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JohnAZ's avatar

I think that the risk vs. reward situation is upside down. Even if a perp is caught now, the DAs let them go. Perps have almost no chance of punishment today, even now.

I wrote a paper in nursing school about the effects of violence on kids. The studies showed that what really “programmed” the kids to violent behavior was unpunished violence, where, for example, the coyote kept coming back for more after getting clobbered by the roadrunner over and over.

I wonder if anyone has figured out that the criminal industry is a very lucrative business today, especially with so many people affected by the lousy economy. Could it be one of the draws for criminals entering the country is the availability of a very developed criminal network? The scum network has a ready made job waiting for them.

Phil? How about Canada, are you seeing the scum networks working up north?

Solution? Just like the 30s, concentrated effort by the FBI and local police to get these folks into cells or offshore. Two examples exist, the 30s as mentioned and the Old West before the Law came in. Both were unpleasant to Joe Average.

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Ben's avatar

Here in sunny southern California the criminal gangs are targeting people's vehicles.

Work trucks are being hit especially hard for the tools usually left in them over night.

The gangs are hitting entire streets busting out windows and stealing anything not bolted down.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

That's the State falling apart and that in-betweeness vacuum that gangs can enter.

But when/as the dust settles, the State might go away for a time and real community might pop back in-- those communities that settle the criminal gangs' hash through 'vigilante justice'-- another term for community self-protection in the absence of the farce of State protection.

Right now, the State's law is disabling 'vigilante justice' through the cliched mindfuck of 'don't take the law into your own hands.'

Criminal gangs don't stand a chance, but you have to look in the mirror sometimes and convince yourself that you're the adult and you don't answer to the decaying Nanny State.

Then you grab some guns, some armed pals and meetup with those gangs.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

You're on fire this morning, Zazzy. You had your Wheaties for sure this morning - or whatever the NS equivalent is. Carry on.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

This is the first day of the end of a medium-level but draggy cold that's been de-Wheatifying me for a little over the past 3 weeks.

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Sam A. Morgan's avatar

Ivermectin... Viruses are parasites. D3 is good too.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

I'm ok, Sam, cold's gone, but good to know for another time, thanks.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

The same is happening in Boise, ID. People aren't prepared for it - but they are getting used to it, sadly, as the area grows because... progress.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

Is this MQ? Just a fond hello if so.

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Disinfected's avatar

Remember, it's Boy-C and not Boy-Z. Boy-Z's a tinpot douchebag calling Ukraine home, for now at least.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

In Canada, it's pronounced, Boy-Zed.

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Disinfected's avatar

Zed, as in Pulp Fiction Zed?

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Phil Denter's avatar

Hey John.

I have not heard immigrant-gang crime-wave stories in Canada like I've recently heard from Ben (SoCal) and Anna (Colorado).

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JohnAZ's avatar

Get that new PM of yours to put the clamp on your border and stop the Latinos and especially Chinese from invading Canada. Then the tariffs will go off like Mexico. You look down here and see what the illegals have done to this country, start fighting the damn Leftists that want them with you.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Nope. Mark Carney is an ex-Goldman Sachs and central banker. He's as Rothschilds as a man can be. He'll do whatever TPTB tell him to do.

Sad but true.

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Illegal Latinos and Chinese are invading Canada? Are you sure? Can you provide a source? [Note: As a known, constant liar, Trump quotes do not count as they are usually unreliable and rarely are proven true.]

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JohnAZ's avatar

Take a trip to Seattle, or Vancouver and visit Little China. Most of the illegals coming into SoCal are Chinese. Think for a moment, Phil, if you wanted to take over without starting a shooting war, how would you do it? Rome was torn down by outsiders taking over. Britain was taken down by outsiders.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Vancouver has how many illegals from China?

I'm unaware of that. Again, please provide a source.

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JohnAZ's avatar

You guys always use this MO to try to tear down others. it will not work here,

2011 Chinese were 1.4% of Canadian population, 2021 they were 1.71%.

By province, 2021, BC, 10.5%, Alberta 4.3%, and Ontario 5.9%.

Vancouver and Richmond? 20%.

Source: Wikipedia

Do not feel bad, the West Coast of the USA is doing exactly the same thing.

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JohnAZ's avatar

AND

Latinos?

2001. 2021

Alberta. 19000. 66000

.6%. 1.6%

BC. 24000. 65000

.6%. 1.3%

Ontario. 106000. 250000

.9%. 1.8%

Quebec. 59000. 172000

.8%. 2.0%

Source: Wikipedia

Look around Phil, you are the tip of the immigration spear. China is encroaching on the world, get it!?!!! Trump understands this, that is why he is a lot smarter than you appear to be.

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JohnAZ's avatar

It is why our countries need to join up to counter this threat.

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Lugh's avatar

Trump wants to bring in millions of Indians. That's the greatest current or nearest threat apart from the Mexicans.

