, first let me go and bury my father.’ Jesus said to him, ‘Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God’” (Luke 9:59–60).

        The kingdom of God, note, not the theory of white supremacy.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 1:38 pm #

          So you think Christ was against burial of the dead? Don’t try Biblical exegesis Alba, you’re far too literal and one dimensional. You only care about matter. And you are willing to give your countrymen’s matter or stuff to aliens because you think that’s the essence of morality. Robbing Peter to pay Ahmed.

          You are Hopeless.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 2:31 pm #


            You ask me if I think Christ was against burial of the dead and YOU accuse ME of being too literal? Really?

            He was talking about priorities. In Christian theology the body is only a temporary housing for the spirit. Once the body dies, the spirit is no longer in the body.

            You’re the Christian. You should know this.

            Hopeless indeed.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 5:50 pm #

            Yet the body is honored in Christianity. We’re not Gnostics. The rage against “the Flesh” is not about the body per se, but rather the psychological obsession with the body. That obsession gives rise to things like Marxism and Globalism as well as Porn and letting Men use the same bathrooms as little girls.

            Stop cherry picking Christianity. And stop cherry picking Science. Try to be a serious and decent person. That means giving up Marxism and Globalism btw.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 6:15 pm #

            I am neither a Marxist nor a Globalist. And I’m not cherry picking, I’m just giving you a pertinent quote. Which is still pertinent, despite your ramblings into Marxism, globalism pornography and bathrooms.

            Decent people aren’t white supremacists.

    • chola3 February 6, 2018 at 10:02 pm #

      Here we are, willing and actually having gone through much deprivation to preserve language (thus culture) and the homelands.

      It is a pitiful sight, seeing a the European stock who ruled the world for centuries, reduced to “muh pensions”.

      Is that is what wealth does to you? But the Japs seem different. Maybe it is the serf mentality of a millenium.

      The likes of Janos, fighting a rearguard action, commendable but reminds me WW2 German quote:
      Nothing much to fight for, even less to fight with.

      • BackRowHeckler February 6, 2018 at 10:16 pm #

        That’s pretty much what General Longstreet CSA said too, in April 1865.


        • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 11:49 pm #

          Remember the blind detective show Longstreet or Long something? And Kato his faithful non-White servant?

      • Janos Skorenzy February 6, 2018 at 11:36 pm #

        Don’t throw in the towel yet. A vast revolution is building. We’re winning minds and hearts – of the children. Ever hear of the Internet? It’s not just about porn anymore…..

        Alt-Right. Generation Z is more aware and more racist than the last several.

    • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 11:04 am #

      Hey brh

      You seem to be confused, like a small minority of Brexit voters (thankfully a very small minority) who went around, in the days following the referendum, shouting at *British* Muslim-looking people and telling them they were going to have to go home! Seriously, they really thought the UK leaving the EU meant British Muslims having to go somewhere else – when they didn’t come from the EU in the first place. There’s really no accounting for this level of ignorance other than reading nonsense for most of your life. Or not being able to read at all and listening to nonsense instead.

      And don’t get me wrong, I do feel sorry for people who have been fed nonsense all their lives. But the answer is education, not accommodating nonsense.

      Most people who voted for Brexit because of concerns about immigration (i.e. the ones not stupid enough to think the question was about Muslims) were concerned about the number of Eastern Europeans. The largest numbers have historically been from Poland and are overwhelmingly Catholic, if they practise a religion at all.

      So what is your connection with Muslims and the EU, brh? I’m confused. Although clearly not as much as you are.

      “And how are open borders and a comprehensive welfare system
      like which exists in GB at all compatible?”

      I don’t know, brh, you’d need to ask someone who lives in a country with open borders and that wouldn’t be me. Do you know anything about the UK at all or do you get all your information from Breitbart and Fox News? You know, Fox News that had to apologise for the nonsense it was promulgating about Muslims.

      The UK isn’t even in Schengen. Do you even know what Schengen is? I’ll help you out:


      Read the bits about borders, since you seem not to understand much about them.

      Here’s another little fact for you: about 3 million people in the UK go to church, out of 65 million. The decline of Christianity in the UK has b*gger all to do with Muslims. It has to do with prosperity, education and the plurality of ideas.

      Now, if you want to ask about non-EU migration into the UK, you’d be advised to ask the Home Office, which has responsibility for approving, monitoring and controlling non-EU migration. Which, you will understand from its name, has nothing to do with the EU.

      Are we getting anywhere yet?

      Slight non-sequitur but I hope you’re pleased about the challenges to hijab wearing in Iran at the moment. I am.


      Let’s hope they get somewhere before your country decides to bomb them back to the Middle Ages. Because the Middle Ages is what we all want them to get rid of, right? Those angry men with beards. The ones Sadiq Khan doesn’t like either.

      • elysianfield February 7, 2018 at 11:30 am #

        “Now, if you want to ask about non-EU migration into the UK, you’d be advised to ask the Home Office, which has responsibility for approving, monitoring and controlling non-EU migration. Which, you will understand from its name, has nothing to do with the EU.”

        I am under the impression that mandatory acceptance of immigrants was a condition of EU membership…if that be the case, then your Home Office would only handle the mundane details of immigrant settlement required of them by their EU administrators.

        Was this not an issue?

        • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 12:03 pm #


          There seems to be a widespread misunderstanding (perhaps wilful, certainly aided and abetted by organs such as Fox News with agendas) about something that seems to me quite simple.

          Freedom of movement within the EU, as a principle of membership of the single market, is about EU citizens (not refugees or others from outside the EU) being able to go to other member countries in search of work.

          From a BBC article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36449974)

          “EU citizens who come to the UK to find work cannot claim
          jobseeker’s allowance during their first three months in the

          After that they can claim for a total of 91 days, which can be
          split across several periods of job seeking. They can continue
          claiming beyond that period if they can demonstrate that they
          are actively looking for a job and are likely to get it.

          After a total of six months they can be removed if they still
          have not found a job, and have no realistic possibility of finding
          one, and require support from the welfare system.

          These rules have been in place since early 2014, and are in
          line with existing EU legislation.”

          I hope that clears up several misconceptions that seem to come up again and again on this website.

          If you are talking about non-EU immigration, let’s say people from Iraq or Somalia coming directly to the UK, then that has absolutely nothing to do with the EU. Why on earth would it?

          • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 1:29 pm #

            Exactly. So once Muslim invaders break in to Europe, they are free to go anywhere. That’s why people want out of the EU – it doesn’t protect them anymore. That’s the first and most basic element of the social contract in case you’ve forgotten.

            Glad I could clear that up for you.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 2:13 pm #

            Janos, I said ‘EU citizens’. You remain confused. And the UK remains NOT part of Schengen, which mean INTERNAL EU BORDERS.

            I repeat, the majority of internal migrants are Polish. The religious ones are Catholics.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 2:32 pm #


          • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 3:15 pm #

            Million of Muslim “refugees”. Our hearts are breaking for them. Soon they will be breaking our heads and raping our women as the war booty their religion allows. Wives of the left hand the Koran calls them. Concubines who will produce Muslim sons to carry on the Jihad, even to the shores of America.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 4:51 pm #

            Ah, finally. So we’re not talking about immigration into the UK as part of the single market arrangements, we’re talking about refugees, which is something else entirely, and is governed by international law.

            Well, since you’re worried about the UK, please rest assured that it doesn’t have to take any more refugees than it otherwise would, just because it’s in the EU, so if some foolish Brexiters thought that was what they were voting about, they were sadly misled. Refugees have nothing whatever to do with the free movement of people within the member states. That’s just for EU citizens, as I’ve already explained.

            In the meantime, maybe you could just encourage your country to stop bombing people and generally to do whatever it can to support the good guys in any foreign country where you have influence. The good guys are the ones who work in the interests of their own people, not the ones who work for self-enrichment and are happy to support ‘American interests’ (including oil procurement) as the American bad guys perceive them. Real American interests include helping ensure that people in far-off lands have a decent enough life that they don’t feel pressured to leave, and specifically not doing anything that makes that less likely. I’m sure we can both agree on that.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 3:24 am #

            No serious person believes in “refugees” wearing designer clothing and looking very well fed indeed. They’re economic migrants at best. But where are their families? Why so many young men? There’s a lot Pirates among them – and Jihadis.

            In any case, you still haven’t made the argument why the West should be taking any immigrants from anywhere. They’re not needed and can only drag us down. There’s fewer jobs every year, Alba. It’s a zero sum game at this point. And the more people, the smaller the pie. Pretty simple for people with clarity.

            And of course then there is all the other things. Do we want people who chop up our young women and put them into kebabs? Really?

          • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 7:04 am #

            Every country is different, Janos, and needs to fashion its own immigration policy, not take advice from white supremacists.

            Here, for example, we are short of doctors and nurses. You didn’t answer my previous query about whether the invitation to 5000 nurses from India and the Philippines was a sensible solution, given that (a) they can’t be found NOW, when we need them, within our own borders, and (b) nurses have stopped coming from the EU because of Brexit.

            Personally, as I said, I think employing EU nurses would have been preferable (and staying in the EU, obviously) since I think India and the Philippines can less afford to be training nurses who then go to work elsewhere. I don’t care what colour they are, but I’d go with the lesser of two evils as regards poaching people other countries have trained (although Australia is currently benefiting from doctors the UK has trained – but countries like India and the Philippines don’t tend to get that benefit).

            Likewise there is already a problem, since the Brexit referendum, with getting enough people to pick fruit and vegetables in Lincolnshire and East Anglia. British people categorically do not want to do that kind of work for minimum wage in East Anglian fields. They may be forced to, but for the moment, the answer will be strawberries being grown in Poland instead and imported. Clever.

            Or increased mechanisation and an overall loss of jobs.

            Here’s an example of what happens when you make stupid, knee-jerk immigration decisions – it’s affecting doctors as well. Desperately needed doctors who have been offered jobs in the UK are unable to take them up because they will earn less than the arbitrary £35K salary


          • Elrond Hubbard February 8, 2018 at 11:46 am #

            You are valiant, GreenAlba, but trying to engage Janos or most people like him on the basis of reasoned argumentation is a fruitless endeavor, guaranteed to fail. That’s because his positions aren’t motivated by facts or evidence, but by primatology.

            Watch this Seinfeld clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A9U_Y3L7XU

            [A chimpanzee at the zoo has thrown a banana peel in Kramer’s face. After Kramer retaliates, the zoo takes him to task when the chimp becomes despondent.]

            Zookeeper: Mr. Kramer, he’s an innocent primate!

