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Disinfected's avatar

Likewise. There's too many actors on both sides of the aisle tainted by the corruption for any of that to happen. That's the secret to keeping loose lips zipped in DC. Assuming any cases are ever actually brought, we'll suddenly see a lot of mysterious deaths, disappearances, and cases of amnesia.

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wkenn's avatar

" Assuming any cases are ever actually brought, we'll suddenly see a lot of mysterious deaths, disappearances, and cases of amnesia."

This is the result of decades of fear sown in the mostly fetid place known as 'DC' (along with a list of not-so-famous locales)

The trail of bodies of those either 'suicided' or actually 'homicided' without a trace of real investigation are the message sent to and heard by those suddenly experiencing 'amnesia'. This leaves out those who succumbed to various illnesses bearing appearance only of 'natural causes'.

It is a lot to overcome, this fear. It is reinforced by the public executions of a fearless few in the 1960's decade.

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Lugh's avatar

Kennedy's not going to do anything. I think he just wanted the glory of a high position. His new commission on autism? Vaccines aren't even on the table.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

I think you seriously underestimate the man.

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SheilaB's avatar

What Kennedy is likely to do is 'find' that aluminium adjuvants in vaccines cause autism etc., then say here are some doubleplusgood mRNA 'vaccines' that don't need adjuvants. Problem solved. They're planning hundreds of mRNA 'vaccines'. Kennedy's in on it. Just look at his eyes. He has the eyes of a man who's sold his soul and just wants it all to stop.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

You are wrong, you havenтАЩt been following what he & his organization is all about. This is part and parcel of the crusade that he began with cleaning up the Hudson River Valley. He has all the money he will ever need & is IMHO incorruptible; ditto for his boss.

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SheilaB's avatar

People aren't just controlled by money. You *think* I'm wrong. That's fine as long as you say it's what you *think*. You don't know. You sound like a groupie. And you lack humility. You have no idea what I've been following.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

tell us then what you 'know'.

What do you think RFK is controlled by? Or do you 'know' that he is controlled by it/them?

Come on, you can't go dissing other people without opening yourself up to criticism: People in glass houses and all that, or she without sin cast the first stone, or is the Bible foreign subject matter to you?

You realize that he is a life long liberal Democrat, who has paid a dear price in terms of his family relationships and long tie political supporters to take this job?

and what don't you think your are controlled by, but really are controlled by?

You want to be taken seriously, then answer my questions, or I will just write you off as and ignorant think you know it all female dog.

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SheilaB's avatar

I have avoided saying I 'know'. I specifically said I 'think'. Just as you 'think'.

Anyone is allowed to look at the evidence of a public figure's behaviour and draw conclusions. Years and years of 'vaccines bad' and now 'look over here at the ingredients in Froot Loops'. Must be what's making America sick. But he's just playing 5-D chess, waiting for the right moment, whatever ...

I also know how the system works. If 'they' didn't want him where he is, he wouldn't be there.

What is is that makes you say things like 'is the Bible foreign subject matter to you?' and then call me a female dog? I think you need to have a word with yourself.

Conversation over, as far as I'm concerned. I don't converse with people who talk like that. Especially when they pretend to be Christians.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

I was in the midst of a reply which I have lost & not been able to retrieve, but I have found this reply of yours. Lady, you donтАЩt need to say тАШI knowтАЩ that attitude drips from every single keystroke that you type.

Oh, and you just said тАШI know howтАЩтАж , so you too are a liar.

You donтАЩt really know much about Christians or Christianity, do you? We are not perfect, we are fallen sinners, saved by Grace who realize that we will be sinning til the day we die, & it was wrong of me to imply you are/were a bitch, even though you have been less than gentile in our back and forth, I have not shown you Grace. Forgive me, if you can find it in your heart to do so.

Who do you think is the тАШtheyтАЩ that is controlling things? That you are so certain of (that you know), eh?

What I know , no matter how good or poor a Christian I am or appear to be. that God is who is in control, that He is Good, that He desires the very best for & out of His Children (who are a subset of all people who are & have ever lived) & in the process we go through painful experiences & we will all die .

Back to my lost post: I have had nearly 50 years of practice to eat crow ЁЯРжтАНтмЫ about clinical decisions I have made, some of which I know have cost patients their lives, I was not initially right on the clot shots, but came around & that eventually cost me my job & career. I also realize that I likely have ordered vaccines that have caused some kids to develop autism. I have to live with that.

