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     The so-called Volker Rule for policing (ha!) banking practices, approved by a huddle of federal regulating agency chiefs last week, is the latest joke that America has played on itself in what is becoming the greatest national self-punking exercise in world history.

     First of all (and there’s a lot of all), this rule comes in the form of nearly 1,000 pages of incomprehensible legalese embedded in what was already a morbidly obese Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform (ha!) and Consumer Protection (ha!) Act of 2012 that clocked in at 2000 pages, not counting the immense rafts of mandated interpretations and adumbrations, of which the new Volker Rule is but one. These additions were required because the Dodd-Frank Act itself did not really spell out the particulars of enforcement but rather left it to the regulatory agencies to construct the rules — which they did with “help” of lobbyist-lawyers furnished by the banks themselves. That is, the lobbyists actually wrote the rules for Dodd-Frank and everything in it, which means the banks wrote the rules. Does this strain your credulity? Well, this is the kind of nation we have become: anything goes and nothing matters. There really is no rule of law, just pretense.

     The Volker Rule was a lame gesture toward restoring the heart of the Glass-Steagall provisions of the Banking Act of 1933, which were repealed in 1999 in a cynical effort led by Wall Street uber-grifter Robert Rubin and his sidekick Larry Summers, who served serially as US Treasury Secretaries under Bill Clinton. Glass Steagall was passed in Congress following revelations of gross misconduct among bankers leading up to the stock market crash of 1929. The main thrust of Glass Steagall was to mandate the separation of commercial banking (deposit accounts + lending) from investment banking (underwriting and trading in securities). The idea was to prevent banks from using money in customer deposit accounts to gamble in stocks and other speculative instruments. This rule was designed to work hand-in-hand with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), also created in 1933, to backstop the accounts of ordinary citizens in commercial banks. The initial backstop limits were very modest: $2,500 at inception, and didn’t rise above $40,000 until 1980. Investment banks, on the other hand, were not backstopped at all under Glass-Steagall, since their activities were construed as a form of high-toned gambling.

     The Glass Steagall Act of 1933 was about 35 pages long, written in language that was precise, clear, and succinct. It worked for 66 years. Banking during those years was a pretty boring business, commercial banking especially. It operated on the 3-6-3 principle — pay 3 percent interest on deposits, lend at 6 percent, and be out on the golf course at 3 p.m. Bankers made a nice living but nothing like the obscene racketeering profits engineered by the looting operations of today. Before 1980, the finance sector of the economy was about 5 percent of all activity. Its purpose was to allocate precious capital to new productive ventures.

            As American manufacturing was surrendered to other countries, there were fewer productive ventures for capital to be directed into. What remained was real estate development (a.k.a. suburban sprawl) and finance, which was the enabler of it. Finance ballooned to 40 percent of the US economy and the American landscape got trashed. The computer revolution of the 1990s stimulated tremendous “innovation” in financial activities. Much of that innovation turned out to be new species of swindles and frauds. Now you understand the history of the so-called “housing bubble” and the crash of 2008. The US never recovered from it, and all the rescue attempts in the form of bail-outs, quantitative easing, zero interest rates, have turned into rackets aimed at papering-over this national failure to thrive. It is all ultimately linked to the larger story of industrialism and its relationship with the unique, finite, fossil fuel resources that the human race got cheaply for a few hundred years. That story is now winding down and we refuse to pay attention to the reality of it.

       The absurdity of Dodd-Frank and the Volker Rule in the face of that is just another symptom of that tragic inattention. The baroque prolixity of these statutes must have been fun for the lawyers to construct — thousands of pages of incantatory nonsense aimed at confounding any attempt to enforce decent conduct among bankers and their supposed regulators — but it does nothing to really help us move into the next phase of history.

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  1. Lord Blaby of Lawson December 19, 2013 at 4:18 pm #

    Goldstein was a class act. He published doctored photos of his son having sex with men and his own mother, Goldstein’s third ex-wife, after the son asked him not to attend his graduation from Harvard Law School. He made a “good” living off of being a purposely provocative asshole. He cleverly capitalized on the friction he strategically generated. And now he’s dead from renal failure, and to take a look at him, the last ten years at least of his life had to be a battle with one health issue after another. I’m surprised the creep lasted to 77 without a sniper taking him out. Larry Flynt wasn’t as lucky, but he probably was wealthier.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 19, 2013 at 6:37 pm #

      But he made good money! And he did it for a good cause – to degrade Christianity. He said so in an interview once. Jews will forgive a lot when that’s the case. Now I suppose some fool is going to deny Jews dominate Porn? Or is that wrong just because Hitler said so? Or is owning and operating Screw wrong while screwing the West via International Banking is not only Ok but commendable? Madoff’s real sin was screwing other Jews.

      • Lord Blaby of Lawson December 19, 2013 at 7:08 pm #

        Here’s a photo of Goldstein at his Bar Mitzvah. Such promise. His folks must have been proud. “Where did we go wrong?” I can hear them saying. “He was always such a good boy.” “It’s the society we’re living in, I tell you.”


    • orionoir@gmail.com December 19, 2013 at 7:53 pm #

      [And now he’s dead from renal failure]

      @blaby, just a couple points:

      * he got his kid into harvard law? the guy can’t be all bad;

      * am i being hypervigilant, or do you equate illness with moral defect? it’s so common these days, people bragging about their health, as if it’s god’s own stamp of approval. the whole fallacy re terminal illness, cancer especially, that a good attitude (or diet, or lifestyle, etc) will get you through. life doesn’t work that way… i mean, look at the old nazis in uruguay, they’re having a grand ol’ time.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 19, 2013 at 9:10 pm #

        Harvard Law? You think that’s good? A lot of that is who you know you know. Now do you really think Elena Kagan got appointed to the Supreme Court on her own merits? You think she was the most qualified? Her Jewish credentials were impeccable I admit.

      • Lord Blaby of Lawson December 19, 2013 at 9:42 pm #

        Yes, you’re being hypervigilant. I’ve watched my share of alcoholics die early deaths and their lives were mostly miserable by their own hand. It looks like the Grim Reaper said “fuck you” to Al Goldstein as Goldstein was so fond of saying to the rest of the world his entire life. I’m sorry if I offended you. I didn’t know you were a fan of Screw magazine and Al Goldstein. Liberals don’t give a shit about the objectification and degradation of women so they’re always quick to defend pornographers and pimps.

      • Lord Blaby of Lawson December 19, 2013 at 10:33 pm #

        Let’s face it, orionoir, sometimes illness is the result of moral defect. Certainly not always, but certainly sometimes. Alcoholism is but one example and I don’t buy this crap that addiction is a disease. It’s a moral defect. Some moral defects are more hazardous to your health than others and living a “clean” life is not necessarily a guarantee of good health either. I like to investigate how people die. It’s a morbid fascination with me. It always has been for as long as I can remember, so if I noted the cause of Goldstein’s death, maybe it was me channeling my inner coroner yet again.

        Still, he was a scumbag and as Janos noted, his purpose was to help destroy Christianity. He tempts good Christian men with his lewd filth and before you know it, these otherwise fine and moral Christian men are ejaculating into tissues or whatever else is handy rather than into the love canals of their wives and that means less children and that means not only the degradation of women and morality but the diminution of the magnitude of moral force by reduction of the ranks.

        And one final note. You and I were discussing being an example to our children. What kind of example was Goldstein to this child who rejected him? Instead of swallowing that rejection and introspecting and reflecting upon it, he seeks spiteful vengeance and publicly slanders and humiliates his son and his ex-wife. Is this something you endorse? You feel a need to defend a creep who would do such a thing? He deserves my derision regardless of what little “good” there may have been in this petty opportunistic provocateur.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 19, 2013 at 11:56 pm #

          Orionoir is or enjoys playing the cynical world weary rake. Such cynicism is fashionable – and it is another name for decadence. In extreme cases they think pornographers are better men and better for society than ministers.

