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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Lisa - I agree, 100%, but not so sure anything is going to happen. Other than "making sure it never happens again". Makes my blood boil every time I hear that one. It's clear that we live in a lawless country, people just can't wrap their heads around it. When crimes are committed openly, with more than ample evidence of criminal conduct, and nothing is done about it, that, by definition is lawless. No other way to describe it.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Lawless for the elites and politically connected, Ron. We little people still have to abide the law, pay our taxes and be good little shoppers. Otherwise we end up in jail with the gangsters and the sodomites. Nobody is above the law except in America where the elites are above the law. Period. That makes my eyes bleed with anger.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

There are a few channels on YouTube where independent guys find and take down the degenerate pedo pervs who sit in their trailers and plot to meet up with kids and contribute to the problem of trafficking and child porn. But they are the low-level scum. They are the ones that get caught and everyone then feels good knowing one less perv is off the street, never really thinking about the massive power behind what made those guys able to get to that porn in the first place. Same as it ever was.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

So true. The porn industry is massive, generating multiple billions every year. Perversion has always existed but I can only imagine how much perversion has proliferated since porn became instantly available at everybody's finger tips.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Degeneracy has been promoted, sold on a massive scale to the public, since the CIA began its programs post WWII. So people that are already degenerates and low-lives, sociopaths, psychopaths, sexual deviants - have it made. They've been coaxed out of the shadows and given the spotlight. If that isn't a sign of cultural collapse, I don't know what is.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Nail on head, Mary.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Thank you, Ron.

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wkenn's avatar

McAfee left some cryptic crumbs, maybe on Gab, a few years ago, regarding this. Cautioned to avoid it, as it was a funding source.

I'd need to try a search, maybe another time, it's past midnight on the East Coast... slow fade...

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wkenn's avatar

Here's as good a place as any to begin, a quick, somewhat random search, maybe it leads back to the posts around the alleged demise.

https://x.com/iluminatibot/status/1898149162069193025

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

I might fancy a hypothesis that the more fucked-up a society is/gets, the porn follows suit, perhaps like most everything else... porn, school, medicine... take your pick.

We are living in a fucked-up society, folks-- to be charitable with the definition of 'society'. As if we need to point that out.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

People literally worship degeneracy and demand that it be included in all of our "entertainment" and culture, so I would tend to agree - 100%. Look at how low the bar has gone since, say, the 1950s. As family units have been destroyed to make way for the "freedom" of sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll, and "coolness." One of my sisters, a teacher, says the F word 3 times per sentence but that's "edgy." Nope, to me, it's just profane. I don't want to hear it. But that's OK now in regular society. Just as it is in Portland for a dad and his young son to be sitting eating ice cream cones near someone shooting up heroin. How "cool"!

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Yirgach's avatar

It appears that when a society becomes too rich and unbalanced with too much spare time (which used to be spent on warding off winter starvation/disease) that it turns to debauchery. Nowadays we have technology to add to the firehose. Look out below.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

BINGO! Spot on Yirgach. You get it. We as a society have had it far too good for far too long. Instead of worrying about our next meal or working to build our shelter, our people have ample mental "space" to think on other things. Thus, out of literal boredom, they proliferate perversion, filth, decadence and immorality. They glom onto "causes" such as the environment, animal rights, and of course sexual deviancy.

If we had to spend more time producing our meals and maintaining our shelter many of these things that our people obsess over would simply disappear.

The curse of a wealthy society is real and we haven't evolved to the point that we can overcome our own greed and desires for power.

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Yirgach's avatar

Well said CP.

I know from many elders here in VT that life in VT was really brutal.

Very hard to imagine nowadays . Electricity was a God send and cheap energy a miracle.

Now they are doing everything they can to stop it.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Well said.

