It would be nice to see the guilty swing from the gallows on the Washington Mall. However as history has shown that wish is optimism over reality. However for those with faith, Hell is open for all the scoundrels. FJB
It would be nice to see the guilty swing from the gallows on the Washington Mall. However as history has shown that wish is optimism over reality. However for those with faith, Hell is open for all the scoundrels. FJB
God? Ha. As I progress in age to my twilight years my wisdom has evolved. My faith in God isn't what it used to be in the days of my youth. Today I believe two things about God. 1; God created us and has long since died off. 2; God created us and then took off with its buddies to play eternal golf on a golf paradise world and doesn't give a flying f___ about its creations.
I don't deny there is or was a God. But I no longer have faith that God is intimately involved with humanity. Either way, we are boned. It is up to us to issue justice upon the evildoers and that will never happen.
Life has a way of stripping everything from us. In a certain way I agree. He has given us all free will to live and do as we wish. I won’t get into much here except to say He gets involved in our personal lives only as much as we let Him in but he will do His will. No matter your or my opinions. Our will isn’t the last word on anything
Cheryl, you piqued another thought when you mentioned "free will." I often wonder if God sits his throne and doesn't intervene in the affairs of humanity because he has given us free will. If he were to start tinkering around with humanity he would be taking away our free will. If God takes away our free will and forces, any of us, to do or behave a certain way, God has then abrogated his responsibility to guarantee free will. If God does this God becomes a liar and a liar loses the faith of his subjects.
Maybe God doesn't intervene because God CANNOT intervene. God is subject to his own laws. If God is subject to his own laws he is therefore, not as ALL POWERFUL as we thought he was.
Anyway, the musings of a tired old brain. I am a person of faith but religions of late have done nothing but confuse me.
"Yes, we have free will; we have no choice but to have it.’ - Christopher Hitchens. Think about it!
EVERYTHING happens according to God's PLAN Christians will say. But when SOMETHING tragic happens, the Christian says God gives us FREE WILL. The age-old trick of constantly moving the goalposts.
If God is willing to prevent evil, but not able then he is not omnipotent.
If he is able, but not willing then he is malevolent.
If he is both able and willing then whence cometh evil?
If he is neither able nor willing then why call him God?
Apologists in a nutshell: "God is incomprehensible, now listen very carefully while I tell you all about him." If what God does is above us, then why do we have all these believers speaking FOR God, or forever explaining him?
The Bible was written, revised and edited many times BY the religious FOR the religious. The last thing it is, is truthful, reliable, unbiased, impartial or a neutral source. Folks that belief the entirety of Bible are willing to sacrifice their humanity on the altar of a book that they can't even prove.
Christianity: The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.
If religion was kept in their churches and their heads, and that they didn't think they are superior to others, I'd be generally OK with that.
Well at the very basis of energy and matter, is the particle/ wave duality. We cannot understand this. Yet it is so. Your analysis of the logic of God's capabilities and motivations, is similar to this.
BTW I loaded the sheep on hay last night they still good to go thanks and, in a virtuous cycle, I also loaded the sheep guardian dogs on sheep last night.
Cheryl the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Take a deep breath and return to the place you were before. I know that you know that I am saying this in good faith because I want the best for you just as you want the best for yourself.
Once a bullshit artist, always a bullshit artist (FDR, that is).
I suspect that, like Maurice Sendak, that crook, FDR, ripped-off George MacDonald (MANY, including C.S.Lewis, Lewis Carroll, G.K. Chesterton, etc., drew inspiration from MacDonald).
Well before FDR, George MacDonald observed:
"The direst foe of courage is the fear itself, not the object of it; and the man who can overcome his own terror is a hero and more."
"I won’t get into much here except to say He gets involved in our personal lives only as much as we let Him in but he will do His will. No matter your or my opinions. Our will isn’t the last word on anything"
Do you see the internal contradiction in what you wrote? That your first sentence is your opinion which your second sentence nullifies? The mysterious Creator saw to it that the truth can only be known by the absence of contradiction.
Deists assert that God created the world and then left it to operate under natural laws. Deism emphasizes ethical conduct and rejects supernatural aspects of religion.
Furthermore, it is a philosophical position and rationalistic theology that rejects revelation as a source of divine knowledge.
