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With spring, things come unstuck; an unspooling has begun. The turnaround at the FBI and Department of Justice has been so swift that even The New York Times has shut up about collusion with Russia — at the same time omitting to report what appears to have been a wholly politicized FBI upper echelon intruding on the 2016 election campaign, and then laboring stealthily to un-do the election result.

The ominous silence enveloping the DOJ the week after Andrew McCabe’s firing — and before the release of the FBI Inspector General’s report — suggests to me that a grand jury is about to convene and indictments are in process, not necessarily from Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s office. The evidence already publicly-aired about FBI machinations and interventions on behalf of Hillary Clinton and against Donald Trump looks bad from any angle, and the wonder was that it took so long for anyone at the agency to answer for it.

McCabe is gone from office and, apparently hung out to dry on the recommendation of his own colleagues. Do not think for a moment that he will just ride off into the sunset. Meanwhile, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, have been sent to the FBI study hall pending some other shoes dropping in a grand jury room. James Comey is out hustling a book he slapped together to manage the optics of his own legal predicament (evidently, lying to a congressional committee). And way out in orbit beyond the gravitation of the FBI, lurk those two other scoundrels, John Brennan, former head of the CIA (now a CNN blabbermouth), and James Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence, a new and redundant post in the Deep State’s intel matrix (and ditto a CNN blabbermouth). Brennan especially has been provoked to issue blunt Twitter threats against Mr. Trump, suggesting he might be entering a legal squeeze himself.

None of these public servants have cut a plea bargain yet, as far as is publicly known, but they are all, for sure, in a lot of trouble. Culpability may not stop with them. Tendrils of evidence point to a coordinated campaign that included the Obama White House and the Democratic National Committee starring Hillary Clinton. Robert Mueller even comes into the picture both at the Uranium One end of the story and the other end concerning the activities of his old friend, Mr. Comey. Most tellingly of all, Attorney General Jeff Sessions was not shoved out of office but remains shrouded in silence and mystery as this melodrama plays out, tick, tick, tick.

None of this makes President Trump a more reassuring figure. His lack of decorum remains as awesome as his apparent lack of common sense. But he has labored against the most intense campaign of coordinated calumny ever seen against a chief executive and his fortitude, at least, is impressive. What is unspooling for him, and the body politic, are the nation’s finances, and the dog of an economy that gets wagged by finance. Yesterday’s 724-point dump in the Dow Jones Industrial Average is liable to not be a fluke event, but the beginning of a cascade into the pitiless maw of reality — the reality that just about everything is grossly mispriced.

There is plenty of dysfunction in plain sight to suggest that the financial markets can’t bear the strain of unreality anymore. Between the burgeoning trade wars and the adoption in congress this week of a fiscally suicidal spending bill, you’d want to put your fingers in your ears to not be deafened by the roar of markets tumbling. A 40 to 75 percent drop in the equity markets will leave a lot of one-percent big fish gasping on the beach as the tide rolls out. But the minnows and anchovies will suffer too, as regular economic activity declines in response to tumbling markets. And then the Federal Reserve will ride to the rescue with QE-4, which will very sharply drive the dollar toward worthlessness. The result: a nation with a sucking chest wound, whirling around the drain en route to political pandemonium.

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  1. Cavepainter March 23, 2018 at 9:32 am #

    Recognize in the comments posted here at JFK’s site what is described in the following?

    victorhanson.com/wordpress/my-war-with-russian-trolls/#more-11071

    • FincaInTheMountains March 24, 2018 at 1:46 am #

      Recognize in the comments posted here at JFK’s site what is described in the following

      Do you really think that “janet” and “janos” are Russian hackers?!

      Unbelievable!!

  2. jdhines March 23, 2018 at 9:33 am #

    JHK goes further and further down the hard right-wing rabbit hole.

    JD

    • Cavepainter March 23, 2018 at 9:40 am #

      Yeah, we’ll have Mueller turn his attention to this. Uh huh, told you so.

    • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 9:53 am #

      “Left” and “right” are both canards for dolts. There’s no such thing anymore.

      • venuspluto67 March 23, 2018 at 10:02 am #

        Yeah, the left/right spectrum is the political equivalent of angora sweaters and bobby-socks. The Political Compass is the way to go, these days! 🙂

        • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 10:10 am #

          ****************
          Our essential point is that Left and Right, although far from obsolete, are essentially a measure of economics. As political establishments adopt either enthusiastically or reluctantly the prevailing economic orthodoxy — the neo-liberal strain of capitalism — the Left-Right division between mainstream parties becomes increasingly blurred. Instead, party differences tend to be more about identity issues. In the narrowing debate, our social scale is more crucial than ever.
          ****************

          Nice!

          • Dumbedup March 23, 2018 at 11:07 am #

            Oh, that is a jewel Scratch.

            I don’t have a problem with a true progressive liberal focusing on the issues that face minorities. How else does a democracy protect the powerless and improve their conditions? I do have a problem with commoditizing them for profit. That’s what neo-liberals have done.

          • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 12:17 pm #

            That was a quote from venuspluto67’s Political Compass link above, by the way.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 2:09 pm #

            Minorities but not poor, powerless Whites. Oh Dumbed, you are seen for who you are. A Bernie Bot.

            Bernie Sanders once said, in a moment of “genius”, Whites don’t know what it means to be poor.

          • sophia March 23, 2018 at 11:27 pm #

            Well I’m white, and we were homeless when I was 12. I was in the gifted class, but we had no money for college. I wanted to play piano, but never told my mother because I was sure we couldn’t afford one. There are people who were poorer than us, of course, but I do get a little mad about being called privileged.

        • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 10:38 am #

          They have been canards for dolts for decades now. I also find the political compass to be bullshit. I’m pretty much unclassifiable as is anyone else who actually thinks and lets evidence and not ideology lead the way to truth.

          • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 12:18 pm #

            More and more of us are getting there, as politics have completely broken down in the US these days. By design.

    • Elrond Hubbard March 23, 2018 at 9:56 am #

      JHK referring to a “wholly politicized FBI upper echelon” as if this is news is rather funny, considering that the FBI is the house J. Edgar Hoover built. Things didn’t change after Hoover died, either — does anyone recall that it was Mark Felt, #2 at the Bureau in the aftermath of Hoover’s death, who fed Bob Woodward the intelligence that helped bring down Richard Nixon? And Felt wasn’t acting from any patriotic motive, to protect America from a crook; he was pushing back at the pressure Nixon was putting on his organization. Washington, D.C. has never exactly been an Arcadia of clean institutions.

      JHK: “James Comey is out hustling a book he slapped together to manage the optics of his own legal predicament (evidently, lying to a congressional committee).”

      Oh, lying to Congress is a problem again? Someone better tell John Brennan over on his blabbermouth couch at CNN. He lied to Congress about the CIA spying on them a few years back and has been very publicly getting away with it ever since.

      • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 10:06 am #

        Lying’s the new truth!

        • dannyboy March 23, 2018 at 10:15 am #

          Liar’s and Crooks. Kick ’em all out!

        • JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 11:56 am #

          Lie enough times and it becomes the truth! The motto of the Democratic Party.

      • Walter B March 23, 2018 at 11:11 am #

        Way to go Elrond, we must never let the legacy of J Edgar be forgotten. The FBI has NOTHING to show in the way of proof that they have ever recovered from the insult to America that Hoover’s incompetence so firmly established. In fact, the entire Comey affair is substantial evidence that J Edgar’s spirit is alive and well within the halls of shame that the FBI operates from.

      • Cavepainter March 23, 2018 at 12:30 pm #

        “Rather funny” you say Elrond? Rather, instead, emphasizing necessity of referencing historical precedent for demonstrating to following generations the genius of our Westernized form of government, formulated as it was in recognition that human nature (in all of its dispositions) doesn’t change but is ever manifest in the course of all societies, and on that account it serves better than any other yet devised through its institutionalized means of correction to balance. Tendentiousness toward partisan Utopian “isms” whether secular or religious, all contend a “rapture” of sorts among those of “true belief”, ushering in perpetual harmony.

    • pequiste March 23, 2018 at 9:56 am #

      JHK jumped into the gaping maw of the Rabbit Hole, which is not a right-wing or left-wing fantasy or hallucination, but the concrete actuality of the present socio-economic-political-military America. Jim was “Red Pilled” somehow. It would be up to our host to explain who played his Morpheus.

      youtube.com/watch?v=zE7PKRjrid4

    • James Howard Kunstler March 23, 2018 at 10:32 am #

      JDHines — Interesting that you view the verified misconduct at the FBI as a “right wing” issue. Should the Left not be concerned about it? Or is it just too inconvenient to acknowledge?

      • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 11:12 am #

        Because if they were put someone you did not like under surveillance you would not consider it misconduct and would not give a shit. Your selective attention makes it an issue.

        • jdhines March 23, 2018 at 3:45 pm #

          KD

          You raise an important point that I had not fully considered. I agree that it does appear one-sided and one should endeavor to be aware of one’s blind spots. It does become an issue.

          JD

      • DrTomSchmidt March 23, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

        You might like the current read, JHK. The Devil’s Chessboard goes into the background of CIA opposition to JFK. There are strong implications of the cia involvement in the conspiracy to kill Kennedy.

        If Brennan and Comey also plotted a coup against Trump, that’s the best reason I’ve ever seen for the Left to support Trump. It was wrong in 1963, and it’s no less wrong now.

        You’d like some of the quotes in the book, especially 60s-era NY Times writers talking about, for example, Patrice Lumumba. They were suckups to the CIA then and they haven’t really stopped.

      • jdhines March 23, 2018 at 3:40 pm #

        JHK

        Yes, you are correct that I have selective outrage. Please excuse my particular “lenses.” The Left should no doubt be concerned with malfeasance against any party. It is painful and inconvenient to acknowledge, but if truly verified that there was/is a plot against Trump, it must be condemned as much as the plots against Allende, Lumumba, Diem, etc. and the help afforded to Mobutu, the Shah, etc.

        I hear you, but has the misconduct been truly verified or are these just convenient counter-accusations made by GGG and allies?

        JD

    • thenuttyneutron March 23, 2018 at 10:52 am #

      Jdhines.

      Pull the wool from off your face and look at what is going on around you. Kunstler is not going down the right wing rabbit hole! He simply failed to move in step with the left as they went insane. The left is now far left and completely fucking insane.

      I hate how things have gone down in the USA. The ultra far left is working overtime to strip us of our civil liberties. Free speech is now evil in their eyes. Their desire to strip Americans of guns is now stronger than ever.

      I am just happy that the right wingers are no longer pushing their jesus bullshit on us like they did 15 years ago.

      The left has gone bananas. While I recognize that there are people that don’t feel like their gender matches the outward appearance, this does not automatically mean that we need more than 3 genders designations. Male/Female and “other” are all that we need. I say male and female because those are the only genders that will procreate and continue the species. The “other” is sufficient to capture the people that feel like they are an attack helicopter or other crazy shit. Can we just say male/female and other if you don’t identify with being a normal cis-gender person?

      -TNN

      • Dumbedup March 23, 2018 at 11:12 am #

        The left is not far left. The left is now the right. Everything is for profit. The only difference is how the 2 sides stay in power. One appeals (for profit only) to immigrants, the poor, minorities and the others whose vote they need. The other appeals to clinical bigotry and American corporatocracy for the votes they need.

        • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 11:52 am #

          You have it right. Neither persuasion is about egalitarian standards for all, or unity, or genuine change, or forward progress. Americans of almost all persuasions now advocate some sort of social stratification as societies natural order or arrangement. Democracy and egalitarianism are now dead concepts in America. Democracy in America now means shut up and listen to me. Democracy has become about ‘getting your share’, nothing more. It is no longer about respecting other points of view.

          Our cultural zeitgeist of getting as much as you can for yourself was institutionalized by Madison avenue fifty years ago as American church doors were shuttered and the morality of madmen is now firmly established as the overarching dominant American character.

          Zillions of advertisements have drumbeat a culture of mindless consumerism and selfishness into the noggins of the American brain so that anything else now seems weird. Being American now stands for nothing but sucking the world dry of everything it has to offer with no thought of putting anything back for the future.

          One persuasion, the traditional conservative wants it all for themselves without any thought of sharing. Nothing new about that except that in these times these folks seem more honest since their position is transparent to those who can see.

          The other side, the neo-liberal conservative in disguise wants a taxonomy of all minority groups in existence made so that all special rights and needs of everyone no matter how quaint anachronistic or self serving are identified and protected at the expense of everyone else. An odd situation of nobody being free because everyone is free results from their particular madness. From their point of view freedom means ‘party on’ and nothing else.

          Few actually want something better. Most just want a bigger slice of the pie cut to their particular ideological specifications. Contemplating fairness is consider naive.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 2:12 pm #

            Equal treatment of unequal people is tyranny. Let people find their own level. It will be Whites and East Asians on top. The two will fight for dominance – which is why this gifted people should have never been allowed anywhere near the West.

            They kicked us out of the East after all. They have commonsense.

          • GreenAlba March 23, 2018 at 5:26 pm #

            “Equal treatment of unequal people is tyranny. Let people find their own level. ”

            Treating people equally is exactly how you let them find their own level. So if everyone could benefit from the fancy schools that rich people go to, you’d find out which of the successful people were successful because of their own talents and hard work and which were successful just because they had an excessive amount of money spent on their education.

            It wouldn’t solve the problem of rich people having ready-made networks to help them advance, but it would be a start.

            Not that it’s ever going to happen, but you only find your own level if you start off on a level playing field.

            That way the cream will rise to the top through its own talents and efforts (although, sadly, scum rises to the top too, through other mechanisms).

          • Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 9:18 pm #

            No. You folks refuse to accept that Blacks are dumber are more violent. You actually end up blaming Whites for Black misbehavior and poor performance. Liberals “know” the answers ahead of time and eager to fudge the actual results to make them accord with what they “know” the results are supposed to be.

          • GreenAlba March 23, 2018 at 9:26 pm #

            Janos, you’re so full of it your boots squelch.

          • SpeedyBB March 24, 2018 at 9:53 am #

            Janos ‘Skorzeny’ (for those who have not read a bio, whoever this contributor is has selected one of the most interesting combatants of WW II for his nom de plume or nom de loon) wrote ‘Whites and East Asians on top. The two will fight for dominance – which is why this gifted people should have never been allowed anywhere near the West.’

            The inescapable weakness of East Asian culture is its rigidity. This is particularly true for the countries of NE Asia, and especially Japan and Korea, which continue to suffer from the trauma of having to join ‘the world parade’. Having lived many years in Japan I can state that while I admire the people and their [mostly borrowed] culture, they have to be the most deeply xenophobic ones on the planet. Except maybe for the Koreans, their detested blood-brothers.

            China does attempt to pursue ‘modernizations’ but if you have dealt with East Asians in a creative environment necessitating improvisation, ‘crazy decision-making’ and truly radical thinking, you will likely have concluded that the overburden of culture, unbroken for several thousand years, is just too oppressive.

            Consider fresh software development (NOT adaptation of existing programs): where’s it coming from? Surely not from that part of the world. The West and India, two areas where culture is dynamic, flexible, ready to improv and to jam to meet changing times.

            (Psst Janos: times do change, even if we do not. Honest.)

          • SpeedyBB March 24, 2018 at 9:58 am #

            Another piece of history I would like to offer as evidence of this conviction (which I neglected to include in the above): naval strategy in combat in the Pacific. American sub commanders did some truly crazy shit, popping up in the middle of a convoy of Japanese freighters, firing tubes fore and aft and then sneaking along just behind one of the unsunk ones so it could not be detected. The Japanese, once a commanding officer had been killed, were generally helpless and confused. They would bravely fight on but often without direction.

            Compare this to the European theater. The Germans were as wily as the Allies in their tactics. You couldn’t fool them.

          • Elrond Hubbard March 24, 2018 at 11:54 am #

            “Equal treatment of unequal people is tyranny.” Translation for the uninitiated: “Denying me a face to smash my boot in is tyranny.” Vintage Janos. Note the following points:

            – The implicit bigotry (people he doesn’t identify with aren’t fully human, a notion he doubles down on later).
            – The abuse of language (neatly inverting the meaning of ‘tyranny’).
            – The solipsism (I can, indeed must, do as I want to others, but to deny my dark hungers is a crime).

            All that in just seven words. Had he found a way to bring in his fascist mystical B.S., it would have been a bravura performance. Take a bow nonetheless, champ!

          • Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 2:16 pm #

            So why don’t we hobble Black runners and jumpers who are so clearly superior to Whites? Why does that past your outrage litmus test? Why hobble Whites with Affirmative Action of all kinds?

            This is what Alba calls my “whataboutery” – or the challenge of a posited universal moral claim. MLK and Gandhi made a career out of it, but of course that has nothing to do with Whites or Me. Only minorities, especially famous minorities, can be “universal” according to the Albatross.

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 2:50 pm #

            Where did I suggest hobbling anybody? I proposed (as a logical proposition – I’m not suggesting it could ever happen) that if all kids attended equally excellent schools and had equal support at home (i.e. not some parents with lots of time and money to take them to extra-curricular learning experiences, while other parents have to work all the hours God sends to put enough food on the table) then you can observe outcomes that have some semblance of fairness.

            I didn’t say anything about colour. That’s your obsession. There are poor white people living in trailers without anywhere for the kids to study. You’ve never, ever heard me say there aren’t. It’s about poverty, not colour.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 11:44 pm #

            You’re generations behind. All that’s been tried and Blacks fail miserably to keep up. Of course they quickly destroy State of the Art Schools so sometimes that gives “researchers” an out. But because of Affirmative Action, there are upper middle class Black neighborhoods in Atlanta and other places. The crime rate is much higher than White neighborhoods of similar wealth. And test scores much lower. The Marxist idea that everything comes down to economics is simply wrong.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 4:23 am #

            Why do you persist in misreading what people say? I’m not remotely Marxist (unlike most people who use the word I do know what it means) and I didn’t say at any point that you’d get equality of outcomes if people start on a level playing field. I said people find their own level ONLY if they start with a level playing field. But lots of factors come into the level playing field, even including the expectations of the teacher.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 2:08 pm #

            No, as I said before, you’ve already decided that everyone is exactly equal. So when inequalities naturally result, you insist on evening them out again, and again, and again.

            Cultural Marxism completely leavened our society. Every wrong is seen as coming from income inequality. Yet there are groups poorer than Blacks that don’t have their criminality, such as American Indians or new immigrant groups.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 3:06 pm #

            “No, as I said before, you’ve already decided that everyone is exactly equal. So when inequalities naturally result, you insist on evening them out again, and again, and again.’

            I will just have to conclude that you are hard of understanding, Janos. It seems there’s nothing can be done about that, short of some affirmative action.

        • BC_EE March 23, 2018 at 1:21 pm #

          What’s the difference between a left-handed baseball bat and a right-handed baseball bat? Nothing. With this incessant lefty-righty, righty-lefty binary combat occurring in the U.S. that’s exactly what it is – the TPTB putting a baseball bat in each hand to bash each other over the head.

          Why is it so important to identify with either side anyway? Maybe I just don’t get it, you know, being from an actual pluralistic democratic society. On the surface anyway. They try to make it a binary choice here too. Better to fight one enemy rather than many.

          • cbeard March 24, 2018 at 6:02 am #

            I’m just about to the point that I believe a homogenous dictatorship would be a superior alternative to a pluralistic democracy.

      • Robert White March 23, 2018 at 11:19 am #

        One only needs technicians, eggs, fertilizer, and a petri dish to ‘continue the species’, man. Right wing & left wing scientists need not apply.

        RW

      • jdhines March 23, 2018 at 1:00 pm #

        TNN

        I am not a Democrat (leftist) because of gender issues or Social Justice Warrior concerns. I also don’t give much of a shit about religion, abortion, gun control (although I don’t want some nut firing at me). My big issue is that the 1% are sucking up all the money and all the power while the 99% are getting seriously screwed.

        The Republicans have a natural affinity for the Rich / Superrich and tend to their bidding for whatever reasons. Ergo, it is only practical to throw-in with those who want to limit their power and influence. Trump is in league with them (also repugnant) so I’m more of an FDR type Democrat (commie, leftist).

        Of course, the Dems are, as I have repeatedly stated, no great shakes, but they are the lesser of two evils from an economic standpoint. And yes, I do understand that they cultivate their own 1 percenters and do their bidding. It’s a hot mess, no doubt.

        JD

        • capt spaulding March 23, 2018 at 1:54 pm #

          I agree with you on all counts jd, my only suggestion would be to keep in mind that the lesser of two evils is still evil. John Bolton is Trump’s new national security adviser, which reminds me that I need new batteries for my geiger counter.

          • jdhines March 23, 2018 at 3:26 pm #

            CS

            Definitely evil too. Also, J. Bolton, when combined with Trump, is an unfortunate pick for humanity. He has never seen a potential war he didn’t want to get involved in (but not on a personal level). One stupid mistake is all it will take (I think that rhymes!) and it will be awfully warm…. and then terribly cold… for a long time.

            JD

          • Epicur March 23, 2018 at 10:18 pm #

            “…which reminds me that I need new batteries for my geiger counter.”

            Don’t forget to get one of those chem/bio masks with a hood. In a few years an unhappy kid like the recent Austin, TX bomber will be able to whip up a lethal virus as easily as a bomb (if not more easily). There are going to be a lot of unhappy people around before too long.

        • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter March 23, 2018 at 2:14 pm #

          Well dude, when the Democrats keep on paying Black women to have illegitimate kids, now a 77.3% rate, that is exactly how you make somebody poor. Or, keep them poor.

          If that fact has escaped you, then you have not been looking very hard. Recent surveys have put the net worth (assets less liabilities) of single black women at between $5 and $8.

          If it were not for unmarried barefoot, pregnant women, the Democratic Party would have been out of business a long time ago.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

          • Cavepainter March 23, 2018 at 2:46 pm #

            Considering that human behavioral sciences point to the consequences associated with gaps in developmental input during critical stages of childhood, maybe its fair to conclude that the murderous gang behavior so common now among
            young inner-city Blacks can be summed up as feral, explaining the general state of dysfunction Black culture has been slumping into now for a couple of generations. It is general now in the sense of being more of a cultural “norm”, whereas gun violence among the general population otherwise remains predominantly that of a “troubled individual”.

            Contrast that to how “White flight” has actually shown a multi-colored demographic, comprising all who have capacity for integration into the more general culture outside of the inner-city terror campaign.

          • jdhines March 23, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

            SF

            That’s right and if the Dems were completely out of power the top 20% would have 99% of the wealth instead of the 84% they currently enjoy. A least you get a little more equitable split with the Dems. Why do the Repubs have to molly-coddle the rich so much? I think the rich can, and always, have taken good care of themselves.

            Do you really think the top 1%, 5% or even 10% give a shit about you? Why carry water for the selfish SOBs?

            JD

          • malthuss March 23, 2018 at 3:16 pm #

            Hello, SFGR.

      • JustSaying March 23, 2018 at 1:48 pm #

        According to Douglas Valentine (History of the CIA) there is only the Right and the Ultra-Right. I laugh when people say Obama was a progressive.

        • jdhines March 23, 2018 at 2:50 pm #

          JS

          That is absolutely correct.

          JD

      • Lonely Traveler March 23, 2018 at 1:49 pm #

        It’s funny when you think that the left used to say the exact same things about the right. The right is completely fucking insane. Yep, heard that. The ultra far right is working overtime to strip us of our civil liberties. Yep, heard that. The right has gone bananas. Yep, heard that.

        There’s not a good crap’s worth of difference between the left and the right in the US. The US is a nation of conservative people controlled firmly by a corporate oligarchy. Left and right are mere illusions. In fact, the oligarchy has a good chuckle anytime anyone says “left” or “right”. These terms are meaningless when you’re under a jackboot of oppression. This country is fucked and there’s no turning it around. Left and right. What a fucking joke.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 2:14 pm #

          Yup, Professional Wrestling. Good guys/Bad Guys in the ring but all friends in the locker room.

        • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter March 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm #

          Yeah, there is a difference. One party always wants MORE government, and MORE of the taxpayers’ money. The Republicans want LESS government and LESS of your money.

          That’s a pretty big difference. Let’s see, which side of that divide were the Communists and the Nazis on??? More government or less government???

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

          • GreenAlba March 23, 2018 at 5:19 pm #

            “Yeah, there is a difference. One party always wants MORE government, and MORE of the taxpayers’ money. The Republicans want LESS government and LESS of your money.
            That’s a pretty big difference.”

            If they’ve arranged things so that ordinary people’s wages are held down for decades and more money is funnelled upwards to the one percent, they’ve already got your money. They don’t need to tax you.

            There’s more than one way to skin a cat.

            When Trump gets his clothing lines made in (yes, I really am going to remind you again) Honduras, Vietnam, Indonesia, China, Mexico and Bangladesh, he’s already shafting American workers to pay for that gold elevator.

            And when he gives a big tax break to the rich on top of that, the Republicans can laugh their heads off because they know it’s just the icing on the cake.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 9:20 pm #

            The differences, such as they are, are gone by the “neo” state. Neo-Conservatives are fine with big Government. And Neo-Liberals are fine with censorship and spreading Americanism abroad by means of War.

        • jdhines March 23, 2018 at 2:51 pm #

          LT

          I fear you are correct.

          JD

      • jdhines March 25, 2018 at 8:55 pm #

        TNN

        “… the right wingers are no longer pushing their Jesus bullshit on us like they did 15 years ago.” Well, there is that to be thankful for.

        JD

    • Walter B March 23, 2018 at 10:55 am #

      As long as people continue to be deceived into believing the left/right paradigm we shall continue to abused by those who profit from our inability to see the truth. They beat us down and we in turn beat one another. There is some serious doom for you to consider and unless we can get past this we shall remain witless slaves. Perhaps that is our destiny.

    • shastatodd March 23, 2018 at 11:16 am #

      “JHK goes further and further down the hard right-wing rabbit hole.”

      yes, and i have less and less interest in reading this page

      hey jim, can we “agree to disagree” and maybe you could consider posting commentaries about a wider variety of topics (please)?

      possible suggestions might be:

      the limits to growth
      oil depletion
      overpopulation
      climate destabilization
      economic insolvency
      trade wars

      thanks!

      • James Howard Kunstler March 23, 2018 at 2:17 pm #

        Shastatodd– I write about what I think is the compelling issue of the day. This is not a repertory theater of *interesting topics.* — JHK

      • malthuss March 23, 2018 at 3:15 pm #

        overpopulation–White nations destroyed by non White immigration.

        Or, are you a globalist?

        • Tate March 23, 2018 at 4:11 pm #

          The neoliberals said that the mud people would be pulled up by prosperity — rising tide lifts all boats theory — and start having fewer mud rats. This would solve the overpopulation problem as the population switch tripped off in the shithole countries.

          Maybe. If we had limitless time and resources, but that ain’t gonna happen before we’re overrun with the brown hordes and we become what they’re trying to escape.

          Oh well, another pie-in-the-sky utopian dream theory bites the dust. Meanwhile, the globalists will hunker within their walled fortresses and cast disapproving glances down and out on the little people and their brown neighbors while issuing bullhorn directives on how they can all share.

