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The Dead Rise on John Street
You might have noticed that the massive investment in Halloween yard shrines by families growing broke in America reflects the ghoulish convergence of malevolent events undermining and overtaking what used to be normal life in this land. Nothing is normal anymore. The groaning mummies, howling werewolves, and shrieking skeletons are trying to tell us something.
The message might be: detach from reality long enough and death comes creeping ’round your door. You see where consensual madness has gotten us? Believe enough things that are not true and nemesis comes roaring in, all fangs and claws, to gleefully shred you. So. Maybe it’s time to stop believing things that are not true.
Start with the first principle of US life in our time: that anything goes and nothing matters. This proposition has ruled for as long as most of us can remember. Consequence was exiled on Main Street so you can get away with anything now — until you discover that, somehow, everything is broken. Your livelihood is broken. Your community is broken. Your household is broken. Your car is broken. Your children are broken. Your health is broken. Your faith is broken. Your country is broken.
Here’s a first principle worth considering: court death and it will oblige you. Granted, there is a certain libido for nonexistence in the human psyche because life is so hard sometimes that you yearn to be relieved of it. But not everyone in America seeks to walk that way. Probably fewer than half of us. So why do we allow that other half to drag us to the bone orchard? Do you see what it means to get your mind right when times get hard and the path is uncertain?
Everybody knows that a ghoul was installed in the now-haunted White House. And everybody knows that the method of his installation was a fraud, a gigantic falsehood. The catch is that the fewer than half of us liked it that way, they celebrated it, did a victory dance, and then rubbed it in with prosecutions against the rest of us who saw exactly what happened and didn’t like it. They acted like it didn’t matter what you saw.
They tried to control the transmission of ideas and sentiment about these matters by placing half the CIA and the FBI on Facebook, Twitter, and Google. Nice try, but only cads and fools think that you can stuff reality in a black box, lock it up, and throw away the key. Reality has Houdini-like powers to escape because reality is true magic. Reality is the ultimate super-power. Reality is not some asshole in a spandex suit with a cape and a mask. Reality is the white light that reveals the world.
Reality is telling us that the war project in Ukraine started by the neocon pseudopod of our Deep State blob is not working out. The fiasco could not be more rank. Instead of weakening Russia, it crippled the USA. V. Putin is not the enemy of Western Civ, he’s one of its last remaining defenders. Was it not in everyone’s interest that for seventy-five years Ukraine existed as an inert borderland, making trouble for nobody, itself especially? Could we not respect that reality and leave it alone?
Reality is telling us that Israel refuses to be massacred out of existence. Israel will defend itself with us or without us. It’s possible they’ll manage it intelligently. You might ask: will we defend ourselves against the same antagonist that wants to wipe all of Western Civ off the face of the earth, us included? Notice that your own will to survive is being subverted by useful idiots while warrior cadres of mysterious origin pour across the Mexican border. Everyone knows it’s a clear and present danger and who will move to stop the invasion? Do we have to wait for a catastrophe?
Who is “Joe Biden” working for? Wouldn’t you like to know? Not much is left of him in mind or body, though he made a fortune in a short span of years for doing effectively nothing but retailing his favor before landing so uncannily in the seat of power. The truth about it is all over the place now and might provoke constitutional procedures that will induce the de-platforming he likely deserves. All that is going to unspool now whether The New York Times pays attention to it or not, and no matter what the fewer than half of us want to pretend about the evil legerdemain that put him where he is.
The extended festival of ghouls and dancing skeletons comes to an end in a week with the Day of the Dead, also known as All Saints Day. That is your cue to stop celebrating wickedness for its own sake. Remember, we are the living. While we are here, we have an obligation to those who come after us. The dead can take care of themselves. It is possible to have faith in ourselves. Even as the days grow shorter, the people of this land can gather in the remaining light instead of worshipping the darkness. A new season will be upon us soon. Hark, the herald angels sing!
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I have often wondered if the fascination with zombies has roots in our social disarray.
Thanks JHK
The opposite of Satan, the purveyor of death, is something we gave up a long time ago and will outlive all of us, especially the USA.
And Satan treats his disciples even worse than those of us who are his enemies…he respects us..We must all heed the words of Solzhenitsyn…if evil shall (temporarily) triumph, it shall not be through our words or deeds…
Does Satan treat his disciples worse? From what I see these days the wicked, the perverted, the debauched, the reprobates, they are all filthy rich and finding positions of power and glory. I disagree. Satan appears to reward his minions handsomely. God, however, rewards his followers with pain, sickness, suffering and even death all for the “promise” of greater rewards to come.
Makes sense doesn’t it? Maybe it’s true but it sure doesn’t help lighten the load with today’s burdens.
Just saying…
E. Michael Jones has argued that the rise of the horror genre is a reaction to all of the depravity that arose after The Enlightenment and French Revolution.
Makes sense…But legends of vampires and werewolves long preceded modern history…
We are a culture that worships death. Everything is about death and violence now. Abortion is celebrated and fought to uphold, the literal murder of a baby, is a protected right in many of our states today. is this so different from the ancient Israelites who sacrificed their children upon the altars of Baal?
Most movies produced today involve violence, murder, rape or demonic images. Rarely do movies today involve love, justice, peace, light and love for God with moral people.
Video games, mostly, are violent.
All of this seems to coincide with the gradual debasement of God in our society. As religion continues to succumb to the powers of godlessness that void is filled with a new religion that everyone tries to deny is actually a religion. Godlessness is a religion. It is replaced with violence, death, debasement and debauchery.
Only a return to the light will save us.
Unreasoning, sowing chaos, driven to eat the remnants of productive society, whose laws and institutions have failed … seems like a perfect metaphor for leftism to me.
I’ve been avoiding the news on mainstream media for a week and I’m glad I did. Watching CNN, CBC, CBS, ABC, and NBC it’s hard not to feel helpless, confused, hopeless and think that nothing we do matters. I think it’s called learned helplessness and I think the media has programmed it into populace just like mass formation psychosis because it allows the deep state to demoralize and divide the population and divert attention from it’s own nefarious activities like giving billions of dollars in aid to terrorist organizations like Hamas through middlemen like Iran while claiming they are standing with Israel or allowing NATO to encircle Russia, thereby leading to a long and bloody proxy war and official internet censorship that might expose the truth. I’m done rambling for now and want to thank JHK for another excellent and incisive post. Now if only we could get rid of Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau and let the adults take charge in Washington and Ottawa.
RaymondR,
Of course it does! The prevalence of zombies and death is a largely unconscious projection of our collective malaise. Remember the Skulls? A few years’ back they were there on damn near everything, like an ‘in-your-face’ message that almost everyone buying, wearing, tattooing, gifting and trading in them failed to pickup: “REMEMBER, YOU MUST DIE”!
There was one skull in particular that was particularly effective in conveying this message. It was basically a hollow-eyed, narrow-chined Skull superimposed over a mushroom cloud. it was scary as fuck! I’m sure people bought them by the ton and wore them doing the most mundane things: cutting their grass, washing their cars, eating, etc., etc., etc. . . .
Paul, yes. Is this over now? Did it “jump the shark” with the dentists on thirty thousand dollar Harleys? Thank God!
“Oh, see my scary skull! Better not mess with me!”
So ridiculous.
Easy metaphor for those that are on autopilot just doing as there told. Getting and taking the jab. Only painting there mailbox the right color, ect.
21st century term is NPC’s…
Be it zombies or npc’s we got a lot and it is their world now.
Truly magnificent piece today.
Agreed. As close to poetry as written prose can be. Our host has a unique talent for distilling today’s complex realities into their fundamental parts, and then displaying the basic trade space of our choices starkly. It has kept me reading him for as long as JHK has been on the internet.
Sparks – you are right on. Excellent summary. I hope Jim outlives me by at least 25 years. If he does predecease me though, I will wear black for a month, at least.
Jim – you’ve chided me before for any discussion of your demise, but you have to give me a pass for now, given this time of year. Spooky and all.
Agreed
My money is still on the “Alien Invasion” for this April, and I don’t mean the one on our southern border….Project Bluebeam anyone…..
steppingup – I still have the other side of that trade – I say “No Alien Invasion” for this April, but April only, could be May, June or July.
That would be very scarily interesting. The Chinese saying rides again.
There is already an invasion going on, but not aliens, Cyborgs. Somewhere deep down underground around Long Beach, CA they are already engaged. They say it is just some earthquakes. Stay tuned.
Let the invasion of the C.H.U.D.s and Sleestack begin! I’m ready!
If you know about the Sleestack, you are truly one of the Elect.
“April is the cruelest month…”
I confess to not knowing what the quote at the top means.
Beryl – I take it as, we’re at the mercy of the decisions of the all the pussies that think they’re tough guys – Biden, Milley, Sullivan, Blinken, et al.
Would anyone be surprised if that fake general Milley was secretly into drag? He just has that look about him.
Yes, he could dress up and go on a date with Rachel Levine – a lesbian date – two men dressing up like women on a lesbian date. Is that even possible?
Anything is possible.
Levine could pick Milley up in his Subaru.
Possible? One of the cable networks could turn it into a TV reality show.
“They came from different worlds. One was a warrior; one was a healer. Can they find happiness together promoting vaccines, drag queens, and twisted RNA genes?”
Probably did that already.
“Did that already” referring to the date between the two men. I’m pretty sure there’s a stripe for that somewhere on that flag.
Is it possible? I met an old friend who I hadn’t seen in years since we were in collage and he introduced me to his husband. YUK. PHOOEY. I left for an urgent meeting.
Yes, I’m pretty sure it’s been done.
Love the promo, Hmuller!
subaru for a drag date? that’s so oughts…
hereabouts, the drag ride of choice is a…
prius
(no, not priapus, that’s the white supremicist version)
Milley and Levine are old guys. They’re not hip to the Pious.
The Walking Dead has become a reality TV show.
Actually, I don’t think either a Subaru or a Prius has ever been in a drag race. Oh, sorry, we’re talking about a drag date, my bad.
(Dr.) Levine & (General) Milley were classmates at the Belmont Hill School in Belmont MA, a suburb of Boston. Levine DOB is 10/28/57 & Milley DOB is 6/20/58. Small world isn’t it?
The plot thickens. Massachusetts makes sense for both of them.
And Belmont was also the home of Welch, the founder of John Birch. Many think that he fell into darkness – at least at the end. Always covering for the Tribe.
And they are at the top of the pyramid cuz their personalities are Passive Aggression and the willingness to use it.
That personality works in this society because reasons. I don’t really rightly know why it works to get ahead, but it does.
Obv they can’t be socked in the jaw, much less tried (lawfully) and hanged, but in a better world, they would be.
“Reality is telling us that Israel refuses to be massacred out of existence.”
Reality has also told us that Israel was massacred INTO existence.
Unless you’re going with faith-based-facts.
Is it time to go with faith based facts?
Already done. True colors just finally showing.
Reality should tell you that every country on earth was massacred into existence.
Nothing is more comical and pathetic than the effete bedwetters whining when this reality hurts their fee-fees or the wrong group is doing the massacre-ing.
Perhaps. But JHK is talking about reality in this blog-post, and he is calling the massacre of the Palestinians in Gaza right now by the Israelis “Israel defending itself”, and that is not the reality of the situation. Not only that, much of the Western Civilization he so reveres in that paragraph has been rising up in mass protest of the massacre despite such demonstrations being banned in a few countries by captured globalist governments. I don’t expect to disabuse JHK or much of the American right of their blind-spot for Israel, but I’m going to call a spade a spade when somebody tries to call it a diamond or a heart.
It strikes me as odd that in a blog specifically dedicated to the ramifications of the collapse of the “world order” and the postwar anomaly that anybody can manifest such delicate sensibilities. The world is, to paraphrase Hunter Thompson, “on a survival trip” and the survival of Us almost always means (and has almost always meant) the elimination of Them. The niceties of international law and giving a shit about world opinion were all fantasies brought about by a once in a planet’s lifetime abundance that is going away. The world is simply reverting to the metric of each country and group doing what it must to survive. You may find that objectionable but the reality of history, both past and future, doesn’t really care about your objection. You like everybody else will soon have to pick a side and woe unto those who don’t understand that blood is thicker than water.
Btw, the demonstrations you speak of are largely populated by “enemies inside the gates” of Western Civilization who would just as soon “decolonize” Western Civilization as Israel. A preview, if you will, of coming attractions…
Well, I can’t help but find it sad and alarming that some people seem to think that we should deal with the oncoming crisis of population and resources by reverting to our most base instincts, as those instincts are going to have access to nuclear weapons this time around. But if the only way we know how to respond to such crises is reversion to those instincts, perhaps our extinction as a species was always a tragic inevitability.
Wow, you guys had a great exchange, thanks!
@Robot:
To call a spade a spade, what about the 1,000 or so killed by Hamas in a sneak attack? Or is the murder of American citizens ok? Or is blowing up the Palestinians’ own hospital by Hamas ok, too?
You know nothing, really.
Did Bibi want it to happen?
Quit putting words in my mouth, asshole.
And BTW, you’re also an idiot if you believe that Hamas were the ones who blew up that hospital.
Bill,
I don’t have a score card, can you please tally up the dead and disposed on both teams and give us a current score?
Seems to me the Israeli’s are waaaaaay ahead, so far.
You can’t break it down tit-for-tat, but you have a point…
Both sides in this have to look at themselves in the mirror and ask, “what did you expect was gonna happen?”
fer sure…
This is what you get from a people harshly constrained, muted, censored and ignored.
And this is what you get when you drop in on a party and shoot the place up. This is what you get.
This war didn’t start Oct 07.
What was different is that Israelis got to experience the crimes Palestinians experience every day.
We can debate whether Israel bombed the hospital deliberately or by accident, or whether Hamas did it.
I believe Israel did it. But let’s say it was a stray Hamas rocket (and if Hamas had rockets that powerful, why would they NOT use them on Israel).
What about the other 10,000-plus bombs that Israel is dropping?
I guess it’s OK. If you can, if people don’t like you, just kill them. They are “Terrorist Accomplices”
The truth is harsh mistress. To be clear, in the 1930s the Germans began harassing Jews. Once WW2 was in full swing, the Germans began exterminating them.
This ghastly crime against humanity was a huge boost to the creation of the state of Israel.
The deplorable tactics that technology allowed people to see this crimes (most of which I think were actual, some may have been doctored, aka the flying Hamas troops) wasn’t present in 1947-48, when Jewish gangs like the Irgun and Stern used these same tactics against Palestinians.
So, basically the Palestinians are paying for the sins of the Gerrmans.
Is the murder of American citizens OK? I guess it is, when it’s done by the IDF, who attacked the USS Liberty in 1967, to take it out, so they could carry out their sneak attack on the Arabs. 32 KIA, 150-plus wounded.
And the Israelis treatment of the NATIVE Palestinians is similar to the early days of the Holocaust.
And why not? The Israeli lobby controls US policy.
But let’s say Americans wake up and say enough.
Then, Israel will bare her teeth. They have nuclear missiles and nuclear subs that can attack anyone, anywhere. Nuclear blackmail.
That’s why Israel has never negotiated in good faith.
And if one is a Palestinian with no hope and no prospects, why not strike back?
Ever hear of the Warsaw Uprising, 1943? These poor Jews had enough. They were going to die anyway, so they struck. It took the Germans more than a few days–more like weeks, to “secure the area”. These Hamas folks are way beyond that. “The world is going to ignore us? OK!”
Read The Samson Option by Seymour Hersh.
The older I get. The more ornery I become. Were the Palestinians defending themselves when they attacked Israel? If some other nation attacked America and killed hundreds, I would say retaliate and kill thousands. If they killed thousands of my people. Then retaliate and kill a hundred thousand. What do you expect. Turning the cheek is not an option. We’ll be going back to the 18th century if we’re lucky, or to the stone age if not.
You seem to be saying that you believe in radically disproportionate responses. I do not.
If history has taught us anything it’s that human beings will do anything to advance an agenda, or protect something they feel is in jeopardy. We remember the Slaughter of the Innocents, where Herod ordered the murder of all Hebrew baby boys up to the age of three, I believe.
I’d say more realistic, sir.
Not possible that there was a) a breach in security without triggering a massive response, b) not responding for hours after the fact, c) Hamas does not act on its own without permission- it is a creation of Israel and the US- they openly admit that fact.
Wow, this robot, fed with junk propaganda of Islamic liars and their western stooges, is now the ultimate authority telling us what is what! Reminds me of that man caught in bed with another lady by his wife returning home unexpectedly. In great indignation he declared, “Who do you believe, me or your lying eyes?!”
Reminds me of the old movie, I think it was Marriage American Style, where the cheating husband, actor Robert Morse, is caught in bed with another woman when his wife comes home. Hilariously, he convinces her that what she saw didn’t happen. Although morally repugnant, it was incredibly funny.
Indeed, a spade is a spade.
It’s been the case for centuries and now the whole world sees it Live on video which no amount of spin, no matter how dirty or deluded, can help.
Alfred,
Yes.
Great essay today.
Except JHK once again has it backwards with the Israel piece. And again, the cognitive dissonance re Joe Biden, who is now incriminating the USA in genocide even more deeply than heretofore.
And resource theft.
Religion and victimology (Never again!! shriek the perps) are so convenient when you are actually slobbering over the oil and gas that are under your prisoners’ property.
Hey, that’s OUR natural gas and oil under the West Bank and off the shore of Gaza!!!
See “Palestine’s Forgotten Oil and Gas Resources” (except, “forgotten” should be in scare quos)
“. . . A recent study by the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) points out that new discoveries of natural gas in the Levant Basin are in the range of 122 trillion cubic feet, while recoverable oil is estimated at 1.7 billion barrels. These reserves offer an opportunity to distribute and share about $524bn among the different parties in the region.
“The Israeli military occupation of Palestinian territories since 1967 and the blockade of the Gaza Strip since 2007 have prevented the Palestinian people from exercising any control over their own fossil fuel resources, denying them much-needed fiscal and export revenues and leaving the Palestinian economy on the verge of collapse. . . .
”
“Since the blockade of Gaza in 2007, the Israeli government has established de facto control over Gaza’s offshore natural gas reserves. The contractor, British Gas, has since been dealing with the Israeli government, effectively bypassing the Palestinian government regarding exploration and development rights.
“Israel has also taken control of the Meged oil and natural gas field, located inside the occupied West Bank. Israel states that the field lies west of the armistice line of 1948, yet most of the reservoir is situated beneath the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967. . . .
“More recently, Israel has begun to develop new oil and gas finds in the Eastern Mediterranean, solely for its own benefit.. . .
“The 1995 Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West Bank and Gaza Strip, known as the Oslo II Accord, gave the Palestinian Authority (PA) maritime jurisdiction over its waters up to 20 nautical miles from the coast. The PA signed a 25-year contract for gas exploration with the British Gas Group in 1999, and a large gas field, Gaza Marine, was discovered at 17 to 21 nautical miles off the coast of Gaza the same year. However, despite initial discussions between the Israeli government, the PA and British Gas on the sale of gas from this field and the provision of much-needed revenue to the occupied Palestinian territories, the Palestinians have not realised any benefits. . . .
“Israel has also taken control of the Meged oil and natural gas field, located inside the occupied West Bank. Israel states that the field lies west of the armistice line of 1948, yet most of the reservoir is situated beneath the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967.. . .
“In commandeering and exploiting Palestinian oil and gas resources, Israel is acting in violation of the letter and the spirit of the Hague Regulations, the Fourth Geneva Convention and a body of international humanitarian and human rights law that addresses the exploitation of common resources by an occupying power, without regard for the interest, rights and shares of the occupied population. . . .”
Let’s just be *honest.*
By *honoring* the *reality* of what is *really* transpiring.
—Islander
P.S.
Here is the UNCTAD study:
“The Economic Costs of the Israeli Occupation for the Palestinian People: The Unrealized Oil and Natural Gas Potential”
“Geologists and natural resources economists have confirmed that the Occupied Palestinian Territory lies above sizeable reservoirs of oil and natural gas wealth, in Area C of the occupied West Bank and the Mediterranean coast off the Gaza Strip. However, occupation continues to prevent Palestinians from developing their energy fields so as to exploit and benefit from such assets. As such, the Palestinian people have been denied the benefits of using this natural resource to finance socioeconomic development and meet their need for energy. The accumulated losses are estimated in the billions of dollars. The longer Israel prevents Palestinians from exploiting their own oil and natural gas reserves, the greater the opportunity costs and the greater the total costs of the occupation borne by Palestinians become.
httpX://unctad.org/publication/economic-costs-israeli-occupation-palestinian-people-unrealized-oil-and-natural-gas
exactly – the wider story is worth reading:
A Century of War – Engdahl
.amazon.com/Century-War-Anglo-American-Politics-World/dp/1615774920/ref=sr_1_1?crid=N688K7LNST6S&keywords=a+century+of+war&qid=1698074843&sprefix=a+century+of+w%2Caps%2C85&sr=8-1
“This is a story about power, power over entire nations and continents. The story describes the vehicle to that unparalleled power over nations, oil, and the vital role it has played in peace as well as wars in the past century. Henry Kissinger, the former American Secretary of State put it succinctly during the first oil shock of the early 1970’s. He declared, “Control the oil and you control entire nations.” A thin red line runs through the history of the world since Fashoda, and that is covered in oil and blood. This book is not for the faint of heart, but it is meant to provoke reflection and discussion among those who can see beyond the daily media manipulation of reality that is called news.”
So, they have been fighting all these year over oil and gas only discovered in 2004 or so.
Good thing you explained that. I never would have connected the two.
Oil is why the US is occupying 30% of Syria, as well.
The US is looting the oil, as well as the wheat.
Revelation chap 6 Verse 6.
“And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.”
Hmmm, It’s almost as if the control of money (resources) drives and has driven for CENTURIES ALL the genocidal wars including the genocide of indigenous Americans. It’s almost as if Babylonian Bankers are ALWAYS the beneficiaries of war and the victims ever the donors. But that’s impossible right? I mean that would mean there has been a centuries old cabal, behind the scenes, gobbling up control of earth and its inhabitants.
Yeah, gobble, gobble, you turkey.
That gets to to you? Hearing that?
Again Trump: Why didn’t we pay ourselves back for the Iraq war by taking some of the oil?
Yes, we’ve certainly given Israel enough “dough”, we have every right to some of that.
Start making sense!
Thanks.
Yes, I’ve focused on the illegitimate birth. Both points, and particularly around those you’ve made are clearly in the ‘this world’ category. I might add, WATER is another of Israel’s worldly concerns, where Palestinians stand in the way of complete control.
When viewed from the context of ‘this world,’ the picture is clear.
Alfred, you poor deluded soul!
Why am I deluded?
Israel is the rightful owner of Judea and Samaria. The sooner everyone recognizes this, the better for everyone.
What about Palestinian Christians? Didn’t you say you were a Christian?
Israel owns Judea and Samaria. Won it fair and square after repeated attacks. Keep pounding sand on your desolate island of despair.
If we’re going to be against the creation of Israel, we’d have to be against the creation of the United States since we dispossessed a more primitive people too.
News flash: The Left is against the creation of the United States, despises our History, Traditions, and most of all, the People who founded this Nation.
Don’t seek to be good lest you die or would see your nation do so. Else you might be detained and tried, hearing some high priest intone, Isn’t it better that one man die that the people might live?
Sometimes I can’t help but wonder how history might have been different had the existing Native population of the Americans not been almost instantly decimated by the diseases such as smallpox and the bubonic plague that Europeans brought to these shores. The Natives were a Neolithic (literally “Later Stone Age”) agricultural civilization who lacked many of our technological and societal advantages, so perhaps they would have been conquered nonetheless, but I really do think it would have been a lot more of a fight that would have resulted in an outcome that would have been different in at least some ways.
The whole “they died instantly from smallpox (recently they added measles, in order to tie in vaccine resistance to MMR) narrative has only been around for a few decades.
Before that, the wiping out of the natives was celebrated, as Jarek still does.
“Here comes the calvary” is still widely used, even though the narrative has changed.
If they instantly died from diseases, why was there a calvary? What were they saving us from? Why were there Indian Wars?
What were all those western movies going on about?
A whole swath of history has been wiped from the books, and Americans are told instead to point fingers at Israel.
“For shame! They took land from the original inhabitants! But the US didn’t, no way. The original inhabitants conveniently had no immune systems, so dropped conveniently dead before we got to their land.”
At the beginning of the 19th century, the US consisted of 13 colonies lined up on the east coast. By the end, the US had spread across the entire continent, and snatched up some Mexican land, to boot.
There were only 250,000 Indians alive in 1900.
Now we are told that 600,000 Palestinians were expelled in 1948, and there has been 70 years of genocide since then, leaving only 5,407,762 left (one is added every 4 minutes in Gaza.)
Get it? There was no genocide in the US. Those 250,000 Indians just managed to escape smallpox.
There is an ongoing genocide in Palestine, get it? That is why there are only a few thousand people left.
Oh….wait.
It only works if you change the definition of words.
The Cornucopians do the same thing with the world population, so it’s an easy substitute.
Oh, Paula, you’re so aware, I love it.
I remember watching Jimmy Kimmel once, back when I could stand him, and it was the occasion of Mexico’s bicentennial, and he was wondering out loud how Mexico could be a newer country that the United States.
my figures show that there was 90 to 95 million native folks when the Europeans got here in north America with lots of debate about Mexico population—by 1900 that was 3 to 5 million–only about 20,000 native peoples were killed by battles—about the same with the settlers —the native folks really didn’t want to fight but everyone wanted their land–the disease wiped them out-of the settlers that cross the USA about 25,000 died of sickness out of 250,000–much debate who died in battles or just got sick and died–life was harsh–dirty water and habits killed a lot of people–the numbers at best are a guess–the coming nuke wars will wipe out 2/3rds right off the bat–after 5 years only about 5 percent of the population of the world will remain….time will start over like it has hundreds of times before
In the Northeast, yes. Not in Virginia. Jamestown faced “the Powhattan Confederacy” – more than twenty thousand Indians scattered over a few hundred square miles. They attacked again and again. In one attack, almost half of the Jamestown men were killed. They have up all ideas about converting them after that. But it took years and reinforcement before they could end the threat they posed.
If the Whites tried to expand, say pushing away a little Indian village, the Indians would send out runners and in a week a thousand braves would be gathered outside the stockade fence. It was a problem. It was them or us. Do you choose them? I choose Us.
Yeah, hater, 6 million killed Jews WERE massacred before Jews were allowed their historic homeland.
there is no facts to support that number–6 to 7 million Jews were displaced and people ran with that number as the amount that were killed–the best guessers say that total killed was 600,000 to 700,000–mostly from sickness and starvation in the camps–the coming nuke war will mean Israhell will be reduced to ash along with most of the middle east and all of euro land–probably only a few hundred million will make it out alive in the world but who knows..nobody
I think it was a little more than 600,000 or 700,000. It was an attempt by satan to prevent May 18, 1948, from becoming a reality, because that date was the fulfillment of prophecy, where the fig tree bloomed again, and God said that after two thousand years of diaspora among the nations, He was going to bring Israel back to their land again. And that had to be prevented at all costs, because that’s when the end times clock started ticking again. It stopped at the crucifixion for 2000 years. That was the 69th week of Daniel’s 70 weeks of years prophecy. The 70th week has yet to play out.
How does this fit in with Pierce and White survival?
Not mocking btw. These sets of ideas are hart to integrate.
It’s been proven from examination of the Nazi’s own records by many organizations that the 6 million is accurate. And that’s not counting some 2 million non-Jews. So you are full 9f it, happiface.
Who killed Jesus?
No doubt you are an authority with complete firsthand knowledge of what you speak, happiface, contrary to millions of witnesses.
Bill,
The Zionists were politically active at the turn of the 20th century. They lobbied long and hard to get the Balfour declaration in 1917.
That’s the starting point, or as far back as I need to go because there was no change for at least a thousand years, there was no Israeli government in exile, no hidden monarch. Balfour was the turning point.
Those 6 million souls murdered in WWII were murdered after Jews were allowed to conduct similar operations in their biblical homeland. It’s not yet expunged from history. You can still read about it.
So, I get it. You’re using faith based facts. I’m not against faith based facts, it’s just that yours aren’t mine.
BUT to LEVEL the playing field, through the lens of these worldly eyes, with attention to these worldly matters, the picture of apartheid is clear, and the consequences of ignoring it are clear too.
When it comes down to it, Uncle Abraham’s “Might makes Right!” position probably the most true to human nature. The world has always been that way. Conquest, then defy the world to come take it.
That’s not reality – it’s your warped perception. The Arabs attacked the Jews from the start and relentlessly thereafter, one way or another. As has been said, if the Arabs would lay down their arms, there would be peace. If Israel would lay down their arms they would be no more. But you can’t hear or see a thing.
“The Arabs attacked the Jews from the start and relentlessly thereafter, one way or another. ”
Untrue.
Unfortunately, “reality” can be tricky.
Reality is telling us that the war project in Ukraine started by the neocon pseudopod of our Deep State blob is not working out. The fiasco could not be more rank. Instead of weakening Russia, it crippled the USA. V. Putin is not the enemy of Western Civ, he’s one of its last remaining defenders. Was it not in everyone’s interest that for seventy-five years Ukraine existed as an inert borderland, making trouble for nobody, itself especially? Could we not respect that reality and leave it alone?
Couldn’t have said it better. But then there was this:
Reality is telling us that Israel refuses to be massacred out of existence. Israel will defend itself with us or without us. It’s possible they’ll manage it intelligently. You might ask: will we defend ourselves against the same antagonist that wants to wipe all of Western Civ off the face of the earth, us included? Notice that your own will to survive is being subverted by useful idiots while warrior cadres of mysterious origin pour across the Mexican border. Everyone knows it’s a clear and present danger and who will move to stop the invasion? Do we have to wait for a catastrophe?
The “facts” on the ground, as reported by the “always reliable” CNBC seem to say otherwise:
Health authorities in Gaza said over 5,000 people were killed since the Oct. 7 start of the war between Palestinian militant group Hamas and Israel. More than 15,000 have been injured, the authorities said.
It is over two weeks since the Palestinian militant group Hamas launched its assault on Israel, killing at least 1,400 people and taking over 200 hostage.
And all that realizing that the Israeli numbers are probably inflated and the Palestinian numbers greatly deflated, with a whole lot more soon to come. How many will have to be killed to call it “even steven?”
Not sure about Hamas, but I’m pretty sure it’s not the Palestinians committing the massacre here. They’re shooting fish in a barrel over there in the name of “self defense,” with the US cheering them on like adolescent girls. Shameful fucking shit!
We also had brainwashed college students cheering on the Hamas attacks, which to me were also shooting fish in a barrel. A few of the foreign students did walk it back after learning that some of their countrymen were among the massacred.
I found this, from a man whose main interest in this is apparently military:
“I’ve been arguing since the Hamas operation started that the only certain outcome is Gaza getting smashed. Whether you think some pan-Islamic alliance enters the war and defeats Israel, the price of that will be Gaza getting crushed.
Israeli strategic logic dictates that the country’s existence is in question if they don’t thrash Gaza.
It’s not a perfect analogy, but remember that even though the Hapsburg empire didn’t survive WW1, they succeeded in their goal of punishing Serbia. The Serbs suffered a demographic cataclysm.”
https://x.com/witte_sergei/status/1715776802529091842?s=20
They look like Nazi stormtroopers readying for battle in that pic. All the little skeletor up front needs is a little Hitler ‘stash to complete the picture. Look like he’s already working on the Heil Five.
Amen.
Let Israel do what they think they must do to survive. Let them be self-determining.
Is their strategy a winning one?
Is it one that makes allying with them benificial to the U.S.? Maybe not.
beneficial
And maybe it is beneficial.
It’s an established fact, documented over and over, that Hamas and Israel’s enemies lie incessantly. Just like the recent hospital bombing by Palestinian Islamic Jihad. But you listen to liars because you are one yourself.
Oh, yeah Hamas’ motto is, “By way of deception thou shalt do war,” everyone knows that…
wait, what?
JHK sees reality better than most, and writes about it better than almost anyone, with one exception, Israel.
I could also mention the conundrum, that a high percentage of the cultural issues that he finds abhorrent, originate with Jewish thinkers.
The Gaza war is splitting the lunatic left, both Jew and Gentile.
I wonder when (if ever) those people will realize the Islamic world doesn’t embrace their woke dogmas and would gladly honor Allah by killing them.
Chuck Schumer’s distant cousin Amy came under heavy fire for thinking that she supported all the other celebrities’ woke causes, her friends would support her when she expressed sympathy for the victims of the massacre by Hamas.
1) no human with a soul can take joy in innocent blood
2) innocent blood has been spilled with intention and for effect by both (all) sides.
3) the cynical intention is to justify genocide by both sides
4) i have no intention of playing this cynical game, and i will never for myself or my children (son) accede to fighting on either side.
5) i will point out deceptive manipulation intended to force me or us to join this fight comes from the shadows (evil) every. single. time.
Would you be willing to fight on American soil for your son?
One incident: When Black refugees – who were also looters (tricky, right?) – fled New Orleans, Whites with shoguns forced them to go back from whence they came. They had already been looted by an earlier band of Black refugees.
Jarek, I’m guessing you meant shotguns, not Japanese shoguns.
Thank you. You are a light unto this gentile.
j – the things i am willing to defend with my life, in order, limited to:
family, home, homeland
notice i’m not using words like freedom – that’s taken as read.
notice the absence of any ‘isms’
Survival is the first morality – Thomas Jefferson.
@ hmuller:
It is so nice that you see reality.
There is a bright side to all this kerfuffle in Ukraine and Israel. According to Mitch McConnell, USA has the opportunity to give weapons to both countries, and then replace them here in the USA with newer more effective weapons. “Rebuild our industrial base here (USA)”.
He thought “Americans would be happy with that.” I heard him say it on the tele. It may have been edited out by now.
So our new industrial base will be weapons manufacturing. Mitch said it would create jobs. Because everybody wants to work in a bomb factory, right?
Helping our friends fight proxy wars for us. You know, the kind of thing we hate if others do it to us?
There are more spooks, ghouls and goblins inside the beltway than can be counted.
Mitch is prattling on and on about all kinds of nonsense that probably isn’t even true anymore. Like he’s happy it’s just dead Ukrainians and not Americans.
We should be seeing inflated Mitch McConnells on people’s front lawns.
Is the Gobbler still frozen in time or is he back to full operating strength? A buddy of mine saw him in the airport once. He’s about three feet tall.
Then we won’t need to inflate the Mitch lawn decorations.
Great image. Get your needles out. Prick or treat.
We should be seeing inflated Mitch McConnells on people’s front lawns.
Please no. We have enough inflation as it it.
” … as it is.”
Excellent points. When all you’ve got is war, all you see is weapons, ammunition, bombs, and missiles. This has been the reality since the end of WWII for the most part. “Defense” pays the bills.
USA’s new business slogan? “Building our country by destroying yours!” Maybe not new.
“Since 1945”, actually.
“Remember, we are the living. While we are here, we have an obligation to those who come after us.”
Thank you .
NGT – Completely agree.
Indeed.
Yes, the Dead and Unborn are the silent majority, but we live in a Republic not a Democracy. We must speak for them and not let the Dems put words in their unmoving mouths.
“We must speak for them and not let the Dems put words in their unmoving mouths.”
Jarek – as usual, your message is conflicted – who are YOU to ‘speak for them’ and yet claim you’re not ‘pitting words in their unmoving mouths’?
And what’s this continuing bullshit trope that the US is ‘not a democracy’ because it’s a republic? It is both, you numbskull.
James Clyburn:
“The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government. That is, we have an indivisible union of 50 sovereign States. It is a democracy because people govern themselves. It is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot.”
So the peepul can vote out the 2nd Amendment – or any and all of them?
No. Sorry. No.
The Founders hated Democracy or rule by the mob.
I really like the painting. Especially the twenty-two little ghosts lined up at the sidewalk edge. Souls stolen. Reminds me of WWII nose art with all the bombs painted and representing bomber missions.
WWII Nose Art.
I would never known what to call it in order to bring it all back in a search.
Thanks.
You took the time to count! I went more with the totality of the scene.
Is the number significant?
The large ghost figure appears a variation on ‘The Scream’
Yup, love the painting!
Where Does Truth Lie?
Truth, that shop-worn and thread-bare connection to reality that passes through our flawed “perception”, allows us extant human beings to continue to survive in a hostile universe, just like our ancestors before us. How is that possible? How can a species as manifestly flawed as we bipeds persist on the only hospitable planet within our awareness? This question is far more important than the answer, but whatever answer you come up with, we all owe our existence to a dirty little secret: sex! Sex is the solution that has allowed higher animals to thrive in a sea of parasites (both biologic and temporal) and as the recent Great Covid Deception has revealed, those parasites (evil) are literally everywhere among us. Only the discerning mind (and body) can have a chance of continuance.
Thus the importance of truth: it isn’t what anyone says it is, it is what it is. Reliably, it also works. Werner Erhard, in his Little Book of Aphorisms, opined: “do what works; don’t do what doesn’t work”. John Denver, in his song “Some Days are Diamonds, Some Days are Stones” sang:
“Now you ask how I’ve been here without you,
I like to say, ‘I’ve been fine’, and I do.
But we all know the truth is hard to come by,
And if I spoke the truth, that’s not quite true.”
Further, to quote Paul in the Good Book, Ephesians, 6:20 KJV, “…we struggle not against flesh and blood, but against estates, against principalities, against the darkness of the world, against wickedness in high places….” Truth (received wisdom) or truth (that which survives) is not of the realm of words, those puny approximations capable of deception, but of far greater importance to our survival as a species, as a world, as an ideal. Truth has more to do with mathematics (where lying is not possible) and a believable lie cannot trump a painful truth. So gird up your loins and triple check your calculations: our survival depends on their accuracy!
the article by our host was its usual very good this morning, but this comment section is on fire.
well said sir.
Xenophobia is completely natural and beneficial. Xenophillia – also called liberalism – has no benefits whatsoever, only harms.
It’s a disease. Monsters always love you and want to get close to you.
I see the problem as someone being so desirous of being loved or admired that they cultivate relationships with people with the capacity of causing them their destruction.
My mind isn’t the problem here. There is no accountability on any level. That is God’s fault. Whichever useless idol you choose at this point. Jesus took in enough money this weekend alone to end most big issues or at least make a huge dent. Not one single God does anything but chestbump and tell you to read how it’s gonna happen…at some point…so be ready..FOR WHAT?!
No more. If God Himself cannot make war, cannot find justice without a pseudo fight with Satan where He makes us fight while they do nothing.. then they are just tyrants, controlled creators or concocted bullshit. Stop paying God for nothing. Tell Jesus to get his ass to work in the field because the threat of justice is cutting it.
So much anger and resentment towards God. You really should check yourself. Could be ok though, be cold. God might answer you.
God does not interfere with human behavior, it is part of the covenant He made with mankind when He gave us the ability to reason and tell right from wrong.
Blaming God for anything is fruitless.
Blame the power and ethnocentrism weaknesses in man
And the lemming syndrome, the desire for Joe and Jill Average to follow the leader.
Megalomaniacs have destroyed the goodness of mankind over and over with the latter trait.
“You’re an interesting species, an interesting mix. You’re capable of such beautiful dreams and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost, so cut off, so alone, only you’re not. See, in all our searching, the only thing we’ve found that makes the emptiness bearable is each other.”
from Contact, after the book by Carl Sagan
stated by an alien with consciousness that might be described as God like – which in my best moments is clearly all pervading and all encompassing.
this yearning is what we so unwisely fight over, when its there for the having any time.
Good guys have the right to win. God wills it. You don’t know who the good guys are is the problem. So ask God. Oh, you don’t believe in Him either, right?
You’re way up shit’s creek without a paddle. You’re gonna have to use your hands until you find a tree branch or somethin. But by end you’ll be like a Venetian gondolier. So don’t despair. Get busy.
We too in Canada have many Halloween displays. It seems like a pattern. One display caught my attention showing Justin Trudeau the most deservedly hated and mocked person in Canada. It was a skeleton hanging from a tree.
I’m Canadian (Oakville) and I detest the man; however, when you become a leader of a country with less than 1/3 the vote the system is not right.
Didn’t Justin campaign on electoral reform in 2015-second round of votes between the two most vote getters like France does?
Never came threw when his advisors (puppet masters) explained to him if he did that he wouldn’t never be voted in again.
In my n = 1 observation, the annual Halloween binge is subdued this year. Far fewer creepy lawn displays and stores with shrieking skulls all over the place. Good! The Halloween thing has gotten way out of hand — as if it’s our main national holiday.
While the celebration of bad spirits has turned into a commercial orgy (like Christmas … excuse me, the “holiday season”) the human side retreats. Every year there are fewer trick-or-treaters, none at all solo, huge groups chaperoned by moms. I don’t blame them, but it’s sad to see the decline of the high-trust society that characterized trick-or-treating in my long-ago childhood. We would have been laughed at if we had brought our mothers as guards.
I think that the guy (?) who wrote Revelations (perhaps John, who knows?) was reincarnated: his name is JHK
” Israel will defend itself with us or without us. It’s possible they’ll manage it intelligently.”
ya
Israel needs long term security and lebensraum thru the elimination of Gaza & the western side of the Jordan river.
“Palestine” is simply a leftover of the British colony before 1948.
The Arabs in these areas ought to be resettled in the Sinai, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia.
Or as a clever Israeli general recently quipped: “all these Palestinians need to be moved to Europe!”
hehe
“The Arabs in these areas ought —-“
Except that those areas nations want absolutely nothing to do with having a group of thugs move in on them and trying to take over.
Actually, Palestine is a remnant of the Ottoman Empire that was destroyed in WW1 and was administered by Britain until 1948 when the UN ordered the creation of Israel.
How many other countries were actually created by decree?
“How many other countries were actually created by decree
…Liberia? Wakanda?
iraq…
but wankanda – that was a coffee on the keyboard delight. well done.
Most African countries, actually. Tribes on both sides of borders. Maybe it was intentional. Otherwise, the tribal stage would never be transcended. Not sure it’s working very well though.
Bangladesh.
Pakistan. It’s not a real country and similar fashion to the Zionism that created Israel, a Muslim leader felt it Muslims of that area needed their own country and created Pakistan, which is an anagram of Punjab afghan province and kashmir. Ironic that Islam is outraged at the alleged apartheid oppression of the internationally created Jewish state yet they have the same thing in their backyard.
“Palestine is a remnant of the Ottoman Empire that was destroyed in WW1”
No.
Israel is a remnant of the British Empire that was destroyed in both world wars.
And anyhow, how can people be “remnants”?
Check this out:
“The Division of Energy and Mineral Development created brochures and sample leases to support Tribes in exploring and developing businesses on their lands.”
httpX://www.bia.gov/bia/ots/demd/publications-lease-samples
Think the Zionists are gonna help out the Pals make the most of their resources?
