The further we get away from the Covid scam and the more I am able to reflect upon it, the clearer it becomes to me that the entire thing was exploited as a means of getting rid of the president. First, to discredit him, then to abuse and contort election laws to facilitate the necessary election fraud.
The further we get away from the Covid scam and the more I am able to reflect upon it, the clearer it becomes to me that the entire thing was exploited as a means of getting rid of the president. First, to discredit him, then to abuse and contort election laws to facilitate the necessary election fraud.
Covid the disease itself was real: as real as any other virus artificially created in a laboratory. But the reaction and the abuse thereof was incredibly contorted for political purposes.
I knew covid was a scam the moment they shut down all the gyms, restaurants, churches and all other "non-essential businesses" but kept the Wal-marts, Targets, Amazons and Home Depots open. I mean, the virus spreads and kills people in churches and in schools but in Wal-mart and Home Depot the virus behaves itself and spares the shoppers.
From then on I didn't participate in the madness. No mask. No covid testing. No vaccines. No self isolation. For me it was a big "fuck you" to the madness.
So many were deceived. Even the elect and the wisest among us.
I don't even know if I buy that the covid disease was real. I believe it was nothing more than just a nasty strain of the flu virus, re-dubbed to the sinister "covid" name.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:1-3
I am a proud New Zealander. Got my Initial Mathematics and Science degrees at her Majesty Queen Victoria's University of Wellington.
Married a Californian girl in NZ and immigrated to Seattle in 1974. Obtained my Enginering degree at the University of Washington in Seattle. Worked my entire career as an Engineer for a Heavy Offshore Contractor from Alaska to Mexico. On US Navy and Federal facilities for the US Nuclear Navy. Now retired to NZ for the "free" Universal Healthcare.
Yes, I get angry ~ at clueless whack jobs who don't have a clue what they are talking about.
My mother in law got every covid shot and booster. She got thyroid cancer and now has full blown lymphoma.
My brother in law had non-hodgkins lymphoma before covid and has received every covid shot and booster since. He gets cancer screened every year and is still cancer free and running marathons.
My point? Who knows how it will affect any individual. The fact that they were trying to force us to take it was what made me run away as fast as I could. Nobody forces me to anything I don't want to do (except pay taxes, still trying to figure out how to resist that one without going to jail or losing the home I have bought and paid for and supposedly own in free America).
"I know of no one who died of so-called covid" It is something (death by covid) I think would be difficult to prove. However, propagandizing 'death by covid' and upping the fear factor leads quite a few to believe someone actually died from it.
Carrying it a step further, if we can agree it was really some sort of 'bad case of the flu' we can find people who died from covid, whatever it actually was.
Whatever it was, it has never been repeatedly identified in human tissue, which would be a basic exercise of scientific method (not the smoke and mirrors science). If it were, tissue samples could be brought to any reasonable laboratory for the 'virus' to be isolated within the tissue (as opposed to isolated in a computer model).
That's my point. If it were real, easy enough to prove. But no.
Get this: A friend of mine just drove all the way to Salt Lake City Utah, 7 hours away, for a hip replacement surgery. And when he got there, they told him he was "covid positive" and refused to do the surgery! So he lost all that money for travel, etc. and has to reschedule.
God only knows what he has, if anything.
Covid is a coronavirus, which causes a cold. In the early days of the covid hoax, many epidemiologists spoke out about how long it takes a pathogen to move through a community. It was 70 days.
So why, 5 years later, are people still "getting" covid? Or are they? I have my doubts. The testing and the diagnosing have always been suspect at best.
And were people's perception of being the most sick they've ever been just because they were told they had been handed what CNN screeched was practically a death sentence? And don't we always feel as if the current bout of flu we have is the "worst ever"? And wouldn't your flu be worse at 60 than at say, 40? Due to age?
All valid, keep in mind I never bought into it. The ostracization and subsequent loss of income was difficult. If there were do-overs in life I would still do the same.
Covid positive is the result of too many cycles of PCR which was 'never intended to diagnose anything' (Kary Mullis). The people who refuse to be confused by facts are a weight around the neck of society.
Unfortunate about your friend spending the time and money only to be turned away. Medical tyranny raises it's head when totalitarianism is rising.
Great points, wkenn (esp. re: totalitarianism). These are reasons why I consult a naturopath and why I've accepted that if I get any sort of illness I'll try to treat it guided by her, but if not, I'll accept my fate, because I never want any of the psychos in the "healthcare" (deathcare) industry anywhere near my body.
So far it's been great (knock wood).
Yes, medical tyranny is one of the massive holds they have on us.
