Might want to read "Art of the Deal." Trump has always made proposals that sound preposterous only to get others to get off their backsides and do what's best for all parties involved. And always at a discounted price.
Exactly. The Gaza takeover seems to be an attempt to get the neighbors involved in community cleanup. The Palestinians managed to turn some of the most attractive Mediterranean real estate into an oozing overpopulated eyesore. No one wants to take them in, probably for very good reasons.
I am going to say something that may be deemed unpopular but I am opposed to Trump doing this in Gaza. I am so tired of the US spending money WE DO NOT HAVE (more debt) in nations across the pond. This has no benefit whatsoever to Americans here! Our Country is collapsing, our infrastructure is crumbling and Trump is talking about rebuilding Gaza? Hey, I respect Mr. Trump. He is a man towering over most men. But I am at whits end when a nation that is $36 trillion in debt is still tinkering with rebuilding some shithole in a foreign nation. How does rebuilding Gaza help me living in the Rocky Mountains of Utah? If he's talking private investment in the rebuilding then kudos to them. But the USA is busted. We have to stop spending so much money.
You're right. WE can not afford it. But a consortium of venture capitalist can. The U.S. will simply be the project manager putting it all together. And taking our little mordida along the way.
Capitalism will destroy everything it touches. Cuba is a communist shit hole, but at least its beaches are still beautiful and aren't ringed with 40 story condo buildings from Florida to Virginia. When I was a kid, my buddy's parents had a house on the beach in Apalachicola. From the deck, you couldn't see another house. I was taking a piss at a truck stop a couple years ago. The trucker at the urinal next to me remarked: "Pretty soon this whole fucking country is going to be nothing but Walmarts and gas stations." More wisdom than you could find in the Ivy League.
Every couple of miles there has to be a mini-mall with exactly the same stores as all the others. Insatiable greed. Generations of swine. One doesn't expect guys like the trucker or an old fashioned Conservative like you to know things like this. But you see it and can't deny it.
There are no easy answers. The staunch small business/entrepreneurial ethos transforms into this. The answer is Catastrophe and a return to the beginning, the End of the World in the Christian sense, or National Socialism and the the New Man. I admit the last is the least likely at this point.
Yes, we are spending more than we have. $36trillion in debt. We know and everyone else knows that amount of debt cannot possibly be repaid. Cannot happen. Ever.
Accepting the fact that maybe foreign policy should focus on getting the responsible parties to own up and pay their dues? Can you say NATO? The Mideast?
Mebbe that stance will actually strengthen the belief in US integrity. That will take a lot.
Well Cankerpuss, maybe in his thinking, if we get rid of Hamas by interceding, we will not have to send as much military aid to Israel and may actually save money? To Trump, and any other real estate type, growth is the answer to most problems. Gaza is growth. So is SoCal.
Oh my, you show your stupidity and name calling ignorance again and again.
If anyone on this blog is more Anti-Christian than you, I have not seen them. And I have watched you spread your hateful bigotry over and over. Also, your Fascist blathering about how bad Trump is and what a hero Hitler was. Screw you!
He was trying to say rebuilding a war-torn area can be healing.
The problem the people living there you know the ones who keep putting terrorists in charge of their "government" do not want peace they want endless war till there is no Israel or no them and at this point I doubt Israel has any other ideas either.
Trump likes to "fire for effect". In other words he's putting out what seems to be an outrageous idea only to gauge the reaction and get people to talk about it. Pros and cons get discussed and what seemed foolish at first becomes possible then likely.
The US won't spend a dime on Gaza but the Gulf State trillionaires certainly will.
I would have less of an objection (but not zero or approval) for the Gaza thing if Israel payed for 100% of it and we stopped gifting all that money and unanimous new-law votes in their behalf. I don't think it's "nationalism plus Israelism" - we need to restore our house before we save anyone else any more.
Likely unpopular... and I'm not that versed in exactly WHY the U.S. is so all-in to support Israel. So, as the meme says, change my mind. I'm genuinely curious and perplexed b/c I see no reason for it at this time.
Israel is being used as a proxy force against Iran.
You know the country that has called Israel Little Satan and called the US big Satan.
Iran decided to support one of its enemies in a proxy war against Israel and the US namely Hamas and it has only gotten worse.
Even more to the point when Obama and Biden handed over hundreds of billions of dollars to Iran, they used the money to fund battles in and around Israel.
Now Iran desperately wants nukes, and the cult Ahmadinejad and the ruling clerics belong to will use them first chance they get.
They don't care about Palestinians anymore then Hamas does it's about destroying Israel and then the US as well as the west.
There is nothing new here this has been going on for a thousand years just an ebb and flow in the clash of civilizations.
Please prove me wrong...Iran got bent over and buggered by Israel.
So badly they have said very little since then.
'Operation Days of Repentance' - How Israel's strike on Iran unfolded
Targets in around 20 locations across the country are believed to have been hit. Iran has downplayed the impact but Israel says its mission was a success.
Israel's pre-dawn attack on Iran was one of the biggest and most complex air assaults the country has ever conducted.
Dozens of aircraft, including Western-made fifth-generation stealth jets as well as F-16 and F-15 warplanes, flew more than 1,000 miles to strike multiple targets inside Iran, including the regime's prized, Russian-provided S-300 air defence systems.
An Israeli source said four of the S-300 systems were hit along with radars and other air defence capabilities, reducing the risk to Israeli aircraft should they be deployed on any future mission against the Iranian regime.
Middle East latest: Israel hit former nuclear test site, images reveal
The raid - codenamed "Operation Days of Repentance" - also targeted sites where Iran was manufacturing missiles used to threaten Israel.
"It was a significant attack... We were able to achieve all the goals," the source said.
The Israeli government had vowed to retaliate after Iran launched more than 180 ballistic missiles at Israel on 1 October in response to Israeli attacks against Iranian interests.
However, a number of the 1,000-kg warheads did impact on Israeli targets.
"It is a threat that we cannot accept," the source said.
Long anticipated, Israel's weekend retaliation came in three waves, with the first strike hitting at about 2am on 26 October and the last Israeli jet safety returning to Israel by 6am.
No aircraft were lost or damaged in the mission.