    • ricksinger March 23, 2018 at 4:19 pm #

      JD, you’re not the only long-time reader who sees the great unspooling of Jame’s intellect. He hasn’t lost a step in writing craft but his reasoning is lost.

      • Sean Coleman March 23, 2018 at 6:51 pm #

        bob ‘n’ rick

        Where is the fault in his reasoning?

        • Walter B March 23, 2018 at 9:35 pm #

          I do not know how long you have been around Sean, but in my 64 years , judging from what I have observed, (and I study mankind in very much depth and detail), the closer a person who speaks up gets to telling the truth, the more he is assaulted by a host of those that can either not handle the truth or are somehow engaged in keeping it from getting out.

          • Sean Coleman March 24, 2018 at 1:01 pm #

            I am four or five years younger than you, Walter. You are quite right that speaking the truth can provoke a sharp reaction. I am convinced that what we could call the pc viewpoint is a powerful fantasy. Fantasies by their very nature are not real. In other words they are lies. The progressive view is a huge ‘meta-fantasy’ which contains numerous lesser delusions, all of them wrong, or so it seems. Obviously anyone living the fantasy will react strongly to any challenge, perhaps in the same way a heavy drinker reacts when he is given advice.

            I have touched on many of these fantasies over the last year or two here, in some cases as they come to my attention. The latest little myth I saw exploded was two days ago, on Peter Hitchen’s weblog: the Suffragettes were well-funded dangerous terrorists who probably set back the cause of votes for women rather than vice-versa. hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2018/03/were-the-suffragettes-terrorists-a-review-of-the-suffragette…

        • VCS March 23, 2018 at 11:56 pm #

          “Where is the fault in his (JHK’s) reasoning?”

          I think he’s lost his previous objectivity. Jim used to be mostly above the left-right polarization being discussed throughout this thread. He saw thru the bullshit, more or less equally, on both sides. A fair-minded, even-handed curmudgeon, he got closer to the truth more often than most.

          But in the past couple of years that old left-right dichotomy has splintered. We now have left, traditional right, and Trumpism. In my opinion, NONE of these are worth a damn. The two-headed monster now has three heads. Trump, Hillary and Paul Ryan are all deplorable.

          But Jim seems to implicitly side with the Trumpists. Almost a mild apologist for them. His criticisms and ridicule of Trump’s opponents are MUCH harsher. Sure, he says “I don’t admire” Trump, but he never suggests dragging him over six miles of broken glass. He calls him a Golem — a repulsive character — but by now GGG has become a sort of affectionate pet name here.

          Jim sure seems to have decided that the monster’s newest head is his favorite. Hack away at the first two but leave this one alone. He seems to have lost a lot of his objectivity and fair-mindedness.

          But he does have a long, good track record (predictions aside) and his heart’s in the right place. It’s got to be tough writing these things twice a week. I couldn’t do it. I’ll bet (I hope) he regains his balance fairly soon.

          • Petro March 24, 2018 at 9:40 am #

            Boy, VCS, you’ve really hit the nail on the head! I came to a similar overall conclusion many months ago, but you’ve made a well-articulated critique that has eluded me.

            I gave up recommending his blog to friends a long time ago, (I still recommend his books); I’d grown embarrassed to do so. It’s “Russia, Russia, Russia” (the Fox News version), “What about Hillary?!” (also the Fox News version) and “economic collapse is right around the corner,” over and over. And then there are the commenters—! The hateful (Janos, JohnAz, etc., and the obsequious (Walter) to whom he almost seems to pander to now.

            JHK’s done a lot of interesting work and writing, but his current stuff just leaves me shaking my head.

          • sophia March 24, 2018 at 10:37 am #

            As I see it, the above complaints are because while the right used to be more obtuse and the left used to be more savvy, things have switched. Not to side with either the left or the right, but the “liberal reality bubble” is a very real current phenomenon and since the above complainers are obviously within it, they see things the way they see them. But to me they appear simply wrong. I see James siding with reality as he sees it; I don’t see him buying into the left-right meme or overly defending Trump at all. But those who retain lingering positivity toward the reincarnation of Genghis Khan are not able to see things objectively at all.
            (Yes, one can switch genders in a rebirth.)

          • JustSaying March 24, 2018 at 12:57 pm #

            My gawd – RussiaRussiaRussia is all we hear all the time in the good old USA. The Russians hacked the election and now the Russians are hacking the electrical grid. This insanity has completely overtaken this country. Just turn on CNN. Just read the WaPo or the NYT or the Boston Globe (I had to stop service because I just could not take it any longer).

            I am an old Kennedy Democrat but the “New” Democrats are just as bad if not worse than the Republicans. Their unhinged hysteria is going to start the next world war.

            Trump is a buffoon but the soft coup against him is much worse for this country. Trump will eventually leave office, but the precedent set by the soft coup will not be expunged.

            I am in total agreement with JHK and I read his blog because he is a gifted writer and has a great sense of humor which is sadly lacking today. And nobody is forcing you to read it! Go start your own blog.

          • Sean Coleman March 24, 2018 at 1:06 pm #

            Just Saying

            The Russian hacking of the grid was complete nonsense, wasn’t it, typical of contemporary reporting? Can you or anyone else confirm? There just isn’t enough time to follow it all.

      • sophia March 24, 2018 at 10:29 am #

        Well I’m white, and we were homeless when I was 12. I was in the gifted class, but we had no money for college. I wanted to play piano, but never told my mother because I was sure we couldn’t afford one. There are people who were poorer than us, of course, but I do get a little mad about being called privileged.

      • sophia March 24, 2018 at 10:30 am #

        James’ intellect, you intellectual you.

  3. Lonely Traveler March 23, 2018 at 9:40 am #

    The US is a rollercoaster headed into a giant vat of molasses. If you somehow manage to survive, it will be interesting as hell. All we need to make the picture complete is for John Bolton to start beating the war drums. He’s good at it, especially when he doesn’t have to charge into battle himself. I wonder who the next victim will be? I don’t think it will be North Korea. It will be some brown people in a foreign land without a military. Maybe Yemen with Saudi Arabia’s blessing? Maybe somewhere on the African continent. We don’t have to win – heavens no. We just have to spend a f__kload of the public’s money to (further) enrich the war machine. It will be stellar folks to watch the decline, preferably from far away. World Made By Hand, here we come.

    • venuspluto67 March 23, 2018 at 9:51 am #

      If John Bolton, who bears more than a passing resemblance to cartoon character “Yosemite Sam” in both appearance and behavior, is calling the shots on that, Iran would be the most likely candidate. And that wouldn’t do our teetering finance-based economy any favors, as Iran would be in much more of a position than was Iraq in 2003 to fight back hard.

      • BuckP March 23, 2018 at 11:59 am #

        China, being the world’s largest oil importer and economy, most likely will stand in the way of an American attack on Iran. Iran is willing to trade their oil using the newly introduced petroyuan backed by gold, which is in opposition to the American petrodollar. Russia would also probably come to Iran’s aid. Being unable to win a ground war would the US resort to nukes? Armageddon anyone? Things are heating up!

    • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 9:55 am #

      Whoever it is, they’ll be picked for the appearance of an easy victory. Those are the only wars the US fights anymore. Of course the reality on the ground is always far different.

    • dannyboy March 23, 2018 at 10:22 am #

      “If you somehow manage to survive, it will be interesting as hell. It will be stellar folks to watch the decline, preferably from far away.”

      Taking your advice Lonely Traveler (Except, Don’t travel alone!).

  4. DrTomSchmidt March 23, 2018 at 9:40 am #

    Disagree,JD. JHK looks a lot like a JFK Democrat, but those guys appear seriously right wing now. Maybe they are?

    Trump’s actual politics, like ending the Republican battle against gay rights and marriage, are what used to be respectable liberal positions. He is not Ted Cruz. He carries water for the Ted Cruz people in appointing judges, I think.

    • JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

      Trump says what he believes, America First, period! If the trade deficit is negative, he will try to fix it. If a negative job balance exists he will try to fix it. If the economy is blighted, he will try to fix it. He will not just sit in place and watch the US deteriorate without fighting back. That is what separates him from his predecessor. Intervention rather tha avoidance. And that is why the establishment do-nothing’s in D.C. Want him out.

  5. Walter B March 23, 2018 at 9:54 am #

    Those of us who put faith in Scripture and the End Times that are described within are often ridiculed for claiming that the “world will end”, but this is not at all what is foretold. The End Times are the time when logic and reason are overturned by Chaos. When right becomes wrong, when good becomes bad, and how about maybe even when men become women and women become men or something all together different? Wars and rumors of wars are everywhere and extreme weather and catastrophic seismic events rock the planet. The End Times are highlighted by the ramp up to the battle of Armageddon where many of the armies of the World gather around the Middle East and Damascus becomes a heap of ruin. No, the World does not end, but the End Times represent a crescendo of everything gone bad and annihilation is averted in the nick of time by either the Second Coming or the Anti-Christ, which one depends upon who you listen to.

    Here in America, Donald Trump has been assaulted by the forces of sellout ineptitude and degradation. While he is no great deal himself, he has managed to divert the efforts to impale him and drive him from office by getting in bed with the War For Profit Deep State spooks who rule over our government. There is another twist for you. When exactly did spies and murderers go from being people that were despised and hated that were hanged when they were caught, to being America’s actual rulers? As long as Trump and the spooks continue to push WWIII they will not be doing good at all, but bad, very, very bad things. The opposition is only pissed off because it’s costing them gazillions in illegal income.

    • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 9:58 am #

      Nice analogy. Two warring crime families engaged in turf wars to conduct their illegal activities.

      • dannyboy March 23, 2018 at 10:25 am #

        There’s skim to be gotten from both!

      • pequiste March 23, 2018 at 10:35 am #

        Bad cops, people getting killed, lots of illicit activities and insane amounts of filthy lucre: sounds both like what’s going on in Baghdad-on-the-Potomac ( and the rest of the power nodes in the U.S.A.) as well as the story in a great and famous movie about once upon a time in America. As always, it’s nothing personal just business:

        youtube.com/watch?v=0qvpcfYFHcw

      • JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 12:28 pm #

        Yeah, Deep State 1 and Deep State 2. Again, the real battle in the US is between the Deep State and the people. The Deep State wants control over the people’s future. Anyone who believes that self determination is paramount better heed the warning about the Deep State. If you believe that the Federal government is omniscient and all powerful, think about 21 trillion in debt, a 1.3 trillion dollar budget that hopefully Trump will veto that is entirely focused toward the Left. If a majority of the voters believe the later through the Deep State propaganda machine, it is too late and the Long Emergency will shift into high gear. Deep State one = Democratic establishment, Deep State 2 = GOP establishment. Ironic that the ult Left want the Constitution changed or dumped and the Ult Right want it observed to the letter. So again, the Deep State against the people, whether the people are Left or Right. A prediction, Trump up to now, favors the Rightists, but he is primarily an anti-Deep State President. The tariffs show that is primary objective is to favor business in the US giving jobs to Americans first. The globalists in the stock market hate him for favoring the US over the rest of the world. He will not be led by the nose by either side of the establishment Deep State. That is why I voted for him.

    • Tate March 23, 2018 at 1:51 pm #

      “The End Times are the time when logic and reason are overturned by Chaos. When right becomes wrong, when good becomes bad, and how about maybe even when men become women and women become men or something all together different?”

      And where is the locus of these activities? And where is the locus of opposition to these activities?

      Just sayin’.

      • Walter B March 23, 2018 at 9:43 pm #

        Why it is happening all around the planet have you not heard? And it is happening in both planes of existences as well. Though it centers around what is sometimes called the “Holy Land”, the Vatican with it’s financial and military arms (Britain and the USA) are all well and almost totally engaged. Keep your eyes on Damascus, the city is KEY to what is happening. Who is in opposition? Good question for in this plane of existence there are few my friend, very few.

        • Tate March 24, 2018 at 1:38 am #

          I was thinking of Russia, Walter, but I will be accused of being a Putin fan-boy to state it. Yes, I know Putin is corrupt. But it seems to me that Russia is the only Christian center of resistance to the false ideas that have taken hold in the West. Putin may be merely playing his support of the Orthodox church for political gain. That could be the case and yet not invalidate the basic thesis concerning Russia.

          Who can say if the End Times are near? I have no idea but I’m sure that this is not for humanity to attempt to influence but is in the Hands of God alone. It is sheer presumption to believe otherwise. (Christian Zionists are very deluded and confused.)

          Does Satan ever rest on his laurels? I don’t think so. I don’t believe there are any signs that can predict when that other plane of existence immanentizes this one. There will be a lot of false warnings before the Big One hits.

          • Tate March 24, 2018 at 1:46 am #

            And then when it does hit, it could come out of virtually nowhere with few paying attention.

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 9:27 am #

            I realised we weren’t too close politically, Tate, but I didn’t have you down as a rapture man.

            “Does Satan ever rest on his laurels? I don’t think so.”

            I don’t think he does either. But not for the same reasons as you. Human evil (which mostly boils down to greed for something or other, whether power or all the things power gets you) is enough for me without needing to explain it with supernatural myth, even though I was very thoroughly indoctrinated as a child.

            And it’s ‘sheer presumption’ to insist there’s a god at all. Why did he instruct his creation to ‘go forth and multiply’ knowing, as he must have done, the physical limits of the world he created for them? And if you’re of the Catholic persuasion, you’re not supposed to take serious measures to restrict the going forth and multiplying because that’s a sin.

          • Walter B March 24, 2018 at 11:25 am #

            I agree with your idea of Russia as resistance and I am no Putin fan either. One of the shortcomings of the Russians, if you want to call it that, is that while within their own borders they are a fierce and almost unstoppable enemy, once they cross the Volga they are incapable of defeating any other country and incorporating it into their sphere of influence for the long term. This should give them a better reputation than those who invade and conquer, but their abuse of their own people in the past tells me that they are no prize either. Britain and the US of course are masters of colonization and are fast becoming almost as cruel as the Roman masters that spawned them. And of course Rome is the Vatican isn’t it?

            Satan can never rest for he is taunted by not only his initial failure, but by the hopelessness of goal.

          • Walter B March 24, 2018 at 4:02 pm #

            And as far and the “End Times” is concerned Tate my friend, we might even take religion, spirituality and Belief Systems out of the equation for a moment to ponder what End Times may even encompass. Men have been concerned about the subject for almost two thousand years now, however never before has man possessed the technologies, the hardware and the implements of war and destruction to the extent that exist today. Just the very fact of how much death dealing implements of destruction on large scale that everybody seems to have and wave about certainly looks sufficient to bring about a worldwide calamity, doesn’t it? And with hostilities ramping up everywhere all over at the same time now, well it sure looks like sooner, rather than later. The fact that it is written that no man shall know the time or the date does not mean it ain’t gonna happen, it just means that when it does, nobody is going to be ready for it, that’s all.

          • Tate March 24, 2018 at 4:30 pm #

            “Just the very fact of how much death dealing implements of destruction on large scale that everybody seems to have and wave about certainly looks sufficient to bring about a worldwide calamity, doesn’t it?”

            I agree, Walter. That’s why it’s concerning to me that there are many people today in this country who wish to bring it on under the misguided assumption that this will hasten the Apocalyse. Maybe you know this, it’s known as “immanentizing the eschaton.” It’s the height of folly to pursue such a vision, although I suspect many devout millennialists do it on a subconscious level.

        • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 9:18 am #

          “the Vatican with it’s financial and military arms (Britain and the USA) ”

          Walter, I sympathise with a lot of what you say (not all, as you know), but post-Christian Protestant Britain is a financial and military arm of …the Vatican? Elsewhere on these threads I’m told it’s in the service of international Jewry. People need to be wary of conspiracy theories above all else.

          • jdhines March 24, 2018 at 3:26 pm #

            GA

            “And it’s ‘sheer presumption’ to insist there’s a god at all. Why did he instruct his creation to ‘go forth and multiply’ knowing, as he must have done, the physical limits of the world he created for them?”

            Indeed, why insist on this fantasy? If there is a g_d, and while I can’t see that being the case, I am willing to consider the possibility, his supposed creation (homo sapien) is a very flawed creature. Again, if so, I hope we only share his image and not his nature.

            JD

          • Walter B March 24, 2018 at 3:33 pm #

            I was calling Britain the financial arm as the Rothschild/Bank of England does the Vatican’s banking , and quite the banking job THAT is. The USA (policeman of the world) and once a Protestant bastion has been doing the military end of the triumvirate, evidence of which now takes the form of the assault on Syria and the rest of the Middle East (Holy Land). Then there is the strategic move of our embassy to Jerusalem and all of the other events unfolding in Jerusalem. The King of the North and the King of the South and much more evidence of this collaboration may be found elsewhere.

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 3:52 pm #

            Walter, I’m sorry but you’re indulging in conspiracy theories again.

            “As a regulator and central bank, the Bank of England has not offered consumer banking services for many years, but it still does manage some public-facing services such as exchanging superseded bank notes.”

            Easily googled. So you’ll need to search for the Rothschild Bank somewhere else.

          • Walter B March 24, 2018 at 9:07 pm #

            Sorry GA but conspiracy is what the wealthy do after a round of golf at dinner, or at Monte Carlo when the race is over. I have been at the table when small businessmen made some of these back door deals. It is the way business is done, no matter what you may choose to believe.

            I was the engineering department manager for a small material handling company in North New Jersey in 1986. I was responsible for a department that did $23M a year and I was really good at it. One of my bosses used to take me to see customers to close deals (how that was done is a tale in itself). One day we were tooling up the NJ Turnpike near exit 16E in Bill’s 450 SEL and he pointed to an area of the Meadowlands swamp and told me that he just bought that particular piece of swamp. “Ok Bill, I’m game, what the deal”, I asked. He told me that the best investment a businessman can make is to buy a politician or two. They were cheap back then and very useful. Bill told me that the swamp he owned would someday house a rapid transit rail station that was going to be constructed there with the help of his political flunkies. Well time went by and I left and did other things, but last year I was headed up the Turnpike to visit a friend of mine on the Upper East Side of Manhattan with my family and as we passed the section of swamp that Bill pointed out to me, lo and behold, there was a spanking new, not quite being used yet train station. Looks like it was not cheap. I wondered if Bill owned the land still when the deal went down and how many gazillions he made off of it if he did. That’s how it works madam, sorry. As far as the BOE, we may never know the truth, but there is so much out there that the truth must be stranger than fiction indeed…..

            darkpolitricks.com/2013/01/who-owns-the-bank-of-england/

            rothschild.com/
            .

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 9:25 pm #

            Walter, I know perfectly well how deals are done. We’re talking about the Bank of England, which does not belong to the Rothschilds. It’s been nationalised since the last war and it doesn’t function as a commercial bank.

            From your own linked article:

            “The bank holds very little government stock and the Bank’s profits primarily come from the issuing of coins and notes for use by high street banks. Therefore it seems the Bank of England has reduced in size and importance over the years and is now mainly a regulatory body that oversees the existing banking system…”

            You’re still going to have to find your Vatican conspiracy somewhere else.

          • Walter B March 24, 2018 at 10:23 pm #

            Looks like William Wallace was the exception rather than the norm.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 4:27 am #

            Looks like you just made something up and don’t like the fact that it was found out to be made up, Walter.

          • Walter B March 25, 2018 at 5:14 pm #

            Alright, alright, how to go about making my point to the Coincidence Theorists out there. Let’s see, Rome, which existed centuries before the Vatican took over after the Holy Roman Empire faded, is arguably the oldest, most successful wealth hoarding entity on the planet. How much wealth do you think they may have? A lot maybe? I think so.

            ibtimes.co.uk/how-rich-vatican-so-wealthy-it-can-stumble-across-millions-euros-just-tucked-away-1478…

            So, what do they do with at least some of it, the liquid stuff, the cash, checks, money orders? You think they may put a lot of it into banks maybe? If they do, the banks and financial investment houses that they deal with must be pretty flush with assets making them very powerful you think?

            forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/06/26/the-vatican-bank-the-most-secret-bank-in-the-world/#7af2036c120…

            What do men and institutions that are very wealthy and very powerful and have lots of cash do for fun and for profit? Why they invest in institutions like Central Banks, (the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England are both central banks are they not?). Do such institutions and such investors hold private meetings with their CEO’s, Boards of Directors and major shareholders and plan for strategies of investment and acquisitions? If you believe the reports that they issue they certainly do? Is any of this understandable to you dear? If not, then I shall STFU.

  6. 100th Avatar March 23, 2018 at 9:57 am #

    Bolton, the biggest war-mongering AIPAC kool-aid chugging draft dodging Neocon is now in the cabinet.

    You can’t make this sh*t up.

    No wonder why Dershowitz carries Trump water.

    • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 10:02 am #

      Yep. Trump is either being held captive now, or he was a trojan horse for that crowd all along. Doesn’t really matter which, as the outcome’s the same either way. Bolton will be high on the indictment list if trials for treason and/or war crimes are ever held.

      • JustSaying March 23, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

        Oh yes Mr. Bolton – Chicken hawk extraordinaire. Neocon reboot! Last time it was Iraq, this time it will be Iran or Syria or Ukraine or Russia or China. So many possibilities.

    • akmofo March 23, 2018 at 11:30 am #

      Yeah, and then there’s this:

      Why sell US oil for $65 a barrel when you can sell it for $265 a barrel, with Iranian oil revenues at ZERO. I wonder what currency the Chinese will use to buy their oil from Iran. More North Korean Chinese military transfers? Given the Chinese criminal history on trade, they certainly shouldn’t get any oil from US exports. Well maybe for $565 a barrel, paid in the gold that they’ve been hording.

      Time to change your Avatar. The current one is way too stupid.

      • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 12:10 pm #

        I think BuckP answered your question above. Who’s stupid now?

        • akmofo March 23, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

          The Chinese do not have the technological means nor the strategic means to apply here. If BuckP knows different I’ll be willing to learn what they are. Neither will the Chinese risk completely antagonizing the US and suffer the resulting technological and financial embargo on their criminal mercantile machinations, along with a complete loss of face. No, the Chinese will just have to utilize their excess accumulated US currency reserves and pay whatever and however the US demands they pay.

          • akmofo March 23, 2018 at 2:10 pm #

            President Donald Trump signed an executive memorandum this Thursday that would impose retaliatory tariffs of up to $60 billion on Chinese imports.

            These tariffs could easily grow, and grow exponentially, to where China’s highly leveraged export economy will lose its reason for being and will cease to exist.

            The commie Clinton Chinese mafia in the US government is being rooted out. We know who they are. The legal work is now being prepared to lock them all up, from Obama to Killary to Brennan, and down the line.

          • BuckP March 23, 2018 at 5:56 pm #

            The pendulum is swinging back to the east! The fiat dollar’s hegemony, enforced by the world’slargest military,by expenditure, is about over. No country wants U.S. dollars anymore. China is now the largest economy. Why would they kowtow to a fiat dollar reserve currency of a failing, bankrupt state. It would be like the U.S. having to kowtow to the English pound after WWII. Check out the new Silk Road! The technological gap is closing fast. Without the deep pools of dark, counterfeit money in the hands of the Exchange Stabilization Fund, which they use to monetize our debt and suppress the price of gold and silver, the con would already be up.
            “Gold is money and nothing else.”
            J. P. Morgan

            We will see if we Americans have the stomach for a big, costly, war to save the dolar. I doubt it! Also, we better hope the Saudis continue to use the petrodollar!

          • akmofo March 23, 2018 at 6:37 pm #

            China is no different than the old USSR. It’s easy to steal others intellectual property, not so easy to create it on your own. The second the US cuts off China from US technology, China’s success story is over.

            And let’s not kid ourselves, China’s success story is almost wholly US made. And it can be also wholly unmade by the US. Seems to me with China’s criminal deployment of the Clinton mafia to unseat President Trump, China is getting a little too big for its shoes. Time to cut off its pig feet.

  7. 100th Avatar March 23, 2018 at 10:35 am #

    If you enlist in the military now, you get no support, no ribbons, no thank yous.
    You deserve your fate.
    A tool of the infinite war machine.
    The most patriotic thing to do at this point is to flee the armed services.

    • Ol' Scratch March 23, 2018 at 12:01 pm #

      Actually they get A LOT of all those, but they get no real satisfaction from accomplishing anything of worth, other than sowing death and destruction throughout the world on the behalf of people who wouldn’t give them the time of day. But the Armed Services have succeeded in becoming linked to employment opportunity (one of the very few left), so they’ll always fill their quotas, albeit mostly with people who have nothing else left to grasp onto. Not to mention more than their share of budding sociopaths as well.

      • JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 2:30 pm #

        Lots of military enlisted are there for economic reasons, and a few because they like to kill things. But a common denominator of most veterans is a love for America, why? Because a lot of them have seen the shitholes of the world and they appreciate what America is and stands for.

        • 100th Avatar March 23, 2018 at 2:51 pm #

          John, have you ever stepped back from the jingoism and self-congratulatory back-patting to think about why so many places are sh*t holes and what America truly stands for and with?
          Better not, lest one prefers to sleep troubled.

          • JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 8:25 pm #

            Try to picture what the world would be without the US.

          • GreenAlba March 23, 2018 at 9:34 pm #

            “Try to picture what the world would be without the US.”

            Cleaner. You produce half of the world’s solid waste while being about 6% of the population. That’s quite a feat.

            scientificamerican.com/article/american-consumption-habits/

            “A child born in the United States will create thirteen times as much ecological damage over the course of his or her lifetime than a child born in Brazil,”

          • GreenAlba March 23, 2018 at 9:36 pm #

            Turning the world into a shithole faster than anyone else, you might say.

          • Elrond Hubbard March 23, 2018 at 10:27 pm #

            Less incarcerated, too.

            aclu.org/issues/mass-incarceration

            “America, land of the free, has earned the disturbing distinction of being the world’s leading jailer. Representing just 5 percent of the world’s population, we now hold 25 percent of its inmates.”

            As of 2015, the USA incarcerates 666 people per 100,000 population. Only Seychelles imprisons more of its people, and they’re a tiny country of just 92,000 people versus 320+ million in the USA.

            To put it another way, America jails more of its people than such bastions of uninhibited liberty as Cuba, the Russian Federation, and Turkmenistan.

          • Walter B March 23, 2018 at 11:32 pm #

            But Elrond, we incarcerate for profit don’t you know? Our prisons are pretty much all now operated by private entities and they pump cash into the economy instead of being a societal drain! Oh boy! It pays to lock people up (but not the ones at the top apparently that destroy the system from within).

            pbs.org/now/shows/419/video.html

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 6:27 am #

            Indeed, Walter. The dysfunction of how things are measured takes your breath away. Locking people up as a contribution to GDP and a ‘growing economy’…

            Same with the damage from climate change. Towns devastated by 10-year floods that used to be 100-year floods, or wildfires that happen twice as often – and twice as devastatingly – as before? Be not troubled – all that new construction work will show up as a healthy, growing economy. And healthier still when it happens in another 10 years instead of 100. Even the counselling services to the bereaved and traumatised will show up in those healthy GDP figures.