Deism is just religious cooptation of reason-besed animism which acknowledges the obviousness of a Creator about which nothing can be known but whose example (Creation) can be followed, like you said, by hewing to Natural Law.
When a fast draw Sheriff and a Hanging Judge would clean up a Western town, typically the good people would respond by voting them out of office. The disease of "Nice" has taken deep root in our collective psyche and will be the death of us.
Totally agree!! Invite Josie Wales to conduct the purging. We’ve been too civil. Had our lives F by the pandemic and grifting and now a legal pardon ???
Joe Biden doesn't have that many years left. I'd be surprised if he lasted for the next four. Any takers on how long Hunter's going to last? I'm thinking too many loose ends and liability.
It would be nice to see the guilty swing from the gallows on the Washington Mall. However as history has shown that wish is optimism over reality. However for those with faith, Hell is open for all the scoundrels. FJB
100 likes let’s send them there but let God ( whom they rebel against and despise) sort them out.
God? Ha. As I progress in age to my twilight years my wisdom has evolved. My faith in God isn't what it used to be in the days of my youth. Today I believe two things about God. 1; God created us and has long since died off. 2; God created us and then took off with its buddies to play eternal golf on a golf paradise world and doesn't give a flying f___ about its creations.
I don't deny there is or was a God. But I no longer have faith that God is intimately involved with humanity. Either way, we are boned. It is up to us to issue justice upon the evildoers and that will never happen.
Life has a way of stripping everything from us. In a certain way I agree. He has given us all free will to live and do as we wish. I won’t get into much here except to say He gets involved in our personal lives only as much as we let Him in but he will do His will. No matter your or my opinions. Our will isn’t the last word on anything
Cheryl, you piqued another thought when you mentioned "free will." I often wonder if God sits his throne and doesn't intervene in the affairs of humanity because he has given us free will. If he were to start tinkering around with humanity he would be taking away our free will. If God takes away our free will and forces, any of us, to do or behave a certain way, God has then abrogated his responsibility to guarantee free will. If God does this God becomes a liar and a liar loses the faith of his subjects.
Maybe God doesn't intervene because God CANNOT intervene. God is subject to his own laws. If God is subject to his own laws he is therefore, not as ALL POWERFUL as we thought he was.
Anyway, the musings of a tired old brain. I am a person of faith but religions of late have done nothing but confuse me.
"Yes, we have free will; we have no choice but to have it.’ - Christopher Hitchens. Think about it!
EVERYTHING happens according to God's PLAN Christians will say. But when SOMETHING tragic happens, the Christian says God gives us FREE WILL. The age-old trick of constantly moving the goalposts.
If God is willing to prevent evil, but not able then he is not omnipotent.
If he is able, but not willing then he is malevolent.
If he is both able and willing then whence cometh evil?
If he is neither able nor willing then why call him God?
Apologists in a nutshell: "God is incomprehensible, now listen very carefully while I tell you all about him." If what God does is above us, then why do we have all these believers speaking FOR God, or forever explaining him?
The Bible was written, revised and edited many times BY the religious FOR the religious. The last thing it is, is truthful, reliable, unbiased, impartial or a neutral source. Folks that belief the entirety of Bible are willing to sacrifice their humanity on the altar of a book that they can't even prove.
Christianity: The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.
If religion was kept in their churches and their heads, and that they didn't think they are superior to others, I'd be generally OK with that.
You, sir, are a thinker and I like it.
Thank you. You too!
And let me say that both of you are pretty neat.
If a parent is willing to prevent a child from hurting themselves when learning to walk or ride a bike, but is unable, then they are not omnipotent.
If able but unwilling, they are malicious, right?
Thus you are refuted, etc.
Well at the very basis of energy and matter, is the particle/ wave duality. We cannot understand this. Yet it is so. Your analysis of the logic of God's capabilities and motivations, is similar to this.
+1 :9
The Flying Spaghetti Monster, the ONE and ONLY true GOD, will sort them out, Cheryl.
I must have spoken a truth that woke the demons.
On the contrary, Cheryl. WADR.
I’m assuming WADR means “what are demons really?” Course I could be wrong I generally am. Don’t you have some sheep to tend?
