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Ron Anselmo's avatar

We've had proof - the courts have refused to hear the evidence - it's been there all along.

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AnnR's avatar

I always shouted from the rooftops that the election was stolen. They pissed all over our legs and told us it was rain. And so many ignorant, deluded, weak, feckless, moronic, pathetic, disgusting, should-not-have-the-right-to-cast-a-vote-they're-so-stupid, sheep, believed it. THOSE people, those MILLIONS of may they be damned to hell people, almost destroyed our country, irrevocably. As you can tell, I have so much hatred in my heart. I have no forgiveness. I hope Trump has none either. Because that will ultimately destroy us.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

It was obvious on day 1. There were anomalies and outright crime witnessed and reported, videos proferred, and still, nothing was done. They finally got a woman jailed for election results denial, in Colorado. That was just last month though, so they didn't work fast enough. Imagine if they had succeeded in stealing it again this time!

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ezinmn's avatar

I can't recall her name, but the CO lady had printouts of computer data showing how the 2020 voting results were manipulated by Dominion or Smartmatic. They didn't recognize her as a whistleblower, but as a felon who interfered with election material. Trump will pardon her soon.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

That's what I thought. I think her name is Tina Peters, and the judge called her a "charlatan." Say, what? Since when do judges name-call? I thought that was so crazy. Indicative also of a kangaroo court type of setup. I cannot wait for Trump to pardon her.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Meanwhile, the current Soros-elected Colorado Secretary of State is doing the exact same thing in spades, leaking election passwords--and is perfectly innocent!

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

"I have so much hatred in my heart. I have no forgiveness." ~ AnnR

Ann - let the hatred go, as so many tendrils of smoke to the heavens, or like a cancer, it will eat you alive.

On forgiveness - look to intention - forgive those with no evil intent. For those with evil intent - of which there are many - they need to be dispatched with extreme prejudice - with the emotionless edge of cold steel, or obsidian (h/t astera).

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AnnR's avatar

Hi Ron, The hatred in my heart is specifically for the evildoers. And, although many of those sheep may have been deceived by the higher level evildoers, the fact remains that the sheep DID DO evil, even if they knew not what they did. So, while I may not have complete hatred for those ignorant sheep, they do not deserve forgiveness. And the good news is, the hatred in my heart doesn't eat me alive. Because the love and goodness I have in the majority of my heart, also fuels me. But I do thank you for your words!!!!

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RevMikeyMac's avatar

Forgiveness is often not deserved. You forgive in order to unburden your own soul/spirit. In some cases, it may lead to repentance by the other party.

Either way, forgiveness does NOT mean exoneration for their crimes; there should still be justice and punishment; that is the role of healthy, righteous, law-keeping government.

That is why Trump's government MUST go after these people and clean house. It will bring healing to the nation and prevent *some* criminal activity in the future.

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Christopher Burrell's avatar

They will be held to account for their unrepented sin by the Lord God Almighty. We should have pity on them for what awaits them. Jesus says that if you do not forgive your enemies neither will the Father forgive you.

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Alzaebo's avatar

You are threatening her because you feel helpless?

I say no-- come together, instead, Tribe Up, we must carve out a parallel path and cultural territory for ourselves as the First Church did. MAGA is a most excellent start.

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Lugh's avatar

Not to give someone their wages - how utterly horrible. What injustice. Even God doesn't forgive those who aren't sorry. So many think they are better than God.....

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Cheryl's avatar

I think you put forgiveness in the self serving category as many Christians do. Forgiveness isnтАЩt given because of what it can do for you. When forgiveness is truly given itтАЩs done out of the love for the other person. The love the Lord said to have for one another. No judgement in it and no self service in it.

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Tony Lauria's avatar

The next chapter has to be arrests and prosecutions. All this kiss and make up bs wonтАЩt fly. Prices have to be paid. Historically they havenтАЩt which is why this goes on and on.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Hatred and resentment are like drinking poison and expecting your enemy to die. Just sayin'

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I think we can prosecute them to the full extent of the law, and also forgive them in our hearts. Ultimately, it will be up to God to judge them.

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Alzaebo's avatar

To forgive evil is to abuse the just. One does not forgive cancer, one excises it, lest the innocent suffer further.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Nice! Ron! I've got my Big Aztec all rough and ready for this day.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Yeah, chick, don't let the bastards live rent-free in your head.

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Bill Russell's avatar

My feelings, exactly AnnR. It will be frustrating to later learn that Guiliani's research into the 2020 election was spot on, and the Feds didn't act on the voter fraud. Guiliani was "tortured" by the legal system.

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Ward Dorrity's avatar

Never forgive. Never forget.

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David Collins's avatar

ЁЯШГ Don't hold back, AnnR, tell us how you really feel! Hey, I voted for Trump, AND I was one of those who accepted the story that 2020 was a clean election.

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AnnR's avatar

Interesting!!!!! YOU, my dear, ARE forgiven, lol!!!!!

