The other disease common in AIDS is probably pneumocystis carinii pneumonia and was probably the major cause of death for those suffering from the disease. I first learned of the experimental Hepatitis B vaccine a few months ago when, in a related post, someone posted a video of Dr. Alan Cantwell and a link to his book "AIDS and the Doct…
The other disease common in AIDS is probably pneumocystis carinii pneumonia and was probably the major cause of death for those suffering from the disease. I first learned of the experimental Hepatitis B vaccine a few months ago when, in a related post, someone posted a video of Dr. Alan Cantwell and a link to his book "AIDS and the Doctors of Death". Dr. Cantwell was a dermatologist who had a special interest in Kaposi's sarcoma and was a lifelong member of the gay community in New York and Los Angeles. As a doctor and a gay man, he was well aware of what was going on in the gay communities in large urban cities and can speak with more knowledge and experience about it. His book was written in 1988 so it doesn't incorporate any further knowledge learned after that time. He has an entire chapter on the politics of AIDS.
In my opinion, the drugs and promiscuous sex had little or nothing to do with AIDS. It didn't explain the peculiar timing of the outbreak or the subsequent course of the disease over time. All those activities were going on both before and afterwards. Perhaps not with the intensity of the practices during the peak but it still is not a very satisfactory hypothesis. But the time course fits very well with the large outbreak coming soon after the introduction of the experimental vaccine in that very thin slice of the population that were selected to test the vaccine. Probably the later cases were largely due to AZT which was commonly prescribed and also available through black market sources in the gay community. As you are probably aware, AZT was developed in the 1960s as a drug to treat cancer and was taken off the market when it became evident that the toxicity to the bone marrow killed the experimental animals.
Yes, pneumocystis pneumonia was it. Thank you. That and Kaposi's sarcoma were the early diseases that were shocking to doctors in younger men. I don't think I heard about the Hep B vaccine though I have heard of the book but not familiar with it. There have been other hypotheses put out there as alternatives, beyond the more obvious extreme early cases, and one which comes to mind is the idea of funneling the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome cases under the AIDS umbrella as well because the growing issue of CFS was basically being ignored and/or dismissed as a psychological issue wherein the institutional establishment was essentially telling everyone there was nothing really wrong with them physically and it was all in their heads. Similar to their later tactics to a lot of vaccine injuries which was on steroids with the covid shots due to massive pressures to deny any wrong with those shots.
I believe a good case can be made for the CFS hypothesis in terms of immune deficiency and signs of auto-immune disorders that likely had varying causes regarding toxicity whatever the sources. That is after the initial wave and probably the latter half of the 80s. Certainly AZT killed a lot of people and I believe "Dallas Buyers Club" is largely about this in terms of gay men getting access to medications from Mexico that were being suppressed and denied in the U.S.
I completely disagree, however, that drugs and promiscuousness had little to do with what became labelled AIDS. First, keep in mind that AIDS is just a label, a "syndrome" that was initially attributed to something unknown until the magic virus was "discovered" by Gallo. It was initially pretty limited to those severe types of cases in young gay men and really wasn't a term referring to a large umbrella of issues until they needed to drum up new "AIDS" cases by adding a bunch of new diseases in a couple of different waves which wound up being, what?, 20-25 so-called diseases "caused" by HIV? By the time they were doing this it was all scare tactics and propaganda to boost the gravy train of the HIV=AIDS scam that was just beginning to drum up massive profits for the expensive therapeutics. The issue of extreme promiscuity isn't really about contagion through the acts of anal sex so much as it was about the contracting of STDs on a continual basis so that the men contracting an STD kept going on and off antibiotics, destroying their microbiome, continuing to party and take the drugs, with the poppers being the key factor for pneumocystis pneumonia, getting an STD again, going back on antibiotics, and so on until they had totally trashed their immune systems when they were still in their 20s. These men put the indulgences of 70s rock 'n' roll bands and their groupie parties to shame. So yes, that was primarily the early years and with awareness within the communities in the cities behaviors changed and it tapered off, but this was undoubtedly an important factor.
