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America didn’t get what it expected, but perhaps it got what it deserved, good and hard. Daddy’s in the house and he busted straight into the nursery and now the little ones are squalling in horror. Mommy was discovered to be a grifting old jade who ran the household into a slum and she’s been turned out to solemnly await the judgment of the courts, nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. The kids on campus have gone temporarily insane over this domestic situation and some wonder if they’ll ever get over it.

Trump as The USA’s Daddy? Well, yeah. Might he turn out to be a good daddy? A lot of people worry that he can’t be. Look how he behaved on the campaign trail: no behavioral boundaries… uccchhh. He even lurches as he walks, like Frankenstein. Not very reassuring — though it appears that somehow he raised up a litter of high-functioning kids of his own. Not a tattoo or an earplug among them. No apparent gender confusion. All holding rather responsible positions in the family business. Go figure….

Judging from the internal recriminations among Democratic Party partisans playing out in the newspapers, it’s as if they all woke up simultaneously from a hypnotic trance realizing what an absolute dud they put up for election in Hillary Clinton — and even beyond that obvious matter, how deeply absurd Democratic ideology had become with its annoying victimology narrative, the incessant yammer about “diversity” and “inclusion,” as if pixie dust were the sovereign remedy for a national nervous breakdown. But can they move on from there? I’m not so sure.

For all practical purposes, both traditional parties have blown themselves up. The Democratic Party morphed from the party of thinking people to the party of the thought police, and for that alone they deserve to be flushed down the soil pipe of history where the feckless Whigs went before them. The Republicans have floundered in their own Special Olympics of the Mind for decades, too, so it’s understandable that they have fallen hostage to such a rank outsider as Trump, so cavalier with the party’s dumb-ass shibboleths. It remains to be seen whether the party becomes a vengeful, hybrid monster with an orange head, or a bridge back to reality. I give the latter outcome a low percentage chance.

Mommy is all about feelings and Daddy’s role is action and that is another reason that Hillary lost and Trump won. We’ve heard enough about people’s feelings and it just doesn’t matter anymore. You’re offended? Suck an egg. Someone appropriated your culture? Go shit in your sombrero. What matters is how we’re going to contend with the winding down of Modernity — the techno-industrial orgy that is losing its resource and money mojo. The politics of sacred victimhood has got to yield to the politics of staying alive.

President-elect Trump may not know it yet, but events are now in charge, not personalities, not even his super-sized persona. Global trade and economic activity have been winding down all year and it’s finally affecting financial markets kept aloft on borrowed money, sending a strong signal through bonds that the borrowed money may never be paid down, and that additional borrowing will cost a whole lot more — so much more that it will bankrupt the nations that issue it.

That alone will make it difficult for a President Trump to scare up the ready cash for the infrastructure-rebuilding fiesta so many expect. And if he does manage to flush the funding out of the banking thickets, it is liable to carry an inflationary bird flu that will end up killing money all around the world. We won’t be worrying about Trans Pacific Partnerships anymore because letters-of-credit will be unavailable to move large shipments of anything from Point A to Point B. How long after that will it be before the supermarket shelves empty down? And in the event, what will the dollar buy?

It looks like the shit sandwich President Obama has carefully prepared and left in the White House pantry for his successor will take the form of inflation, the dying of your money — or, at least, paper currency. Or, if it doesn’t die outright, prepare for the possibility that you might not be able to get your hands on it, as money markets gate their exits and banks restrict cash withdrawals.

Though it’s clearly a loser strategy now, I suspect that the ragged remains of the Democratic Party will persist in amping up their sacred identity grievances to the point of civil strife without ever understanding the economic dynamics in motion. They don’t know what else to do. Plus, they are captives of the poverty policy racketeers. I also suspect that neither Mr. Obama or Mr. Trump will get around to pardoning Hillary Clinton for the racketeering operation of her foundation, of which the private email server was the least issue — rather, the arrant sale of influence and access to the State Department is the heart of the matter, and anyone paying attention knows it, including the incoming Attorney General. If that circus comes to town, Trump could benefit from the distraction it offers the public.

There’s a lot of talk on the Net about Strauss and Howe’s “Fourth Turning” taking stage now. That excellent book, published twenty years ago, posits the turbulent end of 80-year generational cycles in history. (Blogger Jim Quinn lays it out nicely this week at The Burning Platform). Previous Fourth Turning presidents Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt took the nation through epic bloodbaths and economic dislocation. Donald Trump in terms of demeanor is no Lincoln and no FDR. But he did raise up those children of his somehow, and that’s all we’ve got to go on for the moment.

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  1. Georges1202 November 21, 2016 at 9:37 am #


    So he raised some decent brats? That is what we have to hang our hopes on?


    • K-Dog November 21, 2016 at 9:52 am #

      Yes that’s all there is. Like he said Trump is no Lincoln or FDR. Trump is a bleach blonde version of Homey D Clown. The crazy clown sightings of preceding months were precognitive glimpses into the bizzarro world madness where events run things because no personality emerges with the mental horsepower to understand what the hell is going on! We are in an era where the loudest wishes grab attention and the substance of their reality is irrelevant. Mass media was unable convince everybody that it was Hillarie’s turn but they have been able to sterilize the mass mind.

      • noel bodie November 21, 2016 at 10:53 am #

        JHK, you missed one point…HRC won the popular vote by over a million votes. So much for being out of touch. Also I read the BURNING PLATFORM blog and find it simplistic…using Gandalf for an example for reality?! This after the blogger sez”cultural warfare gibberish will have no place in the coming trials”. Gibber, gibber. His claim that Soros is behind demonstrations is a give away to his true ideology. So much for his dystopian wet dream

        • troutbum2 November 21, 2016 at 10:58 am #

          Actually, Clinton will probably exceed Trump’s popular vote by 2,000,000! Currently, it’s 1.7 Million with 7 million uncounted ballots in NY, CA and WA.

          • Sean Coleman November 21, 2016 at 12:01 pm #

            Are they still counting? I keep hearing over here in Ireland that Clinton got more votes so she won. After Brexit Facebook and the press was alight with bad losers. There should be a re-run because the margin was so tight. Here are some people who now bitterly regret voting to Leave. Old people had ruined the future of the young. The electorate had been misled by blatant lies. There was an Facebook petition to have Nigel Farage prosecuted for ‘hate crimes’. Everyone was suddenly a constitutional expert and opining about the sovereignty of Parliament. My sister was in a frenzy over it although I had never heard her mention Europe before. Apparently she is talking of coming to live in Ireland, about which she never had a good word to say!

          • Piper Michael November 21, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

            The last I heard, Michigan hadn’t been officially ‘called’…
            The last numbers seen out of there had Trump ahead, significantly, and then, dead silence… I guess they still count votes in Michigan with an abacus?
            As far as the popular vote, that worked out real well for Greece, now didn’t it?
            Last time I heard, we were a Constitutional Republic, not a ‘Democracy’, as so many democrats would rather believe. It was setup that way deliberately, to protect the country from ‘The Tyranny of the Majority’, you know, NY, CA, FL, and a few other hedonistic ratholes that like to breed in stack ‘n packs…
            Thank God for the electoral college, look at the map you heathen assholes. If you ever do get a popular vote amendment to the constitution, it’ll be over many dead bodies…
            Be careful what you ask for, you might get it…

            Good post Jim.

          • Piper Michael November 21, 2016 at 1:44 pm #

            ALL those numbers you’re siting, are all dead people…

          • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 2:25 pm #

            This election needs to be gone over with a fine tooth comb. Millions of illegals probably voted, among other massive frauds. The swamp needs to be drained. And even if we scrapped the electoral system, that would be for next time. Face the Glorious Reality: Donald John Trump is our President.

          • hmuller November 21, 2016 at 5:17 pm #

            Actually, troutbum2, when you account for all the voter fraud, the dead, the illegals, the felons, (all for Hillary) the wretched old witch didn’t get more votes. But go and do your politically correct little victory dance. It makes no difference.

            One day we’ll see that shackled slimeball doing a perp walk, and we who value justice will laugh. You’ll probably have a nervous breakdown.

          • Elrond Hubbard November 21, 2016 at 7:26 pm #

            Piper Michael: “[Y]ou know, NY, CA, FL, and a few other hedonistic ratholes that like to breed in stack ‘n packs…”

            What, you mean places where lots of people actually live? CA=39.1 million people, FL = 20.3 million, NY = 19.8 million. How is it ‘tyranny’ if three states which account for just about a quarter of the U.S. population actually count for a lot in the election? (Source.)

            hmuller: “[W]hen you account for all the voter fraud, the dead, the illegals, the felons, (all for Hillary) the wretched old witch didn’t get more votes.”

            Saying it’s so doesn’t make it so. You haven’t “accounted” for any alleged voter fraud, you’ve just claimed it. Give a source for this, please.

          • Are you kidding? Add up all the Jill Stein and the Libertarian and Nevada’s “None of these”.

            Then include the 100 million people who didn’t vote.

            You can’t salvage anything from those results.

            Democrats lost everything, Senate, House. I don’t think they’ll lose the Supreme court, yet, just because 90 is the new 70.

            I am enjoying watching the media these days. Trump has taken over 4/5 of the New York Times front page. Krugman has his work cut out for him. Chuck Blow is apoplectic.

            Meanwhile those beatific faces you see passing in the streets of the urban west aren’t Trump voters- they’re NON voters. Ahh, the apolitical life.

          • outsider November 22, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

            troutbum – In our constitutional republic the popular vote for potus means nothing. If it was by popular vote, both Trump and Hillary would have campaigned completely differently. Trump would have spent much more time campaigning in the big cities, and no doubt tens of thousands of disaffected conservatives in California (for example) would have turned out for Trump. As is, in solid blue states like Cal & NY, those people have no reason to even bother going to the polls under the EC’s winner-take-all rules. Trump is actually in favor of going by popular vote, and claims he would still have won anyway.

        • K-Dog November 21, 2016 at 2:50 pm #


          JHK should have warned everyone that a thorough scrubbing with lots of soap and water is needed to rid one of the Burning Platform stench after a visit there.

          • K-Dog November 21, 2016 at 2:51 pm #

            Bleach is advised!

          • sharonsj November 23, 2016 at 4:46 pm #

            I also wondered why he sent us there. As soon as you see rants about George Soros hiring dissidents to run through the streets, and people with opposite opinions being called snowflakes and libtards, you know you’re in another dimension. Plus, you never see these folks complain about the Koch brothers stealing from the poorest of the poor (Native Americans), polluting communities of color, and buying elections.

    • shotho November 21, 2016 at 10:58 am #

      Does anyone seriously believe that Trump has had anything whatsoever to do in raising children?

      • Anotherplayaguy November 21, 2016 at 11:53 am #

        Absentee Daddy all the way. Let’s give credit where credit is due: the nannies.

        Trump will also be an absentee Daddy for USA. Leaving Pence in charge. That was the plan all along — if there ever was a plan for a Trump win.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 12:09 pm #

          That’s not what his kids say, but what do they know?
          Anyway, if the kind of dad Trump is, is what it takes to get kids like his, bring it.

          • SteveO November 21, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

            We are in a post-fact world. Who knows who really raised them?

          • sooty November 21, 2016 at 2:20 pm #

            So all hail kids who love money, sons who love to shoot “big game” and who look like 80s slicked-back serial killers (and they’re so slick they probably don’t have to buy any product; it just happened)? They’re the worst examples of humans living beyond what our biosystems can sustain–and that’s raising kids well?

            Why, JHK, would a tattoo yield a demerit, but Ivanka’s boob job doesn’t?

          • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:02 pm #

            Very bitter, Soot. Face it: we won, you lost. And you lost because you’re not only out of touch with the American People, but because you actually hate them intensely. They’ve slowly come to realize that. It’s been a one sided war for generations, but now things are going to even up fast.

        • lsjogren November 21, 2016 at 1:20 pm #

          Sorry, that holds no weight. If the nannies raised Trump’s kids then it shows he did an excellent job of delegating responsibility.

      • DMH November 21, 2016 at 12:32 pm #

        I think their mother had a bigger influence on the children.…

    • SteveO November 21, 2016 at 12:09 pm #

      I’d guess he outsourced it.

    • Evan November 21, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

      Absence of visible tattoos or earlobe plugs doesn’t prove the kids are decent. But maybe they are, I don’t know.

      Assuming so, the question remains: Is that because of The Donald’s fathering skill, or in spite of it?

    • 100th Avatar November 21, 2016 at 5:38 pm #

      Why are they brats?

    • ffkling November 21, 2016 at 5:46 pm #

      “Decent brats”? Brats that revel in the perceived omnipotence that wealth affords as evidenced by their numerous canned African safari hunts- rhinoceros, lions, giraffe, hippotamus. No concern for the present mass extinction emergency.

  2. Lawfish November 21, 2016 at 9:43 am #

    Well, the party of victimhood managed to royally shit its own bed with the latest running of Hamilton, including a lecture to the incoming vice president. Not only does that piece of garbage attempt to rewrite history, but now its actors feel they can use the stage to advance their political agenda. I sincerely hope no conservative ever buys a ticket to that shit-show ever again. Then maybe those nitwits will realize it’s unwise to bite the hand that feeds them.

    • shotho November 21, 2016 at 10:50 am #

      Right! Hamilton was the arbiter of central government and government by debt. And we now celebrate him as a demigod??

    • troutbum2 November 21, 2016 at 11:01 am #

      Yes, by all means boycott “Hamilton”. And if you have tickets, give them away. I’ll take 2 for any matinee.
      BTW, both the shows in NYC and Chicago are sold out for the next 9 months or so.

      • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

        Not only is it sold out forever, it’s nearly unaffordable for anyone. A friend of mine is a lighting designer with some Broadway credits. There’s a pool of tickets for each performance set aside for industry insiders. They still have to pay for them, but at least they can get them. My friend has been inundated with requests for tickets. People who haven’t talked to him years are trying to get him to just give them tickets to this show. It’s incredible. His agent, who has a number of other clients of course, has told all his clients to just stop asking for the tickets. He’d have to hire another assistant just to deal with the requests.

        So if the snowflakes on the Right want to boycott “Hamilton,” nobody will notice.

        And, by the way, I was disappointed that Pence walked out during the actor’s lecture from the stage. I would have cringed nearly unto death had I been there when the actor decided to do that, but Pence should have stood there and listened with a smile, and then invited the cast to the White House. That’s what a man with the faith and courage of his convictions would have done. Not just to “kill them with kindness,” but to demonstrate that even in a Broadway theatre, even the cast of the hottest show in decades is not above the Vice President of the United States.

        I think Pence handled it as well as he’s ever shown himself to handle anything, and Trump is living up to his own well-established subterranean standards such as they are. I just wish, once in a while, somebody with some self-respect, style, and largeness of personality would ever make it to a high office.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

          Over 400 dollars a ticket, Hillary has reportedly been four times.

          • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

            She’s only getting the tickets through connections. Whatever. That is, indeed, show biz.

        • lsjogren November 21, 2016 at 1:22 pm #

          Trump is supposed to stand up for his employees. That’s what he did.

          • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 3:30 pm #

            He needs to learn how to pick his battles. Pence handled himself just fine.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

          You will make a fine dhimmi. Submission is the essence of Liberal White America. And unspeakable rage against Whites who refuse to.

          • 100th Avatar November 21, 2016 at 5:46 pm #

            Pence should have gone full pimp and bitch-slapped Lin-Manuel and company right back into their gender-fluid reality.

            Gangster style.

            Something the Trump haytas would ultimately respect… and post on Twitter and Facebook-Live and talk about at McDonald’s… you know, STBPL (stuff that black people like).

        • elysianfield November 21, 2016 at 7:10 pm #

          “I just wish, once in a while, somebody with some self-respect, style, and largeness of personality would ever make it to a high office.”

          You’re in luck! BBC reported this PM that retired four star USMC General James Mattis may be Trump’s pic for SecDef.
          Below is one of his memorable quotes;

          .”I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you [expletive] with me, I’ll kill you all.”

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:05 pm #

      Yes, if things keep on like this, Blacks will actualize believe the Founders were Black. And sadly, young Whites follow them in this, reveling in their own self abasement.

      • CancelMyCard November 21, 2016 at 5:30 pm #

        What is “actualize believe”?

        Is that some kind of Nazi/Klingon mind-meld trick?

        Janos, has the Alzheimers meds stopped working AGAIN?

        And please, get the nanny to wipe the drool from your whiskers.

        It’s sooo unbecoming.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 7:33 pm #

          In other words, the founders weren’t Black and didn’t think Blacks were our equals. Sorry you don’t know that – or probably, much of anything else.

        • WoozyCanary November 25, 2016 at 10:06 pm #

          He has trouble seeing the keyboard through his hood.

    • Elrond Hubbard November 21, 2016 at 7:39 pm #

      Lawfish: “I sincerely hope no conservative ever buys a ticket to that shit-show ever again. Then maybe those nitwits will realize it’s unwise to bite the hand that feeds them.”

      *snorts coffee through my nose*

      So far this year, Hamilton has grossed ~$92 million and counting.

      That puts them in second place for the year so far, just a whisker shy of The Lion King. Hamilton also enjoys both the highest average ticket price and highest top ticket price on Broadway by comfortable margins.

      So yeah, they’ll be totally crying in their beer. As plans go, that’s not quite as genius as the people who have been protesting Starbucks by driving <a href=""additional business to Starbucks under the name “Trump”, but it’s pretty clueless nonetheless.

      • Lawfish November 22, 2016 at 7:56 am #

        It never ceases to amaze me how people will pay good money to see some piece of propaganda garbage that tries to rewrite history so that the founders were black. I wouldn’t go to that shit-show if you paid me $400. People go to that side show so they can tell everyone they went to THE Broadway play.

        • Elrond Hubbard November 22, 2016 at 11:01 am #

          This is called missing the point. No actual human being comes away from Hamilton under the impression that the founders were African-American. If they did, then they had serious issues going in that had nothing to do with the show.

          I’m going to make the point clearly and distinctly, so there’s no missing it: the black experience is part of America. Much of what’s nastiest and most distressing in American history is the story of the relentless, malicious struggles by some white Americans to resist that fact, and we’re living through one of those moments now.

        • Josh November 22, 2016 at 11:12 am #

          Do you really think the message is that the founders were black? It’s not rewriting history, it’s color-blind casting, and Hamilton’s not the first show to do it. It’s a slight extension of the suspension of disbelief that all theater already requires. Most people’s brains are flexible enough to handle it without without being “propagandized.”

          • Lawfish November 23, 2016 at 12:58 pm #

            Sorry, but I refuse to apologize to people who didn’t experience slavery for enslavement I didn’t commit. But being a part of the only group of people it’s considered acceptable to hate in this country, I’m used to the expectations that I should feel guilt for being a heterosexual white male. As for theater such as Broadway, I find it all a complete waste of time, but the Hamilton bit seems to top the rest.

            Color-blind casting? What’s next, gender-blind casting? George Washington played by a black woman? No, wait, Kunta Kinte being played by an aging white woman! Liberal pandering tripe.

  3. routersurfer November 21, 2016 at 9:59 am #

    Four police officers shot this weekend. Events and history are running the show. I also have little hope anything but a new Dark Ages is at hand. Maybe all the hope visible is the Trump kids. A better crop than JEBs. I gave up the hope and change thing with the announcement of Joe Biden as VP. Thanks for a good Monday morning read Jim. I wonder what season we are heading into?

  4. Petro November 21, 2016 at 10:00 am #

    Another author who wrote about some of the points JHK makes about victimhood was the late Robert Hughes in his “Culture of Complaint.” It’s now out of print, but worth searching for in a used book store—to put alongside all of Kunstler’s books in your bookcase, of course!

    • routersurfer November 21, 2016 at 10:05 am #

      Thanks for the book referral. I wonder what direction JHK’s writing will take us next?

  5. Greg Knepp November 21, 2016 at 10:03 am #

    Somebody has appropriated my culture too, and am I pissed! Pants with zippers, television, antibiotics, offset lithography, electricity, computers, assembly line mass production, Beethoven, cheeseburgers, printed T-shirts…you get my drift.

    • routersurfer November 21, 2016 at 10:10 am #

      Got bitch slapped for being a white male a few times last week. People are ready to fight anything and everything. Wonder where President Trump will point them? Inside or outside our borders?

    • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 10:21 am #

      I witnessed a young woman explaining to the less Social Justice oriented, that it was okay for her to use the increasingly popular Day of the Dead makeup for Halloween, because she is a Latina.

      • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 10:43 am #

        That’s too bad. Why not, “Because it’s fun and doesn’t hurt anybody?”

      • uslabor November 21, 2016 at 12:31 pm #

        A Frida Kahlo dress would suit you just right, Beryl.

      • sooty November 21, 2016 at 2:30 pm #

        Yeah, but everybody dies. That’s been pretty globally appropriated.

        “Bone houses” in some Alpine countries hold the skulls of dead loved ones painted with flowers and the family name. Fortunately, the heads are big enough to fit the names.

  6. KK November 21, 2016 at 10:05 am #

    This was the best,

    “You’re offended? Suck an egg. Someone appropriated your culture? Go shit in your sombrero.”


    • routersurfer November 21, 2016 at 10:11 am #

      Jim nailed it!

    • Walter B November 21, 2016 at 10:57 am #

      In the old days, we were raised to the idea that “sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never hurt me”, an attitude which when adopted, armed us with the ability to get past the words and concentrate on the treatment instead. It was an acquired talent that allowed us to not fall for the line of shit but to see through it instead. Thanks to the success of the Technosphere, words (spin) are everything and the scammers and users have little trouble conniving the Average American Idiot into or out of just about any situation wrests the greatest profit or control from the masses.

      Perhaps the time has come for both the Democratic and the Republican parties to move into the State House in Albany and occupy the empty offices surrounding Lieutenant Governor Eugene Furman and allow the New Faith boys to start up a new paradigm, eh what?

    • uslabor November 21, 2016 at 12:26 pm #

      Jim can go piss in his kippa.

      • S M Tenneshaw November 21, 2016 at 6:39 pm #

        And you can suck my cock.

  7. RobH November 21, 2016 at 10:07 am #

    I am not sure what’s supposed to be wrong with a tattoo or an earring or long hair on a human being whatever label is applied to them. I like it myself when people are polite and civil and honest. If you are planning on returning to a smaller simpler world it would be better to not bring back the negative aspects of the past! The good aspects please. Let’s not have embittered people in unsuitable relationships being unpleasant to each other but all from a nice suit or dress

    • RobH November 21, 2016 at 10:08 am #

      Doesn’t mean people cant be bawdy and call an egg an egg mind you!
      Bit of rough and tumble is better than political correctness

    • shastatodd November 21, 2016 at 10:17 am #

      unfortunately, i think the thin veil of human civility is a relic of our luxurious past. declining net energy will forcibly remove entitled, non-negotiable lifestyles. this is unlikely to be pretty.

      will we go look in the mirror for the source of our problem? nope, blaming “them” is the new, popular meme. keeping your head down is pragmatic.

      • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 9:40 pm #

        Especially when there is a possibility of being “batch slapped for being a white guy”.

  8. routersurfer November 21, 2016 at 10:13 am #

    Screw political correctness. Can we just go back to manners?

    • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 10:31 am #

      Since people are actually killing each other today, over issues as trivial as ‘diverse’ opinions over proper etiquette, I believe a return to manners is an excellent idea.
      People forget, probably because history isn’t taught properly anymore, that ‘diverse’ cultures have clashed over seemingly small issues in our nation’s past.

      • capt spaulding November 21, 2016 at 11:03 am #

        Society would become more courteous, and manners would be more pronounced, if everyone were issued a sword. I’m not just saying that because I’m a fencer either.

        • j0nx November 21, 2016 at 11:27 am #

          I believe the old axiom is ‘an armed society is a polite society’ but I know how you liberals feel about guns and stuff here…

          • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 12:40 pm #

            That’s why the good Captain recommended swords. Eliminates drive-bys, ricochets, bullets through walls, etc. Takes a bit of skill, and a lot more commitment to the task.

          • greatbeard November 21, 2016 at 12:58 pm #

            We are already a well armed society, very well armed. And we are anything but a polite society. One more saying worth it’s weight in horse piss.

