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I ’m not persuaded that world opinion will ever “make sense” of the Paris attacks. The non-linear rules the day. So-called Fourth Generation Warfare works because there are so many small arms loose in the world and any band of maniacs with a few machine guns and a pound of Semtex plastic explosive can create the equivalent of a war zone in a given locality.

As for the French military, the obvious first move was to bomb the ISIS “stronghold” of Raqqa. But haven’t the US and Russian air forces been doing exactly that for some time now? Either they’ve already bombed the place and everything in it to gravel, or air power is not what it’s cracked up to be — and we have plenty of reason to believe the latter after a decade of selectively pounding jihadists from Afgahnistan to Libya with nothing to show for it except a refugee crisis.

One thing seems assured: hard-line governments are coming soon. Politically, the West had boundary problems that go way beyond the question of national borders to the core psychology of modern liberalism. When is enough of anything enough? And then, what are you really willing to do about it? The answer lately among the Western societies is to do little and do it slowly.

The behavior of college administrators and faculties in the USA these days is emblematic of this cowardly dithering. Intellectual despotism reigns on campus and the university presidents roll over like possums. They don’t have the moral strength to defend free speech as the campus witch-hunts ramp up. The result will be first the intellectual death of their institutions (brain death), and then the actual death of college per se as a plausible route to personal socioeconomic development. The financial racketeering that has infected higher education — the engineering of the gargantuan college loan scam in tandem with the multiplication of “diversity” deanships and tuition inflation — pretty much guarantees an implosion of that system.

The cowardice in the college executive suites is mirrored in our national politics, where no persons of real standing will dare step forward to oppose the juggernaut of Hillary-the-Grifter, or take on the clowning Donald Trump on the grounds of his sheer mental unfittedness to lead a government. In case you haven’t noticed, the center not only isn’t holding, it gave way some time ago. The long emergency is showing signs of morphing into something like civil war. The Maoists on campus apparently want to turn it into race war, too.

So many forces are in motion now and they are all tending toward criticality. The European Union may not survive the reestablishment of boundaries, since it was largely based on the elimination of them. Spain and Portugal are back to breaking down politically again. The Paris bloodbath has discredited Angela Merkel’s plea for “tolerance” — of what is proving to be an intolerable alien invasion. The only political figure on the scene who doesn’t appear to be talking out of his ass is Vlad Putin, who correctly stated at the UN that undermining basic institutions around the world was not a good idea.

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638 Responses to “There Are No Safe Spaces”

  1. Sticks-of-TNT November 16, 2015 at 9:31 am #

    YouTube: “With Open Gates: The forced collective suicide of European nations”
    ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING–THIS VIDEO IS A MUST WATCH!!!
    JUST THIS SINGLE POSTING HAS 2.2 MILLION VIEWS IN 7 DAYS! (And YouTube took it down for a day)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
    “The intro music was muted on this video and all mirrors. The effect has been reduced greatly. I recommend you watch the version with audio here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/11/watch-anti-migrant-video-going-viral-across-europe/

    “Carpenter Brut, French composer of intro music, was notified by small group of Leftists urging him to take down ‘stinky, lying video that puts poor refugees in a bad light”. (Comment by YouTube poster—Death of Nations)

    Of course, Ms wpa_ccc, not all Muslims are terrorists. Nevertheless, as a “religion of peace” as you oft describe it, their recent track record has not been encouraging. Nearly all major acts of terrorism in recent memory have been carried out by Muslims.

    I write “recent” because you have a bad habit of pointing back to the Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, the Imperial British Empire, Jim & Tammy Baker, Game of Thrones, or whatever you can pull from your dusty history books to make your case that Christians have behaved badly, too.

    Perhaps, an effort to keep your “enemies” closer, as the old saying goes, explains why so many of your “friends” are Muslim. (wpa – “I have several hundred Muslim acquaintances.”) (TNT – I don’t have that many paper clips.) See, you just might not be as batshit crazy as some here at CFN have indicated.

    ISLAM’S GREATEST HITS*
    *coming soon to a restaurant near you:

    The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim.
    The Beltway Snipers were Muslims.
    The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim.
    The Underwear Bomber was a Muslim.
    The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims.
    The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims.
    The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims.
    The London Subway Bombers were Muslims.
    The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims.
    The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims.
    The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims.
    The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims.
    The Iranian Embassy Takeover was by Muslims.
    The Beirut U.S. Embassy Bombers were Muslims.
    The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims.
    The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims.
    The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims.
    The Kenyan U.S. Embassy Bombers were Muslims.
    The Saudi Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims.
    The Beirut Marine Barracks Bombers were Muslims.
    The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims.
    The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims.
    The Bombay (Mumbai) Hotel Attackers were Muslims.
    The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims.
    The 9/11 World Trade Center Attackers were Muslims.
    The 9/11 Hijackers and Pentagon Attackers were Muslims.
    The 9/11 Downed United Flight 93 Hijackers were Muslims.
    The Paris Charlie Hebdo Office Attackers were Muslims.
    The Bataclan Concert Hall Bloodbath Attackers were Muslims.
    The Friday the 13th Attackers and Suicide Bombers were Muslims.
    Etc., etc., etc.

    Sticks-of-TNT (my posts on this topic to be continued this week)

    • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 10:02 am #

      Terrorists or freedom fighters?? Maybe if we stopped bombing their countries to steal their oil we wouldn’t have the fighting back the only way they can??
      In reality, most every publicized attack (false flag) has been enabled or orchestrated by the victim country to enable more Orwellian controls over their own people.

      • DA November 16, 2015 at 10:18 am #

        Someone gets it.

        • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 10:47 am #

          Yes. They do.

        • rudyspeaks November 16, 2015 at 4:39 pm #

          The tip-off in “TNT’s post was his reference to “Breitbart.com”. No one with an IQ above room temperature would cite a known (although “late”) alcoholic liar as a source. Name one “Breitbeart revelation” that was NOT a lie. C’mon, cat got yer tongue? And his list of cherry-picked Muslim atrocities is a rehash of the bigotry and shallowness that infects “internet libertarians”. They love to cite a :fact” that indicates they have no knowledge or appreciation of context. (Wanna know who commits virtually all the petty crime in N.Y.? The Irish…in the mid-1880’s! Obviously criminal genes, huh?) Anyone could concoct list of similar or worse Western atrocities and attribute them to capitalism, democracy, or whatever you find strange, new, and scary…in fact, isn’t that what the organizers of the Paris massacre did?

          • vengeur November 16, 2015 at 5:45 pm #

            Ok. We’ll just get our news from MSNBC. Problem solved. And we’ll just keep pretending Islam is a religion of peace. Now go get your f*cking shine box.

          • Sticks-of-TNT November 19, 2015 at 6:55 am #

            Rudy,

            Actually if you re-read the beginning of my post, you’ll notice there are two links to the YouTube video. Apparently, there were copyright issues with the background music used by the creator of the video and he was forced to remove the music. So the creator directed viewers to the second link where they could still view his video with the music intact. Neither he nor I even cared that it happened to be Breitbart. For the record, although I may have read a couple of articles there linked from other sites (such as from posters here at CFN) just as with Huffington, I don’t think I’ve ever even gone to Breitbart on my own. I just have no interest. It’s probably too late in the week for you to even see this response. I just wanted to correct the record. Be well.

            Sticks-of-TNT

      • Walter B November 16, 2015 at 10:24 am #

        Freedom fighters, really? When King George oppressed the colonists, they did not sail to England and blow up a crowd of British citizens, now did they? The North Vietnamese did not respond to the US attempt to install a new colonial master by travelling to Times Square and setting off bombs did they? These violent losers are nothing more than stooges for their masters and cowards to boot.

        If these Precambrian Primitives were actual Freedom Fighters, they would be targeting US Senators, Congressmen or Administration officials – the ones that are perpetrating these aggressions. The civilian population of any given nation only care to go about their own tiny lives and while we do supply the aggressors with enough of our sons and daughters to do the dirty work, the real gad guys still remain the gazillionaires at the top!

        • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 10:30 am #

          The fact that the terrorists are not targeting our politicians, rich folks, and banker criminals is more proof that these atrocities are not being committed by the poor people we are bombing, but by our countries trying to sell illegal and immoral wars to us.

          • Walter B November 16, 2015 at 11:52 am #

            True enough and if you ask me, I’d bet that the violent ones are working for Markel, Barry, Hillary, Kerry and all the rest of the criminal scum at the top. Create a universal bad guy and the simpletons will forget how bad the masters are really screwing them and even learn to beg for more. Dr. Goebbels would be proud!

        • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:41 am #

          But the North Vietnamese would have if they could have.

          ISIS being more sophisticated than the North Vietnamese only had to rely on their extensive cache of ammunition and explosives squirrelled away in Paris safe houses by their extensive network of foreign agents. Since they built up intelligence forces on par with Britain France and the United States over the past several years it was easy peasy for them to pick up the phone and give the order.

          An order that gains them nothing.

          • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:43 am #

            That center paragraph is sarcastic don’t you know.

        • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 10:52 am #

          Be cool. They will be. Just coming out of the 14th century. Give them some time. They will learn what to hit to get the most bang for the buck. Since we are fighting wars on credit we just waste HUGE amounts of money because–hey it just on the national credit card. These folks do not have that type of leverage. But, they will start to hurt Western Civ. for real. Flocks of Black Swans are on the way from the middle east.

          • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 10:57 am #

            The money spent on wars is not wasted. Most of it goes straight in the pockets of the oligarchs who orchestrate the wars. The oligarchs are keeping the exotic car, yacht, and mansion markets thriving.

          • Walter B November 16, 2015 at 11:30 am #

            Bobibboise is right, the money is not “wasted” it goes directly to the top to those who follow the legacy of Krupp. President Eisenhower warned us, President Kennedy listened, and when he moved to stop it, the country was taught a bloody lesson on national TV. None since then would dare stand against them and we have had constant war for profit ever since. Arm both side they say is the most profitable venture. It cannot and will not be stopped unless the prophecies of Armageddon actually are fulfilled. Otherwise it will be a Long Decay which goes well with a Long Emergency doesn’t it?

          • seawolf77 November 16, 2015 at 2:24 pm #

            The Beast of the Apocalypse is the military industrial complex. This has all been orchestrated. You see it’s all about creating the right climate, which is why Climate Change is such murderous irony. JFK created the right climate ala “If they can kill the president…” Apollo 11 created the right climate in that anything the defense companies said they could do we believed them. Star Wars… no problem. Shoot down a missile with a laser…piece of cake. 9/11 created the perfect climate for the police state. After all it justifies torture. If there was a nuclear attack imminent and you had the guy who knew the plans, how could you not torture him?

      • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:33 am #

        Yes a plan is carried out with multiple attacks with a coordination that could be called ‘military precision‘ yet multiple passports are found indicating the nationality of the perpetrators. The planning that was done to orchestrate these attacks with such precision would not have left passports behind unless that was part of the plan.

        And what do they make passports out of anyway that they can survive bomb blasts. Seven of the eight attackers blew themselves to pink mist yet their passports survived. Is passport paper some kind of indestructible spin-off from our defunct space program or what?

        I hope that no seventeen year old kids were suckered into screaming Allahu akbar! If they were better they went the way of pink mist because they would have been sentenced to death anyway regardless of their impressionable age. Its just too bad they took others out with them.

        • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 10:59 am #

          The Syrian passport has already been admitted to be a forgery by France and the USA, but hey, we got bombs to toss, yeehaawww.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 16, 2015 at 12:04 pm #

          I was wondering about that. They knew who it was because a passport was found “near” the body.
          O/T, at Fresh Kills Meadows, those sifting the debris from the Twin Towers didn’t find much in the way of body parts, but they did find lots of plastic, as in credit and debit cards. That has the makings of an epic poem something along the lines of In Flanders Fields.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 2:39 pm #

        Yes, that is why the Muslims conquered half the known world within a hundred years after Mohammad’s death: because we were going to steal their oil. They didn’t even know they had oil until we told them about it btw.

        Someone doesn’t get it.

      • pintada November 16, 2015 at 6:02 pm #

        Yup, exactly right. If we had not provided tons – billions of dollars worth – of arms directly and indirectly to ISIS, it would not exist.

        bobinboiseid gets it.

      • pentrus November 16, 2015 at 8:34 pm #

        Many of the terror attacks are on other Muslims. I don’t think that is about us stealing their oil. Nor do i think the Islamic criminal attacks in Africa is all about oil. Or the ones in Indonesia. Or in many places around the world. Muslims are closing in on committing nearly 100% of the terrorist attacks in the world. It seems to be a pathology associated with that religion.

        Further, those that believe we can somehow solve the problem by vacating our presence in the Middle East and simply walk away from the oil are fooling themselves. It is not possible for that to happen, not now, and not in a century due to our reliance on liquid hydrocarbons to underpin our western economies. We are an empire built on access to those energy resources and folks who rant about taking their oil would not like the consequences of just walking away.

        As tight as oil supplies are (the glut we see now is temporary and probably damaging to oil companies, and hence, future supplies), the Middle East will continue to be a major player in supplying energy resources for the indefinite future. Nothing will replace it; not solar, not wind, not nuclear, not shale, nothing. We westerners profit greatly from this access to cheap energy afforded by the empire of which we are a part and we will not give up our empire easily So we will continue to do what it takes to keep our access to oil supplies around the world and will only cease doing so when either the oil industry collapses or the western empire fails.

        Even though Islamic terrorism is rampant throughout many parts of the world, there is one nation (at least according the article whose URL I will post below) that has no terror issues, at least with respect to Islam. That country is Japan, which controls its borders by not allowing many Muslims in. You can read about it here: http://chersonandmolschky.com/2015/04/13/islamic-terrorism-japan/

        • Bob November 17, 2015 at 9:54 pm #

          Japan also has a strong religious culture (or used to); one that works well as a foil for Islam. Buddhism and Shinto both revere life and community. Yes, there is personal sacrifice, but it should be in the spirit of egoless service to life, not bloody glory in death.

    • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:21 am #

      You forgot the Beirut attack the day before the Paris attacks. Was that because only a third as many people were killed or is it because it does not fit your agenda?

      • wolfbay November 16, 2015 at 12:14 pm #

        Those Lebanon bombings were the result of Hezzbollah invading Syria and Iraq. This is what happens in war. Civilian casualties are a given including the war lite the U.S. wages with their so called precision attacks.
        Why we are supporting Hezzbollah and Iran in their fight against the Sunnis in Syria and Iraq is beyond my comprehension.
        We will never win the hearts and minds of the people. unfortunately in war to win you have to be brutal. We should stay out of Syria and Iraq and let Iran Hezzbollah ,ISIS and other Sunni groups sort it out. We should stay out of war if we possibly can but if ISIS emerged with a Calphate and became a grave threat to us then the president should follow the law and ask congress for a declaration of war. If this sad situation came about the war would not last 14 months let alone 14 years.

    • simon.dc3 November 16, 2015 at 12:50 pm #

      @Sticks, IF you really mean to understand, it behooves you to fine tune your “Muslim” category.
      Else you risk becoming a sycophant to MSM. And maybe a bit unhinged may I add?

      For instance, you list 30 terror attacks going back more than 40yrs.
      70% of those were by Sunni Muslims or Sunni-sympathizing American morons, of the institutionally-marginalized kind that find Islam in Americans jails or in American ghettos.

      That brand of Sunni Islam that is the playpen to Wahhabi Imams. Wahhabi Imams being the only kind funded in KSA mosques by the House of Saud.

      The House of Saud (that great American ally) that’s carried out more beheadings for non-violent crimes –and of Christians for apostasy, witchcraft, etc– in the first half of 2015 than all beheadings carried out by their spawn –and the CIA’s spawn– ISIS in all of 2014.

      See? Just 3 little paragraphs in and your categorizing is made quite meaningless.

      Unless of course, your aim is not to understand, but to be the type of sycophant that keeps us funding/training the same kind of parasites that perpetrated 9/11 along with 70% of those attacks you list, because some sociopaths with access to our puppets in govt, picturing themselves as Grey Eminence, believe they can control the parasites. Because it worked so great in the past [NOT].

    • dweebus November 16, 2015 at 3:36 pm #

      You make a fair point. I would submit, however, that whilst the majority of terrorists are Muslim, the majority of Muslims are not terrorists.

      Having said that, I think the mid 90s provides a break point. Prior to that, the main drivers were political. Post Iraq I, they may be Wahhabist, an insane desire to drive the crusader from MENA and establish a caliphate, and yes from Al Qaeda to the Taliban to ISIS, Saudi Arabia is complicit.

    • Dave in Pasadena November 16, 2015 at 6:19 pm #

      How did the Bush Administration kick off the Iraq war in 2003? President Bush and his “vice,” Cheney, decided to “Shock and Awe” the Iraq people through the use of violence, dropping bombs and launching hundreds of cruise missiles on downtown Baghdad.
      Mister Webster declares that terrorism is the use of force or threats to demoralize, intimidate, and subjugate, especially such use as a political weapon or policy. To terrorize is to fill with terror, to coerce, make submit by filling with terror as by the use or threat of violence. By the very choice of the words “shock and awe” to describe the start of their misadventure, Bush and Cheney betrayed the real purpose of their enterprise — to terrorize another country that had nothing to do with 9-11. Perhaps if Uncle Sam stopped terrorizing the people of the Middle East, they might be persuaded to stop terrorizing others. Muslims are not the only terrorists. American “Christians” are doing a fine job of terrorizing.

      • Ulpian November 18, 2015 at 11:38 am #

        Perfectly put. But don’t forget that Blair was as much to blame, and they made him a Middle East peace envoy afterwards. You couldn’t make it up.

        I’ve heard both American and British apologists for the Shock and Awe cruelty state that the war was regrettable (my word) but unfortunately the result of poor intelligence. The truth, known to all but possibly forgotten by some, is that the intelligence advisors were asking the US to stand down until the very last second, since no weapons of mass destruction – whatever that means – had been discovered.

        However, nothing the west has done justifies the barbarity of ISIS and the rest. These are cruel people intent of living out a Mad Max fantasy and using religion to justify it. The brainwashing that constitutes religious faith, all of it, can be used to justify anything of course. And our terrorist leaders pay lip service to religion as well, making them almost as bad as their evil children in the Middle East.

    • wpa_ccc November 16, 2015 at 9:10 pm #

      Since 9/11, Muslim-American terrorism has claimed 37 lives in the United States, out of more than 190,000 murders by non-Muslims during this period.

      The majority are murders by Christians. There is a positive correlation between Christians who attend church and murder rate. The state with the highest church attendance is Louisiana and Louisiana has twice the U.S. average murder rate. The whole U.S. Bible Belt has a significantly higher than U.S. average murder rate.

      It makes sense when you examine what is reversely related to church attendance: 1) educational level; 2) economic status; 3) social tolerance (acceptance of people that are “different”); 4) liberal viewpoints. You are in much more danger from Christians than Muslims in the United States.

    • the camels bell November 16, 2015 at 10:39 pm #

      monsieur dynamite,

      hatred elevates the object, frightens & exhausts the mind, making object a negative idol

      spreading hatred is so others can share in same punishment

      later, discover you were wrong

      • bobinboiseid November 21, 2015 at 12:10 pm #

        The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

        H. L. Mencken

    • MikefromNY November 17, 2015 at 12:09 pm #

      @Sticks-of-TNT, just for historical context, if another country was flying over the US and dropping bombs everyday and “Shocking and Awing” us every day, would you think that was a terrorist act? Does the fact that we can spin up any number of false and misleading evidences to justify our actions, make them any less terrorizing to a civilian population in the country or countries we are trying to control or exert our influence on. History may be inconvenient to your argument, but it’s probably because you don’t live in one of the countries/cities being bombed or invaded. From the point of view of those populations these actions are entirely justified in the face of what they have experienced. Every son, brother, father has lost countless numbers of relatives, friends and loved ones to these actions. All of these men and some women have been pushed to take these actions by our policies and desperation of their positions. Tell me you wouldn’t do the same in if you were in a similar position.

      http://www.psr.org/assets/pdfs/body-count.pdf

    • MikefromNY November 17, 2015 at 12:09 pm #

      @Sticks-of-TNT, just for historical context, if another country was flying over the US and dropping bombs everyday and “Shocking and Awing” us every day, would you think that was a terrorist act? Does the fact that we can spin up any number of false and misleading evidences to justify our actions, make them any less terrorizing to a civilian population in the country or countries we are trying to control or exert our influence on. History may be inconvenient to your argument, but it’s probably because you don’t live in one of the countries/cities being bombed or invaded. From the point of view of those populations these actions are entirely justified in the face of what they have experienced. Every son, brother, father has lost countless numbers of relatives, friends and loved ones to these actions. All of these men and some women have been pushed to take these actions by our policies and desperation of their positions. Tell me you wouldn’t do the same if you were in a similar position.

      http://www.psr.org/assets/pdfs/body-count.pdf

  2. lsjogren November 16, 2015 at 9:41 am #

    Good essay, although I don’t agree with Kunstler on Trump. Yes he flies off the handle, but unlike most politicians I do believe he still has some instinct of self-preservation for his country. As someone who is not willing to commit suicide just so some leftist goon won’t call me a racist, I find that appealing.

    • Neon Vincent November 16, 2015 at 9:57 am #

      I don’t agree with Kunstler about Trump, either, but for different reasons. Here’s the relevant passage.

      “The cowardice in the college executive suites is mirrored in our national politics, where no persons of real standing will dare step forward to oppose the juggernaut of Hillery-the-Grifter, or take on the clowning Donald Trump on the grounds of his sheer mental unfittedness to lead a government.”

      There are plenty of people with stature in the Republican Party trying to dislodge Trump and Carson from the top two spots. Off the top of my head, I count four current senators, three current governors, a former senator, and four former governors, along with a former CEO of a Fortune 500 corporation, all trying to beat that “immigrant-bashing carnival barker” and his competitor Doctor Pyramid. They’re just not succeeding at it. Right now, the smart money is on Rubio, as PredictWise’s aggregate of betting markets gives him a 47% chance of winning the nomination. Trump may be in second, but he’s well behind at 19%. Then comes Cruz at 13% and Bush at 10%. The rest of the field, including Carson, is in single digits. Let’s see if the people putting their money where their mouths are end up being right or losing their shirts.

      On the the other hand, he’s right about what’s happening on the Democratic side, as FiveThirtyEight announced last week that Hillary Clinton Is The Most Establishment-Approved Candidate On Record. She has more “endorsement points” than any presidential candidate since 1980. That’s on top of the Associated Press reporting that she already has the support of a majority of Democratic superdelegates, which means that all the Democratic governors, senators, representatives, and party chairs are planning on nominating her. Since superdelegates constitute 15% of all delegates, that means that Clinton already has 15% of the delegates she needs to be nominated before a single primary or caucus (trust me, the math works out). Opposition to Clinton will have to come from the Republicans; she has the Democratic Party locked up.

      • Neon Vincent November 16, 2015 at 10:29 am #

        As for our host’s main topic, I’m with the French soccer fans singing their defiance in the face of terror. Anyone else for a chorus of “La Marseillaise”? It would be more useful than dreaming about sending James Bond after the Sith Jihad of the Islamic State. After all, 007 is fictional and it’s Al Qaeda that’s the equivalent of SPECTRE, not ISIS.

      • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 10:55 am #

        Maybe. But a few of us on the FAR Left want to out her as the Corp. Whore she wants to be in the WH. Just like her husband.

      • chipshot November 16, 2015 at 11:27 am #

        “she has the Democratic Party locked up.”

        Really, really hope that is incorrect.

        Big discrepancy between msm phone polls and
        various online polls. Numerous online polls re who
        won the 2nd debate show Bernie the overwhelming winner
        (80%+ with thousands of votes cast).

        Think (and hope) pundits are underestimating the power
        of the internet and how a high turnout of the 18-30 demographic
        can affect this election.

        Having money and name recognition no longer guarantee a nomination.

        • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:47 am #

          But working the insides of the DNC will. I am for Bernie. Just because when the SHTF I think he will make a better call. But, I think the game is rigged. The Web traffic is greater for Bernie than all the rest combined. DNC & RNC. But lame stream media and the DNC will try and lock him out. They fear him more than ISIL. (ISIS)

          • Beryl of Oyl November 16, 2015 at 12:11 pm #

            I think a lot of Bernie supporters don’t understand about being registered to vote in a primary versus a general election. That’s a big problem.

        • abbybwood November 16, 2015 at 7:48 pm #

          According to this post, the majority of various on-line polls voted for Bernie Sanders:

          http://bud-meyers.blogspot.com/2015/11/all-online-polls-bernie-sanders-wins.html

          Some might say, “Well, Sanders could just have his people organized to jump on those polls and make it seem skewed toward him”. Yes, and with Hillary Clinton’s machine one would think she and her “organizers” would try to do the same and because she is the VAST choice in regular polling, that the numbers would generally match, right??

  3. George November 16, 2015 at 9:42 am #

    “The West itself, including America, is a circus of soft targets. The softest ones are between our ears.”

    Reminds me of those Weapons of Mass Destruction that Saddam was alleged to have. In that case they turned out to be what was between their eras.

    As was the case at the time of the “Revolution”, the 1% is shaking in their boots. Then, surrounded by scores of penniless indentured servants and slaves they suddenly felt quite vulnerable. So, after the Crown increased tariffs to offset the cost of sending over a few brigades of Redcoats to turn the tide of the French and Indian War, it was easy divert attention (that time). After the Shay’s Rebellion they were obliged to do that again, this time to seditiously write a constitution which, despite all the Enlightenment “Gobbledygook” contained therein, was then and to this day remains the means by which those who own the realm shall rule the realm.

    Question the media theme du jour before you give yourself to misplaced patriotism. After decades of off-shoring middle-class jobs to China and looking at the world through a glorified Excel spreadsheet it never occurred to them that they’d be surrounded by multitudes of angry disenfranchised mobs. Now they find themselves in a pickle and are obliged to frantically reach for straws and since their narrative must be fictional they’re desperate.

    Do this one thing: Question ALL the answers including mine and Jim’s (it’s a Badger tradition to be proud of).

    http://www.thesisa.org

    • ozone November 16, 2015 at 10:08 am #

      George,
      You make some good points here. To go a little further, in order for the status quo to be maintained (although at this point that is characterized by warring camps of cannibals, as JHK points out), distraction and destabilization needs to constantly occur in order to divert attention from the grinding collapse of damn-near everything. And so, it’s my opinion this is all quite deliberate.

      Reading between the lines of all the declarations of ‘truth’ and ‘fact’ by whichever leanings they might pander to reveals some small bits of the ugly realities that are going to crush the current state of bloated hubris. …And yes, that probably means bloody civil war*s* in the mix. Be as ready/prepared as you can; and, in the first instance, that would be, psychologically.

    • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 10:56 am #

      Good post George.

  4. Rodster November 16, 2015 at 9:43 am #

    Modern global society is becoming undone and the one thing that made it all possible is oil which is now becoming threatened.

    Hitlery will be the next POTUS. The jig is in for her. I knew it when nobody on Crapitol Hill had the balls to throw her ass in jail for being an accomplice in Benghazi.

    • Smoky Joe November 16, 2015 at 10:53 am #

      Not when they lacked the balls to convict Cheney and Rumsfeld for massaging lies, then using them to manipulate Bush, a war-crime that led to 4,500 Americans and countless Iraqis dying.

      Whatever Clinton’s fault in the matter, my disgust is boundless when someone mentions Benghazi without mentioning the 1000x worse catastrophe that we could have avoided.

      • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 10:59 am #

        Smoky Joe I is with you. Benghazi was a waste of some good people-shit happens in hostile lands. Hang the mistake around the funding from Congress and 400 + years of Colonial mistakes.

      • Rodster November 16, 2015 at 1:24 pm #

        Just another reason why I checked out of the political system decades ago. There are crooks and criminals making up the vast majority of Washington DC on both sides. I never bought into the George W Bush WMD and all the BS wars they started.

        But that sure as hell doesn’t excuse Hitlery. Regardless she’ll be the next POS POTUS. She’ll fit right in with the last 8-10 criminals occupying the White House.

        • MikefromNY November 20, 2015 at 8:02 pm #

          Doesn’t sound like you’ve checked out of it to me. Inditing Mrs, Clinton after the events in Benghazi, yet the republicans who are complicit in all the misadventures which have cost us uncountable treasure and lives in the thousands, get off scott free. All that,for what? Are we or the people of the middle east any better off? No, the only people who are better off, are the top level contractors and service companies who profited from all those actions and wasted efforts. If you’ve checked out of the political system, then don’t make uninformed comments about it,

      • baird November 16, 2015 at 8:35 pm #

        If you need to be reminded where all of this originated here’s the camel in the room.

        http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/video_former_cia_agent_john_kiriakou_saudi_arabia_islamic_state_20151116

        But that’s right we’ve known for 60+ yrs, guess that’s why we don’t score so well in history or anything else for that matter.

  5. swmnguy November 16, 2015 at 9:44 am #

    We have a finance system that doesn’t work. That’s really all that needs to be said.

    Short story longer, a system that uses debt at interest as money has to expand, always and forever. That can’t happen on a finite planet. So that system eats itself. It takes over everything and consumes it. That’s why we see education, religion and culture becoming commodities; cheapened, degraded, bickered over, and eventually destroyed.

    All the rest is just a bunch of purposeful distraction from the real dilemma.

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    • seawolf77 November 16, 2015 at 9:49 am #

      A finance system that is absolutely insane, except for the utterly sociopathic.

    • shotho November 16, 2015 at 10:41 am #

      That is very well said, even though there are other reasons as well for the deconstruction of our basic institutions. So, what will happen as our financial system increasingly founders on its bad debt?

    • B9K9 November 16, 2015 at 11:51 am #

      Since it’s obvious to those who understand what is occurring, why not take financial advantage by trading on that knowledge & information?

      At the very top level, the name of the game is command & control. There are a couple of component parts to this aspect.

      First, the debt-money system needs the underlying the economy to constantly grow, and industrial civilization requires fossil fuels to provide that energy for expansion.

      Second, indigenous populations must be kept in a constant state of deprivation & want. Orwell pointed this out back in the late 20s; Mailer amplified that objective in the guise of Cummings in the “Naked & Dead”. If the citizenry become too demanding, simply replace them with more malleable substitutes.

      So, once we’ve organized the key macro elements, it’s fairly trivial to simplify the outline process by making a few key observations:

      1. energy requirement drivers
      2. supply conflicts (Keynesian two-fer for MIC expenditures)
      3. population control & substitution

      The looping, feedback mechanism is to utilize the victims of the colonial wars as population markers, ensuring both domestic conflict and the imperative for further foreign policy interventions.

      The last question is to how to benefit ie how to use this knowledge in lieu of having a “job”. Now that we have a road-map, one must decide how to play the lie. Alex Jones takes the advertising/subscription publicity angle, while our host has seemingly decided to focus on “the PTB don’t know what they’re doing”. This is actually a perfect fit for his writing skills, as he can both entertain & inform with weekly criticism to drive further book sales.

      But I think there’s an alternative that doesn’t require having a public face – and perhaps incurring the ire of some offended agency – by simply staying quiet and trading the expected outcomes. I mean, let’s be honest here: there aren’t any variations to the game. The techniques are literally timeless – use that pattern recognition to your advantage.

  6. seawolf77 November 16, 2015 at 9:44 am #

    The oil targets in Saudi Arabia are just the tip of the iceberg. Oil targets are in every country and every ocean and sea in the world. It is obvious that is not the strategy being employed here. So what to surmise from that…proof of false flag? I believe we are attacking their oil assets, and yet our oil assets remain unmolested. Interesting.

  7. bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 9:51 am #

    Paris was a false flag just like 9/11 and nearly all of the school shootings, as well as Charlie Hebdo. The Syrian passport that was the proof leading to more bombing of Syria has already been admitted a forgery by France and th US. One hour after the attacks the perps were known without a doubt. How convenient, and what a total fraud. Here we go again, prepare to lose more civil liberties as the politicians rush through emergency legislation at breakneck speed.