All I can do is do the best I can and pray GodтАЩs will be done &!hope that the paths I take help rather than hinder that end.

I donтАЩt think that RFK Is any fan of the mRNA shots , but that approving the fast tracking of the study of them was a necessary procedural step to get to the point where they can come up for final review and then get denied under a skeptical & not bought off administration. I posted as much elsewhere (I think on Meryl NessтАЩs Stack, & she responded to the effect that she was in agreement with my assessment, so, I may be wrong about that, but I am in some pretty good company in being wrong, if that is the case.

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SheilaB's avatar

"Who do you think is the тАШtheyтАЩ that is controlling things? That you are so certain of (that you know), eh?"

Rex Mundi is controlling things, through his minions, with God's permission, until Christ comes back. That's why the world is as it is. You are of course forgiven for referring to me as a bitch, also for the sarcastic 'Lady' and the sarcasm and holier-than-thou attitude generally. Not yet for calling me a liar, though. ALL of this, on your side and mine, is conjecture. Only God and RFK know the truth (and those insiders controlling the game).

Re the 'skeptical and not bought off administration', your president is the self-declared father of the 'vaccine' who is still congratulating himself on the millions of lives he saved. He previously taunted the Biden creature by saying he'd have taken years instead of months to produce the wonder-'vaccine'. Trump also knows how many people have been killed by the injections and the countermeasures generally (ventilators, Remdesivir, Midazolam & morphine, isolation, withdrawal of care, starvation, deprivation of fluids, refusal of antibiotics, lockdowns etc. etc.).

Of course RFK knows exactly how dangerous the mRNA shots are (ALL mRNA shots, not just the 'covid' ones). He could, in his present position, have immediately rescinded the PREP Act declaration in respect of 'covid', which was extended by Biden (or rather his handlers) until the end of 2029. Every day that it continues allows people to be killed by 'countermeasures' with impunity. Obviously the PREP Act needs to be rescinded entirely, but that is not within his remit.

You are welcome to believe in the 'damaged hero'. Neither of us knows what goes on with RFK's soul any more than you know about mine (although your arrogance on that matter is a thing to behold). Either you are right about him or there has to be some kind of expiry date on your belief in whatever you think he's going to do, so the question will resolve itself in time.

The perpetrators of the 'covid' fraud are itching to do it all over again. Tedros has declared MPox a pandemic (that no-one will oblige him by taking seriously) even though Monkeypox is literally listed on the WHO's own website as a 'side effect' of the 'covid vaccine'. They will do it with the non-existent bird flu virus, then we'll all see where RFK stands.

We certainly know where he stands on the Israeli genocide because he has said the Palestinians are 'pampered' even as their children are murdered and ground into the dust, so I think that's pretty clear and suggests at least one lobby he's controlled by.

BTW, both RFK and Meryl Nass are perpetuating the misinformation that there was a SARS-CoV-2 virus in the first place (so is the 'lab-leak theory', now embraced by the White House, I believe, that was set up from the start as an -alternative narrative - 'conspiracy theory' - to herd the rubes into their pens to argue about nonsense when neither the bat/pangolin narrative nor that one was true). Christine Massey's Substack lists all the FOIAs sent to hundreds of institutions around the world, resulting in not one single institution being able to confirm the isolation of the SARS-CoV-2 virus from a person anywhere in the world ever. Same with 'bird flu'.

'Put not thy trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help."

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

You lost me @ Rex Mundi, = king of the world in Latin, but who is that? Lucifer?

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

You donтАЩt know him. Your eyesight is not good, regular or spiritual.

HeтАЩs a successfully recovering substance abuser (It doesnтАЩt matter what substance, same spiritual process), using his genuine faith in the One God of all Creation to stay clean & sober

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SheilaB's avatar

Right. I don't know him but you somehow know me and know that my eyesight is not good, regular or spiritual. Amazing.

I know perfectly well that he's a recovering substance abuser. Perhaps he's a recovering serial adulterer too. You don't know him either, so you don't know anything about the genuineness or otherwise of his faith. By their fruits shall ye know them.

I *think* he's owned, just as Trump is owned. They've both been groomed for a long time.

