Anyone who thinks the war in Ukraine will be contained in that country is delusional. It is already clear that Putin cannot achieve his objectives via a limited military operation in the Donbas. He will eventually have to take Kiev and remove the present Ukrainian government, which he is loath to do and which would transform that war int…
Anyone who thinks the war in Ukraine will be contained in that country is delusional. It is already clear that Putin cannot achieve his objectives via a limited military operation in the Donbas. He will eventually have to take Kiev and remove the present Ukrainian government, which he is loath to do and which would transform that war into something completely different.
In the meantime, NATO is determined to put boots on the ground in Ukraine. It is likely that Viktor Orban will be assassinated to grease the skids for Ukraine's admission to NATO. At that point, we are looking directly down the muzzle of WWIII. Russia will lose that war, but it will take the entire rest of the western world down with it.
My recommendation? Find a nice, out-of-the-way place to live, preferably in South America. This situation is out of your hands, but your response to it is not.
I don't believe Russia or Putin is evil. I believe they have their own best interests at heart. Russia has not been an aggressor, but has been protecting itself very well (and smartly) from the west. If the west goes down, it is its own fault.
I don't disagree at all. I think the Russian and Greek Orthodox churches are the only real authentic Christians, anymore. That is why they are under attack.
I have been a lover of Russian literature my entire life, thanks to my late dad (who was of Polish descent). And right now I'm reading "Brothers Karamazov" and Dostoyevsky's complex wrangling with all aspects of Christianity is fascinating.
C.S. Lewis gets it right, as a "westerner," but he also was trusting of western Christianity whereas I am not.
So you assume that Putin wants Ukraine as his very own? If that were the case, would he have stood by and watched the us build chemical weapons factories on his border? Would he have watch us do to Ukraine what we did? I’m pretty sure Putin just wants to be left alone, like any good conservative. Think about the patience of that man.
Not what I said at all. In fact, just the opposite. Russia would be happy to annex the predominantly Russian-speaking Donbas republics and secure Crimea and be done with it.
But with continued flow of armaments from Europe and the US into the Ukraine, the west will not allow Russia to succeed in its stated objectives. So Russia has a choice -- abandon the Donbas Republics and Crimea, which would almost certainly result in a genocide of the Russian-speaking population there; or do what it takes to bring the war to a conclusion, which means bringing Ukraine to its knees. That would likely require either reducing Kiev to rubble or engaging in some extremely bloody street fighting. I'm pretty sure NATO will not allow that to happen. Nor will it stop supplying Ukraine with weapons.
So the die is cast now. This conflict is going to end in the deaths of millions if not billions of people. You might want to think about whether you want to be among them.
Russia!Russia!Russia! Seriously, Russia has plenty to deal with on it's own. Maybe it's time to leave 1950's diplomatic talking points where they belong. Russia is not the instigator, Putin finally REACTED.
One, could Russia build a defensive line on the East bank of the Dneiper River and be satisfied with that?
Two, do you honestly believe that Europe (NATO) could ever defeat Russia with boots on the ground, without the USA involvement?
A Russia looks south from Moscow today and sees Ukraine a few hundred miles to the south. If the river is the new boundary, as eastern Ukraine today is chock full of Russians, that person would see Russia to the south.
To the end of his days, Andrew Jackson was infuriated by people who talked derisively about the Battle of New Orleans, fought after the treaty had been signed. He said, Britain did not rise to world dominance by obeying treaties not in its favor. If they weren't defeated, they could have retained control of the Mississippi, quickly building a series of forts on the western side. They that would have been the border of the United States.
The war was an impasse to that point. Washington had been burned. but Baltimore saved itself at Fort McHenry, much to Francis Scott Key's delight. Most of the British sympathisizers had gone north to Canada. Canada had defended itself from zealous Americans. New orleans was necessary to show the British that their war making was obsolete and the US could kick the shit out of them. After NOLA, there were no more attempts to re-take America militarily.
For all I know, Russia would more than satisfied with that. Whether they can actually pull that off is another matter. I'm of the opinion that wherever the boundary is, it will be the position from which constant artillery barrages and drone swarms will be launched from the Ukrainian side.
Anyone who thinks the war in Ukraine will be contained in that country is delusional. It is already clear that Putin cannot achieve his objectives via a limited military operation in the Donbas. He will eventually have to take Kiev and remove the present Ukrainian government, which he is loath to do and which would transform that war into something completely different.