In what was described as a "complex" operation, Israeli fighter jets, supported by air-to-air refuelling aircraft and reconnaissance planes, left their bases before midnight on 25 October.
They had to fly more than 1,000 miles to be within range of their targets - a journey that would have required the warplanes to refuel en route and fly over hostile airspace.
The aircraft were armed with so-called "stand-off munitions" - missiles that can be launched from a distance, meaning they did not need to enter Iranian air space to achieve their goal.
'Picked off with impunity'
Israel has not publicly acknowledged the route for its operation.
However, it is thought the Israeli Air Force, including 201 Squadron, which operates F-16s, flew over Syria and then into Iraq, firing their weapons from Iraqi airspace, before returning home.
And they actually believe they are morally superior to us with their Bronze Age morality. Why do you put Jews in quotes btw? It is true that many are against what is being done, but most are for it.
I put тАЬJewsтАЭ in quotes, because they are not real Jews from that area of the world (bloodline). They are not from the Middle East, but they are from Europe.
One of the Arab countries should take in the group of people no one in the world wants anything to do with.
That might have something to do with seventy years of hate for everyone and everything instilled from birth on the rabid Palestinians that bite every hand that tries to help them.
Why not relocate all the Israelis to Silesia? The Israeli ruling class is descended from Eastern Europeans. Silesia was a historically German area ripped taken from Germany after WW2 and given to Poland (and the German-speaking people who lived there for generations there were forced to leave by Soviet troops).
These Germans (along with those in the Sudetenland) were ethnically cleansed, were they not? The largest refugee migration in post-WW2 Europe. These German refugees played key part in the West German economic miracle, as they started over.
So, why not relocate the Zionists to Silesia and rename it New Israel?
How about the western or desert side of Madagascar? Maybe they can make it bloom. Permanent presence of UN Peace Keepers (with American advisors) to keep them from persecuting the Malagassy.
That one is so easy. Because they have won. Israel is very content right where they are, and there is no one that can push them out. Israel is Israel, not Palestine. If you want to move someone, move the Palestinians to Silesia and rename it New Palestine. The Jews aren't going anywhere.
The Gulf states have a Plan to rebuild Gaza. Just get the pesky Israelis out of the way. Bring in American and UN Troops to keep Israel in check. Do the same on the West Bank.
The above is from a famous quote by a Sephardic Rabbi anent the goyim as a whole. We were created to serve the Jews. We work and they sit like Effendi being served.
When Judah Benjamin took the gold and took off from Florida, his boat was stopped by a Yankee boat and he pretended to be the cook. The American captain remarked that it was the first time he ever saw a Jew do menial labor.
Exactly. Like sending Israel $4,000,000,000/year of US taxpayer debt to finance apartheid concentration camps. It has gone from unthinkable to standard operating procedure.
I appreciate that you mentioned the money spent is "taxpayer debt." It isn't money. We have no money. Technically, we are the poorest nation on the planet. $36 trillion poor.
We're in the middle of the death of the dollar. We've been warned about it for years, and now it's happening. I think that everything Trump is doing is to stave off collapse.
It's not completely hopeless yet. Slash military spending levels, reform SS and Medicare, slash welfare spending and eliminate 90% of the Federal Government and send it back to the States would be a good start, show the world that the USA is serious about its financial situation and we might be able to see some recovery and reductions in debt. Is Trump willing to do this? Maybe? Congress. Not a chance. Too many idiot doofusses like AOC who have no clue how money works.
Think about USAID, the international welfare program for deviants. The USтАЩs attempt to make the world dependent on our welfare. You want all the programs cut, how will that affect the unemployment rate? The Feds have succeeded in making the working class dependent on them, so what happens when they are cut loose. This is going to be painful. 2026 looms near already.
I think we are witnessing a clever "new facade", where the worst (and least beneficial to both the masses, and the elites) excesses of the Democrats like wokeism, green energy, and open borders are curbed, but the parasitic losses sustained by middle America to make the rich and powerful more-so continue.
After all, an America with a little more order should do better, and all this benefit can be scooped up by big tech, big money, big pharma (even if some of the elites prefer to enrich themselves by impoverishing the masses, because others prefer to enrich themselves by giving the masses illusion we are all together).
The US doesn't send more money to Isreal than any other nation in the world, nor did the US and Allies create Isreal, to protect Jews, protect the Christian Holy Lands, make amends for the holocaust, or anything else. The US sends money to Isreal to maintain a heavily nuclear armed outpost for the US within striking distance of the entire Middle East.
It's same reason we are sending hundreds of billions to Ukraine and the reason we screwed up the Balkans and left them with a Gaza-type situation to clean up in our wake in the 1990s. It has nothing to do with religion (by the way, there are more Neo-Nazis than Jews in both those places). Muslims wanted an outpost in the West from which their weapons could strike Western Europe and Serbia was ready to provide it. Europe has no defense other than NATO, and therefore we were the last line of defense to stop Muslims from creating their own "Isreal" in Europe.
If those who look at everything through a "Stop the Zionists" lense could take a peek around their lense, they might think critically about all the ways the US having it's very own outpost right next door to Isreal would change many dynamics of the complicated relationship between the US and our "closest ally" Isreal. For starters, we wouldn't need to send them $4 trillion and most of our tech every year.
There is confluence of interest between Zionism and Imperialism for sure.
That said, please tell us, which nation (other than "aid" to "Ukraine", most of which is used to fund US entities, and some of that buys arms that go to Ukraine for a US-sponsored proxy war) gets more aid than Israel?
Israel has received the largest share of U.S. aid every year or almost every year since it was formed. Number 2 changes but Egypt is generally 2 or 3. I donтАЩt know the reason for certain, but perhaps to assure the free access to the Suez Canal. Maybe we pay them to keep the peace with Israel. I donтАЩt know, but IтАЩve always thought it was curious.
I usually ignore replies not intended to start thoughtful dialogue, but there are so many dogs and tails in this story, I am genuinely interested in your perspective.
Would it be correct to understand your reply to say Zionists were so powerful throughout the world before and after WWII that they were able to cause the Allies to take Palestine, create Israel, relocate the Jews in diaspora, and then pay the sums weтАЩve been paying to defend it for 75 years without American self-interest?
