My mother in law got every covid shot and booster. She got thyroid cancer and now has full blown lymphoma.
My brother in law had non-hodgkins lymphoma before covid and has received every covid shot and booster since. He gets cancer screened every year and is still cancer free and running marathons.
My point? Who knows how it will affect any individual. The fact that they were trying to force us to take it was what made me run away as fast as I could. Nobody forces me to anything I don't want to do (except pay taxes, still trying to figure out how to resist that one without going to jail or losing the home I have bought and paid for and supposedly own in free America).
"I know of no one who died of so-called covid" It is something (death by covid) I think would be difficult to prove. However, propagandizing 'death by covid' and upping the fear factor leads quite a few to believe someone actually died from it.
Carrying it a step further, if we can agree it was really some sort of 'bad case of the flu' we can find people who died from covid, whatever it actually was.
Whatever it was, it has never been repeatedly identified in human tissue, which would be a basic exercise of scientific method (not the smoke and mirrors science). If it were, tissue samples could be brought to any reasonable laboratory for the 'virus' to be isolated within the tissue (as opposed to isolated in a computer model).
That's my point. If it were real, easy enough to prove. But no.
Get this: A friend of mine just drove all the way to Salt Lake City Utah, 7 hours away, for a hip replacement surgery. And when he got there, they told him he was "covid positive" and refused to do the surgery! So he lost all that money for travel, etc. and has to reschedule.
God only knows what he has, if anything.
Covid is a coronavirus, which causes a cold. In the early days of the covid hoax, many epidemiologists spoke out about how long it takes a pathogen to move through a community. It was 70 days.
So why, 5 years later, are people still "getting" covid? Or are they? I have my doubts. The testing and the diagnosing have always been suspect at best.
And were people's perception of being the most sick they've ever been just because they were told they had been handed what CNN screeched was practically a death sentence? And don't we always feel as if the current bout of flu we have is the "worst ever"? And wouldn't your flu be worse at 60 than at say, 40? Due to age?
All valid, keep in mind I never bought into it. The ostracization and subsequent loss of income was difficult. If there were do-overs in life I would still do the same.
Covid positive is the result of too many cycles of PCR which was 'never intended to diagnose anything' (Kary Mullis). The people who refuse to be confused by facts are a weight around the neck of society.
Unfortunate about your friend spending the time and money only to be turned away. Medical tyranny raises it's head when totalitarianism is rising.
Great points, wkenn (esp. re: totalitarianism). These are reasons why I consult a naturopath and why I've accepted that if I get any sort of illness I'll try to treat it guided by her, but if not, I'll accept my fate, because I never want any of the psychos in the "healthcare" (deathcare) industry anywhere near my body.
So far it's been great (knock wood).
Yes, medical tyranny is one of the massive holds they have on us.
And.....keep in mind many in the deathcare business are much more interested in making sure they follow the protocols of the genius' that taught them rather than trying to make sure their patient gets well. If you have gone to any of the recent grads of medical school, they would rather do anything---or nothing than give you and Rx for an antibiotic because all of their teachers told them giving and Rx for an antibiotic is not good unless you can be 1000% sure that the patient really needs it------rather than seeing a very sick patient and thinking there is a good chance this person needs an antibiotic but I am not 1000% sure so we will tell them to go home and see if they get better and if you survive that but do not get any better, come back in 10 days and we will see you again. Not even taking into consideration that in 10 days you may be dead from the infection and if you really needed an antibiotic you may be much sicker in 10 days and may need a much stronger antibiotic.
I heard that 2 of the people (kids I believe) who recently died from measles in Texas really died because at the same time they had measles they also developed puemonia (spelling) and the doctor thought it was viral rather than bacterial so he did not Rx an antibiotic. The poor kids died of the bacterial infection that could have been cured if he would have just given them the Rx to make sure they would be ok. He should lose his license.
"Deathcare." That is a suitable description of America's health care system.
I mentioned my mother-in-law in a comment ahead on this thread. She was "diagnosed" with thyroid cancer. The treatment was to isolate her in a room for 24 hours and inject highly radioactive iodine into her body to eradicate the thyroid cancer. Sound fun?
Sure, it killed the thyroid cancer but she now has full blown lymphoma. She's 76 and about to embark on a full treatment course of chemotherapy. You know, the cancer treatment where they inject poisons into your body and hope it kills off the cancer cells before it kills the patient off? One would think that after decades of cancer research and the billions spent thereon that they would have come up with a better, less toxic way to treat cancer than this?