In the meantime, NATO is determined to put boots on the ground in Ukraine. It is likely that Viktor Orban will be assassinated to grease the skids for Ukraine's admission to NATO. At that point, we are looking directly down the muzzle of WWIII. Russia will lose that war, but it will take the entire rest of the western world down with it.
My recommendation? Find a nice, out-of-the-way place to live, preferably in South America. This situation is out of your hands, but your response to it is not.
I don't believe Russia or Putin is evil. I believe they have their own best interests at heart. Russia has not been an aggressor, but has been protecting itself very well (and smartly) from the west. If the west goes down, it is its own fault.
Russia is the last bastion of Christianity.
I don't disagree at all. I think the Russian and Greek Orthodox churches are the only real authentic Christians, anymore. That is why they are under attack.
I have been a lover of Russian literature my entire life, thanks to my late dad (who was of Polish descent). And right now I'm reading "Brothers Karamazov" and Dostoyevsky's complex wrangling with all aspects of Christianity is fascinating.
C.S. Lewis gets it right, as a "westerner," but he also was trusting of western Christianity whereas I am not.
So you assume that Putin wants Ukraine as his very own? If that were the case, would he have stood by and watched the us build chemical weapons factories on his border? Would he have watch us do to Ukraine what we did? I’m pretty sure Putin just wants to be left alone, like any good conservative. Think about the patience of that man.
Putin doesn't want Ukraine. He was satisfied with Crimea, until the West forced him to invade the Donbass.
I agree, how many times can we poke the bear?
Not what I said at all. In fact, just the opposite. Russia would be happy to annex the predominantly Russian-speaking Donbas republics and secure Crimea and be done with it.
But with continued flow of armaments from Europe and the US into the Ukraine, the west will not allow Russia to succeed in its stated objectives. So Russia has a choice -- abandon the Donbas Republics and Crimea, which would almost certainly result in a genocide of the Russian-speaking population there; or do what it takes to bring the war to a conclusion, which means bringing Ukraine to its knees. That would likely require either reducing Kiev to rubble or engaging in some extremely bloody street fighting. I'm pretty sure NATO will not allow that to happen. Nor will it stop supplying Ukraine with weapons.
So the die is cast now. This conflict is going to end in the deaths of millions if not billions of people. You might want to think about whether you want to be among them.
"...continued flow of armaments from Europe and the US into the Ukraine,..."
We're dropping in loads of land mines that look like softballs, that we had in Iraq.
Now, landmines that look like toys, or like patches of grass.
I think the NYT is doing its expose to instigate direct war between NATO/US-EU and Russia, not to mitigate it.
Extremely alarmist. Not gonna happen.
And so how do you see this playing out?
Advice sort of depends...like on one's age. I'm with Roseanna Barr, who succinctly said, "I play to die my way of this thing".
Russia!Russia!Russia! Seriously, Russia has plenty to deal with on it's own. Maybe it's time to leave 1950's diplomatic talking points where they belong. Russia is not the instigator, Putin finally REACTED.
Couple questions.
One, could Russia build a defensive line on the East bank of the Dneiper River and be satisfied with that?
Two, do you honestly believe that Europe (NATO) could ever defeat Russia with boots on the ground, without the USA involvement?
A Russia looks south from Moscow today and sees Ukraine a few hundred miles to the south. If the river is the new boundary, as eastern Ukraine today is chock full of Russians, that person would see Russia to the south.
To the end of his days, Andrew Jackson was infuriated by people who talked derisively about the Battle of New Orleans, fought after the treaty had been signed. He said, Britain did not rise to world dominance by obeying treaties not in its favor. If they weren't defeated, they could have retained control of the Mississippi, quickly building a series of forts on the western side. They that would have been the border of the United States.
The war was an impasse to that point. Washington had been burned. but Baltimore saved itself at Fort McHenry, much to Francis Scott Key's delight. Most of the British sympathisizers had gone north to Canada. Canada had defended itself from zealous Americans. New orleans was necessary to show the British that their war making was obsolete and the US could kick the shit out of them. After NOLA, there were no more attempts to re-take America militarily.
For all I know, Russia would more than satisfied with that. Whether they can actually pull that off is another matter. I'm of the opinion that wherever the boundary is, it will be the position from which constant artillery barrages and drone swarms will be launched from the Ukrainian side.
You are right, Ukraine has been bombarding the Russian separatists in the Donbas since 2014.
It'd make a very fine buffer zone.