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Yirgach's avatar

Exactly. The Gaza takeover seems to be an attempt to get the neighbors involved in community cleanup. The Palestinians managed to turn some of the most attractive Mediterranean real estate into an oozing overpopulated eyesore. No one wants to take them in, probably for very good reasons.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I am going to say something that may be deemed unpopular but I am opposed to Trump doing this in Gaza. I am so tired of the US spending money WE DO NOT HAVE (more debt) in nations across the pond. This has no benefit whatsoever to Americans here! Our Country is collapsing, our infrastructure is crumbling and Trump is talking about rebuilding Gaza? Hey, I respect Mr. Trump. He is a man towering over most men. But I am at whits end when a nation that is $36 trillion in debt is still tinkering with rebuilding some shithole in a foreign nation. How does rebuilding Gaza help me living in the Rocky Mountains of Utah? If he's talking private investment in the rebuilding then kudos to them. But the USA is busted. We have to stop spending so much money.

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Seoulsurvivor's avatar

You're right. WE can not afford it. But a consortium of venture capitalist can. The U.S. will simply be the project manager putting it all together. And taking our little mordida along the way.

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Peggy Gilmour's avatar

Of course.

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rd3's avatar

Capitalism will destroy everything it touches. Cuba is a communist shit hole, but at least its beaches are still beautiful and aren't ringed with 40 story condo buildings from Florida to Virginia. When I was a kid, my buddy's parents had a house on the beach in Apalachicola. From the deck, you couldn't see another house. I was taking a piss at a truck stop a couple years ago. The trucker at the urinal next to me remarked: "Pretty soon this whole fucking country is going to be nothing but Walmarts and gas stations." More wisdom than you could find in the Ivy League.

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Lugh's avatar

Every couple of miles there has to be a mini-mall with exactly the same stores as all the others. Insatiable greed. Generations of swine. One doesn't expect guys like the trucker or an old fashioned Conservative like you to know things like this. But you see it and can't deny it.

There are no easy answers. The staunch small business/entrepreneurial ethos transforms into this. The answer is Catastrophe and a return to the beginning, the End of the World in the Christian sense, or National Socialism and the the New Man. I admit the last is the least likely at this point.

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Yirgach's avatar

Yes, we are spending more than we have. $36trillion in debt. We know and everyone else knows that amount of debt cannot possibly be repaid. Cannot happen. Ever.

Accepting the fact that maybe foreign policy should focus on getting the responsible parties to own up and pay their dues? Can you say NATO? The Mideast?

Mebbe that stance will actually strengthen the belief in US integrity. That will take a lot.

And don't forget, the US has Nukes.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Well Cankerpuss, maybe in his thinking, if we get rid of Hamas by interceding, we will not have to send as much military aid to Israel and may actually save money? To Trump, and any other real estate type, growth is the answer to most problems. Gaza is growth. So is SoCal.

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Lugh's avatar

John's Christianity is long on belief and short on morality. He believes in Israel far more than he believes in Christ.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Oh my, you show your stupidity and name calling ignorance again and again.

If anyone on this blog is more Anti-Christian than you, I have not seen them. And I have watched you spread your hateful bigotry over and over. Also, your Fascist blathering about how bad Trump is and what a hero Hitler was. Screw you!

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Renee Marie's avatar

тАЬGaza is growthтАЭ???? Are you insane?

Are your children and family being murdered daily? Is your family being forced to move out of your homeland?

I suggest you do your research outside of msm. It would behoove you.

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Ben's avatar
Feb 8Edited

No John is not insane.

He was trying to say rebuilding a war-torn area can be healing.

The problem the people living there you know the ones who keep putting terrorists in charge of their "government" do not want peace they want endless war till there is no Israel or no them and at this point I doubt Israel has any other ideas either.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Damn youтАЩre asleep.

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Ben's avatar

Wide awake sunshine.

I see the problems in this area all to clearly.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Yes. I am sunshineтАжsunshine of God/Creator and Truth.

I hope one day, you see the Truth of Humanity.

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Ben's avatar

No that was sarcasm and now you show just how full of it you really are.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Yes, IтАЩm full of Truth.