And.....keep in mind many in the deathcare business are much more interested in making sure they follow the protocols of the genius' that taught them rather than trying to make sure their patient gets well. If you have gone to any of the recent grads of medical school, they would rather do anything---or nothing than give you and Rx for an antibiotic because all of their teachers told them giving and Rx for an antibiotic is not good unless you can be 1000% sure that the patient really needs it------rather than seeing a very sick patient and thinking there is a good chance this person needs an antibiotic but I am not 1000% sure so we will tell them to go home and see if they get better and if you survive that but do not get any better, come back in 10 days and we will see you again. Not even taking into consideration that in 10 days you may be dead from the infection and if you really needed an antibiotic you may be much sicker in 10 days and may need a much stronger antibiotic.
I heard that 2 of the people (kids I believe) who recently died from measles in Texas really died because at the same time they had measles they also developed puemonia (spelling) and the doctor thought it was viral rather than bacterial so he did not Rx an antibiotic. The poor kids died of the bacterial infection that could have been cured if he would have just given them the Rx to make sure they would be ok. He should lose his license.
"Deathcare." That is a suitable description of America's health care system.
I mentioned my mother-in-law in a comment ahead on this thread. She was "diagnosed" with thyroid cancer. The treatment was to isolate her in a room for 24 hours and inject highly radioactive iodine into her body to eradicate the thyroid cancer. Sound fun?
Sure, it killed the thyroid cancer but she now has full blown lymphoma. She's 76 and about to embark on a full treatment course of chemotherapy. You know, the cancer treatment where they inject poisons into your body and hope it kills off the cancer cells before it kills the patient off? One would think that after decades of cancer research and the billions spent thereon that they would have come up with a better, less toxic way to treat cancer than this?
Cancer treatment today involves burning the hell out of the patient with radiation, mutilating the patient by cutting off various body parts, or poisoning the hell out of the patient. With all the supposedly brilliant minds involved in oncology one would think someone would have come up with something better.
Covid is an enhanced engineered corona virus, made to be much worse than a cold. It is a novel virus, so comparisons do not matter. It is a warning to mankind that we should not be messing with Mother Nature.
Yet I totally agree with you what the power structure did with the failed bio-weapon. A totally good example of the evil inherent to government and its minions.
For me, I have had it twice, very sick feeling, lethargy. some joint pain, coughing, malaise, sleepy all the time, low grade fever, all immune system signs.
I have family and friends who have sequelae to either Covid, the jab or both. Autoimmune changes, both lupus related. Both under control now but---. My wife had a life long friend that succumbed to the virus. And only the virus.
OBTW, the Vaxx was a change in the medical community. The first law in the Hippocratic oath is "Do no harm". The Trumpian Warpspeed testing of the Vaxx was a medical denial of this primary tenet, that it is permissable to take a significant percentage of "hits" for political purposes. The Vaxx has:
1. Unlike polio shots and cubes, never been effective at preventing the disease as was promised.
2. Created many "adverse" effects, well documented, and ignored.
3. Shown the ability to modify DNA permanently and potentially provided a source for the continuing onslaught of the S protein against host syndromes.
The main onslaught of the whole Covid experience is the socialistic drive of the Deep State was exacerbated as the Feds took over the country through fear tactics. Now it looks like the changes may be permanent as Trump's desire to decentralizr power are meeting a cacophony of brick walls.
I feel suddenly like it is a replay of Adm. 1. All that is missing is the reversal of the House, by a bunch of fear mongering leftists, and the consequent impeachments that will follow.
I never caught the flu in a customs area in Puerto Vallarta, or in an airplane coach section going to Athens. This Covid is much more infectious than flu and spreads easily with airborne contamination, unlike the droplet flu. I have had flu once in my life, and it was muscular in nature. Covid, twice, same symptoms, nothing like the flu.
Aha, that is because it is not a major killer. It is the same effect as the flu, it is just easier to catch because it is airborne. IOW, you walk into an airplane where someone had Covid and sneezed, coughed, talked, smoked or sang and expressed virus into the air, you get it. Very different than flu.
My experience in Puerto Vallarta was in a large room where serpentine lines snaked into customs gates. The perfect spreading atmosphere for Covid, it just sits and waits for you.
You need to read Daniel Roytas' 'Can you catch a cold?', JAZ. A century or two of scientific experiments have failed to demonstrate the ability to infect a healthy person by a sick person. Contagion and infection in respiratory illnesses are faulty models encouraged for the specific purpose of invading the bodies of the peasants with vaccines.
The Common Cold Unit in the UK was set up in 1947. It closed its doors in 1989, having failed to demonstrate transmissibility of colds or flu between people.
Before that, the Rosenau experiments singularly failed to demonstrate transmission of the 1918 flu between people. We have been fed lies for a reason. Just like they make films like Contagion and Outbreak for a reason.