          On the hyper-vigilant question though, remember that the New Age has made tremendous inroads into our culture. And one of its doctrines is that good people don’t get cancer. He is reacting to this I think and quite rightly. In itself it is an appalling idea.

          I think our many toxins play a big role. My nurse practicioner told me that she didn’t see much cancer down in Haiti. Their problem is parasites.

          • Lord Blaby of Lawson December 20, 2013 at 6:57 am #

            Yes, I think there’s that about the new age bullshit, but there’s also a very basic tendency that we all fall prey to, and that’s taking criticism personally and reacting to a criticism that was not directed at you as though it were directed at you. I’m guilty of it on occasion so none of us are immune to this behavior. It stems from a sense of insecurity I believe. An unreconciled nerve gets touched by a critical statement and the very primal response is to attack what pinched that unreconciled nerve rather than reconciling why that nerve is susceptible to pinching. I surmise like all the rest of us mortals orionoir has done a few regretful things in his life for which, for whatever reason but usually it’s ego, he will not allow himself to seek forgiveness directly and so he seeks it indirectly and vicariously through onerous villains like Al Goldstein. For that, I forgive him but I also, and more importantly, urge him to forgive himself so we can, once again, remorselessly and unmitigatedly flog and mock the likes of Al Goldstein who so righteously deserve our unmerciful condemnation.

  2. ajmuste December 19, 2013 at 5:13 pm #

    The amount that is in the ground, the costs of getting it out of the ground and the rate as which the billions of people now on the earth use it up are facts. Hard facts which anybody can find out on their own. — Kdog

    In fact, the “amount that is in the ground” is not a hard fact.

    Governments lie, oil companies lie, and nobody knows just how much is in the ground. The costs, and rate of consumption, are more easily established … but even professional petroleum geologists differ in their ESTIMATES of how much is in the ground.

    • Karah December 19, 2013 at 9:09 pm #

      Let’s just assume there IS a ton of the stuff in the ground to last everyone and their grandchildren into the next century…

      How are they going to get it out of the Earth’s crust without it costing more than it’s worth?

      Same thing for any mineral deposits that exist on the moon or mars…what good does that do us here on Earth if we can’t get at it.

      So, the only benefit to reporting the “fact” we have 100 years of oil is to maintain and increase current demands (rushes) for any kind of oil and stifle funding for R&D in alternative sources for energy.

      • K-Dog December 20, 2013 at 12:36 am #

        The relevant graph is:

        Global Discovery of Petroleum Liquids (includes Conventional Oil plus NGLs)

        That’s the fourth figure down from the top. The sixth one down is also relevant. They are both valid because rate of discovery predicts rate of exploitation.

        Global Discovery of Conventional Gas

        The link was written in the Winter of 2002.

        The link ends with “The all-world conventional oil peak is about 10 years away, after which production will decline at ~ 3% /year.”

        There you have it. Thank you Roger.

        • Karah December 20, 2013 at 11:21 am #

          Humankind now knows where nearly all the oil is. The difficulty lies in extracting it at a rate that meets current and prospective demand.
          And if cost were no object, all of the oil could indeed be accessed, eventually (even though at a negative energy return in m any cases!) But this is what the whole argument is about: the peaking of conventional oil is the end of the cheap oil.
          See the University of Reading paper: Perspectives on the Future of Oil for further discussion of this topic.
          (4/Dec./2002 Roger, Oildepletion.org)

          This was written before 2008 when the finance industry caploded. Money, like oil, must flow to produce ANYTHING.

          There’s also been an awaking concerning other natural resources like WATER. What used to flow freely and be self renewing is now being rationed in bottles and permanently contaminated by humankind’s various and unchecked activities.

          Kings of Leon was playing this song as I write… http://youtu.be/sgdK3WVUEgg

          • K-Dog December 20, 2013 at 1:16 pm #

            Yes cost must be considered and those of us who have followed resource depletion issues for any significant length of time know it is the loss of cheap oil and not just the simple loss of oil that will bring the civilization party to an premature end.

            Huge numbers of activities depend on cheap oil to make those activities economically viable. The loss of cheap oil will drive prices of certain essential items beyond the reach of the common man. The loss of cheap oil may bring on a Seneca cliff leading to massive pain misery and death as the economy prematurely collapses before the raw spectre of oil depletion can fully manifest itself. People will be texting images of remembered meals, food they would like to eat, instead of food they are eating now. There will be no phone-app to prevent starvation.

            Our unregulated economic system structured as it now is produces bubbles and recessions. As the cost of oil increases a long emergency of economic recession and decline will result because their is no political will in Washington to address the situation or acknowledge its existence. Rule by oligarchy and the death of the liberal class has ossified our culture and made it incapable of responding to crisis. Our leaders are fully committed to rapine and concern for social issues has gone the way of the Dodo bird.

            We are going to go down and nobody will be whizzing along towards a bounteous future of unimaginable progress. Nobody at all!

            It is not lack of intelligence that dooms us. Lack of character and selfishness is what will do us in.

          • K-Dog December 20, 2013 at 1:24 pm #


            a premature end.

            massive pain, misery, and death

            It is always something.

  3. bob December 19, 2013 at 5:22 pm #

    We find ourselves in a precarious position. Most people are looking only at the present and not seeing the bigger near term picture. Many countries are in effect bankrupt and can only keep going with fiat creation,so we sit on a huge debt that can implode with higher interest rates ,collapsing the multi trillion derivative bets.
    The climate change deniers point to the fact that climate warming has actually slowed in the last decade ,what they forget to mention is that the heat energy to a large extent is being stored in the ocean depths, and could soon come back with a vengeance,with self reinforcing feed back loops.
    We have been riding the rocky plateau of peak of oil production for quite awhile .Is 2014 the year we start our descent or is it 2015?
    Probably most are still riding the wave at the top, so best not to look down.

  4. Q. Shtik December 19, 2013 at 8:53 pm #

    Lord Blaby of Lawson

    Would that be Lawson, MO?

  5. Lord Blaby of Lawson December 20, 2013 at 9:11 am #

    orionoir – My sixth sense rarely fails me. It appears my last comment to Janos in relation to Al Goldstein and Screw is not only not unfounded, but actually close to spot-on. Would you care to explain the following? If this were my daughter… Well, let’s just leave it at that. Details can be messy and incriminating so I’ll leave it to the imagination.

    MANCHESTER — A 43-year-old Ashford man was charged with breach of peace Monday by police who accused him of trying to lure a 14-year-old girl into his car last week.

    Police responded to two unrelated reports last week of men trying to get teenage girls into their cars.

    Michael Sangree, of 286 Mansfield Road, Ashford, was charged with trying to lure the girl into his car on West Center Street May 16 by asking for directions, police said. The girl instead got into the car of a relative who happened to pass by.

    Sangree was held on $10,000 bail and is scheduled to appear in Superior Court in Manchester today.

    • orionoir@gmail.com December 20, 2013 at 10:13 am #

      [Sangree was held on $10,000 bail]

      @blaby — well darn good sleuthing, i give you full credit. can’t you dig a little deeper, eg, how was the case disposed?

      not that it was a proud moment in my life: my lawyer said that someone else said that the girl said, he was just some drunk guy, that sums the story pretty well.

      i’d give my eye tooth to meet the copywriter who came up with that word ‘lure.’ it caught everyone’s attention.

      from time to time i’ve wanted to write about that time, but i’ve always thought, no, it’s best left unsaid. perhaps now with you putting it out for the world to see, i’m free now to be as honest as i feel like being, it’s not as if i’ve a reputation to protect.

      as for our correspondence here, well, i can’t say i haven’t enjoyed your writing. but i suppose i’m glad now that we’re no longer friends.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 20, 2013 at 2:33 pm #

      How did you figure all that out?

