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Yirgach's avatar

How would you know that oil/gas are running out? Yet they keep finding more.

Maybe it is abiogenic. Anything found below 15000 ft depth is definitely not organic and as the technology improves we find new sources below that depth. How else to explain?

That only reason to explain that it will take a long time to replace fossil is over regulation. It's not that complicated.

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JohnAZ's avatar

The closer you get to the mantle the hotter it gets. Oil is the product of carbon-hydrogen chains that form only at certain temperatures. Too hot and it turns into natural gas as its structures breaks down into small carbon chains and vaporizes. Any closer to the mantle and the chains break down totally. If there was carbon present in the mantle and core, would we have heard of it? Right now, the only entity that assembles carbon into complex chains such as proteins and rings such as sugars if life itself.

Also, the depletion of easy to get oil makes us need to use much more expensive methods of getting it. When I was a teen, gasoline was 18 cents a gallon. It is now 3-5 dollars a gallon. I wonder why? As JHK has noted, fracking and deep sea rigs cost millions. When the first oil well, (Drake) was drilled, he stuck a pole into the ground to get it. Easy access to oil is just about over, the soda straws are drying up.

Abiotic oil would would need carbon chain assembly as it comes out of the mantle as free carbon, and its assembly would require hydrogenation also. If that was possible, why wouldn’t we just assemble chains here, now. Again, life is the only entity that assembles complex carbon structures.

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Yirgach's avatar

Oil is a necessary product for modern civilization, limited resources should be used for priority purposes and bridging strategies.

This relationship is not well understood.

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Alzaebo's avatar

It is abiotic, but the refill rate is unfortunately the sticking point. Excruciatingly slow, due to its geologic nature. We still have used up the easy-to-reach oil, and squander the fumes (natgas).

Also, much of it is not admitted to, to cause scarcity; this must be the same reason we don't build new refineries for differing grades, as refineries are a very mature technology. Once the US Geologic Service found out the desert states of the Western US are floating on a sea of oil, they shut down nearly all oil surveying. The USGS claims it's unnecessary because, why, there's nothing there to survey.

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JohnAZ's avatar

You will have to prove abiotic as no data supports it. How come the reservoirs around the world do not just fill back up, making more expansive, expensive, and dangerous oil exploration necessary?

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