Nah, easier to kill them. Which was always the plan anyhow. Viz.,
“The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more.” Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time – August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000.
“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
“Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours… Everything we don’t grab will go to them.” Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
“We did not know what to do with them [surrendered Egyptian POWs in 1956]. There was no choice but to kill them. This is not such a big deal if you take into consideration that I slept well after having escaped the crematories of Auschwitz.” Retired Israeli brigadier general Arieh Biro, The New York Times, August 21, 1995.
“We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.” Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.
“We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimetre of Eretz Israel… Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours.” Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces – Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.
“When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle.” Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
“The Palestinians are beasts walking on two legs.” Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, “Begin and the Beasts”. New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
“Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment… Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly.” Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine, Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves…politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.” Speech by David Ben-Gurion, 1938, quoted in Zionism and the Palestinians by Simha Flapan, 1979.
“A partial Jewish State is not the end, but only the beginning. I am certain that we can not be prevented from settling in the other parts of the country and the region.” David Ben Gurion, in a letter to his son, 1937.
ET CETERA.
Remind me again, John out there in AZ, who the thugs are.
John AZ:
“the UN ordered the creation of Israel.”
You fool.
You continue to be an embarrassment to any thinking person on this blog.
more like the bankers ordered the creation of israel.
heard many towns and cities have a “rothschield street”
that true?
Islander’s Truth must be acknowledged. What she does with it is the problem. The Zionists were Me firsters, lasters and in the middlers – just like we used to be before they confused us about everything – including our Churches.
If you’re against Israel, you have to be against America.
Don’t worry – she probably is.
“Islander’s Truth must be acknowledged. What she does with it is the problem.”
Yep.
You are babbling.
He’s a moron
Check out this video about that. I find it fascinating.
.youtube.com/watch?v=gzXoc8y2G0k
Effing dolt.
What do you call the Declaration?
You know, of this country.
How do you get this stupid?
Over time, or suddenly, by birth?
“Except that those areas nations want absolutely nothing to do with having a group of thugs move in on them and trying to take over.”
Meh
Let the Saudi Royals or the King of Dubai, or the Sultan of Oman….or better yet… many of the Arabs of “Palestine” work for the many Emirs of the U.A.E. ?
Any of these fabulously rich kingdoms ought to have a solution.
How many countries were created by decree?
Depends on what you call a decree.
Many countries have been created by agreements and declarations of various sorts.
Such as, for starters, Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia.
I’m for a two state solution. Both you and Islander are One Stater’s – she wants you all driven into the sea and you want the deplorables dispersed. I’m the lover here, you two are the haters.
Ein Volk, Ein Reich!
hehe
🙂
” Both you and Islander are One Stater’s ”
YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
JUST MAKING UP SHIT.
STOP SPEAKING FOR ME.
AND LYING.
AND, BTW, DROP THE EFFIN’ APPOSTROPHE, YOU IDJIT
No you said you wanted One State just the other day – despite your Russian Elder, Herr Lavrov, coming out for a Two State Solution.
Have you accepted his Wisdom? Or are you lying?
Outstanding, Jim!
Ukraine- Zelensky has been talking about a “peace formula” (whatever that is) meeting in Malta, with “many nations” ready to participate.
No mention of Russia, though.
EXcept he did call a recent strike by Russia a “terrorist attack”.
How does that work, a peace conference without the side you are at war with, and why aren’t we hearing more about it?
BTW, here’s some more on what we almost all already knew, the fact that Ukraine was not allowed to make peace with Russia early on because of the United States:
“Wow! Ex leader of Germany confirms revelations by ex Israeli PM & Ukrainian media: “At the peace negotiations in Istanbul in March 2022 with Rustem Umerov, the Ukrainians did not agree on peace because they were not allowed to. For everything they discussed, they first had to ask the Americans.”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1715715086096986531.html
Yup
Ukraine is simply operating how S.Vietnam, Afghanistan, or Iraq under US puppet regimes were.
It isn’t really the United States though. It is the globocap cabal that controls the United States.
Many Americans want nothing to do with this stuff, and there are even many in the political class who feel the same.
Unfortunately, we have allowed the government, academia, and many of our most venerable institutions to become infiltrated and something beyond corrupt.
Yup!
100% correct
What happened to the American dream? This is it. You got it: Globocap!
How else could it have turned out if you weren’t able to reign in these beasts? Or worse, didn’t even think you had to? Cuz some “invisible hand” would keep it all nice? That what you really believe, right?
Nope. Markets have to be regulated to a degree, monopolies broken up, and private interests seperate from public institutions. A nice mixed economy, where business is business, and the people’s institutions and elected officials police things as needed.
One of the most damaging things to ever happen in the US was to allow lobbyists to take over DC, and later, to promote “public-private” partnership.
There is also the problem of the Fed, but everyone knows that already.
“globocap cabal ”
hmm
ya
Beryl,
What really steams me is that many sources REPORTED ON THIS AT THE TIME, back in March and April 2022….
The problem is that these sources — many of which I only know about because I follow various Telegram accounts — are not read or watched by most Americans. Most Americans think that FOX and talk radio are some sort of reality-based counterpoint to CNN and the New York Times. In reality, they are ALL tools of the globalist cabal that also runs the federal government.
So your average American had no idea that their own government sabotaged the peace in March 2022. Think of all the lives lost, bodies mutilated, families broken, communities scattered, land contaminated, and farms and industries destroyed… since March 2022.
What the U.S. has done to Ukraine is a crime against humanity. We will be punished, one way or another, since, as JHK articulates so well today, reality is ultimately inescapable.
“Instead of weakening Russia, it crippled the USA. V. Putin is not the enemy of Western Civ, he’s one of its last remaining defenders. Was it not in everyone’s interest that for seventy-five years Ukraine existed as an inert borderland, making trouble for nobody, itself especially? Could we not respect that reality and leave it alone?”
The US is a stupid, childish giant. Stumbling around with its rotting wooden club, it sways from its fentanyl intoxication, swinging blindly to & fro, trying its hardest for a street fight against anyone, anywhere– whether that enemy is Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, Syria…. anybody.
” trying its hardest for a street fight against anyone, anywhere– whether that enemy is Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, Syria, or Cornpop…
There fixed it for ya.
Thanks to our host for today’s wise and, as always, beautifully expressed essay. I have hope, in spite of all that I see around me, and your words, Jim, underline that hope and raise my spirits.
In my small, remote corner of the world, the insanity can seem very far away and not entirely real – and then, suddenly, close and threatening, slithering into our lives through the wires.
Even so – two nurses at our
dinky little local hospital, strangers to me, offered to come to my house and help me to stack firewood. I know the local people well enough to be aware that they never make an idle gesture; when they offer to help, if you accept, they’re there in a heartbeat and prepared for anything. My husband and I have received more outright love and practical help from these “deplorables” than I would have believed was left in the world.
There are other pockets of civilisation to be found, most of them equally unlikely looking at first glance, and these are the places from which the world will be rebuilt.
@ Rowdypiglet:
Yes, I live in a place like that. Last fall some neighbors brought over a splitter, after the firewood was cut. But that’s just one of many kindnesses. As long as such places exist, the world will be rebuilt.
hehe
🙂
nice
It’s a golem! Who controls it? You know. I command you to answer!
Have they opened up a Loews in Prague yet?
the hardware store?
“V. Putin is not the enemy of Western Civ, he’s one of its last remaining defenders.”
THANK YOU.
The Western media’s demonization of Russia, and particularly of Vladimir Putin, has been such an effective brainwashing that it would make Goebbels envious.
The reality is exactly the opposite of the Western media narrative. As was said last March by Archbishop Carlo Vigano, the man whom many of us Catholics look to as a spiritual beacon in the absence of a legitimate living pope:
“The Russian Federation undeniably stands as the last bastion of civilization against barbarism….”
marcotosatti.com/2023/03/16/vigano-message-to-the-international-congress-of-russophiles-mir/
@ Heartlander:
I always enjoy hearing from Archbishop Vigano.
Very good essay this Monday morning, Jim.
But the reason for this post is just to tell you that I very much like your Hallowe’en painting…..nice.
I like it also. It’s full of details that are great.
It reminds me a lot of my late brother’s home. He did not have the over-the-top Halloween decor, of course.
In reference to ” families growing broke in America”, I live in rural coastal plain rural NC and have noticed the subdivision houses increasingly placed here are not only selling, but still being built. Development has slowed down a bit I think, but still moving at a pretty good clip. I can’t imagine spending a minimum of 350K for these “new homes” and financing it at close to 8% for 30 years, but that’s what people are still doing.
I think it may be a kind of crack up boom. If people qualify for the home loan they take it, figuring it will only be more difficult in the future. I hope it stops soon, before they build even more, creating more of what I moved to escape.
Karl Denninger, the Ticker Guy, has been making blunt warnings about real estate:
“Prognostication: Almost everyone buying real estate now, and almost everyone who has bought it in the last two years, is going to be SEVERELY underwater and unable to refinance for a decade or more. If you buy to live in it and can make the payments, fine. If not, you’re SCREWED.”
https://twitter.com/tickerguy/status/1716268943512338896
This makes me terribly sad.
I didn’t know he did that… He’s funnier on X.
The guy is brilliant.
We live in a twisted country, in which we worship “the economy” as some sort of god that needs constant sacrifices.
“Housing starts” are reported with chirpy voices by the news readers, while homeless people are ignored.
Someone upthread pointed out that Mitch McConnell thinks that Americans will be thrilled to work in bomb factories.
Well, yeah, if that’s the only work to be found that pays. That, and working in prisons.
But is there no actual work to be done to improve this country and the lives of its citizens?
Yes, there is, but it doesn’t pay, so it isn’t done.
And no one seems to realize how strange that is. We sacrifice the children with vaccines and puberty blockers, simply because it makes big money for Big Pharma, and that is considered normal, although literally throwing them into volcanoes is no longer done.
Weirdest “economy” ever.
Yes. Under the reign of Usura, our money has babies but our women do not.
An engine only works – that is to say, produce “work” because the explosion is contained. Likewise, a Capitalist economy can only work to the extent it is contained. Open borders means no containment, no pressure, no work.
@ Jimpa:
That’s what developers do – build. Having spent almost my entire career brokering RE transactions of all types, I can tell you there will be many bankruptcies occurring.
@Jimpa, A young couple in my extended family, living about an hour from Philadelphia, just bought a house for $630,000.00. They’re both 28 years old, make decent money but far from rich. The house is nice but nothing special – a carefully kept tract house from the early 1960s. I can see no conceivable way that they can pay for this house for more than a few years, if they’re very lucky. The selling price of the house is far beyond what it’s worth in any sane market; it would have sold for about $80,000 not at all long ago. A reckoning is coming, and it won’t be pretty.
Guess I was right in my observations.
This Headline from Market Watch:
U.S. new-home sales just ‘defied gravity,’ surging to highest level since February 2022
Maybe it’s still a good time to buy a home now. The US is now running a 1.7 trillion yearly deficit, something most are inured to thinking about now. Even Powell is saying it’s not sustainable. Maybe high inflation is our future. In that case, an 8% mortgage might not be so bad.
The Dancing Israelis are home
Send in the clowns.
There’s got to be clowns.
Don’t bother, they’re here.
“Hark! the Herald Angels Sing!” – Charles Wesley
“Christ! You Know It Ain’t Easy!” – John Lennon
Great quote to kick things off at the top of this week’s blog entry.
Could not be more appropriate.
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Props to JHK for standing up for what is true and right, again.
Others are also standing up, although naturally the top-down msm is not covering it.
The Westminster Declaration is a rousing call for free speech and open debate.
Check it out and share it, because only we the people sharing it horizontally will get it seen.
//westminsterdeclaration.org/
Michael Shellenberger explains it further.
//public.substack.com/p/introducing-the-westminster-declaration
Shellenberger has blocked half of the people who previously supported him. Most recently CJ Hopkins, one of a rather limited number of truthtellers during the Covid Hoax.
The irony is not lost on some of us.
Paula
Very good. The list of signatory was interesting too, many different types, even some well known celebrities.
Problem here is that our own government hates the contents of this declaration as it is a control on their ability to indoctrinate the public.
The Democratic Party with its insistence that everything that they do not espouse is “misinformation”. A greater form of censorship has not been found.
The only way to fix our Democratic problem is to convince the 50+% Jim talks about that their gimme attitude is wrong.
When pigs fly, that is why the ship is sinking.
If this Declaration was an international treaty, what do you suppose its chances of clearing approval by our Senate would be?
0 or maybe -10?
Yes, the government is trying to destroy the Bill of Rights, but we have to fight back.
Congress is owned, so yeah, they would definitely vote against it.
Paula,
Thank you for sharing the Westminster Declaration! I had not heard of it before now, and will certainly share it!
Thanks, Heartlander, it really needs to be shared.
I only heard of it yesterday. The msm news black-out is total.
In the past, JHK has mentioned that we won’t be able to form up capital like we used to and he’s illustrated the sources that create that capital i.e. financial, social, cultural, political, and material.
I think the form of Reality to hit us first will be the inability to form up legitimate AUTHORITY. Before capital in any form can be assembled, or reassembled, a legitimate authority must exist to order it into being and manage its distribution.
Once the West, as we’ve known it has lost all credibility (and hence authority), who can declare that he is the new center and on what basis? Who has the credibility to form up that kind and scale of authority to restore sanity in the world?
The “multi-polar world” seems attractive to those who are weary of the current malevolent system but, I can see that fracturing rather quickly as well.
Right! Just look at our cities, a blight on humanity. No authority has any semblance of control there, the authority cannot even control their own party incessant drive to fill those cities with human refuse.
Mayor Adams, your worst nightmares are being delegated by the Deep State, how does it feel to be getting screwed like the rest of us?
Yes, who will work and store up in barns, if thieves can take it all as in the ghetto?
From Authority comes Law. And from Law, police and courts. The dacoits must be crushed. They must live in terror of the police. Only then will they be good.
Here’s a dollop of reality: the average American adult cannot do one deep squat, one pushup (men from toes, women from knees), or run one mile at any pace. Well prepared for hard times we are.
But we’re Vikings when it comes to Pickleball!
Marlin, I’ve never pickle balled. I’m a pickleball virgin. I don’t care if people know. Or am I a pickleball incel?
Bill I never even heard of Pickleball until about 6 months ago. Now it’s all the rage.
Once gasoline becomes rationed, very expensive, often stolen, and sometimes simply unavailable – the average American adult will slim down a lot because walking and bicycles will become the new method of transport – along with small displacement high tech and extremely high mpg motorbikes. Riding a motorbike also requires getting in shape and getting ready for doing battle – and I’m talking real battle – with the elements. You’ll be riding in cold, heat, rain, and even snow. Being out of shape simply won’t cut it if you’re living what’s basically an African lifestyle on dirt and gravel roads for the rural areas. In the long emergency everyone will be in shape. That’s what happens in a world made by hand.
Also diet, the explosion of calorie intake, especially eating out, will also be curtailed.
It takes a lot of exercise to work off a Big Mac.
Be sure to sock away Au coins for wealth storage and Ag coins for currency.
In Switzerland and France, people eat cream, butter, cheese, potatoes, bread, chocolate… but you very rarely see a fat person. Wanna know why? 1. At meals, they eat modest portion sizes, and never have seconds; 2. They don’t snack between meals, and they don’t eat highly-processed/”convenience” foods; 3. They walk and bike everywhere.
Oh and by “bike,” I mean bicycle. Powered by leg muscles.
Pretty much like when we were kids, most of us.
Groundhog’s description of “African” lifestyle dirt and gravel roads in rural areas is not all that much different from US lifestyles in the 40s–and even into the 50s in some places. Subsistence farming was quite the usual thing in the US for about half of the 20th Century: outhouses, no running water, canning every vegetable that would hold still long enough, shelling beans next to the wood stove in winter, walking to and from school in the snow, etc.
One of my high school friends grew up without running water in the 50s and 60s, in the little town of Lake City. It’s near the Lake City Army Ammunition plant, and I suppose the plant was named after it. She drove me out to see the town recently, because, even though I grew up in the area and had heard of Lake City, I had no idea where it was and thought it must be an imaginary place. Anyway, it’s still there, almost unchanged. There are about twelve houses there.
Some of the old ladies around here, who are not all that much older than I am, tell me that their bedspreads were made from flour sacks. (Maybe their dresses too.)
I think people forget that the present almost insane affluence has only been around for a few decades. Sometimes it seems a little insane, even to me, and I grew up in what was a middle-class home (with running water and such) for that era. In some ways, it kind of scares me that I can go online and order a spice mill and a soap cutter, and hear that my daughters have bought a new sectional, put up fall decorations, and bought seasonal throw pillows, when my grandparents sat on split-bottomed chairs.
My mother used to say that today’s world wasn’t better. It was just different. (That’s what she said her old-lady friends also said.) Happiness doesn’t have much to do with whether you have a big flat-screen TV or a fancy house or fancy furniture. It really has to do with the people in your life.
It is also because cream, butter, cheese, and chocolate don’t really make one fat.
Fat comes from eating lots of carbs and sugars. Carbs turn to sugar and refined sugar in particular is evil.
If you have not tried it. Spend a few months eating largely protein. Some veggies and yoghurt for the gut.
You will not only drop weight, you will build muscle like a demon if you do any physical activity.
I have been chopping wood for the winter all week while eating this diet and I think I have gone up a full shirt size.
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Owl what’s the situation in Germany as far as felling trees? Can you cut down a tree on your own property or do you need to get a permit from the town? Also is there any problem with having a woodstove in your house?
Anything over 80 cm in height requires a permit. Some species are protected.
Most of our neighbors are cool, so we were able to cut down some that needed to go. We replaced them (plus a few more)as I like things idyllic.
No problem with the stove yet in the burbs, but the green/red coalition nutters are working on that…
A side note here, too: When I took down the trees (about 19 altogether; many sick) I was out back with a chain saw for 3-4 days.
When I think back, we got lucky that we never got a visit from anyone.
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it didnt work for me..I was mostly grain free for 4 years.
and few legumes.
Grain free is not enough.
Sugar is the killer. Grains are converted to sugar, but if you eat sugar, it is still bad.
@ Night Owl:
Yes, that’s true.
I do think that part of our problem in the US is that the food has all kinds of poisons in it, many of which are endocrine disruptors. So it’s really possible to be unable to lose weight, even on that kind of diet. But such a diet works great for most people.
As a diabetic, I can tell you that the struggle against carbs is very real.
Yes, Anth. One easy solution is to avoid just about anything from a large conglomerate. There are many handy charts out there showing who owns who.
Also, simply cutting out processed food does wonders.
I’d say most people could do one pushup. At least a lady pushup which is no pushup at all.
The real travesty is pushup bras. Enough of this nonsense. We need these ladies in Special Forces. There’s a War on! With training, they will be able to do ten ladyups and hang from a bar for ten seconds. It is enough. Off they go!
Squats I can do just fine.
Pushups, I used to manage a few, after a fashion, but now any attempt gives me agony in one shoulder.
I doubt I could run a mile, but I can walk a mile at a fast pace, which is probably just as good from a health standpoint.
At least I like to think so.
Sounds good. You’re going. Bring me back a souvenir. Or bettah yet, mail it to me in case you don’t make it back.
Jarek once again I have no idea what you are talking about.
He is referring to his comment that we need ladies in combat, there is a war on.
She knows. She’s just obfuscating. They bring the same level of clarity and integrity to marriage and relationships.
Jarek has it never occurred to you that with your nasty attitude toward all women, you are only going to attract women with some kind of mental health issue?
People with low self-esteem act out in all kinds of unexpected ways.
You’re projecting your hatred of men onto me in regards to women.
Projection is what women do to avoid accountability.
If you are over 40 and want to live long, you gotta move.
I can’t do any of that stuff now, but in my youth I could walk four miles, carrying a 40-pound kid most of the way. I’ve always been careful about not trying to lift anything much over 40 pounds. If you’re a woman, that’s how you wind up with a bad back in your old age–or sometimes even while you’re still young.
Women need strength training just as much as do men, especially after menopause.
If you have a bad back or other physical limitations, you can use bolsters, ropes, even furniture (for leverage, balance).
A good place to start, combining aerobic with anaerobic exercise, is to ruck with small weights, gradually adding more weight and duration.
This is unfortunately true. But when I was in the military, they’d changed women’s pushups to those that the men did, albeit with less reps required.
Reality is an interesting word. It is a time dependent variable. What is ‘reality’ at this instant is not ‘reality’ and instant later. Example: Reality is that there is a piece of candy on my desk but a moment later reality is there is no candy on my desk. This is a microscopic version of ‘reality’. The macroscopic version of ‘reality’ is simply a totality of all the microscopic versions. The NYT hospital explosion was reality for a while with some people until it was proven (?) a hoax.
“Reality” sounds like a cousin to “mobile truth” per Alan Harrington’s book, “Life in the Crystal Palace.”
As Nino Scalia said before they Pattoned him, Some people prefer a living constitution. I prefer mine safely dead.
Chelsea a day or two after his demise: Now we can get the guns.
Probably not far from the truth. I’ve come to believe in the last few years that the guns are truly the only reason why the PTB haven’t been able to move forward with their agenda.
Hmmm?
Could it be?
Could it be that Hunter and Joe Biden, looking around the US realized that it was a shell of its former self and that there were very few money makers in the USA. So they went offshore to do their investing.
Now it is time to protect the Biden family wealth by using US Treasury assets.
The manipulations of Ukraine by the Biden Mob are infamous. They were also defended by the Deep State as they were the basis for Impeachment no 1.
What a world we live in!!!
PS. Would you trust your world with someone who is investing in destroying it?
No? All you Biden voters in 2020 just did!
I’m wondering what the rest of you think about this possible explanation for Israel’s intelligence failure. My mind doesn’t easily follow these Machiavellian routes, so I don’t know – but it does seem plausible.
/www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/intelligence-failures-monday-october?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=463409&post_id=138218400&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=16mno&utm_medium=email
That is very interesting, Rowdy. Sounds very plausible to me also.
I seem to remember demonstrations and riots in Israel a few months back, and some people then pointing out that it sure looked like a Color Revolution to get rid of Bibi.
And we know that both Obama and Biden hate Bibi.
And now this. Yep, very plausible.
But I don’t see why Israel “has to” invade Gaza. That will just kill off a bunch of Israeli soldiers and cause a wider war, while killing mostly civilians, since Hamas fighters are safe in the tunnels. And most of those killed will be children, since half of the people in Gaza are children. The propaganda value of parading dead children around will be immense. And the whole thing is illegal.
What is the point of that?
Q: “What is the point of that?”
A: “That will
justkill off a bunch of Israeli soldiers and cause a wider war, while killing mostly civilians, since Hamas fighters are safe in the tunnels. And most of those killed will be children, since half of the people in Gaza are children.”Zionists plan for Israel to be much larger than it is now. Greater Israel, they call it. They plan on having all the land from the Mediterranean Sea to the River Euphrates.
That, of course, can only be accomplished via war. Israel has chosen to, now, go to war.
Exactly like the Bible tells us. Identical.
To acquire the promised land, the land of milk and honey. The Hebrews of Israel have been combatants in the ME for thousands of years, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Macedonia, Rome. All of these are gone, Israel persists.
No Egypt is still there. So is Persia, Rome, etc. There are still Assyrians too.
But they have utterly changed in form and/or name! Uh, so have the Jews.
It’s not the same culture or religion. Even the Orthodox aren’t Old Testament Jews. A little thing called the Talmud is between them and that now. And they don’t look the same either. So are they the same people?
They invoke genetic markers to say yes, at least in some sense. Ok, I won’t disagree at that level. We’re not the same either after all.
To stop it, Paula. Israel needs to stop Hamas which is different than Gaza or the Palestinians.
Right now, Israel is trying to get the “civilians” out of Gaza to clobber the Hamas thugs and their infrastructure. Nobody else in the Arab world wants them as they know, unlike Biden, that uncontrolled immigration of dissidents leads to disaster.
Complacency maybe? A failure of Israel’s Deep State to acknowledge the intelligence they had.
How about the CIA, did it not know that Gaza grumblings might bring on the battle zone?
Or was it all planned?
Like Pearl Harbor?
Did you read the article, John? That is exactly what he is claiming.
Nope, it is just history repeating itself.
youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8
I heard of a theory like that early on. I don’t know if I trust Patrick Byrne though, I’m trying to remember something I recently learned about him but I can’t.
What I do know is what we heard at first, that Israel was just caught napping, made no sense at all.
It didn’t make sense because it didn’t happen.
No one seems too interested in finding out what did happen either, which I find passing strange.
If someone did do this to set Bibi up, he’s not about to let the world know that he knows, at this juncture.
I definitely don’t trust Patrick Byrne. He talks a very good game, but everything he says is open to question.
If someone did do this to set Bibi up & No one seems too interested in finding out what did happen either, which I find passing strange.
Bibi runs the latter. Perhaps Bibi was not set-up as much as he is the perp.
That’s another theory I heard almost right away. I don’t find that credible for various reasons, but until we know what did happen, we don’t know what didn’t.
I have a theory that someone just wanted borders opened up over there really bad, and they were wiling to do whatever it took to bring that about, and if it wiped out the Gazans, so be it; or perhaps, even better.
Huh? Cui bono if the Gazans are genocided? Of course it’s credible.
Fifteen (15) undetected holes big enough for terrorists on motorbikes while gaggles of other terrorists go undetected gently floating over the world’s most surveilled border?
I guess that “Bibi’s in on it” was a theory one would hear right away. It’s the clear front-runner towards matching reality.
Our culture has turned its back on its Judeo-Christian roots for so long that few remember the idea behind both Halloween and Mardi Gras. For Christians at least, they were a day to party before a more sober time of prayer and introspection.
Halloween is a corruption of Eve of All Hallows, (ie. saints). It was a day to acknowledge, at least figuratively the dark side. The day after is All Saints Day a day to pray for those who have gone to the Lord. At least when I was growing up, church that day was mandatory. Forget about all the candy until after school.
Mardi Gras is similar. It’s a last time to party before 40 days of prayer and fasting during the run-up to Easter called Lent. As the contexts of them are forgotten those holidays, like so much else in contemporary culture, have become empty commercialized spectacles.
Lent is the attempt to correct our sinful side with positive control, right?
So why do we have to exercise out sinful self to the max just before?
Ramadan is an Islamic similarity to Lent, and its completion is celebrated by all the stuff you did not do during its course.
Halloween is Samhain, a liminal time before the coming of the Darkness. The Christians put a holiday on the next day to try and steal the Pagan Thunder.
That’s one way of looking at it.
Geez, Jim. How do you write so well? Your little essays are verbal Rembrandts.
Back in the old days they used to call it a ‘Black Swan Event’.
Bookies would take bets on surviving simultaneous Black Swan Events.
Funny how many of you thought Mr Kunstler’s post today was brilliant. I thought it was one of his weaker ones, recycling past ones with even less clever verbiage. The only clear thing about the Israel-Gaza war is that finally the jew haters cannot hide behind the curtain of “ it’s Israeli policy I disagree with” Bullshit! How many of you microcephalic world political“ experts” on Israel know Jack shit about any other countries inequalities etc… exactly, nuthin!!!
Sean Hannity couldn’t have said it bettah.
Doc,
I don’t agree with you on JHK’s post, but I do very much on your description of microcephalic world political experts. Thanks.
See below, Doc.
How many other “allies” receive as much aid and are a bigger drain on the United States?
How many drag the U.S. into their imbroglios and wars that serve no direct benefit to American?
How many others rely/depend on the United States to defend them and their actions in wars and in UN veto actions?
How many others have undue, unparalleled, and unrestrained influence in US domestic and foreign policy? In U.S. elections?
Perhaps we would care more about Mexican inequalities if they were deciding our foreign policy, if our candidates were running over there to kiss the ring or a pyramid. Spouting off the talking points that Mexican interests preapproved? If Mexican Americans were an enormous funding source of election campaigns.
But nah, that couldn’t be it, critics just hate Mexico.
Fucking goof
When push comes to shove, there’re only a few here that I think can see reality. I especially call out the following who do and I appreciate them. In no particular order: Paula, JAZ, Beryl, BRH, stelmos, Ron Aselmo, Rowdy, EF, the inimitable OG, and believe it or not, Night Owl, even though he hates me and we yell and swear at each other. If I left someone out, it’s only because I can only remember so much at one time.
That’s a mighty fine line-up you built there, Bill.
Now if I were manager, I’d cut Spuds nada and add GA, you and our captain, the Big Kahuna.
Spuds is not major league. Spuds is just a 3 dressed up as a 9 who argues like a little girl.
Slugger would be good, too. Every ball team needs a Slugger.
“More Cowbell! More Cowbell!”
Right, Cowbell’s in. And BB, of course. Those three must be too busy with real life to give us CFNers nearly enough of their time, imho.
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I’d like to know the team average GLT of that line-up.
And more Mango would be good, too.
And I should have added Mr. Mango, too. Sorry, Mr. M.
Hey – appreciate the shout-out, bill and OG.
Rest assured I’m still here reading regularly, just haven’t had as much free time to chime in in recent weeks/months. Working mid-40’s dad and all that…
Do agree that everyone can also use more cowbell in their lives. “I’ve got a fever…and the only prescription…”
@OG:
Shit! I knew I forgot people. I was going to list GA, of course, but somehow I forgot. My bad. Same for CB – sorry, CB, but you deserve to be on the list.
Regarding NO, I understand what you’re saying, but in the spirit of generosity, I added him because he isn’t anti-Israel, as far as I can tell.
Pretty much all of what I have talked about at lenght for the past 4 years has come true.
Not much else to say, particularly when talking to people who never believed the stuff that came true when I said it.
There are about 4-5 people on this board who even understand argumentative fallacies, much less have the capacity to discuss anything in any real detail.
Most of them don’t post that often, which is unfortunate as lately we have to read walls of metaphorical hog mud instead.
Is Pinocchio over already? Ok, what’s next, little missy? Dumbo or Cinderella again?
I don’t watch movies, Hogger.
I did take in a good documentary on Gang of Four recently.
Andy Gill is the man.
“Pretty much all of what I have talked about at lenght for the past 4 years has come true.”
Yeah, sure…like ‘the water-marked ballots’? The ‘alternative slates of electors’? ‘The re-installation of Trump’? What else did you predict that hasn’t come to pass? I could write a fuckin’ book.
Despite your immeasurable arrogance, the world continues to revolve, aware that COVID is actually a thing, and that the WEF is a weird bunch of effete elitists that has little to nil influence.
Those were not predictions, Majella.
I see you are very upset this week. What must have happened in the news cycle to get ol Mike, I mean Majella posting again after so many bans?
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Oh, they were certainly “predictions”, you stuck-up fuckwit.
Also, by my reckoning, you’ve accused perhaps 8 current posters of being “Majella”. You must have a real thing about her.
No, they weren’t even claims, aside from the part about Trump being president (unless, ofc, you can reprint them for us)?
The election was stolen, which even you know.
It must be hard to be you Mike.
The Jello quivers. Cursing away.
Islander, who is the fool here. Your ignorance of much of anything is astounding.
Here goes.
Starting in 1917, the Balfour Declaration as issued by Britain as a public statement of its support for a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine, then a part of the newly deposed Ottoman Empire.
The rest of this is from the Office of the Historian for the US State Department as milestones from 1945 to 1952.
In 1945, FDR stated the US would not interfere in Palestine without consulting with both sides. The Brits opposed the creation of separate states in Palestine at the time. Britain held the control mandate in Palestine at the time.
Both powers, fresh from negotiations with the oil rich Arab states, were afraid of pissing off the Arabs with support for the Zionists at the time. Oil, oil, oil.
In 1946, Truman declared his support for Jewish immigration into Palestine and the creation of a Jewish state there. You can bet he talked to the Arabs before his declarations.
Throughout 1947, The United Nations Special Commission on Palestine examined the Palestinian question and recommended partition into two states, Jewish and Arab.
On November 29, 1947, Resolution 181 called the Partition resolution, partitioned Palestine into two states, Jewish and Arab in May 1948 when GB mandate expired. On May 17, Israel was created.
After 75 years of back and forth, treaties and wars, the two states are still there.
Islander, who is the fool, fool? Next time, know what the hell you are talking about.
Islander’s ignorance is only surpassed by her rudeness.
Nah , I suspect that it is that she merely isn’t a particularly warm person. Not a damning trait in my book.
But then I live in my own goofy world of curious ideas . So fuck what I think , even when what I think happens to be exculpatory.
Oh well.
I wouldn’t depend too much on “history” books, John. That summary sounds nice, but is it really what happened?
When one moves away from official narratives, one thing is clear: a state was carved out in a territory for a popluation that did not previously exist in said territory. It was carved out by men with power, money, and lots of fucking guns.
And another red flag: That state is supported by it’s parent states (not really states of course but rather an amorphous blob of money and power) regardless of the cost of supporting it.
As always, one musk ask: Who benefits?
You demanded that we not talk about Israel. You have shown quite a reversal.
There was no demand. I pointed out that it was stupid and the digital plantation is all that matters.
You were banned during most of the years when that was discussed in detail.
“A Grocer’s Apostrophe” prize for the Editor-In-Deutchland…
Bizarre capitalization and misplaced quotation marks for the unemployed multi-banee from New Zealand.
Any news for us on the Manchurain Candidate sleeper cells, Maj?
Your spelling remains as fecklessly random as ever, I see. Your editing skills must have suffered badly since your blue chip, globocap employer had enough of you and sent you home. Now, no doubt, you spend your time terrorizing your neighborhood while burning through as much fossil fuel as you can afford in your dinosaur vehicle.
The 540i gets driven about twice a week. Getting chipped to 420 hp soon.
And I do enjoy it quite a bit.
I also have the fireplace going as I type this from “Home Office” as the Germans say.
Professional editing pays well, Maj.
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Speaking of Musk, he has been getting more than his share of HEAT from the obedient, well-trained corporate media. Specifically, the DS-tight Conde Nast: WIRED has a recent long-whine about how the Russians are capitalizing on the billionaire’s lack of enthusiasm for the Uke-Black Hole:
Xttps://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-mocked-ukraine-russian-trolls-went-wild/
I suggest you read along well-lubricated with salt, the way you would approach an old-timey PRAVDA or IZVESTIA rant. What is amusing to me is how the elite clearly feels wounded by this apparent betrayal from “…one of their own…”
(Not simply a player but likely the richest-of-the-rich, though that is a hard metric to figure accurately)
Musk is a curious sort, innocent in his fashion; a recent video clip showed a clown car-full of heavies piling out of a limo before Musk himself stepped out. Obviously there are ongoing security concerns, and I’d have them too if I mashed toes the way he has.
His bodyguards looked like a pack of gym rats you’d hire as extras for an action film. If TPTB really wanted the errant South African dead he’d be liquidated without a doubt, with or without the intimidating ring of goombahs.
Living offshore, but as a kid-of-the-50s, well-doused in Exceptionalist State propaganda (growing up as the kid of a career SAC officer didn’t hurt either, in terms of brainwashing), I can appreciate the current frantic media-merry-go-round from a different perspective than those on board in Der Homeland.
The rise of BRICS and a general dismay with and distancing from Uncle’s threats and bleatings – not to mention an unending string of fails – has been one of the most curious and intriguing aspects of this New Era.
I’m seeing signs of dismay here, in a region known for its wariness and discretion when it comes to fatal alliances. Note that no ASEAN country has been attempting to horn in to the “Five Eyes” gang: nothing in it for them except heat from their biggest supplier and customer.
“On May 17, Israel was created.”
See “Use of the passive.”
Actually, “On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day.”
Not created by the UN.
“1947 – 1977: Partition plan, 1948, 1967, 1973 wars, inalienable rights
After looking at alternatives, the UN ***proposed*** terminating the Mandate and partitioning Palestine into two independent States, one Palestinian Arab and the other Jewish, with Jerusalem internationalized (Resolution 181 (II) of 1947). ***One of the two envisaged States PROCLAIMED ITS INDEPENDENCE as Israel and in the 1948 war involving neighbouring Arab States EXPANDED TO 77 PERCENT the territory of mandate Palestine, including the larger part of Jerusalem.”
Everyone knows that Israel proclaimed its own existence, in a deal with Truman. And that it did so IN VIOLATION OF in violation of what the UN had proposed and what the UNGS had voted on (and even that UN proposed partition was unfair to the Pals).
Israel has since then scoffed at not only Res. 181 but all other resolutions relating to Palestine.
Putin now proposes the the UNGA force Israel to adhere to Res. 181.
Gee, no comment so far from the Sage of Sagebrush Country, JohnAZ, on the actual facts of the creation of the Jewish State in Palestine, dubbed Israel by its creator, Ben-Gurion.
Watiing …. waiting . … waiting . . . zz-z-z-z-z–z.
This one was one of your best Jim.
Reality is telling us that Israel refuses to be massacred out of existence. Israel will defend itself with us or without us. It’s possible they’ll manage it intelligently.
Reality is people are trying to tell me that Hamas breached the most secure wall on earth with fifteen (15) different holes big enough for terrorists on dirtbikes while gaggles of paragliders gently drifted across the most surveilled border ever known to man.
Ans the Supernova love & peace music festival had been relocated to there just two days prior, as luck would have it.
Brought to you by Boris Badinoff.
What’s so bad about peace, love, and understanding?
The guy in the dakshini! Running, the dakshini flapping like the wings of a bat.
At least the ones who made it out will have a good story to tell their grandkids. I was listening to one Israeli guy who is against what Israel is doing. He describes himself as a Holocaust survivor. That means his grandparents were in one of the camps. Huh?
Quite a good fellow in the main, but that latter part is bs.
Well once a society stops believing in an after-life, living for today takes on a whole new meaning
Yes. Man has repeatedly turned away from God. It causes all sorts of chaos.
I found this>
the USS Liberty in which 200 Americans were killed/wounded in an attack by Israeli forces lasting longer than Pearl Harbor.
After torpedoing, napalming and machine-gunning the Liberty for nigh over 2 hours, Israeli forces fired on three life rafts the crew threw overboard leaving them trapped.
You left out the fact that Israel has sold US military secrets to China for decades helping build it into a superpower. Thus as America’s power wanes, China is set to overtake us.
You left out the Five Dancing Israelis arrested on 911. Upon returning to Israel they were interviewed on live TV where one of them said ”we were there to DOCUMENT THE EVENT’.
You left out the fact that the only mass arrests connected to 911 were of 200 Israeli ‘art students’. As per James Cameron of Fox News, “Some were on active military duty. Many had explosives training”.
You left out the fact that Silverstein who leased the Towers was good pals with Netanyahu who said 911 was ‘VERY GOOD’ for Israel. No kidding. 911 led to Middle East wars in which America fought Israel’s enemies.
Netanyahu even lobbied Congress for war with Iraq in Sep 2002. Iraq was attacked a few months later on Purim 2003! A war which led to thousands of dead, 400,000 wounded vets. Yet in which not one Israeli fought.
Now we are being sucked into the region again. Taking out Iran is a key goal of Netanyahu and the neocons. Which is why you’ve got so many IDF bots crawling over this site trying to manufacture consent for a new war.
Which once again America will be expected to fight, while Israel sits back as it did it Iraq. These Israel-Flrsters do their *fighting* online to sucker Americans into war. While America bears the brunt.
I don’t agree with those countries burning flags but they do it because America has been tearing up the region on behalf of Israel, as you well know.
By the way Jews are vastly over-represented in neocon movements calling for America to fight Israel’s enemies ….Yet vastly under-represented among those doing the fighting making up only 0.3% of America’s military.
I’d say it’s also an odd Democracy which denies 4 million the vote including many Christians. But I guess it’s the only spin you’ve got especially as Israel NEVER fought in a single war alongside America.
Boris Badinoff and his UN speech w/ diagram.
youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5BWYg6deuy0
[Note: The comment section has some really good chuckles.]
Does the US, and Britain, get involved in all this Middle East intrigue because of Israel or because of oil,
Or both. Would the US be involved as much if the Arabs did not control the oil market?
Were you around in 1973, when folks were killing each other because of the oil crisis. Do you realize that oils scarcity is one of the main drivers of inflation for 70 years.
Israel makes a little brother for the US in the ME, especially with the extent of the Jewish population here. It has pretty much taken care of itself, making a good proxy for the West.
BTW, that may be tested again now or soon as BRICS++ starts flexing its muscles.
Oil = modern life. In JHKs book TLE he says oil=having slaves.
Well said Malthus.
“Israel is a good proxy” Really?
What has Israel done for the US? Beside consume copious amounts of our tax dollars, while this country goes broke?
In 1973, Americans were not as wimpy as they are now, and they were more…”American”. Just wait to see how things play out this time, if the Persian Gulf states decide America needs a little “attitude adjustment”.
The US wrecked Vietnam. The US bombed Serbia. The US wrecked Iraq, Libya, and Syria. All illegal wars with no vital interests, or where no war was needed. All the millions of dead, wounded and displaced cry out for justice.
The US facilitates Israel’s apartheid state.
Over the years, JHK has intelligently pointed out the straws that will break the camel’s back and lead to the Long Emergency, but he skipped over the Military Industrial Complex.
That’s a brick on top of the straws.
There is a God and America has much to atone for, And so does Israel.
In the Old Testament, God let (or used) others to punish the wicked Israelites who strayed. These others didn’t necessarily enjoy God’s favor, but they worked His will.
Remember that when it comes to BRICS.
Well they help us help them. So that’s something…..
Well said but, don’t be surprised if our Benevolent Host doesn’t send you a NastyGram for such thought crime.
Halloween: Victoria Secret hired Megan Rapinoe as a model? What were they thinking? They just fired her as the shares were tending down. The market to the rescue!
Kat Von D is “blacking out” many of her many tattoos instead of getting them removed. She’s a Christian now! Why not get them removed? Too painful? She says likes the black skin in any case.
She’s keeping the tattoo of her father’s face. His white face surrounded by blackness. Is this a curse against her father? Or just the reality of our times showing itself in, or rather on, the Oracle of her Body?
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.
– Leviticus 19:28
Yeah she’s doubling down though she thinks she’s repenting. Or is she in fact a dark missionary to a small Christian town?
an insider told me most of VC models are trans.
Trnasgenders? Or transvestites?
Many transvestites are very good at what they do . . . without the cutting.
@ malthus:
I’ve heard that many “high fashion” models for all venues are really men, since the 70s. The desired body type for modeling “high fashion” is distinctly masculine: slim hips and long legs. Also little or nothing in the way of breasts. A rather “strong” facial bone structure is another marker.
Supernova Concert Site Location Moved 2 Days Before Attack In Israel: https://americanyellowvest.wordpress.com/2023/10/11/supernova-concert-site-location-moved-2-days-before-attack-in-israel/
Israel Supernova Concert Organizers Killed https://youtu.be/d74tAYYjb8Q?si=oQFm8-CXgkIb8Qvw
Yeah, I suppose I would be suspicious too if there was a concert in my neck of the woods at Fleet Center, then it got moved to Gillette Stadium, and then on the concert date it got firebombed, kind of like the Boston Marathon bombing.
