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    Of all the vicious lies spun around the Covid-19 operation, among the most damaging was the campaign to demonize ivermectin, a Nobel Prize-winning true wonder-drug, among the safest known pharmaceuticals ever, effective against disease-causing parasites and also a potent anti-viral agent — which was exactly why the CDC and FDA turned on it. It very effectively subdued Covid-19 infections.

    That is, it worked. And because of that, these agencies had to pretend that it was worthless and harmful, to protect the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the fabulous mRNA vaccines that didn’t work and ended up harming, disabling, and killing many people. Any treatment that proved effective would have invalidated the EUA and negated the liability shield that came with the EUA, protecting the vaccine manufacturers from lawsuits.

     A week ago, in a lawsuit brought by three doctors against the FDA for its Covid-19 restrictions, DOJ lawyer Ashley Honold told the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit in Louisiana that “FDA explicitly recognizes that doctors do have the authority to prescribe ivermectin to treat Covid.” Really? After three years of bad-mouthing the drug in public service announcements — horse and cow de-wormer, not for humans! — and telling national boards of physicians not to use it, and telling the national organization of pharmacists not to fill prescriptions for it… which resulted in many states officially forbidding its use … which led to gross injustices such as the State of Maine Medical Board’s obtuse and insane persecution of bio-warfare expert and epidemiologist Dr. Meryl Nass (for which Dr. Nass is now suing them) … and to many other state boards revoking the licenses of doctors….

     Days after that howler by DOJ lawyer Honold, the FDA honchos in DC walked back what she told the court, saying, “… it has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19, nor has the agency stated that it is safe or effective for that use.” The agency then invoked its battery of fake excuses for that ruling: studies are inconclusive, blah, blah, which is just more bullshit, you understand, because the bottom line is the same as ever: the FDA will not surrender the EUA and its various protections for the Covid vaccines. And it will employ any official lie to support that position.

        It also happened that going back to the 2019 debut of Covid-19, Dr. Anthony Fauci, then-head of the NIAID and Francis Collins then-head of the NIH — two related agencies that funded and supported coronavirus gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology — received many millions of dollars in “royalties” for their part in developing mRNA vaccines against the Covid-19 pathogen that they had priorly developed (the total dollar figure rumored to be above $300-million). See how that worked?

     If you are among that segment of the population that has not lost its mind, you might realize that the public health authorities have no authority. They lied outrageously about everything connected with Covid-19. And when they were caught lying, they just lied some more in the vain attempt to cover up their previous lies. And so, it would be foolish to regard anything they say from now on — without a complete house-cleaning of agency personnel, plus some earnest prosecutions — as worth listening to and following.

     Authority, you see, is granted only to those who are trustworthy. Yes, it’s really that simple. If an authority lies about everything, and is caught doing it, then it is rendered invalid. Now, it happens that the US public health agencies, huge and costly as they are, make up only one part of the even larger and costlier US government, which has been busy surrendering the authority of all its other parts for years now, to the point that the whole enterprise is untrustworthy and in need of a severe housecleaning. Traditionally, elections are the mechanism for cleaning that house, but our elections have lost their authority, too? Really? How so? Because the untrustworthy officials in charge of them employ dubious systems for gathering the vote: mail-in balloting that invites fraud and hackable vote-counting machines that are connected to the Internet.

     The defects of these things are so obvious they can hardly be ignored. And the remedy is obvious and simple, too: paper ballots hand-counted in small precincts of manageable size, all done on one day, which we call Election Day (and which should be a national holiday, so more working people can get to the polls). Somehow, though, we are unable to avail that remedy, probably because the untrustworthy people in charge would lose their jobs and the power they enjoy in a truly fair election. So, they conclude, let’s not have that.

     It’s even looking like the untrustworthy public health authorities are ramping up yet a new, fresh Covid-19 scare for the fall, in order to reinforce the special mail-in voting scheme that’s working so nicely (for them), and to disorder the minds of the public so they’ll be too frightened to notice that all the other parts of the government are failing in virtually all their duties to the people of this land. Bring on some new Covid variants and the lovely new booster vax that’ll work so well (not). Go ahead, we should say, I dare you. We won’t be fooled again.


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1,052 Responses to “We Won’t Be Fooled Again”

  1. Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 8:52 am #

    I still can’t believe “Covid-19” exists until they show it to us. Dr. Mike Yeadon has said the same, and he is far more qualified to make such statements.

    Ivermectin is just another side story for distraction (like the “lab leak” idea).

    IMO, the Big Lie is the biggest lie of all, just as it has always been in these types of situations. A common sociopathic tactic.

    • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:18 am #

      I’ve never believed there was anything like Covid in the first place. Yes, I know people got sick, but they got sick from the flu or a variation thereof.

      • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 10:29 am #

        I am with you. My spidey senses told me some kind of bullshit was coming when they prepped the populace with the “toilet paper shortage.”

        Then came the Wuhan videos with men in moonsuits and people writhing in contrived agony in the streets.

        • Yirgach August 21, 2023 at 10:57 am #

          It now seems evident that Covid is actually based on an enhanced flu virus which was designed in a bioweapons lab first in the US and Canada, then moved to a sloppy level 4 lab in China for final assembly.

          If you’re of the persuasion that the release was not accidental, then that would explain the move to a level 4 lab with known issues in a totalitarian state to serve as a convenient excuse.

          Or else they didn’t give a flying fuck about safety protocols and went for the pot-o-gold.

          • Yirgach August 21, 2023 at 11:26 am #

            Also the data sheet finally provided by Pfizer indicates that the mRNA vax is NOT mRNA (Messenger RNA) but actually modRNA which is a synthetic RNA with unknown implications.
            There are 21 references to modRNA in the data sheet.See
            labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=14471.

            Tom Renz is actively investigating this humongous lie.
            See thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-utilizes-nucleoside-modified/

            Good luck to all who got the vax.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

            Yirgach,

            Just remember: Klaus Schwab told us what it was (roughly speaking) long ago, saying that the Covid shot changes YOU.

            I also recall now that the package insert so common in the US was a blank sheet of paper.

            Yet many just rolled up their sleeves–multiple times.

            LOL.

          • CirclesnCircles August 21, 2023 at 6:26 pm #

            Yirgach – I don’t think I’ve commented on here in several years but, am a semi-regular reader.

            I had to login because I’d wager every dime to my name that your first paragraph is entirely correct and it irks the hell out of me that people who never had the ORIGINAL STRAIN (and maybe some subsequent ones) still continue to front the epically ignorant prattle that Covid “is just the flu” ….like the yo-yo’s above your comment did.

            I’m not inclined to describe all the nasty details of the HORRENDOUS bout I had with whatever illness it was in Feb 2020 (slightly before Covid was acknowledged to be here.) It was unlike anything I’ve EVER had (I’m early 60s), was the closest to death I’ve ever felt, while two harsh, lingering and debilitating symptoms continued for SEVEN more months and **I have some resultant lung damage from it.**

            HELLO, to all the fools in denial – that was no fvcking FLU!

            It was an engineered bioweapon and there are more coming so, you may want to get your heads out of your asses so you can assess reality accurately. You’re welcome.

          • Yirgach August 21, 2023 at 7:07 pm #

            @CirclesnCircles

            We got the best 2021 XMas present ever in the form of Omicron.
            Not that it was unexpected. We are over 70, not vaxd and never will be. Have never had the “flu” .

            This was something different. Felt like a sledgehammer over the whole body, had a 102F fever for 2 days, slept 16 hours a day.

            Started taking IVM and others as soon as it came on. Came out of it about a week later. Feeling a lot better and no side effects.

            Thanks for your information, regards and best of luck.

          • CirclesnCircles August 21, 2023 at 7:30 pm #

            @Yirgach
            I think I can only thank luck and the fact that I had a dog and no one to take care of her at that time that I didn’t wind-up in the hospital. Because I felt I needed to be there, it was so bad.

            But, I may not have made it out of there alive and not because of the illness. Although, I doubt the deadly hospital Covid “protocols” were in place that early. Still…it might have been my death knell.

            Some might not believe you about that amount of sleeping but, I do. Get this: *30 hours!!* Not kidding. Other than two or three 10 minutes periods of being awake to go to the restroom, let my dog out and feed her….I slept 30 hours straight. I was so confused about what day it was that I didn’t believe it until I checked on all of the TV, phone and computer. I had gone to sleep on Mon afternoon and awakened on Wed about noon!

            Anyhow, I’ve read some of your other comments on here, I think you assess the many aspects of the Covid false flag very accurately.

            Btw, I also had numerous 2 or 3 day respiratory ‘flares’, I’ll call them during the second half of 2021 and first half of 2022 and believe them to have been a result of vax shedding from others. I can mostly attribute when those occurred to having been around vaxxed people in the day or two prior. Extremely freaky to realize.

          • Heartlander August 21, 2023 at 8:20 pm #

            Yirgach
            Circles circles

            Thumbs up and thank you.

            The virus deniers are frustrating to me.

            This is a non-natural virus, and the disease it caused was vicious and weird and quite different from other respiratory viruses, because it was ENGINEERED to be so.

            (Although, I tend to think that what got out from Wuhan was an intermediate virus, much less lethal than what they were actually shooting for. I mean, 99.7% survival rate? But once it was out, they had the Event 201 plan in place, and the Evil Bastards were going to implement that plan, no matter what. The fact that the fatality rate was no worse than a bad flu season just meant that the mind-fuckers had to work harder on their mind-fuckery of the public to get everyone to buy into it.)

            I have been distressed that Mike Yeadon, who, back in late 2020 or early 2021, quickly became one of my heroes in the covid Resistance Movement, and one of my most trusted information sources, seems to have recently bought into the there-wasn’t-really-a-virus shtick. A very perceptive friend of mine poses the theory that Yeadon has just seen so much evil the past 3 years, at such close hand (he was a medical school classmate, years ago, of several of the bigwigs dictating Covid policy in England, and he has said that there is NO WAY they could NOT have known exactly what they were doing), that he has been traumatized and unhinged by it all. Staring into an abyss of such profound evil, such horrible crimes against humanity, could indeed knock some screws loose.

            I still absolutely love Mike Yeadon, check his Telegram channel nearly every day, and value much of the information he shares. But I do not agree with him that there was no virus.

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 8:29 pm #

            Yes, Heartlander, they meant to make a much more deadly virus.

            As usual, when the evil mad scientists scheme to destroy humanity, (like with AIDS), they run up against the amazing ability of the human immune system to fight off new and improved pathogens.

            Yay for us humans!

            But yeah, it didn’t stop our overlords from running their program anyway.

            As we see with the Ukraine trainwreck, they actually believe that the narrative can overcome reality.

            And most of the time? They are right.

          • astera August 21, 2023 at 10:28 pm #

            @Yirgach/Circles/Paula…

            Yeah as far as I’m concerned, covid was definitely unique and real for me. When it first “came out,” I swore up and down that I would never get it, because I “already had it,” that being a severe respiratory infection out of nowhere in Feb 2019. And I am a healthy person who is a non-smoker, never smoked…

            Well, I was wrong. Ended up getting it at a group conference where I tested positive and said “no effing way I am sick with this thing,” went home, and the very next day, woke up and could not smell or taste ANYTHING. No fever, no respiratory issues…..just extreme fatigue and developed HORRIBLE paralyzing headaches. Yes, there is something neurologically engineered in this thing….I cannot explain except to say that at one point I seriously considered summoning a priest for an exorcism….and I am not that type of religious nut at all. Weirdest and scariest thing I’ve ever had.

          • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 2:24 am #

            Just show us the isolate.

            Should be easy.

            What are you waiting for?

          • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 2:30 am #

            The enhanced flu virus that they cannot show us and that has a 99.8% survival rate for anyone that isn’t 85 with 4 comorbidities?

            Ok.

            😀

          • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 11:58 am #

            Circle and the rest: So if everyone got this sick, the death rate would have been much higher, right?

            But it wasn’t. Most people who got “covid” just got the ordinary flu – which mysteriously disappeared that year.

            I’m not averse to the idea that they cooked up something new that some people in some places might have gotten. But for most, it was just trickery. Remember, the hospitals were being bribed to find and treat “covid”.

          • CirclesnCircles August 22, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

            Night Owl is in an extreme mental rut and cannot seem to help himself see past it. He’s like the Covidiots who swear they’d risk death if they caught The Coof and that the vaccines are a Godsend. Even though, we know definitively that neither is true.

            He harps and harps on something HE can’t prove and fails to possess the common logic that ALL diseases exist before they are ever identified specifically. I already explained all this on here, feel sure that he saw it but, didn’t comment because it has stumped him. He has no means of explaining the existence of diseases like fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, multiple sclerosis, Lou Gerhig’s disease, ETC, etc. etc. All of which have not been isolated and there is no specific test for them. But, THEY EXIST and people suffer from them and some DIE.

            Conclusion: Night Owl = a separate tranche of Covidiot (who, like the others, also can’t grasp or acknowledge the fallacy of his weak thinking)

            Jarek – “So if everyone got this sick, the death rate would have been much higher, right?” Answer: NO. Question: Are you a simpleton also? Some of you did not pay close attention to these events but, believe that you are well-informed. Problem!

            How can you and others not grasp that it can be BOTH? There was a released bioweapon early-on to kickstart this false flag (depend on the seasonal flu to be the trigger? Be serious, TPTB are evil but, they’re not stupid) AND many “cases” were fraudulently diagnosed via the inappropriately-used and highly-amplified PCR tests. They utilized BOTH means….GOF bioweapon AND diagnostic fraud. (I’m going to assume that they *meant* for the bioweapon to be more deadly than it was.) Plus plenty of fraudulent MSM reporting.

            Jarek, I have had the seasonal flu, maybe, five times in my life and I’m early 60s. How is that possible? Well, here’s one likelihood – I’ve never had a flu shot. I’ve lost count of the number of people I know, over decades, who came down with a nasty case of the flu within a week of taking that stupid concoction. Indeed, Dr Zev Zelenko, who was an early proponent of using HCQ, Vit D and other things for successfully treating Covid, subtly said in one of his many interviews, (paraphrasing) “that the absence of both the flu and of flu shots in 2020 is an interesting occurrence”. Well, yes it is! He also said, that in 2020 while he was treating huge numbers of patients that with many who tested Covid positive using the PCR test (yes, bogus, we know) he ALSO tested them for seasonal flu and those came back negative. So, whatever quite symptomatic illness they presented with it did not produce a positive flu test. OK?

            BOTTOM LINES:
            — Diseases EXIST, and sometimes for years or decades, before they are isolated and an adequate test devised. But, they are diagnosed by symptomatology and tests ruling out other illnesses.
            — It’s clear to those who paid close attention to events and experienced a DEEP ILLNESS unlike anything we’ve ever had that both a unique disease was unleashed AND (boldface!) much of what was reported and diagnosed related to Covid was PHONY.
            — Yes, the flu wasn’t present (negative tests proved that) in 2020 and neither were flu shots. Draw your own basic conclusion.
            — Many millions will get played again when the next crisis, of whatever means, gets rolled out because simple people look for simple conclusions. As all manner of people have exhibited in the recent era including some on here.

          • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 3:04 pm #

            Circles/OG devotes a short novel to me.

            I am flattered that I upset you this much, OG.

            I thought I only got to Paula D. at that level.

            😀

          • CirclesnCircles August 22, 2023 at 4:20 pm #

            Spoken like a bonafide narcissist. My comment was primarily and obviously to Jarek but, of course, a narcissist wouldn’t recognize that; it’s only ever about himself and his own fetid navel lint.

            Anyhow, you’re the naked emperor, any rational reader can see it. I stumped you completely and you have no rebuttal – intelligent or otherwise. Just more immature prattle.

            Now, go ahead and top this off because we know you *need* to. It would gnaw at your stunted sensibilities not to have the last (inane) word.

          • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 5:06 pm #

            Show us the isolate, sock boy.

            You have nothing, and it is hilarious.

          • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 7:46 pm #

            Circ, you’re making my case for me. Maybe nothing was cooked up at all. Maybe it was just a bad variety of the flu that they called something else.

            People are always getting sick and dying of the flu after all. Sooner or later, they will get sick like they never have before from it. Covid?!!? There are many firsts on the way to the last day, friendo.

            Not being able to taste or smell is often as aspect of long flu too, frendo.

          • CirclesnCircles August 22, 2023 at 9:43 pm #

            Holy cow, Jarek – I wrote it out so clearly for you but, you did not comprehend it accurately.

            FFS, BOTH things occurred….a released bioweapon !AND! a whole lot of fraud regarding the testing and diagnostics of millions of people.

            What in the heck is so difficult to grasp about that?

            You want a simple, clean scenario to understand complete with a little bow on top buy, you’re never going to get it because it doesn’t exist. The Covid false flag is jumbled, confusing, contradictory and unclear ON PURPOSE. Just like 9/11, just like JFK’s killing and so many other Govt operations.

            We will never have clarity on any of those – intentionally.

            P.S. Like I said, I don’t get the flu and what I had in 2020 had minimal resemblance to it. Like so many others have also said.

          • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 11:22 pm #

            It could just have been the flu in your case, a new virulent type, one that your aging system didn’t recognize and fight off easily.

            We mostly agree. I don’t know what you’re(!) getting so heated about.

          • Islander August 23, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

            Use of the word “hilarious” has become an antennae twitcher for me.

            It is a variety of ad hominem used to invalidate arguments with out presenting counterarguments.

            “Hilarious” translation: I am so far superior to you in understanding that all I can do is laugh—kind of like an all-seeing, laughing god.

        • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2023 at 11:00 am #

          Yes. That toilet paper shortage was planned. There was also suddenly a meat shortage as well.

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

            There was only a shortage in the supermarkets. My corner shop had toilet paper the whole time.

          • Q. Shtik August 21, 2023 at 2:54 pm #

            If you use a hand-held bidet you will use much less toilet paper (to dry your ass with). And your butt will be so clean you could eat off it (metaphorically speaking).

            Japan, the UAE, and other countries are light years ahead of the US on poop related equipment.

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 3:39 pm #

            I wonder how your system will work when they cut off the electricity, Q.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:21 pm #

            The best part was that although there was no TP, facial tissue, napkins, etc., were plentiful.

            But the TV said it was true.

            😀

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 8:30 pm #

            A bidet doesn’t use electricity.

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 9:56 pm #

            I misread – thought it had a drier too!

          • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 2:25 am #

            The bidet on my Japanese toilet is electric.

            Paula D. coming in with her knowledge again.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2023 at 11:09 am #

        There are others who share your belief:

        “Yep. COVID is just the cold and flu merged into a singular diagnosis”
        https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1691240576925011968?s=20

        • SaHiB August 21, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

          Colds are due to human rhinovirus. Don’t conflate coronavirus, RSV, and flu with colds.

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 4:42 pm #

            Colds are caused by several viruses, including rhinovirus and coronavirus, as far as I know.

          • Islander August 23, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

            You don’t know what your are talking about. A number of types of virus cause colds, not just one. I thought this was general knowledge, but I guess it is just more knowledge that has gone down a memory hole or been twisted—such as Paula’s contention that coronaviruses are “stable” and do not mutate rapidly, where as actually they are known for mutating rapidly.

            “Colds are minor infections of the nose and throat caused by more than 200 different viruses. Rhinovirus is the most common cause, accounting for 10 to 40 percent of colds. Other common cold viruses include coronavirus and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV).”

        • CirclesnCircles August 21, 2023 at 6:33 pm #

          Are people so SIMPLE of mind that they cannot compute that both scenarios can exist?

          That there WAS / IS an engineered bioweapon and the evil “authorities” screwed with the diagnosing, testing and reporting of colds and flus during that giant FALSE FLAG event?

          It shouldn’t be that hard to grasp.

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 7:41 pm #

            Indeed, Circles, it shouldn’t be that difficult.
            And yet……….

            It is beyond infuriating to be that sick and then have some snot-nosed adult brat arrogantly tell you that you were NOT sick.
            You just had a cold.

            Because they fell for a psy op designed to draw attention away from the 300+ bioweapon labs the US operates around the world.
            We don’t need to worry our pretty little heads about gain-of-function bioweapons, because there are no such things as viruses.

          • CirclesnCircles August 21, 2023 at 10:13 pm #

            @Paula – Yes, some of the naysayers have been controlled opposition and some are just stupid and then too proud to admit they were wrong or misperceived how severe and unique the illness could be.

            As you can likely tell from my writing style, I am in no mood to suffer either type described above.

            If people want to GRASP these exceptionally fvcked-up and evil times we live in they better learn to stretch their thinking because the created quagmire is both deep and broad with the intention of people becoming confused and then accepting only the simple conclusions that they can manage.
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

            **JHK – If you see this, the article above was exceptional and hit on so many really critical points. Before finishing it I was thinking, ‘I need to forward this to a bunch of people’. But, alas, I only know about two who would appreciate it and comprehend it. The others are narrative chuggers.

            Pls keep it up for those of us who value it and actually need it. As it can be a lonely existence regarding certain fundamental issues when so many today are brain captured and not reachable.

          • Qwibqwib August 24, 2023 at 3:52 pm #

            After reading down this thread for a bit, I can say one thing with certainty…the number of “arguments” basically saying “you are dumb and I am smarter” is excessive.

            The most plausible explanation is likely a combination of the various theories presented here. Something like:

            1) Flu disappeared because all flu cases were counted as covid.
            2) Covid is a real thing, but perhaps it is a hybrid or genetically modified flu/cold. Evidence definitely points towards genetic modification through human interventions and not natural.
            3) You can usually tell if some major event, supposedly naturally occurring, was pre-planned based on the amount of coordination shown in the response.
            4) Occom’s razor tells us that, IMHO 😀 , one or more of the various laboratories involved with this gain of function research had an accidental release of a genetically modified cold virus. The .gov’s around the world then scrambled to cover their asses and made up the whole pangolin/bat origin.

    • SW August 21, 2023 at 10:24 am #

      I got sick and had a covid test that was strongly positive so the assumption I’m making is that it does exist. It was like a bad case of the flu for about 4 days, then fatigue for another week.

      I’ve noticed they’re ginning up RSV for adults so they can sell their overpriced vaccine for a virus that’s not that serious. You get sick — you get over it.

      • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 10:31 am #

        The Covid test does not test for Covid. Have you even given a cursory look at videos from Mullis (the inventor) and learned how the test actually works and what it is for?

        Mullis is also on tape calling Fauci a fraud of the higest order.

        Be honest, have you ever even looked?

        • Organist1022 August 21, 2023 at 10:41 am #

          You are referring to the PCR test. People don’t use these at home. Don’t try so hard.

          • Yirgach August 21, 2023 at 11:15 am #

            The home test kits look for the COVID-19 antigen. They will return a false negative at early stages of infection and also a false positive if you have had Covid-19 in the recent past.

            The PCR tests can easily return false positives if used incorrectly and most of the first two years of PCR testing was done incorrectly.

            The most important thing is to start treatment as early as possible. Going to a hospital and risking intubation or Remdesivir treatment is a bad idea.Taking Ivermecton or HCQ as a prophylactic is a good idea if you are living in an area where Covid is rampant. If you are relatively healthy, it’s better to get naturally infected as your body will develop the full load of specific antigens as opposed to the mRNA subset.

            Children under 16 should not be mRNA vaxxed as it will destroy their innate immune system and leave them vulnerable to other more dangerous infections.

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

            They only used PCR the first year, not the first two years.

            After that they switched to the antigen test.

          • Yirgach August 21, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

            @Paula

            If “they” are not using the PCR test (also known as nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT)), then please tell the CDC, Hospitals and pharmacies about it. Some places have dialed down the amplification settings on PCR tests to discourage false positives after the second year. But as others have noted, PCR was never designed to diagnose an infection.

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            I understand that the PCR test was worthless, especially at the cycles used to artificially ramp up the numbers, in order to ramp up the fear, in order to ramp up the “vaccine” uptake.

            I remember when they brought out the antigen tests, in late 2020, to be used starting in 2021, which was weird, since they could have started right away.

            If hospitals are still using the PCR tests, I would assume that they are being paid to do so. That is why they started using them in the first place. Follow the money.

            Everyone else is using the antigen tests.

          • mrs_saj August 21, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

            Actually SW didn’t say where the test was conducted (home vs. medical facility), just that there was a test. Don’t project.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:07 pm #

            They have used PCR in Germany the entire time, claiming it is the “gold standard.”

            The antigen test. LOL.

            The stupid burns.

        • SW August 21, 2023 at 11:45 am #

          No I haven’t. This was the simple home test that goes in your nose. I was sick — it was positive — the doctor gave me hydrocloriquine, steroids, z-pack and I lived. I wasn’t trying to make a bigger deal out of it than it was.

          Everyone I know got sick with covid (or whatever it was) and recovered just fine and didn’t die or have “long covid.” This whole mess is in such a muddle it’s impossible to wade through. I never believed lockdowns, masks, school closures, and all the rest were necessary or justified and the media cranked up the hysteria to full blast.

          I don’t want the WHO to have any authority at all to set public policy. What I do want is a public hearing under oath of Fauci, Peter Dazask, Zuckerberg, Collins.

          • loosethedogs August 21, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

            Gosh, I can’t recall, and you can’t make me recall. These Congressional Circuses are the equivalent of self-abuse. It’s like asking Congress to vote to limit their own term limits – an exercise in futility.

          • Q. Shtik August 21, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

            Gosh, I can’t recall, – loosethedogs

            ==========

            Gosh?

            That’s some pretty foul language you are using there loose.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:55 pm #

            Fair enough.

        • ThorsHammer August 21, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

          @Night Owl

          Don’t stop before following your analysis to its logical conclusion

          The fraudulent use of Kory Mullis’ PCR test was the bedrock upon which the Pandemic of Fear was constructed. The test was used by governments from Canada to Chile to gin up belief in an oncoming Spanish Flu and herd people into the arms of Pharma for profit and into the grasp of governments for an experiment to determine how far propaganda and mind control could lead them in blind compliance. Without the PCR “Gold Standard” test there never could have been enough fear of the Ft. Detrick Flu to allow mass shut downs of society and universal genetic alteration injections.

          As always, War is The Answer. In this case the goal is to get the Believers to go along with the use of a few friendly little tactical nukes sent to Moscow before their use date expires. And sell F35’s to deliver them.

          “We Won’t be Fooled Again? We already are.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

            Never will, Thor.

            The fact that one has to point out that there is no hard evidence provided for even the existence of “Covid-19” is beyond the pale.

            Even here, we have people who simply accept it. Even if one believes in the virus, why would one not demand proof?

            Notice, none of the believers ever answer this question.

            😀

          • CirclesnCircles August 21, 2023 at 6:46 pm #

            Night Owl is apparently one who doesn’t grasp that ALL diseases exist *before* they are ever identified or isolated.

            Lol, so the lack of specific isolation doesn’t mean it DOESN’T EXIST.

            There are all sorts of well known and widely-suffered illnesses that haven’t been exactly identified and there is no test for them. Try fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, multiple sclerosis, Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis and plenty of others. Many being autoimmune diseases.

            People suffer them, sometimes die from them – THEY EXIST.

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 8:23 pm #

            Except that SARS 2 virus was isolated, identified and mapped out by January.

            That is why we have the emails to Fauci on Jan. 30th pointing out that the genome of the SARS 2 virus could NOT be a natural mutation. It had to be genetically modified.

            Then the two men who pointed it out were schooled and bribed, and by Feb. 2nd signed a letter saying that no way this was a bioweapon, it totally was a bat virus mated with a pangolin mated with a ferret mated with a human.