There is no Sars-CoV-2 virus, either from a bat/pangolin love tryst or cooked up in a lab in Wuhan. The lab-leak story is Tier-2 propaganda to keep people arguing about two theories, neither of which is true. People appear to have been made sick, but not by a virus.
At one point, I kind of felt the same way as you do. but then I spent a week in the hospital during the summer of 2021, as ill as I have ever been in my life. I literally could not breathe at times. It was a scary feeling.
And I know three people personally who died from it.
It was a real disease and a real pandemic.
But the (over)reaction was cynical and contrived and unnecessary.
Well, we will never know what made you and others that sick.
Sounds like poisoning to me. Are you aware that the CIA sprayed pathogens along the SF coast in 1957, just to test it out? One guy died (that we know of), and many were ill.
And now they spray the skies DAILY. We don't know with what. We aren't allowed to know. It's a secret.
Pompeo stood at the WH podium and said that covid was a "live exercise" and no one paid attention. Or a few of us did.
Occam's Razor. The simplest answer is the correct one.
All these ideas of what may have caused the illness all over the world. People got sick in areas without airplanes flying over their heads, without bio-research going on, without all the other suggested causes. The simplest answer is that it was an escaped viral agent that was and is extremely communicable but not nearly deadly enough for the developers wants and needs.
I choose to believe it is illicit viral development led by Fauci and others, to develop more weapons of mass destruction. The Vaxx was developed in concert with the virus, that is why it just suddenly popped up, ready for Warpspeed testing. Why? To protect the peoples that are developing the virus. The adverse effects are caused by things that surprised the developers, things caused by introduction of the S protein into the circulatory system allowing exposure of all parts of the body to the DNA modifying aspects of the mRNA carrier. We do not even know what the effect of ongoing inflammation caused by continued stimulus of the immune system by the S protein.
Bottom line, our government, complicit with the AMA, allowed the introduction of a substance into the bodies of millions of people that was essentially an experiment of an untested mRNA technology. That technology had already had many problems with much of the "leakage" issues that have shown up since the Vaxx. With the government and the AMA solidly defending their positions, there is no way to prosecute the guilty parties. Heck, research has not even been done to find out what the real effects of both Covid and its Vaxx have been. We still, for example, have no idea of why 99% of the population have a non-event to heavy cold or flu reaction to the virus and the 1% die a suffocating death in reaction. We do not understand why the Vaxx makes adverse effects. Thanks to government interference, we have missed an opportunity to figure out how to combat viruses. Maybe that is by design of the folks that wanted Covid to kill us all in the first place.
Only the death rate - and always for people who already had one foot in the grave - was .027%. Not a pandemic. And the CDC wiped out the actual flu deaths that year. So the same # of people died from whatever coronavirus etc they do every year. And meanwhile, yes, they poison the skies everywhere. It's not just in metropolitan areas. Where did you get the idea they don't in some places? I'd have to see proof of that.
In any case why would the powers that be suddenly admit to gain of function and all that stuff? I don't think so.
And how did a bunch of people in remote nursing homes end up with "covid" when no one from China had ventured anywhere near there?
Why did nurses attest to people who weren't sick with anything called "covid positive," drugged, hooked up on unattended ventilators and killed? For $39K profit to the hospital per death?
Why do I not know one person who died of "covid" but I know plenty who are dying post jab? And one with Bell's Palsy?
Why did epidemiologists have to remind us that coronaviruses pass through a population in 70 days, yet 5 years later we are still discussing that people get "covid"? With tests that don't measure it?
Cankerpuss, it did not disappear. When hospitals, where the stats are collected, get paid $40000 for each Covid patient, why would they ever diagnose Flu instead of Covid?
There are people out there who argue that viruses do not exist, that the covid virus was never isolated or identified and that the sicknesses we as people are experiencing is because of the foods we are eating and the chemicals and preservatives they put into the foods. That sickness is the means of the body attempting to de-toxify itself.
I am just a stupid schmuck from rural Utah so I don't know one way or the other. Just things I read from time to time.
Yes, many of us understandably do not trust any official story - especially one that can't be proven.
But I will not say I KNOW what happened, other than that covid19 was hyped and marketed until we all believed it, and that it did usher in cover for the greatest money laundering scheme in history.
Baloney, Mary, people were listening, me included. My skepticism and cynicism about the government role in Covid was due to listening to you and Night Owl for example. The obvious nature of the poisonous nature of “our” government is a driver.
Covid is real, it is the product of government research and is preserved like the flu now, mutating constantly and passing from host to host is small populations. Society has developed “mass” immunity to the Covid virus, but mutations cause outbreaks, just like the flu.
