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TriTorch's avatar

The tragedy of war is that the young men and women die fighting each other - rather than their true enemies back home in their capitals. —Edward Abbey

You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye

Who cheer when soldier lads march by

Sneak home and pray you'll never know

The hell where youth and laughter go

—Suicide in the Trenches

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Steve C's avatar

Good stuff right there TriTorch.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

So true. Excellent post. We must avoid war at all cost. Brings nothing but death, destruction and extreme wealth to the upper echelons of the elite.

The part that amazes me is that so many thousands of young men and young women are so willing to die fighting each other. Imagine if those many thousands of soldiers simply put their guns down and refused to kill each other and stop fighting the wars for their capitals.

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TriTorch's avatar

Indeed Cankerpuss.

“What if a politician called for war

And no one showed up?”

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Similarly, what if all taxpayers just stopped paying their taxes? What would they do? Throw 150 million people in prison?

We the people have the power. If we as Americans could only find a way to come together and exercise that power. Hence the reason the PTB do all they can to keep us divided, leaderless and tribal. Hence "Democrats" and "Republicans." Hence "Liberal" and "Conservative." Hence "Black" and "White."

I'm daydreaming. I know.

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TriTorch's avatar

You say that you're a dreamer, but you're not the only one. I'm daydreaming right along with you:

The globablists' have successfully weaponized the Red vs Blue, East vs West, Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed, Boy vs Girl, Gay vs Straight, Brown vs White, and Pro-Life vs Choice dichotomies to exploit our innate tribal nature, and in doing so are dividing and conquering us. This us-vs-them separation makes us easy to control and direct with simple angry thoughts about the enemy who isn’t really our enemy - while blinding us to the actual enemy behind the curtain pulling the puppet strings. If we could collectively recognize this for what it is the NWO wouldn’t stand a chance.

These forces we are up against cannot be overcome if we keep allowing them to divide and conquer us. We must let go of our pride and our resentments for one another - which were instilled in us through their psychological operations - and unite together or we stand no chance.

Our adversaries know this, which is why they've been fighting tooth and nail to poison the wells we all share of comradery, fellowship, and family—they've been doing everything they can to decimate the ties that bind by disintegrating every trace of common ground and brotherhood between us.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, unity can never be attained with such diversity - that's why they promote is so assiduously. You haven't seen through their number one guise yet.

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TriTorch's avatar

I am well aware of the situation.

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Lugh's avatar

That's not what you said above. But if I've helped you realize the Truth then why not admit it?

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TriTorch's avatar

You think them flooding us with diversity in order to prevent unity is a new novel idea you came up with on your own?

My point is that we must overcome their predatory diversity regardless and unite to win.

There is nothing new under the sun.

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Lugh's avatar

With the alien hordes within our gates? Unity with them? Sure, mac, sure. Unity is your idol, your Tower of Babal. A false god in which we would lose ourselves in every possible way.

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TriTorch's avatar

Right, because utter division is working out so well for us

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Lugh's avatar
Mar 3Edited

No sane nation or people makes peace without first being prepared for war. This is Satan's Kingdom. We must make use of his methods. Individuals are free to renounce them, but nations? Never.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

You are correct, in a world where Satan rules, peace is never possible. However, in a world where the people, through their choices, thoughts and actions, have bound Satan, peace is possible. Unfortunately, this is not that world and as such war is inevitable and the innocent and defenseless will suffer the most. They always do. Not the capitals.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Our government, media and financial system has already succumbed to the minions of Satan... AKA "Zionists".

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Sedgwick C. Hartung's avatar

"The part that amazes me is that so many thousands of young men and young women are so willing to die fighting each other."

Terrible eating habits and neglectful/abusive parenting (not to mention deadly SSRIs) tend to preclude concentration, discipline, and productive activity.

"Imagine if those many thousands of soldiers simply put their guns down and refused to kill each other and stop fighting the wars for their capitals."

Then, they'd have to do something useful with all that free time.

The same lifestyles that predispose young people to fighting must be addressed if the human race is to avoid self-destruction.

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Ben's avatar

Avoid war at all costs?

What if the "other side" wants war at any cost?

Neville Chamberland discovered that avoiding war at all costs sometimes begets an even worse one.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Good question, Ben. The only war that I believe to be justified is if it is to defend one's home or family from an aggressive invader. Defensive. Any offensive war is immoral because it means we are putting other people on the defensive and invading their homes and endangering their families.

When was the last time America fought a defensive war? Ever? The USA has no right to invade a sovereign nation. Period. If we are the aggressor we have lost the moral high ground. In fact, the more I think about it, America has never fought a defensive war. Every war has been an offensive war. Correct me if I am wrong.

The one war we should be fighting is against the multi-million man army that has been crossing our borders. However, our troops are scattered all across the world keeping America "safe."

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JohnAZ's avatar

Defensive war by AMerica?

The revolution, War of 1812, Civil War, Indian wars. Starting with the Spanish -America war, all offensive wars. Both OFFensive and OffENSive.

I would say though that the USa has played the role of “Big Brother” peacekeeper when other lands critical to our health cannot stop killing each other. Plus oil.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

JohnAZ, I suppose the Revolution could be considered a defensive war against the invading British armies but America was already a British colony so was it really an invasion army? The War of 1812, okay, I'll concede on that war. The Civil War? I suppose if you lived in the south it would be considered a defensive war but I think that is a stretch. The Indian wars? Weren't the Native Americans already here?

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JohnAZ's avatar

Ha, interesting conversation.

I would imagine that the leaders of America who had pledged their lives, fortunes and sacred honor would’ve considered it a defensive position. I would say that both sides in the Civil War would’ve considered it defensive depending if you were talking from Atlanta or Gettysburg. As far as the Indians, they felt no ownership to the land like the European farmers that carved out their farms from the wilderness. I would imagine many of those farmers considered the Indian raids a defensive fight.

We do agree that the late 1800 and 1900 wars were mostly colonial or ideological in nature with the USA feeling they were a policing function.

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Peter Hönig's avatar

For some people it will always be 1938, for others 1933 or 1945. History may rhyme but it doesn’t repeat itself.

The entire WW2 paradigm is shifting. A lot of ideas that we have held as self-evident truths are being revised. The Chamberlain shtick is out of fuel.

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Sedgwick C. Hartung's avatar

C.S. Lewis said man is almost never closer to God than when "in the trenches", almost never farther from God than when surrounded by material wealth and sycophants.

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TriTorch's avatar

Thanks. C.S. Lewis saw it all from 100,000 feet.

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