Yes, they fight back, sometimes effectively. As when they crushed the Israeli invasion of Lebanon a generation ago. What's happening this time? There's a news blackout, so I imagine the Israeli invasion has stalled out.
In Iraq, Iranian missiles destroyed various nests of anti-Iranian terrorists.
Another excellent essay by Mr. Kunstler this week which cites names of people and entities and money.
I like it, though I have lamented, and continue to lament, the lack of objectivity and facts regarding Palestine in CFN essays. Just think, if Mr. Kunstler lifted the carpet and shone his (still, at his age) formidable journalistic spotlight on the crimes of the Israeli state against Palestinians, and even the several ISRAELIS, military and civilian, which the IDF deliberately killed on OCT 07, to ensure they were not captured by Hamas. I repeat my request for JHK to host Max Blumenthal on a Kunstlercast.
I did not plan to bring the topic up, since EPA is not related to Palestine.
However, since Ben is going to loudly bray about the splinter in Iran's eye, vs the LOG in Israel's, I want to share a real story that the US media, mainstream and alternative, has quietly not reported.
All you CFNers can bet your a$$ that if two Jews or Israelis were gunned down in the US, Drudge and MSN, etc, would be all over it. Isn't that right?
Well, two Israelis were WERE gunned down, in Miami, on Feb 16, according to The Guardian (w..theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/17/miami-shooting-israeli-men). Seventeen shots fired at them. The Israelis survived! They took to Facebook to whine about anti-Semitism.
Yet I heard or read nothing, Why? Because the alleged perpetrator, one Mordechai Brafman, 27, is Jewish.
While in custody, Brafman spontaneously told detectives that while he was driving his truck, тАЬhe saw two Palestinians and shot and killed bothтАЭ, arrest documents said.
A lot of people (correctly) point out media bias concerning crime-non-white defendants' race or ethnicity is painted out. Even though statistically black-on-white crime is far more common than white-on-black, wee you know.
That's how it is with the Middle East. Israel is perfect, even as Israelis slaughter tens of thousands of Palestinians, and displace millions, but Iran is the aggressor and threat to peace. according to the media and some here.
Nope they are fighting a war which includes killing people even sometimes people that should not have died but that is the problem with fighting wars good people die along with the badies.
That is how wars are fought or are you just stupid?
To my knowledge Israelis are not kidnapping and then strangling babies.
Nor are they having parties while returning dead babies.
"To my knowledge Israelis are not kidnapping and then strangling babies." ~ Ben
Israelis don't have to if they're bombing and shooting them.
"Nor are they having parties while returning dead babies." ~ Ben
Israel's 'party' is in their apparently much higher baby-kill ratio and big bags of chips on the tax-pimped dime from Uncle Sam.
See what I mean? It's in that style of Israel-Palestine tit-for-tat without end.
But Palestine has a better position and standing, despite the Israel Lobby, its media and other captured US institutions, and perhaps as comments, such as your ill-conceived ones here, would seem to suggest.
Maybe keep your eyes on March 4th., when the parasite State politicians-- maybe cut from a similar cloth to the ones responsible for creating Israel in the first place-- are supposed to meet somewhere nearby (Qatar?) to discuss this catastrophic issue that shouldn't have started in the first place, eighty years ago.
Israel, as a manufactured State construct, is in the wrong neighborhood. We'll see what comes out of that March 4rth. meeting and what they do with the squat that is Israel.
Name a country in the middle east not carved out with little regard for the crazy tribal morons that live there.
Hint look for the straight lines.
I will wait.
Jews are as middle eastern as anything living there today including the Egyptians, Syrians and Jordanians that now call themselves Palestinians as fake and made up a group of people as any other group calling the ME home.
We got another Hamas lover in the group, do we?
While we are on subject of don't belong there is not a Muslim in North America, South America and Europe that belongs, they should all kick rocks back on over to the sand box!
Or does that only apply to dirty JooOOOooooos in the middle east?
Israel has existed in the middle east for thousands of years much longer than Islam and its history is rich with people kicking sand in their faces and eventually losing.
No difference here they are just too damn stubborn.
Just a reminder, Ben, that I'm an anarchist. I can't stress that enough.
So the State, such as the State of Israel, is illegitimate-- right off the bat. So any argument for it is pretty much irrelevant. And let's not conflate it with any more 'Israels' than we need to.
If you/we want Israel to be another kind of Israel, a Stateless one, an organic/grassroots, historically-/religiously-appropriate one, say, and something that's not crutched-- 'USAided'-- by coerced tax hostages of another State, or States, and their MICs, oceans away, then we might be onto something. The Palestinians, etc., might even agree.