The Boston Marathon bombing? They moved the route?
I don’t believe the Official Story on that one, either, though.
No, they didn‘t move the route. I’m not sure about the official story either.
“… the massive investment in Halloween yard shrines by families growing broke in America reflects the ghoulish convergence of malevolent events undermining and overtaking what used to be normal life… Nothing is normal anymore…”.
People are desperate to get their minds off all the pain and death going on around the World. And so, they create a home version of images of pain and death in their front yards to blow off some pain-and-death steam and to try to lighten the mood of people in the neighborhood by providing all those folks more images of pain and death. Death wearing a smile and a wink.
And what about our young people? How can we comfort them and ground them with stability in such perilous times? By installing more creative and pervasive trappings of pain and death! That will keep everyone distracted from all the ways we are methodically being done-in by the Hidden Hand now lead by the Grim One.
The Grim Reaper is not just running loose upon the Earth… but he has been installed in the Big Chair of the Hidden Hand that runs our World. All those false-god families that have run the World for the past few hundred years have ceded that Chair to the Grimster whom embodies the kind of pain and death that those legacy families enjoy and have fostered on the Planet for uncounted generations.
“… the first principle of US life in our time: that anything goes and nothing matters.”
“Anything Goes” was already done by Cole Porter. “Nothing Really Matters” was done by Madonna. See? The World is simply catching up with Cole Porter and Madonna.
And, “I Feel Free” was done by Cream… but since nobody really feels free anymore we don’t resonate with that one these days.
“… why do we allow that other half to drag us to the bone orchard? Do you see what it means to get your mind right when times get hard and the path is uncertain?”
When one’s spirit is broken, they give up. They don’t want to get their mind right. They don’t want to do much of anything. They just surrender and want the pain to go away. And We the People have been mentally and spiritually ground into the mud for generations by the Hidden Hand now lead by the Grim Reaper.
People don’t know what ‘normal’ is any more. Or perhaps, we have simply surrendered to the Madness and we installed a Sickly New Normal as our current and future version of a Normal that is anything but.
“It is possible to have faith in ourselves. Even as the days grow shorter, the people of this land can gather in the remaining light instead of worshipping the darkness.”
How does one get a zest for life back when most of all that has been drained by a lifestyle of misery? By recognizing that Life was NOT meant to be all pain and death and misery. There’s beauty in this World. Lots of it. All one has to do is to take their mind and spirit off of the Dark and allow the Light to enter in. That Light is bright and warming and healing. But no one but you can choose which window you view Life through. The Dark and The Light windows sit side-by-side. Only you get to choose which way you want to look.
@ RS:
See my upthread post about my list of people of realistic posters I like to read.
I am very sorry that I left you out because I always read your comments and I think you’re one of the best one. Old age is catching up to me because I just keep forgetting some people.
Hear! Hear! RS is always a great read! He doesn’t interact much. He produces and posts a brilliant little essay and then moves on.
I appreciate the kind words, beantown and OG.
When Our Host says, “While we are here, we have an obligation to those who come after us. The dead can take care of themselves. It is possible to have faith in ourselves.”
As much of the World wallows in pain and disconnection from self… there remains a remnant of folks on the Planet who remember what Reality is like and who crave and pray for a return to sanity and civility in our World.
And as for who will lead and light the way back to this Planetary Sanity… all you folks that gather on these pages every week are a pretty good group to carry the torch in your life circle. There is yet hope for the World as hope rules in your heart.
Yes, although it seems hopeless at times, what is life without hope?
beantownbill “… although it seems hopeless at times, what is life without hope?”
And what is Hope? It is not some passive or whimpy thing as some might think. It takes raw courage to have hope in a Savage Age. This when you as an individual say, ‘Hell no. I don’t accept any of this bad crap the way things appear to be now. I demand a better future. I lead my mind and spirit… not what is going on in the World or whatever someone else tells me to be and think.’
Having hope is radical power. It is the energy from which the other answers we seek will come from. Hope is not meekly waiting for ‘something good’ to happen out of thin air. Having hope is taking the steering wheel and MAKING something good happen. And when the Thin Air sees that… it responds in kind and other good things manifest.
Hope is confidence and resilience and faith. It is what leads the path to living a good and meaningful life.
Damn, Shaman. Nicely put.
I’ve been trying lately to focus less on the negative, which is hard, because there is clearly plenty to choose from on a daily basis.
Anyway, thanks for shining a little light using the right words.
Statistically speaking, bad times ARE the norm or reality.
Is Reality the Carven block of Masonry or the Uncarved Block of Zen?
Psychologically, the Carven block. Metaphysically, the Uncarven block.
Jarek: “Statistically speaking, bad times ARE the norm or reality.”
Yes and no.
There is the (‘apparent’) Outer World of faux-matter and human ‘events’ in which we collectively live. And then there is the Inner World (the World in our Minds/Spirit i.e. the ‘real World’) which can be untouched and unaffected by all that appears to go on around it (if we choose to use it that way. We can give in and contribute to the madness if we choose to). And the Outer World is but a reflection of what goes on in one’s Inner World.
So as you speak of bad times being the norm… there is always a mix of good times going on with the bad at every moment. And when bad events do happen in the Outer World… this is the end result of a mind collective of individuals who choose to conjure and create such bad events that are being hatched in their Inner World… and bad Spirit.
‘Reality’ means more than one thing. It requires a context. Our most fundamental reality is that we live in a Quantum Matrix of unlimited potentials that exist concurrently. It is only when we ‘Collapse the Wave’ (as Quantum scientists put it) by our ‘Observation’ that one of these Realities becomes manifest (chosen). So in short… ‘bad times are the norm’ when there are a sufficient number of individuals on this Earth who Observe it that way. The more people who choose to get their minds out of the gutter… the Outer World immediately begins to improve its station.
The ‘Outer World’ is always a reflection of our Spirit(s) manifested. This is the secret to bringing Heaven or choosing to live in Hell.
“Do you see what it means to get your mind right when times are hard and the path is uncertain.”
The path truly is uncertain and that is exactly what I have the most difficulty accepting.
I hate this feeling of not knowing for sure, of the deepening sense that my personal interpretation of reality seems pretty inadequate.
Maybe this is the personally painful truth about my world-view–being extremely uncomfortable with uncertainty.
Jim,
Being uncomfortable with uncertainty is a pretty common feeling – you’re far from alone.
The way I deal with it is knowing there is one certainty: death. Once I accepted there’s no getting around it, at least for now, every other uncertainty seems trivial. I am gonna die, period, either presently or in a while.
“Remember the Second Thomas Shoal!”
As a war cry, it leaves a lot to be desired, imo.
They need to put Hill & Knowlton on the case. They know how to do proper propaganda.
/apnews.com/article/south-china-sea-philippines-collision-67aa7e2ca5df4f4e3a7c3bceff46c26f
Every people have their myths and legends, Jews among them. The issue is that a politically powerful group of them believe it as fact. Given the vicious self entitlement in their myths, this is bad.
What is calamitous is that they demand that the rest of the world go along with their bullshit.
Bilejones:
I agree.
See Laurent Guyenot,
httpX://www.unz.com/article/israels-biblical-psychopathy/
It all makes perfect sense.
We are in deep shit.
Talk about projection!
Is that an American? Because everything he says about Israel does triple for the USA, but he never mentions that.
Unfuckingbelivable.
@ Bilejones:
I think what’s most to the point–and which I’ve had trouble finding an appropriate place to make the comment–it that none of this is our (the US’s) problem.
What we have in Israel is two groups of people fighting over a piece of real estate, just as people have customarily done for tens of thousands of years. This is of course within a context of the whole surrounding Arab world, which has also been fighting over real estate for tens of thousands of years. Not our problem–nor is it likely that we can have any lasting impact on this very alien world and its wars and grievances.
We owe neither Israel nor any of the Arab states anything at all. We shouldn’t be providing support for anyone in the Middle East, in the form of either blood or treasure. Let Israel fight its own wars without our support.
Tickerforum recently posted a little cartoon video about the Middle East (Israel in particular) that sums it up:
httpX://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tldCsMuflY
Incidentally, the claim that “this land is mine” by divine right has also been customary propaganda for thousands of years. Seems to me that people should realize that it’s a little shopworn at this point.
I wanted to watch your little cartoon before responding. But YouTube has pulled it already. How appropriate. I guess that I’m prevented from seeing that thought crime.
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Blinken. Nuland. Yellen. Think about it.
In DC, you support Israel or they will Cynthia McKinney your ass.
A or B.
I can still view it.
It’s gone for me.
Okay, Karl Denninger posted this link on Tickerforum, at the end of an article called “On Israel and Hamas,” which is on the “NAD” or “Cancelled” side of the blog, a ways down. I wonder if it pulls up from there because there is some way to save it and post it from your own saved stuff.
Anyway, if I put in the web address I posted, it says that the video has been removed, but it I go to the Tickerforum article and click on the link in the second-to-last paragraph–the link reads “This Land is Mine”–I can pull it up. Weird. (I forget what you call it when you change a web address to words of your choice.)
The word I was looking for in my previous post was “hyperlink.”
Anyway, here is the web address for the article on Tickerform, with the hyperlink to the Youtube cartoon I posted. For some reason, it works from the hyperlink.
httpX://market.ticker.org/akcs-www?post=249842
In the second-to-last paragraph, click on the hyperlink, “This Land is Mine.”
The Pain Of Decay
“Consequence was exiled on Main Street so you can get away with anything now — until you discover that, somehow, everything is broken. Your livelihood is broken. Your community is broken. Your household is broken. Your car is broken. Your children are broken. Your health is broken. Your faith is broken. Your country is broken.” ~ JHK
Brotin (Broken) (Live in Tórshavn)
youtu.be/l4mS_mhknu0?si=0B7P72-OuPDG9A-T
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“The extended festival of ghouls and dancing skeletons comes to an end in a week with the Day of the Dead, also known as All Saints Day.” ~ JHK
All Saints Day
youtu.be/JPuRKepfDs8?si=ZVcF_ShQtal4OSA0
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Supercute painting by the way. Halloween never scared me. I always liked bats, spiders, full-moonlit-nights, craggly leafless trees, attics, old Victorian houses, black cats, crows, scarecrows, ghosts, skeletons and stuff like that. Not so much the gory stuff, though, although admittedly, I did like a zombie movie scene where they asked one of the women zombies why she wanted to eat their brains and she responded in maybe an Eastern European accent, something like “To ease the pain of decay.”. I seem to recall her not having any bottom half, just an exposed spine that sort of wriggled around a little.
Maybe zombies can be reasoned with somewhat, like her, but I don’t recall them asking her to try to just skip on the brain-eating thing because then they too would turn into zombies and then have to go looking for non-zombie brains to eat until there was no one left except zombies forever full of the pain of decay.
I love Melania’s vampire voice.
If I was a Hollywood casting director, I would cast her in a new Bionic Woman reboot as a fembot.
Glenn Close, maybe more when she was younger, would have made a fabulous Bladerunner replicant.
But you know, what with facial deepfakes now, Hollywood is our oyster.
same ol’ same ol from JHK.
I’ve thought that he could always solicit submissions for, say, one of the two biweekly articles. Would give us the opportunity to critique that one in the comments section. Would you be up to it?
Swap a brilliant JHK essay/week for jackrabbit brain droppings? I vote “No” for that bad trade.
Have you had to wipe off any jackrabbit brain-droppings off your patio furniture? Are they easy to remove? Tips? Tricks?
(Just joking jackrabbit. I haven’t been following you, unlike OG apparently.)
“Killers of the Flower Moon is a 2023 American epic revisionist Western[5] crime drama film[6] directed and produced by Martin Scorsese, who co-wrote the screenplay with Eric Roth, based on the 2017 book of the same name by David Grann.[7][8] Its plot centers on a series of Oklahoma murders in the Osage Nation during the 1920s, committed after oil was discovered on tribal land.[9]”
Maybe Scorsese should start filming in Gaza.
I think you mean they suddenly died of smallpox.
I am not getting the reference.
“they” = who?
The tribal members who were murdered.
I guess you missed my upthread post about that.
The extended festival of ghouls and dancing skeletons comes to an end in a week with the Day of the Dead, also known as All Saints Day.” ~ JHK
I believe All Staints’ Day is Nov. 1.
The Day of the Dead, All Souls’ Day, is Nov. 2.
“The Day of the Dead – November 2nd
“The days of the dead are truly a celebration of life. When children dance with caricatures of death, eat skull sugar molds and learn to respect that life is brief, they learn there is a circle to life and to not fear death and then are free to enjoy and appreciate every moment.”
httpX://www.unm.edu/~htafoya/dayofthedead.html
From a religious POV, basically these are Catholic holidays.
I’m flying down to Buenos Aires stat to vote for Javier Milei
Whose goin with me?
Janos?
BRH?
Johnny??
hehe
🙂
A very great White man. You are wise to vote for such men. You’re gonna need allies down there.
Jews are obsessed with Patagonia. Is it to be the next Israel? Why? To be near the resources of Antarctica? Oil? The great Alien City? Fisheries?
Clothing brand?
Patagonia is the southernmost part of South America. You are an idiot or pretending to be one to avoid the question. Just another one of the idiots!
You can’t wake up someone pretending to be asleep.
Dunno, Janos
What a lovely painting, Mr. Kunstler. Also enjoyed your podcast with Eugyppius this afternoon. It would be nice if there were more voices like yours in the halls of decision.
Yeah, the voice of intelligence.
Intelligence, yes.
The palette of acceptable ideas presumed worthy for discussion is presently very limited. It is refreshing to see that is not the case here.
‘Your People’?: More Than One Way To Skin A Cat
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“Black Hebrew Israelites (also called Hebrew Israelites, Black Hebrews, Black Israelites, and African Hebrew Israelites) are a new religious movement claiming that African Americans are descendants of the ancient Israelites. Some sub-groups believe that Native and Latin Americans are descendants of the Israelites as well. Black Hebrew Israelites combine elements to their teaching from a wide range of sources to varying degrees. Black Hebrew Israelites incorporate certain aspects of the religious beliefs and practices of both Christianity and Judaism, though they have created their own interpretation of the Bible, and other influences include Freemasonry and New Thought, for example. Many choose to identify as Hebrew Israelites or Black Hebrews rather than Jews in order to indicate their claimed historic connections.” ~ Wikipedia
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“The Beta Israel… also known as Ethiopian Jews… are a Jewish community that lived for centuries in the area of the Kingdom of Aksum and the Ethiopian Empire, which is currently divided between the modern-day Amhara and Tigray regions of Ethiopia. Most of the Beta Israel community immigrated to Israel in the late 20th century…
They practice a non-Talmudic form of Judaism that is similar in some respects to Karaite Judaism. In Israel, this form of Judaism is referred to as Haymanot. Beta Israel appear to have been isolated from mainstream Jewish communities for at least a millennium. They suffered religious persecution and a significant portion of the community were forced into Christianity during the 19th and 20th centuries…
The Beta Israel made contact with other Jewish communities in the later 20th century. Following this, a rabbinic debate ensued over whether or not the Beta Israel were Jews. After halakhic (Jewish law) and constitutional discussions, Israeli officials decided, in 1977, that the Israeli Law of Return was to be applied to the Beta Israel. The Israeli and American governments mounted aliyah (immigration to Israel) transport operations…
By the end of 2008, there were 119,300 people of Ethiopian descent in Israel…” ~ Wikipedia
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“The Kaifeng Jews… are members of a small community of descendants of Chinese Jews in Kaifeng, in the Henan province of China. In the early centuries of their settlement, they may have numbered around 2,500 people. Despite their isolation from the rest of the Jewish diaspora, their ancestors managed to practice Jewish traditions and customs for several centuries.
The distinctive customary life of the Kaifeng community slowly eroded, as assimilation and intermarriage with Han Chinese and Chinese Muslim neighbors advanced, until, by the 19th century, its Jewishness largely became extinct, apart from its retention of memories of its clan’s Jewish past.” ~ Wikipedia
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We Are All Sikhs
” ‘Yes – observant Sikh men all wear turbans and beards. One of them joked with me: “Don’t ever be embarrassed about not being able to tell us apart; we all tend to look alike.’… And to add to the potential confusion, all of the men and women use Singh and Kaur, respectively, either as a middle name or as a surname – symbolizing their rejection of a historically prevalent caste system.
And like many cultural minorities in the United States, Sikhs have paid the full price. When Sikh men show up at airport security, they are randomly searched — one hundred percent of the time — because of their turbans. Seventy per cent of Sikh boys have been bullied in schools because of their turbans.
Maybe they should consider modifying the turban requirement, and just make it optional? How American of me to think that. Sikh men simply know that they have to be at the airport that much earlier. That’s the price they choose to pay for walking a religious road with one foot, and keeping the other foot grounded in Western society.
Thank you, my Sikh friends, for teaching me the lesson of religious integrity.
American Sikhs have some very ‘Jewish’ mishigas. They want to be Americans; they want to maintain their culture. They believe that all people have the spark of God within them; they want their children to marry other Sikhs.” ~ Jewish Journal
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Match.com, Mensa create dating site for geniuses
“It takes a special person to join Mensa.
For one, the elite society only takes individuals with IQ scores in the 98th percentile, meaning just 1 in 50 Americans is eligible.
This exclusivity – some might say snobbery – is part of Mensa’s lore. Early Mensans in Britain walked around with yellow buttons, organizational publications once referred to non-Mensa members as ‘Densans’, and last year, a top Mensa member and tester called anyone with an IQ of 60 a ‘carrot’.
In short, you don’t always join Mensa because you think you’re smart. You join to be set apart from most people, who are, as one member put it: ‘mundane’.
But a new partnership between American Mensa and online dating giant Match.com offers a new, enticing reason to join the society of geniuses: true love.
Beginning this week, members of the brainiac group can connect through a separate, exclusive dating service called Mensa Match. In addition, Match.com members can add a special Mensa badge to their profiles, signaling a specific interest in connecting with a single person with a confirmed genius-level IQ score.” ~ CNN.com
**Most of the clutter of bold font after ‘The Beta Israel’ is unintended.
“And like many cultural minorities in the United States, Sikhs have paid the full price. When Sikh men show up at airport security, they are randomly searched — one hundred percent of the time — because of their turbans.” Zaz
Because of their turbans? Ha ha. It’s good that they identify themselves so readily.
The wisdom of racial profiling.
You want to be on a plane during the next Flight 182?
If law-abiding Sikhs are bitching about being frisked during airport check-ins, maybe they should re-direct their frustration and anger toward their own t.errorist brethren who’ve caused the justified suspicion.
We can then survey stats and history from India. No mystery that one is much safer in mid- or South India, where the population is heavily Hindu, as compared to the much more heavily demographic skewing in the North toward Muslims and Sikhs.
Well that was just part of the copy-paste and not really part of the point.
Nevertheless, unsure where you reside, but it’s practically a running joke that when so-called Americans travel to many places overseas they, so despised at they seem to be or feel they are, masquerade as Canadians.
If some people are going to identify with State governments, and questionable ones at that, like anything, like quantum entanglement, it’s going to have its consequences.
Again, WRT identification, there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
U.S. policy
whoops
Great post as always James. I just have one nit to pick. the Day of the Dead is actually All Souls Day. All Saints Day is the following day.
James’ new religion says otherwise. 😉
Main thread in U.S. geopolitical policy is cowardice (and shortsighted capitalism), has been since Vietnam, probably before.
Backing Israel is sort of “the closest we are willing to get to an actual war with any Islamic powers,” hiding behind Israel to do it, letting them dictate the policy, extent and direction.
The Iraq and Afghanistan wars guzzled funds and accomplished nothing.
If U.S. wants an actual war with Islamic powers to secure actual longterm influence in and power over the region, the U.S. should do it, no half measures and no proxy, half-measure wars. If Israel is a vehicle for U.S. policy, it should be the U.S. accomplishing its own goals first. But the U.S. has no real goals or principles. In the absence of any real unified policy-direction or resolve, lobbying interests dictate all U.S. policies… the special-interest groups with means, and the corporations and contracting interests. Even globocap influence functions by filling the vacuum of real direction, vision and resolve among the people or their elected leaders.
Disagree?
‘But the US has no real goals or principles”.
Absolutely right. We have no expansion, no war, nothing.
Nothing to identify us an an American entity at all.
Watter’s World should ask “What does it mean to be an American?” Most could not answer that question.
We do not even have an economy to call our own.
Looking for a splinter party to divvy things up.
You’ve got the dog and the tail mixed-up, Gus. It is Israeli foreign policy that runs the US of A (not vice versa).
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The Iraq and Afghanistan wars guzzled funds and accomplished nothing.
I will beat this dead horse for as long at it takes.
It goes like this:
President: “We need another x billion dollars for more warring.”
Congress: “Done!”
Treasury: “Hey Fed, we need another x billion.”
Fed cackles maniacally while rubbing their hands together.
Fed: “Done!”
MIC: “Hey Treasury, over here!”
Treasury: “Done!”
The money is not “guzzled,” or “wasted,” or “squandered,” or “gone.” It has been transferred – it is now debt in your name and riches in their* pockets.
*Rich Men North of Richmond
The special interest groups are the pimps, Bob 22. I’ll leave it up to you to figure out who the whores are. As for an all out war in t he ME, that would be an imperial war, Bob, and we’ve pissed away our riches. We can’t afford the carrying cost of empire. Hell, if we were smart, we would have used Gorby’s capitulation to back off in the early 1990s, but we didn’t. We’ve been paying ever since, and now we’re really gonna pay.
It was not “pissed away.” It was grifted and snarfed.
The US military bases in Iraq and Syria have come under attack in the last few days, with US casualties.
Shit’s getting real.
But again, as long as the media doesn’t cover it, it didn’t happen, so we’re safe.
If the Mighty Wurlitzer starts cranking up the volume, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.
Late to the party as usual.
As for the natives in what is now the United States, see the Crow Creek Massacre as an example of how the white man destroyed an idyllic culture with all of their expansionist adventuring.
Always the White Man.
Ever heard of the Buffalo soldier, furyus?
They are responsible for fighting a lot of the Indian wars. They were Black.
Apologists will never get it, when a technologically superior group of humans need to expand because of resource problems, like disease or famine, they will expand to the detriment of natives.
Always has been, always will be.
The 20th century people of the USA are about to learn this lesson the hard way.
Will you feel better when they do?
It’s the 21st century now, JAZ.
Details details.
We’re almost a quarter through it. That’s like still getting the new year wrong in late March.
Wishful thinking. ;D
No, OG I meant the 20th century people, the few remaining patriots that remember what the US used to be. They are going to get run over by BRICS++ et al with better technology. The West is going down soon.
I have heard of the Buffalo Soldiers. Perhaps you haven’t heard of the Crow Creek Massacre. But you are correct in one regard, it’s thought that disease and famine played a part in the story. Put that six-shooter back in its holster, John.
No, but I have heard of the Sand Creek massacre where a group of Arapaho old men, women and kids were annihilated by a deranged army officer and the Colorado militia. I think most Indian disasters were caused by ambitious crazy army types or KKK style groups of settlers, mostly white by default. The Sand Creek massacre was both.
Just read up on the Crow Creek massacre.
It was a battle between Indian tribes as a result of resource depletion and possible drought in the 1400s.
Hmmm, no white guys anywhere in sight.
And I enjoy your post name, Furyus. You have plenty of reason.
Responding to the comments below, not above. I enjoy pointing out the natives here had no problem conquering and pillaging until they themselves were conquered and pillaged.
Read your comments for awhile, JohnAZ, I’m certain we’re on the same team, as “Joe Biden” would say.
Above, below, whatever.
Manifest Destiny.
See Lahaina 8/8.
Cultures may chase utopia but they are seldom, if ever, idyllic.
The above was my first post on this esteemed blog, and I drew sarcasm from my quiver as an introductory contribution. I probably could be a successful fly fisherman if I cared to be.
Dream it. Wish it. Do it.
@ furyus:
The idea that Native Americans had an “idyllic culture” is a Hollywood invention.
I’ve been posting a lot here, mostly because I just retired and I’m not sure yet what to do with myself.
Anyway, this may possibly be my last day posting for a little while because on Wednesday I have to go in for a colonoscopy, one of the most enjoyable things I like to do (super major /sarc.). Tomorrow I have to endure the cleaning out process, drinking 8 oz of fluid every hour, fast until after the procedure, then before I go to bed drink 15 oz of that wonderful magnesium citrate drink, followed by another 15 oz at 5 a.m. on Wed. morning. After which I get put under. It’s a real shitty procedure (pun intended). After the colonoscopy, I will squeak when I walk, I’ll be so clean.
Oh, yeah, for the past 4 days I had to go on a low fiber diet, which has made me uncomfortable. After all, we can’t have fiber leftovers lodged inside me.
Usually, people my age don’t have this done, but in my lifetime 3 prior colonoscopies, I’ve had polyps removed. You know, plop, plop, polyp.
Going into this detailed description of an unpleasant situation helps me cope.
BTW, I’ll pay anyone $100 if they go in my place and say I’m me.
As a multiple survivor of the same procedure, you have my sympathy. Luckily, today, they do not put you under as deeply as in the past and so less bad vibes post op.
Thanks, JAZ.
I never got bad vibes afterwards, so I hope they do make me lightly unconscious. I do remember many years ago I got a sigmoidoscopy. I didn’t get to take anything and I was fully conscious. It hurt like hell – maybe about the most painful I ever felt. I forgot about the sigmoidoscopy until just now.
I think the worst pain I ever had was after I had my gall bladder removed. They had to put a drainage tube in while I was healing. When they yanked it out, it brushed against my liver. It only hurt for an instant but that pain was so bad and so intense, I didn’t believe I could ever experience that much. I had had a gall bladder attack, which was why I went into the hospital. The pain wasn’t too bad, but I felt pretty sick. The doctor said my gall bladder was ‘chock-a- block’. He didn’t understand how I lasted so long with that kind of pain.
My wife told him that I had a high tolerance for pain, thus setting herself up for a great comeback. I replied that I was married to her for so many years, no wonder why my pain tolerance grew enormously. Lol.
I’ve been talking about my medical issues so much, but actually I’ve been pretty healthy most of my life. I hope that continues after my colonoscopy. They say youth is wasted on the young, while I say old age is not for the faint of heart.
Good luck, Bill! I look forward to your healthy return real soon.
FYI – I’ll continue to press Spuds for that apology that he owes you while you’re on the sidelines.
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Yo! Spuds! Where’s your apology that you owe Bill? We’re gonna have charging you interest.
Thanks, OG. I’ll be ok. The idea is so unpleasant that I need to complain in advance. If I’m not too hungry, I’ll be able to post tomorrow, then again possibly on Wednesday. We’ll see.
Hey Bill
I get one every year, as surveillance (polyp count falling over the last 7 years…) I look FORWARD to it – you’re right, you never feel as good when you’ve completely stripped out your alimentary canal!
What’s with the ‘knockout’ shot? I get the midazolam & fentanyl cocktail – it’s so great and thanks to the midazolam, you don’t give a rat’s ass, plus you get to WATCH it all, in living color.
I’m not sure what I get. All I know is the last time I got a shot and woke up just as they were finishing. I didn’t see or know what was going on.
Sounds lovely, Bill. See you on the other side (I mean after the procedure, not something more gruesome.)
I know what you mean, Paula. It’s not going to kill me, but I don’t like getting reamed (literally).
At least you don’t have to swallow an extremely long cloth that’s still outside your mouth when you poop it out and then they polish your whole tract by pulling back and forth on both ends.
Oh, no, I never thought of that! Very funny. Did you know yogis do that to clean out their sinuses? Really. It’ll be deja vous all over again.
Ouch
That is the worse flossing ever!
*worst
We’re hoping that that perspective makes beantownbill (less beans today?) feel at least a little better.
I’ll feel better tomorrow around 1 pm. I hope!
Fingers crossed!
Much sympathy. I’ve managed to avoid doctors and hospitals for most of my life, but sooner or later you get old and there’s stuff wrong with you. I’m still awaiting the third go-round of cataract surgery, where they put in a lens (so I can see), which has been put off due to inflammation. But in a few weeks I guess I’ll have to go in and endure having my iris dilated so they can stick something the size of a hubcap in there–which is what it will feel like for awhile.
It may make you a little uncomfortable (not painful), but wait until you can see better – it should make the experience worthwhile.
My vision was so bad that even cataract surgery and an implanted contact lens couldn’t get the vision in my left eye back to normal. I have keratoconus in that eye which gives me extreme astigmatism that exceeds the strongest corrective lens now available. Still, I can see pretty ok. My other eye is now 20/20, which is great.
I guess that makes both of us one-eyed people. My other eye is 20/20. I’ve been one-eyed for quite awhile, for all practical purposes, and thus I have avoided city driving. I’m fine on rural and familiar roads.
On a recent trip to Sprouts, I managed to knock over sever displays with the electric shopping cart. It got to where they assigned me a spotter. They were surprisingly kind about this.
Most of the trouble is that Sprouts has very narrow, cluttered aisles, with barrels and stacks of cute little crates stacked up for displays that stick out into the aisle–and they are on both sides at both ends of literally every aisle. Those electric shopping carts don’t have a turning radius that is adequate for this kind of situation, and they make rather sudden stops and starts.
The thing is, with only one good idea, a person has no depth perception.
The last time I was at Sprouts (after an eye appointment), my daughter came with me, partly to be my spotter.
Correction: With only one good eye, a person has no depth perception.
“BTW, I’ll pay anyone $100 if they go in my place and say I’m me.”
Bill,
I use your name all the time when visiting porn shops and liquor stores….
ef:
Thanks for giving me those good times. I was wondering why my tv only showed naked women having sex, and cases of vodka appeared on my doorstep, you sly devil, you.
“Consequence was exiled on Main Street so you can get away with anything now — until you discover that, somehow, everything is broken. Your livelihood is broken. Your community is broken. Your household is broken. Your car is broken. Your children are broken. Your health is broken. Your faith is broken. Your country is broken.”
This is surely a very unhealthy way to view our society. It is NOT as bad as you’re wishing it to be, or imagining it to be. But I guess this is a conclusion which is inevitable if you also believe this:
“Everybody knows that a ghoul was installed in the now-haunted White House. And everybody knows that the method of his installation was a fraud, a gigantic falsehood.”
When are you Team Crazies going to to finally let reality sink in? If you really believe this, then you wouldn’t bother voting ever again, would you? Yet, the Team Crazies are all pretty sure Trump is coming back in Nov 2024? It’s also quite bizarrely amusing just how all-powerful Biden is on one hand, while he’s a blithering idiot on the other. Cognitive dissonance much?
Nobody with a brain thinks Biden is in charge of anything, he’s just an actor that either is an idiot or is playing one. JHK says stuff like this all the time when he refers to “Joe Biden” in quotes.
As far as never voting again, many of us crazies are getting there but it’s a tough pill to swallow, because after the ballot box stops working you’re down to the bullet box, and nobody wants that.
Your ability to use HTML tags is broken. How ironic.
I guess if you think that stepping over bodies of the homeless on the streets is healthy, OK.
If children shooting each other on city streets is healthy, OK.
If children being told from toddlerhood that they might be in the “wrong body”, for which they need drugs and mutilating surgery, is healthy, OK.
If entire high school classes graduating without being able to read, write, or do arithmetic, is healthy, OK.
If Congress passing laws written by lobbyists, that they haven’t read, to further enrich the 1%, is healthy, OK.
If the criminal justice system being used to prosecute political opponents, but not criminals, is healthy, OK.
If fomenting wars in other countries, and spending billions to keep them going, while refusing to spend money to improve your own country, is healthy, OK.
If people in office use their office to sell political favors for their personal enrichment is healthy, OK.
If corporations and the government conspire to force people to take experimental drugs without their consent is healthy, OK>
Standing up for laws, morals, and standards is Team Crazie? OK.
I see you for what you are, though.
Wow, Paula – so all this has occurred since Trump LOST the election? What a rapid downfall!
Just focusing on the “Rigged & Stollen (sic) Election!” – the sight of Chesebro & Powell BOTH pleading guilty to the Georgia DA’s RICO charges, including their personal ADMISSIONS that the election was not stolen.
Along with the prospect of their testimony against Trump (who KNOWS he lost, despite what he says and how many of you Crazies have decided to believe him), this thing is going along as intended – that is, using the legal system to get at the truth (I know, you’re not familiar with “the truth”…)
“Standing up for laws, morals, and standards is Team Crazie? OK.”
Hahaha…you actually DO believe your own bullshit don’t you, Paula Dufus? The LAST thing Trump et al (which includes you, personally) will do is to stand up for law and morality – simply look at the guy’s track record of lying, cheating, adultery, theft, swindling, and chiseling – res ipsa loquitur.
Mostly everyone here seems reasonably intelligent, so there’s a real conundrum as to why you all believe such bullshit with such enthusiasm. Don’t you find it exhausting?
Time will tell as to who currently “believe[s] such bull shit with such enthusiasm.”
[Hint: Space Force & watermarks.]
OG – yes, I saw that crazy woman on TV going on about the Space Force knowing “everything” and the “watermarks on ballots”.
Are you aware that Night Owl Himself asserted the same thing re: watermarks in that frenzied time from 8 November to Christmas, 2020? He was also rabbitting on about some fire-fight in a CIA facility in Germany or some such, plus the Italian satellites and Spanish servers…none of which had even the slightest hint of evidence. Not that that would worry Night Owl.
Do not confuse wisdom and research with NO [aka Spuds nada]. They are oil and water.
Surely you are not saying, “Night Owl got some Q things wrong therefore Q does not exist.” Surely. Otherwise you’d be an illogical moron, Mike.
Two of CFN’s most-banned posters spinning tales again.
Maj (Mike) seems very upset this week.
Not seen a post count like this for a long time. Since you were known as Maj or Freddie, actually!
A long, long time.
😀
Probably Mike Sherman is just a troll, like Jarek, but not as clever or subtle. It’s sad really, adding white noise to an otherwise excellent discussion. But I’ve always enjoyed your comments Paula, and many others like neurodoc, JohnAz, etc.
Thank you. What do you believe? At least you’ve moved on from 666. It’s only up from that.
Thanks, kendar. Weird that Mike thinks that either JHK or I stated that the decline of America started 3 years ago.
Must be a reading comprehension problem.
But it truly is both, Mike. “Joe Biden” is all-powerful because he fronts a cabal that is all-powerful while the actor playing him often acts the blithering idiot. That hardly makes us crazy!
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And, I’ll do you one better. We needn’t wait for November 2024. President Trump recently promised that he would “take our country back” from “Joe Biden” in “less than five months.”
Many suspect that, for historical reasons, President Trump will be inaugurated on March 4, 2024.
The first inauguration of George Washington took place on April 30, 1789. All subsequent public inaugurations from 1793 until 1933 were held on March 4, except in 1821, 1849, 1877, and 1917, when March 4 fell on a Sunday and the public inauguration ceremony took place on Monday, March 5. Since 1937, it has taken place at noon EST on January 20, the first day of the new term, except in 1957, 1985, and 2013, when January 20 fell on a Sunday. In those years, the presidential oath of office was administered on that day privately and then again in a public ceremony the next day, on Monday, January 21. The most recent presidential inauguration was held on January 20, 2021, when Joe Biden assumed office.
Firstly, your initial ‘thought’ is dripping with idiocy, OG – it’s a placatory contradiction you find convenient to accommodate your cognitive dissonance.
Secondly – Trump will be inaugurated on 4 March 2024? I note the useful “Many suspect…” as being a non-fact-based assertion that allows you to go off with some historical facts that are not in the least bit relevant to the case.
Please, explain to us all in detail just how failed ex-president Trump will be able to pull this off “in five months”? Will he be seeking some suspension of whichever court case he’s balls-deep in at the time, so he can show up in Justice Robert’s office for a quiet swearing-in? You MUST know that you’re fucking delusional, right?
Nice of you to have left on the final sentence though:
“The most recent presidential inauguration was held on January 20, 2021, when Joe Biden assumed office.” There ya go – the truth.
President Trump recently made the “less than five months” promise, not me.
The March 4 date is Q speculation that matches both history and his timeline.
I can’t explain, in detail, how President Trump will “take our country back” from “Joe Biden” “in less than five months” because I am not privy to the plans.
Some general concepts to watch for, however:
Brunson Brothers & SCOTUS
EBS
10 days of darkness
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Perhaps I’m delusional or perhaps you’re clueless. In fact, perhaps both. Time will tell.
Words to go wrong by:
“Trump”…”promise”…”Q”.
There you go. You’ve almost admitted it’s all bullshit, but won’t read between your own lines, OG.
You can come back to me on March 5, 2024, and admit your clueless delusionality.
Just because I’ve omitted dozens or hundreds of hours of research (Juan O Savin, SG Anon, Derek Johnson, Michael Jaco, et al) is hardly an admission to anything at all, Mike.
And absolutely! If “Joe Biden” is still POTUS on March 5, I will humbly admit that I was wrong. [I despise pride. It’s such a stupid sin. There’s no upside to pride.]
“…hundreds of hours of research (Juan O Savin, SG Anon, Derek Johnson, Michael Jaco, et al) ”
Research is all to the good, IF you have truthful data sets from which to extract the facts. Do these blokes have such truthful data sets? How would they know anyway? How would you know anyway?
From what I can see (in the briefest of searches) these esteemed names are all also QAnon adherents. That tells me all I need to know.
“Q is wrong because I say so.”
That sure saves you a lot of time, I guess.
I’m not familiar with your posts in the past OG, but it seems like you really are the original gangsta. The more you write, the more I’m in sync with you. Keep it up, I’ll be watching out for you going forward.
Mike Sherman and his co-religionists–or shills or sock puppets–are like a bunch of guys watching TV while the house is burning down around them. You would think that nobody’s really that stupid, but, as we have learned over the past few years: surprise! They really are! They do exist. I have personally known people who are that stupid, so I can testify to that.
These guys will keep watching TV till the circuits are fried and die banging on the TV, trying to get it to work again.
Haha. Great analogy, Anthea.
As we look out the window of our supposedly burning house, we can observe a raving, ranting mob of weirdo people wearing red baseball caps, who have apparently LOST THEIR FUCKING MINDS and fallen down the Rabbit Hole of Conspiracy & Fear Mongering.
You guys are all in a crazy, quite small echo chamber. You live close by with like-fucked-in-the-head types, so even if you COULD see how wrong you are, you’d have to deny it because of the expectations of your cohort of like-minded fools. You don’t dare go against the zeitgeist, huh.
Huh? Are you saying that our planet is not run by the Rothschilds?
WHICH Rothschilds, OG? I have a good friend who married a Rothschild. No money, but.
The central banking Rothschilds, of course. Please tell me that you are not that clueless, Mike.
Name them for me.
I’ll do ya one better. Here are the Thirteen Bloodlines that run our planet for the glory of Satan:
Astor, Bundy, Collins, DuPont, Freeman, Kennedy, Li, Onassis, Rockefeller, Russel, Van Duyn, Merovingian & Rothschild.
OG,
You forgot Soros, or is he not a Satanist?
You DO know that Soros changed his name from “Schwartz” to Soros? Said “Schwartz” sounded too Hollywood….
Mike Sherman sees no indication that the US is suffering from severe social and economic problems, or problems with education or health care. I suppose he is not disturbed the homeless and drug-addicted in our cities, or the rampant crime. Not to mention the street-shitting. Some people would be bothered by 96,700 drug overdose deaths per year or staggeringly high death and disability rates among our working-age population, or by declining US life-expectancy. Inflation–and the likelihood of increasing inflation rates–bothers some people, but not Mike.
Some people are just oblivious, I guess–having little or no awareness of the world they live in.
I have a friend like that. I think his main problem is that he doesn’t know anything about anything–and probably couldn’t understand economics if he tried. He does enjoy watching “I Love Lucy” re-runs.
I would ask you to explain why it’s okay for the US to be $33 trillion in debt, but you probably are not even aware of that.
What is a healthy way to view our society?
That is a good question, Layla.
There seems these days to be such an extreme option that a critical observer has to wonder at the sanity of those who see death, disaster, and destruction everywhere.
These people are now seeing ‘demons’ as well (Roger Stone’s ‘demonic portal over the White House’ is as dog-whistley as anything I’ve ever heard of, but Ol’ Roger knows what he’s doing…). Even JHK has been on this Hallowe’en-adjacent melodrama for a few weeks now. It’s all quite sad.
The alternative is the realistic option – knowing things are not (and have never been) perfect, but getting on with a life worth living. To spend all one’s time obsessing about how other people view the world, and getting ANGRY about it, is utterly pointless and futile.
Do you think that demons do not exist?
*sigh* don’t even bother, OG. I was raised a Catholic (in the Irish tradition) so I know any ACTUAL demons are usually priests.
There are more dimensions than three, Mike. All will be revealed.
Demons do exist. I know this for a fact. Honest to God.
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FWIW, I was also raised Irish Catholic.
OG – as I said, don’t even bother. Your personal assertions as to what is true and what is not have no currency with me.
Understood. May God bless you, Mike.
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For those with ears to hear: Demons exist. Honest to God they do.
Perhaps you’ve missed a key concern. Mr. Kunstler provides details of how other people not only view the world but how those views translate into actions that impact society at large. There are also generous portions of death, disaster, and destruction in the world. Is it not critical to assess all aspects of reality when forming an opinion about the world and its workings?
Hi Layla
I’ve been reading Kunstler since around 2006. He used to have a sensible, logical approach to issues and potential solutions. Since his inversion/diversion/conversion following the Trump election in 2016, he’s most certainly changed his perspective – or at least the perspective he displays here…(red meat for the base?) – to the point where he reads as clearly as OG – which isn’t saying much.
Thank you for taking time to provide some background and context to the discussion. I am unfamiliar with OG, but I must say that I enjoy Mr. Kunstler’s writing style and expression as displayed here. I find his writing to be crisp, precise and entertaining.
Welcome, Layla. This is for you:
bitchuteDOTcom/video/7JeS2pagdVj0/
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to the point where [JHK] reads as clearly as OG
I wish!
Layla
I agree with you re: JHK’s writing style – it is punchy and concise. However, the way the core subject matter has evolved over recent years is alarming to me.
I believe I can even recall when it first turned septic. He had delivered a lecture at a university. The later dinner hosted by the department (English?) was peppered with honest and forthright opinions. JHK apparently made a remark about the fact (indisputable in my opinion) that Blacks do better in education if they drop the ebonics. This was reported to a third party who decided to be outraged for everyone she felt JHK had insulted. What a stupid bint. However, it blew up on Twitter and JHK suffered measurable fallout. Not surprisingly, he also felt more than a little aggrieved and suffered a drop in income thereafter. Since then, he has been expressing an inner rag & frustration. It’s this sense of frustration that, in my opinion, has led him down the MAGA path.
bitchuteDOTcom/video/7JeS2pagdVj0/
Your song is the third track on Side 4 (1:07:17).
