JHK, the most amazing thing to me is the mentality of so many Californians...I know some of these folks who are oblivious to any type of conspiracy...One of my friends, while watching the gang style robbing of stores, looked at me and said the media was overblowing the situation?...And a few others who refused to accept that the Democrat…
JHK, the most amazing thing to me is the mentality of so many Californians...I know some of these folks who are oblivious to any type of conspiracy...One of my friends, while watching the gang style robbing of stores, looked at me and said the media was overblowing the situation?...And a few others who refused to accept that the Democratic leadership was at fault in any way...Brainwashed? I'm not sure as I know of many in New York city area who feel the same way...So I decided to do some digging and it is quite clear the impact of the Media (nothing new for many of us)...not so much the Main Stream Media but more so the internet media...Those who refuse to conduct their own research "settle" on websites that fit and support their way of thinking...hence the term "confirmation bias" was created to justify their refusal to accept any information that does not support their narrative...Laziness combined with a closed mind will be and has been their downfall...
The deeper the belief, the more contradictory it is to reality. The more contradictory, the harder it is to overcome. The logic is thus: If A =B, and B=C, then A=C.
BINGO! I think you captioned it perfectly, thank you. I grew up in L.A., lived in CA most of my 70 yrs of life but when numerous Californians I knew started acting exactly as you described, I just couldn't take it any more and left some years ago. I grew up in Hollywood Hills right under the Hollywood sign - it seems most Dem folks think they are living in Hollywood, complete with the fake scenery and Hollywood illusions, which they believe is real. My brother in law is the same way and there is simply no way to converse with him about most topics. Very frustrating and I have to wonder what will happen to these people when the day comes that they are smacked in the face with the truth?
They’ve been smacked in the face with a lot of truths:
Any friends or family die from the vax? Have they seen people suffering in North Carolina as they live in tents in the winter cold? Do they not know the covid virus didn’t come from a bat? Have they heard rumblings about stolen elections? I could go on for days. The truth is out there, as shiny and glaring as a headlamp. You have to literally contort your mind and body like a pretzel not to see it.
My point is, they don’t want to see the truth. They have created a beautiful California bubble to live in. They’re not going to let you pop it. My daughter does the same thing: airline pilot hubby, beautiful baby, happy home in a gorgeous New England state, great friends, a doodle dog, a European stroller and granite countertops. She will jump over my backyard fence and run away before hearing ONE MORE WORD about the downfall of America. She’ll pay $10 for a gallon of milk rather than ever, ever hear the truth. Even when the truth shows signs of dismantling her life; her little vaxed family is sick all of the time and she has a new autoimmune disease.
A therapist once told me that everything one does works for them in some way—they get something out of it, even if they’re a victim. All the people who cover their ears and eyes? What are they getting from their ignorance? A chance to continue living their lives, hoping not seeing the truth will give them another day in their bubble.
Very sorry about your daughter. Most of us have at least one family member that is hopelessly brainwashed.
Sadly, I think you are right that they know something is off about their reasoning, but they know that if they swallow the red pill they will no longer “fit in” with the cool kids. They can’t risk it. In many social circles being MAGA or being a “science denier on climate change” is worse than having leprosy. Better to stay in the bubble, unaware and virtue signal to the “right people”.
Your last sentence - I 100% agree. This is why, when you try to tell them the truth, they completely explode. They have the mentality of 2 year olds, when something happens they don't like, they put their hands over their eyes and say "it's not happening because I can't see it." A hallmark of immaturity and narcissism.
They remind me of those dolls way back in the day that had a cord you could pull to make them speak. There are only so many pre-recorded messages the record can handle. Everything they believe has been basically programmed into them over the course of their lives, reinforced by the media.
I once had a girlfriend who had a doll that kind of creeped me out a bit, and I said as much. It may have been both or either a collector's or childhood heirloom piece.