            Kramer: So am I! What about my feelings?

            Humans are primates, so we share certain motivations with our more simian relatives, including territoriality. Learning to control your base instincts is intrinsic to civilization, not unlike toilet training, and most of us have learned to do so. But there’s a strain of people who just refuse, and prefer instead to drown in territoriality, make it the foundation of their self-definition, and visit it upon others. In chimps, this leads to shrieking, flinging of faeces, and gruesome raids on neighbouring tribes. In Homo sapiens, it leads to goose-stepping, tyrannical demands for ‘racial purity’ and retaliation against perceived enemies, and invasions of Poland and Russia.

            (I say perceived enemies because the territorial instinct demands an adversary against which to define itself. If no such adversary exists, one will be invented by whatever means come to hand. This vacuum, which demands to be filled, comes as part of the package. The felt need to fill it is both real and unappeasable. Little more than this is needed in order to understand, for example, the persistence of anti-Semitism and its related frauds and slanders. Hatred of Muslims in today’s West is another manifestation. This is a universal tendency, so of course it happens outside the West as well, but they’re them and we’re us. I’ll focus on us who are near at hand.)

            You will never overcome the kind of narcissism of small differences — common to all racists — that insists people with different skin colours are entirely different kinds of being. Nothing less than fanatical separatism will satisfy when blind, irrational instinct is in the saddle. But good on you for trying, GreenAlba. We can’t give these creeps an inch.

          • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 12:36 pm #

            It’s exhausting, Elrond. I don’t even need to start a conversation, since there are a couple of people (mentioning no names) always looking for a fight who will invite me to comment on some nonsense about the Islamification of Tunbridge Wells or Walton on the Naze.

            The clip was brilliant, thank you!

            I don’t know if you noticed the link I posted to the article that showed that, out of 40 nations polled, the US public is the fifth worst informed *about its own country*. 35th out of 40. And they’re worried about what they think is going on in other places.

            There’s some serious catching up to be done there – and Fox ‘News’ clearly isn’t the solution.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

          So how did it happen that White Britons stopped becoming Doctors and Nurses? Isn’t that the real question? Of course foreigners could be brought in temporarily as a stop gap, but needless to say you folks wouldn’t accept that. Nor is this about jobs at all.

          You want to remake Britain as the former Labor politician admitted, “Rub their noses in diversity”. Thus is the Leftist hatred for the organic British peoples and nations.

          • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 3:58 pm #

            Janos, would you please stop telling me what I think?

            I have never either specifically pursued diversity or wished to rub anyone’s nose in anything. Why on earth would you think I have any influence on anything? Diversity just happened for lots of reasons, and overall it’s been a good thing. It primarily happened because of the existence of a commonwealth that resulted from the UK going forth and subjugating two thirds of the world to take their resources.

            Having some of them come to live with us is the least we can do.

  75. janet February 6, 2018 at 11:22 pm #

    After 17 years of war, the Taliban is currently operating in 70% of Afghanistan. Trump said he had a “secret plan” to win the war. Trump said he knows more than the generals. So, why are the Taliban in control of the country? And why is Trump continuing to through taxpayer money into the Afghanistan rathole. Shithole?

    Sen. Rand Paul said the $45 billion is “just being thrown down a hatch in Afghanistan.” Hatch. Rathole. Shithole. It is obvious Trump is doing what every other president has done: waste US taxpayers’ money.

    Except Trump is also doing something no other US president has ever done: Trump is deporting veterans who served in Afghanistan and Trump is shipping them out of the United States… to countries they have never lived in. Trump is not being fair to the Dreamer veterans who put their lives on the line, only to be arrested in Trump’s ICE raids and deported.

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    • janet February 6, 2018 at 11:44 pm #

      why is Trump continuing to ^throw^ $45 Billion of taxpayer money into the Afghanistan rathole. Shithole?

    • BackRowHeckler February 7, 2018 at 12:02 am #

      For God’s sake mellow out, Little Jane.

      You seem to be lacking in love for your fellow Americans, but with a deep and abiding love for non Americans living illegally inside our borders. What gives?


    • Ol' Scratch February 7, 2018 at 10:50 am #

      Trump said he knows more than the generals.

      That’s not really saying anything, though, is it?

  76. janet February 6, 2018 at 11:49 pm #

    No one noticed the white riots in Philadelphia, overturning cars, destroying property, screaming and throwing things like savages?

    Or is it only called a riot when the participants are Black?

    • Q. Shtik February 7, 2018 at 12:33 am #

      How about the guy who ate horse shit off the street. In Philly this is what is known as a ‘super fan.’

      • PeteAtomic February 7, 2018 at 9:39 am #

        ha ha, maybe.

        The Crisco didn’t work on their light poles so they were putting hydraulic fluid on them instead.

    • PeteAtomic February 7, 2018 at 9:37 am #

      Well, as a Minnesotan, I noticed it. Thank God it didn’t happen in Minneapolis there. There were police from all over the state making sure those animals didn’t misbehave.

      They were eating horse shit off the streets there in Philadelphia.

    • elysianfield February 7, 2018 at 11:33 am #

      “Or is it only called a riot when the participants are Black”

      Can you describe a riot in recent history where the participants were predominately white? Campus hijinks do not count….

    • Sean Coleman February 7, 2018 at 4:11 pm #

      When was that? I missed it. If it really were a white riot surely it would be all over the media, for weeks on end. It would be as unusual as una mosca bianca.

      And isn’t a crime only racist when the (alleged) victim is black?

  77. FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 3:35 am #

    Its always astonished me that the British fought so hard to keep out the Germans in 1940 but in modern times have opened up their borders to millions of africans, arabs, and muzzies. == brh

    The increased Third World immigration to British Isles is a symptom of decease, the decease is final transformation of the European Union into the Fourth Reich.

    Britain is a very complex society and all three Western Colored Projects are represented in all classes, but historically the Anglo-Saxon aristocracy and half of the Normans associate themselves with the Western White Project (Winston Churchill), and the other half with Black and Red, while bourgeoisie is mostly Black.

    That is why the decision to start a divorce process with a Romano-German civilization was made by the aristocracy after, contrary to the urgent warnings of the European Union, the head of the European Commission became Jean Claude Juncker, which meant the victory of the Black Project in European structures and the final transformation of the European Union into the Fourth Reich.

    Accordingly, if England stayed in EU it would turn into the naval outpost of the Fourth Reich armed with nuclear submarines, inevitably leading to conflict with Russia, which England may not survive.

    • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 1:46 pm #

      “The increased Third World immigration to British Isles is a symptom of decease, the decease is final transformation of the European Union into the Fourth Reich.”

      How are third world immigrants (i.e. non-EU-citizens) coming to the UK under the auspices of the EU? The EU doesn’t have any say in the immigration policy of the UK with regard to non-EU citizens, campaigns of misinformation by US ‘news’ sources notwithstanding

      There will very probably be more non-EU citizens coming to the UK after Brexit. Although you did say the British Isles, so seem to have included Ireland into the mix, which will still be in the EU!

      • malthuss February 7, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

        How are third world immigrants coming to the UK?
        By train, plane, car, boat.

        The EU-Globalists bring them to Europe and the train, plane, car, boat.+ welfare do the rest.

        Got it?

        • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 2:28 pm #


          They can’t get into the UK from the EU under the auspices of the EU if they’re not EU citizens.

          Got it?

          • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 3:12 pm #

            Exactly. They’re Soros funded invaders. Illegals. Got it? They should have no rights. That the EU insists on giving them rights and money simply shows they are not legitimate rulers of Europe but rather tyrants who flout natural law; Who take from the People and give back nothing.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

            That may be technically true (about Schengen), but the EU does set immigration goals for Britian. Goals the British people found onerous. Countless White Britons have fled Britain because it doesn’t seem British anymore. Thus Brexit. It Terry May doesn’t keep faith with the British People, she should be tried for treason.

          • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 5:01 pm #


            “Goals the British people found onerous. Countless White Britons have fled Britain because it doesn’t seem British anymore. Thus Brexit.”

            How many times? You are being deliberately obtuse. The EU doesn’t ‘set immigration targets’. All member states have signed up to the four freedoms, which includes the freedom of EU citizens to live in member states, if they can find work.

            If white Britons are leaving Britain because of immigrants form the EU, they’re mostly Polish Catholics. You make no sense.

            The UK has absolute control over immigration to the UK from non-EU countries, i.e. those with the Muslim populations you’re worried about. So some people might not like the number of black or brown people living in the UK but it has not the slightest connection with the EU.

            And never mind ‘countless’ – let’s have some verifiable figures for those who’ve left because it doesn’t feel like Britain any more. Otherwise it’s just self-regarding waffle.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 2:28 pm #

            Read any popular magazine or watch some news shows. We’ve heard about the mass exodus of the White English even over here. White Flight!

            How clueless. Or are you being disingenuous?

          • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 4:29 pm #

            “Read any popular magazine or watch some news shows. We’ve heard about the mass exodus of the White English even over here. ”

            Of course you have. I hope you’re not expecting me to start reading Breitbart too.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 4:48 am #

      Don’t the guy on the illustration to this article look like a well-tanned member of the House of Lords, just back from his Carribean vacation?

      • thwack February 7, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

        That tan is from the English rain

        • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 1:18 pm #

          Then they’re ‘weathered’ not tanned. 🙂

    • Q. Shtik February 7, 2018 at 11:13 am #

      The tech equipment used to produce the image of a black 10,000 year old Brit also was able to determine that he spoke with a thick Cockney accent. Our technology is amazing!

      • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 1:20 pm #

        Cheddar Man, so West Country accent, not Estuary English.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

      Obviously not a Negro even if it is an accurate depiction. Way, way back, when African conditions pertained even in Europe. There may have been a few Negroes in Europe. But that was before the last ice age, not in this historical cycle at all.

      Color is the least of it. Australian Aborigines and Black African immigrants hate each other. And they are not genetically alike at all, despite a similar skin tone.

  78. FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 6:34 am #

    Elon Musk’s Tesla overshot Mars’ orbit and is headed to the asteroid belt


    The launch is significant, but not a breakthrough, although it certainly is a step in the right direction.

    So you’re writing America off too early, it will still show itself, and not only as the second edition of the Third Reich.

    As for flight to Mars, this is still nonsense. Outside the Earth’s magnetosphere, cosmic rays will penetrate any protection except for a double solenoid and kill all life within a maximum of 15 minutes.

    And for a superconducting double solenoid, you need not 64 tons, but 64 thousand tons. So Mars will have to wait, but on the Moon, apparently the first to land all the same will be an American who even will mine there the first ton of thermonuclear fuel.