That's exactly what the Panama Canal and Greenland ideas did. And the tariffs. And the NATO spending. He's using seemingly outrageous ideas to bring people to the table, if only out of fear.
My read on this тАЬideaтАЭ was that Trump was loudly proclaiming two things: we cannot continue doing the same things and expect different results; the тАЬtwo state solutionтАЭ is dead. RIP
Never did anything to us? Didn't they hold an entire embassy hostage during the Carter Administration? Held them for months while the ineffectual Carter tried to get them released. Regan got them released on his inauguration day, They've been our avowed enemies since the day they deposed the shah.
I am not a Marxist and I don't hate anyone (your ad hominem ad infinitum ad nauseam notwithstanding).
Rather, I am a capitalist, an economist and a follower of the words of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
The USA is not perfect. The USA is not above reproach. The USA must stand scrutiny and criticism for its actions. That, of course, can be performed without hate.
I do not know if you can be a follower of Jesus and a hater at the same time, at least not in the Bible I read. The bigotry and xenophobia that this blog's commenters espouse any more is worsening.
To be dismissed as an idiot on a site where people genuinely think the Trump 'assassination' attempt was real (and was Iran's doing), complete with the ridiculous Iwo Jima pastiche, is a compliment. Not to mention that they don't remotely get Trump's (i.e.Trump the Actor's) role in the ongoing psyop. They got the evil-idiot Biden's role, but not President Warp Speed, who has for some time now had Baaahby on board who hasn't mentioned the poison shots for over 6 months because the worst danger to man, woman and child is not now the next stage of the global technocratic coup and the coming biodigital slave system, but the colouring in Froot Loops.
Baaaahby who just submitted himself to ritual humiliation to get his feet under the table (either that or he was always dodgy as hell - there isn't a middle option).
And then there's the transhumanist Luciferian who wants to put chips in your brain. Peter Thiel's pal.
Bought. And. Paid. For. All of them. 'One Nation under Blackmail', per Whitney. What I certainly don't intend to do is attempt to persuade any of the folks on here otherwise. Lots of people are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and I'm not a psychiatrist, so providing professional help is beyond me.
Like the man who shows up to a gun fight with a knife....
Obviously, you have ZERO tactical training with guns or knives as the man with a knife has a very good chance of carving up a man with gun if he is inside 10 feet.
Ben, you are being ganged up on, calmly back away. These haters feed on each other, they all have the same character, hate everybody and everything. No matter who has inhabited the White House or DC, they hate them.
Well, they used men of more advanced civilizations to build their beautiful Mosques, but they've always been traders and know a bit about finance. So know what they never did? They never turned their finances over to an alien people who hate them. So in this sense at least, they are far smarter than we are.
The CIA engineered the overthrow of Iran's elected leader, Mossadegh, in 1953, and put the (then young) Shah of Iran in charge, because the British wanted to control Iran's oil.
The Shah and his secret police executed hundreds or thousands of people and tortured many more.
That's blood on America's hands.
History did not start in 1979.
What is "terrorism"? What was the US firebombing of German and Japanese cities, culminating in the nuclear destruction of two of them?
Odd you ignore the millions of people suffering under an even more brutal regime in IRAN now!
That of course goes against your narrative.
You ignore the millions of people that did not have to deal with a full-scale invasion of Japan or that the Japanese had literally told women and children American GI's would rape and murder them.
Or how the Japanese treated anyone who fell under their power.
Japanese cruelty was legendary.
Nor are you dealing with the reality that a bombing campaign would cause ANYWHERE they dropped them in to burn they made their houses from wood and paper.
Even more telling you ignore Japan's own attempts at the bomb both their army and navy tried to make one and came fairly close but of course Jap nukes are somehow safer and saner had they actually succeeded in making them.
Or that infamous order that the remaining Japanese should fight with sharpened bamboo sticks to the last Japanese person in Japan called operation downfall.
Seems you like to argue the same tired bullshit forever but never actually learn much.
I agree with you on this. I love what Trump is doing so far, but his idea about Gaza is so bad that I can only hope that it's only some type of negotiating tool. Another bad idea I keep hearing from Trump is about establishing a federal bitcoin reserve. I hope he comes to his senses on these two things.
You are right. In Adm. #1, he tried to assist them in тАЬgetting their shit togetherтАЭ with the Abraham accords. It almost worked, even with Biden. The accords were going to be signed and Oct. 7 happened, the response by Iran to stop the process of pacification of the ME. Iran stands for one thing, the Mullahs anyway, and that is violence and war. Bibi , IMO, gave up too soon, again caving to world opinion and the USA to NOT wipe out Hamas. Ceasefires have been a joke for 70 years, just another pause to allow Iran to re-arm Hamas and Hezbollah. I hope that Israel closed down those southern tunnels to prevent the transportation of weaponry into Gaza.
In the meantime, here are all the Dems pushing to just let things go as they have. It fits the mold, expecting different results over and over. Insanity!
HavenтАЩt you figured out that Lugh, Jarek is a devilтАЩs advocate, he will counter anything that is American in nature and what is the current drift of the blog. He has been that way longer than I have been on the blog which is quite awhile. He is an equal opportunity hater.
What makes you, you? If I bought an Italian restaurant named Luigi's, kept the name and the wait staff, but served Chinese food, would it still be an Italian restaurant? What if you were the cook, cooking the Chinese food?
It's basically the same as the CCP song, How I love to haul manure up the mountain to fulfill Mao's Dream. We need those hotels, Tony. More rich people have to get more rich at the expense of everyone.
He wants the USA to be the leader of a coalition of ME countries to stop fighting and start building up their area. Sorta like Dubai. The UAE has turned the desert into an international focus. To be able to stop the negative Hamas in Gaza and allow free access for development, Iran must be neutralized.
I do have a question for Trump, if he deports all the Palestinians to Arab lands, who is going to build the Gaza dream? Could he mean deport all the Hamas criminals, sorta like here.
Since the U.N. and a vast majority of countries in the General Assembly recognize Palestine along pre-1967 borders (U.N.Resolution 242), the Palestinian people own Gaza and the West Bank plus East Jerusalem. It is their property and for them to decide who re-builds it.
It is their legal trillions in LNG off the Gaza coast.
