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No argument, Lugh. The real world question though is who should be the “Umpire”. Certainly not any form of government, the source of all Babylonian evil. So who? Another way of looking at it, who is the Umpire for the three groups running the US government? Who has the final say?

Answers? The free market of pure capitalism and God. IMHO.

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Ridiculous. God will sit back and let us destroy ourselves. He works through Men willing to take on the Plutocrats.

The Founders utterly rejected the Libertarian vision. As does Ron Paul.

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