I think I did mention "House of Numbers" so if you haven't seen that I'd highly recommend it. Good doc. and they do touch on this issue.
The other disease common in AIDS is probably pneumocystis carinii pneumonia and was probably the major cause of death for those suffering from the disease. I first learned of the experimental Hepatitis B vaccine a few months ago when, in a related post, someone posted a video of Dr. Alan Cantwell and a link to his book "AIDS and the Doctors of Death". Dr. Cantwell was a dermatologist who had a special interest in Kaposi's sarcoma and was a lifelong member of the gay community in New York and Los Angeles. As a doctor and a gay man, he was well aware of what was going on in the gay communities in large urban cities and can speak with more knowledge and experience about it. His book was written in 1988 so it doesn't incorporate any further knowledge learned after that time. He has an entire chapter on the politics of AIDS.
In my opinion, the drugs and promiscuous sex had little or nothing to do with AIDS. It didn't explain the peculiar timing of the outbreak or the subsequent course of the disease over time. All those activities were going on both before and afterwards. Perhaps not with the intensity of the practices during the peak but it still is not a very satisfactory hypothesis. But the time course fits very well with the large outbreak coming soon after the introduction of the experimental vaccine in that very thin slice of the population that were selected to test the vaccine. Probably the later cases were largely due to AZT which was commonly prescribed and also available through black market sources in the gay community. As you are probably aware, AZT was developed in the 1960s as a drug to treat cancer and was taken off the market when it became evident that the toxicity to the bone marrow killed the experimental animals.
AZT was used in the first cocktails to treat AIDS. It is still prescribed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zidovudine
Yes, pneumocystis pneumonia was it. Thank you. That and Kaposi's sarcoma were the early diseases that were shocking to doctors in younger men. I don't think I heard about the Hep B vaccine though I have heard of the book but not familiar with it. There have been other hypotheses put out there as alternatives, beyond the more obvious extreme early cases, and one which comes to mind is the idea of funneling the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome cases under the AIDS umbrella as well because the growing issue of CFS was basically being ignored and/or dismissed as a psychological issue wherein the institutional establishment was essentially telling everyone there was nothing really wrong with them physically and it was all in their heads. Similar to their later tactics to a lot of vaccine injuries which was on steroids with the covid shots due to massive pressures to deny any wrong with those shots.
I believe a good case can be made for the CFS hypothesis in terms of immune deficiency and signs of auto-immune disorders that likely had varying causes regarding toxicity whatever the sources. That is after the initial wave and probably the latter half of the 80s. Certainly AZT killed a lot of people and I believe "Dallas Buyers Club" is largely about this in terms of gay men getting access to medications from Mexico that were being suppressed and denied in the U.S.
I completely disagree, however, that drugs and promiscuousness had little to do with what became labelled AIDS. First, keep in mind that AIDS is just a label, a "syndrome" that was initially attributed to something unknown until the magic virus was "discovered" by Gallo. It was initially pretty limited to those severe types of cases in young gay men and really wasn't a term referring to a large umbrella of issues until they needed to drum up new "AIDS" cases by adding a bunch of new diseases in a couple of different waves which wound up being, what?, 20-25 so-called diseases "caused" by HIV? By the time they were doing this it was all scare tactics and propaganda to boost the gravy train of the HIV=AIDS scam that was just beginning to drum up massive profits for the expensive therapeutics. The issue of extreme promiscuity isn't really about contagion through the acts of anal sex so much as it was about the contracting of STDs on a continual basis so that the men contracting an STD kept going on and off antibiotics, destroying their microbiome, continuing to party and take the drugs, with the poppers being the key factor for pneumocystis pneumonia, getting an STD again, going back on antibiotics, and so on until they had totally trashed their immune systems when they were still in their 20s. These men put the indulgences of 70s rock 'n' roll bands and their groupie parties to shame. So yes, that was primarily the early years and with awareness within the communities in the cities behaviors changed and it tapered off, but this was undoubtedly an important factor.
I think I did mention "House of Numbers" so if you haven't seen that I'd highly recommend it. Good doc. and they do touch on this issue.