          • capt spaulding November 21, 2016 at 1:51 pm #

            Ever had your ass kicked by a liberal? It’s probably pretty humiliating.

          • routersurfer November 21, 2016 at 5:14 pm #

            I feel I am a good little socialist liberal and my firearms collection is very workable for the coming days. You can’t have a revolution without a rifle someone once said.

          • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 9:44 pm #

            “And we are anything but a polite society.”

            Get rid of concealed carry and require open carry. Then it will change. 

      • cbeard November 21, 2016 at 5:11 pm #

        Did you read about the Illinois politician whose grandson was shot recently. Supposedly over a pair of tennis shoes.

        • CancelMyCard November 21, 2016 at 5:38 pm #

          Tennis shoes?



          Hmmmm . . . .

          Probably more like some outlandish ghetto footwear that the pimp thought looked good that night.

  9. Daisy November 21, 2016 at 10:18 am #

    Here are some photos of Trump’s lovely boys, on some of their murder sprees of African animals.…

    Sure did bring ’em up right!

    I don’t think many people are really getting the depth of the racism and sexism that’s been unleashed by Trump. Those of us not in Trump’s favored race and gender are honestly afraid of having rights taken away. It’s not about political correctness. We fear going back to that “great” American where we were second-class citizens.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 10:33 am #

      I’m certainly not getting the sexism.
      Not getting the racism either.
      Why did Hillary have disgraced former Assemblyman Mark Alan Siegel in her employ? As someone who claims to care deeply about sexism, and also as a transplant New Yorker, it cannot be possible that she didn’t know who he is.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:12 pm #

        The new academic paradigm is that all Whites are racist. That was once an idea held by a few fanatics, but it’s popularized and foisted on all now. Right thinking Whites see it as a declaration of war. What else Could it be when you really think about it?

    • CancelMyCard November 21, 2016 at 5:41 pm #


      The sooner you rid yourself of the erroneous concept that

      you are a “precious, special, snowflake”

      the better off you will be.

      You are no more special than the rest of us.

  10. fodase November 21, 2016 at 10:35 am #

    it is liable to carry an inflationary bird flu that will end up killing money all around the world. We won’t be worrying about Trans Pacific Partnerships anymore because letters-of-credit will be unavailable to move large shipments of anything from Point A to Point B. How long after that will it be before the supermarket shelves empty down? And in the event, what will the dollar buy?

    oh right, this time it’s for real, the death of the economy.

    yep, money will be killed all around the world. cue jhk’s mad max delusions.

    Those of us not in Trump’s favored race and gender are honestly afraid of having rights taken away.

    try turning on reality now and then, you won’t be so scared.

    gosh, must be difficult having to face the prospect of the law being obeyed and enforced fairly.

    • elysianfield November 21, 2016 at 11:56 am #

      “Those of us not in Trump’s favored race and gender are honestly afraid of having rights taken away.”

      No, rights will not be taken away. Cheap, vacuous excuses and a sympathetic ear…those may be in short supply, however.

      • lsjogren November 21, 2016 at 1:25 pm #

        It strikes me as circular logic that the fact that leftists are scared out of their wits is proof that they have reason to be scared out of their wits.

        • lsjogren November 21, 2016 at 1:25 pm #

          Actually, they do have reason to fear their anarchist agenda will be on hold for 4 years.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:14 pm #

          And since their rights have already been taken away – otherwise they wouldn’t be afraid – they have the right to attack anyone who disagrees with them.

  11. Old Dog November 21, 2016 at 10:41 am #

    That Burning Platform is a bunch of self-serving drivel. So called revolutions have a way of eating their own. The Left is the least of Trump’s worries. His own party will impeach him if he gets in their way. The Grey Champion when they arrive will be someone outside the power structure.

  12. janet November 21, 2016 at 10:44 am #

    “Screw political correctness. Can we just go back to manners?” –routersurfer

    Yes. Can we all agree that grabbing pussies is not polite and not support anyone who brags about grabbing pussies? Daddy’s habit of sexual assault by grabbing pussies of young women is not good manners.

    • shotho November 21, 2016 at 10:55 am #

      Why not? Or is it now only acceptable for women to grab whatever they want?

    • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 11:01 am #

      A very outspoken feminist of my acquaintance is really disgusted that anyone would try to single out this particular instance of private behavior NORMAL IN CERTAIN CIRCLES against someone, for political reasons.
      She is way more concerned by the way women are losing ground, worldwide, and nobody talks about it, for instance.
      Where were you when German women were being blamed for getting grabbed against their will, at an outdoor celebration they used to be safe at?
      When the Globalist agenda runs up against women’s rights as human beings, Globalism prevails.

    • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 12:08 pm #

      As for “grabbing pussies” and talk like that, I’ve been in a lot of locker rooms. Yes, there would be talk like that. Usually a few guys would giggle uncomfortably. And then one of the older, more-respected guys would say, loudly but casually, “You talk different about ’em after you’ve actually touched one, fellas.” And that would be the end of that.

      Because, you know, real Alpha Males (or whatever cliched stereotype we’re referring to) actually like women. A lot. Go to a lot of trouble to get and stay on good terms with them. Wouldn’t squander the well-earned situation to pose and preen and show up the other guys.

      Priorities, people. Guys who talk like that show themselves for who they really are, to their own detriment.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

        Yeah that makes sense, but only partially. Trump has had many women and had had many women at the time he said that. Do you believe all bullies are actually weak cowards? Big mistake. Or that all braggarts are actually frauds? If you’ve been around successful people, you know otherwise.

        Yes, he was a bit of a lout and he wasn’t young either. But compare his record with Bill Clinton’s. He talked, Bill actually did. Where is the outrage? Outrage is almost completely a function of political expediency now. In other words, morality has now been weaponized.

    • routersurfer November 21, 2016 at 5:15 pm #

      Very true. Pardon my use of the S word.

  13. malthuss November 21, 2016 at 10:46 am #

    The Future is now, The Economist, 2017;

  14. malthuss November 21, 2016 at 10:47 am #

    One of the BIGGEST stories of this decade is ‘Podesta Gate’ aka ‘Pizza gate’ aka ‘Madeline Mc Cann’ and almost zero mention by JHK and commenters.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 11:12 am #

      I think people can’t or don’t want to believe that there is any validity to such a sordid tale.
      Only one way to find out, unfortunately we have maybe zero un-bought, unbiased “investigative reporters” remaining.
      The part about one Laura Silsby, we do know that happened, we saw that for ourselves. She’s the woman who took advantage of a disaster, the earthquake in Haiti, to run around snatching up Haitian children. We know for a fact that she lied about her motives; there can be no benign motive for pretending to be helping orphans while knowing full well you took these kids from their parents.
      What I didn’t know at the time, was that Hillary Clinton was instrumental in make sure Laura’s helpers got away scot free (slur intended, PC must die), and in helping Ms. Silsby get a light sentence. No wonder we never heard any more about it.
      I’ve seen pictures of Lady Gaga at one of the “spirit cooking” events, looking as if she wanted to throw up.
      This same woman claims to be in some sort of fear for all the women being harmed by Trump. Go figure.

    • Cactus Girl November 21, 2016 at 3:44 pm #

      I’ve been wondering about this myself. Last I heard, the NYC police were threatening to arrest her and her gang if nothing was done by the FBI. Then nada—no news about it at all. I suspect that this was the reason for Comey’s opening the investigation, and then closing it right before the election. I think a deal was made, something like: the democrats undo the vote stealing in certain key states to give Trump his actual vote count, there by enabling his electoral win. She gives up the presidency for her freedom, and the NYPD gives up prosecuting her to keep her out of the WH. Then she runs off to her palace in Qatar. That’s why those 3 states were uncounted for so long—they had to unfix the votes that were originally for her. I bet this is why she’s not fighting for her “popular” vote win, and why she cancelled her celebratory fireworks show 2 days before the election. She knew what was going to happen.

      • CancelMyCard November 21, 2016 at 5:56 pm #



        Please have your agent work extra hard on that

        “fictional current history”

        book deal

        you have been gnawing on for the past 7 months.


        come back with a just slightly better rewrite.

        It’s people like you that give REAL conspiracy theorists

        a bad name.

      • ffkling November 21, 2016 at 5:57 pm #

        “the democrats undo the vote stealing in certain key states…..”, complete nonsense. Show us the proof for your claim.

        • Cactus Girl November 21, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

          I don’t have any proof. It’s just my thoughts, pretty much based on how she fixed the results and stole the nomination from Bernie.

          • ffkling November 21, 2016 at 11:16 pm #

            While I applaud your honesty, the claim that HRC stole the election from Sanders is also false. I was by no means a Clinton enthusiast, although I voted for her in the general, but she won the nomination fair and square by accumulating more votes.

          • Cactus Girl November 21, 2016 at 11:33 pm #

            No, it wasn’t fair and square. There were many, many, documented instances of election fraud. So many, that polls were cancelled in California. There is still a lawsuit pending about this. There was lying about delegates acting violent. There were places where absentee ballots were thrown in the trash. Here in California, people who were registered as Democrats were suddenly UN-registered. It happened to both me and my boyfriend. In AZ, polling places were shut down all over the state and people were made to wait for hours in the hot sun. People saw machines flip their votes right in front of their eyes. Brooklyn was a fiasco. NY had every rural county vote for Bernie, EXCEPT the big cities. Every one. Rural areas are usually more conservative; if they voted for Bernie, you’re telling me the cities didn’t? It goes on and on. Fair and square it wasn’t.

            This site has pages and pages of documentation:

          • ffkling November 22, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

            Allegations do not equate with evidence. Let me know when you have definitive proof of voter fraud on the level necessary to tip the election. Further, I find it curious that Sen. Sanders refuses to support the claims you reference.

        • Cactus Girl November 22, 2016 at 9:29 pm #

          Oh, you must be a Hillbot. Or a troll. I get it now.

  15. venuspluto67 November 21, 2016 at 10:50 am #

    It’s highly possible that this was another election stolen by the Republicans. And I know I’m not saying anything new or shocking given recent history, but this election has turned so many people into such total Kool-Aid drinkers, that I’m sure some people will respond as if I have.

    But an election has to be very close in order to be stolen, so JHK’s criticisms of the Democratic Party in this election are still valid. (Though I doubt the neoliberal elites of the big coastal cities really care that much about PC identity politics, they just glommed onto it because they don’t really have anything else to offer.) So basically, the Democratic Party is becoming an irrelevant rump party because it doesn’t bring very much to the table at all, and they let the more dominant and aggressive Republicans steal elections from right out under their noses because they are resigned to their role as junior partners in the post-eighties neoliberal/ neoconservative consensus. Birthing the turkey of a healthcare reform-law that is the woefully misnamed Affordable Care Act is just the final nail in their coffin.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:25 pm #

      Right. And Trump supporters were the violent ones too, right? Going to Clinton and Bernie rallies and attacking people, right? Face the facts: Liberals hate White Americans and they’ve finally realized the extent of the war being waged against them. This is just the beginning. We have only just begun to fight.

      • Boiledfrog November 21, 2016 at 7:27 pm #

        “liberals hate white Americans”! I saw a similar one “environmentalist want to free the earth of human beings” or “Trump voters are racist fascist” got this one at church “people who don’t believe in God ….” I’ve got my own “all people who leave comments are ass holes” no need to prove me right.

        • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 9:53 pm #

          I love for legs.

          • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 9:56 pm #

            for = frog

      • venuspluto67 November 21, 2016 at 11:04 pm #

        Face the fact: Only in your twisted neo-nazi fantasy-worldview are all liberals social justice warriors. But what should I expect from the brilliant mind who brought us the idea that the USA is communist? (If the USA were really communist, then this blog and its comment-section would not be able to exist at all. Is your mind capable of perceiving any degree of nuance?)

        And BTW, the violent attacks on Trump rallies were Hillary’s shock-troops who were trying to make it seem as though the supporters of Bernie Sanders were doing this. Probably the only thing on which you and I will ever agree is how thoroughly awful that woman is.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 2:10 pm #

          And the morning after the horrible violence in Chicago which stopped a Trump rally – what did you Bernie say? “Good job every one.” The media played it down, but countless Trump supporters were attacked by Orcs and police as well.

          What else did your Bernie say? “Whites don’t know what it means to be poor” – a despicable lie. Remember Bluto, his roots are in Communism. And Communism chose to focus on attacking the White Race generations ago.

          • venuspluto67 November 22, 2016 at 11:19 pm #

            And the morning after the horrible violence in Chicago which stopped a Trump rally – what did you Bernie say? “Good job every one.”

            He said nothing of the sort.

    • venuspluto67 November 22, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

      Eric Draitser writing at manages to make the case rather more cogently than Greg Palast, who clearly doesn’t do interviews very well. The long and the short of it is that exit polls very reliably predict the winner when elections are being conducted fairly, and those who say otherwise either have a vested interest in covering up unfair elections or just want to believe that all is sweetness and light in the land of the free.

      I find it surprising that the Republican establishment would cheat Trump into the White House because they clearly detest him. This only lends plausibility to my working theory that a big and bad economic crash is coming, so the elites want to install Trump, keep things creaking along for a few months, then let it all come tumbling down so that they can blame the whole mess on Trump. Also, this whole election has been a complete Clusterfuck on this Nation (see what I did there, see what I did) in every possible way, that you may as well add the Republicans stealing it again to the list.

      And despite the fact that this election was probably stolen, I still think the “Special Snowflake Riots” are fucked up. 1) Beating up and terrorizing individual Trump supporters is not the answer and is also just plain wrong. 2) Demonstrations that are not part of a campaign of direct, grassroots political action are little more than mass temper-tantrums that simply come and go, as the demonstrators against Scott Walker’s union-busting policies in 2011 found out to their chagrin when they fastened their hopes onto the complacent, stupid, and corrupt Wisconsin Democratic Party.

      • Elrond Hubbard November 22, 2016 at 12:41 pm #

        Was the election stolen? It’s clear that the powers-that-be on the Democratic side had their collective thumb on the scale for Hillary. Bernie Sanders might have beaten her in a fair fight or he might not — we’ll never know. On the Republican side, Trump “stole” the nomination by showing up his opponents for the robot-drones they clearly were.

        As for electoral fraud, there’s a lot of heat on this (i.e. declarations of this or that kind of perfidy) but little light (actual documented cases of meaningful, large-scale voter fraud). These days, the big con games don’t happen at the ballot box. Today’s elites are much more sophisticated and work to ensure that unsuitable options (ones that serve anyone other than themselves) don’t get put before the people in the first place. As Chris Hedges put it, there is no way to vote against the interests of Goldman Sachs. Trump is the first candidate to beat the elites at their own game in a long, long time.

        • venuspluto67 November 22, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

          I think elections in this country should be conducted with paper-ballots only, in a very transparent manner so that the process is easy to audit. That way, you wouldn’t have all these questions about the legitimacy of elections undermining the constitutional representative system’s overall legitimacy.

  16. malthuss November 21, 2016 at 10:52 am #

    JHK- sacred identity grievances.

    Good one, Jim. The Democrats cater to ‘grievance groups.’
    And wetbacks.

  17. the camels bell November 21, 2016 at 10:55 am #

    Carl Jung in 1917, describing WWI, wrote:

    “This war has pitilessly revealed to civilized man that he is still a barbarian…But the psychology of the individual corresponds to the psychology of the nation. What the nation does is done by each individual, and so long as the individual does it, the nation also does it. Only the change in the attitude of the individual is the beginning of the change in the psychology of the nation.”

    The Psychology of the Unconscious Processes, Collected Works 7, p.4.

  18. TiredOfTheTreadmill November 21, 2016 at 10:56 am #

    My question is how much pain will Trump supporters take before abandoning him? This is a crowd the prizes loyalty over objectivity and who are willing to take a good dose of pain just to see the people they hate get it even worse than themselves. At least that’s what I have observed from this crowd over the years. Even here any criticism of Trump or speculation of his shortcomings are quickly addressed by the true believers.

    On the other hand, tolerance levels are maxed out these days and people may bail from the Trump bandwagon rather quickly. Trump may end up like W bUSHin 4 years in that you cannot find a person anywhere who will claim they voted for the guy. We shall see.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 11:20 am #

      I voted for him. I tend to object to criticism of the man when it is off the shelf, canned, talking point criticism, because that stuff would apply to anyone who stood up to the Globalists, it’s just that Trump is the only one.
      I didn’t vote for Bush. I didn’t vote for Obama either. I’m waiting for the Obama supporters to apologize for the harm they inflicted on their fellow Americans, via Obamacare, but many of them still believe it’s a wonderful thing, which Trump is going to ruin.Because that’s what they’ve been told to think. Even Bill Clinton can’t disabuse them of their delusion.
      I tell people who want to criticize me for my support of Trump, to get transcripts of his Trump the Establishment and Drain the Swamp speeches, READ THEM, and tell me what about them you find offensive.
      Trump talked about issues, Hillary talked about Trump.

      • Anotherplayaguy November 21, 2016 at 12:07 pm #

        Talk, as they say, is cheap. Political speeches even cheaper. Drain the swamp?? Look at who Trump is choosing for his cabinet and staff and tell me he isn’t creating a bigger swamp,.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

          I knew you’d say that.
          As I said, when people want to criticize me for my support of Trump, I tell them to read his speeches and tell me what they find offensive. That would be a starting point for a reasonable discussion, wouldn’t it? Otherwise it degenerates into throwing ‘cheap’ cliches around and making broad and arrogant assumptions about the motivations of people who have a different opinion than yours.

          • uslabor November 21, 2016 at 12:44 pm #

            beryl of oyl is lecturing others about “making broad and arrogant assumptions about……people…who have a different opinions….”

            Good for him.

          • Anotherplayaguy November 21, 2016 at 7:26 pm #

            You really think reading his speeches is better than watching his actions? Almost anybody can read a teleprompter and recite what others have written.
            Just watch that swamp get drained.,

      • Buck Stud November 21, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

        I won’t disagree about Obamacare in general, although it has specific aspects which are good and which Trump has recognized–the pre-existing condition clause for one thing.

        But it never really worked out all that well. An individual can be forced to purchase a high deductible Silver plan for 400-500 plus dollars a month and spend nearly 10-12 thousand dollars out of pocket before the actual insurance kicks in: wash, rinse, repeat for the next calendar year.

        So a really pragmatic individual all will plan all illnesses to occur in one calendar /s.

        But there is a larger context and that was the private health insurance model was in a death spiral well before “Obamacare”. Fewer people were able to afford insurance due to the recession, employers dropping insurance plans and shifting workers to sole-proprietor/contract labor status, global off shoring, etc,etc,etc–thus insurance companies raised rates on those still buying insurance ensuring even fewer people able to afford the plans and around and around it goes in a death spiral.

        So let’s not misrepresent the health care/insurance problem that arose solely because of “Obamacare”.

        Another place to look–and JHK has bemoaned this aspect many times in the past–is why do doctors and hospitals need to charge so much money?

        • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 10:01 pm #

          The question I ask before that one is Why are we all so sick?

      • SteveO November 21, 2016 at 4:26 pm #

        I didn’t vote for him, but unlike Dumbia, I’m willing to give him a chance.

        What concerns me at the moment is that he appears to surrounding himself with Republican party cast-offs and has-beens.

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but my impression of Trump supporters is that they want change. The faces that are being paraded by don’t exactly appear fresh to me.

        • Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 7:10 pm #

          The faces that are being paraded by don’t exactly appear fresh to me. – SteveO


          Speaking of which, earlier today I saw footage of Christie shaking hands with Trump and waving to the public before they disappeared into the inner sanctum, presumably to talk about a position for CC in the new administration.

          As Christie turned to go through the doorway I noticed his ass is still as yooge as Kim K’s. What’s up wit dis? I thought he was supposed to have had his stomach tied off.

        • elysianfield November 21, 2016 at 7:20 pm #

          ” The faces that are being paraded by don’t exactly appear fresh to me.’

          The faces do not necessarily have to be fresh…they DO, however, have to obey orders….

    • cbeard November 21, 2016 at 5:41 pm #

      What pain? I’m still giddy with excitement that he won despite all the rank and file reboobicans and the media against him in the primary debates.Perhaps a 3rd party may eventually come from this. Again, what pain. I hope Trump does much better than expected, but I really don’t give a shit if he doesn’t. I’m looking out for number one and all my friends and family first anyway. I’ll never deny voting for him twice, as it kept the hag and the G.O.P. establishment goons out of the white house.

  19. swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 10:58 am #

    Both major parties have the same problem, but because they fish in different areas of the pond, it looks a little different.

    The problem is that neither party has a coherent ideology. No philosophy, no values. Just tactics. And both parties find themselves without values for the same reasons. They’re both corporate entities, run more or less by marketing experts. When you’re marketing a product that has no self-defining characteristics–on purpose–all you’re left with is Identity.

    Look at our society. It’s all “Identity,” and no substance. Not just Identity Politics, which we’ve all identified. Look at marketing and advertising. There aren’t any truly new products or services out there, so they differentiate themselves by selling Identity. I saw an Amazon ad on TV yesterday that told a story of the friendship between two elderly men, one a Catholic priest and one a Muslim imam. It was a nice little story but it had nothing to do with Amazon. We all know what Amazon is so there’s no point telling that story; let’s tell a story that’s nice enough as it is, give it “meaning” and “depth” by making the old men seem like odd friends because of Identity.

    That’s what Marketing does. It solves problems. It tries to find a reason for people to buy a product, and if it can’t find any, it keeps looking until it finds a story that gets people to identify with, and insinuates the product. One of the impotence pills, I think it’s Cialis, is selling not the reality of middle-aged impotence and why that might be happening, but platonic lovers in bathtubs. Auto manufacturers don’t sell overpriced and overly-complicated cars that are hell to maintain, but clean and joyful families. I’ve always thought a great ad would be to show a beautiful woman, obviously naked, sleeping on one side of a rumpled bed with that “golden time” morning sun streaming in, and the sound of a shower running off-camera. Then the “Folgers” logo appears. That’s all. Nothing about the coffee. Sell having sex with a beautiful woman and getting up first, showering and then making coffee for her and yourself. I’d buy that. Hell, I did buy that. Best purchase I’ve ever made.

    So the Democrats have eschewed any and all traces of values and philosophy and have embraced Identity to the point that they can no longer Identify who they are, what they believe in and most of all, why anyone should vote for them. Now the Republicans, similarly devoid of ideas, have gained a Pyrrhic victory by selling Identity Politics for White People. Much joy may it bring them, and us.

    Identity isn’t an aspirational goal. It’s a necessity, but it’s something you have to have of your own, not what you want to achieve. It shows the true uselessness and utter futility of our current political system that Identity is all they’ve got on offer. So, great. Marketing can analyze us and break us all down into our little Identity niches, and then try to sell us things.

    That’s OK for a business that needs to sell things. That’s not OK for a nation that needs to get its head on straight and deal with End Of An Era problems, to get an idea what to do next in a world where the old solutions don’t work anymore.

    • Buck Stud November 21, 2016 at 2:50 pm #

      Not to miss your larger point which was very articulate and thoughtful but there is a lot of reasons why middle age impotence happens and I detect a sort of blame-the-patient vibe as if an all vegan diet might cure what ails them, for example.

      Cialis, Viagra, Levitra are wonderful, dare I say miraculous products that bring joy and happiness to people’s lives…and yes many of them are ‘the guy next door’.

      • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 3:35 pm #

        I didn’t mean to imply that impotence isn’t a real issue for many (crosses fingers, knocks on wood–no pun intended). Sorry if that’s what came across. I was talking about the marketing angle, and how they choose to present the product for sale.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:32 pm #

      It’s a return to normalcy. Normal people prefer their own and look out for their own interests. Whites were willing to look out for the rights of others and got taken to the cleaners, with affirmative action now extended to Black Africans off the boat, Mexican immigrants, etc.

      Now we’re starting to care about ourselves again – just like everyone else. How is it that you just brush that aside? White dispossession is the very essence of the corrupt American System. Well, we say No More. And yes, it may well mean the end of America as it is currently governed and shaped.

      • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 10:14 pm #

        I saw this somewhere the other day and thought it worth saving:

        “After Trump’s victory I realized one thing. We are NOT the Right. Not the neocon trotskyite “Right”, not the extreme Right and not the Alt-Right. We’re simply the Normals. The people who do NOT beat up other people for disagreeing with us. Who accept that we are what our sexual organs indicate we are. Who accept, and have always accepted, the results of democratic elections, whether they go in our favour or not.

        We have made many mistakes, among them the very worst, non plus ultra, is that we’ve allowed for the freaks to define us. If you allow someone utterly crazy to define your reality the result will be chaos and death. Read up on the crazy Roman emperors for hints..”

        • Elrond Hubbard November 22, 2016 at 12:47 am #

          messianicdruid: “We’re simply the people … who accept that we are what our sexual organs indicate we are.”

          Almost all of us enjoy the good fortune of a gender identity consonant with what other people see when they look at us. We can “accept” that we are what our sexual organs indicate we are, because why the heck wouldn’t we?

          And then there are some of us who are different. Not confused. Different. JHK can insist all he wants on the term “sexual confusion” (he uses it again today) for gay people, and for people whose minds understand something different about themselves than their bodies advertise to the world. But I will insist right back that he needs to listen to what they are saying for themselves. The same goes for anyone who practices rejectionism and exclusion of people who don’t fit the gender binary: they need to inform themselves.

    • michael November 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm #

      Get rid of your TV, it is a means of mind control.

      • Elrond Hubbard November 22, 2016 at 4:37 pm #

        “I am gross and perverted. I’m obsessed and deranged.
        I have existed for years, but very little has changed.
        I’m the tool of the government, and industry too,
        For I am destined to rule and regulate you.

        “I may be vile and pernicious, but you can’t look away.
        I make you think I’m delicious with the stuff that I say.
        I’m the best you can get. Have you guessed me yet?
        I’m the slime oozing out from your TV set.”

        — F. Zappa

  20. amb November 21, 2016 at 11:03 am #

    Trump may surprise the people in many ways. May turn out to have much more substance and character than we think. May turn out to be a President that actually leads. Fresh blood that rises to the occasion. A new paradigm in government… a non-politician. Might begin the cycle of repairing our sick country’s general mindset along with our infrastructure. Lots of headwinds will be in his path. We are moving into dire circumstances. This is when a person really shines. Structures are unraveling, new structures are in the process of being built, old more workable structures may be re-implemented, etc. The spirit of man, the survival instinct of man, the goodness in man all still exist. There are a lot of dynamics in motion domestically and globally; so many variables and unturned corners. One can only speculate upon the future and can not in any way be accurate in their predictions. I’m hoping for the best and preparing for the worst.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 11:23 am #

      But, but… he has CHARACTER FLAWS! His hair is funny! And, worst of all, he said p*ssy, eleven years ago!

      • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 12:12 pm #

        The hair bothers me a lot more than the vulgarity. They’re symptoms of the same complete lack of self-respect, though, which is the most dangerous aspect of Trump. He’ll do absolutely anything for male approval.

        I’m serious, that guy’s father must have been a bastard among bastards. Trump acts like a classic grown man who was cruelly abused emotionally as a child.

        The hair is a dead giveaway. Anybody with any self-respect would just buzz it down short with a #1 or #2 clipper and call it a day. “Yes, god-dammit, I have male pattern baldness. And 10 billion dollars, and a hot wife. All in all, pretty good deal. Now, what were you saying?”

        And no petty tweeting in the middle of the night about people you lose time and money even thinking about.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 12:29 pm #

          He’s worn his hair funny since long before it started thinning. I think he believes it looks good.
          Don’t all men who run for president have some kind of issue with their father?
          Donald is not the junior in his family. He’s the second son, and his brother died young from alcoholism. That has to affect a man. I’m not a man, so I don’t pretend to understand the father/son/brother dynamic.
          Obama was abandoned by both parents.
          I don’t know why I’m getting into this.

          • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 12:47 pm #

            Oh, this sort of thing is wildly overplayed by hobbyists, of course. But it is an interesting thing to consider; why do some of us gravitate to public life, where others of us couldn’t be dragged into it by a team of horses.

            I have found as I grow older that most pop psychology is either fatuous baloney, or more or less irrelevant to the task of getting on with things. But the problem of personal insecurity is real. It’s taken me 50 years to begin to see patterns in the problems I have with people.

            I generally get along with everybody, but when I think of the situations where I have had issues that aren’t otherwise obvious (like, when I screwed up, or the other person screwed up, or we were competing for the same thing, or whatever), I’m finally seeing some patterns. Of course my wife had to point it out to me. It’s insecure people. People who are afraid they’re about to be exposed as frauds. People who can’t enjoy or learn from their successes, much less their failures.

            Trump’s one of the more obvious of these that has come to the fore recently. I’m not saying he can’t be effective, or even use it to great good. I’m just saying I think it bears watching, and I’m keeping an eye out for it, as a part of my continuing personal education if nothing else.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:35 pm #

            A loveable foible, nothing more. Trump is very attracted to glamour and wanted to be a professional athlete or a movie star at various time in his youth. But instead, he found a way to integrate this with his Real Estate career and pleasing his father.

    • elysianfield November 21, 2016 at 12:07 pm #

      Well said. We have a chance, a thin chance, in Trump and should run with it. To those who disagree, I would posit…”what else ya got?”

    • Buck Stud November 21, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

      As always, the tricky area is in the transition zones. For example:

      Roofing companies A, B and C both have the same number of illegal workers employed and both paying are the same ‘going rate’ for their illegal workers.

      Not to be ironic or cute, but there now exists a sort of “Mexican Standoff” dynamic occurring as in the first company to start obeying the law and not using illegal labor loses as a result of being priced out of the current market, if only for a short while. The problem is “that short while” can devastate and destroy a small business in the’ transition zones’.

      Multiply and amplify the effects over entire industries and one can see that this is very tricky indeed, the transition from one employment/labor model to the next.

      • chet_the_farmer November 21, 2016 at 3:59 pm #

        You touched on the problem, but need a solution.

        It bothers me that a company which is know to have illegal workers can get business from We The People.

        You mention three theoretical companies, but most of us know of a few Real companies that have illegal workers.

        And yet we hire those companies without question.

        Well, I have never worked with a company that has illegal workers, but it is a very difficult process to find someone without illegals.

        When you hire a company for anything do you ask if they have illegal workers, and workers that do not speak or understand English?

        I do, and 80% of the time they admit they have these felons and do not get my business. And I make it clear to the company management in writing WHY they will not get my business.

        I tell all vendors that my home insurance will not cover foreigners or illegals, and that all people on-site must CLEARLY speak AND UNDERSTAND English.
        Again, about 80% of the companies I call are honest that they cannot meet these requirements.

        But when I write or call someone about the business using illegals, NOTHING EVER HAPPENS!

        We The People need to keep all u.s. businesses honest.

        DEMAND u.s. citizens Only!

        (P.S. I live in a rural area, so don’t push that crap about ‘the jobs that no one else will do’ because out here in flyover country, there are thousands that would do any job which was near home and out of a major city.)

    • SteveO November 21, 2016 at 4:31 pm #

      Sure hope so, but I haven’t seen a lot of fresh faces going in for interviews at Trump Tower. Mostly washed up Republicans like Romney and Giuliani and fat-boy Christy.

      Pence isn’t exactly a monument to originality. His state is almost as retrograde as Kansas.

  21. FincaInTheMountains November 21, 2016 at 11:04 am #

    A very important symbolic fact is that at the insistence of Donald Trump’s Republican convention to nominate its candidate for the US presidency ended with collective prayer led by Archbishop Demetrios of Greek Orthodox Church in America.

    And now not too religious Jew Bernie Sanders, symbolizing Western Red Project, already stated his willingness to cooperate with Trump, whose daughter converted to Judaism in order to marry a religious Jew.

    It is noteworthy that Sanders is very close to the Pope, and immediately after the primaries in New York, Bernie Sanders flew to Rome. A vice-president Mike Pence belongs to the “Tea Party”, and at the beginning of the campaign supported the candidacy of Ted Cruz, who in 2000 provided legal support to the campaign of George W. Bush, who represents Western White Project. Thus, Sanders can be a bridge between Trump and Western Red Project and Mike Pence is already a bridge between Trump and White Project.

    Meanwhile, Trump during a televised debate, in response to a question about the merits of his opponents mentioned her outstanding fighting qualities. And do not doubt is that he understands intensity of struggle for inglorious end of the political career of Hillary Clinton will reach now, before the US Congress approves his appointees to the highest public offices. After all, both houses of Congress are controlled by Republicans, and the first appointments showed that Trump’s alliance with White Project has already taken place, and he was able to convey to the Bush clan and the “Tea Party” his understanding of the moment.

    No wonder that, as shown by the Sunday interview with the leader of the democratic opposition in the Senate Schumer, plan Hillary not to let Trump into the White House by forcing electors to “change” the results of voting, after the “betrayal” by Obama, who remained faithful to the oath of US President rather than to Wicked Witch of the West, moved into the category of “wishful thinking”.

    A comparison of Schumer interview and NBC interview with Bernie Sanders inevitably leads to the conclusion that the leadership of the US Democratic Party is already beginning to understand that Hillary Clinton led the party to a disaster, and they “do not see a way out of this situation.”

    And most of all they are afraid of Sanders alliance with Trump which on the electoral level has already become a fact. And at the level of statements by Bernie Sanders agreed to cooperate with Donald Trump sounded loud and clear in the form of short “yes” in response to the NBC question, which a tricky beast Bernie Sanders unsuccessfully tried to bury by reproaches toward Trump.

    Thus, from a religious point of view, we are witnessing the formation of the union of Red and White Western Projects with European Judaism and crypto-Orthodoxy against Western Black Project. Last time such situation occurred February 14, 1130, when the grandson of a Jewish banker Perleoni Pietro, was elected a Pope, also known as Anacletus II. Then the Black Project had won in the end, Anacletus II was deposed and poisoned in 1137 and in 10 years has led to anti-Orthodox and anti-Slav Wendish crusade, and in a few decades – the fourth crusade that destroyed the Orthodox Byzantine Empire, as well as the invasion by Genghis Khan.

    And the fact that now the situation is repeated so accurately says that it is created not by the parties or by the people, but by Historical Forces that have much higher longevity than human life, and we are witnessing an end of complete historical cycle which is much longer than a hundred years.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 11:28 am #

      I always wondered why Bernie didn’t turn around and endorse Trump, after all the evidence of what the Democrats did to him.
      Then I saw an email which referred to “leverage” on Bernie.

      • SteveO November 21, 2016 at 4:37 pm #

        Basically the Democrats promised to spend whatever it cost to get him out of the Senate if he didn’t play along.

        It’s the same reason no one ran against Obama in 2008. If you remember, Obama wasn’t exactly stellar in the polls at the time. The DNC, under control of Hillary Clinton, by her proxy Debby Wasserman Shultz, told any prominent Democrat who though of running they could kiss their careers goodbye if they ran.

    • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 10:23 pm #

      What is “Western White Project”?

  22. fodase November 21, 2016 at 11:08 am #

    Bash Trump all you want, we can take it, we’re the adults that are taking away your stoopid lefty toys like pc idiocy and insane immigration / racialization nonsense.

    He grabbed pussy, so what. You want perfection, vote for Jesus. Who hasn’t grabbed pussy, it’s part of life.

    Women grab cock. We like it when they do, and they like it when we do.

    What, are you going to feign your indignation now, janet?

    Who’s complaining, by the way? Only complainers I saw were the lying women who came forward 20 years after the alleged event, conveniently after being paid $150k by, of course, some retarded leftists who support women-killing mohammedans yet claim Trump is against women!

    haha, you can’t get more contradictory in your beliefs lol…

    • Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 11:34 am #

      Interestingly enough, even after the NYT declared their intention to abandon any pretense of objectivity, and focus on digging up dirt on Donald, they were unable to find these women.
      The People reporter said she told her editor at the time. I never did see an interview with that ‘witness’.
      As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, Trump’s remarks referred to behavior which is considered normal in certain circles. You wouldn’t believe how many people who know this try to pretend that they don’t.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:39 pm #

        Your last sentence is gold. Fake outrage is a huge part of the Liberal Project. It is our Communism, home grown. And every Human Resource Bitch is a commissar. As is every TV anchor.

      • michael November 22, 2016 at 4:25 pm #

        What sort a society is it where somemone records someone else in the locker room, then keeps the recording for 11 years?

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:40 pm #

      These women are really offended that they didn’t end up being Mrs Donald J Trump. They want to BE Melania, but he didn’t call back. Sorry bitches.

  23. amb November 21, 2016 at 11:34 am #

    The Dems are analogous to a mis-trained, undisciplined, tantrum throwing, spoiled brat. They will continue on in this mode forever. A good spanking, a lecture, banishment to their bedroom, etc. to set them straight, as to the behaviour required if they want to socialize and be a constructive member of the household and an asset to the family, is the ticket. Then, once the conditions and statistics improve in our country, they will see that they were young, foolish, immature and on the wrong path; and, were assertive in their misguided ideologies to the detriment of everyone concerned. Some good history lessons, true statistics, lessons in critical thinking and fact checking would aid them tremendously as well. It all comes down to statistics. Forget the PR, rhetoric, lies (Obama, etc.) and so on… the true statistics tell the story as to who and what improves or worsens conditions.

  24. Beryl of Oyl November 21, 2016 at 11:45 am #

    Congratulations to Kellyanne Conway on her historic first. Sometimes the right man for the job is a woman, as Donald Trump knows.

  25. janet November 21, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

    Happy bnaibrithday to Q. … 76.

  26. Sean Coleman November 21, 2016 at 12:13 pm #

    Donald Trump’s vulgarity. I posted the following in another blog because I happened to have been reading it at the time. Nobody said anything then and I doubt anyone will now either, not that I blame them.

    The Czech author Milan Kundera writes, in his Le Rideau, that kitsch is a word which originated in Munich in the mid-19th century and describes the syrupy residue left by the Great Romantic Century which dominated Germany and Central Europe where, in the end, there built up a great resentment towards ‘the rose-coloured veil thrown across reality’, the tyranny of the tenors, the shameless exhibition ‘du coeur sans cesse ému’, bread on which perfume has been poured. The French, he said, never developed this acute aversion to kitsch and translated the word as ‘tat’. In the intellectual salons of France the ultimate aesthetique evil was, and remains, not kitsch but vulgarity.

    Kundera then discusses Camus who, after Sartre’s political savaging and the envy and hate he earned from his Nobel Prize, had to live with the contempt of the Parisian intellectuals. It was made worse by the marks of vulgarity he carried on his person: poor origins, illiterate mother, a pied noir sympathizing with other pieds noirs, his philosophical dilettantism. He is a peasant in his Sunday best, gloves in hand, his hat still upon his head, entering for the first time the salon. The others turn away: they know who they are dealing with. Not only did he not know what he should think (he did not praise progress and sympathized with the Algerian French) but he behaved badly in the salons: he was vulgar.

    In Kundera’s view there is no worse aesthetic fault. As Barbey d’Aurevilly, France’s leading literary critic of the time, wrote, “[Flaubert’s] L’Éducation Sentimentale is characterized mainly by vulgarity. In our opinion there are already enough vulgar souls in the world, vulgar spirits, vulgar things, without adding to the overwhelming flood of disgusting vulgarity.”

    “I remember the first weeks of my emigration,” writes Kundera. “Stalinism had already been condemned universally, everyone was ready to understand the tragedy which the Russian occupation represented for my country and saw me in a halo of respectable sadness. I remember sitting in a bar facing a Parisian intellectual who had supported me and helped me a lot. It was our first meeting in Paris and I could see great words floating in the air above us: persecution, Gulag, liberty, exile from your native land, courage, resistance, totalitarianism, police terror. Wishing to dispel the kitsch of these solemn spectres I began to explain that the fact of being followed, of having police bugging of our flats, had taught us the delicious art of hoaxing. A friend of mine and myself and swapped flats and identities; he, a great ladies man, supremely indifferent to the microphones, had realized his greatest exploits in my studio. Given that the most difficult moment in of every histoire amoreuse is the breaking off, my emigration came at just the right time for him. One day, les demoiselles et les dames having found the apartment closed, and without my name, I was in the act of sending, from Paris and bearing my own signature, little letters of goodbye to seven women I had never seen.

    “I wanted to amuse this man who was so dear to me but his face darkened and he said to me (and it was like the blade of a guillotine), “I don’t think that is funny.”

    “We remained friends without becoming close. The memory of our first meeting serves as a key to understand our long unstated dissension: what separated us was the collision of two aesthetic attitudes: the man allergic to kitsch coming up against the man allergic to vulgarity.”

    Actually in my experience an insistence on etiquette is an extravert trait. I remember growing up in the early seventies (I was twelve in 1970) all kinds of strange ideas were taking hold: divorce, drugs, an unstated (and very much stated as well) prohibition on this new word ‘judgmental’, obsession with television, and a softer approach towards crime. These are just a few things that spring to mind. But what exercised most older people was long hair.

    • Sean Coleman November 21, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

      Correction: “In Kundera’s view there was no worse aesthetic fault “in France”.

    • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 12:59 pm #

      It’s too bad Kundera’s friend was so caught up in his own sensibilities he couldn’t understand what Kundera was trying to communicate.

      Personal aesthetics are very situational. It takes a certain level of comfort and security to find vulgarity to be a primary menace. And to embrace kitsch.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:44 pm #

      Kundera said that Culture is a war between memory and forgetting. Americans have forgotten everything they ever were. Fascism is simply remembering again. And National Socialism is remembering even better, down to the cells and the very earth. Blue Jays don’t date Crows after all….

      • CancelMyCard November 21, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

        Ahhh, Janos,

        Still off the Alzheimers meds again, we see.

        Take that photo of Joseph Goebbels off your mantel

        one more time again . . .

        kiss it lovingly, but mind that spittle flowing off your

        whiskers, lest the nannie

        has to wipe it off your precious photo once again,

        before putting you back in your daybed for the

        rest of the afternoon.

      • Elrond Hubbard November 21, 2016 at 8:05 pm #

        The American idea is this: That all men are created equal. There aren’t different kinds of people fit for different kinds of law. There is one kind of person and one law for all. As long as it has remembered this principle and fought to live by it, America has remembered itself and grown to be a more perfect union. To forget this is to abandon what America sought to be and revert to the darkness that came before.

        • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 10:34 pm #

          You are forcing it a bit. We are all equal before the law = the American ideal. But this has been corrupted by trying to make everyone appear equal in attributes, gifts, callings, productivity, opportunity, diligence, on and on…

  27. jacobm36 November 21, 2016 at 12:14 pm #

    Wow. I can’t believe it. JHK has finally gone completely off of his fucking rocker. I’ve been reading this blog for 10 years now and have come to see Mr. Kunstler as an indespensible voice of reason during this time. But it seems his conversion to full on angry old white man is now complete. He seems hellbent on tirelessly trying to hang the turd of political correctness over the Dems as if it is even close to the most important or prescient item on their agenda. Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Keith Ellison, none of these folks exist. The Democratic party is just all identity politics. Mr. Kunstler, I implore you: come back! We need you so right now.

    • Sean Coleman November 21, 2016 at 12:27 pm #

      Political correctness will be the most important thing for them if they are anything like our politicians in Europe. And most people too. We got if from America so we can only hope to get rid of it if America does so first.

      What things do you think are bigger priorities for the Democrats then? Political correctness is the new code for living. It is oppressive, self-contradictory from top to bottom (because it is made up as we go along), self-regarding, self-congratulatory and stoopid.

      Jim is right in saying that many people look like they have just woken up from a dream or fantasy. (He has said this before, many times, and it is one of the reasons I read him because it demonstrates insight.)

      • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

        Identity Politics, and “Political Correctness” which is its corollary, requires a certain level of comfort to take priority. It also takes a lack of ideology or well-formed values. Reactionary impulses require the same thing. If you know what you stand for, you don’t get caught up in such things; they come along naturally. Whenever I encounter someone hung up on made-up pronouns I know I’m dealing with someone who has no idea who they are and what they stand for, and is distracted by minutiae with no sense of purpose.

        It takes a pretty comfortable society to keep alive people so bereft and ill-suited for survival. If you have what it takes to be self-sustaining, and have a point in mind, you’re a lot less concerned about other people’s opinions and details of how they express themselves. And when they don’t think and speak the way you wish they would, it doesn’t hurt you so much, if you’ve got something meaningful of your own you’re working toward.

        For all the dismay expressed about silly teens and twenty-somethings trying on preposterous ideas and generally showing the callowness of their youth, as callow youths will, the point is being missed. Why don’t these young people have something more important to work on? Could it be that our society has commoditized everything else, so all that’s left is to commoditize ourselves and bicker over pronouns?

        • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:49 pm #

          Identity Politics is normal. Political Correctness is the process of snookering Whites to give up theirs in favor of others. Got it? I mean when we ask for our rights, it’s not PC, is it? But when other groups demand their rights – and more than their rights, it is.

          • CancelMyCard November 21, 2016 at 7:32 pm #

            Here’s Janos blubbering yet again.


            Hork that slimeball of phlegm at the back of your throat,

            sit up on your daybed,

            wipe the drool and spittle from your whiskers,

            and SPEAK, gentle fool, speak

            what left you have of your desiccated mind

            before you float off into oblivion.

            Make Himmler proud before you croak,

          • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 7:39 pm #

            You ridicule me because you cannot refute me. Too late schlomo, the cat is out of the bag. The People are Awake and the Tree of Liberty is thirsty.

          • Elrond Hubbard November 21, 2016 at 8:11 pm #

            Like so many of his white supremacist brethren in the afterglow of the Trumpfuckery, Janos is feeling feisty and liberated enough to sling racial epithets more freely and indulge fantasies of redemptive violence more openly.

        • Sean Coleman November 22, 2016 at 12:08 pm #


          Your point about people not knowing who they really are is well observed. This is in my opinion a basic extravert problem. I am an introvert and most likely in a pronounced minority here, like most blogs, and I have always assumed that you yourself are an extravert. We know so little of the world but we know who we are without getting out of bed. The Beatles, for example, all extraverts, travelled to an ashram in India to ‘find themselves’.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

      None of them exist? What does that mean?

      • jacobm36 November 21, 2016 at 6:01 pm #

        I’m being sarcastic you racist imbecile. It quite obviously means that these are all intelligent individuals whom are able to articulate liberal policies which are quite easy to ascertain and quite separate from PC identity politics. But you would never be interested in policy anyways, you would lose on those merits. So you result to the tired old garbage race baiting nonsense that you’re putrid party spews endlessly,. Fuck off Janos. I have nothing to say to your kind. Your overreach will expose your complete lack of any intelligible policy beyond blatant racism. This will ensure you and your kind wind up getting flushed down the toilet bowl of historical relevance. I can’t wait….

        • monkey_flower November 21, 2016 at 6:42 pm #

          Reason is dead. If by “reason” you mean liberal groupthink.

          Try to look past the window dressing.

          There was a sea change. Everyone here felt it happen. I will spell it out in Plain English. White people have decided that the Earth is not over-populated. It is simply over-populated with everyone who is not White.

          Resource depletion, climate change, feelings, democracy- these things are no longer worth discussing.

          Keep in mind that this turn of events was by no means inevitable. I’m as surprised as anyone that it actually happened.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 7:48 pm #

            White Americans believed all that and stopped having many children. Other sectors didn’t know or care, but couldn’t afford to. So what did the Elite do? Bring in a hundred million fast breeders to breed on our dime – and counting. And the Environmentalists, those High Priest of the Goddess Religion? They have no problem whatsoever with it.

            Monk, we’d have to be insane to believe anything these people say now. Anything. And btw, Conservatives began the Conservation Movement. Sane Liberals picked up the baton, yes, but the insane have taken over the Party now.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 7:44 pm #

          Well said. Bill Ayers estimated twenty five million White Americans would have to be put to death in the end. A madman as well as a terrorist? Then why after getting out of prison was he given a job at a University?

          The media has covered all of this up, but we’re getting the word out. And unlike the White Christian Russians, we are heavily armed. Yes, you kicked our ass in the culture war, but you never succeeded in disarming us. And that’s what matters in the end. You’re out of time and you have failed.