      • Lord Blaby of Lawson December 20, 2013 at 2:42 pm #

        Janos, you wouldn’t believe me if I told you. A hint. The “Lord” in Lord Blaby of Lawson is not for no reason. There are forces greater than we understand at play, and if you tune your frequency just right, you can vaguely access some of it. But first you have to believe.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 20, 2013 at 4:04 pm #

          Impressive. As is your willingness to take on Goldstein, even though one of your own. Not that Jews never do, but typically they hate to do it front of others.

      • K-Dog December 20, 2013 at 7:35 pm #

        What’s to figure out. He read it in the dossier as you well know! Is this an inside joke?

  6. Q. Shtik December 20, 2013 at 11:58 am #

    “Orionoir is or enjoys playing the cynical world weary rake.” – Janos

    This is one of your better observations, Janos although I would have used a couple of commas:

    is, or enjoys playing,

    • Janos Skorenzy December 20, 2013 at 2:34 pm #

      You would have or I should have? Is Grammar sometimes an art and not a science?

  7. beantownbill. December 20, 2013 at 2:02 pm #

    I went to the Connecticut casino yesterday. It is around 90 miles from where I live, and usually takes me between 1.5 hrs to 100 minutes to drive there. This time it took me about FOUR hours. As I’m driving, I’m muttering, ” Where the hell are these people coming from?” It struck me that there are way too many drivers on the road, happy motoring in extremis. Most of the way down route 95, ambulances kept on flashing by. I imagine people are too frenetic now, it being primo consumer season.

    We stayed in the MGM casino at Foxwoods, a haven for the youthful crowd in Rhode Island and Connecticut. I saw many young women carousing around. Their dresses were incredibly short. I’m from the 1960′s so I wasn’t shocked, nor do I disapprove, for obvious reasons. Still, the dresses did not extend past their underwear, and in one instance, I swore one of the girls wore no panties – or maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part. Almost all the so-called dresses were black. Many of the young people were intoxicated. I’m about the furthest someone could be from a prude, but I couldn’t help thinking our civilization is really going downhill fast.

    What with the ridiculous traffic, the ambulances, the exhibitionism by young females, the public drunkenness, the riotous, forced freneticism, and though I am an atheist, I was in Sodom or Gemorah, or perhaps in a futuristic dystopian novel. It seems what our fathers and ourselves have wrought has come home to roost.

  8. BackRowHeckler December 20, 2013 at 2:22 pm #

    William, pretty soon you won’t have to drive so far. I think I just heard a casino is going in at the old Suffolk Downs race track, right in your neighborhood.

    The type of traffic on I495 you describe is what makes me doubt the validity of the peak oil theory.

    Yes, in the land of steady habits, founded by Puritans who came here from England to escape Charles 1 and the Church of England and found a New Jerusalem based on a literal reading of the New Testament, we’ve come a long way in 380 years. Gambling is our main business now, but not our only business. All kinds of new concerns are opening to produce ‘medical marijuana’. (I’ve learned grass can cure any disease known to man). So we have gambling and drugs … only thing left is for the state to go in for pimping out young girls for a perfect trifecta in vice … which is what it takes to fund the welfare state and pay for state employee unions.


    • Janos Skorenzy December 20, 2013 at 2:39 pm #

      Marijuana is part of the pharmacopeia of a number of highly developed ancient medical systems such as the Chinese and the Vedic. It stimulates appetite and digestion while repressing nausea. Very useful for many cancer patients. Very.

      • Lord Blaby of Lawson December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm #

        You are correct Janos, and it’s only a gateway drug because the same shits you have to deal with to get it because it’s illegal are the same pushers who peddle the addictive synthetic shit like heroin and cocaine which also not coincidentally happens to be more expensive. Just because someone partakes of cannabis doesn’t mean they’re more likely to partake of heroin, cocaine or any other addictive drug. In fact, quite the opposite. Cannabis is a fill-in drug for hard-core addicts to carry them over between fixes, it’s not a substance you graduate from to lethally addictive substances as the myth would have us believe.

        That being said, I don’t condone teenagers chronically using it everyday. There is strong evidence that chronic use of it can have deleterious effects on still developing brains. Yet it’s the teenagers who, once again not coincidentally, have easy access to it even though it’s illegal. Teenagers have broader social networks and the pushers target them so they can push these easy marks to the harder stuff in several years. It’s not because the cannabis makes them crave harder core, it’s because they’re impressionable and vulnerable and their developing brains have been negatively impacted by chronic use of an otherwise positive substance if used responsibly.

    • beantownbill. December 20, 2013 at 2:42 pm #

      Marlin, I didn’t think about that next step. The state controlling prostitution? What a wonderful idea. Forgetting about the immorality of allowing young women to get paid for sex (don’t think there’d be too many 60 year old hookers), ponder the the synergistic effect with gambling – the state would make a fortune. Sin always pays in the short and intermediate term, although the payback can be very high in the long run. Why, all we’d have to do is legalize drugs and voila! you have your perfect trifecta. Look at the benefits: with mandatory government inspections, std’s would be drastically reduced, the prostitutes would be safer, the drug cartels would go out of business or become legitimate, law enforcement could concentrate on solving real crimes, the prison system would be down-sized, etc., etc.

      • BackRowHeckler December 20, 2013 at 2:47 pm #

        You got me convinced, Bill

      • Janos Skorenzy December 20, 2013 at 4:08 pm #

        We probably should do on or the other; either go back to a Traditional Society or a more or less completely Libertarian one. This in between seems the worse of both possible worlds. BUT I don’t think most people could handle Libertarianism or they’d put out on the street by Libertarians who are better at it. And with the amount of diversity and agnosticism/atheism, what version of Traditionalism could we possible settle on? I’m afraid the Worst of Both is the Best we can do until the bottom falls out.

  9. BackRowHeckler December 20, 2013 at 2:45 pm #

    Speaking of the Welfare State, we learn there’s a company providing large blue plastic shipping barrels to the Bodegas and Markets in Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, Waterbury etc. Immigrants from Africa, Latin America, Asia and the Caribbean, that is to say the entire population, are using these barrels to ship food bought with US FoodStamps back to their families in the home country.

    Right about this time, around the holidays, do-gooder organizations, mostly white Libs from the suburbs, go into high gear with their pleas for donations of food and money for the starving people in the urban areas, laying it on thick and guilt tripping us to give as much as we can bear. These ubiquitous blue barrels, shipped all over the third world, change the dynamic a little bit, at least for me.

    –Food Stamp Nation, 100 Million Strong

  10. Q. Shtik December 20, 2013 at 3:56 pm #

    “Is Grammar sometimes an art and not a science?”

    No question, there is, or can be, a lot of art involved in grammar and punctuation. I’d say about 25%.

  11. Q. Shtik December 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm #

    Lord Blaby of Lawson,

    Are you by any chance the commenter who formerly went by the name Wagelaborer?

    • K-Dog December 20, 2013 at 7:14 pm #

      Wage was a woman and Lord Blaby of Bullshit is clearly male.

      I don’t know why you would bring her up. Far as I know she has been minding her own business staying out of here and running for congress. Wage clearly had a different personality and here it was you just the other day who was saying that it is difficult to impersonate other avitars.

