You're being ridiculous. Just as Socrates showed how much an uneducated slave boy knew, I could show you how much you believe in the Truth if I could just get you to answer honestly.
A dog looks for its master. It comes to a triple fork in the road. It sniffs our the first two, nothing. Then it just goes down the third without sniffing. T…
You're being ridiculous. Just as Socrates showed how much an uneducated slave boy knew, I could show you how much you believe in the Truth if I could just get you to answer honestly.
A dog looks for its master. It comes to a triple fork in the road. It sniffs our the first two, nothing. Then it just goes down the third without sniffing. The process of elimination. Elementary reasoning.
If the Abos want to get the straight story in a conflict, they separate the parties involved and torture them. Then they discuss the results to see commonalities. Cops do the same thing sans the torture in most cases.
I want to give you the benefit of the doubt for being as smart as the Abos, but you're fighting me every step of the way.
You deal in absolutes. I keep the absolutes to a minimum, and in my worldview has not been disappointed. To you, Jesus is an absolute, you suggest, but you continue to study fakirs and idolators...blue elephants, et al, seeking...what? Further beliefs to reinforce your believed absolute? Something that should require no further quest?
Maybe you have been degraded by the use of the marijuanas you have suggested I try.
Yes, as Blake said, Eternity is in love with the productions of time. So am I.
The Truth is something to be "realized" not just believed. Philosophy and religion must become one in the life of the seeker.
You live in your abstractions. A Sabertooth is a "Sabertooth". A lathe is not just a metal table, but a "lathe". Etc. They work, thus they have "cash value" as William James said.
If a cat jumps on a hot stove, it will never jump on a stove again? No, because the cat doesn't have that abstraction. It will never jump up "there" (on that stove again). The cat has the abstraction, "dog". They are born afraid of dogs, but will make an exception for dogs they are familiar with in some cases.
Realized not just believed? I prefer "internalized".
Philosophy and religion? What can be more pure truth, a personal truth, than realizing that which you do not know? That you might suspect, or believe is arguable. You are disingenuous to tell someone you KNOW of an event not part of your direct experience? Something you read in a book, or something drilled into you at catechism?
I think, perhaps, that which I believe to some extent is voluminous. That which I KNOW is very little by comparison.
Wm. Blake, I would invite to kiss my big black ass. Blake was a Dissenter, and I would prefer quotes of a more secular viewpoint. They were still burning witches when Blake was in the church.
You KNOW that cats are born afraid of dogs? How do you KNOW that? Are they really born afraid of dogs? Who knows? Maybe. Maybe it is a learned trait. Maybe they compete for the same resources. Maybe Sheer mass has something to do with it. Maybe it is a game.
Yes, much of what we know is relative, partial, through a glass darkly. But before you were claiming it all was. You weren't just agnostic about ultimate reality, you were an atheist about our common everyday reality. In which case, it would be pointless for anyone to ever say anything to anyone since we would have no common ground.
We pulled you in from the brink and now you have backtracked back to some degree of sanity. Thus the utility of the philosophical method is revealed.
You're being ridiculous. Just as Socrates showed how much an uneducated slave boy knew, I could show you how much you believe in the Truth if I could just get you to answer honestly.
A dog looks for its master. It comes to a triple fork in the road. It sniffs our the first two, nothing. Then it just goes down the third without sniffing. The process of elimination. Elementary reasoning.
If the Abos want to get the straight story in a conflict, they separate the parties involved and torture them. Then they discuss the results to see commonalities. Cops do the same thing sans the torture in most cases.
I want to give you the benefit of the doubt for being as smart as the Abos, but you're fighting me every step of the way.
Lugh,
You deal in absolutes. I keep the absolutes to a minimum, and in my worldview has not been disappointed. To you, Jesus is an absolute, you suggest, but you continue to study fakirs and idolators...blue elephants, et al, seeking...what? Further beliefs to reinforce your believed absolute? Something that should require no further quest?
Maybe you have been degraded by the use of the marijuanas you have suggested I try.
Agnosticism...so easy an Abo can do it....
Yes, as Blake said, Eternity is in love with the productions of time. So am I.
The Truth is something to be "realized" not just believed. Philosophy and religion must become one in the life of the seeker.
You live in your abstractions. A Sabertooth is a "Sabertooth". A lathe is not just a metal table, but a "lathe". Etc. They work, thus they have "cash value" as William James said.
If a cat jumps on a hot stove, it will never jump on a stove again? No, because the cat doesn't have that abstraction. It will never jump up "there" (on that stove again). The cat has the abstraction, "dog". They are born afraid of dogs, but will make an exception for dogs they are familiar with in some cases.
Lugh,
Realized not just believed? I prefer "internalized".
Philosophy and religion? What can be more pure truth, a personal truth, than realizing that which you do not know? That you might suspect, or believe is arguable. You are disingenuous to tell someone you KNOW of an event not part of your direct experience? Something you read in a book, or something drilled into you at catechism?
I think, perhaps, that which I believe to some extent is voluminous. That which I KNOW is very little by comparison.
Wm. Blake, I would invite to kiss my big black ass. Blake was a Dissenter, and I would prefer quotes of a more secular viewpoint. They were still burning witches when Blake was in the church.
You KNOW that cats are born afraid of dogs? How do you KNOW that? Are they really born afraid of dogs? Who knows? Maybe. Maybe it is a learned trait. Maybe they compete for the same resources. Maybe Sheer mass has something to do with it. Maybe it is a game.
Yes, much of what we know is relative, partial, through a glass darkly. But before you were claiming it all was. You weren't just agnostic about ultimate reality, you were an atheist about our common everyday reality. In which case, it would be pointless for anyone to ever say anything to anyone since we would have no common ground.
We pulled you in from the brink and now you have backtracked back to some degree of sanity. Thus the utility of the philosophical method is revealed.
Another successful cure, partial but substantial.
Cured at last! Cured at last! Thank God Almighty, I'm cured at last!