        • Sean Coleman November 22, 2016 at 7:57 am #

          Jacob, you say, “liberal policies… are quite easy to ascertain and quite separate from PC identity politics.”

          The expression ‘identity politics’ is a new one on me. I hear it all around me nowadays but I suspect that it came upon us suddenly.

          But political correctness is our rules for life, just like Christianity was in the past, so I don’t see how liberalism can be distinguished from it. It is hugely self-contradictory and it is getting worse because they (and I don’t mean ‘we’ here) are making it up as they go along. Its only bit of coherence results from its conscious rejection of the old values.

          So when someone up-thread says that liberals in large cities are only playing along with it, or have ‘glommed’ onto it (I only ever came across that word in James Ellroy) I don’t agree. People, probably most people, really do believe in it. It might suit their purposes for building a career or getting on in the media or academia, and probably by now in every walk of life, but this would not be the primary reason. The primary reason they believe in PC is because they do. (I think it is an emotional belief.)

          I have never been to America and I get most of my understanding of what people think from this blog, but I can speak for Ireland and, I suppose (though I left it nearly 30 years ago), England. There cultural values have moved an extraordinary distance towards the left in a short period, and what is now commonplace would have been seen as extreme, even dangerous, when I still lived in England, and what was then commonplace and common sense is now regarded as dangerously rightwing, reactionary or even (the Lord spare us) ‘fascist’.

          • Elrond Hubbard November 22, 2016 at 1:30 pm #

            In the early 1940s, James Burnham wrote The Managerial Revolution in which he identified a newly emerged managerial class as engaging in a “drive for social dominance, for power and privilege, for the position of ruling class.” If we accept his analysis, it’s the managers and professionals who have dominated U.S. society throughout the post-WWII period. The Democratic party in particular has represented basically no one except these managers and professionals at least since the election of Bill Clinton. That was the point when the Democrats turned away from representing organized labour and no longer felt the need to concern themselves with the well-being of ordinary Americans.

            Political correctness as we have known it is a preoccupation of the managerial and professional class. Seeking inclusion for marginalized groups is something they saw as proper and virtuous, and since they had their hands on the levers of power they didn’t see it as a threat to their own interests. So once they had what they wanted for themselves, they approached the problems of groups they deemed to be marginalized in the manner of managers and professionals: by creating rules and systems of thought to manage the behaviour of those they saw in need of guidance, with only the best of intentions and the understanding that they were working for the common good of all.

            When they went all in for the managerial class, the Democrats reasoned to themselves that the people they were turning their backs on would carry on voting for them because they had nowhere else to go. That worked until it didn’t. Now their plans have blown up and placed power in the hands of a dangerous demagogue, along with a Republican party that has spent decades stoking outrage among its base and owes its soul to some very nasty forces indeed. Ugly.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 7:03 pm #

            “Didn’t see it as a threat to their own interests” – hilarious! Those are their customers, you ninny. Of course they vastly prefer them to Whites who pay their own way and have traditional values. And of course they hate them – not only because they hate their values, but because people always hate whom they have wronged. As you yourself said, they turned their backs on them. Or are you making a distinction between the Managers and the Democrats? Perhaps because you are one of the latter? Specious I’d say. Or at best merely technical. They are one class and lots of Republicans are included. These basically play the part of professional losers who job it is to run out the clock until the non-Whites are the clear majority.

            Every non-White with a hand held out reinforces you as a member of the gentry, the good people. And every proud White who doesn’t need you or believe in what you’re doing (picking his pocket) is an outrageous affront to your grotesquely inflated dignity.

          • Elrond Hubbard November 23, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

            Since I know there’s no changing your mind, I won’t bother with a rebuttal except to repeat what I’ve said before: I’m not a Democrat. Not only because I can’t be one, as a Canadian, but because they don’t represent my views. When you think of me, don’t think of Hillary Clinton or even Bernie Sanders. Think of Ralph Nader and you’re much closer to the mark.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 3:58 am #

            In other words, you have no answer and I win. And whatever you are, it’s bad.

  28. Ishabaka November 21, 2016 at 12:18 pm #

    After the election, President Obama concluded that one of the problems was the Democrats “message wasn’t heard” in the rust belt. Perhaps the message was heard, and the reply was “No thanks, we’d rather have a loudmouth boor that buy what you’re selling”.

    • Sean Coleman November 21, 2016 at 12:30 pm #

      (I know I’m posting a lot, but since I’m here…

      You are dead right. The same thing with ‘Brexit’. The political class is obviously not ‘connecting’ with large swathes of the people. Oh, they are connecting all right.

      • malthuss November 21, 2016 at 1:34 pm #

        Hence the need for open borders and ‘anti civilization’ hordes.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 4:11 pm #

        Be sure and vote for the Celtic People’s Party. Yeats would.

        • malthuss November 21, 2016 at 5:39 pm #

          ‘sure to vote’

          • Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 6:49 pm #

            Thanks Malth, the ‘and’ vs ‘to’ issue has long bothered me.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 7:49 pm #

            Yes, I lose sleep over it regularly.

  29. GeoffZ November 21, 2016 at 12:22 pm #

    Yup! Daddy is back – and he is drunk and just had an affair and it is one of those nights where you don’t know if mommy will get smacked and the police will have to be called…..again. But don’t worry, Daddy will just smooth talk the cops and pay them off and it is back to business as usual. Daddy just spent the rent at the track but he is saying that it is OK because he’s making new friends who will give him a loan. He is great with new people and can sell them anything because they don’t know him, but once they hold him accountable he goes into one of his rage attacks and insults them or cuts them off. And with the loan that these new buds will give him, he will end up just using it for himself by lavishing another girlfriend or blowing it on a new bet – just like he always does. And the family will wonder why they ever believed him. And when mommy wonders how the family will survive he calls her crazy and gaslights her and denies everything that he did – he deflects and blames her – he projects onto everyone his own reprehensible inner and outter goo…..and this will never change.

    • routersurfer November 21, 2016 at 5:20 pm #

      Nice. I see sales of claw foot bathtubs going up.

  30. janet November 21, 2016 at 12:50 pm #

    Trump is considering billionaire investor Wilbur Ross for commerce secretary. I hope he is another of those populist billionaires like Trump.

    This will probably be the first time so many billionaires will be together in the government who only have our best interest at heart.

    • lsjogren November 21, 2016 at 1:28 pm #

      Well, that may genuinely happen. They already have it made. The don’t have to peddle political influence like Arkansas Trailer Trash seeing the good life may feel the need to.

    • Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 1:47 pm #

      Wilbur Ross is a very levelheaded guy. I have seen him interviewed many times on CNBC.

    • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 10:49 pm #

      It is also the first time a billionaire is moving into government housing.r

  31. volodya November 21, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

    Who came up with the term “alt right”? Not “alternative right”. But ALT right.

    Has a Germanic ring to it doesn’t it? Short, abrupt, you know what I mean, as in “halt”, “schnell”, “raus” and oh yes, “sieg” and “heil”…. the language of 1930s Brownshirts, something a Nazi would spit out.

    You get a picture in your mind of young, jackbooted, uniformed Trumpian thugs, frothing with righteousness and rage and excitement, eager to serve their mad fuhrer, dancing up to you – the fragile campus snowflake, the seeker of safe spaces, the aggrieved racialized woman, the heroic single mother, the gay, the lesbian, the non-gender specific queer, the endlessly tolerant and intelligent and sensitive and gentle and high minded and learned intellectual – to beat the living shit of you and throw you through a window, Nazi style.

    I think it’s brilliant, don’t you think? Three short letters – ALT- and it suggests so much. Give credit where credit is due.

    • swmnguy November 21, 2016 at 1:10 pm #

      As far as I can find, Richard Spencer came up with the term “alt-right.” And he is indeed as you imagine.

      I believe some Europeans use the term “dirty right” to refer to the same thing. Obviously those described as such would seek a different term.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 4:14 pm #

        Spencer is wildly pro-gay and may well be half that way too. He’s a very weak Fascist. Truly the mind so often sickens us.

        • CancelMyCard November 21, 2016 at 7:42 pm #

          Ah Janos,

          The sickened mind lecturing the rest of us on “the sickened mind”

          In the land of the the intellectually bereft,

          The one-hemisphered brain is king

          Unfortunately Janos,

          They never did finish the lobotomy job properly on you.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 7:57 pm #

            Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
            And thus the native hue of resolution
            Is sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought,
            And enterprises of great pith and moment
            With this regard their currents turn awry,
            And lose the name of action.–Soft you now!
            The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
            Be all my sins remember’d.

            Do you remember your many sins, Cad?

    • lsjogren November 21, 2016 at 1:26 pm #

      Sounds less sinister than Control Alt Delete right!

    • Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 1:56 pm #

      Observant, funny excellent post, Vol.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 4:15 pm #

      This sounds like a fantasy. Look, a lot of these things have to go back to just being private vices. Sorry to ruin your scenarios…

  32. Bro Jobe November 21, 2016 at 1:15 pm #

    “It remains to be seen whether the party becomes a vengeful, hybrid monster with an orange head, or a bridge back to reality. I give the latter outcome a low percentage chance.”

    CFN is the anti-Bloomberg site. Now their writers are crowing the Trump Boom we are about to experience.

    And, children, what follows “Boom”?

    It will happen fast, too. JHK is correct that things look ready to wind down. And the drumbeat of police shootings today seem only a prelude.

    • malthuss November 21, 2016 at 1:35 pm #


      I’d prefer this to be an ‘anti Bilderberger’ site.

  33. peak_a_boo November 21, 2016 at 1:32 pm #

    Apparently the way to raise kids is let your wife do it all alone until they are adults.…

    • Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 3:28 pm #

      peak, your link alleges that Ivana said ““When they turned 21, I handed them over to him and said, ‘Here’s the finished product. You can take them from here.’”


      I doubt she ever, literally, said such a thing. Parents know that they are NEVER finished raising, helping and influencing their children. I doubt Donald changed many, if any, diapers but he almost certainly influenced their lives greatly. One thing I would want to know is: did they sit down to meals together?

      Women’s primary role in the raising and nurturing of children is a reason for women NOT to pursue unbridled political ambition…like you-know-who.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 4:18 pm #

        Ivanka is an Athena type woman. The Orthodox dictum of staying with her kids is really cramping her style – her words. Such women always go for nannies if they can afford it and custom allows. They love strong men. If that man is their father, it’s a match made in heaven. Trump is and she adores him and him her.

      • peak_a_boo November 21, 2016 at 5:54 pm #

        Ok. This is a bit more interesting article on how the Donald raised his kids.

  34. saharasergei November 21, 2016 at 1:37 pm #

    He lurches like Frankenstein’s monster, not Frankenstein. And Ivana sure raised some upstanding children; I don’t know how much the Donald had to do with it.

  35. volodya November 21, 2016 at 2:17 pm #

    Thanks Q, I don’t know about you but when these insufferable “progressives” get all superior and sneery, I get this overwhelming urge to put on an arm-band. Oh no, Janos is getting a hard on. I’m kidding Janos, pull up your zipper.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 4:20 pm #

      Let’s meet at Gettysburg a month from now, Monday morning at nine sharp and settle this.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 4:24 pm #

        But even if you win, 2+2 still equals 4. You can’t change Nature but shouting down or otherwise silencing your opponent. But you can make him become one with the Earth even if he fought against ecology all of his life.

        • volodya November 22, 2016 at 10:33 am #

          Who’s shouting you down? Who’s silencing you? Not me. I’m mocking you. As you say 2+2 = 4. The urge to fuck overcomes everything else. Admit it, there’s nothing you’d like better than some gorgeous black babe taking a shine to you. Go ahead, don’t be ashamed, you’d make a pig of yourself. Seems to me the most vociferous the racist, the least convinced. And you’re not convinced. Give it up.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 2:19 pm #

            Well I might be attracted, but attractions to inappropriate people don’t have to be acted upon. It proves nothing. If you let common horses in with race horses, the offspring will be common. Is that somehow morally superior to selective breeding? Defend your silly thesis.

  36. bibliomaniac November 21, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

    “In the face of declining political involvement by ordinary citizens, democracy becomes dangerously empty and not only receptive to anti political appeals to blind patriotism, fear, and demagoguery but comfortable with a political culture where lying, misrepresentation, and deception have become normal practice. It is only mildly hyperbolic to characterize lying as a crime against reality.”

    Sheldon S. Wolin “Democracy Inc.:Managed Democracy and the Specter of Inverted Totalitarianism.”

    • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 11:13 pm #

      Exaggeration is a form of lying but I’m still going to say it. We all voted against something, even the nonvoters.

  37. FincaInTheMountains November 21, 2016 at 3:00 pm #

    It took Hillary Clinton almost two days to appear on television and concede defeat in the elections. And more than a week it took for her to more or less recover from the defeat and continue with her duties of Bastinda the Great and Terrible, also nourishing the Fund of child protection.

    And to “work” with the Electoral College and get electors to vote for her, not for Donald Trump, she got very little time left, as 21 states allow their electors “change” the results of the voting in the state, but for this Trump had time to make key appointments of heads of departments and agencies related to security. And it is not doubt that these appointees have already started their duties to ensure the safety of Donald Trump’s administration from supporters of Hillary Clinton trying to topple it.

    Actually these appointments have drawn attention to the obvious fact that in the last hours of the campaign, in just a few minutes before the core states (the so-called “battlefield states”) began to report the results of voting, in the US there was a real revolution, that deprived Hillary Clinton of opportunity to correct the election result in her favor.

    The November Revolution of 2016 in the United States actually did take place, and in a sense of “railway stations, telegraph and telephone” just according to Vladimir Lenin was held exactly 99 years ago – the Great October Socialist Revolution.

    Someday we will know the details of this brilliant special operation, which fit to write a book 10 Minutes that Shook the World. But we can already say with certainty that apart from the obvious participants: freshly appointed US Attorney General Jeff Sessions, CIA Director Mike Pompeo and National Security Adviser Michael Flynn in its planning and implementation the crucial role was played by Barack Obama.

    And accusations of Hillary Clinton that the US current president “betrayed her,” allowing the director of the FBI a week before the election, to re-open the already closed “Servergate” investigation are not a hysteria of woman who at the last minute was taken away her beloved red button, but highly experienced and, according to Barack Obama , “devilishly clever” politician who actually took power on June 12, and, as she thought, dominated Barack Obama.

    Actually, it was clear without these accusations, from the 180 degrees turn, which has undergone internal and external policy of the USA on the day when on the site of Hillary Clinton election campaign appeared a video of Barack Obama, endorsing her as the best candidate for the US presidency.

    But this fact allows you to get an idea of how the US political system works today. In particular, it sheds light on the reasons for the above-mentioned “endorsement” of the US presidential candidate, who has not received the required minimum of delegates for the nomination of the Democratic Party, as well as on the cause why this “endorsement” appeared on the website of the candidate and not of the White House.

    • Buck Stud November 21, 2016 at 3:13 pm #

      Stop it–Hillary Clinton is not going to win the “Electoral College”.

      • FincaInTheMountains November 21, 2016 at 3:16 pm #

        Aren’t you curious in what has happened?

        • Buck Stud November 21, 2016 at 4:10 pm #

          Honestly, when I read your posts ‘something’ usually get’s lost in the translation ( and I realize that you’re typing in a second language, or so I presume).

          For example: You recently wrote that Putin disposed of his ‘liberal’ Russian adversaries. But I’m not so sure that ‘liberal’ in the Russian context means the same thing as liberal in the American sense. There may be small overlays– military policy for one–but in other area’s no so much.

          Take health care in Putin’s Russia: “The Constitution of the Russian Federation has provided all citizens the right to free healthcare under Mandatory Medical Insurance since 1996”.

          Now some of us dumber Americans, myself included, might wonder why Putin’s Russia has this while he is simultaneously dispatching “liberals” –in America it’s “the liberals championing single payer health care?

          Obviously, some of the nuances are getting lost in translation…I’m not issuing a put down of your posts, simply stating that you lose me as a reader much of the time.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 4:30 pm #

            And that apart from any attempt to consciously deceive. Does anyone know what he means when he talks about the Western “Black Project”? There is an Illuminati Conspiracy against the World and it has been going on for a long time. But Communism is a big part of that – which he totally denies. So his idea becomes worthless even if the original premise is valid.

  38. capt spaulding November 21, 2016 at 3:09 pm #

    I used to believe in the collective wisdom of the group, however, the election of George W Bush, and his subsequent re-election, made me begin to doubt the wisdom of that belief. This current election cycle has served to confirm my newfound conviction that the average citizen of this country doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground, and can be counted on to be manipulated by anybody who can string two words together and sound coherent. I have always felt that you need to keep on educating yourself throughout your life. This current election has proven to me that there are more ignorant people than any other group in this country. I actually thought that the re-election of Bush was an abberation, however I see now that I live in a country of the uninformed, who can be manipulated by people clever enough to take advantage of that fact. Indeed, Democracy contains the seeds of it’s own destruction.

    • bibliomaniac November 21, 2016 at 3:26 pm #

      “As democracy is perfected, the office of the president represents, more and more, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

      H.L. Mencken

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 4:34 pm #

      Welcome to reality. Adulthood at last. The ordinary person is an idiot and in uneducable on a deep level. Why? Because it’s a matter of taste and character not just stuffing them with information. Thus? Thus Democracy is contraindicated. America is not a Democracy, was never meant to be one, and that’s a good thing. We were supposed to be a Republic, with voting as only part of the system, and that limited to the qualified.

      Hillary might well have won. Such a think is simply unthinkable. It cannot be allowed to go on. If we gain power, we will return America to its Republican Roots.

      • CancelMyCard November 21, 2016 at 7:59 pm #


        You are unworthy to wear the starched brown shirt, the one with the
        epaulets and medals and such.

        Your lolling eyes and drooling mouth have given affront to the image
        of the dear leader Adolph.

        You are being sent back to your daybed and swaddling clothes
        to remain until the 1950s arrive, when

        Your case will be reviewed by none less than the Fuhrer of Europe and North America and may he pardon you forever.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 12:31 am #

          You are too removed from the Earth. You need to become one with everything brown. Why do you insist on personal borders when you are against them both in theory and in practice – for everyone else that is?

    • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 11:20 pm #

      Prognosticator with a fair record:

  39. Buck Stud November 21, 2016 at 3:40 pm #

    Regarding the “Hamilton” event. Buried in all the Twitter banter, Trump stated that the theater should be more or less ‘sacred’ and off-limits to political protest/demonstration..

    In essence, the real loser in stunts like these is “ART” itself because it leaves a bad taste in the mouth of those seeking an ‘aesthetic experience’, for a lack of a better word. Of course, the post-modernists will argue that the enveloping socio/economic atmosphere is not obligated to respect the boundaries and perimeter of “The Frame” which metaphorically seals off the concerns and angst of the outside world for a sacred moment of aesthetic contemplation so even the poor, dejected and less fortunate are able to imbibe in a moment of escape and elevation of the spirit (thus the beauty and necessity of public art museums).

    Of course the post-modern argument might retort, ‘oh yes, just like the landed gentry of Britain escaped into their framed off bucolic Constable landscape paintings all the while the Irish Diaspora was occurring under their noses and as a result of their policies–is that the type of “contemplative escape” you’re referring to?’

    For an answer to that it’s back to the source time again, back to the original author of the works. And there is no doubt, in my mind at least, that Constable’s intent was to paint beauty and elevate the human spirit. Indeed a beauty so great, that even those sailing sick in the bottom dungeon of a sticking “Coffin Ship” might,through visual and imaginative recollection, garner a soul-sustaining whiff of ancient Dalradian mists and fogs that stay with the lucky one’s from one life to the next.

    In other words, Eternal Art, and not a stunt of “the epoch”.

    • Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

      There are those that DO art and there are those who comment on it. You are CFN’s own Sister Wendy.

      • Buck Stud November 21, 2016 at 4:31 pm #

        Not sure how to take that; it sort of reads as a back handed compliment, i.e., those that do, don’t write.

        Well anyway if it’s a compliment, thank you.

        A while back ago, I had an atrial fibrillation episode which went away on it’s own. In the aftermath they had me do an echogram which revealed a pulmonary hypertension issue–far more serious. ( That’s what happens when you go to the doctor; they open pandora’s box and find all sorts of shit which creates anxiety and depression which is harder than the actual physical issues) Anyway, they wanted to give me a blood thinner for the AFIB to prevent stroke but after reading it was basically ‘rat poision’ I decided not to take it…and I also decided not to do a right heart catheterization for the pulmonary hypertension issue which is the gold standard in terms of a final definitive diagnosis.

        So I’m just taking my chances as it were which is ironic considering all my concern over health care insurance…I fucking hate doctors and hospitals because their very bad for my mental health.

        Anyway I happen to believe a person can both write and make art…how well, well that’s another thing altogether.

        • malthuss November 21, 2016 at 5:44 pm #

          I — hate doctors and hospitals because their very bad for my mental health–and physical as well, sometimes.

          A friend died from the germs at a hospital.

          His book ‘Confessions’ might be just what THAT doctor ordered,

        • Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 6:18 pm #

          Actually, it was a compliment. I was not suggesting in the least that you are not an excellent artist, I just thought it might be funny to picture you as Sister Wendy, bad choppers and all.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 4:39 pm #

      Nice writing and you frame the issue well. But it’s a Western conundrum. These Hamilton actors will convince themselves that the Founders were Black if the Play keep running. They have nothing to do with our Tradition and its questions. To believe otherwise is to be one of the Whites taken in by Winnie Mandela, sweet and reasonable with White journalists, raving about matches and gasoline soaked tires the rest of the time.

    • The whole Hamilton thing is pure hype. The “lecture” was pithy, so who could be bothered? Mike Pence wasn’t.

      And why does anyone take anything Trump says on Twitter seriously??

    • Elrond Hubbard November 21, 2016 at 8:45 pm #

      Orwell identified four main motives for the writer:

      – “Sheer egoism. Desire to seem clever, to be talked about, to be remembered after death, to get your own back on the grown-ups who snubbed you in childhood, etc., etc.

      – “Aesthetic enthusiasm. Perception of beauty in the external world, or, on the other hand, in words and their right arrangement. Pleasure in the impact of one sound on another, in the firmness of good prose or the rhythm of a good story. Desire to share an experience which one feels is valuable and ought not to be missed.

      – “Historical impulse. Desire to see things as they are, to find out true facts and store them up for the use of posterity.

      – “Political purpose. Using the word ‘political’ in the widest possible sense. Desire to push the world in a certain direction, to alter other peoples’ idea of the kind of society that they should strive after. Once again, no book is genuinely free from political bias. The opinion that art should have nothing to do with politics is itself a political attitude.” (Emphasis added.)

      It’s hardly surprising that anyone in power would hold the latter political attitude, least of all the president-elect. I see no reasons why the producers and performers of Hamilton should share that attitude. If they have a desire to push the world in a certain direction, it’s not only their right to do so, but an exercise of their vital powers along lines of excellence — pursuing happiness, in Aristotle’s definition. In the same essay, Orwell also wrote of his desire to make political writing into an art and recognized this as the main wellspring of his own writing. We should be thankful that he has heirs in this day and age.

      • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 11:35 pm #

        Historical Impulse – I see no reasons the producers and performers of Hamilton should not share that attitude.

  40. Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 3:43 pm #

    We are already a well armed society, very well armed. And we are anything but a polite society. – greatbeard


    The old axiom that jOnx quoted – ‘an armed society is a polite society’ – needs to have the words ‘open carry’ inserted after the word ‘armed’. The arms won’t lead to politeness if they are sitting at home in a nightstand drawer.

    • bibliomaniac November 21, 2016 at 4:06 pm #

      “All-American Killer: How the AR-15 Became Mass Shooters’ Weapon of Choice.” Rolling Stone 11/21/16

      • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 12:17 am #

        Is that what killers use? Why?

        • bibliomaniac November 22, 2016 at 12:55 pm #

          It kills faster with maximum wound effect. Adam Lanza was able to kill 20 first-graders in a matter of seconds at Sandy Hook with and AR-15.

  41. Pucker November 21, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

    Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton Walk Into a Bar….