He speaks with forked tongue. He's spent years telling everyone about the harms of vaccines and now he says there's nothing like MMR to deal with the measles dramas. (I had measles as a kid, so did everyone I knew. Week off school. No big deal.) He built up CHD as a limited hangout and now he disowns it.

He said the covid 'vaccine' was the most dangerous vaccine in the history of vaccines. He said Pfizer and Moderna didn't really manufacture them - they were produced by the Pentagon (true) and Pfizer and Moderna just slapped a label on them. He then said Trump's warp speed op was an extraordinary achievement.

My eyesight's fine. And my hearing. I just don't suffer from hero worship.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Are you just congenitally cynical, ЁЯди or do you hold that attitude only for members of the Trump administration.

My perspective is that we are all fallen and prone to be self serving @ best, that a person in successful recovery has @ least one & likely more trusted accountability partners & one individual in particular who holds them accountable (a Nathan to King David). HeтАЩs a better bet than ANYONE in the last regime, & most of us, as well.

I donтАЩt think that he has changed his mind about the long game. No one knows for sure about the best strategy for dealing with the small # of breakthrough cases of measles, none of which have resulted in fatalities due to the measles infection, BTW, when the actual cases are investigated appropriately. This has been going on for decades, there are always breakthrough cases either due to vaccine failure to take, or reversion of the vaccine strain to virulence & the only reason it is making the news, IMHO, but well informed & un inflicted opinion is that Big Pharma wants to undermine him and get him & Trump out of office or neutered so that they can manipulate their bought & paid for politicians and bureaucrats to continue making money off their at best oversold products.

I have practiced since 1979, only recently have I become aware of the shaky foundation that vaccine science, if you can call it that, stands on, had measles myself and I canтАЩt even remember it (& not because I had measles encephalitis & was delerious). I used to be an enthusiasticтАШvaxxerтАЩ but not doctrinaireтАФ wouldnтАЩt throw people out of my practice for not getting vaccinated: i.e., I gave medical advice not orders.

Before COVID, a good argument could be made that measles vaccine was one of the most dangerous vaccines in widespread use, but an argument can be made that targeted use of the vaccine is an option in the outbreak (or that if there is an alternative, that there is no way the media will explain the rationale and evidence accurately, & will quickly cut to that fool, Peter Hotez who is so bought off & more to the point, so in denial that his medical career is built on the very thing that caused his daughterтАЩ autism. There is a Biblical story from Judges of the Judge who foolishly swore that if God gave him success against the Philistines, he would sacrifice the first thing that came out of his house when he returned (likely thinking it would be a lamb or his dog, but it was his only daughter (& Hotez & we have the hubris to think we are beyond that foolishness ЁЯЩД).

Do you have some particular expertise or axe to grind on this topic?

Point being that RFK knew that he was being set up by a corrupted bought press that was in the service of Pharma, & chose to fight that night another day & another venue.

Have a nice day

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SheilaB's avatar

"Are you just congenitally cynical, ЁЯди or do you hold that attitude only for members of the Trump administration."

You seem to have a habit of presuming things. I have no time for either the Trump administration or the previous lot. They're all owned by the same people. You may call that cynical - I call it realistic.

"Do you have some particular expertise or axe to grind on this topic?"

Ah, the supercilious approach! The topic is RFK Jr. I don't think either of us is an expert in RFK Jr. I think we'd have to leave that to the Almighty.

My husband is a doctor. As a non-doctor, I've finally got him to realise what vaccination actually is, because of the research I've done that he's never done. He was hospitalised by the covid jab, but still wouldn't listen to me for years, so you'll have to excuse my cynicism about people with 'expertise'. I have friends and former colleagues who were killed by the covid 'vaccine' - heart attacks and turbocancers - so I don't defer to people *just* because they allegedly have 'expertise'. It was doctors who implemented the covid operation on behalf of the perpetrators (just like in Nazi Germany). Many of them are just not very bright. Others are venal.

"Point being that RFK knew that he was being set up by a corrupted bought press that was in the service of Pharma, & chose to fight that night another day & another venue."

The people behind this operation (both covid and vaccination in general) are way above 'pharma'. Pharma is a tool of the US military. The US military is a tool of the Owners of the world.

Have a nice day yourself.

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