Just a reminder, Ben, that I'm an anarchist. I can't stress that enough.
So the State, such as the State of Israel, is illegitimate-- right off the bat. So any argument for it is pretty much irrelevant. And let's not conflate it with any more 'Israels' than we need to.
If you/we want Israel to be another kind of Israel, a…
Just a reminder, Ben, that I'm an anarchist. I can't stress that enough.
So the State, such as the State of Israel, is illegitimate-- right off the bat. So any argument for it is pretty much irrelevant. And let's not conflate it with any more 'Israels' than we need to.
If you/we want Israel to be another kind of Israel, a Stateless one, an organic/grassroots, historically-/religiously-appropriate one, say, and something that's not crutched-- 'USAided'-- by coerced tax hostages of another State, or States, and their MICs, oceans away, then we might be onto something. The Palestinians, etc., might even agree.
As for the Middle East and its current status, well, let's just say it's gotten an unfair shake (sheik?) such as by your ostensible state's illegal war in Iraq for but one example, to say nothing of all its other excursions/incursions in and around the area. And it's a lot easier to talk big when one is on the other side of the business end of a gun.
You keep trashing the people in the general area but seem rather blinkered when it comes to your own State's transgressions, at least in that context.
There are plenty of Jews happily and peacefully living their lives around the world like the rest of us...
They need Israel and special treatment like they need a hole in the head.
Same thing according to your own ridiculous narrative your country was founded on conquering, murdering, rounding up and putting the indigenous people into concentration camps which I might add continues to this day.
What a shame you can't apply the same opinion to your own situation which of course makes you an utter hypocrite.
The National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls concluded in its 2019 final report that the Canadian state has perpetrated genocide against Indigenous peoples. This genocide is the underlying cause of the contemporary murders and disappearances of Indigenous women and girls.
This conclusion was “inescapable” for the commissioners and for thousands of Indigenous people across the country. But as the lead author of the inquiry’s legal analysis of genocide, I know personally how denial and disbelief dominated the reactions of the mainstream media in Canada and of many non-Indigenous people in Canada that amounted to: “A genocide in Canada? Surely not!”
Then came the stunning news — the remains of 215 children found on the grounds of a former residential school in Kamloops, B.C. It seems like the type of mass graves commonly found at sites where genocide took place.
Canadians are beginning to be able to contemplate what for many Indigenous people is a given: Canada committed genocide. But, as academic Joanna R. Quinn said in a recent article for The Conversation: “The residential school system was also one among many systems of violences and harms. Residential schools represent the tip of the iceberg.”
It’s now especially important to recall some of the legal underpinnings of the use of the term genocide in the Canadian context. Many myths and misunderstandings dominate the public discourse, hindering informed discussion on this subject that is so important to the future of our nations.
...is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be 'attacking a straw man'. " ~ Wikipedia
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To echo my point in this subthread, if you keep using fallacies (etc.) to 'support' Israel, you aren't actually supporting Israel. ('With friends like you, who needs enemies?')
I've deleted two or three of my comments that I allowed to go beyond my specific points above. Let them serve with, and as exemplified by, your typical trollish garbage, as placeholders for what to avoid.
'Fool me once, shame on me.'
I'm a willing fool for some things, but not if it subverts what I wrote above.
~ USAided Israel ~
Just a reminder, Ben, that I'm an anarchist. I can't stress that enough.
So the State, such as the State of Israel, is illegitimate-- right off the bat. So any argument for it is pretty much irrelevant. And let's not conflate it with any more 'Israels' than we need to.
If you/we want Israel to be another kind of Israel, a Stateless one, an organic/grassroots, historically-/religiously-appropriate one, say, and something that's not crutched-- 'USAided'-- by coerced tax hostages of another State, or States, and their MICs, oceans away, then we might be onto something. The Palestinians, etc., might even agree.
As for the Middle East and its current status, well, let's just say it's gotten an unfair shake (sheik?) such as by your ostensible state's illegal war in Iraq for but one example, to say nothing of all its other excursions/incursions in and around the area. And it's a lot easier to talk big when one is on the other side of the business end of a gun.
You keep trashing the people in the general area but seem rather blinkered when it comes to your own State's transgressions, at least in that context.
There are plenty of Jews happily and peacefully living their lives around the world like the rest of us...
They need Israel and special treatment like they need a hole in the head.
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List Of Jewish Anarchists
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_anarchists
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youtu.be/HK_gM0WFAeU?si=qhOGlt0MjheWVbLv
"Whirlpools whirl
Dragnets drag
Hell is not the fire
Hell is your belief
In yourself as the higher..."
You should really just shut up now genocider we don't even want remotely the same thing, and I can't stress that enough.
Another insipid post from the guy claiming some non-Existent victory.
Can you be any more delusional?
Let me answer that.
No Ben I believe in mankind's kindness and ability to sort shit out without government, laws or anything resembling society.
Yeah, like I said delusional.
Another long-winded diatribe full of opinion.
Same thing according to your own ridiculous narrative your country was founded on conquering, murdering, rounding up and putting the indigenous people into concentration camps which I might add continues to this day.
What a shame you can't apply the same opinion to your own situation which of course makes you an utter hypocrite.
The National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls concluded in its 2019 final report that the Canadian state has perpetrated genocide against Indigenous peoples. This genocide is the underlying cause of the contemporary murders and disappearances of Indigenous women and girls.
This conclusion was “inescapable” for the commissioners and for thousands of Indigenous people across the country. But as the lead author of the inquiry’s legal analysis of genocide, I know personally how denial and disbelief dominated the reactions of the mainstream media in Canada and of many non-Indigenous people in Canada that amounted to: “A genocide in Canada? Surely not!”
Then came the stunning news — the remains of 215 children found on the grounds of a former residential school in Kamloops, B.C. It seems like the type of mass graves commonly found at sites where genocide took place.
Canadians are beginning to be able to contemplate what for many Indigenous people is a given: Canada committed genocide. But, as academic Joanna R. Quinn said in a recent article for The Conversation: “The residential school system was also one among many systems of violences and harms. Residential schools represent the tip of the iceberg.”
It’s now especially important to recall some of the legal underpinnings of the use of the term genocide in the Canadian context. Many myths and misunderstandings dominate the public discourse, hindering informed discussion on this subject that is so important to the future of our nations.
^^ "A straw man fallacy...
...is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be 'attacking a straw man'. " ~ Wikipedia
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To echo my point in this subthread, if you keep using fallacies (etc.) to 'support' Israel, you aren't actually supporting Israel. ('With friends like you, who needs enemies?')
^^ stupid post which is spawned by the guy who has no real argument.
Dismissed for extreme stupidity.
Another delusional post from a guy that probably doesn't even wear boots.
Go back to sucking your thumb and dreaming of being someone that actually has a clue about anything.
Anarchist code word for clueless and Strange is another word for Queer.
Queer is your constant reference to my ass and your virtual boot.
This appears to be an ongoing fantasy queer bedfellow.
I suspect you have rainbows shooting out of your ass so leave me out of your depraved fantasies.
I've deleted two or three of my comments that I allowed to go beyond my specific points above. Let them serve with, and as exemplified by, your typical trollish garbage, as placeholders for what to avoid.
'Fool me once, shame on me.'
I'm a willing fool for some things, but not if it subverts what I wrote above.
Almost an admission of wrongdoing good for you.
I am fine with them but prefer to stick with and honour my main points above, which of course I linked to as well.
Oh of course you linked to them because...no one here can go a day without your pithy and wrong opinions.
My God your ego is even bigger than Phils.
Happy trolling, Ben. I will resist my weakness for feeding it. 'u'