      For shame; one would think that she would be left alone for doing her part and staying away from here as requested by ‘David’ in person. I remember her last comment saying it was at a shopping mall when she was approached and explained the situation in her last comment on her way out a year ago.

      No honour amongst thieves I guess. And why would she be here as someone else? She never intended to deceive and it would make no more sense for her to pretend to be someone else as it would for me to pretend to be someone else. I regret not believing her original claims when she peeked behind the curtain and saw what she saw. At the time it all seemed too outlandish, silly me.

      One issue concerning ‘short memories’ should be considered. The greater public and casual reader may be easily deceived by temporal inconsistencies (hows that for a euphemism) but their use confirms suspicions of regular readers. A case of not being able to have it both ways I’d say. The sort of thing that could be quite a problem if an avitar were transferred to another team member.

      That’s the trouble with lies. They must never stop and that is the great weakness.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 20, 2013 at 8:23 pm #

        Can you post that post? I never saw it and it would be of great interest. I used to have quite a thing for Wage. She incarnated Mother Russia for me.

        Is Q part of the team?

  12. Lord Blaby of Lawson December 20, 2013 at 4:31 pm #

    Janos – That was an excellent article you posted a while back about the Pastoral Pope and the Pastoral Bishops. If you find the time and haven’t already seen it, may I suggest the movie Doubt starring Meryl Streep and Philip Seymour Hoffman. Refreshingly, a Jew didn’t direct it. Instead it was directed by a not so good Catholic boy, John Patrick Shanley, who got booted out of Catholic school in his youth.

    It is an excellent story and the movie is riveting. It’s rife with evocative dialogue, something sorely lacking in modern cinema, but what you would like most about it is that it underscores the sentiment of the Pastoral Pope/Bishop article you posted. The priest played by Hoffman is of the pastoral ilk, and the movie is also fitting considering recent events with orionoir. Doubt is a powerful force that enshrouds us daily yet we fail to properly respect it.


    • Janos Skorenzy December 20, 2013 at 6:13 pm #

      I saw it: a fine movie, two top actors. Many Jews have “converted” to Catholicism in order to destroy it. EWTN is full of “Judaizers” – the ancient heresy of those who want to drag the Church back into Judaism. There are real converts too but they seem to be the minority now.

      Israel is amazingly 8% Christian, many of them new converts. But they are “Messianic” and don’t think they have to leave Christianity since Jesus was a “Rabbi”. Thus they are in reality just a new sect of Judaism.

      Bella Dodd, the Communist Convert, said that the Party planted thousands of men into the Priesthood. The fruits of that mighty effort were Vatican Two. I don’t think Frank is Catholic. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t even a Christian.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 20, 2013 at 8:13 pm #

        correction: leave Judaism

  13. Q. Shtik December 20, 2013 at 5:08 pm #

    The last paragraph of last week’s essay by JHK read as follows:

    I think we’ll see them try the head-fake taper. They must. It will be backstopped by and saturated in statistical lying, and everyone will have trouble parsing the probable effect because the chronic dishonesty loose in this land will have deformed and impaired all metrics of true value. At the heart of whatever remains of this economy is fire, and the officers of the Federal Reserve are playing with it. Pretty soon, we’ll get the un-taper, the final surrender to the crack-up boom that awaits before the western world has to go medieval.

    We must hand it to Jim, he was dead on. (Not that many others hadn’t concluded the same.) Bernanke announced a taper to begin in January. He indicated there would likely be announcements of further tapering at each FOMC meeting (each 6 weeks) going forward but didn’t carve that in granite. He allowed that depending on the then data they might halt tapering or even reverse it. (I will bet that they wouldn’t dare halt or reverse the taper for at least 6 FOMC meetings, if ever.) Whatever the case, after an initial drop in the indexes they soared and the DOW wound up with a gain of 292 pts. on Wednesday and more since then.

    This was counter intuitive since, as we know, QEs 1, 2 and 3 have been pumping money into the market and causing it to rise to all-time highs so the reduction of this monthly stimulus to the tune of 10B per month and likely further reductions in the future should have caused a decline in the averages. But markets being as perverse as they are they rose instead, with the expressed rationale by the talking heads being that long festering doubt about the taper (if and when) had finally been cleared up and markets love clarity.

    This brings me to JHK’s last sentence in the italicized paragraph above:

    Pretty soon, we’ll get the un-taper, the final surrender to the crack-up boom that awaits before the western world has to go medieval.

    I am completely baffled by this sentence. I ask any knowledgeable poster here to interpret it for me. Lacking such poster, I ask that Jim, himself, please spell it out for me in different words…..if indeed Jim is still monitoring the comments this late in the week.

    • K-Dog December 20, 2013 at 7:27 pm #

      The taper will trigger the inflation the original QE meddling was supposed to prevent. A case of delayed reaction as QE could never do more than treat the symptom and not the disease. The piper must be paid and Cinderella must be home by midnight. With the onset of Hyperinflation crack up boom the un-taper will be attempted to transfer even more wealth to the rich and get us back into the current phony war. But it will be too late.

      That’s my guess and I really don’t claim it is more than that.

  14. Q. Shtik December 20, 2013 at 5:56 pm #

    “… the movie Doubt starring Meryl Streep and Philip Seymour Hoffman.” – Lord Blaby

    Regardless of the connection you see between this movie and the new Pope (not that I question it) the thing that stood out to me was Streep’s perfect capture of what the accent of a white nun in 1964 in the Bronx would sound like. How does she do it?!

  15. Q. Shtik December 20, 2013 at 6:17 pm #

    There seems to be no end to the revelations of NSA snooping lately. And really, who suspected that they have been capturing virtually every phone conversation and internet/email communication of the entire American populace, if not the world?

    But think about this……….with such power the temptation for NSA operatives to acquire and use inside business information for personal gain must be overwhelming. (Believe me, it wouldn’t take much to overwhelm ME.) Examples of how such information might be turned into a fortune are endless and unnecessary to spell out.

    • K-Dog December 20, 2013 at 6:48 pm #

      Ahhhhhh Moi !! And it has gone way way beyond suspecting.

  16. Q. Shtik December 20, 2013 at 7:22 pm #

    “I don’t think Frank is Catholic. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t even a Christian.” – Janos

    Frank who? Bawney?

  17. Q. Shtik December 20, 2013 at 8:44 pm #

    “Pope Frankie.” – Janos

    Oh, OK. So why the disdain? Too loosey goosey for you? Not conservative enough? Wuddja expect him to say… We’re all God’s children except maybe blacks….the jury’s still out on blacks.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 20, 2013 at 11:17 pm #

      He’s a Communist and only believes Catholicism in terms of Social Gospel. He’s a Jesuit – an order that fell to the dark forces generations ago. A famous Jesuit, Father Drinan of Boston College, once referred to Anti-Abortion advocates as the forces of darkness.

      Scan your memory banks. The Teaching of the Church is not Communism but rather Distributism – the ownership of land and capital to be as widely distributed as possible. Basically Kdogism without the Kdogs and all their assorted weirdness: hatred of the White Race, Globalism under the U.N, Feminism, worship of Blacks, etc.

  18. Q. Shtik December 20, 2013 at 11:20 pm #

    “She incarnated Mother Russia for me.” – Janos speaking of Wage

    I had a similar thought. I considered writing that Wage could have sat down comfortably with Karl Marx for a meal.

    • K-Dog December 21, 2013 at 1:44 am #

      But Karl would not have hogged all the dinner rolls. He would have shared the food. I think anybody sitting down with him would have had a comfortable meal and you sure can’t say that about everybody.

