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Pnoldguy's avatar

Maybe there is no pick for the FBI because one of the great cost cutting measures is the elimination of the Eff-Bee-Eye and it's 40,000 brownshirts. We don't need 17 "intelligence agencies" spread across the country to harass everyone that went to a rally on J6. Shut it down and proclaim the day Ashli Babbet day.

We can only hope at this point.

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RAY FALCIOLA's avatar

It's an valid idea. How to you throw out the bath water but save the baby? An institution that was virtually founded on the principles of black mail by Mr "Dirty Pics" himself (J Edgar Hoover) has a many decades institutional culture that's nearly impossible to clear with anything less than a clean burn and rebuild. Is that even possible? LOTS of good and talented people in the organization and LOTS of necessary capability it would suck to discard. But how does one root out and cleans the culture of mutual blackmail?

I always think about Whitney Webb's "One Nation Under Blackmail" books. The title says it all. Everyone has dirt on everyone else and the FBI is the face of that paradigm starting with J Edgar. When a president can't fire a director without bracing for impeachment you know you have a problem

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SusanMc's avatar

Once again a comment is cut off in mid sentence.

Happening a lot lately.

Also various links to videos, etc not working.

One even disappeared after clicking on.

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Not That тАЬKarenтАЭ's avatar

Are you viewing it in the app on your phone. I use the app on my iPhone and for the last 2-3 days, when I attempt to click on a link, it ends up collapsing the entire comment and I have also notice comments that appear to be cut off

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Media Luna's avatar

My solution to clicking on links has been to place my finger on the link and hold it there, keep on pressing. A pop up windows will appear that gives you the option to go to the link. Try it.

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SusanMc's avatar

Yes, using the Substack app on my iPhone

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CactusMatt32's avatar

I have found it good to compose in Word, then copy & paste to my comment. No typos & hard to тАШdisappearтАЩ depending on what cookiebots are active on my browserтАж

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Pnoldguy's avatar

Speaking of cut off

CactusMatt32

10:31 AM

I have found it good to compose in Word, then copy & paste to my comment. No typos & hard to 'disappear' depending on what cookiebots are active on my.

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FabChic's avatar

Glad to hear itтАЩs not just me. Thought I was doing something wrong

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Cathy 98280's avatar

Did you say doing тАЬsomething wrong?тАЭтАЩcause that disappeared on my phone тАж ЁЯШм

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FabChic's avatar

Phone? Yep, lost your last word too.

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bvd9701's avatar

Clean burn.

No rebuild.

Lengthy prison sentences for treason.

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Jer's avatar

Except for the fact that BOTH impeachments were FAKE...false pretences. The first one was for Trump getting rid of their cover-up man...the second for a FAKE FED-surrection that porklosi herself planned with several of her DEMONIC, REPTILIAN friends/SOCIOPATHS!

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RAY FALCIOLA's avatar

Lawfare in the pursuit of lawlessness pressed forward by lawless thugs funded by our extorted taxes.

Staged show trials based on specious charges with predetermined outcomes were a fav of the Bolshevik Stalinist commies. Murder and suppression by "rule of law". That gavel would swing then off to an appointment with a pistol and that's that. Or if you were "lucky" you might be sent to the Gulag with a near certainty of death but of course in the service of "the greater good" which in that case was to move Russia from the peasant agrarian era to the industrial era in an insanely short time all while thinning the herd of the bad people. Such synergy.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Here's how Mr. Trump should handle the EFF-BEE-EYE. The day after inauguration he needs to send a notice to the 40,000 brownshirts and tell them they have one year notice. He'll give them one year of severance pay. Plenty of time for these thugs to go find employment in their states and local cities. Then, shut it down. Gone. Make it like a fart in the wind. Poof. The stink vanishes.

Ah, the dreams. If only.

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John's avatar

Skip the severance and hope they don't infest local law enforcement.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

The severance would give him the "mercy" points. That's all.

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Pnoldguy's avatar

What's wrong with unemployment the rest of us have to be happy with?

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astera's avatar

"tell them they have one year notice"

One year? ONE YEAR??? That's one year too many to destroy docs and otherwise subvert any investigation into their shenanigans.

Pink-slip them on the spot, effective immediately.