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

Inclined to thing the process is circular or, perhaps, a spiral. Bad folks, bad porn, more bad folks, badder porn, and so forth. But these distinctions are niceties. Bottom line: both life and art imitate each other and each is execrable.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

You're channeling me this morning, Zazzy. Pick a place, let's start anew.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

I bought a couple more power-tools over the weekend for building/woodworking, along with a two-for-one on tape-measures. I'm slowly going outside of my comfort-zone with this kind of investment that's getting expensive. It's sort of like when you start going beyond some critical point where it's hard to back out of and the pressure of commitment is increasingly hanging over your head. ('What am I getting myself into?')

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RickyRitardo's avatar

Woodworking, heh? Perhaps pick up a geetar kit and become an amateur luthier. I've dabbled in it over the years.

https://guitarspace.org/acoustic-guitars/best-diy-acoustic-guitar-kits/

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

I love acoustic musical instruments of many kinds, they can be very beautiful. Even in You Tube videos, where the subject has nothing to do with that, there might be the odd guitar or whatever lying or hanging around on the walls in the backgrounds.

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Insomnia

youtu.be/hy1amTQZj8M?si=XCdLTMdF2cFNetZM

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Zazzy, you'll do fine. You already have the creativity; that's the hard part. The rest is easy. There are people who say, I'll believe it when I see it. The truth is, we see it, when we believe it. Look around - everything you see, was once imagined - a belief.

Cavemen sat around in caves on cold, hard, dirt floors until one imagined a thing that had four legs, was elevated, and could be cushioned with pelts or moss. He fashioned it one day and brought it in the cave. He called it a chair.

The others believed it when they saw it, but had he not believed it before seeing it, they'd all still be sitting around on their asses.

Good quality tools are worth the investment. Look for vintage tools, many will last a lifetime. Check out pawn shops - many people put up tools, when short on money. Garage and estate sales are also a great source of tools. All three can contain real bargains, quality tools at a tenth of retail - and usually better made.

I have a custom designed piece - a combination corner table/end table/3-bottle wine rack design - that I haven't licensed yet - a funky custom design. The flagship piece for Funksional Furniture - a shop adjoining the cafe, which will craft custom furniture, but also hire out to build tiny houses.

Good that you got two tape measures - the old carpenter's sage advice - "Measure twice, cut once."

I've built houses, decks, custom furniture, "turned" wood bowls (on a lathe) - carpentry/woodworking is a great creative outlet, you'll love it, but don't stress over it, enjoy it.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

Thanks for the encouragement, advice and the good points/analogies, Ron.

So you've built houses, etc.? Well then maybe I'll see if I can get away with picking your brain on the odd occasion or at least you're welcomed to offer any advice any time.

There's a lot one can do in/with carpentry of course, that's what's great about it and the material, wood, but I'll take a shot at tiny houses, alone, maybe including timberframe. It is imagined that, given increasing poverty, increasing prices with everything, including home-prices and increasing homelessness, the market might be ripe for tiny houses on a dime.

Did you say that you have a friend from Bic/Rimouski and that you had an idea to relocate there?

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

Mandatory State-prescribed curricula for children is a perversion that parents wilfully let happen, wilfully let their children be literally kidnapped-- Pied Pipered-- into.

Meanwhile, at some of America's schools, the children get abused in different ways and worse, shot and killed.

Your Rule of Law Jesus isn't going to save you.

You and a real community that is empowered to take care of itself might.

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Another Brick In The Wall

youtu.be/bZwxTX2pWmw?si=oQYu-IQiYBK4pRFF

School

youtu.be/BznKC3Umc8A?si=ZSWdtdoTyStUsDwd

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Morning Zazzy - nice post as usual - substantive as always.

Playing catch up now. 1) Le Bic, on the shore, adjacent Rimouski 2) Check out the Amish that went to Western NC and built tiny houses for the Hurricane Helene flood victims - 12 houses built in 48 hours, at a cost of $300K - all of which they did for free - most Master Carpenters.