The Palestinians need new elections and perhaps all the Palestinians exiled to Lebanon would choose to return? Hamas would win an election in a landslide.
I would like to see China/Russia come in to Gaza to rebuild how ever the Palestinian people choose. Russia could handle the LNG deposits and the proceeds would make Palestine a very rich state.
New hospitals, schools, universities, homes, shops. This is what they deserve for enduring 70 years of living in the largest open-air concentration camp on Earth.
Trump needs a weekend at Camp David with Professor Jeffery Sachs, Col. MacGregor, Larry Johnson etc. to receive an honest tutorial on the history of the region. Throw in an hour on the 1953 CIA coup of the democratically elected leader of Iran to тАШsplain to Mr. Trump why Iran has hated the U.S. over decades.
Then pray he goes back to The White House with his head on straight and starts whistling a different tune.
The people of Iran DO NOT hate the USA, the Islamic government does. The Mullahs are just barely holding on to power from election to election. There is a large secular movement there that is being clobbered by the Islamic government, but not for long.
"It is their property and for them to decide who re-builds it"? Or who blows it up? Russia could handle the LNG deposits? So why haven't they? Or China? How come Trump has been the only world leader to express a desire to help the Gaza people, instead of re-arming them? It would be nice if new hospitals and schools would be built as something other than a cover for rockets, missiles and weaponry so the Iran proxies can raise hell.
"Israel" now demands that Ireland and Spain take them for daring to call what they're doing genocide. All good men are against "Israel"! Even many Jews.
Greater Israel's not going to survive without bringing in millions of Black Africans. Considering their long involvement in the slave trade, this is simply the right thing to do and the world must demand it.
Only he had better watch his insane ideas about Gaza. They could be his undoing.
America First means less and less foreign entanglement not making Gaza the 51st state.
Might want to read "Art of the Deal." Trump has always made proposals that sound preposterous only to get others to get off their backsides and do what's best for all parties involved. And always at a discounted price.
Exactly. The Gaza takeover seems to be an attempt to get the neighbors involved in community cleanup. The Palestinians managed to turn some of the most attractive Mediterranean real estate into an oozing overpopulated eyesore. No one wants to take them in, probably for very good reasons.
I am going to say something that may be deemed unpopular but I am opposed to Trump doing this in Gaza. I am so tired of the US spending money WE DO NOT HAVE (more debt) in nations across the pond. This has no benefit whatsoever to Americans here! Our Country is collapsing, our infrastructure is crumbling and Trump is talking about rebuilding Gaza? Hey, I respect Mr. Trump. He is a man towering over most men. But I am at whits end when a nation that is $36 trillion in debt is still tinkering with rebuilding some shithole in a foreign nation. How does rebuilding Gaza help me living in the Rocky Mountains of Utah? If he's talking private investment in the rebuilding then kudos to them. But the USA is busted. We have to stop spending so much money.
You're right. WE can not afford it. But a consortium of venture capitalist can. The U.S. will simply be the project manager putting it all together. And taking our little mordida along the way.
Of course.
Capitalism will destroy everything it touches. Cuba is a communist shit hole, but at least its beaches are still beautiful and aren't ringed with 40 story condo buildings from Florida to Virginia. When I was a kid, my buddy's parents had a house on the beach in Apalachicola. From the deck, you couldn't see another house. I was taking a piss at a truck stop a couple years ago. The trucker at the urinal next to me remarked: "Pretty soon this whole fucking country is going to be nothing but Walmarts and gas stations." More wisdom than you could find in the Ivy League.
Every couple of miles there has to be a mini-mall with exactly the same stores as all the others. Insatiable greed. Generations of swine. One doesn't expect guys like the trucker or an old fashioned Conservative like you to know things like this. But you see it and can't deny it.
There are no easy answers. The staunch small business/entrepreneurial ethos transforms into this. The answer is Catastrophe and a return to the beginning, the End of the World in the Christian sense, or National Socialism and the the New Man. I admit the last is the least likely at this point.
Yes, we are spending more than we have. $36trillion in debt. We know and everyone else knows that amount of debt cannot possibly be repaid. Cannot happen. Ever.
Accepting the fact that maybe foreign policy should focus on getting the responsible parties to own up and pay their dues? Can you say NATO? The Mideast?
Mebbe that stance will actually strengthen the belief in US integrity. That will take a lot.
And don't forget, the US has Nukes.
Well Cankerpuss, maybe in his thinking, if we get rid of Hamas by interceding, we will not have to send as much military aid to Israel and may actually save money? To Trump, and any other real estate type, growth is the answer to most problems. Gaza is growth. So is SoCal.
John's Christianity is long on belief and short on morality. He believes in Israel far more than he believes in Christ.
Oh my, you show your stupidity and name calling ignorance again and again.
If anyone on this blog is more Anti-Christian than you, I have not seen them. And I have watched you spread your hateful bigotry over and over. Also, your Fascist blathering about how bad Trump is and what a hero Hitler was. Screw you!
тАЬGaza is growthтАЭ???? Are you insane?
Are your children and family being murdered daily? Is your family being forced to move out of your homeland?
I suggest you do your research outside of msm. It would behoove you.
No John is not insane.
He was trying to say rebuilding a war-torn area can be healing.
The problem the people living there you know the ones who keep putting terrorists in charge of their "government" do not want peace they want endless war till there is no Israel or no them and at this point I doubt Israel has any other ideas either.
Damn youтАЩre asleep.
Wide awake sunshine.
I see the problems in this area all to clearly.
Yes. I am sunshineтАжsunshine of God/Creator and Truth.
I hope one day, you see the Truth of Humanity.
No that was sarcasm and now you show just how full of it you really are.
Trump likes to "fire for effect". In other words he's putting out what seems to be an outrageous idea only to gauge the reaction and get people to talk about it. Pros and cons get discussed and what seemed foolish at first becomes possible then likely.
The US won't spend a dime on Gaza but the Gulf State trillionaires certainly will.
I would have less of an objection (but not zero or approval) for the Gaza thing if Israel payed for 100% of it and we stopped gifting all that money and unanimous new-law votes in their behalf. I don't think it's "nationalism plus Israelism" - we need to restore our house before we save anyone else any more.