    • malthuss November 16, 2015 at 10:00 am #

      Last night I watched a You Tube about ‘9 11’ and it made me think it was an inside job.
      Then I watched an Alex Jones one [interviewed the Black man who ‘heard the blasts’].

      Now, family sold Paris ISIS massacre theater on 9/11/15- David Acton at You Tube.

      • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 10:09 am #

        It only takes minimal investigation to realize beyond any doubt that 9/11 was perpetrated by the USA to rally the world behind attacking Iraq and Afghanistan.
        Operation NORTHWOODS was a very similar plan that was recently declassified. Governments do this sort of thing all the time and the corporate media brainwashes everyone into believing.

      • Buck Stud November 16, 2015 at 10:20 am #

        Ah yes, what would a tragedy be if not for Alex Jones in the conspiratorial aftermath.

        I watched his video on the Paris attacks and I saw an incredulous Alex Jones go hysterically on and on about the date: Friday the 13th –GASP!

        He incessantly reminded his audience that he has been predicting events such as Paris for years now.

        He’s such a smart guy.

        • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 10:41 am #

          In a time of universal deceit, conspiracy theories are all we have. If Jesus Christ himself were the one leading the charge to expose conspiracy theories, he would be attacked from every quarter.

        • ozone November 16, 2015 at 11:00 am #

          To counter your cavalier and charming dismissal, here is a listing that you may (or may not) find amusing:

          http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43407.htm

          Confession is good …. for what again? (Maybe good for polishing reputational turds for the historical record before shuffling off the ol’ mortal coil.)

          ***And, yes, somebody is screwing with this site and the comments section. It’s scrolling all over the place on its very own.***

          • Sean Coleman November 18, 2015 at 3:34 pm #

            Interesting link, but false flag operations are probably a small enough proportion of the whole. I’d have more confidence in the author or authors if he hadn’t said that the Jews were fleeing the Holocaust in 1946 and 1947. And who is Adolph Hitler? The name rings a bell.

          • ozone November 18, 2015 at 7:13 pm #

            SC,
            “Interesting”, but not definitive, I guess. Hold tightly to that thought… I hope you have a comforting prayer and a little amulet that wards off evil as well.

    • James Howard Kunstler November 16, 2015 at 11:01 am #

      Bobinboise — I don’t subscribe to this “false flag” bullshit. I have to assume that you are a crazy person and sooner or later, if you keep it up, I’m going to have to kick you out of the discussion. — JHK

      • Pogo November 16, 2015 at 12:08 pm #

        Thank you, Jim, for saying this. I too am amazed and dismayed by the constant and automatic response to every tragic event as a “false flag”.

        I cannot imagine how one’s thinking becomes so distorted as to believe that Sandy Hook (to use one example) did not really happen and that the parents were trained actors and the children were spirited off to a new life in the tropics.

        • vengeur November 16, 2015 at 1:24 pm #

          Yes! Thank You Mr. Kunstler!!!!!!!

      • seawolf77 November 16, 2015 at 1:18 pm #

        History tells us that the USS Maine was likely a false flag event. So was the Reichstag Fire. So was the Great Fire of Rome. The Gulf of Tonkin was admitted to have been a fraud by former Secretary of Defense. The country believes in the Manson Murders as the government reported them and they were allegedly a false flag event i.e. the Manson Family killing innocent white people and painting racial slurs on the wall to point the finger of blame at blacks. The movie “The Princess Bride” has a false flag event in it implying even a child can understand the concept. Does anyone really believe Helen of Troy was kidnapped by the Trojans, which is where the “The Princess Bride” probably came from? Most wars are started with false flag events because it places the blame for the aggression on the other party thus absolving guilt and providing a reason for retaliation.

        • malthuss November 16, 2015 at 1:33 pm #

          Seawolf, what do you make of ‘9 11’ and the various financial ties to the tragedy?

          • seawolf77 November 16, 2015 at 1:52 pm #

            I see the physical representation of the lies although I will admit the occult connections. Look at Dealey Plaza. It is a trident. Look at the lower floor of WTC. It is a series of tridents holding up the whole building. And what is the building… a big gigantic # 11 as in Apollo 11. And it is built where…Manhattan ala the Manhattan Project. So what do I make of 9/11. I think it implies that all the lies will soon come tumbling down. War is crime by other means. A false flag event is the criminal equivalent to “Stick em up!”

          • abbybwood November 16, 2015 at 8:49 pm #

            You mean financial ties like these?:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wxSScDm5ew

        • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 2:31 pm #

          …and my father was in Pear Harbor when the Japanese did their sneak attack.
          The only problem is that none of it happened the way .gov says it happened. We knew days in advance and nearly all the ships left in the shooting gallery were due to be mothballed. I could go on at length about what really happened, but feel I am on thin ice with our host.

          • seawolf77 November 16, 2015 at 2:49 pm #

            Anytime you look into any of these events it is not anything like you thought it would be. Titanic is a perfect example. “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”
            A damn CIA agent wrote the book “A Night to Remember,” 40 years after the event. But even a cursory look at the evidence and you find it was probably not even the Titanic that sank, but her sister ship Olympic which had been irreparably damaged in a collision with a warship. Seismic analysis cannot find the infamous 300 foot gash. Doesn’t exist. Only 6 people saw the iceberg, 2 of which were crew. The whole story is riddled with inconsistencies. The crew was sworn to secrecy.The commission that investigated it was as bad as any to date. Look at the USS Indianapolis. It supposedly delivers the atomic bomb, and then is sent to sail the lonely waters. They tried to kill everyone on that ship. What did they see?

          • Florida Power November 16, 2015 at 5:38 pm #

            According to a website host who shall remain unnamed… His father was part of a team that installed fake radar and other deceptions on the Arizona to make it an attractive target knowing that they were being spied upon by the Japanese. The Japanese spies relayed their messages home using baseball jargon (Cubs 3, Yankees 2, etc) monitored by the Americans.

            Of course it was coincidence… pure luck… that all the carriers were at sea, and that WW1-vintage battleships were anchored at port.

            The website host, by the way, was OK with the false flag since that was the only way to overcome the deep isolationism prevalent at the time and War was not only inevitable, but just.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 2:49 pm #

          Yes, the Lusitania was loaded to the gills with munitions – exactly as the Germans had claimed. Survivors said as much and recent dives confirmed it. The German Government took out ads in American papers warning people not to take that cruise. The ads weren’t run and American travelers were sent into waters controlled by German subs – a sacrifice to start WW1.

          False flags and Conspiracies are as old as Civilization – if not Mankind.

      • pentrus November 16, 2015 at 9:42 pm #

        Please do it, Mr. Kunstler. I often see this on the comments. What bothers me is that conjecture and coincidence is presented as evidence in many of these conspiracy claims. I think conspiracies do exist (Watergate, Iran-Contra, the Dreyfus Affair) but at least someone uncovered some evidence to back up the claims.

      • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:40 pm #

        And why is it bullshit James. You wrote 624 words in your essay this week. Can we have as many next week explaining why,

        ‘False flag’ is bullshit?

        Please do explain how we do not have a secret government, a deep state, that spies on us and fucks with us should the need arise and should they be able to get by with it. Explain that there are not right now people in the pay of the Department of Homeland Security running honey traps so as to locate potential domestic terrorists. Explain the checks in place, the oversight; so that none of this happens and the rights of Americans are protected.

        Do explain how the U.S. government has not sponsored countless covert regime changes in the past century and how the FBI never entraps people by convincing them to buy phoney explosives. Explain how it is that the U.S. government never indulges in propaganda so as to influence public opinion.

        False flag actually covers a lot of territory. If you claim we don’t have special forces impersonating Muslims I’ll agree with you. That is not how it works and would be a recipe for disaster. If you claim money, weapons, training and intelligence has never been supplied to existing terrorist organizations in ways contrary to the laws of this land in order to accomplish goals consistent with American foreign or domestic policy you are full of it.

        But you are a master of the mighty word so put up. Don’t just say “I have to assume that you are a crazy person”. We like what you write here but I have to tell you. Sometimes the edges of your reality are a bit frayed.

        You often write that the behaviour of our elected officials betrays the trust of the American people. Apparently you do not appreciate how much trust has been lost and how much damage has already been done. You call the NY Times the paper of record like it is holy scripture or something but that same NY Times got us into the Iraq war by selling us government bullshit.

        Please do explain.

        • ozone November 17, 2015 at 11:08 am #

          Remember: “There Are No Safe Spaces”
          …that would include *this* space right here, would it not?
          Some ideas are inherently more dangerous than others and self-censorship is now our carefully plotted destiny. Trust will be the very last thing to return to those aware [of just a few] of the present circumstances.

          • K-Dog November 17, 2015 at 11:16 am #

            Indeed

        • DA November 17, 2015 at 7:25 pm #

          Good job K-Dog! The Emperor of James is indeed naked on this one.

      • liber8tor November 17, 2015 at 7:08 pm #

        Pail Craig Roberts commented recently on “false flag” events.

        He said (at this point) it makes no difference, false flag or not, the results are the same.

        Psychological wounding and the imposition of fear.

      • DA November 17, 2015 at 7:23 pm #

        Bobinboise — I don’t subscribe to this “false flag” bullshit. I have to assume that you are a crazy person and sooner or later, if you keep it up, I’m going to have to kick you out of the discussion.

        You continue to amaze me JHK. All your bluster about hidden/ill-begotten agendas and misappropriated resources and yet you can’t see the obvious when it’s served up right before your blinded eyes. By the way, your so-called “discussions” on this board ain’t all that enlightening either, so feel free to kick me out too. And by all means, please assume that I’m crazy too!

        • Sean Coleman November 18, 2015 at 3:25 pm #

          I accept that there are false flag operations (Ukrainian ‘popular rising’, Assad gassing his own people) but that doesn’t mean everything that happens is one.

          Dominic Cummings, a former Tory advisor to Cameron’s govt, spoke out about the shortcomings of politicians, officials and journalists last year: ‘MPs have no real knowledge of how to function other than via gimmick and briefings. That’s also how No. 10 works. It’s how all of them are incentivised how to operate. You get ahead by avoiding cock-ups and coming up with tactical wins, you don’t get ahead by solving very hard problems… politicians running around who don’t really know what they’re doing all day or what the purpose of their being in power is… Everyone thinks there is some moment, like in a James Bond movie, where you open the door and that’s where all the good people are, but there is no door.’

          http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2014/06/amazing-scandal-erupts-nobody-notices.html

          Hitchens comments, ‘There is no door!Those four words are almost literature.’

          The whole thing about the stupidity of the Good Little Maoists is that there is no secret elite cynically pulling the strings. They do it because they believe that’s what they ought to do. I expect that if and when ‘everyone else’ begins to think and act in possibly radically new ways they will follow suit without even remembering or realizing that they ever did differently. (JHK referred to this memory deficit a few weeks ago, and I commented that you need a faulty memory if you want to continue to believe in received opinion.) They may be just as intolerant then too. And of course they might not be able to adapt to reality either.

          In summary you don’t need conspiracy theories to explain it. It is psychological.

          • ozone November 18, 2015 at 7:06 pm #

            SC,
            NO ONE here said that all terror attacks were false flag exercises in incentivizing the general populace. Be that as it may, please do continue with these examples of blatant cognitive dissonance. Don’t forget to be recording via your i-phone when your head finally explodes from the overload; that could prove instructive. (At least, more than some of these references.)

          • Sean Coleman November 20, 2015 at 4:32 pm #

            Ozone, as usual I don’t know what you are trying to say (or not to say) but, having given the matter some consideration, I have arrived at the conclusion that you don’t wholeheartedly share my view. To which I say, ‘Ouch’.

            By the way, the everything was by way of practising my new skills in italics and not to be taken at full face value so as to lead astray the simple-minded. I think we can both probably agree that not everything bad that happens is the result of a false flag. Or is it?

            In England the conspiracy theorist Chris Spivey seems to be succeeding in proving that even Essex has its village idiot. (Local celebrity Joey Essex is said to own a watch that cost somebody £70k but cannot tell the time.)

            The start of this video is worth watching (up to 3.30) if only because of the crying baby. Lee Rigby was a young soldier who while walking along a South London street had his head cut off by two Islamic fanatics who turned out, as they often do, to have a history of heavy cannabis use. Spivey claims that it was all a hoax, or they killed a double, or something or other (I didn’t get that far).

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWktLecpKoc

    • patrickd November 16, 2015 at 1:52 pm #

      Paul Craig Roberts (and I) agree with you about the Paris attacks being false flag. His discussion is here: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/14/the-matrix-extends-its-reach-paul-craig-roberts/

      In the past couple months I’ve noticed that various EU leaders have been expressing interest in treating Russia fairly. This Paris attack seems to me to be a consequence of that change of attitude. If the US cannot complicity by target nations, it always destroys the target with social chaos.

      I don’t understand – yet – the thinking of the evil US masterminds behind this attack, but after watching that YouTube video about the Muslim intention behind this refugee influx, it does seem that the EU is doomed.

      But, as long as the US is pulling the strings of global chaos and war, the whole planet is doomed.

      As a veteran who volunteered 3 times for Vietnam, I now find myself secretly hoping that Russia, China, India, North Korea – somebody, anybody! – will find a way to nuke Washington and Manhattan – soon!

      But even that, sadly, is pitiful. The consequences of a pre-emptive strike against US power centers is pretty much death to the world. What needs to be done is to remove the head of the snake. And who can do that when the surveillance state is watching for anyone who will plan to do it?

      Maybe the answer is conventional war against the US by BRICS nations and their allies, to include invasion and occupation of the US plus internment of banking families across the globe.

      John Michal Greer wrote a wonderfully entertaining novel about an initial scenario of the US getting stomped militarily during its attempt to steal a huge oil field play in east Africa, by some of these BRICS nations. It was so satisfying that I read it twice. It’s called Twilight’s Last Gleaming.

      • Walter B November 17, 2015 at 12:02 am #

        I too read PCR and maintain a lot of respect for what he says and writes. Of course government is run by conspiracy, it always has been. I myself was elected and met and conspired with my co-officials for years and will do so again once I am sworn in this coming January once again, though we never did so for profit just operationally. Still secret meetings held without public attendance during which the fates of the governed are done every day. Of course you put three sitting US Senators at a private lunch with a preferred contractor where they decide where the power plant will be built, how much they will be kicked back and how much cash they all need to secure enough votes to get the damned bill passed is not only an everyday occurrence, it is probable even “legal” these days. And yes having been in the military officer corps, we did have regular secret meetings where the fates of many a man was determined as to which would live and which would not. There has never been a government on the face of the earth that did not careless toss aside the lives of its own people as need arose, and it will never, ever change. It is all conspiracy. However, Alex Jones DOES put an bad connotation to it and our host here most certainly does have the right to moderate as he sees fit, so I believe that we should honor his wishes and refrain from delving too deeply. I would be one who certainly would have to exercise great self control to do so, but I will give it my best, I promise.

        • DA November 17, 2015 at 7:45 pm #

          Me three on PCR, and retired military (enlisted) as well. Quite interesting to observe how the terms “conspiracy theorist” and “false flag” have taken on such negative connotations these days among the American civilian sheeple. I sense that they finally sense that they’re being fleeced too, and the cognitive dissonance is simply too much for their small little minds to bear.

          But I have to disagree with calling what JHK’s trying to do here as “moderating.” Moderating would be to say those are you’re views and you’re welcome to them, but we’re not going to explore them here. Please post elsewhere on another blog if you can’t agree to those terms. Labeling people as “crazy,” when the host, who is himself labeled “crazy” by almost everyone I know, is HARDLY just “moderating.”

          I think Jim is betraying some pretty obvious, never mind peculiar biases, here. Something along the lines of we should all be curious, just not too curious about what goes on behind the forbidden curtain. All of which just makes me and any other self-respecting “conspiracy theorist” all the more curious about what’s going on. And rest assured, it’s some unseemly shit, no matter how you slice it!

  8. nina November 16, 2015 at 10:02 am #

    Are you saying in order to halt radical extremism, we must become radical extremists ourselves?

    • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:06 am #

      nina, that is a given. To save the village we must burn it down. We tried that in Nam. Did not work. But, the West is out of ideas. So force is all that is on the table. Massive brute force more than the world has ever seen before. Welcome to WWIII. The Crusades are on. President Bush slipped up and called it correctly. This Anarchist feels pinched between the God Teams in a fight to the death. What a place to be in….

      • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 2:56 pm #

        Exactly. To save America, you folks would destroy it rather than build a Wall. Vietnam as the model of existence. Prognosis of pathology as Destiny.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 2:54 pm #

      Well what does “extremism” mean? In your book that includes defending our borders, right? To Liberals of a few decades ago that would have been seen as Treason. You have to understand that the Democrat Party has been completely infiltrated and the Media and Academia are complicit in all this.

  9. malthuss November 16, 2015 at 10:03 am #

    “or take on the clowning Donald Trump on the grounds of his sheer mental unfittedness to lead a government”.

    That is from the same guy who a few years ago believed in the Magic Negro.
    The politician who had a resume of ‘hope and infanticide.’

    • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 10:12 am #

      Helping to vote Mr. hopey changey into office the first time around was the last time I voted. I’ve lost all faith in the political process. Wake me up when the revolution begins.

      • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:51 am #

        Me too, I confess voting for Mr. hopey the first time around. The second time around I voted for myself since I could do a better job.

        Wake me up when the revolution is over.

        • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 11:08 am #

          In actuality, I wouldn’t mind missing the revolution either. They tend to be nasty, brutal and bloody. It would be fun to just fast forward to the peaceful, agrarian, sustainable society that might exist at some point in the future, if we don’t let the nuclear bombs fly.

    • Buck Stud November 16, 2015 at 10:23 am #

      Trump is gaining in the polls again; he IS for real.

      Meanwhile, the GOP establishment is starting to panic, hence the well-heard media whispering of a ‘draft Romney’ movement.

      And right on cue, Romney publicly urges Obama to ‘step it up’.

      • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:37 am #

        Trump is not “Real.” But the madness in America is. We will buy into a beautiful lie before the ugly truth. Trump is a salesman just selling the lie. Doing a good job of it. Give him his due.

        • seawolf77 November 16, 2015 at 1:35 pm #

          The noble lie is a concept originated by Plato as described in the Republic. In religion, a pious fiction is a narrative that is presented as true by the author, but is considered by others to be fictional albeit produced with an altruistic motivation.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 2:58 pm #

            Truth? You can’t handle the truth! Few can – only the Men of Gold and Silver. The rest, the Men of Iron, must be told that which comforts them.

  10. K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:12 am #

    You think the Paris attacks were bad? Just wait until a few maniacs lob some explosives at the giant Ras Tanura oil refinery and shipping terminal on Saudi Arabia’s Persian Gulf coast.

    Tongue in cheek I’ll say no. The day before the Paris attack Berut was bombed and the death toll is 43. Obama man was not on the news within minutes pledging solidarity there. So the lesson is it does not matter how horrific an attack is the level of reporting will be a function of political expediency. That the Paris attack could have been a false flag does not matter. It is exploited as one anyway and with zero delay.

    Cui bono. Everybody who is not a sand rat benefits from the Paris attack. No politician wants Syrian refugees on their soil, syriously. This attack is an excuse to clamp the lid down and keep the tired, poor, hungry, and huddled masses yearning to be free in horrific foreign refugee camps and away from their neighbourhood refugee center where they could smile at the local unemployed men as they walk by.

    Merkle’s popularity is in the shitter with a half million ‘New Germans’ since September and people are talking about Syrian Refugees across Europe the same way JHK rants about inmates in the Gaza Strip.

    Big Brains in the Pentagon are salivating at the number of soft American targets. They are waiting for something to happen here so they can advance their agenda. They have drooled in anticipation several times before. I won’t say when, you can all fill in the blanks but the ease in which the American media solved the Paris crimes and determined that ISIS was responsible should give a thinking man pause.

    Too bad we are plum out of thinkers.

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    • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:16 am #

      Only JHK’s quote was intended to be in italics.

    • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 10:37 am #

      We just had sheriff deputies gun down a rancher in Council, ID. They say the investigation will take six months. Strange how this investigation into the Paris bombing/shooting only took one hour.

      • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:47 am #

        Did it take that long because Obama it seems got the news sooner than that.

        But there have been experiments recently indicating it might be possible to transmit information faster than the speed of light thus making Obamas conduct explainable.

        • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 11:09 am #

          If Obama is truly God, like so many Democrats imagine, he is capable of literally anything!

        • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:32 am #

          K-Dog how do I get one of those Paul Dirac phones 🙂 Even Apple does not have that core-yet.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 16, 2015 at 12:24 pm #

          The networks didn’t know what happened yet, but they already knew it happened because whoever did it used social media to communicate, but then they went to encrypted sites so no one could keep an eye on them.
          http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/08/technology/code-specialists-oppose-us-and-british-government-access-to-encrypted-communication.html?_r=0
          Does anyone else remember John Miller stumbling over his words when he was asked why intelligence agencies did not keep the Tsarnaevs under surveillance when they were specifically warned about them? It almost seems like access to all communications is the goal and fighting ‘terror’ is the excuse.

      • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:35 am #

        Yes it is. Still very mad at that shooting. The info is not in but the White Wash is in. Hope his wife recovers as well as she can. It will be the Mil/Cops against the rest of us 98%.

        • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 12:18 pm #

          …and when the mil/cops realize the game is truly over, they will all abandon their posts and run home to be with their families. God help the Oligarchs when that happens…

          • DA November 17, 2015 at 8:56 pm #

            You overestimate the intelligence of the average Mil/Cop.

      • pentrus November 16, 2015 at 9:35 pm #

        The attacks in Paris seem pretty clear cut. ISIS has claimed responsibility. There are numerous videos online where individuals claiming to be ISIS say that they will do it elsewhere. When criminals are shooting unarmed civilians any civil security force worth its salt will try to stop which often includes killing the assailants. To denigrate the French investigation of the circumstances in Paris by comparing to a police shooting of a citizen in terms of how long the investigation will take when one has no in-depth knowledge of the circumstances seems a bit unfair. Do you actually know that the French authorities have stopped looking for evidence regarding the attacks? Do you actually have any knowledge that they have stopped evaluation evidence to fully understand the full scope and planning of the attacks? It is easy to make a claim that investigations have stopped, but I doubt that you have evidence to support the claim. It seems likely that the Paris incident will be dissected over and over by the authorities during the next several months. As for the Boise shooting, there is some question regarding what happened, and such investigations tend to be lengthy in such cases. As for all the conspiracy claims, I do not see any credible evidence for the claims.

    • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:42 am #

      “Too bad we are plum out of thinkers.”

      We have them. I am scared about WHAT they are thinking about.

      Save the 1%, maybe the 2% is all they are working on. That is really what overshoot is all about. Who do you save in a Capitalist World ? The inbred rich. The curtain is up. Enjoy the last act of Western Civ. For All.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 3:01 pm #

      In fact, the Western Elite speak as one: Nothing has changed. More Muslim immigrants on the way.

  11. Greg Knepp November 16, 2015 at 10:12 am #

    I watched “The Robe’ last nite on TV. This vapid sword-and-sandal epic of the early fifties is notable only in that it is credited as being the first CinemaScope movie*. I’ll add to this; an interesting, if not compelling, performance by Victor Mature** keeps things moving along at a tolerable pace. (Stars Richard Burton and Jean Simmons are terrible.)

    At mid-point in the story, the Emperor Tiberius, upon hearing of the Jesus-inspired religious turmoil in the province of Judea, confides the following prophetic observation to a few of his closest advisors:

    “When it comes, this is how it will start – some obscure martyr in some forgotten province…then madness! First affecting the legions, then rotting the Empire from within…Then the end.”

    I thought this was a timely scene.

    * I’m discounting the 1927 ‘Napoleon’ by Abel Gance as it was a precursor to three-screen Cinerama – not wide-screen CinemaScope. (incidentally, I was fortunate to meet Mr. Gance at the 1979 Telluride Film Festival where his work was being honored.)

    **Victor Mature’s real name is – you guessed it – Victor Mature!

    • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:30 am #

      “When it comes, this is how it will start – some obscure martyr in some forgotten province…then madness! First affecting the legions, then rotting the Empire from within…Then the end.”

      Universal human response to getting stuck with the check for the meal we ordered. Man, did that oil taste good. Sorry, no credit. Bill to be paid in blood only.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 16, 2015 at 12:39 pm #

      Someone once said that Richard Burton wasn’t an actor, he was a voice.

  12. erik November 16, 2015 at 10:18 am #

    Bombing “strongholds” may be useful in terms of destroying weapons caches, vehicles, tanks, etc. But in terms of actually striking them in the vitals…not much good. Now on the other hand an airborne “rabbit hunt” using Helos and drones combined with imaging technology to identify any collections of young men on the ground might be a plan. If you’re not obviously engaged in useful work and are just consorting with similar sorts, then you die. If 3 young doofuses all get into a car together and head out somewhere, then light ’em up. Let them know there will be no “hiding in plain view”.
    People avoid coming to terms with the truth: that it really is a war of the West versus Islam. They understand it that way…

    Shengen is coming to an end and soon. What to do about the vermin already infesting France, Germany, Sweden, etc. That’s tough, but I’d suggest a moratorium and any others coming in, including “family” members. Another thing: if you’re an immigrant from those areas and you want to take a vacation back to the “Old Sod”, so to speak…..You get on the plane and go, but you’re not coming back; it’ll be a one way trip.

    This latest Tsunami of “refugees” may be enough to rouse the somnolent. Maybe Marine Le Pen will be France’s next president.

  13. sauerkraut November 16, 2015 at 10:35 am #

    Very encouraging to see so many people get it. KDog, that was one of your best, and that is a high bar.

    • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:55 am #

      TY

  14. capt spaulding November 16, 2015 at 10:43 am #

    Islam was spread under the banner of jihad from it’s inception, and nothing has changed in the ensuing centuries. Even if only I/10th of 1 percent of muslims are terrorists, it only took 8 of ’em to bring France to it’s knees, and how about 9/11? There are more than enough of them to create the kind of turmoil that you see. Most of the world is set up to operate under conditions of peace. There is only one major area in the world where terrorism runs rampant. Gosh, that sounds like the middle east. You know, where the refugees are coming from. I imagine it’s only I/10th of 1% of the population there as well, who are bombing, murdering, etc. But that’s all you need to create complete chaos. Of course the apologists deny the reality of what is happening right in front of their faces, like the resident turd who posts here on a daily basis. I’ll leave it up to you to figure out who I mean.

    • wolfbay November 16, 2015 at 12:28 pm #

      You must be wrong . George Bush said ” Islam is peace”. Everyone should read the Koran. Admittedly many religious texts can be interpreted in destructive ways but the Koran makes it oh so easy. I’m not a fan of any organized religion but for some reason I’m not as concerned about suicide bombers who are Buddhist, Baha’i ,or Hindu for example.
      Also separation of religion and state are unacceptable to most Muslims.

      • capt spaulding November 17, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

        Well said, wolfbay, I completely agree with you.

      • capt spaulding November 17, 2015 at 3:01 pm #

        I agree with you.

        • Q. Shtik November 17, 2015 at 3:18 pm #

          Does the rewording of your prior statement mean that on second thought your agreement with wolf is less than complete?

          • Sticks-of-TNT November 18, 2015 at 6:20 am #

            You are an absolute hoot! No, I mean you are a hoot.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 3:07 pm #

      Many Muslims actually believe (wiser ones only pretend to) that the Muslims who conquered half of the known world within a hundred years of Mohammad’s death were only defending themselves. Utterly fatuous.

  15. Smoky Joe November 16, 2015 at 10:46 am #

    Despite my rep as a Campus Maoist (which would only be fun if one were actually Chairman Mao) I took a group of these morons on during the terrible events of 9/11/01. We watched the Trade Center collapse in stunned silence in a break room here.

    I said, into that silence, “Al Qaeda just signed its death warrant. We’re going to war.”

    The reaction was not about my wrongness (Al Qaeda is still with us and would not be defeated by overturning the Taliban government) but that I was leaping to “ethnocentric conclusions.”

    I popped a rivet. I told the idiots that in 1989, I’d first read about a guy named Osama bin Laden, a Saudi playboy turned true-believer. He was getting US aid to kill Soviets, and the writer in Atlantic was talking about “blowback” from all that. I told them that our intellectuals were too busy with victim-politics to see that an evil they would not acknowledge was a work in the world: apocalyptic forms of Islam that were the greatest totalitarian threat to civilization since Hitler’s and Stalin’s terrors.

    They dithered in response. I asked them who else could have staged simultaneous, well-planned attacks inside the US? And how could we stop more?

    These morons are not asking the first of those questions today. But the second one looms pretty damned large.

    The West helped to create this beast. Now what are we going to do about it, without becoming police states? We could nuke the Middle East from the Turkish Border to Cairo, from Aleppo to the Tehran, and we’d not touch the problems I saw simmering in the Paris and Marseilles suburbs in the 80s.

    We are in for a long, bloody, genocidal war. I suspect that the French will be readier than we Americans to go beyond bombing that only makes the rubble bounce in Assad’s wrecked country.

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    • tahoe1780 November 16, 2015 at 11:23 am #

      Who else, indeed? http://www.ae911truth.org/38-home-posts/78-education.html

      • Smoky Joe November 16, 2015 at 11:35 am #

        Oh, please. That conspiracy is all “just so” lunacy.

    • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:24 am #

      Big Chalmers Ashby Johnson fan. How about you Smoky Joe ?

      • Smoky Joe November 16, 2015 at 11:32 am #

        Been meaning to read Blowback for years. How about Robert Baer? We’ll see “Sleeping with the Devil” as prescient when the Saudi oil terminals go up in smoke one day. And they will.

        • Pogo November 16, 2015 at 11:59 am #

          Also put “Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic” by Chalmers Johnson on your reading list.

          But if you really want to spoil your day and scare the crap out of yourself, read “Nuclear Terrorism: The Ultimate Preventable Catastrophe” by Graham Allison, another professor and highly qualified observer.

          I don’t agree with Allison that it can be prevented, and just the amount of loose nuclear material he documents in the book is enough to give one permanent night sweats.

          • routersurfer November 18, 2015 at 7:25 am #

            Thanks for adding to my book list Pogo. Walt Kelly was a hoot. I still think I have a few paperbacks by him packed away. I was in grade school and my dad ask me if I understood what Pogo was about. I said ” Politics.” He smiled and bought me some more books.

        • routersurfer November 18, 2015 at 7:22 am #

          I think you will really like most of his work. The books dealing with Japan are a real eye popping read–a road map to HOW Japan will “Go Medieval.” Thanks for the ” Sleeping with the Devil” will check it out.

    • Pogo November 16, 2015 at 11:53 am #

      Smokey Joe, you must realize that “blowback” is just a short way of saying “We have met the enemy and they are us”.

    • elysianfield November 16, 2015 at 12:00 pm #

      Smokey,
      As a “Maoist”, then you understand the underlying goal of ISIS, which is to provoke the civilized nations into over-responding to the increasingly egregious terrorist acts by attacking Muslim countries, with predictable “collateral damage”. ISIS thus gains converts to their cause, which is the establishment of the fourth caliphate and eventual hegemony of Islam over the Infidel. It has been reported that the ISIS roll-call is 250,000+ strong now, a ten-fold increase since it’s first efforts. There is no action too violent or abhorrent… on the contrary, the more outrageous, the more press, and, after our clumsy response, more justifiable outrage in the Muslim world.

      The Black Panthers, in the late 60’s, used this same method… to bait police officers into over-reacting in the Ghettos, and thus alienate the black population.

  16. GetAbike November 16, 2015 at 10:56 am #

    All y’all have become unhinged.
    And Jim, do you really think these petty campus p.c. tyrants want a race war?
    All-righty then.

