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Hobbs Magaret is a regenerative cattle rancher in Central Oregon. Raised on the ranches of the Texas Panhandle and further educated at The University of Oregon, he has experienced two extremes of the contemporary American Experiment. Hobbs, his wife, and his daughter live in Sisters, Oregon, where they use regenerative and fossil fuel averse techniques to rehabilitate degraded ag land and sell beef directly to regional consumers. Visit his website at SistersCattleco.com and checkout his interesting videos at TikTok.

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7 Responses to “KunstlerCast 342 — Meet-up with “Collapse Rancher” Hobbs Magaret”

  1. Mostly Disagreeable March 25, 2021 at 9:59 pm #

    Thank you for interviewing this intelligent rancher who understands that agriculture, including ranching, is one of the cooperative arts, along with healing and education.

    Technophiles have imposed an industrial arts model on the cooperative arts and nearly destroyed nutrition, health, and intelligence in so doing. They will not stop until the implacable authorities of time and nature come a callin’.

    Post-collapse, the cooperative arts will refound themselves through the wisdom of regeneration. Wendell Berry would respect Mr. Magaret.

    Great podcast!

  2. 100th Avatar March 26, 2021 at 9:11 am #

    I did not expect to be interested by this podcast’s subject matter as much as I found myself while enjoying it.

    Hobbs twice made a very intriguing point, at least for me. A particular phenomenon he has experienced among the ranching/er subculture:

    The tendency to promote the accouterments, the lifestyle markers, over the mission, over the objective. He diplomatically suggests that it may be a result of a brain-drain from this cohort.

    I cannot help but feel that this is a phenomenon invading numerous aspects of our world.


    It is everywhere.
    It pervades.

    It goes back to my belief that people are most interested in crafting an avatar. An ideal self.
    So as to be identifiable to an ideal tribe. To be part of something both bigger, but intimate.
    To have a purpose.

    A part of human nature that we cannot escape.
    It began on their virtual-self, the painstaking crafting they present in the internet dimension, and has spilt over to the analog.
    How to overcome the cognitive dissonance?
    Make it real, or at least appear genuine.

    I encounter it far too often now in my professional life to be able to dismiss it as immaturity or the behavior of the superficial. The cladding rivals the armature. Bona fides replaced, or re-constituted, by facile overtures to something more. Fake it ’til you make it.
    The operational becomes secondary. The illusion becomes primary.

    I witness it in my social life far too often to attribute it to a generation that refuses to grow up. I remember old podcasts where Jim would riff on overgrown teen men in silly clothes with silly tattoos.
    It goes deeper than that now. The importance of identity in a subclass. Why does the chef-de-partie have a tattoo of a cleaver on his forearm?
    A fondness for the tool?
    Or an advertisement to the world.
    Who he is.

    How do we look the part?
    How do we make people believe we play the part?

    From politics to the plains.
    The tenuous evidence.
    That we are to believe from you, or from the regime.
    The absurdity. The hypocrisy.
    They believe it, and you are forced to.

    Simply because they embrace the role. The markers.
    They overload the superficial. The window dressing.

    Perhaps this is why everything around us is dying.
    From the seas to the savanna.
    There is no broader goal, but to be believed.

    • lateStarter March 29, 2021 at 12:57 pm #

      That was a very well thought out comment. I appreciate the work that went into it. I will listen to the conversation later tonight.

  3. JMMorgan April 2, 2021 at 5:49 pm #

    Thanks, very interesting!

  4. gvozd April 13, 2021 at 3:25 am #

    An interesting and relevant interview.

  5. RFC2307 April 27, 2021 at 3:07 pm #

    This is wholly reminiscent of Bill Mollison’s excellent body of work, “an Introduction to Permaculture”.from back in 2002


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