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Rob (c137)'s avatar

But you'll gladly collect social security and Medicare when the time comes.

Remember, even Ayn Rand lived on welfare.

Practice what you preach.

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RevMikeyMac's avatar

Many of us would gladly stop being part of Medicare and Social Security. The problem is, the government won't let us...

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

You think it's safer to put your money in a 401k? Tell that to the people who were retiring around 2008. One of my coworkers saw his 401k cut in half. Before then, he was trying to convince me to put more in mine. I couldn't afford it cause I didn't have the disposable income. He bought his house before the prices skyrocketed since the 2000s...

Where did his 401k money go when he lost?

In the casino called Wall Street, the house always wins. The house is the big firms that can sway markets just by volume.

As much as social security sucks (compared to the systems in Europe), it's miles ahead of gambling and you'll appreciate it if you ever face a manufactured market crash where the crony bankers rob you.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Don't even get me started about 401ks and the Wall Street Casino. I've preached on this before.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Oh, and anybody who disputes this, take a Statistics course.

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Beth Nicolaides's avatar

I don't know about you, but I have paid a lot of FICO tax. After seeing so many corporations and people on the public dole, I am goddamn sure to want my money back the second I turn 62.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Yeah, these people that say that SSA is welfare seem to forget we pay our way with FICO taxes every day we work. One of the biggest reasons that SSa is in financial trouble is the enormous number of people, mainly men, that have learned to survive on welfare, 7-8 million of them. They do not work, do not pay income or FICO taxes, and are helping take down SSA. They will then complain when they turn 62, where is my SSA?

They are a huge indication of the cesspool this country has put itself into. Trump is just step one, now we will see if any good is left in the country.

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Patrick D. Grengs II's avatar

I will be one of those gladly in receipt of the $280,000 that was confiscated from my income over the past 35 years. That is $280k that I could have better invested in my own enterprises. Ayn Rand lived on the proceeds from the sale of her books, newsletters, and, like myself, funds returned that had been confiscated. Socialism is the creed of envy.

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Lugh's avatar

Preach. Libertarianism is a mind virus. All viable societies have elements of both individualism and communalism. Maggie Thatcher brightened when an interviewer "got it" saying: So society doesn't really exist? Mags: Yes!

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Patrick D. Grengs II's avatar

How does society change an invalid's shitty diaper? Society is a concept. An individual has no more of a right to health care than an individual has a right to a blow job. At the bottom of it, you only have individuals. They are either acting in their own self interest in a voluntary relationship, or they are behaving under threat, overt or covert, of violence.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, people often see it in their best interest not to pay their debts. Will a weak State be able to make them do it, as the Iron lady believed? Not for very long. People will make their own justice against with shotguns and knives. Are you up for that Herr Grengs?

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