Hi Mike
Thank you for sharing these additional details to clarify your reasoning and assessment. In your view, this MAGA path as you refer to it is a particularly distasteful outcome and you surmise that Mr. Kunstler was initiated onto this path by certain unfortunate encounters with colleagues and subsequent consequences. This development has an inherent logic, of course.
However, to play the devil’s advocate I would be remiss if I didn’t ask whether or not you think it possible that Mr. Kunstler was led down the MAGA path not by grievance but rather realization? Realizations, experiences that are not understood by yourself or his colleagues. Can you rule out the possibility that his current viewpoints have been reached via balanced contemplation and internal deliberations?
Thank you for the warm welcome, OG.
I’m enjoying these tunes, particularly the one you’ve attributed to me. Pardon me for the splash. I intended for my entrance onto the scene to be rather unremarkable.
@ Mike Sherman:
Meh. Some people are bothered by suffering and injustice; some people aren’t. Your approach appears to be denial: Everything’s fine.
As with most problems, the first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem.
Most people here are merely aware that we have a problem; some here have definite ideas about solutions. Maybe there’s even some sense to some of these ideas, or maybe not.
My thinking is that the solutions are not political–that there’s no use in proposing essentially politcal solutions, which come from the barrel of a gun, if you aren’t sufficiently well armed to carry them out. I think that we’ve reached the stage where the only practical solution is for you and yours–your friends and relatives and community–to be “the remanant,” and to keep civilization and faith alive in a world gone mad; to live, insofar as possible, untouched by the insanity around you.
I think that you, personally, would be well advised to look for solutions, which you can suit yourself about, as far as I’m concerned. But first you have to admit we have a problem.
“What is a healthy way to view our society?” ~ Layla
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Tell it like it is, how you feel it is, and maybe, if you can, take healthy steps in your own small way to change what you feel needs it.
I can’t argue with that. Healthy individuals make a healthy society. If an individual is unhealthy, society is less healthy as a result. A complicated web of relationships is naturally fragile and change can be deleterious if not in small doses, or steps.
Indeed there are monsters in our midst.
That is clear now to everyone.
All humans are monsters.
No they’re not.
And it’s that kind of thinking that seems to underpin counterproductive rationalizations to do nothing.
This answer from this individual in no way surprises me.
Which individual ?
No offense , but I don’t keep track of who is on your shit list this week.
Not an important question I suppose,
but I’m curious anyway. * shrug *
Shit list? A fan of multi-banees Mr. Hogger and Mr. Sherman are you?
What an odd choice of words.
I was referring to our Malthusian friend. Of course he thinks everyone is a monster.
KesaAnna, I think Night Owl was referring to gustafson.robert.22.
@ Night Owl:
All indications are that gustafson is against the existence of humans. So I guess I’ll get back to prowling around the kitchen, slavering and sinking my big teeth into what were previously cattle or hogs. Then I’ll set cruel traps for the rodents–which I don’t even eat, but just kill for pleasure. After I get done barking at the UPS guy, I think I’ll go to the theater and throw Milk Duds at people.
“Boo!”
The gaunt, hideous visage belonged to an unemployed New Zealander.
No, not Jacinda Ardern.
CFN, name that person!
“I choose government, and bitching about it.” ~ MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 21, 2023 at 6:03 pm
No you don’t choose Government. It is imposed on you and from a very early age. And horribly on the aboriginals that they now have all kinds of social and psychological problems they may not have had otherwise, probably in parallel with other historically-/government-disadvantaged peoples.
And now it appears like we’re slowly beginning to eat it in a reap-what-we-sow meaning.
Bottoms up!
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“Zaz,
Much invective. Dismissive. Bordering on the Ad Hominem. I truly expected more from you…at least an intelligent argument.” ~ elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 11:23 am
It’s spot-on, elysianfield, and I can understand why you might not have liked reading it. It puts you in your place.
Speaking of which, put it this way as a metaphor:
If you get in the way of people trying to bail on the Titanic and running around the ship looking for things that float to tie together and so on, and while that’s happening, you tell them all kinds of words of discouragement, you might be lucky not to find your ass, along with your dismissive half-assed cheek I’ve been reading here, kicked overboard into the frigid North Atlantic waters, ahead of schedule.
The curious thing , so it seems to me , is that we live in anarchy, and we always have.
Government is , and always has been , a kind of psuedo – religion or curious theatre that tries to convince us that we have more control than we have.
As far as Elysianfield goes , for example , I wonder why ,
except strictly for the money or the hobby ??
, why one would become a gun dealer if one sincerely believes the police will protect you.
Whatever the typical NRA member says , their actions seem to say that they realize they are on their own.
“, why one would become a gun dealer if one sincerely believes the police will protect you.”
Kesa,
It is because of my experience on the Department that I KNOW the police cannot protect you. They try, but when seconds count, response time is minutes. The police are a speed bump for criminals and anarchists, something that is always present…the threat.
Regarding the MG-34. Sweet Jesus, what a fine piece of German Iron. I used to shoulder fire it. Fond memories.
That was my guess , believe it or not.
On a related note ,
my theory on the Hamas attack ?
The authorities are not omniscient or omnipresent.
And the smartest guys in the room never prove to be so.
Maybe the real problem is that the theory is boring ?
Kesa,
My theory? I have no idea. Intelligence error, false flag, new found incompetence? Who knows?
“In your case, I’m somehow reminded of the expression, ‘You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.’.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle
“Zaz,
Please do not confuse a failure to understand your thesis with an absolute rejection of it…” ~ elysianfield October 24, 2023 at 5:23 pm
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“The police are a speed bump for criminals and anarchists…” ~ elysianfield
You seem to be offering an example of; operating in bad faith; subverting your own request not to ‘confuse a failure to understand my ‘thesis’ with an absolute rejection of it’; while underscoring an intuition I might have about you or, to be charitable, a particular approach of yours. Hence the bit about the horse and water.
” Hence the bit about the horse and water.”
Zaz,
You like quotes?
“You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”…”Yeah, but if you pull their wings off, you can get them to eat anything you want”~ K. Bundy
Oh, man…that’s deep….
Good luck with that attitude.
Zaz,
It is not my attitude, but something of a truism. I will further suggest that the work of K Bundy is far more important, far more meaningful, than anything Emma Goldman ever uttered.
kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/halloween-parable/#comment-834330
Zaz,
Your impassioned and entirely erudite argument supporting your thesis has me dumbfounded…gob smacked! I almost swallowed my tongue.
…You have put me in my place….
Your ‘place’ from, say, a ‘sociopolitical microcosmic-macrocosmic’ take/metaphor seems to be where you’re somehow hamstrung as part of your modus operandi before you enter some sort of sporting match.
In your case, I’m somehow reminded of the expression, ‘You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.’.
Zaz,
Please do not confuse a failure to understand your thesis with an absolute rejection of it….
Chaos Theory, Initial Conditions & Parties of Chaos
Well that’s just something I was reminded of and maybe applies more elsewhere. So fair enough.
But what part of equity, mutual trust and mutual consent do you not understand?
What part of a respectful relationship from the start/ground up rather than an abusive one do you not understand?
What part of building a solid foundation and framework from the start/ground up do you not understand?
Anarchism/anarchy is just common sense.
I can also argue it from a chaos-theory angle too:
Take the two above ‘seeds’– essentially a good and bad relationship– and run them over time. Which one will most likely take turns for the worse?
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I drop in here from time-to-time. Failing neurological disorders and whatnot, we learn until our last days:
theanarchistlibrary.org/special/index
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The Man They Call Zazelle October 20, 2023 at 2:52 pm:
“Dystopia’s Word For ‘Impossible’ Is ‘Utopian’
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““If the Anarchists got into power” ~ BackRowHeckler
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“Anarchists don’t ‘get into power’. That’s the point.
In fact, it’s quite simple:
It is a society organized (however it wants) around;
• Equity
• Mutual Trust
• Mutual Consent
That’s pretty much it.
That’s what forms the basis of any decent, lasting, fulfilling relationship in general.
There’s no need to over-analyze anarchy.
On the other hand, if your idea of a relationship is;
• Inequity
• Mutual Distrust
• Mutual Non-Consent
Then anarchy is most likely not for you.”
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“In chaos theory, the butterfly effect is the sensitive dependence on initial conditions in which a small change in one state of a deterministic nonlinear system can result in large differences in a later state.
The term is closely associated with the work of mathematician and meteorologist Edward Norton Lorenz. He noted that the butterfly effect is derived from the metaphorical example of the details of a tornado (the exact time of formation, the exact path taken) being influenced by minor perturbations such as a distant butterfly flapping its wings several weeks earlier… He discovered the effect when he observed runs of his weather model with initial condition data that were rounded in a seemingly inconsequential manner. He noted that the weather model would fail to reproduce the results of runs with the unrounded initial condition data. A very small change in initial conditions had created a significantly different outcome.…
The butterfly effect concept has since been used outside the context of weather science as a broad term for any situation where a small change is supposed to be the cause of larger consequences.” ~ Wikipedia
“But what part of equity, mutual trust and mutual consent do you not understand?
What part of a respectful relationship from the start/ground up rather than an abusive one do you not understand?
What part of building a solid foundation and framework from the start/ground up do you not understand?
Zaz, Zaz, Zaz…What part of “human nature” do you not understand?
Your thesis begs for real world examples. I have a few;
Haiti
Somalia,
Life in Prisons…everywhere.
Until you can provide examples of Anarchy in practice, what you offer is mental masturbation.
“What if they gave a war and nobody came” might be subtle and considered deep thought by the group of serial masturbators you frequent. Instead of the trite quotes you offer, why not something in your own voice.?
I remain,
In my place
“Until you can provide examples of Anarchy in practice…” ~ elysianfield
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That’s a different issue (and I seem to recall already putting something in the threads to that effect or thereabouts)…
Also…
“Argument from ignorance… is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition… is false because it has not yet been proven true.” ~ Wikipedia
I could continue but we’ll leave it at that for now.
““Until you can provide examples of Anarchy in practice…” ~ elysianfield
That’s a different issue.
Zaz,
No, that is THE issue, the one you continue to dodge, knowing that your premise cannot be found in human history in other than abject failures.. You have no example of your brand of anarchy working to the benefit of humanity. All you could cite, if you were honest, are failures, but you choose to dodge and weave, spewing Marxist tract and half baked ideas. From you only glib retorts, vague insults, and dismissive comments.
Zaz, if you have a pair, give us ONE example, one only, of anarchy being successfully applied as a political system.
Just one.
…Please?
I remain;
In my place.
elysianfield, perhaps you missed my talk with Jarek about it a few months ago. I might have mentioned it a few times since then, but here goes again:
We grew up in relative anarchy, in bands and tribes for most of our existence. Sure not every band/tribe/village was as enlightened as the next.
Anarchy is our natural wiring. The State governments as we know them are a blink of an eye by comparison.
Shall we talk about Haiti or Somali now or shall I ‘dodge’ that question for the time being?
Or would you rather stick with the tribal/band thing for now?
Anything else? Want to name-drop another author?
““Until you can provide examples of Anarchy in practice…” ~ elysianfield
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“That’s a different issue.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle
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“Zaz,
No, that is THE issue,” ~ elysianfield
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Not really, despite your insistence and despite my mentioning relative tribal/band/village/small scale anarchy.
Seems, rather, more like you’re trying to dodge your logical fallacy.
If the issue is to go to Mars for example, obviously it has not been done yet. So the issue is how to actually start it and do it where it has the greatest likelihood for success.
Ditto with anarchic ethics as I already mention, and getting to some better, if not entirely anarchic, point in our history.
That’s the issue.
That people are bad is obvious, but that’s no reason not to try. Mars is bad too. Not much in the way or warmth or an atmosphere and very far away.
Zazelle – No you don’t choose Government. It is imposed on you and from a very early age.
Disagree.
Sure, most everything we know is instilled in us from an early age. But humans always seek leaders within their groups, whether it be the aboriginal chief or the church book club organizer.
Every business meeting has a point person and a boss overseeing.
Every McDonald’s has a manager.
Every TV show has a producer, a writer and a director.
Otherwise nothing would get done, due to the basic nature of humanity.
Every organization, from the local VFW with seven members to a city of 8 million, craves at the very least a simple power structure, and instinctively installs one to create order.
You seem to be implying that anarchy is “natural”, but it is not…well, not for humans in a social setting, at least.
Either way, you seem to have chosen an interesting hill to perch upon, given it will never come to fruition as long as people are involved.
I view anarchy the same as I do a hippie commune who’s claiming to “live different, man.” Sure, you might. For a while. But you’ll still elect a leader. And everyone will move away within a few years and go back to structure that makes sense. Maybe even get a job at Chipotle.
Mango’s Happy Little Mandated Life
“Anarchism [anarchy] is participatory… it’s based on the assumption that any authoritarian or any structure of authority and domination has to justify itself– none of them are self-justifying– whether they’re in individual relations, or international affairs or the workplace or whatever… They have a burden of proof to bear, and if they can’t bear that burden– which they usually can’t– they’re illegitimate and should be dismantled and replaced by alternative structures which are free and participatory and are not based on authoritarian systems…” ~ Noam Chomsky
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MrMangoOnMyShoulder, there is consensual authority, like being a parent or pilot of a plane and maybe some of your examples, and then there’s ‘pseudoauthority’, served up with the threat of violence and/or imprisonment and/or fines (same ideas).
Remove your real or hypothetical kids from a government-mandated curriculum and see if a social worker doesn’t show up at your door.
Zaz,
Put aside quotes from that repository of knowledge, Wikipedia, and peruse some literature on what intelligent fiction writers and movie directors have to say about anarchism based on how humans actually behave across time and different cultures and religions.
Thomas More’s Utopia.
Nathaniel Hawthorne’s The Blithedale Romance.
Dostoyevsky’s The Possessed.
Louis Malle’s May Fools.
Laurel & Hardy’s Utopia.
Luis Bunuel’s Viridiana.
You sound no different from a Marxist who believes in the ‘perfectibility of Man’. People usually get cured of that by their early twenties.
You sound no different from a Marxist who believes in the ‘perfectibility of Man’. People usually get cured of that by their early twenties.
Exactly my thoughts, SF.
We are what we are, we crave what we crave, and we automatically put the same systems in place no matter who we are or where we are on this earth.
Assuming humanity is capable of organizing itself into a “free and participatory” system with no top-down leadership structure is pie-in-the-sky Star Trek utopia bullshit.
So we do the best with what we have; sometime it works better than other times, according to, well, history.
Sorry Zazelle, you will not be changing my mind on this one, especially not with playful, condescending college freshman-level ad homs.
Also, Chomsky is a tool.
That’s not Wikipedia, it’s Chomsky in that case.
Also, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Presumably, you understand that it has references that can be followed up. Presumably you also understand that the internet is a library.
As for fiction, we’ll leave that to you et al..
@MrMangoOnMyShoulder see also here:
kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/halloween-parable/#comment-834255
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“Also, Chomsky is a tool.” ~ MrMangoOnMyShoulder
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Aren’t we all:
“Ad hominem (Latin for ‘to the person’), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a term that refers to several types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion to some irrelevant but often highly charged issue. The most common form of this fallacy is ‘A makes a claim x, B asserts that A holds a property that is unwelcome, and hence B concludes that argument x is wrong’.” ~ Wikipedia
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elysianfield’s also doing well in that regard upstairs in their ‘place’:
kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/halloween-parable/#comment-834330
“Sorry Zazelle, you will not be changing my mind on this one, especially not with playful, condescending college freshman-level ad homs.” ~ MrMangoOnMyShoulder
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Where’s the ad hom by the way? The header? If so, that doesn’t qualify.
But I like it. Don’t you?
Ad homs are when you call the person you are arguing with names. Calling Chomsky a tool does not qualify, nor is it untrue.
Done with this guy.
Now don’t forget to come back with the last word, proving you are right…
Also, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia.
Now that was a good laugh, sir.
“Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia” ~ Wikipedia
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“Wikipedia, free Internet-based encyclopaedia, started in 2001, that operates under an open-source management style. It is overseen by…” ~ Britannica.com
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Wikipedia Is the Last Best Place on the Internet
“People used to think the crowdsourced encyclopedia represented all that was wrong with the web. Now it’s a beacon of so much that’s right.” ~ Wired.com
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“Also, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle
“Now that was a good laugh, sir.” ~ MrMangoOnMyShoulder
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“Sorry Zazelle, you will not be changing my mind on this one, especially not with playful, condescending college freshman-level ad homs.” ~ MrMangoOnMyShoulder
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“Sorry Zazelle, you will not be changing my mind on this one, especially not with playful, condescending college freshman-level ad homs.” ~ MrMangoOnMyShoulder
“Where’s the ad hom by the way? The header? If so, that doesn’t qualify.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle
“Ad homs are when you call the person you are arguing with names. Calling Chomsky a tool does not qualify, nor is it untrue.” ~ MrMangoOnMyShoulder
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LOL… Not what I asked, but, correct!
Kent Monkman’s The Scream: Images That Define Atrocities
“Canadian Cree artist Kent Monkman’s graphic and gut-wrenching painting The Scream (2017) depicts a chaotic scene. Mothers are held back by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Mounties) as they lunge toward their children, who have been snatched from their arms by Catholic priests. That scene encapsulates the anguish of the all-too real history of aggressive assimilation that saw children torn away from their families and taken to residential schools, and where untold other abuses, physical and sexual, took place. The practice was in effect from the 1880s to the 1990s, led by the Catholic Church with the approbation of the Canadian government.”
bbc.com/culture/article/20210706-kent-monkmans-the-scream-images-that-define-atrocities
(image of the artwork also at that link)
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“I choose government.” ~ MrMangoOnMyShoulder
In the United States in the 1920’s the KKK tried to pass laws in many states that would have made private schools , particularly religious private schools , specifically Catholic schools , illegal.
They ultimately failed , but that process never ends.
A fundamental problem with state – financed education is that everybody will pay for it ,
but there will never be equal say in the management of it.
And it seems to me that it stands to reason that sooner or later people you don’t like , or your avowed enemies , will wind up in charge of it.
If you really are into anarchy ,
then I suppose a much more interesting article would be on the subject of why a government gave so much authority to the Catholic Church , when Canada is not majority Catholic.
So who exactly are these bad people some, perhaps like elysianfield and cronies, think the State is supposed to protect us from?
Maybe, at least in part, and perhaps most crucially and ironically, those who defend and support the State, itself.
“So who exactly are these bad people some, perhaps like elysianfield and cronies, think the State is supposed to protect us from?
Zaz,
Cronies? I wish I had me some cronies…
It appears better than that even:
You just replied to a comment where I lumped you potentially in with the very bad people you mention and/or insinuate needing gov’t to protect us from and/or something to that effect, yes?
If so, your place seems to be getting quite cozy.
Zazelle, you’ve been studying from the playbook of some other posters here in terms of obfuscation.
You left out the actual point in my quote, intentionally…which was:
“I choose government, and bitching about it.“
To be fair, you fully quoted it the first time. But then decided to shorten it for effect the second time around.
It seems it did your quote more of a favor by leaving that part out, though.
Go ahead and read it with that part added and be honest with yourself.
Ah, I see you’re a “last word wins” kinda guy. Enjoy that.
Your comment made no sense. Congrats.
LOL
I’m glad we have the money for more wars. Wars are one thing we do best as Americans.
If that sarcasm was super-glue, it could fix anything.
I was not raised a Catholic , I was raised a Communist , so I know any ACTUAL demons are usually politicians and police.
that’s a good answer, KesaAnna
🙂
I’m not opposed to Israel.
I just want them to pay for it.
Granted , I suspect that without foreign aid they wouldn’t last 20 years.
I have little doubt they could win any war against the Arabs , but , typically , winning a war isn’t the hard part.
Like I suppose Israel could easily over run Lebanon , Syria , Jordan and Egypt.
But then that would mean that in the south they now border Sudan and Libya. Maybe a case of the folks you used to border were incrementally better than the people you now border.
In the north , Israel would now border Turkey and Iraq directly.
It’s speculation , but maybe Turkey wouldn’t really like sharing a border with Israel.
As for Iraq , the United States couldn’t pacify Iraq in 20 years.
Maybe bordering the wild wild East wouldn’t be so wonderful.
Then of course there is the logistical and demographic nightmare of occupying all this territory.
Modern man seems highly resistent to the notion that imperialism doesn’t pay anymore ,
that occupations are prohibitively expensive.
Never the less , they ARE prohibitively expensive.
@ KesaAnna:
I agree. I have no opinion about Israel’s existence. Neither do I see any reason why the US should be ensuring their existence with aid to the tune of billions a year. Clearly, using US resources securing some other country is against US interests. People who advocate acting against US interests on behalf of another nation are, obviously, people whose loyalties are not to the US, but to that other nation.
I’d say that anyone in the US whose primary loyalty is to another nation, and who advocates policies that are against the interests of the US, in favor of that other nation, are acting in a way that should not be tolerated.
anyone in the US whose primary loyalty is to another nation, and who advocates policies that are against the interests of the US, in favor of that other nation, are acting in a way that should not be tolerated
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck.
Let’s call it what it is: treason.
Isn’t OG Canadian ?
I would hope he wouldn’t put U.S. interests before Canadian interests.
As for myself , let’s clear up any confusion on that matter ;
I’m an enemy of the United States , and I always have been.
But then , what sort of advice do I — try to — give my enemies ?
— Keep your money . Don’t give your money to others , like to me , for example. Always assume that if it isn’t strictly a voluntary contribution , then it isn’t strictly licit.
— Trust yourself before you trust others , and trust others before you trust the folks who are heavily armed with your money.
Granted , this may all be an extremely grim and cynical world – view ,
but it certainly isn’t anti – democratic or particularly threatening to your freedom.
In contrast , at least 90% of the time , if I imagine hypothetically what is the worst possible advice I could give my enemies —-
that is the advice your friends give you.
I am indeed Canadian – born in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan.
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I’m afraid that Canada is captured territory now. Prime Minister Trudeau and Finance Minister Freeland are WEF stooges. There’s not much to treason against anymore.
That’s okay, OG. China is going to own the western part soon anyway. Maybe Canada will be a battle site between WEF(east) and BRICS++(west).
You should invest your money in gold. I hear it is the only way to survive the “coming collapse.”
The Hogger can help you melt it it down and sustain yourself for a week or two.
Good luck.
@ OG:
I was trying to tiptoe around saying that, but that’s what I think.
@ OG:
I would add, re your “treason” comment, that I have no objection to anyone rooting for their team, whichever it is. Just keep your hands out of my pocket, and don’t lay hands on my kin.
@elysianfield:
I don’t see any value of Israel for US “force projection in the oil-rich Middle East.”
The US has military bases in the Middle East. How exactly does Israel “project force” on behalf of the US? How has it been beneficial to the US?
I willing to be convinced that Israel serves some purpose for us. I’d just like to know what it is–along with a cost/benefit analysis (if indeed any such benefit exists).
Frankly, it seems to me that Israel’s presence in that part of the world has served only to create a lot of completely unnecessary violence, hostility, and chaos. For starters, a large portion of the Arab world would not now be squaring off against the US over the Gaza situation.
If the various nations and factions among the Arab world would like to have wars with each other, that’s their business. The chief effect of Israel’s existence seems to me to be to suck the US into the fray, completely unnecessarily.
“The US has military bases in the Middle East. How exactly does Israel “project force” on behalf of the US? How has it been beneficial to the US?”
Anthea,
Exactly! However, in the early 1950’s and 60’s, we didn’t have other assets…so Israel became a proxy.
Now, as you describe, there is little value in our support…a negative.
“Neither do I see any reason why the US should be ensuring their existence with aid to the tune of billions a year. Clearly, using US resources securing some other country is against US interests”
Anthea,
Initially, Israel was used as a force-projection of US interests in the oil-rich Middle East. Cannon fodder. Good Israeli boys dying instead of good American boys…
Israel’s and US’s interests are becoming less aligned…as the US loses influence in the Middle East, only politics at home will keep Israel ‘s interests maintained. They have otherwise lost much of their influence strategically.
“I have little doubt they could win any war against the Arabs , but , typically , winning a war isn’t the hard part. ”
I’m not so sure about that—unless nukes come into it.
If Israel didn’t have nukes, they would have IMO been gone.
I won’t say “long ago,” because I think their neighbors have upgraded their weaponry fairly recently.
However, the Zionists are fanatical enough to push the red button and take everyone else with them.
Except—kind of like the game Fortunately, Unfortunately–we can’t be sure of the defense systems and the speed of nuclear blowback.
The rules of engagement in the ME are a moving target at this point.
BOMBSHELL intelligence analysis: Israel ordered STAND DOWN to allow Hamas to attack – Jeffrey Prather and Mike Adams
brighteon.com/3e5434ad-c9c4-49fc-a9e7-e238c6d753f1
Duh.
I know, right?
As Jeffrey Prather says, ‘This is the biggest story of the year. Maybe the decade. But nobody will cover it.’
Reminds me of the intelligence analyst who said the 2020 election ballots had been watermarked and massive fraud was about to be proven ?
Much of that info. was supposedly part of Powell’s court case, which the corrupt legal system refused to hear.
That clearly means it was all wild conspiracy.
Also never forget that Pfizer would never hurt you and 9/11 was the result of office fires.
The McMedia is your one source of true information. Or was that Jacinda Ardern?
Sorry, NO. I think in this case it was just bullshit. Only my opinion, of course.
Well, us plebes will never get to know. But I find that blocking attempts to prove a case in court tends to suggest that the blockers know something they don’t want you and I to know.
Or, Nightie, it could be that the claims were just utter bullshit and the court couldn’t entertain the arguments because there was no evidence to justify a court case. Jeez – even Powell herself said “reasonable people” wouldn’t believe her election fraud claims:
nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/sidney-powell-s-legal-defense-reasonable-people-wouldn-t-believe-n1261809
Well, Jello, if that were the case, then we should have heard the arguments.
I will commend you for returning to CFN, however. Self-flagellation is a common fetish for individuals of your persuasion.
That was the Nightie, himself, claiming that BS around here.
“Trump told me to drink bleach”
— Muh Jello (Mike Sherman)
” acting in a way that should not be tolerated. ”
Whatever once may have been true , it is no longer true that somebody forces you at gun point to go to church , or forces you at gun point to put money in the collection plate.
In contrast , near as I can tell , the IRS and the FBI and CIA don’t ask your permission for a god damned thing.
But apparently according to most here it is the former , not the latter , I should worry about.
It looks to me like the old blame the powerless , not the fantastically powerful.
100 years after the inauguration of Prohibition , while there may be no evidence that we were better off in 1919 ,
there certainly is not a shred of evidence that we are better off than in 1919.
In short , I wouldn’t trust any Western politician to judge soberly and morally what is tolerable ,
any more than I would trust Kim Jung Un to judge it.
And for that matter , no one on CFN I would trust that much either.
The Silver lining may ultimately be that if you don’t go broke fighting everyone , you may go broke locking everyone up.
” I’m afraid that Canada is captured territory now. Prime Minister Trudeau and Finance Minister Freeland are WEF stooges. There’s not much to treason against anymore. ”
Acceptable answer I think . 🙂
Okay, Islander, here goes.
On 23 Sept.1947, ad hoc committee was formed by the general assembly to study the Partition Proposal. Comprised of three parts, Britain, Arabs and the Jewish Agency. The Arabs rejected most of the Partition plan, the Jews accepted most of it and Britain, sitting the fence(my words) “did not feel able to implement the Plan” unless both sides agreed to it.
On October 23. 1947 Ad hoc subcommittee was formed to draw up a plan based on Arab proposals. The result was put to the International Court of Justice and blessed.
This resolution was passed by the General Assembly on 27 November 1947. 33-13 with 10 abstentions, making the 2/3 requirement. Significant votes were, USA yes, Soviet Union yes. China abstain, Britain abstain. Interestingly, Ukraine voted for.
The UN blessed resolution was probably celebrated in Jewish Palestine and put down violently by the Arabs in Palestine and from Arab countries surrounding Israel. So the Brits terminated their mandate on May 14, 1948.
BenGurion read the Israeli Declaration of Independence on May 14. The Jewish nation now proceeded to kick the crap out of all the surrounding Arab states and the Arabs in Israel to enforce the Jewish half of the resolution. The US recognized Israel immediately as the result of pressure on Truman and the Democratic Party by Pro-Zionist forces here. The Soviets recognized Israel on the 17th.
Resolution has been returned since to the International Court of Justice in support of Arab rights and its legality confirmed. In 2011, Abbas stated that the Arab rejection of the tenets of 181 was a mistake and he was going to try to remedy it.
Think, if the Arabs had followed through with the Resolution instead of trying to drive Israel into the sea, their lot today would be very different.
They will never defeat Israel, no matter how many folks get involved. Iran for example is a two hit nation, one on Teheran and one on Bandar Abbas. End of discussion. Iran’s day in the saddle is about over when its proxies get their lunch handed to them by Israel.
Notice that the Israelis seem to have followed the USA lead.
Declare your independence then fight your war to enforce its tenets.
BTW, Arab rights were include in the Declaration.
Also, the Arabs drafted their own Declaration of Independence. Will it be fulfilled, the two nation solution? Not as long as Iran is around to muddy the situation.
The core of the issue is land theft, John.
It will never be resolved through a two-state solution, because the cardinal sin has never been corrected.
Much as with Covid, you are duped by the dupers and their duping details. The details are there to hide the truth.
@ Night Owl:
Pretty much every nation in the world exists through land theft. Maybe it’s a sin–or maybe not. Trying to interpose ideas and arguments about “right and wrong” and “legal and illegal” just obfuscates the real nature of the dispute: It’s a territorial war between two groups of people who both want the same territory. What is this? The gorillianth? The number of times this has happened on earth must be up to about a gorillion by now.
All the moralizing about what’s “right” and what’s “legal” is intended to make us “like” one team versus the other. If I even knew them–which I don’t–I would probably not “like” either one of them. And if I did kind of like one side a bit more than the other, I’d doubt if I’d be interested in getting a bloody nose over it.
You are not telling me anything new in the first sentence.
The reality is that the conflict is driven by the original sin, which was actually committed by outside forces.
It will end when Isreal no receives globocap backing or when the nations by which it is surrounded simply destroy it.
There is no other path forward. It is another Ukraine.
@ Night Owl:
I suspect the day will soon dawn when Israel receives no globocap backing. The West is bankrupt. Ergo, over the long term (ten years or so), Israel is toast.
Spuds, why did you demand that we not talk of the Israel/Palastine conflict while you do?
Hypocrite. Reverser.
Night Owl may be right in this. Some of them have publicly expressed their deep displeasure with Israel for holding back World Government. The Israeli Elite may well accept the Judgement of their Superiors on the Pyramid – many of whom are Jews of course. But at that level, it doesn’t seem to matter any more, the Protocols notwithstanding.
When asked about Israel’s long terms prospects, Nixon shook his head and gave a thumb’s down.
The Protocols weren’t wrong – but rather a partial glimpse from a high tier but not the Capstone.
If you would know, you must rise up in our own Pyramid and visit your own “capstone” or Eye.
I agree, Anthea.
Let’s see. NO.
The original tribes of Canaan were deposed by the Philistines et al.
The Philistines et al were deposed by the Hebrews after long warfare by orders of God to Moses.
The Hebrews were deposed first by Assyria, then Babylon, then Persia, who finally let them return to Judea.
Then Alexander took the area for the Macedonian empire.
Then the Romans deposed the Ptolemy control from Egypt.
Then the Romans gave it to Herod then took it away from him under Tiberius.
Then the Romans crushed the zealots in 70 AD, sacked the Temple gold to finance the building of the Colosseum, a fact from a Rome tour. The Diaspora took place planting Christians and Jews throughout the Empire.
Note that from the Persian return, the Jews occupied the area known today as Israel. They were there for 5 thousand years with the exception of the Babylonian exile. Even Persia recognized their right to Canaan and allowed them to return and assisted them to rebuild the Temple.
After the Romans left, the area became a mixture of folks. Arabs, Jews, Christians, ex-Romans, Egyptians. Then the Europeans got their act together and decided to take the Holy Land for Christianity. For a while, it did.
Saladin entered the fray and provided the necessary leadership to throw the Europeans out. Next thing you know, Islam is knocking at the door of France. In the meantime, Palestine became primarily Muslim for hundreds of years. Consolidation begat the Ottoman Empire.
Then those darned Europeans discovered oil in the surrounding lands. Then those darned Europeans fought WW1, and the Ottoman Empire went away. Then those darned Brits came in in 1917 and made a mandate to control Palestine. They dropped the idea of a two state Israel with their darned Balfour which is still with us.
The Jews took control of their portion of the Partition resolution passed by the UN in 1947. Israel was under Jewish control after May 1948.
Okay, after all that, who exactly had their land stolen away? And who should get it today in a perfect world?
No worry though, the Jews have been promised that land by God since Abram and Moses and will kick the shit out of anyone trying to take it back today. I am actually shocked that Israel has not told the anti-Semitic world to kiss their butts and taken away the remainder of “Old Israel”.
They have the means to make an ash tray out of Arab Middle East and those Arabs know it along with the major powers. That is why all the wars are proxy for the majors.
AND as far as Covid, I do not pay any attention to someone who thinks that viruses do not exist and are a threat to humanity. Are you sure who the dupee is?
The Neo-Con view. Not Christian, but Zio-Christian.
They got it wrong before and they’re going to get it wrong again when they bow down to the Anti-Christ. Don’t be among them. Come out from among them.
See Tucker’s interview with MacGregor. Russia will not let them do what you just said.
“Then those darned Brits came in in 1917 and made a mandate to control Palestine. They dropped the idea of a two state Israel with their darned Balfour which is still with us.
The Jews took control of their portion of the Partition resolution passed by the UN in 1947. Israel was under Jewish control after May 1948.”
I have edited the post down to the relevant part for you, John.
As I said above, you get sucked in by word wizardy and details that have little to do with the actual issue.
One side had their land partitioned and they watched settlers slowly take more and more of it.
And this act was enabled by foreign entities with money and guns.
You think there is a solution that doesn’t end in death and destuction?
I don’t.
“They will never defeat Israel, no matter how many folks get involved. Iran for example is a two hit nation, one on Teheran and one on Bandar Abbas. End of discussion. Iran’s day in the saddle is about over when its proxies get their lunch handed to them by Israel”
John,
Uhhh…never say never. “They”, in their untold millions, cannot be denied.
Uh, yeah. Those untold millions have had their butts handed to them over and over by those feckless Israelis.
Never is adequate.
Those millions are split, with many supporting Israel’s right to exist.
John,
Yes, that is the history. But they are split until they aren’t. Logistics. Attrition. Numbers mean something in nature.
The Iranians have dug in very deeply. Israel won’t be able to take out their missile silos. The return blow will be terrible. And Russia is waiting in the wings to defend its ally, Iran.
Iran has stood by them in the Ukraine war. Russia will stand by Iran now.
Save your breath, and your index finger, with your silly “Hear goes.”
” They will never defeat Israel ”
Then Israel doesn’t need funding.
@ KesaAnna:
Israel in in a little bit of a pickle. Its continued existence depends entirely on US support, to the tune of billions of dollars a year–as well as on US military might. The latter is shot to hell, and the dollar is well on the way to being shot to hell.
If for some reason I were inclined to side with Israel, in their land dispute with the previous occupants of the region, I would hope that they have been thinking ahead–figuring out where they are going to go, when Israel no longer exists. Which probably is not all that far in the future; maybe about ten years. Besides the US, there is no other Western nation that has either the money or the military power to prop them up indefinitely, nor do I think there’s any non-Western nation that has the slightest desire to do so.
Israel is staring down the barrel of another diaspora, which is inevitable with the collapse of the US as a world power. Maybe there is something to all that talk you hear about them wanting to establish themselves in now-depopulated Ukraine, AKA “Khazaria.” I can’t see that location being a particularly happy–or successful–choice, either. Who’s going to indefinitely support and defend them there?
Yes Khazaria and Patagonia.
They should have taken Madagascar. The would have make short work of the Malagasy, but they are an isolated people, part Black and part Malayan, really unique unto themselves. Not really part of Africa despite its proximity. The world would have never known or cared to know.
Perhaps they could have given them reservations in desert areas or something. Like what we did anent the Indians.
Khazaria? The ridiculous “Nazis” there might finally come to their senses and oppose them.
It’s the JQ Redux.
Unfortunately, the Zionists and diaspora fifth column have made sure the hate thermometer reading is higher than ever.
Okay, they probably do not need it anyway to keep control of Israel. However, The West will finance Israel to keep a balance in the region. The on-coming war between the WEF West and the BRICS++ group will ensure Israel’s survival.
” I guess if you think that stepping over bodies of the homeless on the streets is healthy, OK. ”
Depends on what the alternative is. I have noticed that yesterdays mental hospitals are todays haunted houses . A coincidence ? I think not . Unless it is helping millionaires and billionaires, ” help ” often takes the form of the sadistically punitive.
I’m guessing , but my guess is many homeless people would rather be homeless than recieve that kind of help.
” If children shooting each other on city streets is healthy, OK. ”
Long story , but I think gun violence in America is grossly exaggerated. Ever heard of fear porn ?
” If children being told from toddlerhood that they might be in the “wrong body”, for which they need drugs and mutilating surgery, is healthy, OK. ”
It is my certain conviction that all of that started with the premise that the state should run families , not families should run families.
Once that premise was adopted , it was only a question of time before the state would begin meddling in your family in ways you won’t like. Not a question of “if ” or “whether ” , but only a question of when.
” If entire high school classes graduating without being able to read, write, or do arithmetic, is healthy, OK. ”
See immediately above. It comes as a surprise that it turns out that politicians, or your plain enemies , don’t give a shit about your kids ?
” If the criminal justice system being used to prosecute political opponents, but not criminals, is healthy, OK. ”
The way I hear it , 21% of the incarcerated population world – wide belongs to one country.
And the country isn’t North Korea.
As I said just recently , if the United States doesn’t go broke fighting everyone , it may go broke anyway locking everyone up.
I suppose Jarek should shut up about you being a Communist. I would think that a Communist would know better than most that the difference between political prisoner and criminal is a matter of a definition that is easily enough re – written.
Of course you could pretty much say that as well about any CFN regular ; If you don’t suspect that you are on an FBI shit list , then what the fuck are you worried about / complaining about ?
” If corporations and the government conspire to force people to take experimental drugs without their consent is healthy, OK ”
These days the lions share of people I hang out with are retirees , so hardly a representative example.
But certainly in that group most of the vaxes were clearly voluntary.
And in a group that , generally , was more affluent and better educated.
Maybe Enlightenment psychology turns out to have been full of shit ?
* I would think that a Communist would know better than most that the difference between political prisoner and criminal is a matter of a definition that is easily enough re – written.
Of course I would also think that a National Socialist in America would know better than most that the difference between political prisoner and criminal is a matter of a definition that is easily enough re – written.
My guess is nobody misses Disaffected more than me.
Disaffected seemed to be the only person here I didn’t mystify ,
and the only person here who didn’t puzzle me.
* Maybe Enlightenment psychology turns out to have been full of shit ?
i.e . I try to avoid affluent people from happy , supportive families , because in my opinion , generally , such people are so fucking stupid they are dangerous.
He’s a realist lacking all idealism. Always laughing at the world as it is all the more to hide his despair.
A very droll fellow. Likeable and amusing. Women love to a laugh after all! So of course you liked him. You’re like him but for your closeted Catholicism.
” Shit list? A fan of multi-banees Mr. Hogger and Mr. Sherman are you? ”
My suspicion is that Mr. Sherman is a troll .
As for OG , I think he means well , which counts for a lot in my book.
Unfortunately I disagree with about 90% of what he argues.
Maybe not good ?
” What an odd choice of words. ”
If you say so . ( not argument. Not sarcasm )
” I was referring to our Malthusian friend. Of course he thinks everyone is a monster. ”
Actually that is why I wondered. That is what I think , too.
Doctrine of Original Sin , you know.
I can’t speak for others , but in my case , ” everybody is a monster ( including me ) ”
means I think I’m not one bit better than you are.
It means I’m not going to come up with all sorts of complicated reasons why I should get all the gravy , and you should get bugs.
It means that as much as I loathe and despise police , I’m not going to pretend that Elysianfield possessing an MG – 34 scares and concerns poor little Kesa.
If Joe Biden can be trusted with nuclear weapons , what is this gun control bullshit ?
that I should get to make the laws , not you ,
that I should get all your money to spend as I see fit ,
etc , etc , etc .
At the risk of sounding terribly self – flattering , it seems to me that my view that all are monsters is a pretty good deal for you.
On the subject of population control I think you and I agree ?
All previous attempts at population control ended in one of three ways ;
— totalitarianism
— genocide
— it was the group deemed superior that died out.
I think I would do better to base policy on past track record , rather than on speculative wishful – thinking.
I often argue for population control because on a simplistic level it is the most rational and central solution to so many human problems…political, environmental, economic and historical.
Problem with population control as an actual, real-life solution is… it doesn’t account for people being monsters. It assumes a pretty utopian view of human beings’ ability to operate collectively and rationally. So my support for it is not totally fake, but more theoretical and less real.
Without population-control, I don’t see any ultimate outcome to current trajectories that is not chaotic and gruesome (though often, but not always, slow and incremental in human-time). But pressed, I will say gruesome chaos is probably the real, natural and right solution to current human situations, not any population-control program.
Point being, if someone opposes population-control programs, I hope they are in favor of the alternative, gruesome chaos… as I am.
Jesus said if your neighbor takes something of yours, give him your coat also.
The answer to social inequality, share the earth.
However, what happens when there is not enough coats to go around or wealth to support all.
Gruesome chaos? Yep, and lots of technology advancement and War. I guess when God fabricated Man as the supreme predator, the only way to control his population is cannibalism of sorts, AKA war.
Nothing implicitly wrong with predation, but we should start developing our reasoning skills to the level of our predation skills, if it’s not already way too late.
Yes, I would have to agree with that.
Dis talked about getting closer with Hispanics. They’re the winners, at least where he is. A practical choice for a member of a defeated and dying race.
They like to laugh too. Everyone likes a comedian. Comedian or Court Jester? Respect or no Respect? Maybe it depends on how the King feels. Lear loved his fool. So you wouldn’t want to disrespect that fool. In any case, quite a long way from being happy under one’s own fig tree, a little king a la the Bible and Huey Long.
A fool had to be witty, wise, or flattering (typically the first two, in Shakespeare’s plays). He had to be on his toes, otherwise the King 86ed him. Hence, the tears behind the smiling mask.
