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Debra Birx must not be forgotten. She admitted to fraud in her book. As far as I know, Biden did not give her a pardon.

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I think Rochelle Walensky could be added to the list. She's very annoying too.

The lies and propaganda are certainly designed to maintain power and enrich the grifters - but another factor is that it has received little push back due to widespread cognitive dissonance. Many people in Western Civilization have their heads stuck in the sand because they cannot deal with reality. The reality that aspects of The Long Emergency are creeping into their lives, and beyond their control.

We're in for a rocky ride until more citizens step up, deal with the predicament emotionally, and move forward with adopting necessary mitigation measures. We can't all be rock stars, actors or video game coders.

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I wanted to offer a list of mostly unknown public health higher-ups.

Walensky is a given. . . Mandy Cohen too.

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Ah, I see. Well I certainly applaud your efforts at naming names, as there is an urgent need to restore law and order behind all this, and put the era of "where everything goes and nothing matters" behind us.

Thank you very much.

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Perhaps some of the involved Ft. Detrick people??

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Yes, this is what no one talks about, the true origin of the bioweapon. Our tax dollars at work!

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I am willing to bet the military is untouchable.

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I wouldn't bet on that. Previously unthinkable things have already happened, like the confirmation of Kennedy for HHS.

We have a lot of reason to hope that justice will finally be served.

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Oh my Patrick!! I thought you were level-headed & able to think critically! RFKjr. will be fine

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I don't know what you mean.

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You nailed it, PRT.

"We can't all be rock stars, actors or video game coders." ~ P. Robert Thorson

But this needs to change from the top down. They've been told they can be anything they want. A Furrie? Sure. Bring a litterbox to school? Sure.

The delusional, reality-optional thinking starts at the top, it's being taught.

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I had a discussion with a co-worker about furries and was told they are a rightwing fable.

I smiled and walked away.

Some people are too far gone, and this one openly wore the misappropriated rainbow flag on his apple watch.

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Good thing you walked away, here's why: I tell them, I can't hang around you anymore. Why not? There're too many people out there who want to shoot people like you, and I might get hit by accident.

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You could always just say that you were allergic to pet dander.

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True, but Beth, you know I'm a little more abrasive than that ;-)

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I'm betting you were the one to bring the furries up, though, right? The crazy right-wing "conservative" obsession with other people's sexuality is disturbing

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We wouldn't know or care about others' sexuality if they stopped flapping it in our faces.

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Shut up Troll Goldstein. You and Sasha should get together and take a seminar on Substack etiquette. Go away troll.

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Feb 17Edited

Furries are not a sexuality thing you dope and no he did.

Unless eww tmi from you.

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Robot polisherтАЩs

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Funny AF.

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And stop watching brainwashing television.

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Yeah! Get your brainwashing from Kunstler.com & Joe Rogan...

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Shut up Troll Goldstein. You're fired.

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Incoming ban for Majella what is this going to be number 20?

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Let us not forget that ubiquitous CCP agent and crisis actor extraordinaire Leana Wen.

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She came right out of USAID and intel.

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Plus, she had the gall not to endorse "Mr. Trump"'s brilliant, disruptive, out-of-the-box thinking on combatting COVID-19. She just sort of sat there looking incredulous when he said that a bright light would solve everything, or injecting bleach.

These science types. They think they're SO smart!

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That old "injecting bleach" trope? Really?

Proof the trolls are running out of material.

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It's a fallback position. Unfortunately, my sense is there are still many believers. One of the 'symptoms' is chronic TDS.

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Yeah, a man asked his medical advisors, could something be available to breathe in and control or kill the Covid virus? Actually, not a bad question.

How many know that a new approach is coming, a тАЬsealantтАЭ that will coat the nasal and pharyngeal passages and prevent the virus from invading cells?

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John,

The currently available proven and tested "sealants" for nasal eradication of SARS-V2 (aka Covid-19 aka Coronavirus aka Common Cold) are Zicam and Xlear both nasal sprays. Use early and use often in crowds.