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Ben's avatar
Feb 8Edited

Let me get this straight you are trying to say that a majority of Palestinians didn't vote in Hamas?

Or that a majority of them did not support the PLO and an equally vicious prick in Yassir Arafat?

That Hamas did not spend billions digging tunnels and buying weapons of war and you say you speak truth pffft.

That is not sunshine or truth leaking out of you.

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Stormzeye's avatar

Trump likes to "fire for effect". In other words he's putting out what seems to be an outrageous idea only to gauge the reaction and get people to talk about it. Pros and cons get discussed and what seemed foolish at first becomes possible then likely.

The US won't spend a dime on Gaza but the Gulf State trillionaires certainly will.

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J Boss's avatar

I would have less of an objection (but not zero or approval) for the Gaza thing if Israel payed for 100% of it and we stopped gifting all that money and unanimous new-law votes in their behalf. I don't think it's "nationalism plus Israelism" - we need to restore our house before we save anyone else any more.

Likely unpopular... and I'm not that versed in exactly WHY the U.S. is so all-in to support Israel. So, as the meme says, change my mind. I'm genuinely curious and perplexed b/c I see no reason for it at this time.

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Lugh's avatar

Easy. The Jews control our financial system and thus our nation. Being a nation without borders whose locus is Israel, Israel is their first concern.

Why would America care if we ruled ourselves? Washington said in his Farewell Address: Stay out of foreign wars.

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Ben's avatar
Feb 8Edited

That is easy.

Israel is being used as a proxy force against Iran.

You know the country that has called Israel Little Satan and called the US big Satan.

Iran decided to support one of its enemies in a proxy war against Israel and the US namely Hamas and it has only gotten worse.

Even more to the point when Obama and Biden handed over hundreds of billions of dollars to Iran, they used the money to fund battles in and around Israel.

Now Iran desperately wants nukes, and the cult Ahmadinejad and the ruling clerics belong to will use them first chance they get.

They don't care about Palestinians anymore then Hamas does it's about destroying Israel and then the US as well as the west.

There is nothing new here this has been going on for a thousand years just an ebb and flow in the clash of civilizations.

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rd3's avatar

"Israel is being used as a proxy force against Iran."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahah

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Ben's avatar
Feb 8Edited

Please prove me wrong...Iran got bent over and buggered by Israel.

So badly they have said very little since then.

'Operation Days of Repentance' - How Israel's strike on Iran unfolded

Targets in around 20 locations across the country are believed to have been hit. Iran has downplayed the impact but Israel says its mission was a success.

Israel's pre-dawn attack on Iran was one of the biggest and most complex air assaults the country has ever conducted.

Dozens of aircraft, including Western-made fifth-generation stealth jets as well as F-16 and F-15 warplanes, flew more than 1,000 miles to strike multiple targets inside Iran, including the regime's prized, Russian-provided S-300 air defence systems.

An Israeli source said four of the S-300 systems were hit along with radars and other air defence capabilities, reducing the risk to Israeli aircraft should they be deployed on any future mission against the Iranian regime.

Middle East latest: Israel hit former nuclear test site, images reveal

The raid - codenamed "Operation Days of Repentance" - also targeted sites where Iran was manufacturing missiles used to threaten Israel.

"It was a significant attack... We were able to achieve all the goals," the source said.

The Israeli government had vowed to retaliate after Iran launched more than 180 ballistic missiles at Israel on 1 October in response to Israeli attacks against Iranian interests.

However, a number of the 1,000-kg warheads did impact on Israeli targets.

"It is a threat that we cannot accept," the source said.

Long anticipated, Israel's weekend retaliation came in three waves, with the first strike hitting at about 2am on 26 October and the last Israeli jet safety returning to Israel by 6am.

No aircraft were lost or damaged in the mission.

In what was described as a "complex" operation, Israeli fighter jets, supported by air-to-air refuelling aircraft and reconnaissance planes, left their bases before midnight on 25 October.

They had to fly more than 1,000 miles to be within range of their targets - a journey that would have required the warplanes to refuel en route and fly over hostile airspace.

The aircraft were armed with so-called "stand-off munitions" - missiles that can be launched from a distance, meaning they did not need to enter Iranian air space to achieve their goal.