On State-prescribed curricula, you are correct. Read a study years ago, that in Sweden (I think) formal school doesn't start until 7-years old. Data shows they academically outperformed every other industrialized country in later years.

There's a reason Obama and his ilk kept pushing for earlier and earlier pre-school "education" - Head Start - easier to bend those young minds. Preceded by the Bushs - Dubya and Jeb - with their "No Child Left Behind" indoctrination program foolishness.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

In my comment, I just edited out 'under a certain age' in part because State-mandated anything at any age is fundamentally unethical because it's coercive.

I initially put 'under a certain age' because after a certain age, State-mandated curricula are not mandatory. So we won't have a social worker appear at our doors to question us about why our children, between certain ages, are not at school or submitting their tests.

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tom clark's avatar

And by all means, don't let school get in the way of your education.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

~ Tom's School ~

I understand that some parents will be more fish-like than other parents and so be fine with laying their offspring like eggs to whatever/whoever happens.

Human beings and fish can of course peacefully coexist, as long as the fish don't impose their ways on we mammals.

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Scary School Nightmare

youtu.be/R3ONppw67VU?si=mIeMTMDNPrjT5bxL

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Phil Denter's avatar

Alan Parker's Pink Floyd: The Wall (1982) is a highly under-rated cinematic masterpiece.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

"In the mid-1970s, as Pink Floyd gained mainstream fame, songwriter Roger Waters began feeling increasingly alienated from his audiences:

Audiences at those vast concerts are there for an excitement which, I think, has to do with the love of success. When a band or a person becomes an idol, it can have to do with the success that that person manifests, not the quality of work he produces. You don't become a fanatic because somebody's work is good, you become a fanatic to be touched vicariously by their glamour and fame. Stars—film stars, rock 'n' roll stars—represent, in myth anyway, the life as we'd all like to live it. They seem at the very centre of life. And that's why audiences still spend large sums of money at concerts where they are a long, long way from the stage, where they are often very uncomfortable, and where the sound is often very bad."

~ Wikipedia

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Free Radical's avatar

Rule of law is for pussies. So lame!

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

I'm down with the laws of physics.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

The State and their 'Rule of Law' is just yet another religion that does little for those who would have few ethical compunctions to do no harm/wrong. It's yet again an example of the classic priests abusing the children; their religion doesn't work on/for them.

If anything, as Cankerpuss' comment suggests, the State's 'Ten-Commandments Rule of Law' can often function as a hamstring against those who don't need it while helping to enable those who would.

You want real law? Try 'the law of the jungle' that 'the rule of lawyers' keep trying to disparage in support of their own.

We have no real, healthy, self-protecting communities anymore that would make the State's Rule of Law irrelevant and worse, such that it is.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Exactly. Why have Bill Gates and Bill Clinton not been arrested for raping children on Epstein Island?

Could it possibly have something to do with their wealth and power?

If the law is never actually enforced against such people, then "rule of law" is a sham and our government is entirely illegitimate, merely an occupying force in continuous violation of the Constitution.

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JohnAZ's avatar

I think that the risk vs. reward situation is upside down. Even if a perp is caught now, the DAs let them go. Perps have almost no chance of punishment today, even now.

I wrote a paper in nursing school about the effects of violence on kids. The studies showed that what really “programmed” the kids to violent behavior was unpunished violence, where, for example, the coyote kept coming back for more after getting clobbered by the roadrunner over and over.

I wonder if anyone has figured out that the criminal industry is a very lucrative business today, especially with so many people affected by the lousy economy. Could it be one of the draws for criminals entering the country is the availability of a very developed criminal network? The scum network has a ready made job waiting for them.

Phil? How about Canada, are you seeing the scum networks working up north?

Solution? Just like the 30s, concentrated effort by the FBI and local police to get these folks into cells or offshore. Two examples exist, the 30s as mentioned and the Old West before the Law came in. Both were unpleasant to Joe Average.

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Ben's avatar

Here in sunny southern California the criminal gangs are targeting people's vehicles.