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Thank you, and spread it around.

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Another more recent one which will eradicate spike proteins and a lot of other nasties is Chlorine Dioxide (ClO2) an oxidizing biocide which literally burns up the foreign bacteria/virus without affecting human tissue.

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Feb 18Edited

Interesting who knew ingestible bleach.

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Chlorine Dioxide (ClO2) is not bleach, but you knew that.

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I had never heard of the substance.

No, it's not bleach but it's like bleach see below.

Chlorine dioxide is a gas used in very small quantities to disinfect water. It is a disinfectant similar to bleach and is unsafe when used in large amounts.

Chlorine dioxide kills bacteria, viruses, and fungi. Very small amounts are used in public water treatment facilities. At high doses, it can damage red blood cells and the lining of the gastrointestinal (GI) tract.

Some people swish and spit mouthwash solutions containing small amounts of chlorine dioxide for bad breath, tooth plaque, and wound healing, but there is no good scientific evidence to support most of these uses. There is also no good evidence to support using chlorine dioxide for COVID-19.

The US FDA has warned consumers to avoid chlorine dioxide supplement products due to the risk for serious safety issues and death. These products often list another ingredient on the label called sodium chlorite and are marketed under names like Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), Master Mineral Solution, and Miracle Mineral Supplement.

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Thanks Ben,

I've heard of MMS etc, didn't know that was ClO2, but a lot of people use it.

As always common sense is the key. Would not pay too much attention to the FDA hysteria, we all know too much Hydrogen Dioxide can actually be fatal...

Like many alternative drugs CLO2 is not subject to any serious study due to career funding, so it won't be investigated by any mainstream medicals.

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Yup, bleach is NaClO2,.

Oxidized salt?

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They are unable to break out of their mental vapor lock and discuss an idea on its merit. They render themselves harmless thereby.

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I thought the accusation was that he told people to drink it.

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Not at all, Tony. I watched him say it on television. Or is this one of those things he clearly said on television that, in his mind, and the minds of those who regard him as something other than a fecal stain on American history, he didnтАЩt really say?

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Sure you did. And my mother was a cat.

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Re: Bleach and Fecal Stains. Little minds think on little matters.

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My mindтАЩs big enough to recognize тАЬMr. TrumpтАЭ as a catastrophe, darling. IтАЩm guessing yours is not.

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A majority of Americans don't see Trump as a catastrophe at all. They see him favorably. You should prepare yourself for more truth telling and revelations. It's going to keep coming; day after day, week after week, until only dishonest rubes will continue to spew falsehoods obvious to everyone.

The patriots are taking our country back. We will continue until the last ounce of treachery is squeezed out of the corrupt system that was. We're just getting started. This is a glorious time where decades will happen in weeks. Truly stunning and a good time to be alive.

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Post the relevant quote in context and then acknowledge that you are lying.

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Oh, and also, for accusing me of lying, have very unpleasant sex with yourself, pal.

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You got me, Patrick. Saw right through me. I feel soтАж.so exposed.

May I know what it is IтАЩm alleged to have lied about?

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You lied about Trump's claiming that people should inject bleach.

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An apology would be appropriate, Patrick. LetтАЩs just say IтАЩm not holding my breath. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE

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No, you should apologize because you still have not found any quote of Trump telling anyone to inject bleach.

What's the quote?

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I suppose thereтАЩs a way you could be even more of an idiot, Patrick, but I will admit that I am unable to imagine it. I think IтАЩm going to withdraw from our dialog now, as I might as well be talking to the recycling bin.

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You found no quote then.

Because there isn't one. You lied.

Maybe it would be more fair to say that you were naive to trust the comically corrupt corporate media.

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Here's the press conference - deny this now. Your apologies will be assumed as they're unlikely to be forthcoming, huh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE

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I deny it, because you cannot find a quote of Trump telling anyone to inject bleach.