Cancer treatment today involves burning the hell out of the patient with radiation, mutilating the patient by cutting off various body parts, or poisoning the hell out of the patient. With all the supposedly brilliant minds involved in oncology one would think someone would have come up with something better.
My mother went in for a routine mammogram years ago. They found some suspicious pre-cancerous tissues. She, being a bit of a tough-nut, told them straight up that they could burn her, they could mutilate her but she was not going to permit them to poison her. Boy did the nurses and oncologist throw a fit, how dare she question their methods! She stayed firm. They did radiation and a double mastectomy but she never had chemo. That was 15 years ago. She's turning 80 and still going strong. Did they save her with their mutilation? Maybe. Then again, maybe the suspicious pre-cancerous tissues would never have developed into full blown cancer. One thing is for certain. The older I get the more and more I am realizing how little I know and just how little everyone else actually knows. Especially the experts.
Covid is an enhanced engineered corona virus, made to be much worse than a cold. It is a novel virus, so comparisons do not matter. It is a warning to mankind that we should not be messing with Mother Nature.
Yet I totally agree with you what the power structure did with the failed bio-weapon. A totally good example of the evil inherent to government and its minions.
For me, I have had it twice, very sick feeling, lethargy. some joint pain, coughing, malaise, sleepy all the time, low grade fever, all immune system signs.
I have family and friends who have sequelae to either Covid, the jab or both. Autoimmune changes, both lupus related. Both under control now but---. My wife had a life long friend that succumbed to the virus. And only the virus.
OBTW, the Vaxx was a change in the medical community. The first law in the Hippocratic oath is "Do no harm". The Trumpian Warpspeed testing of the Vaxx was a medical denial of this primary tenet, that it is permissable to take a significant percentage of "hits" for political purposes. The Vaxx has:
1. Unlike polio shots and cubes, never been effective at preventing the disease as was promised.
2. Created many "adverse" effects, well documented, and ignored.
3. Shown the ability to modify DNA permanently and potentially provided a source for the continuing onslaught of the S protein against host syndromes.
The main onslaught of the whole Covid experience is the socialistic drive of the Deep State was exacerbated as the Feds took over the country through fear tactics. Now it looks like the changes may be permanent as Trump's desire to decentralizr power are meeting a cacophony of brick walls.
I feel suddenly like it is a replay of Adm. 1. All that is missing is the reversal of the House, by a bunch of fear mongering leftists, and the consequent impeachments that will follow.
I never caught the flu in a customs area in Puerto Vallarta, or in an airplane coach section going to Athens. This Covid is much more infectious than flu and spreads easily with airborne contamination, unlike the droplet flu. I have had flu once in my life, and it was muscular in nature. Covid, twice, same symptoms, nothing like the flu.
Aha, that is because it is not a major killer. It is the same effect as the flu, it is just easier to catch because it is airborne. IOW, you walk into an airplane where someone had Covid and sneezed, coughed, talked, smoked or sang and expressed virus into the air, you get it. Very different than flu.
My experience in Puerto Vallarta was in a large room where serpentine lines snaked into customs gates. The perfect spreading atmosphere for Covid, it just sits and waits for you.
You need to read Daniel Roytas' 'Can you catch a cold?', JAZ. A century or two of scientific experiments have failed to demonstrate the ability to infect a healthy person by a sick person. Contagion and infection in respiratory illnesses are faulty models encouraged for the specific purpose of invading the bodies of the peasants with vaccines.
The Common Cold Unit in the UK was set up in 1947. It closed its doors in 1989, having failed to demonstrate transmissibility of colds or flu between people.
Before that, the Rosenau experiments singularly failed to demonstrate transmission of the 1918 flu between people. We have been fed lies for a reason. Just like they make films like Contagion and Outbreak for a reason.
There is no Sars-CoV-2 virus, either from a bat/pangolin love tryst or cooked up in a lab in Wuhan. The lab-leak story is Tier-2 propaganda to keep people arguing about two theories, neither of which is true. People appear to have been made sick, but not by a virus.
I know plenty of people who appear to be dying or are negatively affected from the effects of the covid shot.
Mostly cancers.
My mother in law got every covid shot and booster. She got thyroid cancer and now has full blown lymphoma.
My brother in law had non-hodgkins lymphoma before covid and has received every covid shot and booster since. He gets cancer screened every year and is still cancer free and running marathons.
My point? Who knows how it will affect any individual. The fact that they were trying to force us to take it was what made me run away as fast as I could. Nobody forces me to anything I don't want to do (except pay taxes, still trying to figure out how to resist that one without going to jail or losing the home I have bought and paid for and supposedly own in free America).