    • Smoky Joe November 16, 2015 at 11:33 am #

      Believe me, academics could not start a war if they had George Patton to lead them.

      • routersurfer November 18, 2015 at 7:29 am #

        Coffee pumping out my nose……thanks Smoky Joe ! BTW as a group I agree. A few loose cannons in academia always turn up in the revolution–as good leaders.

        • Smoky Joe November 18, 2015 at 10:39 am #

          That’s why the big villain in the “Dies the Fire” SF novels is an historian gone evil. I really need to read those books. I think his motto after the Collapse is “Rule the farmers or be a farmer.”

          The few academics who come to lead in revolutionary movements do make cunning villains. They have theory they understand that supports the brutality that follows. Marx and Engels are really clear about this role in The Manifesto. Of course Leon Trotsky was a theorist who never finished school but had the academic chops. That got him 1) an ice axe in the head from a Stalinist goon and 2) into Frida Kahlo’s bed.

          Hmm…not a bad fate, on balance!

  17. FincaInTheMountains November 16, 2015 at 11:07 am #

    Rostislav Ishchenko: Terror and Civilization

    To endanger normal life in a single state, not to mention the threat to civilization, you must provide a sufficiently large-scale and long enough in duration terrorist attack. For this you must have an army of several hundred (in the case of one town), several thousand (nationwide), and tens of thousands (to endanger civilization) ready for everything terrorists.

    Until recently, this problem seemed unsolvable. But after the appearance of the army of “the builders of Caliphate”, operating with openly terrorist methods and a whole network of sympathizers of organizations in Europe, Asia and North Africa, the issue of human, material and financial resources in general is resolved. Destruction of modern European civilization is the stated goal. The inevitable military defeat of the Caliphate in Syria and Iraq, leaving it with only one method of struggle – the path of terror.

    Special services are constantly improved, but the terrorists are fine tuning their techniques, study the working methods of security services and finding ways to effectively counter. In addition, until now the terrorists have always had the advantage of attacking side.

    Finally, in a global conflict of the great powers, when the terrorists without hesitation are being divided into good and bad, right and wrong, radical and moderate, they have a huge number of loopholes that allow to preserve the structure, ensure stable financing, building strength and maintaining intelligence work against the structures of regular States.

    Thus, the terrorist threat, not to a separate state, but to the entire civilization is extremely high. Even a state sponsor of terrorists (to achieve their regional or global targets), cannot feel safe. They themselves are an organic part of the civilization which the terrorists aim to destroy.

    The fact is that they put us in front of a choice between bad and worse. If you do not apply strict measures to fight terror, they can quickly destabilize the whole country or several countries. In the case of a sharp strengthening of security measures, the state runs the risk of paralyzing itself.

    But such a precedent has been in world history. From the sixteenth to the early nineteenth century, all the measures taken to combat piracy in the Atlantic (especially in the Caribbean), proved ineffective. The number of warships, which were sent for the anti-piracy raids and protection of convoys, was unable to cope with much more numerous and accustomed to local waters pirates. A further attempt to equip a large fleet led to the fact that the State had greater costs than from pirate raids on the merchants, and was unable to keep it in the remote waters for more or less long period of time.

    It seemed an issue with these terrorists of maritime spaces was unsolvable. However, it was solved in just twenty years, in the early nineteenth century: civilized nations have agreed that the differences and even hatred between them should not lead to support or provide shelter to pirates, plundering opponent’s ships. Hiring privateers for operations against enemy communications was replaced by activity of cruise ships of regular military fleets. And they began to act against the pirates in concert between all fleets in all waters.

    If the powers agreed that their differences should not lead to support for terrorists or provide them shelter or provide them with funding, devoid them of the “safe harbor” (no-fly zone??) and resources large terrorist army that can create a real threat to modern civilization cannot exist, and separate gang could be dealt with by special services of civilized countries, in close cooperation with each other.

    • routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:15 am #

      ” in close cooperation with each other. ” In a capitalist world you really think that will happen ? Take a look at Climate Change and even the end of the age of oil. This will end hand to hand. Winner take all with many sides thinking they can use these Godfreaks as proxies troops.

    • pequiste November 16, 2015 at 1:12 pm #

      There is a way to respond to the Yzlamik threat and the squeamish will not like it.

      Halt all Yzlamik immigration to Christian nations. The refugees should be going to stay with their brethren in Arabia, Albania, Bosnia, Kazakhstan and a dozen other shyteholes. Let them take care of their own.

      Encourage Yzlamik emigration – to the same Yzlamik countries previously mentioned or any other place of their choice. Keep them out of civilized countries. Help them decide to move with no permits to build their terror training centers ( madrasas, mosques, cemeteries…) No fucking prayers in the street. No hijabs/niqabs/burqas in public.NO special baths for taxi drivers. No welfare.

      ANgela Merkel is a traitor to Germany, it’s people and indeed all Chirstian Europe. She and much of the technocrat treasonous scum at the E.U. needs to be removed and tried for their crimes.

      Terrorists should be dealt with in the cruelest and harshest terms: the corpse of the Yzlamist jihadi should be incinerated with swine blood and flesh after any necropsy and the ashes returned to the family or mosque. An event that takes more than one innocent life must be met with the extermination of family members without exception.

      The war of the world against Yzlam will require the methodical application of full force – the determination of El Cid; the tactical brilliance of Charles MArtel; the swift intervention of King John Sobieski III, concerted efforts like the victory of Don Juan of Austria at Lepanto and if necessary (and it will be I think) the extraordinary ruthlessness of Ghengis Khan (see treatment of Khawarazimian Empire.

      This shit has been going on since the inception of the cult: 14 centuries of warfare to subjugate the world to Yzlam.

      I read a very provacative opinion regarding the new-king of Mecca as something to consider as a final option.

      Only total war will win victory over Yzlam.

      One other thing- we have to clean out the “wirepuller” scum in the West.

  18. routersurfer November 16, 2015 at 11:10 am #

    Great wrap on the week. A good forecast of murder and mayhem to follow in the coming decades. The changes in our country can be blamed on the ” WAR ” the real problems can be hidden behind that mask. Welcome to the Long Emergency. How do you like it so far ?

    • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 11:20 am #

      The Long Emergency sucks. I want to rewind to 1950 please. I’m getting collapse fatigue and we are barely getting started. Starting to wish I hadn’t read all of those peak oil books 10 years ago. My nerves can’t take much more of this shit.

      • routersurfer November 18, 2015 at 7:37 am #

        Yo, Bobinboiseid, chill dude. The word LONG is in the title for a reason. We will see and feel the effects, we are now. But the LSM will mislabel it so we can calmly go into the night. It will work. I do hope JHK is right in his books about how oil winds down…..ok the destruction of our art treasures in D.C. is sad…but all in all JHK’s path is a mild one. I have darker dreams. Relax, think in large long blocks of time.

        • bobinboiseid November 18, 2015 at 10:45 am #

          Will the financial crisis destroy large projects like oil drilling, which will terminate the electrical power grid, which would end the era of pressurized, purified water? Will most Americans be freezing to death in their homes in a few years? Why are the rich folks building survival shelters and moving to New Zealand?
          …or, will we have small collapses over a very long period of time?
          Stay tuned for the continuing saga of NOBODY KNOWS WTF WILL HAPPEN!

  19. Poet November 16, 2015 at 11:36 am #

    The capacity for selective outrage would be funny if not for the tragic and senseless loss of life on the parts of innocents. I don’t remember any such out pouring of rage when US drones routinely took out weddings and funerals from North Waziristan to Yeman and all points in between.

    If some determined radicals decided to place a bomb at the finish line of the Boston Marathon in order to kill, injure, or maim as many US citizens as possible for the sake of what their government was doing in their name, how would that be different than what those techie nerd video game refugees who fly Hell Fire missile firing drones out of Creech AFB in California or Ballad AFB just outside of Baghdad Iraq. from what took place in Paris this past weekend?

    There are plenty of concerts, sporting events, and other mass gatherings of US citizens all over the place (like in morning and afternoon “rush hour” on the “expressways” to enable mass carnage to be inflicted upon this country. As of right now, it has taken two presidents 14 going on 15 years to wage war in the middle east and the only winners are the war profiteering defense contractors who supply all the means to inflict such death and destruction with no resolution in sight. War is, after all is said and done, a very profitable business opportunity–to borrow a phrase from Mother’s and Father’s day advertisements in the 1950’s war is “the gift that keeps on giving”.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 7:59 pm #

      How is it different? Well you see one was against your own people. That should make a difference to you but it doesn’t. Yet you still consider yourself an American. Stranger and stranger.

  20. fodase November 16, 2015 at 11:57 am #

    Unfortunately, thousands more will die at the hands of peaceful muslims who slice open the bellies of injured victims to increase their agony as they should god is great and liberals light candles and wonder, oh how they wonder so hard, at how this could have happened and quickly denounce anyone who dares link this to islam or islamic migrants polluting europe with their physcal, psychological and cultural filth that is the cancer of our age

    after thousands more die at the hands of these peaceful muslims slaughtering them with bullets and machetes and poisons and knives and driving into crowds with their cars….

    evil liberal accomplices and facilitators will suddenly have the grand idea to close the border, check the identity of the muslims living in their back yard and possibly say we need to stop the flow of these monsters into the West.

    after these peaceful muslims slaughter the children of islam-loving sick liberals, the latter will say who could have known, we don’t understand what went wrong

    then they will light candles

    ===============================================

    shots fired at muslim house in florida, mosques targeted.

    of course the news story states that the muslim family discovered the bullet hole after it returned home after “feeding the homeless”

    liberals too are a religion of peace

    ===============================================

    back in the land of reality, why isn’t the french army invading all the no-go zones in france, house to house searches and immediate roundup of muslims for questioning ?

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  21. beantownbill. November 16, 2015 at 12:06 pm #

    We are all just a bunch of chittering monkeys flinging feces at each other. Unfortunately, the shit is composed of bullets and bombs.

    • routersurfer November 18, 2015 at 7:59 am #

      Sad but true beantownbill. Some of it glows until the end of time…

  22. Zoltar November 16, 2015 at 12:18 pm #

    In a university classroom a student has only to say that she “feels unsafe” about a topic and then the professor is obliged to remove it from the syllabus. In neighborhoods that are being swept by waves of “refugees,” a citizen who feels that his property and family are unsafe is told to shut up.

    For over a millennium in Europe and Scandinavia bloody wars have been fought for the sake of gaining, holding, and defending territory and now it seems that these nations are simply inviting an alien horde to walk in and take it.

    Swedish children trained to do happy dances over their country being relinquished to Allah.

    Who could dream this stuff up?

    • Smoky Joe November 18, 2015 at 10:41 am #

      You. Evidence please, for those claims?

  23. someonetakethewheel November 16, 2015 at 12:22 pm #

    One thing about the Islamists, they make no secret of their goals. The same goals they have pursued since the 7th Century – world domination, death of all Jews and unbelievers, the looting of all their possessions and enslavement and rape of their women.

    The terrible leverage of terrorism is used because it is cost effective and it works. It only takes a few (even a single) psychopaths to plant fear in an entire nation. Or to destroy 2 hundred story skyscrapers in the middle of New York.

    In Europe they have a 2 pronged attack underway, one via immigration and the second by terrorism. The strategy is to make people so fearful and uncertain about returning home safely that they will eventually submit to Islamic conversion in a foolish grasping for security.

    Meanwhile the West is disconcerted, distracted and delusional, willing to entertain these invaders while proclaiming it is a “Religion of Peace”. We apparently no longer have the ability to recognize and name the enemy.

    First thing to do is to ban the Quran as the hate speech and inciter of violence that it is. Let the Muslims try to defend this evil ideology.

    Second is to forbid the return of any travelers to the Caliphate. We need to get serious about this war on civilization.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 3:17 pm #

      Well said. It’s time to realize Civilization is fragile and we are in terrible danger. It’s time to expel the alien who is breeding ever more alien enemies within our borders. Sane people would have never gotten themselves into this – but Liberalism (and that includes Conservatives) is a mental illness in most since they deny where it all leads to: the death of Nations and some kind of Global State.

  24. BackRowHeckler November 16, 2015 at 12:27 pm #

    Jim, you’re right about ‘airpower’. It doesn’t accomplish sh-t, except give the illusion that something is being done.

    • routersurfer November 18, 2015 at 8:03 am #

      Well bombing does make a HUGE part of the flag waving world happy. And the bookkeepers, one must never forget them. Have to keep those stock prices up ! Until they tank forever.

  25. BackRowHeckler November 16, 2015 at 12:43 pm #

    Do the French still have their ‘Paras’, their Foreign Legion? Mobilize them, send them in, kick some ass. A few bombing runs by aircraft that aren’t really even bombers won’t accomplish anything.

    As far as as American colleges go, I tell my young relatives stay the f-ck away from those snakepits, its a waste of money and time. Enlist in the Corps, learn a trade, become an electrician, a plumber, a prospector, a mechanic, a carpenter, make yourself useful, earn a living, become an independent person. Men are a minority on campus now, about 45%, white men even less. To be jeered at by dykes from the Women & Queer studies dept, or an ‘African American’ studies major with an IQ of 80 and a chip on his shoulder … who the f-k needs it. Theses Maoists and ‘Precious Pearls’, who’ve weaponized ‘victimhood’ and made a virtue out of weakness can take their ‘Institutions of Higher Education’ and shove them up their ass. They can’t go out of business soon enough.

    Incidentally, today out at UCONN, there’s a big protest rally going on, against Radical Islam? Mass Murder, the ISIS atrocities and mass rape? Hell no! Its against ‘White Privilege’, racism and ‘intolerance’. It was inspired by the Univ. President herself, apparently ‘down with the revolution’, except this revolutionary makes $850,000 per, has two mansions at her disposal, a staff of servants, and a personal driver for the 2 limos in the garage.

    brh

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    • malthuss November 16, 2015 at 1:26 pm #

      Whats her name and email?

  26. volodya November 16, 2015 at 12:43 pm #

    Trump keeps jumping the shark and his numbers keep going up.

    Why is this? Are Democrats right, are Republicans really semi-literate morons?

    I think it’s like someone said on Sunday morning TV: Trump followers will tell you that we left things to the “experts” (quotations mine) and look at what happened.

    It’s as good an explanation as I’ve heard. Besides, I agree with the notion. Look at where the “experts” took us.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 3:20 pm #

      It’s simple: he tells a simple version of the Obvious Truth. A Barbarian? Sure, but that is better than a sophisticated liar like Obama or a snake like Hillary. Your priorities are all off. But as a Liberal, that’s to be expected.

      • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 5:36 pm #

        Trump knows how to sell a lie. Hillary can only tell a lie. I’d like nobody for president, and a quick disbanding of the Federal Government. Back to just a bunch of cooperative states. I would vote for that!

        • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 8:02 pm #

          Well, that’s not a totally bad idea. I’m hoping Trump is, if not the Man on the White Horse, at least one of his forerunners. I could be wrong on that. I’m voting for him because I have nothing to lose. At least he offered us something. The rest didn’t even bother too. Jeb! and his handlers were convinced they could win without their White base at all.

          • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 9:28 pm #

            Seems that Trump is employing a new strategy of carefully sucking up to the Democrats and the Republicans at the same time.
            If Trump were to somehow win the presidency because Hillary accidentally falls off a cliff, I think he would quickly learn how to play nice with the oligarchs.
            I really don’t think he has a conscience, he’s just another moneygrubbing sociopath who’s bored of building hotels and got the wild hair that he might like to run a country.
            Trump wins we lose. Hillary wins we lose.

    • routersurfer November 18, 2015 at 8:10 am #

      “Are Democrats right, are Republicans really semi-literate morons?”
      All my family votes GOP…..most are selling Jesus for a living or into things that will lead to becoming useful residents of The State in a private jail. I’m far left of Bernie…..I agree with Jim compound interest works for everyone. So does gravity. But I like “social” bars build around everything. Including the most Holy of all Capitalism.

  27. volodya November 16, 2015 at 12:45 pm #

    The ninny-ism that we see on campus is maladaptive. Like all mal-adaptations it is doomed to extinction.

    I saw a college prof explain “micro-aggression” to an interviewer. The prof has Asiatic features and he said that he’s been asked where he’s from. So he responds, he tells the questioner the American city of his birth. But the questioner asks yeah but where is the prof REALLY from?

    This folks, according to the learned professor, is the devastating offense of “micro-aggression”. It leaves the – cough – “victim” outraged and psychologically burned.

    See, simple curiosity about someone’s overseas ancestral origin is taken to be a racial attack, demeaning and setting the victim apart and segregated as not a REAL American.

    Have to admit, I don’t really get this AT ALL. People hear my surname and ask what “nationality” is it. I tell them. Simple enough question. I’ve asked the same question of others, I’ve asked people with foreign accents or obviously foreign origins where they’re from.

    In my experience people take kindly to curiosity about themselves. NEVER in my experience has a responder taken offense, in fact, what often follows is a conversation about the person’s life and the situation in their “old” country. Sometimes the “old” country is already a couple generations in the past and there’s not a lot to talk about but, no matter, it’s how you often make a personal connection.

    The student elite are told at college that THEY are the future leaders. Lord help us, how do we trust such people in ANY capacity, even the most menial, never-mind leadership, when they have such a head full of nonsense and who see fit to make problematic such everyday, friendly interaction? America is supposedly a country of immigrants but one where the topic of foreign origins is not for civilized company.

    The world is full of really vile people, who do really vile things, things that need to be dealt with. How will these cope-less, college ninnies er, cope, if they take simple inquisitiveness as “aggression”?

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 3:25 pm #

      I’ve experienced deep resentment from immigrants when asking them about where they’re from. They want to be seen as Americans, as American as anyone else – even if they’re not. Particularly if they’re not. The kind of innocuous conversations you’ve had are possible with European immigrants who came here legally and who are naturally going to fit into a European America.

  28. FincaInTheMountains November 16, 2015 at 12:54 pm #

    “First thing to do is to ban the Quran as the hate speech and inciter of violence that it is. Let the Muslims try to defend this evil ideology.”

    How about making priority #1 declaring a war on Islamic State by US Congress, enacting “Trading With the Enemy Act of 1933” and bringing the criminal charges against the people in Washington guilty of aiding and abetting the terrorists of Islamic State.

    Somebody must be guilty of living the Mosul stocked up with arms and ammunition for IS to take.

    Here’s the list of potential candidates: former Secretary of State Clinton, General Petraeus, General Allen (Ousted ISIS Czar).

  29. Buck Stud November 16, 2015 at 12:56 pm #

    Apparently, “Anonymous” has just jumped into the fray, declaring war on Daesh/ISIS:

    “Anonymous from all over the world will hunt you down. You should know that we will find you and we will not let you go. We will launch the biggest operation ever against you,” the spokesperson continued, according to translated transcripts of the video.”

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/16/anonymous-hackers-declare-war-on-islamic-state.html

    • Buck Stud November 16, 2015 at 12:59 pm #

      ISIS is known for it’s use of social media so this might prove very interesting indeed and in more ways that one….if “Anonymous” gains access to ‘certain information’…well one gets the drift.

    • FincaInTheMountains November 16, 2015 at 1:02 pm #

      They declared a war on civilization, the civilization must declare a war on them, every meaningful contribution matters, aside of things like “ban the Quran” – that is not helpful at all.

      • MisterDarling November 16, 2015 at 2:49 pm #

        FitM,

        re | “They declared a war on civilization, the civilization must declare a war on them”

        The problem these days Fincador, is that they are not the only ones declaring war on civilization…. This is an even bigger problem.

    • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

      Interesting.

  30. simon.dc3 November 16, 2015 at 1:04 pm #

    Lest we forget: Jews carried out quite a few bombings against British interests in the years prior, during, and after WWII.

    In all, amounting to dozens of British officers –and dozens more English civilians serving in Her Majesty’s Service– massacred in the years prior to the formation of the state of Israel.

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    • beantownbill. November 16, 2015 at 2:29 pm #

      So tell me, what the fuck has this got to do with the thread this week?

    • MisterDarling November 16, 2015 at 2:47 pm #

      Simon.dc3,

      Few are the people who recall the King David Hotel bombing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing),
      the Sergeant’s Affair or the Haifa Street bombings (and how the terrorist car-bomb technique was pioneered there [*]) – except for members of the last ‘global empire’… It’s inconvenient.

      😉

      Of course you realize that this is not particularly germane to this week’s topic, yes?

      Cheers!

      — — —

      [*] Citing best-selling author and professor Mike Davis’s history of the car-bomb ‘Buda’s Wagon’

      • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2015 at 3:03 pm #

        Bill and MD,

        I’ve checked out a few lefty sites, they’ve seemed to have identified the culprits behind terrorism in Paris; you guessed it, Israel and the CIA, maybe both. I shit you not.

        brh

        • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 3:43 pm #

          Check out Far Right wing sites: same beliefs. It’s you chickens in the middle who are just waiting to get plucked. It’s touching you still trust our Government though.

          • sauerkraut November 16, 2015 at 4:18 pm #

            Cruel, Janos, cruel. But funny.

          • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 5:43 pm #

            Brings a tiny tear to my patriotic eye… Believest thou government Ye Sheeple

      • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 3:48 pm #

        By no means, sir, by no means! When talking about one thing, it’s natural to talk about other examples of that same thing, to compare and contrast, and by so doing extract the essence or invariable aspects of that thing. Thus if we are talking about terror, why wouldn’t we bring up other examples of it? Besides Jewish terror, we could talk about Irish terror or Anarchist terror and compare these with Islamic.

        Hope that clears that up for you.

        • sauerkraut November 16, 2015 at 4:19 pm #

          Well said, Janos. You are indeed on a roll.

        • sauerkraut November 16, 2015 at 8:01 pm #

          Correction. I should have written, “Very well said, Janos.”

          • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 8:06 pm #

            Very well, I accept you self correction, comrade kraut.

  31. stelmosfire November 16, 2015 at 1:07 pm #

    Read : http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/day-of-wrath-william-r-forstchen/1120168786 it reads like a copy of the Paris attacks. Coming soon to a town near you. I am surprised it took the fanatics this long to figure it out. The novella was written a while ago. Coming soon to a local near you. I was at the Omni in RI this weekend the day after the attacks, Two buses of Arabic speaking people checked in, My wife wanted to leave, Fortunatly all we heard was a bunch of loud noise and saw some trash in the hallways. Also read “One Second After” by the same author. Say armed my friends, better to have a gun and not need it, than to need it and not have it!

    • beantownbill. November 16, 2015 at 2:31 pm #

      Read the sequel, “One Year After”.

      • stelmosfire November 16, 2015 at 8:09 pm #

        Already read , “One Year After” BTB at least they are not eating faithul Golden Retreivers in the sequil! I would die before killing my dogs. That is the truth!

  32. islander800 November 16, 2015 at 1:27 pm #

    Should another similar attack happen soon in France, I think the world could be stunned by the French response.

    Remember, France is an independent nuclear power that does not need the permission of America, or anyone else, to employ them as they see fit.

    The French are rightfully royally pissed and they may take out their anger on some key ME targets. Wait for it. Going nuclear could be on their table.

    In a moment, those “cowardly” French will be shown to have more balls than blowhard America.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 3:55 pm #

      Also remember what happened immediately AFTER WW2 in France. The Left took revenge on the Right, claiming, either rightly or wrongly in any given case, that they were Nazi collaborators. Countless thousands died in the pogroms.

      In Germany, more people died after the official end of hostilities than died during them. Hundreds of thousands of Civilians succumbed to disease, weakened by the starvation diet imposed by the Allies. Over a million German POW’s died in Eisenhower’s death camps.

      Remember, France is doomed whether they do that or not. They’ve taken in millions of Muslims who have no interest in their culture. Victory is assured thru the wombs of their women – even if France stopped all immigration now. But the Party in power has vehemently affirmed that nothing will change and the gates stay open. What can one say but those whom the gods wish to kill they first drive mad.

  33. Buck Stud November 16, 2015 at 1:36 pm #

    Many opine that the 2003 U.S. of Iraq created ISIS :’George Washington is the father of the U.S.; George W. Bush, the father of ISIS’ as a poster wrote last week”

    The posted article below is a fascinating account of why that may be true:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/11/-sp-isis-the-inside-story?CMP=fb_gu

    • Buck Stud November 16, 2015 at 1:37 pm #

      *INVASION*

    • basil November 16, 2015 at 3:01 pm #

      oh, what a tangled web. I have been personally opposed to any intervention in the middle east since the 1970’s. this guardian article further convinces me that Charlie Wilson/Ronald Reagan’s support of Osama bin laden in the mid-1980’s was the beginning of a long downward spiral in that part of the world, dragging us along with it.

    • sprawlcapital November 17, 2015 at 10:52 pm #

      I was that poster last week, Buck. Thanks for the quote.

      The exact wording, as i recall:

      George Washington, the father of our country.

      George W. Bush, the father of ISIS.
      =================
      I think it would look good on a bumper sticker.

      The Guardian article provides a wealth of details that I had not known about. Truth can be more interesting than fiction.

  34. fodase November 16, 2015 at 2:01 pm #

    unfortunately, the only thing that will mobilize the pussy liberal peoples and politicians of europe is more carnage by these monsters

    very unfortunate.

    the insane extremist leftist press is still pumping out articles about ‘extreme far-right’ protestors upsetting ‘peaceful’ demonstrators calling for tolerance following the absolute slaughter in paris.

    that is what we are up against.

    notice wpa is eerily silent today, no doubt trying to come up with something to tell us islam is a religion of peace

    will be very gratifying to see the bulldozers raze the mosques and the despicable bearded imams thrown in jail for ‘hate’ crimes.

    you know, the insane liberals are still going after christmas depictions of the manger outdoors as constitutionally banned, while they appease fanatically violent muslims preaching hatred and slicing open the bellies of their victims, and want to welcome these subhumans into US communities

    i think obama is sensing he’s on the losing end of this fiasco politically

    the entire Western world should right now be conducting 24×7 strikes against these folks and ferreting out every last one of them.

    it can be done. it was done in WWII.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 4:03 pm #

      Yes. Maybe then they will sue for peace and we can refrain from nuking Mecca. Ah, if only. If only our Government wasn’t in bed with Saudi Arabia and Israel who fund this crap. If only our People weren’t categorically insane, hating their traditional brothers while welcoming the murderous alien. As it is, France will probably attack the Assad. I think that’s what this is really all about from our end. But remember folks, as our Elite use the Muslims, the Muslims are using them. They think they can handle them, evidently. I doubt that they can.

  35. Pucker November 16, 2015 at 2:28 pm #

    Existential Question: John D. Rockefeller’s father was literally a traveling “Snake Oil Salesman”, and a bigamist who fucked around and fathered at least two illegitimate children. But did this make him a Bad Man? He was, after all, the father of a Captain of Industry?

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    • basil November 16, 2015 at 3:03 pm #

      you forgot “most destructive piece of crap in history”.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 4:05 pm #

      It’s very early for you to start this, Puck. But I’ll answer you this way: Be the Shit Lord the Left thinks you are. Can you do that, even in a small way?

    • MisterDarling November 16, 2015 at 5:49 pm #

      Pucker,

      “-and a bigamist who fucked around and fathered at least two illegitimate children. But did this make him a Bad Man?”-p.

      Are you trying to tell us something, Pucker? Personally, I’m not known for being judgmental when there are so many real crimes and atrocities in the world. ‘Trouble’ of the hanky-panky variety rarely shows up on my ‘moral outrage radar’.

      After all, I’m the guy who read ‘Sex at Dawn’ on his honeymoon and laughed his butt off.

      Bon Chance!

  36. Pucker November 16, 2015 at 2:29 pm #

    What would happen if one asked one of the US college PC “Micro Aggression” drones to play Devil’s Advocate and to argue a contrary position?

  37. Pucker November 16, 2015 at 2:30 pm #

    Is it “Micro Aggression” to poke fun at inferior people, i.e. comedy?

  38. MisterDarling November 16, 2015 at 2:30 pm #

    Mr. Kunstler provides an interestingly open-ended vehicle for airing all of last week’s concerns and grievances. A useful choice when things are still up in the air, dust unsettled, from the freshest atrocity.

    Interesting Side-bar: were the events of last Friday a ‘false-flag’ operation by a purportedly friendly government or agents thereof? JHK says emphatically NO and threatened a poster who proposed that it is with banishment. At this point I can only say that it was *unlikely but not impossible*.

    The number of state actors – starting with ours – with the Means, Motive and Opportunity is long. After all, institutionalized kidnapping, indefinite detention without charge, systematic and widespread use of torture, global wiretapping, deeply compromising and destruction of critical IT-security infrastructure, tacit acceptance of heroin trafficking & even forcible sodomy and pederasty were all “conspiracy theory” items that are incontestable, well-documented conspiracy-facts today.

    Given what we now know, who would put engineering a mass-casualty-producing false-flag operation past such people? They’ve lied and been caught lying repeatedly to the American People, the highest courts in the land & the entire world.

    The state of the rule of law is in such a degenerate state that the perpetrators of the aforementioned state-sponsored crimes are not held accountable in any meaningful way. In this environment of brazen lawlessness – beyond the pale of any normal, decent, acceptable standard of civilized conduct – it would be an act of rank incompetence to exclude them from the suspect list.

    Just to be clear though: ISIS/ISIL/’Daesh’ still tops the hit list. They need to go first.

    😉

    Cheers!

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 4:13 pm #

      With all due respect, I think Mr Kunstler was objecting to the guy because he was insinuating not just a false flag, but a completely staged event where nothing really happened.

      For the record, Alex Jones believes this really happened and that it was done by Muslim extremists. He merely believes that they are funded and supported by rogue elements in the West. But the rogue elements are now in power, at least secretly.

      • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 6:11 pm #

        No putting words in my mouth, please.
        I believe something was captured in pictures and video, and many innocent people may have died terrible deaths.
        I also think there is about a 95% chance the gunman / bombers were in the employ of the French Govt.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 8:08 pm #

          Ok, thanks for the clarification.

  39. InquiringMind November 16, 2015 at 3:16 pm #

    Gentle folks out there reading …..I have an astute gift reading the mood of the voting electorate in America. There are already lots of disaffected Democratic voters leaning towards Trump. I disagree “at this point” with Mr. Kunstler ‘s judgment about Trump. Even if he is correct..then .what other options do we have?!!!

    Trump,at least, has a reasonable tax plan,.and…a reasonable “tweek” for the Marketplace healthcare option…..Trump will not sneak attack Social Security like the other Repubs plan to do ,…and he was DEVASTATING in his correct assessment that among the Syrian REFUGEES there would be a real possibility of the TROJAN HORSE coming into any nation that takes them in.

    Yes he can be a little tactless at times . I don’t think ALL the Iowa voters have corn infested brains ….but I believe a large chunk of them might. LOL. He may be the only one with enough business skills to help our economy and enough real love for his nation to care about protecting our children from terrorists. I don”t trust Hillary or Carson enough to give them my vote. I will just sit home if I have to choose between them.

    And here is another thing. I am a very fluid voter . I have swung between the two parties for many years, But the Democrats are not hard enough to protect us now. God help us that we have to put up with this diddling, and mollycoddling, and politically correct stuff for another year!!!

    And I do not dislike Obama… and I think (other than some foreign policy) he has been a good President in these hard economic times .You see… it is not just about Obama…it is about the world waking up to the fact that there has been a kind of “FECKLESS KINDNESS” in too many of it’s leaders. ESPECIALLY in Europe. Marine LE Pen will be the next head of France. Like it or not. And if the Americans can’t see Trump as a viable alternative to mealy mouthed griffters than we will probably get what we deserve.

    I had a strange gestalt again the other night! I saw a pattern ….a pattern in HISTORY!!! President Lincoln fought those who tried to destroy the Union.and he made a great speech known as the Gettysburg Address…and later he was assassinated. President Kennedy fought against Communism and spoke at the Berlin wall “ich bin ein Berliner” and later was assassinated by a communist. President Obama spoke in Cairo Egypt and started an Arab Spring …….So logically ….well…Isis could attack him. Then the sh…..t would really hit the fan and folks could be calling for 3 Minutemen missiles down on Raqqa!!!! Just conjecturing of course.