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RAY FALCIOLA's avatar

Going to take a very hi wind to clear that fart away. It's been festering decades like 2 month old cabbage

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Why? Is Federal Law Enforcement clearly mandated in the Constitution? If it is then great. If it not, or if it is authorized by some vacuous claim to the oft used "commerce clause" then law enforcement should be left to the individual states as required by the 10th Amendment.

We either abide by the law of this land or we don't. If it is not specifically in the Constitution then it belongs to the states. Pissing around with federal authority is what got us into this mess in the first place.

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Henry's avatar

This is the point that should be made over and over again until it hurts. DJT needs to explain his every move by starting with a reminder that the Constitution grants the federal government limited and proscribed powers. Everything else is unconstitutional and that will justify elimination. Choosing the Education Dept. as the first target is brilliant. It's a good start. FBI would make a great second.

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RAY FALCIOLA's avatar

Sacred cows like DOE need bursting. If you don't challenge the sacred cows it is all

Same as it ever was

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wilson's avatar

Not defending the f.b.i. but one of the reasons for the f.b.i. was rob a bank or some other crime in one state, flee to another and be home free. Although the Pinkerton's were kind of an f.b.I. and did well from what I have read. There's also crimes that states can't deal very well with. I don't know the answer except that the f.b.i. and the other three letter agencies have grown into untouchable unaccountable principalities all of their own and something has to be done to rein them in.

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RAY FALCIOLA's avatar

When presidents tremble at the prospect of firing a clearly rogue FBI director you know it is far past time for them to get re-calibrated

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Natasha's avatar

Flat bed trucks loaded with cement barriers statically located at EFF BEE EYE headquarters, use the barriers to deny access, you're all fired! You might be rehired after a through review. No subversives allowed.

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Cheryl's avatar

Amen

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RAY FALCIOLA's avatar

Good point. The first slip on the endlessly slippery slope is justified by "just this one time exception because this event is exceptional"

So much evil has been perp'd on that lie. LIKE THE PATRIOT ACT. You know, we got to suspend normal civil rights because of the outlier anomalous attack.

Nice try. And to be fair IT WORKED. But the red flag tip off should have been no cry and demand to GET TO THE BOTTOM OF 9/11. We'll start with the easy stuff like "How the F does building 7 just fall down all by itself?". You don't even need to get caught in the weeds of the main 2 towers. JUST FOR STARTERS how and why did building 7 fall? After getting a whole lot of "nothing to see hear, non of your business, it's a national security secret" we end up with the Patriot act and everything is worse liberty wise than before 9/11

And the covid thing? EUA for everyone for no other than "the government said it is necessary". Now we have a world full of medical ticking time bombs.

So I am with you. Nuke the FBI or at the very least in the spirit of "The art of the deal" tell them slithering snake SOBs

"Here's the deal, either you bastards come RADICALLY clean or well nuke the lot of you. If you come clean and prove you're more good then enemy we may rehire you after firing you. In either case most of you prepare to exit and if you're good boys and girls you may get a job back, not necessarily the one you thought you should have. Think about it and come back with your answer and we'll see if we can make a deal"

We need to remember. THEY WORK FOR US!

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JohnAZ's avatar

What Federal Law enforcement? Other than invading homes without warrants and avoiding doing anything about sociopathic kids, what do they do? They are the basis of Lawfare and for that reason alone should be disbanded.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Take down the websites of prominent thinkers and writers like James Howard Kunstler. That's what they do.

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John's avatar

They tried.

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John's avatar

Lots of stuff _they enable sex trafficking, drug trafficking, cover for Commies, stage Insurrection, lots of stuff.

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William Voelz's avatar

BB. Kash is too smart to take that bait.

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John's avatar

Why?

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SocratesDetroit's avatar

And declassify JFK's assassination file (if there is one).

BTW, JFK was the last US President to be independent of Israel, and skeptical of Israel, and concerned about the prospect of Israel acquiring nuclear weapons (with France's help). Perhaps that is why his term was cut short? Maybe it was not the mob, or Cuba.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

JFK was an immoral pig, but, I believe he was the last President who actually tried to be President. He tried to eliminate the CIA. He tried to keep us on the gold standard for our money. He tried to keep us out of Vietnam. And yes, he wasn't controlled by the Israeli mafia. As a human being he was a pathetic wretch. As a President, at least he tried to do best by America and for that they shot him through the head.

