But GOD always seems to be left out of the solutions. We as in all of us are not the big who dits
GOD is. HE tells us how to heal our land. I agree we need to revert back to the basics but HE IS involved in this. HE has given us a 2nd chance. HE IS fulfilling HIS promises and prophecy IS being fulfilled in front of our eyes. I support loc…
But GOD always seems to be left out of the solutions. We as in all of us are not the big who dits
GOD is. HE tells us how to heal our land. I agree we need to revert back to the basics but HE IS involved in this. HE has given us a 2nd chance. HE IS fulfilling HIS promises and prophecy IS being fulfilled in front of our eyes. I support local farmers. Grow our own food. Re-purpose as many things as I can. BUT I still believe GOD and HIS words.
How about supporting our local, regional and national goods manufacturers with Trump’s up-coming tariff schedule? How about shopping at local stores instead of Walmart.
My family’s home was in northwest PA. When auto manufacturing was at its peak in Detroit, that entire region was supported as tool and die support with auto parts. It is now an economic desert.
Interesting comment, Carolyn. I don't disagree with you because, well, I don't really know anymore. As a devout Christian and believer in Jesus Christ I try to hold on until the end when he comes again but as the years march on and nothing happens I find myself growing ever more impatient. This being known as "God" gives mighty deference to the wicked secret combinations bent on getting gain and committing murders and whoredoms. I hope you are right. I hope that He is involved.
I once spent several entertaining minutes being towed around a lake by a walleye I had on the line. Until it headed for a submerged tree, at which time I knew the fun had to come to an end.
Too bad ol' Denny Wormwood (damn spellchecker!) isn't as entertaining, smart, or tasty as a walleye.
Notice how this poster, Cankerpuss, and his bosom buddy, Cheryl, NEVER offer any valid counterarguments to the points one makes in their posts.
They can't. They know your points are the truth.
So, they just resort to slinging their low-class trailer trash shit at your character. Ad hominin attacks; where they attack the character, motive, or some other attribute of the poster rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids them having to have a genuine debate and show their ignorance.
Don't bother with trying to have a rational conversation with either of them. It's worse than banging your head against a brick wall. At least the brick wall does not insult you back. LOL
What I usually see is when believers come into this argument, they immediately start becoming self-referential, trying to “prove” the Bible by simply quoting it. Then, if that fails, we all get to play a rousing round of: Christian Excuse Bingo.
1. You’re reading THAT text out of context.
2. You’re going to the wrong denomination.
3. You’re reading the wrong interpretation of the Bible.
4. You’re not REALLY believing in God/Jesus with all your heart.
5. When God does it, it’s NOT evil.
6. You just need to have faith.
7. Just look around you at world events, it proves the Bible is real.
8. It sounds like you have some things on your heart that you haven’t asked forgiveness for and THAT is why you haven’t received blessings.
9. You just secretly just want to sin.
10. Atheism is just another religion.
11. You’re just mad at God.
12. If you stopped believing in God, what’s stopping you from committing horrible actions against people?
13. Wouldn’t it be better to just believe in case you’re wrong?
14. That was Old Testament, so it doesn’t count.
15. Its in the bible, so it must be true.
16. The list is infinite. (after all, the Bible is the word of God. LOL)
And of course, if all else fails.
“That’s fine, you’re ignorant and going to hell if you don't repent!”
"Open your heart to Jesus" (code for: you can convince yourself a non-existent being is real if you try hard enough.)
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Religious folk prove every day that arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand.
This is the 'love' one gets for daring to criticize religion. Religion is sacred.
An atheist reads many books and knows he must learn more. While a Christian partly reads one very old book written by unknown authors and has been edited hundreds of times, and there are many versions of, and thinks he knows everything!
God doesn't expect us to do nothing except pray. He helps those who help ourselves. Certainly, prayer and intention are huge. But also loving acts, which include sharing and building a life here on earth for ourselves, following the ways of Christ.
