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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Not true. The commies just take over the institutions. They have done that quite well: See Marxist indoctrination in the universities, and DEI/ESG in the corporations.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

But yet, universities and corporations rely on milking the government.

What is it called when the private industries and the government walk hand in hand?

Fascism.

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SusanMc's avatar

Public Private Partnerships

Sounds benign

It isnтАЩt

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I don't agree, communism takes over the means of production. I would suggest reading/watching some of James Lindsay's work on the topic. Newdiscourses.com.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

So communism means they run the military industrial complex? ЁЯШВ

Last I checked in history, when it comes to universities in the USSR , people were able to get practically free education because educated workers benefit the state.

Here in Amerika, education is the most expensive and only benefits the wealthy who can buy their way in. What is the definition of a nation that is run by the wealthy?

OLIGARCHY.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Just because it doesn't fit exactly with Russian communism doesn't mean it isn't communism - which can take a number of different forms with different names, i.e., communism, socialism, fascism.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Whatever you want to name it is fine - and why you're so invested, who knows. But what Democrats have been trying to instill is communism. It is textbook.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, as Marx said, capital centralizes. Capitalism unchecked leads to Plutocratic Oligarchy. You people won. Careful of what you dream about, you might get it. Happy? You didn't understand the consequences, even though unintended perhaps.

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kam's avatar

Free Market Capitalism, free of Monopolies, free of Government favoritism, has yet to arrive on the shores of America.

Once a Private Central Bank controls Money and Credit, only the favored few will prosper beyond their wildest dreams.

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Lugh's avatar

Such a thing can't exist since it is opposed to human society. If order isn't kept, if they are allowed to run roughshod over everyone, then the people will take matters into their own hands. Ditto pure Communism.

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GenEarly's avatar

and "What" do the Universities teach??? Demoncrazy ProgreSSive Communism

Tyranny is Tyranny, the "Isms" just are for debating facades.

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Lugh's avatar

It's Fascism when Government leads the dance. What we have is the opposite with the private sphere leading (at the highest level) - Plutocracy in other words.

You want to separate the two spheres, right? Can't be done in the modern industrial state. Actually, it was never really done since human life is an organic whole. In any case, one will lead. But which? You want the one that is faceless, devoted to profit alone, and beholden only to owners and shareholders to lead, right? Not the one voted in and that take an oath to serve.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Here is a book you might be interested in reading, it confirms your statement about "the professional class" and communism:

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution: The Remarkable True Story of the American Capitalists Who Financed the Russian Communists

https://www.amazon.com/Wall-Street-Bolshevik-Revolution-Capitalists/dp/190557035X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&sr=1-4

IMO this is an excellent book. See my other comment reply to Rob for more info.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Thank you. And this probably would pair nicely with what James Lindsay's work on cultural Marxism and the way the Democrats and the left have used that to try to create a new USSR out of the US.

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Lugh's avatar

Good, Grogan. Capitalism/Communism is one system, heads and tails. Communism is the fighting arm of Capitalism that breaks systems and nations not tied into the Capitalist global order. Of course things can and do go wrong. After a long travail, Russia has thrown this crap off and become Fascist. China, National Socialist, proud against to be the Han, the Sons of Heaven.

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