In any event, since the doll and I were sometimes sharing the same room-- we used it as the home office-- I noticed one day that my girlfriend had repositioned the doll so it directly faced me where I was sitting at the desk.
In retrospect, it may have been the same girlfriend who had onced casually asked me to the effect of what pushed my buttons. Suffice to say, I strategically avoided the question altogether since the 'doll incident'.
And now Musk derangement syndrome. Not that I care for the guy, after all, he is a psychopath. I'm just sharing my observations of my deranged brother after he got the death jab. He is mentally deranged and full of hate now.
I think they do too. You can see it behind the eyes - the sheer terror when you "go there."
It's why the material trappings are so important to these people as they are armor and distraction. At some point soon that won't work anymore and all their efforts will seem pathetic.
This must be so very difficult to see with your daughter and grandchildren and yet be powerless to change. We've all felt this since 2020. Sometimes I think it's like being "bashed" with lessons of humility.
Do they not know the covid virus didn’t come from a bat? do they not know there is no evidence that viruses have ever existed? but killer maimer vaccines do. . . we all have a lot to learn.
They have now been smacked — hard! — but they are too far gone, hopeless. They will never admit that their entire belief system was built upon lies. They will double down once again and blame all their woes on “climate change” caused by Trump, and by extension, his voters.
When I first read about the LA fires I knew the claims that they were caused by "climate change" couldn't be far behind. The reports on the fires almost always referred to the Santa Ana winds that helped fan the flames. I wanted to learn more so I began searching the internet. Even in the Wikipedia article (of all places) I found references that should prevent the climate alarmists from making their unfounded claims (but won't).
Under the heading of Historical Impacts I found the following:
"The Santa Ana winds and the accompanying raging wildfires have been a part of the ecosystem of the Los Angeles Basin for over 5,000 years, dating back to the earliest habitation of the region by the Tongva and Tataviam peoples.[22]"
I don't think the Tongva or Tataviam peoples drove SUV's.
Well said! Exactly! And the reality is, given that these winds and dry conditions were WELL KNOWN, whether it was “climate change”, historic realities, or the boogie man, preparations should have been made to avoid such a calamity! Saying that “climate change” caused the fires is NO EXCUSE! In essence, it’s a self own. “We knew climate change could do this but we made no attempt to prevent it.” So, who is to blame, “climate change” or the officials who were tasked with preventing a disaster like this? The answer is clear.
Other than to care for the truly destitute, I don't want all of America to have to pay for the damage caused in large part by the Californians who continually vote for incompetent "leaders" who don't clear their forests, harness the water supply, or plan ahead for this type of recurring event.
The people of the state need to feel the ramifications of the choices they've made.
New Yorker who recently moved to California here … My impression of my new neighbors is that a lot of them enjoy living the daydream. It’s why they’re here, to experience life in a blissed-out, dreamy (in many cases CBD-enhanced) bubble. Even the ones who seem to have been gifted with good brain matter in a material/genetic sense have their thought processes switched to Off. It’s quite bizarre to me how checked out of reality they are. Reality’s the enemy! Take it away!!!
California is a state of mind. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. I spent two years there (not by choice). Couldn't wait to get out. That was 1990. It hasn't gotten any more real since...
JHK, the most amazing thing to me is the mentality of so many Californians...I know some of these folks who are oblivious to any type of conspiracy...One of my friends, while watching the gang style robbing of stores, looked at me and said the media was overblowing the situation?...And a few others who refused to accept that the Democratic leadership was at fault in any way...Brainwashed? I'm not sure as I know of many in New York city area who feel the same way...So I decided to do some digging and it is quite clear the impact of the Media (nothing new for many of us)...not so much the Main Stream Media but more so the internet media...Those who refuse to conduct their own research "settle" on websites that fit and support their way of thinking...hence the term "confirmation bias" was created to justify their refusal to accept any information that does not support their narrative...Laziness combined with a closed mind will be and has been their downfall...
Cognitive dissonance.
Aka willful ignorance.
