The curse of being born in the wrong century... *sigh...*
Philadelphia, 1787
"The Chair recognizes the scofflaw from Michigan..."
("Michigan? Is there such a place?" "I think it's somewhere in Penn's Sylvania..." "No it's not, it's in Can-tuck-ee." "Who let that guy in here?!")
"Mr. Madison, assembled grandees, I fear that if we schedule regular elections, and allow people to run for office, we will undoubtedly see the formation of political parties - a circumstance all of us wish to avoid, if I understand correctly.
"Regularly scheduled elections - particularly for the Chief Executive - will become drawn-out circuses lasting a year or more, preventing the government from accomplishing anything, and leaving the candidates beholden to their financiers.
"First, let's agree there will be no "universal suffrage". Most people - especially in the future - don't have the intelligence to manage their own affairs, let alone make decisions for a nation. Of course we won't interfere with them as they fuck up their own lives. We just fought a brutal war to guarantee the right to be wrong.
"Second, electors will have to pass a test - before each election. We get old or lazy and forget stuff. That's fine, just stay away from the voting booth when that happens. And forget your elitist property ownership qualification. In the future owning property will be the domain of only the super rich - like you guys. No, this test will test your knowledge of our political system, as well as assess your overall intelligence.
"The electors of a township (for example) will choose who will be the government of the township. This would most likely be another elector from the township - but not necessarily. (Yes, I'm thinking kinda Holy Roman Empire style here.) Of course said representative has to be a US citizen, and an elector somewhere. If said official is a disappointment, the electors will vote on whether to replace him. And if they vote in favor, once again they will choose a representative.
"Electors from the townships within the county choose who will be county government. And it scales up from there. Counties to state. State to Federal.
"No regularly scheduled elections. No candidates. No political parties. Whaddya think?"
Madison: "Maybe we made a mistake. Pickering, get on the phone with Billy Pitt. Let's see if Old Blighty will have us back."
Erdogan said Democracy is a bus. You get off at your stop. We now have the Elector of Hanover in office. No need for more elections until he passes - unless he passes it on to Don Jr. Then we're set!
Stop being so ideologically serious. I was just jesting. All lies in jest as Simon and Garfunkel said.
I've already admitted your system is the best in terms of how to vote. Perhaps we need a Peace King and a War King or Presidents if you like. A bit of Fascism must be there if your Republic would last. No elections for the duration of the War or Crisis.
Trying to flip the table on me Jars? I'd expect no less...
No Peace King/War King duality. When I'm runnin' this shit show - errr, I mean once the electoral system I have described is in-place and moral, qualified folks are running the show - war will go extinct. Hopefully I - I mean they - won't have to kill too many people to keep the peace...
Fascism? Like the government saying to corporations, "No, you can't do stupid shit like that" - like offshoring industry to increase profits, selling advanced technology to competitors, etc? Hell yeah. Martial and imperial? You're pissin' up the wrong tree buddy.
The curse of being born in the wrong century... *sigh...*
Philadelphia, 1787
"The Chair recognizes the scofflaw from Michigan..."
("Michigan? Is there such a place?" "I think it's somewhere in Penn's Sylvania..." "No it's not, it's in Can-tuck-ee." "Who let that guy in here?!")
"Mr. Madison, assembled grandees, I fear that if we schedule regular elections, and allow people to run for office, we will undoubtedly see the formation of political parties - a circumstance all of us wish to avoid, if I understand correctly.
"Regularly scheduled elections - particularly for the Chief Executive - will become drawn-out circuses lasting a year or more, preventing the government from accomplishing anything, and leaving the candidates beholden to their financiers.
"First, let's agree there will be no "universal suffrage". Most people - especially in the future - don't have the intelligence to manage their own affairs, let alone make decisions for a nation. Of course we won't interfere with them as they fuck up their own lives. We just fought a brutal war to guarantee the right to be wrong.
"Second, electors will have to pass a test - before each election. We get old or lazy and forget stuff. That's fine, just stay away from the voting booth when that happens. And forget your elitist property ownership qualification. In the future owning property will be the domain of only the super rich - like you guys. No, this test will test your knowledge of our political system, as well as assess your overall intelligence.
"The electors of a township (for example) will choose who will be the government of the township. This would most likely be another elector from the township - but not necessarily. (Yes, I'm thinking kinda Holy Roman Empire style here.) Of course said representative has to be a US citizen, and an elector somewhere. If said official is a disappointment, the electors will vote on whether to replace him. And if they vote in favor, once again they will choose a representative.
"Electors from the townships within the county choose who will be county government. And it scales up from there. Counties to state. State to Federal.
"No regularly scheduled elections. No candidates. No political parties. Whaddya think?"
Madison: "Maybe we made a mistake. Pickering, get on the phone with Billy Pitt. Let's see if Old Blighty will have us back."
Erdogan said Democracy is a bus. You get off at your stop. We now have the Elector of Hanover in office. No need for more elections until he passes - unless he passes it on to Don Jr. Then we're set!
Well Jars, you just flunked the electoral test. And I thought you'd pass on the first try...
Stop being so ideologically serious. I was just jesting. All lies in jest as Simon and Garfunkel said.
I've already admitted your system is the best in terms of how to vote. Perhaps we need a Peace King and a War King or Presidents if you like. A bit of Fascism must be there if your Republic would last. No elections for the duration of the War or Crisis.
Trying to flip the table on me Jars? I'd expect no less...
No Peace King/War King duality. When I'm runnin' this shit show - errr, I mean once the electoral system I have described is in-place and moral, qualified folks are running the show - war will go extinct. Hopefully I - I mean they - won't have to kill too many people to keep the peace...
Fascism? Like the government saying to corporations, "No, you can't do stupid shit like that" - like offshoring industry to increase profits, selling advanced technology to competitors, etc? Hell yeah. Martial and imperial? You're pissin' up the wrong tree buddy.