What's the quote?

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And where did he say injecting bleach.

He didn't!

So not much there of use.

He did say disinfectant which could be colloidal silver, it could be a vinegar solution or ??

Only a crazy deranged idiot would infer bleach from that statement.

Thanks for the clip.

Colloidal silver was originally used to treat infections and wounds before antibiotics became available. It was also used to disinfect hospital equipment.

History

In 1891, surgeon B.C. Crede used colloidal silver to sterilize wounds.

From 1900 to the 1940s, colloidal silver was widely used.

In the early 20th century, antibiotics replaced colloidal silver as the preferred treatment for infections.

How it's used

Colloidal silver was applied topically to wounds, eyes, and nose.

It was also injected intravenously.

Safety and efficacy

There is no clinical evidence that colloidal silver can prevent or treat COVID-19.

The FDA does not allow commercialized colloidal silver to claim health benefits without scientific evidence.

There are inconsistencies in the production and properties of colloidal silver.

There are reports of unexpected side effects.

Yeah like turning people BLUE!

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At one point the only cure for Syphilis was getting dosed with mercury or death.

It might have cleared up the microscopic worms that caused the disease, but it also made people go crazy hence the term mad as a hatter since mercury was used in hat making at one time.

I would suggest many Democrat voters are still playing with mercury and that would explain much about their behavior and belief systems or they are suffering from neurosyphilis.

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Boy, you're really hung up on that description, aren't you?

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You are an excellent troll. Still bought into the тАЬcovid is gonna kill youтАЭ horseshit. тАЬThe vaccine is safe and effectiveтАЭ farce. If only we were all as smart as the democrat party trolls on the internet, what a wonderful world it would be.

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We have plenty of trolls on this forum.

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Trump never told anyone to inject bleach.

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Pretty obvious you actually didn't watch the clip or the voices in your head are saying things again.

You should get that checked out the cure for that might be some UV light shined around in your body or several massive penicillin shots.

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I watched the clip. Clearly, you didn't and CHOOSE to live in denial of actual facts.

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No, you didn't there was ZERO mention of bleach.

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Yeah, either that or I watched and heard with my own ears and eyes when he mused aloud in TV that it might be a great idea.

HeтАЩs just full of great ideas! Are you pretty impressed with his Gaza idea, E?

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What he talked about was POSSIBILITY of using light as disinfectant which is what someone else suggested, NOT him. He never said "bleach". Thank you for proving what an idiot you are. I'm done here with you, I prefer to talk to grownups and it's clear you're just here to harass people who want to actually get our country back on track. I've watched Trump closely for 45 yrs because I knew he would be president one day, I know far more about him than you do. Buzz off, kid, you're bothering the grownups.

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Snowflake...give it, can't take it. What a perfect example of "MAGAt masculinity"

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Again, you fail to post the supposed quote in context.

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Don't click on Troll Goldstein click bait. Go away troll.

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Thank you, I appreciate you posting that. I watched it & Trump never mentioned bleach, he talked about someone else's suggestion of using light as a disinfectant.

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It's true he didn't say "bleach" but he did muse on the possibility of 'injecting disinfectant". But the broader point is that this just shows what a fecking moron he is. This is press conference and he's having in public a discussion that is the sort of thing you ask or postulate in a committee setting. Birx couldn't stand up and say, publicly,"Sir, you're a fecking idiot." In a private setting she could have tried to communicate that to him, but he's a notorious non-listener anyway.

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the "disinfectant" was LIGHT. How can you possibly not understand that, it's very clear. You're not just twisting his words, you're making things up.

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Congrats you changed the parameters of the discussion to something at least coherent.

Wasn't that difficult now was it?

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Brilliant, disruptive out-of-the-box thinking?