How has he told us how to heal the land? Got a link to that? LOL
That HE is fulfilling HIS promises and prophecy IS being fulfilled in front of our eyes is a bunch of baloney. Care to give us some evidence of this claim. Betcha can't.
Is this the same "God" who has stood by with folded arms and done NOTHING while 60,000+ of his creations have been slaughtered in Gaza? Not INVOLVED in this one Iota, eh? Too busy I suppose!
"God" picked this version of the universe, and he will burn you forever because he loves you so much, after creating you to not believe... Yeah makes sense!
Christianity: The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.
Enough of the bullshit! Just present the evidence for the existence of your “God” and that's all. Why do we have to die to see God, why can’t we see him now?
God only exists in the minds of people who need him to give answers to questions they want to hear.
Why disrespect someone so viciously for their beliefs? Do you think this post makes you look better or worse in the eyes of your fellow man? Oh, I think you know. There is nothing good that can come out of being this angry and hateful toward a total stranger on the Internet just because you don't see the world like they do. Your post looks no different than the rantings of so many anti-white racists or tranny activists, angry at the world because it doesn't conform to your expectations. All the negative posts in the world aren't gonna help you in any way and certainly aren't going to change how many people believe in God or don't. An intelligent, well-balanced person would know this.
Ruth Gordon, Dennis Merwood is a troll. He trolls these threads and zeroes in on anyone who mentions prayer, faith, religion or god. The best thing to do with Dennis Merwood is just laugh at his comments. All in all he can be quite entertaining but to try and debate with him is a fruitless endeavor. You will note that he rarely posts a comment that doesn't involve berating or denigrating someone's religious beliefs.
Dennis Merwood detests me. I made the mistake once of mentioning my Christian faith and he glommed onto me like stink on poop. He still comes around and makes his lame arguments about how all religious people are nut jobs, deceived and stupid. I actually enjoy his comments. Arguing with him is better than going to the movies. Sometimes he has interesting thoughts but he always regresses back to name calling, insults and insinuations of stupidity. It's quite entertaining to engage him.
But you chose to attack, not them. They simply stated a belief and, unprovoked you went on a tirade you probably copy and paste a hundred times a day. You're pitiful.
haha yeah I figured so. Bullies always pull the same tactic. As soon as you corner them they try to claim they are just doing what you are doing even though they always start the trouble. Same tired old leftist tactics. Of all the windmills in the world to joust against, the belief of people who are the most peaceful and forgiving is so misplaced it smacks of mental illness. And I already know what the response to this will be so it's my last comment. I dare say this is the kind of person who wouldn't dare say these things to another man's face.
But GOD always seems to be left out of the solutions. We as in all of us are not the big who dits
GOD is. HE tells us how to heal our land. I agree we need to revert back to the basics but HE IS involved in this. HE has given us a 2nd chance. HE IS fulfilling HIS promises and prophecy IS being fulfilled in front of our eyes. I support local farmers. Grow our own food. Re-purpose as many things as I can. BUT I still believe GOD and HIS words.
“I support local farmers. Right on.
How about supporting our local, regional and national goods manufacturers with Trump’s up-coming tariff schedule? How about shopping at local stores instead of Walmart.
My family’s home was in northwest PA. When auto manufacturing was at its peak in Detroit, that entire region was supported as tool and die support with auto parts. It is now an economic desert.
Interesting comment, Carolyn. I don't disagree with you because, well, I don't really know anymore. As a devout Christian and believer in Jesus Christ I try to hold on until the end when he comes again but as the years march on and nothing happens I find myself growing ever more impatient. This being known as "God" gives mighty deference to the wicked secret combinations bent on getting gain and committing murders and whoredoms. I hope you are right. I hope that He is involved.
When inventing a “God”, the most important thing is to claim it is invisible, inaudible, and imperceptible in every way.
Otherwise, people will become skeptical when it appears to no one, is silent and does nothing.
Ha! Dennis Merwood took the bait! How I have missed your entertaining and amusing comments Dennis Merwood! Where have you been????
