Yes, pneumocystis pneumonia was it. Thank you. That and Kaposi's sarcoma were the early diseases that were shocking to doctors in younger men. I don't think I heard about the Hep B vaccine though I have heard of the book but not familiar with it. There have been other hypotheses put out there as alternatives, beyond the more obvious extr…
Yes, pneumocystis pneumonia was it. Thank you. That and Kaposi's sarcoma were the early diseases that were shocking to doctors in younger men. I don't think I heard about the Hep B vaccine though I have heard of the book but not familiar with it. There have been other hypotheses put out there as alternatives, beyond the more obvious extreme early cases, and one which comes to mind is the idea of funneling the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome cases under the AIDS umbrella as well because the growing issue of CFS was basically being ignored and/or dismissed as a psychological issue wherein the institutional establishment was essentially telling everyone there was nothing really wrong with them physically and it was all in their heads. Similar to their later tactics to a lot of vaccine injuries which was on steroids with the covid shots due to massive pressures to deny any wrong with those shots.
I believe a good case can be made for the CFS hypothesis in terms of immune deficiency and signs of auto-immune disorders that likely had varying causes regarding toxicity whatever the sources. That is after the initial wave and probably the latter half of the 80s. Certainly AZT killed a lot of people and I believe "Dallas Buyers Club" is largely about this in terms of gay men getting access to medications from Mexico that were being suppressed and denied in the U.S.
I completely disagree, however, that drugs and promiscuousness had little to do with what became labelled AIDS. First, keep in mind that AIDS is just a label, a "syndrome" that was initially attributed to something unknown until the magic virus was "discovered" by Gallo. It was initially pretty limited to those severe types of cases in young gay men and really wasn't a term referring to a large umbrella of issues until they needed to drum up new "AIDS" cases by adding a bunch of new diseases in a couple of different waves which wound up being, what?, 20-25 so-called diseases "caused" by HIV? By the time they were doing this it was all scare tactics and propaganda to boost the gravy train of the HIV=AIDS scam that was just beginning to drum up massive profits for the expensive therapeutics. The issue of extreme promiscuity isn't really about contagion through the acts of anal sex so much as it was about the contracting of STDs on a continual basis so that the men contracting an STD kept going on and off antibiotics, destroying their microbiome, continuing to party and take the drugs, with the poppers being the key factor for pneumocystis pneumonia, getting an STD again, going back on antibiotics, and so on until they had totally trashed their immune systems when they were still in their 20s. These men put the indulgences of 70s rock 'n' roll bands and their groupie parties to shame. So yes, that was primarily the early years and with awareness within the communities in the cities behaviors changed and it tapered off, but this was undoubtedly an important factor.
I think I did mention "House of Numbers" so if you haven't seen that I'd highly recommend it. Good doc. and they do touch on this issue.
Yes, pneumocystis pneumonia was it. Thank you. That and Kaposi's sarcoma were the early diseases that were shocking to doctors in younger men. I don't think I heard about the Hep B vaccine though I have heard of the book but not familiar with it. There have been other hypotheses put out there as alternatives, beyond the more obvious extreme early cases, and one which comes to mind is the idea of funneling the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome cases under the AIDS umbrella as well because the growing issue of CFS was basically being ignored and/or dismissed as a psychological issue wherein the institutional establishment was essentially telling everyone there was nothing really wrong with them physically and it was all in their heads. Similar to their later tactics to a lot of vaccine injuries which was on steroids with the covid shots due to massive pressures to deny any wrong with those shots.
I believe a good case can be made for the CFS hypothesis in terms of immune deficiency and signs of auto-immune disorders that likely had varying causes regarding toxicity whatever the sources. That is after the initial wave and probably the latter half of the 80s. Certainly AZT killed a lot of people and I believe "Dallas Buyers Club" is largely about this in terms of gay men getting access to medications from Mexico that were being suppressed and denied in the U.S.
I completely disagree, however, that drugs and promiscuousness had little to do with what became labelled AIDS. First, keep in mind that AIDS is just a label, a "syndrome" that was initially attributed to something unknown until the magic virus was "discovered" by Gallo. It was initially pretty limited to those severe types of cases in young gay men and really wasn't a term referring to a large umbrella of issues until they needed to drum up new "AIDS" cases by adding a bunch of new diseases in a couple of different waves which wound up being, what?, 20-25 so-called diseases "caused" by HIV? By the time they were doing this it was all scare tactics and propaganda to boost the gravy train of the HIV=AIDS scam that was just beginning to drum up massive profits for the expensive therapeutics. The issue of extreme promiscuity isn't really about contagion through the acts of anal sex so much as it was about the contracting of STDs on a continual basis so that the men contracting an STD kept going on and off antibiotics, destroying their microbiome, continuing to party and take the drugs, with the poppers being the key factor for pneumocystis pneumonia, getting an STD again, going back on antibiotics, and so on until they had totally trashed their immune systems when they were still in their 20s. These men put the indulgences of 70s rock 'n' roll bands and their groupie parties to shame. So yes, that was primarily the early years and with awareness within the communities in the cities behaviors changed and it tapered off, but this was undoubtedly an important factor.
I think I did mention "House of Numbers" so if you haven't seen that I'd highly recommend it. Good doc. and they do touch on this issue.