    But this is not the main thing. Musk is implementing the Shuttle program, which died along with a dozen American astronauts due to the inability and unwillingness of mathematicians to create a general theory of nonlinear partial differential equations.

    The main idea of the Shuttle was not participation in Star Wars, but a radical reduction in the cost of delivering cargo to orbit due to the repeated use of very expensive liquid-jet engines of the last stage, which were destructed during normal launching upon the entrance to the atmosphere. The reduction was achieved by launching the returnable module into orbit with the help of much cheaper solid-fuel missiles, which are very difficult to control during the flight.

    Unfortunately, the process of re-entering the atmosphere of the descent vehicle, commonly referred to as the shuttle, was unpredictable because of the above mathematical difficulties in describing the process of contraction of the heat equation in the ablative coating of the descent vehicle. The cheapness turned out to be fake, as on average every tenth flight ended in a catastrophe.

    By the way, for similar reasons, I think it will be very expensive to fire a rail-gun, and it is not clear what will blow first as a result of an arc contraction – a gun or a ship.

    Meanwhile, Elon Musk found people who explained to him that the computer technologies already allow putting the first stages on the platform at sea, if solid-fuel rockets are replaced with liquid-reactive ones.

    And this really made the price of the launch much cheaper.

    However, I strongly doubt that he managed to reduce the price of delivery of kilogram to the orbit from $10,000 to a $1,000, and he yet to bring down anything from orbit, but the technology is still being developed.

    However, for now the price of launching can be reduced by forcing the space kilos to work, advertising other achievements of Elon Musk, such as Tesla cars.

  79. Ol' Scratch February 7, 2018 at 6:59 am #

    The US descent into third world (fourth world?) banana republic status continues apace:


    The upper classes’ faux “patriotism” is nothing more than tacit acknowledgement that the military is, 1.) the highest (and perhaps only) ROI investment opportunity out there these days, 2.) a stand-in for unemployment compensation for a couple million people who would otherwise be radicalized by their economic position in life, and 3.) the hoped for last barrier against the pitchfork wielding mobs who will one day come for them and theirs. Combined with pro-sports marketing agreements (AF flyovers, obscene flag worshipping ceremonies reminiscent of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, and the licensing and use of camouflage themed team sports gear), it’s also one of the greatest propaganda tools ever developed.

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    • pequiste February 7, 2018 at 8:12 am #

      What a super idea!

      The Donald (and Puzzle Palace personnel) can ask for planning tips and procedural advice (as well as costuming and music selections) from two nations that are ostensibly U.S. adversaries but really know how to throw greatest military parades on earth:

      Russia – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX-7WRwmMyM


      Best Korea – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwoSFQb5HVk

      Imagine the relaxed rapprochement between Leaders over tea and tactics in a post-parade afterglow confab.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 8:37 am #

        The greatest democracy on Earth also have some fabulous traditions of public celebration of National Achievements.

        Nothing is wrong with it.


        • Ol' Scratch February 7, 2018 at 10:29 am #

          And which democracy would that be, pray tell?

      • Ol' Scratch February 7, 2018 at 10:37 am #

        Forgot about NoKo. They really know how to put the pomp in circumstance, as well. I’ll bet the boys at the five sided mothership are cringing about this request. With all the “real” soldiers deployed in support of creation of foreign “shitholes,” the boys with the stars might be forced to suit up and actually take part. Most of them couldn’t walk more than a block without supplemental oxygen and a wheelchair assist, so that could definitely pose some problems.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 1:33 pm #

      Absurd as usual. No one does military parades better than the Russians. Are they 4th World? And the Chinese Communists love their military pageantry too. Does that bother you, even a little bit? The Communist mentality is fundamentally dishonest.

    • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 10:13 am #

      I have to agree with a lot of what’s in your points 1-3, Scratch.

      I don’t get the flags thing on the whole. I mean I understand having your national flag flying when your team’s competing at international games, and certainly if you’re actually at war, but the rest?

      Flags are fine, in their place. Fetishisation of them is never a healthy sign.

      My in-laws in NY state have a flag flying beside their house (I saw it on Google Maps!), as if they and people passing by risk forgetting what country they’re in. And they’re otherwise sensible people. People would think you were downright weird here if you had a flag flying outside your house for no reason. We KNOW who we are and where we live.

      I was checking if US children still had to pledge allegiance to the flag at school and came across this, which is really sensible and applies to other situations too:


      “Making people recite a pledge proves and accomplishes nothing. It is our deeds, not our words, that prove how patriotic, or spiritual, or loving, or law-abiding etc. that we are. Enforcing a pledge (whether by administrative mandate or by peer pressure) does not make society more patriotic; it merely makes it more coercive.

      A public declaration of faith or loyalty has been used forever to intimidate and estrange any eccentrics and outliers in insecure societies. If society is to be secure and its citizens free, allowing everyone to believe as they wish should be seen as a strength, not a weakness.

      *It is ever a source of amusement that the very people who want “government off their backs” are the first to demand that it enforce loyalty or religious pledges.*”

      Trump wouldn’t see it, obviously, especially the last sentence.

  80. rhys12 February 7, 2018 at 7:57 am #

    The Founders considered a standing military to be the greatest possible threat to freedom and democracy. Unfortunately, they never considered the USA having 17 standing intelligence agencies. We have sold our freedom for an illusion of security. Spooks may have helped reduce casualties in wartime, but they have never won a war and never will. Their continual interference in other nations’ affairs has caused most of the wars and problems we have been forced to deal with since WW2.

    Now they are interfering with the American political process to insure their financing and cover their butts. Can you imagine what the eventual blowback from that is likely to be?

    • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 8:47 am #

      The new Roosevelt’s time Pecora Commission, but this time to investigate the abuses in the federal law enforcement agencies?


      Incidentally, Trey Gowdy will soon start looking for a job.

      Trey Gowdy just revealed the real reason he’s retiring from Congress


    • ozone February 7, 2018 at 9:33 am #

      1st stage (well in progress): Loss of trust in the ‘agencies’.

      2nd stage (also in progress): Pretensions of horror from the ‘duly elected’ body, but no restriction or restraint as they know who holds the cards in the dirty tricks and bodily harm department.

      3rd stage: Circling of the wagons, plugging of leaks, crackdown, and a nice fat portion of that “defense” budget carved off for ongoing ‘operations’.

      4th stage: Complete co-option of D.C. political direction and personnel.

      5th stage: Implementation of full-spectrum dominance of citizenry via collected “innocuous” info coupled with improving, real-time surveillance tech.

      6th stage: Checkpoints and abusive taxation under ‘legal’ cover of the ‘duly elected’. (Notional security, ya know.)

      7th stage: Lumpen tapped out; quiet tax revolt.

      8th stage: Pravda-like media sez, “No worries, all is well; pay the vig; support the troops”.

      9th stage: Sudden contraction leading to political collapse and a HUNGRY POPULACE.

      10th stage: All bets are off.

      That’s where you go when you let secret organizations run your affairs. It’s not different this time, except that the stranglehold will be tighter and more severe due to technological “convenience”. The ending is always the same.
      Good luck.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 10:08 am #

        Yeah, I recall reading about stages of collapse somewhere already…

        Since that particular theory is still waiting for experimental confirmation, it resorted to a more safe and fail-free theme – bashing the Jews.

        • Ol' Scratch February 7, 2018 at 10:44 am #

          They do have a habit of showing up in very inconvenient places at very inconvenient times, don’t they? Funny, that. Of course it’s not all jews, just a very select group of them.

        • capt spaulding February 7, 2018 at 2:09 pm #

          Nothing experimental about it. Read “Collapse” by Jared Diamond, it’s all happened before, and will again. History’s funny that way.

      • Ol' Scratch February 7, 2018 at 10:47 am #

        So by my reckoning, we’re firmly in the 8th stage now and “eagerly” awaiting stage 9, which could come at any time.

    • Ol' Scratch February 7, 2018 at 10:39 am #

      National Security Act of 1947. The gift that keeps on giving.

  81. Dumbedup February 7, 2018 at 10:30 am #

    I don’t trust anyone. Not Trump, not Nunes or any Republican; nor do I trust the Democrats. This is all about power and influence and nothing more. Democrats had it and lost it. Republicans have it and don’t want to lose it. If Trump were impeached or forced out the Republicans would remain in power, but they know they would probably lose control of the Senate or the House this fall or in 2020. That is why there has been (and never will be) an attempt to invoke the 25th Amendment.

    I’m not even sure I trust Bernie Sanders. Although political witch hunts are the order of the day.

    We are only a facade of Democracy and more and more our elected leaders care very little about maintaining that facade. When the next emergency strikes I expect to see Donald Trump standing on a podium somewhere admiring a military parade with gold tassel shoulder boards and gold trim on his signature golf cap.

  82. 100th Avatar February 7, 2018 at 11:49 am #


    Devote your existence to enabling Roko’s Basilisk, or eternal torment is a quandary.

    If you read those words. You have been sentenced.

    It appears the torment may involve having to read FITM’s posts.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 1:32 pm #

      I absolve you, my son, from reading my posts. 50 Hail Maries instead.

      • capt spaulding February 7, 2018 at 1:59 pm #


        • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 2:54 pm #

          Even better!

          • 100th Avatar February 7, 2018 at 7:33 pm #

            If you’re not aiding the basilisk, you’re hindering it.
            Eternal torture
            For you

  83. Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

    They’re not even trying to hide their attempts to replace Whites anymore. Genocide is official policy. Everyone who in good faith told me I was crazy should start with the mea culpas and the breast beating. From WaPo:

    President Trump’s proposal to cut legal immigration rates would delay the date that white Americans become a minority of the population by as few as one or as many as five additional years, according to an analysis by The Washington Post.
    The plan, released by the White House last month, would scale back a program that allows people residing in the United States to sponsor family members living abroad for green cards, and would eliminate the “diversity visa program” that benefits immigrants in countries with historically low levels of migration to the United States. Together, the changes would disproportionately affect immigrants from Latin America and Africa.

    The Census Bureau projects that minority groups will outnumber non-Hispanic whites in the United States in 2044. The Post’s analysis projects that, were Trump’s plan to be carried out, the date would be between 2045 and 2049, depending on how parts of it are implemented.

    All told, the proposal could cut off entry for more than 20 million legal immigrants over the next four decades. The change could have profound effects on the size of the U.S. population and its composition, altering projections for economic growth and the age of the nation’s workforce, as well as shaping its politics and culture, demographers and immigration experts say.