“This is one of the most important speeches of our time. 30min straight, no notes. That’s because James has dedicated his life to understanding the origins and interworkings of this, and how to convey. The way he describes the blueprint here is masterful.”
https://twitter.com/Theo_TJ_Jordan/status/1700848853031731415
I agree. A must-watch speech for those trying to understand the merging of socialism/marxism and corpratism that has brought us the New Normal via Corona and the WEF/UN-backed climate ruse for societal transformation.
Many have trouble understanding what wokeism truly is and why it seems to be merged with corporate power. This segment is really concise and digestible for even the most non-political mind.
🙂
Whoo-boy, serious “longtime fratboy trying hard to get smart now even though it’s already far too late” vibes.
If you don’t like opposition to your slavery-based (capitalist) system, and don’t like opportunist exploiters of that opposition (cynical globocap),
what you need is either 1) an ever bigger stick to beat the slaves with, or 2) a better alternative to the current slave-system than the opposition has.
James T has neither, which is why he presents as impotent. Globocap at least makes bank..
Admit it, he did an excellent job summing things up for the uninformed.
The gamma-male vibes are strong here.
Are these “uninformed” the other frat boys?
Just admit it, you didn’t even listen to more than a minute.
The speech was excellent, and it tied together a lot of topics that most people see as seperate issues.
Much as I have said for a few years. The strands are meant to intertwine in the minds of most of the cud-chwers only when the digital-plantation trap springs.
When it is too late. I realize you could care less about keeping humanity out of digital slavery, but not all of us hate people.
I listened to over half the speech.
Also, I have zero desire for digital enslavement of mankind, and actually think your (and those like you) failure to recognize energy, environmental and population-density problems is propelling us directly TOWARD that enslavement.
But I do care about energy issues, Gus.
I said this years ago, but I would put my energy bills and environmental practices up against yours any day.
What I don’t care for is people who make outlandish claims they cannot back, such as the earth being at “carrying capacity”–again, a number you yourself cannot even define–but then run off when asked to provide proof.
And claims like this require a lot of proof. There is also your promotion of population reduction, which is morally repugnant, but hey, we have been there and done that.
😀
The claims, and moral quandries, are only outlandish when you’ve never encountered them before, and refuse to do so now.
quandaries
The problem of course is the ’88-Limbaugh-brand “industrial capitalism is actually a wonderful miracle for everybody” basis for the entire position.
A class (or race) war to seize the means of production was never going to solve anything—because the means and systems of production were themselves the problem all along.
“A class (or race) war to seize the means of production was never going to solve anything—because the means and systems of production were themselves the problem all along.” — Gus
I find it puzzling that you say you listened to over half the presentation, because Lindsay (always on point, always brilliant) specifically mentions in the 1st half that economic Marxism has evolved to fit changing conditions. Because capitalism was so successful, Marxism couldn’t stir up the workers any longer because the latter were so much more well off than they used to be. So leftist leaders had to shift to stirring up the young in universities. The link to Mao is obvious and fitting, in all its ramifications.
Economic Marxism has become cultural Marxism. Anyone with eyes and ears knows this. Chrissakes, just look at the ‘thought leaders’ of the Woke. They all make six figures, so who’s the capitalist mouthpiece? Lindsay and his ilk are constantly sticking their necks out at the risk of job displacement and termination and professional ostracization, while the Woke keep their heads down and continue to cash their checks for condemning the system that allows them power and money. Shameful and despicable. If they had any consistency, any alignment of their stated morals with their way of life, they’d quit their ‘bourgeois’ careers (tenured, perks galore, long holidays, social cachet) and live amongst the supposed victims they pretend to support. But of course it’s all sanctimony.
It always reminds me of the old joke: the last time Marxists were happy was in October 1929 — for perhaps a day or two.
“Anyone with eyes and ears knows this.”
Exactly. This speech is the most rudimentary, banal stuff that everyone already knows.
It’s easy and lazy to poke holes in the opposition. What’s a softer target than Marxism?
The reason the left is having any social success is the right is so ideologically bankrupt.
“Because capitalism was so successful,”
Here we go, more Limbaugh vintage 1988.
This encapsulates the Right’s ideological bankruptcy. Criticizing modern Marxism for ideological bankruptcy is the absolute pot-&-kettle routine.
““Anyone with eyes and ears knows this.”
Exactly. This speech is the most rudimentary, banal stuff that everyone already knows.” — Gus
My comment about “anyone” was meant to be taken facetiously. Apparently there are still about 50% of the population that doesn’t know this. So it needs to be stated, and it needs the context, history, psychological impetus, and overarching who’s-implementing-and-formulating-it explanation that Lindsay so concisely gives.
“It’s easy and lazy to poke holes in the opposition. What’s a softer target than Marxism?” — Gus
“Easy and lazy”? Then why the hell is hardly anyone else doing it? Again, Lindsay sticks his neck out, and he provides historical precedent to this.
Even most of the people who are onboard that the Woke ideology and pedagogy is either silly or wicked don’t realize the pre-emptive argumentation and end-goal of Wokeism. They think it’s just some university petulance that’ll go away when the universities lose economic power. I used to think that, too, but this issue isn’t going away any time soon, in fact will continue to get worse. And how many others are tying it into the WEF?
You seem very complacent about this, Gus.
“The reason the left is having any social success is the right is so ideologically bankrupt.” — Gus
This transcends Left-Right politics. I thought most on this board knew not to divide the larger issues we’re always talking about into this reductionist binary. The Left, as well, are getting cancelled because they’re not Woke enough. You might have glossed over, or missed, the salient point Lindsay made about Whites being attacked just for who they are, not just their views. So “points of view”, however passionately held, don’t matter to the Woke authoritarians. You’re White? You’re guilty. Please pay attention.
As for the Right (to be more precise, in their terms, Christian ‘cisnormative’, patriarchal ‘far-Right’ White), sure they could improve the situation, but excuse me if I cut them some slack for just trying to deal with the bullshit on a daily basis. If you want to come down with both barrels, focus on the Left’s craven willingness to go along with their own kind, to keep quiet just to prolong their own hides for a month or two longer.
““Because capitalism was so successful,”
Here we go, more Limbaugh vintage 1988.” — Gus
“Successful” here is an objective statement. However you feel about money, success, freedom, power, influence, the fact is that the workers of Marx’s glorious working-class haven’t been bitching about breaking the production machinery of their cruel overlords for almost 100 years. They’ve been quite happy making and spending that money, raising families, going on weekend car getaways, etc. This isn’t about your take on energy and stewardship, it’s about human nature and how we in the West define success.
Humans will always want more — energy, money, power. People using less energy, having fewer kids, polluting less, etc, will only happen when the power-down is a simple EROEI and population equation. Jevons paradox rules, whether 2,000 years ago, now, or in the future.
You’re a smart guy, Soul. To me this is all wasting time in polarized political diversion. I wish people who knew enough would stay focused on energy issues. Lindsay doesn’t know enough, and that’s my issue here.
There are many avenues that intersect. This is certainly one of them. They’re all important.
The gamma-male vibes are strong here.
Straight to the ad homs because Spuds argues like a little girl.
“Either agree with me or you are a joke. A or B.”
A gamma male is described as intelligent, romantic, and empathetic. While he has some femininte traits, he has difficulty understanding and dating women. Unlike alphas, gammas avoid conflict at all costs and care deeply about what other people think of them. They lack the leadership skills and confidence to be on top.
Methinks she doth project too much.
National Socialism taught this long ago. Capitalism/Communism are one system, with Socialism as the uneasy mid-point.
The Elite don’t need the facade any more, are tired of it, and wish to rule as the Capitalist Lords that they are. Everyone else will live in the commons as a commoner or communist, owning nothing and being happy.
Why does Night Owl cling to this immoral system? Why does he not join the resurgent German Right? If National Socialism is too much for him, let him rest in the way station of Fascism.
I support AFD, actually.
The rest of your post is disingenous drivel, but no point in discussing. Just classic Jarek tactics.
So you repudiate your previous belief in Turkish Germans?
Jarek one-ups users of the classic CFN straw man with the nebulous straw man.
Impressive.
I listened to it a few months ago; I thought is was quite brilliant.
But now I have forgotten the details.
I’ll have to listen/watch again.
It is difficult to put these issues into a concise and coherent message that the average Joe would listen to without becoming distracted or offended at the idea that you might know something he doesn’t.
Impressive stuff.
In the news, “Guided missile cruiser USS Carney uses SM-2 and Sea Sparrow missiles to takes out Yemeni drones headed north towards Israel.”
Translation: “US taxpayers use missiles at $2+ million apiece to shoot down cheap drones headed no where.”
Sounds like a headline out of Afghanistan. US military uses $250,000 Hellfire missiles to destroy a 20 YO beat to shit Tacoma with an RPG in the back.
Reminds me of when I had a pistol stuck behind my ear down in south Florida. “Gimme yo’ wallet.” Only this time the MIC is holding the pistol.
Consider for a moment that we are witnessing the oncoming split between the WEF West and BRICS++ and their on coming alliance with the ME Arab states.
Between the withholding of Russian fossil fuels and the potential withholding of BRICS++ oil, the Europeans might be in a real pickle.
Ukraine is the current focal point for Europe, they are one cold winter way from discarding Ukraine.
Now the ME component of the oil threat,
Israel. The West has no choice but to back Israel. THe millions and millions of anti- Israel folks will disappear overnite when oil is withheld.
The loser here is Europe when Israel is destroyed. It will not happen.
According to the internet, a military drone’s range can be up to 200 km.
Also according to the internet, the distance between Yemen and Israel is 2,200 kim.
Also seen on the internet, the USS Carney on fire.
I don’t believe their story, is my point.
Great piece for sure. Seems like you are setting us up for the inevitable turn against Israel.
My prediction is before Thanksgiving.
It is prophesied that the entire world will turn against Israel.
It can’t. The West will back Israel into Armageddon to protect its one base in the MIddle East.
Do you really think the West will support a group of nutty Islams that cannot even stop fighting amongst themselves?
Backing Israel seems like a hopelessly indirect way to acquire oil. How does it even acquire it? I guess the threat of Israeli expansionism is a stick of some kind, perhaps even at a cheap price for the U.S… Why does the ME even sell the oil at all? Irrational greed.
We’re (the world is) “addicted to oil” (most intelligent thing Bush II ever uttered). The longer addictions are tolerated, the uglier the endgame.
Well, there is a lot of oil and natural gas under the ground in the West Bank an off the coast of Gaza.
I think I posted info about this up-thread.
Here is a different source (excerpt):
“Energy
We cannot understand conflicts in Israel/Palestine, and the Middle East more broadly, without attending to the geopolitics of energy. Israel is a growing economy—its GDP expanded by 8.6% in 2021. Much of this growth is fueled by natural gas and oil—and sizeable reservoirs of these resources have been discovered in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. The Israeli government, however, prevents Palestinians from exploiting this wealth. This breeds both poverty and animosity among the Palestinians. To highlight one statistic: While the per-capita GDP of Israel is $42,100, that of Gaza is only $5,600. Israel’s extractive-based economic growth—and its refusal to redistribute the fruits of that growth to the Palestinian territories which enabled it—thus contributes to the political tensions of the region. . . . ”
httpX://steadystate.org/the-crisis-in-the-middle-east-is-a-crisis-of-growth/?blm_aid=127314
Actually, I don’t think the crisis is a crisis of growth.
It is a crisis of greed and fanatical Zionism.
Read the info in the above article about water, sewage, raw sewage going into the Med—because of Israel’s theft of Pal. water. Most of the water used in Zionistan is stolen.
Yes, I remember your post. I’m sure Gaza’s resource ARE at least a greaser of the Zionist wheels.
I was thinking about U.S. motivations for Israel-backing in terms of influence over oil in the greater region.. whether claims along that line are legitimate.
I believe in the Word of God, John, and have no doubt that His Word will be fulfilled to every last syllable.
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Imagine if the world was ever told the truth. 9/11, AIPAC/ADL, 10/7, et al. Once people realize what these Zionists have done to us all for their power and riches, yes, I really do think that the entire world will turn against Israel.
Was it your Yahweh creature that told you Drumpf will be re-instated by March 5th, 2024? How will you cope with the loss of faith when March 6th rolls around?
I am puzzled about this blog’s response to Israel, you sound like the Wokesters holding protests all over.
Twice a week, when I read JHK, I see almost unanimity in the idea that the USA needs to take firm control of its destiny and kick butt when necessary.
Why so much derision when a strong Israel will not put up with ME BS?
Because Israel wages war by deception.
This entire mess was a CIA/MI6/Mossad black op.
That’s why.
Baloney, The Arabs have attacked Israel first in every war that has been fought over there. The entire Arab league in 1948, Egypt and Syria, Jordan. Israel is still there. And all the Black Ops in the world will not offset boots on the ground where Israel kicks butt. Israelis are willing to die to protect their homeland, are Americans? Or Arabs? Or Persians?
How the hell would you feel if Cuba continuously lobbed missiles into the Southeast because the US pursued expansion to the Pacific? Or better, Mexico.
Huh? The Rothschilds did the first attacking. We all know that.
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Do you really think that Hamas created fifteen (15) different holes big enough for terrorists on dirtbikes in the most secure and surveilled wall on earth while gaggles of paragliders gently floated over it – all completely undetected?
Give your head a shake, John. That is completely ridiculous. We are obviously being lied to once again. D’uh!
Did you even watch what Major Jeffrey Prather had to say?
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You were probably all hung-ho to invade Iraq to stop their WMDs 20 years ago.
Seems Amerika has begun a rather sharp life expectancy decline compared with other rich/developed nations (NYT, 10/24/23).
Increase in poor, unhealthy immigrants?
The shift to an older demographic plus effects of the vax?
Both?
Both and more. Stress, suicide by men, suicide by cat ladies who can’t find men, poor food, Blacks in food deserts created by their own criminality, White kids dying from fentanyl.
Corn syrup-induced obesity, shitty antidepressant overuse, and a general social malaise.
JohnAZ, the immigrants are the healthy, young, and vigorous ones.
oops. Sorry – tom clarke.
@Spuds
You should invest your money in gold. I hear it is the only way to survive the “coming collapse.”
Who told you that? I’m the Au & Ag ring-leader here at CFN and the only time that I’ve seen such nonsense here is from you, little girl.
The Hogger can help you melt it it down and sustain yourself for a week or two.
I have no idea how to successfully melt down 1-ounce gold coins to transform that perfect store of wealth into pocket change because doing so would be stupid, you shameless strawman-builder.
Fungible 1-ounce gold coins for wealth storage. Fungible 1-ounce silver coins for currency. Beans, bullets, bullion and bible. That’s one’s best bet at surviving the “coming collapse.” Zero melting required (notwithstanding your shameless and moronic strawmen).
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I have asked that we move on from your red-herring strawmen about melting perfectly fungible coins to make change but you keep presenting it over and over again like it is my argument even though I have repeatedly said that that would be unnecessary and stupid.
You have no shame while you attempt to bully your way to victory – exactly like a 9 y.o. girl.
Yes, OG. He has no shame and zero originality.
For instance, The Nightie constantly refers to “The Manchurian Candidate” from the middle months of 2016, prior to Drumpf’s accidental election.
But he implied (and still does imply, even today) that OTHER people made comments referring to this when in fact, he was the only one to throw the word into the conversation. Typical.
It came directly from you, Majella.
Just like the time you told us Trump told you to drink bleach.
It seems to me that we’re trying to accommodate two sets of beliefs that can’t be reconciled. One is based on historical fact, and the other is arbitrary and subjective.
It’s a fact that, for most of human history, people simply took what they wanted in terms of land and resources, and unapologetically either slaughtered or enslaved those from whom it was taken. They believed in their right to do so because they were stronger. If you couldn’t protect your land, your people, you were weak and that was too bad for you; nothing personal. I’m not endorsing this, merely taking note of it. To misquote Philip K. Dick, reality is that which is still there no matter how much you dislike it.
Now it appears we’re trying to draw a line and proclaiming that, after a given date, we were sufficiently enlightened to know that what we were doing was wrong and that, therefore, whatever justification there once was is now gone. Consequently, we must be held accountable for both our actions now and those of our ancestors who were living at the time we’ve arbitrarily chosen to draw the line. Before X you were a savage and knew no better; after X, no more excuses for you or those who come after you. I see most people accepting this idea, the only difference being where, when, and for whom the line is drawn.
Yet human nature is unchanging, and there’s no evidence whatsoever that people, in general, have changed in how they go about dealing with each other and apportioning the world’s resources. We have simply become more sophisticated and duplicitous in disguising our motives and methods. Scratch the surface and you’ll find that almost everyone believes in their right to take what they want from those who can’t fight back.
Given what’s happening now, it’s certain that the world will look very different twenty years from now. In spite of our lip service to higher ideals, and imaginings of ourselves as more enlightened than our forebears, it’s likely the winners (at least, for the foreseeable future) will be those who proceed as if this entirely subjective line did not exist, even as an imaginary line. They’ll protect what they have by any means, and will attempt to take what they need (also by any means) from anyone too weak to protect themselves.
I think it would be wise, as we make our plans, to take into account that all such fundamentally imaginary lines will disappear, along with the leisure and intellectual space that gave rise to them. It’s likely that we will revert to the basics of our essentially tribal human nature. Not saying I care for this prospect in the least, but there it is.
If humans fall under the same sorts of diversity and evolutionary dynamics as any other creature on the planet, they are far from unchanging despite what some humans might swear up and down, perhaps like you, Rowdypiglet.
If humans fall under the same sorts of evolutionary dynamics as any other creature on the planet, then it stands to reason that at least some will adopt different survival strategies, some that work brilliantly, some that work so-so, and some that crash and burn.
Naturally, not all creatures, including humans or some of them, will successfully figure it out before they become a mere ‘statistic’ in the long line of extinctions.
@Zazelle, Let me clarify. Obviously, we do evolve. I don’t think we are yet anywhere near the point where it’s more than skin deep. We have a veneer of civilisation, and for a few it’s not merely on the surface. For most, however, when we’re threatened (or believe ourselves to be) we revert readily to earlier forms of behavior and fall back somewhat toward the old lizard brain. We’ve seen this demonstrated recently in the response to Covid fear- mongering.
My point really was that the idea of drawing an arbitrary line after which we’ve decided to hold ourselves or our ancestors responsible for actions that we’ve only recently abjured is . . . strange and unrealistic.
Understood.
Yes.
There’s a difference though between taking what you actually need, and taking what you simply want or think you want. Not only is it on you to defend yourself and your territory, it’s also on you to use any acquired territory well and not idiotically.
Of all the territory “acquired” at one level or another during European colonial expansion, how much was NOT used idiotically, more for shortsighted wants.. than for needs and longterm stability? Any?
” . . . it’s also on you to use any acquired territory well and not idiotically.”
Why? It would be nice if humans did this, and occasionally they do, but most act in accordance with their natures. If the territory in question was acquired by brute force, those who did so may not suddenly become thoughtful and reasoned in their use of it.
Why? Only because if you don’t, there will usually be a consequence to it.
Case in point… Europe today is inviting a foreign invasion onto its already crowded homelands. These events are directly traceable to those campaigns of shortsighted global profiteering. Yeah, it could be done, and was. Was it a good idea? You decide. You decide, would-be future profiteer…
Or should wiser individuals squash simpleminded profiteer impulses in their tribes before they threaten the entire tribe’s future?
I don’t think White Europeans are “inviting” these POCs. That decision was made by Talmudically-minded persons in high places.
There is nothing profitable about polluting the native White population with incompatible immigrants. At best there is a massive transfer of stolen wealth via government taxation to those who are organizing this evil.
Third World immigration, in the modern Zionist sense, is an act of war against Whites with the explicit purpose of subduing us to the Jews who call themselves gods and the rest of us as cattle, insects, and slaves.
From where does these usurpers and interlopers get their authority and power? The Talmud and modern Frankfurt School ideology where Whites must be made to pay for the sins of the Jews. Whites are the ritual scapegoats that the Torah (Leviticus 16:1-34) prescribes to take away the sins of the Tribe. The Tribe’s victims in the 3rd World are being piled into White countries and we shall be punished instead.
As long as we are poisoned by a Judaized Christianity, this abuse will continue. Stuff like this cause me to renounce Christianity and its Jewish roots. Emperor Julian of the Late Roman Empire was right.
All the commoners have already long-since sold their souls to the profiteers… for a cut of the profiteering (Esau-style, you might say).
@gustafson, Of course there are consequences. I wasn’t advocating for misusing land, however it’s acquired. I was merely saying that it’s frequently what people actually do. And since they do it, there’s no point in pretending otherwise. Can wiser people prevail? Sometimes. But it does no good to assume that will be the case. It seems to me that brute force, especially if the numbers are really high, trumps intelligence and wisdom fairly frequently. I don’t like it, but – again – reality doesn’t seem to care about what I like.
@Rowdy
True, true. Shortsighted might often prevails.
I think I was reading your first post as, “moral condemnation of land-grabbing is arbitrary and artificial,” which may not be exactly what you were saying.
The argument I want to make is that morally, the standard should be not that any group has some “firs-come-first serve,” uncontestable “right” to land, but that every territory-owning group be morally judged by what the outcome of their effect on that land ultimately is.
The moral “right” to land is whoever can possess it AND use it well.
All farming is of the Devil! Until you understand this, you will not understand Gustaph.
Not all, but most. Why? Most fundamentally, perhaps, because it is boring. The labor saps the mind, and leaves you with 1) more food than you need, 2) a monotonous, unchanging set of never-threatening surroundings. It’s a perfect, permanent psycho-environmental recipe for debauchery of all kinds, including excessive, fertile, procreative fucking.
This is why no amount of National Socialism can fix an industrial/agriculturalist economic setup. People will get bored to tears, and fuck, and war, and overplow, and eventually, as if following an unstoppable, gravity-like force, tear it all down again, or run it into the ground against all shallow reason but perfectly in-line with the deepest pycho-spiritual imperatives (deep reason).
Another person who never actually worked in commercial agriculture I presume ?
Or maybe you did .
There ARE parts of Mein Kampf I heartily and unreservedly endorse ,
like where Hitler says , paraphrasing ,
anyone who thinks they know something about the ghetto because they took a VOLUNTARY trip to the ghetto is totally full of shit.
Kesa, I don’t know if you’re calling me or Jarek out here, but it could probably work both ways, haha.
“The labor saps the mind, and leaves you with 1) more food than you need, 2) a monotonous, unchanging set of never-threatening surroundings. It’s a perfect, permanent psycho-environmental recipe for debauchery of all kinds, including excessive, fertile, procreative fucking.”
They will do the same thing when resources are scarce and times are tough.
I know which I’d prefer. Farming saps the mind too when you do it long enough, assuming you are even good enough to do it long enough for that to happen. And as far as most of your debauchery, etc., goes, self-control goes a long way.
What a dismal outlook you have. One wonders how we even got out of the Dark Ages.
Maybe you haven’t noticed but we never really did emerge from the Dark Ages. Some say this age is the darkest yet.
Ok, Layla. In another life, select to return to the Dark Ages and let me know how long you live and how your experience is.
It wasn’t an argument against your assertion. More of a suggestion that it has morphed into something different and yet fundamentally the same. The inquisitions then and now are equally brutal. Though in sheer numbers there are more available victims today.
Well, let me say that I think that this is not the darkest age yet. A few tours of medieval European castle torture chambers might convince you of that.
That said, I would also emphasise “yet.”
Humble sidenote: The Dark Ages were an agricultural-era phenomenon….
That I fear is definitely the case!
@ gustafson:
I think large-scale corporate farming of row crops for government subsidies is probably quite boring. (Most work, when you work for others and have no self-direction, is both boring and degrading.)
Real farming is endlessly fascinating. (I wish Rulo would weigh in about this.) There is always more to learn. There are endless techniques to master, endless things to know about everything from tomato varieties to the lowly spud. The history of vegetables, fruits, grains, and, and fruit trees is very rich.
Did you know, for example, that crabgrass was brought to America on purpose, as a short-season grain crop? That Kansas wheat came originally from Russia? Did you know that today’s gorgeous lisianthus was developed by Japanese breeders from a Texas wildflower of the Eustoma species? Did you know that the Lilium regale (aka “Black Dragon Lily”) is a Chinese wildflower. Did you know that apple trees can only be reproduced by grafting and will not come true from seed? This means that some apple varieties have only been preserved by human effort, for hundreds of years. There is even one apple variety, the Lady Apple, that some claim has been preserved for 2000 years–by grafting.
The lore of cultivated plants is endless. You should have a look at the J.L. Hudson catalog online. (That guy knows everything.)
I am less familiar with animal husbandry–or actually not at all–but this plays a key role in regenerative agriculture and land reclamation. Is it boring to help deliver baby lambs and goats? Is it boring to see your big old dog devotedly watch over over the babies–often over Mama’s objections.
I don’t know, but it seems to me that a person who is not in love with plants and animals is not quite right in the head.
Yay! I see that my use of HTML worked on the italics!
I think that when food is abundant, and life is sweet, people get along with each other, obey the rules, and share.
But when the resources run out, they fight.
I noticed this even on a micro level in myself, when I used to get dinner in the cafeteria at work.
I would stand in line and decide what I wanted to eat, and wait patiently for my turn.
But when what I wanted was limited in quantity, and there were more people in front of me in line than there was food, I would get antsy, even hostile to anyone that took some of my desired food.
And now there are 8 billion plus people on the planet, almost all sustained by fossil fueled agribusiness.
And the food and water fights have already started. It’s only going to get worse.
Remember when there was much mirth about the Somali “pirates”?
It turned out that they were coastal people who survived by fishing, as many coastal people do.
But France was dumping nuclear waste off their coast, and other countries were sending those fishing boats that vacuum up everything on the ocean floor.
The Somalis were seeing their dinner stolen and contaminated.
Were they really “pirates”?
I didn’t know that, about the Somalis.
Yes, once their dinner was stolen they became pirates. Your moralistic ideology gets you in your own way constantly.
One Queen’s pirate is another Queen’s “privateer” as was Sir Francis Drake.
That is why they told you toilet paper was scarce before they told you a killer virus was on the loose, Paula.
More intelligent people realize it is all a lie.
Why not run those Allah – humping camel jockies out of Nebraska ?
My suspicion is because playing tough with a faceless nobody on the other side of the Atlantic ocean is much less daunting a prospect than facing up to the 5,000 ton gorilla down the street.
Granted , admitting the Jan 6 folks are political prisoners is an incremental improvement.
But I can’t help thinking a heck of a lot evils around here could at least be seriously inconvenienced if a few more soccer moms would say ” fuck this bullshit ” and volunteer for prison.
It’s especially depressing given how your prisons are supposedly run by the good guys.
If that’s really true , how bad could it possibly be ?
I heard a formula the other day that I think summarises my view of things simply and briefly ;
If you can’t figure out what someone is doing , and why they are doing it , look at the outcome.
My guess is this bru – ha in Palastine isn’t meant to be won.
Like I don’t think the Ukraine war is meant to be won.
Like I don’t think the war on death — excuse me , Covid , ( best thing for my money CJ Hpkins ever wrote ) isn’t meant to be won.
Like I don’t think the war on terror is ever meant to won ,
Like I don’t think Prohibition is ever meant to be won.
I think it’s a kind of weird entertainment for people who aren’t homeless or in prison yet.
All movies , novels , comic books , etc , always have a moral to the story.
The moral of this particular piece of Kabuki Theatre is that if you aren’t homeless or in prison yet everything must be OK.
Of course the trouble is if you DO wind up homeless or in prison then the good folks in Washington aren’t going to give a fuck about your opinions any more , or whether you like them or not , endorse their system or not.
This guy is a shrink , so I DON’T vouch for him,
never the less he describes my assessment of that topic to a T ;
youtube.com/watch?v=jMqQBLZwRIE
Actually I base my conclusion not on Nazi concentration camps , but on operation Barbarossa.
I can’t prove it , but I think the Nazi Alfred Rosenberg , and the Soviet Officer Alexsandyr Solzhenitsyn , were right ;
If Hitler had entered Russia as a liberator the war would not have continued beyond the summer of 1942.
Everything I know about Operation Barbarossa leads me to the same conclusion , his goal was not winning.
The Russians were/are good fighters, absolutely ferocious in defense of their huge nation. They use the hugeness, falling back, burning their own fields and cities, luring the Enemy further in as they attack their supply lines and flanks – waiting for their Ally, General Winter to strike.
Specific to WW2: Massive financial and technical support from Uncle Samuel. Thus you are refuted, etc.
It couldn’t be that Nazi propaganda was actually correct that the Bolsheviks were the Mongols and Ghangis Khan reborn ,
and acting like a total fucking dick , who gives you the ” choice ” between being shot by these people , or those people ,
couldn’t have anything to do with it.
Another possibility is that Russians , like Americans , are total fucking morons when it comes to patriotism.
With a nebulous sentiment over ruling even the will to live.
On the other hand , I have never contradicted you when you said that capitalists bankrolled the Communists.
Near as I can determine , that is a simple fact.
As I have said before — though not recently — the entire Cold War was a fraud.
That very well could be. It seems like our betters prefer open-ended conflicts, engagement, intervention, etc. But is it just them? To avoid an unhappy ending perhaps it is better to have no ending at all?
” However, what happens when there is not enough coats to go around or wealth to support all. ”
— John Az
I would I suppose be more amenable to that argument if I saw it very often , but I don’t think I do.
Just a few random examples from last nights brief TV skimming ;
Guy was arguing some ancient aliens theory. In the course of the program he went from Switzerland , to Egypt , to North America , to South America. I lost count of the trips.
It occurred to me couldn’t he have made the argument just as well if he had shot the video in his backyard ?
So is it really about the argument , or the trips to Switzerland and Machu Piccu ?
But maybe that’s just me.
Then I saw a commercial featuring John Walsh.
Dare I say that it seems to me that he has done pretty well over his sons murder ?
Is it too uncharitable to ask what selling pills has to do with his son murdered 30 years ago ?
But maybe that’s just me.
The problem with me I suppose is I don’t trust liberals who are wearing the equivalent of my monthly income who want ME to share my piece of the pie which , I suspect , is not even equivalent to their shoe budget.
And the problem with me I suppose is that I don’t trust Right – wingers who tell me there is no free lunch —- except when they want something.
Getting back to this Hamas thing,
I certainly do not have Elysianfield’s expertise when it comes to weapons ,
but I’m pretty sure weapons cost a hell of a lot of fucking money.
So if they are claiming they are poor , selfless , salt of the earth altruists , I certainly fucking doubt that on that basis alone.
If you are really fucking worried about where your next meal is coming from , or really worried about where someone elses next meal is coming from ,
you don’t go out and buy a fucking AK – 47 or an RPG.
The premise is fucking absurd.
So, generally you are grappling with a lack of trust. A lack of trust results in fear. So are you therefore operating in a spirit of fear?
Could be.
On the other hand , to liberally paraphrase a line from the movie Easy Rider ;
It seems that when a lot of people are afraid , or claim they are afraid , they get busy killing people to prove how not afraid they are.
It seems to me that my position on the use of force ,
Military OR police ,
is decidely skeptical.
In brief ; you are wasting your money , and wasting your time.
That is , yes , ” Love everybody ” is fucking naive.
Unfortunately we HAVE arrived at a point where the technology of coercion is such that the cure is literally as bad or worse than the disease.
Like that ?
Don’t like that ?
Irrelevant.
The line I borrowed , at 1:00 .
See , most of my shit is NOT original.
youtube.com/watch?v=YyaUtnWr8Gw
* It seems to me that my position , consistently , on the use of force …
Must be why there is so much killing in the world all the time. Even when people have it made they live in a constant state of fear. Not so sure there is a solution to that.
Gee , good thing you – know – who isn’t around apparently ,
to claim I’m ranting ,
as if I could even begin to catch up with some posters in output.
How do you like my new outfit? 🙂
What ?
youtube.com/watch?v=a8tpWoStiw8
Could everybody quit changing usernames ?!
What did you supposedly get banned for ?
Why is everyone EXCEPT the Death – to – America girl getting banned ?
Love that movie . The shear relentless amount of profanity is awesome.
Lol. Yeah I probably will this time. I wasn’t banned. I guess i wasn’t bad enough – just yet lol. You see, I was ready to embrace personhood. Being an elemental is tough.
Thanks, I like all that pow pow 🙂
“Why is everyone EXCEPT the Death – to – America girl getting banned ?”
Perhaps you are our Scheherazade – you tell a good story and you’re allowed to live. 🙂
Israel civilians shot and KILLED by Israeli’s own forces during false flag Hamas attack, claims Israeli survivor of Kibbutz Be’eri raid
An Israeli woman who says she survived the October 7 Hamas raid in Kibbutz Be’eri told Israeli State Radio in a now-censored interview that the true culprits in the mass slaughtering were Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers, not merely Hamas militants acting entirely on their own.
According to Yasmin Porat – you can listen to a clip of her speaking below – Israeli forces “undoubtedly” killed innocent Israeli civilians, adding that they “eliminated everyone, including the hostages” amid the crossfire.
The 44-year-old mother of three alleges that prior to the arrival of IDF soldiers, the Palestinian captors treated her and other civilian hostages “humanely.” In other words, Hamas may not be as violent, especially against civilians, as the Israeli government claims.
naturalnews.com/2023-10-24-israel-civilians-shot-killed-hamas-attack.html
youtu.be/3cPeRSVgUpQ
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“Thou shalt do war by deception.”
Lots of grizzly topics up for discussion today, OG. What benefits would accrue to Israel, and possibly allies, if such an “inside job” did occur? Many Israeli citizens are Arab and have deep sympathies for the Palestinians. Perhaps they would have their reasons for shifting blame? Overall though, it is doubtful the situation in Israel and the occupied territories is any more clear than the goings on in Afghanistan or Iraq.
Nice. You are looking for motive and opportunity when analyzing crime. That, of course, is the first key step.
Q: Why would/did Israel run 10/7 as a black op?
A: War!
Zionists have every intention of Greater Israel. Zionists plan on having the entire region – from the Mediterranean Sea to the River Euphrates.
There, of course, is only one possible way to achieve their goal: War!
Yes, it makes sense. I just wonder if they and we have the wherewithal to make that happen. Not sure it is possible. The other question is why now? Is it a now or never sort of thing? Or is this a carefully planned move on the chessboard?
As for the timing, Bibi was in massive political trouble before 10/7. There was even talk of an Israeli Civil War. I believe that it truly was a “now or never” situation for him.
Like chess, the strategy is carefully planned while, also, the time clock is ticking. [i.e. A bit of both.]
Gotchya, that does make sense. The Israeli left is or was looking for any way possible to remove Bibi from power or reduce his power substantially. Seems like this is good opportunity for the Israeli power class to consolidate their power and perhaps shove aside those differences to prevent further problems.
You meant “grisly.”
As for OG , I think he means well , which counts for a lot in my book. Unfortunately I disagree with about 90% of what he argues.
Well, at least you are correct 10% of the time.
I’ll just say that there are people commenting here who clearly know nothing about farming or those who engage in it.
Every farmer I’ve ever known has, whether they own land or not, been deeply involved and interested. Farmers absolutely live for farming! If you knew any of them, you’d know this. There is nothing they’d rather do, they’re in no way bored. When they get together with other farmers, they talk about farming! Farming is life, if that’s your calling.
It has become more mechanized, but you should realize that there are many, many people whose talents are best used by picking up stones in a field. That’s absolutely not intended as an insult. It’s wise to put people to work doing what they can do well, and what is needed. There’s no shame in sweeping out a stable, provided you do it well. For people who are at a relatively low level of intelligence, it’s not in the least boring. Having worked with these same people, I can tell you that they took great pleasure in doing a simple job well and being praised for it, probably a great deal more than those who have done more mentally demanding forms of work. Your concept of boredom is meaningless to quite a sizeable percentage of the human race. These are the same people who, without that suitable work, can be found in our cities busily whacking old ladies across the head and stealing their purses.
Did you hear about the Saskatchewan farmer who won the lottery? When asked, “What are you going to do with all that money?” he replied, “I’m going to keep farming until it’s all gone.”
@OG, Typical farmer. I’ve never known one who would not say the same.
1) You are, to a degree, talking about “gentleman,” hobbyist farming. This is true even if you are referencing actual, modern, commercially viable farmers… because farming is a hell of a lot more enjoyable when several barrels of oil, or some slaves, or anyone but you, does the bulk of the labor required for doing it well.
2) These “morons” who are best suited to stable-cleaning and stone-picking, even enjoy it… they are largely a class or a psychological makeup created by intensive-agricultural civilizational systems… even probably genetically created. As such, they are a de facto, created “slave” class who in every way contribute to the self-undermining qualities and instabilities of the agricultural civilizational system.
Anyway, in non or minimally agricultural societies, requirements of daily labor are “less boring,” not because they are not manual, tactile and relatively basic, but because they are less repetitive and involve and require a higher level of agency, creativity, complexity, and involvement with nature.
Much of the modern appeal of farming, in addition to being much more palatable with a mechanized slave-force at the ready, is also a result of farming being one of the last occupations with some direct connection to nature involved, even if that connection is duller and more bland than a hunter/gatherer’s…by default, it’s better than nothing.
I.e., when farming’s all you know, it seems okay, under the right circumstances (a slave force at your command).
Rulo would probably get mad, but I would even call him and many really great people seeking to farm sustainably on a small scale, utilizing excellent theoretical approaches like permaculture… hobbyist farmers..
@gustafson, If you think that “hobby” farming isn’t physically extraordinarily demanding, you have never spent a day with a farmer. Besides, there’s really no such thing anymore as a gentleman farmer. Farming doesn’t pay enough for such a thing to exist, unless you’re Bill Gates – and then I’d dispute the “gentleman.”
I’m at a loss to know what these creative, less repetitive, non-tactile activities are. Most everything that keeps a civilisation going, such as weaving to provide clothes, is repetitive and has little room for creativity. What is this Utopia to which you refer? You seem to want us to return to a hunter/gatherer life – nasty, bloody, violent, short and brutish. I’m baffled.
Read the firsthand anthropological accounts of primitive tribal life like Colin Turnbull’s “The Forest People,” or Jared Diamond’s New-Guinea observations. Nasty, bloody, violent, brutish and short describes post-Agricultural-Revolution life outside the upper classes, not pre-agricultural life.
And, just think how physically demanding hobby farming (which I’ve done a decent bit of) would be sans hydrocarbons… nearly prohibitively demanding.
Even an in-debt tractor-driver who owns his 200 acres is a “gentleman farmer.” He owns a team of hydrocarbon slaves. Plus his latest tractor models have wifi, air-conditioning, drink holders, a stereo…
Gus,
Your conception of what is boring lacks understanding of how most of the human population actually thinks.
Rowdy is right. Many people love, or at least tolerate well, the numbing routine of such work. It’s actually even soothing if you can get into a steady rhythm. I know. During my younger years, I engaged in all sorts of grey (and blue) -collar work. The issue with it depended on who were my immediate bosses, and the structure of the company. The work itself was never the problem.
And farming doesn’t have that problem. Though there are certainly other pressures — weather, loan payments, getting used parts, etc, at least you’re your own boss.
Even for intellectuals, repetitive, (mentally) unchallenging work is often better than its opposite: office work with its million-and-one stupid internecine politics and meaningless data upkeep. That’s the definition of boring — the mind as “garbage in”. It’s no wonder that today’s pop can only provide “garbage out”.
After a day stacking boxes in a warehourse, one’s mind is still fresh, and ready to tackle speculative or other challenges of an intellectual or spiritual nature.
Indeed, Soul.
The most satisfying work I ever did was landscaping during my summers while in college.
@Soul
“Boring” might not be the ideal wording.
Know exactly what you mean about blue-collar work. I left school at 21 and have never done anything else since, and was always quite happy doing the various jobs I did (retail, restaurant, healthcare grunt-work, construction).
But, in the agricultural civ (all levels, really.. office, field, manufacturing plant..), it’s a kind of spiritual boredom, not a minute-to-minute task boredom. It’s a too-easy satiety combined with reduced agency. It’s the spoonfed satiety that’s boring and numbing at some fundamental level more than anything… It results in a restlessness and craving for sensual abandon that has been too stripped from the 9 to 5 and the complete, numbing systemification of the pursuit of dinner.
The contrast between non-agriculturwl life and agricultural is lost on us, generally. We ONLY know the agricultural.
But, my point kind of could be expressed like this:
“If you appreciate blue-collar work, if ‘the most satisfying work (you) ever did was landscaping..’ for instance,
just wait till you try hunting and gathering.”
Or, “you only like farming because you’ve never hunted…without a full Mossberg gear-set, every day, with no mortgages or bosses whatsoever.”
Well, Gus, no need to go back to an unknown past where it’s the feuding camps of Romanticizing hunting and gathering vs the Hobbesians, both of them speculating with more ideology than evidence.
There’s a lot of research, including random controlled studies generated by field studies (living with them) of one of the last unadulterated hunter-gatherer tribes still in existence — the Hadzas.
They work about 3-4 hours a day. If they don’t catch any significant, moderately large prey — which is fairly often — they quit after a few hours and return to camp with no stress. The women do most of the food collecting (tubers, berries, nuts), the men scale trees for a shitload of honey. And they just sit around on their heels the rest of the day, sharpening a few tools and shooting the shit.
I’m not a Romanticist either — they’re healthy, but die earlier than us because of infection and lack of hospital care — but to take a Hobbesian view as a universal default position is just as fallacious as its more mocked opposite.
Good stuff, Soul, except, pre-ag life-expectancy is in the sixties when you remove infant/childhood mortality skews to the number.
So, the only thing they lose without healthcare is the burden of too many, and too weak, offspring. And no heart-disease, diabetes or cancer to speak of.
And also, your insistence on some kind of compromising mean between “noble-savagism” and civilizational-development championism is specious, unsupportable, unsupported, suppositional bunk.
Primitivism is not “noble-savagism,” actually. No assumptions of inherent virtues or intelligence about any primitives are made. Its simply an analysis of the effects of abstract social and economic systems on standard, fallible and prone-to-fuck-up human subjects.
“Primitivism is not “noble-savagism,” actually” — Gus
I was speaking to a general view, not yours specifically.
“your insistence on some kind of compromising mean between “noble-savagism” and civilizational-development championism is specious, unsupportable, unsupported, suppositional bunk.” — Gus
You realize your assertion is just a non sequitur, right? I’m open for your explanation.
Got a misplaced reply, Soul, just below, attached from one post too high..
No such thing as noble savages – just degraded moderns and agriculturalists.
Thus the hunter gatherers – being normal and non-degraded – are noble by comparison. Thus do I explain Gustaph even to Gustaph.
(Steals Jarek’s nice idea for later.)
You’re right, I could turn the tables better in that way. Maybe I’m Rousseauian after all.
“but to take a Hobbesian view as a universal default position is just as fallacious as its more mocked opposite.”
Maybe I misread your point. I didn’t remember who Hobbes was exactly, lol.
Social contract vs Rousseauian noble savagism.