One of my questions, is why didn’t we make a Covid shot, like the flu shot, with dead viruses? I have an opinion, it is because the mRNA folks got there first. Five years later, we are still paying the price for that decision.
Well thank you JAZ, and I have likewise learned from you. But I don't see absolute proof of what you are claiming, so to me, that means it's all still open to conjecture. One thing that proved that whatever it was, was planned (be it a mass poisoning or virus or whatever), because in March 2020 I saw the WEF's site, because I went poking around, and saw their entire covid19 branding, promotional material, press releases, basically a massive campaign, was already built and disseminated. This had to take months or even years, which people in communications like me would understand. I worked with the marketing dept at a community college at the time in CA and they were given all the marketing materials and a couple of million dollars to spread and instill the propaganda.
That is not what happens in a normal "pandemic." And again, the numbers weren't up to pandemic standards. A pandemic requires a death rate of 4%+.
This was less than a percent - if that.
The hype sure sold it though. And terrorized people into believing it was a big deal.
The Lab Leak; the True Origins of Covid 19 is an admission of fault by Trump. Surely he knows (or can assume) that anyone obstructing his agendas is the enemy, and if they win, it will be a death sentence for him.
Borge Brende formerly advocated for China, the US, and India, the “Group of Three” as he has deemed them, to step up and take on WEF initiatives in hopes that the rest of the world would follow.
That would be the US under "Joe Biden's" control, and China was a lead player in Covid.
So now, Trump needs to determine which leaders and/or country populations are on his side, and to solidify authority within the US.
Would you agree that Trump recognizes that this is war, and he is just positioning his administration for battle?
Is it your opinion that the WEF and the Zionists were/are at odds?
Is this a power play for world domination?
Where do the Zionists stand on this:
"Last night’s Solovyov program gave the subject ample time, with the host suggesting that Russia is ready to send military vessels to accompany its commercial ships through the Baltic waters and is ready not only to sink whatever navy Estonia thinks it has and to level the country to the ground."
Russian Vessels on the Line: Moscow Threatens Consequences for Baltic Provocations! | TN World
Well, yes that's the question. Apparently, Israel was all in on the Vax, actually used as a global test population. But on other issues, they are very much at odds with the UN crowd. So I'd say they are fine with WEF, which has Rothschild connections, but less so with other factions: the UN, China, Russia, etc.
"The Lab Leak; the True Origins of Covid 19 is an admission of fault by Trump."
It's actually just a ruse, exactly like the bat/pangolin story, to keep people talking about TWO narratives, neither of which is true. There is no Sars-CoV-2 virus. The lab leak story was put out there from the very start as a 'conspiracy theory' to herd the rubes into their respective pens to argue about nonsense, while the agenda rumbles on and on, now speeding up quite noticeably, with digital ID being pushed everywhere.
Raskin to Bukele: ‘Trump administration is not going to last forever’
by Lauren Irwin - 04/21/25 3:42 PM ET
“Look, President Bukele — who’s declared himself a dictator — and the other tyrants, dictators, autocrats of the world have to understand that the Trump administration is not going to last forever,” Raskin said.
“We’re going to restore strong democracy to America, and we will remember who stood up for democracy in America and who tried to drive us down towards dictatorship and autocracy.”
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Raskin and his cohorts are masters at promoting a nonobjective assessment, and accusing their opponents of that which they are guilty.
This is a battle for world domination, with the dominant players being those who have embraced the WEF/2030 Agenda, and Trump and his agenda (and I would venture a guess, along with a majority of the world population).
I think it is critical that Trump gets Japan and India onboard.
The further we get away from the Covid scam and the more I am able to reflect upon it, the clearer it becomes to me that the entire thing was exploited as a means of getting rid of the president. First, to discredit him, then to abuse and contort election laws to facilitate the necessary election fraud.
Covid the disease itself was real: as real as any other virus artificially created in a laboratory. But the reaction and the abuse thereof was incredibly contorted for political purposes.
I knew covid was a scam the moment they shut down all the gyms, restaurants, churches and all other "non-essential businesses" but kept the Wal-marts, Targets, Amazons and Home Depots open. I mean, the virus spreads and kills people in churches and in schools but in Wal-mart and Home Depot the virus behaves itself and spares the shoppers.
From then on I didn't participate in the madness. No mask. No covid testing. No vaccines. No self isolation. For me it was a big "fuck you" to the madness.
So many were deceived. Even the elect and the wisest among us.
I don't even know if I buy that the covid disease was real. I believe it was nothing more than just a nasty strain of the flu virus, re-dubbed to the sinister "covid" name.
In WA state Cankerpuss, they kept The Bremerton Naval base open.
National Security you know! Essential business to keep the Nation safe!
It's a fucking base whose only job is to scrap obsolete naval vessels.