God I hope this doesn't happen to Mr. Trump.

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William Voelz's avatar

Canker. Trump is challenging the SAME deep state JFK did. Likely with the same results. Bullets last time, slow motion lawsuits this time. Either way a neutered Executive Branch.

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UncleBob9's avatar

Nixon was taken out for not playing ball and threatening to expose the dirtbags who run Washington; he "rehabilitated" himself by kissing their asses once he was out of office. They feared Reagan would do the same as Kennedy, so he was shot. Later, they reminded him of who was in charge with the Iran-Contra dog and pony show.

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Lugh's avatar

If every Republican congressman has an AI-PAC buddy who tells them how to vote on Israeli questions (and where exactly does that stop?), shouldn't we get to know their names, since they are the real congressmen we need to talk to, not the wooden dummies.

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Natalie O.'s avatar

The assassination attempt was a hoax, and Mr Trump has the support of the deep state to make him look like a hero. HereтАЩs the proof:

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Mr. No's avatar

Thank you for calling attention to this website (www.unz.com). I've bookmarked it. Others should too.

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My Friend Lisa's avatar

Incredible website

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John's avatar

Unz publishes idiotic Jew Hate crapola, and he has never published his first worthwhile article.

Much of what he posts is totally false, and it's all twisted from reity.

The most spaced out Biden voting cat lady isn't as shamefully ignorant aa a typical Jew Hater, and Fakestinian. Supporters are too gullible to be real, their mere existence defies credibility

But the lather won't end until Armegeddon, when they will burn with the rest of the trash.

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Lugh's avatar

Mr Unz is a true Jewish American patriot, with a spirit of liberty like unto the Fathers. A true liberal, conservative, patriot, and lover of truth. For this reason, he publishes the work of other patriots, including White Nationalists needless to say.

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astera's avatar

"Unz publishes idiotic Jew Hate crapola"

Ummm...Ron Unz IS jewish.

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wilson's avatar

great website. let's just say my eyes have been opened the last many years and this was part of the process.

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Eckbach's avatar

France built the Dimona reactor, but "Israel" got it's heavy water from Norway which was a byproduct of Norway's production of ammonia for fertilizer. The process requires copious electricity of which Norway had/has abundant supply from never-ending hydro sources.

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Norway-produce-large-amounts-of-heavy-water-before-1939

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/the-us-discovery-israels-secret-nuclear-project

The waters of Dimon shall be full of blood... Isaiah 15:9

The word Dimon is from the two letter root DM which means "blood" and "silent" because when blood is shed the bleeder becomes dead, thus silent.

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Abbybwood's avatar

Speaking of nukes, since President-elect Trump advised Israel to hit IranтАЩs nuclear sites, they have since gone to the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) and requested inspections of all its nuclear sites.

While the IAEA is in Iran, they should also send a team to Israel to do inspections of ALL its nuclear sites, including their 400-700 nuclear weapons. The same sites Israel refused JFK to inspect.

By now the entire world knows Israel has nukes on land and in submarines, especially Congress. They all want to giggle and wink and act like itтАЩs a тАЬsecretтАЭ. ItтАЩs not.

Once that nuclear cat is out of the bag, Congress will be forced to debate our current law prohibiting the U.S. from selling/giving military equipment/funds etc. to any state with nuclear weapons that does not allow inspections.

Mr. Trump may have a dandy team for domestic clean-up, but his foreign policy team of Rubio, Stefanik, Huckabee, Hegseth etc. may cause him (and the rest of the planet) some major headaches and lost sleep.

What argument will Congress, Trump and Co. have to oppose inspections of IsraelтАЩs nuclear тАЬfacilitiesтАЭ? I hope and pray this day comes.

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SocratesDetroit's avatar

The more I learn the less I know. People I consider credible, whose exact names I cannot recall (I think Col. McGregor, former Marine Scott Ritter, maybe Prof. John Mearsheimer, some Greek analysts) have generally said that "much of Iran's nuclear program is buried deeply underground, and is extremely difficult to impossible to be taken out". Maybe they all "piggyback" off each other. But they make sense to me, in the same context that the book "The Long Emergency" made sense. Some one posited that Israel could use nukes and then blame the radioactivity on the "destroyed nuclear facilities". I would not be surprised.

