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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Judgepocalypse Now

James Howard Kunstler, at the top of his game.

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John Mendelssohn's avatar

At the bottom of the barrel. BAM!

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Why are you here?

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

In the Bible, particularly in Romans 1:28, the phrase "God gave them over to a depraved mind" is used to describe a state where individuals, having rejected God, are left to their own sinful desires. This means their minds become unprincipled and irrational, leading them to pursue destructive and immoral actions.

This concept is part of a broader narrative in Romans 1:18-32, where Paul describes the consequences of rejecting God's truth and turning to idolatry and other forms of sin. The passage suggests that when people persistently ignore God and His moral standards, they are left to the consequences of their choices, which can include a mind that is no longer governed by logic or morality.

The phrase "gave them over" is often interpreted as a figurative expression of God's withdrawal of His restraints on human behavior, rather than a concrete action. This withdrawal results in individuals being more prone to engage in various forms of wickedness and evil.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Like Saul in the OT.

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Actually Kathy, I see it as a separation of the wheat and tares for the end of days harvest.

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Lugh's avatar

Many of the seemingly saved will worship the Antichrist in the rebuilt Temple.

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Yes, you are correct. In Revelation 3:16, Jesus Himself describes the church at Laodicea as "lukewarm", neither hot nor cold, and expresses His disgust with them, saying He is about to spit them out of His mouth.

This metaphor reflects the modern day Christian church's indifferent attitude towards God, which Jesus finds repulsive. The lukewarm state symbolizes a lack of genuine faith and zeal, leading to a spiritual condition that Jesus will not tolerate. The modern day Laodiceans are the "lukewarm Christians" who will be deceived by the "angel of light" into receiving the "mark of the beast" in order to buy and sell. AKA, "the great apostacy" of worshiping the "beast of Revelation" and thereby denying Jesus as the Son of YHVH/God.

тАЬThe wicked shall be turned into hell, And all the nations that forget God.тАЭ [Psalm 9:17]

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

Carl Jung, influential in the fields of psychiatry, anthropology, archaeology, literature, philosophy, psychology and religious studies in his autobiography "Memories Dream Reflections" said "I will not discuss the transparent prophecies of the Book of Revelation because no one believes in them and the whole subject is felt to be an embarrassing one."

Revelations is a mess! The obscure and extravagant imagery has led to a wide variety of Christian interpretations. Historicist interpretations see Revelation as containing a broad view of history mostly referring to the events of the Apostolic Age (1st century), or, at the latest, the fall of the Western Roman Empire in the 5th century. That is, in the past!

Even to the present day some churches still reject it. Being skeptical about its authorship and unusual style. Some Churches consider it to be heretical.

As for Jesus himself describing something; why do Christian expect a book written by unknown authors in a variety of languages, that was translated, rewritten, edited countless times ~ is evidence for anything?

It's just a book. Every statement of "Jesus said" needs to start with "my old book says Jesus says...."

And as for referencing Biblical scriptures; it still amazes me that Christians think the Bible is evidence. The Bible is the CLAIM, not the evidence. "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God" is just a claim! Nothing more!

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Donna Wilson's avatar

You're right, Dennis. If you study the Bible as a piece of literature, you will learn that Revelation follows a formulaic style--it's a format that people learned to write and there are other pieces known to scholars that are in Revelation's style. This one got into the Bible. The piece talks about events in the writer's general time frame and is very circumspect, but people in that time apparently understood who and what the writer meant. Revelation was for people then; it wasn't meant for anyone else, let alone us two thousand years later. I got this from listening to the podcasts of Robert M. Price, whose scholasticism is without peer. Any misunderstandings of his work are mine alone.

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Donna Wilson. My name is Carl L. McWilliams. I am 76 years old and in 1981 at the age of 33 I was given a Divine Revelation of the Deity of Jesus Christ as the Son of the Living God. I was stunned to learn that God had become Flesh. In the Spring of 1981 I asked Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior and I have been studying the Holy Bible for over forty years.

Accordingly, based upon your comment I can state unequivocally and without ambiguity, your name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life from the foundation of the world.

Please understand Donna Wilson, Christians are pre-ordained to be chosen to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven at the end of the age of the Gentiles. The followers of Jesus Christ are invited by Almighty God and obviously Donna Wilson you are not on YHVH/God's invitation list.

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

In the Bible, the phrase "in the last days scoffers will come" is mentioned in 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 1:18. These passages warn about individuals who mock Christ, ridicule the things of God, and oppose the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven. According to these verses, scoffers will scoff leading others astray. They will question the promised coming of Jesus Christ and forget the creation and destruction of the world by God's omnipotent word.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

The Bible is just a bunch of shit made up by unknown authors 2,000 years ago. To take anything in it seriously is laughable.

The problem is that the Bible can be interpreted to say anything.

Therefore, God's will is whatever the reader of the Bible thinks his will is.

You can read the Bible or defend the Bible. You can't do both!

It's full of nonsense, untruths and contradictions.

It's always ironical to hear the hundredth different interpretation of the Bible with the complete certainty to say that everyone else got it wrong. And these are the people that consider themselves humble. LOL

Repent of your preaching. Study science for its reliability, becoming educated in the process! Reality 101

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

Who cares what is in that dusty old book written by unknown authors!

"Religion poisons everything!" - Christopher Hitchens

Netanyahu invoked the BIBLICAL reference with the Amalek rhetoric for a blatant call to genocide.

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." 1 Samuel 15:3.

Now 100,000 + have been slaughtered. And their houses, electricity, drinking water, sewage facilities and hospitals destroyed.

Because the Palestinians had the audacity to pray to a different GOD!

And NOT ONE GOD has lifted a finger to stop the genocide.

Either they do not give a shit, or they do not exist!

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Ben's avatar

And you called cankerpuss a troll muahahahaha

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Scott's avatar

He's just trolling, ignore.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

Why not? Is this a special Club?

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Roger Beal's avatar

The trolls under the bridge said he had bad breath, and forced him to leave.

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messianicdruid's avatar

Let there be bright.

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Devin Nickle's avatar

Your leftist heroes will love prison gang rape.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

John - you've been watching too much Emeril.

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astera's avatar

LOL

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Damn the torpedoes's avatar

Please go away. This is a select group, and youтАЩre not welcome.

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