            Glasgow had a reputation decades long ago as the stabbing capital of Europe (homegrown white boys, just to be clear). It turned itself around. Now when you hear about knife crime it’s generally English cities. Glasgow has taken a much-vaunted public health approach to the problem.

            theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/06/knife-crime-metropolitan-police-cressida-dick

            “Treating knife crime as a health issue is credited with prompting a dramatic drop in stabbings in Scotland, with the decline most pronounced in Glasgow, a city that once had one of the highest murder rates in western Europe.”

            Some uses of our tax pounds/dollars are better than others. At its best, tax is the price of civilisation. Obviously tax isn’t always at its best – often it’s out sucking up to the MIC instead in the service of shithole-creation.

  8. Newton Finn March 23, 2018 at 11:03 am #

    Again, JHK has given us incisive political commentary coupled with a fundamental misunderstanding of macro-economics. This is a common problem among even the best of our current pundits, a failure to be receptive to new ways of thinking which could free us from the neoliberal austerity that immiserates the 99%. I’ve posted this information here before, and JHK may well decide that it’s time to pull the plug, but there are two videos that are excellent vehicles for erasing outdated economic “software” and downloading a much more accurate framework for thinking about all things economic. While this subject matter may sound dry and boring, it is anything but that, when the light bulb suddenly goes on between one’s ears and the jaw drops. The first video is professionally done and easy to watch. The second is less professional but chock full of essential supplementary information. Here are the links for those willing to explore cutting-edge ideas with the clarity and power to sever the chains of wage-slavery and reverse the social devolution relentlessly (and enjoyably) skewered by JHK:

    youtube.com/watch?v=Q1SMjeuyF-Y

    youtube.com/watch?v=tPupNqVNdS0

    • Walter B March 23, 2018 at 11:47 am #

      Interesting talk by the lady economist and I will watch more of it later. She states that savings and sound financial spending is good for individuals but not for other entities which is interesting. One of the things that I would like to see is if she addresses the possibility that because so many of the World’s top income earners make so much money from selling debt to us and our governments that if debt ever became something that nobody did anymore, employing these users might be a bad thing. Do the Moneylenders really serve so great a purpose to us all or are they are burden on our backs? Well if used properly and not so frequently, of course they can help. But once debt becomes the way to go, why they take over for good don’t they? Debt, just like everything else in this plane of existence, must be applied with restraint, not indiscriminately. Too much of anything is always a bad idea.

    • Walter B March 23, 2018 at 12:13 pm #

      It appears that the thrust of your economist’s theory is that in order to keep an economy healthy it needs to keep growing, it needs to keep spending. Well this certainly falls in line with what DC and those that keep pumping debt into the economy are committed to, but there are other factors that have to be considered as they have even bigger consequences for the success and failure of such practice.

      The first is income. If incomes do not keep pace or outpace spending then eventually everything falls apart once the end of the debt ropes are reached.

      Another is that economies should really be based on NEED and the abilities of those who supply items to meet the needs of those that consume the needs. There has been far too many “created needs” such as entertainment, dining out and luxury homes, houses and lifestyles. These non-needs are the first to suffer when the incomes no longer can keep pace with the costs of consuming. People also tend to “need” far more things than they can afford to pay for and once they reign in their spending, well things fall apart don’t they.

      Population growth is also a huge factor for if the economy does not keep pace or outpace the growth of the population, the population quickly overgrows the ability of the economy to sustain it. All in all debt has always been around and it always will be and those individuals and entities, including governments that become mired in debt will always, in the end, suffer the consequences, and they are not pretty.

      • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

        economies should really be based on NEED

        I agree but in our world needs, wants and desires are totally confused.

        An American is thirsty. Does the American sake their thirst?

        No, instead of giving their body what it needs the American has to throw 20 grams of sugar into their water before they drink it so they can get diabetes along with something to drink. Anything less in not living life to the fullest and being all you can be don’t you know. Needs become opportunities for self expression and can’t just be what they are.

        I’m convinced the average person in America is now incapable of understanding the difference between a need and a want. This is our first problem to be solved and no solutions for anything else can be found until this ignorance is addressed.

        • JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 12:52 pm #

          Instant gratification is what the American way is now. And it is getting worse generation to generation. People honestly believe they are owed the American dream without working for it. One party has thrived for thirty years encouraging this credo, saying don’t worry, the government will take care of you. We are approaching a cliff quickly wher the falsehoods of this party will destroy all of us.

        • Tate March 23, 2018 at 2:03 pm #

          There are only a few things that people actually need in a physiological sense. If everyone willingly reduced their consumption to the bare level of need our economy would collapse forthwith. But that’s not going to happen. People will always “need” far more than they actually need on a subsistence level.

          Therefore, this is not a “problem” that can or ever will be solved. You’re just spouting empty rhetoric.

          • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 5:46 pm #

            The economy would not collapse because in that case the economy would be doing exactly what it would be supposed to be doing. It would be serving the needs of the people. You painted yourself into a logical corner at your first sentence by defining as an axiom something as bad which is in fact would not be bad under your given circumstances. Your therefore is therefore worthless. You made up a problem that does not exist.

            There is a concrete difference between a need and a want and the confusion of the two can lead to real misery. That is not an empty statement. That is a fact. You defined your problem as a binary issue when in fact wants and needs differ in relative significance between each other. This makes the ability to tell the difference between the two rather important.

            But if you think that if you wish for something hard enough it must be come true by magic please ignore me completely.

          • Tate March 23, 2018 at 6:45 pm #

            The economy has a partial collapse every time people collectively reduce their consumption. In other words, they reluctantly sort their needs into one pile and their wants into another and bag the latter. When that happens, it’s called a recession.

            I never said anything about it being “bad” when that happens. Where did you get that? In fact, it’s a good thing in an economy that allows price discovery. It frees up capital for more efficient uses and allows prices to adjust to an affordable level.

            But we don’t live in that kind of world. We live in a world where central banks artificially pump loans into the economy and when those loans go bad they pump in more loans to prop up the first loans. The end result is tears.

            As far as your Marxist utopia goes where people are restricted to their bare needs, and that solves your so-called “problem”, how’d that work out for you in the 20th century? I seem to remember it got a hundred million or so people killed.

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 9:46 am #

            “As far as your Marxist utopia goes where people are restricted to their bare needs, and that solves your so-called “problem”, how’d that work out for you in the 20th century? I seem to remember it got a hundred million or so people killed.”

            I’m not into utopias and not am I a Marxist – and the USSR was pretty shitholish when it came to industrial pollution. Left-wing crud is no better for your lungs or your water supply than right-wing crud and its mountains of garbage are no prettier (they do tend to be smaller, though, just because of more limited incomes).

            You’re a religious man, I now find, so I’m sure you’d agree it’s up to the people themselves to restrict their own consumption.

            And yes, I know that leads to recessions and there’s a lot of money to be paid off by endless growth. But those brains that got men to the moon need to put their thinking caps on for the most pressing problem we currently have. Which you might call the imperative to ‘cut the crap’.

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 9:48 am #

            *nor am I…*

          • Tate March 24, 2018 at 4:13 pm #

            “… I’m sure you’d agree it’s up to the people themselves to restrict their own consumption.”

            See, GA, this is your how you go astray. This is a utopian idea whether you recognize it or not. Of course, we should individually restrict our consumption for a number of reasons which can differ between individuals. You might reduce your consumption because you think it will be good for the environment; I might reduce my consumption because I don’t want to be overweight, or I want to save money, or my house is cluttered with too much stuff. We might even collectively as a nation or nations reach a point where for all these reasons the people reach a saturation point of consumption and simply can’t consume any more. The problem is, this point (which might have already been reached in the U.S. were it not for the debt we are encouraged to assume) is way more than is acceptable to the world-improvers. They want to reduce that amount of consumption still further to some arbitrary amount that suits them (or at least the little people they shout at with their public megaphone. Hello, Al Gore)

            So, in this context, let’s return to your previous comment to me about “go forth and multiply. ” This is not really about having babies, will you agree? That would be superfluous. The human race with or without God’s admonition, will have babies. And a corollary of having babies is increasing consumption.

            No, the advice to “go forth and multiply” is really about raising successful families. And successful families do limit their consumption by choice for some of the reasons I enumerated above.

            But it is wrong-headed to believe that there should be some enforced reduction in consumption by imposing quotas or shortages on the mass of people by government edict. As you correctly pointed out, the Soviet Union was hugely wasteful of its resources and polluted the environment at the same time its people went without. Wow! what an achievement of the socialist paradise!

            “But those brains that got men to the moon need to put their thinking caps on for the most pressing problem we currently have. Which you might call the imperative to ‘cut the crap’.”

            Why devolve the responsibility to “those men who got men to the moon” and their kind to solve a problem that is entirely different from that kind of problem? They’re not likely to come up with good answers. More likely will they be to come up with Soviet-style answers. I don’t want those types anywhere near the policy levers.

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 9:10 pm #

            “See, GA, this is your how you go astray. This is a utopian idea whether you recognize it or not. ”

            Just because I think people ought to restrict their consumption doesn’t mean I expect them to do it – I retain no such utopian hopes.

            And I’m aware that most (?) Americans would rather have a progressively degraded environment than have someone try to coerce them into better behaviour. So I guess I’ll just have to look on as things get worse for all of us.

            “No, the advice to “go forth and multiply” is really about raising successful families.”

            That’s truly a bit of a stretch, semantically speaking. Not that it matters, as I doubt anyone ever said it. My suggestion was more metaphorical than anything else.

            Your understanding of my allusion to ‘the brains that put men on the moon’ is both too literal and too exclusive.

            I’m not asking for such people to come anywhere near the policy levers. We need ideas. We can look at the public policy implications later.

            And after all that negativity you haven’t offered a single solution to the problem of Americans producing half the world’s solid waste while they’re only 5% of its population. What do you actually suggest? The problem is in your backyard, but it spreads to ours too. A whole load of it possibly covering an area twice the size of France (as suggested a couple of days ago) is floating around the Pacific – that would mean one whole ‘France’ just down to you.

          • Tate March 24, 2018 at 10:22 pm #

            GA, that’s one of those myths among your crowd, that there’s this huge garbage mat twice the size of France floating around in the Pacific, that gets your knickers all in a twist. If you want me to take you seriously, do a little research. I watched a documentary on that subject about a year ago.

            An expedition set out to find this garbage mat and document its extent. What the average viewer expected them to find — a huge impenetrable floating mass of garbage — was in fact nothing more than a slight increase in the incidence of floating garbage over what was found elsewhere in the Pacific. In fact, the ocean in that sector looked totally normal to the casual observer.

            And this statement:

            And I’m aware that most (?) Americans would rather have a progressively degraded environment than have someone try to coerce them into better behaviour. So I guess I’ll just have to look on as things get worse for all of us.
            Now that really takes the prize. ‘Oh poor widdle GA!’ It’s all the big bad Americans fault. Grow up!

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 4:35 am #

            Tate

            independent.co.uk/environment/great-pacific-garbage-patch-plastic-pollution-oceans-environment-fish-…

            “Nearly 80,000 tonnes of plastic are floating in the area of the ocean known as the “Great Pacific garbage patch”.

            Scientists arrived at this figure, which is around 16 times higher than previous estimates, by assessing aerial images alongside data from ships dragging nets through the region.”

            “‘Oh poor widdle GA!’ It’s all the big bad Americans fault.
            Grow up!”

            I did at least give you credit (before this) of being able to respond like an adult and not a stroppy teenager, but we live and learn. It’s 50 percent your fault. You are 5% of the population. Perhaps you need to clean your bedroom.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 10:41 am #

            And the thing that’s the most galling is so-called conservatives who are happy to conserve anything but the environment, and to shout from the rooftops about personal responsibility except when they’re required to exercise some in an area where they don’t want to accept their own responsibility.

            That’s when you get them throwing their toys out of their pram and resorting to ‘Oh poor widdle GA’.

      • malthuss March 23, 2018 at 3:09 pm #

        Growth? Population explosion.

  9. wm5135 March 23, 2018 at 12:04 pm #

    “I’m pretty much unclassifiable as is anyone else who actually thinks and lets evidence and not ideology lead the way to truth.” K-Dog hope you will consider me in your column.

    The observation of information(measurement) collapses the waveform and distills the reality. When the information is filtered such that only the same information is observed, voila, a consistent reality. Only want to see a leftist plot? Look only for leftist plots. Want to see convervatism shining on the hill. Look for that.

    Our very existence is held within the truth. The most consistent of my observations about my fellows is the almost universal desire to look away from the truth. Castenada’s first title sums it up nicely “A Separate Reality”. Start with a deep seated desire to look away from the reality of your own being and you can cook up any reality you desire.

    Cavepainter – your link leads to a splendidly Brooksian babble.

    • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

      OK, I hereby declare you a member of the thinkers.

      Yes, people see what they want to see.

      I’m taking today off work today (excess vacation) so I won’t be there, but yesterday I had lunch at a burger joint a half mile from work. In the parking lot of this place is a small espresso stand which features bikini baristas. I trust the owners of this little chain of sexploitation stands have added big heaters to the little 10 by 15 sheds which constitute their empire but that is another subject. The owners move their women between stands no doubt in a way to maximize business.

      I roll by this place to park in front of the burger joint where the coffee is two dollars not ten. As I roll by at five-teen miles an hour I get a quick peek if a car is being served at the window. It is a frequent occurrence as the place is busy. My peeks are like seeing a room in darkness when a flashbulb goes off. A momentary vision and it is gone.

      I admit to being a normal heterosexual dog who is attracted to bitches. The first time I rolled by this stand I knew something was up. As I eased my car into my parking space I was aware I had seen an attractive woman who took good care of her body and who had spent a long time putting on body paint that day. The notable thing was that my mind was making a totally objective assessment of what my eyes had taken in. My peek had not been long enough for my brain to change the scene to match what the desire in other parts of my brain wanted to see. Yet it was long enough to get great detail.

      The last peek was terrible. The body was young in her early twenties and her lips had never tasted anything but a soft drink in her entire life. Exercise was a foreign concept to her, but gravity was not. Everything sagged though she was not overweight and a jangle of mismatched tattoos covered her from head to toe. Yet had I been a customer the whole experience would have conspired to make me see her as attractive. As it was for me there was no time for that.

      My brief peeks let me see reality without by brain changing things to match what my gonads wanted me to see. Beauty is indeed within the eye of the beholder but a beholder needs at least a quarter second to ‘fix’ reality if reality needs to be fixed.

      Here is the actual stand I am referring to:

      youtu.be/T5_WpTKZSS4

      • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 1:43 pm #

        BYs has good burgers.

      • JustSaying March 23, 2018 at 2:12 pm #

        That’s because men are really in love with their fantasies of women, not actual women.

        • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 3:03 pm #

          Yes, within a mile you can get Starbucks Coffee at four different locations for $2.70. The Starbucks Corporate Headquarters is only a half mile away. A friend of my sons developed a real jones for one of these ‘fly fishermen‘ and had a ten dollar a day habit for a while. I don’t know if it was the same chain of shops or not. I don’t know the actual price but lets go with $10. Is the following worth the extra $7.30 plus tip?

          Joe its good to see you. I was hoping you’d come by. I missed you yesterday.

          Thanks Mabe, good to see you too.

          Whacha havin, your usual? (she says head slightly tilted and smiling)

          Yes baby, I love the way you give it to me.

          Ha, ha. Your a funny guy Joe. You always make me laugh.

          How’s things going with you Mabe?

          Good Good, trouble with my car though. I need a transmission and don’t know how I’m going to pay for it. The guy at the shop needs $1500.00 I’m trying to get more hours here but the boss says he needs more business before I can have more time. I don’t know what I am going to do. (a flash of concern graces her brow)

          Mabe hands Joe his 16 oz double mocha douchebaggio and Joe hands Mabe a $20.

          Keep the change Mabe, You know you can shift me into high gear anytime you want. You don’t need a transmission for that.

          Ha ha, Thanks Joe, You are so sweet. I wish there were more guys like you. She gives Joe her best twenty dollar smile.

          Joe goes on his way and now Sams the man. Joe spend the rest of his day at work thinking about being in a foreign land far away with Mabe. An orchestra plays a symphony between his ears.

          When not throwing money at Mabe Joe wants lower taxes and a pony. Free beer too.

          • jdhines March 23, 2018 at 3:06 pm #

            KD

            Great story! You may have a future as a writer!

            JD

          • Sean Coleman March 23, 2018 at 7:01 pm #

            JD

            When I first started reading this weblog, years ago, I used to think K Dog and Ozone were among the most stylish posters. I wasn’t sure if I agreed with everything they said. Now I know I don’t but they write well, as do many here.

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 9:50 am #

            “When not throwing money at Mabe Joe wants lower taxes and a pony.”

            Where’s Joe’s imagination, K-Dog? Why settle for a pony when you could have a unicorn? They’re all the rage.

          • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 1:30 am #

            If Joe had that much imagination he could save himself ten bucks a day.

        • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 3:50 pm #

          Thanks, I’ll be happy just having a future.

  10. Luhrenloup March 23, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

    McCabe has been soundly kicked in the derriere. Most of the top agents in the FBI have broken the law repeatedly by going outside their role mandating the detection and prosecution of crimes against the United States. Comey, McCabe, Strzok, and Page were engaged in manipulation of the political system. But, what’s happening to McCabe is not OK. That he gets the shaft on the day before retirement kicks in is schadenfreude. It isn’t about the law, FBI rules or justice. As it happens, he did break the law lying to Congress, a crime worthy of 5 years imprisonment. That’s not going to happen. What happens in DC stays in DC. They are not about to start arresting people in the inner circle thus setting a dangerous precedent that could capture the lot of them in its net.
    What is truly bizarre is that the Comey gang believes in its innocence. Yes, President Trump, Comey is a sanctimonious prig! He who had absolved La Clinton of any criminal wrong-doing before he even interviewed her has no right to claim virtuosity. There is not a single shred of paper, or so much as a Textedit memo about that crucial interview. That McCabe does not mention the money his wife accepted from La Clinton while he was making decisions about her criminality in his latest statement about his innocence is a major omission. And to be sure there’s a lot more we don’t know. A current trend in politics is to openly suggest of one’s opponent that bad things could happen to them, others might seek payback, such as agencies, power brokers.
    We are dealing with a broken system whose agents have lost respect for its fundamental principles.

    • JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

      Not just losing respect, trying to destroy!

    • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 1:41 pm #

      Nice avatar!

    • ozone March 24, 2018 at 10:56 am #

      Luhrenloup,
      Like the site; properly atmospheric with unique linkages and layout.

  11. patrickd March 23, 2018 at 12:47 pm #

    The left is the right, the right is the left, progressive liberals, what nonsense. How many ways are there to separate people? I read every comment – there were about 50 at the time – and didn’t read a single one that mentioned that Russia was going to blow US destroyers out of the water if they decided to murder more Syrians where Russian soldiers are stationed. Not one comment is about how the US is a terrorist organization that has murdered hundreds of millions of civilians in the past 75 years. The US started by first murdering all the Americans who lived in what is now the US mainland. They called them Indians, but they murdered them, stole their land and their resources. AFter the genocide was essentially complete, they plundered the resources of the US mainland and then set their sights on the rest of world. Today, the US is murdering and plundering the resources of the rest of the planet – central America, south America, the middle east, north africa. The commenters are talking about democracy as if it exists in the US America. Are you kidding me? How uneducated! And the commenters talk about war. Seriously? War is armies fighting armies. The US doesn’t do wars, it destroys weak countries only, and especially civilians. It loves to kill civilians. Terrorists? The US arms, trains, and pays Takfiri terrorists, it doesn’t fight them! How uneducated the commenters are here. It’s sad, pathetic. Left, right, progressive, liberal…. how about murder and theft of the world’s citizens? What, oh your TV show is coming on? Oh, never mind, then. Go watch your show.

    • JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 1:05 pm #

      Your exclusive antiAmericanism is naive. Where I agree that more aggressive people have destroyed lesser, the idea that the US is the sole culprit is ludicrous. Right now, aggressor nations include the US , china trying to dominate Asia, Russia trying to dominate Europe and the Middle East, Iran trying to dominate the world in the name of fundamentalist Islam, Brazil trying to dominate South America.

      The real enemy is the People’s culpability to follow aggressive leaders to try to dominate things through their ways. Ethnocentrism and power rule the world unfortunately. Which by the way is exactly what Jesus Christ preached against for three years.

      • Luhrenloup March 23, 2018 at 1:38 pm #

        Truth be told we are voyeurs in the game of thrones. Few are interested in playing, and the stakes are too high. All have their own ways of committing to general well-being through work, community, family. We are moved to action only when it hits the pocketbook.

      • patrickd March 23, 2018 at 2:50 pm #

        The US is the only nation bombing people to death, using drones to murder civilians, stealing resources via military and CIA, overthrowing governments to install puppets. Russia, China, and Iran obey international laws, respect the sovereignty of nations; the US does not. If you think otherwise, you’re brain-washed by empire propaganda. The US is the greatest threat to the world’s survival today, pushing it to the brink of nuclear war by surrounding Russia, China, and Iran with nuclear missile bases, in violation of international law. Yet you say those three nations are aggressors. Wow. Pry yourself away from your TV if you possibly can. Check out alternative news and analysis. You’re being fed lies and propaganda. The US government is a terrorist organization working for banking families, using the military to murder and steal.

        • JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 8:14 pm #

          If the US is the great banking terrorist organization, why is it that the greatest banking family, the Rothschilds and their soldiers George Soros, Obama and Clinton want nothing more than the economic destruction of the United States. I am not the one being fed lies and propaganda.

          • patrickd March 23, 2018 at 9:22 pm #

            We don’t actually disagree about that. The terrorist banking families want to extract wealth where ever it is, including the US. They don’t care about any life on earth except their own. If you’ve got some wealth, they want you to die so they can pick up the wealth and put it in their pocket. They are willing to destroy the whole world.

        • ozone March 24, 2018 at 11:53 am #

          patrickd,
          Consider: Non-sapiens Americanus’ DNA is specifically selected for cavalier adventurism and psychopathic, casual murder of his own species. “Keep ’em breedin’!” saith gawd-almighty to his faithful fat-asses, firmly seated in The Theater of Cruelty, where the multitude has been enjoying the show for generations.

          Which of the entertaining “acts” on the bill will prove to be the demise of a goodly portion of the rapt audience? The rapidly changing climatic conditions; a glorious world-spanning war; a voracious virus that lusts for more life than its hosts can bear; or perhaps an overload of chemical miracles that make life so much more convenient, clean and strangely enough… edible?

          A betting parlor is located in the atrium (Rascal accessible, of course) where we can place our bets. Not being much of a gambling man myself, I still enjoy observing the fevered wagers being placed by various gambling experts, egged on by touts (a.k.a.- pundits). These days, a large mitigating factor to the decisions is which savior is deemed to be “in charge” at the moment.

          **Tangentially, it’s no wonder JHK is not appearing at the Woodstock Book Fest, whose official theme this year is “Read to Resist!”, proceeding as we speak. (Not sure whether he was not invited, or declined the invitation on account of it being an exercise in knee-jerk topicality and short-sightedness.)

          Geez, if reading is resisting, I’m resisting to hell-and-gone, all over the place! I feel better for doing my part, don’t you?

  12. BuckP March 23, 2018 at 12:56 pm #

    “Funny, When Obama Harvested Facebook Data On Millions Of Users To Win year n 2012,Everyone Cheered”
    Headline today in Investors Business Daily

    When the Trump campaign does the same thing it is a scandal!
    Hillary Clinton chances of winning were at 98% the night before the election. So overconfident, she didn’t even campaign in the normally Democratic Rust Belt States. Even against an inexperienced reality TV star/ real estate investor, in order to assure a Clinton very ctory, the Obama administration, the FBI and intelligence agencies beared their teeth and set out to destroy the upstart Trump. This action is very reminiscent of the 1972 Nixon campaign, flush with cash,remember CREEP),who set out to destroy the hopeless candidacy of a man’s man, war veteran, progressive Democrat, George McGovern ( now an endangered species) using whatever means necessary.
    Hillary lost because she alienated Millennials and older progressives, when the DNC,on her behalf, conspired to unfairly subvert the Bernie Sanders candidacy in the primaries. In addition, she had no message. I heard her speak here in Las Vegas and all I remember is her promising to shatter the glass ceiling. I heard Trump speak at the nearby Henderson Pavilion where he talked about jobs, fair trade and the evils of NAFTA. No surprise that he won with the help of votes from people who had previously voted for Obama now looking for a bit of hope.

  13. Jigplate March 23, 2018 at 1:20 pm #

    “But he has labored against the most intense campaign of coordinated calumny ever seen against a chief executive..”

    Examining this with true objectivity shows that it is clearly the case that the vast majority of the Media has a deep , abiding, visceral hatred for Trump , and that they have become simply another arm of the “resistance”. this should be deeply concerning to people who should know better. Even those with masters degrees have been easily swayed by the ” Die Grobe Luge” perpetrated by the American media.

    • Sean Coleman March 23, 2018 at 7:11 pm #

      Yes, this is the big story that leaves everything else in the shade. Same here in Ireland and around most of Europe. It isn’t just the media (although they are the most obvious of course) but the whole unthinking thinking class.

      “Even those with masters degrees have been easily swayed”

      Insert the word “especially” for “even”. It seems that the lack of a university education provides some kind of immunity.

      Psychologists and other thinkers should be studying the problem day and night, but just like the rest they don’t even see a problem. Their problem is the president.

    • jdhines March 24, 2018 at 3:49 pm #

      JP

      Right-wing and Left-wing aside, I don’t see how an individual such as Trump can engender anything but, “a deep, abiding, visceral hatred.” When you witness his complete narcissism and what he says, what he does, his very nature, how could one expect otherwise of a thinking person or organization? Unless of course, that organization (e.g. Fox Noise, RNC, NRA, Christian Right, etc.) believes its agenda (America for the 1% for whatever deluded reasons) will be furthered by said roundly despised individual. May I add that this prick is also roundly despised by his own supporters (witness the comments contained herein)?

      JD

  14. vicsage March 23, 2018 at 2:36 pm #

    Has JHK ever gotten one single prediction of note correct? None that I am aware of. Best to take with a grain of salt these latest fever-dream conjectures. I guess when you’re reliant on click-throughs from nutty sites like ZeroHedge, you gotta play what the folks want to hear.

    • malthuss March 23, 2018 at 3:06 pm #

      Houdini, what are your predictions?

      • vicsage March 23, 2018 at 3:15 pm #

        The only prediction I will make here is that, if JHK predicted it, it ain’t gonna happen.

        • Tate March 23, 2018 at 7:02 pm #

          Everything happens at least once in an infinite universe. Even it not happening will happen at least once.

          • cbeard March 24, 2018 at 6:35 am #

            I like it.

    • Walter B March 23, 2018 at 9:57 pm #

      I cannot recall our host ever being in the business of making predictions my friend. As far as I recall, he has always been the spokesman for conservation of resources and planning for replacement energy and lifestyles when things change down the line. I hope that you are not going to suggest that nothing ever changes, because everything changes and does so constantly, it is just that things changes slowly and gradually. Jim never submits timeframes now does he?