BTW I loaded the sheep on hay last night they still good to go thanks and, in a virtuous cycle, I also loaded the sheep guardian dogs on sheep last night.
Virtuous cycle.
I’m glad. That will free you up, I’m assuming, for a few more hours anyway.
Thank you, yeah, got it on cruise control at the moment.
Cheryl the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Take a deep breath and return to the place you were before. I know that you know that I am saying this in good faith because I want the best for you just as you want the best for yourself.
Once a bullshit artist, always a bullshit artist (FDR, that is).
I suspect that, like Maurice Sendak, that crook, FDR, ripped-off George MacDonald (MANY, including C.S.Lewis, Lewis Carroll, G.K. Chesterton, etc., drew inspiration from MacDonald).
Well before FDR, George MacDonald observed:
"The direst foe of courage is the fear itself, not the object of it; and the man who can overcome his own terror is a hero and more."
What exactly is the bullshit that you're identifying? FDR's cooptation of that truism in service of his bs politics?
"I won’t get into much here except to say He gets involved in our personal lives only as much as we let Him in but he will do His will. No matter your or my opinions. Our will isn’t the last word on anything"
Do you see the internal contradiction in what you wrote? That your first sentence is your opinion which your second sentence nullifies? The mysterious Creator saw to it that the truth can only be known by the absence of contradiction.
“Do you see the internal contradiction in what you wrote?” Of course I did and do Ben. You’re pretty easy.
This is your original, honest, much appreciated reply that landed in my inbox before you went into Shadow and edited it to suit your Shadow's persona:
“Do you see the internal contradiction in what you wrote?” I didn’t realize Ben. Thanks for pointing it out
Actually, I came out of shadow.
Me too.
Sure was until I gave it some real thought do you want a gold star?
What exactly was the realness of thought. I challenge you to back up that claim, sister.
I’m going to make a turkey pot pie now. Let me think about it so I don’t have to edit my post over and over. Brother.
Appreciate you.
"Life has a way of stripping everything from us."
"While I thought I had been learning how to live, I have been learning how to die."
~Leonardo da Vinci
@Cankerpuss
What God wants, God gets.
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God wants sedition
God wants sex
God wants freedom
God wants Semtex
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https://youtu.be/YRWRRBX3TB0?si=vfz3DgNcuuOYCRrw
The best album Roger ever made. That and pros and cons of hitchhiking.
Deists assert that God created the world and then left it to operate under natural laws. Deism emphasizes ethical conduct and rejects supernatural aspects of religion.
Furthermore, it is a philosophical position and rationalistic theology that rejects revelation as a source of divine knowledge.
I grew up a Christian. Perhaps I have evolved into more a Deist than a Christian.
Deism is just religious cooptation of reason-besed animism which acknowledges the obviousness of a Creator about which nothing can be known but whose example (Creation) can be followed, like you said, by hewing to Natural Law.
Get out of your head. It’s dark in there. Now, I’m done
That the best you got my dear? LOL
It’s all I got. Buh bye
Spoken like one who knows nothing about what they are talking about.
Surly you are a biblical scholar..
Thanks for settling the whole issue for us.
🫏
By the way Zarathustra is obviously Jesus
Read the bible; God disappears more and more as it proceeds... it's up to us to call him back
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/430976.The_Disappearance_of_God
Cankerpuss, that belief system is Deism, similar to what T.Jefferson espoused. Perpetual golf? YEAH!
When a fast draw Sheriff and a Hanging Judge would clean up a Western town, typically the good people would respond by voting them out of office. The disease of "Nice" has taken deep root in our collective psyche and will be the death of us.
+1
Michael Yon has issues but, starting at 36:01 he says the same thing:
https://rumble.com/v5cfx3h-michael-yon-joins-maria-zeee-we-must-prepare-for-the-worst.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Totally agree!! Invite Josie Wales to conduct the purging. We’ve been too civil. Had our lives F by the pandemic and grifting and now a legal pardon ???
I don’t think this is the way it ought to end.
Joe Biden doesn't have that many years left. I'd be surprised if he lasted for the next four. Any takers on how long Hunter's going to last? I'm thinking too many loose ends and liability.
It might go down as a relapse. They'll find more dope in him than the cocaine bear.
I'm thinking he'll get some coke that's laced with fentanyl and that'll be all she wrote.