I don’t really know what this old saw/trope/dichotomy’s relevance is to the subject, really? I don’t really go for either of these choices, I think. What’s the real relevance for understanding pre-agricultural life?
Where did you see a non-sequitor?
The non sequitur is saying that the compromise (I’d rather call it a path with many variations from either extreme) is “bunk”. Without backing, IOW.
It’s relevant because of your statement, “If you appreciate blue-collar work, if ‘the most satisfying work (you) ever did was landscaping..’ for instance,
just wait till you try hunting and gathering.” ”
Your mordant comment asserts (please correct me if I took it another way than you meant) that hunting and gathering are brutal, and I recall (again, correct me if I’m mistaken) that you side with Hobbes that “life is nasty, brutish, and short”. That famous quote is from Hobbes’ Leviathan .
Oh, we are really misfiring here, maybe.
I said pre-industrial agricultural life outside the upper classes was nasty, brutish and short, but not hunting/gathering.
I am anti-agriculture, pro-primitive-hunter/gatherer, basically.
So, I don’t want much if any compromising of hunter/gatherer primitivity with civ developments.
Ah… you’re right, there is a non-sequitor quality to calling your call to compromise between extremes “unsupported bunk” without supporting my own “bunk” accusation. True; I own that…
When I said, “If you liked landscaping, just wait till you try hunting and gatherering,” my intended meaning was something like this:
“If you thimk Hershey kisses are the greatest thing you’ve ever put in your mouth, just wait till you try a bite of Italian-made Tiramisu.”
Ha! Comment streams are a shitty way to communicate. But face-to-face isn’t any better these days, for different and various reasons.
Individual family farms would be a major improvement over the mega corporation farms that predominate now. I mean, in terms of trying to reduce the slave system and social systems generally.
Rulo dreams of this.
I have a library-full of permaculture books.
But you’ve reached the conclusion that permaculture is ultimately not the way to go?
It is, the way the Amazonians did it when they slowly increased the density of fruit trees in the forest.
People want resources and will fight to keep them. The Oak Groves of Ancient Southern California was one such, the acorns being an important source of protein.
Heavy fighting took place at some of them. Bodies have been found with embedded arrows, cut wounds, etc.
Bwana hunger is a snake in Gustpah’s putative Garden of Eden. One of them. Eros or the desire for “more” is another.
Good thoughts. If the desire and perhaps capability to plant cornfields and grow obscene armies out of them were suppressed, all the warring any hearts desired could be, would be, a fine part of the system.
Yes. Yet another wise post from Rowdy.
I hate the word “lifestyle”, but if that term can be applied to any group, it would certainly fit farmers.
Displaced, pushed out, bankrupted farmers become lost and depressed.
Up here on the Canadian prairies (Sask.’s small economy is all about wheat, canola, lentils, mustard, flax, etc.), farming has changed so very much since I, as a 6-y.o., would stand behind my Dad or uncle or Grandpa in the John Deere tractor cab and summer-fallow.
In the 1970s, I saw the very end of being proper stewards of the land – before our precious, God-given soil became a sponge in which we now grow your food in and under constant chemical showers.
In the 1970s, the land (i.e. the sum of all the many small farms) was owned and ran by third and fourth generation of the hardy souls who homesteaded it less than a century prior. Today, one farmer owns and rents all the land, has yards-full of super-expensive tractors and combines and seeders … and sprayers! He needs lots of sprayers. Today’s Sask. farmer is big and is Monsanto’s revenue.
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To encourage settlement in Western Canada, the Dominion Government offered a grant for a free homestead of 160 acres (also known as a quarter-section) for a $10 registration fee to those individuals and families who were prepared to live on and cultivate the land during a qualifying period of time. Millions of people from around the world flocked to the Canadian prairies to take advantage of these land grants.
1872 (original Dominion Lands Act)
The settler must cultivate and reside on the land for three years.
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I spent half my life here … and I cannot imagine being 21 y.o. in Montréal or Dublin or Dresden and landing here – given a patch of prairie and told to winter – get going! I can’t even fathom how much better those people were than am I.
But they did it, God bless them.
It’s all an inevitable progression, OG. The supposed “golden age of the virtuous, autonomous farmer-landholder” never lasts long. Always “empires to build,” “neat opportunities opening up in town,” and “too many children to pass the ol’ farm to just one of them.”
I don’t know about the winter.
The last time I experienced a roughly comparable winter I was nine years old.
But , generally , when I think of Sasketchewan , my thinking is very like this ;
youtube.com/watch?v=d6nboQc7Ys4
Only flat , instead of mountains , and like Stalingrad , only west , not east.
I never gave you a theme song , that was before your time.
Now that’s your theme song whether you like it or not.
OG writes:
“In the 1970s, I saw the very end of being proper stewards of the land – before our precious, God-given soil became a sponge in which we now grow your food in and under constant chemical showers.”
Groundhog (formerly known here as Woodchuck) responds:
I have a large backyard garden and have been growing backyard veggies for a few decades now. It’s not an activity I particularly enjoy, and most people misunderstand why I keep doing it. As a kid I made some of my spending money doing neighborhood landscaping chores, and tending home gardens was one of those jobs – repetitive work sometimes done in hot and humid weather. One part of many home gardening actitivites is managing insect pests. For years I’d spray my potato plants with Sevin and later used much more expensive organic sprays to combat Colorado potato beetles and flea beetes. The potato beetles. if left alone, can eventually strip entire rows of potatoes of half their leaves and give you a poor crop. The same situation happens with many other varieties of veggies, cabbage and brocolli get attacked by green caterpillars, worms and bugs in your corn – out comes the chemical warfare. And you read the labels on the bags and bottles of poison you are mixing up and a thought inevitably arrives in the gardener’s miind – I’m going to be eating a bit of this toxic garbage I’m spraying everywhere. But no other option is available – right? We must use sprays or see our crops destroyed by bugs.
This is completely incorrect, and I know this by experience. I’m lucky in that I have access to dumptruck sized loads of composted leaves, and over the years my garden soil has become extremely rich, dark, and productive. I’m no longer bothered by insect pests. This seems counter-intuitive but I’ve read in numerous organic gardening books that if your soil is rich enough, has all the right ingredients with the best ph, has all the minerals, then you will not need any chemical fertilizers or pesticides. The insects will only attack weak plants, not strong ones. In addition to composted leaves I add large amounts of ashes from wood heaters, rock dust, etc. It takes a good number of years to get your veggie garden soil in perfect shape, but it can be done. It takes some commitment and an ability to tolerate some boredom. Raising veggies is only half the work. The other part is more boring and hot hours in the kitchen processing and canning food. If you can get a group of people together doing these chores as a group project then you can have a bit of fun talking while peeling.
Fascinating. Like predators going after the weak or the young. How is a wolf going to enjoy his Elk burger if the Elk took out one of his eyes with his antlers or knocked out half his teeth with a hoof to the face?
It cannot be completely true. Japanese beetles love roses. The better the roses, the healthier the beetles. Don’t they need minerals too?
Or does the healthy plant develop a defense system that makes in inedible?
Insects seem to have a highly developed and very specific sense of smell. For some situations like with fruit trees, it doesn’t matter how healthy the trees are – the insects love the sugar that they know is in the fruit and they’re coming for that sugar. If you don’t spray you’ll have no peaches.
But for other crops like potatoes or brocolli it’s a completely different story. Here’s an explanation from John Kempf’s organic growing blog:
“…… Insects do not do well on healthy plants. They can starve. You can take a Colorado potato beetle and put it on a healthy potato plant and it will not be able to eat it. But you can take an unhealthy potato plant and the Colorado potato beetle will go to town, because this is what it is meant to do. And so because insects are only attracted to unhealthy plants, the unhealthy plants will advertise themselves. They’ve got certain visible frequencies that insects can detect, especially from a distance. And they’ve got certain odors. And these odors can be picked up by the antenna and by the sensilla, and the insect will move in for the kill, so to speak.”
@ Rowdypiglet:
I think even you are downplay (or perhaps don’t know) the mental work and knowledge base that goes into farming.
One of my daughters used to be the garden manager for a very large intentional community. She once sent me a dizzyingly intricate chart that they used for their crop-rotation system and, another time, explained that they used a similarly intricate spreadsheet for their garden planning–which she said was so complex that she didn’t see how they could do it without these charts and spreadsheets.
Then there is the soil-science angle of farming. To get an idea of how fascinatingly complex this is, have a look at John Jeavons’ book, How to Grow More Vegetables. It will also clue you in to many more complexities.
Humans were made for physical work, made to use their bodies–not sit in chairs. The body rejoices in physical activity. One J.L. Hudson quote that I like goes something like, “It is possible to plant potatoes and listen to the birds sing.” There is no greater joy than playing in the dirt in the early spring.
One of my neighbors raises sheep and is always posting pictures on Facebook of his sheep grazing in the meadow with the little lambs frolicking around the moms. You’ll find that farmers are deeply attached to their sheep and goats and are heartbroken when some elderly doe dies, or when one of the babies doesn’t survive. When a newborn goat kid looks like it will die without care, the farm wife brings it home and keeps it immersed in warm water for an hour–or as long as it takes–to revive it, and puts it in a box with a heating pad by her bed, so she can keep watch over it and feed it overnight. Then she bottle feeds it till it’s old enough to be weaned, because Mama goat is sure to reject it after it smells of humans.
Not sure if anyone is following the arcane processes of House Speaker selection, however, Tom Emmer has dropped out of the race. From a MAGA path perspective this is a favorable development. Tom Emmer wants to abolish the Electoral College, wants the Ukraine war fully funded, and despises former President Donald Trump.
“German researchers have now found that spike proteins form in heart cells 48 hours after injection with the Pfizer and Moderna shots.
It has also been found that the shots contain MASSIVE levels of DNA contamination.
Have they injected us with poison?”
https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1716810022846702035
Three years on, and even the above-average midwits are still not entirely sure.
My Mom & Dad each got a COVID shot in one arm and flu in the other not yet two weeks ago. Sad but true.
Simian Virus 40 (SV40) is said to be the worst offender in terms of the DNA contamination. Prior to covid 19 doctors and the medical establishment generally stood as one of the last trusted institutional structures in modern society. Now that is gone too, but the adjustment is difficult for those who had high levels of trust. Peter Sweden is a strong voice of resistance against the blob.
Not sure there is a worst. The swill has been put under the microscope quite a few times since being injected by the unthinking or overly trusting masses.
One thing is clear: We are all being poisoned. Shedding is also quite real, though I do what I can to limit my time around the shedders.
It was bad enough being locked out of society and being told by the shedders how evil I was, and now many of us have to be personally affected by the results of their stupidity on a level that goes far beyond what already happened.
It is hard not to want to torch them all, but I have a soft heart.
And I believe part of their test is to see how many of us can remain humane and human in the midst of all of this.
Humane for those who repent for their sins, sure.
For the rest? Spike protein.
You know they locked us out of grocery stores here (Germany) in some areas? Your humanity could get you put into a cattle car depending on the situation.
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Yes, because many around you lost their humanity and clamored for the unvaccinated to be punished for not following government mandated protocols. They behaved as cattle. You passed the test because you didn’t fall for it. You’re a thorn in the side of their matrix.
Spuds wishes that he was a thorn but he’s a thistle. Just a tiny, little prick.
“…I do what I can to limit my time around the shedders.” Night Owl
Thanks God for that! It must be extremely unpleasant to have to listen to your bullshit IRL.
Hahaha! Well-played.
Yet you were so unpleasant online (anonymous, ofc) that you were banned multiple times, Mike.
Shedding or not, I doubt you have to worry about living creatures in your presence.
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Nightie…this obsession you have with people who were banned must be worrying your psychiatrist. Does she think she can TALK you out of it or will a powerful medication be necessary?
The Jello can’t not respond.
Glorious.
Good data, NO.
One of my ongoing beliefs is that a major problem with the mRNA concept is that the junk can get directly into the bloodstream and not stay in the deltoid muscle. Having given and been given lots of IM injections, the assembly lines that gave the shots did not take the care to pull back the plunger to guarantee the tip is not in contact with the bloodstream. The German data is totally not surprising to me. A large percentage of the shots went into the blood and to all the ACE2 receptors in the body, the heart being a huge one.
My feeling three years later is that the “team” in DC knew the risks that this technology posed and decided to take the loss.
I know nothing about the DNA contamination but I know that a research team found out that if the mRNA reached the liver, again the bloodstream leakage, reverse transcriptase created DNA in the liver cells. Does that make liver cells that just generate s proteins?
The biggest question of all is
Does the mRNA and s proteins go away, does the immune system rid the body of the two poisons?
I notice that little or no research has been reported on this.
Regardless of where things end up down the road, the fact that anyone makes excuses for these products is beyond belief.
They used to pull products for merely a few cases of illness or something more serious. There are hundreds of thousands of people injured or killed from the gene therapy shots, and mountains of evidence proving they changed definitions of longstanding concepts in order to eventually mandate these products.
I have little doubt they were made with the intent to kill, but even if that were somehow not true, it is beyond belief that they were not pulled and are still being pushed.
A conversation about the contaminated GMO shots. And it turns out that the Canadian regulatory agency is just as captured as the FDA.
/rumble.com/v3r1pqf-vaccine-adulteration-wkevin-mckernan-byram-bridle-chris-martenson-steve-kir.html
Correct. Canada is Australia North to the WEF & WHO. Plus I have heard more than once that Prime Minister Trudeau, in partnership with the University of British Columbia, is a patent holder on the nano lipid particles and pockets a portion of all revenues – not just nationally but globally.
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Good for Dr Byram Bridle! He was one of the very first speaking out in 2020 and 2021 … and they broke him. They crushed him and he disappeared for a long time.
“Prime Minister Trudeau, in partnership with the University of British Columbia, is a patent holder on the nano lipid particles and pockets a portion of all revenues – not just nationally but globally.” — OG
Which is why Trudeau ordered over 400 million jabs in May 2021, long after the initial frenzy had died down, and another 40 million in August that same year.
The sickness industry is very healthy.
Gaza is 26 miles long and 3 – 7 miles wide. There are 300 miles of tunnels beneath Gaza. I heard one time that the most interesting part of any city is underground.
Just a question.
Were those 300 miles of tunnels in place before the Israelis built that wall? If so, what was the point. If the tunnels have been dug since, what is the name of the boring company, i want to buy some of their stock.
The tunnels are used by Hamas to move about presumably undetected by IDF, etc. I don’t talk about corporate profits and stocks when people are dying and civilians are starving and dehyrdrating.
Oh c’mon SSL.
I do not understand the fact that it is a surprise to Israel that these tunnels exist. Any high tech monitoring seismic system would have heard the digging going on to make 300 miles of tunnels or even 1 mile of tunnel.
Hence my question, did they dig these prior to the wall construction and installation of the wall and its high tech components? If it was after, we in America are screwed trying to stop the movement of contraband across or under our border, whether a wall exists or not. Hence my tongue in cheek comment on owning stock in the boring company.
Does the technology of digging tunnels surpass the ability of any defense perimeter to stop crossers of the border? Borders will be meaningless.
Sinaloa cartel is trying to stop Mexicans from manufacturing Fentanyl. Hmmm, are they doing it from the goodness of their hearts, under US pressure, or are they trying to corner the market?
One tunnel they found had a little railway to transport drugs. In addition, lights and ventilation of course – like other tunnels the cartels have built.
“FRANCE – Lockstep, as Macron declares…
“We Need a single global world order”
And then they all laughed.”
https://twitter.com/ElanderNews/status/1716406974168842594
Yo, Majeller (Mike Sherman)! The most fevered conspiracies are now being uttered openly by your pals.
Weigh in. Perhaps we can get another episode of the “Ukraine phone call” threads.
Imagine how stupid Mike knows he is deep down. Imagine the inner tension in his daily life.
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Imagine how stupid Mike knows he is deep down. Imagine the inner tension in his daily life.
Imagine having berries so tiny that the estrogen in a quarter teaspoon of soy sauce over-rules and then you think and speak thusly.
For people who think the NWO is a conspiracy theory, Iain Davis has an excellent (and amusing) short video some way down this article:
iaindavis.com/conspiracy-theorist-confesses/
‘The New World Order is a Thing’.
The article is good too, of course.
Now I’m confused .
I thought you were Layla ?
Grrr
Nice to see you anyway though.
I’m being boring and keeping my own counsel … still reading though.
Not to mention that my inbox is so full of the stuff I’ve subscribed to over the last couple of years that it’s out of control.
Talking of which, there is someone I intended to mention to you, with a URL or two, but I’ll have to leave it until tomorrow, which is already today, in fact half past three in the morning. And I have to be up early for someone doing stuff to my ancient windows …
Layla is Soft Starlight
Interesting the effects that just an error in identification can have.
I never thought SoftStarLight and I got along that well.
She seemed really really nice when I thought she was somebody else.
Wierd.
Why would SSL have a sock?
A sock, Alba!? Oh my gosh, it’s my favorite satin slip dress actually. Uggh.
Gus!! Omg lol you’re supposed to shh
Oops
You’ll have to do it again. I spoiled that one.
“I thought you were Layla ?”
Goodness!
You’re very subjectively focused. You didn’t know who Anglin was even though I’ve been posting him for years.
Thus your inner life is both richer – and poorer – that that of other people. I’m a bit like that, though not as much as you.
Your (our) inner life is richer but your outer life is poorer thus making your inner life poorer in that respect at least.
@JimInFlorida
re: your post of 10/17/23 @ 3:16pm
“I have no doubt that the Tribal members of CFN will shriek, curse, and wail at the mention of The Turner Diaries. Their lame attempts to question my sanity and morality will fall on deaf ears. Their boorish and scurrilous shaming language, and anti-White racist hate, does NOT negate the essence and irrefutable Truth in that book.”
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The Turner Diaries is the most sick and fucked up tale I have ever read.
Imagine the horror of being white in the new blood-soaked, purely white nation, surrounded by nothing but white-skinned idiots without a clue what a country or tribe should actually be or how it should function, as they all slowly realize race was just a minor sideshow problem the whole time to all their real problems, and they all go into mass pubescent-whiny-melt-down mode simultaneously.
Poor old gus… must be hard subsisting on a diet of Metamucil and self-loathing but you do you.
I can think of another possibility in the scenario you paint: they start to look around for the eunuchs in their midst, decide that they just might be a pathology that can no longer be tolerated and give them the old Hamas treatment. That might actually preemptively solve a good portion of a polity’s “problems “ if undertaken as a first step. Probably have to chalk that hypothetical up as a win if it were to go down but any way you slice it, the future world will have no place for the limp.
First thing survivors of the Turner-Diaries event would find out is that so very little had actually been accomplished, that the real work hadn’t even begun to begin yet, that their original criteria had been so horribly limited..
It would absolutely, in the real world, be more of a shitshow than before.
I can fully acknowledge race is significant to culture, and absolutely still wince at the prospect of being surrounded only by my “own,” in the current state of U.S. “whiteness,” tomorrow..
I’d wish I could claim Swedish heritage exclusively and go back, but, nothing to go back to there. I’d be shit out of luck. Probably hide out in the woods just as much as do now, or head south.
Superficially it doesn’t sound like something I would be interested in.
But my last book report on the subject was Morris Dees.
If he isn’t familiar ,
to be brief ;
I find the claim that anyone with half a brain thought he was a sincere liberal , or even a radical leftist ,
as far – fetched as someone claiming they thought Bill Clinton was a
sincere liberal , or even a radical leftist.
Geez , in some cases , at least , sn’t the sleezeball factor kinda fucking obvious ?
Anyway , I have a higher opinion of you than I do of Morris Dees.
You haven’t experienced the horror of being attacked by Indians in the olden days, or by Blacks or Muslims now.
You still think that we can all get along because of capitalism.
One brother tried to stop a bunch of Somali women from stomping a White girl. He ended up losing vision in one eye – permanently.
As one guy commented, he just tried to stop them while they were trying to kill him. You can’t do that. You have to go all out – but you’re not allowed to. That’s why I moved as far away from minorities as I could.
We didn’t take this Continent by being nice, Q. We won’t keep it that way either. And very few people become rich by being nice either. But you’re fine with that, aren’t you now?
I worked in Industrial agriculture on various occasions.
I think ” Industrial agriculture ” is an apt description.
In that it works pretty much just like a factory , and is as drab as factories usually are.
— Except of course that it was outside , and you could smoke all you wanted , the trees and the animals didn’t care that you were covered head to foot in dirt or mud , you could smoke all you wanted , the boss couldn’t exactly hover over your shoulder because he would have to walk too fucking far to do it , and did I mention you could smoke as much as you wanted ?
The most interesting , and the one that really stands out in memory , was the feed lot.
That’s a typically actually a rather small place , where they ship in a hell of a lot of cattle , just long enough to fatten them up , or dispose of them otherwise , and then ship them back out.
This place was only about 60 acres , like they say Treblinka was only about 60 acres , and the boss said , if I remember correctly , about 50,000 head of cattle went through there in a year.
There were maybe 15 or twenty clumps of grass on the whole property.
You will no doubt think I’m exaggerating, but I wondered what being a Death Camp gaurd was like , and I think it was a ROUGH , GENERAL , ABSTRACT approximation.
Like the descriptions of Death Camps , the job was largely about counting numbers , and moving numbers from one enclosure to another enclosure ,
but with feeding ,
and without killing.
Though I do have my appropriate war story.
One day I was sent into the sick pen to move the sick cows into another pen.
Noooo , I don’t claim psychic powers , but this one cow looked so bad that I had a presentment that if I made that cow get up and move she would die.
But orders are orders , so I made the cow stand up.
The cow got up , with seemingly a very sad , and despairingly resigned air of being just plain tired of this shit ,
and promptly toppled over dead.
The boss was not upset , cows did occasionally get sick and die .
It was a cow , not a person , and the cows fate if it had lived was to die under a buzz saw , not in an open field.
And I’m no Vegan.
Cheeseburgers are one of things I think Americans SHOULD rightly brag about.
But that’s life ;
everything I DO like about America , like cheap cigarettes and cheap cheeseburgers , Americans now think are shit.
You can’t win.
Anyway , that was like 30 years ago , but the incident still haunts me.
The sticking point is if I had left the cow alone , who would have cared , who would it have hurt ?
So it was utterly pointless.
Another excessively maudlin and barf – worthy ancdote is that amidst a thousand cows passing through , they all look alike.
But there was this one cow I did recognize. For some reason it was excessively fat , excessively hairy , and had a bad leg that looked a bit like the old pirate peg leg , because of the swelling at the top , and the stick below.
I took to calling the Cow ” Fatty Peg Leg. ”
I wanted to save Fatty Peg Leg.
But I didn’t have the money to buy a cow , and where / how would I keep a cow ?
So of course one day Fatty Peg Leg went off on the truck .
That wasn’t a bad job though.
Indoor , conventional factories really do fucking suck.
Now , if you gave me the choice between factory , prison , or death ,
no bullshit , my choice would be , ” Send me to prison or shoot me you rotten mother fucker. “
There its is folks, CFN Gold.
This is our American version of ‘Journey to the End of the Night’. the antidote to our agrarian dream of a bucolic farm life in the country lol.
“Send me to prison or shoot me you rotten mother fucker.”
I see shades of ‘The Day of the Locust’ in that sentence. Indeed, The Day of the Locust is upon us.
Gold.
Indeed.
Glad somebody liked it.
Like I told Alba earlier though , I’m a promiscuous plagarist.
“Send me to prison or shoot me you rotten mother fucker.”
Is an adaption of a line from the movie , ” Coal Miners Daughter. ”
The Line was ;
” The Coal Mine ,
Moonshine ,
or move on down the line. ”
Of course the moonshine part is illegal , and shortly after speaking that line the bootlegger is shot by Revenuers.
Yeah , be that as it may , fuck the coal mine !
If you see the similarity in the lines.
Actually I agree with these others , even factory work wouldn’t be bad , would maybe even be pleasant ,
if it wasn’t for getting pulled over for bad breaks , bald tires , expired tags ,
and you are working a 40 hour week.
So , strictly speaking , I would rather be shot that go along with the pretense that is anything other than dictatorship by a different method and guise.
Not the conditions , pay , or any of that crap.
Celine hated the Zionists. You love them. He could justify his hatred, but you cannot justify your love. It’s just normalcy bias. You love your conditioning. You think it’s you. And this is the only America you’ve ever known so even your natural patriotism (a good thing) is tainted.
Oh , one more thing , another job I briefly had was in a commercial Chicken house.
You don’t want to hear about that.
Dante’s Inferno made fucking real.
Nobody who owns a commercial chicken house would even qualify as middle class , you gotta be pretty affluent just to afford the ground floor I reckon.
But stranger things happen , and anybody for volunteers for that shit , rich or not , should get the Congressional Medal of Honor in my opinion.
The air in those houses ?
I have no doubt it would be cleaner and safer to smoke 6 packs of cigarettes a day , plus cigars , plus pot , plus crack.
“I have no doubt it would be cleaner and safer to smoke 6 packs of cigarettes a day , plus cigars , plus pot , plus crack.”
I worked galvanizing steel for several years during and after high school, breathing sulfuric acid, dust, a concoction of other chemicals, 2nd hand smoke from chain smokers who couldn’t touch their lit sticks (hands occupied), and zinc ammonium chloride.
Rainforests might be the lungs of the Earth, but who cares about human lungs in factories everywhere?
I watched a TV programme a few years ago about conditions in American meat processing plants (it was while people, including myself, were getting exercised about the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP treaty) between the EU and the US).
A woman who was campaigning for better conditions in these processing plants said that in one plant she had visited, the workers wore nappies (diapers) while working because they weren’t allowed toilet breaks.
Hard to credit, but I don’t think she was making it up.
Slightly more than a few years ago, since we left the EU in 2016.
How time flies when you’re enjoying yourself …
I wouldn’t think so either.
On the other hand , like I said , nobody who owns a chicken house is poor ,
so / but they volunteer for that shit !
Life is full of genuine fucking mysteries.
And they should get the Congressional Medal of Honor —
— for some kind of sainthood
— for being psycho
your guess is as good as mine I suppose.
I have heard the same thing about Amazon delivery drivers.
The nappies that is.
Maybe they didn’t trust them to wash their hands? If they contaminated the meat, it might be bad for them. Law suits and what not.
One Lady astronaut drove across a good stretch of America to kill her love rival. She was wearing them so she wouldn’t have to stop. So these kind of people are out there.
White workers were often treated worse than Blacks because the Black were valuable property. Whites were just workers to be worked to death.
Whites are still be treated worse than Blacks. Nobody cares except White Nationalists.
The current Drudge Report headlines:
HAMAS ROCKETS TARGET TEL AVIV
SYRIA JOINS IN
USA READIES MASS EVACUATIONS FROM MIDEAST
TROOPS ATTACKED 13 TIMES
DOZENS WOUNDED
IRAN NEW WAVE
BLINKEN WARNS ‘WE WILL DEFEND’
Freed Hostage Describes Web of Tunnels… ‘Went Through Hell’…
Saudi Arabia intercepted Houthi missile headed toward Israel…
Hamas divers killed sneaking into Israel amid rocket barrage…
Netanyahu angers military chiefs as he delays invasion…
The ‘Devil’s Playground’ of Urban Combat That IDF to Enter…
USA steps up surveillance as threats to troops grow…
Poll: Majority Wants Marines To Rescue American Hostages…
Macron proposes international coalition against Hamas… UPDATES…
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How are you feeling about your “This will simmer down” prediction now, Heckler?
You were banned during most of the years when that was discussed in detail.
– Spuds “Tiny Berries” nada
I could not have possibly been “banned during most of the years when [this] was discussed in detail” given that 10/7 [Israel’s 9/11. Remember the Alamo!] was a mere 2 1/2 weeks ago.
Ugh ! I can’t stand it !
I suppose it annoys the fucking shit out of him ,
but Spuds strikes me as the cutest nick- name ever !
Hahaha! I suppose it might. It is meant to be demeaning and belittling but I see your point that it might come off as merely cute.
I will have to reconnoiter it. Suggestions?
Do you know the provenance of this nick name?
It’s because the one formerly known as Zilch Nada kept feeling morally superior to posters who had been banned. I said that was like boasting about being a bowl of mashed potatoes.
If OG chooses to go back to Zilch Nada, I understand. That in itself was genius!
If all of you were in the driver’s seat, exactly what would you do differently to protect and preserve the American lifestyle.
That lifestyle is about to change Yugely.
A lot happening OG, that’s for sure. But we haven’t seen the IDF go into Gaza yet except for a few small raids; that will be the main event. Hamas releasing hostages here & there is a good sign.
Col. Douglas McGregor on Tucker on X:
bitchute_com/video/wAJRMXyBzJG2/
“I think most of the world will turn against Israel.”
“I think that we’re on this very dangerous road to Armageddon.”
Israeli Energy Minister Israel Katz, a key ally of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said in an interview published on Monday that Israel’s campaign in Gaza is part of a “World War III against radical Islam.”
rt.com/news/585667-israel-katz-wolrd-war/
A good sign?
The Hamas thugs know that if they release the hostages, especially the US ones, Israel will rain down hell and fury on them. They are not doing these releases out of the goodness of their hearts. They are dangling carrots to get a cease fire.
Actually, Hamas is doing whatever their CIA/MI6/Mossad handlers instruct them to do.
MacGregor: The IDF and American special forces went in and were shot to pieces.
If it’s only on Drudge, you have nothing to worry about yet.
It’s when it’s on CNN, Yahoo, MSNBC, and Fox 24/7 that you know they are cranking up for war.
Remember when the Kiev regime was shelling the people of Donbass for 8 years, attacking civilians, killing children, and shutting off the water? Remember how that was all anyone talked about?
Yeah…..that’s what I’m saying. If the Mighty Wurlitzer doesn’t trumpet it, it didn’t happen.
But … the 8 years of the Kiev regime shelling the people of Donbas, attacking civilians, killing children, and shutting off the water were not on Drudge so your argument falls flat on its face.
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Drudge is a bell-weather. Here are this morning’s headlines there:
HAMAS ROCKETS TARGET TEL AVIV
SYRIA JOINS IN
PENTAGON SENDING MORE IRON DOME
IRAN NEW WAVE
BLINKEN: WE WILL DEFEND
With Mideast crisis, Russia and China hope to turn tables on USA…
UN chief alleges law violations in Gaza, angering Israel…
All-female squad kill 100 terrorists in 14-hr gunfight…
Holocaust survivors struggle with war as trauma deepens…
Saudi Arabia intercepted Houthi missile headed toward Israel…
Hamas divers killed sneaking in…
Weapons Flood West Bank, Fueling Fears of New Front…
Erdogan cancels Israel trip; Calls Hamas ‘liberators’…
Progressives rebel against Biden’s handling of crisis…
UPDATES…
The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 2:26 am:
“If this Israel/Hamas thing is somehow some kind of Russian(/Chinese/Iran/?) ‘proxy chess-play’, say, to get NATO/USA away from Ukraine, then this Hamas-Israel attack will become a protracted/guerrilla/asymmetric war (until US[/etc.] is sufficiently bankrupted and/or goes home for good).
Time will tell, (such as if ‘this time it’s different’).”
—
“I don’t need to remind people that Israel, as a kind of American rep/sociogeopolitical-extension, is surrounded by a whole lot of States that might have some problems with that and the US in general.
Palestine? Iraq (Collateral murder video)? Iran? Syria (‘Assad must go’)? Egypt (‘We came, we saw he died.’)?
Looks like a salad.”
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“Get Out Of Dodge?
Caught this just now:
‘A multi-front war now threatens Israel after fire from Lebanon and Syria. The Israeli Defence Force said it is carrying out artillery strikes in Syria. The IDF defended strikes as a response to mortar shelling in northern Israel. The Israeli forces stated that they were targeting the origin of the mortar fire. Earlier, shelling was also reported on Israel’s volatile northern border with Lebanon.’ “
I nice war for the holidays. Just what I’ve been wishing for. Hopefully the networks will drop the football this year and devote coverage to the ME. We’re paying for it goddamn it! That’s the least they can do! I wanna see some blood and guts!
Wow. I just watched Jenna Ellis flip on Drumpf and then I see Meadows has done likewise. What a shitshow…poor wee Donald. He’s got plenty to whine about NOW, huh? It turns out his disloyal friends are all RINOs, right, JohnAZ?
LOL!
All part of the plan, Mike.
Ah. “The Plan”. Please, OG, go on…
Glad you mentioned that.
Just this morning I was asking myself , retorically ,
what sort of person , seriously , would say to themself,
” I should be President of the United States ? ”
In my case , nobody I would want to see without a wall between me and them.
( There is an actual story in that too. But I certainly have written a lot today. so later maybe. )
Aaah. How hard could it be?
Trump saying he should be president.
I am now disagreeing with him. The majority of the people of the US are no longer independent moderate or conservative member who believe in America First and MAGA. He no longer matches the psyche of the USA.
Patriotic Americans, ie MAGAs, need to find another place to live as our day has passed.
Trump. Too.
Mike
The Deep State uniparty controls everything now. Including us.
Trump is slowly setting in the West now and the last of the rats are jumping ship.
Congrats to all the anti-Trumpers, the last obstacle to the uniparty takeover is just about gone.
And yes, RINOS applies to just about every GOPer now as they adjust to the Brave New World in Washington, DC. If Trump is a goner, there is no opposition any more to the socialist takeover. BRICS++ will shut us down.
Same old shit you’ve been spinning for years, JohnAZ. *sigh* However, I feel compelled to congratulate you – you’re the first CFNer that I can recall who’s finally given up on Drumpf! May you be only the first of many.
As to BRICS++, it’s most recently published GDP estimate was $27.7 trillion, v. G20’s $70.7 trillion. It sure has a long way to go, so if I were you. I’d relax and have another tequila on your pool deck.
Mike thinks that everyone who takes a plea bargain is guilty.
In real life, 98% of cases end in plea bargains. It’s not really much of a bargain to have to decide whether you want to go to prison for decades, or take a plea, and pretend that you’re guilty.
Paula D is saying that, if you DON’T take a plea deal then you’ll be unjustly imprisoned for your misdeeds. This works on the false premise that every indictment around Trump and the cohort of insurrectionists are weaponized political attacks. Well, of course! She would say that, wouldn’t she? She, like so many MAGAts, has absorbed all the Trump-driven propaganda and can vomit up the bullshit excuses at will.
The facts are that these people, pleading guilty AND committing to testify against Trump when required, are all found to be liable by grand juries of ordinary Americans. You know…rule of law. If you cannot accept rule of law, try living almost anywhere else.
Jenna Ellis’s moving statement and her genuine tears were evidence of her utter remorse. Clearly, the scales have fallen from her eyes and she can see clearly what a load of shit Trump is and dumps all around him. She looked so freaking HAPPY it was over. Good luck to her.
Many women can cry when they have to. It’s part of the actor’s stock and trade. Google “the Method”.
Don’t be such a dupe.
It’s part of the actor’s stock and trade. – Jarek
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humor was her stock-in-trade as a writer
” Why would SSL have a sock? ”
— GreenAlba
Another long story .
Friday morning I collapsed into bed , and the next thing I knew it was Sunday night.
I suppose some would say Covid ,
I would say a flu that hit very hard and very quick.
( And my mother who I went shopping with , and my father later , got hit with the same thing apparently . )
Today I felt better.
Then up – page I wrote this ;
” Gee , good thing you – know – who isn’t around apparently ,
to claim I’m ranting ,
as if I could even begin to catch up with some posters in output. ”
This Layla person promptly responds ;
How do you like my new outfit? 🙂
Given my comment , perhaps you will recall / recognize the particulars ,
I immediately assumed then that Layla was GreenAlba under a new name.
The rest of our exchanges I suppose you can just as easily scroll up and read yourself.
Never mind the flu ,
I was rather elated.
My reaction was , ” Yay ! after three , four years ( ? ) we are finally hitting it off ! ”
So actually I’m kinda bummed , though not strictly because SoftStarLight turns out to be SoftStarLight ,
or because GreenAlba turns out to be GreenAlba .
One of those this – shit – only – happens – on – the -internet – things.
We sure do have some great women with spunk here on CFN.
youtube.com/watch?v=QBJfciyvahQ
You either got lucky OG ,
or you know things.
In the category of American things I like ,
as best I recall , Mary Tyler Moore was my original image of the perfect American woman.
I even liked her in “Ordinary People ” because she was in it.
Another one dead.
They don’t tell you that if you live long enough you see so many people go away.
MTM were national treasures (both the sitcom and the actress).
Ordinary People (1980) was Robert Redford’s directorial debut.
This is its very powerful trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=HQKEdiQ79OM
Probably exceedingly awkward and creepy , but you should know by now that for me that is standard operating procedure.
I’ve always been nice to you, Kesa. That doesn’t mean every day is a walk in the park just fyi.
On that particular score , I wouldn’t sweat that too much.
As I have said , like and dislike , as hard as that may be for others to understand , doesn’t mean much to me.
And as far as love and hate go , they may mean a lot to you , but to me they are even less comprehensible than like and dislike.
Perhaps , politely , you have to be high functioning , but severely autistic ?
Perhaps , not politely , you have to be a cold – blooded sociopath ?
Maybe it is living your entire life in other peoples countries ,
and which is worse , an alien country full of people you percieve as gods ,
or an alien country full of people you consider enemies ?
But those are all theories .
Like I said , I wouldn’t let that particular detail concern you much , if at all.
I didn’t get to be a 57 year old maid by accident.
Well, well, well.
Go D-Backs.
Go snakes! Beat Bush II’s home team!
It’s pretty easy to explain why I like Donald Trump , because it does come down to one thing , one incident.
While President , Trump was being enterviewed by somebody , I can’t even recall who , or specifically why.
As I have said , I have always been a pro – Russian partisan ,
still , he was playing nice with Russia , as if 24 – 7 – 365 70 year threatening each other with Genocide when no American really gives a fuck about Saratov , and no Russian really gives a fuck about Iowa , is a Good thing.
And best I can figure , having walkied into the conversation in the middle ,
is why the reporter was pointing out to Trump that there is strong evidence that Putin has had people assasinated / killed .
And you know how blunt Trump can be.
He replied , best I can recall ,
” We ( Presidents ? ) kill people too , you know. ”
I was floored .
I suspect , except for Nixon tapes that were supposed to be private — I know , never feel sorry for millionaire ,
but hey PRIVACY doesn’t mean a god damn thing , right ? Fuck it ! —-
I suspect that is the only time in my entire life I have heard a politician of any significant status speak the frank , unvarnished truth ,
you know , like I’m something more than five years old.
Even his well – wishers apparently don’t care for Trump’s mouth.
But , like Nixon’s tapes that were supposed to be private ,
THAT is what I DO like.
OOps , I forgot Nixon’s , ” They won’t have Nixon to kick around anymore ”
and Nixon’s , ” I’m not a crook ” ,
and Nixon’s , ” I don’t suppose anyone will ever write a book about my mother. … ”
* cue Kesa Anna starts crying.
Though , in those cases , what maybe tugs at my heartstrings is the blatantly obvious glee of folks who supposedly love human rights and all that jazz , kicking a guy in the teeth when he looks bad.
same same 🙂
Congrats JAZ! My aunt & uncle are snowbirds and arrived in San Tan yesterday. Phoenix will be electric for the next week or 10 days. Enjoy!
And … Good Luck!
Thanks OG. SanTan is about ten miles south of here.
“There was never a pandemic”
Mike Yeadon stands outside Parliament alone, preaching the truth.
https://twitter.com/Demo2020cracy/status/1716846940120322133
Truth-telling is not for the weak.
One of my cases of out and out , unambiguous bigotries ,
is I don’t like doctors , no matter who they represent .
But you are no doubt about it , bad ass.
Keep telling the pigs to fuck off.
I generally don’t tend to like them much either. Yeadon is different however.
A hugely impressive individual.
And I am confident he will be proven right about pretty much everything.
I’m an md, never got vaxed, took and prescribed hcq and ivermectin, believe Covid was overrated, the death rate inflated, the vax dangerous and poorly vetted. all for nefarious reasons.
But there was something. Just yesterday (second week back after losing my job for two years) I saw a CT of the chest on someone with Covid. The findings were horrendous, an appearance I’ve never seen before Covid and still only see in Covid patients.
However prevalent it is or isnt, Whatever you call it whatever it is however it got here there is something new and real out there.
Novel, lab-engineered cleavage sites?
As you know, SOMSD is committed to promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion meaningfully – not just saying the words but also promoting an inclusive school… Our aim is to build a consistent approach across the District as to how our schools observe and celebrate holidays and special events,” Taylor wrote. “Each year, questions arise from families, students, and staff about what SOMSD schools will be doing regarding Halloween.” My dear fellow Christians who wanted to cancel Halloween, the New jersey school is and it’s the left that is doing it. Cheer for now, Christmas is next. JHK another interesting article, but to making my Halloween trick or treat baggies.!
Happy Halloween y’all.
My mom told me how embarrassed she was when her class went on a field trip, and she didn’t have a nickel to buy a Coke like the other kids did.
I was like, why was the school letting them buy Cokes anyway?
When I was a kid and went on field trips, we never went to the gift shop. Why would a gift shop be part of a field trip?
But I chaperoned for my kids at times, and they always shepherded them to the gift shop, which I found annoying.
How is learning to blow money on worthless trinkets part of education?
I don’t think we ever wore costumes to school, either. Halloween was a night time activity.
Just saying….
Coca-Cola was made with real sugar-cane back in those days. There was no childhood obesity and a cold Coke on a hot day was a real treat.
You gotta live a little.
And to that ,all I have to say is:
httpx://i.imgflip.com/2h1wjo.jpg
Western Culture’s Enlightenment is under attack — ongoing now for decades — by Globalist adherents that’ve, so far, successfully camouflaged its goal of dominion uber allis with facade of “squaring historical injustices” via coalescing the “victims” into a “crusade” of restitution upon the contended victimizing culprits — those white devils.
The victimhood banner flutters over forces otherwise antithetical to one another: Muslim oligarchies (essentially theocracies along Medieval lines) allied with what has since the early 19th Century (but especially during the past six decades) emerged as a secular quasi dogma.
“Quasi” for absence of divine ordinance, but cultish for doctrinal “preachments”. “Woksterism” gospel displacing objective scholarship.
It is not ironic that taking the “jab” took on the solemnity of church “communion” against Devil incarnate Trump. Contrastingly, Joe Biden’s vacuousness behaviors and statements are treated as tomes from Mt. Sinai.
Contemporary tragedies such as the Jonestown Peoples Temple in Uruguay are illustrative of Mattias Desmet’s Mass Formation Psychosis, now again highlighted by the US’s political hysteria.
Not Uruguay, Guyana.
And they lied about that one, also.
://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/Jonestown.html
Thanks Paula D, correct you are. Not dyslexia, but the cause of such misattribution is…uh,duh…..what ? Before posting here I’d already caught the mistake before posting on another site. Duh, again.