      Everything that Jim says about crude oil falls directly in line with everything that I was schooled to understand to be true. It is a limited resource and it takes a long time to replenish itself, especially at the rates that we use it up. Americans may not have seen much change tin the supply pipelines these days, but then our military is out there stealing oil from every country that has it and is sending it home for us to use. THAT cannot last forever.

      Jim warns of suburban sprawl and the lack of a future when oil becomes more short in supply. I say that suburbia is already collapsing even with cheap gas, because the entire concept wears commuters down even faster than it kills them off. And taxes, well we do not even have to go there, they may very well be what stops the train of “progress”..

      No, James Howard Kunstler is not predictor of the future, he is simply a voice or reason crying in the wilderness and those who do not wish to hear his voice can easily find some one else to listen to.

      • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 6:43 am #

        “because the entire concept wears commuters down even faster than it kills them off. ”

        When I look at images of people driving 30 or 40 miles to work in a congested six-lane highway in the US, I wonder how they can face getting up in the morning. That’s unpaid work right there, before you’ve done anything useful.

        For the last 20 years of my working life I was lucky enough to be able to jump on a bus a minute from my front door for a 20-minute ride. And I could walk to work in 50 minutes, some of it along the canal and through areas with no cars. I realise that’s a privilege of living in a compact city – I just don’t know how the mega-commuters can face it.

      • jdhines March 24, 2018 at 4:02 pm #

        WB

        I generally agree with Jim on Peak Oil and you summarize the situation fairly well. One area that I might question is your assertion that “our military is out there stealing oil from every country that has it and is sending it home for us to use.” If that were the case, it would be the most expensive oil we have ever acquired.

        This from the Right-wing site FrontPage:
        “If oil were a major factor for prosecuting war in Iraq, it stands to reason the United States would be getting substantial amounts of it. It may come as a shock to Greenwald as well as a number of other Americans, but with regard to importing oil, the overwhelming percentage of our imported oil does not come from the Middle East. Canada and Latin America provide the United States with 34.7 percent of our imported oil. Africa provides another 10.3 percent. The entire Persian Gulf, led by Saudi Arabia at 8.1 percent, provides us with a total of 12.9 percent of our imported oil.”

        I did feel a bit “grimy” after my visit there…

        JD

        • Walter B March 24, 2018 at 9:15 pm #

          I understand that I said “sending it back to America” but that’s not exactly what happens if you catch my drift. Connect the dots. I cannot compromise my sources as I am sure you can understand.

          ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Halliburton.html

          The Halliburton Company /?hæl?b??rt?n/ is an American multinational corporation, and one of the world’s largest[6] oil field services companies, with operations in more than 80 countries

          • jdhines March 25, 2018 at 11:54 am #

            WB

            No doubt huge profits were made by the MIC and HC did profit mightily.

            JD

  15. paul0813 March 23, 2018 at 2:39 pm #

    Excellent article Jim, I think you are right on target.

  16. amb March 23, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

    JHK: You have good insights into many of our social and political circumstances. Yet, you completely miss the boat about the financial/economic side. You’ve been making incorrect predictions and forecasts in this area for many years. What type of credibility do you think you have left in this arena?

    You obviously don’t understand the “new economy” the “new finance” or how our monetary and fiscal systems actually work. (You are stuck in and computing off of a bygone era… the gold standard.)

    QE doesn’t ruin the USD. It doesn’t cause inflation (evidenced by the fact that none of the recent QE has done so). QE is just swapping assets.

    This government is the monopoly printer of its own currency, the USD. It can NEVER run out of $ to pay its obligations, etc.

    Hyper-inflation can only happen if the whole population loses confidence and trust in its government (that is what happened in Weimar, Zimbabwe and Venezuela). They had debt in other currencies. They didn’t have a bond market. They were all revolutionary governments that had defaulted on their obligations. The USA will NEVER NEVER EVER be in those sort of circumstances.

    Please come up to PRESENT TIME and get educated. You need knowledge, the true facts about our economic history and sophistication in this area. Stop spreading falsehoods and lies.

  17. Tate March 23, 2018 at 3:23 pm #

    Why did President Trump nominate nut job John Bolton as his security advisor? The only thing I can come up with is he’s scraping the bottom of the barrel. At this point nobody else of any credibility and stature will report to work for him. Thus Bolton is the only one left who will take the job. Sad.

    • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 4:29 pm #

      Bottom of the barrel indeed.

      Josef Mengele is dead so he can’t be the Surgeon General as Trump wished. Trump has to settle for another war criminal instead.

      What I find interesting is that Bolton’s past has been scrubbed clean so he only looks to have emerged as the conservative nut job he is since he was busy in the Bush administration. Some serious sanitation has been performed. I imagine he got his think tanks to do that job. He certainly had the resources to remake himself over as he did. Not a peep about his sanctioning of South American murders or his involvement in Iran Contra at all.

      This was not Trumps smartest move and expresses a rampant disregard for his fellow Americans who do not share his vision of a new great unsustainable American empire built on a rentier economy. Naming Bolton as national security adviser could get America into a war. A civil war, and not the one with Iran Trump and Bolton are both drooling for.

      warcriminalswatch.org/index.php/the-culpable/36-the-culprits/67-john-r-bolton

      • FincaInTheMountains March 23, 2018 at 5:42 pm #

        Naming Bolton as national security adviser could get America into a war

        I highly doubt it, not with today military strategic balance.

        There are three major power clans in US today – the Trump clan, Obama/Bush clan and Clinton clan.

        The Bolton’s appointment is most likely a result of a compromise between Trump and Obama/Bush against Clinton. (In my terminology alliance of Western Red and White Projects against the Black).

  18. FincaInTheMountains March 23, 2018 at 5:31 pm #

    Bolton addresses the Russian people on the 20th anniversary of the adoption of the Russian Constitution (December 12, 2013)

    youtube.com/watch?v=aPM-FXHj5gA

    • Tate March 23, 2018 at 5:58 pm #

      I’m all for the right to keep & bear arms but WTF?!
      I mean if we want to invade and conquer Russia, we can’t be encouraging them to arm their citizens, can we?

      • FincaInTheMountains March 24, 2018 at 1:41 am #

        I mean if we want to invade and conquer Russia

        Believe me, you don’t.

  19. Ishabaka March 23, 2018 at 6:16 pm #

    Elizabeth Warren was venting her (considerable) fury at another man today – and a black one at that. What she fails to realize is that she will never be president – men simply won’t vote for such an angry woman. That was part of Hillary’s problem. It plays to the victim mentality of the Democratic faithful, but turns off the independents – who are what is really needed to win.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 6:30 pm #

      Yes, such harridians and fish wives are a curse of the human species. One hopeful fact: nowadays they seldom breed. A century ago they would be making their husband and kids miserable. So to the extent it’s genetic, it’s a self correcting trait in a non-traditional society.

    • Sean Coleman March 23, 2018 at 7:19 pm #

      Is the story true that she once claimed to be an Indian at university?

      • Sean Coleman March 23, 2018 at 7:20 pm #

        I suppose ‘Snopes’ says it is fake news.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 9:25 pm #

        To get into said university. Affirmative Action so called, the repudiation of what Martin Luther King supposedly believed about race not mattering, only “the contents of character”.

        King believed in Affirmative Action though it wasn’t called that yet.

        • K-Dog March 23, 2018 at 10:49 pm #

          I hear the cottonwoods whisp’rin’ above
          Janos! Janos! Janos in love
          The old hootie owl hootie hoo’s to the dove
          Janos! Janos! Janos’s in love

          His heart beats so joyfully
          You’d think that she could hear!

          brittany-pettibone.com/about-me/

          Janos! Janos! Janos in love

          Don’t say I never gave you anything. I just tossed you a bone. Enjoy.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 11:02 pm #

            Every young woman should write a book called “About Me” and then have to read it front of a jeering crowd. An initiation. This Thot has been trying to date her way up the chain of White Nationalism so she’s in position to marry the Fuhrer when he appears. She ditched based Stickman for her current beau.

          • K-Dog March 24, 2018 at 12:33 am #

            You just have to close your eyes, imagine you are the next Fuhrer, and it will all be good.

    • tucsonspur March 23, 2018 at 7:31 pm #

      Did she hurl the tomahawk?

      Mention Warren and I can’t resist. “Please Mrs. Warren, I don’t wanna go….”:

      youtube.com/watch?v=fe0q8Lq3L2Q

  20. BackRowHeckler March 23, 2018 at 6:38 pm #

    Quite a summary Jim; things look bleak to say the least. Combine that with a sizable portion of the populace hooked on heroine and opioids and another big chunk alcoholic, maybe the whole thing will just collapse; after that it will be every man for himself.

    brh

  21. BackRowHeckler March 23, 2018 at 6:42 pm #

    and tomorrow we got the kiddies and their watchful moms in DC protesting … what? the 2nd amendment? The existence of firearms? Human nature itself? Evil? Bad things happening?

    Its not clear. Its a whole jumble of things apparently.

    brh

  22. tucsonspur March 23, 2018 at 7:11 pm #

    test

  23. tucsonspur March 23, 2018 at 7:20 pm #

    “But he has labored against the most intense campaign of coordinated calumny ever seen against a chief executive and his fortitude, at least, is impressive.” JHK

    Exactly right. A fortitude based on MAGA. A flawed man in a flawed system so corrupt that it’s sowing the seeds of its own destruction. Exposing its deep rooted deviousness by its desperate desire to destroy Trump. Bit by its own snake.

    Bolton may be the pin in the Trump grenade.

  24. unirealist March 23, 2018 at 8:34 pm #

    “But he (Trump) has labored against the most intense campaign of coordinated calumny ever seen against a chief executive and his fortitude, at least, is impressive.”

    There’s the money quote right there.

    It isn’t Trump that they are destroying, it’s the Presidency, and the Republic will never recover from the damage that’s been done.

    • Sean Coleman March 24, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

      Yes

    • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 3:29 pm #

      “It isn’t Trump that they are destroying, it’s the Presidency, and the Republic will never recover from the damage that’s been done.”

      I look forward to your Republic and your institutions recovering in the course of time from the damage done both by Trump and by those trying to unseat him by undemocratic means. I also look forward to him being unseated in the fullness of time by entirely democratic means.

      And to some bipartisan swamp draining, for good measure.

      But not to his first post-presidential book deal.

      Hope springs eternal…

    • Sean Coleman March 25, 2018 at 3:56 pm #

      … As I was saying. Yes.

  25. Pucker March 23, 2018 at 8:51 pm #

    No sooner did the dust settle from the American Revolutionary War, than the society divided over the “Federalist” (Strong Central Government) versus the “Anti-Federalist” (Strong States) debate. This debate may now be flaring up again as the People seem to be Awakening to prospect of a tyranny of the Military Industrial Intelligence Congressional Complex “Deep State”?

  26. Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 9:35 pm #

    freedomoutpost.com/trump-caves-signs-1-3-trillion-omnibus-bill-loaded-everything-democrats-want-pret…

    Read it and weep. Trump has outraged his entire base and everyone who matters in America. Will this perhaps end the Mueller investigation? A few words whispered in his horse’s ear from one of his Masters?

    Paul Ryan and Chuck Schumer, both very pleased. The triumph of the Neos over the organic, actual America.

    Huge increase for “Defense” and that’s his excuse. Defense? Of what? America? If so, where the money for the Wall? This is for Offense and it utterly offensive. Trump should take the money he needs for the Wall from the bloated “Defense” budget – if he has the balls. It’s his duty as Commander and Chief. It’s also a great way to become wize by opening up the third eye.

    • 100th Avatar March 23, 2018 at 11:51 pm #

      Defense of a benefactor in ole Sheldon Adelson.
      Even went so far as to hire his lackey, John “my mustache tells me to bomb things” Bolton.
      The US hasn’t exhausted enough of its wealth and its naive volunteer army reshaping the Middle East (to protect our freedom LOL) as Irving Kristol and his disciple, Wolfowitz, intended.
      So much unfinished work in the project for a new American century.
      Big timeframes here.
      They have some patience.
      I’m sure Sheldon is cutting Jared and Trump in on some exciting casino hotel deals.
      That’s the art, of the political deal.

      • elysianfield March 24, 2018 at 11:29 am #

        Avatar,
        I loathe Adelson for other reasons. He is formost the reason we do not have Poker on the Internet. I would expect the air would be cleaner were he not breathing it.

  27. JohnAZ March 23, 2018 at 10:49 pm #

    Right on, Pucker and Janos

    Think of the Deep State as the Federalist combination of the establishment Dems and GOP. The anti-Federalist as ironically the neo cons and the ult Left. Trump is a pragmatist trying to get his program in being as anti Deep State as he can. He tried working with the GOP, both sides, and it did not work in 2017. So now he is trying what he is noted for, making a deal. The Establishment GOP blew it, and I think they have lost the allegiance of Trump. Now he will work with whoever to get his agenda accomplished. So watch out GOP, he is not totally dedicated to you anymore. It is the Deep State that hates Trump, I sorta expect the establishment GOP did the same BS to Trump’s campaign as the Dems did. Remember Romney. And it is the Deep State that has allegiance to the globalists, Soros et al. Think who voted for Trump, Tea Party, the Dems from the rust belt, tariff supporters from Bernie Sanders, voters from both sides. All anti- Deep State!

  28. Pucker March 23, 2018 at 11:06 pm #

    The Trade War and the huge US Federal Government deficit will be inflationary, which will drive interest rate increases, which will crash the stock market? And the property market?

    What will the money flow to?

    • BackRowHeckler March 23, 2018 at 11:15 pm #

      Oxycontin, percs, heroin, weed, crack, speedballs and reds.

      • Pucker March 24, 2018 at 12:19 am #

        What is “OxyContin”?

        • Tate March 24, 2018 at 2:07 am #

          Research Purdue Pharma (Sackler family). Oxycontin was their big moneymaker, IIRC. It’s described as time-released Oxycodone.

        • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 6:57 am #

          newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/30/the-family-that-built-an-empire-of-pain

          Read and learn, Pucker, read and learn… I assure you it’s worth the time.

          TL;DR: This family of er… high-achieving people you won’t see anywhere near a correctional facility where poor drug users end up are why you have the opioids crisis you currently have. But they made b-i-l-l-i-o-n-s before they changed the formulation. And when they finally did, those already hooked on the initial formulation (which they said had an extremely low addiction rate…) were already primed to switch straight over to heroin.

          Entrepreneurialism at its best. All hail the system…

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 7:07 am #

            And this one…

            forbes.com/sites/kaifalkenberg/2013/01/02/why-rating-your-doctor-is-bad-for-your-health/#591bf55833c…

            … is quite interesting on why medicine-as-consumerism is a bad idea and why your doctor should not be rated (as s/he currently is in the US) according to how well s/he does in giving you what you want rather than what you need (or very often don’t need).

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 7:38 am #

            “[they] were already primed to switch straight over to heroin…”

            And once that has happened, you can deflect the blame to Mexico. So ‘kerr-ching’ for the Sacklers and ‘bingo!’ for Trump. Neat, eh?

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 7:40 am #

            “It’s the same the whole world over
            It’s the poor what gets the blame
            It’s the rich what gets the pleasure
            Ain’t it all a bloomin’ shame?”

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 10:01 am #

            Sung with a Cockney accent, naturally 🙂 .

            [Chorus of “She Was Poor but She Was Honest”, an anonymous and somewhat mawkish street ballad of the late 19th century.]

    • K-Dog March 24, 2018 at 12:42 am #

      war

    • johngalt March 24, 2018 at 1:18 am #

      The money has already flowed…….
      “Wealth is the ability to fully experience life.”
      -JG-

  29. Janos Skorenzy March 23, 2018 at 11:46 pm #

    sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/03/20/walmart-launches-autonomous-scanning-robots/

    Walmart Employees have been programmed to answer inquiries by saying, The robots won’t be taking jobs, just improving them, giving us more time for customer service.

    Maybe it’s a good thing to replace robotic people with actual robots. At least things become more clear. Without robotic people, the Elite could never have gotten to this stage where they could actually replace people. Schools exist to break the spirit, allowing Employers to program their workers. People who refuse programming end up homeless and dying. But no human can compete with an actual machine in being a machine. After all, we’re created in the image of God. The likeness is our responsibility though….

    • K-Dog March 24, 2018 at 12:48 am #

      Robots are hard to fix. It takes several humans to support a robot which has the sustained productivity of even a single human. They are expensive to buy and maintain. They break down frequently. They are also very rare.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 1:43 am #

        Well, how about automation then? There’s whole factories fully automated, with just a few human overseers with electronic whips. Where do we draw the line between a dumb machine and a robot? Amazon is going full speed ahead as well as I’m sure you’ve heard. Robots? Or just machines doing as programmed. A matter of definition of course. In any case, you folks will continue to work as hard as possible on both fronts. Sex robots are also here now too. And anyone who disagrees with any of this is just lazy, right? Or do you care to rephrase that?

        As someone said a couple of clusterfucks ago (a new quanta of time), INTPs see the whole picture, other types tend not to. Your technical, scientific, and mathematical abilities dwarf mine, but you’re no INTP or born philosopher. Of course you could work on that – you have the raw materials of IQ, sympathy, inquisitiveness, and sensitivity to beauty.

        Perhaps movement could be the criterion? Thus a Roomba would be a primitive robot, thought without cognitive abilities. As would be the Amazon and Walmart prototypes. I’m not sure that these would require any more care than the average computerized cash register.

        • capt spaulding March 24, 2018 at 11:26 am #

          Once again, read Rise of the Robots by Martin Ford for an intelligent forecast of the results of an accelerating technology, and the impact it will have within 15 to 20 years. It’s gonna change the world. And it’s already beginning.

          • JohnAZ March 24, 2018 at 11:47 am #

            Capn Spaulding is spot on. Martin Ford is a product of Silicon Valley and knows his stuff. Be prepared to be shocked over how insidious the AI revolution is.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 2:51 pm #

            Kraftwerk’s “We Are the Robots”

            youtube.com/watch?v=-wop47G2qeY

          • jdhines March 24, 2018 at 4:18 pm #

            CS

            “Rise of the Robots,” An excellent recommendation captain, very enlightening and very alarming. I pity the very young and what they have to look forward to.

            JD

          • thwack March 24, 2018 at 8:44 pm #

            We should have picked our own cotton

            youtube.com/watch?v=SLNo4lMC8bM

      • elysianfield March 24, 2018 at 11:32 am #

        Dog,
        To fix and maintain them you need opposable thumbs….

      • JohnAZ March 24, 2018 at 11:55 am #

        Now! AI will monitor and fix Robots down the road. People are very expensive to employers, payroll taxes, benefits, salary is only part. Advice is already saying to stay away from programming as AI code writers will take over the field. AI will get into everything eliminating blue and white collar jobs and currently their is no will to stop the revolution. Just another way for the elite to devalue the middle class.

  30. Pucker March 23, 2018 at 11:47 pm #

    Trump may be using the Corruption and Lunacy to drive the US Federal Government into bankruptcy? And then they buy up everything 10 cents on the dollar?

  31. 100th Avatar March 24, 2018 at 12:04 am #

    The sword of Muellercoles is working wonders in preserving the status quo.
    No wall, no changes in the immigration laws that ensure an exploitable labor pool, no investigation of Clinton Inc, no responsible budgets, no cabinet members to serve as a bulwark against the MIC and their attendant neocon hawks (adios Flynn and McMaster) no actions against sanctuary states, no travel bans, no swamp draining, no problems hiring Goldman Sachs bankers, no problem seizing guns.

    But he still has Twitter.

    • janet March 24, 2018 at 12:52 am #

      The deplorables were conned by Trump. There were at least 17 presidential candidates and no need to vote for Trump or Clinton. The blame for our economy being crashed by Trump lies squarely on the heads of the deplorables who voted Trump into office.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 24, 2018 at 1:36 am #

      He’s doing alright for now. You think you would’ve done better?

  32. FincaInTheMountains March 24, 2018 at 12:44 am #

    On the issue of Bush’s victory in the war in Iraq

    To begin with, I would like to note that it was Saddam Hussein who played a very significant role in the fact that privatization in Russia has gone in such a terrible way and tens of millions of my compatriots died as a result of the collapse of the economy.

    And President Bush, even if he did not realized that, but quite righteously avenged him for their horrible fate.

    Indeed, it was Saddam Hussein’s aggression against Kuwait that forced the US to deploy troops to Saudi Arabia and force them to increase oil production by tens of percent, in particular out of concern that the conflict would be protracted. Shortly before this, Saddam Hussein (as well as Gaddafi) spat in the face of the USSR, which had supported him for many years, and contacted precisely those politicians in the US, Europe and Moscow (sic!), who then not only made a roadmap of disintegration of the USSR, but also began to calculate how many millions of people needed to service the oil/gas pipe and how many millions are superfluous.

    And Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait precisely from their pitch, knowing full well what role he had to play in these plans, as well as the fact that the lawfully elected US President George Bush actively disapproves these plans.

    And it’s not Saddam Hussein fault that in reality he played a completely different role and became the first victim of his own betrayal.

    And when the vaunted Republican Guard of Saddam Hussein was defeated in just a few days, and oil production in Saudi Arabia increased many times, it was then that the price of oil fell so that Russia began to export it at a loss, as the price of a barrel of oil was below the average cost of production.

    Naturally, the price of oil fields fell to a negative value, which allowed Saddam Hussein’s counterparts, who pushed him to this adventure, to buy them for a pittance. But the matter did not stop there and during the decisive stage of privatization the Russian state turned out to be without money for the police, the army and creation of a modern banking system. Moreover, without money to pay salaries, which actually created the prerequisites for the collapse of the ruble, the burning of savings in the savings bank, and massive impoverishment of the population.

    And believe me, I know a lot of bad things about the US, but the administration of George Bush Sr. was well aware that this was a recipe for the Versailles peace, not for the Marshall plan. And George Bush Sr really wanted to direct the events in a different direction, and from purely pragmatic considerations, knowing full well that the result of the Versailles World 2.0 will be the same for the West as last time. By the way, all of these accusations of Putin in a resemblance to Hitler are connected precisely with the events planned in the distant 1991 and it was Hitler 2.0 that they have been waiting for since that time.
    And now try guessing what plans for Russia the Clintons had in 1992 and how they argued to the elites that the fears of the former director of the CIA have no basis, seeking power in 1990-1992. And ask yourself what they relation they had to the diplomats who let Saddam Hussein know that the US will look the other way if Iraq occupies Kuwait, literally pushing him into this adventure.

    By the way, Saddam, in gratitude for the place under the sun, promised to increase oil production even more than Saudi Arabia actually did in fact, mainly due to the West Qurna field.

  33. Breck March 24, 2018 at 12:47 am #

    What?! you mean there still is a rule of law in these united States? How nice!

  34. janet March 24, 2018 at 12:49 am #

    Trump is going to crash the American economy with his unilateral declaration of a trade war with China. Stocks plunged Friday. A second day of big losses pushed U.S. stocks to their worst week in two years. China is going to win this war.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 24, 2018 at 1:39 am #

      With the Flying Monkeys out of the picture, there is a very good chance of revitalizing the US economy.

  35. FincaInTheMountains March 24, 2018 at 1:27 am #

    On the issue of Bush’s victory in the war in Iraq (continued)

    The second Iraq war began in a situation very similar to today, or rather similar, but a lot worse.

    Let me remind you that then President Clinton threatened Russia for the second Chechen war in terms of similar threats against Milosevic for trying to establish a constitutional order in Kosovo.

    And President Yeltsin, sitting in China in the office of the Chinese prime minister, in response, reminded him of Russia’s nuclear triad. Only then the Russian Strategic Missile Forces, as well as all the other components of the nuclear triad, were in a much worse shape than they’re now, and the Clintons in response to these threats, without thinking twice, sanctioned the arrest in New York the head of the Union State of Russia and Belarus, who came to President-elect George W. Bush inauguration!!!!!

    And Pavel Borodin found himself in Central Booking and American offenders rejoiced at his humiliation when he was led along the corridor and someone whispered the latest news to the inmates.

    Even they felt pride for their country, humiliating their most dangerous enemy!

    And between these two events, the Kursk submarine “drowned”. And I do not know why it drowned, but I know that the freshly-elected President Putin was notified at that time that it was sunk by two multi-purpose American submarines “Toledo” and “Memphis.”

    And in Sochi, the President of Russia sat with a finger on the red button, because it was not known what was happening – an accident, provocation or the beginning of an attack on Russia by superior forces of NATO.

    A few days later, President Clinton was in a hurry to give Russia a hundred and forty million dollars, allegedly for the dismantlement of other nuclear submarines.

    In America then, there were a lot of people who not only sympathized with the dead seamen and were ready to pay them to stop this dangerous and senseless occupation – to prepare for a retaliatory strike against the United States, a very democratic country which if bombed someone, then it would definitely apologize.

    And in America, then, there were people who believed and even propagated this view in the media, that Russia must be destroyed now, while it is weak, and opponents objected to that, however weak it may be, it is still capable of inflicting unacceptable damage.

    And so the West had to wait another 10 years, when everything will fall apart by itself from old age, including the Strategic Missile Forces, the nuclear submarines of project 667 and Tu-160.

    And the commander-in-chief of NATO forces, General Wesley Clarke, simply ordered NATO troops to attack the Russian peacekeepers in Pristina Airport.

    So Putin from the very beginning of his presidency constantly thinks about the circumstances in which he will press that button.

    And in this situation, President George W. Bush took advantage of the September 11 terrorist attacks not only to deal with the “villain” who threatened to kill his father, but also to take many of the excessively aggressive American troops to Iraq away from Russia, as well as Obama in his time took away from Ukraine many unnecessarily aggressive NATO military.

    And he sends them back to Iraq, where they will be met with so many enthusiasts of playing football with human heads whom the American soldiers so horribly tortured in Abu Ghraib (for which, incidentally, they were severely punished).

    And even from the point of view of international laws, US President Bush had every right to crack down on Saddam Hussein, since the peace after the first Iraq war was never concluded, and the ceasefire was stipulated by many conditions that Saddam Hussein constantly violated.

    And I do not know why Colin Powell needed a vial with white powder, but they say that since then American diplomats, when they need to lie about something, put such vial in their pocket, and then there is no sin in lying and it goes smoothly across!

    And believing in crossing fingers is not fashionable any more.

  36. Pucker March 24, 2018 at 3:36 am #

    Bernie got to keep all of the money left over from his campaign after he caved after getting shafted by Hillary. Pretty Sweet….

    theintercept.com/2018/03/23/deconstructed-podcast-we-need-to-talk-about-inequality-with-bernie-sande…

    • FincaInTheMountains March 24, 2018 at 8:30 am #

      Sweet?

      Try going after Hillary yourself, doofus, and then tell us how sweet it was.

      Putin is hiding his two daughters for 10 years now from Bastinda.

      • janet March 24, 2018 at 10:56 am #

        Just goes to show you can have power and money, but never be out of the reach of Bastinda. How Putin must suffer. 76% support, the other 24% missing, nerve gas suspected. /s

        • FincaInTheMountains March 24, 2018 at 11:27 am #

          Do you think she’ll recover from the blow she received, appearing at the scene of the crime in Mumbai?

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks

          The souls of innocently massacred in the attack weighted heavily on her.