            Totally.

            That is what a million dollar NSAID grant can do.

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 8:24 pm #

            Correction: Jan. 31st.

          • ThorsHammer August 21, 2023 at 10:31 pm #

            @ Paula D.

            Your time frame and sequence for the emergence of the COVID19 “pandemic” is a bit off..

            Hypothesis:

            The SARS COVID19 virus is indeed real. It is the product of gene splicing bio- warfare experiments during the decade prior to 2019, most likely centered in the bio-warfare laboratories in Ft. Detrick Maryland. Later sub-contracted to the level 4 biological lab in Winnipeg Canada before being placed under the directorship of Dr. Mengele Fauci and moved to Wuhan China where lab assistants were cheaper.

            The synthetic virus was first tested on college students in the region surrounding Ft. Detrick but found to be too weak and ineffective to serve as a bio-weapon. The original goal was to exploit the race-selected higher incidence of the Ace2 receptor in the Chinese genome, but it failed that test as well.

            The second wheel of the development of any successful bio weapon is the creation of a countervailing vaccine to protect your forces from the disease while decimating the enemy. That explains why the synthetic RNA “vaccines” were patented and all ready to go before the first “case” of the disease was diagnosed in the US. All that was left was to fraudulently miss-use the PCR test to create a veneer of “Science” and produce the exponential number of “cases” necessary to herd the domestic animals into a panicky stampede.

            I wonder if the fall campaign to sell a new pandemic will be as successful? They’ve had two years to develop a more powerful viral bio-weapon and companion injections. Should be enough to counteract any tendency for “died suddenly” to slow down.

          • astera August 21, 2023 at 10:44 pm #

            “Ft. Detrick Flu”

            yep.

          • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 2:22 am #

            It was never isolated according to traditional methods (Koch, etc.).

            Paula D. uncritically repeats a McMedia hoax.

            No surprise there.

          • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 11:54 am #

            I agree that it was developed in the US, Thors. I didn’t say when it was released. It was identified by the Chinese in Jan. 2020, after the first cases showed up in Wuhan.

            Personally, I think that the dead young men in the summer of 2019, blamed on “vaping”, and the nursing home patients wiped out in Virginia, not far from Fort Dietrich prove that the virus was circulating in the US before it was identified in January 2020.

            But never forget that the University of North Carolina and Ralph Baric, are up to their necks in this diabolic experimentation.

            Ralph Baric, as far as I know, is still there, and still doing his dirty deeds.

        • Islander August 23, 2023 at 2:27 pm #

          Mullis said that the test should not be used to diagnose disease, because it is designed to magnify minuscule amounts of various things so that you can actually see them. It was not designed to diagnose illness. I think the only way to reliably diagnose illness is via a lab culture.

          Furthermore, the level of amplification was important. Amplifying the results 45 times instead of 25 times was a misuse of the technology. Per Mullis, such high amplification meant that one could find just about anything, but its presence would be irrelevant.

          It is still unclear (to me) whether at 25 X amplification the tests could detect the presence of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, or antibodies to it.

          Mullis dumping on Fauci was I believe in the context of the AIDs situation, not Covid-19.

      • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:37 am #

        Not enough of them have that house on the lake and can afford to live la dolce vita yet.

      • SangPur August 21, 2023 at 11:05 am #

        Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) causes infections of the lungs and respiratory tract. It’s so common that most children have been infected with the virus by age 2. Respiratory syncytial (sin-SISH-ul) virus can also infect adults.

      • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 11:18 am #

        SW

        Me, too. I got it in Puerto Vallarta. Really sick, fever, malaise, runny nose, really fatigued. Tested positive strongly. Maybe it was not Covid, but it was really something. Four days, recovery. Initially.

        Night Owl, you and I have gone round and round. DoI believe that a group in DC, and the WHO conspired to worsen this disease and use fear to enhance their power. You better believe it. I got whatever it was, and like SW, it WAS something, flu cold, whatever. Call it what you want, it was something.

        Whatever it was, or is, it is much more communicable that normal flu. IMHO, the big, huge difference is that people can catch it airborne and as a residual after a space is contaminated. Think of the weddings and group meetings that produced large percentage contamination. Cruise ships got clobbered. Masks make NO difference with airborne as these particles go right through and around them. Mask may inhibit the projection of virus laden snot from infected folks, but as a preventive against airborne, forget it.

        I think about Fauci. I believe he is the top dog involved with WII, whatever.it is, His labs had the formula, the genetics of these viruses. That is why the mRNA crowd was able to jump on the creation of cell created S Protein so fast. He got caught by the release of the WII in China and his Trump appointment condemned all of us to an illness, WII,

        Look back, all the SOB did to earn his millions was to tell us to do all the normal preventive stuff that had been around for centuries,masks, keep a distance, avoid contact, avoid crowds. The real winners were the power addicts in charge, using his bullshit to control the populace as much as possible and start the child education control we are seeing continue today.

        I have known many folks with long Covid, or whatever it is hanging on, debilitating them. I notice that one thing Jim could add to his diatribe against the government is that very little has been done to pursue research into any part of Covid. I think he is right, it will open up a can of worms so huge that they will do anything to stop it. BTW, this is the entire Deep State including the GOP, even Trump. Unfortunately, his ego will not allow himself to admit error to the people.

        Very slowly, some information is being generated on the causes and effects of WII. IMHO, the next elected Deep State will face considerable backlash from some people.

        Also, IMHO, it will not be enough to change things. Joe Average does not understand what happened and now that the main impact has passed, does not care. He is dumb enough even now to believe the government when they say the answer is to get a booster, another shot of mRNA and another dose in inflammation from s protein.

        BTW, Neurodoc, one thing with me that started with my episode last fall is vertigo, continuous at first but slowly getting less obtrusive. Could it be that it is a chronic inflammation affecting inner ear like the loss of smell and taste?

        • FGB3 August 21, 2023 at 11:36 am #

          I believe he is the top dog involved with WII

          What is “WII”?

          • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

            Whatever it is! I Noted the acronym above.

        • SW August 21, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

          John — I don’t think Joe Average will be quite as compliant as before. Even the blue dog Democrats I know don’t want to spend another full year in their houses watching Netflix and Rachel Maddow. A financial collapse could do that for them and with the added bonus of evicting J.A. from his home.

          There’s no upside to the government looking into covid further as it doesn’t reflect on them very well. Fauci has disappeared from the public view and I’ll bet that’s how they want to keep it.

          • Champ Or Chump August 21, 2023 at 7:59 pm #

            Maybe not Joe Average, but young leftists would rather continue complying with orders than admit they were wrong. They can be seen joking about COVID-19 “vaccine” injuries and deaths on Twitter. They think supporting the Democrat party will get them more bike lanes and high speed rail.

        • mrs_saj August 21, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

          JohnAZ,

          Look back, all the SOB did to earn his millions was to tell us to do all the normal preventive stuff that had been around for centuries,masks, keep a distance, avoid contact, avoid crowds. The real winners were the power addicts in charge, using his bullshit to control the populace as much as possible and start the child education control we are seeing continue today.

          Am I reading this right? Are you defending Fauci?

        • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

          JohnAZ,

          I respect your opinon, but as we have discussed: Too many things do not add up. I made a small list above, but there were things I left off the list, ofc.

          The bottom line is that they have never shown us the disease exists. That is the biggest Big Lie in modern history.

          When they can show an isolate and a test to determine illness, and it is agreed on by a group of professionals from across the spectrum, then I will reconsider.

          The fact that they have done what they have done, and shown no hard evidence for the existence of this so-called virus, is phenomenal.

          • Yirgach August 21, 2023 at 7:18 pm #

            They can’t show that Covid as a disease exists because it has been artificially created. It has no real history, but it does have a pedigree.

          • CirclesnCircles August 21, 2023 at 10:22 pm #

            You have blind spots the size of BLACK HOLES.

            No one can help you with that, you have to help yourself! Read my other comments here as well as those posted by Yirgach.

          • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 2:27 am #

            Yigarch, that makes no sense whatsoever.

          • Yirgach August 22, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

            Well it may seem “phenomenal” that a virus is invisible, but only if it were made to appear as such.

            I’m sure you are familiar with Michel Chossudovsky as well as Sasha Latapova see anthonyjhall.substack.com/p/the-death-cult-is-gaining-momentum.

            We’re all talking about the same thing…

        • ThorsHammer August 22, 2023 at 10:43 am #

          Long Covid = synthetic RNA “vaccine” = billions in the pockets of Pharma.

          • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 3:37 pm #

            Yep.

        • Islander August 23, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

          ” as a residual after a space is contaminated.”

          No, I don’t think so.

          There is no evidence that the virus can survive on surfaces such a door knobs.

      • Heartlander August 21, 2023 at 8:36 pm #

        Actually, my understanding is that RSV, which didn’t use to put adults into the hospital, has BECOME more serious, for adults and children, because
        (1) vaccinating billions of people with a “leaky” (non-immunizing) vaccine — in the middle of a pandemic, no less — so alters the global viral landscape that now RSV is a problem;
        (2) billions of people are now more vulnerable to every virus out there, including RSV, due to the way the Covid vaccines fuck up your immune system;
        (3) isolation, shutdowns, school closures, etc. resulted in people’s immune systems NOT getting the “updates” that normal social contact normally gives you, so once they resumed normal social interaction, they were more vulnerable.

        Point 3 is explained really well by Julius Ruechel:
        juliusruechel.com/2021/12/a-half-truth-is-whole-lie-omicron.html?m=1

        • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

          I don’t think it’s become more dangerous, Heartlander.

          The Mighty Wurlitzer of propaganda can spin any narrative, and repetition is the key, as Goebbels and Bush pointed out.

          I don’t think that covid was ever a pandemic, as traditionally understood, but that narrative was pushed until almost everyone repeats it, as in the narrative spread by that microbiologist “Don’t vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic”. (I forget his name, but I definitely think he was part of the psy op.)

          Do the vaccines make you more susceptible to RSV? Maybe, but I doubt it. Remember that everyone has already had it by age 2, and it is a mild disease for almost everyone.
          I don’t think they can turn it into a killer anywhere but in the media.

          But of course, that will be enough for millions of people to run out and get the shot.
          And THEN we’ll see the real deaths, just like with the covid agenda.

          To most people, covid was the killer, and the GMO injectables are Safe and Effective.
          That is the power of the media, and they will do it again.

          • ThorsHammer August 22, 2023 at 11:33 pm #

            Was there ever a Covid pandemic? Before the first “case” was ever diagnosed in the USA the passengers on the Diamond Princess cruise ship began experiencing an unusual flu-like illness. The ship was docked in Japan and subject to strict quarantine. The 3500 passengers on board provided the perfect Petri dish for the study of this unknown illness. An aged cohort of test subjects, most of them couples sharing tiny staterooms where they could not help but be exposed. The end result was +- 30 fatalities, slightly lower that would have been predicted from the seasonal flu.

            The captive “scientists” from the UK national health service predicted millions of upcoming deaths at a level like the Spanish flu at the beginning of the century, and used that baseless assumption to demand mass vaccination with an untested genetic alteration cocktail and complete shutdown of society.

            They knew from the beginning that the new flu was no more dangerous than the old one! But it served the purpose of training the domesticated herds to march according to orders.

            The Pandemic of Fear was built upon the fraudulent usage of the PCR test protocol to manufacture an exponential growth of cases and stampede the domesticated public into their mental cages.. And extract millions from their pockets.

        • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

          Your link didn’t work for me, by the way.

          • Yirgach August 22, 2023 at 4:27 pm #

            Try prepending “www.” to the link…

          • Qwibqwib August 24, 2023 at 5:44 pm #

            Didn’t work for me either. I had to open substack and do a search for the title

      • Lyndy33 August 22, 2023 at 4:33 pm #

        “You get sick — you get over it.” Unless you are old, other mobilities, or in hospice (rest home care). We lost a lot of elderly but a flu or cold would have probably done the same to these fragile people. I’m 90, last year I had a positive test and a little sick for a couple days (no BFD) but I have been taking Zinc, Vitamin D, etc for years. OTOH: My wife who doesn’t think Zinc, etc. is all that important was ill for a couple weeks.

        • Q. Shtik August 23, 2023 at 3:26 pm #

          other mobilities – Lyndy

          ========

          Hahaha. Well, after all, Lyndy IS 90 years old.

    • Ron Anselmo August 21, 2023 at 10:41 am #

      “As I’ve noted in the past, it’s difficult to combat a movement with no morals and no shame. If your purpose is to convince them to stop what they are doing using logic, data, common sense and appeals to conscience, you will fail. They don’t care about any of these things. The leftist obsession with power is absolute – It’s all they talk about. It’s the root of every one of their arguments.” ~ Brandon Smith, Alt-Market.us

      The end game is about control. Covid and anything related, is part of the plan to control the masses. Any, and all of these untrustworthy fuckers need to pay. Big time.

    • oilie August 21, 2023 at 10:46 am #

      I think that there is a real Sars-Cov2 virus, but a lot of flu cases were inappropriately attributed to it. But whether there is a separate real virus or not, it was necessary to make people believe that there was. No one would have bought the idea of a super flu vaccine that was the only possible treatment. They had to have that emergency use authorization without the normal testing. This was a scam that raked in billions for Pfizer and Moderna and their media and government acolytes.

      • abbybwood August 21, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

        And then there is the famous PCR tests most of us have in mass quantities lurking in our cabinets.

        My son returned from a week long “wedding” (golf trip) in Mexico two weeks ago. Felt like a truck had hit him and took a Covid test. Positive. By then he had been around everyone in the house including the old lady (me) and the little ones (4 and 7) and his wife.

        Once he tested Pos. a few days later my DIL got a bad sore throat and fever but tested Neg. The next day she was positive.

        So the lovebirds stayed in the back of the house and I took care of the kids. My son and DIL both jabbed. Me and the kids no jabs but we all had Covid in 2021.

        I figured because we did not have jabs that we would dodge it because we have natural immunity with long-lasting T-cell protection. Obviously those with jabs are the ones getting Covid 4-5 times and more because the jabs effed up their immune systems.

        So now everyone is neg. for Covid here in the house and the kids and I never showed any sign of illness.

        Naturally with the “new variant” running amok Biden is STILL trying to tell suckers to run out for another “booster” (immune system killer).

        My TV has been off since Tucker got fired. I’m afraid the only way to get people to wake up is to convince them to turn off their damn TVs!!! and go to alternate independent sites for the truth.

        • ThorsHammer August 22, 2023 at 10:37 am #

          @abbywood

          If your have test kits lurking in your medicine cabinet they most certainly are antigen tests, not PCR. PCR tests require laboratory analysis and multiple cycle repetition to produce their results, which can be 95% false positive depending upon how many cycle repetitions are chosen.

          Antigen tests detect the presence of antibodies which are produced as a result of exposure to Covid viruses. They tell nothing about whether you will become ill or even be aware that your immune system has encountered the disease and controlled it..

          Your still have a TV in your household? Aren’t you afraid the children will turn it on and become infected with Biden Diaper Brain? Far better to take it to the local shooting range and enjoy blowing it to smithereens. Every household needs at least a 12 gauge home defense shotgun or deer hunting rifle, and those tools need regular use to remain effective.

          • Yirgach August 22, 2023 at 4:31 pm #

            Yes, reminds me of the wisdom of Don Lancaster, author of the Cheap Video Cookbook in 1978, who recommended finding the end of the power cable to the television and cutting it off.

          • Islander August 23, 2023 at 2:53 pm #

            “multiple cycle repetition”

            I think this is the term that I was looking for, not “amplification.”

    • RocketDoc August 21, 2023 at 10:55 am #

      Is this a Koch’s postulate question? You take a swab from Nose 1 who is sick with “flu” and swab Nose 2 who, is healthy, but comes down sick with a similar disease. There is something on the swab. What if the government sends you a free test and you take a few that are negative but then you get a sore throat? Now you test positive. You drank beer with your friend recently who has some cold/fatigue malady. What do you have? We can call it being sick or Covid-19. I hear you saying the “test” is meaningless. But you’re sick and can’t smell so you have something. But nothing new or novel….

    • AZJJ August 21, 2023 at 11:19 am #

      Covid (genetically enhanced flu, IMO) was just a ruse to get people to take the “vaccines”, the main objective. Covid was never very lethal, though Remdesivir and intubation certainly was.

      The “new, fresh Covid-19 scare for the fall”… is just another Psy-Op to cover for the coming mass “vaccine” deaths…. which they will claim are all due to the “new strain”.

      • Ron Anselmo August 21, 2023 at 11:45 am #

        Nail on head AZJJ, exactly.

        Previously, I never got the flu – in July 2021, down flat for 17 days. Ivermectin worked. Still no taste or smell, two years later.

        The “vaccines” were not for “Covid”, “Covid” was for the “vaccines”.

        Don’t want to even think about the carnage this fall & winter – as you say, from the “new strain”.

        • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

          Hmmm.

          If the immune system over reacts to the coating of the virus and causes respiratory failure, that is the S protein, right?

          So why do we inject ourselves with something that creates s proteins?
          ????

          The Vaxx is mini Covid! That is why the adverse effects to the Vaxx are the same as the disease.

          • Ron Anselmo August 21, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

            “So why do we inject ourselves with something that creates s proteins?” ~ JAZ

            John – we don’t, and didn’t, inject ourselves, nor let anyone else inject us with S proteins.

            Dealing with an “enhanced” flu virus is one thing. S proteins? Out of the question.

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

            John – you might be intereted in the book just out by Doctors 4 Covid Ethics (Afterword by Catherine Austin Fitts) on the mechanisms of harm by the injections:

            doctors4covidethics.org/mRNA-vaccine-toxicity/

            You can read it online or download a pdf.

          • Daddyotis August 21, 2023 at 3:05 pm #

            Wow, thanks for the link, GA! This is just the sort of thing I’ve been looking for!

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 4:12 pm #

            You’re welcome, Daddyotis.

          • MaryQueen August 21, 2023 at 7:56 pm #

            Yes, thanks, G.A.

            That is going in the ever-growing vault.

      • Islander August 23, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

        I agree.

        I smelled a rat as soon as they came out with the name covid-19.
        C’mon.

        Ministry of Silly Plandemic Designations still in full swing.

    • pyrrhus August 21, 2023 at 2:41 pm #

      Ivermectin works against all kinds of viruses, shrinks cancerous tumors, and in my case knocked out a persistent bacterial infection…But don’t expect a lot of research, because the scientist who invented it didn’t patent it, so it’s generic and Pharma can’t make tons of money off it…If it proves to be effective against cancer, they will have to ban it, since cancer is massively profitable…

      • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

        Merck patented it, but the patent has expired, so we saw the unprecedented spectacle of Merck coming out during the ”pandemic” (the fear campaign to push the “vaccine”), and denouncing the drug it profited from for 17 years.

        • Islander August 23, 2023 at 4:31 pm #

          Paula:

          I don’t think this thumbnail covers the situation with either patents or profits.

          Re
          ” and denouncing the drug it profited from for 17 years.”

          Wiki:
          “The initial price proposed by Merck in 1987 was US$6 per treatment, which was unaffordable for patients who most needed ivermectin.[89]

          “The company donated hundreds of millions of courses of treatments since 1988 in more than 30 countries.[89] Between 1995 and 2010, using donated ivermectin to prevent river blindness, the program is estimated to have prevented seven million years of disability at a cost of US$257 million.[90]

          “Ivermectin is considered an inexpensive drug.[91] As of 2019, ivermectin tablets (Stromectol) in the United States were the least expensive treatment option for lice in children at approximately US$9.30, while Sklice, an ivermectin lotion, cost around US$300 for 120 mL (4 US fl oz).[92] ”

          Some of the info on Ivermectin has been available at Wiki sinceat least 2020 (I never looked for it before that), and some Covid propaganda has been added.

  2. rdswysd4 August 21, 2023 at 8:54 am #

    If we allow ourselves to be fooled again (realizing most here will not be fooled of course), we pretty much deserve what we get. If even 20 million people would just have the courage to say F NO this time, we could stop it. IMHO

    • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 9:01 am #

      It starts with more people facing reality and saying so in public.

      Where is the isolate of the mysterious disease?

      Why would a mask stop any kind of sickness, much less cloth or paper masks that were never designed to do so?

      Why was a PCR test used to determine illness when the inventor said this is impossible (and that the test could be abused)?

      Why were statistics manipulated to try and raise the death-rate numbers? Even then, the survival rate was well over 99%.

      Why did most nations roll out identical measures in lockstep that match wargamed scenaros from those pushing the Great Reset?

      Until these questions are asked openly and repeatedly, the public is ripe for further abuse.

      Why are we talking about ivermectin and lab leaks when they cannot even show us what “Covid-19” is?

      • Disaffected August 21, 2023 at 9:06 am #

        I think we’re at the point now where the people who bought into this garbage are emotionally invested in perpetuating it, whether it’s true or not. Cognitive dissonance, it would seem, truly is a bitch.

        • Alfred August 21, 2023 at 9:26 am #

          Actually, cognitive dissonance should motivate people to change their beliefs or behavior. What we have here is a bad case of double-think.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 10:18 am #

            It should, Alfred. But in many cases, what Dis says is true: they just double down.

          • Islander August 21, 2023 at 10:44 am #

            “It’s my story and I’m sticking to it.”

            But of course it is not “their” story.

            Re covid-19, whatever the illness was, people got ill, some of them very ill, and many did die of it.

            I am a great fan of Dr. Yeadon, but his is not the only point of view to be considered on this. Dr. Peter McCullough saw the ill and treated them—kept them out of hospital. Ivermectin was/is an effective treatment, especially to prevent the illness from progressing from stage 1 to stages 2 and 3 (the three stages that McC clearly explained), and, as McCullough emphasized, keeping the ill out of hospital by effective treatment in stage 1 (respiratory).

            So, I think Jim is absolutely on target to lead with the absurdity of the current flip-flops on ivermectin. Because they so clearly lay bare the deliberate lying of our government agencies, their venal ($$$ + cover=up of Wuhan follies) motivations for doing so—hence, the utter UNTRUSTWORTHINESS our govt .

            And THAT, my friend, is the subject of this CFN post, not the covid-19 weeds.

            In a sense, the issue of “does the virus even exist” is actually the distraction issue, IMO. Because we are currently dealing with politics, not science.

            However, I do think it would be interesting for Yeadon and McCullough to have a dialogue on this issue of the existence of the virus, and its features (perhaps they have and I missed it).

            McC has spoken very clearly about the actual evolution of the SARS-CoV-2 virus’s genetics in a medical context. OTOH, genetics is the field where Yeadon is the expert.

            Both of these men are truth seekers—neither one is an ideologue—so the chances to getting somewhere with this question would be pretty good!!!

          • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

            So we’re supposed to just talk about ivermectin for the next five days?

            It was found in the soil of a Japanese golf course. It has never again been found in the natural state.

            It’s not only a miracle drug but a miracle.

          • C.O.Jones August 21, 2023 at 12:31 pm #

            I’ve mentioned cognitive dissonance as being my new favorite spectator sport. The mouth drops open a little, the head tilts slightly to one side….but it’s going to take seeing the people they trusted being led away in chains before some people snap out of the massive gummint induced trance.

            Alas, that’s never going to happen. I appreciate the optimism of our host but I would bet the ranch and $100 against any earnest prosecutions ever happening.

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

            Jarek – Ivermectin is also looking good as a cancer treatment, in combination with another drug whose name I’ve forgotten. Some people have said that was another reason they tried to stop its routine use – because a marked decrease in cancer would have been noticed.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:13 pm #

            “Ivermectin was discovered on a golf course.”

            The juxtaposition is some kind of comedic genius.

          • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

            A golf course owned by one, Donald J Trump?

            No.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 5:23 pm #

            McCullough is a cardiologist.

            Yeadon’s credentials are more applicable, and his approach much more detailed–more like a lawyer who understands how to weigh and measure evidence in a variety of contexts, but with an appropriate medical background and, ofc, a role as vice president at one of the very companies behind the shots (Pfizer).

            I have at times wondered if McCullough like Mallone is there to redirect, but this seems too far fetched. I don’t really know what he is doing, TBH.

            No one has shown us an isolate, and McC makes claims about a disease no one can prove exists.

            A rather odd approach.

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 5:42 pm #

            McCullough addressed the ‘no isolate’ issue in one of his presentations a long time ago. I probably have it somewhere, but don’t fancy listening to the whole 2 hours to find that one point.

            He isn’t the only one, anyway. Others on the ‘virus’ side include: Dr Byram Bridle, Dr Meryl Nass (something of a bioweapons expert), Dr Ryan Cole, Dr Shankara Chetty, Drs Fareed and Tyson, Dr Jessica Rose, Dr Pierre Kory, Dr Sucharit Bakdhi, Dr Richard Urso, Dr Paul Marik, Dr Tess Lawrie and the late Professor Luc Montagnier, Nobel Laureate. In fact most of those writing about covid and the injections, really.

            I’ve bought Cowan’s book, but I haven’t read it yet. If all the professionals in the ‘resistance’ were convinced there were no virus, that would simplify things, but they just aren’t at this point. And they can’t all be stupid. Or owned.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 6:00 pm #

            I don’t care how long the list is.

            Millions also injected themselves after many thousands of people with degrees and high-paying jobs told them the swill was safe and effective.

            One would think that after all of the supposed Covid “cases” that they would have had ample time to isolate and show us the virus. Yet all we have is a computer model.

            Time will tell, but I have found that often in life, when one wants to know the truth, one asks to be shown the truth. Spirituality is another matter.

          • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 10:18 pm #

            Are you all experiencing a shortage of cancer drugs like we are. One of the major ones, cisplatin, we get from one factory in India and they’re having problems. How crazy is that?

          • Heartlander August 21, 2023 at 10:36 pm #

            GreenAlba

            “Ivermectin is also looking good as a cancer treatment, in combination with another drug whose name I’ve forgotten.”

            You may be thinking of fenbendazole.

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 6:56 am #

            I am indeed, Heartlander, thank you. I’ve read about it multiple times, but I never remember its name. 🙂

          • Islander August 22, 2023 at 9:28 am #

            NO:

            Re McCullough/cardiologist:

            It was as a cardiologist that McCullough looked at the disease, yes, because he noticed symptoms that he considered important in its etiology (fancy word/is that correct usage?).

            SARS-CoV-2 means Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, but McC noted the three phases of the illness in patients:

            ” first phase is early viral replication, followed by the second phase cytokine storm and the
            third phase blood clotting . ”

            httpX://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/imo/media/doc/Testimony-McCullough-2020-11-19.pdf

            I don’t have time now to go into weeds on this as I have other stuff to do, such as watering my flower beds.

            However, I am curious as to why you now seem to be badmouthing McC.

        • Penelope Dreadful August 21, 2023 at 9:49 am #

          Like I have started saying, “Most Americans are Sovereign Citizens now.”

          I like to watch the SovCits youtube videos where they get their car windows smashed, and hauled off to jail, because they are “traveling”, not driving, blah blah blah. And they are so sincerely caught up in their ludicrous pseudo-law theories.

          It hit me about a week back, that as stupid as they are, their mindset is the same as about half or more of Americans’ mindsets – in that they believe obvious crap, and they will not stop believing no matter how hard Reality whomps ’em upside the head.

          So, I now predict, that no matter how hard Reality whomps America upside the head, they are only going to cling more fiercely to the Stupid Beliefs that got us here.

          • izzy August 21, 2023 at 10:14 am #

            Unfortunately, you’re probably right.
            Critical thinking has withered like a vestigial organ.

          • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:19 am #

            And they’ll vote democrat in 2024.

          • dilbert113 August 21, 2023 at 10:58 am #

            It is very easy to fool someone, and very difficult to convince someone that they have been fooled.

          • BackRowHeckler August 21, 2023 at 3:31 pm #

            Sovereign Citizens are always citing ‘Blacks Law Dictionary’, & the ‘British Admiralty Code of 1769’ as to why they don’t have a DL, their car is not registered, and they have no proof of insurance certificate.

            It’s usually in the middle of spouting this arcane legal sounding bulls#t that the Officers patience wears thin, the baton comes out, the drivers side window is shattered, & the ‘Sovereign Citizen’ is unceremoniously dragged from his car, tossed on the ground, and placed in handcuffs lol.

            Incidentally, I bought a copy of ‘Blacks Law Dictionary’ at our local Goodwill for $3. It is a legit book, mostly explaining the meaning of Latin words, terms and phrases as it applies to US law.

          • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 5:11 pm #

            White sovereign citizens just want to be left alone.

            Black sovereign citizens think they own your home.

          • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 5:13 pm #

            Of course being left alone isn’t possible in this regard. Do you want people driving who can’t see? Who don’t have any working breaks? Who are fucking crazy?

            By all means they should be allowed to do so – on their own private roads. Not ours.

          • MaryQueen August 21, 2023 at 8:04 pm #

            I saw one of those vids, Penelope, and the driver was drunk.

            LOL, still clinging to the SovCit belief, as she was dragged off the jail. I can’t imagine how sick of hearing that police officers must be.

          • Champ Or Chump August 21, 2023 at 10:18 pm #

            George Carlin made a deal to be famous and was allowed to give us disclosure about how the system is rigged.
            Technically we are all sovereigns no matter what because we have true free will, regardless if expressing it results in somebody else using their free will to kill us. The term “sovereign citizen” is an oxymoron that can really only be applied in jest to authorities (occupational municipal servants) who get away with causing harm without consequences by having the support of their gang. It blows my mind that there are people who truly believe that spouting off a sequence of words or writing them down will prevent individuals from using their free will to cause violent harm to lethal extent.

        • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2023 at 10:15 am #

          RFK Jr. and “climate”.

        • Not_GeorgeT August 21, 2023 at 10:18 am #

          “I think we’re at the point now where the people who bought into this garbage are emotionally invested in perpetuating it, whether it’s true or not”

          I think yes, this is the reality, as absurd as it sounds when spoken.

          I refer to ‘the jab’ as a bioweapon in any converstaion where I can insert the phrase.

          Crickets.

          • Ron Anselmo August 21, 2023 at 11:31 am #

            Yes NGT – a bioweapon. Just finished reading Cause Unknown by Ed Dowd. The data is staggering.

        • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

          Yes, stopping now would be to admit they were wrong. That is unbearable for many.

      • RCAnderson August 21, 2023 at 11:03 am #

        Absolutely right on! Send this list to your congressman and demand they ask these questions when the time comes!

        • RCAnderson August 21, 2023 at 11:06 am #

          I was replying to Night Owl, BTW

        • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

          I’ve been over in Germany for too long now, RC.

          I do what I can here though.

      • WilliamShatnersPants August 21, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

        Of course it was a plot…

        However, it took some doing to get TPTB to take the actions they took at the beginning of the pandemic. Michale Lewis wrote an extraordinary book about this called “The Premonition”.

        theguardian.com/books/2021/may/05/the-premonition-by-michael-lewis-review-a-pandemic-story

        Even if you don’t like the fact that he’s not in agreement with you, Michael Lewis is such a great writer, you will enjoy this exposé of how the social distancing trope arose.

        • CirclesnCircles August 22, 2023 at 4:25 am #

          I read that book and about halfway thru it became clear to me that Lewis was hired to write it as some sort of way to bitch slap Trump.

          I don’t give a flip about Trump but, I can tell a hit job when I see one. It was also obvious that he embellished details about and hyped the two main Doctors featured. I’ve discerned him do similar in some other books he’s authored.

          He is an entertaining writer but, I’d never take what he puts forth as necessarily factual.

          • WilliamShatnersPants August 22, 2023 at 8:05 pm #

            CnCs…that conclusion on your part (some sort of way to bitch slap Trump) is entirely subjective. If anything, I’d say Trump got off very lightly in this work, considering how incompetent he was in the event. Lewis gave him a much sounder drubbing in “The Fifth Risk”.

          • CirclesnCircles August 22, 2023 at 10:01 pm #

            WmPants – the book pubbed on May 4, 2021. Which means the manuscript would have been finished by early Jan 2021, at the latest. Then there’s editing, preproduction, finalizing marketing, putting it to press, distribution, etc.

            I agree that he didn’t come down that hard on Trump but, that’s for two obvious reasons:
            1) He’s gathering all that material thru 2020 while the waters were VERY muddy, much was shutdown and few people had clarity incl the idiots at the CDC/NIH, etc. (Did he bash those fools? No, I don’t recall he did but, they deserved it royally.)
            2) He and his publisher want to SELL BOOKS and taking a very partisan stance would have whacked potential sales considerably.

            Lewis is a dedicated Lib, best I can tell, and if he wrote a book now about the whole Covid event, he’d have to give VERY BAD marks to Brandon Biden. Therefore, I predict he will not write such book. The Premonition was a veiled partisan swipe and not much more.

        • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

          I’m not going to read the book, but I read the review.

          So the problem with the covid “pandemic” is that no one took it seriously enough to “do something”?

          And yet the entire world, except for Sweden and Tanzania, locked down their populations, the media screamed of nothing else, the medical profession was inundated with propaganda, and the population of the world was told that they had to be injected with a special GMO product in order to be “safe”.

          What the hell does Michael Lewis, then, consider “doing something”.

          And the whole “they never expected this” completely ignores Event 201.
          “They weren’t prepared.”

          Yeah, right.

          • WilliamShatnersPants August 22, 2023 at 8:07 pm #

            Paula D:

            Yeah, well, when you START with the “wrongest” ideas available, you are naturally going to find all your opinions validated. Enjoy!

  3. Alfred August 21, 2023 at 8:57 am #

    I was recently acquainted with “Plato’s Cave”

    He wrote that bit of empirical wisdom 2,398 years ago.

    “Same as it ever was…”

    Talking Heads

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

      He hated democracy with a passion. All sensible people do. The average person has the right to not have to make decisions on things they don’t understand, can’t understand, and have no interest in trying to understand.

  4. Disaffected August 21, 2023 at 9:02 am #

    Pulled up to a local woman at a stoplight Friday wearing a mask all neat and proper in her car all alone. The pump is apparently still primed.

    • Disaffected August 21, 2023 at 9:18 am #

      Not to mention the cyclist I saw puffing up the slight rise outside my place yesterday. He was putting some pretty good effort into it, so maybe he was using the mask as an oxygen restrictor to enhance the training effect, as if 7,200′ altitude isn’t enough already. Some people are like that.

    • liber8tor August 21, 2023 at 9:21 am #

      True that .(SMH) Or daytime TV like the Kelly Clarkson Show, where everyone in the audience is wearing a matching-color face diaper. Lemmings and sheep in a herd.

      • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:20 am #

        They’re trained to be that way in the public school system.

        • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

          I saw a video of kid diving with his mask on. He came up for air and took it off. Put it back on when he went to dive.

          It’s gills too!

    • happiface August 21, 2023 at 9:24 am #

      yeah it blows me away to see people still masking it–besides insane they have to be very very low IQ–fear based…

      • draupnir August 21, 2023 at 9:51 am #

        They still make us mask up in the doctor’s office here.

      • beantownbill. August 21, 2023 at 11:29 am #

        My wife has an incurable (but manageable) blood cancer. She must not get any infection; an infection could kill her. She must wear a mask in large crowds, and therefore so do I, as I could infect her.

        I agree that wearing masks is silly – but not for everyone. There’s exceptions, and my wife and I are in that group. It’s not just flu, even bacteria can be deadly for her. So far, here in Massachusetts, no one has commented to us. I’m just waiting for someone to do so; then I’ll tear them apart – loudly. BTW, we do not wear masks in our car. That is beyond silly – just stupid.

        So if you see someone wearing a mask and you want to comment on it to them, ask the person if they are sick or have some condition first. If they say no, then you can get down on them.

        • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

          A mask won’t protect her in large crowds if someone is shedding a contagious virus near her, Bill. Obviously, the chances are low, but they are increased if the space is small and has poor air circulation, and you are there for longer than 20 ;minutes.

          Best to avoid crowds if you are immunocompromised.

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

            But if the government is spraying a new variant there is little to protect you.

            They rely on blithering idiots to robotically chant “You aren’t/weren’t sick. There is no test to prove you are sick. You have 5G exposure” to get away with it.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

            Atlas: “Doctors wear masks bc it blocks their saliva from going into a sterile wound when they’re doing a surgical procedure. If [your doctor] is wearing a surgical mask because he thinks it’s stopping a virus from spreading, you need to change doctors.”

            https://twitter.com/ScottAtlas_IT/status/1674962275042729984?s=20

          • RocketDoc August 21, 2023 at 2:27 pm #

            Dentists wear masks to minimize bad breath (and tuna fish for lunch) or a number of late afternoon nips. And don’t want to smell yours either.

        • Slugoon August 21, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

          Surely a mask promotes bacterial build up?

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:25 pm #

            After about two hours it is a petri dish.

            They had my kid wearing one for 6 hours a day. We fought tooth and nail, but home schooling is illegal here.

            I will never forgive those who did this or enabled it.

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 4:28 pm #

            Bacteria and fungus. Both love warmth and moisture, and both can feed on your skin cells that shed.
            I went to a park with a young woman who had fanatically wore a mask, and even quit her job as a teacher because the principal refused to mandate masks for the kids.

            She wasn’t wearing a mask at the park, and I noted that she had a perfect shape of a mask around her mouth, which I assume was a fungus.

            That’s how they learn.

    • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 10:22 am #

      It’s a political/lifestyle statement, too.

      There is a guy in one of my bands who still makes a show of putting on his mask at the end of every practice.

      Leaves it off all practice (indoors), and then goes to the center of the room and makes sure we all see him putting it on before heading out into the fresh air.

      It is a lovely shade of fash black.

      • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 11:30 am #

        NO

        You have hit it on the head.

        These are narcissistic people who refuse to admit that the government has duped THEM.

        That is why Trump for example cannot admit he was a fool to listen to Pence, Fauci, and Birx.

        Narcissism is one big contribution to the apparent arrogant stupidity of a people.

        Remember Jesus talking about the priests and Pharisees always dressing up and acting superior to the folks of his time? Those vestiments were the Masks of Jesus’ time.

        • dilbert113 August 21, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

          OK. . .well as I said earlier on here, it is very easy to fool someone, and almost impossible to convince someone that they have been fooled. Do I think that Trump was “a fool” for trusting his own Vice President? Of course not. How was he supposed to know that Pence was a traitor? And Fauci presented as a sincere, honest government doctor who wanted to keep us all safe. None of that was true, of course, but how was he supposed to know this? He is just a man, not some kind of deity that can read people’s minds. As for “narcissists”, Obama will repeatedly refer to himself dozens of times in minutes. Follow his speeches, the words me, myself, and I come up literally nonstop. Trump’s inauguration speech was the exact opposite and was intentionally not self-referential at all. He made it clear that he came to the White House to serve the people, not himself. So yes, narcissism is a huge problem, but please don’t paint with too broad a brush.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

            He did know that Fauci was all wet.

            He had to know that his own task force was thwarting everything he wanted to do, and believed was the right thing to do.

            He even talked about firing Fauci, and stated the reason he chose not to.

            Fauci had a well known bad record and never should have ended up on that task force in the first place.

            He blew it. It was HIS task force, so he had the ultimate responsibility, and he blew it.

        • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 5:16 pm #

          Yes, John, they most certainly are.

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

      Why not have masks on the car vents as well?

      Trent was doing hills with an N95 on. Thought he was doing himself a world of good.

    • bobfitz03 August 21, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

      There is unfortunately a significant chunk of the population who can’t wait for the COVID program to start up again. Bottom line: they miss it.

      The COVID scam brought clearly into focus how many people want to be controlled and control others in turn (with the option to apply brutal punishment for non-compliance).

      They miss the unified directives from trusted authority. They miss the sense of noble purpose. They miss the social distancing. They miss the masks. They miss the lock downs. They miss the isolation. They miss the dancing nurses. They miss living life through social media. They miss shaming non-compliance. They miss calling for public executions. They miss reveling in the deaths of those who oppose them. They miss being infected. They miss blaming others for their infection. They miss the sacrifice. They miss the ritual. They miss the certainty.

      Neve mind it was all bullshit. That is beside the point.

      Say what you will, Central Planning has done a real number on the population of this planet. In the days ahead, they will push the limits of the programming. Why not? The willing have been able so far.

      • Slugoon August 21, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

        Screenshotted. Explains the psyche of the Covid cultist perfectly. It doesn’t matter whether it was dangerous or that they were lied to about almost everything.

      • MaryQueen August 21, 2023 at 8:09 pm #

        Awesome comment.

      • CirclesnCircles August 22, 2023 at 4:36 am #

        @bobfitz – Who are these weirdos that you live around? In some libtarded hellhole?

        I do not think there are very many of those nuts – wishing for Covid again – in my Midwestern metro. It counts to live around mostly sane people (although plenty of them weren’t sane enough to not get jabbed.)

        • C.O.Jones August 22, 2023 at 11:34 am #

          A very astute comment by bobfitz!

          CirclesnCircles – my ex-wife fits that profile perfectly.

          She made out her will early in the scam, back when they were showing the Chinese on the streetcorners ostensibly dropping dead. She tried to get me to sign a document saying I had no equity in the paid-off house we shared pre-divorce. (I declined.)

          She kept getting tested and re-tested showing negative every time which infuriated her. She wanted into the club.

          The across the street neighbor called her and informed her that she saw me in the grocery store and I was the only person not wearing a mask! (Oh the humanity!) Not sure if she left out the part about me waving my middle finger when the loudspeaker in the grocery store blared “remember Publix, shoppers – we’re all in this together so be sure to wear your mask!”

          Everybody on my street in north Georgia was wearing masks while mowing the lawn or walking the dog.I sneered at them.

          My ex-wife eventually filed for divorce, citing irreconcilable differences and actually listing one of them as my refusal to wear a mask and take the death jab. The female judge was nonplussed but granted the divorce and gave me 45 days to move.

          Yeah, they are out there. I hold zero hope that ‘Murkins will stand up and say “This crap again? You can’t be serious!” when told to mask up. They don’t have the brains nor the bawse.

    • Cactus Girl August 21, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

      @Disaffected:

      “wearing a mask all neat and proper in her car all alone.”

      I’ve actually been considering doing this. (Wearing a mask while driving). Did you know that if a traffic camera catches you doing something you shouldn’t, the face behind the wheel HAS to be identifiable or they can’t fine you? Just sayin’…

      • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 2:25 pm #

        On a related point, there’s an English guy who does a lot of talks on 5G and on facial recognition cameras. He wears mirrored sunglasses everywhere as he says they foil the facial recognition cameras.

        They look a bit naff but I may well get some for future use! Eventually they will be made illegal, of course, if too many people try that.

      • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

        The covid restrictions were the perfect time to rob a bank.

  5. Merkwurdiglieb August 21, 2023 at 9:19 am #

    All of this chicanery, however outrageous, is, to me, clearly the result of Peak Oil which Jim has written about extensively. That is, Peak Oil which implies Peak Finance and Peak Human Population. And now the REAL Great Reset begins in response to that strange geolgic phenomenon. Mass Extinction/ Extermination, by vaccine, deliverately provoked nuclear holocaust or the summoning of a large asteroid by Herr Schwab via that little transponder on his Buck Rodgers costume.

    • mitchellc August 21, 2023 at 10:18 am #

      While I agree with NO who thinks covid is a distraction (or control component) from the great reset, the real action is the fight over who controls the last great stores of natural resources.

      That’s why the US is just but one theater in this world wide conflict. Ukraine, China, Europe – all parts of a larger puzzle, which we can call “total global conquest”.

      This is the game for the ages, contested by those who have so much more than everything they need that they are intensely bored with life. Ah, to live forever, holding sway over humanity for entertainment purposes.

      Now, as to who or who not may be natural allies in this fight, why align with those with mere geographical proximity? Your “fellow citizens” were tested and failed; to allay any doubt, look at the those willing to fall into line once again.

      No, you need to broader your perspective, understand what is occurring and scan the horizon for potential safe harbors.

      • Billy Hill August 21, 2023 at 10:34 am #

        Sixth Mass Extinction Coming!
        Here’s How To Profit —–

        • RCAnderson August 21, 2023 at 11:08 am #

          LOL, “The world will end in 8 years” Here’s how to profit! (Wait, what??)”

      • Islander August 21, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

        The problem is that fighting over the resources is a huge waste of the resources.

        Plus, the US military is the biggest polluter on Earth.

        Military = pollution and waste of resources.

        All elites are wasting resources by flying around all the time. In private jets.

        I best most air freight is also for elites.

        Heads of states’ huge security and SUV convoys are also a huge waste of resources.

        Basically, elites are resource sinks, black holes.

    • GrantK August 21, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

      I believe peak oil is the background mover we dont hear about.

      Perhaps to these sick, inbred, low IQ demon spawn vampire squids, it is a blessing to the common folk to genocide them carefully and compassionately, to save a more horrific fall when E production falls and societies collapse…. better a managed and orderly die off than a mad max, eh?

      Its for their own good. And their minions, who are the smart ones, execute the models, the planning scenarios, carefully monitoring kill and sterility rates, promoting population replacement all the while, empty out all those lands full of folk who have a lingering belief in ‘democracy’….. maybe a limited exchange of nucs will really set the seal on population fear and compliance, or UFO’s? Throw everything at them, really collapse their vigor with bad food, NO food, dangerous and deadly pharma goods, throw a war at them, all the while the great reset lurks with digi currency and total control for the survivors. Set Canada, and hawaii on fire with curious interlocking fires that firefighters cant extinguish, and so on…. climate lockdowns anyone?

      Its for their own good, I mean allowing our societal systems to genuinely grapple with loss of E via peak oil is just mad max waiting….. and so the Vsquids tell themselves.

      • Merkwurdiglieb August 21, 2023 at 5:15 pm #

        Grant, I too have believed for many years that Peak Oil is the ultimate culprit behind all of it. Petroleum is so important a commodity that modern civilization cannot continue without it. If it could then there wouldn’t be so much chaos as of late. The financial house of cards would not be teetering. All the insane ideas would not be digging in their heels. The U.S. wouldn’t be provoking other nations with war or sanctions. The list goes on. Forget about partisan politics and even the absurd actions and agendas by the liberal what’s left. It’s about the Oil! And, as Jim has written, the ruling class in this country really doesn’t know what to do about their empire slipping away. They’ve lost their minds. Don’t let them take yours!

        • Champ Or Chump August 21, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

          Personally, I find it somewhat hard to believe that Peak Oil is primarily an emergent phenomenon. At face value, this entire sacrificial cult civilization has the appearance and symbology of an occult plan that was set into motion years ago. There is predictive programming about 9/11 and COVID-19 that was produced in the early 20th century. I think the growth and failure of oil and automobile dependent urban sprawl is yet another staged event. Although narcissistic psychopaths and sociopaths have impaired judgements, the ruling class definitely could’ve foreseen the current predicament far enough in advance. Our judgements have also been impaired by the indoctrination that was intended to lull us into a state of suspended adolescence. Rejecting the Great Reset/NWO may very well be just the tip of a larger and more drawn out control plan.

          • Merkwurdiglieb August 22, 2023 at 5:27 am #

            Oh, CoC I have no doubt that demonic forces have been in play since before the time of Christ, let alone the twentieth century and have ever sought to gaslight the people. But if you subscribe to Kunstler’s (and others’) work you’ll truly understand the phenomenon and the fact that the PTB not only COULD have seen foreseen the current predicament they actually DID. They knew of it at least as far back as the 1970’s (Three Days of the Condor).

            But who in power even then would have pursued the correct long term course when enormous profits were still to be made still for several decades? The defense contractors especially were eager to ramp up production to assist in the pursuit of foreign interests, i.e., bomb the shit out of those damn Bedouins who were holding “our” oil hostage underneath their land.

            No CoC, you seem to believe that, when faced with undeniable facts, people will do take most rational course. The evidence now shows otherwise.

          • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

            Yes, they have known about it for a long time. Oil depletion allowances are a century old, I believe.

            And the 70s were a time when a few efforts were made.

            But yeah, Three Days of The Condor, and then the election of Reagan, showed that our overlords gave up on trying to get Americans to slow down and let off the throttle.
            The attitude was “Fuck future generations, I want it all now”. (That attitude still rules.)

            Since 1980 oil usage has skyrocketed. But it turns out that fucking the kids (once meant figuratively, not they are pushing it literally), has a drawback. Many people who thought they could use it all up, and be dead before the end, are finding out that they are actually still alive.
            Doh!

            Another part of Three Days of The Condor that was a foreshadowy giveaway was the part where the Robert Redford character threatens to take his information to the New York Times, and his boss tells him “What makes you think they’ll print it?”

            But there are still people today, 50 years later, who pathetically believe that “They could never get away with that. Someone would spill the beans.”

            Yeah, right. To whom?

          • Champ Or Chump August 25, 2023 at 1:25 am #

            Merkwurdiglieb,

            I don’t believe that people will take the most rational course. I do believe that the PTB are just puppets being controlled by demonic forces. I don’t think they’re concerned about their empire slipping away because it’s a sacrificial cult that’s designed to fail as part of the world stage show.

      • Champ Or Chump August 21, 2023 at 9:20 pm #

        I wouldn’t underestimate their plans. Perhaps they want us to think of them as sick, inbred, low IQ demon spawn vampire squids. They didn’t necessarily have to lift the lockdowns or the vaccine mandates.They did so because they know it makes us less vigilant. The masses were eager to forget COVID-19, because reality is too traumatizing to face. It’s possible that they could unleash all that destruction upon us and then pretend to retreat again or pretend to be defeated. If we won against their plans, what would it look truly like? Would the masses be able to distinguish the difference between a real victory and a manufactured one? Probably not.

  6. Dr. Coyote August 21, 2023 at 9:21 am #

    Same deal as with the Maui fires, where authority is in full assclown mode. Watch for more of the same official foolishness later today as the Hilary-related flooding in SoCal starts to stack bodies.

    We’re in for a heavy couple of weeks of propaganda, even in excess of the usual load.

    • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

      Do you think that they named it Hilary so that the headlines could say

      “Hilary takes 3 more victims.”

      • Dr. Coyote August 21, 2023 at 6:59 pm #

        I did see where the Babylon Bee reported that any fatalities from this storm would be labeled suicides. I just want to know how they’re going to get the bodies from LA to Ft. Marcy Park.

        • MaryQueen August 21, 2023 at 8:11 pm #

          With two bullets each in the back of the head.

    • Champ Or Chump August 21, 2023 at 9:41 pm #

      Authorities are always in full assclown mode. They’re gangbangers who are expected to be willing to murder anybody for the pedophile ruling class. There are people who think they can follow a process that was predetermined by the elites and legally claim to be sovereigns despite the fact that children who are sex trafficked and/or murdered by the elites can’t make the same legal claim. We shouldn’t be surprised about any of the shit that is happening.

  7. chopper August 21, 2023 at 9:25 am #

    Jim the rot is so deep that it can not be corrected by our normal means of adjusting an unjust government. I am with Jefferson’s prediction that revolution is needed to flush the system when the bastards have locked themselves into seats of power. They will take us to war to retain power if we only try tinkering with the usual public input levers of our justice system. They also know it only takes a small percent of the population to become committed to an overthrow of a corrupt government for real change to take place. They also know revolutions are very sloppy about drawing fine lines about who did what and when. Fear will drive them to extremes. Be prepared as the boy scouts say. Tomorrow will be different that today.

    • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:23 am #

      That’s what I’ve been saying for some time, now. That the mechanisms for peaceful change given to us by the founding fathers no longer work.

      • dilbert113 August 21, 2023 at 11:02 am #

        I agree with what you both are saying. That said, there would need to be some kind of major “trigger event” to kick off an armed revolution. No one is going to take up arms against their government because the price of gas is too high, or their mortgage interest rate went up. In addition, think carefully of what you wish for. I think a revolution would lead to a break-up of the United States, as happened to the USSR. Things would never be the same again. Is the end of the USA really an outcome people want, that would be an improvement. . .or would it just lead to endless violence and acrimony between a set of much smaller nations, occupying this part of the north American continent?

        • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

          I think that the most likely cause of an armed rebellion, perhaps the only one, would be gas shortages/price increases.

          • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

            Dylan Roof as a revolutionary hero? Did you come up with that or did that come from your cell leader?

            It’s an absolute loser btw. We don’t talk up this kid at all, what to speak of ordinary people.

        • cbeard August 21, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

          It doesn’t matter if the people want the end of the USA or not. I believe it is inevitable. Just a matter of time. The country is fixated on the lies of diversity and give me your tired and weary yada, yada. You are probably right about a revolution causing the breakup of the country. When the country was primarily white European stock, we had a better chance of making things work. It is impossible to deport enough people to make any difference. We must have a break up and eventually separation in order to have a livable country.

          • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

            And only the White part will be America in any real sense.

            You can’t change the people and still have the same nation. To believe otherwise shows that people have no idea of what a nation is.

    • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 11:39 am #

      Chopper

      Jefferson plus a lot of friends overthrew an oppressive government “across the pond”. Taxes were a big part, but the heart of it was the domination of America’s future by a government that wanted colonialism here, we send raw materials and they get the value added manufacturing.

      Realize that the people who understand know that what this Deep State government is doing is worse than what the FF faced from England. DC is worse than George the 3rd. Our number one enemy is the Deep State.

    • Q. Shtik August 21, 2023 at 11:55 am #

      Tomorrow will be different that today. – chopper

      ==========

      than

      Not a typo.

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

      The experience of the Church is that a fallen order cannot be reformed. The corrupt will just lie low and then reconstitute themselves easily, since the old relationships can be revived and the network reestablished.

  8. Ishabaka August 21, 2023 at 9:34 am #

    Maui is where Woke got real. No longer “Go Woke, go broke”, now “Go Woke, go toast”.

    • RCAnderson August 21, 2023 at 11:11 am #

      I think they’re blatantly showing us it’s them and their geoengineering and DEWs behind all this: Maui gets crisped by fires instead of the more natural hurricane/flooding/winds etc., and now Palm Springs, CA, a desert community often threatened by wildfires, is being washed away by a hurricane’s flooding. WTF?

      • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        I had not thought of that angle. That is a very good point.

    • elysianfield August 21, 2023 at 11:12 am #

      …Go Woke, up in Smoke?

      • elysianfield August 21, 2023 at 11:14 am #

        …Go Woke, get soaked?

    • Champ Or Chump August 21, 2023 at 9:47 pm #

      “Grow up with woke, blow up and croak”

  9. James Long Hale August 21, 2023 at 9:46 am #

    It may be (and probably is) much worse, considering that the greater hoax could be that virology itself is the Flat Earth version of modern medical theory. What if, as some not inconsequential researchers maintain (Cowan, Kaufman, et.al.), viruses simply do not exist, there is no such thing as “infectious transmission” of disease, and that all illness is the result of environmental factors (a.k.a. “terrain”), be they physical and/or psychological?