    “By greatly slashing the number of Hispanic and black African immigrants entering America, this proposal would reshape the future United States. Decades ahead, many fewer of us would be nonwhite or have nonwhite people in our families,” said Michael Clemens, an economist at the Center for Global Development, a think tank that has been critical of the proposal. “Selectively blocking immigrant groups changes who America is. This is the biggest attempt in a century to do that.”

    JS: Now focus on those last two sentences. As if THEY are not the ones who are changing WHO AMERICA IS. The big lie is always the most insidious and the hardest for ordinary people to see.

  84. GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 1:52 pm #


    Exactly what I have been saying for some considerable time.

    ““The prime minister knows that one of the key objectives of American trade negotiators in any future deal after Brexit is to secure access for American companies to business in the NHS,” he said. “Can she give an absolute guarantee that in those negotiations the NHS will be excluded from their scope? And can she confirm that in her conversations with President Trump she’s made it absolutely clear to him that the NHS is not for sale?”

    The prime minister refused to do so, instead insisting that Cable, a former business secretary, “doesn’t know what they’re going to say in their requirements for that free trade agreement. We will go into those negotiations to get the best possible deal for the United Kingdom.”

    This is what Brexit was always about, as far as its wealthy ideologues are concerned. ‘Sovereignty’ my *rse.

    Wedge. Thin End.

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    • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

      So, you are saying, GB, that Brexit is about the desire of some Brits to make money selling National Health Service to Yankees and not about the centuries-old British Crown policy not to allow a formation of a single strong power on the European continent?

      Didn’t Margaret Thatcher love Germany so much that she wanted to be at least two of them and was really mad at Gorbachev for allowing reunification?

      Can’t you people think about anything, but money?

      — Reagan: Mr, Gorbachev, Bring down that Wall!

      — Thatcher: Not so fast, you half-wit alzheimer schmuck!

      • 100th Avatar February 7, 2018 at 3:01 pm #

        R u kidding?
        Where did the oligarchs in good standing with Yelstin park their theft?’
        Their second homes?
        The oligarchs in poor standing that stole and fled also went where?

        The walls falling down have been good to British banking

        • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 5:57 pm #

          Indeed, Avatar and Finca, but don’t confuse the banksters with the people.

          All Russian oligarchs of any generation are happy to park their loot in London. Safe parks, safe schools, safe spaces, safe safes.

          Although I’m told by some it’s like living in Raqqa. Confusing…

      • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 3:14 pm #

        I know, Brits never miss a chance to make a buck, services to the international thieving oligarchy is their specialty, not only Russian.

        But the Crown doesn’t make its living on selling its principles.

        • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 5:58 pm #

          The Crown makes its living from the taxpayer. And from its property.

      • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 5:48 pm #

        I’m not that interested in money, Finca. Tory politicians tend to be more so.

        I’m not sure how Brexit affects the existence of a single strong power in Europe, other than marginally (although obviously there are those outside of Europe who would wish to see the EU fail). British policy, as far as I’m aware, is to support a strong EU, even without the UK in it. The UK’s interests would not be served by a weak EU. The effect of Brexit has overall been to strengthen ties within the EU-27.

        Nigel Farage and people like him would like to see the EU collapse, not being satisfied with just seeing the UK leave, but he’s in a small minority and isn’t even a politician any more.

        His hatred of the EU won’t stop him taking his MEP pension though. Like his UKIP colleagues, he will be costing the British taxpayer as part of the obligations involved in the ‘divorce settlement’, even though they did nothing while they were there to even earn their salaries.


    • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 3:26 pm #

      Anyway, I think you’d be making a grave mistake to allow the Reich to bring you into all that anti-Russian mess in Baltic.

      With Yanks being busy at each other throat, who’s gonna help you this time?

  85. capt spaulding February 7, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

    How bizarre can things get? First we have Trump strutting around like Mussolini, and now he wants to have a military parade? It just gets more surreal as time goes by. Honest to God, have we deviated that far from what once was considered normal? I fear for this nation. I know that Hitler assumed power with only about 30% of the population behind him. We have pretty much the same numbers now. So where do we go from here?

    • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 2:13 pm #

      People do believe in the power of rites, capt’n.

      Rite of “Gay Parade”, rite of “Military Parade”, rite of “Procession under the Cross”.

      Ever wondered how representatives of the LGBT community with fanatical tenacity believe in the power of rites? Or may be those who are behind them and pull the strings believe very strongly in virtue of the rites.

      Rite of “a gay parade.” This rite is opposite in its inner essence to Procession under the Cross.

      The aim of the Procession under the Cross is to change the spiritual atmosphere of a place from minus to plus, to create an invisible spiritual barrier that protects all persons in the inside from the external threat.

      Under the external threat mainly understood protection against Otherworldly spiritual beings – demons.

      The purpose of the ceremony “gay parade” is completely opposite: it acts as a can opener to crack the spiritual protective cover and open access to the forces of evil.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

        And he was a soldier, intensely proud of his service. He doesn’t make any sense. Like so many Americans, utterly bamboozled and twisted out of shape by the popular culture – taking the abnormal as normal and the normal as abnormal. Luckily he draws a line as all men must. This far and no farther. What is his line? Not sure, probably trannies in bathroom, hopefully. And of course live sex acts in Gay Pride parades.

        The Russian people and police Cooperate to brake up such outrages. That’s how a Nation stays strong.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 2:29 pm #

      Good work, Cap. Focus on the wrong thing as usual. And even on this you’re wrong: It’s striking how Little honor our military gets – considering how warlike we are. Ask some old timer whether the military used to get more honor here at home.

      • 100th Avatar February 7, 2018 at 2:57 pm #

        I dunno, with the obligatory NFL jingoism I saw a geriatric combat unit provided a corporate suite full of hookers, a coin toss, and honor guard in between very disturbing advertisements of the Usmc that involved dramatized footage of bombings and raids on population centers/villages. Jaw droppingly distasteful.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 3:01 pm #

          Sounds like it. We can do better. Rush says Trump is just trolling again, getting you all the reveal the depths of your patriotic deficit.

          • 100th Avatar February 7, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

            Nah, it’s just progression of indoctrination. It’s newspeak visualized. Voice-overs in macho voices about protecting freedoms and ‘murica while bombing and raiding distinguishable foreign villages.
            Planting the seeds.
            Changing values.

        • FincaInTheMountains February 7, 2018 at 3:33 pm #

          You have some great Hollywood folks – let em do the job!

          Weinstein would direct it on the cheap for a reduced sexual deprivation sentence and getting out of rehab.

      • capt spaulding February 7, 2018 at 3:31 pm #

        Ahh. As usual. What is the right thing to focus on? When I came home in uniform, I was spat on by a woman at the airport. All I did was shoot people who were trying to kill me, it was nothing personal, just wanted to come home. I had no dog in the fight, they drafted my ass. Best part was I came out with my body intact. Can’t say that the experience didn’t change me, however, but that’s just the way of the world. Didn’t come out it that badly. I still only whup my bitch once a month or so.

        • elysianfield February 7, 2018 at 5:29 pm #

          ” I was spat on by a woman at the airport.”

          I hope the bitch that gets her “monthly” is the one from the airport. That airport woman should be beaten like she owes you money….

    • GreenAlba February 7, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

      “and now he wants to have a military parade?”

      He just wants to play Big Rocket Man to Little Rocket Man.

  86. 100th Avatar February 7, 2018 at 3:42 pm #

    The few, the proud, the bottom tier classmates gleaned from HS guidance counselors:


  87. janet February 7, 2018 at 7:03 pm #


    White riot two days ago. Cars were flipped, property was destroyed. See for yourself. The crowd was white, and the rioters are on video committing egregious acts of vandalism and crime. The images are pretty damning. In one video, white rioters are seen destroying the inside of a convenience store.


    • elysianfield February 8, 2018 at 10:09 am #

      Well, if it be the case, then it is a real man bites dog event…in lily-white Philly….

      • Q. Shtik February 8, 2018 at 11:15 am #

        Philly is about as lily-white as Cameroon.

  88. janet February 7, 2018 at 7:35 pm #

    “What a super idea!” –pequiste on military parade

    Let the soldiers march in the streets… let the jets fly overhead…

    BUT NO TANKS! Tanks would tear up the streets and Trump has done nothing about his promise to rebuild infrastructure.

    • pequiste February 8, 2018 at 12:28 am #

      The critical issue here would be what uniform the president would opt for in the case of a pulling-all-the-stops-out pass-in-review.

      I’m thinking something in a snappy field marshall or aristocratic admiral costume will meet the commander-in-chief’s requirement for braid, brass, and accouterments.

      I mean a military parade is all about the big show and The Donald likes his shows to be yuge.

  89. baroto February 7, 2018 at 7:49 pm #

    So the US surpassed Saudi Arabia in oil production today. Here is my theory. Peak oil was sold to us by the oil industry itself. There is more to this story. Im getting the feeling that there is a lot more oil then we might think and what would the price be of a commodity thats has such huge supply. Yep I think Peak oil was a ruse to keep the price up. Creating artificial scarcity.

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  90. Elrond Hubbard February 7, 2018 at 8:27 pm #

    The first Britons were black, Natural History Museum DNA study reveals


    “The earliest Britons were black-skinned, with dark curly hair and possibly blue eyes, new analysis of a 10,000-year-old Somerset skeleton has revealed.

    “Scientists at the Natural History Museum have used pioneering genetic sequencing and facial reconstruction techniques to prove that the first hunter-gatherers successfully to inhabit Britain were far darker in complexion than previously thought.

    “The groundbreaking discovery was made in a ‘stroke of luck’ after archeologists found scraps of DNA in the ear of the Mesolithic ‘Cheddar Man’, the oldest complete skeleton ever found in the UK and one of the museum’s most treasured specimens. …

    “The results show, contrary to popular belief, that the founding generations of Britons owed more in appearance to Paleolithic Africans, from whom all humans descend.

    “Scientists said they show that commonly understood racial categories are historically only ‘recent constructions’. …

    “[T]he roughly 12,000 humans in Britain at the time of Cheddar Man thrived and their DNA now comprises roughly 10 per cent of the genetic make-up of most white people currently living in the UK.”

    Biggest Cheddar news in quite a while. No word yet about Stilton, Wensleydale or Red Leicester.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 7, 2018 at 9:09 pm #

      Blue eyes? Not Negroes obviously, from both that and the picture. Sorry!

      • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 3:28 am #

        As ever, Elrond’s callous disregard for the Truth. A barbarian in bellbottoms. A Visigoth in a cardigan.