“Desmet’s Mass Formation Psychosis, now again highlighted by the US’s political hysteria.” – Paula D
Indeed. This is a weird one though.
When JHK first introduced us to MFP, to me it all suddenly made sense and explained, perfectly, what Trump, MAGA, Bannon, Stone, and that whole caste of neoNazis & general trolls had pulled off on the most vulnerable portion of the US population – you know, the victimized white people who no longer have any agency but are compelled, like a Revivalist Church tent meeting to all “Hail, Trump!” and curse the “Demoncrats”.
So, this, along with OG’s spurious GLT crapola, explains a lot.
Your embarrassment viv-à-vis your tiny, little GLiT is understandable and all too common, Mike.
But do not despair. There is a cure: read.
If I may, start with the USS Liberty. That one’s a slam-dunk. It won’t be long and then at least you’ll be “off the schneid.’
Next, you can grab so low-hanging fruit with the 7/7 London Subway Bombings. Bibi was there that day and he was diverted from his planned route to avoid the mess. Nobody ever explained how they knew to do that … and then the whole thing was memory-holed.
Sirhan Sirhan also provides an easy point. Once you have notched 3, you’ll feel like a man and be encouraged to score higher and higher.
If you believe that Hamas breached the most secure and surveilled wall with fifteen (15) holes big enough for terrorists on dirtbikes while gaggles of paragliders gently floating overhead all went completely undetected and, therefore, unresisted on account of the IDF napping, then, almost undoubtedly, you have a tiny GLT.
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GLT:
For each of these 10 big historical events, score a 1 if you believe that it was a black op and a 0 if you believe the official story.
JFK ~ 1963
USS Liberty ~ 1967
MLK ~ 1968
RFK ~ 1968
OKC ~ 1995
9/11 ~ 2001
7/7 London Subway Bombings ~ 2005
’08 Crash/Housing Bubble/Hank-Paulson Treasury Looting ~ 2008
Boston Marathon ~ 2013
Vegas Turkey-Shoot ~ 2017
What is your score?
Questions persist about Israeli attack on USS Liberty naval ship that killed 34 American crew members
naturalnews.com/2023-10-24-questions-israeli-attack-uss-liberty-naval-ship.html
As the U.S. continues to offer unwavering support for Israel in its war against Hamas terrorists, it is important to remember that this support has not always been mutual – with one of the most egregious examples being when Israel tried to sink the USS Liberty, a noncombatant naval technical research vessel, killing 34 American crew members who were on board. However, many Americans are unfamiliar with what went down on that dark day 56 years ago thanks to efforts by the government and the corporate media to cover it up.
The attack on the USS Liberty in international waters off the northern Sinai coast has been shrouded in controversy and secrecy ever since it occurred. Some survivors maintain that it was a deliberate attack by the Israelis, and some former senior intelligence officials agree with their assessment. However, U.S. and Israeli officials have long insisted it was an accident.
The USS Liberty, which was under the command of the National Security Agency (NSA), had been sent to the area to monitor events taking place around the front lines of the Six-Day War in Egypt and Syria.
On June 8, 1967, an Israeli aircraft conducting routine reconnaissance patrols across the Mediterranean spotted the ship and was reportedly unable to determine its country of origin. The USS Liberty reported that an unknown aircraft was circling it shortly thereafter, and they contacted command to report that they would destroy sensitive documents they had on board with them to prevent them from being captured.
After that, the ship found itself being slammed by torpedoes in a two-hour attack that also saw bombs and napalm being dropped on it. As an intelligence gathering ship, it was unprepared to defend itself and was only lightly armed, and its distress signals were blocked by Israeli forces. Survivors have reported that the Israeli aircraft that attacked them were unmarked, and they deliberately strafed their life rafts. A total of 34 Americans died and 174 were injured.
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They blatantly lie right to your face. Accident my butt!
The above post should help many of you who have a tiny, little GLiT. [Do not despair, your GLiT can grow!]
Note: Once you’ve got it, nobody’s GLiT ever shrinks. Once you have done the work and then allow reality to take hold, it is yours for the rest of your life.
“Once you’ve got it, nobody’s GLiT ever shrinks.”
Yeah…is it incurable, like necrotizing fasciitis? Surely not. You cannot be beyond hope & reason.
Weird. I’ve never before heard of becoming enlightened as being considered as a malady that needs curing.
It appears that you are ashamed of the size (or lack thereof) of your tiny little GLiT, Mike.
Oh, dear, OG…brain diseases are a very sad thing, mainly because those who suffer from them are mostly unaware of it. You’re just one case-in-point.
Au contraire, mon ami. My battles with my mental illness are admitted and well-known.
However, do not fall into that trap where you assume that the mentally-ill are always wrong for we are sometimes correct.
OG, I wasn’t referring to your depression or anxiety and the like – the run-of-the-mill 21st-century mental disorders.
I was referring to the BRAIN CANCER that leads you to believe that Trump is the ‘good guy’. It’s just too sad.
I never said that President Trump is “a good guy.”
[APPLAUSE]
Reviving the story of the USS Liberty, as you have done, is a thoughtcrime and will put you on the CFN Tribe’s watchlist.
Thank you OG
The truth is the truth.
Fine form lately, OG!
By the way, you need to update your GLiT for this latest event. The early birds who immediately figured that one out deserve extra credit.
Ok please explain. What the hell would the motive be for a minute country of 2-3 million to attack a vessel belonging to their 180 million strong benefactor?
I’m 68 and was alive then. I’ve heard this Liberty canard forever. Maybe it happened. What was the motive?
I’m also a Jew and have yet to receive a single Greater Israel/world Zionist conspiracy dividend check.
I’m well aware of the horrible destructive history of American Jewry but I will contend that is social (eg nurture v nature – socialist European heritage, fans of labor, upper class decay) rather than a world wide conspiracy.
The Jew haters who mistakenly think every player was a Jew – Rockefeller, Eisenhower, blah blah blah are out of their minds. Move on.
What, Eisenhower and Rockefeller weren’t Jews? I’m a Jew too. I get my $2500/month world zionist check every day on the 1st of the month.
I’m joking, obviously. You know some Jews have a great sense of humor – that’s me, but with a sarcastic edge.
I’m just an innocent American who happens to be Jewish, yet I’ve always – and I mean always – been put down in one way or the other because of it.
I’m basically sick of it, so I don’t let others get away with it. I’m physically violent with them if I’m in their presence, and if they’re on-line, I won’t let them bloviate without a nasty comment (which is the most I can do).
I have a commitment right now, so I have to go, but if you want, I’ll finish my statement later.
Johnson and Israel … false flag for US to declare war on Egypt. Does that help?
You haven’t added Lahaina yet…
Lahaina was the impetus of the GLiT. This simple, 30-second Sociology test was developed while Lahaina still smouldered. The GLiT quickly separates the men from the boys.
FYI – Little boys have tiny GLiTs while real men sport 9s and 10s.
” you have a tiny GLT.”
OG,
Yeah? But my wife was very understanding….
Don’t sell yourself short, EF. Research. Grow and strengthen your GLiT. You owe it to her.
This came out 5 days ago. It may have slipped under your radar.
Maui County police find additional remains, raising Lahaina wildfire death toll to 99. LAHAINA, Hawaii — The death toll for the deadliest U.S. wildfire in more than a century has increased by one, to 99, after Maui County police found additional remains.
I still await <b<Gus to explain what could have possibly happened to the 10,000 that he admitted were barricaded by 2017 Vegas Turkey-shoot Incident Commander [whatever the flip that is!] John Pelletier orders.
According to the official story, they neither escaped nor died. Of course, that dog don’t hunt.
Lahaina 8/8. RIP. Lest we forget.
Earthlings & Karma
“The most interesting , and the one that really stands out in memory , was the feed lot…
You will no doubt think I’m exaggerating, but I wondered what being a Death Camp gaurd was like , and I think it was a ROUGH , GENERAL , ABSTRACT approximation.” ~ Kesa Anna
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A species that treats other species as well as its fellow species that way will, in all likelihood, inevitably abuse Mother Nature, if a case cannot be made that it is already doing so.
A species that abuses Mother Nature– reality– is living on borrowed time and will, in all likelihood, inevitably abuse itself, possibly to extinction.
Hence my argument for ethics as encapsulated in (green) anarchist principles.
Karma might really exist, just not in an immediate way that some people might believe.
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youtube.com/watch?v=8gqwpfEcBjI
The dead are mostly in the background when we celebrate Halloween around the ‘day of the dead’, and the celebration is not as reverentially spiritual as the Mexican festival. Here, it’s party time, it’s fun time, it’s whistle past the graveyard with ghoulish panache time.
Let the skeletons shriek and the werewolves howl, when both malevolence and fright are on the prowl. Stingy Jack is back, Jack of the Lantern, (Irish folklore), and we think of the Headless Horseman carrying his pumpkin.
‘Nice try, but only cads and fools think that you can stuff reality in a black box, lock it up, and throw away the key. Reality has Houdini-like powers to escape because reality is true magic. Reality is the ultimate super-power. Reality is not some asshole in a spandex suit with a cape and a mask. Reality is the white light that reveals the world.’ JHK
Okay Jim, but reality can also be dark and stark, and in this case there are two realities clashing, and their reality, rather than being stuffed in a black box, is currently overtly overwhelming ours. With Republicans divided and in disarray, watch the reality of post November 2024 stuff Houdini’s ass back into that black box and lock it up tight. It will be the time of the living dead, with no treats but tricks galore.
‘The message might be: detach from reality long enough and death comes creeping ’round your door. You see where consensual madness has gotten us? Believe enough things that are not true and nemesis comes roaring in, all fangs and claws, to gleefully shred you. So. Maybe it’s time to stop believing things that are not true.’ JHK
Republicans seem to be detached from the reality of their disunity and their lack of effective, coherent opposition. Believe that this is true, that the Democratic demons are slowly suffocating our souls, vampires draining our life blood, and that the prevalent passivity will soon have us servile and resigned. Zombie time.
Where were we after Jan. 6th, where were we after the raid on Mar a Lago, where were we after the concocted 50 intel signatures that helped elect Biden? And where are we on the border, maybe the greatest tragedy in American history? I’ll tell you where. In the land of the pusillanimous poltroons of passivity.
Obama, the black warlock, remains supreme behind the scenes, his minions putting the finishing touches on that famous ‘radical transformation’, doing it with superb black magic wizardry.
Will that ‘black magic woman’ be our next president? No, I don’t mean Harris. Help me God, perish the thought!
Most are oblivious to the extremely harsh reality of the coming Die-Centennial. Ukraine, the Middle East, Africa, etc., are just more examples of humanity’s state of constant turmoil, minor prelude to the Grand Guignol Esque to come, not to forget the Holocaust or the Holodomor. Stalin did not approve of Ukraine’s growing cultural autonomy, and so destroyed the Ukrainian peasantry and the intellectual and cultural elites to stop them from seeking independence for Ukraine.
Great piece of work Jim, but you’ll need even more than a cosmic hearing aid to hear those angels singing. Right now, the Devil’s tune drowns them out with mega decibels of desecration.
“So. Maybe it’s time to stop believing things that are not true.’” JHK
What a good idea. You guys should all try it.
Crap like this? Stop it. Just STOP!
“Obama, the black warlock, remains supreme behind the scenes, his minions putting the finishing touches on that famous ‘radical transformation’, doing it with superb black magic wizardry.
Will that ‘black magic woman’ be our next president?“
Crap, no. Reality and possible reality, yes.
Oh, I know you actually BELIEVE the tripe you put out, TS. It’s such a shame. So often in the past, you have actually displayed powerful insights into the miasma that is Trumpism. But you always end up back in the pit of doom & destruction.
Jenna Ellis gets it – what about you guys?
“Ellis’s plea agreement spelled out the statements she made that were lies. As legal analyst Joyce White Vance explained in Civil Discourse, this means the court has identified the specific lies that made up the Big Lie that the 2020 presidential election was stolen, and that Ellis will testify that they are lies. Those claims include the lie that there were 96,000 fraudulent mail-in ballots, that 2,506 felons voted illegally, that 66,248 underage people illegally registered to vote, that 2,423 unregistered people voted, that more than 10,000 dead people voted, that Fulton County election workers counted ballots with no oversight. “
All part of the show, Mike.
Hint: Space Force & watermarks.
Commander-in-Chief Donald J. Trump will be POTUS again on or before March 4, 2024.
Or you will eat you hat?
The Communists pulled this too right after the Russian Revolution. Give the people some hopium so they quiet down.
Yes. If DJT is not POTUS on March 5, I will eat my hat.
Fair is fair.
What is my prize if I am correct on this seemingly impossible prediction?
We demand video OG! Also, what kind of hat? No cheating! No little pansy nylon Head Sweats or anything like that.
Kuntsler should let you post the column that week if you’re right and you can call everyone out.
“What is my prize if I am correct on this seemingly impossible prediction?” – OG
TEOTWAWKT, OG
youtube.com/watch?v=xnW0oi7iPQ4
I’ll eat my hat if you are right.
Muh Jello is back with a vengance!
Cage match between the Hogger and da Jello!
With the Zilcher as the new Howard Cosell.
Toss our resident Neo-Nazi in to officiate.
No, you’re Vince McMahon – in the Steel Cage with Og as Trump.
What’s your GLiT, Mike? You want to believe in the truth? Then put your money where your mouth is and show us your GLiT.
We have a Speaker
Mike Johnson. (R) La.
I know nothing about him. I would like to know if he is “owned” by anyone?
I think it is a MAGA path favorable development. Matt Gaetz said the RINOS were gonna try to do some end run around him to prevent him from becoming speaker like they did to Jim Jordan but it didn’t work. So he sees it as a victory.
Mike Johnson is against Ukraine funding. He is also believes the 2020 election was stolen from President Trump and he was a Freedom Caucus member. Some people on the left are worried that he is going to marginalize gays and trans and minorities. They all hate him so he is probably going to be good. He wasn’t my representative in the state house here but people here like him.
Good news, indeed. I was just about to ask who this guy is.
But what of Layla? What of Layla? Is she non-political?
Oh, did she come across as non-political? I guess that’s a good question. We may never know? Perhaps she’ll show up again and we can inquire. You can never be sure lol. 🙂
Here is a pic of the Louisiana State Capitol
i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/20/75/d0207575bff42af0515842bc25473219.jpg
Nice building. I like the pelicans around the top. Tallest capitol building in the country. The “Kingfish” had quite an ego.
Yeah it is pretty cool. The inside is really neat too. The Kingfish wanted us to have a nice state house. He actually wanted us to have nice everything so they had to get rid of him.
Oh. I forgot to add that President Trump endorsed him.
You’re here posting SSL, which means you weren’t caught up in the 175 vehicle wreck on the interstate in Louisiana; thousands of tons of twisted steel, broken glass, burning rubber, smashed bodies & ruined lives.
We’ve been experiencing a high number of fatal auto accidents around these parts too (altho not on the scale of what happened in your state) more so, it seems, since the Spring of 2020. Fatalities in automobile accidents are taken for granted… after roughly 125 years of them. The total body count has to be in the tens of millions. (I have a stack of old newspapers from the 1920s; Memorial Day Weekend, 1927: Ct, 27 killed in car crashes, Mass: 45 deaths as a result of auto accidents.)
Entropy works in strange ways. You can characterize the massive pile up in Louisiana as a metaphor for the crackup of the civilization at-large.
Yeah it was really bad. It was due to a combination of swamp fire smoke and fog though given the situation I’m actually surprised they didn’t close that stretch of interstate for a while. There aren’t easy ways to get off of it and if it is really foggy you can’t see anything because you are literally surrounded by water. A metaphor too of what happens when you are living as if everything is normal when it is not and danger is literally lurking right down the road hidden in the mist.
Fyodor Lukyanov: Here’s Why Israel’s Continued Existence Is Not Guaranteed In The Long Term
The country isn’t used to operating without full American support and attention. It better start learning quickly
“Back then, the Americans believed that all the problems of the Middle East would be solved with the arrival of democracy there. This is where the scourge of Hamas in its current form comes from – first the US forced the elections, which were won by the Islamic Resistance Movement, and then they themselves refused to recognize the results. Hamas’s subsequent violent seizure of power in Gaza created the very enclave from which Israel was attacked earlier this month.
The leitmotif of the varied history of a hundred years is that it has all taken place, if not under the dictates of, then with the active participation of external forces. The composition of the latter has changed, but in every combination such players have set the tone. The change that has taken place now is that outside players are forced to react to events initiated by regional forces. This reaction is based on accumulated experience, but it does not work the way it used to. The degree of self-determination of the states in the region (let us call it the pursuit of national interests as they understand them) is much higher than in the past. Meanwhile, the major countries are running out of the instruments of coercion that worked in the twentieth century.” ~ rt.com/news/585554-israels-continued-existence-isnt-guaranteed/
cbn.com/news/israel/god-didnt-design-us-hate-former-hezbollah-fighter-now-ministry-leader-recalls-encounter
In the end, it’s the atheists you’re gonna have to worry about.
‘Rules-Based Order’
“Arendt’s subtitle famously introduced the phrase ‘the banality of evil‘. In part the phrase refers to Eichmann’s deportment at the trial as the man displayed neither guilt for his actions nor hatred for those trying him, claiming he bore no responsibility because he was simply ‘doing his job’ (‘He did his ‘duty’…; he not only obeyed ‘orders’, he also obeyed the ‘law’.) ” ~ Wikipedia
“I choose government…” ~ MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 21, 2023 at 6:03 pm
Hey – you at least gave me the dot-dot-dot this time. Bonus.
I’m not happy, but I’m not sad that we now have a Speaker in the House. The fellow looks O.K. but we don’t know what kind of deal was made behind closed doors. On the list of 25 RINOS that didn’t vote for previous applicants, most of them have taken money from FTX to include my representative Mike Kelly (R) PA Did the crew promise to look the other way as a deal to get this over with?
Don’t forget to keep track of the FTX trial.
BTW…IMHO there’s a lot of people out there that hate JEWS. Israel may be left holding the bag when Biden and company sees the writing on the wall. I doubt if Netanyahu would support 10% for the Big Guy! The clowns in D.C also figured out that we don’t have the assets to fight China, Russia, and the Middle East all at once.
Somebody is going to be disappointed!
Hate is a strong word and Jews is far too all-encompassing.
More accurately, IMHO, there’re a lot of people out there who disagree with Zionism and its concept of Greater Israel.
Almost fifty percent of Black Americans don’t think it’s alright to be White.
Now do the other fifty percent of Blacks think that those Blacks aren’t alright?
By no means. They’re fine with them for the most part.
Is there anything in your life not colored by Stormfront, Jarek?
Nazi Lies Repeated
AFAIK, ‘Jarek’ hasn’t yet defined ‘White’ or ‘Black’ nor run their definitions through the peer review process, have they?
If not, we therefore seem to be essentially dealing with ‘faith’ (religion, cult, etc.).
Father Jarek says so and therefore it is true.
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” ‘Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth’, is a law of propaganda often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels.” ~ psychologicalscience.org/news/how-liars-create-the-illusion-of-truth.html
Feeling Clusterfucked? Endless Repetition On CFN
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Janos Skorenzy [Jarek] January 30, 2018 at 2:03 pm #
What can I do? You haven’t learned the lesson yet. Thus I must repeat until you do. There’s nothing subtle about the human mind. Do you think it was easy to teach Whites that they’re racist? And White Women that White Men are no good? The trick is simple: endless repetition.
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K-Dog January 29, 2018 at 11:59 pm:
“Janos [Jarek] went by Vlad then.”
White: the skin is more or less cream colored, the hair straight to loosely curly, and the ancestral origin more or less northern European.
Black: the skin is in the darker brown range, the hair dark and frizzy, and the ancestral origin African.
‘That’s it?’, I ask. And then maybe you reply, ‘Yes, that’s about it.’ And then maybe I say, ‘Well then maybe that’s the problem… In that reality, people are flat and live on a flat Earth that the sun sort of revolves around and the stars are all on the same hemispherical plane or something.’
…And then you say, ‘Could be.’ and then we both go and hunt some witches or get our blood let or something.
No, in this reality people are in color.
Im down for some witch hunting (never hurts to hunt)
Today’s witches might be quite nice.
Do you think most Blacks are against Blacks who don’t like Whites – even if they are not?
Answer the question instead of attacking. Can we have a civil discussion – even if about an unpleasant topic?
I have to focus on race a lot because other people won’t focus on it at all. We know that culture or nurture matters. You people on the other hand give nature the short shrift. You’re the fanatics, not us.
You might have more in common with some so-called ‘blacks’ than you do with some of your so-called ‘whites’.
Meanwhile, some of your so-called ‘blacks’ might have more in common with some of your so-called ‘whites’ than those whites do with you.
Then what do you do?
I mean, how do you stand, Jarek? Literally. What’s your structure? How would you describe it? Do you think some ‘blacks’ might echo it better than some ‘whites’? Are you ‘white’? Is your neck long or short? Are you pigeon-toed or bow-legged or what? Brown eyes? Blue? Green? What’s your taste in fashion? Music? Do you like button-down collared dress shirts? Turtleneck sweaters?
OR, is your notion of race strictly black and white– whatever that means– come hell or high water?
I say it’s as laughable as your apparent love affair with Nazism/Hitler, given they slaughtered a shitload of your ‘whites’, including on their own side.
Maybe if you are in some kind of compromised condition now but lived with it instead in Germany then, who knows how things might have ended up for you in that context.
Maybe that doctor what’s-his-name– Mengel?– would have experimented on you.
Race Is a Social Construct, Scientists Argue
Racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out
“More than 100 years ago, American sociologist W.E.B. Du Bois was concerned that race was being used as a biological explanation for what he understood to be social and cultural differences between different populations of people. He spoke out against the idea of ‘white’ and ‘black’ as discrete groups, claiming that these distinctions ignored the scope of human diversity.
Science would favor Du Bois. Today, the mainstream belief among scientists is that race is a social construct without biological meaning…
In an article… in the journal Science, four scholars say racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out…
‘It’s a concept we think is too crude to provide useful information, it’s a concept that has social meaning that interferes in the scientific understanding of human genetic diversity and it’s a concept that we are not the first to call upon moving away from’, said Michael Yudell, a professor of public health at Drexel University in Philadelphia.
Yudell said that modern genetics research is operating in a paradox, which is that race is understood to be a useful tool to elucidate human genetic diversity, but on the other hand, race is also understood to be a poorly defined marker of that diversity and an imprecise proxy for the relationship between ancestry and genetics…
‘What the study of complete genomes from different parts of the world has shown is that even between Africa and Europe, for example, there is not a single absolute genetic difference, meaning no single variant where all Africans have one variant and all Europeans another one, even when recent migration is disregarded’, Pääbo told Live Science. ‘It is all a question of differences in how frequent different variants are on different continents and in different regions.’
In one example that demonstrated genetic differences were not fixed along racial lines, the full genomes of James Watson and Craig Venter, two famous American scientists of European ancestry, were compared to that of a Korean scientist, Seong-Jin Kim. It turned out that Watson (who, ironically, became ostracized in the scientific community after making racist remarks) and Venter shared fewer variations in their genetic sequences than they each shared with Kim.
Assumptions about genetic differences between people of different races have had obvious social and historical repercussions, and they still threaten to fuel racist beliefs…
The authors of the new Science article noted that racial assumptions could also be particularly dangerous in a medical setting.
‘If you make clinical predictions based on somebody’s race, you’re going to be wrong a good chunk of the time’, Yudell told Live Science. In the paper, he and his colleagues used the example of cystic fibrosis, which is underdiagnosed in people of African ancestry because it is thought of as a ‘white’ disease…
Fullilove noted that by some laws in the United States, people with one black ancestor of 32 might be called ‘black’, but their 31 other ancestors are also important in influencing their health.
The researchers also acknowledged that there are a few areas where race as a construct might still be useful in scientific research: as a political and social, but not biological, variable.
‘While we argue phasing out racial terminology in the biological sciences, we also acknowledge that using race as a political or social category to study racism, although filled with lots of challenges, remains necessary given our need to understand how structural inequities and discrimination produce health disparities between groups’, Yudell said.”
Absolute bugger, bollocks, and balls.
Did this come from a Berkeley intro lecture in 2022?
Science can only double-talk its way so far, then things don’t make sense…which is ironically antithetical to its entire stated purpose.
The reasoning is just as circular and self-incriminating as the prevailing “scholarly” anti-racist writers (which I’ve read, just so I can see what they’re actually trying to say and how it is then used in other ways based on the same logic)…all they do is keep claiming the same points again and again, almost always without merit. Anecdotal truths, so to speak. As you noted above, repetition is the key. Keep stating that A is fundamentally true, and after a while the student won’t even consider the possibility of B. And here you are doing it.
I don’t really even have a dog in this race (no pun intended) as I don’t give a shit, but I can smell bullshit, especially from academia. There are so only assumptions laid out above, and their only “evidence” is the lack of an “absolute” difference between people from different “races” and continents. Not that are no differences, they just couldn’t find one “absolute”. And without that one absolute, everything else is apparently wrong.
And yet we’re supposed to believe what Ancestry.com and 23 & Me says. Because science. Errkay. Works one way, but not the other…so who has authority? Those who say they do.
“The authors of the new Science article…” (so maybe Science magazine as one mention/reference)
And I forgot my quoted reference which was from Scientific American:
scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/
But ya, gosh, who to believe…
Someone anonymous online who dabbles in logical fallacy and goes by ‘MrMangoOnMyShoulder’, or the aforementioned?
Quite the dilemma…
As I’ve already said in these threads, there’s more than one way to skin a cat and it is suspected that race, if you want to argue for it, can be skinned along different lines beyond ‘black’ and ‘white’.
So how deep do we want to go down that rabbit hole? If very then for example, ‘black’ and ‘white’ will begin to severely distort. 😉
Mango: You said you bought a house in a Black neighborhood. Was that to prove people like me wrong or because it was cheap? I wonder why it was cheap…. Tell him how that turned out.
I read about a guy who bought a house in rural Appalachia. People used to come and watch him work on it without saying anything. Implacable hostility.
Sure sure but what are Jareks(/etc.)?
What do they look like? How do they walk, talk, sound? What do they eat?
Where are their neighborhoods?
The Jarek(/etc.) neighborhoods.
Do they have any neighborhoods? Or are they being planned as we speak?
…What are their courtship rituals?
How do they mate?
Has it been captured in the wild?
Is it on You Tube yet?
Mankind developed from a genetic source in East Africa then moved out, IMO, due to ethnocentrism created to prevent the buildup of too many people in one area creating a resource crisis. AS hunter gatherers, it worked well, mankind spread all over the world, matter of fact, various strains of man developed and then coalesced into Homo Sapiens who scientists are finding out may be a mutt comprised of many sub-species. Now, as HS spread over the world, various environmental forces caused him to adapt to the areas he was in. Hence, the races.
Questions?
Did the origin Man become Neanderthals, plus other “races’” of man, millennia ago. Did the auld races combine through time, interbreeding and war into Home Sapiens, the mutt.
Did Home Sapiens diverge into various “races” as he spread throughout the world? Did he become specialized according to region? Are Blacks fast and dark skinned as survivors of skin cancer and sunburn and survivors of a lot of lion encounters. Are whites more problem solving and technologically advanced because they had to figure out how to live in a seasonal, cold environment?
Now, advance transportation to the point that all the “races” can mix it up. What happens? Especially what happens when resources start petering out due to insufficiency. Man has always overcome environmental difficulty with his brain and manipulation of the environment. What happens when that no longer works?
Exactly what we are observing!!! Economic and physical warfare, even between the “races” that have mixed it up in an area.
America is an evolutionary experiment. Can “races” from different regions move into North America and create a society?
Are we a repeat of the creation of Homo Sapiens the mutt of prehistory? Is history going to repeat, where the most adaptable survive and create a new Human species? Is that what Revelation might be all about, the evolutionary creation of new man and the destruction of old man.
What will a new man be like? Will ethnocentrism be bred out of his genetics? Will the “Thousand Years” of peace be people that just get along? How long is heavenly thousand years if 4.5 billion years comprises a celestial week?
BTW, if God did the creation in six days and then rested, is He still resting?
@Zazelle, I have to point out that Scientific American has recently also told us that there are not two sexes, that sex is not binary, that it’s time for a gender-free world (whatever that means). They are entirely captured.
It’s well known now, and a few brave souls have said so in public, that failure to recite the narrative on the part of “scientists” brings an abrupt end to grants and to any possibility of a career in science.
Yet some are brave enough to speak out anyway. They are, of course, immediately attacked as “fringe” figures or otherwise untrustworthy – as if the honesty of those who are dependent on big pharma for grant money is, by some curious thought process, not to be questioned.
I’ve read the counter arguments on the Unz site, and suggest you read them as well. I’m not sufficiently well versed to make a determination, but it seems to me that those arguments have merit for various reasons – simple common sense and observation being the most obvious. I also find that they have not been addressed at all by mainstream science, which is replying not with science but with ideology.
I have no interest in any of this except a desire to know the truth. On a personal level, I don’t respond to people based on what group they belong to but on what sort of person they are. If the race to which I belong were proven beyond doubt to be inferior in intelligence to another race, I’d simply accept it; it says nothing about any individual person, so why would I care? I suspect that, as in everything else, there is a hierarchy in this as well.
@Rowdypiglet, the magazine references other work/sources if recalled. It’s just a mag. I could cite tons of other stuff in similar support.
In any case, further along, I concede about what I might rather call ethnicity unless a good argument can be made for calling it race and/or until new offshoots cannot breed with the old anymore, and/or somethings like those.
But my concession is further qualified here and there in the threads with the idea that you can draw somewhat arbitrary lines/categories through many aspects of what makes a human being and then draw parallels in others based on those arbitrary categories. And so you have an explosion of ‘new’ races/categories/ethnicities that don’t necessarily have anything to do with ‘white’ or ‘black’ or ‘brown’.
And that’s probably part of what some scientists and others like me are talking about when they say that race is a social construct.
Creamy Nougat Center Of Oil Addiction
“Israel may be left holding the bag when Biden and company sees the writing on the wall. I doubt if Netanyahu would support 10% for the Big Guy! The clowns in D.C also figured out that we don’t have the assets to fight China, Russia, and the Middle East all at once.
Somebody is going to be disappointed!” ~ BULLITT
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Certainly if Russia’s going to be held hostage via Ukraine, then why not America via Israel?
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Top 10 Biggest Energy-Consuming Countries – Oil (million barrels per day 2019)
United States — 20,543
China — 14,008
India — 4,920
Japan — 3,739
Russia — 3,699
Saudi Arabia — 3,182
Brazil — 3,142
South Korea — 2,599
Germany — 2,346
Canada — 2,303
~ worldpopulationreview.com
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“Saudi Arabia is the world’s largest oil exporter, exporting 14.5% of the world’s oil in 2021, followed by Russia (11.8%)…” ~ Investopedia
US of A is 4% of the population but burns close to 1/4 of the oil. It does so by exporting Monopoly money – for as long as other people will accept it.
Then what?
“Desperate times call for desperate measures.”? ~ Obert Skye(?)
The last two posters are Canadian (as am I). Do I detect that distasteful Canadian attitude (snobbish and hypocritical) of looking down our noses at the U.S., in this case for excessive energy use? Because Canada also uses 5 times the oil relative to their per capita population.
Perhaps we should get off our high horse.
I’m an anarchist and so reject the ‘Canadian’ label.
If you want to call me Terran or Gaian, instead, I can live with that.
My ‘carbon footprint’ in the world’s second-largest open-air prison-State is babyfeet, kind of like that Ryan Reynolds’ character, Deadpool, in the film of the same name, when he was growing his previously-lost limbs back.
Here’s that Deadpool scene I mentioned by the way, in case you’re interested and didn’t see the movie:
youtu.be/ZOXsnyi-9BI?si=Y3gldikfnNX-jwvL
“I’m an anarchist and so reject the ‘Canadian’ label.” — Zaz
I’m a poet and so reject the ‘Canadian’ label. (Sarcastic reply, actually. I reject the conclusion.)
How convenient for you.
BTW, Zaz. Your gish gallop strategy is tiresome, as it is with anyone who uses it. I never click on your links.
Zaz, your numbers are off by a factor of 1,000
Holishit
Under Trump, for a while, the USA was number one. Boy, did Biden crash that in a hurry, so that we can have less CO2, which might cause heat retention, that may cause oceanic and atmospheric warming which may or may not kill us all.
Of such is liberal thinking comprised.
The White Hats needed to let “Joe Biden” fuck it all up. It was the only way to wake y’all up.
Climate and resource-depletion cultists:
What do you think of this Australian EV charging station being powered by a diesel generator?
Mike Sherman (Majella) was particularly angry about some of us driving superior petrol-powered vehicles up thread, perhaps it can also weigh in?
This thing apparently runs 24/7.
https://twitter.com/AllBiteNoBark88/status/1717278049052622866
Muh resource depletion!
Yeah, there ya go. Been ‘doing your own research’ again, Nightie?
As usual, a sliver of truth is then ‘meme’d’ to suit your narrative. You are so fucking dishonest.
Here’s the facts:
youtube.com/watch?v=1q8B_aPprSs
Yesterday, I dide 260 km/h on the Autobahn, Mike.
How does that make you feel?
NO, “Yesterday, I did 260 km/h on the Autobahn, Mike.”
And you still got twice the fuel efficiency that I get in my ’96 Suburban.
Yes, I suspect I may have.
Your knocks on climate crap are great. Resource depletion, you do not understand. This tidbit has zero to do with discounting resource-depletion issues. Every (there are plenty) good “resource depletionist” laughs at everything related to green energy as the b.s. it is. It proves the point, actually, all these “alternative energy sources” actually being garbage.
But don’t let reality interfere with your flow..
As it takes energy to create the renewable sources, plus the fact that those sources provide much less energy per man hour of input, the renewable plans of the world’s idjits are doomed to failure from the beginning.
Toyoda, ex CEO of Toyota, just came out and said it. EVs are doomed, and Hybrids are where the public is going to go. Current stats on the sales of both back him up totally.
Toyota has one weeks of inventory existing of Priuses and two months of the small amount of EVs they are producing.
It boggles my mind how our “leaders” can be so much in denial and so stupid.
Speaking of BRICS++,
Weren’t we?
A fascinating article in the Wall Street Journal, October 18, 2023 by co-authors Brian Spegele and Werxin Fan
In Beijing, Xi and Putin Double Down on Path to New World Order.
Not NWO, WEF style, but NWO BRICS++ style.
It is centered on the advancement of the road and rail initiatives and the increasing ties between Russia and China. China is taking the lead position. 24 countries attended the event celebrating the road and rail success including a rep from Afghanistan. The non- attendees included all the EU.
IMHO, this shows the progress that BRICS++ is making in offsetting the West. Thanks to a reticent USA government, the BRICS++ crowd is making progress in offsetting US world influence. A natural gas pipeline is being built from Russia to China now. Think the US will try to blow that one up?
Ukraine and Israel were mentioned with China staying sorta neutral with Ukraine but supporting the Palestinians in the ME.
Watch Russia getting Ukraine to settle by offering them membership in BRICS++.
Detractors say that the Chinese investments in Road and rail projects are accumulating too much debt. Compared to the West, that is a joke. China, too, is actually doing something with its spending.
The future portends increasing rivalry between the West, WEF, and BRICS++ with the US being the target. Watch the EU and its reaction to the Silk Road advancement.
‘Not NWO, WEF style, but NWO BRICS++ style.’ Yeah John, I think so.
Many nations joining. Looks like replacing the US led world order will come sooner rather than later. In our weakened condition, dramatic shifts seem inevitable.
OG,
Most street pounders out there have no idea what Zionism or Greater Israel is all about. They know that the Jewish folks with little hats have destroyed the news media, the movie industry, provides their kids internet porn, screws them on their 401K’s, charges them outrageous rates on their credit cards, and have the better than you attitude! Many people hate them for their ability to become doctors and lawyers.
This is what I hear, not what I believe! I believe this is an every-son-of-a-bitch for his or herself world!
It’s not the 8th grade picnic out there. It’s a very cruel world.
Some of the sons of bitches realized that in unity there is strength.
One day Obama Sr had a revelation: Individual Blacks could destroy individual Whites very easily. So why were they ruled by Whites? Because the Whites could unite in a way Blacks never thought about doing. What a bombshell!
Now are there groups that united better than Whites? Assuredly! One such “Band of Brothers” have conquered us. This is all that most Whites have ever known. Thus they think it’s normal – and normal is Grate! Others deny it saying, it’s not all of them – as if anyone ever said that or as if such a statement repudiated the premise they didn’t like.
Grate? Is that intentional?
Sorry!
Thought maybe you were using it for effect that I wasn’t getting.
Johnson sponsored the “Stop the Sexualization of Children Act”. That’s good.
He wants to criminalize abortion and impose a nationwide ban. That’s bad, real bad.
“Roe v. Wade gave constitutional cover to the elective killing of unborn children in America,” Johnson said. “We’re all struggling here to cover the bases of Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and all the rest. If we had all those able-bodied workers in the economy, we wouldn’t be going upside down and toppling over like this,” he added.
He’s a slick fuck, but a dumb one also at times. That last line above is a real doozie.
He goes too far with his Christian nationalism. Republicans will lose millions of votes because of positions like these.
Perhaps.
On the other hand, if Johnson ring-leads impeachment for “Joe Biden’s” treason and a legitimate inquiry into the 2020 fixed election (a la Brunson Brothers & SCOTUS), he may very well put the Democrats right out of their misery.
Both dead end streets. Maybe Johnson will pull the Kraken out of his butt?
Been ‘doing your own research’ again
– Mike Sherman
I remember when ‘doing your own research’ was called ‘reading.’
James Howard: Superb analysis of our current position in a barrel approaching the falls. Your prose is untouchable.
JAZ: @ 24 12:13 pm. Israel attacked Egypt 5 June 67. 8 June the (known to Israel) USS Liberty was strafed, bombed, napalmed and had torpedoes just coincidentally hit the exact location of the SSES
(Signals search and exploitation space) I.e.the intelligence gathering room. The Intel collected showed Israel initiated the attack. Can’t have that get out, hence the assault. (The FLASH msg system originated from this event). The Egyptian “ship” said to be mistakenly attacked was rusted to the pier in port said (si eed). I was with a team on a ship with Chief Carl Pleasents, liberty survivor. We conversed as to what went down. (Past knowledge can greatly assist with similar future events!) The above is a recounting of a direct FIRST hand account. Israel paid so sorry money to all dead/wounded aboard.
Malthus @ 23-1:22. Captain McGonagle, USSLiberty skipper, was awarded the MOH at the navy yard DC by the SecNavy. Never done before by anyone other than the President.
OG: GLT is 8. Add if someone thinks Johnson was clean – 0 yes, 1 no then make my score 9.
Hamas cuts off baby’s head=terrorism. IDF bombs off baby’s head =justified. Nuff Said.
P.S. BTB late reading as I had colonoscopy/EGD this morning. So a little slow (very light workout).
Thank you for sharing your GLiT with us, getsome. LBJ was most certainly not clean so I’m recording your score as 9. We have 6 tallies so far:
10 – OG, Jarek, tuco22, Alfred
9 – getsome
1 – Gus
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See? It’s not so difficult to let everyone see your GLiT. Nothing to be ashamed of – shake yer money-maker.
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My hypothesis that there will be many 0s, 1s, 2s, 9s & 10s with hardly any 3s-8s is correct (albeit with a very small sample size).
In his “Down and Out in Paris and London, Orwell recalls being told not to become a physical laborer – it takes to much out of you. You won’t have any eros or life energy left to think with.
But Soul says otherwise. Maybe he is physically gifted? Orwell admitted that his tall and lean physique was not the ideal of the workman.
Of course the above advice to Orwell was taking being an intellectual as the standard. One may have to let that go at times or for a long time in order to survive.
I read that at Harvest time, the peasants of old Lithuania would work hard all day, and then dance under the full moon – the leaping dances. Sleep for a few hours and then do it all again. Could a modern do that – or a child of moderns? Or were such peasants the end product of millenia of evolution enabling them to be good at the life into which they were placed?
The author stated that inactivity of winter was their Achilles heel. They would go into town to drink. Get so drunk they couldn’t walk home. Fall unconscious into the snow and possibly freeze to death.
I think it may be more nature than nurture in that case. And I imagine it would be more difficult for a modern to adapt to an old peasant way of life than vice versa. But who knows. Perhaps the old peasants would be so shocked by modern sedentary life that they would literally be in a state of shock.
Hey SSL, good to see you. Sack time for me. See ya!
Lol, hey tucson! How have you been?
Here are some well-worn responses:
‘Not so good, but thanks for reminding me’.
‘If I was any better, vitamins would be taking me’.
‘Right there between better and best’. Lol
Actually, pretty good, thanks.
I guess that the best city to be down and out in would vary over time. And season.
Where are people the kindest, the cops lenient.
Democratic cities? How about being down and out say in Berlin in the thirties? Or Moscow in February?
I was down and out in NYC back in the sixties and it wasn’t too bad, but maybe I’m romanticizing. You had the parks, subways, and the Port Authority bus terminal. One time I was short for a cup of coffee. Didn’t realize the price had increased, but I wasn’t clubbed or put in jail, thank God.
I wouldn’t choose London, maybe the Dickens’ influence. Scrooge wouldn’t give me a one pence.
Paris could be great. Hemingway said that ‘Paris was a moveable feast’, meaning that you could leave Paris, but Paris wouldn’t leave you.
Yes, the hardy, stout Lithuanians. But many peasants the world over probably cavort in a similar way. The simplicity and joy of the Earth connection, sweat into dirt, the sun making muscles look like chiseled marble.
I remember sleeping on a bench in Carl Schurz Park. Woke up, had a buck or two, got a container of coffee and a couple of chocolate coated cupcakes, went back and watched the sun rising over the East River. Sometimes down and out can be sweet.
” I remember sleeping on a bench in Carl Schurz Park. Woke up, had a buck or two, got a container of coffee and a couple of chocolate coated cupcakes, went back and watched the sun rising over the East River. Sometimes down and out can be sweet. ”
Don’t care to go into it.
But , yes.
Like any job , it is job – specific.
A specific manual labor job can leave you at the end of the work way utterly exhausted , every day.
Another specific manual labor job that is actually physically more demanding , can leave you at the end of the day invigorated.
The exact same white collar job , with a nice boss / mutual liking , can leave you at the end of the work day wanting to go tackle Mount Everest.
Or , with an incompetent / mean boss / boss who hates your guts ,
it is a soul – rending siege that leaves you at the end of the day just wanting to go sit on the couch in a dark room and cry in your beer.
even though they were both the exact same white collar job.
I strongly suspect that feudalism , slavery , and indentured servitude were much the same ;
actually much less about exact conditions ,
more about ambiance and character.