Likely unpopular... and I'm not that versed in exactly WHY the U.S. is so all-in to support Israel. So, as the meme says, change my mind. I'm genuinely curious and perplexed b/c I see no reason for it at this time.
Easy. The Jews control our financial system and thus our nation. Being a nation without borders whose locus is Israel, Israel is their first concern.
Why would America care if we ruled ourselves? Washington said in his Farewell Address: Stay out of foreign wars.
That is easy.
Israel is being used as a proxy force against Iran.
You know the country that has called Israel Little Satan and called the US big Satan.
Iran decided to support one of its enemies in a proxy war against Israel and the US namely Hamas and it has only gotten worse.
Even more to the point when Obama and Biden handed over hundreds of billions of dollars to Iran, they used the money to fund battles in and around Israel.
Now Iran desperately wants nukes, and the cult Ahmadinejad and the ruling clerics belong to will use them first chance they get.
They don't care about Palestinians anymore then Hamas does it's about destroying Israel and then the US as well as the west.
There is nothing new here this has been going on for a thousand years just an ebb and flow in the clash of civilizations.
"Israel is being used as a proxy force against Iran."
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahah
Please prove me wrong...Iran got bent over and buggered by Israel.
So badly they have said very little since then.
'Operation Days of Repentance' - How Israel's strike on Iran unfolded
Targets in around 20 locations across the country are believed to have been hit. Iran has downplayed the impact but Israel says its mission was a success.
Israel's pre-dawn attack on Iran was one of the biggest and most complex air assaults the country has ever conducted.
Dozens of aircraft, including Western-made fifth-generation stealth jets as well as F-16 and F-15 warplanes, flew more than 1,000 miles to strike multiple targets inside Iran, including the regime's prized, Russian-provided S-300 air defence systems.
An Israeli source said four of the S-300 systems were hit along with radars and other air defence capabilities, reducing the risk to Israeli aircraft should they be deployed on any future mission against the Iranian regime.
Middle East latest: Israel hit former nuclear test site, images reveal
The raid - codenamed "Operation Days of Repentance" - also targeted sites where Iran was manufacturing missiles used to threaten Israel.
"It was a significant attack... We were able to achieve all the goals," the source said.
The Israeli government had vowed to retaliate after Iran launched more than 180 ballistic missiles at Israel on 1 October in response to Israeli attacks against Iranian interests.
However, a number of the 1,000-kg warheads did impact on Israeli targets.
"It is a threat that we cannot accept," the source said.
Long anticipated, Israel's weekend retaliation came in three waves, with the first strike hitting at about 2am on 26 October and the last Israeli jet safety returning to Israel by 6am.
No aircraft were lost or damaged in the mission.
In what was described as a "complex" operation, Israeli fighter jets, supported by air-to-air refuelling aircraft and reconnaissance planes, left their bases before midnight on 25 October.
They had to fly more than 1,000 miles to be within range of their targets - a journey that would have required the warplanes to refuel en route and fly over hostile airspace.
The aircraft were armed with so-called "stand-off munitions" - missiles that can be launched from a distance, meaning they did not need to enter Iranian air space to achieve their goal.
'Picked off with impunity'
Israel has not publicly acknowledged the route for its operation.
However, it is thought the Israeli Air Force, including 201 Squadron, which operates F-16s, flew over Syria and then into Iraq, firing their weapons from Iraqi airspace, before returning home.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
Tail. Wag. Dog.
Oh, c'mon. Certainly you can do better than that. Ben shows a detailed description of why the Muslims will never beat the Jews in Israel and you?
Tail. Wag. Dog.?
Hahahahahaha!
Woof!
So now the тАЬJewsтАЭ are doing exactly what theyтАЩve been harping about since WWIIтАжgenocide.
Gaza is genocide and ethnic cleansing.
AmazingтАж
And they actually believe they are morally superior to us with their Bronze Age morality. Why do you put Jews in quotes btw? It is true that many are against what is being done, but most are for it.
I put тАЬJewsтАЭ in quotes, because they are not real Jews from that area of the world (bloodline). They are not from the Middle East, but they are from Europe.
Ok, that's valid.
It is ethnic cleansing genocide not so much.
One of the Arab countries should take in the group of people no one in the world wants anything to do with.
That might have something to do with seventy years of hate for everyone and everything instilled from birth on the rabid Palestinians that bite every hand that tries to help them.
Why not relocate all the Israelis to Silesia? The Israeli ruling class is descended from Eastern Europeans. Silesia was a historically German area ripped taken from Germany after WW2 and given to Poland (and the German-speaking people who lived there for generations there were forced to leave by Soviet troops).
These Germans (along with those in the Sudetenland) were ethnically cleansed, were they not? The largest refugee migration in post-WW2 Europe. These German refugees played key part in the West German economic miracle, as they started over.
So, why not relocate the Zionists to Silesia and rename it New Israel?
Yes, giving in to terrorism always ends well.
And JHK, how come so many Anti-Jewish haters have congregated on your blog?
Light hand on the tiller with some freedom of speech is a good thing it is after all why many of us are still here.
I suspect he would not be very happy about some of these comment strings.
How about the western or desert side of Madagascar? Maybe they can make it bloom. Permanent presence of UN Peace Keepers (with American advisors) to keep them from persecuting the Malagassy.
That one is so easy. Because they have won. Israel is very content right where they are, and there is no one that can push them out. Israel is Israel, not Palestine. If you want to move someone, move the Palestinians to Silesia and rename it New Palestine. The Jews aren't going anywhere.
MyтАжyou are brainwashed.
At least he has a brain.
Yeah, all these people talking out their ass, it may indicate where their brains are located.
Harping? Seriously? You need to go back to your тАЬrefugeтАЭ and beg forgiveness. YouтАЩre antisemitic and a pretender. Shame on you.
Found the jew
Right. Like when a psycho beats a dog into being more and more violent. Then nobody wants that dog. "Very good reasons" indeed!
Ask Christy Noem about how to treat dogs, especially when they're "hard to handle".
Have you seen her new cos-play military uniform? And those lips!
Just the type Trump likes, Jarek...I sleep easier every night knowing a gal like her is in charge of Homeland Security.
You really are a fine little fellow (Gandalf to Bilbo).
GodтАжwake up.
Amen, Renee!