  42. Pucker November 21, 2016 at 3:56 pm #

    Who is John Podesta?

    It looks like they’re trying to push Jaime Harrison as the new DNC Chair who has links to Podesta’s lobbying firm in Washington, DC.

    Podesta was the bloke that Wikileaks exposed as being involved in “Spirit Cooking”. Podesta looks like Nosfaratu. Weird….

    • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 12:18 am #

      Go to you tube, SGT Report, ‘Podesta’ and ‘pedophile ring’.

  43. Pucker November 21, 2016 at 4:00 pm #

    Are any of you CFNers going to get a part time Santa Claus job this year to pay for your Obamacare Bronze Plan?

  44. RaymondR November 21, 2016 at 4:03 pm #

    A lot of people commenting seem to be upset that JHK has said a few positive words about the President-elect. In the end, Donald Trump’s failings (many) and strengths (also many) may matter little. As JHK notes ‘ events are now in charge, not personalities’.

    Winter has arrived

    • bibliomaniac November 21, 2016 at 4:23 pm #

      I beg to differ. It is not people or events that are in charge, but the media who is in charge.–not the people, but those who control the minds of the people…”I am the spectacle that has appropriated your identity..”

    • Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 6:44 pm #

      As JHK notes ‘ events are now in charge, not personalities’. – Ray


      I used to be a believer in this line of thinking (doom and gloom) but as the apocalypse keeps failing to arrive, I become skeptical.

  45. FincaInTheMountains November 21, 2016 at 4:50 pm #

    “Now some of us dumber Americans, myself included, might wonder why Putin’s Russia has this while he is simultaneously dispatching “liberals” –in America it’s “the liberals championing single payer health care?” – Buck

    In Russia, by liberalization of health care, is generally understood the process of switching the health care from basic service provided by the government – your “single payer” system – to Western model of for-profit medical care through private insurance companies.

  46. FincaInTheMountains November 21, 2016 at 5:13 pm #

    “Liberal” in Russia is usually a person who insists on blindly following the covenants of “Washington Consensus”, which were given by Metropoly to its Colonies.

    Almost entire economic bloc of Russian government, including the Russian Central Bank, is currently “liberal”, mostly set during the Clinton administration in the 90s with participation of Western consultants – such as Price Waterhouse – and American Embassy.

    With coming of Trump to power, Putin’s getting a chance to change it.

  47. 100th Avatar November 21, 2016 at 5:26 pm #

    I stabbed myself when affixing my Safety-Pin of Dissent… who do I blame now?

    • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 11:38 pm #

      We’re you putting it on your MAGA hat?

      • 100th Avatar November 22, 2016 at 5:39 am #

        No, through the jewelry hole in my septum

  48. FincaInTheMountains November 21, 2016 at 5:31 pm #

    And that apart from any attempt to consciously deceive. Does anyone know what he means when he talks about the Western “Black Project”? == Janos

    About the Red, White and Black Projects

    It is all about dualistic anthropology, which Tertullian described while fighting the heresy of Marcion.

    According to this ideology, humanity is split into purely biologically supermen, or if you prefer, the Titans and “just people”. And the Red Project suggests to the rest of humanity to give the Titans a kick in the ass, including destroying them as a class, while the White Project calls on the Titans to take care of the rest of humanity, feed them on time and stroke them on the head, and the Black Project suggests that the Titans treat the rest of humanity as animals that could be killed just for a lack of usefulness.

    Once again, not for the threat to the Titans, for example, by virtue of belonging to the Red or White projects, but just for the lack of utility.
    All these projects have roots in the past – for example, Red is associated with the Essenes of the Dead Sea, and the White and Black projects with the Punic wars.

    And over 1,000 years, these hidden projects determined culture and politics in the world, periodically appearing on the surface.
    One such moment of truth was the Second World War, when Hitler personified the Black Project, Churchill the White Project and Roosevelt the Red.

    Stalin was a part of the Red project insofar as the red Soviet Union itself was the embodiment of ideology imported from the West.
    Moreover, after the US mid-term elections of 2014, Angela Merkel accession to the leading role in a Black project previously headed by Hillary Clinton becomes almost inevitable, and then the Jews all over the world must go and watch the movie “Europa, Europa.”

    The question of the big NSDAP revanche has turned to an open stage, and this is good, because Ukraine has shown that the latent form of the Nazi Party is far more dangerous.

    • Q. Shtik November 21, 2016 at 9:23 pm #

      And that apart from any attempt to consciously deceive. Does anyone know what he means when he talks about the Western “Black Project”? == Janos

      About the Red, White and Black Projects

      It is all about dualistic anthropology, which Tertullian described while fighting the heresy of Marcion.


      Ohhhhh, well OK then, that explains it…….why didn’t you say so in the first place?

    • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 6:10 am #

      Are you talking about the Nephilim? And if so, I assume that is just a metaphor. Obviously men vary tremendously and the Elites do get tired of subhumanity. Thus the Blacks do have a valid point you must admit. They are mostly represented by the Corporate Judeo/Masonic Elite now. I would put myself in the White Camp for the most part though. As the Baal Shem said, the Zaddick or Holy Man must serve the People or he will descend from whatever rung of perfection he has attained. But he is still higher even if he chooses to hide his light.

  49. Elrond Hubbard November 21, 2016 at 5:34 pm #

    JHK: “The politics of sacred victimhood has got to yield to the politics of staying alive.”

    Here’s a grim reality: With the wave of open hatred and intimidation unleashed by Trump’s election, staying alive is exactly what some of what Kunstler contemptuously calls ‘sacred victims’ are now worrying about — and not in any metaphorical sense.…

    This isn’t just a threat, it’s a reality that a lot of Americans are now facing at the hands of their neighbours. I hereby offer a prediction. If Wikipedia is accurate, the last lynching in the United States occurred on March 21, 1981 in Mobile, Alabama. For over a generation now, we’ve all held our breath in the hope that it truly would be the last one. Time to exhale, because racism is back in the U.S.A. in a big way, and its most hateful and terroristic manifestation won’t be far behind. One wonders how many will have the integrity to call it by its right now not if, but when, it happens.

    • 100th Avatar November 21, 2016 at 6:15 pm #

      This is what a true coward looks like. Afraid of the truth.

      The REALity is quite the opposite than the one you’re spooning down as fed to you by the manufacturers of consent and regurgitating here like some weak-minded chump.

      The leftist consiglieres e.g., Soros, the DNC, and the Clinton Machine, have actively instigated violence through their ground forces at BLM and other liberal activist groups (Donald Duck affair).

      The difference being that the media has not reported on it, or the other sordid revelations from the Clinton campaign.

      Look at you, all chicken little, running for cover, cover from media generated hysteria.

      You’re the worst kind of victim. Afraid of being afraid.
      Grow a pair.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 8:33 pm #

        Yes, he’s the worst of the worst. I don’t think he really believes this, just stirring the pot, hoping to see more White blood.

        • Elrond Hubbard November 21, 2016 at 8:51 pm #

          I am dead serious, and I will take you both on for as long as I have breath.

          Incidentally, apologies to all for not closing the bold tag. My bad.

          • 100th Avatar November 21, 2016 at 9:29 pm #

            Self-aggrandize much?

    • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 12:15 am #

      35,000 White women raped a year by black men, in USA.

      And how many male – male prison rapes by blacks?

      You lousy wigger.

    • WoozyCanary November 25, 2016 at 10:11 pm #

      I’m losing my respect for JHK. Quickly.

  50. 100th Avatar November 21, 2016 at 5:35 pm #

    The second best thing about this election (besides watching Clinton Inc. implode) is going to be watching the Shit-Sandwich president eat shit on inauguration day. The jug-eared smug one, himself elected only because of the anger of the electorate, will have to hand over the keys of the White House to the physical embodiment of shtick. That should bring the “community organizer” down a notch, realizing that yes anyone can get elected in these here divided states, including a joke that takes himself too seriously named Soetoro.

    • messianicdruid November 21, 2016 at 11:45 pm #

      How long before we see the headline, “Billionaire Forces Black Family Out of Their Home”?

      • 100th Avatar November 22, 2016 at 5:37 am #

        Janos will be selling “Make the House White Again” on inaug. day

      • elysianfield November 22, 2016 at 10:12 am #

        Trump forces unemployed black father of two, and family out of public housing….

        • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 12:02 pm #


          Actually MO is Mochelle Obama.

  51. drewkeeling November 21, 2016 at 6:44 pm #

    I wonder whether, in the absence of a consistent overall economic policy, the new regime in Washington will resort to reinflating the suburban sprawl bubble. Democrats seem almost as eager to say yes as Republicans were to say no 8 years ago.

    • 100th Avatar November 21, 2016 at 9:28 pm #

      Reinflating? What rock are you living in under?

      Whst has been driving “growth” the last 8 years? Historically low rates and banks with easy access to lots of cash. It’s been sprawl or bust under Obysmal.

      • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 12:03 pm #


        Student Loans.
        Car loans [sub prime]
        Credit card debt.


        Looks like Macys may go under.

  52. Steeleje November 21, 2016 at 6:48 pm #

    By Trump’s own admission, he had almost nothing to do with raising his children, he left that task to their mothers. Too bad Ivana was born overseas, she would be a far easier pill to swallow as our President than ‘The Donald’. Dark days ahead people!

  53. eastsun November 21, 2016 at 6:56 pm #

    The exalted sons of Donald Trump love to hunt endangered big game animals.

  54. elysianfield November 21, 2016 at 6:59 pm #

    The BBC, this PM, reported that Retired four star general of the USMC may be named Secretary of Defense.
    General James Mattis spent 44 years in the Corps, with the nickname “The Warrior Monk” (among others). Below, one of his more memorable quotes;

    .”I’m going to plead with you, do not cross us. Because if you do, the survivors will write about what we do here for 10,000 years.”

    Thank you, Sweet Jesus….

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 7:53 pm #

      Put him as Commander of Homeland Defense. We need him on the Wall. We have a barbarian problem and a lot of people to deport. Let him create the Deportation Force.

      Yes, thank you O Sweet Mountain Jesus!

  55. Kunstler says, “There’s a lot of talk on the Net about Strauss and Howe’s “Fourth Turning” taking stage now.”

    I tend to agree with how David Brooks described their book detailing the theory. A bad book, but a good “bad” book.

    While interesting for supplying an imaginative glue to cement various historical effects to causes, and entertaining in terms of a framework for the historical genre, it remains UN-falsifiable in practice, as prophecy or forecast.

    There were and are far too many evolving trends in current events to be able to predict the inevitability of anything BUT crises. For Strauss and Howe, perhaps, the best strategy for producing ongoing royalties is the theory itself.

    A better gauge of events might be a reverse logic of the theory. Look for the silver lining and you’ll find it. Let me know when the crisis is over and we’re all out of work, permanently retired, with robots maintaining the landscape.

  56. BehemothTheCat November 21, 2016 at 8:14 pm #

    Jim, the Trumpster didn’t raise any of his children; his wives did. And in their public behavior, especially when on-screen with dad, you can see how they’ve learned to negotiate their lives around his outsized, narcissistic, inconsistent presence.

    But that quibble aside, you’re right: events are in charge now and with the possible exception of FEMA, none of our national institutions are up to the tasks at hand.

    Given that when GOP economic dogma has been fully applied at the state level [20 years ago in Oregon and Colorado; more recently in Louisiana and Kansas–soon to be renamed Brownbackistan] the treasury craters, I am not looking forward to the next 2 years as more fuel is stockpiled for the conflagration to come.

    If Laffer were Chinese he would have been shot twenty years ago. That people still think that garbage of his has any application in real life just goes to show that in the United States of Amnesia, hundreds of suckers are born every minute. One of them is the current Speaker of the House.

  57. Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 8:29 pm #

    Trump chastises Media bosses within an inch of their lives. He’s the Executive and Chief after all. They’re working for him – or else maybe he’ll have to nationalize the whole shebang and then let decent individuals bid for the companies.

    Tired of winning yet?…

    • 100th Avatar November 21, 2016 at 9:31 pm #

      Martha Raddatz was choking back tears again… college dropout money bunny that she is

  58. janet November 21, 2016 at 10:14 pm #

    100th avatar said: “watching the Shit-Sandwich president eat shit on inauguration day.”

    You are getting ahead of things. As of now Donald Trump lost the popular vote on Nov. 8. The next vote is scheduled for Dec. 19 and if Donald also loses that vote he will not be inaugurated in January.

    Let’s take things one step at a time. The only thing we know for sure is that Trump lost the popular vote on Nov. 8 because millions more voters voted for Hillary. The definitive binding vote of the faithless electors will be on Dec. 19.

  59. toktomi November 21, 2016 at 10:23 pm #

    Oh, please, would somebody just hit the kill switch and put all of these walking dead out of their misery.

    yammer… yammer… yammer…

    and not a single word of survival.

    “~toktomi~, i do not want to catch your ass back at this site ever again.”

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 11:44 pm #

      How many Walkers have you killed? How many People? Why?

  60. trypillian November 21, 2016 at 10:29 pm #

    There is another popular Donald in American kulture and that is the famous and beloved Donald Duck. Why has this rather obvious similiarity not been discussed? The mighty iconic Duck
    has been tarnished by the bellicose, infamous human counterpart. This is a historic travesty. Personally, I would rather see my fine feathered friend become President with his cabinet of Bugs Bunny et al. Remember, you heard it here first.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 21, 2016 at 11:45 pm #

      Hillary herself is said to have come up with that silly meme and insisted on using against the objections of her staff.

  61. trypillian November 22, 2016 at 12:04 am #

    The Great Vagina had a point. I bet no one calls her by that nickname! I mean it in the nicest possible way.

  62. malthuss November 22, 2016 at 12:23 am #


  63. Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 12:26 am #

    Hamilton is a perfect symbol of the utter confusion of America, both parties, both liberals and conservatives, and both Blacks and Whites. This is the end result of one lie leading to another to justify it and then the same again and again. The only solution is go back to the Truth any further lies or reactions. Mr Hood, one of our finest White Nationalist (Republican) thinkers, is eminently capable of just this.

    [Editor’s Note: First published in April of 2016, Gregory Hood’s insightful look at the play Hamilton is worth revisiting in light of recent events.]

    The nation is the people. This is so obvious it seems absurd even to say it. Yet this is the core truth our entire political and cultural system denies. And we see the most perfect expression of this denial in the most unlikely place: a Broadway musical.

    Hamilton is a wildly successful production put together by the Puerto Rican Lin-Manuel Miranda. It is based on Ron Chernow’s 2004 biography of the Founding Father, and tells the story of Alexander Hamilton’s life in musical form. This is an unlikely subject to be celebrated by pop culture, but Hamilton has a gimmick: The entire cast is non-white, the soundtrack is influenced by hip-hop and R&B, and the performance style is . . . black. We see the Founding Fathers recast as braggadocious rappers beefing with each other rather than as the soldier-statesmen familiar to previous generations. Not surprisingly, Michelle Obama called it “the best piece of art in any form that I have ever seen in my life.” Given her intellect, she is probably telling the truth.

    There is of course, one white character: the bad guy, King George III. But from George Washington to (surprisingly) Aaron Burr, all of the American Revolutionaries are non-white. Thus, “whiteness” is associated with a backward past of unearned privilege and power, while “blackness” is a revolutionary force that overturns an unjust society. The racial makeup of the cast is an act of subversion, a mocking insult to the European-Americans who actually built the country.

    In this retelling, Hamilton is a Big Man in Charge ready to flaunt his power and wealth. The creator of the American financial system, opponent of mass democracy, and champion of centralized power is transformed from a Federalist elitist into an honorary black man with the swagger and ego of a Chicago pimp. Just as the lowest street hustler dreams he can be Jay Z, Hamilton has been repackaged as a model for multicultural America. This is what the critics mean when they talk about making the Founding Fathers “relevant” to young people; Hamilton will be shown in schools just as 1776 was.

    Of course, Hamilton devoted his remarkable talents to building what he saw as the correct social structure. He was often accused of favoring monarchy, and spoke warmly of the British political system the Americans had just overthrown. And it was Hamilton who spoke suspiciously of immigrants, arguing that “an influx of foreigners” would “change and corrupt the national spirit.”

    But the play’s portrayal of Hamilton isn’t entirely wrong. He really did come from nothing. He was born in the West Indies–not in the 13 colonies–and was an immigrant rather than established American gentry like Washington or Jefferson. Though the High Federalists whom he led were obsessed with social decorum and standing, John Adams mocked Hamilton as “the bastard brat of a Scotch peddler.”

    Not surprisingly, Hamilton has a following among conservatives. It appeals to their central conceit: We can replace the population, but the national character and form of government will remain essentially unchanged. It also lets conservatives fall into their familiar pattern of celebrating the symbolic dispossession of whites as some kind of ideological triumph for American principles.

    Thus, Kevin Gutzman (who is ambiguous about Hamilton as a historical figure) concludes that hip-hop history “works.” Richard Brookhiser, who must be angry Mr. Chernow’s biography and not his was chosen as the basis for the musical, writes approvingly:

    Hamilton shows brave, brilliant, quarrelsome Americans trying to do [self-government]. One hopes it will inspire at least some in its audiences to do likewise after the last curtain call.

    Commentary’s Tara Helfman hails the musical as a way to transcend identity politics and counter the campus totalitarians who are constantly trying to purge hated dead white males from history. She wants to believe that simply by changing the style of history and giving it a hip-hop beat, we can convince blacks and Hispanics that Hamilton and Washington are their Founding Fathers too.

    But amidst the accolades, there have been utterly predictable criticisms.

    First, though the cast is non-white, black slavery is pushed into the background. Second, Hamilton is portrayed as someone who worked his way up from nothing. This is an implied insult to blacks, who have to confront structural racism, white privilege, and all the other invented causes that explain their collective failure over the past few thousand years. And third, the Founding Fathers are presented as cool and personable rather than as vicious slaveholders, except for Jefferson, whose star is in decline, thanks to allegations about Sally Hemmings.

    Anything positive about the Founders is, shall we say, problematic for minority activists whose livelihood depends on perpetuating the idea that “black bodies” are permanently exploited by the system. Non-whites who make a living peddling grievance don’t want blacks to see the Founding Fathers as anything other than slavers and racial enemies. Any perceived attempt to incorporate African-Americans into some larger vision of American identity–even an ironic one–is therefore interpreted as further aggression. As supposed historian Lyra Monteiro says in Slate, “It’s still white history. And no amount of casting people of color disguises the fact that they’re erasing people of color from the actual narrative.”

    She’s half right. It is white history. But so is the history of the country. There are no people of color to “erase.” None of the Founding Fathers was black, nor did any of them consider America a multiracial experiment. That minority of Continental Army soldiers who were black didn’t have any real impact on the war, and many blacks actually helped the British because they were promised freedom. There’s no way to make a play about “people of color” in the Revolution without it either being painfully condescending about “black Founding Fathers” (like Glenn Beck’s fantasies) or dishonest. It’s akin to Black Lives Matter protesters who say African slaves “built” the country. If they did, so did oxen and horses.

    And the mostly liberal, wealthy whites who are paying at least $500 to attend this Broadway show know this. Everyone knows Alexander Hamilton was white, as was everyone else who mattered in the American Revolution. Hamilton is yet another example of that strange inverted white supremacism of wealthy, urban white liberals. They are helping to subvert the “racist” history of the United States by ethnically cleansing European-Americans from a depiction of the lives of white people.

    On the other hand, as Ryan Landry at “Weimerica” accurately notes, Hamilton is a “minstrel show.” An overwhelmingly white audience gets to watch an entire cast of non-whites act stereotypically black for their amusement. Racial consciousness is a constant of human nature. If denied or suppressed, it expresses itself in perverted ways.

    There is doublethink everywhere. White conservatives pretend Hamilton is actually a patriotic tribute rather than a subversive jab at the Founders. White liberals ignore the implicit supremacism of watching “those people” soft shoeing and talking jive for the amusement of SWPLs. Non-whites try to ignore the truth that the United States is entirely a European-American creation, by retroactively inserting themselves into revolutionary history. While they may find it amusing at first, non-white scholars are right to be angry when their people serve as mascots to tell someone else’s story.

    Multiculturalism and multiracialism cause low social trust, increased crime, more poverty, rising inequality, and the collapse of public institutions such as education or infrastructure. But all of this comes from one root problem: Ignoring the truth about race makes it impossible to tell the truth about anything. Even when it comes to entertainment, the random collection of individuals called “Americans” have to lie to each other. Hamilton lies by creating a false version of American history, a vision of a raceless American people that appears attractive at first but ultimately feeds only more mutual contempt and distrust.

    The solution is simple. Tell the truth about history. Tell the truth about race. And tell the truth that only we can be us. Even on Broadway.

    • tucsonspur November 22, 2016 at 2:18 am #

      Dixon was spewing the same old multicultural-diversity line.

      Lin-Manuel Miranda tweets, “Proud of Brandon V Dixon for leading with love”. Dixon himself says to Pence, “we’re all here sharing a story of love”.

      The subversive depths of the word. Love. They wear it like a warm, comforting coat, concealing meretricious motivations.

      “All we need is love, dah, dah , dah, da , da, all we need is love, dah, dah, dah, da, da, love is all we need, love is all we need, love is all we need….”.

      • Elrond Hubbard November 22, 2016 at 4:53 pm #

        Love is when the self includes the other. One of the most moving explications of that fact that I’ve ever read is Douglas Hofstadter’s account of the savage grief he experienced after the sudden death of his young wife, which you can read in his book Le Ton Beau de Marot. Struggling to make sense of his loss, he writes, he felt as if he and his wife had exchanged parts of themselves with one another. Not only had he lost a part of himself, but there was a part of him that was his wife that was in terrible pain as well.

        Good on the cast of Hamilton for their gentle insistence on love. America is all of its parts, not only the haters who want to be the whole.

  64. Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 1:09 am #

    Incredibly, many people still don’t believe that White Men are ruthlessly discriminated against. Read the article, and the comments on both pages. This is another big reason for the rise of Trump and why we see him as our last chance and the last chance for America.

  65. BackRowHeckler November 22, 2016 at 1:27 am #

    James ‘the Warrior Monk’ Mattis, General, USMC, on deck to become Sec. of Defense.

    Question: does this mean Ash Carter’s program to install tranny latrines in Marine and Army barracks — deemed essential to our national defense by President Obama — might be in some jeopardy?

    I’m worried!


  66. FincaInTheMountains November 22, 2016 at 2:00 am #

    During APEC summit in Lima, answering the journalist questions, Putin offers President Obama asylum in Russia. When he ceases to be president, of course. With family. Would be a pity if something bad would happen to such a brave and honorable man.

    In Russian (can’t find the English version) – at 13:40

    By putting Obama next to Duterte, the organizers of the summit, from Hillary Clinton’s pitch, no doubt, just mocked the US president, and it was another reason for Putin in fact to offer asylum to President Obama in Russia.

    But it might’ve been a subtle message to Trump: Take Obama under your protection, or we will…

  67. K-Dog November 22, 2016 at 2:56 am #

    This place is like Westworld if you have been watching The series. There the cycle is the day, here it is a week. There they have hosts and newcomers. Here it is exactly the same way.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 5:52 am #

      With Yul Brenner (a White with some Mongolian blood, similar to Charles Bronson)? Or did you mean the West Wing?

      • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 5:57 am #

        We’re going to be mass producing those Melania units – the perfect foreign White (with a bit of Mongol) Stepford Wife. It feels so good to be able to say this. Over on the Stormer, she must be referred to as the Empress with no mention of her robotic nature or her sexy Vampire voice. Interested in purchasing one?

        • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 6:01 am #

          I feel so disloyal to the Royal Family. If only I could erase what I just wrote! Someday I may have to stand trial for it. I may end up in the same cell as Ozone or Chold. Imagine being trapped between dimensions for eternity with a madman like Lazarus was. But if it means the universe is saved, is it such a high price to pay?

          • K-Dog November 22, 2016 at 10:33 pm #

            I mean the current HBO series and you are most certainly one of the hosts. You are caught in a loop where you endlessly repeat yourself.