Lock your reel and get ready for a ride!
I once spent several entertaining minutes being towed around a lake by a walleye I had on the line. Until it headed for a submerged tree, at which time I knew the fun had to come to an end.
Too bad ol' Denny Wormwood (damn spellchecker!) isn't as entertaining, smart, or tasty as a walleye.
Notice how this poster, Cankerpuss, and his bosom buddy, Cheryl, NEVER offer any valid counterarguments to the points one makes in their posts.
They can't. They know your points are the truth.
So, they just resort to slinging their low-class trailer trash shit at your character. Ad hominin attacks; where they attack the character, motive, or some other attribute of the poster rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids them having to have a genuine debate and show their ignorance.
Don't bother with trying to have a rational conversation with either of them. It's worse than banging your head against a brick wall. At least the brick wall does not insult you back. LOL
I'll save myself a lot of typing today:
What I usually see is when believers come into this argument, they immediately start becoming self-referential, trying to “prove” the Bible by simply quoting it. Then, if that fails, we all get to play a rousing round of: Christian Excuse Bingo.
1. You’re reading THAT text out of context.
2. You’re going to the wrong denomination.
3. You’re reading the wrong interpretation of the Bible.
4. You’re not REALLY believing in God/Jesus with all your heart.
5. When God does it, it’s NOT evil.
6. You just need to have faith.
7. Just look around you at world events, it proves the Bible is real.
8. It sounds like you have some things on your heart that you haven’t asked forgiveness for and THAT is why you haven’t received blessings.
9. You just secretly just want to sin.
10. Atheism is just another religion.
11. You’re just mad at God.
12. If you stopped believing in God, what’s stopping you from committing horrible actions against people?
13. Wouldn’t it be better to just believe in case you’re wrong?
14. That was Old Testament, so it doesn’t count.
15. Its in the bible, so it must be true.
16. The list is infinite. (after all, the Bible is the word of God. LOL)
And of course, if all else fails.
“That’s fine, you’re ignorant and going to hell if you don't repent!”
"Open your heart to Jesus" (code for: you can convince yourself a non-existent being is real if you try hard enough.)
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Religious folk prove every day that arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand.
This is the 'love' one gets for daring to criticize religion. Religion is sacred.
Too long. I didn't read it.
An atheist reads many books and knows he must learn more. While a Christian partly reads one very old book written by unknown authors and has been edited hundreds of times, and there are many versions of, and thinks he knows everything!
God doesn't expect us to do nothing except pray. He helps those who help ourselves. Certainly, prayer and intention are huge. But also loving acts, which include sharing and building a life here on earth for ourselves, following the ways of Christ.
Prayer: God has his plan for everything, but you can tell him he is all fucked up and he needs to change it to your better plan!" - George Carlin.
God breaks everything so that He can fix it. So that you can experience contrast after God makes you in His image.
"God" never has uttered a word my dear Carolyn!
How has he told us how to heal the land? Got a link to that? LOL
That HE is fulfilling HIS promises and prophecy IS being fulfilled in front of our eyes is a bunch of baloney. Care to give us some evidence of this claim. Betcha can't.
Is this the same "God" who has stood by with folded arms and done NOTHING while 60,000+ of his creations have been slaughtered in Gaza? Not INVOLVED in this one Iota, eh? Too busy I suppose!
"God" picked this version of the universe, and he will burn you forever because he loves you so much, after creating you to not believe... Yeah makes sense!
Christianity: The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.
Enough of the bullshit! Just present the evidence for the existence of your “God” and that's all. Why do we have to die to see God, why can’t we see him now?
God only exists in the minds of people who need him to give answers to questions they want to hear.
Why disrespect someone so viciously for their beliefs? Do you think this post makes you look better or worse in the eyes of your fellow man? Oh, I think you know. There is nothing good that can come out of being this angry and hateful toward a total stranger on the Internet just because you don't see the world like they do. Your post looks no different than the rantings of so many anti-white racists or tranny activists, angry at the world because it doesn't conform to your expectations. All the negative posts in the world aren't gonna help you in any way and certainly aren't going to change how many people believe in God or don't. An intelligent, well-balanced person would know this.