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

      A sick person is an environmental factor. In any case, it’s been noticed since ancient times that the sick were a threat to others. They just didn’t understand the mechanism of transmission.

      People vary tremendously in their resistance. And that is a factor the Cowan and Kaufman get, and that the mainstream does not.

      • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

        I learned that in microbiology 40 years ago.

        Your chance of getting sick from a sick person depend on the virulence of the pathogen, the dose you receive, and the health of your immune system. Those three things are key.

        That the immune system is now some Great Revelation by Cowan and Kaufman just shows how much society has forgotten what it used to know. Their claims that there are no such things as viruses are part of the great dumbing down.

        Rather like the New Biology, in which they teach that genitals don’t determine your sex, your feelings do, instead.

        • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 5:18 pm #

          Yes, even the liberal minded like Tucker focused on gained immunity from having fought off the disease – not simple natural immunity. If the former is better than a vaccine, how much better again is the latter?

          Of course anyone can get run down. One has to watch for that, use supplements, get more rest, etc.

          • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

            That’s what natural immunity is, Jarek, the immunity you get from recovering from a disease, and your B and T cells retain the memory.

            I think you are referring to your first line immune defenses, which are powerful enough to keep you from ever succumbing to most exposures in the first place, unless it is an especially powerful pathogen and you receive too large a dose for your first line defenses to handle.

          • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

            The first line defenses are called your innate immune system.

  10. DyersEve August 21, 2023 at 9:54 am #

    Won’t Get Fooled Again is a great Who song but not a really viable working motto for American public. It seems more than half the country is fully willing to get fooled again. National divorce is more reasonable at this point.

    • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:24 am #

      Would anyone really notice if that half of the country just disappeared?

    • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:52 am #

      And more than half always will be willing to get fooled again. It’s just easier than thinking, which most of them can’t do, anyway. They weren’t trained to. They just want to be entertained. They’re like the people on top of the building in the movie Independence Day welcoming the aliens as the aliens are preparing to toast them.

  11. stonned August 21, 2023 at 9:55 am #

    You’re in the midst of your very own COLOR REVOLUTION, brought to you by the BEEEEEG MONEEEEE degenerate, deviant, psychopathic and sociopathic ZIO-GLOBALIST OLIGARCH PARASITES who will NEVER EVER stop their campaign to gain COMPLETE GLOBAL HEGEMONY.

    They continue to install THEIR stooges in “YOUR” government, regardless of “party”. Which is at least one very good reason why YOU are SCHTUPPED, and will keep on getting it good and hard, until you drop to the floor and have a nice long dirt nap.

    YOU are, putting it “politely”, (as they did just a few years ago), NON-ESSENTIAL.

    Do YOU understand yet, goy ?

    READ THIS > (June 25, 1982) >

    “OUR race is the master race….WE are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races, as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals–cattle at best. Other races are considered human excrement….OUR destiny, is to rule over the inferior races. OUR earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick OUR feet and serve us, as OUR slaves”. — Menachem Begin, PM, Israel, 1977-1983)

    • MX Vet 57 August 21, 2023 at 10:16 am #

      Jim, you really should boot this anti-semite fucktard.

      • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:44 pm #

        Yeah but is it real? Did Begin really say it?

        Why didn’t you ask that first?

    • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:25 am #

      Yeah, that’s not what God thinks. They only became His chosen people because of Abraham’s obedience, not because they’re “better” people, and God tried to tell them that a lot of times over the years.

      • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:26 am #

        Same thing with Pharaoh in Egypt. God told him that he was only pharaoh to bring God glory, not because he was the best man for the job.

        • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 11:50 am #

          The Hebrews were an entry point for Yahweh, the true God, to “compete” with the hundreds of man created deities that existed. The Old Testament is loaded with episodes of God duking it our with Baal et al and always winning. It went on for centuries.

          Our last sermon talked about the end of Kings1+2. You mention Pharoah and Egypt being the victims of Yahweh when the Passover happened. Is it ironic that the last King of Judah was deposed by Pharoah and armies from Egypt at the time. Eventually, Babylon clobbered al, of them and took the ruling class of Judah and Israel back to Babylon in slavery.

          When God turns away, it is not good. Think America, you perverted people.

    • elysianfield August 21, 2023 at 11:10 am #

      Stonned,
      You should never believe anything you see, hear or read on the Internets….

      If you wish to be taken seriously, you would need a hell of a lot more documentation and references…verifiable documentation. Otherwise, it is just more bullshit from the usual suspects.

      But then there is this…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC10VWDTzmU

      • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

        That kind of bullshit was spread long before the internet.

    • Heartlander August 21, 2023 at 11:25 pm #

      Fake quote.

      And vile, to boot.

      • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

        People believe the darndest things.

      • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 7:49 pm #

        How do you know that?

  12. diggy August 21, 2023 at 9:55 am #

    Unfortunately we will be fooled again – the editorials in my nearly liberal city are still praising the vaccines and the awfulness of the unvaccinated.

    I have no doubt if requested to mask they will all mask, and I requested to stay home they will all stay home.

    They killed thousands by blocking ivermectin and most docs still won’t prescribe it – that’s the reality.

    • JackStraw August 21, 2023 at 10:13 am #

      I believe you’re right. Most people lack any critical thinking ability or do any reading anymore, so they’ll simply follow orders and go back to pointing fingers at the small minority who refuse to get in line.

      • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:29 am #

        That’s about right. Isn’t the reading level of the general public around the 6th or 7th grade?

      • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:44 am #

        And will still believe that the unvaxxed can infect the vaxxed.

      • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

        Most people will be more rational if they never go to school and get their heads filled up with stuff to the point of congestion.

        You have to go all in and come out the other side – or never go in at all. I’ve met simple men who have little intellectual interest who can take out their mind and use it like they would take out a tool from their garage

        • Ron Anselmo August 21, 2023 at 10:25 pm #

          You’re right Janos – most people don’t understand the concept of mind space. Most, too far congested – like a cluttered closet – a bunch of old, secondhand things and room for nothing new.

    • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:49 am #

      Keep voting for those elected representatives!

    • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 11:52 am #

      Cities are liberal and dependent because they have to be. Someone has to bring them everything they need.

    • Amman August 22, 2023 at 4:01 am #

      What will you do?

  13. oldandtired August 21, 2023 at 10:11 am #

    Not one thing is going right for this nation. The bolus of unlawful/criminal/infectious humanity remains immiscible throughout the entire length of Mexico only to disperse after crossing the US border.

    How many millions have entered the US illegally in the last 2 years? None vetted for diseases not common in the US but common in other parts of the world.

    Which also begs the question, is the US now part of Mexico, or is Mexico now part of the US?

    • elysianfield August 21, 2023 at 10:59 am #

      Tired,
      Well, the Situational Awareness this AM reports;

      (9) GÁLVEZ SELLS “MEXICAN DREAM” IN TEXAS: Mexican senator and presidential candidate Xóchitl Gálvez was in Houston, Texas, over the weekend to meet with migrants, where she pledged to build the “Mexican Dream.”

      Galves was merely campaigning to migrants towards her presidency in the upcoming Mexican election.

      For now.

      What would the ” Mexican Dream” look like?

      Perhaps we will soon see Haitian politicians campaigning in the ghetto? What would their dream look like?

      • malthuss August 21, 2023 at 11:13 am #

        1 in 3 or 4 Haitians is already in USA. prove me wrong.

        • elysianfield August 21, 2023 at 11:15 am #

          Malthuss,

          Who knows? I can’t see them from my house…..

        • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 11:54 am #

          Well, I would first argue that, if you were right, you would know if it is 1-in-3 or 1-in-4.

          FYI – The responsibility of proof is on the one making the claim, not those listening to outlandish claims.

          “My Mom’s younger sister was half-elephant. She had a trunk and everything. Prove me wrong.”

      • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

        They have mail-in ballots in Mexico?

      • Amman August 22, 2023 at 4:27 am #

        Mexican dream?

        I reckon it would look something like this here below… or better.

        Xhttps://i0.wp.com/mexicodailypost.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/clase-media-mx.jpg?fit=650%2C436&ssl=1

      • benr August 22, 2023 at 10:39 pm #

        La Raza, La Mecha and the Reconquista movement.
        Look it up they literally tell you the plan along with glorifying the
        plan of San Diego.

        The motto:
        For the race everything for you nada!

    • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 11:55 am #

      Tired

      Answer me a question.

      Who controls most off the activities in the US now?

      The federal government OR

      The Mexican cartels.

      Easy answer, just look at the border.

      • oldandtired August 21, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

        John,
        My feeling is that the American People may fear their government.

        Their government may fear the cartels.

        The cartels fear no man.

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 21, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

          Damn, did you just sum it all up in three sentences…

          • benr August 22, 2023 at 10:40 pm #

            Plata O Plomo?

    • RCAnderson August 21, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

      I saw a report the other day that showed that almost none of the people crossing the southern border are Mexican or even Central American but mostly Middle Easterners and Africans, which means they’re being shipped here; they are doing to us what they’ve done to France, UK, and Sweden: overwhelming us w/ foreigners and foreign cultures to dilute and destroy our national culture so we’ll be more “global”. I hope this can all be reversed at some point.

      • Heartlander August 21, 2023 at 11:39 pm #

        Don’t forget Chinese and other Asians.

        And even the Mexicans and Central Americans who are coming in are not the demographic of yesteryear, i.e., young working-age males seeking jobs so they could send.money home to wife, kids and aging parents. Nope, now it’s all these KIDS being brought in by traffickers.

        Wanna know why the Left freaked out at the “Sound of Freedom” movie? It accurately portrayed a Honduran child being rescued when his trafficker was intercepted at the Mexico-U.S. border.

        I disagree with RFK Jr on some big things, and he’s a member of the Demoncrat party, BUT… I’m immensely grateful for his recent report on what the actual reality at the southern border is these days.
        rumble.com/v33unbw-rfk-jr.s-shocking-visit-to-the-u.s.-mexico-border.html

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

      Neither. They are both part of the North American Union. That, along with the European Union, African Union, etc make up the Global State.

  14. Paul August 21, 2023 at 10:14 am #

    ” . . . If you are among that segment of the population that has not lost its mind . . . . ” rings a bell in memory. It reminds me of an essay by C.G.Jung addressed to, ” . . . that segment of the German population who have not lost their [collective] mind . . . . ” I’ve been trying to pin down the exact reference for at least 10 years now, because it’s very timely. If anyone here knows the exact source, do let me know!

  15. Islander August 21, 2023 at 10:19 am #

    Excellent epigraph!

    Now, reading further . . .

  16. Itzybytz August 21, 2023 at 10:21 am #

    I was truly at a loss for words at my local farmer’s market. I made a comment to another vendor about our untrustworthy government. And somehow the conversation ran too Covid. The person I was talking to is a nurse. And she went off on Ivermectin and how amazed she was that people actually thought the horse wormer would actually help them. Her statement was, “Don’t they know it is just a horse wormer.” She had all the shots/boosters and would continue on with any forthcoming advised shots by the doctors or media because she had underlying health conditions and would do everything she could to prevent getting Covid.

    I didn’t argue, because I could see there was absolutely nothing I could say that would change her mind. And I don’t walk around with supporting documentation. But I did leave the conversation with, “I think I had covid and yes I was sick for awhile. Now I’ve built up natural antibodies and I’m also drinking natural concoctions of lemon, ginger, tumeric, and garlic every morning. I’m also taking elderberry syrup made by a neighbor. I raise marigolds and dry them and drink the tea, which is good for your digestion and helps eradicate cancer cells. My research never stops for natural remedies. And I have not and will not take any of those shots or boosters.” But my tone was very nice.

    So, anyway the strong minded people exist on both sides of the fence. I don’t know what it would take too change that ladies mind.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 21, 2023 at 10:27 am #

      I don’t know what it would take too change that ladies mind.

      Rachel Maddow,

      • Itzybytz August 21, 2023 at 11:18 am #

        That’s funny. And the Goddess Maddow would probably do the trick!

    • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:32 am #

      Probably nothing will change her mind.

    • mitchellc August 21, 2023 at 10:38 am #

      This is why you never, ever discuss politics and religion. Once you’re in the arena of pure faith, you leave logic behind and enter the dragon – literally the reptilian zone.

      • Disaffected August 21, 2023 at 10:54 am #

        *This!*

      • Itzybytz August 21, 2023 at 11:12 am #

        I’m soon to be 75 years old and have yet to learn that lesson about entering the forbidden zone. She did however comment that it’s time for the mindless old one to retire (Biden). That wasn’t her exact words but something similar. Sometimes I find by throwing something out there I find fellow believers. But unfortunately not this time. After her rant, I changed the subject to something weather related, sat for a bit and moved on.

    • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 11:44 am #

      Hey Q:

      And somehow the conversation ran too Covid is an interesting sentence. While I suspect that ran to Covid was intended, perhaps not. Both versions make grammatical sense.

    • Anthea August 22, 2023 at 2:51 am #

      @ itzybytz:

      People who work in the medical establishment are subjected to constant propaganda and peer pressure. One of my daughters is a respiratory therapist. I couldn’t convince her that Remdesivir and ventilators were deleterious, or that Ivermectin was a valuable treatment. All she heard, all day, every day, was that Ivermectin was “some kind of horse medicine.” She wound up taking two jabs, but had the sense to stop after that.

      She recently returned to work as a respiratory therapist, after quitting for about a year to work in home health care. I’m not sure where she stands on covid treatments or the vaccines at this point, but there is still that tendency to support “establishment” medicine–insisting that a newborn nephew be taken to a pediatrician for a well-baby check-up, rather than to our local general practitioner–who does not believe in vaccinations at all, of any kind, and will not vaccinate children in her practice. (She also prescribes Ivermectin, if needed, and our local pharmacy will fill the prescription.

      Fortunately, this particular daughter gets a lot of push-back from the rest of us, as the rest of the family is unjabbed, and her newborn nephew (and my grandson) will probably not be getting ANY of the standard childhood vaccinations.

      Anyway, that medical-establishment indoctrination is strong, and if you work in the field, you get full immersion in bullshit.

      • Anthea August 22, 2023 at 3:00 am #

        I should probably add, just as a point that might be interesting, that this daughter, along with the other four daughters, was not vaccinated as a child. Or, rather, she, as the oldest, got a couple of childhood vaccinations before I did the research and decided not to allow my kids to be vaccinated. The oldest daughter was also the first to be admitted to school unvaccinated, on a religious exemption. Also, whenever possible, I took the kids to an alternative medical practitioner when they needed to see a doctor. Our local guy was a naturopath who was also and MD.

        You would think my oldest would have a less orthodox view of medicine. But she was always the rebel.

  17. zappalives August 21, 2023 at 10:23 am #

    By all means………….the low IQ servile sheep …devoid of critical thinking skills ……in other words democrats should keep boosting the life-giving miracle vaxx !

    I want these sheep removed from the gene pool !

    Now…………if the democrat party wants to force the vaxx on the SANE portion of the REAL AMERICAN people…………….THE SHIT IS GOING TO HIT THE FAN !

    Mark my words !

  18. neurodoc August 21, 2023 at 10:23 am #

    The morons/libtards and the genetically defective will, yet again, become hysterical, get genocidal injections, wear masks, and socially distance. They WILL be fooled again and again. This is an IQ test folks. And the people who are stupid enough to take repeated modulated messenger RNA shots (not mRNA as they originally claimed) will die early. So sad. Too bad.

    • tuco22 August 21, 2023 at 10:32 am #

      But they will leave the gene pool cleansed of their stupidity.

    • SW August 21, 2023 at 10:49 am #

      The WHO is a business just like the IMF and it’s goal is to control and profit from this business. These are the people who need to be watched and if they get their way, the “treaty” will give them power over sovereign countries to call the shots. It’s unbelievable.

      “Who funds World Health organization the most?

      The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation alone is responsible for over 88 per cent of the total amount donated by philanthropic foundations to the WHO. Other contributors include the Bloomberg Family Foundation (3.5 per cent), the Wellcome Trust (1.1 per cent) and the Rockefeller Foundation (0.8 per cent).Feb 3, 2023”

      • malthuss August 21, 2023 at 11:12 am #

        WHO was an advisory corporation. repeat, was.

        • SW August 21, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

          They seem to be alive and well and very much still in business. Heard about the polypill they’re pushing? This is from their current web site:

          “The Essential Medicines List contains medicines that the WHO considers to be the minimum requirements for any health care system. It is updated every two years, and is internationally recognized, helping to prioritize effective and affordable medicines. As stated in the WHO report, “Essential medicines are those that satisfy the priority health care needs of a population. They are intended to be available in functioning health systems at all times, in appropriate dosage forms, of assured quality, and at prices individuals and health systems can afford.”

          And then we have this:

          Dr. Fuster adds, “Since our groundbreaking study was published, we have seen an increase in polypill usage across the world and we are looking forward to have this medicine available in the United States and the rest of the countries where it is not available yet. This cardiovascular polypill could become an integral part of global strategies to prevent cardiovascular events in patients who have suffered a heart attack and who are currently already being treated with separate mono-components.”

          Sure as hell sounds to me like they’re pushing pills. I wonder who owns the companies manufacturing these “essential medications”?

          All this pill does is take 3 different medications and put it in one pill. That’s it. One of the three medications in this amazing new pill is aspirin.

          • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

            There are still patent laws in this country, although the corporations are trying hard to destroy them.

            Ironically, corporate laws used to limit corporations in time and scope, just like patent laws. (And copyright laws, already watered down.)
            Look what happens when you allow corporations to break the laws.

            Anyway, Big Pharma pulls that shit all the time. As soon as one of their meds goes off-patent, they mess with the formula, or add another drug, and patent the “new” drug for another 17 years.

            It’s a scam.

        • Islander August 21, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

          The WHO started out as a branch of the UN (and even the birth of the UN has a back story worth examining). But, as has been discussed in one of Reiner Fuellmich’s sessions (a Romaninan UN rep), the UN was subverted some time ago.

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 5:05 pm #

            Carroll Quigley goes into this. They (the Network) started with the League of Nations, as their first attempt at the NWO, but the US wouldn’t join, so they started to rubbish it instead and it collapsed. The UN was their next attempt – this time it stuck.

            The story put out about the demise of the League of Nations was that it was a hugely sad loss of an attempt by the world’s people to end wars. Hahahahaha.

    • workingclasshero August 21, 2023 at 11:09 am #

      I don’t believe TPTB (democratic Washington bureaucracy) will pull another plandemic scare before the 2024 general election. There is to much to lose in the form of giving Republicans something to run against.

      • malthuss August 21, 2023 at 11:53 am #

        climate lockdown?

        food scarcity?

        oil price way up? or down?

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 21, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

          As I mentioned in recent weeks, I just can’t see people taking a “climate lockdown” seriously, unless the Yellowstone Caldera goes skyward.

          Without that, they will be pissing into the wind with their “the air quality is bad, so stay home and don’t go to work” BS.

          Well, for most people, anyway. Some might love it, as they still miss the complete lack of responsibility/productivity/paying of bills that they had permission to do during the last “emergency”.

          • malthuss August 21, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

            ‘they’ can try different things and see which gets the results they want.

            depopulation.

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 5:07 pm #

            The laptop class would probably welcome another chance to work in their pyjamas and have food delivered to them by miraculously resilient proles who are still working normally.

          • Anthea August 22, 2023 at 3:35 am #

            The only way I can see renewed covid lockdowns, etc., working is they find a way to scare the crap out of people–perhaps by releasing a seriously dangerous infectious agent–or some facsimile thereof. In other words, there would need to be some serious illness and highly visible dying going on.

            I can’t see any obvious way to create widespread panic about “climate change.”

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 7:32 am #

            Anthea, I think there are two options – one is to try to scare the pants off people; the other is to use brute force if they’re not scared enough. One way or another, brute force will be used eventually, in my view.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 22, 2023 at 10:37 am #

            Alba, I maintain that brute force on a noticeable scale is the last option “they” want to use, at least right now. Well, “they” surely would find it amusing, to be honest, but I think they want this one to look right in the history books, as if it was our choice to be conquered.

            Our society does not currently approve of lionizing strongmen and conquerors as we once did for essentially all of recorded history. We’re currently pretending that we’ve all historically tried to be nice to one other, and we’ve become better and smarter than our barbaric ancestors. All this pretending…with two absolute meat-grinder world wars only 80-100 years ago.

            That said, you are of course correct that “they” eventually will go to force when the pretending stops working. But it seems the padded Gateses, Cheneys, and (insert your local power-hungry douchebag of choice here) of the world really want to be remembered as benevolent heroes when they officially take over…and they just might get away with it, too.

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 11:37 am #

            Well, that would be comforting, Mr M. I’m a bit old for the brute force option myself! I expect you’re right, although Maui was rather brute force-y and what went on in Australian and in parts of Europe during the height of the ‘pandemic’ certainly was.

            I think militarised police – and actual militaries – are quite likely to be deployed in the event of mass demonstrations against further lockdowns/vaxx mandates etc., especially once the Pandemic Treaty is signed and they’ve kicked off on Gates’ promised ‘big one’ that will ‘get our attention’.

            I expect it will give countries the right to borrow UN troops to put down dissent. Probably not this year. 2025 is likely to be a key year in more ways than one. The former UN person that Reiner Fuellmich interviewed said that there are to be widespread (contrived) food shortages in 2025 (war? pandemic?). People who did what they appear to have done in Maui – and to children – will do literally anything.

            Obviously, the less overtly brutal way to get compliance is to close down people’s bank accounts, as is already happening to some high-profile individuals over here (following the biggie in Canada, of course) and then cut off their access to CBDCs, when those come into use.

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 11:39 am #

            From what I’ve heard some people say, we may already have a lot of covert UN-trained troops staying in hotels as ‘migrants’ all over the country.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 22, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

            You may be right Alba. I just haven’t had to live through hell on the streets before (well, minus 9/11, which was 1200 miles from me, and the Saint Floyd riots a few years back here in Minnesota, but that was only a few days of watching out the windows at night, and I’m a good 30 minutes from where that went down).

            Been a good run so far in my lifetime, overall. Pretty much every generation prior had to go to war for this reason or that. I’ve been lucky.

            But we all know it’s coming. History says so.

          • MaryQueen August 22, 2023 at 6:44 pm #

            @Anthea, I think they are going to use the illnesses and deaths this season caused by the jab to claim there is another pandemic.

      • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

        All the main Republican candidates believe in covid and the the vaccine.

        Just like last time. So why not do exactly what worked last time as Mr Kunstler said?

        • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

          Jarek

          You are surprised, most of the GOP are Deep State supporters first.

  19. docmartin August 21, 2023 at 10:33 am #

    Masked casualties they are. Traumatized forever, obedient lemmings.

    • wokethis August 21, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

      Now wait a minute Doc, since Starbucks took those circles off the floor, nobody knows where to stand…

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

      It’s not enough! I want traffic lights in grocery stores this time…..

      • Paddys Lament August 21, 2023 at 3:58 pm #

        …and double thickness plexiglass!

        • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

          Fauci, while double masked, hinted that three would be even better and spoke of goggles…..

          • Heartlander August 21, 2023 at 11:52 pm #

            Well, the virus does enter the body through the eyes, as well as the nose and mouth — which is one more reason that the masks are absurd.

            Also, the virus exits the body through the anus as well as through the mouth and nose — another reason masks are absurd. Your body is farting all day long without you even knowing it, and this virus spreads through the air in aerosol form.

            Masks are idiotic. Proper ventilation of indoor spaces is the only thing that makes any difference in spread. Also, ultraviolet light kills viruses — even though the screaming harpies attacked Trump for mentioning it early on.

  20. Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2023 at 10:38 am #

    The “authorities” will play hot potato with ivermectin, as they are doing with every aspect of the lockdown atrocities.

    “We never said…”. Yes they did say, but the beauty of their plan is that nobody challenged their authority to give orders. They deputized everybody right down to the lowest level, told them they had the right and the power and the duty to order around their fellow citizens; to suspend human rights ever. Why? There was an emergency, and the gubmint told them they could, and as long as there is an emergency, the government and everyone in it and everyone they decide has the power, is your overlord.

    Virtually no one is running against taking away these powers, because they were all in on abusing the power they conferred upon themselves.

    Including President Trump. Watch the cultists desperately come up with reasons nothing President Trump did was his own doing or his own fault.

    It wasn’t him, he “left it to the governors”! What does “left it to the governors” even MEAN?

    He has said over and over that the decision to lock down and open up was his, and his alone, but he let the governors decide how to implement it. That is not the same as he didn’t have the power but the governors did, due to the 10th Amendment.

    Guess what? NOBODY had those powers.

    Exactly ONE governor questioned the nuttery coming from the Trump task force. One.

    No, Nancy Pelosi wouldn’t have “had him removed for not listening to the experts”.

    I have actually heard that excuse put forward, that he had to continue to allow Fauci and Birx to spread harmful lies, because Nancy Pelosi.

    That is pure confabulation.

    Neither Fauci nor Birx is an epidemiologist, for one. Not an expert.

    Also, until Dr. Scott Atlas’ arrival, no one on the task force had any background in public health policy.

    Dr. Atlas’ arrival and departure should have clued people in that yes, that task force was not engraved in stone and brought down from the mount by Moses, it was elastic, and every member could come or go. Even Doctor Fauci.

    This is all water under the bridge, though.

    They got away with it, and they are going to do it again, and no one is going to try to stop them.

    RFK Jr. has quit talking vengeance and he started talking about hugging it out instead, but he has gotten even worse in the last few days.

    He’s got religion or something.

    • Organist1022 August 21, 2023 at 10:54 am #

      The moment the Ferguson/Imperial College model was found to be fraudulent, and subsequently adjusted – the model Birx was using to justify the lockdown – THAT was the chink in the armor. Trump should have seized that moment and moved the chess pieces. But he didn’t. He let them assign him to “ventilator acquisition”.

      • SW August 21, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

        That idiot Nigel Ferguson has never, not once, been right about anything. He finally got fired, not for rank incompetence, but for going to see his married GF during lockdown.

        What was so crazy about the “ventilator acquisition” nonsense was ventilators in hospitals have nothing to do with the government. The people who control inventory and respiratory therapy had set the number they kept on hand long before covid. Yet it was blamed on Trump b/c there weren’t enough and I never heard anyone challenge this.

        • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 4:53 pm #

          It was completely nuts, SW. Why, indeed, would it be up to the US president to make sure that hospitals had enough ventilators?

          “With enough ventilators” was their mantra. I did challenge it on my Facebook page, pointing out that ventilated patients needed trained doctors, nurses, and RTs, as well as sedation drugs, monitors, oxygen and electrical hook-ups and suction available, none of which are lining hospital walls, contrary to the photos they showed in Italy. That caused quite an uproar with my liberal friends, but others were glad for the info.

          Why do people believe that shit? There are still people who think that the photos of people walking along the street and suddenly dying actually came from Wuhan.
          That is not how you die from a respiratory virus. Shouldn’t everyone know that? (Except for the doofuses who think there is no such thing as viruses.) It was clear that the videos were fake, and I had no doubt they were filmed in Langley, not Wuhan.

          It is how you can die from the GMO injectable, however.

          • SW August 21, 2023 at 9:28 pm #

            I think it’s b/c, with years of indoctrination behind us, that we have been lead to believe that the government not only can but also has the ability and the responsibility to solve every problem or shortage no matter what. I tried to explain to friends that the government is not in charge of hand sanitizer shipments to CVS and Trump was not in charge of respirators. There are plenty of problems the government has caused and should fix but hospital equipment isn’t one of them.

