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JohnAZ's avatar

You are right about the pendulum. It is the swinging back and forth that has kept the country on a steady course on average. Until 1988. The Bush boys are as left as the Ult-Left folks today, war, open border, corrupt DOJ, all the things we discuss here. We have been steadily Left of center for 36 years, so is it no wonder that the Deep State, all factions, are so far Left. The RINO contingent ARE NOT conservative, they are neo-con, MIC, tax and spend, blatant Deep Staters that have joined the Far Left in their desire to create a socialistic nanny state. Planted squarely in front of this whole bloc are the MAGA folks, led by the Golden Golem. What we are witnessing going into this election is a ripping apart of the political country, leaving a Left Right orientation into a different alignment of parties. IMHO, two parties are emerging, one, MAGA, center right and two, the “Know Nothings” Far Left. It reflects the Leftward drift of the country for the 36 years. MAGA is center right as its leader was a Democrat at one time and has some of that old democrat dogma inside his head. The Deep State hates MAGA as its prime directive is to reduce the noose around the country that the nanny state wants to install. The RINOs are an integral part of the Deep State and also hate MAGA and its leader. However, a new breed has arisen, old fashioned moderate Democrats who still love the country as it is, without the nanny state. These folks are moving to the right to join MAGA as they do no want the Constitution re-written. Two parties are arising, center right and far left. The cause is the attempted installation of socialism and the nanny state by a Deep State desperate to ward off the attempted control of their power and bureaucracy by the upstarts in MAGA. It definitely could turn bloody.

Side bar. Know Nothings fit well as a descriptor because during the last four years, the Obama Left has rolled out every article of their dogma, passed it into DC with dictatorial EOs and we have witnessed its total failure in every way possible. That is why Harris is running as she is, she has absolutely nothing positive to run on. So instead, we get empty nothing promises Called the Opportunity Economy with absolutely no idea what that means. Warning: Opportunity Economy sounds like a whole bunch of fiat spending, welfare spending, war spending, Deep State expansion spending, immigrant spending, ignoring every economic law ever invented. The Know-Nothing Party. If America votes these nincompoops into control, the Ens Times of this country draws near, and all the dunderheads that vote for the nanny state are going to find out, it will not and cannot ever exist. 0 bucks.

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Vegan Shark's avatar

[Whispering in your ear, JohnAZ]

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Breck's avatar

" If America votes these nincompoops into control...".

Whoa there Pardner! These "nincompoops" weren't voted into control in 2020. They STILL won't be in 2024. The Big Difference may be the old dictum, "Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice, shame on you".

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Christine's avatar

Ahemmm...No, you've got it backwards. FYI...Fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me. (Should've learned not to get fooled again)

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IAN2364's avatar

John, I will suggest that your post, and the related discussions, need to take into account Dalio's ...

Relative Standing of Great Empires

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/C5612AQGpy_Er6e1IUw/article-inline_image-shrink_1000_1488/article-inline_image-shrink_1000_1488/0/1632403422433?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=TmI5ifiZS2ImFkfKWcjf4EoDxKukS7139CxQxpM3bk4

and the major factors that create great empires ...

The Archetypical Rise and Decline of an Empire by Determinant

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/C5612AQHFBE0wREnEtg/article-inline_image-shrink_1000_1488/article-inline_image-shrink_1000_1488/0/1632403585672?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=fiVMI-3wsmVZf5Yr7j1zc10HKV2-EOF-pwgMheUdTcI

Is it so difficult to imagine that there are less opportunities for a young person to "step into the adult world", than there were 30 years ago; and that 30 years ago, there were less opportunities than there were 60 years ago?

Sixty years ago, our parents had experienced tough times in their early years, and a War that transitioned the masses into the adult world. Schooling focused on teaching the 3 R's, and the trades. Few students were diagnosed and treated for a disability. The country was tooled-up as a result of the war. The US population was a bit over half of what it is today. America was positioned to benefit from the key currency status. And I would suggest that the majority of people our age lived through the "sweet spot".

Today, the obstacles are greater, and there are fewer legitimate opportunities (no, people like Kamala Harris should have more sense than to set themselves up for failure). I would argue that the money in politics, coupled with the existing format for life, has been a major detriment to the various determinants, and to label individuals as "Know Nothings" fails to recognize the cause, and is not productive.

Would an "Opportunity Economy" be beneficial at this point in time? Would major construction projects, and the associated economic activity, be beneficial for the citizens of the world? If presented with the opportunity, is there potential for some responsible individuals of lower-income households, and/or the migrant population, to set a leadership example that would help "Know Nothings" step into the adult world?

As you point out, politics is a major factor for our current predicament. So, we need to eliminate the nonsense, and correctly assess and address the problems. And, in this day and age, I don't think isolationism is a prudent solution.

I will vote for Trump in the hope that he will eliminate the nonsense, and perhaps as the cycle plays out, the problems will be correctly assessed and addressed.

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JohnAZ's avatar

The Know-Nothings were a party around Civil War 1 times that got that moniker because they did not have a clue what to do about the pending schism approaching. Sorta like today, hence the label.

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Lugh's avatar

The Know Nothings were against mass immigration. They were right. Everyone else was wrong. Their America was destroyed by the endless stream of Irish, Poles, and Italians.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

This makes zero sense, Jarek.

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Lugh's avatar

How not so?

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