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P. Robert Thorson's avatar

I think we're well past the point of words, political, legal or dialogue processes solving many problems. The Plandemic drew a distinct line in the sand that .gov will find is quite a minefield of violence if crossed. Meanwhile, the sideshow of lawfare and other distractions takes focus from the other predicaments of The Long Emergency. We'll most likely find out the reality of economic decline, contraction, and the rise in numbers of those "who have nothing to lose" will create new pressures that engulf what passes as "issues" in today's news.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

"...and the rise in numbers of those 'who have nothing to lose'..." ~ P. Robert Thorson

That's probably the critical threshold right there insofar as enough people feeling they have nothing to lose may then feel the freedom to make some groundbreaking changes they wouldn't have otherwise.

As long as enough people are comfy enough, however, things that could lead to their uncomfyness won't be addressed, at least sufficiently, if at all, to make any difference.

I'm waiting for and curious about the time, if it comes, when the American pressure-cooker lid finally blows off, and what's going to be the spark, or if America simply fizzles away in a long-drawn-out process.

They say that freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. Could be.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Yes Zazzy, and "those who have nothing to lose", at least once had something. So, they'll be more incendiary and have a relentless will to fight.

The reliance upon our replacements, from without our borders, to overtake us will fall short.

Having never had anything, they've lost nothing - their fire not burning as hot.

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Lugh's avatar

Nicely put. It all comes down to force. Not the Black robes, nor the Blacks, but the black rifles will decide.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

That's a very good point, Ron, the concept of relativity, such as what one loses, relative to what they had as extra motivation.

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P. Robert Thorson's avatar

The last 25 years has seen a economic roller coaster of "squeeze, release.....squeeze, release" - especially for the lower classes. The Dot.Com bubble, 9-11, the 2008 downturn, curious equity flow issues, the rise of the crypto scams, the Plandemic, etc. While some are saying be patient, I think Trump 2.0's honeymoon is drawing to a close. The actions coming out of the administration are too little, and way too late - and the wrong ones - to help out a totally beaten down blue collar worker.

There's little to no resilience left in many parts of the economy, at least in terms of supporting the higher standard of living we've enjoyed in the U.S. for the last 80 years. It appears that several sharp lurches downward are imminent, and I think tariffs will be the catalyst/scapegoat blamed when it fact the foundation has been crumbling for decades. I think the only thing left to debate is whether the policies have been intentional to bring about a crash, or more "organic" as how other collapses of civilizations are described.

The working man won't care about the causes - he'll just be in reaction mode, and that probably won't be pretty.

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Madfoxx22's avatar

I think Trump should go full on bull in China shop on the deep state. The majority of Americans would be behind him, damn the torpedoes! Go full berserker on them and get it over with. We have had enough.

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Lugh's avatar

We can't make them do anything. Nor the Russians. We have to negotiate - and that means understanding the above.

Find the people who off shored our industrial base to China and hang them.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

That could be another card played or not played that either brings down the house of cards or keeps it up, at least a little longer.

Popcorn times...

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

Part of Trump's election platform was about the 'working man'. The moment the working man sees Trump as not living up to his end of the bargain could be what blows the lid off America. Working men are, generally, a tough, no-bullshit lot. Recall our Trucker Protest here in Canada. They deliver the food that goes on our tables. Ya, sure, the gov't dicked around with their bank accounts, but that was gesturally-token, no pun intended. Maybe keep tabs on what the average working men and women say about their clock ticking for Trump.

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Lugh's avatar

They cling to their hero even as he talks about our great illegal immigrants. Same thing as last time. He never intended to throw them all out.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

Let Trump make some kinds of 'mistakes' that directly and adversely affect the working men and women and we'll see what happens.

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Agent-86's avatar

That closely relates to the surprising popularity of the Luigi Mangione fan club. Could they be those who have nothing to lose?

Even if not, it indicates that there may be more than a few other Luigis.

Regarding the foreign invaders, they are only in it for the money, and as soon as that stops or becomes worthless, they are done. The same for any other hired mercenaries too.

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