The final stop for retards who can't get a job in the private sector.
So, we should scrap nuclear cores in the ocean like the Soviet Union did for years?
Not sure where you are from, but you seem especially clueless and angry.
"Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:1-3
I am a proud New Zealander. Got my Initial Mathematics and Science degrees at her Majesty Queen Victoria's University of Wellington.
Married a Californian girl in NZ and immigrated to Seattle in 1974. Obtained my Enginering degree at the University of Washington in Seattle. Worked my entire career as an Engineer for a Heavy Offshore Contractor from Alaska to Mexico. On US Navy and Federal facilities for the US Nuclear Navy. Now retired to NZ for the "free" Universal Healthcare.
Yes, I get angry ~ at clueless whack jobs who don't have a clue what they are talking about.
Bremerton is setup to deactivate old nuke cores, so it has a use.
Again, should we just scrap them in the ocean like the Soviets did?
In fact what should we be doing with our old nuclear material it seems to be just piling up all over and no one has an actual plan.
San Onofre is a nightmare waiting to happen.
at clueless whack jobs who don't have a clue what they are talking about.-Dennis
If you tilt at every one of those windmills you will never stop tilting.
Covid was so "real" I don't know anyone who died of it.
I think they just unleashed some pathogen on major cities and used fearmongering for the rest of it. Easier than going through all that lab trouble.
I know plenty of people who appear to be dying or are negatively affected from the effects of the covid shot.
Mostly cancers.
My mother in law got every covid shot and booster. She got thyroid cancer and now has full blown lymphoma.
My brother in law had non-hodgkins lymphoma before covid and has received every covid shot and booster since. He gets cancer screened every year and is still cancer free and running marathons.
My point? Who knows how it will affect any individual. The fact that they were trying to force us to take it was what made me run away as fast as I could. Nobody forces me to anything I don't want to do (except pay taxes, still trying to figure out how to resist that one without going to jail or losing the home I have bought and paid for and supposedly own in free America).
Yep. If one were cynical, one might come to the conclusion that covid was a hoax set up just to push people (scare them) into getting the vaccine.
I also know people dying or damaged by the jab. I know of no one who died of so-called covid.
"I know of no one who died of so-called covid" It is something (death by covid) I think would be difficult to prove. However, propagandizing 'death by covid' and upping the fear factor leads quite a few to believe someone actually died from it.
Carrying it a step further, if we can agree it was really some sort of 'bad case of the flu' we can find people who died from covid, whatever it actually was.
Whatever it was, it has never been repeatedly identified in human tissue, which would be a basic exercise of scientific method (not the smoke and mirrors science). If it were, tissue samples could be brought to any reasonable laboratory for the 'virus' to be isolated within the tissue (as opposed to isolated in a computer model).
And yet, it wasn't.
That's my point. If it were real, easy enough to prove. But no.
Get this: A friend of mine just drove all the way to Salt Lake City Utah, 7 hours away, for a hip replacement surgery. And when he got there, they told him he was "covid positive" and refused to do the surgery! So he lost all that money for travel, etc. and has to reschedule.
God only knows what he has, if anything.
Covid is a coronavirus, which causes a cold. In the early days of the covid hoax, many epidemiologists spoke out about how long it takes a pathogen to move through a community. It was 70 days.
So why, 5 years later, are people still "getting" covid? Or are they? I have my doubts. The testing and the diagnosing have always been suspect at best.
And were people's perception of being the most sick they've ever been just because they were told they had been handed what CNN screeched was practically a death sentence? And don't we always feel as if the current bout of flu we have is the "worst ever"? And wouldn't your flu be worse at 60 than at say, 40? Due to age?
All valid, keep in mind I never bought into it. The ostracization and subsequent loss of income was difficult. If there were do-overs in life I would still do the same.
Covid positive is the result of too many cycles of PCR which was 'never intended to diagnose anything' (Kary Mullis). The people who refuse to be confused by facts are a weight around the neck of society.
Unfortunate about your friend spending the time and money only to be turned away. Medical tyranny raises it's head when totalitarianism is rising.
Great points, wkenn (esp. re: totalitarianism). These are reasons why I consult a naturopath and why I've accepted that if I get any sort of illness I'll try to treat it guided by her, but if not, I'll accept my fate, because I never want any of the psychos in the "healthcare" (deathcare) industry anywhere near my body.
So far it's been great (knock wood).
Yes, medical tyranny is one of the massive holds they have on us.