    • AKlein November 16, 2015 at 3:43 pm #

      I have never actually listened to any of Donald Trump’s speeches. I have, however, read some of his points. Frankly, these points do not seem very ridiculous to me. In fact, they seem quite sane. His positions on many topics seem quite reasonable for a person who cares more about the welfare of his country and its people than some kind of bizarre ideology. As far as his being crude, well, we endured Bush II didn’t we? I wouldn’t call W erudite. Yet many of my acquaintances deride Trump as being a boor, a troglodyte. As though they were selecting guests for a elite dinner party.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 4:19 pm #

        Well said Al. Style has triumphed over substance. As the old saying goes, Civilization clomps up on hob nailed boots but descends in silk slippers. Trump has his boots on and if we want an America 2.0 we better start supporting guys like him. Jacob Burckhardt, much quoted by Mumford, called them the “terrible simplifiers” and they arise when sophisticated men become too effete to act, think, OR EVEN LOOK.

        It’s not rocket science but it’s amazing how people just can’t get it. The N.Y Times lies with beautiful English. Other people tell the truth with crudity and poor diction and bad grammar. Style or Substance? Most will choose Style because they never really got the Substance and thus they can’t tell the difference.

        • AKlein November 18, 2015 at 12:14 pm #

          Janos, “Starkist wants tuna that tastes good, not tunas with good taste.”

        • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 1:38 pm #

          Style or Substance? – Janos

          ===========

          How about style AND substance?

  40. teddyboy46 November 16, 2015 at 3:22 pm #

    I am still meditating on the analogy JHK made a few blogs back about Hilary being the Big Mommy candidate. She is Confused at times and says the Wrong Thing but has a lovely smile, and loves her People.

    Put The Trump in for the Big Father candidate. He is Crude and Embarrassing but he has Confidence and of loves his people.

    I also find it interesting that the Republicans are stuck in 1998 . They are still talking about the same issues in the same way. It is like they are stuck in a Time Warp and are fading away. Even their usual suckers are getting tired of their song and dance.

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    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 4:21 pm #

      Loves her people? Lovely smile? Ok, never mind. Let’s just go with your flow: the two should marry and begin an American Monarchy.

  41. dweebus November 16, 2015 at 3:22 pm #

    JHK-

    “The West itself, including America, is a circus of soft targets. The softest ones are between our ears.”

    Dang! That was a humdinger if I ever heard one.

    It reminds me of a quote by William T. Sherman: “…we are not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war…”

    So, is the West willing to go there. Not yet. But the G20 meeting with Putin is a hopeful sign. He seems to be the only intl actor with his head screwed on…

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 4:26 pm #

      Yes, let us treat the Muslims as badly as Sherman treated the Whites of the South. Or the Allies the Germans after both Wars – the French actually using Black African troops to police part of the conquered area. The level of rape was beyond belief.

  42. AKlein November 16, 2015 at 3:29 pm #

    The forces whose spirits are sated only by war and violence will not allow peace to break out. The complexity of the world is not sustainable unless peace is allowed to rule the day. So, if peace is to not be permitted to break out, then complexity will have to go. And so it will. Safe havens will exist only sporadically and locally. Pax Americana is finis.

    • sauerkraut November 16, 2015 at 3:47 pm #

      My comment was intended to refer to your post, AKlein. Well said.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 4:30 pm #

      The Allies made a desert and called it peace. Now their dead zone is committing suicide. No mystery that men can’t be induced to defend what isn’t real. If they try to, they are arrested. I asked on an International Forum, what was the purpose of NATO then? A German answered, if we rise to defend our Nation against Merkel and her Muslims, they will attempt to crush us. The Germans have already experienced Sherman’s March to the Sea – and have never really been allowed to recover from it.

    • ozone November 16, 2015 at 7:43 pm #

      AK,
      Great nitty-gritty assessment.
      Since JHK has correctly observed that “there are no safe spaces”, you now know why a great many of those who identify with the [traditional] term of ‘liberal’ are as well-armed and ready as their brownshirt counterparts. A situation not often contemplated, and it should prove to be interesting.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 8:13 pm #

        Bravo, I would except nothing less. And I expect to see you marching with Orcs in your uniform of blue jeans and rock t shirt.

      • ozone November 17, 2015 at 5:28 pm #

        Here’s hoping that vladdie keeps on with his unimaginative [sic] ‘except’-ing and ‘expect’-ing. Things will be so much easier that-a-way.

        Aside: The bait is not taken regarding weaponry and preparedness or lack thereof. (Personally, I’ve got lots of rocks, and sticks are handy as well. I also have an extra 5 lbs. of flour and about a pound of frozen hamburger I keep for emergencies. Batteries? Oh, maybe I should get a few of those…)

        Wha’choo got vladdie and just who makes up this nebulous ‘we’ you obliquely continue to mention? C’mon, inquiring (and polite) conspiracy scoffers want to know. (That’s why they’re inquiring.)

        • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2015 at 12:44 am #

          What are you talking about? You are weird and bad. The frozen hamburger is your best weapon if you can build a cannon. You see the power is going to go off and it wont be any good then, right?

  43. bobwise32952 November 16, 2015 at 3:37 pm #

    No safe spaces at all! Between foreign religious lunatics and our homegrown secular crazies, you could be caught up in a mass murder almost anywhere. I’m thinking of applying for a concealed carry permit. Slim chance that an individual with a small handgun could do any good in such a situation. But the most sickening aspect of these situations to me is the common story of people hiding or playing dead while the murderer reloads.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 4:33 pm #

      Yes, sickening. Many such mass murders could have been prevented by someone with a gun. Nay, many already have been but the media doesn’t talk so much about those. Europe has been disarmed and is helpless against Merkel, her Henchmen, and their Muslim Orc Soldiers. We are heavily armed – and that burns the Liberals no end. They want us helpless against their Orc Soldiers here.

      • bobwise32952 November 16, 2015 at 5:00 pm #

        I’m pretty liberal myself, and would like to see some reasonable gun control regulation, like getting the assault rifles and banana clips off the street. No one needs these for home defense or hunting – unless the deer have started shooting back.

        • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 6:21 pm #

          What if our govt goes all Hitler on us?? You’ll be wanting those SEMI-AUTOMATIC* rifles and banana clips then my friend.

          *Assault rifle refers to a fully automatic weapon, of which only a tiny amount exist in America and they are heavily regulated, cost around $30,000 each, none of which has been used in a crime in pretty much forever.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 8:28 pm #

            Actually scoped deer rifles will be best, though I agree with your sentiments in general. If it comes to that, we’re not going to shoot it out with them man to man. The bullet from half a mile away up on Choctaw Ridge is the ticket. The only battle you have to win is the last one.

        • elysianfield November 16, 2015 at 8:28 pm #

          “No one needs these for home defense or hunting …”

          Who needs a Picasso? If you know as little about fornication as you do weaponry and gun issues, you will die childless. I hope your post was a hurried effort in high dudgeon…and that you would not wish further gun control on the law abiding in this country.

      • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 6:27 pm #

        Any mass murder event is a giant endorsement for a well armed citizenry.
        Observant folks will notice that mass shootings always happen in “gun free zones” or in societies with “sensible gun control”.

        • Dave in Pasadena November 17, 2015 at 2:17 am #

          Boisebob: Colorado is not a gun free zone and is not a society with sensible gun control. Yet, two of our most infamous and relatively recent mass shootings occurred in Colorado — one in a high school and the other in a movie theatre. So much for your theory.

          • Florida Power November 17, 2015 at 9:48 am #

            All schools are gun-free zones.
            The Aurora movie theater (possibly even more Aurora real estate) was/is a gun-free zone.

        • Dave in Pasadena November 17, 2015 at 2:23 am #

          Boisebob, I suppose next you’ll tell us that there are no mass shootings in Texas or elsewhere in the south where one would be hard pressed to find a gun free zone or a society with sensible gun control.

          • Florida Power November 17, 2015 at 9:54 am #

            Last mass shooting in Texas I recall was at Ft Hood. Something about a dissatisfied Muslim psychotherapist with a government-issued 45. (Unless you want to take it back to Charles Whitman, or the recent shoot-out involving bikers and police and lots of unanswered questions).

            Ft Hood, like the recent recruitment offices under fire from, um… was it dissatisfied Muslims? was/is a gun-free zone.

            Unlike our liberal friends who would disarm us, these brave Muslim “freedom fighters” are not stupid. They go where it is very likely their work for the greater good will not be interrupted.

          • Florida Power November 17, 2015 at 9:59 am #

            Oh — should have added — the one instance in the Dumbell Stupid South where a couple of freedom fighters sought to elevate the locals to a higher civilized plane (Pam Geller’s draw Mohammed provocation) ended in woe and frustration for the freedom fighters. An armed local. Imagine that.

  44. sauerkraut November 16, 2015 at 3:45 pm #

    “The complexity of the world is not sustainable …”

    Of course, you are absolutely right. I have not heard it stated so clearly before. Thank you.

  45. Ted Stosterone November 16, 2015 at 3:58 pm #

    You really are a National Treasure, Jim. So nice to be able to come here weekly and find such clear, gloves-off, writing about the big issues.

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  46. FincaInTheMountains November 16, 2015 at 4:46 pm #

    It must be admitted that Hillary Clinton was right when in the TV debates held immediately after the Paris tragedy, said that the term “Radical Islam” is bad as war is necessary not with Islam, but with a radical, criminal ideology – Salafism or Wahhabism, both covered under the term Islamism, the one that West (British) created in the image and likeness of radical Protestantism, specifically for the destruction of the Islamic Ummah in general and the Ottoman Empire in particular.

    And after World War II Islamism was polished by Middle East ODESSA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA and then this ideology in its most important aspects became virtually identical to Nazism – the ideology that is designed for the Germans by the organization known as the Ahnenerbe under the creative leadership of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Muhammad Amin al-Husseini.

    Another thing is that Hillary, rejecting the term actually tried not to defend the Islamic Ummah from the false accusations, but to protect her friends – Salafis – who made billions of dollars in contributions to the Clinton’s fund.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 8:19 pm #

      No, ISIS and Al Qaeda reject the Nation State, which is the very essence of Fascism. Their political ideal is the Caliphate, an idea alien to the West. And no, Hitler didn’t take orders from the Muff. You’re talking out your ass again.

      Read “Milestones” by Sayyid Qutub. Not you, but anyone who really wants to know what they believe.

  47. fodase November 16, 2015 at 5:13 pm #

    No safe spaces at all! Between foreign religious lunatics and our homegrown secular crazies,

    the difference being that wpa’s .1% ‘bad guys’ in you-know-what (shhhhh, it cannot be said aloud) equates to 16 or 160 million lunatics that need extended dirtnapping pronto, while homegrown secular crazies are a tiny negligible problem in relative size and culture given that the US has 320 million folks or so.

  48. bukowskisghost November 16, 2015 at 5:13 pm #

    Still waiting for the powers that be to prosecute the real powers that be on Wall Street …..better odds that Godot will show. All you armchair analysts should just enjoy what you can while you can. It ain’t the leaders , it’s the followers and I’m afraid the average IQ of most jihadist types is somewhere in the low 80’s, That, plus an overload of testosterone doesn’t help. Philosophical discussions mean diddly squat to those folks.

  49. MisterDarling November 16, 2015 at 5:23 pm #

    French patience? Apparently it’s tapped:

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/french-minister-speaks-on-radical-mosques-567291459811

    Start with the radical mosques. Check!

  50. MisterDarling November 16, 2015 at 5:31 pm #

    Next on the to-do list:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/619871/borderless-Europe-France-Schengen-suspension-Paris-terror-attacks

    Suspend the Schengen Agreement ‘open borders’ policy – for the duration…

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  51. barbisbest November 16, 2015 at 7:01 pm #

    Sticks of TNT- How are you so sure that 9-11 was a Muslim perpetrated endeavor. I’m sure the hell not. It was a controlled demolition, no doubt, but that it was planned and carried out by Muslims is questionable. The items you have listed my have been carried out by Muslims, but, they were extremist Muslims. My nephew is Muslim and is not extremist. Okay, so maybe many Muslims are extreme, but not all. (Yes, some get it… like Kuwaitis were throwing babies out of incubators) So much is propaganda, it’s difficult to know. And, we could say, the indians were slaughtered by white Anglo-Saxon christians, and the Inquisition was carried about by so-called Catholic christians, and on we go.. And, it gets worse, this just in… Jerry Sandusky, Asst. coach for Penn State, who was convicted of molesting many young men, had his pension reinstated!!! The guy should have gotten the death penalty!!

    The summary is this, every person is capable of good and bad, and every group of people are capable of good and bad. With all the eons of cruelty and sadness was that one crystalline moment…..

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 8:23 pm #

      Yes, most don’t live up to Christ’s teachings, but at least it’s there as a sign or goal. On the other hand, many do live down to Mohammad’s. You’re doing the false equivalency thingy again. Can’t overcome your hatred of White Men. Wait until you and your sisters are ruled by Blacks or Browns. They you’ll appreciate us, but of course it will be too late then.

      • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 9:51 pm #

        And you know what Christ’s teachings are?

        If you were not so amusing you would be dangerous.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2015 at 1:47 pm #

          Yes, I’ve studied them quite a bit. I don’t live up to them but at least I don’t live down to Mohammad’s teachings. You’d be a good guy if you weren’t such a silly clown.

          • K-Dog November 17, 2015 at 11:02 pm #

            Well its good we amuse the piss out of each other then.

  52. capt spaulding November 16, 2015 at 7:12 pm #

    One of the biggest problems with the Democracy we have is, because of the freedoms we enjoy, the expectations of privacy from the govt., and all of the rest of the benefits of our society, all of this gives the advantage to the terrorist. When Saddam was in charge in Iraq, they didn’t have problems with terrorists, however, the govt. was in total control of the populace in all aspects of life. People who don’t like the Patriot Act are right. It gives the govt. too much power which will eventually be abused. There’s no easy answer to the problem. Give up your freedom in return for security. I don’t have the answer, does anyone else here have it? It’s a complex problem.

    • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 9:41 pm #

      They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
      Bejamin Franklin

      • capt spaulding November 17, 2015 at 8:35 am #

        I agree with you and Ben, but my question remains; what is the solution then?

        • bobinboiseid November 17, 2015 at 10:43 am #

          Well… we don’t live in a Democracy, it’s supposed to be a Representative Republic, but is actually a totally corrupt Oligarchy.
          About the only freedoms we have left are the choice between Coke and Pepsi, and we have no privacy from the government. They are monitoring all of our communications, financial decisions and movements. They are creating files on every American for later use to keep us in line, lest they expose our dirty little secrets.
          If any terrorist threatened the Oligarchs or their interests they’d be quickly neutralized.
          Terrorists are created, funded, and directed by the state being attacked most of the time.
          Saddam had a very big problem with the number one terrorist organization in the world, the USA.
          We should spend all of our energy reigning in, and dismantling our criminal government, next to the threat they pose, terrorism is nothing.

          • sprawlcapital November 17, 2015 at 11:50 pm #

            @Boise–

            I’m starting to sound like a one-note opera.

            For the umpteenth time, It’s rein in not reign.

  53. Dave in Pasadena November 16, 2015 at 7:15 pm #

    A while ago I submitted the statement below as a “reply” to the wrong comment. My apologies.

    How did the Bush Administration kick off the Iraq war in 2003? President Bush and his “vice,” Cheney, decided to “Shock and Awe” the Iraq people through the use of violence, dropping bombs and launching hundreds of cruise missiles on downtown Baghdad.
    Mister Webster declares that terrorism is the use of force or threats to demoralize, intimidate, and subjugate, especially such use as a political weapon or policy. To terrorize is to fill with terror, to coerce, make submit by filling with terror as by the use or threat of violence. By the very choice of the words “shock and awe” to describe the start of their misadventure, Bush and Cheney betrayed the real purpose of their enterprise — to terrorize another country that had nothing to do with 9-11. Perhaps if Uncle Sam stopped terrorizing the people of the Middle East, they might be persuaded to stop terrorizing others. Muslims are not the only terrorists. American “Christians” are doing a fine job of terrorizing.

    • sprawlcapital November 17, 2015 at 11:57 pm #

      Pasadena–

      In one of his books about 20 years ago, Stewart Udal, JFK’s Sec of Interior, referred to the firebombing of Tokyo in March 1945 as a terror bombing. That was the work of the US Army Air Corps.

  54. barbisbest November 16, 2015 at 7:29 pm #

    Dave in pasadena- unfortunately you are correct. Terrorism is terrorism, and War is Terrorism. Too true.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 9:12 pm #

      Yes, all wars are the same. Just surrender and become Muslims. Women have no problem with any of this. Barbarians excite them as long as they’re not White.

      • bobinboiseid November 16, 2015 at 9:45 pm #

        As Michael Moore once said about black people…
        I’ve never been harmed by a black man, only by whites, they scare the hell out of me. When I see one coming I cross the street to get out of the way.

        • BackRowHeckler November 17, 2015 at 12:41 am #

          Yeah, Michael Moore lives a pretty cloistered life in that Manhattan penthouse of his. Of course there is armed security at the main entrance. Apparently he’s never been a bit player in the ‘knockout game’. Incidentally, is Moore still making frequent trips to the Socialist Paradise of Venezuala? Or did that end when he heard things are so bad there that toilet paper isn’t available.

          • bobinboiseid November 17, 2015 at 12:24 pm #

            When a black man attacks, you get a bloody nose, when a white man attacks, you get robbed of all your money, possessions, freedom, and possibly even your life. I’m not talking about a mugging here, I’m talking about the vast majority of those in power being white, and what they do to you when you don’t play their game.

          • stelmosfire November 18, 2015 at 9:31 am #

            So true bobinboised, I guess I was not robbed in Ft.Lauderdale, FL with a revolver behind my ear! I lost my money, wallet, car keys and car. All by an innocent group of Black youts. When I called the cops( both responders black) they said what are you doing in this neighborhood? I was at a 7/11 on W Sunrise Blvd. How was I to know that I would be assaulted by a gang. I’ve travelled all over the USA and was never assaulted like this. I Believe the lingo was “Gi me Yo Wallt”!

  55. wpa_ccc November 16, 2015 at 9:09 pm #

    Since 9/11, Muslim-American terrorism has claimed 37 lives in the United States, out of more than 190,000 murders by non-Muslims during this period.

    The majority are murders by Christians. There is a positive correlation between Christians who attend church and murder rate. The state with the highest church attendance is Louisiana and Louisiana has twice the U.S. average murder rate. The whole U.S. Bible Belt has a significantly higher than U.S. average murder rate.

    It makes sense when you examine what is reversely related to church attendance: 1) educational level; 2) economic status; 3) social tolerance (acceptance of people that are “different”); 4) liberal viewpoints. You are in much more danger from Christians than Muslims in the United States.

    Do the math: 37 murders in the US by Muslim terrorists since 9/11 divided by 190,000 murders by non-Muslims.

    The Muslim murder rate in the US is: 0.0001947%, almost non-existent, which makes sense because Islam is a religion of peace.

    Christians got some ‘splainin’ to do. I cannot even list all the Christian terrorism and murders by Christians in the US. It would take up JHK’s bandwidth.

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  56. Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2015 at 9:19 pm #

    Black students outraged over the Paris attack – but not at the Muslims but rather the French. They hate that their movement has lost national attention in favor of Whites.

    http://www.dailystormer.com/black-lives-activists-whine-about-paris-attack-news-coverage-with-fckparis/

    Narcissistic Black Assholes.

    • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 9:47 pm #

      If you are talking France you have shit in your pants. They don’t have a movement to begin with, much less one in France.

      Who what where when why. Your link fails all standards of credibility. If you were not so amusing you would be dangerous.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2015 at 1:45 pm #

        Whoever said they have a movement in France? They’re condemning the French for taking attention away from them – just like any little shit would.

        Many have spoken of the “Black Lives Matter” movement. You fail there too.

        Are you trying to insinuate that they are doing good things here in America? Like running through the Dartmouth Library berating Whites with filthy language and racist insults?

        http://www.amren.com/

        I hope you get the help you need – racial therapy for guilt ridden Whites.

      • malthuss November 17, 2015 at 6:33 pm #

        http://dcjunkies.boards.net/thread/976/idiots-paris-attacks-stole-headlines?page=1

        Know what TNB stands for?

  57. Dumbedup November 16, 2015 at 9:43 pm #

    It isn’t hard to understand why all this is happening. There are radical elements within every group, but they generally remain small and insignificant unless you stir them up. We’ve been stirring up the Middle East over oil for 100 years and for religious reasons for 1000 years. The harder we fight the bigger and more radical they become. We can reverse it but only if we change our policies permanently. Then wait another 100 years or so. But our leaders are so vested in their petrodollar investments and in creating enemies to they can make us “safer” they can do nothing else but meddle.

    • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 9:48 pm #

      And you have 20/20 vision for you see the picture clearly.

  58. toktomi November 16, 2015 at 9:57 pm #

    “I ’m not persuaded that world opinion will ever ‘make sense’ of the Paris attacks.”

    “One thing seems assured: hard-line governments are coming soon.”

    “So many forces are in motion now and they are all tending toward criticality.”

    “None of this is good, either, for a global economy constructed around long, hyper-complex, and fragile chains of obligation, the most critical being global finance and global energy lines.”

    Yup!

    It’s beginning to feel like we’re twisting in a vortex somewhere between Kansas and a rabbit hole. There is probably very little to be gained in trying to blame anyone for anything at this point. It may be time to take a page out of the coyote playbook and simply make a quiet exit to safer pastures.

    • K-Dog November 16, 2015 at 10:50 pm #

      Blaming anybody would not accomplish anything anyway. That would be a waste of energy. Energy better spent trying to find that quiet exit. Things are FUBAR and like all the kings horses and all the kings men we can’t put it together again.

      Kansas, The Rabbit Hole, The vortex in between we are entering is called Dante’s Inferno and break time is almost over. It’s almost time to stand on our heads.

  59. wpa_ccc November 16, 2015 at 10:54 pm #

    In 2013, it was actually more likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than a terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon bombing. How many people did toddlers kill in 2013? Five, all by accidentally shooting a gun.

    It is not a safe place when you are around toddlers with guns. You would be safer in a Mosque in the US, with Muslim brothers and sisters.

    Actually, considering the number of murders by Christians of Christians that are committed inside churches (mass murder of prayer group, bombing of Black children, killing of a women’s health doctor in a church, etc.), churches are not safe places compared to Mosques.

    Pastor Ronald J. Harris Sr. was inside the Tabernacle of Praise Worship Center in Lake Charles at about 8:20 p.m. Authorities said Woodrow Karey, 53, walked into the building with a shotgun and opened fire. Harris was pronounced dead at the scene. (September 29, 2013)

    Stockton Church Urges Witnesses To Come Forward After Minister Killed By Stray Bullet

    Islam is a faith of nonviolence. Could you imagine if Islam was violent? With 1.6 Billion Muslims? Thankfully there were only 8 violent Daesh perpetrators in Paris. France’s 3 million Muslims were nonviolent.

    Before the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria had even claimed responsibility for the shootings and explosions that killed more than 120 in Paris on Friday night, Muslims around the world took to social media to condemn the perpetrators and defend Islam as a faith of nonviolence.

    Even if you consider the perpetrators to be Muslims, do the math. Eight false Muslims divided by 3 million real Muslims tells us just how nonviolent Islam in France is: 99.9999973333% of French Muslims were not shooting last Friday night.

  60. Q. Shtik November 16, 2015 at 11:03 pm #

    Whats her name and email? – Malthuss

    ================

    How old……
    ……and what’s her bra size? ;o)

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    • BackRowHeckler November 17, 2015 at 12:08 am #

      Susan Herbst, the closest thing in CT we have to a queen.

      except for Governor Malloy’s former Chief of Staff, a dude who, when he married another dude, dressed the part of a woman and wore a wedding dress. It was the big social event of the season, all the elite were there, a charming event.

      That’s your fukkin political leadership here in the Nutmeg State.

      brh

      • malthuss November 18, 2015 at 3:13 am #

        welfare queen

  61. wpa_ccc November 16, 2015 at 11:13 pm #

    I write “recent” because you have a bad habit of pointing back to the Inquisition, the Salem witch trials,[etc.] –Sticks of TNT

    Killings by white “Christian identity” terrorists in the US, like white supremacists, in the 21st century exceed those of “Muslim” terrorists in the US.

    MORE INCONVENIENT TRUTHS

    “More people in the U.S. have been killed in terrorist attacks perpetrated by white supremacists than Muslim extremists since 9/11, according to a new study.

    The researchers found that 28 people were killed as a result of white supremacist terrorism, while 26 have died in attacks by Muslim extremists. There were the same number of attacks driven by white supremacists and Muslim extremists—seven of each.

    Last week’s shooting at Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, in which white supremacist Dylann Roof killed nine people, is the latest terrorist attack studied by New America, a Washington D.C.-based think tank.

    The report is based on court documents, wire service, and news stories. It looks at “lethal terrorist incidents” with a clear ideological motivation since 2001. Forty-eight people were killed in 19 terrorist attacks by white supremacists, anti-government activists, and other extremists classified as “right wing.”

    That means that in total, the number of Americans killed by non-Muslim extremists since 9/11 is nearly twice the number killed by Muslim extremists, based on the New America study.”

    http://fusion.net/story/155989/report-more-americans-have-been-killed-by-white-supremacists-than-muslim-extremists-since-911/

  62. wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 12:00 am #

    6 Reasons to Welcome Syrian Refugees [into the United States] After Paris

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bier/syrian-refugees-paris_b_8577480.html

    Stop Islamophobia in CFN!

    Demonstrate moral courage!

  63. bigjac November 17, 2015 at 12:04 am #

    This is my very first comment here at Clusterfuck nation.

    I’ve been blogging over at Daily Kos for nine years.

    I only read one of Mr. Kunstler’s books,
    The Long Emergency.

    From many bits and pieces he wrote there,
    like a trail of crumbs in the wilderness,
    I found the answer to the question I had been asking myself for years:

    Is there a big disaster in the foreseeable future?

    And what will be the nature of that disaster?

    The answer I found was,
    yes,
    we have a big disaster coming,
    sometime around the year 2050,
    and the nature of that disaster is:

    All the oil wells of the world, collectively, run dry,
    which means a severe shortage of
    crude oil,
    and therefore a shortage of
    diesel fuel,
    and therefore a shortage of food,
    since the farmers of America use only diesel equipment
    for their large scale farming operations.

    I will now insert a series of links.

    First,
    a link to the book I’m writing as a series of Daily Kos blog entries.

    The title of my book is:

    Famine in America by 2050:
    200 Million Will Die

    http://www.dailykos.com/user/bigjacbigjacbigjac/history

    Next,
    I turn to the last paragraph of Mr. Kunstler’s post for today.

    Let me copy and paste the paragraph here:

    “None of this is good, either, for a global economy constructed around long, hyper-complex, and fragile chains of obligation, the most critical being global finance and global energy lines. You think the Paris attacks were bad? Just wait until a few maniacs lob some explosives at the giant Ras Tanura oil refinery and shipping terminal on Saudi Arabia’s Persian Gulf coast. Imagine if that happens in the middle of winter, when Europe is freezing. Do you suppose the Big Brains in the Pentagon think about that? The West itself, including America, is a circus of soft targets. The softest ones are between our ears.”

    I have never been outside of the USA,
    but I’ve heard that most of western Europe uses natural gas for heating their homes,
    a great deal of which they get from Russia.

    http://www.voanews.com/content/europe-looks-to-us-qatar-gas-to-reduce-reliance-on-russia-/1875871.html

    So,
    Mr. Kunstler may not be correct in thinking that creating a shortage of oil would create a heating problem in Europe.

    Now,
    Europe is a big place,
    and there may well be many parts or regions of Europe that, indeed,
    use oil for heating their homes and workplaces.

    But, as you see from that link,
    most folks talk and write about Europe as if the whole region
    depends on natural gas.

    I live in Kansas,
    where we have many natural gas wells in the region,
    Texas,
    Oklahoma,
    and Kansas,
    and we have natural gas pipelines all over,
    so most of us use natural gas to heat our homes,
    and our water heaters.

    I do not want to make a harsh accusation towards Mr. Kunstler
    an accusation of ignorance,
    an accusation of assuming others live like him,
    in this comment thread,
    thereby shitting in his house,
    and maybe getting myself kicked out of his site with my first comment,
    but I have information that suggests that Mr. Kunstler
    heats his home with oil.

    He lives in upstate New York,
    and folks in that part of the country use oil heaters,
    if I understand correctly:

    http://www.homeheatingoilprices.com/NY/Albany/

    And,
    I just looked it up.

    Remember the diesel fuel that is critical to food production?

    That is what Mr. Kunstler is using to heat his home,
    if he has an oil heater:

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081209143129AAFQBK3

    So,
    instead of causing cold shivering folks in Europe,
    the bombing of the oil refinery he writes about
    might cause a shortage of food.

    Once again,
    shortage of oil
    means shortage of diesel fuel,
    means shortage of food.

    To read more about this,
    here is another link to my book,
    not yet finished.

    The title is,
    Famine in America by 2050:
    200 Million Will Die.

    http://www.dailykos.com/user/bigjacbigjacbigjac/history

  64. Q. Shtik November 17, 2015 at 12:20 am #

    not just a false flag, but a completely staged event where nothing really happened. – Janos

    ==============

    Like: the moon landing was staged in a Hollywood studio?

    I didn’t get that impression at all (that that is what bobinboise was suggesting and that that is how JHK took it). I think bobinboise came across as bit off the wall (tetched). He reminds me of guys I used to sit next to in my watering-hole days, watching fights on TV. They were certain that every boxing match ever fought was fixed.

    I do not accept that the fix is in on every thing in life and neither does Jim.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2015 at 1:59 am #

      Looking back, you’re right. I went off on my own moon trip there, though that is one school of conspiracy. Crisis Actors may be “real” but I agree: not in the case of Paris. No reason to think so. Nor any evidence that they thought so either. A complete mea culpa on my part. I am the umblest of the umble, governor. Can you spare a quarter for an old altar boy?

      • malthuss November 18, 2015 at 3:15 am #

        I saw a You Tube that convinced me 9 11 was an inside job.
        Too many eerie business connections there.
        Plus ‘people were told to go back into North Tower’, ‘planes not shot down’ ‘debris removed quickly’ and for you, Dov [the JEWISH] guy who ran the [Pentagon and money].
        Alex Jones has good video.

  65. FincaInTheMountains November 17, 2015 at 12:26 am #

    While the authorities in France are investigating the attacks in Paris, bumping into new pockets of criminals in Belgium and Lyon, the purpose of the attacks is already clear. If before the European countries in the US-led anti-terrorist coalition in Syria practically did not conduct independent strikes, acting as extras, then a day after the attacks the French Air Force suddenly dropped 20 bombs in Syria, as Cameron and Merkel announced their readiness to actively fight against the “Islamic state”.

    Europe is forced to ensure full presence of the NATO military structures in Syria, all the way up to the ground operation. If they fail, the attacks may occur in other European countries, as was helpfully reminded by Hollande.

    Next stage of global looming conflict – Syria turns into a point, which will bring together the most powerful armies of Eurasia. On the surface – in the guise of cooperation in the fight against Islamic State, in fact – probing each other capabilities and preparing for possible indirect local clashes.

    It has long been observed that the Middle East is becoming the Balkans of the 21st century, and recent events only confirm this.

    Islamic State is used as a fuse not for a regional conflict, but rather for worldwide collision (here’s idea of a worldwide caliphate), into which will be gradually drawn all the key players. But, in contrast to the eve of the First World War, none of the countries are in a hurry to become a victim and deliver millions of soldiers to the slaughter.