Ruth Gordon, Dennis Merwood is a troll. He trolls these threads and zeroes in on anyone who mentions prayer, faith, religion or god. The best thing to do with Dennis Merwood is just laugh at his comments. All in all he can be quite entertaining but to try and debate with him is a fruitless endeavor. You will note that he rarely posts a comment that doesn't involve berating or denigrating someone's religious beliefs.
@canker that trollyness is rampant on this forum.
Dennis Merwood detests me. I made the mistake once of mentioning my Christian faith and he glommed onto me like stink on poop. He still comes around and makes his lame arguments about how all religious people are nut jobs, deceived and stupid. I actually enjoy his comments. Arguing with him is better than going to the movies. Sometimes he has interesting thoughts but he always regresses back to name calling, insults and insinuations of stupidity. It's quite entertaining to engage him.
You are a lair, Cankerpuss.
I challenge you find one of my posts that "regresses back to name calling, insults and insinuations of stupidity.
But plenty of your posts do that to me.
LIAR
Sometimes it's just easier to be nasty than nice.
Asking folks to provide evidence for their claims is not disrespectful.
I am not angry, or being hateful
All I am doing is asking for evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Perhaps you can help me, Ruth?
Maybe you can prove to us that "God" ever said anything?
Or show us how "God" healed the land. What that even means?
An intelligent, well-balanced person like you should be able to do this.
Otherwise, all you are doing is showing you are willing to swallow any old codswallop.
"Got a link to that? LOL"
"Betcha can't"
"Too busy I suppose"
"Yeah, makes sense"
Totally respectful.
All religion is bullshit.
There have been some 3,000+ Gods.
You Ruth do not believe in 2,999+ of them.
You too my dear are an atheist wrt to all other Gods except Yahweh.
I just go one further.
Thin skinned much my dear?
"You're not allowed to judge but I am" - every religious person ever.
But you chose to attack, not them. They simply stated a belief and, unprovoked you went on a tirade you probably copy and paste a hundred times a day. You're pitiful.
He's a troll. Gets his jollies off of mocking people's beliefs.
At least he hasn't threatened to send his over-achieving daughters to beat you up yet.
haha yeah I figured so. Bullies always pull the same tactic. As soon as you corner them they try to claim they are just doing what you are doing even though they always start the trouble. Same tired old leftist tactics. Of all the windmills in the world to joust against, the belief of people who are the most peaceful and forgiving is so misplaced it smacks of mental illness. And I already know what the response to this will be so it's my last comment. I dare say this is the kind of person who wouldn't dare say these things to another man's face.
You called it, Ruth Gordon. He's so predictable.
Good job Ruth.
Attacking my character, but failing to address the subject of my comment.
A typical tired old religious nut job tactic.
You know my points are the truth and you have no counter arguments. The truth hurts you.
Thats why you deflect with all your kindergarten phycology trying to make out that I am the problem.
There truly is no hate quite like Christians Love! Religious folk prove every day that arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand.
Why Prophesy Isn't Actually "Proof of God" | The Atheist Experience:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUxGCHyMBjU
How can a thing be discussed when you can't define it?
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
No. Actually, "extraordinary" claims must clear the same evidentiary hurdles as "ordinary" claims. No more, no less. Can it be proven? Yes or no?
("Oh no Honey, this is Small Claims Court. You hafta take that on up ta Extraordinary Claims Court. Down da hall 'n' upstairs.")
Just because Carl Sagan said it doesn't make it right. Nor does quoting smart people make the quoter look smart (except maybe to the quoter).
Don't fall into the Dennis Merwood trap, Carolyn. You have been duly warned.
Yes BEWARE... you might have to provided EVIDENCE for your nonsense claims!
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