      Imagine sharing a meal anyone in the Bush family. You would have been safe with broccoli yes, but anything else, a quick jab of the fork, and it would be gone. And they would be smirking while they chew your food. And what about Obama. Having a dinner plate with him would cost the average American six month’s wages. A single pea rolling off your fork onto the floor would be like loosing five hundred bucks. Now how could that be comfortable?

    • Janos Skorenzy December 21, 2013 at 1:45 am #

      What a MILF! Her Marxism was so over the top it just brought out the devil in me.

  19. BackRowHeckler December 21, 2013 at 12:15 am #

    Didn’t JHK kick WageLabor out? Not because she was an admitted Communist, no, but because of her crazy 911 conspiracy theories, which ’round these parts is forbidden.


    • K-Dog December 21, 2013 at 1:23 am #

      And how would you know? That was way before your time.

      JHK never kicked Wage out. That misdirection was spawned by Progresso4Whatever who claimed she emailed him and wagelaborer’s last post has been cut from the database just like Jang Song-Thaek has been cut from that North Korean Documentary by Kim Jong-Un.

      And nefarious forces doctoring a database is far easier to do than airbrushing a documentary.

      • beantownbill. December 21, 2013 at 1:15 pm #

        Uh, sorry, but BRH was here before Wage disappeared. I get along with most everybody, but she and I didn’t. I found her to be a prickly, thin-skinned and humorless woman who took everything very seriously. I once posted a comment with weird humor about hitting a pedestrian and she replied back that a relative was killed by a hit and run driver ( I think she said hit and run), and that I was a terrible person for making a cruel joke. Of course, I didn’t know that, and I could see why she would be sensitive about that subject, so I wrote back apologizing. She didn’t accept the apology, and from that point on castigated me whenever she could. I wrote her off, and I’m glad she’s gone from here.

        • K-Dog December 21, 2013 at 5:13 pm #

          Of course I know that BRH was here when wagelaborer was here but I believe he was not going by that moniker hence my jab. I believe he preferred the moniker asoka to all others in those days. Something he admitted to recently here himself unless he was pulling my leg. I do have four. If BRH was used in those days it was not used with anything like the frequency it now is.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 21, 2013 at 1:47 am #

      Ozone just happens to have the complete works of Karl Marx on his bookshelves, but that’s Ok because he’s your pal. He just found them in the garbage or maybe the wind just blew them in.

      • K-Dog December 21, 2013 at 3:09 am #

        Want to pass the mash potatoes there big guy. Putting them on your copy of Mein Kampf to keep them warm was a real good idea. Kept them nice and toasty warm; better than a steam table.

        But I hope the flavour has not been ruined. They might have gone bad.

  20. Pucker December 21, 2013 at 12:22 am #

    I know that I’m not sexy…..

    “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.”
    - Henry Kissinger


  21. Lord Blaby of Lawson December 21, 2013 at 9:30 am #

    I don’t labor much, and when I do it’s not for a wage but rather for the intrinsic value one gets from a job well done. Marx was an elitist who attempted to invent a way to perpetuate elitism once Capitalism failed. He wanted his brand of elitism to replace the old order elitism of the Catholic Church. This is reformation/revolution in a nutshell. Under the guise of reformation they seek to install their own particular brand of tyranny. I would never sit down to dinner with a hirsute, unkempt pig like Marx. His repulsive countenance would cause my meal to boomerang. So why may I ask am I thought to be this “Wagelaborer?” Is it constructive for me to ask any of you whether you’re really Obama or Cheney trolling discussion boards for kicks? What purpose would it serve?

    Now, back to something more constructive than figuring out who’s behind the mask at the masquerade ball. There’s this issue of doubt and possible intent to abduct. If the act was never consummated, it’s difficult to prove intent, and with the case of orionoir I don’t have all the facts so I won’t pronounce him guilty as charged. He is still innocent until proven guilty, although I now have doubt about that innocence and doubt is shadowy by its very nature.

    This hits close to home for me because of something I experienced when I was a young boy. I believe I was around twelve years of age and I was returning home from my friend’s house late one cool, breezy Fall evening close to midnight after watching a horror flick. We were living in a condominium complex at the time and I took a route that meandered through a wooded area and then popped out onto a road that was also part of the complex. My path home took me across this road and then through a couple of courtyards to our unit at the very far end of the complex. As I exited the wooded area to cross this road, a car, a coupe that I believe was an early seventies Pontiac Lemans, traveling very slowly pulls up to me before I have a chance to cross. The driver, a male in his early twenties, leans across the passenger seat and says “where are you going this late at night?” I said, “home.” He said, “well hop in and I’ll give you a ride home. It’s too cold for you to be walking.” My heart is racing right about this moment and I’m contemplating making a run for it but I know he could beat me if he was so inclined so I’m weighing my options. No way am I getting in the car with him, so I decide, for now, I’m going to try to manage him and if it escalates, I’ll make that run for it because I will not give up easily. I can sense he is reading me like a book. He’s scoping me out like a tiger scopes out its prey trying to figure the right angle before pouncing. I respond while all this is rushing through my head and veins, “no thanks, I’m fine, it’s not too cold.” He says, “nonsense, it’s freezing out here. Where do you live?” I say, and I have to really think quick on my feet because if I hesitate he’ll know I’m lying and he may know I’m lying anyway but I have to play this card right now because I only have one ace and I’m only going to lay it down as a last resort, “I live right there” as I point to a unit in a building across the street and down a ways. He looks to where I’m pointing and pauses. He’s reading me and I’m reading him. He’s considering his strategy and so he gives it one final shot, “alright, then hop in and I’ll ride you over there. Come on now, get in.” His voice has changed intonation and it now is no longer an offer or a suggestion, but rather it’s an impatient and peeved order. This is the moment. My heart is pounding out of my chest. It’s telling me to run. My intellect is telling me to give negotiation one more chance, so I concede to my intellect and I tell him, “no thank you, it’s just across the street, I’m fine.” He pauses yet again, recalibrating. You can see his circuitry processing the possibilities like the lights flashing on Deep Blue. Finally, after what seemed a lifetime, he says “are you sure?” I respond, “yeah, I’m sure. Thanks anyway.” He drives away very slowly and I’m here now to tell about it.

    • K-Dog December 21, 2013 at 4:42 pm #

      I would never sit down to dinner with a hirsute, unkempt pig like Marx.

      You are such a hater and you hirsute reference does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling. Being s I am quite fuzzy.

  22. Q. Shtik December 21, 2013 at 11:35 am #

    “…something I experienced when I was a young boy.”

    Well, that clears up two things……you’re not Wage and you’re not a woman. That leaves only my first question. Does “of Lawson” refer to Lawson, Missouri?

    Dog, it is hard for me to say why I thought Blaby might be Wage but it’s all moot at this point anyway.

    • Lord Blaby of Lawson December 21, 2013 at 11:41 am #

      I have no idea what the “Lawson” refers to, but if it must refer to something then I would like it to refer to Nigella, and more specifically to her sumptuous, beautiful, bountiful bosom.

      • K-Dog December 21, 2013 at 5:01 pm #

        Here we go, an admission of what I just wrote below.

        Nigel Lawson is the father of Nigella Lawson, a food writer and celebrity cook.

        Does she have a nice bosom?

        You be the judge. You can start here.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 21, 2013 at 5:13 pm #

        You intimated that you were a real Lord! A Lord must be a Lord of someplace. This is the strength of Aristocracy, that it is grounded in the Land. It’s weakness is its exclusivity. The resolution of this binary? Every man a King as Huey Long said. Every man beneath his own fig tree as the Bible says. A capitalism bound by Tradition and limited by real money based on real things or commodities.