ЁЯСЛ Take care of you! ЁЯТЬ
Love you Bandit! Peace sister in Christ!ЁЯХКя╕ПЁЯТЬ
Peace Sister in Hate.
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The Gulf states have a Plan to rebuild Gaza. Just get the pesky Israelis out of the way. Bring in American and UN Troops to keep Israel in check. Do the same on the West Bank.
Think outside the Zio Box.
No to all the above.
Arabs and Whites will work together to turn Gaza in the Riviera and Las Vegas. Jews will work for us while we sit like Effendi watching them.
Effendi is a Turkish word. It also Arabic? If so, who took it from whom?
The above is from a famous quote by a Sephardic Rabbi anent the goyim as a whole. We were created to serve the Jews. We work and they sit like Effendi being served.
When Judah Benjamin took the gold and took off from Florida, his boat was stopped by a Yankee boat and he pretended to be the cook. The American captain remarked that it was the first time he ever saw a Jew do menial labor.
That appears to have worked internationally.
And things that sound gasp-worthy and pearl-clutchingly audacious at first end up being normalized later... for better or worse.
Exactly. Like sending Israel $4,000,000,000/year of US taxpayer debt to finance apartheid concentration camps. It has gone from unthinkable to standard operating procedure.
I appreciate that you mentioned the money spent is "taxpayer debt." It isn't money. We have no money. Technically, we are the poorest nation on the planet. $36 trillion poor.
BRICS will pull the pin on the fiat US$ one day.
We're in the middle of the death of the dollar. We've been warned about it for years, and now it's happening. I think that everything Trump is doing is to stave off collapse.
It's not completely hopeless yet. Slash military spending levels, reform SS and Medicare, slash welfare spending and eliminate 90% of the Federal Government and send it back to the States would be a good start, show the world that the USA is serious about its financial situation and we might be able to see some recovery and reductions in debt. Is Trump willing to do this? Maybe? Congress. Not a chance. Too many idiot doofusses like AOC who have no clue how money works.
Think about USAID, the international welfare program for deviants. The USтАЩs attempt to make the world dependent on our welfare. You want all the programs cut, how will that affect the unemployment rate? The Feds have succeeded in making the working class dependent on them, so what happens when they are cut loose. This is going to be painful. 2026 looms near already.
You're pretty optimistic this week!
I think we are witnessing a clever "new facade", where the worst (and least beneficial to both the masses, and the elites) excesses of the Democrats like wokeism, green energy, and open borders are curbed, but the parasitic losses sustained by middle America to make the rich and powerful more-so continue.
After all, an America with a little more order should do better, and all this benefit can be scooped up by big tech, big money, big pharma (even if some of the elites prefer to enrich themselves by impoverishing the masses, because others prefer to enrich themselves by giving the masses illusion we are all together).
The US doesn't send more money to Isreal than any other nation in the world, nor did the US and Allies create Isreal, to protect Jews, protect the Christian Holy Lands, make amends for the holocaust, or anything else. The US sends money to Isreal to maintain a heavily nuclear armed outpost for the US within striking distance of the entire Middle East.
It's same reason we are sending hundreds of billions to Ukraine and the reason we screwed up the Balkans and left them with a Gaza-type situation to clean up in our wake in the 1990s. It has nothing to do with religion (by the way, there are more Neo-Nazis than Jews in both those places). Muslims wanted an outpost in the West from which their weapons could strike Western Europe and Serbia was ready to provide it. Europe has no defense other than NATO, and therefore we were the last line of defense to stop Muslims from creating their own "Isreal" in Europe.
If those who look at everything through a "Stop the Zionists" lense could take a peek around their lense, they might think critically about all the ways the US having it's very own outpost right next door to Isreal would change many dynamics of the complicated relationship between the US and our "closest ally" Isreal. For starters, we wouldn't need to send them $4 trillion and most of our tech every year.
There is confluence of interest between Zionism and Imperialism for sure.
That said, please tell us, which nation (other than "aid" to "Ukraine", most of which is used to fund US entities, and some of that buys arms that go to Ukraine for a US-sponsored proxy war) gets more aid than Israel?
Israel has received the largest share of U.S. aid every year or almost every year since it was formed. Number 2 changes but Egypt is generally 2 or 3. I donтАЩt know the reason for certain, but perhaps to assure the free access to the Suez Canal. Maybe we pay them to keep the peace with Israel. I donтАЩt know, but IтАЩve always thought it was curious.
You are confused as to which is the dog and which is the tail.
I usually ignore replies not intended to start thoughtful dialogue, but there are so many dogs and tails in this story, I am genuinely interested in your perspective.
Would it be correct to understand your reply to say Zionists were so powerful throughout the world before and after WWII that they were able to cause the Allies to take Palestine, create Israel, relocate the Jews in diaspora, and then pay the sums weтАЩve been paying to defend it for 75 years without American self-interest?
Yes. They are named Rothschild and they have run world banking since well before Napoleon.
But it is far more complex than just plain-Jane Zionists. For example, the Vatican were/are in on it too.
Thanks for the reply
Everyone in PhilтАЩs life is an enemy.
Phil is simply nuts and a Marxist shill.
No he nailed it.
This is nothing but a modern take on the crusades of old.
I hope this is negotiation bluster.
Bingo.
That's exactly what the Panama Canal and Greenland ideas did. And the tariffs. And the NATO spending. He's using seemingly outrageous ideas to bring people to the table, if only out of fear.
My read on this тАЬideaтАЭ was that Trump was loudly proclaiming two things: we cannot continue doing the same things and expect different results; the тАЬtwo state solutionтАЭ is dead. RIP
Exactly, and that means shutting down the exploits of Iran.
Right. Nuke a nation that has never done anything to us because Israel and the golden pager.
Never did anything to us? Didn't they hold an entire embassy hostage during the Carter Administration? Held them for months while the ineffectual Carter tried to get them released. Regan got them released on his inauguration day, They've been our avowed enemies since the day they deposed the shah.
You probably think that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict started on October 7, 2023. Am I right?
Can't you see that the USA has been the Iranian people's avowed enemy since its 1953 coup in THEIR country?
The USA goes stomping all over earth and then is indignant when the people of earth don't like their stomping!
And here the Marxist says he doesn't hate America or Americans.