And.....keep in mind many in the deathcare business are much more interested in making sure they follow the protocols of the genius' that taught them rather than trying to make sure their patient gets well. If you have gone to any of the recent grads of medical school, they would rather do anything---or nothing than give you and Rx for an antibiotic because all of their teachers told them giving and Rx for an antibiotic is not good unless you can be 1000% sure that the patient really needs it------rather than seeing a very sick patient and thinking there is a good chance this person needs an antibiotic but I am not 1000% sure so we will tell them to go home and see if they get better and if you survive that but do not get any better, come back in 10 days and we will see you again. Not even taking into consideration that in 10 days you may be dead from the infection and if you really needed an antibiotic you may be much sicker in 10 days and may need a much stronger antibiotic.
I heard that 2 of the people (kids I believe) who recently died from measles in Texas really died because at the same time they had measles they also developed puemonia (spelling) and the doctor thought it was viral rather than bacterial so he did not Rx an antibiotic. The poor kids died of the bacterial infection that could have been cured if he would have just given them the Rx to make sure they would be ok. He should lose his license.
"Deathcare." That is a suitable description of America's health care system.
I mentioned my mother-in-law in a comment ahead on this thread. She was "diagnosed" with thyroid cancer. The treatment was to isolate her in a room for 24 hours and inject highly radioactive iodine into her body to eradicate the thyroid cancer. Sound fun?
Sure, it killed the thyroid cancer but she now has full blown lymphoma. She's 76 and about to embark on a full treatment course of chemotherapy. You know, the cancer treatment where they inject poisons into your body and hope it kills off the cancer cells before it kills the patient off? One would think that after decades of cancer research and the billions spent thereon that they would have come up with a better, less toxic way to treat cancer than this?
Cancer treatment today involves burning the hell out of the patient with radiation, mutilating the patient by cutting off various body parts, or poisoning the hell out of the patient. With all the supposedly brilliant minds involved in oncology one would think someone would have come up with something better.
Spot on - all of what you said! It's crazy and billions have been spent, over the course of decades, and they still use the same methods! Nuts.
Medical tyranny, good word. A result of personal ignorance and resultant fear.
Covid is an enhanced engineered corona virus, made to be much worse than a cold. It is a novel virus, so comparisons do not matter. It is a warning to mankind that we should not be messing with Mother Nature.
Yet I totally agree with you what the power structure did with the failed bio-weapon. A totally good example of the evil inherent to government and its minions.
For me, I have had it twice, very sick feeling, lethargy. some joint pain, coughing, malaise, sleepy all the time, low grade fever, all immune system signs.
I have family and friends who have sequelae to either Covid, the jab or both. Autoimmune changes, both lupus related. Both under control now but---. My wife had a life long friend that succumbed to the virus. And only the virus.
OBTW, the Vaxx was a change in the medical community. The first law in the Hippocratic oath is "Do no harm". The Trumpian Warpspeed testing of the Vaxx was a medical denial of this primary tenet, that it is permissable to take a significant percentage of "hits" for political purposes. The Vaxx has:
1. Unlike polio shots and cubes, never been effective at preventing the disease as was promised.
2. Created many "adverse" effects, well documented, and ignored.
3. Shown the ability to modify DNA permanently and potentially provided a source for the continuing onslaught of the S protein against host syndromes.
The main onslaught of the whole Covid experience is the socialistic drive of the Deep State was exacerbated as the Feds took over the country through fear tactics. Now it looks like the changes may be permanent as Trump's desire to decentralizr power are meeting a cacophony of brick walls.
I feel suddenly like it is a replay of Adm. 1. All that is missing is the reversal of the House, by a bunch of fear mongering leftists, and the consequent impeachments that will follow.
"very sick feeling, lethargy. some joint pain, coughing, malaise, sleepy all the time, low grade fever,"
I don't know, JohnAZ, how is this any different from the Flu?
I never caught the flu in a customs area in Puerto Vallarta, or in an airplane coach section going to Athens. This Covid is much more infectious than flu and spreads easily with airborne contamination, unlike the droplet flu. I have had flu once in my life, and it was muscular in nature. Covid, twice, same symptoms, nothing like the flu.
OK. Having never experienced covid, I cannot say anymore. Well, maybe I had the vid but I refused to do the stupid test so I would never know anyway.
Aha, that is because it is not a major killer. It is the same effect as the flu, it is just easier to catch because it is airborne. IOW, you walk into an airplane where someone had Covid and sneezed, coughed, talked, smoked or sang and expressed virus into the air, you get it. Very different than flu.
My experience in Puerto Vallarta was in a large room where serpentine lines snaked into customs gates. The perfect spreading atmosphere for Covid, it just sits and waits for you.
You need to read Daniel Roytas' 'Can you catch a cold?', JAZ. A century or two of scientific experiments have failed to demonstrate the ability to infect a healthy person by a sick person. Contagion and infection in respiratory illnesses are faulty models encouraged for the specific purpose of invading the bodies of the peasants with vaccines.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Can-You-Catch-Cold-Experiments/dp/1763504409/ref=sr_1_1
The Common Cold Unit in the UK was set up in 1947. It closed its doors in 1989, having failed to demonstrate transmissibility of colds or flu between people.