Ron, the Experience?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viO1qcfaYg0
The deeper the belief, the more contradictory it is to reality. The more contradictory, the harder it is to overcome. The logic is thus: If A =B, and B=C, then A=C.
Or rather, the unhealthy way they resolve it. *In theory*, democracy provides mechanisms for this...
It is called a firearm for a reason.
BINGO! I think you captioned it perfectly, thank you. I grew up in L.A., lived in CA most of my 70 yrs of life but when numerous Californians I knew started acting exactly as you described, I just couldn't take it any more and left some years ago. I grew up in Hollywood Hills right under the Hollywood sign - it seems most Dem folks think they are living in Hollywood, complete with the fake scenery and Hollywood illusions, which they believe is real. My brother in law is the same way and there is simply no way to converse with him about most topics. Very frustrating and I have to wonder what will happen to these people when the day comes that they are smacked in the face with the truth?
They’ve been smacked in the face with a lot of truths:
Any friends or family die from the vax? Have they seen people suffering in North Carolina as they live in tents in the winter cold? Do they not know the covid virus didn’t come from a bat? Have they heard rumblings about stolen elections? I could go on for days. The truth is out there, as shiny and glaring as a headlamp. You have to literally contort your mind and body like a pretzel not to see it.
My point is, they don’t want to see the truth. They have created a beautiful California bubble to live in. They’re not going to let you pop it. My daughter does the same thing: airline pilot hubby, beautiful baby, happy home in a gorgeous New England state, great friends, a doodle dog, a European stroller and granite countertops. She will jump over my backyard fence and run away before hearing ONE MORE WORD about the downfall of America. She’ll pay $10 for a gallon of milk rather than ever, ever hear the truth. Even when the truth shows signs of dismantling her life; her little vaxed family is sick all of the time and she has a new autoimmune disease.
A therapist once told me that everything one does works for them in some way—they get something out of it, even if they’re a victim. All the people who cover their ears and eyes? What are they getting from their ignorance? A chance to continue living their lives, hoping not seeing the truth will give them another day in their bubble.
Deep inside? They know. I promise you they do.
Very sorry about your daughter. Most of us have at least one family member that is hopelessly brainwashed.
Sadly, I think you are right that they know something is off about their reasoning, but they know that if they swallow the red pill they will no longer “fit in” with the cool kids. They can’t risk it. In many social circles being MAGA or being a “science denier on climate change” is worse than having leprosy. Better to stay in the bubble, unaware and virtue signal to the “right people”.
It’s beyond frustrating!
Your last sentence - I 100% agree. This is why, when you try to tell them the truth, they completely explode. They have the mentality of 2 year olds, when something happens they don't like, they put their hands over their eyes and say "it's not happening because I can't see it." A hallmark of immaturity and narcissism.
They remind me of those dolls way back in the day that had a cord you could pull to make them speak. There are only so many pre-recorded messages the record can handle. Everything they believe has been basically programmed into them over the course of their lives, reinforced by the media.
Chatty Cathy: “I’m hungry”. “Will you play with me?”
Some dolls say, The Jews are God's chosen people. Real Christianity says that Christians are.
What if there is no chosen people? Or what if all peoples are?
I once had a girlfriend who had a doll that kind of creeped me out a bit, and I said as much. It may have been both or either a collector's or childhood heirloom piece.
In any event, since the doll and I were sometimes sharing the same room-- we used it as the home office-- I noticed one day that my girlfriend had repositioned the doll so it directly faced me where I was sitting at the desk.
In retrospect, it may have been the same girlfriend who had onced casually asked me to the effect of what pushed my buttons. Suffice to say, I strategically avoided the question altogether since the 'doll incident'.
I find that to be true of all of us.
“Chatty Kathy”! 😂
Chatty Cathy.
Trump Derangement Syndrome, only in the quackcinated.
And now Musk derangement syndrome. Not that I care for the guy, after all, he is a psychopath. I'm just sharing my observations of my deranged brother after he got the death jab. He is mentally deranged and full of hate now.