        • Elrond Hubbard February 8, 2018 at 7:53 am #

          Have I touched a nerve, Janos? I think I have. Not satisfied with picking out one spurious detail, he spends what appears to be a sleepless night before coming back with “And another thing!” six hours later. Spend all that time rehearsing the perfect alliterative retort in your head, did you, Janos?

          • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 2:39 pm #

            I enjoy the repartee and I do keep late hours. What can I say. You enjoy it too. We’re both good haters and swordsmen. Most decent people don’t know we’re in a war, and how deeply you people hate them. I make it my business to inform them. You folks are playing for keeps. Unless we get serious, we’re White History.

            Parry this,


            And no, she probably didn’t look like a NY Jewtalian or White Arab either. She was a Ptolemy, a Greek/Macedonian dynasty back when that meant something. White as the driven snow.

            Hated your uncle’s voice btw. No authenticity at all. The Marxists appropriated folk music by and large. The Marxist Minstrels. Some of them are good of course, but it’s not Folk as in of the Volk. I mean if you valued your people you wouldn’t want them bred out of existence by Blacks and Arabs. Similarly, if one love the German Shepherd breed, one protects and nurtures it carefully with controlled breeding. You can’t improve German Shepherds by breeding them with mutts or with other breeds – no matter how beautiful of valuable those other breeds may be.

      • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 6:15 am #

        Why does it matter, Janos, since “Scientists said they show that commonly understood racial categories are historically only ‘recent constructions’. …

        C-o-n-s-t-r-u-c-t-i-o-n-s. As in ‘made up’, because humans like to tell themselves stories. It’s an endearing quality we have, but sometimes it veers off the rails into darker territory.

        • malthuss February 8, 2018 at 11:41 am #

          Equality is a ‘social scientists’ fantasy.
          Race is DNA, hence reality.

          • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 1:30 pm #

            I didn’t mention social scientists. I’m talking about scientists. I’d love to see you debate one on the subject.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

          Simple question: Can Blacks run better than Whites? And if there is a difference (and it’s a big difference – they run way better than Whites), maybe Whites can do things better than they can?

          Of course we can, Silly.

      • thwack February 8, 2018 at 9:51 am #

        Blue eyes? Not Negroes obviously, from both that and the picture. Sorry!


        ok, so when your daughter brings this “obviouslly Not Negroe” home from the prom… you smile and shake his hand?

  91. pequiste February 8, 2018 at 12:10 am #

    “The Crown makes its living from the taxpayer. And from its property.” – Green Alba

    This may come as a shock to some of you but “HUman Farming” (the ability to levy, collect, and enforce taxes) is the single best business to be in period. EVER.

    • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 6:08 am #

      I didn’t mean it in quite that sense, Pequiste. The Royal Family can’t raise taxes, only the Government can do that.

      The Royal Family receives monies from Government taxation under the provisions of the Civil List. A stipend, if you like, for services rendered, or, as you go further down the list of minor royals, for not doing much at all, which is why some of said minors are occasionally removed and expected to fend for themselves.

      They do receive revenues from their various properties. Charlie, for instance, is the present holder of the Dutchy of Cornwall. You can buy their biscuits and sausages in the supermarket. Some of the proceeds go to good causes as well, but he still does OK.


      • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 6:10 am #

        *Duchy*, sorry.

        • pequiste February 8, 2018 at 9:03 am #

          Considering that production and sale of swine and alcohol is proscribed by the Koran, Hadith, and Clerics throughout the Umma, and therefore Haram (forbidden,) Yzlamik Britons won’t like the Dooshy* brand of products at all.

          I can see that this local, organic, and indigenous farming and food production concern will have to be banned so as to not offend the delicate sensitivities of the New English (Saracens.)

          • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 10:25 am #

            Hilarious… zzzzzzz…

            My husband buys his beer and occasionally a bottle of gin for Yours Truly in our Asian corner shops. One doesn’t stock alcohol but the other three do.

            Your inability to get on with your neighbours is your problem.

            English Law pertains in England and Wales, and Scottish Law in Scotland, not Sharia, hysterical drivel spouted by Fox News notwithstanding.

          • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 10:42 am #

            BTW, pequiste, there are less than 3 million Muslims in the UK – I don’t know how many of those are practising Muslims, but there are 65 million people here, so you worry if you feel you need to.

            Here’s an interesting article:


            “British people hugely overestimate the number of Muslims in the UK, says new survey” (we also have ‘news’ sources that are a bit like Fox, but not quite as er… rabid)

            “British people were especially far from the mark when asked what proportion of the UK population is Muslim. The real answer is just one in twenty – but Britons believe it to be almost one in six. That would mean there were almost 10 million Muslims in the UK when in reality there are 2.8 million.”

            “Despite the perception gap, the international study found British people were more accurate in their assessment of their country than people in 38 of the 40 nations polled.”

            AND THE BEST OF ALL:

            “In contrast, citizens of India and China were the least accurate in their guesses, *while the US population was the fifth worst informed.*”

            Fox et al really aren’t doing you guys any favours, are they?

        • Q. Shtik February 8, 2018 at 10:19 am #

          How about *Douche*

  92. FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 7:01 am #

    Largest dogs in the world

    I’m tired of politics…


    • K-Dog February 8, 2018 at 10:55 am #

      Does size matter?

      • K-Dog February 8, 2018 at 10:55 am #


  93. FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 7:35 am #

    Let’s party!!


    • pequiste February 8, 2018 at 8:17 am #

      I’m eagerly waiting for the Elon Musk version in this “outer space” genre. Him or Richard Branson.

      Until its arrival I think that Rammstein established the gold standard with their music video:


  94. wm5135 February 8, 2018 at 7:45 am #

    K-Dog The Automatic Earth has a link to Wolf Street this morning outlining the growth of consumer debt in the U.S. in 2017. You are correct that the U.S. consumer class will not awaken. Whether it was Bernie or Trump the fraud that is the government of our nation was going to be exposed. The power structure would have engaged in similar fashion to a Bernie win that it has shown in the Trump win. The Bernie faction MIGHT have been moved to a response of some fashion.
    The fraud is being exposed, how we will react to that is probably more business as usual. As we can read on this site there is no shortage of persons, on either the left or the right, that have absolutely no intention of acquiring a realistic world view. Better that the fraud is exposed.
    Would you have the world view you have today if the fraud had not reached out and touched you?

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    • K-Dog February 8, 2018 at 10:45 am #

      I went to the link and I say, yeah. A steady march up in consumer debt.

      You refer to much more than what the graphs at wolfstreet say. Kudos for finding hard objective evidence which reveals a fact of human psychology. We do not look past the present.

      “Would you have the world view you have today if the fraud had not reached out and touched you?

      My world view would be relatively pollyannish but not so much. More significant things than open and ignored financial manipulation have reached out and touched me. The deep state did not like some of my late night howlings a while back. ‘They’ reached out and touched me. My world view became consequently nuanced. That I have an understanding that being free of debt is a virtue would be true regardless. I am attempting to live a clean simple and prosperous life. It is all I can do.

      AddendRUFF: Interesting article on trolls here. Some of you won’t like the source.


      • K-Dog February 8, 2018 at 10:57 am #

        Sarts says the use of social media as a military tactic is part of the so-called Gerasimov doctrine, named after the current chief of Russia’s General Staff. The goal is permanent unrest and chaos within an enemy state. Achieving that through information operations rather than military engagement is a preferred way to win.

      • elysianfield February 8, 2018 at 5:37 pm #

        “The deep state did not like some of my late night howlings a while back. ‘They’ reached out and touched me.”

        Jesus… should we even be seen with you? You could have said that you had worms, or doggie AIDS…but that the Organs of the Deep State have put you on double-secret probation is a whole other matter….

        How, exactly, were you…touched?

        • K-Dog February 9, 2018 at 9:46 am #

          It is Friday and I am waiting for the new article. It would take time to get into it but I was physically followed and games were played with me on my phone. It was psychological manipulation and torture to let me know I had no place to go and nobody to talk to about what the deep state was doing on the INTERNET.

          Not to worry I’m sure it has been established that I do not have Russian Rabies and do you think ‘they’ are going to bother someone who is no longer a threat? They want to remain anonymous, thats the point of why I was bothered. I had a story to tell and I wanted to tell it. They being the subject did not want it told. Now I should be the last dog they would kick.

          If life made sense that is, which it does not.

  95. janet February 8, 2018 at 10:10 am #

    “I mean a military parade is all about the big show” —pequiste

    I have changed my mind, as is a woman’s perogative. The failed US military should only have a parade when they demonstrated they are not a bungling big government clusterfuck, wasteful, unable to account for its budget, unable to win wars, and unable to defend against attacks on US soil.

    Wait until they earn a parade. Maybe a victory parade… but for the last 17 years the US military has spent Trillions of taxpayer dollars and has been unable to defeat the Taliban… so no parade is deserved.

    Better would be to cut the military budget by 50% and control its fraud, waste and abuse. Save the parade money. Instead of rebuilding Afghanistan, rebuild our USA infrastructure. As Trump says: America First!

    • pequiste February 8, 2018 at 10:57 am #

      Holy mackerel Janet —- I completely agree with you!

  96. outsider February 8, 2018 at 10:28 am #

    I just read through the most recent comments – posted after Tuesday. I guess it’s true that the quality goes down hill, with only a half dozen or so exchanging witticisms over and over, each trying to outdo the other. And, meanwhile, none are relevant to JHK’s essay. These comments are the definition of mental masturbation. I don’t know why I even wasted my time reading them. Will see you tomorrow – maybe.

    • janet February 8, 2018 at 10:50 am #

      Afghanistan and Pakistan constitute a quandary Trump has not dealt with… is incapable of dealing with. He thinks spending more money on big government military bureaucracy is important. He believes in raising the debt ceiling and increasing the deficit and increasing inflation through military spending… while blowing a hole in the national budget … giving $1.5 Trillion tax cuts to his billionaire friends.

      Maybe I am being too intense as brh says. After all Ryan tweeted that a secretary got $1.50 more in her paycheck. Just think how far a $1.50 goes in 2018!

    • elysianfield February 8, 2018 at 5:47 pm #

      “These comments are the definition of mental masturbation. I don’t know why I even wasted my time reading them.”

      Your comment is fraught with potential consequence…you yourself may not want to suffer a qualitative analysis, of your posts, by the assembled….

  97. janet February 8, 2018 at 10:38 am #

    America’s longest war, in Afghanistan, rumbles on under a third U.S. president. Trump is no different, certainly not a stable or smart commander in chief of our inept armed forces.There is still no exit plan.