Before that, the Rosenau experiments singularly failed to demonstrate transmission of the 1918 flu between people. We have been fed lies for a reason. Just like they make films like Contagion and Outbreak for a reason.
https://www.ggarchives.com/Influenza/TheRosenauExperiment-1918-1919.html
https://controlstudies.substack.com/p/the-spanish-flu-hoax
There is no Sars-CoV-2 virus, either from a bat/pangolin love tryst or cooked up in a lab in Wuhan. The lab-leak story is Tier-2 propaganda to keep people arguing about two theories, neither of which is true. People appear to have been made sick, but not by a virus.
https://anthonycolpo.substack.com/p/viruses-dont-exist-deal-with-it-part
At one point, I kind of felt the same way as you do. but then I spent a week in the hospital during the summer of 2021, as ill as I have ever been in my life. I literally could not breathe at times. It was a scary feeling.
And I know three people personally who died from it.
It was a real disease and a real pandemic.
But the (over)reaction was cynical and contrived and unnecessary.
Well, we will never know what made you and others that sick.
Sounds like poisoning to me. Are you aware that the CIA sprayed pathogens along the SF coast in 1957, just to test it out? One guy died (that we know of), and many were ill.
And now they spray the skies DAILY. We don't know with what. We aren't allowed to know. It's a secret.
Pompeo stood at the WH podium and said that covid was a "live exercise" and no one paid attention. Or a few of us did.
Occam's Razor. The simplest answer is the correct one.
All these ideas of what may have caused the illness all over the world. People got sick in areas without airplanes flying over their heads, without bio-research going on, without all the other suggested causes. The simplest answer is that it was an escaped viral agent that was and is extremely communicable but not nearly deadly enough for the developers wants and needs.
I choose to believe it is illicit viral development led by Fauci and others, to develop more weapons of mass destruction. The Vaxx was developed in concert with the virus, that is why it just suddenly popped up, ready for Warpspeed testing. Why? To protect the peoples that are developing the virus. The adverse effects are caused by things that surprised the developers, things caused by introduction of the S protein into the circulatory system allowing exposure of all parts of the body to the DNA modifying aspects of the mRNA carrier. We do not even know what the effect of ongoing inflammation caused by continued stimulus of the immune system by the S protein.
Bottom line, our government, complicit with the AMA, allowed the introduction of a substance into the bodies of millions of people that was essentially an experiment of an untested mRNA technology. That technology had already had many problems with much of the "leakage" issues that have shown up since the Vaxx. With the government and the AMA solidly defending their positions, there is no way to prosecute the guilty parties. Heck, research has not even been done to find out what the real effects of both Covid and its Vaxx have been. We still, for example, have no idea of why 99% of the population have a non-event to heavy cold or flu reaction to the virus and the 1% die a suffocating death in reaction. We do not understand why the Vaxx makes adverse effects. Thanks to government interference, we have missed an opportunity to figure out how to combat viruses. Maybe that is by design of the folks that wanted Covid to kill us all in the first place.
Sure, John.
Only the death rate - and always for people who already had one foot in the grave - was .027%. Not a pandemic. And the CDC wiped out the actual flu deaths that year. So the same # of people died from whatever coronavirus etc they do every year. And meanwhile, yes, they poison the skies everywhere. It's not just in metropolitan areas. Where did you get the idea they don't in some places? I'd have to see proof of that.
In any case why would the powers that be suddenly admit to gain of function and all that stuff? I don't think so.
And how did a bunch of people in remote nursing homes end up with "covid" when no one from China had ventured anywhere near there?
Why did nurses attest to people who weren't sick with anything called "covid positive," drugged, hooked up on unattended ventilators and killed? For $39K profit to the hospital per death?
Why do I not know one person who died of "covid" but I know plenty who are dying post jab? And one with Bell's Palsy?
Why did epidemiologists have to remind us that coronaviruses pass through a population in 70 days, yet 5 years later we are still discussing that people get "covid"? With tests that don't measure it?
And for some odd reason nobody ever questions that fact that the fucking flu all but disappeared during the covid years.
Cankerpuss, it did not disappear. When hospitals, where the stats are collected, get paid $40000 for each Covid patient, why would they ever diagnose Flu instead of Covid?
It drives me insane. I was watching it happen in real time, screaming about it. No one was listening.
There are people out there who argue that viruses do not exist, that the covid virus was never isolated or identified and that the sicknesses we as people are experiencing is because of the foods we are eating and the chemicals and preservatives they put into the foods. That sickness is the means of the body attempting to de-toxify itself.