As for the Middle East and its current status, well, let's just say it's gotten an unfair shake (sheik?) such as by your ostensible state's illegal war in Iraq for but one example, to say nothing of all its other excursions/incursions in and around the area. And it's a lot easier to talk big when one is on the other side of the business end of a gun.
You keep trashing the people in the general area but seem rather blinkered when it comes to your own State's transgressions, at least in that context.
There are plenty of Jews happily and peacefully living their lives around the world like the rest of us...
They need Israel and special treatment like they need a hole in the head.
Same thing according to your own ridiculous narrative your country was founded on conquering, murdering, rounding up and putting the indigenous people into concentration camps which I might add continues to this day.
What a shame you can't apply the same opinion to your own situation which of course makes you an utter hypocrite.
The National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls concluded in its 2019 final report that the Canadian state has perpetrated genocide against Indigenous peoples. This genocide is the underlying cause of the contemporary murders and disappearances of Indigenous women and girls.
This conclusion was тАЬinescapableтАЭ for the commissioners and for thousands of Indigenous people across the country. But as the lead author of the inquiryтАЩs legal analysis of genocide, I know personally how denial and disbelief dominated the reactions of the mainstream media in Canada and of many non-Indigenous people in Canada that amounted to: тАЬA genocide in Canada? Surely not!тАЭ
Then came the stunning news тАФ the remains of 215 children found on the grounds of a former residential school in Kamloops, B.C. It seems like the type of mass graves commonly found at sites where genocide took place.
Canadians are beginning to be able to contemplate what for many Indigenous people is a given: Canada committed genocide. But, as academic Joanna R. Quinn said in a recent article for The Conversation: тАЬThe residential school system was also one among many systems of violences and harms. Residential schools represent the tip of the iceberg.тАЭ
ItтАЩs now especially important to recall some of the legal underpinnings of the use of the term genocide in the Canadian context. Many myths and misunderstandings dominate the public discourse, hindering informed discussion on this subject that is so important to the future of our nations.
...is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be 'attacking a straw man'. " ~ Wikipedia
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To echo my point in this subthread, if you keep using fallacies (etc.) to 'support' Israel, you aren't actually supporting Israel. ('With friends like you, who needs enemies?')
I don't know about the story, nor do I care one way or the other but if he walked up and killed people without cause then he will have a trial and go to jail.
No different that anyone else in 'Murica except all the illegal aliens committing crimes and just being deported.
After 75 years they got squatters rights but you should go back to Europe and give your property to the nearest Indian tribe in Canada you are after all nothing but a dirty squatter on stolen Indian land.
Canada, it's history, and I and my family and our history are very different from, and irrelevant to, the Israel-Palestine issue we're discussing.
Again, if those Statists and Zionists setting up Israel in 1948 knew then of the problems or potential problems with the area, whether historically or at the time, they were abjectly irresponsible, to put it mildly perhaps.
Even the commentariat over at JHK's old homesite were expressing concern about the unusual increase in immigration into the US during the past four years or so. Getting them back out was part of Trump's election platform. So why would or should the Palestinians feel much different about 1948, onward?
Anyway, and as I've also mentioned, the Israel-Palestine issue appears as a bit of a distraction from America's (et al's) possible energy interests in the region. In that sense, it appears that Israel is being used as a combination panopticon and base-station/foothold. I've already previously posted a link or two on the energy reserves off the coast of Gaza and in and around the area.
Wars are often, if not always, fundamentally about land and resources.
Look at that Phil got a like.
Good for you some idiot clicked your likey button glow in the dopemine hit.
Hey Phil in order for a war to happen the other side needs to give cause.
Manufactured cause could happen, but many people have finally caught onto those kinds of dirty tricks.
Iran has also directly engaged in bombing the shit out of women and Children twice now but again this clod ignores this simple fact.
Never mind technology rendered their attack toothless they tried and their best effort was pretty pathetic.
As has Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen and just yesterday Hamas in Israel.
War happens, murder happens, kidnappings happen the other side engages in all this is it to just be ignored and for how long?
You really are a special kind of stupid.
I have had Iranian tech shot at the ship I was riding last August and again in November by the Iran backed Houthis.
Never mind their tech is so bad the actual missile landed in the next time zone we still got painted with Infrared and launched at.
Their pathetic drones got shot down at least five miles out.
Iran arms and funds them.
Iran is directly involved in proxy wars and is threatening all-out war if anyone targets their efforts to build nuclear devices.
Yes, they fight back, sometimes effectively. As when they crushed the Israeli invasion of Lebanon a generation ago. What's happening this time? There's a news blackout, so I imagine the Israeli invasion has stalled out.
In Iraq, Iranian missiles destroyed various nests of anti-Iranian terrorists.
Another excellent essay by Mr. Kunstler this week which cites names of people and entities and money.