TrumpтАЩs number one problem in adm #1 was he believed people in the Deep State that were out to тАЬgagтАЭ anything he wanted to do. IMHO, no, 1 on the list was the Pence team assigned to Covid by Trump. He trusted Pence to attend to the problem as he dealt with impeachments and running for president, and everything else. It was his biggest mistake, believing what he was told by Fauci, et al. Regarding the Vaxx. He was excited as heck when the team told him, тАЬNo sweat, problem solvedтАЭ. Lockdowns, segregation, arrows in stores, masks, all were products of Fauci et al and the following nest of vipers with Biden.

Thank goodness that some rationality continued, led by DeSantis to counter the idiots in NY.

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Exactly, John. It was someone elseтАЩs fault! ItтАЩs ALWAYS someone elseтАЩs fault. He picks the very, very, VERY best people, and how do they show their gratitude? By deceiving him! No president has ever been treated so unfairly!

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Democrats are blaming Trump for the fruition of Biden's policies.

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Like letting Elon Musk loose on the federal government? Like threatening various countries with tariffs that virtually every economist drawing breath agrees are going to be catastrophic? Are those the policies youтАЩre referring to? Like proposing that the Palestinians be compelled to leave their country so that Gaza can be made into the Riviera of the Middle East? Like threatening to take the Panama Canal and Greenland by force? Those policies?

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Like imposing tariffs on countries that have tariffs on American goods?

I can't see the harm on doing unto others.

As far as Palestinians have you not seen the entire area is turned to rubble and is full of possible unexploded ordinanace?

Sure, move all 1.5 million back in and then whine about how many die from unexploded ordinance and chemicals from the bombs that are left over not to mention whatever cocktail of fun Hamas left behind.

Won't go to deep a dive about how dangerous all the tunnels are or if the collapse and drag the unstable buildings down on top of people.

Yeah send them back in and 1.5 million might be down to a million win win for the world.

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Yeah, those polices which make no sense to the senseless.

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Poor stupid troll. Go back to your blue scape and boo hoo there

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Gosh, Carolyn, that really stung. I bet youтАЩre a world of fun at dinner parties.

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JohnтАж..you are an unadulterated ASS- hole! The childish retorts you spout are nothing to brag about! Shut-the-F-up!

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Could you please dig that sound bite up and if you do, I will dig up the full clip that has not been massaged so we can compare them.

The part about UV light was interesting as there really is a tech for shining uv light into parts of the body.

Cedars-Sinai Research Involving Five Critically Ill Patients is Encouraging and Warrants Further Investigation, Scientists Say

Ultraviolet light treatments introduced into the tracheas of five critically ill COVID-19 patients appeared to be safe and associated with a reduction in the respiratory load of SARS-CoV-2тАФthe virus responsible for COVID-19тАФin all but one patient, according to a study conducted by Cedars-Sinai.

The findings, published in the peer-reviewed journal Advances in Therapy, were based on five days of 20-minute treatments with ultraviolet A (UVA) light using a catheter inserted into the patients' tracheas. Patients were followed for 30 days. The findings were based on four patients; the fifth patient had no detectable levels of SARS-CoV-2 at the study outset.

The research indicated that the reduced viral loads appeared to be associated with improvement in the patients' clinical conditions as measured by a standard scale used by the World Health Organization. The investigators emphasized the preliminary nature of their research, noting that they did not demonstrate a causal link between the improvement in patient conditions and the reduced viral loads.

"Although our study suggested that ultraviolet A light may be useful in treating COVID-19, further investigation is needed to determine whether this approach can improve clinical outcomes," said Ali Rezaie, MD, FRCP(C), medical director of GI Motility at Cedars-Sinai and the study's corresponding author.

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Crickets...chirp chirp chirp.

I do realize many of those once easy to find clips are tombstoned.

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Not sure what you watched BUT there is NO mention of injecting bleach or ingesting bleach anywhere in that clip.

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exactly! that's the point.

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No Maria is a TDS afflicted lefty.