          • janet March 24, 2018 at 11:35 am #

            9/11? Bastinda. The Jewish Holocaust? Bastinda. She is used to carrying the weight of all the dead souls from all the massacres she has instigated, including those in Arkansas. /s

  37. Elrond Hubbard March 24, 2018 at 12:33 pm #

    After misconduct complaint, Jordan Peterson agrees to plan for clinical improvement
    There were concerns about the quality of his service, doctor/patient boundaries, and the way he communicates with patients

    nationalpost.com/news/canada/after-misconduct-complaint-jordan-peterson-agrees-to-plan-for-clinical-…

    “Celebrity psychology professor Jordan Peterson was the subject of a professional misconduct complaint for his work as a clinical psychologist, resulting in a written promise that he respects his patients’ boundaries and will address how he communicates with them.

    “The author of the best-selling 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos has entered into an agreement with the College of Psychologists of Ontario to ‘prioritize clinical work with clients above other competing interests, including appropriate client communications.’

    “A decision describing this agreement was released last month, and is to be in effect at least into May.

    “There are no details of who made the allegation of professional misconduct, nor what it involves, other than that it led to concerns about the quality of his service, doctor/patient boundaries, and the way he communicates with patients.

    The YouTube sensation and shining beacon of the alt-right has been placed on a performance improvement plan by his profession. (As a neoliberal subject myself, actually, I can relate.) His CPO listing is here — click on ‘Discipline & Other Proceedings’ to see the professional misconduct allegation.

    Dr. Peterson is already raking in the dough by sharing his bon mots online with millions of impressionable young people, who at least are getting what they’re paying him for. But his patients are paying him to get well, not to be targets for his pet theories and profiteering. For their sake, if no one else’s, here’s hoping he learns to straighten up and fly right.

    (Side note to aficionados of true crime and schadenfreude. Many professions are subject to colleges and associations that regulate their members’ behaviour: doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, etc.. When you have a spare moment, look up the professional colleges in your area and Google their disciplinary records. Some of it’s boring, but you get the occasional gem like the doctor who slept with his patients, the pharmacist with a ‘side business’, the dentist who kicked back to his patients and padded his insurance claims, etc. Not exactly In Cold Blood, but it’s good clean fun, and it’s free.)

    • PeteAtomic March 24, 2018 at 2:15 pm #

      Peterson is not a beacon of the alt-right. He argues against Richard Spencer’s line of argument as well as the Marxist one.

      • K-Dog March 24, 2018 at 8:59 pm #

        Peterson advocates personal responsibility which among the undisciplined is considered the same as oppression and racism. Thus his confusion with the alt-right. One of Peterson messages is to get your own shit together before you tell other people to get theirs together.

        I’ve been pissed off by Peterson’s use of the ‘Marxist‘ label but have come to understand that some weird white self hatred has infected upper class white Canadians. I do not know what is in it for these privileged assheads to loose their minds and start hating themselves and rejecting their own culture but they are indeed doing it. I did not even know that Canada had a sordid past to be ashamed of. I suspect they have to look hard for it. I do not see oppression as a feature of Canadian common culture but hey, what do I know?

        A pillar of their madness apparently is ‘forced equity’ where everything is taken and redistributed among minorities to reconcile past wrongs. Apparently however they only talk about giving away their shit and don’t actually do it. I suspect they will come to there senses before a dime drops from their hands. To help them with this somebody needs to tell them that Canadians never had slavery. That was the Americans, so they can keep their shit and don’t have to give it away to total strangers.

        The use of the word ‘Marxist’ as a catchphrase to describe idiots who advocate forced equity is insulting to anyone who actually knows anything about Marxism.

        • K-Dog March 24, 2018 at 9:16 pm #

          Peterson is coming to Seattle in May and I have tickets to see him. My son is one of the ‘impressionable young people’ who have been following him. Impressionable is an interesting word. I can say something and I am ignored completely. But if Peterson says the exact same thing my son hears every word. Go figure.

          I have premium tickets so I’ll probably meet him. If I can I’ll suggest a different word. Perhaps a new one? ‘Equitarian’ seems good. Any suggestions?

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 8:02 am #

            If it’s any comfort, K-Dog (not that I’m suggesting you need it), I found much later with my daughter who was the more argumentative, difficult one as a teenager, that she had actually listened and even incorporated the advice into her life for later, but just wouldn’t admit it at the time.

            If my experience is anything to go by, you can look forward to your son even thanking you when he’s a bit older for the way you brought him up.

            My daughter reckons she paid off her 30-year mortgage in 12 years because of the way she was brought up. I just think she managed it because she’s like that.

        • Elrond Hubbard March 25, 2018 at 9:52 am #

          K-Dog: “Peterson advocates personal responsibility which among the undisciplined is considered the same as oppression and racism.”

          Personal responsibility, in certain people’s mouths, is a way to deflect demands from people who face structural obstacles to exercising their freedom or simply participating in society. As the Canadian commentator Jesse Brown put it:

          “[Jordan Peterson’s] answer to oppression is to improve yourself. Not allowed to vote? Improve yourself! Enslaved? Improve yourself! These are historical examples of oppression, but they were not overcome through self-help. Women got the right to vote, and black people got desegregation, and queer people got basic human rights, and workers got the minimum wage, and we all got weekends — by fighting. As groups, as self-identified groups, through identity politics — by fighting for social justice.”

          Peterson, and many who follow him, faces no such obstacles and deems these demands an irritation. What’s more, structural change that could actually address those problems might cost him something. Far easier, then, to pretend that no one faces any problem that isn’t of their own making; this justifies what is his actual, instinctive reaction: “Quit bugging me!”. So, I guess it’s up to those of us who consider these demands more than a mere irritation to take personal responsibility for addressing yet one more obstacle, namely Jordan Peterson and his movement.

          K-Dog: ” I did not even know that Canada had a sordid past to be ashamed of. I suspect they have to look hard for it.”

          Don’t be fooled by our brand identity. Canada’s brand is that we’re boring — nothing we do is worth getting worked up about, for better or for worse. The true reason why we have to look hard to find our sordid past is because we’ve so successfully effaced it, including from ourselves.

          The idea that facing past crimes, admitting them and seeking to make amends equals hating oneself and rejecting one’s own culture is more of the same kind of deflection that Peterson practices and advocates.

          • PeteAtomic March 25, 2018 at 12:17 pm #

            Elrond you are completely mischaracterizing Peterson’s argument.

            You are simply building strawmen arguments, here.

            Are Canadians enslaved, or not allowed to vote? Today, in 2018? Not 100 years ago, or 150 years ago, or 500 years ago. Today.

            I’d love to hear you argue for an affirmative to that question.

          • Elrond Hubbard March 25, 2018 at 2:31 pm #

            Challenge accepted, PeteAtomic; except to start with, I reject your framing. You know as well as I do that there is no law denying the vote to identifiable groups or enabling chattel slavery in either Canada or the USA in 2018, so your challenge is disingenuous from the get-go. But what this is about is structural issues: the kinds of societal problems that can exist and perpetuate themselves regardless of black-letter law.

            I’ll use the situation of Canada’s First Nations (aka Indians) to make my point. In 1876, the Canadian Parliament passed the Indian Act (still in effect today, with amendments), which “allows the government to control most aspects of aboriginal life: Indian status, land, resources, wills, education, band administration and so on.” (Link.) First Nations people effectively became lifelong minors, with two possible fates: either stay where they were put, as ‘status Indians’ living on reservations, or give up their status, leave the reservation, and be treated as though they were white people (i.e. as though they had fully recognized rights). Either way, though, they would first be stolen from their families and sent to residential schools.

            The residential schools were deliberately located far away from students’ homes. Denied any contact with their families for years at a time, these children were ‘educated’ to curricula set by white society. The schools became notorious dens of inadequate administration; neglect, malign or benign; physical and sexual abuse; and rampant dysfunction. Most of the grown people who eventually came out of the schools were left equally dysfunctional as a result.

            After being brutalized in the schools, those who returned to the reservations under federal authority weren’t allowed to engage in business, accumulate property or otherwise participate in any kind of development or improvement of their own lives. All they could do was accept whatever policy was enacted by the federal government of the day. In particular, First Nations as a whole were denied any control over resources deemed to have value (Canada being awash in natural resources), despite being the original inhabitants of land over which such rights were explicitly not ceded under previously signed treaties. With no goal or purpose to their lives, this made the reservations into sumps of listlessness and misery, prone to alcoholism and social problems of every description. “Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” simply wasn’t a concept; by the design of the Indian Act, there was nothing to work with, on purpose.

            Nor were they allowed to vote (though this was changed in 1960). This means that nearly a century went by in which European settlers, now Canadians, appropriated resources and accumulated wealth all around them, while First Nations were left behind in immiserated and disenfranchised poverty. They could neither live the life their ancestors had lived, nor participate in the life around them. All they could do was endure the place prepared for them, which was nowhere.

            The alternative to living on a reservation was to give up your ‘status’ and go live in a city, presumably armed by your school experience with the knowledge of how to be a white person. Except the the schools didn’t prepare them for actual life in a Canadian city any more than it prepared them for the lives their ancestors had once lived, to say nothing of the prejudice and ghettoization that greeted most who tried.

            The very last of the residential schools was closed as recently as 1996. The story of the children taken from their families to be sent there is our story, as Canadians, today. Grown adults asked today about their experiences there turn silent and struggle for composure. In the light of their experience, First Nations people themselves convened a truth and reconciliation commission which concluded, fairly in my view, that the residential school system amounted to cultural genocide. The protagonists of that story are alive today. Their story is one that is happening today, in 2018 — not 100 years ago, or 150 years ago, or 500 years ago, but today. The structural issues that continue to exist today were created by this history, and to refuse to grapple with this history is to choose ignorance.

            Last note (once again I’ve gone on way too long, but): you asked about Canadians, so I talked about Canadians. But there are, in fact, Americans who are enslaved today. The 13th amendment didn’t abolish slavery; it just added the hurdle ‘except as punishment for crime duly convicted’, and convicts have commonly been used as a slave labour force and are to this day. Such exploitation is one of the reasons the U.S. has just about the highest incarceration rate in the world. And yes, many Americans are denied the vote as well, by various means, including shenanigans with voter registration, lifetime voting bans for people convicted of something as pointless as marijuana possession (rapidly becoming legalized in your country and soon in mine), and so forth.

            How did I do, PeteAtomic?

          • Elrond Hubbard March 25, 2018 at 7:36 pm #

            Am I imagining things, PeteAtomic, or above did you not write the following?

            “Are Canadians enslaved, or not allowed to vote? Today, in 2018? Not 100 years ago, or 150 years ago, or 500 years ago. Today.

            “I’d love to hear you argue for an affirmative to that question.” (Emphasis added.)

            Asked and answered, Pete. Say anything you want about my Sunday afternoon, but I addressed the substance of your post. Meanwhile, on the evidence of your response, you have excused yourself from recognizing that I actually met your challenge. Talk about straw men…

            Anyway, I may have more to say about Jordan Peterson’s work later, nor not, as I please. But recall that I said above that Peterson’s finger-wagging is about deflection. There are problems that can’t be solved by the people who experience them, because those problems are imposed on them from without. As an example of the kind of deflection I’m talking about, responding to their concerns with jibber-jabber about ‘cleaning your room’ is almost too on-the-nose.

        • PeteAtomic March 25, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

          “The use of the word ‘Marxist’ as a catchphrase to describe idiots who advocate forced equity is insulting to anyone who actually knows anything about Marxism.”

          OK, how about “neo-Marxism of the French school” is what he has specifically denounced in his talks, but in general far right & far left extremism, along with state forced speech measures.

          • PeteAtomic March 25, 2018 at 6:48 pm #

            Elrond, you really ought to spend some time actually finding out what a thinker believes, like Peterson, before you spend probably a better part of your Sunday afternoon creating strawman arguments which you’ve gleaned from other individuals who haven’t listened to the man either, apparently.

            Start with Peterson’s lecture on cleaning your room, as a first step.

          • PeteAtomic March 26, 2018 at 9:29 am #

            The only thing you’ve confirmed to me Elrond is that you are an ideologue who needs to perform twisted logical acrobatics in an attempt to prove his point.

            “Asked and answered, Pete. Say anything you want about my Sunday afternoon, but I addressed the substance of your post.”

            Criminals aren’t slaves. The fact people do have tough lives does not preclude those people from beginning to have better ones.

            Listen to many of Peterson’s lectures, and you’ll get a better sense to what you are trying to argue against.

          • PeteAtomic March 26, 2018 at 9:38 am #

            “Anyway, I may have more to say about Jordan Peterson’s work later, nor not, as I please.”

            You won’t Elrond, because you clearly are showing that you know nothing about what he actually stands for. It is easier for you to read other people’s equally distorted views, that confirm your own biases.

            “But recall that I said above that Peterson’s finger-wagging is about deflection. There are problems that can’t be solved by the people who experience them, because those problems are imposed on them from without. As an example of the kind of deflection I’m talking about, responding to their concerns with jibber-jabber about ‘cleaning your room’ is almost too on-the-nose.”

            Again, you clearly have zero idea of what he means. A person can start taking small steps to improve their own condition. The road to recovery can be taken by small steps first.

            Why do you feel so intimidated by Peterson? I’d wager you are too comfortable with virtue signaling & the politics of the aggrieved.

            Life is too short Elrond to feel bitter and resentful all the time. You need to let go of the past.

            Let go, Elrond 🙂

    • Tate March 24, 2018 at 3:15 pm #

      It’s not known how many of those professional misconduct records involve the ‘vibrant enricher’ category. We do know that Muslims have a stereotypical view of white women as sexually promiscuous. Again, we don’t know how prevalent are these attitudes among the professional class, but the numbers cannot be insignificant. Medical professional or not immigrants cannot be immune to their own cultural mores and attitudes.

      • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 3:42 pm #

        “We do know that Muslims have a stereotypical view of white women as sexually promiscuous.”

        Here’s our most famous professional misconduct chappy. He had a stereotypical view of elderly ladies as generally having some money in the bank that he could make better use of.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman

        And he’s just so, er… white. No wonder they trusted him with their lives, eh?

        Fortunately we can be fairly sure these attitudes aren’t too prevalent among the professional medical class, who are mostly just trying to get home at a reasonable time a few days a week to see their families.

        “Again, we don’t know how prevalent are these attitudes among the professional class, but the numbers cannot be insignificant. ”

        Why can’t they? Do you have some, you know, actual evidence?

        You are aware, I presume, that some of these Muslims of the professional class even have – shock, horror – white wives?

        • Tate March 24, 2018 at 7:22 pm #

          As you informed me recently, this is an anecdote, nothing more. At least my anecdote revealed a huge conspiracy of silence among hundreds of people in the sci-fi fandom set whereas yours involves one individual operating in secrecy.

          Not only are the 3rd world immigrant doctors prone to sexually abuse their patients, but they are also prone to defrauding the government.

          vdare.com/articles/why-does-america-tolerate-indian-american-medical-fraud

          • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 8:25 pm #

            You still haven’t offered me any actual evidence that the numbers of professional people with ‘these attitudes’ is significant. I’ve tried to google physician abuse of patients and what’s coming up is articles like this:

            nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1514939

            “Dealing with Racist Patients”
            (New England Journal of Medicine)

            theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/14/racism-is-the-elephant-in-the-hospital-room-but-what-can-d…

            “Racism is the elephant in the hospital room: it’s time we confronted it.

            “We rely heavily on foreign doctors in our health system. The casual and overt racism they experience needs to be confronted and resolved” (Guardian)

            statnews.com/2017/10/18/patient-prejudice-wounds-doctors/

            “Asian-American physicians reported being demeaned with longstanding cultural and racist stereotypes, and female doctors being sexually harassed by patients during physical exams.”

            I came across one report on physician abuse, but there was no mention of race.

            After that I gave up, as the subsequent websites were offering porn videos. Seems there’s a lot of fantasising about doctors out there.

          • Tate March 24, 2018 at 9:39 pm #

            Yes, unfortunately, you won’t find much by googling this topic. Likewise, youtube. Their scrubbing teams with their scrubbing software have clearly been busy beavers. They have honed their craft at this stage such that most of the un-PC content has been removed (another good argument to “de-platform” the de-platformers.)

            But I did find a survey of Muslim attitudes in the UK. It is possible to interpolate from the broader body of Muslims what the medical professionals among them might be thinking. What, they are immune from the opinions of their community?

            gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

            “Phillips wrote that the poll reveals ‘the unacknowledged creation of a nation within the nation, with its own geography, its own values and its own very separate future.’ He added: ‘I thought Europe’s Muslims would gradually blend into the landscape. I should have known better.'”

            You might be asking, ‘How does this relate to Muslim abuse of patients?’ Well, in a nutshell, when you disrespect the host population, and you don’t consider yourself part of that population, you’re more likely to commit such acts.

            Another survey in Austria revealed similar attitudes:

            breitbart.com/london/2018/01/18/study-muslim-migrants-medieval-attitudes-jews-gays-women-infidels/

            “Taqiyya is a form religiously-sanctioned deception which allows Muslims to lie about their beliefs in the service of a greater cause or to avoid “persecution”, without the threat of punishment in the afterlife.

            Indeed, a Bosnian migrant who ran down and killed four people in Graz in 2015, including a small child, was found to have lied about being a Christian, when he was really a devout Muslim who attended mosque six times a week.”

            Here we see the role of ‘Taqiyya’ i.e., tactical deception, in order to advance the Jihad. I could continue, but I will stop here.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 4:51 am #

            “Yes, unfortunately, you won’t find much by googling this topic. Likewise, youtube. Their scrubbing teams with their scrubbing software have clearly been busy beavers.”

            Ah, of course 🙂 .

            “It is possible to interpolate from the broader body of Muslims what the medical professionals among them might be thinking.”

            No it isn’t, unless you have a survey of the attitudes of medical professionals in that community. You are happy to believe that homegrown white people have different attitudes depending on social and educational factors, but not Muslims. That’s odd.

            And an article from Breitbart showing that Muslims don’t respect Jews, gays and women? Breitbart?? Maybe you should have a closer look at the comments on this site about Jews, gays and women. Always best to clean up one’s own backyard first.

        • elysianfield March 25, 2018 at 1:11 pm #

          ” Seems there’s a lot of fantasising about doctors out there.”

          Alba,
          A gal can dream, can’t she?

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 2:02 pm #

            Well I did think Ben Casey was a bit of all right when I was in my teens, elysianfield (Dr Kildare didn’t quite cut the mustard), but that was a while ago. I don’t pay much attention to dreamy doctors these days. I’m OK with reality and what fate threw my way.

            TBH I suspect the sources I saw listed in my Google search are probably far outweighed in other lists by nurses – or maybe that’s a British thing. 🙂

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 4:38 pm #

            PS the first one promised a ‘busty Japanese doctor’ assaulting a patient in a coma, so I don’t think it was for the gals. Maybe for someone who’s likes a dominatrix in scrubs 🙂

            Not a part of the web I go near myself.

    • thwack March 24, 2018 at 5:05 pm #

      Is Peterson still beating his wife?

    • Sean Coleman March 25, 2018 at 4:15 pm #

      It says (or I think it says) in the article that Peterson said he had long given up that practice. I don’t know what “appropriate client communications” means but whatever it is it doesn’t reflect well on the author of the words. A lot of psychologists comment in the public forum; some have made long distance (remote viewing?) diagnoses of narcissism for Donald Trump.

      I happened to watch a few of Peterson’s videos recently, or bits of them to be honest, because they kept appearing in YT recommendations. I wasn’t that impressed to start with but I got to like him when he responded to some attention-seeking students who disrupted a talk by him by describing them as narcissist who should be ashamed of themselves. I also noted his interest in Carl Jung, who he perceptively describes as incredibly intelligent. I have my differences (he is an extravert with the type’s own strengths and limitations) but I will continue to dip in to his videos now and then. I don’t agree with what seems to be his biological determinist views that all behaviour is based on the brain (that is, if I understood them correctly). I am more persuaded by Rupert Sheldrake. I have to be honest, I admire and like him,

  38. Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

    amren.com/news/2018/03/is-your-spin-class-too-young-too-thin-and-too-white/

    Yes! Yes! I admit it. It is hideously White! How do we change this? Are we going to have close these classes? Force feed svelte young hotties with lard and cakes of all kinds? Make them check in weekly to makes sure they are “gaining”. Anything, we’ll do anything, just name it. The Yoga Industrial Complex must be dismantled!

  39. Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

    The Maryland school shooter was White but the incident has been almost completely ignored. Why? Because it disrupts the narrative: an armed guard took him down in less than a minute. Thus my hypothesis in strengthened: The Children’s Crusade has nothing to do with school safety but rather is all about limiting and ultimately abolishing the 2nd Amendment.

  40. Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 3:02 pm #

    redice.tv/red-ice-tv/faith-goldys-anti-immigration-speech-shut-down-by-hysterical-neo-marxist-mob

    The beautiful Faith Goldy is interviewed by the beautiful Lana Lotkef. We’re starting to get the hot women. We’re starting to win. You can keep your fat, tattooed, gender queer sjw skanks.

    • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 3:11 pm #

      “We’re starting to get the hot women.”

      How near to them are you getting, Janos? Have they turned their beautiful, discriminating eyes on you yet? The readership deserves to know.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 3:52 pm #

        A mean and meaningless aside. Stay on point – unless you admit slander and hysteria are all you have.

        • GreenAlba March 24, 2018 at 8:26 pm #

          It was a rather tame response to your disgusting ‘You can keep your fat, tattooed, gender queer sjw skanks.’

          Your lack of insight is awesome.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 9:42 pm #

            Yeah, but I am wrong? Do you think the average Anglo-American woman is in good shape physically? And if I see something disgusting, how is it my fault? Or how does seeing something disgusting and mentioning it, make me disgusting?

            Look at some old photos from the mid 20th Century: the transformation downwards has been astonishing.

            It must be amazing to be you and to know so much that isn’t true, often the very opposite of the Truth. Kind of like living in a photographic negative.

            redice.tv/news/mainstream-swedish-news-paper-practically-every-gang-rape-is-done-by-men-with-migrant…

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 4:57 am #

            You think women who don’t appeal to your specific aesthetic should be called ‘skanks’? Really?

            snopes.com/fact-check/crime-sweden-rape-capital-europe/

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 6:10 am #

            PS obesity is a problem everywhere in the western world – and increasingly in large parts of India and China, where there has been an infiltration of the western diet. Increasing use of refined white rice is also considered to be a factor (as it is in the huge increase in Type 2 diabetes in those countries).

            However, in the UK, which suffers from the same problems, there are actually more obese men than women.

            Remind me, what’s the best male equivalent of ‘skank’? It has to give the full flavour of disgust that you mentioned, with a bit of sexism thrown in, to be equivalent.

            And the initial issue remains – if you talk like a boor, why would you feel put out by a bit of unboorish light sarcasm about your desirability to beautiful women?

          • akmofo March 25, 2018 at 9:17 am #

            “PS obesity is a problem everywhere in the western world” – GreenAlba

            ==

            And what do our esteemed MD pharma quacks do about it? They promote it!

            They and their associations are in bed with the people that cause this disease. They are criminal co-conspirators!

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 10:28 am #

            akmofo

            The people who promote obesity are, by and large, food manufacturers and advertisers. I fully agree that many, many people are easily attracted to addictive sugary or fatty foods. And for poor people, junk is, sadly, often cheaper than wholesome food.

            I am well aware of the good and bad sides of the pharma industry (yes it has a good side too, as anyone in the past wearing calipers after a bout of polio would have told you, once the polio vaccine was available).

            My younger daughter got pneumonia at the age of three months while we were visiting my mother for Xmas. She stopped feeding. Fifty years previously, she would just have died.

            It’s perfectly possible to be aware of the bad side of the pharma industry without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And you shouldn’t assume all doctors are the same in all systems. My husband fell out with a good friend in Ireland because the friend (who was in private practice – there’s no NHS in Ireland) was all for prescribing statins right, left and centre and my husband is innately against pharma-inspired over-prescribing (and pharma-inspired over-screening).

            There is no financial incentive for an NHS doctor to prescribe any particular drug. And half they trouble the have is in persuading people demanding antibiotics that they’re not justified. That can lead to a formal complaint by a patient that will take up 3 hours of your unpaid time to follow up.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 10:31 am #

            *half the trouble they have…*

          • akmofo March 25, 2018 at 11:07 am #

            What are the financial incentives for MDs to condemn the pharma-poison doctrine and their corrupt medical associations? What are the professional consequences of even talking about alternatives to the synthetic lab-made never before seen in the world molecules to address chronic disease? Chronic disease that is itself created and promoted by the gov mafia Standard American Diet with the approval of the American Medical Association.

            You are not being candid on this. And you are not being candid with yourself. MDs are self-serving criminal co-conspirators to the gov mafia created mass misinformation campaigns mass disease and mass death.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 11:27 am #

            “MDs are self-serving criminal co-conspirators to the gov mafia created mass misinformation campaigns mass disease and mass death.”

            You make yourself ridiculous and show the mania of the self-appointed messiah. And without addressing any of the points I made. People who carry on like that rarely have any actual knowledge.

            And you seem fixated with how things are done in the US.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 2:30 pm #

            The female body is more important as per sex and marriage. Not fair? But it’s the way it is. Women are attracted first and foremost by money and power. With men, it’s looks which telegraph fertility.

            A Women’s wealth is her beauty.
            A Man’s beauty is his wealth.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 3:20 pm #

            “A Women’s wealth is her beauty.
            A Man’s beauty is his wealth.”

            Just as well I’m not blinded by that kind of male beauty then, or I’d have dumped my future husband when he lost everything he had, instead of welcoming him into my home with just the clothes he stood up in.

            You still haven’t given me a decent male equivalent of ‘skank’ with all its semantic nuances.

      • thwack March 24, 2018 at 8:31 pm #

        “We’re starting to get the hot women.”

        ******************

        lol

        but check out the hot men these women are getting:

        youtube.com/watch?v=R5W9YjRrJrI

        None of these guys lift; they all look like they’ve spent too much time in moms basement, covered in Cheeto dust… the only handsome guy there is Greg Johnson and he’s a faggot.

        This is why we lose.

        • capt spaulding March 25, 2018 at 10:32 am #

          “Covered in Cheeto dust.”, What a wonderful turn of phrase, and it provokes a hilarious image.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

            Your boy Mueller is scum. Yet you thought he was the second coming. Now that is funny.

