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You have pointed out one form of underhanded welfare. The biggest is Social Security for disabilities. Lawyers figuring out ways to get disability for people who have been thrown out of the economy have exploded in numbers.

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My understanding of SS for disability: it has to be near 100% disability.

In other words, no working

I'm sure there are some with real permanent disabilities who fit this definition.

Am also sure the system can be gamed. Why not? Gaming the system has become a way of life for quite a few.

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RE: SS disability-- in the past, it was not that difficult to get, IF you had a lawyer.

Neighbor had an adult son who was married, had two kids but worked. He was dyslexic, and possibly had ADHD. But he held a job for many years, and then went to government sponsored Janitor School. And worked. The parents decided that they didn't want to support him all his life, so they got a doctor to claim he was bipolar. He was rejected for SSI, and then, voila! He got a lawyer and got approved.

FYI, he's not disabled and very likely isn't bipolar. Just lazy.

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Having looked at programs like this, admittedly quite a few years ago, I had a difficult time understanding why anyone would want the level of intrusion, surveillance, and loss of freedom as major side benefits of such programs.

Yet, over the course of a career, I regualrly saw people welcomingly submit to this government instrusion in order to receive 'benefits' at the expense of personal freedom/liberty.

We have been reaping the 'benefits' of these programs sown over the past few decades, to the point of national detriment.

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It's going to come to a swift and harsh end. Why? Because there isn't any money anymore. The money is gone. Poof! Vanished. There is no money. Nothing. Nada. Bupkiss. Like JHK said, we are getting to the point where we can't even service that debt anymore. The tipping point is near.

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Yup!

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gaming the system starts at the top.

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