            A woman on a SW flight from Las Vegas died suddenly of respiratory failure on her way home to Dallas. She was completely fine when she got on the plane and this was in the news as a death from covid. It was mentioned in passing that she had a history of asthma. People have died from an acute asthma attack which obviously happened but only people with medical training (or asthma) would know that.

            Facts were distorted to keep us in line and not too surprisingly, the people keeping us in line want us to stay put.

          • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

            I have seen people die from asthma. They are not perfectly fine before they die, they are wheezing and retracting and panicking from the lack of oxygen. They are cyanotic. They are visibly struggling to breathe.

            The woman probably died from the shot, imo. People can die suddenly from sudden cardiac arrest, even though they are fine before they go.

            Their last words are usually: “I don’t feel so good.”

        • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 5:16 pm #

          Neil Ferguson’s predictions (from Ed Dowd’s book):

          Predictions on the left; reality on the right.

          2001 Foot & mouth (UK): 150,000; Reality: 200

          2002 Mad Cow (UK): 156,000; Reality: 177

          2005 Bird flu: 2 million worldwide; Reality 282 (over 6 yrs)

          2009 Swine flu (UK): 65,000; Reality: 45

          2020 Covid (Taiwan): 179,000; Reality: 10

          Note that the ‘analyses’ claiming millions have been saved by the covid ‘vaccines’ are based on the same models.

          • SW August 21, 2023 at 9:30 pm #

            Great list ! Doesn’t that say it all about the amount of trust we should put in some of these so-called experts?

          • GreenAlba August 21, 2023 at 9:55 pm #

            I think, in the case of Ferguson, it’s not just incompetence. He was one of the perpetrators, paid to produce scary mathematical models. On a par with Christian Drosten, I’d say.

          • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

            It says something about our ruling overlords, for sure, that this guy was picked to make all these predictions.

            Anyone that incompetent should have been sacked after the first failure.

            The fact that he was allowed, or chosen, to continue his “failed” predictions proves to my satisfaction that he did not fail to carry out our owners’ wishes.

    • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 11:34 am #

      Watch the cultists desperately come up with reasons nothing President Trump did was his own doing or his own fault.

      I like that. That’s about as close to a strawman without truly being a strawman that I have seen in a while.

      You see, in the World According to BoO, we are cultists and we are desperate and we will make up bull shit to fit BoO’s perceived agenda so, whatever we say, don’t believe it.

      ***
      Do you think that it is possible that DJT had bigger fish to fry? Do you think that it is possible that his entire Presidency was a 4-year sting operation?

      Americans are so trained by Hollywood and the 24-hour news cycle that many can rarely fathom an operation that is executed over decades.

      • Itzybytz August 21, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

        Dr Zonk, I’m with you on the “DJT had bigger fish to fry? and a 4-year sting operation.” Sometimes it is easier to get things done if peeps are focused on something else.

        • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

          Yes. Start tracking and let the criminals continue committing their crimes while being none-the-wiser. A giant sting operation intended to save mankind and the union – not every dough-head in 2021.

          His is a counter-movement spawned after centuries of the elite engineering their fulfillment of Revelation.

          ***
          Of course, if you agree with me then you are a “cultist,” so there’s that.

          • Itzybytz August 21, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

            I’m hopeful that the giant sting has worked and looking forward to watching the outcome. So far, I’m hearing it’s going to be a slow, more palatable revelation. But who knows.

      • Islander August 21, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

        Evidence that does not support this theory is Trump’s bending over for the Zionists.

        Or, do you think the Zionists are on OUR side?

        • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 9:42 pm #

          I do not think that Zionists are on our side but remain unclear on exactly what DJT bent over as he conducted a, now, 7-year sting operation.

          The fruits of his labour are almost ready. It is harvest time!

          • Heartlander August 22, 2023 at 12:01 am #

            I tend to think the sting operation idea is all wishful fantasy. But if it’s true, I wonder if Mr. Putin is also in on the sting. I sure would love to think so. I trust him a lot more than I do most American leaders!

          • Islander August 22, 2023 at 8:29 pm #

            “but remain unclear on exactly what DJT bent over ”
            ????

            Moved capital from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, for starters.

            A biggie.

            But not the only Zionist-friendly action. Surely you know about Jared Kushner and his influence over Trump.

      • Anthea August 23, 2023 at 6:24 pm #

        @ Jarek:

        Who do you think selects our “elected” representatives and places them in positions of State power? Who do you think selects the State’s bureaucrats, policy-makers, and enforcers? Who do you think makes the decisions as to public policy?

        Which, I suppose, would seem to prove your point–that the (nominally) private sector dominates the State. The point I would make is that there is not–and never has been–a lot of difference. The State and the private sector (at its highest levels) are pretty much the same thing. The State’s apparatus is made up of people selected by the ultra-wealthy private sector. The highest levels of the state apparatus is heavily made up of actual family members of the ultra-wealthy from the private sector. They ensure that the State continues to provide their enterprises with very considerable advantages: monopolies, subsidies, tax-free status, tax loopholes, and regulatory advantages of all kinds.

        It’s always appeared to me that when an ultra-wealthy family chances to have a kid who is too lazy or dim-witted to be of value in the family’s business enterprises, they install him/her in a political office–where the family micro-manages large-scale stealing operations.

        Anyway, the idea that the State even CAN be separate from private enterprises/interests is fatuous on the face of it.

        Look at the history of the State: The State originates in conquest and confiscation. Take the Norman Conquest, for example. The first thing the Normans did was give each of their favorites title to large areas of land, whereupon the inhabitants were required to pay rent for the right to continue to live on someone elses property. So–is/was this rental arrangement an example of State power, or would you call it private enterprise? Being a landlord is an example of private enterprise, right?

        Basically, that’s what the State IS: It’s the system set up by people with the money-power, achieved through ownership of nominally private-sector enterprises, which the State exists primarily to enrich, or further enrich. That’s what the State is FOR. It’s a TOOL of the monied class, a bit of machinery. Nothing more. It has no independent existence. To talk about setting up a system where the State dominates the private sector, is like talking about settig up a system there the bobcat controls and dominates the guy who’s driving it, or the skillsaw tells the capenter how to build stuff.

        • Jarek August 24, 2023 at 1:12 pm #

          So why your endless attacks in favor of these “private” vermin running everything? And the little guys (and girls) are no better since most of them just want to be big guys. Thus they identify with them and support them to their own detriment.

          There is a better class of men. If you are a Christian you must admit this. Actually there are two broadly better classes of men: the Warriors and the Brahmins. See the Vedic system. In Russia, the Warrior caste has gained ascendency over the merchants. Glory Be! The Oligarchs who wouldn’t get with the nationalist program were driven out of Russia by Putin.

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

      He got funding or the promise of it or something.

      Anyone still think the State is dominant over the private sector – when the would representatives of the former have to crawl to the latter and then dance to their tune after being elected?

      This isn’t Fascism it’s Plutocracy. Get it straight.

  21. Lepard August 21, 2023 at 10:41 am #

    I went to my overweight gp this morning for some bloodwork. Two East Indian or Pakistani men, sorry for not knowing the difference as I cannot tell what a German looks like compared to a Dutchman, walked out with masks on. I wanted to run after them and give it to them but these people are exhausting. I am back to work in two weeks as an elementary public school teacher in Ontario, Canada. 49 out of 50 staff have been at least double jabbed and I am the only one not. Oh ya, what critical thinkers we have teaching kids!

  22. mitchellc August 21, 2023 at 10:50 am #

    “Virtually no one is running against taking away these powers, because they were all in on abusing the power they conferred upon themselves.”

    Exactly – this is an absolute aspect of human nature. Bastiat wrote about it extensively 180 years ago. Here is but one quote of dozens:

    “As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose–that it may violate property instead of protecting it–then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder.”
    ? Frederic Bastiat, The Law

    Which gets back to my consistent theme that if one understands this fundamental order of life, why continue to obsess over the details?

    Everything ocurring today has happened in the past; our generation is neither special nor unique. Civilizations, empires, countries – all have a lifecycles no different than indivduals.

    Complaining about current events is like railing against age and death. But, the one key difference is that one can phsically mover to another, let’s say “host country” – as if assuming the lfe of a younger person.

    And that’s why while the transhuman ideal appeals to those with means, a similar avenue is available to regular people in that while one region may be in decline, surey another is on the rise.

    And that’s exactly what we see today, with video/images coming from Moscow that looks like the US in the 1950s.

    • Organist1022 August 21, 2023 at 10:59 am #

      I’ve seen those videos as well. Smiling young people, out at night in the city, having a great time.

      No one shrieking profanity, brawling, twerking or shooting each other. Amazing.

    • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 11:19 am #

      You reminded me of my favourite Bastait quote:

      When plunder becomes a way of life, men create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

    • Anthea August 22, 2023 at 11:34 am #

      @ mitchellc:

      What you say about the cyclical birth, senescence, and death of civilizations is historically true. It’s happened hundreds of times before.

      It is reasonable and natural–and possibly even a moral obligation–to speak about it, to speak out in condemnation of the evils of this particular age, and to try to inform and correct those around us. One reason for this is because we’re going to need a “remnant.” Another is that, per the Bible, we have an obligation to “admonish the sinner.” We’re living in evil times because of the advance of evil. Allowing evil to advance unopposed is a bad idea–obviously–and even makes one an accessory to evil.

      I don’t really see how the inevitability of evil means that we should not speak of it. These discussions lead to “situational awareness,” so that we can better consider what kinds of actions to take.

      Father Ripperger’s comment on this is interesting. At Fatima, Our Lady requested the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart, whereupon “Russia [would] be converted, and there [would] be a period of peace.” Since this was not done as requested, the evils of not doing so have befallen us: “Russia will spread her errors throughout the world….The good will be martyred, and various nations will be annihilated.” But, “In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.” Anyway, Father Ripperger’s comment on all this was that all of the terrible events that we are now going through could have been avoided by means of only one five-minute prayer by one man–which, he adds, tells us something about the efficacy of prayer.

      That’s a bit of a digression, but these times require that we do a lot of thinking, a lot of talking, and a lot of praying.

  23. lizharmon August 21, 2023 at 10:55 am #

    The public health authorities destroyed healthcare in the west. Perhaps it’s no great loss, since like 5% of the population is healthy under the present framework. I live in a small town. We have a hospital run by one of the big corporate healthcare chains that pretends to be faith-based. The local commandant, a woman, went all masky/vaxxxy and now she can’t get staffed up because she still insists that you have had your shots like the cattle you are before you come to work for her. Not surprisingly, anyone who can think is a hard pass. These idiots are reaping what they have sown. Soon they will be gone. Ashes to ashes. Dust to dust.

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

      Still faith based – just of a new religion, the religion of “man”.

      As Poe says:

      The play is the comedy “man”.
      The hero is the conqueror worm.

  24. Cankerpuss August 21, 2023 at 11:28 am #

    Mr. Kunstler has displayed great wisdom in today’s post.

    “Authority, you see, is granted only to those who are trustworthy.” Absolutely correct. The Governments gains its authority from those it governs. Period. Authority only comes when the people who are governed trust that authority and act according to the commands of that authority. When the people who are governed lose trust in that authority the authority is lost as the people no longer are obedient. Right now, 50% of Americans don’t believe or trust their Government. The actual number is probably a lot higher than that. If I were a guessing man I’d say 80% of Americans don’t trust or believe their Government. When a Government loses the trust of its people it has lost its authority. When a Government loses its authority it then resorts to coercion and force to get obedience and when that happens the reign of that Government is at an end. We are nearly there.

    “And the remedy is obvious and simple, too: paper ballots hand-counted in small precincts of manageable size, all done on one day, which we call Election Day” Again, spot on, Mr. Kunstler. The solution to our election woes is very simple and requires only 4th world technology. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more we try to fancy up our elections with machines, computers, mail in ballots, special accommodations, etc, the messier and more convoluted it becomes. Here’s my proposal to solve our elections mess.

    1. Small precincts based upon school boundaries.
    2. Voter must present valid ID.
    3. Dips a finger in ink before paper ballot is presented to them. Once finger inked, no second voting.
    4. Uses a pen and places a checkmark or an X next to their candidate of choice.
    5. Ballot is put into a locked box with a slotted lid.
    6. Ballot box is brought back to a room every hour where old, chubby, white haired Democrat ladies tally the votes.
    7. Ballot box is brought to another room where old, chubby, white haired Republican ladies tally the votes.
    8. Vote tallies are then sent to the County where the precinct results are tabulated and finalized.

    The solution is so simple but the brainiacs in leadership positions will have nothing of it. Too much money now involved in the election process. I mean, good god, it takes us two years to elect a fucking President. Makes me nauseous.

    Mr. Kunstler did get one thing wrong, though. “Go ahead, we should say, I dare you. We won’t be fooled again. Wrong. Millions of Americans will be fooled again. And again. And again.

    • JohnAZ August 21, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

      The Left has spent seventy years building up control of the politics of America. The currently control everything, except occasionally the SCOTUS. They are actively trying to control it.

      How can you change anything that is under total control of “the enemy”? Currently, even the vote is under control.

      Millions of Americans feel the job of government is to take care of them. It is not tomfoolery, it is planned by dominating elites. Currently, the government is indoctrinating our children to just follow along.

    • DaveO907 August 21, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

      httpx://twitter.com/BehizyTweets/status/1693037062440583487

    • oldandtired August 21, 2023 at 5:08 pm #

      I seem to remember our host told us this past Friday to buy all the beans and bullets we could. And to take all of our money out of banks?

      In my opinion this was profound advice on his part.

      While timing the collapse is tricky, at some point every body can get the collapse timed correctly. It happened yesterday.

      • Heartlander August 22, 2023 at 12:05 am #

        ??

        • oldandtired August 22, 2023 at 3:44 pm #

          Heartlander,
          Was I too obtuse or too off topic?

  25. Opie August 21, 2023 at 11:39 am #

    Anyone following the amazing rise of Oliver Anthony’s song “Rich Men North of Richmond” ?
    His song has struck like a match in dry tinder. Much like Jason Aldean’s song Try That In A Small Town. Things are warming up quick.

    • Frankenstein Government August 21, 2023 at 11:45 am #

      Love that tune. It resonates bcuz we all feel like that.

    • Billy Hill August 21, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

      Even more amazing is that Anthony is reputed to have refused the offers of big money from the wizards of “the starmaker machinery behind the popular song.” Babylon Bee summed it up:
      Country Music Industry Confused By Man Actually From Country Making Actual Music.

      But don’t get your hopes up. Google Today’s Best Rap Songs. You’ll get a snippet of the top 30 or so.

      Nothing more need be said.

      • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

        This link takes you to a search of ‘Music Industry’ over at the ‘chute. Many of you will find a video or two of interest.

        bitchuteDOTcom/search/?query=music%20industry&kind=video

        ***
        Mr Anthony read from Psalm 37 before performing the smash hit live in NC over a week ago. Mr Anthony understands that you must sell your soul to be a star in the music industry. Mr Anthony refuses to get sucked into that soul-vacuum. God bless Mr Anthony.

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

      He just turned down an 8 million dollar contract. Good on him.

      • Q. Shtik August 21, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

        WHO just turned down an 8 million dollar contract? On what? Why do you say “good on him?” Was he holding out for more? Or is he one of these fools who thinks money is crass?

        Be more specific about the point you are trying to make.

        • Billy Hill August 21, 2023 at 3:52 pm #

          Oliver Anthony. Per the thread above. So it is reported.

          “One of these fools who thinks money is crass?”

          Yes to the money part. No to the fools part. He is rather articulate. Says he didn’t want to play arenas, have three semi trucks full of gear and staging, two jets, and all the regalia that comes courtesy of the Starmaker Machinery. Does that make him a fool?

          When you sign on with The Man, the Man owns you. He did not wish to be owned by Them. Does that make him a fool?

          • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

            When you sign on with The Man, the Man owns you.

            Yes. And, in the music industry, The Man is Satan.

            ***
            “For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?’
            – Matthew 16:26

            Oliver Anthony is no fool.

          • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

            IIRC, Anthony said he turned down the contract in a post on Twitter.

          • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 5:23 pm #

            Yes, Satan is referred to as the “Strong Man” once or twice in the gospel.

  26. Frankenstein Government August 21, 2023 at 11:44 am #

    I never was fooled. I haven’t trusted the government since JFK.

    After spending 21 days in the hospital, 9 days on the vent, and dodging a few doses of Remdesivir- I wondered if I should have tried the vaxx.

    Nebulous argument. We all have choices to make. Choose wisely.

    • Cankerpuss August 21, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

      Neither was I. I can proudly state that I have never been vaccinated for Covid. I can also proudly state that I have never taken a Covid test. Not one. Not ever. If I get sick I knuckle down and get better. I don’t run off and stick a 6″ cotton swab up my nose so see if I “got it.”

      There was no Covid. It as a nasty Flu variant that they used and abused for political means. I will never believe anything that comes out of Federal or State agencies.

      • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

        I don’t run off and stick a 6? cotton swab up my nose so see if I “got it.”

        I had a couple of really good chuckles reading that. Thank you.

  27. FGB3 August 21, 2023 at 11:49 am #

    A few comments focused on the general populace’s ability to think and process info about this whole psy-op. Well, when I go to my local supermarket, and just take a look at the folks there …

    I mean I don’t live in a super affluent place, but it isn’t South Central L.A. either. Just pretty much normal folks in the former middle class now moving to lower class. Lots of over-weight people. Lots of folks wearing some of the worst clothes to be seen in public. Parking lot is full of pretty darned new cars that can’t be paid for – so folks in debt to buy the latest shiny SUV.

    I just look at them and think, “Well, if we are reliant upon these kinds of people to see what’s really going on, we’re in trouble. I mean, this group commenting here on Jim’s ClusterFuck Nation are ‘self-selected’. We are not your average American.

    I would have to lament that the vast majority of Americans will easily be fooled again.

    • malthuss August 21, 2023 at 11:56 am #

      most everyone with a car has a nice one.

      cash for clunkers took the old ones off the road.

      some think a tesla will save the planet. no new cars take a lot of resources to create, unlike old ones.

      • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

        I was in my parent’s underground parking on Saturday morning. A neighbour of theirs has his mint 1952 baby blue Pontiac a few stalls away. What a beauty! Enough chrome on the front to … whatever a ton of chrome can do.

        “They don’t make ’em like that anymore.”

        • Cankerpuss August 21, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

          Ah, you touched a nerve. I agree with you. Cars of years past used to be an art form. The curves, the chrome, the stunning grills, the large tail light fins, the subtle curves, the hood ornaments, strategically paced decorative vents, the vibrant colors. Beautiful.

          Today? Cars all look the same. I cant tell a Honda SUV apart from a Ford. I can’t tell a Dodge Ram from a Chevy Silverado. The Charger is a sedan. Most cars are either white or silver. Gone is the artistic beauty that made cars so wonderful to look at. Explains why car shows are so popular today. It’s a chance to look at art.

          • malthuss August 21, 2023 at 5:38 pm #

            Why are new cars of the last few decades ugly?

          • Cankerpuss August 21, 2023 at 6:24 pm #

            You know how Disney keeps re-making the same movie over and over again? I think the same issue applies to automakers. They have lost all creativity. There is only so much one can do with a car. They won’t revert back to making art forms in the vehicles so they just morph together and the designs all look alike.

            For years the Dodge Ram had a very unique look and was easy to identify. Now even the Ram looks about the same as the Ford, Chevy, Nissan and Toyota. Sad.

          • Billy Hill August 21, 2023 at 7:03 pm #

            One cannot tell a Honda Accord from a Mercedes. I suspect that unibody construction and the demands from government for fuel efficiency/wind tunnel testing have resulted in a basic shape for contemporary everyday cars. Yes there were sensuous curves in the 40s and early 50s for aerodynamic efficiency, and those years show similarities among the models. By the late 50s and into the 60s the designers were given free rein and the results speak for themselves. Fins, jet-age symbolism, Extravagance unbound.

            It was fun while it lasted.

      • BackRowHeckler August 21, 2023 at 3:51 pm #

        Are you riding out the Hurricane? On the West Coast, do they call these tropical storms ‘Hurricanes’? Or something else? Like a typhoon? I’m assuming you haven’t lost power because here you are, posting on this comments section.

        What about the 75,000 vagrants living on the streets of LA? A hurricane, with it’s high winds & flooding, is the last thing they need. In the first place, those blue tarps weren’t built for high winds. How do you “batten down the hatches” if you’re living under a tarp on skid row on the mean streets of Los Angeles?

        • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

          Those tarps blowing in the wind, like the witch in The Wizard of Oz, will make some great tiktok videos.

        • malthuss August 22, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

          The hurricane with no strong wind. 5? inches of rain.
          I feel for the homeless during the rain.

    • Cankerpuss August 21, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

      FGB3, great post! I feel the same way. I am always amazed at the freak show when I go to the store. Fat women dressed in way to revealing clothing. Tattoos everywhere (strangely enough I tend to see more women with tattoos than men). Nose rings. Lip piercings. Purple, blue and green hair. People dressed in their pajamas.

      Humans, it seems, have lost any semblance of self pride. Disgusting.

      Then in the parking lot as I step into my nice 2007 Toyota Tacoma I watched these tattooed, pierced, false hair colored fatties climb into a 2022 Dodge Ram or a 2023 Chevy Tahoe and drive away and I wonder to myself “what the hell am I missing here.”

      At least I live debt free. No mortgage. No car payments. No student loans. No credit cards. I am free in that regard. Most people are living lies. The act like they own everything and they are wealthy when in reality they are in debt up to their eyeballs and are one major disaster away from financial ruin.

      I still have to send the county my annual rent check for the right to live on the land that I have paid for free and clear.

      • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

        It’s vonderful. The circus in always in town nowadays.

      • BackRowHeckler August 21, 2023 at 4:00 pm #

        Regarding that 2022 Dodge Ram ~

        O down, loan at 9%, $1150 per month for 96 months

        Made payments at great sacrifice for the first 5 months, but haven’t been able to swing it since April. Right now the repo man is hot on your trail, expect him any day. Meanwhile, trying to stay on the move, and don’t park that Ram in the same place two nights in a row.

      • Islander August 21, 2023 at 5:50 pm #

        Today’s cars really do look the same! I can’t tell them apart, so if I am to meet someone at her car, I have no idea what car to look for and often walk to the wrong car. One time I even got into a wong car. When the real owners showed up it was kind of embarrassing.

        My kitchen window has a view of the street below, with angled parking. by luck of I don’t know what, on certain days I will see five white SUVs parked next to each other. The next day it will be all black SUVs. All looking about the same.
        My theory is that people like to pull in next to a car of the same color. Kind of a parking aesthetic.

        Or, is that just me???
        I like to park my 1996 Legacy Outback next to the bright shiny new white SUVs!

        • Cankerpuss August 21, 2023 at 6:22 pm #

          My midnight blue 2007 Tacoma looks pretty good next to that big fat Tahoe.

    • Q. Shtik August 21, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

      this group commenting here on Jim’s ClusterFuck Nation are ‘self-selected’. We are not your average American. – FGB3

      ===============

      I also like to think that we CFN commenters are smarter than typical Americans but when I see 2 spelling errors (of the non-typo kind) within the first four words of the first sentence of a comment I begin to wonder how smart we really are.

      Or, are those errors simply because we don’t give a shit?

      • Night Owl August 21, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

        Comma after “Americans.”

        Be consistent in your use of numbers (e.g., “2” and “four”).

        Coma after “comment.”

        Your last sentence is poorly written; writting like you speak is the pasttime of millenial bloggers.

        I count four issues with your post.

        By your own definition, we must question your intelligence.

        Your pal,

        Night Owl

      • Islander August 21, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

        Q: You do not have a clue about punctuation.

        That means you are weak on syntax, since punctuation clarifies syntax.

      • messianicdruid August 22, 2023 at 10:11 am #

        Q asked, “Or, are those errors simply because we don’t give a shit?”

        We are using different rulers [ devices/equipment/algos ] to measure IQ [ smart ].

  28. Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

    I just searched this webpage for ‘Lahaina’. Zilch. JHK’s Aug. 21 article and 127 CFN comments and not a single mention of the American town that had its non-elite’s children and houses and cars locked-down and incinerated way back on the 8th.

    I understand that two brilliant essays per week in August is a very tall order but why ignore the biggest story of American civilian loss of life since 9/11 to rehash “government has entrenched corrupt warriors and leaches within its ranks”?

    I hope that Jim is now researching DEWs and will have plenty to say about them and Lahaina and Paradise Valley, CA in his next brilliant essay at the end of this week.

    • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

      It was Paradise, Ca., not Paradise Valley.

      My parents lived there for a couple of years, but my mom insisted they move out.
      She said “This place is a fire trap.”

      Lots of tinder, only one road out.

      She was a smart woman.

      Although my brother-in-law looked at Google Earth and their house did survive the fire.

      • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

        I have heard people refer to both and naturally assumed that the town Paradise is in Paradise Valley. No?

        It sounds to me like the zappers liked your Mom’s house.

        • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

          I think that Paradise Valley is in Arizona.

          • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 1:33 pm #

            You are correct. My assumption was wrong and my source was incorrect. Thank you.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

      I could have sworn I went off on Bobby Jr. for bringing climate into the Lahaina story.

      Maybe not.

      I have right cheer an article that I was going to bring out after my rant about emergency powers, but I’m also trying to get my yard waste out to the curb before it rains, so I didn’t get to post it yet.

      Here is an example of an emergency that the government has a hand in causing, that they will now solve by declaring an emergency to dispense with their own regulations.

      Isn’t the timing interesting?

      “Hawaii could see construction of 50,000 new homes over the next three to five years for residents of all income levels if an executive order issued Monday by Gov. Josh Green achieves its intended purpose. The order suspends a half dozen state and county laws, primarily focusing on land use, historic preservation and environmental review.

      Titled “Emergency Proclamation Relating to Housing,” the measure invokes a state law giving the governor broad power to suspend laws that impede a response to emergencies such as natural disasters or the coronavirus pandemic.

      In this case, the emergency is a shortage of housing and the response is to lower regulatory barriers to building homes.”

      https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/07/hawaii-gov-takes-dramatic-action-to-solve-housing-crisis-but-is-he-going-too-far/

      The governor is also forbidding any private parties from offering to buy anyone’s burned-out property.

      This could be benign, couldn’t it?

      • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

        Similarly the government cracks down hard on any private currencies – despite the fact that our Federal Reserve is owned by a consortium of private banks.

      • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

        I don’t know, BoO. I had not read all comments, I merely searched for ‘Lahaina.’

        Regardless, Governor Green is all about turning Lahaina into a 15-minute SMART city. And, now that 1,000+ pesky land-owners have been locked-down and incinerated, his plans are full-steam ahead.

      • SW August 21, 2023 at 4:12 pm #

        BofO — I saw a clip of the governor’s statement about anyone approaching fire victims to buy their property and it was nuanced — “they were to be left alone at present” or words close to that.

        I’d like them to account for all the missing people b/c apparently they’re not in the shelters. I find the news about the fire itself and what’s been happening there to be confusing and vague.

        • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

          Maybe these 3 minutes will clarify things for you.

          “I’m serious as a heart attack.”

          bitchuteDOTcom/video/6Juo1yFSX21s/

        • MaryQueen August 22, 2023 at 7:31 pm #

          They’ll wait a few weeks ’til the next disaster is in the news, then they will forget about protecting the victims, and Blackrock/Vanguard will move in to take the land and build their stack ‘n’ packs.