"They know. I promise you they do."
I think they do too. You can see it behind the eyes - the sheer terror when you "go there."
It's why the material trappings are so important to these people as they are armor and distraction. At some point soon that won't work anymore and all their efforts will seem pathetic.
This must be so very difficult to see with your daughter and grandchildren and yet be powerless to change. We've all felt this since 2020. Sometimes I think it's like being "bashed" with lessons of humility.
Do they not know the covid virus didn’t come from a bat? do they not know there is no evidence that viruses have ever existed? but killer maimer vaccines do. . . we all have a lot to learn.
Well said!!
They have now been smacked — hard! — but they are too far gone, hopeless. They will never admit that their entire belief system was built upon lies. They will double down once again and blame all their woes on “climate change” caused by Trump, and by extension, his voters.
It’s sad, but it’s entirely predictable.
When I first read about the LA fires I knew the claims that they were caused by "climate change" couldn't be far behind. The reports on the fires almost always referred to the Santa Ana winds that helped fan the flames. I wanted to learn more so I began searching the internet. Even in the Wikipedia article (of all places) I found references that should prevent the climate alarmists from making their unfounded claims (but won't).
Under the heading of Historical Impacts I found the following:
"The Santa Ana winds and the accompanying raging wildfires have been a part of the ecosystem of the Los Angeles Basin for over 5,000 years, dating back to the earliest habitation of the region by the Tongva and Tataviam peoples.[22]"
I don't think the Tongva or Tataviam peoples drove SUV's.
Well said! Exactly! And the reality is, given that these winds and dry conditions were WELL KNOWN, whether it was “climate change”, historic realities, or the boogie man, preparations should have been made to avoid such a calamity! Saying that “climate change” caused the fires is NO EXCUSE! In essence, it’s a self own. “We knew climate change could do this but we made no attempt to prevent it.” So, who is to blame, “climate change” or the officials who were tasked with preventing a disaster like this? The answer is clear.
Other than to care for the truly destitute, I don't want all of America to have to pay for the damage caused in large part by the Californians who continually vote for incompetent "leaders" who don't clear their forests, harness the water supply, or plan ahead for this type of recurring event.
The people of the state need to feel the ramifications of the choices they've made.
Totally agree.
🙌👍
Additionally, fires in that area were much worse in the early 1900’s..
But if and when the crowd changes direction so will they. And then pretend it’s what they thought all along
Yet impossible to fathom.
Sadly, I think you are entirely correct.
They're already doing that.
Agreed.
It’s the same with every religious ideology…..
New Yorker who recently moved to California here … My impression of my new neighbors is that a lot of them enjoy living the daydream. It’s why they’re here, to experience life in a blissed-out, dreamy (in many cases CBD-enhanced) bubble. Even the ones who seem to have been gifted with good brain matter in a material/genetic sense have their thought processes switched to Off. It’s quite bizarre to me how checked out of reality they are. Reality’s the enemy! Take it away!!!
"Nevermind reality, I'm looking for a good fantasy"
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Honestly, the older I get the more this appeals to me.
Soma
Moves from New York to California and finds things suspect. Damn, things in Cali are Worse than I imagined.
"The rebuilding quandaries have already been rehearsed in the news." ~ JHK
"One of my friends, while watching the gang style robbing of stores, looked at me and said the media was overblowing the situation?" ~ Say It Aint So
Do you see what they did here:
‘This did not happen’: White House denies claims Biden froze at fundraiser event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXJdTWtzk1Q
... and now the population is convinced that Joe has dementia!
California is a state of mind. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. I spent two years there (not by choice). Couldn't wait to get out. That was 1990. It hasn't gotten any more real since...
The 90's were heaven in comparison to the now.
San Diego was a very little big city.
Most of it was clean very few homeless people.
The homeless issue really revved up under oBAMa.
hypnotized.