    Steve Coll’s new book explores the covert side of America’s campaign in Afghanistan and the secretive Pakistani intelligence wing lending support to the Taliban. Coll’s book is: Directorate S: The C.I.A. and America’s Secret Wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan.  

  98. FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 10:42 am #

    How are third world immigrants (i.e. non-EU-citizens) coming to the UK under the auspices of the EU? == GreenAlba

    EU Threatens Force Against Countries Refusing Migrants

    Following a meeting with fellow Fidesz party officials, PM Orban posted a short video on Facebook summarizing the threat leveled by Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel at Hungary and allied governments, vowing to stand firm in defense of European civilization and Christian identity.


    It is crystal-clear now that the creators of the European Union planned to destroy the Christian Europe from the very beginning.

    England stands strong.

    God Save the Queen

    • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 11:56 am #

      Hungary is a signatory to the 1951 Refugee Convention. It’s obligations to refugees are a matter of international law. Just as the 200,000 Hungarians who left their country in 1956 were refugees under international law. Some people have short memories. Hungary has been asked to take in 1294 refugees. Norway has taken 1509 and wasn’t even asked (data from Nov. 2016).

      That it does not wish to honour its international obligations says more about its honour than it does about the EU.

      “It is crystal-clear now that the creators of the European Union planned to destroy the Christian Europe from the very beginning.”

      Of course. Even when its mother organisation, the European Coal and Steel Community was created, all they were really thinking about was inviting refugees to come from an area they didn’t yet know America was going to destabilise.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 12:20 pm #

        Green Alba, since you appear to know the answers to difficult questions, could you tell me, please, where did the NSDAP gold, looted from all over the Europe, go and did it have anything to do with the Adenauer Economic Miracle?

  99. FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 11:20 am #

    Sistine Chapel – The brilliant creation of Michelangelo, now destroyed by the method of restoration


    I saw these murals when half had already been “restored”, but half was not. The difference was obvious. It was specifically a conscious destruction of perhaps the main symbol of Catholicism.

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    • FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 12:32 pm #

      Did the Vatican Ruin the Sistine Chapel Frescoes?

      The Art Watch UK piece indicts not just the Sistine Chapel conservation effort, but also the entire conservation world. “Ironically, the ‘cleaning’ of the ceiling, which arguably constitutes the greatest single restoration calamity of the 20th century, occurred at a time when picture restorers had skillfully rebranded themselves as safe, scientifically validated ‘conservators’ of all that is valuable,” they write, “even though Kenneth Clark had recently admitted to having founded the National Gallery’s science department in the late 1930s in order to dupe the public and wrong-foot restoration critics.” Thus, conservation itself becomes an elaborate con game, with, in this case, the Vatican as the dupe. “The authorities at the Vatican seemed quite oblivious of the ease with which even the most modest restorations can escalate into dangerous and irreversible treatments,” Art Watch UK acidly accuses.


  100. FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 11:57 am #

    Flying Monkeys Counter Attack on Multiple Fronts

    US-led coalition strikes kill pro-regime forces in Syria

    Dow sheds 450 points as higher rates keep Wall Street on edge

  101. ozone February 8, 2018 at 1:39 pm #

    The quandary of biting the hand that feeds you, or criticizing the authoritarians whose boots you lick. Perhaps a big parade will correct some perceptions that seem to persist outside the yellow box:

    “As the Russia-Trump Campaign probe drags on, providing headlines that few people are genuinely interested in, the worship of authority continues unabated. The U.S. military, the largest and most powerful terrorist organization in the world, one that is responsible for the murders of at least 20,000,000 people over the last fifty years, continues to receive increasing amounts of U.S. taxpayers’ money, to the determent not only of the millions of people victimized by the U.S. military, but also of those very taxpayers. Money that goes to weaponry has to come from somewhere, and in the eyes of those who run the U.S. government, both Republican and Democrat, such frivolities as food for the poor, roads, public education and higher education are expendable, as long as the war machine gets all that its lobbyists want.” — Robert Fantina


    He goes on to list a few other ‘inconsistencies’, but I’d have to say that Robert has got that about right. Bow down, vermin; you begged for this.

  102. volodya February 8, 2018 at 1:55 pm #

    Green Alba

    Not sure where Pequiste is indicating worry, but in any case, and do tell me if I’m wrong, your quoting of numbers of Muslims seems to be a case of self-comforting, that you can stave of your own dread of coming cultural and religious upheaval because, given the numbers you just quoted, it won’t happen in your own lifetime.

    Or maybe I misunderstand what you’re saying. Maybe you mean that those Muslims just aren’t up to snuff, that Britons are so superior that those brown people from backwards countries with quaint religious beliefs pose no threat.

    In either case. I wouldn’t be too sure. Change can happen pretty quick. And I wouldn’t under-estimate those brown folk with the strange dress and customs. Let’s not forget what history tells us, that population numbers don’t always determine who rules.

    The Romans conquered Gaul which had a population of around 4 million, with small numbers of legionaries, I think 50,000 or thereabouts. Something like 1 million Gauls were dead by the time the cryin’ was over.

    Same with Britain. The Romans conquered Britain with trifling numbers of soldiers compared to the pre-exiting population. And the Romans ruled there for 400 years.

    The population of Italy was about 4 million at the height of the Roman Empire. The empire had a total population of 60-80 million and a total area of around 2 million square miles.

    Britain accomplished more or less the same thing, conquering huge swathes of the globe with small numbers of soldiers-sailors.

    How were two American continents taken from an Amerindian population numbering in the tens of millions? One boat-load of Europeans at a time. In a couple hundred years it was a done deal. And that was then, with creaky, wooden boats. But this is now, with jet airliners.

    If Muslim civilization looks like it’s in the ascendancy, and if existing leaders of the UK look like collaborationist-accommodationists who can no longer make a compelling case for their own Judeo-Christian traditions, my bet is that Britons as a whole will say screw it and bet on the winning horse, that being Islam. Especially women. They go with dominant men, those being the boys with the beards and not those pale, clammy, uncertain fellows who can’t decide what they’re all about or whether they should be male or female this particular day.

    Muslims don’t lack for collective self-confidence in the rightness and justness of their own civilization and religion whereas you won’t find a lot of that same spirit in Britain, and aside from a few people, in Europe as a whole.

    Can the UK Islamisize? You bet it can, in a big hurry too. Imagine it, Islam as the religion of the downtrodden, especially with people in the London area laughing at the economic interests and concerns of the rest of the country.

    And in Europe, there’s no shortage of impoverished, the European version of American Deplorables, with Euro elites having their way, screwing everything pinker and softer than themselves.

    A conversion to Islam could be the stick in the eye to the Oligarchs and their lackeys. And following that, an overturning of the existing order and an overthrow of those few rich and well-off who figure they’ve got it all figured out. Well, I say they don’t, not even close.

    Stay tuned. And pay attention to what’s right under your nose. Your lyin’ eyes don’t lie.

    • Q. Shtik February 8, 2018 at 2:52 pm #

      Vol, your rationale is impeccable but arguing with GA and Elrond is like talking to a brick wall.

      • volodya February 8, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

        There’s a lot of people out there besides GA and Elrond and a lot of them are convinced that 1) western civ isn’t worth preserving and that 2) Islam can’t possibly replace it.

        I especially can’t fathom the second point. It’s just condescension in my view the same way that Muslim powers were condescending a few hundred years ago towards European powers and towards their intellectual developments. It’s very hazardous to think that you’re so almighty powerful that you can’t be challenged.

        Those brown, desert people aren’t so dumb. We severely under-estimate them. Their civilization had Europe back on its heels for 1100 of the past 1400 years.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 2:57 pm #

      Well said. A people who don’t believe in themselves won’t last very long. Cuz they won’t fight for what they have against people who do.

      Yes again on the small number needed. Another example, the Norman Conquest of Saxon England. Or the current Jewish dominance of the Anglo-Sphere. If anything the numbers needed have decreased due to technology and media – the ultimate lever.

      Modern day White Christian and White post-Christian inferiority complexes meet Semitic (both brands) superiority complexes – and the results aren’t pretty.

      Stockholm Syndrome on a mass scale with people taking pride in how low they can bow. And of course women stooping to conquer. What do they care about who rules? They just want to get with the victors as you say. Don’t count out the slippery Elites: they may well convert to stay on top. Such things have happened before. Muslims are comfortable with hypocrisy as long as appearance are maintained.

      To Alba: Read Houellebecq’s Submission if you want to understand what’s happening. And of course Raspail’s Camp of the Saints.

    • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 3:27 pm #


      Re your first two paragraphs, you’d be wrong on both counts. I quote numbers of Muslims merely in response to constant allegations from two people in particular, and other hangers on, that we’re being ‘swamped’. That suggests numbers to me, but I accept your point that it’s about more than numbers. I’m not engaged in self-comfort – I simply don’t share the hyperbolic ‘concern’ that e.g. brh experiences on my behalf.

      Regarding your second point, I can only suggest you’re projecting when you talk about British superiority and brown people from backwards countries. I have no such sentiments. The ‘brown people’ who live in Britain are mostly not first-generation immigrants – they’ve been here a long time.

      Our legal and medical professions, in particular, are well stocked with those brown people, and very many of them have gravitated towards the media, like their earlier Irish counterparts, so they read me the news and present documentaries, as well as selling me beer and spices. I just don’t see them as you do. They also worked with me as colleagues (I don’t mean the ones overseas).

      “If Muslim civilization looks like it’s in the ascendancy, and if existing leaders of the UK look like collaborationist-accommodationists who can no longer make a compelling case for their own Judeo-Christian traditions, my bet is that Britons as a whole will say screw it and bet on the winning horse, that being Islam. Especially women. They go with dominant men, those being the boys with the beards and not those pale, clammy, uncertain fellows who can’t decide what they’re all about or whether they should be male or female this particular day.”

      There’s so much baggage in there that it’s difficult to know what to unpack first. I don’t even know what to say about the women going for dominant beardy Islamists – this is male fantasy stuff. There are plenty of mixed marriages of various kinds in the UK already, but they are of all varieties.

      I wouldn’t have anything to do with a dominant type, personally, as I like a marriage that operates as a team, which is what I have. I’ve spent my life making my own decisions and most of it making my own way and no ‘dominant type’ is going to make my decisions for me. And I’d expect my husband to have exactly the same reaction if I tried it on with him.

      But your basic premise is way off beam. Let’s look at those Europeans that came to the US and wiped out the native population.