I like it, though I have lamented, and continue to lament, the lack of objectivity and facts regarding Palestine in CFN essays. Just think, if Mr. Kunstler lifted the carpet and shone his (still, at his age) formidable journalistic spotlight on the crimes of the Israeli state against Palestinians, and even the several ISRAELIS, military and civilian, which the IDF deliberately killed on OCT 07, to ensure they were not captured by Hamas. I repeat my request for JHK to host Max Blumenthal on a Kunstlercast.
I did not plan to bring the topic up, since EPA is not related to Palestine.
However, since Ben is going to loudly bray about the splinter in Iran's eye, vs the LOG in Israel's, I want to share a real story that the US media, mainstream and alternative, has quietly not reported.
All you CFNers can bet your a$$ that if two Jews or Israelis were gunned down in the US, Drudge and MSN, etc, would be all over it. Isn't that right?
Well, two Israelis were WERE gunned down, in Miami, on Feb 16, according to The Guardian (w..theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/17/miami-shooting-israeli-men). Seventeen shots fired at them. The Israelis survived! They took to Facebook to whine about anti-Semitism.
Yet I heard or read nothing, Why? Because the alleged perpetrator, one Mordechai Brafman, 27, is Jewish.
While in custody, Brafman spontaneously told detectives that while he was driving his truck, тАЬhe saw two Palestinians and shot and killed bothтАЭ, arrest documents said.
A lot of people (correctly) point out media bias concerning crime-non-white defendants' race or ethnicity is painted out. Even though statistically black-on-white crime is far more common than white-on-black, wee you know.
That's how it is with the Middle East. Israel is perfect, even as Israelis slaughter tens of thousands of Palestinians, and displace millions, but Iran is the aggressor and threat to peace. according to the media and some here.
Another one to busy covering for the mullahs.
Do they cut you a check or are you just a shite ass licker?
May God bless you with wisdom.
Lugh are you stupid enough to believe Iran is the good guy in all this?
There are no good guys engaged in the Middle East right now everyone over there is doing something bad.
At last you admit Israel is committing atrocities?
Nope they are fighting a war which includes killing people even sometimes people that should not have died but that is the problem with fighting wars good people die along with the badies.
That is how wars are fought or are you just stupid?
To my knowledge Israelis are not kidnapping and then strangling babies.
Nor are they having parties while returning dead babies.
~ The Ill-Conceived Israeli Squat ~
"To my knowledge Israelis are not kidnapping and then strangling babies." ~ Ben
Israelis don't have to if they're bombing and shooting them.
"Nor are they having parties while returning dead babies." ~ Ben
Israel's 'party' is in their apparently much higher baby-kill ratio and big bags of chips on the tax-pimped dime from Uncle Sam.
See what I mean? It's in that style of Israel-Palestine tit-for-tat without end.
But Palestine has a better position and standing, despite the Israel Lobby, its media and other captured US institutions, and perhaps as comments, such as your ill-conceived ones here, would seem to suggest.
Maybe keep your eyes on March 4th., when the parasite State politicians-- maybe cut from a similar cloth to the ones responsible for creating Israel in the first place-- are supposed to meet somewhere nearby (Qatar?) to discuss this catastrophic issue that shouldn't have started in the first place, eighty years ago.
Israel, as a manufactured State construct, is in the wrong neighborhood. We'll see what comes out of that March 4rth. meeting and what they do with the squat that is Israel.
Hey smart guy.
Name a country in the middle east not carved out with little regard for the crazy tribal morons that live there.
Hint look for the straight lines.
I will wait.
Jews are as middle eastern as anything living there today including the Egyptians, Syrians and Jordanians that now call themselves Palestinians as fake and made up a group of people as any other group calling the ME home.
We got another Hamas lover in the group, do we?
While we are on subject of don't belong there is not a Muslim in North America, South America and Europe that belongs, they should all kick rocks back on over to the sand box!
Or does that only apply to dirty JooOOOooooos in the middle east?
Israel has existed in the middle east for thousands of years much longer than Islam and its history is rich with people kicking sand in their faces and eventually losing.
No difference here they are just too damn stubborn.
~ USAided Israel ~
Just a reminder, Ben, that I'm an anarchist. I can't stress that enough.
So the State, such as the State of Israel, is illegitimate-- right off the bat. So any argument for it is pretty much irrelevant. And let's not conflate it with any more 'Israels' than we need to.
If you/we want Israel to be another kind of Israel, a Stateless one, an organic/grassroots, historically-/religiously-appropriate one, say, and something that's not crutched-- 'USAided'-- by coerced tax hostages of another State, or States, and their MICs, oceans away, then we might be onto something. The Palestinians, etc., might even agree.