        The Marxist resolution of this binary or dialectic is to do away with all Aristocracy or Ownership, be is it howsoever small. Thus their resolution is a downward triangle that negates the positive elements of Aristocracy both in terms of ownership and nobility of character. The downward triangle is also the triangle of Black Magic and Homosexuality. My resolution upwards, preserving the virtues of Aristocracy and extending them to all capable of it: the upright Triangle of White Magic. I would say that of the Eye or Horus or the All Seeing Eye, but those symbols have been cooped by the Enemy and turned into the Eye of Sauron.

        Peter Jackson sold out by the way. The new Hobbit shows Blacks living in Lake Town.

    • K-Dog December 21, 2013 at 4:56 pm #

      I thought I cleared this up last week. He wants to present himself as a conservative contrarian and is playing on words.

      I mean come on, Oh Lordy;

      Lord Blaby of Lawson comes from Baron Lawson of Blaby

      Created a life peer in 1992, Nigel Lawson now sits in the House of Lords. He is a total conservative and is all about being as sceptical as he can be about climate change. He believes that man-made global warming is exaggerated and is a total privatisation advocate. Lawson is a brain dead conservative with a brain. One of the crusty upper crust.

      Lord Blaby of Lawson is here to represent similar views and it would be a good guess to say his first name is Nigel.

      But on that I could be wrong.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 21, 2013 at 11:37 pm #

        An intriguing hypothesis, Kdog. But you implied you had access to dossiers and was an agent also. If he is just a private citizen, I would assume that he wouldn’t have such access.

        • K-Dog December 22, 2013 at 4:02 am #

          No I never implied I had access to dossiers. You are trying to dissemble and imply that I implied I had access to dossiers and I now imply that you are implying that I implied I had access to dossiers because you do.

  23. beantownbill. December 21, 2013 at 1:31 pm #

    This is a further comment to a K-dog post to which I replied above:

    By the way, I’m neither a liberal nor a conservative, but I have found, in my own experience, that liberals tend to lack a sense of humor. Conservatives, on the other hand, do have a sense of humor, but it tends to the sarcastic.

    I, myself, have a slapsticky type of humor that tends to the absurd. How can one not appreciate the total absurdity of life? Movies I’ve always loved that describe my attitude are the anarchistic Marx Brothers flicks, Airplane, Animal House, Sleeper, the Police Squad films, There’s Something About Mary, and most of the Cohn brothers’ work.

    Yeah, Janos, they’re mostly Jewish, but politics aside, you have to admit that Jews have a keen sense of humor, generally.

    • BackRowHeckler December 21, 2013 at 2:55 pm #

      Bill, you failed to mention the Three Stooges, the greatest of them all.

      A friend of mine is related to the Howards, and as a kid spent several summers at Moe’s house in Los Angeles. He said Uncle Moe drove around town in a Dodge Dart, liked to cook out, and never turned away a fan seeking an autograph. In short, A Good Guy.

      Their humor is timeless. The youngsters running around here still like watching The Three Stooges on TV.


      • beantownbill. December 21, 2013 at 5:06 pm #

        Oops, that’s right. Can’t remember them all, I guess. BTW, every New Year’s Eve, channel 38 in Boston has a Stooges marathon. I always watch much of it. Can you get in where you are? They don’t make ‘em like they used to, that’s for sure. Oh, yeah, I also love Robin Williams.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 21, 2013 at 4:38 pm #

      Sure they’re funny, but often at our expense. It’s weaponized in other words. Also much of it has become obscene and scatological. It’s a big subject – I don’t always know exactly where to draw the lines nor do I always stay within them I suppose. But lines there must be.

      When Sandra Bernhardt said she wanted Sarah Palin to come to New York and get raped by some her “Black Brothers” the Liberal and Jewish audience roared. Was it a joke? I think that’s exactly what she wanted. But she paid for that since many women don’t think rape is a joke – except rape of men of course. Her gig at a women’s shelter in Boston was cancelled. She tried the old apologizing without apologizing but I doubt if anyone took her seriously.

      Humor is a complex psychological phenomena. Did you ever ask yourself what exactly it is? I don’t know either, but oh how we enjoy it. But it turns nasty very quickly. I think we can all agree on that. And kids get their politics from John Stewart and Colbert now. That’s not good. You have to be Very conscious to enjoy humor yet stop before it goes bad. We are a Fallen Race, quick to evil. And in no part of us it this more evident than in our laughter.

      • beantownbill. December 21, 2013 at 5:21 pm #

        Sandra Bernhardt – yech! But why dislike her because she’s Jewish? There’s plenty of other reasons.

        Humor must somehow be a result of our brain structure, although some animals appear to have a sense of it.

        I really don’t mind profanity, unless it’s used for its own sake. Lewis Black and Louis C.K. come to mind when I think of hilarious, filthy-mouthed comedians.

        Your belief about human evil seems rather Catholic to me. Given my religious beliefs (lack of), I believe humans are hard-wired, perhaps fatally, for darkness.

        You are intelligent, somewhat spiritual and somewhat religious, but for the life of me, I can’t figure out how you could end up being so prejudiced. Doesn’t the Christian religions tell us to turn the other cheek?

        • Janos Skorenzy December 21, 2013 at 11:07 pm #

          Sandra’s slur was because Palin is a symbol of White Christians. And of course, Liberals hate us too, but Jews did first. And Sandra is or at least was on a big Kabbalah trip saying hands off my Torah with your funky religion – as if she was living by Torah standards.

          Oh and yeah, there was the little thing about the Jews crucifying Christ. And then being the hit men against Christians in the Roman Empire.

          Btw I don’t think Palin is too smart or at least not Aware. But I support her against the Hate. Bashir couldn’t resist and he got fired. Yea Team.

  24. Lord Blaby of Lawson December 21, 2013 at 1:59 pm #

    That’s my guess and I really don’t claim it is more than that.

    Thank you for that disclaimer, because yes, it is a guess and a wild one at that.

    What part of circulation do you not understand? There is money supply, and then there’s the amount of that supply that’s in circulation, meaning available to the plebs to purchase the necessities, or otherwise, of life. QE did not increase the amount of money in circulation, but in fact decreased the amount it while increasing the overall money supply. That excess supply has increasingly been used by financial institutions to speculate, and equities/commodities are the perfect venue for that, although as we’ve witnessed lately, creative debt instruments are equally as speculative thus blurring the effective line between debt and equity.

    It’s quite possible that with the announcement of QE tapering and holding interest rates low, the Great Rotation I referred to earlier in this thread is kicking into gear, and hence the substantial uptick in the equity indices signaling it has begun.

    • K-Dog December 22, 2013 at 3:57 am #

      Thank you for the explanation. I agree with you. QE was supposed to increase the plebeian money supply by loosening up credit but that did not happen and now that the overall money supply has been increased inflation will result at a level greater than what would have been the case had there been no QE. With the onset of inflation the economy will recess and another round of QE will be attempted because the taper will be misperceived as the problem. As you say we’ve witnessed lately, creative debt instruments are equally as speculative.

      Fundamentals have not been addressed and trouble must inevitably result. Anyway my guess was appropriate as the question was asked to explain this:

      Pretty soon, we’ll get the un-taper, the final surrender to the crack-up boom that awaits before the western world has to go medieval.

      I tried to explain it, you did not. And my guess therefore, is after all, not so wild.

  25. Lord Blaby of Lawson December 21, 2013 at 3:45 pm #

    The Three Stooges were great.

    Here’s a link to a video of Moe Howard on the Mike Douglas show with Ted Knight demonstrating the art of pie throwing. It made me heartily laugh out loud. Try not to laugh watching it.

    You won’t see anything like this on that bloated, bloviating Black bitch’s show, that’s for sure. They don’t make talk shows like Mike Douglas anymore.