  41. Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 3:47 pm #

    I think that at this point we should not get bogged down in the details of all this. There is a forest behind these trees. What matters most now, is that the most powerful factions of the AngloZionist Empire’s ruling elites are making a concerted effort to create a unified anti-Russian coalition. In this regard it is quite telling that the US, France, and Germany issued a statement on March 15th without even bothering to consult with their so-called “allies” in NATO or the EU. You can immediately tell “who is boss” in those crisis situations when the rest of the Euro-riffraff simply doesn’t matter (poor East Europeans with their delusions about being appreciated or even respected by the West!). Furthermore, it is quite clear that in this case, the “Anglo” component of the AngloZionist Empire is far more involved than the Zionist one, at least insofar as the front of the stage is concerned (behind the scenes the Neocons are seething at Trump for calling Putin to congratulate him and offer negotiations). I think that a number of crucial developments forced the US and the UK into trying to strong-arm the rest of the western nations to “circle the wagons” around the Empire:
    1.The US humiliatingly failed in its attempts to frighten and force the DPRK into submission
    2.The AngloZionists have lost the civil war in Syria
    3.The UK and the rest of the NATO are becoming militarily irrelevant
    4.The Ukraine has crashed and is burning and a Ukronazi attack on the Donbass is most likely
    5.The political forces in Europe who opposed anti-Russian policies are on the ascent
    6.The Russians are winning many EU countries over by economic means including North Stream whereas sanctions are hurting the EU much more than Russia
    7.The anti-Putin campaign has miserably failed and Russia is fully united in her stance against the Empire

    JS: My Druges and mein Neggers (men of Earth, low German): Support this great Man against the Global Slave Masters who want to replace you with Brown and Black savages. I was planning to cast of this body at the Joshimah, the Ice Caves and Glacier that are the source of the Ganges above Hardwar, in a few more years. But if the price of White survival is to die by a Russian nuclear missile, that is fine too. It will be an Honor!

    • Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 3:51 pm #

      Read the whole thing. There are many confirming hyper links. The Russians expect the Anglo-Zionists to stage another chemical false flag attack in Syria in the near future. But Russia is not going to back down and that may well begin WW3 unless the Zio Crazies are willing to. That’s less likely now that the maniac Bolton has been placed in power by a treasonous Trump.

      unz.com/tsaker/a-truly-historical-month-for-the-future-of-our-planet/

  42. JohnAZ March 24, 2018 at 4:01 pm #

    Opinions, anyone? Just watched news report that said Congress is considering regulating Facebook to stop the politicizing posts and data mining of personal data. Aren’t our national communications and electioneering supposed to be free? Doesn’t freedom mean that Russia or China have the right to feed info into our national communications just as much as they want? They are so far ahead of us in manipulating the internet, maybe our reaction is panicky.

    Anyway, who has the right to data mine social sites? If the Feds try to limit access, to whom? And if they can stop data mining, the financial support for social media, advertisers, disappears. After all, aren’t foreign powers just another advertiser in our elections.

    Please just concentrate on keeping the internet away from our voting machines. The consequence of hacking here is the destruction of legitimate election results. And our democracy. Back to paper if need be.

    Watched Russia’s rigged election videos. Before the press et al casts stones in their direction, they better take a good look in the mirror.

    • pequiste March 24, 2018 at 5:47 pm #

      A chap named A.J. Liebling had a gimlet eye’s insight into the freedom of the press discussion way back in an article in The New Yoker Magazine circa 1960; “Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one.”

      In today’s Technopolist, hyper-Capitalist, media landscape, only a handful of powerful corporations and Evil Fuckers control the message. If you are silly enough to even question that apodictic fact, please go back to watching your big TeeVee sports, internet porn, and video games.

      That Fakebook hasn’t been shut down for data mining – stealing personal information for the purpose of making tens of BILLIONS of dollars – from children under the age of majority, without their knowledge and consent; hosting various nefarious operations to “influence” elections and other assorted naughty activities; as well as facilitating, if not being a direct contributor and accessory to Urban riots, and probably also terrorist actions…..among other God-knows-what.

      Are elections manipulated and fixed? The New York Times never looks to influence any elections do they? Of course they do, that is their job – influence peddling and selling ads. Same for anything else that gets paid for clicks, eyeball views and other such-same behaviors. FOreign governments do the same thing with more than the just above-board methods. The U.S.S.A. has a splendid record in diverse places in influencing elections and when not happy with the result going full out to install selected politicians. I need not remind any CFNer of the countries we have been proud to help and still are in the process of looking to “fix”.

      So please get with the program JohnAZ; If voting actually mattered it would be against the law.

      • JohnAZ March 24, 2018 at 8:25 pm #

        Pequiste

        We do not disagree on anything. I admit I had a ray of hope, and I still do, that Trump’s election was going to send a deep shiver into the Deep States spine. Not so much so far! What he overcame to get elected was ginormous, but I detect he is being absorbed like so many before him. My faith in the vote is declining as I see how ineffectual the populist movement has become. I can remember a time when the vote did matter, it sickens me to see what we have deteriorated to. You are right re the social media contributing to the evil in the world, remember what happened in Egypt due to our meddling with the Arab Spring.

        1.3 trillion omnibus budget is such a sellout of the populist group, it is a slap in the face. And here is the rub, vote down the GOP in response this fall and what do you get? California!

        • pequiste March 24, 2018 at 8:49 pm #

          Yeah everyone in high office eventually gets the substance, meanings and the desired behaviors and ideations of Zapruder Therapy TM. (even if it takes a daily showing in the basement of the White House.)

    • tucsonspur March 24, 2018 at 6:23 pm #

      Two sided coin, slippery slope, freedom vs. security arguments enter here as usual.

      Yes, knowledge about and consent to what’s going on are key.

      “Doesn’t freedom mean that Russia or China have the right to feed info into our national communications just as much as they want?”

      Absolutely not, if it’s done fraudulently. And under fraudulent circumstances they are not simply “advertisers in our election”.
      Far from it.

      Facebook, Faceshnook.

      • JohnAZ March 24, 2018 at 7:41 pm #

        Fellow Arizonan-

        My question is addressing what you said, fraudulence is bogus. However, define fraudulent. I think that is what Congress is going to try to do. Then what? Censorship? By this lovely government!

  43. JohnAZ March 24, 2018 at 4:07 pm #

    Another thought.

    I do think that Russia preferred Trump in 2016 and may have “loaded” the internet with info to encourage support for him. Maybe the reason why has to do with the fact that Putin and therefore Russia is nationalistic and hates the Soros globalists. I can see Russia wanting Brexit and Trump rather tha George Soros soldiers like HRC and Obama. Strange bedfellows?

  44. tucsonspur March 24, 2018 at 6:43 pm #

    Check out “Killer Mike”, and the separate Facebook association to the right.

    yahoo.com/entertainment/run-jewels-apos-killer-mike-210940921.html

  45. akmofo March 24, 2018 at 6:43 pm #

    The Shelter on the Trail of Life
    youtu.be/2WsbwbfAS_E

  46. BackRowHeckler March 24, 2018 at 7:59 pm #

    Looks like there’s a mass movement afoot to rescind the 2nd amendment and ban the private possession of firearms. With 300 million guns extant in the US including 15 million AR type weapons, I wonder, in a practical sense, how it will all go down. It will fall most likely to the local police to disarm the population. There might be resistance from some quarters, bloody resistance.

    I’m curious if it will be just the ‘little people’ who will have to give them up, or will, say, Mike Bloomberg’s 17 man armed security detail have to go unarmed too. I understand the big Hollywood celebs surround themselves with with armed security details as well. What is there future?

    brh

    • thwack March 24, 2018 at 8:21 pm #

      My suspicion is that if a federal gun ban is ever enacted, local authorities will simply deputized large segments of the population so current legal gun owners can legally keep their firearms.

      OR

      The definition of “well regulated militia” will be expanded to include people who barbecue, fish, hunt, play sports together…

      The average legal gun owner is far more responsible and restrained than any police officer.

      • BackRowHeckler March 24, 2018 at 8:37 pm #

        Good points, Thwack.

        When you’re showing your serious face you’ve got some real insight into some of these issues.

        brh

        • Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 9:50 pm #

          That’s his White half. He’s like that pastry, the half and half. Also the half and half aliens in the old Star Trek episode who hate each other because their colors are reversed. One of them calls Kirk “mono-tone trash”.

          • thwack March 24, 2018 at 10:34 pm #

            Janos,

            Im greater than the sum of my parts; after all, thats why you hate me, right?

            BTW,

            who among you is an artists of some sort?

            Is it just JHK and me?

            In 6th grade my parents told me I could pick an instrument to play in the school band. I chose the flute without any prompting or hesitation, but my dad vetoed it because in his mind, only faggots played flute.

            I didn’t even know what a faggot was?

            I think I could have been a really good flute player because it was probably my “spirit instrument”

            or

            in the words of Jake Lamata:

            “I coulda been a contendah”

            Instead Im a shitty guitarist; that compensates with monkey shine.

            youtube.com/watch?v=F9Dd4UGt5rg

          • Janos Skorenzy March 24, 2018 at 11:56 pm #

            Justice is giving each his due and putting each in their place. You are out of place. And that gets in the way of Whites getting their due since we have to pretend you people are equal and thus end up giving you fake degrees that you haven’t really earned.

            I will not hate you once you are back in your place: Africa.

          • thwack March 25, 2018 at 11:05 am #

            OK, but that means if I go to Africa, you hafta stay OUT of Africa?

            That means you can’t have knowledge of any “going ons” in Africa?

            You can’t even have satellites flying over Africa taking photos and collecting data?

            In other words, if you want separation, it has to be REAL separation, or none at all.

            Can you do that?

          • elysianfield March 25, 2018 at 1:24 pm #

            ““I coulda been a contendah”

            Thwack,
            Jake Lamotta did not utter that phrase…it was opined by Marlon Brando’s character in “On the Waterfront”…If you were black, you would know this….

      • K-Dog March 24, 2018 at 9:50 pm #

        All we really have to do is require membership in a well regulated militia in the first place. A well regulated militia will disarm their own nut-ball members or kick them out and the rest of us don’t have to do a damn thing.

        All we have to do is define what a well regulated militia is and provide a small financial incentive for militias to adopt the rules of being well regulated. Regular meetings would be part of the rules obviously. That by itself would cull many crazies out since making meetings when you are crazy is hard to do.

        Having a small number of people who are non-compliant and disarming them is far easier than disarming the whole population and I do not advocate disarming the general population. Disarming people who are non-compliant would also not be so difficult if disarmed people also had the right to appeal and demonstrate good behavior to get their gun rights back.

        At the end of the day people would still have their guns but after a few years of responsible gun ownership there would not be any more school shooters because another rule of a well regulated militia would be that all members have to secure their firearms in such a way so that nut-ball acquaintances and relatives can’t get their paws on them or their ammo.

        I realize of course that my proposal being logical and sound has zero chance of being implemented for exactly that reason. Membership in a militia is antithetical to being a ‘lone wolf’ as those who perpetrate school shootings are. I doubt any of our school shooters would have been able to get along with and maintain the expectations of a well regulated militia which would have expected standards of behavior and participation from them for any significant length of time.

        • beantownbill. March 24, 2018 at 10:17 pm #

          The whole gun control issue is ludicrous. If America was totally disarmed, a smart nutcase would just construct a home made bomb. It could be a nail bomb, a chemical bomb or a biological bomb. It wouldn’t have to be very big, just big enough to place just outside a classroom. Boom! More than 17 killed at once.

          One could almost say that guns being legal actually cuts down the number of deaths because it’s far easier and safer to get and load an assault rifle or handgun than painstakingly putting together a bomb which would probably be a more effective killing weapon.

          • BackRowHeckler March 24, 2018 at 10:38 pm #

            Bill,

            Columbine was actually planned out as a bomb attack. Klebold and Harris made about 200 small grenades they called ‘crickets’, and a half dozen large bombs using acetyline welding tanks packed with black powder, which they placed around the school. The guns they had were relatively simple sawed off double barrel shotguns, which they deployed when many of the bombs failed to detonate.

            In the school massacre in Bath, Michigan on May 15, 1927, a board of ed member wired the whole school with dynamite and set it off with school in session. Many were killed in the blast, and he shot survivors as they ran out of the destroyed building with a .38 revolver. 48 dead.

            If there’s a will there’s a way.

            Bill, what is the big march today in DC and around the country today all about then, in your opinion?

            brh

          • K-Dog March 24, 2018 at 10:51 pm #

            I don’t see it that way. It takes time and dedication to make a bomb and scattered mentally unstable people have a hard time focusing on such a task. Smart and nut-case are contradictions because the voices in a nut-case head make it hard to concentrate and be smart at the same time.

            Grabbing a gun, loading it and then shooting it is orders of magnitude easier than making a bomb and allows for the raw expression of emotion. A bomb requires deliberation and planning and is not conducive to the expression of raw emotion. Until such time as they can be bought mass produced like guns anyway.

            I also do not see a bomb as being a more effective weapon. The Austin bomber only killed two. Mass shooters almost always have more victims. A novice building a bomb is not going to be very good or experienced at it while guns have been refined for centuries. You said ‘painstakingly putting together a bomb’ demonstrating that the gun control issue is not ludicrous at all. You actually made my point. The more painstaking mass murder can be made to be the better, because the more painstaking it is made to be the less likely it is to happen.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 5:03 am #

            ” A novice building a bomb is not going to be very good or experienced at it … ”

            And very occasionally, they even manage to blow themselves up in the process. Which elicits no sympathy whatsoever in the sensible.

        • elysianfield March 25, 2018 at 1:28 pm #

          ” A well regulated militia will disarm their own nut-ball members or kick them out and the rest of us don’t have to do a damn thing. ”

          Dog,
          Just like Pomeranians do to Pit-Bulls?

      • JohnAZ March 24, 2018 at 9:59 pm #

        Thwack

        I think about the huge change in the role of the Cop. Cops used to rise out of a community to become the “law and order” of their local group. They were trained to help folks and avoid gun play at all cost, sometimes their own lives. Shoot last and only under duress.

        What a change! Today Cops are mercenaries hired into a community. No allegiances. No emotional attachment. They are armed to the teeth by leftovers from the Federal military. They are trained to shoot to kill any perceived threat, not necessarily mortal. Their charter from management is protection of the elite, first and foremost. Their alienation from the community is what is leading the deterioration of law enforcement everywhere.

        I do believe that the police separate us from social breakdown. Unfortunately, the way politics and police departments have distorted the role of the cop, has destroyed the trust society feels toward their law enforcers. Hence, BLM erupts onto the scene. And if things do not improve, disorder, first in the cities, then spreading out will just get worse. Politics needs to be removed from all law enforcement, period. Right now, it is rotten with it.

        • elysianfield March 25, 2018 at 1:30 pm #

          “What a change! Today Cops are mercenaries hired into a community. No allegiances. No emotional attachment”

          John,
          You paint with a very wide brush….

  47. JohnAZ March 24, 2018 at 8:06 pm #

    The stock market is puking hundreds of points, not surprising. Why? Because aside from the tax changes, Trump has accomplished little contrary to the propaganda. Relaxed regulation has helped raise the optimism in 2017 but “what have you done for me lately” is what the market is asking. Reality has hit and things are returning to normal. It is still up since his election but now more realistically to what is been accomplished. I am a Deplorable but he has run into a hornets nest that I think he underestimated. The market should bottom out then return to its normal slow appreciation. And remember it is a six month out forecaster.

    • beantownbill. March 24, 2018 at 10:33 pm #

      The markets are manipulated by those organizations that do large-scale, near-instantaneous computer trading. The small guy doesn’t have a chance.

      I find it odd that hackers have yet to insert a large sell order into a company’s trading platform. It seems many trading algorithms follow each other, so a well-timed hack could set off a market collapse.

      • JohnAZ March 25, 2018 at 9:43 am #

        Maybe the hackers all own stock!

  48. FincaInTheMountains March 24, 2018 at 8:37 pm #

    The Russians expect the Anglo-Zionists to stage another chemical false flag attack in Syria in the near future. == Janos

    Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation: this time we are going to sink American ships

    On March 13, General Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, in his briefing said:

    We have reliable information about the preparation by the militants in Syria to stage chemical attacks on civilians.

    For this purpose, in several areas of Eastern Ghouta, crowd of women, old men and children to be depicted as victims of a chemical attack are gathered. The activists of the group “White helmets” and filming crews with satellite equipment are there already.

    In retaliation, Washington plans to launch a missile-bomb strike on the government quarters of Damascus, where are many representatives of the armed forces of the Russian Federation.

    In case of a direct threat to Russian servicemen, the Russian troops will take retaliatory measures both against the missiles and against the carriers that have launched them.

    Another close call?

    On March 13, Hillary Clinton collapses in Mumbai, India and Trump re-shuffles his National security apparatus, removing Tillerson and McMaster.

    I still believe that people mistakenly think that appointment of John Bolton signaling the more aggressive stance of the US, quite the opposite – it rather signifies the ease of tensions and possible beginning of negotiations of controlling the strategic weapons systems.

  49. K-Dog March 24, 2018 at 10:33 pm #

    But how fast will we unspool?

    Dear Sir:

    I’m writing to urge you to consider blocking in committee the nomination of John Bolton as ambassador to the UN.

    In the late summer of 1994, I worked as the subcontracted leader of a US AID project in Kyrgyzstan officially awarded to a HUB primary contractor. My own employer was Black, Manafort, Stone & Kelly, and I reported directly to Republican leader Charlie Black.

    After months of incompetence, poor contract performance, inadequate in-country funding, and a general lack of interest or support in our work from the prime contractor, I was forced to make US AID officials aware of the prime contractor’s poor performance.

    I flew from Kyrgyzstan to Moscow to meet with other Black Manafort employees who were leading or subcontracted to other US AID projects. While there, I met with US AID officials and expressed my concerns about the project — chief among them, the prime contractor’s inability to keep enough cash in country to allow us to pay bills, which directly resulted in armed threats by Kyrgyz contractors to me and my staff.

    Within hours of sending a letter to US AID officials outlining my concerns, I met John Bolton, whom the prime contractor hired as legal counsel to represent them to US AID. And, so, within hours of dispatching that letter, my hell began.

    Mr. Bolton proceeded to chase me through the halls of a Russian hotel — throwing things at me, shoving threatening letters under my door and, generally, behaving like a madman. For nearly two weeks, while I awaited fresh direction from my company and from US AID, John Bolton hounded me in such an appalling way that I eventually retreated to my hotel room and stayed there. Mr. Bolton, of course, then routinely visited me there to pound on the door and shout threats.

    When US AID asked me to return to Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan in advance of assuming leadership of a project in Kazakstan, I returned to my project to find that John Bolton had proceeded me by two days. Why? To meet with every other AID team leader as well as US foreign-service officials in Bishkek, claiming that I was under investigation for misuse of funds and likely was facing jail time. As US AID can confirm, nothing was further from the truth.

    He indicated to key employees of or contractors to State that, based on his discussions with investigatory officials, I was headed for federal prison and, if they refused to cooperate with either him or the prime contractor’s replacement team leader, they, too, would find themselves the subjects of federal investigation. As a further aside, he made unconscionable comments about my weight, my wardrobe and, with a couple of team leaders, my sexuality, hinting that I was a lesbian (for the record, I’m not).

    When I resurfaced in Kyrgyzstan, I learned that he had done such a convincing job of smearing me that it took me weeks — with the direct intervention of US AID officials — to limit the damage. In fact, it was only US AID’s appoinment of me as a project leader in Almaty, Kazakstan that largely put paid to the rumors Mr. Bolton maliciously circulated.

    As a maligned whistleblower, I’ve learned firsthand the lengths Mr. Bolton will go to accomplish any goal he sets for himself. Truth flew out the window. Decency flew out the window. In his bid to smear me and promote the interests of his client, he went straight for the low road and stayed there.

    John Bolton put me through hell — and he did everything he could to intimidate, malign and threaten not just me, but anybody unwilling to go along with his version of events. His behavior back in 1994 wasn’t just unforgivable, it was pathological.

    I cannot believe that this is a man being seriously considered for any diplomatic position, let alone such a critical posting to the UN. Others you may call before your committee will be able to speak better to his stated dislike for and objection to stated UN goals. I write you to speak about the very character of the man.

    It took me years to get over Mr. Bolton’s actions in that Moscow hotel in 1994, his intensely personal attacks and his shocking attempts to malign my character.

    I urge you from the bottom of my heart to use your ability to block Mr. Bolton’s nomination in committee.

    Respectfully yours,

    Melody Townsel
    Dallas, TX 75208

    Slowly at first, than all at once. So far Trump’s unspooling has been slow. With Bolton that pace may now greatly accelerate.

    • tucsonspur March 24, 2018 at 11:42 pm #

      Here’s another take on “sweet” Melody and “Joltin'” Bolton, fourth paragraph down particularly:

      washingtontimes.com/news/2005/may/1/20050501-091514-3497r/

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 12:42 am #

        “Then there’s Melody Townsel, the USAID worker who claims Mr. Bolton chased her down a hotel corridor in Kyrgyzstan. Ms. Townsel’s chief credibility problem is that several employees with the Virginia company who worked with her and with Mr. Bolton have sent letters to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee praising Mr. Bolton’s work and describing a pattern of erratic behavior and poor job performance by Ms. Townsel that forced them to remove her from the project. “

        So lets see if we can figure this out.

        Letters don’t get written by themselves. What motivation would ‘several employees with this Virginia company’ have in writing to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee so as to badrap Melody. It takes time to write letters. Those of us here are pretty fast, we write a lot and we do it as much for fun as for anything else, but we do know it takes time and effort. We don’t write for no reason and to write a letter of praise or condemnation I absolutely do need sufficient motivation. Someone’s poor job performance is not going to do it.

        So was Bolton in a position where he might be fired and needed help? Why would Bolton need letters?

        Bolton was hired as consul for the Virginia company and the employees of that company had a vested interest in suppressing Melody’s allegations and complement Bolton for doing the exact job they hired him to do. I see the letters as supporting Melody’s position in a ‘much ado about nothing’ sort of way rather than slandering her.

        • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 1:17 am #

          “Since Amy first posted my letter, you may have read that former colleagues have stepped forward to verify its contents to the Senate regarding Mr. Bolton — and other, similar tales of his abuse appear to be surfacing daily. The fact that they’re working so hard to discredit me tells me they know that I’m right.” – Melody Townsel

        • tucsonspur March 25, 2018 at 3:45 am #

          “Then there’s Melody Townsel, the USAID worker who claims Mr. Bolton chased her down a hotel corridor in Kyrgyzstan.”

          Did he ever catch her?

          “For nearly two weeks, while I awaited fresh direction from my company and from US AID, John Bolton hounded me in such an appalling way that I eventually retreated to my hotel room and stayed there. Mr. Bolton, of course, then routinely visited me there to pound on the door and shout threats.”

          I guess she ordered in. Sounds like the usual female hysterical hyperbole. Notice the “of course”.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 9:13 am #

            Haha – love that!

            No hyperbole ever to be found here at Testosterone Central 🙂 .

          • JohnAZ March 25, 2018 at 10:27 am #

            Notice that every male that Trump associates with has some scorned woman in his past that just happens to arise when he is elected or appointed. This obvious conspiracy needs a third special prosecutor, don’t you think? Seriously, the women behind this will not be satisfied until men are all discredited. What happens consensually between two people is their and their family’s business. Just another method for elements of the Left to disrupt the country.

            It also reflects the level of crudity that porn stars and playboy products are allowed to air their dirty laundry in public with no social repugnance. Guess it shows how Kardashian we have become.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 2:18 pm #

            “What happens consensually between two people is their and their family’s business. ”

            I tend to agree with that, but…

            “It also reflects the level of crudity that porn stars and playboy products are allowed to air their dirty laundry in public with no social repugnance.”

            Social repugnance? Are you recommending a bit of Victorian hypocrisy here, for the sake of da menz, so that their fragrant and naive wives don’t get a whiff of what they get up to?

            If your country wasn’t Porn Central, you’d have fewer porn stars coming out of the woodwork.

          • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 2:46 pm #

            “Court records concerning the divorce of John R. Bolton, the Bush administration’s nominee to become the next ambassador to the United Nations, show his first wife fled the couple’s marital home when he was traveling abroad in mid-August 1982. The records further show that she took most of the couple’s furniture.

            Corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton’s first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department despite inquires posed by Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt concerning the allegations. Mr. Flynt has obtained information from numerous sources that Mr. Bolton participated in paid visits to Plato’s Retreat, the popular swingers club that operated in New York City in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

            Mr. Flynt has contacted the State Department asking that they confirm or deny the allegations of Mr. Bolton’s prior conduct concerning his wife and the alleged paid visits to Plato’s Retreat. He has also called upon the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to conduct an inquiry into the very serious evidence concerning his first wife’s fear of him.”

            That was Larry Flynt. You all know who he was.

            Would such a man chase a woman down the hallway of a hotel?

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 1:04 am #

        And we have a tweet:

        Melody Townsel Retweeted
        Glenn Greenwald
        ?Verified account @ggreenwald
        Mar 1

        Since before Trump was inaugurated, it’s been a constant media rumor that John Bolton was about to be appointed to a high-level position. Let’s hope that continues to be a myth since he’s an actual psychopath

  50. Pucker March 24, 2018 at 10:44 pm #

    Isn’t Trump recommending a woman as C,,,Ia Director who’s a Big Sadist who’s into torture? They’re all Crazy….

  51. Pucker March 24, 2018 at 10:44 pm #

    Castration…..

  52. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 1:05 am #

    Mueller participated in the framing of four innocent men to protect witnesses within the Mob after a Mob hit. They were sentenced to death, latter commuted to life in prison. Mueller kept up the effort to keep them in prison.

    “The very concept of a nation founded by European settlers is offensive to me. Old stock White Canadians are an unpleasant relic, and quite frankly, replaceable. And we will replace them.”
    – Justin Trudeau, when asked to comment on his Open Borders immigration strategy.

    This is the wrong link but it’s too important not to keep. Try to stretch you mind and accept “the god of surprises” as Anti-Pope Francis puts it.

    • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 1:54 am #

      That is an offensive statement but I am disappointed to find no reference which says exactly where and when this statement was made.

      “Asked to comment on his Open Borders immigration strategy.” is not enough for me. I want context.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 3:10 am #

        Well, yes, I agree with you. It’s seems like something he would say but this is a weak Hadith I must admit. Let’s label this file as “open”.

        • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 7:43 am #

          It looks very much like this ‘quote’ was made up.

          en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Justin_Trudeau

          I’ve also found it quoted in a couple of random tweets, again with the exact words ‘Asked to comment on his Open Borders immigration strategy.’ It may originate with this guy:

          twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/925463866804441088

          But there does not appear to be any actual reporting of the alleged initial statement by Trudeau. And the idea that it wouldn’t be all over the place if he’d actually said it is ridiculous.

          There is a YouTube clip of Trudeau being asked why he didn’t challenge Harper on his use of the term ‘old stock Canadians’, but again, absolutely no evidence of Trudeau saying anything like the comment ‘quoted’.

          youtube.com/watch?v=hCUoRpOibCo

          On the evidence so far, I call BS on Janos’ claim.

          I’m not even blaming Janos for knowingly making it up. It’s just an inevitable consequence of his approach to information and where he looks for it. He doesn’t need facts. These are his words to me under the previous post:

          “Do you want the facts or do you want the Truth? It is possible to use facts to hide the truth – you do it all the time…”

          So Janos considers himself a holder of The Truth. The Truth exists first and facts are made up afterwards to back it up. Facts that contradict his Truth have no validity for him and his Truth does not depend on facts. That must avoid a lot of mental discomfort, but it doesn’t advance the truth (which, if it’s genuine, doesn’t need capitals).