Work trucks are being hit especially hard for the tools usually left in them over night.

The gangs are hitting entire streets busting out windows and stealing anything not bolted down.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

That's the State falling apart and that in-betweeness vacuum that gangs can enter.

But when/as the dust settles, the State might go away for a time and real community might pop back in-- those communities that settle the criminal gangs' hash through 'vigilante justice'-- another term for community self-protection in the absence of the farce of State protection.

Right now, the State's law is disabling 'vigilante justice' through the cliched mindfuck of 'don't take the law into your own hands.'

Criminal gangs don't stand a chance, but you have to look in the mirror sometimes and convince yourself that you're the adult and you don't answer to the decaying Nanny State.

Then you grab some guns, some armed pals and meetup with those gangs.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

You're on fire this morning, Zazzy. You had your Wheaties for sure this morning - or whatever the NS equivalent is. Carry on.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

This is the first day of the end of a medium-level but draggy cold that's been de-Wheatifying me for a little over the past 3 weeks.

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Sam A. Morgan's avatar

Ivermectin... Viruses are parasites. D3 is good too.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

I'm ok, Sam, cold's gone, but good to know for another time, thanks.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

The same is happening in Boise, ID. People aren't prepared for it - but they are getting used to it, sadly, as the area grows because... progress.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

Is this MQ? Just a fond hello if so.

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Disinfected's avatar

Remember, it's Boy-C and not Boy-Z. Boy-Z's a tinpot douchebag calling Ukraine home, for now at least.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

In Canada, it's pronounced, Boy-Zed.

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Disinfected's avatar

Zed, as in Pulp Fiction Zed?

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Phil Denter's avatar

Hey John.

I have not heard immigrant-gang crime-wave stories in Canada like I've recently heard from Ben (SoCal) and Anna (Colorado).

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JohnAZ's avatar

Get that new PM of yours to put the clamp on your border and stop the Latinos and especially Chinese from invading Canada. Then the tariffs will go off like Mexico. You look down here and see what the illegals have done to this country, start fighting the damn Leftists that want them with you.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Nope. Mark Carney is an ex-Goldman Sachs and central banker. He's as Rothschilds as a man can be. He'll do whatever TPTB tell him to do.

Sad but true.

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Illegal Latinos and Chinese are invading Canada? Are you sure? Can you provide a source? [Note: As a known, constant liar, Trump quotes do not count as they are usually unreliable and rarely are proven true.]

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JohnAZ's avatar

Take a trip to Seattle, or Vancouver and visit Little China. Most of the illegals coming into SoCal are Chinese. Think for a moment, Phil, if you wanted to take over without starting a shooting war, how would you do it? Rome was torn down by outsiders taking over. Britain was taken down by outsiders.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Vancouver has how many illegals from China?

I'm unaware of that. Again, please provide a source.

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JohnAZ's avatar

You guys always use this MO to try to tear down others. it will not work here,

2011 Chinese were 1.4% of Canadian population, 2021 they were 1.71%.

By province, 2021, BC, 10.5%, Alberta 4.3%, and Ontario 5.9%.

Vancouver and Richmond? 20%.

Source: Wikipedia

Do not feel bad, the West Coast of the USA is doing exactly the same thing.

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JohnAZ's avatar

AND

Latinos?

2001. 2021

Alberta. 19000. 66000

.6%. 1.6%

BC. 24000. 65000

.6%. 1.3%

Ontario. 106000. 250000

.9%. 1.8%

Quebec. 59000. 172000

.8%. 2.0%

Source: Wikipedia

Look around Phil, you are the tip of the immigration spear. China is encroaching on the world, get it!?!!! Trump understands this, that is why he is a lot smarter than you appear to be.

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JohnAZ's avatar

It is why our countries need to join up to counter this threat.

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Lugh's avatar

Trump wants to bring in millions of Indians. That's the greatest current or nearest threat apart from the Mexicans.