  26. progress4what December 21, 2013 at 4:37 pm #

    “JHK never kicked Wage out. That misdirection was spawned by Progresso4Whatever who claimed she emailed him and wagelaborer’s last post has been cut from the database just like…..”

    K-dog, you really need to some reading on paranoia. Because I’ve watched you begin to manifest a pretty serious case of it over the last several months.

    And I know it probably won’t do you much good to tell you this – because you’ll just jam it into your preconceived view of how you are being surveilled 24/7 by the webcam in your computer…or whatever.

    Nevertheless here goes. WageLaborer is a real human being. She still has her own blog. http://wagelaborer.blogspot.com/
    She was one of many, many posters who lost her login privileges to CFN.

    Unlike many of us who created a new screenname and jumped back into the fray in those days – Wage decided that her “banning” was from JHK personally – and decided to never come back.

    She had my email address because I’d posted it previously, and she wrote me and asked me to say her farewells to the blog for her.

    Her email is still in my inbox, dated 2/20/11. I posted her farewell message on 2/21. Here’s a link to that posting as well. http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the_choices_we_make/comment-page-7/#comment-104229

    Wage is an excellent thinker and delights in a boisterous argument. We had many of those on CFN. Yet she was always honorable and straightforward and never trolled the thread simply to piss people off or just to hear herself type.

    I for one, miss her.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 21, 2013 at 4:49 pm #

      Thank you, Prog. I love Wage like a Dog loves a Cat or I love Ice Cream. I just want to eat her up! This is how the demons in The Screwtape Letters talk. I have to be careful. But to her credit, she was down with it, boisterous and tough. I really do love women like that. Obviously I could never have a real life relationship with an ardent Marxist Maiden, but I could online. Most women aren’t like that and I try to respect that. I never talked to the other ladies that way because they aren’t built for that kind of repartee. SJ once got offended on her behalf and Wage defended me. Priceless.

    • K-Dog December 21, 2013 at 5:56 pm #

      I don’t have a webcam on my computer.

      Doth protest too much. You know I know she has her own website and know I have left comments on it. In that week you decided to be her mouthpiece I left a comment saying she had her own website and invited others to visit it.

      This is your comment:

      progress2conserve | February 21, 2012 11:10 PM

      WageLaborer sent me an email earlier today with this message:

      “Hi Prog,
      I wrote your email down a long time ago, in case I ever needed it.

      I got banned from Kunstler. WTF? Why me?

      The Chinese spammer, old69 and Vlad carry on, but I am denied.
      Anyway, if you could let the others know, I’d appreciate it.

      Truly a weird and undeserved banning, I think any of us would agree – even WSP and Q!
      OK, now back to your regularly scheduled Clusters of F*ckages.

      And this is mine:

      k-dog | February 23, 2012 4:49 PM

      While WageLaborer and others can’t post here right now she does have her own blog. You can even leave a comment.

      Same week. The article was “The Choices We Make”

      You misrepresent the facts and have called me paranoid and insulted me. I’m a better dog than you because if I am going to insult someone I’m going to make damn sure that I have my facts right before I do it. I don’t appreciate being made the fool even if the attempt was pathetic.

      You say:

      Because I’ve watched you begin to manifest a pretty serious case of it over the last several months.

      Ok lets be clear. I’m convinced you are a government troll. You have given me evidence to support my position. We are not friends. Wagelaborer made a farewell post which I read and it has been lost and I think you know all about it. Say I am mentally unstable all you wish. I don’t care. Don’t bother asking me for the ‘evidence’ that proved to me you are a government troll. I am not here to ‘out you’ or to prove my sanity to you or anyone else. I’m here for genuine dialogue and I emphasize the genuine.

      When wage was here she even thought I was a government troll sometimes and accused me of it. She on more than one occasion equated you with Vlad who is now know as Janos who she hated with great and deserved passion. The idea that she would trust you to be her mouthpiece is ludicrous.

      WageLaborer is a real human being and I know who she is. She has run for congress as a green party candidate in Illinois. Googling her to find out who she is, no great feat. I also have put out enough information that I can be identified. Such is the case with real people who have nothing to hide.

  27. Lord Blaby of Lawson December 21, 2013 at 4:58 pm #

    You have to be Very conscious to enjoy humor yet stop before it goes bad. We are a Fallen Race, quick to evil. And in no part of us it this more evident than in our laughter.

    Janos – An excellent analysis of humor. This video is an example of going too far. It’s not funny. This is a man of God and it upsets me to no end that people are poking fun at him for preaching The Word.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 21, 2013 at 5:19 pm #

      You chose an absurd example. Perhaps you are mocking me by agreeing too much with me? The Man is ridiculous even before the sound effects were added. He is begging to be mocked.

      I sense a judo throw here.

  28. Lord Blaby of Lawson December 22, 2013 at 10:04 am #

    Continuing with my possible brush with abduction from my youth story, I didn’t spell out the moral of it, if there is a moral.

    I crossed the street after he slowly pulled away while judiciously exercising my peripheral vision and keenly focused hearing to ensure he continued in that direction. After crossing, I feigned as though I was going to where I said I lived until he was well out of sight, and then I made a mad dash for home and didn’t breath easier until I was behind the locked doors of my abode. I never said anything to anyone about it, and certainly never reported it. I didn’t get the license number of the car, so even if I did report it, more than likely nothing would have come of it. But my primal instinct told me that had I gotten in that car, I wouldn’t have come home. He would have killed me and most likely my body would never have been found. I would have been a sad statistic; yet one more missing child.

    • Lord Blaby of Lawson December 22, 2013 at 10:34 am #

      But let’s suppose I did get the license plate and I told my parents and they contacted the police and decided to press charges. Primal instinct is not admissible as evidence, so absent that, this guy could claim he was just trying to be a good person, a good Samaritan; offering me a warm ride home and sheltering me from the cold, bitter air. He could have easily cast doubt on suspicion of his intent let alone shadows of that doubt. There would be no way to prove the intent of this predator; that he was trying to lure me to my certain, cold, bitter death at his hands. And so, this one incident reveals the many dimensions of doubt. I doubted the sincerity of his entreaties to me and he in turn, if charges were brought, could have cast doubt on assertions that his intent was anything other than what he stated it was; a kind gesture.

      What’s most unnerving of all about this formative event in my life is that I’m left with the lingering horror of knowing this person most likely succeeded with some of his prey, and more than likely, some who were faced with the same situation that I was, have been missing for all these years while this creature still walks the Earth without being held to account. He could even frequent discussion forums and defend fellow predators; comrades in arms who can sense one another and form an unacknowledged, yet implicit fellowship of sorts, always offering support when one of their own is chastised for their transgressions.

  29. progress4what December 22, 2013 at 10:46 am #


  30. progress4what December 22, 2013 at 10:48 am #

    “Ok lets be clear. I’m convinced you are a government troll. You have given me evidence to support my position. We are not friends. Wagelaborer made a farewell post which I read and it has been lost and I think you know all about it.” ….k-dog….

    First, let’s take a look at the situation in Wage’s own words and Mika’s own words, from Wage’s own blog comment section:

    “Blogger Methuselah said…
    Hi Wage,
    Haven’t heard from you lately at CFN. I hope all is well. (snip)
    March 11, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    Blogger wagelaborer said…
    Hey! Thanks, mika.
    I guess you missed the part where I was banished from CFN. I told Prog about it and he posted it. (snip)
    March 11, 2012 at 11:05 PM

    Blogger Metuselah said…
    I just don’t believe Mr. K. intentionally banned you. I think it has more to do with his software. Just log in with a different handle.
    March 14, 2012 at 5:43 PM”


    More in a while. Gotta’ run p/u the grandbaby.