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  66. BackRowHeckler November 17, 2015 at 12:26 am #

    Secretary Kerry is in Paris, speaking French. He didn’t bring noted entertainer James Taylor with him this time. The question is, why not? One thing, its reassuring to know all Hollywood ##stand with the people of Paris Our hearts and prayers go out to you peace!! ##

    France is at war, but I’ve yet to see any mobilization like 1871, 1914, or 1940. What kind of war is this? All I see is wreaths piled up on blood soaked streets higher than the Pyramids, and more candles lit than in the Yankee Candle Shop up off Rte 10 in central Mass. No stacked arms, no trainloads of troops heading for the front, no rousing patriotic speeches … what the hell? these f-kkin frogs have lost before the the first battle has been fought. Where are the vaunted ‘Paras’, the fabled ‘French Foreign Legion’? In the first two months of WW1 at the battles outside Paris, collectively called the ‘Battle of the Marne’, France lost 250,000 dead. This time around they don’t seem willing to risk a single Battalion, tho it can be argued the stakes are greater.

    brh

    • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2015 at 2:05 am #

      You got it bad, brother. War Envy is a disease. It’s a whole new ballgame out there. Drones are just the run up to war robots and swarms of deadly mechanic insects as predicted in Revelations. On the other hand, have you really won until you have boots on the ground and on the heads of the vanquished? Able to hear the laments of their women? And surely you would fain comfort them, eh brother Cain? You are right: infantry is still the Queen – and will remain so even out among the stars.

  67. Q. Shtik November 17, 2015 at 12:27 am #

    “Anytime you look into any of these events it is not anything like you thought it would be. Titanic is a perfect example. “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”
    A damn CIA agent wrote the book “A Night to Remember,” 40 years after the event. But even a cursory look at the evidence and you find it was probably not even the Titanic that sank, but her sister ship Olympic which had been irreparably damaged in a collision with a warship. Seismic analysis cannot find the infamous 300 foot gash. Doesn’t exist. Only 6 people saw the iceberg, 2 of which were crew. The whole story is riddled with inconsistencies. The crew was sworn to secrecy.The commission that investigated it was as bad as any to date. Look at the USS Indianapolis. It supposedly delivers the atomic bomb, and then is sent to sail the lonely waters. They tried to kill everyone on that ship. What did they see?” – seawolf

    ================

    Wow!

    Bobinboise can’t hold a candle to Seawolf for off-the-wall.

    • bobinboiseid November 17, 2015 at 12:27 pm #

      “Off the wall” meaning ‘not as seen on TV’?

  68. Q. Shtik November 17, 2015 at 12:48 am #

    the culprits behind terrorism in Paris; – BRH

    ==============

    I think it was Pope Francis and the College of Cardinals ;o)

    • BackRowHeckler November 17, 2015 at 3:49 am #

      C’mon Q, you’ve been on this site long enough to realize everything bad that has happened in the world since the fall of Rome in the 5th century is a ‘False Flag’ operation initiated by either Israel, the GOP, or the CIA. Sometimes they team up and pull something off really big, like the sinking of the Lousitania, 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.

      brh

  69. wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 1:26 am #

    “Twenty years ago, the United Nations adopted this day — the 16th of November — as a time for renewing our commitment to tolerance. As UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon rightly stated in 2011, “Our practice of tolerance must mean more than peaceful co-existence, crucial as that is. It must be an active understanding fostered through dialogue and positive engagement with others.”

    It is crucially important, now more than ever, that we practice not just tolerance, but this active tolerance Ban Ki-Moon describes. Passive tolerance is simply not enough given the struggles our world faces today, especially with highly engaged and active extremist groups seeking to spread messages of intolerance, hate, and violence.

    What is “active” tolerance? It means bringing people together across conflict divides; closing communication gaps that breed ignorance, distrust and fear; breaking down stereotypes; and fostering new relationships founded on deeper understanding, acceptance, respect, and trust. It means more than simply just accepting the existence of other groups with different norms, language, religion or beliefs, and instead interacting with them, learning from them, and using those differences to create a strong, peaceful, and thriving society.”

    –Feisal Al Hussein
    Founder and Chairman of Generations For Peace

  70. Buck Stud November 17, 2015 at 1:40 am #

    “The bullet from half a mile away up on Choctaw Ridge is the ticket.”–Janos

    Speaking of that–and terror–do you recall John Allen Muhammad, the post 9/11 sniper? There was also a sniper taking shots at passing cars on a Colorado interstate recently.

    You’re right; the long range rifleman can wreak a lot of havoc, especially of the mental/emotional/fear variety. I don’t see it happening in Europe but in this U.S there are plenty of itchy triggers salivating for what they believe to be righteous retribution otherwise known as ‘payback time’.

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  71. Buck Stud November 17, 2015 at 1:52 am #

    “Read “Milestones” by Sayyid Qutub. Not you, but anyone who really wants to know what they believe.”

    I have read him and also found it fascinating that he was a college student in 1948 Greeley Colorado in the aftermath of WW2. One observation that I found interesting was the following:

    ”This small city of Greeley, in which I am staying, is so beautiful that one may easily imagine that he is in paradise. Each house appears as a flowering plant and the streets are like garden pathways. As one observes, the owners of these houses spend their leisure time in toil, watering their private yards and trimming their gardens. This is all they appear to do…”
    ”I stayed there six months and never did I see a person or a family actually enjoying themselves, even on summer nights when breezes waft over the city as if in a dream. The most important thing for these people is the tending of their gardens, much in the same way a merchant spends time organizing his store or a factory owner his factory. There is nothing behind this activity in the way of beauty or artistic taste. It is the machinery of organization and arrangement, devoid of spirituality and aesthetic enjoyment.”

    ”Everywhere there are smiles and everywhere there is a fun and on every corner hugs and kisses. But never does one see contentment on a person’s face. There is no indication of satisfaction in anyone’s heart.”
    ”Life is comprised of constant worry, constant work, constant yearning, the constant quenching of thirst and the effort to be on time.”

    http://www.5280.com/magazine/2003/06/al-qaeda%E2%80%99s-greeley-roots?page=full

    • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2015 at 2:24 am #

      I cannot disagree. I have always perceived us to be exactly like that. I am the blackest of black sheep in this regard. Black like the Black Sun at the centre of creation. But Black only to eyes that cannot perceive the light. I am an Elgin Marble, sprung to fantastic life from the Tomb of Non-Being known as 9-5.

      He also was outraged and scandalized by the way women dressed. Interestingly enough, he eschewed the Arab capacity for leisure, feeling they should be up and doing, with Jihad as the epitome of masculine Muslim life. He also took umbrage at all lesser ideas of the Arab conquest, such as the fatuous idea if was self defense or the ignoble idea it was done for worldly gain. No! It was to spread Islam. Men don’t have to convert, but they have the Right to live under Divine Law – whether they know it or not or will it or not. And it is the absolute Muslim duty to offer it to them or impose it on them, no matter as long as they get it.

      He is free of the flowery and oblique language that traditional Muslims love – and which I’ve acquired a taste for. He has a strong, clear, logical, modern style. And in the King’s Good English he proclaims: Islam is spread by the Sword.

  72. wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 3:15 am #

    “kick some ass” “put boots on the ground” “annihilate muslims” blah blah blah

    You cannot “wipe out” ISIL. You put boots on the ground and they simply melt back into the population, just like the last time we were in Iraq. You can’t wipe out all your enemies.

    The surrounding countries have 5 million men under arms. The United States should NOT send its sons and daughters halfway around the world to die. Rand Paul understands this. More importantly, Obama, and Obama’s military and civilian advisor’s understands this. An America presence there only serves ISIL as a recruiting tool to grow ISIL.

  73. FincaInTheMountains November 17, 2015 at 4:12 am #

    CONFIRMED: Kremlin Says Bomb Brought Down Russian Plane

    Russian A321 plane was blown up by homemade explosive device equivalent up to one kg of TNT, Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) chief Alexander Bortnikov said.

    “In the estimates of our specialists, a self-made explosive device with its power of up to 1 kilogram in TNT equivalent went off aboard the airliner, due to which the plane broke up in the air and this explains the spread of the plane’s fuselage parts over a large distance,” the Federal Security Service chief said.

    The FSB is offering a $50 million reward for information about those responsible for the plane crash.

    http://russia-insider.com/en/breaking-kremlin-says-bomb-brought-down-russian-plane/ri11220

  74. FincaInTheMountains November 17, 2015 at 4:19 am #

    Putin about terrorists who blew up the A321: We will find them and punish

    This crime will not be a subject to statute of limitations, the Russian President said. He stressed that those responsible for the crash of the Russian airliner would be found anywhere in the world.

    http://ria.ru/incidents/20151117/1322620905.html

    Pretty sure that he already knows where they are.

  75. FincaInTheMountains November 17, 2015 at 4:48 am #

    By accented strikes against al-Nusra in the last 6 weeks, Russia has deprived the West the opportunity to maneuver between ISIS and Nusra militarily. It makes no sense to rely on al-Nusra anymore and West agreed to include al-Nusra on the list of “radical terrorists”, along with ISIS.

    There are going to be rapid developments in Syria. In military terms, the Western coalition can rely only on the structure of NATO or Security Council. Both take time, somewhere around a week, even if the US will rush. After that there is another week or two to deploy. Total 2-3, but rather 3 weeks before the start of something on a real big scale.

    Given the fast pace of Assad army’s offensive to the north-west of Aleppo, in three weeks the opposition in Damascus will be easy a ghost of its past greatness. They will have to bomb Iraq, and not Syria. And more support Kurds than Free Syrian Army. That is, the conversation will not be so much “about Syria,” as about Iraq and Kurdistan. That is, the conversation will be very unpleasant for the Turks.

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  76. FincaInTheMountains November 17, 2015 at 5:11 am #

    Putin: We have established that ISIS financing is coming from 40 countries, including G20 countries

    We discussed the need to implement the relevant UN Security Council resolution, which was adopted on Russia’s initiative, on preventing financing of terrorism, unlawful trade in objects of art after terrorists pillage museums in the territories they seize, and unlawful sale of oil and petroleum products and earnings from this sale.

    I also showed our colleagues satellite images and aerial photographs that show very clearly the scale of this illegal trade in oil and petroleum products. You see columns of refuelling vehicles stretching for dozens of kilometres in lines so long that from a height of 4,000–5,000 metres they vanish over the horizon. It really looks more like an oil pipeline system.

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50704

  77. FincaInTheMountains November 17, 2015 at 7:54 am #

    China welcomes IMF backing to make yuan world reserve currency

    China on Saturday welcomed backing from IMF experts that the yuan should be included in its reserve currencies, saying the move would strengthen the world’s financial system.

    Now the world’s second-largest economy, China asked last year for the yuan to be added to the elite basket of SDR currencies, but until recently it was considered too tightly controlled to qualify.

    It now looks likely the yuan will be formally admitted to the IMF’s “special drawing rights” currency basket at the end of the month, which would mark a milestone in China’s efforts to become a global economic power.

    IMF chief Christine Lagarde said the fund now deemed the yuan “meets the requirements to be a ‘freely usable’ currency” — a key hurdle to joining the yen, dollar, pound and euro as a leading unit in international trade.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3318188/IMF-experts-recommend-inclusion-Chinese-yuan-elite-currency-basket.html

    One of the real reason of current event acceleration. Central Banks around the world will now start buying Yuan for their currency reserves, and, probably selling dollars.

  78. FincaInTheMountains November 17, 2015 at 9:46 am #

    Russia delivered massive air strikes in Syria

    Strategic bombers Ty-160, Tu-95MS and Tu-22 were brought into action. The massive Russian Air attack has allowed Syrian forces to take the offensive on all fronts.

    http://ria.ru/syria/20151117/1322887932.html

    Apparently, Russian bombers are delivering strikes without leaving Russian air space using cruise missiles. Pretty impressive show of force.

  79. PeteAtomic November 17, 2015 at 9:51 am #

    The West refuses to get serious with Islamic terrorism– in as far as to refuse to acknowledge that there are fundamental issues between Western democratic life & the doctrines of Islam itself. Pres.Obama refuses to even name the enemy. It’s more than just ISIS, it’s fundamentalist Islam which dominates much of the M.E.
    The Left in the US and elsewhere argues ISIS talking points for them; the US is an imperialist power waging Crusader war on the M.E.

    So, in this type of toxic atmosphere, how will anything real get achieved? I’d argue absolutely nothing.

    • Buck Stud November 17, 2015 at 11:29 am #

      They are many “liberals” (or at least those who believe in economic justice) who believe President Obama’s vow to take the fight to ISIS in conjunction with allowing ‘Syrian refugees to enter the country to be a huge and potentially dangerous contradiction: Incoherent, if you will.

      There is a huge opportunity for the politician with courage and will to spurn the peripheral special interests of their respective parties and unite formerly disparate political factions. Trump, may be the one closest to achieving that possibility. I often read liberal blog commentators mention that Trump is not altogether ideologically repellent. For instance, in the past Trump has made mention of the viability universal assess to health care and the deleterious ramifications to American workers in regard to unrestrained outsourcing.

      On the Democratic side if there was only a politician willing to get sensible on unlimited immigration and quit listening to the lunatic wpa wing of the party who also, in their incredibly myopic foolishness, would make transgender rights a major campaign issue. There cannot be a vibrant middle class–and thus vibrant country–with unlimited cheap immigrant labor access to the country.

      Right now Trump has to win the GOP primary hence the extremity. If he achieves that can he swing to the middle and start undoing years of Limbaugh ‘for the one-percent’ propaganda and convince main street republicans that there really is ‘something wrong in Kansas’ economically speaking ? I have my doubts. As Ronald Wright asserted, ““socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

      How can a Trump convince brainwashed American’s who believe that they too can be the next Bill Gates if only they word hard enough that such a notion is mathematical impossibility and thus irrational? And how can he do it without squelching the will to at least try to become one’s best and thus descend into apathy?

      In short, how can a Trump ever convince a nation of ‘by thy own boot-strap’ believers that true nobility, metaphorically speaking, is also the individual instrument content in it’s role as accompanist in the greater harmonic orchestra and not as the cacophonous renegade note asserting individual prominence?

      Ideed, how can a Trump ever make an authentic appeal to economic populism when he himself has been the epitome of ‘ Trump himself, lays special claim to the latter?

    • Buck Stud November 17, 2015 at 11:40 am #

      They are many “liberals” (or at least those of the economic justice variety) who believe President Obama’s vow to take the fight to ISIS in conjunction with allowing Syrian refugees to enter the country to be a huge and potentially dangerous contradiction: Incoherent, if you will.

      There is a huge opportunity for the politician with courage and will to spurn the peripheral special interests of their respective parties and unite formerly disparate political factions. Trump, may be the one closest to achieving that possibility. I often read liberal blog commentators mention that Trump is not altogether ideologically repellent. For instance, in the past Trump has made mention of viable access to universal health care and the deleterious ramifications to American workers in regard to unrestrained outsourcing.

      On the Democratic side if there was only a politician willing to get sensible on unlimited immigration and quit listening to the lunatic wpa wing of the party who also, in their incredibly myopic foolishness, would make transgender rights a major campaign issue. There cannot be a vibrant middle class–and thus vibrant country–with unlimited cheap immigrant labor access to the country.

      Right now Trump has to win the GOP primary hence the extremity. If he achieves that can he swing to the middle and start undoing years of Limbaugh ‘for the one-percent’ propaganda and convince main street republicans that there really is ‘something wrong in Kansas’ economically speaking ? I have my doubts. As Ronald Wright asserted, ““socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

      How can a Trump convince brainwashed American’s who believe that they too can be the next Bill Gates if only they work hard enough that such a notion is a mathematical impossibility and thus irrational? And how can he do it without squelching the will to at least try to become one’s best and avoid descending into a hopeless apathy?

      In short, how can a Trump ever convince a nation of ‘by thy own boot-strap’ believers that true nobility, metaphorically speaking, is also the individual instrument content in it’s role as accompanist in the greater harmonic orchestra and not as the cacophonous renegade note asserting individual prominence?

      Indeed, how can a Trump ever make an authentic appeal to economic populism when he himself has been the epitome of the cacophonous ‘renegade note’ ?

      • Buck Stud November 17, 2015 at 11:42 am #

        apologies for the double post…i hit a key too hard and strange stuff happened.

  80. M. Bessette November 17, 2015 at 10:41 am #

    Re: wpa-ccc

    Sure you can marshal counter-intuitive terrorist stats, sweetness ‘n’ light rhetoric from above, and some crumbs of common sense found on Washington’s floor, but what does it all add up to? What relief can be had knowing that the forces of military aggression, economic imperialism, and deep-state intrusion grow more insistent from the very havoc they perpetuate?

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    • nsa November 17, 2015 at 11:37 am #

      To quickly arrive at the truth of a matter and cut through the bovis stercus, we here in Ft. Meade have adopted the very practical Roman idea of asking the simple question “Cui Bono?”.

      • nsa November 17, 2015 at 11:48 am #

        And what outfit comes up first on your short list of suspects? Yup, the zios and their christian useful idiot playmates……

      • wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 7:57 pm #

        “the very practical Roman idea of asking the simple question “Cui Bono?” –nsa

        Cui bono? Whatever ISIS does, the Republicans try to turn to their own advantage: to stop refugees, to close the borders and to increase defense spending. The Republican Party is the home of Islamophobes in the United States.

        Republicans want to vet all immigrants, including refugees, out the wazoo, but don’t apply the same standards to someone trying to buy a gun, even though more Americans were killed by toddlers than “Muslim” terrorists in 2013. Even though twice as many Americans are killed by “Christian” white supremacists than by “Muslim” brown terrorists. Yet we are supposed to fear Muslims.

        Who benefits from a fearful public? Republicans benefit from turning citizens against each other to prevent unions, to deny voting rights, to deny digital privacy, etc.

  81. FincaInTheMountains November 17, 2015 at 12:03 pm #

    ME confrontation between Russia and the US

    Until the fifties of the twentieth century, the British Empire and then its successor, the United States saw guarantee of their leading position in control of production and ways of delivery of energy, produced in the Middle East (mainly in the Gulf countries).

    The prevailing configuration today in the Greater Middle East is marked by dramatically strengthening of Russia’s position in Syria and Egypt. Iran essentially establishes an informal protectorate over much of Iraq. Finally, pro-Iranian rebels in Yemen effectively compete with Saudi coalition.

    If we carefully look at the map, we can see that the implementation of such a scenario, and if the United States will soften its position in Syria, the control by Russia and Iran (with allies) of the main routes of energy supplies from the Gulf countries will become almost inevitable.

    Under the Russian umbrella (deployed in Syria air defense and resurgent Mediterranean squadron) Egypt reliably controls the Suez Canal, and Syria – the potential route of the onshore pipelines to the Mediterranean coast. Iran at any time is able to block shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, and from the territory of Yemen, it gets a similar opportunity in the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. In addition, a single array of land allied countries from the Arctic Ocean to the Arabian Sea and from Baluchistan to the Libyan Desert completely excludes the possibility of uncontrolled oil and gas transit from Central Asia (to Europe, and to the warm seas).

    US refusal to fight in Syria will lead to the fact that their allies in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, who are already thinking about finding a new patron, immediately leave the former hegemon.

    This situation is fraught with not only the loss of foreign prestige and international weight. In this scenario, the United States is very likely (almost guaranteed) to expect strong economic, financial, and social and domestic political turmoil. The danger is so great that in comparison with what had happened in the late 80’s – early 90’s with the Soviet Union might seem a light breeze on a background of the storm.

    US will still attempt to play back the situation here. And, most likely, the aggravation will occur simultaneously with another explosion of the situation in Ukraine. And here it does not matter what Obama wants or does not want – he won’t be one to decide.

    American hawks have nowhere to retreat. As a result of many years of systemic errors, resulting in systemic fallacy of direction that they realize over the past two decades, the system, which they tried to conserve, went racing and is close to agony.

    http://ria.ru/analytics/20151117/1322923691.html

  82. Q. Shtik November 17, 2015 at 2:14 pm #

    I love Trump’s political INcorrectness but seriously, some of his so-called plans strike me as completely naïve… like this one:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/17/heres-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-with-syrian-refugees-instead-of-bringing-them-to-u-s/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Firewire%20-%20HORIZON%2011-17-15%20FINAL&utm_term=Firewire

    If the US couldn’t create “green zones” in Iraq and Afghanistan that were actually safe what makes him think that we can create “safe zones” in Syria for, say, a million people?

    • wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 2:34 pm #

      Trump and Carson are both performance artists building brand recognition for their personal aggrandizement. I am surprised anyone thinks they are serious candidates.

      Carson: I tried, I really tried, to kill someone.

      Trump: No, you didn’t, you are a liar.

      Trump and Carson are doing OK, but still have a ways to go to match Herman Cain.

      With a straight face Cain’s speeches incorporated Donna Summer song lyrics, the theme song for a Pokémon film, and children’s platitudes, and would have gotten away with it… except Rachel Maddow pointed out what was happening.

      Trump and Carson need to step up their game. Some innocent people, like Q., still take them seriously and don’t realize they are being duped.

  83. Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2015 at 2:17 pm #

    http://www.dailystormer.com/trump-refers-to-white-french-as-our-people/

    The Old Order is dying as well it should. It was a complete failure. It’s our time now.

    • wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

      LOL! Just a few years ago W’s supporters were insulting the French every which way… while they ate their Freedom Fries.

      Hermann Göring: Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.

      Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.

      Hermann Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

  84. wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 2:48 pm #

    The Pentagon cannot account for $2 Trillion dollars, that is 2,000 Billions of dollars. Government private contractors have “lost” 465,000 guns in Iraq and Afghanistan (probably now in the hands of ISIS). Should we given the Pentagon even more money?

    No. We should cut the armed forces budget in half, bring our troops home from bases around the world, and enforce strict defense budget monitoring to stop the Pentagon’s waste, fraud, bribery, and theft of our tax dollars.

    • capt spaulding November 17, 2015 at 3:28 pm #

      If I were in ISIS, or some other form of terrorist, I would capitalize on our overly welcoming attitude towards all other people, regardless of their views. I would play on our unwillingness to discriminate against anyone (unless they are white Christian males, of course.). I am neither left nor right nor red or blue, or Republican or Democrat. I would like to think that I am simply sane, & have common sense. Some people these days would deem this as “hate speech”, but that’s because they, themselves, are so tolerant and non-judgemental you see. (sarcasm off).

      • wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 5:55 pm #

        “I would capitalize on our overly welcoming attitude towards all other people, regardless of their views” — Capt Spaulding

        You don’t know much about immigration procedures, do you? Have you ever sat in on an interview with an immigration officer? (SOB’s make $60,000 a year to humiliate human beings.) I have had a front row seat to immigration judge behavior, as a translator. (SOB’s make $124,000 to $160,000 to humiliate human beings.)

        Your views (“welcoming” “all other people”) are very naive, based on fear… but your views (stemming from your fear and your white privilege) are incorrect.

        I wish your sarcastic view was correct, though. I wish there was less bureaucracy and less paperwork and less waiting time, less living in limbo in a state of anxiety. I wish immigration (of Mexicans, Muslims, and now Syrians) was an easier process, especially for those who are refugees from war. Anyone who has experienced war ought to understand that.

  85. fodase November 17, 2015 at 3:44 pm #

    more of wpa’s peaceful muslims, this time with an ambulance truck bomb in germany.

    let’s don’t rush to judgement, though

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3322536/Germany-friendly-against-Holland-cancelled-security-threat.html

    merkel was almost there for the fun times watching body parts fly about, after which she’d no doubt say we have to redouble our efforts to assimilate these people.

    other liberals would say we need to love the jihadis even more, and fight their guns with flowers

    one day, one day, a liberal fool leader will awake and realize the spell he/she has been living under

    when the White West awakens – and it is awakening, thank God! – there will be terrible retribution coming to these miscreants

    the end of the World?

    fodase

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    • Florida Power November 17, 2015 at 4:31 pm #

      Well now they’ve done it –messing with European Football. Up until now it’s been fairly ho-hum, but this…THIS! means war!

      Thanks for the DailyMail link. Check out those hot Hanover policewomen sporting HK MP5’s. Pat me down anytime — just keep your finger off that trigger.

      • wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 5:58 pm #

        “The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.” –Hermann Göring

        • Florida Power November 17, 2015 at 9:42 pm #

          I think you admire Goering. Not exactly sure what the incentive was for that quotation but now we hear that another venue in Hanover has had a show cancelled (pop music group) following a tip from French intelligence. Some bored North Africans apparently wished to show that they too can handle AK47’s and they too are just misunderstood peaceful religionists.

          Either we have entered the copycat phase or this time things really are different. Supposedly they are in the USA as well. You might want to consider wearing a head scarf.

  86. fodase November 17, 2015 at 6:12 pm #

    wpa you’re long on statistics and quotes, while muslims massacre the West

    fodase

    • wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 8:01 pm #

      There are around 16,238 murders per year in the United States; this averages out to around 44 murders per day. Guess how many were committed by Christians. Almost all of them. Islam is a religion of peace.

      • Sticks-of-TNT November 17, 2015 at 9:04 pm #

        You are making me afraid of going to church. I can handle the hellfire and brimstone, but now I have to worry about someone pulling out a knife or gun. I’m sure not closing my eyes during prayer.

      • Florida Power November 17, 2015 at 9:45 pm #

        You just keep on repeating that lie until you believe it. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

  87. fodase November 17, 2015 at 6:18 pm #

    nice to see some rational response to the worldwide problem of islam:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/we-are-monitoring-every-muslim-after-paris-attacks-claims-slovakian-pm-a6737851.html

  88. liber8tor November 17, 2015 at 7:15 pm #

    I want to believe that the Paris attack was a black mark in history, not a glimpse of the future.

    We need to bring our troops home and stop this horrible WOT. However, I am not expecting Washington to provide any leadership or courage.

  89. DA November 17, 2015 at 8:02 pm #

    Actually Jim, many in the world have already made perfect sense of the “attacks” in Paris, meant as they were to be a periodic update/reminder replica of 9-11, appropriately down-scaled of course for the admittedly more effete sensibilities of the European/Parisian viewing audience. Nice to see that you’re enlightened “commentary” here is, for the most part, all following their cues as dutifully instructed as well. Radical Muslims indeed! I think that most Americans would be best advised to cut out their eyes so that they could truly SEE again.

  90. Sticks-of-TNT November 17, 2015 at 8:50 pm #

    Ms. wpa_ccc, As your 1:26 am post earlier today indicated, yesterday you and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon celebrated “the 16th of November—as a time for renewing our commitment to tolerance” (since your post was after the fact, I missed out and you and Ban Ki are the only people I know of who got in on the celebration.) Insofar as Islam’s concerned, you and Ban Ki have your work cut out. Generally speaking, as a “religion of peace” (as you so frequently remind us) Islam’s record of tolerance and goodwill has not been good. With notable exceptions, such as your own “several hundred Muslim acquaintances” (who I assume are tolerant or you would not have “friended” them) they don’t have a reputation for being outstanding neighbors:

    Muslims live with Hindus and there are constant problems.
    Muslims live with Buddhists and there are constant problems.
    Muslims live with Christians and there are constant problems.
    Muslims live with Jews and there are constant problems.
    Muslims live with Sikhs and there are constant problems.
    Muslims live with Baha’is and there are constant problems.
    Muslims live with Shintos and there are constant problems.
    Muslims live with Confucians and there are constant problems.
    Muslims live with Atheists and there are constant problems.

    However, the biggest problem occurs when Muslims live with other Muslims. And because Muslims hate living with other Muslims:

    They’re not happy in Gaza.
    They’re not happy in Egypt.
    They’re not happy in Libya.
    They’re not happy in Morocco.
    They’re not happy in Iran.
    They’re not happy in Iraq.
    They’re not happy in Yemen.
    They’re not happy in Afghanistan.
    They’re not happy in Pakistan.
    They’re not happy in Syria.
    They’re not happy in Lebanon.
    They’re not happy in Nigeria.
    They’re not happy in Kenya.
    They’re not happy in Sudan.

    However, it seems…

    They’re happy in Australia.
    They’re happy in India.
    They’re happy in England.
    They’re happy in Belgium
    They’re happy in France.
    They’re happy in Italy.
    They’re happy in Germany.
    They’re happy in Sweden.
    They’re happy in Norway.
    They’re happy in the USA.
    They’re happy in Canada.

    To summarize, it seems they’re happy in almost every country that is not Islamic. (At least that’s where they want to go and stay.) And yet, many of them hate these countries and blame these countries for their problems. And since the rest of their Islamic brethren aren’t doing much about it, at some point, the citizens of the world are going to wake up and say, “You know what, we’ve had enough. Now WE are not happy. Stay in your country. We simply don’t want you here.” And then we’re going to elect officials with resolve who will commit to enforcing that mandate and stop acting like they don’t know what the problem is or who to blame. That goes for you, too, Ban Ki.

    Sticks-of-TNT

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    • Q. Shtik November 17, 2015 at 9:55 pm #

      Muslims live with Christians and there are constant problems. – Sticks

      ==================

      The day after “Paris” (the new shorthand for yet another atrocity) a dozen of us gathered at the home of my wife’s best bud, Ghislaine, and her husband John for a dinner party. Ghislaine’s 87 year old mother was there. She is French and grew up in walking distance of “the concert center.” She told us in French how she remembered her mother saying “the Arabs.” I said “Josie, I don’t understand.” She translated and explained that it was simply those two words but said with great contempt: $#@ the Arabs !#$@. I asked “but why the contempt?” She said “they won’t assimilate.”

      Sounds familiar, doesn’t it. Won’t, can’t and don’t.

      • Sticks-of-TNT November 17, 2015 at 11:07 pm #

        As my Southern bride would say, “Bless her heart!”

  91. Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2015 at 9:01 pm #

    Illuminating analogy: Every day a delivery man delivers snakes into your mail box. Some are poisonous, some aren’t. You try to get rid of them but every day more come in. Finally one of the poisonous ones bites your son and he dies. You complain but the delivery guy just says he’s doing his job. You find out who employs him and the guy says loftily, “Not all the snakes are poisonous” – and seems very angry that you have the temerity to question policy. In any case, nothing is going to change. Snakes are good. More snakes are better. It’s policy, ok? Don’t like it? Then leave.

    http://www.dailystormer.com/muslims-or-middlemen-a-guide-for-nationalists/

    • Sticks-of-TNT November 17, 2015 at 9:09 pm #

      CFN would not be the same without you Janos. I don’t always agree but I never skip any of your posts. You are a hell of a smart guy. Peace.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2015 at 7:01 pm #

        Tanks! I do my best.

  92. MisterDarling November 17, 2015 at 9:25 pm #

    @ Ozone (re; our Sunday exchange);

    || “Regarding who to ‘blame’: that would only matter in an environment where the culprits could be held accountable, but that ship has sailed, so now it’s down to just ugly, gritty pragmatism.”

    MD,
    ‘Fraid so. Maybe a lesson could be taken? Nah, leaving bloodthirsty megalomaniacs in charge of ‘foreign policy’ usually works out just dandy! Hey, somebody’s pulling shit out of our dumpsters; call the authorities…. whuzzat? …they *are* the authorities? Oopsie. ||

    This is essentially where we are: an absurd situation where the forces of the western world are led by a government of mass-wiretapping mass-kidnapping/torturers [*] whose president is jumping into his 7th war since receiving the Nobel Peace Prize.

    These are only well documented, thoroughly objective facts – established repeatedly in courts of law – yet nothing is done about it because there’s not Might strong enough at the moment to make it Right.

    There’s nothing about this that can or will square logically, yet we’re supposed to talk around the obvious. If you’re a G-man these days you simply have to *ignore* the fact that you report to people with all the moral authority of crack-dealers, and hope that it just ‘goes away’ on it’s own.

    And then there are real-world totally bat-shit ‘Reavers’ – like Daesh and Boko Haram – so it’s a choice of bad and worse, or simply a matter of ‘prioritizing your fire’ (a military term-of-art).