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Phil Denter's avatar

We don't buy the shit that your orange turd is selling, John.

See, we live right beside you. We can see you better than you can see your self-absorbed self. Yes, we see your good but we also see your bad.

For example, you're all brainwashed that "Wall Street should run our health care because socialized medicine ... MAKE ME MAD!" Every other country in the free world (now there's a term that you don't hear as much as you used to, eh?) knows that health care is exactly the business that a government should be in for the good of all of its citizens. Everyone but youse, youse big dopes.

"Obscene profits for large corporations has served us so well in our MIC, higher education, banking, hip hop-fed prisons, etc. that I sure am glad that Bill's kid can't afford to treat his illness!"

No. Leave us the fuck alone, thank you very much.

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JohnAZ's avatar

I am ready?

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Phil Denter's avatar

Those are legal migrants, John.

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Asking for a source to back your assertions is not an MO. That is standard debate procedure.

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cbeard's avatar

Legal doesn't mean it's right or a good thing.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Definitely ... but that's OUR business in OUR sovereign nation, right?

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JohnAZ's avatar

I was waiting for you. Okay, you make lots of claims about Trump being dumb,etc. Where are your sources that he is wrong, that both our countries are not targets? You don’t have any. And you are right, that means with illegals you are in worse shape than what the data says. Just like here.

Now, about your sources? And what ideas do you have to stem the flow of Legals and illegals into our countries?

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Phil Denter's avatar

I don't think that Trump is dumb. I think that he's buffoon, if that helps.

I believe that every country on earth is a target, John. I believe that Trump will consolidate Greenland, Canada and USA into NWO's Region 1 as published in Philadelphia in 1942 (before your orange turd was even born).

Region 1 aligns with Revelation's "ten kingdoms." Here is a version of the map:

https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3200.ct001256/?r=-0.13,0,1.246,0.545,0

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Just so you know: I am posting my own analysis. I don't have links for my own analysis because, unlike most people, I don't just regurgitate someone else's analysis.

In a debate, you don't expect links to your opponent's analysis but you do expect links for factual claims like, for example, your claims that Canada has a Chinese illegal immigrant problem when I, a Canadian living in Canada, have never heard that before.

You see the difference, right? You can ask for links if I'm making factual claims but you're going to have to judge my analysis on its logic and, with time, its track record.

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We don't have an immigration problem in Canada, John. Legal &/or illegal. At least, not one that we want you to come barging to solve, that's for sure!

We have legal immigrants and they join our mosaic (we consider ourselves a mosaic, not a melting pot). You project your country's mess onto Canada but you're wrong.

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SheilaB's avatar

Mark 'Carnage' is a technocrat up to his evil eyeballs. While he was still head of the Bank of England he said companies that wouldn't go along with the ESG stuff would simply not survive.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Yes. Sadly, much like any Dem vs GOP election, Carney's competition, Pierre Poilievre, appears to be yet another skunk.

TPTB fix the entire game. We cannot vote our way out of tyranny any more than we can comply our way out.

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John Mendelssohn's avatar

Hold on one second here, Phil. You're saying that MR. Trump (we are careful to sound respectful around Mr. Kunstler) is a liar? If you don't like it here, as people like Mr. K used to demand of me in my student activities days, why don't you move to Russia?

Oops.

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Phil Denter's avatar

I'd like it here just fine if we cleaned house.

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Ben's avatar

I suspect you would be part of the ousted if house was cleaned here.

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Ben's avatar
Mar 11Edited

The crime wave is not being blamed on immigrants per se.

Just that people are wandering down streets breaking into every car on that street.

Could be illegals could be gang bangers or as is more the case tweakers looking for meth money.

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Phil Denter's avatar

You're so not SoCal, Ben. But it makes sense that you need to be in San Diego. I would think that you'd more comfortable in Dubya's East Texas.