I am just a stupid schmuck from rural Utah so I don't know one way or the other. Just things I read from time to time.
Yes, many of us understandably do not trust any official story - especially one that can't be proven.
But I will not say I KNOW what happened, other than that covid19 was hyped and marketed until we all believed it, and that it did usher in cover for the greatest money laundering scheme in history.
Trillions again moved from us to the top .0001%.
Again.
Baloney, Mary, people were listening, me included. My skepticism and cynicism about the government role in Covid was due to listening to you and Night Owl for example. The obvious nature of the poisonous nature of “our” government is a driver.
Covid is real, it is the product of government research and is preserved like the flu now, mutating constantly and passing from host to host is small populations. Society has developed “mass” immunity to the Covid virus, but mutations cause outbreaks, just like the flu.
One of my questions, is why didn’t we make a Covid shot, like the flu shot, with dead viruses? I have an opinion, it is because the mRNA folks got there first. Five years later, we are still paying the price for that decision.
JHK was listening too.
Well thank you JAZ, and I have likewise learned from you. But I don't see absolute proof of what you are claiming, so to me, that means it's all still open to conjecture. One thing that proved that whatever it was, was planned (be it a mass poisoning or virus or whatever), because in March 2020 I saw the WEF's site, because I went poking around, and saw their entire covid19 branding, promotional material, press releases, basically a massive campaign, was already built and disseminated. This had to take months or even years, which people in communications like me would understand. I worked with the marketing dept at a community college at the time in CA and they were given all the marketing materials and a couple of million dollars to spread and instill the propaganda.
That is not what happens in a normal "pandemic." And again, the numbers weren't up to pandemic standards. A pandemic requires a death rate of 4%+.
This was less than a percent - if that.
The hype sure sold it though. And terrorized people into believing it was a big deal.
So "Occams Razor" works against you in your scenario.
It was world wide. So much bigger than American politics. Humanity has to be culled. The useless eaters are using up their world.
Seems that everyone else is lost in the "noise".
The Lab Leak; the True Origins of Covid 19 is an admission of fault by Trump. Surely he knows (or can assume) that anyone obstructing his agendas is the enemy, and if they win, it will be a death sentence for him.
Borge Brende formerly advocated for China, the US, and India, the “Group of Three” as he has deemed them, to step up and take on WEF initiatives in hopes that the rest of the world would follow.
That would be the US under "Joe Biden's" control, and China was a lead player in Covid.
So now, Trump needs to determine which leaders and/or country populations are on his side, and to solidify authority within the US.
Would you agree that Trump recognizes that this is war, and he is just positioning his administration for battle?
Trump is on the side of the Zionists. MAGA is just more MIGA.
Is it your opinion that the WEF and the Zionists were/are at odds?
Is this a power play for world domination?
Where do the Zionists stand on this:
"Last night’s Solovyov program gave the subject ample time, with the host suggesting that Russia is ready to send military vessels to accompany its commercial ships through the Baltic waters and is ready not only to sink whatever navy Estonia thinks it has and to level the country to the ground."
Russian Vessels on the Line: Moscow Threatens Consequences for Baltic Provocations! | TN World
https://gilbertdoctorow.com/
Well, yes that's the question. Apparently, Israel was all in on the Vax, actually used as a global test population. But on other issues, they are very much at odds with the UN crowd. So I'd say they are fine with WEF, which has Rothschild connections, but less so with other factions: the UN, China, Russia, etc.
"The Lab Leak; the True Origins of Covid 19 is an admission of fault by Trump."
It's actually just a ruse, exactly like the bat/pangolin story, to keep people talking about TWO narratives, neither of which is true. There is no Sars-CoV-2 virus. The lab leak story was put out there from the very start as a 'conspiracy theory' to herd the rubes into their respective pens to argue about nonsense, while the agenda rumbles on and on, now speeding up quite noticeably, with digital ID being pushed everywhere.
Raskin to Bukele: ‘Trump administration is not going to last forever’
by Lauren Irwin - 04/21/25 3:42 PM ET
“Look, President Bukele — who’s declared himself a dictator — and the other tyrants, dictators, autocrats of the world have to understand that the Trump administration is not going to last forever,” Raskin said.
“We’re going to restore strong democracy to America, and we will remember who stood up for democracy in America and who tried to drive us down towards dictatorship and autocracy.”
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Raskin and his cohorts are masters at promoting a nonobjective assessment, and accusing their opponents of that which they are guilty.
This is a battle for world domination, with the dominant players being those who have embraced the WEF/2030 Agenda, and Trump and his agenda (and I would venture a guess, along with a majority of the world population).
I think it is critical that Trump gets Japan and India onboard.