'Picked off with impunity'

Israel has not publicly acknowledged the route for its operation.

However, it is thought the Israeli Air Force, including 201 Squadron, which operates F-16s, flew over Syria and then into Iraq, firing their weapons from Iraqi airspace, before returning home.

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rd3's avatar

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

Tail. Wag. Dog.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Oh, c'mon. Certainly you can do better than that. Ben shows a detailed description of why the Muslims will never beat the Jews in Israel and you?

Tail. Wag. Dog.?

Hahahahahaha!

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rd3's avatar

Woof!

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Renee Marie's avatar

So now the тАЬJewsтАЭ are doing exactly what theyтАЩve been harping about since WWIIтАжgenocide.

Gaza is genocide and ethnic cleansing.

AmazingтАж

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Lugh's avatar

And they actually believe they are morally superior to us with their Bronze Age morality. Why do you put Jews in quotes btw? It is true that many are against what is being done, but most are for it.

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Renee Marie's avatar

I put тАЬJewsтАЭ in quotes, because they are not real Jews from that area of the world (bloodline). They are not from the Middle East, but they are from Europe.

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Lugh's avatar

Ok, that's valid.

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Ben's avatar
Feb 8Edited

It is ethnic cleansing genocide not so much.

One of the Arab countries should take in the group of people no one in the world wants anything to do with.

That might have something to do with seventy years of hate for everyone and everything instilled from birth on the rabid Palestinians that bite every hand that tries to help them.

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SocratesDetroit's avatar

Why not relocate all the Israelis to Silesia? The Israeli ruling class is descended from Eastern Europeans. Silesia was a historically German area ripped taken from Germany after WW2 and given to Poland (and the German-speaking people who lived there for generations there were forced to leave by Soviet troops).

These Germans (along with those in the Sudetenland) were ethnically cleansed, were they not? The largest refugee migration in post-WW2 Europe. These German refugees played key part in the West German economic miracle, as they started over.

So, why not relocate the Zionists to Silesia and rename it New Israel?

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Ben's avatar

Yes, giving in to terrorism always ends well.

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JohnAZ's avatar

And JHK, how come so many Anti-Jewish haters have congregated on your blog?

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Ben's avatar
Feb 8Edited

Light hand on the tiller with some freedom of speech is a good thing it is after all why many of us are still here.

I suspect he would not be very happy about some of these comment strings.

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Lugh's avatar

How about the western or desert side of Madagascar? Maybe they can make it bloom. Permanent presence of UN Peace Keepers (with American advisors) to keep them from persecuting the Malagassy.

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JohnAZ's avatar

That one is so easy. Because they have won. Israel is very content right where they are, and there is no one that can push them out. Israel is Israel, not Palestine. If you want to move someone, move the Palestinians to Silesia and rename it New Palestine. The Jews aren't going anywhere.

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Renee Marie's avatar

MyтАжyou are brainwashed.

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None's avatar

At least he has a brain.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Yeah, all these people talking out their ass, it may indicate where their brains are located.

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None's avatar

Harping? Seriously? You need to go back to your тАЬrefugeтАЭ and beg forgiveness. YouтАЩre antisemitic and a pretender. Shame on you.

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Bruno's avatar

Found the jew

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Phil Denter's avatar

Right. Like when a psycho beats a dog into being more and more violent. Then nobody wants that dog. "Very good reasons" indeed!

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tom clark's avatar

Ask Christy Noem about how to treat dogs, especially when they're "hard to handle".

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Lugh's avatar

Have you seen her new cos-play military uniform? And those lips!

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tom clark's avatar

Just the type Trump likes, Jarek...I sleep easier every night knowing a gal like her is in charge of Homeland Security.

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Lugh's avatar

You really are a fine little fellow (Gandalf to Bilbo).

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Renee Marie's avatar

GodтАжwake up.

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Bandit's avatar

Amen, Renee!

ЁЯСЛ Take care of you! ЁЯТЬ

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Renee Marie's avatar

Love you Bandit! Peace sister in Christ!ЁЯХКя╕ПЁЯТЬ

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JohnAZ's avatar

Peace Sister in Hate.

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Renee Marie's avatar

ЁЯдк

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