  31. progress4what December 22, 2013 at 1:23 pm #

    And, K-dog, I wasn’t saying you were paranoid as an insult. I’m no psychologist, but maybe I can help you a little bit, here.

    I am not a government troll. I’m just not. And I never have been.

    So – every piece of “evidence” you have for that is simply manufactured in your own mind. (Unless, some other person is using me to “get” to you – which seems unlikely.)

    I’ve been posting to CFN since the Macondo well blow-out in the Gulf. Needing to vent about that, and peak oil generally, is what brought me to CFN. That’s a long history of posting and a lot of personal thought and details. WHY would a government troll go to that much trouble? Especially since most of my posts essentially support JHK’s body of work AND the collapse/peak everything theme?

    And you imply that I should have a blog, and have my personal information splayed all over the internet to prove I’m a “real person” with “nothing to hide.” Well, sorry, I’m not going to do that. I’ve posted my email address to CFN a couple of times, and that’s as far as I’m going to go. You can write me and I’ll write you back. I’ll even call you, if you’ll give me your phone number.

    And anyway – what would there to be to stop a government troll from creating an entire online identity – complete with blogs and family photos – to trick the non-paranoid?

    Which means that if I’m a female, 20-something Federal agent with a Canadian accent – I would ALSO have the voice synthesizing equipment to make myself sound, on the phone, like a middle-aged male with a Southern accent, so as to match my CFN “posting persona.”

    So – the phone call won’t satisfy you either, I suppose.

    Oh well.

    • K-Dog December 22, 2013 at 2:09 pm #

      So call me. You can figure out how to ask me what my phone number is. I have a website.

      • K-Dog December 22, 2013 at 2:15 pm #

        Go to the ‘other page’. Right under “K-Dogs Page of Links

      • Janos Skorenzy December 22, 2013 at 4:08 pm #

        Good work on Lord Blaby. His Wikipedia page is very interesting. You have rendered a service to the community once again. That being said, you do just make things up in your mind without realizing it. Confabulation in other words. A mindfulness type meditation practice might help you see when you are doing it – and help with the paranoid feelings. And again, that doesn’t mean you are wrong about everything. That’s why I prefaced this with praise. Paranoid people can have real enemies.

  32. BackRowHeckler December 22, 2013 at 3:54 pm #

    The Christmas Spirit is in high gear, ‘specially in our cities. I don’t know how many people have been shot and stabbed so far this weekend in Hartford and New Haven, at least a half dozen. Down in the south end of Hartford a woman garrotted her boyfriend to death then called police to report a case of spousal abuse. Another way to celebrate the birth of Jesus and the winter equinox is to set your neighbors house on fire — this is popular with our fellow citizens from the West Indies.


    • Janos Skorenzy December 22, 2013 at 4:02 pm #

      Start wearing your camos to scare people and to support the Duck Dynasty. Even to Church.

  33. Janos Skorenzy December 22, 2013 at 4:21 pm #

    White Liberal punks herself. I love it! White Pride is repressed and like all repressions comes out inappropriately. So we have a contradiction, a binary, a thesis and antithesis. So what is the solution, the ternary, the synthesis? Do we go down and crack down on Whites and White Culture even more? Or do we go up and allow Whites to feel pride again – as all healthy peoples do?


  34. Dave December 22, 2013 at 5:24 pm #

    @ Lord Blaby said: “He could even frequent discussion forums and defend fellow predators; comrades in arms who can sense one another and form an unacknowledged, yet implicit fellowship of sorts, always offering support when one of their own is chastised for their transgressions.”


    Lord, you don’t know how close you are. Or maybe you do. Your instinct appears to have happened upon a ring of sorts. It would explain why no one has expressed any interest in your latest line of research and has instead changed the subject, ignored you, or attacked you. Please feel comforted in the fact that we are aware and are on the case. Keep sleuthing. We need more upstanding citizens like you on the case if we’re to put a stop to the epidemic predation. As for Janos, well let’s just say birds of a feather flock together.


  35. progress4what December 22, 2013 at 6:43 pm #

    I wrote you an email, K-dog. Write me back and we’ll see how it goes.

    On another note, I’m never going to get used to these nested comments and the jumbled chronology that these nested comments produce. Some of you seem to be adapting to it pretty well.

    So is Lord Blaby really a retired MP and a British Lord? That seems unlikely.

    And who the hell is “Dave,” all of a sudden? And that moniker is designed just to screw with certain poster’s minds, you know?

    • Janos Skorenzy December 22, 2013 at 6:57 pm #

      Why not? We are very important people here! Just ask Kdog. And yeah, what up with Baphomet? I’m the one who brought up Goldstein to begin with!

    • K-Dog December 23, 2013 at 1:10 am #

      And that moniker is designed just to screw with certain poster’s minds?

      Among a myriad of possibilities it could be!

  36. progress4what December 22, 2013 at 7:04 pm #

    I saw that Sacco story, Janos. My first thought was that she had a background in genetics – and her tweet was misunderstood.

    ” The researchers found that a genetic trait — found in 60 percent of African-Americans and 90 percent of Africans — makes HIV infection 40 percent more likely. The trait is virtually nonexistent in whites.”


    • Janos Skorenzy December 22, 2013 at 9:02 pm #

      Also apparently the Black Plague inoculated some Whites – especially in hard hit areas like England.

      I noticed you slipped into the hard facts in order to avoid the deep truth I presented about White guilt. Excellent misdirection. I was referring to Dave, but you too have come under the influence of Baphomet.

  37. progress4what December 22, 2013 at 7:05 pm #

    “Baphomet?” I have no idea what you’re talking about.

  38. Carl Grimes December 22, 2013 at 10:08 pm #

    What the Duck Dynasty thing shows there is small but powerful elite of cultural marxists, and they are determined to shut down free speech and debate in this country. Everyone is being forced to spout some party line in public or risk being fired or worse. Here the issue was homosexuality, and apparently the Soviet style apparatcheks have decided that there will absolutely no criticism of the anal retentive crowd What we’re losing is democracy as the country more and more resembles North Korea or some other third world place run by lunatics…

    • Janos Skorenzy December 23, 2013 at 12:05 am #

      Check out this quote by Theodore Dalyrmple. It explains everything in paragraph.

      Theodore Dalrymple: Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 23, 2013 at 12:56 am #

        And what is Negro intellectual equality but an “obvious lie”? And to assent to this is to cooperate with evil and to begin to become evil oneself.

      • Carl Grimes December 23, 2013 at 1:22 am #

        Right, that’s the way it looks

  39. chuckyzfr1 February 16, 2014 at 12:10 pm #

    I was a bank examiner in the late 90′s into the early 2000′s. The training for this job was exhaustive, and included some history of the US banking system and its past foibles, along with the regulatory “fixes” assigned after each. Even as a relatively young lad I remember thinking how flimsy and knee-jerk this whole system seemed. I left that job and opened my own business a few years before the wheels came off everything in ’08, and I’ve reflected many times since how I wish I could’ve been a bank examiner during those much more interesting times, and a small business owner during the previous period of relative prosperity. Such is life I suppose. Now, I’ve decided the old adage “if you can’t beat ‘em”….and currently work for a hedge fund. But all these new rules certainly smack of the old knee-jerk regulatory response to calamity. And while JHK asserts that Glass-Steagall kept everything copacetic in the banking industry for 66 years, I must beg to differ, as there was this little thing of “the S&L crisis” precipitated by speculative commercial construction funded by greedy and inattentive bankers….but I digress. As much as things change is as much as they stay the same…


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