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JohnAZ's avatar

I have not seen any desire on his part to do this. Where are you getting this info that he wants to import Indians? I would also be not in favor of a one sided immigration policy. The USA needs to close borders, tariff up, re-develop its manufacturing sector, deport about a third of the 20 million Biden allowed in, of all types and only then allow Lady Liberty to shine her light. You and I are not very far apart on people needing to take ownership for themselves.

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Phil Denter's avatar

We don't buy the shit that your orange turd is selling, John.

See, we live right beside you. We can see you better than you can see your self-absorbed self. Yes, we see your good but we also see your bad.

For example, you're all brainwashed that "Wall Street should run our health care because socialized medicine ... MAKE ME MAD!" Every other country in the free world (now there's a term that you don't hear as much as you used to, eh?) knows that health care is exactly the business that a government should be in for the good of all of its citizens. Everyone but youse, youse big dopes.

"Obscene profits for large corporations has served us so well in our MIC, higher education, banking, hip hop-fed prisons, etc. that I sure am glad that Bill's kid can't afford to treat his illness!"

No. Leave us the fuck alone, thank you very much.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Uh, how come so many Canadians come to the United States for procedures because they have to wait years for elective procedures?

How come Green Alba was so critical of the NHS in Britain?

I would be very glad to leave you alone and sink in your own cesspools.

We have lots of Canadian snowbirds here that I talk to and they are NOT as enamored with your healthcare as you are.

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JohnAZ's avatar

I am ready?

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Phil Denter's avatar

Those are legal migrants, John.

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Asking for a source to back your assertions is not an MO. That is standard debate procedure.

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cbeard's avatar

Legal doesn't mean it's right or a good thing.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Definitely ... but that's OUR business in OUR sovereign nation, right?

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JohnAZ's avatar

I was waiting for you. Okay, you make lots of claims about Trump being dumb,etc. Where are your sources that he is wrong, that both our countries are not targets? You don’t have any. And you are right, that means with illegals you are in worse shape than what the data says. Just like here.

Now, about your sources? And what ideas do you have to stem the flow of Legals and illegals into our countries?

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Phil Denter's avatar

I don't think that Trump is dumb. I think that he's buffoon, if that helps.

I believe that every country on earth is a target, John. I believe that Trump will consolidate Greenland, Canada and USA into NWO's Region 1 as published in Philadelphia in 1942 (before your orange turd was even born).

Region 1 aligns with Revelation's "ten kingdoms." Here is a version of the map:

https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3200.ct001256/?r=-0.13,0,1.246,0.545,0

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Just so you know: I am posting my own analysis. I don't have links for my own analysis because, unlike most people, I don't just regurgitate someone else's analysis.

In a debate, you don't expect links to your opponent's analysis but you do expect links for factual claims like, for example, your claims that Canada has a Chinese illegal immigrant problem when I, a Canadian living in Canada, have never heard that before.

You see the difference, right? You can ask for links if I'm making factual claims but you're going to have to judge my analysis on its logic and, with time, its track record.

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We don't have an immigration problem in Canada, John. Legal &/or illegal. At least, not one that we want you to come barging to solve, that's for sure!

We have legal immigrants and they join our mosaic (we consider ourselves a mosaic, not a melting pot). You project your country's mess onto Canada but you're wrong.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Omigod, your credibility just disappeared. You are saying that we are just to believe you, that you do not need to justify your claims. Go away, troll.

Vancouver is 20% Chinese? That is not a problem? All areas in Canada is doubling Chinese and Latino immigration, that is not a problem. You are in complete denial, trying to defend an indefensible position.

I believe the Chinese, Latin America and the Afro-Middle East are doing a masterful job of inundating Europe and the USA. They are destroying the West and you just agreed with them. “We don’t have an immigration problem”? Hahahahahahahahaha!

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SheilaB's avatar

Mark 'Carnage' is a technocrat up to his evil eyeballs. While he was still head of the Bank of England he said companies that wouldn't go along with the ESG stuff would simply not survive.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Yes. Sadly, much like any Dem vs GOP election, Carney's competition, Pierre Poilievre, appears to be yet another skunk.

TPTB fix the entire game. We cannot vote our way out of tyranny any more than we can comply our way out.

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John Mendelssohn's avatar

Hold on one second here, Phil. You're saying that MR. Trump (we are careful to sound respectful around Mr. Kunstler) is a liar? If you don't like it here, as people like Mr. K used to demand of me in my student activities days, why don't you move to Russia?

Oops.

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Phil Denter's avatar

I'd like it here just fine if we cleaned house.

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Ben's avatar

I suspect you would be part of the ousted if house was cleaned here.

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Ben's avatar
Mar 11Edited

The crime wave is not being blamed on immigrants per se.

Just that people are wandering down streets breaking into every car on that street.

Could be illegals could be gang bangers or as is more the case tweakers looking for meth money.

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Phil Denter's avatar

You're so not SoCal, Ben. But it makes sense that you need to be in San Diego. I would think that you'd more comfortable in Dubya's East Texas.

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