So full of shiite it's not even funny.
I am not a Marxist and I don't hate anyone (your ad hominem ad infinitum ad nauseam notwithstanding).
Rather, I am a capitalist, an economist and a follower of the words of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
The USA is not perfect. The USA is not above reproach. The USA must stand scrutiny and criticism for its actions. That, of course, can be performed without hate.
The words say one thing and then the words say another.
Which version of this horse's ass are we to believe?
This man speaks with a forked tongue and then behaves the fool.
What does your bible say about harsh words and arguing?
You can claim anything, but you are so far removed from being an actual "Christian" it's just embarrassing yourself now.
Further proof you are a fallen man and a liar.
May God bless you, Ben.
I do not know if you can be a follower of Jesus and a hater at the same time, at least not in the Bible I read. The bigotry and xenophobia that this blog's commenters espouse any more is worsening.
Iran is responsible for the deaths of thousands of American servicemen through terrorism theyтАЩve sponsored
The US deep state and Mossad blew up 3000 of your own people in one go. I'd clean up at home first.
When did this happen?
Oh you are one of them.
You are dismissed as an idiot.
Sheila: You have a very simple choice in your life:
Agree with Ben or be an idiot.
Ben knows all. Good people agree with Ben 100%. Those that do not are Marxist, hating idiots.
Ben claims the power of God.
To be dismissed as an idiot on a site where people genuinely think the Trump 'assassination' attempt was real (and was Iran's doing), complete with the ridiculous Iwo Jima pastiche, is a compliment. Not to mention that they don't remotely get Trump's (i.e.Trump the Actor's) role in the ongoing psyop. They got the evil-idiot Biden's role, but not President Warp Speed, who has for some time now had Baaahby on board who hasn't mentioned the poison shots for over 6 months because the worst danger to man, woman and child is not now the next stage of the global technocratic coup and the coming biodigital slave system, but the colouring in Froot Loops.
Baaaahby who just submitted himself to ritual humiliation to get his feet under the table (either that or he was always dodgy as hell - there isn't a middle option).
And then there's the transhumanist Luciferian who wants to put chips in your brain. Peter Thiel's pal.
Bought. And. Paid. For. All of them. 'One Nation under Blackmail', per Whitney. What I certainly don't intend to do is attempt to persuade any of the folks on here otherwise. Lots of people are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and I'm not a psychiatrist, so providing professional help is beyond me.
Brilliant! Thank you!
Note: WARp SpEED is their WAR against God's SEED. mRNA is their science to pull mankind from our birthright: God's image.
It is pure evil.
Look at Phil lie.
Well, when does Phil not lie?
Like the man who showed up to a gun fight with a knife, Ben brings his little warhawk brain to battle wits with Sheila.
Like the man who shows up to a gun fight with a knife....
Obviously, you have ZERO tactical training with guns or knives as the man with a knife has a very good chance of carving up a man with gun if he is inside 10 feet.
You once again prove you know nothing.
Hmmm ... maybe if you ceased running earth for your corporate profits there'd be no reason for terrorists. Have you ever thought of that?
Have you ever thought they tell us exactly what they want, and it has nothing to do with corporations or profit but instead with Prophet.
Ben, you are being ganged up on, calmly back away. These haters feed on each other, they all have the same character, hate everybody and everything. No matter who has inhabited the White House or DC, they hate them.
Not in my nature John.
Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes.
Well, they used men of more advanced civilizations to build their beautiful Mosques, but they've always been traders and know a bit about finance. So know what they never did? They never turned their finances over to an alien people who hate them. So in this sense at least, they are far smarter than we are.
The CIA engineered the overthrow of Iran's elected leader, Mossadegh, in 1953, and put the (then young) Shah of Iran in charge, because the British wanted to control Iran's oil.
The Shah and his secret police executed hundreds or thousands of people and tortured many more.
That's blood on America's hands.
History did not start in 1979.
What is "terrorism"? What was the US firebombing of German and Japanese cities, culminating in the nuclear destruction of two of them?
Odd you ignore the millions of people suffering under an even more brutal regime in IRAN now!
That of course goes against your narrative.
You ignore the millions of people that did not have to deal with a full-scale invasion of Japan or that the Japanese had literally told women and children American GI's would rape and murder them.
Or how the Japanese treated anyone who fell under their power.
Japanese cruelty was legendary.
Nor are you dealing with the reality that a bombing campaign would cause ANYWHERE they dropped them in to burn they made their houses from wood and paper.
Even more telling you ignore Japan's own attempts at the bomb both their army and navy tried to make one and came fairly close but of course Jap nukes are somehow safer and saner had they actually succeeded in making them.
Or that infamous order that the remaining Japanese should fight with sharpened bamboo sticks to the last Japanese person in Japan called operation downfall.
Seems you like to argue the same tired bullshit forever but never actually learn much.
/ROLLS EYES
Easy! Just desserts!
Good thinking.
Hope youтАЩre right.
USAID is nothing compared to AIPAC that has TrumpтАЩs balls in a basket in Israel.
Pick on the big boys in the MIC if you want to address the real Deep State.
Watch Hegseth, he is the key.
Right. Hegseth will pluck the low-hanging fruit (LGBTQ+) but will quietly bite a pillow while AIPAC rams him from behind.
Phil out of the 20 top lobbies in DC AIPAC is 19th on the list.
Why do you ignore the 19 that precede ot in size?
Because AIPAC lobbies for a foreign government while refusing to register as a foreign government lobby.
Because every member of Congress has an AIPAC "handler." No other lobby has such sway.
Because I don't believe that there are truly 18 lobbies that "top" AIPAC.
Because Trump took $100M from Mariam Adelson that was AIPAC money without counting in your list.
That's just quickly off the top of my head.
Israel runs DC. Sad but true.
Because he is a Jew hating marxist.
Found another (((one)))
Boom!ЁЯСНЁЯТе
Palis out! The Temple is rebuilt. The Antichrist manifests. John worships him.
Who is your Anti-Christ this year?
Trump? He's the one you're worshiping anyway.
Are rapidly identifying yourself as anti-American, actually anti-everything entity. Socialist, Hitler, Germany first, you are labeled.
We have known that about screwy lough for years nothing new there.