          And Canada does not appear to have an open borders strategy anyway – the most I could find was a reference to Trudeau backtracking after a bit of possible ‘virtue signalling’ suggesting anyone desperate could just waltz on in, which isn’t true and never has been, as far as I can see. Canada has always been very selective. I can remember the hoops my own father had to jump through back in the 60s when he got a couple of job offers in Canada, but eventually decided not to go because of his age and possible healthcare implications.

          Janos thinks verifying facts is ‘nitpicking’. I believe it’s important to challenge his tactics because many people reading this blog will just read the Trudeau misquote and take as true.

          “Let’s label this file as “open” is just the same tactic toned down a bit.

          • Elrond Hubbard March 25, 2018 at 10:33 am #

            GreenAlba: “Canada has always been very selective.”

            We are today, certainly. In fact, I could hardly fault many even of the more vociferous American anti-immigration commenters around here for their views, were it not that so many of their comments are laced — larded, even — with the most virulent racism and xenophobia. Without that, we could have civilized conversations and even agree on a point or too. As it is, though, pushing back against the faecal tide leaves little room for discussing the actual merits of a more stringent approach to immigration.

            GreenAlba: “Janos considers himself a holder of The Truth. The Truth exists first and facts are made up afterwards to back it up.”

            To restate it, the facts are fixed around the policy. Fifteen years ago, that approach led the US into disaster, yet now Mr. Bolton is back in the White House ready to inaugurate the next disaster. Are we all really as incapable of learning as Janos is? It seems so, sadly.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 11:11 am #

            Quite so, Elrond. The ‘faecal tide’ sums it up very well. Unlimited immigration anywhere is logically a nonsense, but they’re incapable of discussing it without the hate.

            One person on this site, responsible for a bit of the tide, appears to be a Christian and is awaiting the second coming (apparently with confidence!!) while referring to his fellow children of God as the ‘mud people’ and to their children as ‘mud rats’.

            Only in the US…

            Was Jesus a mud person too, I wonder, or do they believe the pictures they saw in Sunday school of Jesus-with-the-light-brown-hair?

          • akmofo March 25, 2018 at 1:16 pm #

            @ Elrond Hubbard

            Wait a little for your turn at european style NO GO ZONES, muzzie only condos and neighborhoods, and general muzzie persecution of their infidel neighbors. With your current Idiot immigration policies and your idiot in chief Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, you wont be waiting very long.

            Toronto city councillor says Muslim-only subsidized housing is acceptable | Globalnews.ca
            globalnews.ca/news/2187517/toronto-city-councillor-says-muslim-only-subsidized-housing-is-acceptable…

            Muslim condo complex in Thornhill sparks heated debate | Toronto Star
            thestar.com/news/gta/2014/02/05/muslim_condo_complex_in_thornhill_sparks_heated_debate.html

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 2:23 pm #

            *Wait a little for your turn at european style NO GO ZONES”

            money.cnn.com/2015/01/18/media/fox-apologizes-for-anti-islam-comments/index.html

            “Fox News apologizes 4 times for inaccurate comments about Muslims in Europe”.

            “Several of the cases involved incendiary comments about “no-go zones” in Europe, where Islamic law supposedly supersedes local law and where non-Muslims fear to go.

            “Other media outlets have accused Fox of exaggerations and falsehoods, and even British Prime Minister David Cameron mocked one of the assertions.

            “On Saturday, Fox apologized morning, noon and night.

            “Jeanine Pirro issued the final correction of the day, at 9:10 p.m., for something her guest Steve Emerson said a week earlier: that Birmingham, England is a “totally Muslim city where non-Muslims don’t go in.” Emerson was ridiculed for his comments, and he subsequently apologized.”

          • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 2:38 pm #

            Read the Tower of Babel story. We’re not supposed all live together in some kind of mud colored global village. Let real diversity reign, not the reign of mutts. Borders and Limits should be dear to everyone who loves this world and nature, since we see them everywhere IN nature. Yet the Greens (Reds) are virtually all in when it comes to mass 3rd World immigration. No limits! You simple can’t have enough Blacks and Browns, evidently. They are an UNLIMITED Good! Thus you a cornucopian. And a cornucopian, and such a one cannot be an environmentalist of any kind since the principles are opposites. Environmentalists believe everything is limited.

            I admitted the quote may not be real. When will you admit your principles are just so much political cant?

          • akmofo March 25, 2018 at 2:48 pm #

            What can I say, I hope you heal yourself with your pharma pills and that you get to see your quality of life soar with the building of a mosque near you.

          • Elrond Hubbard March 25, 2018 at 2:56 pm #

            Hmm, several things above to address. I’ll take them in order. First, did I actually write “a point or ‘too'”? Jeebus, I’m getting old. Or my brain is. *sigh*

            @GreenAlba: Jesus was a Palestinian Jew, yet in the West he’s almost always depicted as a solemn blond guy with a long, thin nose. I don’t remember who it was who sardonically labelled the whitewashed Jesus “Fabio of Nazareth“, but I would like to stand them a drink.

            @akmofo: Thanks for those links, although they are from 2014 and 2015 respectively. Got anything more up to date? Personally I wouldn’t and don’t support allowing a housing complex to discriminate on the basis of religion or ethnicity. Maybe they can promote themselves as a kind of boosterism, but it’s wrong to disallow others from living there — particularly if they have significant needs, like the young man who needed accommodations for his wheelchair.

            NB: There are no ‘no-go zones’ in Toronto, full stop. I think GreenAlba has demonstrated the idea that Europe has any is a right-wing myth as well. This has been discussed around here before.

            And finally, @Janos: Nevermind your bigotry, your final paragraph is a laugh. ‘Ooh, I admitted a fake quote is fake, therefore you have to give up your principles’? Fair exchange, huh? How gullible do you think we are?

          • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 3:00 pm #

            Elrond: are you ready to admit the Black takeover of South Africa has been a disaster or do you need more time?

            It’s hard to admit you’ve been wrong about everything, I’m sure.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 5:22 pm #

            “What can I say, I hope you heal yourself with your pharma pills and that you get to see your quality of life soar with the building of a mosque near you.”

            There’s a little mosque/Muslim community centre just round the corner from me – I pass it most days when I walk the dog. I’ve been here almost 18 years. We use ‘their’ shops too. They’re great for spices and Basmati rice a fraction of the price of the supermarkets.

          • akmofo March 25, 2018 at 8:47 pm #

            @GreenAlba

            Well then, I must be a Prophet or a Messiah after all. Seems you are enjoying your Pakistani cultural enrichment. I just wonder how long. How long it will be before you will enjoy the fate of our Middle Eastern Christians. How long before you will need a burka to step outside or volunteer for Jihadi martyrdom like the PLO Christians to placate muzzies.

            One day you will wise up, Mrs Green, but it looks like it will not be by learning from others’ mistakes.

            @Elrond Hubbard

            As far as I know, the issues have not been resolved. They are still outstanding. The large Jewish community in Thornhill is putting up a fight. They have the wherewithal to put up a fight. Others elsewhere will not be so lucky to have a large Jewish community in their neighborhood. They will be made to accept anything and everything the muzzies will see fit to impose on them.

          • GreenAlba March 26, 2018 at 3:31 am #

            “I just wonder how long. How long it will be before you will enjoy the fate of our Middle Eastern Christians. ”

            I’ve been here 18 years, akmofo, and there seem to be pretty much the same number of Muslims locally as there were 18 years ago. We also have a number of Chinese people.There are even a couple of blocks of flats not far away that I’m told house some Vietnamese ‘boat people’ from that refugee crisis long ago. Then there is always a spattering of Eastern Europeans in most places. The local Italian deli employs a couple – how confusing.

            And the English. And a lot of home-grown Scots (and some Irish). Weirdly we just all get on with living our lives. It’s a great place to live.

            I’m just old enough to remember hearing about the signs saying ‘no blacks, dogs or Irish’ on flats for rent. Thankfully things have moved on a bit since then.

          • akmofo March 26, 2018 at 8:59 am #

            The Christians were in the Levant already 2000 years ago, a good 600 years before there were any muzzies. The Christians and the Jews were the vast majority of the population. Now there are almost none.

            Once they consolidate their numbers, the muzzies will chase you out from your own home. The land will be considered “Dar al-Islam”. They will make life for you a constant humiliation intimidation confiscation terror and murder. That’s their religious and cultural doctrine. That’s their history. But you know all this, and you think you know better. That somehow it will be different this time. Einstein called this kind of behaviour insanity. I call it stupidity.

            Syrian Christians Hunted by Radical Jihadists
            youtu.be/xsIkAvtiRxQ

            These Jihadists are led by our “ally” Turkey, who is not at all shy about genociding the remaining Christians in Syria.

    • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 1:55 am #

      Do these four men have names?

    • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 3:08 am #

      Here’s the correct link:

      westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2018/03/22/trust-the-fbi/

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 4:35 am #

        You are quoting a random commenter. I don’t doubt such a thing may have happened but an accusation like this is worthless without supporting details.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

          As ever, you are without justice. Every move of your mind is political.

          • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 2:32 pm #

            If that is so how come I posted the names below?

    • Elrond Hubbard March 25, 2018 at 10:20 am #

      Well, that supposed quote from Justin Trudeau is as sadly obvious a fabrication as I have ever seen.

      Mind you, it’s not as if I voted for the guy.

      greenparty.ca/

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 2:33 pm #

        If he said it a reference would exist, you can bet on that.

  53. tucsonspur March 25, 2018 at 3:58 am #

    Here’s more on the malodorous Mueller: Grab the horsewhips and remove the hay.

    howiecarrshow.com/2018/03/22/2322/

    • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 4:50 am #

      Joe Salvati, Peter Limone, Henry Tameleo, Lou Greco.

      Thanks, Now we have the names. Looking at the article and considering what I have learned about the FBI from my own personal experience, I’m not surprised at all.

      Mueller was making his bones and his cooperation resulted in him becoming a household name. Something that would not have happened had he shown integrity and not shown he was a good old boy. Integrity would have resulted in a successful career but he would not have risen to the top.

      • beantownbill. March 25, 2018 at 10:24 am #

        This was a widely-known case – at least in Boston – that I followed closely at the time and through the years. Howie Carr’s article seems to be accurate, as I remember the story. The one thing I’m not aware of was that Mueller was the US attorney back when. To me, then, Mueller is a piece of shit who should have been disbarred. And now he is investigating a POTUS? The whole political structure of this country sucks! So much more is going on behind the scenes that we’ll never know.

        This is one of several reasons why I will never vote – until significant changes are made. The stench of corruption is so strong I can barely tolerate it.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 7:30 pm #

          Ah, Howie Carr and the Herald. I was crushed to learn this working class Philosopher lived in a ritzy suburb.

          Yes, I didn’t know about the Jews back then.

          • S M Tenneshaw March 26, 2018 at 4:53 am #

            And what you know now is just a buncha chit.

  54. akmofo March 25, 2018 at 5:37 am #

    ?CNN Selling Fake News for Turkish Dictator
    youtu.be/ZcFWLDVXytQ

  55. FincaInTheMountains March 25, 2018 at 7:52 am #

    Poisoned Russian spy wrote to Putin asking to be pardoned, friend claims

    The former Russian double agent left close to death after a nerve agent attack in Salisbury had written to President Vladimir Putin asking to be pardoned and to be allowed to visit his home country, a friend has claimed.

    Vladimir Timoshkov, a friend of Sergei Skripal, said he regretted having spied for the British and wanted to return to Russia to visit his family.

    yahoo.com/news/poisoned-russian-spy-wrote-putin-101751489.html

    Now it’s clear who used Novichock in Great Britain and who didn’t

    • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 8:10 am #

      ‘A friend has claimed’

      Excellent. The international forensic team can all go home now. 🙂

      • FincaInTheMountains March 25, 2018 at 8:38 am #

        Better yet, they could all go and perform a forensically impossible act on themselves.

        • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 9:24 am #

          Well, the UK doesn’t have many friends in the EU because of Brexit, but all 27 appear to have accepted the evidence.*

          I’d personally have much preferred the truth to be that it was a case of personal vengeance by a disgruntled Russian who hated Skripal, but there we are.That would have kept diplomatic relations out of the equation. But I don’t get to choose the truth the way you do. If the evidence changes, I’ll go with the new evidence, until it’s superseded etc. etc.

          *Naturally they will have had an ulterior motive. It’s just totally impossible that Vlad the boy scout could be involved.

        • FincaInTheMountains March 25, 2018 at 10:45 am #

          You, guys, lost this round, deal with that, don’t make asses out of yourself.

          Go back to the drawing board, reinvigorate your industries, your science and technology, your education and culture, stop poisoning the population with opioids, crappy food and crappy drugs and maybe we’ll revisit that conversation in 50 years or so.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

            “… reinvigorate your industries, your science and technology, your education and culture…”

            Sadly, Brexit has put the kybosh on that for a while. Look out for the brain drain from said areas to the EU.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

            The Elite hate Brexit and so do you. The Left does their bidding, now and always.

            Some or a relative isolation from the global market is what will stimulate creativity and local growth. How can you not see that? Localism? Hello? Think Globally but act locally? Ever hear that before? A World made by Hand? Anybody home?

          • FincaInTheMountains March 25, 2018 at 2:33 pm #

            The Orthodox England can not bow down to anti-Christian Europe and become a naval outpost of the Fourth Reich.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 2:38 pm #

            It isn’t just ‘the elite’, Janos. Scientists, researchers and the majority of businesses are against it. They’re the ones that invent stuff and provide jobs.

            “Some or a relative isolation from the global market is what will stimulate creativity and local growth. ”

            Do you know anything at all about economics? The UK has a national debt of nearly £2 trillion. How exactly are we supposed to service that ‘locally’? You may think we can all survive by selling each other cheese and home-made bicycles but your fantasies are of little help. If you default on your debts nobody lends you any more money. And without money, you don’t get ‘creativity and local growth’. Except among the local protection gangs. A World Made by Fist, you might say.

            The World made by Hand will come when it comes. I have no reason to wish to usher it in any sooner than need be. It isn’t going to be nice.

            Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, Michael Gove, Daniel Hannan, and most especially Jacob Rees-Mogg are the elite. Like Trump.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 3:05 pm #

            The scumbag bankers have to be dealt with, obviously. Hitler’s Germany did it – and even Liberal Iceland. But Britain has been owned by them for too long it seems.

            You write them a check for what you owe them and leave it to them to find someone to “cash it”. You see Alba, they make money out of thin aire. To even think of giving them real resources and sweat equity shows you haven’t understood the basics yet.

          • GreenAlba March 26, 2018 at 4:21 am #

            You seem not to have noticed my point that the leading Brexiters Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Nigel Farage (ex-commodities broker – now there’s a job that’s down with the people) and Daniel Hannan (Winchester House School; Marlborough College; Oriel College Oxford) ARE the elite.

            How did that pass you by? And how could it be?

  56. FincaInTheMountains March 25, 2018 at 8:10 am #

    Mice cried, pricked themselves, but there were only cacti on the menu

    I can not believe that there are no clever people in London who do not understand that the provocative attack in the Skripal case only added votes to Putin, but “the mice cried and pricked”, but they can not do anything with their hunger.

    It seems that the entire Western anti-Russian policy is based on the postulate “and what if?”

    However, all Russian media, even the state, are stubbornly supporting the West in this delusion. The whole point of political articles always comes down to what the West will say or think. Simply one is waiting for reaction with hope, and others are proud that the West will be upset, and this is the main advantage of Russian politics.

    The Putin’s recent speech before the Federal Assembly was a perfect example of trolling at the highest level. Either there are new secret weapons, or there aren’t, but you guys, think about it. What if there are and ready to use?

    The reaction in the West, by the way, was absolutely predictable.

    The West felt offended.

    They say “we have our doubts, but you, Russians, you bastards, publicly dare to say that you are stronger than us! And how do we behave now? To check it out in real life is scary, and any verbal rhetoric after the declaration does not mean anything in principle.”

    Russia does not need rapid radical and dramatic changes; it needs a slow gradual accumulation of strategic advantages, which in turn will inevitably lead to a natural ending.

    The resource of the West to maintain even the appearance of its own stability is very limited. Russia does not need to get into a fight and to prove something to someone.

    • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 9:47 am #

      “I can not believe that there are no clever people in London who do not understand that the provocative attack in the Skripal case only added votes to Putin”

      I’m not in London, but I’d already figured out that Putin would know in advance such an attack would only help him at home.

      Not that circumstantial evidence – either way – is ever more than that, especially when it comes to spooks, who are well versed in all the double, triple and quadruple bluffs you could ever think up. Whatever side they’re on.

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 2:27 pm #

        It would not help him at all if there was clear evidence that he was involved.

        Putin enjoys popularity in the west but that is because he has earned it by being a refined and rational human being. Putin knows he well received by the intelligent in the west, those who understand the operation of the propaganda machine, but he also knows he will loose all that support if he starts poisoning people. I do not believe Putin to be stupid enough to have had the Skripal’s poisoned. There is nothing to have been gained and much to lose. Putin is Russia, that is how he sees himself. He will do whatever is in the best interests of Russia and killing the Skripals does not help Russia out much and it risks huge backlash.

        The truth behind the poisonings seems to have been provided by the people who did it. Craig Murray posted about how it was impossible for the poison to be identified as ‘novichok’. It is not even clear that such poison exists but it was identified likkity-split and that was impossible. For that Craig received a denial of service attack from multiple foreign locations of several million hits.

        Apparently the decision was made that the number of people who would figure things out was not as important as suppressing the ‘mistake’ of not identifying a poison which actually exists. Identifying the actual poison used would not have nailed down a Russian connection as well as they liked so they lied.

        Not being able to effectively shut Craig down is further evidence of people with way to much power being full of themselves.

        craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/the-novichok-story-is-indeed-another-iraqi-wmd-scam/

        • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 2:53 pm #

          On 18th March, later than that article:

          gov.uk/government/news/investigators-from-chemical-weapons-watchdog-to-arrive-in-uk

          “Independent technical experts from chemical weapons watchdog (OPCW) to arrive in UK following the incident in Salisbury,”

          “the chemical was positively identified by world-leading experts at the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down, which is one of the accredited and designated labs in the OPCW laboratory network.”

          If the OPCW has now said the experts at Porton Down were wrong, I’m happy to accept that.

          • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 5:24 pm #

            Has it?

    • JohnAZ March 25, 2018 at 10:13 am #

      A question.

      The allies, after Japan an Germany were defeated, led by the US, took no vengeance against the two countries. Instead, we reconstructed them economically, and politically and they both became solid allies.

      The USSR capitulated in the 90 ‘s and broke up. Instead of following up with help to reconstruct Russia, the allies continued the policy of isolation toward Russia that has made them psycho for centuries. And what happened, we bred Putin. A good opportunity squelched by anti-Russian left overs from the Cold War. Hitler as a result of Germany’s defeat in WW1 is a similar situation to Putin from The Soviet breakup. I seem to remember that we made an overture of help to Russia that was quickly squelched. Would the world be a different place if we had built bridges to Russia instead of walls?

      • FincaInTheMountains March 25, 2018 at 10:51 am #

        See my post above: kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-unspooling/#comment-344588

        And believe me, I know a lot of bad things about the US, but the administration of George Bush Sr. was well aware that this was a recipe for the Versailles peace, not for the Marshall plan. And George Bush Sr really wanted to direct the events in a different direction, and from purely pragmatic considerations, knowing full well that the result of the Versailles World 2.0 will be the same for the West as last time. By the way, all of these accusations of Putin in a resemblance to Hitler are connected precisely with the events planned in the distant 1991 and it was Hitler 2.0 that they have been waiting for since that time.

      • FincaInTheMountains March 25, 2018 at 11:07 am #

        Most of all I am pleased with the sobriety of the Russian citizens and their ability to clearly understand their personal experience and experience of Russia over the past 25 years.

        And to formulate conclusions from this experience.

        And the poor Americans, for all their positivity, clearly do not know the fable about the road paved with good intentions.

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 2:02 pm #

        The problem is Britain. They want us to play their ‘Great Game’ with them.

        thoughtco.com/what-was-the-great-game-195341

        America still wants to make daddy happy. The argument that the game stopped a hundred years ago neglects to account for the perennial petrified attitudes about Russia which were formed then and which still continue to shape relations. Memes which blossom in the fertile earth of an empty mind.

        Keeping Russia land-locked in Europe was a great game meme and like an obedient son, once Britain gave us their empire for payment after WWII we started hating on Russia just as they wished us to do.

        The Russo-Anglo alliance in WWI and II was necessary but you can bet Britain did not like having to play nice with who they saw and still see as competition. Progress meant that we were able to acquire the British Empire without having to occupy and claim any actual territory with guns and men. The conquest was all economic, but changing how the countries were occupied did not change who the traditional enemies of the occupation were. The game goes on.

        • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 2:07 pm #

          Keeping Russia land-locked so they are not competition is the meme and not just in Europe as I wrote.

        • GreenAlba March 25, 2018 at 3:01 pm #

          “The argument that the game stopped a hundred years ago neglects to account for the perennial petrified attitudes about Russia which were formed then and which still continue to shape relations. Memes which blossom in the fertile earth of an empty mind.”

          The UK and Russia (the people, that is) enjoy excellent ties of friendship and cultural exchange. People do not go around petrified of Russia. They don’t particularly like it when Putin’s rivals or critics get bumped off (within Russia), but that’s not the Russian people.

          “America still wants to make daddy happy. ”

          Strange that it looks like that from your perspective. From here the ‘special relationship’ is something that Tories (and Tony Blair) wheel out to persuade themselves that the UK still matters to the US, which I doubt very much that it does to any great degree. It looks like hanging on to America’s coat tails to many people.

          • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 3:09 pm #

            The people of Britain yes but that is not daddy. Daddy is in London and takes his meals at a private club. Daddy is the 1%.

            Making daddy happy was only icing on the cake. There are other reasons.

  57. akmofo March 25, 2018 at 9:29 am #

    McMaster Worked For Think Tank Funded by Soros, China, Russia
    youtu.be/NIsxAtPaGqw

    The big joke in DC is that they are almost all Chinese and Russian agents. That’s how they make their money, with kickbacks paid to family members as they sell US citizens into corporate slavery.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 25, 2018 at 10:53 am #

      The big joke in DC is that they are almost all Chinese and Russian agents

      Yeah, the one that are not busy already working for Israel. 🙂

      • akmofo March 25, 2018 at 11:11 am #

        Those would be known registered agents. Big difference from getting kickbacks to family members on the sly.

  58. stelmosfire March 25, 2018 at 11:33 am #

    “The Austin bomber only killed two. Mass shooters ‘almost’ always have more victims. A novice building a bomb is not going to be very good or experienced at it while guns have been refined for centuries.” Perhaps you forgot to mention psycho Timmy McVeigh and OK City. 168 dead and 680 wounded with a simple ANNM bomb. Fertilizer and race car fuel. That stuff must be real hard to come by in OK.

    • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 1:37 pm #

      An excellent example. That bomb was so hard to put together McVeigh needed help and could not do it alone. McVeigh was driven by his ideology. Stopping people like him is different than the vast majority of shooters who have no ideologies at all. These are the people who are stopped by making the process difficult. Lift the lid on their brainpan and take a peek and I’m sure you’d be grossed out by all the disgusting filth but you would not see organized filth. McVeigh had organized filth. McVeigh was the exception.

  59. thwack March 25, 2018 at 12:01 pm #

    Speaking of your interview with Gereg Moffitt at Legalize Freedom; he mentioned something about his friend visiting Florida and being stopped by the cops for walking beside the highway headed towards downtown…

    You explained to him how in the U.S people who do that are seen as “losers”, and possibly criminals…

    This is true and stems from the fact that operating a motor vehicles is a way people broadcast their voluntary associated with The State, and that they have a minimal level of “good standing” with said State.

    Driving a car also implies you have a drivers license.

    Having state issued identification is a very “1st world” type thingy and it must be maintained too; which requires a certain minimum level of basic civic competency which many people no longer have; especially if they have done jail/prison time.

  60. johngalt March 25, 2018 at 12:42 pm #

    One day:
    got-truth.com/docs/One%20day.pdf
    -JG-

  61. janet March 25, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

    “A pillar of their madness apparently is ‘forced equity’ where everything is taken and redistributed among minorities to reconcile past wrongs.” –K-dog

    I would much rather the redistribution be to minorities to reconcile past wrongs than to waste the money on defense welfare projects to enrich the wasteful/fraudulent contractors (now that Qshtik is not there to audit them scrupulously).

    As it stands, Department of Defense contractor fraud and waste have squandered at least $150 billion in taxpayer funds since the beginning of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and there has been zero accountability. I say it should have gone to the minorities… at least that would stimulate our economy, not Afghanistan’s. America first, and all that.

    whistleblowerattorneys.com/blog/contracts-crimes-defense-contractor-fraud-impacts-military-economy-n…

    • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 2:55 pm #

      I still want to know what Canada has done to make them feel so guilty.

      Except to come down here and work American jobs when we are not able to go north and work up there. I’ve been stung by that policy personally.

  62. janet March 25, 2018 at 2:12 pm #

    The President will not be bringing on DC husband-and-wife legal duo Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing. It was announced Monday that diGenova had been hired.

    Now the short-fingered vulgarian Trump cannot even hire people so he can fire them later. People are catching on. Now they are refusing to even work for the Putin puppet. Meanwhile, 45’s $4 trillion-plus budget projects a $1 trillion or so federal deficit and — unlike the plan he released last year — never comes close to promising a balanced federal ledger even after 10 years. Meet the new boss. Just like the old boss… except the money goes to defense welfare projects and comes out of our pockets.

    • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 3:02 pm #

      Trump is doubly screwed since Charlie Manson died last November. Trump can’t appoint him to anything, Charlie is dead.

      • elysianfield March 25, 2018 at 7:23 pm #

        Dog,
        Charlie is dead, and yet Michael Vick lives….

  63. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 3:15 pm #

    Read the following article about the destruction of Ireland by their globalist elite and you will never have to read another thing by Elrond or Alba. Their tactics are made clear. This is how they roll. They are the Borg: Resistance is futile and you will be absorbed. I’m afraid the only answer now is that of Captain Moonlight. JS

    The Crushing of Irish Culture — It Has Been Decided

    by Michael Copeland

    What’s up, Ireland? Feeling left behind?

    Not enough brutal rapes?

    Not enough mass gropings?

    Not enough throat-slitting of priests?

    Not enough knifepoint robberies?

    Not enough car-burnings?

    The “Big Vision” will soon fix all that.

    What is the Big Vision? Translated, it is the Big Invasion. Announced with glowing spin as a plan to boost the population of Ireland, “to re-shape Ireland”, it involves inflicting a MILLION extra inhabitants from abroad on the luckless Irish. Ponder well: this will be followed by “family re-unification” — some two and a half million more — as well as all the new children born to these new arrivals. The Irish, population 4.7 million, will be swamped. How can their sense of specialness, their identity, survive? It cannot, and it is not intended to. Irish culture is to be overrun, crushed, and destroyed. That has been decided. Irishness will be just a quaint curio to be found in museums and scratchy old recordings.