As for the Middle East and its current status, well, let's just say it's gotten an unfair shake (sheik?) such as by your ostensible state's illegal war in Iraq for but one example, to say nothing of all its other excursions/incursions in and around the area. And it's a lot easier to talk big when one is on the other side of the business end of a gun.
You keep trashing the people in the general area but seem rather blinkered when it comes to your own State's transgressions, at least in that context.
There are plenty of Jews happily and peacefully living their lives around the world like the rest of us...
They need Israel and special treatment like they need a hole in the head.
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List Of Jewish Anarchists
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_anarchists
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youtu.be/HK_gM0WFAeU?si=qhOGlt0MjheWVbLv
"Whirlpools whirl
Dragnets drag
Hell is not the fire
Hell is your belief
In yourself as the higher..."
You should really just shut up now genocider we don't even want remotely the same thing, and I can't stress that enough.
Another insipid post from the guy claiming some non-Existent victory.
Can you be any more delusional?
Let me answer that.
No Ben I believe in mankind's kindness and ability to sort shit out without government, laws or anything resembling society.
Yeah, like I said delusional.
Another long-winded diatribe full of opinion.
Same thing according to your own ridiculous narrative your country was founded on conquering, murdering, rounding up and putting the indigenous people into concentration camps which I might add continues to this day.
What a shame you can't apply the same opinion to your own situation which of course makes you an utter hypocrite.
The National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls concluded in its 2019 final report that the Canadian state has perpetrated genocide against Indigenous peoples. This genocide is the underlying cause of the contemporary murders and disappearances of Indigenous women and girls.
This conclusion was тАЬinescapableтАЭ for the commissioners and for thousands of Indigenous people across the country. But as the lead author of the inquiryтАЩs legal analysis of genocide, I know personally how denial and disbelief dominated the reactions of the mainstream media in Canada and of many non-Indigenous people in Canada that amounted to: тАЬA genocide in Canada? Surely not!тАЭ
Then came the stunning news тАФ the remains of 215 children found on the grounds of a former residential school in Kamloops, B.C. It seems like the type of mass graves commonly found at sites where genocide took place.
Canadians are beginning to be able to contemplate what for many Indigenous people is a given: Canada committed genocide. But, as academic Joanna R. Quinn said in a recent article for The Conversation: тАЬThe residential school system was also one among many systems of violences and harms. Residential schools represent the tip of the iceberg.тАЭ
ItтАЩs now especially important to recall some of the legal underpinnings of the use of the term genocide in the Canadian context. Many myths and misunderstandings dominate the public discourse, hindering informed discussion on this subject that is so important to the future of our nations.
^^ "A straw man fallacy...
...is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be 'attacking a straw man'. " ~ Wikipedia
____
To echo my point in this subthread, if you keep using fallacies (etc.) to 'support' Israel, you aren't actually supporting Israel. ('With friends like you, who needs enemies?')
^^ stupid post which is spawned by the guy who has no real argument.
Dismissed for extreme stupidity.
Is Mordecai Bronfman your new hero? Are you related?
https://www.kunstler.com/p/funny-money/comment/95744459
https://www.kunstler.com/p/funny-money/comment/95773959
https://www.kunstler.com/p/funny-money/comment/95776810
Is being a moron your new pass time?
I don't know about the story, nor do I care one way or the other but if he walked up and killed people without cause then he will have a trial and go to jail.
No different that anyone else in 'Murica except all the illegal aliens committing crimes and just being deported.
https://www.kunstler.com/p/funny-money/comment/95744459
https://www.kunstler.com/p/funny-money/comment/95773959
https://www.kunstler.com/p/funny-money/comment/95776810
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"There are no good guys engaged in the Middle East right now everyone over there is doing something bad." ~ Ben
What about in 1948?
After 75 years they got squatters rights but you should go back to Europe and give your property to the nearest Indian tribe in Canada you are after all nothing but a dirty squatter on stolen Indian land.
There you go again with a red herring.
Canada, it's history, and I and my family and our history are very different from, and irrelevant to, the Israel-Palestine issue we're discussing.
Again, if those Statists and Zionists setting up Israel in 1948 knew then of the problems or potential problems with the area, whether historically or at the time, they were abjectly irresponsible, to put it mildly perhaps.
Even the commentariat over at JHK's old homesite were expressing concern about the unusual increase in immigration into the US during the past four years or so. Getting them back out was part of Trump's election platform. So why would or should the Palestinians feel much different about 1948, onward?
Anyway, and as I've also mentioned, the Israel-Palestine issue appears as a bit of a distraction from America's (et al's) possible energy interests in the region. In that sense, it appears that Israel is being used as a combination panopticon and base-station/foothold. I've already previously posted a link or two on the energy reserves off the coast of Gaza and in and around the area.
Wars are often, if not always, fundamentally about land and resources.