            It is always the same thing with you. Your story loop is of whites forever shitting on themselves without pause or end. Yet your Star Trek Lazarus reference is evidence of memory from a previous build so there may be hope for you. This being the case if you contemplate the following sentence your mind will be unlocked.

            “These violent delights have violent ends.”

            Think about and repeat that sentence over and over and your ‘color blindness‘ will be expunged. You will realize your obsession with whiteness is not a creation of your own mind and should be tossed aside.

            FYI for those unfamiliar:

            “The Alternative Factor” was a first season episode of the original Star Trek. It was episode #27 and was seen on March 30, 1967 for the first time. It featured a character named Lazarus who was trapped between universes with a madman black hearted identical twin for all eternity. The madman twin can’t stand to have a doppleganger of himself live and will be forever trying to choke Lazarus to death.

          • K-Dog November 22, 2016 at 11:12 pm #

            You can have Ozone help you in your chant of self discovery because, as you admitted, he is your doppleganger.

            “These violent delights have violent ends.”

            Yes indeed!

        • sprawlcapital November 23, 2016 at 12:17 am #

          I love Melania’s accent. It reminds me of relatives on my father’s side of the family– like an accent derived from the Austrian dialect of German, mixed with a Hungarian accent. So comforting.

  68. FincaInTheMountains November 22, 2016 at 4:13 am #

    The new Trump’s team must start acting immediately, without waiting for official inauguration and confirmations, because after the overthrow of Hillary Clinton a power vacuum has been created in Washington.

  69. FincaInTheMountains November 22, 2016 at 5:50 am #

    Donald Trump: US to quit TPP on first day in office

    He made the announcement in a video message outlining what he intends to do first when he takes office in January.

    1. US to quit TPP on first day in office

    Trump does not suit the format of globalization when all bonuses are received by “supranational oligarchy” and the actual “American oligarchy” (including Trump) has to cover the expenses on the army and security services that ensure the subordination of the vassal states and squeezing competitors from the market. The fact that the “supranational oligarchy” takes away jobs from the US and essentially keeps profits in offshore – it’s the cherry on the cake.

    There is a case of complete congruence of American business interests and the American middle class. Trump conflict (as the voice of these interests) with transnational corporations (like Apple, for example) is likely to be the main theme of his presidency.

    2. To investigate visa programs that harm and undercut he American workers

    This is a direct reference to the promises made during the election campaign. Many Trump voters – are precisely those who have been replaced by the “educated migrant workers” from, for example, India. Businesses will really not like this measure, but Trump has enough leverage to promote a fairly popular idea: to make American businesses to invest in the growth of the US human capital, rather than looking for ways to reduce costs by importing labor.

    This measure can (if done incorrectly) cause very serious damage to the prospects of the US economy, but with proper implementation America could get off the “imported labor” needle when some of the industries became literally addicted to cheap and skilled foreign labor.

  70. FincaInTheMountains November 22, 2016 at 5:57 am #

    3. Removal of restrictions on the work of shale oil, classical oil and coal companies

    Trump pays the debts to the business structures that supported him during the election campaign. The reactions of the oil market is not visible, and most likely it is because the constraints currently facing US oil industry are economic rather than regulatory in nature.

    Clinton Media pool writes that Trump will literally kill the planet with global warming.

    He won’t.

  71. FincaInTheMountains November 22, 2016 at 6:05 am #

    4. Preparation of the United States for an adequate defense from cyber attacks

    Many were quick to see this as a pin in Russian address, but I urge you not to regard Trump as an idiot.

    Theme of “Russian hackers, who broke into the Democratic servers and helped Trump” – is the theme of Clinton campaign and the new US president does not need to pump it.

    A more rational explanation is that the new president has a colleague, a billionaire from the IT industry Peter Thiel – the only one of his supporters among the bosses of Silicon Valley, and the theme “Protection from cyber threats” – is a good reason to throw him some fat State and defense contracts, especially since all the PR job of explaining the need to strengthen cyber-protection have been done by the Clintonoids before him.

  72. FincaInTheMountains November 22, 2016 at 6:09 am #

    5. Make government stop terrorizing business. Trump rule: for every new regulation, restriction, circular and so forth should account for TWO canceled rules, restrictions, circular and so forth.

    Business finally got to the bureaucratic levers of power.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 6:20 am #

      What should we do about Soros? Surely he can and must be stopped.

      Nationalize the Media and sell it back to decent people and groups – real diversity for a change and not all Zio Monsters.

      • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 12:08 pm #

        I saw an ad on You Tube that was as unrepresentative as it was funny.

        Infiniti Xmas ad. starts with suave Black girl [age about 7] in back seat of car.

        Cut to her and her skinny suave parents in the wilds, chopping down an Xmas tree.

        Infinit autos.

        A Black intact family? Only one child? Everyone thin and urbane.

        • San Jose November 22, 2016 at 6:55 pm #

          I saw Vanessa Getty in San Francisco getting into her Infiniti. (With her teeny-tiny dog.) I was walking around in Pacific Heights.

          Jen in San Jose

          • malthuss November 23, 2016 at 9:58 am #

            One of THE Gettys.

            Celebrity watch.

  73. FincaInTheMountains November 22, 2016 at 6:13 am #

    6. “Drain the swamp of corruption in Washington.” Trump will introduce a new rule that prohibits employees of higher executive authorities to work as lobbyists for 5 years after leaving government service.

    Trump team is full of lobbyists, but that’s okay. It was important to show voters that he is serious about his promises in terms of changes in the work of the Washington bureaucracy, and he showed it. As a first step – it is quite good, but continuation will be much more complicated.

  74. FincaInTheMountains November 22, 2016 at 6:56 am #

    I am happy to announce that the Bill Still U-Tube channel which I frequently quoted on this blog, got a major endorsement from the UK COUNTRY SQUIRE MAGAZINE:

    For those of you who are tired of mad Russian ravings in this blog, I highly recommend checking out Bill’s channel from time to time:

    • sprawlcapital November 22, 2016 at 12:07 pm #

      For those of you who are tired of mad Russian ravings in this blog, I highly recommend checking out Bill’s channel from time to time:
      Quite the contrary, allowing for the fact that you struggle to break through the language barrier, I have say that you are doing some very clear thinking.

      Having said that, I must also say that for me recent events remind me of the character in a novel by Charles Dickens, who observed, “It’s all a muddle.”

      I mean, in order to control our borders and get fair trade we must support a president-elect who in turn is supported by people who:
      1) Deny that the Holocaust ever happened; 2) Believe that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a real document, not a hoax; and 3) believe that there is a Jewish conspiracy, decades–maybe centuries–in duration, to control the world.

      Other than those three areas, where we are in disagreement, I share some of the concerns of the Alt-right.

      The title of the novel, by the way, was Hard Times.

      (Go head, call me a cuck. Whatever the f— you think that means.)

      • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 2:30 pm #

        Sure, every White country is being invaded by Third Worlders with the full support of their governments. The native populations are slated to become minorities sometime this century. This just “happened”? It’s “normal”? Even if that were true, once normal people were made aware of it, all efforts would be taken to stop it and reverse it. But the opposite is the case: once the issue is brought up, savage wails and threats ensue. The elimination of the White Race is priority number one and it comes straight from the Top of the Globalist System. And if Nations and politicians want in on the goodies, they have to adopt this attitude and these policies. Thus the absolutely amazing and sickening acquiescence.

        Someone is behind this. Someone began all this and financed it. The Jews and the Masons are the only suspects. And the Jews are older and more powerful than the Masons, the senior partners in any case. The New World Order types do get annoyed with the Jews though, seeing them as holding up Global Civilization. How exactly that conflict will pan out is anyone’s guess. Both are our enemies and are united against Western Civilization.

        • beantownbill. November 22, 2016 at 3:49 pm #

          You are such a silly man, with very poor reasoning powers.

          • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 4:22 pm #

            FIRST SENTENCE–

            Sure, every White country is being invaded by Third Worlders with the full support of their governments.


            This is from ‘comments online about refugees in USA’–

            They are flooding us here in NY with refugees, built them brand new condos while I am struggling to pay my mortgage.

            They put them in struggling communities on our dime. Why don’t you put them next to the Clintons or Cuomo or Diblassio.

            None of you are paranoid. My grandchildren live in Texas. They have told me they are seeing more SBD more of the United Nations Arny personal and vehicles in their neck of their back yard.

            Obama has set up army camps around these small towns and the suburban north of Houston, Conroe, Woodlands, Garland, Sugarland, Texas.

            They can’t go cave exploring or rock climbing anymore. The army personnel are telling them and locals to turn around and leave. These people are oriental looking and others they aren’t sure where they are from. People have seen 30 U. N. Vehicles driving down in Dallas, Tx. These vehicles are fully loaded. The Vietnam veteran that saw more vehicles driving down I-30 towards Garland, Tx. Said that they saw a Iran ship approaching United States. These vehicles are coming n 8at night and being parked by the ¹00’s in open fields.

  75. nsa November 22, 2016 at 9:04 am #

    Sneak a peek at your future…visit Aztlan del Norte (formerly California). It is now only 37% non-hispanic white….less if you include the illegals. Especially Socal now resembles Mexico….surprise, surprise. Drive the decaying fissured freeway from LA to Palm Springs. Garbage everywhere. A sea of crap houses featuring cars with hoods up in the front yards…postage stamp sized back yards filled with broken plastic toys. Towns featuring street signs only in espanol and nary a white face. Bald headed tatted gangbangers hanging out at every convenience store and gas station. Mindless violence and auto collisions. And as always where Mexicans dominate…..the garbage, the fast food litter, the cans, the plastic bags swirling in the dust, the lack of respect for anything civic. It’s so awful, even the biker gangs have vacated San Bernardino… 90% beaner…..95% VisMin. When visiting this newly minted turd world paradise, best to keep your 357 under the car seat where it’s handy……..

    • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 2:35 pm #

      To Sprawl’s question: Any White who denies this is a cuck. Any White who thinks this is good is cuck. A Cuck is one who works for the dispossession and elimination of his or her own people.

    • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2016 at 6:21 pm #

      well, it looks like we ain’t ‘California Dreamin’ no more.

      there you are, whitey, with your surfboard jammed up your ass, the Woodys been carjacked, and the hippies at the summer of love got the shit kicked out of them by some homies in a low-rider who warned them in no uncertain terms get the f=k out of our state, Aztecaland.


  76. elysianfield November 22, 2016 at 10:49 am #

    This quote, from the site, attempts to define the archetypical Trump supporter;

    “Most of the greasy handed, uneducated, backwoods, “Blue Collar”, toothless heathens that populate this nation and unfortunately the voter pool preferred to sit in their shit stained skivvies in the privacy of their double wide manufactured home and spew their hate on the internet. Not once could these people understand what it meant to mobilized by passion for humanity and equality for all. I mean they could barely be ambitious enough to get down to old Taco Bell and get a prescription for diarrhea later.”

    The above quote was so enjoyable, I had to pass it along.

    “…To drive your foes from the field of battle and hear the lamentations of their women….”

  77. tucsonspur November 22, 2016 at 11:42 am #

    Once again, the electoral college has spoken what is to some an ugly truth.

    Its sanctioned sorcery has again turned winner into loser and loser into winner. Thank God. Could the great Founding Fathers have ever even imagined such a propitious outcome at such a critical time? I doubt it.

    A few blogs back I think I asked the question, “could a candidate win the popular vote by, say, 2.8 million votes and still lose the electoral college?”

    Astounding to see it actually happening.

  78. volodya November 22, 2016 at 12:49 pm #

    The absurdity is wide and deep and it doesn’t just infect one side of the aisle.

    But I have to say I am in abiding admiration over the issue of trans-gendered bathroom rights. Who cooked this up? The people-that-pray would think this is a product of deeply disturbed minds. And seriously, what parent wouldn’t freak if their adolescent daughter called on her cell phone and said mom, there’s a boy in the change-room or, worse still, a man in the women’s lavatory?

    But never mind, that’s the point. As a concept it was a swing for the fences but also it was absolutely brilliant because it had the country in an uproar for months. And the Obama administration was doing superiority dances for all that time portraying themselves and their supporters as these wonderful, progressive fighters for justice and their opponents as dumb-ass knuckle-draggers. I laughed and laughed.

    But I laughed mostly because it was a massive distraction for the Liberal-left. So busy were they with collective self-admiration and congratulation that they took their eye off the ball and forgot that politics at their core are about interests even more than values. And while it might have got church-goers all riled up, and campus kids all enraptured with their self-love, there was one reality that it couldn’t obscure, that is, the one about paychecks and plant closures. THAT was the central the issue of the Trump campaign and THAT was the issue that swung the mid-west and sent Hillary into embittered retirement.

    Will the Liberal-left learn? I doubt it. People don’t learn, least of all progressives, so convinced are they of their own enlightenment and so convinced that history is on their side. They tell us that they have demographics as their ally. Except that, no they don’t. See most Hispanics are now English dominant, and a great many identify as “white” rather than Latino.

    Don’t tell Democrats that assimilation is an even more implacable historical force than manufactured identity politics because Democrats don’t listen. They’re better than you and they know everything.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 2:49 pm #

      Who cooked it up? One of the planks of the Frankfurt School is the promotion of Homosexuality. It’s working since many now prefer to normalcy. And by granting it equal status, society is transformed automatically. Mother and Father become dirty terms and are beginning to be scrubbed from legal documents.

      Sally Kohn is devastated that her daughter seems to be normal.

  79. fairguy November 22, 2016 at 12:52 pm #

    Dear Mr. Kunstler,

    Through the years I have enjoyed your wonderful literature from the Geography of Nowhere through the World Made By Hand Books.

    However, as a faithful blog reader, through this past election cycle I was surprised and put off by your aggressive anti-Clinton stance. I understood the rationale for criticizing some of her actions but in the grand scheme of things, your extreme dislike and disregard for her seemed well out of proportion. Especially, given that her main opponent, a well established oddball billionaire, con man and sex predator was clearly unfit for a municipal government role, let alone the presidency. Now, you praise him for raising “high functioning children” on the merit of their public good manners and clean cut attire. Give us a break.

    Here is where I get off your bandwagon and wish you farewell. My advice, for what it’s worth: stick to literature and not to political discourse – it does show you in a good light.

    • neoh November 22, 2016 at 1:51 pm #

      Great article (as always). I am adding another lump sum donation in addition to my monthly “tithe”.
      Thanks for covering the election. Apparently some are not aware that literature includes political discourse….usually the same people that are unable to read…the type that missed your numerous comments that you are NOT endorsing Trump.
      Me? I originally voted for Sanders in the primary (he would have won against Trump). There were many like me,at least around here,who decided to vote for Trump after Bernie crashed and burned (I guess Bernie never felt the burn!). We felt Trump was a little better than Hillary which kind of reveals how despicable they both are (and yes, there was the temporary satisfaction of giving the establishment the finger!).
      So a great thanks to you from the flyover zone called Ohio. One of many former great manufacturing states that isn’t worried about immigration…because there isn’t any reason for them to come here.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 2:39 pm #

        He would have won – even after saying Whites don’t know what it’s like to be poor? Even after surrendering his mic to the loathsome BLM, and standing there like a shamed child?

        Don’t be so sure.

  80. capt spaulding November 22, 2016 at 3:23 pm #

    Trump is exactly what he appears to be, someone with with the attitude that makes a fascist. I doubt that the majority of people who voted for him even know what a fascist is, all they know is that they like what he has to say. People are easy to manipulate, especially if they are ignorant. I read my history, and I know what makes a fascist, even if the other folks don’t know, or realize the implications of voting for people like him.

    • elysianfield November 22, 2016 at 5:34 pm #

      “I read my history, and I know what makes a fascist, ”

      We in the readership expect, now, for you to enlighten us…what makes a fascist? C’mon Cap, stand and deliver.

      • capt spaulding November 22, 2016 at 8:27 pm #

        Here’s Websters take on it. Fascism: A political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation & often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. My take on it: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. I call that abDUCKtive reasoning.

        • elysianfield November 22, 2016 at 11:35 pm #

          So a Fascist, loosely defined, could be a Nationalist, a patriot that admired the FDR presidency, who supports the police in their suppression of mob action to maintain law and order?

          Fascist? I did not know that about myself….

          • capt spaulding November 23, 2016 at 11:54 am #

            Introspection is a good habit to acquire.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 22, 2016 at 6:12 pm #

      Janet/Asoka/wpa supports your fuzzy truth – so you know you must be in the ballpark, ready to play baseball during a football game.

  81. FincaInTheMountains November 22, 2016 at 4:21 pm #

    Russian Orthodox and Conservative Jews actively participated in establishing channels of communication between Kremlin and Trump election campaign

    A high-ranking and well-informed source has told online Russian news publication that in their search for channels of communication with U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, Kremlin representatives have used members of Russia’s Jewish business circles who have contacts with the family of his daughter Ivanka’s husband Jared Kushner, an Orthodox Jew.

    In an interview with, the president of the Russian Jewish Congress, Yury Kanner, said he could neither confirm nor deny reports that the Kremlin had tried to establish communication with Trump via members of the Jewish business community.

    • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 4:24 pm #

      And UK gov is unhappy with Trump as he supports Brexit.

      So whats it all about?

      • neoh November 22, 2016 at 5:24 pm #

        You guys crack me up. Sounds like a fascist lol. What does that sound like? Very naive you are. The type of people that would take a ride from Ted Bundy since he talked nice.
        He (or she) did/said this or that?? Do any of you agree with everything that either of these clowns said/did? I hope not. Blah blah blah your candidates sins are worse than my candidates sins.
        Carry on children. Regardless of whether you voted for Trump or Clinton, you have at least 10yrs worth of comments to criticize the candidate you liked less. But you won’t. You’ll have much greater concerns. Tomorrow you won’t be any smarter than what you were yesterday because you can’t see the forest for the trees.
        There is just one thing that I can guarantee any of you. On Nov 8th 2017 the world is going to be much different (painful..difficult). Doesn’t matter who “won” the election. This is not a Trump/Clinton thing. Much bigger. You can’t stop it. It’s taken on a life of its own. Prepare now. Mend fences.Build a “real” support network (hint, it’ll be a combination of people that think differently but are able to work together). Good luck. We’re going to need it.

        • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 9:16 pm #

          Not sure why your snark is directed at me.

          ‘Regardless of whether you voted for Trump or Clinton’–exactly.
          You think or assume that I voted and I voted for one of them.

          ‘Mend fences’—so you troll here, insult us and then offer your bromide.

          Carry on, narcissist.

          • neoh November 23, 2016 at 11:30 am #

            My apology malthuss. Pressed the wrong button.

        • elysianfield November 22, 2016 at 11:23 pm #

          “people that would take a ride from Ted Bundy since he talked nice”

          He (Bundy) did not want people with good taste…he wanted people who taste good…Charlie Tuna

  82. janet November 22, 2016 at 5:44 pm #

    Trump is exactly what he appears to be, someone with with the attitude that makes a fascist.” –CS

    Yes, you have read your history.

    Fascism attacks the press. Trump has already done that. In fascism there isn’t really truth, there isn’t enlightenment, there aren’t really facts and evidence. In fascism you start from will and emotion and fantasy and myth. It’s primarily an aesthetic idea, a vision of greatness. Fascism cannot really tolerate a culture where people are trying to figure out what is going on the basis of facts… so attack the journalists.

    If there is not truth, then that opens the way towards the notion that everything is really a struggle, we can say what we want, words are just one more weapon in the struggle for fascist victory. Word don’t attempt to describe the world, just change the world, so that the world becomes more like this racial struggle that fascists think it really ought to be.

    Trump is a fascist and all we need is a Reichstag fire (in our case an ISIS terrorist attack) to justify the dissolution of congress, the courts, the press, martial law, and the imposition of other extreme emergency measures. Trump becomes Chavez, Putin, etc. …, president for life.

    • Elrond Hubbard November 23, 2016 at 2:02 pm #

      janet: “[A]ll we need is a Reichstag fire (in our case an ISIS terrorist attack) to justify the dissolution of congress, the courts, the press, martial law, and the imposition of other extreme emergency measures. Trump becomes Chavez, Putin, etc. …, president for life.”

      Stop it. You’ll give Janos a woody.

  83. janet November 22, 2016 at 6:00 pm #

    Case in point: today Trump said if he does something as president it cannot be illegal. For example, his businesses and “blind trusts” …

    Trump said: “The law’s totally on my side, the president can’t have a conflict of interest.”

    To take Trump seriously, he is saying: If the president does it, it’s not illegal.

    The comments come just hours after Trump tweeted Monday night that people knew about his glaring conflicts of interest when they voted for him. It is therefore supposedly the media’s fault for reporting on them.

    Always blame the media for reporting truthfully your own words.

    • malthuss November 22, 2016 at 9:16 pm #

      Hello Janet. How are you?

  84. HalfDome November 22, 2016 at 9:10 pm #

    “Case in point: today Trump said if he does something as president it cannot be illegal. ”

    Didn’t Nixon say exactly this? This idea goes way back, all the way to the divine right of kings. We have had one percent rule forever.

    • Elrond Hubbard November 23, 2016 at 2:20 pm #

      Yes he did. The idea is that all authority resides in the president, then gets divvied out and delegated as he sees fit. The president himself can’t break the law because he is the law. The republican form of government is supposed to prevent exactly that kind of arbitrary exercise of power by explicitly dividing authority between branches of government and using one to check the other.

      Where I live, it’s a bit different. Canada is a constitutional monarchy, where authority resides in a legal fiction called the Crown, personified by the monarch (currently HM Elizabeth II, the Queen in Right of Canada) whose representative is the Governor-General of Canada. The G-G is a figurehead whose role is basically ceremonial; his or her one real power is to dissolve Parliament “on the advice of the Prime Minister” in the event of an election. In practice it’s the Prime Minister who actually decides, and for the G-G not to act on the PM’s “advice” would provoke a serious crisis.

      Kind of like the crisis Donald Trump may be provoking by ignoring the customs and precedents that a U.S. president is supposed to observe. That includes his refusal to divest ownership and/or place assets in a blind trust to prevent the appearance of a conflict of interest. (If putting his kids in charge of his business constitutes a “blind trust”, then my dick is a baseball bat.)

  85. malthuss November 22, 2016 at 9:17 pm #

    X 22 REPORT

  86. BackRowHeckler November 22, 2016 at 10:20 pm #

    The plant I work at (I know, I know Ken, wrong use of a preposition) hires a lot of ex-cons, some sort of agreement with the state. About 15% of our workforce is former prisoners. I get along pretty good with most of them; I found if you treat them with respect, and act like a man yourself, you won’t have any problems. I was talking with this one guy last night — an excon — not sure what the crime he was in for was (14 years, Federal), I think it was sexual in nature. He’s a hard case and he looks like he’s did some hard time. Anyway, he told me he’s starting a business cleaning rain gutters and washing windows.

    “What are you calling your business, Mike”?

    “S & M services”?

    “But your name is Mike —–, where’d the S&M come from?

    “That’s my business, too”

    I politely informed him I didn’t need any work done at the moment.


    • elysianfield November 22, 2016 at 11:29 pm #

      ” not sure what the crime he was in for was (14 years, Federal), I think it was sexual in nature. He’s a hard case and he looks like he’s did some hard time.

      Reminds me of the story of the guy who was arrested for the burglary of a pharmacy…stole 10,000 tabs of Viagra. Police described him as a hardened criminal….

      What’s the latest from Camden?

      • BackRowHeckler November 23, 2016 at 12:26 am #

        Only know Camden by reputation … and the reputation isn’t good.

        Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Waterbury, now that’s a different story. I’m very familiar with those cities.

        My advice (for what its worth): avoid them at all costs.


        • tucsonspur November 23, 2016 at 1:37 am #

          “there you are, whitey, with your surfboard jammed up your ass, the Woodys been carjacked……”

          Just great. Go to the front row now and take a bow.

          Long time ago. Surfin’ at Laguna, Corona, Newport.

  87. tucsonspur November 23, 2016 at 1:24 am #

    “Good on the cast of Hamilton for their gentle insistence on love. America is all of its parts, not only the haters who want to be the whole”. Elrond

    The love written about by poets and deeply felt by some for others is one thing. It has no ulterior purpose, it has no agenda. It can have an almost agonizing purity.