          • tuco22 August 23, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

            How many of our elected representatives do you think will build vacation homes there?

          • MaryQueen August 24, 2023 at 8:38 pm #

            All of them.

    • Islander August 21, 2023 at 6:01 pm #

      Zonk:

      IMHO it is bad form to instruct our host what to write about, or reproach him for not writing about the subject you would like him to.

      That suggests to me that you have very clear ideas as to WHAT he should write—what conclusions he should have come to about Lahaina.

      Actually, though, JHK did write about the suspicious Lahaina event.

      No one understands what happened in terms of natural or unnatural causes. We are getting skeletal “official” explanations, while events on the ground are veiled in rumor and colored by fear.

      Isn’t this JHK’s topic for today—the cratering of the government’s credibility and trustworthiness?

      (The sources you have indicated do not look particularly reliable to me.)

      • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 9:00 pm #

        Thank you for your critique of my feedback of JHK’s essay this morning, Isles. It is greatly appreciated.

        I do remain confused as to how an entire American town and its population can be locked-down and incinerated one day yet we read yet another essay about “government is corrupt.” I was merely expressing my confusion and disappointment that the biggest loss of civilian American life in over two decades is not getting the attention that it obviously deserves throughout media everywhere. Lahaina is the smoking gun of government corruption right now. Lahaina should be way more news than it is, imho.

        Please note that I (carefully) said that “I hope” that JHK researches DEWs (which were obviously used at Lahaina on 8/8). As you probably know, JHK’s research and contacts are top-notch. His research of DEWs would undoubtedly bring forth much light. “I hope” is not a command, it is a reader-request and asking someone skilled and brilliant and full of integrity to research a topic is hardly indicating what his research should conclude (like that would ever work!).

        ***
        David Nino Rodriguez and Michael Jaco may not seem reliable to you because you have not listened to them be repeatedly correct over these past many months as have I.

        Please point me to more reliable sources discussing DEWs at Lahaina, however, as I like to consider all angles, opinions and analysis in my research.

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 22, 2023 at 6:54 am #

          Haven’t quite got you figured out yet, Zonk.

          So that’s good.

          That said, the Maui fire was pretty the only msm story for over a week (before the couple inches of rain the other day in CA that were supposedly “historic” and “catastrophic”, even though it has all happened before, and hey they needed the rain ffs).

          I didn’t want to hear any more official versions of the Lahaina fire at the time, nor do I now. So, I agree with you that I’d like to hear a detailed alt look at the event, because it all sounds wrong…but digging in to that is surely up to each writer/journalist to decide.

          I’ll check out your Rodriguez and Jaco. Curious.

          • MaryQueen August 22, 2023 at 7:33 pm #

            It’s O.G. Hawkins, Mango.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 22, 2023 at 8:45 pm #

            Thanks for the heads up, Mary. Certainly seemed oddly familiar…

          • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 10:18 pm #

            Of course digging into DEWs or not is JHK’s decision to make. I was merely expressing my hopes that JHK would look into DEWs as they are clearly an under-researched important topic.

            ***
            At the ‘chute, search out:

            SG Anon
            Juan O Savin
            Derek Johnson
            SGT Report
            Michael Jaco
            David Nino Rodriguez

            Very interesting stuff, imho.

          • MaryQueen August 23, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

            So I guess I’m imagining things when I read:

            “I understand that two brilliant essays per week in August is a very tall order but why ignore the biggest story of American civilian loss of life since 9/11

            Alrighty, then.

      • MaryQueen August 22, 2023 at 7:46 pm #

        Not to mention, he excludes the Covid19 plandemic (topic of this essay) from being the biggest psyops/hoax in human history, which has killed countless people, probably when all told, in the millions, and which is still going on full speed ahead.

        I hardly think the Lahaina tragedy/psyops/false flag/etc. is larger than that.

        • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 10:13 pm #

          I never said that Lahaina is bigger than the Covids but thanks for your endless spouting of strawmen.

          DEWs have only just begun. It is a bigger, more timely story (with many, many, many) than is another government is corrupt rehash. Obviously.

          • MaryQueen August 23, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

            Response is above, in wrong spot.

    • Amman August 22, 2023 at 6:38 am #

      Fire in the Empire.

      Xhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2hjuRCjuDY&ab_channel=mhtsosmatsagos

    • mrs_saj August 22, 2023 at 9:00 pm #

      DrZonk,

      Please search for “Maui”. Sometimes it’s just a matter of syntax and people use Maui as shorthand for Lahaina. Currently there are 9 instances of Maui, but I’m conducting this search with more than 500 comments at this point.

      I don’t think it is being ignored, just described differently than you expected.

      By the way, I’ve read that people without cars were able to bypass the police blockades and get out, while the cars (and their occupants) were stuck in police-created traffic jams. The drivers and their passengers died.

      • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 10:21 pm #

        Yes. It was police-enforced genocide!

  29. GarryOwenTroop August 21, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

    The Woke crowd will accuse us of Nietzsche-ism for abandoning the institutions. The same institutions that they have systematically corrupted or destroyed. They have burned the world to the ground and blame us for noticing.

  30. badberries August 21, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

    I’m in a quandry, I’m a Jeopardy addict and guess who now sponsors the only show I watch?

    Moderna.

    Should I boycott Jeopardy or suck it up?

    • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

      I don’t think you can avoid Big Pharma advertising on any TV show.

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

      Just turn it down during commercials and close your eyes too.

      • malthuss August 21, 2023 at 5:44 pm #

        I like watching magic negros.

        • badberries August 21, 2023 at 6:08 pm #

          hey, d’ya want some autographed Harlem Globetrotter basketballs?

      • badberries August 21, 2023 at 6:07 pm #

        You can’t avoid it b/c they announce the sponsorship and flash the logo. I’ve been timing the commercial stop-sets so I can leave it and rejoin right on time.

    • Amman August 22, 2023 at 5:32 am #

      I’m sure they have old shows of J on Youtube.

  31. Ed Haskell August 21, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

    Mr Kunstler,

    I agree with your article.

    Sadly, our ‘untrustworthy people in charge’ who likely attained their positions by employing ‘dubious systems for gathering the vote’ will now put forth every effort to avoid the remedy of ‘paper ballots hand-counted in small precincts of manageable size, all done on one day, which we call Election Day’. That remedy would most probably put trustworthy people in charge who likely would investigate the previous ‘dubious systems for gathering the vote’ which, also likely, might mean judicial punishment for quite a lot of ‘untrustworthy people in charge’.

    As Sir Walter Scott wrote in his poem in 1808, “Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive”.

    Or, another way to put it, “the shit’s gonna hit the fan…”

    Cheers

  32. Mister Roboto August 21, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

    Well, until Election Day becomes this national holiday you recommend it be (a good idea for which I’m not holding my breath), I think we still need absentee-voting at City Hall for working people who have the crazy work-schedules that are so typical these days. With early voting at City Hall, you don’t have the chain-of-custody problems you have with mail-in voting, which should only be allowed for people in special circumstances such as nursing homes for the elderly.

    • Mister Roboto August 21, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

      I would also like to add that I’m ashamed to admit that I fell for the Covid psy-op at first, but it was the sub-psy-op against ivermectin which made me take notice and begin the process of waking the fuck up. Though I don’t share JHK’s apparent animus towards transgender people (though I don’t think school-teachers and officials should be trying to tell confused and impressionable kids that they might be transgender, WTF is up with that?), I am now pretty much on the same page as he is about what’s going on in this country, and it’s some very alarming and disquieting stuff to have to realize. It has me voting Republican now, and ten years ago, I would have thought that was something that would never happen in a million years!

      • Paula D August 21, 2023 at 5:14 pm #

        I would have to disagree on both the early voting and the harmless transgender assertion.

        Leaving your early vote at City Hall opens up a chain-of-custody problem that relies on honest employees, never a good idea.
        Having polls on Election Day open at 6am and stay open until 7pm pretty much covers any weird shift.

        Having children taught from toddlerhood that they can choose their sex, and might be in the “wrong body”, requiring hormones and surgery to correct, is probably the worst thing this trans agenda does, but having males compete in female sports and change and shower in female locker rooms is up there in outrageous demands.

        Women in prison are having predatory men put into their cells, including rapists and child molestors.
        Women in prison complain bitterly about not feeling safe to have their children visit them on visitation days, because of the child molesters.

        Women do not appreciate men taking their places in sports, setting new records, knocking actual women out of place, and winning female scholarships.

        I hate all that and more. Maybe if you were female, you would understand how insulting it is to have to call some 6 foot dude “she”, or face violent threats.
        Maybe you would understand how demeaning it is to be called a “menstruator” instead of a woman or a “birthing person” instead of a mother,

        How would you like being told that talking about your body parts was “hateful”, but that your vagina is now called a “front hole.” (Insulting as well as inaccurate, but then, anyone who thinks that a man can be born with a lady brain can’t be expected to know any other female anatomy.)

        So, no, it isn’t just a matter of being kind and tolerating fetishes, it is an assault on women, and on reality itself, as well as a totalitarian demand that citizens must submit to the most insulting of reality denial, as their owners decree.

        Who you gonna believe, your lying eyes or the Human Resources department?

        • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 5:28 pm #

          The new one is “bonus hole”. Imagine the person who came up with that.

          And how insulting to have women thinking that they can be men too, right? And of course sad in both cases.

          • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

            It is worse than insulting, but yes, it is wrong in both cases.

            The younger generation has been swaddled in bullshit for all their lives, so the rapid onset of gender dysphoria in girls is relatively new, compared to the middle-aged men freed to live out their fetishes in public and “be affirmed” by all they meet, by law.

            But yes, 14 y.o. girls having their breasts chopped off? Outrageous.

            And giving children puberty blockers which stop normal growth and development? Despicable.

            And giving girls testosterone, which damages them permanently?

            Atrocities, all.

        • badberries August 21, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

          The men competing in “Womens” sports have no sense of Honor. They are living a lie.

          I would be horribly embarrassed to accept any award on the podium.

          • Cankerpuss August 21, 2023 at 6:19 pm #

            I think they are taking revenge upon women. Decades of boys being forced to think like girls in schools, television debasing men and fathers, and putting women on a pedestal has rubbed some men the wrong way and now they are taking their revenge. Yes, it is disgusting. But a perverted mind full of anger will do many strange things.

          • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 11:54 pm #

            Yes, the Feminists refuse to take any responsibility for what they have unleashed upon us and above all, upon themselves.

            Yes, these men have no honor. And yes, women have viciously mocked male honor for generations as have Liberals and Leftists in general.

            And by mocking gender roles in general, and encouraging the collapse of the family, they have engendered a gender crisis in girls as well.

            Karma.

          • Amman August 22, 2023 at 5:31 am #

            Should such men be stoned to death?

          • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

            This is an Establishment agenda, just like feminism was.

            Women don’t have the power to decree that the entire society bow to a particular male fetish.

            It is coming from the top.

          • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 6:04 pm #

            Wrong, Paula.

            Feminism is a globalist agenda. The Rad Fems – vicious haters – have rebelled against the Agenda.

            I hope your not taking their side. The hatred of men helped bring this whole thing on.

          • MaryQueen August 22, 2023 at 8:04 pm #

            Cankerpuss understands the middle aged male autogynophile fetishists, because he also hates women (apparent from his comments) as they do.

            At least he is correct about the misogyny.

        • Heartlander August 22, 2023 at 1:09 am #

          Telling a child that he or she is in the “wrong” body — in other words, that he or she is a “mistake” or some sort of joke on God’s or Mother Nature’s part — is the absolute epitome of cruelty.

          And introducing children under the age of 10 to sexual material is a form of psychosocial child abuse. The ONLY purpose it serves is to groom children for predators. It is rape of their psyches and murder of their innocence.

          Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know a damn thing about child development. Read Piaget, for the love of God!

      • Cankerpuss August 21, 2023 at 6:18 pm #

        You know what convinced me early on that the virus was a sham? As they were shutting down restaurants, fitness centers, churches, and many small businesses, they permitted the Walmarts, Home Depots, Targest and Amazons to stay open.

        My simple mind didn’t quite understand why the virus would spread and infect people at church or at the gym but not at Walmart or Home Depot. Then it suddenly dawned on me. This is a fraud, designed to frighten the people in to submission, ouster Donald Trump from the Presidency and usher in an era of insanity and mental illness. Designed to make the mega billionaires wealthier. Because, you know, 4 billion dollars isn’t enough. They need 10 billion. Greedy bastards!

        They didn’t fool me but the sure fooled an awful lot of people.

        • Amman August 22, 2023 at 3:44 am #

          In time, there were so many ways to see through it all.

    • Islander August 21, 2023 at 10:29 pm #

      Mister Roboto:
      I agree with you. I don’t have a problem with the chain of custody with early voting at City Hall.

      When I have voted early at Town Hall, I have never tried to vote in person, just to test whether my name was already checked on the voter rolls.

      However, when I was mailed a ballot and then I decided to vote in person, I brought the ballot with me and asked whether I should use that one, and was told yes.

      It did seem quite possible that I could have mailed in the ballot and then asked for a second one when I went in person to the polling place.

      Suppose I vote in person, then the mail-in ballot arrives a few days later (as they were allowing in some states). My name would be checked off when I voted in person, but would anyone be comparing all the late-arriving mail-in ballots to all the local voting rolls to ensure that no one voted twice?

      That seems to me like a big crack in the system.

      The supposed rationale of mail-ins is “to make it easier to vote, to exercise the most important civic obligation” blah blah. No, mail-in ballots directly impinge on “one man, one vote” by blurring the edges around the correct identification of registered voters (how many mail-ins were mailed to people who are not registered, are dead, or who knows what?), and inviting double voting.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 22, 2023 at 7:06 am #

        I guess I’d have to volunteer sometime and find out what actually takes place at the polls (front room ans back room) on an election day in my city to get some perspective.

        Perhaps they really do take pride in their function and do check everything? Or perhaps (more likely), they’re humans, and therefore potentially lazy, and just wanna go home and watch TV with an IPA and Jalapeno Cheetos at some point, signing off prematurely and letting some discrepancies slip through the cracks.

        My assumption is that the smaller the municipality, the more accurate the vote. Which does not bode well for the majority of large D cities blotting the landscape of this country.

        We need more Mabels and Pearls keeping tally.

  33. jim August 21, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

    “So the ideologues therefore don’t act in good faith, though they think they do.”

    What about neurotics (like myself).

    How do our own personal, often neurotic, character structures contribute to our respective ideological perspectives?

    Is a viewpoint that it is only the others around us who are at fault as out of touch as that of the liar or the ideologue?

    • Islander August 21, 2023 at 10:32 pm #

      Ideologues care more about being right—and about being acknowledged to be right, to have been right, to be right all the time, etc.—than about the truth.

      We have a few ideologues commenting here. I think you all can recognize them.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 22, 2023 at 7:23 am #

        Lol. I’m guessing my (very lovely) wife would agree with you on this.

      • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 3:00 pm #

        Yes, and the antedote is to tell them to prove what they claim is true.

        OG is so angry he’s now got a third troll handle to go along with Zonk and Night Bro (Circles).

        😀

        • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 10:30 pm #

          You are not nearly as clever as you think, NO. I had never heard of Night Bro until you started alleging that I am him. I am not him. Scout’s honour.

          ***
          What happened to your horrific allegations towards beantownbill., NO? Put your money where you mouth is. Cough up solid evidence against the man or take your allegations back and apologize to the man … like a man, man.

          ***
          I was angry, NO. Not anymore. That all changed in June 2023. Now I am ambivalent. Ambivalence allows for much better analysis than does anger, that’s for sure.

          • Night Owl August 23, 2023 at 5:02 am #

            When you get banned again, no one will care.

            Except maybe Paula D.

          • Dr Zonk August 23, 2023 at 10:31 am #

            Grow up, child.

          • Night Owl August 23, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

            Truth hurts, eh?

  34. SaHiB August 21, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

    Elon Muskox still demonizes me because I insisted, nearly 3 years ago, ivermectin is a HUMAN drug.

  35. Roundball Shaman August 21, 2023 at 3:28 pm #

    “Authority, you see, is granted only to those who are trustworthy… Bring on some new Covid variants and the lovely new booster vax that’ll work so well (not). Go ahead, we should say, I dare you. We won’t be fooled again.”

    Let’s just say… We damned well better NOT get fooled again. If we are, we are as stupid as ‘They’ already believe we are.

    Why is it so (damned) hard for great numbers of humans to understand that liars are in fact – LIARS. Which means that they tell falsehoods and harmful fantasies to mislead and harm others. And They should ignored and laughed at, not venerated and worshiped.

    Why is it so (damned) hard for great numbers of humans to understand that just because someone has a title and position that this does NOT means that you should believe a single damn thing they say? Trust must be earned. Trust is not conveyed or achieved by just having a nice title or leadership position.

    And the truth is… many people who do have fancy titles and leadership positions are just damned liars at their core. How does anyone think they rose to the level of their position in the first place? Because of their great moral and ethical character? Because they place such high value on standing for the truth? Hell no. These are grifters and opportunists who would sell their own mother and kids for money and status. You cannot value truth and serve in a high position anywhere in the World because this is simply not allowed. If you tried to stand for truth you would very quickly be ushered out of the door and laughed out of the ‘profession’.

    But the public has a desperate need to believe in something. They don’t seem to believe much in God anymore. They certainly don’t seem to believe in themselves. And so, they channel their innate need to ‘Believe’ into these selfish opportunist politicians and phony ‘The Science!’ so-called authorities and medical people who long ago sold off their Hippocratic Oath for money and to secure their phony positions in the medical industrial complex. And do you still seek out your minister or priest for moral guidance? Your teachers? Really?

    People are weak of mind and character. Look around you and the evidence is everywhere. Those who stand for truth are marginalized, ridiculed, and silenced. Truth and integrity have become sad punch-lines for a sick Society hell-bend on self destruction.

    People don’t seem to want the truth. In fact, many hate it with a passion. They prefer the lies and the fantasies. They sit waiting for Daddy Authority to come around and tell them another ‘story’.

    ‘Tell me another one, Daddy!’. And Daddy State is happy to oblige. There may be shortage of money and ethics and morals and integrity these days. But there is no shortage of lies for Daddy to peddle to a public now hooked on anything False.

    Nor is there a shortage of very sad souls who now have come to love lies over truth.

    • Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 3:53 pm #

      Well-said, RS! That reminds me of something that I said recently that I thought was common wisdom but ultimately caused some CFN gaskets to burst:

      Hard times make good men
      Good men make good times
      Good times make weak men
      Weak mean make hard times

      Rinse. Repeat.

      • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 5:32 pm #

        So we should stop this pendulum with Wisdom. The good men shouldn’t make things too good lest they create weak men. Moderation in all things, including moderation.

      • Woodchuck August 21, 2023 at 5:57 pm #

        or – “empires rise and fall”

        Rinse. Repeat. Repeat until we arrive at the very last empire in history – and it was such a catastrophe after it fell we decided never again – no more empires. Then what? Is it something we can outgrow just as we collectively got tired of the institution of slavery?

        • Roundball Shaman August 21, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

          Woodchuck: “Repeat until we arrive at the very last empire in history – and it was such a catastrophe after it fell we decided never again – no more empires. Then what?”

          Empires of any Age and kind are a manifestation of some of the worst impulses in the human psyche. The desire to dominate… to control… to rule. These are not the qualities of a healthy mind.

          Well-adjusted and mature people have no need or desire to dominate and control and rule. They are at home in their own skin and secure in their own personal power and life station without the sick need to get pleasure from dominating and dehumanizing others.

          There is no such thing as a healthy Empire. Just as there is nothing good or healthy about an abusive boss or spouse or any other kind of dominant, power-abusive-based relationship. There simply are too many people that are just not of healthy mind and so they act out their adolescent harmful pathologies upon others… whether at home, the workplace, or the canvass of the Whole Planet. They need to hurt others in order to feel… ‘something’. Truly tragic for everyone involved.

          There will be a final Empire one day one of two ways. Humans will finally outgrow our sickly need to dominate others. Or, this mental illness will consume us and we will implode within our own bad impulses.

          And those who come upon our Planet will wonder what happened to us and what kind of beings we were… if it goes in the wrong direction.

        • Anthea August 22, 2023 at 8:02 pm #

          @ Woodchuck:

          Sadly, I do not think we “got tired of the institution of slavery.” In the first place, it is probably more pervasive than ever before, but has just been re-named and reorganized.

          In the second place, the only reason we (mostly) rejected overt chattel slavery was because it became uneconomical. We now have machinery for “hewing our wood and drawing our water,” so to speak–and they are cheaper than maintaining a staff of servants. The day that we have to choose between doing our own laundry by hand in a washtub (after heating the water over a wood fire, after cutting and splitting the wood) and compelling someone else to do it, will be the day that we once again embrace slavery.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder August 22, 2023 at 7:18 am #

        While this is a truism, I can’t imagine it caused any burst gaskets here.Or maybe I missed that day (?).

        Also, it is “strong men”, not “good men”, and the quote is attributed to G. Michael Hopf, circa 2016, though he may have appropriated it.

        It does sound like it should have been a Jeffersonian or Franklinian quote though. Impressive work on Hopf’s part.

        • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 9:45 pm #

          Oh but it did, Mr M. Gaskets plural. stelmosfire was a complete write-off while someone else (I’m drawing a blank) was also breaking.

        • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 9:46 pm #

          And, yes, ‘Strong men’ is better than using ‘good’ for both times and men. Thx.

    • Woodchuck August 21, 2023 at 6:07 pm #

      “But the public has a desperate need to believe in something.”

      Well yes, the general public has always consisted of various types of “believers”. And they believe and promote all sorts of whacky ideas and various religious concepts to help with their fears of passing away.

      Centuries ago you’d call a priest to assist with making the dying process a bit less frightening. Today most everyone might have a priest show up for ceremonial purposes, but the doctors will be the stars of your dying show – you faith and trust will be in the doctors and nurses. And we take pills from them like in the old days we’d take communion – a magic wafer once a week will fix both body and soul!

      • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

        This guy has never had a spiritual experience, at least not a Christian one.

        • Woodchuck August 23, 2023 at 5:18 pm #

          Yes Jarek, we are all aware of the fact that you consider yourself to be spiritual and the rest of us mere vessels of clay doomed for destruction. You seem to have some issues that were common to the Gnostics.

  36. Jarek August 21, 2023 at 5:36 pm #

    Barnhardt

    Ivermectin discovery and backstory – definitely for the “Just Too Cool” file…
    The more you read about Ivermectin, the cooler it gets.

    It was discovered by a Japanese bacteriologist named Satoshi ?mura in the 1960s as he was randomly collecting soil samples and culturing them to see what bacteria cropped up, and if there were any previously undiscovered, and if so, if they had any medicinal properties.

    You know. SCIENCE.

    Well, sure enough, Streptomyces avermictilis, Omura named it, cropped up in a sample from his golf course outside of Tokyo. Its anti-parasitic properties were instantly identified by Merck, and it became, as this article says, one of the top-three all-time most important and essential drugs in human history, along with penicillin and aspirin. Over 3.7 billion doses have been dispensed to HUMANS so far, with not only no real side effects, but also no reduction in its efficacy.

    The piece I’m going to reprint in full below was originally posted on November 21, ARSH 2019, before the CoronaScam religion was launched in the post-Christian west. This is important, because the piece doesn’t have any CoronaScam religious death-cult agenda over it. It’s just a neat story about a totally non-controversial drug, Ivermectin, and the article says nothing about Ivermecton’s ANTI-VIRAL properties – only its anti-parasitic efficacy. So when you are told by doctors and so-called public health officials that Ivermectin can’t be prescribed as a prophylactic or even as a treatment for the CoronaCold because “it isn’t safe” or “it’s unapproved”, you need to fully understand the depths of the truly evil and murderous mendacity behind that statement. Ivermectin is considered one of the Triumvirate of human drugs in the world today and has been for decades: P.I.A. Penicillin, Ivermectin, Aspirin.

    Sit in stillness with the thought of Aspirin or Penicillin being discovered as a cure for… tuberculosis, or cancer, or… AIDS, and doctors and government monsters like Fauci saying, “No. You CANNOT have penicillin (or aspirin) to treat your cancer… because IT ISN’T “SAFE”. Guys, the analogy here is exact. Ivermectin has been dosed to humans ubiquitously in the third world as an anti-parasitic 3.7 BILLION times. No side effects. And it can’t be used in a so-called “pandemic” (eyeroll) because it isn’t SAFE? Meanwhile the DeathJab is basically a clotting inciter, healthy young people are stroking-out right and left, miscarriages right and left, and great-grandma is menstruating again. But they’ll look you in the eye and tell you that Ivermectin, the “I” in the P.I.A. Triumvirate, is “unsafe”.

    Evil, lying, murderous, luciferian death-cultist bastards.

    Final thought, on a positive note. The Streptomyces avermictilis bacterium has never been seen or cultivated in the wild since Omura’s golf course sample. Talk about the Divine Providence. Think about the odds. This bacterium just happened to be present in the exact spot on a golf course outside of Tokyo which just happened to be frequented by a man who just happened to be a bacteriologist, who just happened to be taking soil samples and just happened to collect in the exact place where Streptomyces avermictilis was patiently waiting, doing its bacterial thing.

    And it just happens to be a cure for the common seasonal cold and influenza, exactly what the Freemasonic New World Order and Antichurch are using in their global totalitarian putsch and Antichurch construction project.

    If you believe that is a coincidence, then you probably believe that influenza was miraculously globally eradicated overnight in April of ARSH 2020, and that Jorge Bergoglio is the Vicar of Christ.

    Jarek: The herb was made for the healing of the nations. What made him dig right there – the only place in the world that it was? Fools prate of chance, but what was the chances of that? The same as a tornado hitting a junk yard and assembling a jet.

    • Islander August 21, 2023 at 6:16 pm #

      There was a comprehensive article at Wikipedia on ivermectin that I accessed while the psy-op demonizing it was occurring.

      So, anyone could inform themselves on its history: how it was discovered; its original use for animals; the work that was done to retool it for human use; the Nobel Prize that was given I believe to the fellows who did the work to retool it for humans.

      The current Wiki contains a totally absurd paragraph, which I think is new, warning against ivermectin as a treatment for covid-19. Bwahaha. Wiki playing doctor!

      For more of the actual interesting details of the history of the development of ivermectin for treating humans (and the truly inspiring tale of the donation of ivermectin to African countries and the consequent eradication of river blindness), see this article:

      httpX://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_C._Campbell_(scientist)

      • Islander August 21, 2023 at 6:23 pm #

        Here is a comprehensive National Library of Science article from 2011:

        httpX://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

        Again, anyone could have informed him- or herself about Ivermectin via a simple online search.
        And many did.
        As I did.
        Jeez.
        You really had to squeeze your eyes and brain shut hard to remain ignorant of the Ivermectin psy-op.

      • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 11:47 pm #

        Or to deny the supernatural aspect of its discovery.

    • TPTB-USA August 22, 2023 at 5:20 am #

      Are you allowed to tell us the name of the junk yard?

      • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

        It’s not safe to say.

  37. That Guy August 21, 2023 at 5:45 pm #

    It doesn’t really matter if we won’t get fooled again, because they will, and there are a lot more they

  38. That Guy August 21, 2023 at 6:23 pm #

    There are people here, and out there, still hopeful for party politics.
    Hopeful for elections, and presidents, and up-and-coming politicians.
    This type of ignorance is rather sad, as it is foolish, and one need not be concerned about getting fooled again if they are currently playing the fool.