Trump (and ALL his predecessors) and Congress are all beholden to AIPAC. That is your reason why they look the other way at Israel's nuclear program and allow Israel to flout US "non-proliferation" laws.

And Trump adeptly took out the ONE INDEPENDENT THINKING Congressman, Thomas Massie, R-KY, by proposing he be Secretary of Agriculture. The only Congressman not under AIPAC's spell (BTW, his wife died unexpectedly early this year). Since AIPAC couldn't get him voted out, they had him "promoted" out.

The thing is, if/when the US/Israel attacks Iran's nuclear program, we do not know how Russia and China may react, but I don't think they can just sit and watch and shrug their shoulders.

This is a very fraught time. Unlike WW1, when bi-planes dropped the equivalent of grenades and the Germans' Big Bertha cannon had a 50-mile range, both the destructive power and the speed of events move much faster now. And warfare itself is evolving rapidly, as AI and microprocessors are enabling inexpensive, effective drones. I just read a fascinating book about the war between Azerbaijan (winner) an Armenia (loser) in 2020. THAT war presaged techniques used by Israel (no surprise since Israel, with Turkey, armed Azerbaijan) against the Palestinians and Hezbollah, by Hezbollah and Iran against Israel, and by Russia and Ukraine against each other. Warfare has evolved--and the US may find it is not ready for the war it is going to unleash in the Middle East, using million-dollar missiles to defend against thousand-dollar drones or missiles (hitting a cheap Iranian bullet with a very expensive US/Israeli bullet). At the same time, the West in general, and the US in particular, as technologically advanced societies, have many soft points at home... electricity, plastic money, running water, potentially violent alien populations, just-in-time inventory control. I'm sure several CFNers here can add to my list of soft spots or weak points. Lots could happen....

And no matter how one packages the facts, at the end of the day, the reality is the Israelis have abused the Palestinians for decades, are trying to eliminate them now, in the process committing numerous crimes, and having failed to remove them from Gaza, are escalating in the hope of dominating the Middle East together with the US, and also to take the spotlight off of Gaza and the West Bank.

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JohnAZ's avatar

War is attrition, of weapons and more, soldiers. The side that runs out of either loses. The world changes to the mode of the winner. That is the Fourth Turning and the history of Man.

What happens when AI, drones and robots do the fighting?

Maybe perpetual war? Like Afghanistan, Middle East and Ukraine?

Story today says that Germany is talking to Russia directly, halting the impasse.

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russell buskirk's avatar

"The less you know"?

Massie's wife died from cancer

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SocratesDetroit's avatar

2. Can you provide a source, even an internet source, stating Rhonda Massie died of cancer? I do not recall her dying of cancer, and the two-three links that came up on Google stated that "Rep Massie did not give her cause of death".

I would add the links said that Rep Massie did not see "conspiracy" behind her "sudden death". I simply note the correlation between one of the few Congressmen not to vote in favor of Israeli aid 100% (that is not the same as 0%, mind you), and his wife's sudden passing.

1. Some times, the more I learn, the more I see there is more to the story, that I do not know.

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SocratesDetroit's avatar

"7 Seconds to Die" by John Antal. Good read, interesting analysis of the interesting "analysis of the second Nagorno-Karabakh War". Some commenter on some blog (maybe here?) mentioned it, I scratched it on a post it note and read it.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, the Deal seems to be clean up America domestically, but the grift goes on in terms of foreign policy. Now they're talking about annexing the entire West Bank. Will Iran have to compromise its principles and strike Israeli communities there in order to stop this?

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astera's avatar

@Eckbach

You left out, Israel got its enriched uranium for Dimona (at least in part) from NUMEC. Right here in the good'ol USA.

Look it up.

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Eckbach's avatar

I didn't say anything about enriched uranium. My comment was about heavy water (which is necessary to enrich uranium).

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astera's avatar

Very well, just explaining that Israel happened to (also) get already-enriched uranium from NUMEC (see "Apollo project"), from a corrupt jewish-zionist-American.

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John's avatar

Anyone who doubts Israel is in dire need of finding out what they are on about.