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Wow

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Well, is it them that self-worships or us that believes what they say?

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Remember too that we are supposed to believe the тАЬscienceтАЭ, right? The problem is that the тАЬscienceтАЭ is as divided as the politics. Could it be that scientists try to sell us on whatever side is funding them?

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Speaking of science, here is a little behavioral science.

MyersтАЩs-Briggs and gender

Women are 75% feelers, and 25% thinkers

Men are 43% feelers, and 57% thinkers.

Not surprising, but womenтАЩs intuition takes a hit with men and women both split between sensor and intuitive.

Trying to find a split between Dems and GOP regarding T and F.

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Ha, found it, here goes.

MyersтАЩs-Briggs types split again with descriptors.

Source Quora: Steve Jester Studies Industrial and Organizational Psychology

GUARDIANS - SJ, sensor judging

Conservatives, Protectors of the groups they are in, community, family duty and honor

Idealists - NF intuitive feeling

Liberals, believe in universal attributes for every person, high empathy, support what they think is best for all, not individualistic, everyone should be equal. They cannot comprehend that other people believe differently.

Rationalists - NT, intuitive thinkers

Libertarian, Do not believe in anything unless there is a reason for it, Skeptics, atheists, Do NOT believe e in government sayingтАЭ We will fix it.тАЭ

Artisans - SP, sensor perceivers

Pure Communists (my thought Progressives?) Experience life to the fullest, Everyone will have a great time enjoying and creating things for the common good, so no government needed. (My thought, UBI advocates?)

I chuckled as I read through these, as I recognize friends and commenters on the blog.

As for me, I tested long ago as an ESTJ.

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Info from website Personality Cafe

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Science is science, whatever you say, JohnAZ. Weren't you in the medical game>|? A Nurse or the like? Is 'germ theory' a 'science' in inverted commas?

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Oh, no, Marie, you misread me. I was a RN for 17 years and was "raised" a math and science type. six years Navy and 13 years MFG. engineer. I do believe in the logic of science BUT, today's "science" is corrupted by politics. The best example is AGW, another is the Vaxx. When the "scientists" are split, depending on which side is buttering their bread, it is not science.

Germ theory? When you can autopsy someone and find the bacteria in place that killed the patient, yes I can believe the germ was the cause and not just a correlation. Viruses? Remember Night Owl? He was convinced that viruses were a figment of the imagination because they could not isolate them without host tissue, like in a petrie dish. So Covid could not exist, or the flu or colds because there was no such thing as a virus. However, something leaked out of that lab in Wuhan, no matter what the Chinese say and it infected the world in very short order. Just because a group of over ambitious MDs and "scientists" used the situation to promote their mRNA technology does not make the rest of the continued science of anti-viral work useless.

AGW, the biggest con job in history, even bigger than Covid, but a little less deadly. VERY corrupted "scientists" armed with some very corrupted politicians made a lot of grant money pandering to a lot of nutty Leftists.

BTW, we have our own climate scientist on the blog. Marlin checks on the shore every so often to make sure we are not going to drown in the foreseeable future.

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You go mister!ЁЯСНЁЯСНЁЯСН

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It's one thing to regurgitate the latest inane TV talking points. But TV blather from more than 4 years ago?

You're obviously _not_ a paid troll - they're expected to keep up with the ever changing Narrative. And to be somewhat lifelike.

Perhaps you're a short Python script, written in 2020, attached to an early LLM?

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Yes. The short Python script. Someone finally noticed!

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Feb 18Edited

Please stop talking about your short python.

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A 9th circuit court judge has invalidated all of Biden's pardons.

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Shan, please elucidate. Did she write "I committed fraud" or (as is well known) did she explain that the political pressure from Trump et al was such that she had little option but to 'play along' and by NOT calling out his lies & bullshit, she thereby committed fraud - by omission?

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Did he pardon La Newland? I hear she has a big seat in the NED, which is also on the chopping block.

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