    I am unsure if it was touched on in JHK’s last podcast or a previous podcast, but the guest understood that we are in the nascent or expansionist stages of a “the party” political system. We have a singular establishment power that, at present time, no longer works to maintain any pretext of a binary, dual party sructure.

    The establishment wants what the CCP in China has, and they want it now. One group in control, one voice, one direction, one choice.

    It is extremely clear who this establishment views as a direct threat to this goal. Like him or loathe him, at least know this.

    And maybe contemplate, or know, one more thing: consider China is exhausting both Russia and the USA over in the Ukraine.

    Things are very far from what they seem with the US doing China’s bidding there.

    The podcast guest also touched on Pinker’s Left Pole theory where any idea, thought, understanding that does not totally conform with the extreme left position is therefore extreme right.

    When COVID reappears and the Climate hustle blames all the fires in Canada, Maui, Tenerife, Greece that should rightly be attributed to arsonists and general incompetence but will be blamed on climate change the fools will be fooled again and “the party” will take even more power which means even more of your freedom, and although you are not fooled, you’re still stuck with the cap ‘n bells.

  39. badberries August 21, 2023 at 6:28 pm #

    It’s going to get really freaking hot next week 100+. Cue the riots again? It’s been a dull summer!

    • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

      It’s already unbearably hot here, and it’s going to last for 6 days.

      Horrible.

    • Anthea August 22, 2023 at 8:57 pm #

      It’s been 99°-101° here in the Kansas City area since Sunday. This coming Saturday, the heat is forecast to break, with a high of only 90°. Most things in the garden have slowed down quite a bit, and tomatoes appear to be almost done–after picking 10-15 pounds of them yesterday. I still got a pretty good haul of peppers and eggplants this morning.

      The humidity is terrible. Yesterday morning was very hot, even before 9:00 am, and slightly foggy, even in the heat–like a tropical rain forest.

      • Woodchuck August 23, 2023 at 6:25 pm #

        Hot and humid in the south here. I’ve been spending days canning taters in a hot kitchen. The only ac I have is in the room next to the kitchen, and I go there for relief. The kitchen is hot as hell from a canner and large pots of hot water standing around and hot jars cooling. All the steam being vented in the kitchen makes the humidity even worse.

        I like to think of myself as being a tough guy, but to be honest, I can’t stand the heat in this kitchen sometimes and have to get out of from time to time for relief. Yeah, I could get another window ac to put in the kitchen, but I’m too stingy, don’t like paying electric bills, and I enjoy ragging other people about not being able to “go green” and do what I do. And besides, if I wasn’t suffering like this I’d have to cope with thoughts that women generations ago could routinely do work that male pussies today (including myself) are too chickenshit and soft to do. I do all the peeling, cutting, and jar stuffing in the next room where it’s cool. And I’m cooking on an electric range, not a wood fired one. It’s a bit sobering for me when I image some of my female ancestors and their neighbors and friends doing this sort of work all summer long before indoor climate control was available in the south, fans were all they had, and before that they were doing water bath canning on mercilessly hot wood fired stoves. These old fashion cookstoves would run the indoor temps in your kitchen up to at least 100 degrees with 100% humidity. If I was living back in the old days I’d be canning at night and sleeping during the day – if sleep was even possible in the heat we had before ac.

  40. SteveK9 August 21, 2023 at 6:57 pm #

    It’s not the government I fear, it is my fellow idiot citizens.

    • elysianfield August 22, 2023 at 11:29 am #

      Steve,
      Your fellow citizens…Is that all that’s bothering you, Bunky?

      The Situational Awareness, this AM reports;

      State legislation passed in California, Colorado, and Illinois authorizes state and local police agencies to hire non-citizen immigrants who are protected from deportation by Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) policies or who have work permits issued by the Department of Homeland Security.
      Lawmakers in Nevada, Wisconsin, and New Jersey have also considered state laws allowing non-citizens to serve as law enforcement officers.
      Why It Matters: Officials are citing a hiring crisis for why they need to expand hiring to non-citizens, but Democratic state and local officials have created conditions that incentivize cops to retire or resign. It is difficult to see how hiring non-citizens, especially those who entered the country illegally, to police American streets wouldn’t undermine the legitimacy of state and local law enforcement.

      If you experience fear and loathing due to your citizen neighbors, those who share your cultural values and mores, consider when Habib and Hakim show up at your door.

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/27/mohamed-noor-freed-parole-justine-damond-minneapolis

  41. socialisthater August 21, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

    My late father, who was pretty smart fellow–educated in many things, including economics–spent 4+ years in the prime of his life fighting the Socialist/Fascist Nazis in World War II, while some of his younger peers in the family spent some of their prime years fighting Communist/Socialists in Korea and even Viet Nam. My Dad correctly said Communism and Fascism were just two heads on the Socialist hydra. And now, today’s Democrat Party in the U.S. has combined the most evil, vicious and despicable tenets of the Fascist/Socialists and Communist/Socialists into what the Democrat Party calls, “progressive”, “woke”, or “inclusive”–all BS terms to hide what is bald-faced totalitarian Socialism.

    My father also quoted someone who wisely said of Socialists, “Socialists would rather die with their lies than live with the truth.” That is what we are seeing now. The now full Socialist Democrat Party lies about everything, no matter that the lies are becoming obvious to more and more intelligent people, that the lies are causing real harm–economic, physical, and emotional–to the citizens of the U.S., and that the lies may likely start a Third World War–a war that may very likely have a biological warfare component that will make COVID look like child’s play. And all of that harm caused by Democrat lying, deceit, and deception is aimed directly at innocent, law-abiding American citizens.

    • Jarek August 21, 2023 at 10:10 pm #

      No, the Fascists and National Socialists fought the International Bankers and their system of Capitalism/Communism – with Socialism as the uneasy midpoint on that line.

      Political Correctness maturing into Woke is our own homegrown form of Communism.

  42. Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 9:10 pm #

    @SSL,

    I posted this fulfillment of your request last night on A Bumpy Ride’s comments. I post it again to Won’t Get Fooled Again to ensure that you do see it.

    ***
    As discussed, here is a picture of a DEW laser-beam igniting mayhem in Lahaina on 8/8:

    Start at 12:00 for context. The picture is displayed at 12:37.

    bitchuteDOTcom/video/Zgeb0AU6Sy6A/

    • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 4:02 am #

      Thank you, Doctor. I’ve read in some places that the green lasers that flowed in a sequence in the skies over Hawaii (don’t recall exactly which island) several months back may have been a test or exercise in preparation for this strike. I also noted your post below regarding the ongoing coverup of the attack. I will take a look at it tomorrow. They say there are more than 1,000 still missing. More like in the thousands according to others. Difficult to even imagine. So I will rest my mind for now. Good night.

    • MaryQueen August 22, 2023 at 8:11 pm #

      That’s a video, not a picture of a DEW laser-beam igniting something.

      A channel which of course sells stuff because that’s its main function.

      LOL.

      • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 9:28 pm #

        It is actually a picture displayed during the video, as stated at the 12:37 mark.

        Is non-profit, non-fundraising the only viable source of any and all truth? If so, where should I go to read the truth?

        • MaryQueen August 23, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

          I haven’t cornered the market on truth, O.G.

          So, not sure why you’re asking me. But I do know that the Qanoners are all grifters, or dupes. Not many that aren’t one or the other.

          Ask me about the first Qanon leaders – Simon Parke, Charlie Ward, etc. Kerry Cassidy is their biggest cheerleader even after they were exposed.

          • Dr Zonk August 23, 2023 at 2:48 pm #

            I see. You discount and discredit a source that I point to because they “sell stuff” (to fund their operations) but you have no constructive suggestions for other sources. Gotcha.

            Not exactly helpful, though, eh?

            ***
            Mary, please tell me why Derek Johnson is wrong today because of Simon Parke’s actions long ago, ok?

          • MaryQueen August 23, 2023 at 3:03 pm #

            LOL.

  43. Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 9:48 pm #

    Here we go again …

    Atlanta college reinstates mask mandate for students, employees on campus

    An Atlanta college announced this week that it is reinstating its mask mandate for everyone on campus.

    Morris Brown College began classes just last week, but will require all students and employees to wear face masks.

    news.yahoo.com/atlanta-college-reinstates-mask-mandate-181901379.html

    • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

      It is what happens when ignorant folks try to run things.

      Just like DC.

      Congress is supposed to be the source of intelligence to create solutions in financing and problem solving for the country.

      Hahahahahahahaha!

      Obviously the best analogy for the administration of Morris Brown is a rubber stamp.

      Liberal woke idiots.

  44. KesaAnna August 21, 2023 at 10:40 pm #

    ” You’re a bit like Jarek… ”

    Well this is a place where don’t even know each others names .

    In some ways blindness can be a plus — like I suppose race or wealth doesn’t quite have the same bite when you are blind.

    But it also has its negatives.

    That having been said ,

    If I had to guess , I would guess the two people I most resemble on CFN are Jarek and You.

    In your case , for example , you write long and detailed essays finally punctuated with the verdict , ” I don’t care. ”

    Likewise , I suspect the reasons for that are actually very similar.

    Life is complicated .

    And one of the things that means is that like and dislike are not necessarily that relevant.

    • KesaAnna August 21, 2023 at 10:47 pm #

      * In your case , for example , you write long and detailed essays finally punctuated with the verdict , ” I don’t care. ”

      Like myself.

      • KesaAnna August 22, 2023 at 4:26 am #

        * ” … you wrote a long and detailed essay …. ”

        I should say in this case.

        You are correct , you engage in a lot less argument , debate , and general back – and – forth these days ,

        not just with me , but in general .

        • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 6:50 am #

          Yep, you are right. Pointless argument is pointless. I happen to agree with a lot of what you say, but when I don’t, arguing is literally pointless. I don’t feel any need to prove myself ‘right’ about anything, especially to you. My trajectory is mine; yours is your own.

          I have my own reasons for appreciating this site.

  45. KesaAnna August 21, 2023 at 11:04 pm #

    ” I noticed everyone just left you to your rant … ”

    Perhaps.

    Or maybe it is that I am very much in the habit of posting my book – length rants between the hours of Midnight – 5 AM on Mondays and Fridays.

    And if writing is something of an exhibitionist activity ,

    then that is the least preferred show time anyway.

    As for my rogue activity ,

    perhaps it is something of the opposite of rogue.

    I might perhaps prefer this least – preferred – show time because I greatly prefer Vampire hours.

    But also because if someone is uncomfortable with me / dislikes me / is uninterested in me ,

    THAT is , for most ( ? ) , the optimal time to be ignoring me / keeping me at a distance ?

    Other possible reasons why people might leave me alone to it is because they don’t really want to hear a different — radically different — point of view.

    Perhaps worse than opinion , a very different perception of reality ?

    Maybe they don’t really want to engage with the enemy ?

    Best the enemy stays at a distance , and through a glass darkly ?

    In my own view that would not necessarily make them the personification of evil.

    But frankly neither do I think it makes them saints.

    • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 6:39 am #

      Well, I guess you succeeded in planting my name in your post last time so that you would get the opportunity for exactlhy what you are now doing, so well done, if you think it was well done..

      And have a good day.

      PS You are not my enemy, even if you think I am yours. Rant away.

    • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 7:24 am #

      “Other possible reasons why people might leave me alone to it is because they don’t really want to hear a different — radically different — point of view.”

      You are assuming that, because they don’t respond, they aren’t reading. I read, but I don’t engage, even in the privacy of my own mind, when it descends into a hate rant. At that point I’m speed reading.

      Radically different points of view are interesting. Insight into places you don’t live yourself are especially interesting – one of my reasons for enjoying this site. I’d almost certainly like Appalachia but I couldn’t stand the heat for even an afternoon, as I’m calibrated to the lower end of a temperate maritime climate and don’t even like hot Scottish days when everyone else is desperate for them.

      Anyway, I can absorb a different view or new information without feeling the need to comment on it, most of the time. And I quite simply have far more to worry about – both family-wise and online – at the moment and much more information to absorb from many more places.

      • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

        Also when you comment on an unpopular pov, you help to popularize it, to give it power. You certainly don’t want to do that for the most part.

        Thus Quigley’s pov is final in your book. Maintaining the status quo anent the Tribe is what matters. As Rulo said, there are good and bad Japanese, Italians, and Jews.

        Jarek: Yes, but only one of those groups controls our media, finance, and foreign policy.

        Silence. What could he say after all? His statement was true but inane. Mine was both true and pertinent.

        • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 2:43 pm #

          Quigley’s research wasn’t about his POV, primarily. He was trusted by the Network; he admired them; he was given personal access to their secret papers. What was in those papers wasn’t his POV – it was an account of how they achieved their aims, whether in getting Woodrow Wilson elected,creating the CIA, extending WWI or facilitating the birth of the State of Israel. I have never suggested that there aren’t powerful Jewish influences at work (not that I have any specialised knowledge of anything in the matter anyway – how the heck would I know?). But the Network is not primarily Jewish, as far as I can ascertain (which is not very far, I am very happy to concede).

          I don’t know what statement you are referring to. I haven’t even read his book yet. What I know about him (not that much) is from Joe Plummer’s synopsis of his books, primarily.

          Rulo is right, of course.

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 2:46 pm #

            I think having a personal hobby-horse impedes getting nearer to the truth, rather than helping with it.

            And we’ll all know the truth one day, won’t we?

          • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

            From our POV, it does appear to be a network. It is actually a pyramid.

          • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 5:54 pm #

            Rulo is right – about what? That they don’t control our media, banking, and foreign policy?

            Your hobby horse is the status quo. You’re defending it even though it has betrayed you, much like an abused spouse defending their abuser.

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 7:15 pm #

            To say I’m defending the status quo is beyond bad faith. But not a surprise from our toadie. Rulo was right in whatever you quoted in your post – I can’t be bothered checking back. It wasn’t anything earth-shattering.

          • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 7:53 pm #

            The ad hominems begin from “the lady”.

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 9:52 pm #

            Right, because lying about me is OK and it’s not OK to call you out on it.

            Got it.

            Fortunately everyone on this site knows your MO and you are admonished for it regularly.

          • MaryQueen August 22, 2023 at 10:58 pm #

            LOL, Jarek accusing someone else of supporting the status quo is just too too precious.

      • Islander August 22, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

        ““Other possible reasons why people might leave me alone to it is because they don’t really want to hear a different — radically different — point of view.””

        Ha ha ha.
        Translation: If you ignore me it is because you have a neurosis.

        Nice try, but no cigar.

  46. Dr Zonk August 21, 2023 at 11:45 pm #

    Exclusive: Coverup Of Massive Maui Death Toll Confirmed By Reporters On Ground

    banned.video/watch?id=64e2c0642ed5c40da95912ba

    Is film-maker Jason Jones a reliable source?

    “The mainstream media is not treating Lahaina with the respect that it deserves.”

    • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

      Yes, 9/11 was useful to them so it was screamed to the skies in order to commence their plans in the Middle East.

      They want to cover this up quickly and quietly rebuild this city according to the specifications.

      • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

        Yes. Lahaina was genocide.

        • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

          Do your two new sock accounts agree?

          I await their takes.

          • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 7:11 pm #

            God bless you, NO.

          • Jarek August 23, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

            You’re not with Mary anymore. You don’t have to act like this now.

  47. KesaAnna August 22, 2023 at 12:03 am #

    Radically different perception of reality .

    Case in point ;

    ” Sad ”

    I hear that Vincent Van Gogh never sold a painting , and as best I recall , the works that made James Dean a household word , he got to enjoy his success about 6 months.

    And I doubt such absurdities and ironies of life are any less common among the anonymous.

    Or , ” Man hath no greater love than this ; That he gives his life for his friends. ”

    So ….. the best day of your life , is the day you get your head blown off ?

    I’m NOT ridiculing the Bible there.

    On the contrary , such is life , in my own opinion.

    Sad ?

    Well , to say in one reason why I never married ,

    it is simply to say ;

    I did not WANT to.

    So it’s all about freedom , except when one actually exercises it ?

    In the catagory of 101 reasons ;

    I didn’t want to feck one or six people ,

    or even 15 or 20 people.

    I wanted to feck everybody.

    Whites and Blacks , Chinese and Syrian and Mestizo .

    Fine with me , so let’s get married !

    Not fine with others in the context of marriage I’m afraid.

    The joke is ;

    ” The key to happiness is marry a Nymphomaniac , whose father owns a liquor store. ”

    Except it’s not even a pleasant thought for some ,

    for many it is ONLY a pleasant thought.

    And with the tiny bit that remains , there may be yet other deal – breakers .

    Is the other way better ?

    Well , not everyone is Brad Pitt , or Brooke Shields ,

    but I doubt everyone is the worlds greatest loser , either.

    So that may mean , it seems to me , that unless we go back to shotgun weddings ,

    ( Actually I would not vote against that )

    Whoever you pick , you will screw over a few others.

    Much the same deal with parenthood , except even worse.

    Even if you adopt a child instead , I have my doubts that an 8 year old can legitimately consent to such a bargain , anymore than they can legitimately consent to sex.

    It’s hardly all gravy.

    And neither was my choice.

    I suppose one reason Covid means little or nothing to me , even if it was a big deal ,

    is because , because I lack the safety net of supportive family , marriage , and children ,

    I rather doubt that oxygen tanks , nurses , and thousand – dollar – an – hour physicians are for me a realistic alternative.

    One day my number will be drawn , and I will simply die.

    Ironically , the same outcome as if I had joined the East German Army , and the Cold War had turned hot.

    It just took longer.

    As far as that goes , as I have said , near as I can tell , the average world – wide is that two out of three children never see age ten.

    And beyond that , the average life expectancy is 40.

    So I am at least a decade ahead of most.

    I don’t even live in Zambia , but already , best I can figure , at least half the people in my orbit the year I was born , people with more than an abstract importance to me , are already gone.

    I’m something of the last Mohican.

    Sad to you maybe ?

    To me it is just what it is.

    Indeed , the funny part is that near as I can tell , virtually all the people who look down on me have in common that I feel sorry for them.

    Like I suspect their acute thirst for justice has less to do with any principle , and more to do with an acute doubt on their part that they got enough pie.

    If happiness is that you got enough , why the butt hurt ?

    So it goes.

    • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 12:26 am #

      Like I suspect their acute thirst for justice has less to do with any principle , and more to do with an acute doubt on their part that they got enough pie.

      Brilliant.

      • KesaAnna August 22, 2023 at 12:52 am #

        Typically they would respond , rightly ,

        that is the pot calling the kettle black.

        But , typically , the important detail , in my opinion , they leave out is

        I say ;

        I’m a sad puppy — but don’t give me police power.

        It sure looks to me that their constant refrain is ;

        I’m a sad puppy — so give me more police powers than mountain of powers I already have.

        And there again , they are certainly correct that my view is a tiny minority deviant view.

        • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

          Good point. Your viewpoint must remain very, very small – like the Gay pov or radical Feminist pov. But these latter have been made dominant over everything, with predictable results.

          • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

            Sodom & Gomorrah on demand.

          • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 2:52 pm #

            A couple clicks away … and without the smell.

      • SpeedyBB August 24, 2023 at 10:42 pm #

        Yes Doctor, brilliant indeed. I just wonder whether crank brilliance as we see repeatedly unfurled with KesaAnna and Janos must always be linked with misanthropy. Two deeply unhappy, poisonous eminences.

        Are all brilliant cranks so cranky?

        Thinking of Nietzsche (early read, early influence). Poor dude seemed like he never had a fun, lighthearted day in his life. Lost his marbles at the end when he saw an animal being tortured.

        Thinking of the seers. Ramakrishna was fun and fully-realized, the real deal, and those encountering him often remarked on the sensation of sharing that brilliance – and sense of awareness. Not saying that is necessarily fun, but it is certainly not misanthropic.

        When Ramakrishna was dying of throat cancer, having smoked one too many Beedis, he was visited by a woman known as a great healer. Subtly, she started to take his illness onto herself – the great Bengali just laughed and said “You don’t have to do that”.

        Tough customer, as well as a divine one.

        Contemporary masters often seem to be beset with the miseries. Bhaktivedanta didn’t seem to be such great company, unless you were a devotee anxious to share his sizzle. Osho kept getting into trouble, including with the law. Sri Chinmoy (whom I followed a number of years) had the rug jerked from under him unexpectedly, after proclaiming how he would outlive his disciples. He also seemed annoyed and angry much of the time, which is not behavior one would expect of a God-realized master.

        Big-time Christian & Muslim “leaders” look full of themselves, swollen with pride and a tendency toward holy revenge, as opposed to fun-in-the-sun.

        Great awareness of the Infinite must come with a great awareness of a world in pain (Kesa comes to mind). Kali Yuga Boogie Woogie.

    • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

      Christianity is all about self denial, not doing what you want. Or not doing what you don’t want to do.

      But yes, marriage isn’t for everyone. But that doesn’t give you a blank check you see. Do you still think that it does? The Church teaches otherwise….

    • Paula D August 22, 2023 at 2:54 pm #

      Sometimes I think of the living of generations as being on a treadmill. We all get on at different times, and then as the ones who got on first fall away, more join. You know some of the ones before you, and meet some of the later ones, but they are on different tracks. If you live a long life, you are on that particular treadmill pretty much alone.

      Being in the same orbit is an interesting variant. Unless you meant the people in your family/friends as being the orbit, and not your generational cohort. Either way, though, people come and people go, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

  48. SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 3:46 am #

    I want to believe. But I wonder what they’ll do to make this time more convincing and spellbinding. Or if they even have that capacity anymore? The psych wars are so intense and seemingly new rubicons crossed each day, or perhaps each minute? Is it the desperation of a cornered animal or the bellicose charge of a bold enemy? In either case, it isn’t exactly a great omen for the months ahead.

    • Amman August 22, 2023 at 5:25 am #

      Months? If this is the Long Emergency, or 4th turning, it’s years.

      • KesaAnna August 22, 2023 at 5:27 am #

        Lol ,

        yes ,

        I keep winding up right back to the titles of Kunstler’s books.

        • Amman August 22, 2023 at 7:31 am #

          The Maui abomination-event falls under that

          • Amman August 22, 2023 at 7:33 am #

            …For many, it was their Last Emergency.

      • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:27 pm #

        The months will be coming before the years so I am just saying that the upcoming months are likely to be troubling. Who even knows what will be in years?

        • Amman August 22, 2023 at 4:32 pm #

          Sure, I got that, SSL.

          Martin Armstrong has a good long-term (i.e. years) forecasting record.

  49. KesaAnna August 22, 2023 at 4:44 am #

    ” It’s not the government I fear, it is my fellow idiot citizens. ”

    — Steve K9

    Same here.

    I think there is A LOT of truth in the saying that nations and peoples generally tend to get the kind of government they want — in a manner of speaking.

    ” In a manner of speaking ” like everyone wants freedom, and thinks themself a fine fellow .

    But they don’t really want that for their neighbor ,

    after that , it is not particularly hard to convince themselves that their neighbors are monkey children who need to be controlled ,

    and their subsequent actions attendant to that will certainly tend to bring about precisely that result ; The Self – fulfilling prophecy.

    So , though I have certainly applied the term ” idiot ” myself thousands of times ,

    one should perhaps be just as leery of it as they should be of the term , ” crazy . ”

    It’s too easy.

    Anyway ,

    so you do want freedom , freedom , freedom ,

    for you ………

    but in every other case your actions were otherwise.

    So you got dictatorship , seriously , because you asked for it.

    Notice that pretty much everything the peasants complain of the aristocracy about ,

    pretty much mirrors exactly what the aristocracy complains about the peasants.

    And vice – versa.

    • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

      And both are right. Human nature is fallen. But still we must have a leadership class and Aristocracy is one way to do that. The Confucian civil service exam was another.

  50. KesaAnna August 22, 2023 at 5:25 am #

    ” Ideologues care more about being right—and about being acknowledged to be right, to have been right, to be right all the time, etc.—than about the truth. ”

    — Islander

    Solzhenitsyn points out in the Gulag Archipelago that even when prison is merely a barbed wire fence , some tents , a hole for the shit , and an open sewer running down the center for water,

    it still winds up costing more than if you put the person up at the best hotel in the big city.

    I can’t recall when that book was published , but it was quite some time ago.

    And it is hardly the last study that arrives at the same conclusion.

    But being right , being in control , being safe ,

    means never mind that you are pounding your economy into the ground.

    Or the obvious eventual result that when you are rock bottom poor you will be neither right , nor in control , nor safe.

    • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

      Well then I for one would definitely prefer that Solzhenitsyn be the warden. But in reality being right is like having a critical possession. I don’t per se subscribe to the zero sum philosophy in relation to this subject matter. One can be poor and not in control or safe but right at the same time. It’s not as if being right necessarily confers wealth or safety or what have you. But being wrong is exactly what you shouldn’t want to be.

  51. Pucker August 22, 2023 at 7:00 am #

    Rumor has it that the Democrats are going to pull another Covid Emergency Flip Flam to rig the next election and stuff the ballot boxes again.


    The Ryazan incident cast a long shadow, which Vladimir Putin, soon to become Russia’s President, would never be entirely able to throw off. More and more Russians started believing that the Kremlin, not the Chechens, had organised the explosions.12 Putin, it was thought, had taken office too recently and was too much in Yeltsin’s shadow to have organised such an operation himself.13

    But the President and his inner circle, the Family, were a different matter. They might well have decided on a ‘strategy of tension’, as Giulietto Chiesa had called it, to justify a state of emergency and postpone the Duma elections. Speculation about this lurid scenario began within hours of Patrushev’s statement.

    Moskovsky komsomolets, a widely read if sensationalist Moscow tabloid which for days had been gleefully poking holes in the government’s version of events, asserted bluntly that the Presidential Administration had planned an ‘operation’ to destabilise Russia and had given it the go-ahead after Putin’s appointment as Prime Minister.14 Patrushev issued a denial, insisting that the perpetrators were ‘not some mythical conspirators in the Kremlin but completely concrete international terrorists’.15

    But by then the floodgates had opened. Next day, Nezavisimaya gazeta, which was read by the Moscow intelligentsia and much of the liberal establishment, expanded on the tabloid’s allegations. ‘For the first time,’ it said, ‘responsibility for the bombings of the apartment buildings in Russia has been clearly [ascribed] to the presidential family and, personally, to the head of the government, Vladimir Putin, as the de facto sponsor and organiser of the explosions. This charge is too serious … to be ignored.’16

    A few days later, Aleksandr Lebed, a retired general and former Secretary of the Security Council, told the French newspaper, Le Figaro, that he was ‘almost certain’ the regime was complicit in the bombings. ‘In order to hold on to power,’ he said, ‘all means are good.’17

    “Putin”, Philip Short

    • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 9:34 am #

      “Rumor has it that the Democrats are going to pull another Covid Emergency Flip Flam to rig the next election and stuff the ballot boxes again.”

      As OG has endlessly pointed out, that is a US-centric observation. The new covid emergency (‘Eris of Covidshire’*) is being pulled out everywhere and for the same reason. They need a final push to get the Pandemic Treaty through and the changes to the International Health Regulations ratified by this October, when they become written in stone if they are not challenged. And the fear needs to be turned up again after the release part of the squeeze-release programme. Rigging a US election is a very handy bonus, but it would be happening anyway, I think.

      *twitter.com/TheEyes2022/status/1693575275903111540

      • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

        You’re right. The US election is a key ingredient in the rancid stew that they brew.