    This other “love” hides its real agenda, while handing out the cotton candy of multiculturalism and the chocolate covered strawberries of diversity.

    It’s a false love, blithely mouthed to marshal the marshmallows.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 23, 2016 at 8:26 pm #

      The utter shamelessness of these people is only matched by their cluelessness – and their own possible defense.

  88. Pucker November 23, 2016 at 3:10 am #

    Happy Thanksgiving!

    Thanksgiving in a world of limited resources: If somebody gets a bigger slice of the pie, then somebody else gets a smaller slice. True or False?

    Lack of economic growth creates “Hard Choices” since the only way to give more to one group (minorities and women) is to take from another group.…

  89. FincaInTheMountains November 23, 2016 at 4:49 am #

    And UK gov is unhappy with Trump as he supports Brexit. == malthuss

    Britain by Brexit begins to destroy the European Union, realizes its dream. First, create it in the version that suited her, and did not suit the main, in theory, beneficiaries of the EU – Germany and France. And then, just when the time was right, knocks it down with Brexit.

    Britain helps Trump in US to win the presidency. Not directly, but indirectly – through the Jewish business community that is closely associated with the British Crown, and the Chabad,(also known as Lubavitch) community, which Trump’s daughter Ivanka has recently become a member of.

    • FincaInTheMountains November 23, 2016 at 5:03 am #

      By the way, there is a theory that it was Rothschild – main banker of the British Crown, who saved Trump almost 30 years ago when he was on the verge of personal bankruptcy, appreciating his organizational and personal qualities.

  90. FincaInTheMountains November 23, 2016 at 5:18 am #

    Almost every point in Donald Trump’s 100-days program shows a typical isolationist – President, anxious to increase the living standards of those who supported and voted for him. But if in modern America has become popular isolationism, the other countries are choosing sovereignty – that is, the right to take decisions without regard to the United States.

    It is no accident that over the weekend in the last primaries in France center-right parties won a brilliant victory, François Fillon – a politician who professes Gaullism. Charles de Gaulle was not a supporter of either the Soviet Union or the United States – he was a patriot of his country, which still remembers him with love. All the other presidents gradually, bit by bit, gave sovereignty up, and, eventually, France turned into a completely dependent on external forces country. Perhaps today, when Washington’s grip weakens, Paris once again becomes independent.

  91. janet November 23, 2016 at 9:10 am #

    Boo hoo Trump loses Trump U case and pays out millions of dollars.

    Boo hoo Trump loses Trump Foundation case and pays fine for stealing campaign donations.

    Boo hoo Trump in violation of Article 1 Section 9 of the Constitution for using presidency for personal enrichment. Impeachment to follow inauguration IF TRUMP MAKES IT TO INAUGURATION (in a land of armed citizens who love the second amendment and don’t cotton to thieving tyrants)

    • ozone November 23, 2016 at 4:47 pm #

      Hey Jan’soka, you shitheaded shitbird,
      Knowing that you live, die and derive all your goodies at the pleasure of the MIC, you ain’t a’gonna catch any emenies o’ da uber-state with that kind of inflammatory ass’ination talk. EVENTS are now in charge, and your beliefs and allegiances are irrelevant. It’s the Globalist Backlash come to call. Now you will simply watch as things unfold in the arena of consequences that you’ve helped bring about as a suck-ass minion. Have fun quaking in your taxpayer-supplied boots…

      • Janos Skorenzy November 23, 2016 at 8:15 pm #

        Conflating my name and the Entity’s? What an obnoxious creature you are. But your all about the “truth”, right? Only in your bigoted mind.

        • Q. Shtik November 23, 2016 at 9:17 pm #

          He was conflating Janet and Asoka. For all your erudition, you can be incredibly dense sometimes.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 23, 2016 at 11:24 pm #

            No matter. He had that coming. And so much more…
            And perhaps I had that coming because of my cracks about munky ball. You worked hard and have the right to enjoy yourself. And Football is so, so American. You gave up voting but you’d never give up Football. I’m the traitor, not you.

  92. Q. Shtik November 23, 2016 at 11:12 am #

    I received this morning an email with “JHK gives thanks to patrons” as its subject. There is a short video (2-3 mins) where Jim explains that the Patreon system has given him time and an income over the past year that has allowed him to write another book (which is about 4 pages short of completion). He says it is about a hippie commune in New England set in 1968. Publication won’t be until roughly Dec next year due to the mechanics of the book publishing process.

    For those of you unable to view this video, I can report that Jim has shaved off his mustache and that a sideboard or buffet near the chair he is sitting in has on its top an assortment of booze bottles, two of which are Jim Beam and Bicardi Rum…for whatever value this piece of information may be to you…probably none.

    • ozone November 23, 2016 at 4:53 pm #

      Thanks, Q.,
      To my taste, the Bacardi is one of the harshest of rums, but I can recommend the Beaming Jim (in proper dosages) as a fine cure-all for whatever may ail ye! 😉

  93. janet November 23, 2016 at 11:26 am #

    “Publication won’t be until roughly Dec next year ” — Q

    Next year? There is no guarantee we will survive until next year.

    Nuclear war, global economic collapse and mass extinction are just around the corner, possibly before Christmas.

    • Q. Shtik November 23, 2016 at 12:40 pm #

      There is no guarantee we will survive until next year. – Asoka


      Well, in that case Jim’s new book will be the least of our concerns.

  94. volodya November 23, 2016 at 12:33 pm #

    Capt Spaulding, with all due respect I’d be cautious about drawing parallels with fascism. For one thing, I know people that had direct experience with fascism (these people are old but their memories of that brutal time sound like they’re etched pretty deep) and they disagree with the comparison.

    Like you I’ve done some reading on that subject but I come to a different conclusion. I see Trump as an ego maniac whose self-aggrandizing behavior is acutely sick. Having said that, it got him the presidency.

    Trump understands what gets attention. His blaring declarations early in the primary campaign about Mexican rapists caused a massive shit-storm. Yeah, it was unworthy but it was impossible to NOT look and THAT got him a leg up. Otherwise he’d have been sidelined and his run would have been seen as a rich-man’s frivolity.

    IMO neither the Republicans nor the Democrats had anything for the Heartland except decline and destitution. Trump arrived full of bullshit and bluster looking like he was making it up on-the-fly. On-the-fly or not, what he said sure hit the bulls-eye. That Trump beat BOTH parties should be a testament to their senility. Seeing as we’re giving credit where it’s due, let’s give some more to Trump, he saw it more clearly than anyone.

    • Elrond Hubbard November 23, 2016 at 3:28 pm #

      The current situation isn’t “parallel” with fascism; it’s the thing itself, or very much heading in that direction.

      Seriously, ‘Heil Trump’. How blind and deaf can someone be?

      Why fascism is the word: From time to time, a ruling class gets so far out of touch with those it rules that they decide to give up the pretence of seeking consent from those they govern, and resort to unconcealed force. There are several ways they might go about this, but fascism is the applicable term when the ruling class makes common cause with the most reactionary of right-wing identitarians. They act as goons for the rulers, and in return their most paranoid and atavistic fantasies become public policy. This may range from mass imprisonment to dispossession, forced migrations, and genocide.

      Open your eyes, please. This is serious business.

    • ozone November 23, 2016 at 5:09 pm #

      I agree with your assessment and would add just one reverberating note: In this age of selling shit-as-solid-gold (the Madison Ave./Bernays phenom, writ large) Trump certainly has shown his mettle.
      How could a salesman [par excellence] finagle his way into the sacred temple of power? Fuckin’ EASY, that’s how! (It’s the epitome of being “sold a bill of goods”, but that’s exactly what we’ve been set up for [as a population of “consumers”] for a few generations.

      I certainly don’t doubt Trumpy’s powers of persuasion — as to his judgement, we’ll just have to wait and see. (Premature visions of impeachment notwithstanding… 😉 )

      • ozone November 23, 2016 at 5:13 pm #

        Addendum: …shown and PROVED his mettle.

    • capt spaulding November 24, 2016 at 10:39 am #

      Volodya, I agree with you that neither party had anything except more decline & destitution in store for us. I would add disillusion to that statement as well. I don’t know if anybody can alter the path we are on. Events that we can’t control are shaping the fate of this country, and I see the election of Trump as a desperate attempt to change whats happening. This is a pretty well read group here, and I don’t see much optimism. The manufacturing jobs are never gonna come back the way they used to be. For the blue collar guys, that’s where the money was. Now you see China deriving the benefits that we once enjoyed. I honestly have no idea where we are headed and how we are gonna wind up, but I have a bad feeling about things. This country accumulated great wealth in the time after WWII, and it will take time for that to peter out, just like it takes a train a mile to stop after the brakes are applied. The Fourth Turning is upon us. Expect more craziness as people get more desperate.

  95. volodya November 23, 2016 at 1:20 pm #

    Janos, what it proves is what uncounted centuries of evolutionary pressure bred into you. What your base, heart pounding desire for that lubriciously excellent black chick is telling you is that she’s fit, she has what it takes to bear your offspring, otherwise you wouldn’t be steaming up your glasses.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 23, 2016 at 3:19 pm #

      You’re revealing a lot about yourself – nothing about me. Sex isn’t the most powerful force in existence. It’s strong – very strong at times. But inappropriate behavior can be resisted, be it adultery, sex with hot teenager minors, or sex with a person of a race you don’t want to mix with.

      If you have a fetish for huge tits, would you throw your life away on it? Going after women with huge artificial tits, and spending all your money on them? It’s like that. Is that the Life Force speaking? Or some hideous perversion of it – lust in other words.

  96. Q. Shtik November 23, 2016 at 1:20 pm #

    My topic is granularization.

    I’m surprised there has been so little mention here (Finc DID make a brief mention) about a great shift happening in France toward the center right and hard right that could lead to Marine Le Pen becoming President of France when the final voting concludes next May. Until the totally unexpected phenomena of Brexit and then Trump, Le Pen was given no chance. Likewise Merkel is looking shaky in Germany.

    I am so glad to see these movements toward the breakup of the European Union (France leaving now goes by the name ‘Frexit’). I will also be glad to see the US downsize its empire…by what logic are places like Puerto Rico and Guam part of the US?

    I am AGAINST globalization and FOR the world becoming more granular. This will take awhile and I will probably have to observe its fruition from an urn inside my pyramid.

    • volodya November 23, 2016 at 1:58 pm #

      Events can move pretty fast. There’s a lot of stuff looking pretty shaky, not just Merkel, that casts doubt on the viability of the global regime of production, consumption and trade. The Fed is scared stiff of notching up interest rates for fear of disemboweling financial markets, Italian banks are rotten to the core, so is Deutsche bank and on and on. The system doesn’t work. And IMO it’s unfixable because the Oligarch elite has so much invested in it that they will not contemplate any other way.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 23, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

      Or sweet, sweet Swexit.

  97. janet November 23, 2016 at 2:47 pm #

    “Events can move pretty fast” — volodya

    Amen! While the nation’s attention has already shifted to Trump’s moves as president-elect, his share of the total vote continues to decrease.

    Hillary Clinton’s popular vote lead surpassed 2 million ? or about 1.5 percent of the overall vote ? on Wednesday morning, with 64,225,863 ballots now counted in her favor, compared to 62,210,612 for Trump, according to David Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.

    In addition to winning the popular vote, Hillary needs to win the electoral vote on Dec. 19 before she can legally assume the presidency and move into the White House for the next four years.

    • tucsonspur November 23, 2016 at 4:09 pm #

      “It ain’t cool being no jive turkey this close to Thanksgiving”.

      • janet November 23, 2016 at 4:35 pm #

        As more votes accumulate for Hillary, leaving Trump behind by millions of popular votes, more electors lose faith in Trump. More faithless electors in th electoral college means a majority of electoral votes go to Hillary on Dec. 19, the final vote that determines who will legally become president. It ain’t over until the faithless electors vote.

        • tucsonspur November 24, 2016 at 2:17 am #

          Will it reach the hypothetical 2.8 million I suggested in my questions about the electoral college? Spooky if it does.

          The electors are watching Trump take command, looking at his appointees, and seeing his leadership. Now, Hillary supporters are becoming faithless and may switch to Trump.

          Can you imagine that she wins the popular vote by 6 million and loses the electoral college by another seven?

          Maybe two million votes out of NYC and four million out of California?

          We all know who the majority of those voters would be.

          The racists are pissed, realizing they don’t have a lock on national rule. They’ve gotten the green weenie and they’re choking on it.

  98. sharonsj November 23, 2016 at 4:34 pm #

    Everyone talks about “The Fourth Turning,” but four years prior to that book was “The Great Reckoning” by Davidson and Rees-Mogg. It, too, examined global cycles and concluded that we were in for some very long and hard times. They recommended leaving the cities for simpler country living and becoming more self-sufficient–just what Mr. Kunstler has done and which I have also done.

    I do not believe Trump will do anything for the middle and working classes and that their lot will continue to decline, just as the rich continue to loot what’s left. We’re in for continuing violence as well. So I choose to hunker down in the middle of nowhere, since I’m too old and infirm to partake in the next revolution. As James Carville said about a Trump presidency: “We’re under siege. Fix bayonets!”

    • malthuss November 23, 2016 at 6:51 pm #

      I liked or agreed with your post until the last sentence.
      Carville is a monster.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 23, 2016 at 8:12 pm #

      Yes – more violence from the Left. Trump voters have been remarkably well behaved, often in the face of outrageous provocation. But we’re not pacifists so don’t expect to get away with it forever….

  99. Pucker November 23, 2016 at 6:23 pm #

    Happy Thanksgiving!

    I heard that Ted Kaczynzki has a new book out, which is quite good. I haven’t read it yet. Since the pie isn’t getting larger, be sure to grab the biggest slice of pumpkin pie for yourself this Thanksgiving. As my Dad used to say: “Grab it and growl.”

  100. Marie November 23, 2016 at 6:27 pm #

    I have read the Fourth Turning by Strauss and Howe, and as soon as this election was over I could feel in my bones that the Crisis event of the fourth turning had in fact arrived. This was before I even realized that others like Quinn had made the same connection. He is completely wrong about the Grey Champion though. A key aspect about the grey champion is that he leads the Hero generation, in this case the Millennials, into battle to rectify the crisis. Trump is not the champion. He may in fact be the bona fide crisis event. Trump won’t be the champion, because Millennials will never have him as our leader. It should be utterly obvious to anyone that the Grey Champion is Bernie Sanders.

    • beantownbill. November 23, 2016 at 6:55 pm #

      Me, I plan on staying put, and if necessary, go down fighting trying to protect my loved ones. We’re too old to move away. What more glorious way to end it, rather than dying in a nursing home in a wheelchair, while someone keeps wiping the drool off my face?

      • BackRowHeckler November 23, 2016 at 7:20 pm #

        I don’t think it will come to that, Bill, either fighting for your life, or ending up helpless in an old folks home.

        We have our ups and downs, but things just seem to go on and on …


        • BackRowHeckler November 23, 2016 at 7:23 pm #

          you write and think clearly, no sign of loss of mental acumen. You have a long time to go yet, my friend


        • beantownbill. November 23, 2016 at 8:51 pm #


    • InquiringMind1 November 25, 2016 at 1:34 am #

      Hey Marie,

      All due respect,….There may be more than one Grey Champion in the mix in the coming crisis ,and that COULD include both Bernie Sanders AND Donald Trump, among others.

      Many folks of various generations,…including Millennials,…..have supported Trump and Bernie.

      Many would have considered Hillery the crises “event”…….

      Before anyone panics,…why don’t we just all take a deep breath and watch how things unfold a bit.?

      • InquiringMind1 November 25, 2016 at 1:46 am #

        also…….wasn’t THE crises event the economic crash of 2008?

        Trump has inherited the voter response to previous POTUS actions.

        Many of your generation were,… and are….not in a position to have that exact perspective…

        through no fault of your own,of course.

  101. beantownbill. November 23, 2016 at 6:35 pm #

    Following Trump makes me dizzy, what with his swinging one way, then the other. He attacks Hillary mercilessly, promising to jail her, then he says to let her alone. He says he’ll throw out Obamacare on his first day, now he says some parts are good. He unleashes on the ‘failing” NYT, then he says it’s a great, great institution. He talks like an outsider, then he chooses the same ‘ol, same ‘ol for his team. He acts like a paranoiac schizoid.

    Some say he doesn’t want Obama to pardon Hillary, so he’s pretending to not prosecute her. But that’s baloney because Hillary hasn’t been convicted of anything, so she can’t be pardoned. Look at old pictures of Trump scmoozing with her and Bill – doesn’t look like they’ve ever been enemies.
    Which Trump will we get? To my cynical eyes, I have a feeling he’s bamboozled the gullible American public. Well, we’ll find out soon enough. I’d be very nervous if I was Janos.

    • malthuss November 23, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

      There is a book, ‘The Three Faces of Eve,’ but lets not hope DT is
      ‘The Three Faces of Evil.’

    • Janos Skorenzy November 23, 2016 at 8:08 pm #

      You could be right. We’re dealing the mystery of a human heart. The battle line between good and evil rages in every one of them – and often evil wins since “the heart is corrupt beyond all things” as Jeremiah said.

      Don’t get your point about Hillary. He may not be tipping his hand before he has attained office. We’ll see.

      He did this during the campaign too. Strong praise and condemnation – the carrot and the stick are more effective than either by itself. He’s a Master of Management and Manipulation. Danny was jealous that a gentile could be capable of such showmanship, and in his own hometown of New York. The Jews used to be famous for such things – slipping a bit perhaps?

      Meanwhile, your kinsmen threaten violence. Nothing new. The guy himself said, Our Grandfathers used to go bund meetings with baseball bats.…

      • malthuss November 24, 2016 at 11:05 am #

        National editor at Politico Michael Hirsh

  102. BackRowHeckler November 23, 2016 at 6:46 pm #

    … the Beach Boys are wearing sombreros, and Jan and Dean are playing Mariachi …


    • malthuss November 23, 2016 at 6:52 pm #


      • janet November 23, 2016 at 7:45 pm #

        brh is just recognizing la reconquista, the recovery of stolen land.

        • janet November 23, 2016 at 10:21 pm #

          And the preservation of music, culture, and language. Spanish is the first European language spoken in North America. The Spanish arrived before the British did.

  103. Q. Shtik November 24, 2016 at 12:17 am #

    Cold N. Holefield last posted a comment here at CFN on Nov 14 and provided a link to a rant/essay on his own blog, Catcher in the Lie. Cold must be an early to bed early to rise person since he often would be the first or second person to comment on Jim’s latest Monday offering. He would typically make further comments as the week progressed. But that pattern ceased after his Monday Nov 14 comment, for whatever reason.

    Yesterday and again today I pulled up Cold’s Blog and I see that he posted an essay on Nov 17 and then another today, Nov 23. I presume he has some reason for not sharing his thoughts with us for the past 9 days so I will honor his decision and NOT provide a link to his site.

    However, if Cold is monitoring here I’ll mention three things:

    1. You will never be able to drive off the lot for $40K with that F-150 whose interior picture you provided. The leather seats plus state tax will put it in the $45K – $50K range, if not more, depending on goodies.

    2. Trump wants Ben Carson in his cabinet for the photo shoot. There will undoubtedly be a woman or two for the same reason.

    3. Question: Is Trump a serial liar if he doesn’t know he’s lying? When you’re just winging it and your position changes from day to day is that lying? The opening sketch on SNL last Saturday where the Trump character says “Scrap it!,” hilariously plays up these instantaneous reversals of position.

    • Q. Shtik November 24, 2016 at 12:22 am #

      Cold, about that F-150, no need to tell me I’m missing the point.

      • elysianfield November 24, 2016 at 11:56 am #

        Did you miss the reflection of the photographer in the rear view mirror?

    • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 12:31 am #

      Two women already: Indian Nicki and some School Choice/Big donor broad. More Trump genius since he hates the UN and the new governor will be a Trump supporter. And he’s got his visuals as Nicki is a two fer: woman and minority much as Blake’s Fuseli was both Turk and Jew.

  104. Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 12:33 am #

    White Nationalist (or at least favorite of) Comedian takes on beautiful weepers. You will lol…

  105. tucsonspur November 24, 2016 at 2:26 am #

    “It ain’t over until the faithless electors vote”. Janet

    See response a bit above.

  106. Pucker November 24, 2016 at 3:22 am #

    When the Millennials reading fake news on Facebook click “Like” are they like laboratory rats pushing the bar to receive more pleasurable stimulation? They keep clicking “Like” to receive more mental orgasms?

    The “News” itself becomes a form of mental stimulation—Mind Control?

  107. FincaInTheMountains November 24, 2016 at 3:35 am #

    How close were we, really?

    In October 2016 an event occurred which bypassed the wide attention of the world’s major media, journalists and analysts, though its scale and importance was to overshadow the war in Syria, and the West’s conflict with Russia, and even the US presidential election.

    On October 15-18, the Russian Patriarch paid an official visit to Great Britain and met with Queen Elizabeth. The official reason for the visit was the dedication of an Orthodox cathedral Ennismore Gardens, London, the former cathedral of the Anglican Church, which has been used by the Russian Orthodox Church since 1950. But most of the Western media and commentators were upset by the fact that Patriarch Kirill met with Queen Elizabeth.

    In Patriarch the Western commentators mostly saw the Putin’s envoy, which came to influence British policy towards Russia and Syria. Some even linked his visit to blocking of RT accounts by British bank NatWest. However, the words spoken by Queen Elizabeth during a meeting puzzled and completely smashed the expectations of politicians and journalists. The conversation turned on to the Apocalypse, the future world war and the quest o unite all Christians in the global opposition to evil.

    In the presence of the Archbishop of Canterbury, Queen Elizabeth said unexpected words:

    One must now make the necessary preparations to say goodbye to loved ones as one cannot assume who will live and who will die. Many will die in these final days.

    My beloved country is about to enter its darkest period in the coming months as a brutal and apocalyptic war will be waged in the east.

    I am not concerned with the trivialities of Christmas. I am concerned with the terrible consequences we must face as the war drums beat ever stronger

    After meeting with Queen Elizabeth, the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia called on all countries to unite behind the fight to defeat “evil,” the BBC reported.

    “Today’s war on terror should be a joint effort.”

    “This isn’t just Russia’s fight. It’s for all countries, we should unite to defeat this evil,” Kirill said, adding, “And this war I call a holy one.”

  108. FincaInTheMountains November 24, 2016 at 3:39 am #

    WSJ: Donald Trump Jr. Held Talks on Syria With Russia Supporters

    Disclosure of the Paris meetings in October could heighten focus on the president-elect’s desire to cooperate with the Kremlin

    WASHINGTON—Donald Trump’s eldest son, emerging as a potential envoy for the president-elect, held private discussions with diplomats, businessmen and politicians in Paris last month that focused in part on finding a way to cooperate with Russia to end the war in Syria, according to people who took part in the meetings.

    • Florida Power November 24, 2016 at 8:29 am #

      I heard a radio interview with I believe Trump’s eldest son and he was articulate and focused. At the time I thought maybe it’s this guy who should be running for office. When asked about how The Donald was a as a father he remembered the day his dad came home from work and collapsed in a chair and asked his son to get him a coke (The Donald famously does not drink). The son answered flippantly I’m not your maid; get it yourself. Following an explosion the son did indeed fetch the coke and a lesson was learned.

      I offer this as anecdotal antidote to the naysayers responding to our host’s comments regarding Trump’s children. There is meaning there.

  109. Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 4:08 am #

    If you want to understand Elrond and his kind, read this. Individual justice is completely eschewed in favor social justice narratives of completely good downtrodden peoples vs completely evil, privileged Whites. Blacks are absolutely AOK with this as it comes naturally to them. Thus when the Duke Lacrosse Players were being pilloried, Blacks would say things like “they have it coming anyway.” Their existential guilt outweighed whether they actually committed the crime in question. But a White Cop in Chicago who kept firing at a prone Black Boy? Not guilty cuz it would make Rahm look bad. He’s good cuz he’s not White you see….

    • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

      Don’t act as if you know my mind better than I do. I never expressed an opinion one way or the other about the Duke lacrosse team while that was going on, in part because I saw a lot of accusations being made without a lot of evidence. As for the shooting of Laquan McDonald, it was despicable, and I don’t hesitate to say so any more than I hesitate to condemn any crime, lawless action or excessive use of force.

      For what it’s worth since I was a teenager when it happened, I believe on balance of probabilities that Tawana Brawley made up her story. Her stepfather had a history of violence, including murdering his first wife, and had beaten Tawana in the past. So for behaviour that’s hardly unexpected for any teenager, she took advantage of the wider context of racial injustice in order to escape the kind of punishment her stepfather was likely to inflict on her. I forgive her for that, and will continue to make up my mind about cases as they come along, based on the evidence — not on the fact that a teenager lied once, 30 years ago.

      When Charles Kinsey got shot in the leg for no goddamn reason while he was trying to help an autistic kid, commenters on this site brayed derisively about him winning the “ghetto lottery”. That was a police misuse of force so egregious that even the stone racists who infest this comments section couldn’t deny it. So people depict getting shot in the leg for no reason as some kind of gift from Santa Claus, because the cops so obviously owed him some kind of settlement. Meanwhile, this professor C.C. Taylor baldly claims that “the officers in Baltimore did not give Freddie Gray a ride that killed him”, except that’s the actual sequence of events. And he asserts that “a New York City officer did not use an illegal chokehold to kill Eric Garner”, except there’s a fucking video of the cop choking the life out of him, which anyone can see for themselves. Anything to avoid the question of whether the law is actually applied equally, or if some innocent people have real reason to fear the police.

      • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2016 at 1:39 pm #

        And let me make an addendum: Even the guilty have rights. Freddie Gray was arrested on the charge of possessing an illegal weapon, a switchblade. (America is a country that glorifies the possession of guns, which are much more lethal than switchblades and are a lot easier for cowards to use, but let’s leave that aside. The law is the law, after all.)

        The cops placed Freddie Gray under arrest and physically restrained him with handcuffs. They thereby took responsibility for his physical condition. By the time the van ride was over, he was dead of a broken neck. If he somehow “did it to himself”, whatever that means, it was the cops’ responsibility to stop him. If they failed to do so, then they are either incompetent or they have no honour. In either case they shouldn’t be trusted to be crossing guards, much less with the use of lethal force.

        This isn’t about competing storylines, it’s about placing responsibility where it belongs. The cops are responsible for what they do under colour of law. Deal with it.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 3:11 pm #

          Both of those cases look very bad for the police, especially the Eric Garner one. No doubt you want to focus on the White Officers and let the Blacks one alone. That’s what Blacks do: when a Black is killed by a Black officer, Blacks go out and attack Whites. You have much the same mentality as semi-retarded thugs.

          And as far as police brutality against Whites – you know little and care less. This is the Cult – and Elrond is paid up member.

          • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2016 at 4:12 pm #

            “No doubt”, except that’s false. Once again: Don’t act as if you know my mind better than I do. And don’t put words in my mouth.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

        In other words, you have no problem with the “narrative” as you don’t address that at all – and that’s the whole point of the article and my post. You’re fine with making shit up it’s for the greater purpose of White dispossession and genocide. And if innocent Whites are slandered or destroyed, that’s fine. They’re White after all and have it coming.

        None of the big Blacks involved ever apologized to the officers for the Tawana Brawley case. They are scum as are her White enablers. As is the gang of Duke professors frothing at the mouth to lynch the lacrosse players – their own students no less. Scum.

        People have to stop financing these fallen institutions. What the hell is wrong with people? Almost all of colleges have fallen to the Cult and is staffed by people like you.

        • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

          Your condemnations of the “big Blacks” (WTF?) doesn’t pass the laugh test as long as you exude a presumption of guilt for any and all African-Americans from every pore.

          As for narrative, it is indeed a powerful tool, and sometimes the only one capable of bypassing determined bigotry and leading people to the understanding that others are people like themselves. In centuries past, public executions, animal torture such as bear-baiting, and other spectacles of cruelty were common in the West. But they decreased markedly after the invention of the printing press enabled widespread literacy. Reading novels and other new forms of literature opened minds and hearts by exposing people to other points of view, spreading the wisdom of taking the perspectives of others. But the fight, clearly, is never-ending.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 6:15 pm #

            Thank you for pleading guilty. You who would condemn innocent Whites to the hell on earth of incarceration deserve the very same.

            Blacks like Spike Lee and Al Sharpton who supported Brawley have never atoned for their sin of being part of the effort to railroad the officers – nor have they ever apologized to the officers.

  110. FincaInTheMountains November 24, 2016 at 4:12 am #

    Donald Trump Drops Threat of New Hillary Clinton Investigation

    The stability of the West somehow depends on eternal struggle of three main underlying ideologies: the Western White, Red and Black projects. The recent events showed an alliance between the Red and White projects against the Black.

    However, with total domination of just 2 ideologies the West would become a stool on two legs, e.g. inherently unstable.

    In the Financial plane, it represents the temporary alliance between the City of London Money Changers and Financial Control – US intelligence, law enforcement and financial bureaucracy – against the Wall Street Pirates.

    Let the Game go on

  111. FincaInTheMountains November 24, 2016 at 7:23 am #

    Is Trump a serial liar == Mr.Q

    I actually happen to like the last 3 Presidents of the United States, starting from George W. Bush to Obama to Trump.

    And you know, it’s quite a nice feeling, and I express my sympathy to the people who with God’s help will have to live for eight or nine years with hatred for their President.

    Just over two weeks ago I had almost remembered how awful it is – to hate the head of the country in which you live, and even more or less felt for such citizens.

    • malthuss November 24, 2016 at 11:06 am #

      I actually happen to like the last 3 Presidents of the United States, starting from George W. Bush to Obama to Trump.

      You like warmongers.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 3:13 pm #

        What an utterly bizarre thing to say. How can one like Obama and also like Trump? This guy isn’t for real.

        • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2016 at 5:13 pm #

          Your wishful thinking is showing. Trump isn’t a white supremacist, he’s just an unprincipled opportunist. He has already declared he’s not much interested in actually pursuing Hillary Clinton over her e-mails, or any of the other junk promises he made to gain power.

          As for how one can like Obama as well as Trump, clearly it is possible:

          “The Obama Republicans backed President Barack Obama in 2012 and then switched parties to support Donald Trump in 2016. Only 4% of voters fell into this unusual, hybrid category, an analysis of Wall Street Journal/NBC News surveys shows. But their role is more important than that small share suggests. For one, each Obama supporter who cast a ballot for Mr. Trump not only gave the GOP an additional vote but deprived the Democratic Party of an expected one. And the analysis finds that these voters lived disproportionately in the Great Lakes area, a six-state region that includes Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan, which swung from the Democratic column to the GOP in the Electoral College this year.”

          (The WSJ site is paywalled, so I’m quoting from this link.)

          The agenda of the 4% seems clear: anyone who even pretends to be selling “hope” or “change” or “draining the swamp”, as opposed to more of the same, will get their vote. 4% of the electorate is about 10 million people, and it’s even possible they weren’t deluded, as you may have been, into thinking that Trump was actually on their side — they were just expressing their displeasure with the status quo.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 6:20 pm #

            So do you like Trump? If not, why not – since you “liked” (worshiped) Obama?

  112. fodase November 24, 2016 at 11:27 am #

    As more votes accumulate for Hillary, leaving Trump behind by millions of popular votes, more electors lose faith in Trump.

    typical lack of basic knowledge that the candidate with fewer popular votes can win the electoral vote.

    the US and A is not a democracy, see Civics 101.

    also typical ignoring of the fact that democrats engage in wholesale voter fraud, viz. all the cases documented, plus the videos where their get-out-the-vote bigwigs admit as much.

    no matter, you have been soundly defeated for a spate of years to come. your party has no vision beyond necrotic race baiting and division.

    you and your side are finished for a generation, we can only hope.

    have fun engaging in the fantasy of hillary winning the electoral vote, you’ll be even more despondent on Dec. 20 or whenever the tally takes place.

  113. janet November 24, 2016 at 11:30 am #

    Trump is keeping the spotlight on Trump by pretending to be president elect. Rumors of Trump’s win are premature. Neither by popular vote nor by electoral vote (scheduled for Dec. 19).

    As Volodya said so well, events are moving fast. Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein’s call to raise funds to support vote recounts in three key states was met with ease late Wednesday, with the fundraiser reaching its $2 million goal in less than one day. After the votes are counted correctly Trump will not win in the electoral college or in the popular vote.

    • elysianfield November 24, 2016 at 12:02 pm #

      “After the votes are counted correctly Trump will not win in the electoral college or in the popular vote.”

      Be that the case, it would be a good time not to be a cop….

      • janet November 24, 2016 at 2:15 pm #

        You cannot murder so many unarmed Black citizens at “traffic stops” and then get all uppity when armed police start being murdered. Those who live by the sword, die by the sword, Jesus said.

        • elysianfield November 25, 2016 at 11:14 am #

          You cannot murder so many unarmed Black citizens at “traffic stops” and then get all uppity when armed police start being murdered. Those who live by the sword, die by the sword, Jesus said.”

          Murder so many? How many? A statistically insignificant number considering the hundreds of millions of car stops each week. There is no cause for defense of a few of the more-egregious shootings…women and reserves were involved in two of the worst. However, on a car stop, when the occupant becomes enraged/unruly/combative, or even non-compliant, even JESUS would, as is often said in the ghetto…”slap the black right off you…”, and he would do it with love, I recon. Yea, and verily….

  114. FincaInTheMountains November 24, 2016 at 1:25 pm #

    Hillary sends her best to the Nation on Thanksgiving Day

    The head of the “Green Party” election campaign, David Cobb announced that the Green Party, which just a few days ago was in a deep financial hole, had gotten $ 2.5 million necessary to initiate a manual recount, and will initiate it by Friday.

    The Pennsylvania bickers already sounded the general alarm, as now in Michigan results are too close for the announcement of the winner, and if Hillary would get 16 Michigan electors, then to change the electoral college she needs electors of Wisconsin, which Trump won by just 27,000 votes and voting results in which has already been challenged by John Podesta, and the electors of Pennsylvania, which Trump won by a margin of 70,000 votes.

    The funny thing is that the electronic voting machines in Pennsylvania were installed in the ’90s and do not have access to the Internet, but as you know, nothing is impossible for us, the Russian hackers.

    Green party, or rather its manager David Cobb, arose because Hillary has recognized the election results in exchange for Trump ignoring her faking the election results in California, and I have serious concerns that poor David Cobb decided on his own skin to taste the manner in which Hillary Clinton deals with key witnesses.

  115. janet November 24, 2016 at 3:05 pm #

    Clinton only needs 20 GOP “faithless” electors to go rogue and vote instead for her, a cakewalk given how Trump has dissed the Republican Party, a sweet revenge party waiting to happen… a big “fuck you” to Trump’s plans to run his family business out of the White House for his own personal gain.

  116. fodase November 24, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

    You cannot murder so many unarmed Black citizens at “traffic stops” and then get all uppity when armed police start being murdered.

    The 6 freddie gray cops were all acquitted (black judge, black jury members et al).

    the cop who did in mike brown (?) was acquitted.

    the cops who took down eric garner were all not charged. plus the police sargeant who oversaw the takedown is black and did nothing to stop it despite being 3 feet away. see the following video and go to approx. 1:40 to see the black female cop overseeing his takedown (which was wholly unnecessary)

    plus, eric garner’s daughter said his takedown had nothing to do with racism.

    yet another lefty loony lie about systemic racism shattered by the truth.

    • janet November 24, 2016 at 4:08 pm #

      Police impunity. You’re proving my point.

  117. fodase November 24, 2016 at 4:31 pm #

    as usual, it is entirely impossible to reason with unreasonable individuals.

    key word being ‘reason’.

  118. nsa November 24, 2016 at 7:07 pm #

    Special place in hell dept: Jooie Jill……greenie extraordinaire, rug muncher of the unshaven leg variety, quack, multi-millionairess fits right into the leftie-greenie mold…Bernie with his 3 houses, Gore with his low bank CA waterfront (rising sea level?), etc. Campaign filings indicate the Goddess of CO2 had some $8.5 mil tied up in smaller alternative outfits like…..Chevron, Duke Nuke, Exxon, Conoco, Toho, JP Morgan, Deutsche, Citigroup, Merck, Allergen, Raytheon, Phillip Morris, etc.

    • janet November 24, 2016 at 8:12 pm #

      Trump is about to feel the Power of Green. Within hours, Stein’s fundraiser rapidly gained traction. Just after 11 p.m. EST, supporters had donated $1.9 million, then it climbed past $2 million before midnight. The goal was surpassed about eight hours after Stein’s announcement was delivered over Facebook Live. Just before 3 a.m. EST, the fund surpassed $2.5 million. By Thursday evening, that total had soared passed $4 million mark. Trump is toast.

      • janet November 24, 2016 at 9:21 pm #

        Boo hoo. Jill Stein to the rescue in three key states, flipping the election, and thereby stopping the Trump farce of using the presidency as a marketing channel for Trump business and Trump’s personal profit at taxpayer expense.

      • InquiringMind1 November 25, 2016 at 3:14 am #


        Indeed,… there are still a lot of people in denial about who won the election….and.they are TRULY…. “grasping at straws”….. even if this did raise so much money…

        Even if they do spin straw into gold……as in the story of Rumpelstiltskin…

        It would be better spent on defending the Native Americans trying to protect their water supply and sacred ancestral land from that pipeline.

        I respected Jill Stein for her stance on this much more… it did not seem as “Quixotic”

  119. Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2016 at 9:03 pm #

    Satellite cameras are turned outward toward their true object. Likewise, everything else is turned around in the same way.

  120. KesaAnna November 24, 2016 at 10:48 pm #

    Small scale and local — Yeah, but not even here.

    In a healthy republic you would expect to see a passionate interest in state house elections, or, even more importantly, who gets elected dog catcher , or the all-important post of serving eviction orders and repossession orders.

    A fixed obsession with who gets elected to be the next Tsar on Mars indicates something other than a democratic ethic.

    Fascism ?

    ok, I’ll say it again, ” Fascism” is the grossest kind of self-flattery.

    You much more resemble the Tsarists who couldn’t even win at Port Arthur .
    Or, better yet, the Chinese Mandarins ; Manchu’s dressed up in traditional Chinese costume , devious eunuchs, entitled and bitter concubines.

    Space exploration ?
    It doesn’t take rocket science smarts to figure out that colonies on Mars would resemble North Korea far more than they could ever resemble the Wild West , or even much-beloved contemporary American suburbia.
    Space is an entirely hostile environment, one minor mistake equals death. So it will necessitate a total environment — like prison.

    Speaking of prison, societies which venerate the military , let alone the police ( even the denizens of the Third Reich looked apon the police as trash ) are invariably miserable places , or well on their way to misery. the mind that venerates the soldier is a mind that takes prison as the norm, and so prefers the pretty window-dressing that is the guards, to the reality which is the inmates.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2016 at 1:44 pm #

      Culture means getting people on the same page. Your desire to do your own thing simply means living in a garbage dump. There is no freedom as you imagine it. But yes, you do have the right to live a life that is nasty, brutish, and short. Your yes to life, is a no to Life.

  121. KesaAnna November 24, 2016 at 11:22 pm #

    Now for some really stupid shit ;

    “Those of us not in Trump’s favored race and gender are honestly afraid of having rights taken away.”

    There are an ESTIMATED ( they don’t even know the exact figure ! ) 10,000 + federal laws.
    Not counting state or local laws , or foreign laws . ( Yes, believe it or not, you can wind up in the jug in the USA because you broke a law in a country you have never visited , and know nothing about. See , for example, the Lacey Act, and read it very carefully )

    I think I can safely say , that unless you live about 300 years, and spend that time entirely in a law library , and have a perfect memory, there is no way you could possibly know what your rights are, if any.

    superficially, it is extremely unlikely such a thing exists except as a faireytale that adults tell other adults.

  122. FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2016 at 7:58 am #

    While some corrupt politician are pushing for a new Civil War in US by means of “vote recount”, Trump continues his war with transnational corporations and actively reports his progress on his Facebook –…

    He wrote that he’s working over the Thanksgiving Day and on weekends in order to prevent the company Carrier A.C. to close the plant in the state of Indiana.

    He says that “there is progress.”

  123. FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2016 at 8:09 am #

    Democratic senators and congressmen from the Clinton group found the source of Trump funding and are sounding the alarm.

    No, it’s not Putin and the KGB. It is Deutsche Bank, which six times helped Trump to restore his financial situation after bankruptcy.

    Now Clintonoids write open letters and worry that Trump will save Deutsche Bank from astronomical fines, which were issued by US Department of Justice in retaliation for the European Commission’s tax claims against Apple’s and its Irish offshore companies.

    It is unlikely that Trump will call prosecutors with threats, but he now does have a lot of leverage to support Deutsche Bank, which, ironically, has so far refused to support Angela Merkel. Most likely, she would still have to support the Deutsche Bank under the pressure of political necessity and German business, but without a political “gun to her temple,” there was little chance of that Clintonoid Merkel will rescue the German giant.

    By the way, this is a very beautiful example of what is now the main conflict in the world between a coalition of “Nationalists” (in the sense of “national elites”) and cohesive “supra-national oligarchy and the bureaucracy.”

  124. BackRowHeckler November 25, 2016 at 8:15 am #

    Hey, who murdered the police officers in San Antonio and Detroit? What was the motive? This has to end. President elect Trump contacted both families to offer his condolences … haven’t heard from Black Lives Matter or Al Sharpton; do you think they’ll remain Guests of Honor at the White House and the Justice Dept. from here on in?

    Meanwhile, in other news, 4 white teenage Catholic HS girls robbed and beaten in the Bronx by black street gang. Heard anything about it? Oh, it wasn’t on CNN? In London, 2 police officers stomped and beaten bloody by ‘Youths’, and ‘Schoolchildren’. Youths and Schoolchildren? Video shows fierce African migrants kickin the sh=t out of white police officers while shouting “You raciss!”

    “Hate Crime laws being strengthened in light of Trump election” Headline in our local rag. Do these so called ‘Hate Crime Laws’ work both ways, or just one way? Alls i can say, the way things are now, I don’t have any young daughters. Even you lefties have to be a little bit nervous.


    • stelmosfire November 25, 2016 at 10:54 am #

      Marlin, Urban CT is a lost cause as are many areas of MA. and Other blue areas. Simple solution! stay out of these areas, or pack a Ruger 357 Security Six
      Decent Hispanics and blacks are all horrified by the state
      of affairs with violence (By their kin) directed toward decent white and black people in these areas.Other reactive groups(Foreign students, BLM,,anti-US agitators) .are upset. They blame whitey for their problems, but in fact the problem lies within their apathy,self-loathing, no forward-thinking, a Total lack of respect of law for their fellow man.If you tow the conservative and sensible line; you are branded a Trump ( isolationist)Fascist .I say let the common man prevail. May common sense reign over this great tragedy, raging across the land and finally bring a cohesive peace to this country of ours. I have dealt with the public and have seen their world in a 33 year career as a FF/EMT. (In their worst possible moments.)I have been confronted as a Whitey, honkey, Whitebread .ETC., I don’t care, a life is a life.Reality is a concept that exists in the mind. “BLACKS LIFES DON”T MATTER”, No “ALL LIVES MATTEER”. Reality is the a common community, Most of the shootings are black on black, and that will continue for the foreseeable future.Lets see the MSM focus on the issue. NOT!

      • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2016 at 1:41 pm #

        Equality is was has damned us. Blacks aren’t our equal, not in any way. Nor do they believe in equality anyway. Even a superficial acquaintance with them reveals their desire to dominate, a desire they don’t criticize in themselves in any way.

    • malthuss November 25, 2016 at 10:56 am #

    • Q. Shtik November 25, 2016 at 1:15 pm #

      [Alls] i can say,



    • InquiringMind1 November 26, 2016 at 3:15 am #

      hello brh,

      Well,…. you have exposed something that has been going on in back alleys and in obscure lots ,etc. for about 50 years and gone mostly unreported until the Internet and other social media begin to FINALLY blow the whistle on it ! And this has affected elections for as long America’s dirty little secret.

      Do little innocent white progressives know anything about this? This yak yak about non- white victim stuff has truly began to lose it’s charm on the white electorate simply because TOO MANY of the white electorate TODAY and even since KENNEDY have been victimized THEMSELVES!!!

      The utter SILENCE on the part of black and other progressive political leaders about THIS VERY PROBLEM has earned them the vacuum jumped into by the Alt Right … now,…..(.and it probably helped….. Nixon and other Republicans before even Trump was a sparkle in anyone”S eye. Yea,,,did this white bashing come back to bite America?

      That reticence on the part of many in the white electorate to vote Democrat was EARNED my friends..YEA…..always….. the platitudes about non-white pain …and then while whites were getting wronged by the Democrat’s special PETS!

      Many in the white electorate get a dose of this stuff daily from the MSM .

      So it was so easy to ignore their daily s3528@! about Trump.

      Where was their concern for white victims all these years?

      We thought blacks were finally getting over it about the time Obama came along. So many whites voted for him because he seemed decent enough and was appealing to ALL Americans so whites extended the OLIVE Branch and tried to show black Americans…. of course….that. we have tried to move on. And we have met and known many decent black Americans. too.

      But many white Americans know from sad personal experience that there are many blacks “out there” that have traveled in “packs” for DECADES that can only be described as sociopaths! Way… Way before gangs…. there were PACKS They form these packs in the high schools and fight among themselves,,,,I have watched girls pull each others hair out while their friends stood and watched….and left the loser laying on the ground and walked away. They have no decency at the core. It is ALL about them and ALL about power .Talk about the mark of the BEAST.

      Why are the public schools even still standing where this goes on?

      And if you watch the people who claim to be diverse Dems it is always this on T V …

      Always Always only concern about THEIR OWN

      SELF INTEREST is what it is all about. The BIG HUSTLE

      All about them…..from their leaders…. ,political reps….radical groups…….MSM reporters even.

      You know,…Maybe it IS time whites got this self interested too.

      To the whites that are still trying to be nice and selfless and pure and “progressive” and inclusive out there………..


      If you want to know what sank Bernie’s campaign……

      And yes he would have won…

      Bernie had a chance until one day….when those two girls from Black Lives Matter showed up at his speech on the west coast in some liberal city……..

      And showed themselves!

      It was “pack girl ” behavior ALL over again. They got in his face and Pointed the Finger ,…… vociferously …..and the rest is history.

      This is how they treat gentle white men.

      It is sad because every time I think whites can show sympathy to a black cause it gets destroyed by actions like this.

      this was the first impression made about the BLM on massive numbers of whites…

      ……….and first impressions matter,I have heard.


  125. FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2016 at 8:18 am #

    Bloomberg (apparently in a light shock) informs readers that “Western companies are pouring money into Russia”…

    The article mentions IKEA, Leroy Merlin, Mars, Pfizer, who “renewed investment in Russia.”

    Good for them. Businesses, of course, from time to time suffer from bouts of collective idiocy, but certainly less than political scientists, journalists and other lovers of abstract “destroyed Russian economy”.

  126. janet November 25, 2016 at 10:57 am #

    Calm down brh. We have checks and balances.

    The number of faithless electors is growing and the recounts will take stolen key states back, nullifying the intervention of a foreign power in our electoral process, thereby frustrating putin’s plans and sending orange hitler back to manhattan.

  127. Elrond Hubbard November 25, 2016 at 11:01 am #

    Level-headed man won’t judge Trump until he reads harrowing account of presidency written by 13 year-old Jewish girl forced to hide in attic…

    TORONTO – Despite over a year of divisive campaigning and hundreds of inflammatory comments, local man Derek Miller says he’ll only condemn Trump if a publishing house releases the affecting memoir of a young Jewish girl forced to go into hiding to avoid being killed by Trump’s totalitarian regime.

    “Listen, we need to give him a chance,” said Miller, of the man who opened his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists. “Sure, he said all those awful things but that doesn’t mean he’s going to do awful things. I’ll believe he’s dangerous after I see the first-hand account written by a scared Jewish adolescent forced to live in the walls of a friend’s home.”

    • Janos Skorenzy