Yep. If one were cynical, one might come to the conclusion that covid was a hoax set up just to push people (scare them) into getting the vaccine.
I also know people dying or damaged by the jab. I know of no one who died of so-called covid.
"I know of no one who died of so-called covid" It is something (death by covid) I think would be difficult to prove. However, propagandizing 'death by covid' and upping the fear factor leads quite a few to believe someone actually died from it.
Carrying it a step further, if we can agree it was really some sort of 'bad case of the flu' we can find people who died from covid, whatever it actually was.
Whatever it was, it has never been repeatedly identified in human tissue, which would be a basic exercise of scientific method (not the smoke and mirrors science). If it were, tissue samples could be brought to any reasonable laboratory for the 'virus' to be isolated within the tissue (as opposed to isolated in a computer model).
And yet, it wasn't.
That's my point. If it were real, easy enough to prove. But no.
Get this: A friend of mine just drove all the way to Salt Lake City Utah, 7 hours away, for a hip replacement surgery. And when he got there, they told him he was "covid positive" and refused to do the surgery! So he lost all that money for travel, etc. and has to reschedule.
God only knows what he has, if anything.
Covid is a coronavirus, which causes a cold. In the early days of the covid hoax, many epidemiologists spoke out about how long it takes a pathogen to move through a community. It was 70 days.
So why, 5 years later, are people still "getting" covid? Or are they? I have my doubts. The testing and the diagnosing have always been suspect at best.
And were people's perception of being the most sick they've ever been just because they were told they had been handed what CNN screeched was practically a death sentence? And don't we always feel as if the current bout of flu we have is the "worst ever"? And wouldn't your flu be worse at 60 than at say, 40? Due to age?
All valid, keep in mind I never bought into it. The ostracization and subsequent loss of income was difficult. If there were do-overs in life I would still do the same.
Covid positive is the result of too many cycles of PCR which was 'never intended to diagnose anything' (Kary Mullis). The people who refuse to be confused by facts are a weight around the neck of society.
Unfortunate about your friend spending the time and money only to be turned away. Medical tyranny raises it's head when totalitarianism is rising.
Great points, wkenn (esp. re: totalitarianism). These are reasons why I consult a naturopath and why I've accepted that if I get any sort of illness I'll try to treat it guided by her, but if not, I'll accept my fate, because I never want any of the psychos in the "healthcare" (deathcare) industry anywhere near my body.
So far it's been great (knock wood).
Yes, medical tyranny is one of the massive holds they have on us.
And.....keep in mind many in the deathcare business are much more interested in making sure they follow the protocols of the genius' that taught them rather than trying to make sure their patient gets well. If you have gone to any of the recent grads of medical school, they would rather do anything---or nothing than give you and Rx for an antibiotic because all of their teachers told them giving and Rx for an antibiotic is not good unless you can be 1000% sure that the patient really needs it------rather than seeing a very sick patient and thinking there is a good chance this person needs an antibiotic but I am not 1000% sure so we will tell them to go home and see if they get better and if you survive that but do not get any better, come back in 10 days and we will see you again. Not even taking into consideration that in 10 days you may be dead from the infection and if you really needed an antibiotic you may be much sicker in 10 days and may need a much stronger antibiotic.
I heard that 2 of the people (kids I believe) who recently died from measles in Texas really died because at the same time they had measles they also developed puemonia (spelling) and the doctor thought it was viral rather than bacterial so he did not Rx an antibiotic. The poor kids died of the bacterial infection that could have been cured if he would have just given them the Rx to make sure they would be ok. He should lose his license.
"Deathcare." That is a suitable description of America's health care system.
I mentioned my mother-in-law in a comment ahead on this thread. She was "diagnosed" with thyroid cancer. The treatment was to isolate her in a room for 24 hours and inject highly radioactive iodine into her body to eradicate the thyroid cancer. Sound fun?
Sure, it killed the thyroid cancer but she now has full blown lymphoma. She's 76 and about to embark on a full treatment course of chemotherapy. You know, the cancer treatment where they inject poisons into your body and hope it kills off the cancer cells before it kills the patient off? One would think that after decades of cancer research and the billions spent thereon that they would have come up with a better, less toxic way to treat cancer than this?
Cancer treatment today involves burning the hell out of the patient with radiation, mutilating the patient by cutting off various body parts, or poisoning the hell out of the patient. With all the supposedly brilliant minds involved in oncology one would think someone would have come up with something better.
Spot on - all of what you said! It's crazy and billions have been spent, over the course of decades, and they still use the same methods! Nuts.