  52. SpeedyBB August 22, 2023 at 7:29 am #

    The plot is hotting up. Who woulda thunk it would come down to this: conservative Congress vs. Military Wokelings?

    httpX://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/08/21/woke-pentagon-spending-center-of-upcoming-government-shutdown-fight.html?mc_cid=789541c388&mc_eid=c2babcfeb8

    • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:23 pm #

      haha i like that expression!! It’s hotting up. It is hotting up and headin toward overheatin lol 🙂

      • Disaffected August 23, 2023 at 9:56 am #

        The Euros/Brits like that one a lot, in my experience watching bike racing, but true Southern lazy tongue gives everything a whole ‘nother flavor altogether. When I was first stationed in GA I couldn’t hardly understand the native speakers, but especially the blacks. They took it to a whole ‘nother level. You had to watch visual clues to help out or you wouldn’t have any idea what they were talking about. Very expressive! Many of the older whites actually appeared to be trying to speak without moving their mouths (or anything else) at all. All you’d get would be one great big slurred together mess. I’ve tried many times, but I can’t even simulate writing it like it sounds. It would be wholly unintelligible.

  53. Amman August 22, 2023 at 9:44 am #

    No comment.

    Xhttps://twitter.com/i/status/1693834123205353488

  54. DaveO907 August 22, 2023 at 11:16 am #

    A memorable quote from Patrick Lawrence on August 2nd of this year:

    “I do not approve of columnists who self-reference, but I will breach my own rule on this occasion.

    I warned when all this started in 2016–2017 that liberal authoritarianism was vastly more dangerous than Trump’s arrival on the political scene. And here we are. I am reminded of my Tokyo years, when we used to say the governing Liberal Democratic Party was neither liberal nor democratic nor a party. As the Democratic Party has reconstituted itself in response to the Clinton defeat seven years ago, it is neither democratic nor, given how it operates, properly a party. It is a diabolic machine built to seize and hold power without reference to law or institutional integrity. “

    • DaveO907 August 22, 2023 at 11:29 am #

      httpx://scheerpost.com/2023/08/02/patrick-lawrence-reading-the-mess-the-democrats-have-made/

    • BackRowHeckler August 22, 2023 at 11:40 am #

      Sounds about right. Yesterday we learned our Dem governor Ned Lamont, a descendant of Bolshevik Billionaire & JP Morgan partner Corliss Lamont, has submitted a plan to ban all gasoline powered automobiles in Ct by 2035.

      The average price of an EV is about $70,000, rising 8-12% per year. By 2035 your typical sh#tbox, golfcart model EV should run you about $199,000.

      • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 1:12 pm #

        It ain’t going to happen! History shows that the typical American responds to coercion by going the opposing direction.

        If EVs were feasible, economically, they would just happen. The government would not have to shove them down our throats.

        I think you are right about the price going up. Supply and demand of the raw materials is going to set the price. An interesting question is whether a new age of colonialism will start in the rush to control the sources of battery components such as silver, cobalt and lithium.

        • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

          “Now, one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty close to zero.”
          – Bill Gates

          ***
          A “new age” of colonialism, John? When did the last one end?

        • BackRowHeckler August 22, 2023 at 6:08 pm #

          EVs were around from 1895 to about 1920, when they faded. They were always more expensive than gas powered cars. Henry Ford’s Model T, combined with oil strikes in Oklahoma, Texas & California, doomed those early EVs to oblivion.

          (We had one in town here, a Pope Electric made in Hartford. I think it belonged to Teddy Roosevelt and was kept in a barn on Main Street which was the home of TRs sister & is still in the family. I think the car was moved to a museum, tho)

          • Disaffected August 23, 2023 at 9:47 am #

            I can definitely see golf cart style EVs being the new model for personal transportation. Limited range won’t be an issue for those living in 15 minute cities, which will also be the model. In fact, it will be a “feature” used to discourage driving at all. I could even see the EV’s used as shared service vehicles for whole neighborhoods, with requests for service being coordinated and approved online to minimize usage.

    • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

      Yes!

      It is national ambivalence that has enabled the Democratic Party to take 90% of the control positions in the USA.

      Ambivalence, denial, laziness, generational decline, indoctrination are the signs of the time.

      BTW, the PC and the resultant internet is the major cause of the decline of ambition everywhere.

    • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:22 pm #

      it is a criminal terrorist organization

      • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

        Agreed, but it has affected all of DC, the Deep State

        The Mob.

        • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:37 pm #

          I hate the Republican party too tbh

  55. elysianfield August 22, 2023 at 11:48 am #

    Vivek Ramaswamy

    Well, ladies and germs. Just saw Vivek’s hour long interview with Tucker Carlson on the Youtube. My takeaway?

    Impressive. A voice in the wilderness. Speaks the truth to power.

    As does RFK Jr.

    I feel, however, that to REALLY fragment the Trump vote, to capture all the various malcontents that make up a significant share of Trump’s power base, they need to field one more candidate.

    Rand Paul, or perhaps Ross Perot. Yeah…Ross would be perfect, and, being dead, he has an impressive base of dead voters. Perot DID neutralize the conservative vote and throw the election to Clinton.

    He could do it again….

    • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

      Yes, Vivek is their non-White Trump. He is here to replace Trump or derail his reelection.

    • Edge Lord August 22, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

      Yep. Look at all the media attention he is getting and look at the scarcity of scrutiny.

      There are one or two stories about his constant flip-flopping.

      It’s almost as if he was purposefully put here to break up the vote. To provide an outlet and alternative to the candidate they wish to incarcerate.

      He says all the things Trump would say, sort of.

      He has the biggest charlatan, Musk, behind him.

      He can’t explain away his past. His positions. His education. His scholarships.
      So he dangles sparkling trinkets in front of MAGA:

      -end the FBI and ATF!
      -finish the wall!
      -break up Black Rock!

      Rah rah rah … amascamy

      • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

        Remember the Trump years. He came in loaded for bear going to beat down the Deep State.

        They clobbered him.

        Vivek is up against the same thing. His appeal to the “dark” side will not go far as the Wokesters label him an Uncle Tom, an Oreo, a dupe of White supremacy. He will need the MAGA group to go anywhere.

        There is a wavefront of “dark” conservatives that understand what it takes to get ahead in America that the Wokesters are trying to shut down.

        They need to be supported as they face a lot of discord in their drive to expose the evil of the Ult left. They are as MAGA as the palest Caucasian European.

        • Edge Lord August 22, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

          But nobody is labeling him such.
          It’s almost as if the main stream propaganda is giving him a pass.

          Vivek got ahead through a Soros family scholarship to institutions that own the right to credential our leaders (Harvard, Yale), praised by the WEF, and financed pharma business in China. AKA what it takes to get far ahead and on top in America.

          Vivek is not who people want him to be, nor who he, at moments of convenience, purports to be.

          Won’t be fooled again is so very pie in the sky.

          • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

            I understand your caution. His past I’d loaded with WEF support.

            Which is why I wonder what he is up to.

            Other politicians reverse their opinions after exposure to the evil of the Left. Joe Manchin is again bringing up the third party option. I expect Sinema is having second thoughts.

            Tell you what, Vivek is going to face tons of negative press for his “new” position, so let us see how much back pedaling he does. Watch his position on two items, AGW and Covid. His position in respect to globalism will be evident.

    • stelmosfire August 22, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

      Fred Reed is running on a good sounding platform.

    • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

      Allegedly Vivek is running to dislodge DeSantis from the primary race. Some people say he is a MAGA agent. Others say he is a WEF operative in disguise. I mean I have no idea but I think he is an interesting candidate. Though I don’t think he will make it to a point where I could provide him with a vote.

      • Edge Lord August 22, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

        DeSantis is dislodging himself.
        He’s like a Mike Pence that actually did something.
        Milquetoast with bona fides.

        But a man should always know his limits.
        Gitmo torture lawyer and Governor are probably it for Ronny.
        Not too shabby.

        I listened to enough podcasts with Vivek.
        Latest being Ryan’s.
        It’s too creepy how much he already sounds like a tempered and slick career politician.
        It’s rather gross and troubling

        • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

          Yeah I mean he could also get that from being a businessman. It seems like one must be a tempered and slick career politician to be a business person.

          • Edge Lord August 22, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

            2 hours of sanctimony and patting himself on the back for all his successes.

            It’s slick when you’re not good at it.
            Like a used car salesman hooked on Dale Carnegie

  56. JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

    I have reported my experiences after getting the WII, ie Whatever It Is.

    I found a report showing that the virus does invade the middle and inner ear to create tinnitus and vertigo. It also seems to create vertigo associated nystagmus.

    I have had both over the past few months, slowly getting better. First thing in the morning and reclining at night. It was pretty bad for a while.

    Slowly, information from studies is showing that the virus hurts nervous tissue and can cross the blood brain barrier.

    If they ever finally blame the virology crowd, Fauci first, for what Covid has done, and execute them for a zillion murders, I hope they broadcast it around the world.

    NO

    Your denial of the existence of the virus lets these miscreants off the hook. All info points to the fact that they manipulated a virus to make it more virulent and then allowed it to infect the world.

    Remember 1918? The Spanish flu? Could it be that in a time of increasing weaponry of chemical means that someone was messing with creating a super bug, not with genetic manipulation, but with “culturing” the sickest people?

    The progression of disease creation, its escape, its high speed spread and the manipulation of mRNA to create Covid s proteins in less than eight months to create a killer vaxx, point to the intentional nature of the whole thing.

    The idea that this happened with an uncontrolled natural flu virus or a natural event such as pollution does not even make sense. Neither does the idea it is just another cold virus. Why? Because that is what it is, an enhanced coronavirus.

    • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

      Wow! Well-said! You have learned much in a year, John.

    • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 1:59 pm #

      I am unable to say for sure. Part of me believes there is or was a real virus and the other part believes it was mostly a fiction to push people into accepting lockdowns and social credit scores. But either way what I do wonder John is that how can you be sure the tinnitus and vertigo are being caused by the covid virus or the WII? I have read some articles suggesting simian DNA was introduced into the WII and that is creating some of the the severe side effects. It is hard to know exactly what is going on and what is cause and what is effect. I think that is exactly how they want it too. But in the end I am not a source or fount of knowledge. I actually am a peasant.

      • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:13 pm #

        And I was probably also confused by what you meant with WII. I thought you were referring to the jab but it appears that you were referring to the covid virus or “virus”.

        • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

          The Covid virus, or non-virus or flu virus or cold virus, or RSV or pollution or

          Whatever It Is.

          Something has made a lot of people get sick.

          • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

            I am pureblood and got it at the start of April 2023. I was severely sick for the first week and then slowly got better for three more weeks.

            That first week was awful. I had about four steaming hot baths per day as I’d pendulum from fever-hot to goose-pimple cold. Couldn’t eat. Quit coffee. I remember lying in bed feeling so incredibly awful that I thought, “This has to stop! This is unbearable!”

            I, of course, was wrong. I bore it.

            I know for a fact that it is definitely something. Something that I had never felt before in almost six decades here on God’s green earth.

      • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

        SSL

        I never had vertigo a day in my life. Woke up one morning about six months ago and wow, I could hardly navigate to the bathroom. I had to hold onto furniture. The world spins, not e, the sign of vertigo. It does affect my eyesight, it vibrates, it looks like my eyes are lined with fluid. Hard to describe.

        The study I read said that the vertigo starts about 45 days after having the disease. I had WII in November. Like with everything else WII wise, nothing is certain but it sure looks like I am one of the 10 -15% that are affected.

        Remember the loss of smell and taste that is a sign of WII? That is what started me thinking that maybe other nervous tissues might be affected.

        I do not have tinnitus but it was a sign in the article.

        You say you are not a font of knowledge about WII, well congrats and join the crowd. The government has down a bang up job of blocking research into WII as it realizes that its quest for power and control may blow up in its face.

        The good news is that very slowly information is being discovered about WII, maybe the culprits will be identified and punished.

        I will not waste much time waiting.

        • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:47 pm #

          Yeah, my mom has occasional vertigo. She did not get the jab. But I am very familiar with it. I think I have also experienced vertigo a few times. It is something that can certainly happen outside of having any other viruses or ailments so it could honestly just be something like an episode that you had. When I had covid one time certain foods started tasting like chemicals and like toxic perfume. It was a really bizarre experience. There really is no telling what they are exposing us to. They could simply be poisoning the air, food and water. It would not surprise me in the least bit.

        • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 3:11 pm #

          The vaxx also causes tinnitus, John. One of the difficult issues is that the vaxx would obviously cause things that the virus would cause (if it exists – I’m not stating that it does), since the spike protein in the virus would do similar things to the spike in the vaxx. That makes it easy for the PTB to muddy the waters.

          When they do ‘studies’ to show what covid allegedly causes, they never differentiate between the vaxxed and unvaxxed. Even if the vaxxes were 100% safe, you’d expect that differentiation to be made in a research context, since anything else is completely unscientific. I mean, if the vaxxes were genuinely super-duper, such research could well show that it was only the unvaxxed who suffered from tinnitus and whatever else after getting covid.

          • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

            You just showed more sense than 90% of the public.

            The US government is in the business of crushing anything that gets in the way of its agenda and that includes healthcare. Nothing potentially incriminating the vaxx will ever be investigated with government funds. Private investigation of viruses will continue, hopefully without the biological weapons emphasis by the MIC.

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 10:00 pm #

            We had peak cyncism here with a supposed public investigation, in Scotland, into a spike in stillbirths.

            They ruled out covid itself and concluded that there was no explanation.

            They said they didn’t ask the bereaved women if they were vaxxed because it would have been upsetting.

            They really, genuinely said that and got away with it.

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 10:02 pm #

            I suppose I should say ‘official’, rather than ‘public’. I don’t think there was anything public about it.

        • Islander August 22, 2023 at 9:01 pm #

          What in the world is WII?

          • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 9:34 pm #

            Again, WII

            Whatever It Is.

            Just a statement that it matters not what is causing the world wide illness, it is the control by the elite and what they may have done to further that control.

            Stop the semantics, WII.

          • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 9:36 pm #

            Whatever It Is.

    • gustafson.robert.22 August 22, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

      I’m open to the idea that there was no engineered virus, and I’m at least convinced a majority of so-called “covid” cases were actually regular flu and a hundred other things,

      but… an issue. If you took the vaccine, your opinions are all but disqualified for me..

      even if I think you’re a good egg, like I do John AZ.

      If you took the vaccine, your predisposition will be to think it was a real virus, even in the cases where it was nothing but flu.

      • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

        Uh, the flu is a real virus!

        As I said, call it a cold? Well, colds are coronavirus which brings us back to WII being a manipulated cold virus.

        Call it flu, call it a cold, it is a virus that IMHO has been manipulated by global virology and escaped.

        Me, I took the vaxx because at the time counter information was hearsay and I was very high risk, being 73, having CAD and a history of melanoma. I have had inflammatory sequelae since the vaxx. After the lies came out, I will never be touched by an mRNA vaxx again.

        BTW, getting the WII is no picnic either.

        My opinions are all but disqualified for you?

        Boy, do you get the I do not give a shit award!

        • gustafson.robert.22 August 22, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

          Of course I was referring to an engineered covid-19 virus with that “virus.”

        • Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

          Boy, do you get the I do not give a shit award!

          Hahaha!

          • SoftStarLight August 22, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

            well he’s just sharing his opinion

          • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 8:50 pm #

            SSL

            A question

            Do you think that expressing opinions entitles people to insult others?

          • gustafson.robert.22 August 22, 2023 at 9:22 pm #

            John AZ, you’ve never been reliable on covid issues (case in point, you got vaxxed). Post wasn’t an insult, just a check. I’m looking for a little humility/deference/tentativeness on covid matters from ppl who got vaxxed. You (all) got it awfully wrong on take one.

      • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

        “If you took the vaccine, your predisposition will be to think it was a real virus, even in the cases where it was nothing but flu.”

        Total supposition. Why do so many doctors and scientists who didn’t take the ‘vaccine’ consider that there was/is a virus? By your reckoning they’d be much more receptive to believing there was no virus. But, by and large, they don’t. I’ll be happy to get the truth, whatever it turns out to be. Being vaxxed or not has nothing to do with it.

        • gustafson.robert.22 August 22, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

          “Being vaxxed or not has nothing to do with it.”

          It shouldn’t, but it often will. You might be a small-minority exception able to fully reverse course and rethink everything from a truly fresh position, but I dont think JAZ is, or most are.

        • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

          Not sure we will, TBH. There are too many narratives for people to squabble over.

          There is no focused approach on getting to the truth as far as I can tell.

          99.8+ percent survival. Cartoon-like videos out of Wuhan. No test. No isloate. And stats that pretty much everyone now accepts were faked to make the “virus” appear dangerous (and even then, nearly everyone survived it).

          In fact, I am not sure I could assemble a more insane list of indicators for the Big Lie.

        • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 8:01 pm #

          The Vax wasn’t for Covid. Covid was for the Vax.

          Most people weren’t going to get Covid (if it even existed). But everyone was supposed to get the Vax and most did.

          Their lifespans will be reduced with a vast increase in sterility. They were terrified into taking an untested (supposedly!)* drug for a not very dangerous disease.

          *It was tested on people at some point. And the results were horrendous as per the pages of side effects listed.

          • JohnAZ August 22, 2023 at 9:06 pm #

            Covid was for the vaxx.

            You know this might be true, but

            The appearance is that to get the vaxx developed should have taken years

            Unless, the vaxx and the virus enhancement happened at the same time!!!

            Could it be that Fauci and his cadre of virologists were developing a highly communicable coronavirus by messing with the binding protein, the s protein on the virus surface, so that it would attack the ACE2 receptor in areas away from the upper respiratory region. Is it a coincidence that the mRNA generates s proteins, modeled from the newly developed virus. In only six months?

          • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 11:37 pm #

            It was many years in the making apparently – a masterpiece involving some of the best minds in the world.

            As for covid – any old thing would do, or nothing at all.

            Remember, a deadly disease would put them in jeopardy. The trick was to get people to destroy themselves with something internal to their own bodies. Shedding might be real, but minor. There would be no hope at all if it was serious. We’d all be as good as dead, but again, including them unless completely isolated.

  57. Beryl of Oyl August 22, 2023 at 2:53 pm #

    As some of you may be aware, I have been complaining about Bobby Jr.’s apparent lack of concern with what is happening to President trump right now.

    I came across this article by Ben Stein that expresses a lot of what I am thinking, succinctly:

    Prosecutorial Bolshevism

    The victims this time are Trump and his friends. But it could be you next time, and it will be.

    https://spectator.org/prosecutorial-bolshevism/

    This is the last paragraph:

    “But this is exactly what is happening in the USA right now. A dictatorship of prosecutor-bureaucrats has overruled and demolished the usually understood constitutional processes of the nation. It’s not a fantasy. It’s happening right now. The victims this time are Trump and his friends. But it could be you next time, and it will be. “A boot stomping on a human face forever,” as Orwell said. Again, it’s happening now, and it can kill America as we know it.”

    • gustafson.robert.22 August 22, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

      Unfortunately, Trump is turning into a professional victim at this point.

    • Night Owl August 22, 2023 at 3:30 pm #

      If they get this though, there is no turning back.

      This is truly banana-republic-level corruption.

      I don’t see any chance of turning the system around once the dust settles, if they are successful.

      I can’t even laugh at it, because we are truly nearing the end-game phase if this ain’t stopped.

      • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 9:30 pm #

        A little bit of positivity from James Corbett on CBDCs. Lots of pushback, apparently.

        corbettreport.substack.com/p/the-global-uprising-against-cbdcs

        You never win the war, of course, against the ghouls, but the odd battle can be made harder for them. And CBCDs are key, along with digital ID.

        It seems to me from comments on msn articles that the whole EV/ULEZ thing, 15-minute cities and endless climate change articles has got far more people figuring out the agenda and rejecting it than covid or the vaxxes ever did.

        • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 9:33 pm #

          Apparently, in parts of the UK, there are cameras being put up even in tiny residential cul de sacs, so that people can be fined if they so much as move off their drive in a car that’s not ULEZ friendly.

  58. Dr Zonk August 22, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

    Mask Mandates Return: Lionsgate Employees Told To Wear Face Masks

    Lionsgate has told its employees to mask up again as several new COVID-19 variants are spreading in the United States. Workers must remain masked up while working amongst colleagues, and can only be removed for specific tasks such as eating.

    Not to be outdone, an Atlanta college has also insisted on reinstating its mask mandate as students return to school from summer break. Morris Brown College is once again requiring students and employees to wear face masks on campus.

    It looks like we could experience another slow slide into medical tyranny soon unless people are willing to stand up for themselves this time.

    shtfplanDOTcom/headline-news/mask-mandates-return-lionsgate-employees-told-to-wear-face-masks

    • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 3:21 pm #

      I’ve got an unopened box of masks that I will willingly cart around, if necessary, to confront any over-enthusiastic quislings/enforcers, with the statement on the side of the box that says ‘this is not PPE and does not filter respiratory viruses’. I have to admit to not having looked at the text on the box when it arrived in early-ish 2020.

      • Disaffected August 22, 2023 at 4:41 pm #

        I’m surprised they haven’t marketed “WHO and CDC approved” masks yet for an additional premium. Wait for it.

        • Disaffected August 22, 2023 at 4:44 pm #

          And think about it, they could actually impregnate the damn things with Whatever It Is! Wouldn’t that be the shits! Talk about cutting to the chase!

          • GreenAlba August 22, 2023 at 7:28 pm #

            Well, I did read at one point that graphene oxide had been found in/on masks, as it was, apparently on the PCR swabs. There were also nano-structures on some of the swabs able to fix to your tissue and dispense a dose of the vaxx.

            I managed not to have to do a PCR ‘test’ at all, thankfully. I remember Dr Astrid Stuckelberger (former WHO scientist) saying there was no rationale for sticking them up nearly into your brain (she mentioned the significance of the pineal gland) except to do harm, since you could just as well do a saliva test.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 23, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

            They had to go into the base of your skull in search of something they said you could catch by breathing within 6 feet of someone.

            That should have tipped people off.

  59. The Man They Call Zazelle August 22, 2023 at 3:32 pm #

    “That is what I said;

    ‘We can all learn from what God reveals to any one of us.’

    You were making a decent case against churchianity [ denominationalism ] until;

    ‘You seem to betray yourself in this regard upthread with your mention of and concern for rules.’

    Not at all. There are many words translated from ‘law’ which contributes to the confusion, even among Christians.

    When Jesus castigated the Pharisees it was for their practice of building traditions and rules upon their own interpretations of scripture while ignoring plain instructions of the prophets.” ~ messianicdruid August 20, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    ‘Plain instructions of the prophets’ or Jesus’ castigations– as you write– are interpretations, and again, to quote my previous response to you in the previous threads:

    God doesn’t speak to me through an interpreter.

    Nor does he speak to me though the interpretation of an interpreter, nor an interpretation of an interpretation of an interpreter, like in a childhood game of telephone.

    ——

    “The people that ‘follow those bibles/scriptures’ are not ‘Like those priests who go for those underaged boys’…

    You are throwing out the baby with the bathwater.” ~ messianicdruid August 20, 2023 at 10:04 am

    It seems more like a bath is cracked and with biotech wires sticking out from the cracks just waiting to Borg any baby whose parents would throw them in. Your bath-system may be fundamentally corrupt at its core, like the State.

    So it’s not so much that I’m throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but uninterested in and suspicious of the whole bath-system.

    But in any case, I don’t see it as a system for rules for me or others to go by– certainly not mandatory ones.

    BTW, the State– which is a religion according to some– and some religions have at least one other thing in common:

    Pedophilia and child abuse.

    • BackRowHeckler August 22, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

      Anarchists have been known to blow up and burn down Churches, in Milwaukee in 1919, and St. John’s Episcopal Church in DC in 2020. In the Milwaukee church bombing I believe a bunch of people were killed, including children.

      That’s what anarchists have in common with Bolsheviks, who spent the 1920s & 1930s destroying churches & cathedrals in Russia & Ukraine. Initially, anarchists zealously participated in Lenin’s anti-religious crusade, until Lenin turned and crushed the Anarchists themselves. What a surprise!

      • The Man They Call Zazelle August 22, 2023 at 4:40 pm #

        BackRowHeckler, you keep defaulting to apparent ‘anarchist’ bombings as if the State never bombed anyone before, ever, like as if the nuking of Japan (etcetera) never happened. Can we even compare the two?

        Seems it all boils down to personal responsibility and at the basic grassroots, laterally-hierarchical level and I can’t think of a better setup than that kind, can you? If you can, I’m all ears.

        An imposed top-down structure, such as what religions and States operate on doesn’t appear to work nearly as well and even appears to have especially-magnified negative effects when it goes south.

        Of course people do get hurt and some even die though accident and without ill intent, despite fair and reasonable precautions and personal responsibility.

        Unfortunately, it may sometimes be from defending ways-of-life that are being threatened, colonized and/or demolished by top-down structures like some religions and States.

        I don’t see a Stateless place on Earth. Do you?

        See also my qualification at [August 22, 2023 at 4:06 pm] .

        • BackRowHeckler August 22, 2023 at 5:05 pm #

          … defaulting to “apparent” Anarchists bombings-Zaz

          Zaz, that’s what Anarchists are known for. Historically, bombing civilian targets has been Anarchists main plan; it’s been their only plan. Name one other thing that they have done besides besides setting bombs not counting assassinating about a dozen national leaders & politicians between 1870-1920.

          What a legacy!

          I dare say that if an Anarchist organization ever got in control of a national government the first thing they would do is crush other Anarchists, who they would see as troublemakers and Insurrectionists. That’s what the Bolsheviks did in Russia in 1920, and the Stalinists did in Spain in 1937.

          Anarchist to Marxist: “I thought we were buddies?”

          Marxist to Anarchist: “We were never buddies.”

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 22, 2023 at 5:24 pm #

            You keep framing so-called anarchy in the relative blink-of-an-eye period of history that is the State, but that isn’t what anarchy really is.

            Relative anarchy has been around forever.

            You’re an anarchist.

            Or you don’t mind my blowing you up or shooting you if you try to coerce us, such as through taxation and your policing and military and so forth.

            Wake up.

          • Jarek August 22, 2023 at 8:19 pm #

            Just stay off our roads, sovereign citizen. You have no right drive on them.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 22, 2023 at 10:01 pm #

            “The deer isn’t crossing the road, the road is crossing the forest.” ~ unknown

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 22, 2023 at 10:35 pm #

            httpX://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.hIW4253kYjS_6yfCWu-q_wHaKX?pid=ImgDet&rs=1

      • The Man They Call Zazelle August 22, 2023 at 4:55 pm #

        Just to clarify that I might be ok with a religious or State lifestyle, provided they are not impositions on other ways of life, such that they clearly are and have been.

        The State– at least its large-scale manifestation– appears to be declining/collapsing in any case and, if the decline is sufficient, what happens after that will likely be more relatively-anarchistic in nature anyway, by virtue of degrowth and relocalization and real-community rebuilding.

        So we can argue for the State or against it all we want but we are an anarchistic species, fundamentally, anyway. We grew up in relative anarchy– without Church or State (which seem rather similar).

        So we anarchists, such that we all are, fundamentally, will inevitably get our anarchy one way or another. We don’t really have to lift a finger…

        Except maybe to raise a toast to the decline/collapse of the State.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle August 22, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

      …Let’s charitably-qualify the above with, ‘…and some religions seem to have one other thing in common, at least with some apparent pseudo-members…’.

      …Which seems to suggest that some rules aren’t working and don’t guarantee some people will follow them, while they are used as cloaks and/or rationalizations for dubious beha