Finally , pretty much like personal relationships ;
If two people like each other the exprience can be Disney Land , even if the actual location is Hell.
If in contrast you don’t have two to Tango , even Disneyland is Hell.
Truly the mind is king. Imagine being able to do that – even if the boss was mean and without an work friends.
Through skillfull means one can be comfortable even in hell – Tibetan proverb
Yama, the Lord of Death, took Yudishera on a tour of hell. Everywhere they went, he saw only smiling people and cheering crowds. He asked Yama, I thought we were going to hell? Yama replied, There can be no hell where you are, Lord – Hindu story
Now give this to Management and HR and they would say, See? There is no need for any reforms. It’s all just negative thinking on the part of empolyees.
Similar to the Buddha as a teen. He lived in a gated city, among wealth, and was constantly puzzled and restless since he never saw sickness or death. He requested from his parents, and received, experience beyond the walls, and woke up (in a relative sense, at that point) to the reality of suffering.
We have drifted our of our Dunbar Number. And therefore, perhaps, drifted into danger.
Tribes of 30 (tribes, that is, of the same race and culture that you scoff at as being unimportant) were ideal in that sense, but because of their fragility (every member had an enormous responsibility, not easily maintained), they were often decimated.
Hence, tribes of 30 were great when the weather, lack of attackers, food availability, etc, was ideal. But, in general, far more dangerous than today’s diffusion of work, infrastructure, and choice of where and when to gather, or who to gather with.
Of course, that could all change if the city grid system goes into place. You’ll likely be down to a plenum of 6 in that scenario.
Love this post.
I just heard that:
1) US had Israel delay their ground invasion of Gaza so that they may be better positioned “for a broader conflict.”
2) USS Eisenhower is not joining the USS Ford in the Med. Sea but is, instead, going through the Suez Canal to position itself in the Persian Gulf. (i.e. “broader conflict” = Iran)
3) The Eisenhower crew were served steak & lobster.
It’s “Go!” time. World War III. The whole enchilada.
What is the significance of the steak & lobster? The enchilada scares me, OG.
Steak & lobster is a treat served to the crew gets on holidays or when headed into action. It was not a holiday.
So you’re saying they are about to get involved in a fight?
That is what my source was saying last night, yes. The USS Eisenhower is going to position itself in the Persian Gulf in preparation for action against Iran.
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“Everyone wants to go to Baghdad. Real men want to go to Tehran.”
– The Bush Doctrine
[Bush the Lesser]
Wow, OG. You have sources!? Very interesting!
It’s one thing to pose for a steak-and-lobster dinner and yet another to make a decisive chess move in a game you can’t win.
Well, ladies and germs;
A contest!
Iran has a nuclear program…has had one for years. Iran certainly has the capability and the resources to produce several nuclear weapons. Considering events currently in their back yard, do you think that Iran has taken the trouble to assemble a few? They said they wouldn’t, but considering future events, do you think they will renege on their promises? Vote one:
Yes, Iran is a reneger!
No, they are honorable!
…What is more important, national honor, or a holy war with the Great Satan?
I vote that they are renegers…they have the bomb, and they will probably use it before the end of the year. In January, my prediction was that in 2023, somewhere, someone, was going to touch one off with bad intent. Odds are looking good….
In this matter , I’m reminded of a scene in the movie , ” Death and the Maiden ” ;
Husband says , ” Put down the gun and we will talk. ”
Wife replies , ” Oooh no , I know the second I put the gun down all discusiion will end. ”
Or , what the North Korean Ambassor to the UN supposedly said in reply to the U.S. assertion that if North Korea got rid of its Nukes the United States would play nice.
Something like , You must think we are stupid ? Or suicidal ? The only reason you will play nice with us is because we have Nukes.
In fact ever since I heard of Stuxnet and the Iranian nuclear program I have prayed every day that Iran will see the light of reason and will secure nuclear weapons as soon as they can , how ever they can.
Likewise that North Korea , India , Pakistan , even China and Russia will see that an expansion of the nuclear club is the best break against U.S. aggression , the best bet for something like fair dealing from the U.S. ,
and will thus aid Iran in securing Nukes surreptitiously however they can.
In my perception , the U.S. has never dealt fairly and above – board with Iran.
In my perception they even screwed the Shah while pretending to be his friend.
( I will , however , never forget Jimmy Carter ignoring the consequences and giving the Shah sanctuary . If the Shah had been forced to go back to Iran he was a dead man. Everybody knew that.
Never say Jimmy Carter didn’t do something good. )
I’m not Nostradamus , I can’t claim to see the future ,
but I’m inclined to doubt that Iran wants to blow the world to kingdom come.
It had the perfect excuse and justification when its scientists , its citizens , were murdered by a foreign power.
And everybody knows ( whether it is technically true in a particular case or not )
that when Israel fires a gun it is the U.S. behind the trigger.
As I understand it , thats why Osama Bin Laden was always bent on attacking the U.S. , not Israel.
Go to the source.
There is no Iran for us without Russia. If you say “Iran” you are saying Russia – whether you know it or not.
Don’t make Putin send the Chechens into Gaza as neutral(!) peace keepers. Kadryov already volunteered…..
You want to hand out nukes to everybody ?!
Joe Biden with nukes is safe ?
” What is my prize if I am correct on this seemingly impossible prediction? ”
— OG
Fun !!
Elysianfield sets up a Patreon , and we all put in a hundred bucks .
If OG is proven right , he gets an hour or so , or a day , with a top – drawer Call Girl , depending on how much was collected.
If OG is proven wrong , Elsianfield buys him a felt hat to eat. Since OG’s sister is a Mountie , a Smokey Bear Hat might be appropriate.
The rest of the money Elysianfield uses himself for a top – drawer Call Girl , with the provision that he gives us a not – X – rated , but detailed report , on how he spent the money / spent the day.
A worthy / fun investment either way.
If there are any moral objections / worries about STD’s ,
no Call Girl objects to a platonic date unless she is a bitch anyway.
— and in the wrong occupation anyway.
Haha.
Speaking of that , in Japan I hear they have this service where some cute girl sends you birthday cards and such , and daily messages like , ” Have a really wonderful day sweetheart ! ”
With that in mind ,
when folks go , ” Ha Ha , Ha , Jarek doesn’t have / can’t get a girlfriend ! ”
He just needs to get creative with it ,
and reply something like ,
” Meh , that’s what CFN is. 😛 “
“when folks go , ” Ha Ha , Ha , Jarek doesn’t have / can’t get a girlfriend ! ””
u gonna take one for the team KesaAnna?
hehe
Kesa and I are Platonic lovers. I’m building a harem….
I need to clarify a few things (in no particular order):
My cousin is a mountie while my sister works at the mountie depot in a civilian office job.
My gf would never abide with me being involved in such a contest – and I don’t blame her!
If I were to lose (i.e. DJT in not POTUS on March 5), then I’m taking “eat my hat” metaphorically (i.e. just like eating crow).
If that fails, I plan on fashioning a chapeau out of beef jerky.
What do you think of the Mounties? I’ve heard many bad things….
Thankfully I’ve never had much to do with the Mounties. I’ve lived in cities with city PDs while RCMP detachments are scattered in small towns to police the endless rural areas and reservations.
My sister administrates their benefits plan and has often commented on how difficult they are to work for/with.
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In the summer of 1982, I was thrown into the back of an RCMP cruiser in Fort Qu’appelle, Sask. just as my two microdots were kicking in. That was not fun. I was only 17 y.o. and the Mountie was talking to me but his head was rolling like the waves on a beach. That seems an unfair interrogation method to me.
The Mounties make the city police departments look good, which is saying something.
Kesa,
Thank you for the kind offer. I fear, however, that, even if I win, there would not be enough money remaining to afford even a “middle shelf” Call Girl…maybe, however, one as comely as Janet Yellen?
And I hope she is a good conversationalist, as conversation is all I have to offer.
Yikes! I just had an image of Janet Reno being exhumed for the prize.
” Maybe that doctor what’s-his-name– Mengel?– would have experimented on you. ”
— Zaz
Lol , the German Doctor is one of my very favorite movies
( in Spanish though )
youtube.com/watch?v=UXoDRYssssE
The last one – third of the movie sucks . They flatly contradict their own assertions to paint an evil man as a super , super , super evil man .
But the first two – thirds of the movie are great , for me.
He and I share the same birthday , and in an Astrological school of thought that makes us something like twins.
The first two – thirds of the movie qualifies as an alternate reality where Mengele and I get to be buddies.
Good old days and happy times.
The movie primarily revolves around Mengele and a little girl he meets in Uraguay ? Paraguay ?
He mistakes her for nine or ten years old , but she is actually 12.
She is very small for her age.
He explains to her mother that he carried out some experiments back in Germany to make runt cattle bigger , and had some success , and these treatments might have some success with her.
So , with her consent , and her mothers consent , her gives her these treatments to make her taller.
She does get taller , and does not wind up dead or maimed.
Through all this She and Mengele become something like friends , often hanging out together.
He is an isolated expatriate fugitive , and on account of her size and mixed origin other kids of the primarily German expatriate community scorn her.
She is part German , but also part native – whatever , so Mengele considers her inferior , but likes her anyway.
Another interesting wrinkle is that though he is living under an assumed name , the expatriate German community knows who he is.
The girl and her mother know who he is.
Kesa Anna’s version of a Hallmark Channel Romance. 🙂
That’s brilliant. I wish that I could write fiction. I’ve tried … but nothing …
You’re such an odd birdie Kesa lol
One is reminded of little girl Kesa – a little Mariah Carey who is friends with Hitler. One days she goes up to her friend and whispers something in his ear – but what?
“You suck”.
How could you say that to Uncle Adolph, Kesa?
Here I was getting all envious because Night Owl gets a cool beans nick – name like ” Spuds ” .
How could I forget that I’m , ” Little Mariah Carey. ” ? 🙂
Hey , what is this GLT ?
I suspect ahead of time I would flunk.
My default asumption is people are not omniscient or omnipresent , and their resume never turns out to be as superlative as they claim.
I think if I hear one more time that Albert Einstein walked on water I’m going to throw up.
He may have been a great physicist.
Otherwise , he was an asshole , and outside of his area of expertise and money , he was fucking boring too.
I’m guessing this GLT thing would say I’m an establishment person ?
If so , pfft ! It’s a fucking miracle I’m not in prison on account of some trumped – up excuse.
“Hey , what is this GLT ?”
sounds like a type of sandwich
It might stand for Good Lovin’ Tender.
Gerbil, Lettuce, & Tomato?
It was GLT. It has been changed to one-syllable: GLiT.
Gullibility Litmus Test
Nevertheless, I hear Gerbil is very tasty. Trouble is, it takes two or three of the little buggers to make a decent sandwich.
GLiT:
For each of these 10 big historical events, score a 1 if you believe that it was a black op and a 0 if you believe the official story.
JFK ~ 1963
USS Liberty ~ 1967
MLK ~ 1968
RFK ~ 1968
OKC ~ 1995
9/11 ~ 2001
7/7 London Subway Bombings ~ 2005
’08 Crash/Housing Bubble/Hank-Paulson Treasury Looting ~ 2008
Boston Marathon ~ 2013
Vegas Turkey-Shoot ~ 2017
What is your score?
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We currently have six public GLiTs:
10 – OG, Jarek, tuco22, Alfred
9 – getsome
1 – Gus
A series of well-known conspiracies that OG lists and presents as his own work by calling it a test.
It is so complex and well thought out that it even involves counting from one to ten.
Truly powerful stuff.
You laugh at simplicity of design and execution? You are a silly little man.
Yes, I laugh at it.
Well … if the only critique that you have of the GLiT is that it is really easy to administer and dirt-simple to tabulate, then it has achieved its goals.
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What sort of bizarre criteria values that the more complexity in a Sociological test’s administration and result-tabulation, the better?
That is the most counter-productive “thought” that I have read in a long, long time.
You are like MaryQueen or HustledEnough, Zilch. Once you have an enemy [MQ me; HE Putin], you emotionally “think” that they are 100% wrong 100% of the time.
That, of course, is stupid and Sun Tzu spins in his grave.
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I like the example that the Big Kahuna used recently to illustrate Zilcher’s flawed logic:
If Adolf Hitler said that 2 + 2 = 4 and if Hitler is always wrong, then we’ve sacrificed mathematics!
You don’t even know how stupid you are or how you look.
😀
“Your thesis begs for real world examples. I have a few;
Haiti
Somalia,
Life in Prisons…everywhere.” ~ elysianfield
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You’re kind of supporting my ‘thesis’, though, as all can be viewed as State-related failures of various sorts.
As per my aforementioned explanation in previous threads a month or so ago, on omitting the State lynchpin/keystone that is the police without a suitable/effective replacement or scaffolding, a sudden loss of the State, especially without any safeguards (‘crashmats’) and/or alternative social structures in place, produces or can produce a ‘chaotic structural vacuum’.
Further to my ethical/moral, smaller-scale case for anarchy and against the fundamental ethical/moral bankruptcy of the State, we also have this related quote that I’ve also posted here before:
“The ‘iron law of oligarchy’ states that all forms of organization, regardless of how democratic they may be at the start, will eventually and inevitably develop oligarchic tendencies, thus making true democracy practically and theoretically impossible, especially in large groups and complex organizations. The relative structural fluidity in a small-scale democracy succumbs to ‘social viscosity’ in a large-scale organization. According to the ‘iron law’, democracy and large-scale organization are incompatible.” ~ Wikipedia
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But wait, there’s more:
Human and nature dynamics (HANDY): Modeling inequality and use of resources in the collapse or sustainability of societies
“In this paper, we build a human population dynamics model by adding accumulated wealth and economic inequality to a predator–prey model of humans and nature. The model structure, and simulated scenarios that offer significant implications, are explained. Four equations describe the evolution of Elites, Commoners, Nature, and Wealth. The model shows Economic Stratification or Ecological Strain can independently lead to collapse, in agreement with the historical record.
In sum, the results of our experiments, discussed in Section 6, indicate that either one of the two features apparent in historical societal collapses – over-exploitation of natural resources and strong economic stratification – can independently result in a complete collapse. Given economic stratification, collapse is very difficult to avoid and requires major policy changes, including major reductions in inequality and population growth rates. Even in the absence of economic stratification, collapse can still occur if depletion per capita is too high. However, collapse can be avoided and population can reach equilibrium if the per capita rate of depletion of nature is reduced to a sustainable level, and if resources are distributed in a reasonably equitable fashion.” ~ Safa Motesharrei, Jorge Rivas, Eugenia Kalnay, Sciencedirect
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As I’ve also said many times before, both on this site and elsewhere, is that, either way, I’ll get my anarchy (at least certainly much closer to it):
I’ll get it by the decline and/or collapse of the State and, after the dust settles, likely back to smaller scales and more anarchic setups or I’ll get it by a very serious and fast restructuring of the State that’s far closer to pure/direct democracy and therefore anarchic principles.
State governments, at least some of them, are probably well-aware of the above and related studies which is possibly why we hear so much these days about Build Back Better, The Great Reset, equity, rainbows, BLM and so forth.
But so far, a lot of it is glaringly token at best, to put it mildly.
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So, ya, again, have the ethical/moral modus operandi of many of the State governments shift dramatically or get relative anarchy, if you’re lucky, the hard way.
It’s the law! ^u’
Zaz,
You may get your anarchy…but you won’t like it. The argument is not whether or not anarchy exists, but if it is a viable concept in the framework of human endeavor….
It ain’t. But, at least you have stepped up and given us a concrete example of anarchy in viable practice;
Some village/tribal/mud hut with thatched-roof-Wakanda-esque-non-scalable fevered wet dream.
Thank God that we now have your thesis settled…
I remain;
In my place
I have only one final question…”Do you own a weed whacker”?
elysianfield, nothing much, at least along the lines of what we are discussing, is ‘pure’, including anarchy.
But we have had it in different purities for aeons, so it’s already viable. It’s a time-tested proven concept, unlike the current State system.
That some, including you, may find it hard to imagine the forms it can take really says little, if anything, about it.
It’s a little like trying to imagine the forks and forms humans or other species will evolve into in the aeons coming…
In our case, this is assuming we survive the State, that is in fundamental cognitive dissonance to how we are as an anarchic species.
Apart from a spiritual culture and tribal law and tradition, it will end as Jonestown.
Former Peoples Temple Members and their supporters / sympathizers spinning the story.
Peoples Temple was a miniature totalitarian state. No question about it.
To point out just one detail that should occur to one if they study it ,
then think about it , and then use common sense ;
Jim Jones wasn’t leading 1000 – 2000 people around by the nose all by himself.
Peoples Temple had an SS , they just didn’t call it that.
In true spiritual cultures, the Leader is also under the Law. Warren Jep broke up marriages if disappointed in a man. Just took their wife away from them. Cult. Mohammad did it at least once when he saw a women naked and said, Surely you are able to move the hearts of men. The husband was terrified and divorced her. He didn’t want to come between Mohammad and someone he wanted.
Jones was utterly lawless. As was Franklin Jones, aka Bubba Free John.
Well we have a bit of an anarchic model that seems to work and work well in peer-to-peer free/libre open source software, maybe even hardware too, now that I think about it.
We already have gift economies, ecovillages and intentional communities– all fundamentally anarchic in nature.
Different members of a species are going to fork themselves differently and in different directions and so forth and bloom into completely different species over time where they survive.
That’s what evolution is all about.
And it’s not limited to biology.
“We already have gift economies, ecovillages and intentional communities– all fundamentally anarchic in nature.” – Zaz
None of that even remotely scales.
And even they break down because of infighting and power plays.
LOL! This gets better by the post. Anarchy FTW!
Permanent Cuture
What will end like that? Your notions of what’s possible? But you don’t represent everyone. In a sense, you are a different species.
Within certain limits, an anarchistic society can probably be as complex and as high-tech as desired, complete with space travel, and should also be able to better withstand internal and external pressures and long outlast current State-based systems.
That’s what permaculturists are in part interested in; a certain level of permanence; a civ that doesn’t keep collapsing, such as due to inequities, corruption and resource mismanagement and so on.
Note to self: Log on later to permaculture global’s site and pose some questions about anarchy and/or at least if all permies are anarchists. Maybe bring back the results to CFN.
Anarchy in space. LOL!
The thing is Zaz, Anarchism has a track record we can examine. It goes back 150 years. Unfortunately it is violent & blood soaked; the cause of much suffering, with very little to show for your efforts except a lot of dead bodies & debris from various explosions.
That’s your Anarchist Utopia.
The supposed anarchists that you like to illustrate may not have been cut out for anarchy, or the forms they attempted. Perhaps they would have made better Statists.
I concede that not everything I understand or can do you’re going to understand or be able to do, or as well as I, and vice-versa.
That will necessarily include how we see human potential and how we leverage it.
But that’s normal, a normal part of a species, its individuals and collectives, working out various sorts of survival and evolutionary problems and strategies.
They’ll be as varied as life, itself.
“They did it wrong!”, BRH.
That’s the mantra re Communism OR anarchism.
More gish galloping from Zaz.
Fuck off with your Wikipedia walls.
To all the pro-Israelis,
If you claim to have an open-mind, then give Max Igan 10 minutes of your time to consider the footage that he shows us.
I’m only 10 minutes into it myself as I paused to post this link to you.
bitchuteXcom/video/t5tj72mLJZA7/
Give it the full 10 minutes. The 10th minute is the most critical. It was what made me pause and type this post to you.
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Maybe we can exchange links. Has any footage yet surfaced of the (rumoured) 40 beheaded Israeli babies from 10/7 when fifteen (15) holes big enough for terrorists on dirtbikes were breached into the most secured and surveilled border on earth while gaggles of paragliders gently flocked above – all undetected, mind you – to commit their heinous acts that now has Israel blue-printing plans for 15-MinuteCity on the Mediterranean?
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Note: I am not anti-Israeli. I am pro-truth.
I am now 49 minutes in. It is very powerful footage contrasting life in Tel Aviv vis-à-vis Gaza.
Max brings up a good point starting at 49:00. He shows footage of the 10/7 “paragliders” but they are not. They are parachuters. And Hamas has no airplanes!
The official story of 10/7 is complete bull shit.
10/7 like 9/11 and whatever date Lahaina was, will live in infamy. This is their modus operandi, the Big Lie to get their golem the United States into wars.
At least this time they’re going to have do some of it themselves. The return blow from Iran will be terrible. If they begin to defeat Iran and Hezbollah, the other Muslims nations will go in and Russia too.
Then it will be Armageddon, because if Israelis perceive they are being overrun & pushed into the Mediterranean Sea, they will deploy their nukes.
They jumped from the paraglider trikes. One passenger can ride on each trike. They are rear engine and very slow, so easy to jump from. Pilot lands, picks up a hostage, and flies back into Gaza. The pilot drops off the hostage and loads up another fighter and repeats the process…
@Anthea
“Real farming is endlessly fascinating”
What is real farming? Does it include the full array of hydrocarbon machinery? Does it include a stable of slaves for the heavy-lifting tasks? Perhaps a stable of slave-children sired by the farmer?
Nature is endlessly fascinating. Agriculture can include much of this fascination at times, but I will maintain sustainable hunter-gatherers enjoyed deeper and more fascinating relationships with nature than any farmer ever.
“I don’t know, but it seems to me that a person who is not in love with plants and animals is not quite right in the head.”
True that. Again, hunter/gatherers win.
The aim of any species is to go forth and procreate, Gus.
I heart farmers.
These people (Christians?, normies, humans generally) love to spout about human superiority all the time… until tge moment it’s inconvenient..
Then it’s, “We’re just a humble species like any other! We can’t help but procreate whenever the slimmest of fleeting opportunities arises, damn the consequences! We’re just humbly following orders (go forth and multiply) anyways!”
fukin typos, sorry
lol, you’re forgiven.
Three subjects to always take with a HUGE grain of salt ;
— what folks think of children
— money
— sex.
On that last one , at least once a week in some connection I hear someone claim some variation of , ” I couldn’t help myself. ”
And of course I want to reply , ” Why isn’t that a valid excuse for rapists then ? ”
” Christians?, normies, humans generally) love to spout about human superiority all the time … ”
I just love the old , ” I would like to thank God for making me a major league baseball pitcher. ”
How come you never hear anyone say , ” I would like to thank God for getting me shafted and sent to prison .” ?
— Except Alexsandyr Solzhenitsyn DID write that , which is one reason I liked him so much.
I don’t get much out of this post except name calling.
What gives you or anyone the moral authority to reduce the population, either through murder or planned pregnancies?
You would appear to believe morals have no place in society, and that we should just do whatever we deem rational. I can think of quite a few scenarios in which you might not agree with your own views.
No one is going to force population reduction on anyone (except maybe the WEF). It’s merely an argument that it would be the superior choice collectively at this moment in history.
(Of course, if it were a policy, some people would be forced, but it would require 75% of the pop convinced of the desirability of the program, or something, to be doable. Which will never happen… which is why I say, “No one is going to force pop reduction on anyone, except maybe the WEF.”)
I am not asking who is going to force it; I am referring to the fact that you support it openly.
Well, your morality is childish, which is why you are put-off.
You openly support depopulation, making you a ghoul.
There is no population problem. De-pop agenda is evil and anti Human.
@Gustafson, I remain perplexed by your hunter/gatherer obsession. In particular, I’m baffled by your designation as “slave” anything that a farmer makes use of. In your ideal hunter/gatherer society, is fire a slave? Is a bow and arrow a slave? A rock? A flint? It seems to me that they are, by your definition.
In this ideal society, there are certainly no speculative discussions of the kind you seem to be agreeably participating in here. There is no intellectual life of any kind, no ideas being tossed around, no BOOKS (this alone is enough for me to consider such a culture as a hell on earth). There is no invention or, if there is, it must either be crushed or ultimately result in . . . agriculture.
You’re reminding me of Michael Rockefeller, who also idealized a primitive culture which made a meal of him – as they would doubtless make of you.
At least I’m not boring you too horribly, Rowdy.
“Is a bow and arrow a slave? A rock? A flint? It seems to me that they are, by your definition.”
Sure, but the “enslavement” is at a degree that works. It’s a matter of degree. It’s actually a matter closely tied to the total amount of chemical energy acquired by the “enslavement,” lower being better until under the limit of the mean, the sustainable range.
“Slavery” is a word for humans usurping the energy of other humans by force. It’s considered repugnant, in my opinion, primarily because it doesn’t work longterm. It becomes either a management nightmare, a cause of malaise, or a source of violence and dissolution, socially.
“Enslavement”of hydrocarbon energy, or any other high-energy-input source doesn’t work longterm either. The source runs out, or tge energy input into the system is so high that it degrades the system over time. Either way, when the train derails, all dependent (now large) populations are abandoned out on that limb.
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“There is no intellectual life of any kind, no ideas being tossed around, no BOOKS (this alone is enough for me to consider such a culture as a hell on earth). There is no invention or, if there is, it must either be crushed or ultimately result in . . . agriculture.”
None of this is true at all, except the books part maybe. Not even that would necessarily be set in stone. Maybe an oral tradition (which we have no experience of) would be superior to books. Probably.
Plenty culture and invention, just within different boundaries.
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“which made a meal of him – as they would doubtless make of you.”
They will make a meal of all of us. (We will become them.)
No, you’re not boring me, but you continue to perplex me. I’m sure there’s some value in that.
I think you’re assuming that everything humans do that they benefit from only indirectly constitutes slavery. If I make myself a bow and arrow and kill animals for food, I am (perhaps) not a slave (although the bow and arrow are themselves my slaves). But if I work on an oil rig for a salary, which salary also allows me to use the products I produce, I am a slave. This doesn’t take into account the fact that most people are perfectly willing to do work of some kind in order to maintain their way of life – so, without the unwilling aspect, I don’t see how that makes them slaves.
Although I think oral traditions are of great value, they’re dependent on too many factors for survival and are simply too limited. The ability to pass on knowledge in a potentially more permanent form is probably the most worthwhile activity humans have ever devised. I don’t see any of the riches of a single great library in the cultures you’ve mentioned. I did read Colin Turnbull, but it’s been years. I may revisit, but I remember being appalled.
I’ll agree with you that the whole thing is ultimately unsustainable, so these periodic collapses are built into it. Nature used to cull us, but we’ve become just smart enough to outwit Nature until she figures out new and different ways to cull us. I think we can see some of those new methods appearing as a tentative proof of concept right now.
One good thing about Turnbull is, he didn’t get eaten. Jared Diamond either, down in headhunter-central, even..
“The ability to pass on knowledge in a potentially more permanent form is probably the most worthwhile activity humans have ever devised.”
What is the great fruit of all this recorded knowledge? I’m not seeing it.
Also, regarding oral traditions.. human minds and biology are more durable than paper or ink or server-hardware, I’d say.
The Ancient Greeks debated on the introduction of writing from the Levant: It will destroy human memory. And so it did.
Men used to memorize the entire Odyssey in order to recite it.
We’ve gained much but we’ve lost much too.
@gustafson,
“What is the great fruit of all this recorded knowledge? I’m not seeing it.”
Honestly? You don’t see anything of value in the entire history of civilisation? Art, architecture, philosophy, music, poetry? Leonardo da Vinci? Mozart? Canterbury Cathedral? Shakespeare? Beethoven? War and Peace? Pride and Prejudice? Great Expectations? Saint Paul’s? The Chrysler Building? Rhapsody in Blue? Handel’s Messiah? Keats? Blake? Wordsworth? I’m just tossing these out, but I could go on for a few hours. These are the fruits of civilisation, made possible by building on what has come before. You find nothing of value here? You would really prefer to sit and shoot the breeze about the morning’s hunting, dressed in leaves, picking lice out of one another’s hair, listening to the “music” of a crude wooden flute at best? I despair.
“Also, regarding oral traditions.. human minds and biology are more durable than paper or ink or server-hardware, I’d say.”
The Dead Sea Scrolls proved to be pretty durable, which is why we can read them now. I don’t notice anyone reciting them from memory. Human minds and biology are useless when the culture of which they were part ceases to exist – and inevitably it does so. No action is required for books to continue to exist except to simply leave them be – as often happens. I agree with Jarek that it’s a great shame we have lost the skills that allowed some to carry a culture within themselves; I wish we could have kept this and books as well. But the fact is that we know of the Odyssey and the Iliad because they were written down; no one is alive now who memorized them. I think that speaks for itself.
There’s some value in the fruits of this whopper of a civilizational period. Especially Astrophysics, probably. (I don’t think the fundamentals of astrophysics will ever be lost. Not all the specifics, but the real takeaways of the story.)
But, in general, the achievements of civilizations are vastly overvalued, and the achievements of “primitives” vastly undervalued.
For instance, the opportunity for all to engage in arts, not just a handful who make it to court-patronage and eventually entertain the fieldworkers and serfs, and the royalty.
Arts more egalitarian, truly collective and vital.
And when the life is the art, addiction to substitutes for life itself is less desired.
So many words expended to arrive at what has been clear about Gus for quite some time.
He hates people and wants them dead.
“For instance, the opportunity for all to engage in arts, not just a handful who make it to court-patronage and eventually entertain the fieldworkers and serfs, and the royalty.
Arts more egalitarian, truly collective and vital.” — Gus
Your latest posts astound me, Gus. I search for irony and find none.
What you’re championing in your quote above is not Art, it’s entertainment. Nothing wrong with that, but let’s get our categories straight. And we have plenty of great entertainment today as it is. And no, I’m not talking about the Kardashians or Justin Bieber.
Art exploded with the invention of Gutenberg’s printing press. All of us, including you, owe an eternal debt of gratitude to the man.
Unlike Jarek’s “men used to recite the entire Odyssey” claim (survivorship of work bias, and a pale approximation of the original work, at best), the existence of a permanent repository of Art, whether in words, or in painting, by better and lasting materials, has paved the way for civilization, even though you denigrate civilization at every turn.
Aside from Art, this transfers as well to geometry and algebra and its progeny in engineering.
I could fill up this space at much greater length, but the point is made.
Looks like there are some staunch and dug-in civilization fans here. It isn’t a full repudiation of the historical period to say the prehistorical was superior.
It would help some folks, to realize that the entire “historical period”—from 10,000 BC to the present—could very accurately be labeled: “The Story of Liberalism” or “The Human Experiment with Liberalism.”
GusBob, It seems you are saying that humans should have collectively agreed not to advance beyond some specific technological landmark. Or, having obviously failed at that, to recognize our mistake and head back to where we were before we crossed that line.
I read that the Australian aborigines agreed way back at the beginning of time, not to make use of anything that didn’t exist in the Dreamtime. And then you have the Amish.
Where would you draw the line? Before stitchin’ skins together for clothes, I assume? Because clothing makes you a slave to clothing – unless you’re Wim Hof. Probably before hunting with dogs – that really kicked our cerebral development into high gear. GusBob at camp: “Hey, I said don’t feed ’em!”
Kinda like askin’ us to leave the ’66 ‘Vette in the garage, and instead just sit inside and make engine sounds. No, you’d use it like a burrow wouldn’t you? Chew up the seats and haul in a bunch of shredded books to curl up in during those cold winter nights.
Takin’ that big brain out on the road, stompin’ on the gas pedal and seein’ where it gets us is what makes us human. It’s what we have to do even if it kills us.
It’s a shame that we lost so much – connection to the Earth, stuff like that – on our way up the mountain. And it’ll be ironic if we outsmart ourselves and jump before we really learned to fly, but ya gotta admit, it’s been an interesting trip.
The alternative? Forty thousand years of obsessive bone-burning (to keep them away from wolves, to keep wolves from becoming dogs…). Yup, bet that would get us to a good place.
But good luck on your quest to return to the Garden.
You’re spending a lot of time and energy on this blasted, new-fangled computer thingy, Gus.
Blackbird,
You bring up a very interesting topic.
D.H. Lawrence, in his criticism of Melville’s Typee and Omoo , says that Melville romanticized the Polynesians, that it was a mistake for the Whites, with their advanced technology and knowledge, to have missed their chance.
But Lawrence saw that as impossible. Once we have that knowledge, it’s written into our DNA. We can’t go back even if we wanted to.
“Takin’ that big brain out on the road, stompin’ on the gas pedal and seein’ where it gets us is what makes us human. It’s what we have to do even if it kills us.”
Debatable, what makes us human, but ’66 Corvettes and adrenaline-junkie cultural suicides are not high on any worthy list.
Or dogs.
Also debatable, the bigness of the brain in question.
“…I will maintain sustainable hunter-gatherers enjoyed deeper and more fascinating relationships with nature than any farmer ever.”
ROFL! A city slicker telling Farmers what’s what…HILARIOUS!
This was obviously written by someone who has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Do you hunt Gustya? What do you hunt? What do you gather? Do you go mushrooming on weekends?
WTF do you know about farming? HAHAHAHA, yer jokes are fun knee! Gustya says ” I raised 5 tomato plants in my sunroom! I is farmering!” LOL
Oh look, another big brain.
Good morning 🙂
I hope your day is totally amazing lol
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Hey !! How did you get that heart in there ?!
I learned to code 😉
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Test of hearts (copy-paste): ?. ?
A must must must read concerning the bombings in Gaza and the actual lives, and deaths, of Palestinians, mostly women and children:
httpZ://www.nplusonemag.com/online-only/no-human-being-can-exist
I feel sorry for the Palestinian people, especially the women and children. I felt sorry for those people who lost women and children and family during 911. I feel sorry for those in Ukraine who lost family.
Do you see the common denominator? These people like the people of the United States permitted the Government to get them into a losing scenario and THEY DIDN’T DO A THING ABOUT IT!! WWIII will come to the USA not because of women and children decided to attack another Country, it’s the voters or non-voters who bring it upon themselves. Those who voted for free stuff always lose control of the government. They are being used by those who are control freaks!
We better start feeling sorry for America. All these nice things we have can easily be taken away by those who want to control you. They are not your friends.
We better start getting serious and start asking what the hell is going on!
I generally find that Americans are always far more concerned about the tribulations of people in far off countries than the tribulations their neighbors are enduring next door. From what I gather, when Americans are experiencing similar atrocities to what is now occurring in Gaza or Ukraine most of the world will either celebrate openly or at least smile. And for sure, nobody is coming to help.
Americans think whatever Lester Holt tells them to think.
Americans are in for a severe splash of cold water to the face.
Lol, Lester Holt.
Thankfully i’ve been deprogrammed. Just not in the way Hillary Clinton meant.
What would really happen if Mexico started lobbing missiles into Texas, Arizona and New Mexico saying it wanted its land back that Santa Ana had no right to sell to us? After all, it was Mexican before it was American.
Do you think that we would just say “Here you are” as so many want the Israelis to do? Especially if the Mexicans did it over and over for 75 years? And especially when the UN said so.
Corollary
He who carries the biggest stick, makes the rules.
America is just cutting off portions of that big stick.
The slave is only noble when he rebels – Nietzsche
By that metric, the Palestinians are very noble indeed. Harold Covington admired them tremendously. People would accuse him of thinking they were higher than Whites.
He said, No, I think we have a higher potential. But they are living much closer to their potential than we are. That makes them better men than we are, unless and until we reform ourselves.
The first American movie I recall ever seeing was The Alamo.
I don’t know why they showed it in East Germany ?
I’m GUESSING that from an East German perspective it actually shows unwittingly what two – faced , perfidious , racist , imperialist scumbags Americans are ?
And that’s how I took it.
I was cheering for the Mexicans.
Also , their uniforms were gorgeous.
youtube.com/watch?v=9QKkvDN7l7I
Por Dios y por México !
Except there were no Americans involved in the battle of the Alamo. Texas was a rebellious state of the republic of Mexico.
Probably half of the government might say “here ya go”?
@SoftStarLight, C. S. Lewis addressed this inclination in one of my favorite quotes:
““The great thing is to direct the malice to his immediate neighbours whom he meets every day and to thrust his benevolence out to the remote circumference, to people he does not know. The malice thus becomes wholly real and the benevolence largely imaginary. “
Very interesting. Human behavior can be so radically weird!
I saw a poll yesterday that said 63% of the Palestinian people support the Hamas movement.
Maybe that poll needs to be run again now?
Otherwise, 63% of the Palestinians are getting what they signed up for, regardless of the right and wrong of it.
Well, I’m back. I had the most horrific colonoscopy. I’m sure no one wants to hear the details of my digestive tract, but bottom line, I’m ok.
Since I was out of commission for a few days, I’ve fallen behind (I now hate to use that word – behind. Lol) and have to catch up with the chores I would have done, so I’ll post what’s been on my mind later.
Welcome back, Bill! Glad to hear you are doing well and that awful experience is behind you now!
Glad to hear you survived an encounter with what passes as a healthcare system.
Good job.
I have lost count of the number of times there was an oops and internal bleeding.
Don’t know what the actual odds are on that , but it sounds to me like taking a flight on a hydrogen – filled Dirigible. ; Hey , perfectly safe 90% of the time …..
You had it done? Someone here said that it sometimes results in a visit to the emergency room as shit leaks into the stomach. Oops, our bad!
” You had it done? ”
Yes , once.
Funny , I cannot remember why.
Memory slipping I suppose.
That happened to my mother , and a few people at Church.
“[…] but bottom line, I’m ok.”
Chortle … 🙂
Glad you survived it intact, anyway.
No colonoscopies for me.. Glad you made it.
Bill,
Describe my colonoscopy? Sorry. Gentlemen do not discuss their sex lives….
” Yeah it ( The Lousiana State House ? ) is pretty cool. The inside is really neat too. The Kingfish ( Huey P Long ) wanted us to have a nice state house. He actually wanted us to have nice everything so they had to get rid of him. ”
— Layla
God bless the great Huey P Long . May we meet again someday in the place where there are none but tears of joy.
When I was in school we went to the Capitol on a field trip one time and they showed us the marks on the wall in one of the lobbies where bullets hit. One of those bullets hit Huey because he wanted to run for President. I remember kinda getting goosebumps when the tour guide was telling us the story. I don’t believe Carl Weiss was a Catholic even though they adamantly say he was.
I think i’m sticking with this one. I always go back and forth on everything never sure exactly lol, but i’ve made up my mind. For now lol.
According to a documentary I saw , Carl Weiss had the largest attendance for the funeral of an assassin in American history.
I don’t know how they determined that , but that’s what they said.
They also said that maybe why his funeral was so well attended was that he was not only a respected member of the community , he was a BELOVED member of the community.
In any case , certainly a bizarre character for an assassin.
Of course , near as I can tell for every person that loved Huey Long , there was a person who hated his fucking guts.
Obviously ( ? ) I’m one of the fans.
Well, everybody loves doctors I suppose. Well pre-covid that was basically true at least.
By the way ,
I like SoftStarLight too.
But that is a lot to type.
And I frigging HATE acronyms .
So I’m going to call you Layla anyways. 😛
Lol cool! Yeah I love it too. But i don’t want to be an acronym so I shall go with it too 😛
” “Why is everyone EXCEPT the Death – to – America girl getting banned ?”
Perhaps you are our Scheherazade – you tell a good story and you’re allowed to live. ”
— GreenAlba
Yay ! Thanks !
“America is an evolutionary experiment. Can “races” from different regions move into North America and create a society?
Are we a repeat of the creation of Homo Sapiens the mutt of prehistory? Is history going to repeat, where the most adaptable survive and create a new Human species? Is that what Revelation might be all about, the evolutionary creation of new man and the destruction of old man.”
-Jarek
Good stuff.
Hmm , the way I hear it , I don’t know if it is true or not , I don’t live on the West Coast ,
there have been more Chinese immigrants the past ten years than Mexican immigrants.
So —
Chinese .
Plus Mexicans
Plus an already existing pronounced authoritarian streak.
Not sure exactly what that would look like racially.
But , otherwise ,
North Korea magnified ten times.
Once again I say that perhaps instead of making jokes about North Korea ,
Americans should start studying North Korea.
Also , as I have pointed out , despite English , the love of the monarchy , Monty Python , and British accents ,
the largest White ethnic origin is German ,
and in my opinion American White culture is more reflective of Germany , than of the UK.
So there is that , too.
Heh , more good news , and lookin on the bright side.
Oh well. 🙂
Uh, not Jarek.
Wow , just found this by accident ,
The Shah of Iran on the subject of Israel .
2 minutes.
youtube.com/watch?v=Ksu5YHK5ZDo
” There is no Iran for us without Russia. If you say “Iran” you are saying Russia ”
— Jarek.
I would hope.
*sigh * As the old saying goes , ” If it sounds too good to be true … ”
But Putin has already surprised me.
So crank it up !
youtube.com/watch?v=HdC39ShxoUo
Russia and China are going to try to quiet things down and shut Iran up.
Why?
Because BRICS++ is winning and winners do not want to make a lot of waves.
Are you sure, JAZ? In UFC, for example, the man winning must “go for the throat” and “finishing off” their opponent ASAP lest “the tables turn.”
It appears like everyone wants war. If everyone wants war, we are liable to have it.
NATO has completely depleted their stock-piles on Putin’s stalemate. The American, UK, German, et al war cupboards are now bare. I wonder if a NATO-draining stalemate was brilliant by Putin while everyone wonders this, that and the other.
That is, perhaps everyone wrongly assumes that Putin wants to win ASAP and, therefore, “He can’t win or he would.” Perhaps stalemate was his motive.
Putin gave the US every opportunity for peace. Then, finally, “OK, mofos. Let’s go.” BRICS big-time. Drain NATO. Ramp up Russian production of all things war. Battle-hardened military. [There is no amount of pushups in Kansas before going to Chili’s can hold a candle to months of combat in the mud against NATO-supplied Ukrainian Nazis.]
Putin is a very clever man.
I dare say smarter, even, than President Potatohead.
Yep.
Tell you why.
Conventional warfare is a non winner anymore for both sides. Ukraine is showing that. The proxy wars are stalemates. Israel is about to show the same thing.
So what is left, tactical nuclear war? No on a bet, strategic nuclear war will follow if one side loses.
Both sides lose, MAD.
So what does BRICS++ do to beat the US? Economics and prestige, propaganda, convince enough folks that the USA is a bad leader of the world, outperform the USA, which under Biden is easy, Impregnate the USA with enough immigrants to change the population demographics, and number one, play it cool so the USA does not realize what is happening or maybe even care.
Go for the throat today means annihilation, Armageddon and all sides know it.
BRICS++ will take it slow and easy, allowing a very stupid European America to destroy itself.
OG, Canada will follow the USA into the toilet, it is happening in your home, also.
Bot Trudeau and Biden are apologists for the America First concept of Trump. That is going to blow up in our mutual faces as BRICS++ uses the apologist BS as propaganda against us.
Right now, the tides are running against the West and I see no solution.
Watch Israel and Iran. If Israel tells the US to take a hike, and takes on Iran by itself, the US will lose much influence everywhere. But get it, that is what Biden wants. I will be surprised if Biden supports Israel if Iran puts out a red line.
Good point, John