My mother went in for a routine mammogram years ago. They found some suspicious pre-cancerous tissues. She, being a bit of a tough-nut, told them straight up that they could burn her, they could mutilate her but she was not going to permit them to poison her. Boy did the nurses and oncologist throw a fit, how dare she question their methods! She stayed firm. They did radiation and a double mastectomy but she never had chemo. That was 15 years ago. She's turning 80 and still going strong. Did they save her with their mutilation? Maybe. Then again, maybe the suspicious pre-cancerous tissues would never have developed into full blown cancer. One thing is for certain. The older I get the more and more I am realizing how little I know and just how little everyone else actually knows. Especially the experts.
Medical tyranny, good word. A result of personal ignorance and resultant fear.
Covid is an enhanced engineered corona virus, made to be much worse than a cold. It is a novel virus, so comparisons do not matter. It is a warning to mankind that we should not be messing with Mother Nature.
Yet I totally agree with you what the power structure did with the failed bio-weapon. A totally good example of the evil inherent to government and its minions.
For me, I have had it twice, very sick feeling, lethargy. some joint pain, coughing, malaise, sleepy all the time, low grade fever, all immune system signs.
I have family and friends who have sequelae to either Covid, the jab or both. Autoimmune changes, both lupus related. Both under control now but---. My wife had a life long friend that succumbed to the virus. And only the virus.
OBTW, the Vaxx was a change in the medical community. The first law in the Hippocratic oath is "Do no harm". The Trumpian Warpspeed testing of the Vaxx was a medical denial of this primary tenet, that it is permissable to take a significant percentage of "hits" for political purposes. The Vaxx has:
1. Unlike polio shots and cubes, never been effective at preventing the disease as was promised.
2. Created many "adverse" effects, well documented, and ignored.
3. Shown the ability to modify DNA permanently and potentially provided a source for the continuing onslaught of the S protein against host syndromes.
The main onslaught of the whole Covid experience is the socialistic drive of the Deep State was exacerbated as the Feds took over the country through fear tactics. Now it looks like the changes may be permanent as Trump's desire to decentralizr power are meeting a cacophony of brick walls.
I feel suddenly like it is a replay of Adm. 1. All that is missing is the reversal of the House, by a bunch of fear mongering leftists, and the consequent impeachments that will follow.
"very sick feeling, lethargy. some joint pain, coughing, malaise, sleepy all the time, low grade fever,"
I don't know, JohnAZ, how is this any different from the Flu?
I never caught the flu in a customs area in Puerto Vallarta, or in an airplane coach section going to Athens. This Covid is much more infectious than flu and spreads easily with airborne contamination, unlike the droplet flu. I have had flu once in my life, and it was muscular in nature. Covid, twice, same symptoms, nothing like the flu.
OK. Having never experienced covid, I cannot say anymore. Well, maybe I had the vid but I refused to do the stupid test so I would never know anyway.
Aha, that is because it is not a major killer. It is the same effect as the flu, it is just easier to catch because it is airborne. IOW, you walk into an airplane where someone had Covid and sneezed, coughed, talked, smoked or sang and expressed virus into the air, you get it. Very different than flu.
My experience in Puerto Vallarta was in a large room where serpentine lines snaked into customs gates. The perfect spreading atmosphere for Covid, it just sits and waits for you.
You need to read Daniel Roytas' 'Can you catch a cold?', JAZ. A century or two of scientific experiments have failed to demonstrate the ability to infect a healthy person by a sick person. Contagion and infection in respiratory illnesses are faulty models encouraged for the specific purpose of invading the bodies of the peasants with vaccines.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Can-You-Catch-Cold-Experiments/dp/1763504409/ref=sr_1_1
The Common Cold Unit in the UK was set up in 1947. It closed its doors in 1989, having failed to demonstrate transmissibility of colds or flu between people.
Before that, the Rosenau experiments singularly failed to demonstrate transmission of the 1918 flu between people. We have been fed lies for a reason. Just like they make films like Contagion and Outbreak for a reason.
https://www.ggarchives.com/Influenza/TheRosenauExperiment-1918-1919.html
https://controlstudies.substack.com/p/the-spanish-flu-hoax
There is no Sars-CoV-2 virus, either from a bat/pangolin love tryst or cooked up in a lab in Wuhan. The lab-leak story is Tier-2 propaganda to keep people arguing about two theories, neither of which is true. People appear to have been made sick, but not by a virus.
https://anthonycolpo.substack.com/p/viruses-dont-exist-deal-with-it-part