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Tom S.'s avatar

Crimes gone unpunished will definitely happen again.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

For example, the worst crime against humanity ever, the mandates to inject poison mRNA.

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Don Reed's avatar

"Patience." A good idea. Especially between March 15th-April 7th, 2025, when a lot of wheels will be falling off the wagons.

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Cape Tribulation's avatar

If nothing happens now then it will be certain that “that which can never be allowed to happen again” is more than certain to happen again.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Cape - you missed my point. It never does happen again, so that excuses the prior event - with no punishment - only assurances that it will never happen again.

Skyscrapers "felled by planes"? Has never happened again (Thanks TSA and "Patriot" Act). Federal Building blown up by a "fertilizer bomb", by a "homegrown terrorist"? Has never happened again (because they saved us from the Montana Freemen Militia, thanks FBI). Population locked down? Mistakes were made, but it won't ever happen again (Thanks WHO and CDC).

So, they really are protecting us, they're batting 1000. So, the only thing we have to worry about is the next thing that happens, but even then, no matter how bad it is, we can rest assured "that it'll never happen again". It's like a self-licking ice cream cone.

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Strange Bedfellow's avatar

"...a self-licking ice cream cone." ~ Ron Anselmo

That might make for an interesting AI video text prompt.

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wkenn's avatar

Puts us into a WROL situation, a very dangerous place. Without rule of law creates unintended consequences. These people don't appear to think it could happen to them, as they are above the law. Once the law disappears it gets more than nasty.

Hemp is a renewable and reuseable commodity.

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John Mendelssohn's avatar

When folks speak of unpunished crimes, I sometimes think of MR. Trump's having inspired a deadly insurrection, but then I read in places like this that the whole thing was Nancy Pelosi's fault, or Gen. Milley's, or George Soro's, or Stacey Abrams' and realize I am 'way off base. MR. Trump happens to be about lawfulest person a body could hope to meet!

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Over eight years of intense politically motivated investigations. Two impeachments. The Mueller "investigation". The J6 Committee. Not an outstanding parking ticket. Not an overdue library book. You may not like what he's done, but I can assure you, it's all been legal. Can't say the same for some others.

Deadly? Only for Ashli Babbitt. Murdered at point blank range by a Capitol Police officer. Oh, that's right, he wasn't guilty, no charges were filed. Sure hope that happens to me, if I ever "accidently" shoot someone. It will be an accidental shooting; I'm telling you right now.

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John Mendelssohn's avatar

I liked the library book joke, Ron! My understanding is that Ms. Babbitt’s death was a result of her ignoring a clear instruction not to continue trying to break into a that portion of the Capitol the guy who killed her was protecting.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Yeah, a real tough guy - shooting an unarmed woman. The only reason he didn't simply put her in a headlock, was that she would have kicked his ass.

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John Mendelssohn's avatar

This is a question I ask all the new friends I’ve made via Mr. Kunstler’s page. What are you feelings about MR. Trump’s devotion to an autocrat whose has his detractors either poisoned or dropped out of the windows of tall buildings? I personally find that kind of distasteful.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

You got me, John. An awful lot of people have ended up dead around the Clintons, but I can't remember anyone being poisoned or being dropped out of a window. But there was Vince Foster who shot himself in the back of the head. Not only was he the White House Counsel, but who knew he was also a double-jointed contortionist. Plus, I don't think Trump was devoted to them in any way, but I could be wrong.

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Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

"MR. Trump's having inspired a deadly insurrection" LOL

Where nobody had guns in the most heavily armed country in the World! But had bus tickets to get themselves home in time to watch themselves on TV.

GMAFB Mendlessohn

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

The whole J6 thing was an entrapment operation:

https://patrick.net/post/1378157/2023-01-01-january-6th-should-be-a-national

Just watch the video of the Buffalo Guy being given a _tour_ of the Capitol by police, and then being arrested.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Walter - that's my point, we're already there, and have been - WROL, as you say.

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