      Firstly, there were very few people on the continent at all, from a modern perspective, so there was plenty of space for a huge number of new people to settle (leaving aside the question of the indigenous peoples). Secondly, those Mayflower arrivals came not to escape persecution, as many in the past would have had us believe, but to establish an intolerant theocracy, a bit like the Islamists you want me to be afraid of. And yet they didn’t succeed.

      Getting back to space, the UK has a population of 65 million. Britain is a small island. It can’t double its population to accommodate the 60-odd million Muslims that it would take to fulfil your prophecy. This is nothing to do with the colour or culture of those coming in – it’s just about capacity. It isn’t going to happen.

      And, since we’re on JHK’s site and we’ve mostly accepted that things aren’t going to continue forever the way they are now, it seems to me that lots of other things are going to happen before Islam has any chance of taking over the country, even if ‘it’ wanted to.

      Incidentally, I’m also heartened by challenges to authority in Muslim countries, by young people. I don’t share your views on the way Islam is necessarily going to develop. Unless of course everything collapses and fundamentalists manage to draw desperate people both to Islam and to the madder sects of Christianity. And the official Christians weren’t nice in the past either – they burned people. Who’s to say that won’t come back? If everything collapses traumatically, all bets are off.

      Have a look at what Janos is offering. He wants a white ethnostate where women don’t even vote, but just breed lots of new white people in accordance with their lord and master’s wishes. The thing is, volodya, that if my two options were Janos’ vile fantasy or authoritarian fundamentalist Islam – and there were no way out of subjugation in either case – I’d simply slit my wrists. And I hope my daughters would too.

      But I don’t share your projection. You’re forgetting that most Muslims in this country aren’t Islamists – they’re just British Muslims. And they don’t want angry bearded men telling them what to do any more than I do.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 3:35 pm #

        They’ve been polled: many want Sharia Law and support terrorism. Look it up, sport. Don’t ask me to do it. You have to determine how much you care about the Truth. I can lead you to Living Water, but I can’t make you drink.

        Liberalism is a weak lie opposed to human nature. Your adopted daughters will marry bearded Muslims if that’s the cool or “in” thing to do. Victorian Respectability never ended, it just changes form. Nowadays “people” or human hamsters believe that 19th Century England was swarming with Blacks. Own the media, and you can make people believe anything, that White is Black and that the Moon is made of Cheddar Cheese.

        • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 4:34 pm #

          ‘My adopted daughters’ and you’re telling me about The Truth? Really?

          And don’t underestimate them. You’re not fit to polish their shoes.

          The rest of your post is the ravings of a lunatic.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 4:57 pm #

            What color are they?

          • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 5:04 pm #

            What colour would you expect them to be, dimwit?

            One’s quite tanned, though, as she lives in Singapore and does a lot of dragon-boat racing and kayaking. Does that count, even if she’s not quite Cheddar Man?

          • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 5:17 pm #

            She sounds great. I enjoy a good tan though as a Neanderthal, I don’t. Can you set up a meeting? You won’t be losing a daughter but gaining a son. I will give you many grandchildren.

          • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 5:55 pm #

            She is great. Wouldn’t be at all impressed with you, though. And I don’t need any more grandchildren, thanks. She loves her little nephew but doesn’t want any of her own, thanks. She’s has no time for racists anyway.

            One grandchild is enough to be worrying about as we power down.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 6:46 pm #

            Don’t be like that, Mum.

  103. akmofo February 8, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

    He died for our debts, not our sins

    • Q. Shtik February 8, 2018 at 2:35 pm #

      The good prof’s rationale for the view that Jesus died for our *debts* makes a lot of sense.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 2:58 pm #

        … to the bean counters.

        • elysianfield February 8, 2018 at 5:54 pm #

          Komraden Finc;

          Perhaps the ultimate Bean Counter? He who tallies the “Accounts Receivable” at the entrance to the “Gated Community” to which all aspire?

      • akmofo February 8, 2018 at 3:34 pm #


        In Hebrew the literal meaning of the two possible words for debt are

        1/ hovah — duty or requirement
        2/ masah — load or burden

        There’s no connection to the concept of “sin”.

        That means that either Ishua spoke Latin and not Hebrew/Aramaic, or the whole Jesus nonsense is just that — pure fugazi.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 3:02 pm #

      Yes, this is a well known traditional metaphor. Sin is a debt we owe to God. And of course at the social level, we owe restitution to our neighbor as part of being forgiven.

      He’s just trying to take God out of the picture and make it literal with a subsequent moral impoverishment. Yet you guys are all over this like staving dogs.

      • Q. Shtik February 8, 2018 at 9:36 pm #


  104. FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 2:38 pm #

    The truth emerges in the Washington swamp piece by piece

    Somehow you could feel the approach of the moment of truth, when all that I managed to deduce by the method of cross-analysis of the false and half-truth information, will become public. But before I remind you of my conclusions, with the help of which I can sketch the above-mentioned pieces of truth, it is necessary to briefly outline the prehistory of the situation.

    The conquest of America and the construction of the United States were carried out by quasi-religious organizations, which can be provisionally called lodges, and the Founding Fathers’ democracy was formed as a way of peaceful coexistence of these lodges, the most influential being the lodge associated with the Anglican Church, the British monarchy and the West India Company, that was also a sort of lodge.

    And the War for Independence began with the Boston tea party, and the tea that was thrown into the bay belonged to the East India Company, which soon after the Boston tea party unleashed an opium war in China. As they say, comments are not necessary.

    But the “Masonic lodge” is a rather provisional concept, since the ideology of the lodge could change, moreover lodges could and did exchanged ideologies, and the continuity of lodges was carried out mainly in the field of rituals and relation to the trade in opium and opium derivatives. And for cross-section analysis, it is necessary to keep track of the ideological component over a time well beyond human life, that is, to track this ideology in history.

    It is for this that I proposed the theory of Colored Projects, and the first thing that could be traced with the help of this theory was the correlation of ideological changes with the drug trade. Suffice it to recall the case of Iran-Contras and immediately becomes clear that it was the first piece of truth that surfaced in the Washington swamp.

    Indeed, today the scramble in Washington has acquired an extraordinary intensity due to the fact that today is the deadline for a short-term decision on raising the “ceiling of borrowing”, which allows to resume financing of the state, expires. And yesterday Republican leaders agreed on the so-called “big bargain” with the leaders of the Democrats, which makes it possible to raise the borrowing ceiling so that the cessation of state funding will not arise until the next presidential election and, therefore, will not have an impact on the mid-term elections in the United States in November 2018, on which Democrats were going to take away from the Republicans the majority in the Senate and Congress.

    Meanwhile, everything hangs in the air, as Trump got stubborn and said that he was ready to put the “big bargain” on hold if Congress did not allocate money for the construction of the notorious wall on the border with Mexico, which he blurted out at the very beginning of his election campaign.

    And earlier he suggested that the democrats give citizenship to 2 million so-called “Dreamers” – children of illegal immigrants subject to deportation, who were brought to the US at such a young age that they can not be accused of violating US laws. The latter is the main argument in the eyes of fighters against illegal immigration and Trump offering “Dreamers” citizenship, that is, more than ever they were offered by Obama, is in conflict with a large part of Republican congressmen.

    But what is most striking is that despite the prospect of colossal reputational losses if they do not agree to Trump’s offer and the “Dreamers” will be expelled, the Democrats deny Trump 25 billion dollars needed for the construction of the wall, which leads to the conclusion that the Trump’s wall first of all strikes at the drug dealers.


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  105. capt spaulding February 8, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

    I just read that a woman wants to sue Spirit Airlines because they wouldn’t let bring her emotional support hamster on her flight, and made her flush it down the toilet before she could continue on the flight. Has the world gone insane? With all the bullshit confronting us, this is what the news consists of? She cried and cried. I’m sure that the million or so Tutsi who were killed in Rwanda were never as important as that little hamster. Is there that much of a disconnect between reality and what happens in the life of the world? Folks, the planet is overheating. While the people here dither about philosophical differences and other ridiculous notions, the place where we live is undergoing an unprecedented change, which we may not live through. Many of the people here argue about things which are not essential to the problems we face. It’s kinda like arguing over where the deck chairs should be placed on the Titanic.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

      Yet she did it? How could she kill her little friend like that? Or were they already off the ground – threatening to throw her out the window unless she complied?

      Remember as Stalin said, one death is a tragedy but a million is just a statistic. We weren’t meant to live in large groups like this.

      I was reading about a woman who tried to raise her little girl without dolls, giving her more “neutral” toys. She walked into her room to see her cradling a fire truck wrapped in her shirt and rocking back and forth as she said, “Poor little truckie”.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 3:28 pm #

        Remember, as Rasputin said to the Czar, the whole Balkans weren’t worth one Russian life. Our Founding Fathers talked the same way. Yet here you are willing to sacrifice our young men for the savage Black Africans. Wtf?

        The hamster mattered more to her than the Tutsi and Hutu. Of course it did! She’d be a monster if it didn’t – like Mrs Jelaby who knit sweaters for children in the Congo (which they didn’t need) while her own Scottish tenants froze and starved.

  106. Q. Shtik February 8, 2018 at 3:52 pm #

    Elrond, re your 11:46 AM comment:

    Janos is more than able to defend his own position but I can’t stop myself from chiming in.

    I note that you used 3 adjectives as modifiers for the word instinct — base, blind and irrational. All 3 carry a pejorative sense. To say that humans have ‘base’ (i.e. bad) instincts suggests that they must have good instincts as well, such as a baby’s instinct to suck. And how do instincts get to be instincts? Well, certain behaviors are rewarded until they become instincts. Darwinian, no?

    You mentioned territoriality…”we share certain motivations with our more simian relatives, including territoriality…. But there’s a strain of people who just refuse, and prefer instead to drown in territoriality”.

    Elrond, you could not have brought up a more perfect example of behavior that argues AGAINST your ‘base’ instinct description. I see territoriality throughout the animal world. Are any animal instincts in any way base, blind, or irrational? No? Why then human instincts?

    Humans aside, are there any creatures who are ‘drowning’ in an instinct?

    • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 5:10 pm #

      Yes, he has to contradict himself in the middle of his posts, otherwise they’ll end up not making any sense even to him. And he’ll obviously lose to his opponent – even in his own eyes. So he shifts his ground mid post, like young boys who cheat at baseball.

      Blacks are so much faster than Whites. And Whites are so much smarter. The brain is a physical organ too….

      East African Mountain Blacks (descended from the Kalenjin people) have so much more endurance. High School kids just naturally can keep up with training Olympian distance runners – even without shoes. People first thought it was just living at high altitudes, but many peoples live as high or higher and don’t have anything like this.