    In the end, I find myself thinking that this is the position every normal human being in a collapsing system finds themselves: none of it makes sense and none of it can because IT IS in a state of collapse.

    — — —

    [*] whose agents and assigns have admitted that they’ve accomplished NOTHING in the defense against ‘terror’ by committing these human rights violations & atrocities.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-23/fbi-confirms-no-major-terrorism-cases-cracked-unconstitutional-patriot-act-phone-spy

    • Sticks-of-TNT November 17, 2015 at 10:39 pm #

      MD,

      ZeroHedge is such a great site. You link with them frequently and I always read the articles. As I do with you, I nearly always agree. I also like your cartoon friends. Good stuff! Thanks…and Cheers!

      Sticks-of-TNT

      P.S. In particular, your knowledge of economics, as well as world history, is most extraordinary. I appreciate your insights.

      • MisterDarling November 18, 2015 at 1:52 am #

        Thanks Sticks!

        Your kind words are appreciated. ZeroHedge has proven to be a sure source of wit and incidental wisdom in these turbulent times. Regarding ‘Rick & Morty’: it works for me like an industrial-strength stress break.

        Cheers!

        • bobinboiseid November 18, 2015 at 12:51 pm #

          Zero Hedge is about the only honest news site left these days, everything else is just infotainment, with the info being mostly state propaganda.

    • ozone November 18, 2015 at 8:49 am #

      “There’s nothing about this that can or will square logically, yet we’re supposed to talk around the obvious.”

      (For proper context, see MD’s full post above.)

      Aye, MD, there’s the rub. …That we’re supposed to trust psychopaths to act in our “best interests” and that we support their operations with our tax contributions and votes [of confidence]. If we were privileged to listen in as they conspire and put together their outrageous plots, I believe most would be jailed or hanging in places of public view in very short order. I really believe that most of us non-psychos would be repulsed and enraged enough to put a stop to these monsters.

      ….But, yes, that’s also why we’ve been carefully (and subtly) taught and urged to “talk around the obvious”; wouldn’t want to be branded ‘unpatriotic’ or ‘other’ by the decider-ers, now would we?

      • ozone November 18, 2015 at 9:06 am #

        ….and it’s also reasonable that the secrecy of their repellent operations of coercion and murder get deeper and deeper as the consequences creep nearer and nearer.

        I suppose we can take it as a given that the public would rather not know what’s done in their name; thus the close focus on teevee and distractionary devices. Could there be a nagging tickle of a bony finger that must be subsumed/ignored, lest madness born of horror and revulsion rush in? One further problem with that: Reality ignored is reality made more terrible.

  93. MisterDarling November 17, 2015 at 9:28 pm #

    For your ‘Edu-tainment’:

    A Brief History of Meth, Narrated by Val Kilmer

    youtube.com/watch?v=lSEqkDo2GIk

    (This applies to Daesh and their reliance on Captagon to assist them in making decisions).

    😉

  94. MisterDarling November 17, 2015 at 9:30 pm #

    If you’re having atrocity fatigue, this may help:

    youtube.com/watch?v=qDr9axb7X7E

    “Krombopulous Michael”? Hmm, why do I seem to recall meeting this guy somewhere?

    [ jk ]

    Cheers!

  95. wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 9:48 pm #

    Indonesia is 87.2% Muslim; largest in the world (Pew Research on World’s Muslim population)

    Indonesia is the happiest in the world (2014 IPSOS Global Happiness Report)

    Happiest Muslim majority in the world: Indonesia.

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    • Sticks-of-TNT November 17, 2015 at 10:50 pm #

      Great! We have a place to send them. How many do they want?

      • wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 11:32 pm #

        They should come here. That is one way we defeat ISIS, by demonstrating that our values are different, that we welcome the Muslim refugees from Syria, whereas ISIS is killing Muslims. I am glad President Obama understands this and has called for accepting more Muslim Syrian refugees into the United States. They should get full and immediate citizenship. We should accept up to 10 million to match the 10 million peaceful Muslims we already have in the United States.

      • MisterDarling November 18, 2015 at 1:23 am #

        LOL! That’s an interesting proposition. Unfortunately, I doubt that any of them would be “happy” in Indonesia because Indonesia is a psychotic, eco-cidal & genocidal hell-hole [*] run by a ruling elite that are Fascist in every sense of the word.

        Ever see ‘The Act of Killing’?

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375605/

        It contains long sequences of death squad members not only admitting to mass-murder, but laughingly bragging about it – and they are revered as model citizens and village elders (and therefore local law-makers & adjudicators under Indonesian law). That’s the ‘happiness’ of Indonesia. A place where the Pol Pot’s of the world won – with the military and financial backing of the US.

        — — —

        [*] Jakarta’s streets flood with sewage for weeks at a time every year and nothing is done, why? Because fascism, that’s why. God save us all from the ‘happiness’ of idiots.

  96. Pucker November 17, 2015 at 9:49 pm #

    John D. Rockefeller’s first business venture: John D. as a child followed a wild turkey hen through the forest to its nest. He then stole the chicks and then raised them for sale and eggs. Most kids would have instinctively hunted and killed the turkey hen, but John D. saw its greater value as an egg and turkey chick maker. It’s got nothing to do with “White Privilege”. John D. had to shoulder a lot of family responsibility growing up to compensate for his father’s irresponsibility.

    • malthuss November 18, 2015 at 3:09 am #

      Yes, I have a big book on him. I have not read all of it.

      ‘Titan.’

  97. wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 11:13 pm #

    10,000,000 (ten million) Muslims live in the United States following Islam, a religion of peace. Number of “Islamic terror attacks” on American soil in 2015. Thank you, President Obama.

    1 divided by 10 million equals … oh, you do the math. The answer is always the same: Islam is a religion of peace.

    10 million peaceful American Muslims are the proof.

    • beantownbill. November 17, 2015 at 11:46 pm #

      In any system, there are doers and there are followers. Just because a only a handful of people conducted terroristic attacks, that doesn’t mean there aren’t thousands or millions of sympathizers who would perpetrate terrorism if they only weren’t followers instead of activists.

    • malthuss November 18, 2015 at 3:10 am #

      How many rapes, murders, child molestation’s and ‘working the system’ crimes?
      1000s? 100,000? million?

  98. Pucker November 17, 2015 at 11:24 pm #

    In the aftermath of the Paris attacks, videos in France started appearing of Muslim girls advocating peace and tolerance. Unfortunately, the Muslim girls have a tot,,Ali,,tar..Ian drab uniform appearance with their hair and bodies covered up. WTF!!!! They are a cultural contradiction, and contradictions must inevitably be resolved.

  99. wpa_ccc November 17, 2015 at 11:42 pm #

    There are no safe places? Actually the world is a safer place this century than the last century:

    “What you have to do, of course,” Pinker explains, “is count the number of wars, count the number of people killed in war, plot the trend over time. That’s how you get a picture of whether the world has become more, or less, violent. It’s the only way to get such a picture.”

    Pinker points out that during World War II, the human population lost 300 of every 100,000 people each year. During the Korean War it was in the 20s, before dropping into the teens during the Vietnam era. In the 1980s and 1990s, it fell into the single digits. For most of the 21st century it’s been below one war death per 100,000 people per year.

    There has been an uptick globally as a result of the civil war in Syria, doubling from 0.5 per 100,000 to 1. But Pinker says “you can’t compare 1 with 15 or 25 or 300.” Everywhere else in the world, the stats are still trending downward. The same is true for homicides.

    • beantownbill. November 18, 2015 at 12:05 am #

      In order for this analysis to be meaningful, one must account for what was happening during the time periods. For instance, during the first 14 years of the 20th century, there were no world wars, and although I don’t have the figures, I’d bet the violent death rate was pretty low then. I also would imagine the death rate would be lower between the world wars, as well. it’s a little disingenuous comparing how much more safe the world is now since the 21st century is now only 15 years long, compared to the 20th century being 100 years in duration.

      Wait a few years and see if world war 3 comes along. If so, I bet the violent death rate would soar higher than it has ever been. If the war were to go nuclear, the rate would be close to 6 figures per 100,000 people.

      • Sticks-of-TNT November 18, 2015 at 12:53 am #

        Amen/Fist Bump, Bill!

        P.S. You’ve heard the old, “Figures lie and liars figure.”
        Two very helpful books added to my library years ago. If
        Amazon sells Kindle versions, I may have to buy them again:
        “How To Lie With Statistics”
        by Darrell Huff (1954/1982/1993) &
        “A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper”
        by John Allen Paulos (1995)

        Sticks

        • wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 1:06 am #

          “Amen/Fist Bump, Bill!”

          That is all you have. A religious expression, a ghetto gesture, and an emotional exclamation mark. Where’s the data?

          War and Peace after 1945–Our World in Data

          http://ourworldindata.org/data/war-peace/war-and-peace-after-1945/#rate-of-battle-deaths-in-state-based-armed-conflicts-by-type-of-conflict-1946-2013-max-roserref

          With 10 million Muslims living in the United States, why are there not daily violent mass attacks by Muslims?

          Because Islam is a religion of peace. The data support my assertion.

          • Florida Power November 18, 2015 at 8:27 am #

            OK OK… I’l talk…
            So Islam is a religion of peace.
            But Islam tends not to assimilate with Western Culture. The experience in Europe argues this fact. Islam accommodates even less the extremes of Western PC leftism having to do with gender especially. This is not a value judgment. They just want to have nothing to do with most of us.

            There is this ideal known as the “Rule of Law” that evolved in the West and is one of those cultural values worth preserving. Maybe it is honored more in the breach than the observance in these days of crony capitalism and justice-for-sale, but nevertheless it is an ideal and even today makes an occasional appearance. The concept of an abstract rule of law as opposed to a panel of wise men — and I emphasize men — delivering a ruling ad hoc is a desirable evolutionary advance. This observation is not mine but that of an Iranian engineer on whom I call and who was raised Muslim (now atheist).

      • wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 12:59 am #

        So, beantown, make the comparison fair, by comparing periods of equal length during which we had a similar level of weaponry and technology, in other words the last 15 years of the 20th century and the first 15 years of the 21st century, an equal time period, with equal levels of technology of death available. Would you not agree that is a fair comparison, given the immediacy of chronological adjacency?

        The 21st century is demonstrably safer, with a death rate at least 5 times lower. You cannot argue with mathematics, beantown.

        “In the 1980s and 1990s, it fell into the single digits. For most of the 21st century it’s been below one war death per 100,000 people per year.”

        Your comparison of humans to monkeys is cute, but is not honest, not scientific, and not accurate. Do the math. Look at the evidence (see graph linked to below, of deaths per 100,000)

        War and Peace after 1945–Our World in Data

        http://ourworldindata.org/data/war-peace/war-and-peace-after-1945/#the-share-of-war-deaths-is-declining-even-faster

        Who are you going to believe? The 24/7 images shown over and over again on TV News? Or the dispassionate scientific data, with data sources and definitions clearly stated?

        We are not flinging nearly as much poo (measured by war deaths) the first 15 years of this century compared to the last 15 years of the last century.

        Levels of violence are DECREASING. Fewer people are dying.

      • MisterDarling November 18, 2015 at 1:08 am #

        Hello Beantown?

        You’re not assessing this from a total risk perspective are you? After all, prior to the md-20th Century humanity did not have the capability to wipe itself – and the planetary ecosystem – out with a few minutes of button pushing.

        Last year I had this discussion with this same entity (in different guise) and had to educate them about the way that RISK is actually calculated: Risk = quantifiable cost or damage * (the probability of the event happening).

        THEREFORE:

        1. If it’s 1000 B.C. and a couple of barbarian tribal bands (numbering 80 persons per band) arrive at the same lush & verdant valley at the same time, and we can assume (based on a number of similar observations) that there’s an 80% chance that they’ll fight a pitched battle to the death for it, the Risk (and Expected Value) of this situation = 0.80 (2*80) = 128 ‘asses on the line’ (men, women & children).

        2. Conversely, If it’s 2015 and there’s only a 1% chance of all-out nuclear war and the damage is potentially all of humanity, then Risk = 0.01(7 Billion) = 70 Million ‘asses on the line’ (or ‘cost’, or ‘damage’).

        So just ponder that for a moment: a risk of 128 versus 70 Million…

        In Scenario #1 whatever happens humanity not only lives to fight another day, they don’t even remember that the fight ever happened – which is why we exist today. In Scenario #2, there’s nothing left worth ‘surviving’ for. Then recall that this is just one of a number of ways humanity has already punished and/or doomed itself on a longer time-scale…

        We’re living in the deadliest time in the history of our species – and by extension – every other.

        I’m walking you through this __not__ because I think that you don’t already know it (at least intuitively). I’m doing it to make it crystal-clear to all and sundry that the person that you were replying to is talking out of their blowhole in such a ridiculous manner that they’re not worth engaging. The worst thing about it, is that said idiot recycles their failed arguments and forgets that that they do. It’s not just stupid, it’s tedious.

        Cheers!

        • wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 1:46 am #

          “So just ponder that for a moment: a risk of 128 versus 70 Million… In Scenario #2, there’s nothing left worth ‘surviving’ for.”

          More hyperbole which ignores mathematics and history and falsely compares two 80-member tribal bands in the first scenario, to the entire population of the world in the second scenario. The comparisons are not even using the same world population data set. Global population in 1,000 BCE was about 50 million, not 160.

          70 million deaths (which someone will call “legitimate kills”), and now there is “nothing worth surviving for”?

          … talk about exaggeration… Will the remaining 6,930,000,000 people just decide life in not worth living and commit suicide? You sell short human spirit.

          “they don’t even remember that the fight ever happened”

          You mean like the deliberate starvation of more than 500,000 Iraqi children in the 1990’s? Who remembers that? Who even knew it was happening 20 years ago? Who cared then? (besides OBL) Who cares now?

          “UNITED NATIONS, Nov. 30, 1995— As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization. The study also found steeply rising malnutrition among the young, suggesting that more children will be at risk in the coming years. The results of the survey will appear on Friday in The Lancet, the journal of the British Medical Association.

          Mao Tse-tung was responsible for well over 70 million deaths (which at the time was a greater percentage of the world’s population). Did humanity just decide life was no longer worth living? Your Risk argument is a failed argument.

          • sauerkraut November 18, 2015 at 12:28 pm #

            I think that MD’s point was a little different. You are certainly right in your catalogue of consequences of present day atrocity, and I suspect that MD would not disagree.

            His point, as I interpreted it, is different: the consequences of aggressive thinking. These can be examined by the tools of risk management. While not perfect, they do allow one to consider both probability and consequences at the same time.

            MD does not assert that a nuclear war would cause 70,000,000 casualties; he asserts that the Expected Value of the current state of affairs, or Aggression as Usual, is 70,000,000. That is an example only; he almost certainly means that the risk of nuclear war is one percent or more per annum, which means at least 70,000,000 casualties per annum as the expected cost of Aggression as Usual.

            Since that is a very high human cost, some would say unacceptably high, that is reason enough to stop doing what we are doing.

            His point about two primitive tribes is only to put to rest the silly argument that Aggression as Usual has served us well enough in the past. It is now terminally obsolete.

    • elysianfield November 18, 2015 at 11:12 am #

      Everywhere else in the world, the stats are still trending downward. The same is true for homicides.

      Yes, of course…except for homicides committed by toddlers…those bastards will kill us all if given half a chance.

    • Sean Coleman November 18, 2015 at 5:30 pm #

      I am very sceptical indeed of Pinker’s arguments. I haven’t read The Better Angels of Our Nature so I am relying on the summary of it in Wikipedia (which itself should be treated as caution, being the virtual embodiment of conventional wisdom). I did read his Language Instinct and found it convincing at the time but I have revised my opinon since and don’t.

      In the Language Instinct one of Pinker’s main targets was what he called the ‘language mavens’, a term I’d never heard of and describing arbiters of style. Looking at his profile (again from Wiki) it is now obvious to me, blindingly obvious in fact, that this fits in with progressive views on authority and tradition (ie it is opposed to them) and is clearly influenced by those liberal beliefs.

      It seems likely that Better Angels is a similar story. It endorses the view that everything is getting better because that is what the hugely dominant liberal consensus believes and wants to hear, and so it is not surprising that ‘the book was welcomed by many critics and reviewers, who found its arguments convincing.’ The way I look at things what comes first is the thesis and then it is a question of finding and arranging statistics to back it up. Look at the categories covered in his book as set out by Wiki.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker#Human_cognition_and_natural_language

      They include the belief that the rise of state power has prevented death and violence, the development of a fair criminal justice system, the ‘humanitarian revolution’ which did away with torture and execution and the drop in violence against minorities due to the imposition of ‘human rights’ (for ‘racial minorities, women, children, homosexuals and animals’.

      All of this is highly contentious to say the least (I don’t agree with most of it). For example, where you have a multicultural society you then need a very strong state and severe laws to keep the peace which is of course a infringement of freedom. The solution seems obvious: where you have a homogenous society avoid mass immigration.

  100. wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 2:29 am #

    “The reality is, The Islamic State (IS) loathes that individuals are fleeing Syria for Europe,” wrote Aaron Zelin, an expert on jihadist groups. “It undermines IS’ message that its self-styled Caliphate is a refuge, because if it was, individuals would actually go there in droves since it’s so close instead of … risking their lives through arduous journeys that could lead to death en route to Europe.”

    Zelin goes on to cite a dozen statements from Islamic State leaders warning refugees against heading to Europe or other “infidel” lands.

    Conversely, if Europe and the United States were to shut out Syrian refugees, they would be foregoing an advantage they have over the Islamic State group.

    The UN High Commissioner for Refugees found that “loss of hope and appalling living conditions” are motivating Syrian refugees to leave Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt for Europe. It’s easy to see, then, why shutting refugees out of the West could breed more extremism. Hampson says it is urgent that the West enable Syrian refugees to re-settle in places where they will be less vulnerable to radicalization.

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  101. Sticks-of-TNT November 18, 2015 at 4:07 am #

    “Amen/Fist Bump*, Bill!”

    (TNT expressing his approval* to fellow CFN citizen beantownbill for his excellent post–i.e., “Great post, Bill”)

    “That is all you have. A religious expression, a ghetto gesture, and an emotional exclamation mark.”

    (Ms. wpa-ccc’s indignant reply–apparently taking umbrage at Sticks method of congratulating, not her, but someone else.)

    So, in the future, in the unlikely event I respond to your post in a similar manner, I will amend as follows:

    No, for you, that is NOT all I have–“Amen/Fist Bump/Middle Finger!”
    A religious expression, a ghetto gesture, a universal sign of adoration, AND an emotional exclamation mark.

    Sticks-of-TNT

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    “Amen/Fist Bump!” and the greeting, “In the morning!” are used by the listeners, producers and supporters of my beloved podcast, the “No Agenda Show” (“The BEST Podcast in the Universe”) as VERY secret code phrases, in the manner of “Hello, Hiram” or “Whence come you and whither are you traveling?” are used by Free Masons, among uncertain company, as a way of determining if they are among kindred spirits.

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    • Sticks-of-TNT November 18, 2015 at 4:25 am #

      And thank you JHK for your indulgence in allowing (albeit, after the fact) this shameless plug. It was spontaneous, unplanned and unrehearsed. I’ll try hard to avoid it in the future. Amen/Fist Bump! ;>)

      -Sticks

    • wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 4:30 am #

      Besides the name calling and insults, is that all you’ve got?

      Where are the data? Ten million Muslims are living peacefully in the USA. You say Islam is not a religion of peace. So, where are the daily massacres being carried out… by Muslims … in the USA? There are no daily mass killings in America because Islam is a religion of peace. We need to open the borders to Syrian refugees.

  102. FincaInTheMountains November 18, 2015 at 5:37 am #

    The famous phrase of Vladimir Putin with promise “to stick terrorist’s heads down the shitty toilets”, delivered in 1999, captivated the French social networks. Members are massively sharing image with quote from the speech of the Russian president translated into French.

    http://politrussia.com/upload/resizeman/4/do-zhirafa-doshlo-575-4395272.jpg

    “Russian planes are striking in Chechnya solely on terrorist bases, and it will continue wherever the terrorists are. We will pursue the terrorists everywhere. At the airport – at the airport, in the toilet – in the toilet, pardon my Russian. We will stick their heads down the shitty toilets. That’s it, the matter is closed.”, – Putin said at the very beginning of his career as head of the Russian state.

    Recall, back in 1999, many French media called the Chechen Islamists “freedom fighters”, similar to calling some terrorists in Syria a “moderate opposition”.

  103. FincaInTheMountains November 18, 2015 at 7:27 am #

    We have two competing limited liability companies selling geopolitical “protection racket” around the globe: LLC US and LLC Russia.

    Competition is good for the market, right?

    Let the best man win!

  104. BackRowHeckler November 18, 2015 at 7:30 am #

    There’s more wreaths piled up on the streets of Paris than at the Christmas Tree Shop at the Buckland Hills Mall. Don’t you lay wreaths after the war is won, and the time has come to reflect and commemorate? Are Paras, French Marines, and the Foreign Legion enroute to the Levant at this moment to take the fight to the enemy? Or is dropping a few bombs from aircraft that aren’t even really bombers the extent of France’s ‘war on ISIS’.

    Incidentally, Russia has deployed heavy bombers, real bombers, the equivalent of out B-2s, in the skys over Syria.

    I never thought I’d see what I saw last nite on Charlie Rose, 2 NYTs reporters and a French philosopher criticizing Obama as ‘weak’, ‘indecisive’, ‘unfocused’ in his response to ISIS activities, and comparing him unfavorably to Putin. A page has been turned.

    brh

    • stelmosfire November 18, 2015 at 9:42 am #

      Hey BRH, just curious, what does France have that is an equivalent to a B-2? I myself prefer the B-1 after seeing one do a full burner take off in the twilight from Barnes airport. I think we should keep all this hardware home and close all our foreign bases. We basically live on an easily defensible island if we stop immigration now. I think 300,000,000 people are just about right.( if not too many). We don’t need no Stinkin’ Visas! My family were quarry workers and masons and built this country, starting in the 1880’s.

      • stelmosfire November 18, 2015 at 9:43 am #

        Sorry , I said France B-2’s, You referred to Russia. My mistake.

    • malthuss November 18, 2015 at 11:44 am #

      Obama as ‘weak’, ‘indecisive’, ‘unfocused’ in his response to ISIS activities,

      He welcomes his Muslim Comrades in, with open arms.
      Somewhere online there is a picture of him giving a hand signal to other muslims.

  105. FincaInTheMountains November 18, 2015 at 7:42 am #

    Syrians appreciate classical Russian art

    Especially the famous painting of Russian artist Alexei Savrasov, created in 1871: “The Rooks Have Arrived”

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/RooksBackOfSavrasov.jpg

    Sukhoi Su-25 Grach (meaning Rook; NATO reporting name: “Frogfoot”). It was designed to provide close air support for the Soviet Ground Forces. The first prototype made its maiden flight on 22 February 1975. After testing, the aircraft went into series production in 1978 at Tbilisi in the Soviet Republic of Georgia.

    Now supports Syrian army troops in their offensive against Al Nusra and Islamic State.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOaTEDYJmi0

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  106. fodase November 18, 2015 at 8:08 am #

    well wpa, welcome to peaceful france and germany after your beloved muslims have enriched it. bombs everywhere, atrocities….just typical everyday muslim practices, now turning a once great culture and civilization into the toilet these subhumans create wherever they infest

    now you can’t even walk in groups in germany for fear of attacks. here’s a cogent comment about this newest restriction on normal living that these filth bring with them due to their anti-human ways:
    ===========================================
    Don’t walk in groups?

    What’s next? All women should remain indoors. Don’t wear crosses. Don’t wear certain clothing. Don’t speak about Christ or Christianity. Say only positive things about Islam. Avoid anything that might offend these people who are invading our country.

    It’s hard to believe that a country as mighty as Germany has been reduced to this. Welcome to political correctness gone amok.

    =============================================

    thank you wpa, islam really is a religion of peace

  107. Florida Power November 18, 2015 at 9:18 am #

    More from The Religion of Peace files:

    /A moment of silence for the victims of the Paris attacks was booed by Turkish fans Tuesday during a friendly game against Greece, Reuters reported.

    Reuters reporter Ece Toksabay tweeted that the fans booed the minute of silence before breaking out into a chant of “Allah Akbar.”/

    I’m sure not all the Turkish fans booed. Only that tiny tiny portion — WPA: quick, what’s the typical statistic? — that does not represent True Islam, whatever the heck that is.

    Sorry WPA, there’s an invasion going on there and here. Gore Vidal wrote some years ago that when the denizens of the South “took control” of the world the North better hope that they get treated better than they historically treated the South. Looks like it ain’t working out that way. No fist bump.

    • wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 9:37 am #

      An invasion of your mind via the repetitive coverage of the actions of a dozen European fanatics presented 24/7 for five days now. There are 3,000,000 peaceful Muslims living in France. Do the math.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2015 at 2:41 pm #

      Turkey has always been part of Europe and should be let into NATO. After that, they’ll consider stemming the flow of refugees. Just ask Mr Darling – it’s probably gospel to him having received it from the higher ups. As the small dealers say in Burrough’s “Junky”, “The Connections say….”

  108. BackRowHeckler November 18, 2015 at 9:49 am #

    Eric Fanning
    Secretary of the Army
    USA

    Dear Mr. Fanning;

    First, let me congratulate you on being the first gay Secretary of the Army. It is a historic occasion. True, we here at ISIS routinely throw homosexuals off tall buildings, but that’s only to see if they can fly. So far they cannot, but we will keep experimenting anyway.

    What I am writing about is your decision to recruit young American women into the ranks of infantry and artillery in the Army. ISIS wholly agrees with these efforts, however, in the spirit of cooperation, we would like to offer you some advice, and guidelines. We at ISIS recommend these girls be about 21 years of age, with blond or auburn hair, blue or green eyes, about 125 pounds, long legs and full breasts. And a good set of teeth. We have determined those attributes make for the best kind of soldier, the kind we like to encounter on the battlefield, and then capture.

    Please give my regards to my 2nd cousin, and your commander in chief.

    Cordially,

    Mustafa, Akmed Obama
    Field Commander, Syria
    Islamic State

    • AKlein November 18, 2015 at 12:29 pm #

      BRH, is the Secretary’s name Fanning or is it Fanny? For some reason I am in a quandary. Probably not significant. In any case, the Field Commander’s letter is quite noteworthy. It some ways I am reminded of the Crusades, some of which were total disasters. The Muslims took many captives who ended up slaves. Fair-skinned northern Europeans were very much in demand. Gender, according to what I have read, didn’t matter too much to their captors.

  109. Buck Stud November 18, 2015 at 9:56 am #

    “I never thought I’d see what I saw last nite on Charlie Rose, 2 NYTs reporters and a French philosopher criticizing Obama as ‘weak’, ‘indecisive’, ‘unfocused’ in his response to ISIS activities, and comparing him unfavorably to Putin. A page has been turned.”–BRH

    You don’t get it BRH and I’m afraid you’re never going to get it. An individual/nation cannot keep endlessly expanding and expending itself. At some point, ‘to go out’ requires a ‘coming back in’.

    To put it in terms that I’m sure you probably very well understand, a man cannot keep on blowing his wad; a refractory period is required.

    And that is the tragedy of W Bush and Cheney’s 2003 Iraq war based on false evidence and which you no doubt supported: The United States ‘blew its wad” to the tune of a trillion and now it lives with a limp dick as a result.

    The problem with you and your ilk, BRH, metaphorically speaking, is you want to ‘bang’ every whore walking down “War Street” and continually enlarge the coffers of the war pimps in the process.

    You’re a spent man with spent ideas BRH; a mirror of the larger nation that envelops you. You never learned to pick and choose wisely based upon true reproductive need and instead chased every war tramp/hustler/harlot that offered yet another opportunity to ‘bang’ the drums of war.

    War war war, whore whore whore–body chasing tail in a endless circle of futility and now collapsed into a quivering heap of flaccidity.

    So don’t go blaming Obama, BRH for the nation’s inevitable refractory moment. You and yours didn’t choose encounters/battles wisely.

    • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2015 at 10:10 am #

      This wasn’t me talking, Buck, this was Charlie Rose and NYTs reporters, some of the biggest Obama ass kissers this side of Chris Matthews. I’m just commenting on what I watched. One NYT reporter, the Paris correspondent, seemed especially shaken. After all, Paris has been the Mecca of American writers and artists sine the days of Washington Irving and Henry James. Now its ended.

      brh

    • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 10:26 am #

      Another Buck comment in which one metaphor is ridden from A to Z and beyond……..not that there’s anything wrong with that.

      • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 10:31 am #

        BTW, my ‘refractory’ (I think recovery would be a better word) period used to be about one hour, now it’s about one month.

      • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2015 at 10:40 am #

        Buck and Janos are pretty set in their beliefs, as such, its pretty easy to get a rise out of them. A few key words and phrases here and there, that’s all it takes.

        brh

        • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2015 at 2:43 pm #

          A few key phrases that indicate you continued commitment to the traveling Red, White, and Blue Death Machine.

          • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2015 at 2:54 pm #

            Thing is Janos, you routinely denounce the United States, and now that the Fatherland is going down the toilet, overrun by locusts, you seem to be a ‘man without a country.’

            Where can you turn?

            You blame Germany’s prostration on losing WW2, but that was 70 years ago, plenty of time for them to get up off their knees. Maybe Germany wasn’t much to begin with, certainly, the US Army didn’t have much trouble crushing them in 1918 or 1945. As for your Aryan Supermen, well, their daughters are being raped by Morlocs, and they’e standing by and letting it happen. Some Supermen!

            brh

          • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2015 at 6:52 pm #

            Here is your evil on full display for all to see. Germany has been occupied ever since the end of the war. And yes, the psychological toll from the endless persecution, propaganda, and show trial has been devastating. But even as you gloat, America is being killed in a similar way and you still want to go fight overseas. The battle is right here, Einstein.

            Russia did the main fighting and broke the German army. The main contribution of America was financial and technical. Russia wouldn’t have won without it. Thus Communism and Capitalism united against Fascism – and will again. They are both economic philosophies while Fascism is of the human spirit.

  110. fodase November 18, 2015 at 10:36 am #

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html

    wpa, just a few statistically insignificant muslims arrested in the US where they wanted to shred kaffirs (that’s you) with pressure cooker pellet bombs and see little kids eviscerated in the name of their religion of peace

    these people cannot be killed – eat it – soon enuf

    one of them can kill tens of thousands.

    do the math

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  111. M. Bessette November 18, 2015 at 10:44 am #

    If nothing else, wpa-ccc provides a great window into the aloof negligence of today’s liberal-left humanist set. For it’s not enough to build a case for tolerance and mercy on the ground of humanitarian sensibility and statistical evidence alone. Neither will the fear-defying chest thump do to that tired tune of ‘We will not be terrorized or live in fear’ (B Sanders), for it predictably entails reiterating what else but the sensible course of action: supporting “the construction of an international coalition…to lead the fight against Islamic State.” Without solid parity – a shrill, sustained, multi-national demand for radical overhaul of the Washington Consensus – the big-hearted asylum argument can’t avoid cementing the establishment’s suicidal arc.

  112. beantownbill. November 18, 2015 at 10:55 am #

    @wpa:

    I understand what you are saying, but you have to be careful when you are using statistics. For instance, the link to which you refer uses figures based on battle deaths in wars, and only counts battles in which over 1000 people died. The site defines wars only as armed conflicts between countries, or civil conflicts, but it doesn’t define terrorist attacks as armed conflicts, which is a mistake given the nature of 21st century war. This is why the site states the number of wars has been decreasing.

    Given the type of armed jihad that radical fundamentalist Muslims employ, it is not unreasonable to say they are at war with us (western civilization). Yet under these definitions, the 2,800 victims of 9-11 would not be counted in the total battle deaths.And neither would the Paris deaths, and any other set of attacks on small groups of individuals by jihadist Muslims.