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Unirealist's avatar

Let me rephrase, then: now we have a proof that is so obvious, so inarguable, so simple, that it is undeniable. See the graph of ballot totals in JHK's post. It is spreading through the alt-media and at some point will have to show up in the legacy media.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

I have copies of marked exhibits in a contested election case, filed 11/25/20 in Michigan. Voter turnouts:

City of North Muskegon 781.91%

Zeeland Charter Township 460. 51%

Grout Township 215.21%

City of Muskegon 205.07%

City of Detroit 139.29%

Spring Lake Township 120.00%

Followed by 10 @ 100.00%

Documented voter turnouts for Michigan, 2020 - you get the idea.

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Bill Russell's avatar

And how was this information snuffed out from being effective by the courts? Because of media control by the Dems? Or a judge didn't want to become a target by the Dems? Interesting, this entry time of Trump as President might now become a better time. Waiting for the Dems to really blow it may have been worth it. But now Trump has to spend a lot of time and money to undo the damage the Dems created.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Meh, spend a little, gain a lot.

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Unirealist's avatar

Hopefully the administration will appoint a commission to investigate how all that grotesque cheating occurred. It was criminally treasonous what they did. Hold onto those numbers; maybe you can testify before the commission when and if it comes to be.

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Colleen Sirna's avatar

It absolutely must happen! As our President said, you don't have a country without fair elections.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Wow. This is the Way. Instead of getting angry, Anselmo gets even.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Ya forgot all the shenanigans in PA, though.

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Bill of Rights's avatar

Can you get us a link of the original data Ron please? Thanks.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

BoR - I don't have the electronic copy archived, only my hard copies, but it's out there. The exbibit is marked such:

Case 2:20-cv-13134-LVP-RSW RCF No. 1-14, PageID.625 Filed 11/25/20

Affidavit of Russell James Ramsland, Jr.

You'll find it interesting - an expert forensic analysis of electronic machine tabulations in Michigan - six pages of narrative and summary. His final expert statement and conclusion?

"Based on the foregoing, I believe these statistical anomalies and impossibilities compels the conclusion to a reasonable degree of professional certainty that the vote count in Michigan, and in Wayne County, in particular for candidates for President contain at least 289,866 illegal votes that must be disregarded."

Yes, 289,866 illegal votes. Have at it - start digging, good luck, you'll probably find it.

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Colleen Sirna's avatar

Guys, check out New York Citizen's Audit for an education into the voluminous work that has been done these past 4 years.

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Disinfected's avatar

Yes, that chart alone make the case so compellingly that it can't be denied. When it comes to "fun with numbers," the KISS principle always applies, even, and perhaps especially, for the egg-heads among us. Keep It Simple, Stupid!

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Or, as my beloved late Mother used to say, "Keep It Simple, Shithead!" My god, I miss my folks and their bawdy humour.

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Cheryl's avatar

The steal lands squarely at Nancy PelosiтАЩs feet. I remember her in front of the cameras with a smug smile on her face saying that she promised to her followers that Trump тАЬwill not win this election. I can guarantee you that.тАЭ Biden pretty much said the same thing.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

All that proof just went *poof* at some point in 2020. Covid was the perfect cover, no one was allowed to question anything in that climate.

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ezinmn's avatar

They put a gun to the head of anyone who spoke out about the 2020 election results, and most of them shut their mouths afterwards. Those that didn't experienced lawfare, both criminal and civil.

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Alzaebo's avatar

A Covid Denier was the same as an Election Denier.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Yes. J6 was orchestrated for that purpose. To shut any and everyone up who dared mention that the election was stolen.

A scheme that big can't work more than once in a generation though. Look how the Trump apparatus foiled it this time. I think it was Charlie Kirk who said they had all sorts of operatives and lawyers all over the place making sure the Dems couldn't pull what they did last time. I would not be surprised.

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Nova's avatar

There were. At least 5,000 from what I understand. And that isn't even accounting for other networks of people and individuals who were vigilant recording everything.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

OMG, I just saw a Jimmy Dore episode where he interviewed Jay Johnston, who got a 1 year sentence for being at the J6 rally. He's an actor.

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Nova's avatar

Oh wow I did hear about that. I think he will probably get pardoned soon once Trump is inaugurated. Some people hope he will issue thousands of pardons for the J6ers on his first day in office. I am one of them lol!

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I think he pretty much has to, or there will be an uproar.

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Lugh's avatar

The Big Jews allowed them to do that. This time they said no. They want us strong so we can serve them in the Middle East. A golem must be strong!

In any case, it's all good. Or a choice between good and better for the Deeps. Storms on the surface has little effect on them. An executive from Black Rock said, Both Kamala or Trump would have been good for them. Anyone who isn't "good" doesn't get in.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Heh. So they want us coming back as experienced and battle-hardened as a Russian or Appalachian veteran?

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Lugh's avatar

Well it's worked out for them so far a la WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc.

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Jim Harmon's avatar

Go jag off 2 yer giant-nose cartoons.

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