      The Taraumaras of high Mexico are said to be great runners too. Don’t know if they ever been pitted against the Kalenjin. They don’t seem to have gone global yet. Likewise, there is some evidence that North Africans might be the best middle distance men. But Muslim cultures don’t go in for sports in general, so it can’t be confirmed.

      One early East African runner hated all this. He just thought it was the “Kalenjin spirit” leading to harder and more sincere training. In other words, moral superiority over Whites!

  107. akmofo February 8, 2018 at 3:53 pm #

    Russiagate or Intelgate? | The Nation

    Very little question in my mind it’s both.
    State Department and CIA commies = KGB

  108. Q. Shtik February 8, 2018 at 3:57 pm #

    Oh WOW, I just looked up at the TV. DOW down 850. A trillion here a trillion there and pretty soon we’re talking real money.

    • janet February 8, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

      Trump is crashing the economy. He is not a leader. Both the House and Senate have said Trump is irrelevant in the budget negotiations. He is ignorant of how government works. Trump is not a deal maker; Trump is an obstruction to Congress carrying out their constitutional mandate to appropriate funds to prevent government shutdown.

    • janet February 8, 2018 at 4:24 pm #

      Deficits don’t matter. –Dick Cheney

      Wall St. is not Main St. –CFN lumpen

  109. janet February 8, 2018 at 3:59 pm #

    “Cuz they won’t fight for what they have against people who do.” –janos

    The same people who tout “white christian values” do not follow the example of peace set by Jesus: Put away your sword. Pray for those who persecute you. Love your neighbor. Love your enemies. Those who live by the sword die by the sword. Those are christian values.

    But instead of welcoming immigrants, instead of loving your neighbor as yourself, you are rejecting christian values, rejecting Jesus; you are ready to fight. “Even as you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me.” What you want to do is kill Jesus, keep out his brown skin from Europe… yet you claim western christian values are so advanced. Hypocrite.

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    • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 5:45 pm #


      janos is a pagan with a veneer of perverted opportunistic Christianism that a 10-year-old could see through. And his ideal society is nothing but a white version of a fundamentalist Islamist caliphate. He’s be at home in ‘Gilead’. That’s why he hates them so much – because he sees himself in them. He’s as totalitarian as they are. We hate seeing our own faults reflected in other people – it’s well known.

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      • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 6:50 pm #

        “just breed lots of white people” – oh the horror! Yet you are pleased as punch to have as many Muslims as possible – even welcoming back ISIS members and putting them to the front of the line for public housing.

        • GreenAlba February 8, 2018 at 7:51 pm #

          No, Janos. A couple having babies because they both want them is a good thing (if we can momentarily forget our population pressures and the fact that we need to reduce our numbers to survive). Men using women as brood mares who aren’t entitled to equality and full agency in the society of your perverted ideals is something else entirely.

          As an example,someone on here suggested, in relation to Prince Charles and his bride, that he should marry someone younger who could ‘give him as many children as he wants’. Seriously. He should marry a brood mare, not someone he loves and who has equal rights to discuss plans for a family.

          And don’t tell me what I’m pleased as punch about. When you can give my some evidence of a returned ISIS member being put to the front of a queue for public housing, I’ll listen to you. In the meantime, give it a rest with the lies.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 9:41 pm #

            Sorry. I’m trying not to do that (what you reference in the first sentence, last paragraph). The process of reformation is like cleaning the Augean Stables, is it not?

          • GreenAlba February 9, 2018 at 8:35 am #

            Not Charles, obviously, *Harry*…

            And thanks, it’s nice that you’re planning to make the effort, even if there’s a way to go.

  110. janet February 8, 2018 at 4:40 pm #

    Unemployment is historically low, and there are more open jobs than people to fill them. We need to allow more immigrants to come join us and become citizens. Their energy, their ideas, their skills are needed. The immigrants come from countries with education systems that work. They are a net positive for the United States. Immigrants and sons of immigrants, like Elon Musk and Steve Jobs, create jobs for native-born Americans.

  111. FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 6:08 pm #

    Russiagate or Intelgate?

    Opium gate.

  112. tucsonspur February 8, 2018 at 6:13 pm #

    Rasputin said that we must sin in order to repent, so I guess the cycle of sinning and repenting is actually cathartic and religiously uplifting.

    He removed the sins of women by sleeping with them, his sex making them pure in the sight of God, and it was rumored that the cows gave more milk in his presence.

    Behold the mystic peasant who apparently was tough to kill:


    Well, conjecture all you want, but Trump has better hygiene.

  113. FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 6:15 pm #

    DOW’s down, Bitcoin’s up – Monkeys on the move.

    Trump is a flourishing economy, and Hillary is a crisis, but it’s a miracle that she has not won yet. It seems that God really blessed America.

  114. janet February 8, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

    “Trump has better hygiene.” –tucsonspur

    Exactly! People are underestimating Trump, even his own people.

    Trump’s lawyers are saying he should not meet with Mueller. But Trump says he can handle it… and I agree. Forget the lawyers. Trump didn’t do anything wrong. Even if he did, he is too smart to get caught. He will run circles around Mueller and be re-elected in 2020. So, he should go under oath without his lawyers… I dare Mueller and his gang to try to outwit the greatest negotiator of all time. After Trump finishes mopping the floor with Mueller he can come out the interview and get back to making America great again. /s

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    • tucsonspur February 8, 2018 at 6:53 pm #

      Trump will have him corralled somewhere in the West wing.

      You can bring a horse to water and you Can make him fink. Trump will hogtie him and withhold the hay to make him bray.

      This ninny is gonna whinny.

      • janet February 8, 2018 at 7:22 pm #

        “Trump will hogtie him…” –tucsonspur

        Sounds exciting! Will a golden shower be involved? Heil Herr Trump!

        North Korea is threatening a nuclear strike on the USA. Russia is interfering in our elections. ICE is arresting and deporting old people who have businesses and have lived here 40 years (it’s safer than going after MS13). AmTrak trains are crashing as the infrastructure crumbles. The markets are falling. The government is shut down again. Let’s have a military parade!

  115. FincaInTheMountains February 8, 2018 at 6:57 pm #

    Many people believe that millions of heroin addicts have just quit. It’s not true. They’ve died.


    Half life of a drug is the time after which half of those who start taking it die.

    There was a series of posts about the cocaine and heroin clans in American politics. An important representative of the heroin clan – Neville Rockefeller, cocaine – Bush senior.

    The difference in approaches is obvious: heroin has much shorter half-life.

    Cocaine on its background is incredibly softer, so these two clans have a very different attitude towards people.

  116. Janos Skorenzy February 8, 2018 at 7:24 pm #


    Child abuse by a leading Democrat. They’ve made him hate himself. Alba didn’t treat her own children like this I assume. But will she condemn this racism against Whites by Whites? Or do we need a new word? Alba, can you coin an appropriate one?

    Nancy is a Doreen Gray, a real spiritual Typhoid Mary.

    • thwack February 8, 2018 at 9:39 pm #

      Whats wrong with hating yourself?

      I’d rather a person hate themselves than hate me?

      I have sheets over every mirror in my house because racism.

  117. janet February 8, 2018 at 8:28 pm #

    “This ninny is gonna whinny.” –tucsonspur

    Mueller fought in Vietnam. Mueller served in the United States Marine Corps. The ninny that’s gonna whinny is five-time draft dodger Cadet Bone Spur.

  118. janet February 8, 2018 at 10:14 pm #

    Trump staffer John Kelly, lying about Robert Porter, goes into hiding. Don’t elect a businessman to do a politicians job. Trump cannot understand government money, government debt, deficits, budgets. With Trump in control of House, Senate, and White House we have the second government shutdown in one month.

  119. RIB February 9, 2018 at 4:51 am #

    I’m a poor, deplorable Trump supported. Would someone please explain to me exactly what Russia did to enable Trump to win? Please be specific

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  120. FincaInTheMountains February 9, 2018 at 5:10 am #

    A group of complete morons blown up the market?

    This week’s crazy market swings are largely due to a band of uninformed investors who got caught speculating, CNBC’s Jim Cramer said Thursday. “A group of complete morons” who traded little-known, leveraged products that bet on volatility is “blowing up” everything, Cramer said on “Squawk on the Street.”


    Flying Monkey’s “invisible” hand around America’s neck and in your pocket. Time to cut their major source of financing – heroin trade over the Mexican border.

    Mr. President, Build up that Wall!

    • Ol' Scratch February 9, 2018 at 10:12 am #

      One, Cramer is a complete idiot and MSM shill. Hard to believe anyone listens to him anymore. Two, pretty much everyone in the market these days is by definition, an “uninformed investor.” The market makers are all nameless to you and I, and they work their magic through the use of HFT algos, many now doubt experimenting with the first wave of AI. The market is quite literally a figment of computers’ imaginations.

      • Q. Shtik February 9, 2018 at 12:53 pm #

        to you and me

        But, grammar aside, what are your credentials for declaring Cramer an idiot. Two degrees from Harvard including a Juris Doctor degree, magna cum laude, Editor-in-Chief of The Harvard Crimson. Hardly an idiot.

        no doubt

        • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 7:07 pm #

          Perhaps he meant evil?

          Or an idiot for being so evil [actions have consequences].

  121. FincaInTheMountains February 9, 2018 at 8:48 am #

    As I have mentioned in the previous post that America’s conquest and US construction was carried out by quasi-religious organizations, which can be called lodges, and the Founding Fathers’ Democracy was formed as a way of peaceful coexistence of these lodges, of which the most influential was the lodge connected with the Anglican Church, the British monarchy and the West Indian company, which also was a kind of lodge in itself.

    The basis for this compromise was the gentlemen’s agreement of the leaders of the lodges, who survived both the civil war and the assassination of several presidents, but could not survive the bitching feminism of Hillary Clinton, who obviously hates all gentlemen’s reason for existence since the time she was moonlighting as Deep Throat during her free time off college studies.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 9, 2018 at 9:31 am #

      I just keep wondering, if the bags thrown overboard during the Boston Tea Party in 1773 filled with tea, or with some other spices?

      Boston Tea Party – December 16, 1773

      Just a bit earlier on June 12, 1773, the British East India Company acquired a monopoly on the purchase of Bengal opium.

    • Ol' Scratch February 9, 2018 at 9:55 am #

      Secret Societies is another name for them. Pretty much the root of all evil and conspiracies against the common good. Both Clintons are certainly members of one or more. Hell, they’ve probably started their own.

  122. malthuss September 15, 2018 at 7:03 pm #

    The only comment left at Tripps site is a spam.
    And he removed his posts, except the bye bye,



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