There is zero validity whatsoever to the Satanic UN Fakestinian scam and there is no excuse for being so utterly ignorant and gullible to think there might be a vestige of reality to the actual Genocidal Entity as publicly proclaimed by the 'Slimes for 76 years and more!

And that ignores the fundamental realuty that their own fake Bible tells them clearly that Israel belongs to the Jews because God gave it to them.

Kennedys stance was ignorant and foolish and could well be why God did not protect him.

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Jim Harmon's avatar

JFK ticked off the CIA. That was his fatal mistake.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Rumor mill has it that the deals made between Joe Kennedy and the mafioso in Chicago and New York to get JFK elected (Giordino and Costello, I believe) involved Allan Dulles' CIA. Not only did he promise "hands off" the Mob but the retaking of Havana Cuba for the Mob. Kennedy tried and failed on the latter promise and when 1. he did not stop Bobby from going after the Mob and 2. he wanted to withdraw troops from the Vietnam "advisory role", his goose was cooked. They got away with it. Watch out Trump, RFK,Jr., Tulsi, etc., these Deep State aholes are capable of anything.

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UncleBob9's avatar

Whose fake Bible? If you believe in the Bible the Christian church follows, then you accept the Old Testament because it's part of the book. If you're talking about the Koran, that's different, though the Koran is a mirror of the Bible told from the perspective of people who worship a different God, despite what its followers state (no doubt because it teaches that lying is perfectly fine when the audience is an infidel).

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JohnAZ's avatar

I read a report stating that the FBI is a target for DOGE. It will be another worthless agency to be relegated to the states, along with education.

How many shootings would have been avoided with a тАЬrealтАЭ FBI?

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Wallfacer's avatar

You want to keep stuff like the statistical portions and Behavioral Sciences Unit, but you can also move that to other agencies. But most of the agents and the Agency itself needs to be totally disbanded. Many of the individual agents need to be investigated for civil rights crimes. Probably many need to go to prison.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

I agree, and have proposed for almost two years now that J6 be declared a national holiday to honor the election fraud protestors so unfairly imprisoned due to the Pelosi/FBI entrapment scheme:

https://patrick.net/post/1378157/2023-01-01-january-6th-should-be-a-national

They are true national heroes. The FBI must be eliminated as it is now obviously nothing but a criminal organization. Pelosi herself must serve time for arranging the entrapment operation, and all of the FBI agents planted in the crowd to smash things up must also be prosecuted.

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jewel's avatar

explanation I read was Wray's appoint has 2 more years to run, or until Jan 21 and PDJT can fire him and nominate a new director, edging towards Kash Patel by the looks of it

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Cheryl's avatar

WouldnтАЩt that be amazing and wonderful

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Paving the Way's avatar

Sounds good. How might those orgs be rearranged?

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Miriamnae's avatar

Lined up in mass grave 3 layers deepтАж?

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Thomas Rice's avatar

Thats what they would do to folks like us if they could get away with it

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CactusMatt32's avatar

Ukraine & Lithuania are good at doing thatтАж.

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JohnAZ's avatar

What is 100 FBI agents on the bottom of the ocean?

You know!

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Wallfacer's avatar

Well for a realistic idea, you could place them within Federal Marshalls. The Marshalls mostly handle prisoners now, but this was not always the case. You could place stats, labs and Behavioral Science within the Marshalls.

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Michelle Lobdell's avatar

Cash Patel is "acting" FBI director. Interesting fact: legally, he can get people fired as "acting" but not as confirmed director of the FBI. Lets hope the 'crats keep delaying.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Like any Federal agency, the FBI should be limited to interstate crime and stay the hell out of local and state law enforcement. It has always been a great forensics support for the police of the country, and that should continue. Anything else, keep its nose out of it.

Also, no secrets, no тАЬI canтАЩt talk about ongoing casesтАЭ, the classic excuse for hiding political aims.

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Bill Quick's avatar

No it hasn't always been a great forensic support for local and state law enforcement. The problems with the crime lab were massive and resulted in the dismissal of hundreds or thousands of local cases.

https://whistleblowersblog.org/government-whistleblowers/intelligence-community-whistleblowers/dr-whitehurst-and-the-fbi-lab-scandal/amp/

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wilson's avatar

there was the f.b.i. lab that was caught falsifying evidence to get convictions. People believed the results because they were the f.b.i.

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