    Whether the world is getting more safe as you claim, is not to be determined just by numbers. I don’t say this lightly, because believe me, I’m a numbers person. Safe is a relative and subjective word, too. I don’t know about you, but I sure don’t feel more and more safe. One last comment: None of these figures take into account attack survivors. Tell me they feel more safe.

  113. nsa November 18, 2015 at 10:56 am #

    For whom the bell tolls…….CFNers are gloating over the destruction of europe by the invasion of inbred cultists with their sick religion and welfare demands and pathetic pinprick attacks.. Have a good laugh……every day 10,000 ignorant verminous undocumented democrats stream unfettered across the southern US border…bringing with them crime, disease, drugs, welfare demands, sick papal religion, bad food, rotten music. The jails and emergency rooms are clogged with these lice. They drop their anchor babies and demand you support them. They take jobs from the remaining 50% of americans willing to work. They clog the public school system. Their crappy language in on every set of instructions. They sell your kids heroin and meth. So CFNers….keep watching jungle ball and cashing those disability checks for the anxiety attacks and bad lower backs……we here in Ft. Meade are laughing our asses off.

    • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2015 at 2:44 pm #

      Hey NSA you guys seem to do a lot of laughing (your asses off)

      I know, you have much to laugh about.

      brh

  114. barbisbest November 18, 2015 at 11:04 am #

    “The West itself, including America, is a circus of soft targets. The softest ones are between our ears.”

    Unfortunately, there’s much validity to this, and there could be many contributing factors. We are currently, so the scientists tell us, at over 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere. According to a recent report from Harvard School of Health, increased CO2 makes us, well, dumber. One could deduce then that, for Rome, it was lead in their water. For us, it will be CO2. Add to this, dumbing down, violent video games, meant to divert our attention, increased amounts of chemicals in our food, off-gassing carpets, (JHK has mentioned a few of these in the past) and so, yes, we probably are getting more stupid. And, why would any University President do anything about anything. They collect very hefty salaries, and they probably deserve a good salary, but some of them seem rather excessive. But, of course, in all likelihood, it’s set up that way.

    Janos, I know you are not stupid, but to write that I hate white men… that is very stupid. I never wrote that, and I don’t! I’m not prejudice, some days I hate all men, and some days I hate some men, and some days I don’t hate any men, but I am especially sick of civilization sucking.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2015 at 2:19 pm #

      Check your premises and/or metaphysical assumptions: You are assuming a Golden Age are you not? When women ruled or at least were the first among equals? All Feminists do and virtually women are now Feminists. The problem is that no such Age ever was, at least not in our recorded history. Civilization has always sucked – but it sucks worse than what is coming, namely Islamic and Non-White barbarisms. You are spoiled rotten and don’t know it. Count you blessings: You were born White in a rich White country. And you owe everything you’ve ever had to the tough White Men who conquered the Indians and took this land for our Race, Civilization, and God. And that means for White Women too. Your proper response is incredible gratitude to the ancestors, both male and female who bequeathed this to us.

  115. Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 11:09 am #

    It’s easy to see, then, why shutting refugees out of the West could breed more extremism. – wpa

    ==============

    There’s some validity to your point but rather than allow them into “the West” where THEY WILL NOT ASSIMILATE I suggest we offer them Madagascar. ;o) (now where have I heard that before? hmmm?)

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    • beantownbill. November 18, 2015 at 11:19 am #

      Lol

  116. barbisbest November 18, 2015 at 11:19 am #

    This heart goes out to the people of Paris. Kudos though to the man, having been present and witnessing the attacks, when interviewed, said he was not going to hate because that is what they want.

    I have read that people in some places are forming spiritual communities, sort of like Findhorn, and that’s encouraging.
    The Indians may smile over that. That’s a segue to this…
    imagine being able to sit on a horse and wield a bow and arrow. Incredible.

    Terrorism is terrorism. War is terrorism. Propaganda is very, very powerful tool!!!

    • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2015 at 2:37 pm #

      And they used to practice warfare on horseback with bows. What are you trying to say? Do you even know? I think you would be the last to know. Surrender Dorothy. I am your brain.

  117. elysianfield November 18, 2015 at 11:34 am #

    “(CNN) — The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group’s goal is to force America into bankruptcy.

    Al-Jazeera aired portions of the videotape Friday but released the full transcript of the entire tape on its Web site Monday.

    “We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah,” bin Laden said in the transcript.

    He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, “using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers.”

    “We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat,” bin Laden said.

    He also said al Qaeda has found it “easy for us to provoke and bait this administration.”

    “All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations,” bin Laden said.
    UBL, November 2004

    • elysianfield November 18, 2015 at 11:36 am #

      …And “How do you like it now, Gentlemen?”

      • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2015 at 4:04 pm #

        Hey, E, that’s my line. That’s ok, you can use it. I myself stole it from Hemingway, a phrase of his when talking to reporters.

        brh

  118. FincaInTheMountains November 18, 2015 at 11:59 am #

    We don’t need no Stinkin’ Visas! — stelmosfire

    Sure you don’t. But unfortunately, you do need imports surpluses from around the world, about 50 billion every month.

    If everybody on the planet Earth would be consuming equally to Americans, we would need about 5 planet Earth worth of natural resources.

  119. John Howard November 18, 2015 at 12:30 pm #

    Nice to see JHK allude to gay marriage being a problem, in passing reference to Putin’s warnings about “institutions” being important.

    We need to end same sex marriage anyhow, for our own future, regardless of how it is driving terrorism. It’s terrible that we are dropping bombs on people in the name of gay marriage.

    The Natural Marriage and Reproduction Act ends same sex marriage in every state and would pass easily and is absolutely necessary to protect human rights and equality.

    Caitlyn Jenner is not a woman and does not have a right to be pregnant or mate with a man.

    • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 1:32 pm #

      Caitlyn Jenner is not a woman and does not have a right to be pregnant or mate with a man. – John Howard

      ================

      Johnny one-note is back.

      Lemme ax you a question: Jenner is 66 years old and to my knowledge doesn’t have a womb… What are the odds that ‘she’ will be able to successfully mate with a man?

      And when you say “doesn’t have the right to ‘mate with a man'” do you mean actually procreate or merely simulate traditional intercourse by taking it up the poop chute? Isn’t it kind of a waste of our time to concern ourselves that people of the same gender are simulating the traditional heterosexual sex act with one another?

      Stamping out this kind of activity would be infinitely more difficult than defeating ISIS.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2015 at 2:46 pm #

        Obama said check into your nearest one stop when you have a problem.

      • John Howard November 18, 2015 at 2:57 pm #

        90 year old women have a right to be pregnant and mate with a man, but 30 year old men do not.

        I’m talking about actually procreating, not anal sex.

        You’d think one note would be pretty easy to remember.

        • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

          Since you are so heavily invested in this issue you, no doubt, know way more about it than me…………. so, can you point to any serious work in medical science where a man might someday have installed in him a womb, vagina, fallopian tubes, appropriate hormones and even reconstruction of the pelvis to allow for natural childbirth? It seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

        • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 5:26 pm #

          90 year old women have a right to be pregnant and mate with a man, but 30 year old men do not. – John H.

          =================

          Do you know of even one man out of 3.5 billion on earth who is working with medical scientists to accomplish this… i.e. get pregnant? Please document it.

          • John Howard November 18, 2015 at 6:35 pm #

            I know kids are thinking that it will be possible, and they aren’t being taught that it isn’t a right and will never be an option for them.

            Everything I said in my comment is true, it doesn’t depend on people being stupid enough to actually be trying to accomplish it. The point is, we need to end same sex marriage and rule this out.

          • stelmosfire November 19, 2015 at 10:53 am #

            Mornin’ Q. I see lots of men who look pregnant! But I guess that’s just the 55-60″ waist, that makes them look like they are carrying twins! Heart attacks are good for the med/pharmaceutical business. Give me extra bacon on that please.

  120. Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 2:21 pm #

    Re this dude Abaaoud:

    The media is referring to him as either the ‘mastermind’ of the Paris attacks or the ‘architect’ …

    I wish they would avoid ‘mastermind’ as this glamorizes his act far more than ‘architect.’

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  121. fodase November 18, 2015 at 3:09 pm #

    Nice to see the backlash against these muslim fanatics in the US – Tennessee official has come out in favor of the National Guard rounding up the “Syrians” and taking them back to ICE with a “No thank you” note pinned to them.

    http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/17/tennessee-gop-leader-round-up-syrian-refugees-remove-state/75936660/

    Yeah – I feel for the ones that aren’t at fault. But then again, everyone’s got the identical feeling that these ballyhooed ‘moderate Muslims’ silently root for their subhuman compatriots who do the vicious killing.

    Where are the liberals yelling “Where’s the outrage?” at this atrocious savagery – or at Islam’s despicable treatment of women?

    I’ve put up a great Wild West wanted dead or alive poster on my wall – God does it feel good to have real live red-blooded US culture back!

    Cowboys and Indians and little ladies and half the US states telling the insane federales to shove it!

    The tide has turned – even nonsensical liberals are starting to get it. It being that Western culture is far superior to everything else.

    fodase

  122. fodase November 18, 2015 at 3:26 pm #

    Well they found 30 Muslims who protested against the Paris attacks, in Paris – out of 224,000 that live there.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/only-30-paris-muslims-in-city-of-224000-muslims-turn-out-to-protest-bloody-isis-attacks/

    Wpa, who likes statistics, will take comfort in the fact that that’s only 0.00001339% or so.

    These 30 are taking their life into their hands, and everyone knows it.

    Once again, we have our suspicions confirmed that the non-participating muslims are rooting for the animal co-killers.

    • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 4:50 pm #

      Wpa, who likes statistics, will take comfort in the fact that that’s only 0.00001339% or so. – fodase

      ===============

      As much as I detest being pedantic – wink wink – if you divide 30 by 224,000 you get .0001339 (note, there are only 3 zeros to the right of the decimal). Then, if you want to state that number as a percent it is .01339%. Putting it into words it is approximately one and one third one hundredths of one percent.

  123. Sean Coleman November 18, 2015 at 3:46 pm #

    ‘In case you haven’t noticed, the center not only isn’t holding, it gave way some time ago.’

    This is mirrored in the comments here. What used to be the centre is dominated by a kind of totalitarian liberalism with a very narrow range of opinions which are permissible to hold or express (even in private conversations). Many of these would have been considered extreme only a few short years ago. Some of these believers on here try to portray themselves as moderate and reasonable but it isn’t very convincing. Everyone seems to be on the one side or the other.

    • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 4:55 pm #

      Everyone seems to be on the one side or the other. – Sean

      =============

      Yeah… isn’t ^this^ the way it usually is with any issue? Or would you prefer that there be more wishy-washy fence sitters?

      • Sean Coleman November 19, 2015 at 2:12 pm #

        I think people have the idea that there is a spread of opinion on issues from A to B with these two ends as the extremes and all the moderates in the opinion, rather like one of those statistical curves (bell curves?). So the ‘extremists’ are very few in number and other either end.

        Applying this to politics you should then have a tiny number of left wing extremists at one end and an equally small number of ‘fascists’ at the other with the vast bulk of the people, sensible citizens, in the middle.

        What really appears to be the case is that we have the masses of Good Little Maoists on one side and a large number of people occupying the so-called fascist fringe at the other end. The GLMs will not argue fairly and continue to claim the middle ground without surrendering any of their extremist positions (views that would have been seen as extreme only a few years ago but are now middle of the road in the media). I’m just thinking out loud here.

  124. wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 5:43 pm #

    “Or would you prefer that there be more wishy-washy fence sitters?” –Q.

    I prefer the position of the Dalai Lama:

    “I am a Buddhist and I believe in praying. But humans have created this problem, and now we are asking God to solve it. It is illogical. God would say, solve it yourself because you created it in the first place.”

    Solve it non-violently, of course.

    • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 6:00 pm #

      So, let me get this straight, the Dolly Lama is praying, but asking God to solve it is illogical.

      Oh wait a minute, I just noticed: he didn’t say he WAS praying, he merely said he believes in praying.

    • elysianfield November 18, 2015 at 6:33 pm #

      “Solve it non-violently, of course”

      Non-violent solutions, involving race, immigration, religious intolerance, etc, are a shameless myth… as is the female orgasm.

      • ozone November 18, 2015 at 7:35 pm #

        Oopsie, E, you’ve just revealed a key deficiency in your bedroom techniques. (You might want to do a bit of study in the areas of anatomy and sexual stimulation before continuing to embarrass yourself via your current “understanding”. 😉 )

        • stelmosfire November 19, 2015 at 10:57 am #

          Got that right O3, The female BIG O is there, seen it happen many times, I’ve got cauliflower ears to prove it!

  125. nsa November 18, 2015 at 5:51 pm #

    10,000 illiterate illegals stream across the border every day……overpowering the welfare system, driving down american wages, flooding the country with heroin and meth poisons. Any traitors out there care to justify this kind of madness and cowardice?

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    • wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 6:52 pm #

      Wayne Cornelius, director of the Mexican migration field research program at the University of California at San Diego, interviews hundreds of people each year in the Mexican state of Yuca­tan and asks them whether they are planning to come to the United States in the next 12 months.

      In 2006, 24 percent said yes. By 2009, as the U.S. economy was cratering, 8 percent said yes. This year, 2.5 percent answered in the affirmative.

      A recent study by the Pew Research Center, meanwhile, found that the median length of stay for illegal immigrants in the United States jumped from less than eight years in 2003 to nearly 13 years by 2013. Their median age has increased from 28 during the 1990s to nearly 36 today.

      Those figures wouldn’t be possible if young men were still coming across the border in huge numbers, and it was those young men who accounted for most of the illegal traffic.

  126. wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 5:56 pm #

    ISIS are Sunni Muslims. George W. Bush allowed 106,000 Sunni Muslims from Iraq into the USA. Muslims have lived here peacefully for years. Now Obama wants to allow in only 10,000 Syrian widows and orphans, after a rigorous two-year vetting process. Obama should allow 10 million Syrians refugees to enter, to match the 10 million Muslims already living in the USA, and every refugee should be given immediate and full citizenship so they can work and vote.

    To close our doors to Syrian refugees is to be played like a fiddle, to fall into the ISIS trap. If we send troops to ISIS to be killed, we only do what ISIS wants. We already did that for Al Qaeda and lost thousands of soldiers. Enough is enough. Let the 5,000 men under arms in the region deal with ISIS. We should stay home and open the borders to Syrians who are fleeing from war and are under death threat from ISIS.

    • wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 6:01 pm #

      ^Let the 5,000,000 (5 million) men under arms in the region^

  127. wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 6:14 pm #

    Who has killed more people: Boko Haram or ISIS? Boko Haram. But don’t expect CNN to cover their attacks day and night… the victims are Black.

    The Global Terrorism Index said Boko Haram killed more people — 6,644 — in terror attacks during 2014 than any other group. The Islamic State, which is based in Syria and Iraq and this week brought its deadly violence to Baghdad, Beirut and Paris, follows closely behind, at 6,073 deaths through terrorism in 2014.

    We can focus on two different parts of the world where terrorist attacks happen: Paris and Nigeria

  128. wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 6:21 pm #

    Oh, one more thing… Kindly stop referring to the Nigerian terrorist group Boko Haram as “Islamic terrorists,” “Islamists” or anything else involving the word “Islam.”

    The despicable acts taken by this militant group—from kidnapping schoolgirls to slaughtering people at churches and mosques—have absolutely nothing to do with Islam. In fact, as one well-known Imam said, the claim by Boko Haram’s leader that its actions are based on Islamic principles is “blasphemy” of the worst kind.

    Why do our media continually use terms like “Islamist” or “Islamic radical” to describe people or groups without doing the bare minimum investigation into whether there’s actually a connection between their conduct and Islam? Instead, it appears that the media assume that if the person is Muslim and claims he is acting in accordance the faith, that’s good enough for them. It shouldn’t be.

    Here’s some real “breaking news”: Want to know how much of the violent acts committed by Boko Haram are based on Islamic principles? Nothing, nada, niente, rien, or any word you want to use for having no connection.

    And this isn’t just my view. It’s what Muslims around the world having been saying for the past week as they have both denounced the Paris attacks and Boko Haram’s savagery and stated that Boko Haram’s actions are in no way sanctioned or supported by Islamic principles.

    We have again heard this from leaders of major American-Muslim organizations who held a press conference last week, as well as from leading clerics in Saudi Arabia, Canada and Nigeria. Hopefully, this ends the claim we hear from those who ask, “Why don’t we see Muslims denounce terrorism?”

    • Florida Power November 18, 2015 at 7:46 pm #

      Yeah, you’re right! 30 Muslims came out in Paris (out of a Muslim population of 224,000) to join in the protest. Who says they don’t speak out?

  129. Titchfield November 18, 2015 at 6:27 pm #

    Algeria’s nationalists had to fight a civil war to drive the French out of Algeria. Marine Le Pen seems to have concluded that the French will have to fight a civil war to drive the Muslims out of France.

    Le Pen has publicly advised Hollande to close all mosques. Will Hollande take her advice? No, he won’t.

    Hollande is not the man to save France from Islam, Le Pen is telling the French people. He doesn’t have the audacity, he doesn’t have the will. She does.

    Imagine Le Pen as French president in 2017. And imagine her taking her own advice. (She may not.) To realize her vision of all French mosques defunct, she starts with Paris. She sends masons to brick in their entrances and she marshals troops to guard the masons while they work. As soon as this work starts, the Arab quarters of Paris will explode. It will be 1871 all over again–the affronted mounting an insurrection.

    As is traditional in France, Paris sets the example and other cities, other regions, then follow. Le Pen will have the civil war she seems to want. La France Profunde will be finished.

  130. wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 6:36 pm #

    Once the Syrian refugees are allowed into the USA, the refugees should all be given handguns and NRA firearms training, as constitutionally permitted by the 2nd Amendment… so they can defend themselves against xenophobes who say “Muslims are vermin and should be annihilated.”

    The more millions of Muslims we allow into the USA, the sooner people are going to get to know that Muslims are peaceful and Islam, though it allows self-defense, is a religion of peace.

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    • Florida Power November 18, 2015 at 8:15 pm #

      Lefty conundrum: the scourge of guns versus right of self-defense for protected special groups.

      We need a tribunal of wise MEN with flowing white beards to guide us here.

  131. wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 7:01 pm #

    The President of France wants to accept more refugees from Syria, which is a slap in the face of ISIS and their “caliphate” because Hollande is not taking the ISIS bait, like Tennessee and Indiana did.

    “France will remain a country of freedom. 30,000 refugees will be welcomed over the next two years. Our country has the duty to respect this commitment” –Hollande defending his decision to honor a commitment to accept migrants and refugees

    Hollande has more courage than the Republican governors and Republican presidential candidates who call for closing mosques and do not respect freedom of religion (except for Christians)

    • Q. Shtik November 18, 2015 at 9:43 pm #

      Our country has the duty to respect this commitment” – wpa quoting Hollande

      ===============

      Translation:

      “In the light of current events (which were always a matter of ‘not if but when,’) the blinkers have come off and I can now see with total clarity the utter stupidity of allowing in more Muslim refugees who will never in my or anyone’s lifetime assimilate into French culture…… but a commitment is a commitment.”

  132. fodase November 18, 2015 at 7:27 pm #

    Hollande’s decision to take in 30k Syrian ‘refugees’ is sheer lunacy. There is little to no vetting of these folks, meaning terrorists will have no trouble whatsoever in slipping in with the non-terrorist ones.

    The islamic terrorists are laughing at folks like you, wpa, laughing and licking their chops with glee at deluded ‘compassionate’ individuals such as yourself.

    Your attitude is literally killing people.

    We are at war, and during wartime drastic measures need to be taken.

    refuse all middle eastern refugees
    bomb the shit out of terrorist locations
    eavesdrop on all mosques and islamic organisations
    infiltrate and kill all members of terrorist organisations

    fyi, most of this is already being done covertly, it’s just that it needs to be stepped up 1000%

    mosques have been eavesdropped on for 15 years now…and rightly so

    the muslims are the japanese of 1945, fanatics willing to die and kill everyone along with them, for their warped religion

    today the Japanese are model global citizens, following their wake up call

    you want freedom and prosperity?

    pay the price, all rational people are seeing what the price is that needs to be exacted

    • ozone November 18, 2015 at 7:46 pm #

      So, you want to go full xenophobe, do you?
      Then explain who this “we” might be, Brasileiro.
      (Yes, I’m *more* than done; I leave this world to the spittle-sprayers. Good Luck.)

      • wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 8:39 pm #

        I swallow my spittle before I speak softly to promote arming all the incoming refugees. Expedited processing that gives each refugee a Glock 19, firearms training, a US passport, and a voter’s registration card. 🙂

      • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 3:56 am #

        Xenophobe? You still take an old hackneyed liberal smear like that seriously? After all that has happened? You makes you a Xenophile, in other words, a Traitor.

  133. wpa_ccc November 18, 2015 at 8:42 pm #

    “We are at war” –fodase

    fodase, fodase. Don’t include me in your we. I am at peace with Muslims.

  134. bob November 18, 2015 at 11:54 pm #

    Those in control promote the duality which reflects the duality of our world view. Duality is translated as the antagonism of opposites as good and evil..We are all human beings we are all the same .

    • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 4:02 am #

      No wonder you don’t capitalize you name – because bob spelled backwards is bob. You are equal to yourself and everyone else. Nothing special. Why shouldn’t you be moved out of your home to make room for a Somali immigrant? You wouldn’t object would you? Because that would be an affirmation of “self”, that would be capitalizing your name to Bob or even worse, Robert.

      You will enjoy Somalia, bob. It’s hideously hot and you lack the black skin that protects from the sun. No doubt you can serve the women inside with their kitchen work. A humble kitchen drudge or scullery wench.

  135. nsa November 19, 2015 at 12:30 am #

    The french fucks are so so cowardly. They blast some 5000 rounds and 30 grenades into an apartment and are still too snail shit to enter……so what do the faggy froggies do? They send in a courageous canine and get it killed….yup, that’s the way the froggies roll. War historians puzzle as to how the germans overran france in just two weeks. We here in Ft. Meade wonder why it took so long……..

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    • John Howard November 19, 2015 at 1:53 pm #

      I gotta say, good use for a dog, and it takes some bravery to say so and send in a dog. In this country, we are too scared to, and we,d devise some ridiculous plan that wouldn’t work.

  136. Buck Stud November 19, 2015 at 12:55 am #

    “BTW, my ‘refractory’ (I think recovery would be a better word) period used to be about one hour, now it’s about one month.”–Q

    Not bad for an 85 yr old, Q; not bad at all 😉

    • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 4:05 am #

      When is his birthday? Maybe we could have a cyber party and cake, with all of eating cake at the same time to make it more “real”.

  137. wpa_ccc November 19, 2015 at 1:07 am #

    All the grandstanding against Syrian refugees by Republican governors and Republican candidates to score political points is for naught. Under the Refugee Act of 1980 states cannot legally block refugees from settling in their communities.

    Congress cannot do anything either, because President Obama still has a phone and a pen and a veto. Just old men making empty threats, like when Clint Eastwood yelled at that chair.

    Oh, well, 700,000 refugees have settled here since 9/11 and there haven’t been daily massacres as a result. An additional 10,000 Syrians should be a welcome addition.

    “When I hear folks say that maybe we should just admit the Christians and not the Muslims… We don’t have religious tests to our compassion.” — President Obama

    • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 4:08 am #

      That was before the rise of ISIS. And all of those refugees weren’t even from Muslim countries so your statistic, even if accurate, is meaningless.

  138. wpa_ccc November 19, 2015 at 1:38 am #

    CNN: “I understand that this anti-refugee position is certainly a popular thing to do,” host Jake Tapper told Christie. “But most of the terrorists here in France appear to be French and Belgian citizens. Most of them were citizens here in Europe and I don’t hear you or any of your fellow presidential candidates calling for European citizens to be banned from entering the United States.”

    “How do you know that?” Christie shot back. “I mean, I’d love to know how you figured that one out.”

    In reality, European Union officials have “figured out” that the attackers were not refugees.

    Here is what Chris Christie and the other Republican governors are afraid of: under 5-year old refugees:

    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3684696/images/r-MAAESA-ALROUSTOM-huge.jpg

  139. Pucker November 19, 2015 at 1:54 am #

    Speaking of safe spaces, I once met a middle aged German bloke in a bar in China. He said that German woman have nice big tits. He said that he enjoys sticking is head between a set of big German Hooters and smothering himself. I wonder what German men will do when there are only Muslim tits, or when German men eventually grow the biggest tits?

    • wpa_ccc November 19, 2015 at 2:29 am #

      “smothering himself” … does not sound safe.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 4:14 am #

      One stripper had huge silicone boobs, as big as a man’s head. She was swinging them at people in the crowd and gave one guy a concussion. He sued her. Don’t know how the suit went. Hope he took the beast to the cleaners. Only in America, eh? And as Rammstein says, We’re all in America now.

      • Sticks-of-TNT November 19, 2015 at 4:52 am #

        I guess the week is growing old. The discussion has taken a decidedly bizarre turn. The combatants are spent. Time to change the topic. Suggestions? PTSD?

        • capt spaulding November 19, 2015 at 3:23 pm #

          It gets tiring to be sure. You can always guess what the comments from various individuals will be, from Janos down to the resident turd. I use resident turd, because my reaction to what he says is tantamount to finding dog shit on the bottom of my shoe. It’s not that important in my life, but it still needs to be scraped off . I would venture to say that most of the people on this blog could formulate the same replies by parroting what any politically correct puke would post on any subject that comes up. He’s having a great time provoking people. I hate to admit it, but I find myself buying into his bullshit from time to time. I picture this blog as a bunch of people sitting around a table, having a beer, discussing the issues of the day, and trust me, this fool would not be permitted at the table for long. His bullshit becomes repetitive, and boring and completely predictable. I would not allow him to sit at the table. Trolls abound, but they should never be replied to directly, it only encourages them. Don’t feed the trolls. I understand that this post only encourages him, but it’s something that needs to be said. Henceforth, I will ignore him.

  140. FincaInTheMountains November 19, 2015 at 3:43 am #

    After the meeting with Putin, traditionally reserved President of Indonesia Joko Widodo delivered a sharp message, saying that the dollar dependency systematically destroys the world economy. A number of publications came to the conclusion that such a “change of opinion”, of course, is related to the strengthening of the position of the Russian Federation, which the Western media keep portraying as mired in recession and isolation.

    http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/101490/dependence-on-us-dollar-can-threaten-economic-progress-jokowi

    In a meantime, “Islamic State” delivers a message to Russian Federation that “GOLD” could be hazardous to the health of your citizens and air travelers, by publishing a picture of something that according to Russian experts, could not have possibly been the picture of device that exploded on board of the Russian plane over Sinai:

    http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/564c9f271600002e0026da5f.png?cache=UpHppyHetj

    Tragedy in France, migrants, “uncontrollable chaos” in the Middle East, the ills of global economy, climatic problems – topics raised on the first day of the G20 summit in Antalya clearly illustrates the transition of the world political system into a state of permanent instability.

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  141. Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 4:48 am #

    http://www.dailystormer.com/in-the-wake-of-paris-jewish-groups-urge-congress-to-flood-country-with-syrians/

    It may not be so much the refugees themselves – after all the influx from Mexico, Central America, Africa, etc has already doomed White America. But they simply can’t stand Conservative Americans standing up to them at all.

  142. FincaInTheMountains November 19, 2015 at 7:49 am #

    Star Wars. Episode XXX

    In the avalanche of media garbage and manipulation of public perception of the past two weeks, associated with the transfer of responsibility from one side to another about the collapse of the Russian Airbus over Sinai, the terrorist attacks in Paris, the financing of ISIS / Al Qaeda, some important messages remained unreflected:

    China Tests Anti-Satellite Missile

    November 9, 2015 5:00 am
    China recently conducted a flight test of a new missile capable of knocking out U.S. satellites as part of Beijing’s growing space warfare arsenal.

    The test of a Dong Neng-3 exoatmospheric vehicle was carried out Oct. 30 from China’s Korla Missile Test Complex in western China, said two defense officials familiar with reports of the test.

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-tests-anti-satellite-missile/

    After monstrous in its inhumanity sabotage against industry in Tianjin, China and after a series of attacks against the civilian population of China, China’s economy has suffered heavy losses (only one incident in Tianjin is estimated at $120 billion.) All available means had to be thrown at the restoration – economy was thrown 2-3 years back.

    It seems that Russia and China have chosen an adequate “object of retaliation” for terrorist attacks and sabotage: the space group of satellites of the Pentagon and NATO. At the same time Russian submarines are messing around the NATO underwater data cables.

    Navy grapples with Russian threats to undersea cables

    http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2015/10/30/uuvs-protecting-undersea-cables-russia-darpa/74823926/

  143. BackRowHeckler November 19, 2015 at 8:12 am #

    Over in Turkey at a soccer match, when the stadium crowd was asked to observe a moment of silence for the dead of Paris, cheers of Alihu Akbar, and jeers, erupted. That should tell you something.

    I’m watching BBC; candles are still being lit in Paris. Hey Pierre, lighting candles ain’t gonna get it done! Mustafa isn’t impressed by your f-kkin candle lighting activity. Your country fought 2 world wars against Germany using Lebel bolt action 8mm rifles. There must be millions of them lying around the country. Gather some up, clean ’em oil ’em, take some target practice in the fields outside the city … your enemy is all around you, in the suburbs surrounding Paris, hundreds of thousands of them who want to see you dead, topple France, and install the Caliphate; don’t stand around like sheep waiting to be slaughtered, lighting candles, singing hymns, laying wreaths, man up for Christ Sake, head out to the enemy strongholds, just a few blocks from you, clean out that vermin, terrorize them like they terrorize you, see how they like it. That’s how you’re gonna win this war and take your country back, not bombing Syria and lighting candles in the streets of Paris.

    brh

    • FincaInTheMountains November 19, 2015 at 8:20 am #

      Ah, it is easy to deceive me!…
      I long to be deceived myself!.

      A. Pushkin, 1828

      • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 2:54 pm #

        Exactly. All action must come from the top. The Gentiles must never act on their own accord.

    • FincaInTheMountains November 19, 2015 at 8:25 am #

      Aline! I ask but to be pitied,
      I do not dare to plead for love;
      Love, for the sins I have committed,
      I am perhaps unworthy of.

      But make believe! Your gaze, dear elf,
      Is fit to conjure with, believe me!
      Ah, it is easy to deceive me!…
      I long to be deceived myself!.

      A. Pushkin, 1828

  144. Pucker November 19, 2015 at 8:13 am #

    Solazzo: “Don Corleone, I need a million dollars cash. I need those judges and politicians that Don Corleone has in his back pocket like so many nickels and dimes. I need a girl with a nice ass and a nice set of tits. And a bottle of Chianti and some cannoli.”

  145. sprawlcapital November 19, 2015 at 9:56 am #

    I haven’t read all of this week’s comments, so someone may have discussed this already.

    I’m trying a sort of thought experiment.

    It’s late November 2016 and President-elect Trump is meeting with the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Questions: Is Trump intimidated by the generals and admiral. Are they intimidated by him? Or does everyone feel comfortable and confident working together?

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    • sprawlcapital November 19, 2015 at 11:16 am #

      I’ll supply the answer.

      Like most presidents starting with Truman, Trump would allow the military to run foreign policy, and we would continue outspending any other country on our military.