    The Irish government has issued a propaganda video to explain their policy, grandly titled “Ireland 2040 — Our Plan”. Spot the sly ambiguity straight away? “OUR” plan. Dear Irish people, is it really? No. The hapless Irish were, of course, never asked if they wanted the population to be “boosted” from abroad, if they wanted Ireland to be “re-shaped”. It is THEIR plan, the politicians’ plan. They can say it is “Our Plan” as politicians, but the listeners will conveniently imagine that the people have somehow been party to it. What a mistake!

    Dear Irish people, in case you feel like it, your government will not want you to disagree. The authoritative voice-over dictates, almost menacingly, how to think.

    We are a country that is diverse, growing, and changing.

    “Diverse”? In fact, Ireland is still nearly all Irish. “Growing”: this is a dishonest mis-description. Ireland will be deliberately flooded with a million outsiders: that is not ordinary domestic growth. “Changing” sounds all nice and natural, but it misrepresents what is really happening — having change inflicted from above.

    By 2040 our population is expected to increase by one million….

    Oh, “is expected to”: how very abstract of it. No. Again, this is not honest. It has been DECIDED. That is why it is expected. It was decided, furthermore, without any consultation with the luckless taxpayers upon whom it is being imposed. Note well that nowhere in this exciting plan is there any mention of encouraging native Irish young adults to have more children, and the plan will be spending 116 billion Euros. No, the Irish are unimportant.

    Imagine ELEVEN cities the size of Limerick. That much housing is what is needed to accommodate the ushered-in newcomers. As the publicity material explains:

    There will be a need for an absolute minimum of half a million new homes, which is at least 25,000 homes every year.

    Ireland is bankrupt, in debt for the next fifty years for having bailed out the failed Irish banks. It seems that Irish leaders are doing what their EU and UN banking masters tell them. These “banksters” have a plan for Europe. They worked it out at those Bilderberg meetings — you know, the ones where world leaders gather to stitch up policy without any tiresome Parliaments in the way, and whose conclusions are never made public. Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, has rumbled this conspiracy:

    Europe is already under an invasion. …. Brussels will not protect Europe. They do not want to stop the migration, but rather to support it and organize it. They want to dilute and replace the people of Europe!

    Dear Irish people, are you looking forward to being diluted and replaced? This is no slander. The UN plan specifically speaks of “Replacement Migration”. There you have it: you are not being helped, or strengthened: you are being replaced. Charming, isn’t it? See how well that is working out in the UK, in Sweden, in France, where whole urban populations are now replaced with non-indigenous inhabitants, and with foreign rules being applied. “London’s not an English city any more”, observed John Cleese some years ago. Are you waiting to hear a verdict on Dublin from an actor, or can you see it for yourselves?

    The propaganda voice-over explains:

    At the heart of Project Ireland 2040 is the objective to build a better society.

    You see, dear Irish people, you are simply not good enough. After you have been diluted and replaced Ireland will have “a better society”. How’s that for loyalty, protection, and compliment? Dear Irish people, you are being sidelined. “Our Plan” is not about you. “Our Plan” is about others:

    Migration will shape how the population grows and changes…

    There will be more people who will be more diverse…

    …so that together we can create a better society…

    “Our” plan is about migration. It is being treated rather as if it is as ordinary and predictable as bird migration — you know, something that happens every year. Notice also that there is that dishonest “we” again. Without so much as a by-your-leave “we”, the Irish people, have been roped in without being asked. “We” cannot object, because that would mean “we” would be opposed to a “better society”. That would be racist and bigoted and xenophobic, and “we” cannot have that. As arrogant Frans Timmermans of the EU barks,

    Europe WILL be diverse! …diversity is humanity’s DESTINY!

    Irish politicians are obligingly doing what they are told.

    A recurrent thread runs through all this material — dishonesty. Huge devastating artificial changes are being spoken of as if they were natural and desirable occurrences. The “Our” in “Our Plan” is dishonest. The “better society” is dishonest. The UN set the pattern some years ago. Here are three dishonest assertions from the UN in one of their propaganda videos:

    Migration is Inevitable

    Migration is Necessary

    Migration is Desirable

    All three of those assertions, presented as accomplished facts, are false. They are pernicious propaganda.

    The Prime Minister of Ireland, Leo Varadkar, appears in the Irish government video with his upbeat announcement:

    Project Ireland 2040 is a plan for a social, economic, and cultural development,

    […] a ten-year plan to invest in our infrastructure as a country,

    There is that word again, “development”. Well, yes, in a way: dilution and replacement are a kind of “development”, but not what most people would understand by the term. Mr. Varadkar uses the word “invest”: this is a euphemism for public expenditure, designed to gain the listeners’ favourable agreement. He mentions the rolling out of new faster broadband around the country, a very expensive procedure, but who could complain? These distractions, however, draw attention away from the main feature of “Our Plan” — the bringing in of a million non-Irish from abroad, presumably from Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and wherever else, as dictated by the UN.

    Of course the announcement has to come complete with platitudinous waffle:

    …a plan to make Ireland a country that reflects the best of who we are and what we aspire to.

    But, but, but “who we are” is being changed to “more people who will be more diverse”. The picture becomes difficult to visualise. Varadkar asks

    Why do we need a plan? We need a plan because in 20 years’ time there’ll be an extra million people living in Ireland.

    There is that “extra million”: it has been decided, you see, and they are not Irish babies.

    To launch “Our Plan” on the unsuspecting Irish public Mr. Varadkar’s government paid the press to publish puff pieces extolling it, with instructions that they could not include anything negative or critical. This brings to mind the bossy and commanding dictum of another influential Irishman, the late bullying and tainted Peter Sutherland:

    “Governments have to lead by giving the positive news that migrants are good for a community, economically and every other way ….”

    Discredited, bloated, and corrupt, Sutherland’s employers, the UN, have been pressing this propaganda for some time. The UN’s Ban Ki Moon, Peter Sutherland and Federica Mogherini all called for what they euphemised as “Search and Rescue” of boatloads of illegal invaders, mostly Africans, setting off from Libya. This amounts to complicity with the people-traffickers. They effectively provided a ferry service, utilising so-called Non-Governmental Organisations (which critics claim are fake charities conducting government business), whose capacious ships defy Maritime Law by failing to take the people they “rescue” to the nearest port, in Libya, but instead transporting them far away to Italy. The ferry service is still running.

    Sutherland’s taint comes from his being the UN’s Special Representative for Migration: he was a Paid Migration Promoter. It was he who promoted the establishment of, and then headed, the UN’s Global Forum on Migration and Development. Note the give-away word “Global”: this is code for brushing aside national borders and sovereignties. Notice also the deceptive word “Development”: this has already, above, been exposed as a cover term for population dilution and replacement.

    The UN, dominated by the 56 Islamic state “Organisation of Islamic Co-operation”, is no longer pursuing its remit of promoting peace. It has become captive to a sinister objective to dissolve national sovereignties in favour of a One World Order. William F. Jasper exposes this in his article, “Insider: EU-U.S. Must Take More Refugees, Get Rid of Sovereignty”:

    With the UN we are contending against not only the natural tendency toward the accumulation of power in government, but also a longstanding, organized conspiracy of powerful forces to build, piece by piece, step by step, an omnipotent global government.

    Sutherland has been a bossy exponent of this. His technique was, in a commanding and authoritative way, to be scornful and disparaging. This method, useful for a Chairman of the Board in accomplishing the agenda, makes it difficult for any objection to be made.

    The days of hiding behind borders and fences are long gone. We have to work together and cooperate together to make a better world.

    There is that “better world” again. At the same time Sutherland would confidently promote falsehoods that happen to coincide with the One World Government agenda.

    …migrants are good for a community, economically and every other way…

    states have to become more open states, in terms of the people who inhabit them… sovereignty is an illusion… sovereignty is an absolute illusion that has to be put behind us.

    He lets the EU cat out of the bag with another disparaging dictum:

    We… ourselves, who still nurse a sense of our homogeneity and difference from others… And that’s precisely what the European Union, in my view, should be doing its best to undermine.

    Beware, dear Irish people, Mr. Varadkar seems to be doing what Sutherland was calling for. You will be diluted and replaced, and your sense of difference from others undermined, and all to make a “better society”. It has been decided.

    Irish politicians are, many of them, on board with this self-destruction. One states, quite authoritatively and without explanation, in the propaganda video,

    The population of Ireland is going to grow by over a million people…

    Remember, it has been decided.

    Of course, this huge change is being dressed with upbeat spin. Trotted out are all the compulsory jolly adjectives — vibrant, exciting, diverse, kaleidoscopic, bla bla bla….

    David Stanton, Minister of State for Equality, Immigration and Integration, obliges us with:

    Our country has changed and changed so much for the better. … All over Ireland today …. we have diverse communities and that bring colour and vitality….

    Yes. “The better”. Really? And what do the newspapers say?

    African Youth Gangs Terrorizing Dublin 15 Communities

    700 Protesting Against Violent African Gangs Get Accused of Racism

    Gangs of African teenagers have been terrorising locals across Dublin …assaulting and robbing people ….often with… large knives. …running rampant all over the capital …wreaking havoc wherever they go.

    Residents in Tyrrelstown have for years been plagued by similar issues, with reports of harassment and assaults ranging from beatings, assaults and even stabbings meted out to both adults and children alike, not excluding pensioners and delivery drivers who seem to be a focal point of their intimidation and violence.

    That must be what “vibrant” means.

    Take heed, dear Irish people, “Our Plan” spells destruction. The thin end of this huge and terrifying wedge is already inserted into the Irish polity. Just under 12 per cent of the population previously had a nationality other than Irish. That is a dangerously menacing proportion. It is in the younger age groups that the threat is truly stark:

    When we compare the White Irish age groups to the rest they are top-heavy, as they make up the majority of the over 40s, while the other ethnic groups are massively overrepresented in the 25-34-year-old bracket.

    The government is on a mission to force through these changes with or without the public’s blessing.

    [Iconoclast: Irish Government Embraces Mass Immigration | Ireland 2040 | Leo Varadkar]

    David Vance assesses the dire outlook:

    Now when this tsunami of government-approved and government-forced immigration hits it will be fast and hard and utterly transformative. Ireland will be changed forever, and it will make the country unsafe for the indigenous Irish.

    This forced diversity will not be its strength, as they pretend. It will be its epitaph.

    Dear Irish people, do not let this happen.

    We outside Ireland want Ireland to be for the Irish.

    Defend your home identity.

    Defend your music, your dance, your language, your unique cultural heritage.

    Long may they be sustained by your effort and love.

    • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 3:48 pm #

      I can’t prove you wrong on this one Janos. Seems the 1% wants to see more color when they look out the window.

      In an increasingly diverse and multicultural society we need cultural underpinnings that celebrate not just our local or national distinctiveness but also our shared cultural values and our shared humanity. This requires imaginative consideration of how we can best deliver appropriate cultural and heritage infrastructure in the future, in all parts of the country.

      “appropriate cultural and heritage infrastructure”

      I have two words for that. They are.

      ‘Fucked Up’

      Where does this madness come from? All Ireland needs now is a Ministry of Love (Miniluv), a Ministry of Plenty (Miniplenty), a Ministry of Peace (Minipax) and a Ministry of Truth (Minitrue).

      That and cage of rats to put over your head and they will have it all.

      npf.ie/

      Seeing to it that Irish young men have jobs seems not to matter much since I doubt they will be doing any of that before they become ‘increasingly diverse and multicultural’ and start issuing government contracts to friends. I was not taken in by the delightful smiling Irish girl who was put into the video as sugar to make bad medicine go down.

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 7:38 pm #

        I am a fair man and I found this for you.

        thesun.ie/news/2048259/schoolboy-gangs-who-are-terrorising-west-dublin-locals-and-targeting-taxi-dri…

        Don’t know about the veracity but it can’t be easily dismissed. That the police can’t handle a problem is a hard thing to make up and pull off. All the ‘chief’ has to do is come out and deny it. I found no such statement.

        Your discovery of the Irish plan suggests an explanation for the Canadian multicultural madness. Perhaps another scheme launched over after dinner drinks there is addressing a future that needs more cheap labor for those after dinner drinks to keep on coming.

        MULTICULTURALISM

        They had to be giddy, what with alcohol in their drink and the realization that it will be a really long time before pink hearts like K-Dog figure out what they are up to. It will be confused with making the world a more fair and equal place and though a rich minority forces multiculturalism that won’t be noticed. It will be a new religion of equality and who will dare say that the overpopulated masses of the torrid zones suffering from the climate change the white devil caused don’t deserve to live! Nobody will dare. Nobody at all.

        The rich stay rich and we are like one big happy family and those where the wet-bulb temperature becomes consistently above 92 degrees F don’t have to die.

        It could be worse but mass migration is going to happen because it is going to be profitable.

        GROW GROW GROW.

    • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 4:07 pm #

      Bingo page 16.

      This implies hat the average age across the population will increase more rapidly than has been the case and that unless immigration increases, overall population growth will slow.

      There you have it. Unsustainability at its best. Grow baby grow. Ireland has to grow until the population is a full order of magnitude beyond the carrying capacity of the land or the 1% won’t have everyone else by the short hairs as they must have to continue to be the 1%. They need the extra people so they can maintain their bottom line.

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 4:07 pm #

        Sorry about the shouting. I forgot my closing tag.

      • ozone March 25, 2018 at 5:14 pm #

        K-dog,
        Ahhh, now we see that the skimmers and grifters have tumbled to the population ‘thing’ and that contraction is in charge of the future. The earth’s population has *just begun* to contract and will soon be as exponential as its growth. (I’m really not sure if it’s an access to information phenomenon, crushed libidos, widespread use of birth control… OR, people are finally taking a look around and have discovered that their future children will suffer the hardships of privation even more than their current “crop”.)

        Anyhoo, that’s what’s in the works, and if they can’t maintain the present rate of hate between the lumpen factions, the rabble will come for *them* as the next step toward “reconfiguration”. (Indubitably deserved, IMHO.)

      • ozone March 25, 2018 at 5:41 pm #

        So now, we holler, “Fuck It!”, and post cut and paste screeds to the CFN shitshow. (I’ll watch the crows and squirrels fight it out for the newly-exposed acorns, thanks.) Enjoy the rage motherfuckers, you’ve earned every spiteful speck of it…

        “In the early 1990s I spent some time in Thailand “interviewing” a variety of shady “ex”-CIA characters; I put “interviewing” in quotes because it mainly consisted of watching them get drunk among throngs of teenage prostitutes, and I put “ex” in quotes because…who knows? I met my main informant in a bar in the northern city of Udon Thani, about an hour’s drive from the Laotian border. A five-piece Thai string band was sawing away at a slow and faintly atonal tune, one that kept creeping in and out of my consciousness, at first seeming exotic and Asian and then feeling oddly familiar; eventually I realized they were playing a grim Thai version of Hank Williams’ I’m So Lonesome I Could Cry. We were sitting outside in the sweltering dark, drinking the nightmarish Mekong Whiskey, which tastes nothing like whiskey and more like peach brandy that’s had a nervous breakdown. My severely alcoholic “ex”-CIA acquaintance, in-between trying to sell me cut-rate rubies that were supposedly just smuggled out of Burma, was schooling me on the “realties” of war—specifically, the so-called “secret war” in Laos. (If you are old enough to remember watching the Viet Nam war unfold on TV, you may subliminally recall Tom Brokaw or Dan Rather talking about American planes taking off from “Udorn Air Force Base” to drop gigantic bombs on straw-hut villages: this teeming airbase in Udon Thani was also the main staging area for the CIA’s Air America, then the biggest airline in the world.)

        At one point, as he knocked back another shot of Mekong with one hand and caressed the bare thigh of a 16-year-old Thai bargirl with the other, my informant seemed to refer to the secret bombardment of Laos an “arty” war. “What the hell was so ‘arty’ about it?” I asked, and he roared with laughter, spewing whiskey fumes into my face. “It wasn’t an ‘arty’ war, man—it was an R and D war!” I still didn’t get it. He rolled his eyes at my idiocy and spelled it all out slowly, as if to a child. “Ever heard the phrase ‘research and development’? Lockheed, Boeing, all those companies were developing tons of new products–weapons and planes that weren’t street-legal yet. But where are you gonna test the fuckin’ things, y’know? They needed a real-life laboratory, man, and Laos was the laboratory.”

        I was still reeling from that observation when he made another one—more obvious and yet even more sickening. “Look, man, you can manufacture all the bombs and guns you want, but it’s like any other business—you need to turn over your inventory. Those bombs and guns have to be consumed. You want constant turnover, right? Supply, turnover, re-supply. It aint complicated, man!”

        No; it’s not complicated. And he wasn’t telling me anything I didn’t already know, on an abstract level; but for the first time I was forced to see what William Burroughs called the “naked lunch” of it—the reality that burning Asian children to ashes was simply American business as usual; that in fact those murdered Asian kids were just the byproducts of a military-industrial complex that no one seems to question any more. Back then we did good business slaughtering Asians; today our tax dollars are hard at work murdering innocents in Yemen, among other places.

        And, to paraphrase TS Eliot, the MSNBCs and CNNs come and go, speaking of Andrew McCabe.

        Meanwhile, the war profiteers chew up thousands of innocent lives like so many bloodstained Fritos. They devour poor young Americans by the thousands, and dark-skinned foreigners by the hundreds of thousands. Lockheed. Boeing. The Republican Party. General Electric. The Democratic Party. These entities are monsters, but their minions take human form; sometimes—like Chuck Schumer—they can appear “incredibly lifelike.” Immaculately groomed, their wrists tricked out in garish Rolexes, these hideous minions—some prefer to be called “consultants,” some to be called “government officials”–buy $85 steaks for each other, and toast one another after dinner with anisette and espresso. Some call themselves liberals; some conservatives. But they are united in murder. By day, they burn entire families to charcoal–or, even worse, leave one lone parent, eyelids burned off, alive to scream for the lost. I’m not exaggerating even a little bit: these people are the worst kind of carnival geeks–chicken-head-biters, with blood running down their chins–but at night they sit down to dine on plates of fine china with the Wolf Blitzers and Maggie Habermans of the world.”

        …………………………………………………….

        “How can we live with all this rage?

        Nowadays, every time you venture out the cabin door and step into the public conversation about politics, you’re forced to compete in a daily Olympics of competitive loathing. On websites, on social media, even sometimes in talking to friends, it’s this non-stop decathlon of ugliness, “libtards” versus “rethuglicans,” “treason-weasels” clawing at the “sheeple,” the stupidity of the terms themselves symptomatic of the whole dumb battle, with the corporate media all too eager to broadcast every sucker-punch and ear-bite in slow-motion. But somehow it all seems fake. It’s always directed at individuals, not at these lethal institutions.

        Just as Chomsky has written about “the manufacture of consent,” we can now see how—and why–the American political establishment works around the clock to “manufacture rage:” because the powers-that-be know that fostering this endless anger is a perfect way to keep their critics tangled up in the ropes and snares of their own hateful rhetoric. As long as Americans are training their anger at each other, they won’t do any damage to those actual powers-that-be.” — John Eskow

        …And no people, the truth will not be revealed in an atmosphere of mutual and complete mistrust, now the job is consigned to persecution and pain. Henceforth, your name-tag will read, “Hello, I’m an infidel”, because there is no one left who is not complicit in the hate that fuels the rage.

        Yer best bud sez: “Cool story bro’, but the game is on pretty soon and I’ve gotta run down to the packie and grab a brick of Bud Lite. Chill, I’ll brb.”

        • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 6:17 pm #

          You’re not above any of this. You’ll have to fight for your life with men of your own race and culture or face the compassion of rampaging Communists and their Orc enforcers.

          Choose or the choice will be made for you.

          • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 6:39 pm #

            He has chosen. We are going to get you. 🙂

        • tucsonspur March 25, 2018 at 6:31 pm #

          The horrors of war machines are unavoidable. The machines often tested and proved to sadistic limits.

          Almost superhuman effort would be required to upend the “powers that be”.

          Life sucks then you die.

          Have the power.Control the rage.

          Leave Tyson to bite the ears. What rage, what fury!

        • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 6:37 pm #

          ‘Humanitarian’ impulses saving some from death then rearrange domestic population to keep wages low and to maximize internal strife so to distract while they forever collect rents. Business as usual. As long as they are on top they let the world go to shit.

          Oil exports and gated communities are our future it seems. With a world in turmoil to keep the oil price up for the rich. Wars if possible. Many but not to big. Just the right size $$$$$$$$$$.

          It is enough to frack you up.

          Enjoy your Bud Lite with the Stormy Daniels show tonight. We may find it is not just the hands that are little.

          That would explain a few things.

          • malthuss March 25, 2018 at 8:11 pm #

            You NEVER see the real agenda. You are our, ‘Helen Keller.’

          • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 8:37 pm #

            Then you have to enlighten me. If the agenda is not about the rich keeping what they have at all costs what is it?

        • ozone March 26, 2018 at 8:40 am #

          By the lights of Eskow’s essay, we can see whose aims are being fulfilled by the endless hateful rantings of certain posters on this comment section. Are ya gettin’ it now? (If this can’t/won’t be understood, the real issues haven’t a chance of being discerned, much less faced.)

    • elysianfield March 25, 2018 at 7:40 pm #

      Janos,
      But what of the Bold IRA? Have they commented?

    • malthuss March 25, 2018 at 8:09 pm #

      The de population agenda.

      Less of us and still lots $ for them.

  64. tucsonspur March 25, 2018 at 5:56 pm #

    I was in Ireland during the seventies, taking in its lush beauty, ancient castles and magnificent surrounding cliffs and ocean.

    Tragic, what is happening today. No more fairy tale land, but rather a tale from the early Brothers Grimm.

    Robie Kirwan helps with Carrickfergus:

    youtube.com/watch?v=C_RMKkzJoJM&list=PL60AEB84A2D968299

    • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 6:13 pm #

      Just a few weeks ago, even before I knew about this monstrous Plan, Alba was mocking me about my concerns about the rate of 3rd World immigration in Ireland. One is reminded of John McCain on the Campaign trail affirming the strength of the American Economy on the morning of the collapse. Or the London Global Warming Conference, held high in a Tower in a large room with huge windows, during a very rare heavy November snow storm.

      Nature herself will show the Lies and Fatuity of the Her Enemies, much to their discomfiture.

      • tucsonspur March 25, 2018 at 6:59 pm #

        Wow, was it a lapse of some sort, “or an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of underdone potato….”

        She seems too bright for such tomfoolery.

        • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 7:05 pm #

          There’s more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!’

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 7:01 pm #

        Yes, you did indeed unearth a monstrous plan. Congratulations. The planned disenfranchisement of a native people in deference to a lower wage population of new immigrants.

        WHERE ON EARTH HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE?

        • ozone March 25, 2018 at 7:17 pm #

          😀

          • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 7:32 pm #

            The Death Head Skull grins. He loves the idea of Whites getting it!

            He forgets that he is White as are his kids. Will he learn in time?

          • ozone March 26, 2018 at 8:56 am #

            Lies and blatant misrepresentation (as usual).

        • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 7:26 pm #

          What, you don’t think it’s happening here too? Or in Germany? Greece? France? Sweden? It’s the sudden and abruptness of this that is striking – even a small mountain will seem huge and high when it rises alone from a plane. And beyond that it is striking for its honesty. The War on Whites is going into high gear and they don’t feel they have to hide it anymore. Google Kalergi Plan. Their plans are deep and will laid, and of long duration.

          We’re the Indians now. And although that delights many weirdo Whites, sick with ethnomasochism (as if the Indians were perfect and pacifists with each other), they will not enjoy the reality of it when it becomes “real”.

          Recently the Cherokee were forced to acknowledge Blacks, the descendants of Cherokee slaves, as tribal members, after a long and bitter fight. As the Leader of the Cherokee said, Those Freedmen will suck you dry. Did you think the Indians were better than that? Or somehow dark skinned Liberals? Did you at least know that many practiced slavery before the Whites ever got here? And cannibalism too?

          • elysianfield March 25, 2018 at 7:44 pm #

            “Did you at least know that many practiced slavery before the Whites ever got here? And cannibalism too?”

            Janos,
            All perfectly natural, like buggery. Nothing to see here folks…

            …move along….

          • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 7:55 pm #

            Might see some buggery tonight. Stormy and Trump. Little hands and her specialty apparently could lead to a ‘behind‘ the scenes revelation.

          • K-Dog March 26, 2018 at 1:59 am #

            Seriously Janos you are on to something but you think it is about race. It is not. It is about class and specific groups and individuals who want to maintain their own supremacy and existing arrangements. Decency would have arrangements change and evolve over time so happiness increases but as it goes on Animal Farm those who get power become intoxicated with it.

            “Years pass and Animal Farm expands its boundaries after Napoleon purchases two fields from another neighboring farmer, Pilkington. Life for all the animals (except the pigs) is harsh. Eventually, the pigs begin walking on their hind legs and take on many other qualities of their former human oppressors. The Seven Commandments are reduced to a single law: “All Animals Are Equal / But Some Are More Equal Than Others.” The novel ends with Pilkington sharing drinks with the pigs in Jones’ house. Napoleon changes the name of the farm back to Manor Farm and quarrels with Pilkington during a card game in which both of them try to play the ace of spades. As other animals watch the scene from outside the window, they cannot tell the pigs from the humans.

  65. janet March 25, 2018 at 7:22 pm #

    “Europe WILL be diverse! …diversity is humanity’s DESTINY!” –janos

    Janos, you are using all caps to shout at us. It is not necessary. The future tense “will be” is incorrect. The fact is that Europe IS ALREADY diverse. It is humanity’s destiny. Diversity is strength. Ain’t no way you can stop it. Using Jim’s bandwidth here is not going to stop it.

    The fact is the Irish have a right to plan their future, even if you, as a self-admitted racist, do not agree. By the Irish for the Irish… Project Ireland 2040 is a € 116 billion plan which aims to guide Ireland’s development over the next 22 years – setting priorities, reinforcing values, Irish values which affirm diversity. The Irish know what they are doing. Do you?

    • Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2018 at 7:35 pm #

      Uh, where did I say that? Oh, that’s the article I posted and he’s being ironic.

      Surely you aren’t really that dense?

    • JohnAZ March 25, 2018 at 7:54 pm #

      If diversity is strength, why is everyone trying to move to the US? Why are all these diverse sources such s–tholes? Most people move here legally or not, to escape places they have been disenfranchised in and lost the faith. They come here with few exceptions to partake of a society based on the work ethic of Northern Europe. The anti-diversity crowd basically want the ingress controlled to stop the dilution of the European culture. If we wanted Mexican ideals here, why aren’t more Americans moving to Mexico than vice versa? Or the Middle East and Africa.

      If the Dems succeed in pulling in so many immigrants that it dilutes the base culture of this country, I guess they will have accomplished their goal, the destruction of the economic exceptionalism of the US. George would be proud.

      • K-Dog March 25, 2018 at 8:29 pm #

        If the Dems succeed …..

        Dude, Republicans want cheap labor more than Dems do. The Dems still have to pretend they represent the working man. Their failure to do so cost them the last election. Next time they might remember though I doubt they are that smart. Maybe the time after. Republicans want ‘legal’ aliens. Aliens who can come here work for a year and go home. Legal inequality is what they want but commitment to inequality is absolutely what makes a Republican a Republican.