Stop drinking the bong water dumbass.
USAID, AIPAC, MICтАжtake your pick. They ALL donтАЩt hold America First.
ЁЯСНhttps://www.trackaipac.com/
That would be 52nd, after Canada.
The Empire Expands The Inexhaustible Hegemony.
I agree with you on this. I love what Trump is doing so far, but his idea about Gaza is so bad that I can only hope that it's only some type of negotiating tool. Another bad idea I keep hearing from Trump is about establishing a federal bitcoin reserve. I hope he comes to his senses on these two things.
"I can only hope that it's only some type of negotiating tool"
It is.
Said it before, I'll say it again: he's basically telling the jews and Arabs "get your shit together, or Big Bad Uncle Sam is going to barge in."
Trump is all about asking for way more than he expects to get, in order to achieve desired outcomes. Brilliant.
The Golden Pager. Bibi can call him anytime he starts to get out of line.
How many Americans will die trying to remove the ferocious Palis from Gaza?
Now it's being said that the golden pager contains a listening device. Trump was also gifted a regular pager, btw.
I can tell you they run bug trackers through all the spaces in the whitehouse.
All of them.
But who watches the Watchers? Who are they loyal to? America or Israel? Do you even recognize a difference?
Now as to that question one would hope they are loyal to the US of course.
In this current time if they voted democrat ever, I would suspect them of all sorts of bad shit.
Interesting take, Astera. I think there is some logic in what you are saying.
You are right. In Adm. #1, he tried to assist them in тАЬgetting their shit togetherтАЭ with the Abraham accords. It almost worked, even with Biden. The accords were going to be signed and Oct. 7 happened, the response by Iran to stop the process of pacification of the ME. Iran stands for one thing, the Mullahs anyway, and that is violence and war. Bibi , IMO, gave up too soon, again caving to world opinion and the USA to NOT wipe out Hamas. Ceasefires have been a joke for 70 years, just another pause to allow Iran to re-arm Hamas and Hezbollah. I hope that Israel closed down those southern tunnels to prevent the transportation of weaponry into Gaza.
In the meantime, here are all the Dems pushing to just let things go as they have. It fits the mold, expecting different results over and over. Insanity!
Just like socialism, the perennial failure.
SSL, is this you? If yes, a hearty "hello my dear" from the Heckler.
Marlin, Nova, I believe.
Oops! Thanks JAZ. My apologies to Astera.
No need to apologize, i take it as a compliment. Hello to you too!
That's Jar folks.
No. Jarek is Lugh.
Astera is Nova.
Stop fucking around, Jarek. I'm me and that's it.
Hi me. Where you also me back on Clusterfuck?
HavenтАЩt you figured out that Lugh, Jarek is a devilтАЩs advocate, he will counter anything that is American in nature and what is the current drift of the blog. He has been that way longer than I have been on the blog which is quite awhile. He is an equal opportunity hater.
Janos - now I'm really confused.
Remember the song from Harold and Maude?
If you want to be me be me
If you want to be you be you
There's a million things to be
You know that there are.
What makes you, you? If I bought an Italian restaurant named Luigi's, kept the name and the wait staff, but served Chinese food, would it still be an Italian restaurant? What if you were the cook, cooking the Chinese food?
I'm with you James. We can no longer afford to spend money we don't have (debt) rebuilding war torn nations. This is a bad idea.
WE have the same two concerns.
It's basically the same as the CCP song, How I love to haul manure up the mountain to fulfill Mao's Dream. We need those hotels, Tony. More rich people have to get more rich at the expense of everyone.
He wants the USA to be the leader of a coalition of ME countries to stop fighting and start building up their area. Sorta like Dubai. The UAE has turned the desert into an international focus. To be able to stop the negative Hamas in Gaza and allow free access for development, Iran must be neutralized.
I do have a question for Trump, if he deports all the Palestinians to Arab lands, who is going to build the Gaza dream? Could he mean deport all the Hamas criminals, sorta like here.
Since the U.N. and a vast majority of countries in the General Assembly recognize Palestine along pre-1967 borders (U.N.Resolution 242), the Palestinian people own Gaza and the West Bank plus East Jerusalem. It is their property and for them to decide who re-builds it.
It is their legal trillions in LNG off the Gaza coast.
The Palestinians need new elections and perhaps all the Palestinians exiled to Lebanon would choose to return? Hamas would win an election in a landslide.
I would like to see China/Russia come in to Gaza to rebuild how ever the Palestinian people choose. Russia could handle the LNG deposits and the proceeds would make Palestine a very rich state.
New hospitals, schools, universities, homes, shops. This is what they deserve for enduring 70 years of living in the largest open-air concentration camp on Earth.
Trump needs a weekend at Camp David with Professor Jeffery Sachs, Col. MacGregor, Larry Johnson etc. to receive an honest tutorial on the history of the region. Throw in an hour on the 1953 CIA coup of the democratically elected leader of Iran to тАШsplain to Mr. Trump why Iran has hated the U.S. over decades.
Then pray he goes back to The White House with his head on straight and starts whistling a different tune.
The people of Iran DO NOT hate the USA, the Islamic government does. The Mullahs are just barely holding on to power from election to election. There is a large secular movement there that is being clobbered by the Islamic government, but not for long.
"It is their property and for them to decide who re-builds it"? Or who blows it up? Russia could handle the LNG deposits? So why haven't they? Or China? How come Trump has been the only world leader to express a desire to help the Gaza people, instead of re-arming them? It would be nice if new hospitals and schools would be built as something other than a cover for rockets, missiles and weaponry so the Iran proxies can raise hell.
"the Palestinian people own Gaza and the West Bank plus East Jerusalem"
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Iron rule # 1 in geopolitics:
"The strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must"
~Thucydides, Athenian general circa 400 bc.
Nope. He specified "all" and defined that to be 1.7M or 1.8M devastated souls.
Forced relocations of people never go well. Just ask the Cherokee.
"Israel" now demands that Ireland and Spain take them for daring to call what they're doing genocide. All good men are against "Israel"! Even many Jews.
So? Are you a good man? Or just another overblown ego?
Greater Israel's not going to survive without bringing in millions of Black Africans. Considering their long involvement in the slave trade, this is simply the right thing to do and the world must demand it.