  146. fodase November 19, 2015 at 10:07 am #

    well well, so now we’re getting all these ‘syrians’ being caught entering illegally thru mexico…

    yeah our govt can really be trusted with our safety

    2nd amendment looking wiser and wiser by the hour

    you may have the numbers, but good citizens have the guns and the moxie

    don’t tread on us

  147. Buck Stud November 19, 2015 at 10:18 am #

    “… don’t stand around like sheep waiting to be slaughtered, lighting candles, singing hymns, laying wreaths, man up for Christ Sake, head out to the enemy strongholds, just a few blocks from you, clean out that vermin, terrorize them like they terrorize you, see how they like it…” –BRH

    So indiscriminate murder/assassination is what you advocate. Never mind that 99 point whatever percent are not terrorists–WPA is right about that–just pull the trigger and start killing a majority of innocents to get the minority bad guy.

    Or are you going to claim you ‘didn’t really type the above’ like you did in your last response to me when you denied your own interpretative typing?

    Of course you would never act on your own advice because behind all the infantile internet bravado resides a person first and foremost concerned with their own self-preservation, never mind “the Nation or the White Race’.

    Bullshit walks and money talks as they say. BRH ain’t got no dough, no balls to ‘man up’ with so he lets ‘his fingers do the walking’ Yellow Page style over the internet. A typical Neo Con hypocrite, in other words.

    • elysianfield November 19, 2015 at 10:30 am #

      BRH,
      I once heard a wise man say…”Hey, don’t let him shit on you like that…open your mouth!”

    • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2015 at 11:17 am #

      like I said, Buck, you and Janos, two sides of the same coin, thin skinned, and easily provoked.

      brh

      • Buck Stud November 19, 2015 at 2:42 pm #

        So when somebody responds to your post advocating mass murder/assassination via the very terrorism you denounce from radical Islam they are ‘easily provoked’?

        Advocating murder/terrorism as you clearly wrote in your post slightly up thread is not provocative?

        Maybe you have a point and one should simply ignore you. I did that for a while but then you made a whiny post complaining about being ignored.

        • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2015 at 3:03 pm #

          Buck, you’re taking this stuff too seriously. Last week you accused me of using ‘hyperbole’. Of course its hyperbolic, as is about 90% of this comments section after about Monday at 6:00 pm.

          In reality, I don’t think there are too many muskets lying around France, and Pierre isn’t going to tear himself away from Le Deuce Cafe, get one, and go out hunting Muslims out in the suburbs. Its absurd. I’m surprised you didn’t get that.

          Buck, you used to be cool, you had a sense of humor, what happened? Now its just recriminations and calling names. Did something change? True, the situation seems to be getting more serious in the world, its the Long Emergence alright, but not playing out exactly as Jim predicted in his book 10 years ago.

          brh

      • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 3:10 pm #

        You and the Bucks of the world united against Fascism. And Buck is right: you are talking beyond your world view. You should adjust your world view first. To middle class people, everything must come from the top. There is no such thing as independent action. In other moods you feel the same. Our government is no more legitimate than France’s is. In other words, why don’t you go out and clean up Hartford from the vermin who infest it? Because you will be caught and go to jail. And none of your friends and family will support you since you would be then be a “racist”. Welcome to White Nationalist reality.

        You have the same problem as Pat Buchanan. You can’t let go of the old way of seeing the world – which lead to the ongoing disaster. You get close sometimes, but never cross the Jordan. If Buchanan did, he would no longer be allowed on TV or get his writings published in the mainstream.

        The South was right and Germany was right. Your people have been on the wrong side for more than a century – and your own lands are now invaded and your people are being dispossessed. Will you not awaken even now?

        The easily provoked line is silly. I could say the same about you anytime I don’t like what you say. It’s just your version of political correctness. We are here to argue about issues.

  148. Sticks-of-TNT November 19, 2015 at 11:59 am #

    Once more unto the breach dear friends…(see my earlier 4:52 am post)

    STEP #1 – DEFINE THE PROBLEM:
    The world has over 1.4 billion Muslims. The rapid growth of the fundamentalist segment poses serious problems. While I question the premise that Islam is a “peaceful religion,” I concede the overwhelming majority do not have a terrorist mindset. However, if only one percent of the world’s Muslims accept the uncompromising theology of Islamic fundamentalism, and ten percent of that one percent decide to commit themselves to a radical agenda, we are looking at a one million strong recruitment pool for groups such as al-Qaeda, ISIS and the dozen or more other Islamic terrorist organizations.

    DISCUSSION:
    There are plenty of radical causes in our crazy world. However, when adherents are a million strong, and not only willing to die for their cause in the sense exhibited by traditional volunteer combatants, but to attack with the absolute certainty of death exhibited by the suicide bomber, then the degree of commitment has been taken to an exponentially higher level. It’s like a pig and a chicken discussing a breakfast of ham & eggs. The pig says to the chicken, “For you it’s a contribution, for me, it’s a COMMITMENT!”

    Sticks-of-TNT
    (Discussion to be continued, but it’s 12 Noon & time for the No Agenda podcast!)

  149. FincaInTheMountains November 19, 2015 at 12:07 pm #

    Blood begets blood: Teutonic experience of spreading “European Values”

    In those days, in the historical consciousness was yet neither the West nor the East and West was not in geography on the left, and the East – on the right. Barbaric arrogance considering mythical West as a carrier of specific European “advanced” values wherever their greedy colonialist view is directed was not yet born.

    But what was born already was a thirst for subordination of others, different, alien. And those who do not comply, considered worthy of indiscriminate destruction.

    And not the least, the great Christian Byzantine Empire was looted and begun its destruction not by the hands of mingled nomads, but by the crusaders, who managed to assemble a mob at the service of the cause of Christ. It is important to remember.

    To assist the wounded German knights of the Third Crusade monks from Bremen and Lübeck, near the Syrian fortress of Acre on November 19, 1190 created a field hospital. This hospital, over time, turned into Fratrum Theutonicorum ecclesiae S. Mariae Hiersolymitanae, in Russian historiography known as the Teutonic Order.

    The history of the Order as two drops of water similar to the history of other orders of chivalry: they are all designed to promote and maintain a “Christian European values” in the lands of the Middle East. Namely, to guarded pilgrims, treat knights and kill “infidels.”

    Order was different from the other by one curious detail: the Order in its title bore the word «teutonicus» (German), clearly indicating the ethnic composition of the Knights.

    Like other knightly orders, the Teutons were squeezed out of Palestine by the “infidels”, and it had to return to Europe. First, the Order settled in Hungary, where it spread “true faith” among the Polovtsian. The Polish Prince Konrad I Mazowiecki had invited the Order to the north-east of Europe. And in 1226 the German Emperor Frederick II authorized the transfer of the Order to the Baltic countries for the war against the Prussian pagans. From that moment, the pressure on East Europeans against the Balts and Slavs was headed by vanguard knights, the carriers of “true Christian values” under the direction of German managers.

    Having strengthened and putting under its influence the Livonian Order and the Order of the Sword, the Teutons have expanded their influence directly to the border of Russian Novgorod and Pskov. Attempts to bring “European values” on Russian soil have ended in April 1242, at Peipsi.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_on_the_Ice

    As a result, all of its colonialist fervor of the Order has focused on Lithuania.

    This expansion continued until 1410, when almost the entire military elite of the Order was wiped out at Grunwald (Tannenberg). It should be noted that due to resistance from the Smolensk land regiments that managed to hold back the onslaught of the Knights of the Order, and eventually dealt complete defeat to the army of the Teutonic Order.

    Nevertheless, the Order, though much weakened, continued to exist as long as the ideas of the Reformation were not brought in by the last Grand Master of the Order – Albrecht of Brandenburg. In 1525 he resigns and declares Prussia – duchy and himself – Grand Duke of Prussia. Thus, Prussia became the first Protestant state in Europe.

    The Duchy of Prussia in 1701 became the Kingdom of Prussia, which, in turn, became the nucleus for uniting the German lands. In 1871, after the victory over France, it was the King of Prussia Wilhelm I Gogentsoller who declared himself Emperor of the German Reich (Second Reich or the German people). Hitler will create the Third Reich in 1933. The Nazis declared themselves “spiritual successor” of the Order, armed with his doctrine of “Drang nach Osten”. History repeated itself: European “knights” under the direction of German managers have started a new “crusade” into the East. At the time, another attempt to force planting “European values” on Russian soil ended May 9, 1945 in Berlin.

    http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2015492.html

  150. FincaInTheMountains November 19, 2015 at 12:21 pm #

    “STEP #1 – DEFINE THE PROBLEM” — TNT

    Ok, I’ll define the problem for you: US, as a Nation, consume about 5 times more than it produce, and part of your elite wants to keep doing that by plundering the rest of the world through corrupt dollar financial system.

    The rest of the world has some objections.

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  151. Q. Shtik November 19, 2015 at 12:30 pm #

    When is his birthday? – Janos

    ===============

    Buck and Janos,

    I turn 75 this Saturday, 11/21/15.

    • malthuss November 19, 2015 at 1:47 pm #

      So the ‘not bad for an 85’ was a dig?

    • Janos Skorenzy November 20, 2015 at 1:36 am #

      You’re only as young as you feel. How is the Pyramid coming? And the bucket list?

      • malthuss November 20, 2015 at 2:13 am #

        Did ya see the new barbie ad ???
        ———————- –the boy looks like a sex change, pre op.

        BRH, get yrself over to you tube and find the new ad.

        ‘so fierce’ [LISPED]

        Video: Feminine-Sounding Little Boy Stars In Barbie Doll …
        http://www.weaselzippers.us/240141-feminine-sounding-boy-stars-in-barbie-d...
        3 days ago – The new Moschino Barbie is a huge hit (currently sold-out!), and its commercial is breaking boundaries by featuring a young boy in it. …. This is why they’re drugging up little boys ————————————————————-

  152. John Howard November 19, 2015 at 2:03 pm #

    So Q, you didn’t answer. Do you think we should be teaching kids that boys and girls have the same right and potential to be mothers or fathers, based on which they feel they want to be?

    Do you think we should leave uterus transplants into men legal until someone does it, or even after that? I wasn’t clear what your objection that it hasn’t been announced yet was getting on at.

  153. MisterDarling November 19, 2015 at 2:39 pm #

    @ Sauerkraut & Co.:

    “Since that is a very high human cost, some would say unacceptably high, that is reason enough to stop doing what we are doing. . . His point about two primitive tribes is only to put to rest the silly argument that Aggression as Usual has served us well enough in the past. It is now terminally obsolete.”-s.

    I used the example of Risk (as it is calculated for the sake of updating creating and updating Risk Matrices) to illustrate the level of risk to all of us (‘ie., ‘the world’) today in comparison with every time prior to the advent of the atomic bomb and associated mass-horrors.

    That was the point of Scenario 1 & 2. You understood where I was going with it, but don’t expect that to be acknowledged by the ‘person’ you replied to. That doesn’t seem to a feature of their existence.

    Moving forward; Is the world ‘safer’ now than ever? Hmmm, why don’t we ask the 60-Million + refugees fleeing for their lives around the world?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/18/world/unhcr-refugees-most-in-history/index.html

    [part 1 of 2]

    • MisterDarling November 19, 2015 at 6:47 pm #

      EDITS: 1) “for the sake of [DELETED] creating and updating”… 2) “doesn’t seem to BE a feature”

  154. MisterDarling November 19, 2015 at 2:41 pm #

    @ Sauerkraut & Co.:

    Ooops! Here it is from another source:

    http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/06/21/3451340/refugees-displaced-record/

    … Mit interesting bar graph displaying the distribution of ‘the fled’.

    Cheers!

    [2 of 2]

  155. MisterDarling November 19, 2015 at 2:43 pm #

    Your tax-dollars at work;

    “the House passed H.R. 3189, aka Fed Oversight Reform and Modernization Act.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr3189

    The bill opens the Federal Reserve up to congressional scrutiny, stripping away the secrecy it has operated under for the past century… “In other words, everything that the banks that are direct and indirect stakeholders in the Fed would fight to the death to prevent.”-ZH.

    “Now think about this: A private bank cartel CREATED by Congress doesn’t want Congress to authorize the GAO to audit them.”-R. Havenstein.

    Naturally, Mr. Obama wants to veto it. He knows who he reports to.

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    • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 3:18 pm #

      That sound Anti-Semitic, like something I’d say. Can you prove you are Non Anti-Semitic? What if the Fed is all owned by Jews (just accidently of course). How can you get out from under the appearance of being Anti-Semitic? If the Bankers are the Jews and you are against the Bankers, do you think you will not be accused? Even if you never even noticed or don’t care? And wouldn’t the fact and their reaction to it prove we were right all along?

  156. wpa_ccc November 19, 2015 at 3:59 pm #

    “This expansion continued until 1410, when almost the entire military elite of the Order was wiped out” –Finca

    Funny how that works. You have a powerful army, you feel safe, and then bam! It all ends. You lived by the sword, you believed in the sword, you felt invincible… and then you die by the sword.

  157. wpa_ccc November 19, 2015 at 5:28 pm #

    The refugees that have captivated so much attention in the wake of Friday’s attack are fleeing precisely the type of senseless slaughter that happened in Paris. To slam the door in their faces — to decide not to help when we know that we can help — would be a betrayal of our deepest values as Americans.

    President Obama is doing the right thing in the right way: protecting the American people even while providing refuge to some of the world’s most vulnerable people.

    Here’s are the facts, the numbers, related to Syrian refugees:

    23,092 … Syrian refugees UNHCR has referred to the U.S. Refugees Admission Program.

    7,014 … Syrians Homeland Security has interviewed since FY 2011.

    2,034 … Syrian refugees who have been admitted since FY 2011.

    0 … Syrian refugees resettled in the U.S. arrested or removed on terrorism charges.

    Zero threat. Thoroughly vetted. Net-positive contributors to the well-being of the United States.

    Republicans (and some on CFN) are crybaby cowards, whiners, and fear-mongerers who live in a fact-free complaint zone and suffer from Obama Derangement Syndrome: The acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the statements — nay — the very existence of Barack Obama.

    Cheney predicted another 9/11 withing the first six months of Obama’s presidency. It’s been more than six years with no new 9/11. Yet the whiners will whine, the complainers will complain, the haters will hate, bigots will call Muslims “vermin” and the cowards will cower in fear of Syrian refugees… ignoring the evidence of zero threat, ignoring that Islam is a religion of peace.

    • M. Bessette November 19, 2015 at 7:07 pm #

      Having the backs of Syrian refugees is laudable, but nuancing the issues at hand to put the best face on your defense is less than praiseworthy. The latest attacks should be seized as an opportunity to ask “first-order questions” (Bacevich) instead of cherry picking quotes and shutting reactionaries up as quickly as possible. In other words, opting for the emotional appeal to “our deepest values” falls flat when such “values” have never been more ambiguous.

      The caustic disaffection felt by Muslim minorities in the EU, especially France, flies in the face of the happily-ever-after narrative of assimilation. Earnest reporting, like Atran and Hamid’s article in NYRB, at least does justice to the truth: Amidst “the vast and soulless housing projects of the Paris banlieues we found surprisingly wide tolerance or support for ISIS among young people who want to be rebels with a cause—who want, as they see it, to defend the oppressed.” As they conclude, “[u]ntil we recognize the passions [ISIS’s] message is capable of stirring up among disaffected youth around the world, we risk strengthening them and contributing to the chaos that ISIS cherishes”. It should be obvious that this level of discontent can’t be palliated by placing one’s hope in third-rate democratic ideals.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2015 at 9:02 pm #

        First Female Jihadi in Europe blew herself up. Her last words? “He’s not my boyfriend! He’s not my boyfriend!” – just like any dumb cunt anywhere in the world. She was probably chewing gum too – Ozone’s soul mate.

        They are legion. Real life zombies. The Dumb Cunt Candidate of choice? Hillary Clinton.

        • M. Bessette November 20, 2015 at 8:04 am #

          Thanks for the wake-up call JS. I’ll be sure to think twice before venturing down this sewer hole again.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 20, 2015 at 2:26 pm #

            Read your Alinsky: mockery is gold. Gold. We should be mocking these people to scorn constantly as the dirty savages they are. But your kind lavish respect on them and contempt on your fellow Whites. So is it any wonder they become as arrogant as the day is long?

        • Q. Shtik November 20, 2015 at 6:29 pm #

          just like any dumb cunt anywhere in the world.- Janos

          ===============

          Janos, I’m appalled. You don’t generally use such foul language (and your misogyny is showing).

        • Q. Shtik November 20, 2015 at 6:37 pm #

          A possible take on it was that she wanted people to know that he is not her boyfriend because they are cousins (maybe 2nd cousins)… at least I read about cousins somewhere on-line.

  158. FincaInTheMountains November 19, 2015 at 6:00 pm #

    Russian Foreign Ministry: Paris strikes on Syrian oil infrastructure are not justified by self-defense

    Moscow cannot support the bombings because they were carried out without the consent of the legal Syrian government in Damascus. French strikes against Syrian oil infrastructure are not justified from the point of view of self-defense, said foreign ministry spokesman Ilya Rogachev.

    “After the start of operations of our aerospace forces and the successful actions of the Syrian army on the ground, the French decided to strike at targets in Syria, citing the right to self-defense in accordance with Art. 51 of the UN Charter. We cannot support such action primarily due to the fact that they are made without the consent of the Syrian government, “- said Rogachev, in an interview with “Kommersant “.

    “If the first blows were inflicted on the terrorist training camps in Syria and as a result French citizens being trained in terrorist camps were killed, the situation was still possible to present as self-defense. Yes, if, after receiving training, they returned to France, would constitute a threat to the security (terrorist attacks in Paris on November 13 confirmed the practical validity of this approach). However, the bombing of the oil infrastructure appears to be for quite different reasons and in no way justified in terms of self-defense “, – he said.

    “I suspect that the French partners are acting in view of the inevitable successful offensive of the Syrian army and the imminent return of oil fields, oil production capacity under the control of the Syrian government. Since Bashar al-Assad is at the same priority as ISIS for them, such attacks are detrimental for both. Notice that French do not bomb similar targets in Iraq, “- he said.

    http://ria.ru/syria/20151120/1324636454.html

    Mutual love in the “newly created anti-terrorist coalition” ended so abruptly? What a surprise, given that Hollande was installed as French President as a result of successful “Nigerian maid” operation against Strauss Kahn by New York PD.

  159. MisterDarling November 19, 2015 at 6:18 pm #

    Good News!

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/11/19/mexicans-returning-home-migration-shift-united-states/76013230/

    The Tide Turns… 😉

    Quote: “In coming years, he said, the number of Mexicans may increase again if the U.S. economy continues to improve.”

    *Assuming* it improves, of course… I’m posting this to illustrate the manifold & manifest stupidity of importing more people into a nation that lacks enough jobs to keep itinerant illegal immigrant day-laborers busy.

    W T F are these nitwits thinking? Oh, never mind. They aren’t, are they?

    😉

  160. Pucker November 19, 2015 at 6:19 pm #

    I once found a good book in Chinese in China discussing Marxist dialectical thinking: Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis, as the progression of social forces. The upshot of this for the Maoists was constant purges of new antithetical social forces emerging in society to preserve the revolution. For others, it would mean willfully creating antithetical contradictions in the society to move things along. Perhaps we’re seeing such willful planning in open immigration policies, particularly of Muslims?

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  161. MisterDarling November 19, 2015 at 6:20 pm #

    Captagon!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/11/19/the-tiny-pill-fueling-syrias-war-and-turning-fighters-into-super-human-soldiers/?tid=pm_pop_b

    “It’s What’s For Dinner!”

    (In Syria)

    Cheers!

  162. FincaInTheMountains November 19, 2015 at 6:53 pm #

    Russia is installing S-400 air-defense systems in Syria.

    During the Vietnam war between 1966 and 1972, the grandfather of S-400 – S75 SAM – shot down 2,200 American planes.

    According to military statistics of that time, for each destroyed by enemy fire S-75 installation, 40 American planes were destroyed.

    It’s What’s For Dinner!

    • MisterDarling November 20, 2015 at 2:26 am #

      Hello FitM,

      The S-400 is a game-changer that reshapes the Syrian battle-space by offering capabilities far beyond the venerable S-75 ‘Dvina’ system (which shot down an American U-2 early in its career).

      With an S-400 fire-control net fully operational the Syrian government and their allies will be able to lock on and target incoming air traffic in all directions for hundreds of miles – meaning that Iraqi, Lebanese, Israeli, Jordanian &Turkish airspaces are now potential kill-zones… And that’s going to change a lot of behavior.

  163. Q. Shtik November 19, 2015 at 7:58 pm #

    Do you think we should leave uterus transplants into men legal until someone does it, or even after that? – John Howard

    ===============

    Since it is a complete and total non-issue to anyone but yourself and nothing more than a red herring to disguise your disgust that a couple of queers might be sharing the same sack and performing God knows what sexual perversions with each other, my answer would be YES.

    • John Howard November 19, 2015 at 11:32 pm #

      But that’s totally stupid, since banning male pregnancy has absolutely no effect on and nothing to do with anything people do in the sack. People could still be gay dummy.

  164. wpa_ccc November 19, 2015 at 8:13 pm #

    “Captagon!“ It’s What’s For Dinner!” (In Syria) Cheers!” –Mr. Darling

    ===============

    “Medicating Our Troops Into Oblivion”: Prescription Drugs Said To Be Endangering U.S. Soldiers”

    “The violent tendencies of some mentally traumatized soldiers and veterans cannot be written off as an aberration, said Dr. Peter Breggin, a psychiatrist and author who’s written extensively about the potential dangers of the use of psychotropic drugs to treat mental illness among servicemen and servicewomen. Breggin contends such episodes are the result of what he describes as a “massive prescription drug epidemic” that encompasses the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs, in which tens of thousands of soldiers and veterans returning from traumatic tours of duty ingest drugs – in some cases multiple varieties – that can have significant side effects, including intensifying feelings of rage.

    The unprecedented use of prescription drugs by soldiers and veterans began during the second Gulf War and continues unabated today, Breggin said, adding, “The combination of increasing prescribing of such drugs during and after military service has led to violence and suicide and in many cases to chronic mental disability while being treated at the VA. This becomes a disability from which they often can’t recover because of multiple psychiatric drugs.”

    Breggin, author of the 2008 book “Medication Madness: The Role of Psychiatry Drugs in Cases of Violence, Suicide and Crime,” told IBTimes that the intensive use of prescription medications came about through the influence of the pharmaceutical industry over the military and VA. Soon after the start of the second Gulf War, Breggin said, “we saw a sea change in the prescribing of these drugs to our troops. This cannot be accounted for by anything other than military decisions at the very top that were certainly influenced by the pharmaceutical industry, which markets from the top down, then the drugs flow to millions.”
    …..
    American soldiers in combat zones did not take psychotropic medications prior to the Iraq War, but by the time of the 2007 surge more than 20,000 deployed troops were taking them. According to Nextgov, a June 2010 internal report by the DOD’s Pharmacoeconomic Center said 213,972, or 20 percent of the 1.1 million active-duty troops surveyed, were taking some form of psychotropic drug — antidepressants, antipsychotics, sedative hypnotics or other controlled substances. The prescription-drug trend has likewise grown as military and VA doctors responded to the waves of troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.”

  165. Florida Power November 19, 2015 at 8:25 pm #

    The ultimate DUH moment in all of this ISIS hoopla:

    Zero Hedge finally asks Who is brokering ISIS oil to the world?

    This question is major, as every Western nation knows who it is. Reality has just been turned inside out.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/most-important-question-about-isis-nobody-asking

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    • MisterDarling November 20, 2015 at 2:11 am #

      Hello FL-Power,

      Thanks for sharing the ZH article, I liked it myself. It asked the right question and provides an answer that points people in the right direction (much to the chagrin of a few people).

      The only issue I had with it was the numbers: It’s been *awhile* since crude oil was “$93” per barrel in the open market. Demand keeps dropping. It’s at $40/barrel right now so you have to discount your black-market crude a lot lower to move it… SO, how much money is Daesh making from it? I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that they’re a lot more dependent on the “40” countries covertly funding them than any of their nationals wants to admit.

      That’s the funniest thing about Daesh; when you follow the money to figure out how to unplug them you wind up in our own back-yard very quickly.

      Cheers!

  166. Pucker November 19, 2015 at 10:59 pm #

    When Dorothy landed in Oz and killed the Wicked Witch of the East and snatched the Ruby Slippers, she fucked everything up. Because of Dorothy the Shia and Sunni turned on each other in Munchkin Land and everything went all to Hell.

  167. trypillian November 19, 2015 at 11:04 pm #

    It is most amusing that JHK likes Putin. The despot actually is the godfather of a mafia state; his personal booty is estimated at $40 billion as verified by the CIA; he has built a palace ie Versailles near Sochi; there is a veneer of prosperity in Moscow because of oil, but the average net worth of Russians is under $800., the average net worth of Indians, the subcontinent ones is about $1000., as published by the UN. The only institutions the Little Guy is interested in are foreign banks, and his financial proxies hiding his debauchery. His grand theft of portions of neighboring countries [ of which there is no historical basis unless genocide of Tartars throughout the 20th century and the famine of the early 1930’s murdering 10 million Ukrainians is a seen as a reasonable means of plunder and pillage ] and susequent murderous rampage is abject terrorism.

    Russia is a totalitarian state whether you like or not. It is sad your friend is bad Vlad; but I’m glad you’ve been had. LoL

    • FincaInTheMountains November 20, 2015 at 5:35 am #

      Putin, the Russian Tsar, a proud holder of a lousy stash of 40 billion “evergreen” US dollars – how hilarious!

  168. Pucker November 19, 2015 at 11:09 pm #

    Women! No wonder the Wizard of Oz wanted to “inflate his balloon” and ejaculate outta there!

  169. wpa_ccc November 19, 2015 at 11:33 pm #

    The average daily cost of the campaign against ISIS is $9.9 million, now over $4 Billion has been spent on military response. But when it comes to the military we don’t demand accountability or effectiveness. We just throw more money at the military. Even though we should not even be there. Reagan created the mujahideen in the 80s, W created ISIS when he disbanded the Iraqi army. We have done enough damage by destabilizing the whole region. We should get out. There are 5 million men under arms in the region to deal with ISIS.

    We can’t rebuilid our own infrastructure, but we always find the money to bomb other people’s infrastructure. And what is the result of the US decision to respond to ISIS militarily?

    CIA Director John Brennan has admitted that the Islamic State terror group has grown by around 4,400%. Is that 44 times as large? It’s a pretty big number which shows the futility of using our military.

    ISIS has grown larger, ISIS has downed Russian aircraft, and ISIS has expanded its terrorist reach to the heart of Europe. Military action is not the best response. Our military action plays right into ISIS recruitment plans. That is why it is so easy for them to grow so rapidly.

    Military action is not working, just as it didn’t work in Vietnam, just as it didn’t work in Afghanistan. Every dead soldier has died in vain. War is just stupid. Stupid people resort to violence… on both sides… on all sides. Everybody believes their kills are legitimate.

  170. Pucker November 19, 2015 at 11:37 pm #

    Oz went all to Hell after Dorothy killed both witches and blew the Wiz’s cover. Total mayhem ensued, and Dorothy just fucked off back to Kansas with Toto.

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    • Sticks-of-TNT November 20, 2015 at 12:42 am #

      If she’s back in Kansas, I hope nsa and the boys at Ft. Meade are keeping an eye on her. That chick and her slippers can do a lot of damage. -Sticks

  171. John Howard November 19, 2015 at 11:39 pm #

    Also this one Do you think we should be teaching kids that boys and girls have the same right and potential to be mothers or fathers, based on which they feel they want to be?

  172. Q. Shtik November 19, 2015 at 11:55 pm #

    But that’s totally stupid, since banning male pregnancy has absolutely no effect on and nothing to do with anything people do in the sack. People could still be gay dummy. – John Howard

    ===============

    Do you notice that no one (but me) ever chimes in with a comment about your non-issue? That is because it is a NON-ISSUE and therefore is not on anyone’s radar.

    And the only reason I comment is that I can’t stand letting utter stupidity go unremarked upon…no offense.

    • John Howard November 20, 2015 at 12:50 am #

      I’ve never seen anyone else here make any other specific suggestions about how to improve things. You all are crazy to think we should be teaching boys they have no more right to be a father than girls do, just as much right to be a girl as they do a boy. Its totally demoralizing men leading to unemployment, drugs, suicides, destroying the country.

      JHK was alluding to gay marriage when he mentioned how Putin recognized the importance of institutions. He is apparently embarrassed to seem like a republican or prude or something, but, it matters.

      • Q. Shtik November 20, 2015 at 12:24 pm #

        I’ve never seen anyone else here make any other specific suggestions about how to improve things. – John H.

        ===============

        Nonsense! BRH and Fodase, like Trump, say we should “bomb the ‘shit’ out of ’em (ISIS). WPA says we should bring all the troops home, disband the military, let in all the refugees, give them the vote, an iPhone and a new Tesla.

        Who says nobody makes any other specific suggestions?

        • wpa_ccc November 20, 2015 at 6:40 pm #

          “WPA says we should bring all the troops home, disband the military, let in all the refugees, give them the vote, an iPhone and a new Tesla.” –Q.

          Not quite. I said give them a US passport, voter registration, a Glock 19 9mm, and firearms training… so they can defend themselves from those who are anti-Muslim bigots like fodase.

    • Sticks-of-TNT November 20, 2015 at 1:00 am #

      Q,

      Stop encouraging him. He’s obviously a hamburger shy of a Happy Meal. You are too important to the shitizens of CFN. We need you to keep your head clear so you can help us solve the big problems of the world, not to mention our spelling, punctuation, grammar and math. Don’t get sidetracked by nonsense. You’re 75 now, you need to pace yourself! -Sticks

      P.S. In case I get sidetracked tomorrow and forget, Happy Birthday coach!

      • John Howard November 20, 2015 at 1:54 am #

        Q is not encouraging me. What am I missing? Men don’t have a right to be pregnant and refusing to say so and rule it out is leading to most of the problems we are trying to solve.

        How many other people here think enabling boys to become mothers is so important? Crazy freaks.

        • Q. Shtik November 20, 2015 at 12:09 pm #

          Men don’t have a right to be pregnant and refusing to say so and rule it out is leading to most of the problems we are trying to solve. – Johnny one-note

          ==============

          Seriously? You actually see this failure to “rule it out” as “leading to most of the [world’s*] problems?

          * my word

          OK. I designate YOU to contact your Congressional Representative to get the ball rolling on this anti-male- pregnancy legislation. Wear protective pads for when they toss you out the front door.

      • Q. Shtik November 20, 2015 at 11:44 am #

        Thanks Stix.

  173. Pucker November 20, 2015 at 12:31 am #

    Because of Dorothy, they tortured the Wiz and then strung him up by his heels. Since then women in the Emerald City are no longer permitted to get an education. Yes, the Wicked Witches were bad, and the Wiz was a conman, but they kept the peace.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 20, 2015 at 2:28 pm #

      The Wizard is White. All the good guy be Black. Sho nuff.

  174. Buck Stud November 20, 2015 at 1:18 am #

    “Buck, you used to be cool, you had a sense of humor, what happened? Now its just recriminations and calling names. Did something change? ”

    Still cool and still have a sense of humor. Just ask Q; he’s still slapping his thighs over my 85 year old quip.

    But you’re no Rowdy Yates that for sure BRH. When Rowdy went “raw” he cracked the whip; when you go raw you’re only kidding haha. Good thing Edward ! is not around lest he throw someone out the castle window!

  175. Pucker November 20, 2015 at 1:25 am #

    These are the people that my government was giving money and weapons to—“Full Retard”.

    “What is Islamic State?
    IS is a notoriously violent Islamist group which controls large parts of Syria and Iraq. It has declared its territory a caliphate – a state governed in accordance with Islamic law – under its leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
    What does it want?
    IS demands allegiance from all Muslims, rejects national borders and seeks to expand its territory. It follows its own extreme version of Sunni Islam and regards non-believers as deserving of death.
    How strong is IS?
    IS projects a powerful image, partly through propaganda and sheer brutality, and is the world’s richest insurgent group. It has about 30,000 fighters but is facing daily bombing by a US-led multi-national coalition, which has vowed to destroy it.”